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Stoke 3 Saints 3
12:24pm Saturday 29th December 2012 in Sport
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- Saints back in relegation zone after thrilling draw
- Rickie Lambert opened scoring in early stages
- Kenwyne Jones equalised against old club.
- Jay Rodriguez and Andy Wilkinson og had made it 3-1 at half-time
- Matthew Upson and Cameron Jerome goals rescue a point for Stoke
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4:58pm
Saints drop to 18th after today's results. Reaction to follow on the website later...
4:54pm
FULL-TIME: Stoke 3 Saints 3
4:53pm
GOAL: Stoke 3 Saints 3 (Cameron Jerome 90): Jerome unleashes a stunning strike from 25 yards that cannons in off the underside of the bar. Astonishing strike.
4:32pm
RED CARD (71 mins): Stoke are reduced to ten men after Steven Nzonzi is shown a red card for a late tackle on Jack Cork.
4:29pm
PENALTY APPEAL (68 mins): Saints are very fortunate to escape after Jose Fonte appears to handle in the area. Mark Clattenburg waves play on, however.
4:27pm
GOAL Stoke 2 Saints 3 (Upson 67): Saints pay for Guly's miss, as Upson sweeps home after Saints fail to clear a corner.
4:26pm
CHANCE (66 mins): Lambert slips in Rodriguez, but Begovic saves from him with his feet. The ball drops to Guly, who has an open goal, but he lashes his shot wide.
4:23pm
CHANCE (63 mins): Jay Rodriguez gets to Jack Cork's through ball before Asmir Begovic. He goes round the Stoke keeper, but has his shot blocked by Robert Huth.
3:50pm
HALF-TIME: Stoke 1 Saints 3
3:42pm
Apologies for the delay in updates. Stoke's notoriously poor internet access has struck.
3:41pm
GOAL: Stoke 1 Saints 3 (Wilkinson og 36): Puncheon's cross from the right is nodded down by Lambert and turned into his own net by Wilkinson under pressure from Rodriguez.
3:40pm
GOAL: Stoke 1 Saints 2 (Jay Rodriguez 24): Rickie Lambert puts in a cross from the right. Robert Huth stretches out a leg to try and clear it, but diverts the ball against the bar. The rebound falls kindly to Jay Rodriguez, who gets his reward for following in and converts from close range.
3:19pm
GOAL: Stoke 1 Saints 1 (Kenwyne Jones 16): Ryan Shotton nutmegs Luke Shaw and delivers a low ball that Kenwyne Jones sublimely backheels/flicks across goal to equalise against his former club.
3:15pm
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3:14pm
CHANCE (12 mins): Kenwyne Jones should have equalised against his former club almost immediately, as Steven Nzonzi's deflected shot gifts him the ball six yards out, but he scuffs his effort wide as Kelvin Davis races from his goal to charge him down.
3:13pm
GOAL: Stoke 0 Saints 1 (Lambert 10): Guly do Prado gets the ball on the left and delivers a beautiful in-swinging cross to the far post, which Rickie Lambert races in to side-foot home.
2:57pm
The teams are out here at the Britannia Stadium. Saints in their yellow strip this afternoon. Kick-off just a few moments away now. We will have updates here for you throughout the match.
2:38pm
Stoke manager Tony Pulis oversaw a 3-1 Boxing Day victory over Liverpool at the Britannia Stadium, but believes today’s fixture against Saints could be an even harder prospect:
In many respects the Southampton game will be the toughest of the two because of the raised expectations. Southampton are giving it a good go and they will be a big challenge for us, especially if we are not up for the game. The other night was tremendous for everyone, and the players deserved their praise for the wonderful effort they put in. But that is gone and now we have to raise ourselves for another challenge.
Tony Pulis
2:35pm
I remember playing against Stoke when Tony was in charge when we were at Scunthorpe. They’ve come a long way, they’ve stabilised in the Premier League, they know what they’re about, they work hard, but they can play football as well. People have got this stigma that maybe it’s a long ball game. It’s effective football, but they do play some good football as well. They’re on a good run of form. It’s a game we should look forward to, not be fearful of. The Britannia Stadium is notoriously very loud, but we’ve got to go there full of confidence ourselves. We’ve got to go there with belief. They don’t concede that many goals, so we’ve got to be bright to give ourselves opportunities to score goals as well.
Saints manager Nigel Adkins
2:26pm
2:25pm
Apologies for the lack of build-up on today's blog. Heavy traffic on the way to Stoke meant a late arrival at the ground.
2:25pm
Three changes for Saints this afternoon. Nathaniel Clyne misses out, meaning Jos Hooiveld is drafted into the back four, with Maya Yoshida going into the right back position. Guly do Prado comes in for Gaston Ramirez on the left of midfield, while Jay Rodriguez replaces Steven Davis and is likely to partner Rickie Lambert in attack.
2:23pm
THE LINE-UPS:
STOKE: Begovic, Shotton, Huth, Upson, Wilkinson, Kightly, Whelan, Nzonzi, Etherington, Walters, Jones.
Subs: Sorensen, Palacios, Owen, Adam, Whitehead, Crouch, Jerome.
SAINTS: Davis; Yoshida, Fonte, Hooiveld, Shaw; Puncheon, Cork, Schneiderlin, Guly; Rodriguez, Lambert.
Subs: Boruc, Richardson, Fox, S Davis, De Ridder, Ramirez, Mayuka.
Referee: M Clattenburg.
12:47pm
Stoke have defenders Ryan Shawcross and Geoff Cameron suspended which means likely calls ups for Matthew Upson and Ryan Shotton.
12:37pm
Adam Lallana remains out injured but otherwise Nigel Adkins is expected to have a fully fit squad to choose from.
12:33pm
Welcome to the Daily Echo's coverage of Stoke v Saints.
Saints are hoping to build on their point at Fulham but Maya Yoshida admits it will be tough against a bouyant Stoke side who are yet to lose at home this season. "It will be a really, really tough game I think," the Japan international said. "Stoke have not lost a home game this season. "They have many, many tall guys so it will be a more physical game. "We have to give away less free-kicks, corner kicks and deep throw-ins otherwise they will put many, many long balls in the box. We have to think about this. "Of course every time I want to win a game but this time it would be really nice because they haven't lost a home game (for a long time)."
Comments(223)
mack chinnon
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1:01pm Sat 29 Dec 12
in.
batesieboy
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1:18pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tirau Dan
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1:59pm Sat 29 Dec 12
and that Pullis Bloke.
Yee Ha COYR
Strasbourg Saint
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2:02pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Of course, being Portugal, plans could change at any time :(
Strasbourg Saint
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2:04pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tirau Dan wrote:Morning Dan, I wonder what time you AWOKE!
Cmon Saints - no joke let's poke Stoke
and that Pullis Bloke.
Yee Ha COYR
Rising_Son
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2:06pm Sat 29 Dec 12
up saints
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2:09pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tirau Dan
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2:10pm Sat 29 Dec 12
K. Davis, Yoshida, Fonte (c), Hooiveld, Shaw, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Cork, Guly, Rodriguez, Lambert.
OSPREYSAINT
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2:10pm Sat 29 Dec 12
up saints
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2:13pm Sat 29 Dec 12
up saints wrote:forget that quote
how the hell is boruc in goal hope iam proved wrong
Rising_Son
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2:13pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Strasbourg Saint
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2:16pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tirau Dan wrote:Strange if right! No one thinks Jay and Rickie work well together.
From twitter:
K. Davis, Yoshida, Fonte (c), Hooiveld, Shaw, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Cork, Guly, Rodriguez, Lambert.
I just hope it's Jay on the left and Guly behind Rickie. Either way, I'd have preferred Fox in front of Shaw today.
