Miliband egged after praising Southampton voters (From Daily Echo)

Tories are a class act and have always been good losers.

What difference is there between Tory and Labour very little if you vote Tory you might as well vote Labour, or if you vote Labour you might as well vote Tory.
Labour true colour is Blue not Red using red is an insult to the working class.

No party understands our struggle. This was a sham of an election, poor turnout, reaction to the cuts made by Conservatives. Labour left this country in a mess and will now spend alot of time blaming the other party. We would of been better off voting fo rthe No8 Bus driver. There are no fixes or answers which ever party is in power is going to just tax the working man and woman in one way or the other. Milliband is just another non people elected leader who says what he thinks we want to hear. You have 6 months labour council,if things have not changed and the people who have lost their jobs in the recent months at the council do not get them back straight away then you better close the door as you leave the civic centre and give the keys to the No8 bus driver..

Scrambled Ed, union puppet

Labour record speaks for it self, when the Tory made cuts Labour voted for the cuts also, Labour Councillors and MP's crossing picket lines, and only got interested when it was getting close to the elections, only 3 Councillors refuse to cross the picket lines.
And what was it Milliband said "We want good Capitalism" and also said "We need reposable Capitalism"
Capitalism is no good for the working class only good for the few.

Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

Both Tory and Labour in the last 32 years put this country in the mess it is in today.

saintpope wrote:
No party understands our struggle. This was a sham of an election, poor turnout, reaction to the cuts made by Conservatives. Labour left this country in a mess and will now spend alot of time blaming the other party. We would of been better off voting fo rthe No8 Bus driver. There are no fixes or answers which ever party is in power is going to just tax the working man and woman in one way or the other. Milliband is just another non people elected leader who says what he thinks we want to hear. You have 6 months labour council,if things have not changed and the people who have lost their jobs in the recent months at the council do not get them back straight away then you better close the door as you leave the civic centre and give the keys to the No8 bus driver..

Miliband is elected by Labour Party members, saintpope.

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

Just because that's your opinion it doesn't meant to say it's the opinion of others. Royston Smith has been the undoing of the Tories in Southampton. Southampton city council aren't running the country your true blue friends are (at the moment!).... RBS has just repaid the loans from the government and quite a tidy sum. We are nowhere Greece and never have been - that's a load of nonsense!

Southy, enough now you're getting VERY boring and a sore loser.... the election is over - get over it.

Egg wasn't 'thrown' it was on his shoulder... sad person who feels they have to claim their five minutes of fame to do that!

For goodness sake get your facts right !!! There is NO no.8 bus anymore !

freemantlegirl2 wrote:

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

Just because that's your opinion it doesn't meant to say it's the opinion of others. Royston Smith has been the undoing of the Tories in Southampton. Southampton city council aren't running the country your true blue friends are (at the moment!).... RBS has just repaid the loans from the government and quite a tidy sum. We are nowhere Greece and never have been - that's a load of nonsense!

Southy, enough now you're getting VERY boring and a sore loser.... the election is over - get over it.

Egg wasn't 'thrown' it was on his shoulder... sad person who feels they have to claim their five minutes of fame to do that!

the thing is FM2 there is no difference between the major 3 partys they have all the same policy, and it will tell once again when Labour start to make cuts the Torys will vote with them, We needed some one in the council who would put up a fight for the working class.

ottostrasser wrote:
For goodness sake get your facts right !!! There is NO no.8 bus anymore !

Talking about getting facts right - had you not noticed the number 8 bus runs from Southampton to Hedge End via Bitterne and West End?

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

1. Egg throwing is Not quite the behaviour one would expect from the rich Tory voters who are very bad losers. It is also a waste of Food - some people in Southampton really are struggling - disgraceful conduct.

2. A global recession brought about by the bankers in the USA and UK and elsewhere was not entirely Labour's fault.

3. People who lived on credit and defaulted on much of it, not really Labour's fault.

4. Not regulating the banks and the finance industry while in power Labour's fault.

5. In spite of the austerity measures of the past 2 years of Con/LibDems our country's debt has gone up significantly.
6. Did not vote this time as they parties are all the same but to be honest serves Cons right with the policies they have - NHS reform, House of Lords reform, Mayors - why? Snooping policy - your web browsing- email etc. Tax reduction for their rich friends and more austerity for the very old with regard to the 'granny tax'. Prices have been rising and wages cut. Unemployment rising and a stupid idea of getting the elderly to work longer when the young have no jobs or opportunity for career progression. Keynesian economics worked after WW2 - clearly monetarism is not working and has got us into this mess.

I wonder if he popped in and saw that lying dirt-bag Margret Moran.

jaycee76 wrote:

saintpope wrote:
No party understands our struggle. This was a sham of an election, poor turnout, reaction to the cuts made by Conservatives. Labour left this country in a mess and will now spend alot of time blaming the other party. We would of been better off voting fo rthe No8 Bus driver. There are no fixes or answers which ever party is in power is going to just tax the working man and woman in one way or the other. Milliband is just another non people elected leader who says what he thinks we want to hear. You have 6 months labour council,if things have not changed and the people who have lost their jobs in the recent months at the council do not get them back straight away then you better close the door as you leave the civic centre and give the keys to the No8 bus driver..

Miliband is elected by Labour Party members, saintpope.

a minority number of people vote for him then?

How utterly shameful. I don't have any time for the Labour Party but Ed doesn't deserve such treatment.

Dresnez wrote:

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

1. Egg throwing is Not quite the behaviour one would expect from the rich Tory voters who are very bad losers. It is also a waste of Food - some people in Southampton really are struggling - disgraceful conduct.

2. A global recession brought about by the bankers in the USA and UK and elsewhere was not entirely Labour's fault.

3. People who lived on credit and defaulted on much of it, not really Labour's fault.

4. Not regulating the banks and the finance industry while in power Labour's fault.

5. In spite of the austerity measures of the past 2 years of Con/LibDems our country's debt has gone up significantly.
6. Did not vote this time as they parties are all the same but to be honest serves Cons right with the policies they have - NHS reform, House of Lords reform, Mayors - why? Snooping policy - your web browsing- email etc. Tax reduction for their rich friends and more austerity for the very old with regard to the 'granny tax'. Prices have been rising and wages cut. Unemployment rising and a stupid idea of getting the elderly to work longer when the young have no jobs or opportunity for career progression. Keynesian economics worked after WW2 - clearly monetarism is not working and has got us into this mess.

Thumbs up

I would suggest he is rather less concerned with the egg than with the fact that 70% of Southampton voters can't even make the effort to turn out to vote for anybody.

I voted Labour...BECAUSE while everyone is counting their pennies
and struggling to make end meet.This government gave every Rich person a tax cut therefore a pay rise, Now that's enough to tell me what this government is all about.

Mr price, the government cut your taxes too. This year the personal allowance went up and it goes up next year too.

Of course everyone focused on the 50p cut which shows that a government has got to get its priorities right and communicate better.

Rumour has it in Westminister he is now known as Red Egg, or Egg Miliband.

saintpope wrote:

jaycee76 wrote:

saintpope wrote:
No party understands our struggle. This was a sham of an election, poor turnout, reaction to the cuts made by Conservatives. Labour left this country in a mess and will now spend alot of time blaming the other party. We would of been better off voting fo rthe No8 Bus driver. There are no fixes or answers which ever party is in power is going to just tax the working man and woman in one way or the other. Milliband is just another non people elected leader who says what he thinks we want to hear. You have 6 months labour council,if things have not changed and the people who have lost their jobs in the recent months at the council do not get them back straight away then you better close the door as you leave the civic centre and give the keys to the No8 bus driver..

Miliband is elected by Labour Party members, saintpope.

a minority number of people vote for him then?

Majority of the members did, saintpope. Basic rule of democracy.

Really SHAME it hadn't been smack in the middle of his face....

Huffter wrote:
I would suggest he is rather less concerned with the egg than with the fact that 70% of Southampton voters can't even make the effort to turn out to vote for anybody.

Its the same every year regardless of who wins. Young people are largely turned off by politics and that is why the Tories tried to brine the oap vote with Council tax discounts. Didn't work though!

sotonbusdriver wrote:
Really SHAME it hadn't been smack in the middle of his face....

