Southampton MP Alan Whitehead backs Ed Miliband in Labour leadership contest

Daily Echo: MP Alan Whitehead MP Alan Whitehead

SOUTHAMPTON Test MP Alan Whitehead is backing former Energy Secretary Ed Miliband for the leadership of the Labour Party.

Dr Whitehead, below left, said Mr Miliband, right, was the best person to bring voters back to the party in the south.

Mr Miliband, who declared his candidacy at the weekend, is considered more radical on environmental and social justice issues than his brother, former Foreign Secretary David, who is also standing. Other candidates are expected to include former schools secretary Ed Balls and backbencher Jon Cruddas.

Dr Whitehead, who is among 14 MPs to have thrown their weight behind Ed Miliband’s campaign, told the Daily Echo: “Ed has a more radical view of how the labour movement takes its message forward. It is a long-standing challenge for Labour to make its message resonate in the south of England and Ed represents the way I think the Labour Party should go in future.”

The MP suggested Labour had failed to address voters' concerns about housing, transport, environment, immigration and the labour force, all of which would have to be tackled to win back support.

Southampton Itchen MP and former Communities Secretary John Denham has ruled out standing for the Labour leadership – but vowed to get stuck in to the debate over the future direction of the party.

The MP has said he knows who he wants to succeed Gordon Brown as leader – but will wait before revealing his preferred candidate so he can speak more freely about what Labour needs to do to rebuild its support in the south.

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10:39am Tue 18 May 10

southy says...

How about letting the unions rank and file, decide who should lead the labour party, and not the mp's.
How about letting the unions rank and file, decide who should lead the labour party, and not the mp's. southy
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10:44am Tue 18 May 10

Lone Ranger says...

southy wrote:
How about letting the unions rank and file, decide who should lead the labour party, and not the mp's.
Southy as i undestand it the voting is between three groups. Union, MPs and the Labour membership.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: How about letting the unions rank and file, decide who should lead the labour party, and not the mp's.[/p][/quote]Southy as i undestand it the voting is between three groups. Union, MPs and the Labour membership. Lone Ranger
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11:37am Tue 18 May 10

southy says...

Lone Ranger wrote:
southy wrote:
How about letting the unions rank and file, decide who should lead the labour party, and not the mp's.
Southy as i undestand it the voting is between three groups. Union, MPs and the Labour membership.
union rank and file don,t get the count. like the way they use to, like i never got the choice to vote on when blair became leader of the labour party, or smith. and i did not vote for kinnock i went the other way, and voted for the left.
remember thatcher interfered with union rules on how they could select its leadership in the unions and selecting labour mp's and leadership.
and the labour party have very few left now, 99% of them have been kick out of the labour party.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: How about letting the unions rank and file, decide who should lead the labour party, and not the mp's.[/p][/quote]Southy as i undestand it the voting is between three groups. Union, MPs and the Labour membership.[/p][/quote]union rank and file don,t get the count. like the way they use to, like i never got the choice to vote on when blair became leader of the labour party, or smith. and i did not vote for kinnock i went the other way, and voted for the left. remember thatcher interfered with union rules on how they could select its leadership in the unions and selecting labour mp's and leadership. and the labour party have very few left now, 99% of them have been kick out of the labour party. southy
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11:55am Tue 18 May 10

Elgy says...

Loser!!!!!!!!
Loser!!!!!!!! Elgy
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12:01pm Tue 18 May 10

Adrian Smith says...

southy wrote:
Lone Ranger wrote:
southy wrote: How about letting the unions rank and file, decide who should lead the labour party, and not the mp's.
Southy as i undestand it the voting is between three groups. Union, MPs and the Labour membership.
union rank and file don,t get the count. like the way they use to, like i never got the choice to vote on when blair became leader of the labour party, or smith. and i did not vote for kinnock i went the other way, and voted for the left. remember thatcher interfered with union rules on how they could select its leadership in the unions and selecting labour mp's and leadership. and the labour party have very few left now, 99% of them have been kick out of the labour party.
If these changes Mrs T implemented were such a big deal why didn't the socialists change them during the past 13 years?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: How about letting the unions rank and file, decide who should lead the labour party, and not the mp's.[/p][/quote]Southy as i undestand it the voting is between three groups. Union, MPs and the Labour membership.[/p][/quote]union rank and file don,t get the count. like the way they use to, like i never got the choice to vote on when blair became leader of the labour party, or smith. and i did not vote for kinnock i went the other way, and voted for the left. remember thatcher interfered with union rules on how they could select its leadership in the unions and selecting labour mp's and leadership. and the labour party have very few left now, 99% of them have been kick out of the labour party.[/p][/quote]If these changes Mrs T implemented were such a big deal why didn't the socialists change them during the past 13 years? Adrian Smith
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12:18pm Tue 18 May 10

wheresthemoneygone says...

