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Saints happy with a Cork-ing effort
8:15pm Tuesday 1st January 2013 in Sport
Jack Cork
Saints duo Jack Cork and Morgan Schneiderlin were full of praise for their side's work rate after a 1-1 draw with Arsenal at St Mary's.
Saints arguably deserved all three points after taking the lead through Gaston Ramirez in the 34th minute but were pegged back shortly before half-time when Guly do Prado could only direct Theo Walcott's free-kick into his own net.
Ramirez had the ball in the back of the net once more with an exquisite control and volley on the turn after the interval but it was chalked off for a foul in the build-up.
Midfielder Cork, who filled in at right-back , was slightly disappointed as Southampton were held to a draw for their second consecutive game but he was quick to hail the team's performance.
"It was a good point. I think we could have nicked it towards the end," said Cork.
"The goal was unfortunate that they scored but the lads put a real shift in today.
"We've had a real tough week, we had Stoke last game and the game before that everyone's worked really hard. It's been a busy Christmas period but we've got a few points."
Southampton conceded a 3-1 lead to draw 3-3 at Stoke over the weekend but Schneiderlin echoed his team-mate's thoughts.
"We knew before the game that this was going to be very hard, we knew they were going to keep possession and that we needed to keep a good shape and we did at that at times," said the Frenchman.
"We were unlucky with the goal we conceded but we gave a good shift, we gave everything for each other."
Southampton suffered a 6-1 defeat at the Emirates Stadium in September but boss Nigel Adkins is pleased they are learning from their mistakes.
"The lads yet again put a very good performance in and it just shows how far we've come," he said.
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"At the start if the season we got a good spanking down at their place and today, I thought defensively we looked very solid.
"Tactically we were good and all round some really good performances.
"A good goal - I haven't seen the one that was disallowed, I don't know whether it was for offside or for pushing - but all round a good performance from the players yet again."
Saints moved out of the Premier League drop zone on goal difference but Adkins was not getting ahead of himself.
"The league table's going to fluctuate," he added.
"What it does demonstrate is that we're in there, we're in there fighting and we're fighting for each other."
The result brought Arsenal back down to earth following their 7-3 win over Newcastle at the weekend.
The Gunners are now four points adrift of fourth-placed Chelsea, who also have a game in hand, and manager Arsene Wenger pulled no punches following the draw.
"We were not very good offensively, we didn't create enough. Defensively we were not too many times under threat but we didn't create enough chances," he said.
"We just scored seven on Saturday and of course I'm afraid we lacked sharpness and desire.
"Was it deeply underestimating Southampton? I hope not."
Comments(69)
Saintsteve7
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8:29pm Tue 1 Jan 13
willygetaway
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8:30pm Tue 1 Jan 13
BRING ON CHELSKI
COYR
OSPREYSAINT
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8:46pm Tue 1 Jan 13
skiptonsaint
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8:54pm Tue 1 Jan 13
Even j rod ? Not sure he doesnt look more and more like a pacey rickie lambert
And lets remember that was all without adam and clyne which means we are showing a bit of squad depth
Coyr
saintlysoul
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8:59pm Tue 1 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:You and me both Osprey I'm pleased to say my pessimism was wholly misplaced! I was impressed with the side today especially Lambert, Ramirez and Guly who I thought put in good shifts! Cork did well out of position and I thought our midfield coped well with Wishire who was very good. It was great to see JWP come on and what a great advertisement for the Southampton fc academy having four graduates on the pitch - the Ox, theo, shaw and JWP and as far as saints are concerned having possibly in shaw and JWP two of the youngest players in the premier league.
Boy did I get that one wrong, I expected to be on the end of a masterclass, yet we were by far the better team on the day, could have won it with just one decent break. As for Borucs handling in the first half, did someone put axle grease on the ball or something? Mind you the pitch had a big influence on the game, so many slips at crucial times. Anyway I am in a much better frame of mind, one game isn't the be all and end all, but it was a very important point.
Does spider's yellow card mean that he misses Aston Villa?
It's nice to return home having seen all the team give 100 per cent keep this up lads!!!!!!
Five Trophies Between Us
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9:00pm Tue 1 Jan 13
Nige is God
Ted Rogers
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9:02pm Tue 1 Jan 13
Unfortunate goal to concede, but credit to Guly who was outstanding.
Good substitutions from Nigel, both timing and personnel.
