Rupert Lowe makes football return

Daily Echo: Rupert Lowe makes football return Rupert Lowe makes football return

RUPERT Lowe is back in football – with Northern Premier League strugglers Garforth Town.

The former Saints chairman has bought the West Yorkshire club and reinstated Simon Clifford – who he employed as a Saints coach in 2005 – as manager.

Lowe has also taken control of Clifford’s SOCATOTS and Brazilian Soccer Schools.

A statement from Lowe said: “Simon Clifford has asked me to help him restore the fortunes of SOCATOTS, Brazilian Soccer Schools and Garforth Town. “When Simon approached me I was well aware of the excellence of the coaching programme that he has developed.

“We worked together when I was chairman of Southampton Football Club.

“I had built up the Academy which had produced players such as Gareth Bale, Theo Walcott, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Adam Lallana, Nathan Dyer, along with many others, and Clive Woodward and I identified Simon Clifford as the most exciting coach with the best philosophy for teaching young people to play exciting, attacking, entertaining and, most importantly, winning football.

“He would have helped to hone and improve our very talented young players but, as is often the case in football, we were not able to complete my long-term plan and I was ousted from the club in 2006.”

Lowe added: “What Simon has achieved over the past decade is quite exceptional, but I believe that with the right structure around him there is a great deal more to come.”

Clifford lasted less than two months at Saints in autumn 2005 after being taken to the club by then performance director Sir Clive Woodward, but has maintained a friendship with Lowe.

He said: He’s probably the only public schoolboy I’ve ever really got on with!

“I never liked the way he was forced out of Southampton and always said to him that if we progressed with Garforth, I’d give up the chairmanship so he’d be back in football.

“Now he’s the majority owner and he’s insisted on me being manager again. I think Rupert reckons I need to have some sort of goal to focus on.”

Garforth are currently bottom of the NPL Division One North and Clifford, 42 – whose outspoken views reportedly caused resentment among Saints’ backroom staff – will be assisted by previous boss Vernol Blair as he looks to turn their fortunes around.

“I was a big prediction person before but, whatever I was like before, we all change,” he said.

“All I will promise is to do my best.”

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8:45am Mon 17 Dec 12

mbetts says...

Brilliant to see the great man back in football at last!

JOKE!!!!

FOAD!!!!
Brilliant to see the great man back in football at last! JOKE!!!! FOAD!!!! mbetts

8:56am Mon 17 Dec 12

Shareholder says...

Glad they've both reached their natural level!
Glad they've both reached their natural level! Shareholder

8:57am Mon 17 Dec 12

scooter75 says...

Bring back Rupert !!
Bring back Rupert !! scooter75

9:04am Mon 17 Dec 12

Andover Saint says...

you can tell the blokes a tw@t just by his first name
you can tell the blokes a tw@t just by his first name Andover Saint

9:05am Mon 17 Dec 12

Clever Dick says...

Lets hope there are plenty of ducks for Rupes to shoot up north!!
Lets hope there are plenty of ducks for Rupes to shoot up north!! Clever Dick

9:06am Mon 17 Dec 12

Clever Dick says...

And is Sir Clive looking for a job?
And is Sir Clive looking for a job? Clever Dick

9:09am Mon 17 Dec 12

mbetts says...

Wonder if their ground has any development potential, maybe he can sell some of the steel from their main stand for scrap, i'm sure he'll get his moneys worth out of the deal just as he did at Saints.

And to take credit for bringing through all our best players over the last decade shows what a contemptible **** he really is, he put us minutes from extinction.
Wonder if their ground has any development potential, maybe he can sell some of the steel from their main stand for scrap, i'm sure he'll get his moneys worth out of the deal just as he did at Saints. And to take credit for bringing through all our best players over the last decade shows what a contemptible **** he really is, he put us minutes from extinction. mbetts

9:10am Mon 17 Dec 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

TWENTY NINE
TWENTY NINE Seedhouse the Unrepentant

9:21am Mon 17 Dec 12

worthing_saint says...

I was going to post "that's one of the funniest things i've heard in months" - but I feel too sorry for Garforth Town to say that.

Has he had enough of shooting ducks or something?
I was going to post "that's one of the funniest things i've heard in months" - but I feel too sorry for Garforth Town to say that. Has he had enough of shooting ducks or something? worthing_saint

9:26am Mon 17 Dec 12

Alicesdad says...

I say chaps jolly hockey sticks eh? Good show that man.. eh what? Cracking story for a Monday morning, incisive investigation, cutting edge comment and a story that is bound to be passed on to the nationals by mid day. Is it on the beeb web site yet?
I say chaps jolly hockey sticks eh? Good show that man.. eh what? Cracking story for a Monday morning, incisive investigation, cutting edge comment and a story that is bound to be passed on to the nationals by mid day. Is it on the beeb web site yet? Alicesdad

9:31am Mon 17 Dec 12

spyware says...

'I was ousted from the club in 2006'......I wander why?
'I was ousted from the club in 2006'......I wander why? spyware

9:31am Mon 17 Dec 12

Pooley says...

Sends shivers down th spine...uuuuugh
Sends shivers down th spine...uuuuugh Pooley

9:37am Mon 17 Dec 12

St Retford says...

Just shows you how subliminal messaging works on the brain. Many, many times Rupert was told to "Garforth and multiply" (or words to that effect) by Saints fans and now look what's happened.
Just shows you how subliminal messaging works on the brain. Many, many times Rupert was told to "Garforth and multiply" (or words to that effect) by Saints fans and now look what's happened. St Retford

9:38am Mon 17 Dec 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

You may all mock but when Garforth win the Champions League with a team of tots, well we'll see who's laughing then!



15.1.13
You may all mock but when Garforth win the Champions League with a team of tots, well we'll see who's laughing then! 15.1.13 Seedhouse the Unrepentant

9:42am Mon 17 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Can we leave this thread to the Skates to talk among themselves?
Can we leave this thread to the Skates to talk among themselves? OSPREYSAINT

9:44am Mon 17 Dec 12

Dover Saint says...

God help Garforth, I reckon he's the only one who can (God that is)
God help Garforth, I reckon he's the only one who can (God that is) Dover Saint

9:54am Mon 17 Dec 12

St Retford says...

