Queen names luxury liner in Southampton (From Daily Echo)

She could have put a bit more effort into it, all she said was "I name this ship Queen Elizabeth". Don't strain yourself dear.

As for the BBC News 24 saying that she was launching the ship ... wrong, it was launched in Italy. They also put up the caption that it was being named Queen Elizabeth 3.

EPIC-FAIL

Very Proud for the Cunard Fleet. Though much of the pride of the former Queen liners was that they were British made and were the very best. What ever happened to the ship building industry?

If only it was built in this country. We could have been very proud of this ship and the men and women that worked to build it, but no we ruined ship building in this country and I doubt we will ever build anything of this scale apart from unwanted war ships, and even they are being built by Eastern Europeans. All those skills and talents wasted.

I is good to see that see her home port is Southampton, and not Liverpool or Ports***** sorry can't that last place name, yes may be the Queen culd have done more but hi what ever she is in her 80's is she not and done it all before she should have been the 3rd to show how long are queen has been the head of state but I just hope that Cunard employees more english salior that would be good for us?????

Southampton boy wrote:
I is good to see that see her home port is Southampton, and not Liverpool or Ports***** sorry can't that last place name, yes may be the Queen culd have done more but hi what ever she is in her 80's is she not and done it all before she should have been the 3rd to show how long are queen has been the head of state but I just hope that Cunard employees more english salior that would be good for us?????

Is this a wind up?

Brite Spark wrote:
She could have put a bit more effort into it, all she said was "I name this ship Queen Elizabeth". Don't strain yourself dear.

As for the BBC News 24 saying that she was launching the ship ... wrong, it was launched in Italy. They also put up the caption that it was being named Queen Elizabeth 3.

EPIC-FAIL

LOL!

The report stated that:

"Cunard's Queen Elizabeth was christened by the monarch in a ceremony at Southampton docks. "

What's this nonsense about christening a ship? It was named, not subjected to a religious ceremony.

If it hadn't been for the disastrous conservative government of the early 1980s, this vessel would have been British built, instead of by a U.S. company in Italy.

All this whinging about Cunard/ Carnival UK being an American firm is getting annoying. Carnival Corp (the US bit) and Carnival UK plc are separate listed companies, one in New York and the other on the London Stock Exchange with different shareholder bodies. Carnival PLC has a mainly British shareholder base, the company is based in Southampton as we know and in terms of officers and head office staff it employs mostly British people. So that means that Cunard, P&O and the Ocean Village brands are very much in British control. Yes the Carnival brand is American but in the UK it is separately owned and operated!

Rob,I'm probably older than you with a longer memory.It has nothing to do with the Conservative Government of the 1980s. During WW2 our Shipyards were working flat out to help this Country win a war. When it was over we along with the United States poured Billions of Pounds and Doillars into Europe.This helped to build modern Shipyard for our ex-enemies and the nations that were occupied. So there they were with brand new modern Shipyards.We were left with worn out old fashioned Shipyards. There was no money left to be spent on modernising our Yards.
That is why we no longer have yards capable of building these ships.
You can't blame the Conservatives for everything.We had a Labour Government in those days.

Rob444 wrote:
The report stated that:

"Cunard's Queen Elizabeth was christened by the monarch in a ceremony at Southampton docks. "

What's this nonsense about christening a ship? It was named, not subjected to a religious ceremony.

If it hadn't been for the disastrous conservative government of the early 1980s, this vessel would have been British built, instead of by a U.S. company in Italy.

British shipbuilding died in 1977 when Skate Callaghan nationalised it. Profitable yards like Vospers lost work to less buoyant ones on the Clyde and Tyne just to secure votes. By the time Mrs T came to power the industry was as good as dead.

Brite spark,she said all that is ever said when a Ship is named. In this case "I name this ship Queen Elizabeth.May God bless her and all who sail in her." This has been unchanged fot generations.If you knew anything about Ships,you'd know that.

col123 wrote:
Brite spark,she said all that is ever said when a Ship is named. In this case "I name this ship Queen Elizabeth.May God bless her and all who sail in her." This has been unchanged fot generations.If you knew anything about Ships,you'd know that.

My 23 years with the RN and Royal Marines counts for nothing then :-(

I for one am disgusted that my monarch named this US owned, Italian built ship when so many of our own ship building tradesmen are out of work. Shame on her.
Thatcher put the final nails into the coffin of our industry back in the 80's when my hubby was made redundant from VT because of lack of orders. Since then, most of our ships have been built abroad.
It's a sad state of affairs when an island doesn't have it's own shipbuilding industry and sends work to other countries.

LL wrote:
I for one am disgusted that my monarch named this US owned, Italian built ship when so many of our own ship building tradesmen are out of work. Shame on her.
Thatcher put the final nails into the coffin of our industry back in the 80's when my hubby was made redundant from VT because of lack of orders. Since then, most of our ships have been built abroad.
It's a sad state of affairs when an island doesn't have it's own shipbuilding industry and sends work to other countries.

It is sad LL, but ask yourself, if there were no orders for ships, what should have happened? It is not the job of governments to act as salesmen for industry - governments should be there for health, education, defence. social services and so on, not for commerce. The only alternative in your note is that for some reason the government should have paid your husband and thousands of his colleagues to sit on packing cases playing cards all day while raising the taxes on profitable industries to pay their wages until profitable industries relocated to the far east. (Funny but that is what has happened under labour and now we are even worse off than before) I agree with your final sentence but the truth is complicated. Just going back to blame Thatcher time after time after time means that lessons will never be learned and history's failures in Britain will repeat themselves on our children. None of us want that.

