Wanyama deal a step closer

Daily Echo: Victor Wanyama Victor Wanyama

Victor Wanyama did not feature for Celtic in their latest pre-season tour match last night, as he inched closer to completing his move to Saints.

A fee of about £12m was agreed for the midfielder some time ago, but after talks initially broke down over personal terms, the transfer was resurrected last week.

Wanyama has been with Celtic on their summer trip to Germany, and Neil Lennon, the manager of the Scottish champions, had said the midfielder would be involved in the game against Greuther Furth last night if nothing had materialised in his move to the south coast.

As it turned out, however, the Kenyan international did not play. Sources in Scotland say the transfer is now all but complete.

Cardiff withdrew from the race to sign Wanyama last week, after refusing to offer more than £10m – a sum rejected by Celtic.

That left the way clear for Saints, who could now quickly wrap up a deal for the 22-year-old, adding him to their other summer signing, Croatian international centre-back Dejan Lovren.

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7:02am Wed 10 Jul 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

Who is this player? I've not seen or heard anything about him moving to Saints this summer.
Who is this player? I've not seen or heard anything about him moving to Saints this summer. Stroppy_gramps
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7:17am Wed 10 Jul 13

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Come on Victor, you know you want to!
Come on Victor, you know you want to! Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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7:27am Wed 10 Jul 13

worried of n e hampshire says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Come on Victor, you know you want to!
I don't belieeeeeeeeve it!
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: Come on Victor, you know you want to![/p][/quote]I don't belieeeeeeeeve it! worried of n e hampshire
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7:34am Wed 10 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

If he signs that's the Echo stuffed.
If he signs that's the Echo stuffed. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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7:41am Wed 10 Jul 13

cpnhadock says...

Before this week is out wanayama, stoch, benega and Davolls will all be unveiled.

Coyr!
Before this week is out wanayama, stoch, benega and Davolls will all be unveiled. Coyr! cpnhadock
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7:57am Wed 10 Jul 13

SodburySaint93 says...

I think with Turnball and Luke, Wanyama and Lovren we have balanced the need for homegrown v overseas and youth with experience (Lovren CL under his belt)

Perhaps an out and out CF and cover for LB & RB could complete the picture

I would be happy with that
I think with Turnball and Luke, Wanyama and Lovren we have balanced the need for homegrown v overseas and youth with experience (Lovren CL under his belt) Perhaps an out and out CF and cover for LB & RB could complete the picture I would be happy with that SodburySaint93
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8:09am Wed 10 Jul 13

Albie79 says...

Or he didn't play because he was on holiday longer than the rest of the squad and isn't as ready to play as Lennon expected?
Or he didn't play because he was on holiday longer than the rest of the squad and isn't as ready to play as Lennon expected? Albie79
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8:15am Wed 10 Jul 13

rocketone says...

Get him on board and training with the rest of the squad as soon as possible.
Different fitness levels required in England!
Get him on board and training with the rest of the squad as soon as possible. Different fitness levels required in England! rocketone
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8:42am Wed 10 Jul 13

Saintsayer II says...

cpnhadock wrote:
Before this week is out wanayama, stoch, benega and Davolls will all be unveiled.

Coyr!
Dream on baby

But I love your opptimism
[quote][p][bold]cpnhadock[/bold] wrote: Before this week is out wanayama, stoch, benega and Davolls will all be unveiled. Coyr![/p][/quote]Dream on baby But I love your opptimism Saintsayer II
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8:47am Wed 10 Jul 13

Saintsayer II says...

If we end up with the players that MoPo mentioned plus another 1 or 2 it could end up costing us 50 million
Reportedly we will earn in excess of 100 million If all the family want is that we break even at this stage thaht's ok
If we are not in a position to challenge for a Europa (or better) spot by january will MoPo be replaced ?
If we end up with the players that MoPo mentioned plus another 1 or 2 it could end up costing us 50 million Reportedly we will earn in excess of 100 million If all the family want is that we break even at this stage thaht's ok If we are not in a position to challenge for a Europa (or better) spot by january will MoPo be replaced ? Saintsayer II
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8:53am Wed 10 Jul 13

Confucious says...

As every day goes by it looks ever more certain that he may or may not join us.

Either that or we have now reached the position where Wanyama's indecision will be final.
As every day goes by it looks ever more certain that he may or may not join us. Either that or we have now reached the position where Wanyama's indecision will be final. Confucious
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8:54am Wed 10 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
Who is this player? I've not seen or heard anything about him moving to Saints this summer.
I know, it's just completely out of the blue. The Echo should be congratulated on such a major scoop.

Mind you shouldn't be a surprise, I saw their report on Glen Miller recently, it appears they still haven't found him. Cutting edge !! Then there was their other big scoop that apparently we are now winning the war in North Africa and they have an exclusive from Monty in this Saturdays edition. How much longer can their African correspondent continue claiming expenses on that story?

For a local rag it's punching well above it's weight !!
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: Who is this player? I've not seen or heard anything about him moving to Saints this summer.[/p][/quote]I know, it's just completely out of the blue. The Echo should be congratulated on such a major scoop. Mind you shouldn't be a surprise, I saw their report on Glen Miller recently, it appears they still haven't found him. Cutting edge !! Then there was their other big scoop that apparently we are now winning the war in North Africa and they have an exclusive from Monty in this Saturdays edition. How much longer can their African correspondent continue claiming expenses on that story? For a local rag it's punching well above it's weight !! Alicesdad
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9:01am Wed 10 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
If we end up with the players that MoPo mentioned plus another 1 or 2 it could end up costing us 50 million
Reportedly we will earn in excess of 100 million If all the family want is that we break even at this stage thaht's ok
If we are not in a position to challenge for a Europa (or better) spot by january will MoPo be replaced ?
I doubt it. Your point about balancing finances against achievement is sound but Cortese will have a longer term plan and will not look for targets in January .. with the possible exception that he would not expect us to be in the drop zone. Even then I doubt that MoPo would be the fall guy.

.. and remember MoPo is part of Cortese's plan, the Don chose him very carefully.

I expect at least one moire big signing ... not the Wagamama YouTube star but a striker. .. and the last place you will hears about it is on this site.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: If we end up with the players that MoPo mentioned plus another 1 or 2 it could end up costing us 50 million Reportedly we will earn in excess of 100 million If all the family want is that we break even at this stage thaht's ok If we are not in a position to challenge for a Europa (or better) spot by january will MoPo be replaced ?[/p][/quote]I doubt it. Your point about balancing finances against achievement is sound but Cortese will have a longer term plan and will not look for targets in January .. with the possible exception that he would not expect us to be in the drop zone. Even then I doubt that MoPo would be the fall guy. .. and remember MoPo is part of Cortese's plan, the Don chose him very carefully. I expect at least one moire big signing ... not the Wagamama YouTube star but a striker. .. and the last place you will hears about it is on this site. Alicesdad
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9:04am Wed 10 Jul 13

jerseysaint says...

know a few celtic fans and we have got
quite a player.
i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to
come to St Marys this season.
Starting to believe we can get into top 6.
know a few celtic fans and we have got quite a player. i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to come to St Marys this season. Starting to believe we can get into top 6. jerseysaint
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9:12am Wed 10 Jul 13

Saintsayer II says...

jerseysaint wrote:
know a few celtic fans and we have got
quite a player.
i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to
come to St Marys this season.
Starting to believe we can get into top 6.
Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash
[quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: know a few celtic fans and we have got quite a player. i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to come to St Marys this season. Starting to believe we can get into top 6.[/p][/quote]Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash Saintsayer II
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9:18am Wed 10 Jul 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Confucious wrote:
As every day goes by it looks ever more certain that he may or may not join us.

Either that or we have now reached the position where Wanyama's indecision will be final.
I cannot make my mind up if he is coming here or not, there is no evidence of him signing or not signing, I do know he is already on some posters hate hit list because he did not come in straight away, that offends their ego and will be used as a frequent weapon if he does sign and then doesn't perform. Fox and Guly will be forgotten and the waves of bile will be unbelievable, or not.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: As every day goes by it looks ever more certain that he may or may not join us. Either that or we have now reached the position where Wanyama's indecision will be final.[/p][/quote]I cannot make my mind up if he is coming here or not, there is no evidence of him signing or not signing, I do know he is already on some posters hate hit list because he did not come in straight away, that offends their ego and will be used as a frequent weapon if he does sign and then doesn't perform. Fox and Guly will be forgotten and the waves of bile will be unbelievable, or not. OSPREYSAINT
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9:19am Wed 10 Jul 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
jerseysaint wrote:
know a few celtic fans and we have got
quite a player.
i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to
come to St Marys this season.
Starting to believe we can get into top 6.
Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash
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[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: know a few celtic fans and we have got quite a player. i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to come to St Marys this season. Starting to believe we can get into top 6.[/p][/quote]Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash[/p][/quote]____________________ __________ Reading between the lines again ____________________ __________ OSPREYSAINT
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9:28am Wed 10 Jul 13

costa gaz says...

This is the best player in a Celtic team that reached the last 16 in the champions league, and was the star man in the defeat of Barcelona.
We will taking a bit of a gamble seeing that he has no EPL experience, but I really believe that he will be immense for us and if he decides that he wants away in a couple of seasons we will probably double the money paid.
Hopefully the media are correct and the deal is all but complete.
Now go get a striker.....
This is the best player in a Celtic team that reached the last 16 in the champions league, and was the star man in the defeat of Barcelona. We will taking a bit of a gamble seeing that he has no EPL experience, but I really believe that he will be immense for us and if he decides that he wants away in a couple of seasons we will probably double the money paid. Hopefully the media are correct and the deal is all but complete. Now go get a striker..... costa gaz
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9:42am Wed 10 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

at least if he does sign we wont have to spend days/weeks debating him as we have done that to death already!
everything is pointing to him signing, if he hasn't done so yet, but as others have said I wont believe it until I see it on the os.
at least if he does sign we wont have to spend days/weeks debating him as we have done that to death already! everything is pointing to him signing, if he hasn't done so yet, but as others have said I wont believe it until I see it on the os. el caballo santos101
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9:44am Wed 10 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Come on Victor, you know you want to!
And the first of the multi faced Saints fans shows up early today.

If I remember correctly, you've said Vic didn't look that special, is just a mercenary and basically is just not that good.

You will not be alone. Loads of other Saints clowns are swapping directions more than a wind vane in a hurricane.

Try and KLINGON to your principals starchild. Or beam off somewhere.......
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: Come on Victor, you know you want to![/p][/quote]And the first of the multi faced Saints fans shows up early today. If I remember correctly, you've said Vic didn't look that special, is just a mercenary and basically is just not that good. You will not be alone. Loads of other Saints clowns are swapping directions more than a wind vane in a hurricane. Try and KLINGON to your principals starchild. Or beam off somewhere....... Ach I The Noo
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9:44am Wed 10 Jul 13

SaintMax says...

All things now point towards him signing, but will keep my eye on twitter for when it happens.
With him on board we are a couple more acquisitions away from quite a team.
All things now point towards him signing, but will keep my eye on twitter for when it happens. With him on board we are a couple more acquisitions away from quite a team. SaintMax
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9:52am Wed 10 Jul 13

costa gaz says...

If he does put pen to paper, how does MP accommodate Cork, Schniederlin and Wanyama?
JC and MS were brilliant last season, our best players and it will be difficult to think that one of these will lose their place.
Unless MP has something up his sleeve can all 3 make the first 11?
If he does put pen to paper, how does MP accommodate Cork, Schniederlin and Wanyama? JC and MS were brilliant last season, our best players and it will be difficult to think that one of these will lose their place. Unless MP has something up his sleeve can all 3 make the first 11? costa gaz
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9:53am Wed 10 Jul 13

Jesus_02 says...

The Daily Record is reporting that Saints have increased their bid to 12.5m

At first I thought "why would we increase our bid when 12m was accepted"...then I though of the agent. I imagine the other 500k is to pay of the rest of his contract.

Anyway I reckon Friday, press conference Shaw signs a new deal as well...club shows its balancing homegrown with the best of overseas talent
The Daily Record is reporting that Saints have increased their bid to 12.5m At first I thought "why would we increase our bid when 12m was accepted"...then I though of the agent. I imagine the other 500k is to pay of the rest of his contract. Anyway I reckon Friday, press conference Shaw signs a new deal as well...club shows its balancing homegrown with the best of overseas talent Jesus_02
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10:03am Wed 10 Jul 13

SaintMax says...

Have noticed on Twitter this morning that Celtic fans and Journos are claiming he will say his goodbyes today and Saints will announce his signing within by tomorrow.
Have noticed on Twitter this morning that Celtic fans and Journos are claiming he will say his goodbyes today and Saints will announce his signing within by tomorrow. SaintMax
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10:07am Wed 10 Jul 13

Satyricon Saint says...

After such a drawn out process I'm not holding my breath on this one. More interested to see where we are at with the other players Saints are linked with
After such a drawn out process I'm not holding my breath on this one. More interested to see where we are at with the other players Saints are linked with Satyricon Saint
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10:29am Wed 10 Jul 13

BracknellSaint says...

I hope he's good if we're spending that cash on a relatively unknown young man...
It seems they rate him highly at Celtic, who, despite playing in the equivalent level as League One, must be good to have done as well as they have in the last couple of years in the CL/Europa league to be fair.
I see our Scottish WUM is claiming we are all two faced...My personal feeling is that he's a player with potential(and possible future sell on value too) but also unproven, so we would need to be patient as we try and develop him further into a top class player from the 'prospect' which he is at this stage.
If our coaches can achieve that, he'l prove worth the money, but maybe we shouldn't expect him to walk into the team/improve us in the first season?
Anyway, more pressing is a quality finisher and a creative&quick attacking midfielder/winger.
Couple of back up full backs maybe too?
I hope he's good if we're spending that cash on a relatively unknown young man... It seems they rate him highly at Celtic, who, despite playing in the equivalent level as League One, must be good to have done as well as they have in the last couple of years in the CL/Europa league to be fair. I see our Scottish WUM is claiming we are all two faced...My personal feeling is that he's a player with potential(and possible future sell on value too) but also unproven, so we would need to be patient as we try and develop him further into a top class player from the 'prospect' which he is at this stage. If our coaches can achieve that, he'l prove worth the money, but maybe we shouldn't expect him to walk into the team/improve us in the first season? Anyway, more pressing is a quality finisher and a creative&quick attacking midfielder/winger. Couple of back up full backs maybe too? BracknellSaint
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10:31am Wed 10 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

jerseysaint wrote:
know a few celtic fans and we have got
quite a player.
i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to
come to St Marys this season.
Starting to believe we can get into top 6.
You were doing so well and then ..."I think" etc

Not really your strong point obviously......
[quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: know a few celtic fans and we have got quite a player. i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to come to St Marys this season. Starting to believe we can get into top 6.[/p][/quote]You were doing so well and then ..."I think" etc Not really your strong point obviously...... Ach I The Noo
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10:36am Wed 10 Jul 13

SaintMax says...

