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Terry Paine pleads for patience from Southampton towards Nigel Adkins
2:18pm Tuesday 23rd October 2012 in Sport
By Simon Walter, Senior Sports Reporter
Terry Paine
SAINTS legend Terry Paine believes Nigel Adkins deserves a full season to prove himself in the Premier League.
Paine, who made more appearances for the club than anyone, reckons Adkins has earned the right to be in charge till the end of the campaign.
With more than a fifth of the season gone, third-from-bottom Saints have lost more games and conceded more goals than any of their rivals.
But Paine says: “Nigel’s got to be allowed to go with what he’s got until the end of the season. His record in doing what he’s done at the club is second to none and the first time he’s come under any real pressure he gets this.
“The result at West Ham was always going to mean a certain amount of speculation regarding his future, that’s the norm in this situation.
“Any manager would come under pressure after results like the club have had this season, as I’m sure Mark Hughes is finding.
“But I don’t think changing the manager at this stage would do the club any good.”
Paine believes the relegated trio will come from the bottom seven – Sunderland, Norwich Wigan, Aston Villa, Saints, Reading and QPR.
“I don’t see anyone else dropping down,” he said. “Sunderland are awful, although Martin O’Neill might have enough to keep them up, and I don’t fancy the chances of the others.
“But you have to ask what sacking Adkins would achieve. A new manager wouldn’t be able to bring his own players in until the January transfer window.
“He would take a while to get his feet under the table and by January it might be too late anyway. If the club is still struggling come January, they have to decide whether to bring in reinforcements to strengthen or whether to stick with what they’ve got and be in a better position to come straight back up next year.
“I think that’s the only option. Adkins should be given the benefit of the doubt because what he’s done has been miraculous. He’s done a fabulous job.
“There will be those who want him to go and Nigel will be the first to understand that. When you go to a new club you go knowing you’re 99.9 per cent likely to get the sack at some stage. But I would be very disappointed if he left before the end of the season.”
Comments(121)
SaintAsh1964
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2:30pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Saints + Wigan fan II
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2:32pm Tue 23 Oct 12
up saints
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2:36pm Tue 23 Oct 12
kent141
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2:42pm Tue 23 Oct 12
St Retford
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2:44pm Tue 23 Oct 12
No one has given the remotest indication that Nigel is going anywhere, so let's talk about something else.
St Retford
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2:46pm Tue 23 Oct 12
kent141 wrote:Perfect! Let's talk about your shower of sh1te instead. Have the trust asked for their pledges to be paid up yet? How is all that going?
Relegation by xmas at this rate , get in Mickey Wall before its too late.
kent141
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3:00pm Tue 23 Oct 12
St Retford wrote:What are you rambling on about ?
kent141 wrote:Perfect! Let's talk about your shower of sh1te instead. Have the trust asked for their pledges to be paid up yet? How is all that going?
Relegation by xmas at this rate , get in Mickey Wall before its too late.
ewell
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3:03pm Tue 23 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I agree completely, well said Terry!
Now there is someone I have great respect for, well said Terry.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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3:09pm Tue 23 Oct 12
If he is to go get on with it. If he is to be given time please please don't lets have this conversation after every loss - because there will be a few no matter who the manager. I couldn't stand another 'Is Oxo going to Arsenal?' situation which went on and on and on until he finally went. In the end it became a self fulfilling prophecy.
Ontario Saint
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3:22pm Tue 23 Oct 12
I would like to repeat my comments posted re the Echo's style of journalism which would be better served by getting 100% behind Nigel Atkins and the lads .....they all need to believe in themselves otherwise things will get worse.
This is what I wrote earlier
I am very disappointed with the Echo\s constant sensationalism in the style of journalism they are using to create stories.
Rather than making having repetitive stories about Nigel Atkins and indirectly questioning whether he should be replaced is a disgrace,
I am sorry Mr Editor but you need to be supporting Nigel Atkins and getting everybody behind him for all he has contributed to the Club in getting back to back promotions.
Yes we are struggling but the Manager and players all need encouragement to move forward from here.
Lets face it we all know what the "team" is capable of and without doubt they have the ability to improve as long as they the press and the fans believe in them. Headlines such as the Echo has printed do not help anyone. Mr Editor Rally behind the Club and remember in spite of defeats against both of the Manchester Clubs the team played some brilliant football. ..Please focus on getting everyone behind the lads and Nigel and get away from all the negativity in your articles....it is poor journalism,,, Thank you Mr Editor
saintand266
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3:22pm Tue 23 Oct 12
warrens 76
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3:28pm Tue 23 Oct 12
It is insanity to lose all this good work for short term "illusory" benefits...we must not only be as one, we must show we are as one..
Passion and a growing involved fanbase and a culture of loyalty is our only hope for REAL progression, otherwise debt, disloyalty, fickleness, plastic fan mentality becomes the order of the day, again..for me no way...
Nicole23
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3:38pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Im sure some people would rather be back -10 in league 1.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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3:46pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Our own club had its best years under Lawrie Mac and he got us relegated in his first season in charge. Imagine if we'd sacked him - no 1976, no promotion, no league cup final no finishing 2nd in 84.
It is often hard for Chairmen to resist the fans baying for the managers head as we recently witnessed at Blackburn. However, with a handful of exceptions that is not the situation here, the vast bulk of fans support NA and so the pressure is not on to replace him.
Ultimately CEO's can hire and fire at will. As one myself I always regard sackings as a bad reflection on me - I obviously appointed/allowed the appointment of the wrong person in the first place.
midlandsaint
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3:50pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Bods
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4:13pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Same old Journo tosh, lets roll out the old boys that will at least still talk to us rather than gathering real story material.
randre
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4:14pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Excellent post and I 100% agree with what you say here. All good businesses support their staff in times of trouble where results are down, after what Nigel has achieved he fully deserves the support. Then he will reciprocate that support with on going loyalty which will pay dividends in the future.
Look around the leagues, it's the long serving managers that bring success. Many of them took a while to get their club up and running successfully, but were given the time to do so.
Our own club had its best years under Lawrie Mac and he got us relegated in his first season in charge. Imagine if we'd sacked him - no 1976, no promotion, no league cup final no finishing 2nd in 84.
It is often hard for Chairmen to resist the fans baying for the managers head as we recently witnessed at Blackburn. However, with a handful of exceptions that is not the situation here, the vast bulk of fans support NA and so the pressure is not on to replace him.
Ultimately CEO's can hire and fire at will. As one myself I always regard sackings as a bad reflection on me - I obviously appointed/allowed the appointment of the wrong person in the first place.
CB FRY LIVES
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4:17pm Tue 23 Oct 12
redsnapper
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4:18pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Nicole23 wrote:Good one!!
Nigel Adkins 108 games, 63 wins, 19 draws and 26 losses. Best manager we have ever had. The stats say it all.
Im sure some people would rather be back -10 in league 1.
We will soon get a break and as you hint there is a proportion of the population on here who revel in misery.
we ve been in much bigger holes than this.
Thats football and thats Saints.
CHARLIE TAYLOR
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4:35pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Ontario Saint wrote:Well said !Ontario saint and Terry !
