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Saints 1 Norwich 1
5:40pm Wednesday 28th November 2012 in Sport
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- Rickie Lambert gives Saints the lead on 32 minutes
- Paulo Gazzaniga lets Robert Snodgrass's free kick squirm through him for the equaliser moments before half time
- Seven points from the last nine for Saints
- Saints third from bottom
9:42pm
Saints unchanged from how they started the day as third from bottom
9:37pm
Full time - Saints 1 Norwich 1
9:32pm
Late changes for both teams with Jay Rodriguez on for Puncheon.
Elliott Bennett on for Snodgrass for Norwich.
Four minutes of stoppage time.
9:29pm
Slightly frantic stuff now.
Norwich have a decent penalty appeal waved away as Shaw challenges Snodgrass from behind in the area before Lambert fires over from inside the area at the other end.
Saints make a change on 85 minutes with Shaw limping off after that challenge for Ben Reeves.
9:26pm
First change for Norwich on 81 minutes. Morison on for Holt who doesn't look happy and disappears straight down the tunnel.
9:21pm
This is really not a classic but the three points are there for the taking.
Another win for Saints would be massive and having got this far they have more than ten minutes left to do it.
9:12pm
Great effort from Jason Puncheon.
He cut in from the right onto his left foot and his curling shot was creeping in at the far post but Bunn does well to save.
9:09pm
Good save from Gazzaniga.
Holt got free at the far post from a corner.
His header was on target.
You would have expected Gazzaniga to make the save and he did.
9:05pm
For the first time in the game Norwich are the better team
9:01pm
Fairly even once more in the second half
8:55pm
Great free kick routine from Saints sees Ramirez pick out Jose Fonte unmarked at the far post. Not the best finish though as his volley somehow manages to go backwards.
8:50pm
The second half is underway
8:32pm
Half time - Saints 1 Norwich 1
8:32pm
GOAL - 45 minutes
Horrible error from Paulo Gazzaniga.
Clyne the first player in the book for a bit of a rash challenge to concede a free kick on the edge of the area on the right side.
Robert Snodgrass steps up to take it, trying to drill it low with his left foot.
It's not a great strike and Gazzaniga appears to have it covered diving down to his left but he lets it squirm through his body.
Saints 1 Norwich 1
8:29pm
Inswinging free kick from the other side from Gaston Ramirez just needed any sort of touch to divert it in but it flashes just wide of the far post
8:21pm
GOAL - 32 minutes - Lambert
Saints get a double stroke of luck to take the lead.
Adam Lallana whips in a right footed free kick from left. A Saints header comes off the back of a Norwich head and pinballs straight to Lambert.
The ball appeared to strike his hand but it was from point blank range and Mark Clattenburg didn't blow up.
Lambert slides down to meet the ball and guides it past Mark Bunn and into the bottom corner
Saints 1 Norwich 0
8:14pm
Really not too much in this. Certainly not a very good game.
Saints are the better team on the ball and are showing by far the greater attacking threat, but there have been very few chances.
Norwich are remaining tight aad compact and getting men behind the ball, which makes it hard.
8:13pm
Lallana shows great technique to volley a left footed shot just over the bar from Lambert's cross.
8:01pm
Norwich are getting numbers behind the ball which is making it hard for Saints.
That said they have not looked like creating anything yet.
7:57pm
Lambert cushions a header back across goal but Norwich are able to clear
7:52pm
Saints looking bright in the opening stages of the game
7:46pm
The game is underway
7:46pm
The game is underway
7:43pm
We are moments away from kick-off at St Mary's
7:12pm
Norwich manager Chris Hughton has "no fears" about Mark Bunn proving himself an able deputy for John Ruddy withthe England goalkeeper out of the Saints game.
Ruddy has conceded just two goals in his last six appearances as the Canaries recovered from an appalling start to the season.
However, the 26-year-old hobbled out during the closing stages at Everton on Saturday, where a last-minute equaliser from Sebastien Bassong extended Norwich's unbeaten run to seven matches.
His absence tonight means Bunn, signed from Blackburn in August, will be set for his first Barclays Premier League start since January.
Hughton, though, has every confidence in the 28-year-old, who saved a crucial last-gasp penalty from Clint Dempsey as Norwich knocked Tottenham out of the Capital One Cup last month.
"Mark is a good goalkeeper, and if it is a case that he comes in for whatever period of time, then we have no fears about that," Hughton said.
"When we brought him in originally that was the exact reason, because of his experience."
6:58pm
Norwich: Bunn, Garrido, Bassong, R Bennett, Whittaker, Pilkington, Johnson, Tettey, Snodgrass, Hoolahan, Holt.
Subs: Rudd, R Martin, Howson, Jackson, Morison, E Bennett, Barnett.
6:56pm
Saints: Gazzaniga, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Shaw, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Cork, Lallana, Ramírez, Lambert.
