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Director of communications, Julius Duncan, leaves Southampton FC
2:35pm Tuesday 12th March 2013 in Sport
Julius Duncan
SAINTS' director of communications has left the club after only two months in the job, it has been reported today.
Julius Duncan joined Southampton FC in January this year, in the role which was newly created at the time.
He joined from local PR firm Headstream but according to reports in a national newspaper today, he has resigned because he was "unsuited to the post".
In December, Saints revealed Mr Duncan was joining the club the following month.
At the time, a statement from chairman Nicola Cortese, said: "The appointment of a senior Director of Communications is an essential part of the ambitious plans we have for the club and reflects our commitment to excellent communication with all stakeholders.
"Julius brings a range of experience and skills that will help keep Southampton at the forefront of communications in the years ahead."
The Daily Echo tried to contact Mr Duncan for comment, but had not received a reply at the time of publication.
Comments(62)
St Retford
says...
3:29pm Tue 12 Mar 13
Well I don't know and I suspect no one else does, but I would wager £5 this isn't going to stop *certain* people from making hysterical claims about what this says about the state of the club.
And go...
And go...
damoose
says...
3:49pm Tue 12 Mar 13
Since the New Year classic case of Chairman losing his mind,now the footballing Gods are against us
TEBOURBA
says...
3:53pm Tue 12 Mar 13
As I've said many times what goes around comes around.
Cortese said that Mr Duncan would keep Southampton FC in the forefront of communications for years ahead -- and he's left after 2 months!
Could it possibly be that Mr Duncan couldn't stand the shyster's style of management?
This includes law suits against the Club, from a humble contractor and a Saints' legend; sacking the best manager Saints have ever had and rather than settling his contract honourably, keeping him on gardening leave, hoping against hope Cortese won't have to cough up his full entitlement; appointing a manager who can't speak English and whose record over his first 7 games is far worse than the man he replaced; Cortese didn't have the guts have the guts to face the media when he sacked Nigel.
Yes Mr Cortese you're beginning to realise what goes around comes around.
How anyone can support the actons of his man is beyond me, he is dragging the good name of Southampton FC through the mud, for God's sake go!!!
Cortese said that Mr Duncan would keep Southampton FC in the forefront of communications for years ahead -- and he's left after 2 months!
Could it possibly be that Mr Duncan couldn't stand the shyster's style of management?
This includes law suits against the Club, from a humble contractor and a Saints' legend; sacking the best manager Saints have ever had and rather than settling his contract honourably, keeping him on gardening leave, hoping against hope Cortese won't have to cough up his full entitlement; appointing a manager who can't speak English and whose record over his first 7 games is far worse than the man he replaced; Cortese didn't have the guts have the guts to face the media when he sacked Nigel.
Yes Mr Cortese you're beginning to realise what goes around comes around.
How anyone can support the actons of his man is beyond me, he is dragging the good name of Southampton FC through the mud, for God's sake go!!!
george chivers
says...
4:22pm Tue 12 Mar 13
It will be interesting to see how effective the club are in communicating the departure of the Communications Director. Clearly he won't do it himself. Indeed perhaps he wasn't good enough to do it himself.
We shall see.
Perhaps he will be tending the same garden as Nigel. A sort of Saints community service for ex-executives. An ASBO where the word Service is substituted for the word Saints.
We shall never know, there is no one to tell us.
We shall see.
Perhaps he will be tending the same garden as Nigel. A sort of Saints community service for ex-executives. An ASBO where the word Service is substituted for the word Saints.
We shall never know, there is no one to tell us.
CB FRY LIVES
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4:26pm Tue 12 Mar 13
How long will it be until another january appointment at st marys decides that he is not suitable for the job and leaves.
george chivers
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4:28pm Tue 12 Mar 13
Sorry I should have said Social not Service. That's me out of the running for the Director of Communications Job.
****, I could have done with an extra £100,000 a year on top of my pension, it would have paid the heating bill.
****, I could have done with an extra £100,000 a year on top of my pension, it would have paid the heating bill.
billythesaint
says...
4:46pm Tue 12 Mar 13
TEBOURBA wrote:Can't understand your anti-Cortese drivel when you compare our club now to what we had before Cortese and Liebherr took over. And what's this "best manager ever" nonsense? My aunt could have got us out of league one with the team we had. Adkins has gone, we've been doing pretty much the same without him, but slightly sharper in defence and things are looking very rosy for the future. Get over yourself.
As I've said many times what goes around comes around.
Cortese said that Mr Duncan would keep Southampton FC in the forefront of communications for years ahead -- and he's left after 2 months!
Could it possibly be that Mr Duncan couldn't stand the shyster's style of management?
This includes law suits against the Club, from a humble contractor and a Saints' legend; sacking the best manager Saints have ever had and rather than settling his contract honourably, keeping him on gardening leave, hoping against hope Cortese won't have to cough up his full entitlement; appointing a manager who can't speak English and whose record over his first 7 games is far worse than the man he replaced; Cortese didn't have the guts have the guts to face the media when he sacked Nigel.
Yes Mr Cortese you're beginning to realise what goes around comes around.
How anyone can support the actons of his man is beyond me, he is dragging the good name of Southampton FC through the mud, for God's sake go!!!
St Retford
says...
4:51pm Tue 12 Mar 13
TEBOURBA wrote:Oh, look!
As I've said many times what goes around comes around.
Cortese said that Mr Duncan would keep Southampton FC in the forefront of communications for years ahead -- and he's left after 2 months!
Could it possibly be that Mr Duncan couldn't stand the shyster's style of management?
This includes law suits against the Club, from a humble contractor and a Saints' legend; sacking the best manager Saints have ever had and rather than settling his contract honourably, keeping him on gardening leave, hoping against hope Cortese won't have to cough up his full entitlement; appointing a manager who can't speak English and whose record over his first 7 games is far worse than the man he replaced; Cortese didn't have the guts have the guts to face the media when he sacked Nigel.
Yes Mr Cortese you're beginning to realise what goes around comes around.
How anyone can support the actons of his man is beyond me, he is dragging the good name of Southampton FC through the mud, for God's sake go!!!
OSPREYSAINT
says...
4:54pm Tue 12 Mar 13
TEBOURBA wrote:I could have written that myself and posted it as The Borer, so predictable. So so wrong too.
As I've said many times what goes around comes around.
Cortese said that Mr Duncan would keep Southampton FC in the forefront of communications for years ahead -- and he's left after 2 months!
Could it possibly be that Mr Duncan couldn't stand the shyster's style of management?
This includes law suits against the Club, from a humble contractor and a Saints' legend; sacking the best manager Saints have ever had and rather than settling his contract honourably, keeping him on gardening leave, hoping against hope Cortese won't have to cough up his full entitlement; appointing a manager who can't speak English and whose record over his first 7 games is far worse than the man he replaced; Cortese didn't have the guts have the guts to face the media when he sacked Nigel.
Yes Mr Cortese you're beginning to realise what goes around comes around.
How anyone can support the actons of his man is beyond me, he is dragging the good name of Southampton FC through the mud, for God's sake go!!!
billythesaint
says...
4:58pm Tue 12 Mar 13
Quick stat for you Tebourba as I need to constantly provide them to back myself up on here:
Avg goals conceded in PL with your lord and master at the helm: 1.82
With Poch: 1.57
I've got more but they are boring and it's 5pm: home time.
Avg goals conceded in PL with your lord and master at the helm: 1.82
With Poch: 1.57
I've got more but they are boring and it's 5pm: home time.
Taoboy
says...
5:04pm Tue 12 Mar 13
Not altogether suprised as PR has been woeful. I fear this chap met his Waterloo attempting to follow an impossible brief.
a t*rd is a t*rd no matter how hard you polish it, unlike the squad who are better likened to a rough diamond, needing a little more grinding to reveal shining facets and unique internal structure. Come on Saints.
Its only Liverpool on Saturday, your expected to lose, which proves you have nothing to lose and everything to gain by putting them through a traumatic experience at St Mary's.
The crowd need to get right behind the team, loudly.
a t*rd is a t*rd no matter how hard you polish it, unlike the squad who are better likened to a rough diamond, needing a little more grinding to reveal shining facets and unique internal structure. Come on Saints.
