Clegg due to visit Hampshire (From Daily Echo)

I would imagine that most of us will vote for the one who has done most in our neighbourhood. God help those we are not pleased with. Sandra Gidley appears to be hard working. Nevertheless, I am concerned that Nick Clegg appears to be for the EU and I am opposed to this because no Candidate appears to have the courage for us to go it alone - it has become 'the devil we know' with the EU and so much industry has been lost or bought out that we have cut off our nose.... together with with our old affiliation with other Nations, and yes, we are in a state of flux that most would bend at the knees in fear of going it alone, especially as we have SO many migrants, illegal or otherwise, how on earth can the Nation support them as well as ourselves.

goard

Clegg, like Huhne, made his money on the EU gravy train before coming back to Westminster to further his party career.

goard wrote:
I would imagine that most of us will vote for the one who has done most in our neighbourhood. God help those we are not pleased with. Sandra Gidley appears to be hard working. Nevertheless, I am concerned that Nick Clegg appears to be for the EU and I am opposed to this because no Candidate appears to have the courage for us to go it alone - it has become 'the devil we know' with the EU and so much industry has been lost or bought out that we have cut off our nose.... together with with our old affiliation with other Nations, and yes, we are in a state of flux that most would bend at the knees in fear of going it alone, especially as we have SO many migrants, illegal or otherwise, how on earth can the Nation support them as well as ourselves. goard

You're right. He is in favour of the EU, as well as an amnesty for migrants, not to mention being an athiest. I would like to see a new political movement that would stand up for British values but I feel that our political establishment have sold us all out, through selling off state assets to signing successive European Treaties. This has all been part of a plan going back many years by those seeking to create a world government. Immigration, the de-skilling of the labour force and the breakup of families have all payed a part in Britain's demise as a nation-state. Mr Clegg undoutedly voted in favour of the Lisbon Treaty. This, they say was just a clean up of all preious treaties, but it was drawn up by lawyers and like any treaty, it hides the real truth, that Britain and all other EU participants, have ceased to be nation-states.

Right... because a refusal to believe in fairy stories is a serious flaw in any candidate.

I can use 8 of the 10 letters in the picture behind him to make the word scholars.

Oh, I'm sorry, should there be something in the article I should be reading instead of playing silly games?

Condor Man wrote:
Clegg, like Huhne, made his money on the EU gravy train before coming back to Westminster to further his party career.

Clegg wasn't an EU politician, he managed overseas development and aid projects. Completely thing altogether.

You're getting as bad as the Daily Fail with your slurs Condor.

Facewagon wrote:
Right... because a refusal to believe in fairy stories is a serious flaw in any candidate.

Another person who cannot justify what he has said. Go on, enlighten us.

Bartonian wrote:

Facewagon wrote: Right... because a refusal to believe in fairy stories is a serious flaw in any candidate.

Another person who cannot justify what he has said. Go on, enlighten us.

I'd be delighted to, right after you justify your implication that being an atheist has any bearing whatsoever on an individual's fitness to govern. Go on, enlighten us.

Facewagon wrote:

Bartonian wrote:

Facewagon wrote: Right... because a refusal to believe in fairy stories is a serious flaw in any candidate.

Another person who cannot justify what he has said. Go on, enlighten us.

I'd be delighted to, right after you justify your implication that being an atheist has any bearing whatsoever on an individual's fitness to govern. Go on, enlighten us.

Ok then. People, especially the young need to have a positive direction and the moral fabric of society, particularly in the U.S became eroded when the teachings of the Bible ceased to be taught in schools in the 1960s. People who have the Bible close to their hearts are much more outgoing and positive than those who aren't. It is a book that has stood the test of time for centuries. It predicted the restoration of Israel for starters, along with many other things. If it was false then it would have been discarded years ago.

Bartonian wrote:

Facewagon wrote:

Bartonian wrote:

Facewagon wrote: Right... because a refusal to believe in fairy stories is a serious flaw in any candidate.

Another person who cannot justify what he has said. Go on, enlighten us.

I'd be delighted to, right after you justify your implication that being an atheist has any bearing whatsoever on an individual's fitness to govern. Go on, enlighten us.

Ok then. People, especially the young need to have a positive direction and the moral fabric of society, particularly in the U.S became eroded when the teachings of the Bible ceased to be taught in schools in the 1960s. People who have the Bible close to their hearts are much more outgoing and positive than those who aren't. It is a book that has stood the test of time for centuries. It predicted the restoration of Israel for starters, along with many other things. If it was false then it would have been discarded years ago.