As for the defence, is that Jos or Yosh at RB. If no Clyne, why no Richardson? Are both injured?
Of course, it'll work a treat and doubters like me will be proved wrong. Here's hoping .....
arm chair fan
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2:18pm Sat 29 Dec 12
slugger
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2:20pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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2:22pm Sat 29 Dec 12
InCortesewetrust
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2:23pm Sat 29 Dec 12
up saints
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2:24pm Sat 29 Dec 12
arm chair fan
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2:25pm Sat 29 Dec 12
slugger wrote:and height for crouch or jones, we know there will be high crosses to deal with,
Going for a bit more muscle at the back , interested to see the bench .
slugger
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2:26pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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2:30pm Sat 29 Dec 12
up saints wrote:I guess it is horses for courses, we need Rambo to show his skills against Arsenal, not to pick up a fine selection of bruises today.
well guly starting and 12mil on the bench does this guly is worth 13 mi or is it just called rotation
arm chair fan
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2:33pm Sat 29 Dec 12
up saints wrote:think feeling maybe guly will not be kicked out of game os easily, save the trickes for arsenal, this may not be a nice place to be! hope it workes.
well guly starting and 12mil on the bench does this guly is worth 13 mi or is it just called rotation
Rising_Son
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2:33pm Sat 29 Dec 12
ghk230473
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2:35pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Ramirez on the bench? Surely play your best players.
arm chair fan
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2:37pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Littleton-Saint
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2:38pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Rising_Son
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2:38pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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2:39pm Sat 29 Dec 12
ghk230473 wrote:I agree it doesn't look balanced, just hope it works, would be happy to be proved wrong for being so pessimistic, anything from this game will be a massive bonus.
Apologies but that line up doesn't fill me with any confidence!
Ramirez on the bench? Surely play your best players.
Tirau Dan
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2:40pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Strasbourg Saint wrote:No sleep yet for me.. ko at 4am in NZ.
Tirau Dan wrote:Strange if right! No one thinks Jay and Rickie work well together.
From twitter:
K. Davis, Yoshida, Fonte (c), Hooiveld, Shaw, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Cork, Guly, Rodriguez, Lambert.
I just hope it's Jay on the left and Guly behind Rickie. Either way, I'd have preferred Fox in front of Shaw today.
As for the defence, is that Jos or Yosh at RB. If no Clyne, why no Richardson? Are both injured?
Of course, it'll work a treat and doubters like me will be proved wrong. Here's hoping .....
Shame Nat Clyne got a knock on Boxing Day. Yoshi expected RB with Jos next to Jose. I wish em luck especially Jayrod.. Would love a Brace to lift his cockiness... he is well capable and due some scoring action.
I'm most worried about Jos.. if he gives away a pen with a clumsy effort from behind I'd want him gone! No pressure of anything lol I hope he nods a couple in!
Rising_Son
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2:42pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Littleton-Saint wrote:Are you suggesting that he is planning to lose on purpose?
Yoshida is a nightmare at right back as evidenced on video. I can only assume that Clyne and Richardson are injured. Guly for Ramirez is another annoying experiment. I hope we win, but Adkins would appear to be doing his best to trash things again, imo.
Littleton-Saint
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2:44pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Rising_Son wrote:Good comment which would explain why Rambo's on the bench - I guess I prefer pretty football, even in the mud. If Adkins gets something from the game, I'll gladly admit that he was right, but I fear that he's made too many changes.
I have a feeling we'll be rather direct in our play today. Maybe the conditions don't suit pretty football.
Norwegian Saint
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2:44pm Sat 29 Dec 12
So... What's that team all about!?
I hope I am wrong but J-Rod is the biggest waste of money in years!
Guly in front of the Ram?!
Oh dear... I do not feel confident... I would take a draw right now but can't even see us getting that with this team.
Although I still hope I am wrong...
Come on you Saints!!!!!
mack chinnon
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2:45pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tirau Dan wrote:I hope Jos does well today.
Strasbourg Saint wrote:No sleep yet for me.. ko at 4am in NZ.
Tirau Dan wrote:Strange if right! No one thinks Jay and Rickie work well together.
From twitter:
K. Davis, Yoshida, Fonte (c), Hooiveld, Shaw, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Cork, Guly, Rodriguez, Lambert.
I just hope it's Jay on the left and Guly behind Rickie. Either way, I'd have preferred Fox in front of Shaw today.
As for the defence, is that Jos or Yosh at RB. If no Clyne, why no Richardson? Are both injured?
Of course, it'll work a treat and doubters like me will be proved wrong. Here's hoping .....
Shame Nat Clyne got a knock on Boxing Day. Yoshi expected RB with Jos next to Jose. I wish em luck especially Jayrod.. Would love a Brace to lift his cockiness... he is well capable and due some scoring action.
I'm most worried about Jos.. if he gives away a pen with a clumsy effort from behind I'd want him gone! No pressure of anything lol I hope he nods a couple in!
up saints
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2:46pm Sat 29 Dec 12
mack chinnon
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2:49pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Norwegian Saint wrote:You,ve been a Saint to long.
Signing in from another train journey through Norway.
So... What's that team all about!?
I hope I am wrong but J-Rod is the biggest waste of money in years!
Guly in front of the Ram?!
Oh dear... I do not feel confident... I would take a draw right now but can't even see us getting that with this team.
Although I still hope I am wrong...
Come on you Saints!!!!!
Rising_Son
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2:55pm Sat 29 Dec 12
mack chinnon wrote:I hope they all do well. I want us to win this one. COYR.
Tirau Dan wrote:I hope Jos does well today.
Strasbourg Saint wrote:No sleep yet for me.. ko at 4am in NZ.
Tirau Dan wrote:Strange if right! No one thinks Jay and Rickie work well together.
From twitter:
K. Davis, Yoshida, Fonte (c), Hooiveld, Shaw, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Cork, Guly, Rodriguez, Lambert.
I just hope it's Jay on the left and Guly behind Rickie. Either way, I'd have preferred Fox in front of Shaw today.
As for the defence, is that Jos or Yosh at RB. If no Clyne, why no Richardson? Are both injured?
Of course, it'll work a treat and doubters like me will be proved wrong. Here's hoping .....
Shame Nat Clyne got a knock on Boxing Day. Yoshi expected RB with Jos next to Jose. I wish em luck especially Jayrod.. Would love a Brace to lift his cockiness... he is well capable and due some scoring action.
I'm most worried about Jos.. if he gives away a pen with a clumsy effort from behind I'd want him gone! No pressure of anything lol I hope he nods a couple in!
arm chair fan
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2:56pm Sat 29 Dec 12
up saints wrote:jwp's time will come, the one i dont get is lee, is he injured again or just not fit ? if not why not have him on the bench. I think he would be more of an impact sub than most.
paper talk de ridder had a moan in the week getting dropped play me or sale me back on the bench today jwp should do the same
Tirau Dan
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2:57pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Cmon you Yellows... I love the Saints Brasil Strip Mr Do Prado should do us proud in those colours.
Littleton-Saint
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2:59pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Rising_Son wrote:I just feel that NA makes non-sensical decisions at times which costs us points. We chucked the Liverpool game by being far too respectful and negative. We dropped two points against Fulham, imo. I want to see us attacking for 90 mins against every team we play. We should show no respect for any other team.
Littleton-Saint wrote:Are you suggesting that he is planning to lose on purpose?
Yoshida is a nightmare at right back as evidenced on video. I can only assume that Clyne and Richardson are injured. Guly for Ramirez is another annoying experiment. I hope we win, but Adkins would appear to be doing his best to trash things again, imo.
OSPREYSAINT
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3:01pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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3:02pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Littleton-Saint wrote:What you want and what you get isn't always within our control.
