Why all Saints fans owe Pardew a big debt

Daily Echo: ALAN PARDEW ALAN PARDEW

Saints fans wondering how they should greet Alan Pardew should keep in mind they might not be facing Alan Pardew this Sunday without Alan Pardew.

It’s always hard to predict the welcome that returning managers and players will get.

But if anybody deserves to very warmly welcomed, then it’s Pardew.

Quite simply Saints might not be back in the Premier League were it not for him.

His time in charge might have been relatively short, but the signings he made and the changes he instigated laid the pathway for Nigel Adkins to forge ahead.

When Pardew was appointed Saints manager in July 2009 he inherited a rag bag squad, full of self-doubt and angst having just been relegated from the Championship and having had the experience of going through an uncertain administration.

His job was a tough one.

Speaking to Pardew in those early days was enlightening.

Whilst many spoke of potential signings, formations and line-ups, Pardew focussed much more on something hugely important – restoring a winning mentality to the club.

He saw a group of players, a club even, that was browbeaten, battered and bruised by a tough and cruel period in its history.

That mindset can be very hard to break, even with new signings.

So for Pardew, a winner as a player and manager, it was about turning that around.

His approach was always considered.

The squad had mixed feelings about whether they particularly liked him or not m– but, boy, did they respect him.

And as a football manager, that is all you need.

The early weeks of his time in charge were testing.

Due to the timing of the Markus Liebherr takeover he had little pre-season to speak of, little room to change too much or bring in many new faces.

So Saints flew head first into the 2009/10 League 1 season with Pardew battling to turn it around as he went.

Anybody who was unfortunate enough to see the early-season draw at Stockport will know how painful a process it was.

It was made even harder by the ten point dedication which meant Saints remained rooted towards the bottom for a long time while they found the right formula.

But, slowly but surely, he did turn it around.

That winning mentality was starting to spread through the club, through the manager, always tough and straight with the players, feeding it down through the dressing room.

As the season wore on, Saints hit their stride.

In such a short space of time Pardew had transformed Saints from a club who could barely remember how to win to a club who never thought they would ever lose.

The season culminated gloriously, Saints finishing just outside the play-offs despite that hefty points loss and inevitably slow start, and winning the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy at Wembley, a wonderful day out and the epitome of the new upbeat attitude to life at St Mary’s.

Of course, a large part of that success, and his tremendous Saints legacy, were the players who Padrew signed.

Rickie Lambert, Dan Harding, Dean Hammond, Jose Fonte, Radhi Jaidi, Lee Barnard, Jason Puncheon, Danny Butterfield, Frazer Richardson, David Connolly.

These were the backbone of a team that Adkins would inherit, and largely leave unchanged for two seasons, who fired Saints to back-to-back promotions.

Pardew had built a team that any manager worth his salt should have got out of League One.

Adkins went one better with largely the same squad and got them into the top flight.

Only now is the team Adkins is fielding starting to look entirely his own rather than Pardew’s.

Saints fans should reflect just how much of their incredible journey they owe to Pardew.

He deserves the very warmest of welcomes.

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4:46pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Little Hitler says...

I'd be surprised if anyone here had a bad word to say about him.

Except for the forum trolls, shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
I'd be surprised if anyone here had a bad word to say about him. Except for the forum trolls, shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Little Hitler

4:49pm Fri 23 Nov 12

scooter75 says...

The Glorious Paint Trophy...Still brings tears to the eye.
The Glorious Paint Trophy...Still brings tears to the eye. scooter75

4:57pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Little Hitler says...

Shhhhhhhhhh!

007
Shhhhhhhhhh! 007 Little Hitler

5:00pm Fri 23 Nov 12

likewatchingbrazil says...

3 points for us Sunday and then another 3 on Wednesday "come on lets be avin you"
coyr
ps
does anyone know if that crock of sh@t poopey are still going, it's just their quite near but you never here of them anymore.
3 points for us Sunday and then another 3 on Wednesday "come on lets be avin you" coyr ps does anyone know if that crock of sh@t poopey are still going, it's just their quite near but you never here of them anymore. likewatchingbrazil

5:00pm Fri 23 Nov 12

kent141 says...

Ahhh The Paint Pot....70,000 Stains at wembley and 300,000 celebrating on southampton common for 2 days non-stop. Glorious indeed.
Ahhh The Paint Pot....70,000 Stains at wembley and 300,000 celebrating on southampton common for 2 days non-stop. Glorious indeed. kent141

5:03pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Little Hitler says...

likewatchingbrazil wrote:
3 points for us Sunday and then another 3 on Wednesday "come on lets be avin you"
coyr
ps
does anyone know if that crock of sh@t poopey are still going, it's just their quite near but you never here of them anymore.
My understanding is that they closed a few months ago.
[quote][p][bold]likewatchingbrazil[/bold] wrote: 3 points for us Sunday and then another 3 on Wednesday "come on lets be avin you" coyr ps does anyone know if that crock of sh@t poopey are still going, it's just their quite near but you never here of them anymore.[/p][/quote]My understanding is that they closed a few months ago. Little Hitler

5:09pm Fri 23 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

I will always praise AP for the good that he did and thank him for it, Wembley was an amazing experience. However it is different now, he is on the opposing side and it's NA I support now. Time to move on.
I will always praise AP for the good that he did and thank him for it, Wembley was an amazing experience. However it is different now, he is on the opposing side and it's NA I support now. Time to move on. OSPREYSAINT

5:14pm Fri 23 Nov 12

scooter75 says...

kent141 wrote:
Ahhh The Paint Pot....70,000 Stains at wembley and 300,000 celebrating on southampton common for 2 days non-stop. Glorious indeed.
Legend is it was 85,000 stains at wembley, apparantly a record and in the history books
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: Ahhh The Paint Pot....70,000 Stains at wembley and 300,000 celebrating on southampton common for 2 days non-stop. Glorious indeed.[/p][/quote]Legend is it was 85,000 stains at wembley, apparantly a record and in the history books scooter75

5:18pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Little Hitler says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
I will always praise AP for the good that he did and thank him for it, Wembley was an amazing experience. However it is different now, he is on the opposing side and it's NA I support now. Time to move on.
Correct.