If this Wanyama fella is used to playing the equivalent of our league one with Celtic, I hope he can step up to our standard.
May be hard for him to have to play good teams week in week out, not to mention having to break into a team full of quality players.
If this Wanyama fella is used to playing the equivalent of our league one with Celtic, I hope he can step up to our standard. May be hard for him to have to play good teams week in week out, not to mention having to break into a team full of quality players. SaintMax
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10:41am Wed 10 Jul 13

paulmsh says...

He's definitely going to sign for us, unless he decides to go to another club or stay at Celtic.
He's definitely going to sign for us, unless he decides to go to another club or stay at Celtic. paulmsh
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10:42am Wed 10 Jul 13

Mister E says...

Stop press: We may, or may not, be signing a player this week!
Stop press: We may, or may not, be signing a player this week! Mister E
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10:46am Wed 10 Jul 13

saintysaintsaint says...

youtube /watch?v=Qp3Cml1u4K0
&

Anyone doubting his ability watch that video (ignore the shocking music)

He's alot of what we were missing last season, he scores some cracking headers from corners and isn't afraid to have a shot (instead of trying to pass it into the net like we have been doing) and will give us some extra legs at the end of the season

He'll be great for us and I for one will be getting his name on the back of my new shirt ;)
youtube /watch?v=Qp3Cml1u4K0 & Anyone doubting his ability watch that video (ignore the shocking music) He's alot of what we were missing last season, he scores some cracking headers from corners and isn't afraid to have a shot (instead of trying to pass it into the net like we have been doing) and will give us some extra legs at the end of the season He'll be great for us and I for one will be getting his name on the back of my new shirt ;) saintysaintsaint
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10:46am Wed 10 Jul 13

Mister E says...

Mister E wrote:
Stop press: We may, or may not, be signing a player this week!
But, then again, there may, or may not, be more speculation!
Seriously though, it's almost painful, but oh, the anticipation of it all!
[quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: Stop press: We may, or may not, be signing a player this week![/p][/quote]But, then again, there may, or may not, be more speculation! Seriously though, it's almost painful, but oh, the anticipation of it all! Mister E
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10:48am Wed 10 Jul 13

Satyricon Saint says...

Mister E wrote:
Stop press: We may, or may not, be signing a player this week!
This just in! Progress has potentially been made, but we can neither confirm or un-confirm that the player will sign this week, or for the interested club
[quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: Stop press: We may, or may not, be signing a player this week![/p][/quote]This just in! Progress has potentially been made, but we can neither confirm or un-confirm that the player will sign this week, or for the interested club Satyricon Saint
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10:50am Wed 10 Jul 13

business-guru says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
jerseysaint wrote:
know a few celtic fans and we have got
quite a player.
i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to
come to St Marys this season.
Starting to believe we can get into top 6.
Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash
13 goals in two seasons !!!! of course they want him gone if anyone is stupid enough to pay £12M for that. Fair enough if he was a midfield destroyer or holding player, but he is not, so how come he scored so few in the pub league ? I have spoken to a few celtic fans and they all rate him, they all said he has great skills and was a delight to watch, but he is not a goal scorer and so why on earth do we want him at that money ?
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: know a few celtic fans and we have got quite a player. i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to come to St Marys this season. Starting to believe we can get into top 6.[/p][/quote]Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash[/p][/quote]13 goals in two seasons !!!! of course they want him gone if anyone is stupid enough to pay £12M for that. Fair enough if he was a midfield destroyer or holding player, but he is not, so how come he scored so few in the pub league ? I have spoken to a few celtic fans and they all rate him, they all said he has great skills and was a delight to watch, but he is not a goal scorer and so why on earth do we want him at that money ? business-guru
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10:51am Wed 10 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

SaintMax wrote:
If this Wanyama fella is used to playing the equivalent of our league one with Celtic, I hope he can step up to our standard.
May be hard for him to have to play good teams week in week out, not to mention having to break into a team full of quality players.
Fair point but ex-celts Fox and Hooiveld managed it. Even Davis from a Scottish Div 3 team did.

Quality eh.....?
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: If this Wanyama fella is used to playing the equivalent of our league one with Celtic, I hope he can step up to our standard. May be hard for him to have to play good teams week in week out, not to mention having to break into a team full of quality players.[/p][/quote]Fair point but ex-celts Fox and Hooiveld managed it. Even Davis from a Scottish Div 3 team did. Quality eh.....? Ach I The Noo
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10:52am Wed 10 Jul 13

Redrobbo says...

He has just been spotted at Eastleigh Airport with a certain Michael Owen who is apparantly going to sign for us.
He has just been spotted at Eastleigh Airport with a certain Michael Owen who is apparantly going to sign for us. Redrobbo
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10:54am Wed 10 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

business-guru wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
jerseysaint wrote:
know a few celtic fans and we have got
quite a player.
i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to
come to St Marys this season.
Starting to believe we can get into top 6.
Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash
13 goals in two seasons !!!! of course they want him gone if anyone is stupid enough to pay £12M for that. Fair enough if he was a midfield destroyer or holding player, but he is not, so how come he scored so few in the pub league ? I have spoken to a few celtic fans and they all rate him, they all said he has great skills and was a delight to watch, but he is not a goal scorer and so why on earth do we want him at that money ?
Shhhhhooosh.

It's supposed to be a secret........
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: know a few celtic fans and we have got quite a player. i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to come to St Marys this season. Starting to believe we can get into top 6.[/p][/quote]Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash[/p][/quote]13 goals in two seasons !!!! of course they want him gone if anyone is stupid enough to pay £12M for that. Fair enough if he was a midfield destroyer or holding player, but he is not, so how come he scored so few in the pub league ? I have spoken to a few celtic fans and they all rate him, they all said he has great skills and was a delight to watch, but he is not a goal scorer and so why on earth do we want him at that money ?[/p][/quote]Shhhhhooosh. It's supposed to be a secret........ Ach I The Noo
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10:54am Wed 10 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
The Daily Record is reporting that Saints have increased their bid to 12.5m

At first I thought "why would we increase our bid when 12m was accepted"...then I though of the agent. I imagine the other 500k is to pay of the rest of his contract.

Anyway I reckon Friday, press conference Shaw signs a new deal as well...club shows its balancing homegrown with the best of overseas talent
That's interesting given they had already accepted our bid of £12m.

I wonder if the two clubs have agreed to go 50/50 on the agents fees to get the deal done?

We might be paying Celtic an extra £500k so they can pay the agents fees of £1m and it won't show on our total spend with agents come the end of the window.
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: The Daily Record is reporting that Saints have increased their bid to 12.5m At first I thought "why would we increase our bid when 12m was accepted"...then I though of the agent. I imagine the other 500k is to pay of the rest of his contract. Anyway I reckon Friday, press conference Shaw signs a new deal as well...club shows its balancing homegrown with the best of overseas talent[/p][/quote]That's interesting given they had already accepted our bid of £12m. I wonder if the two clubs have agreed to go 50/50 on the agents fees to get the deal done? We might be paying Celtic an extra £500k so they can pay the agents fees of £1m and it won't show on our total spend with agents come the end of the window. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:55am Wed 10 Jul 13

SaintMax says...

business-guru wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
jerseysaint wrote:
know a few celtic fans and we have got
quite a player.
i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to
come to St Marys this season.
Starting to believe we can get into top 6.
Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash
13 goals in two seasons !!!! of course they want him gone if anyone is stupid enough to pay £12M for that. Fair enough if he was a midfield destroyer or holding player, but he is not, so how come he scored so few in the pub league ? I have spoken to a few celtic fans and they all rate him, they all said he has great skills and was a delight to watch, but he is not a goal scorer and so why on earth do we want him at that money ?
I think you need to watch Saintysaintsaint(sai
nt)s youtube video mate for starters.
It looks like he sits in the middle of park breaking up play and moving the ball on simply.
If he does this with Morgan as well as he has done this with Celtic he could be an amazing investment.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: know a few celtic fans and we have got quite a player. i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to come to St Marys this season. Starting to believe we can get into top 6.[/p][/quote]Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash[/p][/quote]13 goals in two seasons !!!! of course they want him gone if anyone is stupid enough to pay £12M for that. Fair enough if he was a midfield destroyer or holding player, but he is not, so how come he scored so few in the pub league ? I have spoken to a few celtic fans and they all rate him, they all said he has great skills and was a delight to watch, but he is not a goal scorer and so why on earth do we want him at that money ?[/p][/quote]I think you need to watch Saintysaintsaint(sai nt)s youtube video mate for starters. It looks like he sits in the middle of park breaking up play and moving the ball on simply. If he does this with Morgan as well as he has done this with Celtic he could be an amazing investment. SaintMax
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10:57am Wed 10 Jul 13

SaintMax says...

Ach I The Noo wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
If this Wanyama fella is used to playing the equivalent of our league one with Celtic, I hope he can step up to our standard.
May be hard for him to have to play good teams week in week out, not to mention having to break into a team full of quality players.
Fair point but ex-celts Fox and Hooiveld managed it. Even Davis from a Scottish Div 3 team did.

Quality eh.....?
ooh, I just went fishing for the biggest fish (in a small pond) and it bit straight away.
Thanks, I enjoyed that.
[quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: If this Wanyama fella is used to playing the equivalent of our league one with Celtic, I hope he can step up to our standard. May be hard for him to have to play good teams week in week out, not to mention having to break into a team full of quality players.[/p][/quote]Fair point but ex-celts Fox and Hooiveld managed it. Even Davis from a Scottish Div 3 team did. Quality eh.....?[/p][/quote]ooh, I just went fishing for the biggest fish (in a small pond) and it bit straight away. Thanks, I enjoyed that. SaintMax
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10:59am Wed 10 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
The Daily Record is reporting that Saints have increased their bid to 12.5m

At first I thought "why would we increase our bid when 12m was accepted"...then I though of the agent. I imagine the other 500k is to pay of the rest of his contract.

Anyway I reckon Friday, press conference Shaw signs a new deal as well...club shows its balancing homegrown with the best of overseas talent
That's interesting given they had already accepted our bid of £12m.

I wonder if the two clubs have agreed to go 50/50 on the agents fees to get the deal done?

We might be paying Celtic an extra £500k so they can pay the agents fees of £1m and it won't show on our total spend with agents come the end of the window.
Surely not ?

The mighty unmovable Cortese gives in and coughs up more money after boasting that nobody holds Saints to ransom ?

Jeez. Even the Boss is two faced....!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: The Daily Record is reporting that Saints have increased their bid to 12.5m At first I thought "why would we increase our bid when 12m was accepted"...then I though of the agent. I imagine the other 500k is to pay of the rest of his contract. Anyway I reckon Friday, press conference Shaw signs a new deal as well...club shows its balancing homegrown with the best of overseas talent[/p][/quote]That's interesting given they had already accepted our bid of £12m. I wonder if the two clubs have agreed to go 50/50 on the agents fees to get the deal done? We might be paying Celtic an extra £500k so they can pay the agents fees of £1m and it won't show on our total spend with agents come the end of the window.[/p][/quote]Surely not ? The mighty unmovable Cortese gives in and coughs up more money after boasting that nobody holds Saints to ransom ? Jeez. Even the Boss is two faced....! Ach I The Noo
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11:00am Wed 10 Jul 13

Saintly Sam says...

It will certainly be a very good deal for Celtic, they picked him up for peanuts and sell him on after two years for £12 million, I hope it's not based on the performance against Barcelona, I remember when Leeds bought Tomas Brolin after a great performance against them, he turned out to be a colossal failure at Leeds.
I hope he can step up a gear when and if he plays in a real league.
It will certainly be a very good deal for Celtic, they picked him up for peanuts and sell him on after two years for £12 million, I hope it's not based on the performance against Barcelona, I remember when Leeds bought Tomas Brolin after a great performance against them, he turned out to be a colossal failure at Leeds. I hope he can step up a gear when and if he plays in a real league. Saintly Sam
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11:01am Wed 10 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

SaintMax wrote:
Ach I The Noo wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
If this Wanyama fella is used to playing the equivalent of our league one with Celtic, I hope he can step up to our standard.
May be hard for him to have to play good teams week in week out, not to mention having to break into a team full of quality players.
Fair point but ex-celts Fox and Hooiveld managed it. Even Davis from a Scottish Div 3 team did.

Quality eh.....?
ooh, I just went fishing for the biggest fish (in a small pond) and it bit straight away.
Thanks, I enjoyed that.
of course you were fishing.

Most anglers say that when a shark just tore them a new one.....
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: If this Wanyama fella is used to playing the equivalent of our league one with Celtic, I hope he can step up to our standard. May be hard for him to have to play good teams week in week out, not to mention having to break into a team full of quality players.[/p][/quote]Fair point but ex-celts Fox and Hooiveld managed it. Even Davis from a Scottish Div 3 team did. Quality eh.....?[/p][/quote]ooh, I just went fishing for the biggest fish (in a small pond) and it bit straight away. Thanks, I enjoyed that.[/p][/quote]of course you were fishing. Most anglers say that when a shark just tore them a new one..... Ach I The Noo
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11:01am Wed 10 Jul 13

BracknellSaint says...

Ach I The Noo wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
I hope he's good if we're spending that cash on a relatively unknown young man...
It seems they rate him highly at Celtic, who, despite playing in the equivalent level as League One, must be good to have done as well as they have in the last couple of years in the CL/Europa league to be fair.
I see our Scottish WUM is claiming we are all two faced...My personal feeling is that he's a player with potential(and possible future sell on value too) but also unproven, so we would need to be patient as we try and develop him further into a top class player from the 'prospect' which he is at this stage.
If our coaches can achieve that, he'l prove worth the money, but maybe we shouldn't expect him to walk into the team/improve us in the first season?
Anyway, more pressing is a quality finisher and a creative&quick attacking midfielder/winger.
Couple of back up full backs maybe too?
Wish you clowns would try and be a wee bit more accurate.

I never said ALL two faced. Some have stuck by their initial reaction.

And said he was cr@p from a League One level etc etc.

