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Pochettino hails his winning Saints team
9:00am Monday 18th March 2013 in Sport
Jay Rodriguez hits Saints' third goal in a great win
Saints manager Mauricio Pochettino hailed the attitude shown by his players in their 3-1 victory over Liverpool.
The club took a giant step towards Premier League safety with a magnificent triumph against the Reds.
Saints’ performance was reminiscent of the display they produced in their destruction of Manchester City last month.
The win – the second of Pochettino’s St Mary’s reign – ended a three-match winless streak. “Against the small teams we weren’t really as lucky as we were today, or as effective, but it just goes to show that football is based on your mental attitude in every single game you play,” said the Saints boss.
“We have the right mentality and potential and have to make sure that in every single game we play, not just these two games, that we have the same hunger and mentality to always go out for the win.”
Pochettino added: “There were many positive aspects, especially seeing how brave my team was going head-to-head against them and really pushing forward.
“We did not allow them to play at any given moment and when we had the ball we really tried to pursue our philosophy of football.”
Pochettino is satisfied with the progress the players have made during his first two months in charge, but insists there is still much work to do.
“OveralI in these eight games I’ve been managing I think we’ve had the same kind of trajectory,” he said.
“In the other games we have played well but just haven’t got the victory.”
Pochettino added: “Our work is based on the mental preparation, physical and tactical preparation and we have a lot to do in terms of pushing those boundaries and learning even more how to prepare in those three aspects.
“We have the obligation to treat my players not as footballers but first and foremost as people.
“First of all, individually, they need to be in the right state of mind so as a collective they can act in the right state of mind and play together as a team.”
Comments(112)
dadofmy3sons
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9:29am Mon 18 Mar 13
I tend to get us finishing about 14th and finishing with 38 or 39 points.
I can see all sorts of teams falling into the mess and survival is always on goal difference with about 34/35 points the deciding amount.
Should we win 3 more games from the 8 we could finish even higher, as I said before, there are quite a few teams who want to join in the scrap.
Stoke
Norwich
West Ham
Sunderland
Wigan
QPR
Reading
This could be the order of the teams below us.
The only ones who might escape are Wigan just avoiding the drop and Stoke waking up and realising just how much trouble they are in.
The games we need to win are;
Reading, away
West Ham, home
Stoke, home.
A draw with Chelsea or anyone else is a bonus.
If we gain 7/8 points in 7 games before the last game, Stoke, we will not go in to that game worrying.
SFCSaint
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9:35am Mon 18 Mar 13
dadofmy3sons wrote:Wigan are cheats! we should be 6 points clear and comfortable!
Keep playing with the Prem Predictor and being totally honest I still do not see us getting relegated.
I tend to get us finishing about 14th and finishing with 38 or 39 points.
I can see all sorts of teams falling into the mess and survival is always on goal difference with about 34/35 points the deciding amount.
Should we win 3 more games from the 8 we could finish even higher, as I said before, there are quite a few teams who want to join in the scrap.
Stoke
Norwich
West Ham
Sunderland
Wigan
QPR
Reading
This could be the order of the teams below us.
The only ones who might escape are Wigan just avoiding the drop and Stoke waking up and realising just how much trouble they are in.
The games we need to win are;
Reading, away
West Ham, home
Stoke, home.
A draw with Chelsea or anyone else is a bonus.
If we gain 7/8 points in 7 games before the last game, Stoke, we will not go in to that game worrying.
saint christopher
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9:58am Mon 18 Mar 13
Nah. Cut out the namby-pampy liberal approach and mollycodling and use the big stick.Hang a notice saying "loser" around the neck of those who have a poor game and put them in stocks outside the bargate for 24 hours - they'll soon toughen up. Take a leaf out of Fergie's book - it hasn't done him any harm.
Clever Dick
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10:00am Mon 18 Mar 13
dadofmy3sons wrote:Would expect to beat WBA at home as well and we're far better than Sunderland. So at least a draw there as well.
Keep playing with the Prem Predictor and being totally honest I still do not see us getting relegated.
I tend to get us finishing about 14th and finishing with 38 or 39 points.
I can see all sorts of teams falling into the mess and survival is always on goal difference with about 34/35 points the deciding amount.
Should we win 3 more games from the 8 we could finish even higher, as I said before, there are quite a few teams who want to join in the scrap.
Stoke
Norwich
West Ham
Sunderland
Wigan
QPR
Reading
This could be the order of the teams below us.
The only ones who might escape are Wigan just avoiding the drop and Stoke waking up and realising just how much trouble they are in.
The games we need to win are;
Reading, away
West Ham, home
Stoke, home.
A draw with Chelsea or anyone else is a bonus.
If we gain 7/8 points in 7 games before the last game, Stoke, we will not go in to that game worrying.
Jesus_02
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10:18am Mon 18 Mar 13
On the last day according to me (for what its worth)
Basically Reading are down and then its two out of the following four
Wigan---------37
Sunderland---36
Villa------------35
QPR-----------34
Alicesdad
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10:19am Mon 18 Mar 13
We should however win three games at least from the eight that remain.
.. and needless to say ....
I predict a riot
swesaint
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10:19am Mon 18 Mar 13
Winman
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10:28am Mon 18 Mar 13
Puddletown Saint
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10:56am Mon 18 Mar 13
Chelski 1pt
Reading 1pt
Spam 3 pt
Spurs 0pt
Swansea 0pt
West Brom 3pt
Sunderland 1pt
Stoke 3pt
12 points Total 43 no worries COYR
St Retford
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10:59am Mon 18 Mar 13
Winman wrote:It would be great to be safe by that game but knowing that if we beat them we'd send them down.
It would be great not to have to go the last game with Stoke knowing that we have to win to stay up...
There's not a football fan in the land that wouldn't thank us for it.
J7junctionseven
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11:16am Mon 18 Mar 13
Puddletown Saint wrote:Chelski 0pt
Great thread:
Chelski 1pt
Reading 1pt
Spam 3 pt
Spurs 0pt
Swansea 0pt
West Brom 3pt
Sunderland 1pt
Stoke 3pt
12 points Total 43 no worries COYR
Reading 1pt
Spam 3 pt
Spurs 0pt
Swansea 1pt
West Brom 1pt
Sunderland 1pt
Stoke 3pt
Total 41pts still no worries IMO COYR
J7junctionseven
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11:19am Mon 18 Mar 13
Sunderland are also on a poor run with 9 points from 30 which is the same as Norwich.
West Ham and Reading are 10 fom 30
Wigan and Villa 12 from 30
Saints, Newcastle and QPR 13 from 30
Our points tally over the last ten games is better than West Broms and the same as Swansea who we still have to play along with Reading, Sunderland, West Ham and Stoke.
I think any team from QPR up to Fulham should be very worried about being involved in a relegation scrap.
COYR FOADP”
warrens 76
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11:22am Mon 18 Mar 13
I felt that if Wigan beat Newcastle it could cause problems as they will probably end up with 37 to 39 points.
Reading and QPR lose their next games then forgive the pun the game is up for them.
We need 42 points to be absolutely out of it...
Being Saints no doubt we will bügger it up somewhere unexpected...
If we beat Chelsea then the momentum will see us safe.
right back in the bar
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11:33am Mon 18 Mar 13
Puddletown Saint wrote:I think 12 pts is the minimum. Like someone else said on this thread, it is the teams that come out to play against us that suit us best. On that basis I see 3 points from the Reading and Sunderland games (on the evidence of yesterday Sunderland are awful and there for the taking) and a score draw at Swansea. The flip side is the game against WBA where they don't have much to play for - just the type of game where might sit back and pick us off (like Sunderland and QPR did at St Mary's). Winning against Stoke will give us a tally of 14pts, but more importantly, with 42pts going into that game, it won't matter.
Great thread:
Chelski 1pt
Reading 1pt
Spam 3 pt
Spurs 0pt
Swansea 0pt
West Brom 3pt
Sunderland 1pt
Stoke 3pt
12 points Total 43 no worries COYR
Five Trophies Between Us
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11:47am Mon 18 Mar 13
come on wigan
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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11:47am Mon 18 Mar 13
It's the games like QPR and Newcastle at home that I hate. We're expected to win and the pressure is on. So I dread Reading away.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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11:52am Mon 18 Mar 13
Twenty Three
They're leaving together
But still it's farewell
And maybe they'll come back
To the league, who can tell?
I guess there are many to blame
They're leaving the ground (leaving the ground)
Golden_Salamander
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11:53am Mon 18 Mar 13
1/ The "pressing of the ball" that has been discussed by everyone from MOTD to Sky, allows us to win the ball higher up the pitch.
2/ Giving "freedom to Morgan" to allow him to make those long runs (Nige always asked him to anchor the midfield) and we are now seeing another side to his game.
3/ The improvement and confidence that he has given to J-Rod to run at the defenders allows him to show off his nature speed at running with the ball.
4/ The flexibility of the three in a 4-2-3-1 system. (With Nige the 3 where usual fixed, i.e. Adam on the left, GR in the middle etc,) but these days those 3 are always interchanging and it is difficult sometimes to work who is playing where.
5/ He has got Luke making a lot more attacking runs, driving through midfield. This is a massive addition to "his game" from the "solid defender" he was in the first half of the season.
6/ Rickie is not becoming "isolated up front" which he sometimes did with Nige and he seems more mobile with his runs (did everyone see the 1st goal on Sat from behind the goal !!! (watch MOTD), RL went one way and J-Rod went to the left, great movement.)
.
I still have a couple of minor concerns, namely :-
1/ Shooting from players like Adam and Jack is poor they need to practice more "shooting along the ground" when the conditions are wet like Saturday.
2/ That "overrated team from up north" on Sat changed their system after about 30 mins (to put the No 10 in the hole behind the front 2 and pulling the WUM/Cheat out to the left wing). This caused us a few problems and it wasn't until we brought on Davis to tighten up in midfield that we sorted out it out A lot could have happened in those 20-30 mins and it seems the players on the field did not react quick enough to the change of system by the oppo.
J7junctionseven
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11:54am Mon 18 Mar 13
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:mong
hail the mighty wigan. they will b t team that send u down.
come on wigan
Confucious
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12:05pm Mon 18 Mar 13
warrens 76
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12:17pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Confucious wrote:Well that's clear as mud..mind you there's nothing dubious about being doubtful as to the extent of indubitability displayed by dubious debaters.
After a lot of thought I've decided we can be absolutely sure that things will remain uncertain. After all, it's irrefutable that we will remain doubtful whilst this unpredictability is so assured and so definitely indefinite. Mistakes will unmistakably be made and inconclusiveness remain incontrovertible. Undoubtedly, doubts over our dependability can be relied upon to question our conviction about the surety of our insecurity before this unresolved inexorable unforeseeableness stops making things so clearly hazy.
legod7
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12:19pm Mon 18 Mar 13
J7junctionseven wrote:Wigwam will be concentrating too much on beating Millwall in the FA Cup semi-final.
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:mong
hail the mighty wigan. they will b t team that send u down.
come on wigan
Look what happened to Birmingham a couple of seasons ago. Beat Arse in the League Cup final and got relegated.