Next year's Garforth AGM: "OK, yes, maybe I was rash to try and float us on the stock exchange and maybe I shouldn't have sold everyone over the age of 17, but I've got letters from the chairmen of team like Peckfield, Swillington and Grimston who say that, actually, our football has been really nice to watch and for a while they thought we might actually score against them, and that's all that really matters..."
Next year's Garforth AGM: "OK, yes, maybe I was rash to try and float us on the stock exchange and maybe I shouldn't have sold everyone over the age of 17, but I've got letters from the chairmen of team like Peckfield, Swillington and Grimston who say that, actually, our football has been really nice to watch and for a while they thought we might actually score against them, and that's all that really matters..." St Retford

10:02am Mon 17 Dec 12

Tubbystubb says...

Poor Garforth!!
Never heard of them before this report, but I feel sorry for them already.
Poor Garforth!! Never heard of them before this report, but I feel sorry for them already. Tubbystubb

10:05am Mon 17 Dec 12

mgthesaint says...

I wouldn't wish that creep on anyone,even the skates.....aw come to think of it
I wouldn't wish that creep on anyone,even the skates.....aw come to think of it mgthesaint

10:18am Mon 17 Dec 12

tugboat says...

Sent a shiver down my spine,but we have to see the opportunity here,Thats one pre season friendly sorted and what about the chance to send our academy players to Garforth to get first team experience ? after all we owe wupert for it.
I didnt realise that he was responsible for all the academies success for the last decade-but then again in my defence ,nor did anyone else.
Garford -The home of the duck. Where is it anyway ?
Sent a shiver down my spine,but we have to see the opportunity here,Thats one pre season friendly sorted and what about the chance to send our academy players to Garforth to get first team experience ? after all we owe wupert for it. I didnt realise that he was responsible for all the academies success for the last decade-but then again in my defence ,nor did anyone else. Garford -The home of the duck. Where is it anyway ? tugboat

10:18am Mon 17 Dec 12

costa gaz says...

Was responsible for getting us St Mary's, a superb stadium, after 30 years of false promises by others and one of the best academy's in the land.
Without these we wouldn't have been able to bounce back to where we are today. (and we would have suffered a similar fate if we hadn't moved from the dell).



Still wouldn't want him within a million miles of Saints again though.
Was responsible for getting us St Mary's, a superb stadium, after 30 years of false promises by others and one of the best academy's in the land. Without these we wouldn't have been able to bounce back to where we are today. (and we would have suffered a similar fate if we hadn't moved from the dell). Still wouldn't want him within a million miles of Saints again though. costa gaz

10:24am Mon 17 Dec 12

Dickosfc says...

God, I can’t stand looking at this blokes face!! I guess it’s gonna be a non news day so thought I’d share a cool story. One evening a couple of weeks back a friend of mine was walking his dog round the wreck in Millbrook. He said he saw a young lad practicing free kicks on his own, when he got closer the young lad turned out to be Nathaniel Clyne. Anyway, my mate went in goal and had a kick about with him! Said he was a real down to earth lad. Not the most exiting story but was nice to see we got players who aren’t above themselves and not fazed by a kick about in a local estate.
God, I can’t stand looking at this blokes face!! I guess it’s gonna be a non news day so thought I’d share a cool story. One evening a couple of weeks back a friend of mine was walking his dog round the wreck in Millbrook. He said he saw a young lad practicing free kicks on his own, when he got closer the young lad turned out to be Nathaniel Clyne. Anyway, my mate went in goal and had a kick about with him! Said he was a real down to earth lad. Not the most exiting story but was nice to see we got players who aren’t above themselves and not fazed by a kick about in a local estate. Dickosfc

10:31am Mon 17 Dec 12

Clever Dick says...

costa gaz wrote:
Was responsible for getting us St Mary's, a superb stadium, after 30 years of false promises by others and one of the best academy's in the land.
Without these we wouldn't have been able to bounce back to where we are today. (and we would have suffered a similar fate if we hadn't moved from the dell).



Still wouldn't want him within a million miles of Saints again though.
U r right there. If he'd stuck to the business side of things and left the footie to those who actually know something about it maybe he wouldn't have become a laughing stock.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Was responsible for getting us St Mary's, a superb stadium, after 30 years of false promises by others and one of the best academy's in the land. Without these we wouldn't have been able to bounce back to where we are today. (and we would have suffered a similar fate if we hadn't moved from the dell). Still wouldn't want him within a million miles of Saints again though.[/p][/quote]U r right there. If he'd stuck to the business side of things and left the footie to those who actually know something about it maybe he wouldn't have become a laughing stock. Clever Dick

10:32am Mon 17 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Fit and proper?
Fit and proper? OSPREYSAINT

10:56am Mon 17 Dec 12

Confucious says...

tugboat wrote:
Sent a shiver down my spine,but we have to see the opportunity here,Thats one pre season friendly sorted and what about the chance to send our academy players to Garforth to get first team experience ? after all we owe wupert for it.
I didnt realise that he was responsible for all the academies success for the last decade-but then again in my defence ,nor did anyone else.
Garford -The home of the duck. Where is it anyway ?
Good job it's not the home of the turkey. For them, getting this news would be like sitting on a pile of Paxo listening to Christmas carols.
[quote][p][bold]tugboat[/bold] wrote: Sent a shiver down my spine,but we have to see the opportunity here,Thats one pre season friendly sorted and what about the chance to send our academy players to Garforth to get first team experience ? after all we owe wupert for it. I didnt realise that he was responsible for all the academies success for the last decade-but then again in my defence ,nor did anyone else. Garford -The home of the duck. Where is it anyway ?[/p][/quote]Good job it's not the home of the turkey. For them, getting this news would be like sitting on a pile of Paxo listening to Christmas carols. Confucious

11:09am Mon 17 Dec 12

rocketone says...

