Tories ousted in city election

Daily Echo: Labour sweep to power in Southampton Labour sweep to power in Southampton

Labour swept back to power in Southampton in a stunning election victory today.

Labour gained 11 seats taking a majority control of the council for first time in more than a decade.

As the final declaration came in just after 2am, Labour councillors and supporters gathered to chant out their new number of elected members - 30.

The result decides who will run the city council for the next two years, as there are no elections next year.

After a bitter election fight Labour councillors, backed by a union campaign, were confident of snatching power from the Tories who have run civic affairs for the past four years.

Labour leader Richard Williams, who held his Woolston seat, said: “It's a great night. I'm just relieved and pleased. We worked hard and spoke to over 30,000 people.

“A great deal were unhappy about the way the city has become a mess and seemed to be voting on a national level on issues around the economy."

Dejected Tory leader Royston Smith said: "It's a very disappointing night. But you only have to look at the results from the last few years to know the result was not especially surprising.

“We clearly laid out our programme and theirs (Labour) doesn't stack up. We couldn't have worked harder."

He said a public backlash against the strikes over pay cuts last summer was a "red herring".

Eighteen seats across all 16 wards were being contested, with double headers due to resignations in Bitterne Park, won by the Tories, and Peartree, won by Labour.

Labour, who had 19 councillors, needed to hold two seats and gain six to take overall control of the council for the first time since 1999.

They romped to victory with 11 gains, taking ten seats from the Tories and one former Lib Dem seat.

Conservatives, who swept to power for the first time in 24 years the last time the same seats were contested in 2008, held 25 of the 48 seats on the council, a majority of just one going into the count. They are now down to seat sixteen seats.

Lib Dems remain on two seats.

Conservative city mayor Terry Matthews was left red faced after losing his seat by 351 votes to Labour’s Mark Chaloner.

Labour youngster Dan Jeffery, 22, took the Tory’s seat in Sholing, where jet set former councillor Neil Fitzgerald stood down after landing a cruise job in Los Angeles in January year, but continued to claim his allowances and represent residents while living 5,000 miles away.

Among its other gains Labour also took Coxford and Redbridge, giving them a full complement of three councillors in each ward.

Millbrook was won by Georgie Laming, who became the youngest ever female city councillor aged just 19.

The Solent University student was jubilant. "We put a lot of hard work into the ward for three or four years. I'm glad it's all paid off. I'm delighted."

In Bevois, Labour’s respected former finance spokesman Stephen Barnes-Andrews retained his seat but will serve on the backbenches.

Tory young gun David Fuller, who was elected as a Itchen College student aged 18 four years ago, lost his Bitterne seat to Labour’s Mary Lloyd.

The Tory's leisure and finance boss, councillor John Hannides, held Bassett comfortably, with nearly half of the vote. Councillor Ivan White, the Tory’s adult heath boss and a party chief in Itchen, also held his seat in Bitterne Park.

Outgoing council leader Cllr Smith was spared a loss in his own backyard. Edward Daunt held off a Labour challenge to his Harefield seat by 142 votes.

The next leader of the council will be elected to the £30,000 a year post on May 16, when the new Cabinet will also be confirmed.

The task of dealing with an estimated £46m budget black hole over the next two years will then begin.

Labour have promised no more redundancies at the council and to restore staff pay cuts brought in by the Tories last summer in a bid to avoid even more lay offs.

The cuts sparked rolling strikes by bin men and street cleaners that left rubbish piling up in the city for 12 weeks last summer.

Labour, led by councillor Williams, are also promising more jobs and housing to spur growth and a new Southampton festival this September.

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10:59pm Thu 3 May 12

OceansofRed says...

BBC says low turnout
BBC says low turnout OceansofRed
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11:14pm Thu 3 May 12

teamgreen says...

its because the dont trust the lying scumbags anymore.
its because the dont trust the lying scumbags anymore. teamgreen
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12:12am Fri 4 May 12

OceansofRed says...

Labour take Bitterne by 200.
Labour take Bitterne by 200. OceansofRed
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2:21am Fri 4 May 12

Over the Edge says...

There you go George4th , loosehead, Condorman and the like, the people of city have spoken, carry on supporting a loser, 1st Royston loses the race for the Itchen constituency and 2nd he loses the control of the council.

One is not gloating, but the words I told you so comes to mind.

Goodnight.
There you go George4th , loosehead, Condorman and the like, the people of city have spoken, carry on supporting a loser, 1st Royston loses the race for the Itchen constituency and 2nd he loses the control of the council. One is not gloating, but the words I told you so comes to mind. Goodnight. Over the Edge
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2:43am Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

What is worse for the Tory's is that it was Tory voters that won most of the seats for Labour.
Very poor turn out.
What is worse for the Tory's is that it was Tory voters that won most of the seats for Labour. Very poor turn out. southy
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2:48am Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.
wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs. southy
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2:52am Fri 4 May 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

Hi Peter
What are the voting figuers for Redbridge?
Have you overtaken Lib-Dems or not?
Hi Peter What are the voting figuers for Redbridge? Have you overtaken Lib-Dems or not? Paramjit Bahia
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2:56am Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

over hauld the Lib/dems, 3 place every ones votes where down apart from mine, I have gone from 6% to 8% of the votes.
You can see what is going to happen in 2 years time there will be a back lash against the Labour Party
over hauld the Lib/dems, 3 place every ones votes where down apart from mine, I have gone from 6% to 8% of the votes. You can see what is going to happen in 2 years time there will be a back lash against the Labour Party southy
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2:57am Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

TUSC results for Southampton.

BARGATE SHARON CUTLER 82 4%
Bassett Neil Kelly 62 2%
Bevois Andrew Howe 63/2%
Bitterne Perry McMillan 77/3%
Bitterne Park Nick Chaffey 136/2%
Coxford Tim Cutter 57 2%
Harefield Graham O'Reilly 75 2%
Peartree Josh Asker 139 2%
Portswood David Rawlinson 50 2%
Redbridge Pete Wyatt 220 8%
Swaythling Kev Hayes 76 3%
Shirley Mike King 52 2%
Woolston Gavin Marsh 138 5%

Total 1227
TUSC results for Southampton. BARGATE SHARON CUTLER 82 4% Bassett Neil Kelly 62 2% Bevois Andrew Howe 63/2% Bitterne Perry McMillan 77/3% Bitterne Park Nick Chaffey 136/2% Coxford Tim Cutter 57 2% Harefield Graham O'Reilly 75 2% Peartree Josh Asker 139 2% Portswood David Rawlinson 50 2% Redbridge Pete Wyatt 220 8% Swaythling Kev Hayes 76 3% Shirley Mike King 52 2% Woolston Gavin Marsh 138 5% Total 1227 southy
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3:00am Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

Torys only won 5 seats, Labour won 13 seats.
Labour has got to deliver or there will be hell to pay.
Torys only won 5 seats, Labour won 13 seats. Labour has got to deliver or there will be hell to pay. southy
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3:02am Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

To give you an Idea how low the turn out was, Last year it was 5-30 am before we left the civic center this year it was all over about 2-15 am
To give you an Idea how low the turn out was, Last year it was 5-30 am before we left the civic center this year it was all over about 2-15 am southy
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3:18am Fri 4 May 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

Thanks mate.
You are right about what NuLabour will do in power.
I am glad you have climbed one more step by overhauling Lib-Dems.
Rome was not built in a day. So keep up the good work.
Thanks mate. You are right about what NuLabour will do in power. I am glad you have climbed one more step by overhauling Lib-Dems. Rome was not built in a day. So keep up the good work. Paramjit Bahia
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3:26am Fri 4 May 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

Considering Southy has managed to not only increase TUSC's share of the vote in Redbridge, which is one of NuLabour's strongest wards, but he has also pushed Liberal Democrats into third place, I hope should be sufficient to shut those up who keep on ridiculing him on this website.
Considering Southy has managed to not only increase TUSC's share of the vote in Redbridge, which is one of NuLabour's strongest wards, but he has also pushed Liberal Democrats into third place, I hope should be sufficient to shut those up who keep on ridiculing him on this website. Paramjit Bahia
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3:37am Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

no way Paramjit they are making me more popular :-)
no way Paramjit they are making me more popular :-) southy
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3:39am Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

We lost Dave Nellist in Coventry he came second lost by 204 votes to Labour
We lost Dave Nellist in Coventry he came second lost by 204 votes to Labour southy
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3:41am Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

Just having a quick look at the turn out around the country most are below 30%
Just having a quick look at the turn out around the country most are below 30% southy
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3:43am Fri 4 May 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

Cllr. Richard Williams led NuLabour gaining control of Southampton Council is hardly any surprise, nor will it be any new shock when these NuLabourites behave in office more or less same way as the Tories they have just replaced
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While overall vote of TUSC is disappointing, I am glad Southy has managed to overtake Lib-Dem in Redbridge.
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Anyway Tories are out but sadly their policies needed to be thrown out as well. Unfortunately I can’t imagine that happening under Cllr. Williams and his colleagues
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NuLabour run Council will only do what has become natural habit of their party: They will break all their promises, won’t treat the workers well, will cut our services. And unlike Smith who was at least open and honest about his party’s nastiness, new Leader Williams will do no such thing. He will keep on throwing out meaningless sound bites to suit every occasion. Flip Flopping seem to have become his speciality and we will watch that inconsistency in action
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Having heard Cllr. Royston Smith on BBC radio I want to give him the credit for being man enough to get counted for his record in office, he did not make any excuses or blame others for his party’s defeat. Which I believe was well deserved kick on Tory back side
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In democracy we get what majority wishes for through the ballot box. That majority has decided to only change personalities, I wish it was vote for changing policies, because that is what our city needs
Cllr. Richard Williams led NuLabour gaining control of Southampton Council is hardly any surprise, nor will it be any new shock when these NuLabourites behave in office more or less same way as the Tories they have just replaced . While overall vote of TUSC is disappointing, I am glad Southy has managed to overtake Lib-Dem in Redbridge. . Anyway Tories are out but sadly their policies needed to be thrown out as well. Unfortunately I can’t imagine that happening under Cllr. Williams and his colleagues . NuLabour run Council will only do what has become natural habit of their party: They will break all their promises, won’t treat the workers well, will cut our services. And unlike Smith who was at least open and honest about his party’s nastiness, new Leader Williams will do no such thing. He will keep on throwing out meaningless sound bites to suit every occasion. Flip Flopping seem to have become his speciality and we will watch that inconsistency in action . Having heard Cllr. Royston Smith on BBC radio I want to give him the credit for being man enough to get counted for his record in office, he did not make any excuses or blame others for his party’s defeat. Which I believe was well deserved kick on Tory back side . In democracy we get what majority wishes for through the ballot box. That majority has decided to only change personalities, I wish it was vote for changing policies, because that is what our city needs Paramjit Bahia
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3:46am Fri 4 May 12

AdamSFC says...

Brilliant news, lets hope they can do a good job. Southampton back under Labour like it should be AND Saints back where they should be!
Brilliant news, lets hope they can do a good job. Southampton back under Labour like it should be AND Saints back where they should be! AdamSFC
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3:47am Fri 4 May 12

sid for the people says...

The people have spoken Royston, we told you your cut will not work, you have destroyed this city due to your arrogance. Here's to be better stronger City. I'm one happy chappie this wonderful morning.
The people have spoken Royston, we told you your cut will not work, you have destroyed this city due to your arrogance. Here's to be better stronger City. I'm one happy chappie this wonderful morning. sid for the people
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3:50am Fri 4 May 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

southy wrote:
We lost Dave Nellist in Coventry he came second lost by 204 votes to Labour
That is most disappointing news. Dave works very hard. But NuLabour had thrown all their resources from national office against him.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: We lost Dave Nellist in Coventry he came second lost by 204 votes to Labour[/p][/quote]That is most disappointing news. Dave works very hard. But NuLabour had thrown all their resources from national office against him. Paramjit Bahia
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3:56am Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

Anti-Cuts Cllr Richard Bertin re-elected to the Vale of Glamorgan
Anti-Cuts Cllr Richard Bertin re-elected to the Vale of Glamorgan southy
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5:26am Fri 4 May 12

Lambo1976 says...

See you in the club house Royston! Ha-ha.
to be honest they are all as bad as each other until they get the politically correct party sorted nothing will ever change!
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See you in the club house Royston! Ha-ha. to be honest they are all as bad as each other until they get the politically correct party sorted nothing will ever change! TIRED OF YOUR JOB. Sick of working 40 hours a week just to feed your family????? Would you like to relax all day and still have all the benefits of a full time job? If you answered yes to any of these questions then you should consider a move to ENGLAND THE WELFARE COUNTRY!! If you qualify (and only working people don't) you can receive the following; FREE HOUSING, FREE UTILITIES, FREE FOOD, FREE MEDICAL SERVICES, FREE TRANSPORT, FREE LEGAL SERVICES. This programme is not limited to 3 or 6 months like most other countries. In England you can collect for life . Some of our families have received Benefits for 2 or 3 generations. So if you want to receive all of the above without working for a living contact the BERNEFITS ANGENCY. ENGLAND, THE COUNTRY WHERE ONLY SUCKERS WORK!. Lambo1976
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5:29am Fri 4 May 12

On the inside says...

The way the tories campaigned on a personal not political basis especially in Woolston was unacceptable they deserve to have their personal lives and that of their wifes and children disssected, abused , and villified. They are deserve to be trodden into the dust. No more mr nice guy politics for tory scum.
The way the tories campaigned on a personal not political basis especially in Woolston was unacceptable they deserve to have their personal lives and that of their wifes and children disssected, abused , and villified. They are deserve to be trodden into the dust. No more mr nice guy politics for tory scum. On the inside
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5:36am Fri 4 May 12

Maine Lobster says...

Royston Smith has paid the price for arrogance and deceipt. Any politician who wages war on the workers of its city, with all the influence those employees and their families have at the ballot box, has to be blind,stupid and too misled by their own self created legacy of misery. Royston Smith, you got what you deserved.
Royston Smith has paid the price for arrogance and deceipt. Any politician who wages war on the workers of its city, with all the influence those employees and their families have at the ballot box, has to be blind,stupid and too misled by their own self created legacy of misery. Royston Smith, you got what you deserved. Maine Lobster
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6:43am Fri 4 May 12

THE BRICK says...

Maine Lobster wrote:
Royston Smith has paid the price for arrogance and deceipt. Any politician who wages war on the workers of its city, with all the influence those employees and their families have at the ballot box, has to be blind,stupid and too misled by their own self created legacy of misery. Royston Smith, you got what you deserved.
Quite agree!! The man is an idiot, a rich one at that, he didn't care whatsoever about the city, he didn't care about the staff who did the job for him just cared about his political ambitions. He will now go on and stand against one of the Labour MP's as he did before. But I would think he has no chance any more.

The man is a vicious nasty employer who cares nothing for the people just the money, I know, I was one of his victims!
[quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: Royston Smith has paid the price for arrogance and deceipt. Any politician who wages war on the workers of its city, with all the influence those employees and their families have at the ballot box, has to be blind,stupid and too misled by their own self created legacy of misery. Royston Smith, you got what you deserved.[/p][/quote]Quite agree!! The man is an idiot, a rich one at that, he didn't care whatsoever about the city, he didn't care about the staff who did the job for him just cared about his political ambitions. He will now go on and stand against one of the Labour MP's as he did before. But I would think he has no chance any more. The man is a vicious nasty employer who cares nothing for the people just the money, I know, I was one of his victims! THE BRICK
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6:51am Fri 4 May 12

MisterGrimsdale says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Considering Southy has managed to not only increase TUSC's share of the vote in Redbridge, which is one of NuLabour's strongest wards, but he has also pushed Liberal Democrats into third place, I hope should be sufficient to shut those up who keep on ridiculing him on this website.
I thought you always said you didn't support labour, now here you are doing a funny little dance. Make your mind up.
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: Considering Southy has managed to not only increase TUSC's share of the vote in Redbridge, which is one of NuLabour's strongest wards, but he has also pushed Liberal Democrats into third place, I hope should be sufficient to shut those up who keep on ridiculing him on this website.[/p][/quote]I thought you always said you didn't support labour, now here you are doing a funny little dance. Make your mind up. MisterGrimsdale
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7:01am Fri 4 May 12

loosehead says...

So blackmail does work!
What a sad day to be a Southampton resident.
Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories
So blackmail does work! What a sad day to be a Southampton resident. Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories loosehead
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7:02am Fri 4 May 12

Totton Ric says...

Mmmm, not so sure of all these Labour gains across Britain after all it was there years of overspending that’s got us in the sxxt, No matter What Government took over after Labour we STILL would have had major cutbacks or this Country WOULD of gone the way of Greece & possible Bankrupt , it’s a lose-lose situation for the Joint Government, “Making cutbacks=voting Labour” or could have been “Labour still in power=Bankrupt Britain”!!!!
Mmmm, not so sure of all these Labour gains across Britain after all it was there years of overspending that’s got us in the sxxt, No matter What Government took over after Labour we STILL would have had major cutbacks or this Country WOULD of gone the way of Greece & possible Bankrupt , it’s a lose-lose situation for the Joint Government, “Making cutbacks=voting Labour” or could have been “Labour still in power=Bankrupt Britain”!!!! Totton Ric
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7:06am Fri 4 May 12

Condor Man says...

Ah, the return of Rayment, Burke, Williams and Jenks. Watch spending spiral and Council Tax rise in the next year.
Ah, the return of Rayment, Burke, Williams and Jenks. Watch spending spiral and Council Tax rise in the next year. Condor Man
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7:14am Fri 4 May 12

loosehead says...

southy wrote:
wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.
Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts.
Can't wait to see the unions love affair end.
If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric,
Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them.
the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power.
I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us.
We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.[/p][/quote]Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts. Can't wait to see the unions love affair end. If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric, Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them. the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power. I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us. We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away loosehead
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7:18am Fri 4 May 12

Portswoodfoke says...

Congrats to Labour for winning, really hate you but fairs fair if thats what the public want. Will like to see what they do with all the cuts and their union pals, life in power is going to be very different from life in moaning opposition.

Hear Portswood has stayed Tory, GOOD.

Voter apathy on all sides is pathetic, politicians of all sides must raise turnout.
Congrats to Labour for winning, really hate you but fairs fair if thats what the public want. Will like to see what they do with all the cuts and their union pals, life in power is going to be very different from life in moaning opposition. Hear Portswood has stayed Tory, GOOD. Voter apathy on all sides is pathetic, politicians of all sides must raise turnout. Portswoodfoke
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7:21am Fri 4 May 12

bigfella777 says...

sid for the people wrote:
The people have spoken Royston, we told you your cut will not work, you have destroyed this city due to your arrogance. Here's to be better stronger City. I'm one happy chappie this wonderful morning.
Where's the money going to come from then?
[quote][p][bold]sid for the people[/bold] wrote: The people have spoken Royston, we told you your cut will not work, you have destroyed this city due to your arrogance. Here's to be better stronger City. I'm one happy chappie this wonderful morning.[/p][/quote]Where's the money going to come from then? bigfella777
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7:26am Fri 4 May 12

freemantlegirl2 says...

loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.
Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts.
Can't wait to see the unions love affair end.
If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric,
Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them.
the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power.
I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us.
We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away
i'd have a long way to go before I caught up with all your Royston stroking and rhetoric. as I keep saying, it's not actually the local authorities' faults that they've had this enormous cut in revenue. However, the way it's been managed in Southampton with huge contracts still up for grabs and huge sums of money spent on that isn't right.

My new Labour councillor has assured me they are against Biomass too so not sure where you got that one from! However, even if they were for it, I would still have voted the same way because I think it's the best way of protecting the vulnerable in this city. my own personal loss (although I have 2 very vulnerable youngsters and they are my first priority) is nothing compared to that of people who've had their homes taken away, unemployment at an all time high for youngsters, and crazy building schemes that benefit noone except the developers....

I'm just glad we don't have June Bridle any more as that woman was a nightmare as is Adrian Vinson!
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.[/p][/quote]Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts. Can't wait to see the unions love affair end. If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric, Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them. the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power. I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us. We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away[/p][/quote]i'd have a long way to go before I caught up with all your Royston stroking and rhetoric. as I keep saying, it's not actually the local authorities' faults that they've had this enormous cut in revenue. However, the way it's been managed in Southampton with huge contracts still up for grabs and huge sums of money spent on that isn't right. My new Labour councillor has assured me they are against Biomass too so not sure where you got that one from! However, even if they were for it, I would still have voted the same way because I think it's the best way of protecting the vulnerable in this city. my own personal loss (although I have 2 very vulnerable youngsters and they are my first priority) is nothing compared to that of people who've had their homes taken away, unemployment at an all time high for youngsters, and crazy building schemes that benefit noone except the developers.... I'm just glad we don't have June Bridle any more as that woman was a nightmare as is Adrian Vinson! freemantlegirl2
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7:30am Fri 4 May 12

Over the Edge says...

loosehead wrote:
So blackmail does work!
What a sad day to be a Southampton resident.
Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories
Blackmail clearly doesn't work,,,,Royston lost control of the city,,,,take a pay cut, do the same job for less money or lose your jobs,,now that's blackmail and it cost Royston and Tories the control of the council.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So blackmail does work! What a sad day to be a Southampton resident. Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories[/p][/quote]Blackmail clearly doesn't work,,,,Royston lost control of the city,,,,take a pay cut, do the same job for less money or lose your jobs,,now that's blackmail and it cost Royston and Tories the control of the council. Over the Edge
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7:33am Fri 4 May 12

joenice1 says...

Bugger!!

I guess this means more tax on us to help pay for all these things.

I beg Labour to be more sensible and only spend money available and do not get in more dept. Please!!!!!!!!!!
Bugger!! I guess this means more tax on us to help pay for all these things. I beg Labour to be more sensible and only spend money available and do not get in more dept. Please!!!!!!!!!! joenice1
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7:55am Fri 4 May 12

ourcoalition says...

Congratulations from Brighton and Hove UNISON - we ousted the Tories last year, so very pleased to see your result!
Congratulations from Brighton and Hove UNISON - we ousted the Tories last year, so very pleased to see your result! ourcoalition
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8:04am Fri 4 May 12

grumpy and middle aged says...

Message to the Labour councillors.

I am working class in the private sector & union member. I cant afford a raise in council tax, look after me not those who sit on their **** all day.
Message to the Labour councillors. I am working class in the private sector & union member. I cant afford a raise in council tax, look after me not those who sit on their **** all day. grumpy and middle aged
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8:19am Fri 4 May 12

loosehead says...

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.
Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts.
Can't wait to see the unions love affair end.
If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric,
Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them.
the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power.
I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us.
We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away
i'd have a long way to go before I caught up with all your Royston stroking and rhetoric. as I keep saying, it's not actually the local authorities' faults that they've had this enormous cut in revenue. However, the way it's been managed in Southampton with huge contracts still up for grabs and huge sums of money spent on that isn't right.

My new Labour councillor has assured me they are against Biomass too so not sure where you got that one from! However, even if they were for it, I would still have voted the same way because I think it's the best way of protecting the vulnerable in this city. my own personal loss (although I have 2 very vulnerable youngsters and they are my first priority) is nothing compared to that of people who've had their homes taken away, unemployment at an all time high for youngsters, and crazy building schemes that benefit noone except the developers....

I'm just glad we don't have June Bridle any more as that woman was a nightmare as is Adrian Vinson!
Are you forgetting Don Thomas's words?
I hope your not as gullible as you sound in the above article!
Labour have said whatever it took to get votes & the people have fallen for it.
Let's all go the way of Greece or Spain become bankrupt & then see what happens to the vulnerable in society?
Greece a great big socialist country yet you see people losing their homes & living on the streets in droves is that what socialism will bring?
[quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.[/p][/quote]Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts. Can't wait to see the unions love affair end. If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric, Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them. the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power. I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us. We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away[/p][/quote]i'd have a long way to go before I caught up with all your Royston stroking and rhetoric. as I keep saying, it's not actually the local authorities' faults that they've had this enormous cut in revenue. However, the way it's been managed in Southampton with huge contracts still up for grabs and huge sums of money spent on that isn't right. My new Labour councillor has assured me they are against Biomass too so not sure where you got that one from! However, even if they were for it, I would still have voted the same way because I think it's the best way of protecting the vulnerable in this city. my own personal loss (although I have 2 very vulnerable youngsters and they are my first priority) is nothing compared to that of people who've had their homes taken away, unemployment at an all time high for youngsters, and crazy building schemes that benefit noone except the developers.... I'm just glad we don't have June Bridle any more as that woman was a nightmare as is Adrian Vinson![/p][/quote]Are you forgetting Don Thomas's words? I hope your not as gullible as you sound in the above article! Labour have said whatever it took to get votes & the people have fallen for it. Let's all go the way of Greece or Spain become bankrupt & then see what happens to the vulnerable in society? Greece a great big socialist country yet you see people losing their homes & living on the streets in droves is that what socialism will bring? loosehead
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8:23am Fri 4 May 12

Taskforce 141 says...

Bye Bye Royston, dont let the door hit you on the way out!
Bye Bye Royston, dont let the door hit you on the way out! Taskforce 141
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8:24am Fri 4 May 12

loosehead says...

Over the Edge wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So blackmail does work!
What a sad day to be a Southampton resident.
Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories
Blackmail clearly doesn't work,,,,Royston lost control of the city,,,,take a pay cut, do the same job for less money or lose your jobs,,now that's blackmail and it cost Royston and Tories the control of the council.
Sorry but to say Vote Labour or we'll continue to strike doesn't sound anything like take a pay cut & we can save as many jobs as possible so are you really that thick?
I will have the last laugh as I know as well as all the Labour party members the lies they've used will come back to bite them in the bum.
two years next year 1-10 job cuts in refuse next year tax increases of at least £10-£15 a month I wonder who will gain votes then?
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So blackmail does work! What a sad day to be a Southampton resident. Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories[/p][/quote]Blackmail clearly doesn't work,,,,Royston lost control of the city,,,,take a pay cut, do the same job for less money or lose your jobs,,now that's blackmail and it cost Royston and Tories the control of the council.[/p][/quote]Sorry but to say Vote Labour or we'll continue to strike doesn't sound anything like take a pay cut & we can save as many jobs as possible so are you really that thick? I will have the last laugh as I know as well as all the Labour party members the lies they've used will come back to bite them in the bum. two years next year 1-10 job cuts in refuse next year tax increases of at least £10-£15 a month I wonder who will gain votes then? loosehead
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8:26am Fri 4 May 12

loosehead says...

Taskforce 141 wrote:
Bye Bye Royston, dont let the door hit you on the way out!
Can't wait to see the door slam in your face & wake you up from your daydream.
As the Jam said the public vote for what the public want! but do they actually know what they're getting?
If your anything to go by the answer is NO
[quote][p][bold]Taskforce 141[/bold] wrote: Bye Bye Royston, dont let the door hit you on the way out![/p][/quote]Can't wait to see the door slam in your face & wake you up from your daydream. As the Jam said the public vote for what the public want! but do they actually know what they're getting? If your anything to go by the answer is NO loosehead
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8:27am Fri 4 May 12

ohmywell says...

Where's George4th now. hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahaha
Cant wait to see what garbage he's going to spout now. Kn*b
Where's George4th now. hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahaha Cant wait to see what garbage he's going to spout now. Kn*b ohmywell
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8:28am Fri 4 May 12

freemantlegirl2 says...

loosehead wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.
Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts.
Can't wait to see the unions love affair end.
If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric,
Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them.
the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power.
I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us.
We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away
i'd have a long way to go before I caught up with all your Royston stroking and rhetoric. as I keep saying, it's not actually the local authorities' faults that they've had this enormous cut in revenue. However, the way it's been managed in Southampton with huge contracts still up for grabs and huge sums of money spent on that isn't right.

My new Labour councillor has assured me they are against Biomass too so not sure where you got that one from! However, even if they were for it, I would still have voted the same way because I think it's the best way of protecting the vulnerable in this city. my own personal loss (although I have 2 very vulnerable youngsters and they are my first priority) is nothing compared to that of people who've had their homes taken away, unemployment at an all time high for youngsters, and crazy building schemes that benefit noone except the developers....

I'm just glad we don't have June Bridle any more as that woman was a nightmare as is Adrian Vinson!
Are you forgetting Don Thomas's words?
I hope your not as gullible as you sound in the above article!
Labour have said whatever it took to get votes & the people have fallen for it.
Let's all go the way of Greece or Spain become bankrupt & then see what happens to the vulnerable in society?
Greece a great big socialist country yet you see people losing their homes & living on the streets in droves is that what socialism will bring?
Don't worry lovie, I'll leave that to the idiots running the country to destroy Europe. the socialists look like getting power in France too.

As for being gullible, no that much is obvious that I'm not, after all I haven't swallowed any of Roy's basura that he spouts out with! get over it... the people have spoken! :p
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.[/p][/quote]Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts. Can't wait to see the unions love affair end. If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric, Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them. the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power. I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us. We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away[/p][/quote]i'd have a long way to go before I caught up with all your Royston stroking and rhetoric. as I keep saying, it's not actually the local authorities' faults that they've had this enormous cut in revenue. However, the way it's been managed in Southampton with huge contracts still up for grabs and huge sums of money spent on that isn't right. My new Labour councillor has assured me they are against Biomass too so not sure where you got that one from! However, even if they were for it, I would still have voted the same way because I think it's the best way of protecting the vulnerable in this city. my own personal loss (although I have 2 very vulnerable youngsters and they are my first priority) is nothing compared to that of people who've had their homes taken away, unemployment at an all time high for youngsters, and crazy building schemes that benefit noone except the developers.... I'm just glad we don't have June Bridle any more as that woman was a nightmare as is Adrian Vinson![/p][/quote]Are you forgetting Don Thomas's words? I hope your not as gullible as you sound in the above article! Labour have said whatever it took to get votes & the people have fallen for it. Let's all go the way of Greece or Spain become bankrupt & then see what happens to the vulnerable in society? Greece a great big socialist country yet you see people losing their homes & living on the streets in droves is that what socialism will bring?[/p][/quote]Don't worry lovie, I'll leave that to the idiots running the country to destroy Europe. the socialists look like getting power in France too. As for being gullible, no that much is obvious that I'm not, after all I haven't swallowed any of Roy's basura that he spouts out with! get over it... the people have spoken! :p freemantlegirl2
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8:31am Fri 4 May 12

10 Minute Man says...

Oh well back to the council being run for the council's sake rather than the city's. Up the workers, stuff anyone else.

I wouldn't vote Tory nationally but locally I thought we were getting better leadership and direction than Southampton has had for years...
Oh well back to the council being run for the council's sake rather than the city's. Up the workers, stuff anyone else. I wouldn't vote Tory nationally but locally I thought we were getting better leadership and direction than Southampton has had for years... 10 Minute Man
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8:31am Fri 4 May 12

bigfella777 says...

The only winners out of this are binmen,now they can go back to their lazy ways.
The only winners out of this are binmen,now they can go back to their lazy ways. bigfella777
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8:36am Fri 4 May 12

huckit P says...

Ha! You will reap what you sow! In a years time you'll all be crying into your new and improved council tax bill. Improved because it will be much bigger than it is now. The money has to come from somewhere!
Ha! You will reap what you sow! In a years time you'll all be crying into your new and improved council tax bill. Improved because it will be much bigger than it is now. The money has to come from somewhere! huckit P
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8:38am Fri 4 May 12

Sir Hubert says...