HarrytheHorse33
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12:20pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:Hail the mighty Football League. They will be the team that send you down to the Wessex....Come on FL
hail the mighty wigan. they will b t team that send u down. come on wigan
Block 34
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12:26pm Mon 18 Mar 13
That's approximately the exact way to continue...
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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12:34pm Mon 18 Mar 13
HarrytheHorse33 wrote:Don't forget Channers and his team, they have written them off, I have every faith that he will pull a rabbit from the hat!
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:Hail the mighty Football League. They will be the team that send you down to the Wessex....Come on FL
hail the mighty wigan. they will b t team that send u down. come on wigan
SFCSaint
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12:40pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Puddletown Saint wrote:then youre banking on us not losing a home game and winning 3 of the 4 were bound to lose 1 like we did against QPR im gutted wigan cheated to win yesterday real kick in the **** for us because we havent gained anything after winning a game we were expected to lose!
Great thread:
Chelski 1pt
Reading 1pt
Spam 3 pt
Spurs 0pt
Swansea 0pt
West Brom 3pt
Sunderland 1pt
Stoke 3pt
12 points Total 43 no worries COYR
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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12:44pm Mon 18 Mar 13
The battle to assume control of Portsmouth took a new twist yesterday when it emerged that Keith Harris's consortium has made a £6.3 million bid for Fratton Park, a figure more than double that offered by the Pompey Supporters' Trust (PST).
In a letter to PKF, the club's administrator, dated March 1 that has been passed to The Times, the Harris group says that the cash offer "will take the form of an immediate payment, and will not be dependent on any deferred consideration". PKF is believed to have acknowledged the receipt of the letter but, nearly three weeks later, has given no indication as to whether the offer is under serious consideration.
Balram Chainrai, the former owner, claims that the club owe him £12 million, which is secured by a fixed charge on Fratton Park through his Portpin company. PST has asked for an independent valuation of the stadium and will go before the High Court next month to try to force through the sale to the PST for £3 million. Portpin is believed to be ready to release its security on the stadium if PKF takes up the Harris offer.
The Football League has said that it will consider only the PST offer but the Harris group's eagerness to reopen the deal may complicate matters. Harris, in his role as chairman of Seymour Pierce, the investment bank, has been involved with the club on and off during the recent period of instability, which has caused concern among the fans.
Harris and his fellow investors, Alan Hitchins and Pascal Najadi, have embarked on a charm offensive by offering the PST 15 per cent of the club's shares free of charge and a seat on the board. They have promised a discount of 10 per cent to season ticket-holders and claim that their cash offer will eradicate the club's debt and allow the team to compete in the transfer market as soon as the club come out of administration. The Harris bid also pledges to pay back donations to the PST in full.
It may be a difficult sell. Najadi has infuriated a section of Portsmouth fans by taking legal action against a blogger and there are fears that Harris's proposed deal for Fratton Park is just another way for Portpin to squeeze more money of the club.
Harris denies this. "I have had involvement in the club over the years," he said. "I know its potential. I can get it running properly." The former Football League chairman has indicated that he will take a hands-on role if the bid is successful.
The financial package proposed by Harris offers significant advantages to creditors and will place pressure on PKF and the Football League — neither of whom could be reached for comment last night — to open up the bidding process.
right back in the bar
says...
12:47pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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12:48pm Mon 18 Mar 13
SFCSaint wrote:Of course we have gained although not against Wigan to be fair. Mind you Newcastle are only 2 points ahead of us as a result of the Wigan win so it's not all bad. QPR and Reading are now as good as gone so several teams will fight to avoid the third place and I'm sure we will do enough to stay up. We didn't just beat Liverpool - we played them of the park!
Puddletown Saint wrote:then youre banking on us not losing a home game and winning 3 of the 4 were bound to lose 1 like we did against QPR im gutted wigan cheated to win yesterday real kick in the **** for us because we havent gained anything after winning a game we were expected to lose!
Great thread:
Chelski 1pt
Reading 1pt
Spam 3 pt
Spurs 0pt
Swansea 0pt
West Brom 3pt
Sunderland 1pt
Stoke 3pt
12 points Total 43 no worries COYR
warrens 76
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12:52pm Mon 18 Mar 13
..so far so good, other than QPR and Newcastle we have been the better team in every game since Poochy took over, yet this has not translated to safety not by a blöödy long shot..
We must simply nail everyone put in front of us..I said it the other day and hey presto did we turn up or what..
If I were the Pooch I would demand that this club finishes the season with a positive goal difference..
..we should be plus 10 now with the friggen chances we make even allowing for our defensive frailties..
End up with a positive goal difference we will not go down.....
Concentrate on scoring at every opportunity takes the mind of the points situation...
..when we get one we get more, shall i sing you assembly etc..
warrens 76
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12:56pm Mon 18 Mar 13
I think we will need to beat Stoke to stay up and WILL, let the end of season party commence, again!
J7junctionseven
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1:11pm Mon 18 Mar 13
warrens 76 wrote:If it does go down to the last game I hope Saints and Stoke manage to get to at least 40 points before the game.
Southampton BEING Southampton will not do the easy thing...we need 42 points however I see in the runes 39, not because of ability but just because it is our way..
I think we will need to beat Stoke to stay up and WILL, let the end of season party commence, again!
Wouldn't it be great to play out a boring 0-0 draw and both sets of fans could celebrate on the same day if 41 was the magic number
I remember the Walsall game when we got promoted from League 1 and they stayed up on the same day.
Great atmosphere and both set of fans drinking together after the game
priesters
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1:20pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Does anyone know of anyone who can't go anymore and has 2 tickets for sale?
Thanks,
Adam
fred the red
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1:23pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Anyone from the skate community who really thought that Chanrai would take a mere £3m for his "stake" must live in Cloud Cuckoo Land. The bloke is a businessman not a benefactor. This suggests to me that there will be argument and counter argument before the decision and after with possible appeals etc. Shame that time is not on the side of the PST but then, even if their bid were to succeed, the future is not very bright. Still, neither are skates if they are expecting a renaissance.
And on cue, from The Times:
The battle to assume control of Portsmouth took a new twist yesterday when it emerged that Keith Harris's consortium has made a £6.3 million bid for Fratton Park, a figure more than double that offered by the Pompey Supporters' Trust (PST).
In a letter to PKF, the club's administrator, dated March 1 that has been passed to The Times, the Harris group says that the cash offer "will take the form of an immediate payment, and will not be dependent on any deferred consideration". PKF is believed to have acknowledged the receipt of the letter but, nearly three weeks later, has given no indication as to whether the offer is under serious consideration.
Balram Chainrai, the former owner, claims that the club owe him £12 million, which is secured by a fixed charge on Fratton Park through his Portpin company. PST has asked for an independent valuation of the stadium and will go before the High Court next month to try to force through the sale to the PST for £3 million. Portpin is believed to be ready to release its security on the stadium if PKF takes up the Harris offer.
The Football League has said that it will consider only the PST offer but the Harris group's eagerness to reopen the deal may complicate matters. Harris, in his role as chairman of Seymour Pierce, the investment bank, has been involved with the club on and off during the recent period of instability, which has caused concern among the fans.
Harris and his fellow investors, Alan Hitchins and Pascal Najadi, have embarked on a charm offensive by offering the PST 15 per cent of the club's shares free of charge and a seat on the board. They have promised a discount of 10 per cent to season ticket-holders and claim that their cash offer will eradicate the club's debt and allow the team to compete in the transfer market as soon as the club come out of administration. The Harris bid also pledges to pay back donations to the PST in full.
It may be a difficult sell. Najadi has infuriated a section of Portsmouth fans by taking legal action against a blogger and there are fears that Harris's proposed deal for Fratton Park is just another way for Portpin to squeeze more money of the club.
Harris denies this. "I have had involvement in the club over the years," he said. "I know its potential. I can get it running properly." The former Football League chairman has indicated that he will take a hands-on role if the bid is successful.
The financial package proposed by Harris offers significant advantages to creditors and will place pressure on PKF and the Football League — neither of whom could be reached for comment last night — to open up the bidding process.
right back in the bar
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1:29pm Mon 18 Mar 13
warrens 76 wrote:Got to be more optimistic than that given the remaining fixtures. Safety secured when we beat Sunderland and then no pressure and a great performance against Stoke to finish on 45pts. That allows for draws against Chelsea and Swansea, wins against Reading, WHU and loses against Spurs, WBA.
Southampton BEING Southampton will not do the easy thing...we need 42 points however I see in the runes 39, not because of ability but just because it is our way..
I think we will need to beat Stoke to stay up and WILL, let the end of season party commence, again!
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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1:30pm Mon 18 Mar 13
St Retford
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1:31pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Which is a shame because it would have been six months of ROFLing.
dadofmy3sons
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1:35pm Mon 18 Mar 13
I think it is a win because they will have been totally demoralised the week before with a hammering at Arsenal.
Also the new manager they want will have had 1 week to totally screw up all McDermott's training and have them running helter skelter for their agents and contracts to make sure they don't have a relegation clause.
Also they are at home and have to attack because there is no other option open to them and we will then have the oppurtunity to clear our goal deficit in one game!
Ok, maybe not 10, but I feel that is a win.
As for the Pompey thing.?????
WTF is going on there.
Football League have told Harris to jog on previously and the bellend still tries to muddy the water.
I think an investigation into his money and motives is in order and then a lifetime ban for being a d!ickhead.
I am definitely in the camp of wanting Pompey to survive this current mess, as I have a lot of unused insults saved up for when they fail next season!
HarrytheHorse33
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1:35pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Nice one Seed. The plot thickens...Lets be honest if Poopey was your pet dog, you'd have shot it by now. Hope your right about the rabbit from the hat. Keeps it entertaining!
And on cue, from The Times: The battle to assume control of Portsmouth took a new twist yesterday when it emerged that Keith Harris's consortium has made a £6.3 million bid for Fratton Park, a figure more than double that offered by the Pompey Supporters' Trust (PST). In a letter to PKF, the club's administrator, dated March 1 that has been passed to The Times, the Harris group says that the cash offer "will take the form of an immediate payment, and will not be dependent on any deferred consideration". PKF is believed to have acknowledged the receipt of the letter but, nearly three weeks later, has given no indication as to whether the offer is under serious consideration. Balram Chainrai, the former owner, claims that the club owe him £12 million, which is secured by a fixed charge on Fratton Park through his Portpin company. PST has asked for an independent valuation of the stadium and will go before the High Court next month to try to force through the sale to the PST for £3 million. Portpin is believed to be ready to release its security on the stadium if PKF takes up the Harris offer. The Football League has said that it will consider only the PST offer but the Harris group's eagerness to reopen the deal may complicate matters. Harris, in his role as chairman of Seymour Pierce, the investment bank, has been involved with the club on and off during the recent period of instability, which has caused concern among the fans. Harris and his fellow investors, Alan Hitchins and Pascal Najadi, have embarked on a charm offensive by offering the PST 15 per cent of the club's shares free of charge and a seat on the board. They have promised a discount of 10 per cent to season ticket-holders and claim that their cash offer will eradicate the club's debt and allow the team to compete in the transfer market as soon as the club come out of administration. The Harris bid also pledges to pay back donations to the PST in full. It may be a difficult sell. Najadi has infuriated a section of Portsmouth fans by taking legal action against a blogger and there are fears that Harris's proposed deal for Fratton Park is just another way for Portpin to squeeze more money of the club. Harris denies this. "I have had involvement in the club over the years," he said. "I know its potential. I can get it running properly." The former Football League chairman has indicated that he will take a hands-on role if the bid is successful. The financial package proposed by Harris offers significant advantages to creditors and will place pressure on PKF and the Football League — neither of whom could be reached for comment last night — to open up the bidding process.
