Saints fans hit out at 'scandalous' ticket prices (From Daily Echo)

Again, its the so called 'Top 4 clubs' ripping off the fans of smaller clubs. Arsenal charged Man City £62 last week, but in september, Saints fans were charged £25. And when we go to Wigan.....its £20. Another thing that annoys me is that the allocation of tickets for Saints fans at away games, i don't think we have had more than 2,000 tickets at any of the bigger stadia, but we have given well over that to the bigger clubs. Would love to know what the percentage allocation for away fans is in the PL.

The game is all about money and it is sucking mug footy fans dry.
Until fans stop worshipping their celebrity hero's the prices will continue to rise.
This has been a twenty year bubble that is showing no signs of bursting.
Personally I hope the bubble does burst, so we can get back to real fans watching real footballers, not these self important, egotistical, 2hats.

EP clubs have to charge the same for away supporters as they do for home supporters is seats of a similar standard. Its a logical approach.
Southampton will have been offered a lot more than 2000 tickets for tonghts game but in reality is that the relative short notice given for this re arranged game will mean it probably wont sell out.
When the big clubs come to town , as it were , the smaller clubs put their ticket prices up. Southampton are no different supporters of Man U, Man City, Liverpool , Arsenal, & Chelsea will pay about 20% more to watch their team at Southamton compared to say Reading and Wigan
In truth prices are too high but then again I think lots of things cost too much including the price of Echo!

costa gaz wrote:
The game is all about money and it is sucking mug footy fans dry.
Until fans stop worshipping their celebrity hero's the prices will continue to rise.
This has been a twenty year bubble that is showing no signs of bursting.
Personally I hope the bubble does burst, so we can get back to real fans watching real footballers, not these self important, egotistical, 2hats.

So you didn’t idolise any players when you were growing up? That has always been so.
I don’t think you should be calling fans mugs for loyally following their team either.
What I do agree with you on is that ticket prices are bordering on extortion.
I don’t see that changing any time soon, especially with the uefa fair play regulations coming into the equation on revenue streams.

Perhaps tit for tat is the answer. What if we charge the same prices and give the same proportionate allocations as the other team does for our away visits.

However I suspect there are "rules and regs" stopping this!

COYS

Ironically the home fan tickets are priced at £15 in some of the better areas.

How exactly is Nick Illingsworth watching the game at a pub - I thought it wasn't on TV?

All the time idiots are willing to pay these prices nothing will change, the £62 City fans had to shell out is unbelievable.

Gimboid wrote:
How exactly is Nick Illingsworth watching the game at a pub - I thought it wasn't on TV?

Probably in a pub using Sky Italia, unless its on ESPN

last year when i flew over from sydney to watch saints beat coventry 4-0 to get back into the promised land ..... i also watched chelsea v newcastle, the ticket cost me 55 pounds ( ozzie $95) and i was on the western side in line with the goal posts..... but sice i travelled i wanted to see it but i still thought where i was sitting was a ripp off,,,,,,, and newcastle won 2-0 as well

coyr

Just another reader wrote:
Ironically the home fan tickets are priced at £15 in some of the better areas.

£15 tickets will be the concessions the igures mentioned on here (£50 &£4 are the full price adult tickets

Gimboid wrote:
How exactly is Nick Illingsworth watching the game at a pub - I thought it wasn't on TV?

It will be on a foreign stream.Not illegal to have a forein decoder but all EPL games now have a logo on screen which is subject to copyright and any pub etc showing without permission could be subject to costly proccedings

Gimboid wrote:
How exactly is Nick Illingsworth watching the game at a pub - I thought it wasn't on TV?

It will be on a foreign stream.Not illegal to have a forein decoder but all EPL games now have a logo on screen which is subject to copyright and any pub etc showing without permission could be subject to costly proccedings for breach of copyright.

Mush On The Beach wrote:

costa gaz wrote:
The game is all about money and it is sucking mug footy fans dry.
Until fans stop worshipping their celebrity hero's the prices will continue to rise.
This has been a twenty year bubble that is showing no signs of bursting.
Personally I hope the bubble does burst, so we can get back to real fans watching real footballers, not these self important, egotistical, 2hats.

So you didn’t idolise any players when you were growing up? That has always been so.
I don’t think you should be calling fans mugs for loyally following their team either.
What I do agree with you on is that ticket prices are bordering on extortion.
I don’t see that changing any time soon, especially with the uefa fair play regulations coming into the equation on revenue streams.

I suppose i had idols when I was a small boy supporting the saints, but it was much different then, the players then had much more in common with the fans.
What I don't get is middle aged pot bellied men wearing their teams colours with their favourite players name on the back, thinking they look cool.
These people are just putting more money into footballs bulging pot, probably the same people who moan about ticket prices.
The product seems to be recession proof and while the demand is still there, the prices will continue to rise.

Just read, here in Spain, that if Pep Guardiola ends up at Citeh, his wages will be 24,000,000€ per year, this is why fans pay £50 per game.

Football tickets are too expensive because the players get paid too much, they should have a cap on wages!