They are ABOUT to become two faced.........
Sorry Ach,
I can't remember exactly who said what, so you may well be right that some Saints fans are going to have egg on their faces if (a) he signs, and (b) he is actually decent. I'll agree with you then.
As I said, my personal opinion is that he may be a player with huge potential. Certainly not the finished article yet mind, and I'll be really honest an say the seeming(at least public) lack of interest from your Man U/Chelsea/Arsenal/ Bayern/ Real /Milan etc teams makes me a little nervous, but maybe it' because although he's got raw potential, they'd want someone more polished..maybe that's where Saints come in though..2-3 years at an up and coming club going in the right direction, then with some experience in the EPL under his belt, they'll come in for him..
Anyway, like I say, the EPL is going to be a step up for him, but I'd be happy if he comes and proves he's worth it.
[quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: I hope he's good if we're spending that cash on a relatively unknown young man... It seems they rate him highly at Celtic, who, despite playing in the equivalent level as League One, must be good to have done as well as they have in the last couple of years in the CL/Europa league to be fair. I see our Scottish WUM is claiming we are all two faced...My personal feeling is that he's a player with potential(and possible future sell on value too) but also unproven, so we would need to be patient as we try and develop him further into a top class player from the 'prospect' which he is at this stage. If our coaches can achieve that, he'l prove worth the money, but maybe we shouldn't expect him to walk into the team/improve us in the first season? Anyway, more pressing is a quality finisher and a creative&quick attacking midfielder/winger. Couple of back up full backs maybe too?[/p][/quote]Wish you clowns would try and be a wee bit more accurate. I never said ALL two faced. Some have stuck by their initial reaction. And said he was cr@p from a League One level etc etc. They are ABOUT to become two faced.........[/p][/quote]Sorry Ach, I can't remember exactly who said what, so you may well be right that some Saints fans are going to have egg on their faces if (a) he signs, and (b) he is actually decent. I'll agree with you then. As I said, my personal opinion is that he may be a player with huge potential. Certainly not the finished article yet mind, and I'll be really honest an say the seeming(at least public) lack of interest from your Man U/Chelsea/Arsenal/ Bayern/ Real /Milan etc teams makes me a little nervous, but maybe it' because although he's got raw potential, they'd want someone more polished..maybe that's where Saints come in though..2-3 years at an up and coming club going in the right direction, then with some experience in the EPL under his belt, they'll come in for him.. Anyway, like I say, the EPL is going to be a step up for him, but I'd be happy if he comes and proves he's worth it. BracknellSaint
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11:02am Wed 10 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

Anyway.

Off to see the Ashes.

C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!!
Anyway. Off to see the Ashes. C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!! Ach I The Noo
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11:04am Wed 10 Jul 13

SaintMax says...

Ach I The Noo wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Ach I The Noo wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
If this Wanyama fella is used to playing the equivalent of our league one with Celtic, I hope he can step up to our standard.
May be hard for him to have to play good teams week in week out, not to mention having to break into a team full of quality players.
Fair point but ex-celts Fox and Hooiveld managed it. Even Davis from a Scottish Div 3 team did.

Quality eh.....?
ooh, I just went fishing for the biggest fish (in a small pond) and it bit straight away.
Thanks, I enjoyed that.
of course you were fishing.

Most anglers say that when a shark just tore them a new one.....
Is that the best you can do? I think I will throw you back for someone else, you look more like a mullet and probably sport one too.
[quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: If this Wanyama fella is used to playing the equivalent of our league one with Celtic, I hope he can step up to our standard. May be hard for him to have to play good teams week in week out, not to mention having to break into a team full of quality players.[/p][/quote]Fair point but ex-celts Fox and Hooiveld managed it. Even Davis from a Scottish Div 3 team did. Quality eh.....?[/p][/quote]ooh, I just went fishing for the biggest fish (in a small pond) and it bit straight away. Thanks, I enjoyed that.[/p][/quote]of course you were fishing. Most anglers say that when a shark just tore them a new one.....[/p][/quote]Is that the best you can do? I think I will throw you back for someone else, you look more like a mullet and probably sport one too. SaintMax
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11:05am Wed 10 Jul 13

business-guru says...

SaintMax wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
jerseysaint wrote:
know a few celtic fans and we have got
quite a player.
i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to
come to St Marys this season.
Starting to believe we can get into top 6.
Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash
13 goals in two seasons !!!! of course they want him gone if anyone is stupid enough to pay £12M for that. Fair enough if he was a midfield destroyer or holding player, but he is not, so how come he scored so few in the pub league ? I have spoken to a few celtic fans and they all rate him, they all said he has great skills and was a delight to watch, but he is not a goal scorer and so why on earth do we want him at that money ?
I think you need to watch Saintysaintsaint(sai

nt)s youtube video mate for starters.
It looks like he sits in the middle of park breaking up play and moving the ball on simply.
If he does this with Morgan as well as he has done this with Celtic he could be an amazing investment.
celtic are div1 side, we are in the Prem.... If you put Cork or MS in the celtic side they would look like Maradona.... You have got to understand the level of football up there, its dire. Furthermore, Saints need someone who knows where the back of the net is. Fair play to AL , and other "attacking" midfield options we have used, they have all found it hard to score and this was expected but there is not point signing this guy unless we also have goal scorer(s). Regards "agents" fees etc etc , this is all a nonsense, the Agents fees should be paid by the player. Its upto him what chunk of his fee he waves goodbye to.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: know a few celtic fans and we have got quite a player. i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to come to St Marys this season. Starting to believe we can get into top 6.[/p][/quote]Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash[/p][/quote]13 goals in two seasons !!!! of course they want him gone if anyone is stupid enough to pay £12M for that. Fair enough if he was a midfield destroyer or holding player, but he is not, so how come he scored so few in the pub league ? I have spoken to a few celtic fans and they all rate him, they all said he has great skills and was a delight to watch, but he is not a goal scorer and so why on earth do we want him at that money ?[/p][/quote]I think you need to watch Saintysaintsaint(sai nt)s youtube video mate for starters. It looks like he sits in the middle of park breaking up play and moving the ball on simply. If he does this with Morgan as well as he has done this with Celtic he could be an amazing investment.[/p][/quote]celtic are div1 side, we are in the Prem.... If you put Cork or MS in the celtic side they would look like Maradona.... You have got to understand the level of football up there, its dire. Furthermore, Saints need someone who knows where the back of the net is. Fair play to AL , and other "attacking" midfield options we have used, they have all found it hard to score and this was expected but there is not point signing this guy unless we also have goal scorer(s). Regards "agents" fees etc etc , this is all a nonsense, the Agents fees should be paid by the player. Its upto him what chunk of his fee he waves goodbye to. business-guru
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11:11am Wed 10 Jul 13

SaintMax says...

business-guru wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
jerseysaint wrote:
know a few celtic fans and we have got
quite a player.
i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to
come to St Marys this season.
Starting to believe we can get into top 6.
Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash
13 goals in two seasons !!!! of course they want him gone if anyone is stupid enough to pay £12M for that. Fair enough if he was a midfield destroyer or holding player, but he is not, so how come he scored so few in the pub league ? I have spoken to a few celtic fans and they all rate him, they all said he has great skills and was a delight to watch, but he is not a goal scorer and so why on earth do we want him at that money ?
I think you need to watch Saintysaintsaint(sai


nt)s youtube video mate for starters.
It looks like he sits in the middle of park breaking up play and moving the ball on simply.
If he does this with Morgan as well as he has done this with Celtic he could be an amazing investment.
celtic are div1 side, we are in the Prem.... If you put Cork or MS in the celtic side they would look like Maradona.... You have got to understand the level of football up there, its dire. Furthermore, Saints need someone who knows where the back of the net is. Fair play to AL , and other "attacking" midfield options we have used, they have all found it hard to score and this was expected but there is not point signing this guy unless we also have goal scorer(s). Regards "agents" fees etc etc , this is all a nonsense, the Agents fees should be paid by the player. Its upto him what chunk of his fee he waves goodbye to.
Fair point. We are all entitled to one.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: know a few celtic fans and we have got quite a player. i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to come to St Marys this season. Starting to believe we can get into top 6.[/p][/quote]Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash[/p][/quote]13 goals in two seasons !!!! of course they want him gone if anyone is stupid enough to pay £12M for that. Fair enough if he was a midfield destroyer or holding player, but he is not, so how come he scored so few in the pub league ? I have spoken to a few celtic fans and they all rate him, they all said he has great skills and was a delight to watch, but he is not a goal scorer and so why on earth do we want him at that money ?[/p][/quote]I think you need to watch Saintysaintsaint(sai nt)s youtube video mate for starters. It looks like he sits in the middle of park breaking up play and moving the ball on simply. If he does this with Morgan as well as he has done this with Celtic he could be an amazing investment.[/p][/quote]celtic are div1 side, we are in the Prem.... If you put Cork or MS in the celtic side they would look like Maradona.... You have got to understand the level of football up there, its dire. Furthermore, Saints need someone who knows where the back of the net is. Fair play to AL , and other "attacking" midfield options we have used, they have all found it hard to score and this was expected but there is not point signing this guy unless we also have goal scorer(s). Regards "agents" fees etc etc , this is all a nonsense, the Agents fees should be paid by the player. Its upto him what chunk of his fee he waves goodbye to.[/p][/quote]Fair point. We are all entitled to one. SaintMax
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11:12am Wed 10 Jul 13

Jesus_02 says...

Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend
Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend Jesus_02
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11:18am Wed 10 Jul 13

Mister E says...

Ach I The Noo wrote:
Anyway.

Off to see the Ashes.

C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!!
The only time's I've commented on sites directly linked with another club was to comment, appropriately and respectfully, for example when Marc Vivien Foe passed away (may he rest in peace) and when Fabrice Muamba collapsed.
My point is you spend a lot of time on here, SO, we are either very important to you, or, as I've said before, Saints fans have more class.
[quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: Anyway. Off to see the Ashes. C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!![/p][/quote]The only time's I've commented on sites directly linked with another club was to comment, appropriately and respectfully, for example when Marc Vivien Foe passed away (may he rest in peace) and when Fabrice Muamba collapsed. My point is you spend a lot of time on here, SO, we are either very important to you, or, as I've said before, Saints fans have more class. Mister E
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11:19am Wed 10 Jul 13

Mister E says...

Mister E wrote:
Ach I The Noo wrote:
Anyway.

Off to see the Ashes.

C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!!
The only time's I've commented on sites directly linked with another club was to comment, appropriately and respectfully, for example when Marc Vivien Foe passed away (may he rest in peace) and when Fabrice Muamba collapsed.
My point is you spend a lot of time on here, SO, we are either very important to you, or, as I've said before, Saints fans have more class.
Or is it both!
[quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: Anyway. Off to see the Ashes. C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!![/p][/quote]The only time's I've commented on sites directly linked with another club was to comment, appropriately and respectfully, for example when Marc Vivien Foe passed away (may he rest in peace) and when Fabrice Muamba collapsed. My point is you spend a lot of time on here, SO, we are either very important to you, or, as I've said before, Saints fans have more class.[/p][/quote]Or is it both! Mister E
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11:20am Wed 10 Jul 13

Kernowsaints says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend
don't the skates need players he may fit in there
and there must be female skate fans of some kind although i shudder at the thought would he deserve either
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend[/p][/quote]don't the skates need players he may fit in there and there must be female skate fans of some kind although i shudder at the thought would he deserve either Kernowsaints
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11:34am Wed 10 Jul 13

Costa Baz says...

Albie79 wrote:
Or he didn't play because he was on holiday longer than the rest of the squad and isn't as ready to play as Lennon expected?
Lennon was quoted as saying that talks were going on, with a club, and IF nothing came from the talks, Wanyama WOULD play part of last night's game.

For him not to be used, indicates that a buying club is protecting it's new player, which, judging by the injuries Celtic are stacking up, ain't a bad idea.
[quote][p][bold]Albie79[/bold] wrote: Or he didn't play because he was on holiday longer than the rest of the squad and isn't as ready to play as Lennon expected?[/p][/quote]Lennon was quoted as saying that talks were going on, with a club, and IF nothing came from the talks, Wanyama WOULD play part of last night's game. For him not to be used, indicates that a buying club is protecting it's new player, which, judging by the injuries Celtic are stacking up, ain't a bad idea. Costa Baz
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11:37am Wed 10 Jul 13

BracknellSaint says...

Kernowsaints wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend
don't the skates need players he may fit in there
and there must be female skate fans of some kind although i shudder at the thought would he deserve either
What do you call a female skate though?
Are they 'skunts' too? Or just skanks?
Or both?
[quote][p][bold]Kernowsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend[/p][/quote]don't the skates need players he may fit in there and there must be female skate fans of some kind although i shudder at the thought would he deserve either[/p][/quote]What do you call a female skate though? Are they 'skunts' too? Or just skanks? Or both? BracknellSaint
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11:39am Wed 10 Jul 13

st1halo says...

Ach I The Noo wrote:
Anyway.

Off to see the Ashes.

C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!!
Doest that mean you are switching the tv on, Alicesbiatch!

Can't imagine a true Scot "paying" to watch the English.

STID
[quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: Anyway. Off to see the Ashes. C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!![/p][/quote]Doest that mean you are switching the tv on, Alicesbiatch! Can't imagine a true Scot "paying" to watch the English. STID st1halo
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11:41am Wed 10 Jul 13

lemon cake says...

business-guru wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
jerseysaint wrote:
know a few celtic fans and we have got
quite a player.
i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to
come to St Marys this season.
Starting to believe we can get into top 6.
Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash
13 goals in two seasons !!!! of course they want him gone if anyone is stupid enough to pay £12M for that. Fair enough if he was a midfield destroyer or holding player, but he is not, so how come he scored so few in the pub league ? I have spoken to a few celtic fans and they all rate him, they all said he has great skills and was a delight to watch, but he is not a goal scorer and so why on earth do we want him at that money ?
what a Tw4t.
Last time I looked he wasnt a striker but a defensive midfielder or full back so I think 13 goals in 2 seasons is pretty good considering.
Morgan only has 8 goals in 168 apperances so does that make him sh1t too??
All those of you saying 'he only plays the equivilant of league 1 football' may i remind you of where Ricki, Jayrod etc came from?? The bulk of our squad had never played outside of the Championship and League 1 untill this season just gone and I think they did pretty well dont you? Shaw hadnt even played outside of the under 21's untill this season....at least this guy has CL experiance and played against some of the best players in the world (and kept them quiet too)
So come on and give this guy a bloody break and get behind him if he signs.
This time next season we will all be saying that we got him on the cheap
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: know a few celtic fans and we have got quite a player. i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to come to St Marys this season. Starting to believe we can get into top 6.[/p][/quote]Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash[/p][/quote]13 goals in two seasons !!!! of course they want him gone if anyone is stupid enough to pay £12M for that. Fair enough if he was a midfield destroyer or holding player, but he is not, so how come he scored so few in the pub league ? I have spoken to a few celtic fans and they all rate him, they all said he has great skills and was a delight to watch, but he is not a goal scorer and so why on earth do we want him at that money ?[/p][/quote]what a Tw4t. Last time I looked he wasnt a striker but a defensive midfielder or full back so I think 13 goals in 2 seasons is pretty good considering. Morgan only has 8 goals in 168 apperances so does that make him sh1t too?? All those of you saying 'he only plays the equivilant of league 1 football' may i remind you of where Ricki, Jayrod etc came from?? The bulk of our squad had never played outside of the Championship and League 1 untill this season just gone and I think they did pretty well dont you? Shaw hadnt even played outside of the under 21's untill this season....at least this guy has CL experiance and played against some of the best players in the world (and kept them quiet too) So come on and give this guy a bloody break and get behind him if he signs. This time next season we will all be saying that we got him on the cheap lemon cake
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11:47am Wed 10 Jul 13

Mister E says...

st1halo wrote:
Ach I The Noo wrote:
Anyway.

Off to see the Ashes.

C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!!
Doest that mean you are switching the tv on, Alicesbiatch!

Can't imagine a true Scot "paying" to watch the English.