Its only Liverpool on Saturday, your expected to lose, which proves you have nothing to lose and everything to gain by putting them through a traumatic experience at St Mary's.
The crowd need to get right behind the team, loudly.
st1halo
says...
5:21pm Tue 12 Mar 13
St Retford wrote:Best post today but you could have bet your house on it Strets, absolutey no risk of losing! Lol
Well I don't know and I suspect no one else does, but I would wager £5 this isn't going to stop *certain* people from making hysterical claims about what this says about the state of the club.
And go...
Keep 'em coming .......
OSPREYSAINT
says...
5:30pm Tue 12 Mar 13
Give the job to Nigel as he is being paid to do nothing, couldn't do a worse job than this guy it seems.
Strasbourg Saint
says...
6:06pm Tue 12 Mar 13
Well, regarding Tebourba, Retford called it right, so he gets the job of Director of the Bleeding Obvious. :)
As for the next Director of Communications, let's hope s/he is able to turn that particular area of the club around. We all know it's way below the level being achieved elsewhere at the club.
As for the next Director of Communications, let's hope s/he is able to turn that particular area of the club around. We all know it's way below the level being achieved elsewhere at the club.
Five Trophies Between Us
says...
6:31pm Tue 12 Mar 13
from julius d - Et tu Brute?
or
Et tu Corte?
or
Et tu Corte?
Them were glory days
says...
6:34pm Tue 12 Mar 13
Blimey - shades of George Orwell's 'Director of Misinformation...'
Velleity
says...
7:10pm Tue 12 Mar 13
TEBOURBA wrote:You said of the "best manager Saints have ever had" that:
As I've said many times what goes around comes around.
Cortese said that Mr Duncan would keep Southampton FC in the forefront of communications for years ahead -- and he's left after 2 months!
Could it possibly be that Mr Duncan couldn't stand the shyster's style of management?
This includes law suits against the Club, from a humble contractor and a Saints' legend; sacking the best manager Saints have ever had and rather than settling his contract honourably, keeping him on gardening leave, hoping against hope Cortese won't have to cough up his full entitlement; appointing a manager who can't speak English and whose record over his first 7 games is far worse than the man he replaced; Cortese didn't have the guts have the guts to face the media when he sacked Nigel.
Yes Mr Cortese you're beginning to realise what goes around comes around.
How anyone can support the actons of his man is beyond me, he is dragging the good name of Southampton FC through the mud, for God's sake go!!!
"TEBOURBA says...
2:36pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Some supporters are fickle and have very short memories.
When AP took over, the Saints were a disheartened, disjointed, rabble with a 10 point deduction.
He built the squad, took them to within spitting distance of the play offs and winning the JPT Final.
Nigel inherited the squad that AP built, including Rickie and with very few changes or additions won promotion.
Who's to say that had AP not been dumped by Cortese he couldn't have done the same as Nigel or even better?"
O.D.F.O, you tedious oik.
Clever Dick
says...
7:21pm Tue 12 Mar 13
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:Who cares. He's obviously not pushing the line that NC requires. His departure won't affect anything that happens on the pitch and at the moment that's a bit more important. Just gives the jealous idiots down the road somethig to chew on . So chew on this. Premier League, division 2, £250Million, £0000.00000000. I'll leave you to sort out which applies to the two clubs. (Well 1 club and a pathetic,embarrassin
from julius d - Et tu Brute?
or
Et tu Corte?
g, excuse for a club supported by the very few blue)
lowe esteem
says...
7:29pm Tue 12 Mar 13
billythesaint wrote:How's your Aunt on communication...bett
TEBOURBA wrote:Can't understand your anti-Cortese drivel when you compare our club now to what we had before Cortese and Liebherr took over. And what's this "best manager ever" nonsense? My aunt could have got us out of league one with the team we had. Adkins has gone, we've been doing pretty much the same without him, but slightly sharper in defence and things are looking very rosy for the future. Get over yourself.
As I've said many times what goes around comes around.
Cortese said that Mr Duncan would keep Southampton FC in the forefront of communications for years ahead -- and he's left after 2 months!
Could it possibly be that Mr Duncan couldn't stand the shyster's style of management?
This includes law suits against the Club, from a humble contractor and a Saints' legend; sacking the best manager Saints have ever had and rather than settling his contract honourably, keeping him on gardening leave, hoping against hope Cortese won't have to cough up his full entitlement; appointing a manager who can't speak English and whose record over his first 7 games is far worse than the man he replaced; Cortese didn't have the guts have the guts to face the media when he sacked Nigel.
Yes Mr Cortese you're beginning to realise what goes around comes around.
How anyone can support the actons of his man is beyond me, he is dragging the good name of Southampton FC through the mud, for God's sake go!!!
er than you? She's in then.
Only in the mad, bad world of football can people hire and fire with such abandon, and it still doesn't register in some places. In the real world (therefore exclude #anking and politics) the business often stands or falls on the decisions made upstairs and the subsequent morale and goodwill of it's workforce. Football will remain a playground for maverick megalamaniacs all the time the authorities (FIFA League and FA) and the mug punter allow it to do so. Whilst many sycophants base their adulation on comparisons with what has gone before, I would urge more vigilance and awareness of these circumstances, and be careful what you wish for, your aspirations are not too far removed from any of the Chelsea, Man City, Rangers or Portsmouth models-funny, lumping them in together, but that's the way the dice has been falling of late. Your choice:Keep your eyes ears and minds open, or follow,follow....
lowe esteem
says...
7:37pm Tue 12 Mar 13
billythesaint wrote:The next level, blah, blah, blah...
Quick stat for you Tebourba as I need to constantly provide them to back myself up on here:
Avg goals conceded in PL with your lord and master at the helm: 1.82
With Poch: 1.57
I've got more but they are boring and it's 5pm: home time.
...and before you say it, I will never boo anyone in a Saints shirt (even if it's not a Saints shirt) like I heard at Carrow Road, and I've been going over 40 years, had a season-ticket when I needed it etc.
Exiled Saint - front line eastern outpost of Gosport
says...
7:44pm Tue 12 Mar 13
Great news, now fire Jordan Sibley.
OSPREYSAINT
says...
7:48pm Tue 12 Mar 13
lowe esteem wrote:We are still on a steep learning curve, not all of the answers are instantly accessible, there will be much trial and error before things will be sorted, just a bit too much error at the moment.
billythesaint wrote:How's your Aunt on communication...bett
TEBOURBA wrote:Can't understand your anti-Cortese drivel when you compare our club now to what we had before Cortese and Liebherr took over. And what's this "best manager ever" nonsense? My aunt could have got us out of league one with the team we had. Adkins has gone, we've been doing pretty much the same without him, but slightly sharper in defence and things are looking very rosy for the future. Get over yourself.
As I've said many times what goes around comes around.
Cortese said that Mr Duncan would keep Southampton FC in the forefront of communications for years ahead -- and he's left after 2 months!
Could it possibly be that Mr Duncan couldn't stand the shyster's style of management?
This includes law suits against the Club, from a humble contractor and a Saints' legend; sacking the best manager Saints have ever had and rather than settling his contract honourably, keeping him on gardening leave, hoping against hope Cortese won't have to cough up his full entitlement; appointing a manager who can't speak English and whose record over his first 7 games is far worse than the man he replaced; Cortese didn't have the guts have the guts to face the media when he sacked Nigel.
Yes Mr Cortese you're beginning to realise what goes around comes around.
How anyone can support the actons of his man is beyond me, he is dragging the good name of Southampton FC through the mud, for God's sake go!!!
er than you? She's in then.
Only in the mad, bad world of football can people hire and fire with such abandon, and it still doesn't register in some places. In the real world (therefore exclude #anking and politics) the business often stands or falls on the decisions made upstairs and the subsequent morale and goodwill of it's workforce. Football will remain a playground for maverick megalamaniacs all the time the authorities (FIFA League and FA) and the mug punter allow it to do so. Whilst many sycophants base their adulation on comparisons with what has gone before, I would urge more vigilance and awareness of these circumstances, and be careful what you wish for, your aspirations are not too far removed from any of the Chelsea, Man City, Rangers or Portsmouth models-funny, lumping them in together, but that's the way the dice has been falling of late. Your choice:Keep your eyes ears and minds open, or follow,follow....
business-guru
says...