Oh no, more pompous priviledged, middle-class career politicians - let's have somone who has experienced life and has some wisdom.But then again it's only common sense, that's old fashioned and not glitzy enough.With most of those who represent the ordinary working man and woman or anybody with a hint of socialism kicked out of the party - the Labour Party has become redundant. Joins the Greens now!
Oh no, more pompous priviledged, middle-class career politicians - let's have somone who has experienced life and has some wisdom.But then again it's only common sense, that's old fashioned and not glitzy enough.With most of those who represent the ordinary working man and woman or anybody with a hint of socialism kicked out of the party - the Labour Party has become redundant. Joins the Greens now! wheresthemoneygone
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12:31pm Tue 18 May 10

southy says...

Adrian Smith wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger wrote:
southy wrote: How about letting the unions rank and file, decide who should lead the labour party, and not the mp's.
Southy as i undestand it the voting is between three groups. Union, MPs and the Labour membership.
union rank and file don,t get the count. like the way they use to, like i never got the choice to vote on when blair became leader of the labour party, or smith. and i did not vote for kinnock i went the other way, and voted for the left. remember thatcher interfered with union rules on how they could select its leadership in the unions and selecting labour mp's and leadership. and the labour party have very few left now, 99% of them have been kick out of the labour party.
If these changes Mrs T implemented were such a big deal why didn't the socialists change them during the past 13 years?
adrian there has not been 13 years years of socialism, we had 30 years of capitalism
[quote][p][bold]Adrian Smith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: How about letting the unions rank and file, decide who should lead the labour party, and not the mp's.[/p][/quote]Southy as i undestand it the voting is between three groups. Union, MPs and the Labour membership.[/p][/quote]union rank and file don,t get the count. like the way they use to, like i never got the choice to vote on when blair became leader of the labour party, or smith. and i did not vote for kinnock i went the other way, and voted for the left. remember thatcher interfered with union rules on how they could select its leadership in the unions and selecting labour mp's and leadership. and the labour party have very few left now, 99% of them have been kick out of the labour party.[/p][/quote]If these changes Mrs T implemented were such a big deal why didn't the socialists change them during the past 13 years?[/p][/quote]adrian there has not been 13 years years of socialism, we had 30 years of capitalism southy
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12:34pm Tue 18 May 10

southy says...

wheresthemoneygone wrote:
Oh no, more pompous priviledged, middle-class career politicians - let's have somone who has experienced life and has some wisdom.But then again it's only common sense, that's old fashioned and not glitzy enough.With most of those who represent the ordinary working man and woman or anybody with a hint of socialism kicked out of the party - the Labour Party has become redundant. Joins the Greens now!
agreed on the pompous middle class,
the best man to lead the labour party john mcdonnell. but he will not get a chance because of the right wing control of the labour party.
[quote][p][bold]wheresthemoneygone[/bold] wrote: Oh no, more pompous priviledged, middle-class career politicians - let's have somone who has experienced life and has some wisdom.But then again it's only common sense, that's old fashioned and not glitzy enough.With most of those who represent the ordinary working man and woman or anybody with a hint of socialism kicked out of the party - the Labour Party has become redundant. Joins the Greens now![/p][/quote]agreed on the pompous middle class, the best man to lead the labour party john mcdonnell. but he will not get a chance because of the right wing control of the labour party. southy
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1:02pm Tue 18 May 10

Cyber-Fug says...

I hear that the record is stuck again!
I hear that the record is stuck again! Cyber-Fug
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1:09pm Tue 18 May 10

Paramjit Bahia says...