Well said Terry....I can't believe the Echo has written so many articles on the same topic.....even talking about the bookies odds on a new Manager.
I would like to repeat my comments posted re the Echo's style of journalism which would be better served by getting 100% behind Nigel Atkins and the lads .....they all need to believe in themselves otherwise things will get worse.
This is what I wrote earlier
I am very disappointed with the Echo\s constant sensationalism in the style of journalism they are using to create stories.
Rather than making having repetitive stories about Nigel Atkins and indirectly questioning whether he should be replaced is a disgrace,
I am sorry Mr Editor but you need to be supporting Nigel Atkins and getting everybody behind him for all he has contributed to the Club in getting back to back promotions.
Yes we are struggling but the Manager and players all need encouragement to move forward from here.
Lets face it we all know what the "team" is capable of and without doubt they have the ability to improve as long as they the press and the fans believe in them. Headlines such as the Echo has printed do not help anyone. Mr Editor Rally behind the Club and remember in spite of defeats against both of the Manchester Clubs the team played some brilliant football. ..Please focus on getting everyone behind the lads and Nigel and get away from all the negativity in your articles....it is poor journalism,,, Thank you Mr Editor
TEBOURBA
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4:41pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Had he been able to accept LMcM as manager and work with him, Saints could have become one of the greatest teams in the 70's, 80's and 90's even winning the Championship.
It is easy for people to work together when things are going well but sometimes totally different when things are going badly.
We may never know the true relationship between NC and NA, if NA is sacked, his pay off will come with a keep your lips sealed condition, as was the case with Pardew.
The best thing both NC and NA can do now is to get in the very best coaching assistance available, to prop up the defence and help NA and Saints survive and thrive in the PL.
Doing nothing is not an option, mark my words, on Sunday, Lennan, Defoe and Bane will tear Saints to shreds.
PTID1898
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4:42pm Tue 23 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT
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4:45pm Tue 23 Oct 12
PTID1898 wrote:Said by an expert in the downward dangling department!
Please someone start a campaign to keep nigel adkins at st fairies he is doing an outstanding job onwards and downwards i say there is no one better to take you down with a record amount of goals conceded,well done nigel keep going....Play up pompey another 3 points tonight
CB FRY LIVES
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5:05pm Tue 23 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:SAINTS put out a second string and hammered Stevenage in the league cup.Poirpoisemouth skippered by that ex SAINTS BriaN hOWARD WILL BE LUCKY TO COME AWAY WITH A POINt.Michael Appleton for BURNLEY.
PTID1898 wrote:Said by an expert in the downward dangling department!
Please someone start a campaign to keep nigel adkins at st fairies he is doing an outstanding job onwards and downwards i say there is no one better to take you down with a record amount of goals conceded,well done nigel keep going....Play up pompey another 3 points tonight
miltonarcher
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5:09pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Thorshammer
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5:25pm Tue 23 Oct 12
miltonarcher wrote:Speaking as one of the rational majority, why on earth are we even having this discussed.
Echo, can we now stop all the negative stuff. The sensible rational majority back NA, now leave him to get on with the job.
Is the Mekon at Reading having all this Tosh directed at him ?, No he is not, they went up as Champions and were favourites for the drop along with us before a Ball was kicked in anger.,
3 years ago I was just pleased we had a Club left after the carnage post-Lowe.
Get behind the Manager, we will not sack him, quote NA, "this is a results driven game ", enough said.
saintand266
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5:46pm Tue 23 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:PTID will you be at the game tonight or do you have to be in bed with your sister\mum by half past seven because its a school night ?
PTID1898 wrote:Said by an expert in the downward dangling department!
Please someone start a campaign to keep nigel adkins at st fairies he is doing an outstanding job onwards and downwards i say there is no one better to take you down with a record amount of goals conceded,well done nigel keep going....Play up pompey another 3 points tonight
Velleity
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5:53pm Tue 23 Oct 12
kent141 wrote:Who is going to be your manager when Voldemort leaves?
Relegation by xmas at this rate , get in Mickey Wall before its too late.
saintrobbiie
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6:18pm Tue 23 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:What manager is going to turn this around?
Now there is someone I have great respect for, well said Terry.
Fact is apart from Clyne and maybe Yoshida the defensive players are not up to it at this level.
Nigel has made mistakes this season, no question, but he is a good young manager and with backing the defensive situation can be resolved in January.
One of Saints strengths in the last couple of seasons has been their unity and willing to play for each other. Lose that and we are definitely doomed.
The last time we got relegated from prem we changed the manager 3 times and did not look like a team for the whole season.
Nigel should be backed to get things right, unfortunately I fear the chairman will have other ideas.
kent141
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6:19pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Velleity wrote:Since when has Nigel been known as Voldermort ?
kent141 wrote:Who is going to be your manager when Voldemort leaves?
Relegation by xmas at this rate , get in Mickey Wall before its too late.
Mickey Wall in before its too late,Nigel is feeling the pressure and it shows.
Over the Edge
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6:24pm Tue 23 Oct 12
PTID1898 wrote:When we drop like a stone as you as Skates have done I'd start to worry, until enjoy life in League One whilst it lasts, oh and remember your financial powerhouse that is the Skate Trust will buying you soon, meaning a lovely minus 10 for coming out of administration, enjoy your season you minnow, god at the rate your dropping Eastliegh are now the 2nd club in Hampshire.
Please someone start a campaign to keep nigel adkins at st fairies he is doing an outstanding job onwards and downwards i say there is no one better to take you down with a record amount of goals conceded,well done nigel keep going....Play up pompey another 3 points tonight
Run along Skate pack the park tonight well, a couple of hundred of you watching the 3rd biggest team in Hampshire
kent141
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6:39pm Tue 23 Oct 12
spratt
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6:46pm Tue 23 Oct 12
up saints wrote:What some naive comments on this thread. Consider the facts. Nigel did a splendid job in getting us promoted from League One and the Championship albeit the latter by the skin of our teeth. Or has everyone forgotten this. We all knew that the Premiership would be an entirely different kettle of fish but thought - give Nigel a chance at the higher level and see how he fares. Has he proved himself? With a quarter of the season gone look at the results. What do they tell us? Catastophic would be putting it mildly.Now the dilemna is quite simple. Do we give Nigel time to change this aroud and risk relegation to the Championship or appoint a new manager or some sort of aide to Nigel and pray for survival in the Premiership with the chance of regrouping next season. I thought our dream was to be in the Premiership and this should be our aim and the Club must do what it has to do to achieve that aim. We all love Nigel but not at the expense of the Club going backwards. Because of the secret way the Club is run we do not know who decides what, NA or NC, but in my opinion much of the dire situation we find ourselves now in has its roots in the lack of activity in the close season.
well put this should stop all the get N/A out brigade
kent141
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6:46pm Tue 23 Oct 12
saintrobbiie wrote:Changed the manager 3 times ?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:What manager is going to turn this around?
Now there is someone I have great respect for, well said Terry.
Fact is apart from Clyne and maybe Yoshida the defensive players are not up to it at this level.
