Adkins set for Blackpool? (From Daily Echo)

mbetts wrote:
Working for another crazy chairman might be worth him holding out for a slightly more stable job

JohnItaly wrote:
If NA does join Blackpool he will be sure of a warm welcome when his team visit St Marys next season!

Velleity wrote:

JohnItaly wrote:
If NA does join Blackpool he will be sure of a warm welcome when his team visit St Marys next season!

So you think he'll get them promoted, too?

buster gutt wrote:
NO BOOING THE NEW MANAGER PLEASE !!!!!! He's only been offered a new job and accepted it we would do the same so support the team and the new manager it' what Nigel would want.No to discourage the team We miss Nigel we have played our best football under him and say a heartfelt thank you !!!!!! but we must move on what is done is done

costa gaz wrote:
Nigel Adkins is far too good for Blackpool...
Have a holiday and take your time, the right job will come to you eventually.
Best of luck.

abbiscuits wrote:
juan forlin, the argentine centre half that plays for espanyol is being flown over to southampton next week and is expected to sighn a four year deal, he is 25 and played over a hundred and fifty games foe espanyol since mauricio pochettino signed him from newel old boys at the start of his espanyol reighn, and sees him as a relyable everpresent in the back line and the much needed steal that has been missing from the heart of the southampton deafence, he has only 6 months left on his current contract and espanyol could cash in on him now rather than loose him for nothing when the season ends

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

buster gutt wrote:
NO BOOING THE NEW MANAGER PLEASE !!!!!! He's only been offered a new job and accepted it we would do the same so support the team and the new manager it' what Nigel would want.No to discourage the team We miss Nigel we have played our best football under him and say a heartfelt thank you !!!!!! but we must move on what is done is done

here here, maybe one song for Nigel out of respect then it's back to cheering the team on for me.
coyr

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

buster gutt wrote:
NO BOOING THE NEW MANAGER PLEASE !!!!!! He's only been offered a new job and accepted it we would do the same so support the team and the new manager it' what Nigel would want.No to discourage the team We miss Nigel we have played our best football under him and say a heartfelt thank you !!!!!! but we must move on what is done is done

here here, maybe one song for Nigel out of respect then it's back to cheering the team on for me.
coyr

Sainthicks wrote:
Odds on Nigel replacing Alan Pardew for a second time????????

Sainthicks wrote:
Odds on Nigel replacing Alan Pardew for a second time????????

saintsupnorth wrote:
more news on NA that may concern us, is that Villa may well sack Lambert if results do not go there way. There main target to replace him is NA.

upwherewebelong wrote:

saintsupnorth wrote:
more news on NA that may concern us, is that Villa may well sack Lambert if results do not go there way. There main target to replace him is NA.

I think you now have the record for posting the most unsubstantiated rumours over a 24 hour period. I think you need to calm down a little bit and start dealing in facts not fiction. Either that or start writing fiction books

SaintMax wrote:
Why are people surprised that MP has been involved in transfer dealings for weeks and getting involved.
This isn't underhand, or back stabbing this is called a transition and in the best interests of minimul disruption.
Ok, sacking NA is pretty disruptive, but is NC going to persevere for the sake of being nice to Nige?
Good luck Nigel, I actually became very fond of you, but good luck, onward and upward, bring on the toffees!! (Stupid name...)

MGRA wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Why are people surprised that MP has been involved in transfer dealings for weeks and getting involved.
This isn't underhand, or back stabbing this is called a transition and in the best interests of minimul disruption.
Ok, sacking NA is pretty disruptive, but is NC going to persevere for the sake of being nice to Nige?
Good luck Nigel, I actually became very fond of you, but good luck, onward and upward, bring on the toffees!! (Stupid name...)

It is underhand, it is backstabbing and its not a transition. Its the most shabby incident in our clubs history. Total disgrace. But thats water under the bridge, cheer for the team, the new manager and be prepared to stay for 30 minutes after the game if we loose booing Nicola Cortese... its really that simple !

dadofmy3sons wrote:
How many English lessons has Mauricio had while studying the Saints squad?
He does need to learn quickly.
Nearly all football pundits and fans are saying that sacking Nigel is an own goal of immense proportions, and absolutely nobody has anything good to say about our chairman.
Backs to the wall again, nobody likes us.
Isn't this the accusation we made against Pompey? Their fans "allowed" their club to go crooked. Have we allowed our chairman to be a little monster?
I will support the Saints always, but sometimes I have to wonder what I will allow MY club to get away with.

MGRA wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Why are people surprised that MP has been involved in transfer dealings for weeks and getting involved.
This isn't underhand, or back stabbing this is called a transition and in the best interests of minimul disruption.
Ok, sacking NA is pretty disruptive, but is NC going to persevere for the sake of being nice to Nige?
Good luck Nigel, I actually became very fond of you, but good luck, onward and upward, bring on the toffees!! (Stupid name...)

It is underhand, it is backstabbing and its not a transition. Its the most shabby incident in our clubs history. Total disgrace. But thats water under the bridge, cheer for the team, the new manager and be prepared to stay for 30 minutes after the game if we loose booing Nicola Cortese... its really that simple !

upwherewebelong wrote:
I've calmed down even more throughout the day but I am still saddened that NC thought his conduct was acceptable. I've taken on board the dozens of posts stating protesting at the game is counterproductive. So instead although we can't change whats happened I suggest EVERY fan that feels hurt/angry/disappoin

ted in NC's conduct e-mails the club to register their views. That way people won't disrupt the team but the club will be left in NO DOUBT how people feel. Equally those in favour of the action taken could do the same.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

MGRA wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Why are people surprised that MP has been involved in transfer dealings for weeks and getting involved.
This isn't underhand, or back stabbing this is called a transition and in the best interests of minimul disruption.
Ok, sacking NA is pretty disruptive, but is NC going to persevere for the sake of being nice to Nige?
Good luck Nigel, I actually became very fond of you, but good luck, onward and upward, bring on the toffees!! (Stupid name...)

It is underhand, it is backstabbing and its not a transition. Its the most shabby incident in our clubs history. Total disgrace. But thats water under the bridge, cheer for the team, the new manager and be prepared to stay for 30 minutes after the game if we loose booing Nicola Cortese... its really that simple !

Oh come on MGRA, the chances of any of the Plastics being there 5 minutes before then end is unlikely! Let alone 30 minutes after....

SaintMax wrote:

MGRA wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Why are people surprised that MP has been involved in transfer dealings for weeks and getting involved.
This isn't underhand, or back stabbing this is called a transition and in the best interests of minimul disruption.
Ok, sacking NA is pretty disruptive, but is NC going to persevere for the sake of being nice to Nige?
Good luck Nigel, I actually became very fond of you, but good luck, onward and upward, bring on the toffees!! (Stupid name...)

It is underhand, it is backstabbing and its not a transition. Its the most shabby incident in our clubs history. Total disgrace. But thats water under the bridge, cheer for the team, the new manager and be prepared to stay for 30 minutes after the game if we loose booing Nicola Cortese... its really that simple !

Stay behind and boo for 30 mins if we lose? You can't change what's happened, I bet you said the same when Pardew was sacked, then started to cheer up and clap when our next progressional Manager in post got results.
Sometimes MGRA I think you post pretty insightful posts, other times.. I don't.
I've heard Everton are wanting to take advantage of fans who want to air their displeasure. We have to go onwards and upwards together, or like Chelsea, boo are team into losing at home.

El Santo wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
How many English lessons has Mauricio had while studying the Saints squad?
He does need to learn quickly.
Nearly all football pundits and fans are saying that sacking Nigel is an own goal of immense proportions, and absolutely nobody has anything good to say about our chairman.
Backs to the wall again, nobody likes us.
Isn't this the accusation we made against Pompey? Their fans "allowed" their club to go crooked. Have we allowed our chairman to be a little monster?
I will support the Saints always, but sometimes I have to wonder what I will allow MY club to get away with.

Good point.
Long when Nicola has gone, long when the last player has gone... we the fans will still be there!
We are the TEAM! We should decide, not how we play, but at least how we treat our people. We should decide on the "personality" of the team.
Still... I don't think that booing people on Monday will help. Other option may be there (a nice farewell chanting to NA, for example)

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whether you think Cortese was right or wrong he has undoubtable split the fans and that cannot be a good thing.

i t phobe wrote:
"burn my ticket" "never set foot" "boycott" "thats me done" "ashamed to be a saints fan" i understand the sentiments only one problem, massive game monday. lose and this club could start to implode.but to be honest we need to start beating the evertons at home if were going to stay up.na ex keeper no. one so we sing his name loud and proud 1st minute 1st half 1st minute 2nd half.but after that we have to get behind the lads and yes, pinochio as well cos hes all weve got.think qpr will start picking up regular points with remy and reading after that fantastic if heartbreaking win last week so its a dog fight now but our d n a comes back as dog fight specialists.too much negativity and were dead.having said that "doesnt speak english" cortese you are such a knob. coys.

mack chinnon wrote:
Today I feel like I support a different Southampton F.C.

Confucious wrote:

abbiscuits wrote:
juan forlin, the argentine centre half that plays for espanyol is being flown over to southampton next week and is expected to sighn a four year deal, he is 25 and played over a hundred and fifty games foe espanyol since mauricio pochettino signed him from newel old boys at the start of his espanyol reighn, and sees him as a relyable everpresent in the back line and the much needed steal that has been missing from the heart of the southampton deafence, he has only 6 months left on his current contract and espanyol could cash in on him now rather than loose him for nothing when the season ends

Wait a minute
Gee that's better
While I've been pining
He's been signing
Once he brings 'em in
My old posts can go in the bin
And I'll be clapping Nicola on his excellent timing.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whether you think Cortese was right or wrong he has undoubtable split the fans and that cannot be a good thing.

Which is why we are trying to pull them together again, we will need all of their support on Monday, not their personal grievances!

MGRA wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

MGRA wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Why are people surprised that MP has been involved in transfer dealings for weeks and getting involved.
This isn't underhand, or back stabbing this is called a transition and in the best interests of minimul disruption.
Ok, sacking NA is pretty disruptive, but is NC going to persevere for the sake of being nice to Nige?
Good luck Nigel, I actually became very fond of you, but good luck, onward and upward, bring on the toffees!! (Stupid name...)

It is underhand, it is backstabbing and its not a transition. Its the most shabby incident in our clubs history. Total disgrace. But thats water under the bridge, cheer for the team, the new manager and be prepared to stay for 30 minutes after the game if we loose booing Nicola Cortese... its really that simple !

Oh come on MGRA, the chances of any of the Plastics being there 5 minutes before then end is unlikely! Let alone 30 minutes after....

not sure this time... NC has stained the club and many life-long fans are questioning the point of it all.. Look at the results today, momentum is everything, if NC has destroyed that just to install a toy-boy buddy then I predict real hatred on a grand scale. I am not saying I support that, in fact I actually don't... But the anger I have experienced in the last 24 hours is quite extraordinary. No real supporter will hold a grudge against MP, even those that think accepting a job weeks in advance like he did in the those circumstances is "dirty pool", so he will be fine, as will our superb squad of players... But NC is another matter, thousands of supporters now want rid of him and, again, I am not one of them. I want him to stay funnily enough, and although a huge coward for letting MP face the cameras alone , we must remember Italians are stereotyped for having tanks with 4 reverse gears and 1 forward gear incase they are attacked from behind.... ;0)

saintshorse101 wrote:
Nigel you did wonders for us and you will do the same for any other club lucky enough to get you. if you do go to blackpool how about doing a favor to your old fans and sell us ince, you can have guly and/or chappers in part ex!
not happy with whats been done or how its been done but its done and we have to move on, lets support the team and manager.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whether you think Cortese was right or wrong he has undoubtable split the fans and that cannot be a good thing.

Which is why we are trying to pull them together again, we will need all of their support on Monday, not their personal grievances!

Are you another one that believes Cortese can do no wrong?

Trouble is he's already admitted to getting two managerial appointments wrong by sacking them.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whether you think Cortese was right or wrong he has undoubtable split the fans and that cannot be a good thing.

Which is why we are trying to pull them together again, we will need all of their support on Monday, not their personal grievances!

Are you another one that believes Cortese can do no wrong?

Trouble is he's already admitted to getting two managerial appointments wrong by sacking them.

Outside of the Box wrote:
I can see Nigel replacing Pardew again,,,however Blackpool are not in our league so I'd rather he go there.

Imagine if Nigel went to the Geordies and kept them up at our expense,,,,nightmare scenario.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whether you think Cortese was right or wrong he has undoubtable split the fans and that cannot be a good thing.

Which is why we are trying to pull them together again, we will need all of their support on Monday, not their personal grievances!

Are you another one that believes Cortese can do no wrong?

Trouble is he's already admitted to getting two managerial appointments wrong by sacking them.

Sorry Seed but IMO, that is the worse post you have ever made, do you honestly believe that? First manager he had was AP and he wasn't doing all that badly football wise, if the stories were to be believed, it was his non football activites that got him the boot. NA was fairly good don't you think, but was prone to a few gaffs, and despite learning the Premier ropes fairly quickly, still showed signs of frailty at times. The next page of the story is a total unknown quality, it could be a stroke of genuis or a complete dogs breakfast, I'll tell you more around Easter time. To answer your question NC has got a lot of things wrong, I have respect for him, I don't actually like him as a person, but not having met him that is based on reputation, not fact. He is just another human being. However who else would have got us this far, this quick?