St Retford
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1:40pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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1:57pm Mon 18 Mar 13
warrens 76
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2:10pm Mon 18 Mar 13
St Retford wrote:If funds can be proven particularly if placed in the control of administrator IF he so desires then his legal duty to obtain the best offer for creditors would be actionable...
If you're the administrator and you have someone offering six million in cash and someone else offering three million in promises then it would be slightly remiss of you (in your quest to raise funds for creditors) to not at least take the first option very seriously.
..however this Harris would have to make the funds available otherwise it is just another 'offer' which the liquidator can refuse if it is in his opinion serious.
Pmuff unfortunately are victims of their own delusions of grandeur...they are not in any shape or form any more than a mid table championship outfit...
..fanatical supporters or not they are not big enough to carry the debt they hung around themselves...
Like for like...assuming say a top 7 prem finish for Saints or Pmuff with the respective stadium size they would be a Bolton 22000 average..we would be about 38.000 hell of a difference..
Strasbourg Saint
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2:11pm Mon 18 Mar 13
dadofmy3sons wrote:.... and we owe Reading one.
A lot of you have the Reading game as a draw?
I think it is a win because they will have been totally demoralised the week before with a hammering at Arsenal.
Also the new manager they want will have had 1 week to totally screw up all McDermott's training and have them running helter skelter for their agents and contracts to make sure they don't have a relegation clause.
Also they are at home and have to attack because there is no other option open to them and we will then have the oppurtunity to clear our goal deficit in one game!
Ok, maybe not 10, but I feel that is a win.
As for the Pompey thing.?????
WTF is going on there.
Football League have told Harris to jog on previously and the bellend still tries to muddy the water.
I think an investigation into his money and motives is in order and then a lifetime ban for being a d!ickhead.
I am definitely in the camp of wanting Pompey to survive this current mess, as I have a lot of unused insults saved up for when they fail next season!
I'd be quite happy for Reading to stay up ahead of several other clubs down there but not before Rickie and co. have really shown how angry they are that the Championship title was 'stole' from them last season.
warrens 76
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2:12pm Mon 18 Mar 13
warrens 76 wrote:not serious ..I meant to say.
St Retford wrote:If funds can be proven particularly if placed in the control of administrator IF he so desires then his legal duty to obtain the best offer for creditors would be actionable...
If you're the administrator and you have someone offering six million in cash and someone else offering three million in promises then it would be slightly remiss of you (in your quest to raise funds for creditors) to not at least take the first option very seriously.
..however this Harris would have to make the funds available otherwise it is just another 'offer' which the liquidator can refuse if it is in his opinion serious.
Pmuff unfortunately are victims of their own delusions of grandeur...they are not in any shape or form any more than a mid table championship outfit...
..fanatical supporters or not they are not big enough to carry the debt they hung around themselves...
Like for like...assuming say a top 7 prem finish for Saints or Pmuff with the respective stadium size they would be a Bolton 22000 average..we would be about 38.000 hell of a difference..
warrens 76
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2:14pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:I shall Klingon to your final comment¨
A positive thing is that all us Saints fans know all about relegation scraps. We have witnessed quite a few over the years so we know what to expect. Keep positive, stay fully behind the team and sing loud and often. That is our part and it may not sound much but if the players know they have our support and that we are willing them one it can only help. This is no time for moaning and singling individuals out. In the words of someone not forgotten for his part in our amazing experiences over the last few seasons, "TOGETHER AS ONE!!!!!!" COYR!!!!
St Retford
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2:18pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:Totally. We have to ooze confidence onto the pitch, like a sort of goo that flows from our bodies and congeals in an immovable mass.
A positive thing is that all us Saints fans know all about relegation scraps. We have witnessed quite a few over the years so we know what to expect. Keep positive, stay fully behind the team and sing loud and often. That is our part and it may not sound much but if the players know they have our support and that we are willing them one it can only help. This is no time for moaning and singling individuals out. In the words of someone not forgotten for his part in our amazing experiences over the last few seasons, "TOGETHER AS ONE!!!!!!" COYR!!!!
(Anyone who took St Patrick's Day seriously will today be familiar with such a concept, but I mean it in a nicer - more metaphorical - way.)
What I'm basically saying is that if we're nervous it transmits to the players. So we have to show the same mental bravery as the players did on Saturday and really, really believe we're going to stay up. Which we're going to.
szent8
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2:24pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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2:24pm Mon 18 Mar 13
St Retford wrote:I think the skunts will be oozing soon.
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:Totally. We have to ooze confidence onto the pitch, like a sort of goo that flows from our bodies and congeals in an immovable mass.
A positive thing is that all us Saints fans know all about relegation scraps. We have witnessed quite a few over the years so we know what to expect. Keep positive, stay fully behind the team and sing loud and often. That is our part and it may not sound much but if the players know they have our support and that we are willing them one it can only help. This is no time for moaning and singling individuals out. In the words of someone not forgotten for his part in our amazing experiences over the last few seasons, "TOGETHER AS ONE!!!!!!" COYR!!!!
(Anyone who took St Patrick's Day seriously will today be familiar with such a concept, but I mean it in a nicer - more metaphorical - way.)
What I'm basically saying is that if we're nervous it transmits to the players. So we have to show the same mental bravery as the players did on Saturday and really, really believe we're going to stay up. Which we're going to.
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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2:25pm Mon 18 Mar 13
warrens 76 wrote:yes, and to all Skunts:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:I shall Klingon to your final comment¨
A positive thing is that all us Saints fans know all about relegation scraps. We have witnessed quite a few over the years so we know what to expect. Keep positive, stay fully behind the team and sing loud and often. That is our part and it may not sound much but if the players know they have our support and that we are willing them one it can only help. This is no time for moaning and singling individuals out. In the words of someone not forgotten for his part in our amazing experiences over the last few seasons, "TOGETHER AS ONE!!!!!!" COYR!!!!
"Hab SoSlI' Quch!" which roughly translated from Klingon means 'your mother has a smooth forehead'
St Retford
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2:31pm Mon 18 Mar 13
szent8 wrote:You absolute spaztard. Have a word with yourself.
The team that Nigel built, not the 'unwanted one'. Three points is three points but who wouldn't swap these for zero points at home to QPR? Let us hope that Cortese uses the international break to replace the 'unwanted one' with a manager before Pochettino takes us down. George Osborne is managing the economy better! Save Our Saints!!!!
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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2:34pm Mon 18 Mar 13
St Retford wrote:It's a skunt. You know better St Ret!
szent8 wrote:You absolute spaztard. Have a word with yourself.
The team that Nigel built, not the 'unwanted one'. Three points is three points but who wouldn't swap these for zero points at home to QPR? Let us hope that Cortese uses the international break to replace the 'unwanted one' with a manager before Pochettino takes us down. George Osborne is managing the economy better! Save Our Saints!!!!
st1halo
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2:37pm Mon 18 Mar 13
warrens 76 wrote:The problem here is the menage-a-trois.
St Retford wrote:If funds can be proven particularly if placed in the control of administrator IF he so desires then his legal duty to obtain the best offer for creditors would be actionable...
If you're the administrator and you have someone offering six million in cash and someone else offering three million in promises then it would be slightly remiss of you (in your quest to raise funds for creditors) to not at least take the first option very seriously.
..however this Harris would have to make the funds available otherwise it is just another 'offer' which the liquidator can refuse if it is in his opinion serious.
Pmuff unfortunately are victims of their own delusions of grandeur...they are not in any shape or form any more than a mid table championship outfit...
..fanatical supporters or not they are not big enough to carry the debt they hung around themselves...
Like for like...assuming say a top 7 prem finish for Saints or Pmuff with the respective stadium size they would be a Bolton 22000 average..we would be about 38.000 hell of a difference..
The administrators - who have a duty to get the best deal for the creditors but as PFC is a member of the League, are restricted by the rulings of the FA.
Keith Harris - not wanted by the PFC fans or the FA but has the funds to satisfy the requirements.
The FA - their desire to use PFC and others as experiments for supporter run clubs even if it flies in the face of the legal obligations.
Easy solution:
Accept Harris bid and kick PFC out of the league.
Harris gets his club, no liquidation.
Creditors get more of their money.
Administrators fulfill their duty under the law.
The FA don't have to worry about it anymore.
PFC get more money in the coffers.
Oh and we get more laughs watching them play non-league footie!
STID
DisplacedFan
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2:38pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Winman wrote:Didn't we have to win at home to Man Utd many years back to avoid relegation and lost 1-0 with Crouch suspended ? We are a much better team now!
It would be great not to have to go the last game with Stoke knowing that we have to win to stay up...
DisplacedFan
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2:43pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:If it swims like a fish and stinks like a fish.....
St Retford wrote:It's a skunt. You know better St Ret!
szent8 wrote:You absolute spaztard. Have a word with yourself.
The team that Nigel built, not the 'unwanted one'. Three points is three points but who wouldn't swap these for zero points at home to QPR? Let us hope that Cortese uses the international break to replace the 'unwanted one' with a manager before Pochettino takes us down. George Osborne is managing the economy better! Save Our Saints!!!!
saintkenny
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2:44pm Mon 18 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:not sure about that osp liverpool and city both came to pass and outplay us .where as teams like qpr ect will just come to stop us play .but we dont try to stop some of there key players in the lower half of the table.the top 6 will try in outplay you .the others just scrap stop you hit you on the break .apart from villa give them credit for that .for that reason i hope they stay up
We seem to be able to play well against teams that can play decent football, but struggle against those that don't. We have a fortnight to think about how to negate the stars of Chelsea, and of course there is no telling which XI they will be puting out, it depends on their priorities I guess.
CB FRY LIVES
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2:44pm Mon 18 Mar 13
right back in the bar wrote:WE WILL BEAT WBA AND SPURS.NO SWEAT.
warrens 76 wrote:Got to be more optimistic than that given the remaining fixtures. Safety secured when we beat Sunderland and then no pressure and a great performance against Stoke to finish on 45pts. That allows for draws against Chelsea and Swansea, wins against Reading, WHU and loses against Spurs, WBA.
Southampton BEING Southampton will not do the easy thing...we need 42 points however I see in the runes 39, not because of ability but just because it is our way..
I think we will need to beat Stoke to stay up and WILL, let the end of season party commence, again!
COYR
bfsaint
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2:47pm Mon 18 Mar 13
The technology is available and instantaneous so why not use it. If it eradicates 90% of errors made the game will be better for it. If FIFA can allow goal-line technology can someone give me a good reason not to go the whole way.
St Retford
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2:52pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:I know, but even for a skunt this is just embarrassing. I mean, do you remember in the olden days when skunts used to come on and be funny and insightful and their insults would genuinely sting? No, I don't either, but it would be nice if they could raise their game just a little bit for the last month of their existence.