Wembley was about far more than winning the windscreen wiper cup.

That really was the day we turned the corner.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: I will always praise AP for the good that he did and thank him for it, Wembley was an amazing experience. However it is different now, he is on the opposing side and it's NA I support now. Time to move on.[/p][/quote]Correct. Wembley was about far more than winning the windscreen wiper cup. That really was the day we turned the corner. Little Hitler

5:26pm Fri 23 Nov 12

likewatchingbrazil says...

Little Hitler wrote:
likewatchingbrazil wrote: 3 points for us Sunday and then another 3 on Wednesday "come on lets be avin you" coyr ps does anyone know if that crock of sh@t poopey are still going, it's just their quite near but you never here of them anymore.
My understanding is that they closed a few months ago.
thats good then, i was getting worried as their pack the park was going so well, think it reached 6000 at one point. i expect them all to be following us now then, have to look out for that the first signs will be them coming on here i guess.
coyr
[quote][p][bold]Little Hitler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]likewatchingbrazil[/bold] wrote: 3 points for us Sunday and then another 3 on Wednesday "come on lets be avin you" coyr ps does anyone know if that crock of sh@t poopey are still going, it's just their quite near but you never here of them anymore.[/p][/quote]My understanding is that they closed a few months ago.[/p][/quote]thats good then, i was getting worried as their pack the park was going so well, think it reached 6000 at one point. i expect them all to be following us now then, have to look out for that the first signs will be them coming on here i guess. coyr likewatchingbrazil

5:30pm Fri 23 Nov 12

slugger says...

i'll clap him when he arrives but once that whistle goes he's the opposition !
i'll clap him when he arrives but once that whistle goes he's the opposition ! slugger

5:32pm Fri 23 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

slugger wrote:
i'll clap him when he arrives but once that whistle goes he's the opposition !
It is called respect, something our fishy friends seem to be totally devoid of.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: i'll clap him when he arrives but once that whistle goes he's the opposition ![/p][/quote]It is called respect, something our fishy friends seem to be totally devoid of. OSPREYSAINT

5:35pm Fri 23 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Just another reader wrote:
He'd still be our manager if he didn't try to screw players wives. He's not our manager now so we will give him the exact level of respect he deserves by cheering on our current manager. Adkins' the one that took us from the relegation places in league one, to back-to-back promotions.
For all of the hype about what went on, there is no evidence of this apparent libel, we don't know the real reasons, one day it may come out in someones memoirs, until then you can only speculate, but also be careful how you word your responses.
[quote][p][bold]Just another reader[/bold] wrote: He'd still be our manager if he didn't try to screw players wives. He's not our manager now so we will give him the exact level of respect he deserves by cheering on our current manager. Adkins' the one that took us from the relegation places in league one, to back-to-back promotions.[/p][/quote]For all of the hype about what went on, there is no evidence of this apparent libel, we don't know the real reasons, one day it may come out in someones memoirs, until then you can only speculate, but also be careful how you word your responses. OSPREYSAINT

5:36pm Fri 23 Nov 12

mack chinnon says...

I went to our first home game after Pardew was appointed and was very impressed with the change in attitude.
"Here we go " I thought.
I went to our first home game after Pardew was appointed and was very impressed with the change in attitude. "Here we go " I thought. mack chinnon

5:36pm Fri 23 Nov 12

slugger says...

i'm looking forward to redknapp coming as qpr manager , what a reception i predict for him !
i'm looking forward to redknapp coming as qpr manager , what a reception i predict for him ! slugger

5:38pm Fri 23 Nov 12

slugger says...

did someone squeak ?
did someone squeak ? slugger

5:40pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Little Hitler says...

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Little Hitler

5:46pm Fri 23 Nov 12

SaintMax says...

Alan was great for the club at a time we were on our R,s.
Alan was great for the club at a time we were on our R,s. SaintMax

5:52pm Fri 23 Nov 12

St.Yorkie says...

The glory days...how many did Pompey take to Wembley in their glorious FA Cup Triumph?
I always thought Triumph was a sort of bra...twin supporters?
Well that's 2-more than at aint 'arf krap!
The glory days...how many did Pompey take to Wembley in their glorious FA Cup Triumph? I always thought Triumph was a sort of bra...twin supporters? Well that's 2-more than at aint 'arf krap! St.Yorkie

6:22pm Fri 23 Nov 12

promised land says...

St.Yorkie wrote:
The glory days...how many did Pompey take to Wembley in their glorious FA Cup Triumph?
I always thought Triumph was a sort of bra...twin supporters?
Well that's 2-more than at aint 'arf krap!
Ah yes pFC winning the cup against that non footballing nation welsh club....I have watched every fa cup final since 1970 except that year. Where I am proud of the fact on that day I watched the Shopping channel...looking forward to 14th Dec. and pFC put to sleep....sssssshhhhh
h
[quote][p][bold]St.Yorkie[/bold] wrote: The glory days...how many did Pompey take to Wembley in their glorious FA Cup Triumph? I always thought Triumph was a sort of bra...twin supporters? Well that's 2-more than at aint 'arf krap![/p][/quote]Ah yes pFC winning the cup against that non footballing nation welsh club....I have watched every fa cup final since 1970 except that year. Where I am proud of the fact on that day I watched the Shopping channel...looking forward to 14th Dec. and pFC put to sleep....sssssshhhhh h promised land

6:30pm Fri 23 Nov 12

saintshorse101 says...

its about time the echo printed a positive story about a manager, its just a shame its not OURS. yes pards did well here, and yes he did sign all those players, however to say any manager worth their salt should have got that squad out of L1 is just another dig at NA.
Saints and ML, NC had reasons to sack pards and if those reasons are good enough for them then they are good enough or me! pards did a good job but NA has done better.

whats happend to that big saints fan who posts under the name of kent141, he has gone missing since the sssssshhhhhhh campaign, he used to come on here and argue with other fans about how much of a fan he was. has anyone else seen or heard from him? i know he wanted to meet BAD BILL before or after a game, and was asking about the balti pies he had at wba.
like the rest of their sad little lives they just cant keep it up can they!!!!
ssssssssssssshhhhhhh
hhh
its about time the echo printed a positive story about a manager, its just a shame its not OURS. yes pards did well here, and yes he did sign all those players, however to say any manager worth their salt should have got that squad out of L1 is just another dig at NA. Saints and ML, NC had reasons to sack pards and if those reasons are good enough for them then they are good enough or me! pards did a good job but NA has done better. whats happend to that big saints fan who posts under the name of kent141, he has gone missing since the sssssshhhhhhh campaign, he used to come on here and argue with other fans about how much of a fan he was. has anyone else seen or heard from him? i know he wanted to meet BAD BILL before or after a game, and was asking about the balti pies he had at wba. like the rest of their sad little lives they just cant keep it up can they!!!! ssssssssssssshhhhhhh hhh saintshorse101

6:45pm Fri 23 Nov 12

just kidding says...

