Shaw pulls out of England under-21 squad (From Daily Echo)

Luke we need you for the run in.Thank you for being cautious

Good lad!!

luke is not going to miss the chelsea match ,big fan of the blues dad is a season ticket holder

Lots of chat about spurs looking to make a bid of £8m for him this summer.. No thank you.

good decision. Clearly listening to the physio.

Ignore the rumours, concentrate on the rest of this season

saintkenny wrote:
luke is not going to miss the chelsea match ,big fan of the blues dad is a season ticket holder

Only 40 tickets left for this one!!!!!!

SaintMax wrote:
Lots of chat about spurs looking to make a bid of £8m for him this summer.. No thank you.

I would want more than we got for Bale as I feel he could be just as good, plus he has Premiership experience already. I would also want more than we got for Oxlade-Chamberlain as I feel he is more important to us and is a harder position to fill. Ofcourse I wouldn't want him to leave at all, but £8m is nowhere near the amount required. I expect Cortese's bin will be full by the end of the summer!

SaintMax wrote:
Lots of chat about spurs looking to make a bid of £8m for him this summer.. No thank you.

£8m ?? Do they only want his boots then?

STID

Nice one Luke. Your priority is with us. Can you have a word with Nathaniel Clyne for us as well. A migraine, family reasons, time of the month. Anything will do. International weekends are nothing but a bore anyway. Bring on the Prem.

Internationals are a pain in the butt, they used to work around club now club has to work round them. Ask football fans what matters most club or country when it comes to football and 99% will say club.
Same as European comps should go back to the old format. Home and away leg, no leagues at the beginning or nonsense like that. The cup winners cup should be re instated and football should be played on saturday afternoons.
And yeah I am old, I can remember standing with a four pack on a wet Saturday afternoon on the open terraces. When the old Dell could get 32000 in. Back in the days when Big John ate raw meat and Big Ron scored a header passed Bonnetti like a rocket from outside the box at the Bridge. Lol and you were allowed one sub if a player got injured and it cost around 4 shillings which became 20p to get in.

See below for the all those critical of NC and the contract he had NA ; we could run our club like LFC .......

''Out-of-work Kenny Dalglish will finish the season as Britain's best-paid manager and the fifth highest-paid in the world, new figures from France Football magazine have revealed.

Liverpool accounts showed they were forced to pay off Dalglish and his staff with £9.5 million at the start of the season after deciding to replace him with Brendan Rodgers.

According to the magazine, £8.52m of that went straight into the pocket of the Scotsman, making him this season's highest-paid British coach without even having to manage a single game.''

I can fully understand the possible politics behind Shaw's scan. But I do worry about the number of injuries the boy has had in his debut season, when international calls haven't been looming on the horizon.

george chivers wrote:
I can fully understand the possible politics behind Shaw's scan. But I do worry about the number of injuries the boy has had in his debut season, when international calls haven't been looming on the horizon.

The lad is a rare talent and needs protecting . Trouble is he is so good we want him to play every min. Of every game

milton road wrote:
Internationals are a pain in the butt, they used to work around club now club has to work round them. Ask football fans what matters most club or country when it comes to football and 99% will say club.
Same as European comps should go back to the old format. Home and away leg, no leagues at the beginning or nonsense like that. The cup winners cup should be re instated and football should be played on saturday afternoons.
And yeah I am old, I can remember standing with a four pack on a wet Saturday afternoon on the open terraces. When the old Dell could get 32000 in. Back in the days when Big John ate raw meat and Big Ron scored a header passed Bonnetti like a rocket from outside the box at the Bridge. Lol and you were allowed one sub if a player got injured and it cost around 4 shillings which became 20p to get in.

Surely one of the problems England has always had is the clubs don't co-operate? An American owned Man Utd with a Scottish manager or a Swiss owned Saints with an Argentine manager etc don't give a stuff about the fortunes of England. Yet if you asked MoPo about his greatest memories as a player I bet country comes before club.

He's still a youngster whose body is still developing. I expect the injuries are par for the course, when you consider he is only 17 and playing so far above the level, expected.
Hopefully they will be fewer as he gets older and after a summer of rest, allied to exercises that are designed specifically for him.

arm chair fan wrote:

george chivers wrote:
I can fully understand the possible politics behind Shaw's scan. But I do worry about the number of injuries the boy has had in his debut season, when international calls haven't been looming on the horizon.

The lad is a rare talent and needs protecting . Trouble is he is so good we want him to play every min. Of every game

And he is 17 playing in the Premier League. He's still developing physically. Rightly so the club are very cautious at the first sign of a slight injury. They are protecting what will be a priced asset. Plus it's only the Under 21s. At this stage of the season a complete waste of time for players who have more to worry about doing their day job of getting results for their club.

Do one Spurs he's not for sale!

Stories about Luke always leave me with a tinge of regret.

I'm sure that if as a teenager, I hadn't been so fat, unco-ordinated, short-sighted, lazy and arrogant and hadn't been out every night getting p!ssed and sh@gging, I could have been a top flight footballer.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

milton road wrote:
Internationals are a pain in the butt, they used to work around club now club has to work round them. Ask football fans what matters most club or country when it comes to football and 99% will say club.
Same as European comps should go back to the old format. Home and away leg, no leagues at the beginning or nonsense like that. The cup winners cup should be re instated and football should be played on saturday afternoons.
And yeah I am old, I can remember standing with a four pack on a wet Saturday afternoon on the open terraces. When the old Dell could get 32000 in. Back in the days when Big John ate raw meat and Big Ron scored a header passed Bonnetti like a rocket from outside the box at the Bridge. Lol and you were allowed one sub if a player got injured and it cost around 4 shillings which became 20p to get in.

