Lawrie Mac: Adkins' sacking is most shocking move yet (From Daily Echo)
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Lawrie McMenemy admits he was knocked back by Nicola Cortese's decision to replace Nigel Adkins with Mauricio Pochettino
11:14am Saturday 19th January 2013 in Sport
By Lawrie McMenemy
Nicola Cortese
SPEAKING as a manager with more than a little experience – in fact well over 1,000 games at every level from fourth division to internationals – I never get too surprised. But I have to admit that the dismissal of Nigel Adkins and the way it was conducted knocked me back.
Sir Alex, and you’ll get nobody more respected in the world of football, called it “crazy.”
Other leading figures have used words like shameful and unforgiveable.
The bookmakers as ever were ahead of the game and realised something was off when, according to one I saw on TV, bets for as much as £500 were being laid at odds of 25- 1, not only for Nigel losing his job but giving the name of the person to take over.
At his first press conference the new manager tried to evade the question about when he was first approached for the job but did admit he had been researching the team over the past weeks.
It will be helpful to him, and believe me he will need as much as he can get, but it really does look bad as those comments seem to suggest that Nigel Adkins was what I can only describe as a dead man walking.
You have to think he could even have won at Chelsea and would still have been sacked.
I thought I had heard it all when Alan Pardew was sacked three days after winning 4-0 in an away game, but this one beats it all!
I have to accept, like many of the oldies, that the game has changed dramatically.
I have talked on many occasions in this column about the influx of people from other countries, and particularly business types who obviously have no background previously in football.
They don’t try to hide this and make it quite clear they see Premier League clubs as great business opportunities and we seem to be experiencing this with our club at St Mary’s.
I say OUR club but I don’t suppose it is anymore.
I of course can compare the way the boardrooms used to be.
While there were 92 professional clubs there were very few that could match the quality and type of director that ran Southampton Football Club.
It was a collection of experienced businessmen who were working and giving other people jobs in the community, men such as George Reeder, the chairman, who had refereed a World Cup final so had more than a little football experience as well.
They looked on their roles as representing the man on the terrace.
No one can say that is the case here now.
It’s not often that the manager’s name is sung out loud and clear every game, win, lose or draw.
But that shows Nigel Adkins had won over St Mary’s, particularly the area which a previous chairman with great ambitions had called the lunatic fringe, but I call the loyal fringe.
You can’t kid them. They work their socks off to make enough money to support the team through thick and thin, home and away, and when they sing your name they know what they’re doing.
They will be as shocked as anyone.
All right football is a very fragile occupation and a few wins in a row can sometimes make people forget what has gone before, but I think the new man, Mr Pochettino, has got quite a task in a short time.
There are 16 games left and in that time he has to introduce whatever methods he has with the help of a completely new staff and presumably with the use of an interpreter judging by his press conference.
He did say he will be learning English as quick as he can but even Fabio Capello found it difficult when relations with his England players came into focus.
In addition, he has to prove an ability that was not too evident in his last job where his team were bottom of the league when he was sacked.
It would appear from what he has said himself that once he was sacked he had the impression there would be a job going at St Mary’s, otherwise why else would he admit he has been researching the team for the past weeks?
Also in that short time whilst he is taking English lessons there will be the relationships to be built up between first team players, particularly the experienced and hardened pros that owe Nigel Adkins so much.
Don’t forget he was the man that guided all of them into the top flight where virtually none of them had been before.
As in many manager and player relationships they may not have always have seen eye to eye.
There has not been a manager yet born who was popular with every player.
I developed a saying many years ago that you don’t have to be popular, especially when there are more players than the 11 you pick from, so that comes second to respect.
Just 16 games to learn English and gain respect in the club is hard.
It’s not like any other job where you are working 9-5 and have overtime as well if necessary.
With so many games in a short time the training sessions at this time of the season become fewer anyway.
No doubt there will be attempts to do bonding sessions, either at home or away, but, while that might look the answer on paper, I know from my own experience it often isn’t that easy.
While a player might appear to be happy to go away for a few days, even in the sunshine, it doesn’t always go down too well at home.
Most wives and families accept things like this happen, particularly pre-season, but the fact there is an emergency at the club doesn’t make the players’ life any easier with school runs and family time etc.
To get the best out of players they have to be relaxed and happy away from the club as well as in the club.
I do think – with my League Manager’s Association vice-president’s hat on – too many managers are losing their jobs much quicker now than the old days.
Admittedly the rewards are now higher and undoubtedly the contracts will be settled – not always easily but, with the help of the LMA backing, financially the manager sooner or later gets paid up.
The task then of course is to find another job and, whilst we can all say Nigel could walk into most jobs at Championship level if not Premier League, they don’t come up as often the higher up you go and it means yet another upheaval for the family.
After having a taste of the Premier League, the frustration of not being able to complete a full season will hurt.
On behalf of most of the supporters, particularly those of the loyal fringe, I will endeavour to pass on everybody’s best wishes and thanks for what he achieved whilst he was here.
I can only hope that the club holds its Premier League position because I think the chairman might now find another name will be called out during games – and unless every game is successful with three points it might not be a nice one.
For once I think the burden of expectancy of keeping the club at the highest level will not be on the shoulders of the manager but the man who appointed him.
Comments(169)
aldermoorboy
says...
11:22am Sat 19 Jan 13
Drunken Proletariat
says...
11:24am Sat 19 Jan 13
three halves wrote:You'll be back, Southampon FC is a calling not a choice.
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
Drunken Proletariat
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11:25am Sat 19 Jan 13
Drunken Proletariat wrote:Southampton FC feckin iPad sorry.
three halves wrote:You'll be back, Southampon FC is a calling not a choice.
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
mbetts
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11:29am Sat 19 Jan 13
insane saint
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11:30am Sat 19 Jan 13
three halves wrote:r u avin a laff
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
Winchester Saint
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11:32am Sat 19 Jan 13
Good luck at Blackpool, Nigel.
Baddesley Bill
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11:35am Sat 19 Jan 13
It's up to Cortese to make his gamble pay...and I will do all I can as a SFC fan to make it happen.
SFC-1982
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11:38am Sat 19 Jan 13
NA had come as far as he could with the club (nearly the worst start to a premiership season of all time).
Sure he has done a lot for saints, but we need to be progressive and i think this is a progressive move.
This guy is highly respected in Spain and will bring a level of Premiership to the club.
Fans need to do some research, get behind him and stop being so negative.
Our fans are so short sighted at times
SaintMax
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11:41am Sat 19 Jan 13
insane saint wrote:You will come back.
three halves wrote:r u avin a laff
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
TOGETHER AS ONE!!! RED ARRMY..!
Ooh, a little red army came over me all of a sudden..
hedge end bob
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11:46am Sat 19 Jan 13
three halves wrote:I now how you feel, to attend Monday nights game will feel as if my hand is on the handle of the knife sticking out of NIGEL'S back.
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
My father always use to say to me , to win any aurgument you have to be there in person. You will win nothing by staying away. You can go and shout abuse at the Chairman if things dot go to plan. Might make you feel better, but i dont suppose the little runt will take any notice. Keep it up long enough and the family might take note. Just imagine what it would be like if he ever do gain ownership of the club. THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TOO TEAR UP YOUR TICKET.
OSPREYSAINT
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11:49am Sat 19 Jan 13
three halves wrote:I can see the irony in that, OK for the short term, what are going to do after February? Follow Nigel in his next quest would be a good one.
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
OSPREYSAINT
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11:55am Sat 19 Jan 13
Winchester Saint wrote:Geography not your strong point! Perhaps he is going to Sunderland or Newcastle?
Blackpool paper just reported that Adkins is on the way to the north-eastern club to join as their new manager. He'll likely to accept the new job.
Good luck at Blackpool, Nigel.
three halves
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11:56am Sat 19 Jan 13
SaintMax wrote:The way this business has been conducted disgusts me and im more angry now than yesterday.
insane saint wrote:You will come back.
three halves wrote:r u avin a laff
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
TOGETHER AS ONE!!! RED ARRMY..!
Ooh, a little red army came over me all of a sudden..
Even the more critical of NA like myself have been won over by him over the last ten or so games so knowing what was going on behind his back has done it for me.
I know fans will all have different opinions but to blindly follow the club whatever happens is not for me.
brabbs99
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11:56am Sat 19 Jan 13
Sally Hamilton Original
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11:58am Sat 19 Jan 13
/sport/0/football/21
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Really good article and I believe we should just get on with it , it's now a new era!
The funny thing is that the Echo seems to have missed we have now signed a CB amongst all this!
Sally Hamilton Original
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11:59am Sat 19 Jan 13
three halves wrote:Get over it FFS NA is not coming back so move on and get behind the team!
SaintMax wrote:The way this business has been conducted disgusts me and im more angry now than yesterday.
insane saint wrote:You will come back.
three halves wrote:r u avin a laff
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
TOGETHER AS ONE!!! RED ARRMY..!
Ooh, a little red army came over me all of a sudden..
Even the more critical of NA like myself have been won over by him over the last ten or so games so knowing what was going on behind his back has done it for me.
I know fans will all have different opinions but to blindly follow the club whatever happens is not for me.
thomasupton
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12:00pm Sat 19 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT
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12:00pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Drunken Proletariat wrote:I don't think it is your iPad, it is this site, I have taken to watching as I type these days and letters that you type in, vanish after you have typed them in, I suspect it is down the mass of cookies and adverts that swamp the site that are something to do with it, but not being a techy sort I can't explain it.
Drunken Proletariat wrote:Southampton FC feckin iPad sorry.
three halves wrote:You'll be back, Southampon FC is a calling not a choice.
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
joenice1
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12:02pm Sat 19 Jan 13
But I will get 100% behind the team.
COYS
PS. Good Luck Nigel.
OSPREYSAINT
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12:03pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:Well, not for a little while anyway, however, if we get relegated, we may need a good gaffer to get us back up again! They said the Titanic was unsinkable, what do they know?
three halves wrote:Get over it FFS NA is not coming back so move on and get behind the team!
SaintMax wrote:The way this business has been conducted disgusts me and im more angry now than yesterday.
insane saint wrote:You will come back.
three halves wrote:r u avin a laff
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
TOGETHER AS ONE!!! RED ARRMY..!
Ooh, a little red army came over me all of a sudden..
Even the more critical of NA like myself have been won over by him over the last ten or so games so knowing what was going on behind his back has done it for me.
I know fans will all have different opinions but to blindly follow the club whatever happens is not for me.
SaintMax
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12:03pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:Can I have your ticket then to sell on? Someone will want it if you don't.
three halves wrote:Get over it FFS NA is not coming back so move on and get behind the team!
SaintMax wrote:The way this business has been conducted disgusts me and im more angry now than yesterday.
insane saint wrote:You will come back.
three halves wrote:r u avin a laff
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
TOGETHER AS ONE!!! RED ARRMY..!
Ooh, a little red army came over me all of a sudden..
Even the more critical of NA like myself have been won over by him over the last ten or so games so knowing what was going on behind his back has done it for me.
I know fans will all have different opinions but to blindly follow the club whatever happens is not for me.
montecristosaint
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12:04pm Sat 19 Jan 13
SFC-1982 wrote:you are spot on. it just goes to show how little is known about european football when Lawrie mac actually says the new guy had achieved nothing in football. He built a great team at Espanhol a club without financial resources promoting more than 20 into the first team and then was forced to sell the lot because of financial pressure,. He was rated to be the next Real madrid manager at one stage. This guy is the real MCKoy. Cortese would never do anything to hurt the club this has been done for the best. You cannot get top european players to coms to us unless their coaches are known and respected and Adkins sadly was an unkown quantity outside of these shores. You can bet that this was the main reason for his departure as well as doubtful decisions at times durig games. Saints mean to be a top four club and this unhappy event proves it.
Typically written by an out of touch historian.
NA had come as far as he could with the club (nearly the worst start to a premiership season of all time).
Sure he has done a lot for saints, but we need to be progressive and i think this is a progressive move.
This guy is highly respected in Spain and will bring a level of Premiership to the club.
Fans need to do some research, get behind him and stop being so negative.
Our fans are so short sighted at times
OSPREYSAINT
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12:05pm Sat 19 Jan 13
thomasupton wrote:Yes, I thought you were a not606.com man, good coverage of it on there. Just proves that the man is a diamond geezer!
Osprey did you see on tv this morning the note Adkins left his players, just scrawled quickly on a piece of paper thanking them and saying carry on the good work and a smiley face at the bottom. Sad way to go. :-(
OSPREYSAINT
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12:08pm Sat 19 Jan 13
brabbs99 wrote:Amusing but disrespectful, and don't shout.
WELL SAID LAWRIE MAC ( MR SOUTHAMPTON), CORTESE( MR RINSE THE FANS)
legod7
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12:09pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Kamawoop
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12:14pm Sat 19 Jan 13
t's red and very thin white striped army!
Wessex Warrior
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12:15pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Inexperience over experience.
Failure over success.
An Argie over an Englishman. Doesn't even speak English, FFS.
What a c**t this Cortese is.
Although Matt Le Tiss doesn't go this far, Paul Merson does. Do hope you get relegated.
Sally Hamilton Original
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12:17pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Hamitus Prime
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12:22pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Sally Hamilton Original
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12:26pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Hamitus Prime wrote:Finally someone talking sense! Too many whinging fans with short memories who probably slated Adkins when he was appointed after Pardew. The same will happen again but I believe NC knows what he is doing!
Get over yourselves, it a cut throat business and the reality is most of the commenters here would be calling for Nigel's head if we lost a couple. Btw didn't Lawrie Mac sod of to Sunderland. He and Le Tiss are yesterday men with a grudge. Let the moaning begin lol.
justaSaintsfan
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12:34pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Block 34
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12:38pm Sat 19 Jan 13
I will turn up... for the rest of this season. After that I'll see where it goes, but right now I don't feel its the same club and I'm looking for alternatives.
SFC-1982
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12:42pm Sat 19 Jan 13
montecristosaint wrote:My biggest fear is the reaction on Monday to the news.
SFC-1982 wrote:you are spot on. it just goes to show how little is known about european football when Lawrie mac actually says the new guy had achieved nothing in football. He built a great team at Espanhol a club without financial resources promoting more than 20 into the first team and then was forced to sell the lot because of financial pressure,. He was rated to be the next Real madrid manager at one stage. This guy is the real MCKoy. Cortese would never do anything to hurt the club this has been done for the best. You cannot get top european players to coms to us unless their coaches are known and respected and Adkins sadly was an unkown quantity outside of these shores. You can bet that this was the main reason for his departure as well as doubtful decisions at times durig games. Saints mean to be a top four club and this unhappy event proves it.
Typically written by an out of touch historian.
NA had come as far as he could with the club (nearly the worst start to a premiership season of all time).
Sure he has done a lot for saints, but we need to be progressive and i think this is a progressive move.
This guy is highly respected in Spain and will bring a level of Premiership to the club.
Fans need to do some research, get behind him and stop being so negative.
Our fans are so short sighted at times
If any 'fans' protests at the next home game or boo clearly do not have a clue about the long term aspirations of the team they support.
Sally Hamilton Original
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12:47pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Block 34 wrote:Then you can't be a true fan if you are fickle enough to change clubs.... Jeez
Season tkt holders cant really boycott matches can they - and I've already bought 2 extra tkts for Monday at £39 each!
I will turn up... for the rest of this season. After that I'll see where it goes, but right now I don't feel its the same club and I'm looking for alternatives.
OSPREYSAINT
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12:47pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Block 34 wrote:I fully understand how you feel, let us hope that fate deals us some better cards and we can move on and once more enjoy success with Southampton FC, brace yourselves for a real tough time, if you are faint hearted, now is the time to bail out.
Season tkt holders cant really boycott matches can they - and I've already bought 2 extra tkts for Monday at £39 each!
I will turn up... for the rest of this season. After that I'll see where it goes, but right now I don't feel its the same club and I'm looking for alternatives.
OSPREYSAINT
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12:49pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Wessex Warrior wrote:Again judgemental before the facts are there, anyone with a dodgy hairdo like MLT is sporting today on SSN is a bit hypocritical about what he thinks is a joke!
Totally disrespectful to a decent guy.
Inexperience over experience.
Failure over success.
An Argie over an Englishman. Doesn't even speak English, FFS.
What a c**t this Cortese is.
Although Matt Le Tiss doesn't go this far, Paul Merson does. Do hope you get relegated.
