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Norwich 0 Saints 0
Updated 5:41pm Saturday 9th March 2013 in Sport
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- Artur Boruc saves penalty in added time from Grant Holt
- Saints dominated much of the game, but failed to score
- Mauricio Pochettino's side remain 16th
5:41pm
5:41pm
5:10pm
Saints earn a point and stay 16th in the table. They are now four points clear of the drop zone, although 18th-placed Wigan have a game in hand on them. Thanks for joining us today. We will have reaction for you on the website later.
4:54pm
Norwich 0 Saints 0
4:53pm
Norwich are controversially awarded a penalty in added time after Holt goes to ground in the corner of the area under Shaw's challenge. It looked soft, but justice is done as Boruc makes a wonderful save from Holt to palm it away.
4:52pm
SAINTS SUBSTITUTION (90 mins): Rodriguez off, Puncheon on.
4:49pm
88 mins: Fonte booked for a foul on Becchio.
4:41pm
81 mins: Johnson booked for a trip on Rodriguez.
4:39pm
NORWICH SUBSTITUTION (79 mins): Kamara off, Becchio on.
4:39pm
SAINTS SUBSTITUTION (79 mins): Lallana off, Ward-Prowse on.
4:35pm
CHANCE (75 mins): Holt puts Snodgrass through, he goes round Boruc, but Yoshida makes a wonderful last-second challenge to clear before the midfielder can tap into an empty net.
4:30pm
SAINTS SUBSTITUTION (70 mins): Ramirez off, Guly on.
4:28pm
CHANCE (68 mins): Lambert puts a free-kick from just outside the box into the wall, after Snodgrass had pulled Shaw back right on the edge of the area.
4:20pm
CHANCE (60 mins): Ramirez plays a nice pass to Rodriguez, who has space 18 yards from goal. He prods a quick shot forward that Bunn palms straight to Lambert on the edge of the area. The striker's left foot volley rises over the crossbar, however.
4:10pm
CHANCE (50 mins): Rodriguez gets to the byline and fires a low ball across the face of goal. Garrido clears it, but straight to Lallana 12 yards out. But, with the goal gaping, the skipper fires his left foot shot over the bar.
3:47pm
Norwich 0 Saints 0
3:47pm
44 mins: Lallana booked for arguing with Clattenburg after a handball had been awarded against him.
3:37pm
NORWICH SUBSTITUTION (34 mins): Pilkington forced off with an injury. Replaced by Wes Hoolahan.
3:36pm
CHANCE (33 mins): Shaw bursts down the left and fires in a shot that is beaten away by Bunn at the near post.
3:32pm
CHANCE (29 mins): Snodgrass fires in a well-struck free-kick from 25 yards. The movement on the ball gave Boruc a problem, and he nearly allowed it to slip past him, only to get enough on it to divert it clear.
3:31pm
CHANCE (28 mins): Lambert releases Ramirez down the inside left channel. He tries to chip the advancing Bunn, but the keeper sticks a hand up and is just able to reach the ball to deny the Saints player.
3:22pm
CHANCE (19 mins): Best effort of the game so far. Ramirez rolls a ball into Schneiderlin just inside the area. He, in turn, lays it back to Lallana on the edge of the box, but the captain's sweet right-foot shot is well tipped over by Norwich keeper Mark Bunn.
3:19pm
16 mins: Grant Holt booked after a foul on Morgan Schneiderlin.
3:11pm
CHANCE (8 mins): Saints work the ball across the field and find Maya Yoshida marauding forward from his right-back position. He lines up a shot from 20 yards, but leans back and puts it well over.
3:00pm
Referee Mark Clattenburg gets the match underway.
2:57pm
The teams are out here at a soaked Carrow Road, where the rain is still teeming down. Saints playing in red this afternoon. Kick-off just a few minutes away now. We will have updates for you throughout the match.
2:43pm
Finances weren’t the only bit of news emanating from St Mary’s this week. Club captain Kelvin Davis had his contract extended until 2016. It was a bit of a surprise announcement, given that the 36-year-old keeper has been consigned to the substitutes’ bench for much of the season and already had a deal that ran through to the summer of 2014. But he’s a top man, Kelvin, and few would begrudge him another couple of years that may allow him to achieve his wish of finishing his playing career at the club. Here’s what he had to say...
When I first came to this club, to say that I would have been here for this period of time is something that I would have dreamed about. For that dream to have materialised and for me to be feeling good is something I am really, really pleased with.
Kelvin Davis
2:29pm
Saints this week released interim financial results covering their first six months as a Premier League club (up to December 31, 2012). Finances might be boring, but football club finances are...well, they’re still boring...but they’re also important. There was plenty of good news for Saints too. Here’s a summary:
- The club made a profit of £900,000 before player trading for the first six months back in the top flight.
- Their revenue nearly trebled, from £11.6m to £33.1m.
- Wages have come down to 59% of turnover, compared to 102% in 2011/12.
- Markus Liebherr and his estate invested £38m since the 2009 takeover (£5m of that came in 2011/12).
- All of that has now been formally converted into equity, effectively removing the debt.
- A “low-interest” loan is funding the expansion of the training ground and investment in infrastructure. This stood at £3.8m at the end of the last financial year.
- The club paid a total of £5.3m in one-off bonuses to players and staff on promotion.
