Adkins wants Saints stay

Nigel Adkins says he doesn’t want to leave Saints but admitted “you can’t keep losing games of football.”

Saints fans have rallied round the under-fire boss, who has seen his team endure a tough start to the Premier League season after he led them to back-to-back promotions.

Last week 78 per cent of fans in a dailyecho.co.uk poll backed him to continue as boss but the pressure has now intensified again after a 2-1 defeat to Spurs and then a dismal 3-0 Capital One Cup defeat at the hands of Leeds.

Though Adkins made a full 11 changes for the trip to Elland Road, there were plenty of senior players in a team that just didn’t perform, which will inevitably lead to further questions over his future.

“I don’t want to be going anywhere,” he insisted.

“I love the club. I love Southampton Football Club.

“I want nothing more than for us to be successful together and I keep saying that but ultimately questions will get asked and I will front it all up as I always have done.

“There needs to be stability but you can’t keep losing games of football.”

He added: “People are always going to go and talk.

“Our football club wants to be successful and stability is always important at any football club.

“We want to be successful and have just had two back-to-back promotions but we have to keep kicking on and driving on.

“The chairman will make the decisions that are right for the football club and our relationship needs to be good and we have to work hard for what we’re doing.

“I have to take full responsibility for the team that crosses the white line.

“We have to address anything and if it is going wrong then we’ve got to address it any way we can for the sake of this football club because that’s what it’s about.

“The supporters have been magnificent to me, the players have gone and performed over the years but I take responsibility.

“All I want is the best for Southampton Football Club.”

Comments(92)

Norwegian Saint says...
10:54pm Tue 30 Oct 12

Nigel, you will be a legend at Saints but (if you make it to Saturday) we must get the wheels back on the bus with a positive result.
No excuses.... we have to turn this around.
Good luck!

OSPREYSAINT says...
10:58pm Tue 30 Oct 12

Do you think he may walk, before he is pushed? Will he take Crozzer with him? Jason Dodd to step in the breech, with Francis Benali as defensive adviser, and flooring expert? These questions and more will be asked/answered again in the morning.

bakeyboy says...
11:01pm Tue 30 Oct 12

Well Nige, if you genuinely want whats best for Southampton football club then its time to pack your bags and get back on the bus. Thanks for all the work you have done over the last two to three years but I'm afraid our team isn't good enough at this level and that is down to you. You had the opportunity to improve things in the summer (£33 million spent on transfers) and look where we are. I was at the game on Sunday and it was utterly unvbelievable how poor we were in the first half compared to the second half and you just dont seem to have the ability to turn things around and get any kind of consistancy in the team. All the best for the future now please NC get Hoddle in before its too late.

kent141 says...
11:15pm Tue 30 Oct 12

Im not sure if Nigel should go now,its reached rock bottom tonight and what can get worse,perhaps the 78% of happy clappers are right after all,things can only get better now.

LDNSaint says...
11:17pm Tue 30 Oct 12

bakeyboy wrote:
Well Nige, if you genuinely want whats best for Southampton football club then its time to pack your bags and get back on the bus. Thanks for all the work you have done over the last two to three years but I'm afraid our team isn't good enough at this level and that is down to you. You had the opportunity to improve things in the summer (£33 million spent on transfers) and look where we are. I was at the game on Sunday and it was utterly unvbelievable how poor we were in the first half compared to the second half and you just dont seem to have the ability to turn things around and get any kind of consistancy in the team. All the best for the future now please NC get Hoddle in before its too late.
After two promotions it takes you just nine league games to decide that Adkins isn't good enough. Nice loyalty on your part.

Fans are the first to claim lack of loyalty from players and managers (Hoddle leaving for Spurs for example), yet not even a quarter of the way into the season you want our double-promotion-win
ning manager to be sacked.

And as for Hoddle back at St Mary's, no thanks.

AmsterdamSaint says...
11:19pm Tue 30 Oct 12

Nigel Atkins is just what the Saints need. I would rather get relegated than lose him. After years of turmoil it is now a happy, stable club. Do not punish him for getting us promoted too quickly. COYS !

JackBauer24 says...
11:25pm Tue 30 Oct 12

bakeyboy wrote:
Well Nige, if you genuinely want whats best for Southampton football club then its time to pack your bags and get back on the bus. Thanks for all the work you have done over the last two to three years but I'm afraid our team isn't good enough at this level and that is down to you. You had the opportunity to improve things in the summer (£33 million spent on transfers) and look where we are. I was at the game on Sunday and it was utterly unvbelievable how poor we were in the first half compared to the second half and you just dont seem to have the ability to turn things around and get any kind of consistancy in the team. All the best for the future now please NC get Hoddle in before its too late.
Well surely the second half was proof that the players are still playing for Adkins? I agree we were terrible first half, but after a half time teamtalk, we started playing football again. We looked like the team we were last season. We spent £33 mil on transfers, yes, but how nearly half of that is out injured. I'm not making excuses, but 2 years ago today we were 21st in League 1. I know we can't live on past glories, but it should give us a bit of breathing room. In my opinion, if anything, we should give Nigel a 5 year contract tomorrow, that way, the uncertainty of how long he has left goes, and we can concentrate on playing football without the cloud of uncertainty. And if we go down, which I remain confident we won't, Nigel is the man to get us back, more prepared than before. But think of all those years fighting for survival in the 90s. Did we sack our managers then? We gave them more time. I think we're in a stronger postion now then we were then. I think the reason for the poor start was the difference of quality between Championship and Premier League. Now we're beginning to adjust imo- Fonte has looked stronger, Yoshida's beginning to adapt, Jay's scored Sunday- its beginning to fall into place.

gazw1976 says...
11:29pm Tue 30 Oct 12

no time for sentiment , time to go nige its becoming embarrassing not up to the prem an got found lacking in the championship a few times . thanks for everything but time to go , gives us almost a week to get sorted as Monday at wba will be no easy game .

JackBauer24 says...
11:47pm Tue 30 Oct 12

gazw1976 wrote:
no time for sentiment , time to go nige its becoming embarrassing not up to the prem an got found lacking in the championship a few times . thanks for everything but time to go , gives us almost a week to get sorted as Monday at wba will be no easy game .
Yeah we were terrible in the Championship... we actually slipped to 2nd! Outrageous!

Come on! We didn't fall out of the top 2 positions all season! Okay so we didn't win every game, but I think some people are getting way above their stations and thinking we're better than we are. And you think its becoming embarrassing? Really? Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Spurs, Everton... its not been the easiest of starts! Wigan and Fulham are the only games we could be doing better at.

St Retford says...
11:49pm Tue 30 Oct 12

This result changes nothing. The league remains the priority and on that I'll judge Nigel once he's got a fit first team to pick from.

Hdg end mo says...
11:51pm Tue 30 Oct 12

The club had a 5 year business plan to get back in the premiership.
under Nigel stability has been brought in the chairman gave Nigel the job and clearly saw something in him and surely still had his 5 year plan in mind.
Yes tonight was a very damaging result team selection can also be questioned but surely the players must be accountable for there actions so far this season the main problem is they are on premiership wages but most won't make it into another premiership team.
I still back Nigel as I'm sure many will we don't need a new manager also mr cortese needs to publicly back Nigel to stop all this media rubbish being printed damaging for Nigel.

SW11_Saint says...
12:03am Wed 31 Oct 12

The club are paying the price for not sorting the defence out close season. That is Cortese's fault as well as Nigel's.

I'd love for us to stick with Nigel and show some loyalty, and I love his commitment to the club. I can't see us stopping conceding though - given our Championship standard defence. That said, no other manager will fix it either until the transfer window.

Let's hope for a win or two in the next few games. Keep the faith!

Walter K says...
12:06am Wed 31 Oct 12

Don't know about the rest of you, but to me NA seems to already possess an air of resignation in his last few interviews.

Kings Lynn Saint says...
12:10am Wed 31 Oct 12

Why do some fans talk out of their backsides and say Adkins must go??

OK, we've been pretty shocking for SOME of this season, but we have also played well against top teams.

As others have said on here and other posts, we're ahead of schedule re our 5 year plan. Perhaps last season was TOO good and we should have NOT got automatic promotion having spent the ENTIRE season in the top two. Perhaps some of you fans would be happier if last season was a mediocre middle-of-the-table season, and this season we were still in the Championship? Would that make you happy????

And as for sacking Adkins!! Who would you get in who would be BETTER???? And please God do not say Redknapp or Hoddle!!!!! Surely the managers who are out of work, are out of work because they're sh!t.

Except maybe Pep Guardiola, and of course, he's sure to come to SMS isn't he!!!!!!

Now get off Adkins' back and support your team! And while you're all at it, STOP BOOING AND CRITICISING GULY AND FOX!!!!!!