Northam Block 40
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12:50pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Clemster
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12:52pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Would hate to think where we would be without NC and have to trust that he has made this decision for better of the club ambitions. Can not deny he is ambitious and that can only be for the club. I am gutted NA has gone, good man, good manager, but it's been done and I will be right behind new manager.
NC knows what he is doing I believe and whatever he does I will be grateful for what he has given and done for the club since those dark days in League One
slugger
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12:55pm Sat 19 Jan 13
SPIKEISLANDTRADER
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12:56pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Good luck Nigel you done us proud
Thornhill Saint
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1:01pm Sat 19 Jan 13
It is not uncritical but at least it is a lot more balanced, and insightful than most of the Adkins/Cortese related articles published in there today.
Confucious
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1:01pm Sat 19 Jan 13
saintmac
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1:01pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Sorry to see NA go but believe he had taken us as far as he could.
NC is a business man and in todays
world there is no room for sentiment.
However,his PR skills are non existent
at times and I think now he should give one of his rare interviews to explain what is happening.
We must not become like Chelsea fans
and turn on the Club and then get relegated.This is NOT what NA would have wanted and those "fans" are
being very short sighted.
Now to the future.From what we read
MP is well respected and I have no doubt that NC canvassed a lot of opinionsbefore making this appointment.After all we know he is a shrewd business man and he has not
let us down in anyway.
Yes, this new appointment has been in the making for some time but I am certain MP has been watching us and
has a fair idea of our strengths and
weaknesses.My concern is that with
the snow he is unable to train outside
and put his ideas into practice.
So,all you doubters, I can understand
you are upset but if you are TRUE
FANS then you will continue to give
100% support to the team and
remember what Nigel said about support.
three halves
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1:01pm Sat 19 Jan 13
SaintMax wrote:My seat will remain empty this season in protest and i wont be back,i have only missed a couple of home games in ten years so am not some some glory hunter like a lot of the plastics who attend games now.
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:Can I have your ticket then to sell on? Someone will want it if you don't.
three halves wrote:Get over it FFS NA is not coming back so move on and get behind the team!
SaintMax wrote:The way this business has been conducted disgusts me and im more angry now than yesterday.
insane saint wrote:You will come back.
three halves wrote:r u avin a laff
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
TOGETHER AS ONE!!! RED ARRMY..!
Ooh, a little red army came over me all of a sudden..
Even the more critical of NA like myself have been won over by him over the last ten or so games so knowing what was going on behind his back has done it for me.
I know fans will all have different opinions but to blindly follow the club whatever happens is not for me.
Football fans feel like they have to support their team out of misguided loyalty and put up with everything thrown at them.
Lockssmart
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1:04pm Sat 19 Jan 13
SaintMark
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1:09pm Sat 19 Jan 13
three halves wrote:Of course your a Saints fan.. Skunt!
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
Thornhill Saint
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1:10pm Sat 19 Jan 13
http://www.southampt
on.vitalfootball.co.
uk/article.asp?a=306
026
SaintMark
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1:11pm Sat 19 Jan 13
slugger wrote:What he said!
Laurie did indeed pee off to Sunderland when the opportunity arose , not much loyalty there . I suggest that none of us know's the timescale that Nigel was given when he came . Good luck Nigel and thanks a million ............. Even better luck Maurico you have this fans backing 100 % as does Nicola ........ COYR !!!
SaintMark
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1:12pm Sat 19 Jan 13
leosaint
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1:14pm Sat 19 Jan 13
for his method in replacing NA as just an after thought to his new mans appointment without even a mention of the hard working loyal duo of MC and DW. Please Mr.C IF YOU HAVE AN OUNCE OF DECENCY IN YOU THANK NA AND HIS TEAM IN THE PROPER MANNER THEY DESERVE FOR WHAT THEY ACHIEVED AT SOUTHAMPTON.I will not be there on Monday but I will as always be listening to the match on Saints player in Madeira and hope I have the opportunity to join the home crowd to one last rendition of there is only one NA before we get down to the serious business of supporting our SAINTS:
dadofmy3sons
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1:17pm Sat 19 Jan 13
montecristosaint wrote:he has not signed any top players.
SFC-1982 wrote:you are spot on. it just goes to show how little is known about european football when Lawrie mac actually says the new guy had achieved nothing in football. He built a great team at Espanhol a club without financial resources promoting more than 20 into the first team and then was forced to sell the lot because of financial pressure,. He was rated to be the next Real madrid manager at one stage. This guy is the real MCKoy. Cortese would never do anything to hurt the club this has been done for the best. You cannot get top european players to coms to us unless their coaches are known and respected and Adkins sadly was an unkown quantity outside of these shores. You can bet that this was the main reason for his departure as well as doubtful decisions at times durig games. Saints mean to be a top four club and this unhappy event proves it.
Typically written by an out of touch historian.
NA had come as far as he could with the club (nearly the worst start to a premiership season of all time).
Sure he has done a lot for saints, but we need to be progressive and i think this is a progressive move.
This guy is highly respected in Spain and will bring a level of Premiership to the club.
Fans need to do some research, get behind him and stop being so negative.
Our fans are so short sighted at times
he promoted from within his youth system, same as we do!
He has not worked with experienced international players for very long as he dropped and sold most of the team he played with.
I am still going to to Monday's game and I will be supporting my team, The Saints.
BUT I am not hppy with the sacking of Nigel, same as I wasn't happy with the sacking of Pardew!
dansker
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1:17pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Kamawoop
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1:20pm Sat 19 Jan 13
However, I've said this before I I'll say it again. I DON'T LIKE NICOLA CORTESE. EFFING IDIOT.
Kamawoop
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1:21pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Still following the team rather than the individuals (even realise the referenced man has been good for the club).
However, I've said this before and I'll say it again:
I DON'T LIKE NICOLA CORTESE. EFFING IDIOT.
Baddesley Bill
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1:22pm Sat 19 Jan 13
three halves wrote:Good...you've no reason to bother posting here then have you... bye :O)
SaintMax wrote:My seat will remain empty this season in protest and i wont be back,i have only missed a couple of home games in ten years so am not some some glory hunter like a lot of the plastics who attend games now.
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:Can I have your ticket then to sell on? Someone will want it if you don't.
three halves wrote:Get over it FFS NA is not coming back so move on and get behind the team!
SaintMax wrote:The way this business has been conducted disgusts me and im more angry now than yesterday.
insane saint wrote:You will come back.
three halves wrote:r u avin a laff
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
TOGETHER AS ONE!!! RED ARRMY..!
Ooh, a little red army came over me all of a sudden..
Even the more critical of NA like myself have been won over by him over the last ten or so games so knowing what was going on behind his back has done it for me.
I know fans will all have different opinions but to blindly follow the club whatever happens is not for me.
Football fans feel like they have to support their team out of misguided loyalty and put up with everything thrown at them.
Kamawoop
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1:24pm Sat 19 Jan 13
All you hear is true. Cortese just is a total ****.
Eff off (but leave your money).
NetleyNed
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1:29pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Winchester Saint wrote:Blackpool is in the North West!!
Blackpool paper just reported that Adkins is on the way to the north-eastern club to join as their new manager. He'll likely to accept the new job.
Good luck at Blackpool, Nigel.
Kamawoop
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1:32pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Kamawoop
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1:35pm Sat 19 Jan 13
'Say we want Nigel Adkins, Say We want nigel Adkins...'
CB FRY LIVES
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1:39pm Sat 19 Jan 13
three halves wrote:even milan mandaric seems a mr nice guy compared to that nasty mr cortese.
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
St Forlife
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1:42pm Sat 19 Jan 13
The fear was starting to grow with Cortese that he had a very good manager under him - but there is something non-football going on here!! The longer he left it the higher up the table Saints would be - Cortese didn't want that.
Cortese is about himself - his ego in achieving something - Southampton FC is just a product. he will think he's doing it for the club but he is doing it for himself.
I like one or two others on here are toiling with the decision to go on Monday. Being there makes me feel party to everything and the force behind the blade in his back. But I will always be a Saint - what a conundrum - I have a 40 mile each way trip to each match - kind hope the snow keeps falling and makes the decision for me!!
romsey saint
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1:54pm Sat 19 Jan 13
1, LM left Saints to go to Sunderland when the 'real' football people running us at the time wouldnt bow down to his demands.
2, LM quotes being in football from all divisions and international.... but what did he achieve?
3, NA got us promoted with what was essentially AP's team
4, Without NC there would be know team to support.
5, So far everything NC has done for our club has been with its best interests at heart.
Romsey Saint
slugger
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1:56pm Sat 19 Jan 13
romsey saint wrote:Excactamundo !
Some of you ave short memories,
1, LM left Saints to go to Sunderland when the 'real' football people running us at the time wouldnt bow down to his demands.
2, LM quotes being in football from all divisions and international.... but what did he achieve?
3, NA got us promoted with what was essentially AP's team
4, Without NC there would be know team to support.
5, So far everything NC has done for our club has been with its best interests at heart.
Romsey Saint
mbetts
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2:01pm Sat 19 Jan 13
three halves wrote:Oh yeah coz that's a stable alternative get a season ticket on a match by match basis
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
SFCOLDBOY
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2:16pm Sat 19 Jan 13
St Forlife wrote:Go!
Sleeping on this it seems to me that the timing was all about the fear of Nigel becoming a success. He clearly had given the nod to the new guy (can't even remember his namio without going back to look it up) because he has bee 'studying' the players for a matter of weeks - so it has been in the bag behind Nigel's back.
The fear was starting to grow with Cortese that he had a very good manager under him - but there is something non-football going on here!! The longer he left it the higher up the table Saints would be - Cortese didn't want that.
Cortese is about himself - his ego in achieving something - Southampton FC is just a product. he will think he's doing it for the club but he is doing it for himself.
I like one or two others on here are toiling with the decision to go on Monday. Being there makes me feel party to everything and the force behind the blade in his back. But I will always be a Saint - what a conundrum - I have a 40 mile each way trip to each match - kind hope the snow keeps falling and makes the decision for me!!
Support our team.
Thats what we do,lets show our appreciation of Nigel,show our discust at the way he was deposed, then move on.
The players need our possitivity.
Did you see that?
There's little bit of Nigel left in all of us.
COYS
El Santo
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2:19pm Sat 19 Jan 13
three halves wrote:I agree. Following a club is not about winning it's about feeling a connection with the team, with the players, the manager, the chairman... it is important to know that certain things are respected and sacking NA in this way shows that Cortese doesn't give 2 sh1ts about the fans and that he is recklessly gambling our future as a club.
SaintMax wrote:The way this business has been conducted disgusts me and im more angry now than yesterday.
insane saint wrote:You will come back.
three halves wrote:r u avin a laff
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
TOGETHER AS ONE!!! RED ARRMY..!
Ooh, a little red army came over me all of a sudden..
Even the more critical of NA like myself have been won over by him over the last ten or so games so knowing what was going on behind his back has done it for me.
I know fans will all have different opinions but to blindly follow the club whatever happens is not for me.
The gamble may work, yes, but the reputation of out club will forever be damaged.
buster gutt
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2:21pm Sat 19 Jan 13
three halves wrote:Oh come on!!!! Throw your toys out of the pram cos "I can't get my own way"
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
What is done is done move on for goodness sake" We are Saints supporters aren't we.Just get on.It may be a good decision.Who knows.We are all cut up about what has happened to Nigel but its not a bereavement life goes on...
Tizz
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2:22pm Sat 19 Jan 13
“The best in class both on and off the field of play.”
Sadly Friday taught us the "Southampton Way" is something else, something devoid of class.
Tizz
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2:25pm Sat 19 Jan 13
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
El Santo
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2:29pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Tizz wrote:Not only that, Pardew has shown he is a fantastic manager in New Castle.
Nicola Cortese gets everything right does he?
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
In any case, sacking someone like that, after winning back to back promotions, after an away victory and a draw in Stamford Bridge... it's not only crazy it's just plain disgusting and shows you quality as a man.
SaintMark
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2:31pm Sat 19 Jan 13
slugger wrote:Yep.
romsey saint wrote:Excactamundo !
Some of you ave short memories,
1, LM left Saints to go to Sunderland when the 'real' football people running us at the time wouldnt bow down to his demands.
2, LM quotes being in football from all divisions and international.... but what did he achieve?
3, NA got us promoted with what was essentially AP's team
4, Without NC there would be know team to support.
5, So far everything NC has done for our club has been with its best interests at heart.
Romsey Saint
SaintMark
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2:36pm Sat 19 Jan 13
El Santo wrote:New Castle?
Tizz wrote:Not only that, Pardew has shown he is a fantastic manager in New Castle.
Nicola Cortese gets everything right does he?
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
In any case, sacking someone like that, after winning back to back promotions, after an away victory and a draw in Stamford Bridge... it's not only crazy it's just plain disgusting and shows you quality as a man.
Pardew is doing a great job?
three halves
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2:38pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill wrote:Im putting my point on here which is valid, if you are happy to follow the club with unwaverable loyalty no matter what you have to put up with then good for you and most fans will continue to do so but a lot of people will not agree with you.
three halves wrote:Good...you've no reason to bother posting here then have you... bye :O)
SaintMax wrote:My seat will remain empty this season in protest and i wont be back,i have only missed a couple of home games in ten years so am not some some glory hunter like a lot of the plastics who attend games now.
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:Can I have your ticket then to sell on? Someone will want it if you don't.
three halves wrote:Get over it FFS NA is not coming back so move on and get behind the team!
SaintMax wrote:The way this business has been conducted disgusts me and im more angry now than yesterday.
insane saint wrote:You will come back.
three halves wrote:r u avin a laff
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
TOGETHER AS ONE!!! RED ARRMY..!
Ooh, a little red army came over me all of a sudden..
Even the more critical of NA like myself have been won over by him over the last ten or so games so knowing what was going on behind his back has done it for me.
I know fans will all have different opinions but to blindly follow the club whatever happens is not for me.
Football fans feel like they have to support their team out of misguided loyalty and put up with everything thrown at them.
Tizz
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2:40pm Sat 19 Jan 13
1. Pochettino's lack of English. Anyone's who's worked overseas and knows anything about language interpretation will know what I'm talking about.
Out of interest, does anyone know of any non-English speaking manager (excluding Kenny Dalglish) who's been successful in England?
2. Player unrest. Adkins loyalists, who are probably the bulk of the senior professionals, feeling disgruntled by their gaffer's dismissal, may struggle to adapt to the new man. Pochettino will have to try to overcome this likely discontent quickly.
saintkenny
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2:44pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Winchester Saint wrote:lancs in the north east .you need a compass
Blackpool paper just reported that Adkins is on the way to the north-eastern club to join as their new manager. He'll likely to accept the new job.
Good luck at Blackpool, Nigel.
slugger
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2:50pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Tizz wrote:Another way of looking at it is this ........ Nicola made a mistake with Pardew (in your opinion) ...... He had the balls to correct the alledged mistake pretty smartish .
Nicola Cortese gets everything right does he?
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
Linesman
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2:51pm Sat 19 Jan 13
SFC-1982 wrote:"This guy is highly respected in Spain."
Typically written by an out of touch historian.
NA had come as far as he could with the club (nearly the worst start to a premiership season of all time).
Sure he has done a lot for saints, but we need to be progressive and i think this is a progressive move.
This guy is highly respected in Spain and will bring a level of Premiership to the club.
Fans need to do some research, get behind him and stop being so negative.
Our fans are so short sighted at times
He was respected as a PLAYER, but has precious little experience as a MANAGER, and took Espanyol to the bottom of the league, which is why he was sacked.
Add to that, he does not speak English.
Cortese should be taking a senility test.
Proud from LIVERPOOL
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3:07pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Winchester Saint wrote:Your geographical knowledge is very poor, Blackpool is in the north-west.
Blackpool paper just reported that Adkins is on the way to the north-eastern club to join as their new manager. He'll likely to accept the new job.
Good luck at Blackpool, Nigel.
warrens 76
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3:10pm Sat 19 Jan 13
...a few weeks ago we looked dead and buried moreover a lot of difficult fixtures to come..so NC had to have a plan ready..
Lest we forget even for all our not losing we are not winning when we have the chance either...
NIgel is a decent human being indeed a gem in this day and age, however progress needs to be made, standing still (drawing) is still slowly going backwards.....
...NC is damned if he does and damned if he does'nt address this issue.
