Julian Lewis and Terry Scriven argue over New Forest East election dress code

Daily Echo: Terry Scriven in uniform Terry Scriven in uniform

A WAR of words has erupted between two Hampshire general election candidates over whether one should have appeared in uniform on a political leaflet.

Tory Julian Lewis accused rival Terry Scriven of breaching the spirit of Army rules after his photograph was used on the front of a Liberal Democrat newsletter in January.

But Mr Scriven has described the attack as “absolutely disgusting” saying the newsletter was non-political.

The former Military Police colonel said the picture was taken last October at Totton and Eling branch of the Royal British Legion where he presented the Armed Forces Veterans Badge to 30 men and women.

Mr Scriven, who is standing against Mr Lewis in the New Forest East constituency, said: “There’s no reason why that picture should not have appeared in there. It’s non-political. As a senior officer everyone who is rated above the rank of major is authorised to wear their uniform on special occasions.

“It was appropriate for me to wear the uniform to make this presentation to our local veterans.

“I’ve spent my life looking after veterans and to me this seems to smack of gutter politics. It’s a pity that Mr Lewis is so extremely concerned that he will not win this election.”

Mr Scriven confirmed that he had been contacted by senior Army officer Mike Griffiths warning him not to wear uniform during the election campaign.

Mr Lewis, himself a former seaman in the Royal Navy Reserve, serving on the Southampton-based minesweeper HMS Glasserton during the Cold War, said: “So far as I can tell, pictures of Terry Scriven dressing up in his Military Policeman’s uniform now, when he retired back in October 1998, actually irritate more people than they impress – particularly ex-servicemen.

“What is more worrying is his distribution of posters telling voters to support “Colonel”

Scriven, though he no longer holds that rank.

For some reason, he does not want to use his correct title, which is “Colonel (Retired). I shall be interested to see what eventually appears on the ballot paper.”

New rules brought in on March 31 concerning army dress regulations mean retired officers have now been banned from hitting the election trail in uniform. Prior to the change Mr Scriven said he asked Army bosses for permission to wear his uniform for the presentation, which was granted.

Other candidates standing in New Forest East MP are Labour’s Peter Sopowski and the Green’s Beverley Golden.

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10:29am Mon 12 Apr 10

Derek of Dibden Purlieu says...

Another poor old duffer who continues to re-live his day of glory. Move on and get a life.
Another poor old duffer who continues to re-live his day of glory. Move on and get a life. Derek of Dibden Purlieu
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11:44am Mon 12 Apr 10

southy says...

theres a very good chance scriven will be voted in. only because people over there are still voting in high numbers, unlike here in the test if moulton gets in it will because even more people are voting. southampton test last general election only saw 52% of the people who could voted did vote. and this election it forecast is about 50% maybe has low has 48%. no one to vote for so why bother to vote.
theres a very good chance scriven will be voted in. only because people over there are still voting in high numbers, unlike here in the test if moulton gets in it will because even more people are voting. southampton test last general election only saw 52% of the people who could voted did vote. and this election it forecast is about 50% maybe has low has 48%. no one to vote for so why bother to vote. southy
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11:45am Mon 12 Apr 10

southy says...

"because even more people are voting" should read "because even more people are not voting" i missed out a word
"because even more people are voting" should read "because even more people are not voting" i missed out a word southy
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11:56am Mon 12 Apr 10

Derek of Dibden Purlieu says...

southy wrote:
"because even more people are voting" should read "because even more people are not voting" i missed out a word
How unusual!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: "because even more people are voting" should read "because even more people are not voting" i missed out a word[/p][/quote]How unusual! Derek of Dibden Purlieu
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12:19pm Mon 12 Apr 10

southy says...

debate derek and not make sly comments, oh i for got you dont know how to debate
debate derek and not make sly comments, oh i for got you dont know how to debate southy
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3:26pm Mon 12 Apr 10

Derek of Dibden Purlieu says...

southy wrote:
debate derek and not make sly comments, oh i for got you dont know how to debate
Unfortunately a debate with you entails agreeing with all of the rubbish you regurgitate every time someone offers you an opening. Would you care to debate your proficiency in spelling and grammar?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: debate derek and not make sly comments, oh i for got you dont know how to debate[/p][/quote]Unfortunately a debate with you entails agreeing with all of the rubbish you regurgitate every time someone offers you an opening. Would you care to debate your proficiency in spelling and grammar? Derek of Dibden Purlieu
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3:36pm Mon 12 Apr 10

southy says...

Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:
southy wrote:
debate derek and not make sly comments, oh i for got you dont know how to debate
Unfortunately a debate with you entails agreeing with all of the rubbish you regurgitate every time someone offers you an opening. Would you care to debate your proficiency in spelling and grammar?
you just cant keep to the article in question can you, so your showing you cant debate on the subject if politics is not your fortay say so i can under stand. its not to very one liking even lo it effects every one.
[quote][p][bold]Derek of Dibden Purlieu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: debate derek and not make sly comments, oh i for got you dont know how to debate[/p][/quote]Unfortunately a debate with you entails agreeing with all of the rubbish you regurgitate every time someone offers you an opening. Would you care to debate your proficiency in spelling and grammar?[/p][/quote]you just cant keep to the article in question can you, so your showing you cant debate on the subject if politics is not your fortay say so i can under stand. its not to very one liking even lo it effects every one. southy
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4:02pm Mon 12 Apr 10

espanuel says...

Southy, Everyone's liking. And also that colonel (Retired) will not get in Westminster.
Southy, Everyone's liking. And also that colonel (Retired) will not get in Westminster. espanuel
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4:17pm Mon 12 Apr 10

southy says...

espanuel wrote:
Southy, Everyone's liking. And also that colonel (Retired) will not get in Westminster.
to be honest espanuel armed service people make the worse politicians
[quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: Southy, Everyone's liking. And also that colonel (Retired) will not get in Westminster.[/p][/quote]to be honest espanuel armed service people make the worse politicians southy
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4:22pm Mon 12 Apr 10

Bartonian says...

southy wrote:
espanuel wrote: Southy, Everyone's liking. And also that colonel (Retired) will not get in Westminster.
to be honest espanuel armed service people make the worse politicians
The same goes for illiterate socialists.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: Southy, Everyone's liking. And also that colonel (Retired) will not get in Westminster.[/p][/quote]to be honest espanuel armed service people make the worse politicians[/p][/quote]The same goes for illiterate socialists. Bartonian
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4:46pm Mon 12 Apr 10

King Mush says...

Bartonian wrote:
southy wrote:
espanuel wrote: Southy, Everyone's liking. And also that colonel (Retired) will not get in Westminster.
to be honest espanuel armed service people make the worse politicians
The same goes for illiterate socialists.
Cheap shots at Southy

Likewise- DerekDibden:

"Would you care to debate your proficiency in spelling and grammar?"

If anyone is a long term reader or contributor then you would think that a degree of tolerance and courtesy might prevail when responding to 'prolific' posters such as Southy. Admittedly he does tend to go down the usual political path but he writes with conviction and does make a lot of sense- even if not perhaps being educated to university level as many of the pompous pedants appear to be spouting.

Mangled grammar never stopped John Prescott from attaining high office a few years after serving drinks on the liners out of Southampton!
[quote][p][bold]Bartonian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: Southy, Everyone's liking. And also that colonel (Retired) will not get in Westminster.[/p][/quote]to be honest espanuel armed service people make the worse politicians[/p][/quote]The same goes for illiterate socialists.[/p][/quote]Cheap shots at Southy Likewise- DerekDibden: "Would you care to debate your proficiency in spelling and grammar?" If anyone is a long term reader or contributor then you would think that a degree of tolerance and courtesy might prevail when responding to 'prolific' posters such as Southy. Admittedly he does tend to go down the usual political path but he writes with conviction and does make a lot of sense- even if not perhaps being educated to university level as many of the pompous pedants appear to be spouting. Mangled grammar never stopped John Prescott from attaining high office a few years after serving drinks on the liners out of Southampton! King Mush
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4:54pm Mon 12 Apr 10

southy says...

King Mush wrote:
Bartonian wrote:
southy wrote:
espanuel wrote: Southy, Everyone's liking. And also that colonel (Retired) will not get in Westminster.
to be honest espanuel armed service people make the worse politicians
The same goes for illiterate socialists.
Cheap shots at Southy

Likewise- DerekDibden:

"Would you care to debate your proficiency in spelling and grammar?"

