Euro blues for battered Labour

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GORDON Brown has taken another mauling in the polls as Labour plunged to fifth place in the European elections for the south east behind the Greens.

In the vote for the region’s ten Euro MPs Labour came fifth after seeing more than a third of its share of the vote melt away to the Greens and smaller parties.

Labour’s Peter Skinner clung onto his seat as the party’s only MEP in the south admitting it had been a “rollercoaster ride”.

He said it had been a “tough election” blaming the “incredible outrage” at the MPs expenses scandal for the parties woes.

The count at St Mary’s Stadium was marred by technology problems and saw a British National Party candidate thrown out accused of pouring himself beer without paying.

However after the results were finally declared shortly after 1am - delayed by at least one recount at Basingstoke - the overall state of the parties remained the same as the last election in 2004.

Tories retained four seats but failed to boost its vote share, the UK Independence Party came second comfortably winning two seats, and Liberal Democrats held its two seats.

Despite a surge in support the Greens could not increase the one seat held by party leader Caroline Lucas.

She admitted it was ''disappointing'' not to win a second but said pushing Labour into fifth place and increasing the party’s vote by more than 50 per cent was “real achievement”.

Lead Tory candidate Daniel Hannan said the latest results for Labour sent another clear message to Mr Brown that he should go. He compared Labour to the closing scenes of the film “Terminator” where the robot keeps pulling its way forward "however clearly you blow the thing up".

UKIP leader Nigel Farage hailed coming second in a national election as "extraordinary" but threatened to call in the lawyers after failing to win a third seat.

He blamed a fold on ballot papers in parts of the region obscuring his party’s box which he said had benefited other anti-EU parties. He called it “outrageous” and “shameful” comparing the election in East Sussex to a “banana republic”.

Former top EU accountant Marta Andreasen, who was sacked for warning of budget abuse and fraud, took UKIP’s second seat pledging to expose how taxpayers’ money was being wasted in Europe.

Lib Dem MEP Sharon Bowles, who will head back to Brusssels, regretted the campaigning had been dominated by national issues. Her view was shared by Tory MEP Richard Ashworth who said it was a “shame the British people hadn’t had a debate about Europe.”

The BNP, who won its first two seats in the European Parliament in the North West and Yorkshire and Humber regions, failed to win enough votes for a seat in the south although pooled a third more votes.

One of its candidates, Mark Burke, was escorted off the premises by stadium security after they claimed they caught him on CCTV pouring beers from the bar without paying.

As he was ejected Mr Burke insisted he didn’t’ drink and had mistaken the beer tap for water, only realising his error when it sprayed froth. He said he had left the glass at the bar.

The night got off the a shambolic start when technical problems prevented results from the 67 districts across the south east being displayed for until after 10pm.

Candidates were also left furious that they were being kept in the dark about developments across the country as TV screens were also left blank.

The one TV in reception was switched off by a security guard because there were too many people crowded round it blocking the entrance. Tory Havant MP David Willetts blasted organisers threatening never to use the venue again. The anger mounted as the bar closed at 10.30pm.

Returning officer Mark Heath, from Southampton City Council which ran the show, said a computer system couldn’t cope with showing maps of electoral regions as well as displaying the results from the south east.

He said the bar licence was the football club’s responsibility.

The region saw a turnout of 37.8 per cent, up slightly on the 36.8 per cent in 2004.

With almost all the results from across the UK in, Labour had managed just 15.4 per cent of the popular vote to UKIP's 17.5 per cent.

The Tories had 28.3 per cent while the Liberal Democrats were in fourth with 14 per cent.

Despite the victories in north, where its leader Nick Griffin claimed a seat amid protests, the BNP had a lower share of the vote than the Greens, with 6.6 per cent to their 8.8 per cent.

Deputy leader Harriet Harman admitted that they had been a ''very dismal'' set of results for the party.

She sought to deflect attention from the Prime Minister, putting the blame for Labour's poor performance on the row over MPs' expenses which, she said, had hit the party particularly hard.

Across the 27 countries of the EU just 43 per cent bothered to vote - a record low.

The proportional representation system means that no party will gain an overall majority in the revised 736-seat European Parliament and the result will see little shift in the balance of power.

The centre right European People's Party will still have the most seats and the Party of European Socialists, within which Labour sit, are second.

Conservatives will now quit the EPP to set up a rival anti-federalist centre-righting grouping with allies mostly from central and eastern Europe.

Labour MEP Mr Skinner said: "I'm glad to be going back as part of a group that will have influence rather than shouting from the sidelines."

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6:53am Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

I think you'll find people voted for UKIP and the BNP for a few more reasons than all our current shambolic crop of MP's being on the fiddle...there are actually several reasons...unrestrict
ed work rights for EU nationals being one of them...they just don't get it do they?...completely out of touch and look what happens, you open the flood doors for the facists
I think you'll find people voted for UKIP and the BNP for a few more reasons than all our current shambolic crop of MP's being on the fiddle...there are actually several reasons...unrestrict ed work rights for EU nationals being one of them...they just don't get it do they?...completely out of touch and look what happens, you open the flood doors for the facists H0ckeyd

7:52am Mon 8 Jun 09

Paramjit Bahia says...

Rather than talking to the people all main parties have been talking at them for a very long time. They have been busy self serving and ignoring the needs and views of the electorate. Even now caught with their hands in the tills they have not done enough to punish the moral if not legal criminals.
To say that British MPs expenses was the only issue is not true. People are aware that corruption in the EU is even worse and gravy train for the MEP even bigger. EU’s own accountants haven’t signed its accounts for 14 years.
So arrogance, ignoring the people, failure to deliver, refusing to admit along with corruption and bailing out the bent bankers and foreign billionaires’ owners of multinationals all were the major issues.
Only way to win back the public’s trust is to start delivering proper services, improve law and order situation and create a stable economy.
One way of doing that is to win back freedom on economic and political polices back from Brussels , otherwise we will end up being exploited by the fascists, who are hiding behind the respectability of our political system and exploiting our democratic process. They are likely to manipulate the system like Nazis did in Germany before the war.
Rather than talking to the people all main parties have been talking at them for a very long time. They have been busy self serving and ignoring the needs and views of the electorate. Even now caught with their hands in the tills they have not done enough to punish the moral if not legal criminals. To say that British MPs expenses was the only issue is not true. People are aware that corruption in the EU is even worse and gravy train for the MEP even bigger. EU’s own accountants haven’t signed its accounts for 14 years. So arrogance, ignoring the people, failure to deliver, refusing to admit along with corruption and bailing out the bent bankers and foreign billionaires’ owners of multinationals all were the major issues. Only way to win back the public’s trust is to start delivering proper services, improve law and order situation and create a stable economy. One way of doing that is to win back freedom on economic and political polices back from Brussels , otherwise we will end up being exploited by the fascists, who are hiding behind the respectability of our political system and exploiting our democratic process. They are likely to manipulate the system like Nazis did in Germany before the war. Paramjit Bahia

8:01am Mon 8 Jun 09

Andy Locks Heath says...

H0ckeyd wrote:
I think you'll find people voted for UKIP and the BNP for a few more reasons than all our current shambolic crop of MP's being on the fiddle...there are actually several reasons...unrestrict

ed work rights for EU nationals being one of them...they just don't get it do they?...completely out of touch and look what happens, you open the flood doors for the facists
I agree with you H0ckeyd. Andy Burnham (this week's Labour Health Secretry) said "We have got to understand why people have voted for the BNP. We should redouble our determination to take them on and take them out of British politics." So Labour have been in power for 11 years and they still don't understand why, but that doesn't stop them from wanting to smash the deomcratic process up because they don't like it. Perhaps the reason some people vote BNP is that they feel disenfranchised in their own country. In the censored Britain of today you can't even discuss the issue without the need to publicly distance yourself from the BNP before you even begin speaking. I don't agree with the BNP but I resent the notion that I have to begin any discussion of them with a seies of snarling denouncements before I even begin talking. So welcome to the Stalinist world of Britain in 2009. As Roy Harper said in 1969 - Free speech - One each.
[quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: I think you'll find people voted for UKIP and the BNP for a few more reasons than all our current shambolic crop of MP's being on the fiddle...there are actually several reasons...unrestrict ed work rights for EU nationals being one of them...they just don't get it do they?...completely out of touch and look what happens, you open the flood doors for the facists[/p][/quote]I agree with you H0ckeyd. Andy Burnham (this week's Labour Health Secretry) said "We have got to understand why people have voted for the BNP. We should redouble our determination to take them on and take them out of British politics." So Labour have been in power for 11 years and they still don't understand why, but that doesn't stop them from wanting to smash the deomcratic process up because they don't like it. Perhaps the reason some people vote BNP is that they feel disenfranchised in their own country. In the censored Britain of today you can't even discuss the issue without the need to publicly distance yourself from the BNP before you even begin speaking. I don't agree with the BNP but I resent the notion that I have to begin any discussion of them with a seies of snarling denouncements before I even begin talking. So welcome to the Stalinist world of Britain in 2009. As Roy Harper said in 1969 - Free speech - One each. Andy Locks Heath

8:30am Mon 8 Jun 09

Linesman says...

I find it a trifle ironic that, at the weekend when we commemorate those who gave their lives in the fight against facist domination of europe, we see an increase in the number of people who have voted for the British Facist party.

It is said that we should learn from history. So much for
Education! Education! Education!
I find it a trifle ironic that, at the weekend when we commemorate those who gave their lives in the fight against facist domination of europe, we see an increase in the number of people who have voted for the British Facist party. It is said that we should learn from history. So much for Education! Education! Education! Linesman

8:52am Mon 8 Jun 09

Charlie George's Lawnmower says...

Why all this dressing up of why people voted BNP?

They voted BNP because they are bigots and morons.

End of story.
Why all this dressing up of why people voted BNP? They voted BNP because they are bigots and morons. End of story. Charlie George's Lawnmower

8:52am Mon 8 Jun 09

sadtobehere says...

I was surprised to see no candidates campaigning in Southampton. Do they expect us to vote for them when they can not be bothered to campaign? UKIP was in Southampton on one Saturday - it was pure chance that I encountered them It was the same at the last local election - nobody could be bothered to campaign. I asked some young people if they had voted at the recnet election, a nurse said she did not even know it was election day. There was no activity at my local voting station - a wooden shack at the end of a gravel path and they said it was accessible for wheelchairs.
I was surprised to see no candidates campaigning in Southampton. Do they expect us to vote for them when they can not be bothered to campaign? UKIP was in Southampton on one Saturday - it was pure chance that I encountered them It was the same at the last local election - nobody could be bothered to campaign. I asked some young people if they had voted at the recnet election, a nurse said she did not even know it was election day. There was no activity at my local voting station - a wooden shack at the end of a gravel path and they said it was accessible for wheelchairs. sadtobehere

9:17am Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

To call them bigots and morons would be the easy thing to do.....and exactly what is expected...the more you say something is wrong or bad, the more people will do that very thing...they were, after all, democratically voted in by a rather large number....this is what happens when you walk on people.
To call them bigots and morons would be the easy thing to do.....and exactly what is expected...the more you say something is wrong or bad, the more people will do that very thing...they were, after all, democratically voted in by a rather large number....this is what happens when you walk on people. H0ckeyd

9:23am Mon 8 Jun 09

Derek of Dibden Purlieu says...

I rather think that Charlie George demonstrates that he's the moron. Just because you stick your fingers in your ears and run around shouting that the BNP is a nasty party isn't going to make it go away. Try and understand why a healthy percentage of the voters put their cross against the BNP. Anyone can stand up and say something is wrong because they don't happen to agree with it but it takes some real substance to persuade people to change their mind.
I rather think that Charlie George demonstrates that he's the moron. Just because you stick your fingers in your ears and run around shouting that the BNP is a nasty party isn't going to make it go away. Try and understand why a healthy percentage of the voters put their cross against the BNP. Anyone can stand up and say something is wrong because they don't happen to agree with it but it takes some real substance to persuade people to change their mind. Derek of Dibden Purlieu

9:26am Mon 8 Jun 09

chapelsaint says...

The election material that came through my letter box was.
UKIP-1 flyer
GREENS 1 flyer
LAB 0
CON 0
LIB DEM 0

Doorstep canvassers 0

Did I vote? Of course but it was maybe an uninformed decision!
The election material that came through my letter box was. UKIP-1 flyer GREENS 1 flyer LAB 0 CON 0 LIB DEM 0 Doorstep canvassers 0 Did I vote? Of course but it was maybe an uninformed decision! chapelsaint

9:28am Mon 8 Jun 09

Charlie George's Lawnmower says...

Derek, I live in the real world.

The BNP are never going to go away, because they appeal to bigots and morons.

How exactly do you suggest we "persuade" BNP voters to change their vote?

Derek, I live in the real world. The BNP are never going to go away, because they appeal to bigots and morons. How exactly do you suggest we "persuade" BNP voters to change their vote? Charlie George's Lawnmower

9:29am Mon 8 Jun 09

Andy Locks Heath says...

Perfectly put Derek. Lawnmower could almost be a labour activist with his summary dismissal rather than reasoned discussion - he doesn't want to understand or face an unpleasant truth so he uses the old socialist technique of smear and besmirch rather than acknowledge and debate. In my opinion the really sad aspect is that many people who voted BNP are actually NOT bigots but people who feel disenfranchised and alienated and if Charlie thought a bit harder he might realise that that is a far sadder and more worrying proprosition.
Perfectly put Derek. Lawnmower could almost be a labour activist with his summary dismissal rather than reasoned discussion - he doesn't want to understand or face an unpleasant truth so he uses the old socialist technique of smear and besmirch rather than acknowledge and debate. In my opinion the really sad aspect is that many people who voted BNP are actually NOT bigots but people who feel disenfranchised and alienated and if Charlie thought a bit harder he might realise that that is a far sadder and more worrying proprosition. Andy Locks Heath

9:47am Mon 8 Jun 09

Charlie George's Lawnmower says...

Andy, you are putting me in a smaller box than I'm putting any BNP supporter, what does that say about how you view the world?

My gut feeling everytime I hear the BNP talk is of revulsion. I really can't fathom how anyone can support a party whose policies are based upon hate.

To be honest, I don't really want to engage or debate with BNP supporters. You maybe correct in that will marginalise them further, but sadly, you can't be rational with irrational people full of hate and ignorance.
Andy, you are putting me in a smaller box than I'm putting any BNP supporter, what does that say about how you view the world? My gut feeling everytime I hear the BNP talk is of revulsion. I really can't fathom how anyone can support a party whose policies are based upon hate. To be honest, I don't really want to engage or debate with BNP supporters. You maybe correct in that will marginalise them further, but sadly, you can't be rational with irrational people full of hate and ignorance. Charlie George's Lawnmower

9:48am Mon 8 Jun 09

hulla ba11oo says...

Once upon a time, only bigots and morons would have voted BNP. It's a sad reflection on what's being done to the UK that that's no longer the case.
Once upon a time, only bigots and morons would have voted BNP. It's a sad reflection on what's being done to the UK that that's no longer the case. hulla ba11oo

9:51am Mon 8 Jun 09

Get it right says...

"The night got off the a shambolic start when technical problems prevented results from the 67 districts across the south east being displayed for until after 10pm."
It's a pity there isn't a "Bring Back English Grammar Party"...
"The night got off the a shambolic start when technical problems prevented results from the 67 districts across the south east being displayed for until after 10pm." It's a pity there isn't a "Bring Back English Grammar Party"... Get it right

9:52am Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

hulla, you have a point, unfortunately it is no longer just the skinheads and NF members who vote for the BNP....for pity's sake they were allowed to advertise on the BBC....no doubt they are the same old BNP, but they now have a MUCH wider spectrum of voters and to call them all morons and bigots is foolish...the people who are the bigots and morons are those who deny and continue to deny the public a referendum on Europe because they are scared...we see why now.
hulla, you have a point, unfortunately it is no longer just the skinheads and NF members who vote for the BNP....for pity's sake they were allowed to advertise on the BBC....no doubt they are the same old BNP, but they now have a MUCH wider spectrum of voters and to call them all morons and bigots is foolish...the people who are the bigots and morons are those who deny and continue to deny the public a referendum on Europe because they are scared...we see why now. H0ckeyd

9:57am Mon 8 Jun 09

hulla ba11oo says...

