Hampshire County Councillor Keith House earns more than an MP

Keith House

Keith House

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HAMPSHIRE’S highest paid county councillor has a bigger pay packet than MPs, the Daily Echo can reveal.

Liberal Democrat Keith House was paid almost £67,500 by holding five public paid positions in 2011-12.

His role as Eastleigh council boss is his main job. But he is also opposition leader on the county council and sits on three other bodies.

Mr House, 47, had more paid roles or “hats” than any other Hampshire councillor, according to new figures compiled by anticouncil tax group IsItFair.

The scale of his allowances have brought fresh protests from the group outraged at the way some elected councillors are professional politicians.

But Mr House, a full-time politician, said it was for voters to decide at the ballot box if he was worth it.

He said: “In Eastleigh, I have kept council tax down, have protected services, improved facilities and followed- up on case work. In Hampshire, I have kept the administration to account.”

Payments to 78 county councillors now cost taxpayers £1.9m a year.

As well as being paid £12,000 just for being members of the county council, most claim multiple allowances for also sitting on district councils, the fire and police authorities and other bodies, including New Forest National Park Authority.

And 40 county councillors have joined the generous pension scheme enjoyed by local government staff, guaranteeing them an income based on the allowances which they are paid as councillors.

Taxpayer-funded employer contributions to their pension pots cost £120,841 – pushing the cost of their total pay and pensions over the £2m mark.

Christine Melsom, Hampshirebased founder of IsitFair, said: “Many people seem to think their councillor does this job ‘pro bono’ but that could not be further from the truth.

“It is a job and they receive a salary and many of them also get a pension.”

As boss of Eastleigh council, Cllr House was paid £28,381 in allowances and expenses and he picked up £26,216 for his role as leader of the opposition on the county c o u n - cil. He received £12,500 for sitting on the boards of the former South East England Economic Development Agency (SEEDA), and the Homes and Communities Agency (HCA) which funds new affordable housing.

Mr House also netted an estimated £4,537 as deputy chairman of a Local Government Association (LGA) committee, an umbrella group for local authorities.

The father-of-four said his work at SEEDA and HCA were ministerial appointments unrelated to being a councillor while his LGA role gave him the opportunity to argue nationally for policies that would benefit Hampshire.

Excluding expenses, these five calls on the public purse bring his total to £67,471 – more than an MP’s salary of £65,738.

Meanwhile his partner of 12 years, Louise Bloom, an Eastleigh Borough councillor, collected £14,000 as one of Cllr House’s inner circle in the Cabinet.

Conservative Sean Woodward was paid £51,083 as a backbench county councillor, leader of Fareham Borough Council and a member of Hampshire Police Authority. He also runs a healthcare company.

Fellow Tory Mel Kendal was paid £49,575 as a Cabinet member of the county council, a member of New Forest District Council and Hampshire Police Authority. He is a self-employed investment consultant.

In total, the county council alone forked out £1.4m for councillor allowances and expenses in 2011-12.

The county froze councillor allowances for the third year running to save money but has not reduced them despite cutting services and jobs.

Peter Fleming, chairman of the Local Government Association, defended allowances, saying: “Providing financial support ensures that local democracy does not become the preserve of the privileged few who can afford to give their time for free.”

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2:12pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Torchie1 says...

Is this why Comrade Southy is desperately seeking public office ?
Is this why Comrade Southy is desperately seeking public office ? Torchie1
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2:25pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Vonnie says...

I couldn't care less how much people are paid for individual parts of what they do, as long as they actually do what they are supposed to be doing, and do it properly and effectively.
I couldn't care less how much people are paid for individual parts of what they do, as long as they actually do what they are supposed to be doing, and do it properly and effectively. Vonnie
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2:26pm Thu 18 Oct 12

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
Is this why Comrade Southy is desperately seeking public office ?
Yes Torchie and many like me what to put a stop to this, and bring it to an end its jobs for the old boys club, its jobs like this is where a lot of your tax money is going to and then they have the cheek to avoid paying full amount of tax.
Royston smith sits on bodys like this and earn a fair amount, think he still the highest earner on Southampton council.
While they are still getting these very high wages and also avoid paying the right amount of tax, Public Services and Jobs are getting cut, in the end you have all these people earning theres sort of wages, but you will have no services but less well off will be still expected to pay the full amount of tax.