Very dodgy ground Rupert.
Made a lot of claims about what he did for Saints and the dates look right.
Loads of people attached to the club at the time called him a likeable toff.
Nobody at the moment is saying anything like as nice about Cortese.
Is he a future monster?
I am fully behind the club and support it 100%, does that make me foolishly blind?
Rupert was a tw4t, we all knew that then, we all know that now. For a while though, we had some good times as well!
Best of luck to him and I hope he has learnt lessons from his experience with us.
Clifford was intensely disliked by virtually everybody who had any contact with him, do not see that changing. Bighead! Who done nothing to be bigheaded about !
Very dodgy ground Rupert. Made a lot of claims about what he did for Saints and the dates look right. Loads of people attached to the club at the time called him a likeable toff. Nobody at the moment is saying anything like as nice about Cortese. Is he a future monster? I am fully behind the club and support it 100%, does that make me foolishly blind? Rupert was a tw4t, we all knew that then, we all know that now. For a while though, we had some good times as well! Best of luck to him and I hope he has learnt lessons from his experience with us. Clifford was intensely disliked by virtually everybody who had any contact with him, do not see that changing. Bighead! Who done nothing to be bigheaded about ! rocketone

11:18am Mon 17 Dec 12

insane saint says...

shame on you Echo we shall and should not ever utter the dark lords name tut tut tut......

now back to the here and now,
3 points on the table for Saturday.
we need to stick together and act as one we are the true red and white stripes.

we need to send the fake imitation back up north the same as Newcastle with nowt and rise up the league.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON THE PRIDE OF THE SOUTH

RED ARMY

COYR
shame on you Echo we shall and should not ever utter the dark lords name tut tut tut...... now back to the here and now, 3 points on the table for Saturday. we need to stick together and act as one we are the true red and white stripes. we need to send the fake imitation back up north the same as Newcastle with nowt and rise up the league. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON THE PRIDE OF THE SOUTH RED ARMY COYR insane saint

11:22am Mon 17 Dec 12

miltonarcher says...

We were 7th in the prem under Lowe and Hoddle, then following Hoddles departure it all went pear shaped. BUT, if Hoddle had been allowed to come back who knows...............
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We were 7th in the prem under Lowe and Hoddle, then following Hoddles departure it all went pear shaped. BUT, if Hoddle had been allowed to come back who knows............... .................... .................... .................... .................... ........ miltonarcher

11:22am Mon 17 Dec 12

Jesus_02 says...

rocketone wrote:
Very dodgy ground Rupert. Made a lot of claims about what he did for Saints and the dates look right. Loads of people attached to the club at the time called him a likeable toff. Nobody at the moment is saying anything like as nice about Cortese. Is he a future monster? I am fully behind the club and support it 100%, does that make me foolishly blind? Rupert was a tw4t, we all knew that then, we all know that now. For a while though, we had some good times as well! Best of luck to him and I hope he has learnt lessons from his experience with us. Clifford was intensely disliked by virtually everybody who had any contact with him, do not see that changing. Bighead! Who done nothing to be bigheaded about !
Goes to show that, being good with the media and being likeable achieves nothing.

Cortese is not a future monster he just a monster. At the moment he is our monster. As far as im concerned that ok by me
[quote][p][bold]rocketone[/bold] wrote: Very dodgy ground Rupert. Made a lot of claims about what he did for Saints and the dates look right. Loads of people attached to the club at the time called him a likeable toff. Nobody at the moment is saying anything like as nice about Cortese. Is he a future monster? I am fully behind the club and support it 100%, does that make me foolishly blind? Rupert was a tw4t, we all knew that then, we all know that now. For a while though, we had some good times as well! Best of luck to him and I hope he has learnt lessons from his experience with us. Clifford was intensely disliked by virtually everybody who had any contact with him, do not see that changing. Bighead! Who done nothing to be bigheaded about ![/p][/quote]Goes to show that, being good with the media and being likeable achieves nothing. Cortese is not a future monster he just a monster. At the moment he is our monster. As far as im concerned that ok by me Jesus_02

11:23am Mon 17 Dec 12

Beer Monster says...

Oh dear, the end of the world has come early for Garforth
Oh dear, the end of the world has come early for Garforth Beer Monster

11:24am Mon 17 Dec 12

saintbobby says...

Clever Dick wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Was responsible for getting us St Mary's, a superb stadium, after 30 years of false promises by others and one of the best academy's in the land.
Without these we wouldn't have been able to bounce back to where we are today. (and we would have suffered a similar fate if we hadn't moved from the dell).



Still wouldn't want him within a million miles of Saints again though.
U r right there. If he'd stuck to the business side of things and left the footie to those who actually know something about it maybe he wouldn't have become a laughing stock.
These are fair comments. He did get Saints out of The Dell, but as mentioned then it went all pear shaped. But some appreciation for the development of the marvellous St. Mary's is due to him.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Was responsible for getting us St Mary's, a superb stadium, after 30 years of false promises by others and one of the best academy's in the land. Without these we wouldn't have been able to bounce back to where we are today. (and we would have suffered a similar fate if we hadn't moved from the dell). Still wouldn't want him within a million miles of Saints again though.[/p][/quote]U r right there. If he'd stuck to the business side of things and left the footie to those who actually know something about it maybe he wouldn't have become a laughing stock.[/p][/quote]These are fair comments. He did get Saints out of The Dell, but as mentioned then it went all pear shaped. But some appreciation for the development of the marvellous St. Mary's is due to him. saintbobby

11:27am Mon 17 Dec 12

Stroppy_gramps says...

Thats very nice, well done on getting back into Football.
Now if you don't mind we're a bit busy in the Premier League. It's been great catching up on history although nobody is quite sure how you managed to personally produce all that talent when you had a football club to run. Obviously some of us feel differently about how those players developed.

Feel free to remain north of the Thames Rupert.
Thats very nice, well done on getting back into Football. Now if you don't mind we're a bit busy in the Premier League. It's been great catching up on history although nobody is quite sure how you managed to personally produce all that talent when you had a football club to run. Obviously some of us feel differently about how those players developed. Feel free to remain north of the Thames Rupert. Stroppy_gramps

11:59am Mon 17 Dec 12

promised land says...

I'm sure the skates will have the opportunity to cross paths with Rupert when they draw Garforth Town in the FA Vase ?
I'm sure the skates will have the opportunity to cross paths with Rupert when they draw Garforth Town in the FA Vase ? promised land

12:08pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Fan Tastic says...

Sorry guys, lets put the record straight. Rupert was jut one of several people who contributed to finding the site and building the stadum. Also, it was Lawrie Mac who began the philosophy of an Academy at SFC. Also, most importantly he was proved at the end of the day to not even be a good businessman, not having a good relatioinship with the Bank, and not foreseeing that they would want their £5m loan back. He got us relegated and took us into administrtion. That is the truth, we shouldnt forget that.
Sorry guys, lets put the record straight. Rupert was jut one of several people who contributed to finding the site and building the stadum. Also, it was Lawrie Mac who began the philosophy of an Academy at SFC. Also, most importantly he was proved at the end of the day to not even be a good businessman, not having a good relatioinship with the Bank, and not foreseeing that they would want their £5m loan back. He got us relegated and took us into administrtion. That is the truth, we shouldnt forget that. Fan Tastic

12:09pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Fan Tastic says...