2:17pm
Saints manager Mauricio Pochettino has also been speaking to reporters. Here’s a little snippet of what he had to say...
We can't get really ahead of ourselves. We need to take every game as it comes. 'The game against Manchester City seems quite tough and difficult, but we did manage it quite well. Instead, games that could have been easier, like QPR, we have had problems in. At the end of the day, what is most important is that the team finds a regularity in terms of the mental aspect. In a tactical manner and a way of proposing football, the team is playing in a regular way over these last six games. We just need to find our regular way of playing in a collective and individual manner, which was perhaps missing against QPR.
Mauricio Pochettino
2:13pm
FORM GUIDE
Norwich (last six, league only): L D D D W L
Saints (last six, league only): D L D W L L
Norwich top scorer (league only): Grant Holt 5
Saints top scorer (league only): Rickie Lambert 12
2:10pm
Three changes for Saints today. Nathaniel Clyne drops to the bench with a slight knock, as does Jason Puncheon, while Danny Fox misses out completely through injury. In come Jos Hooiveld, Luke Shaw and Jay Rodriguez. Maya Yoshida is set to play at right back.
2:09pm
THE LINE-UPS
NORWICH: Bunn; R Martin, Bassong, Turner, Garrido; Johnson, Howson, Snodgrass, Pilkington; Kamara, Holt.
Subs: Camp; Whittaker, Hoolahan, Fox, E.Bennett, Becchio, R.Bennett.
SAINTS: Boruc; Yoshida, Fonte, Hooiveld, Shaw; Schneiderlin, Cork; Lallana, Ramírez, Rodriguez; Lambert.
Subs: K Davis, Clyne, Forren, Ward-Prowse, Guly, Chaplow, Puncheon.
Referee: Mark Clattenburg.
1:55pm
Norwich manager Chris Hughton has been speaking to the media ahead of this fixture, and you can pretend like you’re an East Anglia-based football reporter by pressing play on the below video and watching him speak in his press conference...
(Ignore the fact that the thumbnail seems to be of Hughton when he was Birmingham manager, ahead of a Europa League tie. It is the right video when you get to it.)
1:46pm
There’s been some GREAT matches between Norwich and Saints over the years, and while today’s will inevitably end up being a painfully dull affair now I have written that, here’s a reminder of perhaps the best of all: It’s Ken Monkou and Matt Le Tissier on Norwich 4 Saints 5.
1:38pm
NORWICH SQUAD NEWS: Norwich will again be without midfielder Alex Tettey because of a knee problem, while ex-Saint Andrew Surman is also sidelined long-term with a similar problem. On-loan Sporting Kansas City forward Kei Kamara is pressing for a place in the starting XI after some impressive displays as a substitute. England goalkeeper John Ruddy continues his rehabilitation from thigh surgery and is set for a return at the end of March.
1:36pm
SAINTS SQUAD NEWS: Saints manager Mauricio Pochettino revealed that Adam Lallana has been back in training after suffering a concussion in last weekend’s 2-1 home defeat to QPR. Danny Fox is a doubt with a leg injury, but Luke Shaw should be fit to return to the starting lineup anyway. Pochettino said there are a couple of other concerns, but would not reveal who. Vegard Forren, who is yet to feature since his January arrival from Molde, played for the under-21s earlier in the week and could earn a place in the squad.
1:35pm
1:34pm
Hello Saints fans, and welcome to the Daily Echo’s live blog covering this afternoon’s Premier League encounter between Norwich and Saints, at Carrow Road. As you and the rest of our lovely audience will no doubt already be aware, this is an important afternoon for both teams, as they look to cement their status in the top flight. There is a greater urgency surrounding Saints’ position, though, as they start the day just three points above the drop zone, compared to the rather comfortable eight-point cushion that the Canaries currently enjoy. After back-to-back defeats, a positive result would be a truly significant boost for Saints. The good news is they have enjoyed plenty of success against their opponents in the last few years, having not lost any of the previous six encounters between the teams. Stay with us for all the build-up, team news and match updates.
Comments(121)
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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1:44pm Sat 9 Mar 13
up saints
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1:44pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Sally Hamilton Original
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1:49pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Strasbourg Saint
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1:53pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Inconsiderate old bag.
Let's hope, like Everton-Wigan, by the time I get home the score is 0-3.
MGRA
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1:53pm Sat 9 Mar 13
1-3 is my prediction...
saintkenny
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2:01pm Sat 9 Mar 13
MGRA wrote:hope your right if we get this back 5 back will give us a chance borac clyne fonte yoshida shaw .we might have to be careful near the end of the .they have won a couple there with the last kick of the game .a strong finish essential today
for this game is wide open, so does MP persist with him squeezed game or will he change tack and try and pinch something.... Its games like these where managers earn their money, lets hope the players put in a shift too... settle for a dour 1-0 today, but 3-1 or
1-3 is my prediction...
saintkenny
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2:09pm Sat 9 Mar 13
saintkenny
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2:10pm Sat 9 Mar 13
saintkenny
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2:11pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Scarborosaint
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2:11pm Sat 9 Mar 13
saintkenny
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2:12pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Strasbourg Saint
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2:14pm Sat 9 Mar 13
saintkenny wrote:Interesting!
