Adkins defends J-Rod over diving accusations (From Daily Echo)

Rednose says...
6:28pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Absolutely agree over the season so far we are still owed more than we've been given. So although initially embarrassed I happy. Well done JRod if you hadn't taken the leg away could have had it broken. Big win COYR.

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Jonah127 says...
6:38pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.

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One Heart....One Vision says...
6:42pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Jay is not a diver....it's just the media hype and the Wet Spam reporters. Like NA has said he'd have been crocked by the defender otherwise. We see certain top four teams diving more than Tom Daley don't we.

Great Win...Well deserved.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
6:52pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.

NA said on record he doesn't tolerate diving and his players know that, people at the time watching on stream said that JRod just got his feet in a tangle, wasn't an intentional dive at all, just have to watch later, but the fact we actually got a decision is a miracle in the first place. Maybe Chris Foy the original selected Referee would not have given it, such is fate.

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SaintinCanada says...
6:52pm Sat 12 Jan 13

OK - a decision went our way for a change.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
6:57pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Was reading the report on BBC Sport News and at first it said "blatant dive", this has now been changed to "controversial decision"! Element of doubt or has the reporter had his wrists slapped?

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Velleity says...
7:03pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.

Interesting - your first EVER post on the Daily Echo site.

I smell a WUM...

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Five Trophies Between Us says...
7:07pm Sat 12 Jan 13

he didnt touch me. but i didnt dive

CHEATER. CHEATER CHEATER

the only way ur small club will stay up this yr. cheating stadium, cheating players. fairy fans

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J7junctionseven says...
7:07pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Velleity wrote:

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.
Interesting - your first EVER post on the Daily Echo site.

I smell a WUM...

With a name like jonah it's definately got a fishy aroma about it

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City Saint says...
7:10pm Sat 12 Jan 13

We've been denied a dozen legit penalties at home this season. We might have been given one we shouldn't have today; we'll know more after motd.

I would still prefer that the calls were right, all the time. We'd have had more penalties, as a fair team, and probably have won more games, too.

There's no way to reasonably expect refs to always get it right these days, the game is too fast and the divers are too clever, which leads to second- and third-guessing by refs.

So bring on harsher punishments for clear simulation, and lets start getting some support for the refs with technology. Goal-line cameras for tough goal decisions, and up to three challenges a game for each team on fouls and other decisions where video replay can be studied.

The purists will say no. But football is always evolving (I still remember taking more than three steps while holding the ball was a no-no for keepers, and the game is better for ditching that). Time to move on for video support, too.

Saints would be winners in such an environment. No matter what jrod did today, we play the game right under Adkins.

Well done on the three points, saints.

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J7junctionseven says...
7:11pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Bingo....and then another charity robber turns up....priceless

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mack chinnon says...
7:14pm Sat 12 Jan 13

I thought we were fcuking fantastic today.
Worried about Shaw.
Wish i,d gone.

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mack chinnon says...
7:17pm Sat 12 Jan 13

P.S. Come on Scunny.

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Clever Dick says...
7:18pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Oh dear some very upset Skunts on here tonite accusing us of cheating. LMFAO. PS I'm not biassed but it was a clear cut pen...........and I havn't even see it yet!!

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One Heart....One Vision says...
7:18pm Sat 12 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Was reading the report on BBC Sport News and at first it said "blatant dive", this has now been changed to "controversial decision"! Element of doubt or has the reporter had his wrists slapped?

perhaps the headline was written by a Wet Spam journo miffed cos they lost?

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Rednose says...
7:19pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.

Wind your neck in fella!! The problem with football is far more complicated than players protecting themselves / taking a dive. No manager will admit that their player is a diver! in the olden days footballs were heavier, the game slower, leg breaking tackles accepted and careers ended abruptly. So you're wrong fella the problem with the modern game and the root of all evil is money not incidents like this. Think what you want our man would have been injured if he hadn't moved his leg. He didn't appeal as far as I could see, so the decisions was the ref's. One injury was enough today, get well soon Luke Shaw. So a vital win today well done for keeping calm and carrying on :-). Or is that so 2012. COYR

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J7junctionseven says...
7:20pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Anyone know any good groundsmen?

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slugger says...
7:21pm Sat 12 Jan 13

mack chinnon wrote:
I thought we were fcuking fantastic today.
Worried about Shaw.
Wish i,d gone.

The points are what matter , we got 3 more today by hook or by crook....... at the end of the day we deserved them and nobody can take them away ......... COYR !

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Costa Baz says...
7:21pm Sat 12 Jan 13

J.Rod pulled his leg out of the way, instead of looking for a penalty. Bit naive really but makes a change to get a non penalty given in our favour.

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City Saint says...
7:21pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

City Saint wrote:
We've been denied a dozen legit penalties at home this season. We might have been given one we shouldn't have today; we'll know more after motd. I would still prefer that the calls were right, all the time. We'd have had more penalties, as a fair team, and probably have won more games, too. There's no way to reasonably expect refs to always get it right these days, the game is too fast and the divers are too clever, which leads to second- and third-guessing by refs. So bring on harsher punishments for clear simulation, and lets start getting some support for the refs with technology. Goal-line cameras for tough goal decisions, and up to three challenges a game for each team on fouls and other decisions where video replay can be studied. The purists will say no. But football is always evolving (I still remember taking more than three steps while holding the ball was a no-no for keepers, and the game is better for ditching that). Time to move on for video support, too. Saints would be winners in such an environment. No matter what jrod did today, we play the game right under Adkins. Well done on the three points, saints.
y not justify ur CHEATING player. stains = dirty club = no morality

Lol. Sorry, pot, kettle , black wouldn't even start to describe fully the irony of a p*mpey fan casting judgment on a saints player. Your club has been revealed as the single most crooked team in football for more than a decade.

Come back when you've been reborn as a non-league side with your record cleansed by liquidation, mate.

I doubt you'll last a season without more scandals as afc portsmouth.

There's no escaping your roots, after all.

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Velleity says...
7:22pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

City Saint wrote:
We've been denied a dozen legit penalties at home this season. We might have been given one we shouldn't have today; we'll know more after motd. I would still prefer that the calls were right, all the time. We'd have had more penalties, as a fair team, and probably have won more games, too. There's no way to reasonably expect refs to always get it right these days, the game is too fast and the divers are too clever, which leads to second- and third-guessing by refs. So bring on harsher punishments for clear simulation, and lets start getting some support for the refs with technology. Goal-line cameras for tough goal decisions, and up to three challenges a game for each team on fouls and other decisions where video replay can be studied. The purists will say no. But football is always evolving (I still remember taking more than three steps while holding the ball was a no-no for keepers, and the game is better for ditching that). Time to move on for video support, too. Saints would be winners in such an environment. No matter what jrod did today, we play the game right under Adkins. Well done on the three points, saints.
y not justify ur CHEATING player. stains = dirty club = no morality

Sssshhh!

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Strasbourg Saint says...
7:25pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.

.... and you are?

If you're an unhappy Villa fan then here's my honest assessment having watched a live stream and listened to Nigel's interview.
1. There's doubt as to whether the pen was given for THAT tackle anyway. Some suggest it might have been for a foul on Puncheon by Guzen. If so, Nigel has already said it wasn't a foul and I agree.
2. Assuming, however, that it was given for the challenge on Rodriguez, what Nigel is saying makes some sense. I posted earlier that had Rodriguez not moved his right leg back, he would probably have been caught anyway.
3. However, I also posted that I thought (and I still think) that Rodriguez dived. His leg came back, his body fell forwards and the timing was exactly as the mis-timed tackle came in. However, there's huge doubt about that. I could be wrong. So those suggesting Rodriguez should face a punishment for deliberate diving are plain dumb. (Lineker, have you apologised yet?) Rodriguez may well have fallen simply because of his momentum.
4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul. I remember an example when Thierry Henry, playing for Arsenal against Saints, was about to be tackled by a Saints' player (Chris Marsden). Marsden lunged two-footed towards the ball (not the player), but the ball was just in front of Henry, who then dragged the ball back towards himself and jumped backwards with the ball. Thus, Marsden didn't make contact with either the ball or the player and ended up looking a bit silly jumping two footed towards what was the turf between himself and the ball. However, a foul was given and Marsden saw red for dangerous play.

I can understand why Villa fans feel hard done by today but how about the countless late challenges by Villa players (esp. in the second half) which gave away the initiative on many occasions? Example? The one which left Shaw on a stretcher. It was hard to see if there was any intent, but the player did nothing to avoid following through on Shaw, yet play carried on and was only stopped (to Villa's annoyance) when it was clear Shaw was in trouble. On another occasion (maybe first half) Ramirez went for a lose, knee-high ball, won it and a Villa player simply followed through into Ramirez's foot. No foul given! So, don’t blame Halsey for losing, he did all he could to help you.

If you are a Villa fan, I'd stop moaning and start focussing on how you'll keep hold of your 'stars' when you go down.

[quote][p][bold]Jonah127[/bold] wrote: Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football. His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it. Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.[/p][/quote].... and you are? If you're an unhappy Villa fan then here's my honest assessment having watched a live stream and listened to Nigel's interview. 1. There's doubt as to whether the pen was given for THAT tackle anyway. Some suggest it might have been for a foul on Puncheon by Guzen. If so, Nigel has already said it wasn't a foul and I agree. 2. Assuming, however, that it was given for the challenge on Rodriguez, what Nigel is saying makes some sense. I posted earlier that had Rodriguez not moved his right leg back, he would probably have been caught anyway. 3. However, I also posted that I thought (and I still think) that Rodriguez dived. His leg came back, his body fell forwards and the timing was exactly as the mis-timed tackle came in. However, there's huge doubt about that. I could be wrong. So those suggesting Rodriguez should face a punishment for deliberate diving are plain dumb. (Lineker, have you apologised yet?) Rodriguez may well have fallen simply because of his momentum. 4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul. I remember an example when Thierry Henry, playing for Arsenal against Saints, was about to be tackled by a Saints' player (Chris Marsden). Marsden lunged two-footed towards the ball (not the player), but the ball was just in front of Henry, who then dragged the ball back towards himself and jumped backwards with the ball. Thus, Marsden didn't make contact with either the ball or the player and ended up looking a bit silly jumping two footed towards what was the turf between himself and the ball. However, a foul was given and Marsden saw red for dangerous play. I can understand why Villa fans feel hard done by today but how about the countless late challenges by Villa players (esp. in the second half) which gave away the initiative on many occasions? Example? The one which left Shaw on a stretcher. It was hard to see if there was any intent, but the player did nothing to avoid following through on Shaw, yet play carried on and was only stopped (to Villa's annoyance) when it was clear Shaw was in trouble. On another occasion (maybe first half) Ramirez went for a lose, knee-high ball, won it and a Villa player simply followed through into Ramirez's foot. No foul given! So, don’t blame Halsey for losing, he did all he could to help you. If you are a Villa fan, I'd stop moaning and start focussing on how you'll keep hold of your 'stars' when you go down. Strasbourg Saint

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J7junctionseven says...
7:25pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Clever Dick wrote:
Oh dear some very upset Skunts on here tonite accusing us of cheating. LMFAO. PS I'm not biassed but it was a clear cut pen...........and I havn't even see it yet!!

...and one particularly annoying skunt who needs reminding about the disgrace that is pfc who are the most hated and corrupt bunch of cheats ever.

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mack chinnon says...
7:26pm Sat 12 Jan 13

slugger wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:
I thought we were fcuking fantastic today.
Worried about Shaw.
Wish i,d gone.
The points are what matter , we got 3 more today by hook or by crook....... at the end of the day we deserved them and nobody can take them away ......... COYR !

You aint kidding we deserved them. Solid looking team.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
7:27pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Clever Dick wrote:
Oh dear some very upset Skunts on here tonite accusing us of cheating. LMFAO. PS I'm not biassed but it was a clear cut pen...........and I havn't even see it yet!!

Lambo said he thought it was a stonewall penalty and that is good enough for me.

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Velleity says...
7:28pm Sat 12 Jan 13

City Saint wrote:
We've been denied a dozen legit penalties at home this season. We might have been given one we shouldn't have today; we'll know more after motd.

I would still prefer that the calls were right, all the time. We'd have had more penalties, as a fair team, and probably have won more games, too.

There's no way to reasonably expect refs to always get it right these days, the game is too fast and the divers are too clever, which leads to second- and third-guessing by refs.

So bring on harsher punishments for clear simulation, and lets start getting some support for the refs with technology. Goal-line cameras for tough goal decisions, and up to three challenges a game for each team on fouls and other decisions where video replay can be studied.

The purists will say no. But football is always evolving (I still remember taking more than three steps while holding the ball was a no-no for keepers, and the game is better for ditching that). Time to move on for video support, too.

Saints would be winners in such an environment. No matter what jrod did today, we play the game right under Adkins.

Well done on the three points, saints.

I disagree so much with the idea of technology being used in footy, I'm afraid. I'm even against goal-line technology.

The rules of the game should be exactly the same for my eleven year old son as for the World Cup final.

People used to be mature enough to accept that you win some, you lose some. We missed three points against Arsenal when Gaston's goal was disallowed; we gained three points against Villa. That's the way it is. It balances out over a season.

The TV pundits could help by trying not to analyses every single decision from fourteen camera angles. It can't possibly do any good and erodes trust in the officials.

Also, there's a rule to cover this: the ref's decision is final. Thus, it WAS a penalty, just as Ramirez's "goal" last week wasn't a goal.

[quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: We've been denied a dozen legit penalties at home this season. We might have been given one we shouldn't have today; we'll know more after motd. I would still prefer that the calls were right, all the time. We'd have had more penalties, as a fair team, and probably have won more games, too. There's no way to reasonably expect refs to always get it right these days, the game is too fast and the divers are too clever, which leads to second- and third-guessing by refs. So bring on harsher punishments for clear simulation, and lets start getting some support for the refs with technology. Goal-line cameras for tough goal decisions, and up to three challenges a game for each team on fouls and other decisions where video replay can be studied. The purists will say no. But football is always evolving (I still remember taking more than three steps while holding the ball was a no-no for keepers, and the game is better for ditching that). Time to move on for video support, too. Saints would be winners in such an environment. No matter what jrod did today, we play the game right under Adkins. Well done on the three points, saints.[/p][/quote]I disagree so much with the idea of technology being used in footy, I'm afraid. I'm even against goal-line technology. The rules of the game should be exactly the same for my eleven year old son as for the World Cup final. People used to be mature enough to accept that you win some, you lose some. We missed three points against Arsenal when Gaston's goal was disallowed; we gained three points against Villa. That's the way it is. It balances out over a season. The TV pundits could help by trying not to analyses every single decision from fourteen camera angles. It can't possibly do any good and erodes trust in the officials. Also, there's a rule to cover this: the ref's decision is final. Thus, it WAS a penalty, just as Ramirez's "goal" last week wasn't a goal. Velleity

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Costa Baz says...
7:28pm Sat 12 Jan 13

On another topic, anyone else take exception at Tony Cottee's comments on Sky about players feigning injury, just before Shaw was stretchered off. Didn't have the decency to admit he had called it wrong.

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Clever Dick says...
7:29pm Sat 12 Jan 13

It's good news week
Rickies scored a goal somewhere
Creating a great atmosphere
Now we are climbing high

It's good news week
The judge is folding sh-te Pompey
A team nobody wants to see
Now that their end is nigh

Have u heard the news
Wat did it say?
We've won again
Won't hear from the Skunts today

It's good news week
Skunts are finding pathetic ways
To stop us getting all the praise
But we know we're the best

It's good news week
Sh-te are in the bottom 2
**** off the bluer few
It's Saints that rule the south

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MGRA says...
7:33pm Sat 12 Jan 13

There is a difference between cheating ( Gareth Bale , Suarez , Cole etc etc ) and evading a tackle to stop contact. The later is not pre-thought, the split second decision is "I am not going to be crocked".. this is different from Bale-and-co who plan their cheating carefully before hand and actually hone the skills to con the referee. Only people who really know the game of football and have played for some years will know what I am talking about. What happened today was dubious as to whether technically it was a penalty but it was not pre-meditated cheating....

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OSPREYSAINT says...
7:33pm Sat 12 Jan 13

4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul.

That is a reasonable argument but few would agree, and I have heard it said by a Referee in the past, that a foul was given for intent, whether actual contact had been made was not the problem. I would rather that there was actual contact, no one could argue about it then.

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pompey in spain says...
7:36pm Sat 12 Jan 13

reporting in;just got in a pub after the goal today, so cant comment on it.but if any of you lot think you deserved that youre aving a laff .sitting with some of my mates,sorry associates,i said i got 50 euros youll lose ....not one of 5 s**mmers offered to take the bet! with 35 minutes to go!!! basically you were just that little bit less sh**tier than villa.you are in trouble if you dont get some players in.

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Velleity says...
7:37pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:
We've been denied a dozen legit penalties at home this season. We might have been given one we shouldn't have today; we'll know more after motd.

I would still prefer that the calls were right, all the time. We'd have had more penalties, as a fair team, and probably have won more games, too.

There's no way to reasonably expect refs to always get it right these days, the game is too fast and the divers are too clever, which leads to second- and third-guessing by refs.

So bring on harsher punishments for clear simulation, and lets start getting some support for the refs with technology. Goal-line cameras for tough goal decisions, and up to three challenges a game for each team on fouls and other decisions where video replay can be studied.

The purists will say no. But football is always evolving (I still remember taking more than three steps while holding the ball was a no-no for keepers, and the game is better for ditching that). Time to move on for video support, too.

Saints would be winners in such an environment. No matter what jrod did today, we play the game right under Adkins.

Well done on the three points, saints.
I disagree so much with the idea of technology being used in footy, I'm afraid. I'm even against goal-line technology.

The rules of the game should be exactly the same for my eleven year old son as for the World Cup final.

People used to be mature enough to accept that you win some, you lose some. We missed three points against Arsenal when Gaston's goal was disallowed; we gained three points against Villa. That's the way it is. It balances out over a season.

The TV pundits could help by trying not to analyses every single decision from fourteen camera angles. It can't possibly do any good and erodes trust in the officials.

Also, there's a rule to cover this: the ref's decision is final. Thus, it WAS a penalty, just as Ramirez's "goal" last week wasn't a goal.

Sorry City Saint, looks like an attack on you - didn't mean to quote you - it was just a general point.

[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: We've been denied a dozen legit penalties at home this season. We might have been given one we shouldn't have today; we'll know more after motd. I would still prefer that the calls were right, all the time. We'd have had more penalties, as a fair team, and probably have won more games, too. There's no way to reasonably expect refs to always get it right these days, the game is too fast and the divers are too clever, which leads to second- and third-guessing by refs. So bring on harsher punishments for clear simulation, and lets start getting some support for the refs with technology. Goal-line cameras for tough goal decisions, and up to three challenges a game for each team on fouls and other decisions where video replay can be studied. The purists will say no. But football is always evolving (I still remember taking more than three steps while holding the ball was a no-no for keepers, and the game is better for ditching that). Time to move on for video support, too. Saints would be winners in such an environment. No matter what jrod did today, we play the game right under Adkins. Well done on the three points, saints.[/p][/quote]I disagree so much with the idea of technology being used in footy, I'm afraid. I'm even against goal-line technology. The rules of the game should be exactly the same for my eleven year old son as for the World Cup final. People used to be mature enough to accept that you win some, you lose some. We missed three points against Arsenal when Gaston's goal was disallowed; we gained three points against Villa. That's the way it is. It balances out over a season. The TV pundits could help by trying not to analyses every single decision from fourteen camera angles. It can't possibly do any good and erodes trust in the officials. Also, there's a rule to cover this: the ref's decision is final. Thus, it WAS a penalty, just as Ramirez's "goal" last week wasn't a goal.[/p][/quote]Sorry City Saint, looks like an attack on you - didn't mean to quote you - it was just a general point. Velleity

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Five Trophies Between Us says...
7:37pm Sat 12 Jan 13

u need some pedigree 2 rule. stains have none. haha

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slugger says...
7:37pm Sat 12 Jan 13

I think Jay dived and i'm not about to defend it ......... we got 3 precious points at the end of the day .

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BP says...
7:39pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
he didnt touch me. but i didnt dive

CHEATER. CHEATER CHEATER

the only way ur small club will stay up this yr. cheating stadium, cheating players. fairy fans

Haha. Bless you little man.
You're very bitter.
Does your little football upset you so much?
I bet you punch your keyboard when we superior people make you look a t**t?
Bless you!

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Clever Dick says...
7:40pm Sat 12 Jan 13

So a clean sheet.....that mite shut up the Boruc knockers and the Hoover knockers. And J-Rod got the stone wall pen. That mite shut up his knockers too. Be interested to hear about individual displays from someone who went to the match cos I don't do away games.

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Strasbourg Saint says...
7:41pm Sat 12 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul.

That is a reasonable argument but few would agree, and I have heard it said by a Referee in the past, that a foul was given for intent, whether actual contact had been made was not the problem. I would rather that there was actual contact, no one could argue about it then.

So, if a player lunges karate style through the air aiming his studs at an opponent's head but misses, it's okay?

I think many would find that sort of challenge acceptable, Osprey.

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Norwegian Saint says...
7:45pm Sat 12 Jan 13

TO ALL MY FELLOW SAINTS FANS....
Sorry for the delay... in a cabin somewhere in Norway with very crap tinternet.... here goes....

HRH Prince William
PM David Cameron
Tom Hanks
Martin Shaw (actor)
Mark Williams (actor - you might have seen him in Harry Potter! and comedian from the Fast Show)
Brendan Gleeson, (actor, appeared in Braveheart, Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, 28 Days Later, Gangs of New York, Harry Potter films, AI...)
David Bradley (actor, Harry Potter, other films, tv and stage)
Oliver Phelps (actor, twin from Harry Potter)
Pauline McLynn (actress. Played Mrs. Doyle in 'Father Ted')
Ian Lavender (actor, best know as Private Pike in Dads Army)
Chris Marshall - My Family (the tall one), BT ads etc
Jim Hacker, best known as the Prime Minister in TV and Radio Series; Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister.
David Moran, ex-Crossroads actor.
Nessa (Ruth Jones) from Gavin & Stacey!!!!!! (Yes we know Nessa was a fictional character!)
If we're going to go with fictional characters, Lenny Godber from Porridge!
Black Sabbath members Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler, Tony Iomi
Brian Travers (UB40)
Several members of bands Duran Duran
Several members of Ocean Colour Scene
Nigel Kennedy (violinist)
Chris Storr (plays trumpet in the Jools Holland Band)
Several members of Napalm Death including lead singer Barney
Scott Gorham original Thin Lizzy guitarist
Amy Winehouse (was seen with Villa badges on a necklace, not sure if that makes her a fan or...?)
Dr Carl Chinn MBE (local historian, tv and radio presenter)
Jonny Gould, (media radio/tv broadcaster and commentator)
Emma B (radio1 presenter)
Professor and guardian columnist Marcel Berlins.
Vassos Alexander and Phil Williams (both radio 5 live announcers)
Matthew Bannister (radio 5 live?)
Emma Willis (was Griffiths), MTV presenter and model
Pete Colley - Sky Sports reporter
Floella Benjamin 80's TV Presenter
Radio Highveld DJ Brad Brown
Ian Bell (Warwickshire and England cricketer)
Joe Calzaghe - former World boxing Champ
Jim Lewis (owner of the late great Villa fan Best Mate)
Lee Sharpe (?) ex Man Utd
Jane Sixsmith (England Olympic hockey player)
Justin Rose - Golfer
Tom Parsons - high jumper
Craig Kieswetter, Somerset/England cricketer
Howard Hodgson (presenter, author, including best seller Six Feet Under)
Benjamin Zepphaniah (poet)
Jacqui Smith former MP for Redditch and former Home Secretary
Trade Union leader Bill Morris
Lord John Taylor (once briefly in the news when controversially deselected as a black Tory election candidate (Cheltenham, IIRC), also had a brief TV career as a 'legal eagle')
Sir Digby Jones, ex head of the CBI
Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England
Lee Child. (Author of books in the Pulp Fiction genre specifically know for his series of Jack Reacher books)

YOUR BOYS TOOK ONE HELL OF A BEATING... ANOTHER HELLLLLLL OF A BEATING!!!!!!

TO ALL MY FELLOW SAINTS FANS.... Sorry for the delay... in a cabin somewhere in Norway with very crap tinternet.... here goes.... HRH Prince William PM David Cameron Tom Hanks Martin Shaw (actor) Mark Williams (actor - you might have seen him in Harry Potter! and comedian from the Fast Show) Brendan Gleeson, (actor, appeared in Braveheart, Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, 28 Days Later, Gangs of New York, Harry Potter films, AI...) David Bradley (actor, Harry Potter, other films, tv and stage) Oliver Phelps (actor, twin from Harry Potter) Pauline McLynn (actress. Played Mrs. Doyle in 'Father Ted') Ian Lavender (actor, best know as Private Pike in Dads Army) Chris Marshall - My Family (the tall one), BT ads etc Jim Hacker, best known as the Prime Minister in TV and Radio Series; Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister. David Moran, ex-Crossroads actor. Nessa (Ruth Jones) from Gavin & Stacey!!!!!! (Yes we know Nessa was a fictional character!) If we're going to go with fictional characters, Lenny Godber from Porridge! Black Sabbath members Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler, Tony Iomi Brian Travers (UB40) Several members of bands Duran Duran Several members of Ocean Colour Scene Nigel Kennedy (violinist) Chris Storr (plays trumpet in the Jools Holland Band) Several members of Napalm Death including lead singer Barney Scott Gorham original Thin Lizzy guitarist Amy Winehouse (was seen with Villa badges on a necklace, not sure if that makes her a fan or...?) Dr Carl Chinn MBE (local historian, tv and radio presenter) Jonny Gould, (media radio/tv broadcaster and commentator) Emma B (radio1 presenter) Professor and guardian columnist Marcel Berlins. Vassos Alexander and Phil Williams (both radio 5 live announcers) Matthew Bannister (radio 5 live?) Emma Willis (was Griffiths), MTV presenter and model Pete Colley - Sky Sports reporter Floella Benjamin 80's TV Presenter Radio Highveld DJ Brad Brown Ian Bell (Warwickshire and England cricketer) Joe Calzaghe - former World boxing Champ Jim Lewis (owner of the late great Villa fan Best Mate) Lee Sharpe (?) ex Man Utd Jane Sixsmith (England Olympic hockey player) Justin Rose - Golfer Tom Parsons - high jumper Craig Kieswetter, Somerset/England cricketer Howard Hodgson (presenter, author, including best seller Six Feet Under) Benjamin Zepphaniah (poet) Jacqui Smith former MP for Redditch and former Home Secretary Trade Union leader Bill Morris Lord John Taylor (once briefly in the news when controversially deselected as a black Tory election candidate (Cheltenham, IIRC), also had a brief TV career as a 'legal eagle') Sir Digby Jones, ex head of the CBI Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England Lee Child. (Author of books in the Pulp Fiction genre specifically know for his series of Jack Reacher books) YOUR BOYS TOOK ONE HELL OF A BEATING... ANOTHER HELLLLLLL OF A BEATING!!!!!! Norwegian Saint

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Strasbourg Saint says...
7:45pm Sat 12 Jan 13

slugger wrote:
I think Jay dived and i'm not about to defend it ......... we got 3 precious points at the end of the day .

Me, too, but there's huge doubt, Slugger.

Anyway, the fact is, it was Guly's fault that Jay went down. You know it, I know it, we all know it.

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mack chinnon says...
7:46pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.

Did you come here to die,
or did you come here yester die.

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Clever Dick says...
7:46pm Sat 12 Jan 13

BP wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
he didnt touch me. but i didnt dive

CHEATER. CHEATER CHEATER

the only way ur small club will stay up this yr. cheating stadium, cheating players. fairy fans
Haha. Bless you little man.
You're very bitter.
Does your little football upset you so much?
I bet you punch your keyboard when we superior people make you look a t**t?
Bless you!

AKA £200000000 between us.
Probably best to do the SHHHHHH on this one. Just sit back and .have a beer and imagine how upset and angry he is tonite. I hope he keeps posting though. I find his bitterness jealousy and anger extremely amusing.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
7:46pm Sat 12 Jan 13

If tweets about the Referees comments are to be believed the Penalty was given for Guzans tackle on Puncheon so any diving allegations are null and void, but that didn't look any more of a Penalty than the JRod tackle! Perhaps that was what Lambo was claiming?

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J7junctionseven says...
7:46pm Sat 12 Jan 13

I'm so glad we're not a little bit less sh**tier than Bury....

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pompey in spain says...
7:50pm Sat 12 Jan 13

norge saint.......you got far to much time on your hands babes!!!

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pompey in spain says...
7:51pm Sat 12 Jan 13

very funny though norge!!

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OSPREYSAINT says...
7:53pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Norwegian Saint wrote:
TO ALL MY FELLOW SAINTS FANS....
Sorry for the delay... in a cabin somewhere in Norway with very crap tinternet.... here goes....

HRH Prince William
PM David Cameron
Tom Hanks
Martin Shaw (actor)
Mark Williams (actor - you might have seen him in Harry Potter! and comedian from the Fast Show)
Brendan Gleeson, (actor, appeared in Braveheart, Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, 28 Days Later, Gangs of New York, Harry Potter films, AI...)
David Bradley (actor, Harry Potter, other films, tv and stage)
Oliver Phelps (actor, twin from Harry Potter)
Pauline McLynn (actress. Played Mrs. Doyle in 'Father Ted')
Ian Lavender (actor, best know as Private Pike in Dads Army)
Chris Marshall - My Family (the tall one), BT ads etc
Jim Hacker, best known as the Prime Minister in TV and Radio Series; Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister.
David Moran, ex-Crossroads actor.
Nessa (Ruth Jones) from Gavin & Stacey!!!!!! (Yes we know Nessa was a fictional character!)
If we're going to go with fictional characters, Lenny Godber from Porridge!
Black Sabbath members Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler, Tony Iomi
Brian Travers (UB40)
Several members of bands Duran Duran
Several members of Ocean Colour Scene
Nigel Kennedy (violinist)
Chris Storr (plays trumpet in the Jools Holland Band)
Several members of Napalm Death including lead singer Barney
Scott Gorham original Thin Lizzy guitarist
Amy Winehouse (was seen with Villa badges on a necklace, not sure if that makes her a fan or...?)
Dr Carl Chinn MBE (local historian, tv and radio presenter)
Jonny Gould, (media radio/tv broadcaster and commentator)
Emma B (radio1 presenter)
Professor and guardian columnist Marcel Berlins.
Vassos Alexander and Phil Williams (both radio 5 live announcers)
Matthew Bannister (radio 5 live?)
Emma Willis (was Griffiths), MTV presenter and model
Pete Colley - Sky Sports reporter
Floella Benjamin 80's TV Presenter
Radio Highveld DJ Brad Brown
Ian Bell (Warwickshire and England cricketer)
Joe Calzaghe - former World boxing Champ
Jim Lewis (owner of the late great Villa fan Best Mate)
Lee Sharpe (?) ex Man Utd
Jane Sixsmith (England Olympic hockey player)
Justin Rose - Golfer
Tom Parsons - high jumper
Craig Kieswetter, Somerset/England cricketer
Howard Hodgson (presenter, author, including best seller Six Feet Under)
Benjamin Zepphaniah (poet)
Jacqui Smith former MP for Redditch and former Home Secretary
Trade Union leader Bill Morris
Lord John Taylor (once briefly in the news when controversially deselected as a black Tory election candidate (Cheltenham, IIRC), also had a brief TV career as a 'legal eagle')
Sir Digby Jones, ex head of the CBI
Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England
Lee Child. (Author of books in the Pulp Fiction genre specifically know for his series of Jack Reacher books)

YOUR BOYS TOOK ONE HELL OF A BEATING... ANOTHER HELLLLLLL OF A BEATING!!!!!!

I can see why it took so long now!

[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: TO ALL MY FELLOW SAINTS FANS.... Sorry for the delay... in a cabin somewhere in Norway with very crap tinternet.... here goes.... HRH Prince William PM David Cameron Tom Hanks Martin Shaw (actor) Mark Williams (actor - you might have seen him in Harry Potter! and comedian from the Fast Show) Brendan Gleeson, (actor, appeared in Braveheart, Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, 28 Days Later, Gangs of New York, Harry Potter films, AI...) David Bradley (actor, Harry Potter, other films, tv and stage) Oliver Phelps (actor, twin from Harry Potter) Pauline McLynn (actress. Played Mrs. Doyle in 'Father Ted') Ian Lavender (actor, best know as Private Pike in Dads Army) Chris Marshall - My Family (the tall one), BT ads etc Jim Hacker, best known as the Prime Minister in TV and Radio Series; Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister. David Moran, ex-Crossroads actor. Nessa (Ruth Jones) from Gavin & Stacey!!!!!! (Yes we know Nessa was a fictional character!) If we're going to go with fictional characters, Lenny Godber from Porridge! Black Sabbath members Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler, Tony Iomi Brian Travers (UB40) Several members of bands Duran Duran Several members of Ocean Colour Scene Nigel Kennedy (violinist) Chris Storr (plays trumpet in the Jools Holland Band) Several members of Napalm Death including lead singer Barney Scott Gorham original Thin Lizzy guitarist Amy Winehouse (was seen with Villa badges on a necklace, not sure if that makes her a fan or...?) Dr Carl Chinn MBE (local historian, tv and radio presenter) Jonny Gould, (media radio/tv broadcaster and commentator) Emma B (radio1 presenter) Professor and guardian columnist Marcel Berlins. Vassos Alexander and Phil Williams (both radio 5 live announcers) Matthew Bannister (radio 5 live?) Emma Willis (was Griffiths), MTV presenter and model Pete Colley - Sky Sports reporter Floella Benjamin 80's TV Presenter Radio Highveld DJ Brad Brown Ian Bell (Warwickshire and England cricketer) Joe Calzaghe - former World boxing Champ Jim Lewis (owner of the late great Villa fan Best Mate) Lee Sharpe (?) ex Man Utd Jane Sixsmith (England Olympic hockey player) Justin Rose - Golfer Tom Parsons - high jumper Craig Kieswetter, Somerset/England cricketer Howard Hodgson (presenter, author, including best seller Six Feet Under) Benjamin Zepphaniah (poet) Jacqui Smith former MP for Redditch and former Home Secretary Trade Union leader Bill Morris Lord John Taylor (once briefly in the news when controversially deselected as a black Tory election candidate (Cheltenham, IIRC), also had a brief TV career as a 'legal eagle') Sir Digby Jones, ex head of the CBI Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England Lee Child. (Author of books in the Pulp Fiction genre specifically know for his series of Jack Reacher books) YOUR BOYS TOOK ONE HELL OF A BEATING... ANOTHER HELLLLLLL OF A BEATING!!!!!![/p][/quote]I can see why it took so long now! OSPREYSAINT

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Strasbourg Saint says...
7:53pm Sat 12 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
If tweets about the Referees comments are to be believed the Penalty was given for Guzans tackle on Puncheon so any diving allegations are null and void, but that didn't look any more of a Penalty than the JRod tackle! Perhaps that was what Lambo was claiming?

That's the rumour, but Nigel has already said he doesn't think that that was a foul.

But what do I care, (to misquote Basil Fawlty), who won the bl00dy game, anyway?

As for Reading's late, great fight back, well done them. We'll be grateful when we pip West Brom to a Europa League spot :)

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Scillysaint says...
7:57pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Jay Rod, 9.9 9.9 9.8 9.9 9.9 and finally penalty = 3 points and very happy saints fans !

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OSPREYSAINT says...
8:00pm Sat 12 Jan 13

I know Jasper Carrot is a Birmingham supporter but I reckon he rates a mention, he did do a song about our 1976 Cup Final though!

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Clever Dick says...
8:00pm Sat 12 Jan 13

J7junctionseven wrote:
I'm so glad we're not a little bit less sh**tier than Bury....

Did you know that Bury have won the FA cup twice. In some people's eyes that makes them bigger than us. The way some people twist facts to attempt to justify the unjustifiable is pretty amazing. Bury are a Manchester club and are as significant to ManU as the skunts are to us.