Sort keeper situation out (Boruc is comical really, he's so laid back without any real quality) and we'll finish above QPR, Wigan, Reading, Fulham, West Ham, Newcastle and Sunderland.
Up the Saints.
willygetaway
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9:04pm Tue 1 Jan 13
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:5 goals between us lol all you got is memories. move along nothing to see here but bitter n twisted
The deck chairs for Europe!!!!
Nige is God
LOL WTFILN COYR
warrens 76
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9:17pm Tue 1 Jan 13
saintlysoul wrote:Me too, hands up...what a turn around..to be disappointed with a draw against the 4rse...and good football too....a bit more belief and I think we would have won it...
OSPREYSAINT wrote:You and me both Osprey I'm pleased to say my pessimism was wholly misplaced! I was impressed with the side today especially Lambert, Ramirez and Guly who I thought put in good shifts! Cork did well out of position and I thought our midfield coped well with Wishire who was very good. It was great to see JWP come on and what a great advertisement for the Southampton fc academy having four graduates on the pitch - the Ox, theo, shaw and JWP and as far as saints are concerned having possibly in shaw and JWP two of the youngest players in the premier league.
Boy did I get that one wrong, I expected to be on the end of a masterclass, yet we were by far the better team on the day, could have won it with just one decent break. As for Borucs handling in the first half, did someone put axle grease on the ball or something? Mind you the pitch had a big influence on the game, so many slips at crucial times. Anyway I am in a much better frame of mind, one game isn't the be all and end all, but it was a very important point.
Does spider's yellow card mean that he misses Aston Villa?
It's nice to return home having seen all the team give 100 per cent keep this up lads!!!!!!
Anybody else believe if the big four had scored Ramirez second it would have been disallowed?
warrens 76
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9:18pm Tue 1 Jan 13
willygetaway wrote:Quite right bro!
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:5 goals between us lol all you got is memories. move along nothing to see here but bitter n twisted
The deck chairs for Europe!!!!
Nige is God
LOL WTFILN COYR
willygetaway
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9:20pm Tue 1 Jan 13
warrens 76 wrote:Aaaaahh i,m not Robert Winston
willygetaway wrote:Quite right bro!
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:5 goals between us lol all you got is memories. move along nothing to see here but bitter n twisted
The deck chairs for Europe!!!!
Nige is God
LOL WTFILN COYR
slugger
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9:22pm Tue 1 Jan 13
rocketone
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9:24pm Tue 1 Jan 13
All the fans were with the team and we kicked every ball and felt all the emotions.
I felt that this game was not as important as the Villa game will be.
So to get a point and more than that, feel that we could have had 3.
Three draws, ok. Wins would have been better, but surviving the first season was the realistic target.
Some transfer targets have been mentioned, not as desperately needed as we thought.
If we do get Butland , does he go straight in? Who leaves to make room? 5 goalies on the books, the 3 recent ones all very young and inexperienced.
Nigel will need to be certain that he makes the best decision as everyone else is going to have 20/20 hindsight vision and be 100% correct.
Looking forward to MotD to see again the good things I thought I saw at SMS.
saintlysoul
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9:25pm Tue 1 Jan 13
slugger wrote:Slugger I admit I got this one wrong the Saints outplayed the gooners today if they can reproduce this display for the rest of the season they surely must survive in this league- sorry!!!!!!
Shame about Swindon ....... they could only manage 5 goals ! .......... Saints on the other hand outplayed one of the best teams in europe ........ 1-1 flattered Arsenal ........... chant of the year so far to Arsen ........" you're just a french Jimmy Saville "... lol
OSPREYSAINT
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9:29pm Tue 1 Jan 13
saintlysoul wrote:You aren't the only one, even the most positive happy clappers had written this one off before it started, and again, just like the Stoke game you look at starting eleven and wonder. Then they put in a performance that no one expected, well done NA, well done the players and well done the twelth man. I just hope I can say that again and again.
slugger wrote:Slugger I admit I got this one wrong the Saints outplayed the gooners today if they can reproduce this display for the rest of the season they surely must survive in this league- sorry!!!!!!
