Miliband gives Labour's election campaign in Southampton a final push (From Daily Echo)

The result tomorrow will decide whether the City of Southampton thrives or declines. Following Milliband would be like walking off a cliff...............
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George4th wrote:
The result tomorrow will decide whether the City of Southampton thrives or declines. Following Milliband would be like walking off a cliff...............

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I could not agree more, a leap of death

Is it really going to help labour's cause in Southampton by wheeling out the buffoon that is the rich and privileged ed miliband ?

COME ON YOU REDS!!!!
And I dont mean the saints. Get rid of the Liars, Fiddlers and I'm Alright Jack's.

Old Cllr Smith is getting very nervous.
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In todays Echo the three main parties offer there plans/asperations to the voters of Southampton.
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Smith states his case in three lines ..... Sea Museum, Investment at the top of the city ....... Then the other 90% slagging off Labour and Cllr Williams.
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Cllr Williams slags of the Tory led coalition in a few lines then the other 90% is about the City and its way forward with new ideas.
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Times up Cllr Smith ..... you've had the limelight and abused it ... time to move over and start to get this City moving together as ONE .... NOT the "them and us" typical Tory syndrome

Get them conservative drips out

There is no need for either Miliband to campaign in Southampton. Royston Smith's record in the City and David Cameron's at Westminster are enough to convince any aware person that Labour is the only sensible way to vote.

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Old Cllr Smith is getting very nervous. . In todays Echo the three main parties offer there plans/asperations to the voters of Southampton. . Smith states his case in three lines ..... Sea Museum, Investment at the top of the city ....... Then the other 90% slagging off Labour and Cllr Williams. . Cllr Williams slags of the Tory led coalition in a few lines then the other 90% is about the City and its way forward with new ideas. . Times up Cllr Smith ..... you've had the limelight and abused it ... time to move over and start to get this City moving together as ONE .... NOT the "them and us" typical Tory syndrome

So says the paid employee of Southampton labour party.

ohmywell wrote:
COME ON YOU REDS!!!!
And I dont mean the saints. Get rid of the Liars, Fiddlers and I'm Alright Jack's.

"Get rid of the Liars, Fiddlers and I'm Alright Jack's."
Oh I see, you mean the last Labour Government whose mainstream ministers became multimillionaires with their BIG Investment Portfolios built on the back of the Property Bubble that they created?!! Funny how they managed to retain ALL their money after the Property Bubble burst! Along with the burst Credit Bubble and their outrageous government overspending they left you and I in the proverbial Doo Dah!! The likes of Blair, Mandelson, Millband, Prescott, Browne et al languish in wealth that only a first prize Lottery win could bring to you and I.

To let Labour in would be a total disaster for Southampton. Just as we are seeing improvements to the City Labour are going to come in and start demanding I pay higher taxes so it can pay it's bin men 50k a year because that’s what they all think they are worth. Unfortunately there are a lot more stupid people out there than there are responsible, intelligent and respectfully so it's a hard thought battle. Fortunately most of these Labour/Union types can’t tie their own shoe laces so hopefully won’t be able to walk to the polling stations. Rather Tories than Labour any day.

Nothing will change, they will promise the earth, get elected and then slink back to their offices and continue to fiddle expenses, talk **** and do nothing. Look at the last 5 decades of lost opportunity to Make Southampton a Premier World Class Destination.

At least the Sainst are doing their bit , but councillors forget it they do sweet FA.

I work at Taunton's and I have to admit he came across very well. He was friendly, open and passionate and certainly invigorated the apathetic student body. One of his main messages was encouraging them to vote, not just for Labour but to vote at all! Given that the majority of my students do not even know it is a local election tomorrow raising awareness can only be a positive thing! He may be well spoken but he certainly demonstrated more understanding of our students than a tory could! As for the comment above by the Salv, in terms of Education and NHS the Tories are only causing DAMAGE!

I'd like to see wholesale changes in Southampton, not just councillors but the executives employed at SCC also.

These are the people who make most of the decisions and are protected in their 'public sector' bubble.

The average person can see waste in the council services, why can't they?

anyone who votes labour is economically illiterate.

senseofsouthampton wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Old Cllr Smith is getting very nervous. . In todays Echo the three main parties offer there plans/asperations to the voters of Southampton. . Smith states his case in three lines ..... Sea Museum, Investment at the top of the city ....... Then the other 90% slagging off Labour and Cllr Williams. . Cllr Williams slags of the Tory led coalition in a few lines then the other 90% is about the City and its way forward with new ideas. . Times up Cllr Smith ..... you've had the limelight and abused it ... time to move over and start to get this City moving together as ONE .... NOT the "them and us" typical Tory syndrome

So says the paid employee of Southampton labour party.

Have you been paid off from the RAPC.
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Once again your contribution is pretty pi** poor.
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But of course that is the most anyone could expect from benefit scroungers like yourself

MGRA wrote:
anyone who votes labour is economically illiterate.

Bit of a sweeping statement, who decided you knew best then?

MGRA wrote:
anyone who votes labour is economically illiterate.