JackBauer24 says...
12:21am Wed 31 Oct 12

Kings Lynn Saint wrote:
Why do some fans talk out of their backsides and say Adkins must go??

OK, we've been pretty shocking for SOME of this season, but we have also played well against top teams.

As others have said on here and other posts, we're ahead of schedule re our 5 year plan. Perhaps last season was TOO good and we should have NOT got automatic promotion having spent the ENTIRE season in the top two. Perhaps some of you fans would be happier if last season was a mediocre middle-of-the-table season, and this season we were still in the Championship? Would that make you happy????

And as for sacking Adkins!! Who would you get in who would be BETTER???? And please God do not say Redknapp or Hoddle!!!!! Surely the managers who are out of work, are out of work because they're sh!t.

Except maybe Pep Guardiola, and of course, he's sure to come to SMS isn't he!!!!!!

Now get off Adkins' back and support your team! And while you're all at it, STOP BOOING AND CRITICISING GULY AND FOX!!!!!!
Almost the perfect post. Totally agreed with everything, until you said stop critising Guly. I never boo Saints players, but I really don't like Guly and he should have gone to Forest not Sharpy. Fox, I just don't think is cut out for this level. Fonte proved me wrong, so Fox may do so too, but I'd give Luke Shaw a fair go.

Bluhat says...
12:23am Wed 31 Oct 12

St Retford wrote:
This result changes nothing. The league remains the priority and on that I'll judge Nigel once he's got a fit first team to pick from.
Im with you on this one St R !!
Nige has proved the team are still playing for him - hence 2nd half against the y!ds, think how many more chances we will create with Gaston in the line up , i just dont see a change in manager rectifying our situation.
Also as for the Boruc situation- Chapel, if you actually got behind the team for once, instead of slagging off our keeper making his home debut- then maybe you would be appreciated more like Northam/Kingsland corner/Itchen corner are!! Boruc is a very passionate player and wears his heart on his sleeve, a friend who is a Celtic fan cant speak highly enough of him- lets give him a break eh..... COYR

AmsterdamSaint says...
12:42am Wed 31 Oct 12

Kings Lynn Saint wrote:
Why do some fans talk out of their backsides and say Adkins must go??

OK, we've been pretty shocking for SOME of this season, but we have also played well against top teams.

As others have said on here and other posts, we're ahead of schedule re our 5 year plan. Perhaps last season was TOO good and we should have NOT got automatic promotion having spent the ENTIRE season in the top two. Perhaps some of you fans would be happier if last season was a mediocre middle-of-the-table season, and this season we were still in the Championship? Would that make you happy????

And as for sacking Adkins!! Who would you get in who would be BETTER???? And please God do not say Redknapp or Hoddle!!!!! Surely the managers who are out of work, are out of work because they're sh!t.

Except maybe Pep Guardiola, and of course, he's sure to come to SMS isn't he!!!!!!

Now get off Adkins' back and support your team! And while you're all at it, STOP BOOING AND CRITICISING GULY AND FOX!!!!!!
Quite right. Get behind N.A. Come on you Saints !

SaintinCanada says...
12:44am Wed 31 Oct 12

The number is now up to 33 million spent according to the mathematicians coming on this site. I must be missing something. 12 + 7 = 19.

If Corky, Ramirez and Richardson were regularly playing and results were the same then some of you NA doubters would have a point to make, but let's not exaggerate - that's the skunts' job.

I couldn't care less about the Leeds game except that it gave others in the squad a chance to have a run-out.

I stand behind the manager and the TEAM.

saintkenny says...
1:03am Wed 31 Oct 12

kent141 wrote:
Im not sure if Nigel should go now,its reached rock bottom tonight and what can get worse,perhaps the 78% of happy clappers are right after all,things can only get better now.
could be worse could be in league one ,with the threat of going under .and if comes out of admin a 10 point deduction then just 8 points already to far behind a playoff place ,no assets ground to small and outdated.forcing to cheat status .no forceable hope in the future of getting premiership standard stadium or training center.the difference here is we can afford the premier league to run by are own means .without over paying players wages ,so they will pull the shirt on.a training center of the highest standard and a stadium of premiership standard able to increase to 48.000 has plans were shown to season ticket holders.so we have for since the millenium planning for the premier league.a bit of debt came in on relagation because we built a 32 k stadium .not because we paid wages to players we could not afford.so now we own the stadium and the training ground ,so even if we went back to championship we have huge assets.compared to what they have down there.maybe its the realisation in doom that keeps them coming on here .and now the new rules are in place .from next season will make it hard for any club to cheat status ,as the stoke chairman is aware trying to get the stadium expanded .before the new rules set in.only clubs in the champions league will cover there wage bill.you will have to prove you can pay the wages .and would be able to do this.pompey not ,the future is red in white

VancouverSaint says...
3:50am Wed 31 Oct 12

I have been an avid follower of Saints since 1955 when my Dad took me to see us in the Third division. Never have I deviated from supporting my team. We have had huge up's and downs through out the years. Right now we are in the early games in the Premier League.. Don't you think that Nigel and Nicola want the best for our team. Of course they do. We are in better hands than we've been for years. Stay faithful and see what happens over the next couple of months. The League Cup means nothing.

Tirau Dan says...
5:16am Wed 31 Oct 12

End of last season a few months ago people were talking statues and greatness. After listening to the texts and tweets on Solent Radio and reading some of the posts here and elsewhere on the net I have to say I am heartily glad my family moved out to NZ in the 70s. For the first time in my life I'm ashamed of some of the so called Sotonians putting ruthless knives going into this man of honour.

For goodness sake a he put out a team that hadn't had first team games to see if they could step up to the mark. They didn't and he takes responsibility for their poor showing a few players will now probably be on the for sale list for the window at Xmas and they know it.

When I saw the team sheet I thought it was an attacking team and really thought we'd win... we didn't get over it. If Nigel put out the Firsts, lost got a couple more injuries everyone would be even more furious.. I find it two faced and totally embarrassing.

SFC fan for life. Nigel has my support.

SouthamptonLegend says...
5:58am Wed 31 Oct 12

I have inside information and I can tell Nigel Adkins is a liar.

Bet u didn't know he missed a training session last Monday... The players do not back him and the chairman has had enough.

SouthamptonLegend says...
5:58am Wed 31 Oct 12

I have inside information and I can tell you Nigel Adkins is a liar.

Bet u didn't know he missed a training session last Monday... The players do not back him and the chairman has had enough.

SouthamptonLegend says...
5:58am Wed 31 Oct 12

I have inside information and I can tell you Nigel Adkins is a liar.

Bet u didn't know he missed a training session last Monday... The players do not back him and the chairman has had enough.

Alicesdad says...
6:02am Wed 31 Oct 12

St Retford wrote:
This result changes nothing. The league remains the priority and on that I'll judge Nigel once he's got a fit first team to pick from.
Exactly !! Simple fact, well put, absolutely right. Nothing more to add.

Alicesdad says...
6:06am Wed 31 Oct 12

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
I have inside information and I can tell you Nigel Adkins is a liar.

Bet u didn't know he missed a training session last Monday... The players do not back him and the chairman has had enough.
Utter drivel. Most "inside information" spouted on any thread is usually sh*t. Which is precisely why it should be kept "inside".

Clemster says...
7:42am Wed 31 Oct 12

JackBauer24 wrote:
Kings Lynn Saint wrote:
Why do some fans talk out of their backsides and say Adkins must go??

OK, we've been pretty shocking for SOME of this season, but we have also played well against top teams.

As others have said on here and other posts, we're ahead of schedule re our 5 year plan. Perhaps last season was TOO good and we should have NOT got automatic promotion having spent the ENTIRE season in the top two. Perhaps some of you fans would be happier if last season was a mediocre middle-of-the-table season, and this season we were still in the Championship? Would that make you happy????

And as for sacking Adkins!! Who would you get in who would be BETTER???? And please God do not say Redknapp or Hoddle!!!!! Surely the managers who are out of work, are out of work because they're sh!t.

Except maybe Pep Guardiola, and of course, he's sure to come to SMS isn't he!!!!!!

Now get off Adkins' back and support your team! And while you're all at it, STOP BOOING AND CRITICISING GULY AND FOX!!!!!!
Almost the perfect post. Totally agreed with everything, until you said stop critising Guly. I never boo Saints players, but I really don't like Guly and he should have gone to Forest not Sharpy. Fox, I just don't think is cut out for this level. Fonte proved me wrong, so Fox may do so too, but I'd give Luke Shaw a fair go.
Agree with the first post also. Well said. About time some fans started "supporting" their team instead of critisising it. Adkins is a good manager but he will make mistakes and more will come. I don't blame him for the money we have spent as I don't think he has an awful lot to say with the players we have bought.