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whether you think Cortese was right or wrong he has undoubtable split the fans and that cannot be a good thing.

Which is why we are trying to pull them together again, we will need all of their support on Monday, not their personal grievances!

Are you another one that believes Cortese can do no wrong?

Trouble is he's already admitted to getting two managerial appointments wrong by sacking them.

Sorry Seed but IMO, that is the worse post you have ever made, do you honestly believe that? First manager he had was AP and he wasn't doing all that badly football wise, if the stories were to be believed, it was his non football activites that got him the boot. NA was fairly good don't you think, but was prone to a few gaffs, and despite learning the Premier ropes fairly quickly, still showed signs of frailty at times. The next page of the story is a total unknown quality, it could be a stroke of genuis or a complete dogs breakfast, I'll tell you more around Easter time. To answer your question NC has got a lot of things wrong, I have respect for him, I don't actually like him as a person, but not having met him that is based on reputation, not fact. He is just another human being. However who else would have got us this far, this quick?

You miss my point.

When you sack your own appointments you are admitting you got it wrong - I've done it myself - you either appointed the wrong person or you failed to give them the support in and tools for the job required. Simples.

Tirau Dan wrote:
Good Luck Nigel.. Chelsea should grab you!! but if you do go to Blackfool good luck.


Boo brigade that called for adkins head after three prem games and media are loving this circus.

I think we've all known for ages we have a head coach system at Saints where the manager sorts the team play according to board policy with board appointed players. The Head Coach does have a say but gets what he gets.

I see the new guy as a short term caretaker. He just simply has no record at all. Give him a go but he's not got a show of making an honest impact in the time available.

I've been his biggest supporter on here Nicola Cortese but he obviously "demands" miracles of the water to wine genre and is a very impatient intolerant man but whether this move pans out, we will wait and see..

If it doesn't work it will be very hard to find a credible replacement.

MGRA wrote:

SaintMax wrote:

MGRA wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Why are people surprised that MP has been involved in transfer dealings for weeks and getting involved.
This isn't underhand, or back stabbing this is called a transition and in the best interests of minimul disruption.
Ok, sacking NA is pretty disruptive, but is NC going to persevere for the sake of being nice to Nige?
Good luck Nigel, I actually became very fond of you, but good luck, onward and upward, bring on the toffees!! (Stupid name...)

It is underhand, it is backstabbing and its not a transition. Its the most shabby incident in our clubs history. Total disgrace. But thats water under the bridge, cheer for the team, the new manager and be prepared to stay for 30 minutes after the game if we loose booing Nicola Cortese... its really that simple !

Stay behind and boo for 30 mins if we lose? You can't change what's happened, I bet you said the same when Pardew was sacked, then started to cheer up and clap when our next progressional Manager in post got results.
Sometimes MGRA I think you post pretty insightful posts, other times.. I don't.
I've heard Everton are wanting to take advantage of fans who want to air their displeasure. We have to go onwards and upwards together, or like Chelsea, boo are team into losing at home.

I am glad you like some of my posts,,, I guess I have off-days.... what I said is not what I think SHOULD happen, its what I think WILL happen. Nigel is a much bigger man that Nicola in many supported eyes and they have just seen the heart ripped out of the Saints. I would never stay and boo NC. But thats what will happen if loose....

J7junctionseven wrote:
Does anyone else not like all this Pinocchio sh1t that appears to be used by a few people?
I'm not sure about other people on here but I don't think it's in the least bit funny bu do think it's disrespectful.
It was bad enough when we had some on here who still couldn't spell Adkins after two and a half years.
Can't we just learn and use the new fellas name or just use his initials if it's a bit to difficult for some.
I'm not a moaner and do like a good laugh and joke etc but this is as bad as the tango man comments about NA
COYR Good luck MP

RedArmy1 wrote:

J7junctionseven wrote:
Does anyone else not like all this Pinocchio sh1t that appears to be used by a few people?
I'm not sure about other people on here but I don't think it's in the least bit funny bu do think it's disrespectful.
It was bad enough when we had some on here who still couldn't spell Adkins after two and a half years.
Can't we just learn and use the new fellas name or just use his initials if it's a bit to difficult for some.
I'm not a moaner and do like a good laugh and joke etc but this is as bad as the tango man comments about NA
COYR Good luck MP

The best chant so far has been posted by you ...

We've got Mauricio ... We've got Mauricio

I've been in Woolston tonight and fans have got a placard ..

There's only one Nigel Adkins.

A better message would be ...

THANK YOU NIGEL ADKINS.

The biggest compliment that the players could do and the fans reaction is get behind the Team and WIN a game of football against Everton.

COYR

Scarborosaint wrote:
You don't know what you doing maybe

Confucious wrote:
Anybody know when it's officially okay to cheer up?

I was very p!ssed off and saddened about this thing too, but this ongoing gloom isn't going to do us, the club or Nigel any good.

Nigel's had rave reviews from the fans and the media and I reckon he'll be very sore but will prosper. We don't want to get on a grief wagon as if Princess Diana has died.

Paul Merson was very critical of Nicola on Soccer Saturday today and said "I hope they go down."

Well I don't. We have to shake this off, get positive again and back the team. Where's Red Army1?

MGRA wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

MGRA wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Why are people surprised that MP has been involved in transfer dealings for weeks and getting involved.
This isn't underhand, or back stabbing this is called a transition and in the best interests of minimul disruption.
Ok, sacking NA is pretty disruptive, but is NC going to persevere for the sake of being nice to Nige?
Good luck Nigel, I actually became very fond of you, but good luck, onward and upward, bring on the toffees!! (Stupid name...)

It is underhand, it is backstabbing and its not a transition. Its the most shabby incident in our clubs history. Total disgrace. But thats water under the bridge, cheer for the team, the new manager and be prepared to stay for 30 minutes after the game if we loose booing Nicola Cortese... its really that simple !

Oh come on MGRA, the chances of any of the Plastics being there 5 minutes before then end is unlikely! Let alone 30 minutes after....

not sure this time... NC has stained the club and many life-long fans are questioning the point of it all.. Look at the results today, momentum is everything, if NC has destroyed that just to install a toy-boy buddy then I predict real hatred on a grand scale. I am not saying I support that, in fact I actually don't... But the anger I have experienced in the last 24 hours is quite extraordinary. No real supporter will hold a grudge against MP, even those that think accepting a job weeks in advance like he did in the those circumstances is "dirty pool", so he will be fine, as will our superb squad of players... But NC is another matter, thousands of supporters now want rid of him and, again, I am not one of them. I want him to stay funnily enough, and although a huge coward for letting MP face the cameras alone , we must remember Italians are stereotyped for having tanks with 4 reverse gears and 1 forward gear incase they are attacked from behind.... ;0)

J7junctionseven wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Anybody know when it's officially okay to cheer up?

I was very p!ssed off and saddened about this thing too, but this ongoing gloom isn't going to do us, the club or Nigel any good.

Nigel's had rave reviews from the fans and the media and I reckon he'll be very sore but will prosper. We don't want to get on a grief wagon as if Princess Diana has died.

Paul Merson was very critical of Nicola on Soccer Saturday today and said "I hope they go down."

Well I don't. We have to shake this off, get positive again and back the team. Where's Red Army1?

Spot on! COYR .....It could be worse, we could be you know who!!!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

J7junctionseven wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Anybody know when it's officially okay to cheer up?

I was very p!ssed off and saddened about this thing too, but this ongoing gloom isn't going to do us, the club or Nigel any good.

Nigel's had rave reviews from the fans and the media and I reckon he'll be very sore but will prosper. We don't want to get on a grief wagon as if Princess Diana has died.

Paul Merson was very critical of Nicola on Soccer Saturday today and said "I hope they go down."

Well I don't. We have to shake this off, get positive again and back the team. Where's Red Army1?

Spot on! COYR .....It could be worse, we could be you know who!!!

Three things I don't want to be tonight, 1. A Norwich supporter, 2. A Newcastle supporter, 3. the obvious.

Confucious wrote:
Anybody know when it's officially okay to cheer up?

I was very p!ssed off and saddened about this thing too, but this ongoing gloom isn't going to do us, the club or Nigel any good.

Nigel's had rave reviews from the fans and the media and I reckon he'll be very sore but will prosper. We don't want to get on a grief wagon as if Princess Diana has died.

Paul Merson was very critical of Nicola on Soccer Saturday today and said "I hope they go down."

Well I don't. We have to shake this off, get positive again and back the team. Where's Red Army1?

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

MGRA wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

MGRA wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Why are people surprised that MP has been involved in transfer dealings for weeks and getting involved.
This isn't underhand, or back stabbing this is called a transition and in the best interests of minimul disruption.
Ok, sacking NA is pretty disruptive, but is NC going to persevere for the sake of being nice to Nige?
Good luck Nigel, I actually became very fond of you, but good luck, onward and upward, bring on the toffees!! (Stupid name...)

It is underhand, it is backstabbing and its not a transition. Its the most shabby incident in our clubs history. Total disgrace. But thats water under the bridge, cheer for the team, the new manager and be prepared to stay for 30 minutes after the game if we loose booing Nicola Cortese... its really that simple !

Oh come on MGRA, the chances of any of the Plastics being there 5 minutes before then end is unlikely! Let alone 30 minutes after....

not sure this time... NC has stained the club and many life-long fans are questioning the point of it all.. Look at the results today, momentum is everything, if NC has destroyed that just to install a toy-boy buddy then I predict real hatred on a grand scale. I am not saying I support that, in fact I actually don't... But the anger I have experienced in the last 24 hours is quite extraordinary. No real supporter will hold a grudge against MP, even those that think accepting a job weeks in advance like he did in the those circumstances is "dirty pool", so he will be fine, as will our superb squad of players... But NC is another matter, thousands of supporters now want rid of him and, again, I am not one of them. I want him to stay funnily enough, and although a huge coward for letting MP face the cameras alone , we must remember Italians are stereotyped for having tanks with 4 reverse gears and 1 forward gear incase they are attacked from behind.... ;0)

Missed this one earlier, it reminds me of a statement I heard about the Italian Air Force, why did they buy Harriers, coz they are the only jet fighter than fly backwards! A bit of racial stereotyping but Nicola isn't exactly the regular Italian is he, seems to have been more typical of a Swiss than Italian.

Scarborosaint wrote:
It's a simple concept this chairmen lark mr cortese, you choose a manager , you deal with business giving the manager money to invest in the squad, the manager deals with the football side, if he gets it wrong you sack him and get a new one in, somewhere along the line you forgot that NA just gained 2 promotions bought young promising players in to the club , had gained confidence after a shaky start to the premiership and was popular with the supporters.
If you were looking for the right way to do it , look at mr Coates at Stoke let's Tony pullis do his job , never interferes and backs him to make the right choices in the transfer Market . Simples

Drunken Proletariat wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

MGRA wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

MGRA wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Why are people surprised that MP has been involved in transfer dealings for weeks and getting involved.
This isn't underhand, or back stabbing this is called a transition and in the best interests of minimul disruption.
Ok, sacking NA is pretty disruptive, but is NC going to persevere for the sake of being nice to Nige?
Good luck Nigel, I actually became very fond of you, but good luck, onward and upward, bring on the toffees!! (Stupid name...)

It is underhand, it is backstabbing and its not a transition. Its the most shabby incident in our clubs history. Total disgrace. But thats water under the bridge, cheer for the team, the new manager and be prepared to stay for 30 minutes after the game if we loose booing Nicola Cortese... its really that simple !

Oh come on MGRA, the chances of any of the Plastics being there 5 minutes before then end is unlikely! Let alone 30 minutes after....

not sure this time... NC has stained the club and many life-long fans are questioning the point of it all.. Look at the results today, momentum is everything, if NC has destroyed that just to install a toy-boy buddy then I predict real hatred on a grand scale. I am not saying I support that, in fact I actually don't... But the anger I have experienced in the last 24 hours is quite extraordinary. No real supporter will hold a grudge against MP, even those that think accepting a job weeks in advance like he did in the those circumstances is "dirty pool", so he will be fine, as will our superb squad of players... But NC is another matter, thousands of supporters now want rid of him and, again, I am not one of them. I want him to stay funnily enough, and although a huge coward for letting MP face the cameras alone , we must remember Italians are stereotyped for having tanks with 4 reverse gears and 1 forward gear incase they are attacked from behind.... ;0)

Missed this one earlier, it reminds me of a statement I heard about the Italian Air Force, why did they buy Harriers, coz they are the only jet fighter than fly backwards! A bit of racial stereotyping but Nicola isn't exactly the regular Italian is he, seems to have been more typical of a Swiss than Italian.

Definitely more Corleone about NC than Il Duce.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

J7junctionseven wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Anybody know when it's officially okay to cheer up?

I was very p!ssed off and saddened about this thing too, but this ongoing gloom isn't going to do us, the club or Nigel any good.