8:04pm Tue 12 Mar 13
St Retford wrote:it says either A. They are rubbish at recruitment or B. They are not rubbish at recruitment but employed someone who would not "play-ball". Pretty much no other conclusions to reach ! Either way is amateurish.
Well I don't know and I suspect no one else does, but I would wager £5 this isn't going to stop *certain* people from making hysterical claims about what this says about the state of the club.
And go...
billythesaint
says...
8:22pm Tue 12 Mar 13
lowe esteem wrote:Nope, you've lost me. Your post is nothing to do with what I've written! And your rants are writing cheques your spelling can't cash. FYI it's megalomaniacs. That red line under your words means you've made an error. Has done for about 20 years.
billythesaint wrote:The next level, blah, blah, blah...
Quick stat for you Tebourba as I need to constantly provide them to back myself up on here:
Avg goals conceded in PL with your lord and master at the helm: 1.82
With Poch: 1.57
I've got more but they are boring and it's 5pm: home time.
...and before you say it, I will never boo anyone in a Saints shirt (even if it's not a Saints shirt) like I heard at Carrow Road, and I've been going over 40 years, had a season-ticket when I needed it etc.
SouthamptonLegend
says...
8:39pm Tue 12 Mar 13
billythesaint wrote:HA!! Strong work Billy!!!!
lowe esteem wrote:Nope, you've lost me. Your post is nothing to do with what I've written! And your rants are writing cheques your spelling can't cash. FYI it's megalomaniacs. That red line under your words means you've made an error. Has done for about 20 years.
billythesaint wrote:The next level, blah, blah, blah...
Quick stat for you Tebourba as I need to constantly provide them to back myself up on here:
Avg goals conceded in PL with your lord and master at the helm: 1.82
With Poch: 1.57
I've got more but they are boring and it's 5pm: home time.
...and before you say it, I will never boo anyone in a Saints shirt (even if it's not a Saints shirt) like I heard at Carrow Road, and I've been going over 40 years, had a season-ticket when I needed it etc.
TEBOURBA
says...
8:39pm Tue 12 Mar 13
Points won in Nigel's last 7 games 10,
points won in MP's first 7 games 6!!
Beginning to have second thoughts Cortese???
I'm flattered that Velleity keeps a record of my postings AP was a very good manager and could well have taken Saints to the Premiership had Cortese not sacked him.
it is a fact that Nigel inherited a good squad from AP early enough in the season to build on it.
Anyone who sacks a manager in January, with back to back promotions and a record of 1 defeat, 4 draws and 2 wins in the 7 league games immediately prior to his sacking and replaces him with non English speaking manager who took his previous club to rock bottom and was sacked needs their head examining! as does anyone who defends such action
points won in MP's first 7 games 6!!
Beginning to have second thoughts Cortese???
I'm flattered that Velleity keeps a record of my postings AP was a very good manager and could well have taken Saints to the Premiership had Cortese not sacked him.
it is a fact that Nigel inherited a good squad from AP early enough in the season to build on it.
Anyone who sacks a manager in January, with back to back promotions and a record of 1 defeat, 4 draws and 2 wins in the 7 league games immediately prior to his sacking and replaces him with non English speaking manager who took his previous club to rock bottom and was sacked needs their head examining! as does anyone who defends such action
billythesaint
says...
8:54pm Tue 12 Mar 13
TEBOURBA wrote:So you're counting the 5-1 loss to Chelsea at home and the 1-0 loss to Sunderland at home and ignoring beating the Champions 3-1 and camping in Man Utd own half at Old Trafford? He's gone, get behind the new manager or we'll be here all day. We're looking tighter in defence and much less likely to get spanked which will keep us up.
Points won in Nigel's last 7 games 10,
points won in MP's first 7 games 6!!
Beginning to have second thoughts Cortese???
I'm flattered that Velleity keeps a record of my postings AP was a very good manager and could well have taken Saints to the Premiership had Cortese not sacked him.
it is a fact that Nigel inherited a good squad from AP early enough in the season to build on it.
Anyone who sacks a manager in January, with back to back promotions and a record of 1 defeat, 4 draws and 2 wins in the 7 league games immediately prior to his sacking and replaces him with non English speaking manager who took his previous club to rock bottom and was sacked needs their head examining! as does anyone who defends such action
BracknellSaint
says...
9:13pm Tue 12 Mar 13
TEBOURBA wrote:Ah, fact or opinion then? Let me know before I book my head check investigation eh?
Points won in Nigel's last 7 games 10,
points won in MP's first 7 games 6!!
Beginning to have second thoughts Cortese???
I'm flattered that Velleity keeps a record of my postings AP was a very good manager and could well have taken Saints to the Premiership had Cortese not sacked him.
it is a fact that Nigel inherited a good squad from AP early enough in the season to build on it.
Anyone who sacks a manager in January, with back to back promotions and a record of 1 defeat, 4 draws and 2 wins in the 7 league games immediately prior to his sacking and replaces him with non English speaking manager who took his previous club to rock bottom and was sacked needs their head examining! as does anyone who defends such action
So you'll overlook the incredible job the guy did in his few seasons at Espanyol, including keeping a tiny club who sold its best players every year,in the top division of the most technically demanding league anywhere, while bringing through a fairly unprecedented number of youth players, with a fair few making it all the way into Spain's ( not somewhere mediocre like England, but THE best team(ever?)'s national squad?
Yet you'll also overlook the point of the season we're on, and who we've played..yet not overlook Adkins' first 10 results?
I really liked NA too, but we've got to get behind OUR team, and I think MP has huge potential.
business-guru
says...
9:27pm Tue 12 Mar 13
BracknellSaint wrote:sorry got to laugh at this ... I went to a Racing v Athletico game and it was utter sh**.... technically demanding ??? you are having a laugh..... the worse game in any given saturday in the championship is better that the worse in La Liga.... there are some dire teams in that league... MPs track record is not consistant with anything other than him being one of NCs mates.... People may take the pi55 out of Teboura but you can not argue with his core stat... NA was on a roll, a roll that was squashed....
TEBOURBA wrote:Ah, fact or opinion then? Let me know before I book my head check investigation eh?
Points won in Nigel's last 7 games 10,
points won in MP's first 7 games 6!!
Beginning to have second thoughts Cortese???
I'm flattered that Velleity keeps a record of my postings AP was a very good manager and could well have taken Saints to the Premiership had Cortese not sacked him.
it is a fact that Nigel inherited a good squad from AP early enough in the season to build on it.
Anyone who sacks a manager in January, with back to back promotions and a record of 1 defeat, 4 draws and 2 wins in the 7 league games immediately prior to his sacking and replaces him with non English speaking manager who took his previous club to rock bottom and was sacked needs their head examining! as does anyone who defends such action
So you'll overlook the incredible job the guy did in his few seasons at Espanyol, including keeping a tiny club who sold its best players every year,in the top division of the most technically demanding league anywhere, while bringing through a fairly unprecedented number of youth players, with a fair few making it all the way into Spain's ( not somewhere mediocre like England, but THE best team(ever?)'s national squad?
Yet you'll also overlook the point of the season we're on, and who we've played..yet not overlook Adkins' first 10 results?
I really liked NA too, but we've got to get behind OUR team, and I think MP has huge potential.
BracknellSaint
says...
9:29pm Tue 12 Mar 13
business-guru wrote:And Nigel's first set of games had awesome results, right?
BracknellSaint wrote:sorry got to laugh at this ... I went to a Racing v Athletico game and it was utter sh**.... technically demanding ??? you are having a laugh..... the worse game in any given saturday in the championship is better that the worse in La Liga.... there are some dire teams in that league... MPs track record is not consistant with anything other than him being one of NCs mates.... People may take the pi55 out of Teboura but you can not argue with his core stat... NA was on a roll, a roll that was squashed....
TEBOURBA wrote:Ah, fact or opinion then? Let me know before I book my head check investigation eh?
Points won in Nigel's last 7 games 10,
points won in MP's first 7 games 6!!
Beginning to have second thoughts Cortese???
I'm flattered that Velleity keeps a record of my postings AP was a very good manager and could well have taken Saints to the Premiership had Cortese not sacked him.
it is a fact that Nigel inherited a good squad from AP early enough in the season to build on it.
