Southampton boss Mauricio Pochettino faces defensive dilemma as Jose Fonte returns

Saints face defensive dilemma

Jose Fonte

Jos Hooiveld

Vegard Forren

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One of Alan Pardew’s best Saints buys is hoping to be fit enough to face his former boss.

Centre half Jose Fonte, recruited by Pardew for £1.2m three years ago, is on the verge of a first team comeback as Saints travel to Newcastle a week on Sunday.

As revealed by the Daily Echo at the time of his knee injury, Fonte has been ruled out for six weeks since being stretchered off during the FA Cup defeat to Chelsea.

During his time on the sidelines he has seen Nigel Adkins replaced as manager by Mauricio Pochettino, Vegard Forren recruited in his position at a cost of £4m and Jos Hooiveld, pictured, form an increasingly impressive partnership with Maya Yoshida.

It is sure to be a battle for Fonte to win back his place in the side but the Portuguese had been growing into the role of a top flight centre half before his injury struck.

But at least he is now closing on a first team return with the game at St James’ Park the current target.

Pochettino has a clear weekend thanks to that FA Cup defeat to Chelsea to prepare his team for the Newcastle match.

Though Saints hardly missed any of their injured first team players as they defeated champions Manchester City 3-1 at St Mary’s, he will be happy to have a fully fit squad to choose from as soon as possible.

His four other injured squad members are also expected to return in time for the Newcastle game.

Luke Shaw and Gaston Ramirez both missed the win over City but are pencilled in for a return in time for Newcastle.

Danny Fox limped off during the City victory but a fortnight to recover should see him ready to return while Guly do Prado is also expected back after a knee injury.

Whether Pochettino will be able to fit any of them into the side remains to be seen.Even captain Adam Lallana has still not broken back into the starting line up after a spell on the sidelines, such has been the form of Pochettino’s men.

Fonte will no doubt be keen to face off against the man who recruited him from Crystal Palace.

At the time the move to Saints was a drop in divisions for Fonte but in 137 appearances for the club he has played a major role in helping the side to back-to-back promotions to earn a place in the top flight.

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7:24am Tue 12 Feb 13

Blandford Saints says...

Forren is left sided, so not replcement for Jose. Picture is not Hooiveld!,

Good report??!!
Forren is left sided, so not replcement for Jose. Picture is not Hooiveld!, Good report??!! Blandford Saints
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7:56am Tue 12 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

DEUX
DEUX Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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8:08am Tue 12 Feb 13

Hobson82 says...

Jose will deifnatley have a battle on his hands to get his position back. Jos and Maya look solid at the moment. Does everyone know that Jos can speak Japanese? True story.
Jose will deifnatley have a battle on his hands to get his position back. Jos and Maya look solid at the moment. Does everyone know that Jos can speak Japanese? True story. Hobson82
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8:12am Tue 12 Feb 13

Dazzler79 says...

Not really a Dilemma.
Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back.
Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him.
Quite easy team selection really!!
Not really a Dilemma. Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back. Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him. Quite easy team selection really!! Dazzler79
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8:14am Tue 12 Feb 13

mbetts says...

Good time to have a break this weekend, hopefully we can buck our recent trend after having a week off and come out the traps firing with a few of the players that are injured with niggling injuries back in the team, I know you shouldn't change a winning team but adding Shaw and Ramirez to the team that played city and we're good to go for the final push towards safety
Good time to have a break this weekend, hopefully we can buck our recent trend after having a week off and come out the traps firing with a few of the players that are injured with niggling injuries back in the team, I know you shouldn't change a winning team but adding Shaw and Ramirez to the team that played city and we're good to go for the final push towards safety mbetts
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8:24am Tue 12 Feb 13

Dubai-saints89 says...

Tough on Fonte as Hoovield has been on form (surprisingly considering his woeful start at the beginning). extremely impressed with Yoshida. hes getting to grips with the English game. feel bad for forren. so highly rated back in noway i want to see him in action.
fox played well against citeh but rather have shaw in his place any day.
Tough on Fonte as Hoovield has been on form (surprisingly considering his woeful start at the beginning). extremely impressed with Yoshida. hes getting to grips with the English game. feel bad for forren. so highly rated back in noway i want to see him in action. fox played well against citeh but rather have shaw in his place any day. Dubai-saints89
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8:27am Tue 12 Feb 13

lemon cake says...

mbetts wrote:
Good time to have a break this weekend, hopefully we can buck our recent trend after having a week off and come out the traps firing with a few of the players that are injured with niggling injuries back in the team, I know you shouldn't change a winning team but adding Shaw and Ramirez to the team that played city and we're good to go for the final push towards safety
Tonight i shall be supporting Hartlepool....come on you 'Monkey hangers' stick another nail in the pompey coffin.
[quote][p][bold]mbetts[/bold] wrote: Good time to have a break this weekend, hopefully we can buck our recent trend after having a week off and come out the traps firing with a few of the players that are injured with niggling injuries back in the team, I know you shouldn't change a winning team but adding Shaw and Ramirez to the team that played city and we're good to go for the final push towards safety[/p][/quote]Tonight i shall be supporting Hartlepool....come on you 'Monkey hangers' stick another nail in the pompey coffin. lemon cake
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8:27am Tue 12 Feb 13

Puddletown Saint says...

Good article Echo. Lets have a debate about the Saints starting XI if all fit. Mine would be;

Boruc Clyne Shaw Fonte Forren Cork Spider Punch Adam Jay Rickie

Gazza Fox Yos JWP Gaston Maka and S Davis

Gaston just seems a bit of luxury at the moment. Your thoughts.
Good article Echo. Lets have a debate about the Saints starting XI if all fit. Mine would be; Boruc Clyne Shaw Fonte Forren Cork Spider Punch Adam Jay Rickie Gazza Fox Yos JWP Gaston Maka and S Davis Gaston just seems a bit of luxury at the moment. Your thoughts. Puddletown Saint
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8:29am Tue 12 Feb 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw!

Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck!
It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw! Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck! Bring back Branfoot
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8:41am Tue 12 Feb 13

SFCOLDBOY says...

It will be dificult for Jose to dislodge anyone at this moment.
Yosi and Jos are looking a very good pairing.
He was becoming a very good prem CH and a fixture in the team before his setback.
Thats football!
He will have to wait his time like all the rest of our squad.
Aint it great to have quality players on the side lines available.
We are slowly joining the big boys.
COYR
p.s.
These threads lately have been a joy to read.
(with a few moronic exceptions).
The Echo has hopefully listened to our pleas to have more possitive items.
The threads' general feeling seems to be far more upbeat.
Long may this last.
It will be dificult for Jose to dislodge anyone at this moment. Yosi and Jos are looking a very good pairing. He was becoming a very good prem CH and a fixture in the team before his setback. Thats football! He will have to wait his time like all the rest of our squad. Aint it great to have quality players on the side lines available. We are slowly joining the big boys. COYR p.s. These threads lately have been a joy to read. (with a few moronic exceptions). The Echo has hopefully listened to our pleas to have more possitive items. The threads' general feeling seems to be far more upbeat. Long may this last. SFCOLDBOY
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8:45am Tue 12 Feb 13

Sainty saint saint says...

Dazzler79 wrote:
Not really a Dilemma.
Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back.
Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him.
Quite easy team selection really!!
Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...
[quote][p][bold]Dazzler79[/bold] wrote: Not really a Dilemma. Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back. Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him. Quite easy team selection really!![/p][/quote]Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people... Sainty saint saint
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8:45am Tue 12 Feb 13

Red n White says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw!

Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck!
I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball.
With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them!
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw! Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck![/p][/quote]I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball. With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them! Red n White
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8:47am Tue 12 Feb 13

db_3 says...

I never thought Fonte was good enough for the PL. I see him as a second string player now.
I never thought Fonte was good enough for the PL. I see him as a second string player now. db_3
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8:48am Tue 12 Feb 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

Red n White wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw!

Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck!
I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball.
With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them!
No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing!
[quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw! Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck![/p][/quote]I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball. With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them![/p][/quote]No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing! Bring back Branfoot
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8:54am Tue 12 Feb 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
Dazzler79 wrote:
Not really a Dilemma.
Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back.
Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him.
Quite easy team selection really!!
Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...
Exactly what I was thinking, SaintySaintSaint. I wonder why some people bother.
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dazzler79[/bold] wrote: Not really a Dilemma. Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back. Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him. Quite easy team selection really!![/p][/quote]Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...[/p][/quote]Exactly what I was thinking, SaintySaintSaint. I wonder why some people bother. Strasbourg Saint
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9:00am Tue 12 Feb 13

SFCOLDBOY says...

db_3 wrote:
I never thought Fonte was good enough for the PL. I see him as a second string player now.
I watched him playing for us in Div 1 and I said he should be playing at prem level then.
He was a very sound buy and has proved his worth.
He seems to lose his way when he has layoffs, particularly after injury.
Last season was an example, he injured his toe, it took a long time healing,and he wasn't the same player until the very end of the season,when he was outstanding.

This season he had grown into this league only to become injured once more.
Very good player i.m.o.
COYS.
[quote][p][bold]db_3[/bold] wrote: I never thought Fonte was good enough for the PL. I see him as a second string player now.[/p][/quote]I watched him playing for us in Div 1 and I said he should be playing at prem level then. He was a very sound buy and has proved his worth. He seems to lose his way when he has layoffs, particularly after injury. Last season was an example, he injured his toe, it took a long time healing,and he wasn't the same player until the very end of the season,when he was outstanding. This season he had grown into this league only to become injured once more. Very good player i.m.o. COYS. SFCOLDBOY
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9:03am Tue 12 Feb 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Football can be tough. Jose was in the form of his life, he had nailed down a start ahead of Jos and was possibly favourite to partner Veg when he was ready. Now, he might be behind all three of them.

Likewise, what chance of a start right now do Guly and Ramirez (and even Lallana) have? Davis has stepped up and JWP has hardly put a foot wrong. Ironically, the one whose place may be most under threat is Punch.

Just where does this run of form leave Lee? At least Mayuka has age on his side.

If I were Woy, my next England 11 would be:
Davis, Clyne, Martin, Seebourne, Shaw, Cork, JWP, Lallana, Rodriguez, Puncheon, Lambert.

Don't panic about the defence, with Cork and JWP in front of them, they'll not be needed. :)
Football can be tough. Jose was in the form of his life, he had nailed down a start ahead of Jos and was possibly favourite to partner Veg when he was ready. Now, he might be behind all three of them. Likewise, what chance of a start right now do Guly and Ramirez (and even Lallana) have? Davis has stepped up and JWP has hardly put a foot wrong. Ironically, the one whose place may be most under threat is Punch. Just where does this run of form leave Lee? At least Mayuka has age on his side. If I were Woy, my next England 11 would be: Davis, Clyne, Martin, Seebourne, Shaw, Cork, JWP, Lallana, Rodriguez, Puncheon, Lambert. Don't panic about the defence, with Cork and JWP in front of them, they'll not be needed. :) Strasbourg Saint
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9:09am Tue 12 Feb 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

The thing to bear in mind about Mancini's comments is that he is literally dancing for his job. City's European expedition was a total unmitigated disaster and the club's Premiership aspirations all but evaporated on Saturday.

Now he's left with some angry owners who have pumped a lot of money into the club and probably expected another title and maybe Champions league success. Bertie has to think on his feet and come up with any plausible excuse! Remember Jose Mourhinio looks like he's had his fill of Spain and is making serious noises about returning to the Premiership. Don't be surprised to see City get him. Bertie should be worried!
The thing to bear in mind about Mancini's comments is that he is literally dancing for his job. City's European expedition was a total unmitigated disaster and the club's Premiership aspirations all but evaporated on Saturday. Now he's left with some angry owners who have pumped a lot of money into the club and probably expected another title and maybe Champions league success. Bertie has to think on his feet and come up with any plausible excuse! Remember Jose Mourhinio looks like he's had his fill of Spain and is making serious noises about returning to the Premiership. Don't be surprised to see City get him. Bertie should be worried! Bring back Branfoot
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9:12am Tue 12 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Jay Rod has certainly improved his all round game and contribution to the team. He was a bit too keen to get up when brought down and so we didn't get the pen. Probably as a result of the Villa game when he was accused of diving. He has however got to start scoring more.

Punch needs to play because he does get a few goals.
Jay Rod has certainly improved his all round game and contribution to the team. He was a bit too keen to get up when brought down and so we didn't get the pen. Probably as a result of the Villa game when he was accused of diving. He has however got to start scoring more. Punch needs to play because he does get a few goals. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:17am Tue 12 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

The problem when any player comes back is match fitness...I aould feed Jose in slowly in the second half if we are not at risk...

..returning from injury and bearing in mind those wayward touches he has when not quite on his game means now is not the time Kato regarding the team to fix it if it a'int broken..
The problem when any player comes back is match fitness...I aould feed Jose in slowly in the second half if we are not at risk... ..returning from injury and bearing in mind those wayward touches he has when not quite on his game means now is not the time Kato regarding the team to fix it if it a'int broken.. warrens 76
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9:19am Tue 12 Feb 13

Clever Dick says...

It just means we will have a very strong subs bench. The side should stay as is with the possible exception of Shaw for Fox. I thought Fox did ok against ManC and it was his crossfield ball to SRL which led to the second goal. Shaw is better though. Give the others a run out when we are 3 up!!
It just means we will have a very strong subs bench. The side should stay as is with the possible exception of Shaw for Fox. I thought Fox did ok against ManC and it was his crossfield ball to SRL which led to the second goal. Shaw is better though. Give the others a run out when we are 3 up!! Clever Dick
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9:20am Tue 12 Feb 13

saint in dordogne says...

saints have 12 games left with a possible 36 points if we win all of them we would have more points then liverpool had last season that just got them a place in europe so you never know mirecles do happen!!!!!!!
saints have 12 games left with a possible 36 points if we win all of them we would have more points then liverpool had last season that just got them a place in europe so you never know mirecles do happen!!!!!!! saint in dordogne
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9:28am Tue 12 Feb 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

I can't wait to see Forren in action for us. Fonte's a good player but prone to lapses in judgement. And with Jos and Yoshi looking so compatible he might find himself in fourth place in the CB pecking order. Good to have him back though.
I can't wait to see Forren in action for us. Fonte's a good player but prone to lapses in judgement. And with Jos and Yoshi looking so compatible he might find himself in fourth place in the CB pecking order. Good to have him back though. Bring back Branfoot
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9:29am Tue 12 Feb 13

Ross123 says...

I think fonte is still much better than hoover, fonte can also score goals from corners!

hoovers only had 1-2 good games,

fonte has had more good games.

so fonte gets my recall with yoshida.

Forren will only get his chance if shaw gets injured, shame.
I think fonte is still much better than hoover, fonte can also score goals from corners! hoovers only had 1-2 good games, fonte has had more good games. so fonte gets my recall with yoshida. Forren will only get his chance if shaw gets injured, shame. Ross123
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9:38am Tue 12 Feb 13

Tirau Dan says...

saint in dordogne wrote:
saints have 12 games left with a possible 36 points if we win all of them we would have more points then liverpool had last season that just got them a place in europe so you never know mirecles do happen!!!!!!!
Love your thinking.. I'll have some of that. Viva Los Santos only team in the South..
[quote][p][bold]saint in dordogne[/bold] wrote: saints have 12 games left with a possible 36 points if we win all of them we would have more points then liverpool had last season that just got them a place in europe so you never know mirecles do happen!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Love your thinking.. I'll have some of that. Viva Los Santos only team in the South.. Tirau Dan
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9:42am Tue 12 Feb 13

Saintjock says...

db_3 wrote:
I never thought Fonte was good enough for the PL. I see him as a second string player now.
Have you watched Fonte this season? The last few games before the Chelsea cup game Fonte was outstanding and well up to Prem standard.
Think you must be mixing him up with Forte, who's a different kettle of fish.
Oops did someone mention fish?
[quote][p][bold]db_3[/bold] wrote: I never thought Fonte was good enough for the PL. I see him as a second string player now.[/p][/quote]Have you watched Fonte this season? The last few games before the Chelsea cup game Fonte was outstanding and well up to Prem standard. Think you must be mixing him up with Forte, who's a different kettle of fish. Oops did someone mention fish? Saintjock
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9:46am Tue 12 Feb 13

Clever Dick says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
Dazzler79 wrote:
Not really a Dilemma.
Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back.
Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him.
Quite easy team selection really!!
Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...
Yes you are spot on. Unfortunately for Guly he wasn't involved in that fantastic win Saturday. The knockers can't really criticise all the other guys who have also come in for stick (J-Rod, Hoover, Gaston, Foxy, Yoshida, Boruc etc etc) because they are doing well and getting results So now they are falling back on the old favourite. I'm sure he will prove them all wrong just like all the others have. If the manager picks him get behind him and give him some encouragement. You'd be surprised what a difference some added self confidence can make.
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dazzler79[/bold] wrote: Not really a Dilemma. Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back. Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him. Quite easy team selection really!![/p][/quote]Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...[/p][/quote]Yes you are spot on. Unfortunately for Guly he wasn't involved in that fantastic win Saturday. The knockers can't really criticise all the other guys who have also come in for stick (J-Rod, Hoover, Gaston, Foxy, Yoshida, Boruc etc etc) because they are doing well and getting results So now they are falling back on the old favourite. I'm sure he will prove them all wrong just like all the others have. If the manager picks him get behind him and give him some encouragement. You'd be surprised what a difference some added self confidence can make. Clever Dick
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9:49am Tue 12 Feb 13

Winman says...

Puddletown Saint wrote:
Good article Echo. Lets have a debate about the Saints starting XI if all fit. Mine would be; Boruc Clyne Shaw Fonte Forren Cork Spider Punch Adam Jay Rickie Gazza Fox Yos JWP Gaston Maka and S Davis Gaston just seems a bit of luxury at the moment. Your thoughts.
I agree, but also maybe it's less about the starting XI and more about the team that can challenge the way the opposition play, with seamless replacements coming in. In other words, 90+ minutes of pressure football from 14 players (including Guly, who has learnt to tackle and head under MP (probably 'cos he's had the words translated for him from english to spanish to portuguese!)
[quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: Good article Echo. Lets have a debate about the Saints starting XI if all fit. Mine would be; Boruc Clyne Shaw Fonte Forren Cork Spider Punch Adam Jay Rickie Gazza Fox Yos JWP Gaston Maka and S Davis Gaston just seems a bit of luxury at the moment. Your thoughts.[/p][/quote]I agree, but also maybe it's less about the starting XI and more about the team that can challenge the way the opposition play, with seamless replacements coming in. In other words, 90+ minutes of pressure football from 14 players (including Guly, who has learnt to tackle and head under MP (probably 'cos he's had the words translated for him from english to spanish to portuguese!) Winman
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9:51am Tue 12 Feb 13

Tongdii says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Dazzler79 wrote:
Not really a Dilemma.
Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back.
Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him.
Quite easy team selection really!!
Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...
Exactly what I was thinking, SaintySaintSaint. I wonder why some people bother.
Funny how some people like Guly & fox go through life being damned if they do, & damned if they don't.

My brother suffers the same infliction.

Last year on a hot summers day his next door neighbour decided she would sunbathe in the nude in her back garden.

It wasn't long before the police knocked on my brothers door as the woman next door had complained he was a Peeping Tom

A few weeks later my brother decided to sunbathe in the nude on a hot summers day only for the police to knock on his door as the woman next door had complained he was Exposing himself.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dazzler79[/bold] wrote: Not really a Dilemma. Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back. Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him. Quite easy team selection really!![/p][/quote]Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...[/p][/quote]Exactly what I was thinking, SaintySaintSaint. I wonder why some people bother.[/p][/quote]Funny how some people like Guly & fox go through life being damned if they do, & damned if they don't. My brother suffers the same infliction. Last year on a hot summers day his next door neighbour decided she would sunbathe in the nude in her back garden. It wasn't long before the police knocked on my brothers door as the woman next door had complained he was a Peeping Tom A few weeks later my brother decided to sunbathe in the nude on a hot summers day only for the police to knock on his door as the woman next door had complained he was Exposing himself. Tongdii
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9:56am Tue 12 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Tongdii wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Dazzler79 wrote:
Not really a Dilemma.
Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back.
Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him.
Quite easy team selection really!!
Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...
Exactly what I was thinking, SaintySaintSaint. I wonder why some people bother.
Funny how some people like Guly & fox go through life being damned if they do, & damned if they don't.

My brother suffers the same infliction.

Last year on a hot summers day his next door neighbour decided she would sunbathe in the nude in her back garden.

It wasn't long before the police knocked on my brothers door as the woman next door had complained he was a Peeping Tom

A few weeks later my brother decided to sunbathe in the nude on a hot summers day only for the police to knock on his door as the woman next door had complained he was Exposing himself.
That woman for you..never satisfied!
[quote][p][bold]Tongdii[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dazzler79[/bold] wrote: Not really a Dilemma. Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back. Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him. Quite easy team selection really!![/p][/quote]Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...[/p][/quote]Exactly what I was thinking, SaintySaintSaint. I wonder why some people bother.[/p][/quote]Funny how some people like Guly & fox go through life being damned if they do, & damned if they don't. My brother suffers the same infliction. Last year on a hot summers day his next door neighbour decided she would sunbathe in the nude in her back garden. It wasn't long before the police knocked on my brothers door as the woman next door had complained he was a Peeping Tom A few weeks later my brother decided to sunbathe in the nude on a hot summers day only for the police to knock on his door as the woman next door had complained he was Exposing himself.[/p][/quote]That woman for you..never satisfied! warrens 76
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10:12am Tue 12 Feb 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
Dazzler79 wrote:
Not really a Dilemma.
Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back.
Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him.
Quite easy team selection really!!
Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...
He has been poor for the majority of the season, and when he's been mediocre we've all turned cartwheels! I think Stoke was probably his best, but even in that game he missed a good opportunity.
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dazzler79[/bold] wrote: Not really a Dilemma. Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back. Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him. Quite easy team selection really!![/p][/quote]Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...[/p][/quote]He has been poor for the majority of the season, and when he's been mediocre we've all turned cartwheels! I think Stoke was probably his best, but even in that game he missed a good opportunity. Bring back Branfoot
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10:12am Tue 12 Feb 13

Clever Dick says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Tongdii wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Dazzler79 wrote:
Not really a Dilemma.
Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back.
Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him.
Quite easy team selection really!!
Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...
Exactly what I was thinking, SaintySaintSaint. I wonder why some people bother.
Funny how some people like Guly & fox go through life being damned if they do, & damned if they don't.

My brother suffers the same infliction.

Last year on a hot summers day his next door neighbour decided she would sunbathe in the nude in her back garden.

It wasn't long before the police knocked on my brothers door as the woman next door had complained he was a Peeping Tom

A few weeks later my brother decided to sunbathe in the nude on a hot summers day only for the police to knock on his door as the woman next door had complained he was Exposing himself.
That woman for you..never satisfied!
That's true equality at work!!
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tongdii[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dazzler79[/bold] wrote: Not really a Dilemma. Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back. Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him. Quite easy team selection really!![/p][/quote]Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...[/p][/quote]Exactly what I was thinking, SaintySaintSaint. I wonder why some people bother.[/p][/quote]Funny how some people like Guly & fox go through life being damned if they do, & damned if they don't. My brother suffers the same infliction. Last year on a hot summers day his next door neighbour decided she would sunbathe in the nude in her back garden. It wasn't long before the police knocked on my brothers door as the woman next door had complained he was a Peeping Tom A few weeks later my brother decided to sunbathe in the nude on a hot summers day only for the police to knock on his door as the woman next door had complained he was Exposing himself.[/p][/quote]That woman for you..never satisfied![/p][/quote]That's true equality at work!! Clever Dick
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10:15am Tue 12 Feb 13

Folkestone Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
DEUX
Pronounced 'derr', excissive use of that word can be heard at the east end of the m27
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: DEUX[/p][/quote]Pronounced 'derr', excissive use of that word can be heard at the east end of the m27 Folkestone Saint
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10:23am Tue 12 Feb 13

SaintZed says...

For me Jos is too slow, yes he did well against ManC, but if you look at the goal we conceeded at ManU both imo were his fault. I'm not talking about his running speed over 10-50yards but his movement and speed of thought in the first 2-3yards. He is constantly caught out and whilst it wasn't an issue in the Championship at this level it is far too evident.

Also, Fox was at fault for the goal we conceeded against ManC. Firstly he completely misjudged the ball to him from the corner and then when ManC broke away he ran back (making it look like he was trying) only to give up leaving Clyne to cover both the middle and flank. I don't think its related to his fitness as it was still in the first half, I think he just can't be bothered and gives up far too easily. There is evidence of this earlier in the season against West Brom where he did the exact same, after this game NA dropped him for Shaw.