H0ckeyd wrote:
hulla, you have a point, unfortunately it is no longer just the skinheads and NF members who vote for the BNP....for pity's sake they were allowed to advertise on the BBC....no doubt they are the same old BNP, but they now have a MUCH wider spectrum of voters and to call them all morons and bigots is foolish...the people who are the bigots and morons are those who deny and continue to deny the public a referendum on Europe because they are scared...we see why now.
Well, why shouldn't they be allowed a party political broadcast? The BBC is supposed to be impartial. I'm not a supporter of the party, but it would sicken me if they were simply told "you're not allowed to run for election". There's no earthly reason why they shouldn't. Not even if they actually had a policy of introducing slavery and mandatory Jew hunting on Fridays.
[quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: hulla, you have a point, unfortunately it is no longer just the skinheads and NF members who vote for the BNP....for pity's sake they were allowed to advertise on the BBC....no doubt they are the same old BNP, but they now have a MUCH wider spectrum of voters and to call them all morons and bigots is foolish...the people who are the bigots and morons are those who deny and continue to deny the public a referendum on Europe because they are scared...we see why now.[/p][/quote]Well, why [bold]shouldn't[/bold] they be allowed a party political broadcast? The BBC is supposed to be impartial. I'm not a supporter of the party, but it would sicken me if they were simply told "you're not allowed to run for election". There's no earthly reason why they shouldn't. Not even if they actually had a policy of introducing slavery and mandatory Jew hunting on Fridays. hulla ba11oo

10:11am Mon 8 Jun 09

hulla ba11oo says...

Lawnmower man, in what way is repeating tired dogma over and over again, and using circular reasoning, any proof you live in "the real world"?

Also, cocks
Lawnmower man, in what way is repeating tired dogma over and over again, and using circular reasoning, any proof you live in "the real world"? Also, co[bold][/bold]cks hulla ba11oo

10:12am Mon 8 Jun 09

Andy Locks Heath says...

Question to Charlie George. I'd suggest that bigots and morons should be fairly evenly distributed across the population as a whole. So how do you explain the totally disproportionate cluster of "bigots and morons" in just a few small northern enclaves. What is it? - is it flouride? is it something in the air? Is it magic? Explain it. I think you'll find you are incapable of explaining it without introducing social and environmental issues - yes including immigration. So let's drag you into acknowledging and discussing why so mahy traditional labour voters are now voting BNP. Because yes - whether you like it or not every BNP seat is in what would once be regarded as labour strongholds. So instead of just trying to insult whole sections of the population like a kid in a playground tell us why people seem to have swung from left to far right, not just right to further right as you would like us to believe. Over to you.
Question to Charlie George. I'd suggest that bigots and morons should be fairly evenly distributed across the population as a whole. So how do you explain the totally disproportionate cluster of "bigots and morons" in just a few small northern enclaves. What is it? - is it flouride? is it something in the air? Is it magic? Explain it. I think you'll find you are incapable of explaining it without introducing social and environmental issues - yes including immigration. So let's drag you into acknowledging and discussing why so mahy traditional labour voters are now voting BNP. Because yes - whether you like it or not every BNP seat is in what would once be regarded as labour strongholds. So instead of just trying to insult whole sections of the population like a kid in a playground tell us why people seem to have swung from left to far right, not just right to further right as you would like us to believe. Over to you. Andy Locks Heath

10:14am Mon 8 Jun 09

hulla ba11oo says...

Well, Andy, clearly the answer is that they're all morons and bigots! That's the entire argument! There is no need for anything else, all that matters is that, by a massive coincidence, all morons and bigots have decided to vote for the same party.

Also, pants
Well, Andy, clearly the answer is that they're all morons and bigots! That's the entire argument! There is no need for anything else, all that matters is that, by a massive coincidence, all morons and bigots have decided to vote for the same party. Also, pants hulla ba11oo

10:18am Mon 8 Jun 09

hulla ba11oo says...

Actually, I'll come clean. I am an BNP voter. As part of the Coalition Of Bigots and Morons, we decided at the last meeting to all vote for BNP, purely for the lulz. It's a massive IRL DDoS attack on UK.GOV.

Also, pwnt
Actually, I'll come clean. I [bold]am[/bold] an BNP voter. As part of the Coalition Of Bigots and Morons, we decided at the last meeting to all vote for BNP, purely for the lulz. It's a massive IRL DDoS attack on UK.GOV. Also, pwnt hulla ba11oo

10:18am Mon 8 Jun 09

stuartjebbitt says...

On these results, our 2 sitting Southampton MPs don't have a cat in hells chance of being re-elected. If I were them, I'd be seriously worried.
Perhaps they should start listening to local people.
For starters the 14,000 local people who have signed a petition against having a poison dumped in their water supply.


On these results, our 2 sitting Southampton MPs don't have a cat in hells chance of being re-elected. If I were them, I'd be seriously worried. Perhaps they should start listening to local people. For starters the 14,000 local people who have signed a petition against having a poison dumped in their water supply. stuartjebbitt

10:20am Mon 8 Jun 09

Charlie George's Lawnmower says...

Andy, I'm not as good a hand-wringer as yourself, but I'll give it a stab...

These people voting BNP are morons. How they voted previously, I have no idea, do you? If they voted Labour before, then perhaps they were still bigots then. As I said before, it's hard to be rational with irrational people.

I don't care if I am insulting "whole sections of the population" (actually, very small sections of the population... THANK GOD!). These people insult me and I suspect, the majority of people in the country who find BNP policies to be quite sickening.

Because whatever policies they have on the surface, you have to know what the BNP talk about in private are much more offensive and much more diversive.

So Andy, how are you going to change these BNP morons into decent members of society?

Andy, I'm not as good a hand-wringer as yourself, but I'll give it a stab... These people voting BNP are morons. How they voted previously, I have no idea, do you? If they voted Labour before, then perhaps they were still bigots then. As I said before, it's hard to be rational with irrational people. I don't care if I am insulting "whole sections of the population" (actually, very small sections of the population... THANK GOD!). These people insult me and I suspect, the majority of people in the country who find BNP policies to be quite sickening. Because whatever policies they have on the surface, you have to know what the BNP talk about in private are much more offensive and much more diversive. So Andy, how are you going to change these BNP morons into decent members of society? Charlie George's Lawnmower

10:25am Mon 8 Jun 09

hulla ba11oo says...

These people voting BNP are morons.


Not actually a response to the question. "They're morons because they're morons", effectively. Doesn't work.

If they voted Labour before, then perhaps they were still bigots then


So why the change? Why were they not always voting for the Morons And Bigots Party?

I don't care if I am insulting "whole sections of the population"


Which is itself, pretty much by definition, bigotry.

actually, very small sections of the population...


Which can't possibly be true in light of the fact that this story even exists for you to comment on. Well, not in the real world, where causes and effects exist, anyway.

I suspect, the majority of people in the country who find BNP policies to be quite sickening.


Which policies? I presume you've actually read some, rather than just said "Oh, the BNP are just Morons and Bigots!" and dismissed them out-of-hand.

Also, anus
[quote]These people voting BNP are morons.[/quote] Not actually a response to the question. "They're morons because they're morons", effectively. Doesn't work. [quote]If they voted Labour before, then perhaps they were still bigots then[/quote] So why the change? Why were they not always voting for the Morons And Bigots Party? [quote]I don't care if I am insulting "whole sections of the population"[/quote] Which is itself, pretty much by definition, bigotry. [quote]actually, very small sections of the population...[/quote] Which can't possibly be true in light of the fact that this story even exists for you to comment on. Well, not in the real world, where causes and effects exist, anyway. [quote]I suspect, the majority of people in the country who find BNP policies to be quite sickening.[/quote] Which policies? I presume you've actually read some, rather than just said "Oh, the BNP are just Morons and Bigots!" and dismissed them out-of-hand. Also, an[bold][/bold]us hulla ba11oo

10:54am Mon 8 Jun 09

hulla ba11oo says...

Stop impersonating me. Very shrewd, I must say, slyly putting an apostrophe after "George". Yeh, nobody's thought of that before
Stop impersonating me. Very shrewd, I must say, slyly putting an apostrophe after "George". Yeh, nobody's thought of that before hulla ba11oo

11:09am Mon 8 Jun 09

Charlie George's Lawnmower, Soton says...

That's better
That's better Charlie George's Lawnmower, Soton

11:11am Mon 8 Jun 09

Yomper says...

All of the ex servicemen I know from around the country tell me they voted UKIP or BNP
All of the ex servicemen I know from around the country tell me they voted UKIP or BNP Yomper

11:13am Mon 8 Jun 09

Yomper says...

All of the e3x servicemen I know from around the country tell me they voted UKIP or BNP
All of the e3x servicemen I know from around the country tell me they voted UKIP or BNP Yomper

11:14am Mon 8 Jun 09

bumblysaint says...

I'm not a member of any political party
and never will be.
All I want is a decent society to live in for the few years, hopefully i've
got left. There's too
much uncontrolled
immigration,this country can't take everyone who thinks
they should be allowed in. I'd like a justice system where a sentence is a
deterrent once more,
I'd like to know my
grandchildren will be able to grow up in a Christian country and not a Muslim state,and i'd
like all people regardless of colour or creed to be valued.The only parties who said a lot of what I was seeking were the smaller fringe parties,the bigger mainstream parties are more interested in money than people,
none of them listen to us,and even if they do they then totally ignore what we've asked for.If the B.N.P. have now a
couple of seats give'em a chance to show what they can do before writing them off,they might
suprise all of us.
After all we've had to put up with fiddlers,liars, and
downright dishonest cheats for a long time.Maybe a shake-up
was just what was needed.
I'm not a member of any political party and never will be. All I want is a decent society to live in for the few years, hopefully i've got left. There's too much uncontrolled immigration,this country can't take everyone who thinks they should be allowed in. I'd like a justice system where a sentence is a deterrent once more, I'd like to know my grandchildren will be able to grow up in a Christian country and not a Muslim state,and i'd like all people regardless of colour or creed to be valued.The only parties who said a lot of what I was seeking were the smaller fringe parties,the bigger mainstream parties are more interested in money than people, none of them listen to us,and even if they do they then totally ignore what we've asked for.If the B.N.P. have now a couple of seats give'em a chance to show what they can do before writing them off,they might suprise all of us. After all we've had to put up with fiddlers,liars, and downright dishonest cheats for a long time.Maybe a shake-up was just what was needed. bumblysaint

11:15am Mon 8 Jun 09

Charlie George's Lawnmower, Soton says...

Yomper wrote:
All of the ex servicemen I know from around the country tell me they voted UKIP or BNP
Then they're ignorant racist moronic bigots, and probably gay as well
[quote][p][bold]Yomper[/bold] wrote: All of the ex servicemen I know from around the country tell me they voted UKIP or BNP[/p][/quote]Then they're ignorant racist moronic bigots, and probably gay as well Charlie George's Lawnmower, Soton

11:16am Mon 8 Jun 09

Charlie George's Lawnmower, Soton says...

bumblysaint wrote:
I'm not a member of any political party
and never will be.
All I want is a decent society to live in for the few years, hopefully i've
got left. There's too
much uncontrolled
immigration,this country can't take everyone who thinks
they should be allowed in. I'd like a justice system where a sentence is a
deterrent once more,
I'd like to know my
grandchildren will be able to grow up in a Christian country and not a Muslim state,and i'd
like all people regardless of colour or creed to be valued.The only parties who said a lot of what I was seeking were the smaller fringe parties,the bigger mainstream parties are more interested in money than people,
none of them listen to us,and even if they do they then totally ignore what we've asked for.If the B.N.P. have now a
couple of seats give'em a chance to show what they can do before writing them off,they might
suprise all of us.
After all we've had to put up with fiddlers,liars, and
downright dishonest cheats for a long time.Maybe a shake-up
was just what was needed.
More ignorant, moronic gay bigotry
[quote][p][bold]bumblysaint[/bold] wrote: I'm not a member of any political party and never will be. All I want is a decent society to live in for the few years, hopefully i've got left. There's too much uncontrolled immigration,this country can't take everyone who thinks they should be allowed in. I'd like a justice system where a sentence is a deterrent once more, I'd like to know my grandchildren will be able to grow up in a Christian country and not a Muslim state,and i'd like all people regardless of colour or creed to be valued.The only parties who said a lot of what I was seeking were the smaller fringe parties,the bigger mainstream parties are more interested in money than people, none of them listen to us,and even if they do they then totally ignore what we've asked for.If the B.N.P. have now a couple of seats give'em a chance to show what they can do before writing them off,they might suprise all of us. After all we've had to put up with fiddlers,liars, and downright dishonest cheats for a long time.Maybe a shake-up was just what was needed. [/p][/quote]More ignorant, moronic gay bigotry Charlie George's Lawnmower, Soton

11:33am Mon 8 Jun 09

southy says...

voting BNP is like voting for history to repeat it self, to many people forget that the BNP is the political wing off the national front. and there set up is no different for the set up off the nationalist party in germany before WW2, apart from the national front dont put on uniform, dont make any mistakes for what they really are exstream right wing capitalists (fascist), the worse kind off capitalist there is, the type your parent or grandparents fought against.
the only reason BNP wants into europe is to join the gravy train and most off all link up with other like thinking partys.
voting BNP is like voting for history to repeat it self, to many people forget that the BNP is the political wing off the national front. and there set up is no different for the set up off the nationalist party in germany before WW2, apart from the national front dont put on uniform, dont make any mistakes for what they really are exstream right wing capitalists (fascist), the worse kind off capitalist there is, the type your parent or grandparents fought against. the only reason BNP wants into europe is to join the gravy train and most off all link up with other like thinking partys. southy

11:36am Mon 8 Jun 09

G3orgem says...

BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO G3orgem

11:43am Mon 8 Jun 09

G3orgem says...

G3orgem wrote:
BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO
More ignorant, moronic gay bigotry
[quote][p][bold]G3orgem[/bold] wrote: BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO[/p][/quote]More ignorant, moronic gay bigotry G3orgem

11:43am Mon 8 Jun 09

G3orgem says...

G3orgem wrote:
BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO
More ignorant, moronic gay bigotry
[quote][p][bold]G3orgem[/bold] wrote: BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO[/p][/quote]More ignorant, moronic gay bigotry G3orgem

11:44am Mon 8 Jun 09

Derek of Dibden Purlieu says...