Nigel has made mistakes this season, no question, but he is a good young manager and with backing the defensive situation can be resolved in January.
One of Saints strengths in the last couple of seasons has been their unity and willing to play for each other. Lose that and we are definitely doomed.
The last time we got relegated from prem we changed the manager 3 times and did not look like a team for the whole season.
Nigel should be backed to get things right, unfortunately I fear the chairman will have other ideas.
dadofmy3sons
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6:48pm Tue 23 Oct 12
It appears they do not like a positive story from the Echo, a real rarity.
I am disappointed in quite a few of the posters who are usually on here having a go at Saints and Nigel. Go on the News site and voice your opinion of Saints on there and find yourself amongst people who agree, because they hate Saints.
Me?
I am a Saints supporter, a Fan who wants his team and club to win and thinks that cheering them on is the best way to achieve that.
Happy clapper? yeh probably!
Is that a meant to be an insult?
Proud to support my club!!!!!!
By the way ...latest rumour is we are looking at Dawson of Spurs... good idea and probably just another one that we have considered, we don't know all the clubs enquiries.
kent141
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6:51pm Tue 23 Oct 12
spratt wrote:You speak a lot of sense spratt ,you may upset some people with your comment but honesty is the best policy,Nigel is out of his depth.
up saints wrote:What some naive comments on this thread. Consider the facts. Nigel did a splendid job in getting us promoted from League One and the Championship albeit the latter by the skin of our teeth. Or has everyone forgotten this. We all knew that the Premiership would be an entirely different kettle of fish but thought - give Nigel a chance at the higher level and see how he fares. Has he proved himself? With a quarter of the season gone look at the results. What do they tell us? Catastophic would be putting it mildly.Now the dilemna is quite simple. Do we give Nigel time to change this aroud and risk relegation to the Championship or appoint a new manager or some sort of aide to Nigel and pray for survival in the Premiership with the chance of regrouping next season. I thought our dream was to be in the Premiership and this should be our aim and the Club must do what it has to do to achieve that aim. We all love Nigel but not at the expense of the Club going backwards. Because of the secret way the Club is run we do not know who decides what, NA or NC, but in my opinion much of the dire situation we find ourselves now in has its roots in the lack of activity in the close season.
well put this should stop all the get N/A out brigade
angus mc coatup
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6:51pm Tue 23 Oct 12
kent141 wrote:you still can't spell your name properly can you.
How come West Brom away tickets are only £15 ,unbelievable for the prem.
Confucious
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6:57pm Tue 23 Oct 12
kent141 wrote:Up Saints - that's two brain cells you are up against now.
spratt wrote:You speak a lot of sense spratt ,you may upset some people with your comment but honesty is the best policy,Nigel is out of his depth.
up saints wrote:What some naive comments on this thread. Consider the facts. Nigel did a splendid job in getting us promoted from League One and the Championship albeit the latter by the skin of our teeth. Or has everyone forgotten this. We all knew that the Premiership would be an entirely different kettle of fish but thought - give Nigel a chance at the higher level and see how he fares. Has he proved himself? With a quarter of the season gone look at the results. What do they tell us? Catastophic would be putting it mildly.Now the dilemna is quite simple. Do we give Nigel time to change this aroud and risk relegation to the Championship or appoint a new manager or some sort of aide to Nigel and pray for survival in the Premiership with the chance of regrouping next season. I thought our dream was to be in the Premiership and this should be our aim and the Club must do what it has to do to achieve that aim. We all love Nigel but not at the expense of the Club going backwards. Because of the secret way the Club is run we do not know who decides what, NA or NC, but in my opinion much of the dire situation we find ourselves now in has its roots in the lack of activity in the close season.
well put this should stop all the get N/A out brigade
Baddesley Bill
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6:58pm Tue 23 Oct 12
dadofmy3sons wrote:One key aspect to retaining prem status is going to be remaining positive. That applies to both the squad...and the support.
where are the gloomndoom ?
It appears they do not like a positive story from the Echo, a real rarity.
I am disappointed in quite a few of the posters who are usually on here having a go at Saints and Nigel. Go on the News site and voice your opinion of Saints on there and find yourself amongst people who agree, because they hate Saints.
Me?
I am a Saints supporter, a Fan who wants his team and club to win and thinks that cheering them on is the best way to achieve that.
Happy clapper? yeh probably!
Is that a meant to be an insult?
Proud to support my club!!!!!!
By the way ...latest rumour is we are looking at Dawson of Spurs... good idea and probably just another one that we have considered, we don't know all the clubs enquiries.
Cheering my team with all I've got (aka "Happy clapping") will play its part imo.
My name is Baddesley Bill, and I'm a happy clapper! :O)
angus mc coatup
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7:03pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Confucious wrote:and spratt has them both.
kent141 wrote:Up Saints - that's two brain cells you are up against now.
spratt wrote:You speak a lot of sense spratt ,you may upset some people with your comment but honesty is the best policy,Nigel is out of his depth.
up saints wrote:What some naive comments on this thread. Consider the facts. Nigel did a splendid job in getting us promoted from League One and the Championship albeit the latter by the skin of our teeth. Or has everyone forgotten this. We all knew that the Premiership would be an entirely different kettle of fish but thought - give Nigel a chance at the higher level and see how he fares. Has he proved himself? With a quarter of the season gone look at the results. What do they tell us? Catastophic would be putting it mildly.Now the dilemna is quite simple. Do we give Nigel time to change this aroud and risk relegation to the Championship or appoint a new manager or some sort of aide to Nigel and pray for survival in the Premiership with the chance of regrouping next season. I thought our dream was to be in the Premiership and this should be our aim and the Club must do what it has to do to achieve that aim. We all love Nigel but not at the expense of the Club going backwards. Because of the secret way the Club is run we do not know who decides what, NA or NC, but in my opinion much of the dire situation we find ourselves now in has its roots in the lack of activity in the close season.
well put this should stop all the get N/A out brigade
kent141
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7:14pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:Good on you William,keep clapping but at the back of your mind would you be even happier if the team actually won a game every now and then ?
dadofmy3sons wrote:One key aspect to retaining prem status is going to be remaining positive. That applies to both the squad...and the support.
where are the gloomndoom ?
It appears they do not like a positive story from the Echo, a real rarity.
I am disappointed in quite a few of the posters who are usually on here having a go at Saints and Nigel. Go on the News site and voice your opinion of Saints on there and find yourself amongst people who agree, because they hate Saints.
Me?
I am a Saints supporter, a Fan who wants his team and club to win and thinks that cheering them on is the best way to achieve that.
Happy clapper? yeh probably!
Is that a meant to be an insult?
Proud to support my club!!!!!!
By the way ...latest rumour is we are looking at Dawson of Spurs... good idea and probably just another one that we have considered, we don't know all the clubs enquiries.
Cheering my team with all I've got (aka "Happy clapping") will play its part imo.
My name is Baddesley Bill, and I'm a happy clapper! :O)
Baddesley Bill
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7:28pm Tue 23 Oct 12
kent141 wrote:Come on Stevenage
Baddesley Bill wrote:Good on you William,keep clapping but at the back of your mind would you be even happier if the team actually won a game every now and then ?
dadofmy3sons wrote:One key aspect to retaining prem status is going to be remaining positive. That applies to both the squad...and the support.
where are the gloomndoom ?
