Matthew Le Tissier accuses Saints chairman Nicola Cortese of lying about him

Daily Echo: Matt Le Tissier Matt Le Tissier

MATT Le Tissier has called for a clear-the-air meeting with Saints’ chairman Nicola Cortese.

The footballer-turned-pundit had accused the Italian of having an “ego problem” after the controversial sacking of Nigel Adkins.

But Southampton’s executive chairman has hit back, saying in an interview today that the negativity from the former England man was not beneficial for the club.

After Cortese’s interview, in which he insisted anyone with Saints’ best interests at heart has a place at the club, Le Tissier said he had agreed with a lot of what had been said about the situation at St Mary’s.

But the Sky Sports pundit accused the Southampton supremo of lying about him, and being “disrespectful” to Adkins, who was immediately replaced by Argentine ex-Espanyol boss Mauricio Pochettino.

Speaking on Twitter, Le Tissier, who has a season ticket at St Mary’s which he insisted he paid for, said: “Must be honest, a lot of what (Nicola Cortese) said made sense, but still no thanks to Nigel. Disrespectful.”

“Oh, and two blatant lies when speaking about me! I have met him and he has criticised me in the past, accused me of asking for free tickets I recall.

“And if old players are welcome why is Fran Benali banned?

“And why when I’m invited into a corporate box, two security guards are placed outside to stop me going anywhere else apart from the toilet?”

But Le Tissier, who said he had met Cortese and Markus Liebherr shortly after they arrived at St Mary’s, went on to offer an apparent olive branch, saying he would like to meet with Cortese to “discuss differences”.

And has asked the Saints’ communications team to set up an opportunity for the two to talk.

He said: “I’d be more than happy to sit down with Nicola Cortese and some witnesses, season ticket holders.”

Click here to read more of Cortese's thoughts, including his defence of the sacking of Nigel Adkins.

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12:33pm Sun 27 Jan 13

roofspace says...

Good Luck with that !!!!!!!!!
Good Luck with that !!!!!!!!! roofspace
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12:41pm Sun 27 Jan 13

roofspace says...

100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days. 100% like And respect him. 100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion. 0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants). Now why would that be? roofspace
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12:42pm Sun 27 Jan 13

three halves says...

Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese. three halves
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12:50pm Sun 27 Jan 13

iswhite10 says...

Matt, if you want to sort this don't do it in the media, do it in private.
If there's one thing we can all work out about Nicola it's don't wash dirty linen (or indeed ANY linen!) in public, whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation.
Matt, if you want to sort this don't do it in the media, do it in private. If there's one thing we can all work out about Nicola it's don't wash dirty linen (or indeed ANY linen!) in public, whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation. iswhite10
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12:50pm Sun 27 Jan 13

St.Yorkie says...

Maybe Matt should go along with Franny Benali - and offer the olive branch.
I'm sure if they were both to go - there wouldn't be any clash of egoes - and I know where the olive branch could end up!!
I can't for the life of me see what all the fuss is about - I don't see Franny bleeting about not going to SMS. I'm sure he loves the club, I'm sure he would do his bit in corporate hospitality, but his silence is deafening.
I guess that's because there are other issues we are not aware of going on behind the scenes! Bravo Franny for not getting involved in the public spat!
Maybe Matt should go along with Franny Benali - and offer the olive branch. I'm sure if they were both to go - there wouldn't be any clash of egoes - and I know where the olive branch could end up!! I can't for the life of me see what all the fuss is about - I don't see Franny bleeting about not going to SMS. I'm sure he loves the club, I'm sure he would do his bit in corporate hospitality, but his silence is deafening. I guess that's because there are other issues we are not aware of going on behind the scenes! Bravo Franny for not getting involved in the public spat! St.Yorkie
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12:55pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success? Five Trophies Between Us
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12:56pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Red n White says...

roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?
I don't have much respect for Le Tissier as a person since he finished his football career. He has taken every opportunity to knock Cortese publicly, on Twitter, TV and even at charity events.
I admire Cortese for his vision for the club. You may have been happy to bounce between the Championship and Premiership, but myself I want to see Saints rise up the table, and it's Cortese's vision to get us into Europe so I respect and like him.
Don't talk like you represent every Saints fan, or are you hoping for an interview from the Echo?
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: 100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days. 100% like And respect him. 100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion. 0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants). Now why would that be?[/p][/quote]I don't have much respect for Le Tissier as a person since he finished his football career. He has taken every opportunity to knock Cortese publicly, on Twitter, TV and even at charity events. I admire Cortese for his vision for the club. You may have been happy to bounce between the Championship and Premiership, but myself I want to see Saints rise up the table, and it's Cortese's vision to get us into Europe so I respect and like him. Don't talk like you represent every Saints fan, or are you hoping for an interview from the Echo? Red n White
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12:56pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Velleity says...

three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility. Velleity
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12:57pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Can we watch? Seriously, if MLT did meet NC face to face as the decent bloke we think he is, and not as some kind of superhero, I think they will get on fine. Working together would be another string in our bow. It's time to bury the hatchet, patch up old wounds and stride forward as one. That goes for FB as well if he knows whats good for him.
Can we watch? Seriously, if MLT did meet NC face to face as the decent bloke we think he is, and not as some kind of superhero, I think they will get on fine. Working together would be another string in our bow. It's time to bury the hatchet, patch up old wounds and stride forward as one. That goes for FB as well if he knows whats good for him. OSPREYSAINT
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12:58pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
More than any of yours. How many days is it now?
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]More than any of yours. How many days is it now? Thornhill Saint
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12:59pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Shushsock poppet.
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Shushsock poppet. OSPREYSAINT
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1:00pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?
I don't know, tell us.
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: 100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days. 100% like And respect him. 100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion. 0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants). Now why would that be?[/p][/quote]I don't know, tell us. OSPREYSAINT
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1:01pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
More than any of yours. How many days is it now?
cant answer my question
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]More than any of yours. How many days is it now?[/p][/quote]cant answer my question Five Trophies Between Us
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1:02pm Sun 27 Jan 13

apm1954 says...

here we go again , come on we are the saints family ,we dont need this bickering remember once a saint allways a saint
here we go again , come on we are the saints family ,we dont need this bickering remember once a saint allways a saint apm1954
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1:03pm Sun 27 Jan 13

TommyAcland says...

It would be wonderful to see legends from our club's heritage: like my favourite ever player and boy-hood hero Mathew Le Tissier, and Mr Cortese - make peace, all around, honour the past, look to the future. At the end of the day, we all want the same thing, as Saints' supporters, and that's to see a HAPPY, UNITED, SUCCESSFUL club. What a wonderful moment it would be if the hatchet could be buried and the two of you's: Matt and Nicola could iron out your differences and come onto the pitch and wave to the crowd !!! What a reception and a lift to all the supporters and the team. Possible? Unlikely? All I know is I'm a lifelong Southampton supporter and want us all "together as one".
It would be wonderful to see legends from our club's heritage: like my favourite ever player and boy-hood hero Mathew Le Tissier, and Mr Cortese - make peace, all around, honour the past, look to the future. At the end of the day, we all want the same thing, as Saints' supporters, and that's to see a HAPPY, UNITED, SUCCESSFUL club. What a wonderful moment it would be if the hatchet could be buried and the two of you's: Matt and Nicola could iron out your differences and come onto the pitch and wave to the crowd !!! What a reception and a lift to all the supporters and the team. Possible? Unlikely? All I know is I'm a lifelong Southampton supporter and want us all "together as one". TommyAcland
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1:04pm Sun 27 Jan 13

three halves says...

Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ? three halves
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1:07pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Velleity says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions. Velleity
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1:08pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
a "bloke" who spends all day on t site checking the credibility of posters, 2 c if they deserve a response. wat a lowlife. shame 4 him.
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ?[/p][/quote]a "bloke" who spends all day on t site checking the credibility of posters, 2 c if they deserve a response. wat a lowlife. shame 4 him. Five Trophies Between Us
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1:08pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
Velleity, not Welsh, not Osprey, and certainly not Southampton Dominance unlike you, poppet.
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ?[/p][/quote]Velleity, not Welsh, not Osprey, and certainly not Southampton Dominance unlike you, poppet. OSPREYSAINT
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1:09pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.
where are the trophies
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.[/p][/quote]where are the trophies Five Trophies Between Us
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1:09pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
a "bloke" who spends all day on t site checking the credibility of posters, 2 c if they deserve a response. wat a lowlife. shame 4 him.
You have no credibility to check.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ?[/p][/quote]a "bloke" who spends all day on t site checking the credibility of posters, 2 c if they deserve a response. wat a lowlife. shame 4 him.[/p][/quote]You have no credibility to check. OSPREYSAINT
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1:10pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.
where are the trophies
Yours went on e-Bay years ago.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.[/p][/quote]where are the trophies[/p][/quote]Yours went on e-Bay years ago. OSPREYSAINT
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1:11pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Red n White says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
More than any of yours. How many days is it now?
cant answer my question
Your comment implies that neither Pardew nor Adkins brought success to us, which would mean that Cortese was right in getting rid of them.
Who do we as fans owe loyalty to though; the club, the chairman, the manager, the players? The only long term (in most cases) is the club, which is run by the chairman, who mostly more money, which is the result of a successful club. Therefore, we should back the chairman as they are the long-term, whereas managers are only for the short-term.
The latest rumour is that NA lost the players, if so who do we owe loyalty to there, the players or the manager? Surely as a skate you would have realised the importance of good money management?! We spent up to £30 million, I doubt Cortese is willing to see it wasted by going straight back down.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]More than any of yours. How many days is it now?[/p][/quote]cant answer my question[/p][/quote]Your comment implies that neither Pardew nor Adkins brought success to us, which would mean that Cortese was right in getting rid of them. Who do we as fans owe loyalty to though; the club, the chairman, the manager, the players? The only long term (in most cases) is the club, which is run by the chairman, who mostly more money, which is the result of a successful club. Therefore, we should back the chairman as they are the long-term, whereas managers are only for the short-term. The latest rumour is that NA lost the players, if so who do we owe loyalty to there, the players or the manager? Surely as a skate you would have realised the importance of good money management?! We spent up to £30 million, I doubt Cortese is willing to see it wasted by going straight back down. Red n White
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1:12pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

apm1954 wrote:
here we go again , come on we are the saints family ,we dont need this bickering remember once a saint allways a saint
Sorry fellow, welcome by the way, but some of these posters are not in anyway Saints representatives, WUMs, Trolls and Sock Puppets, don't be fooled.
[quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: here we go again , come on we are the saints family ,we dont need this bickering remember once a saint allways a saint[/p][/quote]Sorry fellow, welcome by the way, but some of these posters are not in anyway Saints representatives, WUMs, Trolls and Sock Puppets, don't be fooled. OSPREYSAINT
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1:15pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

I doubt it will last but Brentford 1 up against Chelsea!
I doubt it will last but Brentford 1 up against Chelsea! OSPREYSAINT
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1:16pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.
where are the trophies
Yours went on e-Bay years ago.
2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.[/p][/quote]where are the trophies[/p][/quote]Yours went on e-Bay years ago.[/p][/quote]2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul Five Trophies Between Us
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1:16pm Sun 27 Jan 13

saintlysoul says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Can we watch? Seriously, if MLT did meet NC face to face as the decent bloke we think he is, and not as some kind of superhero, I think they will get on fine. Working together would be another string in our bow. It's time to bury the hatchet, patch up old wounds and stride forward as one. That goes for FB as well if he knows whats good for him.
Well said!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Can we watch? Seriously, if MLT did meet NC face to face as the decent bloke we think he is, and not as some kind of superhero, I think they will get on fine. Working together would be another string in our bow. It's time to bury the hatchet, patch up old wounds and stride forward as one. That goes for FB as well if he knows whats good for him.[/p][/quote]Well said!!!!!! saintlysoul
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1:17pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Level now Oscar equalised
Level now Oscar equalised OSPREYSAINT
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1:18pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Velleity says...

three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent
141/southamptondomin
ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ?[/p][/quote]I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing. Velleity
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1:20pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

Red n White wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
More than any of yours. How many days is it now?
cant answer my question
Your comment implies that neither Pardew nor Adkins brought success to us, which would mean that Cortese was right in getting rid of them. Who do we as fans owe loyalty to though; the club, the chairman, the manager, the players? The only long term (in most cases) is the club, which is run by the chairman, who mostly more money, which is the result of a successful club. Therefore, we should back the chairman as they are the long-term, whereas managers are only for the short-term. The latest rumour is that NA lost the players, if so who do we owe loyalty to there, the players or the manager? Surely as a skate you would have realised the importance of good money management?! We spent up to £30 million, I doubt Cortese is willing to see it wasted by going straight back down.
mayb Coutinho didnt want 2 come as he didnt think the new manager would b there very long. i bet brendan rodgers will be around much longer, and can get his players 2 play with more freedom
[quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]More than any of yours. How many days is it now?[/p][/quote]cant answer my question[/p][/quote]Your comment implies that neither Pardew nor Adkins brought success to us, which would mean that Cortese was right in getting rid of them. Who do we as fans owe loyalty to though; the club, the chairman, the manager, the players? The only long term (in most cases) is the club, which is run by the chairman, who mostly more money, which is the result of a successful club. Therefore, we should back the chairman as they are the long-term, whereas managers are only for the short-term. The latest rumour is that NA lost the players, if so who do we owe loyalty to there, the players or the manager? Surely as a skate you would have realised the importance of good money management?! We spent up to £30 million, I doubt Cortese is willing to see it wasted by going straight back down.[/p][/quote]mayb Coutinho didnt want 2 come as he didnt think the new manager would b there very long. i bet brendan rodgers will be around much longer, and can get his players 2 play with more freedom Five Trophies Between Us
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1:20pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.
where are the trophies
Yours went on e-Bay years ago.
2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul
2002 was a poor Chamionship Year and we all know how the 2008 Cup was "bought". When Lance Armstrong cheated he had his Trophies removed.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.[/p][/quote]where are the trophies[/p][/quote]Yours went on e-Bay years ago.[/p][/quote]2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul[/p][/quote]2002 was a poor Chamionship Year and we all know how the 2008 Cup was "bought". When Lance Armstrong cheated he had his Trophies removed. OSPREYSAINT
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1:20pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
More than any of yours. How many days is it now?
cant answer my question
just did, what do you want, an essay. You can't tell the future any more than anyone else.

Also you have you own problems. Shouldnt you be on another site making constructive comments rather than on here speculating.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]More than any of yours. How many days is it now?[/p][/quote]cant answer my question[/p][/quote]just did, what do you want, an essay. You can't tell the future any more than anyone else. Also you have you own problems. Shouldnt you be on another site making constructive comments rather than on here speculating. Thornhill Saint
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1:22pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.
but ur friends here post on the news site. so u r guilty by association, and as sad as them
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ?[/p][/quote]I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.[/p][/quote]but ur friends here post on the news site. so u r guilty by association, and as sad as them Five Trophies Between Us
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1:23pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
More than any of yours. How many days is it now?
cant answer my question
Your comment implies that neither Pardew nor Adkins brought success to us, which would mean that Cortese was right in getting rid of them. Who do we as fans owe loyalty to though; the club, the chairman, the manager, the players? The only long term (in most cases) is the club, which is run by the chairman, who mostly more money, which is the result of a successful club. Therefore, we should back the chairman as they are the long-term, whereas managers are only for the short-term. The latest rumour is that NA lost the players, if so who do we owe loyalty to there, the players or the manager? Surely as a skate you would have realised the importance of good money management?! We spent up to £30 million, I doubt Cortese is willing to see it wasted by going straight back down.
mayb Coutinho didnt want 2 come as he didnt think the new manager would b there very long. i bet brendan rodgers will be around much longer, and can get his players 2 play with more freedom
Maybe, but I suspect he was demanding first pick and we couldn't guarantee that, as we have adequate players already.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]More than any of yours. How many days is it now?[/p][/quote]cant answer my question[/p][/quote]Your comment implies that neither Pardew nor Adkins brought success to us, which would mean that Cortese was right in getting rid of them. Who do we as fans owe loyalty to though; the club, the chairman, the manager, the players? The only long term (in most cases) is the club, which is run by the chairman, who mostly more money, which is the result of a successful club. Therefore, we should back the chairman as they are the long-term, whereas managers are only for the short-term. The latest rumour is that NA lost the players, if so who do we owe loyalty to there, the players or the manager? Surely as a skate you would have realised the importance of good money management?! We spent up to £30 million, I doubt Cortese is willing to see it wasted by going straight back down.[/p][/quote]mayb Coutinho didnt want 2 come as he didnt think the new manager would b there very long. i bet brendan rodgers will be around much longer, and can get his players 2 play with more freedom[/p][/quote]Maybe, but I suspect he was demanding first pick and we couldn't guarantee that, as we have adequate players already. OSPREYSAINT
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1:26pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.
where are the trophies
Yours went on e-Bay years ago.
2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul
2002 was a poor Chamionship Year and we all know how the 2008 Cup was "bought". When Lance Armstrong cheated he had his Trophies removed.
i am watching ur club closely and t money that they will soon b spending. ur club has for years injected t team with pompey boys . haha
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.[/p][/quote]where are the trophies[/p][/quote]Yours went on e-Bay years ago.[/p][/quote]2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul[/p][/quote]2002 was a poor Chamionship Year and we all know how the 2008 Cup was "bought". When Lance Armstrong cheated he had his Trophies removed.[/p][/quote]i am watching ur club closely and t money that they will soon b spending. ur club has for years injected t team with pompey boys . haha Five Trophies Between Us
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1:29pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.
but ur friends here post on the news site. so u r guilty by association, and as sad as them
I didn't vote for them to post on The News site, it is not actually a crime so I am not guilty of anything. I posted just once, to point out a certain sock puppet wasn't what he was pretending to be, several Saints posters have been sending sensible advice, well worth paying attention to and several posters on The News site pretend to be Saints when they are nothing of the sort, they usually end up giving themselves away. You should spend your time on there and not on here, unless you can find something sensible to say, I dare you. I doubt you and currently I despise you.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ?[/p][/quote]I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.[/p][/quote]but ur friends here post on the news site. so u r guilty by association, and as sad as them[/p][/quote]I didn't vote for them to post on The News site, it is not actually a crime so I am not guilty of anything. I posted just once, to point out a certain sock puppet wasn't what he was pretending to be, several Saints posters have been sending sensible advice, well worth paying attention to and several posters on The News site pretend to be Saints when they are nothing of the sort, they usually end up giving themselves away. You should spend your time on there and not on here, unless you can find something sensible to say, I dare you. I doubt you and currently I despise you. OSPREYSAINT
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1:30pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.
where are the trophies
Yours went on e-Bay years ago.
2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul
2002 was a poor Chamionship Year and we all know how the 2008 Cup was "bought". When Lance Armstrong cheated he had his Trophies removed.
i am watching ur club closely and t money that they will soon b spending. ur club has for years injected t team with pompey boys . haha
Read and weep.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.[/p][/quote]where are the trophies[/p][/quote]Yours went on e-Bay years ago.[/p][/quote]2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul[/p][/quote]2002 was a poor Chamionship Year and we all know how the 2008 Cup was "bought". When Lance Armstrong cheated he had his Trophies removed.[/p][/quote]i am watching ur club closely and t money that they will soon b spending. ur club has for years injected t team with pompey boys . haha[/p][/quote]Read and weep. OSPREYSAINT
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1:31pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Brentford 2 1 up Penalty
Brentford 2 1 up Penalty OSPREYSAINT
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1:38pm Sun 27 Jan 13

loadcee says...

Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of .
Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of . loadcee
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1:39pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Sainty, saint, saint, do you have anything to say in reply to le God's comments (could just copy and paste?)
Sainty, saint, saint, do you have anything to say in reply to le God's comments (could just copy and paste?) Thornhill Saint
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1:40pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.
but ur friends here post on the news site. so u r guilty by association, and as sad as them
I didn't vote for them to post on The News site, it is not actually a crime so I am not guilty of anything. I posted just once, to point out a certain sock puppet wasn't what he was pretending to be, several Saints posters have been sending sensible advice, well worth paying attention to and several posters on The News site pretend to be Saints when they are nothing of the sort, they usually end up giving themselves away. You should spend your time on there and not on here, unless you can find something sensible to say, I dare you. I doubt you and currently I despise you.
diddems gramps. u r responsible for a quarter of all posts on here. u need 2 get out and meet real people.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ?[/p][/quote]I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.[/p][/quote]but ur friends here post on the news site. so u r guilty by association, and as sad as them[/p][/quote]I didn't vote for them to post on The News site, it is not actually a crime so I am not guilty of anything. I posted just once, to point out a certain sock puppet wasn't what he was pretending to be, several Saints posters have been sending sensible advice, well worth paying attention to and several posters on The News site pretend to be Saints when they are nothing of the sort, they usually end up giving themselves away. You should spend your time on there and not on here, unless you can find something sensible to say, I dare you. I doubt you and currently I despise you.[/p][/quote]diddems gramps. u r responsible for a quarter of all posts on here. u need 2 get out and meet real people. Five Trophies Between Us
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1:42pm Sun 27 Jan 13

three halves says...

Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent

141/southamptondomin

ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.
You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ?[/p][/quote]I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.[/p][/quote]You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up. three halves
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1:44pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent


141/southamptondomin


ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.
You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.
That is so ironic it's untrue! OK you have had your feed of attention, back to your worm hole, no more from me today.
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ?[/p][/quote]I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.[/p][/quote]You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.[/p][/quote]That is so ironic it's untrue! OK you have had your feed of attention, back to your worm hole, no more from me today. OSPREYSAINT
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1:44pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Ross123 says...

three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
le tiss is my all time hero!

love you matt!

top bloke! agree all the time with him,

fran benali being banned is a disgrace!
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]le tiss is my all time hero! love you matt! top bloke! agree all the time with him, fran benali being banned is a disgrace! Ross123
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1:45pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

2 2 Torres, phew I am still hoping it says Saints were knocked out by the eventual Cup Winners!
2 2 Torres, phew I am still hoping it says Saints were knocked out by the eventual Cup Winners! OSPREYSAINT
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1:46pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.
where are the trophies
Yours went on e-Bay years ago.
2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul
Looking to the future....Are you for the pst or for liquidation of PFC followed by a phoenix club?
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.[/p][/quote]where are the trophies[/p][/quote]Yours went on e-Bay years ago.[/p][/quote]2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul[/p][/quote]Looking to the future....Are you for the pst or for liquidation of PFC followed by a phoenix club? Baddesley Bill
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1:47pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.
but ur friends here post on the news site. so u r guilty by association, and as sad as them
I didn't vote for them to post on The News site, it is not actually a crime so I am not guilty of anything. I posted just once, to point out a certain sock puppet wasn't what he was pretending to be, several Saints posters have been sending sensible advice, well worth paying attention to and several posters on The News site pretend to be Saints when they are nothing of the sort, they usually end up giving themselves away. You should spend your time on there and not on here, unless you can find something sensible to say, I dare you. I doubt you and currently I despise you.
diddems gramps. u r responsible for a quarter of all posts on here. u need 2 get out and meet real people.
As long as I never meet you I will be happy. Ta Ta for now.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ?[/p][/quote]I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.[/p][/quote]but ur friends here post on the news site. so u r guilty by association, and as sad as them[/p][/quote]I didn't vote for them to post on The News site, it is not actually a crime so I am not guilty of anything. I posted just once, to point out a certain sock puppet wasn't what he was pretending to be, several Saints posters have been sending sensible advice, well worth paying attention to and several posters on The News site pretend to be Saints when they are nothing of the sort, they usually end up giving themselves away. You should spend your time on there and not on here, unless you can find something sensible to say, I dare you. I doubt you and currently I despise you.[/p][/quote]diddems gramps. u r responsible for a quarter of all posts on here. u need 2 get out and meet real people.[/p][/quote]As long as I never meet you I will be happy. Ta Ta for now. OSPREYSAINT
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1:55pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Replay for Brentford, well done them
Replay for Brentford, well done them OSPREYSAINT
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1:56pm Sun 27 Jan 13

milton road says...

Lol what longer than Kenny Dalglish stayed at Liverpool.

Again we see the Echo looking for the worst rather than the best in every article. Their personal vendetta on Cortese leaves one with the deep impression of vengeful hypocrisy a quite normal trait for the echo.
It is not a local paper that support Saints, one is left with the distinct impression, it works in many ways against the good of the club.
Why would Cortese want to meet with MLT what will it prove?
Cortese initiated Markus buying this club and saving Saints in oblivion.
Even in those first days MLT and Big Mac were running the man down about he didn't know anything about football.
WELL GUYS, WHAT DO YOU KNOW, HE HAS TAKEN US TO THE PREMIERSHIP.
MLT is a media man now and sorry Matt respect for you as a player but this sounds so much like a little boy being petty and throwing toys out his pram. You want to talk with Cortese, go and talk privately like a man over a beer or wine and bury the hatchet. This is getting pathetic and not doing the club any good and its not Cortese trying to sensationalize things.
Lol what longer than Kenny Dalglish stayed at Liverpool. Again we see the Echo looking for the worst rather than the best in every article. Their personal vendetta on Cortese leaves one with the deep impression of vengeful hypocrisy a quite normal trait for the echo. It is not a local paper that support Saints, one is left with the distinct impression, it works in many ways against the good of the club. Why would Cortese want to meet with MLT what will it prove? Cortese initiated Markus buying this club and saving Saints in oblivion. Even in those first days MLT and Big Mac were running the man down about he didn't know anything about football. WELL GUYS, WHAT DO YOU KNOW, HE HAS TAKEN US TO THE PREMIERSHIP. MLT is a media man now and sorry Matt respect for you as a player but this sounds so much like a little boy being petty and throwing toys out his pram. You want to talk with Cortese, go and talk privately like a man over a beer or wine and bury the hatchet. This is getting pathetic and not doing the club any good and its not Cortese trying to sensationalize things. milton road
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1:56pm Sun 27 Jan 13

SaintsBTGOG says...

About time Cortese stopped hiding behind the situaton he created. Hes had a clear chip on his shoulder from day 1 . Hes carred it out thorugh actions like banning him from buying tickets and allsorts.

Not the first time MLT as offered to sort the situation out. Cortese really is terribly arrogant and spiteful.
About time Cortese stopped hiding behind the situaton he created. Hes had a clear chip on his shoulder from day 1 . Hes carred it out thorugh actions like banning him from buying tickets and allsorts. Not the first time MLT as offered to sort the situation out. Cortese really is terribly arrogant and spiteful. SaintsBTGOG
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1:59pm Sun 27 Jan 13

three halves says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent



141/southamptondomin



ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.
You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.
That is so ironic it's untrue! OK you have had your feed of attention, back to your worm hole, no more from me today.
So osprey and velleity are the same person... well i never !!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ?[/p][/quote]I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.[/p][/quote]You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.[/p][/quote]That is so ironic it's untrue! OK you have had your feed of attention, back to your worm hole, no more from me today.[/p][/quote]So osprey and velleity are the same person... well i never !! three halves
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1:59pm Sun 27 Jan 13

rednwhite72 says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.
where are the trophies
with all due respect, and I am for once going to try and be serious with you here, how can a supporter of a club that has destroyed itself, over and over advise another on how to keep our house tidy. Your situation down there is unpresidented, without equal, there has never been such a catastrophic failure to run a business/football club by anyone ever before in football history(Im sure thats one part of bygone that you will wanna forget). Why did the supporters allow this to happen? you made choices, you allowed the former owners to destroy your club, make a choice you say? stick with the bygone era of leather balls and long shorts, or choose to move on? It seems our choice to embrass the changes that we know will help us move forward and become successful is the right one and from experience the choice to try and hold on to the old, bygone dusty trophy cabinet era has not helped one bit, infact probably helps to keep you down, do yourself a favour keep holding on to your past, because unfortunately your club at this time has no future.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.[/p][/quote]where are the trophies[/p][/quote]with all due respect, and I am for once going to try and be serious with you here, how can a supporter of a club that has destroyed itself, over and over advise another on how to keep our house tidy. Your situation down there is unpresidented, without equal, there has never been such a catastrophic failure to run a business/football club by anyone ever before in football history(Im sure thats one part of bygone that you will wanna forget). Why did the supporters allow this to happen? you made choices, you allowed the former owners to destroy your club, make a choice you say? stick with the bygone era of leather balls and long shorts, or choose to move on? It seems our choice to embrass the changes that we know will help us move forward and become successful is the right one and from experience the choice to try and hold on to the old, bygone dusty trophy cabinet era has not helped one bit, infact probably helps to keep you down, do yourself a favour keep holding on to your past, because unfortunately your club at this time has no future. rednwhite72
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2:00pm Sun 27 Jan 13

arm chair fan says...

Matt we all know was a one off as a player, but when will he learn to keep his gob shut?? this is the man who skuppered his england career by shooting his mouth about team plans. As was said before, sort it in private not in the press! and why do so many presume to know my opinions of NC ? 100% my ****!!!!
Matt we all know was a one off as a player, but when will he learn to keep his gob shut?? this is the man who skuppered his england career by shooting his mouth about team plans. As was said before, sort it in private not in the press! and why do so many presume to know my opinions of NC ? 100% my ****!!!! arm chair fan
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2:05pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

three halves wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent




141/southamptondomin




ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.
You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.
That is so ironic it's untrue! OK you have had your feed of attention, back to your worm hole, no more from me today.
So osprey and velleity are the same person... well i never !!
Unless Vell was born in Bassett, it's not me.
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ?[/p][/quote]I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.[/p][/quote]You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.[/p][/quote]That is so ironic it's untrue! OK you have had your feed of attention, back to your worm hole, no more from me today.[/p][/quote]So osprey and velleity are the same person... well i never !![/p][/quote]Unless Vell was born in Bassett, it's not me. OSPREYSAINT
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2:06pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
About time Cortese stopped hiding behind the situaton he created. Hes had a clear chip on his shoulder from day 1 . Hes carred it out thorugh actions like banning him from buying tickets and allsorts.