Judging by Charlie Georges narrow minded comments, he is the moronic bigot that he professes to despise so much. Could he have an undisclosed agenda as a recruiting sergeant for the BNP?
Judging by Charlie Georges narrow minded comments, he is the moronic bigot that he professes to despise so much. Could he have an undisclosed agenda as a recruiting sergeant for the BNP? Derek of Dibden Purlieu

11:47am Mon 8 Jun 09

Max Lulz says...

southy wrote:
voting BNP is like voting for history to repeat it self, to many people forget that the BNP is the political wing off the national front. and there set up is no different for the set up off the nationalist party in germany before WW2, apart from the national front dont put on uniform, dont make any mistakes for what they really are exstream right wing capitalists (fascist), the worse kind off capitalist there is, the type your parent or grandparents fought against.
the only reason BNP wants into europe is to join the gravy train and most off all link up with other like thinking partys.
But surely pretty much everybody regardless of who they vote for, is voting for history to repeat itself? Presumably you are - or have been, at some point - a Labour voter. So why did you vote Labour? Because you wanted them to repeat their history of doing whatever it was you liked them doing.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: voting BNP is like voting for history to repeat it self, to many people forget that the BNP is the political wing off the national front. and there set up is no different for the set up off the nationalist party in germany before WW2, apart from the national front dont put on uniform, dont make any mistakes for what they really are exstream right wing capitalists (fascist), the worse kind off capitalist there is, the type your parent or grandparents fought against. the only reason BNP wants into europe is to join the gravy train and most off all link up with other like thinking partys. [/p][/quote]But surely pretty much [bold]everybody[/bold] regardless of who they vote for, is voting for history to repeat itself? Presumably you are - or have been, at some point - a Labour voter. So why did you vote Labour? Because you wanted them to repeat their history of doing whatever it was you liked them doing. Max Lulz

11:48am Mon 8 Jun 09

Max Lulz says...

southy wrote:
voting BNP is like voting for history to repeat it self, to many people forget that the BNP is the political wing off the national front. and there set up is no different for the set up off the nationalist party in germany before WW2, apart from the national front dont put on uniform, dont make any mistakes for what they really are exstream right wing capitalists (fascist), the worse kind off capitalist there is, the type your parent or grandparents fought against.
the only reason BNP wants into europe is to join the gravy train and most off all link up with other like thinking partys.
But surely pretty much everybody regardless of who they vote for, is voting for history to repeat itself? Presumably you are - or have been, at some point - a Labour voter. So why did you vote Labour? Because you wanted them to repeat their history of doing whatever it was you liked them doing.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: voting BNP is like voting for history to repeat it self, to many people forget that the BNP is the political wing off the national front. and there set up is no different for the set up off the nationalist party in germany before WW2, apart from the national front dont put on uniform, dont make any mistakes for what they really are exstream right wing capitalists (fascist), the worse kind off capitalist there is, the type your parent or grandparents fought against. the only reason BNP wants into europe is to join the gravy train and most off all link up with other like thinking partys. [/p][/quote]But surely pretty much [bold]everybody[/bold] regardless of who they vote for, is voting for history to repeat itself? Presumably you are - or have been, at some point - a Labour voter. So why did you vote Labour? Because you wanted them to repeat their history of doing whatever it was you liked them doing. Max Lulz

11:48am Mon 8 Jun 09

Max Lulz says...

Sorry for teh doublepost, the Echo server pwnd my lulz
Sorry for teh doublepost, the Echo server pwnd my lulz Max Lulz

11:49am Mon 8 Jun 09

southy says...

quote""Returning officer Mark Heath, from Southampton City Council which ran the show, said a computer system couldn’t cope with showing maps of electoral regions as well as displaying the results from the south east. "" unquote
other errors include's a fold in the voting paper, failer to deliver polling id vording cards thouth every door, failer to have a officer of the law present at every polling station, the last is enough to enforce a reballot
quote""Returning officer Mark Heath, from Southampton City Council which ran the show, said a computer system couldn’t cope with showing maps of electoral regions as well as displaying the results from the south east. "" unquote other errors include's a fold in the voting paper, failer to deliver polling id vording cards thouth every door, failer to have a officer of the law present at every polling station, the last is enough to enforce a reballot southy

11:51am Mon 8 Jun 09

Andy Locks Heath says...

I'd like to think that many people voting BNP are doing so because they want to express anger and frustration. I don't know this, I just suspect it. There will of course be real morons and bigots there as well but perhaps only the number who would have voted BNP in say, 2000. If we just ignore the anger and frustration then perhaps these disenchanted angry people will vote BNP again. And again. And others may start to do the same. I beleive that the anger that miners felt when their jobs were lost in the eighties is no different to the anger and frustration that workers in other industries feel today when they perceive that their jobs have been taken by immigrant workers on half the wage. I'm talking here purely about the anger and rage not the morality, but how can you tell a man with a wife and small children that he must just accept losing his job to an economic migrant with a shrug ohi shoulders, and that his older children can't get council houses because asylum seekers have got them all? Somehow it was ok for miners - the darlings of the soft hand left - to smash buildings and people yet it isn't ok for steel workers, fishermen, farm workers or lorry drivers because they are just "bigots and morons". It's easy for me to insult them but I need to do a little homework before I do. How am I going to turn them back into decent members of society you ask? My indirect solution in a sentence is integration not diversification. Divided societies don't work and never have. Integrated societies thrive and prosper.
I'd like to think that many people voting BNP are doing so because they want to express anger and frustration. I don't know this, I just suspect it. There will of course be real morons and bigots there as well but perhaps only the number who would have voted BNP in say, 2000. If we just ignore the anger and frustration then perhaps these disenchanted angry people will vote BNP again. And again. And others may start to do the same. I beleive that the anger that miners felt when their jobs were lost in the eighties is no different to the anger and frustration that workers in other industries feel today when they perceive that their jobs have been taken by immigrant workers on half the wage. I'm talking here purely about the anger and rage not the morality, but how can you tell a man with a wife and small children that he must just accept losing his job to an economic migrant with a shrug ohi shoulders, and that his older children can't get council houses because asylum seekers have got them all? Somehow it was ok for miners - the darlings of the soft hand left - to smash buildings and people yet it isn't ok for steel workers, fishermen, farm workers or lorry drivers because they are just "bigots and morons". It's easy for me to insult them but I need to do a little homework before I do. How am I going to turn them back into decent members of society you ask? My indirect solution in a sentence is integration not diversification. Divided societies don't work and never have. Integrated societies thrive and prosper. Andy Locks Heath

11:53am Mon 8 Jun 09

AndyAndrews says...

Nearly a million "bigots and morons" voted BNP in spite of all the anti-democratic attempts by the press, other parties and the Archbishop of Canterbury to discourage this. Surely this was the finest way of showing two fingers to Gordon Brown and his right wing Labour party?
Nearly a million "bigots and morons" voted BNP in spite of all the anti-democratic attempts by the press, other parties and the Archbishop of Canterbury to discourage this. Surely this was the finest way of showing two fingers to Gordon Brown and his right wing Labour party? AndyAndrews

11:59am Mon 8 Jun 09

southy says...

Max Lulz wrote:
Sorry for teh doublepost, the Echo server pwnd my lulz
no problem max, i did not vote for labour, labour is no longer a party for the masses, its now a centre right capitalist party. i care to much about people to vote for right wing ideals, and only vote for partys that are left off centre but NEVER exstream left, the green party i will not vote for to.
[quote][p][bold]Max Lulz[/bold] wrote: Sorry for teh doublepost, the Echo server pwnd my lulz[/p][/quote]no problem max, i did not vote for labour, labour is no longer a party for the masses, its now a centre right capitalist party. i care to much about people to vote for right wing ideals, and only vote for partys that are left off centre but NEVER exstream left, the green party i will not vote for to. southy

12:01pm Mon 8 Jun 09

G3orgem says...

AndyAndrews wrote:
Nearly a million "bigots and morons" voted BNP in spite of all the anti-democratic attempts by the press, other parties and the Archbishop of Canterbury to discourage this. Surely this was the finest way of showing two fingers to Gordon Brown and his right wing Labour party?
Depends if you approve of Racism?
[quote][p][bold]AndyAndrews[/bold] wrote: Nearly a million "bigots and morons" voted BNP in spite of all the anti-democratic attempts by the press, other parties and the Archbishop of Canterbury to discourage this. Surely this was the finest way of showing two fingers to Gordon Brown and his right wing Labour party?[/p][/quote]Depends if you approve of Racism? G3orgem

12:06pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Max Lulz says...

southy wrote:
Max Lulz wrote:
Sorry for teh doublepost, the Echo server pwnd my lulz
no problem max, i did not vote for labour, labour is no longer a party for the masses, its now a centre right capitalist party. i care to much about people to vote for right wing ideals, and only vote for partys that are left off centre but NEVER exstream left, the green party i will not vote for to.
I didn't mean in recent elections, I meant at any point in the past, you were a Labour voter. In fact, I only posited that as an example. Regardless of the actual party involved, fact is, unless you voted for a different party at every single election, you have voted for history to repeat itself. Even if you *have* voted for a different party every time, you've almost certainly still voted for history to repeat itself, unless you constantly change your own, party-agnostic, political ideals. You say you care too much about people to vote for a right-wing party? I'll ignore the glaring begging-the-question there and say, that still shows you vote for history to repeat itself. You vote in the hope that we can return to times where people mattered. That's history, and you want it repeated.

Sorry, mate, I'm playing devils advocate with you slightly here! But I don't see how anybody can ever say "I won't ever vote for this party". We should vote on policy, no?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Lulz[/bold] wrote: Sorry for teh doublepost, the Echo server pwnd my lulz[/p][/quote]no problem max, i did not vote for labour, labour is no longer a party for the masses, its now a centre right capitalist party. i care to much about people to vote for right wing ideals, and only vote for partys that are left off centre but NEVER exstream left, the green party i will not vote for to.[/p][/quote]I didn't mean in recent elections, I meant at any point in the past, you were a Labour voter. In fact, I only posited that as an example. Regardless of the actual party involved, fact is, unless you voted for a different party at every single election, you have voted for history to repeat itself. Even if you *have* voted for a different party every time, you've almost certainly still voted for history to repeat itself, unless you constantly change your own, party-agnostic, political ideals. You say you care too much about people to vote for a right-wing party? I'll ignore the glaring begging-the-question there and say, that still shows you vote for history to repeat itself. You vote in the hope that we can return to times where people mattered. That's history, and you want it repeated. Sorry, mate, I'm playing devils advocate with you slightly here! But I don't see how anybody can ever say "I won't ever vote for this party". We should vote on policy, no? Max Lulz

12:11pm Mon 8 Jun 09

G3orgem says...

I would vote for any party that banned N-Dubz from making "music"
I would vote for any party that banned N-Dubz from making "music" G3orgem

12:12pm Mon 8 Jun 09

G3orgem says...

I would vote for any party that banned N-Dubz from making "music"
I would vote for any party that banned N-Dubz from making "music" G3orgem

12:12pm Mon 8 Jun 09

G3orgem says...

I would vote for any party that banned N-Dubz from making "music"
I would vote for any party that banned N-Dubz from making "music" G3orgem

12:12pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Max Lulz says...

G3orgem wrote:
AndyAndrews wrote:
Nearly a million "bigots and morons" voted BNP in spite of all the anti-democratic attempts by the press, other parties and the Archbishop of Canterbury to discourage this. Surely this was the finest way of showing two fingers to Gordon Brown and his right wing Labour party?
Depends if you approve of Racism?
Not all of their policies are rooted in bigotry. From their health policy:

We are wholly committed to a free, fully funded National Health Service for all British citizens.


Seems fair enough to me. It's funded by national insurance. If my house is burgled, I wouldn't expect to be able to claim on your contents insurance.

We will see to it that no money is given in foreign aid while our own hospitals are short of beds and the staff to run them


Seems sensible enough. The implied social contract is, British citizens contribute collectively to a fund for their own healthcare. Nothing racist about it.
[quote][p][bold]G3orgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AndyAndrews[/bold] wrote: Nearly a million "bigots and morons" voted BNP in spite of all the anti-democratic attempts by the press, other parties and the Archbishop of Canterbury to discourage this. Surely this was the finest way of showing two fingers to Gordon Brown and his right wing Labour party?[/p][/quote]Depends if you approve of Racism? [/p][/quote]Not all of their policies are rooted in bigotry. From their health policy: [quote]We are wholly committed to a free, fully funded National Health Service for all British citizens.[/quote] Seems fair enough to me. It's funded by national insurance. If my house is burgled, I wouldn't expect to be able to claim on your contents insurance. [quote]We will see to it that no money is given in foreign aid while our own hospitals are short of beds and the staff to run them[/quote] Seems sensible enough. The implied social contract is, British citizens contribute collectively to a fund for their own healthcare. Nothing racist about it. Max Lulz

12:14pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Max Lulz says...

G3orgem wrote:
I would vote for any party that banned N-Dubz from making "music"
And also made Simon Cowell illegal
[quote][p][bold]G3orgem[/bold] wrote: I would vote for any party that banned N-Dubz from making "music"[/p][/quote]And also made Simon Cowell illegal Max Lulz

12:22pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Charlie George's Lawnmower, Soton says...

Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:
Judging by Charlie Georges narrow minded comments, he is the moronic bigot that he professes to despise so much. Could he have an undisclosed agenda as a recruiting sergeant for the BNP?
Yeah sure, I'm a recruiter for the BNP! You're the racist, pal! Ignorant ****
[quote][p][bold]Derek of Dibden Purlieu[/bold] wrote: Judging by Charlie Georges narrow minded comments, he is the moronic bigot that he professes to despise so much. Could he have an undisclosed agenda as a recruiting sergeant for the BNP?[/p][/quote]Yeah sure, I'm a recruiter for the BNP! You're the racist, pal! Ignorant **** Charlie George's Lawnmower, Soton

12:26pm Mon 8 Jun 09

hulla ba11oo says...

I'll be voting for the Lemon Party. Much more sensible!

http://www.lemonpart
y.org
I'll be voting for the Lemon Party. Much more sensible! http://www.lemonpart y.org hulla ba11oo

12:30pm Mon 8 Jun 09

goard says...

Many issues culminating in the greed of our political parties have made us disrespect them. We, the public, are brassed off with the constant grabbing at our money, i.e., motoring, selling off ALL our assets (family silver), now looking at our Post Offices to close. Letting in millions of immigrants, not taking care of our industries and so on. May I suggest why BNP is managing to get a foothold - We may not appreciate how some towns are inundated with immigrants and now taking over entire towns thus leaving the indigenous peoples being squeezed out of their their homes and a community they have known all their lives. BNP are their last hope of crying out for help.

goard
Many issues culminating in the greed of our political parties have made us disrespect them. We, the public, are brassed off with the constant grabbing at our money, i.e., motoring, selling off ALL our assets (family silver), now looking at our Post Offices to close. Letting in millions of immigrants, not taking care of our industries and so on. May I suggest why BNP is managing to get a foothold - We may not appreciate how some towns are inundated with immigrants and now taking over entire towns thus leaving the indigenous peoples being squeezed out of their their homes and a community they have known all their lives. BNP are their last hope of crying out for help. goard goard

12:34pm Mon 8 Jun 09

southy says...

Max Lulz wrote:
southy wrote:
Max Lulz wrote:
Sorry for teh doublepost, the Echo server pwnd my lulz
no problem max, i did not vote for labour, labour is no longer a party for the masses, its now a centre right capitalist party. i care to much about people to vote for right wing ideals, and only vote for partys that are left off centre but NEVER exstream left, the green party i will not vote for to.
I didn't mean in recent elections, I meant at any point in the past, you were a Labour voter. In fact, I only posited that as an example. Regardless of the actual party involved, fact is, unless you voted for a different party at every single election, you have voted for history to repeat itself. Even if you *have* voted for a different party every time, you've almost certainly still voted for history to repeat itself, unless you constantly change your own, party-agnostic, political ideals. You say you care too much about people to vote for a right-wing party? I'll ignore the glaring begging-the-question there and say, that still shows you vote for history to repeat itself. You vote in the hope that we can return to times where people mattered. That's history, and you want it repeated.