Surely one of the problems England has always had is the clubs don't co-operate? An American owned Man Utd with a Scottish manager or a Swiss owned Saints with an Argentine manager etc don't give a stuff about the fortunes of England. Yet if you asked MoPo about his greatest memories as a player I bet country comes before club.

Yes, but Portsmouth isn't in his country.

Luke Shaw is a great name. I'm glad he isn't called Walter Posselwaite.

Confucious wrote:
Luke Shaw is a great name. I'm glad he isn't called Walter Posselwaite.

Sure looks that way!

The Final Countdown

Twenty One

They're leaving together
But still it's farewell
And maybe they'll come back
To the league, who can tell?

I guess there are many to blame
They're leaving their ground (leaving their ground)
Will things ever be the same again?

Completely off topic but I cant help thinking about those cheats Wigan!! For starters what an horrendous tackle that should have been a straight red and secondly their 2nd goal was a blatant hand ball. The incompetence of the FA and their Match Officials could really cost someone! Imagine if Wigan were to survive by 1-2 points, how much of an injustice would that be on the Team that were to go down. Joke!

Confucious wrote:
Stories about Luke always leave me with a tinge of regret.

I'm sure that if as a teenager, I hadn't been so fat, unco-ordinated, short-sighted, lazy and arrogant and hadn't been out every night getting p!ssed and sh@gging, I could have been a top flight footballer.

Didn't stop Gazza!

At least you got to referee the 1972 Philosphers Football match at Olympiastadion, that was pretty big, so at least you did better than most of us.

Confucious wrote:
Stories about Luke always leave me with a tinge of regret.

I'm sure that if as a teenager, I hadn't been so fat, unco-ordinated, short-sighted, lazy and arrogant and hadn't been out every night getting p!ssed and sh@gging, I could have been a top flight footballer.

Wow - and I thought I was the only one! Small world...

Dickosfc wrote:
Completely off topic but I cant help thinking about those cheats Wigan!! For starters what an horrendous tackle that should have been a straight red and secondly their 2nd goal was a blatant hand ball. The incompetence of the FA and their Match Officials could really cost someone! Imagine if Wigan were to survive by 1-2 points, how much of an injustice would that be on the Team that were to go down. Joke!

Let it go, it's gone, it's done...

Stuff like this happens every season, in every league in the world.

Sainty saint saint wrote:

Dickosfc wrote: Completely off topic but I cant help thinking about those cheats Wigan!! For starters what an horrendous tackle that should have been a straight red and secondly their 2nd goal was a blatant hand ball. The incompetence of the FA and their Match Officials could really cost someone! Imagine if Wigan were to survive by 1-2 points, how much of an injustice would that be on the Team that were to go down. Joke!

Let it go, it's gone, it's done... Stuff like this happens every season, in every league in the world.

Yeah your right and I know what your saying but we won't be saying that if it was us that went down by a point. How many millions is next season worth

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Stories about Luke always leave me with a tinge of regret.

I'm sure that if as a teenager, I hadn't been so fat, unco-ordinated, short-sighted, lazy and arrogant and hadn't been out every night getting p!ssed and sh@gging, I could have been a top flight footballer.

Wow - and I thought I was the only one! Small world...

I think we may have played in the same Southampton Sunday League Division 6 team!

Dickosfc wrote:

Sainty saint saint wrote:

Dickosfc wrote: Completely off topic but I cant help thinking about those cheats Wigan!! For starters what an horrendous tackle that should have been a straight red and secondly their 2nd goal was a blatant hand ball. The incompetence of the FA and their Match Officials could really cost someone! Imagine if Wigan were to survive by 1-2 points, how much of an injustice would that be on the Team that were to go down. Joke!

Let it go, it's gone, it's done... Stuff like this happens every season, in every league in the world.

Yeah your right and I know what your saying but we won't be saying that if it was us that went down by a point. How many millions is next season worth

Should the unthinkable happen and we finish a point below Wigan in 18th, it would have as much - or more - to do with the late equaliser they scored against us than the way they beat Newcastle.

Anyway, the unthinkable won't happen - Retford says so and I trust him.

So, should the thinkable happen and we finish a point above Newcastle in 10th (helping several on here win a quid or two for their courageous bet that we'd finish in the top half), then we'll be grateful for Wigan's victory over the Toon and be able to forget Foy's Gawd-awful impression of a ref at St James's Park last month.

the leader on the home page of the DE site says Luke was 'forced out'

seriously DE - people are going to click on the link anyway because its Luke Shaw. You don't need to try and entice them in with such lurid descriptions - especially since it's not true.

dreaming of being a national red top again?

Dickosfc wrote:
Completely off topic but I cant help thinking about those cheats Wigan!! For starters what an horrendous tackle that should have been a straight red and secondly their 2nd goal was a blatant hand ball. The incompetence of the FA and their Match Officials could really cost someone! Imagine if Wigan were to survive by 1-2 points, how much of an injustice would that be on the Team that were to go down. Joke!

You're not SFCSaint's twin brother are you? Only he has said exactly the same thing on every thread since Sunday!

STID

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Dickosfc wrote:

Sainty saint saint wrote:

Dickosfc wrote: Completely off topic but I cant help thinking about those cheats Wigan!! For starters what an horrendous tackle that should have been a straight red and secondly their 2nd goal was a blatant hand ball. The incompetence of the FA and their Match Officials could really cost someone! Imagine if Wigan were to survive by 1-2 points, how much of an injustice would that be on the Team that were to go down. Joke!