Southampton team: Boruc, Yoshida, Fonte, Hooiveld, Shaw, Schneiderlin, Cork, Ramírez, Lallana (c), Rodriguez, Lambert. #saintsfc
Lallana on the right?
Is Clyne carrying a knock or is there a game plan I can't see?
I see Fox makes it onto the Norwich bench, then :)
saintkenny
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2:16pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Strasbourg Saint wrote:good to see forren i liked what i saw monday .will give us a threat in the air set pieces
saintkenny wrote:Interesting!
Southampton team: Boruc, Yoshida, Fonte, Hooiveld, Shaw, Schneiderlin, Cork, Ramírez, Lallana (c), Rodriguez, Lambert. #saintsfc
Lallana on the right?
Is Clyne carrying a knock or is there a game plan I can't see?
I see Fox makes it onto the Norwich bench, then :)
El Santo
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2:27pm Sat 9 Mar 13
saintkenny wrote:Well, Pochie clearly decided to go for the more "artistic" 11. I just hope his lack of experience in the PL doesn't make him underrate Norwich. They are a tough nut to crack.
Strasbourg Saint wrote:good to see forren i liked what i saw monday .will give us a threat in the air set pieces
saintkenny wrote:Interesting!
Southampton team: Boruc, Yoshida, Fonte, Hooiveld, Shaw, Schneiderlin, Cork, Ramírez, Lallana (c), Rodriguez, Lambert. #saintsfc
Lallana on the right?
Is Clyne carrying a knock or is there a game plan I can't see?
I see Fox makes it onto the Norwich bench, then :)
We have to win this one, we need it more than them! 2-3
Little Hitler
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2:31pm Sat 9 Mar 13
warrens 76
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2:32pm Sat 9 Mar 13
El Santo wrote:In a welsh accent...'I'm not appy'...seriously if we stay up we will go places..if not that's four years to recover..messy business..
saintkenny wrote:Well, Pochie clearly decided to go for the more "artistic" 11. I just hope his lack of experience in the PL doesn't make him underrate Norwich. They are a tough nut to crack.
Strasbourg Saint wrote:good to see forren i liked what i saw monday .will give us a threat in the air set pieces
saintkenny wrote:Interesting!
Southampton team: Boruc, Yoshida, Fonte, Hooiveld, Shaw, Schneiderlin, Cork, Ramírez, Lallana (c), Rodriguez, Lambert. #saintsfc
Lallana on the right?
Is Clyne carrying a knock or is there a game plan I can't see?
I see Fox makes it onto the Norwich bench, then :)
We have to win this one, we need it more than them! 2-3
Defence are the most evident fault ABER, MAIS, PERO, BUT if we took our chances we would already be safe..
mack chinnon
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2:41pm Sat 9 Mar 13
COYR.
Come on Bury.
Today we will score from a corner.
Costa Baz
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2:41pm Sat 9 Mar 13
saintkenny wrote:Norwich are, I believe, the top scorers from headers, in the Premier League and also play quite a lot of long ball picking up the knockdowns.
not sure on maya at right back were see
Even Adkins commented about how we did a number on Clyne, when he was at Palace, by putting Lambert on him to win easy high balls.
I think Holt actually tends to position himself more against the left back, so we'll see how Shaw copes with that and hope he gets good support.
This line up makes sense to me.
warrens 76
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2:55pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Baddesley Bill
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3:02pm Sat 9 Mar 13
mack chinnon wrote:Got Jos to score at 14/1 anytime (although that doesn't include own goals) COYR
Sunny St Denys Checking in.
COYR.
Come on Bury.
Today we will score from a corner.
saintysaintsaint
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3:05pm Sat 9 Mar 13
mack chinnon
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3:06pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Baddesley Bill wrote:Fingers crossed for you.
mack chinnon wrote:Got Jos to score at 14/1 anytime (although that doesn't include own goals) COYR
Sunny St Denys Checking in.
COYR.
Come on Bury.
Today we will score from a corner.
petethephantom
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3:06pm Sat 9 Mar 13
makes me very worried with his defence and general play
saintysaintsaint
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3:25pm Sat 9 Mar 13
saintysaintsaint
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3:27pm Sat 9 Mar 13
petethephantom wrote:Yoshida has probably been our best defender this season, I don't get all the hate for him
why why oh why does he posist with using maya Yoshida
makes me very worried with his defence and general play
Tirau Dan
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3:29pm Sat 9 Mar 13
that breakaway shows keep it simple and get the shots in lads... rain and slippy conditions.. come on you saints... dominating is much better a couple of goals ahead :)
petethephantom
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3:30pm Sat 9 Mar 13
I will be **** off for getting up so early in morning if 4 the uptenith time his poor positionl play and general defence cost us.
OSPREYSAINT
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3:31pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Tirau Dan
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3:35pm Sat 9 Mar 13
saintysaintsaint wrote:He's a fine player.... works his butt off, tackles well, covers well, concentrates and gets up too. The coaches are there at training every day... they see reasons to pick him... I'll go with that.
petethephantom wrote:Yoshida has probably been our best defender this season, I don't get all the hate for him
why why oh why does he posist with using maya Yoshida
makes me very worried with his defence and general play
Support Saints!!
petethephantom
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3:37pm Sat 9 Mar 13
just pathetic
get him off
give him to pompy
saintysaintsaint
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3:40pm Sat 9 Mar 13
petethephantom wrote:Go back to bed and check the results in the morning then. No need to cry about your own choice.
well is 2.27am here in sydney
I will be **** off for getting up so early in morning if 4 the uptenith time his poor positionl play and general defence cost us.