Oh Torchie did you read the latest IMF report.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: Is this why Comrade Southy is desperately seeking public office ?[/p][/quote]Yes Torchie and many like me what to put a stop to this, and bring it to an end its jobs for the old boys club, its jobs like this is where a lot of your tax money is going to and then they have the cheek to avoid paying full amount of tax. Royston smith sits on bodys like this and earn a fair amount, think he still the highest earner on Southampton council. While they are still getting these very high wages and also avoid paying the right amount of tax, Public Services and Jobs are getting cut, in the end you have all these people earning theres sort of wages, but you will have no services but less well off will be still expected to pay the full amount of tax. Oh Torchie did you read the latest IMF report. southy
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2:26pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Ted Rogers says...

Not accurate I'm afraid. If you include allowances paid and expenses, our local MP Steve Brine was payed in excess of £200k

Let's report like for like please.
Not accurate I'm afraid. If you include allowances paid and expenses, our local MP Steve Brine was payed in excess of £200k Let's report like for like please. Ted Rogers
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2:29pm Thu 18 Oct 12

peenut81 says...

What Peter Fleming really means '' providing (overly generous) financial support ensures that (non-existent) local democracy 'remains' the preserve of a privileged few who can afford to make their career a lifestyle choice.''
What Peter Fleming really means '' providing (overly generous) financial support ensures that (non-existent) local democracy 'remains' the preserve of a privileged few who can afford to make their career a lifestyle choice.'' peenut81
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2:33pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Is this why Comrade Southy is desperately seeking public office ?
Yes Torchie and many like me what to put a stop to this, and bring it to an end its jobs for the old boys club, its jobs like this is where a lot of your tax money is going to and then they have the cheek to avoid paying full amount of tax.
Royston smith sits on bodys like this and earn a fair amount, think he still the highest earner on Southampton council.
While they are still getting these very high wages and also avoid paying the right amount of tax, Public Services and Jobs are getting cut, in the end you have all these people earning theres sort of wages, but you will have no services but less well off will be still expected to pay the full amount of tax.

Oh Torchie did you read the latest IMF report.
Tax avoidance? Do you have any proof of this?

Or do you just mean they are not paying the amount of tax YOU want to see them paying?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: Is this why Comrade Southy is desperately seeking public office ?[/p][/quote]Yes Torchie and many like me what to put a stop to this, and bring it to an end its jobs for the old boys club, its jobs like this is where a lot of your tax money is going to and then they have the cheek to avoid paying full amount of tax. Royston smith sits on bodys like this and earn a fair amount, think he still the highest earner on Southampton council. While they are still getting these very high wages and also avoid paying the right amount of tax, Public Services and Jobs are getting cut, in the end you have all these people earning theres sort of wages, but you will have no services but less well off will be still expected to pay the full amount of tax. Oh Torchie did you read the latest IMF report.[/p][/quote]Tax avoidance? Do you have any proof of this? Or do you just mean they are not paying the amount of tax YOU want to see them paying? Shoong
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2:35pm Thu 18 Oct 12

TheJoiners says...

And they threw the poor fella who had served 42 years for this city out of his cemetary house. Hang your heads in shame you vile parasites.

Id vote for Southy, Nick Chaffey Parmi anyone but these scumbags
And they threw the poor fella who had served 42 years for this city out of his cemetary house. Hang your heads in shame you vile parasites. Id vote for Southy, Nick Chaffey Parmi anyone but these scumbags TheJoiners
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2:45pm Thu 18 Oct 12

On the inside says...

Tax Payers Alliance = Tax dodging, beneift scroungers. Where else does the state pension come from!
Tax Payers Alliance = Tax dodging, beneift scroungers. Where else does the state pension come from! On the inside
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4:20pm Thu 18 Oct 12

phil maccavity says...

Vonnie wrote:
I couldn't care less how much people are paid for individual parts of what they do, as long as they actually do what they are supposed to be doing, and do it properly and effectively.
Vonnie
Have to agree with you.
In view of the responsibilities involved I think £60k in todays world is reasonable provided the people involved earn their keep
I am sure Southy is a fine fellow but, based on his rather vague, inaccurate and dogmatic posts on here, I wouldn't want him involved in running local services even on a pro bono basis
[quote][p][bold]Vonnie[/bold] wrote: I couldn't care less how much people are paid for individual parts of what they do, as long as they actually do what they are supposed to be doing, and do it properly and effectively.[/p][/quote]Vonnie Have to agree with you. In view of the responsibilities involved I think £60k in todays world is reasonable provided the people involved earn their keep I am sure Southy is a fine fellow but, based on his rather vague, inaccurate and dogmatic posts on here, I wouldn't want him involved in running local services even on a pro bono basis phil maccavity
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4:38pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Roy S says...

