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Cortese in spending talks (From Daily Echo)
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Cortese in spending talks
3:15pm Tuesday 18th December 2012 in Sport
NICOLA CORTESE
The 20 Premier League chairmen have agreed in principle for clubs to have to break even, despite some opposition at a meeting today.
However the exact details of the spending controls has yet to be agreed - specifically around how much wealthy owners can put into the club to cover losses, sources close to the process have disclosed.
The club chairmen – including Saints’ Nicola Cortese - have now asked PL executives to bring back detailed plans on the spending controls for the next meeting on February 6, and on proposals to cap wage rises for players in the short term.
It is understood Manchester City, Fulham and Aston Villa remained opposed to any controls but approval by only 14 of the 20 clubs is needed for the moves to go through.
Comments(57)
Matt Allen
says...
3:42pm Tue 18 Dec 12
Come on Saints, you can do it, let's get those 3 points against Sunderland on Saturday - I cannot wait!
Puddletown Saint
says...
3:58pm Tue 18 Dec 12
mbetts
says...
4:32pm Tue 18 Dec 12
mbetts
says...
4:32pm Tue 18 Dec 12
Over the Edge
says...
4:44pm Tue 18 Dec 12
Over the Edge
says...
4:50pm Tue 18 Dec 12
Lets all laugh at Pompey, Lets all laugh at Pompey, hahahaha hahahaha
Velleity
says...
5:15pm Tue 18 Dec 12
Over the Edge wrote:What have Pompey got to do with this?
When the Portsmouth Supporter Trust Chairman was for his opinion of the Premier League imposing a spending cap he said '' It doesn't matter to us,by the time we reach the top flight of English football the Premier League will be long gone, even if it isn't will still wont have a pot to p1ss in.
Lets all laugh at Pompey, Lets all laugh at Pompey, hahahaha hahahaha
City Saint
says...
5:33pm Tue 18 Dec 12
It shows Cortese's acumen that he supports measures that would have harmed us three seasons ago but helps now.
It also demonstrates that the liebherr estate has already made it clear that it will not fund run on the top for places, which we all knew anyway (but this confirms it for any dreamers out there).
With or with a broad pl deal, we should settle in for a long spell of outgoings matching incoming cash. The offshore loan this season, effectively a bond against known future pl earnings, is evidence of that, too.
A lot better than the Rupert years, when incoming a far exceeded observable spending, and we were bankrupted nonetheless.
franiow
says...
6:20pm Tue 18 Dec 12
damoose
says...
6:30pm Tue 18 Dec 12
Affects the National team so much its painful to watch
damoose
says...
6:33pm Tue 18 Dec 12
City Saint
says...
7:06pm Tue 18 Dec 12
damoose wrote:Looks like a midfielder...
Which just leaves talk of Sanchez moving to the Saints. “Sanchez is slightly below the radar of others such as Falcao, Jackson Martinez and James Rodriguez,” says the Times’ Rory Smith. “Southampton obviously have Gaston Ramirez, so Nigel Adkins is maybe willing to look at South Americans. It’s possible, it’s the right sort of price range. He’s an energetic midfielder and it would make sense, he would probably adapt. I’ll give it a six out of 10.”
warrens 76
says...
8:00pm Tue 18 Dec 12
...say 200 million over 5 years ..prove it is not worth it....
Simple earn what you want..have your Asian deals, play Jung Park knowing he is financing four other world class players...but it a'int sport..
Viva Coca Cola united.and F off.
OSPREYSAINT
says...
8:04pm Tue 18 Dec 12
Baddesley Bill
says...
8:05pm Tue 18 Dec 12
...I think one of the "big" clubs will have to struggle before sanity returns....my money is on Chelski suffering once Mr Abromovic gets bored of the whole deal. Just take a look at Stamford Bridge...it is the same old shed surrounded by fancy brickwork. I can't see any long term future there.
bluewhiteandred
says...
8:09pm Tue 18 Dec 12
Velleity wrote:valleity
Over the Edge wrote:What have Pompey got to do with this?
When the Portsmouth Supporter Trust Chairman was for his opinion of the Premier League imposing a spending cap he said '' It doesn't matter to us,by the time we reach the top flight of English football the Premier League will be long gone, even if it isn't will still wont have a pot to p1ss in.
Lets all laugh at Pompey, Lets all laugh at Pompey, hahahaha hahahaha
cotesse yes he wants to break even as he does not want to get quality players in , he wants to sell your stars and your best academy youth players h wants profit profit profit he s a banker !
Baddesley Bill
says...
8:26pm Tue 18 Dec 12
...this should be good! :O)
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
says...