To the School of Echo Journalism: please show a little respect and decorum - and have a copy of Debretts to hand. Her Majesty The Queen. And, from the Costa Blanca School of Copywriting we subscribe to the belief of "why say ten words when you can say one"? Or six as it was in Liz's case. Er, Your Majesty.

Southampton boy wrote:
I is good to see that see her home port is Southampton, and not Liverpool or Ports***** sorry can't that last place name, yes may be the Queen culd have done more but hi what ever she is in her 80's is she not and done it all before she should have been the 3rd to show how long are queen has been the head of state but I just hope that Cunard employees more english salior that would be good for us?????

Your grammar is awfull!

Condor Man wrote:

Rob444 wrote: The report stated that: "Cunard's Queen Elizabeth was christened by the monarch in a ceremony at Southampton docks. " What's this nonsense about christening a ship? It was named, not subjected to a religious ceremony. If it hadn't been for the disastrous conservative government of the early 1980s, this vessel would have been British built, instead of by a U.S. company in Italy.

British shipbuilding died in 1977 when Skate Callaghan nationalised it. Profitable yards like Vospers lost work to less buoyant ones on the Clyde and Tyne just to secure votes. By the time Mrs T came to power the industry was as good as dead.

There was an excellent documentary on BBC4 on Sunday evening about the decline in British Shipbuilding, look it up on BBC iplayer it is well worth the watch.

Maybe some of those on here who keep asking why we can not build ships anymore may be more inclined not to keep asking the question!

Where is Southy in all this?

What a pleasant change not to have to read his dribble!

Robb, your one sided when you say it was the conservatives in power and blame them for the state of the ship building in the UK.(none)
As a retired ships officer (Cunard/Carnival) the word about british shipbuilders was they could not gaurantee ships on time, UK shipyard workers have a really bad work record, to much demarkation and work to rule. Thats why we have no ships being built. We have ourselves to blame.
Did you know that foreign shipyards deliver their ships ahead of shedule (not like UK)
The cruise ship companies want to feel confident that all their planning will go without a hitch. Not to much to ask!

The QE2 was fitted out in the King George the 5th dry docks in Southampton. Having been tugged down from the yard in Scotland. The problem was due to the fact that there was so much equipment going missing,- like gold plated bathroom fittings - rolls of carpet etc. etc.
But don't think for a minute, that the workers had anything to do with it. It was all down to corrupt management. So don't blame politicians for the reason why we don't build ships here any more.
A retired member of the team of Vosper Thornicroft workers, who worked day and night 7 days a week, to fit her out.

WoolstonSean wrote:

Southampton boy wrote: I is good to see that see her home port is Southampton, and not Liverpool or Ports***** sorry can't that last place name, yes may be the Queen culd have done more but hi what ever she is in her 80's is she not and done it all before she should have been the 3rd to show how long are queen has been the head of state but I just hope that Cunard employees more english salior that would be good for us?????

Your grammar is awfull!

Awfull?
I trust this is deliberate.

Brite Spark wrote:

col123 wrote: Brite spark,she said all that is ever said when a Ship is named. In this case "I name this ship Queen Elizabeth.May God bless her and all who sail in her." This has been unchanged fot generations.If you knew anything about Ships,you'd know that.

My 23 years with the RN and Royal Marines counts for nothing then :-(

That would certainly appear to be the case.

How many ships did you witness being launched?

I was also in the RN, and never saw a ship launched, but I have seen plenty of newreels of ships being launched, and as has already been said, the wording has, by tradition, remained unchanged.

hulla baloo wrote:

WoolstonSean wrote:

Southampton boy wrote: I is good to see that see her home port is Southampton, and not Liverpool or Ports***** sorry can't that last place name, yes may be the Queen culd have done more but hi what ever she is in her 80's is she not and done it all before she should have been the 3rd to show how long are queen has been the head of state but I just hope that Cunard employees more english salior that would be good for us?????

Your grammar is awfull!

Awfull? I trust this is deliberate.

Yes it was !

Yes it was !

Westsidestory wrote:
The QE2 was fitted out in the King George the 5th dry docks in Southampton. Having been tugged down from the yard in Scotland. The problem was due to the fact that there was so much equipment going missing,- like gold plated bathroom fittings - rolls of carpet etc. etc. But don't think for a minute, that the workers had anything to do with it. It was all down to corrupt management. So don't blame politicians for the reason why we don't build ships here any more. A retired member of the team of Vosper Thornicroft workers, who worked day and night 7 days a week, to fit her out.

The QE2 was not fitted out in the King George V dock by Vosper Thornycroft staff nor was she tugged down from Clydeside!
My grandfather 'sailed down' from Clydeside on QE2 after making a brief call to the dry dock at Greenock to repaint some of the underside of her hull.
I agree that many fixtures and furnishings went missing whilst she was being fitted out at the John Brown shipyard on Clydeside.
QE2 was entirely fitted out on the Clyde with Vosper Thornycroft staff coming up from Southampton to help with the finnishing out.
After a short breaking in cruise to the Canary Islands in Novemeber 1968 the QE2 was delayed in entering Cunard service for 6 months after Cunard refused to accept her over boiler problems and she did not make her maiden voyage to New York from Southampton untill April 30th 1969!
The only time she was ever in the King George V dry dock was for her annual overhauls although her 1972 overhaul was actually alongside the Ocean terminal without having to enter dry dock, this was when her origional penthouse suites were added.
It is a shame I can not add pictures to this site to prove such occurences!