We will never know if Mr Pardue could have gotten us where we are now. But I do know he did'nt! and thats his loss. None the less I think a warm welcome is in order, at least until that whistle blows.
We will never know if Mr Pardue could have gotten us where we are now. But I do know he did'nt! and thats his loss. None the less I think a warm welcome is in order, at least until that whistle blows. just kidding

6:46pm Fri 23 Nov 12

scooter75 says...

saintshorse101 wrote:
its about time the echo printed a positive story about a manager, its just a shame its not OURS. yes pards did well here, and yes he did sign all those players, however to say any manager worth their salt should have got that squad out of L1 is just another dig at NA.
Saints and ML, NC had reasons to sack pards and if those reasons are good enough for them then they are good enough or me! pards did a good job but NA has done better.

whats happend to that big saints fan who posts under the name of kent141, he has gone missing since the sssssshhhhhhh campaign, he used to come on here and argue with other fans about how much of a fan he was. has anyone else seen or heard from him? i know he wanted to meet BAD BILL before or after a game, and was asking about the balti pies he had at wba.
like the rest of their sad little lives they just cant keep it up can they!!!!
ssssssssssssshhhhhhh

hhh
I think kent maybe a wum and dident have a balti pie ....
[quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: its about time the echo printed a positive story about a manager, its just a shame its not OURS. yes pards did well here, and yes he did sign all those players, however to say any manager worth their salt should have got that squad out of L1 is just another dig at NA. Saints and ML, NC had reasons to sack pards and if those reasons are good enough for them then they are good enough or me! pards did a good job but NA has done better. whats happend to that big saints fan who posts under the name of kent141, he has gone missing since the sssssshhhhhhh campaign, he used to come on here and argue with other fans about how much of a fan he was. has anyone else seen or heard from him? i know he wanted to meet BAD BILL before or after a game, and was asking about the balti pies he had at wba. like the rest of their sad little lives they just cant keep it up can they!!!! ssssssssssssshhhhhhh hhh[/p][/quote]I think kent maybe a wum and dident have a balti pie .... scooter75

6:56pm Fri 23 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

por favor, fique quieto, por favor mantenha o silêncio, shhh...
por favor, fique quieto, por favor mantenha o silêncio, shhh... OSPREYSAINT

7:07pm Fri 23 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Vær stille
Vær stille OSPREYSAINT

7:23pm Fri 23 Nov 12

magnette says...

He was given a load of money to spend on players from the league above that were better than the ones in the teams around him and unsurprisingly they did very well. That's not managing that's buying stuff. He's in the prem now and can't do that and we'll see how good a manager he is. Where are they in the league now?
He was given a load of money to spend on players from the league above that were better than the ones in the teams around him and unsurprisingly they did very well. That's not managing that's buying stuff. He's in the prem now and can't do that and we'll see how good a manager he is. Where are they in the league now? magnette

7:26pm Fri 23 Nov 12

seventh-junction says...

Come on Coventry....008 on it's way .....but for now...007 skuntfall
Come on Coventry....008 on it's way .....but for now...007 skuntfall seventh-junction

7:32pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Bring back Branfoot says...

saintshorse101 wrote:
its about time the echo printed a positive story about a manager, its just a shame its not OURS. yes pards did well here, and yes he did sign all those players, however to say any manager worth their salt should have got that squad out of L1 is just another dig at NA.
Saints and ML, NC had reasons to sack pards and if those reasons are good enough for them then they are good enough or me! pards did a good job but NA has done better.

whats happend to that big saints fan who posts under the name of kent141, he has gone missing since the sssssshhhhhhh campaign, he used to come on here and argue with other fans about how much of a fan he was. has anyone else seen or heard from him? i know he wanted to meet BAD BILL before or after a game, and was asking about the balti pies he had at wba.
like the rest of their sad little lives they just cant keep it up can they!!!!
ssssssssssssshhhhhhh

hhh
He's on the other threads, you fool!
[quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: its about time the echo printed a positive story about a manager, its just a shame its not OURS. yes pards did well here, and yes he did sign all those players, however to say any manager worth their salt should have got that squad out of L1 is just another dig at NA. Saints and ML, NC had reasons to sack pards and if those reasons are good enough for them then they are good enough or me! pards did a good job but NA has done better. whats happend to that big saints fan who posts under the name of kent141, he has gone missing since the sssssshhhhhhh campaign, he used to come on here and argue with other fans about how much of a fan he was. has anyone else seen or heard from him? i know he wanted to meet BAD BILL before or after a game, and was asking about the balti pies he had at wba. like the rest of their sad little lives they just cant keep it up can they!!!! ssssssssssssshhhhhhh hhh[/p][/quote]He's on the other threads, you fool! Bring back Branfoot

7:33pm Fri 23 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Vă rugăm să fie silenţios
Vă rugăm să fie silenţios OSPREYSAINT

7:36pm Fri 23 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Proszę być spokojnym
Proszę być spokojnym OSPREYSAINT

7:58pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Force14 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Proszę być spokojnym
tt.........3-16
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Proszę być spokojnym[/p][/quote]tt.........3-16 Force14

7:59pm Fri 23 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

¡Favor cuidar el silencio!, silencio, shiss
¡Favor cuidar el silencio!, silencio, shiss OSPREYSAINT

8:07pm Fri 23 Nov 12

ottostrasser says...