Let it go, it's gone, it's done... Stuff like this happens every season, in every league in the world.

Yeah your right and I know what your saying but we won't be saying that if it was us that went down by a point. How many millions is next season worth

Should the unthinkable happen and we finish a point below Wigan in 18th, it would have as much - or more - to do with the late equaliser they scored against us than the way they beat Newcastle. Anyway, the unthinkable won't happen - Retford says so and I trust him. So, should the thinkable happen and we finish a point above Newcastle in 10th (helping several on here win a quid or two for their courageous bet that we'd finish in the top half), then we'll be grateful for Wigan's victory over the Toon and be able to forget Foy's Gawd-awful impression of a ref at St James's Park last month.

Thats a good way of looking at it!! I think with game run in's, I think it will be Sunderland that gets dragged deep into it.
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Hopefully (and I'm sure) this won't effect us in the slightest.

st1halo wrote:

Dickosfc wrote: Completely off topic but I cant help thinking about those cheats Wigan!! For starters what an horrendous tackle that should have been a straight red and secondly their 2nd goal was a blatant hand ball. The incompetence of the FA and their Match Officials could really cost someone! Imagine if Wigan were to survive by 1-2 points, how much of an injustice would that be on the Team that were to go down. Joke!

You're not SFCSaint's twin brother are you? Only he has said exactly the same thing on every thread since Sunday! STID

No not me mate, haven't been on here in a few days. I know it's Football but I do feel that the Refs have been way below par this season, weather for or against us!!
.
Anyway onwards and upwards! We're too good a team to go down so for that fact WE WONT!!
.
COYRs

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Stories about Luke always leave me with a tinge of regret.

I'm sure that if as a teenager, I hadn't been so fat, unco-ordinated, short-sighted, lazy and arrogant and hadn't been out every night getting p!ssed and sh@gging, I could have been a top flight footballer.

Wow - and I thought I was the only one! Small world...

I think we may have played in the same Southampton Sunday League Division 6 team!

Show off!

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Stories about Luke always leave me with a tinge of regret.

I'm sure that if as a teenager, I hadn't been so fat, unco-ordinated, short-sighted, lazy and arrogant and hadn't been out every night getting p!ssed and sh@gging, I could have been a top flight footballer.

Wow - and I thought I was the only one! Small world...

I think we may have played in the same Southampton Sunday League Division 6 team!

Show off!

Didn't they get bought up by the Pinnacle consortium last year?

We get stats these days, stats on everything. Not just goals scored, saved or assists but miles covered, passes completed etc.

It would be exceptionally easy to extend this analysis to include the referee. That would show how well he keeps up with the game etc. Also wrong decisions could be analysed and this 'it evens itself out' shitte proved or disproved.

Personally I think clubs like ourselves get far more bad decisions against us than for us and those for us will be against the likes of Villa and Wigan and not Chelsea, Utd or Citeh. My guess, I don't know - which is why I'd like to see the stats.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The Final Countdown

Twenty One

They're leaving together
But still it's farewell
And maybe they'll come back
To the league, who can tell?

I guess there are many to blame
They're leaving their ground (leaving their ground)
Will things ever be the same again?

You should apply to Hallmark cards for a job. I think you could be entering your golden commercial era.

Confucious wrote:
Stories about Luke always leave me with a tinge of regret.

I'm sure that if as a teenager, I hadn't been so fat, unco-ordinated, short-sighted, lazy and arrogant and hadn't been out every night getting p!ssed and sh@gging, I could have been a top flight footballer.

So you are a little like Ashley Cole, then?
Every journey begins with a single step, Confucious.

Dickosfc wrote:

st1halo wrote:

Dickosfc wrote: Completely off topic but I cant help thinking about those cheats Wigan!! For starters what an horrendous tackle that should have been a straight red and secondly their 2nd goal was a blatant hand ball. The incompetence of the FA and their Match Officials could really cost someone! Imagine if Wigan were to survive by 1-2 points, how much of an injustice would that be on the Team that were to go down. Joke!

You're not SFCSaint's twin brother are you? Only he has said exactly the same thing on every thread since Sunday! STID

No not me mate, haven't been on here in a few days. I know it's Football but I do feel that the Refs have been way below par this season, weather for or against us!!
.
Anyway onwards and upwards! We're too good a team to go down so for that fact WE WONT!!
.
COYRs

I agree mate, I can't remember a worse season for refs. They say the modern game, and particularly the PL is getting faster and I don't think the referees can keep up, and it's getting to the point where too much is riding on each game to afford these mistakes. Time for a panel and tv technology imo. It can all be done in real time now so won't infringe on game time particularly.
I'm not one of those for 'this point could send us down' or 'this point could mean staying up'. It could equally apply to any game in a season but I do think the game should be fair and equal and the refereeing accordingly should be as correct as possible.

If the worst happened (and I don't think it will) the PL next season will be the poorer for us not being there as I truly believe it could be a defining time in our history.

STID

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Dickosfc wrote:

Sainty saint saint wrote:

Dickosfc wrote: Completely off topic but I cant help thinking about those cheats Wigan!! For starters what an horrendous tackle that should have been a straight red and secondly their 2nd goal was a blatant hand ball. The incompetence of the FA and their Match Officials could really cost someone! Imagine if Wigan were to survive by 1-2 points, how much of an injustice would that be on the Team that were to go down. Joke!

Let it go, it's gone, it's done... Stuff like this happens every season, in every league in the world.

Yeah your right and I know what your saying but we won't be saying that if it was us that went down by a point. How many millions is next season worth

Should the unthinkable happen and we finish a point below Wigan in 18th, it would have as much - or more - to do with the late equaliser they scored against us than the way they beat Newcastle.