Where is John Prescott when you need him? At least it's the Tories that have egg on their faces, the yolk is definitely on them and they are visibly shell shocked.

jaycee76 wrote:

saintpope wrote:

jaycee76 wrote:

saintpope wrote:
No party understands our struggle. This was a sham of an election, poor turnout, reaction to the cuts made by Conservatives. Labour left this country in a mess and will now spend alot of time blaming the other party. We would of been better off voting fo rthe No8 Bus driver. There are no fixes or answers which ever party is in power is going to just tax the working man and woman in one way or the other. Milliband is just another non people elected leader who says what he thinks we want to hear. You have 6 months labour council,if things have not changed and the people who have lost their jobs in the recent months at the council do not get them back straight away then you better close the door as you leave the civic centre and give the keys to the No8 bus driver..

Miliband is elected by Labour Party members, saintpope.

a minority number of people vote for him then?

Majority of the members did, saintpope. Basic rule of democracy.

The majority of Tories didn't bother to vote for their own, why do you think that was?

The Torries will bleed us dry if we dont act now. The rich are getting richer and the poorer are getting to the stage where they cant even afford to eat.

saintjak wrote:
Rumour has it in Westminister he is now known as Red Egg, or Egg Miliband.

Only to the disrespectful morons like your good self.

Maine Lobster wrote:

Huffter wrote:
I would suggest he is rather less concerned with the egg than with the fact that 70% of Southampton voters can't even make the effort to turn out to vote for anybody.

Its the same every year regardless of who wins. Young people are largely turned off by politics and that is why the Tories tried to brine the oap vote with Council tax discounts. Didn't work though!

You are probably right, but to be honest, most youngsters have absolutely no interest in politics, they are not brought up to be interested. We have been let down by Government after Government of all Political persuasions, nothing is going enthuse our youngsters to stand up and make a difference.
The exception will be a few idiotic fanatics with one track minds, whose only weapon would be some form of Civil disobedience.

Did I actually just read a comment about 'rich tory voters'? Im a student, who was entitled to the full claim of EMA but chose not to take it (because I can earn my own money) and I am proud to say I voted Conservative. Conservatives were the only ones who actually made any positive contributions to Southampton and fully deserved to keep control of the council. Unfortunately due to people not understanding basic politics and how the economy works, Labour are now left in charge to doom Southampton! Well done voters, you've created a monster.

DrPepper0806 wrote:
Did I actually just read a comment about 'rich tory voters'? Im a student, who was entitled to the full claim of EMA but chose not to take it (because I can earn my own money) and I am proud to say I voted Conservative. Conservatives were the only ones who actually made any positive contributions to Southampton and fully deserved to keep control of the council. Unfortunately due to people not understanding basic politics and how the economy works, Labour are now left in charge to doom Southampton! Well done voters, you've created a monster.

Not it seems your parents have created as monster.......

people understand there was a Tax Cut for the rich - and a lower one which hardly helped anyone as they were whacked with the working hours on Working Tax credits.

When you have a family perhaps you'll think differently.

What do you want a flipping medal! my son survived on EMA, many young people can't get part-time jobs as hey there are a hell of a lot of young people unemployed at the moment, hmmm spot why this is ????

I just saw the news and voters, (not people who spout off on here) were saying that they're fed up with ConCam and George Osborne, who wouldn't know what 'struggle' was if it hit them on the chin....

Stubs wrote:
The Torries will bleed us dry if we dont act now. The rich are getting richer and the poorer are getting to the stage where they cant even afford to eat.

And you think that the Labour party will not do the same now, they are nothing like the Labour before the days of Neil Kinnock, they are just another 100% Capitalist party, and Capitalism is no good for the working class.

Who do you think you will see on the streets working for the working class now that the Elections are done with till the next one, you will not see the Torys or the Lib/Dems not even the Labour party none off these you will not see the Greens, BNP, UKIP or even the First out on the streets.
It will be only the Socialist Party out there listen to people and helping them doing stalls ect, and yet all the good work they do others take the credit for.
The Socialist Party use to be part of the Labour Party till Kinnoch got them removed the part that first got the Labour party started when it was just a Railway Union and the Socialist Party the back bone of the party, the group that use to keep the Labour Party intouch with the people and letting the MP's and Councillors know what the ordinary people were thinking and saying so there policy was all ways in touch with the people, but with the removal of the Socialist Party from the Labour Party put Labour out off touch just like the Torys.

Well, more importantly from all this trash.....The great Adam Yauch (MCA from the Beastie boys) died today aged 47 ...R.I.P Adam :(

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=Ldu90ByLb
yI&feature=related

Egg throwing is childish and pathetic. Labour took control of Southampton through democratic elections. If the egg thrower is unhappy with that, s/he should be throwing eggs at the people who didn't bother to vote. And the Police should be arresting the egg thrower before charging her/him with common assault. And no, I am not a Labour supporter.

Yea so I heard Soul Cancer I belive rip Yauch

southy wrote:

Stubs wrote:
The Torries will bleed us dry if we dont act now. The rich are getting richer and the poorer are getting to the stage where they cant even afford to eat.

And you think that the Labour party will not do the same now, they are nothing like the Labour before the days of Neil Kinnock, they are just another 100% Capitalist party, and Capitalism is no good for the working class.

Who do you think you will see on the streets working for the working class now that the Elections are done with till the next one, you will not see the Torys or the Lib/Dems not even the Labour party none off these you will not see the Greens, BNP, UKIP or even the First out on the streets.
It will be only the Socialist Party out there listen to people and helping them doing stalls ect, and yet all the good work they do others take the credit for.
The Socialist Party use to be part of the Labour Party till Kinnoch got them removed the part that first got the Labour party started when it was just a Railway Union and the Socialist Party the back bone of the party, the group that use to keep the Labour Party intouch with the people and letting the MP's and Councillors know what the ordinary people were thinking and saying so there policy was all ways in touch with the people, but with the removal of the Socialist Party from the Labour Party put Labour out off touch just like the Torys.

I am hoping that local politics doesn't mirror the New Labour ethic, more down to earth.

Huffter wrote:
I would suggest he is rather less concerned with the egg than with the fact that 70% of Southampton voters can't even make the effort to turn out to vote for anybody.

Ah A HE HO LOVERLY EMA GOOD DOSH,30 Students in one of my Houses turnover 5 grand a month!Just loving it.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Maine Lobster wrote:

Huffter wrote:
I would suggest he is rather less concerned with the egg than with the fact that 70% of Southampton voters can't even make the effort to turn out to vote for anybody.

Its the same every year regardless of who wins. Young people are largely turned off by politics and that is why the Tories tried to brine the oap vote with Council tax discounts. Didn't work though!

You are probably right, but to be honest, most youngsters have absolutely no interest in politics, they are not brought up to be interested. We have been let down by Government after Government of all Political persuasions, nothing is going enthuse our youngsters to stand up and make a difference.
The exception will be a few idiotic fanatics with one track minds, whose only weapon would be some form of Civil disobedience.

Its true they don't and your Right wing political partys want it that way, they do not want to many voting because people will change on mass when its voting time.

fuckthepolice wrote:
HaHa Should of thrown a bike at him. **** the Government, lying **** the lot of em

Do you feel better now?

southy wrote:
What difference is there between Tory and Labour very little if you vote Tory you might as well vote Labour, or if you vote Labour you might as well vote Tory.
Labour true colour is Blue not Red using red is an insult to the working class.

Stop sucking lemons southy, they make you bitter.

southy wrote:
Yea so I heard Soul Cancer I belive rip Yauch

Southy, you old daaawg,

He was a great inspiration fo sho & 47 is far to young to die.:(

southy wrote:
Labour record speaks for it self, when the Tory made cuts Labour voted for the cuts also, Labour Councillors and MP's crossing picket lines, and only got interested when it was getting close to the elections, only 3 Councillors refuse to cross the picket lines.
And what was it Milliband said "We want good Capitalism" and also said "We need reposable Capitalism"
Capitalism is no good for the working class only good for the few.

If you can tell me of a non-capitalist country that is successful and where the the population have a free vote. If you can, and it has proved to provide better conditions for the working classes, then I would not be the only one that would opt for that system.

What you appear to forget is that it was your dedicated Socialists, a hundred years ago, that fought for the improvements that you see in working conditions and workers rights that you now enjoy.

With each gain, so the political landscape changes. It is only the political dinosaurs that want to keep on fighting the same old battles that have been fought and won, which is why they only get a sympathy vote, not a winning won.

I have a lot of sympathy with some of your views southy, but I do wish that you would look to the future instead of refusing to catch up with the 21st century.

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

A Knob who supports a Yob.

southy wrote:
Yea so I heard Soul Cancer I belive rip Yauch

Had been battling Throat Cancer since 2009 but cause of death was still unknown the last I heard. Shame. RIP.

freemantlegirl2 wrote:

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

Just because that's your opinion it doesn't meant to say it's the opinion of others. Royston Smith has been the undoing of the Tories in Southampton. Southampton city council aren't running the country your true blue friends are (at the moment!).... RBS has just repaid the loans from the government and quite a tidy sum. We are nowhere Greece and never have been - that's a load of nonsense!

