£6m scheme to revamp Southampton Central railway station

£6m scheme to revamp Southampton Central railway station

How the new Southampton Central railway station entrance could look

A new taxi rank outside Costa and pedestrianised zone along Blechynden Terrace

A new plaza with seating and a sheltered amphitheatre in Wyndham Place

First published in Travel Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Politics and business reporter

MULTI million pound proposals have been unveiled to revamp the northern side of Southampton Central railway station.

A public consultation has been launched into a £6m facelift with a new pedestrian-friendly entrance, piazza and drop-off area.

Improvements are also planned for both sides of Wyndham Place, opposite the station, including four new bus stops, a new plaza with seating and a sheltered amphitheatre that could become a venue for events and street performances outside existing shops and cafes.

A giant playable chess board is among the street features being considered by designers.

The taxi rank along Blechynden Terrace would be moved to the other side of the road, next to Costa Coffee, with a new shelter. A toilet would be provided for waiting cabbies.

Ollie Davey, from lead designers Urban Initiatives, said the idea was to create a “gateway” to the city and a “place in its own right”.

Detailed designs will be worked on in the autumn for work to start by next summer.

Council leader Cllr Richard Williams said: “We are keen to see it happen and if we can get the same sort of progress we got on the other side of the station it would be fantastic.”

Transport Secretary Justine Greening last month officially opened a £2.4m revamp of the south side of the station, with a new art deco-style frontage along Western Esplanade, a larger booking hall and waiting room, a new cafe, state-of-the-art information screens and a better drop-off area.

The station, which handles six million passengers a year, was the 250th to get a revamp through Network Rail’s £150m national stations improvement programme.

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11:41am Sun 8 Jul 12

kissmya%% says...

I think your find its the block of flats opp which needs the revamp, What sort of image is that for someone visiting the city .
I think your find its the block of flats opp which needs the revamp, What sort of image is that for someone visiting the city . kissmya%%
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12:24pm Sun 8 Jul 12

arthur dalyrimple says...

the flats and nelson gate carbuncle ,either demolish or paint/clad the concrete ,those two buildings really are the pits and give a very bad first impression.
the flats and nelson gate carbuncle ,either demolish or paint/clad the concrete ,those two buildings really are the pits and give a very bad first impression. arthur dalyrimple
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12:33pm Sun 8 Jul 12

userds5050 says...

Unfortunately Wyndham Court is a listed building so there's not alot you can do aboutit. It is a good example of 1960's modernist, brutalist architecture but not the first thing you want visitors to see when leaving the train station.
Unfortunately Wyndham Court is a listed building so there's not alot you can do aboutit. It is a good example of 1960's modernist, brutalist architecture but not the first thing you want visitors to see when leaving the train station. userds5050
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12:46pm Sun 8 Jul 12

truelysaints says...

userds5050 wrote:
Unfortunately Wyndham Court is a listed building so there's not alot you can do aboutit. It is a good example of 1960's modernist, brutalist architecture but not the first thing you want visitors to see when leaving the train station.
Should be UNLISTED. To my mind nothing of the 1960's architecture deserves preservation.
[quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: Unfortunately Wyndham Court is a listed building so there's not alot you can do aboutit. It is a good example of 1960's modernist, brutalist architecture but not the first thing you want visitors to see when leaving the train station.[/p][/quote]Should be UNLISTED. To my mind nothing of the 1960's architecture deserves preservation. truelysaints
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1:00pm Sun 8 Jul 12

userds5050 says...

An architect friend of mine was saying Le Corbusier was far greater than Erno Goldfinger. I asked what Bond film was Le Corbusier the villain in again?
An architect friend of mine was saying Le Corbusier was far greater than Erno Goldfinger. I asked what Bond film was Le Corbusier the villain in again? userds5050
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1:06pm Sun 8 Jul 12

flatulence hero says...

The station is not the most pleasing to the eye.

But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.
The station is not the most pleasing to the eye. But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments. flatulence hero
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1:26pm Sun 8 Jul 12

dolomiteman says...

Did I read that right, the taxi rank will be moved across the road so everyone has to walk across a busy road with no pedestrian crossing to get a taxi.
and the taxi drivers wil get their own toilet, will the toilet include a sink, personal hygine products and a comb/ shaver along with an advice poster on how to use thsoe products (for the minority of drivers who don't know how to groom themselves)?
Did I read that right, the taxi rank will be moved across the road so everyone has to walk across a busy road with no pedestrian crossing to get a taxi. and the taxi drivers wil get their own toilet, will the toilet include a sink, personal hygine products and a comb/ shaver along with an advice poster on how to use thsoe products (for the minority of drivers who don't know how to groom themselves)? dolomiteman
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1:44pm Sun 8 Jul 12

Daft Kerplunk says...

Any good city needs a good welcome and our train station, and the surrounding 'dead' area doesn't do what's needed if you want to attract people, ideas, investment etc.
Any good city needs a good welcome and our train station, and the surrounding 'dead' area doesn't do what's needed if you want to attract people, ideas, investment etc. Daft Kerplunk
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2:29pm Sun 8 Jul 12

J.P.M says...

flatulence hero wrote:
The station is not the most pleasing to the eye.

But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.
Stupid woman - it was the will of the people, to create a concrete jungle - they did not consider the next generation.
[quote][p][bold]flatulence hero[/bold] wrote: The station is not the most pleasing to the eye. But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.[/p][/quote]Stupid woman - it was the will of the people, to create a concrete jungle - they did not consider the next generation. J.P.M
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2:52pm Sun 8 Jul 12

Good Looking Man About Town says...

userds5050 wrote:
Unfortunately Wyndham Court is a listed building so there's not alot you can do aboutit. It is a good example of 1960's modernist, brutalist architecture but not the first thing you want visitors to see when leaving the train station.
Whoever listed that monstrosity of a building needs shooting. They must have really hated Southampton.
[quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: Unfortunately Wyndham Court is a listed building so there's not alot you can do aboutit. It is a good example of 1960's modernist, brutalist architecture but not the first thing you want visitors to see when leaving the train station.[/p][/quote]Whoever listed that monstrosity of a building needs shooting. They must have really hated Southampton. Good Looking Man About Town
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3:01pm Sun 8 Jul 12

Condor Man says...

It would be nice to walk down the road by the station and not have to dodgy the cabbie effing and jeffing whilst waiting for a fare
It would be nice to walk down the road by the station and not have to dodgy the cabbie effing and jeffing whilst waiting for a fare Condor Man
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3:59pm Sun 8 Jul 12

Maine Lobster says...

If this is being funded solely through Network Rail's own budgets then I can only support it. There are various empty commercial premises in the area and a promotion of this location can only be of benefit. Many countries around the world invest in the quality of the facilities in and around their railway stations. Hopefully this will mirror that.
If this is being funded solely through Network Rail's own budgets then I can only support it. There are various empty commercial premises in the area and a promotion of this location can only be of benefit. Many countries around the world invest in the quality of the facilities in and around their railway stations. Hopefully this will mirror that. Maine Lobster
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4:08pm Sun 8 Jul 12

Ant Smoking MP says...

flatulence hero wrote:
The station is not the most pleasing to the eye.