Anyway, the unthinkable won't happen - Retford says so and I trust him.

So, should the thinkable happen and we finish a point above Newcastle in 10th (helping several on here win a quid or two for their courageous bet that we'd finish in the top half), then we'll be grateful for Wigan's victory over the Toon and be able to forget Foy's Gawd-awful impression of a ref at St James's Park last month.

then again j rod dived at villa what goes around comes around move on .villa fans said we cheated otherwise they would be above us

with lundekvam saying this is the best saints teams hes seen .with cluas we had the dell we had a advantage with it on top of the pitch no teams like playing there and the noise from the fans .like frattton park still his today
st marys all teams come love the arena so we dont have that advantage anymore so we have to play better football to win games ,the crowd is still noisy but in the stadium dome its not close to the pitch and its not intimidating for any visting team in that way .so we have to have better quality .thoughts anyone

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We get stats these days, stats on everything. Not just goals scored, saved or assists but miles covered, passes completed etc.

It would be exceptionally easy to extend this analysis to include the referee. That would show how well he keeps up with the game etc. Also wrong decisions could be analysed and this 'it evens itself out' shitte proved or disproved.

Personally I think clubs like ourselves get far more bad decisions against us than for us and those for us will be against the likes of Villa and Wigan and not Chelsea, Utd or Citeh. My guess, I don't know - which is why I'd like to see the stats.

Yes, we chatted about this last week on a thread, whilst Saints were CHARGED and found guilty and fined, by the FA for not controlling their players!! No charge for that disgraceful career-threatening "tackle" though!! Talk about Sweet FA!!

saintkenny wrote:
with lundekvam saying this is the best saints teams hes seen .with cluas we had the dell we had a advantage with it on top of the pitch no teams like playing there and the noise from the fans .like frattton park still his today
st marys all teams come love the arena so we dont have that advantage anymore so we have to play better football to win games ,the crowd is still noisy but in the stadium dome its not close to the pitch and its not intimidating for any visting team in that way .so we have to have better quality .thoughts anyone

I've often thought they should get some acoustics experts in to enhance the support and make it intimidating. The expense would be cheaper than buying a new player and yet might gain us a point or two in a season. Anything that can give you an edge is worth investing in.

STID

st1halo wrote:

saintkenny wrote:
with lundekvam saying this is the best saints teams hes seen .with cluas we had the dell we had a advantage with it on top of the pitch no teams like playing there and the noise from the fans .like frattton park still his today
st marys all teams come love the arena so we dont have that advantage anymore so we have to play better football to win games ,the crowd is still noisy but in the stadium dome its not close to the pitch and its not intimidating for any visting team in that way .so we have to have better quality .thoughts anyone

I've often thought they should get some acoustics experts in to enhance the support and make it intimidating. The expense would be cheaper than buying a new player and yet might gain us a point or two in a season. Anything that can give you an edge is worth investing in.

STID

we could put some seats in closer to the pitch on the sides would make a slight bigger gate ,but eufa rules expanding the pitch my bring a problem .stoke did it .we could give it a try

st1halo wrote:

saintkenny wrote:
with lundekvam saying this is the best saints teams hes seen .with cluas we had the dell we had a advantage with it on top of the pitch no teams like playing there and the noise from the fans .like frattton park still his today
st marys all teams come love the arena so we dont have that advantage anymore so we have to play better football to win games ,the crowd is still noisy but in the stadium dome its not close to the pitch and its not intimidating for any visting team in that way .so we have to have better quality .thoughts anyone

I've often thought they should get some acoustics experts in to enhance the support and make it intimidating. The expense would be cheaper than buying a new player and yet might gain us a point or two in a season. Anything that can give you an edge is worth investing in.

STID

Good point. What was it that Arsene had added to the away dressing room when they built the Emirates? I can't remember. Is it that there's no hot water or something like that? Anyway, every little detail that gives us the home advantage should be investigated.

Maybe Canada and Warrens could provide some of their dogs' offerings for the goal in which we're attacking so that the away goalie feels a little reluctant to dive. Yep, every little helps!

batesieboy wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We get stats these days, stats on everything. Not just goals scored, saved or assists but miles covered, passes completed etc.

It would be exceptionally easy to extend this analysis to include the referee. That would show how well he keeps up with the game etc. Also wrong decisions could be analysed and this 'it evens itself out' shitte proved or disproved.

Personally I think clubs like ourselves get far more bad decisions against us than for us and those for us will be against the likes of Villa and Wigan and not Chelsea, Utd or Citeh. My guess, I don't know - which is why I'd like to see the stats.

Yes, we chatted about this last week on a thread, whilst Saints were CHARGED and found guilty and fined, by the FA for not controlling their players!! No charge for that disgraceful career-threatening "tackle" though!! Talk about Sweet FA!!

Does anyone know if Norwich have been charged? They had a case, but the imprerssion I had is that their players surrounded the ref a la Poch and co.

saintkenny wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Dickosfc wrote:

Sainty saint saint wrote:

Dickosfc wrote: Completely off topic but I cant help thinking about those cheats Wigan!! For starters what an horrendous tackle that should have been a straight red and secondly their 2nd goal was a blatant hand ball. The incompetence of the FA and their Match Officials could really cost someone! Imagine if Wigan were to survive by 1-2 points, how much of an injustice would that be on the Team that were to go down. Joke!

Let it go, it's gone, it's done... Stuff like this happens every season, in every league in the world.