Nigel's had rave reviews from the fans and the media and I reckon he'll be very sore but will prosper. We don't want to get on a grief wagon as if Princess Diana has died.

Paul Merson was very critical of Nicola on Soccer Saturday today and said "I hope they go down."

Well I don't. We have to shake this off, get positive again and back the team. Where's Red Army1?

Spot on! COYR .....It could be worse, we could be you know who!!!

Three things I don't want to be tonight, 1. A Norwich supporter, 2. A Newcastle supporter, 3. the obvious.

J7junctionseven wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

J7junctionseven wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Anybody know when it's officially okay to cheer up?

I was very p!ssed off and saddened about this thing too, but this ongoing gloom isn't going to do us, the club or Nigel any good.

Nigel's had rave reviews from the fans and the media and I reckon he'll be very sore but will prosper. We don't want to get on a grief wagon as if Princess Diana has died.

Paul Merson was very critical of Nicola on Soccer Saturday today and said "I hope they go down."

Well I don't. We have to shake this off, get positive again and back the team. Where's Red Army1?

Spot on! COYR .....It could be worse, we could be you know who!!!

Three things I don't want to be tonight, 1. A Norwich supporter, 2. A Newcastle supporter, 3. the obvious.

Is number three a professional comedian?....:o)

Confucious wrote:
Anybody know when it's officially okay to cheer up?

I was very p!ssed off and saddened about this thing too, but this ongoing gloom isn't going to do us, the club or Nigel any good.

Nigel's had rave reviews from the fans and the media and I reckon he'll be very sore but will prosper. We don't want to get on a grief wagon as if Princess Diana has died.

Paul Merson was very critical of Nicola on Soccer Saturday today and said "I hope they go down."

Well I don't. We have to shake this off, get positive again and back the team. Where's Red Army1?

Confucious wrote:
Anybody know when it's officially okay to cheer up?

I was very p!ssed off and saddened about this thing too, but this ongoing gloom isn't going to do us, the club or Nigel any good.

Nigel's had rave reviews from the fans and the media and I reckon he'll be very sore but will prosper. We don't want to get on a grief wagon as if Princess Diana has died.

Paul Merson was very critical of Nicola on Soccer Saturday today and said "I hope they go down."

Well I don't. We have to shake this off, get positive again and back the team. Where's Red Army1?

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whether you think Cortese was right or wrong he has undoubtable split the fans and that cannot be a good thing.

Which is why we are trying to pull them together again, we will need all of their support on Monday, not their personal grievances!

Are you another one that believes Cortese can do no wrong?

Trouble is he's already admitted to getting two managerial appointments wrong by sacking them.

Sorry Seed but IMO, that is the worse post you have ever made, do you honestly believe that? First manager he had was AP and he wasn't doing all that badly football wise, if the stories were to be believed, it was his non football activites that got him the boot. NA was fairly good don't you think, but was prone to a few gaffs, and despite learning the Premier ropes fairly quickly, still showed signs of frailty at times. The next page of the story is a total unknown quality, it could be a stroke of genuis or a complete dogs breakfast, I'll tell you more around Easter time. To answer your question NC has got a lot of things wrong, I have respect for him, I don't actually like him as a person, but not having met him that is based on reputation, not fact. He is just another human being. However who else would have got us this far, this quick?

You miss my point.

When you sack your own appointments you are admitting you got it wrong - I've done it myself - you either appointed the wrong person or you failed to give them the support in and tools for the job required. Simples.

Rubbish, look at the time scale, if you sack someone after three days that's failure. after a period when a lot went right, but then started to deteriorate that's common sense.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Scarborosaint wrote:
It's a simple concept this chairmen lark mr cortese, you choose a manager , you deal with business giving the manager money to invest in the squad, the manager deals with the football side, if he gets it wrong you sack him and get a new one in, somewhere along the line you forgot that NA just gained 2 promotions bought young promising players in to the club , had gained confidence after a shaky start to the premiership and was popular with the supporters.
If you were looking for the right way to do it , look at mr Coates at Stoke let's Tony pullis do his job , never interferes and backs him to make the right choices in the transfer Market . Simples

.. and they lost today, funny that.

Scarborosaint wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Scarborosaint wrote:
It's a simple concept this chairmen lark mr cortese, you choose a manager , you deal with business giving the manager money to invest in the squad, the manager deals with the football side, if he gets it wrong you sack him and get a new one in, somewhere along the line you forgot that NA just gained 2 promotions bought young promising players in to the club , had gained confidence after a shaky start to the premiership and was popular with the supporters.
If you were looking for the right way to do it , look at mr Coates at Stoke let's Tony pullis do his job , never interferes and backs him to make the right choices in the transfer Market . Simples

.. and they lost today, funny that.

And your Point is ?? They have been in prem for over 5 years and are above us in the league

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whether you think Cortese was right or wrong he has undoubtable split the fans and that cannot be a good thing.

Which is why we are trying to pull them together again, we will need all of their support on Monday, not their personal grievances!

Are you another one that believes Cortese can do no wrong?

Trouble is he's already admitted to getting two managerial appointments wrong by sacking them.

Sorry Seed but IMO, that is the worse post you have ever made, do you honestly believe that? First manager he had was AP and he wasn't doing all that badly football wise, if the stories were to be believed, it was his non football activites that got him the boot. NA was fairly good don't you think, but was prone to a few gaffs, and despite learning the Premier ropes fairly quickly, still showed signs of frailty at times. The next page of the story is a total unknown quality, it could be a stroke of genuis or a complete dogs breakfast, I'll tell you more around Easter time. To answer your question NC has got a lot of things wrong, I have respect for him, I don't actually like him as a person, but not having met him that is based on reputation, not fact. He is just another human being. However who else would have got us this far, this quick?

You miss my point.

When you sack your own appointments you are admitting you got it wrong - I've done it myself - you either appointed the wrong person or you failed to give them the support in and tools for the job required. Simples.

Rubbish, look at the time scale, if you sack someone after three days that's failure. after a period when a lot went right, but then started to deteriorate that's common sense.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whether you think Cortese was right or wrong he has undoubtable split the fans and that cannot be a good thing.

Which is why we are trying to pull them together again, we will need all of their support on Monday, not their personal grievances!

Are you another one that believes Cortese can do no wrong?

Trouble is he's already admitted to getting two managerial appointments wrong by sacking them.

Sorry Seed but IMO, that is the worse post you have ever made, do you honestly believe that? First manager he had was AP and he wasn't doing all that badly football wise, if the stories were to be believed, it was his non football activites that got him the boot. NA was fairly good don't you think, but was prone to a few gaffs, and despite learning the Premier ropes fairly quickly, still showed signs of frailty at times. The next page of the story is a total unknown quality, it could be a stroke of genuis or a complete dogs breakfast, I'll tell you more around Easter time. To answer your question NC has got a lot of things wrong, I have respect for him, I don't actually like him as a person, but not having met him that is based on reputation, not fact. He is just another human being. However who else would have got us this far, this quick?

You miss my point.

When you sack your own appointments you are admitting you got it wrong - I've done it myself - you either appointed the wrong person or you failed to give them the support in and tools for the job required. Simples.

Rubbish, look at the time scale, if you sack someone after three days that's failure. after a period when a lot went right, but then started to deteriorate that's common sense.

Ok. let's stick with your logic then.

Are you saying things were starting to deteriorate?

bigfella777 wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Anybody know when it's officially okay to cheer up?

I was very p!ssed off and saddened about this thing too, but this ongoing gloom isn't going to do us, the club or Nigel any good.

Nigel's had rave reviews from the fans and the media and I reckon he'll be very sore but will prosper. We don't want to get on a grief wagon as if Princess Diana has died.

Paul Merson was very critical of Nicola on Soccer Saturday today and said "I hope they go down."

Well I don't. We have to shake this off, get positive again and back the team. Where's Red Army1?

Paul Merson spunked everything he ever earned down the bookies , who is he to criticise anything. There is a lot of jealousy and fear brewing up in the league because of our new manager and spending power,I reckon within 5 years champions league plus 50k seater stadium. The futures bright stop living in the past.

Outside of the Box wrote:
I can see Nigel replacing Pardew again,,,however Blackpool are not in our league so I'd rather he go there. Imagine if Nigel went to the Geordies and kept them up at our expense,,,,nightmare scenario.

MGRA wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whether you think Cortese was right or wrong he has undoubtable split the fans and that cannot be a good thing.

Which is why we are trying to pull them together again, we will need all of their support on Monday, not their personal grievances!

Are you another one that believes Cortese can do no wrong?

Trouble is he's already admitted to getting two managerial appointments wrong by sacking them.

Sorry Seed but IMO, that is the worse post you have ever made, do you honestly believe that? First manager he had was AP and he wasn't doing all that badly football wise, if the stories were to be believed, it was his non football activites that got him the boot. NA was fairly good don't you think, but was prone to a few gaffs, and despite learning the Premier ropes fairly quickly, still showed signs of frailty at times. The next page of the story is a total unknown quality, it could be a stroke of genuis or a complete dogs breakfast, I'll tell you more around Easter time. To answer your question NC has got a lot of things wrong, I have respect for him, I don't actually like him as a person, but not having met him that is based on reputation, not fact. He is just another human being. However who else would have got us this far, this quick?

You miss my point.

When you sack your own appointments you are admitting you got it wrong - I've done it myself - you either appointed the wrong person or you failed to give them the support in and tools for the job required. Simples.

Rubbish, look at the time scale, if you sack someone after three days that's failure. after a period when a lot went right, but then started to deteriorate that's common sense.

Ok. let's stick with your logic then.

Are you saying things were starting to deteriorate?

NIgel was out after the West Ham game... NC lost his nerve and lined up two replacements for the shortlist. One was offered the job informally and thank god turned it down, the other accepted and then spend "weeks" studying his new team. Meanwhile, none the wiser, dear old Nigel (unknown to him now a dead-man walking) went about building a real football team that was getting better and better despite unlucky injuries to key players.

MGRA wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Anybody know when it's officially okay to cheer up?

I was very p!ssed off and saddened about this thing too, but this ongoing gloom isn't going to do us, the club or Nigel any good.

Nigel's had rave reviews from the fans and the media and I reckon he'll be very sore but will prosper. We don't want to get on a grief wagon as if Princess Diana has died.

Paul Merson was very critical of Nicola on Soccer Saturday today and said "I hope they go down."

Well I don't. We have to shake this off, get positive again and back the team. Where's Red Army1?

Paul Merson spunked everything he ever earned down the bookies , who is he to criticise anything. There is a lot of jealousy and fear brewing up in the league because of our new manager and spending power,I reckon within 5 years champions league plus 50k seater stadium. The futures bright stop living in the past.

who is going to sit in those 50,000 seats ??? 25000 people plus 25000 of Nicola's imaginary friends ???

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
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Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whether you think Cortese was right or wrong he has undoubtable split the fans and that cannot be a good thing.

Which is why we are trying to pull them together again, we will need all of their support on Monday, not their personal grievances!

Are you another one that believes Cortese can do no wrong?

Trouble is he's already admitted to getting two managerial appointments wrong by sacking them.

Sorry Seed but IMO, that is the worse post you have ever made, do you honestly believe that? First manager he had was AP and he wasn't doing all that badly football wise, if the stories were to be believed, it was his non football activites that got him the boot. NA was fairly good don't you think, but was prone to a few gaffs, and despite learning the Premier ropes fairly quickly, still showed signs of frailty at times. The next page of the story is a total unknown quality, it could be a stroke of genuis or a complete dogs breakfast, I'll tell you more around Easter time. To answer your question NC has got a lot of things wrong, I have respect for him, I don't actually like him as a person, but not having met him that is based on reputation, not fact. He is just another human being. However who else would have got us this far, this quick?

You miss my point.

When you sack your own appointments you are admitting you got it wrong - I've done it myself - you either appointed the wrong person or you failed to give them the support in and tools for the job required. Simples.

Rubbish, look at the time scale, if you sack someone after three days that's failure. after a period when a lot went right, but then started to deteriorate that's common sense.

Ok. let's stick with your logic then.

Are you saying things were starting to deteriorate?

NIgel was out after the West Ham game... NC lost his nerve and lined up two replacements for the shortlist. One was offered the job informally and thank god turned it down, the other accepted and then spend "weeks" studying his new team. Meanwhile, none the wiser, dear old Nigel (unknown to him now a dead-man walking) went about building a real football team that was getting better and better despite unlucky injuries to key players.

So why wasn't the decision reversed due to the massive turnaround in on the pitch fortunes?

Who are you saying was offered the job, Gross or Redknapp?

bigfella777 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Anybody know when it's officially okay to cheer up?

I was very p!ssed off and saddened about this thing too, but this ongoing gloom isn't going to do us, the club or Nigel any good.

Nigel's had rave reviews from the fans and the media and I reckon he'll be very sore but will prosper. We don't want to get on a grief wagon as if Princess Diana has died.

Paul Merson was very critical of Nicola on Soccer Saturday today and said "I hope they go down."

Well I don't. We have to shake this off, get positive again and back the team. Where's Red Army1?