But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.
So you are happy with the taxpayer subsidising private companies since the Tory privatisation 20 years ago? BR suffered from lack of investment throughout the 80s and we are suffering for that now. By your remarks I assume you are perfectly happy for us taxpayers to continually bail out sh*t private companies!!
[quote][p][bold]flatulence hero[/bold] wrote: The station is not the most pleasing to the eye. But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.[/p][/quote]So you are happy with the taxpayer subsidising private companies since the Tory privatisation 20 years ago? BR suffered from lack of investment throughout the 80s and we are suffering for that now. By your remarks I assume you are perfectly happy for us taxpayers to continually bail out sh*t private companies!! Ant Smoking MP
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5:15pm Sun 8 Jul 12

sotonbusdriver says...

A railway station that works is more important than looks...
Clean welcoming staff is the key to success, not grumpy moaning, miserable staff. Who are Job's worths...
Any building is just that a building.
It's the people who run the building and represent the the Companies that make a place....
A railway station that works is more important than looks... Clean welcoming staff is the key to success, not grumpy moaning, miserable staff. Who are Job's worths... Any building is just that a building. It's the people who run the building and represent the the Companies that make a place.... sotonbusdriver
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5:16pm Sun 8 Jul 12

OceansofRed says...

There's too many miserable staff at that train station. That doesn't help.

The whole area can be revamped but if the staff at the station and the bus drivers remain miserable then it doesn't set a good example.
There's too many miserable staff at that train station. That doesn't help. The whole area can be revamped but if the staff at the station and the bus drivers remain miserable then it doesn't set a good example. OceansofRed
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6:49pm Sun 8 Jul 12

melsm57 says...

Well, they could start by treating visitors to the city with respect and consideration! Two years ago my son and daughter in law were ripped off 65 pounds (cash straight into the pocket of the employee) because they had listened to the Waterloo staff member who told them that, yes indeed this was the train they were booked on. Only to find when the train pulled into Southampton Station that they were '5 minutes early' and thus 'had to pay 65 pounds, right now, in cash, no receipt'. What a welcome to Southampton that was - It was my daughter in law's first visit to the city my son was born in, when they phoned to tell me what had happened, I was ashamed to be a Sotonian!
Well, they could start by treating visitors to the city with respect and consideration! Two years ago my son and daughter in law were ripped off 65 pounds (cash straight into the pocket of the employee) because they had listened to the Waterloo staff member who told them that, yes indeed this was the train they were booked on. Only to find when the train pulled into Southampton Station that they were '5 minutes early' and thus 'had to pay 65 pounds, right now, in cash, no receipt'. What a welcome to Southampton that was - It was my daughter in law's first visit to the city my son was born in, when they phoned to tell me what had happened, I was ashamed to be a Sotonian! melsm57
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7:19pm Sun 8 Jul 12

X Old Bill says...

I was led to believe that Overline House was built, and is owned by, a Private Company.
The parts occupied by the Railway Companies (and formerly British Rail) are only leased.
This was apparently the main reason for not expanding the facilities on the North side - Because BR had sold it off.

Does anyone know?

---------
Also, to melsm57,
I think that you will find that the same thing happens at Basingstoke, Winchester and Bournemouth (and anywhere that might have a ticket barrier.)
I was led to believe that Overline House was built, and is owned by, a Private Company. The parts occupied by the Railway Companies (and formerly British Rail) are only leased. This was apparently the main reason for not expanding the facilities on the North side - Because BR had sold it off. Does anyone know? --------- Also, to melsm57, I think that you will find that the same thing happens at Basingstoke, Winchester and Bournemouth (and anywhere that might have a ticket barrier.) X Old Bill
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7:22pm Sun 8 Jul 12

lordshill loyal says...

never mind revamping the station.revamp oaklands swimming pool mr williams.SAVE OAKLANDS SWIMMING POOL.
never mind revamping the station.revamp oaklands swimming pool mr williams.SAVE OAKLANDS SWIMMING POOL. lordshill loyal
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7:23pm Sun 8 Jul 12

J.P.M says...

x-old bill usually knows EVERYTHING!!
x-old bill usually knows EVERYTHING!! J.P.M
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7:26pm Sun 8 Jul 12

cliffwalker says...

flatulence hero wrote:
The station is not the most pleasing to the eye.

But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.
Is the flatulent one under the misapprehension that Southampton acquired its Central Station sometime after 1948?
[quote][p][bold]flatulence hero[/bold] wrote: The station is not the most pleasing to the eye. But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.[/p][/quote]Is the flatulent one under the misapprehension that Southampton acquired its Central Station sometime after 1948? cliffwalker
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7:45pm Sun 8 Jul 12

X Old Bill says...

cliffwalker wrote:
flatulence hero wrote:
The station is not the most pleasing to the eye.

But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.
Is the flatulent one under the misapprehension that Southampton acquired its Central Station sometime after 1948?
Maybe what is being referred to is the fact that this part of the Railway Station was built in 1967, when Harold Wilson's Government was in office.

That would also be the relevant date when I believe that British Railways sold off (privatised) the North side of the station and then started to pay a private landowner rent for what had been their land.
[quote][p][bold]cliffwalker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flatulence hero[/bold] wrote: The station is not the most pleasing to the eye. But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.[/p][/quote]Is the flatulent one under the misapprehension that Southampton acquired its Central Station sometime after 1948?[/p][/quote]Maybe what is being referred to is the fact that this part of the Railway Station was built in 1967, when Harold Wilson's Government was in office. That would also be the relevant date when I believe that British Railways sold off (privatised) the North side of the station and then started to pay a private landowner rent for what had been their land. X Old Bill
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7:47pm Sun 8 Jul 12

X Old Bill says...

J.P.M wrote:
x-old bill usually knows EVERYTHING!!
Well, can you confirm or refute it?
I am only relating what I was told years ago, by someone who worked in the building.
[quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: x-old bill usually knows EVERYTHING!![/p][/quote]Well, can you confirm or refute it? I am only relating what I was told years ago, by someone who worked in the building. X Old Bill
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8:08pm Sun 8 Jul 12

userds5050 says...

melsm57 wrote:
Well, they could start by treating visitors to the city with respect and consideration! Two years ago my son and daughter in law were ripped off 65 pounds (cash straight into the pocket of the employee) because they had listened to the Waterloo staff member who told them that, yes indeed this was the train they were booked on. Only to find when the train pulled into Southampton Station that they were '5 minutes early' and thus 'had to pay 65 pounds, right now, in cash, no receipt'. What a welcome to Southampton that was - It was my daughter in law's first visit to the city my son was born in, when they phoned to tell me what had happened, I was ashamed to be a Sotonian!
They should simple have refused to pay. What was the guard going to do? They could have asked for a penalty notice which they then have the right to appeal. There was a story in the national press a while back about a couple travelling on a megatrain ticket being charged £50+ each for getting off one stop EARLY at Eastleigh. You do not have to pay any fine up front.
[quote][p][bold]melsm57[/bold] wrote: Well, they could start by treating visitors to the city with respect and consideration! Two years ago my son and daughter in law were ripped off 65 pounds (cash straight into the pocket of the employee) because they had listened to the Waterloo staff member who told them that, yes indeed this was the train they were booked on. Only to find when the train pulled into Southampton Station that they were '5 minutes early' and thus 'had to pay 65 pounds, right now, in cash, no receipt'. What a welcome to Southampton that was - It was my daughter in law's first visit to the city my son was born in, when they phoned to tell me what had happened, I was ashamed to be a Sotonian![/p][/quote]They should simple have refused to pay. What was the guard going to do? They could have asked for a penalty notice which they then have the right to appeal. There was a story in the national press a while back about a couple travelling on a megatrain ticket being charged £50+ each for getting off one stop EARLY at Eastleigh. You do not have to pay any fine up front. userds5050
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9:01pm Sun 8 Jul 12

The Salv says...