Not the first time MLT as offered to sort the situation out. Cortese really is terribly arrogant and spiteful.
You learned you own ways from him did you?
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: About time Cortese stopped hiding behind the situaton he created. Hes had a clear chip on his shoulder from day 1 . Hes carred it out thorugh actions like banning him from buying tickets and allsorts. Not the first time MLT as offered to sort the situation out. Cortese really is terribly arrogant and spiteful.[/p][/quote]You learned you own ways from him did you? OSPREYSAINT
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2:12pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

rednwhite72 wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.
where are the trophies
with all due respect, and I am for once going to try and be serious with you here, how can a supporter of a club that has destroyed itself, over and over advise another on how to keep our house tidy. Your situation down there is unpresidented, without equal, there has never been such a catastrophic failure to run a business/football club by anyone ever before in football history(Im sure thats one part of bygone that you will wanna forget). Why did the supporters allow this to happen? you made choices, you allowed the former owners to destroy your club, make a choice you say? stick with the bygone era of leather balls and long shorts, or choose to move on? It seems our choice to embrass the changes that we know will help us move forward and become successful is the right one and from experience the choice to try and hold on to the old, bygone dusty trophy cabinet era has not helped one bit, infact probably helps to keep you down, do yourself a favour keep holding on to your past, because unfortunately your club at this time has no future.
only a fan run future. get out a bit more eh?
[quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.[/p][/quote]where are the trophies[/p][/quote]with all due respect, and I am for once going to try and be serious with you here, how can a supporter of a club that has destroyed itself, over and over advise another on how to keep our house tidy. Your situation down there is unpresidented, without equal, there has never been such a catastrophic failure to run a business/football club by anyone ever before in football history(Im sure thats one part of bygone that you will wanna forget). Why did the supporters allow this to happen? you made choices, you allowed the former owners to destroy your club, make a choice you say? stick with the bygone era of leather balls and long shorts, or choose to move on? It seems our choice to embrass the changes that we know will help us move forward and become successful is the right one and from experience the choice to try and hold on to the old, bygone dusty trophy cabinet era has not helped one bit, infact probably helps to keep you down, do yourself a favour keep holding on to your past, because unfortunately your club at this time has no future.[/p][/quote]only a fan run future. get out a bit more eh? Five Trophies Between Us
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2:12pm Sun 27 Jan 13

three halves says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
three halves wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent





141/southamptondomin





ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.
You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.
That is so ironic it's untrue! OK you have had your feed of attention, back to your worm hole, no more from me today.
So osprey and velleity are the same person... well i never !!
Unless Vell was born in Bassett, it's not me.
Off course not !!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ?[/p][/quote]I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.[/p][/quote]You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.[/p][/quote]That is so ironic it's untrue! OK you have had your feed of attention, back to your worm hole, no more from me today.[/p][/quote]So osprey and velleity are the same person... well i never !![/p][/quote]Unless Vell was born in Bassett, it's not me.[/p][/quote]Off course not !! three halves
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2:15pm Sun 27 Jan 13

mickey01 says...

cortese has shown that he doesnt care who says and who does what an if the supporters want success then maybe he is the type of person s f c needs but i honestly feel that the days of what the supporters think in football does not matter to the clubs
cortese has shown that he doesnt care who says and who does what an if the supporters want success then maybe he is the type of person s f c needs but i honestly feel that the days of what the supporters think in football does not matter to the clubs mickey01
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2:17pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard. As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version. Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement. I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court. I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people. I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them. Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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2:25pm Sun 27 Jan 13

beiroot says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.
where are the trophies
Yours went on e-Bay years ago.
2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul
2002 was a poor Chamionship Year and we all know how the 2008 Cup was "bought". When Lance Armstrong cheated he had his Trophies removed.
I think most trophies are bought nowadays.Don't spose Man City bought anyone when they won the Prem or Chelsea when they won ther cup finals.Get over it ,our name is on the cup twice and might have been 3 times if Chelsea hadn't have cheated and bought Drogma and paid him mega money.So what do you suggest ?Remove all the trophies from all those that have "bought them" and just leave the winners of the '76 Cup Final.(and you wouldn't have won that if you never offered more wages to a player than his local club could)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.[/p][/quote]where are the trophies[/p][/quote]Yours went on e-Bay years ago.[/p][/quote]2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul[/p][/quote]2002 was a poor Chamionship Year and we all know how the 2008 Cup was "bought". When Lance Armstrong cheated he had his Trophies removed.[/p][/quote]I think most trophies are bought nowadays.Don't spose Man City bought anyone when they won the Prem or Chelsea when they won ther cup finals.Get over it ,our name is on the cup twice and might have been 3 times if Chelsea hadn't have cheated and bought Drogma and paid him mega money.So what do you suggest ?Remove all the trophies from all those that have "bought them" and just leave the winners of the '76 Cup Final.(and you wouldn't have won that if you never offered more wages to a player than his local club could) beiroot
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2:27pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Velleity says...

three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent


141/southamptondomin


ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.
You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.
I think that's about the funniest thing you've ever posted.

I'm choking on the irony.
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ?[/p][/quote]I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.[/p][/quote]You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.[/p][/quote]I think that's about the funniest thing you've ever posted. I'm choking on the irony. Velleity
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2:37pm Sun 27 Jan 13

dadofmy3sons says...

When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason! dadofmy3sons
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2:42pm Sun 27 Jan 13

three halves says...

Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent



141/southamptondomin



ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.
You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.
I think that's about the funniest thing you've ever posted.

I'm choking on the irony.
Good.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ?[/p][/quote]I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.[/p][/quote]You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.[/p][/quote]I think that's about the funniest thing you've ever posted. I'm choking on the irony.[/p][/quote]Good. three halves
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2:47pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

Tiss is a legend! His laid back character mirrored the city's own character. We all love him, but this whole vendetta with NC is not good for the club or his own image. OSPers was right, stick em in a room & let them sort it out.

The club is on a good footing which he should be happy about, even though his consortium's bid was unsuccessful.

Nicola and other chairman should welcome previous players back and not do what Ken Bates did and ban the likes of Ron Chopper Harris from the ground. I hope NC extends an
invitation to the likes of Franny and Tiss, big parts of our recent history!
Tiss is a legend! His laid back character mirrored the city's own character. We all love him, but this whole vendetta with NC is not good for the club or his own image. OSPers was right, stick em in a room & let them sort it out. The club is on a good footing which he should be happy about, even though his consortium's bid was unsuccessful. Nicola and other chairman should welcome previous players back and not do what Ken Bates did and ban the likes of Ron Chopper Harris from the ground. I hope NC extends an invitation to the likes of Franny and Tiss, big parts of our recent history! Bring back Branfoot
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2:53pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Saintsayer II says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.
Although i have not been able to comment for a month or so I have been following all that has happened
During that time I was surprise at your lack of comments on the NA dissmissal but I thank you for this post which appears to be extremely well thought out

I am still angry about the change but for reasons that go beyond football. having watched the interview i find myself wanting answers to two more questions

When he said it was perfect timing for the players was he hinting that some unrest in the dressing room was about to service?

When he basically said no one individual is bigger than the club was he saying that our love of Adkins was getting to be to important ?

Whatever happens I will never forget the man who gave us such afantastic 2 and a bit years
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard. As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version. Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement. I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court. I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people. I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them. Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.[/p][/quote]Although i have not been able to comment for a month or so I have been following all that has happened During that time I was surprise at your lack of comments on the NA dissmissal but I thank you for this post which appears to be extremely well thought out I am still angry about the change but for reasons that go beyond football. having watched the interview i find myself wanting answers to two more questions When he said it was perfect timing for the players was he hinting that some unrest in the dressing room was about to service? When he basically said no one individual is bigger than the club was he saying that our love of Adkins was getting to be to important ? Whatever happens I will never forget the man who gave us such afantastic 2 and a bit years Saintsayer II
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2:55pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.
On the Benali case, he is the only one who sued the club and he is the only one who is banned to our knowledge.

SFC seem to be arguing that they had enough plus change in the deposit and should get some of it back. Sounds like it possible they don't agree with the cost of repairs and that is the nature of the dispute rather than flat our denial?

This would fit with it being held in the Technology and Construction Court which is there for building disputes and other disputes of a more technical and complicated matter.

I don't think it is as simple as people make out.

Anyway it was listed for October. Nothing notable seems to have come out of it.

Like you said. a judge will have final say.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard. As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version. Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement. I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court. I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people. I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them. Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.[/p][/quote]On the Benali case, he is the only one who sued the club and he is the only one who is banned to our knowledge. SFC seem to be arguing that they had enough plus change in the deposit and should get some of it back. Sounds like it possible they don't agree with the cost of repairs and that is the nature of the dispute rather than flat our denial? This would fit with it being held in the Technology and Construction Court which is there for building disputes and other disputes of a more technical and complicated matter. I don't think it is as simple as people make out. Anyway it was listed for October. Nothing notable seems to have come out of it. Like you said. a judge will have final say. Thornhill Saint
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2:56pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Harold K Steptoe says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.
Everything was put back exactly as it was and it was only one room that was altered. FB made a big fuss about a small issue.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard. As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version. Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement. I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court. I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people. I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them. Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.[/p][/quote]Everything was put back exactly as it was and it was only one room that was altered. FB made a big fuss about a small issue. Harold K Steptoe
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3:01pm Sun 27 Jan 13

saintkenny says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.
where are the trophies
Yours went on e-Bay years ago.
2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul
yes you bought them when did you last achieve anything honestly .nothing to brag about .not just to saints fans thw whole football league and premier league
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.[/p][/quote]where are the trophies[/p][/quote]Yours went on e-Bay years ago.[/p][/quote]2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul[/p][/quote]yes you bought them when did you last achieve anything honestly .nothing to brag about .not just to saints fans thw whole football league and premier league saintkenny
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3:02pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent



141/southamptondomin



ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.
You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.
I think that's about the funniest thing you've ever posted.

I'm choking on the irony.
You are definitely not from Bassett are you Vell? Seems I have a problem with my identity!?
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ?[/p][/quote]I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.[/p][/quote]You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.[/p][/quote]I think that's about the funniest thing you've ever posted. I'm choking on the irony.[/p][/quote]You are definitely not from Bassett are you Vell? Seems I have a problem with my identity!? OSPREYSAINT
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3:03pm Sun 27 Jan 13

leosaint says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.
where are the trophies
Yours went on e-Bay years ago.
2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul
And all the former pompey players and staff now out of work are paying for them!!
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.[/p][/quote]where are the trophies[/p][/quote]Yours went on e-Bay years ago.[/p][/quote]2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul[/p][/quote]And all the former pompey players and staff now out of work are paying for them!! leosaint
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3:08pm Sun 27 Jan 13

JohnItaly says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.
Although i have not been able to comment for a month or so I have been following all that has happened
During that time I was surprise at your lack of comments on the NA dissmissal but I thank you for this post which appears to be extremely well thought out

I am still angry about the change but for reasons that go beyond football. having watched the interview i find myself wanting answers to two more questions

When he said it was perfect timing for the players was he hinting that some unrest in the dressing room was about to service?

When he basically said no one individual is bigger than the club was he saying that our love of Adkins was getting to be to important ?

Whatever happens I will never forget the man who gave us such afantastic 2 and a bit years
A couple of posts have now suggested NA was losing / had lost the dressing room. Obviously we will never know but all season fans, via the DE, have consistently crticised NA's tacics and substitutions. I find it difficult to imagine some players themselves have not questioned some of NA's tactics and subtitutions. If this is indeed the case then the right decision was made to replace NA.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard. As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version. Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement. I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court. I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people. I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them. Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.[/p][/quote]Although i have not been able to comment for a month or so I have been following all that has happened During that time I was surprise at your lack of comments on the NA dissmissal but I thank you for this post which appears to be extremely well thought out I am still angry about the change but for reasons that go beyond football. having watched the interview i find myself wanting answers to two more questions When he said it was perfect timing for the players was he hinting that some unrest in the dressing room was about to service? When he basically said no one individual is bigger than the club was he saying that our love of Adkins was getting to be to important ? Whatever happens I will never forget the man who gave us such afantastic 2 and a bit years[/p][/quote]A couple of posts have now suggested NA was losing / had lost the dressing room. Obviously we will never know but all season fans, via the DE, have consistently crticised NA's tacics and substitutions. I find it difficult to imagine some players themselves have not questioned some of NA's tactics and subtitutions. If this is indeed the case then the right decision was made to replace NA. JohnItaly
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3:09pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Velleity says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent




141/southamptondomin




ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.
You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.
I think that's about the funniest thing you've ever posted.

I'm choking on the irony.
You are definitely not from Bassett are you Vell? Seems I have a problem with my identity!?
Not that posh.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ?[/p][/quote]I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.[/p][/quote]You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.[/p][/quote]I think that's about the funniest thing you've ever posted. I'm choking on the irony.[/p][/quote]You are definitely not from Bassett are you Vell? Seems I have a problem with my identity!?[/p][/quote]Not that posh. Velleity
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3:11pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Velleity wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent





141/southamptondomin





ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.
You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.
I think that's about the funniest thing you've ever posted.

I'm choking on the irony.
You are definitely not from Bassett are you Vell? Seems I have a problem with my identity!?
Not that posh.
lol Swaythling then! Leeds 1 up v Spuds at ht
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ?[/p][/quote]I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.[/p][/quote]You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.[/p][/quote]I think that's about the funniest thing you've ever posted. I'm choking on the irony.[/p][/quote]You are definitely not from Bassett are you Vell? Seems I have a problem with my identity!?[/p][/quote]Not that posh.[/p][/quote]lol Swaythling then! Leeds 1 up v Spuds at ht OSPREYSAINT
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3:15pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Alex297 says...

Please lets not forget sad days in 2009 when we nearly didnt have a club! NC saved the club ,MLT should make peace with NC and we can all move on and take this massive club to the next level !
Please lets not forget sad days in 2009 when we nearly didnt have a club! NC saved the club ,MLT should make peace with NC and we can all move on and take this massive club to the next level ! Alex297
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3:19pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

beiroot wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.
where are the trophies
Yours went on e-Bay years ago.
2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul
2002 was a poor Chamionship Year and we all know how the 2008 Cup was "bought". When Lance Armstrong cheated he had his Trophies removed.
I think most trophies are bought nowadays.Don't spose Man City bought anyone when they won the Prem or Chelsea when they won ther cup finals.Get over it ,our name is on the cup twice and might have been 3 times if Chelsea hadn't have cheated and bought Drogma and paid him mega money.So what do you suggest ?Remove all the trophies from all those that have "bought them" and just leave the winners of the '76 Cup Final.(and you wouldn't have won that if you never offered more wages to a player than his local club could)
Can't disagree with your logic, we haven't won any real trophies because up until now, we couldn't afford to fund them, you have to admit the tables have turned somewhat now, that is no guarantee of winning anything if you draw a top Club in the First Round chances are you will get knocked out, it takes a bit of luck, a bit of endeavour but money can create a big advantage as long as it is sustainable, and not beyond your means. Do you begrudge our one little triumph? You have to admit it was remarkable, and as Bobby Stokes proved, not all skates are bad.
[quote][p][bold]beiroot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.[/p][/quote]where are the trophies[/p][/quote]Yours went on e-Bay years ago.[/p][/quote]2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul[/p][/quote]2002 was a poor Chamionship Year and we all know how the 2008 Cup was "bought". When Lance Armstrong cheated he had his Trophies removed.[/p][/quote]I think most trophies are bought nowadays.Don't spose Man City bought anyone when they won the Prem or Chelsea when they won ther cup finals.Get over it ,our name is on the cup twice and might have been 3 times if Chelsea hadn't have cheated and bought Drogma and paid him mega money.So what do you suggest ?Remove all the trophies from all those that have "bought them" and just leave the winners of the '76 Cup Final.(and you wouldn't have won that if you never offered more wages to a player than his local club could)[/p][/quote]Can't disagree with your logic, we haven't won any real trophies because up until now, we couldn't afford to fund them, you have to admit the tables have turned somewhat now, that is no guarantee of winning anything if you draw a top Club in the First Round chances are you will get knocked out, it takes a bit of luck, a bit of endeavour but money can create a big advantage as long as it is sustainable, and not beyond your means. Do you begrudge our one little triumph? You have to admit it was remarkable, and as Bobby Stokes proved, not all skates are bad. OSPREYSAINT
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3:20pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Leeds 2 up. Varney & McCormack.
Leeds 2 up. Varney & McCormack. OSPREYSAINT
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3:21pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Alex297 says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Tiss is a legend! His laid back character mirrored the city's own character. We all love him, but this whole vendetta with NC is not good for the club or his own image. OSPers was right, stick em in a room & let them sort it out.

The club is on a good footing which he should be happy about, even though his consortium's bid was unsuccessful.

Nicola and other chairman should welcome previous players back and not do what Ken Bates did and ban the likes of Ron Chopper Harris from the ground. I hope NC extends an
invitation to the likes of Franny and Tiss, big parts of our recent history!
Well said ! Agree %100.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: Tiss is a legend! His laid back character mirrored the city's own character. We all love him, but this whole vendetta with NC is not good for the club or his own image. OSPers was right, stick em in a room & let them sort it out. The club is on a good footing which he should be happy about, even though his consortium's bid was unsuccessful. Nicola and other chairman should welcome previous players back and not do what Ken Bates did and ban the likes of Ron Chopper Harris from the ground. I hope NC extends an invitation to the likes of Franny and Tiss, big parts of our recent history![/p][/quote]Well said ! Agree %100. Alex297
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3:27pm Sun 27 Jan 13

franiow says...

MLT should have asked to meet Nicola in a clear the air meeting by a private approach rather than twitter. I suppose he's hurt by the fact that Cortese met him, but doesn't remember him. He has constantly had digs at Nicola...people don't respond well to that whether you are wrong or right. As he cares about SFC, I suggest he tries to get a meeting. Why does he want witnesses...Nicola isn't actually likely to turn violent.
MLT should have asked to meet Nicola in a clear the air meeting by a private approach rather than twitter. I suppose he's hurt by the fact that Cortese met him, but doesn't remember him. He has constantly had digs at Nicola...people don't respond well to that whether you are wrong or right. As he cares about SFC, I suggest he tries to get a meeting. Why does he want witnesses...Nicola isn't actually likely to turn violent. franiow
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3:28pm Sun 27 Jan 13

likewatchingbrazil says...

makes you laugh the poopey numties still come on here dispite the embarresment of yesterdays home loss to Hartlepool, their club is dead, the fans have all gone, but they still turn up on Southampton's sites to be mocked,laughed at and beaten on all subjects, such a shame really but i do actually enjoy it and hope they still come on here after the inevitable closure of the eye sore that is frattin park
onwards and upwards for us though
coyr
makes you laugh the poopey numties still come on here dispite the embarresment of yesterdays home loss to Hartlepool, their club is dead, the fans have all gone, but they still turn up on Southampton's sites to be mocked,laughed at and beaten on all subjects, such a shame really but i do actually enjoy it and hope they still come on here after the inevitable closure of the eye sore that is frattin park onwards and upwards for us though coyr likewatchingbrazil
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3:29pm Sun 27 Jan 13

saintkenny says...

saintkenny wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.
where are the trophies
Yours went on e-Bay years ago.
2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul
yes you bought them when did you last achieve anything honestly .nothing to brag about .not just to saints fans thw whole football league and premier league
in your own words you have not answered the question
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.[/p][/quote]where are the trophies[/p][/quote]Yours went on e-Bay years ago.[/p][/quote]2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul[/p][/quote]yes you bought them when did you last achieve anything honestly .nothing to brag about .not just to saints fans thw whole football league and premier league[/p][/quote]in your own words you have not answered the question saintkenny
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3:32pm Sun 27 Jan 13

sking19326 says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
Money, i bet you wish your club had that. Ruthlessness, your club was certainly ruthless with other peoples money. Disloyalty, yes to your own fans and how your money was spent.

Oh look, it all comes down to money!!!

Now go off and patronise a non-league club (only for a little while longer though!!!!).

Fish !!!!!!!!!

COYR
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]Money, i bet you wish your club had that. Ruthlessness, your club was certainly ruthless with other peoples money. Disloyalty, yes to your own fans and how your money was spent. Oh look, it all comes down to money!!! Now go off and patronise a non-league club (only for a little while longer though!!!!). Fish !!!!!!!!! COYR sking19326
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3:46pm Sun 27 Jan 13

MGRA says...

I think we all know that NC would be too scared for a face-to-face meeting with MTL. He wants witnesses for reasons to obvious to put into print.
I think we all know that NC would be too scared for a face-to-face meeting with MTL. He wants witnesses for reasons to obvious to put into print. MGRA
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3:52pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

MGRA wrote:
I think we all know that NC would be too scared for a face-to-face meeting with MTL. He wants witnesses for reasons to obvious to put into print.
By all accounts Cortese may ruthless but he is a man of his word. Why would MLT want or need witnesses?

I don't think he will accept the invite, but I don't think it is because he is scared. He does not do business with those that mouth off in public. He has made this clear before.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: I think we all know that NC would be too scared for a face-to-face meeting with MTL. He wants witnesses for reasons to obvious to put into print.[/p][/quote]By all accounts Cortese may ruthless but he is a man of his word. Why would MLT want or need witnesses? I don't think he will accept the invite, but I don't think it is because he is scared. He does not do business with those that mouth off in public. He has made this clear before. Thornhill Saint
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3:55pm Sun 27 Jan 13

ghk230473 says...

IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd.
Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland.
If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky!
Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?
IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd. Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland. If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky! Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think? ghk230473
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3:58pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

MGRA wrote:
I think we all know that NC would be too scared for a face-to-face meeting with MTL. He wants witnesses for reasons to obvious to put into print.
You have a strange and cynical view of humanity, is it based on your own standards?
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: I think we all know that NC would be too scared for a face-to-face meeting with MTL. He wants witnesses for reasons to obvious to put into print.[/p][/quote]You have a strange and cynical view of humanity, is it based on your own standards? OSPREYSAINT
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4:05pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd.
Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland.
If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky!
Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?
We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd. Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland. If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky! Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?[/p][/quote]We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final. OSPREYSAINT
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4:05pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Strewth Oldham 1 up against Scouse.
Strewth Oldham 1 up against Scouse. OSPREYSAINT
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4:06pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Alty Saint says...

Apparentley the two have never met or spoken to each other and Cortese has made no comments about Le Tiss so I think all this clear the air stuff is just in Le Tiss's head.
Apparentley the two have never met or spoken to each other and Cortese has made no comments about Le Tiss so I think all this clear the air stuff is just in Le Tiss's head. Alty Saint
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4:06pm Sun 27 Jan 13

MGRA says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
I think we all know that NC would be too scared for a face-to-face meeting with MTL. He wants witnesses for reasons to obvious to put into print.
You have a strange and cynical view of humanity, is it based on your own standards?
Its not my view of humanity.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: I think we all know that NC would be too scared for a face-to-face meeting with MTL. He wants witnesses for reasons to obvious to put into print.[/p][/quote]You have a strange and cynical view of humanity, is it based on your own standards?[/p][/quote]Its not my view of humanity. MGRA
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4:07pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

ghk230473 wrote:
IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd.
Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland.
If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky!
Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?
Jason Dodd, Rhaidi Jaidi, Terry Paine, Mic Channon seem to be able to work with the Chairman.

More importantly, the current players are able to work with them and some have given good comments including some pretty good ones about Cortese. Lallana and Luke Shaw have demonstrated this without question by putting pen to paper.

As for most ex-players, I don't think you have the tight to speak for them as their views are not known.

It would be good if this clique of ex Saints (Benali, Le Tissier, Mcmenemy, now Jim Steele) goaded on by the Echo could reconcile themselves with Cortese and the club. It might have started and eventually end with Benali. (Hopefully positively)

Things are happening, but it might never get resolved. I guess we will have to wait and see what happens.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd. Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland. If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky! Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?[/p][/quote]Jason Dodd, Rhaidi Jaidi, Terry Paine, Mic Channon seem to be able to work with the Chairman. More importantly, the current players are able to work with them and some have given good comments including some pretty good ones about Cortese. Lallana and Luke Shaw have demonstrated this without question by putting pen to paper. As for most ex-players, I don't think you have the tight to speak for them as their views are not known. It would be good if this clique of ex Saints (Benali, Le Tissier, Mcmenemy, now Jim Steele) goaded on by the Echo could reconcile themselves with Cortese and the club. It might have started and eventually end with Benali. (Hopefully positively) Things are happening, but it might never get resolved. I guess we will have to wait and see what happens. Thornhill Saint
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4:09pm Sun 27 Jan 13

worried of n e hampshire says...

Red n White wrote:
roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?
I don't have much respect for Le Tissier as a person since he finished his football career. He has taken every opportunity to knock Cortese publicly, on Twitter, TV and even at charity events.
I admire Cortese for his vision for the club. You may have been happy to bounce between the Championship and Premiership, but myself I want to see Saints rise up the table, and it's Cortese's vision to get us into Europe so I respect and like him.
Don't talk like you represent every Saints fan, or are you hoping for an interview from the Echo?
your rhght red n white.
le tiss was a great player but I wish he would wind his neck in
[quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: 100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days. 100% like And respect him. 100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion. 0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants). Now why would that be?[/p][/quote]I don't have much respect for Le Tissier as a person since he finished his football career. He has taken every opportunity to knock Cortese publicly, on Twitter, TV and even at charity events. I admire Cortese for his vision for the club. You may have been happy to bounce between the Championship and Premiership, but myself I want to see Saints rise up the table, and it's Cortese's vision to get us into Europe so I respect and like him. Don't talk like you represent every Saints fan, or are you hoping for an interview from the Echo?[/p][/quote]your rhght red n white. le tiss was a great player but I wish he would wind his neck in worried of n e hampshire
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4:14pm Sun 27 Jan 13

J7junctionseven says...

I agree with the earlier poster. MLT should not go blabbing to the media if indeed he did?? He should do it privately if Cortese will grant him an audience. It would be nice to think he could get on with Cortese and also get back on board with the club and be given some sort of role as an ambassador or similar role. It would be a fitting tribute to him for his contributions as a player and I bet he'd love to be at the club during the wonderful journey we may all be on in the near future if Cortese's master plan comes into fruition.
COYR FOADP......Well done Hartlepool by the way....Wah ha ha h ha
I agree with the earlier poster. MLT should not go blabbing to the media if indeed he did?? He should do it privately if Cortese will grant him an audience. It would be nice to think he could get on with Cortese and also get back on board with the club and be given some sort of role as an ambassador or similar role. It would be a fitting tribute to him for his contributions as a player and I bet he'd love to be at the club during the wonderful journey we may all be on in the near future if Cortese's master plan comes into fruition. COYR FOADP......Well done Hartlepool by the way....Wah ha ha h ha J7junctionseven
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4:16pm Sun 27 Jan 13

milton road says...

Lol NC I do not think is scared of anyone lol. The only reason MLT wants witnesses is to blogg it all over twitter, where NC keeps such things private.
Wasn't MLT's backers called Portpin or something like that? you know the front man who wouldn't discuss the backers. Who held up Markus's take over for weeks, nearly saw the club liquidated.
Maybe what NC was saying that the club needed to evolve to the next level and Nigel had taken us as far as he could.
Few of us wanted NA to go but he has and we need to move on, nothing will change that.
I certainly would not want NC to go, if that happened the owners would go with him, what then?
Markus only bought the club as long as
NC ran it.
I for one am glad and grateful what the owners and NC have done for us and we have a chairman that really wants the club to succeed.
Lol NC I do not think is scared of anyone lol. The only reason MLT wants witnesses is to blogg it all over twitter, where NC keeps such things private. Wasn't MLT's backers called Portpin or something like that? you know the front man who wouldn't discuss the backers. Who held up Markus's take over for weeks, nearly saw the club liquidated. Maybe what NC was saying that the club needed to evolve to the next level and Nigel had taken us as far as he could. Few of us wanted NA to go but he has and we need to move on, nothing will change that. I certainly would not want NC to go, if that happened the owners would go with him, what then? Markus only bought the club as long as NC ran it. I for one am glad and grateful what the owners and NC have done for us and we have a chairman that really wants the club to succeed. milton road
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4:18pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Suarez restores normality 1 1
Suarez restores normality 1 1 OSPREYSAINT
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4:23pm Sun 27 Jan 13

J7junctionseven says...

milton road wrote:
Lol NC I do not think is scared of anyone lol. The only reason MLT wants witnesses is to blogg it all over twitter, where NC keeps such things private.
Wasn't MLT's backers called Portpin or something like that? you know the front man who wouldn't discuss the backers. Who held up Markus's take over for weeks, nearly saw the club liquidated.
Maybe what NC was saying that the club needed to evolve to the next level and Nigel had taken us as far as he could.
Few of us wanted NA to go but he has and we need to move on, nothing will change that.
I certainly would not want NC to go, if that happened the owners would go with him, what then?
Markus only bought the club as long as
NC ran it.
I for one am glad and grateful what the owners and NC have done for us and we have a chairman that really wants the club to succeed.
Spot on
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Lol NC I do not think is scared of anyone lol. The only reason MLT wants witnesses is to blogg it all over twitter, where NC keeps such things private. Wasn't MLT's backers called Portpin or something like that? you know the front man who wouldn't discuss the backers. Who held up Markus's take over for weeks, nearly saw the club liquidated. Maybe what NC was saying that the club needed to evolve to the next level and Nigel had taken us as far as he could. Few of us wanted NA to go but he has and we need to move on, nothing will change that. I certainly would not want NC to go, if that happened the owners would go with him, what then? Markus only bought the club as long as NC ran it. I for one am glad and grateful what the owners and NC have done for us and we have a chairman that really wants the club to succeed.[/p][/quote]Spot on J7junctionseven
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4:28pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Confucious says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.
If the club is successful Cortese will be worshipped and praised by many thousands under the full media glare. If it's a failure he'll be damned and hated by many thousands under the full media glare. As executive positions go, he's pretty accountable. A great win or a bad loss on Wednesday will demonstrate that well enough.

Matt (gawd bless him!) is well paid to make off-the-cuff and entertainingly contentious statements with virtually no accountability at all.

Nonetheless, it would be good all round if the two of them could make a public show of mutual respect - and then we can move on (and the media can move on to stir up trouble somewhere else).

Cortese obviously is what he is (warts and all) and he isn't going to change much. So do we therefore want him changed for another chairman?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard. As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version. Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement. I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court. I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people. I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them. Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.[/p][/quote]If the club is successful Cortese will be worshipped and praised by many thousands under the full media glare. If it's a failure he'll be damned and hated by many thousands under the full media glare. As executive positions go, he's pretty accountable. A great win or a bad loss on Wednesday will demonstrate that well enough. Matt (gawd bless him!) is well paid to make off-the-cuff and entertainingly contentious statements with virtually no accountability at all. Nonetheless, it would be good all round if the two of them could make a public show of mutual respect - and then we can move on (and the media can move on to stir up trouble somewhere else). Cortese obviously is what he is (warts and all) and he isn't going to change much. So do we therefore want him changed for another chairman? Confucious
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4:28pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
I agree with the earlier poster. MLT should not go blabbing to the media if indeed he did?? He should do it privately if Cortese will grant him an audience. It would be nice to think he could get on with Cortese and also get back on board with the club and be given some sort of role as an ambassador or similar role. It would be a fitting tribute to him for his contributions as a player and I bet he'd love to be at the club during the wonderful journey we may all be on in the near future if Cortese's master plan comes into fruition.
COYR FOADP......Well done Hartlepool by the way....Wah ha ha h ha
A lot seems to have been speculated about MLTs involvement with the Pinnacle bid, at the time Matt would have been getting desperate for any solution in the saving of the Club he clearly loves, if that was the only straw he was going to clutch at it, he would have had no knowledge about the Liebherr bid, had he known, he would probably have jumped at it with both feet. I could be totally wrong, because I tend not to look for the worst in people, and my credibility, thanks to getting it wrong over Nigels departure, has taken quite a knock!
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: I agree with the earlier poster. MLT should not go blabbing to the media if indeed he did?? He should do it privately if Cortese will grant him an audience. It would be nice to think he could get on with Cortese and also get back on board with the club and be given some sort of role as an ambassador or similar role. It would be a fitting tribute to him for his contributions as a player and I bet he'd love to be at the club during the wonderful journey we may all be on in the near future if Cortese's master plan comes into fruition. COYR FOADP......Well done Hartlepool by the way....Wah ha ha h ha[/p][/quote]A lot seems to have been speculated about MLTs involvement with the Pinnacle bid, at the time Matt would have been getting desperate for any solution in the saving of the Club he clearly loves, if that was the only straw he was going to clutch at it, he would have had no knowledge about the Liebherr bid, had he known, he would probably have jumped at it with both feet. I could be totally wrong, because I tend not to look for the worst in people, and my credibility, thanks to getting it wrong over Nigels departure, has taken quite a knock! OSPREYSAINT
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4:30pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Confucious says...

Harold K Steptoe wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.
Everything was put back exactly as it was and it was only one room that was altered. FB made a big fuss about a small issue.
And anyway, I'd love someone to come round to my house and swap the carpets for a nice wooden floor and put some new curtains up for nothing.
[quote][p][bold]Harold K Steptoe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard. As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version. Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement. I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court. I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people. I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them. Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.[/p][/quote]Everything was put back exactly as it was and it was only one room that was altered. FB made a big fuss about a small issue.[/p][/quote]And anyway, I'd love someone to come round to my house and swap the carpets for a nice wooden floor and put some new curtains up for nothing. Confucious
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4:32pm Sun 27 Jan 13

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd.
Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland.
If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky!
Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?
We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final.
I think a good chairman is never seen and never heard!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd. Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland. If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky! Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?[/p][/quote]We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final.[/p][/quote]I think a good chairman is never seen and never heard! ghk230473
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4:36pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd.
Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland.
If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky!
Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?
We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final.
I think a good chairman is never seen and never heard!
... I suspect ours would prefer it that way, but his hand is being forced a little, pressure from all directions.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd. Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland. If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky! Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?[/p][/quote]We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final.[/p][/quote]I think a good chairman is never seen and never heard![/p][/quote]... I suspect ours would prefer it that way, but his hand is being forced a little, pressure from all directions. OSPREYSAINT
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4:39pm Sun 27 Jan 13

franiow says...