Shame about Swindon ....... they could only manage 5 goals ! .......... Saints on the other hand outplayed one of the best teams in europe ........ 1-1 flattered Arsenal ........... chant of the year so far to Arsen ........" you're just a french Jimmy Saville "... lol
OSPREYSAINT
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9:34pm Tue 1 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT
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9:35pm Tue 1 Jan 13
slugger
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9:36pm Tue 1 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I can honestly say that i've never come away from a draw so positive ......... until today i thought us v Newcastle was the best we'd played ..... we were much better today and am looking forward to watching the game i sky plussed !
saintlysoul wrote:You aren't the only one, even the most positive happy clappers had written this one off before it started, and again, just like the Stoke game you look at starting eleven and wonder. Then they put in a performance that no one expected, well done NA, well done the players and well done the twelth man. I just hope I can say that again and again.
slugger wrote:Slugger I admit I got this one wrong the Saints outplayed the gooners today if they can reproduce this display for the rest of the season they surely must survive in this league- sorry!!!!!!
Shame about Swindon ....... they could only manage 5 goals ! .......... Saints on the other hand outplayed one of the best teams in europe ........ 1-1 flattered Arsenal ........... chant of the year so far to Arsen ........" you're just a french Jimmy Saville "... lol
warrens 76
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9:40pm Tue 1 Jan 13
willygetaway wrote:Neither are you!...
warrens 76 wrote:Aaaaahh i,m not Robert Winston
willygetaway wrote:Quite right bro!
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:5 goals between us lol all you got is memories. move along nothing to see here but bitter n twisted
The deck chairs for Europe!!!!
Nige is God
LOL WTFILN COYR
willygetaway
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9:44pm Tue 1 Jan 13
saintlysoul
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9:45pm Tue 1 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Thanks!
... and no the yellow for Cork will not mean a suspension, 10 is the next target, hence why he was a bit meatier in the tackle today, he had been **** footing a bit for about four games.
SnapperSaint
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9:45pm Tue 1 Jan 13
Fantastic game today feel shattered after so much excitement!!!
willygetaway
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9:47pm Tue 1 Jan 13
warrens 76 wrote:could you lend me 50 francs lol
willygetaway wrote:Neither are you!...
warrens 76 wrote:Aaaaahh i,m not Robert Winston
willygetaway wrote:Quite right bro!
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:5 goals between us lol all you got is memories. move along nothing to see here but bitter n twisted
The deck chairs for Europe!!!!
Nige is God
LOL WTFILN COYR
Buddy SFC
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9:49pm Tue 1 Jan 13
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:Yep ....................
The deck chairs for Europe!!!! Nige is God
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Five Trophies Between Us
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9:49pm Tue 1 Jan 13
slugger wrote:best chant of any team gans to ur also rans. "ur just a cheap ipswich town"
Shame about Swindon ....... they could only manage 5 goals ! .......... Saints on the other hand outplayed one of the best teams in europe ........ 1-1 flattered Arsenal ........... chant of the year so far to Arsen ........" you're just a french Jimmy Saville "... lol
tarquin farquharson
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9:50pm Tue 1 Jan 13
Do Prado had a great chance to put us 2-1 up but unfortunately lacks the required football brain or instinct. Sure, he tried harder today than at any other time I have seen him this season, but he is not Premier League quality, being one-paced, slow of thought, and ponderous in the amount of time and touches he takes to link.
In fact, we played with nine men today. I do not believe that Boruc is not a painter and decorator in his real life. He does not have the required physique for a Premier League keeper. He does not command his area. His handling is poor. Much of his kicking was straight out of play.
We are moving in the right direction...slowly..
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warrens 76
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9:53pm Tue 1 Jan 13
willygetaway wrote:Will I be checking parking meters in Martinique?
could you lend me 50 francs lol
kent141
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9:53pm Tue 1 Jan 13
slugger
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9:55pm Tue 1 Jan 13
tarquin farquharson wrote:Leave Guly alone ffs ! , he played his part in an excellent performance !
We were definitely the better team today and should have picked up the three points with more of a desire to shoot when in good positions in the box.
Do Prado had a great chance to put us 2-1 up but unfortunately lacks the required football brain or instinct. Sure, he tried harder today than at any other time I have seen him this season, but he is not Premier League quality, being one-paced, slow of thought, and ponderous in the amount of time and touches he takes to link.
In fact, we played with nine men today. I do not believe that Boruc is not a painter and decorator in his real life. He does not have the required physique for a Premier League keeper. He does not command his area. His handling is poor. Much of his kicking was straight out of play.
We are moving in the right direction...slowly..
..
slugger
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9:56pm Tue 1 Jan 13
kent141 wrote:Swindon did ok too .