Paul Merson spunked everything he ever earned down the bookies , who is he to criticise anything. There is a lot of jealousy and fear brewing up in the league because of our new manager and spending power,I reckon within 5 years champions league plus 50k seater stadium. The futures bright stop living in the past.

who is going to sit in those 50,000 seats ??? 25000 people plus 25000 of Nicola's imaginary friends ???

Same 75000 who sit in Old Trafford. Not from Manchester are they.

MGRA wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whether you think Cortese was right or wrong he has undoubtable split the fans and that cannot be a good thing.

Which is why we are trying to pull them together again, we will need all of their support on Monday, not their personal grievances!

Are you another one that believes Cortese can do no wrong?

Trouble is he's already admitted to getting two managerial appointments wrong by sacking them.

Sorry Seed but IMO, that is the worse post you have ever made, do you honestly believe that? First manager he had was AP and he wasn't doing all that badly football wise, if the stories were to be believed, it was his non football activites that got him the boot. NA was fairly good don't you think, but was prone to a few gaffs, and despite learning the Premier ropes fairly quickly, still showed signs of frailty at times. The next page of the story is a total unknown quality, it could be a stroke of genuis or a complete dogs breakfast, I'll tell you more around Easter time. To answer your question NC has got a lot of things wrong, I have respect for him, I don't actually like him as a person, but not having met him that is based on reputation, not fact. He is just another human being. However who else would have got us this far, this quick?

You miss my point.

When you sack your own appointments you are admitting you got it wrong - I've done it myself - you either appointed the wrong person or you failed to give them the support in and tools for the job required. Simples.

Rubbish, look at the time scale, if you sack someone after three days that's failure. after a period when a lot went right, but then started to deteriorate that's common sense.

Ok. let's stick with your logic then.

Are you saying things were starting to deteriorate?

NIgel was out after the West Ham game... NC lost his nerve and lined up two replacements for the shortlist. One was offered the job informally and thank god turned it down, the other accepted and then spend "weeks" studying his new team. Meanwhile, none the wiser, dear old Nigel (unknown to him now a dead-man walking) went about building a real football team that was getting better and better despite unlucky injuries to key players.

So why wasn't the decision reversed due to the massive turnaround in on the pitch fortunes?

Who are you saying was offered the job, Gross or Redknapp?

Harry was informally offered it but refused. The decision was not reversed because NC had committed. Nigel found out he was sacked by watching the news BEFORE NC had the courtesy to tell him face to face. Harry was asked if he wanted the job whilst he was within ear shot of three FA officials.

J7junctionseven wrote:
Posted it 3 times by mistake, but checked the league tables and guess what good news folks!.....Saints are a Premier League club, Blackpool are in the Championship and Portsmouth are 2nd bottom in league 1 pendng a 10 point deduction and court hearing.....phew thank god for that, I was right.
COYR

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whether you think Cortese was right or wrong he has undoubtable split the fans and that cannot be a good thing.

Which is why we are trying to pull them together again, we will need all of their support on Monday, not their personal grievances!

Are you another one that believes Cortese can do no wrong?

Trouble is he's already admitted to getting two managerial appointments wrong by sacking them.

Sorry Seed but IMO, that is the worse post you have ever made, do you honestly believe that? First manager he had was AP and he wasn't doing all that badly football wise, if the stories were to be believed, it was his non football activites that got him the boot. NA was fairly good don't you think, but was prone to a few gaffs, and despite learning the Premier ropes fairly quickly, still showed signs of frailty at times. The next page of the story is a total unknown quality, it could be a stroke of genuis or a complete dogs breakfast, I'll tell you more around Easter time. To answer your question NC has got a lot of things wrong, I have respect for him, I don't actually like him as a person, but not having met him that is based on reputation, not fact. He is just another human being. However who else would have got us this far, this quick?

You miss my point.

When you sack your own appointments you are admitting you got it wrong - I've done it myself - you either appointed the wrong person or you failed to give them the support in and tools for the job required. Simples.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whether you think Cortese was right or wrong he has undoubtable split the fans and that cannot be a good thing.

Which is why we are trying to pull them together again, we will need all of their support on Monday, not their personal grievances!

Are you another one that believes Cortese can do no wrong?

Trouble is he's already admitted to getting two managerial appointments wrong by sacking them.

Sorry Seed but IMO, that is the worse post you have ever made, do you honestly believe that? First manager he had was AP and he wasn't doing all that badly football wise, if the stories were to be believed, it was his non football activites that got him the boot. NA was fairly good don't you think, but was prone to a few gaffs, and despite learning the Premier ropes fairly quickly, still showed signs of frailty at times. The next page of the story is a total unknown quality, it could be a stroke of genuis or a complete dogs breakfast, I'll tell you more around Easter time. To answer your question NC has got a lot of things wrong, I have respect for him, I don't actually like him as a person, but not having met him that is based on reputation, not fact. He is just another human being. However who else would have got us this far, this quick?

You miss my point.

When you sack your own appointments you are admitting you got it wrong - I've done it myself - you either appointed the wrong person or you failed to give them the support in and tools for the job required. Simples.

Rubbish, look at the time scale, if you sack someone after three days that's failure. after a period when a lot went right, but then started to deteriorate that's common sense.

Ok. let's stick with your logic then.

Are you saying things were starting to deteriorate?

NIgel was out after the West Ham game... NC lost his nerve and lined up two replacements for the shortlist. One was offered the job informally and thank god turned it down, the other accepted and then spend "weeks" studying his new team. Meanwhile, none the wiser, dear old Nigel (unknown to him now a dead-man walking) went about building a real football team that was getting better and better despite unlucky injuries to key players.

So why wasn't the decision reversed due to the massive turnaround in on the pitch fortunes?

Who are you saying was offered the job, Gross or Redknapp?

Harry was informally offered it but refused. The decision was not reversed because NC had committed. Nigel found out he was sacked by watching the news BEFORE NC had the courtesy to tell him face to face. Harry was asked if he wanted the job whilst he was within ear shot of three FA officials.

I watched Harry on SSN the night before the signing went through. He disclosed what he'd offered for him at Spurs and what wages he'd wanted and what he was now getting him for - all this the day before he actually signed.

We have a culture of total secrecy. The least suited manager on the planet to work with NC is Redknapp.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
www.onenigeladkins.c

om ... If you want to post a sympathetic message to him.

F Fan wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whether you think Cortese was right or wrong he has undoubtable split the fans and that cannot be a good thing.

Which is why we are trying to pull them together again, we will need all of their support on Monday, not their personal grievances!

Are you another one that believes Cortese can do no wrong?

Trouble is he's already admitted to getting two managerial appointments wrong by sacking them.

Sorry Seed but IMO, that is the worse post you have ever made, do you honestly believe that? First manager he had was AP and he wasn't doing all that badly football wise, if the stories were to be believed, it was his non football activites that got him the boot. NA was fairly good don't you think, but was prone to a few gaffs, and despite learning the Premier ropes fairly quickly, still showed signs of frailty at times. The next page of the story is a total unknown quality, it could be a stroke of genuis or a complete dogs breakfast, I'll tell you more around Easter time. To answer your question NC has got a lot of things wrong, I have respect for him, I don't actually like him as a person, but not having met him that is based on reputation, not fact. He is just another human being. However who else would have got us this far, this quick?

You miss my point.

When you sack your own appointments you are admitting you got it wrong - I've done it myself - you either appointed the wrong person or you failed to give them the support in and tools for the job required. Simples.

Don't think that's right. AP did well, especially with his signings. He would have stayed if it wasn't for the disciplinary. NC would also argue that the appointment of NA proved to be the right one. Three year contract to get us into the PL. NA, backed by money from NC, achieved that ahead of time. Job done. NC probably never intended that NA would be the manager for the next stage. But even if her did, NC probably thinks NA underachieved in the season to date. Huge investment over the summer and just above the relegation zone. It's clear now that the decision to sack him was taken some time ago so recent results had no effect.

The sacking is very harsh IMO but don't agree it proves NC got his managerial appontments wrong to date. Time will tell on the new one.

sisaydo wrote:
Southampton fans may be shocked by the sudden appointment of Mauricio Pochettino, but in Spain few people are surprised to see the 40-year-old Argentine back in a high-profile job.

Pochettino is highly regarded for his work at previous club Espanyol - and that respect has largely remained intact despite his departure by mutual consent from the Barcelona-based club in November and their subsequent revival under new coach Javier Aguirre.

True, Espanyol endured a terrible start to the season and Pochettino appeared unable to turn his team around, but the majority of fans stayed behind him and there was a great sense of reluctance among the club's hierarchy when they eventually made the decision to part ways.

The consensus among supporters was that Pochettino had been placed in a no-win situation at a club saddled with enormous debts, where he was consistently forced to sell his best players and deal with seemingly endless boardroom strife.

For many fans, the final straw was the summer departure of homegrown Spain Under-21 striker Alvaro Vazquez to Getafe. When Espanyol then kicked off the new season with just one point from their opening six games, fans directed their anger firmly towards the board rather than Pochettino.

Fans preferred to respect Pochettino for the achievements earlier in his reign and during his time as a central defender for the club.

By the time he took up his first senior coaching role at Espanyol in January 2009, Pochettino was already a popular figure with supporters following two successful spells as a player for Los Pericos, amassing nearly 300 appearances and playing in Copa del Rey triumphs in 2000 and 2006.

In between times, he played in France with Paris Saint-Germain and Bordeaux in a career that saw him win 20 international caps for Argentina. Most famously, from an English perspective, he was the man who conceded a penalty as Michael Owen tumbled under his challenge at the 2002 World Cup.

Pochettino's introduction to management was no easy task as he took over a team deep in relegation trouble, but he further strengthened his standing with supporters by inspiring his new team to a late-season turnaround that resulted in a 10th-placed finish.

Over the next couple of years, he developed a reputation as a forward-thinking and thoroughly modern coach. His teams played fast-paced football with an emphasis on pressing and ball retention, developing possession from defence, and Pochettino's methods soon attracted interest from a number of clubs around Europe.

Eventually the club's dire financial situation caught up with him. Debts forced them to sell star player after star player, including Jose Callejon to Real Madrid, Victor Ruiz to Napoli and Daniel Osvaldo to Roma, increasingly requiring Pochettino to make do with loan signings and veterans on short-term deals.

One notable aspect of Pochettino's time at Espanyol was his ability to work with young players and integrate them into the first team.

More than 20 academy graduates were introduced into senior football under him and, considering Southampton's strong track record in developing youth talent, that's surely one of the qualities that attracted them to Pochettino.

Gareth Bale, Theo Walcott, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Luke Shaw are just some of the names to come through the ranks at Southampton in recent years.

The biggest immediate challenge for the Argentine is adapting quickly to the demands of the Premier League - an environment he has never experienced but always admired - with a team that is far from safe.

As Chelsea boss Rafael Benitez noted on Friday: "He is a good manager but it is very difficult at the beginning - you need to know the structure, the managers, the players, the referees. In England you have to adapt; it is sometimes a question of time."

An interesting sub-plot for Southampton fans is the potential summer arrival of talented Espanyol midfielder Joan Verdu, a creative playmaker widely regarded as the Catalan club's best player.

Verdu, 29, is out of contract at the end of the season and has not agreed a new deal, with the club struggling to find funds to pay him as they seek to reduce their debts.

A host of clubs across Europe are known to be keen on securing his services for nothing in June. Considering his history with Pochettino, it's fairly safe to add Southampton to that list of suitors.

MGRA wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whether you think Cortese was right or wrong he has undoubtable split the fans and that cannot be a good thing.

Which is why we are trying to pull them together again, we will need all of their support on Monday, not their personal grievances!

Are you another one that believes Cortese can do no wrong?

Trouble is he's already admitted to getting two managerial appointments wrong by sacking them.

Sorry Seed but IMO, that is the worse post you have ever made, do you honestly believe that? First manager he had was AP and he wasn't doing all that badly football wise, if the stories were to be believed, it was his non football activites that got him the boot. NA was fairly good don't you think, but was prone to a few gaffs, and despite learning the Premier ropes fairly quickly, still showed signs of frailty at times. The next page of the story is a total unknown quality, it could be a stroke of genuis or a complete dogs breakfast, I'll tell you more around Easter time. To answer your question NC has got a lot of things wrong, I have respect for him, I don't actually like him as a person, but not having met him that is based on reputation, not fact. He is just another human being. However who else would have got us this far, this quick?

You miss my point.

When you sack your own appointments you are admitting you got it wrong - I've done it myself - you either appointed the wrong person or you failed to give them the support in and tools for the job required. Simples.

Rubbish, look at the time scale, if you sack someone after three days that's failure. after a period when a lot went right, but then started to deteriorate that's common sense.

Ok. let's stick with your logic then.

Are you saying things were starting to deteriorate?

NIgel was out after the West Ham game... NC lost his nerve and lined up two replacements for the shortlist. One was offered the job informally and thank god turned it down, the other accepted and then spend "weeks" studying his new team. Meanwhile, none the wiser, dear old Nigel (unknown to him now a dead-man walking) went about building a real football team that was getting better and better despite unlucky injuries to key players.

