Saints' FA Cup winner Jim Steele turned away from St Mary's Stadium

JIM STEELE and LAWRIE McMENEMY

JIM STEELE and LAWRIE McMENEMY

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SAINTS legend Jim Steele has revealed he was asked to leave the Dell Sports Bar at St Mary’s earlier this season.

Steele, man of the match when Saints won the 1976 FA Cup final, was ejected from the cafe shortly after moving back to the area in September.

The 62 year-old said: “I’d heard all the things about Le Tissier and Cortese and this and that so when I bought two tickets for the Aston Villa game soon after moving down, I gave my name as ‘James Steele’.

“I was hardly going to say ‘Jim Steele’ even though the girl at the ticket office was only young and wouldn’t have known who I was.

“But the guy behind her said ‘I thought it was you Steeley!’ I said ‘don’t say anything, I might not get a ticket!’ “I don’t totally disagree with what’s been going on, so I bought two tickets thinking one of the ex-Saints would show up sooner or later.

“I went on to the supporters’ club below the stand and two or three came over to shake my hand and say it was great to see me back in town.

“Then this young kid came over and said ‘are you a member sir’? I said ‘no I’m an ex-Saint’ and he said ‘sorry you’re not allowed in, this is a supporters’ club’.

“I don’t blame Cortese for making us buy tickets but to not be allowed in the supporters club...! It wasn’t as if I wanted a free drink or anything!

“I love Saints but this sort of thing doesn’t happen at any other top club. It doesn’t make sense.

“After being thrown out I wasn’t even going to go to the game, but the pub round the corner made me feel so welcome. “I went with one of them in the end and it was a great win. I’ve been to every game since.”

Saints declined to comment.

Full interview in today's Sports Pink

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6:08am Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

This is the second article they have run on this. All very negative.

Why do some ex-Saints have trouble and others do not?

Did Jim Steele try to arrange anything with the club, or cafe in advance or did he just turn up?

If he just turned up it does put the people running the Cafe in an unfair, awkward position.

From the sound of the article, I doubt Cortese would have even have been aware of it.
This is the second article they have run on this. All very negative. Why do some ex-Saints have trouble and others do not? Did Jim Steele try to arrange anything with the club, or cafe in advance or did he just turn up? If he just turned up it does put the people running the Cafe in an unfair, awkward position. From the sound of the article, I doubt Cortese would have even have been aware of it. Thornhill Saint
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6:17am Sun 27 Jan 13

DisgustedofBognor says...

I agree. Another very negative article and whilst I do not agree with the poor treatment of ex Saints, a little pre-planning (i.e. a phone call) would/could have gone a long way to gaining membership.

I do not think that NC is trying to erase our history, what history? Ok so we won the FA CUP and stayed in the top division despite limited resources for much of our past but I believe this club is going somewhere now and like any successful business, you do not get there by clinging on to the past.
I agree. Another very negative article and whilst I do not agree with the poor treatment of ex Saints, a little pre-planning (i.e. a phone call) would/could have gone a long way to gaining membership. I do not think that NC is trying to erase our history, what history? Ok so we won the FA CUP and stayed in the top division despite limited resources for much of our past but I believe this club is going somewhere now and like any successful business, you do not get there by clinging on to the past. DisgustedofBognor
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6:25am Sun 27 Jan 13

verwoodsaint says...

Another Ex Saint trying to do damage to our club ! Move on boys , please ...
Another Ex Saint trying to do damage to our club ! Move on boys , please ... verwoodsaint
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6:45am Sun 27 Jan 13

saints-fanathotmail.co.uk says...

another negative article fromthe echo and probably not a coincidence that it is published here one hour before NC tv interview and on day of Sun exclusive!!!
where were all these ex players when Lowe was dragging this club nearly to oblivion. A cynic would say they were too busy enjoying all the free hospitality that he dished out to them in return for their unquestionning support of his regime.
another negative article fromthe echo and probably not a coincidence that it is published here one hour before NC tv interview and on day of Sun exclusive!!! where were all these ex players when Lowe was dragging this club nearly to oblivion. A cynic would say they were too busy enjoying all the free hospitality that he dished out to them in return for their unquestionning support of his regime. saints-fanathotmail.co.uk
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7:21am Sun 27 Jan 13

Tirau Dan says...

Total respect to Jim but its a members only Club bar.. you pay a sub to drink there. Staff can't serve non-members ex saint or not.

I run a members only services social club, its cheap but ex services can't have free access - life membership is given to those club members who give a very long distinguished service to the club like 20 or 30yrs!
The honour is not given lightly.

Membership of the dell sports bar is 45 quid - there are other bars.
Total respect to Jim but its a members only Club bar.. you pay a sub to drink there. Staff can't serve non-members ex saint or not. I run a members only services social club, its cheap but ex services can't have free access - life membership is given to those club members who give a very long distinguished service to the club like 20 or 30yrs! The honour is not given lightly. Membership of the dell sports bar is 45 quid - there are other bars. Tirau Dan
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7:44am Sun 27 Jan 13

milton road says...

I remember Mel Blyth and Jim Steele at the back they were a tough pairing.
Okay take note of the posts above but all Jim was trying to do was buy a drink in the supporters club, lol not after anything free. Maybe it could of been handled better and he could of been asked if he wanted to take out membership or allowed in as a guest for a day.
In the end though the lad was following the rules and it was not discrimination against Jim, it was policy for anyone.
Yes as we know it is the echo on its crusade against Cortese. With anti club articles again.
Its taking a long time here for people to realize that the real world finally caught up with Saints. It is no longer a family club but a business, that has to attain certain goals. There is no sentiment, except on the terraces and pitch, certainly not in the boardroom of any major club these days.
When football football got into big TV deals it sold its soul and the game on and off the field changed radically for right and wrong.
Having watched Saints for 50 years I disagree there is no history. Other than 8 or 10 clubs i bet the rest of the league would snatch our hand off in that respect. There is no one that comes within a mile of us on the south in that period. Not reading, brighton, bournemouth, pompey, aldtershot, no one.
I remember Mel Blyth and Jim Steele at the back they were a tough pairing. Okay take note of the posts above but all Jim was trying to do was buy a drink in the supporters club, lol not after anything free. Maybe it could of been handled better and he could of been asked if he wanted to take out membership or allowed in as a guest for a day. In the end though the lad was following the rules and it was not discrimination against Jim, it was policy for anyone. Yes as we know it is the echo on its crusade against Cortese. With anti club articles again. Its taking a long time here for people to realize that the real world finally caught up with Saints. It is no longer a family club but a business, that has to attain certain goals. There is no sentiment, except on the terraces and pitch, certainly not in the boardroom of any major club these days. When football football got into big TV deals it sold its soul and the game on and off the field changed radically for right and wrong. Having watched Saints for 50 years I disagree there is no history. Other than 8 or 10 clubs i bet the rest of the league would snatch our hand off in that respect. There is no one that comes within a mile of us on the south in that period. Not reading, brighton, bournemouth, pompey, aldtershot, no one. milton road
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7:51am Sun 27 Jan 13

joenice1 says...

I actually feel that the club should recognise their past, hope he comes back.

COYS
I actually feel that the club should recognise their past, hope he comes back. COYS joenice1
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7:52am Sun 27 Jan 13

nedscrumpo says...

As far as I am concerned ex players should have the freedom of the ground. The club are happy to display pictures of teams and players from the past. What's wrong with the real thing?
As far as I am concerned ex players should have the freedom of the ground. The club are happy to display pictures of teams and players from the past. What's wrong with the real thing? nedscrumpo
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7:54am Sun 27 Jan 13

costa gaz says...

I can understand the points given about the dell cafe being a private members club, but the general treatment given to past players/managers is a little out of order.
You couldn't imagine the likes of Everton, L'pool, Manu, Arsenal etc...etc.... behaving this way to yesterdays hero's.
We seem to be heading down the Chelsea road where fans have become completely alienated from the club.

I know Dear Leader is hell bent on success, but surely most of the PR disasters of late could have been avoided.
I can understand the points given about the dell cafe being a private members club, but the general treatment given to past players/managers is a little out of order. You couldn't imagine the likes of Everton, L'pool, Manu, Arsenal etc...etc.... behaving this way to yesterdays hero's. We seem to be heading down the Chelsea road where fans have become completely alienated from the club. I know Dear Leader is hell bent on success, but surely most of the PR disasters of late could have been avoided. costa gaz
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7:58am Sun 27 Jan 13

skatebait says...

He's an ex player, not a bloody war hero..... The club PAID you to play football for them... that is all.. I don't try and get a cup of tea from my old boss at the newsagents. ... although I was a good paperboy.
He's an ex player, not a bloody war hero..... The club PAID you to play football for them... that is all.. I don't try and get a cup of tea from my old boss at the newsagents. ... although I was a good paperboy. skatebait
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8:02am Sun 27 Jan 13

milton road says...

Lol like the article in the sun good read. MP gives an interview and comes over really well.
Asked if he he is worried about Fergie he says, Yes i am worried he may not like the wine i give him.
Lol like the article in the sun good read. MP gives an interview and comes over really well. Asked if he he is worried about Fergie he says, Yes i am worried he may not like the wine i give him. milton road
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8:15am Sun 27 Jan 13

skatebait says...

I LOVE Cortese
I LOVE Cortese skatebait
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8:19am Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

nedscrumpo wrote:
As far as I am concerned ex players should have the freedom of the ground. The club are happy to display pictures of teams and players from the past. What's wrong with the real thing?
There are certain players that I wouldn't let loose anywhere near the ground! However there should be a bit of respect for good club servants. Much as I like Jim Steele it is not good form to go down this track, and not helpful for the future which is more important than the past at the moment. The Cortese interview simply didn't ask the right questions, I haven't seen the Sun version yet. NC was asking us to go along with his plans, OK but please try and meet us halfway so that we can do it together. The best way to go is to engage with the people that are using their scarce funds to follow the Club that they support. Informative news will stop the speculation. On a final note, a word of thanks to Nigel Adkins would help closure.
[quote][p][bold]nedscrumpo[/bold] wrote: As far as I am concerned ex players should have the freedom of the ground. The club are happy to display pictures of teams and players from the past. What's wrong with the real thing?[/p][/quote]There are certain players that I wouldn't let loose anywhere near the ground! However there should be a bit of respect for good club servants. Much as I like Jim Steele it is not good form to go down this track, and not helpful for the future which is more important than the past at the moment. The Cortese interview simply didn't ask the right questions, I haven't seen the Sun version yet. NC was asking us to go along with his plans, OK but please try and meet us halfway so that we can do it together. The best way to go is to engage with the people that are using their scarce funds to follow the Club that they support. Informative news will stop the speculation. On a final note, a word of thanks to Nigel Adkins would help closure. OSPREYSAINT
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8:23am Sun 27 Jan 13

SaintinCanada says...

It is a non-story in the first place.
It is a non-story in the first place. SaintinCanada
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8:25am Sun 27 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

4
4 Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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8:29am Sun 27 Jan 13

new forest saint says...

Well done 'Echo' for another bitter and pointless article ..... pathetic !!
Well done 'Echo' for another bitter and pointless article ..... pathetic !! new forest saint
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8:30am Sun 27 Jan 13

Block41row0sfc says...

Negative!
Negative! Block41row0sfc
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8:31am Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

http://www.thesun.co
.uk/sol/homepage/spo
rt/football/4764653/
Mauricio-Pochettinos
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ir-Alex-will-hate-hi
s-wine.html

For a Sun article, Mo Po has a 2 and half year project to fulfil.
http://www.thesun.co .uk/sol/homepage/spo rt/football/4764653/ Mauricio-Pochettinos -biggest-fear-That-S ir-Alex-will-hate-hi s-wine.html For a Sun article, Mo Po has a 2 and half year project to fulfil. OSPREYSAINT
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8:32am Sun 27 Jan 13

franiow says...

Agree a non story. He went into a members only bar and was asked to leave by a member of staff. How many people have played for SFC over the years. This is an blatant case of mudslinging.
Agree a non story. He went into a members only bar and was asked to leave by a member of staff. How many people have played for SFC over the years. This is an blatant case of mudslinging. franiow
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8:32am Sun 27 Jan 13

Block41row0sfc says...

skatebait wrote:
He's an ex player, not a bloody war hero..... The club PAID you to play football for them... that is all.. I don't try and get a cup of tea from my old boss at the newsagents. ... although I was a good paperboy.
Brilliant post.
[quote][p][bold]skatebait[/bold] wrote: He's an ex player, not a bloody war hero..... The club PAID you to play football for them... that is all.. I don't try and get a cup of tea from my old boss at the newsagents. ... although I was a good paperboy.[/p][/quote]Brilliant post. Block41row0sfc
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8:33am Sun 27 Jan 13

Hercules Grytpype-Thynne says...

I've been a supporter since long before Jim Steele played for Saints and they wont let me into that club unless I pay, What does Cortese think he's doing? The man is ruining our great club by stopping all of this freeloading by ex players.
I've been a supporter since long before Jim Steele played for Saints and they wont let me into that club unless I pay, What does Cortese think he's doing? The man is ruining our great club by stopping all of this freeloading by ex players. Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
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8:34am Sun 27 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

I think Cortese's stopping of the freebies is a good move but when your cup wining MOTM is scared to give his proper name incase he is refused a ticket then it's gone way to far.
I think Cortese's stopping of the freebies is a good move but when your cup wining MOTM is scared to give his proper name incase he is refused a ticket then it's gone way to far. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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8:37am Sun 27 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

franiow wrote:
Agree a non story. He went into a members only bar and was asked to leave by a member of staff. How many people have played for SFC over the years. This is an blatant case of mudslinging.
Agreed but being scared to gve your name at the ticket office isn't good.
[quote][p][bold]franiow[/bold] wrote: Agree a non story. He went into a members only bar and was asked to leave by a member of staff. How many people have played for SFC over the years. This is an blatant case of mudslinging.[/p][/quote]Agreed but being scared to gve your name at the ticket office isn't good. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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8:41am Sun 27 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

Block41row0sfc wrote:
skatebait wrote:
He's an ex player, not a bloody war hero..... The club PAID you to play football for them... that is all.. I don't try and get a cup of tea from my old boss at the newsagents. ... although I was a good paperboy.
Brilliant post.
Your right skatebait, though he could have at least contacted the club first to say he would like to go in to chat with the fans. I don't expect to rock up at an old job I did really well at 15 years ago and expect them to let me help myself to the free coffee..
[quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skatebait[/bold] wrote: He's an ex player, not a bloody war hero..... The club PAID you to play football for them... that is all.. I don't try and get a cup of tea from my old boss at the newsagents. ... although I was a good paperboy.[/p][/quote]Brilliant post.[/p][/quote]Your right skatebait, though he could have at least contacted the club first to say he would like to go in to chat with the fans. I don't expect to rock up at an old job I did really well at 15 years ago and expect them to let me help myself to the free coffee.. SaintMax
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8:45am Sun 27 Jan 13

SaintMax says...