OSPREYSAINT
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3:40pm Sat 9 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT
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3:45pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Little Hitler
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3:46pm Sat 9 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:It is a frustrating situation.
7 shots 3 on target against 3 shots 1 on target. We still are not converting enough of those chances, frustrating.
Still, we tend to score in every game which means you always have a good chance.
petethephantom
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3:46pm Sat 9 Mar 13
wont say another word on him
my feelings are known
Tirau Dan
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3:52pm Sat 9 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:shocker but at least he didn't give dobbin holt a pen.. so give him a nod. Adams yellow is pathetic...
Sounds like we are up against a duff Referee again, how unusual.
Saints always seem to create outside the box but have to finish better - been the same all year pass pass pass but bugger all shots and missed last touches.. oh for Terry Paine and Big Ron to show em how.
petethephantom
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3:56pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Tirau Dan wrote:i think the commentator said same ref as reverse fixture
OSPREYSAINT wrote:shocker but at least he didn't give dobbin holt a pen.. so give him a nod. Adams yellow is pathetic...
Sounds like we are up against a duff Referee again, how unusual.
Saints always seem to create outside the box but have to finish better - been the same all year pass pass pass but bugger all shots and missed last touches.. oh for Terry Paine and Big Ron to show em how.
and from memory he was non event then too
Tirau Dan
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4:00pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Rickie doing a bit today at both ends but I think we need him to bang a few goalward.
St Retford
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4:03pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Norwegian Saint
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4:10pm Sat 9 Mar 13
What worries me is Clattenburg... Always against Saints.
OSPREYSAINT
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4:13pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Tirau Dan
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4:16pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Norwegian Saint
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4:22pm Sat 9 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Agent Connelly requires a talking to after that.
DC for Skate. Can we have him back at least he knows where the net is.
Come on Saints... We really need it this week.
Clatter burg tells us in the 50th minute to take a free kick 5yards back, but allow Canaries to take a throw in 20 yards forward...?
Come on you Saints!!!
Tirau Dan
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4:22pm Sat 9 Mar 13
lousy weather
Their fans are rubbish... hark at our proper lot in fine voice.. must be rewarded today surely... COYR
OSPREYSAINT
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4:25pm Sat 9 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT
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4:26pm Sat 9 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT
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4:27pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Tirau Dan
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4:28pm Sat 9 Mar 13
great to watch ...
I'm getting squeaky..... cmon Saints
Norwegian Saint
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4:29pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Gastón off for .... Guly!
Come on Saints!!!
saintysaintsaint
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4:29pm Sat 9 Mar 13
ghk230473
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4:29pm Sat 9 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT
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4:33pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Tirau Dan
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4:34pm Sat 9 Mar 13
SHOTS OFF TARGET them 1 us 6
CORNERS them1 us 7
how many chances do we need?
15 mins to go.. COYR
Norwegian Saint
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4:36pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Norwegian Saint
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4:38pm Sat 9 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT
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4:40pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Tirau Dan
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4:40pm Sat 9 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:thats L2 innit
DC strikes again
Tirau Dan
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4:44pm Sat 9 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT
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4:46pm Sat 9 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT
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4:47pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Tirau Dan
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4:48pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Tirau Dan
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4:49pm Sat 9 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT
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4:50pm Sat 9 Mar 13
st bevois
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4:50pm Sat 9 Mar 13
!!!!!!!!
Baddesley Bill
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4:50pm Sat 9 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT
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4:51pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Tirau Dan
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4:51pm Sat 9 Mar 13
mack chinnon
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4:53pm Sat 9 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT
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4:53pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Baddesley Bill
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4:54pm Sat 9 Mar 13
I'll take the point...hard earned....but I seriously think the next training session should focus on where the opposing net is.
petethephantom
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4:54pm Sat 9 Mar 13
numbnut referee
team spirit in end huge.... 3 points a must next week
C O Y R
St Retford
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4:55pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Tirau Dan wrote:God that's good!
KING ARTUR PULLS THE SWORD FROM THE STONE
St Retford
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4:56pm Sat 9 Mar 13
SnapperSaint
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4:58pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Norwegian Saint
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4:58pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Clattenburg is always against Saints.
If that was a penalty so was the one against Luke up the other end.
A flicking disgrace!
Well done Boruc, top save!
Liverpool and Chelski up next, we need to win one of them... If not both!
JohnItaly
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5:00pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Meanwhile hats off to Boroc.
BracknellSaint
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5:03pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Should have put that to bed early on..
But in the End, thank you Boruc!
Loved how Guly came on and made a heavy touch( it was shocking) and the knockers were right on here.
Thing is, if you actually watched, he did very well after that, kept possession in tight areas, and did what he was asked.
Thought he did well in very hard conditions.
Another 2 points wasted, but a good away point..
OSPREYSAINT
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5:04pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Red n White
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5:04pm Sat 9 Mar 13
St Retford
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5:05pm Sat 9 Mar 13
JohnItaly wrote:This is a fair point. We're 95% there. Maybe we're saving up our luck in front of goal for the next two games. Let's hope so!