For me its got to be Fonte and Shaw to replace Jos and Fox.
For me Jos is too slow, yes he did well against ManC, but if you look at the goal we conceeded at ManU both imo were his fault. I'm not talking about his running speed over 10-50yards but his movement and speed of thought in the first 2-3yards. He is constantly caught out and whilst it wasn't an issue in the Championship at this level it is far too evident. Also, Fox was at fault for the goal we conceeded against ManC. Firstly he completely misjudged the ball to him from the corner and then when ManC broke away he ran back (making it look like he was trying) only to give up leaving Clyne to cover both the middle and flank. I don't think its related to his fitness as it was still in the first half, I think he just can't be bothered and gives up far too easily. There is evidence of this earlier in the season against West Brom where he did the exact same, after this game NA dropped him for Shaw. For me its got to be Fonte and Shaw to replace Jos and Fox. SaintZed
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10:28am Tue 12 Feb 13

Gazzman says...

I don't know why I keep torturing myself by looking at some of the rubbish on here, it would be interesting to know how many actually go to all the games or are either plastic fans or die hard radio Solent listeners, firstly those who keep saying keep to the present team that's winning and how formidable JWP is good one, he is not 1st choice he's been on the bench since the new manager came in, and for all the Guly haters look at the stats and see his goal ratio to the amount of games he has played and compare it to others with the same amount of games. Just to help some of you St Mary's is off Northam Rd and Saints play in the red shirts, so see you next time Saints play one of the top teams
I don't know why I keep torturing myself by looking at some of the rubbish on here, it would be interesting to know how many actually go to all the games or are either plastic fans or die hard radio Solent listeners, firstly those who keep saying keep to the present team that's winning and how formidable JWP is good one, he is not 1st choice he's been on the bench since the new manager came in, and for all the Guly haters look at the stats and see his goal ratio to the amount of games he has played and compare it to others with the same amount of games. Just to help some of you St Mary's is off Northam Rd and Saints play in the red shirts, so see you next time Saints play one of the top teams Gazzman
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10:29am Tue 12 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Dazzler79 wrote:
Not really a Dilemma.
Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back.
Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him.
Quite easy team selection really!!
Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...
He has been poor for the majority of the season, and when he's been mediocre we've all turned cartwheels! I think Stoke was probably his best, but even in that game he missed a good opportunity.
Once again BbB I find myself agreeing with you...

....in recent games he has certainly tried, however every team has people who 'try' my sunday team had people who try....

....Guly offends people because he is one of tose players who flatters to deceive...

..players of lesser talent can be forgiven because they can only work with what they have got..

Guly continually misses sitters ( for a quality player) and just is not up for it the way for example Davis is who probably has less natural ability..

Trying harder for the last few games does not cut it, the commitment and desire when pulling on our shirt should be a given, period...

and with his inherent talent and everyones else's tooth and claw attitude
he should be so much more and deep down the fans sense that....

..however if his commitment becomes absolute and he starts scoring and not bottlng I will certainly support him..he a'int there by a long shot though.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dazzler79[/bold] wrote: Not really a Dilemma. Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back. Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him. Quite easy team selection really!![/p][/quote]Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...[/p][/quote]He has been poor for the majority of the season, and when he's been mediocre we've all turned cartwheels! I think Stoke was probably his best, but even in that game he missed a good opportunity.[/p][/quote]Once again BbB I find myself agreeing with you... ....in recent games he has certainly tried, however every team has people who 'try' my sunday team had people who try.... ....Guly offends people because he is one of tose players who flatters to deceive... ..players of lesser talent can be forgiven because they can only work with what they have got.. Guly continually misses sitters ( for a quality player) and just is not up for it the way for example Davis is who probably has less natural ability.. Trying harder for the last few games does not cut it, the commitment and desire when pulling on our shirt should be a given, period... and with his inherent talent and everyones else's tooth and claw attitude he should be so much more and deep down the fans sense that.... ..however if his commitment becomes absolute and he starts scoring and not bottlng I will certainly support him..he a'int there by a long shot though. warrens 76
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10:31am Tue 12 Feb 13

Iwozthere says...

BIG win Saturday as important as any I've seen for years! Fonte 's been excellent for us but like Claus Lundetc.a few years ago his age has started to allow strong opponents to muscle him out of it a bit and I reckon the 'new' game might 'find him out' too often.JR's ideal for this game plan but we need him to be a bit more composed in front of goal. Anyway, don't give a monkeys at the moment...Outstanding
!!!
BIG win Saturday as important as any I've seen for years! Fonte 's been excellent for us but like Claus Lundetc.a few years ago his age has started to allow strong opponents to muscle him out of it a bit and I reckon the 'new' game might 'find him out' too often.JR's ideal for this game plan but we need him to be a bit more composed in front of goal. Anyway, don't give a monkeys at the moment...Outstanding !!! Iwozthere
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10:34am Tue 12 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Gazzman wrote:
I don't know why I keep torturing myself by looking at some of the rubbish on here, it would be interesting to know how many actually go to all the games or are either plastic fans or die hard radio Solent listeners, firstly those who keep saying keep to the present team that's winning and how formidable JWP is good one, he is not 1st choice he's been on the bench since the new manager came in, and for all the Guly haters look at the stats and see his goal ratio to the amount of games he has played and compare it to others with the same amount of games. Just to help some of you St Mary's is off Northam Rd and Saints play in the red shirts, so see you next time Saints play one of the top teams
You are way out of line..most of the comment are from truly loyal attendees or worldwide Saints who stream games they cannot go to..ie 90 minutes viewing not MOTD lowlights...

Since when the crocodile hat did the number of games played have to do with anything?

It is the number of chances he has had and blown that has irritated people..it is not personal to Guly per se..any player with his talent who continually blows match winning opportunities would face the same opprobrium.
[quote][p][bold]Gazzman[/bold] wrote: I don't know why I keep torturing myself by looking at some of the rubbish on here, it would be interesting to know how many actually go to all the games or are either plastic fans or die hard radio Solent listeners, firstly those who keep saying keep to the present team that's winning and how formidable JWP is good one, he is not 1st choice he's been on the bench since the new manager came in, and for all the Guly haters look at the stats and see his goal ratio to the amount of games he has played and compare it to others with the same amount of games. Just to help some of you St Mary's is off Northam Rd and Saints play in the red shirts, so see you next time Saints play one of the top teams[/p][/quote]You are way out of line..most of the comment are from truly loyal attendees or worldwide Saints who stream games they cannot go to..ie 90 minutes viewing not MOTD lowlights... Since when the crocodile hat did the number of games played have to do with anything? It is the number of chances he has had and blown that has irritated people..it is not personal to Guly per se..any player with his talent who continually blows match winning opportunities would face the same opprobrium. warrens 76
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10:36am Tue 12 Feb 13

Readeano says...

SaintZed wrote:
For me Jos is too slow, yes he did well against ManC, but if you look at the goal we conceeded at ManU both imo were his fault. I'm not talking about his running speed over 10-50yards but his movement and speed of thought in the first 2-3yards. He is constantly caught out and whilst it wasn't an issue in the Championship at this level it is far too evident.

Also, Fox was at fault for the goal we conceeded against ManC. Firstly he completely misjudged the ball to him from the corner and then when ManC broke away he ran back (making it look like he was trying) only to give up leaving Clyne to cover both the middle and flank. I don't think its related to his fitness as it was still in the first half, I think he just can't be bothered and gives up far too easily. There is evidence of this earlier in the season against West Brom where he did the exact same, after this game NA dropped him for Shaw.

For me its got to be Fonte and Shaw to replace Jos and Fox.
Are you having a laugh about blaming fox for that? Seriously some people.

That ball was so bad for him its not his fault. Obviously he was the intended target however the ball was placed so high up in the air any opposition could see the intention and take it off him.

Even if he had not attacked it with the intention to shoot and try and get it in the middle he would have been outmuscled against toure due to height.

This guy along with Clyne, Hooveild and Yoshida need massive praise. They only conceeded 1 goal against Manchester City.

The whole team deserve merit and praise.

Get off players backs and support the team no matter what. What more can you ask for? No goals to be conceeded? wake up and smell the coffee its the Prem
[quote][p][bold]SaintZed[/bold] wrote: For me Jos is too slow, yes he did well against ManC, but if you look at the goal we conceeded at ManU both imo were his fault. I'm not talking about his running speed over 10-50yards but his movement and speed of thought in the first 2-3yards. He is constantly caught out and whilst it wasn't an issue in the Championship at this level it is far too evident. Also, Fox was at fault for the goal we conceeded against ManC. Firstly he completely misjudged the ball to him from the corner and then when ManC broke away he ran back (making it look like he was trying) only to give up leaving Clyne to cover both the middle and flank. I don't think its related to his fitness as it was still in the first half, I think he just can't be bothered and gives up far too easily. There is evidence of this earlier in the season against West Brom where he did the exact same, after this game NA dropped him for Shaw. For me its got to be Fonte and Shaw to replace Jos and Fox.[/p][/quote]Are you having a laugh about blaming fox for that? Seriously some people. That ball was so bad for him its not his fault. Obviously he was the intended target however the ball was placed so high up in the air any opposition could see the intention and take it off him. Even if he had not attacked it with the intention to shoot and try and get it in the middle he would have been outmuscled against toure due to height. This guy along with Clyne, Hooveild and Yoshida need massive praise. They only conceeded 1 goal against Manchester City. The whole team deserve merit and praise. Get off players backs and support the team no matter what. What more can you ask for? No goals to be conceeded? wake up and smell the coffee its the Prem Readeano
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10:38am Tue 12 Feb 13

only1chopper says...

I think with more competition for the position of CB, that could be a reason for hoovers impressive performances, plus yoshida i think is going to be playing along side Forren, once match fit, for the foreseeable future. With Clyne and Shaw at full back, we have a solid back 4. Cork and Spider protecting them, our forward quartet can push on and get the goals.
the effect our new manager has had so far has really been encouraging, by all accounts, he had espanyol playing the same kind of way before he had all his best players sold, and he is having the same effect on saints. Our squad players will start to also benefit on his fitness programme, which it pains me to say Guly. I admit I am not his greatest fan, but if Poch can get the best out of him, then i will be almost pro team Guly.
I think with more competition for the position of CB, that could be a reason for hoovers impressive performances, plus yoshida i think is going to be playing along side Forren, once match fit, for the foreseeable future. With Clyne and Shaw at full back, we have a solid back 4. Cork and Spider protecting them, our forward quartet can push on and get the goals. the effect our new manager has had so far has really been encouraging, by all accounts, he had espanyol playing the same kind of way before he had all his best players sold, and he is having the same effect on saints. Our squad players will start to also benefit on his fitness programme, which it pains me to say Guly. I admit I am not his greatest fan, but if Poch can get the best out of him, then i will be almost pro team Guly. only1chopper
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10:39am Tue 12 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

SaintZed wrote:
For me Jos is too slow, yes he did well against ManC, but if you look at the goal we conceeded at ManU both imo were his fault. I'm not talking about his running speed over 10-50yards but his movement and speed of thought in the first 2-3yards. He is constantly caught out and whilst it wasn't an issue in the Championship at this level it is far too evident.

Also, Fox was at fault for the goal we conceeded against ManC. Firstly he completely misjudged the ball to him from the corner and then when ManC broke away he ran back (making it look like he was trying) only to give up leaving Clyne to cover both the middle and flank. I don't think its related to his fitness as it was still in the first half, I think he just can't be bothered and gives up far too easily. There is evidence of this earlier in the season against West Brom where he did the exact same, after this game NA dropped him for Shaw.

For me its got to be Fonte and Shaw to replace Jos and Fox.
Good observations like for like equally fit then Fonte is a given...however match fitness has caught himout before..

Fox..unlike Guly I am not sure whether I would question his commitment overall, however I have not studied the games as well as you clearly have...

However if our 'lesser' players can improve it's only to our benefit..
[quote][p][bold]SaintZed[/bold] wrote: For me Jos is too slow, yes he did well against ManC, but if you look at the goal we conceeded at ManU both imo were his fault. I'm not talking about his running speed over 10-50yards but his movement and speed of thought in the first 2-3yards. He is constantly caught out and whilst it wasn't an issue in the Championship at this level it is far too evident. Also, Fox was at fault for the goal we conceeded against ManC. Firstly he completely misjudged the ball to him from the corner and then when ManC broke away he ran back (making it look like he was trying) only to give up leaving Clyne to cover both the middle and flank. I don't think its related to his fitness as it was still in the first half, I think he just can't be bothered and gives up far too easily. There is evidence of this earlier in the season against West Brom where he did the exact same, after this game NA dropped him for Shaw. For me its got to be Fonte and Shaw to replace Jos and Fox.[/p][/quote]Good observations like for like equally fit then Fonte is a given...however match fitness has caught himout before.. Fox..unlike Guly I am not sure whether I would question his commitment overall, however I have not studied the games as well as you clearly have... However if our 'lesser' players can improve it's only to our benefit.. warrens 76
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10:41am Tue 12 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

only1chopper wrote:
I think with more competition for the position of CB, that could be a reason for hoovers impressive performances, plus yoshida i think is going to be playing along side Forren, once match fit, for the foreseeable future. With Clyne and Shaw at full back, we have a solid back 4. Cork and Spider protecting them, our forward quartet can push on and get the goals.
the effect our new manager has had so far has really been encouraging, by all accounts, he had espanyol playing the same kind of way before he had all his best players sold, and he is having the same effect on saints. Our squad players will start to also benefit on his fitness programme, which it pains me to say Guly. I admit I am not his greatest fan, but if Poch can get the best out of him, then i will be almost pro team Guly.
Yes something is lacking in Guly and it is not talent..if fitness and speed of game is the answer good for him..and us.
[quote][p][bold]only1chopper[/bold] wrote: I think with more competition for the position of CB, that could be a reason for hoovers impressive performances, plus yoshida i think is going to be playing along side Forren, once match fit, for the foreseeable future. With Clyne and Shaw at full back, we have a solid back 4. Cork and Spider protecting them, our forward quartet can push on and get the goals. the effect our new manager has had so far has really been encouraging, by all accounts, he had espanyol playing the same kind of way before he had all his best players sold, and he is having the same effect on saints. Our squad players will start to also benefit on his fitness programme, which it pains me to say Guly. I admit I am not his greatest fan, but if Poch can get the best out of him, then i will be almost pro team Guly.[/p][/quote]Yes something is lacking in Guly and it is not talent..if fitness and speed of game is the answer good for him..and us. warrens 76
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10:45am Tue 12 Feb 13

saintmac says...

Will people please stop criticising
Guly and Ramon.
Guly will be able to show his skills to
much better advantage as MP will
have a well defined role for him whenever he is in the team.Under
Nigel Guly was never sure what was expected of him and was often played out of position.
True Ramon has taken time to settle in.
Also he has had injuries and an earlier
personal problem.However, MP is
the man to fully realise Gaston's
potential and I think we will see a different player as the weeks progress.
With regard to Fox he put in a good
shift.His is a different style of player to
Shaw and MP adapted tactics accordingly - something which Nigel
was still getting to grips with.
One swallow does not a summer make
and one brilliant win does not a season make and of course we still have to
get the points to make sure of survival.
There has always been a good team spirit.With this and the new tactics from
MP this young and talented team will
surely be making an impact and will
finish the season mid table.
I admire everything Nigel did for us but
as you know from my posts I felt his
tactical ability was lacking and I was
quite certain that relegation was a real probability.I am sure he learned a lot
and in the future he will be be a manager of a Prem club.
COYRS
Will people please stop criticising Guly and Ramon. Guly will be able to show his skills to much better advantage as MP will have a well defined role for him whenever he is in the team.Under Nigel Guly was never sure what was expected of him and was often played out of position. True Ramon has taken time to settle in. Also he has had injuries and an earlier personal problem.However, MP is the man to fully realise Gaston's potential and I think we will see a different player as the weeks progress. With regard to Fox he put in a good shift.His is a different style of player to Shaw and MP adapted tactics accordingly - something which Nigel was still getting to grips with. One swallow does not a summer make and one brilliant win does not a season make and of course we still have to get the points to make sure of survival. There has always been a good team spirit.With this and the new tactics from MP this young and talented team will surely be making an impact and will finish the season mid table. I admire everything Nigel did for us but as you know from my posts I felt his tactical ability was lacking and I was quite certain that relegation was a real probability.I am sure he learned a lot and in the future he will be be a manager of a Prem club. COYRS saintmac
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10:49am Tue 12 Feb 13

scorpioeyes says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Dazzler79 wrote:
Not really a Dilemma.
Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back.
Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him.
Quite easy team selection really!!
Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...
He has been poor for the majority of the season, and when he's been mediocre we've all turned cartwheels! I think Stoke was probably his best, but even in that game he missed a good opportunity.
guly is definitely surfeit to requirements. no way is he a premiership quality player
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dazzler79[/bold] wrote: Not really a Dilemma. Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back. Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him. Quite easy team selection really!![/p][/quote]Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...[/p][/quote]He has been poor for the majority of the season, and when he's been mediocre we've all turned cartwheels! I think Stoke was probably his best, but even in that game he missed a good opportunity.[/p][/quote]guly is definitely surfeit to requirements. no way is he a premiership quality player scorpioeyes
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10:50am Tue 12 Feb 13

Confucious says...

Clever Dick wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Tongdii wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Dazzler79 wrote:
Not really a Dilemma.
Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back.
Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him.
Quite easy team selection really!!
Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...
Exactly what I was thinking, SaintySaintSaint. I wonder why some people bother.
Funny how some people like Guly & fox go through life being damned if they do, & damned if they don't.

My brother suffers the same infliction.

Last year on a hot summers day his next door neighbour decided she would sunbathe in the nude in her back garden.

It wasn't long before the police knocked on my brothers door as the woman next door had complained he was a Peeping Tom

A few weeks later my brother decided to sunbathe in the nude on a hot summers day only for the police to knock on his door as the woman next door had complained he was Exposing himself.
That woman for you..never satisfied!
That's true equality at work!!
Both my wife and I had neighbor issues because, however much we tried, we just couldn't resist sunbathing in the nude in the garden.

I finally solved the problem by agreeing the missus would only bathe nude whilst playing her accordion and by buying myself a wicker chair.

There's a nudist beach in Dorset that's quite good, but everybody there seems to lose their car keys.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tongdii[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dazzler79[/bold] wrote: Not really a Dilemma. Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back. Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him. Quite easy team selection really!![/p][/quote]Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...[/p][/quote]Exactly what I was thinking, SaintySaintSaint. I wonder why some people bother.[/p][/quote]Funny how some people like Guly & fox go through life being damned if they do, & damned if they don't. My brother suffers the same infliction. Last year on a hot summers day his next door neighbour decided she would sunbathe in the nude in her back garden. It wasn't long before the police knocked on my brothers door as the woman next door had complained he was a Peeping Tom A few weeks later my brother decided to sunbathe in the nude on a hot summers day only for the police to knock on his door as the woman next door had complained he was Exposing himself.[/p][/quote]That woman for you..never satisfied![/p][/quote]That's true equality at work!![/p][/quote]Both my wife and I had neighbor issues because, however much we tried, we just couldn't resist sunbathing in the nude in the garden. I finally solved the problem by agreeing the missus would only bathe nude whilst playing her accordion and by buying myself a wicker chair. There's a nudist beach in Dorset that's quite good, but everybody there seems to lose their car keys. Confucious
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10:56am Tue 12 Feb 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Dazzler79 wrote:
Not really a Dilemma.
Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back.
Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him.
Quite easy team selection really!!
Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...
He has been poor for the majority of the season, and when he's been mediocre we've all turned cartwheels! I think Stoke was probably his best, but even in that game he missed a good opportunity.
Once again BbB I find myself agreeing with you...

....in recent games he has certainly tried, however every team has people who 'try' my sunday team had people who try....

....Guly offends people because he is one of tose players who flatters to deceive...

..players of lesser talent can be forgiven because they can only work with what they have got..

Guly continually misses sitters ( for a quality player) and just is not up for it the way for example Davis is who probably has less natural ability..

Trying harder for the last few games does not cut it, the commitment and desire when pulling on our shirt should be a given, period...

and with his inherent talent and everyones else's tooth and claw attitude
he should be so much more and deep down the fans sense that....

..however if his commitment becomes absolute and he starts scoring and not bottlng I will certainly support him..he a'int there by a long shot though.
Exactly! He flatters to deceive. He looks like a flair player with a few tricks up his sleeve. But all too often he takes an extra touch and over plays it. He also seems rattled as soon as any sort of pressure is put on him. I would have thought opposition players would be told if they hassle and press him and he'll cough up the ball.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dazzler79[/bold] wrote: Not really a Dilemma. Keep same def apart from Fox who is not upto scratch anyway. Shaw will be back. Couldn't give a toss about Guly being back as well,like playing with 10 men with him. Quite easy team selection really!![/p][/quote]Some people just can't give a guy a break can they. Guly played really well the last couple of games he was involved in, but that won't ever be good enough for some people...[/p][/quote]He has been poor for the majority of the season, and when he's been mediocre we've all turned cartwheels! I think Stoke was probably his best, but even in that game he missed a good opportunity.[/p][/quote]Once again BbB I find myself agreeing with you... ....in recent games he has certainly tried, however every team has people who 'try' my sunday team had people who try.... ....Guly offends people because he is one of tose players who flatters to deceive... ..players of lesser talent can be forgiven because they can only work with what they have got.. Guly continually misses sitters ( for a quality player) and just is not up for it the way for example Davis is who probably has less natural ability.. Trying harder for the last few games does not cut it, the commitment and desire when pulling on our shirt should be a given, period... and with his inherent talent and everyones else's tooth and claw attitude he should be so much more and deep down the fans sense that.... ..however if his commitment becomes absolute and he starts scoring and not bottlng I will certainly support him..he a'int there by a long shot though.[/p][/quote]Exactly! He flatters to deceive. He looks like a flair player with a few tricks up his sleeve. But all too often he takes an extra touch and over plays it. He also seems rattled as soon as any sort of pressure is put on him. I would have thought opposition players would be told if they hassle and press him and he'll cough up the ball. Bring back Branfoot
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11:04am Tue 12 Feb 13

SO50 Saint says...

Gazzman says...
10:28am Tue 12 Feb 13

I don't know why I keep torturing myself by looking at some of the rubbish on here, it would be interesting to know how many actually go to all the games or are either plastic fans or die hard radio Solent listeners, firstly those who keep saying keep to the present team that's winning and how formidable JWP is good one, he is not 1st choice he's been on the bench since the new manager came in, and for all the Guly haters look at the stats and see his goal ratio to the amount of games he has played and compare it to others with the same amount of games. Just to help some of you St Mary's is off Northam Rd and Saints play in the red shirts, so see you next time Saints play one of the top teams”

That above is hilarious. How anyone can try and slate JWP who has been fantastic when coming on in the last 2 games is beyond me and play him ahead of Cork and Morgan. And it's off Britannia Road you prize tool
Gazzman says... 10:28am Tue 12 Feb 13 I don't know why I keep torturing myself by looking at some of the rubbish on here, it would be interesting to know how many actually go to all the games or are either plastic fans or die hard radio Solent listeners, firstly those who keep saying keep to the present team that's winning and how formidable JWP is good one, he is not 1st choice he's been on the bench since the new manager came in, and for all the Guly haters look at the stats and see his goal ratio to the amount of games he has played and compare it to others with the same amount of games. Just to help some of you St Mary's is off Northam Rd and Saints play in the red shirts, so see you next time Saints play one of the top teams” That above is hilarious. How anyone can try and slate JWP who has been fantastic when coming on in the last 2 games is beyond me and play him ahead of Cork and Morgan. And it's off Britannia Road you prize tool SO50 Saint
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11:05am Tue 12 Feb 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

You know what, Do Prado might be more effective under Poch. Under Nigel a lot of emphasis was put on holding onto the ball and ultimately winning the possession game. This required Do Prado to hold onto the ball for longer, which is usually when things would go pear shaped for him.

Poch likes the direct approach so will probably be preaching for players to look to make penetrating runs, which means Do Prado would have to off load it quicker.

Crazy as it sounds I hope at some point he's given a chance by Poch.
You know what, Do Prado might be more effective under Poch. Under Nigel a lot of emphasis was put on holding onto the ball and ultimately winning the possession game. This required Do Prado to hold onto the ball for longer, which is usually when things would go pear shaped for him. Poch likes the direct approach so will probably be preaching for players to look to make penetrating runs, which means Do Prado would have to off load it quicker. Crazy as it sounds I hope at some point he's given a chance by Poch. Bring back Branfoot
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11:09am Tue 12 Feb 13

saint_rednwhite says...

Disagree with views on fox - he's done really well against both manchester clubs defensively. Amazing really... once a left back actually plays left back he performs, wherea's under Nigel seem to have to play left wing and we were all wondering... where's our left back gone!!!

