Le Tiss wants face-to-face talks with Cortese (From Daily Echo)

roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?

three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

More than any of yours. How many days is it now?

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

And you are who exactly ?

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

And you are who exactly ?

Velleity wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

And you are who exactly ?

a "bloke" who spends all day on t site checking the credibility of posters, 2 c if they deserve a response. wat a lowlife. shame 4 him.

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.

where are the trophies

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

More than any of yours. How many days is it now?

cant answer my question

apm1954 wrote:
here we go again , come on we are the saints family ,we dont need this bickering remember once a saint allways a saint

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.

where are the trophies

Yours went on e-Bay years ago.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Can we watch? Seriously, if MLT did meet NC face to face as the decent bloke we think he is, and not as some kind of superhero, I think they will get on fine. Working together would be another string in our bow. It's time to bury the hatchet, patch up old wounds and stride forward as one. That goes for FB as well if he knows whats good for him.

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

And you are who exactly ?

Red n White wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

More than any of yours. How many days is it now?

cant answer my question

Your comment implies that neither Pardew nor Adkins brought success to us, which would mean that Cortese was right in getting rid of them. Who do we as fans owe loyalty to though; the club, the chairman, the manager, the players? The only long term (in most cases) is the club, which is run by the chairman, who mostly more money, which is the result of a successful club. Therefore, we should back the chairman as they are the long-term, whereas managers are only for the short-term. The latest rumour is that NA lost the players, if so who do we owe loyalty to there, the players or the manager? Surely as a skate you would have realised the importance of good money management?! We spent up to £30 million, I doubt Cortese is willing to see it wasted by going straight back down.

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.

where are the trophies

Yours went on e-Bay years ago.

2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

More than any of yours. How many days is it now?

cant answer my question

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

And you are who exactly ?

I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Red n White wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

More than any of yours. How many days is it now?

cant answer my question

Your comment implies that neither Pardew nor Adkins brought success to us, which would mean that Cortese was right in getting rid of them. Who do we as fans owe loyalty to though; the club, the chairman, the manager, the players? The only long term (in most cases) is the club, which is run by the chairman, who mostly more money, which is the result of a successful club. Therefore, we should back the chairman as they are the long-term, whereas managers are only for the short-term. The latest rumour is that NA lost the players, if so who do we owe loyalty to there, the players or the manager? Surely as a skate you would have realised the importance of good money management?! We spent up to £30 million, I doubt Cortese is willing to see it wasted by going straight back down.

mayb Coutinho didnt want 2 come as he didnt think the new manager would b there very long. i bet brendan rodgers will be around much longer, and can get his players 2 play with more freedom

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.

where are the trophies

Yours went on e-Bay years ago.

2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul

2002 was a poor Chamionship Year and we all know how the 2008 Cup was "bought". When Lance Armstrong cheated he had his Trophies removed.

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

And you are who exactly ?

I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.

but ur friends here post on the news site. so u r guilty by association, and as sad as them

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.

where are the trophies

Yours went on e-Bay years ago.

2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul

2002 was a poor Chamionship Year and we all know how the 2008 Cup was "bought". When Lance Armstrong cheated he had his Trophies removed.

i am watching ur club closely and t money that they will soon b spending. ur club has for years injected t team with pompey boys . haha

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

And you are who exactly ?

I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.

but ur friends here post on the news site. so u r guilty by association, and as sad as them

I didn't vote for them to post on The News site, it is not actually a crime so I am not guilty of anything. I posted just once, to point out a certain sock puppet wasn't what he was pretending to be, several Saints posters have been sending sensible advice, well worth paying attention to and several posters on The News site pretend to be Saints when they are nothing of the sort, they usually end up giving themselves away. You should spend your time on there and not on here, unless you can find something sensible to say, I dare you. I doubt you and currently I despise you.

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

And you are who exactly ?

I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent

141/southamptondomin

ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

And you are who exactly ?

I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent


141/southamptondomin


ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.

You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.

three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.

where are the trophies

Yours went on e-Bay years ago.

2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

And you are who exactly ?

I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.

but ur friends here post on the news site. so u r guilty by association, and as sad as them

I didn't vote for them to post on The News site, it is not actually a crime so I am not guilty of anything. I posted just once, to point out a certain sock puppet wasn't what he was pretending to be, several Saints posters have been sending sensible advice, well worth paying attention to and several posters on The News site pretend to be Saints when they are nothing of the sort, they usually end up giving themselves away. You should spend your time on there and not on here, unless you can find something sensible to say, I dare you. I doubt you and currently I despise you.

diddems gramps. u r responsible for a quarter of all posts on here. u need 2 get out and meet real people.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

And you are who exactly ?

I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent



141/southamptondomin



ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.

You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.

That is so ironic it's untrue! OK you have had your feed of attention, back to your worm hole, no more from me today.

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.

where are the trophies

three halves wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

And you are who exactly ?

I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent




141/southamptondomin




ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.

You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.

That is so ironic it's untrue! OK you have had your feed of attention, back to your worm hole, no more from me today.

So osprey and velleity are the same person... well i never !!

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
About time Cortese stopped hiding behind the situaton he created. Hes had a clear chip on his shoulder from day 1 . Hes carred it out thorugh actions like banning him from buying tickets and allsorts.

Not the first time MLT as offered to sort the situation out. Cortese really is terribly arrogant and spiteful.

rednwhite72 wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.

where are the trophies

with all due respect, and I am for once going to try and be serious with you here, how can a supporter of a club that has destroyed itself, over and over advise another on how to keep our house tidy. Your situation down there is unpresidented, without equal, there has never been such a catastrophic failure to run a business/football club by anyone ever before in football history(Im sure thats one part of bygone that you will wanna forget). Why did the supporters allow this to happen? you made choices, you allowed the former owners to destroy your club, make a choice you say? stick with the bygone era of leather balls and long shorts, or choose to move on? It seems our choice to embrass the changes that we know will help us move forward and become successful is the right one and from experience the choice to try and hold on to the old, bygone dusty trophy cabinet era has not helped one bit, infact probably helps to keep you down, do yourself a favour keep holding on to your past, because unfortunately your club at this time has no future.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

three halves wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

And you are who exactly ?

I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent





141/southamptondomin





ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.

You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.

That is so ironic it's untrue! OK you have had your feed of attention, back to your worm hole, no more from me today.

So osprey and velleity are the same person... well i never !!

Unless Vell was born in Bassett, it's not me.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.

where are the trophies

Yours went on e-Bay years ago.

2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul

2002 was a poor Chamionship Year and we all know how the 2008 Cup was "bought". When Lance Armstrong cheated he had his Trophies removed.

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

And you are who exactly ?

I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent


141/southamptondomin


ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.

You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

And you are who exactly ?

I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent



141/southamptondomin



ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.

You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.

I think that's about the funniest thing you've ever posted.

I'm choking on the irony.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.

where are the trophies

Yours went on e-Bay years ago.

2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

And you are who exactly ?

I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent



141/southamptondomin



ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.

You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.

I think that's about the funniest thing you've ever posted.

I'm choking on the irony.

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.

where are the trophies

Yours went on e-Bay years ago.

2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul

Saintsayer II wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.

Although i have not been able to comment for a month or so I have been following all that has happened
During that time I was surprise at your lack of comments on the NA dissmissal but I thank you for this post which appears to be extremely well thought out

I am still angry about the change but for reasons that go beyond football. having watched the interview i find myself wanting answers to two more questions

When he said it was perfect timing for the players was he hinting that some unrest in the dressing room was about to service?

When he basically said no one individual is bigger than the club was he saying that our love of Adkins was getting to be to important ?

Whatever happens I will never forget the man who gave us such afantastic 2 and a bit years

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

And you are who exactly ?

I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent




141/southamptondomin




ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.