Adrian Smith wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger wrote:
southy wrote: How about letting the unions rank and file, decide who should lead the labour party, and not the mp's.
Southy as i undestand it the voting is between three groups. Union, MPs and the Labour membership.
union rank and file don,t get the count. like the way they use to, like i never got the choice to vote on when blair became leader of the labour party, or smith. and i did not vote for kinnock i went the other way, and voted for the left. remember thatcher interfered with union rules on how they could select its leadership in the unions and selecting labour mp's and leadership. and the labour party have very few left now, 99% of them have been kick out of the labour party.
If these changes Mrs T implemented were such a big deal why didn't the socialists change them during the past 13 years?
Because deep down in their hearts they worship Thatcher more than even the Tories do.
[quote][p][bold]Adrian Smith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: How about letting the unions rank and file, decide who should lead the labour party, and not the mp's.[/p][/quote]Southy as i undestand it the voting is between three groups. Union, MPs and the Labour membership.[/p][/quote]union rank and file don,t get the count. like the way they use to, like i never got the choice to vote on when blair became leader of the labour party, or smith. and i did not vote for kinnock i went the other way, and voted for the left. remember thatcher interfered with union rules on how they could select its leadership in the unions and selecting labour mp's and leadership. and the labour party have very few left now, 99% of them have been kick out of the labour party.[/p][/quote]If these changes Mrs T implemented were such a big deal why didn't the socialists change them during the past 13 years?[/p][/quote]Because deep down in their hearts they worship Thatcher more than even the Tories do. Paramjit Bahia
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1:17pm Tue 18 May 10

Paramjit Bahia says...

At least Alan Whitehead has the courage to be honest about which de facto Tory he will be supporting. John Denham as usual is sitting on the fence, trying to work out which camp will be more suitable for his own future. You got to admire the man's commitment to self preservation.
At least Alan Whitehead has the courage to be honest about which de facto Tory he will be supporting. John Denham as usual is sitting on the fence, trying to work out which camp will be more suitable for his own future. You got to admire the man's commitment to self preservation. Paramjit Bahia
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1:36pm Tue 18 May 10

Spot O'Bother says...

No more overweening unions. Thank you Maggie.

sw shop-talk
No more overweening unions. Thank you Maggie. sw shop-talk Spot O'Bother
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1:40pm Tue 18 May 10

southy says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
At least Alan Whitehead has the courage to be honest about which de facto Tory he will be supporting. John Denham as usual is sitting on the fence, trying to work out which camp will be more suitable for his own future. You got to admire the man's commitment to self preservation.
very true, it would look more favourably for him, if he back mcdonnell
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: At least Alan Whitehead has the courage to be honest about which de facto Tory he will be supporting. John Denham as usual is sitting on the fence, trying to work out which camp will be more suitable for his own future. You got to admire the man's commitment to self preservation.[/p][/quote]very true, it would look more favourably for him, if he back mcdonnell southy
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3:15pm Tue 18 May 10

TEBOURBA says...

Alan Whitehead's only claim to fame whilst being a MP, is anonimity and invisibility.
I cannot recall anything of benefit that he has done for Southampton, he has never showed any mettle in going out on a limb and opposing controversial issues.
By contrast John Denham is a highly principled and respected man, his resignation in opposition to the Iraq War when Tories and Whitehead supported it, his work rate, commitment to both his Party and his constituency and his Parliamentary record are exemplary.
He woulld make a first class Leader and Prime Minister and I urge him put his name forward as a candidate.
Alan Whitehead's only claim to fame whilst being a MP, is anonimity and invisibility. I cannot recall anything of benefit that he has done for Southampton, he has never showed any mettle in going out on a limb and opposing controversial issues. By contrast John Denham is a highly principled and respected man, his resignation in opposition to the Iraq War when Tories and Whitehead supported it, his work rate, commitment to both his Party and his constituency and his Parliamentary record are exemplary. He woulld make a first class Leader and Prime Minister and I urge him put his name forward as a candidate. TEBOURBA
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3:52pm Tue 18 May 10