Very glad to hear Labour are back - the only reason anyone tolerates the Tories is the assumption they know best how to manage the economy, which has be proven very wrong. People didn't turn out because they cannot see why they should have to pay for the mess caused by politicians (of all colours) and the banking system, (where banks have been given the power to effectively create money out of thin air AND gamble it away on whatever they like.) Hopefully Labour can think smart and find a better way. In the mean time, we the 99% underclass, are probably gonna have to pay more tax, I'm afraid, it we want to hold on to what we cherish.
Very glad to hear Labour are back - the only reason anyone tolerates the Tories is the assumption they know best how to manage the economy, which has be proven very wrong. People didn't turn out because they cannot see why they should have to pay for the mess caused by politicians (of all colours) and the banking system, (where banks have been given the power to effectively create money out of thin air AND gamble it away on whatever they like.) Hopefully Labour can think smart and find a better way. In the mean time, we the 99% underclass, are probably gonna have to pay more tax, I'm afraid, it we want to hold on to what we cherish. Sir Hubert
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8:42am Fri 4 May 12

Phantomdoll says...

I am very sorry about this result. As one of the "rich pensioners" Labour keeps banging on about I am dreading the rise in Council Tax, which will be inevitable now, and the loss of our modest discount. My husband and I (85 and 74 respectively) get about sixpence a week more than the threshold so we are not entitled to any benefits. And don't forget, if "rich pensioners" receive this modest Council Tax discount it means that they are not in receipt of any other welfare benefits. So we are costing the City and the country much less than those in receipt of full welfare benefits. We can also now look forward to fortnightly bin collections, and you Council workers had better make arrangement for your futures - because by the time the next local elections come round, about 2,000 of you will be jobless.
I am very sorry about this result. As one of the "rich pensioners" Labour keeps banging on about I am dreading the rise in Council Tax, which will be inevitable now, and the loss of our modest discount. My husband and I (85 and 74 respectively) get about sixpence a week more than the threshold so we are not entitled to any benefits. And don't forget, if "rich pensioners" receive this modest Council Tax discount it means that they are not in receipt of any other welfare benefits. So we are costing the City and the country much less than those in receipt of full welfare benefits. We can also now look forward to fortnightly bin collections, and you Council workers had better make arrangement for your futures - because by the time the next local elections come round, about 2,000 of you will be jobless. Phantomdoll
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8:47am Fri 4 May 12

insane saint says...

the tide is turning again pardon the puns but the blue end of the M27 have gone down so did the torries the saints who play in red have gone up and labour win.
mmmmm is there a link?
or was it time for change either way you could look at it in the same light the reds are going up.

well done all the reds in what doing what ever you do in southampton.
the tide is turning again pardon the puns but the blue end of the M27 have gone down so did the torries the saints who play in red have gone up and labour win. mmmmm is there a link? or was it time for change either way you could look at it in the same light the reds are going up. well done all the reds in what doing what ever you do in southampton. insane saint
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8:54am Fri 4 May 12

freemantlegirl2 says...

Phantomdoll wrote:
I am very sorry about this result. As one of the "rich pensioners" Labour keeps banging on about I am dreading the rise in Council Tax, which will be inevitable now, and the loss of our modest discount. My husband and I (85 and 74 respectively) get about sixpence a week more than the threshold so we are not entitled to any benefits. And don't forget, if "rich pensioners" receive this modest Council Tax discount it means that they are not in receipt of any other welfare benefits. So we are costing the City and the country much less than those in receipt of full welfare benefits. We can also now look forward to fortnightly bin collections, and you Council workers had better make arrangement for your futures - because by the time the next local elections come round, about 2,000 of you will be jobless.
I don't know why people keep going on about fortnightly rubbish collections, no-one has proposed this anywhere!

As for rise in CT, if it holds onto services for everyone, then so be it, although a modest, manageable rise is sensible. For those of you whingeing I suspect a rise i n CT will be the first time you have been hit by the austerity measures - surely we're all in this together?! seems some just want to tell us all that, but they don't want any effect on them! even Surrey council which is so Tory you could see blue everywhere, managed to see that a CT rise was the way to go and defied the government on it. Sadly, like someone's already said if we want to keep services we have to make up the shortfall to keep services going, making people unemployed doesn't!
[quote][p][bold]Phantomdoll[/bold] wrote: I am very sorry about this result. As one of the "rich pensioners" Labour keeps banging on about I am dreading the rise in Council Tax, which will be inevitable now, and the loss of our modest discount. My husband and I (85 and 74 respectively) get about sixpence a week more than the threshold so we are not entitled to any benefits. And don't forget, if "rich pensioners" receive this modest Council Tax discount it means that they are not in receipt of any other welfare benefits. So we are costing the City and the country much less than those in receipt of full welfare benefits. We can also now look forward to fortnightly bin collections, and you Council workers had better make arrangement for your futures - because by the time the next local elections come round, about 2,000 of you will be jobless.[/p][/quote]I don't know why people keep going on about fortnightly rubbish collections, no-one has proposed this anywhere! As for rise in CT, if it holds onto services for everyone, then so be it, although a modest, manageable rise is sensible. For those of you whingeing I suspect a rise i n CT will be the first time you have been hit by the austerity measures - surely we're all in this together?! seems some just want to tell us all that, but they don't want any effect on them! even Surrey council which is so Tory you could see blue everywhere, managed to see that a CT rise was the way to go and defied the government on it. Sadly, like someone's already said if we want to keep services we have to make up the shortfall to keep services going, making people unemployed doesn't! freemantlegirl2
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8:55am Fri 4 May 12

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
So blackmail does work!
What a sad day to be a Southampton resident.
Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories
Always nice to hear from a good loser who can accept defeat gracefully - what a pity you did not oblige.

A massive swing to Labour but, of course, you know best and the majority are wrong.

You appear to the the sort of person who, seeing their son marching, but out of step, with the Boy Scouts, would tell anyone who would listen, "Look at my son! He's the only one in step!"
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So blackmail does work! What a sad day to be a Southampton resident. Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories[/p][/quote]Always nice to hear from a good loser who can accept defeat gracefully - what a pity you did not oblige. A massive swing to Labour but, of course, you know best and the majority are wrong. You appear to the the sort of person who, seeing their son marching, but out of step, with the Boy Scouts, would tell anyone who would listen, "Look at my son! He's the only one in step!" Linesman
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8:56am Fri 4 May 12

Linesman says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So blackmail does work!
What a sad day to be a Southampton resident.
Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories
Always nice to hear from a good loser who can accept defeat gracefully - what a pity you did not oblige.

A massive swing to Labour but, of course, you know best and the majority are wrong.

You appear to the the sort of person who, seeing their son marching, but out of step, with the Boy Scouts, would tell anyone who would listen, "Look at my son! He's the only one in step!"
You have just witnessed DEMOCRACY AT WORK.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So blackmail does work! What a sad day to be a Southampton resident. Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories[/p][/quote]Always nice to hear from a good loser who can accept defeat gracefully - what a pity you did not oblige. A massive swing to Labour but, of course, you know best and the majority are wrong. You appear to the the sort of person who, seeing their son marching, but out of step, with the Boy Scouts, would tell anyone who would listen, "Look at my son! He's the only one in step!"[/p][/quote]You have just witnessed DEMOCRACY AT WORK. Linesman
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8:56am Fri 4 May 12

tootle says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Cllr. Richard Williams led NuLabour gaining control of Southampton Council is hardly any surprise, nor will it be any new shock when these NuLabourites behave in office more or less same way as the Tories they have just replaced
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While overall vote of TUSC is disappointing, I am glad Southy has managed to overtake Lib-Dem in Redbridge.
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Anyway Tories are out but sadly their policies needed to be thrown out as well. Unfortunately I can’t imagine that happening under Cllr. Williams and his colleagues
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NuLabour run Council will only do what has become natural habit of their party: They will break all their promises, won’t treat the workers well, will cut our services. And unlike Smith who was at least open and honest about his party’s nastiness, new Leader Williams will do no such thing. He will keep on throwing out meaningless sound bites to suit every occasion. Flip Flopping seem to have become his speciality and we will watch that inconsistency in action
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Having heard Cllr. Royston Smith on BBC radio I want to give him the credit for being man enough to get counted for his record in office, he did not make any excuses or blame others for his party’s defeat. Which I believe was well deserved kick on Tory back side
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In democracy we get what majority wishes for through the ballot box. That majority has decided to only change personalities, I wish it was vote for changing policies, because that is what our city needs
Well, what did we expect. The Conservatives didn't have a chance. Labour may or may not change policies but, unless they cut services drastically or put council tax up sharply it's not going to be any better. There is a need to engage people in politics if we wish ti live in a democracy(which we don't) - I had 3 election flyers, 1 tory, 1 labour both saying aren't we brilliant aren't they rubbish and an extra labour one which i didn't bother reading as it would have been no different to the other 2. These days unless one is interested and goes looks the first time you find out who is putting up is when you got to the polling station. Do these people want my vote or input - NO. Will they do anything good for me - NO! My Mother insisted the ONLY difference between Labour and the Tories is that they both promise you what you want, they both do what they want but Labour tell you it's for your own good while the Tories just do it. She preferred the Tories. Sadly Tories seem infected with the "it's for your own good syndrome" as well these days(in Central government at least.

Was talking to an independant who was planning for the independants to gain control of his local council, having had all independants who stood elected the previous time - how?, local people getting out and meeting local people and listening to local people and telling them the facts!. Wonders if they succeeded.
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: Cllr. Richard Williams led NuLabour gaining control of Southampton Council is hardly any surprise, nor will it be any new shock when these NuLabourites behave in office more or less same way as the Tories they have just replaced . While overall vote of TUSC is disappointing, I am glad Southy has managed to overtake Lib-Dem in Redbridge. . Anyway Tories are out but sadly their policies needed to be thrown out as well. Unfortunately I can’t imagine that happening under Cllr. Williams and his colleagues . NuLabour run Council will only do what has become natural habit of their party: They will break all their promises, won’t treat the workers well, will cut our services. And unlike Smith who was at least open and honest about his party’s nastiness, new Leader Williams will do no such thing. He will keep on throwing out meaningless sound bites to suit every occasion. Flip Flopping seem to have become his speciality and we will watch that inconsistency in action . Having heard Cllr. Royston Smith on BBC radio I want to give him the credit for being man enough to get counted for his record in office, he did not make any excuses or blame others for his party’s defeat. Which I believe was well deserved kick on Tory back side . In democracy we get what majority wishes for through the ballot box. That majority has decided to only change personalities, I wish it was vote for changing policies, because that is what our city needs[/p][/quote]Well, what did we expect. The Conservatives didn't have a chance. Labour may or may not change policies but, unless they cut services drastically or put council tax up sharply it's not going to be any better. There is a need to engage people in politics if we wish ti live in a democracy(which we don't) - I had 3 election flyers, 1 tory, 1 labour both saying aren't we brilliant aren't they rubbish and an extra labour one which i didn't bother reading as it would have been no different to the other 2. These days unless one is interested and goes looks the first time you find out who is putting up is when you got to the polling station. Do these people want my vote or input - NO. Will they do anything good for me - NO! My Mother insisted the ONLY difference between Labour and the Tories is that they both promise you what you want, they both do what they want but Labour tell you it's for your own good while the Tories just do it. She preferred the Tories. Sadly Tories seem infected with the "it's for your own good syndrome" as well these days(in Central government at least. Was talking to an independant who was planning for the independants to gain control of his local council, having had all independants who stood elected the previous time - how?, local people getting out and meeting local people and listening to local people and telling them the facts!. Wonders if they succeeded. tootle
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9:11am Fri 4 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

loosehead wrote:
So blackmail does work!
What a sad day to be a Southampton resident.
Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories
Can you explain this blackmail accusation? If there has been any sort of criminal activity it is your duty to present the evidence to the authorities, I am happy if the Labour victory was done by democratic voting, but if there has been any illegal activity we should be told, or is this just knee jerk reaction from a bad loser?
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So blackmail does work! What a sad day to be a Southampton resident. Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories[/p][/quote]Can you explain this blackmail accusation? If there has been any sort of criminal activity it is your duty to present the evidence to the authorities, I am happy if the Labour victory was done by democratic voting, but if there has been any illegal activity we should be told, or is this just knee jerk reaction from a bad loser? OSPREYSAINT
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9:16am Fri 4 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

tootle wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Cllr. Richard Williams led NuLabour gaining control of Southampton Council is hardly any surprise, nor will it be any new shock when these NuLabourites behave in office more or less same way as the Tories they have just replaced
.
While overall vote of TUSC is disappointing, I am glad Southy has managed to overtake Lib-Dem in Redbridge.
.
Anyway Tories are out but sadly their policies needed to be thrown out as well. Unfortunately I can’t imagine that happening under Cllr. Williams and his colleagues
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NuLabour run Council will only do what has become natural habit of their party: They will break all their promises, won’t treat the workers well, will cut our services. And unlike Smith who was at least open and honest about his party’s nastiness, new Leader Williams will do no such thing. He will keep on throwing out meaningless sound bites to suit every occasion. Flip Flopping seem to have become his speciality and we will watch that inconsistency in action
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Having heard Cllr. Royston Smith on BBC radio I want to give him the credit for being man enough to get counted for his record in office, he did not make any excuses or blame others for his party’s defeat. Which I believe was well deserved kick on Tory back side
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In democracy we get what majority wishes for through the ballot box. That majority has decided to only change personalities, I wish it was vote for changing policies, because that is what our city needs
Well, what did we expect. The Conservatives didn't have a chance. Labour may or may not change policies but, unless they cut services drastically or put council tax up sharply it's not going to be any better. There is a need to engage people in politics if we wish ti live in a democracy(which we don't) - I had 3 election flyers, 1 tory, 1 labour both saying aren't we brilliant aren't they rubbish and an extra labour one which i didn't bother reading as it would have been no different to the other 2. These days unless one is interested and goes looks the first time you find out who is putting up is when you got to the polling station. Do these people want my vote or input - NO. Will they do anything good for me - NO! My Mother insisted the ONLY difference between Labour and the Tories is that they both promise you what you want, they both do what they want but Labour tell you it's for your own good while the Tories just do it. She preferred the Tories. Sadly Tories seem infected with the "it's for your own good syndrome" as well these days(in Central government at least.

Was talking to an independant who was planning for the independants to gain control of his local council, having had all independants who stood elected the previous time - how?, local people getting out and meeting local people and listening to local people and telling them the facts!. Wonders if they succeeded.
Thank you all the Labour voters for taking the right decision, it is time for change, I expect my Council Tax to rise with the money raised going to pay for the Services that I require and hopefully by a work force that is appreciated and looked after by it's management.
[quote][p][bold]tootle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: Cllr. Richard Williams led NuLabour gaining control of Southampton Council is hardly any surprise, nor will it be any new shock when these NuLabourites behave in office more or less same way as the Tories they have just replaced . While overall vote of TUSC is disappointing, I am glad Southy has managed to overtake Lib-Dem in Redbridge. . Anyway Tories are out but sadly their policies needed to be thrown out as well. Unfortunately I can’t imagine that happening under Cllr. Williams and his colleagues . NuLabour run Council will only do what has become natural habit of their party: They will break all their promises, won’t treat the workers well, will cut our services. And unlike Smith who was at least open and honest about his party’s nastiness, new Leader Williams will do no such thing. He will keep on throwing out meaningless sound bites to suit every occasion. Flip Flopping seem to have become his speciality and we will watch that inconsistency in action . Having heard Cllr. Royston Smith on BBC radio I want to give him the credit for being man enough to get counted for his record in office, he did not make any excuses or blame others for his party’s defeat. Which I believe was well deserved kick on Tory back side . In democracy we get what majority wishes for through the ballot box. That majority has decided to only change personalities, I wish it was vote for changing policies, because that is what our city needs[/p][/quote]Well, what did we expect. The Conservatives didn't have a chance. Labour may or may not change policies but, unless they cut services drastically or put council tax up sharply it's not going to be any better. There is a need to engage people in politics if we wish ti live in a democracy(which we don't) - I had 3 election flyers, 1 tory, 1 labour both saying aren't we brilliant aren't they rubbish and an extra labour one which i didn't bother reading as it would have been no different to the other 2. These days unless one is interested and goes looks the first time you find out who is putting up is when you got to the polling station. Do these people want my vote or input - NO. Will they do anything good for me - NO! My Mother insisted the ONLY difference between Labour and the Tories is that they both promise you what you want, they both do what they want but Labour tell you it's for your own good while the Tories just do it. She preferred the Tories. Sadly Tories seem infected with the "it's for your own good syndrome" as well these days(in Central government at least. Was talking to an independant who was planning for the independants to gain control of his local council, having had all independants who stood elected the previous time - how?, local people getting out and meeting local people and listening to local people and telling them the facts!. Wonders if they succeeded.[/p][/quote]Thank you all the Labour voters for taking the right decision, it is time for change, I expect my Council Tax to rise with the money raised going to pay for the Services that I require and hopefully by a work force that is appreciated and looked after by it's management. OSPREYSAINT
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9:18am Fri 4 May 12

good-gosh says...

Happy days are here again … SPEND, SPEND, SPEND ... borrow, borrow, borrow … millions maybe, or billions, dunno yet, who cares, much as poss …or whatever … or something … we’re in charge now, and we’re well fed up with the past … you know, fat cats and toffs and all that ... OK? … got it? … well show them …. SPEND, SPEND, SPEND…
Happy days are here again … SPEND, SPEND, SPEND ... borrow, borrow, borrow … millions maybe, or billions, dunno yet, who cares, much as poss …or whatever … or something … we’re in charge now, and we’re well fed up with the past … you know, fat cats and toffs and all that ... OK? … got it? … well show them …. SPEND, SPEND, SPEND… good-gosh
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9:19am Fri 4 May 12

Over the Edge says...

loosehead wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So blackmail does work!
What a sad day to be a Southampton resident.
Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories
Blackmail clearly doesn't work,,,,Royston lost control of the city,,,,take a pay cut, do the same job for less money or lose your jobs,,now that's blackmail and it cost Royston and Tories the control of the council.
Sorry but to say Vote Labour or we'll continue to strike doesn't sound anything like take a pay cut & we can save as many jobs as possible so are you really that thick?
I will have the last laugh as I know as well as all the Labour party members the lies they've used will come back to bite them in the bum.
two years next year 1-10 job cuts in refuse next year tax increases of at least £10-£15 a month I wonder who will gain votes then?
No I am not thick coming.

Locally the Tories answer to austerity was to attack it's own workforce whilst offering up massive contracts to private companies, the people of Southampton saw through things like the Sea City museum being paid for with borrowed money whilst making staff redundant, even after the promise by the then ruling Tories that it would not cost us a penny simply didn't come to fruition.

The pledge not to close libraries was false, again replacing paid staff with volunteers, if people didn't volunteer the libraries would close because there is no staff left to run them.

The Sure Start centre didn't close, however the staff were reduced as was the service they deliver, again more spin.

The cutting and closing of old folks homes and the selling off land at discounted prices and down like a lead balloon.

The discount offered to rich pensioners but not most in need got naff all.

The country is in a mess, no doubt about that, some people blame the last Government, some blame the de-regulation of the banks and the banks themselves being greedy trying to make a fast buck, having said all that however this Coalition polices are not helping economic recovery.

The sea of change needs to come from central Government, they are paying back the debt to fast is what is crippling local authorities all over the country and it's doing nothing to assist the economy or local councils, that is fact.

The people saw through all of this, both nationally and locally the Tories are failing, they are out of touch and the both nationally and locally prove it.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So blackmail does work! What a sad day to be a Southampton resident. Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories[/p][/quote]Blackmail clearly doesn't work,,,,Royston lost control of the city,,,,take a pay cut, do the same job for less money or lose your jobs,,now that's blackmail and it cost Royston and Tories the control of the council.[/p][/quote]Sorry but to say Vote Labour or we'll continue to strike doesn't sound anything like take a pay cut & we can save as many jobs as possible so are you really that thick? I will have the last laugh as I know as well as all the Labour party members the lies they've used will come back to bite them in the bum. two years next year 1-10 job cuts in refuse next year tax increases of at least £10-£15 a month I wonder who will gain votes then?[/p][/quote]No I am not thick coming. Locally the Tories answer to austerity was to attack it's own workforce whilst offering up massive contracts to private companies, the people of Southampton saw through things like the Sea City museum being paid for with borrowed money whilst making staff redundant, even after the promise by the then ruling Tories that it would not cost us a penny simply didn't come to fruition. The pledge not to close libraries was false, again replacing paid staff with volunteers, if people didn't volunteer the libraries would close because there is no staff left to run them. The Sure Start centre didn't close, however the staff were reduced as was the service they deliver, again more spin. The cutting and closing of old folks homes and the selling off land at discounted prices and down like a lead balloon. The discount offered to rich pensioners but not most in need got naff all. The country is in a mess, no doubt about that, some people blame the last Government, some blame the de-regulation of the banks and the banks themselves being greedy trying to make a fast buck, having said all that however this Coalition polices are not helping economic recovery. The sea of change needs to come from central Government, they are paying back the debt to fast is what is crippling local authorities all over the country and it's doing nothing to assist the economy or local councils, that is fact. The people saw through all of this, both nationally and locally the Tories are failing, they are out of touch and the both nationally and locally prove it. Over the Edge
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9:20am Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.
Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts.
Can't wait to see the unions love affair end.
If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric,
Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them.
the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power.
I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us.
We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away
i'd have a long way to go before I caught up with all your Royston stroking and rhetoric. as I keep saying, it's not actually the local authorities' faults that they've had this enormous cut in revenue. However, the way it's been managed in Southampton with huge contracts still up for grabs and huge sums of money spent on that isn't right.

My new Labour councillor has assured me they are against Biomass too so not sure where you got that one from! However, even if they were for it, I would still have voted the same way because I think it's the best way of protecting the vulnerable in this city. my own personal loss (although I have 2 very vulnerable youngsters and they are my first priority) is nothing compared to that of people who've had their homes taken away, unemployment at an all time high for youngsters, and crazy building schemes that benefit noone except the developers....

I'm just glad we don't have June Bridle any more as that woman was a nightmare as is Adrian Vinson!
Do not be to sure about Labour protecting the vulnerable, It was a Labour Government that help the closing down of the NHS mental Hospitals / wards around the UK.
[quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.[/p][/quote]Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts. Can't wait to see the unions love affair end. If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric, Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them. the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power. I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us. We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away[/p][/quote]i'd have a long way to go before I caught up with all your Royston stroking and rhetoric. as I keep saying, it's not actually the local authorities' faults that they've had this enormous cut in revenue. However, the way it's been managed in Southampton with huge contracts still up for grabs and huge sums of money spent on that isn't right. My new Labour councillor has assured me they are against Biomass too so not sure where you got that one from! However, even if they were for it, I would still have voted the same way because I think it's the best way of protecting the vulnerable in this city. my own personal loss (although I have 2 very vulnerable youngsters and they are my first priority) is nothing compared to that of people who've had their homes taken away, unemployment at an all time high for youngsters, and crazy building schemes that benefit noone except the developers.... I'm just glad we don't have June Bridle any more as that woman was a nightmare as is Adrian Vinson![/p][/quote]Do not be to sure about Labour protecting the vulnerable, It was a Labour Government that help the closing down of the NHS mental Hospitals / wards around the UK. southy
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9:22am Fri 4 May 12

Hopkino says...

Lee Whitbread has no employment history that warrants a representation......
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There is a significant lack of acumen displayed by the current elected.......
Lee Whitbread has no employment history that warrants a representation...... .. There is a significant lack of acumen displayed by the current elected....... Hopkino
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9:22am Fri 4 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

bigfella777 wrote:
The only winners out of this are binmen,now they can go back to their lazy ways.
Perhaps if they are treated with respect and not threatened they might actually get a chance to do their work properly, bullying tactics will always undermine morale and will always lead to poor quality workmanship, something Tories have never understood.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: The only winners out of this are binmen,now they can go back to their lazy ways.[/p][/quote]Perhaps if they are treated with respect and not threatened they might actually get a chance to do their work properly, bullying tactics will always undermine morale and will always lead to poor quality workmanship, something Tories have never understood. OSPREYSAINT
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9:22am Fri 4 May 12

Over the Edge says...

loosehead wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So blackmail does work!
What a sad day to be a Southampton resident.
Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories
Blackmail clearly doesn't work,,,,Royston lost control of the city,,,,take a pay cut, do the same job for less money or lose your jobs,,now that's blackmail and it cost Royston and Tories the control of the council.
Sorry but to say Vote Labour or we'll continue to strike doesn't sound anything like take a pay cut & we can save as many jobs as possible so are you really that thick?
I will have the last laugh as I know as well as all the Labour party members the lies they've used will come back to bite them in the bum.
two years next year 1-10 job cuts in refuse next year tax increases of at least £10-£15 a month I wonder who will gain votes then?
No I am not thick coming.

Locally the Tories answer to austerity was to attack it's own workforce whilst offering up massive contracts to private companies, the people of Southampton saw through things like the Sea City museum being paid for with borrowed money whilst making staff redundant, even after the promise by the then ruling Tories that it would not cost us a penny simply didn't come to fruition.

The pledge not to close libraries was false, again replacing paid staff with volunteers, if people didn't volunteer the libraries would close because there is no staff left to run them.

The Sure Start centre didn't close, however the staff were reduced as was the service they deliver, again more spin.

The cutting and closing of old folks homes and the selling off land at discounted prices and down like a lead balloon.

The discount offered to rich pensioners but not most in need got naff all.

The country is in a mess, no doubt about that, some people blame the last Government, some blame the de-regulation of the banks and the banks themselves being greedy trying to make a fast buck, having said all that however this Coalition polices are not helping economic recovery.

The sea of change needs to come from central Government, they are paying back the debt to fast is what is crippling local authorities all over the country and it's doing nothing to assist the economy or local councils, that is fact.

The people saw through all of this, both nationally and locally the Tories are failing, they are out of touch and the both nationally and locally and this result proves it.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So blackmail does work! What a sad day to be a Southampton resident. Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories[/p][/quote]Blackmail clearly doesn't work,,,,Royston lost control of the city,,,,take a pay cut, do the same job for less money or lose your jobs,,now that's blackmail and it cost Royston and Tories the control of the council.[/p][/quote]Sorry but to say Vote Labour or we'll continue to strike doesn't sound anything like take a pay cut & we can save as many jobs as possible so are you really that thick? I will have the last laugh as I know as well as all the Labour party members the lies they've used will come back to bite them in the bum. two years next year 1-10 job cuts in refuse next year tax increases of at least £10-£15 a month I wonder who will gain votes then?[/p][/quote]No I am not thick coming. Locally the Tories answer to austerity was to attack it's own workforce whilst offering up massive contracts to private companies, the people of Southampton saw through things like the Sea City museum being paid for with borrowed money whilst making staff redundant, even after the promise by the then ruling Tories that it would not cost us a penny simply didn't come to fruition. The pledge not to close libraries was false, again replacing paid staff with volunteers, if people didn't volunteer the libraries would close because there is no staff left to run them. The Sure Start centre didn't close, however the staff were reduced as was the service they deliver, again more spin. The cutting and closing of old folks homes and the selling off land at discounted prices and down like a lead balloon. The discount offered to rich pensioners but not most in need got naff all. The country is in a mess, no doubt about that, some people blame the last Government, some blame the de-regulation of the banks and the banks themselves being greedy trying to make a fast buck, having said all that however this Coalition polices are not helping economic recovery. The sea of change needs to come from central Government, they are paying back the debt to fast is what is crippling local authorities all over the country and it's doing nothing to assist the economy or local councils, that is fact. The people saw through all of this, both nationally and locally the Tories are failing, they are out of touch and the both nationally and locally and this result proves it. Over the Edge
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9:23am Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

ourcoalition wrote:
Congratulations from Brighton and Hove UNISON - we ousted the Tories last year, so very pleased to see your result!
And what did your Green Party Council do "implented cuts" they two will be gone at there next election.
[quote][p][bold]ourcoalition[/bold] wrote: Congratulations from Brighton and Hove UNISON - we ousted the Tories last year, so very pleased to see your result![/p][/quote]And what did your Green Party Council do "implented cuts" they two will be gone at there next election. southy
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9:25am Fri 4 May 12

Over the Edge says...

aldermoorboy, loosehead, Condorman, George4th, OSPREYSAINT, your boy called Roy took one hell a beating
aldermoorboy, loosehead, Condorman, George4th, OSPREYSAINT, your boy called Roy took one hell a beating Over the Edge
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9:30am Fri 4 May 12

Stizy001 says...

Somehow I have a feeling this is NOT a good thing.
Somehow I have a feeling this is NOT a good thing. Stizy001
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9:33am Fri 4 May 12

eurogordi says...

Hallelujah! Royston can no longer continue to destroy Southampton. My only regret is that he hung on to his seat ... but that can go next time.
Hallelujah! Royston can no longer continue to destroy Southampton. My only regret is that he hung on to his seat ... but that can go next time. eurogordi
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9:35am Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
Phantomdoll wrote:
I am very sorry about this result. As one of the "rich pensioners" Labour keeps banging on about I am dreading the rise in Council Tax, which will be inevitable now, and the loss of our modest discount. My husband and I (85 and 74 respectively) get about sixpence a week more than the threshold so we are not entitled to any benefits. And don't forget, if "rich pensioners" receive this modest Council Tax discount it means that they are not in receipt of any other welfare benefits. So we are costing the City and the country much less than those in receipt of full welfare benefits. We can also now look forward to fortnightly bin collections, and you Council workers had better make arrangement for your futures - because by the time the next local elections come round, about 2,000 of you will be jobless.
I don't know why people keep going on about fortnightly rubbish collections, no-one has proposed this anywhere!

As for rise in CT, if it holds onto services for everyone, then so be it, although a modest, manageable rise is sensible. For those of you whingeing I suspect a rise i n CT will be the first time you have been hit by the austerity measures - surely we're all in this together?! seems some just want to tell us all that, but they don't want any effect on them! even Surrey council which is so Tory you could see blue everywhere, managed to see that a CT rise was the way to go and defied the government on it. Sadly, like someone's already said if we want to keep services we have to make up the shortfall to keep services going, making people unemployed doesn't!
Listen every one the Council Tax can not go up, the Tory Government has put a freeze on Council tax.
So do not keep harping on about it.
[quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Phantomdoll[/bold] wrote: I am very sorry about this result. As one of the "rich pensioners" Labour keeps banging on about I am dreading the rise in Council Tax, which will be inevitable now, and the loss of our modest discount. My husband and I (85 and 74 respectively) get about sixpence a week more than the threshold so we are not entitled to any benefits. And don't forget, if "rich pensioners" receive this modest Council Tax discount it means that they are not in receipt of any other welfare benefits. So we are costing the City and the country much less than those in receipt of full welfare benefits. We can also now look forward to fortnightly bin collections, and you Council workers had better make arrangement for your futures - because by the time the next local elections come round, about 2,000 of you will be jobless.[/p][/quote]I don't know why people keep going on about fortnightly rubbish collections, no-one has proposed this anywhere! As for rise in CT, if it holds onto services for everyone, then so be it, although a modest, manageable rise is sensible. For those of you whingeing I suspect a rise i n CT will be the first time you have been hit by the austerity measures - surely we're all in this together?! seems some just want to tell us all that, but they don't want any effect on them! even Surrey council which is so Tory you could see blue everywhere, managed to see that a CT rise was the way to go and defied the government on it. Sadly, like someone's already said if we want to keep services we have to make up the shortfall to keep services going, making people unemployed doesn't![/p][/quote]Listen every one the Council Tax can not go up, the Tory Government has put a freeze on Council tax. So do not keep harping on about it. southy
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9:42am Fri 4 May 12

aldermoorboy says...