You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.

I think that's about the funniest thing you've ever posted.

I'm choking on the irony.

You are definitely not from Bassett are you Vell? Seems I have a problem with my identity!?

Velleity wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:
Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground?

You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are,
You're Kent and we know you are...

Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

And you are who exactly ?

I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent





141/southamptondomin





ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to).

You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.

You are a little nobody hiding behind a login trying to wind people up.

I think that's about the funniest thing you've ever posted.

I'm choking on the irony.

You are definitely not from Bassett are you Vell? Seems I have a problem with my identity!?

Not that posh.

beiroot wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.

where are the trophies

Yours went on e-Bay years ago.

2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul

2002 was a poor Chamionship Year and we all know how the 2008 Cup was "bought". When Lance Armstrong cheated he had his Trophies removed.

I think most trophies are bought nowadays.Don't spose Man City bought anyone when they won the Prem or Chelsea when they won ther cup finals.Get over it ,our name is on the cup twice and might have been 3 times if Chelsea hadn't have cheated and bought Drogma and paid him mega money.So what do you suggest ?Remove all the trophies from all those that have "bought them" and just leave the winners of the '76 Cup Final.(and you wouldn't have won that if you never offered more wages to a player than his local club could)

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Tiss is a legend! His laid back character mirrored the city's own character. We all love him, but this whole vendetta with NC is not good for the club or his own image. OSPers was right, stick em in a room & let them sort it out.

The club is on a good footing which he should be happy about, even though his consortium's bid was unsuccessful.

Nicola and other chairman should welcome previous players back and not do what Ken Bates did and ban the likes of Ron Chopper Harris from the ground. I hope NC extends an
invitation to the likes of Franny and Tiss, big parts of our recent history!

saintkenny wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.

where are the trophies

Yours went on e-Bay years ago.

2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul

yes you bought them when did you last achieve anything honestly .nothing to brag about .not just to saints fans thw whole football league and premier league

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

MGRA wrote:
I think we all know that NC would be too scared for a face-to-face meeting with MTL. He wants witnesses for reasons to obvious to put into print.

MGRA wrote:
I think we all know that NC would be too scared for a face-to-face meeting with MTL. He wants witnesses for reasons to obvious to put into print.

ghk230473 wrote:
IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd.
Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland.
If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky!
Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

MGRA wrote:
I think we all know that NC would be too scared for a face-to-face meeting with MTL. He wants witnesses for reasons to obvious to put into print.

You have a strange and cynical view of humanity, is it based on your own standards?

ghk230473 wrote:
IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd.
Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland.
If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky!
Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?

Red n White wrote:

roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?

I don't have much respect for Le Tissier as a person since he finished his football career. He has taken every opportunity to knock Cortese publicly, on Twitter, TV and even at charity events.
I admire Cortese for his vision for the club. You may have been happy to bounce between the Championship and Premiership, but myself I want to see Saints rise up the table, and it's Cortese's vision to get us into Europe so I respect and like him.
Don't talk like you represent every Saints fan, or are you hoping for an interview from the Echo?

milton road wrote:
Lol NC I do not think is scared of anyone lol. The only reason MLT wants witnesses is to blogg it all over twitter, where NC keeps such things private.
Wasn't MLT's backers called Portpin or something like that? you know the front man who wouldn't discuss the backers. Who held up Markus's take over for weeks, nearly saw the club liquidated.
Maybe what NC was saying that the club needed to evolve to the next level and Nigel had taken us as far as he could.
Few of us wanted NA to go but he has and we need to move on, nothing will change that.
I certainly would not want NC to go, if that happened the owners would go with him, what then?
Markus only bought the club as long as
NC ran it.
I for one am glad and grateful what the owners and NC have done for us and we have a chairman that really wants the club to succeed.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.

J7junctionseven wrote:
I agree with the earlier poster. MLT should not go blabbing to the media if indeed he did?? He should do it privately if Cortese will grant him an audience. It would be nice to think he could get on with Cortese and also get back on board with the club and be given some sort of role as an ambassador or similar role. It would be a fitting tribute to him for his contributions as a player and I bet he'd love to be at the club during the wonderful journey we may all be on in the near future if Cortese's master plan comes into fruition.
COYR FOADP......Well done Hartlepool by the way....Wah ha ha h ha

Harold K Steptoe wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.

Everything was put back exactly as it was and it was only one room that was altered. FB made a big fuss about a small issue.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd.
Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland.
If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky!
Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?

We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final.

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd.
Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland.
If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky!
Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?

We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final.

I think a good chairman is never seen and never heard!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd.
Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland.
If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky!
Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?

We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final.

I think a good chairman is never seen and never heard!

... I suspect ours would prefer it that way, but his hand is being forced a little, pressure from all directions.

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd.
Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland.
If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky!
Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?

We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final.

I think a good chairman is never seen and never heard!

Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.

slugger wrote:
“Yes, of course, I felt sorry for Nigel. I’ve been in his position, losing my job after four years at Espanyol in November.

“Sometimes not only does a project end but so does a club’s philosophy. The goals and targets change.

“A coach can suit one project — but not another.”


Lifted from MP's interview with the Sun on Sunday ......... To me this says everything !

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.

Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd.
Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland.
If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky!
Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?

We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final.

I think a good chairman is never seen and never heard!

... I suspect ours would prefer it that way, but his hand is being forced a little, pressure from all directions.

In an ideal world the pair would work together in complete harmony, le tiss could offer advice. Watching him on sky he's not a loud mouth gob sh1te like the rest!

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.

Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?

"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.

notaclue wrote:
Its Courtes's ball and he says you can't pay so you can't play, sorry Matt.

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.

Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?

"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.

I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.

Leicestersaint wrote:
I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class.

Leicestersaint wrote:
I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Leicestersaint wrote:
I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class.

Typically judgemental about someone you know nothing about, you are just basing it on the same old rhetoric and hearsay which we have been proving to be wrong over and over again. There was an official thank you on the Saint Official Web site, keep up.

Leicestersaint wrote:
I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class.

Velleity wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Leicestersaint wrote:
I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class.

Typically judgemental about someone you know nothing about, you are just basing it on the same old rhetoric and hearsay which we have been proving to be wrong over and over again. There was an official thank you on the Saint Official Web site, keep up.

Didn't see (and can't see) that. Do you have a link?

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.

Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?

"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.

I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.

Velleity wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Leicestersaint wrote:
I think it is very evident that Mr Cortese is not a nice person. If I have to choose betwen MLT and Cortese I will go for the man who showed loyalty and commitment over many years to Saints and not a man who has not even got the common decency to say a public thank you to Nigel Adkins for what he achieved. Cortese has no class.

Typically judgemental about someone you know nothing about, you are just basing it on the same old rhetoric and hearsay which we have been proving to be wrong over and over again. There was an official thank you on the Saint Official Web site, keep up.

Didn't see (and can't see) that. Do you have a link?

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.

Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?

"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.

I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.

Anyway Dave..... ignore the gimp.

What I would really like to know, is did you have a hand in airbrushing Adkins out of Saints History??

If so who asked you to do it??

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.

Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?

"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.

I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.

Anyway Dave..... ignore the gimp.

What I would really like to know, is did you have a hand in airbrushing Adkins out of Saints History??

If so who asked you to do it??

Dave the thing of it is, we don't get celebrities round these parts. The last was Timmy Mallet, and that Tv am money had obviously gone to his head. So Thornhill is understandably excited, please answer his little question and ignore our in house "spat".

Appologies Mr Juson. There happy Thornhill!

Red n White wrote:

roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?

I don't have much respect for Le Tissier as a person since he finished his football career. He has taken every opportunity to knock Cortese publicly, on Twitter, TV and even at charity events.
I admire Cortese for his vision for the club. You may have been happy to bounce between the Championship and Premiership, but myself I want to see Saints rise up the table, and it's Cortese's vision to get us into Europe so I respect and like him.
Don't talk like you represent every Saints fan, or are you hoping for an interview from the Echo?