It appears they do not like a positive story from the Echo, a real rarity.
I am disappointed in quite a few of the posters who are usually on here having a go at Saints and Nigel. Go on the News site and voice your opinion of Saints on there and find yourself amongst people who agree, because they hate Saints.
Me?
I am a Saints supporter, a Fan who wants his team and club to win and thinks that cheering them on is the best way to achieve that.
Happy clapper? yeh probably!
Is that a meant to be an insult?
Proud to support my club!!!!!!
By the way ...latest rumour is we are looking at Dawson of Spurs... good idea and probably just another one that we have considered, we don't know all the clubs enquiries.
Cheering my team with all I've got (aka "Happy clapping") will play its part imo.
My name is Baddesley Bill, and I'm a happy clapper! :O)
OSPREYSAINT
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7:34pm Tue 23 Oct 12
kent141 wrote:Just one win to start with, would make a heck of a difference.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Good on you William,keep clapping but at the back of your mind would you be even happier if the team actually won a game every now and then ?
dadofmy3sons wrote:One key aspect to retaining prem status is going to be remaining positive. That applies to both the squad...and the support.
where are the gloomndoom ?
It appears they do not like a positive story from the Echo, a real rarity.
I am disappointed in quite a few of the posters who are usually on here having a go at Saints and Nigel. Go on the News site and voice your opinion of Saints on there and find yourself amongst people who agree, because they hate Saints.
Me?
I am a Saints supporter, a Fan who wants his team and club to win and thinks that cheering them on is the best way to achieve that.
Happy clapper? yeh probably!
Is that a meant to be an insult?
Proud to support my club!!!!!!
By the way ...latest rumour is we are looking at Dawson of Spurs... good idea and probably just another one that we have considered, we don't know all the clubs enquiries.
Cheering my team with all I've got (aka "Happy clapping") will play its part imo.
My name is Baddesley Bill, and I'm a happy clapper! :O)
thomasupton
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7:36pm Tue 23 Oct 12
southwest saint
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8:04pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Nigel Adkins has done a fantastic job here and I don't just mean by getting us promoted. Not so long ago we were making excuses for players who brought the club into disrepute when they should have been sacked.
There were also other things that happened which for a time made me feel ashamed to be associated with the club.
Nigel Adkins believes in a fantastic team based work ethic and a moral standard that is way above what it was not so long ago. His appointment has been a breath of fresh air to this club.
He is a manager that has a vision for our football club to take it forward in the right way morally and ethically.
We all want to see fast flowing attacking football, we all want to be entertained. This is his vision.
Of course we are desperate to see the team start winning and we have to defend far better that is obvious.
Lets not get rid of him but let us get him some help.
Clearly there are huge defensive problems and somehow this has to be sorted out.
We are all feeling down at the moment, some would say staring relegation in the face.
Even after our poor start we are not bottom of the league, we have scored in every game bar one and even in that game have hit the woodwork twice.
There is also nothing wrong here that a couple of wins couldn't put right.
Let's not panic here but keep our heads so that the powers that be make right decisions.
If we can tighten the defence then with the attacking options we have will get many more wins this season.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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8:28pm Tue 23 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT
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8:29pm Tue 23 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:There you go again with them negative waves, you don't have keep telling us these things we already know these things. Keep the faith, believe, try a little prayer or two, do anything but post silly predictions, which we have no control over. Say after me 100 times, "Saints will beat Spurs on Sunday" and try to believe it will happen.
At the end of the day we aren't winning games, and conceding like a leaky bucket. Adkins doesn't want to change anything. Surely this is a recipe for disaster. Think if we get nothing out of Sunday, sadly I think Adkins will be gone. Hope Lambert and Puncheon play and Guly isn't even considered for a seat on the bench.
OSPREYSAINT
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8:31pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Nice one, Barts team are beating the Cherries 2 0
I see Stevenage have scored. That's nice.
OSPREYSAINT
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8:32pm Tue 23 Oct 12
spirit of 66
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8:33pm Tue 23 Oct 12
southwest saint
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8:40pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Confucious
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8:50pm Tue 23 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT
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8:56pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Confucious wrote:You put the jinx on 'em it's 1 1
I usually support the little club in these minnows v giants matches, but of course tonight is an exception. Come on Stevenage!
OSPREYSAINT
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OSPREYSAINT
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OSPREYSAINT
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9:09pm Tue 23 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT
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9:11pm Tue 23 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT
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9:18pm Tue 23 Oct 12
MGRA
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9:20pm Tue 23 Oct 12
randre
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9:26pm Tue 23 Oct 12
dadofmy3sons wrote:Great post. Well said that man.
where are the gloomndoom ?
It appears they do not like a positive story from the Echo, a real rarity.
I am disappointed in quite a few of the posters who are usually on here having a go at Saints and Nigel. Go on the News site and voice your opinion of Saints on there and find yourself amongst people who agree, because they hate Saints.
Me?
I am a Saints supporter, a Fan who wants his team and club to win and thinks that cheering them on is the best way to achieve that.
Happy clapper? yeh probably!
Is that a meant to be an insult?
Proud to support my club!!!!!!
By the way ...latest rumour is we are looking at Dawson of Spurs... good idea and probably just another one that we have considered, we don't know all the clubs enquiries.
OSPREYSAINT
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9:33pm Tue 23 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT
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9:35pm Tue 23 Oct 12
randre
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9:37pm Tue 23 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:Ah Thomas, or is it Kent or Teboorya? All one of the same person I think!! You do put a smile on my face. If you truly are a Saints fan then you must be the life and soul of any Saibts supporters party! Can't wait for that one!!!
At the end of the day we aren't winning games, and conceding like a leaky bucket. Adkins doesn't want to change anything. Surely this is a recipe for disaster. Think if we get nothing out of Sunday, sadly I think Adkins will be gone. Hope Lambert and Puncheon play and Guly isn't even considered for a seat on the bench.
OSPREYSAINT
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9:38pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Baddesley Bill
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9:39pm Tue 23 Oct 12
randre
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9:40pm Tue 23 Oct 12
randre wrote:Ffs, Saints supporters party!!! Blooming iPhone keys are too small!
thomasupton wrote:Ah Thomas, or is it Kent or Teboorya? All one of the same person I think!! You do put a smile on my face. If you truly are a Saints fan then you must be the life and soul of any Saibts supporters party! Can't wait for that one!!!
At the end of the day we aren't winning games, and conceding like a leaky bucket. Adkins doesn't want to change anything. Surely this is a recipe for disaster. Think if we get nothing out of Sunday, sadly I think Adkins will be gone. Hope Lambert and Puncheon play and Guly isn't even considered for a seat on the bench.