Well done you Tories, not the result I wanted, but that's the people's choice.
Roll on 2014, who knows the Tories may be back?Again voters rule, that's how it should be.
Well done to all candidates that stood for all parties, you make politics interesting and protect democracy.
Well done you Tories, not the result I wanted, but that's the people's choice. Roll on 2014, who knows the Tories may be back?Again voters rule, that's how it should be. Well done to all candidates that stood for all parties, you make politics interesting and protect democracy. aldermoorboy
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9:48am Fri 4 May 12

mr nobody says...

Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests
in the community , people what were you thinking .
Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests in the community , people what were you thinking . mr nobody
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9:57am Fri 4 May 12

The Salv says...

mr nobody wrote:
Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests in the community , people what were you thinking .
Unfortunetely most people are stupid and they will get what they voted for.
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It's an absolute disaster for Southampton but as soon as it starts going tits up again people will be calling for change.
[quote][p][bold]mr nobody[/bold] wrote: Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests in the community , people what were you thinking .[/p][/quote]Unfortunetely most people are stupid and they will get what they voted for. . It's an absolute disaster for Southampton but as soon as it starts going tits up again people will be calling for change. The Salv
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9:58am Fri 4 May 12

Lone Ranger. says...

Well done Labour.
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This was NOT just a vote against National Government BUT a vote against a Cllr who seemed to think that he could lord it over everyone.
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The people have voted ..... The people decided that the Tories must go ........
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Dire night for Tories.
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Disasterous night for Lib Dems
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Great night for Labour.
Well done Labour. . This was NOT just a vote against National Government BUT a vote against a Cllr who seemed to think that he could lord it over everyone. . The people have voted ..... The people decided that the Tories must go ........ . Dire night for Tories. . Disasterous night for Lib Dems . Great night for Labour. Lone Ranger.
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10:13am Fri 4 May 12

Portswoodfoke says...

I think nationally this has been a great night for the Tories...

They are leading a massive cleanup program with labour's economic mess so were bound to be unpopular in the polls (like any party in power). But they did not get completely washed out like one might expect, mostly because of massive voter apathy.

Labour has 2 years to prove they are still useless as ever before the next general, and I for one would much rather see people protest voting in council elections than giving labour more MP's.

Last night showed the lib dem vote has collapsed, labour is not making nearly enough gains to be taken seriously and the voters are completely fed up to the point where they don't bother voting.

All parties must improve turnout, a win with 30% is not a win, its a farce.
I think nationally this has been a great night for the Tories... They are leading a massive cleanup program with labour's economic mess so were bound to be unpopular in the polls (like any party in power). But they did not get completely washed out like one might expect, mostly because of massive voter apathy. Labour has 2 years to prove they are still useless as ever before the next general, and I for one would much rather see people protest voting in council elections than giving labour more MP's. Last night showed the lib dem vote has collapsed, labour is not making nearly enough gains to be taken seriously and the voters are completely fed up to the point where they don't bother voting. All parties must improve turnout, a win with 30% is not a win, its a farce. Portswoodfoke
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10:14am Fri 4 May 12

Torchie1 says...

The Salv wrote:
mr nobody wrote:
Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests in the community , people what were you thinking .
Unfortunetely most people are stupid and they will get what they voted for.
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It's an absolute disaster for Southampton but as soon as it starts going tits up again people will be calling for change.
It only needed another 1552 'stupid people' and Redbridge could have come to the attention of the whole country when the newly elected member stood up in the chamber to make his first 'speech'.
[quote][p][bold]The Salv[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr nobody[/bold] wrote: Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests in the community , people what were you thinking .[/p][/quote]Unfortunetely most people are stupid and they will get what they voted for. . It's an absolute disaster for Southampton but as soon as it starts going tits up again people will be calling for change.[/p][/quote]It only needed another 1552 'stupid people' and Redbridge could have come to the attention of the whole country when the newly elected member stood up in the chamber to make his first 'speech'. Torchie1
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10:14am Fri 4 May 12

Taskforce 141 says...

loosehead wrote:
Taskforce 141 wrote:
Bye Bye Royston, dont let the door hit you on the way out!
Can't wait to see the door slam in your face & wake you up from your daydream.
As the Jam said the public vote for what the public want! but do they actually know what they're getting?
If your anything to go by the answer is NO
You dirty dripping douche!

We know we arent getting the corrupt works of Royston, which is a good start.

Now its just time for you and your tory bum chums to up sticks and move to a greedy, seedy tory supporting city. As i recall, if you dont like it - MOVE!

Bye Bye, off you trot and good riddens, you mug
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Taskforce 141[/bold] wrote: Bye Bye Royston, dont let the door hit you on the way out![/p][/quote]Can't wait to see the door slam in your face & wake you up from your daydream. As the Jam said the public vote for what the public want! but do they actually know what they're getting? If your anything to go by the answer is NO[/p][/quote]You dirty dripping douche! We know we arent getting the corrupt works of Royston, which is a good start. Now its just time for you and your tory bum chums to up sticks and move to a greedy, seedy tory supporting city. As i recall, if you dont like it - MOVE! Bye Bye, off you trot and good riddens, you mug Taskforce 141
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10:16am Fri 4 May 12

freemantlegirl2 says...

southy wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.
Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts.
Can't wait to see the unions love affair end.
If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric,
Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them.
the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power.
I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us.
We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away
i'd have a long way to go before I caught up with all your Royston stroking and rhetoric. as I keep saying, it's not actually the local authorities' faults that they've had this enormous cut in revenue. However, the way it's been managed in Southampton with huge contracts still up for grabs and huge sums of money spent on that isn't right.

My new Labour councillor has assured me they are against Biomass too so not sure where you got that one from! However, even if they were for it, I would still have voted the same way because I think it's the best way of protecting the vulnerable in this city. my own personal loss (although I have 2 very vulnerable youngsters and they are my first priority) is nothing compared to that of people who've had their homes taken away, unemployment at an all time high for youngsters, and crazy building schemes that benefit noone except the developers....

I'm just glad we don't have June Bridle any more as that woman was a nightmare as is Adrian Vinson!
Do not be to sure about Labour protecting the vulnerable, It was a Labour Government that help the closing down of the NHS mental Hospitals / wards around the UK.
Southy, that is beyond the control of a local council. You are contradicting yourself I thought it was Mrs T who began the dismantling of the NHS? ;) I don't always agree with every single policy and would obviously fight (and have been doing) any ridiculous changes like Lansley's to the NHS which is pure arrogance as no-one agrees with him! even many of his Tory boys..... The real culprits are the LibDems who are in government with the Tories (although you'd never notice would you!) as they're propping up all these outrageous polices. YES measures and streamlining does need to be done but it needs proper consultation and thought.

As for Dave Nellist, he's a lovely bloke I've met him but he got expelled by the Labour party for being in the militant tendency. That will never happen in this country - sorry but it won't. it was all very exciting in the 80s when I was a student and very left wing myself lol. I always stick up for you because you are passionate about what you believe in but just slagging off Labour and the tories does you no favours.......

I have defended JMoulton on occasions too, as he's done a lot in our Ward and Michael Ball hasn't. No-one can ever find or speak to him! However, Royston has been the Tories downfall in this city, just like ConCam will nationally.... I qiute like the idea as I said of a council actually run by local people not affiliated to any party at all but can't see it happening anytime soon! people are too selfish these days.....

Well done for increasing your vote.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.[/p][/quote]Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts. Can't wait to see the unions love affair end. If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric, Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them. the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power. I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us. We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away[/p][/quote]i'd have a long way to go before I caught up with all your Royston stroking and rhetoric. as I keep saying, it's not actually the local authorities' faults that they've had this enormous cut in revenue. However, the way it's been managed in Southampton with huge contracts still up for grabs and huge sums of money spent on that isn't right. My new Labour councillor has assured me they are against Biomass too so not sure where you got that one from! However, even if they were for it, I would still have voted the same way because I think it's the best way of protecting the vulnerable in this city. my own personal loss (although I have 2 very vulnerable youngsters and they are my first priority) is nothing compared to that of people who've had their homes taken away, unemployment at an all time high for youngsters, and crazy building schemes that benefit noone except the developers.... I'm just glad we don't have June Bridle any more as that woman was a nightmare as is Adrian Vinson![/p][/quote]Do not be to sure about Labour protecting the vulnerable, It was a Labour Government that help the closing down of the NHS mental Hospitals / wards around the UK.[/p][/quote]Southy, that is beyond the control of a local council. You are contradicting yourself I thought it was Mrs T who began the dismantling of the NHS? ;) I don't always agree with every single policy and would obviously fight (and have been doing) any ridiculous changes like Lansley's to the NHS which is pure arrogance as no-one agrees with him! even many of his Tory boys..... The real culprits are the LibDems who are in government with the Tories (although you'd never notice would you!) as they're propping up all these outrageous polices. YES measures and streamlining does need to be done but it needs proper consultation and thought. As for Dave Nellist, he's a lovely bloke I've met him but he got expelled by the Labour party for being in the militant tendency. That will never happen in this country - sorry but it won't. it was all very exciting in the 80s when I was a student and very left wing myself lol. I always stick up for you because you are passionate about what you believe in but just slagging off Labour and the tories does you no favours....... I have defended JMoulton on occasions too, as he's done a lot in our Ward and Michael Ball hasn't. No-one can ever find or speak to him! However, Royston has been the Tories downfall in this city, just like ConCam will nationally.... I qiute like the idea as I said of a council actually run by local people not affiliated to any party at all but can't see it happening anytime soon! people are too selfish these days..... Well done for increasing your vote. freemantlegirl2
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10:17am Fri 4 May 12

good-gosh says...

One advantage to labour in charge: its peaceful. They stop moaning.
One advantage to labour in charge: its peaceful. They stop moaning. good-gosh
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10:22am Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Well done Labour.
.
This was NOT just a vote against National Government BUT a vote against a Cllr who seemed to think that he could lord it over everyone.
.
The people have voted ..... The people decided that the Tories must go ........
.
Dire night for Tories.
.
Disasterous night for Lib Dems
.
Great night for Labour.
Take a look around the Country it was a vote agaist the National Government, Tory Council though out England and Wales took a massive beating.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Well done Labour. . This was NOT just a vote against National Government BUT a vote against a Cllr who seemed to think that he could lord it over everyone. . The people have voted ..... The people decided that the Tories must go ........ . Dire night for Tories. . Disasterous night for Lib Dems . Great night for Labour.[/p][/quote]Take a look around the Country it was a vote agaist the National Government, Tory Council though out England and Wales took a massive beating. southy
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10:26am Fri 4 May 12

AndyVD says...

mr nobody wrote:
Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests
in the community , people what were you thinking .
Well I think shes a great candidate for us to be honest. Older doesn't always mean wiser.

Have you spoken to people of her age and what they feel about politics? No. Shes an inspiration for us all, and might encourage a few of the younger lot to get involved a bit more.

I spoke to her on my doorstep, seems like a genuinely caring young lady if you ask me.

I look forward to seeing what potential she has. You've just tarred her with the "yoof" brush .
[quote][p][bold]mr nobody[/bold] wrote: Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests in the community , people what were you thinking .[/p][/quote]Well I think shes a great candidate for us to be honest. Older doesn't always mean wiser. Have you spoken to people of her age and what they feel about politics? No. Shes an inspiration for us all, and might encourage a few of the younger lot to get involved a bit more. I spoke to her on my doorstep, seems like a genuinely caring young lady if you ask me. I look forward to seeing what potential she has. You've just tarred her with the "yoof" brush . AndyVD
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10:28am Fri 4 May 12

rightway says...

With such a dismal performance by the Southampton tory party and the apathy of their supporters, isn’t it now time for Royston to admit how out of touch he is with the electorate, crawl under his comb over and leave politics to those who show even the slightest interest in the concerns of the Southampton public.
With such a dismal performance by the Southampton tory party and the apathy of their supporters, isn’t it now time for Royston to admit how out of touch he is with the electorate, crawl under his comb over and leave politics to those who show even the slightest interest in the concerns of the Southampton public. rightway
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10:35am Fri 4 May 12

Lone Ranger. says...

southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Well done Labour.
.
This was NOT just a vote against National Government BUT a vote against a Cllr who seemed to think that he could lord it over everyone.
.
The people have voted ..... The people decided that the Tories must go ........
.
Dire night for Tories.
.
Disasterous night for Lib Dems
.
Great night for Labour.
Take a look around the Country it was a vote agaist the National Government, Tory Council though out England and Wales took a massive beating.
Southy ... were you disappointed with yours and the other local TUSC votes
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Well done Labour. . This was NOT just a vote against National Government BUT a vote against a Cllr who seemed to think that he could lord it over everyone. . The people have voted ..... The people decided that the Tories must go ........ . Dire night for Tories. . Disasterous night for Lib Dems . Great night for Labour.[/p][/quote]Take a look around the Country it was a vote agaist the National Government, Tory Council though out England and Wales took a massive beating.[/p][/quote]Southy ... were you disappointed with yours and the other local TUSC votes Lone Ranger.
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10:36am Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
southy wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.
Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts.
Can't wait to see the unions love affair end.
If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric,
Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them.
the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power.
I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us.
We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away
i'd have a long way to go before I caught up with all your Royston stroking and rhetoric. as I keep saying, it's not actually the local authorities' faults that they've had this enormous cut in revenue. However, the way it's been managed in Southampton with huge contracts still up for grabs and huge sums of money spent on that isn't right.

My new Labour councillor has assured me they are against Biomass too so not sure where you got that one from! However, even if they were for it, I would still have voted the same way because I think it's the best way of protecting the vulnerable in this city. my own personal loss (although I have 2 very vulnerable youngsters and they are my first priority) is nothing compared to that of people who've had their homes taken away, unemployment at an all time high for youngsters, and crazy building schemes that benefit noone except the developers....

I'm just glad we don't have June Bridle any more as that woman was a nightmare as is Adrian Vinson!
Do not be to sure about Labour protecting the vulnerable, It was a Labour Government that help the closing down of the NHS mental Hospitals / wards around the UK.
Southy, that is beyond the control of a local council. You are contradicting yourself I thought it was Mrs T who began the dismantling of the NHS? ;) I don't always agree with every single policy and would obviously fight (and have been doing) any ridiculous changes like Lansley's to the NHS which is pure arrogance as no-one agrees with him! even many of his Tory boys..... The real culprits are the LibDems who are in government with the Tories (although you'd never notice would you!) as they're propping up all these outrageous polices. YES measures and streamlining does need to be done but it needs proper consultation and thought.

As for Dave Nellist, he's a lovely bloke I've met him but he got expelled by the Labour party for being in the militant tendency. That will never happen in this country - sorry but it won't. it was all very exciting in the 80s when I was a student and very left wing myself lol. I always stick up for you because you are passionate about what you believe in but just slagging off Labour and the tories does you no favours.......

I have defended JMoulton on occasions too, as he's done a lot in our Ward and Michael Ball hasn't. No-one can ever find or speak to him! However, Royston has been the Tories downfall in this city, just like ConCam will nationally.... I qiute like the idea as I said of a council actually run by local people not affiliated to any party at all but can't see it happening anytime soon! people are too selfish these days.....

Well done for increasing your vote.
Your right Thatcher did start the dismantling of the NHS, School Kids Dentist was the first targett, But Labour carried on with it,Labour set the targett to how much the NHS was to be reduce by and Local council had the pick what to close down, and mentle heath hospitals was part of there pick.
All you got in reality is the same policys just a different face.
Torys took a beating all over England and Wales.
The closes you get with a council run by local people is the TUSC FM2.
Thanks the vote went up 2% not bad.
[quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.[/p][/quote]Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts. Can't wait to see the unions love affair end. If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric, Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them. the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power. I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us. We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away[/p][/quote]i'd have a long way to go before I caught up with all your Royston stroking and rhetoric. as I keep saying, it's not actually the local authorities' faults that they've had this enormous cut in revenue. However, the way it's been managed in Southampton with huge contracts still up for grabs and huge sums of money spent on that isn't right. My new Labour councillor has assured me they are against Biomass too so not sure where you got that one from! However, even if they were for it, I would still have voted the same way because I think it's the best way of protecting the vulnerable in this city. my own personal loss (although I have 2 very vulnerable youngsters and they are my first priority) is nothing compared to that of people who've had their homes taken away, unemployment at an all time high for youngsters, and crazy building schemes that benefit noone except the developers.... I'm just glad we don't have June Bridle any more as that woman was a nightmare as is Adrian Vinson![/p][/quote]Do not be to sure about Labour protecting the vulnerable, It was a Labour Government that help the closing down of the NHS mental Hospitals / wards around the UK.[/p][/quote]Southy, that is beyond the control of a local council. You are contradicting yourself I thought it was Mrs T who began the dismantling of the NHS? ;) I don't always agree with every single policy and would obviously fight (and have been doing) any ridiculous changes like Lansley's to the NHS which is pure arrogance as no-one agrees with him! even many of his Tory boys..... The real culprits are the LibDems who are in government with the Tories (although you'd never notice would you!) as they're propping up all these outrageous polices. YES measures and streamlining does need to be done but it needs proper consultation and thought. As for Dave Nellist, he's a lovely bloke I've met him but he got expelled by the Labour party for being in the militant tendency. That will never happen in this country - sorry but it won't. it was all very exciting in the 80s when I was a student and very left wing myself lol. I always stick up for you because you are passionate about what you believe in but just slagging off Labour and the tories does you no favours....... I have defended JMoulton on occasions too, as he's done a lot in our Ward and Michael Ball hasn't. No-one can ever find or speak to him! However, Royston has been the Tories downfall in this city, just like ConCam will nationally.... I qiute like the idea as I said of a council actually run by local people not affiliated to any party at all but can't see it happening anytime soon! people are too selfish these days..... Well done for increasing your vote.[/p][/quote]Your right Thatcher did start the dismantling of the NHS, School Kids Dentist was the first targett, But Labour carried on with it,Labour set the targett to how much the NHS was to be reduce by and Local council had the pick what to close down, and mentle heath hospitals was part of there pick. All you got in reality is the same policys just a different face. Torys took a beating all over England and Wales. The closes you get with a council run by local people is the TUSC FM2. Thanks the vote went up 2% not bad. southy
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10:37am Fri 4 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Well done Labour.
.
This was NOT just a vote against National Government BUT a vote against a Cllr who seemed to think that he could lord it over everyone.
.
The people have voted ..... The people decided that the Tories must go ........
.
Dire night for Tories.
.
Disasterous night for Lib Dems
.
Great night for Labour.
Take a look around the Country it was a vote agaist the National Government, Tory Council though out England and Wales took a massive beating.
Southy ... were you disappointed with yours and the other local TUSC votes
The TUSC votes were basically point makers, I did worry that they would detract from the Labour vote but in the main they didn't.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Well done Labour. . This was NOT just a vote against National Government BUT a vote against a Cllr who seemed to think that he could lord it over everyone. . The people have voted ..... The people decided that the Tories must go ........ . Dire night for Tories. . Disasterous night for Lib Dems . Great night for Labour.[/p][/quote]Take a look around the Country it was a vote agaist the National Government, Tory Council though out England and Wales took a massive beating.[/p][/quote]Southy ... were you disappointed with yours and the other local TUSC votes[/p][/quote]The TUSC votes were basically point makers, I did worry that they would detract from the Labour vote but in the main they didn't. OSPREYSAINT
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10:38am Fri 4 May 12

Lone Ranger. says...

loosehead wrote:
So blackmail does work!
What a sad day to be a Southampton resident.
Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories
Man up Loosehead ..... You were stuffed, You lost
.
And in the main you can thank your council leader for it...... But thats doesnt take anything away from the Tory led coalition
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So blackmail does work! What a sad day to be a Southampton resident. Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories[/p][/quote]Man up Loosehead ..... You were stuffed, You lost . And in the main you can thank your council leader for it...... But thats doesnt take anything away from the Tory led coalition Lone Ranger.
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10:40am Fri 4 May 12

saintjak says...

A very sad day indeed

Back to my taxes being squandered, over spending and appeasing those who contribute the least.

Panic always sets in when some might actually have to work for their money or the public sector have to make sacrificies.

Well done Southampton and the U.K
A very sad day indeed Back to my taxes being squandered, over spending and appeasing those who contribute the least. Panic always sets in when some might actually have to work for their money or the public sector have to make sacrificies. Well done Southampton and the U.K saintjak
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10:42am Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Well done Labour.
.
This was NOT just a vote against National Government BUT a vote against a Cllr who seemed to think that he could lord it over everyone.
.
The people have voted ..... The people decided that the Tories must go ........
.
Dire night for Tories.
.
Disasterous night for Lib Dems
.
Great night for Labour.
Take a look around the Country it was a vote agaist the National Government, Tory Council though out England and Wales took a massive beating.
Southy ... were you disappointed with yours and the other local TUSC votes
Not really we made the Labour candidates to finally get out and do some work.
In my ward Unite sent Union council workers to knock on there members doors to get them to change there vote from me to Labour, but it did not work the same one still voted for me, simply because they do not Trust Labour and there capitalist ways, and that Ian woodland as got into bed with them.
watch what will happen in 2014 there will be a massive back lash agaist the Labour Party and you will see minor partys in the Council Chambers.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Well done Labour. . This was NOT just a vote against National Government BUT a vote against a Cllr who seemed to think that he could lord it over everyone. . The people have voted ..... The people decided that the Tories must go ........ . Dire night for Tories. . Disasterous night for Lib Dems . Great night for Labour.[/p][/quote]Take a look around the Country it was a vote agaist the National Government, Tory Council though out England and Wales took a massive beating.[/p][/quote]Southy ... were you disappointed with yours and the other local TUSC votes[/p][/quote]Not really we made the Labour candidates to finally get out and do some work. In my ward Unite sent Union council workers to knock on there members doors to get them to change there vote from me to Labour, but it did not work the same one still voted for me, simply because they do not Trust Labour and there capitalist ways, and that Ian woodland as got into bed with them. watch what will happen in 2014 there will be a massive back lash agaist the Labour Party and you will see minor partys in the Council Chambers. southy
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10:45am Fri 4 May 12

good-gosh says...

Don’t despair. The Westminster machine will clunk them into order.
Don’t despair. The Westminster machine will clunk them into order. good-gosh
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10:45am Fri 4 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Lambo1976 wrote:
See you in the club house Royston! Ha-ha.
to be honest they are all as bad as each other until they get the politically correct party sorted nothing will ever change!
TIRED OF YOUR JOB.
Sick of working 40 hours a week just to feed your family?????
Would you like to relax all day and still have all the benefits of a full time job?
If you answered yes to any of these questions then you should consider a move to
ENGLAND THE WELFARE COUNTRY!!
If you qualify (and only working people don't)
you can receive the following;
FREE HOUSING,
FREE UTILITIES,
FREE FOOD,
FREE MEDICAL SERVICES,
FREE TRANSPORT,
FREE LEGAL SERVICES.
This programme is not limited to 3 or 6 months like most other countries.
In England you can collect for life .
Some of our families have received Benefits for 2 or 3 generations.
So if you want to receive all of the above without working for a living contact the
BERNEFITS ANGENCY.
ENGLAND, THE COUNTRY WHERE ONLY SUCKERS WORK!.
BERNEFITS ANGENCY? We seem to need to put more effort into Education, particularly in our own English Language.
[quote][p][bold]Lambo1976[/bold] wrote: See you in the club house Royston! Ha-ha. to be honest they are all as bad as each other until they get the politically correct party sorted nothing will ever change! TIRED OF YOUR JOB. Sick of working 40 hours a week just to feed your family????? Would you like to relax all day and still have all the benefits of a full time job? If you answered yes to any of these questions then you should consider a move to ENGLAND THE WELFARE COUNTRY!! If you qualify (and only working people don't) you can receive the following; FREE HOUSING, FREE UTILITIES, FREE FOOD, FREE MEDICAL SERVICES, FREE TRANSPORT, FREE LEGAL SERVICES. This programme is not limited to 3 or 6 months like most other countries. In England you can collect for life . Some of our families have received Benefits for 2 or 3 generations. So if you want to receive all of the above without working for a living contact the BERNEFITS ANGENCY. ENGLAND, THE COUNTRY WHERE ONLY SUCKERS WORK!.[/p][/quote]BERNEFITS ANGENCY? We seem to need to put more effort into Education, particularly in our own English Language. OSPREYSAINT
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10:45am Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

Labour pick up a number of Tory voters yesterday, its a message to the Torys to get rid off Royston or lose there votes.
Labour pick up a number of Tory voters yesterday, its a message to the Torys to get rid off Royston or lose there votes. southy
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10:49am Fri 4 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

AndyVD wrote:
mr nobody wrote:
Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests
in the community , people what were you thinking .
Well I think shes a great candidate for us to be honest. Older doesn't always mean wiser.

Have you spoken to people of her age and what they feel about politics? No. Shes an inspiration for us all, and might encourage a few of the younger lot to get involved a bit more.

I spoke to her on my doorstep, seems like a genuinely caring young lady if you ask me.

I look forward to seeing what potential she has. You've just tarred her with the "yoof" brush .
A 19 year old who hasn't been fitted with political blinkers and can see the wider picture, we need more of the same, from all Political persuasions.
[quote][p][bold]AndyVD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr nobody[/bold] wrote: Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests in the community , people what were you thinking .[/p][/quote]Well I think shes a great candidate for us to be honest. Older doesn't always mean wiser. Have you spoken to people of her age and what they feel about politics? No. Shes an inspiration for us all, and might encourage a few of the younger lot to get involved a bit more. I spoke to her on my doorstep, seems like a genuinely caring young lady if you ask me. I look forward to seeing what potential she has. You've just tarred her with the "yoof" brush .[/p][/quote]A 19 year old who hasn't been fitted with political blinkers and can see the wider picture, we need more of the same, from all Political persuasions. OSPREYSAINT
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10:52am Fri 4 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintjak wrote:
A very sad day indeed

Back to my taxes being squandered, over spending and appeasing those who contribute the least.

Panic always sets in when some might actually have to work for their money or the public sector have to make sacrificies.

Well done Southampton and the U.K
Really? Who told you that?
[quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: A very sad day indeed Back to my taxes being squandered, over spending and appeasing those who contribute the least. Panic always sets in when some might actually have to work for their money or the public sector have to make sacrificies. Well done Southampton and the U.K[/p][/quote]Really? Who told you that? OSPREYSAINT
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10:52am Fri 4 May 12

dave1958 says...

mr nobody wrote:
Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests
in the community , people what were you thinking .
Mr Nobody, I bet you did not complain when the 18 year old tories took their seats four years ago.
As for living in the ward, the defetated Conservative Councillor DOES NOT even live in Southampton, at least the 3 Millbrook Councillors do, and they are contactable.
Just a point of accuracy for Condor Man Jenks as you call him, was not standing as a candidate last night.
[quote][p][bold]mr nobody[/bold] wrote: Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests in the community , people what were you thinking .[/p][/quote]Mr Nobody, I bet you did not complain when the 18 year old tories took their seats four years ago. As for living in the ward, the defetated Conservative Councillor DOES NOT even live in Southampton, at least the 3 Millbrook Councillors do, and they are contactable. Just a point of accuracy for Condor Man Jenks as you call him, was not standing as a candidate last night. dave1958
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10:54am Fri 4 May 12

Maine Lobster says...

mr nobody wrote:
Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests in the community , people what were you thinking .
Better ask the various teenage Tory boys who were voted in during 2008. There were several of them, and none now!
How many Tory Councillors live in the ward they represent do you think? Not many is the answer!
[quote][p][bold]mr nobody[/bold] wrote: Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests in the community , people what were you thinking .[/p][/quote]Better ask the various teenage Tory boys who were voted in during 2008. There were several of them, and none now! How many Tory Councillors live in the ward they represent do you think? Not many is the answer! Maine Lobster
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10:55am Fri 4 May 12

Smartiepants says...

loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.
Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts.
Can't wait to see the unions love affair end.
If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric,
Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them.
the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power.
I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us.
We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away
We said the same this morning, watch your council tax go up next year. Where's the money going to come from eh? Where exactly? Lets see Labour do oh so much better than Tory and then we'll see the same people that are here today revert back to Tory voting. We are here now precisely because Labour cocked up royally the last time they were in.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.[/p][/quote]Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts. Can't wait to see the unions love affair end. If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric, Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them. the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power. I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us. We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away[/p][/quote]We said the same this morning, watch your council tax go up next year. Where's the money going to come from eh? Where exactly? Lets see Labour do oh so much better than Tory and then we'll see the same people that are here today revert back to Tory voting. We are here now precisely because Labour cocked up royally the last time they were in. Smartiepants
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11:00am Fri 4 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

The Salv wrote:
mr nobody wrote:
Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests in the community , people what were you thinking .
Unfortunetely most people are stupid and they will get what they voted for.
.
It's an absolute disaster for Southampton but as soon as it starts going tits up again people will be calling for change.
Most people are stupid? Who do you think you are to make a statement like that. I am sorry most people are sensible enough to know that the people in the present Council have been getting it wrong and have been democratically voted off, for a change, if the new incumbents get it wrong then they will get the same treatment, that is what it is all about, nothing stupid about that, are you too much of an idiot to appreciate that?
[quote][p][bold]The Salv[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr nobody[/bold] wrote: Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests in the community , people what were you thinking .[/p][/quote]Unfortunetely most people are stupid and they will get what they voted for. . It's an absolute disaster for Southampton but as soon as it starts going tits up again people will be calling for change.[/p][/quote]Most people are stupid? Who do you think you are to make a statement like that. I am sorry most people are sensible enough to know that the people in the present Council have been getting it wrong and have been democratically voted off, for a change, if the new incumbents get it wrong then they will get the same treatment, that is what it is all about, nothing stupid about that, are you too much of an idiot to appreciate that? OSPREYSAINT
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11:05am Fri 4 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Smartiepants wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.
Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts.
Can't wait to see the unions love affair end.
If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric,
Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them.
the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power.
I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us.
We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away
We said the same this morning, watch your council tax go up next year. Where's the money going to come from eh? Where exactly? Lets see Labour do oh so much better than Tory and then we'll see the same people that are here today revert back to Tory voting. We are here now precisely because Labour cocked up royally the last time they were in.
What exactly do you think the Council Tax is for then? is it a Political football to be kicked about to win votes? As I understand it, it should be used to provide the services that people require and should be balanced to do that. Not held at an unacceptable level that means cuts in services just to gain a few votes.
[quote][p][bold]Smartiepants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.[/p][/quote]Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts. Can't wait to see the unions love affair end. If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric, Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them. the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power. I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us. We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away[/p][/quote]We said the same this morning, watch your council tax go up next year. Where's the money going to come from eh? Where exactly? Lets see Labour do oh so much better than Tory and then we'll see the same people that are here today revert back to Tory voting. We are here now precisely because Labour cocked up royally the last time they were in.[/p][/quote]What exactly do you think the Council Tax is for then? is it a Political football to be kicked about to win votes? As I understand it, it should be used to provide the services that people require and should be balanced to do that. Not held at an unacceptable level that means cuts in services just to gain a few votes. OSPREYSAINT
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11:06am Fri 4 May 12

The Salv says...