Forget talk of relegation ,a top six finish is a real possibility after that performance, incredible and outstanding tactics by Nigel made Arsenal look poor and Ramirez was masterful as were the whole team and the atmosphere bought a tear to my eye.
Five Trophies Between Us
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9:56pm Tue 1 Jan 13
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:"fans" or "ur just a cheap sheff utd"
slugger wrote: Shame about Swindon ....... they could only manage 5 goals ! .......... Saints on the other hand outplayed one of the best teams in europe ........ 1-1 flattered Arsenal ........... chant of the year so far to Arsen ........" you're just a french Jimmy Saville "... lolbest chant of any team gans to ur also rans. "ur just a cheap ipswich town"
angus mc coatup
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10:04pm Tue 1 Jan 13
looked every bit a good as them. keeper looked a bit dodgey at first,probably nerves.but settled down ok in the second half. best all round team performance so far this season for me.very impressed with the whole lot of them.If we put that sort of effort and commitment into every game we can survive.we just need a bit more quality and we will be a good side.
after that I'm feeling much more confident in our chances of staying up.
all in all well done saints.
willygetaway
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10:06pm Tue 1 Jan 13
warrens 76 wrote:how do you know he was blind
willygetaway wrote:Will I be checking parking meters in Martinique?
could you lend me 50 francs lol
kent141
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10:14pm Tue 1 Jan 13
slugger wrote:Im just glad i managed to pick up a ticket outside the ground, missed the first five minutes and was in with the gooners but was the best 20 quid ive spent, the noise cascading down was like nothing ive heard before, the poor old londoners couldent believe it and looked bemused.
kent141 wrote:Swindon did ok too .
Forget talk of relegation ,a top six finish is a real possibility after that performance, incredible and outstanding tactics by Nigel made Arsenal look poor and Ramirez was masterful as were the whole team and the atmosphere bought a tear to my eye.
Ted Rogers
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10:17pm Tue 1 Jan 13
tarquin farquharson wrote:Your synopsis of Guly leads me to believe that you really don't know much about football.
We were definitely the better team today and should have picked up the three points with more of a desire to shoot when in good positions in the box.
Do Prado had a great chance to put us 2-1 up but unfortunately lacks the required football brain or instinct. Sure, he tried harder today than at any other time I have seen him this season, but he is not Premier League quality, being one-paced, slow of thought, and ponderous in the amount of time and touches he takes to link.
In fact, we played with nine men today. I do not believe that Boruc is not a painter and decorator in his real life. He does not have the required physique for a Premier League keeper. He does not command his area. His handling is poor. Much of his kicking was straight out of play.
We are moving in the right direction...slowly..
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Baddesley Bill
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10:19pm Tue 1 Jan 13
Schneiderlin was my MOM...hard as nails in the tackle (now he has no ban looming) and great distribution. It is hard to pick on anyone for a weak performance (despite Boruc's nervv start, I thought he dealt with things ok in general).
Superb entertainment...grea
t atmosphere...and one more crucial point...now bring on the Villa!!! COYR
OSPREYSAINT
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10:20pm Tue 1 Jan 13
tarquin farquharson wrote:You are right in one respect, Boruc, needs to up his personal fitness, match fitness will only by playing more games. Football First is on I will pay more attention to what actually happened/
We were definitely the better team today and should have picked up the three points with more of a desire to shoot when in good positions in the box.
Do Prado had a great chance to put us 2-1 up but unfortunately lacks the required football brain or instinct. Sure, he tried harder today than at any other time I have seen him this season, but he is not Premier League quality, being one-paced, slow of thought, and ponderous in the amount of time and touches he takes to link.
In fact, we played with nine men today. I do not believe that Boruc is not a painter and decorator in his real life. He does not have the required physique for a Premier League keeper. He does not command his area. His handling is poor. Much of his kicking was straight out of play.
We are moving in the right direction...slowly..
..
penalty
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10:24pm Tue 1 Jan 13
Brilliant point today, although Boruc nearly cost us early on in the first half with his inability to hold a ball. His distribution was also suspect.
We really need to bring in a decent keeper...
Great to be out of the bottom 3, looking forward to Chelsea..
COYR!!