Subs: K Davis, Hooiveld, Reeves, S Davis, Rodriguez, Do Prado, Mayuka.
6:53pm
Saints name an unchanged side for the fourth game in a row
6:45pm
Tonight's game is also notable for the return to refereeing of Mark Clattenburg.
6:06pm
Nigel Adkins is also in bouyant mood.
"We've had 13 different goalscorers this season so we've got goals throughout the team, but the important thing for us is can we build on the clean sheet from the last game against Newcastle," Adkins said.
"We had a steady and stable back four and goalkeeper which is something we haven't had since the start of the campaign due to injuries, and the players are all working very hard as a team together.
"The players are working very hard on the training ground and what we've got is a group of players who are getting the just rewards for putting the work in home and away.
"We've accustomed ourselves very quickly the demands of the Premier League.
"We talk about lessons learned throughout the campaign and the players are working very, very hard to improve.
"There's a forward momentum about ourselves, and a growing belief about everybody.
"Sunday's performance was really good. We've got Gaston Ramirez, Adam Lallana, and Jason Puncheon with Rickie Lambert, and there was a good solid base behind them as a platform for some great attacking football that got the supporters off their feet at the weekend."
6:05pm
Norwich boss Chris Hughton on tonight's game: "Southampton are a team playing well at the moment, they are at home, and we will need to give a good account of ourselves to get something.
"It is about going into our game the way we have of late, showing our confidence, and trying to nullify the quality that they have got, but also play our own game."
5:45pm
For Norwich goalkeeper John Ruddy is a major doubt. Mark Bunn is standing by to deputise.
Norwich will definitely be without centre-back Michael Turner because of a shoulder problem, although versatile defender Russ Martin is fit again following his back injury.
5:44pm
The early team news for Saints is that top scorer Rickie Lambert is expected to have overcome a knock and should feature against former Rochdale team-mate Grant Holt.
Lambert came off in the 2-0 defeat of Newcastle due to the leg complaint, but trained yesterday and should be involved against the Canaries.
However, the game could come too soon for Danny Fox after missing Sunday with a knee complaint, while Frazer Richardson and Richard Chaplow are also expect to remain sidelined.
5:42pm
It's just over two hours until kick off at St Mary's as Saints prepare to take on Norwich.
Nigel Adkins' men are hoping to make it back-to-back top flight wins, the first time they will have done that since October 2003.
If they can keep successive clean sheets it will be the first time they have managed that in the Premier League since September 2003.
Norwich though travel to St Mary's in good form and could prove a tougher test than QPR and Newcastle.
Comments(109)
Velleity
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5:58pm Wed 28 Nov 12
I'll be hoarse after this one as well, I bet.
JohnItaly
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5:59pm Wed 28 Nov 12
COYR.
Ji-Ji-Jimmeh
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5:59pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Puddletown Saint
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6:01pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Gonna be a hard game -lets keep the faith
Norwegian Saint
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6:05pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Tough ask tonight but by keeping a winning team we can get a positive result.
Am I confident? Getting my "hell of a beating" quote ready ;-)
saintkenny
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6:30pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Norwegian Saint wrote:go norg .delia steven fry /great stuff.14/12/12 the end is nigh
Norway signing in.
Tough ask tonight but by keeping a winning team we can get a positive result.
Am I confident? Getting my "hell of a beating" quote ready ;-)
Velleity
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6:32pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Norwegian Saint wrote:Sounds like something from Eurovision...
Norway signing in.
Tough ask tonight but by keeping a winning team we can get a positive result.
Am I confident? Getting my "hell of a beating" quote ready ;-)
"Norway signing in"
"'Allo, Norway; what are your votes?"
"Southampton... trois point!
Norwich... null point!"
mack chinnon
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6:41pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Ji-Ji-Jimmeh wrote:Me.
we could, could move up to 14th with a win tonight, who would have thought that a few weeks ago?
mack chinnon
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6:42pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Come on Tranmere.
SaintinCanada
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6:46pm Wed 28 Nov 12
It gave me a moment of inspiration though:-
We could raise some serious money with a game called "Merrington Bingo"
Each player gets a card with 12 phrases then listens to the game on the Player.
When DM says "What Saints moousn't do now Adam is.........."
If "go to sleep at the back!"....or "lose their composure!" is in one of your squares, then you cross it off.
As soon your card is full you shout -
"BINGO! IT WAS WRITTEN HERE FIRST!"
If, after 90 minutes, or 5.00pm your card is still empty you shout -
"TEBOURBA!"
We could be on to something here....just need to fill in a few more squares!
Norwegian Saint
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6:48pm Wed 28 Nov 12
mack chinnon wrote:Mack... Do you mean Esbjerg? Twice now you said Esjberg?!
Esjberg checking in.
Come on Tranmere.
Velleity... Eurovision heeheee, my Norwegian girlfriends best friend might be singing for norway next year... How to ruin a career in one shout!
Come on you Saaaaaiiiintssss!!