STID
He isn't a true Scot. He can't even get Och aye the noo right!
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: Anyway. Off to see the Ashes. C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!![/p][/quote]Doest that mean you are switching the tv on, Alicesbiatch! Can't imagine a true Scot "paying" to watch the English. STID[/p][/quote]He isn't a true Scot. He can't even get Och aye the noo right! Mister E
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11:53am Wed 10 Jul 13

st1halo says...

lemon cake wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
jerseysaint wrote:
know a few celtic fans and we have got
quite a player.
i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to
come to St Marys this season.
Starting to believe we can get into top 6.
Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash
13 goals in two seasons !!!! of course they want him gone if anyone is stupid enough to pay £12M for that. Fair enough if he was a midfield destroyer or holding player, but he is not, so how come he scored so few in the pub league ? I have spoken to a few celtic fans and they all rate him, they all said he has great skills and was a delight to watch, but he is not a goal scorer and so why on earth do we want him at that money ?
what a Tw4t.
Last time I looked he wasnt a striker but a defensive midfielder or full back so I think 13 goals in 2 seasons is pretty good considering.
Morgan only has 8 goals in 168 apperances so does that make him sh1t too??
All those of you saying 'he only plays the equivilant of league 1 football' may i remind you of where Ricki, Jayrod etc came from?? The bulk of our squad had never played outside of the Championship and League 1 untill this season just gone and I think they did pretty well dont you? Shaw hadnt even played outside of the under 21's untill this season....at least this guy has CL experiance and played against some of the best players in the world (and kept them quiet too)
So come on and give this guy a bloody break and get behind him if he signs.
This time next season we will all be saying that we got him on the cheap
I agree with your sentiments, if he signs, hopefully he will turn out to be a class act. and we will all welcome him.

Your player comparisons, however are not accurate as we didn't pay over £12m for Rickie, Morgan, etc and this is my only area of concern.


STID
[quote][p][bold]lemon cake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: know a few celtic fans and we have got quite a player. i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to come to St Marys this season. Starting to believe we can get into top 6.[/p][/quote]Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash[/p][/quote]13 goals in two seasons !!!! of course they want him gone if anyone is stupid enough to pay £12M for that. Fair enough if he was a midfield destroyer or holding player, but he is not, so how come he scored so few in the pub league ? I have spoken to a few celtic fans and they all rate him, they all said he has great skills and was a delight to watch, but he is not a goal scorer and so why on earth do we want him at that money ?[/p][/quote]what a Tw4t. Last time I looked he wasnt a striker but a defensive midfielder or full back so I think 13 goals in 2 seasons is pretty good considering. Morgan only has 8 goals in 168 apperances so does that make him sh1t too?? All those of you saying 'he only plays the equivilant of league 1 football' may i remind you of where Ricki, Jayrod etc came from?? The bulk of our squad had never played outside of the Championship and League 1 untill this season just gone and I think they did pretty well dont you? Shaw hadnt even played outside of the under 21's untill this season....at least this guy has CL experiance and played against some of the best players in the world (and kept them quiet too) So come on and give this guy a bloody break and get behind him if he signs. This time next season we will all be saying that we got him on the cheap[/p][/quote]I agree with your sentiments, if he signs, hopefully he will turn out to be a class act. and we will all welcome him. Your player comparisons, however are not accurate as we didn't pay over £12m for Rickie, Morgan, etc and this is my only area of concern. STID st1halo
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11:55am Wed 10 Jul 13

BracknellSaint says...

lemon cake wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
jerseysaint wrote:
know a few celtic fans and we have got
quite a player.
i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to
come to St Marys this season.
Starting to believe we can get into top 6.
Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash
13 goals in two seasons !!!! of course they want him gone if anyone is stupid enough to pay £12M for that. Fair enough if he was a midfield destroyer or holding player, but he is not, so how come he scored so few in the pub league ? I have spoken to a few celtic fans and they all rate him, they all said he has great skills and was a delight to watch, but he is not a goal scorer and so why on earth do we want him at that money ?
what a Tw4t.
Last time I looked he wasnt a striker but a defensive midfielder or full back so I think 13 goals in 2 seasons is pretty good considering.
Morgan only has 8 goals in 168 apperances so does that make him sh1t too??
All those of you saying 'he only plays the equivilant of league 1 football' may i remind you of where Ricki, Jayrod etc came from?? The bulk of our squad had never played outside of the Championship and League 1 untill this season just gone and I think they did pretty well dont you? Shaw hadnt even played outside of the under 21's untill this season....at least this guy has CL experiance and played against some of the best players in the world (and kept them quiet too)
So come on and give this guy a bloody break and get behind him if he signs.
This time next season we will all be saying that we got him on the cheap
Hope you're right lemoncake.
I see it that he's unproven and raw, but seems to have potential..
Ideally we'd get a couple of years out of him, then decide to either keep/build team around him, or sell him for 3times what we paid and reinvest in the team..
[quote][p][bold]lemon cake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: know a few celtic fans and we have got quite a player. i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to come to St Marys this season. Starting to believe we can get into top 6.[/p][/quote]Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash[/p][/quote]13 goals in two seasons !!!! of course they want him gone if anyone is stupid enough to pay £12M for that. Fair enough if he was a midfield destroyer or holding player, but he is not, so how come he scored so few in the pub league ? I have spoken to a few celtic fans and they all rate him, they all said he has great skills and was a delight to watch, but he is not a goal scorer and so why on earth do we want him at that money ?[/p][/quote]what a Tw4t. Last time I looked he wasnt a striker but a defensive midfielder or full back so I think 13 goals in 2 seasons is pretty good considering. Morgan only has 8 goals in 168 apperances so does that make him sh1t too?? All those of you saying 'he only plays the equivilant of league 1 football' may i remind you of where Ricki, Jayrod etc came from?? The bulk of our squad had never played outside of the Championship and League 1 untill this season just gone and I think they did pretty well dont you? Shaw hadnt even played outside of the under 21's untill this season....at least this guy has CL experiance and played against some of the best players in the world (and kept them quiet too) So come on and give this guy a bloody break and get behind him if he signs. This time next season we will all be saying that we got him on the cheap[/p][/quote]Hope you're right lemoncake. I see it that he's unproven and raw, but seems to have potential.. Ideally we'd get a couple of years out of him, then decide to either keep/build team around him, or sell him for 3times what we paid and reinvest in the team.. BracknellSaint
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12:06pm Wed 10 Jul 13

st1halo says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
Kernowsaints wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend
don't the skates need players he may fit in there
and there must be female skate fans of some kind although i shudder at the thought would he deserve either
What do you call a female skate though?
Are they 'skunts' too? Or just skanks?
Or both?
How can you tell them apart anyway?
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kernowsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend[/p][/quote]don't the skates need players he may fit in there and there must be female skate fans of some kind although i shudder at the thought would he deserve either[/p][/quote]What do you call a female skate though? Are they 'skunts' too? Or just skanks? Or both?[/p][/quote]How can you tell them apart anyway? st1halo
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12:11pm Wed 10 Jul 13

BracknellSaint says...

The same way you'd tell the difference between your sister, mum and aunt...
Ah....hmm...
The same way you'd tell the difference between your sister, mum and aunt... Ah....hmm... BracknellSaint
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12:17pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Ach I The Noo wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Come on Victor, you know you want to!
And the first of the multi faced Saints fans shows up early today.

If I remember correctly, you've said Vic didn't look that special, is just a mercenary and basically is just not that good.

You will not be alone. Loads of other Saints clowns are swapping directions more than a wind vane in a hurricane.

Try and KLINGON to your principals starchild. Or beam off somewhere.......
So says Ach I the Knob...where in that post did I say anything about wanyama's quality? You really are a pr!ck
[quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: Come on Victor, you know you want to![/p][/quote]And the first of the multi faced Saints fans shows up early today. If I remember correctly, you've said Vic didn't look that special, is just a mercenary and basically is just not that good. You will not be alone. Loads of other Saints clowns are swapping directions more than a wind vane in a hurricane. Try and KLINGON to your principals starchild. Or beam off somewhere.......[/p][/quote]So says Ach I the Knob...where in that post did I say anything about wanyama's quality? You really are a pr!ck Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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12:33pm Wed 10 Jul 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend
Any chance that we ALL ignor him? I know it is a bit pot / kettle stuff but it would be the best policy.
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend[/p][/quote]Any chance that we ALL ignor him? I know it is a bit pot / kettle stuff but it would be the best policy. OSPREYSAINT
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12:41pm Wed 10 Jul 13

JohnItaly says...

Do I sense another late afternoon / early evening announcement that Wanyama is a Saint?
Do I sense another late afternoon / early evening announcement that Wanyama is a Saint? JohnItaly
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12:43pm Wed 10 Jul 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

st1halo wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Kernowsaints wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend
don't the skates need players he may fit in there
and there must be female skate fans of some kind although i shudder at the thought would he deserve either
What do you call a female skate though?
Are they 'skunts' too? Or just skanks?
Or both?
How can you tell them apart anyway?
Why on earth would you want to anyway?
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kernowsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend[/p][/quote]don't the skates need players he may fit in there and there must be female skate fans of some kind although i shudder at the thought would he deserve either[/p][/quote]What do you call a female skate though? Are they 'skunts' too? Or just skanks? Or both?[/p][/quote]How can you tell them apart anyway?[/p][/quote]Why on earth would you want to anyway? OSPREYSAINT
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12:47pm Wed 10 Jul 13

BracknellSaint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Kernowsaints wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend
don't the skates need players he may fit in there
and there must be female skate fans of some kind although i shudder at the thought would he deserve either
What do you call a female skate though?
Are they 'skunts' too? Or just skanks?
Or both?
How can you tell them apart anyway?
Why on earth would you want to anyway?
To warn anyone unsuspecting of the foul mess they could get themselves in.
Like the pictures of diseased lungs they put on cigarette boxes..
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kernowsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend[/p][/quote]don't the skates need players he may fit in there and there must be female skate fans of some kind although i shudder at the thought would he deserve either[/p][/quote]What do you call a female skate though? Are they 'skunts' too? Or just skanks? Or both?[/p][/quote]How can you tell them apart anyway?[/p][/quote]Why on earth would you want to anyway?[/p][/quote]To warn anyone unsuspecting of the foul mess they could get themselves in. Like the pictures of diseased lungs they put on cigarette boxes.. BracknellSaint
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12:51pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

I must agree with Osprey, If anyone sees my dancing monkey best completely ignore him from now on. I made him jump and dance and he did exactly as he was told for a day or two but I think we should now just delete him from existence.

We absolutely completely own him so the shhhhh approach is best I think.
I must agree with Osprey, If anyone sees my dancing monkey best completely ignore him from now on. I made him jump and dance and he did exactly as he was told for a day or two but I think we should now just delete him from existence. We absolutely completely own him so the shhhhh approach is best I think. Alicesdad
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12:52pm Wed 10 Jul 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Redrobbo wrote:
He has just been spotted at Eastleigh Airport with a certain Michael Owen who is apparantly going to sign for us.
Plane spotter? Two interesting business aircraft arrived this morning, one was Manx the other from the Czech Republic, don't think any footballers were in them!
[quote][p][bold]Redrobbo[/bold] wrote: He has just been spotted at Eastleigh Airport with a certain Michael Owen who is apparantly going to sign for us.[/p][/quote]Plane spotter? Two interesting business aircraft arrived this morning, one was Manx the other from the Czech Republic, don't think any footballers were in them! OSPREYSAINT
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12:54pm Wed 10 Jul 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Kernowsaints wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend
don't the skates need players he may fit in there
and there must be female skate fans of some kind although i shudder at the thought would he deserve either
What do you call a female skate though?
Are they 'skunts' too? Or just skanks?
Or both?
How can you tell them apart anyway?
Why on earth would you want to anyway?
To warn anyone unsuspecting of the foul mess they could get themselves in.
Like the pictures of diseased lungs they put on cigarette boxes..
No I don't "Like the pictures of diseased lungs they put on cigarette boxes".
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kernowsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend[/p][/quote]don't the skates need players he may fit in there and there must be female skate fans of some kind although i shudder at the thought would he deserve either[/p][/quote]What do you call a female skate though? Are they 'skunts' too? Or just skanks? Or both?[/p][/quote]How can you tell them apart anyway?[/p][/quote]Why on earth would you want to anyway?[/p][/quote]To warn anyone unsuspecting of the foul mess they could get themselves in. Like the pictures of diseased lungs they put on cigarette boxes..[/p][/quote]No I don't "Like the pictures of diseased lungs they put on cigarette boxes". OSPREYSAINT
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12:59pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Beer Monster says...

Alicesdad wrote:
I must agree with Osprey, If anyone sees my dancing monkey best completely ignore him from now on. I made him jump and dance and he did exactly as he was told for a day or two but I think we should now just delete him from existence.

We absolutely completely own him so the shhhhh approach is best I think.
Barry the Baptist: "F@&*ing northern monkeys"
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: I must agree with Osprey, If anyone sees my dancing monkey best completely ignore him from now on. I made him jump and dance and he did exactly as he was told for a day or two but I think we should now just delete him from existence. We absolutely completely own him so the shhhhh approach is best I think.[/p][/quote]Barry the Baptist: "F@&*ing northern monkeys" Beer Monster
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1:08pm Wed 10 Jul 13

costa gaz says...

Regarding our resident sweaty.

Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Regarding our resident sweaty. Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience. costa gaz
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1:14pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Satyricon Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend
Any chance that we ALL ignor him? I know it is a bit pot / kettle stuff but it would be the best policy.
Hear hear
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend[/p][/quote]Any chance that we ALL ignor him? I know it is a bit pot / kettle stuff but it would be the best policy.[/p][/quote]Hear hear Satyricon Saint
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1:20pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

business-guru wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
jerseysaint wrote:
know a few celtic fans and we have got
quite a player.
i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to
come to St Marys this season.
Starting to believe we can get into top 6.
Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash
13 goals in two seasons !!!! of course they want him gone if anyone is stupid enough to pay £12M for that. Fair enough if he was a midfield destroyer or holding player, but he is not, so how come he scored so few in the pub league ? I have spoken to a few celtic fans and they all rate him, they all said he has great skills and was a delight to watch, but he is not a goal scorer and so why on earth do we want him at that money ?
I think you need to watch Saintysaintsaint(sai


nt)s youtube video mate for starters.
It looks like he sits in the middle of park breaking up play and moving the ball on simply.
If he does this with Morgan as well as he has done this with Celtic he could be an amazing investment.
celtic are div1 side, we are in the Prem.... If you put Cork or MS in the celtic side they would look like Maradona.... You have got to understand the level of football up there, its dire. Furthermore, Saints need someone who knows where the back of the net is. Fair play to AL , and other "attacking" midfield options we have used, they have all found it hard to score and this was expected but there is not point signing this guy unless we also have goal scorer(s). Regards "agents" fees etc etc , this is all a nonsense, the Agents fees should be paid by the player. Its upto him what chunk of his fee he waves goodbye to.
Well haven't got time during lunch to rip apart all you Muppets so I'll be selective and start with you.