Clever Dick
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10:27pm Tue 1 Jan 13
angus mc coatup wrote:Y I agree. The Ars wern't at their best but a good solid all round performance by everybody. Corky did an outstanding job at RB and young Luke must've had Wenger drooling. That game put at least another 5m on his price tag. Back four were never troubled. Gaston scared the sh-t out of them. Spider back to his best now that 10 yellows are needed b4 suspension. Davis did well, Rickie too and Punch goond half. Shame about the own goal. No doubt the Guly knockers will pick up on that Well done the lads.
cracking game, cracking performance,good atmosphere. competed all over the park and
looked every bit a good as them. keeper looked a bit dodgey at first,probably nerves.but settled down ok in the second half. best all round team performance so far this season for me.very impressed with the whole lot of them.If we put that sort of effort and commitment into every game we can survive.we just need a bit more quality and we will be a good side.
after that I'm feeling much more confident in our chances of staying up.
all in all well done saints.
Baddesley Bill
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10:27pm Tue 1 Jan 13
...it's interesting to get independent views sometimes rather than the same old same old.
Baddesley Bill
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10:30pm Tue 1 Jan 13
kent141 wrote:Could you not make it to Swindon?...it's really not that far away.
slugger wrote:Im just glad i managed to pick up a ticket outside the ground, missed the first five minutes and was in with the gooners but was the best 20 quid ive spent, the noise cascading down was like nothing ive heard before, the poor old londoners couldent believe it and looked bemused.
kent141 wrote:Swindon did ok too .
Forget talk of relegation ,a top six finish is a real possibility after that performance, incredible and outstanding tactics by Nigel made Arsenal look poor and Ramirez was masterful as were the whole team and the atmosphere bought a tear to my eye.
OSPREYSAINT
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10:41pm Tue 1 Jan 13
Velleity
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10:53pm Tue 1 Jan 13
tarquin farquharson wrote:Two relatives were at the game, both Arsenal fans.
We were definitely the better team today and should have picked up the three points with more of a desire to shoot when in good positions in the box.
Do Prado had a great chance to put us 2-1 up but unfortunately lacks the required football brain or instinct. Sure, he tried harder today than at any other time I have seen him this season, but he is not Premier League quality, being one-paced, slow of thought, and ponderous in the amount of time and touches he takes to link.
In fact, we played with nine men today. I do not believe that Boruc is not a painter and decorator in his real life. He does not have the required physique for a Premier League keeper. He does not command his area. His handling is poor. Much of his kicking was straight out of play.
We are moving in the right direction...slowly..
..
The first thing they said when I met them after the game was "Who's that tall black guy, number 21; he was fantastic".
Seriously, those were the first words, even before "Hello, you tosspot".
I love the fact that his was the only missed opportunity that you noticed...and, by the way, I speak as someone who didn't used to rate him until I actually watched him for a while.
Velleity
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10:57pm Tue 1 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill wrote:Did the Kentster make it to the Joshua Tree or was that yet another little fantasy along with being a Saints fan?
I bumped into Valleity in the boozer after the game...he'd taken a relative to the game...a Gooner who thought one "Guly Do Prado" was the best player on the pitch tonight.
...it's interesting to get independent views sometimes rather than the same old same old.
OSPREYSAINT
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10:59pm Tue 1 Jan 13
Velleity
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11:00pm Tue 1 Jan 13
Puddletown Saint says...
5:02pm Tue 1 Jan 13
"Oh dear !!!!!
I just hope Boruc and Guly prove me wrong. Hope it is both their last games. We really need some quality rather than quantity."
That sounds like you made your mind up before kick off and didn't let what you saw on the pitch get in the way of your prejudices...
OSPREYSAINT
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11:10pm Tue 1 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill
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11:12pm Tue 1 Jan 13
Velleity wrote:There was a young lad with a snotty nose and a wet patch on his jeans sat in the gutter with a bag of crisps...I assume that was him :O)
Baddesley Bill wrote:Did the Kentster make it to the Joshua Tree or was that yet another little fantasy along with being a Saints fan?
I bumped into Valleity in the boozer after the game...he'd taken a relative to the game...a Gooner who thought one "Guly Do Prado" was the best player on the pitch tonight.
...it's interesting to get independent views sometimes rather than the same old same old.
randre
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11:24pm Tue 1 Jan 13
I thought everyone in the Saints team played a huge part and deserve credit for today. I was very disappointed with some supporter next to me (who I have never seen before) he couldn't stop moaning about Guly and Rodriguez when he came on.
I really don't know what vendetta some of these supporters have against one or two of our players, but they are saints players and should be given our full support.
Every one of our players did well today, after the first 10 minutes which we seemed nervy. But after that the team settled well and out played Arsenal for most of the game in my opinion.