They dont need to revamp it, just knock it down and start again. Always thought the Railway Station was Southamptons biggest let down.
They dont need to revamp it, just knock it down and start again. Always thought the Railway Station was Southamptons biggest let down. The Salv
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9:30pm Sun 8 Jul 12

loosehead says...

Are these the revamps the Tory council proposed?
If so great this council isn't scrapping anything touched by the last Tory council & for that I will congratulate them but please give a little credit to the Tories for indeed proposing it in their blue print on the way forward.
Anyway great news
Are these the revamps the Tory council proposed? If so great this council isn't scrapping anything touched by the last Tory council & for that I will congratulate them but please give a little credit to the Tories for indeed proposing it in their blue print on the way forward. Anyway great news loosehead
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10:14pm Sun 8 Jul 12

BadassTash says...

Search cityvisionnetworks on youtube, has a 3d view of what is happening to the city!
Search cityvisionnetworks on youtube, has a 3d view of what is happening to the city! BadassTash
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10:35pm Sun 8 Jul 12

IronLady2010 says...

£6 million, get a local builder in, it will be a fraction of the cost.

Great to see improvements being made, long overdue, well done Royston for setting the wheels in motion!
£6 million, get a local builder in, it will be a fraction of the cost. Great to see improvements being made, long overdue, well done Royston for setting the wheels in motion! IronLady2010
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11:05pm Sun 8 Jul 12

jimmy.little says...

Wyndham court flats are listed buildings, sadly they by law cant do to much to them.
Wyndham court flats are listed buildings, sadly they by law cant do to much to them. jimmy.little
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11:11pm Sun 8 Jul 12

IronLady2010 says...

jimmy.little wrote:
Wyndham court flats are listed buildings, sadly they by law cant do to much to them.
Thinking positive, if the area around the ugly building looks good and is designed correctly, you won't notice the eyesore?

It's all about catching the eye, how often do you look at the first floor of any main street? We don't really! Signs and things take our focus into what they want us to see.
[quote][p][bold]jimmy.little[/bold] wrote: Wyndham court flats are listed buildings, sadly they by law cant do to much to them.[/p][/quote]Thinking positive, if the area around the ugly building looks good and is designed correctly, you won't notice the eyesore? It's all about catching the eye, how often do you look at the first floor of any main street? We don't really! Signs and things take our focus into what they want us to see. IronLady2010
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11:13pm Sun 8 Jul 12

jimmy.little says...

sometimes these laws come back and bite a city in the butt. My friend owns a flat in the court and is on the committee, they would love a face lift to the place.
sometimes these laws come back and bite a city in the butt. My friend owns a flat in the court and is on the committee, they would love a face lift to the place. jimmy.little
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6:34am Mon 9 Jul 12

loosehead says...

jimmy.little wrote:
sometimes these laws come back and bite a city in the butt. My friend owns a flat in the court and is on the committee, they would love a face lift to the place.
Maybe restoring the concrete back to it's new look instead of it's grey colour now would be an improvement?
[quote][p][bold]jimmy.little[/bold] wrote: sometimes these laws come back and bite a city in the butt. My friend owns a flat in the court and is on the committee, they would love a face lift to the place.[/p][/quote]Maybe restoring the concrete back to it's new look instead of it's grey colour now would be an improvement? loosehead
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7:07am Mon 9 Jul 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

... and a few bob on the train service would be good too.
... and a few bob on the train service would be good too. OSPREYSAINT
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8:20am Mon 9 Jul 12

userds5050 says...

loosehead wrote:
jimmy.little wrote:
sometimes these laws come back and bite a city in the butt. My friend owns a flat in the court and is on the committee, they would love a face lift to the place.
Maybe restoring the concrete back to it's new look instead of it's grey colour now would be an improvement?
It probably didn't look new even when it was built. The term brutalist architecture comes from the French Beton brut meaning raw, unfinished concrete. I'm pretty sure Wyndham court is the first such building to look like an ocean liner.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jimmy.little[/bold] wrote: sometimes these laws come back and bite a city in the butt. My friend owns a flat in the court and is on the committee, they would love a face lift to the place.[/p][/quote]Maybe restoring the concrete back to it's new look instead of it's grey colour now would be an improvement?[/p][/quote]It probably didn't look new even when it was built. The term brutalist architecture comes from the French Beton brut meaning raw, unfinished concrete. I'm pretty sure Wyndham court is the first such building to look like an ocean liner. userds5050
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8:24am Mon 9 Jul 12

flatulence hero says...

J.P.M wrote:
flatulence hero wrote:
The station is not the most pleasing to the eye.

But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.
Stupid woman - it was the will of the people, to create a concrete jungle - they did not consider the next generation.
What a stupid transvestite.

It was Labour and Unions that ruined the station at Southampton.
[quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flatulence hero[/bold] wrote: The station is not the most pleasing to the eye. But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.[/p][/quote]Stupid woman - it was the will of the people, to create a concrete jungle - they did not consider the next generation.[/p][/quote]What a stupid transvestite. It was Labour and Unions that ruined the station at Southampton. flatulence hero
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9:17am Mon 9 Jul 12

The Phantomerer says...

flatulence hero wrote:
J.P.M wrote:
flatulence hero wrote:
The station is not the most pleasing to the eye.

But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.
Stupid woman - it was the will of the people, to create a concrete jungle - they did not consider the next generation.
What a stupid transvestite.

It was Labour and Unions that ruined the station at Southampton.
Didn't the revamp of the station come about because Lord Adonis said the it was crap?
[quote][p][bold]flatulence hero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flatulence hero[/bold] wrote: The station is not the most pleasing to the eye. But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.[/p][/quote]Stupid woman - it was the will of the people, to create a concrete jungle - they did not consider the next generation.[/p][/quote]What a stupid transvestite. It was Labour and Unions that ruined the station at Southampton.[/p][/quote]Didn't the revamp of the station come about because Lord Adonis said the it was crap? The Phantomerer
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9:19am Mon 9 Jul 12

The Phantomerer says...

The Phantomerer wrote:
flatulence hero wrote:
J.P.M wrote:
flatulence hero wrote:
The station is not the most pleasing to the eye.

But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.
Stupid woman - it was the will of the people, to create a concrete jungle - they did not consider the next generation.
What a stupid transvestite.

It was Labour and Unions that ruined the station at Southampton.
Didn't the revamp of the station come about because Lord Adonis said the it was crap?
Please excuse the erroneous 'the'
[quote][p][bold]The Phantomerer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flatulence hero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flatulence hero[/bold] wrote: The station is not the most pleasing to the eye. But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.[/p][/quote]Stupid woman - it was the will of the people, to create a concrete jungle - they did not consider the next generation.[/p][/quote]What a stupid transvestite. It was Labour and Unions that ruined the station at Southampton.[/p][/quote]Didn't the revamp of the station come about because Lord Adonis said the it was crap?[/p][/quote]Please excuse the erroneous 'the' The Phantomerer
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11:58am Mon 9 Jul 12

southy says...

J.P.M wrote:
flatulence hero wrote:
The station is not the most pleasing to the eye.