If you let children vote for what they wanted to eat for dinner for the next 5 years then it wouldn’t take long after meal after meal of sweets and chocolate to have a nation sick un healthy children. Vegetables and Fruit may be boring and unpopular but they lead for a healthy life. Voting for Labour is like voting for sweets, maybe enjoyable at first but then you get diabetes.
If you let children vote for what they wanted to eat for dinner for the next 5 years then it wouldn’t take long after meal after meal of sweets and chocolate to have a nation sick un healthy children. Vegetables and Fruit may be boring and unpopular but they lead for a healthy life. Voting for Labour is like voting for sweets, maybe enjoyable at first but then you get diabetes. The Salv
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11:08am Fri 4 May 12

George4th says...

Nothing fundamentally changes how politics work in the UK.
The Tories will give you prosperity and aspiration. Labour will give you wastefulness. It is amazing how Labour voters can't wake up to this fact! If you don't believe it, check out the UK, area by area...........
>
The best result of the night? The Respect Party won the seat of the Labour Council Leader in Bradford!! Now that was a result!! The Respect Party won a total of 5 Seats - amazing!
>
So, what will happen is that Eastleigh, Winchester, Portsmouth, Bournemouth will continue to prosper with new businesses and jobs while Southampton will languish for the foreseeable future - sad, but true............
>
Young graduates, leave the City NOW!!
Nothing fundamentally changes how politics work in the UK. The Tories will give you prosperity and aspiration. Labour will give you wastefulness. It is amazing how Labour voters can't wake up to this fact! If you don't believe it, check out the UK, area by area........... > The best result of the night? The Respect Party won the seat of the Labour Council Leader in Bradford!! Now that was a result!! The Respect Party won a total of 5 Seats - amazing! > So, what will happen is that Eastleigh, Winchester, Portsmouth, Bournemouth will continue to prosper with new businesses and jobs while Southampton will languish for the foreseeable future - sad, but true............ > Young graduates, leave the City NOW!! George4th
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11:11am Fri 4 May 12

dave1958 says...

dave1958 wrote:
mr nobody wrote:
Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests
in the community , people what were you thinking .
Mr Nobody, I bet you did not complain when the 18 year old tories took their seats four years ago.
As for living in the ward, the defetated Conservative Councillor DOES NOT even live in Southampton, at least the 3 Millbrook Councillors do, and they are contactable.
Just a point of accuracy for Condor Man Jenks as you call him, was not standing as a candidate last night.
I forgot to add that the defeated Conservative Candidate for Freemantle did not even live in the City
[quote][p][bold]dave1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr nobody[/bold] wrote: Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests in the community , people what were you thinking .[/p][/quote]Mr Nobody, I bet you did not complain when the 18 year old tories took their seats four years ago. As for living in the ward, the defetated Conservative Councillor DOES NOT even live in Southampton, at least the 3 Millbrook Councillors do, and they are contactable. Just a point of accuracy for Condor Man Jenks as you call him, was not standing as a candidate last night.[/p][/quote]I forgot to add that the defeated Conservative Candidate for Freemantle did not even live in the City dave1958
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11:11am Fri 4 May 12

chunky_lover says...

This is the trouble with allowing the working classes a vote.
This is the trouble with allowing the working classes a vote. chunky_lover
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11:11am Fri 4 May 12

saintjak says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintjak wrote: A very sad day indeed Back to my taxes being squandered, over spending and appeasing those who contribute the least. Panic always sets in when some might actually have to work for their money or the public sector have to make sacrificies. Well done Southampton and the U.K
Really? Who told you that?
Who told me?

I lived through the 13 years of labour rule...

Labour voters want their fantasy bottomless pitt of money back...

Good luck with that
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: A very sad day indeed Back to my taxes being squandered, over spending and appeasing those who contribute the least. Panic always sets in when some might actually have to work for their money or the public sector have to make sacrificies. Well done Southampton and the U.K[/p][/quote]Really? Who told you that?[/p][/quote]Who told me? I lived through the 13 years of labour rule... Labour voters want their fantasy bottomless pitt of money back... Good luck with that saintjak
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11:12am Fri 4 May 12

ohmywell says...

George4th where are you hahahahahahaahahahah
ahahaahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahaLoud mouth tory pillock. Come on you reds. See you later Roy
Drinks on me in the club tonight.
WHAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
O
George4th where are you hahahahahahaahahahah ahahaahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaLoud mouth tory pillock. Come on you reds. See you later Roy Drinks on me in the club tonight. WHAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O ohmywell
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11:13am Fri 4 May 12

saintjak says...

The Salv wrote:
If you let children vote for what they wanted to eat for dinner for the next 5 years then it wouldn’t take long after meal after meal of sweets and chocolate to have a nation sick un healthy children. Vegetables and Fruit may be boring and unpopular but they lead for a healthy life. Voting for Labour is like voting for sweets, maybe enjoyable at first but then you get diabetes.
good post
[quote][p][bold]The Salv[/bold] wrote: If you let children vote for what they wanted to eat for dinner for the next 5 years then it wouldn’t take long after meal after meal of sweets and chocolate to have a nation sick un healthy children. Vegetables and Fruit may be boring and unpopular but they lead for a healthy life. Voting for Labour is like voting for sweets, maybe enjoyable at first but then you get diabetes.[/p][/quote]good post saintjak
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11:15am Fri 4 May 12

AndyVD says...

ohmywell wrote:
George4th where are you hahahahahahaahahahah

ahahaahahahahahahaha

hahahahahahahahahaha

hahahahahahahahahaha

hahahahahahahahahaha

hahahahaLoud mouth tory pillock. Come on you reds. See you later Roy
Drinks on me in the club tonight.
WHAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

O
I think you mean WAHOO ;) Its down by the Dolphin Hotel.
[quote][p][bold]ohmywell[/bold] wrote: George4th where are you hahahahahahaahahahah ahahaahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaLoud mouth tory pillock. Come on you reds. See you later Roy Drinks on me in the club tonight. WHAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O[/p][/quote]I think you mean WAHOO ;) Its down by the Dolphin Hotel. AndyVD
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11:17am Fri 4 May 12

Georgem says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Considering Southy has managed to not only increase TUSC's share of the vote in Redbridge, which is one of NuLabour's strongest wards, but he has also pushed Liberal Democrats into third place, I hope should be sufficient to shut those up who keep on ridiculing him on this website.
None of this has anything to do with his inability to reason his way out of a paper bag.
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: Considering Southy has managed to not only increase TUSC's share of the vote in Redbridge, which is one of NuLabour's strongest wards, but he has also pushed Liberal Democrats into third place, I hope should be sufficient to shut those up who keep on ridiculing him on this website.[/p][/quote]None of this has anything to do with his inability to reason his way out of a paper bag. Georgem
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11:18am Fri 4 May 12

owen_thesaints says...

ohmywell wrote:
Where's George4th now. hahahahahahahahahaha

hahahahahahahahahaha

hahahahahahahahahaha

hahahahahahahahahaha

hahahahahahahahahaha

hahahaha
Cant wait to see what garbage he's going to spout now. Kn*b
Still missing in action...
[quote][p][bold]ohmywell[/bold] wrote: Where's George4th now. hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahaha Cant wait to see what garbage he's going to spout now. Kn*b[/p][/quote]Still missing in action... owen_thesaints
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11:20am Fri 4 May 12

Maine Lobster says...

ohmywell wrote:
George4th where are you hahahahahahaahahahah ahahaahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaLoud mouth tory pillock. Come on you reds. See you later Roy Drinks on me in the club tonight. WHAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O
See post at 11.08am. He took longer than usual to crawl out of his cript!
I thought that the "madness of George" was George 3rd? Must be hereditary!
[quote][p][bold]ohmywell[/bold] wrote: George4th where are you hahahahahahaahahahah ahahaahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaLoud mouth tory pillock. Come on you reds. See you later Roy Drinks on me in the club tonight. WHAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O[/p][/quote]See post at 11.08am. He took longer than usual to crawl out of his cript! I thought that the "madness of George" was George 3rd? Must be hereditary! Maine Lobster
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11:21am Fri 4 May 12

George4th says...

The Salv wrote:
If you let children vote for what they wanted to eat for dinner for the next 5 years then it wouldn’t take long after meal after meal of sweets and chocolate to have a nation sick un healthy children. Vegetables and Fruit may be boring and unpopular but they lead for a healthy life. Voting for Labour is like voting for sweets, maybe enjoyable at first but then you get diabetes.
Exactly! And we had 13 years so no one has any teeth left!!!!!!!! (Or as a nation - no money!!)
[quote][p][bold]The Salv[/bold] wrote: If you let children vote for what they wanted to eat for dinner for the next 5 years then it wouldn’t take long after meal after meal of sweets and chocolate to have a nation sick un healthy children. Vegetables and Fruit may be boring and unpopular but they lead for a healthy life. Voting for Labour is like voting for sweets, maybe enjoyable at first but then you get diabetes.[/p][/quote]Exactly! And we had 13 years so no one has any teeth left!!!!!!!! (Or as a nation - no money!!) George4th
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11:22am Fri 4 May 12

Over the Edge says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Smartiepants wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.
Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts.
Can't wait to see the unions love affair end.
If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric,
Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them.
the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power.
I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us.
We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away
We said the same this morning, watch your council tax go up next year. Where's the money going to come from eh? Where exactly? Lets see Labour do oh so much better than Tory and then we'll see the same people that are here today revert back to Tory voting. We are here now precisely because Labour cocked up royally the last time they were in.
What exactly do you think the Council Tax is for then? is it a Political football to be kicked about to win votes? As I understand it, it should be used to provide the services that people require and should be balanced to do that. Not held at an unacceptable level that means cuts in services just to gain a few votes.
How can the council tax go up next year?

Eric Pickles gave/will give massive discounts (extra money) to council's who didn't increase the council tax in year 2012/13 and Southampton didn't increase their council tax, therefore the only way council tax will increase is if Labour hand back the discounts and sign away future discounts, if they do that Central Government will fine them, costing more money.

I have no doubt that Pickles gave those discounts (across the country) to councils as an election sweetener for the controlling Tory councils, now the Tories have been battered he could commit political suicide and remove the discounts.

In truth, unless this new administration want to get kicked out in 2 years time they won't increase council tax next, however I wouldn't say the same for Pickles
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Smartiepants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.[/p][/quote]Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts. Can't wait to see the unions love affair end. If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric, Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them. the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power. I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us. We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away[/p][/quote]We said the same this morning, watch your council tax go up next year. Where's the money going to come from eh? Where exactly? Lets see Labour do oh so much better than Tory and then we'll see the same people that are here today revert back to Tory voting. We are here now precisely because Labour cocked up royally the last time they were in.[/p][/quote]What exactly do you think the Council Tax is for then? is it a Political football to be kicked about to win votes? As I understand it, it should be used to provide the services that people require and should be balanced to do that. Not held at an unacceptable level that means cuts in services just to gain a few votes.[/p][/quote]How can the council tax go up next year? Eric Pickles gave/will give massive discounts (extra money) to council's who didn't increase the council tax in year 2012/13 and Southampton didn't increase their council tax, therefore the only way council tax will increase is if Labour hand back the discounts and sign away future discounts, if they do that Central Government will fine them, costing more money. I have no doubt that Pickles gave those discounts (across the country) to councils as an election sweetener for the controlling Tory councils, now the Tories have been battered he could commit political suicide and remove the discounts. In truth, unless this new administration want to get kicked out in 2 years time they won't increase council tax next, however I wouldn't say the same for Pickles Over the Edge
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11:31am Fri 4 May 12

RedArmy1 says...

On to Football Matters :

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON'S RED ARMY AND WE RULE THE SOUTH.

RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMY.
On to Football Matters : WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON'S RED ARMY AND WE RULE THE SOUTH. RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMY. RedArmy1
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11:32am Fri 4 May 12

George4th says...

saintjak wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintjak wrote: A very sad day indeed Back to my taxes being squandered, over spending and appeasing those who contribute the least. Panic always sets in when some might actually have to work for their money or the public sector have to make sacrificies. Well done Southampton and the U.K
Really? Who told you that?
Who told me?

I lived through the 13 years of labour rule...

Labour voters want their fantasy bottomless pitt of money back...

Good luck with that
"Labour voters want their fantasy bottomless pit of money back."
That is so true! Talking to people in the past week or two it is incredible how many did not realise how bad our financial situation is. We were left bankrupt by the last Labour government, mostly because of their outrageous and stupid over-spending (£600 Billion in debt and rising BEFORE the financial crisis!!).
Apart from the deficit and government debt, we still have Trillions of pounds in personal debt too!
Where do these Labour supporters think the money will come from to put our country back on an even footing?
Get used to the fact that our standard of living is declining and will continue to do so - never will it again be as good as it was. You can thank the last Labour government for that. (I'm sure those well known multi-millionnaires Tony Blair, Peter Madelson, Michael Meacher, John Prescott, Geoffrey Robinson, et al, will lend you a few bob if you ask them!!!!)
[quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: A very sad day indeed Back to my taxes being squandered, over spending and appeasing those who contribute the least. Panic always sets in when some might actually have to work for their money or the public sector have to make sacrificies. Well done Southampton and the U.K[/p][/quote]Really? Who told you that?[/p][/quote]Who told me? I lived through the 13 years of labour rule... Labour voters want their fantasy bottomless pitt of money back... Good luck with that[/p][/quote]"Labour voters want their fantasy bottomless pit of money back." That is so true! Talking to people in the past week or two it is incredible how many did not realise how bad our financial situation is. We were left bankrupt by the last Labour government, mostly because of their outrageous and stupid over-spending (£600 Billion in debt and rising BEFORE the financial crisis!!). Apart from the deficit and government debt, we still have Trillions of pounds in personal debt too! Where do these Labour supporters think the money will come from to put our country back on an even footing? Get used to the fact that our standard of living is declining and will continue to do so - never will it again be as good as it was. You can thank the last Labour government for that. (I'm sure those well known multi-millionnaires Tony Blair, Peter Madelson, Michael Meacher, John Prescott, Geoffrey Robinson, et al, will lend you a few bob if you ask them!!!!) George4th
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11:32am Fri 4 May 12

good-gosh says...

The timing is good. Today’s Labour wins will plunge councils into financial disorder again – just in time to impact the next general election – Tories will be safe in Westminster for anther full term.
The timing is good. Today’s Labour wins will plunge councils into financial disorder again – just in time to impact the next general election – Tories will be safe in Westminster for anther full term. good-gosh
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11:33am Fri 4 May 12

mr nobody says...

Miss Laming said we put a lot of hard work into millbrook over last 3-4 yrs were you wanting to be a councillor when you were 15 then and still at school and as for the hard work, you mean other peoples and your party has just lied and said they did it, i would like to see a list of all the work your 2 so called councillors have achieved over last year for millbrook , some how i don't think it would take a large piece of paper to write it on, to much time spent in the pie shops judging by look of Furnell and Thrope i just hope that your lies really do sink you this time .
Miss Laming said we put a lot of hard work into millbrook over last 3-4 yrs were you wanting to be a councillor when you were 15 then and still at school and as for the hard work, you mean other peoples and your party has just lied and said they did it, i would like to see a list of all the work your 2 so called councillors have achieved over last year for millbrook , some how i don't think it would take a large piece of paper to write it on, to much time spent in the pie shops judging by look of Furnell and Thrope i just hope that your lies really do sink you this time . mr nobody
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11:33am Fri 4 May 12

mr nobody says...

Miss Laming said we put a lot of hard work into millbrook over last 3-4 yrs were you wanting to be a councillor when you were 15 then and still at school and as for the hard work, you mean other peoples and your party has just lied and said they did it, i would like to see a list of all the work your 2 so called councillors have achieved over last year for millbrook , some how i don't think it would take a large piece of paper to write it on, to much time spent in the pie shops judging by look of Furnell and Thrope i just hope that your lies really do sink you this time .
Miss Laming said we put a lot of hard work into millbrook over last 3-4 yrs were you wanting to be a councillor when you were 15 then and still at school and as for the hard work, you mean other peoples and your party has just lied and said they did it, i would like to see a list of all the work your 2 so called councillors have achieved over last year for millbrook , some how i don't think it would take a large piece of paper to write it on, to much time spent in the pie shops judging by look of Furnell and Thrope i just hope that your lies really do sink you this time . mr nobody
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11:33am Fri 4 May 12

mr nobody says...

Miss Laming said we put a lot of hard work into millbrook over last 3-4 yrs were you wanting to be a councillor when you were 15 then and still at school and as for the hard work, you mean other peoples and your party has just lied and said they did it, i would like to see a list of all the work your 2 so called councillors have achieved over last year for millbrook , some how i don't think it would take a large piece of paper to write it on, to much time spent in the pie shops judging by look of Furnell and Thrope i just hope that your lies really do sink you this time .
Miss Laming said we put a lot of hard work into millbrook over last 3-4 yrs were you wanting to be a councillor when you were 15 then and still at school and as for the hard work, you mean other peoples and your party has just lied and said they did it, i would like to see a list of all the work your 2 so called councillors have achieved over last year for millbrook , some how i don't think it would take a large piece of paper to write it on, to much time spent in the pie shops judging by look of Furnell and Thrope i just hope that your lies really do sink you this time . mr nobody
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11:37am Fri 4 May 12

Taskforce 141 says...

chunky_lover wrote:
This is the trouble with allowing the working classes a vote.
I seriously hope this was a joke and not serious!
[quote][p][bold]chunky_lover[/bold] wrote: This is the trouble with allowing the working classes a vote.[/p][/quote]I seriously hope this was a joke and not serious! Taskforce 141
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11:40am Fri 4 May 12

Condor Man says...

As per Kinnock in 1992, will the last person to leave Southampton please turn out the light. The middle classes will eventually all move to Chandlers Ford and Romsey to get their kids into decent schools. What'll be there for those who can't afford to move out?
As per Kinnock in 1992, will the last person to leave Southampton please turn out the light. The middle classes will eventually all move to Chandlers Ford and Romsey to get their kids into decent schools. What'll be there for those who can't afford to move out? Condor Man
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11:42am Fri 4 May 12

mr nobody says...

Miss Laming said we put a lot of hard work into millbrook over last 3-4 yrs were you wanting to be a councillor when you were 15 then and still at school and as for the hard work, you mean other peoples and your party has just lied and said they did it, i would like to see a list of all the work your 2 so called councillors have achieved over last year for millbrook , some how i don't think it would take a large piece of paper to write it on, to much time spent in the pie shops judging by look of Furnell and Thrope i just hope that your lies really do sink you this time .
Miss Laming said we put a lot of hard work into millbrook over last 3-4 yrs were you wanting to be a councillor when you were 15 then and still at school and as for the hard work, you mean other peoples and your party has just lied and said they did it, i would like to see a list of all the work your 2 so called councillors have achieved over last year for millbrook , some how i don't think it would take a large piece of paper to write it on, to much time spent in the pie shops judging by look of Furnell and Thrope i just hope that your lies really do sink you this time . mr nobody
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11:55am Fri 4 May 12

saintmark1977 says...

Are the results a surprise? I think not. Just look at the evidence.

1. An unelected government and a Tory Prime Minister without a mandate who appears to be a serial "Flip Flopper".Does he actually believe in anything?.
2. A deputy Prime minister who imediately goes back on a signed promise to students.
3.A rise in unemployment together with a double dip recession and a failed state supported banking system which will still will not lend enough money to business despite massive bonuses being paid for failure.
4. A top down reorganisation of the N H S despite a promise not to do so.
5. An attack on the genuine sick and disabled by reducing their benefits whilst also reducing income tax for the very rich.

The best solutions they can come up with?

1. A tax on Gran and Grandad.
2. A tax on pasties but only if they are hot!
3. A petrol strike panic when there was no strike.

Quite honestly you could not have got a clean sheet of paper and made it up!

Get a grip Mr Cameron or it will not be the Labour party who will be comming to get you.It will be the Tory party men in grey suits.
Are the results a surprise? I think not. Just look at the evidence. 1. An unelected government and a Tory Prime Minister without a mandate who appears to be a serial "Flip Flopper".Does he actually believe in anything?. 2. A deputy Prime minister who imediately goes back on a signed promise to students. 3.A rise in unemployment together with a double dip recession and a failed state supported banking system which will still will not lend enough money to business despite massive bonuses being paid for failure. 4. A top down reorganisation of the N H S despite a promise not to do so. 5. An attack on the genuine sick and disabled by reducing their benefits whilst also reducing income tax for the very rich. The best solutions they can come up with? 1. A tax on Gran and Grandad. 2. A tax on pasties but only if they are hot! 3. A petrol strike panic when there was no strike. Quite honestly you could not have got a clean sheet of paper and made it up! Get a grip Mr Cameron or it will not be the Labour party who will be comming to get you.It will be the Tory party men in grey suits. saintmark1977
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11:58am Fri 4 May 12

Lone Ranger. says...

Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election.
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But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation.
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Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories.
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Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others.
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He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ......
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His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated.
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The people of this City do not want a Tory Council.
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Get over it !!
Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !! Lone Ranger.
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11:59am Fri 4 May 12

Smartiepants says...

George4th wrote:
saintjak wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
saintjak wrote: A very sad day indeed Back to my taxes being squandered, over spending and appeasing those who contribute the least. Panic always sets in when some might actually have to work for their money or the public sector have to make sacrificies. Well done Southampton and the U.K
Really? Who told you that?
Who told me?

I lived through the 13 years of labour rule...

Labour voters want their fantasy bottomless pitt of money back...

Good luck with that
"Labour voters want their fantasy bottomless pit of money back."
That is so true! Talking to people in the past week or two it is incredible how many did not realise how bad our financial situation is. We were left bankrupt by the last Labour government, mostly because of their outrageous and stupid over-spending (£600 Billion in debt and rising BEFORE the financial crisis!!).
Apart from the deficit and government debt, we still have Trillions of pounds in personal debt too!
Where do these Labour supporters think the money will come from to put our country back on an even footing?
Get used to the fact that our standard of living is declining and will continue to do so - never will it again be as good as it was. You can thank the last Labour government for that. (I'm sure those well known multi-millionnaires Tony Blair, Peter Madelson, Michael Meacher, John Prescott, Geoffrey Robinson, et al, will lend you a few bob if you ask them!!!!)
Excellent post. Reality Vs Fantasy. It doesn't grow on trees but I guess some people are terribly deluded and think it does.
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: A very sad day indeed Back to my taxes being squandered, over spending and appeasing those who contribute the least. Panic always sets in when some might actually have to work for their money or the public sector have to make sacrificies. Well done Southampton and the U.K[/p][/quote]Really? Who told you that?[/p][/quote]Who told me? I lived through the 13 years of labour rule... Labour voters want their fantasy bottomless pitt of money back... Good luck with that[/p][/quote]"Labour voters want their fantasy bottomless pit of money back." That is so true! Talking to people in the past week or two it is incredible how many did not realise how bad our financial situation is. We were left bankrupt by the last Labour government, mostly because of their outrageous and stupid over-spending (£600 Billion in debt and rising BEFORE the financial crisis!!). Apart from the deficit and government debt, we still have Trillions of pounds in personal debt too! Where do these Labour supporters think the money will come from to put our country back on an even footing? Get used to the fact that our standard of living is declining and will continue to do so - never will it again be as good as it was. You can thank the last Labour government for that. (I'm sure those well known multi-millionnaires Tony Blair, Peter Madelson, Michael Meacher, John Prescott, Geoffrey Robinson, et al, will lend you a few bob if you ask them!!!!)[/p][/quote]Excellent post. Reality Vs Fantasy. It doesn't grow on trees but I guess some people are terribly deluded and think it does. Smartiepants
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12:02pm Fri 4 May 12

The Salv says...

George4th wrote:
Nothing fundamentally changes how politics work in the UK. The Tories will give you prosperity and aspiration. Labour will give you wastefulness. It is amazing how Labour voters can't wake up to this fact! If you don't believe it, check out the UK, area by area........... > The best result of the night? The Respect Party won the seat of the Labour Council Leader in Bradford!! Now that was a result!! The Respect Party won a total of 5 Seats - amazing! > So, what will happen is that Eastleigh, Winchester, Portsmouth, Bournemouth will continue to prosper with new businesses and jobs while Southampton will languish for the foreseeable future - sad, but true............ > Young graduates, leave the City NOW!!
Exactley what I am planning to do. Labour has already done enough damage to my career. Thank god the Tories came in and it is starting to look good again.
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: Nothing fundamentally changes how politics work in the UK. The Tories will give you prosperity and aspiration. Labour will give you wastefulness. It is amazing how Labour voters can't wake up to this fact! If you don't believe it, check out the UK, area by area........... > The best result of the night? The Respect Party won the seat of the Labour Council Leader in Bradford!! Now that was a result!! The Respect Party won a total of 5 Seats - amazing! > So, what will happen is that Eastleigh, Winchester, Portsmouth, Bournemouth will continue to prosper with new businesses and jobs while Southampton will languish for the foreseeable future - sad, but true............ > Young graduates, leave the City NOW!![/p][/quote]Exactley what I am planning to do. Labour has already done enough damage to my career. Thank god the Tories came in and it is starting to look good again. The Salv
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12:04pm Fri 4 May 12

George4th says...

saintmark1977 wrote:
Are the results a surprise? I think not. Just look at the evidence.

1. An unelected government and a Tory Prime Minister without a mandate who appears to be a serial "Flip Flopper".Does he actually believe in anything?.
2. A deputy Prime minister who imediately goes back on a signed promise to students.
3.A rise in unemployment together with a double dip recession and a failed state supported banking system which will still will not lend enough money to business despite massive bonuses being paid for failure.
4. A top down reorganisation of the N H S despite a promise not to do so.
5. An attack on the genuine sick and disabled by reducing their benefits whilst also reducing income tax for the very rich.

The best solutions they can come up with?

1. A tax on Gran and Grandad.
2. A tax on pasties but only if they are hot!
3. A petrol strike panic when there was no strike.

Quite honestly you could not have got a clean sheet of paper and made it up!

Get a grip Mr Cameron or it will not be the Labour party who will be comming to get you.It will be the Tory party men in grey suits.
So we ignore the £1000 Billion debt, and rising ,that Labour left us with? Do we ignore the Deficit?
We had no debt when Labour came to power. They stupidly followed the USA and Deregulated the Financial Sector to boost their spending through additional tax revenues. They the completely forgot to put in any fail-safe regulations!!!
The country was £600 Billion in debt and rising BEFORE the financial crisis!!! Vince Cable warned them in 2006 what was going to happen!!
>
Labour governments have now bankrupted us twice on the trot. Who wants to go for the Hat-trick?!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]saintmark1977[/bold] wrote: Are the results a surprise? I think not. Just look at the evidence. 1. An unelected government and a Tory Prime Minister without a mandate who appears to be a serial "Flip Flopper".Does he actually believe in anything?. 2. A deputy Prime minister who imediately goes back on a signed promise to students. 3.A rise in unemployment together with a double dip recession and a failed state supported banking system which will still will not lend enough money to business despite massive bonuses being paid for failure. 4. A top down reorganisation of the N H S despite a promise not to do so. 5. An attack on the genuine sick and disabled by reducing their benefits whilst also reducing income tax for the very rich. The best solutions they can come up with? 1. A tax on Gran and Grandad. 2. A tax on pasties but only if they are hot! 3. A petrol strike panic when there was no strike. Quite honestly you could not have got a clean sheet of paper and made it up! Get a grip Mr Cameron or it will not be the Labour party who will be comming to get you.It will be the Tory party men in grey suits.[/p][/quote]So we ignore the £1000 Billion debt, and rising ,that Labour left us with? Do we ignore the Deficit? We had no debt when Labour came to power. They stupidly followed the USA and Deregulated the Financial Sector to boost their spending through additional tax revenues. They the completely forgot to put in any fail-safe regulations!!! The country was £600 Billion in debt and rising BEFORE the financial crisis!!! Vince Cable warned them in 2006 what was going to happen!! > Labour governments have now bankrupted us twice on the trot. Who wants to go for the Hat-trick?!!!!!!! George4th
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12:25pm Fri 4 May 12

loosehead says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So blackmail does work!
What a sad day to be a Southampton resident.
Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories
Can you explain this blackmail accusation? If there has been any sort of criminal activity it is your duty to present the evidence to the authorities, I am happy if the Labour victory was done by democratic voting, but if there has been any illegal activity we should be told, or is this just knee jerk reaction from a bad loser?
Didn't you have your glasses on when the unions in an article in this paper said if Labour wins we'll cease our industrial actions if the Tories win we'll continue?
Talking to a refuse collector today ( surprisingly early) if they don't have their pay restored immediately they will carry on with legal action & industrial action.
Tell me this how the hell can a private company (sports) get promotion have any link to voting Labour as some posts have said?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So blackmail does work! What a sad day to be a Southampton resident. Can't wait for the lies to come out & post the same vile at Labour as you have thrown at the Tories[/p][/quote]Can you explain this blackmail accusation? If there has been any sort of criminal activity it is your duty to present the evidence to the authorities, I am happy if the Labour victory was done by democratic voting, but if there has been any illegal activity we should be told, or is this just knee jerk reaction from a bad loser?[/p][/quote]Didn't you have your glasses on when the unions in an article in this paper said if Labour wins we'll cease our industrial actions if the Tories win we'll continue? Talking to a refuse collector today ( surprisingly early) if they don't have their pay restored immediately they will carry on with legal action & industrial action. Tell me this how the hell can a private company (sports) get promotion have any link to voting Labour as some posts have said? loosehead
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12:27pm Fri 4 May 12

good-gosh says...

I have read all these posts this morning. My conclusion is – the Echo needs a faster server.
I have read all these posts this morning. My conclusion is – the Echo needs a faster server. good-gosh
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12:29pm Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

The turn out for England and wales work out a poor 32% as a whole.
The turn out for England and wales work out a poor 32% as a whole. southy
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12:30pm Fri 4 May 12

loosehead says...

dave1958 wrote:
mr nobody wrote:
Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests
in the community , people what were you thinking .
Mr Nobody, I bet you did not complain when the 18 year old tories took their seats four years ago.
As for living in the ward, the defetated Conservative Councillor DOES NOT even live in Southampton, at least the 3 Millbrook Councillors do, and they are contactable.
Just a point of accuracy for Condor Man Jenks as you call him, was not standing as a candidate last night.
All councillors have to live in the city that's why an extremely good councillor had to stand down as he moved so your comment is wrong
[quote][p][bold]dave1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr nobody[/bold] wrote: Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests in the community , people what were you thinking .[/p][/quote]Mr Nobody, I bet you did not complain when the 18 year old tories took their seats four years ago. As for living in the ward, the defetated Conservative Councillor DOES NOT even live in Southampton, at least the 3 Millbrook Councillors do, and they are contactable. Just a point of accuracy for Condor Man Jenks as you call him, was not standing as a candidate last night.[/p][/quote]All councillors have to live in the city that's why an extremely good councillor had to stand down as he moved so your comment is wrong loosehead
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12:32pm Fri 4 May 12

saintmark1977 says...

George4th

Please, have I said anything about ignoring the deficit?

However, as you bring it up perhaps you can enlighten us as to how after two (or is it three?) coalition budgets we still have increased national debt, no growth and higher unemployment than in May 2010?

In regard to financial regulation and spending Mr Cameron is on record when in opposition as saying that there was too much regulation and if elected he would at least match Labour's spending!