As I have said in previous posts what is really worrying me is Saints are playing well but just not winning. Once again we have dominated the shots on & off target but failed to score. Keep thinking one day Saints will thrash someone - let's hope it is next week!
Meanwhile hats off to Boroc.
DisplacedFan
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5:06pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Need another solid peformance next week. Weather did not help us.
Keep going lads!!
Strasbourg Saint
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5:07pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Some honest questions for anyone who watched the stream (because I didn't).
1. Possible pen or definately not?
2. Were we robbed by bad luck and Clut the clot? Or ...
3. Were we gulity of missing too many chances we should have taken?
OSPREYSAINT
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5:08pm Sat 9 Mar 13
JohnItaly wrote:I think the law of averages says that some of those chances are going to go in, hopefully against Scouse.
As I have said in previous posts what is really worrying me is Saints are playing well but just not winning. Once again we have dominated the shots on & off target but failed to score. Keep thinking one day Saints will thrash someone - let's hope it is next week!
Meanwhile hats off to Boroc.
St.Yorkie
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5:10pm Sat 9 Mar 13
I thought Norwich were poor and results elsewhere makes interesting reading of the table.
Just hope we step up to the mark at home in the next 2-weeks. We seem to raise our game at home to decent teams. Liverpool threat Suarez - Chelsea we owe them for the Cup game. 6-points would be a miracle, 4-would be great, and two would be good. I would be starting to get concerned if we register only 1 or 2!
Well done David Connerly - shame it's seeing them progress!
OSPREYSAINT
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5:11pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Tirau Dan
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5:12pm Sat 9 Mar 13
I love Poch.. my lip reading skills are pretty good.. he went out there and clearly said to the ref in English:
"Excuse me sir but you are a blind useless git"
ps Grant Holt is a fat pie eating git and Artur Boric is King of Wessex
OSPREYSAINT
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5:14pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Confucious
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5:25pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Tirau Dan
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5:28pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Confucious wrote:ps and extra sashimi for mr Yoshida who also made a couple of great stops today.. (although one really dumb gaff) he was prob motm for me.
Freedom of the city please Mr Mayor for Artur Boruc. He prevented many thousands of citizens from being very seriously p!ssed off tonight.
lambo83
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5:29pm Sat 9 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT
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5:38pm Sat 9 Mar 13
lambo83 wrote:Well it keeps it interesting, no mid table mediocrity for us this time.
We're right back in it now when we should really be safe had it not been for our inability to finish games off, this is of concern...
BracknellSaint
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5:40pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Strasbourg Saint wrote:never pen, described rightly as embarrassing on Soccer Saturday.
Not been in long, just able to folow the thread via Wifi here or there. Sounds like we mullered them bar the goals.
Some honest questions for anyone who watched the stream (because I didn't).
1. Possible pen or definately not?
2. Were we robbed by bad luck and Clut the clot? Or ...
3. Were we gulity of missing too many chances we should have taken?
We weren't robbed though. Our poor finishing again is what cost us.as it has in all the games so far under MP, but also generally over the whole season.
We also gave a few dangerous
opportunities to Norwich, so shouldn't be too gutted with a point.
Need to get some more luck in front of goal, but to be fair, our finishing needs to be greatly improved..
BracknellSaint
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5:40pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Strasbourg Saint wrote:never pen, described rightly as embarrassing on Soccer Saturday.
Not been in long, just able to folow the thread via Wifi here or there. Sounds like we mullered them bar the goals.
Some honest questions for anyone who watched the stream (because I didn't).
1. Possible pen or definately not?
2. Were we robbed by bad luck and Clut the clot? Or ...
3. Were we gulity of missing too many chances we should have taken?
We weren't robbed though. Our poor finishing again is what cost us.as it has in all the games so far under MP, but also generally over the whole season.
We also gave a few dangerous
opportunities to Norwich, so shouldn't be too gutted with a point.
Need to get some more luck in front of goal, but to be fair, our finishing needs to be greatly improved..
warrens 76
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5:48pm Sat 9 Mar 13
lambo83 wrote:As BbB and I have said...if we could finish..
We're right back in it now when we should really be safe had it not been for our inability to finish games off, this is of concern...
Lallana , talented..yes but finsished article NO!
warrens 76
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5:52pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Strasbourg Saint wrote:1) pen
Not been in long, just able to folow the thread via Wifi here or there. Sounds like we mullered them bar the goals.
Some honest questions for anyone who watched the stream (because I didn't).
1. Possible pen or definately not?
2. Were we robbed by bad luck and Clut the clot? Or ...
3. Were we gulity of missing too many chances we should have taken?
2) finishing as usual
3) see above.
Could we find a RVP or that git who plays for Swans..we would be top 8 that is how it works..
bluehants
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5:53pm Sat 9 Mar 13
:-(
dadofmy3sons
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6:03pm Sat 9 Mar 13
I have had a good feeling about Saints for some time now.
I do not see us getting relegated but it will be a bit hit and miss.
Saints never let us have it easy, easy wouldn't be half as much fun.
Strasbourg Saint
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6:14pm Sat 9 Mar 13
BracknellSaint wrote:Thanks Bracknell (and Warrens). Much appreciated.
Strasbourg Saint wrote:never pen, described rightly as embarrassing on Soccer Saturday.
Not been in long, just able to folow the thread via Wifi here or there. Sounds like we mullered them bar the goals.