Please, If you go to watch the saints, please support every one playing for the saints. If you can't then you should go and support another side and leave the supporters to give our team the backing their efforts deserve.
Well done Saints.
saintshorse101
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11:26pm Tue 1 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:come on osprey, you cant really think that was a foul can you? he touched him no push, if he was pushed then why did he still manage to make an effort to head the ball and still fall backwards? if that is now seen as a freekick offence by the officials then the games gone to the wall. i get fed up with the experts on tv calling every slight touch a foul. bale dived again the other day and rightly got booked, yet on motd they said there was contact and so he should have gone down! should have gone down! easy way to deal with the divers though, if caught diving by the ref or panel then they get a 3 game ban!
The 2nd "goal" was not disallowed for off side, it was for contact by Rambo on the defender, harsh because he had been on the receiving end of much worse treatment himself, but the Lino called it right.
OSPREYSAINT
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11:49pm Tue 1 Jan 13
Clever Dick
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11:51pm Tue 1 Jan 13
saintshorse101 wrote:Just watched it on MOTD. Minimal contact. 99 times out of a hundred that is not a free kick. Save it for the Villa Gaston.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:come on osprey, you cant really think that was a foul can you? he touched him no push, if he was pushed then why did he still manage to make an effort to head the ball and still fall backwards? if that is now seen as a freekick offence by the officials then the games gone to the wall. i get fed up with the experts on tv calling every slight touch a foul. bale dived again the other day and rightly got booked, yet on motd they said there was contact and so he should have gone down! should have gone down! easy way to deal with the divers though, if caught diving by the ref or panel then they get a 3 game ban!
The 2nd "goal" was not disallowed for off side, it was for contact by Rambo on the defender, harsh because he had been on the receiving end of much worse treatment himself, but the Lino called it right.
RedArmy1
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11:55pm Tue 1 Jan 13
WELL DONE SAINTS.
ENJOYED THE GAME - WELL DONE TO THE MANAGER AND TEAM.
COYR.
saintshorse101
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12:15am Wed 2 Jan 13
Clever Dick wrote:osprey i never said that bale wasnt contacted, however the contact he got was minimal and didnt cause him to drag his leg in the hope of contact there. i dont care how fast you are running slight contact on your knee will not cause you to `dive` forwards. contact like that would have thrown him sideways. i remember the days of razor, hurlock steve williams and mark dennis, they all made hard and mostly fair tackles, though sometimes rightly booked or sent off, i can still see dennis making a two footed waist high challenge and prostesting his red card, anyway can you imagine any of those players expecting to get the gaston foul? or their reaction to bale going down like he did? players rarley went down like that back in those days so why now? simple answer they are told any and that means any contact is deemed to be a foul, and that cant be right.
saintshorse101 wrote:Just watched it on MOTD. Minimal contact. 99 times out of a hundred that is not a free kick. Save it for the Villa Gaston.OSPREYSAINT wrote: The 2nd "goal" was not disallowed for off side, it was for contact by Rambo on the defender, harsh because he had been on the receiving end of much worse treatment himself, but the Lino called it right.come on osprey, you cant really think that was a foul can you? he touched him no push, if he was pushed then why did he still manage to make an effort to head the ball and still fall backwards? if that is now seen as a freekick offence by the officials then the games gone to the wall. i get fed up with the experts on tv calling every slight touch a foul. bale dived again the other day and rightly got booked, yet on motd they said there was contact and so he should have gone down! should have gone down! easy way to deal with the divers though, if caught diving by the ref or panel then they get a 3 game ban!
St Retford
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12:21am Wed 2 Jan 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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12:24am Wed 2 Jan 13
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:What on earth are you rambling on about? Are you part of the PST?
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:"fans" or "ur just a cheap sheff utd"
slugger wrote: Shame about Swindon ....... they could only manage 5 goals ! .......... Saints on the other hand outplayed one of the best teams in europe ........ 1-1 flattered Arsenal ........... chant of the year so far to Arsen ........" you're just a french Jimmy Saville "... lolbest chant of any team gans to ur also rans. "ur just a cheap ipswich town"
DisplacedFan
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12:26am Wed 2 Jan 13
Bring it on.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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12:28am Wed 2 Jan 13
If that nudge by Gaston was a foul then the tackle on Yoshida was a Pen.