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?

I don't know, tell us.

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.

Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?

"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.

I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.

Anyway Dave..... ignore the gimp.

What I would really like to know, is did you have a hand in airbrushing Adkins out of Saints History??

If so who asked you to do it??

Dave the thing of it is, we don't get celebrities round these parts. The last was Timmy Mallet, and that Tv am money had obviously gone to his head. So Thornhill is understandably excited, please answer his little question and ignore our in house "spat".

Appologies Mr Juson. There happy Thornhill!

Mr. Branfoot etc. etc.

I admit I do not know if you are a gimp or not but I do know you have a penchant for giving it large, and thought I would get in there first.

David Juson may hold all the answers. He know Saints history better than any other except maybe Gary Chalk. Gary.... Does not really post on here so I can't really ask him.

Who better than to enlighten us on Adkins "A historical perspective"

roofspace wrote:

Red n White wrote:

roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?

I don't have much respect for Le Tissier as a person since he finished his football career. He has taken every opportunity to knock Cortese publicly, on Twitter, TV and even at charity events.
I admire Cortese for his vision for the club. You may have been happy to bounce between the Championship and Premiership, but myself I want to see Saints rise up the table, and it's Cortese's vision to get us into Europe so I respect and like him.
Don't talk like you represent every Saints fan, or are you hoping for an interview from the Echo?

Ahh, one of the sycophants has broke cover............

roofspace wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?

I don't know, tell us.

If you had a functioning brain cell I wouldn't have to.

roofspace wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?

I don't know, tell us.

If you had a functioning brain cell I wouldn't have to.

roofspace wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?

I don't know, tell us.

If you had a functioning brain cell I wouldn't have to.

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.

Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?

"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.

I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.

Anyway Dave..... ignore the gimp.

What I would really like to know, is did you have a hand in airbrushing Adkins out of Saints History??

If so who asked you to do it??

Dave the thing of it is, we don't get celebrities round these parts. The last was Timmy Mallet, and that Tv am money had obviously gone to his head. So Thornhill is understandably excited, please answer his little question and ignore our in house "spat".

Appologies Mr Juson. There happy Thornhill!

Mr. Branfoot etc. etc.

I admit I do not know if you are a gimp or not but I do know you have a penchant for giving it large, and thought I would get in there first.

David Juson may hold all the answers. He know Saints history better than any other except maybe Gary Chalk. Gary.... Does not really post on here so I can't really ask him.

Who better than to enlighten us on Adkins "A historical perspective"

I apologised, did I not! Your question was most certainly valid. I was larking around.

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Bring back Branfoot wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.

Nice one mr. Juson. Are you and mr. Chalk still contributing historical bits to the program?

"Mr", ark at you Thornhill! Sb's a little star struck Dave.

I'll bet you skip over his efforts week in week out. No appreciation of history.

Anyway Dave..... ignore the gimp.

What I would really like to know, is did you have a hand in airbrushing Adkins out of Saints History??

If so who asked you to do it??

Dave the thing of it is, we don't get celebrities round these parts. The last was Timmy Mallet, and that Tv am money had obviously gone to his head. So Thornhill is understandably excited, please answer his little question and ignore our in house "spat".

Appologies Mr Juson. There happy Thornhill!

Mr. Branfoot etc. etc.

I admit I do not know if you are a gimp or not but I do know you have a penchant for giving it large, and thought I would get in there first.

David Juson may hold all the answers. He know Saints history better than any other except maybe Gary Chalk. Gary.... Does not really post on here so I can't really ask him.

Who better than to enlighten us on Adkins "A historical perspective"

I apologised, did I not! Your question was most certainly valid. I was larking around.

Totally accepted. I hope David..... has not been scared off.

slugger wrote:

roofspace wrote:

Red n White wrote:

roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?

I don't have much respect for Le Tissier as a person since he finished his football career. He has taken every opportunity to knock Cortese publicly, on Twitter, TV and even at charity events.
I admire Cortese for his vision for the club. You may have been happy to bounce between the Championship and Premiership, but myself I want to see Saints rise up the table, and it's Cortese's vision to get us into Europe so I respect and like him.
Don't talk like you represent every Saints fan, or are you hoping for an interview from the Echo?

Ahh, one of the sycophants has broke cover............

Another one here ........... you don't speak for me pal.

iswhite10 wrote:
Matt, if you want to sort this don't do it in the media, do it in private.
If there's one thing we can all work out about Nicola it's don't wash dirty linen (or indeed ANY linen!) in public, whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation.

Sir Ad E Noid wrote:

iswhite10 wrote:
Matt, if you want to sort this don't do it in the media, do it in private.
If there's one thing we can all work out about Nicola it's don't wash dirty linen (or indeed ANY linen!) in public, whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation.

Best post on this thread and one that Le Tiss should heed if he wants to move things along from where they are now.

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Nicola's remit is to get success for the club, not sell himself as likeable to us. Because Matty is a club legend and a good lad doesn't mean I want him running the club. Give me sb who is willing to make the unpopular decisions in order to attain success.

ottostrasser wrote:
Who the hell does MLT think he is "demanding" a meeting with Mr Cortese?
Cortese is the Chairman of our club and hasnt put a foot wrong.
Matt retire with dignity youve got a nice job with Sky unfortunately you use it to attack our succesful set up and hang out with your friends like Mike Osman.
Where is Mike Osman BTW way he was always sticking his oar in? Hes gone strangely quiet ............

Saintsayer II wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.

Although i have not been able to comment for a month or so I have been following all that has happened
During that time I was surprise at your lack of comments on the NA dissmissal but I thank you for this post which appears to be extremely well thought out

I am still angry about the change but for reasons that go beyond football. having watched the interview i find myself wanting answers to two more questions

When he said it was perfect timing for the players was he hinting that some unrest in the dressing room was about to service?

When he basically said no one individual is bigger than the club was he saying that our love of Adkins was getting to be to important ?

Whatever happens I will never forget the man who gave us such afantastic 2 and a bit years

ottostrasser wrote:
Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that.
Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Saintsayer II wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.

Although i have not been able to comment for a month or so I have been following all that has happened
During that time I was surprise at your lack of comments on the NA dissmissal but I thank you for this post which appears to be extremely well thought out

I am still angry about the change but for reasons that go beyond football. having watched the interview i find myself wanting answers to two more questions

When he said it was perfect timing for the players was he hinting that some unrest in the dressing room was about to service?

When he basically said no one individual is bigger than the club was he saying that our love of Adkins was getting to be to important ?

Whatever happens I will never forget the man who gave us such afantastic 2 and a bit years

Glad to have you back mate, hope all is well.

In my opinion all of this could be so much easier with just clearer communication from the club. Not secrets about transfers etc obviously, but stuff that doesn't affect any of the clubs business dealings. It's a two way street.

franiow wrote:
MLT should have asked to meet Nicola in a clear the air meeting by a private approach rather than twitter. I suppose he's hurt by the fact that Cortese met him, but doesn't remember him. He has constantly had digs at Nicola...people don't respond well to that whether you are wrong or right. As he cares about SFC, I suggest he tries to get a meeting. Why does he want witnesses...Nicola isn't actually likely to turn violent.

franiow wrote:
MLT should have asked to meet Nicola in a clear the air meeting by a private approach rather than twitter. I suppose he's hurt by the fact that Cortese met him, but doesn't remember him. He has constantly had digs at Nicola...people don't respond well to that whether you are wrong or right. As he cares about SFC, I suggest he tries to get a meeting. Why does he want witnesses...Nicola isn't actually likely to turn violent.

loadcee wrote:
Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of .

dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!