We owe Pardew nothing he was disrespectful to the players (Im being very generous here) .Had limited tactical skills and I am sure we wouldnt be in the Premier if he was still here.Again The Echo trying to undermine the current set up.
We owe Pardew nothing he was disrespectful to the players (Im being very generous here) .Had limited tactical skills and I am sure we wouldnt be in the Premier if he was still here.Again The Echo trying to undermine the current set up. ottostrasser

8:12pm Fri 23 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

http://www.logistiqu
e-innovep.fr/langue/
eng/vehicules/taylor
_dunn/tt3_16/tt3_16.
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I don't understand the reference but each to there own I suppose.
http://www.logistiqu e-innovep.fr/langue/ eng/vehicules/taylor _dunn/tt3_16/tt3_16. htm I don't understand the reference but each to there own I suppose. OSPREYSAINT

8:14pm Fri 23 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
http://www.logistiqu

e-innovep.fr/langue/

eng/vehicules/taylor

_dunn/tt3_16/tt3_16.

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I don't understand the reference but each to there own I suppose.
drat, I meant "their" own. Breaking the rules again, I am having to sign off, I just can't resist a challenge. Nice game on Sky 1.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: http://www.logistiqu e-innovep.fr/langue/ eng/vehicules/taylor _dunn/tt3_16/tt3_16. htm I don't understand the reference but each to there own I suppose.[/p][/quote]drat, I meant "their" own. Breaking the rules again, I am having to sign off, I just can't resist a challenge. Nice game on Sky 1. OSPREYSAINT

8:28pm Fri 23 Nov 12

bluewhiteandred says...

promised land wrote:
St.Yorkie wrote:
The glory days...how many did Pompey take to Wembley in their glorious FA Cup Triumph?
I always thought Triumph was a sort of bra...twin supporters?
Well that's 2-more than at aint 'arf krap!
Ah yes pFC winning the cup against that non footballing nation welsh club....I have watched every fa cup final since 1970 except that year. Where I am proud of the fact on that day I watched the Shopping channel...looking forward to 14th Dec. and pFC put to sleep....sssssshhhhh

h
St.Yorkie wrote: The glory days...how many did Pompey take to Wembley in their glorious FA Cup Triumph?

you are only asking as you have not experienced success and probably never been to wembey and won a major trophy.

You lot of deck chairs can mock as much as you like one season in the premier and not long until relegation

How ironic you get Hughes sacked at QPR and REDKNAPP comes in and saves QPR and saints get relegated
JUSTICE again sssssshhhhhh
[quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.Yorkie[/bold] wrote: The glory days...how many did Pompey take to Wembley in their glorious FA Cup Triumph? I always thought Triumph was a sort of bra...twin supporters? Well that's 2-more than at aint 'arf krap![/p][/quote]Ah yes pFC winning the cup against that non footballing nation welsh club....I have watched every fa cup final since 1970 except that year. Where I am proud of the fact on that day I watched the Shopping channel...looking forward to 14th Dec. and pFC put to sleep....sssssshhhhh h[/p][/quote]St.Yorkie[/bold] wrote: The glory days...how many did Pompey take to Wembley in their glorious FA Cup Triumph? you are only asking as you have not experienced success and probably never been to wembey and won a major trophy. You lot of deck chairs can mock as much as you like one season in the premier and not long until relegation How ironic you get Hughes sacked at QPR and REDKNAPP comes in and saves QPR and saints get relegated JUSTICE again sssssshhhhhh bluewhiteandred

9:39pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Baddesley Bill says...

The court case on the 14th December will be defining.....

....there may be an everlasting ssssshhhhhh from the the East.

Ssssssshhhhhame. :0)
The court case on the 14th December will be defining..... ....there may be an everlasting ssssshhhhhh from the the East. Ssssssshhhhhame. :0) Baddesley Bill

10:01pm Fri 23 Nov 12

bluewhiteandred says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
The court case on the 14th December will be defining.....

....there may be an everlasting ssssshhhhhh from the the East.

Ssssssshhhhhame. :0)
Nothing points to this being a failure unless the judge follows Saints ! . seriously pompey fans have found out the crooked wheelings and dealings of balram chanrai like money go to him and not the creditors see( right now hall) site interesting reading i know we banter this is amazing stuff ! and this will be presented to the court no problems .
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: The court case on the 14th December will be defining..... ....there may be an everlasting ssssshhhhhh from the the East. Ssssssshhhhhame. :0)[/p][/quote]Nothing points to this being a failure unless the judge follows Saints ! . seriously pompey fans have found out the crooked wheelings and dealings of balram chanrai like money go to him and not the creditors see( right now hall) site interesting reading i know we banter this is amazing stuff ! and this will be presented to the court no problems . bluewhiteandred

10:04pm Fri 23 Nov 12

bluewhiteandred says...

sorry Hall right now know the facts !
sorry Hall right now know the facts ! bluewhiteandred

10:07pm Fri 23 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Just back, am I dreaming or some posts been deleted?
Just back, am I dreaming or some posts been deleted? OSPREYSAINT

11:16pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Norwegian Saint says...

To all Poopey fans

"Southampton have won more competitive matches between the two teams, and have been more regularly in a higher league than Portsmouth, including their 27 consecutive years in the top flight of English football."

Enough said!

Source : Wikipedia
To all Poopey fans "Southampton have won more competitive matches between the two teams, and have been more regularly in a higher league than Portsmouth, including their 27 consecutive years in the top flight of English football." Enough said! Source : Wikipedia Norwegian Saint

12:01am Sat 24 Nov 12

Invidia says...

ottostrasser wrote:
We owe Pardew nothing he was disrespectful to the players (Im being very generous here) .Had limited tactical skills and I am sure we wouldnt be in the Premier if he was still here.Again The Echo trying to undermine the current set up.
It is patently obvious that Adam Leitch got more news from AP than he does from NA his article speaks volume's