8:30pm Tue 18 Dec 12
bluewhiteandred wrote:Hello mate, how's things?
Velleity wrote:valleity
Over the Edge wrote:What have Pompey got to do with this?
When the Portsmouth Supporter Trust Chairman was for his opinion of the Premier League imposing a spending cap he said '' It doesn't matter to us,by the time we reach the top flight of English football the Premier League will be long gone, even if it isn't will still wont have a pot to p1ss in.
Lets all laugh at Pompey, Lets all laugh at Pompey, hahahaha hahahaha
cotesse yes he wants to break even as he does not want to get quality players in , he wants to sell your stars and your best academy youth players h wants profit profit profit he s a banker !
I have to say this is the same Cortese who spent £12m on Ramirez and offered to match Arsenals wages in an attempt to persuade Oxo to stay. It is also the same Cortese who is spending £15m on the academy rebuild. So seems you're wrong doesn't it? Are you wrong about the PST too?
mack chinnon
says...
8:31pm Tue 18 Dec 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:Are you taking the pi$$ Bill???
Blue is back to talk big business footballing decisions....
...this should be good! :O)
OSPREYSAINT
says...
8:50pm Tue 18 Dec 12
Velleity wrote:When you think about it, if the Regulations had been applied earlier, the Blue Phew may not have been in the deep do do's that they are in now?
Over the Edge wrote:What have Pompey got to do with this?
When the Portsmouth Supporter Trust Chairman was for his opinion of the Premier League imposing a spending cap he said '' It doesn't matter to us,by the time we reach the top flight of English football the Premier League will be long gone, even if it isn't will still wont have a pot to p1ss in.
Lets all laugh at Pompey, Lets all laugh at Pompey, hahahaha hahahaha
mack chinnon
says...
9:01pm Tue 18 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Lucky they wernt then.
Velleity wrote:When you think about it, if the Regulations had been applied earlier, the Blue Phew may not have been in the deep do do's that they are in now?
Over the Edge wrote:What have Pompey got to do with this?
When the Portsmouth Supporter Trust Chairman was for his opinion of the Premier League imposing a spending cap he said '' It doesn't matter to us,by the time we reach the top flight of English football the Premier League will be long gone, even if it isn't will still wont have a pot to p1ss in.
Lets all laugh at Pompey, Lets all laugh at Pompey, hahahaha hahahaha
Baddesley Bill
says...
9:02pm Tue 18 Dec 12
mack chinnon wrote:Nawwww....I would never belittle a skunt. They our too good at doing that for themselves.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Are you taking the pi$$ Bill???
Blue is back to talk big business footballing decisions....
...this should be good! :O)
Baddesley Bill
says...
9:03pm Tue 18 Dec 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:*are (bloody stella!)
mack chinnon wrote:Nawwww....I would never belittle a skunt. They our too good at doing that for themselves.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Are you taking the pi$$ Bill???
Blue is back to talk big business footballing decisions....
...this should be good! :O)
OSPREYSAINT
says...
9:06pm Tue 18 Dec 12
mack chinnon wrote:You could say that!
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Lucky they wernt then.
Velleity wrote:When you think about it, if the Regulations had been applied earlier, the Blue Phew may not have been in the deep do do's that they are in now?
Over the Edge wrote:What have Pompey got to do with this?
When the Portsmouth Supporter Trust Chairman was for his opinion of the Premier League imposing a spending cap he said '' It doesn't matter to us,by the time we reach the top flight of English football the Premier League will be long gone, even if it isn't will still wont have a pot to p1ss in.
Lets all laugh at Pompey, Lets all laugh at Pompey, hahahaha hahahaha
puppy saint
says...
9:14pm Tue 18 Dec 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:There are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.
Baddesley Bill wrote:*are (bloody stella!)
mack chinnon wrote:Nawwww....I would never belittle a skunt. They our too good at doing that for themselves.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Are you taking the pi$$ Bill???
Blue is back to talk big business footballing decisions....
...this should be good! :O)
There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.
But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld
slugger
says...
9:20pm Tue 18 Dec 12
puppy saint wrote:genius !
Baddesley Bill wrote:There are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.
Baddesley Bill wrote:*are (bloody stella!)
mack chinnon wrote:Nawwww....I would never belittle a skunt. They our too good at doing that for themselves.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Are you taking the pi$$ Bill???
Blue is back to talk big business footballing decisions....
...this should be good! :O)
There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.
But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld
mack chinnon
says...
9:21pm Tue 18 Dec 12
puppy saint wrote:The Queen is a right miserable old cow. I havent seen her crack a smile since Diana died.
Baddesley Bill wrote:There are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.