Tirau Dan wrote:
Sick of this, Sick of Le Tissier
For goodness sake move on
Fialka Off

Hamitus Prime wrote:
Funny how Matt "Do you know who i am" Le Tissier is accusing someone of having an ego. Get back to your lackies at the golf club. He'll be on big brother next he's so desperate for publicity!

Dave Juson wrote:
It would seem to me that Nicola Cortese, having realised that he was in a position to purchase an almost new stadium, a state of the art training ground and one of the country’s top academies for a pittance, must have done some research into the Club’s recent history and came to the conclusion that not much of the criticism directed at it since Gordon Strachan had been recruited as manager, had been particularly constructive.
Subsequently, he has tended to have little time for the Club’s leading critics or the publication that has devoted so much space to them. Draw up your own lists.
Of course, this is just a theory. Take it for what it is worth.

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.

where are the trophies

Yours went on e-Bay years ago.

2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

loadcee wrote:
Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of .

Really ????

Those two simply bought us if it wasnt them it would of been someone else.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

loadcee wrote:
Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of .

Really ????

Those two simply bought us if it wasnt them it would of been someone else.

I seem to remember the being less than 7 days from oblivion after the Pinnicle farce collapsed...

...in my opinion, Markus Liebherr (on the advice of NC) saved the Club. I was not aware of the "someone else" you are referring to.

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!

Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

loadcee wrote:
Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of .

Really ????

Those two simply bought us if it wasnt them it would of been someone else.

I seem to remember the being less than 7 days from oblivion after the Pinnicle farce collapsed...

...in my opinion, Markus Liebherr (on the advice of NC) saved the Club. I was not aware of the "someone else" you are referring to.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

loadcee wrote:
Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of .

Really ????

Those two simply bought us if it wasnt them it would of been someone else.

I seem to remember the being less than 7 days from oblivion after the Pinnicle farce collapsed...

...in my opinion, Markus Liebherr (on the advice of NC) saved the Club. I was not aware of the "someone else" you are referring to.

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

loadcee wrote:
Matt as much as I love everything you did for us as a player, Cortese and Marcus saved us and if you had we would be bottom of league 1 with Pompey now end of .

Really ????

Those two simply bought us if it wasnt them it would of been someone else.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!

Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.

I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

rednwhite72 wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.

where are the trophies

with all due respect, and I am for once going to try and be serious with you here, how can a supporter of a club that has destroyed itself, over and over advise another on how to keep our house tidy. Your situation down there is unpresidented, without equal, there has never been such a catastrophic failure to run a business/football club by anyone ever before in football history(Im sure thats one part of bygone that you will wanna forget). Why did the supporters allow this to happen? you made choices, you allowed the former owners to destroy your club, make a choice you say? stick with the bygone era of leather balls and long shorts, or choose to move on? It seems our choice to embrass the changes that we know will help us move forward and become successful is the right one and from experience the choice to try and hold on to the old, bygone dusty trophy cabinet era has not helped one bit, infact probably helps to keep you down, do yourself a favour keep holding on to your past, because unfortunately your club at this time has no future.

only a fan run future. get out a bit more eh?

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

ottostrasser wrote:
Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that.
Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.

God i hope youre not a Saints fan. Matt never led any pinnacle bid. Matts simply been responding to the actions of Cortese. Like banning him from buying tickets !!

You are clueless

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Tirau Dan wrote:
Sick of this, Sick of Le Tissier
For goodness sake move on
Fialka Off

Very unfair Dan. When it looked like no one was going to step in Matt tried to get something going. It was total rubbish but the motivation was right. Top player poor businessman.

rednwhite72 wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

rednwhite72 wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.

where are the trophies

with all due respect, and I am for once going to try and be serious with you here, how can a supporter of a club that has destroyed itself, over and over advise another on how to keep our house tidy. Your situation down there is unpresidented, without equal, there has never been such a catastrophic failure to run a business/football club by anyone ever before in football history(Im sure thats one part of bygone that you will wanna forget). Why did the supporters allow this to happen? you made choices, you allowed the former owners to destroy your club, make a choice you say? stick with the bygone era of leather balls and long shorts, or choose to move on? It seems our choice to embrass the changes that we know will help us move forward and become successful is the right one and from experience the choice to try and hold on to the old, bygone dusty trophy cabinet era has not helped one bit, infact probably helps to keep you down, do yourself a favour keep holding on to your past, because unfortunately your club at this time has no future.

only a fan run future. get out a bit more eh?

Seriously again, are you trying to convince me or yourself that this is an answer. Let me tell you now its not, its not a choice, its a forced hand. You have no other option if you don't try this your gone, simple as that. Basically you are buying more time, god knows you have had enough already. Your club is not a business that anyone with any sense would buy, your in the worst possible state that any business can be. The most valuable asset you have is the land.
You have to go to court to fight for the right to even make the offer, why? because you don't satisfy the required credentials to be normally accepted as a serious bidder. Its last chance saloon, stop kidding yourself and get over the jealousy and envy and go and help your club, instead of trying to make yourself feel better by flogging the dead horse antics over here...!
Once you get over the denial you may be able to move on.

andysaints007 wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

You see, our managers only need two years at the helm to manage two promotions.

where are the trophies

Yours went on e-Bay years ago.

2002 championship winners n 2008FA cup still looking good for a last decade haul

It's such a shame that FA cup win has actually ended up costing you your club !! ****

Tirau Dan wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Tirau Dan wrote:
Sick of this, Sick of Le Tissier
For goodness sake move on
Fialka Off

Very unfair Dan. When it looked like no one was going to step in Matt tried to get something going. It was total rubbish but the motivation was right. Top player poor businessman.

I've said all the good things about him as a player when he put effort in (could have been so much better) and respect his immense talent. The mindset of the throw-in thing was against every fibre of respect for the game... absolutely unforgivable.. not something you'd ever want your kids to even contemplate.
Sorry but the guy is a self effacing media pundit who gets paid for being in the forefront of media and he is dragging club and his former personal glory through the mud... imho

rednwhite72 wrote:
sorry I don't get the post above?

Whats 'SBTGOG' ?

:)

rednwhite72 wrote:
sorry I don't get the post above?

Whats 'SBTGOG' ?

:)

J7junctionseven wrote:

rednwhite72 wrote:
sorry I don't get the post above?

Whats 'SBTGOG' ?

:)

Saints Before TheGrace Of God is my guess but I'm a bit baffled too

Thornhill Saint wrote:

rednwhite72 wrote:
sorry I don't get the post above?

Whats 'SBTGOG' ?

:)

Sorry quoted wrong *Should have been "SaintsBTGOG".

He knows who he is.

slugger wrote:

J7junctionseven wrote:

rednwhite72 wrote:
sorry I don't get the post above?

Whats 'SBTGOG' ?

:)

Saints Before TheGrace Of God is my guess but I'm a bit baffled too

Saints By The Grace Of God ....... Good name , carp poster (imo)

rednwhite72 wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

rednwhite72 wrote:
sorry I don't get the post above?

Whats 'SBTGOG' ?

:)

Sorry quoted wrong *Should have been "SaintsBTGOG".

He knows who he is.

yeh got it now, sorry bit slow on the old uptake...:)

Also did someone say 'New york newyork?

Didn't Le Tiss own the 'celebration plaza' down by the london hotel at some point?

ottostrasser wrote:

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

ottostrasser wrote: Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that. Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.

God i hope youre not a Saints fan. Matt never led any pinnacle bid. Matts simply been responding to the actions of Cortese. Like banning him from buying tickets !! You are clueless

Clueless eh Our Sainted Matt was the figurehead of the Pinnacle .The guys not the sharpest tool in the box and was probably promised the Chairmans job or something. You remember Pinnacle the company that nearly put the Leibherr family off buying our club ? I think thats where Matts bitterness comes from. I think he would rather Saints were some cuddly club in League One with him and Big Lawrie in charge.Every success that Cortese has puts that dream further away.

ottostrasser wrote:
Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that.
Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.

rednwhite72 wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

rednwhite72 wrote:
sorry I don't get the post above?