Anyone who sacks a manager in January, with back to back promotions and a record of 1 defeat, 4 draws and 2 wins in the 7 league games immediately prior to his sacking and replaces him with non English speaking manager who took his previous club to rock bottom and was sacked needs their head examining! as does anyone who defends such action
So you'll overlook the incredible job the guy did in his few seasons at Espanyol, including keeping a tiny club who sold its best players every year,in the top division of the most technically demanding league anywhere, while bringing through a fairly unprecedented number of youth players, with a fair few making it all the way into Spain's ( not somewhere mediocre like England, but THE best team(ever?)'s national squad?
Yet you'll also overlook the point of the season we're on, and who we've played..yet not overlook Adkins' first 10 results?
I really liked NA too, but we've got to get behind OUR team, and I think MP has huge potential.
BracknellSaint
says...
9:33pm Tue 12 Mar 13
BracknellSaint wrote:As in 8 losses one win, one draw in first 10?
business-guru wrote:And Nigel's first set of games had awesome results, right?
BracknellSaint wrote:sorry got to laugh at this ... I went to a Racing v Athletico game and it was utter sh**.... technically demanding ??? you are having a laugh..... the worse game in any given saturday in the championship is better that the worse in La Liga.... there are some dire teams in that league... MPs track record is not consistant with anything other than him being one of NCs mates.... People may take the pi55 out of Teboura but you can not argue with his core stat... NA was on a roll, a roll that was squashed....
TEBOURBA wrote:Ah, fact or opinion then? Let me know before I book my head check investigation eh?
Points won in Nigel's last 7 games 10,
points won in MP's first 7 games 6!!
Beginning to have second thoughts Cortese???
I'm flattered that Velleity keeps a record of my postings AP was a very good manager and could well have taken Saints to the Premiership had Cortese not sacked him.
it is a fact that Nigel inherited a good squad from AP early enough in the season to build on it.
Anyone who sacks a manager in January, with back to back promotions and a record of 1 defeat, 4 draws and 2 wins in the 7 league games immediately prior to his sacking and replaces him with non English speaking manager who took his previous club to rock bottom and was sacked needs their head examining! as does anyone who defends such action
So you'll overlook the incredible job the guy did in his few seasons at Espanyol, including keeping a tiny club who sold its best players every year,in the top division of the most technically demanding league anywhere, while bringing through a fairly unprecedented number of youth players, with a fair few making it all the way into Spain's ( not somewhere mediocre like England, but THE best team(ever?)'s national squad?
Yet you'll also overlook the point of the season we're on, and who we've played..yet not overlook Adkins' first 10 results?
I really liked NA too, but we've got to get behind OUR team, and I think MP has huge potential.
History rewritten?
BracknellSaint
says...
9:39pm Tue 12 Mar 13
business-guru wrote:oh, and you went to one shat game in Spain and you judge the league?!
BracknellSaint wrote:sorry got to laugh at this ... I went to a Racing v Athletico game and it was utter sh**.... technically demanding ??? you are having a laugh..... the worse game in any given saturday in the championship is better that the worse in La Liga.... there are some dire teams in that league... MPs track record is not consistant with anything other than him being one of NCs mates.... People may take the pi55 out of Teboura but you can not argue with his core stat... NA was on a roll, a roll that was squashed....
TEBOURBA wrote:Ah, fact or opinion then? Let me know before I book my head check investigation eh?
Points won in Nigel's last 7 games 10,
points won in MP's first 7 games 6!!
Beginning to have second thoughts Cortese???
I'm flattered that Velleity keeps a record of my postings AP was a very good manager and could well have taken Saints to the Premiership had Cortese not sacked him.
it is a fact that Nigel inherited a good squad from AP early enough in the season to build on it.
Anyone who sacks a manager in January, with back to back promotions and a record of 1 defeat, 4 draws and 2 wins in the 7 league games immediately prior to his sacking and replaces him with non English speaking manager who took his previous club to rock bottom and was sacked needs their head examining! as does anyone who defends such action
So you'll overlook the incredible job the guy did in his few seasons at Espanyol, including keeping a tiny club who sold its best players every year,in the top division of the most technically demanding league anywhere, while bringing through a fairly unprecedented number of youth players, with a fair few making it all the way into Spain's ( not somewhere mediocre like England, but THE best team(ever?)'s national squad?
Yet you'll also overlook the point of the season we're on, and who we've played..yet not overlook Adkins' first 10 results?
I really liked NA too, but we've got to get behind OUR team, and I think MP has huge potential.
Imagine if your view of England was Stoke v Wet Spam...actually, would be oddly fitting..hoof and hustle..
SaintsBTGOG
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9:48pm Tue 12 Mar 13
tebourba seems to be the only person on here who grasps what goes on at SFC.
I dare say Duncan found working for Cortese intolerable as many have found out after taking jobs. He was our third person in this role since Cortese turned up. Duncan comes from an open transparent way of doing things. So him taking the job raised an eyebrow. Nobody could deal with the fall out from the Adkins sacking. Cortese though lives on his own self obsessed cloud. Now seeing Cortese mugging off Adkins unwilling to pay him his dues. I expect Duncan didnt want to be a part of that culture.
I dare say Duncan found working for Cortese intolerable as many have found out after taking jobs. He was our third person in this role since Cortese turned up. Duncan comes from an open transparent way of doing things. So him taking the job raised an eyebrow. Nobody could deal with the fall out from the Adkins sacking. Cortese though lives on his own self obsessed cloud. Now seeing Cortese mugging off Adkins unwilling to pay him his dues. I expect Duncan didnt want to be a part of that culture.
OSPREYSAINT
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10:12pm Tue 12 Mar 13
SaintsBTGOG wrote:You have hit the nail on the head, 32,000 plus are wrong only The Borer is right? Are you feeling disorientated tonight or what?
tebourba seems to be the only person on here who grasps what goes on at SFC.
I dare say Duncan found working for Cortese intolerable as many have found out after taking jobs. He was our third person in this role since Cortese turned up. Duncan comes from an open transparent way of doing things. So him taking the job raised an eyebrow. Nobody could deal with the fall out from the Adkins sacking. Cortese though lives on his own self obsessed cloud. Now seeing Cortese mugging off Adkins unwilling to pay him his dues. I expect Duncan didnt want to be a part of that culture.
Bermondsey boy
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6:12am Wed 13 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Wow, amazing, now I know why you think these threads should be dominated by your opinions only. You know the minds of all 32'000 Saints fans.
SaintsBTGOG wrote:You have hit the nail on the head, 32,000 plus are wrong only The Borer is right? Are you feeling disorientated tonight or what?
tebourba seems to be the only person on here who grasps what goes on at SFC.
I dare say Duncan found working for Cortese intolerable as many have found out after taking jobs. He was our third person in this role since Cortese turned up. Duncan comes from an open transparent way of doing things. So him taking the job raised an eyebrow. Nobody could deal with the fall out from the Adkins sacking. Cortese though lives on his own self obsessed cloud. Now seeing Cortese mugging off Adkins unwilling to pay him his dues. I expect Duncan didnt want to be a part of that culture.
ghk230473
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7:14am Wed 13 Mar 13
Bermondsey boy wrote:He's got a point ossy!
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Wow, amazing, now I know why you think these threads should be dominated by your opinions only. You know the minds of all 32'000 Saints fans.
SaintsBTGOG wrote:You have hit the nail on the head, 32,000 plus are wrong only The Borer is right? Are you feeling disorientated tonight or what?
tebourba seems to be the only person on here who grasps what goes on at SFC.
I dare say Duncan found working for Cortese intolerable as many have found out after taking jobs. He was our third person in this role since Cortese turned up. Duncan comes from an open transparent way of doing things. So him taking the job raised an eyebrow. Nobody could deal with the fall out from the Adkins sacking. Cortese though lives on his own self obsessed cloud. Now seeing Cortese mugging off Adkins unwilling to pay him his dues. I expect Duncan didnt want to be a part of that culture.
Nc certainly splits opinion not just on this site but in general. True that he may have been the middle man bringing Markus to the table but it was always going to be a good deal. 32000 seater stadium, training ground etc and heading out of business and going for a snip!
I'd like to think this is our' club still and we should have a say, we blame Pompey supporters for their demise not knowing that big money was being spent with very little coming in. Questions need to be asked, mp has got to work for cortèses sake and we have to avoid the drop.
