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Plans for city's Royal Pier in tatters
THE proposed multi-million pound redevelopment of the Royal Pier in Southampton has collapsed.
Port bosses abandoned plans for a prestige waterfront development featuring bars, restaurants and at least 1,000 flats.
An ambitious vision for a multi-million pound residential and leisure development rising on the pier and land reclaimed from the seabed, opposite Mayflower Park, now lie in tatters for a third time in two years.
Months of high level meetings between Associated British Ports and major developers now appear to be a waste of time as it was announced nothing had been agreed.
Port director Doug Morrison said it had been a painful process, but the proposal, worth several hundred million pounds, would not have made enough money to be viable.
The major stumbling block was the £20m cost of land reclamation to secure the future of the Southampton Boat Show. The prestige event was in danger of being left homeless as West Quay Phase Three is due to rise on land relied on by organisers.
Instead, the remains of the pier will now be demolished to make way for new berth moorings to accommodate more boats in the water during the ten-day event. ABP also extended the boat show's licence to use the waterfront at berth 101 indefinitely.
The announcement was a major blow for Southampton City Council who regarded the pier and park as the flagship project in its dream of reconnecting the city with the waterfront.
Councillor Royston Smith, Cabinet member for economic development, said the fact the proposals were not going forward was a disappointment, but securing the future of the boat show was a positive outcome.
3:13pm Saturday 8th December 2007
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CommentPosted by: Not Suprised on 7:08pm Sat 8 Dec 07
Well done the council for letting another chance to promote the city fail - you're true heroes. It's getting tempting to say "i live near Portsmouth" these days; no doubt get laughed at less!!
Im not even sure these people could arrange a p*** up in a brewery, if they managed to find it to start!!
Well done the council for letting another chance to promote the city fail - you're true heroes. It's getting tempting to say "i live near Portsmouth" these days; no doubt get laughed at less!!
Im not even sure these people could arrange a p*** up in a brewery, if they managed to find it to start!!
Posted by: sick of he boat show, soton on 7:29pm Sat 8 Dec 07
If the boat show say jump etc etc.
Why does a ten day boat show that very few local people go to take precedent over a development which would be there for a minimum of 50 years. the sooner the boat show goes to portsmouth the better
If the boat show say jump etc etc.
Why does a ten day boat show that very few local people go to take precedent over a development which would be there for a minimum of 50 years. the sooner the boat show goes to portsmouth the better
Posted by: sick of he boat show, soton on 7:29pm Sat 8 Dec 07
If the boat show say jump etc etc.
Why does a ten day boat show that very few local people go to take precedent over a development which would be there for a minimum of 50 years. the sooner the boat show goes to portsmouth the better
If the boat show say jump etc etc.
Why does a ten day boat show that very few local people go to take precedent over a development which would be there for a minimum of 50 years. the sooner the boat show goes to portsmouth the better
Posted by: Robert on 7:50pm Sat 8 Dec 07
When the idea was first announced I said "I'll believe it when I see it" and "Don't make me larff" and words to that effect.
Robert scores again!
When the idea was first announced I said "I'll believe it when I see it" and "Don't make me larff" and words to that effect.
Robert scores again!
Posted by: Lowe Hater on 11:31pm Sat 8 Dec 07
Something else for the self righteous Daily Echo to moan about !
Something else for the self righteous Daily Echo to moan about !
Posted by: Karla on 12:06am Sun 9 Dec 07
It's amazing how much money Southampton seems to waste looking into things that never happen...
It's amazing how much money Southampton seems to waste looking into things that never happen...
Posted by: kim, Southampton on 2:22am Sun 9 Dec 07
Never mind people it was only going to be yet more flats.This council seem to have a thing about flats.Just wait till they start building on mayflower park,its going to happen.
Never mind people it was only going to be yet more flats.This council seem to have a thing about flats.Just wait till they start building on mayflower park,its going to happen.
Posted by: sheila, southampton on 4:41pm Sun 9 Dec 07
why does every idea for southampton turn into a damp squib.perhaps southampton whow factor is we will never have a whow
why does every idea for southampton turn into a damp squib.perhaps southampton whow factor is we will never have a whow
Posted by: Deb Havard, Easteigh on 5:01pm Sun 9 Dec 07
i dont if we could do without of withstanding any other complants of the actual collapsing information towards the compleation if any. I'd like the pier for walking on.
i dont if we could do without of withstanding any other complants of the actual collapsing information towards the compleation if any. I'd like the pier for walking on.
Posted by: sotonian, southampton on 7:17pm Sun 9 Dec 07
[quote][bold]sick of he boat show[/bold] wrote:
If the boat show say jump etc etc. Why does a ten day boat show that very few local people go to take precedent over a development which would be there for a minimum of 50 years. the sooner the boat show goes to portsmouth the better[/quote] I think that you will find that a lot of local people attend the boat show.