Baddesley Bill wrote:*are (bloody stella!)
mack chinnon wrote:Nawwww....I would never belittle a skunt. They our too good at doing that for themselves.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Are you taking the pi$$ Bill???
Blue is back to talk big business footballing decisions....
...this should be good! :O)
There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.
But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld
Frankie Boyle. very funny sweaty.
OSPREYSAINT
says...
10:11pm Tue 18 Dec 12
mack chinnon wrote:What has brought this little gem of Treason on, licking a second class stamp and not liking the fishy taste or something?
puppy saint wrote:The Queen is a right miserable old cow. I havent seen her crack a smile since Diana died.
Baddesley Bill wrote:There are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.
Baddesley Bill wrote:*are (bloody stella!)
mack chinnon wrote:Nawwww....I would never belittle a skunt. They our too good at doing that for themselves.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Are you taking the pi$$ Bill???
Blue is back to talk big business footballing decisions....
...this should be good! :O)
There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.
But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld
Frankie Boyle. very funny sweaty.
OSPREYSAINT
says...
10:13pm Tue 18 Dec 12
slugger wrote:He got that from a Confuscius post about the skate situation months ago.
puppy saint wrote:genius !
Baddesley Bill wrote:There are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.
Baddesley Bill wrote:*are (bloody stella!)
mack chinnon wrote:Nawwww....I would never belittle a skunt. They our too good at doing that for themselves.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Are you taking the pi$$ Bill???
Blue is back to talk big business footballing decisions....
...this should be good! :O)
There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.
But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld
puppy saint
says...
10:26pm Tue 18 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:United States Secretary of Defence, Donald Rumsfeld, 2002.
slugger wrote:He got that from a Confuscius post about the skate situation months ago.
puppy saint wrote:genius !
Baddesley Bill wrote:There are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.
Baddesley Bill wrote:*are (bloody stella!)
mack chinnon wrote:Nawwww....I would never belittle a skunt. They our too good at doing that for themselves.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Are you taking the pi$$ Bill???
Blue is back to talk big business footballing decisions....
...this should be good! :O)
There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.
But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld
Baddesley Bill
says...
10:38pm Tue 18 Dec 12
puppy saint wrote:To be fair...Donald Rumsfelt did say it first :O)
OSPREYSAINT wrote:United States Secretary of Defence, Donald Rumsfeld, 2002.
slugger wrote:He got that from a Confuscius post about the skate situation months ago.
puppy saint wrote:genius !
Baddesley Bill wrote:There are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.
Baddesley Bill wrote:*are (bloody stella!)
mack chinnon wrote:Nawwww....I would never belittle a skunt. They our too good at doing that for themselves.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Are you taking the pi$$ Bill???
Blue is back to talk big business footballing decisions....
...this should be good! :O)
There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.
But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
says...
10:50pm Tue 18 Dec 12
Baddesley Bill wrote:Does he post on The News?
puppy saint wrote:To be fair...Donald Rumsfelt did say it first :O)
OSPREYSAINT wrote:United States Secretary of Defence, Donald Rumsfeld, 2002.
slugger wrote:He got that from a Confuscius post about the skate situation months ago.
puppy saint wrote:genius !
Baddesley Bill wrote:There are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.
Baddesley Bill wrote:*are (bloody stella!)
mack chinnon wrote:Nawwww....I would never belittle a skunt. They our too good at doing that for themselves.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Are you taking the pi$$ Bill???
Blue is back to talk big business footballing decisions....
...this should be good! :O)
There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.
But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld
puppy saint
says...
11:26pm Tue 18 Dec 12
"All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Preferred Creditors ever done for us?
Attendee: Brought peace?
PST: Oh, peace - shut up!
There is not one of us who would not gladly suffer death to rid this tiny island of the Preferred Creditors once and for all.
Dissenter: Uh, well, one.
PST: Oh, yeah, yeah, there's one. But otherwise, we're solid.
slugger
says...
11:32pm Tue 18 Dec 12
puppy saint wrote:and "one" becomes thousands .... lol bye bye pompey !
A PST spokessibling said......
"All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Preferred Creditors ever done for us?
Attendee: Brought peace?
PST: Oh, peace - shut up!
There is not one of us who would not gladly suffer death to rid this tiny island of the Preferred Creditors once and for all.
Dissenter: Uh, well, one.
PST: Oh, yeah, yeah, there's one. But otherwise, we're solid.
bluewhiteandred
says...
11:47pm Tue 18 Dec 12
slugger wrote:We are still here aive and kicking money is still coming in the HNW wealthy pompey fans are keeping us going we will have the keys soon !
puppy saint wrote:and "one" becomes thousands .... lol bye bye pompey !