Southy, enough now you're getting VERY boring and a sore loser.... the election is over - get over it.

Egg wasn't 'thrown' it was on his shoulder... sad person who feels they have to claim their five minutes of fame to do that!

I don't think the culprit was caught, do you think he would be brave or stupid to claim that he did it?

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

southy wrote:
Yea so I heard Soul Cancer I belive rip Yauch

Had been battling Throat Cancer since 2009 but cause of death was still unknown the last I heard. Shame. RIP.

Ospreysaint sir,

A big shame....the best of white hip hop...takes me back to the Top Rank days :D

So many good albums (To the five boroughs was awesome, check out "Open letter to New york) & I still got my vinyl too that I have been listening too , getting blazed & reminiscing :D

I am so disgusted that anyone could do this to a poor egg.

I feel sickened that I have been within 2 miles of Miliband, the poor egg suffered a distance of millimetres.

I didn't read a Tory egged Milliband?
I oppose this as I've opposed the foul rhetoric thrown at Royston by Labour supporters.
the guy nearly ousted Denham yet you all slate him?
As a Tory I feel the local parties loss will be the National parties gain.
Mervyn King has said there are definite signs of recovery & will come over the near future ( 1-2years) so with Local Labour hammering us & the Government making good it's promises will this be a short lived party by Labour?

loosehead wrote:
I didn't read a Tory egged Milliband?
I oppose this as I've opposed the foul rhetoric thrown at Royston by Labour supporters.
the guy nearly ousted Denham yet you all slate him?
As a Tory I feel the local parties loss will be the National parties gain.
Mervyn King has said there are definite signs of recovery & will come over the near future ( 1-2years) so with Local Labour hammering us & the Government making good it's promises will this be a short lived party by Labour?

Royston Smith is a decent man who wants prosperity for the city. This terrifies the left. They want poverty and misery as it justifies their ideals. The lemmings of southampton voted for poverty and misery. Also can you imagine a labour councillor acting the way Royston did on the Submarine !? I am trying hard to imagine it,,, but just can not quite get there....

Bet it was a Union supporter fed up they got no votes and no support from the two-faced red-ed.

MGRA wrote:

loosehead wrote:
I didn't read a Tory egged Milliband?
I oppose this as I've opposed the foul rhetoric thrown at Royston by Labour supporters.
the guy nearly ousted Denham yet you all slate him?
As a Tory I feel the local parties loss will be the National parties gain.
Mervyn King has said there are definite signs of recovery & will come over the near future ( 1-2years) so with Local Labour hammering us & the Government making good it's promises will this be a short lived party by Labour?

Royston Smith is a decent man who wants prosperity for the city. This terrifies the left. They want poverty and misery as it justifies their ideals. The lemmings of southampton voted for poverty and misery. Also can you imagine a labour councillor acting the way Royston did on the Submarine !? I am trying hard to imagine it,,, but just can not quite get there....

MGRA if your talking about Labour being Left you need to learn what is left and what is right, Labour is just another right wing political party and no different from right wing Tory Party.
Any body that votes for left in the Labour party is removed and kick out of the party.

freemantlegirl2 wrote:

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

Just because that's your opinion it doesn't meant to say it's the opinion of others. Royston Smith has been the undoing of the Tories in Southampton. Southampton city council aren't running the country your true blue friends are (at the moment!).... RBS has just repaid the loans from the government and quite a tidy sum. We are nowhere Greece and never have been - that's a load of nonsense!

Southy, enough now you're getting VERY boring and a sore loser.... the election is over - get over it.

Egg wasn't 'thrown' it was on his shoulder... sad person who feels they have to claim their five minutes of fame to do that!

Southy is the only only one who knew who "MCA" was, so respect to him.......B.E.A.S.T.
I.E.S :)

southy wrote:

MGRA wrote:

loosehead wrote:
I didn't read a Tory egged Milliband?
I oppose this as I've opposed the foul rhetoric thrown at Royston by Labour supporters.
the guy nearly ousted Denham yet you all slate him?
As a Tory I feel the local parties loss will be the National parties gain.
Mervyn King has said there are definite signs of recovery & will come over the near future ( 1-2years) so with Local Labour hammering us & the Government making good it's promises will this be a short lived party by Labour?

Royston Smith is a decent man who wants prosperity for the city. This terrifies the left. They want poverty and misery as it justifies their ideals. The lemmings of southampton voted for poverty and misery. Also can you imagine a labour councillor acting the way Royston did on the Submarine !? I am trying hard to imagine it,,, but just can not quite get there....

MGRA if your talking about Labour being Left you need to learn what is left and what is right, Labour is just another right wing political party and no different from right wing Tory Party.
Any body that votes for left in the Labour party is removed and kick out of the party.

southy,,, try leaving labels like "left" and "right" behind.. and pick up new one like "affordability" and "realistic"..... these are the key words of this decade,,, left and right are obsolete my friend.

Portswoodfoke wrote:
Bet it was a Union supporter fed up they got no votes and no support from the two-faced red-ed.

Milliband as all ready told the nation what he stands for with comment like "we need good capitalism" and "we need reposable capitalism" there is no real Socialist in the Labour party, and its a bit of false propaganda Labour using Red as there colour Purple is more there colour now.

MGRA wrote:

southy wrote:

MGRA wrote:

loosehead wrote:
I didn't read a Tory egged Milliband?
I oppose this as I've opposed the foul rhetoric thrown at Royston by Labour supporters.
the guy nearly ousted Denham yet you all slate him?
As a Tory I feel the local parties loss will be the National parties gain.
Mervyn King has said there are definite signs of recovery & will come over the near future ( 1-2years) so with Local Labour hammering us & the Government making good it's promises will this be a short lived party by Labour?

Royston Smith is a decent man who wants prosperity for the city. This terrifies the left. They want poverty and misery as it justifies their ideals. The lemmings of southampton voted for poverty and misery. Also can you imagine a labour councillor acting the way Royston did on the Submarine !? I am trying hard to imagine it,,, but just can not quite get there....

MGRA if your talking about Labour being Left you need to learn what is left and what is right, Labour is just another right wing political party and no different from right wing Tory Party.
Any body that votes for left in the Labour party is removed and kick out of the party.

southy,,, try leaving labels like "left" and "right" behind.. and pick up new one like "affordability" and "realistic"..... these are the key words of this decade,,, left and right are obsolete my friend.

No they are not Left stands for Socialism and Red is it colour, (the CWI kick out the Labour party from membership when they started to remove left wing members only political partys that have left wing members and policy are allowed to be members to the CWI).
Right stands for Capitalism and Blue is its colour.
Both Socialism and Capoitalism are Economic and Political systems.

southy wrote:

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

Both Tory and Labour in the last 32 years put this country in the mess it is in today.

GUTLESS , SCARED VOTE MUPPET S ... NOT 1 PARTY , will say and do what we vote them in to do . MONSTER RAVING LOONY had more BOTTLE

southy wrote:

MGRA wrote:

southy wrote:

MGRA wrote:

loosehead wrote:
I didn't read a Tory egged Milliband?
I oppose this as I've opposed the foul rhetoric thrown at Royston by Labour supporters.
the guy nearly ousted Denham yet you all slate him?
As a Tory I feel the local parties loss will be the National parties gain.
Mervyn King has said there are definite signs of recovery & will come over the near future ( 1-2years) so with Local Labour hammering us & the Government making good it's promises will this be a short lived party by Labour?

Royston Smith is a decent man who wants prosperity for the city. This terrifies the left. They want poverty and misery as it justifies their ideals. The lemmings of southampton voted for poverty and misery. Also can you imagine a labour councillor acting the way Royston did on the Submarine !? I am trying hard to imagine it,,, but just can not quite get there....

MGRA if your talking about Labour being Left you need to learn what is left and what is right, Labour is just another right wing political party and no different from right wing Tory Party.
Any body that votes for left in the Labour party is removed and kick out of the party.

southy,,, try leaving labels like "left" and "right" behind.. and pick up new one like "affordability" and "realistic"..... these are the key words of this decade,,, left and right are obsolete my friend.

No they are not Left stands for Socialism and Red is it colour, (the CWI kick out the Labour party from membership when they started to remove left wing members only political partys that have left wing members and policy are allowed to be members to the CWI).
Right stands for Capitalism and Blue is its colour.
Both Socialism and Capoitalism are Economic and Political systems.

what difference the system if neither can be afforded !? there is NO money southy...