Superbe stuff saints!! 4 pts from next 2 will be excellent...
Disagree with views on fox - he's done really well against both manchester clubs defensively. Amazing really... once a left back actually plays left back he performs, wherea's under Nigel seem to have to play left wing and we were all wondering... where's our left back gone!!! Superbe stuff saints!! 4 pts from next 2 will be excellent... saint_rednwhite
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11:11am Tue 12 Feb 13

Beer Monster says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
The thing to bear in mind about Mancini's comments is that he is literally dancing for his job. City's European expedition was a total unmitigated disaster and the club's Premiership aspirations all but evaporated on Saturday.

Now he's left with some angry owners who have pumped a lot of money into the club and probably expected another title and maybe Champions league success. Bertie has to think on his feet and come up with any plausible excuse! Remember Jose Mourhinio looks like he's had his fill of Spain and is making serious noises about returning to the Premiership. Don't be surprised to see City get him. Bertie should be worried!
Agreed. We were discussing this in the pub last night, and came to the conclusion that we're going to shove a couple of bob on Mourinho being Citeh manager by the end of the season.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: The thing to bear in mind about Mancini's comments is that he is literally dancing for his job. City's European expedition was a total unmitigated disaster and the club's Premiership aspirations all but evaporated on Saturday. Now he's left with some angry owners who have pumped a lot of money into the club and probably expected another title and maybe Champions league success. Bertie has to think on his feet and come up with any plausible excuse! Remember Jose Mourhinio looks like he's had his fill of Spain and is making serious noises about returning to the Premiership. Don't be surprised to see City get him. Bertie should be worried![/p][/quote]Agreed. We were discussing this in the pub last night, and came to the conclusion that we're going to shove a couple of bob on Mourinho being Citeh manager by the end of the season. Beer Monster
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11:15am Tue 12 Feb 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Grief! Anyone would think we had just been stuffed by QPR.

Together as one, no?

I just tried listing the current 25-man squad. I think I got it right (Ben Reeves slipped in at 25).

I don't think any of the 25 has let us down this season. All of them have done something good and something bad. Criticise Fox and you have to mention Shaw's lapse at Wigan; mention Guly and you have to question JayRod's chance/conversion rate. All 3 goalies have played their part (Davis made 2 penalty saves early on), all have blundered.

Let's support all of them in this sometimes frustrating but ultimately pivotal season. We can wait until May before looking at where the strengthening needs to happen for that next step - European domination.
Grief! Anyone would think we had just been stuffed by QPR. Together as one, no? I just tried listing the current 25-man squad. I think I got it right (Ben Reeves slipped in at 25). I don't think any of the 25 has let us down this season. All of them have done something good and something bad. Criticise Fox and you have to mention Shaw's lapse at Wigan; mention Guly and you have to question JayRod's chance/conversion rate. All 3 goalies have played their part (Davis made 2 penalty saves early on), all have blundered. Let's support all of them in this sometimes frustrating but ultimately pivotal season. We can wait until May before looking at where the strengthening needs to happen for that next step - European domination. Strasbourg Saint
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11:22am Tue 12 Feb 13

Confucious says...

Puddletown Saint wrote:
Good article Echo. Lets have a debate about the Saints starting XI if all fit. Mine would be;

Boruc Clyne Shaw Fonte Forren Cork Spider Punch Adam Jay Rickie

Gazza Fox Yos JWP Gaston Maka and S Davis

Gaston just seems a bit of luxury at the moment. Your thoughts.
Great - not often I'm asked for my thoughts mate.

If the problem is that the best team selection is written down on a list locked in the club safe - and the combination number for the safe is also locked in the safe - I don't really know the solution to that.

However, I do think Guly should be rested longer if he's injured or if he last night he dreamed he was a butterfly and then woke up this morning and wondered if he was in fact a butterfly dreaming it was a footballer.

Mauricio would also be well advised to tell the players in no uncertain terms that life isn't all beer and skittles. I haven't touched a skittle for thirty years and I've done really well.

The entire squad also needs to realise that a footballer's life can be both boring and dangerous at the same time. At any time as they run towards goal there could be a massive earthquake which swallows them up. But of course that never seems to happen and that makes it rather boring. Instead the players should retain a burning ambition to be what they were when they wanted to be what they are now.
[quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: Good article Echo. Lets have a debate about the Saints starting XI if all fit. Mine would be; Boruc Clyne Shaw Fonte Forren Cork Spider Punch Adam Jay Rickie Gazza Fox Yos JWP Gaston Maka and S Davis Gaston just seems a bit of luxury at the moment. Your thoughts.[/p][/quote]Great - not often I'm asked for my thoughts mate. If the problem is that the best team selection is written down on a list locked in the club safe - and the combination number for the safe is also locked in the safe - I don't really know the solution to that. However, I do think Guly should be rested longer if he's injured or if he last night he dreamed he was a butterfly and then woke up this morning and wondered if he was in fact a butterfly dreaming it was a footballer. Mauricio would also be well advised to tell the players in no uncertain terms that life isn't all beer and skittles. I haven't touched a skittle for thirty years and I've done really well. The entire squad also needs to realise that a footballer's life can be both boring and dangerous at the same time. At any time as they run towards goal there could be a massive earthquake which swallows them up. But of course that never seems to happen and that makes it rather boring. Instead the players should retain a burning ambition to be what they were when they wanted to be what they are now. Confucious
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11:27am Tue 12 Feb 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Grief! Anyone would think we had just been stuffed by QPR.

Together as one, no?

I just tried listing the current 25-man squad. I think I got it right (Ben Reeves slipped in at 25).

I don't think any of the 25 has let us down this season. All of them have done something good and something bad. Criticise Fox and you have to mention Shaw's lapse at Wigan; mention Guly and you have to question JayRod's chance/conversion rate. All 3 goalies have played their part (Davis made 2 penalty saves early on), all have blundered.

Let's support all of them in this sometimes frustrating but ultimately pivotal season. We can wait until May before looking at where the strengthening needs to happen for that next step - European domination.
Well said! These are exciting times and with some wise acquisitions in the summer, next season has the potential to be a lot of fun.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Grief! Anyone would think we had just been stuffed by QPR. Together as one, no? I just tried listing the current 25-man squad. I think I got it right (Ben Reeves slipped in at 25). I don't think any of the 25 has let us down this season. All of them have done something good and something bad. Criticise Fox and you have to mention Shaw's lapse at Wigan; mention Guly and you have to question JayRod's chance/conversion rate. All 3 goalies have played their part (Davis made 2 penalty saves early on), all have blundered. Let's support all of them in this sometimes frustrating but ultimately pivotal season. We can wait until May before looking at where the strengthening needs to happen for that next step - European domination.[/p][/quote]Well said! These are exciting times and with some wise acquisitions in the summer, next season has the potential to be a lot of fun. Bring back Branfoot
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11:29am Tue 12 Feb 13

Clever Dick says...

saint_rednwhite wrote:
Disagree with views on fox - he's done really well against both manchester clubs defensively. Amazing really... once a left back actually plays left back he performs, wherea's under Nigel seem to have to play left wing and we were all wondering... where's our left back gone!!!

Superbe stuff saints!! 4 pts from next 2 will be excellent...
Fox gives his all every game. He may only be fringe Premiership but he puts his body on the line. He has a sweet left foot and is a good squad player. We get an endless stream of supposed supporters knocking the players on here. Those same Fox knockers seem to turn a blind eye when Shaw costs us two points against Stoke. Nothing against Shaw 'cos he looks a fantastic player. Just saying that all players make mistakes at times.
[quote][p][bold]saint_rednwhite[/bold] wrote: Disagree with views on fox - he's done really well against both manchester clubs defensively. Amazing really... once a left back actually plays left back he performs, wherea's under Nigel seem to have to play left wing and we were all wondering... where's our left back gone!!! Superbe stuff saints!! 4 pts from next 2 will be excellent...[/p][/quote]Fox gives his all every game. He may only be fringe Premiership but he puts his body on the line. He has a sweet left foot and is a good squad player. We get an endless stream of supposed supporters knocking the players on here. Those same Fox knockers seem to turn a blind eye when Shaw costs us two points against Stoke. Nothing against Shaw 'cos he looks a fantastic player. Just saying that all players make mistakes at times. Clever Dick
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11:33am Tue 12 Feb 13

Clever Dick says...

Confucious wrote:
Puddletown Saint wrote:
Good article Echo. Lets have a debate about the Saints starting XI if all fit. Mine would be;

Boruc Clyne Shaw Fonte Forren Cork Spider Punch Adam Jay Rickie

Gazza Fox Yos JWP Gaston Maka and S Davis

Gaston just seems a bit of luxury at the moment. Your thoughts.
Great - not often I'm asked for my thoughts mate.

If the problem is that the best team selection is written down on a list locked in the club safe - and the combination number for the safe is also locked in the safe - I don't really know the solution to that.

However, I do think Guly should be rested longer if he's injured or if he last night he dreamed he was a butterfly and then woke up this morning and wondered if he was in fact a butterfly dreaming it was a footballer.

Mauricio would also be well advised to tell the players in no uncertain terms that life isn't all beer and skittles. I haven't touched a skittle for thirty years and I've done really well.

The entire squad also needs to realise that a footballer's life can be both boring and dangerous at the same time. At any time as they run towards goal there could be a massive earthquake which swallows them up. But of course that never seems to happen and that makes it rather boring. Instead the players should retain a burning ambition to be what they were when they wanted to be what they are now.
That's just what I was thinking too!!
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: Good article Echo. Lets have a debate about the Saints starting XI if all fit. Mine would be; Boruc Clyne Shaw Fonte Forren Cork Spider Punch Adam Jay Rickie Gazza Fox Yos JWP Gaston Maka and S Davis Gaston just seems a bit of luxury at the moment. Your thoughts.[/p][/quote]Great - not often I'm asked for my thoughts mate. If the problem is that the best team selection is written down on a list locked in the club safe - and the combination number for the safe is also locked in the safe - I don't really know the solution to that. However, I do think Guly should be rested longer if he's injured or if he last night he dreamed he was a butterfly and then woke up this morning and wondered if he was in fact a butterfly dreaming it was a footballer. Mauricio would also be well advised to tell the players in no uncertain terms that life isn't all beer and skittles. I haven't touched a skittle for thirty years and I've done really well. The entire squad also needs to realise that a footballer's life can be both boring and dangerous at the same time. At any time as they run towards goal there could be a massive earthquake which swallows them up. But of course that never seems to happen and that makes it rather boring. Instead the players should retain a burning ambition to be what they were when they wanted to be what they are now.[/p][/quote]That's just what I was thinking too!! Clever Dick
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11:37am Tue 12 Feb 13

billythesaint says...

PREMIER LEAGUE RECORD WITH JOSE FONTE:
P20
W4
D6
L10
CONCEDED AVERAGE OF 1.9 GOALS PER GAME.

WITHOUT FONTE:
P6
W2
D3
L1 (AWAY AT MAN UTD).

CONCEDED AVERAGE 1.17 GOALS PER GAME.

Please don't put him back in the team!
PREMIER LEAGUE RECORD WITH JOSE FONTE: P20 W4 D6 L10 CONCEDED AVERAGE OF 1.9 GOALS PER GAME. WITHOUT FONTE: P6 W2 D3 L1 (AWAY AT MAN UTD). CONCEDED AVERAGE 1.17 GOALS PER GAME. Please don't put him back in the team! billythesaint
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11:37am Tue 12 Feb 13

milton road says...

Not sure I agree in some of the comments above.
Fox had a good game on Sat until he was injured. Though Shaw is such an exceptional talent that you would pick him first.
Guly has played well in recent games. I think he has talent and ability, like to see if MP can bring it out to its full, still a useful squad player at his best.
Hoov tends to get caught flatfooted check Rooney's 2nd goal, was on his own and never seemed aware of Rooney coming in. He has done well but not sure better than Fonte.
The difference is Yos, He is fast and quick has the pace those two lack, so he can help cover. As for Forren at the moment i do not see how anyone can make him a first choice CB until we have seen him play.
Gaston is either brilliant or frustrating and everything in between. Davies looks a different player under MP. Been impressive. As has Rod, still raw round the edges but more effective.
Adam's time will come, he is still getting match fit and is behind in learning the MP way. Buroc has proved himself and you actually feel fairly confident in the keeper for the first time this season.
Basically we have a squad that has to the end of the season prove itself.

Buroc, Clyne, Yos ? Shaw, JP, Jack, Morgan, Davies, J Rod, RL, subs, Adam, CB, Ramirez, Mayuka or Guly, or Fox, Davies.
Lol guess the manager would like a say in it somewhere.
Not sure I agree in some of the comments above. Fox had a good game on Sat until he was injured. Though Shaw is such an exceptional talent that you would pick him first. Guly has played well in recent games. I think he has talent and ability, like to see if MP can bring it out to its full, still a useful squad player at his best. Hoov tends to get caught flatfooted check Rooney's 2nd goal, was on his own and never seemed aware of Rooney coming in. He has done well but not sure better than Fonte. The difference is Yos, He is fast and quick has the pace those two lack, so he can help cover. As for Forren at the moment i do not see how anyone can make him a first choice CB until we have seen him play. Gaston is either brilliant or frustrating and everything in between. Davies looks a different player under MP. Been impressive. As has Rod, still raw round the edges but more effective. Adam's time will come, he is still getting match fit and is behind in learning the MP way. Buroc has proved himself and you actually feel fairly confident in the keeper for the first time this season. Basically we have a squad that has to the end of the season prove itself. Buroc, Clyne, Yos ? Shaw, JP, Jack, Morgan, Davies, J Rod, RL, subs, Adam, CB, Ramirez, Mayuka or Guly, or Fox, Davies. Lol guess the manager would like a say in it somewhere. milton road
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11:39am Tue 12 Feb 13

milton road says...

lol that line up is just for the Newcastle game.
lol that line up is just for the Newcastle game. milton road
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11:41am Tue 12 Feb 13

milton road says...

Lol Billythe saint, now work it out with Hoov at the back.
Lol Billythe saint, now work it out with Hoov at the back. milton road
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12:03pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Pooley says...

Adam Leitch, You should know perfectly well that a dilemma is a choice between options that are equally unfavorable. Having a fit defence is not. Cheap histrionics to catch the eye should not be the refuge a proper journalist, only the lazy ones. Please try harder. (or was it the editor?)
Adam Leitch, You should know perfectly well that a dilemma is a choice between options that are equally unfavorable. Having a fit defence is not. Cheap histrionics to catch the eye should not be the refuge a proper journalist, only the lazy ones. Please try harder. (or was it the editor?) Pooley
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12:10pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Fox has shown himself to be more than adequate to be cover for Luke Shaw. There is no point in signing an expensive LB on big wages who will have to wait 20 years for his chance to replace Shaw!
Fox has shown himself to be more than adequate to be cover for Luke Shaw. There is no point in signing an expensive LB on big wages who will have to wait 20 years for his chance to replace Shaw! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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12:12pm Tue 12 Feb 13

SO50 Saint says...

Your right there Seed I also feel the same goes for Richardson and Clyne
Your right there Seed I also feel the same goes for Richardson and Clyne SO50 Saint
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12:12pm Tue 12 Feb 13

InCortesewetrust says...

saint in dordogne wrote:
saints have 12 games left with a possible 36 points if we win all of them we would have more points then liverpool had last season that just got them a place in europe so you never know mirecles do happen!!!!!!!
We have a very good chance of Europe regardless of points, as we are second in fair play table behind arsenal, i can't see them finishing outside the European places, so mighty Southampton will be in Europe next year, hopefully with some extra top quality players, we could do ok,
[quote][p][bold]saint in dordogne[/bold] wrote: saints have 12 games left with a possible 36 points if we win all of them we would have more points then liverpool had last season that just got them a place in europe so you never know mirecles do happen!!!!!!![/p][/quote]We have a very good chance of Europe regardless of points, as we are second in fair play table behind arsenal, i can't see them finishing outside the European places, so mighty Southampton will be in Europe next year, hopefully with some extra top quality players, we could do ok, InCortesewetrust
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12:20pm Tue 12 Feb 13

InCortesewetrust says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Fox has shown himself to be more than adequate to be cover for Luke Shaw. There is no point in signing an expensive LB on big wages who will have to wait 20 years for his chance to replace Shaw!
Iv heard young Matt Targett is a very exciting prospect, we do not need to buy a left back to replace Shaw, we have one already in the oven,
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Fox has shown himself to be more than adequate to be cover for Luke Shaw. There is no point in signing an expensive LB on big wages who will have to wait 20 years for his chance to replace Shaw![/p][/quote]Iv heard young Matt Targett is a very exciting prospect, we do not need to buy a left back to replace Shaw, we have one already in the oven, InCortesewetrust
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12:24pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Winman says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Grief! Anyone would think we had just been stuffed by QPR. Together as one, no? I just tried listing the current 25-man squad. I think I got it right (Ben Reeves slipped in at 25). I don't think any of the 25 has let us down this season. All of them have done something good and something bad. Criticise Fox and you have to mention Shaw's lapse at Wigan; mention Guly and you have to question JayRod's chance/conversion rate. All 3 goalies have played their part (Davis made 2 penalty saves early on), all have blundered. Let's support all of them in this sometimes frustrating but ultimately pivotal season. We can wait until May before looking at where the strengthening needs to happen for that next step - European domination.
Spot on!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Grief! Anyone would think we had just been stuffed by QPR. Together as one, no? I just tried listing the current 25-man squad. I think I got it right (Ben Reeves slipped in at 25). I don't think any of the 25 has let us down this season. All of them have done something good and something bad. Criticise Fox and you have to mention Shaw's lapse at Wigan; mention Guly and you have to question JayRod's chance/conversion rate. All 3 goalies have played their part (Davis made 2 penalty saves early on), all have blundered. Let's support all of them in this sometimes frustrating but ultimately pivotal season. We can wait until May before looking at where the strengthening needs to happen for that next step - European domination.[/p][/quote]Spot on! Winman
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12:27pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Norwegian Saint says...

Dubai-saints89 wrote:
Tough on Fonte as Hoovield has been on form (surprisingly considering his woeful start at the beginning). extremely impressed with Yoshida. hes getting to grips with the English game. feel bad for forren. so highly rated back in noway i want to see him in action. fox played well against citeh but rather have shaw in his place any day.
Lets get to safety first fast then try out new positions. (the chap said to his girlfriend!)
I really want to see Forren play as he is a class player but it's hard to break up Hoover and the fantastic Maya.

Yes I am not a great fan of J-Rod... lets face it he missed the goal that Punchy scored and fluffed another chance when through, so I would take him off for Gaston and put Shaw instead of Fox (feel sorry for Fox, been playing great but Shaw is still better)

Guly... well for a brazillian he is not great, can you see him getting in the Brazil team for next year? No, and unfortunately we are getting out of his league. I met the guy, real nice bloke, but just not quite up to our increasing standards.

Saints forever!
[quote][p][bold]Dubai-saints89[/bold] wrote: Tough on Fonte as Hoovield has been on form (surprisingly considering his woeful start at the beginning). extremely impressed with Yoshida. hes getting to grips with the English game. feel bad for forren. so highly rated back in noway i want to see him in action. fox played well against citeh but rather have shaw in his place any day.[/p][/quote]Lets get to safety first fast then try out new positions. (the chap said to his girlfriend!) I really want to see Forren play as he is a class player but it's hard to break up Hoover and the fantastic Maya. Yes I am not a great fan of J-Rod... lets face it he missed the goal that Punchy scored and fluffed another chance when through, so I would take him off for Gaston and put Shaw instead of Fox (feel sorry for Fox, been playing great but Shaw is still better) Guly... well for a brazillian he is not great, can you see him getting in the Brazil team for next year? No, and unfortunately we are getting out of his league. I met the guy, real nice bloke, but just not quite up to our increasing standards. Saints forever! Norwegian Saint
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12:35pm Tue 12 Feb 13

st1halo says...

Gazzman wrote:
I don't know why I keep torturing myself by looking at some of the rubbish on here, it would be interesting to know how many actually go to all the games or are either plastic fans or die hard radio Solent listeners, firstly those who keep saying keep to the present team that's winning and how formidable JWP is good one, he is not 1st choice he's been on the bench since the new manager came in, and for all the Guly haters look at the stats and see his goal ratio to the amount of games he has played and compare it to others with the same amount of games. Just to help some of you St Mary's is off Northam Rd and Saints play in the red shirts, so see you next time Saints play one of the top teams
We are humbled by your wroth oh wise one!

Please enlighten us so that we are worthy of your approval!

CHAPS! THE ORACLE IS HERE!

Our ignorance will be torn from us by this great and powerful sage!

Over to you Bamber!


STID
[quote][p][bold]Gazzman[/bold] wrote: I don't know why I keep torturing myself by looking at some of the rubbish on here, it would be interesting to know how many actually go to all the games or are either plastic fans or die hard radio Solent listeners, firstly those who keep saying keep to the present team that's winning and how formidable JWP is good one, he is not 1st choice he's been on the bench since the new manager came in, and for all the Guly haters look at the stats and see his goal ratio to the amount of games he has played and compare it to others with the same amount of games. Just to help some of you St Mary's is off Northam Rd and Saints play in the red shirts, so see you next time Saints play one of the top teams[/p][/quote]We are humbled by your wroth oh wise one! Please enlighten us so that we are worthy of your approval! CHAPS! THE ORACLE IS HERE! Our ignorance will be torn from us by this great and powerful sage! Over to you Bamber! STID st1halo
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12:39pm Tue 12 Feb 13

franiow says...

Fox has performed when we have needed him, but is clearly not our first choice. Don't blame him for the City goal because the ref ran across him for the corner (must have been a distraction). Every player makes mistakes sometime. Guly is a good player and too many ignore that and remember his misses. Lambert, JRod and Puncheon all missed on Saturday. Suspect Fonte will be back when fit. Not sure about Forren...does Poch rate him?
Fox has performed when we have needed him, but is clearly not our first choice. Don't blame him for the City goal because the ref ran across him for the corner (must have been a distraction). Every player makes mistakes sometime. Guly is a good player and too many ignore that and remember his misses. Lambert, JRod and Puncheon all missed on Saturday. Suspect Fonte will be back when fit. Not sure about Forren...does Poch rate him? franiow
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12:41pm Tue 12 Feb 13

SO50 Saint says...

st1 i've read that a few times and I still don't get what he's getting at at all. In one breath he's saying a team that's beaten the current champs aren't good enough. Then having a go at a young CM who can't get in the first team but does well off the bench and thirdly he has a go at Guly haters and quotes his goals per game when he hasn't scored for over a year (not having a go at Guly) Also the fact that he says the ground is off Northam Road thought it was Britannia Road
st1 i've read that a few times and I still don't get what he's getting at at all. In one breath he's saying a team that's beaten the current champs aren't good enough. Then having a go at a young CM who can't get in the first team but does well off the bench and thirdly he has a go at Guly haters and quotes his goals per game when he hasn't scored for over a year (not having a go at Guly) Also the fact that he says the ground is off Northam Road thought it was Britannia Road SO50 Saint
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12:44pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

franiow wrote:
Fox has performed when we have needed him, but is clearly not our first choice. Don't blame him for the City goal because the ref ran across him for the corner (must have been a distraction). Every player makes mistakes sometime. Guly is a good player and too many ignore that and remember his misses. Lambert, JRod and Puncheon all missed on Saturday. Suspect Fonte will be back when fit. Not sure about Forren...does Poch rate him?
Forren was MP's. Nigel wasn't involved at all.
[quote][p][bold]franiow[/bold] wrote: Fox has performed when we have needed him, but is clearly not our first choice. Don't blame him for the City goal because the ref ran across him for the corner (must have been a distraction). Every player makes mistakes sometime. Guly is a good player and too many ignore that and remember his misses. Lambert, JRod and Puncheon all missed on Saturday. Suspect Fonte will be back when fit. Not sure about Forren...does Poch rate him?[/p][/quote]Forren was MP's. Nigel wasn't involved at all. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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12:45pm Tue 12 Feb 13

billythesaint says...

milton road wrote:
Lol Billythe saint, now work it out with Hoov at the back.
Good job we bought Forren then, no? The article was about Fonte so I supplied some Fonte stats.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Lol Billythe saint, now work it out with Hoov at the back.[/p][/quote]Good job we bought Forren then, no? The article was about Fonte so I supplied some Fonte stats. billythesaint
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12:45pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Folkestone Saint says...