If anyone is a long term reader or contributor then you would think that a degree of tolerance and courtesy might prevail when responding to 'prolific' posters such as Southy. Admittedly he does tend to go down the usual political path but he writes with conviction and does make a lot of sense- even if not perhaps being educated to university level as many of the pompous pedants appear to be spouting.

Mangled grammar never stopped John Prescott from attaining high office a few years after serving drinks on the liners out of Southampton!
and it never stop king john becoming king and he could not even sign his own name let alone read and write.
[quote][p][bold]King Mush[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bartonian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: Southy, Everyone's liking. And also that colonel (Retired) will not get in Westminster.[/p][/quote]to be honest espanuel armed service people make the worse politicians[/p][/quote]The same goes for illiterate socialists.[/p][/quote]Cheap shots at Southy Likewise- DerekDibden: "Would you care to debate your proficiency in spelling and grammar?" If anyone is a long term reader or contributor then you would think that a degree of tolerance and courtesy might prevail when responding to 'prolific' posters such as Southy. Admittedly he does tend to go down the usual political path but he writes with conviction and does make a lot of sense- even if not perhaps being educated to university level as many of the pompous pedants appear to be spouting. Mangled grammar never stopped John Prescott from attaining high office a few years after serving drinks on the liners out of Southampton![/p][/quote]and it never stop king john becoming king and he could not even sign his own name let alone read and write. southy
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5:07pm Mon 12 Apr 10

King Mush says...

Southy:

"and it never stop king john becoming king and he could not even sign his own name let alone read and write."

Aha- so the Magna Carta is invalid? Is it time for legal action to throw it all out so that we can start all over again?

If retrospective legal compensation claims can be made against the banks (PPI etc) then maybe we can appoint a 'No win- No Fee' firm to prove that the document was not actually read or explained before my ancestor scribbled his cross at Runnymede?

Or maybe the island was under the protection of another country at that time so actually instigated on foreign soil?

Is there any proof that King John was the rightful heir to the throne? I have been fighting for my proper place in the Monarchy for years and am not a Pretender to the Throne that is rightly mine!


Gotta go now - nurse is bringing my medication..........
Southy: "and it never stop king john becoming king and he could not even sign his own name let alone read and write." Aha- so the Magna Carta is invalid? Is it time for legal action to throw it all out so that we can start all over again? If retrospective legal compensation claims can be made against the banks (PPI etc) then maybe we can appoint a 'No win- No Fee' firm to prove that the document was not actually read or explained before my ancestor scribbled his cross at Runnymede? Or maybe the island was under the protection of another country at that time so actually instigated on foreign soil? Is there any proof that King John was the rightful heir to the throne? I have been fighting for my proper place in the Monarchy for years and am not a Pretender to the Throne that is rightly mine! Gotta go now - nurse is bringing my medication.......... King Mush
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5:24pm Mon 12 Apr 10

southy says...

sorry KM you have no chance, one thing out going king can name his or her successor on there death bed. and don,t need to be family.
king john agreed to the magna carta by stamping the crown seal on it
sorry KM you have no chance, one thing out going king can name his or her successor on there death bed. and don,t need to be family. king john agreed to the magna carta by stamping the crown seal on it southy
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5:50pm Mon 12 Apr 10

King Mush says...

king john agreed to the magna carta by stamping the crown seal on it

PROVE IT!!!!


;o)
king john agreed to the magna carta by stamping the crown seal on it PROVE IT!!!! ;o) King Mush
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6:02pm Mon 12 Apr 10

southy says...

King Mush wrote:
king john agreed to the magna carta by stamping the crown seal on it

PROVE IT!!!!