Sorry, mate, I'm playing devils advocate with you slightly here! But I don't see how anybody can ever say "I won't ever vote for this party". We should vote on policy, no?
your last part is so right people should vote on policy but to many people dont, like when m.thatcher won the election in 1979 she won because she was a woman and got most of the womens votes, and also at that time there was anger at the labour government at the wage freeze that was in its 3rd year,i not saying the torys would off not won that election i sure they would off, but they would off not got that majority like they had it would off been more off a hung government. blair took a leaf out off m.thacters book the use of hand jesters you know the open arms and a slight showing of the palms of the hands (look at me i am being open and honest) makes me wonder what he got to hide, we soon found out, he turned the labour party into a capitalist party.
but yes your right in a way how you vote is repeating history, but you want the better part to repeat it self and not the worse part.
[quote][p][bold]Max Lulz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Lulz[/bold] wrote: Sorry for teh doublepost, the Echo server pwnd my lulz[/p][/quote]no problem max, i did not vote for labour, labour is no longer a party for the masses, its now a centre right capitalist party. i care to much about people to vote for right wing ideals, and only vote for partys that are left off centre but NEVER exstream left, the green party i will not vote for to.[/p][/quote]I didn't mean in recent elections, I meant at any point in the past, you were a Labour voter. In fact, I only posited that as an example. Regardless of the actual party involved, fact is, unless you voted for a different party at every single election, you have voted for history to repeat itself. Even if you *have* voted for a different party every time, you've almost certainly still voted for history to repeat itself, unless you constantly change your own, party-agnostic, political ideals. You say you care too much about people to vote for a right-wing party? I'll ignore the glaring begging-the-question there and say, that still shows you vote for history to repeat itself. You vote in the hope that we can return to times where people mattered. That's history, and you want it repeated. Sorry, mate, I'm playing devils advocate with you slightly here! But I don't see how anybody can ever say "I won't ever vote for this party". We should vote on policy, no?[/p][/quote]your last part is so right people should vote on policy but to many people dont, like when m.thatcher won the election in 1979 she won because she was a woman and got most of the womens votes, and also at that time there was anger at the labour government at the wage freeze that was in its 3rd year,i not saying the torys would off not won that election i sure they would off, but they would off not got that majority like they had it would off been more off a hung government. blair took a leaf out off m.thacters book the use of hand jesters you know the open arms and a slight showing of the palms of the hands (look at me i am being open and honest) makes me wonder what he got to hide, we soon found out, he turned the labour party into a capitalist party. but yes your right in a way how you vote is repeating history, but you want the better part to repeat it self and not the worse part. southy

12:42pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Derek of Dibden Purlieu says...

Poor Charlie. Can't win an argument by logic so reverts to type and begins using abuse.
Poor Charlie. Can't win an argument by logic so reverts to type and begins using abuse. Derek of Dibden Purlieu

12:51pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Charlie George's Lawnmower, Soton says...

Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:
Poor Charlie. Can't win an argument by logic so reverts to type and begins using abuse.
So you hate black people, then? That's logical is it? Very good I must say!!!!11
[quote][p][bold]Derek of Dibden Purlieu[/bold] wrote: Poor Charlie. Can't win an argument by logic so reverts to type and begins using abuse.[/p][/quote]So you hate black people, then? That's logical is it? Very good I must say!!!!11 Charlie George's Lawnmower, Soton

12:55pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Max Lulz says...

So you're saying we shouldn't have given women the vote, then Southy?? (I'm joking)

The tragedy is, there isn't really any solution. Any party can make any claims they want, and simply forget about them as soon as they're elected. Maybe "policy" should become "contractual obligation", and parties should be legally held to their pre-election promises?
So you're saying we shouldn't have given women the vote, then Southy?? (I'm joking) The tragedy is, there isn't really any solution. Any party can make any claims they want, and simply forget about them as soon as they're elected. Maybe "policy" should become "contractual obligation", and parties should be legally held to their pre-election promises? Max Lulz

12:58pm Mon 8 Jun 09

thesaint says...

G3orgem wrote:
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
thicko alert,i am shocked that after the d day event of the weekend of the real war heros who gave their lives.
we have hitlers children repeating the same old propganda.
[quote][p][bold]G3orgem[/bold] wrote: BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO[/p][/quote]thicko alert,i am shocked that after the d day event of the weekend of the real war heros who gave their lives. we have hitlers children repeating the same old propganda. thesaint

1:07pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Max Lulz says...

thesaint wrote:
G3orgem wrote:
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
BNP RULES KO
thicko alert,i am shocked that after the d day event of the weekend of the real war heros who gave their lives.
we have hitlers children repeating the same old propganda.
I am shocked you can't spot an obvious troll, tbh

Teh Internets sure are serious business, eh
[quote][p][bold]thesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]G3orgem[/bold] wrote: BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO BNP RULES KO[/p][/quote]thicko alert,i am shocked that after the d day event of the weekend of the real war heros who gave their lives. we have hitlers children repeating the same old propganda.[/p][/quote]I am shocked you can't spot an obvious troll, tbh Teh Internets sure are serious business, eh Max Lulz

1:09pm Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

I don't know if anyone see's the irony in this, but the xenophobic euro no-voters who've brought in the BNP would probably be shocked to realise that the particular eastern european countries of which many new arrivals have come from have governments who would whole-heartedly concur with the BNP...one thing is for sure...The BNP will NOT be a minority in their views in Brussels.

Also, all of you, please you are all mostly wrong, it is an innate reaction of people and animals to dislike difference and change....the more you call someone a moron and a biggot there more they will become worse.

UNLIKE the main political parties, stop and ask yourself WHY they are like they are?....for example I have been to countries 10 or more times the size of Great Britain with SMALLER immigration quotas than here...does THAT make sense?.....I am all for bringing in people who are needed, but there MUST be a limit...now call me a bigot or a racialist...I know I'm not.
I don't know if anyone see's the irony in this, but the xenophobic euro no-voters who've brought in the BNP would probably be shocked to realise that the particular eastern european countries of which many new arrivals have come from have governments who would whole-heartedly concur with the BNP...one thing is for sure...The BNP will NOT be a minority in their views in Brussels. Also, all of you, please you are all mostly wrong, it is an innate reaction of people and animals to dislike difference and change....the more you call someone a moron and a biggot there more they will become worse. UNLIKE the main political parties, stop and ask yourself WHY they are like they are?....for example I have been to countries 10 or more times the size of Great Britain with SMALLER immigration quotas than here...does THAT make sense?.....I am all for bringing in people who are needed, but there MUST be a limit...now call me a bigot or a racialist...I know I'm not. H0ckeyd

1:10pm Mon 8 Jun 09

thesaint says...

bumblysaint wrote:
I'm not a member of any political party
and never will be.
All I want is a decent society to live in for the few years, hopefully i've
got left. There's too
much uncontrolled
immigration,this country can't take everyone who thinks
they should be allowed in. I'd like a justice system where a sentence is a
deterrent once more,
I'd like to know my
grandchildren will be able to grow up in a Christian country and not a Muslim state,and i'd
like all people regardless of colour or creed to be valued.The only parties who said a lot of what I was seeking were the smaller fringe parties,the bigger mainstream parties are more interested in money than people,
none of them listen to us,and even if they do they then totally ignore what we've asked for.If the B.N.P. have now a
couple of seats give'em a chance to show what they can do before writing them off,they might
suprise all of us.
After all we've had to put up with fiddlers,liars, and
downright dishonest cheats for a long time.Maybe a shake-up
was just what was needed.
winston churchill quote for you bnp nazi lovers"Hitler knows that he will have to break us in this island or lose the war. If we can stand up to him, all Europe may be free and life of the world may move forward into broad, sunlit uplands. But if we fall, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science.
Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that, if the British Empire and its Commonwealth lasts for a thousand years, men will still say, “This was their finest hour!”
[quote][p][bold]bumblysaint[/bold] wrote: I'm not a member of any political party and never will be. All I want is a decent society to live in for the few years, hopefully i've got left. There's too much uncontrolled immigration,this country can't take everyone who thinks they should be allowed in. I'd like a justice system where a sentence is a deterrent once more, I'd like to know my grandchildren will be able to grow up in a Christian country and not a Muslim state,and i'd like all people regardless of colour or creed to be valued.The only parties who said a lot of what I was seeking were the smaller fringe parties,the bigger mainstream parties are more interested in money than people, none of them listen to us,and even if they do they then totally ignore what we've asked for.If the B.N.P. have now a couple of seats give'em a chance to show what they can do before writing them off,they might suprise all of us. After all we've had to put up with fiddlers,liars, and downright dishonest cheats for a long time.Maybe a shake-up was just what was needed. [/p][/quote] winston churchill quote for you bnp nazi lovers"Hitler knows that he will have to break us in this island or lose the war. If we can stand up to him, all Europe may be free and life of the world may move forward into broad, sunlit uplands. But if we fall, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science. Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that, if the British Empire and its Commonwealth lasts for a thousand years, men will still say, “This was their finest hour!” thesaint

1:12pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Max Lulz says...

H0ckeyd wrote:
I don't know if anyone see's the irony in this, but the xenophobic euro no-voters who've brought in the BNP would probably be shocked to realise that the particular eastern european countries of which many new arrivals have come from have governments who would whole-heartedly concur with the BNP...one thing is for sure...The BNP will NOT be a minority in their views in Brussels.

Also, all of you, please you are all mostly wrong, it is an innate reaction of people and animals to dislike difference and change....the more you call someone a moron and a biggot there more they will become worse.

UNLIKE the main political parties, stop and ask yourself WHY they are like they are?....for example I have been to countries 10 or more times the size of Great Britain with SMALLER immigration quotas than here...does THAT make sense?.....I am all for bringing in people who are needed, but there MUST be a limit...now call me a bigot or a racialist...I know I'm not.
See: http://encyclopediad
ramatica.com/Not_rac
ist

Please try and make your post a bit more coherent before calling everyone else "mostly wrong"
[quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: I don't know if anyone see's the irony in this, but the xenophobic euro no-voters who've brought in the BNP would probably be shocked to realise that the particular eastern european countries of which many new arrivals have come from have governments who would whole-heartedly concur with the BNP...one thing is for sure...The BNP will NOT be a minority in their views in Brussels. Also, all of you, please you are all mostly wrong, it is an innate reaction of people and animals to dislike difference and change....the more you call someone a moron and a biggot there more they will become worse. UNLIKE the main political parties, stop and ask yourself WHY they are like they are?....for example I have been to countries 10 or more times the size of Great Britain with SMALLER immigration quotas than here...does THAT make sense?.....I am all for bringing in people who are needed, but there MUST be a limit...now call me a bigot or a racialist...I know I'm not.[/p][/quote]See: http://encyclopediad ramatica.com/Not_rac ist Please try and make your post a bit more coherent before calling everyone else "mostly wrong" Max Lulz

1:21pm Mon 8 Jun 09

southy says...

Max Lulz wrote:
So you're saying we shouldn't have given women the vote, then Southy?? (I'm joking)

The tragedy is, there isn't really any solution. Any party can make any claims they want, and simply forget about them as soon as they're elected. Maybe "policy" should become "contractual obligation", and parties should be legally held to their pre-election promises?
total agree it should be enforce on them to be an obligation. still waiting on labour promise on the vote on the lisbon treaty that they said we would have.
[quote][p][bold]Max Lulz[/bold] wrote: So you're saying we shouldn't have given women the vote, then Southy?? (I'm joking) The tragedy is, there isn't really any solution. Any party can make any claims they want, and simply forget about them as soon as they're elected. Maybe "policy" should become "contractual obligation", and parties should be legally held to their pre-election promises?[/p][/quote]total agree it should be enforce on them to be an obligation. still waiting on labour promise on the vote on the lisbon treaty that they said we would have. southy

1:27pm Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

Max Lulz wrote:
H0ckeyd wrote:
I don't know if anyone see's the irony in this, but the xenophobic euro no-voters who've brought in the BNP would probably be shocked to realise that the particular eastern european countries of which many new arrivals have come from have governments who would whole-heartedly concur with the BNP...one thing is for sure...The BNP will NOT be a minority in their views in Brussels.

Also, all of you, please you are all mostly wrong, it is an innate reaction of people and animals to dislike difference and change....the more you call someone a moron and a biggot there more they will become worse.

UNLIKE the main political parties, stop and ask yourself WHY they are like they are?....for example I have been to countries 10 or more times the size of Great Britain with SMALLER immigration quotas than here...does THAT make sense?.....I am all for bringing in people who are needed, but there MUST be a limit...now call me a bigot or a racialist...I know I'm not.
See: http://encyclopediad

ramatica.com/Not_rac

ist

Please try and make your post a bit more coherent before calling everyone else "mostly wrong"
Coherent?....one side of this discussion is making blanket statements about details of racism they clearly have no comprehension of, the other is again, likewise doing the same...you clearly are "mostly wrong" and that URL?...I take it that was an accusation calling me racist...right, well I know I'm not every asian, african and european friend of mine knows I'm not.....I just am not afraid to hide behind the "fiddling while Rome burns down" you CLEARLY are using.
[quote][p][bold]Max Lulz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: I don't know if anyone see's the irony in this, but the xenophobic euro no-voters who've brought in the BNP would probably be shocked to realise that the particular eastern european countries of which many new arrivals have come from have governments who would whole-heartedly concur with the BNP...one thing is for sure...The BNP will NOT be a minority in their views in Brussels. Also, all of you, please you are all mostly wrong, it is an innate reaction of people and animals to dislike difference and change....the more you call someone a moron and a biggot there more they will become worse. UNLIKE the main political parties, stop and ask yourself WHY they are like they are?....for example I have been to countries 10 or more times the size of Great Britain with SMALLER immigration quotas than here...does THAT make sense?.....I am all for bringing in people who are needed, but there MUST be a limit...now call me a bigot or a racialist...I know I'm not.[/p][/quote]See: http://encyclopediad ramatica.com/Not_rac ist Please try and make your post a bit more coherent before calling everyone else "mostly wrong"[/p][/quote]Coherent?....one side of this discussion is making blanket statements about details of racism they clearly have no comprehension of, the other is again, likewise doing the same...you clearly are "mostly wrong" and that URL?...I take it that was an accusation calling me racist...right, well I know I'm not every asian, african and european friend of mine knows I'm not.....I just am not afraid to hide behind the "fiddling while Rome burns down" you CLEARLY are using. H0ckeyd

1:29pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Max Lulz says...

H0ckeyd wrote:
Max Lulz wrote:
H0ckeyd wrote:
I don't know if anyone see's the irony in this, but the xenophobic euro no-voters who've brought in the BNP would probably be shocked to realise that the particular eastern european countries of which many new arrivals have come from have governments who would whole-heartedly concur with the BNP...one thing is for sure...The BNP will NOT be a minority in their views in Brussels.

Also, all of you, please you are all mostly wrong, it is an innate reaction of people and animals to dislike difference and change....the more you call someone a moron and a biggot there more they will become worse.

UNLIKE the main political parties, stop and ask yourself WHY they are like they are?....for example I have been to countries 10 or more times the size of Great Britain with SMALLER immigration quotas than here...does THAT make sense?.....I am all for bringing in people who are needed, but there MUST be a limit...now call me a bigot or a racialist...I know I'm not.
See: http://encyclopediad


ramatica.com/Not_rac


ist

Please try and make your post a bit more coherent before calling everyone else "mostly wrong"
Coherent?....one side of this discussion is making blanket statements about details of racism they clearly have no comprehension of, the other is again, likewise doing the same...you clearly are "mostly wrong" and that URL?...I take it that was an accusation calling me racist...right, well I know I'm not every asian, african and european friend of mine knows I'm not.....I just am not afraid to hide behind the "fiddling while Rome burns down" you CLEARLY are using.
"I can't be racist, some of my friends are ethnic" - please, follow the URL. Or not. Whatever. Denial sure is ugly, eh. BAAAAWWWW
[quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Lulz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: I don't know if anyone see's the irony in this, but the xenophobic euro no-voters who've brought in the BNP would probably be shocked to realise that the particular eastern european countries of which many new arrivals have come from have governments who would whole-heartedly concur with the BNP...one thing is for sure...The BNP will NOT be a minority in their views in Brussels. Also, all of you, please you are all mostly wrong, it is an innate reaction of people and animals to dislike difference and change....the more you call someone a moron and a biggot there more they will become worse. UNLIKE the main political parties, stop and ask yourself WHY they are like they are?....for example I have been to countries 10 or more times the size of Great Britain with SMALLER immigration quotas than here...does THAT make sense?.....I am all for bringing in people who are needed, but there MUST be a limit...now call me a bigot or a racialist...I know I'm not.[/p][/quote]See: http://encyclopediad ramatica.com/Not_rac ist Please try and make your post a bit more coherent before calling everyone else "mostly wrong"[/p][/quote]Coherent?....one side of this discussion is making blanket statements about details of racism they clearly have no comprehension of, the other is again, likewise doing the same...you clearly are "mostly wrong" and that URL?...I take it that was an accusation calling me racist...right, well I know I'm not every asian, african and european friend of mine knows I'm not.....I just am not afraid to hide behind the "fiddling while Rome burns down" you CLEARLY are using.[/p][/quote]"I can't be racist, some of my friends are ethnic" - please, follow the URL. Or not. Whatever. Denial sure is ugly, eh. BAAAAWWWW Max Lulz

1:31pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Max Lulz says...

southy wrote:
Max Lulz wrote:
So you're saying we shouldn't have given women the vote, then Southy?? (I'm joking)

The tragedy is, there isn't really any solution. Any party can make any claims they want, and simply forget about them as soon as they're elected. Maybe "policy" should become "contractual obligation", and parties should be legally held to their pre-election promises?
total agree it should be enforce on them to be an obligation. still waiting on labour promise on the vote on the lisbon treaty that they said we would have.
You'll be waiting a while, I expect :-(
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Lulz[/bold] wrote: So you're saying we shouldn't have given women the vote, then Southy?? (I'm joking) The tragedy is, there isn't really any solution. Any party can make any claims they want, and simply forget about them as soon as they're elected. Maybe "policy" should become "contractual obligation", and parties should be legally held to their pre-election promises?[/p][/quote]total agree it should be enforce on them to be an obligation. still waiting on labour promise on the vote on the lisbon treaty that they said we would have.[/p][/quote]You'll be waiting a while, I expect :-( Max Lulz

1:34pm Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

Max Lulz wrote:
H0ckeyd wrote:
Max Lulz wrote:
H0ckeyd wrote:
I don't know if anyone see's the irony in this, but the xenophobic euro no-voters who've brought in the BNP would probably be shocked to realise that the particular eastern european countries of which many new arrivals have come from have governments who would whole-heartedly concur with the BNP...one thing is for sure...The BNP will NOT be a minority in their views in Brussels.