Quite possibly Cork or MS in our side could look like Maradona. But then again, he is 52 and only slightly fatter than your head.....
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: know a few celtic fans and we have got quite a player. i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to come to St Marys this season. Starting to believe we can get into top 6.[/p][/quote]Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash[/p][/quote]13 goals in two seasons !!!! of course they want him gone if anyone is stupid enough to pay £12M for that. Fair enough if he was a midfield destroyer or holding player, but he is not, so how come he scored so few in the pub league ? I have spoken to a few celtic fans and they all rate him, they all said he has great skills and was a delight to watch, but he is not a goal scorer and so why on earth do we want him at that money ?[/p][/quote]I think you need to watch Saintysaintsaint(sai nt)s youtube video mate for starters. It looks like he sits in the middle of park breaking up play and moving the ball on simply. If he does this with Morgan as well as he has done this with Celtic he could be an amazing investment.[/p][/quote]celtic are div1 side, we are in the Prem.... If you put Cork or MS in the celtic side they would look like Maradona.... You have got to understand the level of football up there, its dire. Furthermore, Saints need someone who knows where the back of the net is. Fair play to AL , and other "attacking" midfield options we have used, they have all found it hard to score and this was expected but there is not point signing this guy unless we also have goal scorer(s). Regards "agents" fees etc etc , this is all a nonsense, the Agents fees should be paid by the player. Its upto him what chunk of his fee he waves goodbye to.[/p][/quote]Well haven't got time during lunch to rip apart all you Muppets so I'll be selective and start with you. Quite possibly Cork or MS in our side could look like Maradona. But then again, he is 52 and only slightly fatter than your head..... Ach I The Noo
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1:22pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend
Your namesake managed without either.

His teachings still became legendary.

Just like mine..............
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: Can someone get "Ach I The Noo" a job or a girlfriend[/p][/quote]Your namesake managed without either. His teachings still became legendary. Just like mine.............. Ach I The Noo
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1:24pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Satyricon Saint says...

One confirmed signing and Shaw to sign a new contract. If that happens, perfect start to my weekend
One confirmed signing and Shaw to sign a new contract. If that happens, perfect start to my weekend Satyricon Saint
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1:25pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

Mister E wrote:
Ach I The Noo wrote:
Anyway.

Off to see the Ashes.

C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!!
The only time's I've commented on sites directly linked with another club was to comment, appropriately and respectfully, for example when Marc Vivien Foe passed away (may he rest in peace) and when Fabrice Muamba collapsed.
My point is you spend a lot of time on here, SO, we are either very important to you, or, as I've said before, Saints fans have more class.
Looks like your arrogance gene is getting out of control again. Obviously your horsey traits are worried about becoming a beefburger.

I respect ANYBODY's right to comment on subjects involving their own team. Wherever they may be.

You prefer keeping things "internal". Must be a family thing....
[quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: Anyway. Off to see the Ashes. C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!![/p][/quote]The only time's I've commented on sites directly linked with another club was to comment, appropriately and respectfully, for example when Marc Vivien Foe passed away (may he rest in peace) and when Fabrice Muamba collapsed. My point is you spend a lot of time on here, SO, we are either very important to you, or, as I've said before, Saints fans have more class.[/p][/quote]Looks like your arrogance gene is getting out of control again. Obviously your horsey traits are worried about becoming a beefburger. I respect ANYBODY's right to comment on subjects involving their own team. Wherever they may be. You prefer keeping things "internal". Must be a family thing.... Ach I The Noo
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1:26pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

st1halo wrote:
Ach I The Noo wrote:
Anyway.

Off to see the Ashes.

C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!!
Doest that mean you are switching the tv on, Alicesbiatch!

Can't imagine a true Scot "paying" to watch the English.

STID
I'm not.

I'm paying to watch the Aussies......
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: Anyway. Off to see the Ashes. C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!![/p][/quote]Doest that mean you are switching the tv on, Alicesbiatch! Can't imagine a true Scot "paying" to watch the English. STID[/p][/quote]I'm not. I'm paying to watch the Aussies...... Ach I The Noo
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1:29pm Wed 10 Jul 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

I'll be back if there is some real news.
I'll be back if there is some real news. OSPREYSAINT
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1:29pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Mister E says...

Eyefootball seem to be suggesting now that it's a done deal! If so, welcome aboard, give your best and you'll get the best support!
Eyefootball seem to be suggesting now that it's a done deal! If so, welcome aboard, give your best and you'll get the best support! Mister E
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1:31pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Ach I The Noo wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Come on Victor, you know you want to!
And the first of the multi faced Saints fans shows up early today.

If I remember correctly, you've said Vic didn't look that special, is just a mercenary and basically is just not that good.

You will not be alone. Loads of other Saints clowns are swapping directions more than a wind vane in a hurricane.

Try and KLINGON to your principals starchild. Or beam off somewhere.......
So says Ach I the Knob...where in that post did I say anything about wanyama's quality? You really are a pr!ck
Well my pr!ck obviously has more of a memory than you do B@stard Child.

Where did I say "in that post" ?

Read it again. Get your tricorder out of !diot mode and review it.

The words "if I remember" gives a wee clue to the clueless. Now are you denying saying these things on earlier threads ?

C'mon c'mon......
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: Come on Victor, you know you want to![/p][/quote]And the first of the multi faced Saints fans shows up early today. If I remember correctly, you've said Vic didn't look that special, is just a mercenary and basically is just not that good. You will not be alone. Loads of other Saints clowns are swapping directions more than a wind vane in a hurricane. Try and KLINGON to your principals starchild. Or beam off somewhere.......[/p][/quote]So says Ach I the Knob...where in that post did I say anything about wanyama's quality? You really are a pr!ck[/p][/quote]Well my pr!ck obviously has more of a memory than you do B@stard Child. Where did I say "in that post" ? Read it again. Get your tricorder out of !diot mode and review it. The words "if I remember" gives a wee clue to the clueless. Now are you denying saying these things on earlier threads ? C'mon c'mon...... Ach I The Noo
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1:33pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

Alicesdad wrote:
I must agree with Osprey, If anyone sees my dancing monkey best completely ignore him from now on. I made him jump and dance and he did exactly as he was told for a day or two but I think we should now just delete him from existence.

We absolutely completely own him so the shhhhh approach is best I think.
Hmmm.

Keep saying it. You might even convince yourself.

Like the time you convinced yourself that you really are Alice's Dad.........
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: I must agree with Osprey, If anyone sees my dancing monkey best completely ignore him from now on. I made him jump and dance and he did exactly as he was told for a day or two but I think we should now just delete him from existence. We absolutely completely own him so the shhhhh approach is best I think.[/p][/quote]Hmmm. Keep saying it. You might even convince yourself. Like the time you convinced yourself that you really are Alice's Dad......... Ach I The Noo
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1:35pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

Right. Enjoyed that.

Back to the cricket.

You lot........Dismissed
Right. Enjoyed that. Back to the cricket. You lot........Dismissed Ach I The Noo
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1:49pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

so then, anyone else we got on the horizon?

This one will be over by tomorrow I think.

Shaw signs on Friday (which to me shows that he's got his head on right)
Banega would be interesting.

Anyone know if we have shown any interest in goalkeepers? I do rate Boruc - think he improved massively once he got some game time and I especially like the way he tries to keep the ball in hand rather than slap it away.
but I would like to see One other goalie in the squad with a bit more experience - Davis is ok, but I think if we are to push on his time with us is over. Gazzaniga is too inexperienced right now.

however having a much stronger defensive line is going to make a massive difference next season.
It's all looking rather rosy from where I'm sitting.
so then, anyone else we got on the horizon? This one will be over by tomorrow I think. Shaw signs on Friday (which to me shows that he's got his head on right) Banega would be interesting. Anyone know if we have shown any interest in goalkeepers? I do rate Boruc - think he improved massively once he got some game time and I especially like the way he tries to keep the ball in hand rather than slap it away. but I would like to see One other goalie in the squad with a bit more experience - Davis is ok, but I think if we are to push on his time with us is over. Gazzaniga is too inexperienced right now. however having a much stronger defensive line is going to make a massive difference next season. It's all looking rather rosy from where I'm sitting. Stroppy_gramps
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1:54pm Wed 10 Jul 13

boilerman says...

Ach I The Noo wrote:
Anyway.

Off to see the Ashes.

C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!!
What part of the country do you live ?
If Scotland is that great feck off back there.
[quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: Anyway. Off to see the Ashes. C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!![/p][/quote]What part of the country do you live ? If Scotland is that great feck off back there. boilerman
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2:01pm Wed 10 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

Ach I The Noo wrote:
Right. Enjoyed that.

Back to the cricket.

You lot........Dismissed
right go away and stay away you fool. I enjoy a good bit of banter and football chat with anyone, you however do not talk about football and are only here because people respond to you. you then get abusive, as you just did to capt kirk.......... if you abuse anyone else I will report you, and hope others will too. I don't care if you don't believe me but I am fed up with these threads becoming all about you and reading the abuse you give saints fans. these threads are for saints fans to discuss our team, fans from other teams are welcome of course, and like us as long as they stick to the rules they will be fine.
I will give you a quick tip, no one on here cares about you or even wants you here, you fool no one with the fake jock stuff, you are a wum and I doubt that this is your first login name, and wont be your last either. you will be found out again.
[quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: Right. Enjoyed that. Back to the cricket. You lot........Dismissed[/p][/quote]right go away and stay away you fool. I enjoy a good bit of banter and football chat with anyone, you however do not talk about football and are only here because people respond to you. you then get abusive, as you just did to capt kirk.......... if you abuse anyone else I will report you, and hope others will too. I don't care if you don't believe me but I am fed up with these threads becoming all about you and reading the abuse you give saints fans. these threads are for saints fans to discuss our team, fans from other teams are welcome of course, and like us as long as they stick to the rules they will be fine. I will give you a quick tip, no one on here cares about you or even wants you here, you fool no one with the fake jock stuff, you are a wum and I doubt that this is your first login name, and wont be your last either. you will be found out again. el caballo santos101
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2:24pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Mister E says...

Ach I The Noo wrote:
Mister E wrote:
Ach I The Noo wrote:
Anyway.

Off to see the Ashes.

C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!!
The only time's I've commented on sites directly linked with another club was to comment, appropriately and respectfully, for example when Marc Vivien Foe passed away (may he rest in peace) and when Fabrice Muamba collapsed.
My point is you spend a lot of time on here, SO, we are either very important to you, or, as I've said before, Saints fans have more class.
Looks like your arrogance gene is getting out of control again. Obviously your horsey traits are worried about becoming a beefburger.

I respect ANYBODY's right to comment on subjects involving their own team. Wherever they may be.

You prefer keeping things "internal". Must be a family thing....
Some of the posts you've made show you have no class. But, we are SO important to you, you're obsessed!
We're like the girlfriend you couldn't get! We're proving attractive to good players (men), and in your impotent, jealous way you resort to insults.
[quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: Anyway. Off to see the Ashes. C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!![/p][/quote]The only time's I've commented on sites directly linked with another club was to comment, appropriately and respectfully, for example when Marc Vivien Foe passed away (may he rest in peace) and when Fabrice Muamba collapsed. My point is you spend a lot of time on here, SO, we are either very important to you, or, as I've said before, Saints fans have more class.[/p][/quote]Looks like your arrogance gene is getting out of control again. Obviously your horsey traits are worried about becoming a beefburger. I respect ANYBODY's right to comment on subjects involving their own team. Wherever they may be. You prefer keeping things "internal". Must be a family thing....[/p][/quote]Some of the posts you've made show you have no class. But, we are SO important to you, you're obsessed! We're like the girlfriend you couldn't get! We're proving attractive to good players (men), and in your impotent, jealous way you resort to insults. Mister E
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2:32pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Buddy SFC says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
jerseysaint wrote:
know a few celtic fans and we have got
quite a player.
i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to
come to St Marys this season.
Starting to believe we can get into top 6.
Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash
He was brilliant against Barca ....................
......

Not a bad notch on the C.V ???????
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: know a few celtic fans and we have got quite a player. i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to come to St Marys this season. Starting to believe we can get into top 6.[/p][/quote]Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash[/p][/quote]He was brilliant against Barca .................... ...... Not a bad notch on the C.V ??????? Buddy SFC
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2:34pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Buddy SFC says...

Mister E wrote:
Ach I The Noo wrote:
Mister E wrote:
Ach I The Noo wrote:
Anyway.

Off to see the Ashes.

C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!!
The only time's I've commented on sites directly linked with another club was to comment, appropriately and respectfully, for example when Marc Vivien Foe passed away (may he rest in peace) and when Fabrice Muamba collapsed.
My point is you spend a lot of time on here, SO, we are either very important to you, or, as I've said before, Saints fans have more class.
Looks like your arrogance gene is getting out of control again. Obviously your horsey traits are worried about becoming a beefburger.

I respect ANYBODY's right to comment on subjects involving their own team. Wherever they may be.

You prefer keeping things "internal". Must be a family thing....
Some of the posts you've made show you have no class. But, we are SO important to you, you're obsessed!
We're like the girlfriend you couldn't get! We're proving attractive to good players (men), and in your impotent, jealous way you resort to insults.
Remember he is from the shadows of Farton Park and couldn't afford the drive up the M1 let alone being even slightly Scottish !
[quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: Anyway. Off to see the Ashes. C'MON YOU AUSSIES !!!![/p][/quote]The only time's I've commented on sites directly linked with another club was to comment, appropriately and respectfully, for example when Marc Vivien Foe passed away (may he rest in peace) and when Fabrice Muamba collapsed. My point is you spend a lot of time on here, SO, we are either very important to you, or, as I've said before, Saints fans have more class.[/p][/quote]Looks like your arrogance gene is getting out of control again. Obviously your horsey traits are worried about becoming a beefburger. I respect ANYBODY's right to comment on subjects involving their own team. Wherever they may be. You prefer keeping things "internal". Must be a family thing....[/p][/quote]Some of the posts you've made show you have no class. But, we are SO important to you, you're obsessed! We're like the girlfriend you couldn't get! We're proving attractive to good players (men), and in your impotent, jealous way you resort to insults.[/p][/quote]Remember he is from the shadows of Farton Park and couldn't afford the drive up the M1 let alone being even slightly Scottish ! Buddy SFC
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2:40pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Kernowsaints says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
jerseysaint wrote:
know a few celtic fans and we have got
quite a player.
i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to
come to St Marys this season.
Starting to believe we can get into top 6.
Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash
He was brilliant against Barca ....................

......

Not a bad notch on the C.V ???????
i havent seen much of him but what is on utub is pretty good he sems to be as solid back defending as he is in attacking. my one worry is nothing against celt but surely week in week out against epl isnt the same as it is going to be against the bigger pl teams like man u man city chelsea , im hoping he has a constant play lvl doesnt show much against the weekly spl teams
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: know a few celtic fans and we have got quite a player. i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to come to St Marys this season. Starting to believe we can get into top 6.[/p][/quote]Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash[/p][/quote]He was brilliant against Barca .................... ...... Not a bad notch on the C.V ???????[/p][/quote]i havent seen much of him but what is on utub is pretty good he sems to be as solid back defending as he is in attacking. my one worry is nothing against celt but surely week in week out against epl isnt the same as it is going to be against the bigger pl teams like man u man city chelsea , im hoping he has a constant play lvl doesnt show much against the weekly spl teams Kernowsaints
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2:53pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Just to confirm what I think we now know, Sky Sports have just reported this:

"Sky Sports understands that Southampton are set to wrap up the signing of Victor Wanyama in the next 48 hours. The Celtic midfielder will travel to the south coast on Wednesday evening, where the final details of a transfer will be thrashed out."