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Optimist says...
8:10pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Dangerous play should always be penalized. Contact is irrelevant, certainly not desired or necessary for a foul to be awarded.
The ref made a brave but correct decision.
A foul could have been given for the Puncheon too, desperate defending.

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Simmo13 says...
8:10pm Sat 12 Jan 13

pompey in spain wrote:
reporting in;just got in a pub after the goal today, so cant comment on it.but if any of you lot think you deserved that youre aving a laff .sitting with some of my mates,sorry associates,i said i got 50 euros youll lose ....not one of 5 s**mmers offered to take the bet! with 35 minutes to go!!! basically you were just that little bit less sh**tier than villa.you are in trouble if you dont get some players in.

Me think you need to worry about your own mob in trouble mate but its nice to know you are taking an interest in our team and results and rather than bet against us put the coppers in the pot sat on most bars in Portsmouth collecting coppers to fight a useless cause as the players you have got still need to be paid their ten bobs.

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olddellsaint says...
8:10pm Sat 12 Jan 13

How many times do we have to hear those bloody words; cheat dive and so forth. the correct words are;;;

Advanced Tactical decision maker for linesmen and refferies by a profesional forward decision maker of profesional football.

ave a nice day villa

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Droewors says...
8:11pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Rather disapointed In NA, I don't want to hear a Manager complain about penalties again, they are as bad as the players and deserve each other.

totallydisillusioned
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Nicole23 says...
8:11pm Sat 12 Jan 13

I give it an 8.5 ror technical difficulty

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pompey in spain says...
8:14pm Sat 12 Jan 13

J7.....very good. all you lot are on a roll tonite so i will bow down to your superior bantered replies and go out on the p**s as pompey today had the best game weve played for ages!!!!!!!!!!!!

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mack chinnon says...
8:19pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Norwegian Saint wrote:
TO ALL MY FELLOW SAINTS FANS....
Sorry for the delay... in a cabin somewhere in Norway with very crap tinternet.... here goes....

HRH Prince William
PM David Cameron
Tom Hanks
Martin Shaw (actor)
Mark Williams (actor - you might have seen him in Harry Potter! and comedian from the Fast Show)
Brendan Gleeson, (actor, appeared in Braveheart, Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, 28 Days Later, Gangs of New York, Harry Potter films, AI...)
David Bradley (actor, Harry Potter, other films, tv and stage)
Oliver Phelps (actor, twin from Harry Potter)
Pauline McLynn (actress. Played Mrs. Doyle in 'Father Ted')
Ian Lavender (actor, best know as Private Pike in Dads Army)
Chris Marshall - My Family (the tall one), BT ads etc
Jim Hacker, best known as the Prime Minister in TV and Radio Series; Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister.
David Moran, ex-Crossroads actor.
Nessa (Ruth Jones) from Gavin & Stacey!!!!!! (Yes we know Nessa was a fictional character!)
If we're going to go with fictional characters, Lenny Godber from Porridge!
Black Sabbath members Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler, Tony Iomi
Brian Travers (UB40)
Several members of bands Duran Duran
Several members of Ocean Colour Scene
Nigel Kennedy (violinist)
Chris Storr (plays trumpet in the Jools Holland Band)
Several members of Napalm Death including lead singer Barney
Scott Gorham original Thin Lizzy guitarist
Amy Winehouse (was seen with Villa badges on a necklace, not sure if that makes her a fan or...?)
Dr Carl Chinn MBE (local historian, tv and radio presenter)
Jonny Gould, (media radio/tv broadcaster and commentator)
Emma B (radio1 presenter)
Professor and guardian columnist Marcel Berlins.
Vassos Alexander and Phil Williams (both radio 5 live announcers)
Matthew Bannister (radio 5 live?)
Emma Willis (was Griffiths), MTV presenter and model
Pete Colley - Sky Sports reporter
Floella Benjamin 80's TV Presenter
Radio Highveld DJ Brad Brown
Ian Bell (Warwickshire and England cricketer)
Joe Calzaghe - former World boxing Champ
Jim Lewis (owner of the late great Villa fan Best Mate)
Lee Sharpe (?) ex Man Utd
Jane Sixsmith (England Olympic hockey player)
Justin Rose - Golfer
Tom Parsons - high jumper
Craig Kieswetter, Somerset/England cricketer
Howard Hodgson (presenter, author, including best seller Six Feet Under)
Benjamin Zepphaniah (poet)
Jacqui Smith former MP for Redditch and former Home Secretary
Trade Union leader Bill Morris
Lord John Taylor (once briefly in the news when controversially deselected as a black Tory election candidate (Cheltenham, IIRC), also had a brief TV career as a 'legal eagle')
Sir Digby Jones, ex head of the CBI
Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England
Lee Child. (Author of books in the Pulp Fiction genre specifically know for his series of Jack Reacher books)

YOUR BOYS TOOK ONE HELL OF A BEATING... ANOTHER HELLLLLLL OF A BEATING!!!!!!

Not forgetting Sir Jimmy Saville.

[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: TO ALL MY FELLOW SAINTS FANS.... Sorry for the delay... in a cabin somewhere in Norway with very crap tinternet.... here goes.... HRH Prince William PM David Cameron Tom Hanks Martin Shaw (actor) Mark Williams (actor - you might have seen him in Harry Potter! and comedian from the Fast Show) Brendan Gleeson, (actor, appeared in Braveheart, Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, 28 Days Later, Gangs of New York, Harry Potter films, AI...) David Bradley (actor, Harry Potter, other films, tv and stage) Oliver Phelps (actor, twin from Harry Potter) Pauline McLynn (actress. Played Mrs. Doyle in 'Father Ted') Ian Lavender (actor, best know as Private Pike in Dads Army) Chris Marshall - My Family (the tall one), BT ads etc Jim Hacker, best known as the Prime Minister in TV and Radio Series; Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister. David Moran, ex-Crossroads actor. Nessa (Ruth Jones) from Gavin & Stacey!!!!!! (Yes we know Nessa was a fictional character!) If we're going to go with fictional characters, Lenny Godber from Porridge! Black Sabbath members Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler, Tony Iomi Brian Travers (UB40) Several members of bands Duran Duran Several members of Ocean Colour Scene Nigel Kennedy (violinist) Chris Storr (plays trumpet in the Jools Holland Band) Several members of Napalm Death including lead singer Barney Scott Gorham original Thin Lizzy guitarist Amy Winehouse (was seen with Villa badges on a necklace, not sure if that makes her a fan or...?) Dr Carl Chinn MBE (local historian, tv and radio presenter) Jonny Gould, (media radio/tv broadcaster and commentator) Emma B (radio1 presenter) Professor and guardian columnist Marcel Berlins. Vassos Alexander and Phil Williams (both radio 5 live announcers) Matthew Bannister (radio 5 live?) Emma Willis (was Griffiths), MTV presenter and model Pete Colley - Sky Sports reporter Floella Benjamin 80's TV Presenter Radio Highveld DJ Brad Brown Ian Bell (Warwickshire and England cricketer) Joe Calzaghe - former World boxing Champ Jim Lewis (owner of the late great Villa fan Best Mate) Lee Sharpe (?) ex Man Utd Jane Sixsmith (England Olympic hockey player) Justin Rose - Golfer Tom Parsons - high jumper Craig Kieswetter, Somerset/England cricketer Howard Hodgson (presenter, author, including best seller Six Feet Under) Benjamin Zepphaniah (poet) Jacqui Smith former MP for Redditch and former Home Secretary Trade Union leader Bill Morris Lord John Taylor (once briefly in the news when controversially deselected as a black Tory election candidate (Cheltenham, IIRC), also had a brief TV career as a 'legal eagle') Sir Digby Jones, ex head of the CBI Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England Lee Child. (Author of books in the Pulp Fiction genre specifically know for his series of Jack Reacher books) YOUR BOYS TOOK ONE HELL OF A BEATING... ANOTHER HELLLLLLL OF A BEATING!!!!!![/p][/quote]Not forgetting Sir Jimmy Saville. mack chinnon

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slugger says...
8:19pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Where's Saintlysoul tonight ? ....... he has all the insider knowledge that we crave ........ on second thoughts .... he hasn't ........ COYR !!

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OSPREYSAINT says...
8:20pm Sat 12 Jan 13

pompey in spain wrote:
J7.....very good. all you lot are on a roll tonite so i will bow down to your superior bantered replies and go out on the p**s as pompey today had the best game weve played for ages!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just hope that they haven't already played their last! We will soon know, or we might not.

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J7junctionseven says...
8:22pm Sat 12 Jan 13

pompey in spain wrote:
J7.....very good. all you lot are on a roll tonite so i will bow down to your superior bantered replies and go out on the p**s as pompey today had the best game weve played for ages!!!!!!!!!!!!

Enjoy your good result and beers as I am....respect.

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Taunton Saint says...
8:27pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Ok, although not Football I am a fully qualified cricket umpire, and stand to a reasonable level of league cricket in the South West.

Like any referee/umpire/lines
man etc I give what I see (or in cricket hear) at that point in time with the "facts" that I have witnessed.

Do I get things wrong? Totally, a batsman will moan to me when he hasn't nicked it, but they never moan when they have and I don't give it.

A bowler will moan about an LBW not given but he won't moan if I miss a inside edge onto his pad and give it

What I am trying to say is simple, people cheat, push the boundaries whatever you want to call it to win, to get a result for their team.

It is all JRod has done, it is all any of the 100's of players across the Premier League will do to get a result.

Did Halsey get it wrong? who knows I won't till I see it but I would love to see it real time no replays etc

Hansen et al will have poured over it a 100 times already for MOTD so their views later are nonsense, they have had a chance to look at it from 20 odd angles

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Confucious says...
8:30pm Sat 12 Jan 13

It was an indisputable pen - a 22 carat solid gold decision. What's more Jay is as honest a player as they come - I'm sure I read in the Times that he's Chairman of the Football Association Truth, Scrupulousness and Probity Committee.

Terrible day for the resident WUMs and trolls. It's bad enough for them us winning and winning hands down fair 'n square makes it even worse. They will have to take their sick sociopathic personalities somewhere else to seek attention and alleviate their deep seated feelings of inadequacy (likely caused by bullying in childhood). I expect soon they'll be on the Villa site looking for unhappiness to feed on.

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slugger says...
8:33pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Taunton Saint wrote:
Ok, although not Football I am a fully qualified cricket umpire, and stand to a reasonable level of league cricket in the South West.

Like any referee/umpire/lines

man etc I give what I see (or in cricket hear) at that point in time with the "facts" that I have witnessed.

Do I get things wrong? Totally, a batsman will moan to me when he hasn't nicked it, but they never moan when they have and I don't give it.

A bowler will moan about an LBW not given but he won't moan if I miss a inside edge onto his pad and give it

What I am trying to say is simple, people cheat, push the boundaries whatever you want to call it to win, to get a result for their team.

It is all JRod has done, it is all any of the 100's of players across the Premier League will do to get a result.

Did Halsey get it wrong? who knows I won't till I see it but I would love to see it real time no replays etc

Hansen et al will have poured over it a 100 times already for MOTD so their views later are nonsense, they have had a chance to look at it from 20 odd angles

Agree totally ......except that Jay didn't really appeal , it was just given ...... never look a gift horse in the mouth is what iv'e always been taught .

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mack chinnon says...
8:34pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Droewors wrote:
Rather disapointed In NA, I don't want to hear a Manager complain about penalties again, they are as bad as the players and deserve each other.

totallydisillusioned

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Pi$$ off then.

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circa 66 saint says...
8:36pm Sat 12 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Norwegian Saint wrote:
TO ALL MY FELLOW SAINTS FANS....
Sorry for the delay... in a cabin somewhere in Norway with very crap tinternet.... here goes....

HRH Prince William
PM David Cameron
Tom Hanks
Martin Shaw (actor)
Mark Williams (actor - you might have seen him in Harry Potter! and comedian from the Fast Show)
Brendan Gleeson, (actor, appeared in Braveheart, Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, 28 Days Later, Gangs of New York, Harry Potter films, AI...)
David Bradley (actor, Harry Potter, other films, tv and stage)
Oliver Phelps (actor, twin from Harry Potter)
Pauline McLynn (actress. Played Mrs. Doyle in 'Father Ted')
Ian Lavender (actor, best know as Private Pike in Dads Army)
Chris Marshall - My Family (the tall one), BT ads etc
Jim Hacker, best known as the Prime Minister in TV and Radio Series; Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister.
David Moran, ex-Crossroads actor.
Nessa (Ruth Jones) from Gavin & Stacey!!!!!! (Yes we know Nessa was a fictional character!)
If we're going to go with fictional characters, Lenny Godber from Porridge!
Black Sabbath members Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler, Tony Iomi
Brian Travers (UB40)
Several members of bands Duran Duran
Several members of Ocean Colour Scene
Nigel Kennedy (violinist)
Chris Storr (plays trumpet in the Jools Holland Band)
Several members of Napalm Death including lead singer Barney
Scott Gorham original Thin Lizzy guitarist
Amy Winehouse (was seen with Villa badges on a necklace, not sure if that makes her a fan or...?)
Dr Carl Chinn MBE (local historian, tv and radio presenter)
Jonny Gould, (media radio/tv broadcaster and commentator)
Emma B (radio1 presenter)
Professor and guardian columnist Marcel Berlins.
Vassos Alexander and Phil Williams (both radio 5 live announcers)
Matthew Bannister (radio 5 live?)
Emma Willis (was Griffiths), MTV presenter and model
Pete Colley - Sky Sports reporter
Floella Benjamin 80's TV Presenter
Radio Highveld DJ Brad Brown
Ian Bell (Warwickshire and England cricketer)
Joe Calzaghe - former World boxing Champ
Jim Lewis (owner of the late great Villa fan Best Mate)
Lee Sharpe (?) ex Man Utd
Jane Sixsmith (England Olympic hockey player)
Justin Rose - Golfer
Tom Parsons - high jumper
Craig Kieswetter, Somerset/England cricketer
Howard Hodgson (presenter, author, including best seller Six Feet Under)
Benjamin Zepphaniah (poet)
Jacqui Smith former MP for Redditch and former Home Secretary
Trade Union leader Bill Morris
Lord John Taylor (once briefly in the news when controversially deselected as a black Tory election candidate (Cheltenham, IIRC), also had a brief TV career as a 'legal eagle')
Sir Digby Jones, ex head of the CBI
Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England
Lee Child. (Author of books in the Pulp Fiction genre specifically know for his series of Jack Reacher books)

YOUR BOYS TOOK ONE HELL OF A BEATING... ANOTHER HELLLLLLL OF A BEATING!!!!!!
I can see why it took so long now!

i think the viking has been storing this up for a while

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: TO ALL MY FELLOW SAINTS FANS.... Sorry for the delay... in a cabin somewhere in Norway with very crap tinternet.... here goes.... HRH Prince William PM David Cameron Tom Hanks Martin Shaw (actor) Mark Williams (actor - you might have seen him in Harry Potter! and comedian from the Fast Show) Brendan Gleeson, (actor, appeared in Braveheart, Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, 28 Days Later, Gangs of New York, Harry Potter films, AI...) David Bradley (actor, Harry Potter, other films, tv and stage) Oliver Phelps (actor, twin from Harry Potter) Pauline McLynn (actress. Played Mrs. Doyle in 'Father Ted') Ian Lavender (actor, best know as Private Pike in Dads Army) Chris Marshall - My Family (the tall one), BT ads etc Jim Hacker, best known as the Prime Minister in TV and Radio Series; Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister. David Moran, ex-Crossroads actor. Nessa (Ruth Jones) from Gavin & Stacey!!!!!! (Yes we know Nessa was a fictional character!) If we're going to go with fictional characters, Lenny Godber from Porridge! Black Sabbath members Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler, Tony Iomi Brian Travers (UB40) Several members of bands Duran Duran Several members of Ocean Colour Scene Nigel Kennedy (violinist) Chris Storr (plays trumpet in the Jools Holland Band) Several members of Napalm Death including lead singer Barney Scott Gorham original Thin Lizzy guitarist Amy Winehouse (was seen with Villa badges on a necklace, not sure if that makes her a fan or...?) Dr Carl Chinn MBE (local historian, tv and radio presenter) Jonny Gould, (media radio/tv broadcaster and commentator) Emma B (radio1 presenter) Professor and guardian columnist Marcel Berlins. Vassos Alexander and Phil Williams (both radio 5 live announcers) Matthew Bannister (radio 5 live?) Emma Willis (was Griffiths), MTV presenter and model Pete Colley - Sky Sports reporter Floella Benjamin 80's TV Presenter Radio Highveld DJ Brad Brown Ian Bell (Warwickshire and England cricketer) Joe Calzaghe - former World boxing Champ Jim Lewis (owner of the late great Villa fan Best Mate) Lee Sharpe (?) ex Man Utd Jane Sixsmith (England Olympic hockey player) Justin Rose - Golfer Tom Parsons - high jumper Craig Kieswetter, Somerset/England cricketer Howard Hodgson (presenter, author, including best seller Six Feet Under) Benjamin Zepphaniah (poet) Jacqui Smith former MP for Redditch and former Home Secretary Trade Union leader Bill Morris Lord John Taylor (once briefly in the news when controversially deselected as a black Tory election candidate (Cheltenham, IIRC), also had a brief TV career as a 'legal eagle') Sir Digby Jones, ex head of the CBI Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England Lee Child. (Author of books in the Pulp Fiction genre specifically know for his series of Jack Reacher books) YOUR BOYS TOOK ONE HELL OF A BEATING... ANOTHER HELLLLLLL OF A BEATING!!!!!![/p][/quote]I can see why it took so long now![/p][/quote]i think the viking has been storing this up for a while circa 66 saint

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J7junctionseven says...
8:36pm Sat 12 Jan 13

mack chinnon wrote:

Norwegian Saint wrote:
TO ALL MY FELLOW SAINTS FANS....
Sorry for the delay... in a cabin somewhere in Norway with very crap tinternet.... here goes....

HRH Prince William
PM David Cameron
Tom Hanks
Martin Shaw (actor)
Mark Williams (actor - you might have seen him in Harry Potter! and comedian from the Fast Show)
Brendan Gleeson, (actor, appeared in Braveheart, Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, 28 Days Later, Gangs of New York, Harry Potter films, AI...)
David Bradley (actor, Harry Potter, other films, tv and stage)
Oliver Phelps (actor, twin from Harry Potter)
Pauline McLynn (actress. Played Mrs. Doyle in 'Father Ted')
Ian Lavender (actor, best know as Private Pike in Dads Army)
Chris Marshall - My Family (the tall one), BT ads etc
Jim Hacker, best known as the Prime Minister in TV and Radio Series; Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister.
David Moran, ex-Crossroads actor.
Nessa (Ruth Jones) from Gavin & Stacey!!!!!! (Yes we know Nessa was a fictional character!)
If we're going to go with fictional characters, Lenny Godber from Porridge!
Black Sabbath members Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler, Tony Iomi
Brian Travers (UB40)
Several members of bands Duran Duran
Several members of Ocean Colour Scene
Nigel Kennedy (violinist)
Chris Storr (plays trumpet in the Jools Holland Band)
Several members of Napalm Death including lead singer Barney
Scott Gorham original Thin Lizzy guitarist
Amy Winehouse (was seen with Villa badges on a necklace, not sure if that makes her a fan or...?)
Dr Carl Chinn MBE (local historian, tv and radio presenter)
Jonny Gould, (media radio/tv broadcaster and commentator)
Emma B (radio1 presenter)
Professor and guardian columnist Marcel Berlins.
Vassos Alexander and Phil Williams (both radio 5 live announcers)
Matthew Bannister (radio 5 live?)
Emma Willis (was Griffiths), MTV presenter and model
Pete Colley - Sky Sports reporter
Floella Benjamin 80's TV Presenter
Radio Highveld DJ Brad Brown
Ian Bell (Warwickshire and England cricketer)
Joe Calzaghe - former World boxing Champ
Jim Lewis (owner of the late great Villa fan Best Mate)
Lee Sharpe (?) ex Man Utd
Jane Sixsmith (England Olympic hockey player)
Justin Rose - Golfer
Tom Parsons - high jumper
Craig Kieswetter, Somerset/England cricketer
Howard Hodgson (presenter, author, including best seller Six Feet Under)
Benjamin Zepphaniah (poet)
Jacqui Smith former MP for Redditch and former Home Secretary
Trade Union leader Bill Morris
Lord John Taylor (once briefly in the news when controversially deselected as a black Tory election candidate (Cheltenham, IIRC), also had a brief TV career as a 'legal eagle')
Sir Digby Jones, ex head of the CBI
Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England
Lee Child. (Author of books in the Pulp Fiction genre specifically know for his series of Jack Reacher books)

YOUR BOYS TOOK ONE HELL OF A BEATING... ANOTHER HELLLLLLL OF A BEATING!!!!!!
Not forgetting Sir Jimmy Saville.

Nah....let's do forget him eh....COYR

[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: TO ALL MY FELLOW SAINTS FANS.... Sorry for the delay... in a cabin somewhere in Norway with very crap tinternet.... here goes.... HRH Prince William PM David Cameron Tom Hanks Martin Shaw (actor) Mark Williams (actor - you might have seen him in Harry Potter! and comedian from the Fast Show) Brendan Gleeson, (actor, appeared in Braveheart, Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, 28 Days Later, Gangs of New York, Harry Potter films, AI...) David Bradley (actor, Harry Potter, other films, tv and stage) Oliver Phelps (actor, twin from Harry Potter) Pauline McLynn (actress. Played Mrs. Doyle in 'Father Ted') Ian Lavender (actor, best know as Private Pike in Dads Army) Chris Marshall - My Family (the tall one), BT ads etc Jim Hacker, best known as the Prime Minister in TV and Radio Series; Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister. David Moran, ex-Crossroads actor. Nessa (Ruth Jones) from Gavin & Stacey!!!!!! (Yes we know Nessa was a fictional character!) If we're going to go with fictional characters, Lenny Godber from Porridge! Black Sabbath members Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler, Tony Iomi Brian Travers (UB40) Several members of bands Duran Duran Several members of Ocean Colour Scene Nigel Kennedy (violinist) Chris Storr (plays trumpet in the Jools Holland Band) Several members of Napalm Death including lead singer Barney Scott Gorham original Thin Lizzy guitarist Amy Winehouse (was seen with Villa badges on a necklace, not sure if that makes her a fan or...?) Dr Carl Chinn MBE (local historian, tv and radio presenter) Jonny Gould, (media radio/tv broadcaster and commentator) Emma B (radio1 presenter) Professor and guardian columnist Marcel Berlins. Vassos Alexander and Phil Williams (both radio 5 live announcers) Matthew Bannister (radio 5 live?) Emma Willis (was Griffiths), MTV presenter and model Pete Colley - Sky Sports reporter Floella Benjamin 80's TV Presenter Radio Highveld DJ Brad Brown Ian Bell (Warwickshire and England cricketer) Joe Calzaghe - former World boxing Champ Jim Lewis (owner of the late great Villa fan Best Mate) Lee Sharpe (?) ex Man Utd Jane Sixsmith (England Olympic hockey player) Justin Rose - Golfer Tom Parsons - high jumper Craig Kieswetter, Somerset/England cricketer Howard Hodgson (presenter, author, including best seller Six Feet Under) Benjamin Zepphaniah (poet) Jacqui Smith former MP for Redditch and former Home Secretary Trade Union leader Bill Morris Lord John Taylor (once briefly in the news when controversially deselected as a black Tory election candidate (Cheltenham, IIRC), also had a brief TV career as a 'legal eagle') Sir Digby Jones, ex head of the CBI Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England Lee Child. (Author of books in the Pulp Fiction genre specifically know for his series of Jack Reacher books) YOUR BOYS TOOK ONE HELL OF A BEATING... ANOTHER HELLLLLLL OF A BEATING!!!!!![/p][/quote]Not forgetting Sir Jimmy Saville.[/p][/quote]Nah....let's do forget him eh....COYR J7junctionseven

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mack chinnon says...
8:41pm Sat 12 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

pompey in spain wrote:
J7.....very good. all you lot are on a roll tonite so i will bow down to your superior bantered replies and go out on the p**s as pompey today had the best game weve played for ages!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just hope that they haven't already played their last! We will soon know, or we might not.

Come on Scunny.

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slugger says...
8:47pm Sat 12 Jan 13

I know we're not supposed to encourage them ...... but ..... where the fcuk are Saintlysoul , caughtredhandedandy and bringbackbranfoot when you want them ?

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Oldfan says...
8:53pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Diving accusations are irrelevant - if the Ref (who is only human) gives it for right or wrong then it is a penalty and has to be accepted.
Anyway I would have accepted a tally of 21 points from 21 games a couple of months ago as an indication we can stay up. It was a vital 3 points today to get to a point a game and although it is far too early to think we are safe matters continue to improve.

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Taunton Saint says...
8:54pm Sat 12 Jan 13

slugger wrote:
I know we're not supposed to encourage them ...... but ..... where the fcuk are Saintlysoul , caughtredhandedandy and bringbackbranfoot when you want them ?

Probably all the same person Slugger, so playing with himself is the most likely answer as he can't get any trills here tonight as we have won!

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Velleity says...
8:57pm Sat 12 Jan 13

slugger wrote:
I know we're not supposed to encourage them ...... but ..... where the fcuk are Saintlysoul , caughtredhandedandy and bringbackbranfoot when you want them ?

Kent's gone AWOL as well.

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saintkenny says...
8:59pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Norwegian Saint wrote:
TO ALL MY FELLOW SAINTS FANS....
Sorry for the delay... in a cabin somewhere in Norway with very crap tinternet.... here goes....

HRH Prince William
PM David Cameron
Tom Hanks
Martin Shaw (actor)
Mark Williams (actor - you might have seen him in Harry Potter! and comedian from the Fast Show)
Brendan Gleeson, (actor, appeared in Braveheart, Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, 28 Days Later, Gangs of New York, Harry Potter films, AI...)
David Bradley (actor, Harry Potter, other films, tv and stage)
Oliver Phelps (actor, twin from Harry Potter)
Pauline McLynn (actress. Played Mrs. Doyle in 'Father Ted')
Ian Lavender (actor, best know as Private Pike in Dads Army)
Chris Marshall - My Family (the tall one), BT ads etc
Jim Hacker, best known as the Prime Minister in TV and Radio Series; Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister.
David Moran, ex-Crossroads actor.
Nessa (Ruth Jones) from Gavin & Stacey!!!!!! (Yes we know Nessa was a fictional character!)
If we're going to go with fictional characters, Lenny Godber from Porridge!
Black Sabbath members Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler, Tony Iomi
Brian Travers (UB40)
Several members of bands Duran Duran
Several members of Ocean Colour Scene
Nigel Kennedy (violinist)
Chris Storr (plays trumpet in the Jools Holland Band)
Several members of Napalm Death including lead singer Barney
Scott Gorham original Thin Lizzy guitarist
Amy Winehouse (was seen with Villa badges on a necklace, not sure if that makes her a fan or...?)
Dr Carl Chinn MBE (local historian, tv and radio presenter)
Jonny Gould, (media radio/tv broadcaster and commentator)
Emma B (radio1 presenter)
Professor and guardian columnist Marcel Berlins.
Vassos Alexander and Phil Williams (both radio 5 live announcers)
Matthew Bannister (radio 5 live?)
Emma Willis (was Griffiths), MTV presenter and model
Pete Colley - Sky Sports reporter
Floella Benjamin 80's TV Presenter
Radio Highveld DJ Brad Brown
Ian Bell (Warwickshire and England cricketer)
Joe Calzaghe - former World boxing Champ
Jim Lewis (owner of the late great Villa fan Best Mate)
Lee Sharpe (?) ex Man Utd
Jane Sixsmith (England Olympic hockey player)
Justin Rose - Golfer
Tom Parsons - high jumper
Craig Kieswetter, Somerset/England cricketer
Howard Hodgson (presenter, author, including best seller Six Feet Under)
Benjamin Zepphaniah (poet)
Jacqui Smith former MP for Redditch and former Home Secretary
Trade Union leader Bill Morris
Lord John Taylor (once briefly in the news when controversially deselected as a black Tory election candidate (Cheltenham, IIRC), also had a brief TV career as a 'legal eagle')
Sir Digby Jones, ex head of the CBI
Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England
Lee Child. (Author of books in the Pulp Fiction genre specifically know for his series of Jack Reacher books)

YOUR BOYS TOOK ONE HELL OF A BEATING... ANOTHER HELLLLLLL OF A BEATING!!!!!!

and about time norge

[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: TO ALL MY FELLOW SAINTS FANS.... Sorry for the delay... in a cabin somewhere in Norway with very crap tinternet.... here goes.... HRH Prince William PM David Cameron Tom Hanks Martin Shaw (actor) Mark Williams (actor - you might have seen him in Harry Potter! and comedian from the Fast Show) Brendan Gleeson, (actor, appeared in Braveheart, Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, 28 Days Later, Gangs of New York, Harry Potter films, AI...) David Bradley (actor, Harry Potter, other films, tv and stage) Oliver Phelps (actor, twin from Harry Potter) Pauline McLynn (actress. Played Mrs. Doyle in 'Father Ted') Ian Lavender (actor, best know as Private Pike in Dads Army) Chris Marshall - My Family (the tall one), BT ads etc Jim Hacker, best known as the Prime Minister in TV and Radio Series; Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister. David Moran, ex-Crossroads actor. Nessa (Ruth Jones) from Gavin & Stacey!!!!!! (Yes we know Nessa was a fictional character!) If we're going to go with fictional characters, Lenny Godber from Porridge! Black Sabbath members Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler, Tony Iomi Brian Travers (UB40) Several members of bands Duran Duran Several members of Ocean Colour Scene Nigel Kennedy (violinist) Chris Storr (plays trumpet in the Jools Holland Band) Several members of Napalm Death including lead singer Barney Scott Gorham original Thin Lizzy guitarist Amy Winehouse (was seen with Villa badges on a necklace, not sure if that makes her a fan or...?) Dr Carl Chinn MBE (local historian, tv and radio presenter) Jonny Gould, (media radio/tv broadcaster and commentator) Emma B (radio1 presenter) Professor and guardian columnist Marcel Berlins. Vassos Alexander and Phil Williams (both radio 5 live announcers) Matthew Bannister (radio 5 live?) Emma Willis (was Griffiths), MTV presenter and model Pete Colley - Sky Sports reporter Floella Benjamin 80's TV Presenter Radio Highveld DJ Brad Brown Ian Bell (Warwickshire and England cricketer) Joe Calzaghe - former World boxing Champ Jim Lewis (owner of the late great Villa fan Best Mate) Lee Sharpe (?) ex Man Utd Jane Sixsmith (England Olympic hockey player) Justin Rose - Golfer Tom Parsons - high jumper Craig Kieswetter, Somerset/England cricketer Howard Hodgson (presenter, author, including best seller Six Feet Under) Benjamin Zepphaniah (poet) Jacqui Smith former MP for Redditch and former Home Secretary Trade Union leader Bill Morris Lord John Taylor (once briefly in the news when controversially deselected as a black Tory election candidate (Cheltenham, IIRC), also had a brief TV career as a 'legal eagle') Sir Digby Jones, ex head of the CBI Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England Lee Child. (Author of books in the Pulp Fiction genre specifically know for his series of Jack Reacher books) YOUR BOYS TOOK ONE HELL OF A BEATING... ANOTHER HELLLLLLL OF A BEATING!!!!!![/p][/quote]and about time norge saintkenny

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magnette says...
9:00pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.
.... and you are?

If you're an unhappy Villa fan then here's my honest assessment having watched a live stream and listened to Nigel's interview.
1. There's doubt as to whether the pen was given for THAT tackle anyway. Some suggest it might have been for a foul on Puncheon by Guzen. If so, Nigel has already said it wasn't a foul and I agree.
2. Assuming, however, that it was given for the challenge on Rodriguez, what Nigel is saying makes some sense. I posted earlier that had Rodriguez not moved his right leg back, he would probably have been caught anyway.
3. However, I also posted that I thought (and I still think) that Rodriguez dived. His leg came back, his body fell forwards and the timing was exactly as the mis-timed tackle came in. However, there's huge doubt about that. I could be wrong. So those suggesting Rodriguez should face a punishment for deliberate diving are plain dumb. (Lineker, have you apologised yet?) Rodriguez may well have fallen simply because of his momentum.
4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul. I remember an example when Thierry Henry, playing for Arsenal against Saints, was about to be tackled by a Saints' player (Chris Marsden). Marsden lunged two-footed towards the ball (not the player), but the ball was just in front of Henry, who then dragged the ball back towards himself and jumped backwards with the ball. Thus, Marsden didn't make contact with either the ball or the player and ended up looking a bit silly jumping two footed towards what was the turf between himself and the ball. However, a foul was given and Marsden saw red for dangerous play.

I can understand why Villa fans feel hard done by today but how about the countless late challenges by Villa players (esp. in the second half) which gave away the initiative on many occasions? Example? The one which left Shaw on a stretcher. It was hard to see if there was any intent, but the player did nothing to avoid following through on Shaw, yet play carried on and was only stopped (to Villa's annoyance) when it was clear Shaw was in trouble. On another occasion (maybe first half) Ramirez went for a lose, knee-high ball, won it and a Villa player simply followed through into Ramirez's foot. No foul given! So, don’t blame Halsey for losing, he did all he could to help you.

If you are a Villa fan, I'd stop moaning and start focussing on how you'll keep hold of your 'stars' when you go down.

Dangerous Play is an indirect freekick not a penalty.

[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonah127[/bold] wrote: Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football. His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it. Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.[/p][/quote].... and you are? If you're an unhappy Villa fan then here's my honest assessment having watched a live stream and listened to Nigel's interview. 1. There's doubt as to whether the pen was given for THAT tackle anyway. Some suggest it might have been for a foul on Puncheon by Guzen. If so, Nigel has already said it wasn't a foul and I agree. 2. Assuming, however, that it was given for the challenge on Rodriguez, what Nigel is saying makes some sense. I posted earlier that had Rodriguez not moved his right leg back, he would probably have been caught anyway. 3. However, I also posted that I thought (and I still think) that Rodriguez dived. His leg came back, his body fell forwards and the timing was exactly as the mis-timed tackle came in. However, there's huge doubt about that. I could be wrong. So those suggesting Rodriguez should face a punishment for deliberate diving are plain dumb. (Lineker, have you apologised yet?) Rodriguez may well have fallen simply because of his momentum. 4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul. I remember an example when Thierry Henry, playing for Arsenal against Saints, was about to be tackled by a Saints' player (Chris Marsden). Marsden lunged two-footed towards the ball (not the player), but the ball was just in front of Henry, who then dragged the ball back towards himself and jumped backwards with the ball. Thus, Marsden didn't make contact with either the ball or the player and ended up looking a bit silly jumping two footed towards what was the turf between himself and the ball. However, a foul was given and Marsden saw red for dangerous play. I can understand why Villa fans feel hard done by today but how about the countless late challenges by Villa players (esp. in the second half) which gave away the initiative on many occasions? Example? The one which left Shaw on a stretcher. It was hard to see if there was any intent, but the player did nothing to avoid following through on Shaw, yet play carried on and was only stopped (to Villa's annoyance) when it was clear Shaw was in trouble. On another occasion (maybe first half) Ramirez went for a lose, knee-high ball, won it and a Villa player simply followed through into Ramirez's foot. No foul given! So, don’t blame Halsey for losing, he did all he could to help you. If you are a Villa fan, I'd stop moaning and start focussing on how you'll keep hold of your 'stars' when you go down.[/p][/quote]Dangerous Play is an indirect freekick not a penalty. magnette

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J7junctionseven says...
9:01pm Sat 12 Jan 13

slugger wrote:
I know we're not supposed to encourage them ...... but ..... where the fcuk are Saintlysoul , caughtredhandedandy and bringbackbranfoot when you want them ?

All taking turns with kunt I expect to get rid of their pent up frustration and all consuming jealousy...:o)

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Sally Hamilton Original says...
9:04pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
he didnt touch me. but i didnt dive

CHEATER. CHEATER CHEATER

the only way ur small club will stay up this yr. cheating stadium, cheating players. fairy fans

Lol, you thick Cnut! I have heard of cheats but cheating STADIUM?!! How the hell does a stadium cheat! You typify everything that is wrong with the blue few!! Great result for you lot today!!!