Some honest questions for anyone who watched the stream (because I didn't).
1. Possible pen or definately not?
2. Were we robbed by bad luck and Clut the clot? Or ...
3. Were we gulity of missing too many chances we should have taken?
We weren't robbed though. Our poor finishing again is what cost us.as it has in all the games so far under MP, but also generally over the whole season.
We also gave a few dangerous
opportunities to Norwich, so shouldn't be too gutted with a point.
Need to get some more luck in front of goal, but to be fair, our finishing needs to be greatly improved..
Now off out to raise a glass to Artur.
saintkenny
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6:42pm Sat 9 Mar 13
bluehants wrote:king borac holt is no lambert 31 pens on the trot
Holt You Muppet!
:-(
abbiscuits
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7:03pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Clemster
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7:06pm Sat 9 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:You were at the game were you Osprey?
Sounds like we are up against a duff Referee again, how unusual.
swesaint
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7:31pm Sat 9 Mar 13
abbiscuits wrote:Wow, a rare clean sheet and you have a dig at the defence, incredible. There is just no pleasing some
Dissapointed today, forren should have played instead of hoover and clyne for yoshida, also, mayuka not on bench and guly is! i think mayuka has great potential and his pace would have cuased the norwich defence even more problems.
swesaint
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7:36pm Sat 9 Mar 13
abbiscuits wrote:Not a lot of mention about the lallana miss yet. Considering the stick our defenders get for a mistake or own goal. The miss today is just as bad as any own goal. I love the lad but that has to be a goal.
Dissapointed today, forren should have played instead of hoover and clyne for yoshida, also, mayuka not on bench and guly is! i think mayuka has great potential and his pace would have cuased the norwich defence even more problems.
OSPREYSAINT
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7:50pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Clemster wrote:I wish, no I was listening to Radio Solent, I know they are biased but that's the best I could do, and base my opinion, (which is all that it is), on what they said. Might change my mind with hindsight and replays.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:You were at the game were you Osprey?
Sounds like we are up against a duff Referee again, how unusual.
OSPREYSAINT
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7:52pm Sat 9 Mar 13
bluehants wrote:Holt was dope tested after the game, it was positive, he is a dope.
Holt You Muppet!
:-(
OSPREYSAINT
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7:54pm Sat 9 Mar 13
dadofmy3sons wrote:He is on 49 I believe, I hope he isn't trying too hard, he needs to relax and be more casual.
Adam needs one goal to kick start the avalanche.
I have had a good feeling about Saints for some time now.
I do not see us getting relegated but it will be a bit hit and miss.
Saints never let us have it easy, easy wouldn't be half as much fun.
OSPREYSAINT
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8:06pm Sat 9 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:The clue was in the statement by the way, I said Sounds like! Look at my 5-14 pm post. However, my niece and two nephews were at the game and had texted several messages including a critical one about the Referees performance, so my comment was not without evidence. Apparently they were stuck in the Coach in the Coach Park as one coach had broken down and traffic was gridlocked after a four car pile up on the road out. Snowing heavily and anticipating a long slow journey home. Got to give the travelling support some credit, they were great today.
Clemster wrote:I wish, no I was listening to Radio Solent, I know they are biased but that's the best I could do, and base my opinion, (which is all that it is), on what they said. Might change my mind with hindsight and replays.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:You were at the game were you Osprey?
Sounds like we are up against a duff Referee again, how unusual.
bigfella777
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8:10pm Sat 9 Mar 13
batesieboy
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8:43pm Sat 9 Mar 13
bluehants wrote:He cheated mate. Badly. Honestly, justice was done.
Holt You Muppet!
:-(
Velleity
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9:34pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Velleity
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9:38pm Sat 9 Mar 13
abbiscuits wrote:You know what? Adkins was slated for choosing to play Guly. Now MP is being slated for it.
Dissapointed today, forren should have played instead of hoover and clyne for yoshida, also, mayuka not on bench and guly is! i think mayuka has great potential and his pace would have cuased the norwich defence even more problems.
Has it occurred to ANY of you that two managers might be right and you might be wrong?
Do you think they both selected him just to annoy you, or because they thought he might help us to win?
All the Guly slaters might want to pass that past a brain cell or two before going on the attack.
OSPREYSAINT
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9:46pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Clemster wrote:Why did you ask?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:You were at the game were you Osprey?
Sounds like we are up against a duff Referee again, how unusual.
deepheat
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10:11pm Sat 9 Mar 13
37 points should see us safe.
Lets face it this is much better than the boring title race.
Strasbourg Saint
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10:21pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Velleity wrote:Spot on, Velleity.
abbiscuits wrote:You know what? Adkins was slated for choosing to play Guly. Now MP is being slated for it.
Dissapointed today, forren should have played instead of hoover and clyne for yoshida, also, mayuka not on bench and guly is! i think mayuka has great potential and his pace would have cuased the norwich defence even more problems.
Has it occurred to ANY of you that two managers might be right and you might be wrong?
Do you think they both selected him just to annoy you, or because they thought he might help us to win?
All the Guly slaters might want to pass that past a brain cell or two before going on the attack.
It seems to me (without, I might add, having seen or heard any of the match in any way what so ever) that, given Adam's miss when apparently he should have scored, Poch's biggest mistake today was sleecting Adam ahead of Guly :0) (cue the indignation!)