geoff51 says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
Alan Whitehead's only claim to fame whilst being a MP, is anonimity and invisibility. I cannot recall anything of benefit that he has done for Southampton, he has never showed any mettle in going out on a limb and opposing controversial issues. By contrast John Denham is a highly principled and respected man, his resignation in opposition to the Iraq War when Tories and Whitehead supported it, his work rate, commitment to both his Party and his constituency and his Parliamentary record are exemplary. He woulld make a first class Leader and Prime Minister and I urge him put his name forward as a candidate.
To be perfectly honest with our 2 remaining Labour MP's for this area, any support for any candidate for leader
would be a death knell as they are 2 of the most invisible lacklustre MP's They have never really represented their city and like all Labour politians are only in it for their own ends.
How much longer are we going to see the bickering within the Labour party over their leader, to be perfectly honest Labour are destined to be in opposition for a very long time judged on their record over the last 13 years
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Alan Whitehead's only claim to fame whilst being a MP, is anonimity and invisibility. I cannot recall anything of benefit that he has done for Southampton, he has never showed any mettle in going out on a limb and opposing controversial issues. By contrast John Denham is a highly principled and respected man, his resignation in opposition to the Iraq War when Tories and Whitehead supported it, his work rate, commitment to both his Party and his constituency and his Parliamentary record are exemplary. He woulld make a first class Leader and Prime Minister and I urge him put his name forward as a candidate.[/p][/quote]To be perfectly honest with our 2 remaining Labour MP's for this area, any support for any candidate for leader would be a death knell as they are 2 of the most invisible lacklustre MP's They have never really represented their city and like all Labour politians are only in it for their own ends. How much longer are we going to see the bickering within the Labour party over their leader, to be perfectly honest Labour are destined to be in opposition for a very long time judged on their record over the last 13 years geoff51
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3:58pm Tue 18 May 10

Walter Kurtz says...

Lots of criticism for Whitehead & Denham on here.....but they have continually seen off numerous opponents at Election time - must be doing something right!
Lots of criticism for Whitehead & Denham on here.....but they have continually seen off numerous opponents at Election time - must be doing something right! Walter Kurtz
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4:39pm Tue 18 May 10

southy says...

geoff51 wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Alan Whitehead's only claim to fame whilst being a MP, is anonimity and invisibility. I cannot recall anything of benefit that he has done for Southampton, he has never showed any mettle in going out on a limb and opposing controversial issues. By contrast John Denham is a highly principled and respected man, his resignation in opposition to the Iraq War when Tories and Whitehead supported it, his work rate, commitment to both his Party and his constituency and his Parliamentary record are exemplary. He woulld make a first class Leader and Prime Minister and I urge him put his name forward as a candidate.
To be perfectly honest with our 2 remaining Labour MP's for this area, any support for any candidate for leader
would be a death knell as they are 2 of the most invisible lacklustre MP's They have never really represented their city and like all Labour politians are only in it for their own ends.
How much longer are we going to see the bickering within the Labour party over their leader, to be perfectly honest Labour are destined to be in opposition for a very long time judged on their record over the last 13 years
labour will be back in power before the end off 2012.
[quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Alan Whitehead's only claim to fame whilst being a MP, is anonimity and invisibility. I cannot recall anything of benefit that he has done for Southampton, he has never showed any mettle in going out on a limb and opposing controversial issues. By contrast John Denham is a highly principled and respected man, his resignation in opposition to the Iraq War when Tories and Whitehead supported it, his work rate, commitment to both his Party and his constituency and his Parliamentary record are exemplary. He woulld make a first class Leader and Prime Minister and I urge him put his name forward as a candidate.[/p][/quote]To be perfectly honest with our 2 remaining Labour MP's for this area, any support for any candidate for leader would be a death knell as they are 2 of the most invisible lacklustre MP's They have never really represented their city and like all Labour politians are only in it for their own ends. How much longer are we going to see the bickering within the Labour party over their leader, to be perfectly honest Labour are destined to be in opposition for a very long time judged on their record over the last 13 years[/p][/quote]labour will be back in power before the end off 2012. southy
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4:43pm Tue 18 May 10

Maine Lobster says...

You have no right to judge the performance of Southampton MP's as you live in Totton and therefore are represented by the Conservative constituency of New Forest East, I believe?
If you had been a Southampton resident & had been involved with either of the MP's, I would have respected your comment.
You have no right to judge the performance of Southampton MP's as you live in Totton and therefore are represented by the Conservative constituency of New Forest East, I believe? If you had been a Southampton resident & had been involved with either of the MP's, I would have respected your comment. Maine Lobster
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5:44pm Tue 18 May 10

Cyber-Fug says...

southy wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Alan Whitehead's only claim to fame whilst being a MP, is anonimity and invisibility. I cannot recall anything of benefit that he has done for Southampton, he has never showed any mettle in going out on a limb and opposing controversial issues. By contrast John Denham is a highly principled and respected man, his resignation in opposition to the Iraq War when Tories and Whitehead supported it, his work rate, commitment to both his Party and his constituency and his Parliamentary record are exemplary. He woulld make a first class Leader and Prime Minister and I urge him put his name forward as a candidate.
To be perfectly honest with our 2 remaining Labour MP's for this area, any support for any candidate for leader
would be a death knell as they are 2 of the most invisible lacklustre MP's They have never really represented their city and like all Labour politians are only in it for their own ends.
How much longer are we going to see the bickering within the Labour party over their leader, to be perfectly honest Labour are destined to be in opposition for a very long time judged on their record over the last 13 years
labour will be back in power before the end off 2012.
For the sake of UK plc I hope you prediction is as accurate as your "there will be a huge upset with the TUSC gaining seats" prediction in the run up to the election.