Well, I agree totally about the need for a positive direction, but I disagree that you can only get this from releigious faith. I agree that some of the teachings in the Bible mark out a good path of moral guidance - although others are morally abhorrent - but I don't think this has anything to do with the book they're in as opposed to what they say. A crude example: "thou shalt not kill" is good advice in itself - it doesn't get its value purely from its status as a command from God.

We should also not forget that while many who have the Bible close to their hearts many be positive and outgoing, there are also many others who are hateful and corrupt. The current endless stream of Catholic child-rape cases should make that obvious enough!

In my opinion an ideal candidate would have a strong sense of morality (for what good it would do), but I don't think being an atheist is any obstacle to this.

clegg was a athiest,he now claims to have found religion,funny blair did the same and they both have wifes that are in law,blair bought in the dreaded human rights and racsist bills which they both have made millions out of,clegg wants to sell us out completly to the eu,he made plenty in europe and cheated on his expenses even then,as for sandra gidley she is the one that tried to blame the police when doing their job just because a couple of bank robbers got shot oh dear were trhey surpose to just risk everyone and say;;oh please be good boys and put down your guns,she is,nt as marvellous as many think,to insist that the taxpayer paid all that money for bottled water when tap water is just as healthy in fact more so than bottled because it came from romsey,never mind we pay she never surgested that all politions stopped charging the tax payer for their food and drink and paid it out of their well paid wage and perks,did she object to the money that eastleigh want to waste on a hotel at the rose bowl of course not she would,nt have got much media coverage from that,maybe in eastleigh you should all give the english demorcrate a go,as hants really cant trust several lib dems and definatly not clegg

Facewagon wrote:

Bartonian wrote:

Facewagon wrote:

Bartonian wrote:

Facewagon wrote: Right... because a refusal to believe in fairy stories is a serious flaw in any candidate.

Another person who cannot justify what he has said. Go on, enlighten us.

I'd be delighted to, right after you justify your implication that being an atheist has any bearing whatsoever on an individual's fitness to govern. Go on, enlighten us.

Ok then. People, especially the young need to have a positive direction and the moral fabric of society, particularly in the U.S became eroded when the teachings of the Bible ceased to be taught in schools in the 1960s. People who have the Bible close to their hearts are much more outgoing and positive than those who aren't. It is a book that has stood the test of time for centuries. It predicted the restoration of Israel for starters, along with many other things. If it was false then it would have been discarded years ago.

Well, I agree totally about the need for a positive direction, but I disagree that you can only get this from releigious faith. I agree that some of the teachings in the Bible mark out a good path of moral guidance - although others are morally abhorrent - but I don't think this has anything to do with the book they're in as opposed to what they say. A crude example: "thou shalt not kill" is good advice in itself - it doesn't get its value purely from its status as a command from God. We should also not forget that while many who have the Bible close to their hearts many be positive and outgoing, there are also many others who are hateful and corrupt. The current endless stream of Catholic child-rape cases should make that obvious enough! In my opinion an ideal candidate would have a strong sense of morality (for what good it would do), but I don't think being an atheist is any obstacle to this.

I would just like to inform you that I go to an Elim Church. Religion started when the church was taken over by the state. Catholocism distorted the teachings of the word for their own desires. I hate the Roman Catholic Church for it's doctrine and it's corruption, in as much as I hate all other state-run religions. Islam teaches hatrid in the Koran, especially towards Jews. I have attended groups that are free of all state interference, particularly the decaying C of E. Don't confuse the church and state to what was originally gatherings amongst individuals.

cmth40 wrote:
clegg was a athiest,he now claims to have found religion,funny blair did the same and they both have wifes that are in law,blair bought in the dreaded human rights and racsist bills which they both have made millions out of,clegg wants to sell us out completly to the eu,he made plenty in europe and cheated on his expenses even then,as for sandra gidley she is the one that tried to blame the police when doing their job just because a couple of bank robbers got shot oh dear were trhey surpose to just risk everyone and say;;oh please be good boys and put down your guns,she is,nt as marvellous as many think,to insist that the taxpayer paid all that money for bottled water when tap water is just as healthy in fact more so than bottled because it came from romsey,never mind we pay she never surgested that all politions stopped charging the tax payer for their food and drink and paid it out of their well paid wage and perks,did she object to the money that eastleigh want to waste on a hotel at the rose bowl of course not she would,nt have got much media coverage from that,maybe in eastleigh you should all give the english demorcrate a go,as hants really cant trust several lib dems and definatly not clegg

Gosh, not even a full stop at the end.
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Is this the longest ever unfinished sentence seen on the Echo website?
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A first plug for the "english demorcrate" ..
.. and they say educational standards in English are not declining.

Bartonian wrote:

Facewagon wrote:

Bartonian wrote:

Facewagon wrote:

Bartonian wrote:

Facewagon wrote: Right... because a refusal to believe in fairy stories is a serious flaw in any candidate.