Sounds like the Don's getting his thrashing whip out.
Just to confirm what I think we now know, Sky Sports have just reported this: "Sky Sports understands that Southampton are set to wrap up the signing of Victor Wanyama in the next 48 hours. The Celtic midfielder will travel to the south coast on Wednesday evening, where the final details of a transfer will be thrashed out." Sounds like the Don's getting his thrashing whip out. Strasbourg Saint
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2:56pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Buddy SFC says...

Kernowsaints wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
jerseysaint wrote:
know a few celtic fans and we have got
quite a player.
i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to
come to St Marys this season.
Starting to believe we can get into top 6.
Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash
He was brilliant against Barca ....................


......

Not a bad notch on the C.V ???????
i havent seen much of him but what is on utub is pretty good he sems to be as solid back defending as he is in attacking. my one worry is nothing against celt but surely week in week out against epl isnt the same as it is going to be against the bigger pl teams like man u man city chelsea , im hoping he has a constant play lvl doesnt show much against the weekly spl teams
Much easier to stay motivated week in , week out in the EPL ......... In Scotland you have 3 or 4 big games a season !!
[quote][p][bold]Kernowsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote: know a few celtic fans and we have got quite a player. i think we are a force to be reckoned with and not many teams will want to come to St Marys this season. Starting to believe we can get into top 6.[/p][/quote]Celtic have given this guy such a big build up and to me it smacks of them wanting him gone............. or just possibly desperate for the cash[/p][/quote]He was brilliant against Barca .................... ...... Not a bad notch on the C.V ???????[/p][/quote]i havent seen much of him but what is on utub is pretty good he sems to be as solid back defending as he is in attacking. my one worry is nothing against celt but surely week in week out against epl isnt the same as it is going to be against the bigger pl teams like man u man city chelsea , im hoping he has a constant play lvl doesnt show much against the weekly spl teams[/p][/quote]Much easier to stay motivated week in , week out in the EPL ......... In Scotland you have 3 or 4 big games a season !! Buddy SFC
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3:03pm Wed 10 Jul 13

SaintMax says...

Twitter is going mad with chat about this going through, there are even quite a few Liverpool fans wanting them to go in for Morgan if and when Wanyanna is on board.
Common thread is that he is quite a catch and will be formidable with Spider in the middle of our defence.
Thanks to Ach I the Noo and co for warming him up for us until we wanted him. Perhaps we could recruit them as a feeder club?
Twitter is going mad with chat about this going through, there are even quite a few Liverpool fans wanting them to go in for Morgan if and when Wanyanna is on board. Common thread is that he is quite a catch and will be formidable with Spider in the middle of our defence. Thanks to Ach I the Noo and co for warming him up for us until we wanted him. Perhaps we could recruit them as a feeder club? SaintMax
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3:12pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Someone is trying to copy me now, but really isn't bright enough ... But I declare it's time to stop dancing and monkeying around.

"You are the urban spaceman monkey
Now here's the twist
You don't exist"
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Someone is trying to copy me now, but really isn't bright enough ... But I declare it's time to stop dancing and monkeying around. "You are the urban spaceman monkey Now here's the twist You don't exist" Alicesdad
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3:24pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Santa Retfordia says...

costa gaz wrote:
Regarding our resident sweaty.

Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Haha! This is good advice.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Regarding our resident sweaty. Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.[/p][/quote]Haha! This is good advice. Santa Retfordia
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3:31pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Mush On The Beach says...

Alicesdad wrote:
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Someone is trying to copy me now, but really isn't bright enough ... But I declare it's time to stop dancing and monkeying around.

"You are the urban spaceman monkey
Now here's the twist
You don't exist"
Time to take your Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band for a long walk Alice. Stop rubbing the lamp as a cankerous flea ridden fake sweaty mutt keeps appearing.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Someone is trying to copy me now, but really isn't bright enough ... But I declare it's time to stop dancing and monkeying around. "You are the urban spaceman monkey Now here's the twist You don't exist"[/p][/quote]Time to take your Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band for a long walk Alice. Stop rubbing the lamp as a cankerous flea ridden fake sweaty mutt keeps appearing. Mush On The Beach
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3:31pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Regarding our resident sweaty.

Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Haha! This is good advice.
Happy Birthday, Retford. Just sorry you'll have to put up with Boddingtons instead of proper 'southern' beer.

More importantly, assuming Shaw signs, he'll have done so expecting our raw, young talent to follow suit. So, have you thrashed out your 4-year Saints contract yet? If not, why not? Mercenary! Money grabber! I guess you’re just holding out for Manure to come in for you, eh?
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Regarding our resident sweaty. Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.[/p][/quote]Haha! This is good advice.[/p][/quote]Happy Birthday, Retford. Just sorry you'll have to put up with Boddingtons instead of proper 'southern' beer. More importantly, assuming Shaw signs, he'll have done so expecting our raw, young talent to follow suit. So, have you thrashed out your 4-year Saints contract yet? If not, why not? Mercenary! Money grabber! I guess you’re just holding out for Manure to come in for you, eh? Strasbourg Saint
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3:33pm Wed 10 Jul 13

andygoater1957 says...

Seen him play was good but still not £12m pound player.
Seen him play was good but still not £12m pound player. andygoater1957
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3:43pm Wed 10 Jul 13

TimCan says...

Sky Sports reporting Wanyama deal to be closed in next 48 hours - (he) travelling to Southampton to finalise deal and sort medical Wednesday early evening
Sky Sports reporting Wanyama deal to be closed in next 48 hours - (he) travelling to Southampton to finalise deal and sort medical Wednesday early evening TimCan
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3:55pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Stnana says...

TimCan wrote:
Sky Sports reporting Wanyama deal to be closed in next 48 hours - (he) travelling to Southampton to finalise deal and sort medical Wednesday early evening
So who's on airport watch ? 4.10 pm or 8.05pm.
[quote][p][bold]TimCan[/bold] wrote: Sky Sports reporting Wanyama deal to be closed in next 48 hours - (he) travelling to Southampton to finalise deal and sort medical Wednesday early evening[/p][/quote]So who's on airport watch ? 4.10 pm or 8.05pm. Stnana
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3:56pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

PS PS

Cricket's on again so I won't be back until tomorrow so all you brave Muppets can now come out again.

Oh, bu gger. I'll be banned. How the devil will I get round that.........
PS PS Cricket's on again so I won't be back until tomorrow so all you brave Muppets can now come out again. Oh, bu gger. I'll be banned. How the devil will I get round that......... Ach I The Noo
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3:57pm Wed 10 Jul 13

red&whitemachine says...

Kenyan Football Federation have congratulated Wanyama on his move to Saints. According to BBC.
Kenyan Football Federation have congratulated Wanyama on his move to Saints. According to BBC. red&whitemachine
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4:15pm Wed 10 Jul 13

ghk230473 says...

Ach I The Noo wrote:
PS PS

Cricket's on again so I won't be back until tomorrow so all you brave Muppets can now come out again.

Oh, bu gger. I'll be banned. How the devil will I get round that.........
Yer fack all without rangers, the leagues tin pot and standard dropping quicker every passing season.
Victor won't be the last to leave!
[quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: PS PS Cricket's on again so I won't be back until tomorrow so all you brave Muppets can now come out again. Oh, bu gger. I'll be banned. How the devil will I get round that.........[/p][/quote]Yer fack all without rangers, the leagues tin pot and standard dropping quicker every passing season. Victor won't be the last to leave! ghk230473
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4:16pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Confucious says...

andygoater1957 wrote:
Seen him play was good but still not £12m pound player.
Isn't it odd though how they always deal in round millions - or sometimes a half million.

We'd be amazed if he was signed for £11,867,457.32. And yet the odd £132,542.68 is an awful lot.
[quote][p][bold]andygoater1957[/bold] wrote: Seen him play was good but still not £12m pound player.[/p][/quote]Isn't it odd though how they always deal in round millions - or sometimes a half million. We'd be amazed if he was signed for £11,867,457.32. And yet the odd £132,542.68 is an awful lot. Confucious
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4:19pm Wed 10 Jul 13

slugger says...

If Mauricio wants him then so do I ......... COYR ..... (Happy birthday Baddesey Bill and St Retford).
If Mauricio wants him then so do I ......... COYR ..... (Happy birthday Baddesey Bill and St Retford). slugger
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4:19pm Wed 10 Jul 13

W Wallace says...

I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move. W Wallace
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4:22pm Wed 10 Jul 13

anderoo says...

According to Sky Sports, Wanyama is in London for a medical ahead of completing his move to Saints on thursday
According to Sky Sports, Wanyama is in London for a medical ahead of completing his move to Saints on thursday anderoo
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4:23pm Wed 10 Jul 13

deepheat says...

On VW wiki page it say's Victor now plays for Southampton.
On VW wiki page it say's Victor now plays for Southampton. deepheat
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4:24pm Wed 10 Jul 13

slugger says...

W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
[quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons . slugger
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4:28pm Wed 10 Jul 13

ghk230473 says...

W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
True, players tend to go to better clubs...... We'll have to see if Madrid or Barcelona eventually come in for him after he's joined us!;)
[quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]True, players tend to go to better clubs...... We'll have to see if Madrid or Barcelona eventually come in for him after he's joined us!;) ghk230473
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4:33pm Wed 10 Jul 13

BracknellSaint says...

deepheat wrote:
On VW wiki page it say's Victor now plays for Southampton.
It does indeed...intriguing.
..
on another nite, it shows him as in the Scottish Premier team of the year...
And I can honestly say I've never heard of any of the other ten...anyone else the same?
[quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: On VW wiki page it say's Victor now plays for Southampton.[/p][/quote]It does indeed...intriguing. .. on another nite, it shows him as in the Scottish Premier team of the year... And I can honestly say I've never heard of any of the other ten...anyone else the same? BracknellSaint
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4:33pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Mush On The Beach says...

W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Easy really. Celtic are a small club and he has burned his bridges of joining a big club in Scotland like Rangers. He sees what we all see down here, a massive exciting future and he wants to get on the bus.
I thought you were busy watching the cricket, just like every real sweaty does.
[quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Easy really. Celtic are a small club and he has burned his bridges of joining a big club in Scotland like Rangers. He sees what we all see down here, a massive exciting future and he wants to get on the bus. I thought you were busy watching the cricket, just like every real sweaty does. Mush On The Beach
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4:36pm Wed 10 Jul 13

deepheat says...

W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Even Neil Lennon said Southampton was the best club for the lad.
If VW had gone to a "bigger" club it wouldn't be good for him at this stage.
VW can be a big star at Southampton which is what he and the club want before he eventually moves to a "bigger" club and a mega bucks deal for Saints.
[quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Even Neil Lennon said Southampton was the best club for the lad. If VW had gone to a "bigger" club it wouldn't be good for him at this stage. VW can be a big star at Southampton which is what he and the club want before he eventually moves to a "bigger" club and a mega bucks deal for Saints. deepheat
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4:38pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Someone is trying to copy me now, but really isn't bright enough ... But I declare it's time to stop dancing and monkeying around.

"You are the urban spaceman monkey
Now here's the twist
You don't exist"
Time to take your Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band for a long walk Alice. Stop rubbing the lamp as a cankerous flea ridden fake sweaty mutt keeps appearing.
Wise words.
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Someone is trying to copy me now, but really isn't bright enough ... But I declare it's time to stop dancing and monkeying around. "You are the urban spaceman monkey Now here's the twist You don't exist"[/p][/quote]Time to take your Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band for a long walk Alice. Stop rubbing the lamp as a cankerous flea ridden fake sweaty mutt keeps appearing.[/p][/quote]Wise words. Alicesdad
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4:40pm Wed 10 Jul 13

BracknellSaint says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
deepheat wrote:
On VW wiki page it say's Victor now plays for Southampton.
It does indeed...intriguing.

..
on another nite, it shows him as in the Scottish Premier team of the year...
And I can honestly say I've never heard of any of the other ten...anyone else the same?
Although last week Miroslav Stoch's wiki page said he'd signed for us, but looking today that seems to have been removed...
guess we need to wait for the OS..
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: On VW wiki page it say's Victor now plays for Southampton.[/p][/quote]It does indeed...intriguing. .. on another nite, it shows him as in the Scottish Premier team of the year... And I can honestly say I've never heard of any of the other ten...anyone else the same?[/p][/quote]Although last week Miroslav Stoch's wiki page said he'd signed for us, but looking today that seems to have been removed... guess we need to wait for the OS.. BracknellSaint
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4:47pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

I predict a riot
I predict a riot Alicesdad
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4:48pm Wed 10 Jul 13

deepheat says...

Southampton F.C.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Southampton Wiki page has him in the First team squad now. I hope it's true.
Southampton F.C. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Southampton Wiki page has him in the First team squad now. I hope it's true. deepheat
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4:49pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Readeano says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
deepheat wrote:
On VW wiki page it say's Victor now plays for Southampton.
It does indeed...intriguing.


..
on another nite, it shows him as in the Scottish Premier team of the year...
And I can honestly say I've never heard of any of the other ten...anyone else the same?
Although last week Miroslav Stoch's wiki page said he'd signed for us, but looking today that seems to have been removed...
guess we need to wait for the OS..
The difference is Stoch's page wasn't done properly and was clearly edited by a random person this time the right sections have been added i.e Current Club Southampton is the Team not the town like Stoch, and to top it off the Time line for teams he has played for is correct and updated unlike Stoch this is offical and serious stuff

Get In Coyr
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: On VW wiki page it say's Victor now plays for Southampton.[/p][/quote]It does indeed...intriguing. .. on another nite, it shows him as in the Scottish Premier team of the year... And I can honestly say I've never heard of any of the other ten...anyone else the same?[/p][/quote]Although last week Miroslav Stoch's wiki page said he'd signed for us, but looking today that seems to have been removed... guess we need to wait for the OS..[/p][/quote]The difference is Stoch's page wasn't done properly and was clearly edited by a random person this time the right sections have been added i.e Current Club Southampton is the Team not the town like Stoch, and to top it off the Time line for teams he has played for is correct and updated unlike Stoch this is offical and serious stuff Get In Coyr Readeano
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4:58pm Wed 10 Jul 13

JohnItaly says...

anderoo wrote:
According to Sky Sports, Wanyama is in London for a medical ahead of completing his move to Saints on thursday
If Sky Sports "understands" it is usually right - so on to the next transfer saga.
[quote][p][bold]anderoo[/bold] wrote: According to Sky Sports, Wanyama is in London for a medical ahead of completing his move to Saints on thursday[/p][/quote]If Sky Sports "understands" it is usually right - so on to the next transfer saga. JohnItaly
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5:08pm Wed 10 Jul 13

deepheat says...