We should all leave well alone and suport the Saints...period.
SFC-1982
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3:16pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Linesman wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk
SFC-1982 wrote:"This guy is highly respected in Spain."
Typically written by an out of touch historian.
NA had come as far as he could with the club (nearly the worst start to a premiership season of all time).
Sure he has done a lot for saints, but we need to be progressive and i think this is a progressive move.
This guy is highly respected in Spain and will bring a level of Premiership to the club.
Fans need to do some research, get behind him and stop being so negative.
Our fans are so short sighted at times
He was respected as a PLAYER, but has precious little experience as a MANAGER, and took Espanyol to the bottom of the league, which is why he was sacked.
Add to that, he does not speak English.
Cortese should be taking a senility test.
/sport/0/football/21
084201
Have a read and then tell me he has no experience.
All the articles i have read about him are very positive.
romsey saint
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3:20pm Sat 19 Jan 13
slugger wrote:exactly my point slugger, he has always done what he thinks is right for the club. The most important thing we must remember is if he goes the money goes to
Tizz wrote:Another way of looking at it is this ........ Nicola made a mistake with Pardew (in your opinion) ...... He had the balls to correct the alledged mistake pretty smartish .
Nicola Cortese gets everything right does he?
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
Tizz
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3:20pm Sat 19 Jan 13
slugger wrote:Not in my opinion - in Cortese's opinion.
Tizz wrote:Another way of looking at it is this ........ Nicola made a mistake with Pardew (in your opinion) ...... He had the balls to correct the alledged mistake pretty smartish .
Nicola Cortese gets everything right does he?
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
If you fire someone that's recognition that hiring them - in hindsight - was a mistake.
My point is - to those who argue Cortese doesn't make mistakes and act as if he's infallible - this is an example of a "mistake" he's made.
Let's just hope what happened yesterday wasn't a "mistake". We'll know soon enough.
dadofmy3sons
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3:26pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Most of the abuse has been from amongst our own WUMs and idiots!
Of course some of the more vitriolic fools have continued with their stupidity, but can't blame them with some of the comments some Saints have put on their site.
Kamawoop
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3:27pm Sat 19 Jan 13
sfc-4eva-
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3:28pm Sat 19 Jan 13
three halves wrote:I'm serious with this comment three halves.
SaintMax wrote:My seat will remain empty this season in protest and i wont be back,i have only missed a couple of home games in ten years so am not some some glory hunter like a lot of the plastics who attend games now.
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:Can I have your ticket then to sell on? Someone will want it if you don't.
three halves wrote:Get over it FFS NA is not coming back so move on and get behind the team!
SaintMax wrote:The way this business has been conducted disgusts me and im more angry now than yesterday.
insane saint wrote:You will come back.
three halves wrote:r u avin a laff
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
TOGETHER AS ONE!!! RED ARRMY..!
Ooh, a little red army came over me all of a sudden..
Even the more critical of NA like myself have been won over by him over the last ten or so games so knowing what was going on behind his back has done it for me.
I know fans will all have different opinions but to blindly follow the club whatever happens is not for me.
Football fans feel like they have to support their team out of misguided loyalty and put up with everything thrown at them.
If you are serious too about not wanting your season ticket then please let me know how much you want for the rest of the season. Thanks
st1halo
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3:30pm Sat 19 Jan 13
El Santo wrote:Yeah? It would have been better to sack him after a string of bad results or relgation ensuring that his cv looks dire!
Tizz wrote:Not only that, Pardew has shown he is a fantastic manager in New Castle.
Nicola Cortese gets everything right does he?
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
In any case, sacking someone like that, after winning back to back promotions, after an away victory and a draw in Stamford Bridge... it's not only crazy it's just plain disgusting and shows you quality as a man.
This was the best time for the parting of the ways. Nigel walks away with his reputation, respect and prestige all intact. Unlike Mark Hughes!
STID
Bermondsey boy
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3:30pm Sat 19 Jan 13
slugger wrote:Somewhat surprised at you slugger. You have been one of the voices of reason over Nigel's difficult days, and I thought you would be disgusted at cortese's treatment of a very good manager, and decent human being. I really wouldn't want you in my corner if things got tough. He has stabbed the man who got us into the premiership in the back, and if that is ok with you, I am disappointed.
Laurie did indeed pee off to Sunderland when the opportunity arose , not much loyalty there . I suggest that none of us know's the timescale that Nigel was given when he came . Good luck Nigel and thanks a million ............. Even better luck Maurico you have this fans backing 100 % as does Nicola ........ COYR !!!
jamcam
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3:32pm Sat 19 Jan 13
warrens 76 wrote:NC should be dammed and will be if this goes t**s up,we may have looked dead and buried but we were still improving and I believe would have stayed up, Big Big gamble in my eyes.
terrible PR terrible disloyalty is the widespread opinion....yet what was the Chairman suppossed to do?
...a few weeks ago we looked dead and buried moreover a lot of difficult fixtures to come..so NC had to have a plan ready..
Lest we forget even for all our not losing we are not winning when we have the chance either...
NIgel is a decent human being indeed a gem in this day and age, however progress needs to be made, standing still (drawing) is still slowly going backwards.....
...NC is damned if he does and damned if he does'nt address this issue.
We should all leave well alone and suport the Saints...period.
st1halo
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3:36pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Without NC there would be no SFC
STID
arm chair fan
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3:43pm Sat 19 Jan 13
st1halo
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3:50pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Tizz wrote:"Pardewgate" was for unexpected reasons though, not for his results with the team but other matters by all accounts. So couldn't be foreseen.
slugger wrote:Not in my opinion - in Cortese's opinion.
Tizz wrote:Another way of looking at it is this ........ Nicola made a mistake with Pardew (in your opinion) ...... He had the balls to correct the alledged mistake pretty smartish .
Nicola Cortese gets everything right does he?
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
If you fire someone that's recognition that hiring them - in hindsight - was a mistake.
My point is - to those who argue Cortese doesn't make mistakes and act as if he's infallible - this is an example of a "mistake" he's made.
Let's just hope what happened yesterday wasn't a "mistake". We'll know soon enough.
At the end of the day the proof is in the pudding! And we are Premier League! Thanks to NC and his decision making.
STID
arm chair fan
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3:51pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Strasbourg Saint
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3:54pm Sat 19 Jan 13
'Sky Sports understands that Newcastle United have agreed a fee with Montpellier for star defender Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa. The 23-year-old French international is now set to fly into England next week for talks with the club's management to finalise a deal.'
Pity, let's hope the Don and MP can cut him off at Heathrow and point him south. He'd be another great addition to our growing centre-back division.
El Santo
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3:55pm Sat 19 Jan 13
SaintMark wrote:Well, ahem, last year...
El Santo wrote:New Castle?
Tizz wrote:Not only that, Pardew has shown he is a fantastic manager in New Castle.
Nicola Cortese gets everything right does he?
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
In any case, sacking someone like that, after winning back to back promotions, after an away victory and a draw in Stamford Bridge... it's not only crazy it's just plain disgusting and shows you quality as a man.
Pardew is doing a great job?
southampton999
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3:57pm Sat 19 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Never Eat Shredded Wheat
Winchester Saint wrote:Geography not your strong point! Perhaps he is going to Sunderland or Newcastle?
Blackpool paper just reported that Adkins is on the way to the north-eastern club to join as their new manager. He'll likely to accept the new job.
Good luck at Blackpool, Nigel.
Naughty Elephants Squirt Water
warrens 76
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4:08pm Sat 19 Jan 13
..However for us real fans we have been introduced to a strange thing called 'integrity'...
..when you look at the crooks who actually run the very top of football never mind ruthless chairman look at Blatter et al you can then see how alien it is..
...and we all liked it, that 'as one' feeling against Coventry was something I have never experianced before and I have been going since 1971..
So Cortese has possibly done the right thing commercially and the worst thing morally....for big corporates who don't give a flying fück about their customers it is one thing.....
...however for a club to throw this feeling away is very dangerous and makes any future success feel 'tainted' as it was at the expense of something more important..
Strasbourg Saint
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4:18pm Sat 19 Jan 13
And that means NEVER; even during any future glory days (when we're riding high, on a cup run, in Europe etc.). Then there will be room for genuine fans who support their team rather than aiming their support or bile at individuals - past or present.
The club is bigger than any one person, that includes Lawrie Mac, NC, NA, Le Tiss, Ted Bates, Bobby Stokes, and every single fan; Yes, even Nick Illingworth. :)
three halves
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4:20pm Sat 19 Jan 13
sfc-4eva- wrote:It is about integrity not money so my seat will remain empty for the rest of the season.
three halves wrote:I'm serious with this comment three halves.
SaintMax wrote:My seat will remain empty this season in protest and i wont be back,i have only missed a couple of home games in ten years so am not some some glory hunter like a lot of the plastics who attend games now.
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:Can I have your ticket then to sell on? Someone will want it if you don't.
three halves wrote:Get over it FFS NA is not coming back so move on and get behind the team!
SaintMax wrote:The way this business has been conducted disgusts me and im more angry now than yesterday.
insane saint wrote:You will come back.
three halves wrote:r u avin a laff
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
TOGETHER AS ONE!!! RED ARRMY..!
Ooh, a little red army came over me all of a sudden..
Even the more critical of NA like myself have been won over by him over the last ten or so games so knowing what was going on behind his back has done it for me.
I know fans will all have different opinions but to blindly follow the club whatever happens is not for me.
Football fans feel like they have to support their team out of misguided loyalty and put up with everything thrown at them.
If you are serious too about not wanting your season ticket then please let me know how much you want for the rest of the season. Thanks
Home Rule for England
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4:21pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill
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4:22pm Sat 19 Jan 13
three halves wrote:Which seat is it?
sfc-4eva- wrote:It is about integrity not money so my seat will remain empty for the rest of the season.
three halves wrote:I'm serious with this comment three halves.
SaintMax wrote:My seat will remain empty this season in protest and i wont be back,i have only missed a couple of home games in ten years so am not some some glory hunter like a lot of the plastics who attend games now.
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:Can I have your ticket then to sell on? Someone will want it if you don't.
three halves wrote:Get over it FFS NA is not coming back so move on and get behind the team!
SaintMax wrote:The way this business has been conducted disgusts me and im more angry now than yesterday.
insane saint wrote:You will come back.
three halves wrote:r u avin a laff
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
TOGETHER AS ONE!!! RED ARRMY..!
Ooh, a little red army came over me all of a sudden..
Even the more critical of NA like myself have been won over by him over the last ten or so games so knowing what was going on behind his back has done it for me.
I know fans will all have different opinions but to blindly follow the club whatever happens is not for me.
Football fans feel like they have to support their team out of misguided loyalty and put up with everything thrown at them.
If you are serious too about not wanting your season ticket then please let me know how much you want for the rest of the season. Thanks
Baddesley Bill
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4:24pm Sat 19 Jan 13
arm chair fan wrote:No
allthough i do not post that often i read this site most days and a lot of the bile on here in last 36 hrs comes from loggins that i have not noticed before!!!! ie. is three haves for real ?
slugger
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4:26pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Bermondsey boy wrote:I'll always support whoever is in charge (or at least give them a chance) , I was as gutted as anyone at yesterdays news , football is a tough business and have made my decision to move on .
slugger wrote:Somewhat surprised at you slugger. You have been one of the voices of reason over Nigel's difficult days, and I thought you would be disgusted at cortese's treatment of a very good manager, and decent human being. I really wouldn't want you in my corner if things got tough. He has stabbed the man who got us into the premiership in the back, and if that is ok with you, I am disappointed.
Laurie did indeed pee off to Sunderland when the opportunity arose , not much loyalty there . I suggest that none of us know's the timescale that Nigel was given when he came . Good luck Nigel and thanks a million ............. Even better luck Maurico you have this fans backing 100 % as does Nicola ........ COYR !!!
arm chair fan
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4:28pm Sat 19 Jan 13
redsnapper
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4:44pm Sat 19 Jan 13
BUT Nigels compensation package must have benn seen, signed and delivere as there is no media chatter about him that I can find out.
He is such a good bloke that he will recover and soon be back in business.
As for todays games looks like that facker Redknapp as bought another good player, and yonks ago I said we should have bought Adam le Fondre!!!
Whatever happens lets not turn St Marys into the pit of discontent that has happened at Chelsea!!
With todays results we cannot afford to become a fractured club.
Simmo13
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4:56pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Home Rule for England wrote:I remember a Plymouth argyle fan saying that and a Bournemouth one come to that but it didn't happen and not sure it will now :0)
Prediction: Blackpool in the Premiership Saints in the Championship. Maybe not this season for Blackpool but I bet NA makes it happen if he takes over there.
ghk230473
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4:58pm Sat 19 Jan 13
romsey saint wrote:That attitude allowed jimmy saville to abuse kids all those years in the hospitals. Schwi can f11ck off and take his money with him, I for 1 want my club back.
slugger wrote:exactly my point slugger, he has always done what he thinks is right for the club. The most important thing we must remember is if he goes the money goes to
Tizz wrote:Another way of looking at it is this ........ Nicola made a mistake with Pardew (in your opinion) ...... He had the balls to correct the alledged mistake pretty smartish .
Nicola Cortese gets everything right does he?
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
A lot on here have very short memories, we had an egomaniac chairman before and look where that got us, are we really that desperate that we allow this little foreigner drag our good name and reputation into the gutter, alienate our previous hero's and generally treat every one he comes into contact with with such
contempt?
Loyalty is earnt, what kind of impression is this leaving on the youngsters coming thru the ranks? And some questioned the loyalty of chamberlain! F4ckin amazing
Baddesley Bill
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5:01pm Sat 19 Jan 13
ghk230473 wrote:Have you paid up your bet yet ghk?...some proof would be good. Cheers.
romsey saint wrote:That attitude allowed jimmy saville to abuse kids all those years in the hospitals. Schwi can f11ck off and take his money with him, I for 1 want my club back.
slugger wrote:exactly my point slugger, he has always done what he thinks is right for the club. The most important thing we must remember is if he goes the money goes to
Tizz wrote:Another way of looking at it is this ........ Nicola made a mistake with Pardew (in your opinion) ...... He had the balls to correct the alledged mistake pretty smartish .
Nicola Cortese gets everything right does he?
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
A lot on here have very short memories, we had an egomaniac chairman before and look where that got us, are we really that desperate that we allow this little foreigner drag our good name and reputation into the gutter, alienate our previous hero's and generally treat every one he comes into contact with with such
contempt?
Loyalty is earnt, what kind of impression is this leaving on the youngsters coming thru the ranks? And some questioned the loyalty of chamberlain! F4ckin amazing
ghk230473
says...
5:12pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill wrote:Have mentioned earlier, receipt will be behind bar of pub of choice. Very hollow win I feel but bets a bet, i wasn't far out and my opinion of cortese and reason to doubt him i feel has been proved right.
ghk230473 wrote:Have you paid up your bet yet ghk?...some proof would be good. Cheers.
romsey saint wrote:That attitude allowed jimmy saville to abuse kids all those years in the hospitals. Schwi can f11ck off and take his money with him, I for 1 want my club back.
slugger wrote:exactly my point slugger, he has always done what he thinks is right for the club. The most important thing we must remember is if he goes the money goes to
Tizz wrote:Another way of looking at it is this ........ Nicola made a mistake with Pardew (in your opinion) ...... He had the balls to correct the alledged mistake pretty smartish .
Nicola Cortese gets everything right does he?
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
A lot on here have very short memories, we had an egomaniac chairman before and look where that got us, are we really that desperate that we allow this little foreigner drag our good name and reputation into the gutter, alienate our previous hero's and generally treat every one he comes into contact with with such
contempt?
Loyalty is earnt, what kind of impression is this leaving on the youngsters coming thru the ranks? And some questioned the loyalty of chamberlain! F4ckin amazing
Support the club bb and I respect that but don't forget what Lowe did, schwi is the same
poshdave
says...
5:20pm Sat 19 Jan 13
..... NC was defo right about Pardew, but even if it proves not to be devastating to the club appointing Pocy, for me my support will always feel a bit tainted now while we still have NC........ of course I want us to be successful, but doing things in the right way makes you enjoy the success that much more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
....................
....
as for NA being linked to Blackpool I feel embarrassed that's he's been linked with them...........he should be well out their league..............
....and finally we have to remember it's us the supporters that own the club..........people coming in with the money are just the custodians for a while...............