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Simmo13 says...
9:05pm Sat 12 Jan 13

magnette wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.
.... and you are?

If you're an unhappy Villa fan then here's my honest assessment having watched a live stream and listened to Nigel's interview.
1. There's doubt as to whether the pen was given for THAT tackle anyway. Some suggest it might have been for a foul on Puncheon by Guzen. If so, Nigel has already said it wasn't a foul and I agree.
2. Assuming, however, that it was given for the challenge on Rodriguez, what Nigel is saying makes some sense. I posted earlier that had Rodriguez not moved his right leg back, he would probably have been caught anyway.
3. However, I also posted that I thought (and I still think) that Rodriguez dived. His leg came back, his body fell forwards and the timing was exactly as the mis-timed tackle came in. However, there's huge doubt about that. I could be wrong. So those suggesting Rodriguez should face a punishment for deliberate diving are plain dumb. (Lineker, have you apologised yet?) Rodriguez may well have fallen simply because of his momentum.
4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul. I remember an example when Thierry Henry, playing for Arsenal against Saints, was about to be tackled by a Saints' player (Chris Marsden). Marsden lunged two-footed towards the ball (not the player), but the ball was just in front of Henry, who then dragged the ball back towards himself and jumped backwards with the ball. Thus, Marsden didn't make contact with either the ball or the player and ended up looking a bit silly jumping two footed towards what was the turf between himself and the ball. However, a foul was given and Marsden saw red for dangerous play.

I can understand why Villa fans feel hard done by today but how about the countless late challenges by Villa players (esp. in the second half) which gave away the initiative on many occasions? Example? The one which left Shaw on a stretcher. It was hard to see if there was any intent, but the player did nothing to avoid following through on Shaw, yet play carried on and was only stopped (to Villa's annoyance) when it was clear Shaw was in trouble. On another occasion (maybe first half) Ramirez went for a lose, knee-high ball, won it and a Villa player simply followed through into Ramirez's foot. No foul given! So, don’t blame Halsey for losing, he did all he could to help you.

If you are a Villa fan, I'd stop moaning and start focussing on how you'll keep hold of your 'stars' when you go down.
Dangerous Play is an indirect freekick not a penalty.

Well we got a penalty numb nuts

[quote][p][bold]magnette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonah127[/bold] wrote: Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football. His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it. Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.[/p][/quote].... and you are? If you're an unhappy Villa fan then here's my honest assessment having watched a live stream and listened to Nigel's interview. 1. There's doubt as to whether the pen was given for THAT tackle anyway. Some suggest it might have been for a foul on Puncheon by Guzen. If so, Nigel has already said it wasn't a foul and I agree. 2. Assuming, however, that it was given for the challenge on Rodriguez, what Nigel is saying makes some sense. I posted earlier that had Rodriguez not moved his right leg back, he would probably have been caught anyway. 3. However, I also posted that I thought (and I still think) that Rodriguez dived. His leg came back, his body fell forwards and the timing was exactly as the mis-timed tackle came in. However, there's huge doubt about that. I could be wrong. So those suggesting Rodriguez should face a punishment for deliberate diving are plain dumb. (Lineker, have you apologised yet?) Rodriguez may well have fallen simply because of his momentum. 4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul. I remember an example when Thierry Henry, playing for Arsenal against Saints, was about to be tackled by a Saints' player (Chris Marsden). Marsden lunged two-footed towards the ball (not the player), but the ball was just in front of Henry, who then dragged the ball back towards himself and jumped backwards with the ball. Thus, Marsden didn't make contact with either the ball or the player and ended up looking a bit silly jumping two footed towards what was the turf between himself and the ball. However, a foul was given and Marsden saw red for dangerous play. I can understand why Villa fans feel hard done by today but how about the countless late challenges by Villa players (esp. in the second half) which gave away the initiative on many occasions? Example? The one which left Shaw on a stretcher. It was hard to see if there was any intent, but the player did nothing to avoid following through on Shaw, yet play carried on and was only stopped (to Villa's annoyance) when it was clear Shaw was in trouble. On another occasion (maybe first half) Ramirez went for a lose, knee-high ball, won it and a Villa player simply followed through into Ramirez's foot. No foul given! So, don’t blame Halsey for losing, he did all he could to help you. If you are a Villa fan, I'd stop moaning and start focussing on how you'll keep hold of your 'stars' when you go down.[/p][/quote]Dangerous Play is an indirect freekick not a penalty.[/p][/quote]Well we got a penalty numb nuts Simmo13

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slugger says...
9:06pm Sat 12 Jan 13

J7junctionseven wrote:

slugger wrote:
I know we're not supposed to encourage them ...... but ..... where the fcuk are Saintlysoul , caughtredhandedandy and bringbackbranfoot when you want them ?
All taking turns with kunt I expect to get rid of their pent up frustration and all consuming jealousy...:o)

Lol , that's the answer i was looking for ...... god i love being a saint !

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DisplacedFan says...
9:20pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
he didnt touch me. but i didnt dive

CHEATER. CHEATER CHEATER

the only way ur small club will stay up this yr. cheating stadium, cheating players. fairy fans

You'll need to that and much, much more to stay up. What a shame you must revert to name calling, you sad little man.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:21pm Sat 12 Jan 13

slugger wrote:
I know we're not supposed to encourage them ...... but ..... where the fcuk are Saintlysoul , caughtredhandedandy and bringbackbranfoot when you want them ?

Rsoul has posted his negative bile on the match thread, don't go there if you are in anyway depressed.

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slugger says...
9:25pm Sat 12 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

slugger wrote:
I know we're not supposed to encourage them ...... but ..... where the fcuk are Saintlysoul , caughtredhandedandy and bringbackbranfoot when you want them ?
Rsoul has posted his negative bile on the match thread, don't go there if you are in anyway depressed.

He doesn't depress me at all , in fact he cheers me right up ......i love being a winner !

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Strasbourg Saint says...
9:40pm Sat 12 Jan 13

magnette wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.
.... and you are?

If you're an unhappy Villa fan then here's my honest assessment having watched a live stream and listened to Nigel's interview.
1. There's doubt as to whether the pen was given for THAT tackle anyway. Some suggest it might have been for a foul on Puncheon by Guzen. If so, Nigel has already said it wasn't a foul and I agree.
2. Assuming, however, that it was given for the challenge on Rodriguez, what Nigel is saying makes some sense. I posted earlier that had Rodriguez not moved his right leg back, he would probably have been caught anyway.
3. However, I also posted that I thought (and I still think) that Rodriguez dived. His leg came back, his body fell forwards and the timing was exactly as the mis-timed tackle came in. However, there's huge doubt about that. I could be wrong. So those suggesting Rodriguez should face a punishment for deliberate diving are plain dumb. (Lineker, have you apologised yet?) Rodriguez may well have fallen simply because of his momentum.
4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul. I remember an example when Thierry Henry, playing for Arsenal against Saints, was about to be tackled by a Saints' player (Chris Marsden). Marsden lunged two-footed towards the ball (not the player), but the ball was just in front of Henry, who then dragged the ball back towards himself and jumped backwards with the ball. Thus, Marsden didn't make contact with either the ball or the player and ended up looking a bit silly jumping two footed towards what was the turf between himself and the ball. However, a foul was given and Marsden saw red for dangerous play.

I can understand why Villa fans feel hard done by today but how about the countless late challenges by Villa players (esp. in the second half) which gave away the initiative on many occasions? Example? The one which left Shaw on a stretcher. It was hard to see if there was any intent, but the player did nothing to avoid following through on Shaw, yet play carried on and was only stopped (to Villa's annoyance) when it was clear Shaw was in trouble. On another occasion (maybe first half) Ramirez went for a lose, knee-high ball, won it and a Villa player simply followed through into Ramirez's foot. No foul given! So, don’t blame Halsey for losing, he did all he could to help you.

If you are a Villa fan, I'd stop moaning and start focussing on how you'll keep hold of your 'stars' when you go down.
Dangerous Play is an indirect freekick not a penalty.

Apart from a back pass, when was the last time you saw an attacking team get an indirect free kick in the penalty area?

Not that I agree that all fouls in the area SHOULD be penalties, but whatever the rules are, fouls are always penalties these days.

[quote][p][bold]magnette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonah127[/bold] wrote: Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football. His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it. Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.[/p][/quote].... and you are? If you're an unhappy Villa fan then here's my honest assessment having watched a live stream and listened to Nigel's interview. 1. There's doubt as to whether the pen was given for THAT tackle anyway. Some suggest it might have been for a foul on Puncheon by Guzen. If so, Nigel has already said it wasn't a foul and I agree. 2. Assuming, however, that it was given for the challenge on Rodriguez, what Nigel is saying makes some sense. I posted earlier that had Rodriguez not moved his right leg back, he would probably have been caught anyway. 3. However, I also posted that I thought (and I still think) that Rodriguez dived. His leg came back, his body fell forwards and the timing was exactly as the mis-timed tackle came in. However, there's huge doubt about that. I could be wrong. So those suggesting Rodriguez should face a punishment for deliberate diving are plain dumb. (Lineker, have you apologised yet?) Rodriguez may well have fallen simply because of his momentum. 4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul. I remember an example when Thierry Henry, playing for Arsenal against Saints, was about to be tackled by a Saints' player (Chris Marsden). Marsden lunged two-footed towards the ball (not the player), but the ball was just in front of Henry, who then dragged the ball back towards himself and jumped backwards with the ball. Thus, Marsden didn't make contact with either the ball or the player and ended up looking a bit silly jumping two footed towards what was the turf between himself and the ball. However, a foul was given and Marsden saw red for dangerous play. I can understand why Villa fans feel hard done by today but how about the countless late challenges by Villa players (esp. in the second half) which gave away the initiative on many occasions? Example? The one which left Shaw on a stretcher. It was hard to see if there was any intent, but the player did nothing to avoid following through on Shaw, yet play carried on and was only stopped (to Villa's annoyance) when it was clear Shaw was in trouble. On another occasion (maybe first half) Ramirez went for a lose, knee-high ball, won it and a Villa player simply followed through into Ramirez's foot. No foul given! So, don’t blame Halsey for losing, he did all he could to help you. If you are a Villa fan, I'd stop moaning and start focussing on how you'll keep hold of your 'stars' when you go down.[/p][/quote]Dangerous Play is an indirect freekick not a penalty.[/p][/quote]Apart from a back pass, when was the last time you saw an attacking team get an indirect free kick in the penalty area? Not that I agree that all fouls in the area SHOULD be penalties, but whatever the rules are, fouls are always penalties these days. Strasbourg Saint

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Stroppy_gramps says...
9:41pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
he didnt touch me. but i didnt dive

CHEATER. CHEATER CHEATER

the only way ur small club will stay up this yr. cheating stadium, cheating players. fairy fans

calm down princess, you are letting your bitterness show through.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:43pm Sat 12 Jan 13

slugger wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

slugger wrote:
I know we're not supposed to encourage them ...... but ..... where the fcuk are Saintlysoul , caughtredhandedandy and bringbackbranfoot when you want them ?
Rsoul has posted his negative bile on the match thread, don't go there if you are in anyway depressed.
He doesn't depress me at all , in fact he cheers me right up ......i love being a winner !

He loves being a whinger. He reminds me of a poster on various sites (several of which he has been banned from) called Barry Sanchez/Gomarchingin and other multiple sign ons, virtually as professional a WUM as could be. Just does it to get a response and many of us have fallen in to the traps he sets.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:46pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

magnette wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.
.... and you are?

If you're an unhappy Villa fan then here's my honest assessment having watched a live stream and listened to Nigel's interview.
1. There's doubt as to whether the pen was given for THAT tackle anyway. Some suggest it might have been for a foul on Puncheon by Guzen. If so, Nigel has already said it wasn't a foul and I agree.
2. Assuming, however, that it was given for the challenge on Rodriguez, what Nigel is saying makes some sense. I posted earlier that had Rodriguez not moved his right leg back, he would probably have been caught anyway.
3. However, I also posted that I thought (and I still think) that Rodriguez dived. His leg came back, his body fell forwards and the timing was exactly as the mis-timed tackle came in. However, there's huge doubt about that. I could be wrong. So those suggesting Rodriguez should face a punishment for deliberate diving are plain dumb. (Lineker, have you apologised yet?) Rodriguez may well have fallen simply because of his momentum.
4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul. I remember an example when Thierry Henry, playing for Arsenal against Saints, was about to be tackled by a Saints' player (Chris Marsden). Marsden lunged two-footed towards the ball (not the player), but the ball was just in front of Henry, who then dragged the ball back towards himself and jumped backwards with the ball. Thus, Marsden didn't make contact with either the ball or the player and ended up looking a bit silly jumping two footed towards what was the turf between himself and the ball. However, a foul was given and Marsden saw red for dangerous play.

I can understand why Villa fans feel hard done by today but how about the countless late challenges by Villa players (esp. in the second half) which gave away the initiative on many occasions? Example? The one which left Shaw on a stretcher. It was hard to see if there was any intent, but the player did nothing to avoid following through on Shaw, yet play carried on and was only stopped (to Villa's annoyance) when it was clear Shaw was in trouble. On another occasion (maybe first half) Ramirez went for a lose, knee-high ball, won it and a Villa player simply followed through into Ramirez's foot. No foul given! So, don’t blame Halsey for losing, he did all he could to help you.

If you are a Villa fan, I'd stop moaning and start focussing on how you'll keep hold of your 'stars' when you go down.
Dangerous Play is an indirect freekick not a penalty.
Apart from a back pass, when was the last time you saw an attacking team get an indirect free kick in the penalty area?

Not that I agree that all fouls in the area SHOULD be penalties, but whatever the rules are, fouls are always penalties these days.

Deliberate obstruction used to get an indirect free kick, doesn't seem to be on the intinerary of Officials these days.

[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]magnette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonah127[/bold] wrote: Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football. His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it. Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.[/p][/quote].... and you are? If you're an unhappy Villa fan then here's my honest assessment having watched a live stream and listened to Nigel's interview. 1. There's doubt as to whether the pen was given for THAT tackle anyway. Some suggest it might have been for a foul on Puncheon by Guzen. If so, Nigel has already said it wasn't a foul and I agree. 2. Assuming, however, that it was given for the challenge on Rodriguez, what Nigel is saying makes some sense. I posted earlier that had Rodriguez not moved his right leg back, he would probably have been caught anyway. 3. However, I also posted that I thought (and I still think) that Rodriguez dived. His leg came back, his body fell forwards and the timing was exactly as the mis-timed tackle came in. However, there's huge doubt about that. I could be wrong. So those suggesting Rodriguez should face a punishment for deliberate diving are plain dumb. (Lineker, have you apologised yet?) Rodriguez may well have fallen simply because of his momentum. 4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul. I remember an example when Thierry Henry, playing for Arsenal against Saints, was about to be tackled by a Saints' player (Chris Marsden). Marsden lunged two-footed towards the ball (not the player), but the ball was just in front of Henry, who then dragged the ball back towards himself and jumped backwards with the ball. Thus, Marsden didn't make contact with either the ball or the player and ended up looking a bit silly jumping two footed towards what was the turf between himself and the ball. However, a foul was given and Marsden saw red for dangerous play. I can understand why Villa fans feel hard done by today but how about the countless late challenges by Villa players (esp. in the second half) which gave away the initiative on many occasions? Example? The one which left Shaw on a stretcher. It was hard to see if there was any intent, but the player did nothing to avoid following through on Shaw, yet play carried on and was only stopped (to Villa's annoyance) when it was clear Shaw was in trouble. On another occasion (maybe first half) Ramirez went for a lose, knee-high ball, won it and a Villa player simply followed through into Ramirez's foot. No foul given! So, don’t blame Halsey for losing, he did all he could to help you. If you are a Villa fan, I'd stop moaning and start focussing on how you'll keep hold of your 'stars' when you go down.[/p][/quote]Dangerous Play is an indirect freekick not a penalty.[/p][/quote]Apart from a back pass, when was the last time you saw an attacking team get an indirect free kick in the penalty area? Not that I agree that all fouls in the area SHOULD be penalties, but whatever the rules are, fouls are always penalties these days.[/p][/quote]Deliberate obstruction used to get an indirect free kick, doesn't seem to be on the intinerary of Officials these days. OSPREYSAINT

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Stroppy_gramps says...
9:50pm Sat 12 Jan 13

At the end of the day, you play to the ref - if he thinks its a penalty, then it's a penalty and thats it.

until they bring in a TMO with video replay technology which will have an influence on the refs decision, all the screaming and shouting in the world isn't going to make a blind bit of difference.

For me: Yes it was a dive. However if he had not bought his foot back when he did, his ankle would be garnished with stud marks. Would it have been a penalty then?
who knows? it didn't happen, the penalty was awarded and we got 3 points in the bag.

It always amazes me that players go running up to the ref and protest like they do - the ref never changes his mind.

And as for the Skates coming on here and accusing Saints of being cheaters.......
well....

1) It's very childish
2) Hypocritical in the extreme (must we remind you again of how you bought the FA cup?)
3) I refer you to my comments above - you play to the ref, if you don't agree with his decision - tough. get up the other end and equalise.
Refs are human and you won't agree with every decision they make. Deal with it and move on.

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Strasbourg Saint says...
9:54pm Sat 12 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

magnette wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.
.... and you are?

If you're an unhappy Villa fan then here's my honest assessment having watched a live stream and listened to Nigel's interview.
1. There's doubt as to whether the pen was given for THAT tackle anyway. Some suggest it might have been for a foul on Puncheon by Guzen. If so, Nigel has already said it wasn't a foul and I agree.
2. Assuming, however, that it was given for the challenge on Rodriguez, what Nigel is saying makes some sense. I posted earlier that had Rodriguez not moved his right leg back, he would probably have been caught anyway.
3. However, I also posted that I thought (and I still think) that Rodriguez dived. His leg came back, his body fell forwards and the timing was exactly as the mis-timed tackle came in. However, there's huge doubt about that. I could be wrong. So those suggesting Rodriguez should face a punishment for deliberate diving are plain dumb. (Lineker, have you apologised yet?) Rodriguez may well have fallen simply because of his momentum.
4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul. I remember an example when Thierry Henry, playing for Arsenal against Saints, was about to be tackled by a Saints' player (Chris Marsden). Marsden lunged two-footed towards the ball (not the player), but the ball was just in front of Henry, who then dragged the ball back towards himself and jumped backwards with the ball. Thus, Marsden didn't make contact with either the ball or the player and ended up looking a bit silly jumping two footed towards what was the turf between himself and the ball. However, a foul was given and Marsden saw red for dangerous play.

I can understand why Villa fans feel hard done by today but how about the countless late challenges by Villa players (esp. in the second half) which gave away the initiative on many occasions? Example? The one which left Shaw on a stretcher. It was hard to see if there was any intent, but the player did nothing to avoid following through on Shaw, yet play carried on and was only stopped (to Villa's annoyance) when it was clear Shaw was in trouble. On another occasion (maybe first half) Ramirez went for a lose, knee-high ball, won it and a Villa player simply followed through into Ramirez's foot. No foul given! So, don’t blame Halsey for losing, he did all he could to help you.

If you are a Villa fan, I'd stop moaning and start focussing on how you'll keep hold of your 'stars' when you go down.
Dangerous Play is an indirect freekick not a penalty.
Apart from a back pass, when was the last time you saw an attacking team get an indirect free kick in the penalty area?

Not that I agree that all fouls in the area SHOULD be penalties, but whatever the rules are, fouls are always penalties these days.
Deliberate obstruction used to get an indirect free kick, doesn't seem to be on the intinerary of Officials these days.

Don't get me started on obstruction, Osprey. I really hate the way defenders are allowed to 'shepherd' the ball out of play by standing between the ball and opponent. Surely, if you're not playing the ball, you're playing the man, no?

Of course, as soon as the attacker tries to get the ball, he's accused of taking the player from behind.

Sorry, I'll stop grumping there.

Night all!

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]magnette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonah127[/bold] wrote: Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football. His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it. Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.[/p][/quote].... and you are? If you're an unhappy Villa fan then here's my honest assessment having watched a live stream and listened to Nigel's interview. 1. There's doubt as to whether the pen was given for THAT tackle anyway. Some suggest it might have been for a foul on Puncheon by Guzen. If so, Nigel has already said it wasn't a foul and I agree. 2. Assuming, however, that it was given for the challenge on Rodriguez, what Nigel is saying makes some sense. I posted earlier that had Rodriguez not moved his right leg back, he would probably have been caught anyway. 3. However, I also posted that I thought (and I still think) that Rodriguez dived. His leg came back, his body fell forwards and the timing was exactly as the mis-timed tackle came in. However, there's huge doubt about that. I could be wrong. So those suggesting Rodriguez should face a punishment for deliberate diving are plain dumb. (Lineker, have you apologised yet?) Rodriguez may well have fallen simply because of his momentum. 4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul. I remember an example when Thierry Henry, playing for Arsenal against Saints, was about to be tackled by a Saints' player (Chris Marsden). Marsden lunged two-footed towards the ball (not the player), but the ball was just in front of Henry, who then dragged the ball back towards himself and jumped backwards with the ball. Thus, Marsden didn't make contact with either the ball or the player and ended up looking a bit silly jumping two footed towards what was the turf between himself and the ball. However, a foul was given and Marsden saw red for dangerous play. I can understand why Villa fans feel hard done by today but how about the countless late challenges by Villa players (esp. in the second half) which gave away the initiative on many occasions? Example? The one which left Shaw on a stretcher. It was hard to see if there was any intent, but the player did nothing to avoid following through on Shaw, yet play carried on and was only stopped (to Villa's annoyance) when it was clear Shaw was in trouble. On another occasion (maybe first half) Ramirez went for a lose, knee-high ball, won it and a Villa player simply followed through into Ramirez's foot. No foul given! So, don’t blame Halsey for losing, he did all he could to help you. If you are a Villa fan, I'd stop moaning and start focussing on how you'll keep hold of your 'stars' when you go down.[/p][/quote]Dangerous Play is an indirect freekick not a penalty.[/p][/quote]Apart from a back pass, when was the last time you saw an attacking team get an indirect free kick in the penalty area? Not that I agree that all fouls in the area SHOULD be penalties, but whatever the rules are, fouls are always penalties these days.[/p][/quote]Deliberate obstruction used to get an indirect free kick, doesn't seem to be on the intinerary of Officials these days.[/p][/quote]Don't get me started on obstruction, Osprey. I really hate the way defenders are allowed to 'shepherd' the ball out of play by standing between the ball and opponent. Surely, if you're not playing the ball, you're playing the man, no? Of course, as soon as the attacker tries to get the ball, he's accused of taking the player from behind. Sorry, I'll stop grumping there. Night all! Strasbourg Saint

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RedArmy1 says...
9:57pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Back from the game by car with another AWAY WIN.

OUR AWAY SUPPORTERS ARE TOP FANS.

Need to crank up the noise at Home or turn into one of these library PREMIERSHIP SIDES.

Don't know what was wrong with Gaston today - all the other players were UP for it.

There are tickets still available for Chelsea Away and although they will have opportunities - SO WILL WE.

NEXT HOME GAME :

TOP PUBS

1) PRINCE OF WALES
2) NORTHAM CLUB
3) KING ALFRED

WE ARE RED ARMY AND WE RULE THE SOUTH. COYR.

P.S. WE H8 POMPEY.

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saintlysoul says...
9:59pm Sat 12 Jan 13

His dive was the highlight of his game he did sod all else!

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slugger says...
10:08pm Sat 12 Jan 13

saintlysoul wrote:
His dive was the highlight of his game he did sod all else!

Ahhhh , here it is ........ must be absolutely gutted with a Saints win ............. c'mon saintlysoul , try and fool us !

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OSPREYSAINT says...
10:16pm Sat 12 Jan 13

slugger wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:
His dive was the highlight of his game he did sod all else!
Ahhhh , here it is ........ must be absolutely gutted with a Saints win ............. c'mon saintlysoul , try and fool us !

Shhhush lol

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OSPREYSAINT says...
10:17pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Screen 2 tonight on Football First just starting.

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2010chappy says...
10:18pm Sat 12 Jan 13

magnette wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.
.... and you are?

If you're an unhappy Villa fan then here's my honest assessment having watched a live stream and listened to Nigel's interview.
1. There's doubt as to whether the pen was given for THAT tackle anyway. Some suggest it might have been for a foul on Puncheon by Guzen. If so, Nigel has already said it wasn't a foul and I agree.
2. Assuming, however, that it was given for the challenge on Rodriguez, what Nigel is saying makes some sense. I posted earlier that had Rodriguez not moved his right leg back, he would probably have been caught anyway.
3. However, I also posted that I thought (and I still think) that Rodriguez dived. His leg came back, his body fell forwards and the timing was exactly as the mis-timed tackle came in. However, there's huge doubt about that. I could be wrong. So those suggesting Rodriguez should face a punishment for deliberate diving are plain dumb. (Lineker, have you apologised yet?) Rodriguez may well have fallen simply because of his momentum.
4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul. I remember an example when Thierry Henry, playing for Arsenal against Saints, was about to be tackled by a Saints' player (Chris Marsden). Marsden lunged two-footed towards the ball (not the player), but the ball was just in front of Henry, who then dragged the ball back towards himself and jumped backwards with the ball. Thus, Marsden didn't make contact with either the ball or the player and ended up looking a bit silly jumping two footed towards what was the turf between himself and the ball. However, a foul was given and Marsden saw red for dangerous play.

I can understand why Villa fans feel hard done by today but how about the countless late challenges by Villa players (esp. in the second half) which gave away the initiative on many occasions? Example? The one which left Shaw on a stretcher. It was hard to see if there was any intent, but the player did nothing to avoid following through on Shaw, yet play carried on and was only stopped (to Villa's annoyance) when it was clear Shaw was in trouble. On another occasion (maybe first half) Ramirez went for a lose, knee-high ball, won it and a Villa player simply followed through into Ramirez's foot. No foul given! So, don’t blame Halsey for losing, he did all he could to help you.

If you are a Villa fan, I'd stop moaning and start focussing on how you'll keep hold of your 'stars' when you go down.
Dangerous Play is an indirect freekick not a penalty.

Dangerous play is a straight red card, 3 game ban and direct free kick!!!

[quote][p][bold]magnette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonah127[/bold] wrote: Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football. His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it. Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.[/p][/quote].... and you are? If you're an unhappy Villa fan then here's my honest assessment having watched a live stream and listened to Nigel's interview. 1. There's doubt as to whether the pen was given for THAT tackle anyway. Some suggest it might have been for a foul on Puncheon by Guzen. If so, Nigel has already said it wasn't a foul and I agree. 2. Assuming, however, that it was given for the challenge on Rodriguez, what Nigel is saying makes some sense. I posted earlier that had Rodriguez not moved his right leg back, he would probably have been caught anyway. 3. However, I also posted that I thought (and I still think) that Rodriguez dived. His leg came back, his body fell forwards and the timing was exactly as the mis-timed tackle came in. However, there's huge doubt about that. I could be wrong. So those suggesting Rodriguez should face a punishment for deliberate diving are plain dumb. (Lineker, have you apologised yet?) Rodriguez may well have fallen simply because of his momentum. 4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul. I remember an example when Thierry Henry, playing for Arsenal against Saints, was about to be tackled by a Saints' player (Chris Marsden). Marsden lunged two-footed towards the ball (not the player), but the ball was just in front of Henry, who then dragged the ball back towards himself and jumped backwards with the ball. Thus, Marsden didn't make contact with either the ball or the player and ended up looking a bit silly jumping two footed towards what was the turf between himself and the ball. However, a foul was given and Marsden saw red for dangerous play. I can understand why Villa fans feel hard done by today but how about the countless late challenges by Villa players (esp. in the second half) which gave away the initiative on many occasions? Example? The one which left Shaw on a stretcher. It was hard to see if there was any intent, but the player did nothing to avoid following through on Shaw, yet play carried on and was only stopped (to Villa's annoyance) when it was clear Shaw was in trouble. On another occasion (maybe first half) Ramirez went for a lose, knee-high ball, won it and a Villa player simply followed through into Ramirez's foot. No foul given! So, don’t blame Halsey for losing, he did all he could to help you. If you are a Villa fan, I'd stop moaning and start focussing on how you'll keep hold of your 'stars' when you go down.[/p][/quote]Dangerous Play is an indirect freekick not a penalty.[/p][/quote]Dangerous play is a straight red card, 3 game ban and direct free kick!!! 2010chappy

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SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...
10:40pm Sat 12 Jan 13

pompey in spain wrote:
reporting in;just got in a pub after the goal today, so cant comment on it.but if any of you lot think you deserved that youre aving a laff .sitting with some of my mates,sorry associates,i said i got 50 euros youll lose ....not one of 5 s**mmers offered to take the bet! with 35 minutes to go!!! basically you were just that little bit less sh**tier than villa.you are in trouble if you dont get some players in.

SKATE IN THE SUN
better than home life at Fratton ! REAL FAN aya mate , a DAGO SKATE

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slugger says...
10:44pm Sat 12 Jan 13

To be honest do any of us care ? ...... We won at the end of the day and i'll take that !

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OSPREYSAINT says...
10:44pm Sat 12 Jan 13

All I can say is that if it wasn't for a defensive masterclass from AVs Clark, we would have had a hat full in the first half.

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saintsupnorth says...
10:45pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Simmo13 wrote:

magnette wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.
.... and you are?

If you're an unhappy Villa fan then here's my honest assessment having watched a live stream and listened to Nigel's interview.
1. There's doubt as to whether the pen was given for THAT tackle anyway. Some suggest it might have been for a foul on Puncheon by Guzen. If so, Nigel has already said it wasn't a foul and I agree.
2. Assuming, however, that it was given for the challenge on Rodriguez, what Nigel is saying makes some sense. I posted earlier that had Rodriguez not moved his right leg back, he would probably have been caught anyway.
3. However, I also posted that I thought (and I still think) that Rodriguez dived. His leg came back, his body fell forwards and the timing was exactly as the mis-timed tackle came in. However, there's huge doubt about that. I could be wrong. So those suggesting Rodriguez should face a punishment for deliberate diving are plain dumb. (Lineker, have you apologised yet?) Rodriguez may well have fallen simply because of his momentum.
4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul. I remember an example when Thierry Henry, playing for Arsenal against Saints, was about to be tackled by a Saints' player (Chris Marsden). Marsden lunged two-footed towards the ball (not the player), but the ball was just in front of Henry, who then dragged the ball back towards himself and jumped backwards with the ball. Thus, Marsden didn't make contact with either the ball or the player and ended up looking a bit silly jumping two footed towards what was the turf between himself and the ball. However, a foul was given and Marsden saw red for dangerous play.

I can understand why Villa fans feel hard done by today but how about the countless late challenges by Villa players (esp. in the second half) which gave away the initiative on many occasions? Example? The one which left Shaw on a stretcher. It was hard to see if there was any intent, but the player did nothing to avoid following through on Shaw, yet play carried on and was only stopped (to Villa's annoyance) when it was clear Shaw was in trouble. On another occasion (maybe first half) Ramirez went for a lose, knee-high ball, won it and a Villa player simply followed through into Ramirez's foot. No foul given! So, don’t blame Halsey for losing, he did all he could to help you.

If you are a Villa fan, I'd stop moaning and start focussing on how you'll keep hold of your 'stars' when you go down.
Dangerous Play is an indirect freekick not a penalty.
Well we got a penalty numb nuts

Thats why saints have one of the best records in the Prem for fair play because we play football like it is meant to be played. All in in all its down to the ref to make tough decisions, sometimes they get it right sometimes they get it wrong. But without them there would be no games of football.

[quote][p][bold]Simmo13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]magnette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonah127[/bold] wrote: Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football. His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it. Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.[/p][/quote].... and you are? If you're an unhappy Villa fan then here's my honest assessment having watched a live stream and listened to Nigel's interview. 1. There's doubt as to whether the pen was given for THAT tackle anyway. Some suggest it might have been for a foul on Puncheon by Guzen. If so, Nigel has already said it wasn't a foul and I agree. 2. Assuming, however, that it was given for the challenge on Rodriguez, what Nigel is saying makes some sense. I posted earlier that had Rodriguez not moved his right leg back, he would probably have been caught anyway. 3. However, I also posted that I thought (and I still think) that Rodriguez dived. His leg came back, his body fell forwards and the timing was exactly as the mis-timed tackle came in. However, there's huge doubt about that. I could be wrong. So those suggesting Rodriguez should face a punishment for deliberate diving are plain dumb. (Lineker, have you apologised yet?) Rodriguez may well have fallen simply because of his momentum. 4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul. I remember an example when Thierry Henry, playing for Arsenal against Saints, was about to be tackled by a Saints' player (Chris Marsden). Marsden lunged two-footed towards the ball (not the player), but the ball was just in front of Henry, who then dragged the ball back towards himself and jumped backwards with the ball. Thus, Marsden didn't make contact with either the ball or the player and ended up looking a bit silly jumping two footed towards what was the turf between himself and the ball. However, a foul was given and Marsden saw red for dangerous play. I can understand why Villa fans feel hard done by today but how about the countless late challenges by Villa players (esp. in the second half) which gave away the initiative on many occasions? Example? The one which left Shaw on a stretcher. It was hard to see if there was any intent, but the player did nothing to avoid following through on Shaw, yet play carried on and was only stopped (to Villa's annoyance) when it was clear Shaw was in trouble. On another occasion (maybe first half) Ramirez went for a lose, knee-high ball, won it and a Villa player simply followed through into Ramirez's foot. No foul given! So, don’t blame Halsey for losing, he did all he could to help you. If you are a Villa fan, I'd stop moaning and start focussing on how you'll keep hold of your 'stars' when you go down.[/p][/quote]Dangerous Play is an indirect freekick not a penalty.[/p][/quote]Well we got a penalty numb nuts[/p][/quote]Thats why saints have one of the best records in the Prem for fair play because we play football like it is meant to be played. All in in all its down to the ref to make tough decisions, sometimes they get it right sometimes they get it wrong. But without them there would be no games of football. saintsupnorth

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saintlysoul says...
10:52pm Sat 12 Jan 13

slugger wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:
His dive was the highlight of his game he did sod all else!
Ahhhh , here it is ........ must be absolutely gutted with a Saints win ............. c'mon saintlysoul , try and fool us !

It'll be the last win for many games to come sadly!

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Jesus_02 says...
10:58pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Interesting that Chelsea got a pen with no contact today

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slugger says...
10:58pm Sat 12 Jan 13

saintlysoul wrote:

slugger wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:
His dive was the highlight of his game he did sod all else!
Ahhhh , here it is ........ must be absolutely gutted with a Saints win ............. c'mon saintlysoul , try and fool us !
It'll be the last win for many games to come sadly!

In the words of John Lydon ...... "you could be wrong but could be right"......... who knows ? ........ but you seem to have been wrong a bit lately ?

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Jesus_02 says...
11:03pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Chelsea pen with defender makig no contact reported as

"Frank Lampard made it 3-0 from the spot after Mata was fouled "

Saints the same reported as

"Aston Villa slipped into the bottom three in controversial circumstances as Jay Rodriguez's blatant first-half dive"

Nothing like consistency BBC

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slugger says...
11:06pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Jesus_02 wrote:
Chelsea pen with defender makig no contact reported as

"Frank Lampard made it 3-0 from the spot after Mata was fouled "

Saints the same reported as

"Aston Villa slipped into the bottom three in controversial circumstances as Jay Rodriguez's blatant first-half dive"

Nothing like consistency BBC

History will say Saints won 0-1 ... that's all i'm concerned with .

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ghk230473 says...
11:25pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Not a dive, Jay falls avoiding being kicked. Dangerous play by defender who should have stayed on his feet.
Boruc looked brave but erratic, not sure if he is the answer. Shaw was stretching to keep in the dodgy throw from boric which led to his injury.
Hope Ramirez gets his head up, he's not looking happy.

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andyflowers says...
11:30pm Sat 12 Jan 13

well done j -rod first significent repayment of that fee , todays 3 points could prove monumental come end of season , up the saints !!!!

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owen thesaints... says...
11:34pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.