Also, all of you, please you are all mostly wrong, it is an innate reaction of people and animals to dislike difference and change....the more you call someone a moron and a biggot there more they will become worse.

UNLIKE the main political parties, stop and ask yourself WHY they are like they are?....for example I have been to countries 10 or more times the size of Great Britain with SMALLER immigration quotas than here...does THAT make sense?.....I am all for bringing in people who are needed, but there MUST be a limit...now call me a bigot or a racialist...I know I'm not.
See: http://encyclopediad



ramatica.com/Not_rac



ist

Please try and make your post a bit more coherent before calling everyone else "mostly wrong"
Coherent?....one side of this discussion is making blanket statements about details of racism they clearly have no comprehension of, the other is again, likewise doing the same...you clearly are "mostly wrong" and that URL?...I take it that was an accusation calling me racist...right, well I know I'm not every asian, african and european friend of mine knows I'm not.....I just am not afraid to hide behind the "fiddling while Rome burns down" you CLEARLY are using.
"I can't be racist, some of my friends are ethnic" - please, follow the URL. Or not. Whatever. Denial sure is ugly, eh. BAAAAWWWW
"BAAAWWWW" -Classy and very civilised...actually most of my friends are "ethnic" and some of my family too....you push so hard because you clearly have your own internal problems with such matters....figures are what I'm talking about, the same ones that most of my friends do too...but carry on, we'd all like to see the cities of great Britain as packed and as polluted as cities such as Mexico City or Delhi or Tokyo....someone who throws around such accusations should seriously look at themselves....cus it seems like a touchy subject for you.
[quote][p][bold]Max Lulz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Lulz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: I don't know if anyone see's the irony in this, but the xenophobic euro no-voters who've brought in the BNP would probably be shocked to realise that the particular eastern european countries of which many new arrivals have come from have governments who would whole-heartedly concur with the BNP...one thing is for sure...The BNP will NOT be a minority in their views in Brussels. Also, all of you, please you are all mostly wrong, it is an innate reaction of people and animals to dislike difference and change....the more you call someone a moron and a biggot there more they will become worse. UNLIKE the main political parties, stop and ask yourself WHY they are like they are?....for example I have been to countries 10 or more times the size of Great Britain with SMALLER immigration quotas than here...does THAT make sense?.....I am all for bringing in people who are needed, but there MUST be a limit...now call me a bigot or a racialist...I know I'm not.[/p][/quote]See: http://encyclopediad ramatica.com/Not_rac ist Please try and make your post a bit more coherent before calling everyone else "mostly wrong"[/p][/quote]Coherent?....one side of this discussion is making blanket statements about details of racism they clearly have no comprehension of, the other is again, likewise doing the same...you clearly are "mostly wrong" and that URL?...I take it that was an accusation calling me racist...right, well I know I'm not every asian, african and european friend of mine knows I'm not.....I just am not afraid to hide behind the "fiddling while Rome burns down" you CLEARLY are using.[/p][/quote]"I can't be racist, some of my friends are ethnic" - please, follow the URL. Or not. Whatever. Denial sure is ugly, eh. BAAAAWWWW[/p][/quote]"BAAAWWWW" -Classy and very civilised...actually most of my friends are "ethnic" and some of my family too....you push so hard because you clearly have your own internal problems with such matters....figures are what I'm talking about, the same ones that most of my friends do too...but carry on, we'd all like to see the cities of great Britain as packed and as polluted as cities such as Mexico City or Delhi or Tokyo....someone who throws around such accusations should seriously look at themselves....cus it seems like a touchy subject for you. H0ckeyd

1:39pm Mon 8 Jun 09

butthurt hockeyd says...

Oh noes! I need teh waaaahmbulance!
Oh noes! I need teh waaaahmbulance! butthurt hockeyd

1:41pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Max Lulz says...

"BAAAWWWW" -Classy and very civilised...actually most of my friends are "ethnic" and some of my family too....you push so hard because you clearly have your own internal problems with such matters....figures are what I'm talking about, the same ones that most of my friends do too...but carry on, we'd all like to see the cities of great Britain as packed and as polluted as cities such as Mexico City or Delhi or Tokyo....someone who throws around such accusations should seriously look at themselves....cus it seems like a touchy subject for you.


Soooo...you *can't* be racist, because you have coloured friends? I'm unconvinced.

Why d'you believe that anybody not sharing your exact view can only possibly hold the exact *opposite* view? Why so aggressive toward others? Why all this projection? Why all the denial? Why so desperate not to be thought of as an racist? (sic)
[quote]"BAAAWWWW" -Classy and very civilised...actually most of my friends are "ethnic" and some of my family too....you push so hard because you clearly have your own internal problems with such matters....figures are what I'm talking about, the same ones that most of my friends do too...but carry on, we'd all like to see the cities of great Britain as packed and as polluted as cities such as Mexico City or Delhi or Tokyo....someone who throws around such accusations should seriously look at themselves....cus it seems like a touchy subject for you.[/quote] Soooo...you *can't* be racist, because you have coloured friends? I'm unconvinced. Why d'you believe that anybody not sharing your exact view can only possibly hold the exact *opposite* view? Why so aggressive toward others? Why all this projection? Why all the denial? Why so desperate not to be thought of as an racist? (sic) Max Lulz

1:42pm Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

butthurt hockeyd wrote:
Oh noes! I need teh waaaahmbulance!
nice bit of homophobia there..yeah because that SOOO okay isnt it....idiots.
[quote][p][bold]butthurt hockeyd[/bold] wrote: Oh noes! I need teh waaaahmbulance![/p][/quote]nice bit of homophobia there..yeah because that SOOO okay isnt it....idiots. H0ckeyd

1:45pm Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

Max Lulz wrote:
"BAAAWWWW" -Classy and very civilised...actually most of my friends are "ethnic" and some of my family too....you push so hard because you clearly have your own internal problems with such matters....figures are what I'm talking about, the same ones that most of my friends do too...but carry on, we'd all like to see the cities of great Britain as packed and as polluted as cities such as Mexico City or Delhi or Tokyo....someone who throws around such accusations should seriously look at themselves....cus it seems like a touchy subject for you.


Soooo...you *can't* be racist, because you have coloured friends? I'm unconvinced.

Why d'you believe that anybody not sharing your exact view can only possibly hold the exact *opposite* view? Why so aggressive toward others? Why all this projection? Why all the denial? Why so desperate not to be thought of as an racist? (sic)
of course you can be racist...many "ethnics" are racist as well...as is most of the human population...which was the point I was making...why would I be in denial? and why would I be projecting..that's what YOU are doing....but it IS YOU who are throwning arounf "BIGOT AND MORON" statements so...


"Why d'you believe that anybody not sharing your exact view can only possibly hold the exact *opposite* view? Why so aggressive toward others? Why all this projection? Why all the denial? Why so desperate not to be thought of as an racist?"
[quote][p][bold]Max Lulz[/bold] wrote: [quote]"BAAAWWWW" -Classy and very civilised...actually most of my friends are "ethnic" and some of my family too....you push so hard because you clearly have your own internal problems with such matters....figures are what I'm talking about, the same ones that most of my friends do too...but carry on, we'd all like to see the cities of great Britain as packed and as polluted as cities such as Mexico City or Delhi or Tokyo....someone who throws around such accusations should seriously look at themselves....cus it seems like a touchy subject for you.[/quote] Soooo...you *can't* be racist, because you have coloured friends? I'm unconvinced. Why d'you believe that anybody not sharing your exact view can only possibly hold the exact *opposite* view? Why so aggressive toward others? Why all this projection? Why all the denial? Why so desperate not to be thought of as an racist? (sic)[/p][/quote]of course you can be racist...many "ethnics" are racist as well...as is most of the human population...which was the point I was making...why would I be in denial? and why would I be projecting..that's what YOU are doing....but it IS YOU who are throwning arounf "BIGOT AND MORON" statements so... "Why d'you believe that anybody not sharing your exact view can only possibly hold the exact *opposite* view? Why so aggressive toward others? Why all this projection? Why all the denial? Why so desperate not to be thought of as an racist?" H0ckeyd

1:45pm Mon 8 Jun 09

butthurt hockeyd says...

H0ckeyd wrote:
butthurt hockeyd wrote:
Oh noes! I need teh waaaahmbulance!
nice bit of homophobia there..yeah because that SOOO okay isnt it....idiots.
O RLY? Whats homophobic about it? Wonder why you connected the dots and got that? "Butthurt"'s got nothing to do with teh gay, y'know. Straight peeps can do buttsecks too. Falling on your butt can give you butthurt. Please, stop with this endless hiding behind liberal dogma, it's unbecoming, and fooling nobody
[quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]butthurt hockeyd[/bold] wrote: Oh noes! I need teh waaaahmbulance![/p][/quote]nice bit of homophobia there..yeah because that SOOO okay isnt it....idiots.[/p][/quote]O RLY? Whats homophobic about it? Wonder why you connected the dots and got that? "Butthurt"'s got nothing to do with teh gay, y'know. Straight peeps can do buttsecks too. Falling on your butt can give you butthurt. Please, stop with this endless hiding behind liberal dogma, it's unbecoming, and fooling nobody butthurt hockeyd

1:45pm Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

Max Lulz wrote:
"BAAAWWWW" -Classy and very civilised...actually most of my friends are "ethnic" and some of my family too....you push so hard because you clearly have your own internal problems with such matters....figures are what I'm talking about, the same ones that most of my friends do too...but carry on, we'd all like to see the cities of great Britain as packed and as polluted as cities such as Mexico City or Delhi or Tokyo....someone who throws around such accusations should seriously look at themselves....cus it seems like a touchy subject for you.


Soooo...you *can't* be racist, because you have coloured friends? I'm unconvinced.

Why d'you believe that anybody not sharing your exact view can only possibly hold the exact *opposite* view? Why so aggressive toward others? Why all this projection? Why all the denial? Why so desperate not to be thought of as an racist? (sic)
of course you can be racist...many "ethnics" are racist as well...as is most of the human population...which was the point I was making...why would I be in denial? and why would I be projecting..that's what YOU are doing....but it IS YOU who are throwning arounf "BIGOT AND MORON" statements so...


"Why d'you believe that anybody not sharing your exact view can only possibly hold the exact *opposite* view? Why so aggressive toward others? Why all this projection? Why all the denial? Why so desperate not to be thought of as an racist?"
[quote][p][bold]Max Lulz[/bold] wrote: [quote]"BAAAWWWW" -Classy and very civilised...actually most of my friends are "ethnic" and some of my family too....you push so hard because you clearly have your own internal problems with such matters....figures are what I'm talking about, the same ones that most of my friends do too...but carry on, we'd all like to see the cities of great Britain as packed and as polluted as cities such as Mexico City or Delhi or Tokyo....someone who throws around such accusations should seriously look at themselves....cus it seems like a touchy subject for you.[/quote] Soooo...you *can't* be racist, because you have coloured friends? I'm unconvinced. Why d'you believe that anybody not sharing your exact view can only possibly hold the exact *opposite* view? Why so aggressive toward others? Why all this projection? Why all the denial? Why so desperate not to be thought of as an racist? (sic)[/p][/quote]of course you can be racist...many "ethnics" are racist as well...as is most of the human population...which was the point I was making...why would I be in denial? and why would I be projecting..that's what YOU are doing....but it IS YOU who are throwning arounf "BIGOT AND MORON" statements so... "Why d'you believe that anybody not sharing your exact view can only possibly hold the exact *opposite* view? Why so aggressive toward others? Why all this projection? Why all the denial? Why so desperate not to be thought of as an racist?" H0ckeyd

1:48pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Max Lulz says...

but it IS YOU who are throwning arounf "BIGOT AND MORON" statements so.


It is? Where? Re-read the thread. Think you've got me confused with Charlie George's Lawnmower. Or do we all just look alike?
[quote]but it IS YOU who are throwning arounf "BIGOT AND MORON" statements so.[/quote] It is? Where? Re-read the thread. Think you've got me confused with Charlie George's Lawnmower. Or do we all just look alike? Max Lulz

1:48pm Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

butthurt hockeyd wrote:
H0ckeyd wrote:
butthurt hockeyd wrote:
Oh noes! I need teh waaaahmbulance!
nice bit of homophobia there..yeah because that SOOO okay isnt it....idiots.
O RLY? Whats homophobic about it? Wonder why you connected the dots and got that? "Butthurt"'s got nothing to do with teh gay, y'know. Straight peeps can do buttsecks too. Falling on your butt can give you butthurt. Please, stop with this endless hiding behind liberal dogma, it's unbecoming, and fooling nobody
your comment about my "butthurt" is clearly a homophobic slur...just reported you.
[quote][p][bold]butthurt hockeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]butthurt hockeyd[/bold] wrote: Oh noes! I need teh waaaahmbulance![/p][/quote]nice bit of homophobia there..yeah because that SOOO okay isnt it....idiots.[/p][/quote]O RLY? Whats homophobic about it? Wonder why you connected the dots and got that? "Butthurt"'s got nothing to do with teh gay, y'know. Straight peeps can do buttsecks too. Falling on your butt can give you butthurt. Please, stop with this endless hiding behind liberal dogma, it's unbecoming, and fooling nobody[/p][/quote]your comment about my "butthurt" is clearly a homophobic slur...just reported you. H0ckeyd

1:50pm Mon 8 Jun 09

G3orgem says...

hulla ba11oo wrote:
I'll be voting for the Lemon Party. Much more sensible! http://www.lemonpart y.org
Goatse is leader and Cupchicks are foreign policy advisor

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[quote][p][bold]hulla ba11oo[/bold] wrote: I'll be voting for the Lemon Party. Much more sensible! http://www.lemonpart y.org[/p][/quote]Goatse is leader and Cupchicks are foreign policy advisor acronyms acronyms acronyms acronyms acronyms BNP G3orgem

1:51pm Mon 8 Jun 09

G3orgem says...