A PST spokessibling said......
"All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Preferred Creditors ever done for us?
Attendee: Brought peace?
PST: Oh, peace - shut up!
There is not one of us who would not gladly suffer death to rid this tiny island of the Preferred Creditors once and for all.
Dissenter: Uh, well, one.
PST: Oh, yeah, yeah, there's one. But otherwise, we're solid.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
says...
11:47pm Tue 18 Dec 12
11:14 PM on 17/12/2012
So quite a weekend having 12000 + with things as they are was good so can we turn it around we must start winning soon i think hartlepool may be a three pointer as they are bottom .
Oh dear.....
puppy saint
says...
11:55pm Tue 18 Dec 12
bluewhiteandred wrote:So not at all actually trading in an insolvent fashion, again?
slugger wrote:We are still here aive and kicking money is still coming in the HNW wealthy pompey fans are keeping us going we will have the keys soon !
puppy saint wrote:and "one" becomes thousands .... lol bye bye pompey !
A PST spokessibling said......
"All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Preferred Creditors ever done for us?
Attendee: Brought peace?
PST: Oh, peace - shut up!
There is not one of us who would not gladly suffer death to rid this tiny island of the Preferred Creditors once and for all.
Dissenter: Uh, well, one.
PST: Oh, yeah, yeah, there's one. But otherwise, we're solid.
fishfinger29
says...
8:03am Wed 19 Dec 12
mbetts wrote:Someone needs to get their facts right? Roman & Chelsea re in favour of the new fair play rules. Chelsea are not mortgaged at all and last year made a annual profit!!
Wonder who thought it was a silly idea? City's Sheik, Roman and The Manc Yanks, who've re-mortgaged the club to the max, who were the last team to win the Premiership that would actually want to comply with fair play or even be able too giving even their existing wage structure?
insane saint
says...
8:49am Wed 19 Dec 12
i hope that don't come back and bite me on the bum.. ohhhhh rrrrrr misses.
saint Compo
says...
8:56am Wed 19 Dec 12
Such a wage bill limit would severely restrict the signing of star players by a club (like Saints) which is trying through investor funds to raise itself to the heights of the top clubs.
What it would lead to, however, on a positive note is the need for owners to invest by way of share capital rather than interest bearing loans. Maybe Cortese is happy with that.
COYR
Alicesdad
says...
9:24am Wed 19 Dec 12
petethephantom
says...
9:24am Wed 19 Dec 12
question 1...Have you heard of, and what do you find on the canary islands
answer.... canaries
question 2.... you also have heard of the virgin islands?
and guess what there are canaries on the virgin island as well
coyr from sydney oz
Strasbourg Saint
says...
9:25am Wed 19 Dec 12
I doubt much will change until a 'big' club really does go to the wall. If it had happened while the skates were in the prem or soon after, that might have woken people up. It's probably too late now, but it would still send out some sort of message and, imo, be better for the fans if the current PFC simply died and a new club was born without the soiled legacy.
I guess, before things change, it will now need something similar to happen to a club who are regularly in the top 6. We can but hope.
Strasbourg Saint
says...
9:30am Wed 19 Dec 12
Alicesdad wrote:..... and to you Alicesdad ..... and, of course, to Alice ...... and to Pete, Mush, Dan, Risingson and all the other overseas fans wherever you are in the world .... and to all the Saints fans scattered around the UK .... and to our regulars from other clubs .... even our regular skunts and WUMs .... yes, even Tebourba and Thomasupton.
Merry Christmas everybody and a Happy New Year.
It is, after all, the season of peace, good will, FA Cup shocks and liquidations.
MERY CHRISTMAS ONE AND ALL!
costa gaz
says...
9:33am Wed 19 Dec 12
saint Compo wrote:Saint compo, you are wasting your time trying to discuss anything thing to do with the subject of the article.
Surely a total wage cap (i.e. on the squad of players in aggregate) as a percentage of revenues would disadvantage the smaller clubs. The big clubs' annual income (including sale of merchandise at home and abroad) is many, many times greater than Saints'.
Such a wage bill limit would severely restrict the signing of star players by a club (like Saints) which is trying through investor funds to raise itself to the heights of the top clubs.
What it would lead to, however, on a positive note is the need for owners to invest by way of share capital rather than interest bearing loans. Maybe Cortese is happy with that.
COYR
This board has been completely ruined by a dozen or so kn0bs who think that their witless comments are of some sort of interest to anyone.
It is now the same names that pop up post after post spouting the same drivel day after day.
If they only realised how boring they all sound.
They'll meet up in the Joshua Tree on Sat to discuss the weeks comments over a couple of pints.