OSPREYSAINT
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8:27am Wed 13 Mar 13
ghk230473 wrote:To be honest I have no idea what the general opinion of our fans is on this at the moment perhaps another poll could tell us. I am probably alone in thinking that NC is the prime reason that we are where we are and as long as that is the situation I am prepared to live with it. One day things will change, a new owner perhaps, but no one can tell me now whether we will be any better off or any worse off when that happens. As long as the Football Club exists I have to accept the status quo, and support it as I see fit. I see no point in crying over spilt milk, Nigel Adkins was a top man for us, the decision has been made to change to someone else, we may not like it, but we have no control over it. I have little doubt that eventually a satisfactory conclusion will see him accept what he is offered and he will move on to other things. We have to move on without him.
Bermondsey boy wrote:He's got a point ossy!
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Wow, amazing, now I know why you think these threads should be dominated by your opinions only. You know the minds of all 32'000 Saints fans.
SaintsBTGOG wrote:You have hit the nail on the head, 32,000 plus are wrong only The Borer is right? Are you feeling disorientated tonight or what?
tebourba seems to be the only person on here who grasps what goes on at SFC.
I dare say Duncan found working for Cortese intolerable as many have found out after taking jobs. He was our third person in this role since Cortese turned up. Duncan comes from an open transparent way of doing things. So him taking the job raised an eyebrow. Nobody could deal with the fall out from the Adkins sacking. Cortese though lives on his own self obsessed cloud. Now seeing Cortese mugging off Adkins unwilling to pay him his dues. I expect Duncan didnt want to be a part of that culture.
Nc certainly splits opinion not just on this site but in general. True that he may have been the middle man bringing Markus to the table but it was always going to be a good deal. 32000 seater stadium, training ground etc and heading out of business and going for a snip!
I'd like to think this is our' club still and we should have a say, we blame Pompey supporters for their demise not knowing that big money was being spent with very little coming in. Questions need to be asked, mp has got to work for cortèses sake and we have to avoid the drop.
OSPREYSAINT
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8:43am Wed 13 Mar 13
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Sainty saint saint
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8:47am Wed 13 Mar 13
SaintsBTGOG wrote:Errmmm... how could he be the third person in this roe when the role was newly created for Duncan?
tebourba seems to be the only person on here who grasps what goes on at SFC.
I dare say Duncan found working for Cortese intolerable as many have found out after taking jobs. He was our third person in this role since Cortese turned up. Duncan comes from an open transparent way of doing things. So him taking the job raised an eyebrow. Nobody could deal with the fall out from the Adkins sacking. Cortese though lives on his own self obsessed cloud. Now seeing Cortese mugging off Adkins unwilling to pay him his dues. I expect Duncan didnt want to be a part of that culture.
I happen to have crossed paths with this chap and I can say personally I'm not at all surprised he wasn't up to the job.
billythesaint
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9:45am Wed 13 Mar 13
Sainty saint saint wrote:A friend of mine works very closely alongside Cortese and thinks he's a decent guy. Cortese trusts and respects my friend for their work ethic in return. He's a hard taskmaster and perfectionist but you only survive at St. Marys if you know your @rse from your elbow, not how much you brown nose him. Some people see Cortese as this evil figure sitting in his tower blinkered to anyone else's opinion when none of you actually work for him or have even met him!
SaintsBTGOG wrote:Errmmm... how could he be the third person in this roe when the role was newly created for Duncan?
tebourba seems to be the only person on here who grasps what goes on at SFC.
I dare say Duncan found working for Cortese intolerable as many have found out after taking jobs. He was our third person in this role since Cortese turned up. Duncan comes from an open transparent way of doing things. So him taking the job raised an eyebrow. Nobody could deal with the fall out from the Adkins sacking. Cortese though lives on his own self obsessed cloud. Now seeing Cortese mugging off Adkins unwilling to pay him his dues. I expect Duncan didnt want to be a part of that culture.
I happen to have crossed paths with this chap and I can say personally I'm not at all surprised he wasn't up to the job.
Rob The Saint NOT in NZ
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11:22am Wed 13 Mar 13
billythesaint wrote:Don't tell Tebourba!
Sainty saint saint wrote:A friend of mine works very closely alongside Cortese and thinks he's a decent guy. Cortese trusts and respects my friend for their work ethic in return. He's a hard taskmaster and perfectionist but you only survive at St. Marys if you know your @rse from your elbow, not how much you brown nose him. Some people see Cortese as this evil figure sitting in his tower blinkered to anyone else's opinion when none of you actually work for him or have even met him!
SaintsBTGOG wrote:Errmmm... how could he be the third person in this roe when the role was newly created for Duncan?
tebourba seems to be the only person on here who grasps what goes on at SFC.
I dare say Duncan found working for Cortese intolerable as many have found out after taking jobs. He was our third person in this role since Cortese turned up. Duncan comes from an open transparent way of doing things. So him taking the job raised an eyebrow. Nobody could deal with the fall out from the Adkins sacking. Cortese though lives on his own self obsessed cloud. Now seeing Cortese mugging off Adkins unwilling to pay him his dues. I expect Duncan didnt want to be a part of that culture.
I happen to have crossed paths with this chap and I can say personally I'm not at all surprised he wasn't up to the job.
florida saint
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12:23pm Wed 13 Mar 13
TEBOURBA wrote:well said, i have to agree, u t s
As I've said many times what goes around comes around.
Cortese said that Mr Duncan would keep Southampton FC in the forefront of communications for years ahead -- and he's left after 2 months!
Could it possibly be that Mr Duncan couldn't stand the shyster's style of management?
This includes law suits against the Club, from a humble contractor and a Saints' legend; sacking the best manager Saints have ever had and rather than settling his contract honourably, keeping him on gardening leave, hoping against hope Cortese won't have to cough up his full entitlement; appointing a manager who can't speak English and whose record over his first 7 games is far worse than the man he replaced; Cortese didn't have the guts have the guts to face the media when he sacked Nigel.
Yes Mr Cortese you're beginning to realise what goes around comes around.
How anyone can support the actons of his man is beyond me, he is dragging the good name of Southampton FC through the mud, for God's sake go!!!
Taoboy
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12:54pm Wed 13 Mar 13
billythesaint wrote:From now on i'll take that as a given.
Sainty saint saint wrote:A friend of mine works very closely alongside Cortese and thinks he's a decent guy. Cortese trusts and respects my friend for their work ethic in return. He's a hard taskmaster and perfectionist but you only survive at St. Marys if you know your @rse from your elbow, not how much you brown nose him. Some people see Cortese as this evil figure sitting in his tower blinkered to anyone else's opinion when none of you actually work for him or have even met him!
SaintsBTGOG wrote:Errmmm... how could he be the third person in this roe when the role was newly created for Duncan?
tebourba seems to be the only person on here who grasps what goes on at SFC.
I dare say Duncan found working for Cortese intolerable as many have found out after taking jobs. He was our third person in this role since Cortese turned up. Duncan comes from an open transparent way of doing things. So him taking the job raised an eyebrow. Nobody could deal with the fall out from the Adkins sacking. Cortese though lives on his own self obsessed cloud. Now seeing Cortese mugging off Adkins unwilling to pay him his dues. I expect Duncan didnt want to be a part of that culture.
I happen to have crossed paths with this chap and I can say personally I'm not at all surprised he wasn't up to the job.
Let us see some decent Conduct towards previous servants of the club, who might share NC's hopes for the future.
Just because your paranoid doesn't mean their not out to take you down, similarly Just because your Kind is no reason to assume your a pushover.
Kindness cost nothing and changes peoples experiences for the better.
It is the lubrication that allows trust and CONFIDENCE.
Any business may only function if it is considered honest in theory.
maybe the replacement might do better.
jezza
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2:08pm Wed 13 Mar 13
Oh ****!
I paid good money to have "Together as One" written on my horse trailer below my Saints badge. Reading this thread through, I'm going to have to have it removed again.
Whatever else is said about the NA/NC partnership of the last 2 years, they did bring a period of Saints history in which we fans were almost unanimously "together" and everyone involved in the club had smiles on their faces the whole time.
Please sir. . . . . . can we have some more?