Adkins is a top guy and will become a great manager in years to come. Get off his back and some of the players backs and start supporting your team!

westendsaint says...
7:43am Wed 31 Oct 12

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
I have inside information and I can tell you Nigel Adkins is a liar.

Bet u didn't know he missed a training session last Monday... The players do not back him and the chairman has had enough.
SouthamptonLegend wrote:
I have inside information and I can tell you Nigel Adkins is a liar. Bet u didn't know he missed a training session last Monday... The players do not back him and the chairman has had enough.
SouthamptonLegend wrote:
I have inside information and I can tell you Nigel Adkins is a liar. Bet u didn't know he missed a training session last Monday... The players do not back him and the chairman has had enough.

No Wonder we've got problems !!!
Nigels had 3 Mondays off last week !!!

Shareholder says...
7:47am Wed 31 Oct 12

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
I have inside information and I can tell you Nigel Adkins is a liar.

Bet u didn't know he missed a training session last Monday... The players do not back him and the chairman has had enough.
I also have inside information. Apparently the toilets get cleaned every day. Why not jump in?

Shareholder says...
7:47am Wed 31 Oct 12

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
I have inside information and I can tell you Nigel Adkins is a liar.

Bet u didn't know he missed a training session last Monday... The players do not back him and the chairman has had enough.
I also have inside information. Apparently the toilets get cleaned every day. Why not jump in?

Shareholder says...
8:13am Wed 31 Oct 12

This is all sensationalist twaddle. Did anybody seriously think that team was going to win last night? Did anyone seriously think that a team that's never played together competitively, that was made up of mainly second and sometimes third choice players plus some promising but not yet ready youngsters would beat a seasoned set of pros pushing for promotion like Leeds? Get real people. We're in trouble in the Premiership, we're trying to get our top players fit, we didn't need the distraction of a long journey 48 hours after a tough league game to play in a tin-pot competition. We put out a side, we met our obligation, we lost, we get back to what's important - staying up! Was this the first team ? No. Is it a disaster therefore ? Of course it isn't. If it was third first team it would be worrying but it wasn't so it means nothing.

Nigel Adkins hasn't suddenly become a bad manager. Sure the defence is poor and needs improving - that can't happen till January. Sure the club failed to sign enough quality defenders in the summer. We all know the manager identified some but they didn't come. Why we'll never be told probably but we can assume the Chairman has a big responsibility for why not as much as if not more than the manager.

We saw enough in the second half on Sunday to suggest our Manager is capable of producing the goods. He just needs to find the right blend. And the defenders need to stop making basic errors though they need a change of luck as well.

So let's stop all this panicky nonsense please, support the team, support the manager, support the Chairman, support ourselves. My recollection of the last three years is the combination of all four have brought us a lot of joy, a lot of fun, a lot of success.

aldermoorboy says...
8:21am Wed 31 Oct 12

If Nigel stays we will stay up, he is a great man. Good luck Nigel, you can do it.

mike saint says...
8:25am Wed 31 Oct 12

JackBauer24 wrote:
Kings Lynn Saint wrote:
Why do some fans talk out of their backsides and say Adkins must go??

OK, we've been pretty shocking for SOME of this season, but we have also played well against top teams.

As others have said on here and other posts, we're ahead of schedule re our 5 year plan. Perhaps last season was TOO good and we should have NOT got automatic promotion having spent the ENTIRE season in the top two. Perhaps some of you fans would be happier if last season was a mediocre middle-of-the-table season, and this season we were still in the Championship? Would that make you happy????

And as for sacking Adkins!! Who would you get in who would be BETTER???? And please God do not say Redknapp or Hoddle!!!!! Surely the managers who are out of work, are out of work because they're sh!t.

Except maybe Pep Guardiola, and of course, he's sure to come to SMS isn't he!!!!!!

Now get off Adkins' back and support your team! And while you're all at it, STOP BOOING AND CRITICISING GULY AND FOX!!!!!!
Almost the perfect post. Totally agreed with everything, until you said stop critising Guly. I never boo Saints players, but I really don't like Guly and he should have gone to Forest not Sharpy. Fox, I just don't think is cut out for this level. Fonte proved me wrong, so Fox may do so too, but I'd give Luke Shaw a fair go.
Was it Luke Shaw who gave away the penalty last night, yes obviously not good enough for the prem. We already have enough defenders that make mistakes.

Hobson82 says...
8:40am Wed 31 Oct 12

St Retford wrote:
This result changes nothing. The league remains the priority and on that I'll judge Nigel once he's got a fit first team to pick from.
What a ridiculous comment.

It's very a rare any manager in this league has a fully fit team to pick from. Injuries are inevitable. Ramirez will be back soon and then we might lose Lallana or Lambert or both through injury.

A good manager will find a way to grind out results no matter what.

You can't use injuries as an excuse.

IMO Adkins is out of ideas. We need a fresh approach.

Stroppy_gramps says...
8:45am Wed 31 Oct 12

calm down.

remain calm.

Lets have a bit of perspective here.

calm.

The objective this season is merely survival. Anything more is a bonus.
calm.

All we need to be is less terrible than three other teams in the Premier League.
calm. close your eyes, breath in
As far as I'm concerned we can play horribly for the whole season as long as when the final whistle blows we are in the slot above the relegation zone
calm. breath out slowly
In fact I suggest you all type that out and tape it to the top of your monitor - All we need to do is be less terrible than three other teams in the Premier League.
calm.
this objective is entirely achievable. the transfer window is coming and I think we can all agree that the scouts are out looking for some defenders. thats good.
calm
For now, just get on the terraces and sing your heart out.
calm
calm
calm
calm

Ted Rogers says...
8:56am Wed 31 Oct 12

Any 'Fan' that calls for the sacking of Adkins is quite frankly short-sighted, anti-football and anti-SFC.

He has shown tremendous passion for this football club and an unwavering commitment to delivering a brand of football that the majority of true football lovers appreciate.
News flash for all morons, two successful years in the lower divisions does not give us a divine right for instant success in the Premiership.

kent141 says...
8:59am Wed 31 Oct 12

saintkenny wrote:
kent141 wrote:
Im not sure if Nigel should go now,its reached rock bottom tonight and what can get worse,perhaps the 78% of happy clappers are right after all,things can only get better now.
could be worse could be in league one ,with the threat of going under .and if comes out of admin a 10 point deduction then just 8 points already to far behind a playoff place ,no assets ground to small and outdated.forcing to cheat status .no forceable hope in the future of getting premiership standard stadium or training center.the difference here is we can afford the premier league to run by are own means .without over paying players wages ,so they will pull the shirt on.a training center of the highest standard and a stadium of premiership standard able to increase to 48.000 has plans were shown to season ticket holders.so we have for since the millenium planning for the premier league.a bit of debt came in on relagation because we built a 32 k stadium .not because we paid wages to players we could not afford.so now we own the stadium and the training ground ,so even if we went back to championship we have huge assets.compared to what they have down there.maybe its the realisation in doom that keeps them coming on here .and now the new rules are in place .from next season will make it hard for any club to cheat status ,as the stoke chairman is aware trying to get the stadium expanded .before the new rules set in.only clubs in the champions league will cover there wage bill.you will have to prove you can pay the wages .and would be able to do this.pompey not ,the future is red in white
What is your point exactly and what has anything got to do with pompey ?? is it pompeys fault that good old Nigel is clueless ?

St Retford says...
9:19am Wed 31 Oct 12

kent141 wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
kent141 wrote:
Im not sure if Nigel should go now,its reached rock bottom tonight and what can get worse,perhaps the 78% of happy clappers are right after all,things can only get better now.
could be worse could be in league one ,with the threat of going under .and if comes out of admin a 10 point deduction then just 8 points already to far behind a playoff place ,no assets ground to small and outdated.forcing to cheat status .no forceable hope in the future of getting premiership standard stadium or training center.the difference here is we can afford the premier league to run by are own means .without over paying players wages ,so they will pull the shirt on.a training center of the highest standard and a stadium of premiership standard able to increase to 48.000 has plans were shown to season ticket holders.so we have for since the millenium planning for the premier league.a bit of debt came in on relagation because we built a 32 k stadium .not because we paid wages to players we could not afford.so now we own the stadium and the training ground ,so even if we went back to championship we have huge assets.compared to what they have down there.maybe its the realisation in doom that keeps them coming on here .and now the new rules are in place .from next season will make it hard for any club to cheat status ,as the stoke chairman is aware trying to get the stadium expanded .before the new rules set in.only clubs in the champions league will cover there wage bill.you will have to prove you can pay the wages .and would be able to do this.pompey not ,the future is red in white
What is your point exactly and what has anything got to do with pompey ?? is it pompeys fault that good old Nigel is clueless ?
Oh boo-hoo-hoo please don't say nasty things about my precious Pompey...