As I posted previously the man gives every indication of being a Flip Flopper with no real idea as to why he has become an unelected Prime Minister without a mandate, a fact that the public appears to be waking up to.
George4th Please, have I said anything about ignoring the deficit? However, as you bring it up perhaps you can enlighten us as to how after two (or is it three?) coalition budgets we still have increased national debt, no growth and higher unemployment than in May 2010? In regard to financial regulation and spending Mr Cameron is on record when in opposition as saying that there was too much regulation and if elected he would at least match Labour's spending! As I posted previously the man gives every indication of being a Flip Flopper with no real idea as to why he has become an unelected Prime Minister without a mandate, a fact that the public appears to be waking up to. saintmark1977
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12:39pm Fri 4 May 12

Lambo1976 says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
Well done you Tories, not the result I wanted, but that's the people's choice.
Roll on 2014, who knows the Tories may be back?Again voters rule, that's how it should be.
Well done to all candidates that stood for all parties, you make politics interesting and protect democracy.
What a complete load of tosh!, never heard so much rubbish,
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: Well done you Tories, not the result I wanted, but that's the people's choice. Roll on 2014, who knows the Tories may be back?Again voters rule, that's how it should be. Well done to all candidates that stood for all parties, you make politics interesting and protect democracy.[/p][/quote]What a complete load of tosh!, never heard so much rubbish, Lambo1976
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12:39pm Fri 4 May 12

loosehead says...

Labour want more jobs yet they're4 opposed to Lidl's building a new warehouse creating 400 jobs for people from Millbrook & Lordshill.
Will they now knock down the Sea City museum? will they stop the building of the Arts Centre & the expansion of Mayflower park so losing the Boat Show.
Will they not go ahead with the plans for the Fruit & Veg quarter or the new Train station quarter?
As I've said I will wait & see but it looks like I will have plenty to complain about!
On here you people have ridiculed & suggested quite blatantly that Royston arranged the shooting on the submarine to gain votes & even now your ridiculing him so bring it on I can quite happily sit back & say I told you so!
When's the General Election? thought it was Thursday after the way the unions & Labour fought against a local council well could be the best thing going for the prospective Tory MP's. Two years of Labour rule how many votes will switch back to the Tory Party?
Please explain to me where the hell 1,500 homes are to be built?
Labour want more jobs yet they're4 opposed to Lidl's building a new warehouse creating 400 jobs for people from Millbrook & Lordshill. Will they now knock down the Sea City museum? will they stop the building of the Arts Centre & the expansion of Mayflower park so losing the Boat Show. Will they not go ahead with the plans for the Fruit & Veg quarter or the new Train station quarter? As I've said I will wait & see but it looks like I will have plenty to complain about! On here you people have ridiculed & suggested quite blatantly that Royston arranged the shooting on the submarine to gain votes & even now your ridiculing him so bring it on I can quite happily sit back & say I told you so! When's the General Election? thought it was Thursday after the way the unions & Labour fought against a local council well could be the best thing going for the prospective Tory MP's. Two years of Labour rule how many votes will switch back to the Tory Party? Please explain to me where the hell 1,500 homes are to be built? loosehead
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12:41pm Fri 4 May 12

George4th says...

saintmark1977 wrote:
George4th

Please, have I said anything about ignoring the deficit?

However, as you bring it up perhaps you can enlighten us as to how after two (or is it three?) coalition budgets we still have increased national debt, no growth and higher unemployment than in May 2010?

In regard to financial regulation and spending Mr Cameron is on record when in opposition as saying that there was too much regulation and if elected he would at least match Labour's spending!

As I posted previously the man gives every indication of being a Flip Flopper with no real idea as to why he has become an unelected Prime Minister without a mandate, a fact that the public appears to be waking up to.
We increased the national debt mainly because we have the run on from Labour's spending commitments plus the unforeseen problems in the eurozone. Unless you have been hiding under a stone (and a lot of people seem to have been!), we have the same kind of problems as Greece, Spain, Ireland, Portugal etc but because we have shown the markets that we can work our way out of it they allow us a Triple rating which means lower borrowing costs - if we did not have these low interest rates we would be further in the mire.
>
If you recall, for the first two years of their government, Labour followed the Tory plans, successfully! After two years they went their own way and the rest is history!!!! Labour was and is, a party of wastefulness - it has never been any other way..........In the end they do not help those that they pretend to help which is why the gap between the have and the have nots WIDENED under Labour!!
[quote][p][bold]saintmark1977[/bold] wrote: George4th Please, have I said anything about ignoring the deficit? However, as you bring it up perhaps you can enlighten us as to how after two (or is it three?) coalition budgets we still have increased national debt, no growth and higher unemployment than in May 2010? In regard to financial regulation and spending Mr Cameron is on record when in opposition as saying that there was too much regulation and if elected he would at least match Labour's spending! As I posted previously the man gives every indication of being a Flip Flopper with no real idea as to why he has become an unelected Prime Minister without a mandate, a fact that the public appears to be waking up to.[/p][/quote]We increased the national debt mainly because we have the run on from Labour's spending commitments plus the unforeseen problems in the eurozone. Unless you have been hiding under a stone (and a lot of people seem to have been!), we have the same kind of problems as Greece, Spain, Ireland, Portugal etc but because we have shown the markets that we can work our way out of it they allow us a Triple rating which means lower borrowing costs - if we did not have these low interest rates we would be further in the mire. > If you recall, for the first two years of their government, Labour followed the Tory plans, successfully! After two years they went their own way and the rest is history!!!! Labour was and is, a party of wastefulness - it has never been any other way..........In the end they do not help those that they pretend to help which is why the gap between the have and the have nots WIDENED under Labour!! George4th
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12:46pm Fri 4 May 12

ssnaked23 says...

Regardless of my political leanings, what saddens me is the overall turnout. I currently dont know the actual figure but think that it is sad that not enough people take an interest in the politics of our country and more so locally for their city/town, so on that note, I hope that those people who then whinge about how their city is being run had voted, if they hadnt they had had the opportunity to vote and squandered it. Thats why our forefathers fought hard for all of those to have the right to vote. I really hope the Labour run council can make a difference to our city, but I wont hold my breath. Previous councils of all parties have, I believe failed this city in the past. Its time they actually listen to what the people of the city want, not what the councillors think we want and also looking to further their own profile/ego.
As they say, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, its now over to you, the Labour councillors to prove yourselves.
Regardless of my political leanings, what saddens me is the overall turnout. I currently dont know the actual figure but think that it is sad that not enough people take an interest in the politics of our country and more so locally for their city/town, so on that note, I hope that those people who then whinge about how their city is being run had voted, if they hadnt they had had the opportunity to vote and squandered it. Thats why our forefathers fought hard for all of those to have the right to vote. I really hope the Labour run council can make a difference to our city, but I wont hold my breath. Previous councils of all parties have, I believe failed this city in the past. Its time they actually listen to what the people of the city want, not what the councillors think we want and also looking to further their own profile/ego. As they say, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, its now over to you, the Labour councillors to prove yourselves. ssnaked23
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12:47pm Fri 4 May 12

loosehead says...

Over the Edge wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Smartiepants wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.
Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts.
Can't wait to see the unions love affair end.
If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric,
Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them.
the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power.
I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us.
We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away
We said the same this morning, watch your council tax go up next year. Where's the money going to come from eh? Where exactly? Lets see Labour do oh so much better than Tory and then we'll see the same people that are here today revert back to Tory voting. We are here now precisely because Labour cocked up royally the last time they were in.
What exactly do you think the Council Tax is for then? is it a Political football to be kicked about to win votes? As I understand it, it should be used to provide the services that people require and should be balanced to do that. Not held at an unacceptable level that means cuts in services just to gain a few votes.
How can the council tax go up next year?

Eric Pickles gave/will give massive discounts (extra money) to council's who didn't increase the council tax in year 2012/13 and Southampton didn't increase their council tax, therefore the only way council tax will increase is if Labour hand back the discounts and sign away future discounts, if they do that Central Government will fine them, costing more money.

I have no doubt that Pickles gave those discounts (across the country) to councils as an election sweetener for the controlling Tory councils, now the Tories have been battered he could commit political suicide and remove the discounts.

In truth, unless this new administration want to get kicked out in 2 years time they won't increase council tax next, however I wouldn't say the same for Pickles
You've got that one wrong this financial year ( from April) was the second year next April Labour can increase it if that's what they want to do, Take a look at Brighton & what the Green party did.
Over the edge please tell me how they're going to restore all pay ?
do you honestly believe the unions are going to sit back & wait until after the General Election?
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Smartiepants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.[/p][/quote]Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts. Can't wait to see the unions love affair end. If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric, Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them. the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power. I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us. We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away[/p][/quote]We said the same this morning, watch your council tax go up next year. Where's the money going to come from eh? Where exactly? Lets see Labour do oh so much better than Tory and then we'll see the same people that are here today revert back to Tory voting. We are here now precisely because Labour cocked up royally the last time they were in.[/p][/quote]What exactly do you think the Council Tax is for then? is it a Political football to be kicked about to win votes? As I understand it, it should be used to provide the services that people require and should be balanced to do that. Not held at an unacceptable level that means cuts in services just to gain a few votes.[/p][/quote]How can the council tax go up next year? Eric Pickles gave/will give massive discounts (extra money) to council's who didn't increase the council tax in year 2012/13 and Southampton didn't increase their council tax, therefore the only way council tax will increase is if Labour hand back the discounts and sign away future discounts, if they do that Central Government will fine them, costing more money. I have no doubt that Pickles gave those discounts (across the country) to councils as an election sweetener for the controlling Tory councils, now the Tories have been battered he could commit political suicide and remove the discounts. In truth, unless this new administration want to get kicked out in 2 years time they won't increase council tax next, however I wouldn't say the same for Pickles[/p][/quote]You've got that one wrong this financial year ( from April) was the second year next April Labour can increase it if that's what they want to do, Take a look at Brighton & what the Green party did. Over the edge please tell me how they're going to restore all pay ? do you honestly believe the unions are going to sit back & wait until after the General Election? loosehead
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1:00pm Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

loosehead wrote:
dave1958 wrote:
mr nobody wrote:
Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests
in the community , people what were you thinking .
Mr Nobody, I bet you did not complain when the 18 year old tories took their seats four years ago.
As for living in the ward, the defetated Conservative Councillor DOES NOT even live in Southampton, at least the 3 Millbrook Councillors do, and they are contactable.
Just a point of accuracy for Condor Man Jenks as you call him, was not standing as a candidate last night.
All councillors have to live in the city that's why an extremely good councillor had to stand down as he moved so your comment is wrong
Loose "No" Councillors must live in the City or Work in the City
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr nobody[/bold] wrote: Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests in the community , people what were you thinking .[/p][/quote]Mr Nobody, I bet you did not complain when the 18 year old tories took their seats four years ago. As for living in the ward, the defetated Conservative Councillor DOES NOT even live in Southampton, at least the 3 Millbrook Councillors do, and they are contactable. Just a point of accuracy for Condor Man Jenks as you call him, was not standing as a candidate last night.[/p][/quote]All councillors have to live in the city that's why an extremely good councillor had to stand down as he moved so your comment is wrong[/p][/quote]Loose "No" Councillors must live in the City or Work in the City southy
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1:09pm Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

ssnaked23 wrote:
Regardless of my political leanings, what saddens me is the overall turnout. I currently dont know the actual figure but think that it is sad that not enough people take an interest in the politics of our country and more so locally for their city/town, so on that note, I hope that those people who then whinge about how their city is being run had voted, if they hadnt they had had the opportunity to vote and squandered it. Thats why our forefathers fought hard for all of those to have the right to vote. I really hope the Labour run council can make a difference to our city, but I wont hold my breath. Previous councils of all parties have, I believe failed this city in the past. Its time they actually listen to what the people of the city want, not what the councillors think we want and also looking to further their own profile/ego.
As they say, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, its now over to you, the Labour councillors to prove yourselves.
Redbridge Ward drop even lower than last year, the turn out for Redbridge was 27.81%
[quote][p][bold]ssnaked23[/bold] wrote: Regardless of my political leanings, what saddens me is the overall turnout. I currently dont know the actual figure but think that it is sad that not enough people take an interest in the politics of our country and more so locally for their city/town, so on that note, I hope that those people who then whinge about how their city is being run had voted, if they hadnt they had had the opportunity to vote and squandered it. Thats why our forefathers fought hard for all of those to have the right to vote. I really hope the Labour run council can make a difference to our city, but I wont hold my breath. Previous councils of all parties have, I believe failed this city in the past. Its time they actually listen to what the people of the city want, not what the councillors think we want and also looking to further their own profile/ego. As they say, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, its now over to you, the Labour councillors to prove yourselves.[/p][/quote]Redbridge Ward drop even lower than last year, the turn out for Redbridge was 27.81% southy
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1:12pm Fri 4 May 12

ohmywell says...

George4th QUOTE "WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS AS GREECE SPAIN IRELAND PORTUGAL"hahahahahah
ahahahahahahahahahah
ahahahahahahaI was right you have not got a clue. Why dont you stickyour head where the sun does not shine dribble drivel and cr*p!
George4th QUOTE "WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS AS GREECE SPAIN IRELAND PORTUGAL"hahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahaI was right you have not got a clue. Why dont you stickyour head where the sun does not shine dribble drivel and cr*p! ohmywell
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1:14pm Fri 4 May 12

nedscrumpo says...

So we get our pay cuts restored! Well done Southampton voters.
So we get our pay cuts restored! Well done Southampton voters. nedscrumpo
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1:24pm Fri 4 May 12

Over the Edge says...

George4th wrote:
Nothing fundamentally changes how politics work in the UK.
The Tories will give you prosperity and aspiration. Labour will give you wastefulness. It is amazing how Labour voters can't wake up to this fact! If you don't believe it, check out the UK, area by area...........
>
The best result of the night? The Respect Party won the seat of the Labour Council Leader in Bradford!! Now that was a result!! The Respect Party won a total of 5 Seats - amazing!
>
So, what will happen is that Eastleigh, Winchester, Portsmouth, Bournemouth will continue to prosper with new businesses and jobs while Southampton will languish for the foreseeable future - sad, but true............
>
Young graduates, leave the City NOW!!
So the people of Southampton are wrong for exercising their democratic right and of course you (the font of knowledge) are right.

Your party lost by a landslide, not just by the seats needed, they actually took more seat off the Tories.

As for calling the young graduate to leave the city, there is no need for such rhetoric, the Tory rise in tuition fees will make sure there aren't many more coming to the cities universities.
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: Nothing fundamentally changes how politics work in the UK. The Tories will give you prosperity and aspiration. Labour will give you wastefulness. It is amazing how Labour voters can't wake up to this fact! If you don't believe it, check out the UK, area by area........... > The best result of the night? The Respect Party won the seat of the Labour Council Leader in Bradford!! Now that was a result!! The Respect Party won a total of 5 Seats - amazing! > So, what will happen is that Eastleigh, Winchester, Portsmouth, Bournemouth will continue to prosper with new businesses and jobs while Southampton will languish for the foreseeable future - sad, but true............ > Young graduates, leave the City NOW!![/p][/quote]So the people of Southampton are wrong for exercising their democratic right and of course you (the font of knowledge) are right. Your party lost by a landslide, not just by the seats needed, they actually took more seat off the Tories. As for calling the young graduate to leave the city, there is no need for such rhetoric, the Tory rise in tuition fees will make sure there aren't many more coming to the cities universities. Over the Edge
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1:28pm Fri 4 May 12

Saintlygirl says...

I'm gutted - I don't vote for a Tory Government, but do for the Council. We currently have frozen Council Tax and weekly bein colllections - no more! Royston Smith is completely a gentleman but Richard Williams is a pompous unapproachable person and people like him I hate.
I'm gutted - I don't vote for a Tory Government, but do for the Council. We currently have frozen Council Tax and weekly bein colllections - no more! Royston Smith is completely a gentleman but Richard Williams is a pompous unapproachable person and people like him I hate. Saintlygirl
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1:45pm Fri 4 May 12

saintjak says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election.
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But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation.
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Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories.
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Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others.
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He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ......
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His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated.
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The people of this City do not want a Tory Council.
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Get over it !!
go on just say it

'its Thatchers fault'

brilliant...

why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right?

No? ok then I will.

The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party!

Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !![/p][/quote]go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault. saintjak
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1:45pm Fri 4 May 12

saintmark1977 says...

George4th

With respect you appear fixated by the deficit.

However, despite this fixation (or perhaps because of it) you appear unable to connect with the fact that no progress has been made toward its successful resolution since May 2010.

Your rational is to be to blame the situation on anybody but Mr Cameron, including (but no doubt not limited to) the previous Labour Government and/or the Eurozone.

Again, with respect, Mr Cameron was elected (or in his case not) and it is his job to pick up the problem and try to resolve it.If after two years his answer is increased debt, no growth and higher unemployment then clearly the signal given is that he is simply not up to the job, a fact that yesterdays electorate appear to have had no problem in telling him.
George4th With respect you appear fixated by the deficit. However, despite this fixation (or perhaps because of it) you appear unable to connect with the fact that no progress has been made toward its successful resolution since May 2010. Your rational is to be to blame the situation on anybody but Mr Cameron, including (but no doubt not limited to) the previous Labour Government and/or the Eurozone. Again, with respect, Mr Cameron was elected (or in his case not) and it is his job to pick up the problem and try to resolve it.If after two years his answer is increased debt, no growth and higher unemployment then clearly the signal given is that he is simply not up to the job, a fact that yesterdays electorate appear to have had no problem in telling him. saintmark1977
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1:52pm Fri 4 May 12

Brock_and_Roll says...

Some help needed here please.

Without getting into party politics, can someone please explain in simple terms how the incoming Labour council is going to eliminate the £45m budget deficit.

Obviously the previous administration did not do it (or did not not get time to do it) and the Labour candidates were promising to reverse some cuts.

So does anyone know where Labour are planning to make cuts as presumably they have to balance the budget?
Some help needed here please. Without getting into party politics, can someone please explain in simple terms how the incoming Labour council is going to eliminate the £45m budget deficit. Obviously the previous administration did not do it (or did not not get time to do it) and the Labour candidates were promising to reverse some cuts. So does anyone know where Labour are planning to make cuts as presumably they have to balance the budget? Brock_and_Roll
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1:53pm Fri 4 May 12

Dan Soton says...

don't want to be a party pooper but some of you here are forgetting the 2009 lesson.
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the majority of career politicians are bogus rogues that should be kept in check.
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the guy on last nights BBC's Question Time got it right.. all politicians should undergo regular Lie detector tests.

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Margaret Moran 'unfit to plead' over MP expenses charges

http://tinyurl.com/c
7k89mo
don't want to be a party pooper but some of you here are forgetting the 2009 lesson. - the majority of career politicians are bogus rogues that should be kept in check. - the guy on last nights BBC's Question Time got it right.. all politicians should undergo regular Lie detector tests. ---------- Margaret Moran 'unfit to plead' over MP expenses charges http://tinyurl.com/c 7k89mo Dan Soton
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1:56pm Fri 4 May 12

Dave of Dibden says...

Thank goodness I live outside Southampton and will not have to pay the huge council tax increases that are about to hit the city now that Labour have the purse strings under their control
Thank goodness I live outside Southampton and will not have to pay the huge council tax increases that are about to hit the city now that Labour have the purse strings under their control Dave of Dibden
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2:00pm Fri 4 May 12

Over the Edge says...

loosehead wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Smartiepants wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.
Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts.
Can't wait to see the unions love affair end.
If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric,
Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them.
the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power.
I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us.
We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away
We said the same this morning, watch your council tax go up next year. Where's the money going to come from eh? Where exactly? Lets see Labour do oh so much better than Tory and then we'll see the same people that are here today revert back to Tory voting. We are here now precisely because Labour cocked up royally the last time they were in.
What exactly do you think the Council Tax is for then? is it a Political football to be kicked about to win votes? As I understand it, it should be used to provide the services that people require and should be balanced to do that. Not held at an unacceptable level that means cuts in services just to gain a few votes.
How can the council tax go up next year?

Eric Pickles gave/will give massive discounts (extra money) to council's who didn't increase the council tax in year 2012/13 and Southampton didn't increase their council tax, therefore the only way council tax will increase is if Labour hand back the discounts and sign away future discounts, if they do that Central Government will fine them, costing more money.

I have no doubt that Pickles gave those discounts (across the country) to councils as an election sweetener for the controlling Tory councils, now the Tories have been battered he could commit political suicide and remove the discounts.

In truth, unless this new administration want to get kicked out in 2 years time they won't increase council tax next, however I wouldn't say the same for Pickles
You've got that one wrong this financial year ( from April) was the second year next April Labour can increase it if that's what they want to do, Take a look at Brighton & what the Green party did.
Over the edge please tell me how they're going to restore all pay ?
do you honestly believe the unions are going to sit back & wait until after the General Election?
In 2011 every local authority in the country accepted a 4 year deal to council tax freeze until 2015, unless that has been changed by the coalition (The Tories) then council will remain the same.

I am aware of the Green party's decision in B&H and of the others who have since opted out, they choose to do that, as I stated before that would be the only way this administration could do it, for me that is political suicide.

I am not a financier however I do know paying extortionate salaries plus pensions to council manager and executives is bleeding the city dry, so maybe Labour will attack the haves whereas the Tories attacked the have nots.

The decision has been made, the people have chosen, we have two years to find out, if they fail to deliver they go the of Royston.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Smartiepants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: wait for the £34 million cuts in services most will come in the second year of office, with the lost of 1,500 jobs.[/p][/quote]Southy to do everything Labour have promised to do either the council tax will have to go up by about £15-20 a month or there will have to be drastic job cuts. Can't wait to see the unions love affair end. If going by Don Thomas's article Can't wait to see the Bio-Mass being built & seeing Freemantle girls anti labour rhetoric, Southy the biggest joke of this are the people who bought their council homes & now are voting Labour meaning no one else has the same option as them. the saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time but not all the people all of the time" seems to be quoted wrongly here it should be you can Blackmail all the residents to gain power. I can't believe Labour are proud at winning that way & should serve as a serious warning to us. We're in the S+it & have two years before we can wipe it away[/p][/quote]We said the same this morning, watch your council tax go up next year. Where's the money going to come from eh? Where exactly? Lets see Labour do oh so much better than Tory and then we'll see the same people that are here today revert back to Tory voting. We are here now precisely because Labour cocked up royally the last time they were in.[/p][/quote]What exactly do you think the Council Tax is for then? is it a Political football to be kicked about to win votes? As I understand it, it should be used to provide the services that people require and should be balanced to do that. Not held at an unacceptable level that means cuts in services just to gain a few votes.[/p][/quote]How can the council tax go up next year? Eric Pickles gave/will give massive discounts (extra money) to council's who didn't increase the council tax in year 2012/13 and Southampton didn't increase their council tax, therefore the only way council tax will increase is if Labour hand back the discounts and sign away future discounts, if they do that Central Government will fine them, costing more money. I have no doubt that Pickles gave those discounts (across the country) to councils as an election sweetener for the controlling Tory councils, now the Tories have been battered he could commit political suicide and remove the discounts. In truth, unless this new administration want to get kicked out in 2 years time they won't increase council tax next, however I wouldn't say the same for Pickles[/p][/quote]You've got that one wrong this financial year ( from April) was the second year next April Labour can increase it if that's what they want to do, Take a look at Brighton & what the Green party did. Over the edge please tell me how they're going to restore all pay ? do you honestly believe the unions are going to sit back & wait until after the General Election?[/p][/quote]In 2011 every local authority in the country accepted a 4 year deal to council tax freeze until 2015, unless that has been changed by the coalition (The Tories) then council will remain the same. I am aware of the Green party's decision in B&H and of the others who have since opted out, they choose to do that, as I stated before that would be the only way this administration could do it, for me that is political suicide. I am not a financier however I do know paying extortionate salaries plus pensions to council manager and executives is bleeding the city dry, so maybe Labour will attack the haves whereas the Tories attacked the have nots. The decision has been made, the people have chosen, we have two years to find out, if they fail to deliver they go the of Royston. Over the Edge
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2:00pm Fri 4 May 12

cgfrost says...

I'm really worried but let's see what they do. Hopefully they will show some backbone and not just do what the unions ask for and won't so short sighted as to stop working on the City Master Plan. The Conservatives did some great things since 2008 with very little money. A hard act to follow is still very hard times.
I'm really worried but let's see what they do. Hopefully they will show some backbone and not just do what the unions ask for and won't so short sighted as to stop working on the City Master Plan. The Conservatives did some great things since 2008 with very little money. A hard act to follow is still very hard times. cgfrost
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2:03pm Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election.
.
But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation.
.
Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories.
.
Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others.
.
He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ......
.
His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated.
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The people of this City do not want a Tory Council.
.
Get over it !!
go on just say it

'its Thatchers fault'

brilliant...

why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right?

No? ok then I will.

The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party!

Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.
The Labour Party never done any thing about because they are the same as the Tory Party, What you got into todays Politics is 1 policy with 2 faces.
Professional Politicians run Politics now.
[quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !![/p][/quote]go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.[/p][/quote]The Labour Party never done any thing about because they are the same as the Tory Party, What you got into todays Politics is 1 policy with 2 faces. Professional Politicians run Politics now. southy
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2:04pm Fri 4 May 12

peter sowerby says...

Fantastic result for Southampton labour party and the voters and all who worked so hard for this tory wipe out. The Labour council must now quickly sweep out the stench and political filth the tories left behind and get Southampton city services back working again.
Fantastic result for Southampton labour party and the voters and all who worked so hard for this tory wipe out. The Labour council must now quickly sweep out the stench and political filth the tories left behind and get Southampton city services back working again. peter sowerby
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2:04pm Fri 4 May 12

rich the stitch says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Considering Southy has managed to not only increase TUSC's share of the vote in Redbridge, which is one of NuLabour's strongest wards, but he has also pushed Liberal Democrats into third place, I hope should be sufficient to shut those up who keep on ridiculing him on this website.
People on here ridicule Southy because he comes across as a complete plank who pulls figures out of his backside, can't or won’t back them up and can never say that he's wrong. It’s his “I say so, so it must be true and everyone else is wrong’ attitude which annoys people. Had his voters seen some of the treads on here I’m sure his votes would have been a lot lower.
And come on, pushing the Lib Dems in to third. Not exactly a difficult task. You may as well congratulate him on beating UKIP, BMP and the Monster Raving Loony Party.
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: Considering Southy has managed to not only increase TUSC's share of the vote in Redbridge, which is one of NuLabour's strongest wards, but he has also pushed Liberal Democrats into third place, I hope should be sufficient to shut those up who keep on ridiculing him on this website.[/p][/quote]People on here ridicule Southy because he comes across as a complete plank who pulls figures out of his backside, can't or won’t back them up and can never say that he's wrong. It’s his “I say so, so it must be true and everyone else is wrong’ attitude which annoys people. Had his voters seen some of the treads on here I’m sure his votes would have been a lot lower. And come on, pushing the Lib Dems in to third. Not exactly a difficult task. You may as well congratulate him on beating UKIP, BMP and the Monster Raving Loony Party. rich the stitch
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2:05pm Fri 4 May 12

George4th says...

saintmark1977 wrote:
George4th

With respect you appear fixated by the deficit.

However, despite this fixation (or perhaps because of it) you appear unable to connect with the fact that no progress has been made toward its successful resolution since May 2010.

Your rational is to be to blame the situation on anybody but Mr Cameron, including (but no doubt not limited to) the previous Labour Government and/or the Eurozone.

Again, with respect, Mr Cameron was elected (or in his case not) and it is his job to pick up the problem and try to resolve it.If after two years his answer is increased debt, no growth and higher unemployment then clearly the signal given is that he is simply not up to the job, a fact that yesterdays electorate appear to have had no problem in telling him.
Next you'll be telling me that the leaders of France, Italy, Greece, Ireland, Portugal et al have had two years to get it right and they haven't!! Get real!
>
We are talking UK Plc. Liken it to any major business that has gone bust! And it went bust because of 13 years of total incompetence and an inability to understand that besides spending you have to invest in the future! Our children and our children's children are going to have a lower standard of living because of the catastrophic governance of the Labour Party. Labour Bankrupting the UK twice on the trot will take some beating!
[quote][p][bold]saintmark1977[/bold] wrote: George4th With respect you appear fixated by the deficit. However, despite this fixation (or perhaps because of it) you appear unable to connect with the fact that no progress has been made toward its successful resolution since May 2010. Your rational is to be to blame the situation on anybody but Mr Cameron, including (but no doubt not limited to) the previous Labour Government and/or the Eurozone. Again, with respect, Mr Cameron was elected (or in his case not) and it is his job to pick up the problem and try to resolve it.If after two years his answer is increased debt, no growth and higher unemployment then clearly the signal given is that he is simply not up to the job, a fact that yesterdays electorate appear to have had no problem in telling him.[/p][/quote]Next you'll be telling me that the leaders of France, Italy, Greece, Ireland, Portugal et al have had two years to get it right and they haven't!! Get real! > We are talking UK Plc. Liken it to any major business that has gone bust! And it went bust because of 13 years of total incompetence and an inability to understand that besides spending you have to invest in the future! Our children and our children's children are going to have a lower standard of living because of the catastrophic governance of the Labour Party. Labour Bankrupting the UK twice on the trot will take some beating! George4th
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2:07pm Fri 4 May 12

Lone Ranger. says...

saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election.
.
But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation.
.
Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories.
.
Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others.
.
He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ......
.
His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated.
.
The people of this City do not want a Tory Council.
.
Get over it !!
go on just say it

'its Thatchers fault'

brilliant...

why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right?

No? ok then I will.

The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party!

Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.
Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??.
.
I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked.
.
Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick.
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As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party.
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Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them.
.
So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot
.
[quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !![/p][/quote]go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.[/p][/quote]Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot . Lone Ranger.
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2:09pm Fri 4 May 12

George4th says...

peter sowerby wrote:
Fantastic result for Southampton labour party and the voters and all who worked so hard for this tory wipe out. The Labour council must now quickly sweep out the stench and political filth the tories left behind and get Southampton city services back working again.
"the stench and political filth"
Is this the kind of gutter language that we expect then?
[quote][p][bold]peter sowerby[/bold] wrote: Fantastic result for Southampton labour party and the voters and all who worked so hard for this tory wipe out. The Labour council must now quickly sweep out the stench and political filth the tories left behind and get Southampton city services back working again.[/p][/quote]"the stench and political filth" Is this the kind of gutter language that we expect then? George4th
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2:11pm Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

Ian Woodland exc of the Unite Union as made his biggest blunder todate and that is backing Labour in every single Southampton Council Ward.
Why because when the Torys made cuts, Labour Councillors back them, Now when Labour make cuts Tory Councillors will back them, He should of made sure that the Unions back one ward for the TUSC to win, that way when the cuts to happen he would know at lest one Councillor will be there to fight the cuts.
Ian Woodland exc of the Unite Union as made his biggest blunder todate and that is backing Labour in every single Southampton Council Ward. Why because when the Torys made cuts, Labour Councillors back them, Now when Labour make cuts Tory Councillors will back them, He should of made sure that the Unions back one ward for the TUSC to win, that way when the cuts to happen he would know at lest one Councillor will be there to fight the cuts. southy
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2:21pm Fri 4 May 12

Nod says...