May I add my tuppence worth. The story that I was told, Aledgedly Alan Pardew was being tapped up by other clubs when NC confronted AP he confirmed that he was totally commited to the Saints dream, and within a month or so AP had talks with I believe it was Celtic whereapon NC dismissed AP. There is some substance to this story as it was reported by the BBC sport programme at the time. But I guess we will never know for sure will we?” I posted this on the other thread but it is also valid on here
[quote][p][bold]ottostrasser[/bold] wrote: We owe Pardew nothing he was disrespectful to the players (Im being very generous here) .Had limited tactical skills and I am sure we wouldnt be in the Premier if he was still here.Again The Echo trying to undermine the current set up.[/p][/quote]It is patently obvious that Adam Leitch got more news from AP than he does from NA his article speaks volume's May I add my tuppence worth. The story that I was told, Aledgedly Alan Pardew was being tapped up by other clubs when NC confronted AP he confirmed that he was totally commited to the Saints dream, and within a month or so AP had talks with I believe it was Celtic whereapon NC dismissed AP. There is some substance to this story as it was reported by the BBC sport programme at the time. But I guess we will never know for sure will we?” I posted this on the other thread but it is also valid on here Invidia

5:23am Sat 24 Nov 12

batesieboy says...

slugger wrote:
i'll clap him when he arrives but once that whistle goes he's the opposition !
Well said. I also think it would be a great psychological blow if saints fans were to give a really warm and loud welcome to Pards. Suck the Geordies in before blowing them away.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: i'll clap him when he arrives but once that whistle goes he's the opposition ![/p][/quote]Well said. I also think it would be a great psychological blow if saints fans were to give a really warm and loud welcome to Pards. Suck the Geordies in before blowing them away. batesieboy

7:57am Sat 24 Nov 12

kent141 says...

Where have the comedy posts gone, there was a hilarious name that resembled mine that was a great sense of mirth....jeeez that bloke was a bucket of laughs calling himself names.
Where have the comedy posts gone, there was a hilarious name that resembled mine that was a great sense of mirth....jeeez that bloke was a bucket of laughs calling himself names. kent141

8:16am Sat 24 Nov 12

scooter75 says...

kent141 wrote:
Where have the comedy posts gone, there was a hilarious name that resembled mine that was a great sense of mirth....jeeez that bloke was a bucket of laughs calling himself names.
He was certainly game for a laugh, he was a classic farmer type hillbilly, he will be sitting outside his barn now chomping on straw with his " i love nigel " tee shirt over his dungarees .
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: Where have the comedy posts gone, there was a hilarious name that resembled mine that was a great sense of mirth....jeeez that bloke was a bucket of laughs calling himself names.[/p][/quote]He was certainly game for a laugh, he was a classic farmer type hillbilly, he will be sitting outside his barn now chomping on straw with his " i love nigel " tee shirt over his dungarees . scooter75

10:05am Sat 24 Nov 12

BracknellSaint says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
To all Poopey fans

"Southampton have won more competitive matches between the two teams, and have been more regularly in a higher league than Portsmouth, including their 27 consecutive years in the top flight of English football."

Enough said!

Source : Wikipedia
That.
Can you just cut and paste that everytime for the poor little skunts?
Gets tiresome having to get through to their tiny,slightly feeble minds who is the bigger club is..
Cheers Norwegian!!
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: To all Poopey fans "Southampton have won more competitive matches between the two teams, and have been more regularly in a higher league than Portsmouth, including their 27 consecutive years in the top flight of English football." Enough said! Source : Wikipedia[/p][/quote]That. Can you just cut and paste that everytime for the poor little skunts? Gets tiresome having to get through to their tiny,slightly feeble minds who is the bigger club is.. Cheers Norwegian!! BracknellSaint

10:11am Sat 24 Nov 12

Mr. Cleanstreets says...

Show your opponent zero respect!
To win against a far better side like Newcastle, you need to be ruthless and calculating, forget about what Par poo did in the past, it matters not.
I suggest having Fonte's wife prancing around the touch line in her knickers... that would distract Par doo the drunk.
Now that feels better...let the complaints begin.
Show your opponent zero respect! To win against a far better side like Newcastle, you need to be ruthless and calculating, forget about what Par poo did in the past, it matters not. I suggest having Fonte's wife prancing around the touch line in her knickers... that would distract Par doo the drunk. Now that feels better...let the complaints begin. Mr. Cleanstreets

10:32am Sat 24 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Invidia wrote:
ottostrasser wrote:
We owe Pardew nothing he was disrespectful to the players (Im being very generous here) .Had limited tactical skills and I am sure we wouldnt be in the Premier if he was still here.Again The Echo trying to undermine the current set up.
It is patently obvious that Adam Leitch got more news from AP than he does from NA his article speaks volume's

May I add my tuppence worth. The story that I was told, Aledgedly Alan Pardew was being tapped up by other clubs when NC confronted AP he confirmed that he was totally commited to the Saints dream, and within a month or so AP had talks with I believe it was Celtic whereapon NC dismissed AP. There is some substance to this story as it was reported by the BBC sport programme at the time. But I guess we will never know for sure will we?” I posted this on the other thread but it is also valid on here
It was reported at the time that AP had been talking to Aston Villa without NC's permission, like so many rumours, no proof has ever come up.
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ottostrasser[/bold] wrote: We owe Pardew nothing he was disrespectful to the players (Im being very generous here) .Had limited tactical skills and I am sure we wouldnt be in the Premier if he was still here.Again The Echo trying to undermine the current set up.[/p][/quote]It is patently obvious that Adam Leitch got more news from AP than he does from NA his article speaks volume's May I add my tuppence worth. The story that I was told, Aledgedly Alan Pardew was being tapped up by other clubs when NC confronted AP he confirmed that he was totally commited to the Saints dream, and within a month or so AP had talks with I believe it was Celtic whereapon NC dismissed AP. There is some substance to this story as it was reported by the BBC sport programme at the time. But I guess we will never know for sure will we?” I posted this on the other thread but it is also valid on here[/p][/quote]It was reported at the time that AP had been talking to Aston Villa without NC's permission, like so many rumours, no proof has ever come up. OSPREYSAINT

12:05pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Saint. says...

While I am in the main not in for booing, I do not need the DE to tell me this,or indeed I would say that many Saints fans do not need to be told!