Can imagine that pub on a Saturday full of the echo board dullards. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
...........
Folkestone Saint
says...
9:40am Wed 19 Dec 12
saint Compo wrote:The smaller clubs like ourselves (with a very large catchment area to grow) will have to have good youth systems in place with strong get out/sell on clauses, then when a gem such as shaw comes along we keep them for longer or sell at massive fee's
Surely a total wage cap (i.e. on the squad of players in aggregate) as a percentage of revenues would disadvantage the smaller clubs. The big clubs' annual income (including sale of merchandise at home and abroad) is many, many times greater than Saints'.
Such a wage bill limit would severely restrict the signing of star players by a club (like Saints) which is trying through investor funds to raise itself to the heights of the top clubs.
What it would lead to, however, on a positive note is the need for owners to invest by way of share capital rather than interest bearing loans. Maybe Cortese is happy with that.
COYR
Strasbourg Saint
says...
9:45am Wed 19 Dec 12
costa gaz wrote:Well, that's contributed to the debate!
saint Compo wrote:Saint compo, you are wasting your time trying to discuss anything thing to do with the subject of the article.
Surely a total wage cap (i.e. on the squad of players in aggregate) as a percentage of revenues would disadvantage the smaller clubs. The big clubs' annual income (including sale of merchandise at home and abroad) is many, many times greater than Saints'.
Such a wage bill limit would severely restrict the signing of star players by a club (like Saints) which is trying through investor funds to raise itself to the heights of the top clubs.
What it would lead to, however, on a positive note is the need for owners to invest by way of share capital rather than interest bearing loans. Maybe Cortese is happy with that.
COYR
This board has been completely ruined by a dozen or so kn0bs who think that their witless comments are of some sort of interest to anyone.
It is now the same names that pop up post after post spouting the same drivel day after day.
If they only realised how boring they all sound.
They'll meet up in the Joshua Tree on Sat to discuss the weeks comments over a couple of pints.
Can imagine that pub on a Saturday full of the echo board dullards. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
...........
Instead of throwing your dummy out the pram, Baz, why not simply ignore those you mention and share your thoughts on the subject - thus, restoring the balance of the thread towards, as you put it, 'discussing something to do with the subject of the article.'
petethephantom
says...
9:47am Wed 19 Dec 12
today @ work, we had to dress up in xmas gear, so I wore my saints juersey, shorts and socks. The boss and his deputy came over to me and said
" thats not xmas clothes, can you explain" with a smile on their faces
I replied..." well backin 1880 santa used to wear green, and on the 24th of dec of that year santa, got his reindeers ad began his journey, after leaving lapland ( his home), he ventured thru the world upon arriving in the south of England, a young kid just geting home from chimney sweeping, where his governor gave him for xmas for being a hard worker a potato and a pack of cigarettes ( menthol variety as it was xmas) came upon santa coming down a chimney.
The young boy wearing a saints shirt and santa very impressed with the boy, instantly became a saints supporter, then changing his green colours to red and white.
I told my bosses is true..... look it up on wikapedia....
coyr frm sydney oz
in NA and KD i trust
Folkestone Saint
says...
9:50am Wed 19 Dec 12
petethephantom wrote:Well his other name is "St Nick"
just all thought you like this
today @ work, we had to dress up in xmas gear, so I wore my saints juersey, shorts and socks. The boss and his deputy came over to me and said
" thats not xmas clothes, can you explain" with a smile on their faces
I replied..." well backin 1880 santa used to wear green, and on the 24th of dec of that year santa, got his reindeers ad began his journey, after leaving lapland ( his home), he ventured thru the world upon arriving in the south of England, a young kid just geting home from chimney sweeping, where his governor gave him for xmas for being a hard worker a potato and a pack of cigarettes ( menthol variety as it was xmas) came upon santa coming down a chimney.
The young boy wearing a saints shirt and santa very impressed with the boy, instantly became a saints supporter, then changing his green colours to red and white.
I told my bosses is true..... look it up on wikapedia....
coyr frm sydney oz
in NA and KD i trust
costa gaz
says...
10:11am Wed 19 Dec 12
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Not sure why you call me Baz, I suppose it must amuse you.
costa gaz wrote:Well, that's contributed to the debate!
saint Compo wrote:Saint compo, you are wasting your time trying to discuss anything thing to do with the subject of the article.
Surely a total wage cap (i.e. on the squad of players in aggregate) as a percentage of revenues would disadvantage the smaller clubs. The big clubs' annual income (including sale of merchandise at home and abroad) is many, many times greater than Saints'.
Such a wage bill limit would severely restrict the signing of star players by a club (like Saints) which is trying through investor funds to raise itself to the heights of the top clubs.