Huffter wrote:

ottostrasser wrote: For goodness sake get your facts right !!! There is NO no.8 bus anymore !

Talking about getting facts right - had you not noticed the number 8 bus runs from Southampton to Hedge End via Bitterne and West End?

No, no, I am sorry but the number 8 runs via Marchwood and goes to Hythe. Its a blue one. Oops, bit political there!! Still, probably a great deal more interesting than Ed Milliband.... Is there a single person (including the whole Labour party) who thinks he would make PM?

Huffter wrote:

ottostrasser wrote: For goodness sake get your facts right !!! There is NO no.8 bus anymore !

Talking about getting facts right - had you not noticed the number 8 bus runs from Southampton to Hedge End via Bitterne and West End?

No, no, I am sorry but the number 8 runs via Marchwood and goes to Hythe. Its a blue one. Oops, bit political there!! Still, probably a great deal more interesting than Ed Milliband.... Is there a single person (including the whole Labour party) who thinks he would make PM?

Huffter wrote:

ottostrasser wrote: For goodness sake get your facts right !!! There is NO no.8 bus anymore !

Talking about getting facts right - had you not noticed the number 8 bus runs from Southampton to Hedge End via Bitterne and West End?

No, no, I am sorry but the number 8 runs via Marchwood and goes to Hythe. Its a blue one. Oops, bit political there!! Still, probably a great deal more interesting than Ed Milliband.... Is there a single person (including the whole Labour party) who thinks he would make PM?

MGRA wrote:

southy wrote:

MGRA wrote:

southy wrote:

MGRA wrote:

loosehead wrote:
I didn't read a Tory egged Milliband?
I oppose this as I've opposed the foul rhetoric thrown at Royston by Labour supporters.
the guy nearly ousted Denham yet you all slate him?
As a Tory I feel the local parties loss will be the National parties gain.
Mervyn King has said there are definite signs of recovery & will come over the near future ( 1-2years) so with Local Labour hammering us & the Government making good it's promises will this be a short lived party by Labour?

Royston Smith is a decent man who wants prosperity for the city. This terrifies the left. They want poverty and misery as it justifies their ideals. The lemmings of southampton voted for poverty and misery. Also can you imagine a labour councillor acting the way Royston did on the Submarine !? I am trying hard to imagine it,,, but just can not quite get there....

MGRA if your talking about Labour being Left you need to learn what is left and what is right, Labour is just another right wing political party and no different from right wing Tory Party.
Any body that votes for left in the Labour party is removed and kick out of the party.

southy,,, try leaving labels like "left" and "right" behind.. and pick up new one like "affordability" and "realistic"..... these are the key words of this decade,,, left and right are obsolete my friend.

No they are not Left stands for Socialism and Red is it colour, (the CWI kick out the Labour party from membership when they started to remove left wing members only political partys that have left wing members and policy are allowed to be members to the CWI).
Right stands for Capitalism and Blue is its colour.
Both Socialism and Capoitalism are Economic and Political systems.

what difference the system if neither can be afforded !? there is NO money southy...

There is money, theres all that tax avoidance that the super rich get away with like between 2010-11 there was £180 billion in tax avoidance and this as been going on since Thatcher deregulated the finance world, theres is £120 billion just laying idol in banks by the investment companys.
All it would take is get a true Socialist into power and remove the neo-nationalism and neo-liberalism policy and bring back the keynesian policy, this country was doing very well up to 1979 when we was using keynesian policy, our national debt was being cleared and being paid up, but since thatcher change it the debt has been growing.

Labour swept back to power in Southampton in a stunning election victory today.

Labour gained 11 seats taking a majority control of the council for first time in more than a decade.

As the final declaration came in just after 2am, Labour councillors and supporters gathered to chant out their new number of elected members - 30.

The result decides who will run the city council for the next two years, as there are no elections next year.

J.P.M wrote:
Labour swept back to power in Southampton in a stunning election victory today.

Labour gained 11 seats taking a majority control of the council for first time in more than a decade.

As the final declaration came in just after 2am, Labour councillors and supporters gathered to chant out their new number of elected members - 30.

The result decides who will run the city council for the next two years, as there are no elections next year.

It going to be longer than 2 years it be 3 years Labour could lose enough seats to lose control, and in 4 years they could be wipe out. that will all depend on the Torys if they get rid off Royston and get him replace.

When will Labours cuts start in order for the council staff to get their wages back?

I don't agree with Ed's policies but attacking him is wrong and I must say he dealt with it well.
What was wrong was the way Labour/Union went on strike for political reasons. The Tories tried to run the council with care for all.
I believe time will show this to be proven true.

southy wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote:

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

Just because that's your opinion it doesn't meant to say it's the opinion of others. Royston Smith has been the undoing of the Tories in Southampton. Southampton city council aren't running the country your true blue friends are (at the moment!).... RBS has just repaid the loans from the government and quite a tidy sum. We are nowhere Greece and never have been - that's a load of nonsense!

Southy, enough now you're getting VERY boring and a sore loser.... the election is over - get over it.

Egg wasn't 'thrown' it was on his shoulder... sad person who feels they have to claim their five minutes of fame to do that!

the thing is FM2 there is no difference between the major 3 partys they have all the same policy, and it will tell once again when Labour start to make cuts the Torys will vote with them, We needed some one in the council who would put up a fight for the working class.

The fact that there is very little between the three main party's must tell you something ? Let me give you a little clue... it's all about economics and having to strike a financial balance and although you believe passionately that Socialism is the way forward just look at the state of Greece and Spain and the mess that they are in .... both under Socialist rule ! The reason why people won't elect your party into power is because it doesnt work anymore, and yes you gain votes (well done) but so did screaming lord such when there was a recession going on. You will always get a handful of people that will always vote and will vote for a lesser party rather than spoil the paper or not vote at all.

Your ideals of taxing the rich even higher will just force them to take their businesses elsewhere ! Unless the whole world unites then this will always be an option.

I also thought that were now now a classless society.... so who are the "working class" ;o)

Williams said the public were fed up with a year of strikes & rubbish not being collected?
It was his parties paymasters who orchestrated those strikes on behalf of the Labour Party with the sole intention of getting Labour elected.
So for him to say that's why his party were elected was a recognition to the unions in the great blackmail that's taken place in this city.
The amount who turn up to vote are the electorate of the day yet Labour have questioned the validity of the Government & the old council on the percentage of the electorate who bothered voting unlike them I will accept the suckers vote but can't wait to see their reactions when Labour starts to implement it's real agenda.
Under the Tories tax dodgers have been cut under the previous Labour council we the payers were expected to pay more to cover the non payment by tax cheats will this Labour council chase them & make them pay?

loosehead wrote:
I didn't read a Tory egged Milliband?
I oppose this as I've opposed the foul rhetoric thrown at Royston by Labour supporters.
the guy nearly ousted Denham yet you all slate him?
As a Tory I feel the local parties loss will be the National parties gain.
Mervyn King has said there are definite signs of recovery & will come over the near future ( 1-2years) so with Local Labour hammering us & the Government making good it's promises will this be a short lived party by Labour?

He also said that he was partially to blame for the banking crisis, which means that it was not all Brown's fault.

If you are going to quote Mervyn King, then don't just pick out the bits that suit you.

MGRA wrote:

loosehead wrote:
I didn't read a Tory egged Milliband?
I oppose this as I've opposed the foul rhetoric thrown at Royston by Labour supporters.
the guy nearly ousted Denham yet you all slate him?
As a Tory I feel the local parties loss will be the National parties gain.
Mervyn King has said there are definite signs of recovery & will come over the near future ( 1-2years) so with Local Labour hammering us & the Government making good it's promises will this be a short lived party by Labour?

Royston Smith is a decent man who wants prosperity for the city. This terrifies the left. They want poverty and misery as it justifies their ideals. The lemmings of southampton voted for poverty and misery. Also can you imagine a labour councillor acting the way Royston did on the Submarine !? I am trying hard to imagine it,,, but just can not quite get there....

"Royston Smith is a decent man who wants prosperity for the city."

Prosperity for the city means people in work, earning a wage and spending it in the city. Royston's actions has seen a lot of people put out of work, and Cameron's actions has seen many in the private sector losing their jobs in this area.

That is what terrifies the left.

"They (The Left) want poverty and misery as it justifies their ideals."

Poverty and misery is what Royston Smith has delivered locally, and what Cameron&Co is delivering nationally, which is why there are now so many former Tory councillors find that they were voted out.

"Also can youimagine a labour councillor acting the way Royston did on the Submarine!?"