Right,let's get this sorted. The ref gave the penalty for the challenge on Puncheon, but played advantage cos he thought we might score. This comes from the radio solent commentator who spoke to the ref immediately after the game, so all you tw#ts slagging off J-Rod for diving haven't got a feckin leg to stand on! Great win today COYR. Shame Villa Park was such a shitehole and the disrespect to away support was shameful. Even the pub near the ground wanted £3 to get in and no beer on sale to away fans inside!! The coppers said to us it was worth the fee to go in the pub because it guaranteed us no aggro!! Very proud to be a saint as always

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Stroppy_gramps says...
11:35pm Sat 12 Jan 13

nothing any of the WUM's can say can detract from the fact that we are in the Premier League and we have put some daylight between us and the relegation zone.

Not guaranteed that we won't get dragged back in just yet, but if we can get something from the next few games I'll be happy.

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saintshorse101 says...
11:38pm Sat 12 Jan 13

well another great win for the south coasts top team.
well played saints and NA for picking the right team and tactics again, he has done well considering hes not a prem manager!
we are now climbing the table and it wont be long untill we are above fats sams hoof ham utd! as we were all last season.
awful conditions for football today but good to see every game in league football given the go ahead to play today, allmouth struggled and the ref nearly called their game off at half-time, just shows what efforts clubs have put into the infrastructure of the game. using monies from tv deals, not just on expensive players in the vain hope of getting promotion or a cup, no, money spent on improving the playing surface, drainage, stands and facilities for the fans. makes you proud to be a supporter of football in england, no wait theres always one!

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MGRA says...
11:43pm Sat 12 Jan 13

he did not claim the penalty when he hit the deck. and said to the villa players " I did not dive". thats good enough for me....

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St Retford says...
11:56pm Sat 12 Jan 13

I'm still in Birmingham and I've had nine pints and the best curry of my life. I couldn't give a flying f@ck if it was a penalty or not - today has been a good day. Right, NIGHTCLUB, PLEASE.

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rocketone says...
12:02am Sun 13 Jan 13

Just watched MotD and Jrod doesn't dive.
He toe pokes a pas to Ricky because he thinks he might get crocked with a full swing.
But if the ref has the pen was for. Different foul then football pundits should wind their necks in!

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Wozzie says...
12:04am Sun 13 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
he didnt touch me. but i didnt dive

CHEATER. CHEATER CHEATER

the only way ur small club will stay up this yr. cheating stadium, cheating players. fairy fans

We are 15th in the Premier, you inland revenue cheating fishy fellows are in the relegation places of Div 1 with points yet to be deducted. You will be lucky to get double figure points once that happens.

Who the F**K is laughing now!!!!!

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Baddesley Bill says...
12:36am Sun 13 Jan 13

Bit rich of one of the "few" to accuse one member of our team to be cheating...

...as a club, the skunts have been cheating for years.

...judgement day is coming...and I fear for them....

...not! :O)

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saintshorse101 says...
1:04am Sun 13 Jan 13

owen thesaints... wrote:

Jonah127 wrote: Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football. His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it. Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.
Right,let's get this sorted. The ref gave the penalty for the challenge on Puncheon, but played advantage cos he thought we might score. This comes from the radio solent commentator who spoke to the ref immediately after the game, so all you tw#ts slagging off J-Rod for diving haven't got a feckin leg to stand on! Great win today COYR. Shame Villa Park was such a shitehole and the disrespect to away support was shameful. Even the pub near the ground wanted £3 to get in and no beer on sale to away fans inside!! The coppers said to us it was worth the fee to go in the pub because it guaranteed us no aggro!! Very proud to be a saint as always

not heard the commentators version, however if this is true, and i have no reason to think otherwise, then we should start a campaign to get lineker to apologise to Jrod on MOTD. dosent mater if he dived or not, if the ref gave the pen for the foul on punch (after advantage), all Jrod was doing was getting out of the way. i thought when i saw it on MOTD that when on the deck Jrod said `he never touched me` or words like that and looked confused that the ref had blown.
still as others have said its about time we had some luck go or way!
its going to be a different saints team that go to chelski on tuesday and we might, just might give them a game, a point would be a good point from that game.

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Velleity says...
1:15am Sun 13 Jan 13

slugger wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

slugger wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:
His dive was the highlight of his game he did sod all else!
Ahhhh , here it is ........ must be absolutely gutted with a Saints win ............. c'mon saintlysoul , try and fool us !
It'll be the last win for many games to come sadly!
In the words of John Lydon ...... "you could be wrong but could be right"......... who knows ? ........ but you seem to have been wrong a bit lately ?

Slugger, you're meant to be sssshing Saintly..ah..sole aren't you?

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City Saint says...
1:34am Sun 13 Jan 13

Velleity wrote:

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:
We've been denied a dozen legit penalties at home this season. We might have been given one we shouldn't have today; we'll know more after motd.

I would still prefer that the calls were right, all the time. We'd have had more penalties, as a fair team, and probably have won more games, too.

There's no way to reasonably expect refs to always get it right these days, the game is too fast and the divers are too clever, which leads to second- and third-guessing by refs.

So bring on harsher punishments for clear simulation, and lets start getting some support for the refs with technology. Goal-line cameras for tough goal decisions, and up to three challenges a game for each team on fouls and other decisions where video replay can be studied.

The purists will say no. But football is always evolving (I still remember taking more than three steps while holding the ball was a no-no for keepers, and the game is better for ditching that). Time to move on for video support, too.

Saints would be winners in such an environment. No matter what jrod did today, we play the game right under Adkins.

Well done on the three points, saints.
I disagree so much with the idea of technology being used in footy, I'm afraid. I'm even against goal-line technology.

The rules of the game should be exactly the same for my eleven year old son as for the World Cup final.

People used to be mature enough to accept that you win some, you lose some. We missed three points against Arsenal when Gaston's goal was disallowed; we gained three points against Villa. That's the way it is. It balances out over a season.

The TV pundits could help by trying not to analyses every single decision from fourteen camera angles. It can't possibly do any good and erodes trust in the officials.

Also, there's a rule to cover this: the ref's decision is final. Thus, it WAS a penalty, just as Ramirez's "goal" last week wasn't a goal.
Sorry City Saint, looks like an attack on you - didn't mean to quote you - it was just a general point.

Sure, fair enough. I don't feel strongly at all about challenging calls that are made, like the penalty decision today.

I do think goal-line technology would be useful though. I'm still peeved about the england goal against Germany that wasn't given in the last World Cup.

Just caught up with motd. A blistering penalty from sir rickie, which is a reminder that you've still got to convert them when they've been given. Nicely taken as always!

[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: We've been denied a dozen legit penalties at home this season. We might have been given one we shouldn't have today; we'll know more after motd. I would still prefer that the calls were right, all the time. We'd have had more penalties, as a fair team, and probably have won more games, too. There's no way to reasonably expect refs to always get it right these days, the game is too fast and the divers are too clever, which leads to second- and third-guessing by refs. So bring on harsher punishments for clear simulation, and lets start getting some support for the refs with technology. Goal-line cameras for tough goal decisions, and up to three challenges a game for each team on fouls and other decisions where video replay can be studied. The purists will say no. But football is always evolving (I still remember taking more than three steps while holding the ball was a no-no for keepers, and the game is better for ditching that). Time to move on for video support, too. Saints would be winners in such an environment. No matter what jrod did today, we play the game right under Adkins. Well done on the three points, saints.[/p][/quote]I disagree so much with the idea of technology being used in footy, I'm afraid. I'm even against goal-line technology. The rules of the game should be exactly the same for my eleven year old son as for the World Cup final. People used to be mature enough to accept that you win some, you lose some. We missed three points against Arsenal when Gaston's goal was disallowed; we gained three points against Villa. That's the way it is. It balances out over a season. The TV pundits could help by trying not to analyses every single decision from fourteen camera angles. It can't possibly do any good and erodes trust in the officials. Also, there's a rule to cover this: the ref's decision is final. Thus, it WAS a penalty, just as Ramirez's "goal" last week wasn't a goal.[/p][/quote]Sorry City Saint, looks like an attack on you - didn't mean to quote you - it was just a general point.[/p][/quote]Sure, fair enough. I don't feel strongly at all about challenging calls that are made, like the penalty decision today. I do think goal-line technology would be useful though. I'm still peeved about the england goal against Germany that wasn't given in the last World Cup. Just caught up with motd. A blistering penalty from sir rickie, which is a reminder that you've still got to convert them when they've been given. Nicely taken as always! City Saint

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City Saint says...
1:36am Sun 13 Jan 13

Norwegian Saint wrote:
TO ALL MY FELLOW SAINTS FANS....
Sorry for the delay... in a cabin somewhere in Norway with very crap tinternet.... here goes....

HRH Prince William
PM David Cameron
Tom Hanks
Martin Shaw (actor)
Mark Williams (actor - you might have seen him in Harry Potter! and comedian from the Fast Show)
Brendan Gleeson, (actor, appeared in Braveheart, Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, 28 Days Later, Gangs of New York, Harry Potter films, AI...)
David Bradley (actor, Harry Potter, other films, tv and stage)
Oliver Phelps (actor, twin from Harry Potter)
Pauline McLynn (actress. Played Mrs. Doyle in 'Father Ted')
Ian Lavender (actor, best know as Private Pike in Dads Army)
Chris Marshall - My Family (the tall one), BT ads etc
Jim Hacker, best known as the Prime Minister in TV and Radio Series; Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister.
David Moran, ex-Crossroads actor.
Nessa (Ruth Jones) from Gavin & Stacey!!!!!! (Yes we know Nessa was a fictional character!)
If we're going to go with fictional characters, Lenny Godber from Porridge!
Black Sabbath members Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler, Tony Iomi
Brian Travers (UB40)
Several members of bands Duran Duran
Several members of Ocean Colour Scene
Nigel Kennedy (violinist)
Chris Storr (plays trumpet in the Jools Holland Band)
Several members of Napalm Death including lead singer Barney
Scott Gorham original Thin Lizzy guitarist
Amy Winehouse (was seen with Villa badges on a necklace, not sure if that makes her a fan or...?)
Dr Carl Chinn MBE (local historian, tv and radio presenter)
Jonny Gould, (media radio/tv broadcaster and commentator)
Emma B (radio1 presenter)
Professor and guardian columnist Marcel Berlins.
Vassos Alexander and Phil Williams (both radio 5 live announcers)
Matthew Bannister (radio 5 live?)
Emma Willis (was Griffiths), MTV presenter and model
Pete Colley - Sky Sports reporter
Floella Benjamin 80's TV Presenter
Radio Highveld DJ Brad Brown
Ian Bell (Warwickshire and England cricketer)
Joe Calzaghe - former World boxing Champ
Jim Lewis (owner of the late great Villa fan Best Mate)
Lee Sharpe (?) ex Man Utd
Jane Sixsmith (England Olympic hockey player)
Justin Rose - Golfer
Tom Parsons - high jumper
Craig Kieswetter, Somerset/England cricketer
Howard Hodgson (presenter, author, including best seller Six Feet Under)
Benjamin Zepphaniah (poet)
Jacqui Smith former MP for Redditch and former Home Secretary
Trade Union leader Bill Morris
Lord John Taylor (once briefly in the news when controversially deselected as a black Tory election candidate (Cheltenham, IIRC), also had a brief TV career as a 'legal eagle')
Sir Digby Jones, ex head of the CBI
Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England
Lee Child. (Author of books in the Pulp Fiction genre specifically know for his series of Jack Reacher books)

YOUR BOYS TOOK ONE HELL OF A BEATING... ANOTHER HELLLLLLL OF A BEATING!!!!!!

It must be cold up there for you to list the entire Villa support! A pleasure to see the hell if a beating list, as always.

[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: TO ALL MY FELLOW SAINTS FANS.... Sorry for the delay... in a cabin somewhere in Norway with very crap tinternet.... here goes.... HRH Prince William PM David Cameron Tom Hanks Martin Shaw (actor) Mark Williams (actor - you might have seen him in Harry Potter! and comedian from the Fast Show) Brendan Gleeson, (actor, appeared in Braveheart, Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, 28 Days Later, Gangs of New York, Harry Potter films, AI...) David Bradley (actor, Harry Potter, other films, tv and stage) Oliver Phelps (actor, twin from Harry Potter) Pauline McLynn (actress. Played Mrs. Doyle in 'Father Ted') Ian Lavender (actor, best know as Private Pike in Dads Army) Chris Marshall - My Family (the tall one), BT ads etc Jim Hacker, best known as the Prime Minister in TV and Radio Series; Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister. David Moran, ex-Crossroads actor. Nessa (Ruth Jones) from Gavin & Stacey!!!!!! (Yes we know Nessa was a fictional character!) If we're going to go with fictional characters, Lenny Godber from Porridge! Black Sabbath members Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler, Tony Iomi Brian Travers (UB40) Several members of bands Duran Duran Several members of Ocean Colour Scene Nigel Kennedy (violinist) Chris Storr (plays trumpet in the Jools Holland Band) Several members of Napalm Death including lead singer Barney Scott Gorham original Thin Lizzy guitarist Amy Winehouse (was seen with Villa badges on a necklace, not sure if that makes her a fan or...?) Dr Carl Chinn MBE (local historian, tv and radio presenter) Jonny Gould, (media radio/tv broadcaster and commentator) Emma B (radio1 presenter) Professor and guardian columnist Marcel Berlins. Vassos Alexander and Phil Williams (both radio 5 live announcers) Matthew Bannister (radio 5 live?) Emma Willis (was Griffiths), MTV presenter and model Pete Colley - Sky Sports reporter Floella Benjamin 80's TV Presenter Radio Highveld DJ Brad Brown Ian Bell (Warwickshire and England cricketer) Joe Calzaghe - former World boxing Champ Jim Lewis (owner of the late great Villa fan Best Mate) Lee Sharpe (?) ex Man Utd Jane Sixsmith (England Olympic hockey player) Justin Rose - Golfer Tom Parsons - high jumper Craig Kieswetter, Somerset/England cricketer Howard Hodgson (presenter, author, including best seller Six Feet Under) Benjamin Zepphaniah (poet) Jacqui Smith former MP for Redditch and former Home Secretary Trade Union leader Bill Morris Lord John Taylor (once briefly in the news when controversially deselected as a black Tory election candidate (Cheltenham, IIRC), also had a brief TV career as a 'legal eagle') Sir Digby Jones, ex head of the CBI Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England Lee Child. (Author of books in the Pulp Fiction genre specifically know for his series of Jack Reacher books) YOUR BOYS TOOK ONE HELL OF A BEATING... ANOTHER HELLLLLLL OF A BEATING!!!!!![/p][/quote]It must be cold up there for you to list the entire Villa support! A pleasure to see the hell if a beating list, as always. City Saint

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classof'77 says...
2:39am Sun 13 Jan 13

You missed Nigel Kennedy, Norwegian Saint - or is he a Birmingham supporter?
Penalty or no, at least this team is showing more backbone than the disgraceful '04-'05 lot that conceded a 3-0 lead to Villa at St Mary's, the beginning of the gutless slide into relegation. I'm hopeful this group can keep us up: at any rate it won't be for the want of trying, unlike that shameful crew.

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owen thesaints... says...
2:51am Sun 13 Jan 13

City Saint wrote:

Norwegian Saint wrote:
TO ALL MY FELLOW SAINTS FANS....
Sorry for the delay... in a cabin somewhere in Norway with very crap tinternet.... here goes....

HRH Prince William
PM David Cameron
Tom Hanks
Martin Shaw (actor)
Mark Williams (actor - you might have seen him in Harry Potter! and comedian from the Fast Show)
Brendan Gleeson, (actor, appeared in Braveheart, Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, 28 Days Later, Gangs of New York, Harry Potter films, AI...)
David Bradley (actor, Harry Potter, other films, tv and stage)
Oliver Phelps (actor, twin from Harry Potter)
Pauline McLynn (actress. Played Mrs. Doyle in 'Father Ted')
Ian Lavender (actor, best know as Private Pike in Dads Army)
Chris Marshall - My Family (the tall one), BT ads etc
Jim Hacker, best known as the Prime Minister in TV and Radio Series; Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister.
David Moran, ex-Crossroads actor.
Nessa (Ruth Jones) from Gavin & Stacey!!!!!! (Yes we know Nessa was a fictional character!)
If we're going to go with fictional characters, Lenny Godber from Porridge!
Black Sabbath members Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler, Tony Iomi
Brian Travers (UB40)
Several members of bands Duran Duran
Several members of Ocean Colour Scene
Nigel Kennedy (violinist)
Chris Storr (plays trumpet in the Jools Holland Band)
Several members of Napalm Death including lead singer Barney
Scott Gorham original Thin Lizzy guitarist
Amy Winehouse (was seen with Villa badges on a necklace, not sure if that makes her a fan or...?)
Dr Carl Chinn MBE (local historian, tv and radio presenter)
Jonny Gould, (media radio/tv broadcaster and commentator)
Emma B (radio1 presenter)
Professor and guardian columnist Marcel Berlins.
Vassos Alexander and Phil Williams (both radio 5 live announcers)
Matthew Bannister (radio 5 live?)
Emma Willis (was Griffiths), MTV presenter and model
Pete Colley - Sky Sports reporter
Floella Benjamin 80's TV Presenter
Radio Highveld DJ Brad Brown
Ian Bell (Warwickshire and England cricketer)
Joe Calzaghe - former World boxing Champ
Jim Lewis (owner of the late great Villa fan Best Mate)
Lee Sharpe (?) ex Man Utd
Jane Sixsmith (England Olympic hockey player)
Justin Rose - Golfer
Tom Parsons - high jumper
Craig Kieswetter, Somerset/England cricketer
Howard Hodgson (presenter, author, including best seller Six Feet Under)
Benjamin Zepphaniah (poet)
Jacqui Smith former MP for Redditch and former Home Secretary
Trade Union leader Bill Morris
Lord John Taylor (once briefly in the news when controversially deselected as a black Tory election candidate (Cheltenham, IIRC), also had a brief TV career as a 'legal eagle')
Sir Digby Jones, ex head of the CBI
Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England
Lee Child. (Author of books in the Pulp Fiction genre specifically know for his series of Jack Reacher books)

YOUR BOYS TOOK ONE HELL OF A BEATING... ANOTHER HELLLLLLL OF A BEATING!!!!!!
It must be cold up there for you to list the entire Villa support! A pleasure to see the hell if a beating list, as always.

Ha Ha Ha!!! I love it....good work fella!! That is one hell of a list! How on earth did you compile that? (Not sure about the Napalm Death connection, but you obviously have some inside knowledge about that!!) again..good work fella, enjoy the cold cabin in Norge!

[quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: TO ALL MY FELLOW SAINTS FANS.... Sorry for the delay... in a cabin somewhere in Norway with very crap tinternet.... here goes.... HRH Prince William PM David Cameron Tom Hanks Martin Shaw (actor) Mark Williams (actor - you might have seen him in Harry Potter! and comedian from the Fast Show) Brendan Gleeson, (actor, appeared in Braveheart, Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, 28 Days Later, Gangs of New York, Harry Potter films, AI...) David Bradley (actor, Harry Potter, other films, tv and stage) Oliver Phelps (actor, twin from Harry Potter) Pauline McLynn (actress. Played Mrs. Doyle in 'Father Ted') Ian Lavender (actor, best know as Private Pike in Dads Army) Chris Marshall - My Family (the tall one), BT ads etc Jim Hacker, best known as the Prime Minister in TV and Radio Series; Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister. David Moran, ex-Crossroads actor. Nessa (Ruth Jones) from Gavin & Stacey!!!!!! (Yes we know Nessa was a fictional character!) If we're going to go with fictional characters, Lenny Godber from Porridge! Black Sabbath members Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler, Tony Iomi Brian Travers (UB40) Several members of bands Duran Duran Several members of Ocean Colour Scene Nigel Kennedy (violinist) Chris Storr (plays trumpet in the Jools Holland Band) Several members of Napalm Death including lead singer Barney Scott Gorham original Thin Lizzy guitarist Amy Winehouse (was seen with Villa badges on a necklace, not sure if that makes her a fan or...?) Dr Carl Chinn MBE (local historian, tv and radio presenter) Jonny Gould, (media radio/tv broadcaster and commentator) Emma B (radio1 presenter) Professor and guardian columnist Marcel Berlins. Vassos Alexander and Phil Williams (both radio 5 live announcers) Matthew Bannister (radio 5 live?) Emma Willis (was Griffiths), MTV presenter and model Pete Colley - Sky Sports reporter Floella Benjamin 80's TV Presenter Radio Highveld DJ Brad Brown Ian Bell (Warwickshire and England cricketer) Joe Calzaghe - former World boxing Champ Jim Lewis (owner of the late great Villa fan Best Mate) Lee Sharpe (?) ex Man Utd Jane Sixsmith (England Olympic hockey player) Justin Rose - Golfer Tom Parsons - high jumper Craig Kieswetter, Somerset/England cricketer Howard Hodgson (presenter, author, including best seller Six Feet Under) Benjamin Zepphaniah (poet) Jacqui Smith former MP for Redditch and former Home Secretary Trade Union leader Bill Morris Lord John Taylor (once briefly in the news when controversially deselected as a black Tory election candidate (Cheltenham, IIRC), also had a brief TV career as a 'legal eagle') Sir Digby Jones, ex head of the CBI Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England Lee Child. (Author of books in the Pulp Fiction genre specifically know for his series of Jack Reacher books) YOUR BOYS TOOK ONE HELL OF A BEATING... ANOTHER HELLLLLLL OF A BEATING!!!!!![/p][/quote]It must be cold up there for you to list the entire Villa support! A pleasure to see the hell if a beating list, as always.[/p][/quote]Ha Ha Ha!!! I love it....good work fella!! That is one hell of a list! How on earth did you compile that? (Not sure about the Napalm Death connection, but you obviously have some inside knowledge about that!!) again..good work fella, enjoy the cold cabin in Norge! owen thesaints...

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hedge end bob says...
3:02am Sun 13 Jan 13

At the game today, and just watched it again on tv first. J ROD was just making sure he didn't get injured. The ref has stated in the tunnell after the game that he gave a foul for the keepers tackle on Puncheon, result penalty. Aston Villa were not beaten by the resulting penalty , they beat themselves with their inability to score one or two of the simple chances we presented to the them.
On J ROD, when is he going to start taking the chances that are coming his way in a game???. On at least four times today he was too slow to take the chance when through on goal .
A very very big 3 points were earned today by the team picked and coached by Nigel. He made it hard for a fan like me to watch the last 20 minutes of the game with the subs he put on but, he was right 100% as the record book will show. Tonight we are out of the bottom three in THE ENGLISH PREMIERSHIP, now all we have to do is stay there.
I guess this will put the, Nigel's job is on the line if he dont win the next game, to bed. Well at least until the next game we lose.
STID ....COYREDSSSSSSS.

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RedArmy1 says...
4:01am Sun 13 Jan 13

hedge end bob wrote:
At the game today, and just watched it again on tv first. J ROD was just making sure he didn't get injured. The ref has stated in the tunnell after the game that he gave a foul for the keepers tackle on Puncheon, result penalty. Aston Villa were not beaten by the resulting penalty , they beat themselves with their inability to score one or two of the simple chances we presented to the them.
On J ROD, when is he going to start taking the chances that are coming his way in a game???. On at least four times today he was too slow to take the chance when through on goal .
A very very big 3 points were earned today by the team picked and coached by Nigel. He made it hard for a fan like me to watch the last 20 minutes of the game with the subs he put on but, he was right 100% as the record book will show. Tonight we are out of the bottom three in THE ENGLISH PREMIERSHIP, now all we have to do is stay there.
I guess this will put the, Nigel's job is on the line if he dont win the next game, to bed. Well at least until the next game we lose.
STID ....COYREDSSSSSSS.

Agree.

Jrod is still developing as a Player in the PREMIERSHIP.

He needs to release the trigger earlier and hit the back of the net regularly. He has the speed ... so in training he needs to work with e.g. Clyne and race towards the goal and beat Kelvin.

Jrod has lots of untapped potential for his £7 million price tag.

Artur Borac produced a CLASS save today and saved THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON 2 Points.

BIG RESPECT for all the AWAY FANS who made it to the WHITTON ARMS yesterday (and paid the local tax of £2 entrance fee)

Went on the Saints Forum and a good link to You Tube and saints Fans after the game.

EI EI EI O
UP TO CHELSEA WE MUST GO.

RED ARMY 2013.
FOR THE VICTORIES.
LEADERSHIP IS EVERYTHING.
UP THE PREMIER LEAGUE WE GO
(above Wet Spam)

P.S WE H8 POMPEY

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RedArmy1 says...
4:09am Sun 13 Jan 13

Lee Barnard was one of the favourites in the League One Campaign ..

(like Gossie - a Daily Echo Poster from the Station Pub)

Steeeeeeve can step up and do a job NOW so ...

Shame Barney could not come on for a few minutes in a game and rifle in a GOAL - but has he got the speed and guile ??

WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

RED ARMY. FIGHT AND WIN.
COYR.

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Bring back Branfoot says...
5:41am Sun 13 Jan 13

Velleity wrote:

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.
Interesting - your first EVER post on the Daily Echo site.

I smell a WUM...

Valerie,get a life! If you don't like a post, you call them a WUM. You behave like a five year old. And btw, this is not your thread, this chap should be able to post what he wants without the likes of you gobbling off. Time you did some hoovering me thinks!

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Bring back Branfoot says...
5:45am Sun 13 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
I know Jasper Carrot is a Birmingham supporter but I reckon he rates a mention, he did do a song about our 1976 Cup Final though!

He will be over the moon that you considered he rated a mention!

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RedArmy1 says...
6:41am Sun 13 Jan 13

When we play Chelsea ..

The Manager should make the officials aware of the Frank Lampard effect...

They got a free penalty in the Cup.

WE ARE ALL ENGLAND SUPPORTERS ... however, it does not mean that every game that the circus with Frank and his contract has to continue....

Have to be wary though as they may a lot of intricate stuff in the box to induce the penalty decision.

We should have a ROBUST DEFENCE and similar to Chelsea vs QPR - soak up pressure in some parts of the game and then hit then on the break for the winning goal.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR

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RedArmy1 says...
7:31am Sun 13 Jan 13

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=SzokCtr66
a8&feature=youtu.be

SAINTS FANS AFTER THE WIN AT VILLA.

Good to see PinkScarf getting stuck in with the support.

RED ARMY.
WE ARE NUMBER ONE IN THE SOUTH. COYR

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OSPREYSAINT says...
8:20am Sun 13 Jan 13

classof'77 wrote:
You missed Nigel Kennedy, Norwegian Saint - or is he a Birmingham supporter?
Penalty or no, at least this team is showing more backbone than the disgraceful '04-'05 lot that conceded a 3-0 lead to Villa at St Mary's, the beginning of the gutless slide into relegation. I'm hopeful this group can keep us up: at any rate it won't be for the want of trying, unlike that shameful crew.

Look again! Nigel K is one of the most ardent Aston Villa supporters in the World.

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Nicole23 says...
8:20am Sun 13 Jan 13

Just watched it again, no way that was a dive, he fell over.
Even J rod apologises to the Villa players at the time.

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ghk230473 says...
8:30am Sun 13 Jan 13

Watching motd again and getting very wound up! Shearer has no loyalty what so ever towards us and we are the team who gave him his break. Vinny jones got it right about the boy lineker, jelly fish.
In the 5min segment of the game it shows 4 erratic challenges from villa players, each on Ramirez, puncheon, j-rod and shaw. R lambert got it spot on in his interview when he said he'd be more concerned about their defending. Villa are a young in-experienced team, I don't think there was any malice in the challenges but a bit reckless. If Jay had left his foot there we'd have another stretchered off, he was prevented from continuing and put off by a reckless challenge. Penalty and so was the one on punch.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
8:33am Sun 13 Jan 13

ghk230473 wrote:
Not a dive, Jay falls avoiding being kicked. Dangerous play by defender who should have stayed on his feet.
Boruc looked brave but erratic, not sure if he is the answer. Shaw was stretching to keep in the dodgy throw from boric which led to his injury.
Hope Ramirez gets his head up, he's not looking happy.

Having watched the replay many times, I have to say there was no intention to dive, JRod is the victim of histrionics from Bale and Co. which has brought on the MoD paranoia. If Villa deserved to lose it was because of the poor sportsmanship shown when Shaw went down. Ramirez isn't a player that relishes relegation battles, he is talented, but is more of a luxury player that will come good when the rest of the team start playing good open flowing football. The Sky Sports second commentator was annoying too, when Ramirez was raked by studs off the pitch in the first half, the commentator flippantly remarked that it was the Saints players fault because he left his leg there, after watching the replay he retracted the statement, by saying it was a fifty fifty challenge!

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
8:34am Sun 13 Jan 13

RedArmy1 wrote:
When we play Chelsea ..

The Manager should make the officials aware of the Frank Lampard effect...

They got a free penalty in the Cup.

WE ARE ALL ENGLAND SUPPORTERS ... however, it does not mean that every game that the circus with Frank and his contract has to continue....

Have to be wary though as they may a lot of intricate stuff in the box to induce the penalty decision.

We should have a ROBUST DEFENCE and similar to Chelsea vs QPR - soak up pressure in some parts of the game and then hit then on the break for the winning goal.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR

One Nigel Adkins
There's only one Nigel Adkins

ONE NIGEL ADKINS
THERE"S ONLY ONE NIGEL ADKINS

NIGEL IS OUR KING!

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
8:35am Sun 13 Jan 13

TWO

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Littleton-Saint says...
8:45am Sun 13 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
TWO

Yep, the Austerity FC dream is only two days away, hopefully. Liquidate them please Me'Lud! Consign football's biggest cheats to oblivion.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
8:48am Sun 13 Jan 13

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.
Interesting - your first EVER post on the Daily Echo site.

I smell a WUM...
Valerie,get a life! If you don't like a post, you call them a WUM. You behave like a five year old. And btw, this is not your thread, this chap should be able to post what he wants without the likes of you gobbling off. Time you did some hoovering me thinks!

There you go again, slagging a Saints fan off for disagreeing with someone that is saying that we, the Saints fans and Nigel Adkins are symptomatic of what is wrong in football and calling us cheats, we have every right to refute these allegations and if you had an ounce of decency in you, you would be doing the same. Until you actually get around to supporting Southampton in a positive way, we can only consider you not to be a Saints fan, the other choices are that you are a WUM, just stirring it up and are an attention seeking troll, or a misguided Skate with a paranoic hatred of anything scummer. What exactly are you? If you, however think your posting is somehow a form of constructive criticism I retract what I said, but I still say in my opinion that you are getting it wrong in the way you are going about. You say "this is not your thread", yes it is OUR thread, we are Saints supporters, this thread is a Southampton Football Club thread, and although open to all, it isn't here for the benefit of mindless idiots who only post to annoy and upset the other posters, they know who they are, you don't have to do the same if you are a grown up.

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Chipster says...
8:51am Sun 13 Jan 13

City Saint wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

City Saint wrote:
We've been denied a dozen legit penalties at home this season. We might have been given one we shouldn't have today; we'll know more after motd. I would still prefer that the calls were right, all the time. We'd have had more penalties, as a fair team, and probably have won more games, too. There's no way to reasonably expect refs to always get it right these days, the game is too fast and the divers are too clever, which leads to second- and third-guessing by refs. So bring on harsher punishments for clear simulation, and lets start getting some support for the refs with technology. Goal-line cameras for tough goal decisions, and up to three challenges a game for each team on fouls and other decisions where video replay can be studied. The purists will say no. But football is always evolving (I still remember taking more than three steps while holding the ball was a no-no for keepers, and the game is better for ditching that). Time to move on for video support, too. Saints would be winners in such an environment. No matter what jrod did today, we play the game right under Adkins. Well done on the three points, saints.
y not justify ur CHEATING player. stains = dirty club = no morality
Lol. Sorry, pot, kettle , black wouldn't even start to describe fully the irony of a p*mpey fan casting judgment on a saints player. Your club has been revealed as the single most crooked team in football for more than a decade.

Come back when you've been reborn as a non-league side with your record cleansed by liquidation, mate.

I doubt you'll last a season without more scandals as afc portsmouth.

There's no escaping your roots, after all.

The Skunts and WUM's seem to be having a right hissy fit, makes ou result al the more delicious so get over it my web-footed 3-toed freaks!
There have been plenty of times this season where we've denied blatant penalties and have been robbed of preciouys points, perhaps this goes some way to addressing the balance.
Overall we deserved all of the spoils and as for the so-called dive, yes he didn't touch him but for me he lost his balance trying to get his feet out of the way!. You can see JR saying he didn't dive, I for one believe him.
Anyway, it's 3 points in the bag an Chelsea next. THis really will be a test and I'll settle for a point, lets not be greedy! COYR's! FOPAD! :o)
Oh yeah, 2 more days to go! Tick! Tock!...............
..Lmao!

[quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: We've been denied a dozen legit penalties at home this season. We might have been given one we shouldn't have today; we'll know more after motd. I would still prefer that the calls were right, all the time. We'd have had more penalties, as a fair team, and probably have won more games, too. There's no way to reasonably expect refs to always get it right these days, the game is too fast and the divers are too clever, which leads to second- and third-guessing by refs. So bring on harsher punishments for clear simulation, and lets start getting some support for the refs with technology. Goal-line cameras for tough goal decisions, and up to three challenges a game for each team on fouls and other decisions where video replay can be studied. The purists will say no. But football is always evolving (I still remember taking more than three steps while holding the ball was a no-no for keepers, and the game is better for ditching that). Time to move on for video support, too. Saints would be winners in such an environment. No matter what jrod did today, we play the game right under Adkins. Well done on the three points, saints.[/p][/quote]y not justify ur CHEATING player. stains = dirty club = no morality[/p][/quote]Lol. Sorry, pot, kettle , black wouldn't even start to describe fully the irony of a p*mpey fan casting judgment on a saints player. Your club has been revealed as the single most crooked team in football for more than a decade. Come back when you've been reborn as a non-league side with your record cleansed by liquidation, mate. I doubt you'll last a season without more scandals as afc portsmouth. There's no escaping your roots, after all.[/p][/quote]The Skunts and WUM's seem to be having a right hissy fit, makes ou result al the more delicious so get over it my web-footed 3-toed freaks! There have been plenty of times this season where we've denied blatant penalties and have been robbed of preciouys points, perhaps this goes some way to addressing the balance. Overall we deserved all of the spoils and as for the so-called dive, yes he didn't touch him but for me he lost his balance trying to get his feet out of the way!. You can see JR saying he didn't dive, I for one believe him. Anyway, it's 3 points in the bag an Chelsea next. THis really will be a test and I'll settle for a point, lets not be greedy! COYR's! FOPAD! :o) Oh yeah, 2 more days to go! Tick! Tock!............... ..Lmao! Chipster

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OSPREYSAINT says...
8:53am Sun 13 Jan 13

Little nephew complaining that it was £8-00 for a burger and chips and the Programme was a fiver, that's his pocket money gone down the tubes!

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
8:54am Sun 13 Jan 13

Littleton-Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
TWO
Yep, the Austerity FC dream is only two days away, hopefully. Liquidate them please Me'Lud! Consign football's biggest cheats to oblivion.

Personally I'd like to see him toy with the skunts by setting the value of the Fratton Dump just out of their reach. Say £4.5m so the pressure is on for them to proceed but they just can't get the dosh together. That would be nice.

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skiptonsaint says...
8:55am Sun 13 Jan 13

It was about time a keeper played well and got us three points

If that performance had been from a new 5 million pound keeper we would all be drooling today

We have to try and get this new centre half in soon...

The reality is we prob wont get anything at chelsea and man u if we have a patched up defence. Cant see shaw back for Chelsea. But you never know.

We would need ramirez to really explode into life in the prem and jrod to start taking chances and a bit of luck. But qpr and swansea did it. It is a bit of a bad atmosphere there. If they dont get an early goal we could have a chance

Everton is a winnable game though and all focus must be on that.