But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.
Stupid woman - it was the will of the people, to create a concrete jungle - they did not consider the next generation.
There was a Train station there before there was a Labour Party.
[quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flatulence hero[/bold] wrote: The station is not the most pleasing to the eye. But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.[/p][/quote]Stupid woman - it was the will of the people, to create a concrete jungle - they did not consider the next generation.[/p][/quote]There was a Train station there before there was a Labour Party. southy
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12:01pm Mon 9 Jul 12

southy says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
A railway station that works is more important than looks...
Clean welcoming staff is the key to success, not grumpy moaning, miserable staff. Who are Job's worths...
Any building is just that a building.
It's the people who run the building and represent the the Companies that make a place....
Well if they did not unstaff a work place, maybe the workers might be a lot happier
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: A railway station that works is more important than looks... Clean welcoming staff is the key to success, not grumpy moaning, miserable staff. Who are Job's worths... Any building is just that a building. It's the people who run the building and represent the the Companies that make a place....[/p][/quote]Well if they did not unstaff a work place, maybe the workers might be a lot happier southy
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12:04pm Mon 9 Jul 12

southy says...

flatulence hero wrote:
J.P.M wrote:
flatulence hero wrote:
The station is not the most pleasing to the eye.

But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.
Stupid woman - it was the will of the people, to create a concrete jungle - they did not consider the next generation.
What a stupid transvestite.

It was Labour and Unions that ruined the station at Southampton.
Ig it was not for the old type Labour and Unions if you like, you would still have the 1920's look station, totally gruby and rundown.
[quote][p][bold]flatulence hero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flatulence hero[/bold] wrote: The station is not the most pleasing to the eye. But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.[/p][/quote]Stupid woman - it was the will of the people, to create a concrete jungle - they did not consider the next generation.[/p][/quote]What a stupid transvestite. It was Labour and Unions that ruined the station at Southampton.[/p][/quote]Ig it was not for the old type Labour and Unions if you like, you would still have the 1920's look station, totally gruby and rundown. southy
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12:10pm Mon 9 Jul 12

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
£6 million, get a local builder in, it will be a fraction of the cost.

Great to see improvements being made, long overdue, well done Royston for setting the wheels in motion!
Royston did not set the wheels in motion, it was of what some one said when getting of the train and then complained to Rail line (old BR), that set this in motion, the council just jump on the band wagon to make them look good
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: £6 million, get a local builder in, it will be a fraction of the cost. Great to see improvements being made, long overdue, well done Royston for setting the wheels in motion![/p][/quote]Royston did not set the wheels in motion, it was of what some one said when getting of the train and then complained to Rail line (old BR), that set this in motion, the council just jump on the band wagon to make them look good southy
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12:15pm Mon 9 Jul 12

southy says...

X Old Bill wrote:
cliffwalker wrote:
flatulence hero wrote:
The station is not the most pleasing to the eye.

But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.
Is the flatulent one under the misapprehension that Southampton acquired its Central Station sometime after 1948?
Maybe what is being referred to is the fact that this part of the Railway Station was built in 1967, when Harold Wilson's Government was in office.

That would also be the relevant date when I believe that British Railways sold off (privatised) the North side of the station and then started to pay a private landowner rent for what had been their land.
Nearly old bill, part of the land that the station is built on (when they extended it) belongs to the city and still do.
[quote][p][bold]X Old Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cliffwalker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flatulence hero[/bold] wrote: The station is not the most pleasing to the eye. But then this is the legacy of British Rail and Labour Governments.[/p][/quote]Is the flatulent one under the misapprehension that Southampton acquired its Central Station sometime after 1948?[/p][/quote]Maybe what is being referred to is the fact that this part of the Railway Station was built in 1967, when Harold Wilson's Government was in office. That would also be the relevant date when I believe that British Railways sold off (privatised) the North side of the station and then started to pay a private landowner rent for what had been their land.[/p][/quote]Nearly old bill, part of the land that the station is built on (when they extended it) belongs to the city and still do. southy
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12:21pm Mon 9 Jul 12

stay local says...

Am I missing something here is the Echo report from the 11th of JUne.........THE transport secretary today unveiled a £2.4m revamp of Southampton’s “shabby” central train station.

Justine Greening was given a tour the station, which has been completely refurbished with improved passenger facilities including a new art deco style frontage, an enlarged booking hall and waiting room, state-of-the-art information screens and an improved drop-off area.

So why is it being done again just three weeks after it was last done??
Am I missing something here is the Echo report from the 11th of JUne.........THE transport secretary today unveiled a £2.4m revamp of Southampton’s “shabby” central train station. Justine Greening was given a tour the station, which has been completely refurbished with improved passenger facilities including a new art deco style frontage, an enlarged booking hall and waiting room, state-of-the-art information screens and an improved drop-off area. So why is it being done again just three weeks after it was last done?? stay local
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12:28pm Mon 9 Jul 12

loosehead says...

I would like to congratulate the Conservative Party for having the foresight to have these schemes alongside many others in their blueprint for the Future brochure that any one could see before the local elections & many Labour/union supporters slated.
I also would like to thank this Labour administration for carrying on with the good work of the Tory Council ( last council).
I hope you continue to proceed with all those developments in the tory blueprint
I would like to congratulate the Conservative Party for having the foresight to have these schemes alongside many others in their blueprint for the Future brochure that any one could see before the local elections & many Labour/union supporters slated. I also would like to thank this Labour administration for carrying on with the good work of the Tory Council ( last council). I hope you continue to proceed with all those developments in the tory blueprint loosehead
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12:32pm Mon 9 Jul 12

loosehead says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
£6 million, get a local builder in, it will be a fraction of the cost.

Great to see improvements being made, long overdue, well done Royston for setting the wheels in motion!
Royston did not set the wheels in motion, it was of what some one said when getting of the train and then complained to Rail line (old BR), that set this in motion, the council just jump on the band wagon to make them look good
Southy come on tell the truth!
Blueprint for the Future was a Tory plan for this city which included the Train station & surrounding areas development so please give credit where credit's due or didn't the Tory council plan anything?
Maybe they weren't going to expand Mayflower Park or build a new Fruit & Vegetable Market?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: £6 million, get a local builder in, it will be a fraction of the cost. Great to see improvements being made, long overdue, well done Royston for setting the wheels in motion![/p][/quote]Royston did not set the wheels in motion, it was of what some one said when getting of the train and then complained to Rail line (old BR), that set this in motion, the council just jump on the band wagon to make them look good[/p][/quote]Southy come on tell the truth! Blueprint for the Future was a Tory plan for this city which included the Train station & surrounding areas development so please give credit where credit's due or didn't the Tory council plan anything? Maybe they weren't going to expand Mayflower Park or build a new Fruit & Vegetable Market? loosehead
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1:35pm Mon 9 Jul 12

melsm57 says...