But let's get real about AP here. We do not owe him anything at all!! NC at the time shocked everyone and brought him in from the cold after he been playing around at his previous employers. The only thing he gave Saints was a golorious day out at Wembley winning the Johnstone paint trophy. But it stops there. As it was AP who messed it up playing around with players misses again. And if the rumours are true I hope Fonte is so up for it, that he lets absolutey nothing past him on Sunday,and even scores a couple!!

Yes he made some good signings with the help of NC! But DE it stops there. It is totally out of order to suggest NA success of back to back promotions is down to AP signings! NA kept the better ones, and got rid of not so better ones. The ones he kept he made better players DE!! AP has also brought better players in since too....Clyne and Gaston for example. He also turned players mentality around that AP could not like Punc! DE you talk about players respecting him, well I personallly find this hard to believe. The players got rid of AP, and the players play for NA! So do not for one mintue suggest this cub owe AP anything. He was paid good money, and had good money at his disposal in the lower leagues, and he only archived the bear minium. NA has taken a team he/AP left, due to his own stupidity and NA has taken Southampton FC back to the prem! Not AP!! In the prem now ue to NA hard work only!!

Why oh why DE are you looking to bring NA down at every concievable chance you can?
While I am in the main not in for booing, I do not need the DE to tell me this,or indeed I would say that many Saints fans do not need to be told! But let's get real about AP here. We do not owe him anything at all!! NC at the time shocked everyone and brought him in from the cold after he been playing around at his previous employers. The only thing he gave Saints was a golorious day out at Wembley winning the Johnstone paint trophy. But it stops there. As it was AP who messed it up playing around with players misses again. And if the rumours are true I hope Fonte is so up for it, that he lets absolutey nothing past him on Sunday,and even scores a couple!! Yes he made some good signings with the help of NC! But DE it stops there. It is totally out of order to suggest NA success of back to back promotions is down to AP signings! NA kept the better ones, and got rid of not so better ones. The ones he kept he made better players DE!! AP has also brought better players in since too....Clyne and Gaston for example. He also turned players mentality around that AP could not like Punc! DE you talk about players respecting him, well I personallly find this hard to believe. The players got rid of AP, and the players play for NA! So do not for one mintue suggest this cub owe AP anything. He was paid good money, and had good money at his disposal in the lower leagues, and he only archived the bear minium. NA has taken a team he/AP left, due to his own stupidity and NA has taken Southampton FC back to the prem! Not AP!! In the prem now ue to NA hard work only!! Why oh why DE are you looking to bring NA down at every concievable chance you can? Saint.

12:05pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Saint. says...

While I am in the main not in for booing, I do not need the DE to tell me this,or indeed I would say that many Saints fans do not need to be told!

But let's get real about AP here. We do not owe him anything at all!! NC at the time shocked everyone and brought him in from the cold after he been playing around at his previous employers. The only thing he gave Saints was a golorious day out at Wembley winning the Johnstone paint trophy. But it stops there. As it was AP who messed it up playing around with players misses again. And if the rumours are true I hope Fonte is so up for it, that he lets absolutey nothing past him on Sunday,and even scores a couple!!

Yes he made some good signings with the help of NC! But DE it stops there. It is totally out of order to suggest NA success of back to back promotions is down to AP signings! NA kept the better ones, and got rid of not so better ones. The ones he kept he made better players DE!! AP has also brought better players in since too....Clyne and Gaston for example. He also turned players mentality around that AP could not like Punc! DE you talk about players respecting him, well I personallly find this hard to believe. The players got rid of AP, and the players play for NA! So do not for one mintue suggest this cub owe AP anything. He was paid good money, and had good money at his disposal in the lower leagues, and he only archived the bear minium. NA has taken a team he/AP left, due to his own stupidity and NA has taken Southampton FC back to the prem! Not AP!! In the prem now ue to NA hard work only!!

Why oh why DE are you looking to bring NA down at every concievable chance you can?
While I am in the main not in for booing, I do not need the DE to tell me this,or indeed I would say that many Saints fans do not need to be told! But let's get real about AP here. We do not owe him anything at all!! NC at the time shocked everyone and brought him in from the cold after he been playing around at his previous employers. The only thing he gave Saints was a golorious day out at Wembley winning the Johnstone paint trophy. But it stops there. As it was AP who messed it up playing around with players misses again. And if the rumours are true I hope Fonte is so up for it, that he lets absolutey nothing past him on Sunday,and even scores a couple!! Yes he made some good signings with the help of NC! But DE it stops there. It is totally out of order to suggest NA success of back to back promotions is down to AP signings! NA kept the better ones, and got rid of not so better ones. The ones he kept he made better players DE!! AP has also brought better players in since too....Clyne and Gaston for example. He also turned players mentality around that AP could not like Punc! DE you talk about players respecting him, well I personallly find this hard to believe. The players got rid of AP, and the players play for NA! So do not for one mintue suggest this cub owe AP anything. He was paid good money, and had good money at his disposal in the lower leagues, and he only archived the bear minium. NA has taken a team he/AP left, due to his own stupidity and NA has taken Southampton FC back to the prem! Not AP!! In the prem now ue to NA hard work only!! Why oh why DE are you looking to bring NA down at every concievable chance you can? Saint.

1:30pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Norwegian Saint says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
To all Poopey fans

"Southampton have won more competitive matches between the two teams, and have been more regularly in a higher league than Portsmouth, including their 27 consecutive years in the top flight of English football."

Enough said!

Source : Wikipedia
That.
Can you just cut and paste that everytime for the poor little skunts?
Gets tiresome having to get through to their tiny,slightly feeble minds who is the bigger club is..
Cheers Norwegian!!
To all Poopey fans

"Southampton have won more competitive matches between the two teams, and have been more regularly in a higher league than Portsmouth, including their 27 consecutive years in the top flight of English football."

Enough said!

Source : Wikipedia
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: To all Poopey fans "Southampton have won more competitive matches between the two teams, and have been more regularly in a higher league than Portsmouth, including their 27 consecutive years in the top flight of English football." Enough said! Source : Wikipedia[/p][/quote]That. Can you just cut and paste that everytime for the poor little skunts? Gets tiresome having to get through to their tiny,slightly feeble minds who is the bigger club is.. Cheers Norwegian!![/p][/quote]To all Poopey fans "Southampton have won more competitive matches between the two teams, and have been more regularly in a higher league than Portsmouth, including their 27 consecutive years in the top flight of English football." Enough said! Source : Wikipedia Norwegian Saint

3:09pm Sat 24 Nov 12

st1halo says...