People talk about loyalty or rather NC's lack of it. His duty is to the club as CEO and he has made a decision he believes is right. Remember Adkins was not a permanent employee; he signed a contract which no doubt had his rights if dismissed clearly laid out. His contract was paid up...doubt any of us would get that...a week or months notice more like.
Danny Seaborne said recently how great Cortese was to him when he wasinjured. Puncheon managed to talk to Nicola and sort things out...he said NC was an honourable man, Wotte was sacked but given a pay off he wasn't entitled to as his contract was finished. All of this suggests that Nicola can make hard decisions if he has to, but is not a monster.
People talk about loyalty or rather NC's lack of it. His duty is to the club as CEO and he has made a decision he believes is right. Remember Adkins was not a permanent employee; he signed a contract which no doubt had his rights if dismissed clearly laid out. His contract was paid up...doubt any of us would get that...a week or months notice more like. Danny Seaborne said recently how great Cortese was to him when he wasinjured. Puncheon managed to talk to Nicola and sort things out...he said NC was an honourable man, Wotte was sacked but given a pay off he wasn't entitled to as his contract was finished. All of this suggests that Nicola can make hard decisions if he has to, but is not a monster. franiow
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4:44pm Sun 27 Jan 13

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd.
Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland.
If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky!
Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?
We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final.
I think a good chairman is never seen and never heard!
... I suspect ours would prefer it that way, but his hand is being forced a little, pressure from all directions.
In an ideal world the pair would work together in complete harmony, le tiss could offer advice. Watching him on sky he's not a loud mouth gob sh1te like the rest!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd. Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland. If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky! Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?[/p][/quote]We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final.[/p][/quote]I think a good chairman is never seen and never heard![/p][/quote]... I suspect ours would prefer it that way, but his hand is being forced a little, pressure from all directions.[/p][/quote]In an ideal world the pair would work together in complete harmony, le tiss could offer advice. Watching him on sky he's not a loud mouth gob sh1te like the rest! ghk230473
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4:51pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Oldham 2 Liverpool 1 ht
Oldham 2 Liverpool 1 ht OSPREYSAINT
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4:58pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Jesus_02 says...

Him, Cortese in a ring, some Season ticket holder as witnesses. I sense an oppertunity for a charity event
Him, Cortese in a ring, some Season ticket holder as witnesses. I sense an oppertunity for a charity event Jesus_02
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4:59pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Dave Juson says...

It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive. Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists. Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth. Dave Juson
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4:59pm Sun 27 Jan 13

arm chair fan says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd.
Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland.
If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky!
Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?
We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final.
I think a good chairman is never seen and never heard!
agreed, how often do we see or hear from NC. But many expect him to come out and explain his every move.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd. Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland. If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky! Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?[/p][/quote]We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final.[/p][/quote]I think a good chairman is never seen and never heard![/p][/quote]agreed, how often do we see or hear from NC. But many expect him to come out and explain his every move. arm chair fan
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5:02pm Sun 27 Jan 13

slugger says...

“Yes, of course, I felt sorry for Nigel. I’ve been in his position, losing my job after four years at Espanyol in November.

“Sometimes not only does a project end but so does a club’s philosophy. The goals and targets change.

“A coach can suit one project — but not another.”


Lifted from MP's interview with the Sun on Sunday ......... To me this says everything !
“Yes, of course, I felt sorry for Nigel. I’ve been in his position, losing my job after four years at Espanyol in November. “Sometimes not only does a project end but so does a club’s philosophy. The goals and targets change. “A coach can suit one project — but not another.” Lifted from MP's interview with the Sun on Sunday ......... To me this says everything ! slugger
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5:03pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.
Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive. Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists. Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.[/p][/quote]Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program? Thornhill Saint
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5:08pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

3 1 Oldham har de har de har
3 1 Oldham har de har de har OSPREYSAINT
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5:09pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

slugger wrote:
“Yes, of course, I felt sorry for Nigel. I’ve been in his position, losing my job after four years at Espanyol in November.

“Sometimes not only does a project end but so does a club’s philosophy. The goals and targets change.

“A coach can suit one project — but not another.”


Lifted from MP's interview with the Sun on Sunday ......... To me this says everything !
He is on a 2 & half year project if the Sun article is to be believed.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: “Yes, of course, I felt sorry for Nigel. I’ve been in his position, losing my job after four years at Espanyol in November. “Sometimes not only does a project end but so does a club’s philosophy. The goals and targets change. “A coach can suit one project — but not another.” Lifted from MP's interview with the Sun on Sunday ......... To me this says everything ![/p][/quote]He is on a 2 & half year project if the Sun article is to be believed. OSPREYSAINT
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5:10pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.
Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?
"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive. Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists. Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.[/p][/quote]Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?[/p][/quote]"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave. Bring back Branfoot
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5:11pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd.
Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland.
If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky!
Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?
We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final.
I think a good chairman is never seen and never heard!
... I suspect ours would prefer it that way, but his hand is being forced a little, pressure from all directions.
In an ideal world the pair would work together in complete harmony, le tiss could offer advice. Watching him on sky he's not a loud mouth gob sh1te like the rest!
He does gob off, just not verbally, but he is still a legend and a giant among saints. No giants are perfect.

Are you paying your £3.00 to support his latest event.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd. Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland. If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky! Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?[/p][/quote]We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final.[/p][/quote]I think a good chairman is never seen and never heard![/p][/quote]... I suspect ours would prefer it that way, but his hand is being forced a little, pressure from all directions.[/p][/quote]In an ideal world the pair would work together in complete harmony, le tiss could offer advice. Watching him on sky he's not a loud mouth gob sh1te like the rest![/p][/quote]He does gob off, just not verbally, but he is still a legend and a giant among saints. No giants are perfect. Are you paying your £3.00 to support his latest event. Thornhill Saint
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5:14pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.
Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?
"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.
I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive. Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists. Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.[/p][/quote]Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?[/p][/quote]"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.[/p][/quote]I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history. Thornhill Saint
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5:18pm Sun 27 Jan 13

ShakeyWiffles says...

Going to the DE about this isn't exactly going to set the ball rolling!
Going to the DE about this isn't exactly going to set the ball rolling! ShakeyWiffles
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5:19pm Sun 27 Jan 13

saintshorse101 says...

what we would all like as saints fans is for mlt and nc to sit down and work through their differences. not sure if that will happen or not but wouldnt it be great to have mlt on board, mlt is a world renowned player and now pundit who has lots of contacts in the game, it cant hurt to get him working as an ambassador for the club.
i think where nc lets himself down is his public persona. he may well be a very nice man privatley, and just a ruthless business man. mlt dosent help by saying he has an ego problem, if mlt is right and he has met nc but only once how can he tell what nc is like?
what we must remember about nc is that he managed the takeover of a club at the bottom of league 1 with -10 pts and 3 years later we have won a trophy and 2 promotions back to the prem. other teams havent been so lucky, oldham used to play top flight football as did leeds, leicester, forest etc etc etc. lots of those clubs would love to have a nc running them, as would poopey, we got lucky. i am not sayin nc hasnt got faults and hasnt made mistakes, but when you compare our club to others i wouldnt want him gone.
pool are 3-1 down to oldham, is that the `big` club that Coutinho wanted to go to?
what we would all like as saints fans is for mlt and nc to sit down and work through their differences. not sure if that will happen or not but wouldnt it be great to have mlt on board, mlt is a world renowned player and now pundit who has lots of contacts in the game, it cant hurt to get him working as an ambassador for the club. i think where nc lets himself down is his public persona. he may well be a very nice man privatley, and just a ruthless business man. mlt dosent help by saying he has an ego problem, if mlt is right and he has met nc but only once how can he tell what nc is like? what we must remember about nc is that he managed the takeover of a club at the bottom of league 1 with -10 pts and 3 years later we have won a trophy and 2 promotions back to the prem. other teams havent been so lucky, oldham used to play top flight football as did leeds, leicester, forest etc etc etc. lots of those clubs would love to have a nc running them, as would poopey, we got lucky. i am not sayin nc hasnt got faults and hasnt made mistakes, but when you compare our club to others i wouldnt want him gone. pool are 3-1 down to oldham, is that the `big` club that Coutinho wanted to go to? saintshorse101
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5:19pm Sun 27 Jan 13

notaclue says...

Its Courtes's ball and he says you can't pay so you can't play, sorry Matt.
Its Courtes's ball and he says you can't pay so you can't play, sorry Matt. notaclue
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5:22pm Sun 27 Jan 13

slugger says...

notaclue wrote:
Its Courtes's ball and he says you can't pay so you can't play, sorry Matt.
In a nutshell ...... lol
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: Its Courtes's ball and he says you can't pay so you can't play, sorry Matt.[/p][/quote]In a nutshell ...... lol slugger
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5:29pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.
Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?
"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.
I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.
Anyway Dave..... ignore the gimp.

What I would really like to know, is did you have a hand in airbrushing Adkins out of Saints History??

If so who asked you to do it??
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive. Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists. Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.[/p][/quote]Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?[/p][/quote]"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.[/p][/quote]I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.[/p][/quote]Anyway Dave..... ignore the gimp. What I would really like to know, is did you have a hand in airbrushing Adkins out of Saints History?? If so who asked you to do it?? Thornhill Saint
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5:30pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Clever Dick says...

I'm sure we would all love for Matt to be on board the bus. However whether he likes it or not he backed the wrong horse. I think NC came across in the interview as having total tunnel vision with his ambitions for the club, stating that nothing is more important. (He didn't include himself in that unsurprisingly). He did though extend a small olive branch by saying that anybody shaing the vision was welcome aboard. Matt needs to accept that if they are going to iron out their differences it will be NC holding the iron.
I'm sure we would all love for Matt to be on board the bus. However whether he likes it or not he backed the wrong horse. I think NC came across in the interview as having total tunnel vision with his ambitions for the club, stating that nothing is more important. (He didn't include himself in that unsurprisingly). He did though extend a small olive branch by saying that anybody shaing the vision was welcome aboard. Matt needs to accept that if they are going to iron out their differences it will be NC holding the iron. Clever Dick
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5:40pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

2 3 Allen a good long range deflected shot.
2 3 Allen a good long range deflected shot. OSPREYSAINT
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5:44pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saints won 3 2 today against Celtic, St. Mirren that is.
Saints won 3 2 today against Celtic, St. Mirren that is. OSPREYSAINT
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5:53pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Leicestersaint says...

I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class.
I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class. Leicestersaint
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5:57pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

3 2 Oldham Scouse out of Cup.
3 2 Oldham Scouse out of Cup. OSPREYSAINT
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5:59pm Sun 27 Jan 13

slugger says...

Leicestersaint wrote:
I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class.
I say thanks to the guy with the money ....... without him ......... you know the rest .
[quote][p][bold]Leicestersaint[/bold] wrote: I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class.[/p][/quote]I say thanks to the guy with the money ....... without him ......... you know the rest . slugger
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6:00pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Leicestersaint wrote:
I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class.
Typically judgemental about someone you know nothing about, you are just basing it on the same old rhetoric and hearsay which we have been proving to be wrong over and over again. There was an official thank you on the Saint Official Web site, keep up.
[quote][p][bold]Leicestersaint[/bold] wrote: I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class.[/p][/quote]Typically judgemental about someone you know nothing about, you are just basing it on the same old rhetoric and hearsay which we have been proving to be wrong over and over again. There was an official thank you on the Saint Official Web site, keep up. OSPREYSAINT
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6:06pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Bingo from Sholing says...

As a season holder, I am willing to be a witness Matt.
As a season holder, I am willing to be a witness Matt. Bingo from Sholing
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6:07pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Velleity says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Leicestersaint wrote:
I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class.
Typically judgemental about someone you know nothing about, you are just basing it on the same old rhetoric and hearsay which we have been proving to be wrong over and over again. There was an official thank you on the Saint Official Web site, keep up.
Didn't see (and can't see) that. Do you have a link?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Leicestersaint[/bold] wrote: I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class.[/p][/quote]Typically judgemental about someone you know nothing about, you are just basing it on the same old rhetoric and hearsay which we have been proving to be wrong over and over again. There was an official thank you on the Saint Official Web site, keep up.[/p][/quote]Didn't see (and can't see) that. Do you have a link? Velleity
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6:09pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Leicestersaint wrote:
I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class.
I don't think it's a case of fans having to take sides. After all, one is the current Chairman of the Club.....the other, a legend from the past.

I'd like to see MLT made more welcome (as a paying customer), but as posted earlier....it is Cortese's train set and he will lay it out as he sees fit.
[quote][p][bold]Leicestersaint[/bold] wrote: I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class.[/p][/quote]I don't think it's a case of fans having to take sides. After all, one is the current Chairman of the Club.....the other, a legend from the past. I'd like to see MLT made more welcome (as a paying customer), but as posted earlier....it is Cortese's train set and he will lay it out as he sees fit. Baddesley Bill
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6:10pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Velleity wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Leicestersaint wrote:
I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class.
Typically judgemental about someone you know nothing about, you are just basing it on the same old rhetoric and hearsay which we have been proving to be wrong over and over again. There was an official thank you on the Saint Official Web site, keep up.
Didn't see (and can't see) that. Do you have a link?
http://www.saintsfc.
co.uk/news/article/n
ew-first-team-manage
r-appointed-606668.a
spx

"The Club would like to thank Nigel Adkins for his service over the past three seasons, and wish him well for the future."
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Leicestersaint[/bold] wrote: I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class.[/p][/quote]Typically judgemental about someone you know nothing about, you are just basing it on the same old rhetoric and hearsay which we have been proving to be wrong over and over again. There was an official thank you on the Saint Official Web site, keep up.[/p][/quote]Didn't see (and can't see) that. Do you have a link?[/p][/quote]http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/news/article/n ew-first-team-manage r-appointed-606668.a spx "The Club would like to thank Nigel Adkins for his service over the past three seasons, and wish him well for the future." Thornhill Saint
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6:10pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.
Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?
"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.
I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.
Well I never! How dare you Thornhill! a ...a....bbbb... The cheek of it all!
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive. Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists. Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.[/p][/quote]Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?[/p][/quote]"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.[/p][/quote]I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.[/p][/quote]Well I never! How dare you Thornhill! a ...a....bbbb... The cheek of it all! Bring back Branfoot
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6:11pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Velleity wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Leicestersaint wrote:
I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class.
Typically judgemental about someone you know nothing about, you are just basing it on the same old rhetoric and hearsay which we have been proving to be wrong over and over again. There was an official thank you on the Saint Official Web site, keep up.
Didn't see (and can't see) that. Do you have a link?
The Club would like to thank Nigel Adkins for his service over the past three seasons, and wish him well for the future.
Executive Chairman, Nicola Cortese said:
“This decision has been made with the long-term ambitions of Southampton Football Club in mind. Whilst we acknowledge the contribution Nigel has made during the past two years, for the Club to progress and achieve our long-term targets a change was needed.

Short and sweet but there it is in black and white, or white and black as it is on the site.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Leicestersaint[/bold] wrote: I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class.[/p][/quote]Typically judgemental about someone you know nothing about, you are just basing it on the same old rhetoric and hearsay which we have been proving to be wrong over and over again. There was an official thank you on the Saint Official Web site, keep up.[/p][/quote]Didn't see (and can't see) that. Do you have a link?[/p][/quote]The Club would like to thank Nigel Adkins for his service over the past three seasons, and wish him well for the future. Executive Chairman, Nicola Cortese said: “This decision has been made with the long-term ambitions of Southampton Football Club in mind. Whilst we acknowledge the contribution Nigel has made during the past two years, for the Club to progress and achieve our long-term targets a change was needed. Short and sweet but there it is in black and white, or white and black as it is on the site. OSPREYSAINT
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6:18pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.
Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?
"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.
I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.
Anyway Dave..... ignore the gimp.

What I would really like to know, is did you have a hand in airbrushing Adkins out of Saints History??

If so who asked you to do it??
Dave the thing of it is, we don't get celebrities round these parts. The last was Timmy Mallet, and that Tv am money had obviously gone to his head. So Thornhill is understandably excited, please answer his little question and ignore our in house "spat".

Appologies Mr Juson. There happy Thornhill!
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive. Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists. Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.[/p][/quote]Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?[/p][/quote]"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.[/p][/quote]I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.[/p][/quote]Anyway Dave..... ignore the gimp. What I would really like to know, is did you have a hand in airbrushing Adkins out of Saints History?? If so who asked you to do it??[/p][/quote]Dave the thing of it is, we don't get celebrities round these parts. The last was Timmy Mallet, and that Tv am money had obviously gone to his head. So Thornhill is understandably excited, please answer his little question and ignore our in house "spat". Appologies Mr Juson. There happy Thornhill! Bring back Branfoot
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6:27pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.
Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?
"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.
I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.
Anyway Dave..... ignore the gimp.

What I would really like to know, is did you have a hand in airbrushing Adkins out of Saints History??

If so who asked you to do it??
Dave the thing of it is, we don't get celebrities round these parts. The last was Timmy Mallet, and that Tv am money had obviously gone to his head. So Thornhill is understandably excited, please answer his little question and ignore our in house "spat".

Appologies Mr Juson. There happy Thornhill!
Mr. Branfoot etc. etc.

I admit I do not know if you are a gimp or not but I do know you have a penchant for giving it large, and thought I would get in there first.

David Juson may hold all the answers. He know Saints history better than any other except maybe Gary Chalk. Gary.... Does not really post on here so I can't really ask him.

Who better than to enlighten us on Adkins "A historical perspective"
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive. Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists. Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.[/p][/quote]Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?[/p][/quote]"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.[/p][/quote]I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.[/p][/quote]Anyway Dave..... ignore the gimp. What I would really like to know, is did you have a hand in airbrushing Adkins out of Saints History?? If so who asked you to do it??[/p][/quote]Dave the thing of it is, we don't get celebrities round these parts. The last was Timmy Mallet, and that Tv am money had obviously gone to his head. So Thornhill is understandably excited, please answer his little question and ignore our in house "spat". Appologies Mr Juson. There happy Thornhill![/p][/quote]Mr. Branfoot etc. etc. I admit I do not know if you are a gimp or not but I do know you have a penchant for giving it large, and thought I would get in there first. David Juson may hold all the answers. He know Saints history better than any other except maybe Gary Chalk. Gary.... Does not really post on here so I can't really ask him. Who better than to enlighten us on Adkins "A historical perspective" Thornhill Saint
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6:28pm Sun 27 Jan 13

roofspace says...

Red n White wrote:
roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?
I don't have much respect for Le Tissier as a person since he finished his football career. He has taken every opportunity to knock Cortese publicly, on Twitter, TV and even at charity events.
I admire Cortese for his vision for the club. You may have been happy to bounce between the Championship and Premiership, but myself I want to see Saints rise up the table, and it's Cortese's vision to get us into Europe so I respect and like him.
Don't talk like you represent every Saints fan, or are you hoping for an interview from the Echo?
Ahh, one of the sycophants has broke cover............
[quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: 100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days. 100% like And respect him. 100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion. 0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants). Now why would that be?[/p][/quote]I don't have much respect for Le Tissier as a person since he finished his football career. He has taken every opportunity to knock Cortese publicly, on Twitter, TV and even at charity events. I admire Cortese for his vision for the club. You may have been happy to bounce between the Championship and Premiership, but myself I want to see Saints rise up the table, and it's Cortese's vision to get us into Europe so I respect and like him. Don't talk like you represent every Saints fan, or are you hoping for an interview from the Echo?[/p][/quote]Ahh, one of the sycophants has broke cover............ roofspace
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6:31pm Sun 27 Jan 13

roofspace says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?
I don't know, tell us.
If you had a functioning brain cell I wouldn't have to.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: 100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days. 100% like And respect him. 100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion. 0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants). Now why would that be?[/p][/quote]I don't know, tell us.[/p][/quote]If you had a functioning brain cell I wouldn't have to. roofspace
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6:40pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.
Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?
"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.
I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.
Anyway Dave..... ignore the gimp.

What I would really like to know, is did you have a hand in airbrushing Adkins out of Saints History??

If so who asked you to do it??
Dave the thing of it is, we don't get celebrities round these parts. The last was Timmy Mallet, and that Tv am money had obviously gone to his head. So Thornhill is understandably excited, please answer his little question and ignore our in house "spat".

Appologies Mr Juson. There happy Thornhill!
Mr. Branfoot etc. etc.

I admit I do not know if you are a gimp or not but I do know you have a penchant for giving it large, and thought I would get in there first.

David Juson may hold all the answers. He know Saints history better than any other except maybe Gary Chalk. Gary.... Does not really post on here so I can't really ask him.

Who better than to enlighten us on Adkins "A historical perspective"
I apologised, did I not! Your question was most certainly valid. I was larking around.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive. Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists. Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.[/p][/quote]Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?[/p][/quote]"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.[/p][/quote]I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.[/p][/quote]Anyway Dave..... ignore the gimp. What I would really like to know, is did you have a hand in airbrushing Adkins out of Saints History?? If so who asked you to do it??[/p][/quote]Dave the thing of it is, we don't get celebrities round these parts. The last was Timmy Mallet, and that Tv am money had obviously gone to his head. So Thornhill is understandably excited, please answer his little question and ignore our in house "spat". Appologies Mr Juson. There happy Thornhill![/p][/quote]Mr. Branfoot etc. etc. I admit I do not know if you are a gimp or not but I do know you have a penchant for giving it large, and thought I would get in there first. David Juson may hold all the answers. He know Saints history better than any other except maybe Gary Chalk. Gary.... Does not really post on here so I can't really ask him. Who better than to enlighten us on Adkins "A historical perspective"[/p][/quote]I apologised, did I not! Your question was most certainly valid. I was larking around. Bring back Branfoot
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6:44pm Sun 27 Jan 13

angus mc coatup says...

I don't think cortese gives a monkey's about his percieved personality from
his many critics.he Is so focused on where this clubs is going that his burning ambition gets confused with his so called ruthlessness .nigel and probably a few others becomes collateral damage I'm afraid.he sets the direction and strategies of the club and then does whats necessary to acheive those aims.
It would be great to see mlt and all ex saints together with cortese,and that would show him in a better light I think.

but don't hold your breath
I don't think cortese gives a monkey's about his percieved personality from his many critics.he Is so focused on where this clubs is going that his burning ambition gets confused with his so called ruthlessness .nigel and probably a few others becomes collateral damage I'm afraid.he sets the direction and strategies of the club and then does whats necessary to acheive those aims. It would be great to see mlt and all ex saints together with cortese,and that would show him in a better light I think. but don't hold your breath angus mc coatup
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6:50pm Sun 27 Jan 13

slugger says...

roofspace wrote:
Red n White wrote:
roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?
I don't have much respect for Le Tissier as a person since he finished his football career. He has taken every opportunity to knock Cortese publicly, on Twitter, TV and even at charity events.
I admire Cortese for his vision for the club. You may have been happy to bounce between the Championship and Premiership, but myself I want to see Saints rise up the table, and it's Cortese's vision to get us into Europe so I respect and like him.
Don't talk like you represent every Saints fan, or are you hoping for an interview from the Echo?
Ahh, one of the sycophants has broke cover............
Another one here ........... you don't speak for me pal.
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: 100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days. 100% like And respect him. 100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion. 0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants). Now why would that be?[/p][/quote]I don't have much respect for Le Tissier as a person since he finished his football career. He has taken every opportunity to knock Cortese publicly, on Twitter, TV and even at charity events. I admire Cortese for his vision for the club. You may have been happy to bounce between the Championship and Premiership, but myself I want to see Saints rise up the table, and it's Cortese's vision to get us into Europe so I respect and like him. Don't talk like you represent every Saints fan, or are you hoping for an interview from the Echo?[/p][/quote]Ahh, one of the sycophants has broke cover............[/p][/quote]Another one here ........... you don't speak for me pal. slugger
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6:50pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

roofspace wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?
I don't know, tell us.
If you had a functioning brain cell I wouldn't have to.
I could care less if NC is likeable! Just because he's not from the football fraternity, you don't like him. Inverted snobbery, if you please!

He's dipping his Rolex wearing hand into the family's deep pockets to fund, genoursly, the development of the squad. His decision to make NA walk the plank was not pleasant, but will ultimately be proved to be correct! To be driven is not a bad thing.
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: 100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days. 100% like And respect him. 100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion. 0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants). Now why would that be?[/p][/quote]I don't know, tell us.[/p][/quote]If you had a functioning brain cell I wouldn't have to.[/p][/quote]I could care less if NC is likeable! Just because he's not from the football fraternity, you don't like him. Inverted snobbery, if you please! He's dipping his Rolex wearing hand into the family's deep pockets to fund, genoursly, the development of the squad. His decision to make NA walk the plank was not pleasant, but will ultimately be proved to be correct! To be driven is not a bad thing. Bring back Branfoot
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6:50pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Baddesley Bill says...

roofspace wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?
I don't know, tell us.
If you had a functioning brain cell I wouldn't have to.
Cortese has said it himself....he's not in the business of winning any popularity contests. He's in the business of progressing our Club.

I'm not totally sure what MLT's motives are right now...possibly winning a popularity contest?

I trust NC will be answerable if it all goes hideously wrong. Until that happens, I will give him the benefit.....
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: 100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days. 100% like And respect him. 100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion. 0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants). Now why would that be?[/p][/quote]I don't know, tell us.[/p][/quote]If you had a functioning brain cell I wouldn't have to.[/p][/quote]Cortese has said it himself....he's not in the business of winning any popularity contests. He's in the business of progressing our Club. I'm not totally sure what MLT's motives are right now...possibly winning a popularity contest? I trust NC will be answerable if it all goes hideously wrong. Until that happens, I will give him the benefit..... Baddesley Bill
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6:51pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

roofspace wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?
I don't know, tell us.
If you had a functioning brain cell I wouldn't have to.
Assume that I haven't and tell me anyway please?
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: 100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days. 100% like And respect him. 100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion. 0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants). Now why would that be?[/p][/quote]I don't know, tell us.[/p][/quote]If you had a functioning brain cell I wouldn't have to.[/p][/quote]Assume that I haven't and tell me anyway please? OSPREYSAINT
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6:51pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.
Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?
"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.
I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.
Anyway Dave..... ignore the gimp.

What I would really like to know, is did you have a hand in airbrushing Adkins out of Saints History??

If so who asked you to do it??
Dave the thing of it is, we don't get celebrities round these parts. The last was Timmy Mallet, and that Tv am money had obviously gone to his head. So Thornhill is understandably excited, please answer his little question and ignore our in house "spat".

Appologies Mr Juson. There happy Thornhill!
Mr. Branfoot etc. etc.

I admit I do not know if you are a gimp or not but I do know you have a penchant for giving it large, and thought I would get in there first.

David Juson may hold all the answers. He know Saints history better than any other except maybe Gary Chalk. Gary.... Does not really post on here so I can't really ask him.

Who better than to enlighten us on Adkins "A historical perspective"
I apologised, did I not! Your question was most certainly valid. I was larking around.
Totally accepted. I hope David..... has not been scared off.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive. Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists. Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.[/p][/quote]Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?[/p][/quote]"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.[/p][/quote]I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.[/p][/quote]Anyway Dave..... ignore the gimp. What I would really like to know, is did you have a hand in airbrushing Adkins out of Saints History?? If so who asked you to do it??[/p][/quote]Dave the thing of it is, we don't get celebrities round these parts. The last was Timmy Mallet, and that Tv am money had obviously gone to his head. So Thornhill is understandably excited, please answer his little question and ignore our in house "spat". Appologies Mr Juson. There happy Thornhill![/p][/quote]Mr. Branfoot etc. etc. I admit I do not know if you are a gimp or not but I do know you have a penchant for giving it large, and thought I would get in there first. David Juson may hold all the answers. He know Saints history better than any other except maybe Gary Chalk. Gary.... Does not really post on here so I can't really ask him. Who better than to enlighten us on Adkins "A historical perspective"[/p][/quote]I apologised, did I not! Your question was most certainly valid. I was larking around.[/p][/quote]Totally accepted. I hope David..... has not been scared off. Thornhill Saint
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6:58pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.
Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?
"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.
I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.
Anyway Dave..... ignore the gimp.

What I would really like to know, is did you have a hand in airbrushing Adkins out of Saints History??

If so who asked you to do it??
Dave the thing of it is, we don't get celebrities round these parts. The last was Timmy Mallet, and that Tv am money had obviously gone to his head. So Thornhill is understandably excited, please answer his little question and ignore our in house "spat".

Appologies Mr Juson. There happy Thornhill!
Mr. Branfoot etc. etc.

I admit I do not know if you are a gimp or not but I do know you have a penchant for giving it large, and thought I would get in there first.

David Juson may hold all the answers. He know Saints history better than any other except maybe Gary Chalk. Gary.... Does not really post on here so I can't really ask him.

Who better than to enlighten us on Adkins "A historical perspective"
I apologised, did I not! Your question was most certainly valid. I was larking around.
Totally accepted. I hope David..... has not been scared off.
Mr Juson, come back.......please! No Thornhill, he ain't coming back! Hopefully a good book will come out of this unedifying episode.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive. Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists. Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.[/p][/quote]Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?[/p][/quote]"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.[/p][/quote]I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.[/p][/quote]Anyway Dave..... ignore the gimp. What I would really like to know, is did you have a hand in airbrushing Adkins out of Saints History?? If so who asked you to do it??[/p][/quote]Dave the thing of it is, we don't get celebrities round these parts. The last was Timmy Mallet, and that Tv am money had obviously gone to his head. So Thornhill is understandably excited, please answer his little question and ignore our in house "spat". Appologies Mr Juson. There happy Thornhill![/p][/quote]Mr. Branfoot etc. etc. I admit I do not know if you are a gimp or not but I do know you have a penchant for giving it large, and thought I would get in there first. David Juson may hold all the answers. He know Saints history better than any other except maybe Gary Chalk. Gary.... Does not really post on here so I can't really ask him. Who better than to enlighten us on Adkins "A historical perspective"[/p][/quote]I apologised, did I not! Your question was most certainly valid. I was larking around.[/p][/quote]Totally accepted. I hope David..... has not been scared off.[/p][/quote]Mr Juson, come back.......please! No Thornhill, he ain't coming back! Hopefully a good book will come out of this unedifying episode. Bring back Branfoot
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7:05pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

Nicola's remit is to get success for the club, not sell himself as likeable to us. Because Matty is a club legend and a good lad doesn't mean I want him running the club. Give me sb who is willing to make the unpopular decisions in order to attain success.
Nicola's remit is to get success for the club, not sell himself as likeable to us. Because Matty is a club legend and a good lad doesn't mean I want him running the club. Give me sb who is willing to make the unpopular decisions in order to attain success. Bring back Branfoot
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7:08pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Meribelsaint says...

slugger wrote:
roofspace wrote:
Red n White wrote:
roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?
I don't have much respect for Le Tissier as a person since he finished his football career. He has taken every opportunity to knock Cortese publicly, on Twitter, TV and even at charity events.
I admire Cortese for his vision for the club. You may have been happy to bounce between the Championship and Premiership, but myself I want to see Saints rise up the table, and it's Cortese's vision to get us into Europe so I respect and like him.
Don't talk like you represent every Saints fan, or are you hoping for an interview from the Echo?
Ahh, one of the sycophants has broke cover............
Another one here ........... you don't speak for me pal.
Or me. Although isn't it nice to know who 'the voice of the fans' is! I love MLT for what he's done for us and I love NC for where he's gonna take us.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: 100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days. 100% like And respect him. 100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion. 0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants). Now why would that be?[/p][/quote]I don't have much respect for Le Tissier as a person since he finished his football career. He has taken every opportunity to knock Cortese publicly, on Twitter, TV and even at charity events. I admire Cortese for his vision for the club. You may have been happy to bounce between the Championship and Premiership, but myself I want to see Saints rise up the table, and it's Cortese's vision to get us into Europe so I respect and like him. Don't talk like you represent every Saints fan, or are you hoping for an interview from the Echo?[/p][/quote]Ahh, one of the sycophants has broke cover............[/p][/quote]Another one here ........... you don't speak for me pal.[/p][/quote]Or me. Although isn't it nice to know who 'the voice of the fans' is! I love MLT for what he's done for us and I love NC for where he's gonna take us. Meribelsaint
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7:10pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Sir Ad E Noid says...

iswhite10 wrote:
Matt, if you want to sort this don't do it in the media, do it in private.
If there's one thing we can all work out about Nicola it's don't wash dirty linen (or indeed ANY linen!) in public, whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation.
Best post on this thread and one that Le Tiss should heed if he wants to move things along from where they are now.
[quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: Matt, if you want to sort this don't do it in the media, do it in private. If there's one thing we can all work out about Nicola it's don't wash dirty linen (or indeed ANY linen!) in public, whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation.[/p][/quote]Best post on this thread and one that Le Tiss should heed if he wants to move things along from where they are now. Sir Ad E Noid
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7:18pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

Sir Ad E Noid wrote:
iswhite10 wrote:
Matt, if you want to sort this don't do it in the media, do it in private.
If there's one thing we can all work out about Nicola it's don't wash dirty linen (or indeed ANY linen!) in public, whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation.
Best post on this thread and one that Le Tiss should heed if he wants to move things along from where they are now.
Agree! White is spot on! Please listen to the fans Tiss!
[quote][p][bold]Sir Ad E Noid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iswhite10[/bold] wrote: Matt, if you want to sort this don't do it in the media, do it in private. If there's one thing we can all work out about Nicola it's don't wash dirty linen (or indeed ANY linen!) in public, whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation.[/p][/quote]Best post on this thread and one that Le Tiss should heed if he wants to move things along from where they are now.[/p][/quote]Agree! White is spot on! Please listen to the fans Tiss! Bring back Branfoot
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7:19pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Meribelsaint says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Nicola's remit is to get success for the club, not sell himself as likeable to us. Because Matty is a club legend and a good lad doesn't mean I want him running the club. Give me sb who is willing to make the unpopular decisions in order to attain success.
Spot on
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: Nicola's remit is to get success for the club, not sell himself as likeable to us. Because Matty is a club legend and a good lad doesn't mean I want him running the club. Give me sb who is willing to make the unpopular decisions in order to attain success.[/p][/quote]Spot on Meribelsaint
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7:41pm Sun 27 Jan 13

ottostrasser says...