Yeah your right and I know what your saying but we won't be saying that if it was us that went down by a point. How many millions is next season worth

Should the unthinkable happen and we finish a point below Wigan in 18th, it would have as much - or more - to do with the late equaliser they scored against us than the way they beat Newcastle.

Anyway, the unthinkable won't happen - Retford says so and I trust him.

So, should the thinkable happen and we finish a point above Newcastle in 10th (helping several on here win a quid or two for their courageous bet that we'd finish in the top half), then we'll be grateful for Wigan's victory over the Toon and be able to forget Foy's Gawd-awful impression of a ref at St James's Park last month.

then again j rod dived at villa what goes around comes around move on .villa fans said we cheated otherwise they would be above us

That's not what everyone things, Kenny. I happen to agree with you. I think he dived. However, others do have a point when they claim that he pulled his right leg back to avoid 'a MacManaman'.

Alicesdad wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Stories about Luke always leave me with a tinge of regret.

I'm sure that if as a teenager, I hadn't been so fat, unco-ordinated, short-sighted, lazy and arrogant and hadn't been out every night getting p!ssed and sh@gging, I could have been a top flight footballer.

Wow - and I thought I was the only one! Small world...

I think we may have played in the same Southampton Sunday League Division 6 team!

Show off!

Didn't they get bought up by the Pinnacle consortium last year?

I think the team I played for would have been worth more to Watneys had it bought us and wrung us out for the alcoholic content. Our goalie wasn't called Six-pint Charlie for nothing. Had we been in the Sunday Afternoon League, he'd never have made it on to the pitch.

I have a hunch that Confucious was our centre forward.

I'd receive the ball out wide, **** it past the opposing right midfielder, hammer it down the line, out pace the full back and float an inch-perfect cross on to the 6-yard box, where it would harmlessly drift across the box and be cleared just as our fat, unco-ordinated, short-sighted, lazy, arrogant, p!ssed-up, sh@g-crazy centre forward plodded into the box, stubbed out his fag and ambled back to the half-way line.

The engine of our team was Smythers. He was an old fasioned box-to-box midfielder. If he couldn't hack a player off the ball, he'd wait till he had passed it, then chase the little g!t from one box to the other before making sure he could play no further part in the game. Alas, the ref usually took a similar approach towards Smythers who rarely had to be inconvenienced by playing the full 90 minutes.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Alicesdad wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Stories about Luke always leave me with a tinge of regret.

I'm sure that if as a teenager, I hadn't been so fat, unco-ordinated, short-sighted, lazy and arrogant and hadn't been out every night getting p!ssed and sh@gging, I could have been a top flight footballer.

Wow - and I thought I was the only one! Small world...

I think we may have played in the same Southampton Sunday League Division 6 team!

Show off!

Didn't they get bought up by the Pinnacle consortium last year?

I think the team I played for would have been worth more to Watneys had it bought us and wrung us out for the alcoholic content. Our goalie wasn't called Six-pint Charlie for nothing. Had we been in the Sunday Afternoon League, he'd never have made it on to the pitch.

I have a hunch that Confucious was our centre forward.

I'd receive the ball out wide, **** it past the opposing right midfielder, hammer it down the line, out pace the full back and float an inch-perfect cross on to the 6-yard box, where it would harmlessly drift across the box and be cleared just as our fat, unco-ordinated, short-sighted, lazy, arrogant, p!ssed-up, sh@g-crazy centre forward plodded into the box, stubbed out his fag and ambled back to the half-way line.

The engine of our team was Smythers. He was an old fasioned box-to-box midfielder. If he couldn't hack a player off the ball, he'd wait till he had passed it, then chase the little g!t from one box to the other before making sure he could play no further part in the game. Alas, the ref usually took a similar approach towards Smythers who rarely had to be inconvenienced by playing the full 90 minutes.

**** = d i n k

Anyone on here streetwise enough to know why it's been ****ed from my post?

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

saintkenny wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Dickosfc wrote:

Sainty saint saint wrote:

Dickosfc wrote: Completely off topic but I cant help thinking about those cheats Wigan!! For starters what an horrendous tackle that should have been a straight red and secondly their 2nd goal was a blatant hand ball. The incompetence of the FA and their Match Officials could really cost someone! Imagine if Wigan were to survive by 1-2 points, how much of an injustice would that be on the Team that were to go down. Joke!

Let it go, it's gone, it's done... Stuff like this happens every season, in every league in the world.

Yeah your right and I know what your saying but we won't be saying that if it was us that went down by a point. How many millions is next season worth

Should the unthinkable happen and we finish a point below Wigan in 18th, it would have as much - or more - to do with the late equaliser they scored against us than the way they beat Newcastle.

Anyway, the unthinkable won't happen - Retford says so and I trust him.

So, should the thinkable happen and we finish a point above Newcastle in 10th (helping several on here win a quid or two for their courageous bet that we'd finish in the top half), then we'll be grateful for Wigan's victory over the Toon and be able to forget Foy's Gawd-awful impression of a ref at St James's Park last month.

then again j rod dived at villa what goes around comes around move on .villa fans said we cheated otherwise they would be above us

That's not what everyone things, Kenny. I happen to agree with you. I think he dived. However, others do have a point when they claim that he pulled his right leg back to avoid 'a MacManaman'.

but the player did not touch him .with the handball at wigan ,if we had 4 linesman and not one on either side many issues would be solved along with harkeye .the league allows players to be paid 200.000 a week .what the cost of 2 more linesman .the 4th official at the moment is a waste of time .only holds up added time .keeps the managers apart from arguing about bad decisions .yet 2 linesman could sort that .simple

saintkenny wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

saintkenny wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Dickosfc wrote:

Sainty saint saint wrote:

Dickosfc wrote: Completely off topic but I cant help thinking about those cheats Wigan!! For starters what an horrendous tackle that should have been a straight red and secondly their 2nd goal was a blatant hand ball. The incompetence of the FA and their Match Officials could really cost someone! Imagine if Wigan were to survive by 1-2 points, how much of an injustice would that be on the Team that were to go down. Joke!