alanrr says...
9:21am Wed 31 Oct 12

hopefully november will be easier, league games anyway, i back nigel too......i was a bit concerned on saturday when we never won a headed ball usually lambert gets on the end of a few..............but come monday wba, whose wheels have now fallen off, then swansea, i see 6 points for us.....when ramirez is fit he'll run rings round defences

kent141 says...
9:26am Wed 31 Oct 12

St Retford wrote:
kent141 wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
kent141 wrote:
Im not sure if Nigel should go now,its reached rock bottom tonight and what can get worse,perhaps the 78% of happy clappers are right after all,things can only get better now.
could be worse could be in league one ,with the threat of going under .and if comes out of admin a 10 point deduction then just 8 points already to far behind a playoff place ,no assets ground to small and outdated.forcing to cheat status .no forceable hope in the future of getting premiership standard stadium or training center.the difference here is we can afford the premier league to run by are own means .without over paying players wages ,so they will pull the shirt on.a training center of the highest standard and a stadium of premiership standard able to increase to 48.000 has plans were shown to season ticket holders.so we have for since the millenium planning for the premier league.a bit of debt came in on relagation because we built a 32 k stadium .not because we paid wages to players we could not afford.so now we own the stadium and the training ground ,so even if we went back to championship we have huge assets.compared to what they have down there.maybe its the realisation in doom that keeps them coming on here .and now the new rules are in place .from next season will make it hard for any club to cheat status ,as the stoke chairman is aware trying to get the stadium expanded .before the new rules set in.only clubs in the champions league will cover there wage bill.you will have to prove you can pay the wages .and would be able to do this.pompey not ,the future is red in white
What is your point exactly and what has anything got to do with pompey ?? is it pompeys fault that good old Nigel is clueless ?
Oh boo-hoo-hoo please don't say nasty things about my precious Pompey...
why do you call yourself st retford but support pompey you thicko ?

St Retford says...
9:26am Wed 31 Oct 12

alanrr wrote:
hopefully november will be easier, league games anyway, i back nigel too......i was a bit concerned on saturday when we never won a headed ball usually lambert gets on the end of a few..............but come monday wba, whose wheels have now fallen off, then swansea, i see 6 points for us.....when ramirez is fit he'll run rings round defences
Precisely. We've got the best part of a week off and then the games come thick and fast. The best part is that most of them are winnable. A decent November would change our whole outlook.

St Retford says...
9:28am Wed 31 Oct 12

kent141 wrote:
St Retford wrote:
kent141 wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
kent141 wrote:
Im not sure if Nigel should go now,its reached rock bottom tonight and what can get worse,perhaps the 78% of happy clappers are right after all,things can only get better now.
could be worse could be in league one ,with the threat of going under .and if comes out of admin a 10 point deduction then just 8 points already to far behind a playoff place ,no assets ground to small and outdated.forcing to cheat status .no forceable hope in the future of getting premiership standard stadium or training center.the difference here is we can afford the premier league to run by are own means .without over paying players wages ,so they will pull the shirt on.a training center of the highest standard and a stadium of premiership standard able to increase to 48.000 has plans were shown to season ticket holders.so we have for since the millenium planning for the premier league.a bit of debt came in on relagation because we built a 32 k stadium .not because we paid wages to players we could not afford.so now we own the stadium and the training ground ,so even if we went back to championship we have huge assets.compared to what they have down there.maybe its the realisation in doom that keeps them coming on here .and now the new rules are in place .from next season will make it hard for any club to cheat status ,as the stoke chairman is aware trying to get the stadium expanded .before the new rules set in.only clubs in the champions league will cover there wage bill.you will have to prove you can pay the wages .and would be able to do this.pompey not ,the future is red in white
What is your point exactly and what has anything got to do with pompey ?? is it pompeys fault that good old Nigel is clueless ?
Oh boo-hoo-hoo please don't say nasty things about my precious Pompey...
why do you call yourself st retford but support pompey you thicko ?
Seriously, say something nasty about Pompey. Go on: I dare you.

Stroppy_gramps says...
9:31am Wed 31 Oct 12

hows about you two get a room and leave this page for some proper debate?
Rather than name calling and threats.

You'll find no love for the Kipper shed with me - I'll be honest about that. but when I do slate the sunday league team down the road I will do it with reasoned arguments rather than just name calling....

kent141 says...
9:31am Wed 31 Oct 12

St Retford wrote:
kent141 wrote:
St Retford wrote:
kent141 wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
kent141 wrote:
Im not sure if Nigel should go now,its reached rock bottom tonight and what can get worse,perhaps the 78% of happy clappers are right after all,things can only get better now.
could be worse could be in league one ,with the threat of going under .and if comes out of admin a 10 point deduction then just 8 points already to far behind a playoff place ,no assets ground to small and outdated.forcing to cheat status .no forceable hope in the future of getting premiership standard stadium or training center.the difference here is we can afford the premier league to run by are own means .without over paying players wages ,so they will pull the shirt on.a training center of the highest standard and a stadium of premiership standard able to increase to 48.000 has plans were shown to season ticket holders.so we have for since the millenium planning for the premier league.a bit of debt came in on relagation because we built a 32 k stadium .not because we paid wages to players we could not afford.so now we own the stadium and the training ground ,so even if we went back to championship we have huge assets.compared to what they have down there.maybe its the realisation in doom that keeps them coming on here .and now the new rules are in place .from next season will make it hard for any club to cheat status ,as the stoke chairman is aware trying to get the stadium expanded .before the new rules set in.only clubs in the champions league will cover there wage bill.you will have to prove you can pay the wages .and would be able to do this.pompey not ,the future is red in white
What is your point exactly and what has anything got to do with pompey ?? is it pompeys fault that good old Nigel is clueless ?
Oh boo-hoo-hoo please don't say nasty things about my precious Pompey...
why do you call yourself st retford but support pompey you thicko ?
Seriously, say something nasty about Pompey. Go on: I dare you.
say something nasty..are you a child ?

St Retford says...
9:32am Wed 31 Oct 12

Hobson82 wrote:
St Retford wrote:
This result changes nothing. The league remains the priority and on that I'll judge Nigel once he's got a fit first team to pick from.
What a ridiculous comment.

It's very a rare any manager in this league has a fully fit team to pick from. Injuries are inevitable. Ramirez will be back soon and then we might lose Lallana or Lambert or both through injury.

A good manager will find a way to grind out results no matter what.

You can't use injuries as an excuse.

IMO Adkins is out of ideas. We need a fresh approach.
Yes but Ramirez accounted for half our transfer spending. How would Man Utd be doing if Van Persie was injured?

(Badly, is the answer btw.)

StPete says...
9:34am Wed 31 Oct 12

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
I have inside information and I can tell you Nigel Adkins is a liar.

Bet u didn't know he missed a training session last Monday... The players do not back him and the chairman has had enough.
I'm sorry, but what a load of crap.

St Retford says...
9:36am Wed 31 Oct 12

kent141 wrote:
St Retford wrote:
kent141 wrote:
St Retford wrote:
kent141 wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
kent141 wrote:
Im not sure if Nigel should go now,its reached rock bottom tonight and what can get worse,perhaps the 78% of happy clappers are right after all,things can only get better now.
could be worse could be in league one ,with the threat of going under .and if comes out of admin a 10 point deduction then just 8 points already to far behind a playoff place ,no assets ground to small and outdated.forcing to cheat status .no forceable hope in the future of getting premiership standard stadium or training center.the difference here is we can afford the premier league to run by are own means .without over paying players wages ,so they will pull the shirt on.a training center of the highest standard and a stadium of premiership standard able to increase to 48.000 has plans were shown to season ticket holders.so we have for since the millenium planning for the premier league.a bit of debt came in on relagation because we built a 32 k stadium .not because we paid wages to players we could not afford.so now we own the stadium and the training ground ,so even if we went back to championship we have huge assets.compared to what they have down there.maybe its the realisation in doom that keeps them coming on here .and now the new rules are in place .from next season will make it hard for any club to cheat status ,as the stoke chairman is aware trying to get the stadium expanded .before the new rules set in.only clubs in the champions league will cover there wage bill.you will have to prove you can pay the wages .and would be able to do this.pompey not ,the future is red in white
What is your point exactly and what has anything got to do with pompey ?? is it pompeys fault that good old Nigel is clueless ?
Oh boo-hoo-hoo please don't say nasty things about my precious Pompey...
why do you call yourself st retford but support pompey you thicko ?
Seriously, say something nasty about Pompey. Go on: I dare you.
say something nasty..are you a child ?
Can't do it, can you?

kent141 says...
9:39am Wed 31 Oct 12

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
hows about you two get a room and leave this page for some proper debate?
Rather than name calling and threats.