Gazzman wrote:
I don't know why I keep torturing myself by looking at some of the rubbish on here, it would be interesting to know how many actually go to all the games or are either plastic fans or die hard radio Solent listeners, firstly those who keep saying keep to the present team that's winning and how formidable JWP is good one, he is not 1st choice he's been on the bench since the new manager came in, and for all the Guly haters look at the stats and see his goal ratio to the amount of games he has played and compare it to others with the same amount of games. Just to help some of you St Mary's is off Northam Rd and Saints play in the red shirts, so see you next time Saints play one of the top teams
As you ask, I got to about 4 games per season, now feel I must explain why.
1. Most Saturdays between 1 and 2pm my son has a golf lesson, he has been going to these for about 6 years.
2. It cost's about £200 per trip with tickets, diesel and food.
3. I am self-employed so before I buy tickets I have to make sure I have funds to cover a minimum of 3 months worth of bill's.
4. If a game is live on sky I don't go as I already pay about £115 a month for my subscription.
However I have been a supporter of the Saints since 1974 and don't feel the need to ask you for permission to have an opinion
[quote][p][bold]Gazzman[/bold] wrote: I don't know why I keep torturing myself by looking at some of the rubbish on here, it would be interesting to know how many actually go to all the games or are either plastic fans or die hard radio Solent listeners, firstly those who keep saying keep to the present team that's winning and how formidable JWP is good one, he is not 1st choice he's been on the bench since the new manager came in, and for all the Guly haters look at the stats and see his goal ratio to the amount of games he has played and compare it to others with the same amount of games. Just to help some of you St Mary's is off Northam Rd and Saints play in the red shirts, so see you next time Saints play one of the top teams[/p][/quote]As you ask, I got to about 4 games per season, now feel I must explain why. 1. Most Saturdays between 1 and 2pm my son has a golf lesson, he has been going to these for about 6 years. 2. It cost's about £200 per trip with tickets, diesel and food. 3. I am self-employed so before I buy tickets I have to make sure I have funds to cover a minimum of 3 months worth of bill's. 4. If a game is live on sky I don't go as I already pay about £115 a month for my subscription. However I have been a supporter of the Saints since 1974 and don't feel the need to ask you for permission to have an opinion Folkestone Saint
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12:46pm Tue 12 Feb 13

st1halo says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Grief! Anyone would think we had just been stuffed by QPR.

Together as one, no?

I just tried listing the current 25-man squad. I think I got it right (Ben Reeves slipped in at 25).

I don't think any of the 25 has let us down this season. All of them have done something good and something bad. Criticise Fox and you have to mention Shaw's lapse at Wigan; mention Guly and you have to question JayRod's chance/conversion rate. All 3 goalies have played their part (Davis made 2 penalty saves early on), all have blundered.

Let's support all of them in this sometimes frustrating but ultimately pivotal season. We can wait until May before looking at where the strengthening needs to happen for that next step - European domination.
Well said Stras, I'm not a Guly fanbut concede he's been improving,if he bangs a couple in, i'll be convinced but as the holy one Nicola said, you have to look past the individual and concentrate on the team. Advice I will be taking.


STID
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Grief! Anyone would think we had just been stuffed by QPR. Together as one, no? I just tried listing the current 25-man squad. I think I got it right (Ben Reeves slipped in at 25). I don't think any of the 25 has let us down this season. All of them have done something good and something bad. Criticise Fox and you have to mention Shaw's lapse at Wigan; mention Guly and you have to question JayRod's chance/conversion rate. All 3 goalies have played their part (Davis made 2 penalty saves early on), all have blundered. Let's support all of them in this sometimes frustrating but ultimately pivotal season. We can wait until May before looking at where the strengthening needs to happen for that next step - European domination.[/p][/quote]Well said Stras, I'm not a Guly fanbut concede he's been improving,if he bangs a couple in, i'll be convinced but as the holy one Nicola said, you have to look past the individual and concentrate on the team. Advice I will be taking. STID st1halo
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12:47pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Ontario Saint says...

Great to have the players we have, It is no wonder MP recognized the talent he had at his disposal and did not need to rock the boat by bringing in 3-4 new players in January.
MP has already shown us that he has the ability to get 100 percent from the TEAM he picks and he has the ability to bring out the best in each player,
With this in mind we don\t need to slag off ALL of the players who have been so much a part of the Clubs success over the past 3 years.
We are so lucky to have the Fonte, Guly Fox Hooveild all who have contributed so much to the success we had under Nigel.
All of them deserve the opportunity to prove themselves under MP and I am sure MP will make the right decisions where the selection of the team is concerned.
I have little doubt that next season we will be a top 6 club and MP will be one of the top Managers in Europe with a very unified Saints Club .
Give the players and the squad the support they have earned and deserve....all of them have ability and without doubt the Club has the potential to become one of the elite teams in Europe! People that slag off the players who have been part of our success make me want to puke!
Great to have the players we have, It is no wonder MP recognized the talent he had at his disposal and did not need to rock the boat by bringing in 3-4 new players in January. MP has already shown us that he has the ability to get 100 percent from the TEAM he picks and he has the ability to bring out the best in each player, With this in mind we don\t need to slag off ALL of the players who have been so much a part of the Clubs success over the past 3 years. We are so lucky to have the Fonte, Guly Fox Hooveild all who have contributed so much to the success we had under Nigel. All of them deserve the opportunity to prove themselves under MP and I am sure MP will make the right decisions where the selection of the team is concerned. I have little doubt that next season we will be a top 6 club and MP will be one of the top Managers in Europe with a very unified Saints Club . Give the players and the squad the support they have earned and deserve....all of them have ability and without doubt the Club has the potential to become one of the elite teams in Europe! People that slag off the players who have been part of our success make me want to puke! Ontario Saint
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12:50pm Tue 12 Feb 13

InCortesewetrust says...

st1halo wrote:
Gazzman wrote:
I don't know why I keep torturing myself by looking at some of the rubbish on here, it would be interesting to know how many actually go to all the games or are either plastic fans or die hard radio Solent listeners, firstly those who keep saying keep to the present team that's winning and how formidable JWP is good one, he is not 1st choice he's been on the bench since the new manager came in, and for all the Guly haters look at the stats and see his goal ratio to the amount of games he has played and compare it to others with the same amount of games. Just to help some of you St Mary's is off Northam Rd and Saints play in the red shirts, so see you next time Saints play one of the top teams
We are humbled by your wroth oh wise one!

Please enlighten us so that we are worthy of your approval!

CHAPS! THE ORACLE IS HERE!

Our ignorance will be torn from us by this great and powerful sage!

Over to you Bamber!


STID
I don't feel worthy of being in the same chat room as this enlightened football guru, he truly is a prophet.
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gazzman[/bold] wrote: I don't know why I keep torturing myself by looking at some of the rubbish on here, it would be interesting to know how many actually go to all the games or are either plastic fans or die hard radio Solent listeners, firstly those who keep saying keep to the present team that's winning and how formidable JWP is good one, he is not 1st choice he's been on the bench since the new manager came in, and for all the Guly haters look at the stats and see his goal ratio to the amount of games he has played and compare it to others with the same amount of games. Just to help some of you St Mary's is off Northam Rd and Saints play in the red shirts, so see you next time Saints play one of the top teams[/p][/quote]We are humbled by your wroth oh wise one! Please enlighten us so that we are worthy of your approval! CHAPS! THE ORACLE IS HERE! Our ignorance will be torn from us by this great and powerful sage! Over to you Bamber! STID[/p][/quote]I don't feel worthy of being in the same chat room as this enlightened football guru, he truly is a prophet. InCortesewetrust
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12:51pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Ontario Saint wrote:
Great to have the players we have, It is no wonder MP recognized the talent he had at his disposal and did not need to rock the boat by bringing in 3-4 new players in January.
MP has already shown us that he has the ability to get 100 percent from the TEAM he picks and he has the ability to bring out the best in each player,
With this in mind we don\t need to slag off ALL of the players who have been so much a part of the Clubs success over the past 3 years.
We are so lucky to have the Fonte, Guly Fox Hooveild all who have contributed so much to the success we had under Nigel.
All of them deserve the opportunity to prove themselves under MP and I am sure MP will make the right decisions where the selection of the team is concerned.
I have little doubt that next season we will be a top 6 club and MP will be one of the top Managers in Europe with a very unified Saints Club .
Give the players and the squad the support they have earned and deserve....all of them have ability and without doubt the Club has the potential to become one of the elite teams in Europe! People that slag off the players who have been part of our success make me want to puke!
That.

When a player becomes out of his depth, say Hammond and Harding, what is wrong with thanking them and wishing them all the very best for their future? Some seem to have to hate them for some reason. Do you know there is a facebook page dedicated to hating Guly, I just can't understand that.
[quote][p][bold]Ontario Saint[/bold] wrote: Great to have the players we have, It is no wonder MP recognized the talent he had at his disposal and did not need to rock the boat by bringing in 3-4 new players in January. MP has already shown us that he has the ability to get 100 percent from the TEAM he picks and he has the ability to bring out the best in each player, With this in mind we don\t need to slag off ALL of the players who have been so much a part of the Clubs success over the past 3 years. We are so lucky to have the Fonte, Guly Fox Hooveild all who have contributed so much to the success we had under Nigel. All of them deserve the opportunity to prove themselves under MP and I am sure MP will make the right decisions where the selection of the team is concerned. I have little doubt that next season we will be a top 6 club and MP will be one of the top Managers in Europe with a very unified Saints Club . Give the players and the squad the support they have earned and deserve....all of them have ability and without doubt the Club has the potential to become one of the elite teams in Europe! People that slag off the players who have been part of our success make me want to puke![/p][/quote]That. When a player becomes out of his depth, say Hammond and Harding, what is wrong with thanking them and wishing them all the very best for their future? Some seem to have to hate them for some reason. Do you know there is a facebook page dedicated to hating Guly, I just can't understand that. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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12:55pm Tue 12 Feb 13

saintmac says...

Apologies.Should have said GASTON
in earlier post.Still hungover after saturday!
Apologies.Should have said GASTON in earlier post.Still hungover after saturday! saintmac
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12:59pm Tue 12 Feb 13

forever a saint says...

Apparently NC/MP failed in a bid for Abdelaziz Barrada from Getafe they offered £15.25m.Great to see that the owners have belief in our club & NC.

COYS
Apparently NC/MP failed in a bid for Abdelaziz Barrada from Getafe they offered £15.25m.Great to see that the owners have belief in our club & NC. COYS forever a saint
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1:01pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Saint 2701 says...

Puddletown Saint wrote:
Good article Echo. Lets have a debate about the Saints starting XI if all fit. Mine would be; Boruc Clyne Shaw Fonte Forren Cork Spider Punch Adam Jay Rickie Gazza Fox Yos JWP Gaston Maka and S Davis Gaston just seems a bit of luxury at the moment. Your thoughts.
Boruc, Shaw, Yoshida, Forren, Clyne, Sneiderlin, Cork, Puncheon, Davis, Rodriguez, Lambert.

Yoshida is our best defender.
[quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: Good article Echo. Lets have a debate about the Saints starting XI if all fit. Mine would be; Boruc Clyne Shaw Fonte Forren Cork Spider Punch Adam Jay Rickie Gazza Fox Yos JWP Gaston Maka and S Davis Gaston just seems a bit of luxury at the moment. Your thoughts.[/p][/quote]Boruc, Shaw, Yoshida, Forren, Clyne, Sneiderlin, Cork, Puncheon, Davis, Rodriguez, Lambert. Yoshida is our best defender. Saint 2701
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1:09pm Tue 12 Feb 13

st1halo says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
st1 i've read that a few times and I still don't get what he's getting at at all. In one breath he's saying a team that's beaten the current champs aren't good enough. Then having a go at a young CM who can't get in the first team but does well off the bench and thirdly he has a go at Guly haters and quotes his goals per game when he hasn't scored for over a year (not having a go at Guly) Also the fact that he says the ground is off Northam Road thought it was Britannia Road
Guess he just likes to feel superior for some strange reason.
To me it doesn't matter whether someone has supported the club for 5 mins, 5 yrs or 50 years, whether they go to games, listen to games or watch on the tv, whether they are a box ticket holder, season ticket holder or just occasional visitor. All Saints fans are just that and entitled to their opinion. I've been going since the late 60's as a boy, and even though I go to the games I still record them, come home and watch again as I can see more. My opinion isn't any more valid than someone who started going last week!
People like Strassie, Mush and warrens live abroad, how can they get to every game? Are they any less of a fan? They have as much passion as anyone else. I'm not usually rude about people unless they are skates but Gazzman is talking from his @rse!

STID
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: st1 i've read that a few times and I still don't get what he's getting at at all. In one breath he's saying a team that's beaten the current champs aren't good enough. Then having a go at a young CM who can't get in the first team but does well off the bench and thirdly he has a go at Guly haters and quotes his goals per game when he hasn't scored for over a year (not having a go at Guly) Also the fact that he says the ground is off Northam Road thought it was Britannia Road[/p][/quote]Guess he just likes to feel superior for some strange reason. To me it doesn't matter whether someone has supported the club for 5 mins, 5 yrs or 50 years, whether they go to games, listen to games or watch on the tv, whether they are a box ticket holder, season ticket holder or just occasional visitor. All Saints fans are just that and entitled to their opinion. I've been going since the late 60's as a boy, and even though I go to the games I still record them, come home and watch again as I can see more. My opinion isn't any more valid than someone who started going last week! People like Strassie, Mush and warrens live abroad, how can they get to every game? Are they any less of a fan? They have as much passion as anyone else. I'm not usually rude about people unless they are skates but Gazzman is talking from his @rse! STID st1halo
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1:18pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Stnana says...

Clever Dick wrote:
saint_rednwhite wrote: Disagree with views on fox - he's done really well against both manchester clubs defensively. Amazing really... once a left back actually plays left back he performs, wherea's under Nigel seem to have to play left wing and we were all wondering... where's our left back gone!!! Superbe stuff saints!! 4 pts from next 2 will be excellent...
Fox gives his all every game. He may only be fringe Premiership but he puts his body on the line. He has a sweet left foot and is a good squad player. We get an endless stream of supposed supporters knocking the players on here. Those same Fox knockers seem to turn a blind eye when Shaw costs us two points against Stoke. Nothing against Shaw 'cos he looks a fantastic player. Just saying that all players make mistakes at times.
Yesterday there were posts on here about Saints making more effort to engage with youngsters, has no one noticed how Fox gets the fans in the family stand going when he takes a corner. I haven't noticed any other player making any effort to engage with the kids here.On another subject have any of you noticed any bias by South Today towards Reading?
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint_rednwhite[/bold] wrote: Disagree with views on fox - he's done really well against both manchester clubs defensively. Amazing really... once a left back actually plays left back he performs, wherea's under Nigel seem to have to play left wing and we were all wondering... where's our left back gone!!! Superbe stuff saints!! 4 pts from next 2 will be excellent...[/p][/quote]Fox gives his all every game. He may only be fringe Premiership but he puts his body on the line. He has a sweet left foot and is a good squad player. We get an endless stream of supposed supporters knocking the players on here. Those same Fox knockers seem to turn a blind eye when Shaw costs us two points against Stoke. Nothing against Shaw 'cos he looks a fantastic player. Just saying that all players make mistakes at times.[/p][/quote]Yesterday there were posts on here about Saints making more effort to engage with youngsters, has no one noticed how Fox gets the fans in the family stand going when he takes a corner. I haven't noticed any other player making any effort to engage with the kids here.On another subject have any of you noticed any bias by South Today towards Reading? Stnana
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1:19pm Tue 12 Feb 13

st1halo says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Ontario Saint wrote:
Great to have the players we have, It is no wonder MP recognized the talent he had at his disposal and did not need to rock the boat by bringing in 3-4 new players in January.
MP has already shown us that he has the ability to get 100 percent from the TEAM he picks and he has the ability to bring out the best in each player,
With this in mind we don\t need to slag off ALL of the players who have been so much a part of the Clubs success over the past 3 years.
We are so lucky to have the Fonte, Guly Fox Hooveild all who have contributed so much to the success we had under Nigel.
All of them deserve the opportunity to prove themselves under MP and I am sure MP will make the right decisions where the selection of the team is concerned.
I have little doubt that next season we will be a top 6 club and MP will be one of the top Managers in Europe with a very unified Saints Club .
Give the players and the squad the support they have earned and deserve....all of them have ability and without doubt the Club has the potential to become one of the elite teams in Europe! People that slag off the players who have been part of our success make me want to puke!
That.

When a player becomes out of his depth, say Hammond and Harding, what is wrong with thanking them and wishing them all the very best for their future? Some seem to have to hate them for some reason. Do you know there is a facebook page dedicated to hating Guly, I just can't understand that.
You're kidding? That's just disrespectful. No need for that!
Guly has still made a contribution to this club's success and should be recognised for that.
I hope he can up his game and prove the doubters (including me) wrong, at least then the disrespectful tw'ts would have to eat humble pie!

STID
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ontario Saint[/bold] wrote: Great to have the players we have, It is no wonder MP recognized the talent he had at his disposal and did not need to rock the boat by bringing in 3-4 new players in January. MP has already shown us that he has the ability to get 100 percent from the TEAM he picks and he has the ability to bring out the best in each player, With this in mind we don\t need to slag off ALL of the players who have been so much a part of the Clubs success over the past 3 years. We are so lucky to have the Fonte, Guly Fox Hooveild all who have contributed so much to the success we had under Nigel. All of them deserve the opportunity to prove themselves under MP and I am sure MP will make the right decisions where the selection of the team is concerned. I have little doubt that next season we will be a top 6 club and MP will be one of the top Managers in Europe with a very unified Saints Club . Give the players and the squad the support they have earned and deserve....all of them have ability and without doubt the Club has the potential to become one of the elite teams in Europe! People that slag off the players who have been part of our success make me want to puke![/p][/quote]That. When a player becomes out of his depth, say Hammond and Harding, what is wrong with thanking them and wishing them all the very best for their future? Some seem to have to hate them for some reason. Do you know there is a facebook page dedicated to hating Guly, I just can't understand that.[/p][/quote]You're kidding? That's just disrespectful. No need for that! Guly has still made a contribution to this club's success and should be recognised for that. I hope he can up his game and prove the doubters (including me) wrong, at least then the disrespectful tw'ts would have to eat humble pie! STID st1halo
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1:23pm Tue 12 Feb 13

2getheras1 says...

lemon cake wrote:
mbetts wrote:
Good time to have a break this weekend, hopefully we can buck our recent trend after having a week off and come out the traps firing with a few of the players that are injured with niggling injuries back in the team, I know you shouldn't change a winning team but adding Shaw and Ramirez to the team that played city and we're good to go for the final push towards safety
Tonight i shall be supporting Hartlepool....come on you 'Monkey hangers' stick another nail in the pompey coffin.
According to the BBC today Guy Whittingham is said to be desperate to avoid being in charge of a Pompey side who have never lost 10 successive games. We can only guess from that he must be considering resigning before kick-off?

He also says... What you have to remember is what we are working against. Nobody here is responsible for this situation we are in. I for one totally agree; everybody else plays better football, it is not Pompey's fault they are ****.

Come on Jeff Stelling's Hartlepool!!!
[quote][p][bold]lemon cake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mbetts[/bold] wrote: Good time to have a break this weekend, hopefully we can buck our recent trend after having a week off and come out the traps firing with a few of the players that are injured with niggling injuries back in the team, I know you shouldn't change a winning team but adding Shaw and Ramirez to the team that played city and we're good to go for the final push towards safety[/p][/quote]Tonight i shall be supporting Hartlepool....come on you 'Monkey hangers' stick another nail in the pompey coffin.[/p][/quote]According to the BBC today Guy Whittingham is said to be desperate to avoid being in charge of a Pompey side who have never lost 10 successive games. We can only guess from that he must be considering resigning before kick-off? He also says... What you have to remember is what we are working against. Nobody here is responsible for this situation we are in. I for one totally agree; everybody else plays better football, it is not Pompey's fault they are ****. Come on Jeff Stelling's Hartlepool!!! 2getheras1
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1:25pm Tue 12 Feb 13

up saints says...

looking back at some posts you would think we losted to man city you can;t please everyone.mp will pick the team and as long as players give 100% thats good enough for me.
looking back at some posts you would think we losted to man city you can;t please everyone.mp will pick the team and as long as players give 100% thats good enough for me. up saints
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1:31pm Tue 12 Feb 13

milton road says...

Seed agree 100%
All these players helped us get promoted and all scored vital goals or gave assists.
I want to see how players perform under MP. because J Rod and Davies for example are playing far better now. It was only a few weeks ago everyone was groaning about Davies but i think he has been very important in the last three games for example. J Rod is becoming a better player with each game and at last is beginning to show potential.
We are at a stage when if Adam and Fonte etc are out we are not struggling.
The first 10 games this season were a real struggle, you cannot compare statistics of one CB without the other its not a fair reflection.
Fonte really came to terms with the game after that period. I think what the first 10 games proved is that Fonte and Hoov struggle as a partnership, they get turned too easily at this level but either can play with Yos who is more fluid.
Jack and Morgan give that steel and creativity in midfield. In my opinion and all this is only that, we played better at OT and Wigan when Davies came on at halftime, coincidence or not. he also was a very important factor on saturday.
The way we play now is refreshing and exciting.
Seed agree 100% All these players helped us get promoted and all scored vital goals or gave assists. I want to see how players perform under MP. because J Rod and Davies for example are playing far better now. It was only a few weeks ago everyone was groaning about Davies but i think he has been very important in the last three games for example. J Rod is becoming a better player with each game and at last is beginning to show potential. We are at a stage when if Adam and Fonte etc are out we are not struggling. The first 10 games this season were a real struggle, you cannot compare statistics of one CB without the other its not a fair reflection. Fonte really came to terms with the game after that period. I think what the first 10 games proved is that Fonte and Hoov struggle as a partnership, they get turned too easily at this level but either can play with Yos who is more fluid. Jack and Morgan give that steel and creativity in midfield. In my opinion and all this is only that, we played better at OT and Wigan when Davies came on at halftime, coincidence or not. he also was a very important factor on saturday. The way we play now is refreshing and exciting. milton road
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1:38pm Tue 12 Feb 13

J7junctionseven says...

Does anyone know how many tickets we are likely to get allocated for Norwich away. I've been told about 1500 which is sh1te.
Does anyone know how many tickets we are likely to get allocated for Norwich away. I've been told about 1500 which is sh1te. J7junctionseven
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1:44pm Tue 12 Feb 13

CB FRY LIVES says...

a nice problem for MP to have.a strong squad is a must in the premiership and our squad is looking pretty good at the moment.
COYR
a nice problem for MP to have.a strong squad is a must in the premiership and our squad is looking pretty good at the moment. COYR CB FRY LIVES
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1:52pm Tue 12 Feb 13

miltonarcher says...

Puddletown Saint wrote:
Good article Echo. Lets have a debate about the Saints starting XI if all fit. Mine would be;

Boruc Clyne Shaw Fonte Forren Cork Spider Punch Adam Jay Rickie

Gazza Fox Yos JWP Gaston Maka and S Davis

Gaston just seems a bit of luxury at the moment. Your thoughts.
Have you seen Forren play????
[quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: Good article Echo. Lets have a debate about the Saints starting XI if all fit. Mine would be; Boruc Clyne Shaw Fonte Forren Cork Spider Punch Adam Jay Rickie Gazza Fox Yos JWP Gaston Maka and S Davis Gaston just seems a bit of luxury at the moment. Your thoughts.[/p][/quote]Have you seen Forren play???? miltonarcher
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2:00pm Tue 12 Feb 13

The future's bright says...

Back to the story above...

Do you really think Fonte is fussed about playing Pardew's team? If I was in his position, I think I would just never want to see the man again.

(If you believe the rumours).
Back to the story above... Do you really think Fonte is fussed about playing Pardew's team? If I was in his position, I think I would just never want to see the man again. (If you believe the rumours). The future's bright
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2:02pm Tue 12 Feb 13

SO50 Saint says...

Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.
Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same. SO50 Saint
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2:04pm Tue 12 Feb 13

st1halo says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.
They'll have trouble filling the toilets! haha


STID
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.[/p][/quote]They'll have trouble filling the toilets! haha STID st1halo
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2:10pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Alicesdad says...

What the hell is going on here? I leave the site alone for a morning and come back to find a thread almost entirely talking about foootball. Apart from someone trying to plug a web site everyone has been exchanging views on players, tactics and results .. its quite unnerving.

Anyway - just to join in a bit ...

Best of luck to Jose, I have backed him all season and he has raised his game so I hope tpo see him back. Im very curious about Forren, he's getting his fitness together and all that but his chances of an appearance will probably improve once we have secured our place in thsi league for next season. Along with Tadanari Lee, and Mayuka I can see him being bench fodder for quite a while. Shame but its the harsh reality at this level.
What the hell is going on here? I leave the site alone for a morning and come back to find a thread almost entirely talking about foootball. Apart from someone trying to plug a web site everyone has been exchanging views on players, tactics and results .. its quite unnerving. Anyway - just to join in a bit ... Best of luck to Jose, I have backed him all season and he has raised his game so I hope tpo see him back. Im very curious about Forren, he's getting his fitness together and all that but his chances of an appearance will probably improve once we have secured our place in thsi league for next season. Along with Tadanari Lee, and Mayuka I can see him being bench fodder for quite a while. Shame but its the harsh reality at this level. Alicesdad
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2:11pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Norwegian Saint says...

miltonarcher wrote:
Puddletown Saint wrote: Good article Echo. Lets have a debate about the Saints starting XI if all fit. Mine would be; Boruc Clyne Shaw Fonte Forren Cork Spider Punch Adam Jay Rickie Gazza Fox Yos JWP Gaston Maka and S Davis Gaston just seems a bit of luxury at the moment. Your thoughts.
Have you seen Forren play????
Yes I have, he will be a class act for Saints... but I wouldn't change the defence at the moment apart from Fox for Shaw.