Another person who cannot justify what he has said. Go on, enlighten us.

I'd be delighted to, right after you justify your implication that being an atheist has any bearing whatsoever on an individual's fitness to govern. Go on, enlighten us.

Ok then. People, especially the young need to have a positive direction and the moral fabric of society, particularly in the U.S became eroded when the teachings of the Bible ceased to be taught in schools in the 1960s. People who have the Bible close to their hearts are much more outgoing and positive than those who aren't. It is a book that has stood the test of time for centuries. It predicted the restoration of Israel for starters, along with many other things. If it was false then it would have been discarded years ago.

Well, I agree totally about the need for a positive direction, but I disagree that you can only get this from releigious faith. I agree that some of the teachings in the Bible mark out a good path of moral guidance - although others are morally abhorrent - but I don't think this has anything to do with the book they're in as opposed to what they say. A crude example: "thou shalt not kill" is good advice in itself - it doesn't get its value purely from its status as a command from God. We should also not forget that while many who have the Bible close to their hearts many be positive and outgoing, there are also many others who are hateful and corrupt. The current endless stream of Catholic child-rape cases should make that obvious enough! In my opinion an ideal candidate would have a strong sense of morality (for what good it would do), but I don't think being an atheist is any obstacle to this.

I would just like to inform you that I go to an Elim Church. Religion started when the church was taken over by the state. Catholocism distorted the teachings of the word for their own desires. I hate the Roman Catholic Church for it's doctrine and it's corruption, in as much as I hate all other state-run religions. Islam teaches hatrid in the Koran, especially towards Jews. I have attended groups that are free of all state interference, particularly the decaying C of E. Don't confuse the church and state to what was originally gatherings amongst individuals.

So, Bartonian, according to the website of this Elim sub-splinter of one partricular twig of the dying tree of christianity, you apparently "believe the Bible, as originally given, to be without error, the fully inspired and infallible Word of God and the supreme and final authority in all matters of faith and conduct."
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And you want us to take you seriously?

freefinker wrote:

Bartonian wrote:

Facewagon wrote:

Bartonian wrote:

Facewagon wrote:

Bartonian wrote:

Facewagon wrote: Right... because a refusal to believe in fairy stories is a serious flaw in any candidate.

Another person who cannot justify what he has said. Go on, enlighten us.

I'd be delighted to, right after you justify your implication that being an atheist has any bearing whatsoever on an individual's fitness to govern. Go on, enlighten us.

Ok then. People, especially the young need to have a positive direction and the moral fabric of society, particularly in the U.S became eroded when the teachings of the Bible ceased to be taught in schools in the 1960s. People who have the Bible close to their hearts are much more outgoing and positive than those who aren't. It is a book that has stood the test of time for centuries. It predicted the restoration of Israel for starters, along with many other things. If it was false then it would have been discarded years ago.

Well, I agree totally about the need for a positive direction, but I disagree that you can only get this from releigious faith. I agree that some of the teachings in the Bible mark out a good path of moral guidance - although others are morally abhorrent - but I don't think this has anything to do with the book they're in as opposed to what they say. A crude example: "thou shalt not kill" is good advice in itself - it doesn't get its value purely from its status as a command from God. We should also not forget that while many who have the Bible close to their hearts many be positive and outgoing, there are also many others who are hateful and corrupt. The current endless stream of Catholic child-rape cases should make that obvious enough! In my opinion an ideal candidate would have a strong sense of morality (for what good it would do), but I don't think being an atheist is any obstacle to this.

I would just like to inform you that I go to an Elim Church. Religion started when the church was taken over by the state. Catholocism distorted the teachings of the word for their own desires. I hate the Roman Catholic Church for it's doctrine and it's corruption, in as much as I hate all other state-run religions. Islam teaches hatrid in the Koran, especially towards Jews. I have attended groups that are free of all state interference, particularly the decaying C of E. Don't confuse the church and state to what was originally gatherings amongst individuals.

So, Bartonian, according to the website of this Elim sub-splinter of one partricular twig of the dying tree of christianity, you apparently "believe the Bible, as originally given, to be without error, the fully inspired and infallible Word of God and the supreme and final authority in all matters of faith and conduct." . And you want us to take you seriously?

Oh get over it. I couldn't really care less with hacks like you. If you want to insult me then that's your choice. You must have small man's syndrome.

So, Bartonian, it's insulting to point out to others what you believe in?
I thought you would be pleased for me to enlighten others about the cult you follow.
But then I suppose it must be very embarrassing to believe in such childish and ridiculous fantasies.
What a very strange person you are.