What it would lead to, however, on a positive note is the need for owners to invest by way of share capital rather than interest bearing loans. Maybe Cortese is happy with that.
COYR
This board has been completely ruined by a dozen or so kn0bs who think that their witless comments are of some sort of interest to anyone.
It is now the same names that pop up post after post spouting the same drivel day after day.
If they only realised how boring they all sound.
They'll meet up in the Joshua Tree on Sat to discuss the weeks comments over a couple of pints.
Can imagine that pub on a Saturday full of the echo board dullards. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
...........
Instead of throwing your dummy out the pram, Baz, why not simply ignore those you mention and share your thoughts on the subject - thus, restoring the balance of the thread towards, as you put it, 'discussing something to do with the subject of the article.'
I think one of the other comedians called me it some time ago and you, as usual, followed suit.
Restore the balance??? most posters have left this board because of you lot and your pompey chums.
Red n White
says...
10:41am Wed 19 Dec 12
saint Compo wrote:It might disadvantage the smaller clubs, but it would stop them going into admin. Portsmouth were paying roughly 120% of their turnover on wages in the season they got relegated, then with lower income in the Championship it's no wonder it's turned outlike it has. A cap on basic salary would be a good idea, with bigger bonuses allowed on reaching certain achievments, staying up, scoring etc.
Surely a total wage cap (i.e. on the squad of players in aggregate) as a percentage of revenues would disadvantage the smaller clubs. The big clubs' annual income (including sale of merchandise at home and abroad) is many, many times greater than Saints'.
Such a wage bill limit would severely restrict the signing of star players by a club (like Saints) which is trying through investor funds to raise itself to the heights of the top clubs.
What it would lead to, however, on a positive note is the need for owners to invest by way of share capital rather than interest bearing loans. Maybe Cortese is happy with that.
COYR
The Premier League is probably the fairest league in Europe as TV money is distributed fairly to each club, whereas in Spain (and they tried it in Italy), it's down to the clubs to organise their own, so Barca and Madrid obviously get a lot more than the other teams.
I might be wrong, but didn't Cortese turn a loan into share capital within the last year? We then had all those rumours that he was getting ready to sell the club.
Folkestone Saint
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11:38am Wed 19 Dec 12
Southampton Dominance wrote:So brave of you to attack people behind a computer dom-is-a-nonce, do you follow a football team or is being a troll your hobby, if it is the latter you are very sad infact you are sad period, as for the "us" comment you contribute nothing to this forum and are as welcome as thrush so why don't you tidy up your bed-sit then go and get some fresh air
Folkestone Saint wrote:Oh look it's the Folkstone F-witt, You spoil us with your morning musings regarding the Saints. Aren’t we lucky! Zzzzzzzzzz. Back into your little hole now!
saint Compo wrote:The smaller clubs like ourselves (with a very large catchment area to grow) will have to have good youth systems in place with strong get out/sell on clauses, then when a gem such as shaw comes along we keep them for longer or sell at massive fee's
Surely a total wage cap (i.e. on the squad of players in aggregate) as a percentage of revenues would disadvantage the smaller clubs. The big clubs' annual income (including sale of merchandise at home and abroad) is many, many times greater than Saints'.
Such a wage bill limit would severely restrict the signing of star players by a club (like Saints) which is trying through investor funds to raise itself to the heights of the top clubs.
What it would lead to, however, on a positive note is the need for owners to invest by way of share capital rather than interest bearing loans. Maybe Cortese is happy with that.
COYR
Strasbourg Saint
says...
12:23pm Wed 19 Dec 12
costa gaz wrote:1. So, are Costa Gaz and Costa Baz two different people? As I said a week or two ago, I'm confused. Mixing up Baz and Gaz doesn't amuse me at all, it's an easy mistake to make given the similarity of the names and styles.
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Not sure why you call me Baz, I suppose it must amuse you.
costa gaz wrote:Well, that's contributed to the debate!
saint Compo wrote:Saint compo, you are wasting your time trying to discuss anything thing to do with the subject of the article.
Surely a total wage cap (i.e. on the squad of players in aggregate) as a percentage of revenues would disadvantage the smaller clubs. The big clubs' annual income (including sale of merchandise at home and abroad) is many, many times greater than Saints'.
Such a wage bill limit would severely restrict the signing of star players by a club (like Saints) which is trying through investor funds to raise itself to the heights of the top clubs.
What it would lead to, however, on a positive note is the need for owners to invest by way of share capital rather than interest bearing loans. Maybe Cortese is happy with that.
COYR
This board has been completely ruined by a dozen or so kn0bs who think that their witless comments are of some sort of interest to anyone.