Rising_Son wrote:I just feel that NA makes non-sensical decisions at times which costs us points. We chucked the Liverpool game by being far too respectful and negative. We dropped two points against Fulham, imo. I want to see us attacking for 90 mins against every team we play. We should show no respect for any other team.
Littleton-Saint wrote:Are you suggesting that he is planning to lose on purpose?
Yoshida is a nightmare at right back as evidenced on video. I can only assume that Clyne and Richardson are injured. Guly for Ramirez is another annoying experiment. I hope we win, but Adkins would appear to be doing his best to trash things again, imo.
Norwegian Saint
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3:03pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Prediction... Heart says a 2-1 win... Head says a 2-1 loss.
Come on you Saaaaaints!!!
OSPREYSAINT
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3:04pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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OSPREYSAINT
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3:09pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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3:10pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tirau Dan
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3:10pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Littleton-Saint
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3:11pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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3:13pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Littleton-Saint
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3:14pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Same here Osprey....
The BBC Sport web site is on a go slow today. I am listening to Solent and watching Sky.
OSPREYSAINT
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3:15pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Littleton-Saint
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3:15pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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3:17pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Norwegian Saint
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3:17pm Sat 29 Dec 12
With help from Guly ;-)
Tirau Dan
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3:18pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Little Hitler
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3:19pm Sat 29 Dec 12
What is it with us an ex players, it happens every game FFS!
Rant over!
roverme
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3:23pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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3:23pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tirau Dan
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3:24pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Little Hitler
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3:25pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tirau Dan
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3:31pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Punch is on fire but should pass once in a while
Tirau Dan
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3:37pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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3:37pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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3:40pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Saintsteve7
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3:40pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Strasbourg Saint
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3:40pm Sat 29 Dec 12
We stopped along the way to the airport. The girls are happy to do a bit of shopping in the sales, so I'm in one of those eating areas in the middle of a big shopping mall watching Norwich/Man City on TV and the important match on a live stream.
I said Rickie and Jay couldn't work up front together didn't I ;)
Little Hitler
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3:43pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:TROLLOLLOL!
Yeovil 2 up
OSPREYSAINT
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3:48pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tirau Dan
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3:48pm Sat 29 Dec 12
ghk230473
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3:49pm Sat 29 Dec 12
arm chair fan
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3:50pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Strasbourg Saint
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3:51pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Not sure what the local shoppers thought when I screamed 'YES' when the third went in, though!
Strasbourg Saint
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3:54pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Well, it just shows what we know, doesn't it? Had any of us been the manager, we'd be gettting sacked in the morning. Seems Nigel DOES know what he's doing after all.
ghk230473 wrote:I agree it doesn't look balanced, just hope it works, would be happy to be proved wrong for being so pessimistic, anything from this game will be a massive bonus.
Apologies but that line up doesn't fill me with any confidence!
Ramirez on the bench? Surely play your best players.
Bring back Branfoot
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3:57pm Sat 29 Dec 12
up saints
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3:58pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Little Hitler
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3:59pm Sat 29 Dec 12
up saints
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3:59pm Sat 29 Dec 12
up saints wrote:direct
in shock should play derect route more often expect avalanche second half well done all and guly
skiptonsaint
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3:59pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Keep it tight now
warrens 76
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4:00pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Little Hitler wrote:Yes Kunt141 were are you, snivelling $hit.
Ricky Lambert bossing the Stoke thugs so far. Not bad for a "waddling lump" huh Kunt141?
Rising_Son
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4:00pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Norwegian Saint
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4:01pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Just got a 3G connection for a few mins...
Wow!!!
warrens 76
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4:02pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Yes, yes you did...watching in Montreux surrounded by snow and cheese..
Get in!
We stopped along the way to the airport. The girls are happy to do a bit of shopping in the sales, so I'm in one of those eating areas in the middle of a big shopping mall watching Norwich/Man City on TV and the important match on a live stream.
I said Rickie and Jay couldn't work up front together didn't I ;)
Bring back Branfoot
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4:02pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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DisplacedFan
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4:06pm Sat 29 Dec 12
warrens 76 wrote:He's licking his.....!
Little Hitler wrote:Yes Kunt141 were are you, snivelling $hit.
Ricky Lambert bossing the Stoke thugs so far. Not bad for a "waddling lump" huh Kunt141?
OSPREYSAINT
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4:07pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Little Hitler wrote:Before we start the gloating let us see the game out?
Ricky Lambert bossing the Stoke thugs so far. Not bad for a "waddling lump" huh Kunt141?
Little Hitler
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4:14pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Why? The result won't change the fact that he's a moron who's completely wrong!
Little Hitler wrote:Before we start the gloating let us see the game out?
Ricky Lambert bossing the Stoke thugs so far. Not bad for a "waddling lump" huh Kunt141?
Tirau Dan
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4:14pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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4:15pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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OSPREYSAINT
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4:16pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Little Hitler
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4:17pm Sat 29 Dec 12
A win is looking essential!
Tirau Dan
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4:22pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Norwegian Saint wrote:It was a cracker of a 1st half.. Saints Alive!!!!!
Whaaaaaat the heck?!
Just got a 3G connection for a few mins...
Wow!!!
2nd is a tighter contest so far.. bit scrappy as tensions kick in. Expect changes soon. After a clash of 2 stoke defenders noggins with spilt claret expect 5 or 6 mins added on.
I'm enjoying it..
OSPREYSAINT
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OSPREYSAINT
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Tirau Dan
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4:25pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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4:28pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Little Hitler
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4:28pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Come on Guly, grab the 4th!
Tirau Dan
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4:30pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tirau Dan
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4:34pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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4:35pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Norwegian Saint
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4:36pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Hold on Saints, can only get on the Internet every 10-15 mins.... Arghhhh!
Come on you Saaaaaaints!!!
Strasbourg Saint
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4:36pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Still, it's 3-4 in the Norwich - Man City match.
Hopless goalkeeping. Just as well neither of the keepers plays for England.....
...... wait a minute! Well, at least they don't play for Saints.
OSPREYSAINT
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4:37pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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Strasbourg Saint
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4:40pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Norwegian Saint
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4:40pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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OSPREYSAINT
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Little Hitler
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4:44pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Norwegian Saint wrote:I'm hoping just for once it doesn't happen!
Oh no... Not Crouch... Ya just know what happens next...
OSPREYSAINT
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4:44pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Pogle
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4:46pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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Tirau Dan
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4:48pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:arrrrrgh no.... what a cracking goal but heck 7mins
Offside given phew!
Strasbourg Saint
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4:49pm Sat 29 Dec 12
7mins of ET!!!!
Little Hitler
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4:50pm Sat 29 Dec 12
I just couldn't see us holding on unfortunately :-(
Hopefully they'll be happy with a point. We would have snapped that up at 15:00!
OSPREYSAINT
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4:51pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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Norwegian Saint
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4:53pm Sat 29 Dec 12
That hurts...
Started to get the hell of a beating quote ready!
Little Hitler
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4:53pm Sat 29 Dec 12
FFS!
OSPREYSAINT
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4:55pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tony Robertson
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4:55pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Strasbourg Saint
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4:57pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Anyone else have that strange feeling I had when the sending off happened? I wondered then if it might just help Stoke focus. After they went down to 10 we really lost the plot.
Well, the airport beckons.
Night all.
Tirau Dan
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4:58pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Well played Saints.
OSPREYSAINT
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OSPREYSAINT
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5:00pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Fatty x Ford Worker
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5:00pm Sat 29 Dec 12
slugger
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5:01pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tony Robertson wrote:3-3 was a draw last time i looked .