Bigrich1980
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6:48pm Wed 28 Nov 12
saintkenny
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6:51pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Bigrich1980 wrote:VIPSPORTS.COM
anyone know of an livestreams for tonights game
mack chinnon
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6:55pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Norwegian Saint wrote:Sorry Amigo im dislexik. Ive also got d.h.a.d.
mack chinnon wrote:Mack... Do you mean Esbjerg? Twice now you said Esjberg?!
Esjberg checking in.
Come on Tranmere.
Velleity... Eurovision heeheee, my Norwegian girlfriends best friend might be singing for norway next year... How to ruin a career in one shout!
Come on you Saaaaaiiiintssss!!
Norwegian Saint
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6:55pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Ross123
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7:00pm Wed 28 Nov 12
perfect team selection tonight!
apart from guly made it to the bench! useless!
lets get another 3 points!
i fancy us getting something at liverpool to! they are poor
St.Yorkie
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7:02pm Wed 28 Nov 12
PTID1898
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7:03pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Norwegian Saint
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7:04pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Ross123 wrote:That's what I use in Norway... Easy to use site, just close the pop-ups and go full screen!
hi all, try firstrow.eu for the live link, never fails lads!
perfect team selection tonight!
apart from guly made it to the bench! useless!
lets get another 3 points!
i fancy us getting something at liverpool to! they are poor
Mack... well dine ;-)
mack chinnon
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7:06pm Wed 28 Nov 12
costa gaz
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7:07pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Norwegian Saint wrote:Very nice!
Unchanged team... Nice!
Off to my local (Almeria) to watch it live on ab sport.
COYR
Norwegian Saint
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7:11pm Wed 28 Nov 12
I'm going for a 4-2
up saints
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7:13pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Ross123 wrote:fsi football streaming is showing 4 links one is first row.happy with the starting 11 just thought jwp would of made the bench maybe even fox if luke tires.i will do my best not to mention one player on the bench hope he stays there.
hi all, try firstrow.eu for the live link, never fails lads!
perfect team selection tonight!
apart from guly made it to the bench! useless!
lets get another 3 points!
i fancy us getting something at liverpool to! they are poor
Norwegian Saint
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7:19pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Eastbourne Outpost
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7:21pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Ross123
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7:26pm Wed 28 Nov 12
up saints wrote:happy days!
Ross123 wrote:fsi football streaming is showing 4 links one is first row.happy with the starting 11 just thought jwp would of made the bench maybe even fox if luke tires.i will do my best not to mention one player on the bench hope he stays there.
hi all, try firstrow.eu for the live link, never fails lads!
perfect team selection tonight!
apart from guly made it to the bench! useless!
lets get another 3 points!
i fancy us getting something at liverpool to! they are poor
yeh how guly was given a 1 year contract extension is beyond me.
funniest moment ever was guly starting against man city over lambert!
what was that all about? lol
he should be released and maybe he might play for a league 1 side or summit,
common saints!!!
up saints
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7:32pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Ross123 wrote:i think he should of gone on loan would of shook him up abit .kick off 10 min enjoy the match all back half time
up saints wrote:happy days!
Ross123 wrote:fsi football streaming is showing 4 links one is first row.happy with the starting 11 just thought jwp would of made the bench maybe even fox if luke tires.i will do my best not to mention one player on the bench hope he stays there.
hi all, try firstrow.eu for the live link, never fails lads!
perfect team selection tonight!
apart from guly made it to the bench! useless!
lets get another 3 points!
i fancy us getting something at liverpool to! they are poor
yeh how guly was given a 1 year contract extension is beyond me.
funniest moment ever was guly starting against man city over lambert!
what was that all about? lol
he should be released and maybe he might play for a league 1 side or summit,
common saints!!!
Ross123
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7:37pm Wed 28 Nov 12
up saints wrote:enjoy mate!
Ross123 wrote:i think he should of gone on loan would of shook him up abit .kick off 10 min enjoy the match all back half time
up saints wrote:happy days!
Ross123 wrote:fsi football streaming is showing 4 links one is first row.happy with the starting 11 just thought jwp would of made the bench maybe even fox if luke tires.i will do my best not to mention one player on the bench hope he stays there.
hi all, try firstrow.eu for the live link, never fails lads!
perfect team selection tonight!
apart from guly made it to the bench! useless!
lets get another 3 points!
i fancy us getting something at liverpool to! they are poor
yeh how guly was given a 1 year contract extension is beyond me.
funniest moment ever was guly starting against man city over lambert!
what was that all about? lol
he should be released and maybe he might play for a league 1 side or summit,
common saints!!!
lets hope we all happy come 9.45!
mack chinnon
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7:38pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Norwegian Saint wrote:No Surman either.