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ghk230473 says...
9:05am Sun 13 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Not a dive, Jay falls avoiding being kicked. Dangerous play by defender who should have stayed on his feet.
Boruc looked brave but erratic, not sure if he is the answer. Shaw was stretching to keep in the dodgy throw from boric which led to his injury.
Hope Ramirez gets his head up, he's not looking happy.
Having watched the replay many times, I have to say there was no intention to dive, JRod is the victim of histrionics from Bale and Co. which has brought on the MoD paranoia. If Villa deserved to lose it was because of the poor sportsmanship shown when Shaw went down. Ramirez isn't a player that relishes relegation battles, he is talented, but is more of a luxury player that will come good when the rest of the team start playing good open flowing football. The Sky Sports second commentator was annoying too, when Ramirez was raked by studs off the pitch in the first half, the commentator flippantly remarked that it was the Saints players fault because he left his leg there, after watching the replay he retracted the statement, by saying it was a fifty fifty challenge!

The challenge on Ramirez again was reckless, he was lucky that he did in the end back out of it. The villa player has gone in both legs off the ground, one going in studs up! What control has he got? None.
Like I mentioned earlier I don't think any challenges were malicious but reckless and out of control. I do agree bale and co haven't helped and diving does need to be erased from the game, but Jay rod didn't dive and the challenge on him and punch was reckless like the others.

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Littleton-Saint says...
9:19am Sun 13 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Littleton-Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
TWO
Yep, the Austerity FC dream is only two days away, hopefully. Liquidate them please Me'Lud! Consign football's biggest cheats to oblivion.
Personally I'd like to see him toy with the skunts by setting the value of the Fratton Dump just out of their reach. Say £4.5m so the pressure is on for them to proceed but they just can't get the dosh together. That would be nice.

Yes, watching them go down slow in that manner would be preferable and indeed, highly desirable. A fitting tribute would be the judge re-presenting the Trust with the FA Cup as he delivers the Gladiator -style, fatal blow to a club and diminished support, unworthy of any further meaningful existence.

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german saint says...
9:26am Sun 13 Jan 13

watch the darts instead then.... muppet....

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:31am Sun 13 Jan 13

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Not a dive, Jay falls avoiding being kicked. Dangerous play by defender who should have stayed on his feet.
Boruc looked brave but erratic, not sure if he is the answer. Shaw was stretching to keep in the dodgy throw from boric which led to his injury.
Hope Ramirez gets his head up, he's not looking happy.
Having watched the replay many times, I have to say there was no intention to dive, JRod is the victim of histrionics from Bale and Co. which has brought on the MoD paranoia. If Villa deserved to lose it was because of the poor sportsmanship shown when Shaw went down. Ramirez isn't a player that relishes relegation battles, he is talented, but is more of a luxury player that will come good when the rest of the team start playing good open flowing football. The Sky Sports second commentator was annoying too, when Ramirez was raked by studs off the pitch in the first half, the commentator flippantly remarked that it was the Saints players fault because he left his leg there, after watching the replay he retracted the statement, by saying it was a fifty fifty challenge!
The challenge on Ramirez again was reckless, he was lucky that he did in the end back out of it. The villa player has gone in both legs off the ground, one going in studs up! What control has he got? None.
Like I mentioned earlier I don't think any challenges were malicious but reckless and out of control. I do agree bale and co haven't helped and diving does need to be erased from the game, but Jay rod didn't dive and the challenge on him and punch was reckless like the others.

In my opinion you are spot on GHK, thanks for a well thought out opinion, and no, I must stress I am not being sarcastic or anything, I agree with your statement.

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Littleton-Saint says...
9:32am Sun 13 Jan 13

Apologies to other bloggers for deviating from the J-Rod incident - we ground out a deserved win and that's all that matters to me. Punch hit the woodwork and Shawsie could have scored a couple of goals. We were worthy winners. Roll on Chelski - it's time for revenge.

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ghk230473 says...
9:34am Sun 13 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Not a dive, Jay falls avoiding being kicked. Dangerous play by defender who should have stayed on his feet.
Boruc looked brave but erratic, not sure if he is the answer. Shaw was stretching to keep in the dodgy throw from boric which led to his injury.
Hope Ramirez gets his head up, he's not looking happy.
Having watched the replay many times, I have to say there was no intention to dive, JRod is the victim of histrionics from Bale and Co. which has brought on the MoD paranoia. If Villa deserved to lose it was because of the poor sportsmanship shown when Shaw went down. Ramirez isn't a player that relishes relegation battles, he is talented, but is more of a luxury player that will come good when the rest of the team start playing good open flowing football. The Sky Sports second commentator was annoying too, when Ramirez was raked by studs off the pitch in the first half, the commentator flippantly remarked that it was the Saints players fault because he left his leg there, after watching the replay he retracted the statement, by saying it was a fifty fifty challenge!
The challenge on Ramirez again was reckless, he was lucky that he did in the end back out of it. The villa player has gone in both legs off the ground, one going in studs up! What control has he got? None.
Like I mentioned earlier I don't think any challenges were malicious but reckless and out of control. I do agree bale and co haven't helped and diving does need to be erased from the game, but Jay rod didn't dive and the challenge on him and punch was reckless like the others.
In my opinion you are spot on GHK, thanks for a well thought out opinion, and no, I must stress I am not being sarcastic or anything, I agree with your statement.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day!

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Not a dive, Jay falls avoiding being kicked. Dangerous play by defender who should have stayed on his feet. Boruc looked brave but erratic, not sure if he is the answer. Shaw was stretching to keep in the dodgy throw from boric which led to his injury. Hope Ramirez gets his head up, he's not looking happy.[/p][/quote]Having watched the replay many times, I have to say there was no intention to dive, JRod is the victim of histrionics from Bale and Co. which has brought on the MoD paranoia. If Villa deserved to lose it was because of the poor sportsmanship shown when Shaw went down. Ramirez isn't a player that relishes relegation battles, he is talented, but is more of a luxury player that will come good when the rest of the team start playing good open flowing football. The Sky Sports second commentator was annoying too, when Ramirez was raked by studs off the pitch in the first half, the commentator flippantly remarked that it was the Saints players fault because he left his leg there, after watching the replay he retracted the statement, by saying it was a fifty fifty challenge![/p][/quote]The challenge on Ramirez again was reckless, he was lucky that he did in the end back out of it. The villa player has gone in both legs off the ground, one going in studs up! What control has he got? None. Like I mentioned earlier I don't think any challenges were malicious but reckless and out of control. I do agree bale and co haven't helped and diving does need to be erased from the game, but Jay rod didn't dive and the challenge on him and punch was reckless like the others.[/p][/quote]In my opinion you are spot on GHK, thanks for a well thought out opinion, and no, I must stress I am not being sarcastic or anything, I agree with your statement.[/p][/quote]Even a broken clock is right twice a day! ghk230473

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
9:36am Sun 13 Jan 13

Littleton-Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Littleton-Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
TWO
Yep, the Austerity FC dream is only two days away, hopefully. Liquidate them please Me'Lud! Consign football's biggest cheats to oblivion.
Personally I'd like to see him toy with the skunts by setting the value of the Fratton Dump just out of their reach. Say £4.5m so the pressure is on for them to proceed but they just can't get the dosh together. That would be nice.
Yes, watching them go down slow in that manner would be preferable and indeed, highly desirable. A fitting tribute would be the judge re-presenting the Trust with the FA Cup as he delivers the Gladiator -style, fatal blow to a club and diminished support, unworthy of any further meaningful existence.

Yes in his summing up speech he should catalogue all their crimes and evil doings, he should lambast them for representing all that is wrong in the modern game. He could point to our goodselves as an example of what is good and bright and honest an example of the way it should be done with pride and morality. Mind you I'm sure they still wouldn't listen.

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Littleton-Saint says...
9:38am Sun 13 Jan 13

german saint wrote:
watch the darts instead then.... muppet....

The club obsessed with history will soon be history!

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classof'77 says...
9:40am Sun 13 Jan 13

You missed out Nigel Kennedy, Norwegian Saint - or is he a Birmingham supporter?
Penalty or no, at least this team is showing more backbone than the disgraceful '04-'05 lot that conceded a 3-0 lead to Villa at St Mary's, the beginning of the gutless slide into relegation. I'm hopeful this group can keep us up: at any rate it won't be for the want of trying, unlike that shameful crew.

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kent141 says...
9:43am Sun 13 Jan 13

Plenty of away tickets left unsold for Chelsea.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:44am Sun 13 Jan 13

Off out with the Mutt, while I am away has anyone any idea why Mark Halsey was in charge? Chris Foy was the appointed Referee, do you think the outcome would have been different had he been the Referee, and did fate deal us a decent card for once?

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:50am Sun 13 Jan 13

Has anyone ever told us that there are plenty of very expensive tickets available for the Chelsea game? I think we should be kept informed of these things. I guess Abramovich will be keen to fleece as many fans as he can if he is to get PG to replace RB?

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
9:55am Sun 13 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Has anyone ever told us that there are plenty of very expensive tickets available for the Chelsea game? I think we should be kept informed of these things. I guess Abramovich will be keen to fleece as many fans as he can if he is to get PG to replace RB?

Yes someone mentioned it. Trouble is they said exactly the same about Villa and that was a sell out so they turned out to be a lying toe rag.

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Velleity says...
9:57am Sun 13 Jan 13

kent141 wrote:
Plenty of away tickets left unsold for Chelsea.

ShhhhHH!

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kent141 says...
9:58am Sun 13 Jan 13

I think your Boycott of the Chelsea game is a great idea, only a total simpleton would pay £47 for a ticket.

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Rob The Saint NOT in NZ says...
10:03am Sun 13 Jan 13

kent141 wrote:
I think your Boycott of the Chelsea game is a great idea, only a total simpleton would pay £47 for a ticket.

Nice to know you've bought yourself a ticket!

Always knew you'd see the light!

COYR!

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Five Trophies Between Us says...
10:13am Sun 13 Jan 13

Littleton-Saint wrote:
Apologies to other bloggers for deviating from the J-Rod incident - we ground out a deserved win and that's all that matters to me. Punch hit the woodwork and Shawsie could have scored a couple of goals. We were worthy winners. Roll on Chelski - it's time for revenge.

roll on 2014. its time for revenge for the years 1885 to 1975 n 1977 to 2013. bet u cant wait

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Five Trophies Between Us says...
10:15am Sun 13 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
TWO

2 x league winners. something u will never be. haha

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Red n White says...
10:23am Sun 13 Jan 13

For fans who have said that if Portsmouth go bust they wouldn't support Southampton, an awful lot of them seem to have watched the match today when their's was cancelled.

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Confucious says...
10:25am Sun 13 Jan 13

I'm not one to criticise Nigel, but I think a caution from the FA may be in order after his ill advised post match comments.

I have not seen a more clear cut penalty since Vincente shot dead Alioni in the 1987 Sicilian league match between AC Catania and Siracusa (though this incident was associated with a long running family dispute as well as normal match tension).

Anyhow, it's disrespectful of Nigel to claim that Jay wasn't touched. Mark Halsey had a close view and spotted the blatant trip straight away.

I think Nigel should apologise to Halsey, swallow his pride and admit the ref got it right.

It might also be in order if the next time Halsey takes a game at St Marys we give him a chorus of "The referee's a diamond"

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Mush On The Beach says...
10:27am Sun 13 Jan 13

Great result, as is our record against the teams around us and will prove the platform to pull away from the drop zone as the season moves into the latter stages.
It was a dodgy penalty decision but how many have we not been given when deserved.

Our attacking play is great to watch and if we could get a little more clinical in the box games like yesterday would be over quicker. Then again, thinking back to the Stoke game I’ve just realised that isn’t ever going to happen.
It’s the Southampton way and I wouldn’t change it for anything.

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warrens 76 says...
10:29am Sun 13 Jan 13

DisplacedFan wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
he didnt touch me. but i didnt dive

CHEATER. CHEATER CHEATER

the only way ur small club will stay up this yr. cheating stadium, cheating players. fairy fans
You'll need to that and much, much more to stay up. What a shame you must revert to name calling, you sad little man.

How old are you?

that really is infant school playground stuff.....have you your parents permission to be on here?

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Scarborosaint says...
10:31am Sun 13 Jan 13

Some decisions go your way some don't , another day Ramirez goal v arsenal might have stood, clean sheet 3 points , great result got some hard games coming up , nothing to lose on Wednesday , a free game any sort of result will be a bonus

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Baddesley Bill says...
10:46am Sun 13 Jan 13

It's really quite funny how our skunt guests bang on about a history that only their grandads could have experienced...I'm more concerned about the here and now.

Superb 3pts and fully deserved yesterday. However, form suggests that we will be back in the relegation mix by the time we approach the Wigan game. I'd take 3pts from the next three games right now! COYR

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SFCOLDBOY says...
10:54am Sun 13 Jan 13

owen thesaints... wrote:

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.
Right,let's get this sorted. The ref gave the penalty for the challenge on Puncheon, but played advantage cos he thought we might score. This comes from the radio solent commentator who spoke to the ref immediately after the game, so all you tw#ts slagging off J-Rod for diving haven't got a feckin leg to stand on! Great win today COYR. Shame Villa Park was such a shitehole and the disrespect to away support was shameful. Even the pub near the ground wanted £3 to get in and no beer on sale to away fans inside!! The coppers said to us it was worth the fee to go in the pub because it guaranteed us no aggro!! Very proud to be a saint as always

I agree with the view that the ref gave the pen because of the foul on Puncheon.
I went to the match and I also called it at the time.
The ref appeared to put his whistle to his mouth then declined to whistle, I can only think that he expected us to convert the next shot into a goal by Rodregues.
Rickie Lambert also shouted immeadiatly Puncheon was bowled over.
An odd decision initially by the ref, I agree, but he put it right after.

Bring on Rickie-------
SFC 1--Villa 0

COYS.

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
10:59am Sun 13 Jan 13

We were easily the better side. It's funny how you get a different perspective at the game than watching it on tv or listening on the radio. The four of us thought Rickie, despite some great touches and of course the invincible penalty, had an off day and Ramirez wasn't bad at all. Clyne made a few slips due to being rusty and Jay Rod worked his socks off. We had a great chance to go 2-0 and Jay didn't take it and that was the turning point. Villa increasingly got back into the game after that and in the end we had to defend the one goal advantage - and to me that is the massive plus point, we finally saw a game out without conceding.

The pen was the other end from us but when it happened Dave instantly said the ref had played advantage and then pointed to the spot. It was the foul on Punch that he awarded.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
11:05am Sun 13 Jan 13

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Not a dive, Jay falls avoiding being kicked. Dangerous play by defender who should have stayed on his feet.
Boruc looked brave but erratic, not sure if he is the answer. Shaw was stretching to keep in the dodgy throw from boric which led to his injury.
Hope Ramirez gets his head up, he's not looking happy.
Having watched the replay many times, I have to say there was no intention to dive, JRod is the victim of histrionics from Bale and Co. which has brought on the MoD paranoia. If Villa deserved to lose it was because of the poor sportsmanship shown when Shaw went down. Ramirez isn't a player that relishes relegation battles, he is talented, but is more of a luxury player that will come good when the rest of the team start playing good open flowing football. The Sky Sports second commentator was annoying too, when Ramirez was raked by studs off the pitch in the first half, the commentator flippantly remarked that it was the Saints players fault because he left his leg there, after watching the replay he retracted the statement, by saying it was a fifty fifty challenge!
The challenge on Ramirez again was reckless, he was lucky that he did in the end back out of it. The villa player has gone in both legs off the ground, one going in studs up! What control has he got? None.
Like I mentioned earlier I don't think any challenges were malicious but reckless and out of control. I do agree bale and co haven't helped and diving does need to be erased from the game, but Jay rod didn't dive and the challenge on him and punch was reckless like the others.
In my opinion you are spot on GHK, thanks for a well thought out opinion, and no, I must stress I am not being sarcastic or anything, I agree with your statement.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day!

Talking about time on here is a sensitive subject and may upset our blue phew WUMs so best avoided.

[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Not a dive, Jay falls avoiding being kicked. Dangerous play by defender who should have stayed on his feet. Boruc looked brave but erratic, not sure if he is the answer. Shaw was stretching to keep in the dodgy throw from boric which led to his injury. Hope Ramirez gets his head up, he's not looking happy.[/p][/quote]Having watched the replay many times, I have to say there was no intention to dive, JRod is the victim of histrionics from Bale and Co. which has brought on the MoD paranoia. If Villa deserved to lose it was because of the poor sportsmanship shown when Shaw went down. Ramirez isn't a player that relishes relegation battles, he is talented, but is more of a luxury player that will come good when the rest of the team start playing good open flowing football. The Sky Sports second commentator was annoying too, when Ramirez was raked by studs off the pitch in the first half, the commentator flippantly remarked that it was the Saints players fault because he left his leg there, after watching the replay he retracted the statement, by saying it was a fifty fifty challenge![/p][/quote]The challenge on Ramirez again was reckless, he was lucky that he did in the end back out of it. The villa player has gone in both legs off the ground, one going in studs up! What control has he got? None. Like I mentioned earlier I don't think any challenges were malicious but reckless and out of control. I do agree bale and co haven't helped and diving does need to be erased from the game, but Jay rod didn't dive and the challenge on him and punch was reckless like the others.[/p][/quote]In my opinion you are spot on GHK, thanks for a well thought out opinion, and no, I must stress I am not being sarcastic or anything, I agree with your statement.[/p][/quote]Even a broken clock is right twice a day![/p][/quote]Talking about time on here is a sensitive subject and may upset our blue phew WUMs so best avoided. OSPREYSAINT

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Five Trophies Between Us says...
11:12am Sun 13 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote: Not a dive, Jay falls avoiding being kicked. Dangerous play by defender who should have stayed on his feet. Boruc looked brave but erratic, not sure if he is the answer. Shaw was stretching to keep in the dodgy throw from boric which led to his injury. Hope Ramirez gets his head up, he's not looking happy.
Having watched the replay many times, I have to say there was no intention to dive, JRod is the victim of histrionics from Bale and Co. which has brought on the MoD paranoia. If Villa deserved to lose it was because of the poor sportsmanship shown when Shaw went down. Ramirez isn't a player that relishes relegation battles, he is talented, but is more of a luxury player that will come good when the rest of the team start playing good open flowing football. The Sky Sports second commentator was annoying too, when Ramirez was raked by studs off the pitch in the first half, the commentator flippantly remarked that it was the Saints players fault because he left his leg there, after watching the replay he retracted the statement, by saying it was a fifty fifty challenge!
The challenge on Ramirez again was reckless, he was lucky that he did in the end back out of it. The villa player has gone in both legs off the ground, one going in studs up! What control has he got? None. Like I mentioned earlier I don't think any challenges were malicious but reckless and out of control. I do agree bale and co haven't helped and diving does need to be erased from the game, but Jay rod didn't dive and the challenge on him and punch was reckless like the others.
In my opinion you are spot on GHK, thanks for a well thought out opinion, and no, I must stress I am not being sarcastic or anything, I agree with your statement.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day!
Talking about time on here is a sensitive subject and may upset our blue phew WUMs so best avoided.

Talkin bout trophies on here is even more sensitive. u lot just dont like it

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Not a dive, Jay falls avoiding being kicked. Dangerous play by defender who should have stayed on his feet. Boruc looked brave but erratic, not sure if he is the answer. Shaw was stretching to keep in the dodgy throw from boric which led to his injury. Hope Ramirez gets his head up, he's not looking happy.[/p][/quote]Having watched the replay many times, I have to say there was no intention to dive, JRod is the victim of histrionics from Bale and Co. which has brought on the MoD paranoia. If Villa deserved to lose it was because of the poor sportsmanship shown when Shaw went down. Ramirez isn't a player that relishes relegation battles, he is talented, but is more of a luxury player that will come good when the rest of the team start playing good open flowing football. The Sky Sports second commentator was annoying too, when Ramirez was raked by studs off the pitch in the first half, the commentator flippantly remarked that it was the Saints players fault because he left his leg there, after watching the replay he retracted the statement, by saying it was a fifty fifty challenge![/p][/quote]The challenge on Ramirez again was reckless, he was lucky that he did in the end back out of it. The villa player has gone in both legs off the ground, one going in studs up! What control has he got? None. Like I mentioned earlier I don't think any challenges were malicious but reckless and out of control. I do agree bale and co haven't helped and diving does need to be erased from the game, but Jay rod didn't dive and the challenge on him and punch was reckless like the others.[/p][/quote]In my opinion you are spot on GHK, thanks for a well thought out opinion, and no, I must stress I am not being sarcastic or anything, I agree with your statement.[/p][/quote]Even a broken clock is right twice a day![/p][/quote]Talking about time on here is a sensitive subject and may upset our blue phew WUMs so best avoided.[/p][/quote]Talkin bout trophies on here is even more sensitive. u lot just dont like it Five Trophies Between Us

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rocketone says...
11:14am Sun 13 Jan 13

Velleity wrote:

kent141 wrote:
Plenty of away tickets left unsold for Chelsea.
ShhhhHH!

Plenty of home tickets left for all of PFC games!

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rocketone says...
11:25am Sun 13 Jan 13

rocketone wrote:

Velleity wrote:

kent141 wrote:
Plenty of away tickets left unsold for Chelsea.
ShhhhHH!
Plenty of home tickets left for all of PFC games!

I said plenty of home tickets left for ALL. PFC games.
But then you aren''t a football fan are you?

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magnette says...
11:26am Sun 13 Jan 13

2010chappy wrote:

magnette wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.
.... and you are?

If you're an unhappy Villa fan then here's my honest assessment having watched a live stream and listened to Nigel's interview.
1. There's doubt as to whether the pen was given for THAT tackle anyway. Some suggest it might have been for a foul on Puncheon by Guzen. If so, Nigel has already said it wasn't a foul and I agree.
2. Assuming, however, that it was given for the challenge on Rodriguez, what Nigel is saying makes some sense. I posted earlier that had Rodriguez not moved his right leg back, he would probably have been caught anyway.
3. However, I also posted that I thought (and I still think) that Rodriguez dived. His leg came back, his body fell forwards and the timing was exactly as the mis-timed tackle came in. However, there's huge doubt about that. I could be wrong. So those suggesting Rodriguez should face a punishment for deliberate diving are plain dumb. (Lineker, have you apologised yet?) Rodriguez may well have fallen simply because of his momentum.
4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul. I remember an example when Thierry Henry, playing for Arsenal against Saints, was about to be tackled by a Saints' player (Chris Marsden). Marsden lunged two-footed towards the ball (not the player), but the ball was just in front of Henry, who then dragged the ball back towards himself and jumped backwards with the ball. Thus, Marsden didn't make contact with either the ball or the player and ended up looking a bit silly jumping two footed towards what was the turf between himself and the ball. However, a foul was given and Marsden saw red for dangerous play.

I can understand why Villa fans feel hard done by today but how about the countless late challenges by Villa players (esp. in the second half) which gave away the initiative on many occasions? Example? The one which left Shaw on a stretcher. It was hard to see if there was any intent, but the player did nothing to avoid following through on Shaw, yet play carried on and was only stopped (to Villa's annoyance) when it was clear Shaw was in trouble. On another occasion (maybe first half) Ramirez went for a lose, knee-high ball, won it and a Villa player simply followed through into Ramirez's foot. No foul given! So, don’t blame Halsey for losing, he did all he could to help you.

If you are a Villa fan, I'd stop moaning and start focussing on how you'll keep hold of your 'stars' when you go down.
Dangerous Play is an indirect freekick not a penalty.
Dangerous play is a straight red card, 3 game ban and direct free kick!!!

From Wikipedia,

An indirect free kick is a method of restarting play in a game of association football. Unlike a direct free kick, a goal may not be scored directly from the kick. The law was derived from the Sheffield Rules that stated that no goal could be scored from a free kick. This law was absorbed into the Laws of the Game in 1877 and later adapted to allow direct free kicks as a result of dangerous play.

[quote][p][bold]2010chappy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]magnette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonah127[/bold] wrote: Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football. His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it. Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.[/p][/quote].... and you are? If you're an unhappy Villa fan then here's my honest assessment having watched a live stream and listened to Nigel's interview. 1. There's doubt as to whether the pen was given for THAT tackle anyway. Some suggest it might have been for a foul on Puncheon by Guzen. If so, Nigel has already said it wasn't a foul and I agree. 2. Assuming, however, that it was given for the challenge on Rodriguez, what Nigel is saying makes some sense. I posted earlier that had Rodriguez not moved his right leg back, he would probably have been caught anyway. 3. However, I also posted that I thought (and I still think) that Rodriguez dived. His leg came back, his body fell forwards and the timing was exactly as the mis-timed tackle came in. However, there's huge doubt about that. I could be wrong. So those suggesting Rodriguez should face a punishment for deliberate diving are plain dumb. (Lineker, have you apologised yet?) Rodriguez may well have fallen simply because of his momentum. 4. Most importantly, you DON'T need contact for it to have been considered dangerous and thus a foul. I remember an example when Thierry Henry, playing for Arsenal against Saints, was about to be tackled by a Saints' player (Chris Marsden). Marsden lunged two-footed towards the ball (not the player), but the ball was just in front of Henry, who then dragged the ball back towards himself and jumped backwards with the ball. Thus, Marsden didn't make contact with either the ball or the player and ended up looking a bit silly jumping two footed towards what was the turf between himself and the ball. However, a foul was given and Marsden saw red for dangerous play. I can understand why Villa fans feel hard done by today but how about the countless late challenges by Villa players (esp. in the second half) which gave away the initiative on many occasions? Example? The one which left Shaw on a stretcher. It was hard to see if there was any intent, but the player did nothing to avoid following through on Shaw, yet play carried on and was only stopped (to Villa's annoyance) when it was clear Shaw was in trouble. On another occasion (maybe first half) Ramirez went for a lose, knee-high ball, won it and a Villa player simply followed through into Ramirez's foot. No foul given! So, don’t blame Halsey for losing, he did all he could to help you. If you are a Villa fan, I'd stop moaning and start focussing on how you'll keep hold of your 'stars' when you go down.[/p][/quote]Dangerous Play is an indirect freekick not a penalty.[/p][/quote]Dangerous play is a straight red card, 3 game ban and direct free kick!!![/p][/quote]From Wikipedia, An indirect free kick is a method of restarting play in a game of association football. Unlike a direct free kick, a goal may not be scored directly from the kick. The law was derived from the Sheffield Rules that stated that no goal could be scored from a free kick. This law was absorbed into the Laws of the Game in 1877 and later adapted to allow direct free kicks as a result of dangerous play. magnette

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OSPREYSAINT says...
11:26am Sun 13 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Off out with the Mutt, while I am away has anyone any idea why Mark Halsey was in charge? Chris Foy was the appointed Referee, do you think the outcome would have been different had he been the Referee, and did fate deal us a decent card for once?

No response? OK on another point of view then, the Penalty is said to have been given for the Guzan tackle on Puncheon, however the Referee was looking for a reason NOT to award it, and had JRod scored his dilemma would have been eased, it was more down to hesitation that the controversy emerged, not the apparent dive.

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kent141 says...
11:28am Sun 13 Jan 13

rocketone wrote:

Velleity wrote:

kent141 wrote:
Plenty of away tickets left unsold for Chelsea.
ShhhhHH!
Plenty of home tickets left for all of PFC games!

Very clever reply indeed , you are one of the brighter simpletons on here.

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kent141 says...
11:34am Sun 13 Jan 13

The average IQ of a saints fan isent that great but if anyone can tell me how far the universe will expand in the next 60 minutes or explain the paradox of the infinity hotel in 30 words or less i will never post on here again ;0)

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Strasbourg Saint says...
11:37am Sun 13 Jan 13

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Not a dive, Jay falls avoiding being kicked. Dangerous play by defender who should have stayed on his feet.
Boruc looked brave but erratic, not sure if he is the answer. Shaw was stretching to keep in the dodgy throw from boric which led to his injury.
Hope Ramirez gets his head up, he's not looking happy.
Having watched the replay many times, I have to say there was no intention to dive, JRod is the victim of histrionics from Bale and Co. which has brought on the MoD paranoia. If Villa deserved to lose it was because of the poor sportsmanship shown when Shaw went down. Ramirez isn't a player that relishes relegation battles, he is talented, but is more of a luxury player that will come good when the rest of the team start playing good open flowing football. The Sky Sports second commentator was annoying too, when Ramirez was raked by studs off the pitch in the first half, the commentator flippantly remarked that it was the Saints players fault because he left his leg there, after watching the replay he retracted the statement, by saying it was a fifty fifty challenge!
The challenge on Ramirez again was reckless, he was lucky that he did in the end back out of it. The villa player has gone in both legs off the ground, one going in studs up! What control has he got? None.
Like I mentioned earlier I don't think any challenges were malicious but reckless and out of control. I do agree bale and co haven't helped and diving does need to be erased from the game, but Jay rod didn't dive and the challenge on him and punch was reckless like the others.
In my opinion you are spot on GHK, thanks for a well thought out opinion, and no, I must stress I am not being sarcastic or anything, I agree with your statement.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day!

Totally agree about the tackle on Ramirez (and other reckless Villa tackles) - and the co-commentator's 'semi retraction'.

Talking of retractions, especially as the official version is that the penalty was given for a foul by Guzan (harsh, if true), does anyone know how we can start a campaign to get Lineker (BBC) and whoever it was on Sky (Tony Cottee, was it?) to make public apologies for their comments about Jay diving?

For the record, here's a bit of what I have said about the 'Jay situation':
1. at the time, I screamed 'penalty'.
2. having watched a reply, I said, 'he dived'.
3. I watched a couple more times and said, 'I still think he dived, timing his fall, but added that there was huge doubt and he could have fallen because he had to get his foot out of the way of a lunge'.

Most on here take the view that he didn't dive. I'm still unsure but AM sure he had to get his foot out of the way, so am prepared to accept that it was THAT movement which caused him to fall.

So, Jay, if my accusations are wrong, I apologise.

In the end, if the pen was for Guzan on Punch, Nigel (and I) think we got lucky ..... and it's about-bl00dy-time!

[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Not a dive, Jay falls avoiding being kicked. Dangerous play by defender who should have stayed on his feet. Boruc looked brave but erratic, not sure if he is the answer. Shaw was stretching to keep in the dodgy throw from boric which led to his injury. Hope Ramirez gets his head up, he's not looking happy.[/p][/quote]Having watched the replay many times, I have to say there was no intention to dive, JRod is the victim of histrionics from Bale and Co. which has brought on the MoD paranoia. If Villa deserved to lose it was because of the poor sportsmanship shown when Shaw went down. Ramirez isn't a player that relishes relegation battles, he is talented, but is more of a luxury player that will come good when the rest of the team start playing good open flowing football. The Sky Sports second commentator was annoying too, when Ramirez was raked by studs off the pitch in the first half, the commentator flippantly remarked that it was the Saints players fault because he left his leg there, after watching the replay he retracted the statement, by saying it was a fifty fifty challenge![/p][/quote]The challenge on Ramirez again was reckless, he was lucky that he did in the end back out of it. The villa player has gone in both legs off the ground, one going in studs up! What control has he got? None. Like I mentioned earlier I don't think any challenges were malicious but reckless and out of control. I do agree bale and co haven't helped and diving does need to be erased from the game, but Jay rod didn't dive and the challenge on him and punch was reckless like the others.[/p][/quote]In my opinion you are spot on GHK, thanks for a well thought out opinion, and no, I must stress I am not being sarcastic or anything, I agree with your statement.[/p][/quote]Even a broken clock is right twice a day![/p][/quote]Totally agree about the tackle on Ramirez (and other reckless Villa tackles) - and the co-commentator's 'semi retraction'. Talking of retractions, especially as the official version is that the penalty was given for a foul by Guzan (harsh, if true), does anyone know how we can start a campaign to get Lineker (BBC) and whoever it was on Sky (Tony Cottee, was it?) to make public apologies for their comments about Jay diving? For the record, here's a bit of what I have said about the 'Jay situation': 1. at the time, I screamed 'penalty'. 2. having watched a reply, I said, 'he dived'. 3. I watched a couple more times and said, 'I still think he dived, timing his fall, but added that there was huge doubt and he could have fallen because he had to get his foot out of the way of a lunge'. Most on here take the view that he didn't dive. I'm still unsure but AM sure he had to get his foot out of the way, so am prepared to accept that it was THAT movement which caused him to fall. So, Jay, if my accusations are wrong, I apologise. In the end, if the pen was for Guzan on Punch, Nigel (and I) think we got lucky ..... and it's about-bl00dy-time! Strasbourg Saint

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Strasbourg Saint says...
11:40am Sun 13 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Off out with the Mutt, while I am away has anyone any idea why Mark Halsey was in charge? Chris Foy was the appointed Referee, do you think the outcome would have been different had he been the Referee, and did fate deal us a decent card for once?
No response? OK on another point of view then, the Penalty is said to have been given for the Guzan tackle on Puncheon, however the Referee was looking for a reason NOT to award it, and had JRod scored his dilemma would have been eased, it was more down to hesitation that the controversy emerged, not the apparent dive.

Foy was ill, Osprey.

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Five Trophies Between Us says...
11:43am Sun 13 Jan 13

kent141 wrote:

rocketone wrote:
Velleity wrote:
kent141 wrote: Plenty of away tickets left unsold for Chelsea.
ShhhhHH!
Plenty of home tickets left for all of PFC games!
Very clever reply indeed , you are one of the brighter simpletons on here.

plenty of trophies every yr to win. 250 plus chances 4 ur club, n the stains have only won 1. y have u been so bad?

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MGRA says...
11:47am Sun 13 Jan 13

saintshorse101 wrote:

owen thesaints... wrote:

Jonah127 wrote: Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football. His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it. Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.
Right,let's get this sorted. The ref gave the penalty for the challenge on Puncheon, but played advantage cos he thought we might score. This comes from the radio solent commentator who spoke to the ref immediately after the game, so all you tw#ts slagging off J-Rod for diving haven't got a feckin leg to stand on! Great win today COYR. Shame Villa Park was such a shitehole and the disrespect to away support was shameful. Even the pub near the ground wanted £3 to get in and no beer on sale to away fans inside!! The coppers said to us it was worth the fee to go in the pub because it guaranteed us no aggro!! Very proud to be a saint as always
not heard the commentators version, however if this is true, and i have no reason to think otherwise, then we should start a campaign to get lineker to apologise to Jrod on MOTD. dosent mater if he dived or not, if the ref gave the pen for the foul on punch (after advantage), all Jrod was doing was getting out of the way. i thought when i saw it on MOTD that when on the deck Jrod said `he never touched me` or words like that and looked confused that the ref had blown.
still as others have said its about time we had some luck go or way!
its going to be a different saints team that go to chelski on tuesday and we might, just might give them a game, a point would be a good point from that game.

well said,,, smug ar5eh0les on MoTD let Bale/Cole/Suarez off the hook whenever they can but pounced on JayRod who immediately got up and said "I did not dive and at no time claimed a pen,,,,"

[quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owen thesaints...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonah127[/bold] wrote: Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football. His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it. Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.[/p][/quote]Right,let's get this sorted. The ref gave the penalty for the challenge on Puncheon, but played advantage cos he thought we might score. This comes from the radio solent commentator who spoke to the ref immediately after the game, so all you tw#ts slagging off J-Rod for diving haven't got a feckin leg to stand on! Great win today COYR. Shame Villa Park was such a shitehole and the disrespect to away support was shameful. Even the pub near the ground wanted £3 to get in and no beer on sale to away fans inside!! The coppers said to us it was worth the fee to go in the pub because it guaranteed us no aggro!! Very proud to be a saint as always[/p][/quote]not heard the commentators version, however if this is true, and i have no reason to think otherwise, then we should start a campaign to get lineker to apologise to Jrod on MOTD. dosent mater if he dived or not, if the ref gave the pen for the foul on punch (after advantage), all Jrod was doing was getting out of the way. i thought when i saw it on MOTD that when on the deck Jrod said `he never touched me` or words like that and looked confused that the ref had blown. still as others have said its about time we had some luck go or way! its going to be a different saints team that go to chelski on tuesday and we might, just might give them a game, a point would be a good point from that game.[/p][/quote]well said,,, smug ar5eh0les on MoTD let Bale/Cole/Suarez off the hook whenever they can but pounced on JayRod who immediately got up and said "I did not dive and at no time claimed a pen,,,," MGRA

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malcher says...
11:49am Sun 13 Jan 13

my view is the pen was indeed given for the keeper's foul on Punceon. It would help if the ref was allowed to explain things post match. Having said that it was an ecentric display throughout by Mr Halsey.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
11:50am Sun 13 Jan 13

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Off out with the Mutt, while I am away has anyone any idea why Mark Halsey was in charge? Chris Foy was the appointed Referee, do you think the outcome would have been different had he been the Referee, and did fate deal us a decent card for once?
No response? OK on another point of view then, the Penalty is said to have been given for the Guzan tackle on Puncheon, however the Referee was looking for a reason NOT to award it, and had JRod scored his dilemma would have been eased, it was more down to hesitation that the controversy emerged, not the apparent dive.
Foy was ill, Osprey.