St Retford wrote:It's a skunt. You know better St Ret!
szent8 wrote:You absolute spaztard. Have a word with yourself.
The team that Nigel built, not the 'unwanted one'. Three points is three points but who wouldn't swap these for zero points at home to QPR? Let us hope that Cortese uses the international break to replace the 'unwanted one' with a manager before Pochettino takes us down. George Osborne is managing the economy better! Save Our Saints!!!!
St Retford
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2:53pm Mon 18 Mar 13
bfsaint wrote:I'm glad Wigan won. I'm more interested in overtaking Newcastle than worrying about teams below us.
Isn't it about time football caught up with rugby and cricket and allowed technology to be introduced into the game. If Wigan had been reduced to ten men yesterday, as they should have been with that disgraceful tackle, almost certainly they would have lost, or even drawn after the handball leading to the the winning goal. Imagine the scenario if they now finish one point above Sunderland and Sunderland are relegated; is it sufficient to say that over the season luck evens itself out.
The technology is available and instantaneous so why not use it. If it eradicates 90% of errors made the game will be better for it. If FIFA can allow goal-line technology can someone give me a good reason not to go the whole way.
warrens 76
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2:55pm Mon 18 Mar 13
DisplacedFan wrote:3-1 and none of the fokkers were up for it either...allround a shameful day.
Winman wrote:Didn't we have to win at home to Man Utd many years back to avoid relegation and lost 1-0 with Crouch suspended ? We are a much better team now!
It would be great not to have to go the last game with Stoke knowing that we have to win to stay up...
warrens 76
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2:58pm Mon 18 Mar 13
st1halo wrote:In fairness the Football League have a soft spot for PFC and their wonderful fans which does not exist for the likes of us..make no mistake they will be allowed to survive...even the PM has had a word..
warrens 76 wrote:The problem here is the menage-a-trois.
St Retford wrote:If funds can be proven particularly if placed in the control of administrator IF he so desires then his legal duty to obtain the best offer for creditors would be actionable...
If you're the administrator and you have someone offering six million in cash and someone else offering three million in promises then it would be slightly remiss of you (in your quest to raise funds for creditors) to not at least take the first option very seriously.
..however this Harris would have to make the funds available otherwise it is just another 'offer' which the liquidator can refuse if it is in his opinion serious.
Pmuff unfortunately are victims of their own delusions of grandeur...they are not in any shape or form any more than a mid table championship outfit...
..fanatical supporters or not they are not big enough to carry the debt they hung around themselves...
Like for like...assuming say a top 7 prem finish for Saints or Pmuff with the respective stadium size they would be a Bolton 22000 average..we would be about 38.000 hell of a difference..
The administrators - who have a duty to get the best deal for the creditors but as PFC is a member of the League, are restricted by the rulings of the FA.
Keith Harris - not wanted by the PFC fans or the FA but has the funds to satisfy the requirements.
The FA - their desire to use PFC and others as experiments for supporter run clubs even if it flies in the face of the legal obligations.
Easy solution:
Accept Harris bid and kick PFC out of the league.
Harris gets his club, no liquidation.
Creditors get more of their money.
Administrators fulfill their duty under the law.
The FA don't have to worry about it anymore.
PFC get more money in the coffers.
Oh and we get more laughs watching them play non-league footie!
STID
St Retford
says...
3:00pm Mon 18 Mar 13
warrens 76 wrote:Roy Keane didn't exactly cover himself in glory on that day either.
DisplacedFan wrote:3-1 and none of the fokkers were up for it either...allround a shameful day.
Winman wrote:Didn't we have to win at home to Man Utd many years back to avoid relegation and lost 1-0 with Crouch suspended ? We are a much better team now!
It would be great not to have to go the last game with Stoke knowing that we have to win to stay up...
I'm glad he's been condemned to a life of purgatory. (Or "working for ITV Sport" as it's also known.)
saintkenny
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3:07pm Mon 18 Mar 13
szent8 wrote:skate mong .your not a saints fan .core of the team already here lallana prowse sniderlin shaw k davis .pardew got lambert hammond guly puncheon richardson butterfield fonte 7 players adkins added hoovield cork gaston rodriguez s davis fox de ridder yoshida mayuka clyne gazzinga chaplow 12 players mayuka chaplow fox de ridder in reserve so did not build the team in full .regarding the unwanted one hes played 7 premier league games and has 9 points .so he is saving saints so either your a deluded skunt or your just plain thick .not the latter i dont think
The team that Nigel built, not the 'unwanted one'. Three points is three points but who wouldn't swap these for zero points at home to QPR? Let us hope that Cortese uses the international break to replace the 'unwanted one' with a manager before Pochettino takes us down. George Osborne is managing the economy better! Save Our Saints!!!!
saintkenny
says...
3:13pm Mon 18 Mar 13
warrens 76 wrote:yes but you expect that its always had a tory mp and tory run council .its a tory freshold all of southampton labour most of the time apart from james hill itchen for a few years.before that forgot is name he moved to sdp john denham for 3 terms now the itchen and whitehead 3 terms now
st1halo wrote:In fairness the Football League have a soft spot for PFC and their wonderful fans which does not exist for the likes of us..make no mistake they will be allowed to survive...even the PM has had a word..
warrens 76 wrote:The problem here is the menage-a-trois.
St Retford wrote:If funds can be proven particularly if placed in the control of administrator IF he so desires then his legal duty to obtain the best offer for creditors would be actionable...
If you're the administrator and you have someone offering six million in cash and someone else offering three million in promises then it would be slightly remiss of you (in your quest to raise funds for creditors) to not at least take the first option very seriously.
..however this Harris would have to make the funds available otherwise it is just another 'offer' which the liquidator can refuse if it is in his opinion serious.
Pmuff unfortunately are victims of their own delusions of grandeur...they are not in any shape or form any more than a mid table championship outfit...
..fanatical supporters or not they are not big enough to carry the debt they hung around themselves...
Like for like...assuming say a top 7 prem finish for Saints or Pmuff with the respective stadium size they would be a Bolton 22000 average..we would be about 38.000 hell of a difference..
The administrators - who have a duty to get the best deal for the creditors but as PFC is a member of the League, are restricted by the rulings of the FA.
Keith Harris - not wanted by the PFC fans or the FA but has the funds to satisfy the requirements.
The FA - their desire to use PFC and others as experiments for supporter run clubs even if it flies in the face of the legal obligations.
Easy solution:
Accept Harris bid and kick PFC out of the league.
Harris gets his club, no liquidation.
Creditors get more of their money.
Administrators fulfill their duty under the law.
The FA don't have to worry about it anymore.
PFC get more money in the coffers.
Oh and we get more laughs watching them play non-league footie!
STID
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
says...
3:14pm Mon 18 Mar 13
saintkenny wrote:Both! Definitely both!
szent8 wrote:skate mong .your not a saints fan .core of the team already here lallana prowse sniderlin shaw k davis .pardew got lambert hammond guly puncheon richardson butterfield fonte 7 players adkins added hoovield cork gaston rodriguez s davis fox de ridder yoshida mayuka clyne gazzinga chaplow 12 players mayuka chaplow fox de ridder in reserve so did not build the team in full .regarding the unwanted one hes played 7 premier league games and has 9 points .so he is saving saints so either your a deluded skunt or your just plain thick .not the latter i dont think
The team that Nigel built, not the 'unwanted one'. Three points is three points but who wouldn't swap these for zero points at home to QPR? Let us hope that Cortese uses the international break to replace the 'unwanted one' with a manager before Pochettino takes us down. George Osborne is managing the economy better! Save Our Saints!!!!
warrens 76
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3:22pm Mon 18 Mar 13
bfsaint wrote:What, and no fiddling...I tell you this football today is often to close to call, that handy 'human' decision does'nt half help some clubs out of difficult situations..particul
Isn't it about time football caught up with rugby and cricket and allowed technology to be introduced into the game. If Wigan had been reduced to ten men yesterday, as they should have been with that disgraceful tackle, almost certainly they would have lost, or even drawn after the handball leading to the the winning goal. Imagine the scenario if they now finish one point above Sunderland and Sunderland are relegated; is it sufficient to say that over the season luck evens itself out.
The technology is available and instantaneous so why not use it. If it eradicates 90% of errors made the game will be better for it. If FIFA can allow goal-line technology can someone give me a good reason not to go the whole way.
arly, no, exclusively if they are the G16 group..fükkers.
saintkenny
says...
3:23pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:i think wigan could send qpr down in 2 weeks .both need to win that game only 1 will .wigans game in hand is away to man city not a winnable game for them .so both of them can only get 24 points .so if your saying harry harry to stay up .he has to win that game .so if your saying wigans staying up your sending harry down you cant have it both ways
hail the mighty wigan. they will b t team that send u down.
come on wigan
tell you witch way its reading in qpr and from 2 villa or wigan .were pull away wigan failed to beat us at home .they will pay for that come may if villa get above them .both only just survived last season .but one will drop this time
warrens 76
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3:26pm Mon 18 Mar 13
saintkenny wrote:I am to the right of right of Maggie..however we were condemned to the Dell by succesive Tory council's usually Hampshire County football just was not their thing, you follow.
warrens 76 wrote:yes but you expect that its always had a tory mp and tory run council .its a tory freshold all of southampton labour most of the time apart from james hill itchen for a few years.before that forgot is name he moved to sdp john denham for 3 terms now the itchen and whitehead 3 terms now
st1halo wrote:In fairness the Football League have a soft spot for PFC and their wonderful fans which does not exist for the likes of us..make no mistake they will be allowed to survive...even the PM has had a word..
warrens 76 wrote:The problem here is the menage-a-trois.
St Retford wrote:If funds can be proven particularly if placed in the control of administrator IF he so desires then his legal duty to obtain the best offer for creditors would be actionable...
If you're the administrator and you have someone offering six million in cash and someone else offering three million in promises then it would be slightly remiss of you (in your quest to raise funds for creditors) to not at least take the first option very seriously.
..however this Harris would have to make the funds available otherwise it is just another 'offer' which the liquidator can refuse if it is in his opinion serious.
Pmuff unfortunately are victims of their own delusions of grandeur...they are not in any shape or form any more than a mid table championship outfit...
..fanatical supporters or not they are not big enough to carry the debt they hung around themselves...
Like for like...assuming say a top 7 prem finish for Saints or Pmuff with the respective stadium size they would be a Bolton 22000 average..we would be about 38.000 hell of a difference..
The administrators - who have a duty to get the best deal for the creditors but as PFC is a member of the League, are restricted by the rulings of the FA.
Keith Harris - not wanted by the PFC fans or the FA but has the funds to satisfy the requirements.
The FA - their desire to use PFC and others as experiments for supporter run clubs even if it flies in the face of the legal obligations.
Easy solution:
Accept Harris bid and kick PFC out of the league.
Harris gets his club, no liquidation.
Creditors get more of their money.
Administrators fulfill their duty under the law.
The FA don't have to worry about it anymore.
PFC get more money in the coffers.
Oh and we get more laughs watching them play non-league footie!