All season long, whenever we've been in the lead, Adkins takes off our most effective player, and tries to contain the opposition. He hasn't got a clue. How to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Tony Robertson
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5:02pm Sat 29 Dec 12
circa 66 saint
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5:02pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tirau Dan wrote:sums it up
cracker of a game.. fair do's we had some ref luck this time around, played some great football.. def not a blame sesh required.. very unlucky not to get the win but very happy with a point. Saints fans were brilliant!
Well played Saints.
Rising_Son
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5:04pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tony Robertson wrote:I don't think that was the problem. We were barely holding on as it was.
All season long, whenever we've been in the lead, Adkins takes off our most effective player, and tries to contain the opposition. He hasn't got a clue. How to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
slugger
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5:04pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tony Robertson
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5:05pm Sat 29 Dec 12
mack chinnon
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5:06pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT
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5:07pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Velleity
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5:08pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tony Robertson wrote:You're right, two promotions in two seasons just show that he's got NO idea, whereas you listening to the game in your front room know better.
2 goals ahead of ten men - seems like a defeat to me. We simply cannot afford to keep throwing away points. Adkins is simply not good enough.
Littleton-Saint
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5:09pm Sat 29 Dec 12
abbiscuits
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5:09pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Fatty x Ford Worker
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5:09pm Sat 29 Dec 12
circa 66 saint
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5:10pm Sat 29 Dec 12
mack chinnon wrote:pretty much the same as every team that plays at farton krap
How did Yeovil do?
easy day
Littleton-Saint
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5:11pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Norwegian Saint
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5:11pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Very sad it wasn't a win!
Rising_Son
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5:11pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tony Robertson wrote:Yes, but it wasn't the last game of the season, so it doesn't mean that much yet.
Doesn't matter how you try to dress it up, we're back in the drop-zone.
I feel Stoke are a very underrated team. They hoof the ball up but play some pretty decent stuff when they get it there. I'm disappointed we let a 3-1 lead slip but I would've been happy with a point from this match before it started.
upwherewebelong
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5:12pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tirau Dan
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5:12pm Sat 29 Dec 12
circa 66 saint wrote:3 at Britannia is more than the rest of the league scored there all season. Stoke played out of their skins in the second.. we should smile.. and The Manglewurzels mangled the skates hahaha. Smile.
Tirau Dan wrote:sums it up
cracker of a game.. fair do's we had some ref luck this time around, played some great football.. def not a blame sesh required.. very unlucky not to get the win but very happy with a point. Saints fans were brilliant!
Well played Saints.
slugger
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5:12pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tony Robertson wrote:It may feel like a defeat but it wasn't !
2 goals ahead of ten men - seems like a defeat to me. We simply cannot afford to keep throwing away points. Adkins is simply not good enough.
OSPREYSAINT
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5:12pm Sat 29 Dec 12
circa 66 saint wrote:With the -10 that makes them rock bottom, but why are we even talking about them? We were a few minutes from Utopia.
mack chinnon wrote:pretty much the same as every team that plays at farton krap
How did Yeovil do?
easy day
Rising_Son
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5:13pm Sat 29 Dec 12
circa 66 saint wrote:No. There's a team that plays in blue that seldom wins there.
mack chinnon wrote:pretty much the same as every team that plays at farton krap
How did Yeovil do?
easy day
Velleity
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5:14pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Littleton-Saint wrote:I was saying this at the end of last season: Sharp is simply not quick enough for the Premiership.
Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks.
I don't care if he ends up as Forest's top scorer; that's in the Championship. He'd not even have been on the bench by now if he was still with us.
abbiscuits
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5:16pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Velleity
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5:16pm Sat 29 Dec 12
upwherewebelong wrote:Do you really suspect that he doesn't know?
For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions
slugger
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5:16pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Rising_Son
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5:19pm Sat 29 Dec 12
upwherewebelong wrote:Clyne was injured. What were the other options?
For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions
Thornhill Saint
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5:23pm Sat 29 Dec 12
That said: One for Adkins to analyse: Why Stoke were able to absolutely terrify us with 10 men when we were playing 5 at the back?
On the positives, we scored three against the meanest defense on the league at home! We did not completely capitulate. Fonte was not done for his handball. Back in the bottom three but proud to support Saints!
OSPREYSAINT
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5:23pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Littleton-Saint wrote:Don't know for sure, but from the commentatory, it could have been JRod or Punch who had run out of steam to come off, probably it was the wrong choice, but nothing we can do about it now. Armchair management is easy, doing it in a cauldron like the Brittania is something else.
Hopefully, Adkins will learn not to go negative when the team's winning against ten men. His substitutions and tactics cost us two points, yet again. Taking Punch off was madness. The best form of defence is always attack.
Littleton-Saint
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5:23pm Sat 29 Dec 12
upwherewebelong wrote:Apparently, we've made a a €10m bid for Italian defender David Astori. We do need better quality and to off-load some of the dross we're carrying. Chucking away a two goal lead is unacceptable.
For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions
hedge end bob
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5:26pm Sat 29 Dec 12
SaintJD
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5:27pm Sat 29 Dec 12
At least the chairman can be in no doubt that the strength of our squad and particularly the defence needs strengthening.
I feared we'd be adrift at this point, but we are very much in the battle.
Now let's make some sensible defensive additions early and bed them in during January. That gives us a very good fighting chance, which is what we'd have asked for realistically at the beginning of the season.
St.Yorkie
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5:27pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Didn't really create much in the second half although Guly should have sealed it when knocking in a save from Lambert - perhaps Lambert should have scored?
Seems strange to be unbeaten over Christmas and yet drop into the bottom three...that additional 2-points would have been very welcome!!
Critical game coming up thick and fast over January - let's hope we can secure a few more wins!
warrens 76
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5:27pm Sat 29 Dec 12
...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....
...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.
I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...
...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...
...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...
...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.
...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.
Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...
...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
Rising_Son
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5:28pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Littleton-Saint wrote:And your source is?
upwherewebelong wrote:Apparently, we've made a a €10m bid for Italian defender David Astori. We do need better quality and to off-load some of the dross we're carrying. Chucking away a two goal lead is unacceptable.
For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions
OSPREYSAINT
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5:28pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Littleton-Saint wrote:Have a couple of Stellas and relax a bit, look forward to the Window opening up and we can have a post-fest of absolute b/s to revel in. Football, don't you just love it. Saints fans, heroes all, especially those that went today, I feel a bit unworthy. Onward upward, Arsenal you will have to be at your best now, we are beginning to get it together, long way from safety, but 17th will do for me whatever else happens. COYRs
upwherewebelong wrote:Apparently, we've made a a €10m bid for Italian defender David Astori. We do need better quality and to off-load some of the dross we're carrying. Chucking away a two goal lead is unacceptable.
For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions
SaintJD
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5:29pm Sat 29 Dec 12
St.Yorkie wrote:Out of interest, what was your prediction ahead of the game? Nailed on win for the Saints? Not sure many would have gone for that.
Must say a bit disappointed with that!
Didn't really create much in the second half although Guly should have sealed it when knocking in a save from Lambert - perhaps Lambert should have scored?
Seems strange to be unbeaten over Christmas and yet drop into the bottom three...that additional 2-points would have been very welcome!!
Critical game coming up thick and fast over January - let's hope we can secure a few more wins!
Jameski
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5:30pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Tony Robertson
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5:32pm Sat 29 Dec 12
J7junctionseven
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5:33pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Gutted we didn't get all three points after being 3-1 up but happy we can now all be positive in the fact that we can score against anyone and especially away from home.
We will be on the end of similar results that will be in our favour in games to come and we'll also surprise a few sides in the second half of the season.
We're slowly getting therein my honest opinion and there isn't an easy game in the PL which other sides will find out when they play us in the new year.