Strasbourg Saint
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12:29am Wed 2 Jan 13
saintshorse101 wrote:This all shows how hard it can be for refs, fans and TV pundit-****-d!ckheads like Lawrenson. All I ask for is consistency and wish that the old adage that it 'evens itself out over the season' were true. But it isn't, the big four (or five) will always get more of the breaks.
Clever Dick wrote:osprey i never said that bale wasnt contacted, however the contact he got was minimal and didnt cause him to drag his leg in the hope of contact there. i dont care how fast you are running slight contact on your knee will not cause you to `dive` forwards. contact like that would have thrown him sideways. i remember the days of razor, hurlock steve williams and mark dennis, they all made hard and mostly fair tackles, though sometimes rightly booked or sent off, i can still see dennis making a two footed waist high challenge and prostesting his red card, anyway can you imagine any of those players expecting to get the gaston foul? or their reaction to bale going down like he did? players rarley went down like that back in those days so why now? simple answer they are told any and that means any contact is deemed to be a foul, and that cant be right.
saintshorse101 wrote:Just watched it on MOTD. Minimal contact. 99 times out of a hundred that is not a free kick. Save it for the Villa Gaston.OSPREYSAINT wrote: The 2nd "goal" was not disallowed for off side, it was for contact by Rambo on the defender, harsh because he had been on the receiving end of much worse treatment himself, but the Lino called it right.come on osprey, you cant really think that was a foul can you? he touched him no push, if he was pushed then why did he still manage to make an effort to head the ball and still fall backwards? if that is now seen as a freekick offence by the officials then the games gone to the wall. i get fed up with the experts on tv calling every slight touch a foul. bale dived again the other day and rightly got booked, yet on motd they said there was contact and so he should have gone down! should have gone down! easy way to deal with the divers though, if caught diving by the ref or panel then they get a 3 game ban!
Take the Yosh pen today. It looked remarkably similar to the one awarded to Man City when Jos was penalised. Only difference being that Tevez (I think it was him, wasn't it?) deliberately put himself between the ball and Jos, where as today, Yosh was 'nutted' so to speak.
As for Ramirez, his 'push' was nothing compared to the contact made with him in the first half in the Arsenal area. Consistent? I think not!
Meribelsaint
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12:30am Wed 2 Jan 13
Clever Dick wrote:Shocking decision, never a foul. Still it's a good performance by the boys and a good point too.
saintshorse101 wrote:Just watched it on MOTD. Minimal contact. 99 times out of a hundred that is not a free kick. Save it for the Villa Gaston.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:come on osprey, you cant really think that was a foul can you? he touched him no push, if he was pushed then why did he still manage to make an effort to head the ball and still fall backwards? if that is now seen as a freekick offence by the officials then the games gone to the wall. i get fed up with the experts on tv calling every slight touch a foul. bale dived again the other day and rightly got booked, yet on motd they said there was contact and so he should have gone down! should have gone down! easy way to deal with the divers though, if caught diving by the ref or panel then they get a 3 game ban!
The 2nd "goal" was not disallowed for off side, it was for contact by Rambo on the defender, harsh because he had been on the receiving end of much worse treatment himself, but the Lino called it right.
COYR
Strasbourg Saint
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12:33am Wed 2 Jan 13
Strasbourg Saint wrote:The **** reads: C-U-M
saintshorse101 wrote:This all shows how hard it can be for refs, fans and TV pundit-****-d!ckhead
Clever Dick wrote:osprey i never said that bale wasnt contacted, however the contact he got was minimal and didnt cause him to drag his leg in the hope of contact there. i dont care how fast you are running slight contact on your knee will not cause you to `dive` forwards. contact like that would have thrown him sideways. i remember the days of razor, hurlock steve williams and mark dennis, they all made hard and mostly fair tackles, though sometimes rightly booked or sent off, i can still see dennis making a two footed waist high challenge and prostesting his red card, anyway can you imagine any of those players expecting to get the gaston foul? or their reaction to bale going down like he did? players rarley went down like that back in those days so why now? simple answer they are told any and that means any contact is deemed to be a foul, and that cant be right.
saintshorse101 wrote:Just watched it on MOTD. Minimal contact. 99 times out of a hundred that is not a free kick. Save it for the Villa Gaston.OSPREYSAINT wrote: The 2nd "goal" was not disallowed for off side, it was for contact by Rambo on the defender, harsh because he had been on the receiving end of much worse treatment himself, but the Lino called it right.come on osprey, you cant really think that was a foul can you? he touched him no push, if he was pushed then why did he still manage to make an effort to head the ball and still fall backwards? if that is now seen as a freekick offence by the officials then the games gone to the wall. i get fed up with the experts on tv calling every slight touch a foul. bale dived again the other day and rightly got booked, yet on motd they said there was contact and so he should have gone down! should have gone down! easy way to deal with the divers though, if caught diving by the ref or panel then they get a 3 game ban!
s like Lawrenson. All I ask for is consistency and wish that the old adage that it 'evens itself out over the season' were true. But it isn't, the big four (or five) will always get more of the breaks.