With regards to Whitehead, I have emailed him on four occasions and left a couple of telephone messages for him over the last couple of years and received not ONE reply. Infact, I have only ever seen him once actually doing anything for Southampton...... and that was cheering them on in the JPT Final from his free issue club Wembley seat !
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Alan Whitehead's only claim to fame whilst being a MP, is anonimity and invisibility. I cannot recall anything of benefit that he has done for Southampton, he has never showed any mettle in going out on a limb and opposing controversial issues. By contrast John Denham is a highly principled and respected man, his resignation in opposition to the Iraq War when Tories and Whitehead supported it, his work rate, commitment to both his Party and his constituency and his Parliamentary record are exemplary. He woulld make a first class Leader and Prime Minister and I urge him put his name forward as a candidate.[/p][/quote]To be perfectly honest with our 2 remaining Labour MP's for this area, any support for any candidate for leader would be a death knell as they are 2 of the most invisible lacklustre MP's They have never really represented their city and like all Labour politians are only in it for their own ends. How much longer are we going to see the bickering within the Labour party over their leader, to be perfectly honest Labour are destined to be in opposition for a very long time judged on their record over the last 13 years[/p][/quote]labour will be back in power before the end off 2012.[/p][/quote]For the sake of UK plc I hope you prediction is as accurate as your "there will be a huge upset with the TUSC gaining seats" prediction in the run up to the election. With regards to Whitehead, I have emailed him on four occasions and left a couple of telephone messages for him over the last couple of years and received not ONE reply. Infact, I have only ever seen him once actually doing anything for Southampton...... and that was cheering them on in the JPT Final from his free issue club Wembley seat ! Cyber-Fug
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8:16pm Tue 18 May 10

geoff51 says...

Maine Lobster wrote:
You have no right to judge the performance of Southampton MP's as you live in Totton and therefore are represented by the Conservative constituency of New Forest East, I believe? If you had been a Southampton resident & had been involved with either of the MP's, I would have respected your comment.
I was born and brought up and lived in Shirley up until 10 years ago and my Family traded in Freemantle for over 100 years, so I am in aposition to judge from inside and outside the city. Also I still work in the City centre now.
I only moved out to Totton for a better and quieter lifestyle, I still stand by my judgement of Southamptons 2 invisible MP's
[quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: You have no right to judge the performance of Southampton MP's as you live in Totton and therefore are represented by the Conservative constituency of New Forest East, I believe? If you had been a Southampton resident & had been involved with either of the MP's, I would have respected your comment.[/p][/quote]I was born and brought up and lived in Shirley up until 10 years ago and my Family traded in Freemantle for over 100 years, so I am in aposition to judge from inside and outside the city. Also I still work in the City centre now. I only moved out to Totton for a better and quieter lifestyle, I still stand by my judgement of Southamptons 2 invisible MP's geoff51
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8:19pm Tue 18 May 10

geoff51 says...