I'd vote for him, his heart is in the right place unlike many others whose heart is in their wallet.
I'd vote for him, his heart is in the right place unlike many others whose heart is in their wallet. Roy S
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5:17pm Thu 18 Oct 12

originalsfc says...

£67.5k a year plus expenses, plus freebies, plus backhanders.........
.............and to think hes never had a proper job.

Clever bloke.
£67.5k a year plus expenses, plus freebies, plus backhanders......... .............and to think hes never had a proper job. Clever bloke. originalsfc
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5:22pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Shoong says...

Roy S wrote:
I'd vote for him, his heart is in the right place unlike many others whose heart is in their wallet.
so you must have your brain in your ar$e...
[quote][p][bold]Roy S[/bold] wrote: I'd vote for him, his heart is in the right place unlike many others whose heart is in their wallet.[/p][/quote]so you must have your brain in your ar$e... Shoong
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6:43pm Thu 18 Oct 12

southy says...

phil maccavity wrote:
Vonnie wrote:
I couldn't care less how much people are paid for individual parts of what they do, as long as they actually do what they are supposed to be doing, and do it properly and effectively.
Vonnie
Have to agree with you.
In view of the responsibilities involved I think £60k in todays world is reasonable provided the people involved earn their keep
I am sure Southy is a fine fellow but, based on his rather vague, inaccurate and dogmatic posts on here, I wouldn't want him involved in running local services even on a pro bono basis
Well Phil you have all ways been one for the private sector to take public money. and not let it go where its ment to go on public services.
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vonnie[/bold] wrote: I couldn't care less how much people are paid for individual parts of what they do, as long as they actually do what they are supposed to be doing, and do it properly and effectively.[/p][/quote]Vonnie Have to agree with you. In view of the responsibilities involved I think £60k in todays world is reasonable provided the people involved earn their keep I am sure Southy is a fine fellow but, based on his rather vague, inaccurate and dogmatic posts on here, I wouldn't want him involved in running local services even on a pro bono basis[/p][/quote]Well Phil you have all ways been one for the private sector to take public money. and not let it go where its ment to go on public services. southy
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6:50pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Torchie1 says...

Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Is this why Comrade Southy is desperately seeking public office ?
Yes Torchie and many like me what to put a stop to this, and bring it to an end its jobs for the old boys club, its jobs like this is where a lot of your tax money is going to and then they have the cheek to avoid paying full amount of tax.
Royston smith sits on bodys like this and earn a fair amount, think he still the highest earner on Southampton council.
While they are still getting these very high wages and also avoid paying the right amount of tax, Public Services and Jobs are getting cut, in the end you have all these people earning theres sort of wages, but you will have no services but less well off will be still expected to pay the full amount of tax.

Oh Torchie did you read the latest IMF report.
Tax avoidance? Do you have any proof of this?

Or do you just mean they are not paying the amount of tax YOU want to see them paying?
I couldn't find any mention of tax avoidance in the Echo article but I expect he read it in the 'library edition'. Poor old Southy conveniently forgetting that whether you don't pay tax on income or avoid tax by getting your rolling tobacco 'under the counter', it still amounts to a loss to the Exchequer. One prostitute may charge £5.00 and another £500.00 but they are still both prostitutes.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: Is this why Comrade Southy is desperately seeking public office ?[/p][/quote]Yes Torchie and many like me what to put a stop to this, and bring it to an end its jobs for the old boys club, its jobs like this is where a lot of your tax money is going to and then they have the cheek to avoid paying full amount of tax. Royston smith sits on bodys like this and earn a fair amount, think he still the highest earner on Southampton council. While they are still getting these very high wages and also avoid paying the right amount of tax, Public Services and Jobs are getting cut, in the end you have all these people earning theres sort of wages, but you will have no services but less well off will be still expected to pay the full amount of tax. Oh Torchie did you read the latest IMF report.[/p][/quote]Tax avoidance? Do you have any proof of this? Or do you just mean they are not paying the amount of tax YOU want to see them paying?[/p][/quote]I couldn't find any mention of tax avoidance in the Echo article but I expect he read it in the 'library edition'. Poor old Southy conveniently forgetting that whether you don't pay tax on income or avoid tax by getting your rolling tobacco 'under the counter', it still amounts to a loss to the Exchequer. One prostitute may charge £5.00 and another £500.00 but they are still both prostitutes. Torchie1
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7:01pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Is this why Comrade Southy is desperately seeking public office ?
Yes Torchie and many like me what to put a stop to this, and bring it to an end its jobs for the old boys club, its jobs like this is where a lot of your tax money is going to and then they have the cheek to avoid paying full amount of tax.
Royston smith sits on bodys like this and earn a fair amount, think he still the highest earner on Southampton council.
While they are still getting these very high wages and also avoid paying the right amount of tax, Public Services and Jobs are getting cut, in the end you have all these people earning theres sort of wages, but you will have no services but less well off will be still expected to pay the full amount of tax.