userds5050 wrote:
melsm57 wrote: Well, they could start by treating visitors to the city with respect and consideration! Two years ago my son and daughter in law were ripped off 65 pounds (cash straight into the pocket of the employee) because they had listened to the Waterloo staff member who told them that, yes indeed this was the train they were booked on. Only to find when the train pulled into Southampton Station that they were '5 minutes early' and thus 'had to pay 65 pounds, right now, in cash, no receipt'. What a welcome to Southampton that was - It was my daughter in law's first visit to the city my son was born in, when they phoned to tell me what had happened, I was ashamed to be a Sotonian!
They should simple have refused to pay. What was the guard going to do? They could have asked for a penalty notice which they then have the right to appeal. There was a story in the national press a while back about a couple travelling on a megatrain ticket being charged £50+ each for getting off one stop EARLY at Eastleigh. You do not have to pay any fine up front.
Well, they were visitors to this country, they had no idea about the 'rules' and were brow beaten into paying upfront. I wonder just how many other unsuspecting visitors were coerced into paying. Yes I recall the other incident you mention it happened not that long after the one I'm referring to.
[quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]melsm57[/bold] wrote: Well, they could start by treating visitors to the city with respect and consideration! Two years ago my son and daughter in law were ripped off 65 pounds (cash straight into the pocket of the employee) because they had listened to the Waterloo staff member who told them that, yes indeed this was the train they were booked on. Only to find when the train pulled into Southampton Station that they were '5 minutes early' and thus 'had to pay 65 pounds, right now, in cash, no receipt'. What a welcome to Southampton that was - It was my daughter in law's first visit to the city my son was born in, when they phoned to tell me what had happened, I was ashamed to be a Sotonian![/p][/quote]They should simple have refused to pay. What was the guard going to do? They could have asked for a penalty notice which they then have the right to appeal. There was a story in the national press a while back about a couple travelling on a megatrain ticket being charged £50+ each for getting off one stop EARLY at Eastleigh. You do not have to pay any fine up front.[/p][/quote]Well, they were visitors to this country, they had no idea about the 'rules' and were brow beaten into paying upfront. I wonder just how many other unsuspecting visitors were coerced into paying. Yes I recall the other incident you mention it happened not that long after the one I'm referring to. melsm57
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1:46pm Mon 9 Jul 12

Lone Ranger. says...

loosehead wrote:
I would like to congratulate the Conservative Party for having the foresight to have these schemes alongside many others in their blueprint for the Future brochure that any one could see before the local elections & many Labour/union supporters slated.
I also would like to thank this Labour administration for carrying on with the good work of the Tory Council ( last council).
I hope you continue to proceed with all those developments in the tory blueprint
I would like to congratulate the Coservatives as well for continuing the the 20/20 project that was conceived 8 years ago by the Labour council.
.
In addition i would also like to congratulate loosehead on his endeavour to make the Tories in Southampton appear to be better than they really are.
.
It really does brighten my day to almost feel the hate in his posts when he realises that his beloved party are failing nationally and failed abysmally locally ......
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I would like to congratulate the Conservative Party for having the foresight to have these schemes alongside many others in their blueprint for the Future brochure that any one could see before the local elections & many Labour/union supporters slated. I also would like to thank this Labour administration for carrying on with the good work of the Tory Council ( last council). I hope you continue to proceed with all those developments in the tory blueprint[/p][/quote]I would like to congratulate the Coservatives as well for continuing the the 20/20 project that was conceived 8 years ago by the Labour council. . In addition i would also like to congratulate loosehead on his endeavour to make the Tories in Southampton appear to be better than they really are. . It really does brighten my day to almost feel the hate in his posts when he realises that his beloved party are failing nationally and failed abysmally locally ...... Lone Ranger.
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1:48pm Mon 9 Jul 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

As far as the building is concerned, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, the building of the current monstrosity was done at a time when function, rather than looks, dictated the design, the main credit now should go to Stagecoach rather than Political Parties, they want to improve their image hence the desire to rid us of this carbuncle!
As far as the building is concerned, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, the building of the current monstrosity was done at a time when function, rather than looks, dictated the design, the main credit now should go to Stagecoach rather than Political Parties, they want to improve their image hence the desire to rid us of this carbuncle! OSPREYSAINT
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2:36pm Mon 9 Jul 12

southy says...

loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
£6 million, get a local builder in, it will be a fraction of the cost.

Great to see improvements being made, long overdue, well done Royston for setting the wheels in motion!
Royston did not set the wheels in motion, it was of what some one said when getting of the train and then complained to Rail line (old BR), that set this in motion, the council just jump on the band wagon to make them look good
Southy come on tell the truth!
Blueprint for the Future was a Tory plan for this city which included the Train station & surrounding areas development so please give credit where credit's due or didn't the Tory council plan anything?
Maybe they weren't going to expand Mayflower Park or build a new Fruit & Vegetable Market?
It is the truth Loose, it was not a blue print at all till after that Lord said what he though of southampton Train station and complained to Rail line, and when rail line said they will improve on what they owned and willing to put so much money into it, it force the City Council to pay up on the part that was standing on council land for improvements.
The only reason they want to extend Mayflower park is to stop people rights to the water edge and to stop local river users of landing on Mayflower wall, it was not in the interest for local people, only for his rich friend to be able to take away full public use.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: £6 million, get a local builder in, it will be a fraction of the cost. Great to see improvements being made, long overdue, well done Royston for setting the wheels in motion![/p][/quote]Royston did not set the wheels in motion, it was of what some one said when getting of the train and then complained to Rail line (old BR), that set this in motion, the council just jump on the band wagon to make them look good[/p][/quote]Southy come on tell the truth! Blueprint for the Future was a Tory plan for this city which included the Train station & surrounding areas development so please give credit where credit's due or didn't the Tory council plan anything? Maybe they weren't going to expand Mayflower Park or build a new Fruit & Vegetable Market?[/p][/quote]It is the truth Loose, it was not a blue print at all till after that Lord said what he though of southampton Train station and complained to Rail line, and when rail line said they will improve on what they owned and willing to put so much money into it, it force the City Council to pay up on the part that was standing on council land for improvements. The only reason they want to extend Mayflower park is to stop people rights to the water edge and to stop local river users of landing on Mayflower wall, it was not in the interest for local people, only for his rich friend to be able to take away full public use. southy
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3:02pm Mon 9 Jul 12

Sovietobserver says...

stay local wrote:
Am I missing something here is the Echo report from the 11th of JUne.........THE transport secretary today unveiled a £2.4m revamp of Southampton’s “shabby” central train station.

Justine Greening was given a tour the station, which has been completely refurbished with improved passenger facilities including a new art deco style frontage, an enlarged booking hall and waiting room, state-of-the-art information screens and an improved drop-off area.

So why is it being done again just three weeks after it was last done??
The report of 11th June referred to the South side of the station.
This report refers to the proposals for the North side as well as mentioning last months unveiling.
Please read more carefully.
[quote][p][bold]stay local[/bold] wrote: Am I missing something here is the Echo report from the 11th of JUne.........THE transport secretary today unveiled a £2.4m revamp of Southampton’s “shabby” central train station. Justine Greening was given a tour the station, which has been completely refurbished with improved passenger facilities including a new art deco style frontage, an enlarged booking hall and waiting room, state-of-the-art information screens and an improved drop-off area. So why is it being done again just three weeks after it was last done??[/p][/quote]The report of 11th June referred to the South side of the station. This report refers to the proposals for the North side as well as mentioning last months unveiling. Please read more carefully. Sovietobserver
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4:15pm Mon 9 Jul 12

loosehead says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
I would like to congratulate the Conservative Party for having the foresight to have these schemes alongside many others in their blueprint for the Future brochure that any one could see before the local elections & many Labour/union supporters slated.
I also would like to thank this Labour administration for carrying on with the good work of the Tory Council ( last council).
I hope you continue to proceed with all those developments in the tory blueprint
I would like to congratulate the Coservatives as well for continuing the the 20/20 project that was conceived 8 years ago by the Labour council.
.
In addition i would also like to congratulate loosehead on his endeavour to make the Tories in Southampton appear to be better than they really are.
.
It really does brighten my day to almost feel the hate in his posts when he realises that his beloved party are failing nationally and failed abysmally locally ......
more Labour lies?
Taking credit for Tory initiatives?
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I would like to congratulate the Conservative Party for having the foresight to have these schemes alongside many others in their blueprint for the Future brochure that any one could see before the local elections & many Labour/union supporters slated. I also would like to thank this Labour administration for carrying on with the good work of the Tory Council ( last council). I hope you continue to proceed with all those developments in the tory blueprint[/p][/quote]I would like to congratulate the Coservatives as well for continuing the the 20/20 project that was conceived 8 years ago by the Labour council. . In addition i would also like to congratulate loosehead on his endeavour to make the Tories in Southampton appear to be better than they really are. . It really does brighten my day to almost feel the hate in his posts when he realises that his beloved party are failing nationally and failed abysmally locally ......[/p][/quote]more Labour lies? Taking credit for Tory initiatives? loosehead
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4:25pm Mon 9 Jul 12