Wanyama's agent is the godfather to one of Graham Hunter's daughters.

Graham hunter tweet;

"Okay, the Victory #Wanyama situation is that he is in England today, deal with Southampton is v advanced but no medical today don't think"

http://kerrydalestre
et.co.uk/topic/87284
14/164/
Wanyama's agent is the godfather to one of Graham Hunter's daughters. Graham hunter tweet; "Okay, the Victory #Wanyama situation is that he is in England today, deal with Southampton is v advanced but no medical today don't think" http://kerrydalestre et.co.uk/topic/87284 14/164/ deepheat
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5:26pm Wed 10 Jul 13

saintand266 says...

Sounds like this drawn out transfer is nearing its climax, I've not really seen VW play much , only clips but seems like he might be great addition to the squad.
Now for Luke to put pen to paper !

Hopefully a striker won't be to long in sign to as we all acknowledge we need someone to assist Rickie.
Sounds like this drawn out transfer is nearing its climax, I've not really seen VW play much , only clips but seems like he might be great addition to the squad. Now for Luke to put pen to paper ! Hopefully a striker won't be to long in sign to as we all acknowledge we need someone to assist Rickie. saintand266
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5:33pm Wed 10 Jul 13

milton road says...

If he comes, it will be a good move for him. he has played a few good games in Europe but has mainly played his football against inferior opposition.If he comes to Saints it will put him on the big stage. He will be performing in one of the best leagues in the world. What happens from there depends on how both he and Saints do.
Most teams around us in the league last season have strengthened considerably.
So it is vital we make the correct signings if we are to progress.
IMO we need a clinical striker we did not score enough goals from number of chances created or amount of possession. We couldn't finish several games off when we had the upper hand. I think that will be the determining factor in a top 10 finish.
If he comes, it will be a good move for him. he has played a few good games in Europe but has mainly played his football against inferior opposition.If he comes to Saints it will put him on the big stage. He will be performing in one of the best leagues in the world. What happens from there depends on how both he and Saints do. Most teams around us in the league last season have strengthened considerably. So it is vital we make the correct signings if we are to progress. IMO we need a clinical striker we did not score enough goals from number of chances created or amount of possession. We couldn't finish several games off when we had the upper hand. I think that will be the determining factor in a top 10 finish. milton road
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5:34pm Wed 10 Jul 13

halo-man says...

I think when Shaw signs the new 5 year deal on Fri, two new players will be paraded
I think when Shaw signs the new 5 year deal on Fri, two new players will be paraded halo-man
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5:39pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool
Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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5:44pm Wed 10 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

from goal.com kenya

NEWS JUST IN: Victor Wanyama passes medical at English Premier League side Southampton, due to be unveiled in the next 48 hours, according to the Kenyan midfielder's father Noah Wanyama. The transfer fee of 12.5 Million pounds is a Scottish football transfer record.

sounds almost done then.
from goal.com kenya NEWS JUST IN: Victor Wanyama passes medical at English Premier League side Southampton, due to be unveiled in the next 48 hours, according to the Kenyan midfielder's father Noah Wanyama. The transfer fee of 12.5 Million pounds is a Scottish football transfer record. sounds almost done then. el caballo santos101
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5:47pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool
Ignoring him is for the best...you will notice his desperation to get a response...he really doesn't like being ignored...and I really like the fact that he doesn't like it...that's why I like to ignore him! :O)
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool[/p][/quote]Ignoring him is for the best...you will notice his desperation to get a response...he really doesn't like being ignored...and I really like the fact that he doesn't like it...that's why I like to ignore him! :O) Baddesley Bill
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5:49pm Wed 10 Jul 13

SaintJimmer says...

This is what the Daily Record Sport is reporting...........
.........


VICTOR WANYAMA is set to join Southampton over the next 48 hours in a £12.5million deal that smashes the Scottish transfer record.

Record Sport can reveal negotiations between Celtic and Saints have accelerated and the SPL champions have accepted the jaw-dropping bid.

Wanyama was due to play in Celtic’s 6-2 friendly defeat to German side Greuther Fruth last night but it’s understood he stayed at the team hotel in Berlin to help tie up his move to St Mary’s.

The deal blows away the previous transfer record of £11m that Spartak Moscow paid Celtic for Aiden McGeady in the summer of 2010.

Saints boss Mauricio Pochettino thought he’d landed the 22-year-old Kenyan for £12m but the club had to increase the offer after soaring interest from Cardiff City.

Parkhead powerbroker Peter Lawwell has all but concluded business with Saints chief Nicola Cortese and personal terms have been agreed with the player. All parties expect to be in a position to announce the deal by Friday at the latest.

Wanyama has told friends he expects to say his goodbyes to Neil Lennon and his team-mates later today at their German training camp. The Kenya skipper was bought for just £900,000 from Beerschot two years ago and his move is fantastic business for Celtic.
This is what the Daily Record Sport is reporting........... ......... VICTOR WANYAMA is set to join Southampton over the next 48 hours in a £12.5million deal that smashes the Scottish transfer record. Record Sport can reveal negotiations between Celtic and Saints have accelerated and the SPL champions have accepted the jaw-dropping bid. Wanyama was due to play in Celtic’s 6-2 friendly defeat to German side Greuther Fruth last night but it’s understood he stayed at the team hotel in Berlin to help tie up his move to St Mary’s. The deal blows away the previous transfer record of £11m that Spartak Moscow paid Celtic for Aiden McGeady in the summer of 2010. Saints boss Mauricio Pochettino thought he’d landed the 22-year-old Kenyan for £12m but the club had to increase the offer after soaring interest from Cardiff City. Parkhead powerbroker Peter Lawwell has all but concluded business with Saints chief Nicola Cortese and personal terms have been agreed with the player. All parties expect to be in a position to announce the deal by Friday at the latest. Wanyama has told friends he expects to say his goodbyes to Neil Lennon and his team-mates later today at their German training camp. The Kenya skipper was bought for just £900,000 from Beerschot two years ago and his move is fantastic business for Celtic. SaintJimmer
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5:49pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool
Ignoring him is for the best...you will notice his desperation to get a response...he really doesn't like being ignored...and I really like the fact that he doesn't like it...that's why I like to ignore him! :O)
Sooo hurt.....
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool[/p][/quote]Ignoring him is for the best...you will notice his desperation to get a response...he really doesn't like being ignored...and I really like the fact that he doesn't like it...that's why I like to ignore him! :O)[/p][/quote]Sooo hurt..... Ach I The Noo
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6:01pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

well that's interesting.

it will be nice to see this one come to an end.
If it is all true, I hope he makes a valuable addition to the squad and is well worth the price tag.
well that's interesting. it will be nice to see this one come to an end. If it is all true, I hope he makes a valuable addition to the squad and is well worth the price tag. Stroppy_gramps
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6:08pm Wed 10 Jul 13

oh when the saints says...

Just heard reports from a very reliable source that saints fc are to announce the signature of him tomorrow!!!
Just heard reports from a very reliable source that saints fc are to announce the signature of him tomorrow!!! oh when the saints
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6:19pm Wed 10 Jul 13

dirtyweasel says...

slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago. dirtyweasel
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6:20pm Wed 10 Jul 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

oh when the saints wrote:
Just heard reports from a very reliable source that saints fc are to announce the signature of him tomorrow!!!
St Mirren or St Johnstone?
[quote][p][bold]oh when the saints[/bold] wrote: Just heard reports from a very reliable source that saints fc are to announce the signature of him tomorrow!!![/p][/quote]St Mirren or St Johnstone? OSPREYSAINT
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6:24pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Salar says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Someone is trying to copy me now, but really isn't bright enough ... But I declare it's time to stop dancing and monkeying around.

"You are the urban spaceman monkey
Now here's the twist
You don't exist"
Time to take your Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band for a long walk Alice. Stop rubbing the lamp as a cankerous flea ridden fake sweaty mutt keeps appearing.
Post of the day on this thread. had good laugh! Thanks.
COYR
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Someone is trying to copy me now, but really isn't bright enough ... But I declare it's time to stop dancing and monkeying around. "You are the urban spaceman monkey Now here's the twist You don't exist"[/p][/quote]Time to take your Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band for a long walk Alice. Stop rubbing the lamp as a cankerous flea ridden fake sweaty mutt keeps appearing.[/p][/quote]Post of the day on this thread. had good laugh! Thanks. COYR Salar
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6:27pm Wed 10 Jul 13

dirtyweasel says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool
You can't argue with him because he runs rings round you,I find this board funny,
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool[/p][/quote]You can't argue with him because he runs rings round you,I find this board funny, dirtyweasel
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6:32pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool
Ignoring him is for the best...you will notice his desperation to get a response...he really doesn't like being ignored...and I really like the fact that he doesn't like it...that's why I like to ignore him! :O)
Like to ignore who, Bill?

Oh, and happy birthday - drinks on Slugger, I suppose.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool[/p][/quote]Ignoring him is for the best...you will notice his desperation to get a response...he really doesn't like being ignored...and I really like the fact that he doesn't like it...that's why I like to ignore him! :O)[/p][/quote]Like to ignore who, Bill? Oh, and happy birthday - drinks on Slugger, I suppose. Strasbourg Saint
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6:35pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
oh when the saints wrote:
Just heard reports from a very reliable source that saints fc are to announce the signature of him tomorrow!!!
St Mirren or St Johnstone?
St Kilda.

(That's one for Mush and Pete)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oh when the saints[/bold] wrote: Just heard reports from a very reliable source that saints fc are to announce the signature of him tomorrow!!![/p][/quote]St Mirren or St Johnstone?[/p][/quote]St Kilda. (That's one for Mush and Pete) Strasbourg Saint
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6:42pm Wed 10 Jul 13

DisplacedFan says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote: Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool
Ignoring him is for the best...you will notice his desperation to get a response...he really doesn't like being ignored...and I really like the fact that he doesn't like it...that's why I like to ignore him! :O)
Like to ignore who, Bill? Oh, and happy birthday - drinks on Slugger, I suppose.
He does deserve to be ignored. As Queen Victoria was often quoted saying in reference to those Picts, "We are not amused".
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool[/p][/quote]Ignoring him is for the best...you will notice his desperation to get a response...he really doesn't like being ignored...and I really like the fact that he doesn't like it...that's why I like to ignore him! :O)[/p][/quote]Like to ignore who, Bill? Oh, and happy birthday - drinks on Slugger, I suppose.[/p][/quote]He does deserve to be ignored. As Queen Victoria was often quoted saying in reference to those Picts, "We are not amused". DisplacedFan
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6:42pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
I honestly thought sacking AP was a gamble...NA too...

NC is proving to be quite good at gambling....and in the great scheme of PL club purchases...12mill isn't exactly make or break....although I concede the player has to step up to the mark.

If a "big" Club came in for him...we wouldn't have signed him...you can't have it both ways.
[quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]I honestly thought sacking AP was a gamble...NA too... NC is proving to be quite good at gambling....and in the great scheme of PL club purchases...12mill isn't exactly make or break....although I concede the player has to step up to the mark. If a "big" Club came in for him...we wouldn't have signed him...you can't have it both ways. Baddesley Bill
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6:43pm Wed 10 Jul 13

slugger says...

dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
Was I talking to you ? ....... the answer is no ...... Do one "mate" !
[quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]Was I talking to you ? ....... the answer is no ...... Do one "mate" ! slugger
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6:49pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

dirtyweasel wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool
You can't argue with him because he runs rings round you,I find this board funny,
Didn't say I would ignore you though! Unless you are Ach I in disguise? Anyway, he claims I said things on other threads but he talks total rubbish. I did say I had only seen one YouTube vid of wanyama (meaning not much to base an opinion on) and in that vid Barca gave him a lot of space and he didn't do anything particularly great with it. I also said I thought Banega was the better option and I stand by that (if indeed they are alternatives and we don't end up buying both!). I then post (second in this thread) saying come on Vic you know you want to and knOb the Jock then posts his drivel about many faces etc. he is just a fool and not worth the effort. Someone told me before that if I argued with him he would then line up his mates (probably fake accounts) to say he had bested me. He really is just a Wum with a capital W and not worth bothering about. That was my last word about Ach I the kn0b
[quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool[/p][/quote]You can't argue with him because he runs rings round you,I find this board funny,[/p][/quote]Didn't say I would ignore you though! Unless you are Ach I in disguise? Anyway, he claims I said things on other threads but he talks total rubbish. I did say I had only seen one YouTube vid of wanyama (meaning not much to base an opinion on) and in that vid Barca gave him a lot of space and he didn't do anything particularly great with it. I also said I thought Banega was the better option and I stand by that (if indeed they are alternatives and we don't end up buying both!). I then post (second in this thread) saying come on Vic you know you want to and knOb the Jock then posts his drivel about many faces etc. he is just a fool and not worth the effort. Someone told me before that if I argued with him he would then line up his mates (probably fake accounts) to say he had bested me. He really is just a Wum with a capital W and not worth bothering about. That was my last word about Ach I the kn0b Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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8:25pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Clever Dick says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool
You can't argue with him because he runs rings round you,I find this board funny,
Didn't say I would ignore you though! Unless you are Ach I in disguise? Anyway, he claims I said things on other threads but he talks total rubbish. I did say I had only seen one YouTube vid of wanyama (meaning not much to base an opinion on) and in that vid Barca gave him a lot of space and he didn't do anything particularly great with it. I also said I thought Banega was the better option and I stand by that (if indeed they are alternatives and we don't end up buying both!). I then post (second in this thread) saying come on Vic you know you want to and knOb the Jock then posts his drivel about many faces etc. he is just a fool and not worth the effort. Someone told me before that if I argued with him he would then line up his mates (probably fake accounts) to say he had bested me. He really is just a Wum with a capital W and not worth bothering about. That was my last word about Ach I the kn0b
Very wise. I've won many an argument with him too but he's so stupid it's just not worth the effort. He makes 5 brain cells seem intelligent. It's so easy to get an abusive response from him that it can get boring in the end. Best to ignore the ignorant. That reminds me I mustn't miss wicked tuna this week. Another case of throwing a morsel and reeling in a big one.
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool[/p][/quote]You can't argue with him because he runs rings round you,I find this board funny,[/p][/quote]Didn't say I would ignore you though! Unless you are Ach I in disguise? Anyway, he claims I said things on other threads but he talks total rubbish. I did say I had only seen one YouTube vid of wanyama (meaning not much to base an opinion on) and in that vid Barca gave him a lot of space and he didn't do anything particularly great with it. I also said I thought Banega was the better option and I stand by that (if indeed they are alternatives and we don't end up buying both!). I then post (second in this thread) saying come on Vic you know you want to and knOb the Jock then posts his drivel about many faces etc. he is just a fool and not worth the effort. Someone told me before that if I argued with him he would then line up his mates (probably fake accounts) to say he had bested me. He really is just a Wum with a capital W and not worth bothering about. That was my last word about Ach I the kn0b[/p][/quote]Very wise. I've won many an argument with him too but he's so stupid it's just not worth the effort. He makes 5 brain cells seem intelligent. It's so easy to get an abusive response from him that it can get boring in the end. Best to ignore the ignorant. That reminds me I mustn't miss wicked tuna this week. Another case of throwing a morsel and reeling in a big one. Clever Dick
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8:51pm Wed 10 Jul 13

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

What have we learnt today then everybody?