OSPREYSAINT
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9:41pm Tue 23 Oct 12
PTID1898 wrote:Yup 3 points for Stevenage
Please someone start a campaign to keep nigel adkins at st fairies he is doing an outstanding job onwards and downwards i say there is no one better to take you down with a record amount of goals conceded,well done nigel keep going....Play up pompey another 3 points tonight
randre
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9:41pm Tue 23 Oct 12
hedge end bob
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9:45pm Tue 23 Oct 12
kent141 wrote:Yes
saintrobbiie wrote:Changed the manager 3 times ?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:What manager is going to turn this around?
Now there is someone I have great respect for, well said Terry.
Fact is apart from Clyne and maybe Yoshida the defensive players are not up to it at this level.
Nigel has made mistakes this season, no question, but he is a good young manager and with backing the defensive situation can be resolved in January.
One of Saints strengths in the last couple of seasons has been their unity and willing to play for each other. Lose that and we are definitely doomed.
The last time we got relegated from prem we changed the manager 3 times and did not look like a team for the whole season.
Nigel should be backed to get things right, unfortunately I fear the chairman will have other ideas.
PORTALOO
WOTTLE
AND HARRY EFING REDCRAP
MGRA
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9:47pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Scarborosaint
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9:47pm Tue 23 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT
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9:49pm Tue 23 Oct 12
MGRA wrote:Is it portable as they would have to trot it up to the other end at half time.
Just heard from the AFP wire service that goal line technology is to be installed at all grounds. All clubs are to get two sets of cameras, except pompey who just get the one camera for their own goal line. It was felt a camera for the other end seeing such little use was not a good use of money.
OSPREYSAINT
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9:51pm Tue 23 Oct 12
MGRA
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9:52pm Tue 23 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote::0)
MGRA wrote:Is it portable as they would have to trot it up to the other end at half time.
Just heard from the AFP wire service that goal line technology is to be installed at all grounds. All clubs are to get two sets of cameras, except pompey who just get the one camera for their own goal line. It was felt a camera for the other end seeing such little use was not a good use of money.
OSPREYSAINT
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9:56pm Tue 23 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT
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9:59pm Tue 23 Oct 12
randre wrote:14th but when they deduct the -10 points, 22nd
Where are the Skunts now??
slugger
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10:15pm Tue 23 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:point 1 , good observation (we hadn't noticed) and on the subject of team selection ....... i'll trust nigel over you ta .
At the end of the day we aren't winning games, and conceding like a leaky bucket. Adkins doesn't want to change anything. Surely this is a recipe for disaster. Think if we get nothing out of Sunday, sadly I think Adkins will be gone. Hope Lambert and Puncheon play and Guly isn't even considered for a seat on the bench.
TEBOURBA
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10:17pm Tue 23 Oct 12
slugger
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10:22pm Tue 23 Oct 12
TEBOURBA wrote:he got that last year .
Wouldn't it be great if NC put an end to all the speculation by granting NA a 2 year extension on his contract?
Tirau Dan
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10:26pm Tue 23 Oct 12
I heard Keegans name bandied around the other day.. you know when he last took up with Toon he played 442 and lost his first 8 games straight.. then changed to 433 and started to win a few. Fickle circus is football.
In Nigel I trust... COYR
78% support for Nigel in paper that loves to dig at SFC ..that is fantastic. I
MGRA
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10:27pm Tue 23 Oct 12
slugger wrote:managers contracts are mostly window dressing..... with the exception of Pardew's ( which would cost Newcastle a fortune to bail out of ) most managers contracts are full of holes... Lets just keep the diving tw@t bale out and keep a clean sheet against spurs...then Nigel can maybe get a better nights sleep.
TEBOURBA wrote:he got that last year .
Wouldn't it be great if NC put an end to all the speculation by granting NA a 2 year extension on his contract?
slugger
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10:34pm Tue 23 Oct 12
MGRA wrote:no different to players contracts ....... the longer the contract , the more he's worth ........... i got no problem with gareth bale , one of the best players in the world !
slugger wrote:managers contracts are mostly window dressing..... with the exception of Pardew's ( which would cost Newcastle a fortune to bail out of ) most managers contracts are full of holes... Lets just keep the diving tw@t bale out and keep a clean sheet against spurs...then Nigel can maybe get a better nights sleep.
TEBOURBA wrote:he got that last year .
Wouldn't it be great if NC put an end to all the speculation by granting NA a 2 year extension on his contract?
ghk230473
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10:38pm Tue 23 Oct 12
MGRA wrote:Can't see us beating spurs tbh, moral and confidence must be at a low. Adkins and back room staff will have their work cut out. I think Monday will be very interesting!
slugger wrote:managers contracts are mostly window dressing..... with the exception of Pardew's ( which would cost Newcastle a fortune to bail out of ) most managers contracts are full of holes... Lets just keep the diving tw@t bale out and keep a clean sheet against spurs...then Nigel can maybe get a better nights sleep.
TEBOURBA wrote:he got that last year .
Wouldn't it be great if NC put an end to all the speculation by granting NA a 2 year extension on his contract?
OSPREYSAINT
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10:39pm Tue 23 Oct 12
slugger wrote:Contracted until June 2015 unless there is a change of heart.
TEBOURBA wrote:he got that last year .
Wouldn't it be great if NC put an end to all the speculation by granting NA a 2 year extension on his contract?
OSPREYSAINT
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10:44pm Tue 23 Oct 12
ghk230473 wrote:If you want to see Saints beat Spuds you will have to be there, no such word as cant, but I know a similar word that applies in your case.
MGRA wrote:Can't see us beating spurs tbh, moral and confidence must be at a low. Adkins and back room staff will have their work cut out. I think Monday will be very interesting!
slugger wrote:managers contracts are mostly window dressing..... with the exception of Pardew's ( which would cost Newcastle a fortune to bail out of ) most managers contracts are full of holes... Lets just keep the diving tw@t bale out and keep a clean sheet against spurs...then Nigel can maybe get a better nights sleep.
TEBOURBA wrote:he got that last year .
Wouldn't it be great if NC put an end to all the speculation by granting NA a 2 year extension on his contract?
ghk230473
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10:47pm Tue 23 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Ouch! Who took the jam out of your doughnut?
ghk230473 wrote:If you want to see Saints beat Spuds you will have to be there, no such word as cant, but I know a similar word that applies in your case.
MGRA wrote:Can't see us beating spurs tbh, moral and confidence must be at a low. Adkins and back room staff will have their work cut out. I think Monday will be very interesting!
slugger wrote:managers contracts are mostly window dressing..... with the exception of Pardew's ( which would cost Newcastle a fortune to bail out of ) most managers contracts are full of holes... Lets just keep the diving tw@t bale out and keep a clean sheet against spurs...then Nigel can maybe get a better nights sleep.
TEBOURBA wrote:he got that last year .
Wouldn't it be great if NC put an end to all the speculation by granting NA a 2 year extension on his contract?
slugger
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10:48pm Tue 23 Oct 12
ghk230473 wrote:i can ....... but if we don't i'll still support .......... i don't understand why any fan wouldn't .
MGRA wrote:Can't see us beating spurs tbh, moral and confidence must be at a low. Adkins and back room staff will have their work cut out. I think Monday will be very interesting!
slugger wrote:managers contracts are mostly window dressing..... with the exception of Pardew's ( which would cost Newcastle a fortune to bail out of ) most managers contracts are full of holes... Lets just keep the diving tw@t bale out and keep a clean sheet against spurs...then Nigel can maybe get a better nights sleep.