Let it go, it's gone, it's done... Stuff like this happens every season, in every league in the world.

Yeah your right and I know what your saying but we won't be saying that if it was us that went down by a point. How many millions is next season worth

Should the unthinkable happen and we finish a point below Wigan in 18th, it would have as much - or more - to do with the late equaliser they scored against us than the way they beat Newcastle.

Anyway, the unthinkable won't happen - Retford says so and I trust him.

So, should the thinkable happen and we finish a point above Newcastle in 10th (helping several on here win a quid or two for their courageous bet that we'd finish in the top half), then we'll be grateful for Wigan's victory over the Toon and be able to forget Foy's Gawd-awful impression of a ref at St James's Park last month.

then again j rod dived at villa what goes around comes around move on .villa fans said we cheated otherwise they would be above us

That's not what everyone things, Kenny. I happen to agree with you. I think he dived. However, others do have a point when they claim that he pulled his right leg back to avoid 'a MacManaman'.

but the player did not touch him .with the handball at wigan ,if we had 4 linesman and not one on either side many issues would be solved along with harkeye .the league allows players to be paid 200.000 a week .what the cost of 2 more linesman .the 4th official at the moment is a waste of time .only holds up added time .keeps the managers apart from arguing about bad decisions .yet 2 linesman could sort that .simple

I agree, anything to reduce error and make the final result fairer gets my vote.

Dickosfc wrote:

st1halo wrote:

Dickosfc wrote: Completely off topic but I cant help thinking about those cheats Wigan!! For starters what an horrendous tackle that should have been a straight red and secondly their 2nd goal was a blatant hand ball. The incompetence of the FA and their Match Officials could really cost someone! Imagine if Wigan were to survive by 1-2 points, how much of an injustice would that be on the Team that were to go down. Joke!

You're not SFCSaint's twin brother are you? Only he has said exactly the same thing on every thread since Sunday! STID

No not me mate, haven't been on here in a few days. I know it's Football but I do feel that the Refs have been way below par this season, weather for or against us!!
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Anyway onwards and upwards! We're too good a team to go down so for that fact WE WONT!!
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COYRs

What's the weather got to do with it?

st1halo wrote:

saintkenny wrote:
with lundekvam saying this is the best saints teams hes seen .with cluas we had the dell we had a advantage with it on top of the pitch no teams like playing there and the noise from the fans .like frattton park still his today
st marys all teams come love the arena so we dont have that advantage anymore so we have to play better football to win games ,the crowd is still noisy but in the stadium dome its not close to the pitch and its not intimidating for any visting team in that way .so we have to have better quality .thoughts anyone

I've often thought they should get some acoustics experts in to enhance the support and make it intimidating. The expense would be cheaper than buying a new player and yet might gain us a point or two in a season. Anything that can give you an edge is worth investing in.

STID

the FA cup game when the Northam was emptied of the home fans and given to Chelski Fans meant the Power of the Choir was absent.
Without the Leaders to orchestrate the singing our support withered away.
I suggest that next season the Family end is made in the Northam, and if a cup game occurs it will have a minimal impact when the Family area is moved to the Kingsland or Itchen. for the cup matches, the Home Fans will have no interuption to their phenomenal singing and encouragement of the players and the crowd. Anyway the Choir should be in the chapel one might suppose. Thoughts anyone?

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

saintkenny wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

saintkenny wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Dickosfc wrote:

Sainty saint saint wrote:

Dickosfc wrote: Completely off topic but I cant help thinking about those cheats Wigan!! For starters what an horrendous tackle that should have been a straight red and secondly their 2nd goal was a blatant hand ball. The incompetence of the FA and their Match Officials could really cost someone! Imagine if Wigan were to survive by 1-2 points, how much of an injustice would that be on the Team that were to go down. Joke!

Let it go, it's gone, it's done... Stuff like this happens every season, in every league in the world.

Yeah your right and I know what your saying but we won't be saying that if it was us that went down by a point. How many millions is next season worth

Should the unthinkable happen and we finish a point below Wigan in 18th, it would have as much - or more - to do with the late equaliser they scored against us than the way they beat Newcastle.

Anyway, the unthinkable won't happen - Retford says so and I trust him.

So, should the thinkable happen and we finish a point above Newcastle in 10th (helping several on here win a quid or two for their courageous bet that we'd finish in the top half), then we'll be grateful for Wigan's victory over the Toon and be able to forget Foy's Gawd-awful impression of a ref at St James's Park last month.

then again j rod dived at villa what goes around comes around move on .villa fans said we cheated otherwise they would be above us

That's not what everyone things, Kenny. I happen to agree with you. I think he dived. However, others do have a point when they claim that he pulled his right leg back to avoid 'a MacManaman'.

but the player did not touch him .with the handball at wigan ,if we had 4 linesman and not one on either side many issues would be solved along with harkeye .the league allows players to be paid 200.000 a week .what the cost of 2 more linesman .the 4th official at the moment is a waste of time .only holds up added time .keeps the managers apart from arguing about bad decisions .yet 2 linesman could sort that .simple

I agree, anything to reduce error and make the final result fairer gets my vote.

Sounds like a good idea, problem is the ref being a TV superstar still wouldn't take any notice or them.
His perogative!
We only get sh1t refs.