Who the hell does MLT think he is "demanding" a meeting with Mr Cortese?
Cortese is the Chairman of our club and hasnt put a foot wrong.
Matt retire with dignity youve got a nice job with Sky unfortunately you use it to attack our succesful set up and hang out with your friends like Mike Osman.
Where is Mike Osman BTW way he was always sticking his oar in? Hes gone strangely quiet ............
Who the hell does MLT think he is "demanding" a meeting with Mr Cortese? Cortese is the Chairman of our club and hasnt put a foot wrong. Matt retire with dignity youve got a nice job with Sky unfortunately you use it to attack our succesful set up and hang out with your friends like Mike Osman. Where is Mike Osman BTW way he was always sticking his oar in? Hes gone strangely quiet ............ ottostrasser
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7:45pm Sun 27 Jan 13

St.David says...

Having just watched the NC interview on Sky it's difficult not to be impressed with the mans drive and ambition. . If I could presume to give him advice it would be to get Mat on board. . Drive, ambition, passion, loyalty. . Along with ML money. . Who knows what is possible. The bus ride is over. . . All aboard the rocket ship!!!! Coyrs. . .
Having just watched the NC interview on Sky it's difficult not to be impressed with the mans drive and ambition. . If I could presume to give him advice it would be to get Mat on board. . Drive, ambition, passion, loyalty. . Along with ML money. . Who knows what is possible. The bus ride is over. . . All aboard the rocket ship!!!! Coyrs. . . St.David
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7:50pm Sun 27 Jan 13

ottostrasser says...

Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that.
Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.
Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that. Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club. ottostrasser
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7:53pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

ottostrasser wrote:
Who the hell does MLT think he is "demanding" a meeting with Mr Cortese?
Cortese is the Chairman of our club and hasnt put a foot wrong.
Matt retire with dignity youve got a nice job with Sky unfortunately you use it to attack our succesful set up and hang out with your friends like Mike Osman.
Where is Mike Osman BTW way he was always sticking his oar in? Hes gone strangely quiet ............
Where did "demanding" come from, the last I heard was that he was going to request a meeting, not quite the same.
[quote][p][bold]ottostrasser[/bold] wrote: Who the hell does MLT think he is "demanding" a meeting with Mr Cortese? Cortese is the Chairman of our club and hasnt put a foot wrong. Matt retire with dignity youve got a nice job with Sky unfortunately you use it to attack our succesful set up and hang out with your friends like Mike Osman. Where is Mike Osman BTW way he was always sticking his oar in? Hes gone strangely quiet ............[/p][/quote]Where did "demanding" come from, the last I heard was that he was going to request a meeting, not quite the same. OSPREYSAINT
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7:57pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Ontario Saint says...

Must admit I am really fed up with the way the Echo sportswriters constantly try to "stir things up".
MLT as great a hero as he was as a player should deal with Cortese privately instead of trying to make a public exhibition of his dislike for Cortese.
Why can't he take the time out to meet with Cortese privately rather than his need to as much as make a court case of his proposed meeting with Cortese.
Yes Cortese is a business man but without his being there where would our Club be......Certainly MLT s efforts to take the Club over failed and perhaps he has a chip on his shoulder and is jealous of the success Cortese has achieved in taking the Club to the level we are now at .
I felt the same as most people when Adkins was fired ...he was without doubt the best Manager the Club has ever had and had a great personality to go with it.
I am sure Nigel will be successful wherever he goes and he will be a legend at the club as a Manager in the same way as Mattie was as a player.
But the image I had of Mat has changed because of his need to stir it up and his inability to move on.
To me Terry Paine has continued to support the Club and its Management as has Jason Dodd and I am sure they have a different attitude and way of going about things which Cortese is receptive to.
I do agree Cortese is not the best ambassador for the Club but he is bringing huge success to the Club. We have to move forward ....I like MP his new choice of Manager & it seems the current players like him too and this is what is important.
I just wished the Echo sportswriters could write more about the squad and enlighten us on how they feel about the Club rather than writing about than constantly stirring up trouble.
These are exciting times for the Club and the Echo's articles are counter productive and boring
Must admit I am really fed up with the way the Echo sportswriters constantly try to "stir things up". MLT as great a hero as he was as a player should deal with Cortese privately instead of trying to make a public exhibition of his dislike for Cortese. Why can't he take the time out to meet with Cortese privately rather than his need to as much as make a court case of his proposed meeting with Cortese. Yes Cortese is a business man but without his being there where would our Club be......Certainly MLT s efforts to take the Club over failed and perhaps he has a chip on his shoulder and is jealous of the success Cortese has achieved in taking the Club to the level we are now at . I felt the same as most people when Adkins was fired ...he was without doubt the best Manager the Club has ever had and had a great personality to go with it. I am sure Nigel will be successful wherever he goes and he will be a legend at the club as a Manager in the same way as Mattie was as a player. But the image I had of Mat has changed because of his need to stir it up and his inability to move on. To me Terry Paine has continued to support the Club and its Management as has Jason Dodd and I am sure they have a different attitude and way of going about things which Cortese is receptive to. I do agree Cortese is not the best ambassador for the Club but he is bringing huge success to the Club. We have to move forward ....I like MP his new choice of Manager & it seems the current players like him too and this is what is important. I just wished the Echo sportswriters could write more about the squad and enlighten us on how they feel about the Club rather than writing about than constantly stirring up trouble. These are exciting times for the Club and the Echo's articles are counter productive and boring Ontario Saint
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8:03pm Sun 27 Jan 13

St.David says...

Not wishing to "suck up" to Mat I think he deserves every Saints fans respect and I believe he always had. . And still has SFC best interest at heart. . I certainly remember how desperate I felt in those days of administration. If MLT and NC can start working together it can only be good for us all. . Mat is actually no different than the rest of us now. OK. . He got to play for saints for years, score loads of goals, become a saints ledgend, and now has a high profile job with sky. . But underneath he is another saints fan wishing the best for our great club. . Like it or not he is in a position to air his views in front of millions. . If NC gets MLT on board I just think it will be awesom. . . And can only be good.
Not wishing to "suck up" to Mat I think he deserves every Saints fans respect and I believe he always had. . And still has SFC best interest at heart. . I certainly remember how desperate I felt in those days of administration. If MLT and NC can start working together it can only be good for us all. . Mat is actually no different than the rest of us now. OK. . He got to play for saints for years, score loads of goals, become a saints ledgend, and now has a high profile job with sky. . But underneath he is another saints fan wishing the best for our great club. . Like it or not he is in a position to air his views in front of millions. . If NC gets MLT on board I just think it will be awesom. . . And can only be good. St.David
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8:03pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.
Although i have not been able to comment for a month or so I have been following all that has happened
During that time I was surprise at your lack of comments on the NA dissmissal but I thank you for this post which appears to be extremely well thought out

I am still angry about the change but for reasons that go beyond football. having watched the interview i find myself wanting answers to two more questions

When he said it was perfect timing for the players was he hinting that some unrest in the dressing room was about to service?

When he basically said no one individual is bigger than the club was he saying that our love of Adkins was getting to be to important ?

Whatever happens I will never forget the man who gave us such afantastic 2 and a bit years
Glad to have you back mate, hope all is well.

In my opinion all of this could be so much easier with just clearer communication from the club. Not secrets about transfers etc obviously, but stuff that doesn't affect any of the clubs business dealings. It's a two way street.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard. As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version. Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement. I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court. I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people. I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them. Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.[/p][/quote]Although i have not been able to comment for a month or so I have been following all that has happened During that time I was surprise at your lack of comments on the NA dissmissal but I thank you for this post which appears to be extremely well thought out I am still angry about the change but for reasons that go beyond football. having watched the interview i find myself wanting answers to two more questions When he said it was perfect timing for the players was he hinting that some unrest in the dressing room was about to service? When he basically said no one individual is bigger than the club was he saying that our love of Adkins was getting to be to important ? Whatever happens I will never forget the man who gave us such afantastic 2 and a bit years[/p][/quote]Glad to have you back mate, hope all is well. In my opinion all of this could be so much easier with just clearer communication from the club. Not secrets about transfers etc obviously, but stuff that doesn't affect any of the clubs business dealings. It's a two way street. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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8:06pm Sun 27 Jan 13

SaintsBTGOG says...

ottostrasser wrote:
Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that.
Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.
God i hope youre not a Saints fan. Matt never led any pinnacle bid. Matts simply been responding to the actions of Cortese. Like banning him from buying tickets !!

You are clueless
[quote][p][bold]ottostrasser[/bold] wrote: Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that. Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.[/p][/quote]God i hope youre not a Saints fan. Matt never led any pinnacle bid. Matts simply been responding to the actions of Cortese. Like banning him from buying tickets !! You are clueless SaintsBTGOG
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8:06pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.
Although i have not been able to comment for a month or so I have been following all that has happened
During that time I was surprise at your lack of comments on the NA dissmissal but I thank you for this post which appears to be extremely well thought out

I am still angry about the change but for reasons that go beyond football. having watched the interview i find myself wanting answers to two more questions

When he said it was perfect timing for the players was he hinting that some unrest in the dressing room was about to service?

When he basically said no one individual is bigger than the club was he saying that our love of Adkins was getting to be to important ?

Whatever happens I will never forget the man who gave us such afantastic 2 and a bit years
Glad to have you back mate, hope all is well.

In my opinion all of this could be so much easier with just clearer communication from the club. Not secrets about transfers etc obviously, but stuff that doesn't affect any of the clubs business dealings. It's a two way street.
I second that, on all points.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard. As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version. Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement. I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court. I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people. I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them. Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.[/p][/quote]Although i have not been able to comment for a month or so I have been following all that has happened During that time I was surprise at your lack of comments on the NA dissmissal but I thank you for this post which appears to be extremely well thought out I am still angry about the change but for reasons that go beyond football. having watched the interview i find myself wanting answers to two more questions When he said it was perfect timing for the players was he hinting that some unrest in the dressing room was about to service? When he basically said no one individual is bigger than the club was he saying that our love of Adkins was getting to be to important ? Whatever happens I will never forget the man who gave us such afantastic 2 and a bit years[/p][/quote]Glad to have you back mate, hope all is well. In my opinion all of this could be so much easier with just clearer communication from the club. Not secrets about transfers etc obviously, but stuff that doesn't affect any of the clubs business dealings. It's a two way street.[/p][/quote]I second that, on all points. OSPREYSAINT
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8:09pm Sun 27 Jan 13

SaintsBTGOG says...

franiow wrote:
MLT should have asked to meet Nicola in a clear the air meeting by a private approach rather than twitter. I suppose he's hurt by the fact that Cortese met him, but doesn't remember him. He has constantly had digs at Nicola...people don't respond well to that whether you are wrong or right. As he cares about SFC, I suggest he tries to get a meeting. Why does he want witnesses...Nicola isn't actually likely to turn violent.
Ahh are you not aware what exactly Corterse has been doing to create such a situation ?

All Mattys done is respond to the poking and stated his opinion like any other Saints fan.
[quote][p][bold]franiow[/bold] wrote: MLT should have asked to meet Nicola in a clear the air meeting by a private approach rather than twitter. I suppose he's hurt by the fact that Cortese met him, but doesn't remember him. He has constantly had digs at Nicola...people don't respond well to that whether you are wrong or right. As he cares about SFC, I suggest he tries to get a meeting. Why does he want witnesses...Nicola isn't actually likely to turn violent.[/p][/quote]Ahh are you not aware what exactly Corterse has been doing to create such a situation ? All Mattys done is respond to the poking and stated his opinion like any other Saints fan. SaintsBTGOG
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8:10pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

franiow wrote:
MLT should have asked to meet Nicola in a clear the air meeting by a private approach rather than twitter. I suppose he's hurt by the fact that Cortese met him, but doesn't remember him. He has constantly had digs at Nicola...people don't respond well to that whether you are wrong or right. As he cares about SFC, I suggest he tries to get a meeting. Why does he want witnesses...Nicola isn't actually likely to turn violent.
Franiow that's a rather stupid comment from one as clever as you.

The lady that was the corporate sales executive once told me that she and others had a sales meeting with NC every Monday. His PA took the minutes but refused to distribute them. She claimed that the goal posts frequently moved with certain instructions being reversed or denied a week later.

She asked my advice. I said after your next meeting email NC confirming your understanding of your brief. She was sacked.

Maybe Matt wanted independant witnesses to ensure that whatever was said and agreed couldn't be twisted by either party afterwards. Pretty sensible don't you think?
[quote][p][bold]franiow[/bold] wrote: MLT should have asked to meet Nicola in a clear the air meeting by a private approach rather than twitter. I suppose he's hurt by the fact that Cortese met him, but doesn't remember him. He has constantly had digs at Nicola...people don't respond well to that whether you are wrong or right. As he cares about SFC, I suggest he tries to get a meeting. Why does he want witnesses...Nicola isn't actually likely to turn violent.[/p][/quote]Franiow that's a rather stupid comment from one as clever as you. The lady that was the corporate sales executive once told me that she and others had a sales meeting with NC every Monday. His PA took the minutes but refused to distribute them. She claimed that the goal posts frequently moved with certain instructions being reversed or denied a week later. She asked my advice. I said after your next meeting email NC confirming your understanding of your brief. She was sacked. Maybe Matt wanted independant witnesses to ensure that whatever was said and agreed couldn't be twisted by either party afterwards. Pretty sensible don't you think? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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8:10pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Exiled Saint - front line eastern outpost of Gosport says...

MLT's opinion on anything is invalid since he was caught spanking that bird from "home and away" he is clearly a sexual deviant who cannot be trusted with the toast.
MLT's opinion on anything is invalid since he was caught spanking that bird from "home and away" he is clearly a sexual deviant who cannot be trusted with the toast. Exiled Saint - front line eastern outpost of Gosport
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8:10pm Sun 27 Jan 13

SaintsBTGOG says...

loadcee wrote:
Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of .
Really ????

Those two simply bought us if it wasnt them it would of been someone else.
[quote][p][bold]loadcee[/bold] wrote: Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of .[/p][/quote]Really ???? Those two simply bought us if it wasnt them it would of been someone else. SaintsBTGOG
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8:13pm Sun 27 Jan 13

SaintsBTGOG says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!
Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason![/p][/quote]Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business. SaintsBTGOG
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8:14pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Tirau Dan says...

Sick of this, Sick of Le Tissier
For goodness sake move on
Fialka Off
Sick of this, Sick of Le Tissier For goodness sake move on Fialka Off Tirau Dan
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8:14pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Hamitus Prime says...

Funny how Matt "Do you know who i am" Le Tissier is accusing someone of having an ego. Get back to your lackies at the golf club. He'll be on big brother next he's so desperate for publicity!
Funny how Matt "Do you know who i am" Le Tissier is accusing someone of having an ego. Get back to your lackies at the golf club. He'll be on big brother next he's so desperate for publicity! Hamitus Prime
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8:16pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
Sick of this, Sick of Le Tissier
For goodness sake move on
Fialka Off
Very unfair Dan. When it looked like no one was going to step in Matt tried to get something going. It was total rubbish but the motivation was right. Top player poor businessman.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Sick of this, Sick of Le Tissier For goodness sake move on Fialka Off[/p][/quote]Very unfair Dan. When it looked like no one was going to step in Matt tried to get something going. It was total rubbish but the motivation was right. Top player poor businessman. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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8:18pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Hamitus Prime wrote:
Funny how Matt "Do you know who i am" Le Tissier is accusing someone of having an ego. Get back to your lackies at the golf club. He'll be on big brother next he's so desperate for publicity!
That's not the Matt I've had the pleasure to meet on many occasions. You ever met him?

Infact you ever posted here before?

Just asking like.
[quote][p][bold]Hamitus Prime[/bold] wrote: Funny how Matt "Do you know who i am" Le Tissier is accusing someone of having an ego. Get back to your lackies at the golf club. He'll be on big brother next he's so desperate for publicity![/p][/quote]That's not the Matt I've had the pleasure to meet on many occasions. You ever met him? Infact you ever posted here before? Just asking like. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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8:20pm Sun 27 Jan 13

SaintsBTGOG says...

Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.
Are you the same goon that was up Lowes backside ? You clearly are clueless as to what has actually gone on.

Maybe you should ask him and indeed others who work for Cortese.

Remember the Daily Echo where banned from SMS for printing a public planning application !! After being let back in as they needed media to con fans for the reason Pardew was sacked. They where then banned again for something comical regarding photos on this website.

Corteses behaviour is all about control as Pardew and Adkins found out.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive. Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists. Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.[/p][/quote]Are you the same goon that was up Lowes backside ? You clearly are clueless as to what has actually gone on. Maybe you should ask him and indeed others who work for Cortese. Remember the Daily Echo where banned from SMS for printing a public planning application !! After being let back in as they needed media to con fans for the reason Pardew was sacked. They where then banned again for something comical regarding photos on this website. Corteses behaviour is all about control as Pardew and Adkins found out. SaintsBTGOG
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8:22pm Sun 27 Jan 13

andysaints007 says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.
where are the trophies
Yours went on e-Bay years ago.
2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul
It's such a shame that FA cup win has actually ended up costing you your club !! ****
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.[/p][/quote]where are the trophies[/p][/quote]Yours went on e-Bay years ago.[/p][/quote]2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul[/p][/quote]It's such a shame that FA cup win has actually ended up costing you your club !! **** andysaints007
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8:23pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Baddesley Bill says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
loadcee wrote:
Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of .
Really ????

Those two simply bought us if it wasnt them it would of been someone else.
I seem to remember the being less than 7 days from oblivion after the Pinnicle farce collapsed...

...in my opinion, Markus Liebherr (on the advice of NC) saved the Club. I was not aware of the "someone else" you are referring to.
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loadcee[/bold] wrote: Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of .[/p][/quote]Really ???? Those two simply bought us if it wasnt them it would of been someone else.[/p][/quote]I seem to remember the being less than 7 days from oblivion after the Pinnicle farce collapsed... ...in my opinion, Markus Liebherr (on the advice of NC) saved the Club. I was not aware of the "someone else" you are referring to. Baddesley Bill
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8:24pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
loadcee wrote:
Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of .
Really ????

Those two simply bought us if it wasnt them it would of been someone else.
I seem to remember the being less than 7 days from oblivion after the Pinnicle farce collapsed...

...in my opinion, Markus Liebherr (on the advice of NC) saved the Club. I was not aware of the "someone else" you are referring to.
*the Club
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loadcee[/bold] wrote: Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of .[/p][/quote]Really ???? Those two simply bought us if it wasnt them it would of been someone else.[/p][/quote]I seem to remember the being less than 7 days from oblivion after the Pinnicle farce collapsed... ...in my opinion, Markus Liebherr (on the advice of NC) saved the Club. I was not aware of the "someone else" you are referring to.[/p][/quote]*the Club Baddesley Bill
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8:33pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!
Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.
I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason![/p][/quote]Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.[/p][/quote]I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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8:38pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
loadcee wrote:
Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of .
Really ????

Those two simply bought us if it wasnt them it would of been someone else.
I seem to remember the being less than 7 days from oblivion after the Pinnicle farce collapsed...

...in my opinion, Markus Liebherr (on the advice of NC) saved the Club. I was not aware of the "someone else" you are referring to.
There was no one else and there was no time to organise a fans takeover. It was within hours.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loadcee[/bold] wrote: Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of .[/p][/quote]Really ???? Those two simply bought us if it wasnt them it would of been someone else.[/p][/quote]I seem to remember the being less than 7 days from oblivion after the Pinnicle farce collapsed... ...in my opinion, Markus Liebherr (on the advice of NC) saved the Club. I was not aware of the "someone else" you are referring to.[/p][/quote]There was no one else and there was no time to organise a fans takeover. It was within hours. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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8:40pm Sun 27 Jan 13

slugger says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
loadcee wrote:
Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of .
Really ????

Those two simply bought us if it wasnt them it would of been someone else.
I seem to remember the being less than 7 days from oblivion after the Pinnicle farce collapsed...

...in my opinion, Markus Liebherr (on the advice of NC) saved the Club. I was not aware of the "someone else" you are referring to.
It was hours from oblivion ....... some people's memory's are shocking !
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loadcee[/bold] wrote: Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of .[/p][/quote]Really ???? Those two simply bought us if it wasnt them it would of been someone else.[/p][/quote]I seem to remember the being less than 7 days from oblivion after the Pinnicle farce collapsed... ...in my opinion, Markus Liebherr (on the advice of NC) saved the Club. I was not aware of the "someone else" you are referring to.[/p][/quote]It was hours from oblivion ....... some people's memory's are shocking ! slugger
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8:42pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
loadcee wrote:
Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of .
Really ????

Those two simply bought us if it wasnt them it would of been someone else.
Who? there wasn't exactly a queue around the block, in fact I think you will find, that they were the last in the line and because they didn't get exclusivity, they nearly pulled out even then. We are very lucky with what we got and anybody that says different are delusional or deliberately stirring things up for other reasons. We have to thank the administrator Mark Fry for his inspiration in selecting the Markus Liebherr offer. Had he not done so, this Club would be dead in the water, never forget that. Oh! we also have the Football League to thank for not approving of the Pinnacle deal, it was a narrow squeak, that was over the minus ten point deduction. Fate can be kind sometimes..
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loadcee[/bold] wrote: Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of .[/p][/quote]Really ???? Those two simply bought us if it wasnt them it would of been someone else.[/p][/quote]Who? there wasn't exactly a queue around the block, in fact I think you will find, that they were the last in the line and because they didn't get exclusivity, they nearly pulled out even then. We are very lucky with what we got and anybody that says different are delusional or deliberately stirring things up for other reasons. We have to thank the administrator Mark Fry for his inspiration in selecting the Markus Liebherr offer. Had he not done so, this Club would be dead in the water, never forget that. Oh! we also have the Football League to thank for not approving of the Pinnacle deal, it was a narrow squeak, that was over the minus ten point deduction. Fate can be kind sometimes.. OSPREYSAINT
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8:43pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!
Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.
I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.
No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason![/p][/quote]Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.[/p][/quote]I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.[/p][/quote]No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true? Thornhill Saint
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8:45pm Sun 27 Jan 13

slugger says...

Great minds Seed , great minds ......
Great minds Seed , great minds ...... slugger
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8:55pm Sun 27 Jan 13

rednwhite72 says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
rednwhite72 wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.
where are the trophies
with all due respect, and I am for once going to try and be serious with you here, how can a supporter of a club that has destroyed itself, over and over advise another on how to keep our house tidy. Your situation down there is unpresidented, without equal, there has never been such a catastrophic failure to run a business/football club by anyone ever before in football history(Im sure thats one part of bygone that you will wanna forget). Why did the supporters allow this to happen? you made choices, you allowed the former owners to destroy your club, make a choice you say? stick with the bygone era of leather balls and long shorts, or choose to move on? It seems our choice to embrass the changes that we know will help us move forward and become successful is the right one and from experience the choice to try and hold on to the old, bygone dusty trophy cabinet era has not helped one bit, infact probably helps to keep you down, do yourself a favour keep holding on to your past, because unfortunately your club at this time has no future.
only a fan run future. get out a bit more eh?
Seriously again, are you trying to convince me or yourself that this is an answer. Let me tell you now its not, its not a choice, its a forced hand. You have no other option if you don't try this your gone, simple as that. Basically you are buying more time, god knows you have had enough already. Your club is not a business that anyone with any sense would buy, your in the worst possible state that any business can be. The most valuable asset you have is the land.
You have to go to court to fight for the right to even make the offer, why? because you don't satisfy the required credentials to be normally accepted as a serious bidder. Its last chance saloon, stop kidding yourself and get over the jealousy and envy and go and help your club, instead of trying to make yourself feel better by flogging the dead horse antics over here...!
Once you get over the denial you may be able to move on.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.[/p][/quote]where are the trophies[/p][/quote]with all due respect, and I am for once going to try and be serious with you here, how can a supporter of a club that has destroyed itself, over and over advise another on how to keep our house tidy. Your situation down there is unpresidented, without equal, there has never been such a catastrophic failure to run a business/football club by anyone ever before in football history(Im sure thats one part of bygone that you will wanna forget). Why did the supporters allow this to happen? you made choices, you allowed the former owners to destroy your club, make a choice you say? stick with the bygone era of leather balls and long shorts, or choose to move on? It seems our choice to embrass the changes that we know will help us move forward and become successful is the right one and from experience the choice to try and hold on to the old, bygone dusty trophy cabinet era has not helped one bit, infact probably helps to keep you down, do yourself a favour keep holding on to your past, because unfortunately your club at this time has no future.[/p][/quote]only a fan run future. get out a bit more eh?[/p][/quote]Seriously again, are you trying to convince me or yourself that this is an answer. Let me tell you now its not, its not a choice, its a forced hand. You have no other option if you don't try this your gone, simple as that. Basically you are buying more time, god knows you have had enough already. Your club is not a business that anyone with any sense would buy, your in the worst possible state that any business can be. The most valuable asset you have is the land. You have to go to court to fight for the right to even make the offer, why? because you don't satisfy the required credentials to be normally accepted as a serious bidder. Its last chance saloon, stop kidding yourself and get over the jealousy and envy and go and help your club, instead of trying to make yourself feel better by flogging the dead horse antics over here...! Once you get over the denial you may be able to move on. rednwhite72
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8:56pm Sun 27 Jan 13

ottostrasser says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
ottostrasser wrote:
Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that.
Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.
God i hope youre not a Saints fan. Matt never led any pinnacle bid. Matts simply been responding to the actions of Cortese. Like banning him from buying tickets !!

You are clueless
Clueless eh Our Sainted Matt was the figurehead of the Pinnacle .The guys not the sharpest tool in the box and was probably promised the Chairmans job or something.
You remember Pinnacle the company that nearly put the Leibherr family off buying our club ? I think thats where Matts bitterness comes from. I think he would rather Saints were some cuddly club in League One with him and Big Lawrie in charge.Every success that Cortese has puts that dream further away.
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ottostrasser[/bold] wrote: Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that. Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.[/p][/quote]God i hope youre not a Saints fan. Matt never led any pinnacle bid. Matts simply been responding to the actions of Cortese. Like banning him from buying tickets !! You are clueless[/p][/quote]Clueless eh Our Sainted Matt was the figurehead of the Pinnacle .The guys not the sharpest tool in the box and was probably promised the Chairmans job or something. You remember Pinnacle the company that nearly put the Leibherr family off buying our club ? I think thats where Matts bitterness comes from. I think he would rather Saints were some cuddly club in League One with him and Big Lawrie in charge.Every success that Cortese has puts that dream further away. ottostrasser
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9:00pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Tirau Dan says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Sick of this, Sick of Le Tissier
For goodness sake move on
Fialka Off
Very unfair Dan. When it looked like no one was going to step in Matt tried to get something going. It was total rubbish but the motivation was right. Top player poor businessman.
I've said all the good things about him as a player when he put effort in (could have been so much better) and respect his immense talent. The mindset of the throw-in thing was against every fibre of respect for the game... absolutely unforgivable.. not something you'd ever want your kids to even contemplate.
Sorry but the guy is a self effacing media pundit who gets paid for being in the forefront of media and he is dragging club and his former personal glory through the mud... imho
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Sick of this, Sick of Le Tissier For goodness sake move on Fialka Off[/p][/quote]Very unfair Dan. When it looked like no one was going to step in Matt tried to get something going. It was total rubbish but the motivation was right. Top player poor businessman.[/p][/quote]I've said all the good things about him as a player when he put effort in (could have been so much better) and respect his immense talent. The mindset of the throw-in thing was against every fibre of respect for the game... absolutely unforgivable.. not something you'd ever want your kids to even contemplate. Sorry but the guy is a self effacing media pundit who gets paid for being in the forefront of media and he is dragging club and his former personal glory through the mud... imho Tirau Dan
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9:06pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

rednwhite72 wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
rednwhite72 wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.
where are the trophies
with all due respect, and I am for once going to try and be serious with you here, how can a supporter of a club that has destroyed itself, over and over advise another on how to keep our house tidy. Your situation down there is unpresidented, without equal, there has never been such a catastrophic failure to run a business/football club by anyone ever before in football history(Im sure thats one part of bygone that you will wanna forget). Why did the supporters allow this to happen? you made choices, you allowed the former owners to destroy your club, make a choice you say? stick with the bygone era of leather balls and long shorts, or choose to move on? It seems our choice to embrass the changes that we know will help us move forward and become successful is the right one and from experience the choice to try and hold on to the old, bygone dusty trophy cabinet era has not helped one bit, infact probably helps to keep you down, do yourself a favour keep holding on to your past, because unfortunately your club at this time has no future.
only a fan run future. get out a bit more eh?
Seriously again, are you trying to convince me or yourself that this is an answer. Let me tell you now its not, its not a choice, its a forced hand. You have no other option if you don't try this your gone, simple as that. Basically you are buying more time, god knows you have had enough already. Your club is not a business that anyone with any sense would buy, your in the worst possible state that any business can be. The most valuable asset you have is the land.
You have to go to court to fight for the right to even make the offer, why? because you don't satisfy the required credentials to be normally accepted as a serious bidder. Its last chance saloon, stop kidding yourself and get over the jealousy and envy and go and help your club, instead of trying to make yourself feel better by flogging the dead horse antics over here...!
Once you get over the denial you may be able to move on.
SBTGOG,

Ottostrasser is right. Matt Le Tiss did spearhead Pinnacle and was promised the chairman's job. What is your issue?

he was never banned from buying tickets. He can in line with everybody else. He has also been aggravating in the press unnecessarily.