Well MiGRAne that really is a sweeping statement from you. Mind you a fraction above your usual abuse

Cheer up folks! wrote:
I work at Taunton's and I have to admit he came across very well. He was friendly, open and passionate and certainly invigorated the apathetic student body. One of his main messages was encouraging them to vote, not just for Labour but to vote at all! Given that the majority of my students do not even know it is a local election tomorrow raising awareness can only be a positive thing! He may be well spoken but he certainly demonstrated more understanding of our students than a tory could! As for the comment above by the Salv, in terms of Education and NHS the Tories are only causing DAMAGE!

Please explain how they are causing DAMAGE?

George4th wrote:

ohmywell wrote:
COME ON YOU REDS!!!!
And I dont mean the saints. Get rid of the Liars, Fiddlers and I'm Alright Jack's.

"Get rid of the Liars, Fiddlers and I'm Alright Jack's."
Oh I see, you mean the last Labour Government whose mainstream ministers became multimillionaires with their BIG Investment Portfolios built on the back of the Property Bubble that they created?!! Funny how they managed to retain ALL their money after the Property Bubble burst! Along with the burst Credit Bubble and their outrageous government overspending they left you and I in the proverbial Doo Dah!! The likes of Blair, Mandelson, Millband, Prescott, Browne et al languish in wealth that only a first prize Lottery win could bring to you and I.

IF they did, it was not at the expense of Pensioners who are currently being screwed to fund a tax-cut for the well-off.

The writing was on the wall when they cut their heating cost, and did Sweet FA to redress the balance when fuel costs went through the roof.

The abbreviation of Conservative is CON, and boy, do they know how to Con the public!

Lone Ranger. wrote:

senseofsouthampton wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote: Old Cllr Smith is getting very nervous. . In todays Echo the three main parties offer there plans/asperations to the voters of Southampton. . Smith states his case in three lines ..... Sea Museum, Investment at the top of the city ....... Then the other 90% slagging off Labour and Cllr Williams. . Cllr Williams slags of the Tory led coalition in a few lines then the other 90% is about the City and its way forward with new ideas. . Times up Cllr Smith ..... you've had the limelight and abused it ... time to move over and start to get this City moving together as ONE .... NOT the "them and us" typical Tory syndrome

So says the paid employee of Southampton labour party.

Have you been paid off from the RAPC. . Once again your contribution is pretty pi** poor. . But of course that is the most anyone could expect from benefit scroungers like yourself

oh dear that's not very nice.
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Interestingly one of your councillors knocked my door the other day. A nice enough fellow who was naturally disappointed when I listed the numerous reasons I could not vote labour.
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I told him that one reason was that one of his colleagues (you) spends a great deal of time on the daily echo website being rude to people. He said he thought he knew who you were and that he would have a word. That message has clearly failed to get through.

senseofsouthampton wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

senseofsouthampton wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote: Old Cllr Smith is getting very nervous. . In todays Echo the three main parties offer there plans/asperations to the voters of Southampton. . Smith states his case in three lines ..... Sea Museum, Investment at the top of the city ....... Then the other 90% slagging off Labour and Cllr Williams. . Cllr Williams slags of the Tory led coalition in a few lines then the other 90% is about the City and its way forward with new ideas. . Times up Cllr Smith ..... you've had the limelight and abused it ... time to move over and start to get this City moving together as ONE .... NOT the "them and us" typical Tory syndrome

So says the paid employee of Southampton labour party.

Have you been paid off from the RAPC. . Once again your contribution is pretty pi** poor. . But of course that is the most anyone could expect from benefit scroungers like yourself

oh dear that's not very nice.
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Interestingly one of your councillors knocked my door the other day. A nice enough fellow who was naturally disappointed when I listed the numerous reasons I could not vote labour.
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I told him that one reason was that one of his colleagues (you) spends a great deal of time on the daily echo website being rude to people. He said he thought he knew who you were and that he would have a word. That message has clearly failed to get through.

Oh dear ... thats not very nice either.
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The difference is .... my assessment of you is accurate and you are one million miles away.
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Still it made me chuckle

Socialism is like monogamy. It’s fair, but dull and demanding.

City in Red please it's an insult more debt more job losses true blue is better colour

Poor old Roy Smith must be feeling quite abandoned. Ed Miliband's been here three times and other members of the shadow cabinet have also come to Southampton to campaign.

I can possibly accept that Cameron has better things to do than come and campaign for Roy (although he does have time to go riding with with Rebekah Brooks) but other leading Tories have certainly been thin on the ground. Cameron didn't even send Clegg and he clearly has nothing better to do.

Are Central Office paying Roy back for his failure at the general election or just his failure in running Southampton?

Lone Ranger. wrote:

MGRA wrote:
anyone who votes labour is economically illiterate.