Thanks, perhaps he had been socialising with Guly!

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malcher says...
11:51am Sun 13 Jan 13

what is wrong with the h's on this thing. of course its PuncHeon

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mack chinnon says...
11:56am Sun 13 Jan 13

Come on Scunny.

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K in says...
12:12pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Watching on MOTD last night I thought when JRod gotup he looked quite shocked the pen had been given and thought that when he was shaking his head he was saying it wasn't a pen... but then I'm not a mind reader so don't know what he was shaking his head for!

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Velleity says...
12:13pm Sun 13 Jan 13

kent141 wrote:
The average IQ of a saints fan isent that great but if anyone can tell me how far the universe will expand in the next 60 minutes or explain the paradox of the infinity hotel in 30 words or less i will never post on here again ;0)

In a desperate attempt to get rid of you and ignoing your pitiful misuse of the engligh language - "30 words or FEWER", here goes.

In the next 60 minutes the universe's diameter will increase by 2,158,505,697,600 metres exactly.

( 14 words )

Now, please honour your promise. I don't expect you to, of course and I will ignore your weasel attempts to get out of it. We're all aware of your own team's inability to deal with inconvenient facts.

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hates the skates says...
12:24pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
he didnt touch me. but i didnt dive

CHEATER. CHEATER CHEATER

the only way ur small club will stay up this yr. cheating stadium, cheating players. fairy fans

are you having a bubble? it wasnt a dive it was good refeering. but while we are on the subject of cheating you ssign players you couldnt afford and then couldnt afford to pay them, then you have the blatant attempt to borrow loads of money or steal get caught go in to administration and some how cease to exist in your pathetic little village, any other company would cease to exist. i presume in TWO days your going to change your name to one trophy between us..................
................. seeing as it will be a newco pompey with no history league 2 side, no? didnt think so coz what u no about cheating?

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OSPREYSAINT says...
12:25pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Infinity Hotel is a verdical paradox, a valid argument with an absurd conclusion. Simple really. Anyone can Google that. Now shush.

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Norwegian Saint says...
12:29pm Sun 13 Jan 13

classof'77 wrote:
You missed Nigel Kennedy, Norwegian Saint - or is he a Birmingham supporter?
Penalty or no, at least this team is showing more backbone than the disgraceful '04-'05 lot that conceded a 3-0 lead to Villa at St Mary's, the beginning of the gutless slide into relegation. I'm hopeful this group can keep us up: at any rate it won't be for the want of trying, unlike that shameful crew.

Look closer.... See him!???
Blimey... After all that hard work I put in (well, copy n paste!)
:-)

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Velleity says...
12:29pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

kent141 wrote: The average IQ of a saints fan isent that great but if anyone can tell me how far the universe will expand in the next 60 minutes or explain the paradox of the infinity hotel in 30 words or less i will never post on here again ;0)
In a desperate attempt to get rid of you and ignoing your pitiful misuse of the engligh language - "30 words or FEWER", here goes. In the next 60 minutes the universe's diameter will increase by 2,158,505,697,600 metres exactly. ( 14 words ) Now, please honour your promise. I don't expect you to, of course and I will ignore your weasel attempts to get out of it. We're all aware of your own team's inability to deal with inconvenient facts.
Valery. could u prove that in a court of law. here is something i could prove: velleity is a nonce: as you admitted it the other day.

Ssshhhh!

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kent141 says...
12:36pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Velleity wrote:

kent141 wrote:
The average IQ of a saints fan isent that great but if anyone can tell me how far the universe will expand in the next 60 minutes or explain the paradox of the infinity hotel in 30 words or less i will never post on here again ;0)
In a desperate attempt to get rid of you and ignoing your pitiful misuse of the engligh language - "30 words or FEWER", here goes.

In the next 60 minutes the universe's diameter will increase by 2,158,505,697,600 metres exactly.

( 14 words )

Now, please honour your promise. I don't expect you to, of course and I will ignore your weasel attempts to get out of it. We're all aware of your own team's inability to deal with inconvenient facts.

You pick the simple choice rather than the infinity hotel paradox and its a very good effort although incorrect.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
12:36pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Oops, sorry Slug, I blame Velly for starting it!

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El Santo says...
12:40pm Sun 13 Jan 13

J7junctionseven wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.
Interesting - your first EVER post on the Daily Echo site.

I smell a WUM...
With a name like jonah it's definately got a fishy aroma about it

Brilliant!
He probably has the "whale" at home?

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kent141 says...
12:42pm Sun 13 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Infinity Hotel is a verdical paradox, a valid argument with an absurd conclusion. Simple really. Anyone can Google that. Now shush.

Your answer is too simplistic.

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Baddesley Bill says...
12:43pm Sun 13 Jan 13

I understand the hotel paradox theory to be that a Premier Inn will eventually replace the tip formally known as Fratton Park...

...personally, I go with the Travel Inn theory.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
12:46pm Sun 13 Jan 13

You don't have to be Einstein to work out that 5trop / 141 the biggest waste of space in the known universe. Last word on the subject.

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St.Yorkie says...
12:46pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Afternoon all - this is a non story really as the penalty was given for a foul on Puncheon! Sure it looks like the penalty was given by the media for the foul on JRod - but it appears the keepers challenge on Puncheon was the culprit. If Gaston has put away the rebound there wouldn't have been a penalty! Strange how from the initial "falling over" by JRod how long it takes for the referee to blow up for the penalty!

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kent141 says...
12:48pm Sun 13 Jan 13

kent141 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

kent141 wrote:
The average IQ of a saints fan isent that great but if anyone can tell me how far the universe will expand in the next 60 minutes or explain the paradox of the infinity hotel in 30 words or less i will never post on here again ;0)
In a desperate attempt to get rid of you and ignoing your pitiful misuse of the engligh language - "30 words or FEWER", here goes.

In the next 60 minutes the universe's diameter will increase by 2,158,505,697,600 metres exactly.

( 14 words )

Now, please honour your promise. I don't expect you to, of course and I will ignore your weasel attempts to get out of it. We're all aware of your own team's inability to deal with inconvenient facts.
You pick the simple choice rather than the infinity hotel paradox and its a very good effort although incorrect.

"Pitiful misuse of the engligh language" ?

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kent141 says...
12:51pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

kent141 wrote:

Velleity wrote:
kent141 wrote: The average IQ of a saints fan isent that great but if anyone can tell me how far the universe will expand in the next 60 minutes or explain the paradox of the infinity hotel in 30 words or less i will never post on here again ;0)
In a desperate attempt to get rid of you and ignoing your pitiful misuse of the engligh language - "30 words or FEWER", here goes. In the next 60 minutes the universe's diameter will increase by 2,158,505,697,600 metres exactly. ( 14 words ) Now, please honour your promise. I don't expect you to, of course and I will ignore your weasel attempts to get out of it. We're all aware of your own team's inability to deal with inconvenient facts.
You pick the simple choice rather than the infinity hotel paradox and its a very good effort although incorrect.
valery cant keep to his word, he is a nonce and he just cant answer simple questions. he is a dimster nonce tm

And he speaks the strange language of engligh...

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hates the skates says...
12:56pm Sun 13 Jan 13

El Santo wrote:

J7junctionseven wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.
Interesting - your first EVER post on the Daily Echo site.

I smell a WUM...
With a name like jonah it's definately got a fishy aroma about it
Brilliant!
He probably has the "whale" at home?

and a shell suit!!

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hates the skates says...
12:56pm Sun 13 Jan 13

El Santo wrote:

J7junctionseven wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Jonah127 wrote:
Adkins and the so called 'fans' comments above just typify everything that is wrong with modern football.

His player cheated to get a result and he is attempting to justify it.

Disgraceful, but typical and no-one is surprised by it any more.
Interesting - your first EVER post on the Daily Echo site.

I smell a WUM...
With a name like jonah it's definately got a fishy aroma about it
Brilliant!
He probably has the "whale" at home?

and a shell suit!!

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Tony in Liberia says...
12:59pm Sun 13 Jan 13

kent141 wrote:
The average IQ of a saints fan isent that great but if anyone can tell me how far the universe will expand in the next 60 minutes or explain the paradox of the infinity hotel in 30 words or less i will never post on here again ;0)

Basically, it isn’t a paradox at all; it simply appears paradoxical (like the race between Achilles and the tortoise). You don’t have to understand the proof; you just have to know that the proof exists for the paradox to disappear in a puff of smoke similar to Pompey’s chances of getting out of the mire before the rooms in Hilbert’s hotel are, actually, filled.

Now, to do that in less than 30 words:

There is no paradox; it just appears to non-mathematicians that there must be. It’s just easier to say “that’s impossible” than to understand Cantor’s theory of transfinite numbers.

Will you really fu(k off now?

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warrens 76 says...
1:02pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Kent, I have some fantastic news..my, yes my company is working with the equivalent of rocket scientists to write an algarithm for our media library....

...here is the good bit..by next friday they have promised to tack your email address, is'nt it marvellous...think of the wonderful implications...

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kent141 says...
1:12pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Tony in Liberia wrote:

kent141 wrote:
The average IQ of a saints fan isent that great but if anyone can tell me how far the universe will expand in the next 60 minutes or explain the paradox of the infinity hotel in 30 words or less i will never post on here again ;0)
Basically, it isn’t a paradox at all; it simply appears paradoxical (like the race between Achilles and the tortoise). You don’t have to understand the proof; you just have to know that the proof exists for the paradox to disappear in a puff of smoke similar to Pompey’s chances of getting out of the mire before the rooms in Hilbert’s hotel are, actually, filled.

Now, to do that in less than 30 words:

There is no paradox; it just appears to non-mathematicians that there must be. It’s just easier to say “that’s impossible” than to understand Cantor’s theory of transfinite numbers.

Will you really fu(k off now?

That really is a very good answer indeed and i will fu(k off to the pub and watch the football now ta ta :0)

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Tony in Liberia says...
1:22pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Well, I award myself the post of the decade award for that small achievement - what about the "I will never post on here again" promise?

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Velleity says...
1:32pm Sun 13 Jan 13

kent141 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

kent141 wrote:
The average IQ of a saints fan isent that great but if anyone can tell me how far the universe will expand in the next 60 minutes or explain the paradox of the infinity hotel in 30 words or less i will never post on here again ;0)
In a desperate attempt to get rid of you and ignoing your pitiful misuse of the engligh language - "30 words or FEWER", here goes.

In the next 60 minutes the universe's diameter will increase by 2,158,505,697,600 metres exactly.

( 14 words )

Now, please honour your promise. I don't expect you to, of course and I will ignore your weasel attempts to get out of it. We're all aware of your own team's inability to deal with inconvenient facts.
You pick the simple choice rather than the infinity hotel paradox and its a very good effort although incorrect.

Ah, you're clearly as accurate with numbers as your previous owners.

That answer is *exactly* correct. You thought the question was difficult when it's truly, astoundingly simple. Effectively asking how far light will travel in a vacuum in an hour is devastatingly simple (and is easy to answer exactly given the SI definition of a metre). Not that you'd know that. You're not even intelligent enough to ask a difficult question, you dimwit.

And your promise to cease posting (if a correct answer was posted to *either* question) means just as much as your previous owners' word.

That's all for now.

Sssshhh! from now - you're not worth the oxygen you waste daily.

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MGRA says...
1:56pm Sun 13 Jan 13

malcher wrote:
my view is the pen was indeed given for the keeper's foul on Punceon. It would help if the ref was allowed to explain things post match. Having said that it was an ecentric display throughout by Mr Halsey.

Having seen another angle of the Ref I am pretty sure that he gave it for the JayRod tackle. Under the laws of the game the Ref is perfectly correct to award a penalty for that tackle even though no contact was made. Lineker and Co clearly do not know the laws of the game..... oh and can people PLEASE stop responding to the morons on here...

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Stroppy_gramps says...
1:57pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

kent141 wrote:

rocketone wrote:
Velleity wrote:
kent141 wrote: Plenty of away tickets left unsold for Chelsea.
ShhhhHH!
Plenty of home tickets left for all of PFC games!
Very clever reply indeed , you are one of the brighter simpletons on here.
plenty of trophies every yr to win. 250 plus chances 4 ur club, n the stains have only won 1. y have u been so bad?

poor post again.

you are correct in that we had plenty of opportunities to win cups but we didn't.

and yet..... we stayed in the top flight for such a long time!

However your twisted reasoning seems to apply that this is somehow bad.
To be honest, it seems like you are bumping your fishy gums saying not very much at all, just trying to put forward half thought out arguments in trying to prove that the bust entity down the road is somehow more succesful.

change the record darling, this one is boring.

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St Forlife says...
2:02pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Getting back to the headline - My view is this.

Goalee's tackle on punch wasn't a pen - he's entitled to go for the ball.

Just because 'contact' ever takes place it isn't a foul. The day we revert to non-contact football I'll go and watch the local netball team.

JRod did dive. I don't actually think it was a cynical pre planned lunge to gain a pen. A bit like Suarez. More instinctive. My best guess is that in a flash both players 'cheated' and probably half a second later thought 'oh dear - shouldn't have done that!'.

It happens.

Is it the refs fault - absolutely not. I watched the game and shouted PEN as soon as it happened but later saw it was not. Refs are simply trying to manage a game and if football supporters and in particular managers and players want better refereeing standards then give them the tools to do it. It seems most players and coaches these days want to encourage their team to dive and roll around or make a tackle seem much worse than it is but don't like it when a ref falls for it.

Should we introduce video support more? Not while a game is on - except for goal line stuff at this stage. However retrospectively a panel should be able to give out yellow cards etc based on video evidence - but they have to say this is what we will do from now on.

If players are then penalised and get suspended more often the 'instinct' will change from automatically falling over or hand balling to staying on your feet. The result - refs funnily enough will start to 'get better'.

Who benefits? Everyone does and I bet the players enjoy the game more and develop more respect for one another without the ponsing around on the floor and 'please call my mummy he hurt me cries'. Furthermore serious injuries will be easier to pick up and so players get more protection.

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
2:02pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Tony in Liberia wrote:
Well, I award myself the post of the decade award for that small achievement - what about the "I will never post on here again" promise?

The problem is you seem to be relying on the honesty and integrity of a Skunt. Now, unless you don't believe the stories of robbing from charities, embezzlement, illegal deals and defrauding the tax payer that would seem a tad optimistic to me.

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mack chinnon says...
2:03pm Sun 13 Jan 13

MGRA wrote:

malcher wrote:
my view is the pen was indeed given for the keeper's foul on Punceon. It would help if the ref was allowed to explain things post match. Having said that it was an ecentric display throughout by Mr Halsey.
Having seen another angle of the Ref I am pretty sure that he gave it for the JayRod tackle. Under the laws of the game the Ref is perfectly correct to award a penalty for that tackle even though no contact was made. Lineker and Co clearly do not know the laws of the game..... oh and can people PLEASE stop responding to the morons on here...

Hows Luke,s gash.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
2:04pm Sun 13 Jan 13

MGRA wrote:

malcher wrote:
my view is the pen was indeed given for the keeper's foul on Punceon. It would help if the ref was allowed to explain things post match. Having said that it was an ecentric display throughout by Mr Halsey.
Having seen another angle of the Ref I am pretty sure that he gave it for the JayRod tackle. Under the laws of the game the Ref is perfectly correct to award a penalty for that tackle even though no contact was made. Lineker and Co clearly do not know the laws of the game..... oh and can people PLEASE stop responding to the morons on here...

Does that include you? Sorry, only joking and you are right, I couldn't resist it, a timely reminder from your good self. The theory about the penalty came about because the Referee actually told Andy Crosby at half time that the Penalty was for the Puncheon tackle by Guzan, and that he was playing the advantage, that is wrong in many ways, but it is too late to argue about it now. Result 1 - 0 to Southampton, Lambert Penalty, 3 Points in the bag, the record books will show. No doubt we will get plenty of dodgy decisions to discuss as the Season wears on.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
2:17pm Sun 13 Jan 13

QUOTE: "JRod did dive. I don't actually think it was a cynical pre planned lunge to gain a pen". That is a total contradiction and makes no sense.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
2:20pm Sun 13 Jan 13

mack chinnon wrote:

MGRA wrote:

malcher wrote:
my view is the pen was indeed given for the keeper's foul on Punceon. It would help if the ref was allowed to explain things post match. Having said that it was an ecentric display throughout by Mr Halsey.
Having seen another angle of the Ref I am pretty sure that he gave it for the JayRod tackle. Under the laws of the game the Ref is perfectly correct to award a penalty for that tackle even though no contact was made. Lineker and Co clearly do not know the laws of the game..... oh and can people PLEASE stop responding to the morons on here...
Hows Luke,s gash.

The latest word from Luke is, "that smarts." That's two words but you know what I mean!

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saintkenny says...
2:23pm Sun 13 Jan 13

looking at this page its evident that kent141 and fivetrophiesbetwenus both have the mental age of a 10 year old .but is probably pretty beliavable being 2 of the bluefew .on here because were iin the premier league and there not
THEY JUST DONT LIKE IT
oh i know i know

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OSPREYSAINT says...
2:38pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Bale worth £55m, what a pity Lowe cashed in the sell on clause!

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Velleity says...
2:40pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Look, the rules are clear. If the ref gives a penalty, it's a penalty.

Nigel doesn't shout off his mouth when we get decisions against us; he just accepts that over time it balances out. Nice, mature attituse, as you'd expect.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
2:45pm Sun 13 Jan 13

kent141 wrote:
Plenty of away tickets left unsold for Chelsea.

Plenty of Man City tickets available away to Arsenal, spot the trend here?

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warrens 76 says...
3:16pm Sun 13 Jan 13

mack chinnon wrote:

MGRA wrote:

malcher wrote:
my view is the pen was indeed given for the keeper's foul on Punceon. It would help if the ref was allowed to explain things post match. Having said that it was an ecentric display throughout by Mr Halsey.
Having seen another angle of the Ref I am pretty sure that he gave it for the JayRod tackle. Under the laws of the game the Ref is perfectly correct to award a penalty for that tackle even though no contact was made. Lineker and Co clearly do not know the laws of the game..... oh and can people PLEASE stop responding to the morons on here...
Hows Luke,s gash.

That question sounds all wrong...if you know what I mean.

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saintshorse101 says...
3:36pm Sun 13 Jan 13

i think we should have a fishy amnesty on here this week, if you are a fishy fiddler then you should openly admit to it, and for this week you will not receive abuse.
i know many will say stuff them but it is a very important week for them and the go to court in an attempt to save their club by squirming their way out of yet another debt. the problem they have this time is that they cant just get do a cva and then not pay it, the judge has to decide the value of the shed. he will do this using the FACTS and TRUTH and THE LAW with HONESTY, all words not understood in poopey. if the judge decides that notarf is worth more than the trust (strange choice of word as its the 1 thing you cant do with the fish) can afford, then mr birch will have to close the club down. his job is to get the best return possible for the creditors, not keep them ticking over. i though wonder what valuation the judge has to use, if its valued as a football ground then its about £50, lots of work needed to get it up to blue sq standards. if however he values the land as just a plot of real estate with building potential, flats, houses, lidle,cashconverters
, poundstrechers etc. then the value must be above £6mill.
as for kenty pledge not to post again, well didnt we have another idiot who promised that? didnt thebooooorer say that if saints didnt lose by at least 2 goals to qpr we would never see him again? you cant trust a skate! dont forget that kenty tried to make out he was a saint and went to the wba away game.

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saintkenny says...
3:41pm Sun 13 Jan 13

saintshorse101 wrote:
i think we should have a fishy amnesty on here this week, if you are a fishy fiddler then you should openly admit to it, and for this week you will not receive abuse.
i know many will say stuff them but it is a very important week for them and the go to court in an attempt to save their club by squirming their way out of yet another debt. the problem they have this time is that they cant just get do a cva and then not pay it, the judge has to decide the value of the shed. he will do this using the FACTS and TRUTH and THE LAW with HONESTY, all words not understood in poopey. if the judge decides that notarf is worth more than the trust (strange choice of word as its the 1 thing you cant do with the fish) can afford, then mr birch will have to close the club down. his job is to get the best return possible for the creditors, not keep them ticking over. i though wonder what valuation the judge has to use, if its valued as a football ground then its about £50, lots of work needed to get it up to blue sq standards. if however he values the land as just a plot of real estate with building potential, flats, houses, lidle,cashconverters

, poundstrechers etc. then the value must be above £6mill.
as for kenty pledge not to post again, well didnt we have another idiot who promised that? didnt thebooooorer say that if saints didnt lose by at least 2 goals to qpr we would never see him again? you cant trust a skate! dont forget that kenty tried to make out he was a saint and went to the wba away game.

he did say that but then he has about ten logins .about matches the guys mental age

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Clever Dick says...
4:12pm Sun 13 Jan 13

kent141 wrote:
The average IQ of a saints fan isent that great but if anyone can tell me how far the universe will expand in the next 60 minutes or explain the paradox of the infinity hotel in 30 words or less i will never post on here again ;0)

But at least we all know how to spell isn't!!!

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Bring back Branfoot says...
4:25pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We were easily the better side. It's funny how you get a different perspective at the game than watching it on tv or listening on the radio. The four of us thought Rickie, despite some great touches and of course the invincible penalty, had an off day and Ramirez wasn't bad at all. Clyne made a few slips due to being rusty and Jay Rod worked his socks off. We had a great chance to go 2-0 and Jay didn't take it and that was the turning point. Villa increasingly got back into the game after that and in the end we had to defend the one goal advantage - and to me that is the massive plus point, we finally saw a game out without conceding.

The pen was the other end from us but when it happened Dave instantly said the ref had played advantage and then pointed to the spot. It was the foul on Punch that he awarded.

Pointing out the obvious, as per usual! Zzzzzzzz

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Bring back Branfoot says...
4:27pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Velleity wrote:
Look, the rules are clear. If the ref gives a penalty, it's a penalty.

Nigel doesn't shout off his mouth when we get decisions against us; he just accepts that over time it balances out. Nice, mature attituse, as you'd expect.

We know Valerie, you fancy Nigel, enough already!

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OSPREYSAINT says...
4:29pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Three things I wouldn't want to be this week-end, 1) A Villa fan, 2) a Bristol City supporter and 3) the obvious.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
4:33pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Velleity wrote:
Look, the rules are clear. If the ref gives a penalty, it's a penalty.

Nigel doesn't shout off his mouth when we get decisions against us; he just accepts that over time it balances out. Nice, mature attituse, as you'd expect.
We know Valerie, you fancy Nigel, enough already!

... and you apparently hate him, so what is your point?

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OSPREYSAINT says...
4:35pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We were easily the better side. It's funny how you get a different perspective at the game than watching it on tv or listening on the radio. The four of us thought Rickie, despite some great touches and of course the invincible penalty, had an off day and Ramirez wasn't bad at all. Clyne made a few slips due to being rusty and Jay Rod worked his socks off. We had a great chance to go 2-0 and Jay didn't take it and that was the turning point. Villa increasingly got back into the game after that and in the end we had to defend the one goal advantage - and to me that is the massive plus point, we finally saw a game out without conceding.

The pen was the other end from us but when it happened Dave instantly said the ref had played advantage and then pointed to the spot. It was the foul on Punch that he awarded.
Pointing out the obvious, as per usual! Zzzzzzzz

Not obvious to some of the mongs that have posted on here, if you can't keep awake, get back to bed.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
4:38pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Clever Dick wrote:

kent141 wrote:
The average IQ of a saints fan isent that great but if anyone can tell me how far the universe will expand in the next 60 minutes or explain the paradox of the infinity hotel in 30 words or less i will never post on here again ;0)
But at least we all know how to spell isn't!!!

You are referring to someone that isn't able to spell his sign correctly.

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Velleity says...
4:44pm Sun 13 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Velleity wrote:
Look, the rules are clear. If the ref gives a penalty, it's a penalty.

Nigel doesn't shout off his mouth when we get decisions against us; he just accepts that over time it balances out. Nice, mature attituse, as you'd expect.
We know Valerie, you fancy Nigel, enough already!
... and you apparently hate him, so what is your point?

Osprey, SssshhhH!

He'll drift away if he realises we don't respond. The only reason he's on here is to get a little attention. Don't give him any and he'll go somewhere else to fulfil his need.

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slugger says...
5:00pm Sun 13 Jan 13

There's not a single thing that anyone can say that alters the fact that we're now 15th in the premiership ........ i fully expect us to finish at least 2 places higher but would take 17th now ........ COYR !!!

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OSPREYSAINT says...
5:01pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Velleity wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Velleity wrote:
Look, the rules are clear. If the ref gives a penalty, it's a penalty.

Nigel doesn't shout off his mouth when we get decisions against us; he just accepts that over time it balances out. Nice, mature attituse, as you'd expect.
We know Valerie, you fancy Nigel, enough already!
... and you apparently hate him, so what is your point?
Osprey, SssshhhH!

He'll drift away if he realises we don't respond. The only reason he's on here is to get a little attention. Don't give him any and he'll go somewhere else to fulfil his need.

I know but it is so quiet I'm getting a bit bored.

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slugger says...
5:06pm Sun 13 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Velleity wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Velleity wrote:
Look, the rules are clear. If the ref gives a penalty, it's a penalty.

Nigel doesn't shout off his mouth when we get decisions against us; he just accepts that over time it balances out. Nice, mature attituse, as you'd expect.
We know Valerie, you fancy Nigel, enough already!
... and you apparently hate him, so what is your point?
Osprey, SssshhhH!

He'll drift away if he realises we don't respond. The only reason he's on here is to get a little attention. Don't give him any and he'll go somewhere else to fulfil his need.
I know but it is so quiet I'm getting a bit bored.

Speak to whoever you like , imo it only gets silly when there's quote after quote after quote ...........

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Clever Dick says...
5:11pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Anyways I'm back from golf now and have watched the game on match choice.We were easily the better side and deserved to win. Boruc made some great saves and was brave when required. J-Rod worked his butt off and just needs to pull the trigger a bit quicker. Got in some great positions though. All round a pretty competent performance albeit against a side doomed for the drop. COYR

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OSPREYSAINT says...
5:15pm Sun 13 Jan 13

slugger wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Velleity wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Velleity wrote:
Look, the rules are clear. If the ref gives a penalty, it's a penalty.

Nigel doesn't shout off his mouth when we get decisions against us; he just accepts that over time it balances out. Nice, mature attituse, as you'd expect.
We know Valerie, you fancy Nigel, enough already!
... and you apparently hate him, so what is your point?
Osprey, SssshhhH!

He'll drift away if he realises we don't respond. The only reason he's on here is to get a little attention. Don't give him any and he'll go somewhere else to fulfil his need.
I know but it is so quiet I'm getting a bit bored.
Speak to whoever you like , imo it only gets silly when there's quote after quote after quote ...........

I agree as you can see on some of my earlier efforts I have resorted to cutting and pasting the relevant sections rather than use the quote function, it takes up less space.

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SAINTStevie61163 says...
5:41pm Sun 13 Jan 13

kent141 says...
6:06pm Sat 12 Jan 13

saintkenny wrote:
you remember all the skunts on here at the end of last season saying we wont make the top 2 or lose in the playoffs .the comments from tebeourba are only what you expect from portsmouth fans .none came on here when we were in league one just bha fans ,and they did not in the championship only near the derby days december and april .and later as we stayed in the top 2 all season .they come on here in numbers now .because were in the premier league now .and they just dont like that.and whats going on with there club,there is nothing for them anymore so there just spending there time on here ,some with various logins .as the end comes near you can feel there desperation ,as the fear of disapearing away while there close rivals is .allowed to do with its own means which they just could not afford .what sad blew few ,and the few is getting fewer all the time .even some go to stmarys .more will, later once it folds ,not long now
Just ignore the jealous skunts kenny and celebrate Nigels masterclass today and the incredible support, we are back in the car now , thanks to Bill for driving and look forward to seeing you all in the Josh later.”

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
5:50pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Velleity wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Velleity wrote:
Look, the rules are clear. If the ref gives a penalty, it's a penalty.

Nigel doesn't shout off his mouth when we get decisions against us; he just accepts that over time it balances out. Nice, mature attituse, as you'd expect.
We know Valerie, you fancy Nigel, enough already!
... and you apparently hate him, so what is your point?
Osprey, SssshhhH!

He'll drift away if he realises we don't respond. The only reason he's on here is to get a little attention. Don't give him any and he'll go somewhere else to fulfil his need.

It's proving difficult to get this point over isn't it?

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Taunton Saint says...
6:10pm Sun 13 Jan 13

I think all comments from Lambert about dodgy penalty etc are null and void

go on youtube,

type in:

Pars v Celtic (1-2) - Paul Lambert Dive - 19th Sep 2000

Some guy posted this on a BBC sport comment - Mr Lambert should shut up me thinks!!

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Tirau Dan says...
6:13pm Sun 13 Jan 13

This is a freeze frame pic from the video. It is a picture of a defender kicking Jay in the shin a mile from the ball.

Trouble with the frame speed of video - everyone gets sucked in.

http://t.co/Z4Mtm9rT

This is the picture that the media should have shown.

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Taunton Saint says...
6:13pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Taunton Saint wrote:
I think all comments from Lambert about dodgy penalty etc are null and void

go on youtube,

type in:

Pars v Celtic (1-2) - Paul Lambert Dive - 19th Sep 2000

Some guy posted this on a BBC sport comment - Mr Lambert should shut up me thinks!!

Go to around the 2 minute 30 mark

This was worse than J Rod, can only guess the guy who posted it onto the BBC is a Dunfermilne fan with a long memory, it was over 12 years ago!!

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saintlysoul says...
6:32pm Sun 13 Jan 13

I can't believe tha so much time and effort has been expended by individuals on here debating the penalty. It was a penalty. Lambert scored. Saints won that's it. Nothing is achieved by this post mortem. Move on to the next game!

For all of you, especially Slugger who suggest I'm a 'skate' why would I attend every Saints game is I was?

I want saints to succeed like all of you I just get very frustrated at what I hear going on behind the scenes. Sadly it's not as rosey as you all think. Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads and that concerns me particularly at this time of the season! Di Matteo waits in the wings one more defeat could seal NA's fate.

I'm increasingly frustrated at JWP being constantly on the bench. I cannot understand why he does not play. He's a holding creative midfielder. He wasvexcellent at the beginning of the season. How does he not get on ahead of Steven Davis? The only explanation is thatbDavis is paid more than JWP Davis is the highest paid player in the team even being paid more than Lalana and Ramirez!!! If this is the basis of team selection IMO it is wrong. Is that why Guly is in favour so much?

Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!!

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angus mc coatup says...
6:36pm Sun 13 Jan 13

saintlysoul wrote:
I can't believe tha so much time and effort has been expended by individuals on here debating the penalty. It was a penalty. Lambert scored. Saints won that's it. Nothing is achieved by this post mortem. Move on to the next game!

For all of you, especially Slugger who suggest I'm a 'skate' why would I attend every Saints game is I was?

I want saints to succeed like all of you I just get very frustrated at what I hear going on behind the scenes. Sadly it's not as rosey as you all think. Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads and that concerns me particularly at this time of the season! Di Matteo waits in the wings one more defeat could seal NA's fate.

I'm increasingly frustrated at JWP being constantly on the bench. I cannot understand why he does not play. He's a holding creative midfielder. He wasvexcellent at the beginning of the season. How does he not get on ahead of Steven Davis? The only explanation is thatbDavis is paid more than JWP Davis is the highest paid player in the team even being paid more than Lalana and Ramirez!!! If this is the basis of team selection IMO it is wrong. Is that why Guly is in favour so much?

Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!!

well here's my veiw for what It's worth.

go and shove your head back up your arse.

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saintlysoul says...
6:39pm Sun 13 Jan 13

angus mc coatup wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:
I can't believe tha so much time and effort has been expended by individuals on here debating the penalty. It was a penalty. Lambert scored. Saints won that's it. Nothing is achieved by this post mortem. Move on to the next game!

For all of you, especially Slugger who suggest I'm a 'skate' why would I attend every Saints game is I was?

I want saints to succeed like all of you I just get very frustrated at what I hear going on behind the scenes. Sadly it's not as rosey as you all think. Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads and that concerns me particularly at this time of the season! Di Matteo waits in the wings one more defeat could seal NA's fate.

I'm increasingly frustrated at JWP being constantly on the bench. I cannot understand why he does not play. He's a holding creative midfielder. He wasvexcellent at the beginning of the season. How does he not get on ahead of Steven Davis? The only explanation is thatbDavis is paid more than JWP Davis is the highest paid player in the team even being paid more than Lalana and Ramirez!!! If this is the basis of team selection IMO it is wrong. Is that why Guly is in favour so much?

Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!!
well here's my veiw for what It's worth.

go and shove your head back up your arse.

What are horrible human being you are!!!!

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right back in the bar says...
6:40pm Sun 13 Jan 13

At the end of the season the 3 pts we got from this game will more than likely keep us up. On that basis JRod will have been worth every penny of the 7m we spent on him. Then we should ship him out back to the championship (probably for the 1m his limited ability merits), bite the bullet and buy a striker who is capable of scoring 15-16 goals a season in the prem. I am not usually critical of individual players but yesterday was a repeat of everything else I have seen from him this season - so many promising situations were squandered because he either blew the chance or he was simply (and far too easily) dealt with by a defender. Overrunning the ball and missing the chance to provide RL with a simple tap from 5 yds was bad, but the scuffed drag back before taking the dive was embarrassin. Here is a player so completely adrift and out of his depth he should be spared the agony.

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slugger says...
6:45pm Sun 13 Jan 13

saintlysoul wrote:
I can't believe tha so much time and effort has been expended by individuals on here debating the penalty. It was a penalty. Lambert scored. Saints won that's it. Nothing is achieved by this post mortem. Move on to the next game!

For all of you, especially Slugger who suggest I'm a 'skate' why would I attend every Saints game is I was?

I want saints to succeed like all of you I just get very frustrated at what I hear going on behind the scenes. Sadly it's not as rosey as you all think. Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads and that concerns me particularly at this time of the season! Di Matteo waits in the wings one more defeat could seal NA's fate.

I'm increasingly frustrated at JWP being constantly on the bench. I cannot understand why he does not play. He's a holding creative midfielder. He wasvexcellent at the beginning of the season. How does he not get on ahead of Steven Davis? The only explanation is thatbDavis is paid more than JWP Davis is the highest paid player in the team even being paid more than Lalana and Ramirez!!! If this is the basis of team selection IMO it is wrong. Is that why Guly is in favour so much?

Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!!

My view is that you don't know a hundredth of what you claim , you're a mischief maker who spreads negativity at any and every opportunity ....... i doubt with all my heart that you're a Saints fan and will challenge you every time you try to spread your poison ..... it's my mission ! x

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Velleity says...
6:45pm Sun 13 Jan 13

saintlysoul wrote:
I can't believe tha so much time and effort has been expended by individuals on here debating the penalty. It was a penalty. Lambert scored. Saints won that's it. Nothing is achieved by this post mortem. Move on to the next game!

For all of you, especially Slugger who suggest I'm a 'skate' why would I attend every Saints game is I was?

I want saints to succeed like all of you I just get very frustrated at what I hear going on behind the scenes. Sadly it's not as rosey as you all think. Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads and that concerns me particularly at this time of the season! Di Matteo waits in the wings one more defeat could seal NA's fate.