Sorry guys, lets put the record straight. Rupert was jut one of several people who contributed to finding the site and building the stadum. Also, it was Lawrie Mac who began the philosophy of an Academy at SFC. Also, most importantly he was proved at the end of the day to not even be a good businessman, not having a good relatioinship with the Bank, and not foreseeing that they would want their £5m loan back. He got us relegated and took us into administrtion. That is the truth, we shouldnt forget that.
Sorry guys, lets put the record straight. Rupert was jut one of several people who contributed to finding the site and building the stadum. Also, it was Lawrie Mac who began the philosophy of an Academy at SFC. Also, most importantly he was proved at the end of the day to not even be a good businessman, not having a good relatioinship with the Bank, and not foreseeing that they would want their £5m loan back. He got us relegated and took us into administrtion. That is the truth, we shouldnt forget that. Fan Tastic

12:20pm Mon 17 Dec 12

mbetts says...

promised land wrote:
I'm sure the skates will have the opportunity to cross paths with Rupert when they draw Garforth Town in the FA Vase ?
And again when they meet in the league in a couple of seasons time
[quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: I'm sure the skates will have the opportunity to cross paths with Rupert when they draw Garforth Town in the FA Vase ?[/p][/quote]And again when they meet in the league in a couple of seasons time mbetts

12:28pm Mon 17 Dec 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

miltonarcher wrote:
We were 7th in the prem under Lowe and Hoddle, then following Hoddles departure it all went pear shaped. BUT, if Hoddle had been allowed to come back who knows...............

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Why did Hoddle leave?

Dave Jones had done the donkey work for the side that he inherited, he should have done better with the Tottenham side that he ran off to manage, but didn't. I have never wanted to see him come back.
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: We were 7th in the prem under Lowe and Hoddle, then following Hoddles departure it all went pear shaped. BUT, if Hoddle had been allowed to come back who knows............... .................... .................... .................... .................... ........[/p][/quote]Why did Hoddle leave? Dave Jones had done the donkey work for the side that he inherited, he should have done better with the Tottenham side that he ran off to manage, but didn't. I have never wanted to see him come back. OSPREYSAINT

12:34pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Southampton Dominance says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You may all mock but when Garforth win the Champions League with a team of tots, well we'll see who's laughing then!



15.1.13
Oh I get it! How frightfully witty! Oscar Wilde meets Forest Gump! You poor little thing!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You may all mock but when Garforth win the Champions League with a team of tots, well we'll see who's laughing then! 15.1.13[/p][/quote]Oh I get it! How frightfully witty! Oscar Wilde meets Forest Gump! You poor little thing! Southampton Dominance

12:51pm Mon 17 Dec 12

dly397 says...

St Retford wrote:
Next year's Garforth AGM: "OK, yes, maybe I was rash to try and float us on the stock exchange and maybe I shouldn't have sold everyone over the age of 17, but I've got letters from the chairmen of team like Peckfield, Swillington and Grimston who say that, actually, our football has been really nice to watch and for a while they thought we might actually score against them, and that's all that really matters..."
...and we're just about to launch our new radio station - Radio Ga Garforth - which, if my previous efforts are anything to go by, should do quite well."
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Next year's Garforth AGM: "OK, yes, maybe I was rash to try and float us on the stock exchange and maybe I shouldn't have sold everyone over the age of 17, but I've got letters from the chairmen of team like Peckfield, Swillington and Grimston who say that, actually, our football has been really nice to watch and for a while they thought we might actually score against them, and that's all that really matters..."[/p][/quote]...and we're just about to launch our new radio station - Radio Ga Garforth - which, if my previous efforts are anything to go by, should do quite well." dly397

12:56pm Mon 17 Dec 12

SO50 Saint says...

Aah the Saint I used to enjoy that station whilst I was away at University. The Friday night phone in was usually pretty decent
Aah the Saint I used to enjoy that station whilst I was away at University. The Friday night phone in was usually pretty decent SO50 Saint

1:11pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Lord Duckhunter II says...

Finaly Lord Lowe's 10,000 strong army are able to return !!

We built it, now you fill it. Unlike our fishy friends, we filled it in the lower leagues and fully expect Lord Lowe's stadium to be expanded in the near future !!
Finaly Lord Lowe's 10,000 strong army are able to return !! We built it, now you fill it. Unlike our fishy friends, we filled it in the lower leagues and fully expect Lord Lowe's stadium to be expanded in the near future !! Lord Duckhunter II

1:21pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Stafford Saint says...

Never again will Saints have an "outsider to football" running things: alienating former players; not getting along with the press; charging for ticket purchases and car parking; altering the season ticket instalments ...! OK I'm being provocative!

Being a chairman is a precarious position. Whilst the going is good, things will probably be ok.
Long may things be ok for Cortese.
Never again will Saints have an "outsider to football" running things: alienating former players; not getting along with the press; charging for ticket purchases and car parking; altering the season ticket instalments ...! OK I'm being provocative! Being a chairman is a precarious position. Whilst the going is good, things will probably be ok. Long may things be ok for Cortese. Stafford Saint

1:32pm Mon 17 Dec 12

st1halo says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
We were 7th in the prem under Lowe and Hoddle, then following Hoddles departure it all went pear shaped. BUT, if Hoddle had been allowed to come back who knows...............


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Why did Hoddle leave?

Dave Jones had done the donkey work for the side that he inherited, he should have done better with the Tottenham side that he ran off to manage, but didn't. I have never wanted to see him come back.
Me neither, he didn't achieve anything with anyone else,he was atw@t!


STID
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: We were 7th in the prem under Lowe and Hoddle, then following Hoddles departure it all went pear shaped. BUT, if Hoddle had been allowed to come back who knows............... .................... .................... .................... .................... ........[/p][/quote]Why did Hoddle leave? Dave Jones had done the donkey work for the side that he inherited, he should have done better with the Tottenham side that he ran off to manage, but didn't. I have never wanted to see him come back.[/p][/quote]Me neither, he didn't achieve anything with anyone else,he was atw@t! STID st1halo

1:41pm Mon 17 Dec 12

st1halo says...

saintbobby wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Was responsible for getting us St Mary's, a superb stadium, after 30 years of false promises by others and one of the best academy's in the land.
Without these we wouldn't have been able to bounce back to where we are today. (and we would have suffered a similar fate if we hadn't moved from the dell).