Whats 'SBTGOG' ?

:)

Sorry quoted wrong *Should have been "SaintsBTGOG".

He knows who he is.

yeh got it now, sorry bit slow on the old uptake...:)

Also did someone say 'New york newyork?

Didn't Le Tiss own the 'celebration plaza' down by the london hotel at some point?

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
IMO le tiss is only 2nd to channon, and that is only because the former was in the fa cup winning team and clubs top goal scorer. Paine is 3rd.
Cortese is missing a trick with le'tiss who should be made an ambassador for the club. In fact these 3 players along with mc menemy should be used to increase the clubs profile, as the are true fans of the club even though big l mac did do the jump to Sunderland.
If I were cortèse and an olive branch was being offered I would snatch it, got to be better pr than doing a staged interview with jim from sky!
Does worry me that on other thread, cortèse feels he has the football expertise to relieve Adkins, seeing that we had lost 2 in previous 12 and were appearing to turn a corner. I think these are the fears of a lot of saint supporters, but we pray things will turn out. Actions speak louder than words and against most fans wishes Adkins is sacked and most of our previous heros hate him! What are fans to think?

We can debate the issue until the cows come home, but there are so many possibilities in the mix. I wouldn't have thought that NC would have made an arbitrary independent decision, it would have been based on discussion with the rest of the decision makers surely? Although his word was final.

I think a good chairman is never seen and never heard!

rednwhite72 wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

rednwhite72 wrote:
sorry I don't get the post above?

Whats 'SBTGOG' ?

:)

Sorry quoted wrong *Should have been "SaintsBTGOG".

He knows who he is.

yeh got it now, sorry bit slow on the old uptake...:)

Also did someone say 'New york newyork?

Didn't Le Tiss own the 'celebration plaza' down by the london hotel at some point?

slugger wrote:

rednwhite72 wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

rednwhite72 wrote:
sorry I don't get the post above?

Whats 'SBTGOG' ?

:)

Sorry quoted wrong *Should have been "SaintsBTGOG".

He knows who he is.

yeh got it now, sorry bit slow on the old uptake...:)

Also did someone say 'New york newyork?

Didn't Le Tiss own the 'celebration plaza' down by the london hotel at some point?

I was a member , constantly told that there would be "celebrity" bar staff (soton player ect) .. never happend .......... spoke to him in there once when it was hot enough to boil an egg in the mineral water ..... I suggested the place could do with air-con , he said "10 grand ? .... put up with it" ..... true that .

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!

Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.

I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.

No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!

Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.

I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.

No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?

That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off.

I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.

F Fan wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.

I suggest there are a couple of holes in your argument here:

Both sides are gagged in a compromise agreement. NC can no more comment on it than NA can.

No one knows whether the Club or Benali was in the right. But I wouldn't let someone who sued me on my premises - would you?

MLT on Twitter accusing NC of lying and setting the terms of a meeting (witnesses!) is another brick, not an olive branch.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

F Fan wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Look I really want to get behind Cortese and his vision for the club, but he makes it hard.

As soon as a manager goes rumours start about either humping players wives or losing the dressing room. However, as part of their severance pay they are gagged by a Compromise Agreement so we never hear their version.

Benali is banned because he rented his house to the club who wanted it for Cortese when he first arrived. The carpets were replaced with wooden flooring and curtains with blinds. He asked for it to be reinstated, it wasn't, so he sued and was banned. He sued the club because his contract was with it. I suppose the judge will decide but most letting contracts include reinstatement.

I'm all for being ruthless in business (do a bit myself) but don't mix that up with vindictive. Theboorer may have gone on about Solent Interiors but his point was correct. The club didn't pay, SI sued, the club failed to submit a defence and won in court.

I heard several stories first hand from people who worked/work at the club that point more to poor man management than anything else. Axe to grind we may say, but I'm talking about quite a few people.

I like everyone else want this to be the real deal and support it. However, it's right that some, like Le Tiss, question otherwise we might act like lemmings or ostriches. Remember that is exactly what the skunts did and look where it's led them.

Support Cortese yes. But accountability is crucial.

I suggest there are a couple of holes in your argument here:

Both sides are gagged in a compromise agreement. NC can no more comment on it than NA can.

No one knows whether the Club or Benali was in the right. But I wouldn't let someone who sued me on my premises - would you?

MLT on Twitter accusing NC of lying and setting the terms of a meeting (witnesses!) is another brick, not an olive branch.

F Fan as I said I really want to fully believe in this vision.

A CA is not necessarily two way as the organisation paying the money has the upper hand, offer more and buy silence.

The Benali thing I've heard first hand. Again as I said if they can't reach a deal the judge will decide - which will be a matter of public record.

As Matt is in the media spot light it's in both parties interests to bury the hatchet. An independant witness has to be a good thing for what I consider to be very obvious reasons. Transparency in any business is a good thing provided it doesn't compromise the business interests such as a bid for a player.

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote:

Velleity wrote:

three halves wrote: Well said Tiss,show Cortese up for what he is, i know who i believe and it is not Cortese.

Why would this story even interest a non-supporter who has never set foot in the ground? You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are, You're Kent and we know you are... Time for a new identity for you so you can post with at least a tiny bit of credibility.

And you are who exactly ?

I'm a bloke with one sign on, not three halves/force141/kent 141/southamptondomin ance. I post what I truly believe rather than what will antagonise. I don't claim to have a season ticket so I can pretend to tear it up in anger at NC. I don't call people idiots (except maybe you). I don't take part in anti-Portsmouth bashing. I don't post on the Portsmouth News site. (why would I, I'm a Saints fan and I have friends to talk to). You're a rather sad little inadequate, lonely person whom I pity. Poor thing.

but ur friends here post on the news site. so u r guilty by association, and as sad as them

I didn't vote for them to post on The News site, it is not actually a crime so I am not guilty of anything. I posted just once, to point out a certain sock puppet wasn't what he was pretending to be, several Saints posters have been sending sensible advice, well worth paying attention to and several posters on The News site pretend to be Saints when they are nothing of the sort, they usually end up giving themselves away. You should spend your time on there and not on here, unless you can find something sensible to say, I dare you. I doubt you and currently I despise you.

diddems gramps. u r responsible for a quarter of all posts on here. u need 2 get out and meet real people.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!

Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.

I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.

No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?

That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off. I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.

Fair enough, Maybe Osprey Velleity, or........ Echo, any idea? You after all claim to be in the know, publish accounts and stuff.

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

Baddesley Bill wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

Totally agree....the hatchet buried would be a good thing to see for all concerned.

But let's not get any wires crossed here.

MLT is a true legend from the pitch.

NC is a hardnosed businessman.

I know which one I would prefer to see on the pitch...and I know which one I'd prefer to have in the boardroom. COYR

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

Linesman wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

Totally agree....the hatchet buried would be a good thing to see for all concerned.

But let's not get any wires crossed here.

MLT is a true legend from the pitch.

NC is a hardnosed businessman.

I know which one I would prefer to see on the pitch...and I know which one I'd prefer to have in the boardroom. COYR

Agreed, but the businessman has got involved in what happens on the pitch.

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

saintshorse101 wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!

Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.

I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.

No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?

That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off. I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.