.....we are the football club and people on the board and NC must remember what we think and what we care about really does matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!
three halves
says...
5:21pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill wrote:My one in the Itchen south will remain empty but im sure you will get a ticket somewhere .
three halves wrote:Which seat is it?
sfc-4eva- wrote:It is about integrity not money so my seat will remain empty for the rest of the season.
three halves wrote:I'm serious with this comment three halves.
SaintMax wrote:My seat will remain empty this season in protest and i wont be back,i have only missed a couple of home games in ten years so am not some some glory hunter like a lot of the plastics who attend games now.
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:Can I have your ticket then to sell on? Someone will want it if you don't.
three halves wrote:Get over it FFS NA is not coming back so move on and get behind the team!
SaintMax wrote:The way this business has been conducted disgusts me and im more angry now than yesterday.
insane saint wrote:You will come back.
three halves wrote:r u avin a laff
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
TOGETHER AS ONE!!! RED ARRMY..!
Ooh, a little red army came over me all of a sudden..
Even the more critical of NA like myself have been won over by him over the last ten or so games so knowing what was going on behind his back has done it for me.
I know fans will all have different opinions but to blindly follow the club whatever happens is not for me.
Football fans feel like they have to support their team out of misguided loyalty and put up with everything thrown at them.
If you are serious too about not wanting your season ticket then please let me know how much you want for the rest of the season. Thanks
jamcam
says...
5:23pm Sat 19 Jan 13
ghk230473 wrote:Quite correct my friend loyalty my A** I,m afaid NC if he carries on he will become the new Romaov less the £millions of course, a Dictator,hope all this dosent end in tears.
romsey saint wrote:That attitude allowed jimmy saville to abuse kids all those years in the hospitals. Schwi can f11ck off and take his money with him, I for 1 want my club back.
slugger wrote:exactly my point slugger, he has always done what he thinks is right for the club. The most important thing we must remember is if he goes the money goes to
Tizz wrote:Another way of looking at it is this ........ Nicola made a mistake with Pardew (in your opinion) ...... He had the balls to correct the alledged mistake pretty smartish .
Nicola Cortese gets everything right does he?
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
A lot on here have very short memories, we had an egomaniac chairman before and look where that got us, are we really that desperate that we allow this little foreigner drag our good name and reputation into the gutter, alienate our previous hero's and generally treat every one he comes into contact with with such
contempt?
Loyalty is earnt, what kind of impression is this leaving on the youngsters coming thru the ranks? And some questioned the loyalty of chamberlain! F4ckin amazing
ghk230473
says...
5:24pm Sat 19 Jan 13
poshdave wrote:Couldn't put it better. This is OUR club. Sitting back and letting this little c11nt do what ever he likes is just as bad, same as those that new saville was abusing kids but kept quiet because he was bringing money in with charity.
Can't believe how ruthless NA's sacking has been, I'm embarrassed about all of it..................
..... NC was defo right about Pardew, but even if it proves not to be devastating to the club appointing Pocy, for me my support will always feel a bit tainted now while we still have NC........ of course I want us to be successful, but doing things in the right way makes you enjoy the success that much more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
....................
....
as for NA being linked to Blackpool I feel embarrassed that's he's been linked with them...........he should be well out their league..............
....and finally we have to remember it's us the supporters that own the club..........people coming in with the money are just the custodians for a while...............
.....we are the football club and people on the board and NC must remember what we think and what we care about really does matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!
Shame on you that back him. Un f4ckin believable.
Strasbourg Saint
says...
5:33pm Sat 19 Jan 13
ghk230473 wrote:Oh no, which 'new Saville' is that! Surely there can't be two of him!
poshdave wrote:Couldn't put it better. This is OUR club. Sitting back and letting this little c11nt do what ever he likes is just as bad, same as those that new saville was abusing kids but kept quiet because he was bringing money in with charity.
Can't believe how ruthless NA's sacking has been, I'm embarrassed about all of it..................
..... NC was defo right about Pardew, but even if it proves not to be devastating to the club appointing Pocy, for me my support will always feel a bit tainted now while we still have NC........ of course I want us to be successful, but doing things in the right way makes you enjoy the success that much more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
....................
....
as for NA being linked to Blackpool I feel embarrassed that's he's been linked with them...........he should be well out their league..............
....and finally we have to remember it's us the supporters that own the club..........people coming in with the money are just the custodians for a while...............
.....we are the football club and people on the board and NC must remember what we think and what we care about really does matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!
Shame on you that back him. Un f4ckin believable.
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!!!
!
Baddesley Bill
says...
5:34pm Sat 19 Jan 13
ghk230473 wrote:Thanks. I will be having a beer in the Joshua Tree after the game on Monday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Have mentioned earlier, receipt will be behind bar of pub of choice. Very hollow win I feel but bets a bet, i wasn't far out and my opinion of cortese and reason to doubt him i feel has been proved right.
ghk230473 wrote:Have you paid up your bet yet ghk?...some proof would be good. Cheers.
romsey saint wrote:That attitude allowed jimmy saville to abuse kids all those years in the hospitals. Schwi can f11ck off and take his money with him, I for 1 want my club back.
slugger wrote:exactly my point slugger, he has always done what he thinks is right for the club. The most important thing we must remember is if he goes the money goes to
Tizz wrote:Another way of looking at it is this ........ Nicola made a mistake with Pardew (in your opinion) ...... He had the balls to correct the alledged mistake pretty smartish .
Nicola Cortese gets everything right does he?
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
A lot on here have very short memories, we had an egomaniac chairman before and look where that got us, are we really that desperate that we allow this little foreigner drag our good name and reputation into the gutter, alienate our previous hero's and generally treat every one he comes into contact with with such
contempt?
Loyalty is earnt, what kind of impression is this leaving on the youngsters coming thru the ranks? And some questioned the loyalty of chamberlain! F4ckin amazing
Support the club bb and I respect that but don't forget what Lowe did, schwi is the same
Yes...a hollow win...but a bet's a bet.
Also...probably not the best idea to slate our ownership quite to the extent you do (unless you have a better backer waiting in the wings). It can be taken as trying to undermine what us Saints fans are actually best at...supporting Southampton Football Club!
slugger
says...
5:38pm Sat 19 Jan 13
ghk230473 wrote:Got news for you ....... SFC belongs to the Liebherrs lock stock and barrel , oh and i'd be very careful who you compare Nicola to , not liking the guy is fair enough but your comment is just sick .
poshdave wrote:Couldn't put it better. This is OUR club. Sitting back and letting this little c11nt do what ever he likes is just as bad, same as those that new saville was abusing kids but kept quiet because he was bringing money in with charity.
Can't believe how ruthless NA's sacking has been, I'm embarrassed about all of it..................
..... NC was defo right about Pardew, but even if it proves not to be devastating to the club appointing Pocy, for me my support will always feel a bit tainted now while we still have NC........ of course I want us to be successful, but doing things in the right way makes you enjoy the success that much more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
....................
....
as for NA being linked to Blackpool I feel embarrassed that's he's been linked with them...........he should be well out their league..............
....and finally we have to remember it's us the supporters that own the club..........people coming in with the money are just the custodians for a while...............
.....we are the football club and people on the board and NC must remember what we think and what we care about really does matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!
Shame on you that back him. Un f4ckin believable.
warrens 76
says...
5:40pm Sat 19 Jan 13
ghk230473 wrote:GHK..you are emotional about it, as we all are...but lets not kid ourselves, we support our city represented by our team BUT football is a rotten business, at the very top Blatter is imo a fraudster of mega proportions..to a greater or lesser degree they are all at it..
poshdave wrote:Couldn't put it better. This is OUR club. Sitting back and letting this little c11nt do what ever he likes is just as bad, same as those that new saville was abusing kids but kept quiet because he was bringing money in with charity.
Can't believe how ruthless NA's sacking has been, I'm embarrassed about all of it..................
..... NC was defo right about Pardew, but even if it proves not to be devastating to the club appointing Pocy, for me my support will always feel a bit tainted now while we still have NC........ of course I want us to be successful, but doing things in the right way makes you enjoy the success that much more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
....................
....
as for NA being linked to Blackpool I feel embarrassed that's he's been linked with them...........he should be well out their league..............
....and finally we have to remember it's us the supporters that own the club..........people coming in with the money are just the custodians for a while...............
.....we are the football club and people on the board and NC must remember what we think and what we care about really does matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!
Shame on you that back him. Un f4ckin believable.
Big clubs have bought football whats the g16 in Europe all about...the big clubs 'owning' football and all future fans and revenue that's what..
So Cortese has a decision to make..I hate the decision and feel that whatever we gain in the future will be for ever at the expense of an honorable man....
...from a perspective of the future and because football IS commercial Cortese
as a corporate thinker did what he thought was in the best interests of a corporate company....
Regrettably for all concerned Nigel, Fans and even Nicola himself something decent has been sacrificied in the process......
....unfortunately that is the path big business 'believes it has to walk for huge success, all corporates at heart are nasty beasts and I am a capitalist...
In conclusion big business does not have a soul because it THINKS it cannot afford one..
jamcam
says...
5:44pm Sat 19 Jan 13
ghk230473 wrote:Quite correct my friend loyalty my A** I,m afaid NC if he carries on he will become the new Romaov less the £millions of course, a Dictator,hope all this dosent end in tears.
romsey saint wrote:That attitude allowed jimmy saville to abuse kids all those years in the hospitals. Schwi can f11ck off and take his money with him, I for 1 want my club back.
slugger wrote:exactly my point slugger, he has always done what he thinks is right for the club. The most important thing we must remember is if he goes the money goes to
Tizz wrote:Another way of looking at it is this ........ Nicola made a mistake with Pardew (in your opinion) ...... He had the balls to correct the alledged mistake pretty smartish .
Nicola Cortese gets everything right does he?
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
A lot on here have very short memories, we had an egomaniac chairman before and look where that got us, are we really that desperate that we allow this little foreigner drag our good name and reputation into the gutter, alienate our previous hero's and generally treat every one he comes into contact with with such
contempt?
Loyalty is earnt, what kind of impression is this leaving on the youngsters coming thru the ranks? And some questioned the loyalty of chamberlain! F4ckin amazing
ghk230473
says...
5:45pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill wrote:Ostriches!
ghk230473 wrote:Thanks. I will be having a beer in the Joshua Tree after the game on Monday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Have mentioned earlier, receipt will be behind bar of pub of choice. Very hollow win I feel but bets a bet, i wasn't far out and my opinion of cortese and reason to doubt him i feel has been proved right.
ghk230473 wrote:Have you paid up your bet yet ghk?...some proof would be good. Cheers.
romsey saint wrote:That attitude allowed jimmy saville to abuse kids all those years in the hospitals. Schwi can f11ck off and take his money with him, I for 1 want my club back.
slugger wrote:exactly my point slugger, he has always done what he thinks is right for the club. The most important thing we must remember is if he goes the money goes to
Tizz wrote:Another way of looking at it is this ........ Nicola made a mistake with Pardew (in your opinion) ...... He had the balls to correct the alledged mistake pretty smartish .
Nicola Cortese gets everything right does he?
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
A lot on here have very short memories, we had an egomaniac chairman before and look where that got us, are we really that desperate that we allow this little foreigner drag our good name and reputation into the gutter, alienate our previous hero's and generally treat every one he comes into contact with with such
contempt?
Loyalty is earnt, what kind of impression is this leaving on the youngsters coming thru the ranks? And some questioned the loyalty of chamberlain! F4ckin amazing
Support the club bb and I respect that but don't forget what Lowe did, schwi is the same
Yes...a hollow win...but a bet's a bet.
Also...probably not the best idea to slate our ownership quite to the extent you do (unless you have a better backer waiting in the wings). It can be taken as trying to undermine what us Saints fans are actually best at...supporting Southampton Football Club!
I repeat the history lesson, ferguson, moyles and wenger equals longevity in premiership.
Lowe and Cortese interfering dictators equals disaster. Here endeth the lesson. Back cortese and you will also bring the club back down to it's knees.
Baddesley Bill
says...
5:45pm Sat 19 Jan 13
three halves wrote:I already got one ta...I was just interested in which seat number will be remaining empty till the end of the season. You can be exact if you like....it's not as if you'll ever be sitting in it now will you! ;O)
Baddesley Bill wrote:My one in the Itchen south will remain empty but im sure you will get a ticket somewhere .
three halves wrote:Which seat is it?
sfc-4eva- wrote:It is about integrity not money so my seat will remain empty for the rest of the season.
three halves wrote:I'm serious with this comment three halves.
SaintMax wrote:My seat will remain empty this season in protest and i wont be back,i have only missed a couple of home games in ten years so am not some some glory hunter like a lot of the plastics who attend games now.
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:Can I have your ticket then to sell on? Someone will want it if you don't.
three halves wrote:Get over it FFS NA is not coming back so move on and get behind the team!
SaintMax wrote:The way this business has been conducted disgusts me and im more angry now than yesterday.
insane saint wrote:You will come back.
three halves wrote:r u avin a laff
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
TOGETHER AS ONE!!! RED ARRMY..!
Ooh, a little red army came over me all of a sudden..
Even the more critical of NA like myself have been won over by him over the last ten or so games so knowing what was going on behind his back has done it for me.
I know fans will all have different opinions but to blindly follow the club whatever happens is not for me.
Football fans feel like they have to support their team out of misguided loyalty and put up with everything thrown at them.
If you are serious too about not wanting your season ticket then please let me know how much you want for the rest of the season. Thanks
Baddesley Bill
says...
5:48pm Sat 19 Jan 13
ghk230473 wrote:I'll look forward to seeing the proof of payment...
Baddesley Bill wrote:Ostriches!
ghk230473 wrote:Thanks. I will be having a beer in the Joshua Tree after the game on Monday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Have mentioned earlier, receipt will be behind bar of pub of choice. Very hollow win I feel but bets a bet, i wasn't far out and my opinion of cortese and reason to doubt him i feel has been proved right.
ghk230473 wrote:Have you paid up your bet yet ghk?...some proof would be good. Cheers.
romsey saint wrote:That attitude allowed jimmy saville to abuse kids all those years in the hospitals. Schwi can f11ck off and take his money with him, I for 1 want my club back.
slugger wrote:exactly my point slugger, he has always done what he thinks is right for the club. The most important thing we must remember is if he goes the money goes to
Tizz wrote:Another way of looking at it is this ........ Nicola made a mistake with Pardew (in your opinion) ...... He had the balls to correct the alledged mistake pretty smartish .
Nicola Cortese gets everything right does he?
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
A lot on here have very short memories, we had an egomaniac chairman before and look where that got us, are we really that desperate that we allow this little foreigner drag our good name and reputation into the gutter, alienate our previous hero's and generally treat every one he comes into contact with with such
contempt?
Loyalty is earnt, what kind of impression is this leaving on the youngsters coming thru the ranks? And some questioned the loyalty of chamberlain! F4ckin amazing
Support the club bb and I respect that but don't forget what Lowe did, schwi is the same
Yes...a hollow win...but a bet's a bet.
Also...probably not the best idea to slate our ownership quite to the extent you do (unless you have a better backer waiting in the wings). It can be taken as trying to undermine what us Saints fans are actually best at...supporting Southampton Football Club!
I repeat the history lesson, ferguson, moyles and wenger equals longevity in premiership.
Lowe and Cortese interfering dictators equals disaster. Here endeth the lesson. Back cortese and you will also bring the club back down to it's knees.
...afterall...integr
ity is everything isn't it ghk.
ghk230473
says...
5:50pm Sat 19 Jan 13
slugger wrote:Have a read back slug, not comparing him to saville but comparing those that back cortese to the ones that new what saville was doing but let him get away with it because of money.
ghk230473 wrote:Got news for you ....... SFC belongs to the Liebherrs lock stock and barrel , oh and i'd be very careful who you compare Nicola to , not liking the guy is fair enough but your comment is just sick .
poshdave wrote:Couldn't put it better. This is OUR club. Sitting back and letting this little c11nt do what ever he likes is just as bad, same as those that new saville was abusing kids but kept quiet because he was bringing money in with charity.
Can't believe how ruthless NA's sacking has been, I'm embarrassed about all of it..................
..... NC was defo right about Pardew, but even if it proves not to be devastating to the club appointing Pocy, for me my support will always feel a bit tainted now while we still have NC........ of course I want us to be successful, but doing things in the right way makes you enjoy the success that much more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
....................