Still wouldn't want him within a million miles of Saints again though.
U r right there. If he'd stuck to the business side of things and left the footie to those who actually know something about it maybe he wouldn't have become a laughing stock.
These are fair comments. He did get Saints out of The Dell, but as mentioned then it went all pear shaped. But some appreciation for the development of the marvellous St. Mary's is due to him.
I don't accept these comments at all! The stadium would have had to come, it was just during his tenure which I hasten to add, made him a personal fortune at our club's expense!
He p1ssed away our long top flight record with a lack of investment and sold the jewels that the academy brought forth whilst lining his own pockets and then left us to pick up the pieces.
To me, he is the anti-christ, and I personally wont forgive him.


STID
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Was responsible for getting us St Mary's, a superb stadium, after 30 years of false promises by others and one of the best academy's in the land. Without these we wouldn't have been able to bounce back to where we are today. (and we would have suffered a similar fate if we hadn't moved from the dell). Still wouldn't want him within a million miles of Saints again though.[/p][/quote]U r right there. If he'd stuck to the business side of things and left the footie to those who actually know something about it maybe he wouldn't have become a laughing stock.[/p][/quote]These are fair comments. He did get Saints out of The Dell, but as mentioned then it went all pear shaped. But some appreciation for the development of the marvellous St. Mary's is due to him.[/p][/quote]I don't accept these comments at all! The stadium would have had to come, it was just during his tenure which I hasten to add, made him a personal fortune at our club's expense! He p1ssed away our long top flight record with a lack of investment and sold the jewels that the academy brought forth whilst lining his own pockets and then left us to pick up the pieces. To me, he is the anti-christ, and I personally wont forgive him. STID st1halo

1:42pm Mon 17 Dec 12

lowe esteem says...

tugboat wrote:
Sent a shiver down my spine,but we have to see the opportunity here,Thats one pre season friendly sorted and what about the chance to send our academy players to Garforth to get first team experience ? after all we owe wupert for it.
I didnt realise that he was responsible for all the academies success for the last decade-but then again in my defence ,nor did anyone else.
Garford -The home of the duck. Where is it anyway ?
Leeds, tha'knows...'appen i've sent warnin' t'locals, they've already had a past-it Brazilian and Gazza turn out for 'em. Is that the same Simon Clifford who should have won England the World Cup by now? I was wondering where Del and Rodney would turn up, expect they've sent a message out for Uncle Albert (aka Sir Clive) too?
This time next year...........

Don't get me started on Duckman claiming credit for the only two things he ever bowed to fan pressure on...St Mary's and the youth system.
[quote][p][bold]tugboat[/bold] wrote: Sent a shiver down my spine,but we have to see the opportunity here,Thats one pre season friendly sorted and what about the chance to send our academy players to Garforth to get first team experience ? after all we owe wupert for it. I didnt realise that he was responsible for all the academies success for the last decade-but then again in my defence ,nor did anyone else. Garford -The home of the duck. Where is it anyway ?[/p][/quote]Leeds, tha'knows...'appen i've sent warnin' t'locals, they've already had a past-it Brazilian and Gazza turn out for 'em. Is that the same Simon Clifford who should have won England the World Cup by now? I was wondering where Del and Rodney would turn up, expect they've sent a message out for Uncle Albert (aka Sir Clive) too? This time next year........... Don't get me started on Duckman claiming credit for the only two things he ever bowed to fan pressure on...St Mary's and the youth system. lowe esteem

1:42pm Mon 17 Dec 12

St Retford says...

Stafford Saint wrote:
Never again will Saints have an "outsider to football" running things: alienating former players; not getting along with the press; charging for ticket purchases and car parking; altering the season ticket instalments ...! OK I'm being provocative!

Being a chairman is a precarious position. Whilst the going is good, things will probably be ok.
Long may things be ok for Cortese.
Only a Grade A tw@t could possibly object to Cortese. Unless you're some sort of sadist who prefers Prenton Park to Anfield then you have to say we've struck gold with our chairman. I wouldn't swap him for anyone.
[quote][p][bold]Stafford Saint[/bold] wrote: Never again will Saints have an "outsider to football" running things: alienating former players; not getting along with the press; charging for ticket purchases and car parking; altering the season ticket instalments ...! OK I'm being provocative! Being a chairman is a precarious position. Whilst the going is good, things will probably be ok. Long may things be ok for Cortese.[/p][/quote]Only a Grade A tw@t could possibly object to Cortese. Unless you're some sort of sadist who prefers Prenton Park to Anfield then you have to say we've struck gold with our chairman. I wouldn't swap him for anyone. St Retford

1:46pm Mon 17 Dec 12

st1halo says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
Aah the Saint I used to enjoy that station whilst I was away at University. The Friday night phone in was usually pretty decent
The Dennis brothers were absolutely awesome on there, missed them when it ended!


STID
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Aah the Saint I used to enjoy that station whilst I was away at University. The Friday night phone in was usually pretty decent[/p][/quote]The Dennis brothers were absolutely awesome on there, missed them when it ended! STID st1halo

1:47pm Mon 17 Dec 12

st1halo says...

St Retford wrote:
Stafford Saint wrote:
Never again will Saints have an "outsider to football" running things: alienating former players; not getting along with the press; charging for ticket purchases and car parking; altering the season ticket instalments ...! OK I'm being provocative!

Being a chairman is a precarious position. Whilst the going is good, things will probably be ok.
Long may things be ok for Cortese.
Only a Grade A tw@t could possibly object to Cortese. Unless you're some sort of sadist who prefers Prenton Park to Anfield then you have to say we've struck gold with our chairman. I wouldn't swap him for anyone.
That!
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stafford Saint[/bold] wrote: Never again will Saints have an "outsider to football" running things: alienating former players; not getting along with the press; charging for ticket purchases and car parking; altering the season ticket instalments ...! OK I'm being provocative! Being a chairman is a precarious position. Whilst the going is good, things will probably be ok. Long may things be ok for Cortese.[/p][/quote]Only a Grade A tw@t could possibly object to Cortese. Unless you're some sort of sadist who prefers Prenton Park to Anfield then you have to say we've struck gold with our chairman. I wouldn't swap him for anyone.[/p][/quote]That! st1halo

1:56pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Dpercsfc says...