Fair enough, Maybe Osprey Velleity, or........ Echo, any idea? You after all claim to be in the know, publish accounts and stuff.

lets not forget that the owners, whoever that may be, converted £33mill of debt/loans into shares last year/season. so make of that what you will but i cant see NC being allowed to make that decision without the approval of the liebherr family.
the one thing about saints that we may not like is how everthing is kept `in house` from transfers to who owns the shares, we should be doing all we can to ensure we dont end up like hat lot down the road! we should ask the awkward questions and we should demand answers! we did not let the dark lord do everything he wanted and withdrew support when he returned, which eventually resulted in the admin.
nc could help alleviate our concerns by doing a fans forum.

Red n White wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Five Trophies Between Us wrote: MLT seems to represent a bygone age of values, integrity and loyalty. NC seems to epitomise the new age, Money, Ruthlessness and Disloyalty. I looks like lots of ur fans have already made the decsion of which way they want the club 2 go. Will any of NC's managers have enough time 2 have success?

More than any of yours. How many days is it now?

cant answer my question

Your comment implies that neither Pardew nor Adkins brought success to us, which would mean that Cortese was right in getting rid of them.
Who do we as fans owe loyalty to though; the club, the chairman, the manager, the players? The only long term (in most cases) is the club, which is run by the chairman, who mostly more money, which is the result of a successful club. Therefore, we should back the chairman as they are the long-term, whereas managers are only for the short-term.
The latest rumour is that NA lost the players, if so who do we owe loyalty to there, the players or the manager? Surely as a skate you would have realised the importance of good money management?! We spent up to £30 million, I doubt Cortese is willing to see it wasted by going straight back down.

slugger wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .

Linesman wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

Totally agree....the hatchet buried would be a good thing to see for all concerned.

But let's not get any wires crossed here.

MLT is a true legend from the pitch.

NC is a hardnosed businessman.

I know which one I would prefer to see on the pitch...and I know which one I'd prefer to have in the boardroom. COYR

Agreed, but the businessman has got involved in what happens on the pitch.

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .

I know Matt fairly well. Desperate he is not.

Linesman wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

Totally agree....the hatchet buried would be a good thing to see for all concerned.

But let's not get any wires crossed here.

MLT is a true legend from the pitch.

NC is a hardnosed businessman.

I know which one I would prefer to see on the pitch...and I know which one I'd prefer to have in the boardroom. COYR

Agreed, but the businessman has got involved in what happens on the pitch.

slugger wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Linesman wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

Totally agree....the hatchet buried would be a good thing to see for all concerned.

But let's not get any wires crossed here.

MLT is a true legend from the pitch.

NC is a hardnosed businessman.

I know which one I would prefer to see on the pitch...and I know which one I'd prefer to have in the boardroom. COYR

Agreed, but the businessman has got involved in what happens on the pitch.

The individual who told me about the ownership situation also stated categorically that NC does not try and pick the team. I also have no doubt about that from conversations I had with both managers and players.

ghk230473 wrote:

slugger wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .

The echo and matt do appear to be chucking a lot of mud at cortèse, not sure if le tiss has been mis quoted? if he has been tweeting it is a bit cheap.
Le tiss is my era, and although I don't believe he kept us up, I do believe he was a main contributor.
The interview with cortèse and sky seemed a bit of a pr stunt. I feel if cortèse means what he says he and le tiss will agree to disagree and bury their differences. I don't think either need each other, as a fan I would love le tiss involved and it could only be positive.

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .

I know Matt fairly well. Desperate he is not.

That wasn't the question ...... being as you've butted in i'll ask you the same .

ghk230473 wrote:

slugger wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .

The echo and matt do appear to be chucking a lot of mud at cortèse, not sure if le tiss has been mis quoted? if he has been tweeting it is a bit cheap.
Le tiss is my era, and although I don't believe he kept us up, I do believe he was a main contributor.
The interview with cortèse and sky seemed a bit of a pr stunt. I feel if cortèse means what he says he and le tiss will agree to disagree and bury their differences. I don't think either need each other, as a fan I would love le tiss involved and it could only be positive.

slugger wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

slugger wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .

The echo and matt do appear to be chucking a lot of mud at cortèse, not sure if le tiss has been mis quoted? if he has been tweeting it is a bit cheap.
Le tiss is my era, and although I don't believe he kept us up, I do believe he was a main contributor.
The interview with cortèse and sky seemed a bit of a pr stunt. I feel if cortèse means what he says he and le tiss will agree to disagree and bury their differences. I don't think either need each other, as a fan I would love le tiss involved and it could only be positive.

Good answer imo ........ mountains and molehills really .

Thornhill Saint wrote:

slugger wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

slugger wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .

The echo and matt do appear to be chucking a lot of mud at cortèse, not sure if le tiss has been mis quoted? if he has been tweeting it is a bit cheap.
Le tiss is my era, and although I don't believe he kept us up, I do believe he was a main contributor.
The interview with cortèse and sky seemed a bit of a pr stunt. I feel if cortèse means what he says he and le tiss will agree to disagree and bury their differences. I don't think either need each other, as a fan I would love le tiss involved and it could only be positive.

Good answer imo ........ mountains and molehills really .

Something tells me until they settle the Benali issue and he becomes unbanned, there will never be peace,

While Le Tiss feels his mate is wronged I would suppose he will always have an axe to grind.

For this reason (sorry MGRA) I can't buy the interests mutually exclusive thing for the moment anyways.

slugger wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .

MGRA wrote:
"I don't believe he kept us up" !?!?
proof that absolute sh1t is posted on this forum !! Possibly the most stupid statement ever posted..... seriously, who else thinks that "Matt did not keep us up" Just what planet were you on when those games/seasons were taking place !?!?

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

slugger wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .

And there in lines the rub slugger. It's not about who's got the biggest ****, it's about the best interests of SFC. There can be no doubt that the clubs interests are best served by a truce.

MGRA wrote:
"I don't believe he kept us up" !?!?
proof that absolute sh1t is posted on this forum !! Possibly the most stupid statement ever posted..... seriously, who else thinks that "Matt did not keep us up" Just what planet were you on when those games/seasons were taking place !?!?

ghk230473 wrote:
Le tiss has carved a good career out of his punditry, I may be biased but he's better than the other lot!
I have never met him but read his book and spoke to those that have. He comes across well and loves the club, he never left! I may be sentimental but I think he has a lot to offer us. Just his presence around the stadium would give all a huge lift and he would be a calming influence on the players and accademy lads

andysaints007 wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!

Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.

I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.

No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?

That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off. I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.

Fair enough, Maybe Osprey Velleity, or........ Echo, any idea? You after all claim to be in the know, publish accounts and stuff.

lets not forget that the owners, whoever that may be, converted £33mill of debt/loans into shares last year/season. so make of that what you will but i cant see NC being allowed to make that decision without the approval of the liebherr family. the one thing about saints that we may not like is how everthing is kept `in house` from transfers to who owns the shares, we should be doing all we can to ensure we dont end up like hat lot down the road! we should ask the awkward questions and we should demand answers! we did not let the dark lord do everything he wanted and withdrew support when he returned, which eventually resulted in the admin. nc could help alleviate our concerns by doing a fans forum.

Go away and wind your neck in you pratt!! The way we are run now is the 'proper' way - as a business! If we want to succeed and survive then there is no other way! Fans forums are a load of old sh*te - especially the type of pr*cks that get involved like Nick Illingsworth etc etc...

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:
"I don't believe he kept us up" !?!?
proof that absolute sh1t is posted on this forum !! Possibly the most stupid statement ever posted..... seriously, who else thinks that "Matt did not keep us up" Just what planet were you on when those games/seasons were taking place !?!?

MGRA...We all know MLT's contribution on the pitch was a contributing factor to us staying up for 2-3 seasons. To be fair...he did have some team mates too.

If you do know MLT well...then you probably take a little less of an independent view than the rest of us here...which is understandable.