So why wasn't the decision reversed due to the massive turnaround in on the pitch fortunes?

Who are you saying was offered the job, Gross or Redknapp?

Harry was informally offered it but refused. The decision was not reversed because NC had committed. Nigel found out he was sacked by watching the news BEFORE NC had the courtesy to tell him face to face. Harry was asked if he wanted the job whilst he was within ear shot of three FA officials.

I watched Harry on SSN the night before the signing went through. He disclosed what he'd offered for him at Spurs and what wages he'd wanted and what he was now getting him for - all this the day before he actually signed.

We have a culture of total secrecy. The least suited manager on the planet to work with NC is Redknapp.

I agree. But as I understand it he was informally courted for the job after the West Ham defeat... presumably on a until-the-end-of-the

-season basis...

F Fan wrote:
Interesting. Hadn't heard that one before. I was at a dinner with NC the day AP got sacked. No doubt at all there that it was a disciplinary offence. But of course both could be true. A breakdown in relationship could have resulted in the disciplinary offence - anything from stuff you Nicola to ignoring a direct instruction.

F Fan wrote:
Interesting. Hadn't heard that one before. I was at a dinner with NC the day AP got sacked. No doubt at all there that it was a disciplinary offence. But of course both could be true. A breakdown in relationship could have resulted in the disciplinary offence - anything from stuff you Nicola to ignoring a direct instruction.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whether you think Cortese was right or wrong he has undoubtable split the fans and that cannot be a good thing.

Which is why we are trying to pull them together again, we will need all of their support on Monday, not their personal grievances!

Are you another one that believes Cortese can do no wrong?

Trouble is he's already admitted to getting two managerial appointments wrong by sacking them.

Sorry Seed but IMO, that is the worse post you have ever made, do you honestly believe that? First manager he had was AP and he wasn't doing all that badly football wise, if the stories were to be believed, it was his non football activites that got him the boot. NA was fairly good don't you think, but was prone to a few gaffs, and despite learning the Premier ropes fairly quickly, still showed signs of frailty at times. The next page of the story is a total unknown quality, it could be a stroke of genuis or a complete dogs breakfast, I'll tell you more around Easter time. To answer your question NC has got a lot of things wrong, I have respect for him, I don't actually like him as a person, but not having met him that is based on reputation, not fact. He is just another human being. However who else would have got us this far, this quick?

You miss my point.

When you sack your own appointments you are admitting you got it wrong - I've done it myself - you either appointed the wrong person or you failed to give them the support in and tools for the job required. Simples.

Rubbish, look at the time scale, if you sack someone after three days that's failure. after a period when a lot went right, but then started to deteriorate that's common sense.

Ok. let's stick with your logic then.

Are you saying things were starting to deteriorate?

Dave Brown wrote:
The EU stiff our country,we have an Italian Chairman who has stiffed Southampton and its fan base and now an Argentinian Manager.
Look out The Isle Of Wight I expect the Argies will being claiming ownership of your island.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

F Fan wrote:
Interesting. Hadn't heard that one before. I was at a dinner with NC the day AP got sacked. No doubt at all there that it was a disciplinary offence. But of course both could be true. A breakdown in relationship could have resulted in the disciplinary offence - anything from stuff you Nicola to ignoring a direct instruction.

If you want someone out you look for reasons to execute it. It was a clash of personalities. Personally I thought Nigel was well suited to being able to work with Cortese.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

F Fan wrote:
Interesting. Hadn't heard that one before. I was at a dinner with NC the day AP got sacked. No doubt at all there that it was a disciplinary offence. But of course both could be true. A breakdown in relationship could have resulted in the disciplinary offence - anything from stuff you Nicola to ignoring a direct instruction.

If you want someone out you look for reasons to execute it. It was a clash of personalities. Personally I thought Nigel was well suited to being able to work with Cortese.

I think there is an obvious fact that we can draw from all the substantials...Corte

se is not an easy man to work for.

Let's just hope Pochettino has the magic formula.

angus mc coatup wrote:
well, now that I've calmed down and had few beers,and I can look at the facts in a more rational way.It looks to me like cortese has turned the whole fans
( unrealistic expectatons ) concept completely on It's head.for the first time ever It looks like the chairman of a football club has more ambition then the fans.and he's willing to take a massive gamble to fulfill those ambitions. this bloke probably wouldn't win a popularity contest at the moment but he's got nerve I'll give him that.I for one will miss adkins,but the prem is unforgiving.results are everything so nigel became collateral because of that.but,I'll be there monday doing what I've always done (get behind the boys) and will back the new man
because thats what supporters do.

so, thanks for the memories nigel. you did us proud !

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Whether you think Cortese was right or wrong he has undoubtable split the fans and that cannot be a good thing.

Which is why we are trying to pull them together again, we will need all of their support on Monday, not their personal grievances!

Are you another one that believes Cortese can do no wrong?

Trouble is he's already admitted to getting two managerial appointments wrong by sacking them.

Sorry Seed but IMO, that is the worse post you have ever made, do you honestly believe that? First manager he had was AP and he wasn't doing all that badly football wise, if the stories were to be believed, it was his non football activites that got him the boot. NA was fairly good don't you think, but was prone to a few gaffs, and despite learning the Premier ropes fairly quickly, still showed signs of frailty at times. The next page of the story is a total unknown quality, it could be a stroke of genuis or a complete dogs breakfast, I'll tell you more around Easter time. To answer your question NC has got a lot of things wrong, I have respect for him, I don't actually like him as a person, but not having met him that is based on reputation, not fact. He is just another human being. However who else would have got us this far, this quick?

You miss my point.

When you sack your own appointments you are admitting you got it wrong - I've done it myself - you either appointed the wrong person or you failed to give them the support in and tools for the job required. Simples.

Rubbish, look at the time scale, if you sack someone after three days that's failure. after a period when a lot went right, but then started to deteriorate that's common sense.

Ok. let's stick with your logic then.

Are you saying things were starting to deteriorate?

Osprey, did you miss this question?

rednwhite72 wrote:
With a CV that NA has gained at SFC I am not surprised that he has had offers flooding in. Good luck to you Nigel, the saints fans will never forget what you have done for us!
Forever Saints!

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I find it strange that talk has gone from Adkins being a future England manager and hope he stays if Liverpool came in for him to he's not good enough for us.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I find it strange that talk has gone from Adkins being a future England manager and hope he stays if Liverpool came in for him to he's not good enough for us.

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I tweeted Steeeeve's father earlier to ask what the feedback from first day's training with the new gaffer was like.

Response along the lines of "Just like any other proffessional footballer in the world...he will like him if he is chosen for the squad"

This made me think about loyalties...there really are none at all at this level. The 11 that are chosen to play on Monday night will love the new gaffer...and get on with the job.

As fans, we can only try to help them get the job done.

rednwhite72 wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:
well, now that I've calmed down and had few beers,and I can look at the facts in a more rational way.It looks to me like cortese has turned the whole fans
( unrealistic expectatons ) concept completely on It's head.for the first time ever It looks like the chairman of a football club has more ambition then the fans.and he's willing to take a massive gamble to fulfill those ambitions. this bloke probably wouldn't win a popularity contest at the moment but he's got nerve I'll give him that.I for one will miss adkins,but the prem is unforgiving.results are everything so nigel became collateral because of that.but,I'll be there monday doing what I've always done (get behind the boys) and will back the new man
because thats what supporters do.

so, thanks for the memories nigel. you did us proud !

Ditto, at first I was like wtf, but now I'm thinking well, maybe this man (NC) is doing something that we may not like but maybe just maybe he IS infact trying to push us on, the proof is in the pudding, we should all apprecaite what NA done for us but we should still be 100% behind the SFC players.

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I find it strange that talk has gone from Adkins being a future England manager and hope he stays if Liverpool came in for him to he's not good enough for us.

Adkins had his faults and I was left bewildered at times by his decisions, but was proud to have a young, bright English manager at our club.
We had a bit of consistany and he had rode the storm and as plenty have mentioned got 4 points out of 6 away from home, I expected sweet fa!
The way it was executed stinks too and lacks class, Adkins deserved to see the season out.
Maybe he's better out of it and can now go back to manage a team on his own terms. Cortese is definitely playing a dangerous game and it is clear that he doesn't give a sh1t about the fans feelings by sacking a guy we cheer.

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I find it strange that talk has gone from Adkins being a future England manager and hope he stays if Liverpool came in for him to he's not good enough for us.

Adkins had his faults and I was left bewildered at times by his decisions, but was proud to have a young, bright English manager at our club.
We had a bit of consistany and he had rode the storm and as plenty have mentioned got 4 points out of 6 away from home, I expected sweet fa!
The way it was executed stinks too and lacks class, Adkins deserved to see the season out.
Maybe he's better out of it and can now go back to manage a team on his own terms. Cortese is definitely playing a dangerous game and it is clear that he doesn't give a sh1t about the fans feelings by sacking a guy we cheer.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I find it strange that talk has gone from Adkins being a future England manager and hope he stays if Liverpool came in for him to he's not good enough for us.

Adkins had his faults and I was left bewildered at times by his decisions, but was proud to have a young, bright English manager at our club.
We had a bit of consistany and he had rode the storm and as plenty have mentioned got 4 points out of 6 away from home, I expected sweet fa!
The way it was executed stinks too and lacks class, Adkins deserved to see the season out.
Maybe he's better out of it and can now go back to manage a team on his own terms. Cortese is definitely playing a dangerous game and it is clear that he doesn't give a sh1t about the fans feelings by sacking a guy we cheer.

I can't argue with your point there ghk.
Now the deed is done...the dilemma is this...do we support the new regime...or do we potentially undermine the club we love?

My choice is to "suck on it", support the team 100% and see how it pans out to the end of the season.

I'll give Cortese's gamble till then.

MGRA wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Anybody know when it's officially okay to cheer up?

I was very p!ssed off and saddened about this thing too, but this ongoing gloom isn't going to do us, the club or Nigel any good.

Nigel's had rave reviews from the fans and the media and I reckon he'll be very sore but will prosper. We don't want to get on a grief wagon as if Princess Diana has died.

Paul Merson was very critical of Nicola on Soccer Saturday today and said "I hope they go down."

Well I don't. We have to shake this off, get positive again and back the team. Where's Red Army1?

Paul Merson spunked everything he ever earned down the bookies , who is he to criticise anything. There is a lot of jealousy and fear brewing up in the league because of our new manager and spending power,I reckon within 5 years champions league plus 50k seater stadium. The futures bright stop living in the past.

who is going to sit in those 50,000 seats ??? 25000 people plus 25000 of Nicola's imaginary friends ???

Same 75000 who sit in Old Trafford. Not from Manchester are they.

you need to look at a map my friend... Manchester is surrounded in all sides within 55 miles by 6,000,000 people.

Southampton is surrounded only on three sides by 750,000 people and most of them go to Bournemouth, Reading, Pompey and of course Saints.

There is no way on Earth without cultivating grass roots support that NC will get 50,000 people in a stadium. It is simply not going to happen. The biggest conurbation in Hampshire is Southampton and if life long fans drift away then that the enf of your Euro dreams I fear.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I find it strange that talk has gone from Adkins being a future England manager and hope he stays if Liverpool came in for him to he's not good enough for us.

Adkins had his faults and I was left bewildered at times by his decisions, but was proud to have a young, bright English manager at our club.
We had a bit of consistany and he had rode the storm and as plenty have mentioned got 4 points out of 6 away from home, I expected sweet fa!
The way it was executed stinks too and lacks class, Adkins deserved to see the season out.
Maybe he's better out of it and can now go back to manage a team on his own terms. Cortese is definitely playing a dangerous game and it is clear that he doesn't give a sh1t about the fans feelings by sacking a guy we cheer.

I can't argue with your point there ghk.
Now the deed is done...the dilemma is this...do we support the new regime...or do we potentially undermine the club we love?

My choice is to "suck on it", support the team 100% and see how it pans out to the end of the season.

I'll give Cortese's gamble till then.

ghk230473 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I tweeted Steeeeve's father earlier to ask what the feedback from first day's training with the new gaffer was like.

Response along the lines of "Just like any other proffessional footballer in the world...he will like him if he is chosen for the squad"

This made me think about loyalties...there really are none at all at this level. The 11 that are chosen to play on Monday night will love the new gaffer...and get on with the job.

As fans, we can only try to help them get the job done.

I will never question a players loyalty to saints again. If a youngster prefers to move on he's obviously learnt from the best. Cortese has shown no loyalty, appreciation or humanity towards Adkins what so ever.

Velleity wrote:

MGRA wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Anybody know when it's officially okay to cheer up?

I was very p!ssed off and saddened about this thing too, but this ongoing gloom isn't going to do us, the club or Nigel any good.

Nigel's had rave reviews from the fans and the media and I reckon he'll be very sore but will prosper. We don't want to get on a grief wagon as if Princess Diana has died.

Paul Merson was very critical of Nicola on Soccer Saturday today and said "I hope they go down."

Well I don't. We have to shake this off, get positive again and back the team. Where's Red Army1?