Unless you are in some kind of denial I can't see what your issue is.
[quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.[/p][/quote]where are the trophies[/p][/quote]with all due respect, and I am for once going to try and be serious with you here, how can a supporter of a club that has destroyed itself, over and over advise another on how to keep our house tidy. Your situation down there is unpresidented, without equal, there has never been such a catastrophic failure to run a business/football club by anyone ever before in football history(Im sure thats one part of bygone that you will wanna forget). Why did the supporters allow this to happen? you made choices, you allowed the former owners to destroy your club, make a choice you say? stick with the bygone era of leather balls and long shorts, or choose to move on? It seems our choice to embrass the changes that we know will help us move forward and become successful is the right one and from experience the choice to try and hold on to the old, bygone dusty trophy cabinet era has not helped one bit, infact probably helps to keep you down, do yourself a favour keep holding on to your past, because unfortunately your club at this time has no future.[/p][/quote]only a fan run future. get out a bit more eh?[/p][/quote]Seriously again, are you trying to convince me or yourself that this is an answer. Let me tell you now its not, its not a choice, its a forced hand. You have no other option if you don't try this your gone, simple as that. Basically you are buying more time, god knows you have had enough already. Your club is not a business that anyone with any sense would buy, your in the worst possible state that any business can be. The most valuable asset you have is the land. You have to go to court to fight for the right to even make the offer, why? because you don't satisfy the required credentials to be normally accepted as a serious bidder. Its last chance saloon, stop kidding yourself and get over the jealousy and envy and go and help your club, instead of trying to make yourself feel better by flogging the dead horse antics over here...! Once you get over the denial you may be able to move on.[/p][/quote]SBTGOG, Ottostrasser is right. Matt Le Tiss did spearhead Pinnacle and was promised the chairman's job. What is your issue? he was never banned from buying tickets. He can in line with everybody else. He has also been aggravating in the press unnecessarily. Unless you are in some kind of denial I can't see what your issue is. Thornhill Saint
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9:08pm Sun 27 Jan 13

worried of n e hampshire says...

oi seed how many days is it now?
oi seed how many days is it now? worried of n e hampshire
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9:10pm Sun 27 Jan 13

slugger says...

Why would Nicola agree to "face to face talks"? .......What could Matt bring to the table ....... Micky Fialka's (that bloke who was gonna buy Saints from a bedroom in his mums' house)support too ? ........... Don't get me wrong , I have HUGE respect for Matt as an ex-player but I think he should learn when to button it !
Why would Nicola agree to "face to face talks"? .......What could Matt bring to the table ....... Micky Fialka's (that bloke who was gonna buy Saints from a bedroom in his mums' house)support too ? ........... Don't get me wrong , I have HUGE respect for Matt as an ex-player but I think he should learn when to button it ! slugger
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9:11pm Sun 27 Jan 13

J7junctionseven says...

andysaints007 wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.
where are the trophies
Yours went on e-Bay years ago.
2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul
It's such a shame that FA cup win has actually ended up costing you your club !! ****
No it's not a shame. It's fcuking hilarious!!
FOADP COYR!
Here's a couple of questions relevant to the ongoing debate about "loyalty" and "having the clubs interests at heart" etc
How many season ticket holders do we have this season?
How many of those who have one or more now do we think will renew next season no matter what happens?
I know I will.
STID
[quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.[/p][/quote]where are the trophies[/p][/quote]Yours went on e-Bay years ago.[/p][/quote]2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul[/p][/quote]It's such a shame that FA cup win has actually ended up costing you your club !! ****[/p][/quote]No it's not a shame. It's fcuking hilarious!! FOADP COYR! Here's a couple of questions relevant to the ongoing debate about "loyalty" and "having the clubs interests at heart" etc How many season ticket holders do we have this season? How many of those who have one or more now do we think will renew next season no matter what happens? I know I will. STID J7junctionseven
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9:11pm Sun 27 Jan 13

rednwhite72 says...

sorry I don't get the post above?

Whats 'SBTGOG' ?

:)
sorry I don't get the post above? Whats 'SBTGOG' ? :) rednwhite72
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9:12pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Sick of this, Sick of Le Tissier
For goodness sake move on
Fialka Off
Very unfair Dan. When it looked like no one was going to step in Matt tried to get something going. It was total rubbish but the motivation was right. Top player poor businessman.
I've said all the good things about him as a player when he put effort in (could have been so much better) and respect his immense talent. The mindset of the throw-in thing was against every fibre of respect for the game... absolutely unforgivable.. not something you'd ever want your kids to even contemplate.
Sorry but the guy is a self effacing media pundit who gets paid for being in the forefront of media and he is dragging club and his former personal glory through the mud... imho
I agree with Tiau Dan,

Le Tiss is a notoriously poor businessman (New York, New Yorks anyone?). Ne never admitted it & has sniped ever since. We all; club, ex saints, fans, fans wives and immediate family and friends, have suffered as a result as he has made his feelings known publicly.

I till think he would have been alright about things if this thing with Benali and Cortese had not happened. Shame.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Sick of this, Sick of Le Tissier For goodness sake move on Fialka Off[/p][/quote]Very unfair Dan. When it looked like no one was going to step in Matt tried to get something going. It was total rubbish but the motivation was right. Top player poor businessman.[/p][/quote]I've said all the good things about him as a player when he put effort in (could have been so much better) and respect his immense talent. The mindset of the throw-in thing was against every fibre of respect for the game... absolutely unforgivable.. not something you'd ever want your kids to even contemplate. Sorry but the guy is a self effacing media pundit who gets paid for being in the forefront of media and he is dragging club and his former personal glory through the mud... imho[/p][/quote]I agree with Tiau Dan, Le Tiss is a notoriously poor businessman (New York, New Yorks anyone?). Ne never admitted it & has sniped ever since. We all; club, ex saints, fans, fans wives and immediate family and friends, have suffered as a result as he has made his feelings known publicly. I till think he would have been alright about things if this thing with Benali and Cortese had not happened. Shame. Thornhill Saint
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9:15pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

rednwhite72 wrote:
sorry I don't get the post above?

Whats 'SBTGOG' ?

:)
Sorry quoted wrong *Should have been "SaintsBTGOG".

He knows who he is.
[quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: sorry I don't get the post above? Whats 'SBTGOG' ? :)[/p][/quote]Sorry quoted wrong *Should have been "SaintsBTGOG". He knows who he is. Thornhill Saint
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9:17pm Sun 27 Jan 13

J7junctionseven says...

rednwhite72 wrote:
sorry I don't get the post above?

Whats 'SBTGOG' ?

:)
Saints Before TheGrace Of God is my guess but I'm a bit baffled too
[quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: sorry I don't get the post above? Whats 'SBTGOG' ? :)[/p][/quote]Saints Before TheGrace Of God is my guess but I'm a bit baffled too J7junctionseven
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9:19pm Sun 27 Jan 13

milton road says...

great player and on the few occasions i met and spoke with him he seemed a decent bloke. (MLT).
This all seems very petty and immature and in fairness Cortese runs the club and gets on with doing that. You do not see him engaging with the media often and to be honest you can see why. Just look at the echo's bloggs today.
If I remember rightly ex players and Big Mac had involvement when Crouch and Wilde ran the club and look what a mess that was. On the season when we reached the play offs, they borrowed the money to fund G. Burley's big transfer spend. Which was the money Barclay's fore closed on.
Does anyone really want those days back.
Yes ex players should be given some respect. But leave the running of the club to the man who has seen us from rock bottom to a fighting chance of staying in the PL.
Some have short memories of what has been achieved at this club and yes we had two good managers but who chose them.
great player and on the few occasions i met and spoke with him he seemed a decent bloke. (MLT). This all seems very petty and immature and in fairness Cortese runs the club and gets on with doing that. You do not see him engaging with the media often and to be honest you can see why. Just look at the echo's bloggs today. If I remember rightly ex players and Big Mac had involvement when Crouch and Wilde ran the club and look what a mess that was. On the season when we reached the play offs, they borrowed the money to fund G. Burley's big transfer spend. Which was the money Barclay's fore closed on. Does anyone really want those days back. Yes ex players should be given some respect. But leave the running of the club to the man who has seen us from rock bottom to a fighting chance of staying in the PL. Some have short memories of what has been achieved at this club and yes we had two good managers but who chose them. milton road
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9:19pm Sun 27 Jan 13

slugger says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
rednwhite72 wrote:
sorry I don't get the post above?

Whats 'SBTGOG' ?

:)
Saints Before TheGrace Of God is my guess but I'm a bit baffled too
Saints By The Grace Of God ....... Good name , carp poster (imo)
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: sorry I don't get the post above? Whats 'SBTGOG' ? :)[/p][/quote]Saints Before TheGrace Of God is my guess but I'm a bit baffled too[/p][/quote]Saints By The Grace Of God ....... Good name , carp poster (imo) slugger
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9:21pm Sun 27 Jan 13

rednwhite72 says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
rednwhite72 wrote:
sorry I don't get the post above?

Whats 'SBTGOG' ?

:)
Sorry quoted wrong *Should have been "SaintsBTGOG".

He knows who he is.
yeh got it now, sorry bit slow on the old uptake...:)

Also did someone say 'New york newyork?

Didn't Le Tiss own the 'celebration plaza' down by the london hotel at some point?
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: sorry I don't get the post above? Whats 'SBTGOG' ? :)[/p][/quote]Sorry quoted wrong *Should have been "SaintsBTGOG". He knows who he is.[/p][/quote]yeh got it now, sorry bit slow on the old uptake...:) Also did someone say 'New york newyork? Didn't Le Tiss own the 'celebration plaza' down by the london hotel at some point? rednwhite72
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9:22pm Sun 27 Jan 13

J7junctionseven says...

slugger wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
rednwhite72 wrote:
sorry I don't get the post above?

Whats 'SBTGOG' ?

:)
Saints Before TheGrace Of God is my guess but I'm a bit baffled too
Saints By The Grace Of God ....... Good name , carp poster (imo)
Carp name and poster imo.:o)
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: sorry I don't get the post above? Whats 'SBTGOG' ? :)[/p][/quote]Saints Before TheGrace Of God is my guess but I'm a bit baffled too[/p][/quote]Saints By The Grace Of God ....... Good name , carp poster (imo)[/p][/quote]Carp name and poster imo.:o) J7junctionseven
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9:24pm Sun 27 Jan 13

J7junctionseven says...

rednwhite72 wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
rednwhite72 wrote:
sorry I don't get the post above?

Whats 'SBTGOG' ?

:)
Sorry quoted wrong *Should have been "SaintsBTGOG".

He knows who he is.
yeh got it now, sorry bit slow on the old uptake...:)

Also did someone say 'New york newyork?

Didn't Le Tiss own the 'celebration plaza' down by the london hotel at some point?
Yes with Osman the "comedian" of sorts
[quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: sorry I don't get the post above? Whats 'SBTGOG' ? :)[/p][/quote]Sorry quoted wrong *Should have been "SaintsBTGOG". He knows who he is.[/p][/quote]yeh got it now, sorry bit slow on the old uptake...:) Also did someone say 'New york newyork? Didn't Le Tiss own the 'celebration plaza' down by the london hotel at some point?[/p][/quote]Yes with Osman the "comedian" of sorts J7junctionseven
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9:25pm Sun 27 Jan 13

saintshorse101 says...

ottostrasser wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
ottostrasser wrote: Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that. Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.
God i hope youre not a Saints fan. Matt never led any pinnacle bid. Matts simply been responding to the actions of Cortese. Like banning him from buying tickets !! You are clueless
Clueless eh Our Sainted Matt was the figurehead of the Pinnacle .The guys not the sharpest tool in the box and was probably promised the Chairmans job or something. You remember Pinnacle the company that nearly put the Leibherr family off buying our club ? I think thats where Matts bitterness comes from. I think he would rather Saints were some cuddly club in League One with him and Big Lawrie in charge.Every success that Cortese has puts that dream further away.
i also think that matt put a lot of his own money into that bid, didnt they pay the players wages so they could get the exclusivity agreement?
no one else was going to buy the club it ended up as ml or nothing, we were hours from going out of business.
also matt is not banned from buying tickets and is a season ticket holder! if you are going to have a go at another poster please get your facts right.
as for the liebherr family having no interest this is what NC said after ML died,
club chief executive Nicola Cortese said: "Markus' family are fully supportive of Saints and in fulfilling Markus' legacy.", "The way in which the Saints family has come together to remember Markus has only reiterated my desire to fulfil the promises and plans that he and I made."

looks like nc is a determined man then.


Saintsayer II hope all is well and things are looking better.
[quote][p][bold]ottostrasser[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ottostrasser[/bold] wrote: Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that. Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.[/p][/quote]God i hope youre not a Saints fan. Matt never led any pinnacle bid. Matts simply been responding to the actions of Cortese. Like banning him from buying tickets !! You are clueless[/p][/quote]Clueless eh Our Sainted Matt was the figurehead of the Pinnacle .The guys not the sharpest tool in the box and was probably promised the Chairmans job or something. You remember Pinnacle the company that nearly put the Leibherr family off buying our club ? I think thats where Matts bitterness comes from. I think he would rather Saints were some cuddly club in League One with him and Big Lawrie in charge.Every success that Cortese has puts that dream further away.[/p][/quote]i also think that matt put a lot of his own money into that bid, didnt they pay the players wages so they could get the exclusivity agreement? no one else was going to buy the club it ended up as ml or nothing, we were hours from going out of business. also matt is not banned from buying tickets and is a season ticket holder! if you are going to have a go at another poster please get your facts right. as for the liebherr family having no interest this is what NC said after ML died, club chief executive Nicola Cortese said: "Markus' family are fully supportive of Saints and in fulfilling Markus' legacy.", "The way in which the Saints family has come together to remember Markus has only reiterated my desire to fulfil the promises and plans that he and I made." looks like nc is a determined man then. Saintsayer II hope all is well and things are looking better. saintshorse101
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9:26pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Velleity says...

ottostrasser wrote:
Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that.
Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.
Firstly, I think that Cortese would welcome Matt with open arms if he thought there was anything in it for the club. He's shown previously he has no ego when it came to the Jason Puncheon incident.

However, I think that he's unlikely to agree to a meeting if it's shouted for in public. If there's one thing NC doesn't do, it's work in the media spotlight.

I suspect that if MLT called and asked to meet NC in private (and promised to keep the talks confidential) then NC would do it.

Chances of that happening from MLT's end are, I suspect, pretty poor.

All supposition but squarely based on what I've seen of NC's and MLT's behaviour in public.
[quote][p][bold]ottostrasser[/bold] wrote: Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that. Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.[/p][/quote]Firstly, I think that Cortese would welcome Matt with open arms if he thought there was anything in it for the club. He's shown previously he has no ego when it came to the Jason Puncheon incident. However, I think that he's unlikely to agree to a meeting if it's shouted for in public. If there's one thing NC doesn't do, it's work in the media spotlight. I suspect that if MLT called and asked to meet NC in private (and promised to keep the talks confidential) then NC would do it. Chances of that happening from MLT's end are, I suspect, pretty poor. All supposition but squarely based on what I've seen of NC's and MLT's behaviour in public. Velleity
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9:26pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Lockssmart says...

It's a shame that a Saints hero will probably end off a complete Jackass. Stay with Sky Sports son.
It's a shame that a Saints hero will probably end off a complete Jackass. Stay with Sky Sports son. Lockssmart
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9:27pm Sun 27 Jan 13

slugger says...

rednwhite72 wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
rednwhite72 wrote:
sorry I don't get the post above?

Whats 'SBTGOG' ?

:)
Sorry quoted wrong *Should have been "SaintsBTGOG".

He knows who he is.
yeh got it now, sorry bit slow on the old uptake...:)

Also did someone say 'New york newyork?

Didn't Le Tiss own the 'celebration plaza' down by the london hotel at some point?
I was a member , constantly told that there would be "celebrity" bar staff (soton player ect) .. never happend .......... spoke to him in there once when it was hot enough to boil an egg in the mineral water ..... I suggested the place could do with air-con , he said "10 grand ? .... put up with it" ..... true that .
[quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: sorry I don't get the post above? Whats 'SBTGOG' ? :)[/p][/quote]Sorry quoted wrong *Should have been "SaintsBTGOG". He knows who he is.[/p][/quote]yeh got it now, sorry bit slow on the old uptake...:) Also did someone say 'New york newyork? Didn't Le Tiss own the 'celebration plaza' down by the london hotel at some point?[/p][/quote]I was a member , constantly told that there would be "celebrity" bar staff (soton player ect) .. never happend .......... spoke to him in there once when it was hot enough to boil an egg in the mineral water ..... I suggested the place could do with air-con , he said "10 grand ? .... put up with it" ..... true that . slugger
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9:29pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Velleity says...

Saintsayer II - hope it all went as well as it could have and that you're back in full fighting form. Good to have you back.
Saintsayer II - hope it all went as well as it could have and that you're back in full fighting form. Good to have you back. Velleity
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9:31pm Sun 27 Jan 13

F Fan says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd.
Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland.
If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky!
Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?
We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final.
I think a good chairman is never seen and never heard!
One of the big complaints about NC is that he isn't seen or heard enough - you can't have it both ways.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd. Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland. If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky! Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?[/p][/quote]We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final.[/p][/quote]I think a good chairman is never seen and never heard![/p][/quote]One of the big complaints about NC is that he isn't seen or heard enough - you can't have it both ways. F Fan
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9:32pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

rednwhite72 wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
rednwhite72 wrote:
sorry I don't get the post above?

Whats 'SBTGOG' ?

:)
Sorry quoted wrong *Should have been "SaintsBTGOG".

He knows who he is.
yeh got it now, sorry bit slow on the old uptake...:)

Also did someone say 'New york newyork?

Didn't Le Tiss own the 'celebration plaza' down by the london hotel at some point?
Reswhite72 You learned me.

I was wrong and it Celebration Plaza! While I was checking this popped up. Le Tiss Looks does not too good as director material.

Matthew Paul Le Tissier

"Director Summary

Matthew Paul Le Tissier has 1 current or previous company director or secretary appointments.
Short name - Matthew Le Tissier
Director ID : 904226481
Year of Birth: 1968

Address
10 Blencowe Drive
Chandlers Ford
Eastleigh
Hampshire
England
SO53 4LZ

Company Summary
Company Name Company Status
CELEBRATION PLAZA LIMITED Dissolved"

Never say never but, I will stick with Cortese. Thanks.
[quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: sorry I don't get the post above? Whats 'SBTGOG' ? :)[/p][/quote]Sorry quoted wrong *Should have been "SaintsBTGOG". He knows who he is.[/p][/quote]yeh got it now, sorry bit slow on the old uptake...:) Also did someone say 'New york newyork? Didn't Le Tiss own the 'celebration plaza' down by the london hotel at some point?[/p][/quote]Reswhite72 You learned me. I was wrong and it Celebration Plaza! While I was checking this popped up. Le Tiss Looks does not too good as director material. Matthew Paul Le Tissier "Director Summary Matthew Paul Le Tissier has 1 current or previous company director or secretary appointments. Short name - Matthew Le Tissier Director ID : 904226481 Year of Birth: 1968 Address 10 Blencowe Drive Chandlers Ford Eastleigh Hampshire England SO53 4LZ Company Summary Company Name Company Status CELEBRATION PLAZA LIMITED Dissolved" Never say never but, I will stick with Cortese. Thanks. Thornhill Saint
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9:36pm Sun 27 Jan 13

rednwhite72 says...

slugger wrote:
rednwhite72 wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
rednwhite72 wrote:
sorry I don't get the post above?

Whats 'SBTGOG' ?

:)
Sorry quoted wrong *Should have been "SaintsBTGOG".

He knows who he is.
yeh got it now, sorry bit slow on the old uptake...:)

Also did someone say 'New york newyork?

Didn't Le Tiss own the 'celebration plaza' down by the london hotel at some point?
I was a member , constantly told that there would be "celebrity" bar staff (soton player ect) .. never happend .......... spoke to him in there once when it was hot enough to boil an egg in the mineral water ..... I suggested the place could do with air-con , he said "10 grand ? .... put up with it" ..... true that .
Yeh I seem to recall the "celebrity bar staff" promise, and it being very hot, not as hot as mcluskeys but hot..lol
I remember getting dropped off in a limo by a friend once and walking in I must of caught someones eye, next minute I am sat with 3 young dollies asking who I played for, ofcourse I had to play along, I think I was just breaking through into the SFC first team from the reserves at the time...lol
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: sorry I don't get the post above? Whats 'SBTGOG' ? :)[/p][/quote]Sorry quoted wrong *Should have been "SaintsBTGOG". He knows who he is.[/p][/quote]yeh got it now, sorry bit slow on the old uptake...:) Also did someone say 'New york newyork? Didn't Le Tiss own the 'celebration plaza' down by the london hotel at some point?[/p][/quote]I was a member , constantly told that there would be "celebrity" bar staff (soton player ect) .. never happend .......... spoke to him in there once when it was hot enough to boil an egg in the mineral water ..... I suggested the place could do with air-con , he said "10 grand ? .... put up with it" ..... true that .[/p][/quote]Yeh I seem to recall the "celebrity bar staff" promise, and it being very hot, not as hot as mcluskeys but hot..lol I remember getting dropped off in a limo by a friend once and walking in I must of caught someones eye, next minute I am sat with 3 young dollies asking who I played for, ofcourse I had to play along, I think I was just breaking through into the SFC first team from the reserves at the time...lol rednwhite72
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9:42pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Buddy SFC says...

Very interested in LT's comments , until he asked for a couple of season ticket holders to witness the meeting ......... the meeting is not for the general public , it is between him and NC to sort in private??

I hope they do, I think they won't .......
Very interested in LT's comments , until he asked for a couple of season ticket holders to witness the meeting ......... the meeting is not for the general public , it is between him and NC to sort in private?? I hope they do, I think they won't ....... Buddy SFC
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9:46pm Sun 27 Jan 13

F Fan says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.
I suggest there are a couple of holes in your argument here:

Both sides are gagged in a compromise agreement. NC can no more comment on it than NA can.

No one knows whether the Club or Benali was in the right. But I wouldn't let someone who sued me on my premises - would you?

MLT on Twitter accusing NC of lying and setting the terms of a meeting (witnesses!) is another brick, not an olive branch.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard. As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version. Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement. I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court. I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people. I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them. Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.[/p][/quote]I suggest there are a couple of holes in your argument here: Both sides are gagged in a compromise agreement. NC can no more comment on it than NA can. No one knows whether the Club or Benali was in the right. But I wouldn't let someone who sued me on my premises - would you? MLT on Twitter accusing NC of lying and setting the terms of a meeting (witnesses!) is another brick, not an olive branch. F Fan
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9:53pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!
Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.
I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.
No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?
That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off.

I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason![/p][/quote]Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.[/p][/quote]I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.[/p][/quote]No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?[/p][/quote]That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off. I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:59pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!
Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.
I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.
No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?
That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off.

I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.
Fair enough,

Maybe Osprey Velleity, or........ Echo, any idea? You after all claim to be in the know, publish accounts and stuff.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason![/p][/quote]Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.[/p][/quote]I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.[/p][/quote]No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?[/p][/quote]That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off. I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.[/p][/quote]Fair enough, Maybe Osprey Velleity, or........ Echo, any idea? You after all claim to be in the know, publish accounts and stuff. Thornhill Saint
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10:12pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

F Fan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.
I suggest there are a couple of holes in your argument here:

Both sides are gagged in a compromise agreement. NC can no more comment on it than NA can.

No one knows whether the Club or Benali was in the right. But I wouldn't let someone who sued me on my premises - would you?

MLT on Twitter accusing NC of lying and setting the terms of a meeting (witnesses!) is another brick, not an olive branch.
F Fan as I said I really want to fully believe in this vision.

A CA is not necessarily two way as the organisation paying the money has the upper hand, offer more and buy silence.

The Benali thing I've heard first hand. Again as I said if they can't reach a deal the judge will decide - which will be a matter of public record.

As Matt is in the media spot light it's in both parties interests to bury the hatchet. An independant witness has to be a good thing for what I consider to be very obvious reasons. Transparency in any business is a good thing provided it doesn't compromise the business interests such as a bid for a player.
[quote][p][bold]F Fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard. As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version. Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement. I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court. I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people. I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them. Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.[/p][/quote]I suggest there are a couple of holes in your argument here: Both sides are gagged in a compromise agreement. NC can no more comment on it than NA can. No one knows whether the Club or Benali was in the right. But I wouldn't let someone who sued me on my premises - would you? MLT on Twitter accusing NC of lying and setting the terms of a meeting (witnesses!) is another brick, not an olive branch.[/p][/quote]F Fan as I said I really want to fully believe in this vision. A CA is not necessarily two way as the organisation paying the money has the upper hand, offer more and buy silence. The Benali thing I've heard first hand. Again as I said if they can't reach a deal the judge will decide - which will be a matter of public record. As Matt is in the media spot light it's in both parties interests to bury the hatchet. An independant witness has to be a good thing for what I consider to be very obvious reasons. Transparency in any business is a good thing provided it doesn't compromise the business interests such as a bid for a player. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:16pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:19pm Sun 27 Jan 13

F Fan says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
F Fan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.
I suggest there are a couple of holes in your argument here:

Both sides are gagged in a compromise agreement. NC can no more comment on it than NA can.

No one knows whether the Club or Benali was in the right. But I wouldn't let someone who sued me on my premises - would you?

MLT on Twitter accusing NC of lying and setting the terms of a meeting (witnesses!) is another brick, not an olive branch.
F Fan as I said I really want to fully believe in this vision.

A CA is not necessarily two way as the organisation paying the money has the upper hand, offer more and buy silence.

The Benali thing I've heard first hand. Again as I said if they can't reach a deal the judge will decide - which will be a matter of public record.

As Matt is in the media spot light it's in both parties interests to bury the hatchet. An independant witness has to be a good thing for what I consider to be very obvious reasons. Transparency in any business is a good thing provided it doesn't compromise the business interests such as a bid for a player.
Don't question your good intentions in the slightest. I would have thought a private meeting was the only possibility - witnesses or a record lead to a lack of candour and point scoring.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]F Fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard. As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version. Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement. I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court. I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people. I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them. Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.[/p][/quote]I suggest there are a couple of holes in your argument here: Both sides are gagged in a compromise agreement. NC can no more comment on it than NA can. No one knows whether the Club or Benali was in the right. But I wouldn't let someone who sued me on my premises - would you? MLT on Twitter accusing NC of lying and setting the terms of a meeting (witnesses!) is another brick, not an olive branch.[/p][/quote]F Fan as I said I really want to fully believe in this vision. A CA is not necessarily two way as the organisation paying the money has the upper hand, offer more and buy silence. The Benali thing I've heard first hand. Again as I said if they can't reach a deal the judge will decide - which will be a matter of public record. As Matt is in the media spot light it's in both parties interests to bury the hatchet. An independant witness has to be a good thing for what I consider to be very obvious reasons. Transparency in any business is a good thing provided it doesn't compromise the business interests such as a bid for a player.[/p][/quote]Don't question your good intentions in the slightest. I would have thought a private meeting was the only possibility - witnesses or a record lead to a lack of candour and point scoring. F Fan
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10:24pm Sun 27 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

I have tried Googling for details dmswl613 Limited is the owning company, but is mentioned as being on Probate on the Club website. Very difficult to get a break down of what is involved, but figures are due to be published 31.03.2013
I have tried Googling for details dmswl613 Limited is the owning company, but is mentioned as being on Probate on the Club website. Very difficult to get a break down of what is involved, but figures are due to be published 31.03.2013 OSPREYSAINT
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10:25pm Sun 27 Jan 13

hedge end bob says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote:
Velleity wrote:
three halves wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.
Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
And you are who exactly ?
I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.
but ur friends here post on the news site. so u r guilty by association, and as sad as them
I didn't vote for them to post on The News site, it is not actually a crime so I am not guilty of anything. I posted just once, to point out a certain sock puppet wasn't what he was pretending to be, several Saints posters have been sending sensible advice, well worth paying attention to and several posters on The News site pretend to be Saints when they are nothing of the sort, they usually end up giving themselves away. You should spend your time on there and not on here, unless you can find something sensible to say, I dare you. I doubt you and currently I despise you.
diddems gramps. u r responsible for a quarter of all posts on here. u need 2 get out and meet real people.
Yes and your responsible for the other 75% AND IT'S ALL **** SO FCUK OFF TO POOPEY . Where you belong.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.[/p][/quote]And you are who exactly ?[/p][/quote]I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.[/p][/quote]but ur friends here post on the news site. so u r guilty by association, and as sad as them[/p][/quote]I didn't vote for them to post on The News site, it is not actually a crime so I am not guilty of anything. I posted just once, to point out a certain sock puppet wasn't what he was pretending to be, several Saints posters have been sending sensible advice, well worth paying attention to and several posters on The News site pretend to be Saints when they are nothing of the sort, they usually end up giving themselves away. You should spend your time on there and not on here, unless you can find something sensible to say, I dare you. I doubt you and currently I despise you.[/p][/quote]diddems gramps. u r responsible for a quarter of all posts on here. u need 2 get out and meet real people.[/p][/quote]Yes and your responsible for the other 75% AND IT'S ALL **** SO FCUK OFF TO POOPEY . Where you belong. hedge end bob
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10:28pm Sun 27 Jan 13

hedge end bob says...

*C*R*A*P
*C*R*A*P hedge end bob
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10:28pm Sun 27 Jan 13

ghk230473 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr ghk230473
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10:31pm Sun 27 Jan 13

saintshorse101 says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!
Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.
I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.
No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?
That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off. I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.
Fair enough, Maybe Osprey Velleity, or........ Echo, any idea? You after all claim to be in the know, publish accounts and stuff.
lets not forget that the owners, whoever that may be, converted £33mill of debt/loans into shares last year/season. so make of that what you will but i cant see NC being allowed to make that decision without the approval of the liebherr family.
the one thing about saints that we may not like is how everthing is kept `in house` from transfers to who owns the shares, we should be doing all we can to ensure we dont end up like hat lot down the road! we should ask the awkward questions and we should demand answers! we did not let the dark lord do everything he wanted and withdrew support when he returned, which eventually resulted in the admin.
nc could help alleviate our concerns by doing a fans forum.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason![/p][/quote]Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.[/p][/quote]I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.[/p][/quote]No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?[/p][/quote]That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off. I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.[/p][/quote]Fair enough, Maybe Osprey Velleity, or........ Echo, any idea? You after all claim to be in the know, publish accounts and stuff.[/p][/quote]lets not forget that the owners, whoever that may be, converted £33mill of debt/loans into shares last year/season. so make of that what you will but i cant see NC being allowed to make that decision without the approval of the liebherr family. the one thing about saints that we may not like is how everthing is kept `in house` from transfers to who owns the shares, we should be doing all we can to ensure we dont end up like hat lot down the road! we should ask the awkward questions and we should demand answers! we did not let the dark lord do everything he wanted and withdrew support when he returned, which eventually resulted in the admin. nc could help alleviate our concerns by doing a fans forum. saintshorse101
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10:39pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Baddesley Bill says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
Totally agree....the hatchet buried would be a good thing to see for all concerned.

But let's not get any wires crossed here.

MLT is a true legend from the pitch.

NC is a hardnosed businessman.

I know which one I would prefer to see on the pitch...and I know which one I'd prefer to have in the boardroom. COYR
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]Totally agree....the hatchet buried would be a good thing to see for all concerned. But let's not get any wires crossed here. MLT is a true legend from the pitch. NC is a hardnosed businessman. I know which one I would prefer to see on the pitch...and I know which one I'd prefer to have in the boardroom. COYR Baddesley Bill
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10:39pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Linesman says...

I wonder which of the two faces he wishes to talk to.
I wonder which of the two faces he wishes to talk to. Linesman
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10:42pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Linesman says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
Totally agree....the hatchet buried would be a good thing to see for all concerned.

But let's not get any wires crossed here.

MLT is a true legend from the pitch.

NC is a hardnosed businessman.

I know which one I would prefer to see on the pitch...and I know which one I'd prefer to have in the boardroom. COYR
Agreed, but the businessman has got involved in what happens on the pitch.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]Totally agree....the hatchet buried would be a good thing to see for all concerned. But let's not get any wires crossed here. MLT is a true legend from the pitch. NC is a hardnosed businessman. I know which one I would prefer to see on the pitch...and I know which one I'd prefer to have in the boardroom. COYR[/p][/quote]Agreed, but the businessman has got involved in what happens on the pitch. Linesman
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10:43pm Sun 27 Jan 13

slugger says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate . slugger
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10:47pm Sun 27 Jan 13

andysaints007 says...

Linesman wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
Totally agree....the hatchet buried would be a good thing to see for all concerned.

But let's not get any wires crossed here.

MLT is a true legend from the pitch.