Southampton is full of the ignorant and the apathetic. That id the only reason they can back the people they voted in. The Labour party's ignorance was illustrated in tuesday's Echo. Some mathematical genius thinks £4 mil in redundancy payments (a one off charge) can cover the removal of the pay cuts and any redundancies. Pay is a recurring charge therefore this money has to be found yearly. Their numbers don't add up and Southampton will go down the pan because of it.
Southampton is full of the ignorant and the apathetic. That id the only reason they can back the people they voted in. The Labour party's ignorance was illustrated in tuesday's Echo. Some mathematical genius thinks £4 mil in redundancy payments (a one off charge) can cover the removal of the pay cuts and any redundancies. Pay is a recurring charge therefore this money has to be found yearly. Their numbers don't add up and Southampton will go down the pan because of it. Nod
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2:26pm Fri 4 May 12

modusoper says...

Well, I never knew the people of Southampton were so stupid. Voting for Labour just proves that you either have very short memories about the state of the country they left us in, or you're all complete and utter morons with so little sense you should be locked up in padded cells and have the key thrown away.
Well, I never knew the people of Southampton were so stupid. Voting for Labour just proves that you either have very short memories about the state of the country they left us in, or you're all complete and utter morons with so little sense you should be locked up in padded cells and have the key thrown away. modusoper
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2:30pm Fri 4 May 12

premiersaints says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election.
.
But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation.
.
Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories.
.
Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others.
.
He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ......
.
His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated.
.
The people of this City do not want a Tory Council.
.
Get over it !!
go on just say it

'its Thatchers fault'

brilliant...

why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right?

No? ok then I will.

The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party!

Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.
Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??.
.
I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked.
.
Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick.
.
As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party.
.
Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them.
.
So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot
.
Haven't quite answered the question raised about what Labour did to the UK over 13 years?? Also even if the Tores were uselss and a sleaze dominated the party, as you have put, how does that give Labour the right to destroy the UK??
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !![/p][/quote]go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.[/p][/quote]Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot .[/p][/quote]Haven't quite answered the question raised about what Labour did to the UK over 13 years?? Also even if the Tores were uselss and a sleaze dominated the party, as you have put, how does that give Labour the right to destroy the UK?? premiersaints
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2:31pm Fri 4 May 12

saintjak says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !!
go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.
Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot .
Another good post...

You are right about one thing I am angry - as its me and others like me that will be picking up the cost for years to come. Have you even put your hand in your pocket yet?

Did I result to personal insults? Lost my marbles, Thick, Pompous idiot, Fairy - No.

You talk alot but say nothing. Hence why you vote Labour.

I'll say again the 'Bottomless Pitt Fantasy Money party' will never be trusted with the national public purse again.

Simple as...
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !![/p][/quote]go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.[/p][/quote]Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot .[/p][/quote]Another good post... You are right about one thing I am angry - as its me and others like me that will be picking up the cost for years to come. Have you even put your hand in your pocket yet? Did I result to personal insults? Lost my marbles, Thick, Pompous idiot, Fairy - No. You talk alot but say nothing. Hence why you vote Labour. I'll say again the 'Bottomless Pitt Fantasy Money party' will never be trusted with the national public purse again. Simple as... saintjak
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2:31pm Fri 4 May 12

dave1958 says...

southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
dave1958 wrote:
mr nobody wrote:
Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests
in the community , people what were you thinking .
Mr Nobody, I bet you did not complain when the 18 year old tories took their seats four years ago.
As for living in the ward, the defetated Conservative Councillor DOES NOT even live in Southampton, at least the 3 Millbrook Councillors do, and they are contactable.
Just a point of accuracy for Condor Man Jenks as you call him, was not standing as a candidate last night.
All councillors have to live in the city that's why an extremely good councillor had to stand down as he moved so your comment is wrong
Loose "No" Councillors must live in the City or Work in the City
On this occassion Southy is totally correct, to stand for a local council, you do not have to live within its boundaries, so long as you have a work qualification, ie you place of work is within the boundaries of the local authority that you wish to stand for you can stand for that council.
Hence the Micheal Ball, when he was a councillor in Southampton does not actually live in the boundaries of Southampton City Council. He qualified to stand by virtue of him having a work qualification. Can I suggest that you check up on these things loosehead, and perhaps take an active part in the political process instead of just spouting off from your armchair.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr nobody[/bold] wrote: Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests in the community , people what were you thinking .[/p][/quote]Mr Nobody, I bet you did not complain when the 18 year old tories took their seats four years ago. As for living in the ward, the defetated Conservative Councillor DOES NOT even live in Southampton, at least the 3 Millbrook Councillors do, and they are contactable. Just a point of accuracy for Condor Man Jenks as you call him, was not standing as a candidate last night.[/p][/quote]All councillors have to live in the city that's why an extremely good councillor had to stand down as he moved so your comment is wrong[/p][/quote]Loose "No" Councillors must live in the City or Work in the City[/p][/quote]On this occassion Southy is totally correct, to stand for a local council, you do not have to live within its boundaries, so long as you have a work qualification, ie you place of work is within the boundaries of the local authority that you wish to stand for you can stand for that council. Hence the Micheal Ball, when he was a councillor in Southampton does not actually live in the boundaries of Southampton City Council. He qualified to stand by virtue of him having a work qualification. Can I suggest that you check up on these things loosehead, and perhaps take an active part in the political process instead of just spouting off from your armchair. dave1958
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2:32pm Fri 4 May 12

premiersaints says...

modusoper wrote:
Well, I never knew the people of Southampton were so stupid. Voting for Labour just proves that you either have very short memories about the state of the country they left us in, or you're all complete and utter morons with so little sense you should be locked up in padded cells and have the key thrown away.
Well said
[quote][p][bold]modusoper[/bold] wrote: Well, I never knew the people of Southampton were so stupid. Voting for Labour just proves that you either have very short memories about the state of the country they left us in, or you're all complete and utter morons with so little sense you should be locked up in padded cells and have the key thrown away.[/p][/quote]Well said premiersaints
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2:40pm Fri 4 May 12

saintjak says...

premiersaints wrote:
modusoper wrote: Well, I never knew the people of Southampton were so stupid. Voting for Labour just proves that you either have very short memories about the state of the country they left us in, or you're all complete and utter morons with so little sense you should be locked up in padded cells and have the key thrown away.
Well said
As i said in an earlier post.

It's a sad day
[quote][p][bold]premiersaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]modusoper[/bold] wrote: Well, I never knew the people of Southampton were so stupid. Voting for Labour just proves that you either have very short memories about the state of the country they left us in, or you're all complete and utter morons with so little sense you should be locked up in padded cells and have the key thrown away.[/p][/quote]Well said[/p][/quote]As i said in an earlier post. It's a sad day saintjak
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2:45pm Fri 4 May 12

cgfrost says...

modusoper - yup
modusoper - yup cgfrost
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2:53pm Fri 4 May 12

The Salv says...

saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !!
go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.
Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot .
Another good post...

You are right about one thing I am angry - as its me and others like me that will be picking up the cost for years to come. Have you even put your hand in your pocket yet?

Did I result to personal insults? Lost my marbles, Thick, Pompous idiot, Fairy - No.

You talk alot but say nothing. Hence why you vote Labour.

I'll say again the 'Bottomless Pitt Fantasy Money party' will never be trusted with the national public purse again.

Simple as...
You have pretty much just summed up the average Labour supporter there. Spot on.
[quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !![/p][/quote]go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.[/p][/quote]Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot .[/p][/quote]Another good post... You are right about one thing I am angry - as its me and others like me that will be picking up the cost for years to come. Have you even put your hand in your pocket yet? Did I result to personal insults? Lost my marbles, Thick, Pompous idiot, Fairy - No. You talk alot but say nothing. Hence why you vote Labour. I'll say again the 'Bottomless Pitt Fantasy Money party' will never be trusted with the national public purse again. Simple as...[/p][/quote]You have pretty much just summed up the average Labour supporter there. Spot on. The Salv
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3:07pm Fri 4 May 12

Lone Ranger. says...

saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !!
go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.
Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot .
Another good post...

You are right about one thing I am angry - as its me and others like me that will be picking up the cost for years to come. Have you even put your hand in your pocket yet?

Did I result to personal insults? Lost my marbles, Thick, Pompous idiot, Fairy - No.

You talk alot but say nothing. Hence why you vote Labour.

I'll say again the 'Bottomless Pitt Fantasy Money party' will never be trusted with the national public purse again.

Simple as...
Pity that you didnt read the answers to the questions that you set and decided to answer for me.
.
And please dont ever try and mention the "trust" chestnut with me. Ive experienced more dodgy Tories over the years than i can remember.
.
And already after not two years its SLEAZE all the way.
[quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !![/p][/quote]go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.[/p][/quote]Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot .[/p][/quote]Another good post... You are right about one thing I am angry - as its me and others like me that will be picking up the cost for years to come. Have you even put your hand in your pocket yet? Did I result to personal insults? Lost my marbles, Thick, Pompous idiot, Fairy - No. You talk alot but say nothing. Hence why you vote Labour. I'll say again the 'Bottomless Pitt Fantasy Money party' will never be trusted with the national public purse again. Simple as...[/p][/quote]Pity that you didnt read the answers to the questions that you set and decided to answer for me. . And please dont ever try and mention the "trust" chestnut with me. Ive experienced more dodgy Tories over the years than i can remember. . And already after not two years its SLEAZE all the way. Lone Ranger.
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3:08pm Fri 4 May 12

saintmark1977 says...

George4th

My experience tells me that when one senses a point of discussion is slipping away from one then it is usual to resort to "next you will be telling me etc etc ". Hence your latest comments. As I am sure you are aware the expression is "putting words in my mouth".

George4th, I am not attempting to suggest to you anything other than as previously posted.

However to assist you I will repeat once more:-

Two years in and increased debt,no growth and higher unemployment.

On the basis of the above I do not think the electorate called it wrong yesterday but I would not be in the least surprised to find that you think they did.
George4th My experience tells me that when one senses a point of discussion is slipping away from one then it is usual to resort to "next you will be telling me etc etc ". Hence your latest comments. As I am sure you are aware the expression is "putting words in my mouth". George4th, I am not attempting to suggest to you anything other than as previously posted. However to assist you I will repeat once more:- Two years in and increased debt,no growth and higher unemployment. On the basis of the above I do not think the electorate called it wrong yesterday but I would not be in the least surprised to find that you think they did. saintmark1977
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3:18pm Fri 4 May 12

saintjak says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !!
go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.
Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot .
Another good post... You are right about one thing I am angry - as its me and others like me that will be picking up the cost for years to come. Have you even put your hand in your pocket yet? Did I result to personal insults? Lost my marbles, Thick, Pompous idiot, Fairy - No. You talk alot but say nothing. Hence why you vote Labour. I'll say again the 'Bottomless Pitt Fantasy Money party' will never be trusted with the national public purse again. Simple as...
Pity that you didnt read the answers to the questions that you set and decided to answer for me. . And please dont ever try and mention the "trust" chestnut with me. Ive experienced more dodgy Tories over the years than i can remember. . And already after not two years its SLEAZE all the way.
You have no answers thats part of your charm obviously.

And you sound bitter so are not speaking from strength.

Also you consistantly talk sleeze as if Labour are immune from it? Tony Blair anyone...

Labour -'vote for us, we'll line your pockets with money we don't have, bring the country to its knees and then go live in our big houses and never be seen again'

thanks for that.

Don't worry though, middle England will pick up the pieces, we always do.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !![/p][/quote]go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.[/p][/quote]Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot .[/p][/quote]Another good post... You are right about one thing I am angry - as its me and others like me that will be picking up the cost for years to come. Have you even put your hand in your pocket yet? Did I result to personal insults? Lost my marbles, Thick, Pompous idiot, Fairy - No. You talk alot but say nothing. Hence why you vote Labour. I'll say again the 'Bottomless Pitt Fantasy Money party' will never be trusted with the national public purse again. Simple as...[/p][/quote]Pity that you didnt read the answers to the questions that you set and decided to answer for me. . And please dont ever try and mention the "trust" chestnut with me. Ive experienced more dodgy Tories over the years than i can remember. . And already after not two years its SLEAZE all the way.[/p][/quote]You have no answers thats part of your charm obviously. And you sound bitter so are not speaking from strength. Also you consistantly talk sleeze as if Labour are immune from it? Tony Blair anyone... Labour -'vote for us, we'll line your pockets with money we don't have, bring the country to its knees and then go live in our big houses and never be seen again' thanks for that. Don't worry though, middle England will pick up the pieces, we always do. saintjak
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3:27pm Fri 4 May 12

saintjak says...

saintmark1977 wrote:
George4th My experience tells me that when one senses a point of discussion is slipping away from one then it is usual to resort to "next you will be telling me etc etc ". Hence your latest comments. As I am sure you are aware the expression is "putting words in my mouth". George4th, I am not attempting to suggest to you anything other than as previously posted. However to assist you I will repeat once more:- Two years in and increased debt,no growth and higher unemployment. On the basis of the above I do not think the electorate called it wrong yesterday but I would not be in the least surprised to find that you think they did.
So just to be clear 13 years of a complete (Ed) balls up and you expect 2 years to sort it all out?

I will repeat once more:- 2 years to sort this mess out

Unbelievable.

Vote 'Bottomless pitt of Fantasy money party'

they will know what to do
[quote][p][bold]saintmark1977[/bold] wrote: George4th My experience tells me that when one senses a point of discussion is slipping away from one then it is usual to resort to "next you will be telling me etc etc ". Hence your latest comments. As I am sure you are aware the expression is "putting words in my mouth". George4th, I am not attempting to suggest to you anything other than as previously posted. However to assist you I will repeat once more:- Two years in and increased debt,no growth and higher unemployment. On the basis of the above I do not think the electorate called it wrong yesterday but I would not be in the least surprised to find that you think they did.[/p][/quote]So just to be clear 13 years of a complete (Ed) balls up and you expect 2 years to sort it all out? I will repeat once more:- 2 years to sort this mess out Unbelievable. Vote 'Bottomless pitt of Fantasy money party' they will know what to do saintjak
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3:52pm Fri 4 May 12

George4th says...

saintmark1977 wrote:
George4th

My experience tells me that when one senses a point of discussion is slipping away from one then it is usual to resort to "next you will be telling me etc etc ". Hence your latest comments. As I am sure you are aware the expression is "putting words in my mouth".

George4th, I am not attempting to suggest to you anything other than as previously posted.

However to assist you I will repeat once more:-

Two years in and increased debt,no growth and higher unemployment.

On the basis of the above I do not think the electorate called it wrong yesterday but I would not be in the least surprised to find that you think they did.
"Two years in and increased debt,no growth and higher unemployment. "

OK, you can choose to ignore my original reasons which were there for you to clearly see and understand!
>
As opposed to 13 years of no real growth, massively increased debt and higher unemployment (especially among the 16 - 24 year olds during Labour reign! and the poor getting poorer!) under the Labour government. Given that Labour were handed a debt free UK and a growing, rising booming economy as opposed to the £1000 Billion debt etc etc etc disaster that the Coalition inherited!!
>
And for the first time in 30 years the City of Southampton was on the right track with a strategy, plans, growth, investment, amazing improvements and with a vision for the future that would deliver fantastic benefits to the people of Southampton.
And what happens? There are some people in Southampton who can't see beyond their noses and appreciate what they have been given and what they would have been given. They have scuttled the best council we have had in decades - how stupid is that?
[quote][p][bold]saintmark1977[/bold] wrote: George4th My experience tells me that when one senses a point of discussion is slipping away from one then it is usual to resort to "next you will be telling me etc etc ". Hence your latest comments. As I am sure you are aware the expression is "putting words in my mouth". George4th, I am not attempting to suggest to you anything other than as previously posted. However to assist you I will repeat once more:- Two years in and increased debt,no growth and higher unemployment. On the basis of the above I do not think the electorate called it wrong yesterday but I would not be in the least surprised to find that you think they did.[/p][/quote]"Two years in and increased debt,no growth and higher unemployment. " OK, you can choose to ignore my original reasons which were there for you to clearly see and understand! > As opposed to 13 years of no real growth, massively increased debt and higher unemployment (especially among the 16 - 24 year olds during Labour reign! and the poor getting poorer!) under the Labour government. Given that Labour were handed a debt free UK and a growing, rising booming economy as opposed to the £1000 Billion debt etc etc etc disaster that the Coalition inherited!! > And for the first time in 30 years the City of Southampton was on the right track with a strategy, plans, growth, investment, amazing improvements and with a vision for the future that would deliver fantastic benefits to the people of Southampton. And what happens? There are some people in Southampton who can't see beyond their noses and appreciate what they have been given and what they would have been given. They have scuttled the best council we have had in decades - how stupid is that? George4th
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4:01pm Fri 4 May 12

saintmark1977 says...

saintjak

Please,where in any of my posts have I mentioned "two years to sort this mess out"? This remark is yours and yours alone.

I have simply pointed out that there is increased debt, no growth and higher unemployment since May 2010.

Surely if you do not factually dispute my comments reference debt,growth,and unemployment then you must be able to see that Mr Cameron's solution is not starting to work nor showing any signs of doing so in the future? Regretfully from Mr Cameron's point of view (despite all of the coalition government spin) the electorate have also picked up on this fact and voted accordingly.

I believe the expression is "democracy at work".
saintjak Please,where in any of my posts have I mentioned "two years to sort this mess out"? This remark is yours and yours alone. I have simply pointed out that there is increased debt, no growth and higher unemployment since May 2010. Surely if you do not factually dispute my comments reference debt,growth,and unemployment then you must be able to see that Mr Cameron's solution is not starting to work nor showing any signs of doing so in the future? Regretfully from Mr Cameron's point of view (despite all of the coalition government spin) the electorate have also picked up on this fact and voted accordingly. I believe the expression is "democracy at work". saintmark1977
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4:06pm Fri 4 May 12

loosehead says...

dave1958 wrote:
southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
dave1958 wrote:
mr nobody wrote:
Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests
in the community , people what were you thinking .
Mr Nobody, I bet you did not complain when the 18 year old tories took their seats four years ago.
As for living in the ward, the defetated Conservative Councillor DOES NOT even live in Southampton, at least the 3 Millbrook Councillors do, and they are contactable.
Just a point of accuracy for Condor Man Jenks as you call him, was not standing as a candidate last night.
All councillors have to live in the city that's why an extremely good councillor had to stand down as he moved so your comment is wrong
Loose "No" Councillors must live in the City or Work in the City
On this occassion Southy is totally correct, to stand for a local council, you do not have to live within its boundaries, so long as you have a work qualification, ie you place of work is within the boundaries of the local authority that you wish to stand for you can stand for that council.
Hence the Micheal Ball, when he was a councillor in Southampton does not actually live in the boundaries of Southampton City Council. He qualified to stand by virtue of him having a work qualification. Can I suggest that you check up on these things loosehead, and perhaps take an active part in the political process instead of just spouting off from your armchair.
I did but didn't get selected as I didn't talk enough or the party needed people with financial backgrounds so I wasn't selected.
There were other things that were said to me.
I came back from Thailand with ideas to cut the expenditure the council has.
one was to approach companies & advertise on all council vehicles & buildings, the other was for companies to pay the wages of street cleaners though they would still be council employees but a plaque/sign would be put up stating the companies that paid to keep the area clean & pay towards it's maintenance.
I was told they pay business rates but this money would have come from their advertising budget.
All income is good income if legal & would be a way to save money with out making cuts or putting up tax but on these posts I was ridiculed but at least I was trying to be constructive
[quote][p][bold]dave1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr nobody[/bold] wrote: Somebody please tell what on earth a 19yr old knows about what is good for us in millbrook this is an insult to the people of millbrook we deserve better our community is going to become one big mess no money spent here at all, its not going to be nice living here, MY GOD PEOPLE OF MILLBROOK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE the 3 councillors from Labour don't even live on the ward so they don't care what state it becomes , we now have 2 idiots and a baby sister looking after our best interests in the community , people what were you thinking .[/p][/quote]Mr Nobody, I bet you did not complain when the 18 year old tories took their seats four years ago. As for living in the ward, the defetated Conservative Councillor DOES NOT even live in Southampton, at least the 3 Millbrook Councillors do, and they are contactable. Just a point of accuracy for Condor Man Jenks as you call him, was not standing as a candidate last night.[/p][/quote]All councillors have to live in the city that's why an extremely good councillor had to stand down as he moved so your comment is wrong[/p][/quote]Loose "No" Councillors must live in the City or Work in the City[/p][/quote]On this occassion Southy is totally correct, to stand for a local council, you do not have to live within its boundaries, so long as you have a work qualification, ie you place of work is within the boundaries of the local authority that you wish to stand for you can stand for that council. Hence the Micheal Ball, when he was a councillor in Southampton does not actually live in the boundaries of Southampton City Council. He qualified to stand by virtue of him having a work qualification. Can I suggest that you check up on these things loosehead, and perhaps take an active part in the political process instead of just spouting off from your armchair.[/p][/quote]I did but didn't get selected as I didn't talk enough or the party needed people with financial backgrounds so I wasn't selected. There were other things that were said to me. I came back from Thailand with ideas to cut the expenditure the council has. one was to approach companies & advertise on all council vehicles & buildings, the other was for companies to pay the wages of street cleaners though they would still be council employees but a plaque/sign would be put up stating the companies that paid to keep the area clean & pay towards it's maintenance. I was told they pay business rates but this money would have come from their advertising budget. All income is good income if legal & would be a way to save money with out making cuts or putting up tax but on these posts I was ridiculed but at least I was trying to be constructive loosehead
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4:13pm Fri 4 May 12

loosehead says...

saintmark1977 wrote:
saintjak

Please,where in any of my posts have I mentioned "two years to sort this mess out"? This remark is yours and yours alone.

I have simply pointed out that there is increased debt, no growth and higher unemployment since May 2010.

Surely if you do not factually dispute my comments reference debt,growth,and unemployment then you must be able to see that Mr Cameron's solution is not starting to work nor showing any signs of doing so in the future? Regretfully from Mr Cameron's point of view (despite all of the coalition government spin) the electorate have also picked up on this fact and voted accordingly.

I believe the expression is "democracy at work".
What about the 400 jobs Lidl were going to create but Labour opposed will that development be stopped?
[quote][p][bold]saintmark1977[/bold] wrote: saintjak Please,where in any of my posts have I mentioned "two years to sort this mess out"? This remark is yours and yours alone. I have simply pointed out that there is increased debt, no growth and higher unemployment since May 2010. Surely if you do not factually dispute my comments reference debt,growth,and unemployment then you must be able to see that Mr Cameron's solution is not starting to work nor showing any signs of doing so in the future? Regretfully from Mr Cameron's point of view (despite all of the coalition government spin) the electorate have also picked up on this fact and voted accordingly. I believe the expression is "democracy at work".[/p][/quote]What about the 400 jobs Lidl were going to create but Labour opposed will that development be stopped? loosehead
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4:30pm Fri 4 May 12

saintmark1977 says...

George4th

Whilst I respect your obviously strongly held views I think your remark "Some people in Southampton who can't see beyond their noses etc etc" may be one that upon a period of calm reflection you may wish to withdraw?

I assume you are refering to the electorate and if so surely you should at least be magnanimous in accepting their decision even if it is one with which you do not agree in person?

After all what happened yesterday was simply "democracy at work"
George4th Whilst I respect your obviously strongly held views I think your remark "Some people in Southampton who can't see beyond their noses etc etc" may be one that upon a period of calm reflection you may wish to withdraw? I assume you are refering to the electorate and if so surely you should at least be magnanimous in accepting their decision even if it is one with which you do not agree in person? After all what happened yesterday was simply "democracy at work" saintmark1977
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4:37pm Fri 4 May 12

Redondo Saint says...

I hope the Echo are happy now.

Good night Southampton.
I hope the Echo are happy now. Good night Southampton. Redondo Saint
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4:44pm Fri 4 May 12

saintjak says...

saintmark1977 wrote:
saintjak Please,where in any of my posts have I mentioned "two years to sort this mess out"? This remark is yours and yours alone. I have simply pointed out that there is increased debt, no growth and higher unemployment since May 2010. Surely if you do not factually dispute my comments reference debt,growth,and unemployment then you must be able to see that Mr Cameron's solution is not starting to work nor showing any signs of doing so in the future? Regretfully from Mr Cameron's point of view (despite all of the coalition government spin) the electorate have also picked up on this fact and voted accordingly. I believe the expression is "democracy at work".
You put the time frame in.

What did you expect to happen in two years?

I fail to see how anyone can think in two years there was going to be a magical turn around?

other countries in Europe are facing bankruptcy and now being propped up by Germany. We are holding our own.

I assume there is an easy fix then? At no point have I heard from Goverment everything will be looking rosey in two years.

I have heard the primeminister say judge us after 5 years.

The debt we have is unpresidented and I do not see how anyone can think the people that put us in this position now have all the answers to get us out?? They do not.

After the hammering the Tories have had Boris Johnson will win London, how is that possible?

Because when push comes to shove there is only one party that can run the country. 1979 and 2010 have proved it...

Labour have won a low turnout battle today that is all. The country is at an all time low and angry, Goverment was always going to get kicked

But when it comes to a national election or a big vote like London Mayor the Tories win, why?

Because Labour do not have the capacity to run the nations purse.
[quote][p][bold]saintmark1977[/bold] wrote: saintjak Please,where in any of my posts have I mentioned "two years to sort this mess out"? This remark is yours and yours alone. I have simply pointed out that there is increased debt, no growth and higher unemployment since May 2010. Surely if you do not factually dispute my comments reference debt,growth,and unemployment then you must be able to see that Mr Cameron's solution is not starting to work nor showing any signs of doing so in the future? Regretfully from Mr Cameron's point of view (despite all of the coalition government spin) the electorate have also picked up on this fact and voted accordingly. I believe the expression is "democracy at work".[/p][/quote]You put the time frame in. What did you expect to happen in two years? I fail to see how anyone can think in two years there was going to be a magical turn around? other countries in Europe are facing bankruptcy and now being propped up by Germany. We are holding our own. I assume there is an easy fix then? At no point have I heard from Goverment everything will be looking rosey in two years. I have heard the primeminister say judge us after 5 years. The debt we have is unpresidented and I do not see how anyone can think the people that put us in this position now have all the answers to get us out?? They do not. After the hammering the Tories have had Boris Johnson will win London, how is that possible? Because when push comes to shove there is only one party that can run the country. 1979 and 2010 have proved it... Labour have won a low turnout battle today that is all. The country is at an all time low and angry, Goverment was always going to get kicked But when it comes to a national election or a big vote like London Mayor the Tories win, why? Because Labour do not have the capacity to run the nations purse. saintjak
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4:59pm Fri 4 May 12

Lone Ranger. says...

saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !!
go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.
Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot .
Another good post... You are right about one thing I am angry - as its me and others like me that will be picking up the cost for years to come. Have you even put your hand in your pocket yet? Did I result to personal insults? Lost my marbles, Thick, Pompous idiot, Fairy - No. You talk alot but say nothing. Hence why you vote Labour. I'll say again the 'Bottomless Pitt Fantasy Money party' will never be trusted with the national public purse again. Simple as...
Pity that you didnt read the answers to the questions that you set and decided to answer for me. . And please dont ever try and mention the "trust" chestnut with me. Ive experienced more dodgy Tories over the years than i can remember. . And already after not two years its SLEAZE all the way.
You have no answers thats part of your charm obviously.

And you sound bitter so are not speaking from strength.

Also you consistantly talk sleeze as if Labour are immune from it? Tony Blair anyone...

Labour -'vote for us, we'll line your pockets with money we don't have, bring the country to its knees and then go live in our big houses and never be seen again'

thanks for that.

Don't worry though, middle England will pick up the pieces, we always do.
People like you are so sa.
.
Even when something is decided democraticaly you still cannot accept the outcome.
.
You still cannot accept that the people ( the residents of Southampton ) have made a decision ...... They dont want Tory control .... They have had it for some four years or so and they dont like it.
.
It is their right as subjects of a democratic Country to put their cross where they want to.
.
Now if you and a few others cant live with that then go and live somewhere else ....... in particular where democracy is the norm.
.
Good luck .... i hope that you find peace in your head ..... If not there are a few beds at Tatchbury
[quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !![/p][/quote]go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.[/p][/quote]Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot .[/p][/quote]Another good post... You are right about one thing I am angry - as its me and others like me that will be picking up the cost for years to come. Have you even put your hand in your pocket yet? Did I result to personal insults? Lost my marbles, Thick, Pompous idiot, Fairy - No. You talk alot but say nothing. Hence why you vote Labour. I'll say again the 'Bottomless Pitt Fantasy Money party' will never be trusted with the national public purse again. Simple as...[/p][/quote]Pity that you didnt read the answers to the questions that you set and decided to answer for me. . And please dont ever try and mention the "trust" chestnut with me. Ive experienced more dodgy Tories over the years than i can remember. . And already after not two years its SLEAZE all the way.[/p][/quote]You have no answers thats part of your charm obviously. And you sound bitter so are not speaking from strength. Also you consistantly talk sleeze as if Labour are immune from it? Tony Blair anyone... Labour -'vote for us, we'll line your pockets with money we don't have, bring the country to its knees and then go live in our big houses and never be seen again' thanks for that. Don't worry though, middle England will pick up the pieces, we always do.[/p][/quote]People like you are so sa. . Even when something is decided democraticaly you still cannot accept the outcome. . You still cannot accept that the people ( the residents of Southampton ) have made a decision ...... They dont want Tory control .... They have had it for some four years or so and they dont like it. . It is their right as subjects of a democratic Country to put their cross where they want to. . Now if you and a few others cant live with that then go and live somewhere else ....... in particular where democracy is the norm. . Good luck .... i hope that you find peace in your head ..... If not there are a few beds at Tatchbury Lone Ranger.
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5:17pm Fri 4 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Over the Edge wrote:
aldermoorboy, loosehead, Condorman, George4th, OSPREYSAINT, your boy called Roy took one hell a beating
Oy! He ain't my boy and never will be, show a bit of respect please.
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: aldermoorboy, loosehead, Condorman, George4th, OSPREYSAINT, your boy called Roy took one hell a beating[/p][/quote]Oy! He ain't my boy and never will be, show a bit of respect please. OSPREYSAINT
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5:17pm Fri 4 May 12

saintjak says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !!
go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.
Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot .
Another good post... You are right about one thing I am angry - as its me and others like me that will be picking up the cost for years to come. Have you even put your hand in your pocket yet? Did I result to personal insults? Lost my marbles, Thick, Pompous idiot, Fairy - No. You talk alot but say nothing. Hence why you vote Labour. I'll say again the 'Bottomless Pitt Fantasy Money party' will never be trusted with the national public purse again. Simple as...
Pity that you didnt read the answers to the questions that you set and decided to answer for me. . And please dont ever try and mention the "trust" chestnut with me. Ive experienced more dodgy Tories over the years than i can remember. . And already after not two years its SLEAZE all the way.
You have no answers thats part of your charm obviously. And you sound bitter so are not speaking from strength. Also you consistantly talk sleeze as if Labour are immune from it? Tony Blair anyone... Labour -'vote for us, we'll line your pockets with money we don't have, bring the country to its knees and then go live in our big houses and never be seen again' thanks for that. Don't worry though, middle England will pick up the pieces, we always do.
People like you are so sa. . Even when something is decided democraticaly you still cannot accept the outcome. . You still cannot accept that the people ( the residents of Southampton ) have made a decision ...... They dont want Tory control .... They have had it for some four years or so and they dont like it. . It is their right as subjects of a democratic Country to put their cross where they want to. . Now if you and a few others cant live with that then go and live somewhere else ....... in particular where democracy is the norm. . Good luck .... i hope that you find peace in your head ..... If not there are a few beds at Tatchbury
Abuse again, that is disapointing but to be expected.