Paul Merson spunked everything he ever earned down the bookies , who is he to criticise anything. There is a lot of jealousy and fear brewing up in the league because of our new manager and spending power,I reckon within 5 years champions league plus 50k seater stadium. The futures bright stop living in the past.

who is going to sit in those 50,000 seats ??? 25000 people plus 25000 of Nicola's imaginary friends ???

Same 75000 who sit in Old Trafford. Not from Manchester are they.

you need to look at a map my friend... Manchester is surrounded in all sides within 55 miles by 6,000,000 people.

Southampton is surrounded only on three sides by 750,000 people and most of them go to Bournemouth, Reading, Pompey and of course Saints.

There is no way on Earth without cultivating grass roots support that NC will get 50,000 people in a stadium. It is simply not going to happen. The biggest conurbation in Hampshire is Southampton and if life long fans drift away then that the enf of your Euro dreams I fear.

You also need to look at a map and consider the competition within 55 miles of Manchester United.

Without even trying, there's:

Man C
Stockport
Liverpool
Wigan
Bolton
Preston
Blackpool
Blackburn
Burnley
Bradford
Leeds
Sheffield United
Sheffield Wednesday
Chesterfield
Stoke

So, hardly an area sans competition.

By the way I agree about getting 50K to St Mary's but your knowledge of geography north of Watford is like everyone else's down here.

ghk230473 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I tweeted Steeeeve's father earlier to ask what the feedback from first day's training with the new gaffer was like.

Response along the lines of "Just like any other proffessional footballer in the world...he will like him if he is chosen for the squad"

This made me think about loyalties...there really are none at all at this level. The 11 that are chosen to play on Monday night will love the new gaffer...and get on with the job.

As fans, we can only try to help them get the job done.

I will never question a players loyalty to saints again. If a youngster prefers to move on he's obviously learnt from the best. Cortese has shown no loyalty, appreciation or humanity towards Adkins what so ever.

Simmo13 wrote:
Reading The Pink tonight I am shocked to read the Terry Paine column that he actually supports NC decision to sack NA I wonder if its anything to do with his new position he has just been given over the years I was always told TP could not be trusted and it seems he now shows his true colours and I have no more respect for him now than I have NC hold your head in shame TP for cow towing to a rat of a chairman just to hold a position!

angus mc coatup wrote:

Simmo13 wrote:
Reading The Pink tonight I am shocked to read the Terry Paine column that he actually supports NC decision to sack NA I wonder if its anything to do with his new position he has just been given over the years I was always told TP could not be trusted and it seems he now shows his true colours and I have no more respect for him now than I have NC hold your head in shame TP for cow towing to a rat of a chairman just to hold a position!

wtf is cow towing

angus mc coatup wrote:

Simmo13 wrote:
Reading The Pink tonight I am shocked to read the Terry Paine column that he actually supports NC decision to sack NA I wonder if its anything to do with his new position he has just been given over the years I was always told TP could not be trusted and it seems he now shows his true colours and I have no more respect for him now than I have NC hold your head in shame TP for cow towing to a rat of a chairman just to hold a position!

wtf is cow towing

Baddesley Bill wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Simmo13 wrote:
Reading The Pink tonight I am shocked to read the Terry Paine column that he actually supports NC decision to sack NA I wonder if its anything to do with his new position he has just been given over the years I was always told TP could not be trusted and it seems he now shows his true colours and I have no more respect for him now than I have NC hold your head in shame TP for cow towing to a rat of a chairman just to hold a position!

wtf is cow towing

I have come across the occaisional camel toe...but cow towing would be a first for me.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Simmo13 wrote:
Reading The Pink tonight I am shocked to read the Terry Paine column that he actually supports NC decision to sack NA I wonder if its anything to do with his new position he has just been given over the years I was always told TP could not be trusted and it seems he now shows his true colours and I have no more respect for him now than I have NC hold your head in shame TP for cow towing to a rat of a chairman just to hold a position!

wtf is cow towing

I have come across the occaisional camel toe...but cow towing would be a first for me.

angus mc coatup wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Simmo13 wrote:
Reading The Pink tonight I am shocked to read the Terry Paine column that he actually supports NC decision to sack NA I wonder if its anything to do with his new position he has just been given over the years I was always told TP could not be trusted and it seems he now shows his true colours and I have no more respect for him now than I have NC hold your head in shame TP for cow towing to a rat of a chairman just to hold a position!

wtf is cow towing

I have come across the occaisional camel toe...but cow towing would be a first for me.

I even didn't know cows could break down in the first place.

Simmo13 wrote:
Probably your first season SMS

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Simmo13 wrote:
Reading The Pink tonight I am shocked to read the Terry Paine column that he actually supports NC decision to sack NA I wonder if its anything to do with his new position he has just been given over the years I was always told TP could not be trusted and it seems he now shows his true colours and I have no more respect for him now than I have NC hold your head in shame TP for cow towing to a rat of a chairman just to hold a position!

wtf is cow towing

I have come across the occaisional camel toe...but cow towing would be a first for me.

It beats skunt shuffling.

Simmo13 wrote:
Reading The Pink tonight I am shocked to read the Terry Paine column that he actually supports NC decision to sack NA I wonder if its anything to do with his new position he has just been given over the years I was always told TP could not be trusted and it seems he now shows his true colours and I have no more respect for him now than I have NC hold your head in shame TP for cow towing to a rat of a chairman just to hold a position!

Scarborosaint wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Scarborosaint wrote:
It's a simple concept this chairmen lark mr cortese, you choose a manager , you deal with business giving the manager money to invest in the squad, the manager deals with the football side, if he gets it wrong you sack him and get a new one in, somewhere along the line you forgot that NA just gained 2 promotions bought young promising players in to the club , had gained confidence after a shaky start to the premiership and was popular with the supporters.
If you were looking for the right way to do it , look at mr Coates at Stoke let's Tony pullis do his job , never interferes and backs him to make the right choices in the transfer Market . Simples

.. and they lost today, funny that.

And your Point is ?? They have been in prem for over 5 years and are above us in the league

buster gutt wrote:
NO BOOING THE NEW MANAGER PLEASE !!!!!!
He's only been offered a new job and accepted it we would do the same so support the team and the new manager
it' what Nigel would want.No to discourage the team
We miss Nigel we have played our best football under him and say a heartfelt thank you !!!!!! but we must move on what is done is done

st1halo wrote:

Scarborosaint wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Scarborosaint wrote:
It's a simple concept this chairmen lark mr cortese, you choose a manager , you deal with business giving the manager money to invest in the squad, the manager deals with the football side, if he gets it wrong you sack him and get a new one in, somewhere along the line you forgot that NA just gained 2 promotions bought young promising players in to the club , had gained confidence after a shaky start to the premiership and was popular with the supporters.
If you were looking for the right way to do it , look at mr Coates at Stoke let's Tony pullis do his job , never interferes and backs him to make the right choices in the transfer Market . Simples

.. and they lost today, funny that.

And your Point is ?? They have been in prem for over 5 years and are above us in the league

And they will probably be in the same position in 5 years from now.
I just don't think you're understanding Cortese's vision Scarboro!

STID

Baddesley Bill wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Simmo13 wrote:
Reading The Pink tonight I am shocked to read the Terry Paine column that he actually supports NC decision to sack NA I wonder if its anything to do with his new position he has just been given over the years I was always told TP could not be trusted and it seems he now shows his true colours and I have no more respect for him now than I have NC hold your head in shame TP for cow towing to a rat of a chairman just to hold a position!

wtf is cow towing

I have come across the occaisional camel toe...but cow towing would be a first for me.

Rocket 1 wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Simmo13 wrote:
Reading The Pink tonight I am shocked to read the Terry Paine column that he actually supports NC decision to sack NA I wonder if its anything to do with his new position he has just been given over the years I was always told TP could not be trusted and it seems he now shows his true colours and I have no more respect for him now than I have NC hold your head in shame TP for cow towing to a rat of a chairman just to hold a position!

wtf is cow towing

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OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Rocket 1 wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Simmo13 wrote:
Reading The Pink tonight I am shocked to read the Terry Paine column that he actually supports NC decision to sack NA I wonder if its anything to do with his new position he has just been given over the years I was always told TP could not be trusted and it seems he now shows his true colours and I have no more respect for him now than I have NC hold your head in shame TP for cow towing to a rat of a chairman just to hold a position!

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Just a minor spellong error, kowtowing is being subservient. S&GP

St Retford wrote:
Right, no one's died. Let's all put our Coldplay records away and cheer up a bit.

When you strip away all the sentiment, we've got a new bloke with an amazing contacts book in charge. It's just possible that he could be the right guy to take us up the league. Believe.

ghk230473 wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Right, no one's died. Let's all put our Coldplay records away and cheer up a bit.

When you strip away all the sentiment, we've got a new bloke with an amazing contacts book in charge. It's just possible that he could be the right guy to take us up the league. Believe.

So naive, he could have a contacts list as long as around the world twice, wouldnt make any difference. Can fans not see what ever manager comes in is just schwi's hand puppet!
It is confirmed we are under another fascist regime, another whole lot of hurt awaits!

Carinthian Saint wrote:
I don't think there is anything new to add that hasn't been said 100 times already. I, like many others, have felt upset & angry over the last 24 / 36 hours about this news that has shook our club as a whole. But like most of us are, we now accept it & continue supporting our team. If people want to boycott the game on Monday that's their decision, if some would rather support Nigel himself then drive safely every other fortnight up to Blackburn, then in another 2 years you could well become a Liverpool supporter, again drive safely.

But for the majority of true fans they will be supporting Southampton FC tomorrow night in what ever capacity they can & will continue to do so for eternity, as will I.

Just this morning I was looking at the photos on Saints OS from yesterdays training. Mauricio Pochettino looks like he can talk the talk (albeit with a pocket translator for now). But can he walk the walk? Only time will tell. He may well have a shaky start but he will have 100% support from me through thick & thin as he will from 1000's of other Sants fans. A morale boost for me was seeing the players response to him, seeing them laughing, joking & training. They are professionals & will act accordingly. We have to be professional fans & continue with what we have been doing in the past. That will never change. Saints need us now more than ever.

After each game Nigel would debrief with the team, get 1 Negative & 5 Positives from it, draw a line under it then move on to the next one. I think we can liken NA's managerial reign here to any match. We have all been debriefing it on here over the last couple of days. 1 Negative from me would be that I didn't agree with certain sub choices that he made at times (that being said I thought at Chelsea he got it bang on, just a shame we conceded in the first half). 5 positives? I could come up with over 500 positives as I'm sure most of us could. Now we thank Nigel for all he has done, wish him all the very best for the future, but we have to draw a line under his name & move on to Mauricio Pochettino.

TOGETHER AS ONE.

Oh when the Saints, go marching in,
Oh when the Saints go marching in,
I wanna be in that number,
When the Saints go marching in.

RED ARMY, RED ARMY, RED ARMY, RED ARMY,
RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRMY!

Confucious wrote:
It took me nine weeks to get over it when Bambi's mum was shot. I need to get over this one before 8pm tomorrow.

I just hope the new man signs Thumper and Flower - both a great comfort to me at that difficult time.

Clever Dick wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Anybody know when it's officially okay to cheer up?

I was very p!ssed off and saddened about this thing too, but this ongoing gloom isn't going to do us, the club or Nigel any good.

Nigel's had rave reviews from the fans and the media and I reckon he'll be very sore but will prosper. We don't want to get on a grief wagon as if Princess Diana has died.

Paul Merson was very critical of Nicola on Soccer Saturday today and said "I hope they go down."

Well I don't. We have to shake this off, get positive again and back the team. Where's Red Army1?

I would say a pretty good cheerup time would be around 9.50 Monday nite after the mighty Saints fans have cheered their side to victory and 3 more points for Nigel's team.

St Retford wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Right, no one's died. Let's all put our Coldplay records away and cheer up a bit.

When you strip away all the sentiment, we've got a new bloke with an amazing contacts book in charge. It's just possible that he could be the right guy to take us up the league. Believe.

So naive, he could have a contacts list as long as around the world twice, wouldnt make any difference. Can fans not see what ever manager comes in is just schwi's hand puppet!
It is confirmed we are under another fascist regime, another whole lot of hurt awaits!

Fascism is the fusion of state and corporation power under right-wing authoritarian control. That's not really what's happening here, is it, so do stop it with the Hitler analogy. It's quite offensive.

Our new manager won't be anyone's hand puppet - he left his last job because he wouldn't accept the owner's ****. Give him a chance. Change isn't always bad. I bet you a shiny penny we'll be bringing in some very exciting players in the next 10 days.

ghk230473 wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Right, no one's died. Let's all put our Coldplay records away and cheer up a bit.

When you strip away all the sentiment, we've got a new bloke with an amazing contacts book in charge. It's just possible that he could be the right guy to take us up the league. Believe.

So naive, he could have a contacts list as long as around the world twice, wouldnt make any difference. Can fans not see what ever manager comes in is just schwi's hand puppet!
It is confirmed we are under another fascist regime, another whole lot of hurt awaits!

warrens 76 wrote:
A TRUCE please.

Whatever everyone's personal reactions and over-reactions this has got to stop...