You'll find no love for the Kipper shed with me - I'll be honest about that. but when I do slate the sunday league team down the road I will do it with reasoned arguments rather than just name calling....
Well said stroppy !

alan.of.eastleigh says...
9:44am Wed 31 Oct 12

Bakeboy wrote....

I was at the game on Sunday and it was utterly unvbelievable how poor we were in the first half compared to the second half and you just dont seem to have the ability to turn things around

haha - the irony. So Nigel's half time shake up had no influence eh?

toutlaw says...
10:07am Wed 31 Oct 12

I don't think Adkins should go just yet he deserves to be allowed to be in charge for the games against swansea at home, qpr away, newcastle and norwich at home because they are the games we should be winning (all next month).
If we don't get many points from those then i think it is fair to call for his head.
I think Shaw should start now he's fit, he can't really be much worse than Fox can he?
Also can somebody explain to me if Cortese is making Adkins play Guly or if Adkins just has a massive blindspot there because from your attackers you don't want great pass completion rate particularly you want assists and goals!
If we have a bad November i'd like to see Strachen or a big name manager not someone like Mcleish or Coyle because that would be pointless

billythesaint says...
10:20am Wed 31 Oct 12

I was one of the 22% to say I think he should go as the poll was a definite yes or no so I had to make a choice and before anyone from the 78 brigade have a moan I'll tell you why:
The only reason we didn't go up under Pardew was we fell short due to the 10 point deduction. We had the best (ish) squad in the league with the most money spent when we got out of League One and the Championship so basically, whoever was in charge should have got us promoted. Now we're in a superior league we need a manager who doesn't rely on just positivity and friendly charm and nice bloke stuff, we need a tactician and manager with experience at the highest level which Adkins doesn't have. Adkins has basically got a job promotion by taking us here and he's not quite cut out for it. Imagine you're not a Saints fan, would you keep him? No, it makes no sense. We need to change things before we're stuck in a massive hole. His tactics fall short, substitutions don't work and after Spurs' second goal on Sunday the confidence was totally gone. You could see it in the body language of the players. I like Adkins, I wish him all the best but following Saints costs me thousands of pounds a year and I'm not putting up with this shower of sh!te any longer. Our next 5 games are totally winnable. If we don't pick up at least 9 points we need a new manager. Last chance to prove me wrong NA.

Force14 says...
10:29am Wed 31 Oct 12

98 % of Pompey fans back Adkins although 2% now want Rusty the dancing chimp to take over.....PUP

Nicole23 says...
10:30am Wed 31 Oct 12

I have the odd lazy day at work, but I only earn £350 a week. There is no excuse for it on their money.I question their fitness.

techsture says...
10:36am Wed 31 Oct 12

I'm hearing he is due to leave today, press conference being scheduled for 10am tomorrow

Dellgirl says...
10:46am Wed 31 Oct 12

Kings Lynn Saint wrote:
Why do some fans talk out of their backsides and say Adkins must go??

OK, we've been pretty shocking for SOME of this season, but we have also played well against top teams.

As others have said on here and other posts, we're ahead of schedule re our 5 year plan. Perhaps last season was TOO good and we should have NOT got automatic promotion having spent the ENTIRE season in the top two. Perhaps some of you fans would be happier if last season was a mediocre middle-of-the-table season, and this season we were still in the Championship? Would that make you happy????

And as for sacking Adkins!! Who would you get in who would be BETTER???? And please God do not say Redknapp or Hoddle!!!!! Surely the managers who are out of work, are out of work because they're sh!t.

Except maybe Pep Guardiola, and of course, he's sure to come to SMS isn't he!!!!!!

Now get off Adkins' back and support your team! And while you're all at it, STOP BOOING AND CRITICISING GULY AND FOX!!!!!!
Ahead of schedule? So the schedule was to be bottom?

Southern softy says...
10:56am Wed 31 Oct 12

I'm split as I would like NA to prove the critics wrong as I believe he will be a great manager.. but we all new the defence needed improving as they got caught out in the championship!!!

The chairman should give NA until Christmas, 3 or 4 wins a couple of new defenders in the window, survive and then see us go next season.

COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

scooter75 says...
11:09am Wed 31 Oct 12

Give N/A 3 more games to change things round.
I believe he cant cut it and have been one of the 78% for a while but he has done so well over the last couple of years i almost feel guilty wanting him to walk away.

MGRA says...
11:09am Wed 31 Oct 12

I want to stick with Nigel but those who say he got us to the Prem so there should be loyalty is nonsence.He is either upto the job of being a Prem manager or he is not. This is nothing to do with loyalty. I think he is out of his depth but this is a club problem, not an individual one. Also I must say that as good a league as the Prem is, it also attract r3tards who boo their own players..... those casual droolers should be hounded out of the game, I would not happily sit next to am ignorant a55hole who was booing our own team !?!? how is this tolerated !?!?

scooter75 says...
11:11am Wed 31 Oct 12

scooter75 wrote:
Give N/A 3 more games to change things round.
I believe he cant cut it and have been one of the 78% for a while but he has done so well over the last couple of years i almost feel guilty wanting him to walk away.
22% not 78% sorry

scooter75 says...
11:20am Wed 31 Oct 12

Force14 wrote:
98 % of Pompey fans back Adkins although 2% now want Rusty the dancing chimp to take over.....PUP
Is Rusty available in a couple of weeks time by any chance ?

stokeser says...
11:27am Wed 31 Oct 12

its about time we sacked the defensive coaches , its clear that they arnt doing their job, as all of our defenders dont know how to position themselves, mark a player, track back with a player header aball, make a clean tackle or pass to our creative players its been awful watching the school boy errors week in week out....embarrassing an understatement!!!

Lehman Bros Banker says...
11:58am Wed 31 Oct 12

Songs for Nigel, the top ten:
Should I stay or should I go (The Clash)
One step beyond (Madness)
Stay or leave (Dave Matthews Band)
Quit your low down ways (Bob Dylan)
Hello, Goodbye (Beatles)
I surrender (Celine Dion)
Beyond here lies nothin' (Bob Dylan)
Shut up and let me go (The Ting Tings)
On my way (Phil Collins)
That's it, I quit, I'm movin' on (Adele)

Tirau Dan says...
12:13pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Shareholder wrote:
This is all sensationalist twaddle. Did anybody seriously think that team was going to win last night? Did anyone seriously think that a team that's never played together competitively, that was made up of mainly second and sometimes third choice players plus some promising but not yet ready youngsters would beat a seasoned set of pros pushing for promotion like Leeds? Get real people. We're in trouble in the Premiership, we're trying to get our top players fit, we didn't need the distraction of a long journey 48 hours after a tough league game to play in a tin-pot competition. We put out a side, we met our obligation, we lost, we get back to what's important - staying up! Was this the first team ? No. Is it a disaster therefore ? Of course it isn't. If it was third first team it would be worrying but it wasn't so it means nothing.

Nigel Adkins hasn't suddenly become a bad manager. Sure the defence is poor and needs improving - that can't happen till January. Sure the club failed to sign enough quality defenders in the summer. We all know the manager identified some but they didn't come. Why we'll never be told probably but we can assume the Chairman has a big responsibility for why not as much as if not more than the manager.

We saw enough in the second half on Sunday to suggest our Manager is capable of producing the goods. He just needs to find the right blend. And the defenders need to stop making basic errors though they need a change of luck as well.

So let's stop all this panicky nonsense please, support the team, support the manager, support the Chairman, support ourselves. My recollection of the last three years is the combination of all four have brought us a lot of joy, a lot of fun, a lot of success.
Wheat amongst the chaff,, good on you share holder. well said.

CB FRY LIVES says...
12:19pm Wed 31 Oct 12

alanrr wrote:
hopefully november will be easier, league games anyway, i back nigel too......i was a bit concerned on saturday when we never won a headed ball usually lambert gets on the end of a few..............but come monday wba, whose wheels have now fallen off, then swansea, i see 6 points for us.....when ramirez is fit he'll run rings round defences
I hope you are right about Ramirez.I have been expecting Tad. Lee to cause the opposition a lot of trouble when he gets back into action.well he was back last night and looked anything but a qualty international player.i fear that when Ramirez does get back he will find the cold,windy wet English winter waether difficult to adapt to at first.Come next spring he should work his magic.i can remember some great South American players coming to england over the years and being as miserable on the pitch as our winter weather.lets hope Ramirez is an exception to this and can find his best form straight away when he does eventually return.