I paid good money to have "Together as One" written on my horse trailer below my Saints badge. Reading this thread through, I'm going to have to have it removed again.
Whatever else is said about the NA/NC partnership of the last 2 years, they did bring a period of Saints history in which we fans were almost unanimously "together" and everyone involved in the club had smiles on their faces the whole time.
Please sir. . . . . . can we have some more?
lowe esteem
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2:18pm Wed 13 Mar 13
billythesaint wrote:...and some people chose to have fixed opinions rather than have an open-mind on this-collating all 'pro-info' rather than weighing pro's and con's-with the information available.
Sainty saint saint wrote:A friend of mine works very closely alongside Cortese and thinks he's a decent guy. Cortese trusts and respects my friend for their work ethic in return. He's a hard taskmaster and perfectionist but you only survive at St. Marys if you know your @rse from your elbow, not how much you brown nose him. Some people see Cortese as this evil figure sitting in his tower blinkered to anyone else's opinion when none of you actually work for him or have even met him!
SaintsBTGOG wrote:Errmmm... how could he be the third person in this roe when the role was newly created for Duncan?
tebourba seems to be the only person on here who grasps what goes on at SFC.
I dare say Duncan found working for Cortese intolerable as many have found out after taking jobs. He was our third person in this role since Cortese turned up. Duncan comes from an open transparent way of doing things. So him taking the job raised an eyebrow. Nobody could deal with the fall out from the Adkins sacking. Cortese though lives on his own self obsessed cloud. Now seeing Cortese mugging off Adkins unwilling to pay him his dues. I expect Duncan didnt want to be a part of that culture.
I happen to have crossed paths with this chap and I can say personally I'm not at all surprised he wasn't up to the job.
Your defensive "mustn't cross the red-line dear"-explains your American spelling sometimes too. Do your own spell-check-trust nobody!
Stroppy_gramps
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2:38pm Wed 13 Mar 13
no one actually considered that the bloke might not have been up to the job?
or that once he took it on he realised that, actually, the job wasn't for him?
nothing underhand, no backstabbing, no agenda. Just plain and simple.
this kind of thing happens all the time, you conspiracy theorists can keep on about it. Personally I'm only concentrating on supporting the team so we can stay in the Premiership. Everything else is a mere sideshow to this.
or that once he took it on he realised that, actually, the job wasn't for him?
nothing underhand, no backstabbing, no agenda. Just plain and simple.
this kind of thing happens all the time, you conspiracy theorists can keep on about it. Personally I'm only concentrating on supporting the team so we can stay in the Premiership. Everything else is a mere sideshow to this.
SaintsBTGOG
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4:19pm Wed 13 Mar 13
Sainty saint saint wrote:I think you will find that whilst the title was new. He was doing jobs that Scott Steadman and Chris Hayler did. CH left and Duncan was brought in. JD wasnt just doing PR he was interested in commercial stuff as well. The club is badly in need of commercial revenue and sponsorship in particular from more local firms. His departure means there will be yet another void in getting much needed income.
SaintsBTGOG wrote:Errmmm... how could he be the third person in this roe when the role was newly created for Duncan?
tebourba seems to be the only person on here who grasps what goes on at SFC.
I dare say Duncan found working for Cortese intolerable as many have found out after taking jobs. He was our third person in this role since Cortese turned up. Duncan comes from an open transparent way of doing things. So him taking the job raised an eyebrow. Nobody could deal with the fall out from the Adkins sacking. Cortese though lives on his own self obsessed cloud. Now seeing Cortese mugging off Adkins unwilling to pay him his dues. I expect Duncan didnt want to be a part of that culture.
I happen to have crossed paths with this chap and I can say personally I'm not at all surprised he wasn't up to the job.
SaintsBTGOG
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4:21pm Wed 13 Mar 13
billythesaint wrote:LOL ive spoken to numerous current and past staff and they all think hes an arrogant obnoxious buffon. Nobody can work with him as hes too interfering in peoples jobs.
Sainty saint saint wrote:A friend of mine works very closely alongside Cortese and thinks he's a decent guy. Cortese trusts and respects my friend for their work ethic in return. He's a hard taskmaster and perfectionist but you only survive at St. Marys if you know your @rse from your elbow, not how much you brown nose him. Some people see Cortese as this evil figure sitting in his tower blinkered to anyone else's opinion when none of you actually work for him or have even met him!
SaintsBTGOG wrote:Errmmm... how could he be the third person in this roe when the role was newly created for Duncan?
tebourba seems to be the only person on here who grasps what goes on at SFC.
I dare say Duncan found working for Cortese intolerable as many have found out after taking jobs. He was our third person in this role since Cortese turned up. Duncan comes from an open transparent way of doing things. So him taking the job raised an eyebrow. Nobody could deal with the fall out from the Adkins sacking. Cortese though lives on his own self obsessed cloud. Now seeing Cortese mugging off Adkins unwilling to pay him his dues. I expect Duncan didnt want to be a part of that culture.
I happen to have crossed paths with this chap and I can say personally I'm not at all surprised he wasn't up to the job.
SaintsBTGOG
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4:24pm Wed 13 Mar 13
Stroppy_gramps wrote:He was more than capable of the job and is well respected in pr circles. What he was clearly 'not up to' was working for Nicola Cortese !! There are only two people that seemingly can work for Cortese and they are on London type salaries and working here.
no one actually considered that the bloke might not have been up to the job?
or that once he took it on he realised that, actually, the job wasn't for him?
nothing underhand, no backstabbing, no agenda. Just plain and simple.
this kind of thing happens all the time, you conspiracy theorists can keep on about it. Personally I'm only concentrating on supporting the team so we can stay in the Premiership. Everything else is a mere sideshow to this.
TEBOURBA
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5:21pm Wed 13 Mar 13
When it comes to siding with honourable, hard working, dedicated people such as the programme sellers, Solent Interiors, LeTiss, Franny and most of all Nigel, against Cortese, there is no contest.
I really pity those idiots who quote Nigel's first 10 games in the PL and not his last 10, as a reason for sacking him.
The shyster had MP lined up for the job long before Nigel was able to fully adapt to the PL and prove his real worth.
Cortese didn't have the guts to face
the media when he sacked Nigel
Followers of mine such as Velleity will confirm that I have always supported Nigel and Alan my only suggestion, in the early days of the season was that Nigel could have benefitted from the support of an experienced PL coach.
Had Cortese had the foresight to recognise this then Nigel would stil be manager and we would now be in the the top ten with PL status secured.
What goes around comes around -- as Mr Cortese is learning --- court cases pending, results far worse than Nigel's --it's all stacking up!!
I really pity those idiots who quote Nigel's first 10 games in the PL and not his last 10, as a reason for sacking him.
The shyster had MP lined up for the job long before Nigel was able to fully adapt to the PL and prove his real worth.
Cortese didn't have the guts to face
the media when he sacked Nigel
Followers of mine such as Velleity will confirm that I have always supported Nigel and Alan my only suggestion, in the early days of the season was that Nigel could have benefitted from the support of an experienced PL coach.
Had Cortese had the foresight to recognise this then Nigel would stil be manager and we would now be in the the top ten with PL status secured.
What goes around comes around -- as Mr Cortese is learning --- court cases pending, results far worse than Nigel's --it's all stacking up!!
Alicesdad
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5:45pm Wed 13 Mar 13
TEBOURBA wrote:Rubbish. I stand by my earlier assertion that there is something strange about your posts.
When it comes to siding with honourable, hard working, dedicated people such as the programme sellers, Solent Interiors, LeTiss, Franny and most of all Nigel, against Cortese, there is no contest.
I really pity those idiots who quote Nigel's first 10 games in the PL and not his last 10, as a reason for sacking him.
The shyster had MP lined up for the job long before Nigel was able to fully adapt to the PL and prove his real worth.
Cortese didn't have the guts to face
the media when he sacked Nigel
Followers of mine such as Velleity will confirm that I have always supported Nigel and Alan my only suggestion, in the early days of the season was that Nigel could have benefitted from the support of an experienced PL coach.
Had Cortese had the foresight to recognise this then Nigel would stil be manager and we would now be in the the top ten with PL status secured.
What goes around comes around -- as Mr Cortese is learning --- court cases pending, results far worse than Nigel's --it's all stacking up!!