STID
...we could have had a new ground back in the 60's but it was constantly stymied...
saintkenny
says...
3:32pm Mon 18 Mar 13
warrens 76 wrote:yes and changing moving stoneham to eastliegh boundary i big reason we never got there in the end **** politics
saintkenny wrote:I am to the right of right of Maggie..however we were condemned to the Dell by succesive Tory council's usually Hampshire County football just was not their thing, you follow.
warrens 76 wrote:yes but you expect that its always had a tory mp and tory run council .its a tory freshold all of southampton labour most of the time apart from james hill itchen for a few years.before that forgot is name he moved to sdp john denham for 3 terms now the itchen and whitehead 3 terms now
st1halo wrote:In fairness the Football League have a soft spot for PFC and their wonderful fans which does not exist for the likes of us..make no mistake they will be allowed to survive...even the PM has had a word..
warrens 76 wrote:The problem here is the menage-a-trois.
St Retford wrote:If funds can be proven particularly if placed in the control of administrator IF he so desires then his legal duty to obtain the best offer for creditors would be actionable...
If you're the administrator and you have someone offering six million in cash and someone else offering three million in promises then it would be slightly remiss of you (in your quest to raise funds for creditors) to not at least take the first option very seriously.
..however this Harris would have to make the funds available otherwise it is just another 'offer' which the liquidator can refuse if it is in his opinion serious.
Pmuff unfortunately are victims of their own delusions of grandeur...they are not in any shape or form any more than a mid table championship outfit...
..fanatical supporters or not they are not big enough to carry the debt they hung around themselves...
Like for like...assuming say a top 7 prem finish for Saints or Pmuff with the respective stadium size they would be a Bolton 22000 average..we would be about 38.000 hell of a difference..
The administrators - who have a duty to get the best deal for the creditors but as PFC is a member of the League, are restricted by the rulings of the FA.
Keith Harris - not wanted by the PFC fans or the FA but has the funds to satisfy the requirements.
The FA - their desire to use PFC and others as experiments for supporter run clubs even if it flies in the face of the legal obligations.
Easy solution:
Accept Harris bid and kick PFC out of the league.
Harris gets his club, no liquidation.
Creditors get more of their money.
Administrators fulfill their duty under the law.
The FA don't have to worry about it anymore.
PFC get more money in the coffers.
Oh and we get more laughs watching them play non-league footie!
STID
...we could have had a new ground back in the 60's but it was constantly stymied...
Confucious
says...
3:33pm Mon 18 Mar 13
St Retford wrote:I did e mail the FA yesterday to suggest that 12 volt electrical conductors be attached to the left testicles of all touchline management including coaches. These could be activated automatically if they strayed from the marked area - or activated manually by the fourth official in the event of a fracas a la yesterday.
bfsaint wrote:I'm glad Wigan won. I'm more interested in overtaking Newcastle than worrying about teams below us.
Isn't it about time football caught up with rugby and cricket and allowed technology to be introduced into the game. If Wigan had been reduced to ten men yesterday, as they should have been with that disgraceful tackle, almost certainly they would have lost, or even drawn after the handball leading to the the winning goal. Imagine the scenario if they now finish one point above Sunderland and Sunderland are relegated; is it sufficient to say that over the season luck evens itself out.
The technology is available and instantaneous so why not use it. If it eradicates 90% of errors made the game will be better for it. If FIFA can allow goal-line technology can someone give me a good reason not to go the whole way.
Martinez of course is a nice guy and I wouldn't wish it upon him, but it would be quite nice to see the likes of Fergie scampering back to the stand with his knacker on fire. No worries about Mauricio as I suggested it be trialed for ten years at all clubs in alphabetical order up to the letter R.
right back in the bar
says...
3:35pm Mon 18 Mar 13
warrens 76 wrote:To think poor old Harry Rednapp will have to go through that again; I feel for him I really do.
DisplacedFan wrote:3-1 and none of the fokkers were up for it either...allround a shameful day.
Winman wrote:Didn't we have to win at home to Man Utd many years back to avoid relegation and lost 1-0 with Crouch suspended ? We are a much better team now!
It would be great not to have to go the last game with Stoke knowing that we have to win to stay up...
saintkenny
says...
3:47pm Mon 18 Mar 13
saintkenny wrote:i only said d a m n and thats a swear word ha ha
warrens 76 wrote:yes and changing moving stoneham to eastliegh boundary i big reason we never got there in the end **** politics
saintkenny wrote:I am to the right of right of Maggie..however we were condemned to the Dell by succesive Tory council's usually Hampshire County football just was not their thing, you follow.
warrens 76 wrote:yes but you expect that its always had a tory mp and tory run council .its a tory freshold all of southampton labour most of the time apart from james hill itchen for a few years.before that forgot is name he moved to sdp john denham for 3 terms now the itchen and whitehead 3 terms now
st1halo wrote:In fairness the Football League have a soft spot for PFC and their wonderful fans which does not exist for the likes of us..make no mistake they will be allowed to survive...even the PM has had a word..
warrens 76 wrote:The problem here is the menage-a-trois.
St Retford wrote:If funds can be proven particularly if placed in the control of administrator IF he so desires then his legal duty to obtain the best offer for creditors would be actionable...
If you're the administrator and you have someone offering six million in cash and someone else offering three million in promises then it would be slightly remiss of you (in your quest to raise funds for creditors) to not at least take the first option very seriously.
..however this Harris would have to make the funds available otherwise it is just another 'offer' which the liquidator can refuse if it is in his opinion serious.
Pmuff unfortunately are victims of their own delusions of grandeur...they are not in any shape or form any more than a mid table championship outfit...
..fanatical supporters or not they are not big enough to carry the debt they hung around themselves...
Like for like...assuming say a top 7 prem finish for Saints or Pmuff with the respective stadium size they would be a Bolton 22000 average..we would be about 38.000 hell of a difference..
The administrators - who have a duty to get the best deal for the creditors but as PFC is a member of the League, are restricted by the rulings of the FA.
Keith Harris - not wanted by the PFC fans or the FA but has the funds to satisfy the requirements.
The FA - their desire to use PFC and others as experiments for supporter run clubs even if it flies in the face of the legal obligations.
Easy solution:
Accept Harris bid and kick PFC out of the league.
Harris gets his club, no liquidation.
Creditors get more of their money.
Administrators fulfill their duty under the law.
The FA don't have to worry about it anymore.
PFC get more money in the coffers.
Oh and we get more laughs watching them play non-league footie!
STID
...we could have had a new ground back in the 60's but it was constantly stymied...
North Wales Saint
says...
3:48pm Mon 18 Mar 13
St Retford
says...
3:52pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Confucious wrote:I think they need to do more to encourage fighting in football. Let's face it: Wigan Vs Newcastle is hardly anyone's idea of a "Super Sunday" but yet throw in a touchline 'fracas' and the sense that it could kick off at any minute and the whole family is suddenly glued to the telly. Fighting's brilliant - everyone loves it.
St Retford wrote:I did e mail the FA yesterday to suggest that 12 volt electrical conductors be attached to the left testicles of all touchline management including coaches. These could be activated automatically if they strayed from the marked area - or activated manually by the fourth official in the event of a fracas a la yesterday.
bfsaint wrote:I'm glad Wigan won. I'm more interested in overtaking Newcastle than worrying about teams below us.
Isn't it about time football caught up with rugby and cricket and allowed technology to be introduced into the game. If Wigan had been reduced to ten men yesterday, as they should have been with that disgraceful tackle, almost certainly they would have lost, or even drawn after the handball leading to the the winning goal. Imagine the scenario if they now finish one point above Sunderland and Sunderland are relegated; is it sufficient to say that over the season luck evens itself out.
The technology is available and instantaneous so why not use it. If it eradicates 90% of errors made the game will be better for it. If FIFA can allow goal-line technology can someone give me a good reason not to go the whole way.
Martinez of course is a nice guy and I wouldn't wish it upon him, but it would be quite nice to see the likes of Fergie scampering back to the stand with his knacker on fire. No worries about Mauricio as I suggested it be trialed for ten years at all clubs in alphabetical order up to the letter R.
Therefore, I propose that everyone in the dug out be made to drink Stella (or, if they're Spanish/South American they can have a can of San Miguel - otherwise known as 'Senorita Beater') and be incentivised to spend the entire match eyeballing their opposite numbers and calling them w@nkers. Sky's viewing figures will ROCKET.
warrens 76
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4:07pm Mon 18 Mar 13
St Retford wrote:Donde esta mis zapatos..
Confucious wrote:I think they need to do more to encourage fighting in football. Let's face it: Wigan Vs Newcastle is hardly anyone's idea of a "Super Sunday" but yet throw in a touchline 'fracas' and the sense that it could kick off at any minute and the whole family is suddenly glued to the telly. Fighting's brilliant - everyone loves it.
St Retford wrote:I did e mail the FA yesterday to suggest that 12 volt electrical conductors be attached to the left testicles of all touchline management including coaches. These could be activated automatically if they strayed from the marked area - or activated manually by the fourth official in the event of a fracas a la yesterday.
bfsaint wrote:I'm glad Wigan won. I'm more interested in overtaking Newcastle than worrying about teams below us.
Isn't it about time football caught up with rugby and cricket and allowed technology to be introduced into the game. If Wigan had been reduced to ten men yesterday, as they should have been with that disgraceful tackle, almost certainly they would have lost, or even drawn after the handball leading to the the winning goal. Imagine the scenario if they now finish one point above Sunderland and Sunderland are relegated; is it sufficient to say that over the season luck evens itself out.
The technology is available and instantaneous so why not use it. If it eradicates 90% of errors made the game will be better for it. If FIFA can allow goal-line technology can someone give me a good reason not to go the whole way.
Martinez of course is a nice guy and I wouldn't wish it upon him, but it would be quite nice to see the likes of Fergie scampering back to the stand with his knacker on fire. No worries about Mauricio as I suggested it be trialed for ten years at all clubs in alphabetical order up to the letter R.
Therefore, I propose that everyone in the dug out be made to drink Stella (or, if they're Spanish/South American they can have a can of San Miguel - otherwise known as 'Senorita Beater') and be incentivised to spend the entire match eyeballing their opposite numbers and calling them w@nkers. Sky's viewing figures will ROCKET.
st1halo
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4:33pm Mon 18 Mar 13
St Retford wrote:Like the sound of that!.I watched the game yesterday but after seeing Saints on saturday it seemed like this game was being played in slow-mo. I must be getting spoilt! The fight definitely livened it up. Let's call it 'DUG-OUT DEATHMATCH' (TM)
Confucious wrote:I think they need to do more to encourage fighting in football. Let's face it: Wigan Vs Newcastle is hardly anyone's idea of a "Super Sunday" but yet throw in a touchline 'fracas' and the sense that it could kick off at any minute and the whole family is suddenly glued to the telly. Fighting's brilliant - everyone loves it.
St Retford wrote:I did e mail the FA yesterday to suggest that 12 volt electrical conductors be attached to the left testicles of all touchline management including coaches. These could be activated automatically if they strayed from the marked area - or activated manually by the fourth official in the event of a fracas a la yesterday.
bfsaint wrote:I'm glad Wigan won. I'm more interested in overtaking Newcastle than worrying about teams below us.