"Clive Woodward and I identified Simon Clifford as the most exciting coach with the best philosophy for teaching young people to play exciting, attacking, entertaining and, most importantly, winning football"

This is the same guy who's at Garforth Town right? This is the guy you're bragging about identifying? So anyway, how is Sir Clive's switch to football working out for him these days?
"Clive Woodward and I identified Simon Clifford as the most exciting coach with the best philosophy for teaching young people to play exciting, attacking, entertaining and, most importantly, winning football" This is the same guy who's at Garforth Town right? This is the guy you're bragging about identifying? So anyway, how is Sir Clive's switch to football working out for him these days? Dpercsfc

1:58pm Mon 17 Dec 12

SO50 Saint says...

st1halo says...
1:46pm Mon 17 Dec 12

SO50 Saint wrote:
Aah the Saint I used to enjoy that station whilst I was away at University. The Friday night phone in was usually pretty decent
The Dennis brothers were absolutely awesome on there, missed them when it ended!


STID”


Didn't they also used to have Flash Gordon Watson help them aswell and Nicky Banger if I remember correctly. To be honest I think it was Stewart Dennis who went on to become the pitch announcer he was shocking but not as bad as the present one.
st1halo says... 1:46pm Mon 17 Dec 12 SO50 Saint wrote: Aah the Saint I used to enjoy that station whilst I was away at University. The Friday night phone in was usually pretty decent The Dennis brothers were absolutely awesome on there, missed them when it ended! STID” Didn't they also used to have Flash Gordon Watson help them aswell and Nicky Banger if I remember correctly. To be honest I think it was Stewart Dennis who went on to become the pitch announcer he was shocking but not as bad as the present one. SO50 Saint

2:27pm Mon 17 Dec 12

st1halo says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
st1halo says...
1:46pm Mon 17 Dec 12

SO50 Saint wrote:
Aah the Saint I used to enjoy that station whilst I was away at University. The Friday night phone in was usually pretty decent
The Dennis brothers were absolutely awesome on there, missed them when it ended!


STID”


Didn't they also used to have Flash Gordon Watson help them aswell and Nicky Banger if I remember correctly. To be honest I think it was Stewart Dennis who went on to become the pitch announcer he was shocking but not as bad as the present one.
You may be right 50, Mark Dennis was saying what he liked and constantly being reprimanded. He wasn't happy with the management and said so and didn't give a sh1t who knew it. As I recall Ossie went on there and made some comments that were anti-establishment at the time, and the anti-christ banned him, sadly a little while later he died.
The banter was hysterical though, could have listened to those two all day!!

STID
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: st1halo says... 1:46pm Mon 17 Dec 12 SO50 Saint wrote: Aah the Saint I used to enjoy that station whilst I was away at University. The Friday night phone in was usually pretty decent The Dennis brothers were absolutely awesome on there, missed them when it ended! STID” Didn't they also used to have Flash Gordon Watson help them aswell and Nicky Banger if I remember correctly. To be honest I think it was Stewart Dennis who went on to become the pitch announcer he was shocking but not as bad as the present one.[/p][/quote]You may be right 50, Mark Dennis was saying what he liked and constantly being reprimanded. He wasn't happy with the management and said so and didn't give a sh1t who knew it. As I recall Ossie went on there and made some comments that were anti-establishment at the time, and the anti-christ banned him, sadly a little while later he died. The banter was hysterical though, could have listened to those two all day!! STID st1halo

2:33pm Mon 17 Dec 12

SO50 Saint says...

I miss that it was good to listen to because it was about us and on a Friday night when people could listen to it not still in the pub after the game which the likes of Solent do. The ones on 5 live and talksport etc are decent but half the phone ins I really could not care less about as most are about the top 4 etc
I miss that it was good to listen to because it was about us and on a Friday night when people could listen to it not still in the pub after the game which the likes of Solent do. The ones on 5 live and talksport etc are decent but half the phone ins I really could not care less about as most are about the top 4 etc SO50 Saint

2:40pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Littleton-Saint says...

What a shame. I thought Lowe might make a £5.00 bid for Skintmuff. Guess he still might do that and set up a new Skate Academy as a feeder for Garforth!!
What a shame. I thought Lowe might make a £5.00 bid for Skintmuff. Guess he still might do that and set up a new Skate Academy as a feeder for Garforth!! Littleton-Saint

2:48pm Mon 17 Dec 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

How the mighty have fallen.
How the mighty have fallen. CB FRY LIVES

4:04pm Mon 17 Dec 12

sarfhamton says...

To the tune of Swing Low Sweet Chariot

"Swing Lowe, Swing Rupert Lowe, swing him from the Itchen Bridge!"
To the tune of Swing Low Sweet Chariot "Swing Lowe, Swing Rupert Lowe, swing him from the Itchen Bridge!" sarfhamton

5:00pm Mon 17 Dec 12

tugboat says...

lowe esteem wrote:
tugboat wrote:
Sent a shiver down my spine,but we have to see the opportunity here,Thats one pre season friendly sorted and what about the chance to send our academy players to Garforth to get first team experience ? after all we owe wupert for it.
I didnt realise that he was responsible for all the academies success for the last decade-but then again in my defence ,nor did anyone else.
Garford -The home of the duck. Where is it anyway ?
Leeds, tha'knows...'appen i've sent warnin' t'locals, they've already had a past-it Brazilian and Gazza turn out for 'em. Is that the same Simon Clifford who should have won England the World Cup by now? I was wondering where Del and Rodney would turn up, expect they've sent a message out for Uncle Albert (aka Sir Clive) too?
This time next year...........

Don't get me started on Duckman claiming credit for the only two things he ever bowed to fan pressure on...St Mary's and the youth system.
Thats it then, its all crystal clear-thanks.
Dear old Rupert seems like a "shoe in".
God help Garforth.For you I will now pray.
Ok not PC praying,(appartently
)but I,ll try nonetheless.
You are about to embark on a trip to the darkside,garlic and stakes at the ready,may your god be beside you.
[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tugboat[/bold] wrote: Sent a shiver down my spine,but we have to see the opportunity here,Thats one pre season friendly sorted and what about the chance to send our academy players to Garforth to get first team experience ? after all we owe wupert for it. I didnt realise that he was responsible for all the academies success for the last decade-but then again in my defence ,nor did anyone else. Garford -The home of the duck. Where is it anyway ?[/p][/quote]Leeds, tha'knows...'appen i've sent warnin' t'locals, they've already had a past-it Brazilian and Gazza turn out for 'em. Is that the same Simon Clifford who should have won England the World Cup by now? I was wondering where Del and Rodney would turn up, expect they've sent a message out for Uncle Albert (aka Sir Clive) too? This time next year........... Don't get me started on Duckman claiming credit for the only two things he ever bowed to fan pressure on...St Mary's and the youth system.[/p][/quote]Thats it then, its all crystal clear-thanks. Dear old Rupert seems like a "shoe in". God help Garforth.For you I will now pray. Ok not PC praying,(appartently )but I,ll try nonetheless. You are about to embark on a trip to the darkside,garlic and stakes at the ready,may your god be beside you. tugboat

5:19pm Mon 17 Dec 12

ShakeyWiffles says...