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Le tiss has carved a good career out of his punditry, I may be biased but he's better than the other lot!
I have never met him but read his book and spoke to those that have. He comes across well and loves the club, he never left! I may be sentimental but I think he has a lot to offer us. Just his presence around the stadium would give all a huge lift and he would be a calming influence on the players and accademy lads

he is a genuine man. its as simple as that.... and a TRUE saint.... a Saints legend and those who have started to erase in their own minds what he did for our club should hang their heads in shame.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Le tiss has carved a good career out of his punditry, I may be biased but he's better than the other lot!
I have never met him but read his book and spoke to those that have. He comes across well and loves the club, he never left! I may be sentimental but I think he has a lot to offer us. Just his presence around the stadium would give all a huge lift and he would be a calming influence on the players and accademy lads

he is a genuine man. its as simple as that.... and a TRUE saint.... a Saints legend and those who have started to erase in their own minds what he did for our club should hang their heads in shame.

I still have the "unbelievable" video mate...and it is still unbeleivably superb!

The issue is one of who makes the decisions....MLT's amazing contribution on the pitch does not make him a decision maker from one end of a twitter account.

We all want him to have some positive input...but if the main honcho don't want it...then he don't want it.

As stated earlier...it's his ball/trainset.

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote: Le tiss has carved a good career out of his punditry, I may be biased but he's better than the other lot! I have never met him but read his book and spoke to those that have. He comes across well and loves the club, he never left! I may be sentimental but I think he has a lot to offer us. Just his presence around the stadium would give all a huge lift and he would be a calming influence on the players and accademy lads

he is a genuine man. its as simple as that.... and a TRUE saint.... a Saints legend and those who have started to erase in their own minds what he did for our club should hang their heads in shame.

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .

I know Matt fairly well. Desperate he is not.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!

Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.

I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.

No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?

That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off.

I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.

andysaints007 wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote: When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons. A scenario. What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive? MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself. As for the Echo? Vendetta? Who on who? Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team. I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!

Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.

I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.

No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?

That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off. I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.

Fair enough, Maybe Osprey Velleity, or........ Echo, any idea? You after all claim to be in the know, publish accounts and stuff.

lets not forget that the owners, whoever that may be, converted £33mill of debt/loans into shares last year/season. so make of that what you will but i cant see NC being allowed to make that decision without the approval of the liebherr family.
the one thing about saints that we may not like is how everthing is kept `in house` from transfers to who owns the shares, we should be doing all we can to ensure we dont end up like hat lot down the road! we should ask the awkward questions and we should demand answers! we did not let the dark lord do everything he wanted and withdrew support when he returned, which eventually resulted in the admin.
nc could help alleviate our concerns by doing a fans forum.

Go away and wind your neck in you pratt!!
The way we are run now is the 'proper' way - as a business! If we want to succeed and survive then there is no other way!
Fans forums are a load of old sh*te - especially the type of pr*cks that get involved like Nick Illingsworth etc etc...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

ottostrasser wrote:
Why would Cortese welcome Matt anyway ? Matt led the appalling Pinnacle bid that almost destroyed our club and since then has used the media to incessantly attack Cortese. Probably out of bitterness. If I was NC I would ban him altogether but no doubt Matt would be straight to his cronies in the press whingeing about that.
Matt youre history now shut up and let the experts run the club.

milton road wrote:
Matt was a fantastic player who should have had at least 50 england caps.
If he is genuine he wants to talk to Cortese, then arrange it in private and have the integrity afterwards to keep his mouth shut about it.
However well intentioned he put a deal together for the club that held up the Markus process for weeks, then fell apart and became the biggest joke in football at the time, unless of course you were a Saints fan.
Cortese put together a deal that has seen this club rise from the ashes and become something again.
People wonder why Cortese doesn't get into the petty media circus, well I think the last three articles on here show why. I think people gobbing off on twitter shows why.
Cortese may not be perfect, who is? but he is a **** sight better than Lowe, Crouch or Wilde and most of the other mumpties at football clubs.
Whether people like it or not the business side of the club is none of our business. The club like any other provides a product, we either pay to see it or we don't. No different than a cinema for example or theater.
The fact we align to the club and get emotional over it is our choice. Whether it is Barcelona, M Utd, that is the way football is now.
We are swamped by foreigners in our game who give lip service to the badge
but in reality look to build a rep and bigger wage packet to clear off to another club.
You get the exceptions, agreed, like Morgan.
We are the heart and soul of the club agreed. Our passion for the game is what makes it so emotive.
People like the echo play on that. They want Cortese out because he is not user friendly in their case. They will try and use you to create desencion. Just remember if Cortese goes, the dream goes along with the owners.
Many people with very short memories on here. Three and a half years ago our club was basically gone. Its thanks to Cortese and Markus we still have one, no one else.

Red n White wrote:

roofspace wrote:
100% of Saints are grateful for Le God saving us from certain relegation during his playing days.
100% like And respect him.
100% of fans are grateful to Mr Cortese for saving our club from oblivion.
0% like or admire him (apart from the sycopants).
Now why would that be?

I don't have much respect for Le Tissier as a person since he finished his football career. He has taken every opportunity to knock Cortese publicly, on Twitter, TV and even at charity events.
I admire Cortese for his vision for the club. You may have been happy to bounce between the Championship and Premiership, but myself I want to see Saints rise up the table, and it's Cortese's vision to get us into Europe so I respect and like him.
Don't talk like you represent every Saints fan, or are you hoping for an interview from the Echo?

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!

Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.

I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

From your posts I can tell you are sincere and you are spot on.
Same as I can tell that le tiss is saints thru n thru, after all he spent his whole career with us, maybe that is his problem? But how can it be, cortèse should take that and use as a positive. It is interesting that matt has offered the olive branch, makes him the bigger man IMO. All I know is saints would be stronger with the pair singing from the same hymn sheet.
Here's hoping..... Coyr

ghk , i'll ask you one question ..... Who needs who's backing more ...... Matty who seems to air his laundry in public or Nicola who seems to just get on with it ? ............ I know who I think appears the more desperate .

I know Matt fairly well. Desperate he is not.

milton road wrote:
Matt was a fantastic player who should have had at least 50 england caps.
If he is genuine he wants to talk to Cortese, then arrange it in private and have the integrity afterwards to keep his mouth shut about it.
However well intentioned he put a deal together for the club that held up the Markus process for weeks, then fell apart and became the biggest joke in football at the time, unless of course you were a Saints fan.
Cortese put together a deal that has seen this club rise from the ashes and become something again.
People wonder why Cortese doesn't get into the petty media circus, well I think the last three articles on here show why. I think people gobbing off on twitter shows why.
Cortese may not be perfect, who is? but he is a **** sight better than Lowe, Crouch or Wilde and most of the other mumpties at football clubs.
Whether people like it or not the business side of the club is none of our business. The club like any other provides a product, we either pay to see it or we don't. No different than a cinema for example or theater.
The fact we align to the club and get emotional over it is our choice. Whether it is Barcelona, M Utd, that is the way football is now.
We are swamped by foreigners in our game who give lip service to the badge
but in reality look to build a rep and bigger wage packet to clear off to another club.
You get the exceptions, agreed, like Morgan.
We are the heart and soul of the club agreed. Our passion for the game is what makes it so emotive.
People like the echo play on that. They want Cortese out because he is not user friendly in their case. They will try and use you to create desencion. Just remember if Cortese goes, the dream goes along with the owners.
Many people with very short memories on here. Three and a half years ago our club was basically gone. Its thanks to Cortese and Markus we still have one, no one else.

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Le tiss has carved a good career out of his punditry, I may be biased but he's better than the other lot!
I have never met him but read his book and spoke to those that have. He comes across well and loves the club, he never left! I may be sentimental but I think he has a lot to offer us. Just his presence around the stadium would give all a huge lift and he would be a calming influence on the players and accademy lads

he is a genuine man. its as simple as that.... and a TRUE saint.... a Saints legend and those who have started to erase in their own minds what he did for our club should hang their heads in shame.