Isn't it about time football caught up with rugby and cricket and allowed technology to be introduced into the game. If Wigan had been reduced to ten men yesterday, as they should have been with that disgraceful tackle, almost certainly they would have lost, or even drawn after the handball leading to the the winning goal. Imagine the scenario if they now finish one point above Sunderland and Sunderland are relegated; is it sufficient to say that over the season luck evens itself out.
The technology is available and instantaneous so why not use it. If it eradicates 90% of errors made the game will be better for it. If FIFA can allow goal-line technology can someone give me a good reason not to go the whole way.
Martinez of course is a nice guy and I wouldn't wish it upon him, but it would be quite nice to see the likes of Fergie scampering back to the stand with his knacker on fire. No worries about Mauricio as I suggested it be trialed for ten years at all clubs in alphabetical order up to the letter R.
Therefore, I propose that everyone in the dug out be made to drink Stella (or, if they're Spanish/South American they can have a can of San Miguel - otherwise known as 'Senorita Beater') and be incentivised to spend the entire match eyeballing their opposite numbers and calling them w@nkers. Sky's viewing figures will ROCKET.
STID
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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5:20pm Mon 18 Mar 13
I think we should mate them.
saintkenny
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5:23pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:notice they both post a different time denying its him .but would not be the first skunt to tell lies even there directors do
FTBU and FewDeadandShite are two fine examples of skuntness. One is agressive, snarling and totally without humour whilst the other is exceptionally simple.
I think we should mate them.
OSPREYSAINT
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5:33pm Mon 18 Mar 13
DisplacedFan wrote:It could be a duck?
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:If it swims like a fish and stinks like a fish.....
St Retford wrote:It's a skunt. You know better St Ret!
szent8 wrote:You absolute spaztard. Have a word with yourself.
The team that Nigel built, not the 'unwanted one'. Three points is three points but who wouldn't swap these for zero points at home to QPR? Let us hope that Cortese uses the international break to replace the 'unwanted one' with a manager before Pochettino takes us down. George Osborne is managing the economy better! Save Our Saints!!!!
Clever Dick
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6:03pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Confucious wrote:Unfortunately this might well aid the Skunts. As they have now, in desperation , taken to supporting Portsmuff Ladies where are the conductors going to be attached?
St Retford wrote:I did e mail the FA yesterday to suggest that 12 volt electrical conductors be attached to the left testicles of all touchline management including coaches. These could be activated automatically if they strayed from the marked area - or activated manually by the fourth official in the event of a fracas a la yesterday.
bfsaint wrote:I'm glad Wigan won. I'm more interested in overtaking Newcastle than worrying about teams below us.
Isn't it about time football caught up with rugby and cricket and allowed technology to be introduced into the game. If Wigan had been reduced to ten men yesterday, as they should have been with that disgraceful tackle, almost certainly they would have lost, or even drawn after the handball leading to the the winning goal. Imagine the scenario if they now finish one point above Sunderland and Sunderland are relegated; is it sufficient to say that over the season luck evens itself out.
The technology is available and instantaneous so why not use it. If it eradicates 90% of errors made the game will be better for it. If FIFA can allow goal-line technology can someone give me a good reason not to go the whole way.
Martinez of course is a nice guy and I wouldn't wish it upon him, but it would be quite nice to see the likes of Fergie scampering back to the stand with his knacker on fire. No worries about Mauricio as I suggested it be trialed for ten years at all clubs in alphabetical order up to the letter R.
warrens 76
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6:06pm Mon 18 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Come on....that would be quackers..
DisplacedFan wrote:It could be a duck?
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:If it swims like a fish and stinks like a fish.....
St Retford wrote:It's a skunt. You know better St Ret!
szent8 wrote:You absolute spaztard. Have a word with yourself.
The team that Nigel built, not the 'unwanted one'. Three points is three points but who wouldn't swap these for zero points at home to QPR? Let us hope that Cortese uses the international break to replace the 'unwanted one' with a manager before Pochettino takes us down. George Osborne is managing the economy better! Save Our Saints!!!!
Simmo13
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6:07pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:Good old five bellies or tellies whatever they calll the knob is back !
hail the mighty wigan. they will b t team that send u down.
come on wigan
Clever Dick
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6:10pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:I don't have a clue about legal matters. Surely if the judge is being asked to put a value on Nottarf he can't possibly arrive at a figure which is less than a bona fide offer already on the table can he? It's not his job to consider the implications as far as the FA or Portsmouth FC are concerned. He just needs to consider it's value to the highest bidder regardless of what they want to use it for. Or put another way. Bye bye Skunts!
And on cue, from The Times:
The battle to assume control of Portsmouth took a new twist yesterday when it emerged that Keith Harris's consortium has made a £6.3 million bid for Fratton Park, a figure more than double that offered by the Pompey Supporters' Trust (PST).
In a letter to PKF, the club's administrator, dated March 1 that has been passed to The Times, the Harris group says that the cash offer "will take the form of an immediate payment, and will not be dependent on any deferred consideration". PKF is believed to have acknowledged the receipt of the letter but, nearly three weeks later, has given no indication as to whether the offer is under serious consideration.
Balram Chainrai, the former owner, claims that the club owe him £12 million, which is secured by a fixed charge on Fratton Park through his Portpin company. PST has asked for an independent valuation of the stadium and will go before the High Court next month to try to force through the sale to the PST for £3 million. Portpin is believed to be ready to release its security on the stadium if PKF takes up the Harris offer.
The Football League has said that it will consider only the PST offer but the Harris group's eagerness to reopen the deal may complicate matters. Harris, in his role as chairman of Seymour Pierce, the investment bank, has been involved with the club on and off during the recent period of instability, which has caused concern among the fans.
Harris and his fellow investors, Alan Hitchins and Pascal Najadi, have embarked on a charm offensive by offering the PST 15 per cent of the club's shares free of charge and a seat on the board. They have promised a discount of 10 per cent to season ticket-holders and claim that their cash offer will eradicate the club's debt and allow the team to compete in the transfer market as soon as the club come out of administration. The Harris bid also pledges to pay back donations to the PST in full.
It may be a difficult sell. Najadi has infuriated a section of Portsmouth fans by taking legal action against a blogger and there are fears that Harris's proposed deal for Fratton Park is just another way for Portpin to squeeze more money of the club.
Harris denies this. "I have had involvement in the club over the years," he said. "I know its potential. I can get it running properly." The former Football League chairman has indicated that he will take a hands-on role if the bid is successful.
The financial package proposed by Harris offers significant advantages to creditors and will place pressure on PKF and the Football League — neither of whom could be reached for comment last night — to open up the bidding process.
Clever Dick
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6:20pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Just as long as you're not asking for a cheque mate. Had to laugh at Fewdead's argument yesterday re clubs in debt. Can't seem to understand that if you have assets you can borrow against them. And if you don't have any assets and large debts to go out of business.
FTBU and FewDeadandShite are two fine examples of skuntness. One is agressive, snarling and totally without humour whilst the other is exceptionally simple.
I think we should mate them.
Clemster
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6:26pm Mon 18 Mar 13
saintkenny wrote:What a load of rubbish Osprey. You don't get to be a Premier League side without playing decent football (I'll except Stoke as the exception - but we only drew with them). We have picked up far more points against teams in bottom half than top which completely goes against your theory of not stopping their players
OSPREYSAINT wrote:not sure about that osp liverpool and city both came to pass and outplay us .where as teams like qpr ect will just come to stop us play .but we dont try to stop some of there key players in the lower half of the table.the top 6 will try in outplay you .the others just scrap stop you hit you on the break .apart from villa give them credit for that .for that reason i hope they stay up
We seem to be able to play well against teams that can play decent football, but struggle against those that don't. We have a fortnight to think about how to negate the stars of Chelsea, and of course there is no telling which XI they will be puting out, it depends on their priorities I guess.
warrens 76
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6:59pm Mon 18 Mar 13
just relax and take it easy,
..Our team is young and they have so much to learn..
..How can I try to explain when the Skunts they won't listen but we will still be here tomorrow but those skates will not...etc
Yousef Islam..may the camels protect him AKA Cat Stevens..
We are going places..songs of places we are going pleese.
Confucious
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7:11pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:This is an appalling idea.
FTBU and FewDeadandShite are two fine examples of skuntness. One is agressive, snarling and totally without humour whilst the other is exceptionally simple.
I think we should mate them.
Skates lay millions of eggs a year and I can assure you they are nothing remotely like that delicious Caspian sea Caviar.
For some years and at great cost the military, scientists were trying to develop 'the worst smell in the world'. But as Brig Rupert Thornby wrote in his memoir:
"We just couldn't make what we needed, but then one day we read in a Southampton newspaper that the pong in and around Fratton Park in Portsmouth was unbearable.
"We sent a team down there and found the source was skate eggs. We immediately captured 400 skates and took them back to our sealed laboratory and collected their eggs."
"These were then put into grenades which ever since have been used in Afghanistan to great effect. They are thrown into dark caves where the Taliban are hiding and after one whiff of the paint-peelingly hideous smell, they surrender."
"Fortunately, although skates lay millions of eggs, most of them are eaten by other skates. Otherwise the entire South of England would be uninhabitable."
OSPREYSAINT
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7:23pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Clemster wrote:All very well, but I didn't say that did I. I was refering to the last half a dozen games, we beat Man City and Liverpool, both teams that play good open football, we lost against QPR and Newcastle who didn't.
saintkenny wrote:What a load of rubbish Osprey. You don't get to be a Premier League side without playing decent football (I'll except Stoke as the exception - but we only drew with them). We have picked up far more points against teams in bottom half than top which completely goes against your theory of not stopping their players
OSPREYSAINT wrote:not sure about that osp liverpool and city both came to pass and outplay us .where as teams like qpr ect will just come to stop us play .but we dont try to stop some of there key players in the lower half of the table.the top 6 will try in outplay you .the others just scrap stop you hit you on the break .apart from villa give them credit for that .for that reason i hope they stay up
We seem to be able to play well against teams that can play decent football, but struggle against those that don't. We have a fortnight to think about how to negate the stars of Chelsea, and of course there is no telling which XI they will be puting out, it depends on their priorities I guess.
Clemster
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7:26pm Mon 18 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Of course you were only referring to the last six games(?!?!).Newcastl
Clemster wrote:All very well, but I didn't say that did I. I was refering to the last half a dozen games, we beat Man City and Liverpool, both teams that play good open football, we lost against QPR and Newcastle who didn't.
saintkenny wrote:What a load of rubbish Osprey. You don't get to be a Premier League side without playing decent football (I'll except Stoke as the exception - but we only drew with them). We have picked up far more points against teams in bottom half than top which completely goes against your theory of not stopping their players
OSPREYSAINT wrote:not sure about that osp liverpool and city both came to pass and outplay us .where as teams like qpr ect will just come to stop us play .but we dont try to stop some of there key players in the lower half of the table.the top 6 will try in outplay you .the others just scrap stop you hit you on the break .apart from villa give them credit for that .for that reason i hope they stay up
We seem to be able to play well against teams that can play decent football, but struggle against those that don't. We have a fortnight to think about how to negate the stars of Chelsea, and of course there is no telling which XI they will be puting out, it depends on their priorities I guess.
e I would say try to play very good open football. As do Norwich at home and Man Utd aren't too bad either come to mention it.