Lone Ranger. says...

loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
I would like to congratulate the Conservative Party for having the foresight to have these schemes alongside many others in their blueprint for the Future brochure that any one could see before the local elections & many Labour/union supporters slated.
I also would like to thank this Labour administration for carrying on with the good work of the Tory Council ( last council).
I hope you continue to proceed with all those developments in the tory blueprint
I would like to congratulate the Coservatives as well for continuing the the 20/20 project that was conceived 8 years ago by the Labour council.
.
In addition i would also like to congratulate loosehead on his endeavour to make the Tories in Southampton appear to be better than they really are.
.
It really does brighten my day to almost feel the hate in his posts when he realises that his beloved party are failing nationally and failed abysmally locally ......
more Labour lies?
Taking credit for Tory initiatives?
No its all in print in the Echo if you want to look for it.
.
I leave the "tall stories" to you.
.
I would have cut and pasted for you but cant be bothered ...... You have a look
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I would like to congratulate the Conservative Party for having the foresight to have these schemes alongside many others in their blueprint for the Future brochure that any one could see before the local elections & many Labour/union supporters slated. I also would like to thank this Labour administration for carrying on with the good work of the Tory Council ( last council). I hope you continue to proceed with all those developments in the tory blueprint[/p][/quote]I would like to congratulate the Coservatives as well for continuing the the 20/20 project that was conceived 8 years ago by the Labour council. . In addition i would also like to congratulate loosehead on his endeavour to make the Tories in Southampton appear to be better than they really are. . It really does brighten my day to almost feel the hate in his posts when he realises that his beloved party are failing nationally and failed abysmally locally ......[/p][/quote]more Labour lies? Taking credit for Tory initiatives?[/p][/quote]No its all in print in the Echo if you want to look for it. . I leave the "tall stories" to you. . I would have cut and pasted for you but cant be bothered ...... You have a look Lone Ranger.
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5:26pm Mon 9 Jul 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
I would like to congratulate the Conservative Party for having the foresight to have these schemes alongside many others in their blueprint for the Future brochure that any one could see before the local elections & many Labour/union supporters slated.
I also would like to thank this Labour administration for carrying on with the good work of the Tory Council ( last council).
I hope you continue to proceed with all those developments in the tory blueprint
I would like to congratulate the Coservatives as well for continuing the the 20/20 project that was conceived 8 years ago by the Labour council.
.
In addition i would also like to congratulate loosehead on his endeavour to make the Tories in Southampton appear to be better than they really are.
.
It really does brighten my day to almost feel the hate in his posts when he realises that his beloved party are failing nationally and failed abysmally locally ......
more Labour lies?
Taking credit for Tory initiatives?
Your OCD about Labour is bringing you into disrepute!
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I would like to congratulate the Conservative Party for having the foresight to have these schemes alongside many others in their blueprint for the Future brochure that any one could see before the local elections & many Labour/union supporters slated. I also would like to thank this Labour administration for carrying on with the good work of the Tory Council ( last council). I hope you continue to proceed with all those developments in the tory blueprint[/p][/quote]I would like to congratulate the Coservatives as well for continuing the the 20/20 project that was conceived 8 years ago by the Labour council. . In addition i would also like to congratulate loosehead on his endeavour to make the Tories in Southampton appear to be better than they really are. . It really does brighten my day to almost feel the hate in his posts when he realises that his beloved party are failing nationally and failed abysmally locally ......[/p][/quote]more Labour lies? Taking credit for Tory initiatives?[/p][/quote]Your OCD about Labour is bringing you into disrepute! OSPREYSAINT
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6:29pm Mon 9 Jul 12

allsaintsnocurves says...

Laws can be changed particularly if it is the regeneration of an area that requires it. The flats near the station if knocked down would provide a massive opportunity in transforming that part of town into something a city the size of Southampton should have.

The plans for the city are still a work in progress and seem to be changing all the time. What will actually come to fruition and what is being proposed may be very different.
Laws can be changed particularly if it is the regeneration of an area that requires it. The flats near the station if knocked down would provide a massive opportunity in transforming that part of town into something a city the size of Southampton should have. The plans for the city are still a work in progress and seem to be changing all the time. What will actually come to fruition and what is being proposed may be very different. allsaintsnocurves
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6:45pm Mon 9 Jul 12

X Old Bill says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
£6 million, get a local builder in, it will be a fraction of the cost.

Great to see improvements being made, long overdue, well done Royston for setting the wheels in motion!
Royston did not set the wheels in motion, it was of what some one said when getting of the train and then complained to Rail line (old BR), that set this in motion, the council just jump on the band wagon to make them look good
Rail line? Isn't that a firm that sells tickets on the internet?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: £6 million, get a local builder in, it will be a fraction of the cost. Great to see improvements being made, long overdue, well done Royston for setting the wheels in motion![/p][/quote]Royston did not set the wheels in motion, it was of what some one said when getting of the train and then complained to Rail line (old BR), that set this in motion, the council just jump on the band wagon to make them look good[/p][/quote]Rail line? Isn't that a firm that sells tickets on the internet? X Old Bill
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6:53pm Mon 9 Jul 12

X Old Bill says...

X Old Bill wrote:
I was led to believe that Overline House was built, and is owned by, a Private Company.
The parts occupied by the Railway Companies (and formerly British Rail) are only leased.
This was apparently the main reason for not expanding the facilities on the North side - Because BR had sold it off.

Does anyone know?

---------
Also, to melsm57,
I think that you will find that the same thing happens at Basingstoke, Winchester and Bournemouth (and anywhere that might have a ticket barrier.)
Apart from Southy's obfuscation, Can anyone say for sure who owns Overline House.

I am fairly certain that it is NOT owned by:
The Railway infrastructure company (Network Rail - formerly Railtrack).
South West trains.
Southampton City Council.
Any of the Current occupants.
[quote][p][bold]X Old Bill[/bold] wrote: I was led to believe that Overline House was built, and is owned by, a Private Company. The parts occupied by the Railway Companies (and formerly British Rail) are only leased. This was apparently the main reason for not expanding the facilities on the North side - Because BR had sold it off. Does anyone know? --------- Also, to melsm57, I think that you will find that the same thing happens at Basingstoke, Winchester and Bournemouth (and anywhere that might have a ticket barrier.)[/p][/quote]Apart from Southy's obfuscation, Can anyone say for sure who owns Overline House. I am fairly certain that it is NOT owned by: The Railway infrastructure company (Network Rail - formerly Railtrack). South West trains. Southampton City Council. Any of the Current occupants. X Old Bill
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7:18pm Mon 9 Jul 12

Lone Ranger. says...