It is now the same names that pop up post after post spouting the same drivel day after day.
If they only realised how boring they all sound.
They'll meet up in the Joshua Tree on Sat to discuss the weeks comments over a couple of pints.
Can imagine that pub on a Saturday full of the echo board dullards. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
...........
Instead of throwing your dummy out the pram, Baz, why not simply ignore those you mention and share your thoughts on the subject - thus, restoring the balance of the thread towards, as you put it, 'discussing something to do with the subject of the article.'
I think one of the other comedians called me it some time ago and you, as usual, followed suit.
Restore the balance??? most posters have left this board because of you lot and your pompey chums.
2. I very rarely respond to skates or WUMs on here. So, the suggestion (even if true) that 'most posters have left this board because of YOU LOT and YOUR pompey chums' is being directed at the wrong person.
Yes, I do comment on the situation at PFC. I don't like PFC (the club) because of the way it has (mis)conducted its business over the years. That has nothing to do with the rivalry, which I like and which - PFC or no PFC - will continue (with decent banter and, alas, abuse) between Saints fans and Pompey fans.
Now, what about football spending? Do you have an opinion?
scooter75
says...
12:52pm Wed 19 Dec 12
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Meet you in the josh as usual stras with the rest of the echo boys.
costa gaz wrote:1. So, are Costa Gaz and Costa Baz two different people? As I said a week or two ago, I'm confused. Mixing up Baz and Gaz doesn't amuse me at all, it's an easy mistake to make given the similarity of the names and styles.
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Not sure why you call me Baz, I suppose it must amuse you.
costa gaz wrote:Well, that's contributed to the debate!
saint Compo wrote:Saint compo, you are wasting your time trying to discuss anything thing to do with the subject of the article.
Surely a total wage cap (i.e. on the squad of players in aggregate) as a percentage of revenues would disadvantage the smaller clubs. The big clubs' annual income (including sale of merchandise at home and abroad) is many, many times greater than Saints'.
Such a wage bill limit would severely restrict the signing of star players by a club (like Saints) which is trying through investor funds to raise itself to the heights of the top clubs.
What it would lead to, however, on a positive note is the need for owners to invest by way of share capital rather than interest bearing loans. Maybe Cortese is happy with that.
COYR
This board has been completely ruined by a dozen or so kn0bs who think that their witless comments are of some sort of interest to anyone.
It is now the same names that pop up post after post spouting the same drivel day after day.
If they only realised how boring they all sound.
They'll meet up in the Joshua Tree on Sat to discuss the weeks comments over a couple of pints.
Can imagine that pub on a Saturday full of the echo board dullards. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
...........
Instead of throwing your dummy out the pram, Baz, why not simply ignore those you mention and share your thoughts on the subject - thus, restoring the balance of the thread towards, as you put it, 'discussing something to do with the subject of the article.'
I think one of the other comedians called me it some time ago and you, as usual, followed suit.
Restore the balance??? most posters have left this board because of you lot and your pompey chums.
2. I very rarely respond to skates or WUMs on here. So, the suggestion (even if true) that 'most posters have left this board because of YOU LOT and YOUR pompey chums' is being directed at the wrong person.
Yes, I do comment on the situation at PFC. I don't like PFC (the club) because of the way it has (mis)conducted its business over the years. That has nothing to do with the rivalry, which I like and which - PFC or no PFC - will continue (with decent banter and, alas, abuse) between Saints fans and Pompey fans.
Now, what about football spending? Do you have an opinion?
costa gaz
says...
2:03pm Wed 19 Dec 12
scooter75 wrote:Point1; Liar
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Meet you in the josh as usual stras with the rest of the echo boys.
costa gaz wrote:1. So, are Costa Gaz and Costa Baz two different people? As I said a week or two ago, I'm confused. Mixing up Baz and Gaz doesn't amuse me at all, it's an easy mistake to make given the similarity of the names and styles.
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Not sure why you call me Baz, I suppose it must amuse you.
costa gaz wrote:Well, that's contributed to the debate!
saint Compo wrote:Saint compo, you are wasting your time trying to discuss anything thing to do with the subject of the article.
Surely a total wage cap (i.e. on the squad of players in aggregate) as a percentage of revenues would disadvantage the smaller clubs. The big clubs' annual income (including sale of merchandise at home and abroad) is many, many times greater than Saints'.
Such a wage bill limit would severely restrict the signing of star players by a club (like Saints) which is trying through investor funds to raise itself to the heights of the top clubs.
What it would lead to, however, on a positive note is the need for owners to invest by way of share capital rather than interest bearing loans. Maybe Cortese is happy with that.