H0ckeyd wrote:
butthurt hockeyd wrote:
H0ckeyd wrote:
butthurt hockeyd wrote: Oh noes! I need teh waaaahmbulance!
nice bit of homophobia there..yeah because that SOOO okay isnt it....idiots.
O RLY? Whats homophobic about it? Wonder why you connected the dots and got that? "Butthurt"'s got nothing to do with teh gay, y'know. Straight peeps can do buttsecks too. Falling on your butt can give you butthurt. Please, stop with this endless hiding behind liberal dogma, it's unbecoming, and fooling nobody
your comment about my "butthurt" is clearly a homophobic slur...just reported you.
Lol, did someone pee in your cornflakes?
[quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]butthurt hockeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]butthurt hockeyd[/bold] wrote: Oh noes! I need teh waaaahmbulance![/p][/quote]nice bit of homophobia there..yeah because that SOOO okay isnt it....idiots.[/p][/quote]O RLY? Whats homophobic about it? Wonder why you connected the dots and got that? "Butthurt"'s got nothing to do with teh gay, y'know. Straight peeps can do buttsecks too. Falling on your butt can give you butthurt. Please, stop with this endless hiding behind liberal dogma, it's unbecoming, and fooling nobody[/p][/quote]your comment about my "butthurt" is clearly a homophobic slur...just reported you.[/p][/quote]Lol, did someone pee in your cornflakes? G3orgem

1:52pm Mon 8 Jun 09

butthurt hockeyd says...

H0ckeyd wrote:
butthurt hockeyd wrote:
H0ckeyd wrote:
butthurt hockeyd wrote:
Oh noes! I need teh waaaahmbulance!
nice bit of homophobia there..yeah because that SOOO okay isnt it....idiots.
O RLY? Whats homophobic about it? Wonder why you connected the dots and got that? "Butthurt"'s got nothing to do with teh gay, y'know. Straight peeps can do buttsecks too. Falling on your butt can give you butthurt. Please, stop with this endless hiding behind liberal dogma, it's unbecoming, and fooling nobody
your comment about my "butthurt" is clearly a homophobic slur...just reported you.
"Clearly"? That's a very simplistic rhetorical device that you seem rather fond of using over and over again. It's supposed to make your opinion read as fact, when of course, it isn't. Clearly you're pre-occupied with sodomy to have lept to effortlessly from the one to the other. Clearly you think implications of homosexuality are "a slur" ergo, by extension, you see homosexuality as A Bad Thing. What a bigot.

Oh noes! Teh banhammer! An I just got this account, too!
[quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]butthurt hockeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]butthurt hockeyd[/bold] wrote: Oh noes! I need teh waaaahmbulance![/p][/quote]nice bit of homophobia there..yeah because that SOOO okay isnt it....idiots.[/p][/quote]O RLY? Whats homophobic about it? Wonder why you connected the dots and got that? "Butthurt"'s got nothing to do with teh gay, y'know. Straight peeps can do buttsecks too. Falling on your butt can give you butthurt. Please, stop with this endless hiding behind liberal dogma, it's unbecoming, and fooling nobody[/p][/quote]your comment about my "butthurt" is clearly a homophobic slur...just reported you.[/p][/quote]"Clearly"? That's a very simplistic rhetorical device that you seem rather fond of using over and over again. It's supposed to make your opinion read as fact, when of course, it isn't. Clearly you're pre-occupied with sodomy to have lept to effortlessly from the one to the other. Clearly you think implications of homosexuality are "a slur" ergo, by extension, you see homosexuality as A Bad Thing. What a bigot. Oh noes! Teh banhammer! An I just got this account, too! butthurt hockeyd

1:52pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Derek of Dibden Purlieu says...

Charlie, when you're deep in a hole, just stop digging. Public humiliation is entertaining but when it's self-inflicted, it is hilarious.
Charlie, when you're deep in a hole, just stop digging. Public humiliation is entertaining but when it's self-inflicted, it is hilarious. Derek of Dibden Purlieu

1:53pm Mon 8 Jun 09

butthurt hockeyd says...

LOL PWNT!
LOL PWNT! butthurt hockeyd

1:54pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Derek of Dibden Purlieu says...

Charlie, When you're in a deep hole, it's considered sensible to stop digging. Public humiliation can be entertaining but when it's self-inflicted it is hilarious.
Charlie, When you're in a deep hole, it's considered sensible to stop digging. Public humiliation can be entertaining but when it's self-inflicted it is hilarious. Derek of Dibden Purlieu

1:54pm Mon 8 Jun 09

butthurt hockeyd says...

G3orgem wrote:
H0ckeyd wrote:
butthurt hockeyd wrote:
H0ckeyd wrote:
butthurt hockeyd wrote: Oh noes! I need teh waaaahmbulance!
nice bit of homophobia there..yeah because that SOOO okay isnt it....idiots.
O RLY? Whats homophobic about it? Wonder why you connected the dots and got that? "Butthurt"'s got nothing to do with teh gay, y'know. Straight peeps can do buttsecks too. Falling on your butt can give you butthurt. Please, stop with this endless hiding behind liberal dogma, it's unbecoming, and fooling nobody
your comment about my "butthurt" is clearly a homophobic slur...just reported you.
Lol, did someone pee in your cornflakes?
PWNT! LOLLERCOASTER!!!!!11
1elevenoneone111!!!
[quote][p][bold]G3orgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]butthurt hockeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]butthurt hockeyd[/bold] wrote: Oh noes! I need teh waaaahmbulance![/p][/quote]nice bit of homophobia there..yeah because that SOOO okay isnt it....idiots.[/p][/quote]O RLY? Whats homophobic about it? Wonder why you connected the dots and got that? "Butthurt"'s got nothing to do with teh gay, y'know. Straight peeps can do buttsecks too. Falling on your butt can give you butthurt. Please, stop with this endless hiding behind liberal dogma, it's unbecoming, and fooling nobody[/p][/quote]your comment about my "butthurt" is clearly a homophobic slur...just reported you.[/p][/quote]Lol, did someone pee in your cornflakes?[/p][/quote]PWNT! LOLLERCOASTER!!!!!11 1elevenoneone111!!! butthurt hockeyd

1:54pm Mon 8 Jun 09

southy says...

Max Lulz wrote:
southy wrote:
Max Lulz wrote:
So you're saying we shouldn't have given women the vote, then Southy?? (I'm joking)

The tragedy is, there isn't really any solution. Any party can make any claims they want, and simply forget about them as soon as they're elected. Maybe "policy" should become "contractual obligation", and parties should be legally held to their pre-election promises?
total agree it should be enforce on them to be an obligation. still waiting on labour promise on the vote on the lisbon treaty that they said we would have.
You'll be waiting a while, I expect :-(
yes your right there, labour, torys, lib/dems, greens, bnp and ukip all want the lisbon treaty in and dont want you to have the vote on it.
heres some interesting the 3 newest partys in the euro elections done well, considering they did not get the air time on tv/radio or the news paper coverage like the 7 partys did, the Christian Party-Christian Peoples Alliances had 35,712 votes and the No2EU 21,455 votes and Socialist Labour Party 15,484 votes in the south-east.
and in northern ireland a socalist party has a member in the EU, who will be doing his job on a working class wage and no expenses claims in europe, we need more people like him only doing the job on a low income
[quote][p][bold]Max Lulz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Lulz[/bold] wrote: So you're saying we shouldn't have given women the vote, then Southy?? (I'm joking) The tragedy is, there isn't really any solution. Any party can make any claims they want, and simply forget about them as soon as they're elected. Maybe "policy" should become "contractual obligation", and parties should be legally held to their pre-election promises?[/p][/quote]total agree it should be enforce on them to be an obligation. still waiting on labour promise on the vote on the lisbon treaty that they said we would have.[/p][/quote]You'll be waiting a while, I expect :-([/p][/quote]yes your right there, labour, torys, lib/dems, greens, bnp and ukip all want the lisbon treaty in and dont want you to have the vote on it. heres some interesting the 3 newest partys in the euro elections done well, considering they did not get the air time on tv/radio or the news paper coverage like the 7 partys did, the Christian Party-Christian Peoples Alliances had 35,712 votes and the No2EU 21,455 votes and Socialist Labour Party 15,484 votes in the south-east. and in northern ireland a socalist party has a member in the EU, who will be doing his job on a working class wage and no expenses claims in europe, we need more people like him only doing the job on a low income southy

1:55pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Derek of Dibden Purlieu says...

Charlie, When you're in a deep hole, it's considered sensible to stop digging. Public humiliation can be entertaining but when it's self-inflicted it is hilarious.
Charlie, When you're in a deep hole, it's considered sensible to stop digging. Public humiliation can be entertaining but when it's self-inflicted it is hilarious. Derek of Dibden Purlieu

1:56pm Mon 8 Jun 09

butthurt hockeyd says...

Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:
Charlie, When you're in a deep hole, it's considered sensible to stop digging. Public humiliation can be entertaining but when it's self-inflicted it is hilarious.
NO U
[quote][p][bold]Derek of Dibden Purlieu[/bold] wrote: Charlie, When you're in a deep hole, it's considered sensible to stop digging. Public humiliation can be entertaining but when it's self-inflicted it is hilarious.[/p][/quote]NO U butthurt hockeyd

1:57pm Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

They certainly are a "slur" if they are untrue....which they are.

My point being, so you've never looked at someone and thought "jesus" they're ugly!...course you have, pre-set recognition...we're all guilty of it...it's just how we handle it and shouts of "Racist", "bigot and moron" as well as "BNP, BNP, BNP" are all very wrong and simple-minded.
They certainly are a "slur" if they are untrue....which they are. My point being, so you've never looked at someone and thought "jesus" they're ugly!...course you have, pre-set recognition...we're all guilty of it...it's just how we handle it and shouts of "Racist", "bigot and moron" as well as "BNP, BNP, BNP" are all very wrong and simple-minded. H0ckeyd

1:57pm Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

They certainly are a "slur" if they are untrue....which they are.

My point being, so you've never looked at someone and thought "jesus" they're ugly!...course you have, pre-set recognition...we're all guilty of it...it's just how we handle it and shouts of "Racist", "bigot and moron" as well as "BNP, BNP, BNP" are all very wrong and simple-minded.
They certainly are a "slur" if they are untrue....which they are. My point being, so you've never looked at someone and thought "jesus" they're ugly!...course you have, pre-set recognition...we're all guilty of it...it's just how we handle it and shouts of "Racist", "bigot and moron" as well as "BNP, BNP, BNP" are all very wrong and simple-minded. H0ckeyd

1:59pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Max Lulz says...

H0ckeyd wrote:
They certainly are a "slur" if they are untrue....which they are.

My point being, so you've never looked at someone and thought "jesus" they're ugly!...course you have, pre-set recognition...we're all guilty of it...it's just how we handle it and shouts of "Racist", "bigot and moron" as well as "BNP, BNP, BNP" are all very wrong and simple-minded.
Wait. Whom are you addressing here? (no pun intended)
[quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: They certainly are a "slur" if they are untrue....which they are. My point being, so you've never looked at someone and thought "jesus" they're ugly!...course you have, pre-set recognition...we're all guilty of it...it's just how we handle it and shouts of "Racist", "bigot and moron" as well as "BNP, BNP, BNP" are all very wrong and simple-minded.[/p][/quote]Wait. Whom are you addressing here? (no pun intended) Max Lulz

1:59pm Mon 8 Jun 09

G3orgem says...

The BNP would ban discussion like on this website.
The BNP would ban discussion like on this website. G3orgem

2:04pm Mon 8 Jun 09

G3orgem says...

H0ckeyd wrote:
They certainly are a "slur" if they are untrue....which they are. My point being, so you've never looked at someone and thought "jesus" they're ugly!...course you have, pre-set recognition...we're all guilty of it...it's just how we handle it and shouts of "Racist", "bigot and moron" as well as "BNP, BNP, BNP" are all very wrong and simple-minded.
What are you chatting about willis?
[quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: They certainly are a "slur" if they are untrue....which they are. My point being, so you've never looked at someone and thought "jesus" they're ugly!...course you have, pre-set recognition...we're all guilty of it...it's just how we handle it and shouts of "Racist", "bigot and moron" as well as "BNP, BNP, BNP" are all very wrong and simple-minded.[/p][/quote]What are you chatting about willis? G3orgem

2:08pm Mon 8 Jun 09

butthurt hockeyd says...

H0ckeyd wrote:
They certainly are a "slur" if they are untrue....which they are.

My point being, so you've never looked at someone and thought "jesus" they're ugly!...course you have, pre-set recognition...we're all guilty of it...it's just how we handle it and shouts of "Racist", "bigot and moron" as well as "BNP, BNP, BNP" are all very wrong and simple-minded.
LOL PWND!!!!!1111onehund
redandeleven111!!

Again! Ladies and gentlemen, we have a new lolcow
[quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: They certainly are a "slur" if they are untrue....which they are. My point being, so you've never looked at someone and thought "jesus" they're ugly!...course you have, pre-set recognition...we're all guilty of it...it's just how we handle it and shouts of "Racist", "bigot and moron" as well as "BNP, BNP, BNP" are all very wrong and simple-minded.[/p][/quote]LOL PWND!!!!!1111onehund redandeleven111!! Again! Ladies and gentlemen, we have a new lolcow butthurt hockeyd

2:09pm Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

I'm just making a generalised statement that I just think this argument is "deeper" than pro or anti-racism I don't know, I just think that everyone has the capacity to vote idiots like this in and those who campaign against it....like several "crusading anti child abuse campaigners" often have something to hide.

but on the other hand, being racist is illegal and against the law...and wrong.
I'm just making a generalised statement that I just think this argument is "deeper" than pro or anti-racism I don't know, I just think that everyone has the capacity to vote idiots like this in and those who campaign against it....like several "crusading anti child abuse campaigners" often have something to hide. but on the other hand, being racist is illegal and against the law...and wrong. H0ckeyd

2:10pm Mon 8 Jun 09

G3orgem says...

butthurt hockeyd wrote:
H0ckeyd wrote: They certainly are a "slur" if they are untrue....which they are. My point being, so you've never looked at someone and thought "jesus" they're ugly!...course you have, pre-set recognition...we're all guilty of it...it's just how we handle it and shouts of "Racist", "bigot and moron" as well as "BNP, BNP, BNP" are all very wrong and simple-minded.
LOL PWND!!!!!1111onehund redandeleven111!! Again! Ladies and gentlemen, we have a new lolcow
LOLOLYMPICS, PWN'D, R0X0R TEH BOXOR5.
[quote][p][bold]butthurt hockeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: They certainly are a "slur" if they are untrue....which they are. My point being, so you've never looked at someone and thought "jesus" they're ugly!...course you have, pre-set recognition...we're all guilty of it...it's just how we handle it and shouts of "Racist", "bigot and moron" as well as "BNP, BNP, BNP" are all very wrong and simple-minded.[/p][/quote]LOL PWND!!!!!1111onehund redandeleven111!! Again! Ladies and gentlemen, we have a new lolcow[/p][/quote]LOLOLYMPICS, PWN'D, R0X0R TEH BOXOR5. G3orgem

2:11pm Mon 8 Jun 09

butthurt hockeyd says...

H0ckeyd wrote:
I'm just making a generalised statement that I just think this argument is "deeper" than pro or anti-racism I don't know, I just think that everyone has the capacity to vote idiots like this in and those who campaign against it....like several "crusading anti child abuse campaigners" often have something to hide.

but on the other hand, being racist is illegal and against the law...and wrong.
Please quote me the law statute under which racism is illegal. No, rly. Show me a case where someone has been prosecuted for racism. Not for a racial attack, or for a racially motivated burglary, or for inter-racial crime, but simply for the act of being racist alone
[quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: I'm just making a generalised statement that I just think this argument is "deeper" than pro or anti-racism I don't know, I just think that everyone has the capacity to vote idiots like this in and those who campaign against it....like several "crusading anti child abuse campaigners" often have something to hide. but on the other hand, being racist is illegal and against the law...and wrong.[/p][/quote]Please quote me the law statute under which racism is illegal. No, rly. Show me a case where someone has been prosecuted for racism. Not for a racial attack, or for a racially motivated burglary, or for inter-racial crime, but simply for the act of being racist alone butthurt hockeyd

2:12pm Mon 8 Jun 09

butthurt hockeyd says...