All the things you have mentioned are basically the day to day stuff that all clubs go through... They will sort out Adkins ... I dont give a monkeys about Solent Interiors ... I'm only vaguely interested in the Benali stuff mainly because it's just one rich guy arguing with another rich guy .. who cares ... boring ...
Nothing is "stacking up" .. Cortese is on top of this business and tolerates no messing about. People don't like that .. but his approach will see this club stay in the premiership for another thirty years.
Stroppy_gramps
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5:54pm Wed 13 Mar 13
TEBOURBA wrote:you really are an arrogant insufferable t*rd aren't you.
When it comes to siding with honourable, hard working, dedicated people such as the programme sellers, Solent Interiors, LeTiss, Franny and most of all Nigel, against Cortese, there is no contest.
I really pity those idiots who quote Nigel's first 10 games in the PL and not his last 10, as a reason for sacking him.
The shyster had MP lined up for the job long before Nigel was able to fully adapt to the PL and prove his real worth.
Cortese didn't have the guts to face
the media when he sacked Nigel
Followers of mine such as Velleity will confirm that I have always supported Nigel and Alan my only suggestion, in the early days of the season was that Nigel could have benefitted from the support of an experienced PL coach.
Had Cortese had the foresight to recognise this then Nigel would stil be manager and we would now be in the the top ten with PL status secured.
What goes around comes around -- as Mr Cortese is learning --- court cases pending, results far worse than Nigel's --it's all stacking up!!
however the joy of democracy means that I must allow you your opinion, just as you should allow everyone else theirs.
so please. rather than behave like such a relentless c*nt and deny everything everyone else is saying, take a step back and see the other point of view.
Your view is formed upon opinions of others - never a very good starting point to try to argue something. You need some facts rather than 'oh well some people don't like working for him'
There's people who don't like working for me, My boss is a great bloke - until he starts to focus on something and then he worries it to death and can cause alot of ructions. but I don't tell anyone else my personal opinion of him because someone else WILL think differently of him.
st1halo
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10:52pm Wed 13 Mar 13
TEBOURBA wrote:You keep saying Cortese didn't have the guts to face the media after sacking Nigel.
When it comes to siding with honourable, hard working, dedicated people such as the programme sellers, Solent Interiors, LeTiss, Franny and most of all Nigel, against Cortese, there is no contest.
I really pity those idiots who quote Nigel's first 10 games in the PL and not his last 10, as a reason for sacking him.
The shyster had MP lined up for the job long before Nigel was able to fully adapt to the PL and prove his real worth.
Cortese didn't have the guts to face
the media when he sacked Nigel
Followers of mine such as Velleity will confirm that I have always supported Nigel and Alan my only suggestion, in the early days of the season was that Nigel could have benefitted from the support of an experienced PL coach.
Had Cortese had the foresight to recognise this then Nigel would stil be manager and we would now be in the the top ten with PL status secured.
What goes around comes around -- as Mr Cortese is learning --- court cases pending, results far worse than Nigel's --it's all stacking up!!
This is WRONG on two points:
1) He did an interview with Sky Sports News to the benefit of both SFC and NA. Being an intelligent man NC knew that had he gone into the press conference following the appointment of Pochettino, no-one would have been interested in it and the media would have focused on Adkins. A very shrewd move.
2) Adkins wasn't sacked.
Get your facts right when posting
STID
ghk230473
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6:44am Thu 14 Mar 13
st1halo wrote:Sorry but statement no2 is pathetic!
TEBOURBA wrote:You keep saying Cortese didn't have the guts to face the media after sacking Nigel.
When it comes to siding with honourable, hard working, dedicated people such as the programme sellers, Solent Interiors, LeTiss, Franny and most of all Nigel, against Cortese, there is no contest.
I really pity those idiots who quote Nigel's first 10 games in the PL and not his last 10, as a reason for sacking him.
The shyster had MP lined up for the job long before Nigel was able to fully adapt to the PL and prove his real worth.
Cortese didn't have the guts to face
the media when he sacked Nigel
Followers of mine such as Velleity will confirm that I have always supported Nigel and Alan my only suggestion, in the early days of the season was that Nigel could have benefitted from the support of an experienced PL coach.
Had Cortese had the foresight to recognise this then Nigel would stil be manager and we would now be in the the top ten with PL status secured.
What goes around comes around -- as Mr Cortese is learning --- court cases pending, results far worse than Nigel's --it's all stacking up!!
This is WRONG on two points:
1) He did an interview with Sky Sports News to the benefit of both SFC and NA. Being an intelligent man NC knew that had he gone into the press conference following the appointment of Pochettino, no-one would have been interested in it and the media would have focused on Adkins. A very shrewd move.
2) Adkins wasn't sacked.
Get your facts right when posting
STID
If he wasn't sacked what happened then? He's no longer in charge of the team and I'm sure he wanted to be. Some of you make it so easy!!!!
Linesman
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10:17am Thu 14 Mar 13
billythesaint wrote:What, exactly, do you disagree with in TEBOURBA's post Billy?
TEBOURBA wrote:Can't understand your anti-Cortese drivel when you compare our club now to what we had before Cortese and Liebherr took over. And what's this "best manager ever" nonsense? My aunt could have got us out of league one with the team we had. Adkins has gone, we've been doing pretty much the same without him, but slightly sharper in defence and things are looking very rosy for the future. Get over yourself.
As I've said many times what goes around comes around.
Cortese said that Mr Duncan would keep Southampton FC in the forefront of communications for years ahead -- and he's left after 2 months!
Could it possibly be that Mr Duncan couldn't stand the shyster's style of management?
This includes law suits against the Club, from a humble contractor and a Saints' legend; sacking the best manager Saints have ever had and rather than settling his contract honourably, keeping him on gardening leave, hoping against hope Cortese won't have to cough up his full entitlement; appointing a manager who can't speak English and whose record over his first 7 games is far worse than the man he replaced; Cortese didn't have the guts have the guts to face the media when he sacked Nigel.
Yes Mr Cortese you're beginning to realise what goes around comes around.
How anyone can support the actons of his man is beyond me, he is dragging the good name of Southampton FC through the mud, for God's sake go!!!
He asked whether Duncan's departure could have been caused byCortese's style of management.
Is that not a reasonable question?
He asked whether Duncan Benali's legal action against the club and the treatment of Le Tissier were the fault of Cortese, but that Duncan was expected to explain away a Director of Communications.
Is that not another reasnable question to ask?
How was he expected to explain away the sacking of Adkins, at a time when the situation was improving, and seeing him replaced by someone who could not communicate directly with the players he was expected to manage?
You state that you cannot understand his anti-Cortese drivel, and ask him to compare the club as it is now, with what it was like before Cortese and Liebherr arrived.
What you fail to mention is that Herr Liebherr is no longer here. He was the man who kept Cortese in check, but there is nobody to keep a tight reign on him now, and in my opinion, that is the cause of the trouble.
st1halo
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10:37am Thu 14 Mar 13
ghk230473 wrote:Fact is he's been stood down, whilst technically sacked he hasnt actually been sacked. Some of you just like the dramatic side of life I suppose!
st1halo wrote:Sorry but statement no2 is pathetic!
TEBOURBA wrote:You keep saying Cortese didn't have the guts to face the media after sacking Nigel.
When it comes to siding with honourable, hard working, dedicated people such as the programme sellers, Solent Interiors, LeTiss, Franny and most of all Nigel, against Cortese, there is no contest.
I really pity those idiots who quote Nigel's first 10 games in the PL and not his last 10, as a reason for sacking him.
The shyster had MP lined up for the job long before Nigel was able to fully adapt to the PL and prove his real worth.
Cortese didn't have the guts to face
the media when he sacked Nigel
Followers of mine such as Velleity will confirm that I have always supported Nigel and Alan my only suggestion, in the early days of the season was that Nigel could have benefitted from the support of an experienced PL coach.
Had Cortese had the foresight to recognise this then Nigel would stil be manager and we would now be in the the top ten with PL status secured.
What goes around comes around -- as Mr Cortese is learning --- court cases pending, results far worse than Nigel's --it's all stacking up!!