Well MiGRAne that really is a sweeping statement from you. Mind you a fraction above your usual abuse

Have you read their campaign pledges for Southampton ? Thought not.... good luck to the lemmings of southampton. What better shot-in-the-arm for the city than a labour council to spend all the money that does not exist and operate at an unsustainable service level.... Still Eastleigh has its fair share of idiots, after all they elected Huhne.... must be something in the water

The Salv wrote:
To let Labour in would be a total disaster for Southampton. Just as we are seeing improvements to the City Labour are going to come in and start demanding I pay higher taxes so it can pay it's bin men 50k a year because that’s what they all think they are worth. Unfortunately there are a lot more stupid people out there than there are responsible, intelligent and respectfully so it's a hard thought battle. Fortunately most of these Labour/Union types can’t tie their own shoe laces so hopefully won’t be able to walk to the polling stations. Rather Tories than Labour any day.

I've been walking round Southampton for several months in the Labour cause without tripping over my own laces. Your comments are insulting and show why the Tories deserve to be kicked out tomorrow.

If all you and your friends can offer is insults and doom and gloom you deserve the pasting about to be inflicted on you.

Voters tomorrow should remember this.
It was the efforts of a few far seeing Victorian reformists and workers that were prepared to suffer for their beliefs that brought about the formation of the Labour Party and the Trade Union Movements but for them, small boys would still be sent up chimneys, children as young as six would be employed in the coal mines and factories, workers would live in abject poverty and those who couldn't work, would be thrown in to the workhouse to rot and die.
Any that dared to raise their voice against such travesty would be jailed or deported.
Not a load of codswallop as George IV will no doubt deride but the actual history of this Country.
I do not know of ANY Tory legislation or initiative, in history, that was primarily designed to improve the health, wealth, education and quality of life of the working man.
The standard of living we take for granted today was won by the Labour Party and the Trade Union movement.

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Old Cllr Smith is getting very nervous.
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In todays Echo the three main parties offer there plans/asperations to the voters of Southampton.
.
Smith states his case in three lines ..... Sea Museum, Investment at the top of the city ....... Then the other 90% slagging off Labour and Cllr Williams.
.
Cllr Williams slags of the Tory led coalition in a few lines then the other 90% is about the City and its way forward with new ideas.
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Times up Cllr Smith ..... you've had the limelight and abused it ... time to move over and start to get this City moving together as ONE .... NOT the "them and us" typical Tory syndrome

Thanks for summarising the main news, now I won’t have to waste my 45p on local rag

sottondave wrote:

The Salv wrote:
To let Labour in would be a total disaster for Southampton. Just as we are seeing improvements to the City Labour are going to come in and start demanding I pay higher taxes so it can pay it's bin men 50k a year because that’s what they all think they are worth. Unfortunately there are a lot more stupid people out there than there are responsible, intelligent and respectfully so it's a hard thought battle. Fortunately most of these Labour/Union types can’t tie their own shoe laces so hopefully won’t be able to walk to the polling stations. Rather Tories than Labour any day.

I've been walking round Southampton for several months in the Labour cause without tripping over my own laces. Your comments are insulting and show why the Tories deserve to be kicked out tomorrow.

If all you and your friends can offer is insults and doom and gloom you deserve the pasting about to be inflicted on you.

"walking round Southampton for several months"
So, you will have noticed the changes and the improvements to our City? The good citizens of the City of Southampton can see the improvements and they very much like what they see. Most of them can remember the neglect and decay of our City by the previous councils and are therefore joyful and proud of the new vibrancy that emanates from our City. They are happy that there is a strategy and plans in place for the continued success of the modernisation of the City of Southampton. They do not want to go back to dark ages of the previous 25 years of misrule (mostly by Labour!)

But look at the fat cats such as unite leader and unison leader on bags of money they relish and you pay for it what do they know in their Ivory towers wake up and smell the coffee Tory Rules!!!!

I am 99% convinced George Osborne gifted this year’s local election to NuLabour. Because he may have considered that Tory policies are much safer in the hands of better educated Williams than his own party’s amateurish Cllr. Smith
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Obviously Posh Boy George’s analysis would have been based on 13years of Blair and Brown’s administration, which while helping the super rich and kissing the back side of Murdoch picked upon working classes more ruthlessly than at that time many Tories could have possibly dared. Which eventually helped real brats of Thatcher to gain power and gave them the confidence to start showing real killer fangs
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It will be nice to see the back of Tories tomorrow, but what will be the real difference for ordinary people?
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Hardly any, as only a small guy with Jag will be replaced with a tall man with much better taste in cars, but policies are likely to remain virtually same
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Some of us may not like the Tories, but at least they do not pretend that they are not “nasty”
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Sadly the same is not be the case with local closet conservative mob that worships Milliband, who himself was part of last government which not only created crisis but also broke promises, even made in manifesto. So taking whatever Milliband or Williams are saying seriously will only leave to massive disappointments
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That is why I will be voting for TUSC, they are saying what they mean. Honesty may not be popular with pro establishment media, which only promotes the established three right of Thatcher parties, so without any meaningful coverage TUSC may not win many wards but voting for them will save honest people from hypocrisy.

ohmywell wrote:
COME ON YOU REDS!!!!
And I dont mean the saints. Get rid of the Liars, Fiddlers and I'm Alright Jack's.