Saint. wrote:
While I am in the main not in for booing, I do not need the DE to tell me this,or indeed I would say that many Saints fans do not need to be told!

But let's get real about AP here. We do not owe him anything at all!! NC at the time shocked everyone and brought him in from the cold after he been playing around at his previous employers. The only thing he gave Saints was a golorious day out at Wembley winning the Johnstone paint trophy. But it stops there. As it was AP who messed it up playing around with players misses again. And if the rumours are true I hope Fonte is so up for it, that he lets absolutey nothing past him on Sunday,and even scores a couple!!

Yes he made some good signings with the help of NC! But DE it stops there. It is totally out of order to suggest NA success of back to back promotions is down to AP signings! NA kept the better ones, and got rid of not so better ones. The ones he kept he made better players DE!! AP has also brought better players in since too....Clyne and Gaston for example. He also turned players mentality around that AP could not like Punc! DE you talk about players respecting him, well I personallly find this hard to believe. The players got rid of AP, and the players play for NA! So do not for one mintue suggest this cub owe AP anything. He was paid good money, and had good money at his disposal in the lower leagues, and he only archived the bear minium. NA has taken a team he/AP left, due to his own stupidity and NA has taken Southampton FC back to the prem! Not AP!! In the prem now ue to NA hard work only!!

Why oh why DE are you looking to bring NA down at every concievable chance you can?
Good post Nigel! We're right behind you tomorrow mate, Good luck

STID
[quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: While I am in the main not in for booing, I do not need the DE to tell me this,or indeed I would say that many Saints fans do not need to be told! But let's get real about AP here. We do not owe him anything at all!! NC at the time shocked everyone and brought him in from the cold after he been playing around at his previous employers. The only thing he gave Saints was a golorious day out at Wembley winning the Johnstone paint trophy. But it stops there. As it was AP who messed it up playing around with players misses again. And if the rumours are true I hope Fonte is so up for it, that he lets absolutey nothing past him on Sunday,and even scores a couple!! Yes he made some good signings with the help of NC! But DE it stops there. It is totally out of order to suggest NA success of back to back promotions is down to AP signings! NA kept the better ones, and got rid of not so better ones. The ones he kept he made better players DE!! AP has also brought better players in since too....Clyne and Gaston for example. He also turned players mentality around that AP could not like Punc! DE you talk about players respecting him, well I personallly find this hard to believe. The players got rid of AP, and the players play for NA! So do not for one mintue suggest this cub owe AP anything. He was paid good money, and had good money at his disposal in the lower leagues, and he only archived the bear minium. NA has taken a team he/AP left, due to his own stupidity and NA has taken Southampton FC back to the prem! Not AP!! In the prem now ue to NA hard work only!! Why oh why DE are you looking to bring NA down at every concievable chance you can?[/p][/quote]Good post Nigel! We're right behind you tomorrow mate, Good luck STID st1halo

5:45pm Sat 24 Nov 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

If arsenal beat villa this evening and we win tomorrow we will be out of bottom 3.great result for us with wba beating sunderland.plus reading losing to wigan.COYR 3 POINTS TOMORROW PLEASE.
If arsenal beat villa this evening and we win tomorrow we will be out of bottom 3.great result for us with wba beating sunderland.plus reading losing to wigan.COYR 3 POINTS TOMORROW PLEASE. CB FRY LIVES

8:56pm Sat 24 Nov 12

TEBOURBA says...

The happy clappers will say I'm at it again but just to see what sort f a man Cortese is, log on to www.prweb.com/releas
es/2012/11/prweb1016
0131.htm.
I don't expect the happy clappers -- Cortese can do no wrong brIgade--- will bother to do this but if a few fair minded people decide to log on they will see the impartial court ruling on Cortese and his attempts to bankrupt Solent Interiors and throw hardworking people on to the dole.
The man on £600k a year, with no knowledge of how hard a carpenter or plumber has to work just to make ends meet, is an arrogant shyster is beneath contempt.
The happy clappers will say I'm at it again but just to see what sort f a man Cortese is, log on to www.prweb.com/releas es/2012/11/prweb1016 0131.htm. I don't expect the happy clappers -- Cortese can do no wrong brIgade--- will bother to do this but if a few fair minded people decide to log on they will see the impartial court ruling on Cortese and his attempts to bankrupt Solent Interiors and throw hardworking people on to the dole. The man on £600k a year, with no knowledge of how hard a carpenter or plumber has to work just to make ends meet, is an arrogant shyster is beneath contempt. TEBOURBA

10:16pm Sat 24 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
The happy clappers will say I'm at it again but just to see what sort f a man Cortese is, log on to www.prweb.com/releas

es/2012/11/prweb1016

0131.htm.
I don't expect the happy clappers -- Cortese can do no wrong brIgade--- will bother to do this but if a few fair minded people decide to log on they will see the impartial court ruling on Cortese and his attempts to bankrupt Solent Interiors and throw hardworking people on to the dole.
The man on £600k a year, with no knowledge of how hard a carpenter or plumber has to work just to make ends meet, is an arrogant shyster is beneath contempt.
I have tried but it doesn't work, how about cutting and pasting the relevant bits?
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: The happy clappers will say I'm at it again but just to see what sort f a man Cortese is, log on to www.prweb.com/releas es/2012/11/prweb1016 0131.htm. I don't expect the happy clappers -- Cortese can do no wrong brIgade--- will bother to do this but if a few fair minded people decide to log on they will see the impartial court ruling on Cortese and his attempts to bankrupt Solent Interiors and throw hardworking people on to the dole. The man on £600k a year, with no knowledge of how hard a carpenter or plumber has to work just to make ends meet, is an arrogant shyster is beneath contempt.[/p][/quote]I have tried but it doesn't work, how about cutting and pasting the relevant bits? OSPREYSAINT

10:08am Sun 25 Nov 12

Velleity says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
The happy clappers will say I'm at it again but just to see what sort f a man Cortese is, log on to www.prweb.com/releas

es/2012/11/prweb1016

0131.htm.
I don't expect the happy clappers -- Cortese can do no wrong brIgade--- will bother to do this but if a few fair minded people decide to log on they will see the impartial court ruling on Cortese and his attempts to bankrupt Solent Interiors and throw hardworking people on to the dole.
The man on £600k a year, with no knowledge of how hard a carpenter or plumber has to work just to make ends meet, is an arrogant shyster is beneath contempt.
I've suggested this before and I mean it genuinely.