NC is a hardnosed businessman.

I know which one I would prefer to see on the pitch...and I know which one I'd prefer to have in the boardroom. COYR
Agreed, but the businessman has got involved in what happens on the pitch.
'but the businessman has got involved in what happens on the pitch' !!
Please tell us where you get your information from!! Not gossip but facts please.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]Totally agree....the hatchet buried would be a good thing to see for all concerned. But let's not get any wires crossed here. MLT is a true legend from the pitch. NC is a hardnosed businessman. I know which one I would prefer to see on the pitch...and I know which one I'd prefer to have in the boardroom. COYR[/p][/quote]Agreed, but the businessman has got involved in what happens on the pitch.[/p][/quote]'but the businessman has got involved in what happens on the pitch' !! Please tell us where you get your information from!! Not gossip but facts please. andysaints007
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10:47pm Sun 27 Jan 13

slugger says...

Oh .... LInesman is a Skate btw (for the information of those that don't realise).
Oh .... LInesman is a Skate btw (for the information of those that don't realise). slugger
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10:49pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
Problem is the way he put it, in public no less could come across as : ehhhem

FU Cortese
FU Cortese
FU Cortese
FU Cortese

Let's talk with witnesses mate

Hey I am the reasonable one around here right, right!

Sorry, but I can't see Cortese going for it. Brick rather than an olive branch as someone else posted..

MLT needs a different approach if he truly wants reconciliation. After all, it is Cortese's ball. (also someone else's good post)
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]Problem is the way he put it, in public no less could come across as : ehhhem FU Cortese FU Cortese FU Cortese FU Cortese Let's talk with witnesses mate Hey I am the reasonable one around here right, right! Sorry, but I can't see Cortese going for it. Brick rather than an olive branch as someone else posted.. MLT needs a different approach if he truly wants reconciliation. After all, it is Cortese's ball. (also someone else's good post) Thornhill Saint
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10:52pm Sun 27 Jan 13

andysaints007 says...

saintshorse101 wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!
Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.
I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.
No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?
That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off. I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.
Fair enough, Maybe Osprey Velleity, or........ Echo, any idea? You after all claim to be in the know, publish accounts and stuff.
lets not forget that the owners, whoever that may be, converted £33mill of debt/loans into shares last year/season. so make of that what you will but i cant see NC being allowed to make that decision without the approval of the liebherr family.
the one thing about saints that we may not like is how everthing is kept `in house` from transfers to who owns the shares, we should be doing all we can to ensure we dont end up like hat lot down the road! we should ask the awkward questions and we should demand answers! we did not let the dark lord do everything he wanted and withdrew support when he returned, which eventually resulted in the admin.
nc could help alleviate our concerns by doing a fans forum.
Go away and wind your neck in you pratt!!
The way we are run now is the 'proper' way - as a business! If we want to succeed and survive then there is no other way!
Fans forums are a load of old sh*te - especially the type of pr*cks that get involved like Nick Illingsworth etc etc...
[quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason![/p][/quote]Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.[/p][/quote]I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.[/p][/quote]No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?[/p][/quote]That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off. I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.[/p][/quote]Fair enough, Maybe Osprey Velleity, or........ Echo, any idea? You after all claim to be in the know, publish accounts and stuff.[/p][/quote]lets not forget that the owners, whoever that may be, converted £33mill of debt/loans into shares last year/season. so make of that what you will but i cant see NC being allowed to make that decision without the approval of the liebherr family. the one thing about saints that we may not like is how everthing is kept `in house` from transfers to who owns the shares, we should be doing all we can to ensure we dont end up like hat lot down the road! we should ask the awkward questions and we should demand answers! we did not let the dark lord do everything he wanted and withdrew support when he returned, which eventually resulted in the admin. nc could help alleviate our concerns by doing a fans forum.[/p][/quote]Go away and wind your neck in you pratt!! The way we are run now is the 'proper' way - as a business! If we want to succeed and survive then there is no other way! Fans forums are a load of old sh*te - especially the type of pr*cks that get involved like Nick Illingsworth etc etc... andysaints007
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10:53pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Linesman says...

Red n White wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?
More than any of yours. How many days is it now?
cant answer my question
Your comment implies that neither Pardew nor Adkins brought success to us, which would mean that Cortese was right in getting rid of them.
Who do we as fans owe loyalty to though; the club, the chairman, the manager, the players? The only long term (in most cases) is the club, which is run by the chairman, who mostly more money, which is the result of a successful club. Therefore, we should back the chairman as they are the long-term, whereas managers are only for the short-term.
The latest rumour is that NA lost the players, if so who do we owe loyalty to there, the players or the manager? Surely as a skate you would have realised the importance of good money management?! We spent up to £30 million, I doubt Cortese is willing to see it wasted by going straight back down.
If you mean what you say, then I assume you supported Rupert Lowe.

Cortese is like Lowe, in that he can't stop getting involved in football matters instead of financial and business matters.

It is not good business to sack someone who has a good record for success and replacing him with someone who does not understand or speak the language of the majority of the players, and virtually none of the paying customers - the fans.
[quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?[/p][/quote]More than any of yours. How many days is it now?[/p][/quote]cant answer my question[/p][/quote]Your comment implies that neither Pardew nor Adkins brought success to us, which would mean that Cortese was right in getting rid of them. Who do we as fans owe loyalty to though; the club, the chairman, the manager, the players? The only long term (in most cases) is the club, which is run by the chairman, who mostly more money, which is the result of a successful club. Therefore, we should back the chairman as they are the long-term, whereas managers are only for the short-term. The latest rumour is that NA lost the players, if so who do we owe loyalty to there, the players or the manager? Surely as a skate you would have realised the importance of good money management?! We spent up to £30 million, I doubt Cortese is willing to see it wasted by going straight back down.[/p][/quote]If you mean what you say, then I assume you supported Rupert Lowe. Cortese is like Lowe, in that he can't stop getting involved in football matters instead of financial and business matters. It is not good business to sack someone who has a good record for success and replacing him with someone who does not understand or speak the language of the majority of the players, and virtually none of the paying customers - the fans. Linesman
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10:54pm Sun 27 Jan 13

MGRA says...

slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .
I know Matt fairly well. Desperate he is not.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .[/p][/quote]I know Matt fairly well. Desperate he is not. MGRA
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10:54pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Linesman wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
Totally agree....the hatchet buried would be a good thing to see for all concerned.

But let's not get any wires crossed here.

MLT is a true legend from the pitch.

NC is a hardnosed businessman.

I know which one I would prefer to see on the pitch...and I know which one I'd prefer to have in the boardroom. COYR
Agreed, but the businessman has got involved in what happens on the pitch.
So you are giving credit for our two promotions and success thus far in the Prem to Cortese????

A bid unfair on Pards and Adkins.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]Totally agree....the hatchet buried would be a good thing to see for all concerned. But let's not get any wires crossed here. MLT is a true legend from the pitch. NC is a hardnosed businessman. I know which one I would prefer to see on the pitch...and I know which one I'd prefer to have in the boardroom. COYR[/p][/quote]Agreed, but the businessman has got involved in what happens on the pitch.[/p][/quote]So you are giving credit for our two promotions and success thus far in the Prem to Cortese???? A bid unfair on Pards and Adkins. Thornhill Saint
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10:59pm Sun 27 Jan 13

slugger says...

MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .
I know Matt fairly well. Desperate he is not.
That wasn't the question ...... being as you've butted in i'll ask you the same .
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .[/p][/quote]I know Matt fairly well. Desperate he is not.[/p][/quote]That wasn't the question ...... being as you've butted in i'll ask you the same . slugger
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10:59pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Linesman wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
Totally agree....the hatchet buried would be a good thing to see for all concerned.

But let's not get any wires crossed here.

MLT is a true legend from the pitch.

NC is a hardnosed businessman.

I know which one I would prefer to see on the pitch...and I know which one I'd prefer to have in the boardroom. COYR
Agreed, but the businessman has got involved in what happens on the pitch.
The individual who told me about the ownership situation also stated categorically that NC does not try and pick the team. I also have no doubt about that from conversations I had with both managers and players.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]Totally agree....the hatchet buried would be a good thing to see for all concerned. But let's not get any wires crossed here. MLT is a true legend from the pitch. NC is a hardnosed businessman. I know which one I would prefer to see on the pitch...and I know which one I'd prefer to have in the boardroom. COYR[/p][/quote]Agreed, but the businessman has got involved in what happens on the pitch.[/p][/quote]The individual who told me about the ownership situation also stated categorically that NC does not try and pick the team. I also have no doubt about that from conversations I had with both managers and players. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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11:01pm Sun 27 Jan 13

ghk230473 says...

slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .
The echo and matt do appear to be chucking a lot of mud at cortèse, not sure if le tiss has been mis quoted? if he has been tweeting it is a bit cheap.
Le tiss is my era, and although I don't believe he kept us up, I do believe he was a main contributor.
The interview with cortèse and sky seemed a bit of a pr stunt. I feel if cortèse means what he says he and le tiss will agree to disagree and bury their differences. I don't think either need each other, as a fan I would love le tiss involved and it could only be positive.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .[/p][/quote]The echo and matt do appear to be chucking a lot of mud at cortèse, not sure if le tiss has been mis quoted? if he has been tweeting it is a bit cheap. Le tiss is my era, and although I don't believe he kept us up, I do believe he was a main contributor. The interview with cortèse and sky seemed a bit of a pr stunt. I feel if cortèse means what he says he and le tiss will agree to disagree and bury their differences. I don't think either need each other, as a fan I would love le tiss involved and it could only be positive. ghk230473
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11:02pm Sun 27 Jan 13

MGRA says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
Totally agree....the hatchet buried would be a good thing to see for all concerned.

But let's not get any wires crossed here.

MLT is a true legend from the pitch.

NC is a hardnosed businessman.

I know which one I would prefer to see on the pitch...and I know which one I'd prefer to have in the boardroom. COYR
Agreed, but the businessman has got involved in what happens on the pitch.
The individual who told me about the ownership situation also stated categorically that NC does not try and pick the team. I also have no doubt about that from conversations I had with both managers and players.
I also have it 1st hand from someone extremely close to the coal-face that NC has absolutely nothing to do with team selection , and moreover is not the slightest bit interested.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]Totally agree....the hatchet buried would be a good thing to see for all concerned. But let's not get any wires crossed here. MLT is a true legend from the pitch. NC is a hardnosed businessman. I know which one I would prefer to see on the pitch...and I know which one I'd prefer to have in the boardroom. COYR[/p][/quote]Agreed, but the businessman has got involved in what happens on the pitch.[/p][/quote]The individual who told me about the ownership situation also stated categorically that NC does not try and pick the team. I also have no doubt about that from conversations I had with both managers and players.[/p][/quote]I also have it 1st hand from someone extremely close to the coal-face that NC has absolutely nothing to do with team selection , and moreover is not the slightest bit interested. MGRA
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11:03pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .
The echo and matt do appear to be chucking a lot of mud at cortèse, not sure if le tiss has been mis quoted? if he has been tweeting it is a bit cheap.
Le tiss is my era, and although I don't believe he kept us up, I do believe he was a main contributor.
The interview with cortèse and sky seemed a bit of a pr stunt. I feel if cortèse means what he says he and le tiss will agree to disagree and bury their differences. I don't think either need each other, as a fan I would love le tiss involved and it could only be positive.
He did Tweet and it was a bit cheap btw,... sorry, carry on.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .[/p][/quote]The echo and matt do appear to be chucking a lot of mud at cortèse, not sure if le tiss has been mis quoted? if he has been tweeting it is a bit cheap. Le tiss is my era, and although I don't believe he kept us up, I do believe he was a main contributor. The interview with cortèse and sky seemed a bit of a pr stunt. I feel if cortèse means what he says he and le tiss will agree to disagree and bury their differences. I don't think either need each other, as a fan I would love le tiss involved and it could only be positive.[/p][/quote]He did Tweet and it was a bit cheap btw,... sorry, carry on. Thornhill Saint
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11:04pm Sun 27 Jan 13

MGRA says...

slugger wrote:
MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .
I know Matt fairly well. Desperate he is not.
That wasn't the question ...... being as you've butted in i'll ask you the same .
neither needs either's backing. Their paths are currently mutually exclusive.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .[/p][/quote]I know Matt fairly well. Desperate he is not.[/p][/quote]That wasn't the question ...... being as you've butted in i'll ask you the same .[/p][/quote]neither needs either's backing. Their paths are currently mutually exclusive. MGRA
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11:04pm Sun 27 Jan 13

slugger says...

ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .
The echo and matt do appear to be chucking a lot of mud at cortèse, not sure if le tiss has been mis quoted? if he has been tweeting it is a bit cheap.
Le tiss is my era, and although I don't believe he kept us up, I do believe he was a main contributor.
The interview with cortèse and sky seemed a bit of a pr stunt. I feel if cortèse means what he says he and le tiss will agree to disagree and bury their differences. I don't think either need each other, as a fan I would love le tiss involved and it could only be positive.
Good answer imo ........ mountains and molehills really .
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .[/p][/quote]The echo and matt do appear to be chucking a lot of mud at cortèse, not sure if le tiss has been mis quoted? if he has been tweeting it is a bit cheap. Le tiss is my era, and although I don't believe he kept us up, I do believe he was a main contributor. The interview with cortèse and sky seemed a bit of a pr stunt. I feel if cortèse means what he says he and le tiss will agree to disagree and bury their differences. I don't think either need each other, as a fan I would love le tiss involved and it could only be positive.[/p][/quote]Good answer imo ........ mountains and molehills really . slugger
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11:07pm Sun 27 Jan 13

milton road says...

If Cortese is involved on the pitch its in choosing the manager and every chairman has had the final say in that for generations in every club, even if he may seek board opinion.
Ask 'arry wasn't he at spurs last season. Ask Mcleish and so on. For that matter ask Dalgleish.
For the first time this club has money behind it that is substantial and people are still whinging.
If Cortese is involved on the pitch its in choosing the manager and every chairman has had the final say in that for generations in every club, even if he may seek board opinion. Ask 'arry wasn't he at spurs last season. Ask Mcleish and so on. For that matter ask Dalgleish. For the first time this club has money behind it that is substantial and people are still whinging. milton road
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11:08pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .
The echo and matt do appear to be chucking a lot of mud at cortèse, not sure if le tiss has been mis quoted? if he has been tweeting it is a bit cheap.
Le tiss is my era, and although I don't believe he kept us up, I do believe he was a main contributor.
The interview with cortèse and sky seemed a bit of a pr stunt. I feel if cortèse means what he says he and le tiss will agree to disagree and bury their differences. I don't think either need each other, as a fan I would love le tiss involved and it could only be positive.
Good answer imo ........ mountains and molehills really .
Something tells me until they settle the Benali issue and he becomes unbanned, there will never be peace,

While Le Tiss feels his mate is wronged I would suppose he will always have an axe to grind.

For this reason (sorry MGRA) I can't buy the interests mutually exclusive thing for the moment anyways.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .[/p][/quote]The echo and matt do appear to be chucking a lot of mud at cortèse, not sure if le tiss has been mis quoted? if he has been tweeting it is a bit cheap. Le tiss is my era, and although I don't believe he kept us up, I do believe he was a main contributor. The interview with cortèse and sky seemed a bit of a pr stunt. I feel if cortèse means what he says he and le tiss will agree to disagree and bury their differences. I don't think either need each other, as a fan I would love le tiss involved and it could only be positive.[/p][/quote]Good answer imo ........ mountains and molehills really .[/p][/quote]Something tells me until they settle the Benali issue and he becomes unbanned, there will never be peace, While Le Tiss feels his mate is wronged I would suppose he will always have an axe to grind. For this reason (sorry MGRA) I can't buy the interests mutually exclusive thing for the moment anyways. Thornhill Saint
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11:09pm Sun 27 Jan 13

MGRA says...

"I don't believe he kept us up" !?!?
proof that absolute sh1t is posted on this forum !! Possibly the most stupid statement ever posted..... seriously, who else thinks that "Matt did not keep us up" Just what planet were you on when those games/seasons were taking place !?!?
"I don't believe he kept us up" !?!? proof that absolute sh1t is posted on this forum !! Possibly the most stupid statement ever posted..... seriously, who else thinks that "Matt did not keep us up" Just what planet were you on when those games/seasons were taking place !?!? MGRA
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11:11pm Sun 27 Jan 13

MGRA says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .
The echo and matt do appear to be chucking a lot of mud at cortèse, not sure if le tiss has been mis quoted? if he has been tweeting it is a bit cheap.
Le tiss is my era, and although I don't believe he kept us up, I do believe he was a main contributor.
The interview with cortèse and sky seemed a bit of a pr stunt. I feel if cortèse means what he says he and le tiss will agree to disagree and bury their differences. I don't think either need each other, as a fan I would love le tiss involved and it could only be positive.
Good answer imo ........ mountains and molehills really .
Something tells me until they settle the Benali issue and he becomes unbanned, there will never be peace,

While Le Tiss feels his mate is wronged I would suppose he will always have an axe to grind.

For this reason (sorry MGRA) I can't buy the interests mutually exclusive thing for the moment anyways.
fair point.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .[/p][/quote]The echo and matt do appear to be chucking a lot of mud at cortèse, not sure if le tiss has been mis quoted? if he has been tweeting it is a bit cheap. Le tiss is my era, and although I don't believe he kept us up, I do believe he was a main contributor. The interview with cortèse and sky seemed a bit of a pr stunt. I feel if cortèse means what he says he and le tiss will agree to disagree and bury their differences. I don't think either need each other, as a fan I would love le tiss involved and it could only be positive.[/p][/quote]Good answer imo ........ mountains and molehills really .[/p][/quote]Something tells me until they settle the Benali issue and he becomes unbanned, there will never be peace, While Le Tiss feels his mate is wronged I would suppose he will always have an axe to grind. For this reason (sorry MGRA) I can't buy the interests mutually exclusive thing for the moment anyways.[/p][/quote]fair point. MGRA
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11:16pm Sun 27 Jan 13

ghk230473 says...

Le tiss has carved a good career out of his punditry, I may be biased but he's better than the other lot!
I have never met him but read his book and spoke to those that have. He comes across well and loves the club, he never left! I may be sentimental but I think he has a lot to offer us. Just his presence around the stadium would give all a huge lift and he would be a calming influence on the players and accademy lads
Le tiss has carved a good career out of his punditry, I may be biased but he's better than the other lot! I have never met him but read his book and spoke to those that have. He comes across well and loves the club, he never left! I may be sentimental but I think he has a lot to offer us. Just his presence around the stadium would give all a huge lift and he would be a calming influence on the players and accademy lads ghk230473
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11:17pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .
And there in lines the rub slugger. It's not about who's got the biggest ****, it's about the best interests of SFC. There can be no doubt that the clubs interests are best served by a truce.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .[/p][/quote]And there in lines the rub slugger. It's not about who's got the biggest ****, it's about the best interests of SFC. There can be no doubt that the clubs interests are best served by a truce. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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11:24pm Sun 27 Jan 13

ghk230473 says...

MGRA wrote:
"I don't believe he kept us up" !?!?
proof that absolute sh1t is posted on this forum !! Possibly the most stupid statement ever posted..... seriously, who else thinks that "Matt did not keep us up" Just what planet were you on when those games/seasons were taking place !?!?
No I in team, I think you'll find that le tiss does acknowledge the hard work of his team mates. Famous shankly team talk when Liverpool played Man U and a player picked out the strengths of Charlton, best and law. 'If you can't beat 3 players there's got to be something wrong!
Of course le tiss did contribute more than most but to think he did it single handedly shows your ignorance and people right about you!
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: "I don't believe he kept us up" !?!? proof that absolute sh1t is posted on this forum !! Possibly the most stupid statement ever posted..... seriously, who else thinks that "Matt did not keep us up" Just what planet were you on when those games/seasons were taking place !?!?[/p][/quote]No I in team, I think you'll find that le tiss does acknowledge the hard work of his team mates. Famous shankly team talk when Liverpool played Man U and a player picked out the strengths of Charlton, best and law. 'If you can't beat 3 players there's got to be something wrong! Of course le tiss did contribute more than most but to think he did it single handedly shows your ignorance and people right about you! ghk230473
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11:25pm Sun 27 Jan 13

slugger says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .
And there in lines the rub slugger. It's not about who's got the biggest ****, it's about the best interests of SFC. There can be no doubt that the clubs interests are best served by a truce.
To be fair I did load that question ...... my point remains the same though . IMO the press have made an issue about something that matters little in the big scheme .
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .[/p][/quote]And there in lines the rub slugger. It's not about who's got the biggest ****, it's about the best interests of SFC. There can be no doubt that the clubs interests are best served by a truce.[/p][/quote]To be fair I did load that question ...... my point remains the same though . IMO the press have made an issue about something that matters little in the big scheme . slugger
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11:26pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Baddesley Bill says...

MGRA wrote:
"I don't believe he kept us up" !?!?
proof that absolute sh1t is posted on this forum !! Possibly the most stupid statement ever posted..... seriously, who else thinks that "Matt did not keep us up" Just what planet were you on when those games/seasons were taking place !?!?
MGRA...We all know MLT's contribution on the pitch was a contributing factor to us staying up for 2-3 seasons. To be fair...he did have some team mates too.

If you do know MLT well...then you probably take a little less of an independent view than the rest of us here...which is understandable.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: "I don't believe he kept us up" !?!? proof that absolute sh1t is posted on this forum !! Possibly the most stupid statement ever posted..... seriously, who else thinks that "Matt did not keep us up" Just what planet were you on when those games/seasons were taking place !?!?[/p][/quote]MGRA...We all know MLT's contribution on the pitch was a contributing factor to us staying up for 2-3 seasons. To be fair...he did have some team mates too. If you do know MLT well...then you probably take a little less of an independent view than the rest of us here...which is understandable. Baddesley Bill
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11:26pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Francis Benali -v- Southampton Foorball Club Ltd.

Half past twelve at the Technology and Construction Court Friday 12th October 2012. Court 20.Rolls Building

Before Mr. Justice Akenhead.

Anybody have any idea what happened?
Francis Benali -v- Southampton Foorball Club Ltd. Half past twelve at the Technology and Construction Court Friday 12th October 2012. Court 20.Rolls Building Before Mr. Justice Akenhead. Anybody have any idea what happened? Thornhill Saint
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11:26pm Sun 27 Jan 13

MGRA says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Le tiss has carved a good career out of his punditry, I may be biased but he's better than the other lot!
I have never met him but read his book and spoke to those that have. He comes across well and loves the club, he never left! I may be sentimental but I think he has a lot to offer us. Just his presence around the stadium would give all a huge lift and he would be a calming influence on the players and accademy lads
he is a genuine man. its as simple as that.... and a TRUE saint.... a Saints legend and those who have started to erase in their own minds what he did for our club should hang their heads in shame.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Le tiss has carved a good career out of his punditry, I may be biased but he's better than the other lot! I have never met him but read his book and spoke to those that have. He comes across well and loves the club, he never left! I may be sentimental but I think he has a lot to offer us. Just his presence around the stadium would give all a huge lift and he would be a calming influence on the players and accademy lads[/p][/quote]he is a genuine man. its as simple as that.... and a TRUE saint.... a Saints legend and those who have started to erase in their own minds what he did for our club should hang their heads in shame. MGRA
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11:27pm Sun 27 Jan 13

saintshorse101 says...

andysaints007 wrote:
saintshorse101 wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!
Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.
I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.
No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?
That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off. I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.
Fair enough, Maybe Osprey Velleity, or........ Echo, any idea? You after all claim to be in the know, publish accounts and stuff.
lets not forget that the owners, whoever that may be, converted £33mill of debt/loans into shares last year/season. so make of that what you will but i cant see NC being allowed to make that decision without the approval of the liebherr family. the one thing about saints that we may not like is how everthing is kept `in house` from transfers to who owns the shares, we should be doing all we can to ensure we dont end up like hat lot down the road! we should ask the awkward questions and we should demand answers! we did not let the dark lord do everything he wanted and withdrew support when he returned, which eventually resulted in the admin. nc could help alleviate our concerns by doing a fans forum.
Go away and wind your neck in you pratt!! The way we are run now is the 'proper' way - as a business! If we want to succeed and survive then there is no other way! Fans forums are a load of old sh*te - especially the type of pr*cks that get involved like Nick Illingsworth etc etc...
thats a good argument which was very well put!
we are being run the `proper way`? how do you know?
i have no argument with the way the club is being run, except that like some i would like a little bit more info on dealings within the club! i dont want to know about every player the club has looked at or bid for but i would just like to know that we are sound financially and how much control NC has. if the club wont let the fans know then i would like to know why, and a fans forum, though not ideal, is a way to let the fans ask questions , we may not get answers but it would be nice if we did. businesses answer to shareholders and ultimately it consumers, i would just like to know as a consumer who our shareholders are. as for illingsworth and his bunch of numptys, i wouldnt let them within a mile of any forum!
if you are happy to let nc run the club without any accountability then thats your choice. oh and some businesses fail by the way so being run `as a business` is not a guarantee of success and survival.
[quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason![/p][/quote]Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.[/p][/quote]I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.[/p][/quote]No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?[/p][/quote]That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off. I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.[/p][/quote]Fair enough, Maybe Osprey Velleity, or........ Echo, any idea? You after all claim to be in the know, publish accounts and stuff.[/p][/quote]lets not forget that the owners, whoever that may be, converted £33mill of debt/loans into shares last year/season. so make of that what you will but i cant see NC being allowed to make that decision without the approval of the liebherr family. the one thing about saints that we may not like is how everthing is kept `in house` from transfers to who owns the shares, we should be doing all we can to ensure we dont end up like hat lot down the road! we should ask the awkward questions and we should demand answers! we did not let the dark lord do everything he wanted and withdrew support when he returned, which eventually resulted in the admin. nc could help alleviate our concerns by doing a fans forum.[/p][/quote]Go away and wind your neck in you pratt!! The way we are run now is the 'proper' way - as a business! If we want to succeed and survive then there is no other way! Fans forums are a load of old sh*te - especially the type of pr*cks that get involved like Nick Illingsworth etc etc...[/p][/quote]thats a good argument which was very well put! we are being run the `proper way`? how do you know? i have no argument with the way the club is being run, except that like some i would like a little bit more info on dealings within the club! i dont want to know about every player the club has looked at or bid for but i would just like to know that we are sound financially and how much control NC has. if the club wont let the fans know then i would like to know why, and a fans forum, though not ideal, is a way to let the fans ask questions , we may not get answers but it would be nice if we did. businesses answer to shareholders and ultimately it consumers, i would just like to know as a consumer who our shareholders are. as for illingsworth and his bunch of numptys, i wouldnt let them within a mile of any forum! if you are happy to let nc run the club without any accountability then thats your choice. oh and some businesses fail by the way so being run `as a business` is not a guarantee of success and survival. saintshorse101
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11:34pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Thornhill Saint says...

Instead of #askGaston, they could have #AskCortese.

I wonder what he has for breakfast, why he does not dye his temples, and......... why he is so ruthless!
Instead of #askGaston, they could have #AskCortese. I wonder what he has for breakfast, why he does not dye his temples, and......... why he is so ruthless! Thornhill Saint
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11:36pm Sun 27 Jan 13

MGRA says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
MGRA wrote:
"I don't believe he kept us up" !?!?
proof that absolute sh1t is posted on this forum !! Possibly the most stupid statement ever posted..... seriously, who else thinks that "Matt did not keep us up" Just what planet were you on when those games/seasons were taking place !?!?
MGRA...We all know MLT's contribution on the pitch was a contributing factor to us staying up for 2-3 seasons. To be fair...he did have some team mates too.

If you do know MLT well...then you probably take a little less of an independent view than the rest of us here...which is understandable.
there were two seasons where he single handedly kept us up. Those that were there remember the games.... yes he had mates but there is no doubt. Without Matt in those two seasons we would have been relegated. Personally, I value his contributions as a saints player for his footy and also his time he has given to Hope Lodge and the Austistic society over the years with the club and on his own time.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: "I don't believe he kept us up" !?!? proof that absolute sh1t is posted on this forum !! Possibly the most stupid statement ever posted..... seriously, who else thinks that "Matt did not keep us up" Just what planet were you on when those games/seasons were taking place !?!?[/p][/quote]MGRA...We all know MLT's contribution on the pitch was a contributing factor to us staying up for 2-3 seasons. To be fair...he did have some team mates too. If you do know MLT well...then you probably take a little less of an independent view than the rest of us here...which is understandable.[/p][/quote]there were two seasons where he single handedly kept us up. Those that were there remember the games.... yes he had mates but there is no doubt. Without Matt in those two seasons we would have been relegated. Personally, I value his contributions as a saints player for his footy and also his time he has given to Hope Lodge and the Austistic society over the years with the club and on his own time. MGRA
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11:44pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Baddesley Bill says...

MGRA wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Le tiss has carved a good career out of his punditry, I may be biased but he's better than the other lot!
I have never met him but read his book and spoke to those that have. He comes across well and loves the club, he never left! I may be sentimental but I think he has a lot to offer us. Just his presence around the stadium would give all a huge lift and he would be a calming influence on the players and accademy lads
he is a genuine man. its as simple as that.... and a TRUE saint.... a Saints legend and those who have started to erase in their own minds what he did for our club should hang their heads in shame.
I still have the "unbelievable" video mate...and it is still unbeleivably superb!

The issue is one of who makes the decisions....MLT's amazing contribution on the pitch does not make him a decision maker from one end of a twitter account.

We all want him to have some positive input...but if the main honcho don't want it...then he don't want it.

As stated earlier...it's his ball/trainset.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Le tiss has carved a good career out of his punditry, I may be biased but he's better than the other lot! I have never met him but read his book and spoke to those that have. He comes across well and loves the club, he never left! I may be sentimental but I think he has a lot to offer us. Just his presence around the stadium would give all a huge lift and he would be a calming influence on the players and accademy lads[/p][/quote]he is a genuine man. its as simple as that.... and a TRUE saint.... a Saints legend and those who have started to erase in their own minds what he did for our club should hang their heads in shame.[/p][/quote]I still have the "unbelievable" video mate...and it is still unbeleivably superb! The issue is one of who makes the decisions....MLT's amazing contribution on the pitch does not make him a decision maker from one end of a twitter account. We all want him to have some positive input...but if the main honcho don't want it...then he don't want it. As stated earlier...it's his ball/trainset. Baddesley Bill
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12:00am Mon 28 Jan 13

MGRA says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
MGRA wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Le tiss has carved a good career out of his punditry, I may be biased but he's better than the other lot!
I have never met him but read his book and spoke to those that have. He comes across well and loves the club, he never left! I may be sentimental but I think he has a lot to offer us. Just his presence around the stadium would give all a huge lift and he would be a calming influence on the players and accademy lads
he is a genuine man. its as simple as that.... and a TRUE saint.... a Saints legend and those who have started to erase in their own minds what he did for our club should hang their heads in shame.
I still have the "unbelievable" video mate...and it is still unbeleivably superb!

The issue is one of who makes the decisions....MLT's amazing contribution on the pitch does not make him a decision maker from one end of a twitter account.

We all want him to have some positive input...but if the main honcho don't want it...then he don't want it.

As stated earlier...it's his ball/trainset.
the club is the sum of its parts, past and present in my opinion. Without heretige its just a USA baseball game with popcorn, corndogs, flat coke and "batta batta batta saaaaawing batta" chants.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Le tiss has carved a good career out of his punditry, I may be biased but he's better than the other lot! I have never met him but read his book and spoke to those that have. He comes across well and loves the club, he never left! I may be sentimental but I think he has a lot to offer us. Just his presence around the stadium would give all a huge lift and he would be a calming influence on the players and accademy lads[/p][/quote]he is a genuine man. its as simple as that.... and a TRUE saint.... a Saints legend and those who have started to erase in their own minds what he did for our club should hang their heads in shame.[/p][/quote]I still have the "unbelievable" video mate...and it is still unbeleivably superb! The issue is one of who makes the decisions....MLT's amazing contribution on the pitch does not make him a decision maker from one end of a twitter account. We all want him to have some positive input...but if the main honcho don't want it...then he don't want it. As stated earlier...it's his ball/trainset.[/p][/quote]the club is the sum of its parts, past and present in my opinion. Without heretige its just a USA baseball game with popcorn, corndogs, flat coke and "batta batta batta saaaaawing batta" chants. MGRA
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12:26am Mon 28 Jan 13

saintshorse101 says...