The more I look at this the more its smacks of DE stirring up negatively against NC.
He has the clubs best interests at heart ultimately in everything he does.
The more I look at this the more its smacks of DE stirring up negatively against NC. He has the clubs best interests at heart ultimately in everything he does. SaintMax
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8:48am Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

SaintMax wrote:
The more I look at this the more its smacks of DE stirring up negatively against NC.
He has the clubs best interests at heart ultimately in everything he does.
As long as it sells the paper I guess they don't much care either way, very downbeat at a time when we are on a slight uphill run with the rollercoaster ride that is Saints progress.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: The more I look at this the more its smacks of DE stirring up negatively against NC. He has the clubs best interests at heart ultimately in everything he does.[/p][/quote]As long as it sells the paper I guess they don't much care either way, very downbeat at a time when we are on a slight uphill run with the rollercoaster ride that is Saints progress. OSPREYSAINT
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8:50am Sun 27 Jan 13

new forest saint says...

saints-fanathotmail.
co.uk
wrote:
another negative article fromthe echo and probably not a coincidence that it is published here one hour before NC tv interview and on day of Sun exclusive!!!
where were all these ex players when Lowe was dragging this club nearly to oblivion. A cynic would say they were too busy enjoying all the free hospitality that he dished out to them in return for their unquestionning support of his regime.
exactly !!... keep up the witch hunt 'daily echo' ..... you're readers can get their proper Saints news and exclusives from more informed sources such as the Sun and SSN !!
[quote][p][bold]saints-fanathotmail. co.uk[/bold] wrote: another negative article fromthe echo and probably not a coincidence that it is published here one hour before NC tv interview and on day of Sun exclusive!!! where were all these ex players when Lowe was dragging this club nearly to oblivion. A cynic would say they were too busy enjoying all the free hospitality that he dished out to them in return for their unquestionning support of his regime.[/p][/quote]exactly !!... keep up the witch hunt 'daily echo' ..... you're readers can get their proper Saints news and exclusives from more informed sources such as the Sun and SSN !! new forest saint
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8:51am Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
nedscrumpo wrote:
As far as I am concerned ex players should have the freedom of the ground. The club are happy to display pictures of teams and players from the past. What's wrong with the real thing?
There are certain players that I wouldn't let loose anywhere near the ground! However there should be a bit of respect for good club servants. Much as I like Jim Steele it is not good form to go down this track, and not helpful for the future which is more important than the past at the moment. The Cortese interview simply didn't ask the right questions, I haven't seen the Sun version yet. NC was asking us to go along with his plans, OK but please try and meet us halfway so that we can do it together. The best way to go is to engage with the people that are using their scarce funds to follow the Club that they support. Informative news will stop the speculation. On a final note, a word of thanks to Nigel Adkins would help closure.
Cortese did not thank Nigel, but he did say it was difficult for him. He indicated that it was hard for him not because of results but because of their great personal relationship. That along withis his acknowledgement might just make a half an apology. Maybe he feels thank you like transfers should be done behind closed doors!!

Cortese indicated that it was the right time to make the change for the team. The sun indicated the training ground had gone stale and there may have been some player pressure in Adkins sacking. Total gossip but Will Fox stated "Wow, Adkins was sacked was cuz the players told Cortese he was tactically inept. Lambert & Schneiderlin were main protagonists "

Lets face it most on here have criricised Adkins substitutions and subs at some point,

He is willing to sacrifice his reputation but he thinks those that aim negative comments do so without knowing him and harm the club. He would never dream of doing it to them! Nice he showed he is not delusional and he is aware of Le Tiss and the pounding his reputation has taken.

In running the club, he explained he was not ruthless, but a perfectionist. Could explain the program sellers, old program stand, withdrawal of freebies, re-organsation of catering (and reversing the decision). The one issue I take issue with in his area, How did it happen that they allowed the case with Solent Interiors get to court and then not even bother showing up or commenting afterwards. Great attention to detail Cortese.

Apart from that, a reasonable interview.

We are all welcome as long as we have the club in our hearts.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nedscrumpo[/bold] wrote: As far as I am concerned ex players should have the freedom of the ground. The club are happy to display pictures of teams and players from the past. What's wrong with the real thing?[/p][/quote]There are certain players that I wouldn't let loose anywhere near the ground! However there should be a bit of respect for good club servants. Much as I like Jim Steele it is not good form to go down this track, and not helpful for the future which is more important than the past at the moment. The Cortese interview simply didn't ask the right questions, I haven't seen the Sun version yet. NC was asking us to go along with his plans, OK but please try and meet us halfway so that we can do it together. The best way to go is to engage with the people that are using their scarce funds to follow the Club that they support. Informative news will stop the speculation. On a final note, a word of thanks to Nigel Adkins would help closure.[/p][/quote]Cortese did not thank Nigel, but he did say it was difficult for him. He indicated that it was hard for him not because of results but because of their great personal relationship. That along withis his acknowledgement might just make a half an apology. Maybe he feels thank you like transfers should be done behind closed doors!! Cortese indicated that it was the right time to make the change for the team. The sun indicated the training ground had gone stale and there may have been some player pressure in Adkins sacking. Total gossip but Will Fox stated "Wow, Adkins was sacked was cuz the players told Cortese he was tactically inept. Lambert & Schneiderlin were main protagonists " Lets face it most on here have criricised Adkins substitutions and subs at some point, He is willing to sacrifice his reputation but he thinks those that aim negative comments do so without knowing him and harm the club. He would never dream of doing it to them! Nice he showed he is not delusional and he is aware of Le Tiss and the pounding his reputation has taken. In running the club, he explained he was not ruthless, but a perfectionist. Could explain the program sellers, old program stand, withdrawal of freebies, re-organsation of catering (and reversing the decision). The one issue I take issue with in his area, How did it happen that they allowed the case with Solent Interiors get to court and then not even bother showing up or commenting afterwards. Great attention to detail Cortese. Apart from that, a reasonable interview. We are all welcome as long as we have the club in our hearts. Thornhill Saint
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9:04am Sun 27 Jan 13

costa gaz says...

For those of you who bang on about the negativity of the echo.
The editor's job is to sell papers and to get as many hits on it's website as possible.
To do this the editor has to be ruthless and will probably have to forego his popularity to achieve his goal.
He will probably have to tread on a few toes and make decisions that will not please everyone.
Some of you do not like this, but when Dear Leader acts in this manner, everything is good eh?
;-)
For those of you who bang on about the negativity of the echo. The editor's job is to sell papers and to get as many hits on it's website as possible. To do this the editor has to be ruthless and will probably have to forego his popularity to achieve his goal. He will probably have to tread on a few toes and make decisions that will not please everyone. Some of you do not like this, but when Dear Leader acts in this manner, everything is good eh? ;-) costa gaz
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9:15am Sun 27 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

I agree with the majority of comments that thiscisca negative article no doubt designed to undermine NC. For Gods sake can't we just move on. NC as fracas I can see is doing a good job. I've been critical of him in the past but I see now that he has the best interests of the club at heart. I think his change in manager will turn out to be inspirational. He's clearly taking it very seriously as he has been fully involved with the team whilst they have been in Barcelona this week. Where is the DE reporting that? For once let's give the man some credit and to those at the DE the benefit of the doubt. Please DE stop latching on to these minor petty incidents that are designed to cast doubt over NC they're getting boring!!!!!
I agree with the majority of comments that thiscisca negative article no doubt designed to undermine NC. For Gods sake can't we just move on. NC as fracas I can see is doing a good job. I've been critical of him in the past but I see now that he has the best interests of the club at heart. I think his change in manager will turn out to be inspirational. He's clearly taking it very seriously as he has been fully involved with the team whilst they have been in Barcelona this week. Where is the DE reporting that? For once let's give the man some credit and to those at the DE the benefit of the doubt. Please DE stop latching on to these minor petty incidents that are designed to cast doubt over NC they're getting boring!!!!! saintlysoul
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9:16am Sun 27 Jan 13

Iceland Saint says...

Did the club not just give an ex - saint Terry Paine a big award and treat him very well?
Did the club not just give an ex - saint Terry Paine a big award and treat him very well? Iceland Saint
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9:22am Sun 27 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

costa gaz wrote:
For those of you who bang on about the negativity of the echo.

The editor's job is to sell papers and to get as many hits on it's website as possible.
To do this the editor has to be ruthless and will probably have to forego his popularity to achieve his goal.
He will probably have to tread on a few toes and make decisions that will not please everyone.
Some of you do not like this, but when Dear Leader acts in this manner, everything is good eh?
;-)
Good point.

Now visit all the other local newspapers who also have to sell newspapers and achieve hits and find one that is negative about it's local team. Funnily enough they sell theirs by being uber positive about their teams.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: For those of you who bang on about the negativity of the echo. The editor's job is to sell papers and to get as many hits on it's website as possible. To do this the editor has to be ruthless and will probably have to forego his popularity to achieve his goal. He will probably have to tread on a few toes and make decisions that will not please everyone. Some of you do not like this, but when Dear Leader acts in this manner, everything is good eh? ;-)[/p][/quote]Good point. Now visit all the other local newspapers who also have to sell newspapers and achieve hits and find one that is negative about it's local team. Funnily enough they sell theirs by being uber positive about their teams. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:23am Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
For those of you who bang on about the negativity of the echo.
The editor's job is to sell papers and to get as many hits on it's website as possible.
To do this the editor has to be ruthless and will probably have to forego his popularity to achieve his goal.
He will probably have to tread on a few toes and make decisions that will not please everyone.
Some of you do not like this, but when Dear Leader acts in this manner, everything is good eh?
;-)
The Echo Editor will stop at nothing, Nicola Cortese will stop at nothing, interesting parallels there don't you think?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: For those of you who bang on about the negativity of the echo. The editor's job is to sell papers and to get as many hits on it's website as possible. To do this the editor has to be ruthless and will probably have to forego his popularity to achieve his goal. He will probably have to tread on a few toes and make decisions that will not please everyone. Some of you do not like this, but when Dear Leader acts in this manner, everything is good eh? ;-)[/p][/quote]The Echo Editor will stop at nothing, Nicola Cortese will stop at nothing, interesting parallels there don't you think? OSPREYSAINT
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9:34am Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Just to Pre-empt the Echo:

Le Tiss is not happy because:

a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets

b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house)

c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet

d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful.

He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences.

Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good.
Just to Pre-empt the Echo: Le Tiss is not happy because: a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house) c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful. He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences. Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good. Thornhill Saint
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9:40am Sun 27 Jan 13

costa gaz says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
For those of you who bang on about the negativity of the echo.

The editor's job is to sell papers and to get as many hits on it's website as possible.
To do this the editor has to be ruthless and will probably have to forego his popularity to achieve his goal.
He will probably have to tread on a few toes and make decisions that will not please everyone.
Some of you do not like this, but when Dear Leader acts in this manner, everything is good eh?
;-)
Good point.

Now visit all the other local newspapers who also have to sell newspapers and achieve hits and find one that is negative about it's local team. Funnily enough they sell theirs by being uber positive about their teams.
But seed, before the echo were banned for revealing the training grounds plans.
they had a good relationship.
He did a u-turn with the nationals regarding the match photos, why on earth wouldn't he want the local paper onside.
Most of the sfc stories come from other sources, but the DE still get blamed for publishing them.
If they are allowed back in I'm sure the situation will change.

PS... All of the negative stories in the echo are actual events and some fans can bury their heads in the sand and blame the echo, but if there is a story out there, expect the paper to report it, good or bad.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: For those of you who bang on about the negativity of the echo. The editor's job is to sell papers and to get as many hits on it's website as possible. To do this the editor has to be ruthless and will probably have to forego his popularity to achieve his goal. He will probably have to tread on a few toes and make decisions that will not please everyone. Some of you do not like this, but when Dear Leader acts in this manner, everything is good eh? ;-)[/p][/quote]Good point. Now visit all the other local newspapers who also have to sell newspapers and achieve hits and find one that is negative about it's local team. Funnily enough they sell theirs by being uber positive about their teams.[/p][/quote]But seed, before the echo were banned for revealing the training grounds plans. they had a good relationship. He did a u-turn with the nationals regarding the match photos, why on earth wouldn't he want the local paper onside. Most of the sfc stories come from other sources, but the DE still get blamed for publishing them. If they are allowed back in I'm sure the situation will change. PS... All of the negative stories in the echo are actual events and some fans can bury their heads in the sand and blame the echo, but if there is a story out there, expect the paper to report it, good or bad. costa gaz
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9:41am Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

The free ticket story is false, it was a Sun story which they had to rescind afterwards, selective memory. The rest is all rather nebulous and mostly unproven hearsay, apart from the thanks to NA, which somehow hasn't happened for reasons we don't know. Although NC did say it was a tough decision to make, which is a back handed compliment. Yes I have heard that MLT has requested a clear the air meeting, if that works it would be quite a combination to take us forward, if not draw a line under it and move on.
The free ticket story is false, it was a Sun story which they had to rescind afterwards, selective memory. The rest is all rather nebulous and mostly unproven hearsay, apart from the thanks to NA, which somehow hasn't happened for reasons we don't know. Although NC did say it was a tough decision to make, which is a back handed compliment. Yes I have heard that MLT has requested a clear the air meeting, if that works it would be quite a combination to take us forward, if not draw a line under it and move on. OSPREYSAINT
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9:45am Sun 27 Jan 13

Baddesley Bill says...

A non member being refused a drink in a member's club.

Hold the headline....stop the press!!! ;0)
A non member being refused a drink in a member's club. Hold the headline....stop the press!!! ;0) Baddesley Bill
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9:47am Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
For those of you who bang on about the negativity of the echo.

The editor's job is to sell papers and to get as many hits on it's website as possible.
To do this the editor has to be ruthless and will probably have to forego his popularity to achieve his goal.
He will probably have to tread on a few toes and make decisions that will not please everyone.
Some of you do not like this, but when Dear Leader acts in this manner, everything is good eh?
;-)
Good point.