Oh Torchie did you read the latest IMF report.
Tell me of the 76 pages you couldn't understand and I'll see if I can help.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: Is this why Comrade Southy is desperately seeking public office ?[/p][/quote]Yes Torchie and many like me what to put a stop to this, and bring it to an end its jobs for the old boys club, its jobs like this is where a lot of your tax money is going to and then they have the cheek to avoid paying full amount of tax. Royston smith sits on bodys like this and earn a fair amount, think he still the highest earner on Southampton council. While they are still getting these very high wages and also avoid paying the right amount of tax, Public Services and Jobs are getting cut, in the end you have all these people earning theres sort of wages, but you will have no services but less well off will be still expected to pay the full amount of tax. Oh Torchie did you read the latest IMF report.[/p][/quote]Tell me of the 76 pages you couldn't understand and I'll see if I can help. Torchie1
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7:04pm Thu 18 Oct 12

honour says...

I will not vote for any of the so-called three major parties they are all greedy, they don’t care what any of us think
I appeal to everyone use your vote.at every occasion only then they just might listen if huge numbers lose their seats.
I will not vote for any of the so-called three major parties they are all greedy, they don’t care what any of us think I appeal to everyone use your vote.at every occasion only then they just might listen if huge numbers lose their seats. honour
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7:29pm Thu 18 Oct 12

stuartjebbitt says...

Riding the gravy train - snouts in the trough
Riding the gravy train - snouts in the trough stuartjebbitt
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7:46pm Thu 18 Oct 12

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Is this why Comrade Southy is desperately seeking public office ?
Yes Torchie and many like me what to put a stop to this, and bring it to an end its jobs for the old boys club, its jobs like this is where a lot of your tax money is going to and then they have the cheek to avoid paying full amount of tax.
Royston smith sits on bodys like this and earn a fair amount, think he still the highest earner on Southampton council.
While they are still getting these very high wages and also avoid paying the right amount of tax, Public Services and Jobs are getting cut, in the end you have all these people earning theres sort of wages, but you will have no services but less well off will be still expected to pay the full amount of tax.

Oh Torchie did you read the latest IMF report.
Tax avoidance? Do you have any proof of this?

Or do you just mean they are not paying the amount of tax YOU want to see them paying?
I couldn't find any mention of tax avoidance in the Echo article but I expect he read it in the 'library edition'. Poor old Southy conveniently forgetting that whether you don't pay tax on income or avoid tax by getting your rolling tobacco 'under the counter', it still amounts to a loss to the Exchequer. One prostitute may charge £5.00 and another £500.00 but they are still both prostitutes.
your not likely to find it in the echo, try looking lower down on the TPA long list.

If you think for one moment that I buy my tobacco under the counter, then you are accusing Kendle Ave Shops off buying illegal tobacco.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: Is this why Comrade Southy is desperately seeking public office ?[/p][/quote]Yes Torchie and many like me what to put a stop to this, and bring it to an end its jobs for the old boys club, its jobs like this is where a lot of your tax money is going to and then they have the cheek to avoid paying full amount of tax. Royston smith sits on bodys like this and earn a fair amount, think he still the highest earner on Southampton council. While they are still getting these very high wages and also avoid paying the right amount of tax, Public Services and Jobs are getting cut, in the end you have all these people earning theres sort of wages, but you will have no services but less well off will be still expected to pay the full amount of tax. Oh Torchie did you read the latest IMF report.[/p][/quote]Tax avoidance? Do you have any proof of this? Or do you just mean they are not paying the amount of tax YOU want to see them paying?[/p][/quote]I couldn't find any mention of tax avoidance in the Echo article but I expect he read it in the 'library edition'. Poor old Southy conveniently forgetting that whether you don't pay tax on income or avoid tax by getting your rolling tobacco 'under the counter', it still amounts to a loss to the Exchequer. One prostitute may charge £5.00 and another £500.00 but they are still both prostitutes.[/p][/quote]your not likely to find it in the echo, try looking lower down on the TPA long list. If you think for one moment that I buy my tobacco under the counter, then you are accusing Kendle Ave Shops off buying illegal tobacco. southy
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7:48pm Thu 18 Oct 12