There are 4 or 5 sides in this league that seem to be struggling and not scoring as much as us.
i reckon we'll do ok in the run in as long as we can pick up home wins to go with the away draws along the way.
It's easy to dwell on negatives but let's not ignore the positives and forget where we were a couple of seasons ago.
It could be worse we could be losing at home to Crawley and Yeovil in two home games on the trot......
COYR FOADP FOB
Littleton-Saint
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5:33pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Velleity wrote:Sharp was our top scorer in pre-season. Presumably, he was part of the PremPlan when we bought him in January 2012 - either that or the strategy in buying him was incompetent . He lacks pace but makes up for it by being a Jimmy Greaves type of goal-scorer. I'd like to have seen him given a chance in the Prem..
Littleton-Saint wrote:I was saying this at the end of last season: Sharp is simply not quick enough for the Premiership.
Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks.
I don't care if he ends up as Forest's top scorer; that's in the Championship. He'd not even have been on the bench by now if he was still with us.
Rising_Son
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5:35pm Sat 29 Dec 12
warrens 76 wrote:You seem not too like Guly. Look on the bright side though. Without his cross, we wouldn't have scored our first goal.
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......
...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....
...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.
I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...
...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...
...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...
...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.
...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.
Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...
...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
slugger
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5:35pm Sat 29 Dec 12
warrens 76 wrote:Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......
...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....
...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.
I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...
...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...
...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...
...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.
...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.
Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...
...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
ghk230473
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5:37pm Sat 29 Dec 12
abbiscuits wrote:I'll 2nd that.
I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ?
hedge end bob
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5:39pm Sat 29 Dec 12
abbiscuits wrote:There is a little bit on NEWSNOW that we have put in a bid for an italain CB left footed ,, 8.8 million was quoted. Goes by the ame of DAVIDE ASTORI.
I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ?
Littleton-Saint
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5:39pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Rising_Son wrote:Football Italia's website
Littleton-Saint wrote:And your source is?
upwherewebelong wrote:Apparently, we've made a a €10m bid for Italian defender David Astori. We do need better quality and to off-load some of the dross we're carrying. Chucking away a two goal lead is unacceptable.
For anyone that was at the game did we look worse in defence for the return of Hooiveld ?? It seems to much of a coincidence to me that one of our worst defensive performances came with him back in the team. Before today we'd conceded 6 in 8 games now it's 9 in 9 Adkins in my opinion MUST WAKE UP and realise we need more quality in the back 5 positions
J7junctionseven
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5:39pm Sat 29 Dec 12
ghk230473 wrote:He'll do nicely if true.
abbiscuits wrote:I'll 2nd that.
I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ?
OSPREYSAINT
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5:40pm Sat 29 Dec 12
SaintJD wrote:I predicted a 3 0 loss! I was that pessimistic, I couldn't see how we had a hope, and when the team selection was announced I felt even worse, seems I underestimated NAs acumen of pulling a rabbit out of a hat. My intestines were doing somersaults at half time, luckily, when normal service, was resumed they settled down.
St.Yorkie wrote:Out of interest, what was your prediction ahead of the game? Nailed on win for the Saints? Not sure many would have gone for that.
Must say a bit disappointed with that!
Didn't really create much in the second half although Guly should have sealed it when knocking in a save from Lambert - perhaps Lambert should have scored?
Seems strange to be unbeaten over Christmas and yet drop into the bottom three...that additional 2-points would have been very welcome!!
Critical game coming up thick and fast over January - let's hope we can secure a few more wins!
warrens 76
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5:42pm Sat 29 Dec 12
slugger wrote:Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...
warrens 76 wrote:Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......
...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....
...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.
I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...
...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...
...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...
...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.
...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.
Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...
...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....
Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
slugger
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5:44pm Sat 29 Dec 12
warrens 76 wrote:I did read your post twice ......... they all tried but to single Guly out is unfair (imo)
slugger wrote:Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...
warrens 76 wrote:Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......
...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....
...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.
I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...
...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...
...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...
...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.
...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.
Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...
...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....
Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
kent141
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5:45pm Sat 29 Dec 12
ghk230473
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5:46pm Sat 29 Dec 12
slugger wrote:Gully is an enigma, worse Brazilian I've seen!
warrens 76 wrote:Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......
...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....
...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.
I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...
...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...
...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...
...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.
...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.
Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...
...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
Personally I wouldn't have played him, plenty of players I would have picked before him, jwp for 1.
Do not agree with booing him or any players that wear the saints badge though.
Would have taken the draw but it does feel like a defeat, maybe inexperience of this league to see the game out or did adkins not make sufficient changes? We tried something similar against man u.
warrens 76
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5:46pm Sat 29 Dec 12
hedge end bob wrote:Were is this new snow...need to put the winter tyres on.
abbiscuits wrote:There is a little bit on NEWSNOW that we have put in a bid for an italain CB left footed ,, 8.8 million was quoted. Goes by the ame of DAVIDE ASTORI.
I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ?
SaintJD
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5:46pm Sat 29 Dec 12
ghk230473 wrote:Sorry guys, we have no hope of signing Lescott, or Frank Lampard or anyone from a big club on big wages. I'd include Dawson in that. Great players, but others will come in and pay better fees and wages.
abbiscuits wrote:I'll 2nd that.
I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ?
Our best bet is to look to Europe and potentially use our links in Scandinavia to bring in no nonsense, low ego, low wage quality defenders, plus an experienced premier league goal keeper that's currently on the bench, possibly Sorensen or Given.
slugger
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5:47pm Sat 29 Dec 12
slugger wrote:Just to add , Stoke should have had a penalty when Jose handled the ball (got away with it) , why don't we have a dig at him ?
warrens 76 wrote:I did read your post twice ......... they all tried but to single Guly out is unfair (imo)
slugger wrote:Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...
warrens 76 wrote:Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......
...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....
...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.
I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...
...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...
...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...
...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.
...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.
Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...
...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....
Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
OSPREYSAINT
says...
5:47pm Sat 29 Dec 12
warrens 76 wrote:The fact that he has had very little time on the pitch hasn't helped him, it takes a few games to get up to speed, two minutes at the end of game is useless.
slugger wrote:Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...
warrens 76 wrote:Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......
...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....
...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.
I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...
...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...
...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...
...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.
...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.
Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...
...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....
Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
bluewhiteandred
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5:47pm Sat 29 Dec 12
You have interesting fixures coming up almost half your games the top 2 and Everton fifth.
And the other four games all possible 6 pointers !.
Villa now a incredible 15 goals conceded and none scored a must Win for you now
Aston Villa vs Southampton
Southampton vs Everton
Manchester United v Southampton
Wigan vs Southampton
Southampton vs Manchester City Newcastle vs Southampton
Southampton vs QPR
Have a happy new year Saints fans Pompey seasons is over all ready Saints with a game in hand still have
alot to play for.
Norwegian Saint
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5:52pm Sat 29 Dec 12
kent141 wrote:Haaahaaaaa.... Yeovil.... Heeehaaaaharrr... After Crawley... Haaaheeeehaaarr.... At home... Harrrrrhaaaaaharharh
ooooooops 2 points thrown away
ar.... In the relegation zone... Of league one... HAAAAHAARRRRHAAA!!!.
...
Ouch... My sides are hurting...
J7junctionseven
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5:55pm Sat 29 Dec 12
warrens 76 wrote:You are right, he should have scored. J Rod should also have squared the ball to RL when we were 2 on 2 but played a simple pass behind RL who would have had a tap in for 2-4.
slugger wrote:Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...
warrens 76 wrote:Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......
...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....
...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.
I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...
...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...
...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...
...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.
...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.
Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...
...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....
Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
Frustrating as it is and as painful it seems when other sides pick up results it is still encouraging that we are making these chances. The longer the players play together and get results the more chance there is that they will soon be taking these chances and getting us the results we need.