In Rajasthan at the moment. Good to see EPL is going well here. Shame they mistake Saints for Sunderland. The bartender at the hotel I a, staying at still think the black cats beat Liverpool last week.

When I corrected him, he said Southampton is too long. I felt arguing sunderland is equally long would be pointless.

Still nice to see somebody beating Liverpool whoever they are making the news afar.

we need Luke for the chelski game so I`m glad he will have time to recover fully.

the worst thing that could be done to football would be to introduce tv replays! I said before that now they have allowed goal line tech it wont be long before people want it for other decisions, and today some are. I`m all for having extra officials and even a panel after the game to decide on punishment for ott tackles handballs and diving etc, however replays during a game will ruin football. when would you go to a replay? with the wigan handball for example, if wigan hadn't scored and newc took the ball up the other end and scored would a replay then stop the game prior or after to give a free kick? it cant be done in real time, it can take a while for sky to find the right angle from the right camera, and even then you cant always see if there is contact or not. we still don't know if j-rod was touched or not in the villa game. other sports have got replays but they are sports with breaks in the game and time for the replay, they still get things wrong though, even the NFL has reduced the amount of replays as they were making the game way too long, it got to a point in American football that every `play` was looked at on replay to check the right decision was made. do we want that in football? I don't, I just want better refs.

Thornhill Saint wrote:
In Rajasthan at the moment. Good to see EPL is going well here. Shame they mistake Saints for Sunderland. The bartender at the hotel I a, staying at still think the black cats beat Liverpool last week.

When I corrected him, he said Southampton is too long. I felt arguing sunderland is equally long would be pointless.

Still nice to see somebody beating Liverpool whoever they are making the news afar.

Next they'll be telling you that Saints were founded by some Athletico Madrid bloke who happened to pop into Southampton on a boat wearing a red & white stripped shirt. Go convert the locals, Thornhill!

Anyway, I assume you didn't take a football with you, at least not one emblazoned with 'Manchester City', which conveniently means that we have an Eastertide song for you:

'There is a Thornhill far away,
without a City ball ....'

Nice one Luke (Nicola) , you know it makes sense !

sky sports says poyet firm favorite for reading job

Posted this observation Sunday;
Luke was hit by two Lpoop players late in the game and the ball went out for a corner.
He wanted to stay down and wait for the trainer to come on. Can't remember who told him to get up but after the corner was cleared several players patted him on the back in a way to say keep up, keep on, play through it and well done.
He is still a very young player and he is going to get older players seeing this and giving him a sly clatter just to see his reaction.
Probably needs one of the bigger lads to go and deal with the culprit after, if not before!

saintshorse101 wrote:
we need Luke for the chelski game so I`m glad he will have time to recover fully.

the worst thing that could be done to football would be to introduce tv replays! I said before that now they have allowed goal line tech it wont be long before people want it for other decisions, and today some are. I`m all for having extra officials and even a panel after the game to decide on punishment for ott tackles handballs and diving etc, however replays during a game will ruin football. when would you go to a replay? with the wigan handball for example, if wigan hadn't scored and newc took the ball up the other end and scored would a replay then stop the game prior or after to give a free kick? it cant be done in real time, it can take a while for sky to find the right angle from the right camera, and even then you cant always see if there is contact or not. we still don't know if j-rod was touched or not in the villa game. other sports have got replays but they are sports with breaks in the game and time for the replay, they still get things wrong though, even the NFL has reduced the amount of replays as they were making the game way too long, it got to a point in American football that every `play` was looked at on replay to check the right decision was made. do we want that in football? I don't, I just want better refs.

If a video ref is to be used - and I do think it should, then the Rugby model is the one to do.

The video ref is only referred to for important decisions or to put it another way - ones that will have an effect on the match so tries where the touch down of the ball is not clearly seen, in the corner when there is a suspicion of it being in touch etc. Not sure but I think there may be an opportunity to use it to check on foul play.

but anyway the point is - the video ref is NOT referred to for every little thing, just as a backup so that the ref can be sure to make the right decision based on all the evidence available to him at the time.

clearly if this was to be introduced into football, it would follow a process and the people on that panel would not want it to interfere with football as it currently stands. So I think you could trust them to implement it properly.

the problem is, the modern game is played at such a pace that refs WILL miss things. HOWEVER modern media does not miss them.
so you get a ref during the game doing his best with Mark 1 eyeball and you get the pundits sitting up in their box with access to immediate replays and time to discuss it applying 20/20 vision to what just happened.

clearly that results in the discussions around every incident that happens in a game where the ref doesn't get the decision right. I mean just look at when the pundits use technology to see if a player was offside! How many linesmen do you know who have eyes that can mentally freeze the picture in front of them, draw an arrow straight line and decide if the player is on or offside in a tenth of a second? Oh and also see through one or two defenders as well because any decent striker is going to make sure the linesman can't see him properly.

For me, the video ref should be used for:
Gerrards Goal in the world cup.
Penalty against Shaw in the Norwich game
Everything everyone is talking about in that Wigan game.
Every time Suarez gets near the ball
so
Goals where the ref wants to make sure beyond reasonable doubt that no foul is committed and the ball is over the line
Penalties where he is not sure it was really a foul in the box
Diving.
stuff like that

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Alicesdad wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Stories about Luke always leave me with a tinge of regret.

I'm sure that if as a teenager, I hadn't been so fat, unco-ordinated, short-sighted, lazy and arrogant and hadn't been out every night getting p!ssed and sh@gging, I could have been a top flight footballer.

Wow - and I thought I was the only one! Small world...

I think we may have played in the same Southampton Sunday League Division 6 team!