CB FRY LIVES says...
12:24pm Wed 31 Oct 12

JackBauer24 wrote:
bakeyboy wrote:
Well Nige, if you genuinely want whats best for Southampton football club then its time to pack your bags and get back on the bus. Thanks for all the work you have done over the last two to three years but I'm afraid our team isn't good enough at this level and that is down to you. You had the opportunity to improve things in the summer (£33 million spent on transfers) and look where we are. I was at the game on Sunday and it was utterly unvbelievable how poor we were in the first half compared to the second half and you just dont seem to have the ability to turn things around and get any kind of consistancy in the team. All the best for the future now please NC get Hoddle in before its too late.
Well surely the second half was proof that the players are still playing for Adkins? I agree we were terrible first half, but after a half time teamtalk, we started playing football again. We looked like the team we were last season. We spent £33 mil on transfers, yes, but how nearly half of that is out injured. I'm not making excuses, but 2 years ago today we were 21st in League 1. I know we can't live on past glories, but it should give us a bit of breathing room. In my opinion, if anything, we should give Nigel a 5 year contract tomorrow, that way, the uncertainty of how long he has left goes, and we can concentrate on playing football without the cloud of uncertainty. And if we go down, which I remain confident we won't, Nigel is the man to get us back, more prepared than before. But think of all those years fighting for survival in the 90s. Did we sack our managers then? We gave them more time. I think we're in a stronger postion now then we were then. I think the reason for the poor start was the difference of quality between Championship and Premier League. Now we're beginning to adjust imo- Fonte has looked stronger, Yoshida's beginning to adapt, Jay's scored Sunday- its beginning to fall into place.
you obviously weren't watching the Leeds match.Saints were woeful in both halves.the alarming thing is that if we get relegated this season the 11 on show last night at Elland Road are likely to be our first team next year..They would struggle like they did last night.

nuttysaint says...
12:26pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Tirau Dan wrote:
End of last season a few months ago people were talking statues and greatness. After listening to the texts and tweets on Solent Radio and reading some of the posts here and elsewhere on the net I have to say I am heartily glad my family moved out to NZ in the 70s. For the first time in my life I'm ashamed of some of the so called Sotonians putting ruthless knives going into this man of honour.

For goodness sake a he put out a team that hadn't had first team games to see if they could step up to the mark. They didn't and he takes responsibility for their poor showing a few players will now probably be on the for sale list for the window at Xmas and they know it.

When I saw the team sheet I thought it was an attacking team and really thought we'd win... we didn't get over it. If Nigel put out the Firsts, lost got a couple more injuries everyone would be even more furious.. I find it two faced and totally embarrassing.

SFC fan for life. Nigel has my support.
good post!!! i couldnt care less about this cup. Cortese wont sack him because we lost in this competition. Like you say if Lambert & Lallana got injured, people on here would moan about him playin them in first place. I still dont get tho why he plays guly in every game, theres something not right there. he plays with no passion, is lazy, mis places most passes yet still manages to get on the field every game whilst theres better players on the bench that would be more effective in a game

Ontario Saint says...
12:54pm Wed 31 Oct 12

I cant believe the Echo is back at it stirring things up for Nigel Atkins. Why don't they come out in support of Nigel rather than indirectly questioning his ability to manage the club in the Premiership.
The trouble with Nigel is he is too nice a guy and always takes the responsibility for his decisions. The Echo then uses it to repeat the same old story they have written so many times in the past 2-3 weeks....very poor journalism or sensationalism in my humble opinion.
I for one think NA did the right thing last night and his reasons for resting his top 11 were totally valid. Yes the team he picked all had the opportunity to prove themselves. Unfortunately it did not work which proved the current first eleven are the best choices on current form.
In Nigel"s favour he changed the team around against Wednesday in the previous round and at that time we won and it showed the depth the squad has.
Confidence is what the Manager and team needs not repetitive sensationalism from the Echo. writing the same story so many times.
Please Mr Editor reinstall the confidence in Mr Adkins ability to manage the Club and take us forward from here.
The Club had back to back promotions and are 2 years ahead in their game plan. Articles such as the Echo are writing are self destructive to the Club and are an insult to Nigel.
Please step up Mr Editor and come out in support of Nigel before it is too late. Articles like this will destroy the confidence Nigel and the players need for moving forward from here
Thank you for listening

.

Ontario Saint says...
12:54pm Wed 31 Oct 12

I cant believe the Echo is back at it stirring things up for Nigel Atkins. Why don't they come out in support of Nigel rather than indirectly questioning his ability to manage the club in the Premiership.
The trouble with Nigel is he is too nice a guy and always takes the responsibility for his decisions. The Echo then uses it to repeat the same old story they have written so many times in the past 2-3 weeks....very poor journalism or sensationalism in my humble opinion.
I for one think NA did the right thing last night and his reasons for resting his top 11 were totally valid. Yes the team he picked all had the opportunity to prove themselves. Unfortunately it did not work which proved the current first eleven are the best choices on current form.
In Nigel"s favour he changed the team around against Wednesday in the previous round and at that time we won and it showed the depth the squad has.
Confidence is what the Manager and team needs not repetitive sensationalism from the Echo. writing the same story so many times.
Please Mr Editor reinstall the confidence in Mr Adkins ability to manage the Club and take us forward from here.
The Club had back to back promotions and are 2 years ahead in their game plan. Articles such as the Echo are writing are self destructive to the Club and are an insult to Nigel.
Please step up Mr Editor and come out in support of Nigel before it is too late. Articles like this will destroy the confidence Nigel and the players need for moving forward from here
Thank you for listening

.

Ontario Saint says...
12:54pm Wed 31 Oct 12

I cant believe the Echo is back at it stirring things up for Nigel Atkins. Why don't they come out in support of Nigel rather than indirectly questioning his ability to manage the club in the Premiership.
The trouble with Nigel is he is too nice a guy and always takes the responsibility for his decisions. The Echo then uses it to repeat the same old story they have written so many times in the past 2-3 weeks....very poor journalism or sensationalism in my humble opinion.
I for one think NA did the right thing last night and his reasons for resting his top 11 were totally valid. Yes the team he picked all had the opportunity to prove themselves. Unfortunately it did not work which proved the current first eleven are the best choices on current form.
In Nigel"s favour he changed the team around against Wednesday in the previous round and at that time we won and it showed the depth the squad has.
Confidence is what the Manager and team needs not repetitive sensationalism from the Echo. writing the same story so many times.
Please Mr Editor reinstall the confidence in Mr Adkins ability to manage the Club and take us forward from here.
The Club had back to back promotions and are 2 years ahead in their game plan. Articles such as the Echo are writing are self destructive to the Club and are an insult to Nigel.
Please step up Mr Editor and come out in support of Nigel before it is too late. Articles like this will destroy the confidence Nigel and the players need for moving forward from here
Thank you for listening

.

Stroppy_gramps says...
1:05pm Wed 31 Oct 12

dear oh dear.

so you all expected Lee to come back onto the pitch and perform miracles?
when did he last play?

Last night was the perfect opportunity to give him some game time - which is what he needs after being out for so long with injuries.

it was a league cup match - of no importance to the over all goal of staying up.

WE ONLY NEED TO FINISH OUTSIDE THE RELEGATION ZONE.

we've had a really tough start to the season playing pretty much all of the top side straightaway. We are now getting into matches that we have a good chance of winning.

Get on those terraces, give the team your full support and stop bemoaning losses that aren't important to us.

St.Yorkie says...
1:17pm Wed 31 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
alanrr wrote: hopefully november will be easier, league games anyway, i back nigel too......i was a bit concerned on saturday when we never won a headed ball usually lambert gets on the end of a few..............but come monday wba, whose wheels have now fallen off, then swansea, i see 6 points for us.....when ramirez is fit he'll run rings round defences
I hope you are right about Ramirez.I have been expecting Tad. Lee to cause the opposition a lot of trouble when he gets back into action.well he was back last night and looked anything but a qualty international player.i fear that when Ramirez does get back he will find the cold,windy wet English winter waether difficult to adapt to at first.Come next spring he should work his magic.i can remember some great South American players coming to england over the years and being as miserable on the pitch as our winter weather.lets hope Ramirez is an exception to this and can find his best form straight away when he does eventually return.
Give Lee the service to do what he's good at and he will do the business. He needs the ball in front of him facing goal - not behind him! He's not a holding midfield player or a target man - he's a winger with pace.
He wasn't at the races last night because no one in the team recognised they need to release the ball early in behind the defence!