God. Garforth I feel unbelievably sorry for you!
God. Garforth I feel unbelievably sorry for you! ShakeyWiffles

5:30pm Mon 17 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

Garforth...our deepest condolences..the man destroyed our club and was never ever, no really not ever wrong...
Garforth...our deepest condolences..the man destroyed our club and was never ever, no really not ever wrong... warrens 76

5:48pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Tye-Dye pt2 says...

Oh cr@p!! Anyone got a spare laptop screen for sale? I have a compulsive reaction to punch that w*****s face every time I see it, this is going to be costly! Good luck Garforth, you have our deepest sympathy!


OTIH!!!!
Oh cr@p!! Anyone got a spare laptop screen for sale? I have a compulsive reaction to punch that w*****s face every time I see it, this is going to be costly! Good luck Garforth, you have our deepest sympathy! OTIH!!!! Tye-Dye pt2

5:50pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Jameski says...

St Retford wrote:
Stafford Saint wrote:
Never again will Saints have an "outsider to football" running things: alienating former players; not getting along with the press; charging for ticket purchases and car parking; altering the season ticket instalments ...! OK I'm being provocative!

Being a chairman is a precarious position. Whilst the going is good, things will probably be ok.
Long may things be ok for Cortese.
Only a Grade A tw@t could possibly object to Cortese. Unless you're some sort of sadist who prefers Prenton Park to Anfield then you have to say we've struck gold with our chairman. I wouldn't swap him for anyone.
So Matt le Tissier, Lawrie McMenemy and Francis Benali are all grade A ****?
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stafford Saint[/bold] wrote: Never again will Saints have an "outsider to football" running things: alienating former players; not getting along with the press; charging for ticket purchases and car parking; altering the season ticket instalments ...! OK I'm being provocative! Being a chairman is a precarious position. Whilst the going is good, things will probably be ok. Long may things be ok for Cortese.[/p][/quote]Only a Grade A tw@t could possibly object to Cortese. Unless you're some sort of sadist who prefers Prenton Park to Anfield then you have to say we've struck gold with our chairman. I wouldn't swap him for anyone.[/p][/quote]So Matt le Tissier, Lawrie McMenemy and Francis Benali are all grade A ****? Jameski

5:56pm Mon 17 Dec 12

LeTissiersEarLobe says...

Nob
Nob LeTissiersEarLobe

6:00pm Mon 17 Dec 12

warrens 76 says...

LeTissiersEarLobe wrote:
Nob
"Cheese"¨
[quote][p][bold]LeTissiersEarLobe[/bold] wrote: Nob[/p][/quote]"Cheese"¨ warrens 76

7:02pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Optimist says...

In the book "the talent code" (at least I think it's that one), Simon does come across as being a bit pretentious, but all of his philosophies are sound.
There is a very key developmental stage between the ages of 5-10 where most of our fine motor skills are developed. Programs like soccertots are excellent at highlighting this stage of coaching, stressing the need for positive reinforcement and a stable, welcoming learning environment. But of course it is not the only one & Simon is not the only coach in the world to adopt this philosophy, just an early adopter.


And Rupert... where you went wrong was in appointing yes men like Gray & Wigley, both highly skilled coaches but terrible strategists & man-managers. Three managers in a season = relegation = added financial burden = administration.

and FYI for any Cortese haters, apparently he pays for his own ticket too. No-one is safe from the chairman who stole freebies, not even himself.
In the book "the talent code" (at least I think it's that one), Simon does come across as being a bit pretentious, but all of his philosophies are sound. There is a very key developmental stage between the ages of 5-10 where most of our fine motor skills are developed. Programs like soccertots are excellent at highlighting this stage of coaching, stressing the need for positive reinforcement and a stable, welcoming learning environment. But of course it is not the only one & Simon is not the only coach in the world to adopt this philosophy, just an early adopter. And Rupert... where you went wrong was in appointing yes men like Gray & Wigley, both highly skilled coaches but terrible strategists & man-managers. Three managers in a season = relegation = added financial burden = administration. and FYI for any Cortese haters, apparently he pays for his own ticket too. No-one is safe from the chairman who stole freebies, not even himself. Optimist

7:44pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Clever Dick says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
What a shame. I thought Lowe might make a £5.00 bid for Skintmuff. Guess he still might do that and set up a new Skate Academy as a feeder for Garforth!!
Come on now. Rupee would never waste a fiver on something that's not worth tuppence. He's gone to a much bigger club than Skuntsmouth!
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: What a shame. I thought Lowe might make a £5.00 bid for Skintmuff. Guess he still might do that and set up a new Skate Academy as a feeder for Garforth!![/p][/quote]Come on now. Rupee would never waste a fiver on something that's not worth tuppence. He's gone to a much bigger club than Skuntsmouth! Clever Dick

8:24pm Mon 17 Dec 12

florida saint says...

swing low rupert swing low. you are at the right level now, what a duck head you are , i cringed everytime you openened your mouth on tv you made us a laughing stock, you were the wosrt thing that happened to saints, you destroyed us slowly bit by bit, now please stay up north, at least your flat cap wont look out of place.
swing low rupert swing low. you are at the right level now, what a duck head you are , i cringed everytime you openened your mouth on tv you made us a laughing stock, you were the wosrt thing that happened to saints, you destroyed us slowly bit by bit, now please stay up north, at least your flat cap wont look out of place. florida saint

8:49pm Mon 17 Dec 12

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

Shareholder wrote:
Glad they've both reached their natural level!
How LOWE can you go !!
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Glad they've both reached their natural level![/p][/quote]How LOWE can you go !! SPIKEISLANDTRADER

6:18am Tue 18 Dec 12

SOLENTDRIFTER says...

R.I.P. Garforth Town - Our thoughts are with you and your loved ones...
R.I.P. Garforth Town - Our thoughts are with you and your loved ones... SOLENTDRIFTER

11:10am Tue 18 Dec 12

lowemustgo says...