As for the defence, it wouldn't have been my choice but it gained a rare shut out, so well done all 5 of them - and Cork and Spiderman.
Come on Abbiscuits, get some perspective, few of us have seen Mayuka and, those who have, haven't raved about him. I hope he someday becomes a central part of our team but right now it seems he's well short of challenging for a starting position.
Bermondsey boy
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10:46pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Velleity wrote:Couldn't agree more. But the idiots on here will drive him from the club. After all, they no more than Nigel and pooch.
abbiscuits wrote:You know what? Adkins was slated for choosing to play Guly. Now MP is being slated for it.
Dissapointed today, forren should have played instead of hoover and clyne for yoshida, also, mayuka not on bench and guly is! i think mayuka has great potential and his pace would have cuased the norwich defence even more problems.
Has it occurred to ANY of you that two managers might be right and you might be wrong?
Do you think they both selected him just to annoy you, or because they thought he might help us to win?
All the Guly slaters might want to pass that past a brain cell or two before going on the attack.
MGRA
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11:21pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Guly is a great link player.... but he is not capable in my opinion of directly threatening the goal often or at all in the Prem. That and his lazy style means those who know nothing about football will generally slate him. I happen to think he is a good player, but not with our current players and set-up. There were times last season when his use in the squad seemed a bit random and he was either superb or dire.... But there were times when he showed what he could do....
Velleity wrote:Spot on, Velleity.
abbiscuits wrote:You know what? Adkins was slated for choosing to play Guly. Now MP is being slated for it.
Dissapointed today, forren should have played instead of hoover and clyne for yoshida, also, mayuka not on bench and guly is! i think mayuka has great potential and his pace would have cuased the norwich defence even more problems.
Has it occurred to ANY of you that two managers might be right and you might be wrong?
Do you think they both selected him just to annoy you, or because they thought he might help us to win?
All the Guly slaters might want to pass that past a brain cell or two before going on the attack.
It seems to me (without, I might add, having seen or heard any of the match in any way what so ever) that, given Adam's miss when apparently he should have scored, Poch's biggest mistake today was sleecting Adam ahead of Guly :0) (cue the indignation!)
As for the defence, it wouldn't have been my choice but it gained a rare shut out, so well done all 5 of them - and Cork and Spiderman.
Come on Abbiscuits, get some perspective, few of us have seen Mayuka and, those who have, haven't raved about him. I hope he someday becomes a central part of our team but right now it seems he's well short of challenging for a starting position.
Strasbourg Saint
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11:34pm Sat 9 Mar 13
MGRA wrote:Being honest, if it was only about choosing a 'best' 11 (not accounting for tactics, opposition, form, injuries etc.), given the current squad, Guly wouldn't make my first team, he'd be on the bench. Behind Rickie, I'd play Jayrod on the left, Punch on the right and Adam down the middle.
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Guly is a great link player.... but he is not capable in my opinion of directly threatening the goal often or at all in the Prem. That and his lazy style means those who know nothing about football will generally slate him. I happen to think he is a good player, but not with our current players and set-up. There were times last season when his use in the squad seemed a bit random and he was either superb or dire.... But there were times when he showed what he could do....
Velleity wrote:Spot on, Velleity.
abbiscuits wrote:You know what? Adkins was slated for choosing to play Guly. Now MP is being slated for it.
Dissapointed today, forren should have played instead of hoover and clyne for yoshida, also, mayuka not on bench and guly is! i think mayuka has great potential and his pace would have cuased the norwich defence even more problems.
Has it occurred to ANY of you that two managers might be right and you might be wrong?
Do you think they both selected him just to annoy you, or because they thought he might help us to win?
All the Guly slaters might want to pass that past a brain cell or two before going on the attack.
It seems to me (without, I might add, having seen or heard any of the match in any way what so ever) that, given Adam's miss when apparently he should have scored, Poch's biggest mistake today was sleecting Adam ahead of Guly :0) (cue the indignation!)
As for the defence, it wouldn't have been my choice but it gained a rare shut out, so well done all 5 of them - and Cork and Spiderman.
Come on Abbiscuits, get some perspective, few of us have seen Mayuka and, those who have, haven't raved about him. I hope he someday becomes a central part of our team but right now it seems he's well short of challenging for a starting position.
Assuming we stay up and strengthen, this might be Guly's last season in the 25 but I'll always be grateful to him for his contribution to our form in the early half of last season; and while he is here, he'll always have my support.
Just caught MotD and now feel happy with a point in difficult circumstances. Never a pen, but the Shaw shirt tug in the first half was. That said, didn't someone mention that we should have had one, too? If so, how come it wasn't in the MotD highlights?
I hope all the fans got home okay. Fantastic away supporters - the best in the world. Time for bed here. Night all.
Stroppy_gramps
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9:47am Sun 10 Mar 13
Strasbourg Saint wrote:apparently there was a penalty that should have gone Southampton's way.
MGRA wrote:Being honest, if it was only about choosing a 'best' 11 (not accounting for tactics, opposition, form, injuries etc.), given the current squad, Guly wouldn't make my first team, he'd be on the bench. Behind Rickie, I'd play Jayrod on the left, Punch on the right and Adam down the middle.