St.Yorkie says...
1:26pm Wed 31 Oct 12

In the cold light of day - last night was no more than a training exercise, and the players responded in kind except for a few.
No one really got stuck in - everytime they did the referee blew for a foul. The slightest contact ended up with a Leeds player on his backside - foul!
It was a run out for Lee - nothing more. No lightning runs, no balls out wide, nothing. He covered a lot of ground to no avail as no one passed it to him!
Disappointed with Mayuka - but again playing out of position and asked to be the lone striker/target man. Not his fault he never got the ball - or is it?
The frustrating thing for me was all the good possession across the back was constantly being undone by a sloppy pass to someone in midfield with 3-players closing in on him! It's almost as if the understand about keeping the ball - do it for a couple of minutes and then give it someone else to do something with because they don't want to pass it sideways again!
It's over, no good trying to rectify last nights result (a bit like the penalty given on 90+3) we can't change anything.
Move on - see what happens at WBA on Monday night...and have a good moan then whatever the result!
Are we supporters or moaners?
Perhaps we shouldn't underestimate Leeds last night - with 4-ex Pompey players "up for it" made them more combatative?

saintsupnorth says...
1:26pm Wed 31 Oct 12

There has been alot of talk about stability, but all this talk and speculation surrounding NA is creating nothing but the reverse. If the board really wants the club to get over this, then they should come out a publicly back NA to stop all the negative comments so the club can move on in a positive way. The players have spoken out at how much they want NA to stay in charge, but it is plainly clear they are been effected by all the news and comments regarding NA future. Time we got on another bus, its called cut out the C**p bus. Because this is getting the club nowhere, it all started as soon as the wigan game and people wonder why we loose games?. Mainly because of people not backing the players and the manager. So far this season i have spent over 2 grand traveling etc to games. yet i still back NA out of respect and loyalty, something that he gives the club everyday so it is only far to give him the same back. Do i want to see the revolving manager door again with no clue what is gonna happen next, think the answer most would say is no.

Nicole23 says...
1:55pm Wed 31 Oct 12

We need to play dirtier, diving, elbowing , crunching tackles, hand balls. It works for the top 4 so why not ?

Glenn(Leeds) says...
2:24pm Wed 31 Oct 12

JackBauer24 wrote:
Kings Lynn Saint wrote: Why do some fans talk out of their backsides and say Adkins must go?? OK, we've been pretty shocking for SOME of this season, but we have also played well against top teams. As others have said on here and other posts, we're ahead of schedule re our 5 year plan. Perhaps last season was TOO good and we should have NOT got automatic promotion having spent the ENTIRE season in the top two. Perhaps some of you fans would be happier if last season was a mediocre middle-of-the-table season, and this season we were still in the Championship? Would that make you happy???? And as for sacking Adkins!! Who would you get in who would be BETTER???? And please God do not say Redknapp or Hoddle!!!!! Surely the managers who are out of work, are out of work because they're sh!t. Except maybe Pep Guardiola, and of course, he's sure to come to SMS isn't he!!!!!! Now get off Adkins' back and support your team! And while you're all at it, STOP BOOING AND CRITICISING GULY AND FOX!!!!!!
Almost the perfect post. Totally agreed with everything, until you said stop critising Guly. I never boo Saints players, but I really don't like Guly and he should have gone to Forest not Sharpy. Fox, I just don't think is cut out for this level. Fonte proved me wrong, so Fox may do so too, but I'd give Luke Shaw a fair go.
Good news last night, Guly didnt get any boo's from us fans, It was good to hear fans singing his name.

OSPREYSAINT says...
2:34pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Force14 wrote:
98 % of Pompey fans back Adkins although 2% now want Rusty the dancing chimp to take over.....PUP
Are the RSPCA aware of your abuse and misuse of simians?

OSPREYSAINT says...
2:37pm Wed 31 Oct 12

kent141 wrote:
Im not sure if Nigel should go now,its reached rock bottom tonight and what can get worse,perhaps the 78% of happy clappers are right after all,things can only get better now.
They could, but I bet you hope they don't, you would have nothing to moan about. Second thoughts you would soon find something negative to bleat about whatever the outcome.

CB FRY LIVES says...
3:09pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Shareholder wrote:
This is all sensationalist twaddle. Did anybody seriously think that team was going to win last night? Did anyone seriously think that a team that's never played together competitively, that was made up of mainly second and sometimes third choice players plus some promising but not yet ready youngsters would beat a seasoned set of pros pushing for promotion like Leeds? Get real people. We're in trouble in the Premiership, we're trying to get our top players fit, we didn't need the distraction of a long journey 48 hours after a tough league game to play in a tin-pot competition. We put out a side, we met our obligation, we lost, we get back to what's important - staying up! Was this the first team ? No. Is it a disaster therefore ? Of course it isn't. If it was third first team it would be worrying but it wasn't so it means nothing.

Nigel Adkins hasn't suddenly become a bad manager. Sure the defence is poor and needs improving - that can't happen till January. Sure the club failed to sign enough quality defenders in the summer. We all know the manager identified some but they didn't come. Why we'll never be told probably but we can assume the Chairman has a big responsibility for why not as much as if not more than the manager.

We saw enough in the second half on Sunday to suggest our Manager is capable of producing the goods. He just needs to find the right blend. And the defenders need to stop making basic errors though they need a change of luck as well.

So let's stop all this panicky nonsense please, support the team, support the manager, support the Chairman, support ourselves. My recollection of the last three years is the combination of all four have brought us a lot of joy, a lot of fun, a lot of success.
a good manager on top of his game would put out a winning x1.Did the players let the manager who picked them down.YES THEY SURE DID.did the manager let the travelling fans down by picking an inexperienced bench.Yes he did but let us hope he gets the selection right on Monday v WBA

CB FRY LIVES says...
3:20pm Wed 31 Oct 12

St.Yorkie wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
alanrr wrote: hopefully november will be easier, league games anyway, i back nigel too......i was a bit concerned on saturday when we never won a headed ball usually lambert gets on the end of a few..............but come monday wba, whose wheels have now fallen off, then swansea, i see 6 points for us.....when ramirez is fit he'll run rings round defences
I hope you are right about Ramirez.I have been expecting Tad. Lee to cause the opposition a lot of trouble when he gets back into action.well he was back last night and looked anything but a qualty international player.i fear that when Ramirez does get back he will find the cold,windy wet English winter waether difficult to adapt to at first.Come next spring he should work his magic.i can remember some great South American players coming to england over the years and being as miserable on the pitch as our winter weather.lets hope Ramirez is an exception to this and can find his best form straight away when he does eventually return.
Give Lee the service to do what he's good at and he will do the business. He needs the ball in front of him facing goal - not behind him! He's not a holding midfield player or a target man - he's a winger with pace.
He wasn't at the races last night because no one in the team recognised they need to release the ball early in behind the defence!
fAIR POINT. but why didn't the coaching staff instruct the players to give the ball to LEE.Alan Ball's mantra when manager was give the ball to Matt LE TISSIER at every available occasion.The backroom staff are ok at youth level but at the top level they are pants.All this rubbish about playing the same formation throughout the club at all levels.It hasn't worked this season at first team level.Adkins is slow to adapt to using different formations.Last night MAYUKA was too isolated up front on his own yet nothing was done to give him any support.Lee is wasted in midfield or out wide unless he is given the service to cut inside and release one of his thunderbolts.no sign of that last night.

Force14 says...
3:55pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Rusty the Dancing Chimp has spoke his first six words ....." you have to win football games "
Looks like your next manager knows his stuff........

angus mc coatup says...
4:22pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Force14 wrote:
Rusty the Dancing Chimp has spoke his first six words ....." you have to win football games "
Looks like your next manager knows his stuff........
force kin, you just do one

Chipster says...
5:23pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Force14 wrote:
Rusty the Dancing Chimp has spoke his first six words ....." you have to win football games "
Looks like your next manager knows his stuff........
Forceskin,

Just what is there for you to crow about? That we've lost a few games?

Its still early days me old Skunt, we'll turn it around. But if not and we are relegated, so what? We will have the parachute payments and bounce straight back, I don't suppose you'll know what a parachute payment is do you seeing it went straight to the administrator! Ouch!

Which brings me nicely to your little club, AFC Dynarod! Now where and what league are you in right now? And of course, there is the confirmed prospect of at least another -10 or perhaps even more points deduction. Now that's gotta sting!
Need I go on me old Plastic Cockney? Methinks you and the rest of the "pond life" have far more to fear than we do! Liquidation anyone?

kent141 says...
5:29pm Wed 31 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
kent141 wrote:
Im not sure if Nigel should go now,its reached rock bottom tonight and what can get worse,perhaps the 78% of happy clappers are right after all,things can only get better now.
They could, but I bet you hope they don't, you would have nothing to moan about. Second thoughts you would soon find something negative to bleat about whatever the outcome.
There is something to moan about though isent there, eeeeeer 4 points from 9 games and getting stuffed by leeds.