And then we would have nobody, i think there is an N.V.Q in how to fiddle the books when in politics.

good-gosh wrote:
Socialism is like monogamy. It’s fair, but dull and demanding.

Nice one i like that.

George4th wrote:

sottondave wrote:

The Salv wrote: To let Labour in would be a total disaster for Southampton. Just as we are seeing improvements to the City Labour are going to come in and start demanding I pay higher taxes so it can pay it's bin men 50k a year because that’s what they all think they are worth. Unfortunately there are a lot more stupid people out there than there are responsible, intelligent and respectfully so it's a hard thought battle. Fortunately most of these Labour/Union types can’t tie their own shoe laces so hopefully won’t be able to walk to the polling stations. Rather Tories than Labour any day.

I've been walking round Southampton for several months in the Labour cause without tripping over my own laces. Your comments are insulting and show why the Tories deserve to be kicked out tomorrow. If all you and your friends can offer is insults and doom and gloom you deserve the pasting about to be inflicted on you.

"walking round Southampton for several months" So, you will have noticed the changes and the improvements to our City? The good citizens of the City of Southampton can see the improvements and they very much like what they see. Most of them can remember the neglect and decay of our City by the previous councils and are therefore joyful and proud of the new vibrancy that emanates from our City. They are happy that there is a strategy and plans in place for the continued success of the modernisation of the City of Southampton. They do not want to go back to dark ages of the previous 25 years of misrule (mostly by Labour!)

Care to make a prediction for tomorrow.

sottondave wrote:

George4th wrote:

sottondave wrote:

The Salv wrote: To let Labour in would be a total disaster for Southampton. Just as we are seeing improvements to the City Labour are going to come in and start demanding I pay higher taxes so it can pay it's bin men 50k a year because that’s what they all think they are worth. Unfortunately there are a lot more stupid people out there than there are responsible, intelligent and respectfully so it's a hard thought battle. Fortunately most of these Labour/Union types can’t tie their own shoe laces so hopefully won’t be able to walk to the polling stations. Rather Tories than Labour any day.

I've been walking round Southampton for several months in the Labour cause without tripping over my own laces. Your comments are insulting and show why the Tories deserve to be kicked out tomorrow. If all you and your friends can offer is insults and doom and gloom you deserve the pasting about to be inflicted on you.

"walking round Southampton for several months" So, you will have noticed the changes and the improvements to our City? The good citizens of the City of Southampton can see the improvements and they very much like what they see. Most of them can remember the neglect and decay of our City by the previous councils and are therefore joyful and proud of the new vibrancy that emanates from our City. They are happy that there is a strategy and plans in place for the continued success of the modernisation of the City of Southampton. They do not want to go back to dark ages of the previous 25 years of misrule (mostly by Labour!)

Care to make a prediction for tomorrow.

Cloudy with rain at times.

labour will win because deep down the fools of southampton want a bancrupt country and to live in poverty for 40 years...

George4th wrote:

sottondave wrote:

George4th wrote:

sottondave wrote:

The Salv wrote: To let Labour in would be a total disaster for Southampton. Just as we are seeing improvements to the City Labour are going to come in and start demanding I pay higher taxes so it can pay it's bin men 50k a year because that’s what they all think they are worth. Unfortunately there are a lot more stupid people out there than there are responsible, intelligent and respectfully so it's a hard thought battle. Fortunately most of these Labour/Union types can’t tie their own shoe laces so hopefully won’t be able to walk to the polling stations. Rather Tories than Labour any day.

I've been walking round Southampton for several months in the Labour cause without tripping over my own laces. Your comments are insulting and show why the Tories deserve to be kicked out tomorrow. If all you and your friends can offer is insults and doom and gloom you deserve the pasting about to be inflicted on you.

"walking round Southampton for several months" So, you will have noticed the changes and the improvements to our City? The good citizens of the City of Southampton can see the improvements and they very much like what they see. Most of them can remember the neglect and decay of our City by the previous councils and are therefore joyful and proud of the new vibrancy that emanates from our City. They are happy that there is a strategy and plans in place for the continued success of the modernisation of the City of Southampton. They do not want to go back to dark ages of the previous 25 years of misrule (mostly by Labour!)

Care to make a prediction for tomorrow.

Cloudy with rain at times.

There will be more Tory tears than the rain water even on a rainy day

The Salv wrote:

Cheer up folks! wrote: I work at Taunton's and I have to admit he came across very well. He was friendly, open and passionate and certainly invigorated the apathetic student body. One of his main messages was encouraging them to vote, not just for Labour but to vote at all! Given that the majority of my students do not even know it is a local election tomorrow raising awareness can only be a positive thing! He may be well spoken but he certainly demonstrated more understanding of our students than a tory could! As for the comment above by the Salv, in terms of Education and NHS the Tories are only causing DAMAGE!

Please explain how they are causing DAMAGE?

Notice no response...