;o)
well go to runnymede and/or winchester cathedral and ask to see the crown seal that is stamp on the magna carta and the names of the barons under the seal, then go to westminster cathedral and ask to see the book on all crown seals designs. each crown seal is designed and made by the church and are different for each crown, and the list where the crown seal is used. (when a crown head dies his/hers crown seal is destroyed and never repeated or copied.)

now can i see your crown seal. :-)
[quote][p][bold]King Mush[/bold] wrote: king john agreed to the magna carta by stamping the crown seal on it PROVE IT!!!! ;o)[/p][/quote]well go to runnymede and/or winchester cathedral and ask to see the crown seal that is stamp on the magna carta and the names of the barons under the seal, then go to westminster cathedral and ask to see the book on all crown seals designs. each crown seal is designed and made by the church and are different for each crown, and the list where the crown seal is used. (when a crown head dies his/hers crown seal is destroyed and never repeated or copied.) now can i see your crown seal. :-) southy
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7:03pm Mon 12 Apr 10

Brite Spark says...

This is absolutely absurd I had to earn my promotion. How can a Colonel apply for a General Election, he can't just miss out Brigadier, and go straight to General, this is yet another example of the armed forces going soft.
This is absolutely absurd I had to earn my promotion. How can a Colonel apply for a General Election, he can't just miss out Brigadier, and go straight to General, this is yet another example of the armed forces going soft. Brite Spark
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7:43pm Mon 12 Apr 10

Sir Ad E Noid says...

Well Derek, I take it from your post that you served your country with distinction, and you are now qualified to call Mr Scriven an old duffer!! No I didn't think so. “Colonel” Scriven should move on from his army service, and any pictures, at any time, to promote him, should not be in uniform. As is his right, he is allowed to carry the title “Colonel”, some times it can grate, but he earned, no not purchased, his rank. Saying that he was a redcap!!
Well Derek, I take it from your post that you served your country with distinction, and you are now qualified to call Mr Scriven an old duffer!! No I didn't think so. “Colonel” Scriven should move on from his army service, and any pictures, at any time, to promote him, should not be in uniform. As is his right, he is allowed to carry the title “Colonel”, some times it can grate, but he earned, no not purchased, his rank. Saying that he was a redcap!! Sir Ad E Noid
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8:00pm Mon 12 Apr 10

Brite Spark says...

Derek?
Derek? Brite Spark
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8:11pm Mon 12 Apr 10

Owl says...

It's not a very flattering picture of the Colonel - his teeth are the same colour as the scrambled egg on his cap!
It's not a very flattering picture of the Colonel - his teeth are the same colour as the scrambled egg on his cap! Owl
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8:57pm Mon 12 Apr 10

Linesman says...

Owl wrote:
It's not a very flattering picture of the Colonel - his teeth are the same colour as the scrambled egg on his cap!
Maybe he should have them 'airbrushed' !

It worked wonders for Fred Dinenage's daughter on her election posters!
[quote][p][bold]Owl[/bold] wrote: It's not a very flattering picture of the Colonel - his teeth are the same colour as the scrambled egg on his cap![/p][/quote]Maybe he should have them 'airbrushed' ! It worked wonders for Fred Dinenage's daughter on her election posters! Linesman
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10:33pm Mon 12 Apr 10

Miles Way says...

Mr Lewis is worried about him using the title "Colonel"? Is this the same Mr Lewis who prefers to be addressed as Doctor (of politics I think)?
Should realise the general public don't really give a rats ar5e and trying to score petty points like this is stupid.
Mr Lewis is worried about him using the title "Colonel"? Is this the same Mr Lewis who prefers to be addressed as Doctor (of politics I think)? Should realise the general public don't really give a rats ar5e and trying to score petty points like this is stupid. Miles Way
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10:59pm Mon 12 Apr 10

clausentum says...

Politics and military uniforms are suspect bedfellows - just look at other Nations where the two get mixed together.
Politics and military uniforms are suspect bedfellows - just look at other Nations where the two get mixed together. clausentum
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11:42pm Mon 12 Apr 10

Derek of Dibden Purlieu says...