Firstly: the club NEED us whoever is in charge, all who think they are being loyal to NA, ask yourself would he want to see his work undone, the effort all for nothing, fans tearing each oter apart..NO, you dishonour him by being disloyal to the club...

Secondly: We love NA for his decency, dignity and SUCCESS, all this moralising would not exist if he had missed promotion last season and we did almost blow it...had we been firmly in the relegation zone would everyone be so outraged.NO...it is because he was succesfull AND decent not just the decency..so those who are venting at NA are you holier than thou?

Three: I wish NA had not gone HOWEVER I will not deny that some of our panicking and giving up possession, speed of play, and substitutions left me worried, I believe we can do better whether that was due to NA is yet to be seen.

Four: NC....judging from our early start he would be neglectful in the extreme if he did NOT line up successors...many including myself thought that we were getting there....

Five: our recent results look flattering in comparison to our early season form nonetheless we still have lost more points from leading positions than any other team.

Six: If we want a glowing future we have to think ahead, our greatest asset is our academy...as potential constant relegation candidates (if NA had reached his limits) those players who want honours and european football will always be destined to leave us...

Seven: If our academy grows and links in with Argentinian and Spanish youth and boy can they play..I ask all fans to think of the implications!!!

Remember that picture of the enlarged stadium, european football and a feeling of loyalty and belonging to all those poor SOUTHERN kids with no identity but a mufco shirt....

If Cortese gets it wrong he will pay the price....NA will always be a wonderful person to us, let us not forget what he taught us...together as one...

I remember the interview at the end of last season..the writing was on the wall for a long time...

I will miss him AND I want the South to for once have a chance to join the big league, with this in mind the new guy has to be welcomed and NC judged end of season we have a difficult run in did NC stick or twist who can tell until the fat lady sings.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It would help if posters didn't use the quote function with multiple answers, just include a reference to what subject you are referring to ie warrens 76 9:50 am post, or just a cut and paste the relevant sentence, otherwise the site gets too unweildy.

ghk230473 wrote:

St Retford wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Right, no one's died. Let's all put our Coldplay records away and cheer up a bit.

When you strip away all the sentiment, we've got a new bloke with an amazing contacts book in charge. It's just possible that he could be the right guy to take us up the league. Believe.

So naive, he could have a contacts list as long as around the world twice, wouldnt make any difference. Can fans not see what ever manager comes in is just schwi's hand puppet!
It is confirmed we are under another fascist regime, another whole lot of hurt awaits!

Fascism is the fusion of state and corporation power under right-wing authoritarian control. That's not really what's happening here, is it, so do stop it with the Hitler analogy. It's quite offensive.

Our new manager won't be anyone's hand puppet - he left his last job because he wouldn't accept the owner's ****. Give him a chance. Change isn't always bad. I bet you a shiny penny we'll be bringing in some very exciting players in the next 10 days.

We haven't got a new manager, just a realisation who the manager is. He's been here since the take over!
Adkins and pardew are the lucky ones, they can and have manage in the true sense else where. Saints fans are the losers here, we have a manager with no experience in football what so ever, he's spent his time being a banker...... Change the b to a w is more accurate!

worried of n e hampshire wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It would help if posters didn't use the quote function with multiple answers, just include a reference to what subject you are referring to ie warrens 76 9:50 am post, or just a cut and paste the relevant sentence, otherwise the site gets too unweildy.

ok

Velleity wrote:

MGRA wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Anybody know when it's officially okay to cheer up?

I was very p!ssed off and saddened about this thing too, but this ongoing gloom isn't going to do us, the club or Nigel any good.

Nigel's had rave reviews from the fans and the media and I reckon he'll be very sore but will prosper. We don't want to get on a grief wagon as if Princess Diana has died.

Paul Merson was very critical of Nicola on Soccer Saturday today and said "I hope they go down."

Well I don't. We have to shake this off, get positive again and back the team. Where's Red Army1?

Paul Merson spunked everything he ever earned down the bookies , who is he to criticise anything. There is a lot of jealousy and fear brewing up in the league because of our new manager and spending power,I reckon within 5 years champions league plus 50k seater stadium. The futures bright stop living in the past.

who is going to sit in those 50,000 seats ??? 25000 people plus 25000 of Nicola's imaginary friends ???

Same 75000 who sit in Old Trafford. Not from Manchester are they.

you need to look at a map my friend... Manchester is surrounded in all sides within 55 miles by 6,000,000 people.

Southampton is surrounded only on three sides by 750,000 people and most of them go to Bournemouth, Reading, Pompey and of course Saints.

There is no way on Earth without cultivating grass roots support that NC will get 50,000 people in a stadium. It is simply not going to happen. The biggest conurbation in Hampshire is Southampton and if life long fans drift away then that the enf of your Euro dreams I fear.

You also need to look at a map and consider the competition within 55 miles of Manchester United.

Without even trying, there's:

Man C
Stockport
Liverpool
Wigan
Bolton
Preston
Blackpool
Blackburn
Burnley
Bradford
Leeds
Sheffield United
Sheffield Wednesday
Chesterfield
Stoke

So, hardly an area sans competition.

By the way I agree about getting 50K to St Mary's but your knowledge of geography north of Watford is like everyone else's down here.

warrens 76 wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Right, no one's died. Let's all put our Coldplay records away and cheer up a bit.

When you strip away all the sentiment, we've got a new bloke with an amazing contacts book in charge. It's just possible that he could be the right guy to take us up the league. Believe.

So naive, he could have a contacts list as long as around the world twice, wouldnt make any difference. Can fans not see what ever manager comes in is just schwi's hand puppet!
It is confirmed we are under another fascist regime, another whole lot of hurt awaits!

I have read your posts and am coming to the conclusion that you are purposefully sowing discontent...start backing the club and stop winding everyone up...your posts and there are a lot of them seem to fishy for someone who has the clubs best interests at heart....if you cannot write something positve do not write anything...unless you have another agenda???

MGRA wrote:

Velleity wrote:

MGRA wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Anybody know when it's officially okay to cheer up?

I was very p!ssed off and saddened about this thing too, but this ongoing gloom isn't going to do us, the club or Nigel any good.

Nigel's had rave reviews from the fans and the media and I reckon he'll be very sore but will prosper. We don't want to get on a grief wagon as if Princess Diana has died.

Paul Merson was very critical of Nicola on Soccer Saturday today and said "I hope they go down."

Well I don't. We have to shake this off, get positive again and back the team. Where's Red Army1?

Paul Merson spunked everything he ever earned down the bookies , who is he to criticise anything. There is a lot of jealousy and fear brewing up in the league because of our new manager and spending power,I reckon within 5 years champions league plus 50k seater stadium. The futures bright stop living in the past.

who is going to sit in those 50,000 seats ??? 25000 people plus 25000 of Nicola's imaginary friends ???

Same 75000 who sit in Old Trafford. Not from Manchester are they.

you need to look at a map my friend... Manchester is surrounded in all sides within 55 miles by 6,000,000 people.

Southampton is surrounded only on three sides by 750,000 people and most of them go to Bournemouth, Reading, Pompey and of course Saints.

There is no way on Earth without cultivating grass roots support that NC will get 50,000 people in a stadium. It is simply not going to happen. The biggest conurbation in Hampshire is Southampton and if life long fans drift away then that the enf of your Euro dreams I fear.

You also need to look at a map and consider the competition within 55 miles of Manchester United.

Without even trying, there's:

Man C
Stockport
Liverpool
Wigan
Bolton
Preston
Blackpool
Blackburn
Burnley
Bradford
Leeds
Sheffield United
Sheffield Wednesday
Chesterfield
Stoke

So, hardly an area sans competition.

By the way I agree about getting 50K to St Mary's but your knowledge of geography north of Watford is like everyone else's down here.

um, no I filtered out minor clubs and was using populations close to the big clubs. If you do the maths its clear. There is a figure ( forget what its called ) that shows likely available populations to fill any given sports stadium for various sports. The last time I looked this stuff up, Southamton had a figure something like 8.5 and Manure had a figure something like 23. These are not the exact figures, I can't remember but this was the kind of scenario.... If our first steps of a new era are to alienate 1000s of supporters, there is no way we would fill 50,000 seater stadium simply by trying to cast the net wider...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It would help if posters didn't use the quote function with multiple answers, just include a reference to what subject you are referring to ie warrens 76 9:50 am post, or just a cut and paste the relevant sentence, otherwise the site gets too unweildy.

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I tweeted Steeeeve's father earlier to ask what the feedback from first day's training with the new gaffer was like.

Response along the lines of "Just like any other proffessional footballer in the world...he will like him if he is chosen for the squad"

This made me think about loyalties...there really are none at all at this level. The 11 that are chosen to play on Monday night will love the new gaffer...and get on with the job.

As fans, we can only try to help them get the job done.

Red n White wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

St Retford wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Right, no one's died. Let's all put our Coldplay records away and cheer up a bit.

When you strip away all the sentiment, we've got a new bloke with an amazing contacts book in charge. It's just possible that he could be the right guy to take us up the league. Believe.

So naive, he could have a contacts list as long as around the world twice, wouldnt make any difference. Can fans not see what ever manager comes in is just schwi's hand puppet!
It is confirmed we are under another fascist regime, another whole lot of hurt awaits!

Fascism is the fusion of state and corporation power under right-wing authoritarian control. That's not really what's happening here, is it, so do stop it with the Hitler analogy. It's quite offensive.

Our new manager won't be anyone's hand puppet - he left his last job because he wouldn't accept the owner's ****. Give him a chance. Change isn't always bad. I bet you a shiny penny we'll be bringing in some very exciting players in the next 10 days.

We haven't got a new manager, just a realisation who the manager is. He's been here since the take over!
Adkins and pardew are the lucky ones, they can and have manage in the true sense else where. Saints fans are the losers here, we have a manager with no experience in football what so ever, he's spent his time being a banker...... Change the b to a w is more accurate!

So if, as you suggest, Cortese is managing the team, then surely Adkins leaving is nothing to worry about at all? Indeed we should be thanking and chanting Cortese's name as he has won us back to back promotions himself. Or does he only pick the team when we lose? I don't believe a word of it, otherwise Ramirez would have been starting every game, just like many thought Guly was, because of Cortese.

MGRA wrote:

Velleity wrote:

MGRA wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Anybody know when it's officially okay to cheer up?

I was very p!ssed off and saddened about this thing too, but this ongoing gloom isn't going to do us, the club or Nigel any good.

Nigel's had rave reviews from the fans and the media and I reckon he'll be very sore but will prosper. We don't want to get on a grief wagon as if Princess Diana has died.

Paul Merson was very critical of Nicola on Soccer Saturday today and said "I hope they go down."

Well I don't. We have to shake this off, get positive again and back the team. Where's Red Army1?

Paul Merson spunked everything he ever earned down the bookies , who is he to criticise anything. There is a lot of jealousy and fear brewing up in the league because of our new manager and spending power,I reckon within 5 years champions league plus 50k seater stadium. The futures bright stop living in the past.

who is going to sit in those 50,000 seats ??? 25000 people plus 25000 of Nicola's imaginary friends ???

Same 75000 who sit in Old Trafford. Not from Manchester are they.

you need to look at a map my friend... Manchester is surrounded in all sides within 55 miles by 6,000,000 people.

Southampton is surrounded only on three sides by 750,000 people and most of them go to Bournemouth, Reading, Pompey and of course Saints.

There is no way on Earth without cultivating grass roots support that NC will get 50,000 people in a stadium. It is simply not going to happen. The biggest conurbation in Hampshire is Southampton and if life long fans drift away then that the enf of your Euro dreams I fear.

You also need to look at a map and consider the competition within 55 miles of Manchester United.

Without even trying, there's:

Man C
Stockport
Liverpool
Wigan
Bolton
Preston
Blackpool
Blackburn
Burnley
Bradford
Leeds
Sheffield United
Sheffield Wednesday
Chesterfield
Stoke

So, hardly an area sans competition.

By the way I agree about getting 50K to St Mary's but your knowledge of geography north of Watford is like everyone else's down here.

um, no I filtered out minor clubs and was using populations close to the big clubs. If you do the maths its clear. There is a figure ( forget what its called ) that shows likely available populations to fill any given sports stadium for various sports. The last time I looked this stuff up, Southamton had a figure something like 8.5 and Manure had a figure something like 23. These are not the exact figures, I can't remember but this was the kind of scenario.... If our first steps of a new era are to alienate 1000s of supporters, there is no way we would fill 50,000 seater stadium simply by trying to cast the net wider...

buster gutt wrote:
NO BOOING THE NEW MANAGER PLEASE !!!!!!
He's only been offered a new job and accepted it we would do the same so support the team and the new manager
it' what Nigel would want.No to discourage the team
We miss Nigel we have played our best football under him and say a heartfelt thank you !!!!!! but we must move on what is done is done

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I don't know what to make of it all to be honest.

I suppose we need to decide what we want as a club. Is it success at any price? Is it morality and integrity?

warrens 76 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Velleity wrote:

MGRA wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Anybody know when it's officially okay to cheer up?

I was very p!ssed off and saddened about this thing too, but this ongoing gloom isn't going to do us, the club or Nigel any good.