I still have the "unbelievable" video mate...and it is still unbeleivably superb!

The issue is one of who makes the decisions....MLT's amazing contribution on the pitch does not make him a decision maker from one end of a twitter account.

We all want him to have some positive input...but if the main honcho don't want it...then he don't want it.

As stated earlier...it's his ball/trainset.

the club is the sum of its parts, past and present in my opinion. Without heretige its just a USA baseball game with popcorn, corndogs, flat coke and "batta batta batta saaaaawing batta" chants.

since 1885 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!

Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.

I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.

No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?

That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off.

I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.

He can't tell you coz he is blagging! He probably's been speaking to the tea lady. What a doughnut!

Alex297 wrote:

milton road wrote:
Matt was a fantastic player who should have had at least 50 england caps.
If he is genuine he wants to talk to Cortese, then arrange it in private and have the integrity afterwards to keep his mouth shut about it.
However well intentioned he put a deal together for the club that held up the Markus process for weeks, then fell apart and became the biggest joke in football at the time, unless of course you were a Saints fan.
Cortese put together a deal that has seen this club rise from the ashes and become something again.
People wonder why Cortese doesn't get into the petty media circus, well I think the last three articles on here show why. I think people gobbing off on twitter shows why.
Cortese may not be perfect, who is? but he is a **** sight better than Lowe, Crouch or Wilde and most of the other mumpties at football clubs.
Whether people like it or not the business side of the club is none of our business. The club like any other provides a product, we either pay to see it or we don't. No different than a cinema for example or theater.
The fact we align to the club and get emotional over it is our choice. Whether it is Barcelona, M Utd, that is the way football is now.
We are swamped by foreigners in our game who give lip service to the badge
but in reality look to build a rep and bigger wage packet to clear off to another club.
You get the exceptions, agreed, like Morgan.
We are the heart and soul of the club agreed. Our passion for the game is what makes it so emotive.
People like the echo play on that. They want Cortese out because he is not user friendly in their case. They will try and use you to create desencion. Just remember if Cortese goes, the dream goes along with the owners.
Many people with very short memories on here. Three and a half years ago our club was basically gone. Its thanks to Cortese and Markus we still have one, no one else.

Brilliantly and simply put my views in to words ,thank you.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!

Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.

I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.

No disrespect Seedhouse, but can you reveal who told you on Monday night and is there any evidence that this is true?

That's a perfectly fair question. Too many on here try and claim to be 'in the know' and I'm really not trying to do that. However certain confidences have to be respected. I can't prove it to you or to me but the individual is very substantial and has no axe to grind and he certainly is in a position to know what he's talking about. It was merely information in a chat over dinner before kick off.

I would guess it wouldn't be too difficult to ascertain, it's a matter of record. Which legal entity owns the shares and what is the the make up of that board. One for Osprey or Velleity to work on I suggest.

He can't tell you coz he is blagging! He probably's been speaking to the tea lady. What a doughnut!

How many sign ons have you actually got? Quite impressive.

since 1885 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

Is that what your "club informant" told you. Ha ha ha, what a first class prat! I think you're a little carried away with yourself mush.

saintly sanity wrote:
It was surprising that Nigel Adkins was dismissed; but I am sure he was suitably compensated and that he will find another managerial position in British Football. Almost all football Managers get sacked at some stage in their careers and their compensation packages at the highest levels reflect this. Limit your tears.

What nonsense is this about Matt Le Tissier? Le Tissier was undoubtedly a great footballer for Southampton and we all honour and respect that – and he has gone on to carve a career as a game pundit. That is all he is, a pundit now, a good one but still merely a pundit.

Why should owners meet pundits? Cortese is an unabashed businessman who controls the finances and the destinies at Southampton - he is answerable to his Board and to the ultimate owners and it is they who have the right to comment. I have no more influence on SFC than I do Tescos, and quite right too, I have bought products and services from both but I can but from others if I am =m unhappy.

Mr Cortese will be judged by his results and we will simply have to wait and see what happens next – I wish him well.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

SaintsBTGOG wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
When NC sacked Nigel he probably told the Liebherr family that he was going to and they allowed him to.He must have told themhis reasons.
A scenario.
What if MLT and his consortium had bought the club and were faced with a decision of when to sack a manager to move up to the next level, or just to survive?
MLT has the heart of most supporters because of his football skills. His business acumen is still a little suspect, and sometimes he says things that he would hve beenbetter off keeping to himself.
As for the Echo?
Vendetta?
Who on who?
Need to wind their collective knecks in and start to report some good stories about MY team.
I do not buy the paper simply for that reason!

Cortese simply has to answer to his former employers and nobody else. Liebherr family have no interest other than Markus sister coming to a couple of games when shes heading to Ireland on business.

I was told last Monday night that the shares of the club are owned by the Liebherr family trust and that NC has to report to the trust. I was also told that NC is chairman of the trust.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You only have to look at this thread to see the fans have been split over the whole Cortese thing. Some say he can't be trusted and is bad. Some say he saved the club and is the messiah.

I'm trying to tread the middle ground and believe that potentially this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saints. BUT I believe in accountability whether that's Guly, Rickie, Pardew, Adkins or Cortese. Blind trust can lead to a serious fall.

Is that what your "club informant" told you. Ha ha ha, what a first class prat! I think you're a little carried away with yourself mush.

Hello Kent me old mate. How the devil are you?

since 1885 wrote:
Seed Osprey whoever you are. If you really did have a contact high up i don't think he'd appreciate you coming on a Saints thread blabbing all these club secrets he'd have told you on the hush. Would he really risk his job to tell you stuff that you would then blab on here! Even if you don't name him you're still stiching him up! Just doesn't add up. How can I put it Billy, liar liar panties on fire! About sums it up sunshine!

three halves wrote:

since 1885 wrote:
Seed Osprey whoever you are. If you really did have a contact high up i don't think he'd appreciate you coming on a Saints thread blabbing all these club secrets he'd have told you on the hush. Would he really risk his job to tell you stuff that you would then blab on here! Even if you don't name him you're still stiching him up! Just doesn't add up. How can I put it Billy, liar liar panties on fire! About sums it up sunshine!

Excellent post.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

three halves wrote:

since 1885 wrote:
Seed Osprey whoever you are. If you really did have a contact high up i don't think he'd appreciate you coming on a Saints thread blabbing all these club secrets he'd have told you on the hush. Would he really risk his job to tell you stuff that you would then blab on here! Even if you don't name him you're still stiching him up! Just doesn't add up. How can I put it Billy, liar liar panties on fire! About sums it up sunshine!

Excellent post.

Replying to yourself again Kent?

You off to the High Court on Wednesday? Should be fun. Saints beat Manure and the judge shuts the skunts down all in one day. What joy.

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:
"I don't believe he kept us up" !?!?
proof that absolute sh1t is posted on this forum !! Possibly the most stupid statement ever posted..... seriously, who else thinks that "Matt did not keep us up" Just what planet were you on when those games/seasons were taking place !?!?

MGRA...We all know MLT's contribution on the pitch was a contributing factor to us staying up for 2-3 seasons. To be fair...he did have some team mates too.

If you do know MLT well...then you probably take a little less of an independent view than the rest of us here...which is understandable.

there were two seasons where he single handedly kept us up. Those that were there remember the games.... yes he had mates but there is no doubt. Without Matt in those two seasons we would have been relegated. Personally, I value his contributions as a saints player for his footy and also his time he has given to Hope Lodge and the Austistic society over the years with the club and on his own time.

milton road wrote:
Strass I was talking foreign players in today's market and generally, not so much Saints. Sorry maybe i should of made that clearer.