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    mooky9 wrote:
    Tom Liverpool wrote:
    mooky9 wrote:
    Tom Liverpool wrote:
    mooky9 wrote:
    STEVEGAS wrote:
    People in the North will be flocking to book cruise liners from Liverpool. It makes economic sense but will not be a major threat. Southampton should log on to Peel Holdings to look at the plans now thst is what i call vision. You cannot even compare Southampton to Liverpool for culture, sport, business and music. Southampton is were Liverpol was in the 80's
    No - I've looked out the window, town isn't on fire, no perms or shellsuits and the wheels are still on my car. So we're not where Liverpool were in the eighties...
    Ditto. Liverpool is not the place that you depict, never was, your problem is that you read what the tabloids say and are then stupid enough to believe what you read especially the Sun. In fact I would bet that you have never been here and therefore have no right to pass comments that you cannot justify.
    I know Southampton quite well and outside of the city is really nice but the city itself does not compare to Liverpool, you also have most of the problems that you seem to throw at Liverpool, I read your newspaper most days and the reports indicate a city beset with the problems suffered by most cities.
    If you look at national statistics Liverpool is better than most nowadays.
    The one thing most of your politicians and commentators seem to ignore, is the awful journey from the North to your city and the prohibitive cost unless you travel by bus via London which is usually overnight and very unpleasant.
    You should make an effort and come here maybe then you wont have such a bad opinion of the place, the natives are really quite friendly.
    Yea Liverpool may have alot going for it but you still seem to be missing a sense of humour, or be overly defensive about your city. I think you need to.... "calm down calm down".
    Its difficult to calm down when people persist in repeating the same overused platitudes and lies. Surely you can do better.
    Fair point but it was early! It was a simple bit of banter directed at some Liverpudlians who seemed to be drowing in their own smugness and made a point of going onto a Southampton paper to have a dig at the residents. So I would direct your own comment back at you, surely you can do better...?
    Mooky9. It is fair comment, I just wish everyone here (Liverpool) and Southampton would CALM DOWN, both cities have their merits, but personally do believe Liverpool to be a much more interesting place, warts and all, I have a friend who lives in Southampton so I do know the place. Lets all just get on with the new situation and see what transpires."
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Liverpool told to pay back cash in cruise row with Southampton

Liverpool told to pay back cash in cruise row with Southampton

Liverpool cruise terminal

Liverpool cruise terminal

First published in Shipping Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Parliamentary Correspondent

MINISTERS have this morning announced how much public cash Liverpool will have to repay to muscle in on Southampton’s cruise industry.

Shipping Minister Mike Penning has said a one-off payment of £8.8m, or £12.6m spread over 15 years, would be sufficient for restrictions to be lifted.

The Merseysiders had offered to pay back just £5.5m of the £9.2m grants.

Mr Penning told MPs: “In my view this represents a fair outcome that addresses competition concerns while enhancing the benefits to secure which the grants were initially paid.”

The statement will anger some in the Southampton camp by offering the chance to spread payments until 2027. And it makes no reference to a separate EU grant of around £8.6 million, which Liverpool has not offered to repay.

Final removal of the conditions will depend on state aid clearance from the European Commission, although Liverpool plans to restart cruises from its terminal within weeks

Reacting to the announcement, Southampton Itchen MP John Denham, said: “The Minister’s decision to require Liverpool to pay back more of the public subsidy on their cruise terminal vindicates the campaign that I and many organisations in the city have been running. It shows we were right to raise concerns that fair competition was being undermined.

“However, Liverpool is still only being asked to pay back less than half the subsidy they have received. It’s now down to the European Union to ensure that State Aid rules are fairly applied.”

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