I'm increasingly frustrated at JWP being constantly on the bench. I cannot understand why he does not play. He's a holding creative midfielder. He wasvexcellent at the beginning of the season. How does he not get on ahead of Steven Davis? The only explanation is thatbDavis is paid more than JWP Davis is the highest paid player in the team even being paid more than Lalana and Ramirez!!! If this is the basis of team selection IMO it is wrong. Is that why Guly is in favour so much?

Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!!

OK, as it's a day for dealing with WUMs, here goes.

1. If I consistently made comments that were so negative that people assumed I was a WUM or a Portsmouth supporter, I'd be questioning what I was typing. Plenty of people come on here, comment negatively and aren't given that treatment.

2. "Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads". I've been hearing versions of that for a couple of seasons yet I have NEVER, not once, heard a shred of evidence for it. You have given no evidence and you're the only one shouting it in every post. Perhaps we SHOULD believe you but we have n reason to. Constant repetition does not make something true.

3. You rate JWP highly. We've got the message. Do you sit and watch him in every training session? Do you have the GSP readouts from his every training session? Do you have access to his medical and fitness records? NA does and he doesn't pick him.

4.The concept that payers are selected because of their wages has no basis at all (again). It's not "The only explanation"; it's one, very unlikely, expanation. What possible motive would NA have for doing that? Seriously?

5. Guly is class.

Serious enough response for you?

[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I can't believe tha so much time and effort has been expended by individuals on here debating the penalty. It was a penalty. Lambert scored. Saints won that's it. Nothing is achieved by this post mortem. Move on to the next game! For all of you, especially Slugger who suggest I'm a 'skate' why would I attend every Saints game is I was? I want saints to succeed like all of you I just get very frustrated at what I hear going on behind the scenes. Sadly it's not as rosey as you all think. Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads and that concerns me particularly at this time of the season! Di Matteo waits in the wings one more defeat could seal NA's fate. I'm increasingly frustrated at JWP being constantly on the bench. I cannot understand why he does not play. He's a holding creative midfielder. He wasvexcellent at the beginning of the season. How does he not get on ahead of Steven Davis? The only explanation is thatbDavis is paid more than JWP Davis is the highest paid player in the team even being paid more than Lalana and Ramirez!!! If this is the basis of team selection IMO it is wrong. Is that why Guly is in favour so much? Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!![/p][/quote]OK, as it's a day for dealing with WUMs, here goes. 1. If I consistently made comments that were so negative that people assumed I was a WUM or a Portsmouth supporter, I'd be questioning what I was typing. Plenty of people come on here, comment negatively and aren't given that treatment. 2. "Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads". I've been hearing versions of that for a couple of seasons yet I have NEVER, not once, heard a shred of evidence for it. You have given no evidence and you're the only one shouting it in every post. Perhaps we SHOULD believe you but we have n reason to. Constant repetition does not make something true. 3. You rate JWP highly. We've got the message. Do you sit and watch him in every training session? Do you have the GSP readouts from his every training session? Do you have access to his medical and fitness records? NA does and he doesn't pick him. 4.The concept that payers are selected because of their wages has no basis at all (again). It's not "The only explanation"; it's one, very unlikely, expanation. What possible motive would NA have for doing that? Seriously? 5. Guly is class. Serious enough response for you? Velleity

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angus mc coatup says...
6:47pm Sun 13 Jan 13

saintlysoul wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:
I can't believe tha so much time and effort has been expended by individuals on here debating the penalty. It was a penalty. Lambert scored. Saints won that's it. Nothing is achieved by this post mortem. Move on to the next game!

For all of you, especially Slugger who suggest I'm a 'skate' why would I attend every Saints game is I was?

I want saints to succeed like all of you I just get very frustrated at what I hear going on behind the scenes. Sadly it's not as rosey as you all think. Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads and that concerns me particularly at this time of the season! Di Matteo waits in the wings one more defeat could seal NA's fate.

I'm increasingly frustrated at JWP being constantly on the bench. I cannot understand why he does not play. He's a holding creative midfielder. He wasvexcellent at the beginning of the season. How does he not get on ahead of Steven Davis? The only explanation is thatbDavis is paid more than JWP Davis is the highest paid player in the team even being paid more than Lalana and Ramirez!!! If this is the basis of team selection IMO it is wrong. Is that why Guly is in favour so much?

Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!!
well here's my veiw for what It's worth.

go and shove your head back up your arse.
What are horrible human being you are!!!!

I know good innit !

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saintlysoul says...
6:48pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Velleity wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:
I can't believe tha so much time and effort has been expended by individuals on here debating the penalty. It was a penalty. Lambert scored. Saints won that's it. Nothing is achieved by this post mortem. Move on to the next game!

For all of you, especially Slugger who suggest I'm a 'skate' why would I attend every Saints game is I was?

I want saints to succeed like all of you I just get very frustrated at what I hear going on behind the scenes. Sadly it's not as rosey as you all think. Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads and that concerns me particularly at this time of the season! Di Matteo waits in the wings one more defeat could seal NA's fate.

I'm increasingly frustrated at JWP being constantly on the bench. I cannot understand why he does not play. He's a holding creative midfielder. He wasvexcellent at the beginning of the season. How does he not get on ahead of Steven Davis? The only explanation is thatbDavis is paid more than JWP Davis is the highest paid player in the team even being paid more than Lalana and Ramirez!!! If this is the basis of team selection IMO it is wrong. Is that why Guly is in favour so much?

Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!!
OK, as it's a day for dealing with WUMs, here goes.

1. If I consistently made comments that were so negative that people assumed I was a WUM or a Portsmouth supporter, I'd be questioning what I was typing. Plenty of people come on here, comment negatively and aren't given that treatment.

2. "Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads". I've been hearing versions of that for a couple of seasons yet I have NEVER, not once, heard a shred of evidence for it. You have given no evidence and you're the only one shouting it in every post. Perhaps we SHOULD believe you but we have n reason to. Constant repetition does not make something true.

3. You rate JWP highly. We've got the message. Do you sit and watch him in every training session? Do you have the GSP readouts from his every training session? Do you have access to his medical and fitness records? NA does and he doesn't pick him.

4.The concept that payers are selected because of their wages has no basis at all (again). It's not "The only explanation"; it's one, very unlikely, expanation. What possible motive would NA have for doing that? Seriously?

5. Guly is class.

Serious enough response for you?

That is actually thought provoking and a welcomed intelligent non-abusive response thank you!!!!

[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I can't believe tha so much time and effort has been expended by individuals on here debating the penalty. It was a penalty. Lambert scored. Saints won that's it. Nothing is achieved by this post mortem. Move on to the next game! For all of you, especially Slugger who suggest I'm a 'skate' why would I attend every Saints game is I was? I want saints to succeed like all of you I just get very frustrated at what I hear going on behind the scenes. Sadly it's not as rosey as you all think. Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads and that concerns me particularly at this time of the season! Di Matteo waits in the wings one more defeat could seal NA's fate. I'm increasingly frustrated at JWP being constantly on the bench. I cannot understand why he does not play. He's a holding creative midfielder. He wasvexcellent at the beginning of the season. How does he not get on ahead of Steven Davis? The only explanation is thatbDavis is paid more than JWP Davis is the highest paid player in the team even being paid more than Lalana and Ramirez!!! If this is the basis of team selection IMO it is wrong. Is that why Guly is in favour so much? Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!![/p][/quote]OK, as it's a day for dealing with WUMs, here goes. 1. If I consistently made comments that were so negative that people assumed I was a WUM or a Portsmouth supporter, I'd be questioning what I was typing. Plenty of people come on here, comment negatively and aren't given that treatment. 2. "Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads". I've been hearing versions of that for a couple of seasons yet I have NEVER, not once, heard a shred of evidence for it. You have given no evidence and you're the only one shouting it in every post. Perhaps we SHOULD believe you but we have n reason to. Constant repetition does not make something true. 3. You rate JWP highly. We've got the message. Do you sit and watch him in every training session? Do you have the GSP readouts from his every training session? Do you have access to his medical and fitness records? NA does and he doesn't pick him. 4.The concept that payers are selected because of their wages has no basis at all (again). It's not "The only explanation"; it's one, very unlikely, expanation. What possible motive would NA have for doing that? Seriously? 5. Guly is class. Serious enough response for you?[/p][/quote]That is actually thought provoking and a welcomed intelligent non-abusive response thank you!!!! saintlysoul

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Norwegian Saint says...
6:53pm Sun 13 Jan 13

saintlysoul wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:
I can't believe tha so much time and effort has been expended by individuals on here debating the penalty. It was a penalty. Lambert scored. Saints won that's it. Nothing is achieved by this post mortem. Move on to the next game!

For all of you, especially Slugger who suggest I'm a 'skate' why would I attend every Saints game is I was?

I want saints to succeed like all of you I just get very frustrated at what I hear going on behind the scenes. Sadly it's not as rosey as you all think. Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads and that concerns me particularly at this time of the season! Di Matteo waits in the wings one more defeat could seal NA's fate.

I'm increasingly frustrated at JWP being constantly on the bench. I cannot understand why he does not play. He's a holding creative midfielder. He wasvexcellent at the beginning of the season. How does he not get on ahead of Steven Davis? The only explanation is thatbDavis is paid more than JWP Davis is the highest paid player in the team even being paid more than Lalana and Ramirez!!! If this is the basis of team selection IMO it is wrong. Is that why Guly is in favour so much?

Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!!
well here's my veiw for what It's worth.

go and shove your head back up your arse.
What are horrible human being you are!!!!

Saintlysoul... The problem with you is either your glass is half empty or your a skate... or both.
You put so much rubbish on here which again makes one of two things appear...
Your a smelly fish or just a complete idiot talking bullocks.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
6:53pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Velleity wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Velleity wrote:
Look, the rules are clear. If the ref gives a penalty, it's a penalty.

Nigel doesn't shout off his mouth when we get decisions against us; he just accepts that over time it balances out. Nice, mature attituse, as you'd expect.
We know Valerie, you fancy Nigel, enough already!
... and you apparently hate him, so what is your point?
Osprey, SssshhhH!

He'll drift away if he realises we don't respond. The only reason he's on here is to get a little attention. Don't give him any and he'll go somewhere else to fulfil his need.
It's proving difficult to get this point over isn't it?

Sadly, he is the only one who isn't getting the message. Quite frankly it isn't that important is it? Poor sod may not have any other source of amusement apart from the obvious.

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saintlysoul says...
6:56pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Norwegian Saint wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:
I can't believe tha so much time and effort has been expended by individuals on here debating the penalty. It was a penalty. Lambert scored. Saints won that's it. Nothing is achieved by this post mortem. Move on to the next game!

For all of you, especially Slugger who suggest I'm a 'skate' why would I attend every Saints game is I was?

I want saints to succeed like all of you I just get very frustrated at what I hear going on behind the scenes. Sadly it's not as rosey as you all think. Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads and that concerns me particularly at this time of the season! Di Matteo waits in the wings one more defeat could seal NA's fate.

I'm increasingly frustrated at JWP being constantly on the bench. I cannot understand why he does not play. He's a holding creative midfielder. He wasvexcellent at the beginning of the season. How does he not get on ahead of Steven Davis? The only explanation is thatbDavis is paid more than JWP Davis is the highest paid player in the team even being paid more than Lalana and Ramirez!!! If this is the basis of team selection IMO it is wrong. Is that why Guly is in favour so much?

Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!!
well here's my veiw for what It's worth.

go and shove your head back up your arse.
What are horrible human being you are!!!!
Saintlysoul... The problem with you is either your glass is half empty or your a skate... or both.
You put so much rubbish on here which again makes one of two things appear...
Your a smelly fish or just a complete idiot talking bullocks.

Do I really care what you think you'll mark my words in due course! Just wait and see.

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Norwegian Saint says...
7:00pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote: Not a dive, Jay falls avoiding being kicked. Dangerous play by defender who should have stayed on his feet. Boruc looked brave but erratic, not sure if he is the answer. Shaw was stretching to keep in the dodgy throw from boric which led to his injury. Hope Ramirez gets his head up, he's not looking happy.
Having watched the replay many times, I have to say there was no intention to dive, JRod is the victim of histrionics from Bale and Co. which has brought on the MoD paranoia. If Villa deserved to lose it was because of the poor sportsmanship shown when Shaw went down. Ramirez isn't a player that relishes relegation battles, he is talented, but is more of a luxury player that will come good when the rest of the team start playing good open flowing football. The Sky Sports second commentator was annoying too, when Ramirez was raked by studs off the pitch in the first half, the commentator flippantly remarked that it was the Saints players fault because he left his leg there, after watching the replay he retracted the statement, by saying it was a fifty fifty challenge!
The challenge on Ramirez again was reckless, he was lucky that he did in the end back out of it. The villa player has gone in both legs off the ground, one going in studs up! What control has he got? None. Like I mentioned earlier I don't think any challenges were malicious but reckless and out of control. I do agree bale and co haven't helped and diving does need to be erased from the game, but Jay rod didn't dive and the challenge on him and punch was reckless like the others.
In my opinion you are spot on GHK, thanks for a well thought out opinion, and no, I must stress I am not being sarcastic or anything, I agree with your statement.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day!
Talking about time on here is a sensitive subject and may upset our blue phew WUMs so best avoided.
Talkin bout trophies on here is even more sensitive. u lot just dont like it

Heeeheeee
You Poopey lot are continuing to be an embarrassment to football...
All you go on about is "history this...history that... blahblahblah" that's all it is... History... What matters is the here and now, and the FUTURE is not looking too rosy for Poopey, Chav capital of Britain.
Just loving it.... Laughing at your cheating club that's in free fall... Priceless :-D

[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Not a dive, Jay falls avoiding being kicked. Dangerous play by defender who should have stayed on his feet. Boruc looked brave but erratic, not sure if he is the answer. Shaw was stretching to keep in the dodgy throw from boric which led to his injury. Hope Ramirez gets his head up, he's not looking happy.[/p][/quote]Having watched the replay many times, I have to say there was no intention to dive, JRod is the victim of histrionics from Bale and Co. which has brought on the MoD paranoia. If Villa deserved to lose it was because of the poor sportsmanship shown when Shaw went down. Ramirez isn't a player that relishes relegation battles, he is talented, but is more of a luxury player that will come good when the rest of the team start playing good open flowing football. The Sky Sports second commentator was annoying too, when Ramirez was raked by studs off the pitch in the first half, the commentator flippantly remarked that it was the Saints players fault because he left his leg there, after watching the replay he retracted the statement, by saying it was a fifty fifty challenge![/p][/quote]The challenge on Ramirez again was reckless, he was lucky that he did in the end back out of it. The villa player has gone in both legs off the ground, one going in studs up! What control has he got? None. Like I mentioned earlier I don't think any challenges were malicious but reckless and out of control. I do agree bale and co haven't helped and diving does need to be erased from the game, but Jay rod didn't dive and the challenge on him and punch was reckless like the others.[/p][/quote]In my opinion you are spot on GHK, thanks for a well thought out opinion, and no, I must stress I am not being sarcastic or anything, I agree with your statement.[/p][/quote]Even a broken clock is right twice a day![/p][/quote]Talking about time on here is a sensitive subject and may upset our blue phew WUMs so best avoided.[/p][/quote]Talkin bout trophies on here is even more sensitive. u lot just dont like it[/p][/quote]Heeeheeee You Poopey lot are continuing to be an embarrassment to football... All you go on about is "history this...history that... blahblahblah" that's all it is... History... What matters is the here and now, and the FUTURE is not looking too rosy for Poopey, Chav capital of Britain. Just loving it.... Laughing at your cheating club that's in free fall... Priceless :-D Norwegian Saint

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slugger says...
7:01pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Lol Saintlysoul , you asked for comments yeah ? ....... read and weep mush !

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OSPREYSAINT says...
7:03pm Sun 13 Jan 13

There is another thread "Villa boss won't press panic button" can I invite the WUMs and trolls to talk amongst themselves on there and leave us to discuss the Saints on here in peace? Not too much to ask is it?

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OSPREYSAINT says...
7:12pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Rsoul QUOTE: "Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!! "

Rsoul RESPONSE TO A REPLY:-
"Do I really care what you think you'll mark my words in due course! Just wait and see."

Why bother?

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Norwegian Saint says...
7:15pm Sun 13 Jan 13

saintlysoul wrote:

Norwegian Saint wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:
I can't believe tha so much time and effort has been expended by individuals on here debating the penalty. It was a penalty. Lambert scored. Saints won that's it. Nothing is achieved by this post mortem. Move on to the next game!

For all of you, especially Slugger who suggest I'm a 'skate' why would I attend every Saints game is I was?

I want saints to succeed like all of you I just get very frustrated at what I hear going on behind the scenes. Sadly it's not as rosey as you all think. Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads and that concerns me particularly at this time of the season! Di Matteo waits in the wings one more defeat could seal NA's fate.

I'm increasingly frustrated at JWP being constantly on the bench. I cannot understand why he does not play. He's a holding creative midfielder. He wasvexcellent at the beginning of the season. How does he not get on ahead of Steven Davis? The only explanation is thatbDavis is paid more than JWP Davis is the highest paid player in the team even being paid more than Lalana and Ramirez!!! If this is the basis of team selection IMO it is wrong. Is that why Guly is in favour so much?

Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!!
well here's my veiw for what It's worth.

go and shove your head back up your arse.
What are horrible human being you are!!!!
Saintlysoul... The problem with you is either your glass is half empty or your a skate... or both.
You put so much rubbish on here which again makes one of two things appear...
Your a smelly fish or just a complete idiot talking bullocks.
Do I really care what you think you'll mark my words in due course! Just wait and see.

Well... That seals it then... Your a half empty, smelly, idiot.
Us Saints are together as one... and you my little Skate have been found out.

[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I can't believe tha so much time and effort has been expended by individuals on here debating the penalty. It was a penalty. Lambert scored. Saints won that's it. Nothing is achieved by this post mortem. Move on to the next game! For all of you, especially Slugger who suggest I'm a 'skate' why would I attend every Saints game is I was? I want saints to succeed like all of you I just get very frustrated at what I hear going on behind the scenes. Sadly it's not as rosey as you all think. Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads and that concerns me particularly at this time of the season! Di Matteo waits in the wings one more defeat could seal NA's fate. I'm increasingly frustrated at JWP being constantly on the bench. I cannot understand why he does not play. He's a holding creative midfielder. He wasvexcellent at the beginning of the season. How does he not get on ahead of Steven Davis? The only explanation is thatbDavis is paid more than JWP Davis is the highest paid player in the team even being paid more than Lalana and Ramirez!!! If this is the basis of team selection IMO it is wrong. Is that why Guly is in favour so much? Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!![/p][/quote]well here's my veiw for what It's worth. go and shove your head back up your arse.[/p][/quote]What are horrible human being you are!!!![/p][/quote]Saintlysoul... The problem with you is either your glass is half empty or your a skate... or both. You put so much rubbish on here which again makes one of two things appear... Your a smelly fish or just a complete idiot talking bullocks.[/p][/quote]Do I really care what you think you'll mark my words in due course! Just wait and see.[/p][/quote]Well... That seals it then... Your a half empty, smelly, idiot. Us Saints are together as one... and you my little Skate have been found out. Norwegian Saint

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Norwegian Saint says...
7:22pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Sorry OSPREY
Back to our Premiership club.
Just got back from my little cabin and seen the disputed penalty.
Did they give it for the foul on Punchy?
Definitely no contact and a soft penalty but how unlucky have we been in the last few months?
I think we might find ourselves in/near the bottom three in March... Those last four games will be make or break.

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Bring back Branfoot says...
7:26pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Well it's quite the bumpkin barn dance in here tonight. All my favourite yokels are in, Valerie, Seed, Agnus & Ospers. What's the topic of conversation? Not, what colour do you get if you mix red and yellow, not again, I thought I explained it to you all.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
7:26pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Just been looking at some newspaper stats. Highest speed in mph when the ball is in or out of play where the player achieves a minimum of 7 metres per second for at least 5 metres:- Rickie Lambert 23.44. Player covering total distance in play 3rd Rickie Lambert 5.88 miles (Spider 6.32 miles). and fat bloke Captains team to victory, same fat bloke scores winning goal. Not bad eh! 141 for someone you don't rate.

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Velleity says...
7:27pm Sun 13 Jan 13

saintlysoul wrote:

Velleity wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:
I can't believe tha so much time and effort has been expended by individuals on here debating the penalty. It was a penalty. Lambert scored. Saints won that's it. Nothing is achieved by this post mortem. Move on to the next game!

For all of you, especially Slugger who suggest I'm a 'skate' why would I attend every Saints game is I was?

I want saints to succeed like all of you I just get very frustrated at what I hear going on behind the scenes. Sadly it's not as rosey as you all think. Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads and that concerns me particularly at this time of the season! Di Matteo waits in the wings one more defeat could seal NA's fate.

I'm increasingly frustrated at JWP being constantly on the bench. I cannot understand why he does not play. He's a holding creative midfielder. He wasvexcellent at the beginning of the season. How does he not get on ahead of Steven Davis? The only explanation is thatbDavis is paid more than JWP Davis is the highest paid player in the team even being paid more than Lalana and Ramirez!!! If this is the basis of team selection IMO it is wrong. Is that why Guly is in favour so much?

Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!!
OK, as it's a day for dealing with WUMs, here goes.

1. If I consistently made comments that were so negative that people assumed I was a WUM or a Portsmouth supporter, I'd be questioning what I was typing. Plenty of people come on here, comment negatively and aren't given that treatment.

2. "Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads". I've been hearing versions of that for a couple of seasons yet I have NEVER, not once, heard a shred of evidence for it. You have given no evidence and you're the only one shouting it in every post. Perhaps we SHOULD believe you but we have n reason to. Constant repetition does not make something true.

3. You rate JWP highly. We've got the message. Do you sit and watch him in every training session? Do you have the GSP readouts from his every training session? Do you have access to his medical and fitness records? NA does and he doesn't pick him.

4.The concept that payers are selected because of their wages has no basis at all (again). It's not "The only explanation"; it's one, very unlikely, expanation. What possible motive would NA have for doing that? Seriously?

5. Guly is class.

Serious enough response for you?
That is actually thought provoking and a welcomed intelligent non-abusive response thank you!!!!

This reponse - "Do I really care what you think you'll mark my words in due course! Just wait and see" just reinforces the image you've created of being an empty vessel shouting the same messages sans evidence of any kind. Combine that with the lack of response to any points in my post and you'll see why you're considered to be a WUM.

It's odd, I've never, not once, seen a post where people state that they have inside info telling them that NA and NC get on just fine. It does seem odd.

When you said "there is no money left so no signings" (which you inexplicably left out of your rant above) Baddesley Bill and I both offered to bet £50 to go to charity if you were right. You then laughably claimed that it would be "insider trading" to take the bet - for charity!

So, I'm afraid that I'm with James Whitcombe Riley "when I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck". Replace "duck" with WUM and you'll be there.

[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I can't believe tha so much time and effort has been expended by individuals on here debating the penalty. It was a penalty. Lambert scored. Saints won that's it. Nothing is achieved by this post mortem. Move on to the next game! For all of you, especially Slugger who suggest I'm a 'skate' why would I attend every Saints game is I was? I want saints to succeed like all of you I just get very frustrated at what I hear going on behind the scenes. Sadly it's not as rosey as you all think. Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads and that concerns me particularly at this time of the season! Di Matteo waits in the wings one more defeat could seal NA's fate. I'm increasingly frustrated at JWP being constantly on the bench. I cannot understand why he does not play. He's a holding creative midfielder. He wasvexcellent at the beginning of the season. How does he not get on ahead of Steven Davis? The only explanation is thatbDavis is paid more than JWP Davis is the highest paid player in the team even being paid more than Lalana and Ramirez!!! If this is the basis of team selection IMO it is wrong. Is that why Guly is in favour so much? Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!![/p][/quote]OK, as it's a day for dealing with WUMs, here goes. 1. If I consistently made comments that were so negative that people assumed I was a WUM or a Portsmouth supporter, I'd be questioning what I was typing. Plenty of people come on here, comment negatively and aren't given that treatment. 2. "Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads". I've been hearing versions of that for a couple of seasons yet I have NEVER, not once, heard a shred of evidence for it. You have given no evidence and you're the only one shouting it in every post. Perhaps we SHOULD believe you but we have n reason to. Constant repetition does not make something true. 3. You rate JWP highly. We've got the message. Do you sit and watch him in every training session? Do you have the GSP readouts from his every training session? Do you have access to his medical and fitness records? NA does and he doesn't pick him. 4.The concept that payers are selected because of their wages has no basis at all (again). It's not "The only explanation"; it's one, very unlikely, expanation. What possible motive would NA have for doing that? Seriously? 5. Guly is class. Serious enough response for you?[/p][/quote]That is actually thought provoking and a welcomed intelligent non-abusive response thank you!!!![/p][/quote]This reponse - "Do I really care what you think you'll mark my words in due course! Just wait and see" just reinforces the image you've created of being an empty vessel shouting the same messages sans evidence of any kind. Combine that with the lack of response to any points in my post and you'll see why you're considered to be a WUM. It's odd, I've never, not once, seen a post where people state that they have inside info telling them that NA and NC get on just fine. It does seem odd. When you said "there is no money left so no signings" (which you inexplicably left out of your rant above) Baddesley Bill and I both offered to bet £50 to go to charity if you were right. You then laughably claimed that it would be "insider trading" to take the bet - for charity! So, I'm afraid that I'm with James Whitcombe Riley "when I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck". Replace "duck" with WUM and you'll be there. Velleity

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SupportTheSaints says...
7:28pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Jay didn't dive, he dodged the the
challenge and fell, he didn't appeal for a Penalty, and to anyone who says Southampton are cheats are plain dumb, it may make Pompey fans feel better about calling us cheats to hide there depression for there club being so **** but at least Southampton are on top of the South and it will stay that way whether we go down or not.

Any relagation predictions?

Aston Villa or Wigan
Reading
Queens Park Rangers

Newcastle could meet the drop zone soon?

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OSPREYSAINT says...
7:29pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Well it's quite the bumpkin barn dance in here tonight. All my favourite yokels are in, Valerie, Seed, Agnus & Ospers. What's the topic of conversation? Not, what colour do you get if you mix red and yellow, not again, I thought I explained it to you all.

Haven't a clue about what you are on about, I suspect it is abusive, false and malicious as usual, but it is too difficult for a yokel like me to figure it out, so basically a waste of your time.

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slugger says...
7:32pm Sun 13 Jan 13

SupportTheSaints wrote:
Jay didn't dive, he dodged the the
challenge and fell, he didn't appeal for a Penalty, and to anyone who says Southampton are cheats are plain dumb, it may make Pompey fans feel better about calling us cheats to hide there depression for there club being so **** but at least Southampton are on top of the South and it will stay that way whether we go down or not.

Any relagation predictions?

Aston Villa or Wigan
Reading
Queens Park Rangers

Newcastle could meet the drop zone soon?

My prediction before the start of the season was ...... QPR , Reading and Villa .... i'll stick with that i think .

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ghk230473 says...
7:33pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Norwegian Saint wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote: Not a dive, Jay falls avoiding being kicked. Dangerous play by defender who should have stayed on his feet. Boruc looked brave but erratic, not sure if he is the answer. Shaw was stretching to keep in the dodgy throw from boric which led to his injury. Hope Ramirez gets his head up, he's not looking happy.
Having watched the replay many times, I have to say there was no intention to dive, JRod is the victim of histrionics from Bale and Co. which has brought on the MoD paranoia. If Villa deserved to lose it was because of the poor sportsmanship shown when Shaw went down. Ramirez isn't a player that relishes relegation battles, he is talented, but is more of a luxury player that will come good when the rest of the team start playing good open flowing football. The Sky Sports second commentator was annoying too, when Ramirez was raked by studs off the pitch in the first half, the commentator flippantly remarked that it was the Saints players fault because he left his leg there, after watching the replay he retracted the statement, by saying it was a fifty fifty challenge!
The challenge on Ramirez again was reckless, he was lucky that he did in the end back out of it. The villa player has gone in both legs off the ground, one going in studs up! What control has he got? None. Like I mentioned earlier I don't think any challenges were malicious but reckless and out of control. I do agree bale and co haven't helped and diving does need to be erased from the game, but Jay rod didn't dive and the challenge on him and punch was reckless like the others.
In my opinion you are spot on GHK, thanks for a well thought out opinion, and no, I must stress I am not being sarcastic or anything, I agree with your statement.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day!
Talking about time on here is a sensitive subject and may upset our blue phew WUMs so best avoided.
Talkin bout trophies on here is even more sensitive. u lot just dont like it
Heeeheeee
You Poopey lot are continuing to be an embarrassment to football...
All you go on about is "history this...history that... blahblahblah" that's all it is... History... What matters is the here and now, and the FUTURE is not looking too rosy for Poopey, Chav capital of Britain.
Just loving it.... Laughing at your cheating club that's in free fall... Priceless :-D

Pompey are history!!!! Ha ha ha hohoho hehehehehehe ooooo hahahahahaha hooooooooooo heeeeheehee cough cough splutter

[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Not a dive, Jay falls avoiding being kicked. Dangerous play by defender who should have stayed on his feet. Boruc looked brave but erratic, not sure if he is the answer. Shaw was stretching to keep in the dodgy throw from boric which led to his injury. Hope Ramirez gets his head up, he's not looking happy.[/p][/quote]Having watched the replay many times, I have to say there was no intention to dive, JRod is the victim of histrionics from Bale and Co. which has brought on the MoD paranoia. If Villa deserved to lose it was because of the poor sportsmanship shown when Shaw went down. Ramirez isn't a player that relishes relegation battles, he is talented, but is more of a luxury player that will come good when the rest of the team start playing good open flowing football. The Sky Sports second commentator was annoying too, when Ramirez was raked by studs off the pitch in the first half, the commentator flippantly remarked that it was the Saints players fault because he left his leg there, after watching the replay he retracted the statement, by saying it was a fifty fifty challenge![/p][/quote]The challenge on Ramirez again was reckless, he was lucky that he did in the end back out of it. The villa player has gone in both legs off the ground, one going in studs up! What control has he got? None. Like I mentioned earlier I don't think any challenges were malicious but reckless and out of control. I do agree bale and co haven't helped and diving does need to be erased from the game, but Jay rod didn't dive and the challenge on him and punch was reckless like the others.[/p][/quote]In my opinion you are spot on GHK, thanks for a well thought out opinion, and no, I must stress I am not being sarcastic or anything, I agree with your statement.[/p][/quote]Even a broken clock is right twice a day![/p][/quote]Talking about time on here is a sensitive subject and may upset our blue phew WUMs so best avoided.[/p][/quote]Talkin bout trophies on here is even more sensitive. u lot just dont like it[/p][/quote]Heeeheeee You Poopey lot are continuing to be an embarrassment to football... All you go on about is "history this...history that... blahblahblah" that's all it is... History... What matters is the here and now, and the FUTURE is not looking too rosy for Poopey, Chav capital of Britain. Just loving it.... Laughing at your cheating club that's in free fall... Priceless :-D[/p][/quote]Pompey are history!!!! Ha ha ha hohoho hehehehehehe ooooo hahahahahaha hooooooooooo heeeeheehee cough cough splutter ghk230473

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OSPREYSAINT says...
7:35pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Sorry OSPREY
Back to our Premiership club.
Just got back from my little cabin and seen the disputed penalty.
Did they give it for the foul on Punchy?
Definitely no contact and a soft penalty but how unlucky have we been in the last few months?
I think we might find ourselves in/near the bottom three in March... Those last four games will be make or break.

We do need to buy, to strengthen the side, or even a third place will be a miracle. I am hoping for 17th as a worse case scenario, but nothing is impossible given a bit of luck, a bit of NA/NC magic, 100% from the players, we know the support of the fans (well most of them) is not in question.

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saintshorse101 says...
7:35pm Sun 13 Jan 13

saintlysoul wrote:
I can't believe tha so much time and effort has been expended by individuals on here debating the penalty. It was a penalty. Lambert scored. Saints won that's it. Nothing is achieved by this post mortem. Move on to the next game! For all of you, especially Slugger who suggest I'm a 'skate' why would I attend every Saints game is I was? I want saints to succeed like all of you I just get very frustrated at what I hear going on behind the scenes. Sadly it's not as rosey as you all think. Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads and that concerns me particularly at this time of the season! Di Matteo waits in the wings one more defeat could seal NA's fate. I'm increasingly frustrated at JWP being constantly on the bench. I cannot understand why he does not play. He's a holding creative midfielder. He wasvexcellent at the beginning of the season. How does he not get on ahead of Steven Davis? The only explanation is thatbDavis is paid more than JWP Davis is the highest paid player in the team even being paid more than Lalana and Ramirez!!! If this is the basis of team selection IMO it is wrong. Is that why Guly is in favour so much? Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!!

anyone can say that the manager and chairman dont get on and the manager will be sacked. the manager may be sacked, might be tomorrow might be in 5 years time, it dosent take a genius to say it will happen. all that will happen is that if NA is still manager in a few years time you will be proved wrong and go quiet, but if he`s sacked this season you will go on about how right you were. as for the wage structure that you seem to know so much about please tell us how you know, dont just say a friend of mine is in the know. no manager would ever pick a team through the wages, except last season when poopey couldnt play tbh because his bonus would kick in, and to suggest that NA would do so shows what little you think of him. NA is a man of integrity, look at the way he wouldnt leave scunny untill they got a propper pay off. if NA can stand up to NC about that then he wouldnt do what you and others suggest now. same with transfers, NA will sit round a table with the `transfer team` and they will disscus targets, its then the job of NC and his team to get those players. this systems has worked for years in american sports so whats the problem?
as for you being a saints fans, to be honest, i cant see it.

[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I can't believe tha so much time and effort has been expended by individuals on here debating the penalty. It was a penalty. Lambert scored. Saints won that's it. Nothing is achieved by this post mortem. Move on to the next game! For all of you, especially Slugger who suggest I'm a 'skate' why would I attend every Saints game is I was? I want saints to succeed like all of you I just get very frustrated at what I hear going on behind the scenes. Sadly it's not as rosey as you all think. Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads and that concerns me particularly at this time of the season! Di Matteo waits in the wings one more defeat could seal NA's fate. I'm increasingly frustrated at JWP being constantly on the bench. I cannot understand why he does not play. He's a holding creative midfielder. He wasvexcellent at the beginning of the season. How does he not get on ahead of Steven Davis? The only explanation is thatbDavis is paid more than JWP Davis is the highest paid player in the team even being paid more than Lalana and Ramirez!!! If this is the basis of team selection IMO it is wrong. Is that why Guly is in favour so much? Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!![/p][/quote]anyone can say that the manager and chairman dont get on and the manager will be sacked. the manager may be sacked, might be tomorrow might be in 5 years time, it dosent take a genius to say it will happen. all that will happen is that if NA is still manager in a few years time you will be proved wrong and go quiet, but if he`s sacked this season you will go on about how right you were. as for the wage structure that you seem to know so much about please tell us how you know, dont just say a friend of mine is in the know. no manager would ever pick a team through the wages, except last season when poopey couldnt play tbh because his bonus would kick in, and to suggest that NA would do so shows what little you think of him. NA is a man of integrity, look at the way he wouldnt leave scunny untill they got a propper pay off. if NA can stand up to NC about that then he wouldnt do what you and others suggest now. same with transfers, NA will sit round a table with the `transfer team` and they will disscus targets, its then the job of NC and his team to get those players. this systems has worked for years in american sports so whats the problem? as for you being a saints fans, to be honest, i cant see it. saintshorse101

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
7:36pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Some of you have the comprehension and learning power of a skunt.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
7:50pm Sun 13 Jan 13

slugger wrote:

SupportTheSaints wrote:
Jay didn't dive, he dodged the the
challenge and fell, he didn't appeal for a Penalty, and to anyone who says Southampton are cheats are plain dumb, it may make Pompey fans feel better about calling us cheats to hide there depression for there club being so **** but at least Southampton are on top of the South and it will stay that way whether we go down or not.

Any relagation predictions?

Aston Villa or Wigan
Reading
Queens Park Rangers

Newcastle could meet the drop zone soon?
My prediction before the start of the season was ...... QPR , Reading and Villa .... i'll stick with that i think .