Do you honestly believe that he trained for that event? Don't you think that it was an instinctive act of self-preservation? I am not decrying him for what he did, in fact I am full of praise, but that was as instinctive an act as when John Prescott reacted to the Norfolk farmer's attack.

"I am trying hard to imagine it,,,but just can not quite get there...."

Always nice to hear what you do in your spare time, and explains why you come up with such hilarious posts.

IanRRR wrote:

Huffter wrote:

ottostrasser wrote: For goodness sake get your facts right !!! There is NO no.8 bus anymore !

Talking about getting facts right - had you not noticed the number 8 bus runs from Southampton to Hedge End via Bitterne and West End?

No, no, I am sorry but the number 8 runs via Marchwood and goes to Hythe. Its a blue one. Oops, bit political there!! Still, probably a great deal more interesting than Ed Milliband.... Is there a single person (including the whole Labour party) who thinks he would make PM?

If Cameron can make it, ANYONE can.

cyber_fug wrote:

southy wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote:

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

Just because that's your opinion it doesn't meant to say it's the opinion of others. Royston Smith has been the undoing of the Tories in Southampton. Southampton city council aren't running the country your true blue friends are (at the moment!).... RBS has just repaid the loans from the government and quite a tidy sum. We are nowhere Greece and never have been - that's a load of nonsense!

Southy, enough now you're getting VERY boring and a sore loser.... the election is over - get over it.

Egg wasn't 'thrown' it was on his shoulder... sad person who feels they have to claim their five minutes of fame to do that!

the thing is FM2 there is no difference between the major 3 partys they have all the same policy, and it will tell once again when Labour start to make cuts the Torys will vote with them, We needed some one in the council who would put up a fight for the working class.

The fact that there is very little between the three main party's must tell you something ? Let me give you a little clue... it's all about economics and having to strike a financial balance and although you believe passionately that Socialism is the way forward just look at the state of Greece and Spain and the mess that they are in .... both under Socialist rule ! The reason why people won't elect your party into power is because it doesnt work anymore, and yes you gain votes (well done) but so did screaming lord such when there was a recession going on. You will always get a handful of people that will always vote and will vote for a lesser party rather than spoil the paper or not vote at all.

Your ideals of taxing the rich even higher will just force them to take their businesses elsewhere ! Unless the whole world unites then this will always be an option.

I also thought that were now now a classless society.... so who are the "working class" ;o)

Let me point out to you both Greece and Spain have Capitalist political partys in power.
And let also tell you why they are all very much the same its as nothing to do with finding a balance, its because for the last 25 years people have been train into thinking one way, and not looking for the right answers.
How can you say it do not work any more, first off all to be able to say that its got to tryed out and Socialism Economics as never been tired 100% at any time and no where in the world, the best it ever been was 45% Socialism and 55% capitalism and just having that 45% proved to be 10 times better than 100% Capitalism.
You though we was a classless society that is some thing we have never been, that is just false right wing propaganda

aldermoorboy wrote:
I don't agree with Ed's policies but attacking him is wrong and I must say he dealt with it well.
What was wrong was the way Labour/Union went on strike for political reasons. The Tories tried to run the council with care for all.
I believe time will show this to be proven true.

One way to guarantee the sympathy vote is to attack an opponent that cannot fight back, stupid, cowardly and about as low as you can get, probably a Liberal....

southy wrote:

cyber_fug wrote:

southy wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote:

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

Just because that's your opinion it doesn't meant to say it's the opinion of others. Royston Smith has been the undoing of the Tories in Southampton. Southampton city council aren't running the country your true blue friends are (at the moment!).... RBS has just repaid the loans from the government and quite a tidy sum. We are nowhere Greece and never have been - that's a load of nonsense!

Southy, enough now you're getting VERY boring and a sore loser.... the election is over - get over it.

Egg wasn't 'thrown' it was on his shoulder... sad person who feels they have to claim their five minutes of fame to do that!

the thing is FM2 there is no difference between the major 3 partys they have all the same policy, and it will tell once again when Labour start to make cuts the Torys will vote with them, We needed some one in the council who would put up a fight for the working class.

The fact that there is very little between the three main party's must tell you something ? Let me give you a little clue... it's all about economics and having to strike a financial balance and although you believe passionately that Socialism is the way forward just look at the state of Greece and Spain and the mess that they are in .... both under Socialist rule ! The reason why people won't elect your party into power is because it doesnt work anymore, and yes you gain votes (well done) but so did screaming lord such when there was a recession going on. You will always get a handful of people that will always vote and will vote for a lesser party rather than spoil the paper or not vote at all.

Your ideals of taxing the rich even higher will just force them to take their businesses elsewhere ! Unless the whole world unites then this will always be an option.

I also thought that were now now a classless society.... so who are the "working class" ;o)

Let me point out to you both Greece and Spain have Capitalist political partys in power.
And let also tell you why they are all very much the same its as nothing to do with finding a balance, its because for the last 25 years people have been train into thinking one way, and not looking for the right answers.
How can you say it do not work any more, first off all to be able to say that its got to tryed out and Socialism Economics as never been tired 100% at any time and no where in the world, the best it ever been was 45% Socialism and 55% capitalism and just having that 45% proved to be 10 times better than 100% Capitalism.
You though we was a classless society that is some thing we have never been, that is just false right wing propaganda

The Greek President is Korolos Papoulis who is a member of the Panhellenic Socialist Party, the interim government also has the majority of elected assembly from the Panhellenic Socialist Party. The Spanish government was recently changed from the Social Government to the Peoples Party in order to put right what the socialist had destroyed.

The Panhellenic Socialist Party is not a true Socialist group they are a liberal/Capitalist party bit like what the Labour Party is today, The Socialist in greece are the Socialist Party and are a member to the CWI.
Again in Spain the Socialist are a CWI member, There last government where Capitialist and not Socialist.
Have a word with Gavin Marsh (TUSC) who was over there at the time before the government change hands, and the demos and rallys are still going on over there.
Just because you see the word Socialist in the name do not mean there are Socialist, A lot of the time the word is use to give a false impression

southy wrote:

cyber_fug wrote:

southy wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote:

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

Just because that's your opinion it doesn't meant to say it's the opinion of others. Royston Smith has been the undoing of the Tories in Southampton. Southampton city council aren't running the country your true blue friends are (at the moment!).... RBS has just repaid the loans from the government and quite a tidy sum. We are nowhere Greece and never have been - that's a load of nonsense!

Southy, enough now you're getting VERY boring and a sore loser.... the election is over - get over it.

Egg wasn't 'thrown' it was on his shoulder... sad person who feels they have to claim their five minutes of fame to do that!

the thing is FM2 there is no difference between the major 3 partys they have all the same policy, and it will tell once again when Labour start to make cuts the Torys will vote with them, We needed some one in the council who would put up a fight for the working class.

The fact that there is very little between the three main party's must tell you something ? Let me give you a little clue... it's all about economics and having to strike a financial balance and although you believe passionately that Socialism is the way forward just look at the state of Greece and Spain and the mess that they are in .... both under Socialist rule ! The reason why people won't elect your party into power is because it doesnt work anymore, and yes you gain votes (well done) but so did screaming lord such when there was a recession going on. You will always get a handful of people that will always vote and will vote for a lesser party rather than spoil the paper or not vote at all.

Your ideals of taxing the rich even higher will just force them to take their businesses elsewhere ! Unless the whole world unites then this will always be an option.

I also thought that were now now a classless society.... so who are the "working class" ;o)

Let me point out to you both Greece and Spain have Capitalist political partys in power.
And let also tell you why they are all very much the same its as nothing to do with finding a balance, its because for the last 25 years people have been train into thinking one way, and not looking for the right answers.
How can you say it do not work any more, first off all to be able to say that its got to tryed out and Socialism Economics as never been tired 100% at any time and no where in the world, the best it ever been was 45% Socialism and 55% capitalism and just having that 45% proved to be 10 times better than 100% Capitalism.
You though we was a classless society that is some thing we have never been, that is just false right wing propaganda

Can you name a country that is run by a Socialist government that you would support?

I don't know of one.

If it were the 'Heaven on Earth' that you appear to think that it would be, why is it not taking place in every country?

No doubt you will come back with the regular spiel about 'Capitalists and Bankers' but there were those people before the Russian Revolution, the French Revolution, China etc etc

Nobody works for nothing. They want to be paid, whether in cash or kind (bartering). That is capitalism.