....
as for NA being linked to Blackpool I feel embarrassed that's he's been linked with them...........he should be well out their league..............
....and finally we have to remember it's us the supporters that own the club..........people coming in with the money are just the custodians for a while...............
.....we are the football club and people on the board and NC must remember what we think and what we care about really does matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!
Shame on you that back him. Un f4ckin believable.
El Santo
says...
5:53pm Sat 19 Jan 13
warrens 76 wrote:Excellent post. A club is not only about winning, it's also about "feeling".
The problem for us Saints fans is that from a business perspective ie success at any cost NC is probably right...
..However for us real fans we have been introduced to a strange thing called 'integrity'...
..when you look at the crooks who actually run the very top of football never mind ruthless chairman look at Blatter et al you can then see how alien it is..
...and we all liked it, that 'as one' feeling against Coventry was something I have never experianced before and I have been going since 1971..
So Cortese has possibly done the right thing commercially and the worst thing morally....for big corporates who don't give a flying fück about their customers it is one thing.....
...however for a club to throw this feeling away is very dangerous and makes any future success feel 'tainted' as it was at the expense of something more important..
ghk230473
says...
5:54pm Sat 19 Jan 13
warrens 76 wrote:He's not just making decisions but trying to run the team, is that good business?
ghk230473 wrote:GHK..you are emotional about it, as we all are...but lets not kid ourselves, we support our city represented by our team BUT football is a rotten business, at the very top Blatter is imo a fraudster of mega proportions..to a greater or lesser degree they are all at it..
poshdave wrote:Couldn't put it better. This is OUR club. Sitting back and letting this little c11nt do what ever he likes is just as bad, same as those that new saville was abusing kids but kept quiet because he was bringing money in with charity.
Can't believe how ruthless NA's sacking has been, I'm embarrassed about all of it..................
..... NC was defo right about Pardew, but even if it proves not to be devastating to the club appointing Pocy, for me my support will always feel a bit tainted now while we still have NC........ of course I want us to be successful, but doing things in the right way makes you enjoy the success that much more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
....................
....
as for NA being linked to Blackpool I feel embarrassed that's he's been linked with them...........he should be well out their league..............
....and finally we have to remember it's us the supporters that own the club..........people coming in with the money are just the custodians for a while...............
.....we are the football club and people on the board and NC must remember what we think and what we care about really does matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!
Shame on you that back him. Un f4ckin believable.
Big clubs have bought football whats the g16 in Europe all about...the big clubs 'owning' football and all future fans and revenue that's what..
So Cortese has a decision to make..I hate the decision and feel that whatever we gain in the future will be for ever at the expense of an honorable man....
...from a perspective of the future and because football IS commercial Cortese
as a corporate thinker did what he thought was in the best interests of a corporate company....
Regrettably for all concerned Nigel, Fans and even Nicola himself something decent has been sacrificied in the process......
....unfortunately that is the path big business 'believes it has to walk for huge success, all corporates at heart are nasty beasts and I am a capitalist...
In conclusion big business does not have a soul because it THINKS it cannot afford one..
I hope I'm wrong but this will all end in tears.
slugger
says...
5:59pm Sat 19 Jan 13
ghk230473 wrote:That is the daftest comparison i think i've ever read ! ....... I back Nicola because I believe he's the best thing that has happend to SFC im my memory ...... this is my opinion and am careful to not slate anyone who disagrees (it's all a bit emotional at the mo) ..... it would appear that you are insinuating the i'm as bad a person as those who allowed Saville to do his disgusting stuff , I take that as an insult .
slugger wrote:Have a read back slug, not comparing him to saville but comparing those that back cortese to the ones that new what saville was doing but let him get away with it because of money.
ghk230473 wrote:Got news for you ....... SFC belongs to the Liebherrs lock stock and barrel , oh and i'd be very careful who you compare Nicola to , not liking the guy is fair enough but your comment is just sick .
poshdave wrote:Couldn't put it better. This is OUR club. Sitting back and letting this little c11nt do what ever he likes is just as bad, same as those that new saville was abusing kids but kept quiet because he was bringing money in with charity.
Can't believe how ruthless NA's sacking has been, I'm embarrassed about all of it..................
..... NC was defo right about Pardew, but even if it proves not to be devastating to the club appointing Pocy, for me my support will always feel a bit tainted now while we still have NC........ of course I want us to be successful, but doing things in the right way makes you enjoy the success that much more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
....................
....
as for NA being linked to Blackpool I feel embarrassed that's he's been linked with them...........he should be well out their league..............
....and finally we have to remember it's us the supporters that own the club..........people coming in with the money are just the custodians for a while...............
.....we are the football club and people on the board and NC must remember what we think and what we care about really does matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!
Shame on you that back him. Un f4ckin believable.
three halves
says...
6:00pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill wrote:Im not sure why you have a interest in empty seat numbers if you already have a ticket.
three halves wrote:I already got one ta...I was just interested in which seat number will be remaining empty till the end of the season. You can be exact if you like....it's not as if you'll ever be sitting in it now will you! ;O)
Baddesley Bill wrote:My one in the Itchen south will remain empty but im sure you will get a ticket somewhere .
three halves wrote:Which seat is it?
sfc-4eva- wrote:It is about integrity not money so my seat will remain empty for the rest of the season.
three halves wrote:I'm serious with this comment three halves.
SaintMax wrote:My seat will remain empty this season in protest and i wont be back,i have only missed a couple of home games in ten years so am not some some glory hunter like a lot of the plastics who attend games now.
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:Can I have your ticket then to sell on? Someone will want it if you don't.
three halves wrote:Get over it FFS NA is not coming back so move on and get behind the team!
SaintMax wrote:The way this business has been conducted disgusts me and im more angry now than yesterday.
insane saint wrote:You will come back.
three halves wrote:r u avin a laff
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
TOGETHER AS ONE!!! RED ARRMY..!
Ooh, a little red army came over me all of a sudden..
Even the more critical of NA like myself have been won over by him over the last ten or so games so knowing what was going on behind his back has done it for me.
I know fans will all have different opinions but to blindly follow the club whatever happens is not for me.
Football fans feel like they have to support their team out of misguided loyalty and put up with everything thrown at them.
If you are serious too about not wanting your season ticket then please let me know how much you want for the rest of the season. Thanks
ghk230473
says...
6:00pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill wrote:It's the least I can do, got a feeling the saints trust is going to be needing every penny.
ghk230473 wrote:I'll look forward to seeing the proof of payment...
Baddesley Bill wrote:Ostriches!
ghk230473 wrote:Thanks. I will be having a beer in the Joshua Tree after the game on Monday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Have mentioned earlier, receipt will be behind bar of pub of choice. Very hollow win I feel but bets a bet, i wasn't far out and my opinion of cortese and reason to doubt him i feel has been proved right.
ghk230473 wrote:Have you paid up your bet yet ghk?...some proof would be good. Cheers.
romsey saint wrote:That attitude allowed jimmy saville to abuse kids all those years in the hospitals. Schwi can f11ck off and take his money with him, I for 1 want my club back.
slugger wrote:exactly my point slugger, he has always done what he thinks is right for the club. The most important thing we must remember is if he goes the money goes to
Tizz wrote:Another way of looking at it is this ........ Nicola made a mistake with Pardew (in your opinion) ...... He had the balls to correct the alledged mistake pretty smartish .
Nicola Cortese gets everything right does he?
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
A lot on here have very short memories, we had an egomaniac chairman before and look where that got us, are we really that desperate that we allow this little foreigner drag our good name and reputation into the gutter, alienate our previous hero's and generally treat every one he comes into contact with with such
contempt?
Loyalty is earnt, what kind of impression is this leaving on the youngsters coming thru the ranks? And some questioned the loyalty of chamberlain! F4ckin amazing
Support the club bb and I respect that but don't forget what Lowe did, schwi is the same
Yes...a hollow win...but a bet's a bet.
Also...probably not the best idea to slate our ownership quite to the extent you do (unless you have a better backer waiting in the wings). It can be taken as trying to undermine what us Saints fans are actually best at...supporting Southampton Football Club!
I repeat the history lesson, ferguson, moyles and wenger equals longevity in premiership.
Lowe and Cortese interfering dictators equals disaster. Here endeth the lesson. Back cortese and you will also bring the club back down to it's knees.
...afterall...integr
ity is everything isn't it ghk.
Keep backing cortese and you will also have blood on your hands.
slugger
says...
6:05pm Sat 19 Jan 13
ghk230473
says...
6:06pm Sat 19 Jan 13
slugger wrote:Those that allowed saville to carry on are as bad as saville, those that back cortese are as bad cortese.
ghk230473 wrote:That is the daftest comparison i think i've ever read ! ....... I back Nicola because I believe he's the best thing that has happend to SFC im my memory ...... this is my opinion and am careful to not slate anyone who disagrees (it's all a bit emotional at the mo) ..... it would appear that you are insinuating the i'm as bad a person as those who allowed Saville to do his disgusting stuff , I take that as an insult .
slugger wrote:Have a read back slug, not comparing him to saville but comparing those that back cortese to the ones that new what saville was doing but let him get away with it because of money.
ghk230473 wrote:Got news for you ....... SFC belongs to the Liebherrs lock stock and barrel , oh and i'd be very careful who you compare Nicola to , not liking the guy is fair enough but your comment is just sick .
poshdave wrote:Couldn't put it better. This is OUR club. Sitting back and letting this little c11nt do what ever he likes is just as bad, same as those that new saville was abusing kids but kept quiet because he was bringing money in with charity.
Can't believe how ruthless NA's sacking has been, I'm embarrassed about all of it..................
..... NC was defo right about Pardew, but even if it proves not to be devastating to the club appointing Pocy, for me my support will always feel a bit tainted now while we still have NC........ of course I want us to be successful, but doing things in the right way makes you enjoy the success that much more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
....................
....
as for NA being linked to Blackpool I feel embarrassed that's he's been linked with them...........he should be well out their league..............
....and finally we have to remember it's us the supporters that own the club..........people coming in with the money are just the custodians for a while...............
.....we are the football club and people on the board and NC must remember what we think and what we care about really does matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!
Shame on you that back him. Un f4ckin believable.
Time will tell, but history has shown as with Lowe there is no future in an interfering chairman. Simple.
Baddesley Bill
says...
6:10pm Sat 19 Jan 13
ghk230473 wrote:Good man...I don't back Cortese in eveything he does...but I do back my Club 100%...end of.
Baddesley Bill wrote:It's the least I can do, got a feeling the saints trust is going to be needing every penny.
ghk230473 wrote:I'll look forward to seeing the proof of payment...
Baddesley Bill wrote:Ostriches!
ghk230473 wrote:Thanks. I will be having a beer in the Joshua Tree after the game on Monday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Have mentioned earlier, receipt will be behind bar of pub of choice. Very hollow win I feel but bets a bet, i wasn't far out and my opinion of cortese and reason to doubt him i feel has been proved right.
ghk230473 wrote:Have you paid up your bet yet ghk?...some proof would be good. Cheers.
romsey saint wrote:That attitude allowed jimmy saville to abuse kids all those years in the hospitals. Schwi can f11ck off and take his money with him, I for 1 want my club back.
slugger wrote:exactly my point slugger, he has always done what he thinks is right for the club. The most important thing we must remember is if he goes the money goes to
Tizz wrote:Another way of looking at it is this ........ Nicola made a mistake with Pardew (in your opinion) ...... He had the balls to correct the alledged mistake pretty smartish .
Nicola Cortese gets everything right does he?
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
A lot on here have very short memories, we had an egomaniac chairman before and look where that got us, are we really that desperate that we allow this little foreigner drag our good name and reputation into the gutter, alienate our previous hero's and generally treat every one he comes into contact with with such
contempt?
Loyalty is earnt, what kind of impression is this leaving on the youngsters coming thru the ranks? And some questioned the loyalty of chamberlain! F4ckin amazing
Support the club bb and I respect that but don't forget what Lowe did, schwi is the same
Yes...a hollow win...but a bet's a bet.
Also...probably not the best idea to slate our ownership quite to the extent you do (unless you have a better backer waiting in the wings). It can be taken as trying to undermine what us Saints fans are actually best at...supporting Southampton Football Club!
I repeat the history lesson, ferguson, moyles and wenger equals longevity in premiership.
Lowe and Cortese interfering dictators equals disaster. Here endeth the lesson. Back cortese and you will also bring the club back down to it's knees.
...afterall...integr
ity is everything isn't it ghk.
Keep backing cortese and you will also have blood on your hands.
St Forlife
says...
6:22pm Sat 19 Jan 13
SFCOLDBOY wrote:Nice one - I'll be there!
St Forlife wrote:Go!
Sleeping on this it seems to me that the timing was all about the fear of Nigel becoming a success. He clearly had given the nod to the new guy (can't even remember his namio without going back to look it up) because he has bee 'studying' the players for a matter of weeks - so it has been in the bag behind Nigel's back.
The fear was starting to grow with Cortese that he had a very good manager under him - but there is something non-football going on here!! The longer he left it the higher up the table Saints would be - Cortese didn't want that.
Cortese is about himself - his ego in achieving something - Southampton FC is just a product. he will think he's doing it for the club but he is doing it for himself.
I like one or two others on here are toiling with the decision to go on Monday. Being there makes me feel party to everything and the force behind the blade in his back. But I will always be a Saint - what a conundrum - I have a 40 mile each way trip to each match - kind hope the snow keeps falling and makes the decision for me!!
Support our team.
Thats what we do,lets show our appreciation of Nigel,show our discust at the way he was deposed, then move on.
The players need our possitivity.
Did you see that?
There's little bit of Nigel left in all of us.
COYS
three halves
says...
7:16pm Sat 19 Jan 13
St Forlife wrote:Enjoy the game and support the dictator and the way the club is heading.
SFCOLDBOY wrote:Nice one - I'll be there!
St Forlife wrote:Go!
Sleeping on this it seems to me that the timing was all about the fear of Nigel becoming a success. He clearly had given the nod to the new guy (can't even remember his namio without going back to look it up) because he has bee 'studying' the players for a matter of weeks - so it has been in the bag behind Nigel's back.
The fear was starting to grow with Cortese that he had a very good manager under him - but there is something non-football going on here!! The longer he left it the higher up the table Saints would be - Cortese didn't want that.
Cortese is about himself - his ego in achieving something - Southampton FC is just a product. he will think he's doing it for the club but he is doing it for himself.
I like one or two others on here are toiling with the decision to go on Monday. Being there makes me feel party to everything and the force behind the blade in his back. But I will always be a Saint - what a conundrum - I have a 40 mile each way trip to each match - kind hope the snow keeps falling and makes the decision for me!!
Support our team.
Thats what we do,lets show our appreciation of Nigel,show our discust at the way he was deposed, then move on.
The players need our possitivity.
Did you see that?
There's little bit of Nigel left in all of us.
COYS
hedge end bob
says...
7:23pm Sat 19 Jan 13
slugger wrote:Hi slugger, i am like you mate. You dont have to like the boss but, if you dont support him soon there will be nothing left to boss. I think 99% of SAINTS can see that , but do you think after all NIGEL has done for our club he has been treated in a decent manner???. By this i mean have i missed a public announcement saying . Southampton football club today have dispenced of the services of MR ADKINS. Everybody at the club would like to thank Nigel for all the effort he has put into to club over the last two and a half years. We would also like to wish him every success in his next appointment in the near future. Or somthng on those lines instead of just plunging a efing great knife in his back???.
Bermondsey boy wrote:I'll always support whoever is in charge (or at least give them a chance) , I was as gutted as anyone at yesterdays news , football is a tough business and have made my decision to move on .
slugger wrote:Somewhat surprised at you slugger. You have been one of the voices of reason over Nigel's difficult days, and I thought you would be disgusted at cortese's treatment of a very good manager, and decent human being. I really wouldn't want you in my corner if things got tough. He has stabbed the man who got us into the premiership in the back, and if that is ok with you, I am disappointed.
Laurie did indeed pee off to Sunderland when the opportunity arose , not much loyalty there . I suggest that none of us know's the timescale that Nigel was given when he came . Good luck Nigel and thanks a million ............. Even better luck Maurico you have this fans backing 100 % as does Nicola ........ COYR !!!