I would like to see Lee start next to Rickie and give J-Rod a break, but I don't think it will happen. J-R is getting better, but if he is in for his pace, as quite a few say, then put Lee in, he knows where the net is and would walk past JR.

Lallana to start? I cant see who to take out, Cork has been fantastic along with Puncheon and my man of the season so far, Spider... so that leaves Davis to make way?

The only thing I am missing out here is no Poopey fans to take the "Piste" out of!

Saints forever!!!
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: Good article Echo. Lets have a debate about the Saints starting XI if all fit. Mine would be; Boruc Clyne Shaw Fonte Forren Cork Spider Punch Adam Jay Rickie Gazza Fox Yos JWP Gaston Maka and S Davis Gaston just seems a bit of luxury at the moment. Your thoughts.[/p][/quote]Have you seen Forren play????[/p][/quote]Yes I have, he will be a class act for Saints... but I wouldn't change the defence at the moment apart from Fox for Shaw. I would like to see Lee start next to Rickie and give J-Rod a break, but I don't think it will happen. J-R is getting better, but if he is in for his pace, as quite a few say, then put Lee in, he knows where the net is and would walk past JR. Lallana to start? I cant see who to take out, Cork has been fantastic along with Puncheon and my man of the season so far, Spider... so that leaves Davis to make way? The only thing I am missing out here is no Poopey fans to take the "Piste" out of! Saints forever!!! Norwegian Saint
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2:13pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

milton road wrote:
Seed agree 100%
All these players helped us get promoted and all scored vital goals or gave assists.
I want to see how players perform under MP. because J Rod and Davies for example are playing far better now. It was only a few weeks ago everyone was groaning about Davies but i think he has been very important in the last three games for example. J Rod is becoming a better player with each game and at last is beginning to show potential.
We are at a stage when if Adam and Fonte etc are out we are not struggling.
The first 10 games this season were a real struggle, you cannot compare statistics of one CB without the other its not a fair reflection.
Fonte really came to terms with the game after that period. I think what the first 10 games proved is that Fonte and Hoov struggle as a partnership, they get turned too easily at this level but either can play with Yos who is more fluid.
Jack and Morgan give that steel and creativity in midfield. In my opinion and all this is only that, we played better at OT and Wigan when Davies came on at halftime, coincidence or not. he also was a very important factor on saturday.
The way we play now is refreshing and exciting.
I always saw Davies coming on as an attempt to shut up shop and try and see a game out. But you are dead right when he came on at OT with Adam that was the beginning of our period of dominance. I was wondering why we'd bought him but he is turning into a very good player for us.

Are there others that given the chance to step up might prove their worth? Why can't Chappers be a replacement for Cork when he gets injured or suspended, people say he isn't good enough but how do they know he wont lift his game as so many others have done?
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Seed agree 100% All these players helped us get promoted and all scored vital goals or gave assists. I want to see how players perform under MP. because J Rod and Davies for example are playing far better now. It was only a few weeks ago everyone was groaning about Davies but i think he has been very important in the last three games for example. J Rod is becoming a better player with each game and at last is beginning to show potential. We are at a stage when if Adam and Fonte etc are out we are not struggling. The first 10 games this season were a real struggle, you cannot compare statistics of one CB without the other its not a fair reflection. Fonte really came to terms with the game after that period. I think what the first 10 games proved is that Fonte and Hoov struggle as a partnership, they get turned too easily at this level but either can play with Yos who is more fluid. Jack and Morgan give that steel and creativity in midfield. In my opinion and all this is only that, we played better at OT and Wigan when Davies came on at halftime, coincidence or not. he also was a very important factor on saturday. The way we play now is refreshing and exciting.[/p][/quote]I always saw Davies coming on as an attempt to shut up shop and try and see a game out. But you are dead right when he came on at OT with Adam that was the beginning of our period of dominance. I was wondering why we'd bought him but he is turning into a very good player for us. Are there others that given the chance to step up might prove their worth? Why can't Chappers be a replacement for Cork when he gets injured or suspended, people say he isn't good enough but how do they know he wont lift his game as so many others have done? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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2:18pm Tue 12 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

st1halo wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
st1 i've read that a few times and I still don't get what he's getting at at all. In one breath he's saying a team that's beaten the current champs aren't good enough. Then having a go at a young CM who can't get in the first team but does well off the bench and thirdly he has a go at Guly haters and quotes his goals per game when he hasn't scored for over a year (not having a go at Guly) Also the fact that he says the ground is off Northam Road thought it was Britannia Road
Guess he just likes to feel superior for some strange reason.
To me it doesn't matter whether someone has supported the club for 5 mins, 5 yrs or 50 years, whether they go to games, listen to games or watch on the tv, whether they are a box ticket holder, season ticket holder or just occasional visitor. All Saints fans are just that and entitled to their opinion. I've been going since the late 60's as a boy, and even though I go to the games I still record them, come home and watch again as I can see more. My opinion isn't any more valid than someone who started going last week!
People like Strassie, Mush and warrens live abroad, how can they get to every game? Are they any less of a fan? They have as much passion as anyone else. I'm not usually rude about people unless they are skates but Gazzman is talking from his @rse!

STID
Thanks Seed..going to N'castle though flying from geneva or Genf as they call it..
Hoping to see faces at Seaton bourn travel lodge..although we will stay in the toon!
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: st1 i've read that a few times and I still don't get what he's getting at at all. In one breath he's saying a team that's beaten the current champs aren't good enough. Then having a go at a young CM who can't get in the first team but does well off the bench and thirdly he has a go at Guly haters and quotes his goals per game when he hasn't scored for over a year (not having a go at Guly) Also the fact that he says the ground is off Northam Road thought it was Britannia Road[/p][/quote]Guess he just likes to feel superior for some strange reason. To me it doesn't matter whether someone has supported the club for 5 mins, 5 yrs or 50 years, whether they go to games, listen to games or watch on the tv, whether they are a box ticket holder, season ticket holder or just occasional visitor. All Saints fans are just that and entitled to their opinion. I've been going since the late 60's as a boy, and even though I go to the games I still record them, come home and watch again as I can see more. My opinion isn't any more valid than someone who started going last week! People like Strassie, Mush and warrens live abroad, how can they get to every game? Are they any less of a fan? They have as much passion as anyone else. I'm not usually rude about people unless they are skates but Gazzman is talking from his @rse! STID[/p][/quote]Thanks Seed..going to N'castle though flying from geneva or Genf as they call it.. Hoping to see faces at Seaton bourn travel lodge..although we will stay in the toon! warrens 76
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2:22pm Tue 12 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Stnana wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
saint_rednwhite wrote: Disagree with views on fox - he's done really well against both manchester clubs defensively. Amazing really... once a left back actually plays left back he performs, wherea's under Nigel seem to have to play left wing and we were all wondering... where's our left back gone!!! Superbe stuff saints!! 4 pts from next 2 will be excellent...
Fox gives his all every game. He may only be fringe Premiership but he puts his body on the line. He has a sweet left foot and is a good squad player. We get an endless stream of supposed supporters knocking the players on here. Those same Fox knockers seem to turn a blind eye when Shaw costs us two points against Stoke. Nothing against Shaw 'cos he looks a fantastic player. Just saying that all players make mistakes at times.
Yesterday there were posts on here about Saints making more effort to engage with youngsters, has no one noticed how Fox gets the fans in the family stand going when he takes a corner. I haven't noticed any other player making any effort to engage with the kids here.On another subject have any of you noticed any bias by South Today towards Reading?
Since Fred Dineage's Pmuff imploded yes, quite a bit!
[quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint_rednwhite[/bold] wrote: Disagree with views on fox - he's done really well against both manchester clubs defensively. Amazing really... once a left back actually plays left back he performs, wherea's under Nigel seem to have to play left wing and we were all wondering... where's our left back gone!!! Superbe stuff saints!! 4 pts from next 2 will be excellent...[/p][/quote]Fox gives his all every game. He may only be fringe Premiership but he puts his body on the line. He has a sweet left foot and is a good squad player. We get an endless stream of supposed supporters knocking the players on here. Those same Fox knockers seem to turn a blind eye when Shaw costs us two points against Stoke. Nothing against Shaw 'cos he looks a fantastic player. Just saying that all players make mistakes at times.[/p][/quote]Yesterday there were posts on here about Saints making more effort to engage with youngsters, has no one noticed how Fox gets the fans in the family stand going when he takes a corner. I haven't noticed any other player making any effort to engage with the kids here.On another subject have any of you noticed any bias by South Today towards Reading?[/p][/quote]Since Fred Dineage's Pmuff imploded yes, quite a bit! warrens 76
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2:24pm Tue 12 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Stnana wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
saint_rednwhite wrote: Disagree with views on fox - he's done really well against both manchester clubs defensively. Amazing really... once a left back actually plays left back he performs, wherea's under Nigel seem to have to play left wing and we were all wondering... where's our left back gone!!! Superbe stuff saints!! 4 pts from next 2 will be excellent...
Fox gives his all every game. He may only be fringe Premiership but he puts his body on the line. He has a sweet left foot and is a good squad player. We get an endless stream of supposed supporters knocking the players on here. Those same Fox knockers seem to turn a blind eye when Shaw costs us two points against Stoke. Nothing against Shaw 'cos he looks a fantastic player. Just saying that all players make mistakes at times.
Yesterday there were posts on here about Saints making more effort to engage with youngsters, has no one noticed how Fox gets the fans in the family stand going when he takes a corner. I haven't noticed any other player making any effort to engage with the kids here.On another subject have any of you noticed any bias by South Today towards Reading?
Yes Guly has only once in 3 years done anything to impress me..whereas Fox has always given his best..of the two he is progressing with each game..imo he will come good...
[quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint_rednwhite[/bold] wrote: Disagree with views on fox - he's done really well against both manchester clubs defensively. Amazing really... once a left back actually plays left back he performs, wherea's under Nigel seem to have to play left wing and we were all wondering... where's our left back gone!!! Superbe stuff saints!! 4 pts from next 2 will be excellent...[/p][/quote]Fox gives his all every game. He may only be fringe Premiership but he puts his body on the line. He has a sweet left foot and is a good squad player. We get an endless stream of supposed supporters knocking the players on here. Those same Fox knockers seem to turn a blind eye when Shaw costs us two points against Stoke. Nothing against Shaw 'cos he looks a fantastic player. Just saying that all players make mistakes at times.[/p][/quote]Yesterday there were posts on here about Saints making more effort to engage with youngsters, has no one noticed how Fox gets the fans in the family stand going when he takes a corner. I haven't noticed any other player making any effort to engage with the kids here.On another subject have any of you noticed any bias by South Today towards Reading?[/p][/quote]Yes Guly has only once in 3 years done anything to impress me..whereas Fox has always given his best..of the two he is progressing with each game..imo he will come good... warrens 76
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3:07pm Tue 12 Feb 13

allsaintsnocurves says...

Blandford Saints wrote:
Forren is left sided, so not replcement for Jose. Picture is not Hooiveld!,

Good report??!!
It would be harsh to drop Hooiveld after establishing himself really well with Yoshida but Fonte had done the same before injury. Forren could be a gem in the making but we don't need to rush him into the side unless a player under performs. I would bring Fonte back in only as he is captain and drop Hooiveld to the bench.

It is healthy competition and Saints need this at the back so great to see. Pardew will know how to exploit the weaknesses in the Saints team so I think this will be a tough game but if Saints play as well as they did in the 2nd half against United we could get something out of it. A draw would be a great result though!
[quote][p][bold]Blandford Saints[/bold] wrote: Forren is left sided, so not replcement for Jose. Picture is not Hooiveld!, Good report??!![/p][/quote]It would be harsh to drop Hooiveld after establishing himself really well with Yoshida but Fonte had done the same before injury. Forren could be a gem in the making but we don't need to rush him into the side unless a player under performs. I would bring Fonte back in only as he is captain and drop Hooiveld to the bench. It is healthy competition and Saints need this at the back so great to see. Pardew will know how to exploit the weaknesses in the Saints team so I think this will be a tough game but if Saints play as well as they did in the 2nd half against United we could get something out of it. A draw would be a great result though! allsaintsnocurves
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3:24pm Tue 12 Feb 13

milton road says...

I don't know i thought the 10 goals Guly got that helped get us promoted were pretty impressive.
I would rather see him play in his best position under this guy before writing him off.
A lot of people on here were slagging JP to pieces a year ago, now they wipe his butt.
This is a new start for everyone, a new way of play, a new manager. The players have until the end of the season to stake their claim. We should be behind that.
I don't know i thought the 10 goals Guly got that helped get us promoted were pretty impressive. I would rather see him play in his best position under this guy before writing him off. A lot of people on here were slagging JP to pieces a year ago, now they wipe his butt. This is a new start for everyone, a new way of play, a new manager. The players have until the end of the season to stake their claim. We should be behind that. milton road
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3:30pm Tue 12 Feb 13

TheSaintsMan says...

Why should Jose have any trouble? Hooiveld is doing well with Maya but Maya and Fonte will do just as well and better together. Hooiveld takes a long time to gel with new team-mates and is not the standard of Fonte and Maya. Jose is also one of our best players and, in my opinion, should be captain.
Why should Jose have any trouble? Hooiveld is doing well with Maya but Maya and Fonte will do just as well and better together. Hooiveld takes a long time to gel with new team-mates and is not the standard of Fonte and Maya. Jose is also one of our best players and, in my opinion, should be captain. TheSaintsMan
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3:31pm Tue 12 Feb 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

In my opinion a fully fit and motivated Guly will still be a useful weapon in the armoury, not every team we play will be the same, so having different options on the bench is always handy.
In my opinion a fully fit and motivated Guly will still be a useful weapon in the armoury, not every team we play will be the same, so having different options on the bench is always handy. OSPREYSAINT
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3:32pm Tue 12 Feb 13

JohnItaly says...

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Blandford Saints wrote:
Forren is left sided, so not replcement for Jose. Picture is not Hooiveld!,

Good report??!!
It would be harsh to drop Hooiveld after establishing himself really well with Yoshida but Fonte had done the same before injury. Forren could be a gem in the making but we don't need to rush him into the side unless a player under performs. I would bring Fonte back in only as he is captain and drop Hooiveld to the bench.

It is healthy competition and Saints need this at the back so great to see. Pardew will know how to exploit the weaknesses in the Saints team so I think this will be a tough game but if Saints play as well as they did in the 2nd half against United we could get something out of it. A draw would be a great result though!
It could be argued that the "weaknesses in the Saints team" was down to NA's team selection, tactics and substitutions. Under MP these "weaknesses" appear to have been eliminated so AP will have a whole new set of problems to overcome when the two teams meet. Play as we have over the past 4 games and Newcastle will need to be at their best to get anything out of the game. COYR.
[quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blandford Saints[/bold] wrote: Forren is left sided, so not replcement for Jose. Picture is not Hooiveld!, Good report??!![/p][/quote]It would be harsh to drop Hooiveld after establishing himself really well with Yoshida but Fonte had done the same before injury. Forren could be a gem in the making but we don't need to rush him into the side unless a player under performs. I would bring Fonte back in only as he is captain and drop Hooiveld to the bench. It is healthy competition and Saints need this at the back so great to see. Pardew will know how to exploit the weaknesses in the Saints team so I think this will be a tough game but if Saints play as well as they did in the 2nd half against United we could get something out of it. A draw would be a great result though![/p][/quote]It could be argued that the "weaknesses in the Saints team" was down to NA's team selection, tactics and substitutions. Under MP these "weaknesses" appear to have been eliminated so AP will have a whole new set of problems to overcome when the two teams meet. Play as we have over the past 4 games and Newcastle will need to be at their best to get anything out of the game. COYR. JohnItaly
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3:36pm Tue 12 Feb 13

saintysaintsaint says...

Once Ramirez is fully fit, I reckon we'll be unbeatable

Boruc

Clyne Yoshida Forren Shaw

Schneiderlin Cork
Puncheon Ramirez Lallana

Lambert

Subs: Gazza, Fox, Fonte, JWP, Davis, J-Rod, Mayuka

Looks pretty decent to me
Once Ramirez is fully fit, I reckon we'll be unbeatable Boruc Clyne Yoshida Forren Shaw Schneiderlin Cork Puncheon Ramirez Lallana Lambert Subs: Gazza, Fox, Fonte, JWP, Davis, J-Rod, Mayuka Looks pretty decent to me saintysaintsaint
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3:40pm Tue 12 Feb 13

El Santo says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw!

Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck!
I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball.
With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them!
No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing!
I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country.
I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team.
Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes.
Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw! Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck![/p][/quote]I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball. With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them![/p][/quote]No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing![/p][/quote]I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country. I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team. Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes. Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice. El Santo
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3:44pm Tue 12 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

JohnItaly wrote:
allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Blandford Saints wrote:
Forren is left sided, so not replcement for Jose. Picture is not Hooiveld!,

Good report??!!
It would be harsh to drop Hooiveld after establishing himself really well with Yoshida but Fonte had done the same before injury. Forren could be a gem in the making but we don't need to rush him into the side unless a player under performs. I would bring Fonte back in only as he is captain and drop Hooiveld to the bench.

It is healthy competition and Saints need this at the back so great to see. Pardew will know how to exploit the weaknesses in the Saints team so I think this will be a tough game but if Saints play as well as they did in the 2nd half against United we could get something out of it. A draw would be a great result though!
It could be argued that the "weaknesses in the Saints team" was down to NA's team selection, tactics and substitutions. Under MP these "weaknesses" appear to have been eliminated so AP will have a whole new set of problems to overcome when the two teams meet. Play as we have over the past 4 games and Newcastle will need to be at their best to get anything out of the game. COYR.
This is our Southampton remember..

..only England were better at building the fans up then cockin it up...

Hold on to our hats lads it will be interesting..

Newcastle at home with 50.000 geordies screaming them on is not quite a walk in the park...
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blandford Saints[/bold] wrote: Forren is left sided, so not replcement for Jose. Picture is not Hooiveld!, Good report??!![/p][/quote]It would be harsh to drop Hooiveld after establishing himself really well with Yoshida but Fonte had done the same before injury. Forren could be a gem in the making but we don't need to rush him into the side unless a player under performs. I would bring Fonte back in only as he is captain and drop Hooiveld to the bench. It is healthy competition and Saints need this at the back so great to see. Pardew will know how to exploit the weaknesses in the Saints team so I think this will be a tough game but if Saints play as well as they did in the 2nd half against United we could get something out of it. A draw would be a great result though![/p][/quote]It could be argued that the "weaknesses in the Saints team" was down to NA's team selection, tactics and substitutions. Under MP these "weaknesses" appear to have been eliminated so AP will have a whole new set of problems to overcome when the two teams meet. Play as we have over the past 4 games and Newcastle will need to be at their best to get anything out of the game. COYR.[/p][/quote]This is our Southampton remember.. ..only England were better at building the fans up then cockin it up... Hold on to our hats lads it will be interesting.. Newcastle at home with 50.000 geordies screaming them on is not quite a walk in the park... warrens 76
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3:46pm Tue 12 Feb 13

SaintJD says...

I find it interesting that Rickie Lambert - who everyone used to tell me was just too knackered to play more than 75 mins max every game so needed to be subbed early and rested for big games - seems more than able to play 90 minutes at a higher intensity under MP.

Has he suddenly improved his fitness or was he able to do this all along?

Of course he could pick up an injury, but he seems to be doing pretty well so far.
I find it interesting that Rickie Lambert - who everyone used to tell me was just too knackered to play more than 75 mins max every game so needed to be subbed early and rested for big games - seems more than able to play 90 minutes at a higher intensity under MP. Has he suddenly improved his fitness or was he able to do this all along? Of course he could pick up an injury, but he seems to be doing pretty well so far. SaintJD
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3:46pm Tue 12 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

El Santo wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw!

Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck!
I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball.
With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them!
No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing!
I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country.
I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team.
Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes.
Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.
J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need...

..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present.
[quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw! Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck![/p][/quote]I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball. With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them![/p][/quote]No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing![/p][/quote]I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country. I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team. Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes. Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.[/p][/quote]J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need... ..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present. warrens 76
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3:54pm Tue 12 Feb 13

billythesaint says...

saintysaintsaint wrote:
Once Ramirez is fully fit, I reckon we'll be unbeatable

Boruc

Clyne Yoshida Forren Shaw

Schneiderlin Cork
Puncheon Ramirez Lallana

Lambert

Subs: Gazza, Fox, Fonte, JWP, Davis, J-Rod, Mayuka

Looks pretty decent to me
Now, that's our best team, agreed.
[quote][p][bold]saintysaintsaint[/bold] wrote: Once Ramirez is fully fit, I reckon we'll be unbeatable Boruc Clyne Yoshida Forren Shaw Schneiderlin Cork Puncheon Ramirez Lallana Lambert Subs: Gazza, Fox, Fonte, JWP, Davis, J-Rod, Mayuka Looks pretty decent to me[/p][/quote]Now, that's our best team, agreed. billythesaint
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3:58pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Confucious says...

Hobson82 wrote:
Jose will deifnatley have a battle on his hands to get his position back. Jos and Maya look solid at the moment. Does everyone know that Jos can speak Japanese? True story.
I think he was just screaming with pain after he'd got that kick in the shins off Nasri ie "Owa oooouuch ker aw hooowch shita!"
[quote][p][bold]Hobson82[/bold] wrote: Jose will deifnatley have a battle on his hands to get his position back. Jos and Maya look solid at the moment. Does everyone know that Jos can speak Japanese? True story.[/p][/quote]I think he was just screaming with pain after he'd got that kick in the shins off Nasri ie "Owa oooouuch ker aw hooowch shita!" Confucious
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4:16pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Alicesdad says...

billythesaint wrote:
saintysaintsaint wrote:
Once Ramirez is fully fit, I reckon we'll be unbeatable

Boruc

Clyne Yoshida Forren Shaw

Schneiderlin Cork
Puncheon Ramirez Lallana

Lambert

Subs: Gazza, Fox, Fonte, JWP, Davis, J-Rod, Mayuka

Looks pretty decent to me
Now, that's our best team, agreed.
Looks amazing team but Ill reserve judgement until I see Forren actually play. So I'd put Jose back in. Other than that - spot on.
[quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintysaintsaint[/bold] wrote: Once Ramirez is fully fit, I reckon we'll be unbeatable Boruc Clyne Yoshida Forren Shaw Schneiderlin Cork Puncheon Ramirez Lallana Lambert Subs: Gazza, Fox, Fonte, JWP, Davis, J-Rod, Mayuka Looks pretty decent to me[/p][/quote]Now, that's our best team, agreed.[/p][/quote]Looks amazing team but Ill reserve judgement until I see Forren actually play. So I'd put Jose back in. Other than that - spot on. Alicesdad
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4:33pm Tue 12 Feb 13

El Santo says...

warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw!

Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck!
I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball.
With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them!
No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing!
I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country.
I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team.
Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes.
Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.
J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need...

..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present.
I agree with you... theoretically. But if you have a look at his stats in the last 4 games and his style of football... I think he is winning a spot in Pochie's heart. Lallana and Gaston are more skillful and, in my opinion, better football players, but they may not fit so well within the "new regime".
And Puncheon is doing really well.
Lallana will have to up his game (more pace, more pressing) even more in the near future if he wants to play. And he will. I think we haven't seen the best Lallana yet.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw! Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck![/p][/quote]I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball. With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them![/p][/quote]No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing![/p][/quote]I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country. I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team. Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes. Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.[/p][/quote]J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need... ..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present.[/p][/quote]I agree with you... theoretically. But if you have a look at his stats in the last 4 games and his style of football... I think he is winning a spot in Pochie's heart. Lallana and Gaston are more skillful and, in my opinion, better football players, but they may not fit so well within the "new regime". And Puncheon is doing really well. Lallana will have to up his game (more pace, more pressing) even more in the near future if he wants to play. And he will. I think we haven't seen the best Lallana yet. El Santo
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4:57pm Tue 12 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

El Santo wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw!

Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck!
I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball.
With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them!
No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing!
I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country.
I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team.
Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes.
Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.
J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need...

..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present.
I agree with you... theoretically. But if you have a look at his stats in the last 4 games and his style of football... I think he is winning a spot in Pochie's heart. Lallana and Gaston are more skillful and, in my opinion, better football players, but they may not fit so well within the "new regime".
And Puncheon is doing really well.
Lallana will have to up his game (more pace, more pressing) even more in the near future if he wants to play. And he will. I think we haven't seen the best Lallana yet.
You know whilst I really like Lallana i have to say that even last season he did suffer from a touch too many syndrome....