Now visit all the other local newspapers who also have to sell newspapers and achieve hits and find one that is negative about it's local team. Funnily enough they sell theirs by being uber positive about their teams.
Even The News!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: For those of you who bang on about the negativity of the echo. The editor's job is to sell papers and to get as many hits on it's website as possible. To do this the editor has to be ruthless and will probably have to forego his popularity to achieve his goal. He will probably have to tread on a few toes and make decisions that will not please everyone. Some of you do not like this, but when Dear Leader acts in this manner, everything is good eh? ;-)[/p][/quote]Good point. Now visit all the other local newspapers who also have to sell newspapers and achieve hits and find one that is negative about it's local team. Funnily enough they sell theirs by being uber positive about their teams.[/p][/quote]Even The News! OSPREYSAINT
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9:49am Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
A non member being refused a drink in a member's club.

Hold the headline....stop the press!!! ;0)
Reminds me of the old yarn about a pompous MP on a train, when challenged by the Guard for his ticket, he said "My face is my ticket", the Guard replied "I am obliged to punch all tickets!"
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: A non member being refused a drink in a member's club. Hold the headline....stop the press!!! ;0)[/p][/quote]Reminds me of the old yarn about a pompous MP on a train, when challenged by the Guard for his ticket, he said "My face is my ticket", the Guard replied "I am obliged to punch all tickets!" OSPREYSAINT
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9:55am Sun 27 Jan 13

Buddy SFC says...

As mentioned earlier in the tread , tap on the link below ..... Super interview , very interesting man and one that has ambition to take SFC further than any of us could dream !

Sure a ruthless businessmen but one that could really lift our profile to allow us to pick up the top signings , hold on to our youngsters and finish top six ....

http://www1.skysport
s.com/football/news/
11700/8445857/Southa
mpton-executive-chai
rman-Nicolas-Cortese
-defends-Nigel-Adkin
s-sacking
As mentioned earlier in the tread , tap on the link below ..... Super interview , very interesting man and one that has ambition to take SFC further than any of us could dream ! Sure a ruthless businessmen but one that could really lift our profile to allow us to pick up the top signings , hold on to our youngsters and finish top six .... http://www1.skysport s.com/football/news/ 11700/8445857/Southa mpton-executive-chai rman-Nicolas-Cortese -defends-Nigel-Adkin s-sacking Buddy SFC
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9:55am Sun 27 Jan 13

roofspace says...

There is an interview with Cortese online at http://www.skysports
.com/video/inline/0,
,20699_8445829,00.ht
ml Which is a P.R. Exercise. I like the **** (no mention of the reason he sacked Adkins) that everybody who has Southampton at heart is welcome at the club. Try telling that to Le God, Big Mac, Jim Steele and the programme sellers.
There is an interview with Cortese online at http://www.skysports .com/video/inline/0, ,20699_8445829,00.ht ml Which is a P.R. Exercise. I like the **** (no mention of the reason he sacked Adkins) that everybody who has Southampton at heart is welcome at the club. Try telling that to Le God, Big Mac, Jim Steele and the programme sellers. roofspace
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10:00am Sun 27 Jan 13

Buddy SFC says...

roofspace wrote:
There is an interview with Cortese online at http://www.skysports .com/video/inline/0, ,20699_8445829,00.ht ml Which is a P.R. Exercise. I like the **** (no mention of the reason he sacked Adkins) that everybody who has Southampton at heart is welcome at the club. Try telling that to Le God, Big Mac, Jim Steele and the programme sellers.
Name a sucessful business that doesn't have a tough leader ...... Gutted when NA went but to NC it was about moving to the next step , clearly discussed in the interview ........

If we all want an average Champiohship club , keep moaning and when NC gets fed up with the fans and he can gain his maximum return he will sell of behalf of himself and the family and we can return to have a consortium (PFC) with no money and no ambition !
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: There is an interview with Cortese online at http://www.skysports .com/video/inline/0, ,20699_8445829,00.ht ml Which is a P.R. Exercise. I like the **** (no mention of the reason he sacked Adkins) that everybody who has Southampton at heart is welcome at the club. Try telling that to Le God, Big Mac, Jim Steele and the programme sellers.[/p][/quote]Name a sucessful business that doesn't have a tough leader ...... Gutted when NA went but to NC it was about moving to the next step , clearly discussed in the interview ........ If we all want an average Champiohship club , keep moaning and when NC gets fed up with the fans and he can gain his maximum return he will sell of behalf of himself and the family and we can return to have a consortium (PFC) with no money and no ambition ! Buddy SFC
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10:03am Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

roofspace wrote:
There is an interview with Cortese online at http://www.skysports

.com/video/inline/0,

,20699_8445829,00.ht

ml Which is a P.R. Exercise. I like the **** (no mention of the reason he sacked Adkins) that everybody who has Southampton at heart is welcome at the club. Try telling that to Le God, Big Mac, Jim Steele and the programme sellers.
They are all welcome providing they buy a ticket, and if they want to drink in the Dell Cafe become a member.

Same for everybody.

It would be interesting to know if Franny really is banned, or if it is self imposed exile.
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: There is an interview with Cortese online at http://www.skysports .com/video/inline/0, ,20699_8445829,00.ht ml Which is a P.R. Exercise. I like the **** (no mention of the reason he sacked Adkins) that everybody who has Southampton at heart is welcome at the club. Try telling that to Le God, Big Mac, Jim Steele and the programme sellers.[/p][/quote]They are all welcome providing they buy a ticket, and if they want to drink in the Dell Cafe become a member. Same for everybody. It would be interesting to know if Franny really is banned, or if it is self imposed exile. Thornhill Saint
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10:04am Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Maybe he did not want to go too much into why he sacked Adkins out of respect for Adkins
Maybe he did not want to go too much into why he sacked Adkins out of respect for Adkins Thornhill Saint
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10:07am Sun 27 Jan 13

costa gaz says...

With Cortese, we have here footballs version of Michael O'Leary.
Unbelievable similarities.
With Cortese, we have here footballs version of Michael O'Leary. Unbelievable similarities. costa gaz
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10:08am Sun 27 Jan 13

ghk230473 says...

Cortese should write a book 'how to win friends and influence people!
Obviously it's more important for the club to be a success, but no bu99er likes him at all! Can all these people be wrong?
He has done an interview with sky defending his decision to sack Adkins, who IMO made mistakes tactically not just this season but last season too. Just strange he didn't give him until the end of this or at a time when/if he lost the changing room. Also funny he talks to the media but frowns on manager and players doing so. I just hope and pray we haven't got another Lowe!
Coyr
Cortese should write a book 'how to win friends and influence people! Obviously it's more important for the club to be a success, but no bu99er likes him at all! Can all these people be wrong? He has done an interview with sky defending his decision to sack Adkins, who IMO made mistakes tactically not just this season but last season too. Just strange he didn't give him until the end of this or at a time when/if he lost the changing room. Also funny he talks to the media but frowns on manager and players doing so. I just hope and pray we haven't got another Lowe! Coyr ghk230473
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10:09am Sun 27 Jan 13

iswhite10 says...

Nicholas sky interview says it all.
Support the guy, he's trying to make our club great
Nicholas sky interview says it all. Support the guy, he's trying to make our club great iswhite10
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10:10am Sun 27 Jan 13

Buddy SFC says...

Interesting stuff ..........' The Sun' with MP

Pochettino wants positive football. He likes his teams to press up the pitch and, during an evening training game here, was constantly urging his players to get the ball wide and play a higher tempo.

He said: “The first thing people can expect from me is my passion for the job. I want a spirit in the team — a side with a soul. I want us to be nice to watch with a lot of dynamism with the ball.”

Cortese is incredibly ambitious. He does not want to simply survive in the Premier League — he wants Saints playing European football.

Pochettino said: “There are no limits to our ambition. We’re looking to go as high as possible.

“We’ve our idea how we want to play. We don’t just want to win — we want to do that inside our philosophy.
Interesting stuff ..........' The Sun' with MP Pochettino wants positive football. He likes his teams to press up the pitch and, during an evening training game here, was constantly urging his players to get the ball wide and play a higher tempo. He said: “The first thing people can expect from me is my passion for the job. I want a spirit in the team — a side with a soul. I want us to be nice to watch with a lot of dynamism with the ball.” Cortese is incredibly ambitious. He does not want to simply survive in the Premier League — he wants Saints playing European football. Pochettino said: “There are no limits to our ambition. We’re looking to go as high as possible. “We’ve our idea how we want to play. We don’t just want to win — we want to do that inside our philosophy. Buddy SFC
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10:12am Sun 27 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
roofspace wrote:
There is an interview with Cortese online at http://www.skysports


.com/video/inline/0,


,20699_8445829,00.ht


ml Which is a P.R. Exercise. I like the **** (no mention of the reason he sacked Adkins) that everybody who has Southampton at heart is welcome at the club. Try telling that to Le God, Big Mac, Jim Steele and the programme sellers.
They are all welcome providing they buy a ticket, and if they want to drink in the Dell Cafe become a member.

Same for everybody.

It would be interesting to know if Franny really is banned, or if it is self imposed exile.
I asked the corporate manager last season (been sacked since) if I could bring him as my guest. She told me NO!
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: There is an interview with Cortese online at http://www.skysports .com/video/inline/0, ,20699_8445829,00.ht ml Which is a P.R. Exercise. I like the **** (no mention of the reason he sacked Adkins) that everybody who has Southampton at heart is welcome at the club. Try telling that to Le God, Big Mac, Jim Steele and the programme sellers.[/p][/quote]They are all welcome providing they buy a ticket, and if they want to drink in the Dell Cafe become a member. Same for everybody. It would be interesting to know if Franny really is banned, or if it is self imposed exile.[/p][/quote]I asked the corporate manager last season (been sacked since) if I could bring him as my guest. She told me NO! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:14am Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Cortese should write a book 'how to win friends and influence people!
Obviously it's more important for the club to be a success, but no bu99er likes him at all! Can all these people be wrong?
He has done an interview with sky defending his decision to sack Adkins, who IMO made mistakes tactically not just this season but last season too. Just strange he didn't give him until the end of this or at a time when/if he lost the changing room. Also funny he talks to the media but frowns on manager and players doing so. I just hope and pray we haven't got another Lowe!
Coyr
Maybe he did lose or was losing the changing room.

The Managers talk and and the players talk and tweet to the media all the time. Just because it is not negative does not mean it's not true.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Cortese should write a book 'how to win friends and influence people! Obviously it's more important for the club to be a success, but no bu99er likes him at all! Can all these people be wrong? He has done an interview with sky defending his decision to sack Adkins, who IMO made mistakes tactically not just this season but last season too. Just strange he didn't give him until the end of this or at a time when/if he lost the changing room. Also funny he talks to the media but frowns on manager and players doing so. I just hope and pray we haven't got another Lowe! Coyr[/p][/quote]Maybe he did lose or was losing the changing room. The Managers talk and and the players talk and tweet to the media all the time. Just because it is not negative does not mean it's not true. Thornhill Saint
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10:14am Sun 27 Jan 13

Buddy SFC says...

I was a NA 'Happy Clapper' as so many on here put it when they were slagging him of, but I can see why this has happened ...... I just think we are very lucky we have such a brave CEO, not many would have had the balls to do this when he did , but he did ........

So lets move on and see how the season moves on , but just remember where we are today compared to two years ago !
I was a NA 'Happy Clapper' as so many on here put it when they were slagging him of, but I can see why this has happened ...... I just think we are very lucky we have such a brave CEO, not many would have had the balls to do this when he did , but he did ........ So lets move on and see how the season moves on , but just remember where we are today compared to two years ago ! Buddy SFC
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10:17am Sun 27 Jan 13

saintysaintsaint says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Just to Pre-empt the Echo:

Le Tiss is not happy because:

a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets

b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house)

c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet

d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful.

He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences.

Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good.
1) Le Tis is not happy 'cause NC &ML beat him to buying the club, that is all. 2) If NC did 'trash his house', would he not be done for breaking and entering and criminal damage? Think it through before you post cr@p. 3) you have no idea whether he has apologised to NA or not. He could have done it behind closed doors, all you've heard is rumour. Again, think it through before you post cr@p, slating the guy who saved SFC. Besides as much as we love NA, having been given the team and resources he had been given, would anyone else have done a worse job?
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: Just to Pre-empt the Echo: Le Tiss is not happy because: a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house) c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful. He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences. Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good.[/p][/quote]1) Le Tis is not happy 'cause NC &ML beat him to buying the club, that is all. 2) If NC did 'trash his house', would he not be done for breaking and entering and criminal damage? Think it through before you post cr@p. 3) you have no idea whether he has apologised to NA or not. He could have done it behind closed doors, all you've heard is rumour. Again, think it through before you post cr@p, slating the guy who saved SFC. Besides as much as we love NA, having been given the team and resources he had been given, would anyone else have done a worse job? saintysaintsaint
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10:17am Sun 27 Jan 13

milton road says...

Costa Gaz says
PS... All of the negative stories in the echo are actual events and some fans can bury their heads in the sand and blame the echo, but if there is a story out there, expect the paper to report it, good or bad. the joke of the year lol

Um so in that case there is not one story on this site that has been speculation, I don't think so, The echo spreads lot of speculation across the board.
Costa Gaz says PS... All of the negative stories in the echo are actual events and some fans can bury their heads in the sand and blame the echo, but if there is a story out there, expect the paper to report it, good or bad. the joke of the year lol Um so in that case there is not one story on this site that has been speculation, I don't think so, The echo spreads lot of speculation across the board. milton road
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10:19am Sun 27 Jan 13

JohnItaly says...

costa gaz wrote:
With Cortese, we have here footballs version of Michael O'Leary.
Unbelievable similarities.
Whilst Michael O'Leary maybe very unpopular as is his airline one cannot deny it is a successful one. I would suggest not a single fan will complain if in 4 /5 years Cortese and the Saints are the most unpoular club pairing to lift the the Europan Champions League cup.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: With Cortese, we have here footballs version of Michael O'Leary. Unbelievable similarities.[/p][/quote]Whilst Michael O'Leary maybe very unpopular as is his airline one cannot deny it is a successful one. I would suggest not a single fan will complain if in 4 /5 years Cortese and the Saints are the most unpoular club pairing to lift the the Europan Champions League cup. JohnItaly
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10:20am Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

saintysaintsaint wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Just to Pre-empt the Echo:

Le Tiss is not happy because:

a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets

b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house)

c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet

d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful.