MGRA wrote:
ghk230473 wrote: Le tiss has carved a good career out of his punditry, I may be biased but he's better than the other lot! I have never met him but read his book and spoke to those that have. He comes across well and loves the club, he never left! I may be sentimental but I think he has a lot to offer us. Just his presence around the stadium would give all a huge lift and he would be a calming influence on the players and accademy lads
he is a genuine man. its as simple as that.... and a TRUE saint.... a Saints legend and those who have started to erase in their own minds what he did for our club should hang their heads in shame.
i dont think that anyone is erasing what matt did for our club. the team talk for a while used to be `get the ball to matt`, however important matt was though there were other players who did their bit. the shame of it is that the dispute that seems to have cropped up between mlt and nc might be resolved by a 10 min chat and a hand shake. that is what us fans want isnt it? what we shouldnt be doing is picking sides.

on a different note, what signings do people think we will make before the window shuts, if any
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Le tiss has carved a good career out of his punditry, I may be biased but he's better than the other lot! I have never met him but read his book and spoke to those that have. He comes across well and loves the club, he never left! I may be sentimental but I think he has a lot to offer us. Just his presence around the stadium would give all a huge lift and he would be a calming influence on the players and accademy lads[/p][/quote]he is a genuine man. its as simple as that.... and a TRUE saint.... a Saints legend and those who have started to erase in their own minds what he did for our club should hang their heads in shame.[/p][/quote]i dont think that anyone is erasing what matt did for our club. the team talk for a while used to be `get the ball to matt`, however important matt was though there were other players who did their bit. the shame of it is that the dispute that seems to have cropped up between mlt and nc might be resolved by a 10 min chat and a hand shake. that is what us fans want isnt it? what we shouldnt be doing is picking sides. on a different note, what signings do people think we will make before the window shuts, if any saintshorse101
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2:25am Mon 28 Jan 13

st1halo says...

MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .
I know Matt fairly well. Desperate he is not.
Desperate? Maybe not.
We all recognise Matty as the Southampton Legend he is and that is the legacy he left when he retired from football. The danger is that he is undermining his own image with his constant quotes in the media and particularly the "Echo". Imo he needs to have a bit more dignity and withdraw. The media look for a story and, even in the Cortese interview, more time was given to the dispute with MLT than NAs departure. All Matty is doing is feeding them, he's not doing himself or the club any favours.

STID
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .[/p][/quote]I know Matt fairly well. Desperate he is not.[/p][/quote]Desperate? Maybe not. We all recognise Matty as the Southampton Legend he is and that is the legacy he left when he retired from football. The danger is that he is undermining his own image with his constant quotes in the media and particularly the "Echo". Imo he needs to have a bit more dignity and withdraw. The media look for a story and, even in the Cortese interview, more time was given to the dispute with MLT than NAs departure. All Matty is doing is feeding them, he's not doing himself or the club any favours. STID st1halo
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5:01am Mon 28 Jan 13

since 1885 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!
Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.
I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.
No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?
That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off.

I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.
He can't tell you coz he is blagging! He probably's been speaking to the tea lady. What a doughnut!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason![/p][/quote]Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.[/p][/quote]I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.[/p][/quote]No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?[/p][/quote]That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off. I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.[/p][/quote]He can't tell you coz he is blagging! He probably's been speaking to the tea lady. What a doughnut! since 1885
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5:05am Mon 28 Jan 13

since 1885 says...

andysaints007 wrote:
saintshorse101 wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!
Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.
I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.
No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?
That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off. I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.
Fair enough, Maybe Osprey Velleity, or........ Echo, any idea? You after all claim to be in the know, publish accounts and stuff.
lets not forget that the owners, whoever that may be, converted £33mill of debt/loans into shares last year/season. so make of that what you will but i cant see NC being allowed to make that decision without the approval of the liebherr family.
the one thing about saints that we may not like is how everthing is kept `in house` from transfers to who owns the shares, we should be doing all we can to ensure we dont end up like hat lot down the road! we should ask the awkward questions and we should demand answers! we did not let the dark lord do everything he wanted and withdrew support when he returned, which eventually resulted in the admin.
nc could help alleviate our concerns by doing a fans forum.
Go away and wind your neck in you pratt!!
The way we are run now is the 'proper' way - as a business! If we want to succeed and survive then there is no other way!
Fans forums are a load of old sh*te - especially the type of pr*cks that get involved like Nick Illingsworth etc etc...
Best point on here.
[quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason![/p][/quote]Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.[/p][/quote]I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.[/p][/quote]No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?[/p][/quote]That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off. I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.[/p][/quote]Fair enough, Maybe Osprey Velleity, or........ Echo, any idea? You after all claim to be in the know, publish accounts and stuff.[/p][/quote]lets not forget that the owners, whoever that may be, converted £33mill of debt/loans into shares last year/season. so make of that what you will but i cant see NC being allowed to make that decision without the approval of the liebherr family. the one thing about saints that we may not like is how everthing is kept `in house` from transfers to who owns the shares, we should be doing all we can to ensure we dont end up like hat lot down the road! we should ask the awkward questions and we should demand answers! we did not let the dark lord do everything he wanted and withdrew support when he returned, which eventually resulted in the admin. nc could help alleviate our concerns by doing a fans forum.[/p][/quote]Go away and wind your neck in you pratt!! The way we are run now is the 'proper' way - as a business! If we want to succeed and survive then there is no other way! Fans forums are a load of old sh*te - especially the type of pr*cks that get involved like Nick Illingsworth etc etc...[/p][/quote]Best point on here. since 1885
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5:12am Mon 28 Jan 13

since 1885 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
Is that what your "club informant" told you. Ha ha ha, what a first class prat! I think you're a little carried away with yourself mush.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]Is that what your "club informant" told you. Ha ha ha, what a first class prat! I think you're a little carried away with yourself mush. since 1885
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5:15am Mon 28 Jan 13

since 1885 says...

ottostrasser wrote:
Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that.
Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.
Another good shout! Matt should knock the whining on the head. Top bloke Matt but let Cortese get on with running the club.
[quote][p][bold]ottostrasser[/bold] wrote: Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that. Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.[/p][/quote]Another good shout! Matt should knock the whining on the head. Top bloke Matt but let Cortese get on with running the club. since 1885
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6:08am Mon 28 Jan 13

Andy_Germany says...

Why on earth would NC want a face to face meeting with MLT? He is responsible to the club now, not a responsibility to stroke the damaged egos of past players. MLT needs to grow up and shut up. You don't see other ex players from other clubs whinging about their treatment.
Why on earth would NC want a face to face meeting with MLT? He is responsible to the club now, not a responsibility to stroke the damaged egos of past players. MLT needs to grow up and shut up. You don't see other ex players from other clubs whinging about their treatment. Andy_Germany
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7:19am Mon 28 Jan 13

Velleity says...

The core problem is the manner of approach.

Imagine two approaches to a problem:

1) I can sidle up to you in a bar and quietly say, "Listen, mate, can we pop somewhere quiet and have a word about this?"

2) I can walk into the bar and scream at the top of my voice "Oi! I want a word with you!"

Matt appears to be taking option 2.

Twitter is NOT the way to deal with this and - regardless of MLT's reputation, ability, debt owed to hm, etc, etc - this makes him look a little bit foolish.

Do it in private, Matt. All this does is give fodder to the media.
The core problem is the manner of approach. Imagine two approaches to a problem: 1) I can sidle up to you in a bar and quietly say, "Listen, mate, can we pop somewhere quiet and have a word about this?" 2) I can walk into the bar and scream at the top of my voice "Oi! I want a word with you!" Matt appears to be taking option 2. Twitter is NOT the way to deal with this and - regardless of MLT's reputation, ability, debt owed to hm, etc, etc - this makes him look a little bit foolish. Do it in private, Matt. All this does is give fodder to the media. Velleity
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7:52am Mon 28 Jan 13

milton road says...

Matt was a fantastic player who should have had at least 50 england caps.
If he is genuine he wants to talk to Cortese, then arrange it in private and have the integrity afterwards to keep his mouth shut about it.
However well intentioned he put a deal together for the club that held up the Markus process for weeks, then fell apart and became the biggest joke in football at the time, unless of course you were a Saints fan.
Cortese put together a deal that has seen this club rise from the ashes and become something again.
People wonder why Cortese doesn't get into the petty media circus, well I think the last three articles on here show why. I think people gobbing off on twitter shows why.
Cortese may not be perfect, who is? but he is a **** sight better than Lowe, Crouch or Wilde and most of the other mumpties at football clubs.
Whether people like it or not the business side of the club is none of our business. The club like any other provides a product, we either pay to see it or we don't. No different than a cinema for example or theater.
The fact we align to the club and get emotional over it is our choice. Whether it is Barcelona, M Utd, that is the way football is now.
We are swamped by foreigners in our game who give lip service to the badge
but in reality look to build a rep and bigger wage packet to clear off to another club.
You get the exceptions, agreed, like Morgan.
We are the heart and soul of the club agreed. Our passion for the game is what makes it so emotive.
People like the echo play on that. They want Cortese out because he is not user friendly in their case. They will try and use you to create desencion. Just remember if Cortese goes, the dream goes along with the owners.
Many people with very short memories on here. Three and a half years ago our club was basically gone. Its thanks to Cortese and Markus we still have one, no one else.
Matt was a fantastic player who should have had at least 50 england caps. If he is genuine he wants to talk to Cortese, then arrange it in private and have the integrity afterwards to keep his mouth shut about it. However well intentioned he put a deal together for the club that held up the Markus process for weeks, then fell apart and became the biggest joke in football at the time, unless of course you were a Saints fan. Cortese put together a deal that has seen this club rise from the ashes and become something again. People wonder why Cortese doesn't get into the petty media circus, well I think the last three articles on here show why. I think people gobbing off on twitter shows why. Cortese may not be perfect, who is? but he is a **** sight better than Lowe, Crouch or Wilde and most of the other mumpties at football clubs. Whether people like it or not the business side of the club is none of our business. The club like any other provides a product, we either pay to see it or we don't. No different than a cinema for example or theater. The fact we align to the club and get emotional over it is our choice. Whether it is Barcelona, M Utd, that is the way football is now. We are swamped by foreigners in our game who give lip service to the badge but in reality look to build a rep and bigger wage packet to clear off to another club. You get the exceptions, agreed, like Morgan. We are the heart and soul of the club agreed. Our passion for the game is what makes it so emotive. People like the echo play on that. They want Cortese out because he is not user friendly in their case. They will try and use you to create desencion. Just remember if Cortese goes, the dream goes along with the owners. Many people with very short memories on here. Three and a half years ago our club was basically gone. Its thanks to Cortese and Markus we still have one, no one else. milton road
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8:10am Mon 28 Jan 13

St_William says...

Matt's playing career and record goes without saying, but it is now history and quite long past history. Former players and former managers can attract the attention of fans, but that does not give them any right to influence the current management of the club any more than any other fan.

The comment from user, milton road, was very true. If Matt wants a meeting with Nicola Corteses he's more likely to get one if (a) he makes the approach privately, not through the media, and (b) if he has made public insults, he apologises in public first. If his reported comments about Cortese are untrue, then again he should try to deal with the matter private, if he wants to.
Pulic slanging matches do not help the football club, or its fans and often reflect badly on the person shouting the loudest.
Matt's playing career and record goes without saying, but it is now history and quite long past history. Former players and former managers can attract the attention of fans, but that does not give them any right to influence the current management of the club any more than any other fan. The comment from user, milton road, was very true. If Matt wants a meeting with Nicola Corteses he's more likely to get one if (a) he makes the approach privately, not through the media, and (b) if he has made public insults, he apologises in public first. If his reported comments about Cortese are untrue, then again he should try to deal with the matter private, if he wants to. Pulic slanging matches do not help the football club, or its fans and often reflect badly on the person shouting the loudest. St_William
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8:14am Mon 28 Jan 13

ottostrasser says...

milton road wrote:
Matt was a fantastic player who should have had at least 50 england caps.
If he is genuine he wants to talk to Cortese, then arrange it in private and have the integrity afterwards to keep his mouth shut about it.
However well intentioned he put a deal together for the club that held up the Markus process for weeks, then fell apart and became the biggest joke in football at the time, unless of course you were a Saints fan.
Cortese put together a deal that has seen this club rise from the ashes and become something again.
People wonder why Cortese doesn't get into the petty media circus, well I think the last three articles on here show why. I think people gobbing off on twitter shows why.
Cortese may not be perfect, who is? but he is a **** sight better than Lowe, Crouch or Wilde and most of the other mumpties at football clubs.
Whether people like it or not the business side of the club is none of our business. The club like any other provides a product, we either pay to see it or we don't. No different than a cinema for example or theater.
The fact we align to the club and get emotional over it is our choice. Whether it is Barcelona, M Utd, that is the way football is now.
We are swamped by foreigners in our game who give lip service to the badge
but in reality look to build a rep and bigger wage packet to clear off to another club.
You get the exceptions, agreed, like Morgan.
We are the heart and soul of the club agreed. Our passion for the game is what makes it so emotive.
People like the echo play on that. They want Cortese out because he is not user friendly in their case. They will try and use you to create desencion. Just remember if Cortese goes, the dream goes along with the owners.
Many people with very short memories on here. Three and a half years ago our club was basically gone. Its thanks to Cortese and Markus we still have one, no one else.
Superb post. Well said.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Matt was a fantastic player who should have had at least 50 england caps. If he is genuine he wants to talk to Cortese, then arrange it in private and have the integrity afterwards to keep his mouth shut about it. However well intentioned he put a deal together for the club that held up the Markus process for weeks, then fell apart and became the biggest joke in football at the time, unless of course you were a Saints fan. Cortese put together a deal that has seen this club rise from the ashes and become something again. People wonder why Cortese doesn't get into the petty media circus, well I think the last three articles on here show why. I think people gobbing off on twitter shows why. Cortese may not be perfect, who is? but he is a **** sight better than Lowe, Crouch or Wilde and most of the other mumpties at football clubs. Whether people like it or not the business side of the club is none of our business. The club like any other provides a product, we either pay to see it or we don't. No different than a cinema for example or theater. The fact we align to the club and get emotional over it is our choice. Whether it is Barcelona, M Utd, that is the way football is now. We are swamped by foreigners in our game who give lip service to the badge but in reality look to build a rep and bigger wage packet to clear off to another club. You get the exceptions, agreed, like Morgan. We are the heart and soul of the club agreed. Our passion for the game is what makes it so emotive. People like the echo play on that. They want Cortese out because he is not user friendly in their case. They will try and use you to create desencion. Just remember if Cortese goes, the dream goes along with the owners. Many people with very short memories on here. Three and a half years ago our club was basically gone. Its thanks to Cortese and Markus we still have one, no one else.[/p][/quote]Superb post. Well said. ottostrasser
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8:24am Mon 28 Jan 13

Alex297 says...

Red n White wrote:
roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?
I don't have much respect for Le Tissier as a person since he finished his football career. He has taken every opportunity to knock Cortese publicly, on Twitter, TV and even at charity events.
I admire Cortese for his vision for the club. You may have been happy to bounce between the Championship and Premiership, but myself I want to see Saints rise up the table, and it's Cortese's vision to get us into Europe so I respect and like him.
Don't talk like you represent every Saints fan, or are you hoping for an interview from the Echo?
Enough is enough !! Cortese should not be treated like a criminal ! He is trying to bring glory back to the south coast again,NA wouldn't have been successful without his support,club has'nt made any profit yet, now in premirship him and Lieber family can walk away ! Do we want the same faith as our neighbours ?! Certainly not !
[quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: 100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days. 100% like And respect him. 100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion. 0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants). Now why would that be?[/p][/quote]I don't have much respect for Le Tissier as a person since he finished his football career. He has taken every opportunity to knock Cortese publicly, on Twitter, TV and even at charity events. I admire Cortese for his vision for the club. You may have been happy to bounce between the Championship and Premiership, but myself I want to see Saints rise up the table, and it's Cortese's vision to get us into Europe so I respect and like him. Don't talk like you represent every Saints fan, or are you hoping for an interview from the Echo?[/p][/quote]Enough is enough !! Cortese should not be treated like a criminal ! He is trying to bring glory back to the south coast again,NA wouldn't have been successful without his support,club has'nt made any profit yet, now in premirship him and Lieber family can walk away ! Do we want the same faith as our neighbours ?! Certainly not ! Alex297
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8:34am Mon 28 Jan 13

swesaint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!
Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.
I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.
Yes just like in most corporations, the CEO will be the chairman of the board. It is just a figure head and he has no real say in there but needs to be in board meetings.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason![/p][/quote]Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.[/p][/quote]I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.[/p][/quote]Yes just like in most corporations, the CEO will be the chairman of the board. It is just a figure head and he has no real say in there but needs to be in board meetings. swesaint
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8:40am Mon 28 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr
ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .
I know Matt fairly well. Desperate he is not.
Can you use your influence to persuade Matt to do the right think in a sensible manner, with no baggage, on a level playing field, man to man, without any interference from any other source?
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on. Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet. Here's hoping..... Coyr[/p][/quote]ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .[/p][/quote]I know Matt fairly well. Desperate he is not.[/p][/quote]Can you use your influence to persuade Matt to do the right think in a sensible manner, with no baggage, on a level playing field, man to man, without any interference from any other source? OSPREYSAINT
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8:41am Mon 28 Jan 13

swesaint says...

It would be best for Matt if this meeting does not happen. As likable as he is and as good footballer as he was he is not that smart, Nicola would rip him to pieces in that meeting if he tries arguing.
It would be best for Matt if this meeting does not happen. As likable as he is and as good footballer as he was he is not that smart, Nicola would rip him to pieces in that meeting if he tries arguing. swesaint
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8:45am Mon 28 Jan 13

Alex297 says...

milton road wrote:
Matt was a fantastic player who should have had at least 50 england caps.
If he is genuine he wants to talk to Cortese, then arrange it in private and have the integrity afterwards to keep his mouth shut about it.
However well intentioned he put a deal together for the club that held up the Markus process for weeks, then fell apart and became the biggest joke in football at the time, unless of course you were a Saints fan.
Cortese put together a deal that has seen this club rise from the ashes and become something again.
People wonder why Cortese doesn't get into the petty media circus, well I think the last three articles on here show why. I think people gobbing off on twitter shows why.
Cortese may not be perfect, who is? but he is a **** sight better than Lowe, Crouch or Wilde and most of the other mumpties at football clubs.
Whether people like it or not the business side of the club is none of our business. The club like any other provides a product, we either pay to see it or we don't. No different than a cinema for example or theater.
The fact we align to the club and get emotional over it is our choice. Whether it is Barcelona, M Utd, that is the way football is now.
We are swamped by foreigners in our game who give lip service to the badge
but in reality look to build a rep and bigger wage packet to clear off to another club.
You get the exceptions, agreed, like Morgan.
We are the heart and soul of the club agreed. Our passion for the game is what makes it so emotive.
People like the echo play on that. They want Cortese out because he is not user friendly in their case. They will try and use you to create desencion. Just remember if Cortese goes, the dream goes along with the owners.
Many people with very short memories on here. Three and a half years ago our club was basically gone. Its thanks to Cortese and Markus we still have one, no one else.
Brilliantly and simply put my views in to words ,thank you.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Matt was a fantastic player who should have had at least 50 england caps. If he is genuine he wants to talk to Cortese, then arrange it in private and have the integrity afterwards to keep his mouth shut about it. However well intentioned he put a deal together for the club that held up the Markus process for weeks, then fell apart and became the biggest joke in football at the time, unless of course you were a Saints fan. Cortese put together a deal that has seen this club rise from the ashes and become something again. People wonder why Cortese doesn't get into the petty media circus, well I think the last three articles on here show why. I think people gobbing off on twitter shows why. Cortese may not be perfect, who is? but he is a **** sight better than Lowe, Crouch or Wilde and most of the other mumpties at football clubs. Whether people like it or not the business side of the club is none of our business. The club like any other provides a product, we either pay to see it or we don't. No different than a cinema for example or theater. The fact we align to the club and get emotional over it is our choice. Whether it is Barcelona, M Utd, that is the way football is now. We are swamped by foreigners in our game who give lip service to the badge but in reality look to build a rep and bigger wage packet to clear off to another club. You get the exceptions, agreed, like Morgan. We are the heart and soul of the club agreed. Our passion for the game is what makes it so emotive. People like the echo play on that. They want Cortese out because he is not user friendly in their case. They will try and use you to create desencion. Just remember if Cortese goes, the dream goes along with the owners. Many people with very short memories on here. Three and a half years ago our club was basically gone. Its thanks to Cortese and Markus we still have one, no one else.[/p][/quote]Brilliantly and simply put my views in to words ,thank you. Alex297
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8:45am Mon 28 Jan 13

kinkyboots09 says...

Matt take your good mate Micky Fiasco with you,,,that would be a right giggle now would'nt it xx
Matt take your good mate Micky Fiasco with you,,,that would be a right giggle now would'nt it xx kinkyboots09
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8:46am Mon 28 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

MGRA wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
MGRA wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Le tiss has carved a good career out of his punditry, I may be biased but he's better than the other lot!
I have never met him but read his book and spoke to those that have. He comes across well and loves the club, he never left! I may be sentimental but I think he has a lot to offer us. Just his presence around the stadium would give all a huge lift and he would be a calming influence on the players and accademy lads
he is a genuine man. its as simple as that.... and a TRUE saint.... a Saints legend and those who have started to erase in their own minds what he did for our club should hang their heads in shame.
I still have the "unbelievable" video mate...and it is still unbeleivably superb!

The issue is one of who makes the decisions....MLT's amazing contribution on the pitch does not make him a decision maker from one end of a twitter account.

We all want him to have some positive input...but if the main honcho don't want it...then he don't want it.

As stated earlier...it's his ball/trainset.
the club is the sum of its parts, past and present in my opinion. Without heretige its just a USA baseball game with popcorn, corndogs, flat coke and "batta batta batta saaaaawing batta" chants.
A quick question, for you only, do you think Nicola Cortese is a Saints supporter, on top of everything else, what do you actually know about his feelings at the games that he attends?
Do you think he wants us to win every game?
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Le tiss has carved a good career out of his punditry, I may be biased but he's better than the other lot! I have never met him but read his book and spoke to those that have. He comes across well and loves the club, he never left! I may be sentimental but I think he has a lot to offer us. Just his presence around the stadium would give all a huge lift and he would be a calming influence on the players and accademy lads[/p][/quote]he is a genuine man. its as simple as that.... and a TRUE saint.... a Saints legend and those who have started to erase in their own minds what he did for our club should hang their heads in shame.[/p][/quote]I still have the "unbelievable" video mate...and it is still unbeleivably superb! The issue is one of who makes the decisions....MLT's amazing contribution on the pitch does not make him a decision maker from one end of a twitter account. We all want him to have some positive input...but if the main honcho don't want it...then he don't want it. As stated earlier...it's his ball/trainset.[/p][/quote]the club is the sum of its parts, past and present in my opinion. Without heretige its just a USA baseball game with popcorn, corndogs, flat coke and "batta batta batta saaaaawing batta" chants.[/p][/quote]A quick question, for you only, do you think Nicola Cortese is a Saints supporter, on top of everything else, what do you actually know about his feelings at the games that he attends? Do you think he wants us to win every game? OSPREYSAINT
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8:48am Mon 28 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

since 1885 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!
Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.
I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.
No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?
That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off.

I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.
He can't tell you coz he is blagging! He probably's been speaking to the tea lady. What a doughnut!
How many sign ons have you actually got? Quite impressive.
[quote][p][bold]since 1885[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason![/p][/quote]Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.[/p][/quote]I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.[/p][/quote]No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?[/p][/quote]That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off. I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.[/p][/quote]He can't tell you coz he is blagging! He probably's been speaking to the tea lady. What a doughnut![/p][/quote]How many sign ons have you actually got? Quite impressive. OSPREYSAINT
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9:02am Mon 28 Jan 13

saintly sanity says...

It was surprising that Nigel Adkins was dismissed; but I am sure he was suitably compensated and that he will find another managerial position in British Football. Almost all football Managers get sacked at some stage in their careers and their compensation packages at the highest levels reflect this. Limit your tears.

What nonsense is this about Matt Le Tissier? Le Tissier was undoubtedly a great footballer for Southampton and we all honour and respect that – and he has gone on to carve a career as a game pundit. That is all he is, a pundit now, a good one but still merely a pundit.

Why should owners meet pundits? Cortese is an unabashed businessman who controls the finances and the destinies at Southampton - he is answerable to his Board and to the ultimate owners and it is they who have the right to comment. I have no more influence on SFC than I do Tescos, and quite right too, I have bought products and services from both but I can but from others if I am =m unhappy.

Mr Cortese will be judged by his results and we will simply have to wait and see what happens next – I wish him well.
It was surprising that Nigel Adkins was dismissed; but I am sure he was suitably compensated and that he will find another managerial position in British Football. Almost all football Managers get sacked at some stage in their careers and their compensation packages at the highest levels reflect this. Limit your tears. What nonsense is this about Matt Le Tissier? Le Tissier was undoubtedly a great footballer for Southampton and we all honour and respect that – and he has gone on to carve a career as a game pundit. That is all he is, a pundit now, a good one but still merely a pundit. Why should owners meet pundits? Cortese is an unabashed businessman who controls the finances and the destinies at Southampton - he is answerable to his Board and to the ultimate owners and it is they who have the right to comment. I have no more influence on SFC than I do Tescos, and quite right too, I have bought products and services from both but I can but from others if I am =m unhappy. Mr Cortese will be judged by his results and we will simply have to wait and see what happens next – I wish him well. saintly sanity
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9:09am Mon 28 Jan 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Alex297 wrote:
milton road wrote:
Matt was a fantastic player who should have had at least 50 england caps.
If he is genuine he wants to talk to Cortese, then arrange it in private and have the integrity afterwards to keep his mouth shut about it.
However well intentioned he put a deal together for the club that held up the Markus process for weeks, then fell apart and became the biggest joke in football at the time, unless of course you were a Saints fan.
Cortese put together a deal that has seen this club rise from the ashes and become something again.
People wonder why Cortese doesn't get into the petty media circus, well I think the last three articles on here show why. I think people gobbing off on twitter shows why.
Cortese may not be perfect, who is? but he is a **** sight better than Lowe, Crouch or Wilde and most of the other mumpties at football clubs.
Whether people like it or not the business side of the club is none of our business. The club like any other provides a product, we either pay to see it or we don't. No different than a cinema for example or theater.
The fact we align to the club and get emotional over it is our choice. Whether it is Barcelona, M Utd, that is the way football is now.
We are swamped by foreigners in our game who give lip service to the badge
but in reality look to build a rep and bigger wage packet to clear off to another club.
You get the exceptions, agreed, like Morgan.
We are the heart and soul of the club agreed. Our passion for the game is what makes it so emotive.
People like the echo play on that. They want Cortese out because he is not user friendly in their case. They will try and use you to create desencion. Just remember if Cortese goes, the dream goes along with the owners.
Many people with very short memories on here. Three and a half years ago our club was basically gone. Its thanks to Cortese and Markus we still have one, no one else.
Brilliantly and simply put my views in to words ,thank you.
Yes, good post, Milton. Although I must take issue with you regarding being 'swamped by foreigners ....'.

Of course, like every club, there are and have been Saints players who are not English and who care nothing for the club, but there are many other foreign players who don't fit that mould - Ivan Golac, Marian Pahars, Michael Svensson, Claus Lundekvam, and, yes, Morgan Schneiderlin, for example, and plenty of English players who were never committed.

Anyway, you're dead right about the rest. Alas, the class Matt showed on the pitch hasn't been matched recently off it.
[quote][p][bold]Alex297[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Matt was a fantastic player who should have had at least 50 england caps. If he is genuine he wants to talk to Cortese, then arrange it in private and have the integrity afterwards to keep his mouth shut about it. However well intentioned he put a deal together for the club that held up the Markus process for weeks, then fell apart and became the biggest joke in football at the time, unless of course you were a Saints fan. Cortese put together a deal that has seen this club rise from the ashes and become something again. People wonder why Cortese doesn't get into the petty media circus, well I think the last three articles on here show why. I think people gobbing off on twitter shows why. Cortese may not be perfect, who is? but he is a **** sight better than Lowe, Crouch or Wilde and most of the other mumpties at football clubs. Whether people like it or not the business side of the club is none of our business. The club like any other provides a product, we either pay to see it or we don't. No different than a cinema for example or theater. The fact we align to the club and get emotional over it is our choice. Whether it is Barcelona, M Utd, that is the way football is now. We are swamped by foreigners in our game who give lip service to the badge but in reality look to build a rep and bigger wage packet to clear off to another club. You get the exceptions, agreed, like Morgan. We are the heart and soul of the club agreed. Our passion for the game is what makes it so emotive. People like the echo play on that. They want Cortese out because he is not user friendly in their case. They will try and use you to create desencion. Just remember if Cortese goes, the dream goes along with the owners. Many people with very short memories on here. Three and a half years ago our club was basically gone. Its thanks to Cortese and Markus we still have one, no one else.[/p][/quote]Brilliantly and simply put my views in to words ,thank you.[/p][/quote]Yes, good post, Milton. Although I must take issue with you regarding being 'swamped by foreigners ....'. Of course, like every club, there are and have been Saints players who are not English and who care nothing for the club, but there are many other foreign players who don't fit that mould - Ivan Golac, Marian Pahars, Michael Svensson, Claus Lundekvam, and, yes, Morgan Schneiderlin, for example, and plenty of English players who were never committed. Anyway, you're dead right about the rest. Alas, the class Matt showed on the pitch hasn't been matched recently off it. Strasbourg Saint
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9:11am Mon 28 Jan 13

since 1885 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Thornhill Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!
Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.
I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.
No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?
That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off.

I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.
He can't tell you coz he is blagging! He probably's been speaking to the tea lady. What a doughnut!
How many sign ons have you actually got? Quite impressive.
I've got one but you obviously have a few OspreySeed. You can't give us a name coz there ain't one. You've been rumbled sunshine! You knew if anybody asked for a name you could say that you have to protect his identity. A lot of carry on for a porky to impress the posters on here. Billy lad you better bring in another of your usernames to back you up. Ha ha ha!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]since 1885[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason![/p][/quote]Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.[/p][/quote]I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.[/p][/quote]No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?[/p][/quote]That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off. I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.[/p][/quote]He can't tell you coz he is blagging! He probably's been speaking to the tea lady. What a doughnut![/p][/quote]How many sign ons have you actually got? Quite impressive.[/p][/quote]I've got one but you obviously have a few OspreySeed. You can't give us a name coz there ain't one. You've been rumbled sunshine! You knew if anybody asked for a name you could say that you have to protect his identity. A lot of carry on for a porky to impress the posters on here. Billy lad you better bring in another of your usernames to back you up. Ha ha ha! since 1885
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9:21am Mon 28 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

since 1885 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
Is that what your "club informant" told you. Ha ha ha, what a first class prat! I think you're a little carried away with yourself mush.
Hello Kent me old mate. How the devil are you?
[quote][p][bold]since 1885[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]Is that what your "club informant" told you. Ha ha ha, what a first class prat! I think you're a little carried away with yourself mush.[/p][/quote]Hello Kent me old mate. How the devil are you? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:21am Mon 28 Jan 13

milton road says...

Strass I was talking foreign players in today's market and generally, not so much Saints. Sorry maybe i should of made that clearer.
Strass I was talking foreign players in today's market and generally, not so much Saints. Sorry maybe i should of made that clearer. milton road
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9:22am Mon 28 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

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9:22am Mon 28 Jan 13

Alicesdad says...

saintly sanity wrote:
It was surprising that Nigel Adkins was dismissed; but I am sure he was suitably compensated and that he will find another managerial position in British Football. Almost all football Managers get sacked at some stage in their careers and their compensation packages at the highest levels reflect this. Limit your tears.