... also reminiscent of the early Giggs his final ball more often than not let him/us down..

...also he has more nearly goals to his credit than any other player..

His game is about 3-5% from being otherworldly.. ergo I do not want him to be another Joe Cole...

MoPo will either make him or break him..the former would be utterly sensational for all concerned.
[quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw! Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck![/p][/quote]I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball. With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them![/p][/quote]No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing![/p][/quote]I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country. I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team. Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes. Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.[/p][/quote]J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need... ..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present.[/p][/quote]I agree with you... theoretically. But if you have a look at his stats in the last 4 games and his style of football... I think he is winning a spot in Pochie's heart. Lallana and Gaston are more skillful and, in my opinion, better football players, but they may not fit so well within the "new regime". And Puncheon is doing really well. Lallana will have to up his game (more pace, more pressing) even more in the near future if he wants to play. And he will. I think we haven't seen the best Lallana yet.[/p][/quote]You know whilst I really like Lallana i have to say that even last season he did suffer from a touch too many syndrome.... ... also reminiscent of the early Giggs his final ball more often than not let him/us down.. ...also he has more nearly goals to his credit than any other player.. His game is about 3-5% from being otherworldly.. ergo I do not want him to be another Joe Cole... MoPo will either make him or break him..the former would be utterly sensational for all concerned. warrens 76
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4:59pm Tue 12 Feb 13

St Retford says...

Well I'd just like to wish Pompey good luck ahead of their bid to break their record for consecutive losses tonight. It's not going to be easy because Hartlepool are absolutely dire, but I've every faith in them.

FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS!
Well I'd just like to wish Pompey good luck ahead of their bid to break their record for consecutive losses tonight. It's not going to be easy because Hartlepool are absolutely dire, but I've every faith in them. FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS! St Retford
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5:01pm Tue 12 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Strassie, if you post later what time will you be at the travel lodge we will come and say Hi like Cliff Richard with..'Hi fans'.
Strassie, if you post later what time will you be at the travel lodge we will come and say Hi like Cliff Richard with..'Hi fans'. warrens 76
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5:02pm Tue 12 Feb 13

SaintJD says...

Alicesdad wrote:
billythesaint wrote:
saintysaintsaint wrote:
Once Ramirez is fully fit, I reckon we'll be unbeatable

Boruc

Clyne Yoshida Forren Shaw

Schneiderlin Cork
Puncheon Ramirez Lallana

Lambert

Subs: Gazza, Fox, Fonte, JWP, Davis, J-Rod, Mayuka

Looks pretty decent to me
Now, that's our best team, agreed.
Looks amazing team but Ill reserve judgement until I see Forren actually play. So I'd put Jose back in. Other than that - spot on.
J-Rod for Ramirez for me because I think he takes the pressure off Rickie and has been key to the success of our pressing game in recent weeks 0- gives teams more to think about.

Got to assume Forren is seen as the future at centre back, alongside Maya.

For me it is Lallana or Ramirez battling out for one place - similar players but Adam wins it hands down for me at the moment. And I think he's shown he'll fight for the cause a bit more, and sustain it for longer, than Ramirez.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintysaintsaint[/bold] wrote: Once Ramirez is fully fit, I reckon we'll be unbeatable Boruc Clyne Yoshida Forren Shaw Schneiderlin Cork Puncheon Ramirez Lallana Lambert Subs: Gazza, Fox, Fonte, JWP, Davis, J-Rod, Mayuka Looks pretty decent to me[/p][/quote]Now, that's our best team, agreed.[/p][/quote]Looks amazing team but Ill reserve judgement until I see Forren actually play. So I'd put Jose back in. Other than that - spot on.[/p][/quote]J-Rod for Ramirez for me because I think he takes the pressure off Rickie and has been key to the success of our pressing game in recent weeks 0- gives teams more to think about. Got to assume Forren is seen as the future at centre back, alongside Maya. For me it is Lallana or Ramirez battling out for one place - similar players but Adam wins it hands down for me at the moment. And I think he's shown he'll fight for the cause a bit more, and sustain it for longer, than Ramirez. SaintJD
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5:05pm Tue 12 Feb 13

right back in the bar says...

Need to keep some perspective here. I am as enthused as anyone else about the tranformation in our performances but I draw the line at all this talk of Hooiveld being a shoe in at centre half. For me he is the weak link in the team and Fonte should get his place back immediately assuming he is fully fit. Not so sure about AL - JRod or Davis would have to step down and both were superb against City. Nice problem to have. To my mind Gaston is the player who has to work hardest to get his place back in the starting line up.
Need to keep some perspective here. I am as enthused as anyone else about the tranformation in our performances but I draw the line at all this talk of Hooiveld being a shoe in at centre half. For me he is the weak link in the team and Fonte should get his place back immediately assuming he is fully fit. Not so sure about AL - JRod or Davis would have to step down and both were superb against City. Nice problem to have. To my mind Gaston is the player who has to work hardest to get his place back in the starting line up. right back in the bar
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5:05pm Tue 12 Feb 13

SaintJD says...

St Retford wrote:
Well I'd just like to wish Pompey good luck ahead of their bid to break their record for consecutive losses tonight. It's not going to be easy because Hartlepool are absolutely dire, but I've every faith in them.

FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS!
Have Pompey even got an official manager at the moment? I notice there was no current Portsmouth manager in the BBC manager league table they announced last week so I assume not, because clearly his points to games ratio would have put him clear bottom of the 100. Or maybe that was just the top 100 I guess?
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Well I'd just like to wish Pompey good luck ahead of their bid to break their record for consecutive losses tonight. It's not going to be easy because Hartlepool are absolutely dire, but I've every faith in them. FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS![/p][/quote]Have Pompey even got an official manager at the moment? I notice there was no current Portsmouth manager in the BBC manager league table they announced last week so I assume not, because clearly his points to games ratio would have put him clear bottom of the 100. Or maybe that was just the top 100 I guess? SaintJD
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5:06pm Tue 12 Feb 13

El Santo says...

warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw!

Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck!
I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball.
With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them!
No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing!
I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country.
I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team.
Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes.
Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.
J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need...

..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present.
I agree with you... theoretically. But if you have a look at his stats in the last 4 games and his style of football... I think he is winning a spot in Pochie's heart. Lallana and Gaston are more skillful and, in my opinion, better football players, but they may not fit so well within the "new regime".
And Puncheon is doing really well.
Lallana will have to up his game (more pace, more pressing) even more in the near future if he wants to play. And he will. I think we haven't seen the best Lallana yet.
You know whilst I really like Lallana i have to say that even last season he did suffer from a touch too many syndrome....

... also reminiscent of the early Giggs his final ball more often than not let him/us down..

...also he has more nearly goals to his credit than any other player..

His game is about 3-5% from being otherworldly.. ergo I do not want him to be another Joe Cole...

MoPo will either make him or break him..the former would be utterly sensational for all concerned.
Now we agree both theoretically and practically. I think he has been too comfortable in the last years, being head and shoulders above everyone else. Agree on the break or make, although I am optimistic and think it will be "make". He reminds me of the younger Messi, great talent but never finishing what he started creating lots of chances for the rest of the team but missing his. Until he learned.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw! Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck![/p][/quote]I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball. With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them![/p][/quote]No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing![/p][/quote]I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country. I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team. Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes. Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.[/p][/quote]J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need... ..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present.[/p][/quote]I agree with you... theoretically. But if you have a look at his stats in the last 4 games and his style of football... I think he is winning a spot in Pochie's heart. Lallana and Gaston are more skillful and, in my opinion, better football players, but they may not fit so well within the "new regime". And Puncheon is doing really well. Lallana will have to up his game (more pace, more pressing) even more in the near future if he wants to play. And he will. I think we haven't seen the best Lallana yet.[/p][/quote]You know whilst I really like Lallana i have to say that even last season he did suffer from a touch too many syndrome.... ... also reminiscent of the early Giggs his final ball more often than not let him/us down.. ...also he has more nearly goals to his credit than any other player.. His game is about 3-5% from being otherworldly.. ergo I do not want him to be another Joe Cole... MoPo will either make him or break him..the former would be utterly sensational for all concerned.[/p][/quote]Now we agree both theoretically and practically. I think he has been too comfortable in the last years, being head and shoulders above everyone else. Agree on the break or make, although I am optimistic and think it will be "make". He reminds me of the younger Messi, great talent but never finishing what he started creating lots of chances for the rest of the team but missing his. Until he learned. El Santo
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5:07pm Tue 12 Feb 13

SO50 Saint says...

JD i don't think he has picked up a point since being in charge so should imagine he's not in the 100 even though there are only 91 other clubs
JD i don't think he has picked up a point since being in charge so should imagine he's not in the 100 even though there are only 91 other clubs SO50 Saint
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5:08pm Tue 12 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

El Santo wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw!

Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck!
I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball.
With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them!
No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing!
I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country.
I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team.
Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes.
Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.
J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need...

..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present.
I agree with you... theoretically. But if you have a look at his stats in the last 4 games and his style of football... I think he is winning a spot in Pochie's heart. Lallana and Gaston are more skillful and, in my opinion, better football players, but they may not fit so well within the "new regime".
And Puncheon is doing really well.
Lallana will have to up his game (more pace, more pressing) even more in the near future if he wants to play. And he will. I think we haven't seen the best Lallana yet.
You know whilst I really like Lallana i have to say that even last season he did suffer from a touch too many syndrome....

... also reminiscent of the early Giggs his final ball more often than not let him/us down..

...also he has more nearly goals to his credit than any other player..

His game is about 3-5% from being otherworldly.. ergo I do not want him to be another Joe Cole...

MoPo will either make him or break him..the former would be utterly sensational for all concerned.
Now we agree both theoretically and practically. I think he has been too comfortable in the last years, being head and shoulders above everyone else. Agree on the break or make, although I am optimistic and think it will be "make". He reminds me of the younger Messi, great talent but never finishing what he started creating lots of chances for the rest of the team but missing his. Until he learned.
Together as one!
[quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw! Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck![/p][/quote]I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball. With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them![/p][/quote]No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing![/p][/quote]I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country. I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team. Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes. Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.[/p][/quote]J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need... ..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present.[/p][/quote]I agree with you... theoretically. But if you have a look at his stats in the last 4 games and his style of football... I think he is winning a spot in Pochie's heart. Lallana and Gaston are more skillful and, in my opinion, better football players, but they may not fit so well within the "new regime". And Puncheon is doing really well. Lallana will have to up his game (more pace, more pressing) even more in the near future if he wants to play. And he will. I think we haven't seen the best Lallana yet.[/p][/quote]You know whilst I really like Lallana i have to say that even last season he did suffer from a touch too many syndrome.... ... also reminiscent of the early Giggs his final ball more often than not let him/us down.. ...also he has more nearly goals to his credit than any other player.. His game is about 3-5% from being otherworldly.. ergo I do not want him to be another Joe Cole... MoPo will either make him or break him..the former would be utterly sensational for all concerned.[/p][/quote]Now we agree both theoretically and practically. I think he has been too comfortable in the last years, being head and shoulders above everyone else. Agree on the break or make, although I am optimistic and think it will be "make". He reminds me of the younger Messi, great talent but never finishing what he started creating lots of chances for the rest of the team but missing his. Until he learned.[/p][/quote]Together as one! warrens 76
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5:11pm Tue 12 Feb 13

SaintJD says...

right back in the bar wrote:
Need to keep some perspective here. I am as enthused as anyone else about the tranformation in our performances but I draw the line at all this talk of Hooiveld being a shoe in at centre half. For me he is the weak link in the team and Fonte should get his place back immediately assuming he is fully fit. Not so sure about AL - JRod or Davis would have to step down and both were superb against City. Nice problem to have. To my mind Gaston is the player who has to work hardest to get his place back in the starting line up.
Agree they were all superb, but I think MP is a pretty astute tactician and will pick a team for every game regardless of the previous performance.

Newcastle away is a tricky one - he may stick with three defensive midfielders depending on how attacking he wants to be, but I expect him to go with only two for all but the toughest fixtures, with Adam coming in for Davis in those.

Agree on Gaston too. For some reason I see him moving on fairly quickly come the summer, but would have to be on Saint's terms if he does.
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: Need to keep some perspective here. I am as enthused as anyone else about the tranformation in our performances but I draw the line at all this talk of Hooiveld being a shoe in at centre half. For me he is the weak link in the team and Fonte should get his place back immediately assuming he is fully fit. Not so sure about AL - JRod or Davis would have to step down and both were superb against City. Nice problem to have. To my mind Gaston is the player who has to work hardest to get his place back in the starting line up.[/p][/quote]Agree they were all superb, but I think MP is a pretty astute tactician and will pick a team for every game regardless of the previous performance. Newcastle away is a tricky one - he may stick with three defensive midfielders depending on how attacking he wants to be, but I expect him to go with only two for all but the toughest fixtures, with Adam coming in for Davis in those. Agree on Gaston too. For some reason I see him moving on fairly quickly come the summer, but would have to be on Saint's terms if he does. SaintJD
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5:11pm Tue 12 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw!

Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck!
I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball.
With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them!
No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing!
I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country.
I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team.
Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes.
Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.
J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need...

..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present.
I agree with you... theoretically. But if you have a look at his stats in the last 4 games and his style of football... I think he is winning a spot in Pochie's heart. Lallana and Gaston are more skillful and, in my opinion, better football players, but they may not fit so well within the "new regime".
And Puncheon is doing really well.
Lallana will have to up his game (more pace, more pressing) even more in the near future if he wants to play. And he will. I think we haven't seen the best Lallana yet.
You know whilst I really like Lallana i have to say that even last season he did suffer from a touch too many syndrome....

... also reminiscent of the early Giggs his final ball more often than not let him/us down..

...also he has more nearly goals to his credit than any other player..

His game is about 3-5% from being otherworldly.. ergo I do not want him to be another Joe Cole...

MoPo will either make him or break him..the former would be utterly sensational for all concerned.
Now we agree both theoretically and practically. I think he has been too comfortable in the last years, being head and shoulders above everyone else. Agree on the break or make, although I am optimistic and think it will be "make". He reminds me of the younger Messi, great talent but never finishing what he started creating lots of chances for the rest of the team but missing his. Until he learned.
Together as one!
El Santo were are you in Spain?

Wife and I shall summer in Tarango (i think) about 100 klicks south of Barca..fantastic fishing for sea bass in the med..crazy but true..one of the few protected areas..stunning food scenary and relatively unspoilt..Catalan magic..
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw! Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck![/p][/quote]I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball. With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them![/p][/quote]No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing![/p][/quote]I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country. I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team. Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes. Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.[/p][/quote]J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need... ..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present.[/p][/quote]I agree with you... theoretically. But if you have a look at his stats in the last 4 games and his style of football... I think he is winning a spot in Pochie's heart. Lallana and Gaston are more skillful and, in my opinion, better football players, but they may not fit so well within the "new regime". And Puncheon is doing really well. Lallana will have to up his game (more pace, more pressing) even more in the near future if he wants to play. And he will. I think we haven't seen the best Lallana yet.[/p][/quote]You know whilst I really like Lallana i have to say that even last season he did suffer from a touch too many syndrome.... ... also reminiscent of the early Giggs his final ball more often than not let him/us down.. ...also he has more nearly goals to his credit than any other player.. His game is about 3-5% from being otherworldly.. ergo I do not want him to be another Joe Cole... MoPo will either make him or break him..the former would be utterly sensational for all concerned.[/p][/quote]Now we agree both theoretically and practically. I think he has been too comfortable in the last years, being head and shoulders above everyone else. Agree on the break or make, although I am optimistic and think it will be "make". He reminds me of the younger Messi, great talent but never finishing what he started creating lots of chances for the rest of the team but missing his. Until he learned.[/p][/quote]Together as one![/p][/quote]El Santo were are you in Spain? Wife and I shall summer in Tarango (i think) about 100 klicks south of Barca..fantastic fishing for sea bass in the med..crazy but true..one of the few protected areas..stunning food scenary and relatively unspoilt..Catalan magic.. warrens 76
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5:12pm Tue 12 Feb 13

slugger says...

My guess is that NO player is a "shoe in" in Mauricio's eyes so they All have to prove themselves every week in training , all places are up for grabs and everyone tries as hard as they possibly can all of the time ....... good plan imo .
My guess is that NO player is a "shoe in" in Mauricio's eyes so they All have to prove themselves every week in training , all places are up for grabs and everyone tries as hard as they possibly can all of the time ....... good plan imo . slugger
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5:47pm Tue 12 Feb 13

saintmac says...

Stnana - South Todays bias towards
Reading is because Sally is a Reading
suporter. To be fair she always gives credit to Saints.
Stnana - South Todays bias towards Reading is because Sally is a Reading suporter. To be fair she always gives credit to Saints. saintmac
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5:49pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Velleity says...

Ref Guly.

Lots of people seem to like him (I do) and lots don't.

Why don't we all agree that if he doesn't get picked by our fine, clearly inspirational, manager we'll accept that there may be something some of us are missing. He'll be being passed on by a team of people much better informed that all of us put together.

Equally, if he is played again, let's all accept the same. There must be something some of us are missing.

However, if he DOES end up on the pitch, every single one of us should hound any boo-ers out of St Marys with pointed sticks and furious vengeance.
Ref Guly. Lots of people seem to like him (I do) and lots don't. Why don't we all agree that if he doesn't get picked by our fine, clearly inspirational, manager we'll accept that there may be something some of us are missing. He'll be being passed on by a team of people much better informed that all of us put together. Equally, if he is played again, let's all accept the same. There must be something some of us are missing. However, if he DOES end up on the pitch, every single one of us should hound any boo-ers out of St Marys with pointed sticks and furious vengeance. Velleity
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6:08pm Tue 12 Feb 13

milton road says...

Interesting Gorkss certain fans were ranting about cos he did not come to Saints from Warnock's QPR is so great he has gone from Reading to Wolves on loan.

I agree with a couple of posts above we have a squad and the team will differ to the opposition we face. Still think though whoever we play will be a high press. There will always be subs because of the work load on the midfield.
The thing is we have a Manager who knows this system and how to get the best from it and the players. Maybe a hairy run in but exciting.
Interesting Gorkss certain fans were ranting about cos he did not come to Saints from Warnock's QPR is so great he has gone from Reading to Wolves on loan. I agree with a couple of posts above we have a squad and the team will differ to the opposition we face. Still think though whoever we play will be a high press. There will always be subs because of the work load on the midfield. The thing is we have a Manager who knows this system and how to get the best from it and the players. Maybe a hairy run in but exciting. milton road
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6:15pm Tue 12 Feb 13

redsnapper says...

Jose will just have to wait.

I cant see Poch doing anything except replacing Fox with Shaw for the next game.

Jose took a few weeks to bed in this season, and with the Poch game plan now demanding even more speed it will be the subs bench for a while for JF.
Jose will just have to wait. I cant see Poch doing anything except replacing Fox with Shaw for the next game. Jose took a few weeks to bed in this season, and with the Poch game plan now demanding even more speed it will be the subs bench for a while for JF. redsnapper
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6:23pm Tue 12 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Velleity wrote:
Ref Guly.

Lots of people seem to like him (I do) and lots don't.

Why don't we all agree that if he doesn't get picked by our fine, clearly inspirational, manager we'll accept that there may be something some of us are missing. He'll be being passed on by a team of people much better informed that all of us put together.

Equally, if he is played again, let's all accept the same. There must be something some of us are missing.

However, if he DOES end up on the pitch, every single one of us should hound any boo-ers out of St Marys with pointed sticks and furious vengeance.
Never been in any doubt Velleity ..takes a numb nuts to pi$$ off there own player and make a bad situation worse..

...however personally he does not impress me, here in an open and fwank discussion I can say that..sowwy a bit of Woy kwept in...
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: Ref Guly. Lots of people seem to like him (I do) and lots don't. Why don't we all agree that if he doesn't get picked by our fine, clearly inspirational, manager we'll accept that there may be something some of us are missing. He'll be being passed on by a team of people much better informed that all of us put together. Equally, if he is played again, let's all accept the same. There must be something some of us are missing. However, if he DOES end up on the pitch, every single one of us should hound any boo-ers out of St Marys with pointed sticks and furious vengeance.[/p][/quote]Never been in any doubt Velleity ..takes a numb nuts to pi$$ off there own player and make a bad situation worse.. ...however personally he does not impress me, here in an open and fwank discussion I can say that..sowwy a bit of Woy kwept in... warrens 76
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6:30pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Confucious says...

Jos or Jose or Yosh? When you look at it there's really not much in it.
Jos or Jose or Yosh? When you look at it there's really not much in it. Confucious
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6:35pm Tue 12 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Confucious wrote:
Jos or Jose or Yosh? When you look at it there's really not much in it.
i think your joshing!
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Jos or Jose or Yosh? When you look at it there's really not much in it.[/p][/quote]i think your joshing! warrens 76
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6:47pm Tue 12 Feb 13

El Santo says...

warrens 76 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw!

Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck!
I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball.
With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them!
No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing!
I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country.
I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team.
Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes.
Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.
J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need...

..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present.
I agree with you... theoretically. But if you have a look at his stats in the last 4 games and his style of football... I think he is winning a spot in Pochie's heart. Lallana and Gaston are more skillful and, in my opinion, better football players, but they may not fit so well within the "new regime".
And Puncheon is doing really well.
Lallana will have to up his game (more pace, more pressing) even more in the near future if he wants to play. And he will. I think we haven't seen the best Lallana yet.
You know whilst I really like Lallana i have to say that even last season he did suffer from a touch too many syndrome....

... also reminiscent of the early Giggs his final ball more often than not let him/us down..

...also he has more nearly goals to his credit than any other player..

His game is about 3-5% from being otherworldly.. ergo I do not want him to be another Joe Cole...

MoPo will either make him or break him..the former would be utterly sensational for all concerned.
Now we agree both theoretically and practically. I think he has been too comfortable in the last years, being head and shoulders above everyone else. Agree on the break or make, although I am optimistic and think it will be "make". He reminds me of the younger Messi, great talent but never finishing what he started creating lots of chances for the rest of the team but missing his. Until he learned.
Together as one!
El Santo were are you in Spain?

Wife and I shall summer in Tarango (i think) about 100 klicks south of Barca..fantastic fishing for sea bass in the med..crazy but true..one of the few protected areas..stunning food scenary and relatively unspoilt..Catalan magic..
That sounds really good. I might actually visit the area next year, with a bit of luck. I am in Soton, actually...
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw! Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck![/p][/quote]I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball. With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them![/p][/quote]No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing![/p][/quote]I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country. I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team. Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes. Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.[/p][/quote]J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need... ..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present.[/p][/quote]I agree with you... theoretically. But if you have a look at his stats in the last 4 games and his style of football... I think he is winning a spot in Pochie's heart. Lallana and Gaston are more skillful and, in my opinion, better football players, but they may not fit so well within the "new regime". And Puncheon is doing really well. Lallana will have to up his game (more pace, more pressing) even more in the near future if he wants to play. And he will. I think we haven't seen the best Lallana yet.[/p][/quote]You know whilst I really like Lallana i have to say that even last season he did suffer from a touch too many syndrome.... ... also reminiscent of the early Giggs his final ball more often than not let him/us down.. ...also he has more nearly goals to his credit than any other player.. His game is about 3-5% from being otherworldly.. ergo I do not want him to be another Joe Cole... MoPo will either make him or break him..the former would be utterly sensational for all concerned.[/p][/quote]Now we agree both theoretically and practically. I think he has been too comfortable in the last years, being head and shoulders above everyone else. Agree on the break or make, although I am optimistic and think it will be "make". He reminds me of the younger Messi, great talent but never finishing what he started creating lots of chances for the rest of the team but missing his. Until he learned.[/p][/quote]Together as one![/p][/quote]El Santo were are you in Spain? Wife and I shall summer in Tarango (i think) about 100 klicks south of Barca..fantastic fishing for sea bass in the med..crazy but true..one of the few protected areas..stunning food scenary and relatively unspoilt..Catalan magic..[/p][/quote]That sounds really good. I might actually visit the area next year, with a bit of luck. I am in Soton, actually... El Santo
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6:57pm Tue 12 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

El Santo wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw!

Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck!
I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball.
With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them!
No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing!
I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country.
I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team.
Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes.
Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.
J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need...

..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present.
I agree with you... theoretically. But if you have a look at his stats in the last 4 games and his style of football... I think he is winning a spot in Pochie's heart. Lallana and Gaston are more skillful and, in my opinion, better football players, but they may not fit so well within the "new regime".
And Puncheon is doing really well.
Lallana will have to up his game (more pace, more pressing) even more in the near future if he wants to play. And he will. I think we haven't seen the best Lallana yet.
You know whilst I really like Lallana i have to say that even last season he did suffer from a touch too many syndrome....

... also reminiscent of the early Giggs his final ball more often than not let him/us down..

...also he has more nearly goals to his credit than any other player..