He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences.

Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good.
1) Le Tis is not happy 'cause NC &ML beat him to buying the club, that is all. 2) If NC did 'trash his house', would he not be done for breaking and entering and criminal damage? Think it through before you post cr@p. 3) you have no idea whether he has apologised to NA or not. He could have done it behind closed doors, all you've heard is rumour. Again, think it through before you post cr@p, slating the guy who saved SFC. Besides as much as we love NA, having been given the team and resources he had been given, would anyone else have done a worse job?
Sainty, Saint, Saint,

I was merely posting what Le Tiss put on twitter today pretty much verbatum.. Go see for yourself.

Have go at him. Though I think his PR strategy needs an overhaul, I support Cortese.
[quote][p][bold]saintysaintsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: Just to Pre-empt the Echo: Le Tiss is not happy because: a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house) c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful. He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences. Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good.[/p][/quote]1) Le Tis is not happy 'cause NC &ML beat him to buying the club, that is all. 2) If NC did 'trash his house', would he not be done for breaking and entering and criminal damage? Think it through before you post cr@p. 3) you have no idea whether he has apologised to NA or not. He could have done it behind closed doors, all you've heard is rumour. Again, think it through before you post cr@p, slating the guy who saved SFC. Besides as much as we love NA, having been given the team and resources he had been given, would anyone else have done a worse job?[/p][/quote]Sainty, Saint, Saint, I was merely posting what Le Tiss put on twitter today pretty much verbatum.. Go see for yourself. Have go at him. Though I think his PR strategy needs an overhaul, I support Cortese. Thornhill Saint
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10:28am Sun 27 Jan 13

Jesus_02 says...

OK im not a youngster i was born around the time of the Cup final. As, born and bread sotonian, i know who Jim Steal is but in all honesty I'm not sure that I would recognise him in the flesh.

If he didn't try to arrange anything then what can he expect.

From what I can read he made efforts not to alert the club to his presence the turned up at the official supporters club

What a position to put staff in?

would there even be an issue if it was Chris Marsden (Fa Cup Finalist) or Dean Hammond (Captain during back to back promotions) that turned up unannounced

Its not for the manager of a supporters bar to decide who is a "legend" ad who isnt quite "legend" enough so the rules are kept simple.
OK im not a youngster i was born around the time of the Cup final. As, born and bread sotonian, i know who Jim Steal is but in all honesty I'm not sure that I would recognise him in the flesh. If he didn't try to arrange anything then what can he expect. From what I can read he made efforts not to alert the club to his presence the turned up at the official supporters club What a position to put staff in? would there even be an issue if it was Chris Marsden (Fa Cup Finalist) or Dean Hammond (Captain during back to back promotions) that turned up unannounced Its not for the manager of a supporters bar to decide who is a "legend" ad who isnt quite "legend" enough so the rules are kept simple. Jesus_02
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10:29am Sun 27 Jan 13

Buddy SFC says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
saintysaintsaint wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote: Just to Pre-empt the Echo: Le Tiss is not happy because: a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house) c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful. He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences. Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good.
1) Le Tis is not happy 'cause NC &ML beat him to buying the club, that is all. 2) If NC did 'trash his house', would he not be done for breaking and entering and criminal damage? Think it through before you post cr@p. 3) you have no idea whether he has apologised to NA or not. He could have done it behind closed doors, all you've heard is rumour. Again, think it through before you post cr@p, slating the guy who saved SFC. Besides as much as we love NA, having been given the team and resources he had been given, would anyone else have done a worse job?
Sainty, Saint, Saint, I was merely posting what Le Tiss put on twitter today pretty much verbatum.. Go see for yourself. Have go at him. Though I think his PR strategy needs an overhaul, I support Cortese.
I think with NC there is no PR stratergy ........ Results and ambition are his PR !
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintysaintsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: Just to Pre-empt the Echo: Le Tiss is not happy because: a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house) c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful. He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences. Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good.[/p][/quote]1) Le Tis is not happy 'cause NC &ML beat him to buying the club, that is all. 2) If NC did 'trash his house', would he not be done for breaking and entering and criminal damage? Think it through before you post cr@p. 3) you have no idea whether he has apologised to NA or not. He could have done it behind closed doors, all you've heard is rumour. Again, think it through before you post cr@p, slating the guy who saved SFC. Besides as much as we love NA, having been given the team and resources he had been given, would anyone else have done a worse job?[/p][/quote]Sainty, Saint, Saint, I was merely posting what Le Tiss put on twitter today pretty much verbatum.. Go see for yourself. Have go at him. Though I think his PR strategy needs an overhaul, I support Cortese.[/p][/quote]I think with NC there is no PR stratergy ........ Results and ambition are his PR ! Buddy SFC
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10:37am Sun 27 Jan 13

Saint. says...

DE knew NC would have an interview on Sky, so the DE try to bring out something out to pull the carpet from under his feet!

DE now you wonder why NC ignores you so much. As a local wrang you are a joke! It not surprising you never get exclusives as you never try to build bridges, you rolling around like a hippo in muck feeling sorry for yourselves! DE ask yourselves why you did not get the interview in Spain, but Sky did!?
DE knew NC would have an interview on Sky, so the DE try to bring out something out to pull the carpet from under his feet! DE now you wonder why NC ignores you so much. As a local wrang you are a joke! It not surprising you never get exclusives as you never try to build bridges, you rolling around like a hippo in muck feeling sorry for yourselves! DE ask yourselves why you did not get the interview in Spain, but Sky did!? Saint.
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10:40am Sun 27 Jan 13

Buddy SFC says...

Saint. wrote:
DE knew NC would have an interview on Sky, so the DE try to bring out something out to pull the carpet from under his feet! DE now you wonder why NC ignores you so much. As a local wrang you are a joke! It not surprising you never get exclusives as you never try to build bridges, you rolling around like a hippo in muck feeling sorry for yourselves! DE ask yourselves why you did not get the interview in Spain, but Sky did!?
Sums up NC's ambition for SFC ........ Sky's global market or the DE's 3 men and a dog !
[quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: DE knew NC would have an interview on Sky, so the DE try to bring out something out to pull the carpet from under his feet! DE now you wonder why NC ignores you so much. As a local wrang you are a joke! It not surprising you never get exclusives as you never try to build bridges, you rolling around like a hippo in muck feeling sorry for yourselves! DE ask yourselves why you did not get the interview in Spain, but Sky did!?[/p][/quote]Sums up NC's ambition for SFC ........ Sky's global market or the DE's 3 men and a dog ! Buddy SFC
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10:40am Sun 27 Jan 13

andysaints007 says...

SaintinCanada wrote:
It is a non-story in the first place.
In that case you wouldn't have read it then !!
[quote][p][bold]SaintinCanada[/bold] wrote: It is a non-story in the first place.[/p][/quote]In that case you wouldn't have read it then !! andysaints007
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10:42am Sun 27 Jan 13

kinkyboots09 says...

I personally know Jim and i suspect Jim got a bit liberal with his language as he tends to do quite alot x
I personally know Jim and i suspect Jim got a bit liberal with his language as he tends to do quite alot x kinkyboots09
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10:44am Sun 27 Jan 13

Jesus_02 says...

Costa Baz:

While I agree that the negative articles are based on real events so are the best lies.

In the last couple of days there have been two particular articals that do not even qualify as a storm in a tea cup.

This one "nor member asked to leave members club"

and "Journalist asked to move away from the main thoroughfare" (an by the Guardian in the media/ freedom of the press section)

Both non stories, both overshadowed by actual interviews. The Echo is on its last legs and clutching at straws.
Costa Baz: While I agree that the negative articles are based on real events so are the best lies. In the last couple of days there have been two particular articals that do not even qualify as a storm in a tea cup. This one "nor member asked to leave members club" and "Journalist asked to move away from the main thoroughfare" (an by the Guardian in the media/ freedom of the press section) Both non stories, both overshadowed by actual interviews. The Echo is on its last legs and clutching at straws. Jesus_02
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10:47am Sun 27 Jan 13

InCortesewetrust says...

Cortese come across as very intelligent, he only has the best interests of the club, if we stick behind him and his ideas we can achieve What he has been working hard to do for the past 3 years, I also agree with. Him about le tizz, mat has jumped to a conclusion and made judgments on him without knowing him or the longterm plan, competing within the top 6, now I want some of that, http://www.skysports
.com/skysportsnews/s
tory/0,28679,19494_8
445857,00.html
Cortese come across as very intelligent, he only has the best interests of the club, if we stick behind him and his ideas we can achieve What he has been working hard to do for the past 3 years, I also agree with. Him about le tizz, mat has jumped to a conclusion and made judgments on him without knowing him or the longterm plan, competing within the top 6, now I want some of that, http://www.skysports .com/skysportsnews/s tory/0,28679,19494_8 445857,00.html InCortesewetrust
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10:48am Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
saintysaintsaint wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote: Just to Pre-empt the Echo: Le Tiss is not happy because: a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house) c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful. He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences. Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good.
1) Le Tis is not happy 'cause NC &ML beat him to buying the club, that is all. 2) If NC did 'trash his house', would he not be done for breaking and entering and criminal damage? Think it through before you post cr@p. 3) you have no idea whether he has apologised to NA or not. He could have done it behind closed doors, all you've heard is rumour. Again, think it through before you post cr@p, slating the guy who saved SFC. Besides as much as we love NA, having been given the team and resources he had been given, would anyone else have done a worse job?
Sainty, Saint, Saint, I was merely posting what Le Tiss put on twitter today pretty much verbatum.. Go see for yourself. Have go at him. Though I think his PR strategy needs an overhaul, I support Cortese.
I think with NC there is no PR stratergy ........ Results and ambition are his PR !
I hate to say it but his interview would support that observation!

Going back to Sainty, Saint, Saint for a minute.

When lowly posters like us post cr@p/half truths and unnecessary negative comments like fishmongers wives we are liable to be gutted like a mackeral by the SaintySaintSaints of this world and rightly so.

When Le Tissier twits away in a similar fashion does it make it OK because he is Le Tiss?

I am buying my £3.00 ticket to ask Le God a non controversial question if I get a chance because he remains a hero in spite of all this bitterness, certainly not because of it.
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintysaintsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: Just to Pre-empt the Echo: Le Tiss is not happy because: a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house) c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful. He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences. Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good.[/p][/quote]1) Le Tis is not happy 'cause NC &ML beat him to buying the club, that is all. 2) If NC did 'trash his house', would he not be done for breaking and entering and criminal damage? Think it through before you post cr@p. 3) you have no idea whether he has apologised to NA or not. He could have done it behind closed doors, all you've heard is rumour. Again, think it through before you post cr@p, slating the guy who saved SFC. Besides as much as we love NA, having been given the team and resources he had been given, would anyone else have done a worse job?[/p][/quote]Sainty, Saint, Saint, I was merely posting what Le Tiss put on twitter today pretty much verbatum.. Go see for yourself. Have go at him. Though I think his PR strategy needs an overhaul, I support Cortese.[/p][/quote]I think with NC there is no PR stratergy ........ Results and ambition are his PR ![/p][/quote]I hate to say it but his interview would support that observation! Going back to Sainty, Saint, Saint for a minute. When lowly posters like us post cr@p/half truths and unnecessary negative comments like fishmongers wives we are liable to be gutted like a mackeral by the SaintySaintSaints of this world and rightly so. When Le Tissier twits away in a similar fashion does it make it OK because he is Le Tiss? I am buying my £3.00 ticket to ask Le God a non controversial question if I get a chance because he remains a hero in spite of all this bitterness, certainly not because of it. Thornhill Saint
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10:49am Sun 27 Jan 13

St.Yorkie says...

There is a pending court case relating to alleged damage done to an ex-footballers house by a person high up at the club who allegedly rented it.
MLT is not bitter about losing out to the successful bid team. His loyalty to his friends is admirable.
I think the legends ban is not self imposed - it's for real!
There is a pending court case relating to alleged damage done to an ex-footballers house by a person high up at the club who allegedly rented it. MLT is not bitter about losing out to the successful bid team. His loyalty to his friends is admirable. I think the legends ban is not self imposed - it's for real! St.Yorkie
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10:52am Sun 27 Jan 13

three halves says...

Some people on here get very upset about anything negative said at all about Saints or Cortese.
Some people on here get very upset about anything negative said at all about Saints or Cortese. three halves
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10:55am Sun 27 Jan 13

milton road says...

Well sorry I liked the interview Cortese gave.
I have to say however much I like Le Tiss and respect his career. In the last few seasons his comments have been aimed at undermining Cortese and therefore the club.
I think basically our Matt needs to let it go along with one or two others.
Cortese mentioned how he and NA had a good relationship until the last seconds and it was difficult for him to let him go but he felt it was time for a change, He said if i have to be unpopular for saints to reach their full potential so be it.
I feel bad about NA going but I still trust NC to do the right thing for the club.
He was the one that instigated the buying of the club, He has chosen good managers to lead us to the promised land. I guess its a case of getting on the tour bus or jog on.
Well sorry I liked the interview Cortese gave. I have to say however much I like Le Tiss and respect his career. In the last few seasons his comments have been aimed at undermining Cortese and therefore the club. I think basically our Matt needs to let it go along with one or two others. Cortese mentioned how he and NA had a good relationship until the last seconds and it was difficult for him to let him go but he felt it was time for a change, He said if i have to be unpopular for saints to reach their full potential so be it. I feel bad about NA going but I still trust NC to do the right thing for the club. He was the one that instigated the buying of the club, He has chosen good managers to lead us to the promised land. I guess its a case of getting on the tour bus or jog on. milton road
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10:55am Sun 27 Jan 13

kinkyboots09 says...