It is a very sad day for Southampton

Fortunately the Goverment won't be changing anythime soon.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !![/p][/quote]go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.[/p][/quote]Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot .[/p][/quote]Another good post... You are right about one thing I am angry - as its me and others like me that will be picking up the cost for years to come. Have you even put your hand in your pocket yet? Did I result to personal insults? Lost my marbles, Thick, Pompous idiot, Fairy - No. You talk alot but say nothing. Hence why you vote Labour. I'll say again the 'Bottomless Pitt Fantasy Money party' will never be trusted with the national public purse again. Simple as...[/p][/quote]Pity that you didnt read the answers to the questions that you set and decided to answer for me. . And please dont ever try and mention the "trust" chestnut with me. Ive experienced more dodgy Tories over the years than i can remember. . And already after not two years its SLEAZE all the way.[/p][/quote]You have no answers thats part of your charm obviously. And you sound bitter so are not speaking from strength. Also you consistantly talk sleeze as if Labour are immune from it? Tony Blair anyone... Labour -'vote for us, we'll line your pockets with money we don't have, bring the country to its knees and then go live in our big houses and never be seen again' thanks for that. Don't worry though, middle England will pick up the pieces, we always do.[/p][/quote]People like you are so sa. . Even when something is decided democraticaly you still cannot accept the outcome. . You still cannot accept that the people ( the residents of Southampton ) have made a decision ...... They dont want Tory control .... They have had it for some four years or so and they dont like it. . It is their right as subjects of a democratic Country to put their cross where they want to. . Now if you and a few others cant live with that then go and live somewhere else ....... in particular where democracy is the norm. . Good luck .... i hope that you find peace in your head ..... If not there are a few beds at Tatchbury[/p][/quote]Abuse again, that is disapointing but to be expected. It is a very sad day for Southampton Fortunately the Goverment won't be changing anythime soon. saintjak
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5:26pm Fri 4 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

modusoper wrote:
Well, I never knew the people of Southampton were so stupid. Voting for Labour just proves that you either have very short memories about the state of the country they left us in, or you're all complete and utter morons with so little sense you should be locked up in padded cells and have the key thrown away.
You "never knew Southampton people were so stupid", that is insulting to say the least. I suggest that they are not stupid but have come to their senses and decided to make changes in the only democratic way that is available to them. If the Tories want the votes they have to change their ways, if they can't change then don't expect the support of the people. It is simple not stupid.
[quote][p][bold]modusoper[/bold] wrote: Well, I never knew the people of Southampton were so stupid. Voting for Labour just proves that you either have very short memories about the state of the country they left us in, or you're all complete and utter morons with so little sense you should be locked up in padded cells and have the key thrown away.[/p][/quote]You "never knew Southampton people were so stupid", that is insulting to say the least. I suggest that they are not stupid but have come to their senses and decided to make changes in the only democratic way that is available to them. If the Tories want the votes they have to change their ways, if they can't change then don't expect the support of the people. It is simple not stupid. OSPREYSAINT
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5:27pm Fri 4 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !!
go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.
Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot .
Another good post... You are right about one thing I am angry - as its me and others like me that will be picking up the cost for years to come. Have you even put your hand in your pocket yet? Did I result to personal insults? Lost my marbles, Thick, Pompous idiot, Fairy - No. You talk alot but say nothing. Hence why you vote Labour. I'll say again the 'Bottomless Pitt Fantasy Money party' will never be trusted with the national public purse again. Simple as...
Pity that you didnt read the answers to the questions that you set and decided to answer for me. . And please dont ever try and mention the "trust" chestnut with me. Ive experienced more dodgy Tories over the years than i can remember. . And already after not two years its SLEAZE all the way.
You have no answers thats part of your charm obviously. And you sound bitter so are not speaking from strength. Also you consistantly talk sleeze as if Labour are immune from it? Tony Blair anyone... Labour -'vote for us, we'll line your pockets with money we don't have, bring the country to its knees and then go live in our big houses and never be seen again' thanks for that. Don't worry though, middle England will pick up the pieces, we always do.
People like you are so sa. . Even when something is decided democraticaly you still cannot accept the outcome. . You still cannot accept that the people ( the residents of Southampton ) have made a decision ...... They dont want Tory control .... They have had it for some four years or so and they dont like it. . It is their right as subjects of a democratic Country to put their cross where they want to. . Now if you and a few others cant live with that then go and live somewhere else ....... in particular where democracy is the norm. . Good luck .... i hope that you find peace in your head ..... If not there are a few beds at Tatchbury
Abuse again, that is disapointing but to be expected.

It is a very sad day for Southampton

Fortunately the Goverment won't be changing anythime soon.
Don't be so sure, the cracks are showing.
[quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !![/p][/quote]go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.[/p][/quote]Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot .[/p][/quote]Another good post... You are right about one thing I am angry - as its me and others like me that will be picking up the cost for years to come. Have you even put your hand in your pocket yet? Did I result to personal insults? Lost my marbles, Thick, Pompous idiot, Fairy - No. You talk alot but say nothing. Hence why you vote Labour. I'll say again the 'Bottomless Pitt Fantasy Money party' will never be trusted with the national public purse again. Simple as...[/p][/quote]Pity that you didnt read the answers to the questions that you set and decided to answer for me. . And please dont ever try and mention the "trust" chestnut with me. Ive experienced more dodgy Tories over the years than i can remember. . And already after not two years its SLEAZE all the way.[/p][/quote]You have no answers thats part of your charm obviously. And you sound bitter so are not speaking from strength. Also you consistantly talk sleeze as if Labour are immune from it? Tony Blair anyone... Labour -'vote for us, we'll line your pockets with money we don't have, bring the country to its knees and then go live in our big houses and never be seen again' thanks for that. Don't worry though, middle England will pick up the pieces, we always do.[/p][/quote]People like you are so sa. . Even when something is decided democraticaly you still cannot accept the outcome. . You still cannot accept that the people ( the residents of Southampton ) have made a decision ...... They dont want Tory control .... They have had it for some four years or so and they dont like it. . It is their right as subjects of a democratic Country to put their cross where they want to. . Now if you and a few others cant live with that then go and live somewhere else ....... in particular where democracy is the norm. . Good luck .... i hope that you find peace in your head ..... If not there are a few beds at Tatchbury[/p][/quote]Abuse again, that is disapointing but to be expected. It is a very sad day for Southampton Fortunately the Goverment won't be changing anythime soon.[/p][/quote]Don't be so sure, the cracks are showing. OSPREYSAINT
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5:28pm Fri 4 May 12

Lone Ranger. says...

saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !!
go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.
Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot .
Another good post... You are right about one thing I am angry - as its me and others like me that will be picking up the cost for years to come. Have you even put your hand in your pocket yet? Did I result to personal insults? Lost my marbles, Thick, Pompous idiot, Fairy - No. You talk alot but say nothing. Hence why you vote Labour. I'll say again the 'Bottomless Pitt Fantasy Money party' will never be trusted with the national public purse again. Simple as...
Pity that you didnt read the answers to the questions that you set and decided to answer for me. . And please dont ever try and mention the "trust" chestnut with me. Ive experienced more dodgy Tories over the years than i can remember. . And already after not two years its SLEAZE all the way.
You have no answers thats part of your charm obviously. And you sound bitter so are not speaking from strength. Also you consistantly talk sleeze as if Labour are immune from it? Tony Blair anyone... Labour -'vote for us, we'll line your pockets with money we don't have, bring the country to its knees and then go live in our big houses and never be seen again' thanks for that. Don't worry though, middle England will pick up the pieces, we always do.
People like you are so sa. . Even when something is decided democraticaly you still cannot accept the outcome. . You still cannot accept that the people ( the residents of Southampton ) have made a decision ...... They dont want Tory control .... They have had it for some four years or so and they dont like it. . It is their right as subjects of a democratic Country to put their cross where they want to. . Now if you and a few others cant live with that then go and live somewhere else ....... in particular where democracy is the norm. . Good luck .... i hope that you find peace in your head ..... If not there are a few beds at Tatchbury
Abuse again, that is disapointing but to be expected.

It is a very sad day for Southampton

Fortunately the Goverment won't be changing anythime soon.
No its not a sad day for Southampton ......... Its sad that YOU cannot take it like like a grown up.
.
Get some backbone (no insult just advice) because there is a lot more to come in the next three years.
.
Three years and counting .... Unless the Lib Dems finally call it a day .... Then back to the country and the boot for slimey Dave
[quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !![/p][/quote]go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.[/p][/quote]Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot .[/p][/quote]Another good post... You are right about one thing I am angry - as its me and others like me that will be picking up the cost for years to come. Have you even put your hand in your pocket yet? Did I result to personal insults? Lost my marbles, Thick, Pompous idiot, Fairy - No. You talk alot but say nothing. Hence why you vote Labour. I'll say again the 'Bottomless Pitt Fantasy Money party' will never be trusted with the national public purse again. Simple as...[/p][/quote]Pity that you didnt read the answers to the questions that you set and decided to answer for me. . And please dont ever try and mention the "trust" chestnut with me. Ive experienced more dodgy Tories over the years than i can remember. . And already after not two years its SLEAZE all the way.[/p][/quote]You have no answers thats part of your charm obviously. And you sound bitter so are not speaking from strength. Also you consistantly talk sleeze as if Labour are immune from it? Tony Blair anyone... Labour -'vote for us, we'll line your pockets with money we don't have, bring the country to its knees and then go live in our big houses and never be seen again' thanks for that. Don't worry though, middle England will pick up the pieces, we always do.[/p][/quote]People like you are so sa. . Even when something is decided democraticaly you still cannot accept the outcome. . You still cannot accept that the people ( the residents of Southampton ) have made a decision ...... They dont want Tory control .... They have had it for some four years or so and they dont like it. . It is their right as subjects of a democratic Country to put their cross where they want to. . Now if you and a few others cant live with that then go and live somewhere else ....... in particular where democracy is the norm. . Good luck .... i hope that you find peace in your head ..... If not there are a few beds at Tatchbury[/p][/quote]Abuse again, that is disapointing but to be expected. It is a very sad day for Southampton Fortunately the Goverment won't be changing anythime soon.[/p][/quote]No its not a sad day for Southampton ......... Its sad that YOU cannot take it like like a grown up. . Get some backbone (no insult just advice) because there is a lot more to come in the next three years. . Three years and counting .... Unless the Lib Dems finally call it a day .... Then back to the country and the boot for slimey Dave Lone Ranger.
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5:31pm Fri 4 May 12

saintmark1977 says...

saintjak

Some interesting thoughts,

1. I did not put any time frame in other than reference to the period since 2010 when Mr Cameron assumed responsibility and became Prime Minister. What other real time period is there to make a judgement of him on?

2.What would it be reasonable to expect to happen in his two years in charge? Perhaps less debt,any sort of economic growth and less unemployment may have helped and certainly not a double dip recession?

3.If we are holding our own then why did the electorate not vote for more of the same yesterday?

4. I continually hear the Government spinning that all is rosey now never mind in five years time.

5.Do not place to much faith in London. If Boris wins he will remain as Mayor but I expect that the Tories will still lose seats in the capital.Also, did not most other cities reject the chance of future mayoral elections yesterday?

6. The Tories have not won an overall majority in a General Election since John Major in the early nineties and on past and present form this looks unlikely to change in 2015.
saintjak Some interesting thoughts, 1. I did not put any time frame in other than reference to the period since 2010 when Mr Cameron assumed responsibility and became Prime Minister. What other real time period is there to make a judgement of him on? 2.What would it be reasonable to expect to happen in his two years in charge? Perhaps less debt,any sort of economic growth and less unemployment may have helped and certainly not a double dip recession? 3.If we are holding our own then why did the electorate not vote for more of the same yesterday? 4. I continually hear the Government spinning that all is rosey now never mind in five years time. 5.Do not place to much faith in London. If Boris wins he will remain as Mayor but I expect that the Tories will still lose seats in the capital.Also, did not most other cities reject the chance of future mayoral elections yesterday? 6. The Tories have not won an overall majority in a General Election since John Major in the early nineties and on past and present form this looks unlikely to change in 2015. saintmark1977
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5:52pm Fri 4 May 12

saintjak says...

saintmark1977 wrote:
saintjak Some interesting thoughts, 1. I did not put any time frame in other than reference to the period since 2010 when Mr Cameron assumed responsibility and became Prime Minister. What other real time period is there to make a judgement of him on? 2.What would it be reasonable to expect to happen in his two years in charge? Perhaps less debt,any sort of economic growth and less unemployment may have helped and certainly not a double dip recession? 3.If we are holding our own then why did the electorate not vote for more of the same yesterday? 4. I continually hear the Government spinning that all is rosey now never mind in five years time. 5.Do not place to much faith in London. If Boris wins he will remain as Mayor but I expect that the Tories will still lose seats in the capital.Also, did not most other cities reject the chance of future mayoral elections yesterday? 6. The Tories have not won an overall majority in a General Election since John Major in the early nineties and on past and present form this looks unlikely to change in 2015.
1. Maybe judge him in 13 years time? That seems a reasonable time frame.

2. Please feel free to give us your wisdom on how to do this seeing that other countries are going bankrupt?

3. We clearly are holding our own. We are no PIGS

4. Really? quotes please. I'd be interested to hear them

5. Funny that as it will be a Labour loss.

6. Red Ed is not electable - No one wants the Unions in charge and the Lib Dems are all but over.
[quote][p][bold]saintmark1977[/bold] wrote: saintjak Some interesting thoughts, 1. I did not put any time frame in other than reference to the period since 2010 when Mr Cameron assumed responsibility and became Prime Minister. What other real time period is there to make a judgement of him on? 2.What would it be reasonable to expect to happen in his two years in charge? Perhaps less debt,any sort of economic growth and less unemployment may have helped and certainly not a double dip recession? 3.If we are holding our own then why did the electorate not vote for more of the same yesterday? 4. I continually hear the Government spinning that all is rosey now never mind in five years time. 5.Do not place to much faith in London. If Boris wins he will remain as Mayor but I expect that the Tories will still lose seats in the capital.Also, did not most other cities reject the chance of future mayoral elections yesterday? 6. The Tories have not won an overall majority in a General Election since John Major in the early nineties and on past and present form this looks unlikely to change in 2015.[/p][/quote]1. Maybe judge him in 13 years time? That seems a reasonable time frame. 2. Please feel free to give us your wisdom on how to do this seeing that other countries are going bankrupt? 3. We clearly are holding our own. We are no PIGS 4. Really? quotes please. I'd be interested to hear them 5. Funny that as it will be a Labour loss. 6. Red Ed is not electable - No one wants the Unions in charge and the Lib Dems are all but over. saintjak
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5:53pm Fri 4 May 12

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
TUSC results for Southampton.

BARGATE SHARON CUTLER 82 4%
Bassett Neil Kelly 62 2%
Bevois Andrew Howe 63/2%
Bitterne Perry McMillan 77/3%
Bitterne Park Nick Chaffey 136/2%
Coxford Tim Cutter 57 2%
Harefield Graham O'Reilly 75 2%
Peartree Josh Asker 139 2%
Portswood David Rawlinson 50 2%
Redbridge Pete Wyatt 220 8%
Swaythling Kev Hayes 76 3%
Shirley Mike King 52 2%
Woolston Gavin Marsh 138 5%

Total 1227
Oh, southy – didn’t TUSC do badly?

Here is the vote in 2012 compared to 2011 is all the Southampton wards where TUSC stood in both years.

Bargate – 82 in 2012, 158 in 2011.
Bassett – 62 in 2012, 110 in 2011.
Bevois - 63 in 2012, 74 in 2011.
Bitterne - 77 in 2012, 163 in 2011.
Bitterne Park – 136 in 2012, 264 in 2011.
Harefield - 75 in 2012, 117 in 2011.
Portswood - 50 in 2012, 88 in 2011.
Redbridge – 220 in 2012, 212 in 2011.
Shirley - 52 in 2012, 125 in 2011.
Swaythling - 76 in 2012, 104 in 2011.
Woolston – 138 in 2012, 163 in 2011

This is a much bigger decline in the TUSC vote than the turnout decline.

But congratulation to you Peter as the only one to actually post more votes than last year.

However, you were telling us at 4:13pm Thu 19 Apr 12 “Rebridge a Tory seat up for gabs, Torys here have lost this seat hands down, its a question who will take it Labour or the TUSC”. Ha, ha – you couldn’t even beat the Tory who got over three times your vote.

And, nationally? Yet another blank for TUSC.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: TUSC results for Southampton. BARGATE SHARON CUTLER 82 4% Bassett Neil Kelly 62 2% Bevois Andrew Howe 63/2% Bitterne Perry McMillan 77/3% Bitterne Park Nick Chaffey 136/2% Coxford Tim Cutter 57 2% Harefield Graham O'Reilly 75 2% Peartree Josh Asker 139 2% Portswood David Rawlinson 50 2% Redbridge Pete Wyatt 220 8% Swaythling Kev Hayes 76 3% Shirley Mike King 52 2% Woolston Gavin Marsh 138 5% Total 1227[/p][/quote]Oh, southy – didn’t TUSC do badly? Here is the vote in 2012 compared to 2011 is all the Southampton wards where TUSC stood in both years. Bargate – 82 in 2012, 158 in 2011. Bassett – 62 in 2012, 110 in 2011. Bevois - 63 in 2012, 74 in 2011. Bitterne - 77 in 2012, 163 in 2011. Bitterne Park – 136 in 2012, 264 in 2011. Harefield - 75 in 2012, 117 in 2011. Portswood - 50 in 2012, 88 in 2011. Redbridge – 220 in 2012, 212 in 2011. Shirley - 52 in 2012, 125 in 2011. Swaythling - 76 in 2012, 104 in 2011. Woolston – 138 in 2012, 163 in 2011 This is a much bigger decline in the TUSC vote than the turnout decline. But congratulation to you Peter as the only one to actually post more votes than last year. However, you were telling us at 4:13pm Thu 19 Apr 12 “Rebridge a Tory seat up for gabs, Torys here have lost this seat hands down, its a question who will take it Labour or the TUSC”. Ha, ha – you couldn’t even beat the Tory who got over three times your vote. And, nationally? Yet another blank for TUSC. freefinker
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5:56pm Fri 4 May 12

saintjak says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
saintjak wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !!
go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.
Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot .
Another good post... You are right about one thing I am angry - as its me and others like me that will be picking up the cost for years to come. Have you even put your hand in your pocket yet? Did I result to personal insults? Lost my marbles, Thick, Pompous idiot, Fairy - No. You talk alot but say nothing. Hence why you vote Labour. I'll say again the 'Bottomless Pitt Fantasy Money party' will never be trusted with the national public purse again. Simple as...
Pity that you didnt read the answers to the questions that you set and decided to answer for me. . And please dont ever try and mention the "trust" chestnut with me. Ive experienced more dodgy Tories over the years than i can remember. . And already after not two years its SLEAZE all the way.
You have no answers thats part of your charm obviously. And you sound bitter so are not speaking from strength. Also you consistantly talk sleeze as if Labour are immune from it? Tony Blair anyone... Labour -'vote for us, we'll line your pockets with money we don't have, bring the country to its knees and then go live in our big houses and never be seen again' thanks for that. Don't worry though, middle England will pick up the pieces, we always do.
People like you are so sa. . Even when something is decided democraticaly you still cannot accept the outcome. . You still cannot accept that the people ( the residents of Southampton ) have made a decision ...... They dont want Tory control .... They have had it for some four years or so and they dont like it. . It is their right as subjects of a democratic Country to put their cross where they want to. . Now if you and a few others cant live with that then go and live somewhere else ....... in particular where democracy is the norm. . Good luck .... i hope that you find peace in your head ..... If not there are a few beds at Tatchbury
Abuse again, that is disapointing but to be expected. It is a very sad day for Southampton Fortunately the Goverment won't be changing anythime soon.
No its not a sad day for Southampton ......... Its sad that YOU cannot take it like like a grown up. . Get some backbone (no insult just advice) because there is a lot more to come in the next three years. . Three years and counting .... Unless the Lib Dems finally call it a day .... Then back to the country and the boot for slimey Dave
Lets hope they do call it a day.

Red Ed is un-electable, no one wants the unions in charge.

Easy win...
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Oh dear it seems quite evident that the usual Tory posters are quite upset with the results of our local election. . But they need to realise ... and quite soon ..... that their beloved party really is screwing not only the people of this city but as a nation. . Almost everything that this Country was good at or loved was screwed or sold off by the Tories. . Locally we had a leader who thought he was invincable. Constant ego trips, prepared to take a fight some workers and then bribe others. . He was prepared to risk legal action costing many millions because of his priciples ..... He had a workforce that was totally demoralised and rock bottom ...... . His council has received an almighty blow from the electorate and even greater than he could have anticipated. . The people of this City do not want a Tory Council. . Get over it !![/p][/quote]go on just say it 'its Thatchers fault' brilliant... why not comment on the 13 years you had to put things right? No? ok then I will. The countries in financial ruin thanks to the bottomless pitt fantasy money party! Typical Labour - takes no responsibility what so ever and its always someone elses fault.[/p][/quote]Well you are quite excitable and angry arent you ...... anyone think that you have lost something ..... well perhaps its your marbles??. . I dont think in any post for several years i have mentioned M Thatcher .... So you are wrong to answer the question that you asked. . Once again you ask me a question then answer it for me . ........ Are you really that thick. . As regards the 13 years ... well where were you ? Still in shorts .... Tories could not even put up an opposition for 13 years ..... There were useless .... a spent force where sleaze DOMINATED the party. . Even after 13 years it has taken a marriage with Lib Dems to give them a chance of power because still no ene trusts them. . So before you rant and rave like a little fairy i suggest you read a bit and get your facts right .... You pompous idiot .[/p][/quote]Another good post... You are right about one thing I am angry - as its me and others like me that will be picking up the cost for years to come. Have you even put your hand in your pocket yet? Did I result to personal insults? Lost my marbles, Thick, Pompous idiot, Fairy - No. You talk alot but say nothing. Hence why you vote Labour. I'll say again the 'Bottomless Pitt Fantasy Money party' will never be trusted with the national public purse again. Simple as...[/p][/quote]Pity that you didnt read the answers to the questions that you set and decided to answer for me. . And please dont ever try and mention the "trust" chestnut with me. Ive experienced more dodgy Tories over the years than i can remember. . And already after not two years its SLEAZE all the way.[/p][/quote]You have no answers thats part of your charm obviously. And you sound bitter so are not speaking from strength. Also you consistantly talk sleeze as if Labour are immune from it? Tony Blair anyone... Labour -'vote for us, we'll line your pockets with money we don't have, bring the country to its knees and then go live in our big houses and never be seen again' thanks for that. Don't worry though, middle England will pick up the pieces, we always do.[/p][/quote]People like you are so sa. . Even when something is decided democraticaly you still cannot accept the outcome. . You still cannot accept that the people ( the residents of Southampton ) have made a decision ...... They dont want Tory control .... They have had it for some four years or so and they dont like it. . It is their right as subjects of a democratic Country to put their cross where they want to. . Now if you and a few others cant live with that then go and live somewhere else ....... in particular where democracy is the norm. . Good luck .... i hope that you find peace in your head ..... If not there are a few beds at Tatchbury[/p][/quote]Abuse again, that is disapointing but to be expected. It is a very sad day for Southampton Fortunately the Goverment won't be changing anythime soon.[/p][/quote]No its not a sad day for Southampton ......... Its sad that YOU cannot take it like like a grown up. . Get some backbone (no insult just advice) because there is a lot more to come in the next three years. . Three years and counting .... Unless the Lib Dems finally call it a day .... Then back to the country and the boot for slimey Dave[/p][/quote]Lets hope they do call it a day. Red Ed is un-electable, no one wants the unions in charge. Easy win... saintjak
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6:26pm Fri 4 May 12

skeptik says...

Same old tosh, time after time in my 65 years it has been hooray we have got rid of them.Had anyone of those self seeking incompetent administrations over all of those years got it anywhere near right they would still be in power.
Same old tosh, time after time in my 65 years it has been hooray we have got rid of them.Had anyone of those self seeking incompetent administrations over all of those years got it anywhere near right they would still be in power. skeptik
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6:44pm Fri 4 May 12

saintmark1977 says...

Saintjak

Again, interesting if ever increasingly illogical comments.

1.Name any previous modern day Prime Minister who remained in power for 15 years?

2.Running the UK economy (or for that matter any other in Europe) is thankfully not my responsibility. I merely comment on the facts as documented ie increased debt,no growth and more unemployment since 2010 . However is it not supposed to be the responsibility of Prime Ministers as first Lords of the Treasury to run the U K economy?

3.Clearly holding our own? I repeat, not according to the views of voters yesterday.

4.Listen to any coalition government reported interview on the T V, radio or read most newspapers but oddly not so much the Sun and the Times now?

5. If the current Mayor is a Tory and is reelected then how is that a Labour loss?

6. If (and I agree that it is a big if) yesterdays results were repeated at a General Election then Labour would have a majority of 80 odd seats.Unelectable? Again yesterdays voters would appear to think not.

Having said all of the above we can appear to agree that hopefully the Liberals are finished.

Further, if your log in is not bogus it would appear to indicate that we are fellow Saints supporters? If so I wish you all the best for next season in the Premiership.
Saintjak Again, interesting if ever increasingly illogical comments. 1.Name any previous modern day Prime Minister who remained in power for 15 years? 2.Running the UK economy (or for that matter any other in Europe) is thankfully not my responsibility. I merely comment on the facts as documented ie increased debt,no growth and more unemployment since 2010 . However is it not supposed to be the responsibility of Prime Ministers as first Lords of the Treasury to run the U K economy? 3.Clearly holding our own? I repeat, not according to the views of voters yesterday. 4.Listen to any coalition government reported interview on the T V, radio or read most newspapers but oddly not so much the Sun and the Times now? 5. If the current Mayor is a Tory and is reelected then how is that a Labour loss? 6. If (and I agree that it is a big if) yesterdays results were repeated at a General Election then Labour would have a majority of 80 odd seats.Unelectable? Again yesterdays voters would appear to think not. Having said all of the above we can appear to agree that hopefully the Liberals are finished. Further, if your log in is not bogus it would appear to indicate that we are fellow Saints supporters? If so I wish you all the best for next season in the Premiership. saintmark1977
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6:52pm Fri 4 May 12

George4th says...

saintmark1977 wrote:
George4th

Whilst I respect your obviously strongly held views I think your remark "Some people in Southampton who can't see beyond their noses etc etc" may be one that upon a period of calm reflection you may wish to withdraw?

I assume you are refering to the electorate and if so surely you should at least be magnanimous in accepting their decision even if it is one with which you do not agree in person?

After all what happened yesterday was simply "democracy at work"
"Some people in Southampton who can't see beyond their noses etc etc""
No, I'll stick with that - I'm quite happy about it. I think it's in the genes and goes back to the days when Southampton had a strike virtually everyday of the week, mostly over nothing. In those days, a lot of Southampton people couldn't see beyond their noses and drove all the big businesses away!
>
This time they couldn't see beyond their noses and have voted in the party that has a history of going backwards - businesses won't come while they are in power.
>
If it wasn't for those being paid by the public purse we would be a virtual ghost town!
[quote][p][bold]saintmark1977[/bold] wrote: George4th Whilst I respect your obviously strongly held views I think your remark "Some people in Southampton who can't see beyond their noses etc etc" may be one that upon a period of calm reflection you may wish to withdraw? I assume you are refering to the electorate and if so surely you should at least be magnanimous in accepting their decision even if it is one with which you do not agree in person? After all what happened yesterday was simply "democracy at work"[/p][/quote]"Some people in Southampton who can't see beyond their noses etc etc"" No, I'll stick with that - I'm quite happy about it. I think it's in the genes and goes back to the days when Southampton had a strike virtually everyday of the week, mostly over nothing. In those days, a lot of Southampton people couldn't see beyond their noses and drove all the big businesses away! > This time they couldn't see beyond their noses and have voted in the party that has a history of going backwards - businesses won't come while they are in power. > If it wasn't for those being paid by the public purse we would be a virtual ghost town! George4th
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6:52pm Fri 4 May 12

OceansofRed says...

Can't wait to see what services are cut by Labour in order to restore the pay cuts.ngoing to be fascinating.
Can't wait to see what services are cut by Labour in order to restore the pay cuts.ngoing to be fascinating. OceansofRed
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6:54pm Fri 4 May 12

saintjak says...

saintmark1977 wrote:
Saintjak

Again, interesting if ever increasingly illogical comments.

1.Name any previous modern day Prime Minister who remained in power for 15 years?

2.Running the UK economy (or for that matter any other in Europe) is thankfully not my responsibility. I merely comment on the facts as documented ie increased debt,no growth and more unemployment since 2010 . However is it not supposed to be the responsibility of Prime Ministers as first Lords of the Treasury to run the U K economy?

3.Clearly holding our own? I repeat, not according to the views of voters yesterday.

4.Listen to any coalition government reported interview on the T V, radio or read most newspapers but oddly not so much the Sun and the Times now?

5. If the current Mayor is a Tory and is reelected then how is that a Labour loss?

6. If (and I agree that it is a big if) yesterdays results were repeated at a General Election then Labour would have a majority of 80 odd seats.Unelectable? Again yesterdays voters would appear to think not.

Having said all of the above we can appear to agree that hopefully the Liberals are finished.

Further, if your log in is not bogus it would appear to indicate that we are fellow Saints supporters? If so I wish you all the best for next season in the Premiership.
looks as though we will never agree so football can win!

Off out now to help support the economy

good day to you

:D
[quote][p][bold]saintmark1977[/bold] wrote: Saintjak Again, interesting if ever increasingly illogical comments. 1.Name any previous modern day Prime Minister who remained in power for 15 years? 2.Running the UK economy (or for that matter any other in Europe) is thankfully not my responsibility. I merely comment on the facts as documented ie increased debt,no growth and more unemployment since 2010 . However is it not supposed to be the responsibility of Prime Ministers as first Lords of the Treasury to run the U K economy? 3.Clearly holding our own? I repeat, not according to the views of voters yesterday. 4.Listen to any coalition government reported interview on the T V, radio or read most newspapers but oddly not so much the Sun and the Times now? 5. If the current Mayor is a Tory and is reelected then how is that a Labour loss? 6. If (and I agree that it is a big if) yesterdays results were repeated at a General Election then Labour would have a majority of 80 odd seats.Unelectable? Again yesterdays voters would appear to think not. Having said all of the above we can appear to agree that hopefully the Liberals are finished. Further, if your log in is not bogus it would appear to indicate that we are fellow Saints supporters? If so I wish you all the best for next season in the Premiership.[/p][/quote]looks as though we will never agree so football can win! Off out now to help support the economy good day to you :D saintjak
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7:27pm Fri 4 May 12

saintmark1977 says...

George4th

Your last comments surprise me not. They will, I am sure, merely confirm the opinion that all fair minded people will have already previously formed of you.

I am off for my tea now and wish you all the best for the future.
George4th Your last comments surprise me not. They will, I am sure, merely confirm the opinion that all fair minded people will have already previously formed of you. I am off for my tea now and wish you all the best for the future. saintmark1977
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8:42pm Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
TUSC results for Southampton.