I will still support the club100% but that dont mean i like or think the little Italian runt can do no wrong.
slugger
says...
7:31pm Sat 19 Jan 13
It has however set me thinking about how we all feel about our club and a quite clear mismatch between the values of many of our fans and those of our chairman.
Over the last few months I believe we had slipped back into being the fans of the old Southampton FC. We all still saw our club as a friendly provincial club that was not going to set the world alight. We had one or two good players and we played attractive football. We could on our day turn over one of the top sides and on another get a drubbing from a struggling one. As the season developed it looked like we were going to just about survive in the Premier League but that it would probably go to the wire. We were satisfied with that and it is what we have come to accept.
The old days and the Saints of old were back and we had slipped into our familiar comfort zone.
What we had all forgotten was the ambition of our chairman. He sees Saints very differently to many of the fans who maybe just didn't believe him or thought it was just words or him daydreaming when he talked about where he saw Saints in the future.
But that is not so. Nicola has a vision and he is going to make sure we achieve it.
It has taken the shock of the dismissal of Nigel to shake us out of our apathy and to make us think that we are perhaps in the embryonic stages of something that is beyond our imagination.
In organisational culture theory it is often said that a shock or surprise event is needed to move an organisation from its former culture into a new and very different one. Well yesterday's news was just such a shock for many.
Today I have at last realised that Southampton FC has become a very different football club to the one I have supported for over forty years.
I have to ask myself whether I share Nicola's vision for the future or if I hanker for the Saints of old.
If I wish to remain a Saints fan it has to be the former for the latter is no longer in existence.
So it has to be thanks Nigel Adkins and good luck to you and welcome Mauricio Pochettino. ........... copied and pasted from 606 ........... sums it up for me !
Baddesley Bill
says...
7:36pm Sat 19 Jan 13
three halves wrote:Will do! COYR :O)
St Forlife wrote:Enjoy the game and support the dictator and the way the club is heading.
SFCOLDBOY wrote:Nice one - I'll be there!
St Forlife wrote:Go!
Sleeping on this it seems to me that the timing was all about the fear of Nigel becoming a success. He clearly had given the nod to the new guy (can't even remember his namio without going back to look it up) because he has bee 'studying' the players for a matter of weeks - so it has been in the bag behind Nigel's back.
The fear was starting to grow with Cortese that he had a very good manager under him - but there is something non-football going on here!! The longer he left it the higher up the table Saints would be - Cortese didn't want that.
Cortese is about himself - his ego in achieving something - Southampton FC is just a product. he will think he's doing it for the club but he is doing it for himself.
I like one or two others on here are toiling with the decision to go on Monday. Being there makes me feel party to everything and the force behind the blade in his back. But I will always be a Saint - what a conundrum - I have a 40 mile each way trip to each match - kind hope the snow keeps falling and makes the decision for me!!
Support our team.
Thats what we do,lets show our appreciation of Nigel,show our discust at the way he was deposed, then move on.
The players need our possitivity.
Did you see that?
There's little bit of Nigel left in all of us.
COYS
slugger
says...
7:36pm Sat 19 Jan 13
hedge end bob wrote:Hi back Bob ......... i do agree ...... Nicolas' PR stinks at best .
slugger wrote:Hi slugger, i am like you mate. You dont have to like the boss but, if you dont support him soon there will be nothing left to boss. I think 99% of SAINTS can see that , but do you think after all NIGEL has done for our club he has been treated in a decent manner???. By this i mean have i missed a public announcement saying . Southampton football club today have dispenced of the services of MR ADKINS. Everybody at the club would like to thank Nigel for all the effort he has put into to club over the last two and a half years. We would also like to wish him every success in his next appointment in the near future. Or somthng on those lines instead of just plunging a efing great knife in his back???.
Bermondsey boy wrote:I'll always support whoever is in charge (or at least give them a chance) , I was as gutted as anyone at yesterdays news , football is a tough business and have made my decision to move on .
slugger wrote:Somewhat surprised at you slugger. You have been one of the voices of reason over Nigel's difficult days, and I thought you would be disgusted at cortese's treatment of a very good manager, and decent human being. I really wouldn't want you in my corner if things got tough. He has stabbed the man who got us into the premiership in the back, and if that is ok with you, I am disappointed.
Laurie did indeed pee off to Sunderland when the opportunity arose , not much loyalty there . I suggest that none of us know's the timescale that Nigel was given when he came . Good luck Nigel and thanks a million ............. Even better luck Maurico you have this fans backing 100 % as does Nicola ........ COYR !!!
I will still support the club100% but that dont mean i like or think the little Italian runt can do no wrong.
three halves
says...
7:42pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill wrote:I wasent speaking to you obviously if you care to look.
three halves wrote:Will do! COYR :O)
St Forlife wrote:Enjoy the game and support the dictator and the way the club is heading.
SFCOLDBOY wrote:Nice one - I'll be there!
St Forlife wrote:Go!
Sleeping on this it seems to me that the timing was all about the fear of Nigel becoming a success. He clearly had given the nod to the new guy (can't even remember his namio without going back to look it up) because he has bee 'studying' the players for a matter of weeks - so it has been in the bag behind Nigel's back.
The fear was starting to grow with Cortese that he had a very good manager under him - but there is something non-football going on here!! The longer he left it the higher up the table Saints would be - Cortese didn't want that.
Cortese is about himself - his ego in achieving something - Southampton FC is just a product. he will think he's doing it for the club but he is doing it for himself.
I like one or two others on here are toiling with the decision to go on Monday. Being there makes me feel party to everything and the force behind the blade in his back. But I will always be a Saint - what a conundrum - I have a 40 mile each way trip to each match - kind hope the snow keeps falling and makes the decision for me!!
Support our team.
Thats what we do,lets show our appreciation of Nigel,show our discust at the way he was deposed, then move on.
The players need our possitivity.
Did you see that?
There's little bit of Nigel left in all of us.
COYS
slugger
says...
7:45pm Sat 19 Jan 13
three halves wrote:Who are you ? , never seen you around these parts before .
Baddesley Bill wrote:I wasent speaking to you obviously if you care to look.
three halves wrote:Will do! COYR :O)
St Forlife wrote:Enjoy the game and support the dictator and the way the club is heading.
SFCOLDBOY wrote:Nice one - I'll be there!
St Forlife wrote:Go!
Sleeping on this it seems to me that the timing was all about the fear of Nigel becoming a success. He clearly had given the nod to the new guy (can't even remember his namio without going back to look it up) because he has bee 'studying' the players for a matter of weeks - so it has been in the bag behind Nigel's back.
The fear was starting to grow with Cortese that he had a very good manager under him - but there is something non-football going on here!! The longer he left it the higher up the table Saints would be - Cortese didn't want that.
Cortese is about himself - his ego in achieving something - Southampton FC is just a product. he will think he's doing it for the club but he is doing it for himself.
I like one or two others on here are toiling with the decision to go on Monday. Being there makes me feel party to everything and the force behind the blade in his back. But I will always be a Saint - what a conundrum - I have a 40 mile each way trip to each match - kind hope the snow keeps falling and makes the decision for me!!
Support our team.
Thats what we do,lets show our appreciation of Nigel,show our discust at the way he was deposed, then move on.
The players need our possitivity.
Did you see that?
There's little bit of Nigel left in all of us.
COYS
st1halo
says...
7:52pm Sat 19 Jan 13
ghk230473 wrote:Sorry but Lowe and NC are nothing like each other. Lowe was after the money from the start with his reverse take over of the club. It strikes me that Cortese is actually putting some integrity back into the club. No free rides, no gravy train, not even for himself. We are not aware of all the affair surrounding Nigel and so shouldn't speculte too much. I do think that Nigel has gone at the right time rather than on the back of a string of defeats and this enhances his rep.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Ostriches!
ghk230473 wrote:Thanks. I will be having a beer in the Joshua Tree after the game on Monday.
Baddesley Bill wrote:Have mentioned earlier, receipt will be behind bar of pub of choice. Very hollow win I feel but bets a bet, i wasn't far out and my opinion of cortese and reason to doubt him i feel has been proved right.
ghk230473 wrote:Have you paid up your bet yet ghk?...some proof would be good. Cheers.
romsey saint wrote:That attitude allowed jimmy saville to abuse kids all those years in the hospitals. Schwi can f11ck off and take his money with him, I for 1 want my club back.
slugger wrote:exactly my point slugger, he has always done what he thinks is right for the club. The most important thing we must remember is if he goes the money goes to
Tizz wrote:Another way of looking at it is this ........ Nicola made a mistake with Pardew (in your opinion) ...... He had the balls to correct the alledged mistake pretty smartish .
Nicola Cortese gets everything right does he?
What about the appointment of Alan Pardew?
If he had to sack him after little over a year - and our results in League One over 2009/10 weren't up to his expectations - Cortese clearly made a mistake with that appointment.
A lot on here have very short memories, we had an egomaniac chairman before and look where that got us, are we really that desperate that we allow this little foreigner drag our good name and reputation into the gutter, alienate our previous hero's and generally treat every one he comes into contact with with such
contempt?
Loyalty is earnt, what kind of impression is this leaving on the youngsters coming thru the ranks? And some questioned the loyalty of chamberlain! F4ckin amazing
Support the club bb and I respect that but don't forget what Lowe did, schwi is the same
Yes...a hollow win...but a bet's a bet.
Also...probably not the best idea to slate our ownership quite to the extent you do (unless you have a better backer waiting in the wings). It can be taken as trying to undermine what us Saints fans are actually best at...supporting Southampton Football Club!
I repeat the history lesson, ferguson, moyles and wenger equals longevity in premiership.
Lowe and Cortese interfering dictators equals disaster. Here endeth the lesson. Back cortese and you will also bring the club back down to it's knees.
You obviuosly don't like NC but if you have enjoyed any of the football and achievements over the last three years, it's him you have to thank.
STID
warrens 76
says...
7:54pm Sat 19 Jan 13
slugger wrote:GHK, you are taking this way to far...seriously Cortese=Saville are you insane..we are all upset but ffs get some perspective..
ghk ..... who's blood ? , don't be such a drama queen ! lol
Baddesley Bill
says...
7:59pm Sat 19 Jan 13
slugger wrote:He has an imaginary seat that is going to remain empty. In Itchen South too...should be easy to locate it...if only he gives us the seat number!
three halves wrote:Who are you ? , never seen you around these parts before .
Baddesley Bill wrote:I wasent speaking to you obviously if you care to look.
three halves wrote:Will do! COYR :O)
St Forlife wrote:Enjoy the game and support the dictator and the way the club is heading.
SFCOLDBOY wrote:Nice one - I'll be there!
St Forlife wrote:Go!
Sleeping on this it seems to me that the timing was all about the fear of Nigel becoming a success. He clearly had given the nod to the new guy (can't even remember his namio without going back to look it up) because he has bee 'studying' the players for a matter of weeks - so it has been in the bag behind Nigel's back.
The fear was starting to grow with Cortese that he had a very good manager under him - but there is something non-football going on here!! The longer he left it the higher up the table Saints would be - Cortese didn't want that.
Cortese is about himself - his ego in achieving something - Southampton FC is just a product. he will think he's doing it for the club but he is doing it for himself.
I like one or two others on here are toiling with the decision to go on Monday. Being there makes me feel party to everything and the force behind the blade in his back. But I will always be a Saint - what a conundrum - I have a 40 mile each way trip to each match - kind hope the snow keeps falling and makes the decision for me!!
Support our team.
Thats what we do,lets show our appreciation of Nigel,show our discust at the way he was deposed, then move on.
The players need our possitivity.
Did you see that?
There's little bit of Nigel left in all of us.
COYS
I would suggest his empty seat is actually located with all the other empty seats in the Fratton End!
three halves
says...
8:05pm Sat 19 Jan 13
slugger wrote:Can he speak for himself by any chance ?
three halves wrote:Who are you ? , never seen you around these parts before .
Baddesley Bill wrote:I wasent speaking to you obviously if you care to look.
three halves wrote:Will do! COYR :O)
St Forlife wrote:Enjoy the game and support the dictator and the way the club is heading.
SFCOLDBOY wrote:Nice one - I'll be there!
St Forlife wrote:Go!
Sleeping on this it seems to me that the timing was all about the fear of Nigel becoming a success. He clearly had given the nod to the new guy (can't even remember his namio without going back to look it up) because he has bee 'studying' the players for a matter of weeks - so it has been in the bag behind Nigel's back.
The fear was starting to grow with Cortese that he had a very good manager under him - but there is something non-football going on here!! The longer he left it the higher up the table Saints would be - Cortese didn't want that.
Cortese is about himself - his ego in achieving something - Southampton FC is just a product. he will think he's doing it for the club but he is doing it for himself.
I like one or two others on here are toiling with the decision to go on Monday. Being there makes me feel party to everything and the force behind the blade in his back. But I will always be a Saint - what a conundrum - I have a 40 mile each way trip to each match - kind hope the snow keeps falling and makes the decision for me!!
Support our team.
Thats what we do,lets show our appreciation of Nigel,show our discust at the way he was deposed, then move on.
The players need our possitivity.
Did you see that?
There's little bit of Nigel left in all of us.
COYS
Bingo from Sholing
says...
8:08pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill
says...
8:22pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Bingo from Sholing wrote:Very true... no doubt we (as fans) will outlast the lot of em.
Nigel A was a good manager, and it appears he is a good person. He should have been given the time to learn his trade in the Premiership. I think we would have finished in the top half of the table had he stayed. His approach to the game was methodical. The fans shouted "..there is only one Nigel Atkins" with sincerity, and not without reason. I think he will be England manager one day but he will need to show now he handles failure well,as well as success. Above all, what his sacking shows is that football clubs do not belong to the supporters, as we like to claim. We have little power to influence key decisions. For example, are we happy with the current predominatly red shirts? I suspect not in most cases. Were we consulted, no!. Adkins made some strange decisions like the untimely substitution of Lambert and Puncheon in two home games, which cost us a victory, but like everyone with genuine passion and skill for their job, he deserved to stay. The old expression what goes around comes around is true, and Mr Cortese will have his day too!
Football has gone much beyond being the "funny old game". It has become dog eat dog....no sentiments....sh1t or bust.
I just hope that we don't go down the road of Blackburn/Chelsea where fans turn up to boo their team and manager.
It's about enjoyment...and I get enjoyment from supporting my Club. Always will do.
warrens 76
says...
8:27pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill wrote:I like the red shirts, genuinely red as with all white for some reason looks good with flowing football...
Bingo from Sholing wrote:Very true... no doubt we (as fans) will outlast the lot of em.
Nigel A was a good manager, and it appears he is a good person. He should have been given the time to learn his trade in the Premiership. I think we would have finished in the top half of the table had he stayed. His approach to the game was methodical. The fans shouted "..there is only one Nigel Atkins" with sincerity, and not without reason. I think he will be England manager one day but he will need to show now he handles failure well,as well as success. Above all, what his sacking shows is that football clubs do not belong to the supporters, as we like to claim. We have little power to influence key decisions. For example, are we happy with the current predominatly red shirts? I suspect not in most cases. Were we consulted, no!. Adkins made some strange decisions like the untimely substitution of Lambert and Puncheon in two home games, which cost us a victory, but like everyone with genuine passion and skill for their job, he deserved to stay. The old expression what goes around comes around is true, and Mr Cortese will have his day too!
Football has gone much beyond being the "funny old game". It has become dog eat dog....no sentiments....sh1t or bust.
I just hope that we don't go down the road of Blackburn/Chelsea where fans turn up to boo their team and manager.
It's about enjoyment...and I get enjoyment from supporting my Club. Always will do.
As good as we have been red and whit and black teams always look 'clumsy' it is actually a recognised eye phenomenon...
We always sing come on you reds so may as well be red....or YELLOWS.
Velleity
says...
8:59pm Sat 19 Jan 13
slugger wrote:He popped up seven days ago.
three halves wrote:Who are you ? , never seen you around these parts before .
Baddesley Bill wrote:I wasent speaking to you obviously if you care to look.
three halves wrote:Will do! COYR :O)
St Forlife wrote:Enjoy the game and support the dictator and the way the club is heading.
SFCOLDBOY wrote:Nice one - I'll be there!
St Forlife wrote:Go!
Sleeping on this it seems to me that the timing was all about the fear of Nigel becoming a success. He clearly had given the nod to the new guy (can't even remember his namio without going back to look it up) because he has bee 'studying' the players for a matter of weeks - so it has been in the bag behind Nigel's back.