TEBOURBA wrote:he got that last year .
Wouldn't it be great if NC put an end to all the speculation by granting NA a 2 year extension on his contract?
Baddesley Bill
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10:51pm Tue 23 Oct 12
ghk230473 wrote:Presumably...Nigel will be applying a little more positivity with his squad than you would.
MGRA wrote:Can't see us beating spurs tbh, moral and confidence must be at a low. Adkins and back room staff will have their work cut out. I think Monday will be very interesting!
slugger wrote:managers contracts are mostly window dressing..... with the exception of Pardew's ( which would cost Newcastle a fortune to bail out of ) most managers contracts are full of holes... Lets just keep the diving tw@t bale out and keep a clean sheet against spurs...then Nigel can maybe get a better nights sleep.
TEBOURBA wrote:he got that last year .
Wouldn't it be great if NC put an end to all the speculation by granting NA a 2 year extension on his contract?
You revel in our poor start ghk... if you were really a Saint...then you would be a disgrace.
OSPREYSAINT
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10:59pm Tue 23 Oct 12
ghk230473 wrote:I like the centres in ring donuts, less fattening.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Ouch! Who took the jam out of your doughnut?
ghk230473 wrote:If you want to see Saints beat Spuds you will have to be there, no such word as cant, but I know a similar word that applies in your case.
MGRA wrote:Can't see us beating spurs tbh, moral and confidence must be at a low. Adkins and back room staff will have their work cut out. I think Monday will be very interesting!
slugger wrote:managers contracts are mostly window dressing..... with the exception of Pardew's ( which would cost Newcastle a fortune to bail out of ) most managers contracts are full of holes... Lets just keep the diving tw@t bale out and keep a clean sheet against spurs...then Nigel can maybe get a better nights sleep.
TEBOURBA wrote:he got that last year .
Wouldn't it be great if NC put an end to all the speculation by granting NA a 2 year extension on his contract?
MGRA
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11:01pm Tue 23 Oct 12
slugger wrote:yes he is one of the best players in the world when he stays on his feet... but sadly he spends most of the time cheating and diving and embarrassing himself... if he is "best in the world" then the quicker he pi55es of to madrid the better... cheats make bad role models...
MGRA wrote:no different to players contracts ....... the longer the contract , the more he's worth ........... i got no problem with gareth bale , one of the best players in the world !
slugger wrote:managers contracts are mostly window dressing..... with the exception of Pardew's ( which would cost Newcastle a fortune to bail out of ) most managers contracts are full of holes... Lets just keep the diving tw@t bale out and keep a clean sheet against spurs...then Nigel can maybe get a better nights sleep.
TEBOURBA wrote:he got that last year .
Wouldn't it be great if NC put an end to all the speculation by granting NA a 2 year extension on his contract?
slugger
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11:03pm Tue 23 Oct 12
MGRA wrote:all the best players do it , i don't like it but they all do it !
slugger wrote:yes he is one of the best players in the world when he stays on his feet... but sadly he spends most of the time cheating and diving and embarrassing himself... if he is "best in the world" then the quicker he pi55es of to madrid the better... cheats make bad role models...
MGRA wrote:no different to players contracts ....... the longer the contract , the more he's worth ........... i got no problem with gareth bale , one of the best players in the world !
slugger wrote:managers contracts are mostly window dressing..... with the exception of Pardew's ( which would cost Newcastle a fortune to bail out of ) most managers contracts are full of holes... Lets just keep the diving tw@t bale out and keep a clean sheet against spurs...then Nigel can maybe get a better nights sleep.
TEBOURBA wrote:he got that last year .
Wouldn't it be great if NC put an end to all the speculation by granting NA a 2 year extension on his contract?
MGRA
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11:04pm Tue 23 Oct 12
slugger wrote:oh and totally different to players contracts. you will not see any player sacked for "playing badly" during the next week or so....
MGRA wrote:no different to players contracts ....... the longer the contract , the more he's worth ........... i got no problem with gareth bale , one of the best players in the world !
slugger wrote:managers contracts are mostly window dressing..... with the exception of Pardew's ( which would cost Newcastle a fortune to bail out of ) most managers contracts are full of holes... Lets just keep the diving tw@t bale out and keep a clean sheet against spurs...then Nigel can maybe get a better nights sleep.
TEBOURBA wrote:he got that last year .
Wouldn't it be great if NC put an end to all the speculation by granting NA a 2 year extension on his contract?
ghk230473
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11:09pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:On the contrary. I never got too high like some last season, I saw and posted some doubts I had and got crucified. Adkins is a good manager but is very in- experienced and to some this is and has been very obvious.
ghk230473 wrote:Presumably...Nigel will be applying a little more positivity with his squad than you would.
MGRA wrote:Can't see us beating spurs tbh, moral and confidence must be at a low. Adkins and back room staff will have their work cut out. I think Monday will be very interesting!
slugger wrote:managers contracts are mostly window dressing..... with the exception of Pardew's ( which would cost Newcastle a fortune to bail out of ) most managers contracts are full of holes... Lets just keep the diving tw@t bale out and keep a clean sheet against spurs...then Nigel can maybe get a better nights sleep.
TEBOURBA wrote:he got that last year .
Wouldn't it be great if NC put an end to all the speculation by granting NA a 2 year extension on his contract?
You revel in our poor start ghk... if you were really a Saint...then you would be a disgrace.
For the record I would not like to see him gone but IMO he didn't put his foot down and get players in the last 2 transfer windows. He should insist on funds being made available for next window and prepare for the following season either in championship or premier league and build on existing squad.
I'm not getting involved in more slagging matches, dont need to the proof is there.
OSPREYSAINT
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11:12pm Tue 23 Oct 12
ghk230473 wrote:Promise?
Baddesley Bill wrote:On the contrary. I never got too high like some last season, I saw and posted some doubts I had and got crucified. Adkins is a good manager but is very in- experienced and to some this is and has been very obvious.
ghk230473 wrote:Presumably...Nigel will be applying a little more positivity with his squad than you would.
MGRA wrote:Can't see us beating spurs tbh, moral and confidence must be at a low. Adkins and back room staff will have their work cut out. I think Monday will be very interesting!
slugger wrote:managers contracts are mostly window dressing..... with the exception of Pardew's ( which would cost Newcastle a fortune to bail out of ) most managers contracts are full of holes... Lets just keep the diving tw@t bale out and keep a clean sheet against spurs...then Nigel can maybe get a better nights sleep.
TEBOURBA wrote:he got that last year .
Wouldn't it be great if NC put an end to all the speculation by granting NA a 2 year extension on his contract?
You revel in our poor start ghk... if you were really a Saint...then you would be a disgrace.
For the record I would not like to see him gone but IMO he didn't put his foot down and get players in the last 2 transfer windows. He should insist on funds being made available for next window and prepare for the following season either in championship or premier league and build on existing squad.