BARGATE SHARON CUTLER 82 4%
Bassett Neil Kelly 62 2%
Bevois Andrew Howe 63/2%
Bitterne Perry McMillan 77/3%
Bitterne Park Nick Chaffey 136/2%
Coxford Tim Cutter 57 2%
Harefield Graham O'Reilly 75 2%
Peartree Josh Asker 139 2%
Portswood David Rawlinson 50 2%
Redbridge Pete Wyatt 220 8%
Swaythling Kev Hayes 76 3%
Shirley Mike King 52 2%
Woolston Gavin Marsh 138 5%

Total 1227
Oh, southy – didn’t TUSC do badly?

Here is the vote in 2012 compared to 2011 is all the Southampton wards where TUSC stood in both years.

Bargate – 82 in 2012, 158 in 2011.
Bassett – 62 in 2012, 110 in 2011.
Bevois - 63 in 2012, 74 in 2011.
Bitterne - 77 in 2012, 163 in 2011.
Bitterne Park – 136 in 2012, 264 in 2011.
Harefield - 75 in 2012, 117 in 2011.
Portswood - 50 in 2012, 88 in 2011.
Redbridge – 220 in 2012, 212 in 2011.
Shirley - 52 in 2012, 125 in 2011.
Swaythling - 76 in 2012, 104 in 2011.
Woolston – 138 in 2012, 163 in 2011

This is a much bigger decline in the TUSC vote than the turnout decline.

But congratulation to you Peter as the only one to actually post more votes than last year.

However, you were telling us at 4:13pm Thu 19 Apr 12 “Rebridge a Tory seat up for gabs, Torys here have lost this seat hands down, its a question who will take it Labour or the TUSC”. Ha, ha – you couldn’t even beat the Tory who got over three times your vote.

And, nationally? Yet another blank for TUSC.
It was a case who would people vote for the TUSC or Labour in Redbridge, Labour pick up a few hundred Tory voters.
Your wrong on the TUSC being blank I know Dave Nellist never got relected but others did like Anti-Cuts Cllr Richard Bertin re-elected to the Vale of Glamorgan, the TUSC is only part of a much bigger system, but in the end we will all end up under the one TUSC banner, very much like how the Labour Party was first formed, that was started by the Socialist Party and a Railway Union, the very same 2 groups that got the TUSC started and all the time more are joining or switching over to the TUSC.
If you check the % no one got below 2% of the vote for the TUSC.
TUSC results for Southampton.

BARGATE SHARON CUTLER 82 4%
Bassett Neil Kelly 62 2%
Bevois Andrew Howe 63/2%
Bitterne Perry McMillan 77/3%
Bitterne Park Nick Chaffey 136/2%
Coxford Tim Cutter 57 2%
Harefield Graham O'Reilly 75 2%
Peartree Josh Asker 139 2%
Portswood David Rawlinson 50 2%
Redbridge Pete Wyatt 220 8%
Swaythling Kev Hayes 76 3%
Shirley Mike King 52 2%
Woolston Gavin Marsh 138 5%
Total 1227
Labour and Unite + Unison made Redbridge a targett area to try and break my support they failed, and that was even with a poor turn out this year only 27% voted what was it last year for Redbridge 30% or 33%, just got to get my message across to Locals more, and get the timing right.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: TUSC results for Southampton. BARGATE SHARON CUTLER 82 4% Bassett Neil Kelly 62 2% Bevois Andrew Howe 63/2% Bitterne Perry McMillan 77/3% Bitterne Park Nick Chaffey 136/2% Coxford Tim Cutter 57 2% Harefield Graham O'Reilly 75 2% Peartree Josh Asker 139 2% Portswood David Rawlinson 50 2% Redbridge Pete Wyatt 220 8% Swaythling Kev Hayes 76 3% Shirley Mike King 52 2% Woolston Gavin Marsh 138 5% Total 1227[/p][/quote]Oh, southy – didn’t TUSC do badly? Here is the vote in 2012 compared to 2011 is all the Southampton wards where TUSC stood in both years. Bargate – 82 in 2012, 158 in 2011. Bassett – 62 in 2012, 110 in 2011. Bevois - 63 in 2012, 74 in 2011. Bitterne - 77 in 2012, 163 in 2011. Bitterne Park – 136 in 2012, 264 in 2011. Harefield - 75 in 2012, 117 in 2011. Portswood - 50 in 2012, 88 in 2011. Redbridge – 220 in 2012, 212 in 2011. Shirley - 52 in 2012, 125 in 2011. Swaythling - 76 in 2012, 104 in 2011. Woolston – 138 in 2012, 163 in 2011 This is a much bigger decline in the TUSC vote than the turnout decline. But congratulation to you Peter as the only one to actually post more votes than last year. However, you were telling us at 4:13pm Thu 19 Apr 12 “Rebridge a Tory seat up for gabs, Torys here have lost this seat hands down, its a question who will take it Labour or the TUSC”. Ha, ha – you couldn’t even beat the Tory who got over three times your vote. And, nationally? Yet another blank for TUSC.[/p][/quote]It was a case who would people vote for the TUSC or Labour in Redbridge, Labour pick up a few hundred Tory voters. Your wrong on the TUSC being blank I know Dave Nellist never got relected but others did like Anti-Cuts Cllr Richard Bertin re-elected to the Vale of Glamorgan, the TUSC is only part of a much bigger system, but in the end we will all end up under the one TUSC banner, very much like how the Labour Party was first formed, that was started by the Socialist Party and a Railway Union, the very same 2 groups that got the TUSC started and all the time more are joining or switching over to the TUSC. If you check the % no one got below 2% of the vote for the TUSC. TUSC results for Southampton. BARGATE SHARON CUTLER 82 4% Bassett Neil Kelly 62 2% Bevois Andrew Howe 63/2% Bitterne Perry McMillan 77/3% Bitterne Park Nick Chaffey 136/2% Coxford Tim Cutter 57 2% Harefield Graham O'Reilly 75 2% Peartree Josh Asker 139 2% Portswood David Rawlinson 50 2% Redbridge Pete Wyatt 220 8% Swaythling Kev Hayes 76 3% Shirley Mike King 52 2% Woolston Gavin Marsh 138 5% Total 1227 Labour and Unite + Unison made Redbridge a targett area to try and break my support they failed, and that was even with a poor turn out this year only 27% voted what was it last year for Redbridge 30% or 33%, just got to get my message across to Locals more, and get the timing right. southy
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8:43pm Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes
Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes southy
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8:59pm Fri 4 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

southy wrote:
Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes
The TUSC is not a vote catcher, try a new name, like the Real Labour Party or something catchy like the AntiTory League or something.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes[/p][/quote]The TUSC is not a vote catcher, try a new name, like the Real Labour Party or something catchy like the AntiTory League or something. OSPREYSAINT
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9:23pm Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
southy wrote:
Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes
The TUSC is not a vote catcher, try a new name, like the Real Labour Party or something catchy like the AntiTory League or something.
lol Osprey tell me would you trust an estate agent
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes[/p][/quote]The TUSC is not a vote catcher, try a new name, like the Real Labour Party or something catchy like the AntiTory League or something.[/p][/quote]lol Osprey tell me would you trust an estate agent southy
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9:24pm Fri 4 May 12

loosehead says...

I've just had my phone going telling me I'm a traitor to the working class?
Surely it will be the WORKING class that will be hit the hardest when Labour have to put up council tax?
The Council workers expect their wages to be resztored Williams agreed with Unite that a portion of that money could be found scrapping the pensioners discount?
yet not all of it's going in order to curry votes so when are they getting their pay restored ? will it be back paid & how are the council going to pay for it?
I know that companies make synergies to save money ( redundancies) I think the Government pay out so much redundancy & the companies the rest but the employer will save on tax & NI stamp payments will this be enough to give pay rises?
Will the workers wait until next year for just their money restored or will they demand back pay or payment made this year?
They are being asked to drop all legal challenges but will they & what happens if the court cases go ahead?
labour has promised so much I ask you Anti Tories on here how in the first year are they going to deliver on their promises?
God if they can & no council tax rises next year I will bow down to them as they will be creating a miracle but please tell me HOW they're going to do it?
I've just had my phone going telling me I'm a traitor to the working class? Surely it will be the WORKING class that will be hit the hardest when Labour have to put up council tax? The Council workers expect their wages to be resztored Williams agreed with Unite that a portion of that money could be found scrapping the pensioners discount? yet not all of it's going in order to curry votes so when are they getting their pay restored ? will it be back paid & how are the council going to pay for it? I know that companies make synergies to save money ( redundancies) I think the Government pay out so much redundancy & the companies the rest but the employer will save on tax & NI stamp payments will this be enough to give pay rises? Will the workers wait until next year for just their money restored or will they demand back pay or payment made this year? They are being asked to drop all legal challenges but will they & what happens if the court cases go ahead? labour has promised so much I ask you Anti Tories on here how in the first year are they going to deliver on their promises? God if they can & no council tax rises next year I will bow down to them as they will be creating a miracle but please tell me HOW they're going to do it? loosehead
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9:32pm Fri 4 May 12

loosehead says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
southy wrote:
Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes
The TUSC is not a vote catcher, try a new name, like the Real Labour Party or something catchy like the AntiTory League or something.
Please tell me if you will come on here & knock the council if they don't deliver their promises?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes[/p][/quote]The TUSC is not a vote catcher, try a new name, like the Real Labour Party or something catchy like the AntiTory League or something.[/p][/quote]Please tell me if you will come on here & knock the council if they don't deliver their promises? loosehead
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9:59pm Fri 4 May 12

southy says...

loosehead wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
southy wrote:
Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes
The TUSC is not a vote catcher, try a new name, like the Real Labour Party or something catchy like the AntiTory League or something.
Please tell me if you will come on here & knock the council if they don't deliver their promises?
You are not watching I have been knocking the Labour Party, because they do not represent the people that the party was first set up to do.
The Labour party is on it final notice if they don't deliver then they will lose massive support and they will get another back lash from the voters, but next time the people will have the TUSC to vote for, so there will be no voting Torys to get the Labour party removed.
The TUSC will repersent the working class.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes[/p][/quote]The TUSC is not a vote catcher, try a new name, like the Real Labour Party or something catchy like the AntiTory League or something.[/p][/quote]Please tell me if you will come on here & knock the council if they don't deliver their promises?[/p][/quote]You are not watching I have been knocking the Labour Party, because they do not represent the people that the party was first set up to do. The Labour party is on it final notice if they don't deliver then they will lose massive support and they will get another back lash from the voters, but next time the people will have the TUSC to vote for, so there will be no voting Torys to get the Labour party removed. The TUSC will repersent the working class. southy
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11:05pm Fri 4 May 12

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
southy wrote:
Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes
The TUSC is not a vote catcher, try a new name, like the Real Labour Party or something catchy like the AntiTory League or something.
Please tell me if you will come on here & knock the council if they don't deliver their promises?
You are not watching I have been knocking the Labour Party, because they do not represent the people that the party was first set up to do.
The Labour party is on it final notice if they don't deliver then they will lose massive support and they will get another back lash from the voters, but next time the people will have the TUSC to vote for, so there will be no voting Torys to get the Labour party removed.
The TUSC will repersent the working class.
.. dream on.

I think most people are aware there is little to choose between Labour and Tory, BUT they didn't (nor will they ever) flock to your Trotskyists - who are only capable of fantasy politics in an imaginary utopian world.

Oh, and Richard Joel Bertin was elected as an ‘Independent’ in Court ward of Vale of Glamorgan. Sorry, you can’t claim him. It’s still ‘nul points’ for TUSC.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes[/p][/quote]The TUSC is not a vote catcher, try a new name, like the Real Labour Party or something catchy like the AntiTory League or something.[/p][/quote]Please tell me if you will come on here & knock the council if they don't deliver their promises?[/p][/quote]You are not watching I have been knocking the Labour Party, because they do not represent the people that the party was first set up to do. The Labour party is on it final notice if they don't deliver then they will lose massive support and they will get another back lash from the voters, but next time the people will have the TUSC to vote for, so there will be no voting Torys to get the Labour party removed. The TUSC will repersent the working class.[/p][/quote].. dream on. I think most people are aware there is little to choose between Labour and Tory, BUT they didn't (nor will they ever) flock to your Trotskyists - who are only capable of fantasy politics in an imaginary utopian world. Oh, and Richard Joel Bertin was elected as an ‘Independent’ in Court ward of Vale of Glamorgan. Sorry, you can’t claim him. It’s still ‘nul points’ for TUSC. freefinker
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11:11pm Fri 4 May 12

J.P.M says...

Labour swept back to power in Southampton in a stunning election victory today.

Labour gained 11 seats taking a majority control of the council for first time in more than a decade.

As the final declaration came in just after 2am, Labour councillors and supporters gathered to chant out their new number of elected members - 30.

The result decides who will run the city council for the next two years, as there are no elections next year.
Labour swept back to power in Southampton in a stunning election victory today. Labour gained 11 seats taking a majority control of the council for first time in more than a decade. As the final declaration came in just after 2am, Labour councillors and supporters gathered to chant out their new number of elected members - 30. The result decides who will run the city council for the next two years, as there are no elections next year. J.P.M
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11:20pm Fri 4 May 12

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes
.. no, not me.

I said TUSC would NOT improve their total vote in Southampton and I was right.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes[/p][/quote].. no, not me. I said TUSC would NOT improve their total vote in Southampton and I was right. freefinker
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12:53am Sat 5 May 12

George4th says...

saintmark1977 wrote:
George4th

Your last comments surprise me not. They will, I am sure, merely confirm the opinion that all fair minded people will have already previously formed of you.

I am off for my tea now and wish you all the best for the future.
I should worry about opinion? No. My head is always above the parapet!
I simply believe in free markets and freedom of choice. I support the guy who is prepared to earn a living for themselves through hard work and endeavour - the vasy majority of these people come from the private sector...........the life blood of every country!
[quote][p][bold]saintmark1977[/bold] wrote: George4th Your last comments surprise me not. They will, I am sure, merely confirm the opinion that all fair minded people will have already previously formed of you. I am off for my tea now and wish you all the best for the future.[/p][/quote]I should worry about opinion? No. My head is always above the parapet! I simply believe in free markets and freedom of choice. I support the guy who is prepared to earn a living for themselves through hard work and endeavour - the vasy majority of these people come from the private sector...........the life blood of every country! George4th
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7:09am Sat 5 May 12

SotonGreen says...

I would like to mention the performance put in by our Green candidates across the city campaigning for environment and a fair social justice settlement for all citizens. This paid off pushing TUSC and liberal democrat alike into 4th or worse and placing Green party as main alternative to the big two parties. A big thanks to our voters and supporters.
I would like to mention the performance put in by our Green candidates across the city campaigning for environment and a fair social justice settlement for all citizens. This paid off pushing TUSC and liberal democrat alike into 4th or worse and placing Green party as main alternative to the big two parties. A big thanks to our voters and supporters. SotonGreen
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7:33am Sat 5 May 12

loosehead says...

SotonGreen wrote:
I would like to mention the performance put in by our Green candidates across the city campaigning for environment and a fair social justice settlement for all citizens. This paid off pushing TUSC and liberal democrat alike into 4th or worse and placing Green party as main alternative to the big two parties. A big thanks to our voters and supporters.
If your party & UKIP are so popular why didn't you stand in all seats?
Redbridge I noticed no UKIP or Green party yet UKIP says they're gaining votes from all parties so why didn't they stand in what Southy calls a Labour seat?
[quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: I would like to mention the performance put in by our Green candidates across the city campaigning for environment and a fair social justice settlement for all citizens. This paid off pushing TUSC and liberal democrat alike into 4th or worse and placing Green party as main alternative to the big two parties. A big thanks to our voters and supporters.[/p][/quote]If your party & UKIP are so popular why didn't you stand in all seats? Redbridge I noticed no UKIP or Green party yet UKIP says they're gaining votes from all parties so why didn't they stand in what Southy calls a Labour seat? loosehead
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7:53am Sat 5 May 12

SotonGreen says...

No great shock I suspect to learn we are a small party currently in Southampton with limited resources and have to deploy them where it makes sense. We also believe in localism and standing local candidates in each ward. These factors explain why we didn't stand in every ward this time. We are growing year on year however and will certainly be targeting a full slate for 2014 !
No great shock I suspect to learn we are a small party currently in Southampton with limited resources and have to deploy them where it makes sense. We also believe in localism and standing local candidates in each ward. These factors explain why we didn't stand in every ward this time. We are growing year on year however and will certainly be targeting a full slate for 2014 ! SotonGreen
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4:43pm Sat 5 May 12

loosehead says...

SotonGreen wrote:
No great shock I suspect to learn we are a small party currently in Southampton with limited resources and have to deploy them where it makes sense. We also believe in localism and standing local candidates in each ward. These factors explain why we didn't stand in every ward this time. We are growing year on year however and will certainly be targeting a full slate for 2014 !
Once I was considering voting UKIP but it's so obvious listening to Keeble that Southampton UKIP is only interested it taking votes from the Tories yet Michael Faragh said they were making inroads in all parties support so I can understand the Green/TUSC starting small & building up but why hasn't UKIP targeted working class areas where the migrant workers have made the most impact surely this would be a ripe hunting ground for them instead of a Tory ward?
[quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: No great shock I suspect to learn we are a small party currently in Southampton with limited resources and have to deploy them where it makes sense. We also believe in localism and standing local candidates in each ward. These factors explain why we didn't stand in every ward this time. We are growing year on year however and will certainly be targeting a full slate for 2014 ![/p][/quote]Once I was considering voting UKIP but it's so obvious listening to Keeble that Southampton UKIP is only interested it taking votes from the Tories yet Michael Faragh said they were making inroads in all parties support so I can understand the Green/TUSC starting small & building up but why hasn't UKIP targeted working class areas where the migrant workers have made the most impact surely this would be a ripe hunting ground for them instead of a Tory ward? loosehead
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4:44pm Sat 5 May 12

loosehead says...

Well at last the voters have seen sense Boris has won now to work the magic & get Southampton back!
Well at last the voters have seen sense Boris has won now to work the magic & get Southampton back! loosehead
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5:40pm Sat 5 May 12

Lone Ranger. says...

loosehead wrote:
Well at last the voters have seen sense Boris has won now to work the magic & get Southampton back!
Oh dear .... he beat an old man who some of the Labour party didnt really give their blessing to.
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He won by a few hundred votes.
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Boris had the backing of all the Tory gutter press which included a witch hunt by the Daily Fail.
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It was victory for an Alpaca lookalike ... well done
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Well at last the voters have seen sense Boris has won now to work the magic & get Southampton back![/p][/quote]Oh dear .... he beat an old man who some of the Labour party didnt really give their blessing to. . He won by a few hundred votes. . Boris had the backing of all the Tory gutter press which included a witch hunt by the Daily Fail. . It was victory for an Alpaca lookalike ... well done Lone Ranger.
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6:51pm Sat 5 May 12

J.P.M says...

This is the BEGINNING!!
This is the BEGINNING!! J.P.M
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9:40pm Sat 5 May 12

loosehead says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Well at last the voters have seen sense Boris has won now to work the magic & get Southampton back!
Oh dear .... he beat an old man who some of the Labour party didnt really give their blessing to.
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He won by a few hundred votes.
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Boris had the backing of all the Tory gutter press which included a witch hunt by the Daily Fail.
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It was victory for an Alpaca lookalike ... well done
At least he never had two unions using their members to bring misery to a whole city just to oust the council. then to boast about how they done it & that's why the people voted for him Like Mr.Williams did!
I watched Ken Livingstone on the Andrew Marr show he acted as if it was in the bag well it wasn't & it's funny that Boris won on a platform of lowering council tax?
If it works out well & the people of this city see services can be maintained & tax cut how long will we have a Labour council?
Do you honestly believe williams gives a stuff for this city?
He's lining himself up to stand in Denhams place & that's all he's worried about.
Royston & Moulton were accused of doing this so how about a bit of honesty & admit that's exactly what williams is doing?
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Well at last the voters have seen sense Boris has won now to work the magic & get Southampton back![/p][/quote]Oh dear .... he beat an old man who some of the Labour party didnt really give their blessing to. . He won by a few hundred votes. . Boris had the backing of all the Tory gutter press which included a witch hunt by the Daily Fail. . It was victory for an Alpaca lookalike ... well done[/p][/quote]At least he never had two unions using their members to bring misery to a whole city just to oust the council. then to boast about how they done it & that's why the people voted for him Like Mr.Williams did! I watched Ken Livingstone on the Andrew Marr show he acted as if it was in the bag well it wasn't & it's funny that Boris won on a platform of lowering council tax? If it works out well & the people of this city see services can be maintained & tax cut how long will we have a Labour council? Do you honestly believe williams gives a stuff for this city? He's lining himself up to stand in Denhams place & that's all he's worried about. Royston & Moulton were accused of doing this so how about a bit of honesty & admit that's exactly what williams is doing? loosehead
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9:30am Sun 6 May 12

SotonGreen says...

I dont see why the two aspirations are necessarily incompatible. Why do you assume that wanting to represent Southampton in parliament means that you "don't give a stuff about the city ?". Surely given the massive impact national policies have on the daily lives of all of us you should dedicate your efforts where you feel they will have most effect ? I see both local and national political office as both worthy pursuits capable of influencing lives for the better although in profoundly different ways.
I dont see why the two aspirations are necessarily incompatible. Why do you assume that wanting to represent Southampton in parliament means that you "don't give a stuff about the city ?". Surely given the massive impact national policies have on the daily lives of all of us you should dedicate your efforts where you feel they will have most effect ? I see both local and national political office as both worthy pursuits capable of influencing lives for the better although in profoundly different ways. SotonGreen
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12:17pm Mon 7 May 12

Shoong says...

It's a shame that the great democratic process of elections is befouled by what's obviously a protest vote, it's a shame when you have so many intelligent & not so intelligent people voting Labour just because things haven't gone to plan.

I'm not so sure people will be so happy when they get their
Council tax through. They'll moan & complain without realising that's what they voted for. Will the extra cash go into improving public services? Or will it find it's way into the pockets of the fingers that have now jockeying for position for a stab at the pie?
It's a shame that the great democratic process of elections is befouled by what's obviously a protest vote, it's a shame when you have so many intelligent & not so intelligent people voting Labour just because things haven't gone to plan. I'm not so sure people will be so happy when they get their Council tax through. They'll moan & complain without realising that's what they voted for. Will the extra cash go into improving public services? Or will it find it's way into the pockets of the fingers that have now jockeying for position for a stab at the pie? Shoong
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5:43pm Mon 7 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

loosehead wrote:
Well at last the voters have seen sense Boris has won now to work the magic & get Southampton back!
You are as much of a joke as Boris is!
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Well at last the voters have seen sense Boris has won now to work the magic & get Southampton back![/p][/quote]You are as much of a joke as Boris is! OSPREYSAINT
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5:46pm Mon 7 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

southy wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
southy wrote:
Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes
The TUSC is not a vote catcher, try a new name, like the Real Labour Party or something catchy like the AntiTory League or something.
lol Osprey tell me would you trust an estate agent
Depends upon what he was doing at the time!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes[/p][/quote]The TUSC is not a vote catcher, try a new name, like the Real Labour Party or something catchy like the AntiTory League or something.[/p][/quote]lol Osprey tell me would you trust an estate agent[/p][/quote]Depends upon what he was doing at the time! OSPREYSAINT
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5:47pm Mon 7 May 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

loosehead wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
southy wrote:
Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes
The TUSC is not a vote catcher, try a new name, like the Real Labour Party or something catchy like the AntiTory League or something.
Please tell me if you will come on here & knock the council if they don't deliver their promises?
I would only blame the previous incumbents, just like a good Tory would.....
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes[/p][/quote]The TUSC is not a vote catcher, try a new name, like the Real Labour Party or something catchy like the AntiTory League or something.[/p][/quote]Please tell me if you will come on here & knock the council if they don't deliver their promises?[/p][/quote]I would only blame the previous incumbents, just like a good Tory would..... OSPREYSAINT
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9:33pm Mon 7 May 12

loosehead says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
loosehead wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
southy wrote:
Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes
The TUSC is not a vote catcher, try a new name, like the Real Labour Party or something catchy like the AntiTory League or something.
Please tell me if you will come on here & knock the council if they don't deliver their promises?
I would only blame the previous incumbents, just like a good Tory would.....
I have tried to debate with you & have a sensible debate with you.
you then say I'm a joke why?
then this post?
really! are you forgetting the years of Bridles Labour council?
It's so funny reading Labour/TUSC people harping on about Maggie & trying to make out how good it was before her yet you forget that disastrous Labour council?
I was all for us going unilateral but for her to say it would cost the rate payers(tax) less than being ruled by Winchester was a joke & it proved to be exactly that & to pay for her pay rises she increased our taxes every year how can you compare that with a Tory council who took a 5.5% pay cut? you ought to look in the mirror before you call people a joke as you seem to be talking about yourself!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Oh Freefinker was it not you who said I would not even get 1% of the votes[/p][/quote]The TUSC is not a vote catcher, try a new name, like the Real Labour Party or something catchy like the AntiTory League or something.[/p][/quote]Please tell me if you will come on here & knock the council if they don't deliver their promises?[/p][/quote]I would only blame the previous incumbents, just like a good Tory would.....[/p][/quote]I have tried to debate with you & have a sensible debate with you. you then say I'm a joke why? then this post? really! are you forgetting the years of Bridles Labour council? It's so funny reading Labour/TUSC people harping on about Maggie & trying to make out how good it was before her yet you forget that disastrous Labour council? I was all for us going unilateral but for her to say it would cost the rate payers(tax) less than being ruled by Winchester was a joke & it proved to be exactly that & to pay for her pay rises she increased our taxes every year how can you compare that with a Tory council who took a 5.5% pay cut? you ought to look in the mirror before you call people a joke as you seem to be talking about yourself! loosehead
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11:37pm Tue 8 May 12

sottondave says...

mr nobody wrote:
Miss Laming said we put a lot of hard work into millbrook over last 3-4 yrs were you wanting to be a councillor when you were 15 then and still at school and as for the hard work, you mean other peoples and your party has just lied and said they did it, i would like to see a list of all the work your 2 so called councillors have achieved over last year for millbrook , some how i don't think it would take a large piece of paper to write it on, to much time spent in the pie shops judging by look of Furnell and Thrope i just hope that your lies really do sink you this time .
Mr Nobody
Oh dear its sour grapes time. Labour has won Millbrook three times in a row now because we have been putting in the work. The problem Tories like you have was you thought personal abuse shifted votes. I started working the Millbrook ward in Sept 2008 and constantly since then.
This kind of crap you dish out does not work. We have increased the Labour vote from 21% to 49% and more and more people keep voting for us.
The reason we picked a 19yr old woman was because the Labour Party believes that our council representatives should reflect the kind of people they represent. You have underestimated Georgie, she deserved to win and worked hard for her success. She is no longer Miss laming but Councillor Laming.
Tories cannot fight elections on the issues and sad individuals like you will continue and deserve to lose more seats
One of the fat idiots Cllr Dave Furnell
[quote][p][bold]mr nobody[/bold] wrote: Miss Laming said we put a lot of hard work into millbrook over last 3-4 yrs were you wanting to be a councillor when you were 15 then and still at school and as for the hard work, you mean other peoples and your party has just lied and said they did it, i would like to see a list of all the work your 2 so called councillors have achieved over last year for millbrook , some how i don't think it would take a large piece of paper to write it on, to much time spent in the pie shops judging by look of Furnell and Thrope i just hope that your lies really do sink you this time .[/p][/quote]Mr Nobody Oh dear its sour grapes time. Labour has won Millbrook three times in a row now because we have been putting in the work. The problem Tories like you have was you thought personal abuse shifted votes. I started working the Millbrook ward in Sept 2008 and constantly since then. This kind of crap you dish out does not work. We have increased the Labour vote from 21% to 49% and more and more people keep voting for us. The reason we picked a 19yr old woman was because the Labour Party believes that our council representatives should reflect the kind of people they represent. You have underestimated Georgie, she deserved to win and worked hard for her success. She is no longer Miss laming but Councillor Laming. Tories cannot fight elections on the issues and sad individuals like you will continue and deserve to lose more seats One of the fat idiots Cllr Dave Furnell sottondave
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8:45am Wed 9 May 12

loosehead says...

sottondave wrote:
mr nobody wrote:
Miss Laming said we put a lot of hard work into millbrook over last 3-4 yrs were you wanting to be a councillor when you were 15 then and still at school and as for the hard work, you mean other peoples and your party has just lied and said they did it, i would like to see a list of all the work your 2 so called councillors have achieved over last year for millbrook , some how i don't think it would take a large piece of paper to write it on, to much time spent in the pie shops judging by look of Furnell and Thrope i just hope that your lies really do sink you this time .
Mr Nobody
Oh dear its sour grapes time. Labour has won Millbrook three times in a row now because we have been putting in the work. The problem Tories like you have was you thought personal abuse shifted votes. I started working the Millbrook ward in Sept 2008 and constantly since then.
This kind of crap you dish out does not work. We have increased the Labour vote from 21% to 49% and more and more people keep voting for us.
The reason we picked a 19yr old woman was because the Labour Party believes that our council representatives should reflect the kind of people they represent. You have underestimated Georgie, she deserved to win and worked hard for her success. She is no longer Miss laming but Councillor Laming.
Tories cannot fight elections on the issues and sad individuals like you will continue and deserve to lose more seats
One of the fat idiots Cllr Dave Furnell
I will not knock any one who has won a seat because of age or gender & as I don't know the lady can't say anything about her but she was given the majority of the votes that were placed so fair play.
I have already said what the Tory party needs to do & it has nothing to do with foul play.
Mr Furnell you are walking a fine tight rope let's see if you & your party can walk it if not 2 years isn't such a long time.
[quote][p][bold]sottondave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr nobody[/bold] wrote: Miss Laming said we put a lot of hard work into millbrook over last 3-4 yrs were you wanting to be a councillor when you were 15 then and still at school and as for the hard work, you mean other peoples and your party has just lied and said they did it, i would like to see a list of all the work your 2 so called councillors have achieved over last year for millbrook , some how i don't think it would take a large piece of paper to write it on, to much time spent in the pie shops judging by look of Furnell and Thrope i just hope that your lies really do sink you this time .[/p][/quote]Mr Nobody Oh dear its sour grapes time. Labour has won Millbrook three times in a row now because we have been putting in the work. The problem Tories like you have was you thought personal abuse shifted votes. I started working the Millbrook ward in Sept 2008 and constantly since then. This kind of crap you dish out does not work. We have increased the Labour vote from 21% to 49% and more and more people keep voting for us. The reason we picked a 19yr old woman was because the Labour Party believes that our council representatives should reflect the kind of people they represent. You have underestimated Georgie, she deserved to win and worked hard for her success. She is no longer Miss laming but Councillor Laming. Tories cannot fight elections on the issues and sad individuals like you will continue and deserve to lose more seats One of the fat idiots Cllr Dave Furnell[/p][/quote]I will not knock any one who has won a seat because of age or gender & as I don't know the lady can't say anything about her but she was given the majority of the votes that were placed so fair play. I have already said what the Tory party needs to do & it has nothing to do with foul play. Mr Furnell you are walking a fine tight rope let's see if you & your party can walk it if not 2 years isn't such a long time. loosehead
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