The fear was starting to grow with Cortese that he had a very good manager under him - but there is something non-football going on here!! The longer he left it the higher up the table Saints would be - Cortese didn't want that.
Cortese is about himself - his ego in achieving something - Southampton FC is just a product. he will think he's doing it for the club but he is doing it for himself.
I like one or two others on here are toiling with the decision to go on Monday. Being there makes me feel party to everything and the force behind the blade in his back. But I will always be a Saint - what a conundrum - I have a 40 mile each way trip to each match - kind hope the snow keeps falling and makes the decision for me!!
Support our team.
Thats what we do,lets show our appreciation of Nigel,show our discust at the way he was deposed, then move on.
The players need our possitivity.
Did you see that?
There's little bit of Nigel left in all of us.
COYS
He posted this little beauty yesterday morning:
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three halves says...
10:11am Fri 18 Jan 13
If there is a change of manager on the horizon at least get someone who is proven at the top level and not a foreigner no one has heard off.
---------
Interesting that at that point there was no statement that NA must not go, just concern about who would replace him. No deep principle, just a normal, straightforward comment. I only noticed it because I'd never seen the poster's name before.
I mention it just because we seem to be hearing from plenty of people who didn't give a toss about NA (even some who wanted him to go, even some who wanted him to go last season for being tactically naive) but who are now ready to bomb the management suite at St Mary's over NA's departure. No names, no pack drill but there's a lot of it about.
I stress, I hate the fact that Nigel's gone: he was a breath of fresh air in a dirty industry. I suspect he'll end up proving to be a great manager. I took a great deal of slating for supporting him through thick and thin. But he's gone. All that's consistent in this is the *team* and they will have my unconditional support on Monday (and for all games).
The hypocrisy and amateur dramatics on here from some posters is a bit overwhelming.
OSPREYSAINT
says...
9:37pm Sat 19 Jan 13
three halves wrote:Let me think now, who was it who posted on here before, that couldnt spell wasn't, always putting the extra 'e' in it. No doubt Velly will do a bit of research and will tell us.
Baddesley Bill wrote:I wasent speaking to you obviously if you care to look.
three halves wrote:Will do! COYR :O)
St Forlife wrote:Enjoy the game and support the dictator and the way the club is heading.
SFCOLDBOY wrote:Nice one - I'll be there!
St Forlife wrote:Go!
Sleeping on this it seems to me that the timing was all about the fear of Nigel becoming a success. He clearly had given the nod to the new guy (can't even remember his namio without going back to look it up) because he has bee 'studying' the players for a matter of weeks - so it has been in the bag behind Nigel's back.
The fear was starting to grow with Cortese that he had a very good manager under him - but there is something non-football going on here!! The longer he left it the higher up the table Saints would be - Cortese didn't want that.
Cortese is about himself - his ego in achieving something - Southampton FC is just a product. he will think he's doing it for the club but he is doing it for himself.
I like one or two others on here are toiling with the decision to go on Monday. Being there makes me feel party to everything and the force behind the blade in his back. But I will always be a Saint - what a conundrum - I have a 40 mile each way trip to each match - kind hope the snow keeps falling and makes the decision for me!!
Support our team.
Thats what we do,lets show our appreciation of Nigel,show our discust at the way he was deposed, then move on.
The players need our possitivity.
Did you see that?
There's little bit of Nigel left in all of us.
COYS
redsnapper
says...
9:39pm Sat 19 Jan 13
So supporters associations please cut the crap about protests and waving virus filled hankies!
We are supporters and customers and the players have a new boss and he and us expect them to perform and to deliver a win every game .
I think MAuricio is good news for SFC
COYR.
Bingo from Sholing
says...
9:58pm Sat 19 Jan 13
redsnapper wrote:But we do not have a new boss. We are the customers! Cortese is the supplier and Mauricio P. (I will abbreviate for now) is his new delivery man. In other words I am not sure I like it when "the tail wags the dog". I hope Mauricio P. is good news, but so was Adkins. Our disagreemeent comes I think in the relative risks of changing someone, for someone else who may not be as good in a number of human respects. It may well be the case that you know all about the details of Mauricio's talents, in which case I apologise because I don't. But from the scant research I have done I certainly cannot see what drives your optimism for the appointment. At perhaps the lowest level of the debate, Mauricio represents yet another foreigner taking an Englisman's job, without proper credentials.
When yr work boss is sacked what do you do when the new one turns up?
So supporters associations please cut the crap about protests and waving virus filled hankies!
We are supporters and customers and the players have a new boss and he and us expect them to perform and to deliver a win every game .
I think MAuricio is good news for SFC
COYR.
three halves
says...
10:11pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Velleity wrote:So you work at the echo with your knowledge about when people put comments on here,no suprise there with the attitude you show to people which i find rather sad.
slugger wrote:He popped up seven days ago.
three halves wrote:Who are you ? , never seen you around these parts before .
Baddesley Bill wrote:I wasent speaking to you obviously if you care to look.
three halves wrote:Will do! COYR :O)
St Forlife wrote:Enjoy the game and support the dictator and the way the club is heading.
SFCOLDBOY wrote:Nice one - I'll be there!
St Forlife wrote:Go!
Sleeping on this it seems to me that the timing was all about the fear of Nigel becoming a success. He clearly had given the nod to the new guy (can't even remember his namio without going back to look it up) because he has bee 'studying' the players for a matter of weeks - so it has been in the bag behind Nigel's back.
The fear was starting to grow with Cortese that he had a very good manager under him - but there is something non-football going on here!! The longer he left it the higher up the table Saints would be - Cortese didn't want that.
Cortese is about himself - his ego in achieving something - Southampton FC is just a product. he will think he's doing it for the club but he is doing it for himself.
I like one or two others on here are toiling with the decision to go on Monday. Being there makes me feel party to everything and the force behind the blade in his back. But I will always be a Saint - what a conundrum - I have a 40 mile each way trip to each match - kind hope the snow keeps falling and makes the decision for me!!
Support our team.
Thats what we do,lets show our appreciation of Nigel,show our discust at the way he was deposed, then move on.
The players need our possitivity.
Did you see that?
There's little bit of Nigel left in all of us.
COYS
He posted this little beauty yesterday morning:
--------
three halves says...
10:11am Fri 18 Jan 13
If there is a change of manager on the horizon at least get someone who is proven at the top level and not a foreigner no one has heard off.
---------
Interesting that at that point there was no statement that NA must not go, just concern about who would replace him. No deep principle, just a normal, straightforward comment. I only noticed it because I'd never seen the poster's name before.
I mention it just because we seem to be hearing from plenty of people who didn't give a toss about NA (even some who wanted him to go, even some who wanted him to go last season for being tactically naive) but who are now ready to bomb the management suite at St Mary's over NA's departure. No names, no pack drill but there's a lot of it about.
I stress, I hate the fact that Nigel's gone: he was a breath of fresh air in a dirty industry. I suspect he'll end up proving to be a great manager. I took a great deal of slating for supporting him through thick and thin. But he's gone. All that's consistent in this is the *team* and they will have my unconditional support on Monday (and for all games).
The hypocrisy and amateur dramatics on here from some posters is a bit overwhelming.
Baddesley Bill
says...
10:18pm Sat 19 Jan 13
three halves wrote:It's actually very easy to look back on previous comments...
Velleity wrote:So you work at the echo with your knowledge about when people put comments on here,no suprise there with the attitude you show to people which i find rather sad.
slugger wrote:He popped up seven days ago.
three halves wrote:Who are you ? , never seen you around these parts before .
Baddesley Bill wrote:I wasent speaking to you obviously if you care to look.
three halves wrote:Will do! COYR :O)
St Forlife wrote:Enjoy the game and support the dictator and the way the club is heading.
SFCOLDBOY wrote:Nice one - I'll be there!
St Forlife wrote:Go!
Sleeping on this it seems to me that the timing was all about the fear of Nigel becoming a success. He clearly had given the nod to the new guy (can't even remember his namio without going back to look it up) because he has bee 'studying' the players for a matter of weeks - so it has been in the bag behind Nigel's back.
The fear was starting to grow with Cortese that he had a very good manager under him - but there is something non-football going on here!! The longer he left it the higher up the table Saints would be - Cortese didn't want that.
Cortese is about himself - his ego in achieving something - Southampton FC is just a product. he will think he's doing it for the club but he is doing it for himself.
I like one or two others on here are toiling with the decision to go on Monday. Being there makes me feel party to everything and the force behind the blade in his back. But I will always be a Saint - what a conundrum - I have a 40 mile each way trip to each match - kind hope the snow keeps falling and makes the decision for me!!
Support our team.
Thats what we do,lets show our appreciation of Nigel,show our discust at the way he was deposed, then move on.
The players need our possitivity.
Did you see that?
There's little bit of Nigel left in all of us.
COYS
He posted this little beauty yesterday morning:
--------
three halves says...
10:11am Fri 18 Jan 13
If there is a change of manager on the horizon at least get someone who is proven at the top level and not a foreigner no one has heard off.
---------
Interesting that at that point there was no statement that NA must not go, just concern about who would replace him. No deep principle, just a normal, straightforward comment. I only noticed it because I'd never seen the poster's name before.
I mention it just because we seem to be hearing from plenty of people who didn't give a toss about NA (even some who wanted him to go, even some who wanted him to go last season for being tactically naive) but who are now ready to bomb the management suite at St Mary's over NA's departure. No names, no pack drill but there's a lot of it about.
I stress, I hate the fact that Nigel's gone: he was a breath of fresh air in a dirty industry. I suspect he'll end up proving to be a great manager. I took a great deal of slating for supporting him through thick and thin. But he's gone. All that's consistent in this is the *team* and they will have my unconditional support on Monday (and for all games).
The hypocrisy and amateur dramatics on here from some posters is a bit overwhelming.
..but I guess you haven't worked that out yet.
ghk230473
says...
10:38pm Sat 19 Jan 13
warrens 76 wrote:Warrens, read posts again properly before commenting.
slugger wrote:GHK, you are taking this way to far...seriously Cortese=Saville are you insane..we are all upset but ffs get some perspective..
ghk ..... who's blood ? , don't be such a drama queen ! lol
Baddesley Bill
says...
10:47pm Sat 19 Jan 13
ghk230473 wrote:ghk. You have a particular issue with one poster here. Give it a rest mate.
three halves wrote:No he's the forum police, but he has a selective memory, depends whose ar5e he has his tongue up!
Velleity wrote:So you work at the echo with your knowledge about when people put comments on here,no suprise there with the attitude you show to people which i find rather sad.
slugger wrote:He popped up seven days ago.
three halves wrote:Who are you ? , never seen you around these parts before .
Baddesley Bill wrote:I wasent speaking to you obviously if you care to look.
three halves wrote:Will do! COYR :O)
St Forlife wrote:Enjoy the game and support the dictator and the way the club is heading.
SFCOLDBOY wrote:Nice one - I'll be there!
St Forlife wrote:Go!
Sleeping on this it seems to me that the timing was all about the fear of Nigel becoming a success. He clearly had given the nod to the new guy (can't even remember his namio without going back to look it up) because he has bee 'studying' the players for a matter of weeks - so it has been in the bag behind Nigel's back.
The fear was starting to grow with Cortese that he had a very good manager under him - but there is something non-football going on here!! The longer he left it the higher up the table Saints would be - Cortese didn't want that.
Cortese is about himself - his ego in achieving something - Southampton FC is just a product. he will think he's doing it for the club but he is doing it for himself.
I like one or two others on here are toiling with the decision to go on Monday. Being there makes me feel party to everything and the force behind the blade in his back. But I will always be a Saint - what a conundrum - I have a 40 mile each way trip to each match - kind hope the snow keeps falling and makes the decision for me!!
Support our team.
Thats what we do,lets show our appreciation of Nigel,show our discust at the way he was deposed, then move on.
The players need our possitivity.
Did you see that?
There's little bit of Nigel left in all of us.
COYS
He posted this little beauty yesterday morning:
--------
three halves says...
10:11am Fri 18 Jan 13
If there is a change of manager on the horizon at least get someone who is proven at the top level and not a foreigner no one has heard off.
---------
Interesting that at that point there was no statement that NA must not go, just concern about who would replace him. No deep principle, just a normal, straightforward comment. I only noticed it because I'd never seen the poster's name before.
I mention it just because we seem to be hearing from plenty of people who didn't give a toss about NA (even some who wanted him to go, even some who wanted him to go last season for being tactically naive) but who are now ready to bomb the management suite at St Mary's over NA's departure. No names, no pack drill but there's a lot of it about.
I stress, I hate the fact that Nigel's gone: he was a breath of fresh air in a dirty industry. I suspect he'll end up proving to be a great manager. I took a great deal of slating for supporting him through thick and thin. But he's gone. All that's consistent in this is the *team* and they will have my unconditional support on Monday (and for all games).
The hypocrisy and amateur dramatics on here from some posters is a bit overwhelming.
Velleity
says...
11:08pm Sat 19 Jan 13
three halves wrote:No, I don't work at the Echo - I just know how to use Google.
Velleity wrote:So you work at the echo with your knowledge about when people put comments on here,no suprise there with the attitude you show to people which i find rather sad.
slugger wrote:He popped up seven days ago.
three halves wrote:Who are you ? , never seen you around these parts before .
Baddesley Bill wrote:I wasent speaking to you obviously if you care to look.
three halves wrote:Will do! COYR :O)
St Forlife wrote:Enjoy the game and support the dictator and the way the club is heading.
SFCOLDBOY wrote:Nice one - I'll be there!
St Forlife wrote:Go!
Sleeping on this it seems to me that the timing was all about the fear of Nigel becoming a success. He clearly had given the nod to the new guy (can't even remember his namio without going back to look it up) because he has bee 'studying' the players for a matter of weeks - so it has been in the bag behind Nigel's back.
The fear was starting to grow with Cortese that he had a very good manager under him - but there is something non-football going on here!! The longer he left it the higher up the table Saints would be - Cortese didn't want that.
Cortese is about himself - his ego in achieving something - Southampton FC is just a product. he will think he's doing it for the club but he is doing it for himself.
I like one or two others on here are toiling with the decision to go on Monday. Being there makes me feel party to everything and the force behind the blade in his back. But I will always be a Saint - what a conundrum - I have a 40 mile each way trip to each match - kind hope the snow keeps falling and makes the decision for me!!
Support our team.
Thats what we do,lets show our appreciation of Nigel,show our discust at the way he was deposed, then move on.
The players need our possitivity.
Did you see that?
There's little bit of Nigel left in all of us.
COYS
He posted this little beauty yesterday morning:
--------
three halves says...
10:11am Fri 18 Jan 13
If there is a change of manager on the horizon at least get someone who is proven at the top level and not a foreigner no one has heard off.
---------
Interesting that at that point there was no statement that NA must not go, just concern about who would replace him. No deep principle, just a normal, straightforward comment. I only noticed it because I'd never seen the poster's name before.
I mention it just because we seem to be hearing from plenty of people who didn't give a toss about NA (even some who wanted him to go, even some who wanted him to go last season for being tactically naive) but who are now ready to bomb the management suite at St Mary's over NA's departure. No names, no pack drill but there's a lot of it about.
I stress, I hate the fact that Nigel's gone: he was a breath of fresh air in a dirty industry. I suspect he'll end up proving to be a great manager. I took a great deal of slating for supporting him through thick and thin. But he's gone. All that's consistent in this is the *team* and they will have my unconditional support on Monday (and for all games).
The hypocrisy and amateur dramatics on here from some posters is a bit overwhelming.
Anyway, I was only using you as an example of someone who posted one thing before NA went and have become a fervent supporter of his overnight.
There are dozens like you; as I say, you're only an example to highlight the hysteria.
Velleity
says...
11:11pm Sat 19 Jan 13
ghk230473 wrote:GHK, not going to quote endlessly but I note your repsonse above is yet another post about me personally rather than any response to the content of my post. The trend continues.
three halves wrote:No he's the forum police, but he has a selective memory, depends whose ar5e he has his tongue up!
Velleity wrote:So you work at the echo with your knowledge about when people put comments on here,no suprise there with the attitude you show to people which i find rather sad.
slugger wrote:He popped up seven days ago.
three halves wrote:Who are you ? , never seen you around these parts before .