Wigan and Newcastle are still in the mix, do you reckon they have enough to survive, it is not a case of being too big to fall. We are far from safe and any more bad luck with injuries and we could be back in the muck very quickly. I am optimistic that we can make it, but realistic enough to know it's going to be hard work. Much as I don't like what Rsoul and BbB are spouting, what they preach isn't without some substance, we can not afford to be complacent, but as fans we can only offer our full support, and that means no negative thoughts even if you have concerns.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
8:07pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Some of you have the comprehension and learning power of a skunt.

I know you spend time on the News site, any chance of keeping us up to speed on the mood down there, I can't be asked to go on there as it has been so depressing in the past. My interest is mostly about the decent fans rather than the Club which I lost all respect for long ago.

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RedArmy1 says...
8:16pm Sun 13 Jan 13

THE AWAY SQUAD DID WELL YESTERDAY.

WE LOVE YOU SOUTHAMPTON .. WE DO .. OH SOUTHAMPTON WE LOVE YOU !!!

RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMY.

WE RULE THE SOUTH.
COYR

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OSPREYSAINT says...
8:21pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Norway, I forgot to respond about the reason that the Penalty being given, the jury is out, the majority that I have spoken to, say that Halsey spoke to Andy Crosby at half time and clearly said to him that it was for the GK foul on Puncheon, can't coroborate it, the Referees spokesman on Sky Sports contradicted that statement and said it was for the intent on JRod. I am leaning towards the former argument but in my opinion it was a dubious shout either way, I am not complaining, it still had to be finished off and Rickie did that in style.

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rocketone says...
8:21pm Sun 13 Jan 13

All of us have doubts.
Also most of us can clearly read the league table.
Still doesn't condone negative thinking and deliberate misinformation.
I support the Saints.
STH and proud of it.
I can only comment on what I know and what I think.
I think a lot of these WUMs aren't even football fans. Haven't you noticed they never quote any football facts?
Just the echoings from an empty mind?

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slugger says...
8:22pm Sun 13 Jan 13

RedArmy1 wrote:
THE AWAY SQUAD DID WELL YESTERDAY.

WE LOVE YOU SOUTHAMPTON .. WE DO .. OH SOUTHAMPTON WE LOVE YOU !!!

RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMY.

WE RULE THE SOUTH.
COYR

We love everything about our club from the cleaners right up to the owners ...... together as one !

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Baddesley Bill says...
8:24pm Sun 13 Jan 13

RedArmy1 wrote:
THE AWAY SQUAD DID WELL YESTERDAY.

WE LOVE YOU SOUTHAMPTON .. WE DO .. OH SOUTHAMPTON WE LOVE YOU !!!

RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMY.

WE RULE THE SOUTH.
COYR

Good....I think you had a little wobble for a mo there Red.

Together We Stand. COYR

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OSPREYSAINT says...
8:27pm Sun 13 Jan 13

As Citeh won again today, it's going to be a lot harder to catch them now, guess we have to set our sights a little bit lower now.

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
8:30pm Sun 13 Jan 13

slugger wrote:

RedArmy1 wrote:
THE AWAY SQUAD DID WELL YESTERDAY.

WE LOVE YOU SOUTHAMPTON .. WE DO .. OH SOUTHAMPTON WE LOVE YOU !!!

RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMY.

WE RULE THE SOUTH.
COYR
We love everything about our club from the cleaners right up to the owners ...... together as one !

Yes and the Manager too.

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RedArmy1 says...
8:32pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

slugger wrote:

RedArmy1 wrote:
THE AWAY SQUAD DID WELL YESTERDAY.

WE LOVE YOU SOUTHAMPTON .. WE DO .. OH SOUTHAMPTON WE LOVE YOU !!!

RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMY.

WE RULE THE SOUTH.
COYR
We love everything about our club from the cleaners right up to the owners ...... together as one !
Yes and the Manager too.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.

COYR.

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OSPREYSAINT says...
8:34pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

slugger wrote:

RedArmy1 wrote:
THE AWAY SQUAD DID WELL YESTERDAY.

WE LOVE YOU SOUTHAMPTON .. WE DO .. OH SOUTHAMPTON WE LOVE YOU !!!

RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMY.

WE RULE THE SOUTH.
COYR
We love everything about our club from the cleaners right up to the owners ...... together as one !
Yes and the Manager too.

Whoever he is!

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slugger says...
8:35pm Sun 13 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
As Citeh won again today, it's going to be a lot harder to catch them now, guess we have to set our sights a little bit lower now.

My tenner on us to win the prem @ 5000-1 one is looking a bit far fetched now , havn't given up on Rickie for the golden boot yet (66-1) , just need Van persie , Ba , that Spaniard at Swansea (who's mame escapes me) and others to get crocked for a few months and i'm in !

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saintshorse101 says...
8:35pm Sun 13 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
As Citeh won again today, it's going to be a lot harder to catch them now, guess we have to set our sights a little bit lower now.

4th place osprey, thats the target! and if we dont get it this season then we should sack NC, NA, half the squad and sell the team to some arabs with no money!

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slugger says...
8:36pm Sun 13 Jan 13

slugger wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
As Citeh won again today, it's going to be a lot harder to catch them now, guess we have to set our sights a little bit lower now.
My tenner on us to win the prem @ 5000-1 one is looking a bit far fetched now , havn't given up on Rickie for the golden boot yet (66-1) , just need Van persie , Ba , that Spaniard at Swansea (who's mame escapes me) and others to get crocked for a few months and i'm in !

Michu ....... that's the fella .

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
8:37pm Sun 13 Jan 13

I posted a couple of weeks back about the lurching we keep doing and it appears we continue to do.

If we lose a game it is not the end of the world, bad news yes, but not the end. It does not mean the squad are all crap and we need to sack the manager and find new owners.

If we win a game it's great news but not the end of our battle. It does not mean everything is rosy in the garden and we don't still need some changes and improvements.

There is a good chance that we will get very little out of the next three, maybe nothing at all. If that happens I've got no doubt that we will turn Wigan into the next 'must win game'. Sooner or later we will lose one of these so called games.

We need to take a measured calm stance and not react to each and every match. What is the saying NA uses? Something about not too high and not too low - whatever it is, he's bloody right!

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redandy10 says...
8:40pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Well it's quite the bumpkin barn dance in here tonight. All my favourite yokels are in, Valerie, Seed, Agnus & Ospers. What's the topic of conversation? Not, what colour do you get if you mix red and yellow, not again, I thought I explained it to you all.

Take your partner by the hand. lol

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slugger says...
8:43pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I posted a couple of weeks back about the lurching we keep doing and it appears we continue to do.

If we lose a game it is not the end of the world, bad news yes, but not the end. It does not mean the squad are all crap and we need to sack the manager and find new owners.

If we win a game it's great news but not the end of our battle. It does not mean everything is rosy in the garden and we don't still need some changes and improvements.

There is a good chance that we will get very little out of the next three, maybe nothing at all. If that happens I've got no doubt that we will turn Wigan into the next 'must win game'. Sooner or later we will lose one of these so called games.

We need to take a measured calm stance and not react to each and every match. What is the saying NA uses? Something about not too high and not too low - whatever it is, he's bloody right!

Wise words imo ..... from where i'm sitting we are indeed learning and improving , can't ask for much more really ........ I also think that Nigel will one day be Englands' manager and we're lucky to have him .... together as one !

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
8:46pm Sun 13 Jan 13

slugger wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I posted a couple of weeks back about the lurching we keep doing and it appears we continue to do.

If we lose a game it is not the end of the world, bad news yes, but not the end. It does not mean the squad are all crap and we need to sack the manager and find new owners.

If we win a game it's great news but not the end of our battle. It does not mean everything is rosy in the garden and we don't still need some changes and improvements.

There is a good chance that we will get very little out of the next three, maybe nothing at all. If that happens I've got no doubt that we will turn Wigan into the next 'must win game'. Sooner or later we will lose one of these so called games.

We need to take a measured calm stance and not react to each and every match. What is the saying NA uses? Something about not too high and not too low - whatever it is, he's bloody right!
Wise words imo ..... from where i'm sitting we are indeed learning and improving , can't ask for much more really ........ I also think that Nigel will one day be Englands' manager and we're lucky to have him .... together as one !

If we threaten him with his job every other match I don't really think we can expect any loyalty if an offer comes in.

I remain optimistic. Are there 3 worse teams than us? Yes, probably 4 or more tbh.

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st1halo says...
8:48pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Velleity wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:
I can't believe tha so much time and effort has been expended by individuals on here debating the penalty. It was a penalty. Lambert scored. Saints won that's it. Nothing is achieved by this post mortem. Move on to the next game!

For all of you, especially Slugger who suggest I'm a 'skate' why would I attend every Saints game is I was?

I want saints to succeed like all of you I just get very frustrated at what I hear going on behind the scenes. Sadly it's not as rosey as you all think. Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads and that concerns me particularly at this time of the season! Di Matteo waits in the wings one more defeat could seal NA's fate.

I'm increasingly frustrated at JWP being constantly on the bench. I cannot understand why he does not play. He's a holding creative midfielder. He wasvexcellent at the beginning of the season. How does he not get on ahead of Steven Davis? The only explanation is thatbDavis is paid more than JWP Davis is the highest paid player in the team even being paid more than Lalana and Ramirez!!! If this is the basis of team selection IMO it is wrong. Is that why Guly is in favour so much?

Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!!
OK, as it's a day for dealing with WUMs, here goes.

1. If I consistently made comments that were so negative that people assumed I was a WUM or a Portsmouth supporter, I'd be questioning what I was typing. Plenty of people come on here, comment negatively and aren't given that treatment.

2. "Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads". I've been hearing versions of that for a couple of seasons yet I have NEVER, not once, heard a shred of evidence for it. You have given no evidence and you're the only one shouting it in every post. Perhaps we SHOULD believe you but we have n reason to. Constant repetition does not make something true.

3. You rate JWP highly. We've got the message. Do you sit and watch him in every training session? Do you have the GSP readouts from his every training session? Do you have access to his medical and fitness records? NA does and he doesn't pick him.

4.The concept that payers are selected because of their wages has no basis at all (again). It's not "The only explanation"; it's one, very unlikely, expanation. What possible motive would NA have for doing that? Seriously?

5. Guly is class.

Serious enough response for you?

Apart from point No.5, I completely agree Mr V. I told saintly the other day that I'd be more than happy to discuss his points if he provided some evidence, as yet he hasn't provided any. I also read his take on yesterday's game and how anyone can find so many negatives in a quite solid performance amazes me!

STID

[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I can't believe tha so much time and effort has been expended by individuals on here debating the penalty. It was a penalty. Lambert scored. Saints won that's it. Nothing is achieved by this post mortem. Move on to the next game! For all of you, especially Slugger who suggest I'm a 'skate' why would I attend every Saints game is I was? I want saints to succeed like all of you I just get very frustrated at what I hear going on behind the scenes. Sadly it's not as rosey as you all think. Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads and that concerns me particularly at this time of the season! Di Matteo waits in the wings one more defeat could seal NA's fate. I'm increasingly frustrated at JWP being constantly on the bench. I cannot understand why he does not play. He's a holding creative midfielder. He wasvexcellent at the beginning of the season. How does he not get on ahead of Steven Davis? The only explanation is thatbDavis is paid more than JWP Davis is the highest paid player in the team even being paid more than Lalana and Ramirez!!! If this is the basis of team selection IMO it is wrong. Is that why Guly is in favour so much? Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!![/p][/quote]OK, as it's a day for dealing with WUMs, here goes. 1. If I consistently made comments that were so negative that people assumed I was a WUM or a Portsmouth supporter, I'd be questioning what I was typing. Plenty of people come on here, comment negatively and aren't given that treatment. 2. "Please believe me NC and NA are at loggerheads". I've been hearing versions of that for a couple of seasons yet I have NEVER, not once, heard a shred of evidence for it. You have given no evidence and you're the only one shouting it in every post. Perhaps we SHOULD believe you but we have n reason to. Constant repetition does not make something true. 3. You rate JWP highly. We've got the message. Do you sit and watch him in every training session? Do you have the GSP readouts from his every training session? Do you have access to his medical and fitness records? NA does and he doesn't pick him. 4.The concept that payers are selected because of their wages has no basis at all (again). It's not "The only explanation"; it's one, very unlikely, expanation. What possible motive would NA have for doing that? Seriously? 5. Guly is class. Serious enough response for you?[/p][/quote]Apart from point No.5, I completely agree Mr V. I told saintly the other day that I'd be more than happy to discuss his points if he provided some evidence, as yet he hasn't provided any. I also read his take on yesterday's game and how anyone can find so many negatives in a quite solid performance amazes me! STID st1halo

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OSPREYSAINT says...
8:50pm Sun 13 Jan 13

redandy10 wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Well it's quite the bumpkin barn dance in here tonight. All my favourite yokels are in, Valerie, Seed, Agnus & Ospers. What's the topic of conversation? Not, what colour do you get if you mix red and yellow, not again, I thought I explained it to you all.
Take your partner by the hand. lol

By The Band? Good track that.

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Bring back Branfoot says...
8:50pm Sun 13 Jan 13

redandy10 wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Well it's quite the bumpkin barn dance in here tonight. All my favourite yokels are in, Valerie, Seed, Agnus & Ospers. What's the topic of conversation? Not, what colour do you get if you mix red and yellow, not again, I thought I explained it to you all.
Take your partner by the hand. lol

Everybody dosey doe!

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st1halo says...
8:51pm Sun 13 Jan 13

slugger wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
As Citeh won again today, it's going to be a lot harder to catch them now, guess we have to set our sights a little bit lower now.
My tenner on us to win the prem @ 5000-1 one is looking a bit far fetched now , havn't given up on Rickie for the golden boot yet (66-1) , just need Van persie , Ba , that Spaniard at Swansea (who's mame escapes me) and others to get crocked for a few months and i'm in !

It would appear that our intuition about Boruc may have been proved right so far Slugger

:-)

STID

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slugger says...
8:52pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

slugger wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I posted a couple of weeks back about the lurching we keep doing and it appears we continue to do.

If we lose a game it is not the end of the world, bad news yes, but not the end. It does not mean the squad are all crap and we need to sack the manager and find new owners.

If we win a game it's great news but not the end of our battle. It does not mean everything is rosy in the garden and we don't still need some changes and improvements.

There is a good chance that we will get very little out of the next three, maybe nothing at all. If that happens I've got no doubt that we will turn Wigan into the next 'must win game'. Sooner or later we will lose one of these so called games.

We need to take a measured calm stance and not react to each and every match. What is the saying NA uses? Something about not too high and not too low - whatever it is, he's bloody right!
Wise words imo ..... from where i'm sitting we are indeed learning and improving , can't ask for much more really ........ I also think that Nigel will one day be Englands' manager and we're lucky to have him .... together as one !
If we threaten him with his job every other match I don't really think we can expect any loyalty if an offer comes in.

I remain optimistic. Are there 3 worse teams than us? Yes, probably 4 or more tbh.

Who threatens Nigel with his job ? ........... just a few numpties on here and i doubt Mr Adkins loses much sleep over it ! lol .

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OSPREYSAINT says...
8:53pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

slugger wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I posted a couple of weeks back about the lurching we keep doing and it appears we continue to do.

If we lose a game it is not the end of the world, bad news yes, but not the end. It does not mean the squad are all crap and we need to sack the manager and find new owners.

If we win a game it's great news but not the end of our battle. It does not mean everything is rosy in the garden and we don't still need some changes and improvements.

There is a good chance that we will get very little out of the next three, maybe nothing at all. If that happens I've got no doubt that we will turn Wigan into the next 'must win game'. Sooner or later we will lose one of these so called games.

We need to take a measured calm stance and not react to each and every match. What is the saying NA uses? Something about not too high and not too low - whatever it is, he's bloody right!
Wise words imo ..... from where i'm sitting we are indeed learning and improving , can't ask for much more really ........ I also think that Nigel will one day be Englands' manager and we're lucky to have him .... together as one !
If we threaten him with his job every other match I don't really think we can expect any loyalty if an offer comes in.

I remain optimistic. Are there 3 worse teams than us? Yes, probably 4 or more tbh.

I don't think any of us have threatened him about his job, he has had our support quite clearly throughout. Press speculation has been rife, but they have to say something to sell their papers don't they.

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Velleity says...
8:54pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Seed, one thing to remember is that part of the reason for the optimism is that it isn't just one game. If the season had just been the last ten games, we'd be in tenth position in the league on 14 points from 30 - same as Norwich and one point behind Chelsea.

Also, goals conceded in the past ten games, we have Chelsea and Man C on 9 and us, Stoke and Liverpool on 10.

So it's *possibly* not just a flash in the pan. Yes, we'll lose some (probably starting this week with Chelsea) which will bring Saintly..ah..sole and his ilk back on here whining, but the long-term performance is better than it might feel.

The future's bright, the future's Redwithapinstripeofg
reyand White.

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slugger says...
8:54pm Sun 13 Jan 13

st1halo wrote:

slugger wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
As Citeh won again today, it's going to be a lot harder to catch them now, guess we have to set our sights a little bit lower now.
My tenner on us to win the prem @ 5000-1 one is looking a bit far fetched now , havn't given up on Rickie for the golden boot yet (66-1) , just need Van persie , Ba , that Spaniard at Swansea (who's mame escapes me) and others to get crocked for a few months and i'm in !
It would appear that our intuition about Boruc may have been proved right so far Slugger

:-)

STID

Early days but still got that feeling ..... together as one !

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OSPREYSAINT says...
8:55pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

redandy10 wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Well it's quite the bumpkin barn dance in here tonight. All my favourite yokels are in, Valerie, Seed, Agnus & Ospers. What's the topic of conversation? Not, what colour do you get if you mix red and yellow, not again, I thought I explained it to you all.
Take your partner by the hand. lol
Everybody dosey doe!

Who did you say you were again, I can't place you.

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Velleity says...
8:55pm Sun 13 Jan 13

st1halo wrote:

slugger wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
As Citeh won again today, it's going to be a lot harder to catch them now, guess we have to set our sights a little bit lower now.
My tenner on us to win the prem @ 5000-1 one is looking a bit far fetched now , havn't given up on Rickie for the golden boot yet (66-1) , just need Van persie , Ba , that Spaniard at Swansea (who's mame escapes me) and others to get crocked for a few months and i'm in !
It would appear that our intuition about Boruc may have been proved right so far Slugger

:-)

STID

OI! And mine!

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Invidia says...
8:59pm Sun 13 Jan 13

In this thread it states "Rodriguez went down in the area without being touched by Edna Stevens" (forget the obvious mispelling of Enda Stevens).

We have looked at the incident from various replays and Nigel is wrong about no contact between Stevens and Jay Rod if you look carefully you will see Stevens pulling at Jay Rods shirt with Jay Rod pulling his foot away and the shirt pulling Jay Rod was unbalanced and had no option than going over, this is even bourne out by the picture at the start of this thread

I am probably in a minority but I believe that shirt pulling is as bad as diving and referees should give more penalties from corners etc. when all the jostling and shirt pulling is going on, this might deter some of the bully boys from all the dirty tricks that spoil the game
ly

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st1halo says...
9:07pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Velleity wrote:
Seed, one thing to remember is that part of the reason for the optimism is that it isn't just one game. If the season had just been the last ten games, we'd be in tenth position in the league on 14 points from 30 - same as Norwich and one point behind Chelsea.

Also, goals conceded in the past ten games, we have Chelsea and Man C on 9 and us, Stoke and Liverpool on 10.

So it's *possibly* not just a flash in the pan. Yes, we'll lose some (probably starting this week with Chelsea) which will bring Saintly..ah..sole and his ilk back on here whining, but the long-term performance is better than it might feel.

The future's bright, the future's Redwithapinstripeofg

reyand White.

Indeed, certainly improving, the next fixtures are going to be interesting in that we could measure how far, as we are playing teams second time around. Arsenal being an example. Tough games? Yes, but we're starting to play smarter.
My only gripe yesterday was, when ahead we should keep the ball and slow the game down, not panic and hoof! Good performances though and good approach to the game from NA.

STID

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slugger says...
9:07pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Invidia wrote:
In this thread it states "Rodriguez went down in the area without being touched by Edna Stevens" (forget the obvious mispelling of Enda Stevens).

We have looked at the incident from various replays and Nigel is wrong about no contact between Stevens and Jay Rod if you look carefully you will see Stevens pulling at Jay Rods shirt with Jay Rod pulling his foot away and the shirt pulling Jay Rod was unbalanced and had no option than going over, this is even bourne out by the picture at the start of this thread

I am probably in a minority but I believe that shirt pulling is as bad as diving and referees should give more penalties from corners etc. when all the jostling and shirt pulling is going on, this might deter some of the bully boys from all the dirty tricks that spoil the game
ly

I agree Invidia , the jostling that goes on in the box is crazy and 3 pens could be given at every corner or free kick ......... Gastons' second goal against Arsenal should have stood imo ...... but not a tv pundit gave it a second thought ...... what goes around comes around and we were owed that !

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circa 66 saint says...
9:14pm Sun 13 Jan 13

15/01/13

specially written many years ago by 10cc and really suits the blue few

Well
Good morning Judge
How are you today ?
I'm in trouble please put me away

now i am sure the many saints fans can fill the rest in just in case here's the rest

Well
Good morning Judge
How are you today ?
I'm in trouble please put me away
A pretty thing took a shine to me
I couldn't stop her so I let it be

I couldn't stop her so I let it be

I couldn't stop her so I let it be

I couldn't stop her so I let it be.

He didn't do it
He wasn't there

He didn't want it
He wouldn't dare.
Well good morning Judge
Yes I'm back again

I'm in trouble so it's back to the pen

I found a car but I couldn't pay
I fell in love and I drove it away

I fell in love and I drove it away

I fell in love and I drove it away

I fell in love and I drove it away.

He didn't do it
He wasn't there

He didn't want it
He wouldn't dare.
I didn't do it
I wasn't there
I didn't want it
I would'nt dare.

Alcatraz is like a home sweet home
I'm so wanted and I'm never alone
San Quentin is the place to be
I'm so happy and I don't wanna be free

So happy I don't wanna be free

So happy I don't wanna be free

So happy I don't wanna be free

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OSPREYSAINT says...
9:31pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Arsenal picked up a red and two yellow cards today, I think that puts us back top of the Barclays Premier Fair Play League yet again.

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slugger says...
9:36pm Sun 13 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Arsenal picked up a red and two yellow cards today, I think that puts us back top of the Barclays Premier Fair Play League yet again.

Europe here we come !

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
9:50pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Boruc was very good yesterday. One small spill but lots of safe hands and some great saves.

As I posted I expected him to play but I would personally have picked Kelv. I was wrong, Boruc was the right choice and if he can keep this up we will gain further points as a result.

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slugger says...
9:54pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Boruc was very good yesterday. One small spill but lots of safe hands and some great saves.

As I posted I expected him to play but I would personally have picked Kelv. I was wrong, Boruc was the right choice and if he can keep this up we will gain further points as a result.

I suppose it's about keeping faith with the bloke that takes the training , we all think we could do it better sometimes but the truth is .............. together as one !

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Norwegian Saint says...
10:03pm Sun 13 Jan 13

300 :-D

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Norwegian Saint says...
10:06pm Sun 13 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Arsenal picked up a red and two yellow cards today, I think that puts us back top of the Barclays Premier Fair Play League yet again.

Level with Norwich on 21.... Boruc for time wasting (good on him!)

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saintlysoul says...
10:12pm Sun 13 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rsoul QUOTE: "Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!! "

Rsoul RESPONSE TO A REPLY:-
"Do I really care what you think you'll mark my words in due course! Just wait and see."

Why bother?

Was it cold in the ground this morning Osprey?

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
10:15pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Norwegian Saint wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Arsenal picked up a red and two yellow cards today, I think that puts us back top of the Barclays Premier Fair Play League yet again.
Level with Norwich on 21.... Boruc for time wasting (good on him!)

That's one thing he can learn from Gazza. Quality lace tying without a card - twice!

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saintlysoul says...
10:18pm Sun 13 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rsoul QUOTE: "Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!! "

Rsoul RESPONSE TO A REPLY:-
"Do I really care what you think you'll mark my words in due course! Just wait and see."

Why bother?

This post is an embarrassment because as always Osprey you miss the point - look at the response it was abusive. You like the other simpletons on her can't see further than your nose upon which are balanced your rosé coloured spectacles.

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Baddesley Bill says...
10:20pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Tough games ahead of us now...no time for the faint hearted.

Yes...the usual suspects will try to undermine us if we fail to beat Chelsea, Everton or Man U.

The heartbeat of the Club...the true fans (as I've experienced at Arsenal, Everton, Stoke and Villa) will see us through.

Fantastic support...one vision...SFC forever.

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MGRA says...
10:23pm Sun 13 Jan 13

slugger wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

slugger wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I posted a couple of weeks back about the lurching we keep doing and it appears we continue to do.

If we lose a game it is not the end of the world, bad news yes, but not the end. It does not mean the squad are all crap and we need to sack the manager and find new owners.

If we win a game it's great news but not the end of our battle. It does not mean everything is rosy in the garden and we don't still need some changes and improvements.

There is a good chance that we will get very little out of the next three, maybe nothing at all. If that happens I've got no doubt that we will turn Wigan into the next 'must win game'. Sooner or later we will lose one of these so called games.

We need to take a measured calm stance and not react to each and every match. What is the saying NA uses? Something about not too high and not too low - whatever it is, he's bloody right!
Wise words imo ..... from where i'm sitting we are indeed learning and improving , can't ask for much more really ........ I also think that Nigel will one day be Englands' manager and we're lucky to have him .... together as one !
If we threaten him with his job every other match I don't really think we can expect any loyalty if an offer comes in.

I remain optimistic. Are there 3 worse teams than us? Yes, probably 4 or more tbh.
Who threatens Nigel with his job ? ........... just a few numpties on here and i doubt Mr Adkins loses much sleep over it ! lol .

the opposite... even if the worse rumours are true, what does it mean for Nigel ? He would walk into another job instantly probably on more money... Yes the sensible way forward is for Saints for stick with him, but I think he knows he has cut his teeth with Saints and is now sought after. With the resources of our club and what he has achieved, he is made.... If Nicola has a brain he will stick with him.

[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I posted a couple of weeks back about the lurching we keep doing and it appears we continue to do. If we lose a game it is not the end of the world, bad news yes, but not the end. It does not mean the squad are all crap and we need to sack the manager and find new owners. If we win a game it's great news but not the end of our battle. It does not mean everything is rosy in the garden and we don't still need some changes and improvements. There is a good chance that we will get very little out of the next three, maybe nothing at all. If that happens I've got no doubt that we will turn Wigan into the next 'must win game'. Sooner or later we will lose one of these so called games. We need to take a measured calm stance and not react to each and every match. What is the saying NA uses? Something about not too high and not too low - whatever it is, he's bloody right![/p][/quote]Wise words imo ..... from where i'm sitting we are indeed learning and improving , can't ask for much more really ........ I also think that Nigel will one day be Englands' manager and we're lucky to have him .... together as one ![/p][/quote]If we threaten him with his job every other match I don't really think we can expect any loyalty if an offer comes in. I remain optimistic. Are there 3 worse teams than us? Yes, probably 4 or more tbh.[/p][/quote]Who threatens Nigel with his job ? ........... just a few numpties on here and i doubt Mr Adkins loses much sleep over it ! lol .[/p][/quote]the opposite... even if the worse rumours are true, what does it mean for Nigel ? He would walk into another job instantly probably on more money... Yes the sensible way forward is for Saints for stick with him, but I think he knows he has cut his teeth with Saints and is now sought after. With the resources of our club and what he has achieved, he is made.... If Nicola has a brain he will stick with him. MGRA

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
10:24pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Tough games ahead of us now...no time for the faint hearted.

Yes...the usual suspects will try to undermine us if we fail to beat Chelsea, Everton or Man U.

The heartbeat of the Club...the true fans (as I've experienced at Arsenal, Everton, Stoke and Villa) will see us through.

Fantastic support...one vision...SFC forever.

and West Ham.

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Baddesley Bill says...
10:26pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Tough games ahead of us now...no time for the faint hearted.

Yes...the usual suspects will try to undermine us if we fail to beat Chelsea, Everton or Man U.

The heartbeat of the Club...the true fans (as I've experienced at Arsenal, Everton, Stoke and Villa) will see us through.

Fantastic support...one vision...SFC forever.
and West Ham.

Oh yeah...I almost forgot that one!:O)

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slugger says...
10:32pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Tough games ahead of us now...no time for the faint hearted.

Yes...the usual suspects will try to undermine us if we fail to beat Chelsea, Everton or Man U.

The heartbeat of the Club...the true fans (as I've experienced at Arsenal, Everton, Stoke and Villa) will see us through.

Fantastic support...one vision...SFC forever.
and West Ham.

Got my cousins hubby coming down for the spam game (you met him up there) ..... i dearly hope he goes home as pee'd off as we did from the Boelyn ground !

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Velleity says...
10:46pm Sun 13 Jan 13

saintlysoul wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rsoul QUOTE: "Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!! "

Rsoul RESPONSE TO A REPLY:-
"Do I really care what you think you'll mark my words in due course! Just wait and see."

Why bother?
This post is an embarrassment because as always Osprey you miss the point - look at the response it was abusive. You like the other simpletons on her can't see further than your nose upon which are balanced your rosé coloured spectacles.

My last words to you, I'm afraid. You came on and asked for serious responses. You got some and you completely, totally and utterly ignored them; your only response has been this travesty, simply accusing those who disagree with you as being naive.

No facts, no backup of your tediously repeated shouts that you are right and that there are major problems in the running of the club at many levels. You might even be right yet without evidence or argument to back it up, you're a bit like the drunk bloke shouting at the end of the bar trying to pick a fight.

Some time ago (I've looked) you used to post sensibly and with balance. You could see that there were two sides to every argument. You weren't once but you have now become just another tedious WUM. You no longer deserve the recognition of debate.

Genuinely, I feel sorry for you; you must get absolutely no pleasure from watching the team you profess to love. What an awful state to be in, winding people up who want just the same as you, success for our team. Tragic.

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saintshorse101 says...
10:52pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote: Tough games ahead of us now...no time for the faint hearted. Yes...the usual suspects will try to undermine us if we fail to beat Chelsea, Everton or Man U. The heartbeat of the Club...the true fans (as I've experienced at Arsenal, Everton, Stoke and Villa) will see us through. Fantastic support...one vision...SFC forever.
and West Ham.
Oh yeah...I almost forgot that one!:O)

4-6pts from those games would be a good return. we are a different team than when we played them last time and i think everton at home is winnable.

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slugger says...
10:55pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Velleity wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rsoul QUOTE: "Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!! "

Rsoul RESPONSE TO A REPLY:-
"Do I really care what you think you'll mark my words in due course! Just wait and see."

Why bother?
This post is an embarrassment because as always Osprey you miss the point - look at the response it was abusive. You like the other simpletons on her can't see further than your nose upon which are balanced your rosé coloured spectacles.
My last words to you, I'm afraid. You came on and asked for serious responses. You got some and you completely, totally and utterly ignored them; your only response has been this travesty, simply accusing those who disagree with you as being naive.

No facts, no backup of your tediously repeated shouts that you are right and that there are major problems in the running of the club at many levels. You might even be right yet without evidence or argument to back it up, you're a bit like the drunk bloke shouting at the end of the bar trying to pick a fight.

Some time ago (I've looked) you used to post sensibly and with balance. You could see that there were two sides to every argument. You weren't once but you have now become just another tedious WUM. You no longer deserve the recognition of debate.

Genuinely, I feel sorry for you; you must get absolutely no pleasure from watching the team you profess to love. What an awful state to be in, winding people up who want just the same as you, success for our team. Tragic.

No way is this person a Saints fan ........ it started with negativity (got sussed) started being constructive (never fooled most) and ended up being it's true self again ........ as iv'e said many times "i have a long memory" ....... keep trying mush !

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
10:56pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Velleity wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rsoul QUOTE: "Your views on this serious topic would be welcome!! "

Rsoul RESPONSE TO A REPLY:-
"Do I really care what you think you'll mark my words in due course! Just wait and see."

Why bother?
This post is an embarrassment because as always Osprey you miss the point - look at the response it was abusive. You like the other simpletons on her can't see further than your nose upon which are balanced your rosé coloured spectacles.
My last words to you, I'm afraid. You came on and asked for serious responses. You got some and you completely, totally and utterly ignored them; your only response has been this travesty, simply accusing those who disagree with you as being naive.

No facts, no backup of your tediously repeated shouts that you are right and that there are major problems in the running of the club at many levels. You might even be right yet without evidence or argument to back it up, you're a bit like the drunk bloke shouting at the end of the bar trying to pick a fight.

Some time ago (I've looked) you used to post sensibly and with balance. You could see that there were two sides to every argument. You weren't once but you have now become just another tedious WUM. You no longer deserve the recognition of debate.

Genuinely, I feel sorry for you; you must get absolutely no pleasure from watching the team you profess to love. What an awful state to be in, winding people up who want just the same as you, success for our team. Tragic.

Spot on sir!

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
10:58pm Sun 13 Jan 13

saintshorse101 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote: Tough games ahead of us now...no time for the faint hearted. Yes...the usual suspects will try to undermine us if we fail to beat Chelsea, Everton or Man U. The heartbeat of the Club...the true fans (as I've experienced at Arsenal, Everton, Stoke and Villa) will see us through. Fantastic support...one vision...SFC forever.
and West Ham.
Oh yeah...I almost forgot that one!:O)
4-6pts from those games would be a good return. we are a different team than when we played them last time and i think everton at home is winnable.

We bettered them for a large part of the first half up there, then in 10 minutes it all fell apart. We should have gone 2-0 up but missed a one on one with the keeper, that could have made a big difference.

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SaintJD says...
10:59pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Well done the lads, particularly Jos and boric, who I have to admit I felt couldn't keep us a cleansheet between them.

Great win, but get real everyone, j rod, who is getting better and better, did dive. Let's not pretend he didn't. It was a dive, we benefitted, nobody will remember it in a weeks time. We'll get, and have got, worse against us.

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
11:07pm Sun 13 Jan 13

SaintJD wrote:
Well done the lads, particularly Jos and boric, who I have to admit I felt couldn't keep us a cleansheet between them.

Great win, but get real everyone, j rod, who is getting better and better, did dive. Let's not pretend he didn't. It was a dive, we benefitted, nobody will remember it in a weeks time. We'll get, and have got, worse against us.

The bit for me is that he didn't even appeal for a Pen.

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SaintJD says...
11:16pm Sun 13 Jan 13

Not sure we will get anything Wednesday. A loss by the odd goal would be ok. Luckily NA isn't me though so with his insane contagious
positivity, maybe we can pull something off.

Keep it at 0-0 and you never know, but only the moronic chelsea fans and their booing offer us a sniff.

But I think we can beat everton and get our first major scalp at home. They are slightly off the boil at the moment.

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
11:19pm Sun 13 Jan 13

3 points from the next 3 games would be really good, 4 would be amazing.

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slugger says...
11:20pm Sun 13 Jan 13

I hope and pray that 'onest 'arry doesn't keep QPR up .... I loathe that man with a passion !

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saintshorse101 says...
11:39pm Sun 13 Jan 13

slugger wrote:
I hope and pray that 'onest 'arry doesn't keep QPR up .... I loathe that man with a passion !

seconded

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Clever Dick says...
12:05am Mon 14 Jan 13

SaintJD wrote:
Well done the lads, particularly Jos and boric, who I have to admit I felt couldn't keep us a cleansheet between them.

Great win, but get real everyone, j rod, who is getting better and better, did dive. Let's not pretend he didn't. It was a dive, we benefitted, nobody will remember it in a weeks time. We'll get, and have got, worse against us.

What a good dive though. Got us 3 pts. Practice makes perfect!!

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Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
12:18am Mon 14 Jan 13

saintshorse101 wrote:

slugger wrote:
I hope and pray that 'onest 'arry doesn't keep QPR up .... I loathe that man with a passion !
seconded

Me too. If he does keep them up it could well be at our expense. I think QPR and Reading will drop then it's one of Wigan, Villa and Saints. If either QPR or Reading get out of it then it's two of the others.

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