southy wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote: Alan Whitehead's only claim to fame whilst being a MP, is anonimity and invisibility. I cannot recall anything of benefit that he has done for Southampton, he has never showed any mettle in going out on a limb and opposing controversial issues. By contrast John Denham is a highly principled and respected man, his resignation in opposition to the Iraq War when Tories and Whitehead supported it, his work rate, commitment to both his Party and his constituency and his Parliamentary record are exemplary. He woulld make a first class Leader and Prime Minister and I urge him put his name forward as a candidate.
To be perfectly honest with our 2 remaining Labour MP's for this area, any support for any candidate for leader would be a death knell as they are 2 of the most invisible lacklustre MP's They have never really represented their city and like all Labour politians are only in it for their own ends. How much longer are we going to see the bickering within the Labour party over their leader, to be perfectly honest Labour are destined to be in opposition for a very long time judged on their record over the last 13 years
labour will be back in power before the end off 2012.
About as likely as your Socialist worker chums have of being elected as an MP
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Alan Whitehead's only claim to fame whilst being a MP, is anonimity and invisibility. I cannot recall anything of benefit that he has done for Southampton, he has never showed any mettle in going out on a limb and opposing controversial issues. By contrast John Denham is a highly principled and respected man, his resignation in opposition to the Iraq War when Tories and Whitehead supported it, his work rate, commitment to both his Party and his constituency and his Parliamentary record are exemplary. He woulld make a first class Leader and Prime Minister and I urge him put his name forward as a candidate.[/p][/quote]To be perfectly honest with our 2 remaining Labour MP's for this area, any support for any candidate for leader would be a death knell as they are 2 of the most invisible lacklustre MP's They have never really represented their city and like all Labour politians are only in it for their own ends. How much longer are we going to see the bickering within the Labour party over their leader, to be perfectly honest Labour are destined to be in opposition for a very long time judged on their record over the last 13 years[/p][/quote]labour will be back in power before the end off 2012.[/p][/quote]About as likely as your Socialist worker chums have of being elected as an MP geoff51
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8:36pm Tue 18 May 10

Condor Man says...

Cyber-Fug wrote:
southy wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote: Alan Whitehead's only claim to fame whilst being a MP, is anonimity and invisibility. I cannot recall anything of benefit that he has done for Southampton, he has never showed any mettle in going out on a limb and opposing controversial issues. By contrast John Denham is a highly principled and respected man, his resignation in opposition to the Iraq War when Tories and Whitehead supported it, his work rate, commitment to both his Party and his constituency and his Parliamentary record are exemplary. He woulld make a first class Leader and Prime Minister and I urge him put his name forward as a candidate.
To be perfectly honest with our 2 remaining Labour MP's for this area, any support for any candidate for leader would be a death knell as they are 2 of the most invisible lacklustre MP's They have never really represented their city and like all Labour politians are only in it for their own ends. How much longer are we going to see the bickering within the Labour party over their leader, to be perfectly honest Labour are destined to be in opposition for a very long time judged on their record over the last 13 years
labour will be back in power before the end off 2012.
For the sake of UK plc I hope you prediction is as accurate as your "there will be a huge upset with the TUSC gaining seats" prediction in the run up to the election. With regards to Whitehead, I have emailed him on four occasions and left a couple of telephone messages for him over the last couple of years and received not ONE reply. Infact, I have only ever seen him once actually doing anything for Southampton...... and that was cheering them on in the JPT Final from his free issue club Wembley seat !
I've only ever seen him in Waitrose! I'd like to see Ed Balls as Labour leader as he'll alienate a lot of the electorate as his mentor Brown did.

Neither Milliband has the gravitas to take on Cameron, although David is a lot more experienced.

Exactly what did the good doctor do for his PhD? He 'taught' at the old Institute before finally scraping past James Hill.
[quote][p][bold]Cyber-Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Alan Whitehead's only claim to fame whilst being a MP, is anonimity and invisibility. I cannot recall anything of benefit that he has done for Southampton, he has never showed any mettle in going out on a limb and opposing controversial issues. By contrast John Denham is a highly principled and respected man, his resignation in opposition to the Iraq War when Tories and Whitehead supported it, his work rate, commitment to both his Party and his constituency and his Parliamentary record are exemplary. He woulld make a first class Leader and Prime Minister and I urge him put his name forward as a candidate.[/p][/quote]To be perfectly honest with our 2 remaining Labour MP's for this area, any support for any candidate for leader would be a death knell as they are 2 of the most invisible lacklustre MP's They have never really represented their city and like all Labour politians are only in it for their own ends. How much longer are we going to see the bickering within the Labour party over their leader, to be perfectly honest Labour are destined to be in opposition for a very long time judged on their record over the last 13 years[/p][/quote]labour will be back in power before the end off 2012.[/p][/quote]For the sake of UK plc I hope you prediction is as accurate as your "there will be a huge upset with the TUSC gaining seats" prediction in the run up to the election. With regards to Whitehead, I have emailed him on four occasions and left a couple of telephone messages for him over the last couple of years and received not ONE reply. Infact, I have only ever seen him once actually doing anything for Southampton...... and that was cheering them on in the JPT Final from his free issue club Wembley seat ![/p][/quote]I've only ever seen him in Waitrose! I'd like to see Ed Balls as Labour leader as he'll alienate a lot of the electorate as his mentor Brown did. Neither Milliband has the gravitas to take on Cameron, although David is a lot more experienced. Exactly what did the good doctor do for his PhD? He 'taught' at the old Institute before finally scraping past James Hill. Condor Man
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9:20pm Tue 18 May 10

Iw61 says...