Baddesley Bill wrote:I wasent speaking to you obviously if you care to look.
three halves wrote:Will do! COYR :O)
St Forlife wrote:Enjoy the game and support the dictator and the way the club is heading.
SFCOLDBOY wrote:Nice one - I'll be there!
St Forlife wrote:Go!
Sleeping on this it seems to me that the timing was all about the fear of Nigel becoming a success. He clearly had given the nod to the new guy (can't even remember his namio without going back to look it up) because he has bee 'studying' the players for a matter of weeks - so it has been in the bag behind Nigel's back.
The fear was starting to grow with Cortese that he had a very good manager under him - but there is something non-football going on here!! The longer he left it the higher up the table Saints would be - Cortese didn't want that.
Cortese is about himself - his ego in achieving something - Southampton FC is just a product. he will think he's doing it for the club but he is doing it for himself.
I like one or two others on here are toiling with the decision to go on Monday. Being there makes me feel party to everything and the force behind the blade in his back. But I will always be a Saint - what a conundrum - I have a 40 mile each way trip to each match - kind hope the snow keeps falling and makes the decision for me!!
Support our team.
Thats what we do,lets show our appreciation of Nigel,show our discust at the way he was deposed, then move on.
The players need our possitivity.
Did you see that?
There's little bit of Nigel left in all of us.
COYS
He posted this little beauty yesterday morning:
--------
three halves says...
10:11am Fri 18 Jan 13
If there is a change of manager on the horizon at least get someone who is proven at the top level and not a foreigner no one has heard off.
---------
Interesting that at that point there was no statement that NA must not go, just concern about who would replace him. No deep principle, just a normal, straightforward comment. I only noticed it because I'd never seen the poster's name before.
I mention it just because we seem to be hearing from plenty of people who didn't give a toss about NA (even some who wanted him to go, even some who wanted him to go last season for being tactically naive) but who are now ready to bomb the management suite at St Mary's over NA's departure. No names, no pack drill but there's a lot of it about.
I stress, I hate the fact that Nigel's gone: he was a breath of fresh air in a dirty industry. I suspect he'll end up proving to be a great manager. I took a great deal of slating for supporting him through thick and thin. But he's gone. All that's consistent in this is the *team* and they will have my unconditional support on Monday (and for all games).
The hypocrisy and amateur dramatics on here from some posters is a bit overwhelming.
Velleity
says...
11:13pm Sat 19 Jan 13
GHK, not going to quote endlessly but I note your response above is yet another post about me personally rather than any discussion of the content of my post. The trend continues.
ghk230473
says...
11:30pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Baddesley Bill wrote:Not an issue, just like to see a bit of continuity. Funny, some on here like to lord it over others but can't take back, and you sticking up for him does him no favours.
ghk230473 wrote:ghk. You have a particular issue with one poster here. Give it a rest mate.
three halves wrote:No he's the forum police, but he has a selective memory, depends whose ar5e he has his tongue up!
Velleity wrote:So you work at the echo with your knowledge about when people put comments on here,no suprise there with the attitude you show to people which i find rather sad.
slugger wrote:He popped up seven days ago.
three halves wrote:Who are you ? , never seen you around these parts before .
Baddesley Bill wrote:I wasent speaking to you obviously if you care to look.
three halves wrote:Will do! COYR :O)
St Forlife wrote:Enjoy the game and support the dictator and the way the club is heading.
SFCOLDBOY wrote:Nice one - I'll be there!
St Forlife wrote:Go!
Sleeping on this it seems to me that the timing was all about the fear of Nigel becoming a success. He clearly had given the nod to the new guy (can't even remember his namio without going back to look it up) because he has bee 'studying' the players for a matter of weeks - so it has been in the bag behind Nigel's back.
The fear was starting to grow with Cortese that he had a very good manager under him - but there is something non-football going on here!! The longer he left it the higher up the table Saints would be - Cortese didn't want that.
Cortese is about himself - his ego in achieving something - Southampton FC is just a product. he will think he's doing it for the club but he is doing it for himself.
I like one or two others on here are toiling with the decision to go on Monday. Being there makes me feel party to everything and the force behind the blade in his back. But I will always be a Saint - what a conundrum - I have a 40 mile each way trip to each match - kind hope the snow keeps falling and makes the decision for me!!
Support our team.
Thats what we do,lets show our appreciation of Nigel,show our discust at the way he was deposed, then move on.
The players need our possitivity.
Did you see that?
There's little bit of Nigel left in all of us.
COYS
He posted this little beauty yesterday morning:
--------
three halves says...
10:11am Fri 18 Jan 13
If there is a change of manager on the horizon at least get someone who is proven at the top level and not a foreigner no one has heard off.
---------
Interesting that at that point there was no statement that NA must not go, just concern about who would replace him. No deep principle, just a normal, straightforward comment. I only noticed it because I'd never seen the poster's name before.
I mention it just because we seem to be hearing from plenty of people who didn't give a toss about NA (even some who wanted him to go, even some who wanted him to go last season for being tactically naive) but who are now ready to bomb the management suite at St Mary's over NA's departure. No names, no pack drill but there's a lot of it about.
I stress, I hate the fact that Nigel's gone: he was a breath of fresh air in a dirty industry. I suspect he'll end up proving to be a great manager. I took a great deal of slating for supporting him through thick and thin. But he's gone. All that's consistent in this is the *team* and they will have my unconditional support on Monday (and for all games).
The hypocrisy and amateur dramatics on here from some posters is a bit overwhelming.
You may have won the bet but were wrong, I predicted this a year ago. A good supporter you may well be, but in the long run failing to admit that cortese is a wrong un will do the club no favours, history proves it.
megacycle
says...
1:26am Sun 20 Jan 13
TEBOURBA
says...
3:05am Sun 20 Jan 13
I should have known a leopard doesn't change its spots and he is a shyster through and through.
He has no respect for others, he didn't even have the guts to attend the press conference, heralding the new manager.
No doubt he has done a confidentiality deal with Nigel like he did with AP preventing Nigel from spilling the beans on what an out and out shyster NC is.
I hope Nigel takes him to the cleaners.
If they made a Godfather 4, NC could walk in to the part of Michael Corleone play himself and get an Oscar!
Men like LMcM, Fergie, LeTiss, who know the game inside out, know what they are talking about, as do 95% of Saints fans.
Saints may be successful under NC but at what price? --- he has blackened the name of a great club, dragging it through his own personal cesspit.
Respect and loyalty has been earned by the likes of LMcM, Fergie, LeTiss and Nigel Adkins, the latter an example to all, of honesty, modesty, experience
and skill -- a genuine good bloke and a successful manager -- a rare combination -- who Saints fans would have been proud to have at the helm for years to come.
I wish Nigel all the success in the world, I will follow his fortunes avidly as no doubt the supporters of SUFC have done since he left them.
I hope Cortese reaps what he sows.
I expect Terry Paine to resign his position as Honorary President in protest, if he doesn't he will be seen as supporting and condoning a shyster and Terry's own great reputation, certainly among the Saints supporters who cheered him on in his heyday at the Dell, will be eroded bit by bit until it no longer exists.
warrens 76
says...
6:31am Sun 20 Jan 13
TEBOURBA wrote:Don't forget solent interiors!
I thought the spirits of Christmas had visited NC and he had reformed, particularly, when he appointed Terry Paine, as Honorary President.
I should have known a leopard doesn't change its spots and he is a shyster through and through.
He has no respect for others, he didn't even have the guts to attend the press conference, heralding the new manager.
No doubt he has done a confidentiality deal with Nigel like he did with AP preventing Nigel from spilling the beans on what an out and out shyster NC is.
I hope Nigel takes him to the cleaners.
If they made a Godfather 4, NC could walk in to the part of Michael Corleone play himself and get an Oscar!
Men like LMcM, Fergie, LeTiss, who know the game inside out, know what they are talking about, as do 95% of Saints fans.
Saints may be successful under NC but at what price? --- he has blackened the name of a great club, dragging it through his own personal cesspit.
Respect and loyalty has been earned by the likes of LMcM, Fergie, LeTiss and Nigel Adkins, the latter an example to all, of honesty, modesty, experience
and skill -- a genuine good bloke and a successful manager -- a rare combination -- who Saints fans would have been proud to have at the helm for years to come.
I wish Nigel all the success in the world, I will follow his fortunes avidly as no doubt the supporters of SUFC have done since he left them.
I hope Cortese reaps what he sows.
I expect Terry Paine to resign his position as Honorary President in protest, if he doesn't he will be seen as supporting and condoning a shyster and Terry's own great reputation, certainly among the Saints supporters who cheered him on in his heyday at the Dell, will be eroded bit by bit until it no longer exists.
Dubai-saints89
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7:37am Sun 20 Jan 13
SFC-1982
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8:17am Sun 20 Jan 13
poshdave wrote:Completely deluded.
Can't believe how ruthless NA's sacking has been, I'm embarrassed about all of it..................
..... NC was defo right about Pardew, but even if it proves not to be devastating to the club appointing Pocy, for me my support will always feel a bit tainted now while we still have NC........ of course I want us to be successful, but doing things in the right way makes you enjoy the success that much more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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as for NA being linked to Blackpool I feel embarrassed that's he's been linked with them...........he should be well out their league..............
....and finally we have to remember it's us the supporters that own the club..........people coming in with the money are just the custodians for a while...............
.....we are the football club and people on the board and NC must remember what we think and what we care about really does matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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SaintinCanada
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8:43am Sun 20 Jan 13
TEBOURBA wrote:Tebourba Way - like the road between Maybush and Shirley.
I thought the spirits of Christmas had visited NC and he had reformed, particularly, when he appointed Terry Paine, as Honorary President.
I should have known a leopard doesn't change its spots and he is a shyster through and through.
He has no respect for others, he didn't even have the guts to attend the press conference, heralding the new manager.
No doubt he has done a confidentiality deal with Nigel like he did with AP preventing Nigel from spilling the beans on what an out and out shyster NC is.
I hope Nigel takes him to the cleaners.
If they made a Godfather 4, NC could walk in to the part of Michael Corleone play himself and get an Oscar!
Men like LMcM, Fergie, LeTiss, who know the game inside out, know what they are talking about, as do 95% of Saints fans.
Saints may be successful under NC but at what price? --- he has blackened the name of a great club, dragging it through his own personal cesspit.
Respect and loyalty has been earned by the likes of LMcM, Fergie, LeTiss and Nigel Adkins, the latter an example to all, of honesty, modesty, experience
and skill -- a genuine good bloke and a successful manager -- a rare combination -- who Saints fans would have been proud to have at the helm for years to come.
I wish Nigel all the success in the world, I will follow his fortunes avidly as no doubt the supporters of SUFC have done since he left them.
I hope Cortese reaps what he sows.
I expect Terry Paine to resign his position as Honorary President in protest, if he doesn't he will be seen as supporting and condoning a shyster and Terry's own great reputation, certainly among the Saints supporters who cheered him on in his heyday at the Dell, will be eroded bit by bit until it no longer exists.
"THE LIGHTS ARE ON......
.....BUT NOBODY'S HOME"
callcopse
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9:35am Sun 20 Jan 13
I'll go with stupid (see you next Tuesday) whilst reserving my right to change my mind.
three halves
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10:49am Sun 20 Jan 13
Velleity wrote:If you read my post that you have quoted it is quite obvious to anybody what it means.
three halves wrote:No, I don't work at the Echo - I just know how to use Google.
Velleity wrote:So you work at the echo with your knowledge about when people put comments on here,no suprise there with the attitude you show to people which i find rather sad.
slugger wrote:He popped up seven days ago.
three halves wrote:Who are you ? , never seen you around these parts before .
Baddesley Bill wrote:I wasent speaking to you obviously if you care to look.
three halves wrote:Will do! COYR :O)
St Forlife wrote:Enjoy the game and support the dictator and the way the club is heading.
SFCOLDBOY wrote:Nice one - I'll be there!
St Forlife wrote:Go!
Sleeping on this it seems to me that the timing was all about the fear of Nigel becoming a success. He clearly had given the nod to the new guy (can't even remember his namio without going back to look it up) because he has bee 'studying' the players for a matter of weeks - so it has been in the bag behind Nigel's back.
The fear was starting to grow with Cortese that he had a very good manager under him - but there is something non-football going on here!! The longer he left it the higher up the table Saints would be - Cortese didn't want that.
Cortese is about himself - his ego in achieving something - Southampton FC is just a product. he will think he's doing it for the club but he is doing it for himself.
I like one or two others on here are toiling with the decision to go on Monday. Being there makes me feel party to everything and the force behind the blade in his back. But I will always be a Saint - what a conundrum - I have a 40 mile each way trip to each match - kind hope the snow keeps falling and makes the decision for me!!
Support our team.
Thats what we do,lets show our appreciation of Nigel,show our discust at the way he was deposed, then move on.
The players need our possitivity.
Did you see that?
There's little bit of Nigel left in all of us.
COYS
He posted this little beauty yesterday morning:
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three halves says...
10:11am Fri 18 Jan 13
If there is a change of manager on the horizon at least get someone who is proven at the top level and not a foreigner no one has heard off.
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Interesting that at that point there was no statement that NA must not go, just concern about who would replace him. No deep principle, just a normal, straightforward comment. I only noticed it because I'd never seen the poster's name before.
I mention it just because we seem to be hearing from plenty of people who didn't give a toss about NA (even some who wanted him to go, even some who wanted him to go last season for being tactically naive) but who are now ready to bomb the management suite at St Mary's over NA's departure. No names, no pack drill but there's a lot of it about.
I stress, I hate the fact that Nigel's gone: he was a breath of fresh air in a dirty industry. I suspect he'll end up proving to be a great manager. I took a great deal of slating for supporting him through thick and thin. But he's gone. All that's consistent in this is the *team* and they will have my unconditional support on Monday (and for all games).
The hypocrisy and amateur dramatics on here from some posters is a bit overwhelming.
Anyway, I was only using you as an example of someone who posted one thing before NA went and have become a fervent supporter of his overnight.
There are dozens like you; as I say, you're only an example to highlight the hysteria.
I said if NA were to go at least get in manager proven at the top level and not a foreigner no one has heard off.
That is exactly what has happened and why myself and many others are angry
oldboy67
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10:53am Sun 20 Jan 13
George4th
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12:35pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Look around you, how many TOP English managers/coaches do you see? Hardly any! Why? Because those magnificent men who coached/managed in the past forgot to keep up with the times!!
MiltonRoad
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2:05pm Sun 20 Jan 13
El Santo wrote:Agree 100% with this. All the 'NC know's what he is doing' comments miss the point. He has no respect for the history of our club and, worst of all, no respect for the fans. What next - merge with Poopey and rellocate the stadium to Fareham? Would that be OK? Would all you "NC know's what he's doing' supporters still be saying the same thing then?
three halves wrote:I agree. Following a club is not about winning it's about feeling a connection with the team, with the players, the manager, the chairman... it is important to know that certain things are respected and sacking NA in this way shows that Cortese doesn't give 2 sh1ts about the fans and that he is recklessly gambling our future as a club.
SaintMax wrote:The way this business has been conducted disgusts me and im more angry now than yesterday.
insane saint wrote:You will come back.
three halves wrote:r u avin a laff
Times like these call for extreme measures,my season ticket and saints shirt are going in the bin and from this moment i am going to support pompey.
TOGETHER AS ONE!!! RED ARRMY..!
Ooh, a little red army came over me all of a sudden..
Even the more critical of NA like myself have been won over by him over the last ten or so games so knowing what was going on behind his back has done it for me.
I know fans will all have different opinions but to blindly follow the club whatever happens is not for me.
The gamble may work, yes, but the reputation of out club will forever be damaged.
We all want success and maybe this new guy will bring it. But this is the wrong time and the wrong way to do it. NA has achieved miracles and deserves much better. The fans love him. It seems the players were behind him and the performances on the pitch were improving. This decision was wrong and the way it was done was worse. I fear this is the beginning of a downward spiral - relegation, fans revolt, Cortese getting pi**ed off and leaving, return to financial meltdown. A sad, sad, day in the history of SFC.
holm resident
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7:23pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Lets just thank adkins wish him all the best in the future. He is a good man with a really good foreseeable future.
Lets show our appreciation for adkins at the begining of tomorrows game the n get behind our new manager move on and hope n . c has made the right decision cause he has so far even though we question them at the time

three halves says...
11:19am Sat 19 Jan 13