We are starting to show we are not a bottom 3 or 4 side and I feel will manage to climb away from the drop zone soon.
Other sides above us are becoming very nervous and slowly getting dragged back into the relegation battle
COYR FOADP FOB
warrens 76
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5:57pm Sat 29 Dec 12
slugger wrote:Slugger ffs it is not a dig it is an observation about a particular player who just should deliver more..look all our players tried today, however to win every team needs a player that can be relied upon to 'save' them..
slugger wrote:Just to add , Stoke should have had a penalty when Jose handled the ball (got away with it) , why don't we have a dig at him ?
warrens 76 wrote:I did read your post twice ......... they all tried but to single Guly out is unfair (imo)
slugger wrote:Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...
warrens 76 wrote:Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......
...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....
...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.
I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...
...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...
...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...
...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.
...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.
Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...
...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....
Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
..Van Persie last season got Arsenal in the Champions league with chance after chance taken in difficult situations...
Guly a'int no VP but he is supposed to be a cut above the average 'tryer'
... look we are crying out for another hero if Guly took his chances and boy they are not difficult we would be at least 9 points better off and he would be our hero....
Maybe Slugger it is the weight of expectations but in this league you take your chances if you have anything about you....
...it is like watching someone waste their talent and we are paying the price, I expect more from him but not necessarily others who do not have the same inate talent.
Thornhill Saint
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5:57pm Sat 29 Dec 12
slugger wrote:According to Uncle Dave, Guly played well. As well as his cross another noptable point was when he put out another excellent defensive ball up to Lambert from which we almost scored This was when our backs were against the wall.
warrens 76 wrote:Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......
...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....
...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.
I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...
...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...
...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...
...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.
...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.
Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...
...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
If he had scored the winner his rating may have edged up from OK to played well almost, Well if it was not Guly!!!! Total garbage booooooooo!!
Leaving Guly aside (From what I can tell from the radio he played well). It looks like we could not keep possesion and played too deep when we let in the second goal. Have not defended a lead so poorly for a while.
up saints
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5:57pm Sat 29 Dec 12
ghk230473
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6:00pm Sat 29 Dec 12
J7junctionseven wrote:Villa, qpr and reading are definitely worse than us, you could add fulham too. Newcastle are struggling but they have players missing.
warrens 76 wrote:You are right, he should have scored. J Rod should also have squared the ball to RL when we were 2 on 2 but played a simple pass behind RL who would have had a tap in for 2-4.
slugger wrote:Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...
warrens 76 wrote:Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......
...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....
...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.
I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...
...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...
...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...
...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.
...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.
Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...
...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....
Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
Frustrating as it is and as painful it seems when other sides pick up results it is still encouraging that we are making these chances. The longer the players play together and get results the more chance there is that they will soon be taking these chances and getting us the results we need.
We are starting to show we are not a bottom 3 or 4 side and I feel will manage to climb away from the drop zone soon.
Other sides above us are becoming very nervous and slowly getting dragged back into the relegation battle
COYR FOADP FOB
I really want to see players out in this transfer window and the right 3 at least in, these windows IMO are crucial.
slugger
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6:03pm Sat 29 Dec 12
warrens 76 wrote:No hard feelings ...... i just get a bit cheesed off with the Guly bashers ..... imo he hasn't been given a fair crack this season .
slugger wrote:Slugger ffs it is not a dig it is an observation about a particular player who just should deliver more..look all our players tried today, however to win every team needs a player that can be relied upon to 'save' them..
slugger wrote:Just to add , Stoke should have had a penalty when Jose handled the ball (got away with it) , why don't we have a dig at him ?
warrens 76 wrote:I did read your post twice ......... they all tried but to single Guly out is unfair (imo)
slugger wrote:Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...
warrens 76 wrote:Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......
...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....
...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.
I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...
...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...
...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...
...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.
...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.
Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...
...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....
Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
..Van Persie last season got Arsenal in the Champions league with chance after chance taken in difficult situations...
Guly a'int no VP but he is supposed to be a cut above the average 'tryer'
... look we are crying out for another hero if Guly took his chances and boy they are not difficult we would be at least 9 points better off and he would be our hero....
Maybe Slugger it is the weight of expectations but in this league you take your chances if you have anything about you....
...it is like watching someone waste their talent and we are paying the price, I expect more from him but not necessarily others who do not have the same inate talent.
Jameski
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6:07pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Littleton-Saint wrote:@Velleity Sharp is faster than lambert so your point doesn't make much sense tbh...
Velleity wrote:Sharp was our top scorer in pre-season. Presumably, he was part of the PremPlan when we bought him in January 2012 - either that or the strategy in buying him was incompetent . He lacks pace but makes up for it by being a Jimmy Greaves type of goal-scorer. I'd like to have seen him given a chance in the Prem..
Littleton-Saint wrote:I was saying this at the end of last season: Sharp is simply not quick enough for the Premiership.
Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks.
I don't care if he ends up as Forest's top scorer; that's in the Championship. He'd not even have been on the bench by now if he was still with us.
TEBOURBA
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6:08pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Great pity we let a 3-1 lead slip, it shows a lack of strength in depth.
NA & NC must now be fully aware of the weaknesses, certainly the posters on here are, and must get rid of the dross and buy in quality players in the transfer window.
If they choose wisely, who they ditch and who they sign, Saints will survive.
Tony Robertson
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6:08pm Sat 29 Dec 12
I wholeheartedly agree. There are many things he does with consummate ease, so much so that he gives the impression that he is not trying. Roll on Tuesday.
slugger
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6:08pm Sat 29 Dec 12
bluewhiteandred wrote:All very true ..... unfortunatly our game in hand is chelsea but never say never .
May feel like a defeat but that point may keep you up.
You have interesting fixures coming up almost half your games the top 2 and Everton fifth.
And the other four games all possible 6 pointers !.
Villa now a incredible 15 goals conceded and none scored a must Win for you now
Aston Villa vs Southampton
Southampton vs Everton
Manchester United v Southampton
Wigan vs Southampton
Southampton vs Manchester City Newcastle vs Southampton
Southampton vs QPR
Have a happy new year Saints fans Pompey seasons is over all ready Saints with a game in hand still have
alot to play for.
Velleity
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6:10pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Littleton-Saint wrote:Perhaps the strategy on signing him was, "He's good enough for the Championship. We're in the Championship, so let's sign him. He might get us up in which case we know he won't be fast enough but we can offload him to a team in the Championship"
Velleity wrote:Sharp was our top scorer in pre-season. Presumably, he was part of the PremPlan when we bought him in January 2012 - either that or the strategy in buying him was incompetent . He lacks pace but makes up for it by being a Jimmy Greaves type of goal-scorer. I'd like to have seen him given a chance in the Prem..
Littleton-Saint wrote:I was saying this at the end of last season: Sharp is simply not quick enough for the Premiership.
Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks.
I don't care if he ends up as Forest's top scorer; that's in the Championship. He'd not even have been on the bench by now if he was still with us.
Why is that incompetent? That sounds like excellent management to me.
SaintMax
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6:10pm Sat 29 Dec 12
SaintJD wrote:I've heard he's on £80k per week so though he souns affordable his wages aren't really. Love to be proved wrong mind you.
ghk230473 wrote:Sorry guys, we have no hope of signing Lescott, or Frank Lampard or anyone from a big club on big wages. I'd include Dawson in that. Great players, but others will come in and pay better fees and wages.
abbiscuits wrote:I'll 2nd that.
I hear 8m for Lescott....worth a punt ?
Our best bet is to look to Europe and potentially use our links in Scandinavia to bring in no nonsense, low ego, low wage quality defenders, plus an experienced premier league goal keeper that's currently on the bench, possibly Sorensen or Given.