As Cortese is CEO he has to make decisions good for the business if it meant sacking Nigel then so be it,no room for sentiment here and as for ex-players get over it,you got paid for doing a job most of us only dream about but as i am a woman it would never happen plus i'm useless xx
As Cortese is CEO he has to make decisions good for the business if it meant sacking Nigel then so be it,no room for sentiment here and as for ex-players get over it,you got paid for doing a job most of us only dream about but as i am a woman it would never happen plus i'm useless xx kinkyboots09
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11:00am Sun 27 Jan 13

PORTCHYSCUMMER says...

skatebait wrote:
He's an ex player, not a bloody war hero..... The club PAID you to play football for them... that is all.. I don't try and get a cup of tea from my old boss at the newsagents. ... although I was a good paperboy.
I have supported the club for close to 40 years now so can remember a lot of the chairman and directors of the past. Compared to Nicola Cortese these people are not fit to run a newsagents, let alone a football club. With the Dark Lord in the chair I remember seeing his face all over sky sports news, most weeks, there was even rumours circulating that he picked one of wobbly wiggley's teams!! Now we have a chairman that stays in the boardroom, backs his managers with a budget that amounts to a top 6 club, leaves him to be the customer facing spokesman and to pick his own teams! Stop the moaning and support the club and back the man that will not let the club fail!!!!
If the chairman doesn't see the club where it should be at that moment or the vision could be damaged he has every right to change his man.
Lawrie, Jim, Matt, you are legends of our past and will always be remembered. Now it's time for, Luke Shaw, Ward Prowse, Lallana legends of the future and Nicola Cortese will make it so!
[quote][p][bold]skatebait[/bold] wrote: He's an ex player, not a bloody war hero..... The club PAID you to play football for them... that is all.. I don't try and get a cup of tea from my old boss at the newsagents. ... although I was a good paperboy.[/p][/quote]I have supported the club for close to 40 years now so can remember a lot of the chairman and directors of the past. Compared to Nicola Cortese these people are not fit to run a newsagents, let alone a football club. With the Dark Lord in the chair I remember seeing his face all over sky sports news, most weeks, there was even rumours circulating that he picked one of wobbly wiggley's teams!! Now we have a chairman that stays in the boardroom, backs his managers with a budget that amounts to a top 6 club, leaves him to be the customer facing spokesman and to pick his own teams! Stop the moaning and support the club and back the man that will not let the club fail!!!! If the chairman doesn't see the club where it should be at that moment or the vision could be damaged he has every right to change his man. Lawrie, Jim, Matt, you are legends of our past and will always be remembered. Now it's time for, Luke Shaw, Ward Prowse, Lallana legends of the future and Nicola Cortese will make it so! PORTCHYSCUMMER
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11:02am Sun 27 Jan 13

PORTCHYSCUMMER says...

I have supported the club for close to 40 years now so can remember a lot of the chairman and directors of the past. Compared to Nicola Cortese these people are not fit to run a newsagents, let alone a football club. With the Dark Lord in the chair I remember seeing his face all over sky sports news, most weeks, there was even rumours circulating that he picked one of wobbly wiggley's teams!! Now we have a chairman that stays in the boardroom, backs his managers with a budget that amounts to a top 6 club, leaves him to be the customer facing spokesman and to pick his own teams! Stop the moaning and support the club and back the man that will not let the club fail!!!!
If the chairman doesn't see the club where it should be at that moment or the vision could be damaged he has every right to change his man.
Lawrie, Jim, Matt, you are legends of our past and will always be remembered. Now it's time for, Luke Shaw, Ward Prowse, Lallana legends of the future and Nicola Cortese will make it so!
I have supported the club for close to 40 years now so can remember a lot of the chairman and directors of the past. Compared to Nicola Cortese these people are not fit to run a newsagents, let alone a football club. With the Dark Lord in the chair I remember seeing his face all over sky sports news, most weeks, there was even rumours circulating that he picked one of wobbly wiggley's teams!! Now we have a chairman that stays in the boardroom, backs his managers with a budget that amounts to a top 6 club, leaves him to be the customer facing spokesman and to pick his own teams! Stop the moaning and support the club and back the man that will not let the club fail!!!! If the chairman doesn't see the club where it should be at that moment or the vision could be damaged he has every right to change his man. Lawrie, Jim, Matt, you are legends of our past and will always be remembered. Now it's time for, Luke Shaw, Ward Prowse, Lallana legends of the future and Nicola Cortese will make it so! PORTCHYSCUMMER
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11:03am Sun 27 Jan 13

milton road says...

This trashing allegation thing came out not long after the club was bought its very old stuff.
This trashing allegation thing came out not long after the club was bought its very old stuff. milton road
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11:05am Sun 27 Jan 13

Confucious says...

There's often Echo knocking on here and I haven't been one to join it - until now.

The Pink was largely negative this weekend too - still going on in spades about Nigel and complaining that supporters are now being treated as mere customers and that increasingly the club is being run, God forbid, "as a business."

Of course it's easy to whip up sentiment using this stuff and the article about Jim Steele. Nicola is hardly no 'charmer' and our relationship with the club is more emotional than financial. But we know only too well what happens to clubs nowadays which are not run well as businesses. And many fans who want to be seen as 'supporters' when things are going well, soon revert to being complaining 'customers' when they are going badly.

Success today only comes with financial clout and that only comes by running clubs in a sound way - or through a purchase by a billionaire sugar daddy who will use it, for a very uncertain period, as a personal toy.

I don't believe that Nicola's only motive is financial. I think he has a mission to create a successful long term future for the club - a mission which he planted in Markus Leibherr's mind and which he then shared with him. Markus did not buy a business. He didn't need to or want to. He bought a dream.

Only time will tell whether or not Nicola will succeed, but so far, three managers and three divisions later, I'm essentially a happy supporter AND a satisfied customer.

The club could and should, however, improve its' PR and communications on sensitive issues - at no extra cost at all.

The Echo might also consider how far it wants to take the obvious rift with the club and whether or not it is becoming seriously adrift from the views held by the majority of its' Saints supporting readers.

Meanwhile, even if the somewhat hysterical critics are right, I'd still rather have a club with no soul than a soul with no club (as we may soon see down the M27).
There's often Echo knocking on here and I haven't been one to join it - until now. The Pink was largely negative this weekend too - still going on in spades about Nigel and complaining that supporters are now being treated as mere customers and that increasingly the club is being run, God forbid, "as a business." Of course it's easy to whip up sentiment using this stuff and the article about Jim Steele. Nicola is hardly no 'charmer' and our relationship with the club is more emotional than financial. But we know only too well what happens to clubs nowadays which are not run well as businesses. And many fans who want to be seen as 'supporters' when things are going well, soon revert to being complaining 'customers' when they are going badly. Success today only comes with financial clout and that only comes by running clubs in a sound way - or through a purchase by a billionaire sugar daddy who will use it, for a very uncertain period, as a personal toy. I don't believe that Nicola's only motive is financial. I think he has a mission to create a successful long term future for the club - a mission which he planted in Markus Leibherr's mind and which he then shared with him. Markus did not buy a business. He didn't need to or want to. He bought a dream. Only time will tell whether or not Nicola will succeed, but so far, three managers and three divisions later, I'm essentially a happy supporter AND a satisfied customer. The club could and should, however, improve its' PR and communications on sensitive issues - at no extra cost at all. The Echo might also consider how far it wants to take the obvious rift with the club and whether or not it is becoming seriously adrift from the views held by the majority of its' Saints supporting readers. Meanwhile, even if the somewhat hysterical critics are right, I'd still rather have a club with no soul than a soul with no club (as we may soon see down the M27). Confucious
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11:09am Sun 27 Jan 13

Red n White says...

Am I right in thinking he was buying tickets to the home match against Villa? How long ago was that?!
I don't understand how there is a ban on legends, Le Tiss has a season ticket, as we know from him getting into trouble for letting someone else use it when he was already in the stadium. Dodd is the academy manager, and Terry Paine is an ambassador. Steele was also sold tickets to the match, so there's definitely no general ban on legends
Am I right in thinking he was buying tickets to the home match against Villa? How long ago was that?! I don't understand how there is a ban on legends, Le Tiss has a season ticket, as we know from him getting into trouble for letting someone else use it when he was already in the stadium. Dodd is the academy manager, and Terry Paine is an ambassador. Steele was also sold tickets to the match, so there's definitely no general ban on legends Red n White
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11:19am Sun 27 Jan 13

Buddy SFC says...

So back to the real question ??? Do we reckon there is to be any more signings before Thursday at 11pm ???
So back to the real question ??? Do we reckon there is to be any more signings before Thursday at 11pm ??? Buddy SFC
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11:20am Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

milton road wrote:
This trashing allegation thing came out not long after the club was bought its very old stuff.
If Benali is banned it is still relevant, more so after Cortese statement that anybody who has Saints in their heart is welcome. You may accuse Benali of many things, (Dodgy own goals, dodgy tash) but he definitely has saints in is heart.

I might be wrong but he attended the Man United FA cup game January 2011 and looked Ok, event hough this is after the original incident happended.

The daily mail article where this was reported Saints side of this as well:

"Southampton say they have received no legal correspondence from Benali and insist there is money owed back from Cortese's deposit. Saints believe the dispute has more to do with Benali no longer being a club ambassador."

This was one month later in Feb 2011.

If Benali was/is still banned it's wrong as this is a private civil issue. I think the club reserves right of non entry, but in light of Cortese's recent statement should Franny not be allowed to return and pay for his tickets and buy his own drinks like the rest of our legends?

I can't see there is any evidence that a case was ever filed. Maybe i have not looked hard enough, and maybe Benali never got round to it.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: This trashing allegation thing came out not long after the club was bought its very old stuff.[/p][/quote]If Benali is banned it is still relevant, more so after Cortese statement that anybody who has Saints in their heart is welcome. You may accuse Benali of many things, (Dodgy own goals, dodgy tash) but he definitely has saints in is heart. I might be wrong but he attended the Man United FA cup game January 2011 and looked Ok, event hough this is after the original incident happended. The daily mail article where this was reported Saints side of this as well: "Southampton say they have received no legal correspondence from Benali and insist there is money owed back from Cortese's deposit. Saints believe the dispute has more to do with Benali no longer being a club ambassador." This was one month later in Feb 2011. If Benali was/is still banned it's wrong as this is a private civil issue. I think the club reserves right of non entry, but in light of Cortese's recent statement should Franny not be allowed to return and pay for his tickets and buy his own drinks like the rest of our legends? I can't see there is any evidence that a case was ever filed. Maybe i have not looked hard enough, and maybe Benali never got round to it. Thornhill Saint
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11:20am Sun 27 Jan 13

Buddy SFC says...

PORTCHYSCUMMER wrote:
skatebait wrote: He's an ex player, not a bloody war hero..... The club PAID you to play football for them... that is all.. I don't try and get a cup of tea from my old boss at the newsagents. ... although I was a good paperboy.
I have supported the club for close to 40 years now so can remember a lot of the chairman and directors of the past. Compared to Nicola Cortese these people are not fit to run a newsagents, let alone a football club. With the Dark Lord in the chair I remember seeing his face all over sky sports news, most weeks, there was even rumours circulating that he picked one of wobbly wiggley's teams!! Now we have a chairman that stays in the boardroom, backs his managers with a budget that amounts to a top 6 club, leaves him to be the customer facing spokesman and to pick his own teams! Stop the moaning and support the club and back the man that will not let the club fail!!!! If the chairman doesn't see the club where it should be at that moment or the vision could be damaged he has every right to change his man. Lawrie, Jim, Matt, you are legends of our past and will always be remembered. Now it's time for, Luke Shaw, Ward Prowse, Lallana legends of the future and Nicola Cortese will make it so!
Spot on !
[quote][p][bold]PORTCHYSCUMMER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skatebait[/bold] wrote: He's an ex player, not a bloody war hero..... The club PAID you to play football for them... that is all.. I don't try and get a cup of tea from my old boss at the newsagents. ... although I was a good paperboy.[/p][/quote]I have supported the club for close to 40 years now so can remember a lot of the chairman and directors of the past. Compared to Nicola Cortese these people are not fit to run a newsagents, let alone a football club. With the Dark Lord in the chair I remember seeing his face all over sky sports news, most weeks, there was even rumours circulating that he picked one of wobbly wiggley's teams!! Now we have a chairman that stays in the boardroom, backs his managers with a budget that amounts to a top 6 club, leaves him to be the customer facing spokesman and to pick his own teams! Stop the moaning and support the club and back the man that will not let the club fail!!!! If the chairman doesn't see the club where it should be at that moment or the vision could be damaged he has every right to change his man. Lawrie, Jim, Matt, you are legends of our past and will always be remembered. Now it's time for, Luke Shaw, Ward Prowse, Lallana legends of the future and Nicola Cortese will make it so![/p][/quote]Spot on ! Buddy SFC
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11:22am Sun 27 Jan 13

DonRicardoMeerkat says...

Confucious wrote:
There's often Echo knocking on here and I haven't been one to join it - until now. The Pink was largely negative this weekend too - still going on in spades about Nigel and complaining that supporters are now being treated as mere customers and that increasingly the club is being run, God forbid, "as a business." Of course it's easy to whip up sentiment using this stuff and the article about Jim Steele. Nicola is hardly no 'charmer' and our relationship with the club is more emotional than financial. But we know only too well what happens to clubs nowadays which are not run well as businesses. And many fans who want to be seen as 'supporters' when things are going well, soon revert to being complaining 'customers' when they are going badly. Success today only comes with financial clout and that only comes by running clubs in a sound way - or through a purchase by a billionaire sugar daddy who will use it, for a very uncertain period, as a personal toy. I don't believe that Nicola's only motive is financial. I think he has a mission to create a successful long term future for the club - a mission which he planted in Markus Leibherr's mind and which he then shared with him. Markus did not buy a business. He didn't need to or want to. He bought a dream. Only time will tell whether or not Nicola will succeed, but so far, three managers and three divisions later, I'm essentially a happy supporter AND a satisfied customer. The club could and should, however, improve its' PR and communications on sensitive issues - at no extra cost at all. The Echo might also consider how far it wants to take the obvious rift with the club and whether or not it is becoming seriously adrift from the views held by the majority of its' Saints supporting readers. Meanwhile, even if the somewhat hysterical critics are right, I'd still rather have a club with no soul than a soul with no club (as we may soon see down the M27).
excellent post, though i am worried that someone has kidnapped our confucious!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: There's often Echo knocking on here and I haven't been one to join it - until now. The Pink was largely negative this weekend too - still going on in spades about Nigel and complaining that supporters are now being treated as mere customers and that increasingly the club is being run, God forbid, "as a business." Of course it's easy to whip up sentiment using this stuff and the article about Jim Steele. Nicola is hardly no 'charmer' and our relationship with the club is more emotional than financial. But we know only too well what happens to clubs nowadays which are not run well as businesses. And many fans who want to be seen as 'supporters' when things are going well, soon revert to being complaining 'customers' when they are going badly. Success today only comes with financial clout and that only comes by running clubs in a sound way - or through a purchase by a billionaire sugar daddy who will use it, for a very uncertain period, as a personal toy. I don't believe that Nicola's only motive is financial. I think he has a mission to create a successful long term future for the club - a mission which he planted in Markus Leibherr's mind and which he then shared with him. Markus did not buy a business. He didn't need to or want to. He bought a dream. Only time will tell whether or not Nicola will succeed, but so far, three managers and three divisions later, I'm essentially a happy supporter AND a satisfied customer. The club could and should, however, improve its' PR and communications on sensitive issues - at no extra cost at all. The Echo might also consider how far it wants to take the obvious rift with the club and whether or not it is becoming seriously adrift from the views held by the majority of its' Saints supporting readers. Meanwhile, even if the somewhat hysterical critics are right, I'd still rather have a club with no soul than a soul with no club (as we may soon see down the M27).[/p][/quote]excellent post, though i am worried that someone has kidnapped our confucious!!!!! DonRicardoMeerkat
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11:25am Sun 27 Jan 13

milton road says...