X Old Bill wrote:
X Old Bill wrote:
I was led to believe that Overline House was built, and is owned by, a Private Company.
The parts occupied by the Railway Companies (and formerly British Rail) are only leased.
This was apparently the main reason for not expanding the facilities on the North side - Because BR had sold it off.

Does anyone know?

---------
Also, to melsm57,
I think that you will find that the same thing happens at Basingstoke, Winchester and Bournemouth (and anywhere that might have a ticket barrier.)
Apart from Southy's obfuscation, Can anyone say for sure who owns Overline House.

I am fairly certain that it is NOT owned by:
The Railway infrastructure company (Network Rail - formerly Railtrack).
South West trains.
Southampton City Council.
Any of the Current occupants.
I always thought that Overline house was built by British Rail (or whatever name) as a Southern Office.
.
In time it has been refurbished a couple of times and sub let into smaller individual offices. I think that the Tax man is/was there.
.
From what i am told!! . it is still owned by the railway ... so i think Network Rail
[quote][p][bold]X Old Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]X Old Bill[/bold] wrote: I was led to believe that Overline House was built, and is owned by, a Private Company. The parts occupied by the Railway Companies (and formerly British Rail) are only leased. This was apparently the main reason for not expanding the facilities on the North side - Because BR had sold it off. Does anyone know? --------- Also, to melsm57, I think that you will find that the same thing happens at Basingstoke, Winchester and Bournemouth (and anywhere that might have a ticket barrier.)[/p][/quote]Apart from Southy's obfuscation, Can anyone say for sure who owns Overline House. I am fairly certain that it is NOT owned by: The Railway infrastructure company (Network Rail - formerly Railtrack). South West trains. Southampton City Council. Any of the Current occupants.[/p][/quote]I always thought that Overline house was built by British Rail (or whatever name) as a Southern Office. . In time it has been refurbished a couple of times and sub let into smaller individual offices. I think that the Tax man is/was there. . From what i am told!! . it is still owned by the railway ... so i think Network Rail Lone Ranger.
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7:46pm Mon 9 Jul 12

X Old Bill says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
X Old Bill wrote:
X Old Bill wrote:
I was led to believe that Overline House was built, and is owned by, a Private Company.
The parts occupied by the Railway Companies (and formerly British Rail) are only leased.
This was apparently the main reason for not expanding the facilities on the North side - Because BR had sold it off.

Does anyone know?

---------
Also, to melsm57,
I think that you will find that the same thing happens at Basingstoke, Winchester and Bournemouth (and anywhere that might have a ticket barrier.)
Apart from Southy's obfuscation, Can anyone say for sure who owns Overline House.

I am fairly certain that it is NOT owned by:
The Railway infrastructure company (Network Rail - formerly Railtrack).
South West trains.
Southampton City Council.
Any of the Current occupants.
I always thought that Overline house was built by British Rail (or whatever name) as a Southern Office.
.
In time it has been refurbished a couple of times and sub let into smaller individual offices. I think that the Tax man is/was there.
.
From what i am told!! . it is still owned by the railway ... so i think Network Rail
My reason for doubting is from what I was told, in that some offices connected with the railway had to have their lease renewed about 8 or 9 years ago and the department were being told that they would have to find new accommodation actually on the station if it was not renewed.
It seems unlikely that Network Rail would cause problems of that nature - Threatening to evict part of the Railway from 'railway premises' seems odd.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]X Old Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]X Old Bill[/bold] wrote: I was led to believe that Overline House was built, and is owned by, a Private Company. The parts occupied by the Railway Companies (and formerly British Rail) are only leased. This was apparently the main reason for not expanding the facilities on the North side - Because BR had sold it off. Does anyone know? --------- Also, to melsm57, I think that you will find that the same thing happens at Basingstoke, Winchester and Bournemouth (and anywhere that might have a ticket barrier.)[/p][/quote]Apart from Southy's obfuscation, Can anyone say for sure who owns Overline House. I am fairly certain that it is NOT owned by: The Railway infrastructure company (Network Rail - formerly Railtrack). South West trains. Southampton City Council. Any of the Current occupants.[/p][/quote]I always thought that Overline house was built by British Rail (or whatever name) as a Southern Office. . In time it has been refurbished a couple of times and sub let into smaller individual offices. I think that the Tax man is/was there. . From what i am told!! . it is still owned by the railway ... so i think Network Rail[/p][/quote]My reason for doubting is from what I was told, in that some offices connected with the railway had to have their lease renewed about 8 or 9 years ago and the department were being told that they would have to find new accommodation actually on the station if it was not renewed. It seems unlikely that Network Rail would cause problems of that nature - Threatening to evict part of the Railway from 'railway premises' seems odd. X Old Bill
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8:29pm Mon 9 Jul 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
X Old Bill wrote:
X Old Bill wrote:
I was led to believe that Overline House was built, and is owned by, a Private Company.
The parts occupied by the Railway Companies (and formerly British Rail) are only leased.
This was apparently the main reason for not expanding the facilities on the North side - Because BR had sold it off.

Does anyone know?

---------
Also, to melsm57,
I think that you will find that the same thing happens at Basingstoke, Winchester and Bournemouth (and anywhere that might have a ticket barrier.)
Apart from Southy's obfuscation, Can anyone say for sure who owns Overline House.

I am fairly certain that it is NOT owned by:
The Railway infrastructure company (Network Rail - formerly Railtrack).
South West trains.
Southampton City Council.
Any of the Current occupants.
I always thought that Overline house was built by British Rail (or whatever name) as a Southern Office.
.
In time it has been refurbished a couple of times and sub let into smaller individual offices. I think that the Tax man is/was there.
.
From what i am told!! . it is still owned by the railway ... so i think Network Rail
Network Rail supply the infrastructure to run the trains nothing to do with the Station building itself, that is Stagecoach South West Trains little baby. However NR have joined in the Partnership which is spending money on improving things but I guess that is to protect their access to their equipment.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]X Old Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]X Old Bill[/bold] wrote: I was led to believe that Overline House was built, and is owned by, a Private Company. The parts occupied by the Railway Companies (and formerly British Rail) are only leased. This was apparently the main reason for not expanding the facilities on the North side - Because BR had sold it off. Does anyone know? --------- Also, to melsm57, I think that you will find that the same thing happens at Basingstoke, Winchester and Bournemouth (and anywhere that might have a ticket barrier.)[/p][/quote]Apart from Southy's obfuscation, Can anyone say for sure who owns Overline House. I am fairly certain that it is NOT owned by: The Railway infrastructure company (Network Rail - formerly Railtrack). South West trains. Southampton City Council. Any of the Current occupants.[/p][/quote]I always thought that Overline house was built by British Rail (or whatever name) as a Southern Office. . In time it has been refurbished a couple of times and sub let into smaller individual offices. I think that the Tax man is/was there. . From what i am told!! . it is still owned by the railway ... so i think Network Rail[/p][/quote]Network Rail supply the infrastructure to run the trains nothing to do with the Station building itself, that is Stagecoach South West Trains little baby. However NR have joined in the Partnership which is spending money on improving things but I guess that is to protect their access to their equipment. OSPREYSAINT
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8:43pm Mon 9 Jul 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Network Rail and South West Trains have formed an Alliance in order to work more closely together on improving the Railway, nowadays a lot of the problems being experienced, have been solely due to the fragmentation of the Railway system. I don't even know or care which Political Party was to blame, but that really is water under the bridge, this is the 21st Century and it is time for the Railways to get back together as one institution to manage everything. This Alliance is the first part of the recommendation from the McNulty Report and hopefully will help to improve things, but I am not holding my breath yet.
Network Rail and South West Trains have formed an Alliance in order to work more closely together on improving the Railway, nowadays a lot of the problems being experienced, have been solely due to the fragmentation of the Railway system. I don't even know or care which Political Party was to blame, but that really is water under the bridge, this is the 21st Century and it is time for the Railways to get back together as one institution to manage everything. This Alliance is the first part of the recommendation from the McNulty Report and hopefully will help to improve things, but I am not holding my breath yet. OSPREYSAINT
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9:06pm Mon 9 Jul 12