G3orgem wrote:
butthurt hockeyd wrote:
H0ckeyd wrote: They certainly are a "slur" if they are untrue....which they are. My point being, so you've never looked at someone and thought "jesus" they're ugly!...course you have, pre-set recognition...we're all guilty of it...it's just how we handle it and shouts of "Racist", "bigot and moron" as well as "BNP, BNP, BNP" are all very wrong and simple-minded.
LOL PWND!!!!!1111onehund redandeleven111!! Again! Ladies and gentlemen, we have a new lolcow
LOLOLYMPICS, PWN'D, R0X0R TEH BOXOR5.
H0ckeyd (more like C0ckeyd, amirite?) will be an hero Last Thursday
[quote][p][bold]G3orgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]butthurt hockeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: They certainly are a "slur" if they are untrue....which they are. My point being, so you've never looked at someone and thought "jesus" they're ugly!...course you have, pre-set recognition...we're all guilty of it...it's just how we handle it and shouts of "Racist", "bigot and moron" as well as "BNP, BNP, BNP" are all very wrong and simple-minded.[/p][/quote]LOL PWND!!!!!1111onehund redandeleven111!! Again! Ladies and gentlemen, we have a new lolcow[/p][/quote]LOLOLYMPICS, PWN'D, R0X0R TEH BOXOR5.[/p][/quote]H0ckeyd (more like C0ckeyd, amirite?) will be an hero Last Thursday butthurt hockeyd

2:24pm Mon 8 Jun 09

G3orgem says...

H0ckeyd wrote:
I'm just making a generalised statement that I just think this argument is "deeper" than pro or anti-racism I don't know, I just think that everyone has the capacity to vote idiots like this in and those who campaign against it....like several "crusading anti child abuse campaigners" often have something to hide. but on the other hand, being racist is illegal and against the law...and wrong.
The only way is the BNP, you will see this or be punished.
[quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: I'm just making a generalised statement that I just think this argument is "deeper" than pro or anti-racism I don't know, I just think that everyone has the capacity to vote idiots like this in and those who campaign against it....like several "crusading anti child abuse campaigners" often have something to hide. but on the other hand, being racist is illegal and against the law...and wrong.[/p][/quote]The only way is the BNP, you will see this or be punished. G3orgem

2:43pm Mon 8 Jun 09

peasant says...

Hopefully this will encourage future HM Govs to take heed of the electorate's concerns about employment, immigration, taxation, house prices, bank regulation, energy rip offs, crime, parliamentary regulation, etc etc instead of ignoring them!
Hopefully this will encourage future HM Govs to take heed of the electorate's concerns about employment, immigration, taxation, house prices, bank regulation, energy rip offs, crime, parliamentary regulation, etc etc instead of ignoring them! peasant

2:45pm Mon 8 Jun 09

butthurt hockeyd says...

Oh noes! He's gone!
Oh noes! He's gone! butthurt hockeyd

2:50pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Derek of Dibden Purlieu says...

Poor Charlie,

Along with the Rat Catchers dog, he can dish it out but goes in to a temper tantrum when someone questions his rather narrow argument.
Poor Charlie, Along with the Rat Catchers dog, he can dish it out but goes in to a temper tantrum when someone questions his rather narrow argument. Derek of Dibden Purlieu

3:02pm Mon 8 Jun 09

butthurt hockeyd says...

You fail at arguing, Charlie! Pwnt!
You fail at arguing, Charlie! Pwnt! butthurt hockeyd

3:29pm Mon 8 Jun 09

bumblysaint says...

Well, they're in now
and there's not a thing anyone can do
about it,is there?.
Hard luck Charlie,
ha ha ha .
Well, they're in now and there's not a thing anyone can do about it,is there?. Hard luck Charlie, ha ha ha . bumblysaint

3:55pm Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

bunch of web warriors...oh noes wot? old butthurt there aint got no learning.
bunch of web warriors...oh noes wot? old butthurt there aint got no learning. H0ckeyd

4:02pm Mon 8 Jun 09

butthurt hockeyd says...

H0ckeyd wrote:
bunch of web warriors...oh noes wot? old butthurt there aint got no learning.
lol wut
[quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: bunch of web warriors...oh noes wot? old butthurt there aint got no learning.[/p][/quote]lol wut butthurt hockeyd

4:39pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Charlie George's Lawnmower, Soton says...

Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:
Poor Charlie,

Along with the Rat Catchers dog, he can dish it out but goes in to a temper tantrum when someone questions his rather narrow argument.
How is it a narrow argument? Hows it a tantrum when youre the racist ignorant ****? GTFO
[quote][p][bold]Derek of Dibden Purlieu[/bold] wrote: Poor Charlie, Along with the Rat Catchers dog, he can dish it out but goes in to a temper tantrum when someone questions his rather narrow argument. [/p][/quote]How is it a narrow argument? Hows it a tantrum when youre the racist ignorant ****? GTFO Charlie George's Lawnmower, Soton

4:39pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Something to comment on says...

My god, when will people learn that the BNP are incredibly dangerous! The sheer knowledge that Nick Griffin has the same passport as me makes me sick. I appreciate everyone has the right to an opinion, but please people, realise that in times of economic uncertainty, that is when the extreme elements (Left and right) emerge in a stronger force than previously. Please, please remember that Hitler was voted in, in times of severe econonomic hardship, way more than we have now. Over 10 million people died in what became known as the Holocaust (including the 6 million Jews, plus those who were deemed 'untermenschen') What is ironic, is that many of those who have links to the modern BNP would be considered 'anti-social' by the Nazis, and no doubt would have suffered under the T4 programme. (security word - thus shot - I rest my case)
My god, when will people learn that the BNP are incredibly dangerous! The sheer knowledge that Nick Griffin has the same passport as me makes me sick. I appreciate everyone has the right to an opinion, but please people, realise that in times of economic uncertainty, that is when the extreme elements (Left and right) emerge in a stronger force than previously. Please, please remember that Hitler was voted in, in times of severe econonomic hardship, way more than we have now. Over 10 million people died in what became known as the Holocaust (including the 6 million Jews, plus those who were deemed 'untermenschen') What is ironic, is that many of those who have links to the modern BNP would be considered 'anti-social' by the Nazis, and no doubt would have suffered under the T4 programme. (security word - thus shot - I rest my case) Something to comment on

4:45pm Mon 8 Jun 09

butthurt hockeyd says...

Something to comment on wrote:
My god, when will people learn that the BNP are incredibly dangerous! The sheer knowledge that Nick Griffin has the same passport as me makes me sick. I appreciate everyone has the right to an opinion, but please people, realise that in times of economic uncertainty, that is when the extreme elements (Left and right) emerge in a stronger force than previously. Please, please remember that Hitler was voted in, in times of severe econonomic hardship, way more than we have now. Over 10 million people died in what became known as the Holocaust (including the 6 million Jews, plus those who were deemed 'untermenschen') What is ironic, is that many of those who have links to the modern BNP would be considered 'anti-social' by the Nazis, and no doubt would have suffered under the T4 programme. (security word - thus shot - I rest my case)
You lose! Godwins Law in full effect! Thanks for playing

So who's to blame? Those who want something better for them and their country, or those who engineered our current situation? Not that you can answer, having already disqualified yourself with the Godwin footbullet
[quote][p][bold]Something to comment on[/bold] wrote: My god, when will people learn that the BNP are incredibly dangerous! The sheer knowledge that Nick Griffin has the same passport as me makes me sick. I appreciate everyone has the right to an opinion, but please people, realise that in times of economic uncertainty, that is when the extreme elements (Left and right) emerge in a stronger force than previously. Please, please remember that Hitler was voted in, in times of severe econonomic hardship, way more than we have now. Over 10 million people died in what became known as the Holocaust (including the 6 million Jews, plus those who were deemed 'untermenschen') What is ironic, is that many of those who have links to the modern BNP would be considered 'anti-social' by the Nazis, and no doubt would have suffered under the T4 programme. (security word - thus shot - I rest my case) [/p][/quote]You lose! Godwins Law in full effect! Thanks for playing So who's to blame? Those who want something better for them and their country, or those who engineered our current situation? Not that you can answer, having already disqualified yourself with the Godwin footbullet butthurt hockeyd

5:07pm Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

I would also be deemed "untermenschen" who would have been killed in the T4 program as I have a serious Neurological condition more noticeable then than now...but people will vote for who they vote for, like it or not we cannot change that.

Democracy unfortunatley is not just for the good guys.
I would also be deemed "untermenschen" who would have been killed in the T4 program as I have a serious Neurological condition more noticeable then than now...but people will vote for who they vote for, like it or not we cannot change that. Democracy unfortunatley is not just for the good guys. H0ckeyd

5:10pm Mon 8 Jun 09

StEmmosButttHurt says...

H0ckeyd wrote:
I would also be deemed "untermenschen" who would have been killed in the T4 program as I have a serious Neurological condition more noticeable then than now...but people will vote for who they vote for, like it or not we cannot change that.

Democracy unfortunatley is not just for the good guys.
Lol!
[quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: I would also be deemed "untermenschen" who would have been killed in the T4 program as I have a serious Neurological condition more noticeable then than now...but people will vote for who they vote for, like it or not we cannot change that. Democracy unfortunatley is not just for the good guys.[/p][/quote]Lol! StEmmosButttHurt

5:34pm Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

StEmmosButttHurt wrote:
H0ckeyd wrote:
I would also be deemed "untermenschen" who would have been killed in the T4 program as I have a serious Neurological condition more noticeable then than now...but people will vote for who they vote for, like it or not we cannot change that.

Democracy unfortunatley is not just for the good guys.
Lol!
what's so funny a nice bit of disability discrimination?...je
ez your a piece of work.
[quote][p][bold]StEmmosButttHurt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: I would also be deemed "untermenschen" who would have been killed in the T4 program as I have a serious Neurological condition more noticeable then than now...but people will vote for who they vote for, like it or not we cannot change that. Democracy unfortunatley is not just for the good guys.[/p][/quote]Lol![/p][/quote]what's so funny a nice bit of disability discrimination?...je ez your a piece of work. H0ckeyd

5:34pm Mon 8 Jun 09

StEmmosButttHurt says...

H0ckeyd wrote:
StEmmosButttHurt wrote:
H0ckeyd wrote:
I would also be deemed "untermenschen" who would have been killed in the T4 program as I have a serious Neurological condition more noticeable then than now...but people will vote for who they vote for, like it or not we cannot change that.

Democracy unfortunatley is not just for the good guys.
Lol!
what's so funny a nice bit of disability discrimination?...je

ez your a piece of work.
Lollercoaster! PWNT!
[quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StEmmosButttHurt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: I would also be deemed "untermenschen" who would have been killed in the T4 program as I have a serious Neurological condition more noticeable then than now...but people will vote for who they vote for, like it or not we cannot change that. Democracy unfortunatley is not just for the good guys.[/p][/quote]Lol![/p][/quote]what's so funny a nice bit of disability discrimination?...je ez your a piece of work.[/p][/quote]Lollercoaster! PWNT! StEmmosButttHurt

5:38pm Mon 8 Jun 09

StEmmosButttHurt says...

I'M IN UR NEURONS, PWNING UR BRAINS
I'M IN UR NEURONS, PWNING UR BRAINS StEmmosButttHurt

5:45pm Mon 8 Jun 09

StEmmosButttHurt says...

The funniest thing about disability discrimination is, the incessant whingeing you get from the victims. It's not even a real bit of discrimination, it's conjecture about how you *might* have been treated, *if* you were living in Nazi Germany. Which you're not. So it's an epic fail on several levels. BAAAAAW!!
The funniest thing about disability discrimination is, the incessant whingeing you get from the victims. It's not even a real bit of discrimination, it's conjecture about how you *might* have been treated, *if* you were living in Nazi Germany. Which you're not. So it's an epic fail on several levels. BAAAAAW!! StEmmosButttHurt

5:50pm Mon 8 Jun 09

StEmmosButttHurt says...

1. Whine about how "teh nazis" would treat someone with angsty brainhurt syndrome
2. Remember present isn't Nazi Germany
3. ????
4. Profit!!!!111eleven1
11!
1. Whine about how "teh nazis" would treat someone with angsty brainhurt syndrome 2. Remember present isn't Nazi Germany 3. ???? 4. Profit!!!!111eleven1 11! StEmmosButttHurt

5:51pm Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

StEmmosButttHurt wrote:
The funniest thing about disability discrimination is, the incessant whingeing you get from the victims. It's not even a real bit of discrimination, it's conjecture about how you *might* have been treated, *if* you were living in Nazi Germany. Which you're not. So it's an epic fail on several levels. BAAAAAW!!
d!ckhead there is no might and tousands of children and babies with my condition (because no-one ever made it beyond that point back then) WERE murdered....and they are still dying across the world...what you just said is as bad as racism and you try to goad me?...I think you are scum.
[quote][p][bold]StEmmosButttHurt[/bold] wrote: The funniest thing about disability discrimination is, the incessant whingeing you get from the victims. It's not even a real bit of discrimination, it's conjecture about how you *might* have been treated, *if* you were living in Nazi Germany. Which you're not. So it's an epic fail on several levels. BAAAAAW!![/p][/quote]d!ckhead there is no might and tousands of children and babies with my condition (because no-one ever made it beyond that point back then) WERE murdered....and they are still dying across the world...what you just said is as bad as racism and you try to goad me?...I think you are scum. H0ckeyd

5:52pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Vconfused says...

I think the argument about whether the BNP is racist or not is redundant, as their own policy states that they are. Elaborate definitions of race and ethnicity are, a far as I am aware, not vital to any other party. Nick Griffin said black and Asian Britons do not exist. I find those comments offensive. It also shows an ignorance of the facts - there is no-one who is 'ethnically British'. Britain attracted immigrants for thousands of years. At what point to these people become British according to the BNP?

People are worried about the economy, but if they blame anyone it should be the banks who got us into this situation, not immigration. We need immigration to support a rapidly aging population and to fill jobs that many young people born in Britain feel are beneath them. The other parties need to make more effort to attract voters, and bring hope to the inner cities, otherwise people will vote because of fear.
I think the argument about whether the BNP is racist or not is redundant, as their own policy states that they are. Elaborate definitions of race and ethnicity are, a far as I am aware, not vital to any other party. Nick Griffin said black and Asian Britons do not exist. I find those comments offensive. It also shows an ignorance of the facts - there is no-one who is 'ethnically British'. Britain attracted immigrants for thousands of years. At what point to these people become British according to the BNP? People are worried about the economy, but if they blame anyone it should be the banks who got us into this situation, not immigration. We need immigration to support a rapidly aging population and to fill jobs that many young people born in Britain feel are beneath them. The other parties need to make more effort to attract voters, and bring hope to the inner cities, otherwise people will vote because of fear. Vconfused

6:21pm Mon 8 Jun 09

StEmmosButttHurt says...

H0ckeyd wrote:
StEmmosButttHurt wrote:
The funniest thing about disability discrimination is, the incessant whingeing you get from the victims. It's not even a real bit of discrimination, it's conjecture about how you *might* have been treated, *if* you were living in Nazi Germany. Which you're not. So it's an epic fail on several levels. BAAAAAW!!
d!ckhead there is no might and tousands of children and babies with my condition (because no-one ever made it beyond that point back then) WERE murdered....and they are still dying across the world...what you just said is as bad as racism and you try to goad me?...I think you are scum.
What I said is "as bad as racism" is it? How? Because you said so? Sorry, reality requires a bit more than that. This would be the same "racism" that's magically become illegal all of a sudden, would it?