So, come on Southy. Enough of the criticism, tell me where this Utopia is. Where everyone is equal (except that they are not because there are always workers and skivers. Savers and spendthrifts.)

southy wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote:

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

Just because that's your opinion it doesn't meant to say it's the opinion of others. Royston Smith has been the undoing of the Tories in Southampton. Southampton city council aren't running the country your true blue friends are (at the moment!).... RBS has just repaid the loans from the government and quite a tidy sum. We are nowhere Greece and never have been - that's a load of nonsense!

Southy, enough now you're getting VERY boring and a sore loser.... the election is over - get over it.

Egg wasn't 'thrown' it was on his shoulder... sad person who feels they have to claim their five minutes of fame to do that!

the thing is FM2 there is no difference between the major 3 partys they have all the same policy, and it will tell once again when Labour start to make cuts the Torys will vote with them, We needed some one in the council who would put up a fight for the working class.

Southy please stop lecturing everybody. It's incredibly patronising. You think you're the only person who knows anything about politics? Give it a rest.

Linesman wrote:

southy wrote:

cyber_fug wrote:

southy wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote:

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

Just because that's your opinion it doesn't meant to say it's the opinion of others. Royston Smith has been the undoing of the Tories in Southampton. Southampton city council aren't running the country your true blue friends are (at the moment!).... RBS has just repaid the loans from the government and quite a tidy sum. We are nowhere Greece and never have been - that's a load of nonsense!

Southy, enough now you're getting VERY boring and a sore loser.... the election is over - get over it.

Egg wasn't 'thrown' it was on his shoulder... sad person who feels they have to claim their five minutes of fame to do that!

the thing is FM2 there is no difference between the major 3 partys they have all the same policy, and it will tell once again when Labour start to make cuts the Torys will vote with them, We needed some one in the council who would put up a fight for the working class.

The fact that there is very little between the three main party's must tell you something ? Let me give you a little clue... it's all about economics and having to strike a financial balance and although you believe passionately that Socialism is the way forward just look at the state of Greece and Spain and the mess that they are in .... both under Socialist rule ! The reason why people won't elect your party into power is because it doesnt work anymore, and yes you gain votes (well done) but so did screaming lord such when there was a recession going on. You will always get a handful of people that will always vote and will vote for a lesser party rather than spoil the paper or not vote at all.

Your ideals of taxing the rich even higher will just force them to take their businesses elsewhere ! Unless the whole world unites then this will always be an option.

I also thought that were now now a classless society.... so who are the "working class" ;o)

Let me point out to you both Greece and Spain have Capitalist political partys in power.
And let also tell you why they are all very much the same its as nothing to do with finding a balance, its because for the last 25 years people have been train into thinking one way, and not looking for the right answers.
How can you say it do not work any more, first off all to be able to say that its got to tryed out and Socialism Economics as never been tired 100% at any time and no where in the world, the best it ever been was 45% Socialism and 55% capitalism and just having that 45% proved to be 10 times better than 100% Capitalism.
You though we was a classless society that is some thing we have never been, that is just false right wing propaganda

Can you name a country that is run by a Socialist government that you would support?

I don't know of one.

If it were the 'Heaven on Earth' that you appear to think that it would be, why is it not taking place in every country?

No doubt you will come back with the regular spiel about 'Capitalists and Bankers' but there were those people before the Russian Revolution, the French Revolution, China etc etc

Nobody works for nothing. They want to be paid, whether in cash or kind (bartering). That is capitalism.

So, come on Southy. Enough of the criticism, tell me where this Utopia is. Where everyone is equal (except that they are not because there are always workers and skivers. Savers and spendthrifts.)

come on lines you should know better, Capitalism and Socialism are both Economic and political systems, one works on Greed for one self Capitalism and the other works on sharing Socialism.
The closes any country came to Socialism was Russia but it was only a few years Russia between 1917 to 1923 Lenin work was never finished off, it was destroied before it was compleated by Stalin who was a provinicalist (Capitalist).

Georgem wrote:

southy wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote:

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

Just because that's your opinion it doesn't meant to say it's the opinion of others. Royston Smith has been the undoing of the Tories in Southampton. Southampton city council aren't running the country your true blue friends are (at the moment!).... RBS has just repaid the loans from the government and quite a tidy sum. We are nowhere Greece and never have been - that's a load of nonsense!

Southy, enough now you're getting VERY boring and a sore loser.... the election is over - get over it.

Egg wasn't 'thrown' it was on his shoulder... sad person who feels they have to claim their five minutes of fame to do that!

the thing is FM2 there is no difference between the major 3 partys they have all the same policy, and it will tell once again when Labour start to make cuts the Torys will vote with them, We needed some one in the council who would put up a fight for the working class.

Southy please stop lecturing everybody. It's incredibly patronising. You think you're the only person who knows anything about politics? Give it a rest.

Georgem your on a political topic if you can not stand the heat then don't jump into the flame you get burned.

southy wrote:

Linesman wrote:

southy wrote:

cyber_fug wrote:

southy wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote:

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

Just because that's your opinion it doesn't meant to say it's the opinion of others. Royston Smith has been the undoing of the Tories in Southampton. Southampton city council aren't running the country your true blue friends are (at the moment!).... RBS has just repaid the loans from the government and quite a tidy sum. We are nowhere Greece and never have been - that's a load of nonsense!

Southy, enough now you're getting VERY boring and a sore loser.... the election is over - get over it.

Egg wasn't 'thrown' it was on his shoulder... sad person who feels they have to claim their five minutes of fame to do that!

the thing is FM2 there is no difference between the major 3 partys they have all the same policy, and it will tell once again when Labour start to make cuts the Torys will vote with them, We needed some one in the council who would put up a fight for the working class.

The fact that there is very little between the three main party's must tell you something ? Let me give you a little clue... it's all about economics and having to strike a financial balance and although you believe passionately that Socialism is the way forward just look at the state of Greece and Spain and the mess that they are in .... both under Socialist rule ! The reason why people won't elect your party into power is because it doesnt work anymore, and yes you gain votes (well done) but so did screaming lord such when there was a recession going on. You will always get a handful of people that will always vote and will vote for a lesser party rather than spoil the paper or not vote at all.

Your ideals of taxing the rich even higher will just force them to take their businesses elsewhere ! Unless the whole world unites then this will always be an option.

I also thought that were now now a classless society.... so who are the "working class" ;o)

Let me point out to you both Greece and Spain have Capitalist political partys in power.
And let also tell you why they are all very much the same its as nothing to do with finding a balance, its because for the last 25 years people have been train into thinking one way, and not looking for the right answers.
How can you say it do not work any more, first off all to be able to say that its got to tryed out and Socialism Economics as never been tired 100% at any time and no where in the world, the best it ever been was 45% Socialism and 55% capitalism and just having that 45% proved to be 10 times better than 100% Capitalism.
You though we was a classless society that is some thing we have never been, that is just false right wing propaganda

Can you name a country that is run by a Socialist government that you would support?

I don't know of one.

If it were the 'Heaven on Earth' that you appear to think that it would be, why is it not taking place in every country?

No doubt you will come back with the regular spiel about 'Capitalists and Bankers' but there were those people before the Russian Revolution, the French Revolution, China etc etc

Nobody works for nothing. They want to be paid, whether in cash or kind (bartering). That is capitalism.

So, come on Southy. Enough of the criticism, tell me where this Utopia is. Where everyone is equal (except that they are not because there are always workers and skivers. Savers and spendthrifts.)

come on lines you should know better, Capitalism and Socialism are both Economic and political systems, one works on Greed for one self Capitalism and the other works on sharing Socialism.
The closes any country came to Socialism was Russia but it was only a few years Russia between 1917 to 1923 Lenin work was never finished off, it was destroied before it was compleated by Stalin who was a provinicalist (Capitalist).

Tell that to those who were sent to Siberia Southy.

Tell that to those who were either shot or locked up because they disagreed with the system..

How many democratic elections were held there between `1917 and 1923?

Was there a free press during that period?

Was there free travel.

Come in out of the rain Southy.

No system is perfect, but some are better than others and I would not swap ours for what they had then.