What nonsense is this about Matt Le Tissier? Le Tissier was undoubtedly a great footballer for Southampton and we all honour and respect that – and he has gone on to carve a career as a game pundit. That is all he is, a pundit now, a good one but still merely a pundit.

Why should owners meet pundits? Cortese is an unabashed businessman who controls the finances and the destinies at Southampton - he is answerable to his Board and to the ultimate owners and it is they who have the right to comment. I have no more influence on SFC than I do Tescos, and quite right too, I have bought products and services from both but I can but from others if I am =m unhappy.

Mr Cortese will be judged by his results and we will simply have to wait and see what happens next – I wish him well.
Although it sounds blunt this post pretty much tells it as it is.

It does appear that MLT talks to the press about trivia most of the time and it gets blown up, especially by the Echo.

Either the Echo is looking for a non story or MLT is seeking publicity.

It's amazing that this is seen as even remotely important to be newsworthy. If he was at school the teacher would say "Aw Diddums" and tell him to get on with his work.
[quote][p][bold]saintly sanity[/bold] wrote: It was surprising that Nigel Adkins was dismissed; but I am sure he was suitably compensated and that he will find another managerial position in British Football. Almost all football Managers get sacked at some stage in their careers and their compensation packages at the highest levels reflect this. Limit your tears. What nonsense is this about Matt Le Tissier? Le Tissier was undoubtedly a great footballer for Southampton and we all honour and respect that – and he has gone on to carve a career as a game pundit. That is all he is, a pundit now, a good one but still merely a pundit. Why should owners meet pundits? Cortese is an unabashed businessman who controls the finances and the destinies at Southampton - he is answerable to his Board and to the ultimate owners and it is they who have the right to comment. I have no more influence on SFC than I do Tescos, and quite right too, I have bought products and services from both but I can but from others if I am =m unhappy. Mr Cortese will be judged by his results and we will simply have to wait and see what happens next – I wish him well.[/p][/quote]Although it sounds blunt this post pretty much tells it as it is. It does appear that MLT talks to the press about trivia most of the time and it gets blown up, especially by the Echo. Either the Echo is looking for a non story or MLT is seeking publicity. It's amazing that this is seen as even remotely important to be newsworthy. If he was at school the teacher would say "Aw Diddums" and tell him to get on with his work. Alicesdad
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9:22am Mon 28 Jan 13

since 1885 says...

Seed Osprey whoever you are. If you really did have a contact high up i don't think he'd appreciate you coming on a Saints thread blabbing all these club secrets he'd have told you on the hush. Would he really risk his job to tell you stuff that you would then blab on here! Even if you don't name him you're still stiching him up! Just doesn't add up. How can I put it Billy, liar liar panties on fire! About sums it up sunshine!
Seed Osprey whoever you are. If you really did have a contact high up i don't think he'd appreciate you coming on a Saints thread blabbing all these club secrets he'd have told you on the hush. Would he really risk his job to tell you stuff that you would then blab on here! Even if you don't name him you're still stiching him up! Just doesn't add up. How can I put it Billy, liar liar panties on fire! About sums it up sunshine! since 1885
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9:25am Mon 28 Jan 13

Ozmosis says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!
Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.
I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.
That would surely be a conflict of interest?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason![/p][/quote]Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.[/p][/quote]I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.[/p][/quote]That would surely be a conflict of interest? Ozmosis
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9:26am Mon 28 Jan 13

since 1885 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.
Is that what your "club informant" told you. Ha ha ha, what a first class prat! I think you're a little carried away with yourself mush.
Hello Kent me old mate. How the devil are you?
Change the subject before people start wondering ain't that right Billy! Tell us the stuff you have on Watergate. Go on Billy or do we have to twist your arm to get it out of you. The only contact you might have is in your eyes.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]since 1885[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah. I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.[/p][/quote]Is that what your "club informant" told you. Ha ha ha, what a first class prat! I think you're a little carried away with yourself mush.[/p][/quote]Hello Kent me old mate. How the devil are you?[/p][/quote]Change the subject before people start wondering ain't that right Billy! Tell us the stuff you have on Watergate. Go on Billy or do we have to twist your arm to get it out of you. The only contact you might have is in your eyes. since 1885
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9:29am Mon 28 Jan 13

three halves says...

since 1885 wrote:
Seed Osprey whoever you are. If you really did have a contact high up i don't think he'd appreciate you coming on a Saints thread blabbing all these club secrets he'd have told you on the hush. Would he really risk his job to tell you stuff that you would then blab on here! Even if you don't name him you're still stiching him up! Just doesn't add up. How can I put it Billy, liar liar panties on fire! About sums it up sunshine!
Excellent post.
[quote][p][bold]since 1885[/bold] wrote: Seed Osprey whoever you are. If you really did have a contact high up i don't think he'd appreciate you coming on a Saints thread blabbing all these club secrets he'd have told you on the hush. Would he really risk his job to tell you stuff that you would then blab on here! Even if you don't name him you're still stiching him up! Just doesn't add up. How can I put it Billy, liar liar panties on fire! About sums it up sunshine![/p][/quote]Excellent post. three halves
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9:32am Mon 28 Jan 13

since 1885 says...

He can't explain why it's alright to blab on a thread but not to name his source. I bet you tell people Mark Dennis was a drinking buddy of yours. It's a little known fact but Billy was in the SAS, ain't that right! One minute you're saying that your informant says Cortese is a control freak the next minute you're on here telling the world. You can't like your contact very much!
He can't explain why it's alright to blab on a thread but not to name his source. I bet you tell people Mark Dennis was a drinking buddy of yours. It's a little known fact but Billy was in the SAS, ain't that right! One minute you're saying that your informant says Cortese is a control freak the next minute you're on here telling the world. You can't like your contact very much! since 1885
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9:32am Mon 28 Jan 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

three halves wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Seed Osprey whoever you are. If you really did have a contact high up i don't think he'd appreciate you coming on a Saints thread blabbing all these club secrets he'd have told you on the hush. Would he really risk his job to tell you stuff that you would then blab on here! Even if you don't name him you're still stiching him up! Just doesn't add up. How can I put it Billy, liar liar panties on fire! About sums it up sunshine!
Excellent post.
Replying to yourself again Kent?

You off to the High Court on Wednesday? Should be fun. Saints beat Manure and the judge shuts the skunts down all in one day. What joy.
[quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]since 1885[/bold] wrote: Seed Osprey whoever you are. If you really did have a contact high up i don't think he'd appreciate you coming on a Saints thread blabbing all these club secrets he'd have told you on the hush. Would he really risk his job to tell you stuff that you would then blab on here! Even if you don't name him you're still stiching him up! Just doesn't add up. How can I put it Billy, liar liar panties on fire! About sums it up sunshine![/p][/quote]Excellent post.[/p][/quote]Replying to yourself again Kent? You off to the High Court on Wednesday? Should be fun. Saints beat Manure and the judge shuts the skunts down all in one day. What joy. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:37am Mon 28 Jan 13

since 1885 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
three halves wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Seed Osprey whoever you are. If you really did have a contact high up i don't think he'd appreciate you coming on a Saints thread blabbing all these club secrets he'd have told you on the hush. Would he really risk his job to tell you stuff that you would then blab on here! Even if you don't name him you're still stiching him up! Just doesn't add up. How can I put it Billy, liar liar panties on fire! About sums it up sunshine!
Excellent post.
Replying to yourself again Kent?

You off to the High Court on Wednesday? Should be fun. Saints beat Manure and the judge shuts the skunts down all in one day. What joy.
Again I'll ask.! Why would someone high up tell you anything sensitive and why if this geezer is a m8 would you come on here and tell everybody?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]three halves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]since 1885[/bold] wrote: Seed Osprey whoever you are. If you really did have a contact high up i don't think he'd appreciate you coming on a Saints thread blabbing all these club secrets he'd have told you on the hush. Would he really risk his job to tell you stuff that you would then blab on here! Even if you don't name him you're still stiching him up! Just doesn't add up. How can I put it Billy, liar liar panties on fire! About sums it up sunshine![/p][/quote]Excellent post.[/p][/quote]Replying to yourself again Kent? You off to the High Court on Wednesday? Should be fun. Saints beat Manure and the judge shuts the skunts down all in one day. What joy.[/p][/quote]Again I'll ask.! Why would someone high up tell you anything sensitive and why if this geezer is a m8 would you come on here and tell everybody? since 1885
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9:40am Mon 28 Jan 13

since 1885 says...

You babble on as if your opinion is more important than all the others. You're a fan like the rest of us so calm down Billy. Telling people you have a high up contact in the club is you trying to give it the big un. I think this thread has gone to your head mush. High up contact, soppy sod!
You babble on as if your opinion is more important than all the others. You're a fan like the rest of us so calm down Billy. Telling people you have a high up contact in the club is you trying to give it the big un. I think this thread has gone to your head mush. High up contact, soppy sod! since 1885
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9:47am Mon 28 Jan 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

MGRA wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
MGRA wrote:
"I don't believe he kept us up" !?!?
proof that absolute sh1t is posted on this forum !! Possibly the most stupid statement ever posted..... seriously, who else thinks that "Matt did not keep us up" Just what planet were you on when those games/seasons were taking place !?!?
MGRA...We all know MLT's contribution on the pitch was a contributing factor to us staying up for 2-3 seasons. To be fair...he did have some team mates too.

If you do know MLT well...then you probably take a little less of an independent view than the rest of us here...which is understandable.
there were two seasons where he single handedly kept us up. Those that were there remember the games.... yes he had mates but there is no doubt. Without Matt in those two seasons we would have been relegated. Personally, I value his contributions as a saints player for his footy and also his time he has given to Hope Lodge and the Austistic society over the years with the club and on his own time.
Sorry to belatedly but in, but I can't let this one go.

It was GHK who you, MGRA, were responding to, referring to his very valid opinion that he didn't believe Matt kept us up singlehandedly, and in doing so, describing as 'proof' that absolute sh!t is posted on this forum. Well, you're right about that bit, although many of us would argue that the 'sh!t' posts come from those who claim to know more than they do about stuff like, off the top of my head, last autumn's injury to Ramirez.

So, let me back GHK up on this one. Of course Matt's contributions were amazing and probably made the difference on many occasions. Swap Matt for an average journeyman attacking, creative midfielder/striker and we may well have gone down on one of those occasions. However, if you believe that he singlehandedly kept us up and if you really DO know Matt as well as you claim, I'm sure he will have corrected you by now and reminded you that plenty of other players contributed to the club's survival (and successes) during his playing days.

So, on this particular series of posts, MGRA, I think you have singlehandedly posted some absolute sh!t.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: "I don't believe he kept us up" !?!? proof that absolute sh1t is posted on this forum !! Possibly the most stupid statement ever posted..... seriously, who else thinks that "Matt did not keep us up" Just what planet were you on when those games/seasons were taking place !?!?[/p][/quote]MGRA...We all know MLT's contribution on the pitch was a contributing factor to us staying up for 2-3 seasons. To be fair...he did have some team mates too. If you do know MLT well...then you probably take a little less of an independent view than the rest of us here...which is understandable.[/p][/quote]there were two seasons where he single handedly kept us up. Those that were there remember the games.... yes he had mates but there is no doubt. Without Matt in those two seasons we would have been relegated. Personally, I value his contributions as a saints player for his footy and also his time he has given to Hope Lodge and the Austistic society over the years with the club and on his own time.[/p][/quote]Sorry to belatedly but in, but I can't let this one go. It was GHK who you, MGRA, were responding to, referring to his very valid opinion that he didn't believe Matt kept us up singlehandedly, and in doing so, describing as 'proof' that absolute sh!t is posted on this forum. Well, you're right about that bit, although many of us would argue that the 'sh!t' posts come from those who claim to know more than they do about stuff like, off the top of my head, last autumn's injury to Ramirez. So, let me back GHK up on this one. Of course Matt's contributions were amazing and probably made the difference on many occasions. Swap Matt for an average journeyman attacking, creative midfielder/striker and we may well have gone down on one of those occasions. However, if you believe that he singlehandedly kept us up and if you really DO know Matt as well as you claim, I'm sure he will have corrected you by now and reminded you that plenty of other players contributed to the club's survival (and successes) during his playing days. So, on this particular series of posts, MGRA, I think you have singlehandedly posted some absolute sh!t. Strasbourg Saint
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9:47am Mon 28 Jan 13

since 1885 says...

No answer. Thanks for proving my point, you're a LIAR! You got found out son, no hard feelings mush!
No answer. Thanks for proving my point, you're a LIAR! You got found out son, no hard feelings mush! since 1885
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10:07am Mon 28 Jan 13

St Retford says...

I do hope this meeting happens, and soon. Nicola will turn up on his own and Matt can bring his 'witnesses' and this pointless and distracting sideshow can be brought to an end. I'm not sure what Matt actually wants to hear from Nicola, but let's hope he hears it.

Is as much fuss made about what former players think of Pompey's owner? I mean, when Steve Claridge comes up with some insightful pearl of widom like "Well Manish, I s'pose it would be best if that Trevor whatsisname can find some well rich bloke and, like, get him to buy the club and stuff and we try and get some points before Christmas," is that then seized upon by the Portsmouth News (or whatever it's called) as "Pompey Legend Slams Owner"?
I do hope this meeting happens, and soon. Nicola will turn up on his own and Matt can bring his 'witnesses' and this pointless and distracting sideshow can be brought to an end. I'm not sure what Matt actually wants to hear from Nicola, but let's hope he hears it. Is as much fuss made about what former players think of Pompey's owner? I mean, when Steve Claridge comes up with some insightful pearl of widom like "Well Manish, I s'pose it would be best if that Trevor whatsisname can find some well rich bloke and, like, get him to buy the club and stuff and we try and get some points before Christmas," is that then seized upon by the Portsmouth News (or whatever it's called) as "Pompey Legend Slams Owner"? St Retford
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10:08am Mon 28 Jan 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

milton road wrote:
Strass I was talking foreign players in today's market and generally, not so much Saints. Sorry maybe i should of made that clearer.
Fair enough, Milton. The main points you make were spot on.

I guess I'm hypersensitive when talking about bl00dy foreigners because, in the end, I am one.

When the Le Pen clan (Le Front National) thrust their ugly faces and ugly politics on TV to moan about lazy foreigners who should be sent 'home' I realise that rationally they should be referring as much to me as to the latest North African to disembark in Marsailles.

Anyway, as for today's SFC, we have a German Swiss family, an Italian Swiss banker, an Argentinian manager, an Alsacian (French) midfielder, an Argentinian goalie, an American goalie, a Polish goalie, a Scot, a Brazilian (or is it Brasilian?), a couple of Japanese, a Dutch, a Belgian, a Uruguayan, a Portuguese, a Zambian and now a Norwegian.

When they do their bring and share dinner parties it must be fan-bl00dy-tastic!
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Strass I was talking foreign players in today's market and generally, not so much Saints. Sorry maybe i should of made that clearer.[/p][/quote]Fair enough, Milton. The main points you make were spot on. I guess I'm hypersensitive when talking about bl00dy foreigners because, in the end, I am one. When the Le Pen clan (Le Front National) thrust their ugly faces and ugly politics on TV to moan about lazy foreigners who should be sent 'home' I realise that rationally they should be referring as much to me as to the latest North African to disembark in Marsailles. Anyway, as for today's SFC, we have a German Swiss family, an Italian Swiss banker, an Argentinian manager, an Alsacian (French) midfielder, an Argentinian goalie, an American goalie, a Polish goalie, a Scot, a Brazilian (or is it Brasilian?), a couple of Japanese, a Dutch, a Belgian, a Uruguayan, a Portuguese, a Zambian and now a Norwegian. When they do their bring and share dinner parties it must be fan-bl00dy-tastic! Strasbourg Saint
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10:23am Mon 28 Jan 13

allsaintsnocurves says...

Seriously there's no point in Saints fans even getting involved in this debate. It's clear they both have differing views on things and it would be great for all Saints fans to see them resolve this.

I can't say a bad thing about either of them because I don't know the full story and I love and respect them both.
Seriously there's no point in Saints fans even getting involved in this debate. It's clear they both have differing views on things and it would be great for all Saints fans to see them resolve this. I can't say a bad thing about either of them because I don't know the full story and I love and respect them both. allsaintsnocurves
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11:24am Mon 28 Jan 13

saintstew says...

...its not personal , its business .
The Don is ruthless but very good for our club ,and im sure has no time at the moment to resolve silly little misunderstandings or get in volved with "he said she said" cr@p .hopefully in the future all in the garden will be rosy but for now we must all support " the greater good " as our nige once said . so though i adore legod and all of the ex saints players + managers lets support our club as one ,climb the league and when in the close season , perhaps have a chat then about it all to get it all sorted in one quick meeting, to prove to all that we all love the saints, and then stop squabbling. coyr
...its not personal , its business . The Don is ruthless but very good for our club ,and im sure has no time at the moment to resolve silly little misunderstandings or get in volved with "he said she said" cr@p .hopefully in the future all in the garden will be rosy but for now we must all support " the greater good " as our nige once said . so though i adore legod and all of the ex saints players + managers lets support our club as one ,climb the league and when in the close season , perhaps have a chat then about it all to get it all sorted in one quick meeting, to prove to all that we all love the saints, and then stop squabbling. coyr saintstew
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11:50am Mon 28 Jan 13

Saint. says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Le tiss has carved a good career out of his punditry, I may be biased but he's better than the other lot!
I have never met him but read his book and spoke to those that have. He comes across well and loves the club, he never left! I may be sentimental but I think he has a lot to offer us. Just his presence around the stadium would give all a huge lift and he would be a calming influence on the players and accademy lads
Very true!

There is a lot of ideas to this, and I fstrongly think alot has been left too long to fiester in to what it is today. I hope Le Tiss dose sit down with NC and sort things out, and I will go as far as say that I think Le Tiss should of done it alot sooner than now, and possibly both have too much pride/egos here.

Matt is the best pundit on TV on any channels, and that is not being baises at all. He talks clear and percise logic, with a lot of quick wit. He stands out on the panel for all the right reasons. I would say Gary Neville is a close second. But I love Matt when he went for Merson, after Merson said he hopes Saints go down now!

I think when it comes to NC he has done so much in such a short time. I believe he only managed it by devoting all his efforts and time to looking foward. He has look to make the club profitable and at times making difficult decision to stop the club hemeriging money. He looked at the assets of the club now, which is our players as it shows in the Skysports interview. So his only fault I can see is may be he has not looked into individual heros of the past, and only look forward to create new heros going forward, which is how it should be.

To be honest I think he might grow to like Matt Le Tiss personally when they do meet. They both share a common passion and that is Southampton FC success. It would not hurt for NC to have a friend in the public media fighting Southampton FC cause! If it was not for this silly takeover competition beween them, they may be they would be friends. So come on Matt and Nicola! Open a bottle of wine, and talk. Matt is a Southampton FC God on the pitch and now off it! NC is a God in the chair of Southampon FC and both want the best for the club. NC has said anyone whose heart is Southampton FC he would welcome, so Matt take a red and knock on his door, don't wait and do it through the media!
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Le tiss has carved a good career out of his punditry, I may be biased but he's better than the other lot! I have never met him but read his book and spoke to those that have. He comes across well and loves the club, he never left! I may be sentimental but I think he has a lot to offer us. Just his presence around the stadium would give all a huge lift and he would be a calming influence on the players and accademy lads[/p][/quote]Very true! There is a lot of ideas to this, and I fstrongly think alot has been left too long to fiester in to what it is today. I hope Le Tiss dose sit down with NC and sort things out, and I will go as far as say that I think Le Tiss should of done it alot sooner than now, and possibly both have too much pride/egos here. Matt is the best pundit on TV on any channels, and that is not being baises at all. He talks clear and percise logic, with a lot of quick wit. He stands out on the panel for all the right reasons. I would say Gary Neville is a close second. But I love Matt when he went for Merson, after Merson said he hopes Saints go down now! I think when it comes to NC he has done so much in such a short time. I believe he only managed it by devoting all his efforts and time to looking foward. He has look to make the club profitable and at times making difficult decision to stop the club hemeriging money. He looked at the assets of the club now, which is our players as it shows in the Skysports interview. So his only fault I can see is may be he has not looked into individual heros of the past, and only look forward to create new heros going forward, which is how it should be. To be honest I think he might grow to like Matt Le Tiss personally when they do meet. They both share a common passion and that is Southampton FC success. It would not hurt for NC to have a friend in the public media fighting Southampton FC cause! If it was not for this silly takeover competition beween them, they may be they would be friends. So come on Matt and Nicola! Open a bottle of wine, and talk. Matt is a Southampton FC God on the pitch and now off it! NC is a God in the chair of Southampon FC and both want the best for the club. NC has said anyone whose heart is Southampton FC he would welcome, so Matt take a red and knock on his door, don't wait and do it through the media! Saint.
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1:01pm Mon 28 Jan 13

SaintsBTGOG says...

ottostrasser wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
ottostrasser wrote:
Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that.
Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.
God i hope youre not a Saints fan. Matt never led any pinnacle bid. Matts simply been responding to the actions of Cortese. Like banning him from buying tickets !!

You are clueless
Clueless eh Our Sainted Matt was the figurehead of the Pinnacle .The guys not the sharpest tool in the box and was probably promised the Chairmans job or something.
You remember Pinnacle the company that nearly put the Leibherr family off buying our club ? I think thats where Matts bitterness comes from. I think he would rather Saints were some cuddly club in League One with him and Big Lawrie in charge.Every success that Cortese has puts that dream further away.
Yes clueless.

He was a nothing more than one of them involved that media jumped on.

How does a bid destroy the club ? The administrator is totally in control and decides how to run things. It was his error that dragged the process on. What tosh putting them off buying the club !! Admininstrator is in total control.

You seem to be totally ignoring the fact that Cortese is the one thas been running a vindictive campaign from day one.

He hated the fact people like Le tiss and other backed Pardew to not be sacked. Cortese of course hated the ground Pardew walked on.

Le tissier was then banned from buying tickets for a FA Cup match.

Cortese then slagged him off in the sun newspaper saying he wanted free tickets.

Cortese also banned his season ticket when he was on Skysports doing presenting at SMS.

So take that into consideration and things like his mate Benalis treatment. Its little wonder hes vocal in responding to such things ! Any normal person would and not simply let his name be mudded by Cortese.

This whole thing is down to Cortese and his vindictive behaviour.
[quote][p][bold]ottostrasser[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ottostrasser[/bold] wrote: Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that. Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.[/p][/quote]God i hope youre not a Saints fan. Matt never led any pinnacle bid. Matts simply been responding to the actions of Cortese. Like banning him from buying tickets !! You are clueless[/p][/quote]Clueless eh Our Sainted Matt was the figurehead of the Pinnacle .The guys not the sharpest tool in the box and was probably promised the Chairmans job or something. You remember Pinnacle the company that nearly put the Leibherr family off buying our club ? I think thats where Matts bitterness comes from. I think he would rather Saints were some cuddly club in League One with him and Big Lawrie in charge.Every success that Cortese has puts that dream further away.[/p][/quote]Yes clueless. He was a nothing more than one of them involved that media jumped on. How does a bid destroy the club ? The administrator is totally in control and decides how to run things. It was his error that dragged the process on. What tosh putting them off buying the club !! Admininstrator is in total control. You seem to be totally ignoring the fact that Cortese is the one thas been running a vindictive campaign from day one. He hated the fact people like Le tiss and other backed Pardew to not be sacked. Cortese of course hated the ground Pardew walked on. Le tissier was then banned from buying tickets for a FA Cup match. Cortese then slagged him off in the sun newspaper saying he wanted free tickets. Cortese also banned his season ticket when he was on Skysports doing presenting at SMS. So take that into consideration and things like his mate Benalis treatment. Its little wonder hes vocal in responding to such things ! Any normal person would and not simply let his name be mudded by Cortese. This whole thing is down to Cortese and his vindictive behaviour. SaintsBTGOG
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1:01pm Mon 28 Jan 13

marbus66 says...

TommyAcland wrote:
It would be wonderful to see legends from our club's heritage: like my favourite ever player and boy-hood hero Mathew Le Tissier, and Mr Cortese - make peace, all around, honour the past, look to the future. At the end of the day, we all want the same thing, as Saints' supporters, and that's to see a HAPPY, UNITED, SUCCESSFUL club. What a wonderful moment it would be if the hatchet could be buried and the two of you's: Matt and Nicola could iron out your differences and come onto the pitch and wave to the crowd !!! What a reception and a lift to all the supporters and the team. Possible? Unlikely? All I know is I'm a lifelong Southampton supporter and want us all "together as one".
Well said, but i do not think it will happen unless NC employs some decent PR people COYR !!!
[quote][p][bold]TommyAcland[/bold] wrote: It would be wonderful to see legends from our club's heritage: like my favourite ever player and boy-hood hero Mathew Le Tissier, and Mr Cortese - make peace, all around, honour the past, look to the future. At the end of the day, we all want the same thing, as Saints' supporters, and that's to see a HAPPY, UNITED, SUCCESSFUL club. What a wonderful moment it would be if the hatchet could be buried and the two of you's: Matt and Nicola could iron out your differences and come onto the pitch and wave to the crowd !!! What a reception and a lift to all the supporters and the team. Possible? Unlikely? All I know is I'm a lifelong Southampton supporter and want us all "together as one".[/p][/quote]Well said, but i do not think it will happen unless NC employs some decent PR people COYR !!! marbus66
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1:38pm Mon 28 Jan 13

phil9246 says...

roofspace wrote:
Good Luck with that !!!!!!!!!
Matt Le Tissier is a fading star. He was responsible for fronting a 'mickey mouse' bid to take us out of administration and is now desperate to keep his name/face in the public eye. I know who I would trust out of Le Tissier and Cortese.... and it is not Matt!
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: Good Luck with that !!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Matt Le Tissier is a fading star. He was responsible for fronting a 'mickey mouse' bid to take us out of administration and is now desperate to keep his name/face in the public eye. I know who I would trust out of Le Tissier and Cortese.... and it is not Matt! phil9246
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2:13pm Mon 28 Jan 13

kinkyboots09 says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
ottostrasser wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
ottostrasser wrote:
Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that.
Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.
God i hope youre not a Saints fan. Matt never led any pinnacle bid. Matts simply been responding to the actions of Cortese. Like banning him from buying tickets !!

You are clueless
Clueless eh Our Sainted Matt was the figurehead of the Pinnacle .The guys not the sharpest tool in the box and was probably promised the Chairmans job or something.
You remember Pinnacle the company that nearly put the Leibherr family off buying our club ? I think thats where Matts bitterness comes from. I think he would rather Saints were some cuddly club in League One with him and Big Lawrie in charge.Every success that Cortese has puts that dream further away.
Yes clueless.

He was a nothing more than one of them involved that media jumped on.

How does a bid destroy the club ? The administrator is totally in control and decides how to run things. It was his error that dragged the process on. What tosh putting them off buying the club !! Admininstrator is in total control.

You seem to be totally ignoring the fact that Cortese is the one thas been running a vindictive campaign from day one.

He hated the fact people like Le tiss and other backed Pardew to not be sacked. Cortese of course hated the ground Pardew walked on.

Le tissier was then banned from buying tickets for a FA Cup match.

Cortese then slagged him off in the sun newspaper saying he wanted free tickets.

Cortese also banned his season ticket when he was on Skysports doing presenting at SMS.

So take that into consideration and things like his mate Benalis treatment. Its little wonder hes vocal in responding to such things ! Any normal person would and not simply let his name be mudded by Cortese.

This whole thing is down to Cortese and his vindictive behaviour.
Cortese vindictive....i think not, he's a business man who has to make tough decisions...
Matt clueless,,i think not just misguided in his statements about Cortese,,,
Matt a sucker..deffo yes..he was made to look an utter fool by Micky Fialka as this walter mitty character promised to make him chairman..now Cortese has hiss ball and Matt dont like it one bit
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ottostrasser[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ottostrasser[/bold] wrote: Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that. Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.[/p][/quote]God i hope youre not a Saints fan. Matt never led any pinnacle bid. Matts simply been responding to the actions of Cortese. Like banning him from buying tickets !! You are clueless[/p][/quote]Clueless eh Our Sainted Matt was the figurehead of the Pinnacle .The guys not the sharpest tool in the box and was probably promised the Chairmans job or something. You remember Pinnacle the company that nearly put the Leibherr family off buying our club ? I think thats where Matts bitterness comes from. I think he would rather Saints were some cuddly club in League One with him and Big Lawrie in charge.Every success that Cortese has puts that dream further away.[/p][/quote]Yes clueless. He was a nothing more than one of them involved that media jumped on. How does a bid destroy the club ? The administrator is totally in control and decides how to run things. It was his error that dragged the process on. What tosh putting them off buying the club !! Admininstrator is in total control. You seem to be totally ignoring the fact that Cortese is the one thas been running a vindictive campaign from day one. He hated the fact people like Le tiss and other backed Pardew to not be sacked. Cortese of course hated the ground Pardew walked on. Le tissier was then banned from buying tickets for a FA Cup match. Cortese then slagged him off in the sun newspaper saying he wanted free tickets. Cortese also banned his season ticket when he was on Skysports doing presenting at SMS. So take that into consideration and things like his mate Benalis treatment. Its little wonder hes vocal in responding to such things ! Any normal person would and not simply let his name be mudded by Cortese. This whole thing is down to Cortese and his vindictive behaviour.[/p][/quote]Cortese vindictive....i think not, he's a business man who has to make tough decisions... Matt clueless,,i think not just misguided in his statements about Cortese,,, Matt a sucker..deffo yes..he was made to look an utter fool by Micky Fialka as this walter mitty character promised to make him chairman..now Cortese has hiss ball and Matt dont like it one bit kinkyboots09
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2:41pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Galapagos Saint says...

I can handle the Guly-bashers, I can (just about) deal with the NA saga, I can manage th P**pey trolls and WUMs (by laughing at them)....but I cannot and will not accept all this anti-MLT chat. Thou shalt not blaspheme against Le God.
I can handle the Guly-bashers, I can (just about) deal with the NA saga, I can manage th P**pey trolls and WUMs (by laughing at them)....but I cannot and will not accept all this anti-MLT chat. Thou shalt not blaspheme against Le God. Galapagos Saint
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2:44pm Mon 28 Jan 13

kinkyboots09 says...

Galapagos Saint wrote:
I can handle the Guly-bashers, I can (just about) deal with the NA saga, I can manage th P**pey trolls and WUMs (by laughing at them)....but I cannot and will not accept all this anti-MLT chat. Thou shalt not blaspheme against Le God.
You have done exactly that in your last 4 words..burn in hell blasphemer..lol.xx
[quote][p][bold]Galapagos Saint[/bold] wrote: I can handle the Guly-bashers, I can (just about) deal with the NA saga, I can manage th P**pey trolls and WUMs (by laughing at them)....but I cannot and will not accept all this anti-MLT chat. Thou shalt not blaspheme against Le God.[/p][/quote]You have done exactly that in your last 4 words..burn in hell blasphemer..lol.xx kinkyboots09
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2:55pm Mon 28 Jan 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

since 1885 wrote:
Seed Osprey whoever you are. If you really did have a contact high up i don't think he'd appreciate you coming on a Saints thread blabbing all these club secrets he'd have told you on the hush. Would he really risk his job to tell you stuff that you would then blab on here! Even if you don't name him you're still stiching him up! Just doesn't add up. How can I put it Billy, liar liar panties on fire! About sums it up sunshine!
I am Osprey, I am not Seed, I have no contacts anywhere, I have no Club secrets, who exactly are you? Which of our past multi sign ons were you before?
[quote][p][bold]since 1885[/bold] wrote: Seed Osprey whoever you are. If you really did have a contact high up i don't think he'd appreciate you coming on a Saints thread blabbing all these club secrets he'd have told you on the hush. Would he really risk his job to tell you stuff that you would then blab on here! Even if you don't name him you're still stiching him up! Just doesn't add up. How can I put it Billy, liar liar panties on fire! About sums it up sunshine![/p][/quote]I am Osprey, I am not Seed, I have no contacts anywhere, I have no Club secrets, who exactly are you? Which of our past multi sign ons were you before? OSPREYSAINT
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