Lol I think this thing about two tickets goes back to the early days not recently.
The Echo had a personal vendetta against Cortese, they tried to destabilize him after Pardew was sacked. All this ticket stuff and trashing allegation was before all that.
The echo if you see rarely if ever write a comment that is positive about Cortese, yet they use every little thing to take a dig at him.
Certain old players and managers seem to gob off at will about him and have done from the beginning.
people i have respected and enjoyed watching.
I do not see him slagging them off anywhere.
Lol I think this thing about two tickets goes back to the early days not recently. The Echo had a personal vendetta against Cortese, they tried to destabilize him after Pardew was sacked. All this ticket stuff and trashing allegation was before all that. The echo if you see rarely if ever write a comment that is positive about Cortese, yet they use every little thing to take a dig at him. Certain old players and managers seem to gob off at will about him and have done from the beginning. people i have respected and enjoyed watching. I do not see him slagging them off anywhere. milton road
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11:29am Sun 27 Jan 13

milton road says...

Lol I think this thing about two tickets goes back to the early days not recently.
The Echo had a personal vendetta against Cortese, they tried to destabilize him after Pardew was sacked. All this ticket stuff and trashing allegation was before all that.
The echo if you see rarely if ever write a comment that is positive about Cortese, yet they use every little thing to take a dig at him.
Certain old players and managers seem to gob off at will about him and have done from the beginning.
people i have respected and enjoyed watching.
I do not see him slagging them off anywhere.
Lol I think this thing about two tickets goes back to the early days not recently. The Echo had a personal vendetta against Cortese, they tried to destabilize him after Pardew was sacked. All this ticket stuff and trashing allegation was before all that. The echo if you see rarely if ever write a comment that is positive about Cortese, yet they use every little thing to take a dig at him. Certain old players and managers seem to gob off at will about him and have done from the beginning. people i have respected and enjoyed watching. I do not see him slagging them off anywhere. milton road
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11:33am Sun 27 Jan 13

Saint. says...

InCortesewetrust wrote:
Cortese come across as very intelligent, he only has the best interests of the club, if we stick behind him and his ideas we can achieve What he has been working hard to do for the past 3 years, I also agree with. Him about le tizz, mat has jumped to a conclusion and made judgments on him without knowing him or the longterm plan, competing within the top 6, now I want some of that, http://www.skysports

.com/skysportsnews/s

tory/0,28679,19494_8

445857,00.html
Totally agree! NC ROCKS! Our club in very good hands, and he keeps things very simple!! He talks about Southampton FC not individuals! NC will take Southampton FC to the top!

For those who missed, he dose say his relaintionship with NA was the best up until the last seconds, and that matches NA comments constantly while in charge. I believe NC has been straight with NA all the way, and NA was always aware of the bigger picture, the club! So WAKE UP DE! I am sure when NA decides to talk, he will thank and compliment NC.

With MP interview with the Sun paper (not the DE) which you can see on the BBC website, is also excellent! It seems the CLUB are on a responsese PR route with the fans and a message to the footballing world while in Spain! Well done NC!

The future bright, and the future very bright under NC leadership! We are very lucky indeed!!
[quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Cortese come across as very intelligent, he only has the best interests of the club, if we stick behind him and his ideas we can achieve What he has been working hard to do for the past 3 years, I also agree with. Him about le tizz, mat has jumped to a conclusion and made judgments on him without knowing him or the longterm plan, competing within the top 6, now I want some of that, http://www.skysports .com/skysportsnews/s tory/0,28679,19494_8 445857,00.html[/p][/quote]Totally agree! NC ROCKS! Our club in very good hands, and he keeps things very simple!! He talks about Southampton FC not individuals! NC will take Southampton FC to the top! For those who missed, he dose say his relaintionship with NA was the best up until the last seconds, and that matches NA comments constantly while in charge. I believe NC has been straight with NA all the way, and NA was always aware of the bigger picture, the club! So WAKE UP DE! I am sure when NA decides to talk, he will thank and compliment NC. With MP interview with the Sun paper (not the DE) which you can see on the BBC website, is also excellent! It seems the CLUB are on a responsese PR route with the fans and a message to the footballing world while in Spain! Well done NC! The future bright, and the future very bright under NC leadership! We are very lucky indeed!! Saint.
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11:45am Sun 27 Jan 13

St.Yorkie says...

milton road wrote:
This trashing allegation thing came out not long after the club was bought its very old stuff.
It may have been a long time ago - but it's still not resolved. Even when it is and all parties are happy with the settlement, it really has got too deep for some people to let go.
It seems obvious to put 2 and 2 together and make the take over the centre of the issue. However blood is thicker than water, and loyalty to friends sometimes knows no boundaries.
I think I understand why the feud is on going. When a person is wronged - there are always 2-sides. It just so happens there are a number of club legends on one side all singing from the same hymn sheet. It's got personal and unfortunately the club is stuck in the middle.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: This trashing allegation thing came out not long after the club was bought its very old stuff.[/p][/quote]It may have been a long time ago - but it's still not resolved. Even when it is and all parties are happy with the settlement, it really has got too deep for some people to let go. It seems obvious to put 2 and 2 together and make the take over the centre of the issue. However blood is thicker than water, and loyalty to friends sometimes knows no boundaries. I think I understand why the feud is on going. When a person is wronged - there are always 2-sides. It just so happens there are a number of club legends on one side all singing from the same hymn sheet. It's got personal and unfortunately the club is stuck in the middle. St.Yorkie
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11:47am Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Found the Benali case (I did not look hard enough!). It was scheduled for a hearing at half past twelve at the Technology and Construction Court Friday 12th October 2012.

Anybody know if Saints showed up?
Found the Benali case (I did not look hard enough!). It was scheduled for a hearing at half past twelve at the Technology and Construction Court Friday 12th October 2012. Anybody know if Saints showed up? Thornhill Saint
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12:09pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

as Benali has sued the club itself and not Cortese it's not so sup rising he is banned.
as Benali has sued the club itself and not Cortese it's not so sup rising he is banned. Thornhill Saint
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12:16pm Sun 27 Jan 13

batesieboy says...

costa gaz wrote:
I can understand the points given about the dell cafe being a private members club, but the general treatment given to past players/managers is a little out of order.
You couldn't imagine the likes of Everton, L'pool, Manu, Arsenal etc...etc.... behaving this way to yesterdays hero's.
We seem to be heading down the Chelsea road where fans have become completely alienated from the club.

I know Dear Leader is hell bent on success, but surely most of the PR disasters of late could have been avoided.
I love that "Our Dear Leader" now I now how yer average North Korean feels!!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: I can understand the points given about the dell cafe being a private members club, but the general treatment given to past players/managers is a little out of order. You couldn't imagine the likes of Everton, L'pool, Manu, Arsenal etc...etc.... behaving this way to yesterdays hero's. We seem to be heading down the Chelsea road where fans have become completely alienated from the club. I know Dear Leader is hell bent on success, but surely most of the PR disasters of late could have been avoided.[/p][/quote]I love that "Our Dear Leader" now I now how yer average North Korean feels!! batesieboy
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12:17pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Found the Benali case (I did not look hard enough!). It was scheduled for a hearing at half past twelve at the Technology and Construction Court Friday 12th October 2012.

Anybody know if Saints showed up?
Strange how it never got any publicity?
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: Found the Benali case (I did not look hard enough!). It was scheduled for a hearing at half past twelve at the Technology and Construction Court Friday 12th October 2012. Anybody know if Saints showed up?[/p][/quote]Strange how it never got any publicity? OSPREYSAINT
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12:18pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

batesieboy wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
I can understand the points given about the dell cafe being a private members club, but the general treatment given to past players/managers is a little out of order.
You couldn't imagine the likes of Everton, L'pool, Manu, Arsenal etc...etc.... behaving this way to yesterdays hero's.
We seem to be heading down the Chelsea road where fans have become completely alienated from the club.

I know Dear Leader is hell bent on success, but surely most of the PR disasters of late could have been avoided.
I love that "Our Dear Leader" now I now how yer average North Korean feels!!
Enlighten me, how does the average North Korean feel?
[quote][p][bold]batesieboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: I can understand the points given about the dell cafe being a private members club, but the general treatment given to past players/managers is a little out of order. You couldn't imagine the likes of Everton, L'pool, Manu, Arsenal etc...etc.... behaving this way to yesterdays hero's. We seem to be heading down the Chelsea road where fans have become completely alienated from the club. I know Dear Leader is hell bent on success, but surely most of the PR disasters of late could have been avoided.[/p][/quote]I love that "Our Dear Leader" now I now how yer average North Korean feels!![/p][/quote]Enlighten me, how does the average North Korean feel? OSPREYSAINT
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12:22pm Sun 27 Jan 13

MGRA says...

FA cup winning player was too scared to give his real name at SMS in case it caused trouble... in what way can anyone take any sort of positive from this ?
FA cup winning player was too scared to give his real name at SMS in case it caused trouble... in what way can anyone take any sort of positive from this ? MGRA
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12:24pm Sun 27 Jan 13

saintshorse101 says...

seed you use the clubs suites so may be able to correct me if i am wrong here, which according to the other half i am most of the time, but isnt there a players suite at sms which ex-players can use (pay for their ticket of course). i got this info from an ex-player who said that none of the ex-players use the suite, probabley due to costs.
as for jim steele not wanting to be recognised because he `might not be let in`. he was recognised and was let in, it was only when he used a members bar that he was asked to leave. he still went to the game though so was not as the headline states `shown the door at sms`. i dont knock the echo, its my choice to read it, but they should at least get the headlines right. i doubt NC even knew of this untill now.and i thought he did a great interview today.
anyone still moaning that he sacked an english manager and brought in a foreign one, did you moan when a foreign owner brought the club and used his foreign money to buy the players we all worship today?
seed you use the clubs suites so may be able to correct me if i am wrong here, which according to the other half i am most of the time, but isnt there a players suite at sms which ex-players can use (pay for their ticket of course). i got this info from an ex-player who said that none of the ex-players use the suite, probabley due to costs. as for jim steele not wanting to be recognised because he `might not be let in`. he was recognised and was let in, it was only when he used a members bar that he was asked to leave. he still went to the game though so was not as the headline states `shown the door at sms`. i dont knock the echo, its my choice to read it, but they should at least get the headlines right. i doubt NC even knew of this untill now.and i thought he did a great interview today. anyone still moaning that he sacked an english manager and brought in a foreign one, did you moan when a foreign owner brought the club and used his foreign money to buy the players we all worship today? saintshorse101
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12:38pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Buddy SFC says...

saintshorse101 wrote:
seed you use the clubs suites so may be able to correct me if i am wrong here, which according to the other half i am most of the time, but isnt there a players suite at sms which ex-players can use (pay for their ticket of course). i got this info from an ex-player who said that none of the ex-players use the suite, probabley due to costs. as for jim steele not wanting to be recognised because he `might not be let in`. he was recognised and was let in, it was only when he used a members bar that he was asked to leave. he still went to the game though so was not as the headline states `shown the door at sms`. i dont knock the echo, its my choice to read it, but they should at least get the headlines right. i doubt NC even knew of this untill now.and i thought he did a great interview today. anyone still moaning that he sacked an english manager and brought in a foreign one, did you moan when a foreign owner brought the club and used his foreign money to buy the players we all worship today?
Hear Hear .........

One of the best interviews I've seen , Onwards and Upwards !!

COYR's
[quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: seed you use the clubs suites so may be able to correct me if i am wrong here, which according to the other half i am most of the time, but isnt there a players suite at sms which ex-players can use (pay for their ticket of course). i got this info from an ex-player who said that none of the ex-players use the suite, probabley due to costs. as for jim steele not wanting to be recognised because he `might not be let in`. he was recognised and was let in, it was only when he used a members bar that he was asked to leave. he still went to the game though so was not as the headline states `shown the door at sms`. i dont knock the echo, its my choice to read it, but they should at least get the headlines right. i doubt NC even knew of this untill now.and i thought he did a great interview today. anyone still moaning that he sacked an english manager and brought in a foreign one, did you moan when a foreign owner brought the club and used his foreign money to buy the players we all worship today?[/p][/quote]Hear Hear ......... One of the best interviews I've seen , Onwards and Upwards !! COYR's Buddy SFC
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12:52pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

MGRA wrote:
FA cup winning player was too scared to give his real name at SMS in case it caused trouble... in what way can anyone take any sort of positive from this ?
Or does anyone believe it, what was he afraid of? Have you ever met him? I think ;afraid; would be a misnomer in his case. He was great for us, but history will not help the future in this case.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: FA cup winning player was too scared to give his real name at SMS in case it caused trouble... in what way can anyone take any sort of positive from this ?[/p][/quote]Or does anyone believe it, what was he afraid of? Have you ever met him? I think ;afraid; would be a misnomer in his case. He was great for us, but history will not help the future in this case. OSPREYSAINT
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1:37pm Sun 27 Jan 13

rednwhite72 says...