I might well be trying to goad you, but to be honest, I'm not having to try very hard. Name-calling befause I said something you don't like? So soon? I had you pegged a little higher than that, tbh. Oh well, I guess, since I'm not BWAAAAAAH!!-ing all over your angsty emo brainhurt syndrome, I really must be scum, eh.

Lulz all round
[quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StEmmosButttHurt[/bold] wrote: The funniest thing about disability discrimination is, the incessant whingeing you get from the victims. It's not even a real bit of discrimination, it's conjecture about how you *might* have been treated, *if* you were living in Nazi Germany. Which you're not. So it's an epic fail on several levels. BAAAAAW!![/p][/quote]d!ckhead there is no might and tousands of children and babies with my condition (because no-one ever made it beyond that point back then) WERE murdered....and they are still dying across the world...what you just said is as bad as racism and you try to goad me?...I think you are scum.[/p][/quote]What I said is "as bad as racism" is it? How? Because you said so? Sorry, reality requires a bit more than that. This would be the same "racism" that's magically become illegal all of a sudden, would it? I might well be trying to goad you, but to be honest, I'm not having to try very hard. Name-calling befause I said something you don't like? So soon? I had you pegged a little higher than that, tbh. Oh well, I guess, since I'm not BWAAAAAAH!!-ing all over your angsty emo brainhurt syndrome, I really must be scum, eh. Lulz all round StEmmosButttHurt

6:31pm Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

Of course it is as bad as racism, you really have no idea of the treatment of disabled people in history do you?...it's as murderous and as vile as the slave trade or any other racial incident in history and should be treated the same...it boils down to things that people cannot control, a disabled person has as much control over their disability as a person has over their skin colour and such abuse should be treated as thus.

also the correct term for my condition is Hydrocephalus, founded by hyppocratis in ancient greece...not "emo brain syndrome" in a sense your term is as bad as calling someone any number of racial insults you can think of......so yes, to champion anti-racism then come out with that says a LOT.

It's okay for on, but not another eh?
Of course it is as bad as racism, you really have no idea of the treatment of disabled people in history do you?...it's as murderous and as vile as the slave trade or any other racial incident in history and should be treated the same...it boils down to things that people cannot control, a disabled person has as much control over their disability as a person has over their skin colour and such abuse should be treated as thus. also the correct term for my condition is Hydrocephalus, founded by hyppocratis in ancient greece...not "emo brain syndrome" in a sense your term is as bad as calling someone any number of racial insults you can think of......so yes, to champion anti-racism then come out with that says a LOT. It's okay for on, but not another eh? H0ckeyd

6:33pm Mon 8 Jun 09

johnm says...

Has anyone noticed that Nick griffin Leader of the British Nazi Party parts his hair on the same side as Adolf Hitler
Has anyone noticed that Nick griffin Leader of the British Nazi Party parts his hair on the same side as Adolf Hitler johnm

6:39pm Mon 8 Jun 09

StEmmosButttHurt says...

H0ckeyd wrote:
Of course it is as bad as racism, you really have no idea of the treatment of disabled people in history do you?...it's as murderous and as vile as the slave trade or any other racial incident in history and should be treated the same...it boils down to things that people cannot control, a disabled person has as much control over their disability as a person has over their skin colour and such abuse should be treated as thus.

also the correct term for my condition is Hydrocephalus, founded by hyppocratis in ancient greece...not "emo brain syndrome" in a sense your term is as bad as calling someone any number of racial insults you can think of......so yes, to champion anti-racism then come out with that says a LOT.

It's okay for on, but not another eh?
It's as "bad as racism" in the sense of you wanting it to be, so you can act all butthurt about it and get 20 more self-pity points. Apparently me posting something on teh internets is now equated with actual, real acts of slavery, during which actual, real people were actually really damaged. You're a sicko, chum, thinking you deciding to be mildly offended by something someone says (and make no mistake, it *is* a decision) somehow makes you the same as someone who was forcibly sold into slavery. Try telling that to a descendent of slavery: "Oh, I share your ancestors' pain, because some guy in the interwebs once said something a bit mean to me". See how far you get, you whiny little ne'er-do-well. Stop feeling sorry for yourself, I know people far more ill than you that don't waste their time moaning on the internets about how they're suffering so much, more than an entire race of people who were sold into slavery, because they tried to get some sympathy from THE INTERNETS and didn't quite get the reaction they wanted BAAAAAAAAAW!

Interesting you bring up slavery though, presumably you're one of thise morons who thinks only blacks were ever slaves, and it's a race thing, and don't realise that, actually, most races on the planet have been enslaved by another at some point. Get your facts right, buster
[quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: Of course it is as bad as racism, you really have no idea of the treatment of disabled people in history do you?...it's as murderous and as vile as the slave trade or any other racial incident in history and should be treated the same...it boils down to things that people cannot control, a disabled person has as much control over their disability as a person has over their skin colour and such abuse should be treated as thus. also the correct term for my condition is Hydrocephalus, founded by hyppocratis in ancient greece...not "emo brain syndrome" in a sense your term is as bad as calling someone any number of racial insults you can think of......so yes, to champion anti-racism then come out with that says a LOT. It's okay for on, but not another eh?[/p][/quote]It's as "bad as racism" in the sense of you wanting it to be, so you can act all butthurt about it and get 20 more self-pity points. Apparently me posting something on teh internets is now equated with actual, real acts of slavery, during which actual, real people were actually really damaged. You're a sicko, chum, thinking you deciding to be mildly offended by something someone says (and make no mistake, it *is* a decision) somehow makes you the same as someone who was forcibly sold into slavery. Try telling that to a descendent of slavery: "Oh, I share your ancestors' pain, because some guy in the interwebs once said something a bit mean to me". See how far you get, you whiny little ne'er-do-well. Stop feeling sorry for yourself, I know people far more ill than you that don't waste their time moaning on the internets about how they're suffering so much, more than an entire race of people who were sold into slavery, because they tried to get some sympathy from THE INTERNETS and didn't quite get the reaction they wanted BAAAAAAAAAW! Interesting you bring up slavery though, presumably you're one of thise morons who thinks only blacks were ever slaves, and it's a race thing, and don't realise that, actually, most races on the planet have been enslaved by another at some point. Get your facts right, buster StEmmosButttHurt

6:48pm Mon 8 Jun 09

StEmmosButttHurt says...

I know I've been goading this guy a bit, for the lulz, but is anybody else offended by his view that leg-pulling in an anonymous web forum is the same as mass genocide and the selling of an entire people? Does anybody else think he's somewhat trivialising slavery, and the suffering brought about by it?
I know I've been goading this guy a bit, for the lulz, but is anybody else offended by his view that leg-pulling in an anonymous web forum is the same as mass genocide and the selling of an entire people? Does anybody else think he's somewhat trivialising slavery, and the suffering brought about by it? StEmmosButttHurt

7:33pm Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

StEmmosButttHurt wrote:
I know I've been goading this guy a bit, for the lulz, but is anybody else offended by his view that leg-pulling in an anonymous web forum is the same as mass genocide and the selling of an entire people? Does anybody else think he's somewhat trivialising slavery, and the suffering brought about by it?
BUt you are trivialising the inhuman and murderous treatment dished out to people who have not for their own choice been as healthy as you...it's just as bad, killed as many people and lasted as long if not longer than the slave trade...the slave trade is just one example of a multitude of wrongs commited by the human race in history....and racism is just one of many, no trivialisation there but to highlight it as THE worst is WRONG, STUPID and IGNORANT
[quote][p][bold]StEmmosButttHurt[/bold] wrote: I know I've been goading this guy a bit, for the lulz, but is anybody else offended by his view that leg-pulling in an anonymous web forum is the same as mass genocide and the selling of an entire people? Does anybody else think he's somewhat trivialising slavery, and the suffering brought about by it?[/p][/quote]BUt you are trivialising the inhuman and murderous treatment dished out to people who have not for their own choice been as healthy as you...it's just as bad, killed as many people and lasted as long if not longer than the slave trade...the slave trade is just one example of a multitude of wrongs commited by the human race in history....and racism is just one of many, no trivialisation there but to highlight it as THE worst is WRONG, STUPID and IGNORANT H0ckeyd

7:38pm Mon 8 Jun 09

StEmmosButttHurt says...

H0ckeyd wrote:
StEmmosButttHurt wrote:
I know I've been goading this guy a bit, for the lulz, but is anybody else offended by his view that leg-pulling in an anonymous web forum is the same as mass genocide and the selling of an entire people? Does anybody else think he's somewhat trivialising slavery, and the suffering brought about by it?
BUt you are trivialising the inhuman and murderous treatment dished out to people who have not for their own choice been as healthy as you...it's just as bad, killed as many people and lasted as long if not longer than the slave trade...the slave trade is just one example of a multitude of wrongs commited by the human race in history....and racism is just one of many, no trivialisation there but to highlight it as THE worst is WRONG, STUPID and IGNORANT
Am I? As far as I can tell, I'm taking the p!ss out of you for taking yourself so seriously and being utterly wrapped up in self-pity. If that makes me "just as bad as mass murderers" then I suggest you re-examine your morals a little.

Also, you're still yet to explain how racism is illegal
[quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StEmmosButttHurt[/bold] wrote: I know I've been goading this guy a bit, for the lulz, but is anybody else offended by his view that leg-pulling in an anonymous web forum is the same as mass genocide and the selling of an entire people? Does anybody else think he's somewhat trivialising slavery, and the suffering brought about by it?[/p][/quote]BUt you are trivialising the inhuman and murderous treatment dished out to people who have not for their own choice been as healthy as you...it's just as bad, killed as many people and lasted as long if not longer than the slave trade...the slave trade is just one example of a multitude of wrongs commited by the human race in history....and racism is just one of many, no trivialisation there but to highlight it as THE worst is WRONG, STUPID and IGNORANT[/p][/quote]Am I? As far as I can tell, I'm taking the p!ss out of you for taking yourself so seriously and being utterly wrapped up in self-pity. If that makes me "just as bad as mass murderers" then I suggest you re-examine your morals a little. Also, you're still yet to explain how racism is illegal StEmmosButttHurt

7:52pm Mon 8 Jun 09

H0ckeyd says...

StEmmosButttHurt wrote:
H0ckeyd wrote:
StEmmosButttHurt wrote:
I know I've been goading this guy a bit, for the lulz, but is anybody else offended by his view that leg-pulling in an anonymous web forum is the same as mass genocide and the selling of an entire people? Does anybody else think he's somewhat trivialising slavery, and the suffering brought about by it?
BUt you are trivialising the inhuman and murderous treatment dished out to people who have not for their own choice been as healthy as you...it's just as bad, killed as many people and lasted as long if not longer than the slave trade...the slave trade is just one example of a multitude of wrongs commited by the human race in history....and racism is just one of many, no trivialisation there but to highlight it as THE worst is WRONG, STUPID and IGNORANT
Am I? As far as I can tell, I'm taking the p!ss out of you for taking yourself so seriously and being utterly wrapped up in self-pity. If that makes me "just as bad as mass murderers" then I suggest you re-examine your morals a little.

Also, you're still yet to explain how racism is illegal
complete and utter bell end.

so are all the people called racial abuse "wrapped up in self-pity" too...those mass-murderers took great pleasure in killing, gays, and disabled people as well as Jewish people as well....so you think it's fun to take the p!ss out of someone online then...classy
[quote][p][bold]StEmmosButttHurt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StEmmosButttHurt[/bold] wrote: I know I've been goading this guy a bit, for the lulz, but is anybody else offended by his view that leg-pulling in an anonymous web forum is the same as mass genocide and the selling of an entire people? Does anybody else think he's somewhat trivialising slavery, and the suffering brought about by it?[/p][/quote]BUt you are trivialising the inhuman and murderous treatment dished out to people who have not for their own choice been as healthy as you...it's just as bad, killed as many people and lasted as long if not longer than the slave trade...the slave trade is just one example of a multitude of wrongs commited by the human race in history....and racism is just one of many, no trivialisation there but to highlight it as THE worst is WRONG, STUPID and IGNORANT[/p][/quote]Am I? As far as I can tell, I'm taking the p!ss out of you for taking yourself so seriously and being utterly wrapped up in self-pity. If that makes me "just as bad as mass murderers" then I suggest you re-examine your morals a little. Also, you're still yet to explain how racism is illegal[/p][/quote]complete and utter bell end. so are all the people called racial abuse "wrapped up in self-pity" too...those mass-murderers took great pleasure in killing, gays, and disabled people as well as Jewish people as well....so you think it's fun to take the p!ss out of someone online then...classy H0ckeyd

7:59pm Mon 8 Jun 09

StEmmosButttHurt says...

H0ckeyd wrote:
StEmmosButttHurt wrote:
H0ckeyd wrote:
StEmmosButttHurt wrote:
I know I've been goading this guy a bit, for the lulz, but is anybody else offended by his view that leg-pulling in an anonymous web forum is the same as mass genocide and the selling of an entire people? Does anybody else think he's somewhat trivialising slavery, and the suffering brought about by it?
BUt you are trivialising the inhuman and murderous treatment dished out to people who have not for their own choice been as healthy as you...it's just as bad, killed as many people and lasted as long if not longer than the slave trade...the slave trade is just one example of a multitude of wrongs commited by the human race in history....and racism is just one of many, no trivialisation there but to highlight it as THE worst is WRONG, STUPID and IGNORANT
Am I? As far as I can tell, I'm taking the p!ss out of you for taking yourself so seriously and being utterly wrapped up in self-pity. If that makes me "just as bad as mass murderers" then I suggest you re-examine your morals a little.

Also, you're still yet to explain how racism is illegal
complete and utter bell end.

so are all the people called racial abuse "wrapped up in self-pity" too...those mass-murderers took great pleasure in killing, gays, and disabled people as well as Jewish people as well....so you think it's fun to take the p!ss out of someone online then...classy
Err, no. I am not stereotyping any demographic whatsoever, I am talking very specifically about *you*. It's not my fault you can't make the distinction. *You* are wrapped up in self-pity. Not "everyone who has your unfortunate illness", just you.

And, yes, I *do* think it's fun to take the p!ss out of someone online. Especially when they react as lulzily as you
[quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StEmmosButttHurt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H0ckeyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StEmmosButttHurt[/bold] wrote: I know I've been goading this guy a bit, for the lulz, but is anybody else offended by his view that leg-pulling in an anonymous web forum is the same as mass genocide and the selling of an entire people? Does anybody else think he's somewhat trivialising slavery, and the suffering brought about by it?[/p][/quote]BUt you are trivialising the inhuman and murderous treatment dished out to people who have not for their own choice been as healthy as you...it's just as bad, killed as many people and lasted as long if not longer than the slave trade...the slave trade is just one example of a multitude of wrongs commited by the human race in history....and racism is just one of many, no trivialisation there but to highlight it as THE worst is WRONG, STUPID and IGNORANT[/p][/quote]Am I? As far as I can tell, I'm taking the p!ss out of you for taking yourself so seriously and being utterly wrapped up in self-pity. If that makes me "just as bad as mass murderers" then I suggest you re-examine your morals a little. Also, you're still yet to explain how racism is illegal[/p][/quote]complete and utter bell end. so are all the people called racial abuse "wrapped up in self-pity" too...those mass-murderers took great pleasure in killing, gays, and disabled people as well as Jewish people as well....so you think it's fun to take the p!ss out of someone online then...classy [/p][/quote]Err, no. I am not stereotyping any demographic whatsoever, I am talking very specifically about *you*. It's not my fault you can't make the distinction. *You* are wrapped up in self-pity. Not "everyone who has your unfortunate illness", just you. And, yes, I *do* think it's fun to take the p!ss out of someone online. Especially when they react as lulzily as you StEmmosButttHurt

5:52pm Tue 9 Jun 09

Bartonian says...

looking at the photo, the car park operator are not very good when it comes to displaying clear signs. Had they done so, then maybe motorists would have got the message and stayed away.
looking at the photo, the car park operator are not very good when it comes to displaying clear signs. Had they done so, then maybe motorists would have got the message and stayed away. Bartonian

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