Chelsea are a disgrace.Rotten from top to bottom.Abramovich is the worse thing to come out of the old soviet union since josef stalin.

costa gaz wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:

costa gaz wrote:
The game is all about money and it is sucking mug footy fans dry.
Until fans stop worshipping their celebrity hero's the prices will continue to rise.
This has been a twenty year bubble that is showing no signs of bursting.
Personally I hope the bubble does burst, so we can get back to real fans watching real footballers, not these self important, egotistical, 2hats.

So you didn’t idolise any players when you were growing up? That has always been so.
I don’t think you should be calling fans mugs for loyally following their team either.
What I do agree with you on is that ticket prices are bordering on extortion.
I don’t see that changing any time soon, especially with the uefa fair play regulations coming into the equation on revenue streams.

I suppose i had idols when I was a small boy supporting the saints, but it was much different then, the players then had much more in common with the fans.
What I don't get is middle aged pot bellied men wearing their teams colours with their favourite players name on the back, thinking they look cool.
These people are just putting more money into footballs bulging pot, probably the same people who moan about ticket prices.
The product seems to be recession proof and while the demand is still there, the prices will continue to rise.

Just read, here in Spain, that if Pep Guardiola ends up at Citeh, his wages will be 24,000,000€ per year, this is why fans pay £50 per game.

Gaz, I believe there is an old saying “Time stands still for no man”.
I’m neither defending or attacking the way it is, but you cannot live in the past.
TV money keeps it recession proof and the world stage is in love with the product.

I have a Saints shirt with Mush on the back and am not ashamed to admit it.
However, unlike Seed, Mack, Strassie, Slugger, Bill and the rest of those old slovenly over 25’s ...... I don’t have a pot belly :)

G0Rf wrote:
Football tickets are too expensive because the players get paid too much, they should have a cap on wages!

A Cap will never be enforceable in Europe. My own opinion of the salary problem:

The Bosman Ruling 1995 ...... with EU football players given the right to a free transfer at the end of their contracts, with the provision that they were transferring from a club within one EU Association to a club within another EU Association.

Cha Ching!!! the money and power moved away from the clubs and into the players pockets.

Mush On The Beach wrote:

G0Rf wrote:
Football tickets are too expensive because the players get paid too much, they should have a cap on wages!

A Cap will never be enforceable in Europe. My own opinion of the salary problem:

The Bosman Ruling 1995 ...... with EU football players given the right to a free transfer at the end of their contracts, with the provision that they were transferring from a club within one EU Association to a club within another EU Association.

Cha Ching!!! the money and power moved away from the clubs and into the players pockets.

....and agents...and bungs....

batesieboy wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:

G0Rf wrote:
Football tickets are too expensive because the players get paid too much, they should have a cap on wages!

A Cap will never be enforceable in Europe. My own opinion of the salary problem:

The Bosman Ruling 1995 ...... with EU football players given the right to a free transfer at the end of their contracts, with the provision that they were transferring from a club within one EU Association to a club within another EU Association.

Cha Ching!!! the money and power moved away from the clubs and into the players pockets.

....and agents...and bungs....

Bungs were around in Cloughie’s day, allegedly.
Yes Agents, agreed, but they were just a bi-product and niche created by the change in the balance of power.

As long as people pay the prices the clubs will do it. The solution is boycott the game if you are against it but who will want to miss out? It sucks but that's the way the world works these days. We're all getting mugged left, right and centre whether it be the bank, the government or our football teams. The rich minority get richer because they are in charge of everything and us common blokes put up with it.

The last few seasons i've rarely missed an away game but this just been to Arsenal and Stoke so far and will be going to Wigan. Prices are definitely the main reason for this

Yes, PL pricing is at best disparative, but, when you look at the wages etc PL teams pay, they have to recoup it somehow, and the obvious way is through ticket prices. It's the "supply & demand" logic. I'm a Crewe fan, and our ticket prices have risen, but still at a reasonable level, infact the tickets for the Northern Area Final of the JPT @ Coventry are £5 - not bad value. Yes, boycott the matches in protest at ticket prices, but what good would this do, would it not force ticket prices, season tickets etc up in the long run as the club would have to recoup the lost revenue via other streams.

Mush On The Beach wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:

costa gaz wrote:
The game is all about money and it is sucking mug footy fans dry.
Until fans stop worshipping their celebrity hero's the prices will continue to rise.
This has been a twenty year bubble that is showing no signs of bursting.
Personally I hope the bubble does burst, so we can get back to real fans watching real footballers, not these self important, egotistical, 2hats.

So you didn’t idolise any players when you were growing up? That has always been so.
I don’t think you should be calling fans mugs for loyally following their team either.
What I do agree with you on is that ticket prices are bordering on extortion.
I don’t see that changing any time soon, especially with the uefa fair play regulations coming into the equation on revenue streams.

I suppose i had idols when I was a small boy supporting the saints, but it was much different then, the players then had much more in common with the fans.
What I don't get is middle aged pot bellied men wearing their teams colours with their favourite players name on the back, thinking they look cool.
These people are just putting more money into footballs bulging pot, probably the same people who moan about ticket prices.
The product seems to be recession proof and while the demand is still there, the prices will continue to rise.