Sir Ad E Noid wrote:
Well Derek, I take it from your post that you served your country with distinction, and you are now qualified to call Mr Scriven an old duffer!! No I didn't think so. “Colonel” Scriven should move on from his army service, and any pictures, at any time, to promote him, should not be in uniform. As is his right, he is allowed to carry the title “Colonel”, some times it can grate, but he earned, no not purchased, his rank. Saying that he was a redcap!!
In order to make a statement about a murderer, I don't need to be one myself. If the old fool is hoping to impress by parading around in an old army uniform, we'll see if he's duped enough people within the next few weeks.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Ad E Noid[/bold] wrote: Well Derek, I take it from your post that you served your country with distinction, and you are now qualified to call Mr Scriven an old duffer!! No I didn't think so. “Colonel” Scriven should move on from his army service, and any pictures, at any time, to promote him, should not be in uniform. As is his right, he is allowed to carry the title “Colonel”, some times it can grate, but he earned, no not purchased, his rank. Saying that he was a redcap!![/p][/quote]In order to make a statement about a murderer, I don't need to be one myself. If the old fool is hoping to impress by parading around in an old army uniform, we'll see if he's duped enough people within the next few weeks. Derek of Dibden Purlieu
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11:45pm Mon 12 Apr 10

soton-mike80 says...

So here we go again... Tory vs Lib Dem vs Labour - all crying foul of the others... this isn't news, it's one politician trying to discredit another and the Echo is giving them a soap box! (not that I'm surprised mind you) - won't be long until they're all at it... don't forget people - vote on policies, not whose blustering the loudest! LOL!
So here we go again... Tory vs Lib Dem vs Labour - all crying foul of the others... this isn't news, it's one politician trying to discredit another and the Echo is giving them a soap box! (not that I'm surprised mind you) - won't be long until they're all at it... don't forget people - vote on policies, not whose blustering the loudest! LOL! soton-mike80
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12:17am Tue 13 Apr 10

warness says...

Is that picture a belated April Fool of Captain Sensible?
It aint half hot mum?

Or is looking normal not his Fortay?
Is that picture a belated April Fool of Captain Sensible? It aint half hot mum? Or is looking normal not his Fortay? warness
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1:54am Tue 13 Apr 10

southy says...

Linesman wrote:
Owl wrote:
It's not a very flattering picture of the Colonel - his teeth are the same colour as the scrambled egg on his cap!
Maybe he should have them 'airbrushed' !

It worked wonders for Fred Dinenage's daughter on her election posters!
and on cameron the wana be pm.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Owl[/bold] wrote: It's not a very flattering picture of the Colonel - his teeth are the same colour as the scrambled egg on his cap![/p][/quote]Maybe he should have them 'airbrushed' ! It worked wonders for Fred Dinenage's daughter on her election posters![/p][/quote]and on cameron the wana be pm. southy
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1:56am Tue 13 Apr 10

southy says...

Miles Way wrote:
Mr Lewis is worried about him using the title "Colonel"? Is this the same Mr Lewis who prefers to be addressed as Doctor (of politics I think)?
Should realise the general public don't really give a rats ar5e and trying to score petty points like this is stupid.
the very same one miles mr dr lewis of politics but dont know how to do things him self, let other people do the work then claim he done it
[quote][p][bold]Miles Way[/bold] wrote: Mr Lewis is worried about him using the title "Colonel"? Is this the same Mr Lewis who prefers to be addressed as Doctor (of politics I think)? Should realise the general public don't really give a rats ar5e and trying to score petty points like this is stupid.[/p][/quote]the very same one miles mr dr lewis of politics but dont know how to do things him self, let other people do the work then claim he done it southy
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10:54am Tue 13 Apr 10

Derek of Dibden Purlieu says...

southy wrote:
Miles Way wrote:
Mr Lewis is worried about him using the title "Colonel"? Is this the same Mr Lewis who prefers to be addressed as Doctor (of politics I think)?
Should realise the general public don't really give a rats ar5e and trying to score petty points like this is stupid.
the very same one miles mr dr lewis of politics but dont know how to do things him self, let other people do the work then claim he done it
Just to correct both of you, one was a Colonel when he was in the army many years ago and at best is now Colonel (retired) The other will be entitled to the prefix of 'Doctor' in the same way that any other University gained qualification is earned and that's for as long as he lives.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Miles Way[/bold] wrote: Mr Lewis is worried about him using the title "Colonel"? Is this the same Mr Lewis who prefers to be addressed as Doctor (of politics I think)? Should realise the general public don't really give a rats ar5e and trying to score petty points like this is stupid.[/p][/quote]the very same one miles mr dr lewis of politics but dont know how to do things him self, let other people do the work then claim he done it[/p][/quote]Just to correct both of you, one was a Colonel when he was in the army many years ago and at best is now Colonel (retired) The other will be entitled to the prefix of 'Doctor' in the same way that any other University gained qualification is earned and that's for as long as he lives. Derek of Dibden Purlieu
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11:44am Tue 13 Apr 10

southy says...

Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:
southy wrote:
Miles Way wrote:
Mr Lewis is worried about him using the title "Colonel"? Is this the same Mr Lewis who prefers to be addressed as Doctor (of politics I think)?
Should realise the general public don't really give a rats ar5e and trying to score petty points like this is stupid.
the very same one miles mr dr lewis of politics but dont know how to do things him self, let other people do the work then claim he done it
Just to correct both of you, one was a Colonel when he was in the army many years ago and at best is now Colonel (retired) The other will be entitled to the prefix of 'Doctor' in the same way that any other University gained qualification is earned and that's for as long as he lives.
yet he tryed to bandy his dr around has if it was a dr of some sort of health care with out saying it. when ask at a meeting not so long ago whitch dr of medicine are you he diverted and gave a true answer but a misleading one. it took another member of public at this meeting to stand up and say he was not any kind of dr of medicine but a doctor of politics and a poor one at that, has any one knows to get a dr of politics is one of the easiest doctor titles you can get. most people in the uk could get this title very easy and dont need to go to uni to get it, it is that easy to get yet this guy needed to go to uni to qualify. little foot note for you mr lewis was that bright he made it has edh in the fleet reserve at hms wessex so i wondering if there a bit of jealousy going on there.
[quote][p][bold]Derek of Dibden Purlieu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Miles Way[/bold] wrote: Mr Lewis is worried about him using the title "Colonel"? Is this the same Mr Lewis who prefers to be addressed as Doctor (of politics I think)? Should realise the general public don't really give a rats ar5e and trying to score petty points like this is stupid.[/p][/quote]the very same one miles mr dr lewis of politics but dont know how to do things him self, let other people do the work then claim he done it[/p][/quote]Just to correct both of you, one was a Colonel when he was in the army many years ago and at best is now Colonel (retired) The other will be entitled to the prefix of 'Doctor' in the same way that any other University gained qualification is earned and that's for as long as he lives.[/p][/quote]yet he tryed to bandy his dr around has if it was a dr of some sort of health care with out saying it. when ask at a meeting not so long ago whitch dr of medicine are you he diverted and gave a true answer but a misleading one. it took another member of public at this meeting to stand up and say he was not any kind of dr of medicine but a doctor of politics and a poor one at that, has any one knows to get a dr of politics is one of the easiest doctor titles you can get. most people in the uk could get this title very easy and dont need to go to uni to get it, it is that easy to get yet this guy needed to go to uni to qualify. little foot note for you mr lewis was that bright he made it has edh in the fleet reserve at hms wessex so i wondering if there a bit of jealousy going on there. southy
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2:19pm Tue 13 Apr 10

Brock_and_Roll says...

All irrelevant bickering as the way the demographics of the seat are currently stacked even a small dog with a blue rosette would get elected in New Forest East.

Lewis' vote has actually been quite solid (after all the kind of tories you get in this seat are the kind of tories that have always voted that way not mondeo men, but blue rinsed rotary club members!!).

If people's objective is to get rid of the current government then the Labour vote may drift but as they only got 5,000 votes there are not enough votes for the Lib Dems to pick up. Furthermore, people will be well aware that voting Lib-Dem, even if it suits their personal politics runs the risk of letting Labour in again on a national basis. Better to vote green if you have an axe to grind, and it is at least relevant to the New Forest!
All irrelevant bickering as the way the demographics of the seat are currently stacked even a small dog with a blue rosette would get elected in New Forest East. Lewis' vote has actually been quite solid (after all the kind of tories you get in this seat are the kind of tories that have always voted that way not mondeo men, but blue rinsed rotary club members!!). If people's objective is to get rid of the current government then the Labour vote may drift but as they only got 5,000 votes there are not enough votes for the Lib Dems to pick up. Furthermore, people will be well aware that voting Lib-Dem, even if it suits their personal politics runs the risk of letting Labour in again on a national basis. Better to vote green if you have an axe to grind, and it is at least relevant to the New Forest! Brock_and_Roll
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