TEBOURBA wrote:
Voters tomorrow should remember this.
It was the efforts of a few far seeing Victorian reformists and workers that were prepared to suffer for their beliefs that brought about the formation of the Labour Party and the Trade Union Movements but for them, small boys would still be sent up chimneys, children as young as six would be employed in the coal mines and factories, workers would live in abject poverty and those who couldn't work, would be thrown in to the workhouse to rot and die.
Any that dared to raise their voice against such travesty would be jailed or deported.
Not a load of codswallop as George IV will no doubt deride but the actual history of this Country.
I do not know of ANY Tory legislation or initiative, in history, that was primarily designed to improve the health, wealth, education and quality of life of the working man.
The standard of living we take for granted today was won by the Labour Party and the Trade Union movement.

How deluded are you it was the unions with a bit of help from Thatcher that killed this once great country, all of our precious industry our coal mines / steel the list is endless killed of by strikes and never ending pay demands. I am not anti union but they got far to powerful, and the unions use their membership to influence government like they are doing now with the tanker drivers, a few militants and a few sheep and bingo you have a strike and like the present government they couldn't even organise that properly. What we need is a totally different system of government from the top down.How can it be right that people in local government for instance are earning more than our Prime minister surely that is the top public sector job and as such should be the highest paid.

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

George4th wrote:

sottondave wrote:

George4th wrote:

sottondave wrote:

The Salv wrote: To let Labour in would be a total disaster for Southampton. Just as we are seeing improvements to the City Labour are going to come in and start demanding I pay higher taxes so it can pay it's bin men 50k a year because that’s what they all think they are worth. Unfortunately there are a lot more stupid people out there than there are responsible, intelligent and respectfully so it's a hard thought battle. Fortunately most of these Labour/Union types can’t tie their own shoe laces so hopefully won’t be able to walk to the polling stations. Rather Tories than Labour any day.

I've been walking round Southampton for several months in the Labour cause without tripping over my own laces. Your comments are insulting and show why the Tories deserve to be kicked out tomorrow. If all you and your friends can offer is insults and doom and gloom you deserve the pasting about to be inflicted on you.

"walking round Southampton for several months" So, you will have noticed the changes and the improvements to our City? The good citizens of the City of Southampton can see the improvements and they very much like what they see. Most of them can remember the neglect and decay of our City by the previous councils and are therefore joyful and proud of the new vibrancy that emanates from our City. They are happy that there is a strategy and plans in place for the continued success of the modernisation of the City of Southampton. They do not want to go back to dark ages of the previous 25 years of misrule (mostly by Labour!)

Care to make a prediction for tomorrow.

Cloudy with rain at times.

There will be more Tory tears than the rain water even on a rainy day

:-)
Paramjit, that made me smile! Shakespeare couldn't have been more eloquent!

The top areas for unemployment are dominated by Labour - these areas of high unemployment tend to vote Labour. The irony is that it is Tory areas that create work so you would think that these same people would vote for the Tories but they don't! They blindly follow Labour!
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Poorer area’s tend to vote labour and richer area’s vote Tory - this has happened since universal suffrage - what is interesting is what has 80 years of a Labour MP got places like the Rhondda. Nothing!
They blindly follow Labour!
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I'm afraid that many in Southampton have this same blind spot and believe that Labour will cure their ills - Labour won't cure their ills. Life is simple, in order to spend money you first have to make money - it is a concept that Labour is unable to grasp, either at Government level or Local Council level...............

Blindly voting Labour will gain you nothing but another wasteful Labour council - more of the same poor governance that dogged our City for 25 years prior to this current council. Just remember, you reap what you sow and then you have to live with it!

George4th wrote:
The top areas for unemployment are dominated by Labour - these areas of high unemployment tend to vote Labour. The irony is that it is Tory areas that create work so you would think that these same people would vote for the Tories but they don't! They blindly follow Labour!
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Poorer area’s tend to vote labour and richer area’s vote Tory - this has happened since universal suffrage - what is interesting is what has 80 years of a Labour MP got places like the Rhondda. Nothing!
They blindly follow Labour!
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I'm afraid that many in Southampton have this same blind spot and believe that Labour will cure their ills - Labour won't cure their ills. Life is simple, in order to spend money you first have to make money - it is a concept that Labour is unable to grasp, either at Government level or Local Council level...............


Blindly voting Labour will gain you nothing but another wasteful Labour council - more of the same poor governance that dogged our City for 25 years prior to this current council. Just remember, you reap what you sow and then you have to live with it!

perfectly put... but thats labour supporters all over, they think the world owes them a living, money grows on trees and being asked to earn a proper wage for job well done is an exuse to go on strike...

The Salv wrote:

The Salv wrote:

Cheer up folks! wrote: I work at Taunton's and I have to admit he came across very well. He was friendly, open and passionate and certainly invigorated the apathetic student body. One of his main messages was encouraging them to vote, not just for Labour but to vote at all! Given that the majority of my students do not even know it is a local election tomorrow raising awareness can only be a positive thing! He may be well spoken but he certainly demonstrated more understanding of our students than a tory could! As for the comment above by the Salv, in terms of Education and NHS the Tories are only causing DAMAGE!