No Ruddy in goal for the Canaries
SOULJACKER
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7:44pm Wed 28 Nov 12
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=Hc8usPlAY
bg
Tirau Dan
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7:54pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Saw the fingers go into Rickie's face though... cheating bstds
SPIKEISLANDTRADER
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7:56pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Warm the south coast up nicely tonight , and play as we know you can
saintshorse101
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8:17pm Wed 28 Nov 12
ssssssssssss
rickie lambert southamptons goal machine!!!!!!
Tirau Dan
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8:19pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Little Hitler
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8:20pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Not bad for a fatty then LOL.
He'll take us to the Champions League Ricky, Ricky!
mack chinnon
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8:23pm Wed 28 Nov 12
UP THE PREMIERSHIP WE GO.
Ji-Ji-Jimmeh
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8:31pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Norwegian Saint
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8:32pm Wed 28 Nov 12
1-1
Gazzanigga mistake... Terrible!
If Rickie will keep us up Gazza could send us down... Sorry, just awful goal to give away.
Barcelona Saint
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8:33pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Just have to go out and score 2 more!
mack chinnon
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8:35pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Ross123
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8:35pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Norwegian Saint wrote:i just wish we had kelvin davies on goal!
Clatterburg is ALL for Norwich! Terrible decisions.
1-1
Gazzanigga mistake... Terrible!
If Rickie will keep us up Gazza could send us down... Sorry, just awful goal to give away.
hes much more experienced and would save easy shots like that!
one minite hes good then hes crap!
its our only achilles heel!
our goalkeeper! so frustrating
we have been so comftable up until the goal!
ffs!!!!!!!!
ramirez has also been sloppy so far giving the ball away to much,
come on!
Strasbourg Saint
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8:37pm Wed 28 Nov 12
We tend to have a good half and a bad half, so I still say 3-1 Saints.
DisplacedFan
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8:38pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Norwegian Saint wrote:Basic goal keeping mistake. Silly freekick. Not sure if that was fair seemed a good tackle, but I would expect a high school goalkeeper to stop that one - not even hit that hard.
Clatterburg is ALL for Norwich! Terrible decisions.
1-1
Gazzanigga mistake... Terrible!
If Rickie will keep us up Gazza could send us down... Sorry, just awful goal to give away.
Norwegian Saint
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8:39pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Yeah... Give him experience but the Argie is costing us!
Is Clattenburg being racist towards Saints? Two blatant fouls for us waved away. A tickle on a canary and FOUL!
Ross123
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8:39pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Strasbourg Saint wrote:agreed! we need to win these games!
Well, this is where we'll see what we're made of. Let's be fair, we're not playing that well. Clyne, Ramirez and Gazza, of course, are all out of sorts.
We tend to have a good half and a bad half, so I still say 3-1 Saints.
i think we should sub clyne, bring on fox, we need some energy badly,
the only shining light so far is luke shaw!
mint
up saints
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8:42pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Scarborosaint
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8:43pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Norwegian Saint
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8:43pm Wed 28 Nov 12
bluewhiteandred
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8:46pm Wed 28 Nov 12
1412 12 POMPEY SAVED SAINTS STILL IN BOTTOM 3
Stroppy_gramps
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8:50pm Wed 28 Nov 12
bluewhiteandred wrote:Interesting prediction of the future there.
YOU ONLY SING WHEN YOUR WINNING
1412 12 POMPEY SAVED SAINTS STILL IN BOTTOM 3
since you seem so sure of what is going to happen I don't suppose you happen to have Fridays lottery numbers all predicted have you?
oh wait sorry..... ssshhhhhhhhhh
Bigrich1980
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8:50pm Wed 28 Nov 12
strem areful tonight - anyone rcommend a good one
mack chinnon
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8:51pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Strasbourg Saint
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8:55pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Norwegian Saint wrote:Mine was as good/bad as ever but someone's just pulled the plug!! :(
The links on firstrow is awful... Any good ones out there?
Norwegian Saint
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9:00pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Bigrich1980 wrote:Yep, nothing good on my links... Have to rely on this site :-)
i have given up trying to watch
strem areful tonight - anyone rcommend a good one
Norwegian Saint
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9:08pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Tirau Dan
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9:10pm Wed 28 Nov 12
time for jay rod
Norwegian Saint
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9:15pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Norwegian Saint
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9:22pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Tirau Dan
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9:23pm Wed 28 Nov 12
walks like a lilly and he wears a bra
come on saints lift it a bit lads.. lets get 3pts... COYR you can do it.
Norwegian Saint
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9:23pm Wed 28 Nov 12
bluewhiteandred
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9:24pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Stroppy_gramps wrote:stroppy gramps
bluewhiteandred wrote:Interesting prediction of the future there.