I'm not getting involved in more slagging matches, dont need to the proof is there.
slugger
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11:12pm Tue 23 Oct 12
MGRA wrote:there is no difference to a contract ....... if a players contract was terminated it would have to be paid up just the same as a managers .......... remind me where you get your insider knowledge from .
slugger wrote:oh and totally different to players contracts. you will not see any player sacked for "playing badly" during the next week or so....
MGRA wrote:no different to players contracts ....... the longer the contract , the more he's worth ........... i got no problem with gareth bale , one of the best players in the world !
slugger wrote:managers contracts are mostly window dressing..... with the exception of Pardew's ( which would cost Newcastle a fortune to bail out of ) most managers contracts are full of holes... Lets just keep the diving tw@t bale out and keep a clean sheet against spurs...then Nigel can maybe get a better nights sleep.
TEBOURBA wrote:he got that last year .
Wouldn't it be great if NC put an end to all the speculation by granting NA a 2 year extension on his contract?
MGRA
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11:22pm Tue 23 Oct 12
slugger wrote:there is absolutely no similarity between the players contracts and the managers. The players contracts can not be terminated without misconduct unless the club wants to be taken to the cleaners. Managers contracts are entirely different and are crafted with entirely different "performance" clauses. Regards my knowledge... yes I will happily talk about that, but not here.
MGRA wrote:there is no difference to a contract ....... if a players contract was terminated it would have to be paid up just the same as a managers .......... remind me where you get your insider knowledge from .
slugger wrote:oh and totally different to players contracts. you will not see any player sacked for "playing badly" during the next week or so....
MGRA wrote:no different to players contracts ....... the longer the contract , the more he's worth ........... i got no problem with gareth bale , one of the best players in the world !
slugger wrote:managers contracts are mostly window dressing..... with the exception of Pardew's ( which would cost Newcastle a fortune to bail out of ) most managers contracts are full of holes... Lets just keep the diving tw@t bale out and keep a clean sheet against spurs...then Nigel can maybe get a better nights sleep.
TEBOURBA wrote:he got that last year .
Wouldn't it be great if NC put an end to all the speculation by granting NA a 2 year extension on his contract?
ghk230473
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11:33pm Tue 23 Oct 12
MGRA
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11:40pm Tue 23 Oct 12
ghk230473 wrote:No I am not. But I know the football business. More than most and consider this more unfortunate than a blessing at times. Its not an honourable industry. And for my sins am also a Saints fan for 40 years.
Mgra, are you an ex employee?
ghk230473
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11:45pm Tue 23 Oct 12
MGRA wrote:Which clubs?
ghk230473 wrote:No I am not. But I know the football business. More than most and consider this more unfortunate than a blessing at times. Its not an honourable industry. And for my sins am also a Saints fan for 40 years.
Mgra, are you an ex employee?
thomasupton
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12:53am Wed 24 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:We wont beat Spurs, love to see it but not going to happen.
thomasupton wrote:There you go again with them negative waves, you don't have keep telling us these things we already know these things. Keep the faith, believe, try a little prayer or two, do anything but post silly predictions, which we have no control over. Say after me 100 times, "Saints will beat Spurs on Sunday" and try to believe it will happen.
At the end of the day we aren't winning games, and conceding like a leaky bucket. Adkins doesn't want to change anything. Surely this is a recipe for disaster. Think if we get nothing out of Sunday, sadly I think Adkins will be gone. Hope Lambert and Puncheon play and Guly isn't even considered for a seat on the bench.
st1halo
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1:57am Wed 24 Oct 12
Ontario Saint wrote:And the reply went something like this....
Well said Terry....I can't believe the Echo has written so many articles on the same topic.....even talking about the bookies odds on a new Manager.
I would like to repeat my comments posted re the Echo's style of journalism which would be better served by getting 100% behind Nigel Atkins and the lads .....they all need to believe in themselves otherwise things will get worse.
This is what I wrote earlier
I am very disappointed with the Echo\s constant sensationalism in the style of journalism they are using to create stories.
Rather than making having repetitive stories about Nigel Atkins and indirectly questioning whether he should be replaced is a disgrace,
I am sorry Mr Editor but you need to be supporting Nigel Atkins and getting everybody behind him for all he has contributed to the Club in getting back to back promotions.
Yes we are struggling but the Manager and players all need encouragement to move forward from here.
Lets face it we all know what the "team" is capable of and without doubt they have the ability to improve as long as they the press and the fans believe in them. Headlines such as the Echo has printed do not help anyone. Mr Editor Rally behind the Club and remember in spite of defeats against both of the Manchester Clubs the team played some brilliant football. ..Please focus on getting everyone behind the lads and Nigel and get away from all the negativity in your articles....it is poor journalism,,, Thank you Mr Editor
Ontario, thank you for your observation. We do accept that some of the headlines we print are negative, however we have never , in our existence, put out a story about Nigel Atkins, repetitive or otherwise. Infact, we don't know who he is. We have noticed a lot of posters on our website mention him and intend to pass the information along to the police as he may be an imposter pretending to be Nigel ADKINS who we have written about. If you know who and where Nigel Atkins is and have any negative stories about him, we will gladly write them.
Lots of love, Mr Editor (Nigel Akins)
Yon_St_Harri
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1:58am Wed 24 Oct 12
nuttysaint
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3:34am Wed 24 Oct 12
I see Sharpe scored for Forest but i feel he was only loaned out to Forest to continue getting first team football regularly and ready for Plan 'B' if the worst was to happen and we get relegated. We can then recall him and have an excellent goalscorer to get us straight back up again.
PTID1898
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6:13am Wed 24 Oct 12
southwest saint wrote:kukoo kukoo dreaming again are we
saints 4 Spurs 2
Mush On The Beach
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6:31am Wed 24 Oct 12
PTID1898 wrote:The cuckoos are for the most part solitary birds that seldom occur in pairs or groups. They tend to habituate other birds nests as they have no skills in building or maintaining their own. Now bordering on an endangered species.
southwest saint wrote:kukoo kukoo dreaming again are we
saints 4 Spurs 2
Sounds familiar ….. Skunt
SouthamptonLegend
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7:42am Wed 24 Oct 12
The main factor here is Adkins isn't good enough. If you had a business and your manager was losing you money and customers, would u let him try and sort it out for the rest of the year or longer?? No way Jose!!
We are Cortese's business and he wants to make money. There is no time for sentiments in business. Do you people understand? Adkins will be gone if we keep getting bad results.
OSPREYSAINT
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8:30am Wed 24 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:The odds were a hundred to one against us
OSPREYSAINT wrote:We wont beat Spurs, love to see it but not going to happen.
thomasupton wrote:There you go again with them negative waves, you don't have keep telling us these things we already know these things. Keep the faith, believe, try a little prayer or two, do anything but post silly predictions, which we have no control over. Say after me 100 times, "Saints will beat Spurs on Sunday" and try to believe it will happen.
At the end of the day we aren't winning games, and conceding like a leaky bucket. Adkins doesn't want to change anything. Surely this is a recipe for disaster. Think if we get nothing out of Sunday, sadly I think Adkins will be gone. Hope Lambert and Puncheon play and Guly isn't even considered for a seat on the bench.