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Is this why Comrade Southy is desperately seeking public office ?
Yes Torchie and many like me what to put a stop to this, and bring it to an end its jobs for the old boys club, its jobs like this is where a lot of your tax money is going to and then they have the cheek to avoid paying full amount of tax.
Royston smith sits on bodys like this and earn a fair amount, think he still the highest earner on Southampton council.
While they are still getting these very high wages and also avoid paying the right amount of tax, Public Services and Jobs are getting cut, in the end you have all these people earning theres sort of wages, but you will have no services but less well off will be still expected to pay the full amount of tax.

Oh Torchie did you read the latest IMF report.
Tell me of the 76 pages you couldn't understand and I'll see if I can help.
The IMF has just reported that it too has got its figures wrong. It’s now worked out that every £1 cut reduces growth between 90p and £1.70.

This is the part of the report, and what we on the left have been saying for a very long time.
Making cuts is killing the economy.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: Is this why Comrade Southy is desperately seeking public office ?[/p][/quote]Yes Torchie and many like me what to put a stop to this, and bring it to an end its jobs for the old boys club, its jobs like this is where a lot of your tax money is going to and then they have the cheek to avoid paying full amount of tax. Royston smith sits on bodys like this and earn a fair amount, think he still the highest earner on Southampton council. While they are still getting these very high wages and also avoid paying the right amount of tax, Public Services and Jobs are getting cut, in the end you have all these people earning theres sort of wages, but you will have no services but less well off will be still expected to pay the full amount of tax. Oh Torchie did you read the latest IMF report.[/p][/quote]Tell me of the 76 pages you couldn't understand and I'll see if I can help.[/p][/quote]The IMF has just reported that it too has got its figures wrong. It’s now worked out that every £1 cut reduces growth between 90p and £1.70. This is the part of the report, and what we on the left have been saying for a very long time. Making cuts is killing the economy. southy
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7:50pm Thu 18 Oct 12

southy says...

honour wrote:
I will not vote for any of the so-called three major parties they are all greedy, they don’t care what any of us think
I appeal to everyone use your vote.at every occasion only then they just might listen if huge numbers lose their seats.
This could happen easy if we can get those that are not registered to vote to register and vote and also get those have not voted to vote, there is more than enough to white wash all 3 main partys.
[quote][p][bold]honour[/bold] wrote: I will not vote for any of the so-called three major parties they are all greedy, they don’t care what any of us think I appeal to everyone use your vote.at every occasion only then they just might listen if huge numbers lose their seats.[/p][/quote]This could happen easy if we can get those that are not registered to vote to register and vote and also get those have not voted to vote, there is more than enough to white wash all 3 main partys. southy
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7:52pm Thu 18 Oct 12

southy says...

stuartjebbitt wrote:
Riding the gravy train - snouts in the trough
yes well the Right wing are very well known to do this, think of them selfs and no one else
[quote][p][bold]stuartjebbitt[/bold] wrote: Riding the gravy train - snouts in the trough[/p][/quote]yes well the Right wing are very well known to do this, think of them selfs and no one else southy
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12:00am Fri 19 Oct 12

The Watcher says...

I read in the paper version that the last leader of the Council (Cllr Royston Smith) was pulling in £50,000 from his public appointments.

Does anyone know what the current incumbent (Cllr Williams) is pulling in?

Have to say I was staggered by some of the sums involved in this report and would love to see the Taxpayers Alliance delve deeper in to some of these astronomical sums.
I read in the paper version that the last leader of the Council (Cllr Royston Smith) was pulling in £50,000 from his public appointments. Does anyone know what the current incumbent (Cllr Williams) is pulling in? Have to say I was staggered by some of the sums involved in this report and would love to see the Taxpayers Alliance delve deeper in to some of these astronomical sums. The Watcher
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12:22am Fri 19 Oct 12

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Is this why Comrade Southy is desperately seeking public office ?
Yes Torchie and many like me what to put a stop to this, and bring it to an end its jobs for the old boys club, its jobs like this is where a lot of your tax money is going to and then they have the cheek to avoid paying full amount of tax.
Royston smith sits on bodys like this and earn a fair amount, think he still the highest earner on Southampton council.
While they are still getting these very high wages and also avoid paying the right amount of tax, Public Services and Jobs are getting cut, in the end you have all these people earning theres sort of wages, but you will have no services but less well off will be still expected to pay the full amount of tax.