Show off!

Didn't they get bought up by the Pinnacle consortium last year?

I think the team I played for would have been worth more to Watneys had it bought us and wrung us out for the alcoholic content. Our goalie wasn't called Six-pint Charlie for nothing. Had we been in the Sunday Afternoon League, he'd never have made it on to the pitch.

I have a hunch that Confucious was our centre forward.

I'd receive the ball out wide, **** it past the opposing right midfielder, hammer it down the line, out pace the full back and float an inch-perfect cross on to the 6-yard box, where it would harmlessly drift across the box and be cleared just as our fat, unco-ordinated, short-sighted, lazy, arrogant, p!ssed-up, sh@g-crazy centre forward plodded into the box, stubbed out his fag and ambled back to the half-way line.

The engine of our team was Smythers. He was an old fasioned box-to-box midfielder. If he couldn't hack a player off the ball, he'd wait till he had passed it, then chase the little g!t from one box to the other before making sure he could play no further part in the game. Alas, the ref usually took a similar approach towards Smythers who rarely had to be inconvenienced by playing the full 90 minutes.

**** = d i n k

Anyone on here streetwise enough to know why it's been ****ed from my post?

Same thing happened to me a few weeks back - still can't figure it out.

Time has come for 2 refs as the game is getting so fast!

I don't know if anyone has noticed and I realise this is off topic but:-

Can anyone explain to me why the makers of Vagisil feel it worthwhile to promote their product on Premier League News above. It's a bit like Durex advertising in a convent! I could understand it if they wanted to advertise on 'The News' site as there are plenty of c**ts on there so it's appropriate but come on! Really?

STID

st1halo wrote:
I don't know if anyone has noticed and I realise this is off topic but:-

Can anyone explain to me why the makers of Vagisil feel it worthwhile to promote their product on Premier League News above. It's a bit like Durex advertising in a convent! I could understand it if they wanted to advertise on 'The News' site as there are plenty of c**ts on there so it's appropriate but come on! Really?

STID

Sh1t..I figured it was for chapped lips...I ordered in gallons of it to see me through the cold snap.

I wondered why the courier gave me a funny look....

st1halo wrote:
I don't know if anyone has noticed and I realise this is off topic but:-

Can anyone explain to me why the makers of Vagisil feel it worthwhile to promote their product on Premier League News above. It's a bit like Durex advertising in a convent! I could understand it if they wanted to advertise on 'The News' site as there are plenty of c**ts on there so it's appropriate but come on! Really?

STID

This stuff Is used for itchyfannies,and as I'm very patriotic and only buy british cars I can't really answer your question.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

st1halo wrote:
I don't know if anyone has noticed and I realise this is off topic but:-

Can anyone explain to me why the makers of Vagisil feel it worthwhile to promote their product on Premier League News above. It's a bit like Durex advertising in a convent! I could understand it if they wanted to advertise on 'The News' site as there are plenty of c**ts on there so it's appropriate but come on! Really?

STID

Sh1t..I figured it was for chapped lips...I ordered in gallons of it to see me through the cold snap.

I wondered why the courier gave me a funny look....

I suppose we could use some at SMS to reduce the amount of women in one of our stands. It does say it gets rid of feminine Itchen


STID

st1halo wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

st1halo wrote:
I don't know if anyone has noticed and I realise this is off topic but:-

Can anyone explain to me why the makers of Vagisil feel it worthwhile to promote their product on Premier League News above. It's a bit like Durex advertising in a convent! I could understand it if they wanted to advertise on 'The News' site as there are plenty of c**ts on there so it's appropriate but come on! Really?

STID

Sh1t..I figured it was for chapped lips...I ordered in gallons of it to see me through the cold snap.

I wondered why the courier gave me a funny look....

I suppose we could use some at SMS to reduce the amount of women in one of our stands. It does say it gets rid of feminine Itchen


STID

Crash helmet for st halo.......cue the feminists .

slugger wrote:

st1halo wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

st1halo wrote:
I don't know if anyone has noticed and I realise this is off topic but:-

Can anyone explain to me why the makers of Vagisil feel it worthwhile to promote their product on Premier League News above. It's a bit like Durex advertising in a convent! I could understand it if they wanted to advertise on 'The News' site as there are plenty of c**ts on there so it's appropriate but come on! Really?

STID

Sh1t..I figured it was for chapped lips...I ordered in gallons of it to see me through the cold snap.

I wondered why the courier gave me a funny look....

I suppose we could use some at SMS to reduce the amount of women in one of our stands. It does say it gets rid of feminine Itchen


STID

Crash helmet for st halo.......cue the feminists .

I know, I was gonna say if your itchy c**t is bothering you, divorce her!

Oops!

STID

If anyone is worried about Luke Shaw not being fit for the Chelsea game. I have heard that we have signed his older brother Rick.
He's a bit of a get-around-town kinda guy but supposed to be wheely good!

STID

We're on the verge of greatness. The skunts are on the verge of oblivion.

We now find out who god supports.

I'm looking forward to Champions League footie, but will accept it if we struggle a bit....

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We're on the verge of greatness. The skunts are on the verge of oblivion.

We now find out who god supports.

I'm looking forward to Champions League footie, but will accept it if we struggle a bit....

Do you think we have an advantage where god is concerned? .... being called Saints and all that?

STID

st1halo wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We're on the verge of greatness. The skunts are on the verge of oblivion.

We now find out who god supports.

I'm looking forward to Champions League footie, but will accept it if we struggle a bit....

Do you think we have an advantage where god is concerned? .... being called Saints and all that?

STID

It's a simple case of Right v Wrong.