The world thought the heights were too high to climb
But people from Skateland never incensed me
Oh, I wasn’t a bit concerned
For from hist’ry I had learned
How many, many times the worm had turned
They all laughed at Christopher Columbus
When he said the world was round
They all laughed when Edison recorded sound
They all laughed at Wilbur and his brother
When they said that man could fly
They told marconi
Wireless was a phony
It’s the same old cry
They laughed at me for liking Saints, true
Said I was reaching for the moon
But oh Saints, you will come through
Then they’ll have to change their tune.
Apologies to Gershwin
OSPREYSAINT
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8:31am Wed 24 Oct 12
PTID1898 wrote:Hope my Stevenage score line was helpful to you.
southwest saint wrote:kukoo kukoo dreaming again are we
saints 4 Spurs 2
seventh-junction
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8:47am Wed 24 Oct 12
PTID1898 wrote:You lost...0 points last night ha ha
Please someone start a campaign to keep nigel adkins at st fairies he is doing an outstanding job onwards and downwards i say there is no one better to take you down with a record amount of goals conceded,well done nigel keep going....Play up pompey another 3 points tonight
seventh-junction
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8:57am Wed 24 Oct 12
PTID1898 wrote:Stevenage 2 Skunts 1.......back to reality you can stop dreaming now ha ha ha
southwest saint wrote:kukoo kukoo dreaming again are we
saints 4 Spurs 2
When are you going to die like your name suggests? Soon I hope
seventh-junction
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9:13am Wed 24 Oct 12
kent141 wrote:We're not really interested about what's going to happen to your shower of sh1te by xmas or who will replace Voldermort.
Relegation by xmas at this rate , get in Mickey Wall before its too late.
The mongs on the news site might be.
Try going on that site and voicing your opinions, you'll fit in nicely
OSPREYSAINT
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9:33am Wed 24 Oct 12
Mush On The Beach wrote:I prefer the Pandion haliaetus, eats fish for breakfast, dinner and tea.
PTID1898 wrote:The cuckoos are for the most part solitary birds that seldom occur in pairs or groups. They tend to habituate other birds nests as they have no skills in building or maintaining their own. Now bordering on an endangered species.
southwest saint wrote:kukoo kukoo dreaming again are we
saints 4 Spurs 2
Sounds familiar ….. Skunt
cliffwalker
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10:43am Wed 24 Oct 12
Saints + Wigan fan II wrote:Where where?
here here
cliffwalker
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10:45am Wed 24 Oct 12
midlandsaint wrote:Where where?
Here here Terry
cliffwalker
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10:51am Wed 24 Oct 12
thomasupton wrote:We aren't winning games in the middle of the afternoon either. Can you just remind me how a leaky bucket concedes?
At the end of the day we aren't winning games, and conceding like a leaky bucket. Adkins doesn't want to change anything. Surely this is a recipe for disaster. Think if we get nothing out of Sunday, sadly I think Adkins will be gone. Hope Lambert and Puncheon play and Guly isn't even considered for a seat on the bench.
cliffwalker
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10:58am Wed 24 Oct 12
nuttysaint wrote:Such ambition. I hope NA plans a higher rank than that.
There will be 3 worse teams in this division than us, i am confident we will not go down and am confident that NA will not be sacked although he needs to stop playing guly, he contributes nothing!
I see Sharpe scored for Forest but i feel he was only loaned out to Forest to continue getting first team football regularly and ready for Plan 'B' if the worst was to happen and we get relegated. We can then recall him and have an excellent goalscorer to get us straight back up again.
warrens 76
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11:54am Wed 24 Oct 12
southwest saint wrote:Unbelievably good post...I wish the parents of every kid in the South could read, absorb and understand this...then the plastic fans would melt away and we could fill a 50.000 stadium playing dream football with a moral compass..
If ever there was a club that knew about the futility of changing managers it must be us.
Nigel Adkins has done a fantastic job here and I don't just mean by getting us promoted. Not so long ago we were making excuses for players who brought the club into disrepute when they should have been sacked.
There were also other things that happened which for a time made me feel ashamed to be associated with the club.
Nigel Adkins believes in a fantastic team based work ethic and a moral standard that is way above what it was not so long ago. His appointment has been a breath of fresh air to this club.
He is a manager that has a vision for our football club to take it forward in the right way morally and ethically.
We all want to see fast flowing attacking football, we all want to be entertained. This is his vision.
Of course we are desperate to see the team start winning and we have to defend far better that is obvious.
Lets not get rid of him but let us get him some help.
Clearly there are huge defensive problems and somehow this has to be sorted out.
We are all feeling down at the moment, some would say staring relegation in the face.
Even after our poor start we are not bottom of the league, we have scored in every game bar one and even in that game have hit the woodwork twice.
There is also nothing wrong here that a couple of wins couldn't put right.
Let's not panic here but keep our heads so that the powers that be make right decisions.
If we can tighten the defence then with the attacking options we have will get many more wins this season.
MGRA
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1:04pm Wed 24 Oct 12
ghk230473 wrote:I have some "knowledge" of Southampton Football Club, and also other experience including some work I have done with/for certain footballers and clubs. The details of which I am not able to discuss here. I often get certain information that can be discussed here but I don't break confidentiality. But to give an hypothetical example, If I was to say that a certain person had no fundamental understanding of certain aspects of how to run a business, then that would have a solid basis.....
MGRA wrote:Which clubs?
ghk230473 wrote:No I am not. But I know the football business. More than most and consider this more unfortunate than a blessing at times. Its not an honourable industry. And for my sins am also a Saints fan for 40 years.
Mgra, are you an ex employee?
warrens 76
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9:08pm Wed 24 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:"Start spreading the news"..
thomasupton wrote:The odds were a hundred to one against us
OSPREYSAINT wrote:We wont beat Spurs, love to see it but not going to happen.
thomasupton wrote:There you go again with them negative waves, you don't have keep telling us these things we already know these things. Keep the faith, believe, try a little prayer or two, do anything but post silly predictions, which we have no control over. Say after me 100 times, "Saints will beat Spurs on Sunday" and try to believe it will happen.
At the end of the day we aren't winning games, and conceding like a leaky bucket. Adkins doesn't want to change anything. Surely this is a recipe for disaster. Think if we get nothing out of Sunday, sadly I think Adkins will be gone. Hope Lambert and Puncheon play and Guly isn't even considered for a seat on the bench.
The world thought the heights were too high to climb
But people from Skateland never incensed me
Oh, I wasn’t a bit concerned
For from hist’ry I had learned
How many, many times the worm had turned
They all laughed at Christopher Columbus
When he said the world was round
They all laughed when Edison recorded sound
They all laughed at Wilbur and his brother
When they said that man could fly
They told marconi
Wireless was a phony
It’s the same old cry
They laughed at me for liking Saints, true
Said I was reaching for the moon
But oh Saints, you will come through
Then they’ll have to change their tune.
Apologies to Gershwin
saintray
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5:33pm Thu 25 Oct 12
OSPREYSAINT says...
2:21pm Tue 23 Oct 12