Oh Torchie did you read the latest IMF report.
Tell me of the 76 pages you couldn't understand and I'll see if I can help.
The IMF has just reported that it too has got its figures wrong. It’s now worked out that every £1 cut reduces growth between 90p and £1.70.

This is the part of the report, and what we on the left have been saying for a very long time.
Making cuts is killing the economy.
The 'left' saw problems before the IMF identified them and still no-one will vote for you. Life can be so unfair.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: Is this why Comrade Southy is desperately seeking public office ?[/p][/quote]Yes Torchie and many like me what to put a stop to this, and bring it to an end its jobs for the old boys club, its jobs like this is where a lot of your tax money is going to and then they have the cheek to avoid paying full amount of tax. Royston smith sits on bodys like this and earn a fair amount, think he still the highest earner on Southampton council. While they are still getting these very high wages and also avoid paying the right amount of tax, Public Services and Jobs are getting cut, in the end you have all these people earning theres sort of wages, but you will have no services but less well off will be still expected to pay the full amount of tax. Oh Torchie did you read the latest IMF report.[/p][/quote]Tell me of the 76 pages you couldn't understand and I'll see if I can help.[/p][/quote]The IMF has just reported that it too has got its figures wrong. It’s now worked out that every £1 cut reduces growth between 90p and £1.70. This is the part of the report, and what we on the left have been saying for a very long time. Making cuts is killing the economy.[/p][/quote]The 'left' saw problems before the IMF identified them and still no-one will vote for you. Life can be so unfair. Torchie1
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10:12am Fri 19 Oct 12

FoysCornerBoy says...

The Watcher wrote:
I read in the paper version that the last leader of the Council (Cllr Royston Smith) was pulling in £50,000 from his public appointments.

Does anyone know what the current incumbent (Cllr Williams) is pulling in?

Have to say I was staggered by some of the sums involved in this report and would love to see the Taxpayers Alliance delve deeper in to some of these astronomical sums.
I'm a tax payer but I don't know anything about this 'Tax Payers Alliance' , who its accountable to or where it gets its money from.

I have no problem about elected representatives getting paid - so long as it is an open and transparent process and there is some performance-related element.

I think that a Council leader who works full time on the job should be paid at the same rate as an MP - provided that this was their only source of income.

I object to those politicians who draw the maximum allowances and expenses due them from the public purse while raking in vast sums of money from various directorships, shareholdings and properties that they own. Maybe this is something that the Tax Payers Alliance could focus on.
[quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: I read in the paper version that the last leader of the Council (Cllr Royston Smith) was pulling in £50,000 from his public appointments. Does anyone know what the current incumbent (Cllr Williams) is pulling in? Have to say I was staggered by some of the sums involved in this report and would love to see the Taxpayers Alliance delve deeper in to some of these astronomical sums.[/p][/quote]I'm a tax payer but I don't know anything about this 'Tax Payers Alliance' , who its accountable to or where it gets its money from. I have no problem about elected representatives getting paid - so long as it is an open and transparent process and there is some performance-related element. I think that a Council leader who works full time on the job should be paid at the same rate as an MP - provided that this was their only source of income. I object to those politicians who draw the maximum allowances and expenses due them from the public purse while raking in vast sums of money from various directorships, shareholdings and properties that they own. Maybe this is something that the Tax Payers Alliance could focus on. FoysCornerBoy
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10:19am Fri 19 Oct 12

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
stuartjebbitt wrote:
Riding the gravy train - snouts in the trough
yes well the Right wing are very well known to do this, think of them selfs and no one else
Utter hypocrisy and propaganda. The figures are all there to see regarding Union masters and the benefits they get from the mugs they promise to represent.

I suppose calling tube strikes during the Olympics is considerate then despite already getting a sweetener?

The hypocrisy doesn't end.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stuartjebbitt[/bold] wrote: Riding the gravy train - snouts in the trough[/p][/quote]yes well the Right wing are very well known to do this, think of them selfs and no one else[/p][/quote]Utter hypocrisy and propaganda. The figures are all there to see regarding Union masters and the benefits they get from the mugs they promise to represent. I suppose calling tube strikes during the Olympics is considerate then despite already getting a sweetener? The hypocrisy doesn't end. Shoong
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