Spot O'Bother wrote:
No more overweening unions. Thank you Maggie.

sw shop-talk
What are 'overweening Unions'?
[quote][p][bold]Spot O'Bother[/bold] wrote: No more overweening unions. Thank you Maggie. sw shop-talk[/p][/quote]What are 'overweening Unions'? Iw61
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9:25pm Tue 18 May 10

Iw61 says...

Walter Kurtz wrote:
Lots of criticism for Whitehead & Denham on here.....but they have continually seen off numerous opponents at Election time - must be doing something right!
My point exactly.
Im no fan of the New Labour pair but Southampton still is a Labour city!!
After 3 terms of government and the worst recession in two to three generations, Messrs Moulton and Smith still couldnt unseat them. Plus all the money unelected tax dodger Lord Ashcroft poured into the election.
What must Tories do to win these seats again? (apart from boringly say they are 'invisible')
[quote][p][bold]Walter Kurtz[/bold] wrote: Lots of criticism for Whitehead & Denham on here.....but they have continually seen off numerous opponents at Election time - must be doing something right![/p][/quote]My point exactly. Im no fan of the New Labour pair but Southampton still is a Labour city!! After 3 terms of government and the worst recession in two to three generations, Messrs Moulton and Smith still couldnt unseat them. Plus all the money unelected tax dodger Lord Ashcroft poured into the election. What must Tories do to win these seats again? (apart from boringly say they are 'invisible') Iw61
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9:29pm Tue 18 May 10

Condor Man says...

Iw61 wrote:
Walter Kurtz wrote: Lots of criticism for Whitehead & Denham on here.....but they have continually seen off numerous opponents at Election time - must be doing something right!
My point exactly. Im no fan of the New Labour pair but Southampton still is a Labour city!! After 3 terms of government and the worst recession in two to three generations, Messrs Moulton and Smith still couldnt unseat them. Plus all the money unelected tax dodger Lord Ashcroft poured into the election. What must Tories do to win these seats again? (apart from boringly say they are 'invisible')
I don't think a majority of 192 is an indictment of Denham's success as an MP. In your own area you'll know full well that the Tories dominate local politics and have done so for the past 5 years.
[quote][p][bold]Iw61[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Walter Kurtz[/bold] wrote: Lots of criticism for Whitehead & Denham on here.....but they have continually seen off numerous opponents at Election time - must be doing something right![/p][/quote]My point exactly. Im no fan of the New Labour pair but Southampton still is a Labour city!! After 3 terms of government and the worst recession in two to three generations, Messrs Moulton and Smith still couldnt unseat them. Plus all the money unelected tax dodger Lord Ashcroft poured into the election. What must Tories do to win these seats again? (apart from boringly say they are 'invisible')[/p][/quote]I don't think a majority of 192 is an indictment of Denham's success as an MP. In your own area you'll know full well that the Tories dominate local politics and have done so for the past 5 years. Condor Man
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12:00am Wed 19 May 10

southy says...

Condor Man wrote:
Iw61 wrote:
Walter Kurtz wrote: Lots of criticism for Whitehead & Denham on here.....but they have continually seen off numerous opponents at Election time - must be doing something right!
My point exactly. Im no fan of the New Labour pair but Southampton still is a Labour city!! After 3 terms of government and the worst recession in two to three generations, Messrs Moulton and Smith still couldnt unseat them. Plus all the money unelected tax dodger Lord Ashcroft poured into the election. What must Tories do to win these seats again? (apart from boringly say they are 'invisible')
I don't think a majority of 192 is an indictment of Denham's success as an MP. In your own area you'll know full well that the Tories dominate local politics and have done so for the past 5 years.
Well the most off this tory government it be the last you see off them for at lest 2 generation and with luck for good.
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Iw61[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Walter Kurtz[/bold] wrote: Lots of criticism for Whitehead & Denham on here.....but they have continually seen off numerous opponents at Election time - must be doing something right![/p][/quote]My point exactly. Im no fan of the New Labour pair but Southampton still is a Labour city!! After 3 terms of government and the worst recession in two to three generations, Messrs Moulton and Smith still couldnt unseat them. Plus all the money unelected tax dodger Lord Ashcroft poured into the election. What must Tories do to win these seats again? (apart from boringly say they are 'invisible')[/p][/quote]I don't think a majority of 192 is an indictment of Denham's success as an MP. In your own area you'll know full well that the Tories dominate local politics and have done so for the past 5 years.[/p][/quote]Well the most off this tory government it be the last you see off them for at lest 2 generation and with luck for good. southy
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2:45pm Wed 19 May 10