loosehead says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
I would like to congratulate the Conservative Party for having the foresight to have these schemes alongside many others in their blueprint for the Future brochure that any one could see before the local elections & many Labour/union supporters slated.
I also would like to thank this Labour administration for carrying on with the good work of the Tory Council ( last council).
I hope you continue to proceed with all those developments in the tory blueprint
I would like to congratulate the Coservatives as well for continuing the the 20/20 project that was conceived 8 years ago by the Labour council.
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In addition i would also like to congratulate loosehead on his endeavour to make the Tories in Southampton appear to be better than they really are.
.
It really does brighten my day to almost feel the hate in his posts when he realises that his beloved party are failing nationally and failed abysmally locally ......
more Labour lies?
Taking credit for Tory initiatives?
Your OCD about Labour is bringing you into disrepute!
osprey I know that the Last council brought out a brochure called blueprint for the `Future in which they showed areas for development.
one of these was the train Station area.
now many posts slate the concrete building which is across the road from the station but has any one asked a resident if they would like to see them knocked down?
Yes I would love to see a great looking building put there but do the looks make it a great living space?
I just would like to hear what those residents actually think of their homes?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I would like to congratulate the Conservative Party for having the foresight to have these schemes alongside many others in their blueprint for the Future brochure that any one could see before the local elections & many Labour/union supporters slated. I also would like to thank this Labour administration for carrying on with the good work of the Tory Council ( last council). I hope you continue to proceed with all those developments in the tory blueprint[/p][/quote]I would like to congratulate the Coservatives as well for continuing the the 20/20 project that was conceived 8 years ago by the Labour council. . In addition i would also like to congratulate loosehead on his endeavour to make the Tories in Southampton appear to be better than they really are. . It really does brighten my day to almost feel the hate in his posts when he realises that his beloved party are failing nationally and failed abysmally locally ......[/p][/quote]more Labour lies? Taking credit for Tory initiatives?[/p][/quote]Your OCD about Labour is bringing you into disrepute![/p][/quote]osprey I know that the Last council brought out a brochure called blueprint for the `Future in which they showed areas for development. one of these was the train Station area. now many posts slate the concrete building which is across the road from the station but has any one asked a resident if they would like to see them knocked down? Yes I would love to see a great looking building put there but do the looks make it a great living space? I just would like to hear what those residents actually think of their homes? loosehead
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9:24pm Mon 9 Jul 12

loosehead says...

This was printed on the 25th of February
RESIDENTS got the chance to have their say on a visionary masterplan aimed at bringing in more than 24,000 jobs and £3 billion of investment into Southampton.

A new world class waterfront, a remastered city centre and a "transformed railway station" are just some of the developments residents cast their eyes over as Southampton City Council tried to gauge reaction to its plans for the city over the next 25 years.
So as I've said this was a Tory concept or don't you believe what you read in this paper?
This was printed on the 25th of February RESIDENTS got the chance to have their say on a visionary masterplan aimed at bringing in more than 24,000 jobs and £3 billion of investment into Southampton. A new world class waterfront, a remastered city centre and a "transformed railway station" are just some of the developments residents cast their eyes over as Southampton City Council tried to gauge reaction to its plans for the city over the next 25 years. So as I've said this was a Tory concept or don't you believe what you read in this paper? loosehead
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3:48am Tue 10 Jul 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

loosehead wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote: I would like to congratulate the Conservative Party for having the foresight to have these schemes alongside many others in their blueprint for the Future brochure that any one could see before the local elections & many Labour/union supporters slated. I also would like to thank this Labour administration for carrying on with the good work of the Tory Council ( last council). I hope you continue to proceed with all those developments in the tory blueprint
I would like to congratulate the Coservatives as well for continuing the the 20/20 project that was conceived 8 years ago by the Labour council. . In addition i would also like to congratulate loosehead on his endeavour to make the Tories in Southampton appear to be better than they really are. . It really does brighten my day to almost feel the hate in his posts when he realises that his beloved party are failing nationally and failed abysmally locally ......
more Labour lies? Taking credit for Tory initiatives?
Your OCD about Labour is bringing you into disrepute!
osprey I know that the Last council brought out a brochure called blueprint for the `Future in which they showed areas for development. one of these was the train Station area. now many posts slate the concrete building which is across the road from the station but has any one asked a resident if they would like to see them knocked down? Yes I would love to see a great looking building put there but do the looks make it a great living space? I just would like to hear what those residents actually think of their homes?
LH I have no issue with that particular building, it is what it is and symptomatic of the period that it was built, I have no idea of what particular party label was responsible at the time and don't consider that important either, as long as a Council is doing the job that it was elected to do, is doesn't matter a jot who their leaders are or what colour their allegiances are. Political dogma gets in the way of the real issues and people with attitudes like yours, cloud the issue, I admire your loyalty to the cause but I say it is misguided.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I would like to congratulate the Conservative Party for having the foresight to have these schemes alongside many others in their blueprint for the Future brochure that any one could see before the local elections & many Labour/union supporters slated. I also would like to thank this Labour administration for carrying on with the good work of the Tory Council ( last council). I hope you continue to proceed with all those developments in the tory blueprint[/p][/quote]I would like to congratulate the Coservatives as well for continuing the the 20/20 project that was conceived 8 years ago by the Labour council. . In addition i would also like to congratulate loosehead on his endeavour to make the Tories in Southampton appear to be better than they really are. . It really does brighten my day to almost feel the hate in his posts when he realises that his beloved party are failing nationally and failed abysmally locally ......[/p][/quote]more Labour lies? Taking credit for Tory initiatives?[/p][/quote]Your OCD about Labour is bringing you into disrepute![/p][/quote]osprey I know that the Last council brought out a brochure called blueprint for the `Future in which they showed areas for development. one of these was the train Station area. now many posts slate the concrete building which is across the road from the station but has any one asked a resident if they would like to see them knocked down? Yes I would love to see a great looking building put there but do the looks make it a great living space? I just would like to hear what those residents actually think of their homes?[/p][/quote]LH I have no issue with that particular building, it is what it is and symptomatic of the period that it was built, I have no idea of what particular party label was responsible at the time and don't consider that important either, as long as a Council is doing the job that it was elected to do, is doesn't matter a jot who their leaders are or what colour their allegiances are. Political dogma gets in the way of the real issues and people with attitudes like yours, cloud the issue, I admire your loyalty to the cause but I say it is misguided. OSPREYSAINT
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