The fact is he brought a ticket and was able to watch the game, I am not sure what the benefits are of being a ex-sfc-legend when it comes to the football club but I don't believe that they are not able to actually buy a ticket and watch the game like the rest of us, its seems the fact was he entered the members only suite and he wasn't a member? I do have some sympathy for the legends of our great club but the owners and their team have alot of money and time invested in the club and are ultimately responsible for its future, like someone said above NC probably knew nothing of this, and I am quite sure that he doesn't read the echo. The recent interview shows that although NC maybe the hard-nosed tryant he is made out to be, he will address issues that are put to him, when the time comes and through the channels that he chooses. The perfect scenario would be if this group of SFC legends meet with the chairman and voiced their views, I'm sure then the air can be cleared, in the end the chairman and legends have the same goal, the ultimate success of the club. I do believe that this in the future will be resolved and the boys can come to some agreement with NC for the sake of the club and the supporters, obviously we do recognise and apprecaite all the great players that have written the history of SFC, but we also want to support the new regime in its vision to take the club forward...!
The fact is he brought a ticket and was able to watch the game, I am not sure what the benefits are of being a ex-sfc-legend when it comes to the football club but I don't believe that they are not able to actually buy a ticket and watch the game like the rest of us, its seems the fact was he entered the members only suite and he wasn't a member? I do have some sympathy for the legends of our great club but the owners and their team have alot of money and time invested in the club and are ultimately responsible for its future, like someone said above NC probably knew nothing of this, and I am quite sure that he doesn't read the echo. The recent interview shows that although NC maybe the hard-nosed tryant he is made out to be, he will address issues that are put to him, when the time comes and through the channels that he chooses. The perfect scenario would be if this group of SFC legends meet with the chairman and voiced their views, I'm sure then the air can be cleared, in the end the chairman and legends have the same goal, the ultimate success of the club. I do believe that this in the future will be resolved and the boys can come to some agreement with NC for the sake of the club and the supporters, obviously we do recognise and apprecaite all the great players that have written the history of SFC, but we also want to support the new regime in its vision to take the club forward...! rednwhite72
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1:45pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Block41row0sfc says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Just to Pre-empt the Echo:

Le Tiss is not happy because:

a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets

b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house)

c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet

d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful.

He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences.

Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good.
What have you done copied and pasted everything le tiss has said about it on twitter today. Not surprised someone like you can't come up with his own points though. CHAV
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: Just to Pre-empt the Echo: Le Tiss is not happy because: a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house) c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful. He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences. Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good.[/p][/quote]What have you done copied and pasted everything le tiss has said about it on twitter today. Not surprised someone like you can't come up with his own points though. CHAV Block41row0sfc
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1:57pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

saintshorse101 wrote:
seed you use the clubs suites so may be able to correct me if i am wrong here, which according to the other half i am most of the time, but isnt there a players suite at sms which ex-players can use (pay for their ticket of course). i got this info from an ex-player who said that none of the ex-players use the suite, probabley due to costs.
as for jim steele not wanting to be recognised because he `might not be let in`. he was recognised and was let in, it was only when he used a members bar that he was asked to leave. he still went to the game though so was not as the headline states `shown the door at sms`. i dont knock the echo, its my choice to read it, but they should at least get the headlines right. i doubt NC even knew of this untill now.and i thought he did a great interview today.
anyone still moaning that he sacked an english manager and brought in a foreign one, did you moan when a foreign owner brought the club and used his foreign money to buy the players we all worship today?
To my knowledge there isn't a suite for ex players per se. However, there is a box that was previously taken by Leon Crouch, Lawrie Mac etc which I think they now call Ex Saints. If so it would be privately funded and down to the funders to invite who they want.

I don't think ex Saints are banned. However, Franny is. The club rented his house in Chilworth for Cortese when he first arrived. Apparently he ripped up carpets and curtains and replaced with wooden flooring and blinds. Franny wanted it reinstated and it wasn't so he sued. He had to sue the club because the legal contract was between him and the club.
[quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: seed you use the clubs suites so may be able to correct me if i am wrong here, which according to the other half i am most of the time, but isnt there a players suite at sms which ex-players can use (pay for their ticket of course). i got this info from an ex-player who said that none of the ex-players use the suite, probabley due to costs. as for jim steele not wanting to be recognised because he `might not be let in`. he was recognised and was let in, it was only when he used a members bar that he was asked to leave. he still went to the game though so was not as the headline states `shown the door at sms`. i dont knock the echo, its my choice to read it, but they should at least get the headlines right. i doubt NC even knew of this untill now.and i thought he did a great interview today. anyone still moaning that he sacked an english manager and brought in a foreign one, did you moan when a foreign owner brought the club and used his foreign money to buy the players we all worship today?[/p][/quote]To my knowledge there isn't a suite for ex players per se. However, there is a box that was previously taken by Leon Crouch, Lawrie Mac etc which I think they now call Ex Saints. If so it would be privately funded and down to the funders to invite who they want. I don't think ex Saints are banned. However, Franny is. The club rented his house in Chilworth for Cortese when he first arrived. Apparently he ripped up carpets and curtains and replaced with wooden flooring and blinds. Franny wanted it reinstated and it wasn't so he sued. He had to sue the club because the legal contract was between him and the club. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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2:15pm Sun 27 Jan 13

dadofmy3sons says...

Jim Steel was not thrownout of the ground by NC, he was asked to leave the members bar because of a standing rule that you have to be a member.
Ask people who used to drink at The Chamberlain pub in Sholing for their opinion of JS the pub landord!
He had rules too!
Jim Steel was not thrownout of the ground by NC, he was asked to leave the members bar because of a standing rule that you have to be a member. Ask people who used to drink at The Chamberlain pub in Sholing for their opinion of JS the pub landord! He had rules too! dadofmy3sons
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2:21pm Sun 27 Jan 13

sking19326 says...

kinkyboots09 wrote:
As Cortese is CEO he has to make decisions good for the business if it meant sacking Nigel then so be it,no room for sentiment here and as for ex-players get over it,you got paid for doing a job most of us only dream about but as i am a woman it would never happen plus i'm useless xx
Kinkyboots09 you maybe a woman, But I bet you aren't as useless as Ali Dia, and he played for Saints.

COYR
[quote][p][bold]kinkyboots09[/bold] wrote: As Cortese is CEO he has to make decisions good for the business if it meant sacking Nigel then so be it,no room for sentiment here and as for ex-players get over it,you got paid for doing a job most of us only dream about but as i am a woman it would never happen plus i'm useless xx[/p][/quote]Kinkyboots09 you maybe a woman, But I bet you aren't as useless as Ali Dia, and he played for Saints. COYR sking19326
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2:27pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Block41row0sfc wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Just to Pre-empt the Echo:

Le Tiss is not happy because:

a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets

b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house)

c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet

d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful.

He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences.

Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good.
What have you done copied and pasted everything le tiss has said about it on twitter today. Not surprised someone like you can't come up with his own points though. CHAV
For my own point of view read my other posts idiot. I never claimed these as my own idiot.
[quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: Just to Pre-empt the Echo: Le Tiss is not happy because: a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house) c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful. He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences. Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good.[/p][/quote]What have you done copied and pasted everything le tiss has said about it on twitter today. Not surprised someone like you can't come up with his own points though. CHAV[/p][/quote]For my own point of view read my other posts idiot. I never claimed these as my own idiot. Thornhill Saint
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2:34pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Block41row0sfc wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Just to Pre-empt the Echo:

Le Tiss is not happy because:

a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets

b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house)

c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet

d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful.

He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences.

Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good.
What have you done copied and pasted everything le tiss has said about it on twitter today. Not surprised someone like you can't come up with his own points though. CHAV
For my own point of view read my other posts idiot. I never claimed these as my own idiot.
Second idiot was for emphasis.

Anyway, you are not exactly full of views yourself, for someone who likes to look down on others.

Do you have any views worth positing that are not random insults
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: Just to Pre-empt the Echo: Le Tiss is not happy because: a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house) c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful. He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences. Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good.[/p][/quote]What have you done copied and pasted everything le tiss has said about it on twitter today. Not surprised someone like you can't come up with his own points though. CHAV[/p][/quote]For my own point of view read my other posts idiot. I never claimed these as my own idiot.[/p][/quote]Second idiot was for emphasis. Anyway, you are not exactly full of views yourself, for someone who likes to look down on others. Do you have any views worth positing that are not random insults Thornhill Saint
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3:50pm Sun 27 Jan 13

MGRA says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
FA cup winning player was too scared to give his real name at SMS in case it caused trouble... in what way can anyone take any sort of positive from this ?
Or does anyone believe it, what was he afraid of? Have you ever met him? I think ;afraid; would be a misnomer in his case. He was great for us, but history will not help the future in this case.
sorry , yes I forgot that all past players are liars and everything bad that happens to them at SMS is there own fault or simply did not happen, are you sure you are not East German ?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: FA cup winning player was too scared to give his real name at SMS in case it caused trouble... in what way can anyone take any sort of positive from this ?[/p][/quote]Or does anyone believe it, what was he afraid of? Have you ever met him? I think ;afraid; would be a misnomer in his case. He was great for us, but history will not help the future in this case.[/p][/quote]sorry , yes I forgot that all past players are liars and everything bad that happens to them at SMS is there own fault or simply did not happen, are you sure you are not East German ? MGRA
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4:20pm Sun 27 Jan 13

lowe hater, cornwall says...

verwoodsaint wrote:
Another Ex Saint trying to do damage to our club ! Move on boys , please ...
You obviously don't care about our history !! Our only cup win and man of the match as far as I'm concerned he should have the freedom of st Mary's !! Short sighted tosser !!!
[quote][p][bold]verwoodsaint[/bold] wrote: Another Ex Saint trying to do damage to our club ! Move on boys , please ...[/p][/quote]You obviously don't care about our history !! Our only cup win and man of the match as far as I'm concerned he should have the freedom of st Mary's !! Short sighted tosser !!! lowe hater, cornwall
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5:05pm Sun 27 Jan 13

ShakeyWiffles says...

I don't get it. He's not a member so he got asked to leave. How is this news?
I don't get it. He's not a member so he got asked to leave. How is this news? ShakeyWiffles
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5:28pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
FA cup winning player was too scared to give his real name at SMS in case it caused trouble... in what way can anyone take any sort of positive from this ?
Or does anyone believe it, what was he afraid of? Have you ever met him? I think ;afraid; would be a misnomer in his case. He was great for us, but history will not help the future in this case.
sorry , yes I forgot that all past players are liars and everything bad that happens to them at SMS is there own fault or simply did not happen, are you sure you are not East German ?
Why the insult again? I have been accused by you of being North Korean, East German what next Outer Mongolian? You believe that all ex players are liars, and that they are at fault for a couple of minor contretemps at St. Marys, of course you don't, for pities sake grow up and post something intelligent for once.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: FA cup winning player was too scared to give his real name at SMS in case it caused trouble... in what way can anyone take any sort of positive from this ?[/p][/quote]Or does anyone believe it, what was he afraid of? Have you ever met him? I think ;afraid; would be a misnomer in his case. He was great for us, but history will not help the future in this case.[/p][/quote]sorry , yes I forgot that all past players are liars and everything bad that happens to them at SMS is there own fault or simply did not happen, are you sure you are not East German ?[/p][/quote]Why the insult again? I have been accused by you of being North Korean, East German what next Outer Mongolian? You believe that all ex players are liars, and that they are at fault for a couple of minor contretemps at St. Marys, of course you don't, for pities sake grow up and post something intelligent for once. OSPREYSAINT
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5:29pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saints beat Celtic 3 2 today, St. Mirren that is.
Saints beat Celtic 3 2 today, St. Mirren that is. OSPREYSAINT
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5:38pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Block41row0sfc wrote:
Negative!
A man of one word.
[quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: Negative![/p][/quote]A man of one word. Thornhill Saint
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5:41pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Block41row0sfc wrote:
skatebait wrote:
He's an ex player, not a bloody war hero..... The club PAID you to play football for them... that is all.. I don't try and get a cup of tea from my old boss at the newsagents. ... although I was a good paperboy.
Brilliant post.
A man of two words and that is pretty much it.

Do you have anything genuinly interesting to post apart from monosyllabic replies to others ideas and insults?
[quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skatebait[/bold] wrote: He's an ex player, not a bloody war hero..... The club PAID you to play football for them... that is all.. I don't try and get a cup of tea from my old boss at the newsagents. ... although I was a good paperboy.[/p][/quote]Brilliant post.[/p][/quote]A man of two words and that is pretty much it. Do you have anything genuinly interesting to post apart from monosyllabic replies to others ideas and insults? Thornhill Saint
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6:04pm Sun 27 Jan 13

NetleyNed says...

skatebait wrote:
He's an ex player, not a bloody war hero..... The club PAID you to play football for them... that is all.. I don't try and get a cup of tea from my old boss at the newsagents. ... although I was a good paperboy.
I agree; another Saint looking for a freebie. This isn't a charity, it's a football club.
[quote][p][bold]skatebait[/bold] wrote: He's an ex player, not a bloody war hero..... The club PAID you to play football for them... that is all.. I don't try and get a cup of tea from my old boss at the newsagents. ... although I was a good paperboy.[/p][/quote]I agree; another Saint looking for a freebie. This isn't a charity, it's a football club. NetleyNed
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6:15pm Sun 27 Jan 13

NetleyNed says...

rednwhite72 wrote:
The fact is he brought a ticket and was able to watch the game, I am not sure what the benefits are of being a ex-sfc-legend when it comes to the football club but I don't believe that they are not able to actually buy a ticket and watch the game like the rest of us, its seems the fact was he entered the members only suite and he wasn't a member? I do have some sympathy for the legends of our great club but the owners and their team have alot of money and time invested in the club and are ultimately responsible for its future, like someone said above NC probably knew nothing of this, and I am quite sure that he doesn't read the echo. The recent interview shows that although NC maybe the hard-nosed tryant he is made out to be, he will address issues that are put to him, when the time comes and through the channels that he chooses. The perfect scenario would be if this group of SFC legends meet with the chairman and voiced their views, I'm sure then the air can be cleared, in the end the chairman and legends have the same goal, the ultimate success of the club. I do believe that this in the future will be resolved and the boys can come to some agreement with NC for the sake of the club and the supporters, obviously we do recognise and apprecaite all the great players that have written the history of SFC, but we also want to support the new regime in its vision to take the club forward...!
Spot on! History was yesterday. Let's live in the present. Come on you Ssaints!
[quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: The fact is he brought a ticket and was able to watch the game, I am not sure what the benefits are of being a ex-sfc-legend when it comes to the football club but I don't believe that they are not able to actually buy a ticket and watch the game like the rest of us, its seems the fact was he entered the members only suite and he wasn't a member? I do have some sympathy for the legends of our great club but the owners and their team have alot of money and time invested in the club and are ultimately responsible for its future, like someone said above NC probably knew nothing of this, and I am quite sure that he doesn't read the echo. The recent interview shows that although NC maybe the hard-nosed tryant he is made out to be, he will address issues that are put to him, when the time comes and through the channels that he chooses. The perfect scenario would be if this group of SFC legends meet with the chairman and voiced their views, I'm sure then the air can be cleared, in the end the chairman and legends have the same goal, the ultimate success of the club. I do believe that this in the future will be resolved and the boys can come to some agreement with NC for the sake of the club and the supporters, obviously we do recognise and apprecaite all the great players that have written the history of SFC, but we also want to support the new regime in its vision to take the club forward...![/p][/quote]Spot on! History was yesterday. Let's live in the present. Come on you Ssaints! NetleyNed
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6:42pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Solent Saint says...