allsaintsnocurves says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
Alan Whitehead's only claim to fame whilst being a MP, is anonimity and invisibility. I cannot recall anything of benefit that he has done for Southampton, he has never showed any mettle in going out on a limb and opposing controversial issues. By contrast John Denham is a highly principled and respected man, his resignation in opposition to the Iraq War when Tories and Whitehead supported it, his work rate, commitment to both his Party and his constituency and his Parliamentary record are exemplary. He woulld make a first class Leader and Prime Minister and I urge him put his name forward as a candidate.
2 words - Re - Count!

Denham hung onto his seat by 200 after a re-count with one of the biggest swings to the Tories...i'm not sure he'd be the right choice.

As many can jump into the race as they like but it will come down to a straight fight between David Milliband and Ed Balls...mark my words! DM would be my shout just because Ed Balls would be a bit of a laughing stock overseas with a name like that!
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Alan Whitehead's only claim to fame whilst being a MP, is anonimity and invisibility. I cannot recall anything of benefit that he has done for Southampton, he has never showed any mettle in going out on a limb and opposing controversial issues. By contrast John Denham is a highly principled and respected man, his resignation in opposition to the Iraq War when Tories and Whitehead supported it, his work rate, commitment to both his Party and his constituency and his Parliamentary record are exemplary. He woulld make a first class Leader and Prime Minister and I urge him put his name forward as a candidate.[/p][/quote]2 words - Re - Count! Denham hung onto his seat by 200 after a re-count with one of the biggest swings to the Tories...i'm not sure he'd be the right choice. As many can jump into the race as they like but it will come down to a straight fight between David Milliband and Ed Balls...mark my words! DM would be my shout just because Ed Balls would be a bit of a laughing stock overseas with a name like that! allsaintsnocurves
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3:57pm Wed 19 May 10

southy says...

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Alan Whitehead's only claim to fame whilst being a MP, is anonimity and invisibility. I cannot recall anything of benefit that he has done for Southampton, he has never showed any mettle in going out on a limb and opposing controversial issues. By contrast John Denham is a highly principled and respected man, his resignation in opposition to the Iraq War when Tories and Whitehead supported it, his work rate, commitment to both his Party and his constituency and his Parliamentary record are exemplary. He woulld make a first class Leader and Prime Minister and I urge him put his name forward as a candidate.
2 words - Re - Count!

Denham hung onto his seat by 200 after a re-count with one of the biggest swings to the Tories...i'm not sure he'd be the right choice.

As many can jump into the race as they like but it will come down to a straight fight between David Milliband and Ed Balls...mark my words! DM would be my shout just because Ed Balls would be a bit of a laughing stock overseas with a name like that!
and if smithy kept his mouth shut it would of been closer result. he called for two recounts and both never went his way.
[quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Alan Whitehead's only claim to fame whilst being a MP, is anonimity and invisibility. I cannot recall anything of benefit that he has done for Southampton, he has never showed any mettle in going out on a limb and opposing controversial issues. By contrast John Denham is a highly principled and respected man, his resignation in opposition to the Iraq War when Tories and Whitehead supported it, his work rate, commitment to both his Party and his constituency and his Parliamentary record are exemplary. He woulld make a first class Leader and Prime Minister and I urge him put his name forward as a candidate.[/p][/quote]2 words - Re - Count! Denham hung onto his seat by 200 after a re-count with one of the biggest swings to the Tories...i'm not sure he'd be the right choice. As many can jump into the race as they like but it will come down to a straight fight between David Milliband and Ed Balls...mark my words! DM would be my shout just because Ed Balls would be a bit of a laughing stock overseas with a name like that![/p][/quote]and if smithy kept his mouth shut it would of been closer result. he called for two recounts and both never went his way. southy
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