His game is about 3-5% from being otherworldly.. ergo I do not want him to be another Joe Cole...

MoPo will either make him or break him..the former would be utterly sensational for all concerned.
Now we agree both theoretically and practically. I think he has been too comfortable in the last years, being head and shoulders above everyone else. Agree on the break or make, although I am optimistic and think it will be "make". He reminds me of the younger Messi, great talent but never finishing what he started creating lots of chances for the rest of the team but missing his. Until he learned.
Together as one!
El Santo were are you in Spain?

Wife and I shall summer in Tarango (i think) about 100 klicks south of Barca..fantastic fishing for sea bass in the med..crazy but true..one of the few protected areas..stunning food scenary and relatively unspoilt..Catalan magic..
That sounds really good. I might actually visit the area next year, with a bit of luck. I am in Soton, actually...
aaahhh Bisto..one should never draw assumptions, or anything that they cannot visualise..!!

So are you going to Newk'astle..

Strassie and sons will be meeting me and mine..Lordy be..
[quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw! Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck![/p][/quote]I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball. With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them![/p][/quote]No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing![/p][/quote]I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country. I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team. Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes. Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.[/p][/quote]J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need... ..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present.[/p][/quote]I agree with you... theoretically. But if you have a look at his stats in the last 4 games and his style of football... I think he is winning a spot in Pochie's heart. Lallana and Gaston are more skillful and, in my opinion, better football players, but they may not fit so well within the "new regime". And Puncheon is doing really well. Lallana will have to up his game (more pace, more pressing) even more in the near future if he wants to play. And he will. I think we haven't seen the best Lallana yet.[/p][/quote]You know whilst I really like Lallana i have to say that even last season he did suffer from a touch too many syndrome.... ... also reminiscent of the early Giggs his final ball more often than not let him/us down.. ...also he has more nearly goals to his credit than any other player.. His game is about 3-5% from being otherworldly.. ergo I do not want him to be another Joe Cole... MoPo will either make him or break him..the former would be utterly sensational for all concerned.[/p][/quote]Now we agree both theoretically and practically. I think he has been too comfortable in the last years, being head and shoulders above everyone else. Agree on the break or make, although I am optimistic and think it will be "make". He reminds me of the younger Messi, great talent but never finishing what he started creating lots of chances for the rest of the team but missing his. Until he learned.[/p][/quote]Together as one![/p][/quote]El Santo were are you in Spain? Wife and I shall summer in Tarango (i think) about 100 klicks south of Barca..fantastic fishing for sea bass in the med..crazy but true..one of the few protected areas..stunning food scenary and relatively unspoilt..Catalan magic..[/p][/quote]That sounds really good. I might actually visit the area next year, with a bit of luck. I am in Soton, actually...[/p][/quote]aaahhh Bisto..one should never draw assumptions, or anything that they cannot visualise..!! So are you going to Newk'astle.. Strassie and sons will be meeting me and mine..Lordy be.. warrens 76
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7:01pm Tue 12 Feb 13

st1halo says...

Velleity wrote:
Ref Guly.

Lots of people seem to like him (I do) and lots don't.

Why don't we all agree that if he doesn't get picked by our fine, clearly inspirational, manager we'll accept that there may be something some of us are missing. He'll be being passed on by a team of people much better informed that all of us put together.

Equally, if he is played again, let's all accept the same. There must be something some of us are missing.

However, if he DOES end up on the pitch, every single one of us should hound any boo-ers out of St Marys with pointed sticks and furious vengeance.
Agreed

STID
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: Ref Guly. Lots of people seem to like him (I do) and lots don't. Why don't we all agree that if he doesn't get picked by our fine, clearly inspirational, manager we'll accept that there may be something some of us are missing. He'll be being passed on by a team of people much better informed that all of us put together. Equally, if he is played again, let's all accept the same. There must be something some of us are missing. However, if he DOES end up on the pitch, every single one of us should hound any boo-ers out of St Marys with pointed sticks and furious vengeance.[/p][/quote]Agreed STID st1halo
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7:08pm Tue 12 Feb 13

st1halo says...

warrens 76 wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Blandford Saints wrote:
Forren is left sided, so not replcement for Jose. Picture is not Hooiveld!,

Good report??!!
It would be harsh to drop Hooiveld after establishing himself really well with Yoshida but Fonte had done the same before injury. Forren could be a gem in the making but we don't need to rush him into the side unless a player under performs. I would bring Fonte back in only as he is captain and drop Hooiveld to the bench.

It is healthy competition and Saints need this at the back so great to see. Pardew will know how to exploit the weaknesses in the Saints team so I think this will be a tough game but if Saints play as well as they did in the 2nd half against United we could get something out of it. A draw would be a great result though!
It could be argued that the "weaknesses in the Saints team" was down to NA's team selection, tactics and substitutions. Under MP these "weaknesses" appear to have been eliminated so AP will have a whole new set of problems to overcome when the two teams meet. Play as we have over the past 4 games and Newcastle will need to be at their best to get anything out of the game. COYR.
This is our Southampton remember..

..only England were better at building the fans up then cockin it up...

Hold on to our hats lads it will be interesting..

Newcastle at home with 50.000 geordies screaming them on is not quite a walk in the park...
St. James is a big pitch too so the lads will have to work even harder to press. Making the ball do the work is going to be key imo.


STID
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blandford Saints[/bold] wrote: Forren is left sided, so not replcement for Jose. Picture is not Hooiveld!, Good report??!![/p][/quote]It would be harsh to drop Hooiveld after establishing himself really well with Yoshida but Fonte had done the same before injury. Forren could be a gem in the making but we don't need to rush him into the side unless a player under performs. I would bring Fonte back in only as he is captain and drop Hooiveld to the bench. It is healthy competition and Saints need this at the back so great to see. Pardew will know how to exploit the weaknesses in the Saints team so I think this will be a tough game but if Saints play as well as they did in the 2nd half against United we could get something out of it. A draw would be a great result though![/p][/quote]It could be argued that the "weaknesses in the Saints team" was down to NA's team selection, tactics and substitutions. Under MP these "weaknesses" appear to have been eliminated so AP will have a whole new set of problems to overcome when the two teams meet. Play as we have over the past 4 games and Newcastle will need to be at their best to get anything out of the game. COYR.[/p][/quote]This is our Southampton remember.. ..only England were better at building the fans up then cockin it up... Hold on to our hats lads it will be interesting.. Newcastle at home with 50.000 geordies screaming them on is not quite a walk in the park...[/p][/quote]St. James is a big pitch too so the lads will have to work even harder to press. Making the ball do the work is going to be key imo. STID st1halo
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7:23pm Tue 12 Feb 13

rocketone says...

That we allegedly made a late and large bid for another midfielder suggests that somebody in the current squad is on borrowed time.
I thought that was the area where needed least improvement.
At the end of this season I think there will be quite a few moving out, and not all of them the players who were with us at the lower level and sitting watching now.
It is quite possible that some of our current heroes could be surplus after purchases.
It is also not impossible that unbelievable offers could be made to players who have now proved they can play in the Prem.
Yes I am a STH and have supported Saints for 40 years.
Players do leave .
Remember Mick Channon? Never going to leave, then MCFC offered him ridiculous money.
Be prepared for some upheaval . It has never been easy to support the Saints, if it was it wouldn't be so much fun
That we allegedly made a late and large bid for another midfielder suggests that somebody in the current squad is on borrowed time. I thought that was the area where needed least improvement. At the end of this season I think there will be quite a few moving out, and not all of them the players who were with us at the lower level and sitting watching now. It is quite possible that some of our current heroes could be surplus after purchases. It is also not impossible that unbelievable offers could be made to players who have now proved they can play in the Prem. Yes I am a STH and have supported Saints for 40 years. Players do leave . Remember Mick Channon? Never going to leave, then MCFC offered him ridiculous money. Be prepared for some upheaval . It has never been easy to support the Saints, if it was it wouldn't be so much fun rocketone
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7:23pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Velleity says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Ref Guly.

Lots of people seem to like him (I do) and lots don't.

Why don't we all agree that if he doesn't get picked by our fine, clearly inspirational, manager we'll accept that there may be something some of us are missing. He'll be being passed on by a team of people much better informed that all of us put together.

Equally, if he is played again, let's all accept the same. There must be something some of us are missing.

However, if he DOES end up on the pitch, every single one of us should hound any boo-ers out of St Marys with pointed sticks and furious vengeance.
Never been in any doubt Velleity ..takes a numb nuts to pi$$ off there own player and make a bad situation worse..

...however personally he does not impress me, here in an open and fwank discussion I can say that..sowwy a bit of Woy kwept in...
Does that make you a w ank outsider for the job of England manager?
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: Ref Guly. Lots of people seem to like him (I do) and lots don't. Why don't we all agree that if he doesn't get picked by our fine, clearly inspirational, manager we'll accept that there may be something some of us are missing. He'll be being passed on by a team of people much better informed that all of us put together. Equally, if he is played again, let's all accept the same. There must be something some of us are missing. However, if he DOES end up on the pitch, every single one of us should hound any boo-ers out of St Marys with pointed sticks and furious vengeance.[/p][/quote]Never been in any doubt Velleity ..takes a numb nuts to pi$$ off there own player and make a bad situation worse.. ...however personally he does not impress me, here in an open and fwank discussion I can say that..sowwy a bit of Woy kwept in...[/p][/quote]Does that make you a w ank outsider for the job of England manager? Velleity
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7:28pm Tue 12 Feb 13

saintkenny says...

saints beat the league champions .and tonight the skunts lose there tenth game in a row .if carlsberg did tuesdays -----
saints beat the league champions .and tonight the skunts lose there tenth game in a row .if carlsberg did tuesdays ----- saintkenny
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7:29pm Tue 12 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Velleity wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Ref Guly.

Lots of people seem to like him (I do) and lots don't.

Why don't we all agree that if he doesn't get picked by our fine, clearly inspirational, manager we'll accept that there may be something some of us are missing. He'll be being passed on by a team of people much better informed that all of us put together.

Equally, if he is played again, let's all accept the same. There must be something some of us are missing.

However, if he DOES end up on the pitch, every single one of us should hound any boo-ers out of St Marys with pointed sticks and furious vengeance.
Never been in any doubt Velleity ..takes a numb nuts to pi$$ off there own player and make a bad situation worse..

...however personally he does not impress me, here in an open and fwank discussion I can say that..sowwy a bit of Woy kwept in...
Does that make you a w ank outsider for the job of England manager?
I think I can make a fist of it!
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: Ref Guly. Lots of people seem to like him (I do) and lots don't. Why don't we all agree that if he doesn't get picked by our fine, clearly inspirational, manager we'll accept that there may be something some of us are missing. He'll be being passed on by a team of people much better informed that all of us put together. Equally, if he is played again, let's all accept the same. There must be something some of us are missing. However, if he DOES end up on the pitch, every single one of us should hound any boo-ers out of St Marys with pointed sticks and furious vengeance.[/p][/quote]Never been in any doubt Velleity ..takes a numb nuts to pi$$ off there own player and make a bad situation worse.. ...however personally he does not impress me, here in an open and fwank discussion I can say that..sowwy a bit of Woy kwept in...[/p][/quote]Does that make you a w ank outsider for the job of England manager?[/p][/quote]I think I can make a fist of it! warrens 76
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7:40pm Tue 12 Feb 13

mack chinnon says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.
You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY)
Come on Hartlepool.
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.[/p][/quote]You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY) Come on Hartlepool. mack chinnon
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7:53pm Tue 12 Feb 13

saintlysoul says...

Having just got in I'm impressed at the posts on here today as they raise very interesting points with hardly any skate bashing!!!!

What the posts tell me is what a fantastic team we have! It seems that to an extent MP is spoilt for choice what a great position to be in!

As people know who have read my posts in the past I have been critical of certain players but I can truthfully say at this point in time there is not one player IMO who I can criticise. I'm impressed how certain players have upped their game. I think Guly, Gaston and Jose will do so once they're back and fit. I think MP is a good motivator and is getting the best out of the players.

I have sung JWP s praises many times however I wonder if he will get into the starting line up on Saturday the midfield was outstanding I think JWP will be used as a sub to come for when players tire like he did for Davis on Saturday who hadn't stopped running assuming of course there is room for JWP on the bench!!!

It's a fantastic position to be in being spoilt for choice and the rest of the season is an incredibly exciting prospect!
Having just got in I'm impressed at the posts on here today as they raise very interesting points with hardly any skate bashing!!!! What the posts tell me is what a fantastic team we have! It seems that to an extent MP is spoilt for choice what a great position to be in! As people know who have read my posts in the past I have been critical of certain players but I can truthfully say at this point in time there is not one player IMO who I can criticise. I'm impressed how certain players have upped their game. I think Guly, Gaston and Jose will do so once they're back and fit. I think MP is a good motivator and is getting the best out of the players. I have sung JWP s praises many times however I wonder if he will get into the starting line up on Saturday the midfield was outstanding I think JWP will be used as a sub to come for when players tire like he did for Davis on Saturday who hadn't stopped running assuming of course there is room for JWP on the bench!!! It's a fantastic position to be in being spoilt for choice and the rest of the season is an incredibly exciting prospect! saintlysoul
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8:15pm Tue 12 Feb 13

slugger says...

Luke Shaw has tweeted that he's back in training ...... All is good .
Luke Shaw has tweeted that he's back in training ...... All is good . slugger
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8:22pm Tue 12 Feb 13

puppy saint says...

slugger wrote:
Luke Shaw has tweeted that he's back in training ...... All is good .
Did I miss anything on Saturday evening? FFS! WAC!
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Luke Shaw has tweeted that he's back in training ...... All is good .[/p][/quote]Did I miss anything on Saturday evening? FFS! WAC! puppy saint
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8:40pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

puppy saint wrote:
slugger wrote:
Luke Shaw has tweeted that he's back in training ...... All is good .
Did I miss anything on Saturday evening? FFS! WAC!
Did you miss anything!?! Bloody massive mush, the skunks equalled their all time worstest everest anytimest everest record!

Oh and we stuffed the champions.
[quote][p][bold]puppy saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Luke Shaw has tweeted that he's back in training ...... All is good .[/p][/quote]Did I miss anything on Saturday evening? FFS! WAC![/p][/quote]Did you miss anything!?! Bloody massive mush, the skunks equalled their all time worstest everest anytimest everest record! Oh and we stuffed the champions. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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8:40pm Tue 12 Feb 13

slugger says...

puppy saint wrote:
slugger wrote:
Luke Shaw has tweeted that he's back in training ...... All is good .
Did I miss anything on Saturday evening? FFS! WAC!
We took a vote on the affect your absence had on our result ....... Matt's dad is coming every week now ...... the motion was carried .
[quote][p][bold]puppy saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: Luke Shaw has tweeted that he's back in training ...... All is good .[/p][/quote]Did I miss anything on Saturday evening? FFS! WAC![/p][/quote]We took a vote on the affect your absence had on our result ....... Matt's dad is coming every week now ...... the motion was carried . slugger
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8:40pm Tue 12 Feb 13

rocketone says...

LiDL aren't winning.
Again.
LiDL aren't winning. Again. rocketone
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8:42pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Confucious says...

Hooi just tweeted to say Adam's tweeted that he's got an e mail from Chappers about Hooi's tweet concerning Adam. It's all happening!
Hooi just tweeted to say Adam's tweeted that he's got an e mail from Chappers about Hooi's tweet concerning Adam. It's all happening! Confucious
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8:42pm Tue 12 Feb 13

St Retford says...

mack chinnon wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.
You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY)
Come on Hartlepool.
Why 'last ever'? What have you heard?

What a place to end it all though.

:(
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.[/p][/quote]You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY) Come on Hartlepool.[/p][/quote]Why 'last ever'? What have you heard? What a place to end it all though. :( St Retford
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8:45pm Tue 12 Feb 13

slugger says...

St Retford wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.
You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY)
Come on Hartlepool.
Why 'last ever'? What have you heard?

What a place to end it all though.

:(
Court case ... 2 days !
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.[/p][/quote]You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY) Come on Hartlepool.[/p][/quote]Why 'last ever'? What have you heard? What a place to end it all though. :([/p][/quote]Court case ... 2 days ! slugger
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8:48pm Tue 12 Feb 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Jon Forte batted one in for Sheff Utd.
Jon Forte batted one in for Sheff Utd. OSPREYSAINT
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8:49pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

slugger wrote:
St Retford wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.
You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY)
Come on Hartlepool.
Why 'last ever'? What have you heard?

What a place to end it all though.

:(
Court case ... 2 days !
I do the count downs if you don't mind.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.[/p][/quote]You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY) Come on Hartlepool.[/p][/quote]Why 'last ever'? What have you heard? What a place to end it all though. :([/p][/quote]Court case ... 2 days ![/p][/quote]I do the count downs if you don't mind. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:01pm Tue 12 Feb 13

insane saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
slugger wrote:
St Retford wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.
You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY)
Come on Hartlepool.
Why 'last ever'? What have you heard?

What a place to end it all though.

:(
Court case ... 2 days !
I do the count downs if you don't mind.
deux sorry doh
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.[/p][/quote]You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY) Come on Hartlepool.[/p][/quote]Why 'last ever'? What have you heard? What a place to end it all though. :([/p][/quote]Court case ... 2 days ![/p][/quote]I do the count downs if you don't mind.[/p][/quote]deux sorry doh insane saint
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9:03pm Tue 12 Feb 13

slugger says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
slugger wrote:
St Retford wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.
You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY)
Come on Hartlepool.
Why 'last ever'? What have you heard?

What a place to end it all though.

:(
Court case ... 2 days !
I do the count downs if you don't mind.
It isn't exactly a countdown , I only answered a question ........ Pardon moi !
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.[/p][/quote]You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY) Come on Hartlepool.[/p][/quote]Why 'last ever'? What have you heard? What a place to end it all though. :([/p][/quote]Court case ... 2 days ![/p][/quote]I do the count downs if you don't mind.[/p][/quote]It isn't exactly a countdown , I only answered a question ........ Pardon moi ! slugger
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9:05pm Tue 12 Feb 13

insane saint says...

insane saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
slugger wrote:
St Retford wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.
You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY)
Come on Hartlepool.
Why 'last ever'? What have you heard?

What a place to end it all though.

:(
Court case ... 2 days !
I do the count downs if you don't mind.
deux sorry doh
they have taken 280 fish to the pool tonight poor poor poor turn out of the greatest bestestbest fans in the world
[quote][p][bold]insane saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.[/p][/quote]You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY) Come on Hartlepool.[/p][/quote]Why 'last ever'? What have you heard? What a place to end it all though. :([/p][/quote]Court case ... 2 days ![/p][/quote]I do the count downs if you don't mind.[/p][/quote]deux sorry doh[/p][/quote]they have taken 280 fish to the pool tonight poor poor poor turn out of the greatest bestestbest fans in the world insane saint
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9:07pm Tue 12 Feb 13

St Retford says...

slugger wrote:
St Retford wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.
You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY)
Come on Hartlepool.
Why 'last ever'? What have you heard?

What a place to end it all though.

:(
Court case ... 2 days !
Ah, I see - is there any chance of it actually happening this time? I assumed it would have been postponed by now.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.[/p][/quote]You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY) Come on Hartlepool.[/p][/quote]Why 'last ever'? What have you heard? What a place to end it all though. :([/p][/quote]Court case ... 2 days ![/p][/quote]Ah, I see - is there any chance of it actually happening this time? I assumed it would have been postponed by now. St Retford
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9:10pm Tue 12 Feb 13

St Retford says...

insane saint wrote:
insane saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
slugger wrote:
St Retford wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.
You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY)
Come on Hartlepool.
Why 'last ever'? What have you heard?

What a place to end it all though.

:(
Court case ... 2 days !
I do the count downs if you don't mind.
deux sorry doh
they have taken 280 fish to the pool tonight poor poor poor turn out of the greatest bestestbest fans in the world
O dear

To be fair, mind, if you were a Pompey fan would YOU go?
[quote][p][bold]insane saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]insane saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.[/p][/quote]You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY) Come on Hartlepool.[/p][/quote]Why 'last ever'? What have you heard? What a place to end it all though. :([/p][/quote]Court case ... 2 days ![/p][/quote]I do the count downs if you don't mind.[/p][/quote]deux sorry doh[/p][/quote]they have taken 280 fish to the pool tonight poor poor poor turn out of the greatest bestestbest fans in the world[/p][/quote]O dear To be fair, mind, if you were a Pompey fan would YOU go? St Retford
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9:12pm Tue 12 Feb 13

insane saint says...

St Retford wrote:
insane saint wrote:
insane saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
slugger wrote:
St Retford wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.
You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY)
Come on Hartlepool.
Why 'last ever'? What have you heard?

What a place to end it all though.

:(
Court case ... 2 days !
I do the count downs if you don't mind.
deux sorry doh
they have taken 280 fish to the pool tonight poor poor poor turn out of the greatest bestestbest fans in the world
O dear

To be fair, mind, if you were a Pompey fan would YOU go?
true i would not waste my money but then have they got any money..
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]insane saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]insane saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.[/p][/quote]You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY) Come on Hartlepool.[/p][/quote]Why 'last ever'? What have you heard? What a place to end it all though. :([/p][/quote]Court case ... 2 days ![/p][/quote]I do the count downs if you don't mind.[/p][/quote]deux sorry doh[/p][/quote]they have taken 280 fish to the pool tonight poor poor poor turn out of the greatest bestestbest fans in the world[/p][/quote]O dear To be fair, mind, if you were a Pompey fan would YOU go?[/p][/quote]true i would not waste my money but then have they got any money.. insane saint
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9:14pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

St Retford wrote:
slugger wrote:
St Retford wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.
You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY)
Come on Hartlepool.
Why 'last ever'? What have you heard?

What a place to end it all though.

:(
Court case ... 2 days !
Ah, I see - is there any chance of it actually happening this time? I assumed it would have been postponed by now.
It's a hearing to set the date for a hearing or something like that. They're going to run out of time at this rate!
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.[/p][/quote]You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY) Come on Hartlepool.[/p][/quote]Why 'last ever'? What have you heard? What a place to end it all though. :([/p][/quote]Court case ... 2 days ![/p][/quote]Ah, I see - is there any chance of it actually happening this time? I assumed it would have been postponed by now.[/p][/quote]It's a hearing to set the date for a hearing or something like that. They're going to run out of time at this rate! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:14pm Tue 12 Feb 13

insane saint says...

bournemouth 1 - 0 up and currently top of their league with the in time tables could ballmouth be top and the fish bottom dwelling before the night is out oh i hope so
bournemouth 1 - 0 up and currently top of their league with the in time tables could ballmouth be top and the fish bottom dwelling before the night is out oh i hope so insane saint
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9:16pm Tue 12 Feb 13

slugger says...

St Retford wrote:
insane saint wrote:
insane saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
slugger wrote:
St Retford wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.
You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY)
Come on Hartlepool.
Why 'last ever'? What have you heard?

What a place to end it all though.

:(
Court case ... 2 days !
I do the count downs if you don't mind.
deux sorry doh
they have taken 280 fish to the pool tonight poor poor poor turn out of the greatest bestestbest fans in the world
O dear

To be fair, mind, if you were a Pompey fan would YOU go?
"If you were a Pompey fan" ........... SHUDDER ........ don't say things like that !
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]insane saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]insane saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.[/p][/quote]You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY) Come on Hartlepool.[/p][/quote]Why 'last ever'? What have you heard? What a place to end it all though. :([/p][/quote]Court case ... 2 days ![/p][/quote]I do the count downs if you don't mind.[/p][/quote]deux sorry doh[/p][/quote]they have taken 280 fish to the pool tonight poor poor poor turn out of the greatest bestestbest fans in the world[/p][/quote]O dear To be fair, mind, if you were a Pompey fan would YOU go?[/p][/quote]"If you were a Pompey fan" ........... SHUDDER ........ don't say things like that ! slugger
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9:18pm Tue 12 Feb 13

circa 66 saint says...

insane saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
insane saint wrote:
insane saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
slugger wrote:
St Retford wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.
You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY)
Come on Hartlepool.
Why 'last ever'? What have you heard?

What a place to end it all though.

:(
Court case ... 2 days !
I do the count downs if you don't mind.
deux sorry doh
they have taken 280 fish to the pool tonight poor poor poor turn out of the greatest bestestbest fans in the world
O dear

To be fair, mind, if you were a Pompey fan would YOU go?
true i would not waste my money but then have they got any money..
poopey don't waste their own money it's always belonged to someone else
[quote][p][bold]insane saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]insane saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]insane saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.[/p][/quote]You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY) Come on Hartlepool.[/p][/quote]Why 'last ever'? What have you heard? What a place to end it all though. :([/p][/quote]Court case ... 2 days ![/p][/quote]I do the count downs if you don't mind.[/p][/quote]deux sorry doh[/p][/quote]they have taken 280 fish to the pool tonight poor poor poor turn out of the greatest bestestbest fans in the world[/p][/quote]O dear To be fair, mind, if you were a Pompey fan would YOU go?[/p][/quote]true i would not waste my money but then have they got any money..[/p][/quote]poopey don't waste their own money it's always belonged to someone else circa 66 saint
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9:19pm Tue 12 Feb 13

angus mc coatup says...