Take the Yosh pen today. It looked remarkably similar to the one awarded to Man City when Jos was penalised. Only difference being that Tevez (I think it was him, wasn't it?) deliberately put himself between the ball and Jos, where as today, Yosh was 'nutted' so to speak.
As for Ramirez, his 'push' was nothing compared to the contact made with him in the first half in the Arsenal area. Consistent? I think not!
tits, bum$ and ars-e-nal to the DE sensor!
Strasbourg Saint
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12:34am Wed 2 Jan 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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12:43am Wed 2 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT
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1:32am Wed 2 Jan 13
saintshorse101 wrote:My opinion was formed by looking at the replay several times from different angles, the Referee has just one chance to make an instant decision, and having made it, it has to be final as any technolgy available isn't permitted to allow anyone to dispute it.
Clever Dick wrote:osprey i never said that bale wasnt contacted, however the contact he got was minimal and didnt cause him to drag his leg in the hope of contact there. i dont care how fast you are running slight contact on your knee will not cause you to `dive` forwards. contact like that would have thrown him sideways. i remember the days of razor, hurlock steve williams and mark dennis, they all made hard and mostly fair tackles, though sometimes rightly booked or sent off, i can still see dennis making a two footed waist high challenge and prostesting his red card, anyway can you imagine any of those players expecting to get the gaston foul? or their reaction to bale going down like he did? players rarley went down like that back in those days so why now? simple answer they are told any and that means any contact is deemed to be a foul, and that cant be right.
saintshorse101 wrote:Just watched it on MOTD. Minimal contact. 99 times out of a hundred that is not a free kick. Save it for the Villa Gaston.OSPREYSAINT wrote: The 2nd "goal" was not disallowed for off side, it was for contact by Rambo on the defender, harsh because he had been on the receiving end of much worse treatment himself, but the Lino called it right.come on osprey, you cant really think that was a foul can you? he touched him no push, if he was pushed then why did he still manage to make an effort to head the ball and still fall backwards? if that is now seen as a freekick offence by the officials then the games gone to the wall. i get fed up with the experts on tv calling every slight touch a foul. bale dived again the other day and rightly got booked, yet on motd they said there was contact and so he should have gone down! should have gone down! easy way to deal with the divers though, if caught diving by the ref or panel then they get a 3 game ban!
st1halo
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2:10am Wed 2 Jan 13
Villa - a must win game!
Well done Nigel and the lads.
STID
hedge end bob
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3:28am Wed 2 Jan 13
Still not sure about the goalie, seen him three times now and to me he dont instill confidence. He's got jelly fingers, poor eyesight ( cant see the touch lines from the penalty area,) and dont seem all that fit. IMO.
Lets warm up against chelski and really turn up at the VILLA . Another 4-1 would be nice.
Wel played SAINTS, BUT YOU WILL NEVER EVER PLEASE EVERYBODY.IMO.
just kidding
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3:54am Wed 2 Jan 13
petethephantom
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7:59am Wed 2 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill wrote:G'day all from sydney oz
I bumped into Valleity in the boozer after the game...he'd taken a relative to the game...a Gooner who thought one "Guly Do Prado" was the best player on the pitch tonight.
...it's interesting to get independent views sometimes rather than the same old same old.
got up at 330am and watched the game in which i thought was fantastic
for me the MOM was puncheon, but i also was one whom worried about guly thought he was tied in second for MOM with young shaw........
I am very worried about the goalie.... still prefer kelvin to something better comes, and Yoshida is another worry for me but he did clear that dangerous cross and basically saved a goal and the match.
C O Y R
just working out finances and can if i can get 2 weeks off work to fly over like last year V coventry to see if i can do it this year and see saints play live rather than 3am in the morning. At least the 8pm kick offs are 7 am sydney time....... and then again we will win the ashes over there tis year and back here as well later this year...
The Music Man says...
8:19pm Tue 1 Jan 13