OSPREYSAINT
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7:26pm Mon 18 Mar 13
warrens 76 wrote:Some people like Cormorants others prefer a Shag.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Come on....that would be quackers..
DisplacedFan wrote:It could be a duck?
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:If it swims like a fish and stinks like a fish.....
St Retford wrote:It's a skunt. You know better St Ret!
szent8 wrote:You absolute spaztard. Have a word with yourself.
The team that Nigel built, not the 'unwanted one'. Three points is three points but who wouldn't swap these for zero points at home to QPR? Let us hope that Cortese uses the international break to replace the 'unwanted one' with a manager before Pochettino takes us down. George Osborne is managing the economy better! Save Our Saints!!!!
OSPREYSAINT
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7:29pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Clemster wrote:Newcastle did well and Norwich didn't on this last occasion. Manure aren't bad? Well who would have guessed that?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Of course you were only referring to the last six games(?!?!).Newcastl
Clemster wrote:All very well, but I didn't say that did I. I was refering to the last half a dozen games, we beat Man City and Liverpool, both teams that play good open football, we lost against QPR and Newcastle who didn't.
saintkenny wrote:What a load of rubbish Osprey. You don't get to be a Premier League side without playing decent football (I'll except Stoke as the exception - but we only drew with them). We have picked up far more points against teams in bottom half than top which completely goes against your theory of not stopping their players
OSPREYSAINT wrote:not sure about that osp liverpool and city both came to pass and outplay us .where as teams like qpr ect will just come to stop us play .but we dont try to stop some of there key players in the lower half of the table.the top 6 will try in outplay you .the others just scrap stop you hit you on the break .apart from villa give them credit for that .for that reason i hope they stay up
We seem to be able to play well against teams that can play decent football, but struggle against those that don't. We have a fortnight to think about how to negate the stars of Chelsea, and of course there is no telling which XI they will be puting out, it depends on their priorities I guess.
e I would say try to play very good open football. As do Norwich at home and Man Utd aren't too bad either come to mention it.
Clemster
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7:40pm Mon 18 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:So agreed then that complete rubbish that we only play well against teams that play good open football.
Clemster wrote:Newcastle did well and Norwich didn't on this last occasion. Manure aren't bad? Well who would have guessed that?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Of course you were only referring to the last six games(?!?!).Newcastl
Clemster wrote:All very well, but I didn't say that did I. I was refering to the last half a dozen games, we beat Man City and Liverpool, both teams that play good open football, we lost against QPR and Newcastle who didn't.
saintkenny wrote:What a load of rubbish Osprey. You don't get to be a Premier League side without playing decent football (I'll except Stoke as the exception - but we only drew with them). We have picked up far more points against teams in bottom half than top which completely goes against your theory of not stopping their players
OSPREYSAINT wrote:not sure about that osp liverpool and city both came to pass and outplay us .where as teams like qpr ect will just come to stop us play .but we dont try to stop some of there key players in the lower half of the table.the top 6 will try in outplay you .the others just scrap stop you hit you on the break .apart from villa give them credit for that .for that reason i hope they stay up
We seem to be able to play well against teams that can play decent football, but struggle against those that don't. We have a fortnight to think about how to negate the stars of Chelsea, and of course there is no telling which XI they will be puting out, it depends on their priorities I guess.
e I would say try to play very good open football. As do Norwich at home and Man Utd aren't too bad either come to mention it.
OSPREYSAINT
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7:43pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Clemster wrote:OK if you say so, it wasn't actually my opinion, I saw it on another site and thought it would be interesting to sound out an opinion on here amongst more erudite posters, I'll nip back and tell him the results of our convesation, thanks for the input.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:So agreed then that complete rubbish that we only play well against teams that play good open football.
Clemster wrote:Newcastle did well and Norwich didn't on this last occasion. Manure aren't bad? Well who would have guessed that?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Of course you were only referring to the last six games(?!?!).Newcastl
Clemster wrote:All very well, but I didn't say that did I. I was refering to the last half a dozen games, we beat Man City and Liverpool, both teams that play good open football, we lost against QPR and Newcastle who didn't.
saintkenny wrote:What a load of rubbish Osprey. You don't get to be a Premier League side without playing decent football (I'll except Stoke as the exception - but we only drew with them). We have picked up far more points against teams in bottom half than top which completely goes against your theory of not stopping their players
OSPREYSAINT wrote:not sure about that osp liverpool and city both came to pass and outplay us .where as teams like qpr ect will just come to stop us play .but we dont try to stop some of there key players in the lower half of the table.the top 6 will try in outplay you .the others just scrap stop you hit you on the break .apart from villa give them credit for that .for that reason i hope they stay up
We seem to be able to play well against teams that can play decent football, but struggle against those that don't. We have a fortnight to think about how to negate the stars of Chelsea, and of course there is no telling which XI they will be puting out, it depends on their priorities I guess.
e I would say try to play very good open football. As do Norwich at home and Man Utd aren't too bad either come to mention it.
Clemster
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7:46pm Mon 18 Mar 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:For the love of God! Can't you have your own opinion?
Clemster wrote:OK if you say so, it wasn't actually my opinion, I saw it on another site and thought it would be interesting to sound out an opinion on here amongst more erudite posters, I'll nip back and tell him the results of our convesation, thanks for the input.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:So agreed then that complete rubbish that we only play well against teams that play good open football.
Clemster wrote:Newcastle did well and Norwich didn't on this last occasion. Manure aren't bad? Well who would have guessed that?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Of course you were only referring to the last six games(?!?!).Newcastl
Clemster wrote:All very well, but I didn't say that did I. I was refering to the last half a dozen games, we beat Man City and Liverpool, both teams that play good open football, we lost against QPR and Newcastle who didn't.
saintkenny wrote:What a load of rubbish Osprey. You don't get to be a Premier League side without playing decent football (I'll except Stoke as the exception - but we only drew with them). We have picked up far more points against teams in bottom half than top which completely goes against your theory of not stopping their players
OSPREYSAINT wrote:not sure about that osp liverpool and city both came to pass and outplay us .where as teams like qpr ect will just come to stop us play .but we dont try to stop some of there key players in the lower half of the table.the top 6 will try in outplay you .the others just scrap stop you hit you on the break .apart from villa give them credit for that .for that reason i hope they stay up
We seem to be able to play well against teams that can play decent football, but struggle against those that don't. We have a fortnight to think about how to negate the stars of Chelsea, and of course there is no telling which XI they will be puting out, it depends on their priorities I guess.
e I would say try to play very good open football. As do Norwich at home and Man Utd aren't too bad either come to mention it.
Just for the record these are my words and not ones taken from another site to sound out on this one.
OSPREYSAINT
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7:57pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Clemster wrote:Well, before I was able to reply, they have started a whole new thread on tactics and formation, I am getting confused as they are saying the same thing all over again but saying we need a Plan B to counteract teams that don't play open football, I will keep my own opinion on hold and see what pans out. It's going to be a long fortnight without any real football to discuss. Hopefully the skate dilema will keep us amused.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:For the love of God! Can't you have your own opinion?
Clemster wrote:OK if you say so, it wasn't actually my opinion, I saw it on another site and thought it would be interesting to sound out an opinion on here amongst more erudite posters, I'll nip back and tell him the results of our convesation, thanks for the input.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:So agreed then that complete rubbish that we only play well against teams that play good open football.
Clemster wrote:Newcastle did well and Norwich didn't on this last occasion. Manure aren't bad? Well who would have guessed that?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Of course you were only referring to the last six games(?!?!).Newcastl
Clemster wrote:All very well, but I didn't say that did I. I was refering to the last half a dozen games, we beat Man City and Liverpool, both teams that play good open football, we lost against QPR and Newcastle who didn't.
saintkenny wrote:What a load of rubbish Osprey. You don't get to be a Premier League side without playing decent football (I'll except Stoke as the exception - but we only drew with them). We have picked up far more points against teams in bottom half than top which completely goes against your theory of not stopping their players
OSPREYSAINT wrote:not sure about that osp liverpool and city both came to pass and outplay us .where as teams like qpr ect will just come to stop us play .but we dont try to stop some of there key players in the lower half of the table.the top 6 will try in outplay you .the others just scrap stop you hit you on the break .apart from villa give them credit for that .for that reason i hope they stay up
We seem to be able to play well against teams that can play decent football, but struggle against those that don't. We have a fortnight to think about how to negate the stars of Chelsea, and of course there is no telling which XI they will be puting out, it depends on their priorities I guess.
e I would say try to play very good open football. As do Norwich at home and Man Utd aren't too bad either come to mention it.
Just for the record these are my words and not ones taken from another site to sound out on this one.
OSPREYSAINT
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8:10pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Clemster wrote:As a matter of fact someone agrees with your view, saying that we played the same against both kinds of team the only difference was that we didn't take the chances when we should have, but also is saying that the Newcastle game was a freak result, more down to luck than a better side. Each to their own, I am moving towards your side of the argument now.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:For the love of God! Can't you have your own opinion?
Clemster wrote:OK if you say so, it wasn't actually my opinion, I saw it on another site and thought it would be interesting to sound out an opinion on here amongst more erudite posters, I'll nip back and tell him the results of our convesation, thanks for the input.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:So agreed then that complete rubbish that we only play well against teams that play good open football.
Clemster wrote:Newcastle did well and Norwich didn't on this last occasion. Manure aren't bad? Well who would have guessed that?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Of course you were only referring to the last six games(?!?!).Newcastl
Clemster wrote:All very well, but I didn't say that did I. I was refering to the last half a dozen games, we beat Man City and Liverpool, both teams that play good open football, we lost against QPR and Newcastle who didn't.
saintkenny wrote:What a load of rubbish Osprey. You don't get to be a Premier League side without playing decent football (I'll except Stoke as the exception - but we only drew with them). We have picked up far more points against teams in bottom half than top which completely goes against your theory of not stopping their players
OSPREYSAINT wrote:not sure about that osp liverpool and city both came to pass and outplay us .where as teams like qpr ect will just come to stop us play .but we dont try to stop some of there key players in the lower half of the table.the top 6 will try in outplay you .the others just scrap stop you hit you on the break .apart from villa give them credit for that .for that reason i hope they stay up
We seem to be able to play well against teams that can play decent football, but struggle against those that don't. We have a fortnight to think about how to negate the stars of Chelsea, and of course there is no telling which XI they will be puting out, it depends on their priorities I guess.
e I would say try to play very good open football. As do Norwich at home and Man Utd aren't too bad either come to mention it.
Just for the record these are my words and not ones taken from another site to sound out on this one.
Baddesley Bill
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8:14pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Mating them is wrong on so many levels. Darwin would be turning in his grave...
FTBU and FewDeadandShite are two fine examples of skuntness. One is agressive, snarling and totally without humour whilst the other is exceptionally simple.
I think we should mate them.
...I'd make an exception for bear baiting them though! :O)
SFCOLDBOY
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8:32pm Mon 18 Mar 13
warrens 76 wrote:Thats easy for you to say!