St Retford wrote:
slugger wrote:
St Retford wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.
You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY)
Come on Hartlepool.
Why 'last ever'? What have you heard?

What a place to end it all though.

:(
Court case ... 2 days !
Ah, I see - is there any chance of it actually happening this time? I assumed it would have been postponed by now.
they've postponed, postponing the postponment.Just in case, the case gets postponed till the next postponment.when there will be an adjournment, until the next postponment gets postponed. to the next postponment.then It will be adjourned...........
..that is till the next postponment.

If that makes It an clearer.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.[/p][/quote]You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY) Come on Hartlepool.[/p][/quote]Why 'last ever'? What have you heard? What a place to end it all though. :([/p][/quote]Court case ... 2 days ![/p][/quote]Ah, I see - is there any chance of it actually happening this time? I assumed it would have been postponed by now.[/p][/quote]they've postponed, postponing the postponment.Just in case, the case gets postponed till the next postponment.when there will be an adjournment, until the next postponment gets postponed. to the next postponment.then It will be adjourned........... ..that is till the next postponment. If that makes It an clearer. angus mc coatup
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9:23pm Tue 12 Feb 13

insane saint says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
St Retford wrote:
slugger wrote:
St Retford wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.
You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY)
Come on Hartlepool.
Why 'last ever'? What have you heard?

What a place to end it all though.

:(
Court case ... 2 days !
Ah, I see - is there any chance of it actually happening this time? I assumed it would have been postponed by now.
they've postponed, postponing the postponment.Just in case, the case gets postponed till the next postponment.when there will be an adjournment, until the next postponment gets postponed. to the next postponment.then It will be adjourned...........

..that is till the next postponment.

If that makes It an clearer.
as clear as Portsmouth harbor water
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry to change the subject but it will be interesting to see how many of the worlds greatest football fans are at Hartlepool tonight. I remember on both occasions and both midweek games us filling the away section behind the goal, I wonder if they will be able to do the same.[/p][/quote]You would think that they would want to go and watch there last ever match(HOPEFULLY) Come on Hartlepool.[/p][/quote]Why 'last ever'? What have you heard? What a place to end it all though. :([/p][/quote]Court case ... 2 days ![/p][/quote]Ah, I see - is there any chance of it actually happening this time? I assumed it would have been postponed by now.[/p][/quote]they've postponed, postponing the postponment.Just in case, the case gets postponed till the next postponment.when there will be an adjournment, until the next postponment gets postponed. to the next postponment.then It will be adjourned........... ..that is till the next postponment. If that makes It an clearer.[/p][/quote]as clear as Portsmouth harbor water insane saint
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9:24pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Dotting i's and crossing t's is a very complex thing and is certainly not a laughing matter!
Dotting i's and crossing t's is a very complex thing and is certainly not a laughing matter! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:31pm Tue 12 Feb 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Our token Hoops fan will be a bit miffed tonight Juve 3 up. Cherry just gone 2 1 up Pitman again.
Our token Hoops fan will be a bit miffed tonight Juve 3 up. Cherry just gone 2 1 up Pitman again. OSPREYSAINT
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9:34pm Tue 12 Feb 13

circa 66 saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dotting i's and crossing t's is a very complex thing and is certainly not a laughing matter!
hey seed i see some saddo on the news has been collecting user names from the last 3 weeks and has posted them.
ANORAK or what?

do you reckon he may be the i dotter or the t crosser or just a cross dresser
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Dotting i's and crossing t's is a very complex thing and is certainly not a laughing matter![/p][/quote]hey seed i see some saddo on the news has been collecting user names from the last 3 weeks and has posted them. ANORAK or what? do you reckon he may be the i dotter or the t crosser or just a cross dresser circa 66 saint
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9:36pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

LLLLLLLDDDLLLLLLLLLD


A massive turnaround in form to be fair.
LLLLLLLDDDLLLLLLLLLD A massive turnaround in form to be fair. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:37pm Tue 12 Feb 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Ben Reeves popped one in for Southend.
Ben Reeves popped one in for Southend. OSPREYSAINT
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9:38pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

circa 66 saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dotting i's and crossing t's is a very complex thing and is certainly not a laughing matter!
hey seed i see some saddo on the news has been collecting user names from the last 3 weeks and has posted them.
ANORAK or what?

do you reckon he may be the i dotter or the t crosser or just a cross dresser
Nah, just a kunt.

Bloody stonewall pen and the cheating ref didn't give it!
[quote][p][bold]circa 66 saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Dotting i's and crossing t's is a very complex thing and is certainly not a laughing matter![/p][/quote]hey seed i see some saddo on the news has been collecting user names from the last 3 weeks and has posted them. ANORAK or what? do you reckon he may be the i dotter or the t crosser or just a cross dresser[/p][/quote]Nah, just a kunt. Bloody stonewall pen and the cheating ref didn't give it! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:47pm Tue 12 Feb 13

st1halo says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
LLLLLLLDDDLLLLLLLLLD



A massive turnaround in form to be fair.
The world's media is going to be heading to Pompey tomorrow after tonights result!
Wonder if the open top bus will be brought out for a tour of the city? as they celebrate their non-loss in front of 50 screaming creditors.

STID
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: LLLLLLLDDDLLLLLLLLLD A massive turnaround in form to be fair.[/p][/quote]The world's media is going to be heading to Pompey tomorrow after tonights result! Wonder if the open top bus will be brought out for a tour of the city? as they celebrate their non-loss in front of 50 screaming creditors. STID st1halo
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9:51pm Tue 12 Feb 13

slugger says...

4 points from a possible 60 is that ?
4 points from a possible 60 is that ? slugger
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9:55pm Tue 12 Feb 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Eastleigh a better Hampshire team have beaten Salisbury 1 0 tonight.
Eastleigh a better Hampshire team have beaten Salisbury 1 0 tonight. OSPREYSAINT
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9:57pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

slugger wrote:
4 points from a possible 60 is that ?
Hartlepool must be amazingly crap :(
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: 4 points from a possible 60 is that ?[/p][/quote]Hartlepool must be amazingly crap :( Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:13pm Tue 12 Feb 13

saintkenny says...

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10:27pm Tue 12 Feb 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

circa 66 saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dotting i's and crossing t's is a very complex thing and is certainly not a laughing matter!
hey seed i see some saddo on the news has been collecting user names from the last 3 weeks and has posted them.
ANORAK or what?

do you reckon he may be the i dotter or the t crosser or just a cross dresser
I am a bit hacked off as I didn't make the list despite my sock puppet post. I don't think they believed me.
[quote][p][bold]circa 66 saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Dotting i's and crossing t's is a very complex thing and is certainly not a laughing matter![/p][/quote]hey seed i see some saddo on the news has been collecting user names from the last 3 weeks and has posted them. ANORAK or what? do you reckon he may be the i dotter or the t crosser or just a cross dresser[/p][/quote]I am a bit hacked off as I didn't make the list despite my sock puppet post. I don't think they believed me. OSPREYSAINT
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10:34pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
circa 66 saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dotting i's and crossing t's is a very complex thing and is certainly not a laughing matter!
hey seed i see some saddo on the news has been collecting user names from the last 3 weeks and has posted them.
ANORAK or what?

do you reckon he may be the i dotter or the t crosser or just a cross dresser
I am a bit hacked off as I didn't make the list despite my sock puppet post. I don't think they believed me.
Still time old son, still time!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]circa 66 saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Dotting i's and crossing t's is a very complex thing and is certainly not a laughing matter![/p][/quote]hey seed i see some saddo on the news has been collecting user names from the last 3 weeks and has posted them. ANORAK or what? do you reckon he may be the i dotter or the t crosser or just a cross dresser[/p][/quote]I am a bit hacked off as I didn't make the list despite my sock puppet post. I don't think they believed me.[/p][/quote]Still time old son, still time! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:47pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Folkestone Saint says...

circa 66 saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dotting i's and crossing t's is a very complex thing and is certainly not a laughing matter!
hey seed i see some saddo on the news has been collecting user names from the last 3 weeks and has posted them.
ANORAK or what?

do you reckon he may be the i dotter or the t crosser or just a cross dresser
He's not the I dotter he is the t osser
[quote][p][bold]circa 66 saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Dotting i's and crossing t's is a very complex thing and is certainly not a laughing matter![/p][/quote]hey seed i see some saddo on the news has been collecting user names from the last 3 weeks and has posted them. ANORAK or what? do you reckon he may be the i dotter or the t crosser or just a cross dresser[/p][/quote]He's not the I dotter he is the t osser Folkestone Saint
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3:24am Wed 13 Feb 13

SaintinCanada says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dotting i's and crossing t's is a very complex thing and is certainly not a laughing matter!
Another adjournmemt coming...zzz
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Dotting i's and crossing t's is a very complex thing and is certainly not a laughing matter![/p][/quote]Another adjournmemt coming...zzz SaintinCanada
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7:53am Wed 13 Feb 13

J7junctionseven says...

Does anyone know how many tickets we are likely to get allocated for Norwich away. I've been told about 1500 which is sh1te.”
Does anyone know how many tickets we are likely to get allocated for Norwich away. I've been told about 1500 which is sh1te.” J7junctionseven
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8:01am Wed 13 Feb 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
circa 66 saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dotting i's and crossing t's is a very complex thing and is certainly not a laughing matter!
hey seed i see some saddo on the news has been collecting user names from the last 3 weeks and has posted them.
ANORAK or what?

do you reckon he may be the i dotter or the t crosser or just a cross dresser
I am a bit hacked off as I didn't make the list despite my sock puppet post. I don't think they believed me.
Still time old son, still time!
At least we have plenty of it.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]circa 66 saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Dotting i's and crossing t's is a very complex thing and is certainly not a laughing matter![/p][/quote]hey seed i see some saddo on the news has been collecting user names from the last 3 weeks and has posted them. ANORAK or what? do you reckon he may be the i dotter or the t crosser or just a cross dresser[/p][/quote]I am a bit hacked off as I didn't make the list despite my sock puppet post. I don't think they believed me.[/p][/quote]Still time old son, still time![/p][/quote]At least we have plenty of it. OSPREYSAINT
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8:04am Wed 13 Feb 13

Clever Dick says...

Well I knew Hartlepool were bad,but I didn't know they were THAT bad!
Well I knew Hartlepool were bad,but I didn't know they were THAT bad! Clever Dick
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1:38pm Wed 13 Feb 13

El Santo says...

warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw!

Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck!
I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball.
With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them!
No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing!
I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country.
I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team.
Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes.
Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.
J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need...

..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present.
I agree with you... theoretically. But if you have a look at his stats in the last 4 games and his style of football... I think he is winning a spot in Pochie's heart. Lallana and Gaston are more skillful and, in my opinion, better football players, but they may not fit so well within the "new regime".
And Puncheon is doing really well.
Lallana will have to up his game (more pace, more pressing) even more in the near future if he wants to play. And he will. I think we haven't seen the best Lallana yet.
You know whilst I really like Lallana i have to say that even last season he did suffer from a touch too many syndrome....

... also reminiscent of the early Giggs his final ball more often than not let him/us down..

...also he has more nearly goals to his credit than any other player..

His game is about 3-5% from being otherworldly.. ergo I do not want him to be another Joe Cole...

MoPo will either make him or break him..the former would be utterly sensational for all concerned.
Now we agree both theoretically and practically. I think he has been too comfortable in the last years, being head and shoulders above everyone else. Agree on the break or make, although I am optimistic and think it will be "make". He reminds me of the younger Messi, great talent but never finishing what he started creating lots of chances for the rest of the team but missing his. Until he learned.
Together as one!
El Santo were are you in Spain?

Wife and I shall summer in Tarango (i think) about 100 klicks south of Barca..fantastic fishing for sea bass in the med..crazy but true..one of the few protected areas..stunning food scenary and relatively unspoilt..Catalan magic..
That sounds really good. I might actually visit the area next year, with a bit of luck. I am in Soton, actually...
aaahhh Bisto..one should never draw assumptions, or anything that they cannot visualise..!!

So are you going to Newk'astle..

Strassie and sons will be meeting me and mine..Lordy be..
Not so far off as you think. Unfortunaltely, can't make it to Nuke asshells. Good luck with all the family around!
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw! Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck![/p][/quote]I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball. With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them![/p][/quote]No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing![/p][/quote]I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country. I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team. Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes. Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.[/p][/quote]J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need... ..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present.[/p][/quote]I agree with you... theoretically. But if you have a look at his stats in the last 4 games and his style of football... I think he is winning a spot in Pochie's heart. Lallana and Gaston are more skillful and, in my opinion, better football players, but they may not fit so well within the "new regime". And Puncheon is doing really well. Lallana will have to up his game (more pace, more pressing) even more in the near future if he wants to play. And he will. I think we haven't seen the best Lallana yet.[/p][/quote]You know whilst I really like Lallana i have to say that even last season he did suffer from a touch too many syndrome.... ... also reminiscent of the early Giggs his final ball more often than not let him/us down.. ...also he has more nearly goals to his credit than any other player.. His game is about 3-5% from being otherworldly.. ergo I do not want him to be another Joe Cole... MoPo will either make him or break him..the former would be utterly sensational for all concerned.[/p][/quote]Now we agree both theoretically and practically. I think he has been too comfortable in the last years, being head and shoulders above everyone else. Agree on the break or make, although I am optimistic and think it will be "make". He reminds me of the younger Messi, great talent but never finishing what he started creating lots of chances for the rest of the team but missing his. Until he learned.[/p][/quote]Together as one![/p][/quote]El Santo were are you in Spain? Wife and I shall summer in Tarango (i think) about 100 klicks south of Barca..fantastic fishing for sea bass in the med..crazy but true..one of the few protected areas..stunning food scenary and relatively unspoilt..Catalan magic..[/p][/quote]That sounds really good. I might actually visit the area next year, with a bit of luck. I am in Soton, actually...[/p][/quote]aaahhh Bisto..one should never draw assumptions, or anything that they cannot visualise..!! So are you going to Newk'astle.. Strassie and sons will be meeting me and mine..Lordy be..[/p][/quote]Not so far off as you think. Unfortunaltely, can't make it to Nuke asshells. Good luck with all the family around! El Santo
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1:48pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

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2:06pm Wed 13 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

El Santo wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
El Santo wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw!

Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck!
I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball.
With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them!
No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing!
I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country.
I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team.
Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes.
Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.
J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need...

..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present.
I agree with you... theoretically. But if you have a look at his stats in the last 4 games and his style of football... I think he is winning a spot in Pochie's heart. Lallana and Gaston are more skillful and, in my opinion, better football players, but they may not fit so well within the "new regime".
And Puncheon is doing really well.
Lallana will have to up his game (more pace, more pressing) even more in the near future if he wants to play. And he will. I think we haven't seen the best Lallana yet.
You know whilst I really like Lallana i have to say that even last season he did suffer from a touch too many syndrome....

... also reminiscent of the early Giggs his final ball more often than not let him/us down..

...also he has more nearly goals to his credit than any other player..

His game is about 3-5% from being otherworldly.. ergo I do not want him to be another Joe Cole...

MoPo will either make him or break him..the former would be utterly sensational for all concerned.
Now we agree both theoretically and practically. I think he has been too comfortable in the last years, being head and shoulders above everyone else. Agree on the break or make, although I am optimistic and think it will be "make". He reminds me of the younger Messi, great talent but never finishing what he started creating lots of chances for the rest of the team but missing his. Until he learned.
Together as one!
El Santo were are you in Spain?

Wife and I shall summer in Tarango (i think) about 100 klicks south of Barca..fantastic fishing for sea bass in the med..crazy but true..one of the few protected areas..stunning food scenary and relatively unspoilt..Catalan magic..
That sounds really good. I might actually visit the area next year, with a bit of luck. I am in Soton, actually...
aaahhh Bisto..one should never draw assumptions, or anything that they cannot visualise..!!

So are you going to Newk'astle..

Strassie and sons will be meeting me and mine..Lordy be..
Not so far off as you think. Unfortunaltely, can't make it to Nuke asshells. Good luck with all the family around!
ta...
[quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: It's too early to draw definite conclusions about just how good a manager Poch is, but the early indications are promising. I'm glad too see that so many people have picked up on how the players now press the opposition, sth we really didn't do a few months ago. It is a great way to not only stifle the opposition but to stop them getting into any sort of rhythm. Plus it forces potential mistakes which we can then capitalise on. We are now creating our own luck, sth Nigel didn't have the players do. But If we are to employ it week in and week out the player's stamina will have to be top draw! Roberto Mancini can bang on about international matches having cost his team but the truth is we out hustled them and forced their hand, thereby creating our own luck![/p][/quote]I think the style of play suits some of the players better as well. Clearly Rodriguez, Mayuka, Lee and Ramirez were brought in with the idea of playing a style like this, as they can press quickly and aren't afraid to run with the ball. With Mancini, he obviously didn't realise we were missing half our first team against them![/p][/quote]No doubt theis style suits a lot of the players. Keep an eye JRod, if he's ever going to come good it will be in the system we're playing now. He's starting and he is being given the chance to use his greatest asset, his pace. Now he's got to step up and deliver, as well as work on his finishing![/p][/quote]I have also noticed how Jay-Rod is now contributing to our game. This pacy football exploits his attributes really well, and I think both Rickie and him understand each other much better. If they continue growing like this, they will be the best English attacking couple in the country. I can't believe that even Lallana has to sweat his way back into the team. Looking at the squads Pochie has picked, it is clear he rates a hard working midfield, a "trivote" (like Mourinho) fromed by Davis, Schneiderlin and Cork. I wouldn't wonder if he brought Chaplow into the team at some point. He is exactly the type of player he likes. Problem is, that only leaves 3 spots up front, 2 if we take Lambert's presence for granted. 2 spots for players like Rodriguez, Ramirez, Puncheon and Lallana. Tough choice.[/p][/quote]J-Rod is improving but a long way from the reliable 'other' finisher we need... ..I would take Lallana, Puncheon and Ramirez in that order before choosing him at present.[/p][/quote]I agree with you... theoretically. But if you have a look at his stats in the last 4 games and his style of football... I think he is winning a spot in Pochie's heart. Lallana and Gaston are more skillful and, in my opinion, better football players, but they may not fit so well within the "new regime". And Puncheon is doing really well. Lallana will have to up his game (more pace, more pressing) even more in the near future if he wants to play. And he will. I think we haven't seen the best Lallana yet.[/p][/quote]You know whilst I really like Lallana i have to say that even last season he did suffer from a touch too many syndrome.... ... also reminiscent of the early Giggs his final ball more often than not let him/us down.. ...also he has more nearly goals to his credit than any other player.. His game is about 3-5% from being otherworldly.. ergo I do not want him to be another Joe Cole... MoPo will either make him or break him..the former would be utterly sensational for all concerned.[/p][/quote]Now we agree both theoretically and practically. I think he has been too comfortable in the last years, being head and shoulders above everyone else. Agree on the break or make, although I am optimistic and think it will be "make". He reminds me of the younger Messi, great talent but never finishing what he started creating lots of chances for the rest of the team but missing his. Until he learned.[/p][/quote]Together as one![/p][/quote]El Santo were are you in Spain? Wife and I shall summer in Tarango (i think) about 100 klicks south of Barca..fantastic fishing for sea bass in the med..crazy but true..one of the few protected areas..stunning food scenary and relatively unspoilt..Catalan magic..[/p][/quote]That sounds really good. I might actually visit the area next year, with a bit of luck. I am in Soton, actually...[/p][/quote]aaahhh Bisto..one should never draw assumptions, or anything that they cannot visualise..!! So are you going to Newk'astle.. Strassie and sons will be meeting me and mine..Lordy be..[/p][/quote]Not so far off as you think. Unfortunaltely, can't make it to Nuke asshells. Good luck with all the family around![/p][/quote]ta... warrens 76
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3:03pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

The skunts have posponed their court hearing for a further week.

I give up.
The skunts have posponed their court hearing for a further week. I give up. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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3:09pm Wed 13 Feb 13

SO50 Saint says...

Will there ever come a time when it can not be postponed?
Will there ever come a time when it can not be postponed? SO50 Saint
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3:52pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Rising_Son says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The skunts have posponed their court hearing for a further week.

I give up.
Who actually got the postponement? Isn't the case between the administrator and Chanrai?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The skunts have posponed their court hearing for a further week. I give up.[/p][/quote]Who actually got the postponement? Isn't the case between the administrator and Chanrai? Rising_Son
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3:53pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Taoboy says...

st1halo wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
st1 i've read that a few times and I still don't get what he's getting at at all. In one breath he's saying a team that's beaten the current champs aren't good enough. Then having a go at a young CM who can't get in the first team but does well off the bench and thirdly he has a go at Guly haters and quotes his goals per game when he hasn't scored for over a year (not having a go at Guly) Also the fact that he says the ground is off Northam Road thought it was Britannia Road
Guess he just likes to feel superior for some strange reason.
To me it doesn't matter whether someone has supported the club for 5 mins, 5 yrs or 50 years, whether they go to games, listen to games or watch on the tv, whether they are a box ticket holder, season ticket holder or just occasional visitor. All Saints fans are just that and entitled to their opinion. I've been going since the late 60's as a boy, and even though I go to the games I still record them, come home and watch again as I can see more. My opinion isn't any more valid than someone who started going last week!
People like Strassie, Mush and warrens live abroad, how can they get to every game? Are they any less of a fan? They have as much passion as anyone else. I'm not usually rude about people unless they are skates but Gazzman is talking from his @rse!

STID
Well said. From a season ticket holder
For the first time this season, also supported saints from 67. Seen many teams. And this ones good.
COYS
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: st1 i've read that a few times and I still don't get what he's getting at at all. In one breath he's saying a team that's beaten the current champs aren't good enough. Then having a go at a young CM who can't get in the first team but does well off the bench and thirdly he has a go at Guly haters and quotes his goals per game when he hasn't scored for over a year (not having a go at Guly) Also the fact that he says the ground is off Northam Road thought it was Britannia Road[/p][/quote]Guess he just likes to feel superior for some strange reason. To me it doesn't matter whether someone has supported the club for 5 mins, 5 yrs or 50 years, whether they go to games, listen to games or watch on the tv, whether they are a box ticket holder, season ticket holder or just occasional visitor. All Saints fans are just that and entitled to their opinion. I've been going since the late 60's as a boy, and even though I go to the games I still record them, come home and watch again as I can see more. My opinion isn't any more valid than someone who started going last week! People like Strassie, Mush and warrens live abroad, how can they get to every game? Are they any less of a fan? They have as much passion as anyone else. I'm not usually rude about people unless they are skates but Gazzman is talking from his @rse! STID[/p][/quote]Well said. From a season ticket holder For the first time this season, also supported saints from 67. Seen many teams. And this ones good. COYS Taoboy
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5:04pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Beer Monster says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The skunts have posponed their court hearing for a further week.

I give up.
Who actually got the postponement? Isn't the case between the administrator and Chanrai?
Sounds like the PFA are considering Orville's bid...

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/21
444012
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The skunts have posponed their court hearing for a further week. I give up.[/p][/quote]Who actually got the postponement? Isn't the case between the administrator and Chanrai?[/p][/quote]Sounds like the PFA are considering Orville's bid... http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/21 444012 Beer Monster
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6:35pm Wed 13 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Beer Monster wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The skunts have posponed their court hearing for a further week.

I give up.
Who actually got the postponement? Isn't the case between the administrator and Chanrai?
Sounds like the PFA are considering Orville's bid...

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/21

444012
that is just quackers!
[quote][p][bold]Beer Monster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The skunts have posponed their court hearing for a further week. I give up.[/p][/quote]Who actually got the postponement? Isn't the case between the administrator and Chanrai?[/p][/quote]Sounds like the PFA are considering Orville's bid... http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/21 444012[/p][/quote]that is just quackers! warrens 76
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6:41pm Wed 13 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The skunts have posponed their court hearing for a further week.

I give up.
I believe it has been postponed by 5 Kunts...is this true?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The skunts have posponed their court hearing for a further week. I give up.[/p][/quote]I believe it has been postponed by 5 Kunts...is this true? warrens 76
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8:13am Thu 14 Feb 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The skunts have posponed their court hearing for a further week.

I give up.
Playing for time? Hoping to get a result in Fergie time?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The skunts have posponed their court hearing for a further week. I give up.[/p][/quote]Playing for time? Hoping to get a result in Fergie time? OSPREYSAINT
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