Just read, here in Spain, that if Pep Guardiola ends up at Citeh, his wages will be 24,000,000€ per year, this is why fans pay £50 per game.

Gaz, I believe there is an old saying “Time stands still for no man”.
I’m neither defending or attacking the way it is, but you cannot live in the past.
TV money keeps it recession proof and the world stage is in love with the product.

I have a Saints shirt with Mush on the back and am not ashamed to admit it.
However, unlike Seed, Mack, Strassie, Slugger, Bill and the rest of those old slovenly over 25’s ...... I don’t have a pot belly :)

I have the body of a god..Buddha.

The best way to send a message is to match other clubs away fan prices next year. How will Chelsea fans feel when they will pay £50 to visit SMS???

Eastbourne Outpost wrote:
The best way to send a message is to match other clubs away fan prices next year. How will Chelsea fans feel when they will pay £50 to visit SMS???

They'll be outraged. Especially as you won't have a game against them. You'll be a division below them.

durkiboy wrote:
Yes, PL pricing is at best disparative, but, when you look at the wages etc PL teams pay, they have to recoup it somehow, and the obvious way is through ticket prices. It's the "supply & demand" logic. I'm a Crewe fan, and our ticket prices have risen, but still at a reasonable level, infact the tickets for the Northern Area Final of the JPT @ Coventry are £5 - not bad value. Yes, boycott the matches in protest at ticket prices, but what good would this do, would it not force ticket prices, season tickets etc up in the long run as the club would have to recoup the lost revenue via other streams.

Now that really is extortion of supporters. £5 to see the area final of the Johnsons Paint Pot Atrophy. Not worth more than 50p.

all the board and players on mega bucks should start taking stock for the sake of fans during this recesion! its the fans keeping them in a job,many now strugg
ling!

It's the same old story. As long as there are enough stupid people willing to pay we'll keep charging more and more, but when nobody wants to pay we'll bring our price down until they do. So ticket prices are in the hands of the fans. Join with all the other fan clubs and organize boycotts. No cash flow, no business. the clubs will have to do something then, like lowering wages they can afford on reduced entry prices. But being what they are they'll continue paying and moan about the price. THE POWER IS WITH THE PAYING CUSTOMER. ask any shop owner.

three halves wrote:
All the time idiots are willing to pay these prices nothing will change, the £62 City fans had to shell out is unbelievable.

That's exactly the view I have, not only just in football but in all walks of life, it's all Market Market Driven.
Price comparisson here: Pint of Bulmers @ local pub £3-30, pint of Bulmers @ Posh Hotel £5.75... Because people pay it they will continue to charge stupid prices, if everyone stopped paying the high price it would force the market to change it's attitude and drive the price down, simple business sense. I try not to not to pay for anything if the over inflated price is ridiculous. Here's hoping the working class fan gets his/herway sooner rather than later!

I for one would certainly like to see more scrutiny/transparenc
y of top incomes in the game and their possible linkage to 'offshore tax avoidance' schemes. If you can't cap the ticket prices, at least make sure that honest hard-working tax payers aren't being ripped off too.

Skating on thin ice says...
7:35pm Wed 16 Jan 13

durkiboy wrote:
Yes, PL pricing is at best disparative, but, when you look at the wages etc PL teams pay, they have to recoup it somehow, and the obvious way is through ticket prices. It's the "supply & demand" logic. I'm a Crewe fan, and our ticket prices have risen, but still at a reasonable level, infact the tickets for the Northern Area Final of the JPT @ Coventry are £5 - not bad value. Yes, boycott the matches in protest at ticket prices, but what good would this do, would it not force ticket prices, season tickets etc up in the long run as the club would have to recoup the lost revenue via other streams.

Now that really is extortion of supporters. £5 to see the area final of the Johnsons Paint Pot Atrophy. Not worth more than 50p.

Ah yes, this would be the same trophy that Southampton won in 2010, some 34 years after winning their last trophy............

Skating on thin ice wrote:

durkiboy wrote:
Yes, PL pricing is at best disparative, but, when you look at the wages etc PL teams pay, they have to recoup it somehow, and the obvious way is through ticket prices. It's the "supply & demand" logic. I'm a Crewe fan, and our ticket prices have risen, but still at a reasonable level, infact the tickets for the Northern Area Final of the JPT @ Coventry are £5 - not bad value. Yes, boycott the matches in protest at ticket prices, but what good would this do, would it not force ticket prices, season tickets etc up in the long run as the club would have to recoup the lost revenue via other streams.

Now that really is extortion of supporters. £5 to see the area final of the Johnsons Paint Pot Atrophy. Not worth more than 50p.

Ah yes, this would be the same trophy that Southampton won in 2010, some 34 years after winning their last trophy............

To be honest Saints are charging £45 for the visit of Man City which is only £2 less than what Chesea are charging, the issue here is the extra cost for travel which adds a considerable sum to the ticket prices.