Confucious wrote:Well that's clear as mud..mind you there's nothing dubious about being doubtful as to the extent of indubitability displayed by dubious debaters.
After a lot of thought I've decided we can be absolutely sure that things will remain uncertain. After all, it's irrefutable that we will remain doubtful whilst this unpredictability is so assured and so definitely indefinite. Mistakes will unmistakably be made and inconclusiveness remain incontrovertible. Undoubtedly, doubts over our dependability can be relied upon to question our conviction about the surety of our insecurity before this unresolved inexorable unforeseeableness stops making things so clearly hazy.
boilerman
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8:44pm Mon 18 Mar 13
warrens 76 wrote:If my memory serves me, didn't Harry play 5 or 6 guys who were walking away from Saints after the game, so who didn't give a toss.
DisplacedFan wrote:3-1 and none of the fokkers were up for it either...allround a shameful day.
Winman wrote:Didn't we have to win at home to Man Utd many years back to avoid relegation and lost 1-0 with Crouch suspended ? We are a much better team now!
It would be great not to have to go the last game with Stoke knowing that we have to win to stay up...
I said at the time he should have played players who were staying and who had something to play for.
Lets all hope QPR go down just to finally put an end to the Redknap myth.
OSPREYSAINT
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8:57pm Mon 18 Mar 13
http://www.saintsfc.
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Sally Hamilton Original
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9:01pm Mon 18 Mar 13
mack chinnon
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9:02pm Mon 18 Mar 13
saintkenny wrote:We should have been at the Toys-r-us site years ago when we had the chance.
warrens 76 wrote:yes and changing moving stoneham to eastliegh boundary i big reason we never got there in the end **** politics
saintkenny wrote:I am to the right of right of Maggie..however we were condemned to the Dell by succesive Tory council's usually Hampshire County football just was not their thing, you follow.
warrens 76 wrote:yes but you expect that its always had a tory mp and tory run council .its a tory freshold all of southampton labour most of the time apart from james hill itchen for a few years.before that forgot is name he moved to sdp john denham for 3 terms now the itchen and whitehead 3 terms now
st1halo wrote:In fairness the Football League have a soft spot for PFC and their wonderful fans which does not exist for the likes of us..make no mistake they will be allowed to survive...even the PM has had a word..
warrens 76 wrote:The problem here is the menage-a-trois.
St Retford wrote:If funds can be proven particularly if placed in the control of administrator IF he so desires then his legal duty to obtain the best offer for creditors would be actionable...
If you're the administrator and you have someone offering six million in cash and someone else offering three million in promises then it would be slightly remiss of you (in your quest to raise funds for creditors) to not at least take the first option very seriously.
..however this Harris would have to make the funds available otherwise it is just another 'offer' which the liquidator can refuse if it is in his opinion serious.
Pmuff unfortunately are victims of their own delusions of grandeur...they are not in any shape or form any more than a mid table championship outfit...
..fanatical supporters or not they are not big enough to carry the debt they hung around themselves...
Like for like...assuming say a top 7 prem finish for Saints or Pmuff with the respective stadium size they would be a Bolton 22000 average..we would be about 38.000 hell of a difference..
The administrators - who have a duty to get the best deal for the creditors but as PFC is a member of the League, are restricted by the rulings of the FA.
Keith Harris - not wanted by the PFC fans or the FA but has the funds to satisfy the requirements.
The FA - their desire to use PFC and others as experiments for supporter run clubs even if it flies in the face of the legal obligations.
Easy solution:
Accept Harris bid and kick PFC out of the league.
Harris gets his club, no liquidation.
Creditors get more of their money.
Administrators fulfill their duty under the law.
The FA don't have to worry about it anymore.
PFC get more money in the coffers.
Oh and we get more laughs watching them play non-league footie!
STID
...we could have had a new ground back in the 60's but it was constantly stymied...
OSPREYSAINT
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9:09pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:If Comet ISON collides with the Earth it won't matter anyhow.
I do not understand why we have taken a giant leap towards safety. Yes we have pulled other teams in which is great, because if we win against Chelsea we could go up to 14th... However, if Wigan win their game in hand we are 1 point clear if relegation. I think 3 wins and a draw could do it.. Thoughts?!
TheSaintsMan
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9:18pm Mon 18 Mar 13
saintkenny
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10:06pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:maybe its because wigans game in hand is villa .but we did gain on the bottom 2 .the match between qpr wigan could decide a lot .but theres only 24 points left and we have 8 points on the bottom 2 .chelsea is another game were not expected to win points out of that would be a bonus ,but if we did not win saturday we would still be close to the bottom 2 .so going from 3places to 1 we drop in is progress .villa and wigan only just survived last season .looking at it now how important is the double over villa draw at wigan .massive points those
I do not understand why we have taken a giant leap towards safety. Yes we have pulled other teams in which is great, because if we win against Chelsea we could go up to 14th... However, if Wigan win their game in hand we are 1 point clear if relegation. I think 3 wins and a draw could do it.. Thoughts?!
slugger
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10:25pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Not a good idea , it's happened already after a few of the fish fanciers were sent to the colonies ....... end result the duck billed platypus , probably the the most primitive mammal on the planet , be careful what you wish for !
FTBU and FewDeadandShite are two fine examples of skuntness. One is agressive, snarling and totally without humour whilst the other is exceptionally simple.
I think we should mate them.
OSPREYSAINT
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11:03pm Mon 18 Mar 13
st1halo
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11:12pm Mon 18 Mar 13
slugger wrote:It's been done here too in the early 50's. The first result from mating skates was that pin-up girl Helen Worth from Corrie (Gail). The scientists were desperate to get a male offspring of this thoroughbread mix and voila! The male model Shane McGowan arrived.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Not a good idea , it's happened already after a few of the fish fanciers were sent to the colonies ....... end result the duck billed platypus , probably the the most primitive mammal on the planet , be careful what you wish for !
FTBU and FewDeadandShite are two fine examples of skuntness. One is agressive, snarling and totally without humour whilst the other is exceptionally simple.
I think we should mate them.
Eat sh1t Frankenstein!
STID
OSPREYSAINT
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8:45am Tue 19 Mar 13
mack chinnon wrote:Throwing our toys out of the Pram you mean? Imagine the traffic problems that would have created!
saintkenny wrote:We should have been at the Toys-r-us site years ago when we had the chance.
warrens 76 wrote:yes and changing moving stoneham to eastliegh boundary i big reason we never got there in the end **** politics
saintkenny wrote:I am to the right of right of Maggie..however we were condemned to the Dell by succesive Tory council's usually Hampshire County football just was not their thing, you follow.
warrens 76 wrote:yes but you expect that its always had a tory mp and tory run council .its a tory freshold all of southampton labour most of the time apart from james hill itchen for a few years.before that forgot is name he moved to sdp john denham for 3 terms now the itchen and whitehead 3 terms now
st1halo wrote:In fairness the Football League have a soft spot for PFC and their wonderful fans which does not exist for the likes of us..make no mistake they will be allowed to survive...even the PM has had a word..
warrens 76 wrote:The problem here is the menage-a-trois.
St Retford wrote:If funds can be proven particularly if placed in the control of administrator IF he so desires then his legal duty to obtain the best offer for creditors would be actionable...
If you're the administrator and you have someone offering six million in cash and someone else offering three million in promises then it would be slightly remiss of you (in your quest to raise funds for creditors) to not at least take the first option very seriously.
..however this Harris would have to make the funds available otherwise it is just another 'offer' which the liquidator can refuse if it is in his opinion serious.
Pmuff unfortunately are victims of their own delusions of grandeur...they are not in any shape or form any more than a mid table championship outfit...
..fanatical supporters or not they are not big enough to carry the debt they hung around themselves...
Like for like...assuming say a top 7 prem finish for Saints or Pmuff with the respective stadium size they would be a Bolton 22000 average..we would be about 38.000 hell of a difference..
The administrators - who have a duty to get the best deal for the creditors but as PFC is a member of the League, are restricted by the rulings of the FA.
Keith Harris - not wanted by the PFC fans or the FA but has the funds to satisfy the requirements.
The FA - their desire to use PFC and others as experiments for supporter run clubs even if it flies in the face of the legal obligations.
Easy solution:
Accept Harris bid and kick PFC out of the league.
Harris gets his club, no liquidation.
Creditors get more of their money.
Administrators fulfill their duty under the law.
The FA don't have to worry about it anymore.
PFC get more money in the coffers.
Oh and we get more laughs watching them play non-league footie!
STID
...we could have had a new ground back in the 60's but it was constantly stymied...
mbetts
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11:23am Wed 20 Mar 13
HarrytheHorse33 wrote:If poopey was my pet dog, i'd have shot it when I first got it!
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:Nice one Seed. The plot thickens...Lets be honest if Poopey was your pet dog, you'd have shot it by now. Hope your right about the rabbit from the hat. Keeps it entertaining!
And on cue, from The Times: The battle to assume control of Portsmouth took a new twist yesterday when it emerged that Keith Harris's consortium has made a £6.3 million bid for Fratton Park, a figure more than double that offered by the Pompey Supporters' Trust (PST). In a letter to PKF, the club's administrator, dated March 1 that has been passed to The Times, the Harris group says that the cash offer "will take the form of an immediate payment, and will not be dependent on any deferred consideration". PKF is believed to have acknowledged the receipt of the letter but, nearly three weeks later, has given no indication as to whether the offer is under serious consideration. Balram Chainrai, the former owner, claims that the club owe him £12 million, which is secured by a fixed charge on Fratton Park through his Portpin company. PST has asked for an independent valuation of the stadium and will go before the High Court next month to try to force through the sale to the PST for £3 million. Portpin is believed to be ready to release its security on the stadium if PKF takes up the Harris offer. The Football League has said that it will consider only the PST offer but the Harris group's eagerness to reopen the deal may complicate matters. Harris, in his role as chairman of Seymour Pierce, the investment bank, has been involved with the club on and off during the recent period of instability, which has caused concern among the fans. Harris and his fellow investors, Alan Hitchins and Pascal Najadi, have embarked on a charm offensive by offering the PST 15 per cent of the club's shares free of charge and a seat on the board. They have promised a discount of 10 per cent to season ticket-holders and claim that their cash offer will eradicate the club's debt and allow the team to compete in the transfer market as soon as the club come out of administration. The Harris bid also pledges to pay back donations to the PST in full. It may be a difficult sell. Najadi has infuriated a section of Portsmouth fans by taking legal action against a blogger and there are fears that Harris's proposed deal for Fratton Park is just another way for Portpin to squeeze more money of the club. Harris denies this. "I have had involvement in the club over the years," he said. "I know its potential. I can get it running properly." The former Football League chairman has indicated that he will take a hands-on role if the bid is successful. The financial package proposed by Harris offers significant advantages to creditors and will place pressure on PKF and the Football League — neither of whom could be reached for comment last night — to open up the bidding process.
Stroppy_gramps
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12:24pm Wed 20 Mar 13
I'd have saved myself the cost of the bullet and let someone else put it down.

OSPREYSAINT says...
9:27am Mon 18 Mar 13