Look if I saw Milliband I would ask him what it was like to shaft his brother?
I wouldn't throw anything at him besides questions or ask him how Boris did in London?
The problem in Southampton has been the Echo has been used by the Unions & the Labour party to get over their lies & their point of view for some reason the Conservative party didn't well nows the time to change all that.
Labour in power is /will show the people the lies they have been spouting & we will point it out to the people & anything they do that makes the people worse of we will shout about it.
If they scrap the blueprint for the modernisation of this city we will ask why?
I'm not a member but I'm seriously thinking of signing up.
I believe we all have a brain & should use it & I will I won't follow blindly & vote what my Dad voted or what my family believe I should vote but what I feel is best for this city & country.Boris,Boris,
Boris ( just copying Labour)

loosehead wrote:
Look if I saw Milliband I would ask him what it was like to shaft his brother?
I wouldn't throw anything at him besides questions or ask him how Boris did in London?
The problem in Southampton has been the Echo has been used by the Unions & the Labour party to get over their lies & their point of view for some reason the Conservative party didn't well nows the time to change all that.
Labour in power is /will show the people the lies they have been spouting & we will point it out to the people & anything they do that makes the people worse of we will shout about it.
If they scrap the blueprint for the modernisation of this city we will ask why?
I'm not a member but I'm seriously thinking of signing up.
I believe we all have a brain & should use it & I will I won't follow blindly & vote what my Dad voted or what my family believe I should vote but what I feel is best for this city & country.Boris,Boris,

Boris ( just copying Labour)

Loosehead ...... accept defeat like a man and stop being stupid about it.
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As you are close to Moulton .. why not ask him why the Tories lost.
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The most dissapointing thing about the Southampton electionon, this forum, is how "some" of the Tory posters have shown such bitterness in spouting such bile to other posters.
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You lost ...... Get over it .......

Linesman wrote:

southy wrote:

Linesman wrote:

southy wrote:

cyber_fug wrote:

southy wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote:

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

Just because that's your opinion it doesn't meant to say it's the opinion of others. Royston Smith has been the undoing of the Tories in Southampton. Southampton city council aren't running the country your true blue friends are (at the moment!).... RBS has just repaid the loans from the government and quite a tidy sum. We are nowhere Greece and never have been - that's a load of nonsense!

Southy, enough now you're getting VERY boring and a sore loser.... the election is over - get over it.

Egg wasn't 'thrown' it was on his shoulder... sad person who feels they have to claim their five minutes of fame to do that!

the thing is FM2 there is no difference between the major 3 partys they have all the same policy, and it will tell once again when Labour start to make cuts the Torys will vote with them, We needed some one in the council who would put up a fight for the working class.

The fact that there is very little between the three main party's must tell you something ? Let me give you a little clue... it's all about economics and having to strike a financial balance and although you believe passionately that Socialism is the way forward just look at the state of Greece and Spain and the mess that they are in .... both under Socialist rule ! The reason why people won't elect your party into power is because it doesnt work anymore, and yes you gain votes (well done) but so did screaming lord such when there was a recession going on. You will always get a handful of people that will always vote and will vote for a lesser party rather than spoil the paper or not vote at all.

Your ideals of taxing the rich even higher will just force them to take their businesses elsewhere ! Unless the whole world unites then this will always be an option.

I also thought that were now now a classless society.... so who are the "working class" ;o)

Let me point out to you both Greece and Spain have Capitalist political partys in power.
And let also tell you why they are all very much the same its as nothing to do with finding a balance, its because for the last 25 years people have been train into thinking one way, and not looking for the right answers.
How can you say it do not work any more, first off all to be able to say that its got to tryed out and Socialism Economics as never been tired 100% at any time and no where in the world, the best it ever been was 45% Socialism and 55% capitalism and just having that 45% proved to be 10 times better than 100% Capitalism.
You though we was a classless society that is some thing we have never been, that is just false right wing propaganda

Can you name a country that is run by a Socialist government that you would support?

I don't know of one.

If it were the 'Heaven on Earth' that you appear to think that it would be, why is it not taking place in every country?

No doubt you will come back with the regular spiel about 'Capitalists and Bankers' but there were those people before the Russian Revolution, the French Revolution, China etc etc

Nobody works for nothing. They want to be paid, whether in cash or kind (bartering). That is capitalism.

So, come on Southy. Enough of the criticism, tell me where this Utopia is. Where everyone is equal (except that they are not because there are always workers and skivers. Savers and spendthrifts.)

come on lines you should know better, Capitalism and Socialism are both Economic and political systems, one works on Greed for one self Capitalism and the other works on sharing Socialism.
The closes any country came to Socialism was Russia but it was only a few years Russia between 1917 to 1923 Lenin work was never finished off, it was destroied before it was compleated by Stalin who was a provinicalist (Capitalist).

Tell that to those who were sent to Siberia Southy.

Tell that to those who were either shot or locked up because they disagreed with the system..

How many democratic elections were held there between `1917 and 1923?

Was there a free press during that period?

Was there free travel.

Come in out of the rain Southy.

No system is perfect, but some are better than others and I would not swap ours for what they had then.

Those that was sent to Siberia was sent there by Stalin and after. (Provincialist aka Capitalist)
Again that happen in Stalin and after wards (provincialist Capitalist) apart from the Royal Family who Lenin was trying to find a country who would take them, even Great Britian and the USA refuse to have them was under house arrest, the order to kill them points to Stalin.
there was democratic election in 1920 women got the vote also.
there was a free press during Lenin time but not after his death the press was crack down on in 1929.
As for travel being free where was there free traveling in any country in 1917 to 1923.
Your right there is no perfect system but when Socialist policy is implemented its a much better condiction for the majority to live under.
think about it, it was because of those that started to think like socialist did improvements happen for the majority aka working class.
Socialism is the way forward

loosehead wrote:
Look if I saw Milliband I would ask him what it was like to shaft his brother?
I wouldn't throw anything at him besides questions or ask him how Boris did in London?
The problem in Southampton has been the Echo has been used by the Unions & the Labour party to get over their lies & their point of view for some reason the Conservative party didn't well nows the time to change all that.
Labour in power is /will show the people the lies they have been spouting & we will point it out to the people & anything they do that makes the people worse of we will shout about it.
If they scrap the blueprint for the modernisation of this city we will ask why?
I'm not a member but I'm seriously thinking of signing up.
I believe we all have a brain & should use it & I will I won't follow blindly & vote what my Dad voted or what my family believe I should vote but what I feel is best for this city & country.Boris,Boris,

Boris ( just copying Labour)

That's about the sort of question that I would expect you to ask.

There are so many questions on local, national and international issues that you would be able to ask, and upon the answers you received, could possibly influence the way that you voted in the future.

Being a great intellectual and person known for their in-depth political thinking, all you could think of to ask is,

"What is it like to shaft your brother?"

I assume it is because he and not his brother is leader of the Labour Party that makes you want to ask the question.

I can save you the bother. There was an election, and Ed Milliband won.

Heaven only knows how Cameron came to be leader of the Tories.

southy wrote:

Linesman wrote:

southy wrote:

Linesman wrote:

southy wrote:

cyber_fug wrote:

southy wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote:

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

Just because that's your opinion it doesn't meant to say it's the opinion of others. Royston Smith has been the undoing of the Tories in Southampton. Southampton city council aren't running the country your true blue friends are (at the moment!).... RBS has just repaid the loans from the government and quite a tidy sum. We are nowhere Greece and never have been - that's a load of nonsense!

Southy, enough now you're getting VERY boring and a sore loser.... the election is over - get over it.

Egg wasn't 'thrown' it was on his shoulder... sad person who feels they have to claim their five minutes of fame to do that!

the thing is FM2 there is no difference between the major 3 partys they have all the same policy, and it will tell once again when Labour start to make cuts the Torys will vote with them, We needed some one in the council who would put up a fight for the working class.

The fact that there is very little between the three main party's must tell you something ? Let me give you a little clue... it's all about economics and having to strike a financial balance and although you believe passionately that Socialism is the way forward just look at the state of Greece and Spain and the mess that they are in .... both under Socialist rule ! The reason why people won't elect your party into power is because it doesnt work anymore, and yes you gain votes (well done) but so did screaming lord such when there was a recession going on. You will always get a handful of people that will always vote and will vote for a lesser party rather than spoil the paper or not vote at all.

Your ideals of taxing the rich even higher will just force them to take their businesses elsewhere ! Unless the whole world unites then this will always be an option.

I also thought that were now now a classless society.... so who are the "working class" ;o)

Let me point out to you both Greece and Spain have Capitalist political partys in power.
And let also tell you why they are all very much the same its as nothing to do with finding a balance, its because for the last 25 years people have been train into thinking one way, and not looking for the right answers.
How can you say it do not work any more, first off all to be able to say that its got to tryed out and Socialism Economics as never been tired 100% at any time and no where in the world, the best it ever been was 45% Socialism and 55% capitalism and just having that 45% proved to be 10 times better than 100% Capitalism.
You though we was a classless society that is some thing we have never been, that is just false right wing propaganda

Can you name a country that is run by a Socialist government that you would support?

I don't know of one.

If it were the 'Heaven on Earth' that you appear to think that it would be, why is it not taking place in every country?