We ground out another result today. I predicted 2-2 with them getting a player sent off, but this would have been a great result for any other team outside the top four.
Nicole23
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6:13pm Sat 29 Dec 12
What I dont like is the fact that the manager didnt seem to find any way to calm it down and stress the fact that we were winning the game.
Unless that ball was coated in goose fat at half time Kelvin has got some serious issues with catching a ball,come on please put Boruc in goal and stick with him, we cant keep throwing games away with soft goals.
warrens 76
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6:13pm Sat 29 Dec 12
slugger wrote:In fairness Slugger I have defended him against the boo boys at the ground and here...what I am saying today is I can see why more than other Saints players he annoys so many fans...
warrens 76 wrote:No hard feelings ...... i just get a bit cheesed off with the Guly bashers ..... imo he hasn't been given a fair crack this season .
slugger wrote:Slugger ffs it is not a dig it is an observation about a particular player who just should deliver more..look all our players tried today, however to win every team needs a player that can be relied upon to 'save' them..
slugger wrote:Just to add , Stoke should have had a penalty when Jose handled the ball (got away with it) , why don't we have a dig at him ?
warrens 76 wrote:I did read your post twice ......... they all tried but to single Guly out is unfair (imo)
slugger wrote:Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...
warrens 76 wrote:Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......
...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....
...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.
I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...
...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...
...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...
...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.
...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.
Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...
...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....
Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
..Van Persie last season got Arsenal in the Champions league with chance after chance taken in difficult situations...
Guly a'int no VP but he is supposed to be a cut above the average 'tryer'
... look we are crying out for another hero if Guly took his chances and boy they are not difficult we would be at least 9 points better off and he would be our hero....
Maybe Slugger it is the weight of expectations but in this league you take your chances if you have anything about you....
...it is like watching someone waste their talent and we are paying the price, I expect more from him but not necessarily others who do not have the same inate talent.
....I suppose he is just the one as a Brazilian to boot we expect a bit of composure from.
JohnItaly
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6:14pm Sat 29 Dec 12
SaintMax
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6:14pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Velleity wrote:I like sharpey but if he is that good why aren't 10 other bottom placed premier clubs, or 20 top placed championship clubs sniffing around him? I agree with you Vell
Littleton-Saint wrote:Perhaps the strategy on signing him was, "He's good enough for the Championship. We're in the Championship, so let's sign him. He might get us up in which case we know he won't be fast enough but we can offload him to a team in the Championship"
Velleity wrote:Sharp was our top scorer in pre-season. Presumably, he was part of the PremPlan when we bought him in January 2012 - either that or the strategy in buying him was incompetent . He lacks pace but makes up for it by being a Jimmy Greaves type of goal-scorer. I'd like to have seen him given a chance in the Prem..
Littleton-Saint wrote:I was saying this at the end of last season: Sharp is simply not quick enough for the Premiership.
Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks.
I don't care if he ends up as Forest's top scorer; that's in the Championship. He'd not even have been on the bench by now if he was still with us.
Why is that incompetent? That sounds like excellent management to me.
warrens 76
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6:15pm Sat 29 Dec 12
TEBOURBA wrote:Who the flying duck are 'we'.
Given Stoke's recent record, I think, before the game, most Saints supporters would have settled for a point.
Great pity we let a 3-1 lead slip, it shows a lack of strength in depth.
NA & NC must now be fully aware of the weaknesses, certainly the posters on here are, and must get rid of the dross and buy in quality players in the transfer window.
If they choose wisely, who they ditch and who they sign, Saints will survive.
J7junctionseven
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6:15pm Sat 29 Dec 12
ghk230473 wrote:Agree that 3 decent players could make all the difference.
J7junctionseven wrote:Villa, qpr and reading are definitely worse than us, you could add fulham too. Newcastle are struggling but they have players missing.
warrens 76 wrote:You are right, he should have scored. J Rod should also have squared the ball to RL when we were 2 on 2 but played a simple pass behind RL who would have had a tap in for 2-4.
slugger wrote:Slugger read again, I did not deny he TRIED..I am saying when called upon as a 'quality' player he constantly fails to deliver...
warrens 76 wrote:Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......
...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....
...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.
I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...
...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...
...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...
...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.
...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.
Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...
...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
....I would never boo him and no one should but he is our most frustrating player...the Sky sports panel have said exactly the same thing about the sitter he missed today for a 1-4 game over....
Last week ditto...Southampton expect everyman to do his duty to the best of their ability, somehow we are not getting the benefit of his ability.
Frustrating as it is and as painful it seems when other sides pick up results it is still encouraging that we are making these chances. The longer the players play together and get results the more chance there is that they will soon be taking these chances and getting us the results we need.
We are starting to show we are not a bottom 3 or 4 side and I feel will manage to climb away from the drop zone soon.
Other sides above us are becoming very nervous and slowly getting dragged back into the relegation battle
COYR FOADP FOB
I really want to see players out in this transfer window and the right 3 at least in, these windows IMO are crucial.
bluewhiteandred
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6:18pm Sat 29 Dec 12
slugger wrote:Hi Slugger The results are in the hands of the players quite achievable hero making games and 12 points are up for grabs frrom the bottom teams and who knows those the close games was it 3-2 against the Manchester teams if you could get 2 draws or 1 win happy days and Chelsea game wont matter you will be stayig up !
bluewhiteandred wrote:All very true ..... unfortunatly our game in hand is chelsea but never say never .
May feel like a defeat but that point may keep you up.
You have interesting fixures coming up almost half your games the top 2 and Everton fifth.
And the other four games all possible 6 pointers !.
Villa now a incredible 15 goals conceded and none scored a must Win for you now
Aston Villa vs Southampton
Southampton vs Everton
Manchester United v Southampton
Wigan vs Southampton
Southampton vs Manchester City Newcastle vs Southampton
Southampton vs QPR
Have a happy new year Saints fans Pompey seasons is over all ready Saints with a game in hand still have
alot to play for.
Tye-Dye pt2
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6:27pm Sat 29 Dec 12
slugger wrote:We'll give Chelski a d@mn good game cousin jollyf*ck, your spot on with never say never ;) Cheers bw&r, a decent pompey fan on here is very rare and you are right about the 6 pointers, there are at least 4 other clubs who can be dragged into this battle, after many seasons in the same predicament in the Prem we are more than ready for whats to come, bring it on!!! Good luck in the courts by the way.
bluewhiteandred wrote:All very true ..... unfortunatly our game in hand is chelsea but never say never .
May feel like a defeat but that point may keep you up.
You have interesting fixures coming up almost half your games the top 2 and Everton fifth.
And the other four games all possible 6 pointers !.
Villa now a incredible 15 goals conceded and none scored a must Win for you now
Aston Villa vs Southampton
Southampton vs Everton
Manchester United v Southampton
Wigan vs Southampton
Southampton vs Manchester City Newcastle vs Southampton
Southampton vs QPR
Have a happy new year Saints fans Pompey seasons is over all ready Saints with a game in hand still have
alot to play for.
warrens 76
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6:28pm Sat 29 Dec 12
JohnItaly wrote:Yes John it is a fine line and a bit of quality is needed we make more chances than at least 12 others in this league however I guarantee our missed chances are the highest or very close.....hence my annoyance when 'class' players keep missing..
Whilst like most fans I would have taken a draw with Stoke at the start, what I find concerning is the number of points Saints have dropped from winning positions - am sure someone knows. I remain a fan of Nigel Adkins but I am concerned about his tactical ability to close out a game. The dividing line between success and failure is very narrow and if this had been the last game of the season all those lost points would have proved fatal - and they still might.
On a bright note we only conceded 3...have always said our defence will not save us....taking our chances when they fall would.