Oh wow! Bring back 'total football' with Portaloo and Wotsit!!!
Oh wow! Bring back 'total football' with Portaloo and Wotsit!!! lowemustgo

2:28pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Sunny Saint says...

costa gaz wrote:
Was responsible for getting us St Mary's, a superb stadium, after 30 years of false promises by others and one of the best academy's in the land.
Without these we wouldn't have been able to bounce back to where we are today. (and we would have suffered a similar fate if we hadn't moved from the dell).



Still wouldn't want him within a million miles of Saints again though.
WRONG!!!
He was the w@nker that lost us Stoneham. It was Southampton City Council that stepped in and got us St Mary's. Lowe just got the mortgage, which even though that was not difficult on the back of the Dell land. However, him and that tw@t Cowan got us the crappiest mortgage deal available, and came a Natts Pube away from defaulting on the payments and getting the bank to foreclose on us.
The guy is nothing but a crook!!!!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Was responsible for getting us St Mary's, a superb stadium, after 30 years of false promises by others and one of the best academy's in the land. Without these we wouldn't have been able to bounce back to where we are today. (and we would have suffered a similar fate if we hadn't moved from the dell). Still wouldn't want him within a million miles of Saints again though.[/p][/quote]WRONG!!! He was the w@nker that lost us Stoneham. It was Southampton City Council that stepped in and got us St Mary's. Lowe just got the mortgage, which even though that was not difficult on the back of the Dell land. However, him and that tw@t Cowan got us the crappiest mortgage deal available, and came a Natts Pube away from defaulting on the payments and getting the bank to foreclose on us. The guy is nothing but a crook!!!! Sunny Saint

2:29pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Sunny Saint says...

saintbobby wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Was responsible for getting us St Mary's, a superb stadium, after 30 years of false promises by others and one of the best academy's in the land.
Without these we wouldn't have been able to bounce back to where we are today. (and we would have suffered a similar fate if we hadn't moved from the dell).



Still wouldn't want him within a million miles of Saints again though.
U r right there. If he'd stuck to the business side of things and left the footie to those who actually know something about it maybe he wouldn't have become a laughing stock.
These are fair comments. He did get Saints out of The Dell, but as mentioned then it went all pear shaped. But some appreciation for the development of the marvellous St. Mary's is due to him.
WRONG!!!
He was the w@nker that lost us Stoneham. It was Southampton City Council that stepped in and got us St Mary's. Lowe just got the mortgage, which even though that was not difficult on the back of the Dell land. However, him and that tw@t Cowan got us the crappiest mortgage deal available, and came a Natts Pube away from defaulting on the payments and getting the bank to foreclose on us.
The guy is nothing but a crook!!!!
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Was responsible for getting us St Mary's, a superb stadium, after 30 years of false promises by others and one of the best academy's in the land. Without these we wouldn't have been able to bounce back to where we are today. (and we would have suffered a similar fate if we hadn't moved from the dell). Still wouldn't want him within a million miles of Saints again though.[/p][/quote]U r right there. If he'd stuck to the business side of things and left the footie to those who actually know something about it maybe he wouldn't have become a laughing stock.[/p][/quote]These are fair comments. He did get Saints out of The Dell, but as mentioned then it went all pear shaped. But some appreciation for the development of the marvellous St. Mary's is due to him.[/p][/quote]WRONG!!! He was the w@nker that lost us Stoneham. It was Southampton City Council that stepped in and got us St Mary's. Lowe just got the mortgage, which even though that was not difficult on the back of the Dell land. However, him and that tw@t Cowan got us the crappiest mortgage deal available, and came a Natts Pube away from defaulting on the payments and getting the bank to foreclose on us. The guy is nothing but a crook!!!! Sunny Saint

8:36pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Spudsaint says...

Sunny Saint wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Was responsible for getting us St Mary's, a superb stadium, after 30 years of false promises by others and one of the best academy's in the land.
Without these we wouldn't have been able to bounce back to where we are today. (and we would have suffered a similar fate if we hadn't moved from the dell).



Still wouldn't want him within a million miles of Saints again though.
U r right there. If he'd stuck to the business side of things and left the footie to those who actually know something about it maybe he wouldn't have become a laughing stock.
These are fair comments. He did get Saints out of The Dell, but as mentioned then it went all pear shaped. But some appreciation for the development of the marvellous St. Mary's is due to him.
WRONG!!!
He was the w@nker that lost us Stoneham. It was Southampton City Council that stepped in and got us St Mary's. Lowe just got the mortgage, which even though that was not difficult on the back of the Dell land. However, him and that tw@t Cowan got us the crappiest mortgage deal available, and came a Natts Pube away from defaulting on the payments and getting the bank to foreclose on us.
The guy is nothing but a crook!!!!
Well said. Don't be conned. The tw@t was not responsible for our excellent Academy, which long pre-dated his regime, and thankfully has survived the complete chaos born of his arrogance. His role in delivering SMS is also over estimated. If he'd invested as much of his own cash in the team rather than in self publicity then we would never have ended up in the mess we did.
[quote][p][bold]Sunny Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Was responsible for getting us St Mary's, a superb stadium, after 30 years of false promises by others and one of the best academy's in the land. Without these we wouldn't have been able to bounce back to where we are today. (and we would have suffered a similar fate if we hadn't moved from the dell). Still wouldn't want him within a million miles of Saints again though.[/p][/quote]U r right there. If he'd stuck to the business side of things and left the footie to those who actually know something about it maybe he wouldn't have become a laughing stock.[/p][/quote]These are fair comments. He did get Saints out of The Dell, but as mentioned then it went all pear shaped. But some appreciation for the development of the marvellous St. Mary's is due to him.[/p][/quote]WRONG!!! He was the w@nker that lost us Stoneham. It was Southampton City Council that stepped in and got us St Mary's. Lowe just got the mortgage, which even though that was not difficult on the back of the Dell land. However, him and that tw@t Cowan got us the crappiest mortgage deal available, and came a Natts Pube away from defaulting on the payments and getting the bank to foreclose on us. The guy is nothing but a crook!!!![/p][/quote]Well said. Don't be conned. The tw@t was not responsible for our excellent Academy, which long pre-dated his regime, and thankfully has survived the complete chaos born of his arrogance. His role in delivering SMS is also over estimated. If he'd invested as much of his own cash in the team rather than in self publicity then we would never have ended up in the mess we did. Spudsaint

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