No doubt you will come back with the regular spiel about 'Capitalists and Bankers' but there were those people before the Russian Revolution, the French Revolution, China etc etc

Nobody works for nothing. They want to be paid, whether in cash or kind (bartering). That is capitalism.

So, come on Southy. Enough of the criticism, tell me where this Utopia is. Where everyone is equal (except that they are not because there are always workers and skivers. Savers and spendthrifts.)

come on lines you should know better, Capitalism and Socialism are both Economic and political systems, one works on Greed for one self Capitalism and the other works on sharing Socialism.
The closes any country came to Socialism was Russia but it was only a few years Russia between 1917 to 1923 Lenin work was never finished off, it was destroied before it was compleated by Stalin who was a provinicalist (Capitalist).

Tell that to those who were sent to Siberia Southy.

Tell that to those who were either shot or locked up because they disagreed with the system..

How many democratic elections were held there between `1917 and 1923?

Was there a free press during that period?

Was there free travel.

Come in out of the rain Southy.

No system is perfect, but some are better than others and I would not swap ours for what they had then.

Those that was sent to Siberia was sent there by Stalin and after. (Provincialist aka Capitalist)
Again that happen in Stalin and after wards (provincialist Capitalist) apart from the Royal Family who Lenin was trying to find a country who would take them, even Great Britian and the USA refuse to have them was under house arrest, the order to kill them points to Stalin.
there was democratic election in 1920 women got the vote also.
there was a free press during Lenin time but not after his death the press was crack down on in 1929.
As for travel being free where was there free traveling in any country in 1917 to 1923.
Your right there is no perfect system but when Socialist policy is implemented its a much better condiction for the majority to live under.
think about it, it was because of those that started to think like socialist did improvements happen for the majority aka working class.
Socialism is the way forward

But you fail to understand that Socialism does not stand still.

It builds on the progress and the gains that it made.

For example, the NHS as it was set up by Nye Bevan has had to change and modernise, because it has had to adapt to technology and advances that have been made in surgery techniques, diagnosis, drugs etc etc.

How many people had a car when the NHS was formed, and how many have one now?

University education was once only available to the children of the rich, or ones funded by a charity or a patron. Until the recent grants were cut, it was available to all who had the ability.

As a local lad, I saw the old Queen Mary, Queen Elizabeth and the Castle Line ships leaving Southampton for places that I dreamed of visiting, but thought I never would. I had French lessons in school and thought it pointless because I would never be able to afford to go abroad. I wish I had paid attention, because foreign travel is now available to practically everyone. No longer is a week in Bournemouth considered the be-all and end-all.

Those Socialists that you dream of were the architects who laid the foundations of today's society and if we were able to speak with them, I have not the slightest doubt that they would be telling us to keep building on that foundation, and modernise as required.

I was brought up in a very happy home, but I would not like to re-live it.

I would not want to live in a house with single-glazing, an open fire, lino on the floor and a draught of gale-force strength coming under the doors. We would huddle round the fire with our fronts toasted and our backs as cold as ice.

We would listen to a wireless, with a choice of the Home Service or the Light Programme. With no electricity, only gas, it was powered by a battery and an accumulator, and a pound to a pinch of s**t, the battery would lose power, or the accumulator would need recharging when a special programme was about to start.

Those 'good old days' are the ones that the current days are built on. It is called progress. Progress that our Socialist forefathers wanted us to enjoy and build on.

Get a life Southy. Remember the past by all means, but don't think that it was all Milk and Honey, because it was not.

Linesman wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Look if I saw Milliband I would ask him what it was like to shaft his brother?
I wouldn't throw anything at him besides questions or ask him how Boris did in London?
The problem in Southampton has been the Echo has been used by the Unions & the Labour party to get over their lies & their point of view for some reason the Conservative party didn't well nows the time to change all that.
Labour in power is /will show the people the lies they have been spouting & we will point it out to the people & anything they do that makes the people worse of we will shout about it.
If they scrap the blueprint for the modernisation of this city we will ask why?
I'm not a member but I'm seriously thinking of signing up.
I believe we all have a brain & should use it & I will I won't follow blindly & vote what my Dad voted or what my family believe I should vote but what I feel is best for this city & country.Boris,Boris,


Boris ( just copying Labour)

That's about the sort of question that I would expect you to ask.

There are so many questions on local, national and international issues that you would be able to ask, and upon the answers you received, could possibly influence the way that you voted in the future.

Being a great intellectual and person known for their in-depth political thinking, all you could think of to ask is,

"What is it like to shaft your brother?"

I assume it is because he and not his brother is leader of the Labour Party that makes you want to ask the question.

I can save you the bother. There was an election, and Ed Milliband won.

Heaven only knows how Cameron came to be leader of the Tories.

Actually he lost the vote in the Labour Party but the Union saw him as a yes man & used their block vote to overthrow the wishes of the Labour Party.
Ed had never let it be known to his brother his ambitions so his brother thought he had his support so what was to follow was in my book shafting his brother or stabbing him in the back.
I could think of many other insults to throw at both the Millibands as with our two Labour MP's but no matter how much I hate/sorry dislike them I wouldn't throw eggs or tomatoes or any other object at them

southy wrote:

Linesman wrote:

southy wrote:

cyber_fug wrote:

southy wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote:

LeGod wrote:
Well done to the Egg Thrower it couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.

When are you stupid people who voted labour going to realise the Labour party put this country in its current finacial position so if you want us to go bankrupt like Greece then just keep voting labour and then you will realise hardship. Ask the people of Greece 70% of people in Greece have no work.

Wake up the lot of you Milliband is run by the unions.

Just because that's your opinion it doesn't meant to say it's the opinion of others. Royston Smith has been the undoing of the Tories in Southampton. Southampton city council aren't running the country your true blue friends are (at the moment!).... RBS has just repaid the loans from the government and quite a tidy sum. We are nowhere Greece and never have been - that's a load of nonsense!

Southy, enough now you're getting VERY boring and a sore loser.... the election is over - get over it.

Egg wasn't 'thrown' it was on his shoulder... sad person who feels they have to claim their five minutes of fame to do that!

the thing is FM2 there is no difference between the major 3 partys they have all the same policy, and it will tell once again when Labour start to make cuts the Torys will vote with them, We needed some one in the council who would put up a fight for the working class.

The fact that there is very little between the three main party's must tell you something ? Let me give you a little clue... it's all about economics and having to strike a financial balance and although you believe passionately that Socialism is the way forward just look at the state of Greece and Spain and the mess that they are in .... both under Socialist rule ! The reason why people won't elect your party into power is because it doesnt work anymore, and yes you gain votes (well done) but so did screaming lord such when there was a recession going on. You will always get a handful of people that will always vote and will vote for a lesser party rather than spoil the paper or not vote at all.

Your ideals of taxing the rich even higher will just force them to take their businesses elsewhere ! Unless the whole world unites then this will always be an option.

I also thought that were now now a classless society.... so who are the "working class" ;o)

Let me point out to you both Greece and Spain have Capitalist political partys in power.
And let also tell you why they are all very much the same its as nothing to do with finding a balance, its because for the last 25 years people have been train into thinking one way, and not looking for the right answers.
How can you say it do not work any more, first off all to be able to say that its got to tryed out and Socialism Economics as never been tired 100% at any time and no where in the world, the best it ever been was 45% Socialism and 55% capitalism and just having that 45% proved to be 10 times better than 100% Capitalism.
You though we was a classless society that is some thing we have never been, that is just false right wing propaganda

Can you name a country that is run by a Socialist government that you would support?

I don't know of one.

If it were the 'Heaven on Earth' that you appear to think that it would be, why is it not taking place in every country?

No doubt you will come back with the regular spiel about 'Capitalists and Bankers' but there were those people before the Russian Revolution, the French Revolution, China etc etc

Nobody works for nothing. They want to be paid, whether in cash or kind (bartering). That is capitalism.

So, come on Southy. Enough of the criticism, tell me where this Utopia is. Where everyone is equal (except that they are not because there are always workers and skivers. Savers and spendthrifts.)

come on lines you should know better, Capitalism and Socialism are both Economic and political systems, one works on Greed for one self Capitalism and the other works on sharing Socialism.
The closes any country came to Socialism was Russia but it was only a few years Russia between 1917 to 1923 Lenin work was never finished off, it was destroied before it was compleated by Stalin who was a provinicalist (Capitalist).

Socialism or hypocrisy ? Taking full advantage of buying ones council house and then taking as much money out ones company to permit one not to have to work again whilst being well below retirement age ?

Let the jury decide!