Nigel's had rave reviews from the fans and the media and I reckon he'll be very sore but will prosper. We don't want to get on a grief wagon as if Princess Diana has died.

Paul Merson was very critical of Nicola on Soccer Saturday today and said "I hope they go down."

Well I don't. We have to shake this off, get positive again and back the team. Where's Red Army1?

Paul Merson spunked everything he ever earned down the bookies , who is he to criticise anything. There is a lot of jealousy and fear brewing up in the league because of our new manager and spending power,I reckon within 5 years champions league plus 50k seater stadium. The futures bright stop living in the past.

who is going to sit in those 50,000 seats ??? 25000 people plus 25000 of Nicola's imaginary friends ???

Same 75000 who sit in Old Trafford. Not from Manchester are they.

you need to look at a map my friend... Manchester is surrounded in all sides within 55 miles by 6,000,000 people.

Southampton is surrounded only on three sides by 750,000 people and most of them go to Bournemouth, Reading, Pompey and of course Saints.

There is no way on Earth without cultivating grass roots support that NC will get 50,000 people in a stadium. It is simply not going to happen. The biggest conurbation in Hampshire is Southampton and if life long fans drift away then that the enf of your Euro dreams I fear.

You also need to look at a map and consider the competition within 55 miles of Manchester United.

Without even trying, there's:

Man C
Stockport
Liverpool
Wigan
Bolton
Preston
Blackpool
Blackburn
Burnley
Bradford
Leeds
Sheffield United
Sheffield Wednesday
Chesterfield
Stoke

So, hardly an area sans competition.

By the way I agree about getting 50K to St Mary's but your knowledge of geography north of Watford is like everyone else's down here.

um, no I filtered out minor clubs and was using populations close to the big clubs. If you do the maths its clear. There is a figure ( forget what its called ) that shows likely available populations to fill any given sports stadium for various sports. The last time I looked this stuff up, Southamton had a figure something like 8.5 and Manure had a figure something like 23. These are not the exact figures, I can't remember but this was the kind of scenario.... If our first steps of a new era are to alienate 1000s of supporters, there is no way we would fill 50,000 seater stadium simply by trying to cast the net wider...

Oh we would...but it would be done by encouraging every youngster, school, parent within 4o miles to be part of it and to educate loyalty...

Figures are my business and we have one of the largest catchment areas with no competition in the country..

Norwich fill their stadium everyweek with a 3rd of our catchment..Newcastle anyone...the elephant in the room is in todays instant gratification world we need success before loyalty to get the newbee's.

Confucious wrote:
Anybody know when it's officially okay to cheer up?

I was very p!ssed off and saddened about this thing too, but this ongoing gloom isn't going to do us, the club or Nigel any good.

Nigel's had rave reviews from the fans and the media and I reckon he'll be very sore but will prosper. We don't want to get on a grief wagon as if Princess Diana has died.

Paul Merson was very critical of Nicola on Soccer Saturday today and said "I hope they go down."

Well I don't. We have to shake this off, get positive again and back the team. Where's Red Army1?

J7junctionseven wrote:
Does anyone else not like all this Pinocchio sh1t that appears to be used by a few people?
I'm not sure about other people on here but I don't think it's in the least bit funny bu do think it's disrespectful.
It was bad enough when we had some on here who still couldn't spell Adkins after two and a half years.
Can't we just learn and use the new fellas name or just use his initials if it's a bit to difficult for some.
I'm not a moaner and do like a good laugh and joke etc but this is as bad as the tango man comments about NA
COYR Good luck MP

Scarborosaint wrote:

st1halo wrote:

Scarborosaint wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Scarborosaint wrote:
It's a simple concept this chairmen lark mr cortese, you choose a manager , you deal with business giving the manager money to invest in the squad, the manager deals with the football side, if he gets it wrong you sack him and get a new one in, somewhere along the line you forgot that NA just gained 2 promotions bought young promising players in to the club , had gained confidence after a shaky start to the premiership and was popular with the supporters.
If you were looking for the right way to do it , look at mr Coates at Stoke let's Tony pullis do his job , never interferes and backs him to make the right choices in the transfer Market . Simples

.. and they lost today, funny that.

And your Point is ?? They have been in prem for over 5 years and are above us in the league

And they will probably be in the same position in 5 years from now.
I just don't think you're understanding Cortese's vision Scarboro!

STID

Vision he just wants to interfere in footballing matters !! There is a limit to where we can go , there is no limitless amounts of money to spend , we will never get 40k plus every week , we need to develop players via the academy , to stay in the premiership is the goal this seasons why hamper the best chance of doing that midway through the season ,
Anybody can have a vision when it's not their money to spend , ML will be turning in his grave at how bad the club have been made to look, all you cortese lovers wake up and smell the coffee , this bloke ain't a visionary this bloke is a control freak who likes to get his own way .
Been in football at all levels seen chairmen with the same problem many times first hand , they are not true supporters just see the club as a way to increase their profiles and fill their egos .
I and most of you will be supporting the saints a long time after mr cortese has left .

Carinthian Saint wrote:
I don't think there is anything new to add that hasn't been said 100 times already. I, like many others, have felt upset & angry over the last 24 / 36 hours about this news that has shook our club as a whole. But like most of us are, we now accept it & continue supporting our team. If people want to boycott the game on Monday that's their decision, if some would rather support Nigel himself then drive safely every other fortnight up to Blackburn, then in another 2 years you could well become a Liverpool supporter, again drive safely.

But for the majority of true fans they will be supporting Southampton FC tomorrow night in what ever capacity they can & will continue to do so for eternity, as will I.

Just this morning I was looking at the photos on Saints OS from yesterdays training. Mauricio Pochettino looks like he can talk the talk (albeit with a pocket translator for now). But can he walk the walk? Only time will tell. He may well have a shaky start but he will have 100% support from me through thick & thin as he will from 1000's of other Sants fans. A morale boost for me was seeing the players response to him, seeing them laughing, joking & training. They are professionals & will act accordingly. We have to be professional fans & continue with what we have been doing in the past. That will never change. Saints need us now more than ever.

After each game Nigel would debrief with the team, get 1 Negative & 5 Positives from it, draw a line under it then move on to the next one. I think we can liken NA's managerial reign here to any match. We have all been debriefing it on here over the last couple of days. 1 Negative from me would be that I didn't agree with certain sub choices that he made at times (that being said I thought at Chelsea he got it bang on, just a shame we conceded in the first half). 5 positives? I could come up with over 500 positives as I'm sure most of us could. Now we thank Nigel for all he has done, wish him all the very best for the future, but we have to draw a line under his name & move on to Mauricio Pochettino.

TOGETHER AS ONE.

Oh when the Saints, go marching in,
Oh when the Saints go marching in,
I wanna be in that number,
When the Saints go marching in.

RED ARMY, RED ARMY, RED ARMY, RED ARMY,
RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRMY!

warrens 76 wrote:
A TRUCE please.

Whatever everyone's personal reactions and over-reactions this has got to stop...

Firstly: the club NEED us whoever is in charge, all who think they are being loyal to NA, ask yourself would he want to see his work undone, the effort all for nothing, fans tearing each oter apart..NO, you dishonour him by being disloyal to the club...

Secondly: We love NA for his decency, dignity and SUCCESS, all this moralising would not exist if he had missed promotion last season and we did almost blow it...had we been firmly in the relegation zone would everyone be so outraged.NO...it is because he was succesfull AND decent not just the decency..so those who are venting at NA are you holier than thou?

Three: I wish NA had not gone HOWEVER I will not deny that some of our panicking and giving up possession, speed of play, and substitutions left me worried, I believe we can do better whether that was due to NA is yet to be seen.

Four: NC....judging from our early start he would be neglectful in the extreme if he did NOT line up successors...many including myself thought that we were getting there....

Five: our recent results look flattering in comparison to our early season form nonetheless we still have lost more points from leading positions than any other team.

Six: If we want a glowing future we have to think ahead, our greatest asset is our academy...as potential constant relegation candidates (if NA had reached his limits) those players who want honours and european football will always be destined to leave us...

Seven: If our academy grows and links in with Argentinian and Spanish youth and boy can they play..I ask all fans to think of the implications!!!

Remember that picture of the enlarged stadium, european football and a feeling of loyalty and belonging to all those poor SOUTHERN kids with no identity but a mufco shirt....

If Cortese gets it wrong he will pay the price....NA will always be a wonderful person to us, let us not forget what he taught us...together as one...

I remember the interview at the end of last season..the writing was on the wall for a long time...

I will miss him AND I want the South to for once have a chance to join the big league, with this in mind the new guy has to be welcomed and NC judged end of season we have a difficult run in did NC stick or twist who can tell until the fat lady sings.

st1halo wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:
A TRUCE please.

Whatever everyone's personal reactions and over-reactions this has got to stop...

Firstly: the club NEED us whoever is in charge, all who think they are being loyal to NA, ask yourself would he want to see his work undone, the effort all for nothing, fans tearing each oter apart..NO, you dishonour him by being disloyal to the club...

Secondly: We love NA for his decency, dignity and SUCCESS, all this moralising would not exist if he had missed promotion last season and we did almost blow it...had we been firmly in the relegation zone would everyone be so outraged.NO...it is because he was succesfull AND decent not just the decency..so those who are venting at NA are you holier than thou?

Three: I wish NA had not gone HOWEVER I will not deny that some of our panicking and giving up possession, speed of play, and substitutions left me worried, I believe we can do better whether that was due to NA is yet to be seen.

Four: NC....judging from our early start he would be neglectful in the extreme if he did NOT line up successors...many including myself thought that we were getting there....

Five: our recent results look flattering in comparison to our early season form nonetheless we still have lost more points from leading positions than any other team.

Six: If we want a glowing future we have to think ahead, our greatest asset is our academy...as potential constant relegation candidates (if NA had reached his limits) those players who want honours and european football will always be destined to leave us...

Seven: If our academy grows and links in with Argentinian and Spanish youth and boy can they play..I ask all fans to think of the implications!!!

Remember that picture of the enlarged stadium, european football and a feeling of loyalty and belonging to all those poor SOUTHERN kids with no identity but a mufco shirt....

If Cortese gets it wrong he will pay the price....NA will always be a wonderful person to us, let us not forget what he taught us...together as one...

I remember the interview at the end of last season..the writing was on the wall for a long time...

I will miss him AND I want the South to for once have a chance to join the big league, with this in mind the new guy has to be welcomed and NC judged end of season we have a difficult run in did NC stick or twist who can tell until the fat lady sings.

Exactly warrens, good post

Personally I want us to be playing against and associated with the best teams in Europe. I believe Cortese has the ambition to take us there and for any who have enjoyed the last three years, they have him to thank just as much, if not more so than Nigel.
There is no doubt that he is a driven and ambitious man and can be ruthless but he does have principles to a degree. We do not know all the issues surrounding NA, we do not know that his tenure as coach officially ended with us reaching the PL (he certainly alluded to a parting of the ways being inevitable) and maybe he was given extra time to prove himself. The reality is he was struggling and imo we would roll along just like the other mid-table clubs from now on if he improved.
When we got the result at Chelsea the other day, all the pundits and media talked about was Chelsea, not us. I don't want that attitude to continue. The "family" club with integrity died along time ago when Lowe arrived. He drained, starved and bankrupted the club for his own personal gain. But from the ashes one man has steered our return to the PL with investment and proper stewardship.
We all liked Nigel, we all love Matty but we wouln't put him in the team would we?
The kneejerk reactions I have seen over the last few days have been scandalous, without NC there would have been no Nigel Adkins and no Southampton FC.
Lowe deserved the vitriol, Cortese does not. Fans may not trust him because he can be ruthless, they may not like him because he stays out of the limelight or because he is not sentimental but the very least that Saints fans owe (and he deserves) is gratitude for restoring our club to it's rightful place.


Enjoy the ride!

STID”

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I don't know what to make of it all to be honest.

I suppose we need to decide what we want as a club. Is it success at any price? Is it morality and integrity?

st1halo wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I don't know what to make of it all to be honest.

I suppose we need to decide what we want as a club. Is it success at any price? Is it morality and integrity?

It's all fcuked your head a bit hasn't it Seed, I can tell by your posts.
We must evolve, we don't know what has gone on behind the scenes and it could be that the decisions were made with integrity and morally but we are not a party to them.
It could be Nigel's tenure was already over and he knew it but was given extra time. I'm glad he has gone at his time with an unblemished cv and that could have been planned! Who knows?
We owe Nigel a lot and thereby owe NC a lot too for bringing him in
I'm sure Nigel would like us to go forward and be succesful so that he can look back and say I was a part of that.
We must all be a part, get behind our beloved club and enjoy the ride.

STID

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Take me, I worked over 48 years with the same Company, I made the odd mistake, but the company knew I was good at the job, so they kept me on, and I finished with a completely unblemished record, they didn't know that's what would have happened when they employed me, I could have been a complete disaster. Nicola has made good decisions, but not always perfect ones, this is his biggest gamble yet, we have to trust his judgement, if it goes wrong, the clever dicks can say I told you so, while the idiots can say sorry I got that wrong, so what is the problem?