YOU ONLY SING WHEN YOUR WINNING
1412 12 POMPEY SAVED SAINTS STILL IN BOTTOM 3
since you seem so sure of what is going to happen I don't suppose you happen to have Fridays lottery numbers all predicted have you?
oh wait sorry..... ssshhhhhhhhhh
Thanks for breaking the bully boys sssssshhhhhh campaign do your own lottery numbers and i hope you win . so you can go to st marys and have a good day out . have a day without stropps
Norwegian Saint
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9:27pm Wed 28 Nov 12
bigfella777
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9:37pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Norwegian Saint
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9:38pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Bring on Liverpool (and Super Kelv)
Stroppy_gramps
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9:39pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Given the way Norwich have been playing recently thats a good result to grind out away from home
mack chinnon
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9:39pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Little Hitler
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9:39pm Wed 28 Nov 12
That's 7 from a possible nine with only 2 conceded. Shame Villa won last night but we should still be confident at Klanfield.
Haters gonna hate.
Ross123
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9:44pm Wed 28 Nov 12
gazza is costing us points - fact
we need safe hands davies in goal come saturday,
i knew when snodgrass took that freekick is going to go in!
thats how much faith i have in gazza!
batesieboy
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9:46pm Wed 28 Nov 12
mattthecat1980
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9:46pm Wed 28 Nov 12
mattthecat1980
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9:46pm Wed 28 Nov 12
willygetaway
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9:49pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Tirau Dan
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9:54pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Don't knock - support and he'll get better.. Don't suggest Kelv or Borlocks unless you've been to training and have access to the coaching staff thoughts.
Lads were tired out.. Jaded game.. As Mack says.. 4 unbeaten 4 from 6 so far this week - game to come.. who is it Sat.. another northern lot innit?
Puddletown Saint
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9:56pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Not a knee jerk but Kelvin must come back Yes he let in a few but that was against Utd City and the Ar*e
Keep the faith and up to Anfield
saintshorse101
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9:58pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Norwegian Saint
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10:02pm Wed 28 Nov 12
batesieboy wrote:Come the end of the season... If Gazza hadn't ficked up we would have 4 more points in the bag... Hope were not regretting this come May!
Come the end of the season that could be a big point. Win at Liverpool would be nice.
Norwegian Saint
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10:13pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Tirau Dan wrote:I like Gazza too but we just can NOT carry him. The defence is looking better and better. Gazza cost us tonight as he did against Swansea, he might have got away with errors in league 1 but not here and now.
I support young Gazza. Very unlucky to make a silly error.. he knows!! doesn;t need us no nothings telling him. He's smashing for a 20 year year old. I'll leave it to the gaffer to make the decisions.
Don't knock - support and he'll get better.. Don't suggest Kelv or Borlocks unless you've been to training and have access to the coaching staff thoughts.
Lads were tired out.. Jaded game.. As Mack says.. 4 unbeaten 4 from 6 so far this week - game to come.. who is it Sat.. another northern lot innit?
Yes he is only 20, yes give him experience but if we were to go down due to these unforced errors would you still forgive him?
I think we should buy the Norwich keeper... He looked useful.
Gazza in the sticks on Saturday and I will be worried. He's had 1 very good game in the last 5 or 6... We need a keeper that's good for 5 or 6 games with the odd bad one.
I know Gazza will be feeling crap and he is a Saints player that I will support but how many mistakes can we afford?
swesaint
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10:17pm Wed 28 Nov 12
saintshorse101
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10:18pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Norwegian Saint wrote:what if clyne hadnt slipped over against manure or hadnt let bale beat him to the cross he scored from, then we might of had 2-6pts more. all players make mistakes and no one has said that clyne should have been dropped after his, no we supported him and now hes showing what he can do. i think the same will be true for gazza, show faith in him and he will repay it. yes he has made a bad mistake but so have the other keepers, and i think gazza has shown more positives than the other 2.
batesieboy wrote: Come the end of the season that could be a big point. Win at Liverpool would be nice.Come the end of the season... If Gazza hadn't ficked up we would have 4 more points in the bag... Hope were not regretting this come May!
mack chinnon
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10:28pm Wed 28 Nov 12
saintshorse101 wrote:Agree with you Horse, Hoping he will be first choice for years to come.Feel more confident with him in goal than Kelvin,
Norwegian Saint wrote:what if clyne hadnt slipped over against manure or hadnt let bale beat him to the cross he scored from, then we might of had 2-6pts more. all players make mistakes and no one has said that clyne should have been dropped after his, no we supported him and now hes showing what he can do. i think the same will be true for gazza, show faith in him and he will repay it. yes he has made a bad mistake but so have the other keepers, and i think gazza has shown more positives than the other 2.
batesieboy wrote: Come the end of the season that could be a big point. Win at Liverpool would be nice.Come the end of the season... If Gazza hadn't ficked up we would have 4 more points in the bag... Hope were not regretting this come May!
Up the Saints.
Come on Tranmere.