OSPREYSAINT
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6:30pm Sat 29 Dec 12
SaintMax wrote:I like him for sentimental reason, I don't know if he would make the grade at Premier level as I have never seen him play there.
Velleity wrote:I like sharpey but if he is that good why aren't 10 other bottom placed premier clubs, or 20 top placed championship clubs sniffing around him? I agree with you Vell
Littleton-Saint wrote:Perhaps the strategy on signing him was, "He's good enough for the Championship. We're in the Championship, so let's sign him. He might get us up in which case we know he won't be fast enough but we can offload him to a team in the Championship"
Velleity wrote:Sharp was our top scorer in pre-season. Presumably, he was part of the PremPlan when we bought him in January 2012 - either that or the strategy in buying him was incompetent . He lacks pace but makes up for it by being a Jimmy Greaves type of goal-scorer. I'd like to have seen him given a chance in the Prem..
Littleton-Saint wrote:I was saying this at the end of last season: Sharp is simply not quick enough for the Premiership.
Meanwhile, Billy Sharp scores again - an own goal for Saints methinks.
I don't care if he ends up as Forest's top scorer; that's in the Championship. He'd not even have been on the bench by now if he was still with us.
Why is that incompetent? That sounds like excellent management to me.
saintmicky
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6:34pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Thornhill Saint wrote:Not a Guly fan sometimes he lacks commitment, (someone has already mentioned the Joel Ward goal for the skates!) but I have to say he was committed today, I won't criticise any saints player who wears the shirt with pride, if that's the level of performance he is going to give week in week out I will be happy to see him play. Hurts losing the 3 points, and seeing us back in the bottom three. I hope we strengthen during January, but I am with those who feel that maybe a poacher with a bit of pace may be top of the list.
slugger wrote:According to Uncle Dave, Guly played well. As well as his cross another noptable point was when he put out another excellent defensive ball up to Lambert from which we almost scored This was when our backs were against the wall.
warrens 76 wrote:Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......
...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....
...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.
I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...
...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...
...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...
...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.
...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.
Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...
...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
If he had scored the winner his rating may have edged up from OK to played well almost, Well if it was not Guly!!!! Total garbage booooooooo!!
Leaving Guly aside (From what I can tell from the radio he played well). It looks like we could not keep possesion and played too deep when we let in the second goal. Have not defended a lead so poorly for a while.
STID
OSPREYSAINT
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6:37pm Sat 29 Dec 12
kent141 wrote:I agree with you, anyone criticising this bit of insight are out of order.
ooooooops 2 points thrown away
mack chinnon
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6:38pm Sat 29 Dec 12
saintmicky
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6:59pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Quite right too! We would be incapable of evaluating the result without K*nty!!
kent141 wrote:I agree with you, anyone criticising this bit of insight are out of order.
ooooooops 2 points thrown away
OSPREYSAINT
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7:09pm Sat 29 Dec 12
saintmicky wrote:Yes, we have been underestimating the wisdom, because we are so anti- skunt blinkered we can't see the wood for the trees.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Quite right too! We would be incapable of evaluating the result without K*nty!!
kent141 wrote:I agree with you, anyone criticising this bit of insight are out of order.
ooooooops 2 points thrown away
OSPREYSAINT
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7:17pm Sat 29 Dec 12
saintmicky
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7:22pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Perhaps to demonstrate that we are getting the hang of this insightful behaviour, I should state that Yeovil 2 - Portsmouth 1 at Fratton Park could be considered as 3 points thrown away then!!
saintmicky wrote:Yes, we have been underestimating the wisdom, because we are so anti- skunt blinkered we can't see the wood for the trees.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Quite right too! We would be incapable of evaluating the result without K*nty!!
kent141 wrote:I agree with you, anyone criticising this bit of insight are out of order.
ooooooops 2 points thrown away
STID
Velleity
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7:28pm Sat 29 Dec 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Finished 7-3: Good, brings Newcastle down into the relegation battle.
Don't like to worry you but Arsenal are winning 6 3 against Newcastle.
OSPREYSAINT
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7:36pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Velleity wrote:Always a silver lining, we will just have to outscore them or settle for a 0 0 Draw.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Finished 7-3: Good, brings Newcastle down into the relegation battle.
Don't like to worry you but Arsenal are winning 6 3 against Newcastle.
ghk230473
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7:54pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Nicole23 wrote:Merson on sky sports said similar, only lambert had composure and if he had pace he would be playing for 1 of the top 4!
I dont blame any player for this result, 1st half was good. What I saw the second half was some sort of crazy ping pong with players like urghhh get that white round thing away from me I dont like it.
What I dont like is the fact that the manager didnt seem to find any way to calm it down and stress the fact that we were winning the game.
Unless that ball was coated in goose fat at half time Kelvin has got some serious issues with catching a ball,come on please put Boruc in goal and stick with him, we cant keep throwing games away with soft goals.
Do tend to agree about Adkins decision making or lack of it, keeper in transfer window has got to be priority. Using 3 and not knowing out of the 2 which is the better (or worse) is a problem. A good keeper breeds confidence in the defence.
Meribelsaint
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9:27pm Sat 29 Dec 12
saintmicky wrote:I saw the match on stream too and thought Guly played pretty well, maybe I was watching a different Guly to Warren!
Thornhill Saint wrote:Not a Guly fan sometimes he lacks commitment, (someone has already mentioned the Joel Ward goal for the skates!) but I have to say he was committed today, I won't criticise any saints player who wears the shirt with pride, if that's the level of performance he is going to give week in week out I will be happy to see him play. Hurts losing the 3 points, and seeing us back in the bottom three. I hope we strengthen during January, but I am with those who feel that maybe a poacher with a bit of pace may be top of the list.
slugger wrote:According to Uncle Dave, Guly played well. As well as his cross another noptable point was when he put out another excellent defensive ball up to Lambert from which we almost scored This was when our backs were against the wall.
warrens 76 wrote:Don't agree , sorry ..... Gully plated ok today and to intimate that he was in some way to blame beggers belief .
Watched on stream....2 goal lead against 10 men and Stoke were rubbish we just kept giving the ball away AGAIN......
...had we gone for it with their defence missing we would, should and could have 3 incredibly important points in the bag....
...Wigan went above us and in the end whose fault.
I am seething because at the end of the season if we are relegated i will not blame the howlers but the misses...
...which brings me rather neatly to Guly, every club has a player that the fans just will not warm to, sometimes incredibly unfairly, sometimes their efforts or lack of, or PROMISE leave the supporters very annoyed...
...I can NOW put my finger on it with Guly, even though he tried somehow he is a player we EXPECT to deliver and in our teams time of need he just fails...
...Pmuff away last season a pathetic no balls head at the ball allowed our bitter rivals to draw, this season on two occassions he could have scored what for a quality player (not average) easy chances, today the ball came back quick to him but he was unmarked and open goal......1-4 game over.
...in short he is one of those players you expect to deliver and in critical situations does not time and time again.
Note he tried today no question but he always falls slightly short...we can forgive lesser players but he flatters to deceive...
...too many times now, as you can tell I am really peed off and I feel that he is the link that consistantly blows chances that so called quality players should finish...
If he had scored the winner his rating may have edged up from OK to played well almost, Well if it was not Guly!!!! Total garbage booooooooo!!
Leaving Guly aside (From what I can tell from the radio he played well). It looks like we could not keep possesion and played too deep when we let in the second goal. Have not defended a lead so poorly for a while.
STID
Felt like a defeat at the final whistle but I would have taken a point if offered before kick off. On to the next one and at least the gooners don't seem to be playing too well at the mo'!!!!!
COYRs
Scarborosaint
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10:29pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Dave Brown
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10:15pm Wed 16 Jan 13
Will they include Fratton Park?.
up saints says...
12:58pm Sat 29 Dec 12