It makes a very good day out.
sick of he boat show wrote:
If the boat show say jump etc etc. Why does a ten day boat show that very few local people go to take precedent over a development which would be there for a minimum of 50 years. the sooner the boat show goes to portsmouth the better
I think that you will find that a lot of local people attend the boat show.
It makes a very good day out.
Posted by: Pardon? on 8:21pm Sun 9 Dec 07
[quote][bold]Deb Havard[/bold] wrote:
i dont if we could do without of withstanding any other complants of the actual collapsing information towards the compleation if any. I'd like the pier for walking on.[/quote] Why don't people read what they've written before they hit the post button?
Deb Havard wrote:
i dont if we could do without of withstanding any other complants of the actual collapsing information towards the compleation if any. I'd like the pier for walking on.
Why don't people read what they've written before they hit the post button?
Posted by: matty allen, burton on trent on 10:16pm Sun 9 Dec 07
the pier is the only thing that lets the water front down as for the berth 101 being used for mooring yet again people will be ferether away from the cruise ship and all other ships at is the only vanage point southampton is a dock city but u cant get near any of the ships they is more to southampton then the boat show so why should they get there way and why should more empty boat moorings be built when they are ONLY used for HOW MANY WEEKS A YEAR love coming to your city every year but empty yaught moorings would make it more of an eye saw as it is now
the pier is the only thing that lets the water front down as for the berth 101 being used for mooring yet again people will be ferether away from the cruise ship and all other ships at is the only vanage point southampton is a dock city but u cant get near any of the ships they is more to southampton then the boat show so why should they get there way and why should more empty boat moorings be built when they are ONLY used for HOW MANY WEEKS A YEAR love coming to your city every year but empty yaught moorings would make it more of an eye saw as it is now
Posted by: Woolston on 9:38am Mon 10 Dec 07
The City has for the last 30 years made a complete mess of the waterfront areas.
Ocean Village = a mess and still not finished and because of that, lost the round the world races.
Town Quay = Wasted opportunity since day one and already looking ramshackled and ugly
Royal Pier = an eyesore and will continue to be so for years
Woolston Riverside = The next one on the list, with the proposed development currently in danger of falling through, meaning a vast area of land will be wasteland for many more years.
Sort it out Council
The City has for the last 30 years made a complete mess of the waterfront areas.
Ocean Village = a mess and still not finished and because of that, lost the round the world races.
Town Quay = Wasted opportunity since day one and already looking ramshackled and ugly
Royal Pier = an eyesore and will continue to be so for years
Woolston Riverside = The next one on the list, with the proposed development currently in danger of falling through, meaning a vast area of land will be wasteland for many more years.
Sort it out Council
Posted by: Elby, Southampton on 9:44am Mon 10 Dec 07
[quote][bold]Woolston[/bold] wrote:
The City has for the last 30 years made a complete mess of the waterfront areas. Ocean Village = a mess and still not finished and because of that, lost the round the world races. Town Quay = Wasted opportunity since day one and already looking ramshackled and ugly Royal Pier = an eyesore and will continue to be so for years Woolston Riverside = The next one on the list, with the proposed development currently in danger of falling through, meaning a vast area of land will be wasteland for many more years. Sort it out Council[/quote] Lest we forget the beautiful Weston sea-side... Beautifully landscaped with high rise council flats.
Woolston wrote:
The City has for the last 30 years made a complete mess of the waterfront areas. Ocean Village = a mess and still not finished and because of that, lost the round the world races. Town Quay = Wasted opportunity since day one and already looking ramshackled and ugly Royal Pier = an eyesore and will continue to be so for years Woolston Riverside = The next one on the list, with the proposed development currently in danger of falling through, meaning a vast area of land will be wasteland for many more years. Sort it out Council
Lest we forget the beautiful Weston sea-side... Beautifully landscaped with high rise council flats.
Posted by: hmm on 11:19am Mon 10 Dec 07
Great venue for an [bold]ice rink[/bold]
Great venue for an
ice rink Posted by: mike, Southampton on 11:27am Mon 10 Dec 07
Get one project finished at a time rather than fail at several!
Get one project finished at a time rather than fail at several!
Posted by: Bob, Southampton on 10:37pm Mon 10 Dec 07
Always doomed to failure for 2 reasons, the Council and ABP. Perhaps it's time the boat show moved down to Gun Wharf Quays where at least it'd be managed properly. Give the waterfront back to the city.
Always doomed to failure for 2 reasons, the Council and ABP. Perhaps it's time the boat show moved down to Gun Wharf Quays where at least it'd be managed properly. Give the waterfront back to the city.
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