Strasbourg Saint
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10:49pm Wed 28 Nov 12
mack chinnon wrote:Me, too.
saintshorse101 wrote:Agree with you Horse, Hoping he will be first choice for years to come.Feel more confident with him in goal than Kelvin,
Norwegian Saint wrote:what if clyne hadnt slipped over against manure or hadnt let bale beat him to the cross he scored from, then we might of had 2-6pts more. all players make mistakes and no one has said that clyne should have been dropped after his, no we supported him and now hes showing what he can do. i think the same will be true for gazza, show faith in him and he will repay it. yes he has made a bad mistake but so have the other keepers, and i think gazza has shown more positives than the other 2.
batesieboy wrote: Come the end of the season that could be a big point. Win at Liverpool would be nice.Come the end of the season... If Gazza hadn't ficked up we would have 4 more points in the bag... Hope were not regretting this come May!
Up the Saints.
Come on Tranmere.
I do agree with Norgie to a point. We've conceded three goals in the last four matches and Gazza has been involved in all of them ...... but, he's also made some good saves, too.
It's a tough call. A striker balloons over when he should have scored and we soon forget, but a goalie lets in a soft goal and we always remember.
Kelvin? Love him, but I remember the soft one which cost as 2 points at home to Preston a few years ago ..... and there were others.
In the end, it was a decent point against difficult opponents given that we were far from at our best. Roll on Saturday. If we do win (and I think we've a great chance) I fear for Brendon Rodgers....... Now THAT might be a job Di Matteo would fancy.
mack chinnon
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10:54pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Or Nigel.
mack chinnon wrote:Me, too.
saintshorse101 wrote:Agree with you Horse, Hoping he will be first choice for years to come.Feel more confident with him in goal than Kelvin,
Norwegian Saint wrote:what if clyne hadnt slipped over against manure or hadnt let bale beat him to the cross he scored from, then we might of had 2-6pts more. all players make mistakes and no one has said that clyne should have been dropped after his, no we supported him and now hes showing what he can do. i think the same will be true for gazza, show faith in him and he will repay it. yes he has made a bad mistake but so have the other keepers, and i think gazza has shown more positives than the other 2.
batesieboy wrote: Come the end of the season that could be a big point. Win at Liverpool would be nice.Come the end of the season... If Gazza hadn't ficked up we would have 4 more points in the bag... Hope were not regretting this come May!
Up the Saints.
Come on Tranmere.
I do agree with Norgie to a point. We've conceded three goals in the last four matches and Gazza has been involved in all of them ...... but, he's also made some good saves, too.
It's a tough call. A striker balloons over when he should have scored and we soon forget, but a goalie lets in a soft goal and we always remember.
Kelvin? Love him, but I remember the soft one which cost as 2 points at home to Preston a few years ago ..... and there were others.
In the end, it was a decent point against difficult opponents given that we were far from at our best. Roll on Saturday. If we do win (and I think we've a great chance) I fear for Brendon Rodgers....... Now THAT might be a job Di Matteo would fancy.
saintlysoul
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10:56pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Shaw was my man of the match an excellent performance!
I would p,ay Davies in goal and JWP for Spuder on Saturday!!!!!
Thornhill Saint
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11:05pm Wed 28 Nov 12
I just hope the lads are not still knackered come Saturday. If Adkins had made changes half would have cirticised him. He didn't and we did not win the other half may have a go.
I was more dissapointed with the lack of subsititutions. What is the point of having Mayuka if he is not allowed to terorise opponants at the end of a game. Lambert and Rodriguez are not inspirational together, When he subbed Lambert for Rodriguez last week it was very different and worked well.
I am moving more into the give Kelv a chance camp. What is the point of being second in line if you do not have the oppotunity to step up when first choice keeps stuffing up. Judging from Adkins post match talk, could be changes. He has however made saves and looks confident. Tricky but Super Kelv shades it for me.
All in all a night for Bovril, not a night that will live long in memory.
Baddesley Bill
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11:11pm Wed 28 Nov 12
We dominated the first 40 mins just like we did on Sunday. Our work ate and passing was excellet. Norwich just didn't give us the space that Newcastle did (as most of us suspected).
Gutted for Gazza...the timing of his blooper couldn't have been worse. Turned the game without doubt.
Plus points...our defence held firm when Norwich pressed and we never stopped running and chasing for a winner. Norwich did well to pack out their box...just a shame we couldn't find the space to put in the winner.
MOM Luke Shaw...best player on the pitch by a country mile. England awaits the lad.
FOM (Fattie Of the Match) award goes to Grant Holt.
Get anything from Anfield and we should be happy...but the Reading game will be a must win.
COYR
redsnapper
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11:11pm Wed 28 Nov 12
The feckin officials are as bad as the ones in Div 1.
Suspect Gazza will be rested on Sat but the alternatives are equally dicey.
skiptonsaint
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11:14pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Picking up premier league points when not at our best
Liverpool will have to come at us on sat and i think we could get something there.
Shaw was very good tonight for someone so young.
Sort the keeper situation out and i am not sure what to think on this,
What happens if we move kelvin back in and we start letting goals in again ?
Then we have no clear best keeper
And Back to square one. Gazza has been part of our best run keeping goals out.