Scarborosaint says...
5:42pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Nigel forget about the minority who want you out, true supporters who remember where we were 3 years ago playing Exeter and Hartlepool alike are grateful for delivering premiership football to our club, you deserve every chance to keep us up and develop our young players, if we can survive this year I am sure we can establish ourselves like fulham and Stoke in this league . Heard hoddle and twitchy mentioned , laughable we have the best man in place already nothing has changed since the day we got promoted , record crowds , entertaining football, great young up and coming players just need to improve defensively be harder to beat and for the minority to show some more faith and stop daydreaming that the premiership would be easy

Normandy says...
5:55pm Wed 31 Oct 12

scooter75 wrote:
Give N/A 3 more games to change things round.
I believe he cant cut it and have been one of the 78% for a while but he has done so well over the last couple of years i almost feel guilty wanting him to walk away.
Agree about feeling guilty
But not about being fed up with results
A dilema for us all

Shareholder says...
5:57pm Wed 31 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
This is all sensationalist twaddle. Did anybody seriously think that team was going to win last night? Did anyone seriously think that a team that's never played together competitively, that was made up of mainly second and sometimes third choice players plus some promising but not yet ready youngsters would beat a seasoned set of pros pushing for promotion like Leeds? Get real people. We're in trouble in the Premiership, we're trying to get our top players fit, we didn't need the distraction of a long journey 48 hours after a tough league game to play in a tin-pot competition. We put out a side, we met our obligation, we lost, we get back to what's important - staying up! Was this the first team ? No. Is it a disaster therefore ? Of course it isn't. If it was third first team it would be worrying but it wasn't so it means nothing.

Nigel Adkins hasn't suddenly become a bad manager. Sure the defence is poor and needs improving - that can't happen till January. Sure the club failed to sign enough quality defenders in the summer. We all know the manager identified some but they didn't come. Why we'll never be told probably but we can assume the Chairman has a big responsibility for why not as much as if not more than the manager.

We saw enough in the second half on Sunday to suggest our Manager is capable of producing the goods. He just needs to find the right blend. And the defenders need to stop making basic errors though they need a change of luck as well.

So let's stop all this panicky nonsense please, support the team, support the manager, support the Chairman, support ourselves. My recollection of the last three years is the combination of all four have brought us a lot of joy, a lot of fun, a lot of success.
a good manager on top of his game would put out a winning x1.Did the players let the manager who picked them down.YES THEY SURE DID.did the manager let the travelling fans down by picking an inexperienced bench.Yes he did but let us hope he gets the selection right on Monday v WBA
Sure. And lots of so called top teams with so called top managers year in, year out, field weak teams which get dumped out of this cup. I notice Man City, Everton and Newcastle all failed to get as far as us. Quite rightly Nigel Adkins chose to rest his best players and give a game to the second stringers and some youngsters. Good management on my view. Or would you rather he'd risked injuries against another robust Warnock side in a competition that United or Chelsea or Arsenal are going to win anyway. I know which I'd prefer and that's staying up!

TEBOURBA says...
6:27pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Poor old NA's quotes are getting more desperate with every successive defeat.
NA and Saints needed a run in the League Cup like a hole in the head, I'm glad we are out of it, at least players won't get injured and we can now concentrate on staying in the PL with as strong a squad as possible.
If results continue the way they have gone up until now, then by January it will be too late to turn things around no matter how many new players are signed.
If nothing changes then neither will the results.
The easiest way to make something happen and change for the good would be to bring in an experienced PL coach like Hoddle to help NA find his feet in the PL, this needn't be seen as a threat to NA but as assistance.
I do not want NA to be sacked but as long as we keep losing and NC sits on his hands and says and does nothing then I think it will be inevitable.
Perhaps a more knowledgeable poster can advise me, if Saints are relegated what lump sum parachute payment would Saints receive?
If it is substantial, I wouldn't mind betting that NC might just bank it, take his bonus and sever his connections with the club, maybe that's why NC has stayed so quiet for so long allowing poor old Nigel to take the flak.
Can't see Saints coming away from the Hawthorns with anything better than a defeat by at least 2 clear goals, plenty of time then for Nigel to compose his lament.
Our only hope is to bring in a coach NOW who knows something about playing in the Premier League clearly NA, NC, the coaching staff and the players don't have a clue.

dadofmy3sons says...
7:18pm Wed 31 Oct 12

the borer, I have already pointed out to you on 3 separate occasions that Glen Hoddle does not have the superior record you claim for him.
His last management position in England was Wolves and he got the sack as the lowest goalscoring team in several seasons and demonstrations by Wolves fans to get rid of him.
He was sacked by Spurs and he didn't get us any higher up the table than several previous Saints managers.
Cortese to take a bonus and clear off?
Don't you think he could have paid himself a massive bonus already ?
Some of your thinking is quite bizarre.
Support the Saints?
I do !

Kings Lynn Saint says...
8:46pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Dellgirl wrote:
Kings Lynn Saint wrote:
Why do some fans talk out of their backsides and say Adkins must go??

OK, we've been pretty shocking for SOME of this season, but we have also played well against top teams.

As others have said on here and other posts, we're ahead of schedule re our 5 year plan. Perhaps last season was TOO good and we should have NOT got automatic promotion having spent the ENTIRE season in the top two. Perhaps some of you fans would be happier if last season was a mediocre middle-of-the-table season, and this season we were still in the Championship? Would that make you happy????

And as for sacking Adkins!! Who would you get in who would be BETTER???? And please God do not say Redknapp or Hoddle!!!!! Surely the managers who are out of work, are out of work because they're sh!t.

Except maybe Pep Guardiola, and of course, he's sure to come to SMS isn't he!!!!!!

Now get off Adkins' back and support your team! And while you're all at it, STOP BOOING AND CRITICISING GULY AND FOX!!!!!!
Ahead of schedule? So the schedule was to be bottom?
Well obviously not, I was referring to our promotion to the Premier League!!!!

VancouverSaint says...
4:07am Thu 1 Nov 12

TEBOURBA wrote:
Poor old NA's quotes are getting more desperate with every successive defeat.
NA and Saints needed a run in the League Cup like a hole in the head, I'm glad we are out of it, at least players won't get injured and we can now concentrate on staying in the PL with as strong a squad as possible.
If results continue the way they have gone up until now, then by January it will be too late to turn things around no matter how many new players are signed.
If nothing changes then neither will the results.
The easiest way to make something happen and change for the good would be to bring in an experienced PL coach like Hoddle to help NA find his feet in the PL, this needn't be seen as a threat to NA but as assistance.
I do not want NA to be sacked but as long as we keep losing and NC sits on his hands and says and does nothing then I think it will be inevitable.
Perhaps a more knowledgeable poster can advise me, if Saints are relegated what lump sum parachute payment would Saints receive?
If it is substantial, I wouldn't mind betting that NC might just bank it, take his bonus and sever his connections with the club, maybe that's why NC has stayed so quiet for so long allowing poor old Nigel to take the flak.
Can't see Saints coming away from the Hawthorns with anything better than a defeat by at least 2 clear goals, plenty of time then for Nigel to compose his lament.
Our only hope is to bring in a coach NOW who knows something about playing in the Premier League clearly NA, NC, the coaching staff and the players don't have a clue.
What a load of crap this post is. Speculation and halutiations throughout. Saints need sensible, calculated management not a smash and grab Rednapp. Hoddle (experienced?) is another manager that nobody has taken. Does that not say something?
Stay and see what happens for the next 8 weeks. We will not be too far out of touch of 17th by Christmas. Keep the faith. Support your team.

saintsfanfairoak says...
12:32pm Thu 1 Nov 12

I Think the Echo should get behind Saints,instead of all this garbage on rumours and unsettling every one/
Nigel Adkins needs help,from the players,the fans and the board.

If Na was too manage Man United in there next game,the team would pick itself and the players would know whats expected,you could probably sit in the dug out and read a book the whole 90 mins and get a win.
The point is were new boys here,forget the past ,we probably have 5 players that are up to this level,
which is half the problem,you can shuffle the chairs on the titanic type of thing.
The problem now is the time we have to wait to january,is Na still gonna be here,what funds we have and the quality we buy,i dont wont Na to go or be sacked but i feel we need something right now and january is too far to wait.
COYR always support the saints,

saintsfanfairoak says...
12:33pm Thu 1 Nov 12

I Think the Echo should get behind Saints,instead of all this garbage on rumours and unsettling every one/
Nigel Adkins needs help,from the players,the fans and the board.

If Na was too manage Man United in there next game,the team would pick itself and the players would know whats expected,you could probably sit in the dug out and read a book the whole 90 mins and get a win.
The point is were new boys here,forget the past ,we probably have 5 players that are up to this level,
which is half the problem,you can shuffle the chairs on the titanic type of thing.
The problem now is the time we have to wait to january,is Na still gonna be here,what funds we have and the quality we buy,i dont wont Na to go or be sacked but i feel we need something right now and january is too far to wait.
COYR always support the saints,

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