Please explain how they are causing DAMAGE?

Notice no response...

Sorry "The Salv" given that I am a teacher there are times when I can't sit here and troll, unlike you! The huge cuts the Tory government have made to sixth form colleges has had a detrimental impact on inner city colleges like ours. We cannot thrive on a middle class intake and the measures used to ascertain how to fund colleges is simply diabolical! The increasing movement towards privatisation of both education and the NHS is what I find most abhorrent about the Tory government. The tripe you spout about bin men demanding 50K is absolutely ridiculous!

George4th wrote:
The top areas for unemployment are dominated by Labour - these areas of high unemployment tend to vote Labour. The irony is that it is Tory areas that create work so you would think that these same people would vote for the Tories but they don't! They blindly follow Labour!
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Poorer area’s tend to vote labour and richer area’s vote Tory - this has happened since universal suffrage - what is interesting is what has 80 years of a Labour MP got places like the Rhondda. Nothing!
They blindly follow Labour!
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I'm afraid that many in Southampton have this same blind spot and believe that Labour will cure their ills - Labour won't cure their ills. Life is simple, in order to spend money you first have to make money - it is a concept that Labour is unable to grasp, either at Government level or Local Council level...............


Blindly voting Labour will gain you nothing but another wasteful Labour council - more of the same poor governance that dogged our City for 25 years prior to this current council. Just remember, you reap what you sow and then you have to live with it!

The Labour Government during term in office did more for the deprived areas in Southampton than any other Tory Government in history, not because poorer people vote Labour because they actually gave a sh1t

How do you explain why the gap between the haves and the have nots grew WIDER and WIDER under a Labour government?

Cheer up folks! wrote:

The Salv wrote:

The Salv wrote:

Cheer up folks! wrote: I work at Taunton's and I have to admit he came across very well. He was friendly, open and passionate and certainly invigorated the apathetic student body. One of his main messages was encouraging them to vote, not just for Labour but to vote at all! Given that the majority of my students do not even know it is a local election tomorrow raising awareness can only be a positive thing! He may be well spoken but he certainly demonstrated more understanding of our students than a tory could! As for the comment above by the Salv, in terms of Education and NHS the Tories are only causing DAMAGE!

Please explain how they are causing DAMAGE?

Notice no response...

Sorry "The Salv" given that I am a teacher there are times when I can't sit here and troll, unlike you! The huge cuts the Tory government have made to sixth form colleges has had a detrimental impact on inner city colleges like ours. We cannot thrive on a middle class intake and the measures used to ascertain how to fund colleges is simply diabolical! The increasing movement towards privatisation of both education and the NHS is what I find most abhorrent about the Tory government. The tripe you spout about bin men demanding 50K is absolutely ridiculous!

You still dont explain what you mean. You say huge cuts but why were these cuts made and is it effecting the 6th form college you speak of? You havent gone into any detail other than to say it just does. Colleges and the NHS are not privatised. If you want to see damage to Education then look no further that the Labour Government, they made exams easier and easier to pass to give the false impression that education was improving but more and more school leavers are leaving schools without the basic grasp of English and Maths, as for privatising Education it was Labour that turned the University Degree into a business model creating degree's in as many subjects as possible so that more and more people could go to University for the laugh and Social life whilst they introduce the Top up Fee's and creating Student debts of + 20k a head.

Oh and if you want to read more about bin men earning over 50k just check Birmingham Council.

The Salv wrote:
Oh and if you want to read more about bin men earning over 50k just check Birmingham Council.

And I'm just about to say...

SNIP, this is another lie Salv from your lying mouth.

"I find the quote '' Cllr Mullaney said: 'What's going on is disgraceful. What we are talking about at the moment is basically an overtime scam.'' a disgrace in its self. As Cllr Mullaney is an elected member I think only right that before he makes a comment like this in public he should be fully aware of the facts. I am one of these disgraceful binmen and i can tell Cllr Mullaney that to earn 45k a year let alone to take that home is the sort of dream i have when buying my weekly lottery ticket. It is true that if a round is cleared within the hours allocated we are allowed to go home but and its a big BUT if it is not cleared you are contracted to stay until it is and if that takes you over your contracted hours they hey thats just hard luck and you wont be getting any overtime to clear it up. What i find really bad is that Cllr mullaney can not even be bothered to find out the full facts so i ask 1 question to him, I know how i earn my money, what is this city paying you for
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Just back after delivering 1000 Tory leaflets in Coxford. Good response lots of voters understand the Tories have done a great job in Southampton over the last 4 years.I shall be up at 5am tomorrow doing my bit, I want value for my taxes that is why I vote Tory.I also want lasting jobs for my kids, that's why I vote Tory.

MGRA wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

MGRA wrote:
anyone who votes labour is economically illiterate.