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Guly is a great link player.... but he is not capable in my opinion of directly threatening the goal often or at all in the Prem. That and his lazy style means those who know nothing about football will generally slate him. I happen to think he is a good player, but not with our current players and set-up. There were times last season when his use in the squad seemed a bit random and he was either superb or dire.... But there were times when he showed what he could do....
Velleity wrote:Spot on, Velleity.
abbiscuits wrote:You know what? Adkins was slated for choosing to play Guly. Now MP is being slated for it.
Dissapointed today, forren should have played instead of hoover and clyne for yoshida, also, mayuka not on bench and guly is! i think mayuka has great potential and his pace would have cuased the norwich defence even more problems.
Has it occurred to ANY of you that two managers might be right and you might be wrong?
Do you think they both selected him just to annoy you, or because they thought he might help us to win?
All the Guly slaters might want to pass that past a brain cell or two before going on the attack.
It seems to me (without, I might add, having seen or heard any of the match in any way what so ever) that, given Adam's miss when apparently he should have scored, Poch's biggest mistake today was sleecting Adam ahead of Guly :0) (cue the indignation!)
As for the defence, it wouldn't have been my choice but it gained a rare shut out, so well done all 5 of them - and Cork and Spiderman.
Come on Abbiscuits, get some perspective, few of us have seen Mayuka and, those who have, haven't raved about him. I hope he someday becomes a central part of our team but right now it seems he's well short of challenging for a starting position.
Assuming we stay up and strengthen, this might be Guly's last season in the 25 but I'll always be grateful to him for his contribution to our form in the early half of last season; and while he is here, he'll always have my support.
Just caught MotD and now feel happy with a point in difficult circumstances. Never a pen, but the Shaw shirt tug in the first half was. That said, didn't someone mention that we should have had one, too? If so, how come it wasn't in the MotD highlights?
I hope all the fans got home okay. Fantastic away supporters - the best in the world. Time for bed here. Night all.
Tbh I'm getting a bit sick and tired with some of the bullsh*t decisions that have gone against Saints this season and the ones where we should have definitely got a penalty or a free kick. AND the players who foul, get booked and then continue to foul but don't get sent off when playing against us.
However We're still in the Premier League, we can still avoid the drop. So I mustn't complain too loudly, lest I be compared to a Skate
Strasbourg Saint
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10:53am Sun 10 Mar 13
Stroppy_gramps wrote:I second that emotion, Stroppy-Gramps; nicely put.
Strasbourg Saint wrote:apparently there was a penalty that should have gone Southampton's way.
MGRA wrote:Being honest, if it was only about choosing a 'best' 11 (not accounting for tactics, opposition, form, injuries etc.), given the current squad, Guly wouldn't make my first team, he'd be on the bench. Behind Rickie, I'd play Jayrod on the left, Punch on the right and Adam down the middle.
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Guly is a great link player.... but he is not capable in my opinion of directly threatening the goal often or at all in the Prem. That and his lazy style means those who know nothing about football will generally slate him. I happen to think he is a good player, but not with our current players and set-up. There were times last season when his use in the squad seemed a bit random and he was either superb or dire.... But there were times when he showed what he could do....
Velleity wrote:Spot on, Velleity.
abbiscuits wrote:You know what? Adkins was slated for choosing to play Guly. Now MP is being slated for it.
Dissapointed today, forren should have played instead of hoover and clyne for yoshida, also, mayuka not on bench and guly is! i think mayuka has great potential and his pace would have cuased the norwich defence even more problems.
Has it occurred to ANY of you that two managers might be right and you might be wrong?
Do you think they both selected him just to annoy you, or because they thought he might help us to win?
All the Guly slaters might want to pass that past a brain cell or two before going on the attack.
It seems to me (without, I might add, having seen or heard any of the match in any way what so ever) that, given Adam's miss when apparently he should have scored, Poch's biggest mistake today was sleecting Adam ahead of Guly :0) (cue the indignation!)
As for the defence, it wouldn't have been my choice but it gained a rare shut out, so well done all 5 of them - and Cork and Spiderman.
Come on Abbiscuits, get some perspective, few of us have seen Mayuka and, those who have, haven't raved about him. I hope he someday becomes a central part of our team but right now it seems he's well short of challenging for a starting position.
Assuming we stay up and strengthen, this might be Guly's last season in the 25 but I'll always be grateful to him for his contribution to our form in the early half of last season; and while he is here, he'll always have my support.
Just caught MotD and now feel happy with a point in difficult circumstances. Never a pen, but the Shaw shirt tug in the first half was. That said, didn't someone mention that we should have had one, too? If so, how come it wasn't in the MotD highlights?
I hope all the fans got home okay. Fantastic away supporters - the best in the world. Time for bed here. Night all.
Tbh I'm getting a bit sick and tired with some of the bullsh*t decisions that have gone against Saints this season and the ones where we should have definitely got a penalty or a free kick. AND the players who foul, get booked and then continue to foul but don't get sent off when playing against us.
However We're still in the Premier League, we can still avoid the drop. So I mustn't complain too loudly, lest I be compared to a Skate
sasmike
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1:00pm Sun 10 Mar 13
saints 40
wigan 34
a villa 34
reading 30
qpr 29
SFCOLDBOY says...
1:40pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Work harder that them and the result will be ours.
No half measures like last week, Norwich are not going to give us the points we must take them.
COYR