I just find it amazing that the Echo put up a picture with MacMoneyme

FFS, start supporting the Saints.
I just find it amazing that the Echo put up a picture with MacMoneyme FFS, start supporting the Saints. Solent Saint
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7:12pm Sun 27 Jan 13

townieboy says...

Tight Jock pay up like the rest of the fans.
Tight Jock pay up like the rest of the fans. townieboy
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7:45pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Block41row0sfc says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Block41row0sfc wrote:
Negative!
A man of one word.
You all upset. Didums
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: Negative![/p][/quote]A man of one word.[/p][/quote]You all upset. Didums Block41row0sfc
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8:27pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Block41row0sfc says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Block41row0sfc wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Just to Pre-empt the Echo:

Le Tiss is not happy because:

a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets

b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house)

c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet

d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful.

He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences.

Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good.
What have you done copied and pasted everything le tiss has said about it on twitter today. Not surprised someone like you can't come up with his own points though. CHAV
For my own point of view read my other posts idiot. I never claimed these as my own idiot.
Peasant
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: Just to Pre-empt the Echo: Le Tiss is not happy because: a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house) c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful. He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences. Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good.[/p][/quote]What have you done copied and pasted everything le tiss has said about it on twitter today. Not surprised someone like you can't come up with his own points though. CHAV[/p][/quote]For my own point of view read my other posts idiot. I never claimed these as my own idiot.[/p][/quote]Peasant Block41row0sfc
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9:44pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Block41row0sfc wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Block41row0sfc wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Just to Pre-empt the Echo:

Le Tiss is not happy because:

a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets

b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house)

c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet

d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful.

He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences.

Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good.
What have you done copied and pasted everything le tiss has said about it on twitter today. Not surprised someone like you can't come up with his own points though. CHAV
For my own point of view read my other posts idiot. I never claimed these as my own idiot.
Peasant
Turnip guv'ner? No offense but you epitomize what is wrong with society.
[quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: Just to Pre-empt the Echo: Le Tiss is not happy because: a) Cortese lied. They have met and he did slander him by accusing him of asking for free tickets b) If old legends are welcome why is Franny banned. (He confirmed Cortese trashed his house) c) He has two security guards outside when he is invited to corporate to ensure he goes nowhere but the toilet d) Still no thanks to Adkins which is disrepectful. He has asked Saints to arrange sit down talks with the chairman to discuss differences. Can't see Cortese going for it some how but it would be good.[/p][/quote]What have you done copied and pasted everything le tiss has said about it on twitter today. Not surprised someone like you can't come up with his own points though. CHAV[/p][/quote]For my own point of view read my other posts idiot. I never claimed these as my own idiot.[/p][/quote]Peasant[/p][/quote]Turnip guv'ner? No offense but you epitomize what is wrong with society. Thornhill Saint
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9:46pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Block41row0sfc wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Block41row0sfc wrote:
Negative!
A man of one word.
You all upset. Didums
Even more pathetic, to be fair.
[quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: Negative![/p][/quote]A man of one word.[/p][/quote]You all upset. Didums[/p][/quote]Even more pathetic, to be fair. Thornhill Saint
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10:53pm Sun 27 Jan 13

ben dover says...

Le Tiss is history,Cortese and Pochettino are the future !
Le Tiss is history,Cortese and Pochettino are the future ! ben dover
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12:07pm Mon 28 Jan 13

murfmeister says...

well to be honest Jim if Cortese knew nothing about it then, he will now
well to be honest Jim if Cortese knew nothing about it then, he will now murfmeister
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12:09pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Beer Monster says...

DonRicardoMeerkat wrote:
Confucious wrote:
There's often Echo knocking on here and I haven't been one to join it - until now. The Pink was largely negative this weekend too - still going on in spades about Nigel and complaining that supporters are now being treated as mere customers and that increasingly the club is being run, God forbid, "as a business." Of course it's easy to whip up sentiment using this stuff and the article about Jim Steele. Nicola is hardly no 'charmer' and our relationship with the club is more emotional than financial. But we know only too well what happens to clubs nowadays which are not run well as businesses. And many fans who want to be seen as 'supporters' when things are going well, soon revert to being complaining 'customers' when they are going badly. Success today only comes with financial clout and that only comes by running clubs in a sound way - or through a purchase by a billionaire sugar daddy who will use it, for a very uncertain period, as a personal toy. I don't believe that Nicola's only motive is financial. I think he has a mission to create a successful long term future for the club - a mission which he planted in Markus Leibherr's mind and which he then shared with him. Markus did not buy a business. He didn't need to or want to. He bought a dream. Only time will tell whether or not Nicola will succeed, but so far, three managers and three divisions later, I'm essentially a happy supporter AND a satisfied customer. The club could and should, however, improve its' PR and communications on sensitive issues - at no extra cost at all. The Echo might also consider how far it wants to take the obvious rift with the club and whether or not it is becoming seriously adrift from the views held by the majority of its' Saints supporting readers. Meanwhile, even if the somewhat hysterical critics are right, I'd still rather have a club with no soul than a soul with no club (as we may soon see down the M27).
excellent post, though i am worried that someone has kidnapped our confucious!!!!!
My sentiments exactly - not a piece of Chinese philosophy in sight. Bizarre.
[quote][p][bold]DonRicardoMeerkat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: There's often Echo knocking on here and I haven't been one to join it - until now. The Pink was largely negative this weekend too - still going on in spades about Nigel and complaining that supporters are now being treated as mere customers and that increasingly the club is being run, God forbid, "as a business." Of course it's easy to whip up sentiment using this stuff and the article about Jim Steele. Nicola is hardly no 'charmer' and our relationship with the club is more emotional than financial. But we know only too well what happens to clubs nowadays which are not run well as businesses. And many fans who want to be seen as 'supporters' when things are going well, soon revert to being complaining 'customers' when they are going badly. Success today only comes with financial clout and that only comes by running clubs in a sound way - or through a purchase by a billionaire sugar daddy who will use it, for a very uncertain period, as a personal toy. I don't believe that Nicola's only motive is financial. I think he has a mission to create a successful long term future for the club - a mission which he planted in Markus Leibherr's mind and which he then shared with him. Markus did not buy a business. He didn't need to or want to. He bought a dream. Only time will tell whether or not Nicola will succeed, but so far, three managers and three divisions later, I'm essentially a happy supporter AND a satisfied customer. The club could and should, however, improve its' PR and communications on sensitive issues - at no extra cost at all. The Echo might also consider how far it wants to take the obvious rift with the club and whether or not it is becoming seriously adrift from the views held by the majority of its' Saints supporting readers. Meanwhile, even if the somewhat hysterical critics are right, I'd still rather have a club with no soul than a soul with no club (as we may soon see down the M27).[/p][/quote]excellent post, though i am worried that someone has kidnapped our confucious!!!!![/p][/quote]My sentiments exactly - not a piece of Chinese philosophy in sight. Bizarre. Beer Monster
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12:35pm Mon 28 Jan 13

CB FRY LIVES says...

verwoodsaint wrote:
Another Ex Saint trying to do damage to our club ! Move on boys , please ...
ex players dont have to try to damage the club when we have a despot like aunty nicola running the club.no wonder the club are struggling to sign new players.what half decent player would want to come to southampton when they hear all the mind blowing stories about the petty tyrant who runs the place.
[quote][p][bold]verwoodsaint[/bold] wrote: Another Ex Saint trying to do damage to our club ! Move on boys , please ...[/p][/quote]ex players dont have to try to damage the club when we have a despot like aunty nicola running the club.no wonder the club are struggling to sign new players.what half decent player would want to come to southampton when they hear all the mind blowing stories about the petty tyrant who runs the place. CB FRY LIVES
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1:43pm Mon 28 Jan 13

CB FRY LIVES says...

ben dover wrote:
Le Tiss is history,Cortese and Pochettino are the future !
Pochettino will be history if he fails to get a point in the next 3 games.cortese will send him on gardening leave to the falklands.
[quote][p][bold]ben dover[/bold] wrote: Le Tiss is history,Cortese and Pochettino are the future ![/p][/quote]Pochettino will be history if he fails to get a point in the next 3 games.cortese will send him on gardening leave to the falklands. CB FRY LIVES
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2:50pm Mon 28 Jan 13

CB FRY LIVES says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
This is the second article they have run on this. All very negative.

Why do some ex-Saints have trouble and others do not?

Did Jim Steele try to arrange anything with the club, or cafe in advance or did he just turn up?

If he just turned up it does put the people running the Cafe in an unfair, awkward position.

From the sound of the article, I doubt Cortese would have even have been aware of it.
if he was fully hands on he should have been aware of it.obviously he has been slacking.which begs the question is he really up for it.
MOVE OVER ROVER AND LET MATTY TAKE OVER.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: This is the second article they have run on this. All very negative. Why do some ex-Saints have trouble and others do not? Did Jim Steele try to arrange anything with the club, or cafe in advance or did he just turn up? If he just turned up it does put the people running the Cafe in an unfair, awkward position. From the sound of the article, I doubt Cortese would have even have been aware of it.[/p][/quote]if he was fully hands on he should have been aware of it.obviously he has been slacking.which begs the question is he really up for it. MOVE OVER ROVER AND LET MATTY TAKE OVER. CB FRY LIVES
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4:44pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Tell it as I see it says...

roofspace wrote:
There is an interview with Cortese online at http://www.skysports .com/video/inline/0, ,20699_8445829,00.ht ml Which is a P.R. Exercise. I like the **** (no mention of the reason he sacked Adkins) that everybody who has Southampton at heart is welcome at the club. Try telling that to Le God, Big Mac, Jim Steele and the programme sellers.
Lawrie Mac does attend games - usually as a guest of a box holder, MLT has season tickets and Jim Steele was asked to leave a members only club by a member of security staff who was not old enough to have been around when we won the cup and not wise enough to ask for advice before asking Steelie to leave.

The programme sellers were the decsion of the Marketing Manager which I think was ill advised,replacing people with 20yrs (30 yrs for one or two) with dolly girls in short skirts makes little sense to me - who takes the blame when one of them is robbed or sexually assaulted?

NC does not Micro manage however he does set very exacting standards which he expects to be met by all staff, he is by his own admission a perfectionist which does by definition make him a difficult man to work for but his dedication to OUR club is unquestionable and I would rather see an ambitious chairman than one who sees 17th place as success.
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: There is an interview with Cortese online at http://www.skysports .com/video/inline/0, ,20699_8445829,00.ht ml Which is a P.R. Exercise. I like the **** (no mention of the reason he sacked Adkins) that everybody who has Southampton at heart is welcome at the club. Try telling that to Le God, Big Mac, Jim Steele and the programme sellers.[/p][/quote]Lawrie Mac does attend games - usually as a guest of a box holder, MLT has season tickets and Jim Steele was asked to leave a members only club by a member of security staff who was not old enough to have been around when we won the cup and not wise enough to ask for advice before asking Steelie to leave. The programme sellers were the decsion of the Marketing Manager which I think was ill advised,replacing people with 20yrs (30 yrs for one or two) with dolly girls in short skirts makes little sense to me - who takes the blame when one of them is robbed or sexually assaulted? NC does not Micro manage however he does set very exacting standards which he expects to be met by all staff, he is by his own admission a perfectionist which does by definition make him a difficult man to work for but his dedication to OUR club is unquestionable and I would rather see an ambitious chairman than one who sees 17th place as success. Tell it as I see it
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7:53pm Tue 29 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
This is the second article they have run on this. All very negative.

Why do some ex-Saints have trouble and others do not?

Did Jim Steele try to arrange anything with the club, or cafe in advance or did he just turn up?

If he just turned up it does put the people running the Cafe in an unfair, awkward position.

From the sound of the article, I doubt Cortese would have even have been aware of it.
if he was fully hands on he should have been aware of it.obviously he has been slacking.which begs the question is he really up for it.
MOVE OVER ROVER AND LET MATTY TAKE OVER.
If you are talking about team management don't you mean roll over Mauricio?

NC's succesful track record as chairman stands for itself. Matt Le Tis, ehhhm, zero experience, zero track record.

Le Tiss can be controversial, NC, well that may be a tie, OK NC might just shade it.

Between Mauricio and Le Tiss for manager, I am sorry, but as much as I love Let Tiss for what he has done for this club, I would go Mauricio.

Please, for the sake of space on these threads, get over your prejudices and personal loyalties and get behind the club. Time has moved on.

If you don't like the change of guard sell your ST and go get a job at the echo. Saying that though, I doubt even they would have you judging from your posts.
[quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: This is the second article they have run on this. All very negative. Why do some ex-Saints have trouble and others do not? Did Jim Steele try to arrange anything with the club, or cafe in advance or did he just turn up? If he just turned up it does put the people running the Cafe in an unfair, awkward position. From the sound of the article, I doubt Cortese would have even have been aware of it.[/p][/quote]if he was fully hands on he should have been aware of it.obviously he has been slacking.which begs the question is he really up for it. MOVE OVER ROVER AND LET MATTY TAKE OVER.[/p][/quote]If you are talking about team management don't you mean roll over Mauricio? NC's succesful track record as chairman stands for itself. Matt Le Tis, ehhhm, zero experience, zero track record. Le Tiss can be controversial, NC, well that may be a tie, OK NC might just shade it. Between Mauricio and Le Tiss for manager, I am sorry, but as much as I love Let Tiss for what he has done for this club, I would go Mauricio. Please, for the sake of space on these threads, get over your prejudices and personal loyalties and get behind the club. Time has moved on. If you don't like the change of guard sell your ST and go get a job at the echo. Saying that though, I doubt even they would have you judging from your posts. Thornhill Saint
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