Well MiGRAne that really is a sweeping statement from you. Mind you a fraction above your usual abuse

Have you read their campaign pledges for Southampton ? Thought not.... good luck to the lemmings of southampton. What better shot-in-the-arm for the city than a labour council to spend all the money that does not exist and operate at an unsustainable service level.... Still Eastleigh has its fair share of idiots, after all they elected Huhne.... must be something in the water

Not very bright for an "alleged" Economist are we MiGRAne.
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Little rants ...... a few bits of abuse ( as usual ) .... But i didnt know that you came from Eastleigh.

georgeIV, the reason the gap between the rich and poor is because here in the UK and since 'globalisation' worldwide, the dominant ideology is of a finance capital led regime of debt based money creation favoured to those with substantial wealth built up under Thatcher, this path was continued by Blair as part of his 'deal' with the establishment, the 'middle way' as defined by Giddens. The current crop of ministers are almost identical their lifestyle and worldview, they are neo-liberalised privately educated career politicians. I pray for the day when this country rouses to overthrow the Westminster system with all its Medieval pagantry, Victorian morality and Oxbridge dominated elite. I URGE ALL VOTERS WHO ARE JUST SICK OF THE WHOLE LOT OF IT TO GO OUT AND MAKE THE PROTEST VOTE LOUD AND CLEAR.

OHCR, Can you share your thoughts on when this country was 'great'. Not being offensive just curious as to when Britain' s golden era actually was?

The Salv wrote:

Cheer up folks! wrote:

The Salv wrote:

The Salv wrote:

Cheer up folks! wrote: I work at Taunton's and I have to admit he came across very well. He was friendly, open and passionate and certainly invigorated the apathetic student body. One of his main messages was encouraging them to vote, not just for Labour but to vote at all! Given that the majority of my students do not even know it is a local election tomorrow raising awareness can only be a positive thing! He may be well spoken but he certainly demonstrated more understanding of our students than a tory could! As for the comment above by the Salv, in terms of Education and NHS the Tories are only causing DAMAGE!

Please explain how they are causing DAMAGE?

Notice no response...

Sorry "The Salv" given that I am a teacher there are times when I can't sit here and troll, unlike you! The huge cuts the Tory government have made to sixth form colleges has had a detrimental impact on inner city colleges like ours. We cannot thrive on a middle class intake and the measures used to ascertain how to fund colleges is simply diabolical! The increasing movement towards privatisation of both education and the NHS is what I find most abhorrent about the Tory government. The tripe you spout about bin men demanding 50K is absolutely ridiculous!

You still dont explain what you mean. You say huge cuts but why were these cuts made and is it effecting the 6th form college you speak of? You havent gone into any detail other than to say it just does. Colleges and the NHS are not privatised. If you want to see damage to Education then look no further that the Labour Government, they made exams easier and easier to pass to give the false impression that education was improving but more and more school leavers are leaving schools without the basic grasp of English and Maths, as for privatising Education it was Labour that turned the University Degree into a business model creating degree's in as many subjects as possible so that more and more people could go to University for the laugh and Social life whilst they introduce the Top up Fee's and creating Student debts of + 20k a head.

Too many cuts to cover but try this link if you want it in detail http://www.unison.or
g.uk/acrobat/A12879.
pdf also please note I mentioned the threat of privatisation, I did not state it was privatised! The system currently in place for uni students is no better and I have not seen the tories offering alternatives either. An obvious cut I can tell you about is the reduction of teaching hours funded for tutorials and enrichment has been reduced from 119 hours per year to 30, this is just the tip of the iceberg! EMA has also been removed and many more of you bother to read the link I have sent.

I cannot honestly believe that people will vote for the Labour party who led this country to financial ruin.
All they do is spend,spend,spend are your memories really that short?
You complain about all the cuts but do you ever think why?Because we are still trying to pay back Labours debts now.
What do you want to do create more debt?
The Tories are doing their best to bring this country back from the dead do you really think it would be so much different if Labour were in power?
The Tories are bringing investment into Southampton which benefits me in the private sector if you dont want to be a dustman see if you can find something else that pays so well.

Ed is a little clown..leading a party of clowns..sad thing is..everyone likes the carrot and the sugar lump..not the Cod Liver Oil..they will most likely do well in these elections.

Lone Ranger. wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

MGRA wrote:
anyone who votes labour is economically illiterate.

Well MiGRAne that really is a sweeping statement from you. Mind you a fraction above your usual abuse

Have you read their campaign pledges for Southampton ? Thought not.... good luck to the lemmings of southampton. What better shot-in-the-arm for the city than a labour council to spend all the money that does not exist and operate at an unsustainable service level.... Still Eastleigh has its fair share of idiots, after all they elected Huhne.... must be something in the water

Not very bright for an "alleged" Economist are we MiGRAne.
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Little rants ...... a few bits of abuse ( as usual ) .... But i didnt know that you came from Eastleigh.

I take it you have been socialising with the pond-life socialists on here during the months I have been away actually working for a living as opposed to sponging money off the state as per the socialist ideal... well here is a thought, assuming the southampton voters are stupid enough to vote labour in their droves, lets just see how long it takes before the council is making 100s of redundancies.. I give it 9 months...