Please do go and see your GP. Your obsession is unhealthy - we can see that, you clearly can't. He/she will refer you to someone who can help you to see things in a more mentally healthy way.
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: The happy clappers will say I'm at it again but just to see what sort f a man Cortese is, log on to www.prweb.com/releas es/2012/11/prweb1016 0131.htm. I don't expect the happy clappers -- Cortese can do no wrong brIgade--- will bother to do this but if a few fair minded people decide to log on they will see the impartial court ruling on Cortese and his attempts to bankrupt Solent Interiors and throw hardworking people on to the dole. The man on £600k a year, with no knowledge of how hard a carpenter or plumber has to work just to make ends meet, is an arrogant shyster is beneath contempt.[/p][/quote]I've suggested this before and I mean it genuinely. Please do go and see your GP. Your obsession is unhealthy - we can see that, you clearly can't. He/she will refer you to someone who can help you to see things in a more mentally healthy way. Velleity

11:01am Sun 25 Nov 12

Costa Baz says...

"Pardew had built a team that any manager worth his salt should have got out of League One" writes Adam Leitch.

Is this the same as saying any reporter, worth his salt, should be able to write a positive piece on the Saints/Saints Management based on the words available to him in the Oxford English Dictionary?

Or does it depend on the capability of the person being asked to do the job??
"Pardew had built a team that any manager worth his salt should have got out of League One" writes Adam Leitch. Is this the same as saying any reporter, worth his salt, should be able to write a positive piece on the Saints/Saints Management based on the words available to him in the Oxford English Dictionary? Or does it depend on the capability of the person being asked to do the job?? Costa Baz

11:43am Sun 25 Nov 12

saintshorse101 says...

Velleity wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote: The happy clappers will say I'm at it again but just to see what sort f a man Cortese is, log on to www.prweb.com/releas es/2012/11/prweb1016 0131.htm. I don't expect the happy clappers -- Cortese can do no wrong brIgade--- will bother to do this but if a few fair minded people decide to log on they will see the impartial court ruling on Cortese and his attempts to bankrupt Solent Interiors and throw hardworking people on to the dole. The man on £600k a year, with no knowledge of how hard a carpenter or plumber has to work just to make ends meet, is an arrogant shyster is beneath contempt.
I've suggested this before and I mean it genuinely. Please do go and see your GP. Your obsession is unhealthy - we can see that, you clearly can't. He/she will refer you to someone who can help you to see things in a more mentally healthy way.
i agree velleity, this story that the boooooorer has trawled the internet for is no different to the story the echo ran with the other day, infact when you read the statement made by the sis rep " "This case highlights the continued poor payment practices of many major businesses towards smaller sub contractors." indicates what others said to the booooooorer the other day, its not just saints most big businesses will try to pay as late as they can!
i do think you need help booooooorer you need to get past your love/hate feelings regarding NC, and yes this is a genuine call for you to seek the assistance you clearly need. i also think that we might need to contact NC and tell him to beef up his security, maybe he could then charge it to sfc!
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: The happy clappers will say I'm at it again but just to see what sort f a man Cortese is, log on to www.prweb.com/releas es/2012/11/prweb1016 0131.htm. I don't expect the happy clappers -- Cortese can do no wrong brIgade--- will bother to do this but if a few fair minded people decide to log on they will see the impartial court ruling on Cortese and his attempts to bankrupt Solent Interiors and throw hardworking people on to the dole. The man on £600k a year, with no knowledge of how hard a carpenter or plumber has to work just to make ends meet, is an arrogant shyster is beneath contempt.[/p][/quote]I've suggested this before and I mean it genuinely. Please do go and see your GP. Your obsession is unhealthy - we can see that, you clearly can't. He/she will refer you to someone who can help you to see things in a more mentally healthy way.[/p][/quote]i agree velleity, this story that the boooooorer has trawled the internet for is no different to the story the echo ran with the other day, infact when you read the statement made by the sis rep " "This case highlights the continued poor payment practices of many major businesses towards smaller sub contractors." indicates what others said to the booooooorer the other day, its not just saints most big businesses will try to pay as late as they can! i do think you need help booooooorer you need to get past your love/hate feelings regarding NC, and yes this is a genuine call for you to seek the assistance you clearly need. i also think that we might need to contact NC and tell him to beef up his security, maybe he could then charge it to sfc! saintshorse101

5:20pm Sun 25 Nov 12

TEBOURBA says...

Does the fact that there are many shysters like Cortese, try to get away without paying and when called to book, stick two fingers up to British justice, make it right ?
How can any right minded, caring person with a modicum of conscience defend this?
The boss of any company that forces a smaller company to go to court to obtain their fair payment is a shyster and beneath contempt as are those who condone it.
Because of this practice many small companies go to the wall due to lack of cash, resulting in honest, decent, hardworking men losing their jobs and their families suffering.
Mind you the terms honest, decent hardworking and families suffering, are alien to the fat cats.
Try getting in to SMS and saying you'll pay in 6 months time but only if the court orders me to and see how far you get!
Does the fact that there are many shysters like Cortese, try to get away without paying and when called to book, stick two fingers up to British justice, make it right ? How can any right minded, caring person with a modicum of conscience defend this? The boss of any company that forces a smaller company to go to court to obtain their fair payment is a shyster and beneath contempt as are those who condone it. Because of this practice many small companies go to the wall due to lack of cash, resulting in honest, decent, hardworking men losing their jobs and their families suffering. Mind you the terms honest, decent hardworking and families suffering, are alien to the fat cats. Try getting in to SMS and saying you'll pay in 6 months time but only if the court orders me to and see how far you get! TEBOURBA

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