OSPREYSAINT
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11:16pm Wed 28 Nov 12
skiptonsaint
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11:20pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Picking up premier league points when not at our best
Liverpool will have to come at us on sat and i think we could get something there.
Shaw was very good tonight for someone so young.
Sort the keeper situation out and i am not sure what to think on this,
What happens if we move kelvin back in and we start letting goals in again ?
Then we have no clear best keeper
And Back to square one. Gazza has been part of our best run keeping goals out.
slugger
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11:21pm Wed 28 Nov 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:norwich were better than us ? .... i beg to differ .
As a happy clapper I am a bit disappointed, but let us face it Norwich were basically better than us, but they couldn't beat us, that's progress. I suspect JWP was held back in case he was needed to replace Spider on Saturday if he had picked up another yellow, but he didn't really put himself about much and never got anywhere near picking up a card. Fonte was my MoM, but Shaw was immense. Poor old Gazza one mistake and he gets punished, it just ain't fair. In my view we were playing against 14 men tonight, the Officials were fairly inept, and as was said on Solent, all of the 50/50 decisions went Norwich way, and we didn't get any breaks at all.
OSPREYSAINT
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11:24pm Wed 28 Nov 12
slugger wrote:Better organized, especially after they scored. They didn't have much up front though, I was disappointed in Holts performance after all of the build up, Lambo is a far better all round player.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:norwich were better than us ? .... i beg to differ .
As a happy clapper I am a bit disappointed, but let us face it Norwich were basically better than us, but they couldn't beat us, that's progress. I suspect JWP was held back in case he was needed to replace Spider on Saturday if he had picked up another yellow, but he didn't really put himself about much and never got anywhere near picking up a card. Fonte was my MoM, but Shaw was immense. Poor old Gazza one mistake and he gets punished, it just ain't fair. In my view we were playing against 14 men tonight, the Officials were fairly inept, and as was said on Solent, all of the 50/50 decisions went Norwich way, and we didn't get any breaks at all.
angus mc coatup
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11:34pm Wed 28 Nov 12
sh!t ..........should change his name to
crappenberg !!
OSPREYSAINT
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11:38pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Jameski
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11:45pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Nigel should not be scared to make subs when we need more energy in the team.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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11:53pm Wed 28 Nov 12
st1halo
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1:25am Thu 29 Nov 12
Negatives (for me)
- Should have been a different approach to the game tactically and a chance to throw some fresh legs in.
- If the goal hadn't gone in right on half time, perhaps the result might have been different.
- Clattentwat - what a joke!
Positives
- Luke and Adam
- a point against a tough to beat team
- Looking more solid at the back, Jose baby played well
- Unbeaten in 4
Fun part of the night - singing You're just a sh1t Ricky Lambert to Grant Holt! Got home and watched the game again on Football First and even the commentators talked about it - Hilarious!
STID
14.12.12 - Merry Christmas everyone!
Tirau Dan
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4:00am Thu 29 Nov 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Norwich played 9 1 formation for 90% of the game.. they were boring, hoofed it too often and cheated like hell. The ref was absolutely useless.
slugger wrote:Better organized, especially after they scored. They didn't have much up front though, I was disappointed in Holts performance after all of the build up, Lambo is a far better all round player.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:norwich were better than us ? .... i beg to differ .
As a happy clapper I am a bit disappointed, but let us face it Norwich were basically better than us, but they couldn't beat us, that's progress. I suspect JWP was held back in case he was needed to replace Spider on Saturday if he had picked up another yellow, but he didn't really put himself about much and never got anywhere near picking up a card. Fonte was my MoM, but Shaw was immense. Poor old Gazza one mistake and he gets punished, it just ain't fair. In my view we were playing against 14 men tonight, the Officials were fairly inept, and as was said on Solent, all of the 50/50 decisions went Norwich way, and we didn't get any breaks at all.
Both teams were either knackered or saving themselves for Saturday. This was a forgettable game but a point is a point we'll have it.
To those picking on young Paulo... get over yourselves and let the manager manage the lads are doing fine.
Ross123
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4:24am Thu 29 Nov 12
Norwegian Saint wrote:agreed mate, gazza costing us points all the time,
batesieboy wrote:Come the end of the season... If Gazza hadn't ficked up we would have 4 more points in the bag... Hope were not regretting this come May!
Come the end of the season that could be a big point. Win at Liverpool would be nice.
i think we all wouldnt mind if norwich scored a screamer from 30 yards.
its the fact that we are gifting goals away to easy, (or gazza is).
we also learnt hooiveld was giving cheap goals away and we dropped him.
super kelv for liverpool game please!
we could be having the 3 points! not just the one!
i think youd all agree with me on this.
Norwegian Saint
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6:53am Thu 29 Nov 12
Player-Manager perhaps?!
:-D
JohnItaly
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6:59am Thu 29 Nov 12
Oldfan
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8:00am Thu 29 Nov 12
Gaaza is a young keeper learning and at this level mistakes will be more costly. If his confidence has gone then we must loan him out to learn.