MGRA wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

MGRA wrote:
anyone who votes labour is economically illiterate.

Well MiGRAne that really is a sweeping statement from you. Mind you a fraction above your usual abuse

Have you read their campaign pledges for Southampton ? Thought not.... good luck to the lemmings of southampton. What better shot-in-the-arm for the city than a labour council to spend all the money that does not exist and operate at an unsustainable service level.... Still Eastleigh has its fair share of idiots, after all they elected Huhne.... must be something in the water

Not very bright for an "alleged" Economist are we MiGRAne.
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Little rants ...... a few bits of abuse ( as usual ) .... But i didnt know that you came from Eastleigh.

I take it you have been socialising with the pond-life socialists on here during the months I have been away actually working for a living as opposed to sponging money off the state as per the socialist ideal... well here is a thought, assuming the southampton voters are stupid enough to vote labour in their droves, lets just see how long it takes before the council is making 100s of redundancies.. I give it 9 months...

It seems if you are accepting/predicting a Labour council !!
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I didnt think that you had been away working ..... as someone said it was at Her Majesties Pleasure ..... You certainly do rub shoulders with the big guys dont you.
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Oh did you miss the pun on Eastleigh or did you choose to ignore it ??
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Still, whatever happens it will be the people that decide

Cheer up folks! wrote:

The Salv wrote:

Cheer up folks! wrote:

The Salv wrote:

The Salv wrote:

Cheer up folks! wrote: I work at Taunton's and I have to admit he came across very well. He was friendly, open and passionate and certainly invigorated the apathetic student body. One of his main messages was encouraging them to vote, not just for Labour but to vote at all! Given that the majority of my students do not even know it is a local election tomorrow raising awareness can only be a positive thing! He may be well spoken but he certainly demonstrated more understanding of our students than a tory could! As for the comment above by the Salv, in terms of Education and NHS the Tories are only causing DAMAGE!

Please explain how they are causing DAMAGE?

Notice no response...

Sorry "The Salv" given that I am a teacher there are times when I can't sit here and troll, unlike you! The huge cuts the Tory government have made to sixth form colleges has had a detrimental impact on inner city colleges like ours. We cannot thrive on a middle class intake and the measures used to ascertain how to fund colleges is simply diabolical! The increasing movement towards privatisation of both education and the NHS is what I find most abhorrent about the Tory government. The tripe you spout about bin men demanding 50K is absolutely ridiculous!

You still dont explain what you mean. You say huge cuts but why were these cuts made and is it effecting the 6th form college you speak of? You havent gone into any detail other than to say it just does. Colleges and the NHS are not privatised. If you want to see damage to Education then look no further that the Labour Government, they made exams easier and easier to pass to give the false impression that education was improving but more and more school leavers are leaving schools without the basic grasp of English and Maths, as for privatising Education it was Labour that turned the University Degree into a business model creating degree's in as many subjects as possible so that more and more people could go to University for the laugh and Social life whilst they introduce the Top up Fee's and creating Student debts of + 20k a head.

Too many cuts to cover but try this link if you want it in detail http://www.unison.or

g.uk/acrobat/A12879.

pdf also please note I mentioned the threat of privatisation, I did not state it was privatised! The system currently in place for uni students is no better and I have not seen the tories offering alternatives either. An obvious cut I can tell you about is the reduction of teaching hours funded for tutorials and enrichment has been reduced from 119 hours per year to 30, this is just the tip of the iceberg! EMA has also been removed and many more of you bother to read the link I have sent.

Www.unison.... me thinks i wont bother.

Elections, like the attractively wrapped Christmas present that promises so much, When opened the disappointment soon sets in. We end up with something we did not want, have to pay through the nose for the hidden extras. Some still believe that Santa will deliver - I doubt it very much.

Snivelling Tvvat!

Interestingly, The Governor of the Bank of England has blamed the last Labour government for the Financial Bubble that burst and that has caused so much distress in this country. He said that Labour government stripping the Bank of England in 1997 of its direct powers to regulate banks was the source of the problem.........So now we know!

The Governor of the Bank of England also stated,
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My main point was not to try to blame anyone - this was a failure of the system.
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"With the benefit of hindsight, we should have shouted from the rooftops that a system had been built in which banks were too important to fail, that banks had grown too quickly and borrowed too much.
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But David Blanchflower, a former member of the Bank of England's Monetary Policy Committee, accused Sir Mervyn of being "disingenuous"......

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"If Mervyn King had thought more regulation was important he could've done something about it. And because he didn't he must take responsibility for the fact the Bank of England missed the biggest financial crisis in a century.
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BBC business editor Robert Peston said that Sir Mervyn had blamed a range of other people.
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"He blamed the recklessness of banks; he blamed a collective 'failure of imagination' to see that banks' huge increase in lending was the mother of all dangerous bubbles waiting to burst;
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He conceded that the Bank of England might have been slow to react,
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This is most of the post from the BBC re Kings interview with R4 ........ and not too selective on its biased content as others have posted.
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Yes...so know we really know .... The banks as much to blame if not more than any Government