COYR
This board has been completely ruined by a dozen or so kn0bs who think that their witless comments are of some sort of interest to anyone.
It is now the same names that pop up post after post spouting the same drivel day after day.
If they only realised how boring they all sound.
They'll meet up in the Joshua Tree on Sat to discuss the weeks comments over a couple of pints.
Can imagine that pub on a Saturday full of the echo board dullards. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
...........
Instead of throwing your dummy out the pram, Baz, why not simply ignore those you mention and share your thoughts on the subject - thus, restoring the balance of the thread towards, as you put it, 'discussing something to do with the subject of the article.'
I think one of the other comedians called me it some time ago and you, as usual, followed suit.
Restore the balance??? most posters have left this board because of you lot and your pompey chums.
2. I very rarely respond to skates or WUMs on here. So, the suggestion (even if true) that 'most posters have left this board because of YOU LOT and YOUR pompey chums' is being directed at the wrong person.
Yes, I do comment on the situation at PFC. I don't like PFC (the club) because of the way it has (mis)conducted its business over the years. That has nothing to do with the rivalry, which I like and which - PFC or no PFC - will continue (with decent banter and, alas, abuse) between Saints fans and Pompey fans.
Now, what about football spending? Do you have an opinion?
Point 2 ; Liar
point 3; so what zzzzzzzzzz.....
Strasbourg Saint
says...
8:36pm Wed 19 Dec 12
costa gaz wrote:With no reason, and completely inaccurately, you call me a liar.
scooter75 wrote:Point1; Liar
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Meet you in the josh as usual stras with the rest of the echo boys.
costa gaz wrote:1. So, are Costa Gaz and Costa Baz two different people? As I said a week or two ago, I'm confused. Mixing up Baz and Gaz doesn't amuse me at all, it's an easy mistake to make given the similarity of the names and styles.
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Not sure why you call me Baz, I suppose it must amuse you.
costa gaz wrote:Well, that's contributed to the debate!
saint Compo wrote:Saint compo, you are wasting your time trying to discuss anything thing to do with the subject of the article.
Surely a total wage cap (i.e. on the squad of players in aggregate) as a percentage of revenues would disadvantage the smaller clubs. The big clubs' annual income (including sale of merchandise at home and abroad) is many, many times greater than Saints'.
Such a wage bill limit would severely restrict the signing of star players by a club (like Saints) which is trying through investor funds to raise itself to the heights of the top clubs.
What it would lead to, however, on a positive note is the need for owners to invest by way of share capital rather than interest bearing loans. Maybe Cortese is happy with that.
COYR
This board has been completely ruined by a dozen or so kn0bs who think that their witless comments are of some sort of interest to anyone.
It is now the same names that pop up post after post spouting the same drivel day after day.
If they only realised how boring they all sound.
They'll meet up in the Joshua Tree on Sat to discuss the weeks comments over a couple of pints.
Can imagine that pub on a Saturday full of the echo board dullards. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
...........
Instead of throwing your dummy out the pram, Baz, why not simply ignore those you mention and share your thoughts on the subject - thus, restoring the balance of the thread towards, as you put it, 'discussing something to do with the subject of the article.'
I think one of the other comedians called me it some time ago and you, as usual, followed suit.
Restore the balance??? most posters have left this board because of you lot and your pompey chums.
2. I very rarely respond to skates or WUMs on here. So, the suggestion (even if true) that 'most posters have left this board because of YOU LOT and YOUR pompey chums' is being directed at the wrong person.
Yes, I do comment on the situation at PFC. I don't like PFC (the club) because of the way it has (mis)conducted its business over the years. That has nothing to do with the rivalry, which I like and which - PFC or no PFC - will continue (with decent banter and, alas, abuse) between Saints fans and Pompey fans.
Now, what about football spending? Do you have an opinion?
Point 2 ; Liar
point 3; so what zzzzzzzzzz.....
1. I really did (maybe still do) think Gaz and Baz are one and the same Costa.
2. If you can find 20 threads over the past year on which I've responded at least twice to one of the usual WUMs/skates (other than to have a genuine discussion with, say Pompey in Spain or Morning Glory) I'd be amazed.
3. There was no point three, but if what you don't care about is the topic in question then why make your original angry comments?
Maybe the one who posts as Costa Baz isn't you and you're just faking his name to add to your wumongous wumability, I don't know.
I had you down for someone I tended to disagree with and got bored with for constantly pumping out the same negative stuff.
I was obviosuly wrong. So, well done, I've been had, you're just another WUM in disguise and, like scooter and kent, require no further interaction with genuine posters on here.
mg2104 says...
3:37pm Tue 18 Dec 12