Anyway we could not take the necessary three points and on Saturday the pace of Suarez/Sterling will be an interesting test for our defensive sytsem. Hopefully the team will cope better than in the past for if they allow one on ones we will be done.
OSPREYSAINT
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8:30am Thu 29 Nov 12
Oldfan wrote:It was not until I watched MoD that you could see how badly the wall was set up, presumably, that is Gazzas call to create the positioning of it for best effect? It was Puncheon that realised what was happening at the last minute and was close to blocking the shot, but may have distracted Gazza in his attempt to clear, it happened move on. In my opinion for Saturdays game I would use either of the more experienced GKs, not because of what has happened recently, but just for their better knowledge of the game.
The goal looked a team failure as the wall was not correctly positioned. The pundits on MOTD mentioned it but they were too busy castagating Gazza to show who lined it up.
Gaaza is a young keeper learning and at this level mistakes will be more costly. If his confidence has gone then we must loan him out to learn.
Anyway we could not take the necessary three points and on Saturday the pace of Suarez/Sterling will be an interesting test for our defensive sytsem. Hopefully the team will cope better than in the past for if they allow one on ones we will be done.
Strasbourg Saint
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8:32am Thu 29 Nov 12
Oldfan wrote:First: I agree with most of what Thornhill said above.
The goal looked a team failure as the wall was not correctly positioned. The pundits on MOTD mentioned it but they were too busy castagating Gazza to show who lined it up.
Gaaza is a young keeper learning and at this level mistakes will be more costly. If his confidence has gone then we must loan him out to learn.
Anyway we could not take the necessary three points and on Saturday the pace of Suarez/Sterling will be an interesting test for our defensive sytsem. Hopefully the team will cope better than in the past for if they allow one on ones we will be done.
Watching on a really bad thread, it was hard to judge most things. EG, I can't really comment on the ref, some things were wrong but he seemed an improvement on Sunday. Maybe my thread went awol at the wrong times.
As for your comment re the free kick, Oldfan, I agree. When I watched it again, I thought to myself the problems started with Clyne's tackle (on the replays I saw, he did get the player), continued with the wall placement and then ..... what was the player (who was it? Punch or Clyne, I couldn't make it out) doing who was drifting between Snodgrass and Gazza? He wasn't marking anyone and wasn't putting himself in a covering position. He was just in the way. I might have understood it if it had been a Norwich player had been there, deliberately (but legally) obstructing the keeper's line of vision.
Strasbourg Saint
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8:40am Thu 29 Nov 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:So it was Punch. I can see why you say he was trying to rectify a problem but surely he has a job to do and couldn't have been doing it if he then ran across the area like that.
Oldfan wrote:It was not until I watched MoD that you could see how badly the wall was set up, presumably, that is Gazzas call to create the positioning of it for best effect? It was Puncheon that realised what was happening at the last minute and was close to blocking the shot, but may have distracted Gazza in his attempt to clear, it happened move on. In my opinion for Saturdays game I would use either of the more experienced GKs, not because of what has happened recently, but just for their better knowledge of the game.
The goal looked a team failure as the wall was not correctly positioned. The pundits on MOTD mentioned it but they were too busy castagating Gazza to show who lined it up.
Gaaza is a young keeper learning and at this level mistakes will be more costly. If his confidence has gone then we must loan him out to learn.
Anyway we could not take the necessary three points and on Saturday the pace of Suarez/Sterling will be an interesting test for our defensive sytsem. Hopefully the team will cope better than in the past for if they allow one on ones we will be done.
Maybe Gazza knew what wall he wanted and placed it there deliberately so that it covered a 'Lambertesque, round the wall, near post shot while giving him a decent view of a direct hit. Maybe that line of reason went out the window when Punch ran across him. Nevertheless, it was a clanger.
Well, I'm off to continue my quest to get all of France speaking English. It's working!
OSPREYSAINT
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8:40am Thu 29 Nov 12
bigfella777
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8:55am Thu 29 Nov 12
callcopse
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10:08am Thu 29 Nov 12
I think KD's suspect distribution means we should stick with Gazza. Remember we lost games with KD in the sticks. We've drawn or won with Gazza.
Beer Monster
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12:13pm Thu 29 Nov 12
callcopse wrote:Agreed - that save against Newcastle made sure of a clean sheet and (most vitally) all three points.
I thought the midfield did not have a good night, Norwich got it back too easily, Ramirez disappointed somewhat. Fonte and Shaw needed to be strong and were, Yoshi did a decent job.
I think KD's suspect distribution means we should stick with Gazza. Remember we lost games with KD in the sticks. We've drawn or won with Gazza.
Keep the faith
COYR
insane saint says...
5:45pm Wed 28 Nov 12
COYR
WE WILL WIN AND WIN WELL
TOGETHER AS ONE