This is WRONG on two points:
1) He did an interview with Sky Sports News to the benefit of both SFC and NA. Being an intelligent man NC knew that had he gone into the press conference following the appointment of Pochettino, no-one would have been interested in it and the media would have focused on Adkins. A very shrewd move.
2) Adkins wasn't sacked.
Get your facts right when posting
STID
If he wasn't sacked what happened then? He's no longer in charge of the team and I'm sure he wanted to be. Some of you make it so easy!!!!
STID
ghk230473
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12:14pm Thu 14 Mar 13
st1halo wrote:Like technically you have a brain but you haven't!
ghk230473 wrote:Fact is he's been stood down, whilst technically sacked he hasnt actually been sacked. Some of you just like the dramatic side of life I suppose!
st1halo wrote:Sorry but statement no2 is pathetic!
TEBOURBA wrote:You keep saying Cortese didn't have the guts to face the media after sacking Nigel.
When it comes to siding with honourable, hard working, dedicated people such as the programme sellers, Solent Interiors, LeTiss, Franny and most of all Nigel, against Cortese, there is no contest.
I really pity those idiots who quote Nigel's first 10 games in the PL and not his last 10, as a reason for sacking him.
The shyster had MP lined up for the job long before Nigel was able to fully adapt to the PL and prove his real worth.
Cortese didn't have the guts to face
the media when he sacked Nigel
Followers of mine such as Velleity will confirm that I have always supported Nigel and Alan my only suggestion, in the early days of the season was that Nigel could have benefitted from the support of an experienced PL coach.
Had Cortese had the foresight to recognise this then Nigel would stil be manager and we would now be in the the top ten with PL status secured.
What goes around comes around -- as Mr Cortese is learning --- court cases pending, results far worse than Nigel's --it's all stacking up!!
This is WRONG on two points:
1) He did an interview with Sky Sports News to the benefit of both SFC and NA. Being an intelligent man NC knew that had he gone into the press conference following the appointment of Pochettino, no-one would have been interested in it and the media would have focused on Adkins. A very shrewd move.
2) Adkins wasn't sacked.
Get your facts right when posting
STID
If he wasn't sacked what happened then? He's no longer in charge of the team and I'm sure he wanted to be. Some of you make it so easy!!!!
STID
Lmfao
The stripes
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1:02pm Thu 14 Mar 13
'"Herr Liebherr is no longer here. He was the man who kept Cortese in check, but there is nobody to keep a tight reign on him now, and in my opinion, that is the cause of the trouble".
Good point. It wouldn't surprise me if the Shyster (love that word) knew that before long he would be in the driving seat at Saints when he suggested to Marcus to buy the club. If he was looking after Marcus' wealth then he would have had an idea what his health was like. NC's now where he wanted to be: in full control of a football club whilst not having to answer to anyone with all that financial power at his disposal.
Good point. It wouldn't surprise me if the Shyster (love that word) knew that before long he would be in the driving seat at Saints when he suggested to Marcus to buy the club. If he was looking after Marcus' wealth then he would have had an idea what his health was like. NC's now where he wanted to be: in full control of a football club whilst not having to answer to anyone with all that financial power at his disposal.
MiltonRoad
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1:04pm Thu 14 Mar 13
You are clearly not allowed to come on here and criticise Cortese because you get shouted down by the vocal minority! I thought the Director of Communcations was under instruction to come on this site under various pseudonyms and support Cortese at all costs but the fact that the posts are continuing suggests they may be real?
The majority of fans that actually go and watch the games know that we are a poorer side today than we were at the end of the Adkins reign. We could argue all day about the merits of the long term nature of the appointment but in the short term we are far more likely to go down under MP than we were under NA. Results and current form prove that. Add to that the way that Cortese handled the situation within NA's 'sacking' and people have every right to criticise him. Cortese has shown little to no interest in our fans and runs our club like an investment bank. If you are happy with that, then fine. But don't shout down the fans that are not.
The majority of fans that actually go and watch the games know that we are a poorer side today than we were at the end of the Adkins reign. We could argue all day about the merits of the long term nature of the appointment but in the short term we are far more likely to go down under MP than we were under NA. Results and current form prove that. Add to that the way that Cortese handled the situation within NA's 'sacking' and people have every right to criticise him. Cortese has shown little to no interest in our fans and runs our club like an investment bank. If you are happy with that, then fine. But don't shout down the fans that are not.
st1halo
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4:35pm Thu 14 Mar 13
ghk230473 wrote:Yeah you carry on in your little conspiracy filled fantasy world. Let me know when you find Elvis!
st1halo wrote:Like technically you have a brain but you haven't!
ghk230473 wrote:Fact is he's been stood down, whilst technically sacked he hasnt actually been sacked. Some of you just like the dramatic side of life I suppose!
st1halo wrote:Sorry but statement no2 is pathetic!
TEBOURBA wrote:You keep saying Cortese didn't have the guts to face the media after sacking Nigel.
When it comes to siding with honourable, hard working, dedicated people such as the programme sellers, Solent Interiors, LeTiss, Franny and most of all Nigel, against Cortese, there is no contest.
I really pity those idiots who quote Nigel's first 10 games in the PL and not his last 10, as a reason for sacking him.
The shyster had MP lined up for the job long before Nigel was able to fully adapt to the PL and prove his real worth.
Cortese didn't have the guts to face
the media when he sacked Nigel
Followers of mine such as Velleity will confirm that I have always supported Nigel and Alan my only suggestion, in the early days of the season was that Nigel could have benefitted from the support of an experienced PL coach.
Had Cortese had the foresight to recognise this then Nigel would stil be manager and we would now be in the the top ten with PL status secured.
What goes around comes around -- as Mr Cortese is learning --- court cases pending, results far worse than Nigel's --it's all stacking up!!
This is WRONG on two points:
1) He did an interview with Sky Sports News to the benefit of both SFC and NA. Being an intelligent man NC knew that had he gone into the press conference following the appointment of Pochettino, no-one would have been interested in it and the media would have focused on Adkins. A very shrewd move.
2) Adkins wasn't sacked.
Get your facts right when posting
STID
If he wasn't sacked what happened then? He's no longer in charge of the team and I'm sure he wanted to be. Some of you make it so easy!!!!
STID
Lmfao
PMSL
ghk230473
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7:35pm Thu 14 Mar 13
st1halo wrote:No conspiracy, just responding to a completely baffling statement. If it looks and smells like sh1t it's because it is.
ghk230473 wrote:Yeah you carry on in your little conspiracy filled fantasy world. Let me know when you find Elvis!
st1halo wrote:Like technically you have a brain but you haven't!
ghk230473 wrote:Fact is he's been stood down, whilst technically sacked he hasnt actually been sacked. Some of you just like the dramatic side of life I suppose!
st1halo wrote:Sorry but statement no2 is pathetic!
TEBOURBA wrote:You keep saying Cortese didn't have the guts to face the media after sacking Nigel.
When it comes to siding with honourable, hard working, dedicated people such as the programme sellers, Solent Interiors, LeTiss, Franny and most of all Nigel, against Cortese, there is no contest.
I really pity those idiots who quote Nigel's first 10 games in the PL and not his last 10, as a reason for sacking him.
The shyster had MP lined up for the job long before Nigel was able to fully adapt to the PL and prove his real worth.
Cortese didn't have the guts to face
the media when he sacked Nigel
Followers of mine such as Velleity will confirm that I have always supported Nigel and Alan my only suggestion, in the early days of the season was that Nigel could have benefitted from the support of an experienced PL coach.
Had Cortese had the foresight to recognise this then Nigel would stil be manager and we would now be in the the top ten with PL status secured.
What goes around comes around -- as Mr Cortese is learning --- court cases pending, results far worse than Nigel's --it's all stacking up!!
This is WRONG on two points:
1) He did an interview with Sky Sports News to the benefit of both SFC and NA. Being an intelligent man NC knew that had he gone into the press conference following the appointment of Pochettino, no-one would have been interested in it and the media would have focused on Adkins. A very shrewd move.
2) Adkins wasn't sacked.
Get your facts right when posting
STID
If he wasn't sacked what happened then? He's no longer in charge of the team and I'm sure he wanted to be. Some of you make it so easy!!!!
STID
Lmfao
PMSL
Datarater says...
3:22pm Tue 12 Mar 13
What is happening? Was this guy a scapegoat for the way Adkins has been treated?