We might be signing someone ........ again.

Our resident fake Jock has serious mental problems (sorry, we knew that already.)

Dirtyweasel is easily impressed & intellectually challenged if he thinks Ach Eye The Nob has ever run rings around anyone or anything, except maybe his own @rsehole, or someone else's.

Meanwhile, back in the real World it's still too hot, but I managed to not fall asleep in any laybys today - result!
What have we learnt today then everybody? We might be signing someone ........ again. Our resident fake Jock has serious mental problems (sorry, we knew that already.) Dirtyweasel is easily impressed & intellectually challenged if he thinks Ach Eye The Nob has ever run rings around anyone or anything, except maybe his own @rsehole, or someone else's. Meanwhile, back in the real World it's still too hot, but I managed to not fall asleep in any laybys today - result! TPFKARTSNINZ
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8:57pm Wed 10 Jul 13

worried of n e hampshire says...

just shut up, he wins all the time cos you cant let go and he knows it.
just shut up, he wins all the time cos you cant let go and he knows it. worried of n e hampshire
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9:00pm Wed 10 Jul 13

dirtyweasel says...

slugger wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
Was I talking to you ? ....... the answer is no ...... Do one "mate" !
Do 1 what mate,very strange
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]Was I talking to you ? ....... the answer is no ...... Do one "mate" ![/p][/quote]Do 1 what mate,very strange dirtyweasel
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9:09pm Wed 10 Jul 13

dirtyweasel says...

TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
What have we learnt today then everybody?

We might be signing someone ........ again.

Our resident fake Jock has serious mental problems (sorry, we knew that already.)

Dirtyweasel is easily impressed & intellectually challenged if he thinks Ach Eye The Nob has ever run rings around anyone or anything, except maybe his own @rsehole, or someone else's.

Meanwhile, back in the real World it's still too hot, but I managed to not fall asleep in any laybys today - result!
Now that i take offence to ,you can find me in the Chilworth arms when your ready to concede your out of order son,For the record the jock fella has owned all i have seen converse with him,
[quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: What have we learnt today then everybody? We might be signing someone ........ again. Our resident fake Jock has serious mental problems (sorry, we knew that already.) Dirtyweasel is easily impressed & intellectually challenged if he thinks Ach Eye The Nob has ever run rings around anyone or anything, except maybe his own @rsehole, or someone else's. Meanwhile, back in the real World it's still too hot, but I managed to not fall asleep in any laybys today - result![/p][/quote]Now that i take offence to ,you can find me in the Chilworth arms when your ready to concede your out of order son,For the record the jock fella has owned all i have seen converse with him, dirtyweasel
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9:16pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Meanwhile, back in the land of sensible footy comment, I see that Chelsea and Man City have both followed our lead and, as back up, have given contracts to older (sorry Kelv) goalies.

Seems strange to me (not Kelv, Wright and Schwarzer) but there you go.
Meanwhile, back in the land of sensible footy comment, I see that Chelsea and Man City have both followed our lead and, as back up, have given contracts to older (sorry Kelv) goalies. Seems strange to me (not Kelv, Wright and Schwarzer) but there you go. Strasbourg Saint
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9:30pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

Here's what a real Celtic supporter makes of Wanyama

http://georgeweahsco
usin.com/2013/07/10/
mad-about-the-bhoy/
Here's what a real Celtic supporter makes of Wanyama http://georgeweahsco usin.com/2013/07/10/ mad-about-the-bhoy/ Baddesley Bill
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9:37pm Wed 10 Jul 13

business-guru says...

dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
[quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price. business-guru
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9:43pm Wed 10 Jul 13

slugger says...

business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it . slugger
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9:47pm Wed 10 Jul 13

business-guru says...

slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL.... business-guru
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9:51pm Wed 10 Jul 13

slugger says...

business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much . slugger
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9:54pm Wed 10 Jul 13

angus mc coatup says...

business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Are you not a season ticket holder yourself then, mister guru.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Are you not a season ticket holder yourself then, mister guru. angus mc coatup
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9:56pm Wed 10 Jul 13

business-guru says...

slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .[/p][/quote]Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him. business-guru
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9:56pm Wed 10 Jul 13

slugger says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Are you not a season ticket holder yourself then, mister guru.
Not at SMS he isn't ....... Long live the PST ,(pmsl)
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Are you not a season ticket holder yourself then, mister guru.[/p][/quote]Not at SMS he isn't ....... Long live the PST ,(pmsl) slugger
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10:00pm Wed 10 Jul 13

angus mc coatup says...

business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.
£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .[/p][/quote]Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.[/p][/quote]£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old. angus mc coatup
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10:04pm Wed 10 Jul 13

slugger says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.
£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.
Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .[/p][/quote]Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.[/p][/quote]£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.[/p][/quote]Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ? slugger
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10:05pm Wed 10 Jul 13

milton road says...

If you go on BBC and look up Southampton and Ponch's interest, they have a video showing him scoring three goals.

The truth is as I see it, coming to Southampton is a step up, despite not having European football this season. He gets to play in one of the best leagues in the world at a club where he will be given time to establish himself. If he is as good as people think, then he will either get to Europe with Saints or move on in a couple of years.
Unfortunately whilst Celtic are a club with tradition, they are stuck in a division where most of the clubs are the equivalent of lower championship or league 1.
Whilst money cannot be ruled out as an interest on his part, as with any player. It is also true that he will want to play in one of the best leagues and test himself against some of the best players in the world. Then he and Saints will know his true worth.
That is if he signs of course.
If you go on BBC and look up Southampton and Ponch's interest, they have a video showing him scoring three goals. The truth is as I see it, coming to Southampton is a step up, despite not having European football this season. He gets to play in one of the best leagues in the world at a club where he will be given time to establish himself. If he is as good as people think, then he will either get to Europe with Saints or move on in a couple of years. Unfortunately whilst Celtic are a club with tradition, they are stuck in a division where most of the clubs are the equivalent of lower championship or league 1. Whilst money cannot be ruled out as an interest on his part, as with any player. It is also true that he will want to play in one of the best leagues and test himself against some of the best players in the world. Then he and Saints will know his true worth. That is if he signs of course. milton road
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10:11pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.
The reports I have read have suggested that the agent had to cave in to NC.

There is little previous evidence to make me think otherwise. NC does not suffers agents lightly.

Your "Guru" cloak seems to be slipping somewhat.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .[/p][/quote]Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.[/p][/quote]The reports I have read have suggested that the agent had to cave in to NC. There is little previous evidence to make me think otherwise. NC does not suffers agents lightly. Your "Guru" cloak seems to be slipping somewhat. Baddesley Bill
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10:12pm Wed 10 Jul 13

deepheat says...

Reports say the deal for VW is around £10 million and not £12.5 million. Good bit of negotiation if true. Just need to think up a good chant/nickname for VW now.
Reports say the deal for VW is around £10 million and not £12.5 million. Good bit of negotiation if true. Just need to think up a good chant/nickname for VW now. deepheat
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10:17pm Wed 10 Jul 13

business-guru says...

slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.
£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.
Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?
no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .[/p][/quote]Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.[/p][/quote]£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.[/p][/quote]Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?[/p][/quote]no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints. business-guru
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10:19pm Wed 10 Jul 13

angus mc coatup says...

slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Are you not a season ticket holder yourself then, mister guru.
Not at SMS he isn't ....... Long live the PST ,(pmsl)
Hmmm, not answering the season ticket question in hurry is he.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Are you not a season ticket holder yourself then, mister guru.[/p][/quote]Not at SMS he isn't ....... Long live the PST ,(pmsl)[/p][/quote]Hmmm, not answering the season ticket question in hurry is he. angus mc coatup
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10:25pm Wed 10 Jul 13

slugger says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Are you not a season ticket holder yourself then, mister guru.
Not at SMS he isn't ....... Long live the PST ,(pmsl)
Hmmm, not answering the season ticket question in hurry is he.
I'm bored with the wum's , they used to be fun , now they're tedious ...... or am I just getting older ?
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Are you not a season ticket holder yourself then, mister guru.[/p][/quote]Not at SMS he isn't ....... Long live the PST ,(pmsl)[/p][/quote]Hmmm, not answering the season ticket question in hurry is he.[/p][/quote]I'm bored with the wum's , they used to be fun , now they're tedious ...... or am I just getting older ? slugger
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10:25pm Wed 10 Jul 13

business-guru says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Are you not a season ticket holder yourself then, mister guru.
Not at SMS he isn't ....... Long live the PST ,(pmsl)
Hmmm, not answering the season ticket question in hurry is he.
I have use of a season ticket for this coming season.
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Are you not a season ticket holder yourself then, mister guru.[/p][/quote]Not at SMS he isn't ....... Long live the PST ,(pmsl)[/p][/quote]Hmmm, not answering the season ticket question in hurry is he.[/p][/quote]I have use of a season ticket for this coming season. business-guru
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10:33pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.
£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.
Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?
no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.
So what you are suggesting is a problem for all PL clubs then...

...why just Saints?
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .[/p][/quote]Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.[/p][/quote]£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.[/p][/quote]Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?[/p][/quote]no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.[/p][/quote]So what you are suggesting is a problem for all PL clubs then... ...why just Saints? Baddesley Bill
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10:42pm Wed 10 Jul 13

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

dirtyweasel wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
What have we learnt today then everybody?

We might be signing someone ........ again.

Our resident fake Jock has serious mental problems (sorry, we knew that already.)

Dirtyweasel is easily impressed & intellectually challenged if he thinks Ach Eye The Nob has ever run rings around anyone or anything, except maybe his own @rsehole, or someone else's.

Meanwhile, back in the real World it's still too hot, but I managed to not fall asleep in any laybys today - result!
Now that i take offence to ,you can find me in the Chilworth arms when your ready to concede your out of order son,For the record the jock fella has owned all i have seen converse with him,
Wasn't so much aimed at you, as the Fake Jock, but if the cap fits & you noticed a likeness then fill your boots 'son'.

PS; how would I recognise you in The Chilworth Arms anyway - do you wear a 'dirtyweasel' T-shirt by any chance, or are you cuddled up next to a ginger guy in a kilt?
[quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: What have we learnt today then everybody? We might be signing someone ........ again. Our resident fake Jock has serious mental problems (sorry, we knew that already.) Dirtyweasel is easily impressed & intellectually challenged if he thinks Ach Eye The Nob has ever run rings around anyone or anything, except maybe his own @rsehole, or someone else's. Meanwhile, back in the real World it's still too hot, but I managed to not fall asleep in any laybys today - result![/p][/quote]Now that i take offence to ,you can find me in the Chilworth arms when your ready to concede your out of order son,For the record the jock fella has owned all i have seen converse with him,[/p][/quote]Wasn't so much aimed at you, as the Fake Jock, but if the cap fits & you noticed a likeness then fill your boots 'son'. PS; how would I recognise you in The Chilworth Arms anyway - do you wear a 'dirtyweasel' T-shirt by any chance, or are you cuddled up next to a ginger guy in a kilt? TPFKARTSNINZ
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10:46pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Clever Dick says...

slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Are you not a season ticket holder yourself then, mister guru.
Not at SMS he isn't ....... Long live the PST ,(pmsl)
Hmmm, not answering the season ticket question in hurry is he.
I'm bored with the wum's , they used to be fun , now they're tedious ...... or am I just getting older ?
Well unfortunately we're all getting older. Even the wums. Hopefully eventually they will grow up. The only answer is a sustained shhhhh campaign as not everybody reads every topic. There is no doubt that not responding to them gets to them so everybody needs to be on board. That's not easy as proper football fans feel the need to respond to obviously stupid, jealous ,hate filled comments. We should remember that it is our club which is in the best league in the world and in a far superior position to theirs so we don't really have to score points against them. Let's all just sit back, ignore the idiots and look forward to some good signings and a great season ahead.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Are you not a season ticket holder yourself then, mister guru.[/p][/quote]Not at SMS he isn't ....... Long live the PST ,(pmsl)[/p][/quote]Hmmm, not answering the season ticket question in hurry is he.[/p][/quote]I'm bored with the wum's , they used to be fun , now they're tedious ...... or am I just getting older ?[/p][/quote]Well unfortunately we're all getting older. Even the wums. Hopefully eventually they will grow up. The only answer is a sustained shhhhh campaign as not everybody reads every topic. There is no doubt that not responding to them gets to them so everybody needs to be on board. That's not easy as proper football fans feel the need to respond to obviously stupid, jealous ,hate filled comments. We should remember that it is our club which is in the best league in the world and in a far superior position to theirs so we don't really have to score points against them. Let's all just sit back, ignore the idiots and look forward to some good signings and a great season ahead. Clever Dick
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10:48pm Wed 10 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.
£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.
Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?
no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.
I don't think anyone ridiculed you saying it, I think you will find that you stated that this was a `saints only contract`. you said that Newcastle didn't do this yet when asked to back this up and prove your point you called us/me lazy for not `picking up the phone`. not for me to prove you wrong is it? you made the claim so back it up! you claim to know a lot about everything and have friends `in the know` yet have never backed up any of your claims.
the thing you seem to forget is that no one cares who you are or who you think you are. you don't have to agree with the crowd but if you make grand claims you at least need to back them up, ad there are many ways of doing that.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .[/p][/quote]Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.[/p][/quote]£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.[/p][/quote]Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?[/p][/quote]no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.[/p][/quote]I don't think anyone ridiculed you saying it, I think you will find that you stated that this was a `saints only contract`. you said that Newcastle didn't do this yet when asked to back this up and prove your point you called us/me lazy for not `picking up the phone`. not for me to prove you wrong is it? you made the claim so back it up! you claim to know a lot about everything and have friends `in the know` yet have never backed up any of your claims. the thing you seem to forget is that no one cares who you are or who you think you are. you don't have to agree with the crowd but if you make grand claims you at least need to back them up, ad there are many ways of doing that. el caballo santos101
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10:57pm Wed 10 Jul 13

angus mc coatup says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.
£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.
Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?
no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.
I don't think anyone ridiculed you saying it, I think you will find that you stated that this was a `saints only contract`. you said that Newcastle didn't do this yet when asked to back this up and prove your point you called us/me lazy for not `picking up the phone`. not for me to prove you wrong is it? you made the claim so back it up! you claim to know a lot about everything and have friends `in the know` yet have never backed up any of your claims.
the thing you seem to forget is that no one cares who you are or who you think you are. you don't have to agree with the crowd but if you make grand claims you at least need to back them up, ad there are many ways of doing that.
He's now claiming to know the exact details of a contract, drawn up by Spanish lawyers, in Spanish contractual law. He must be well in the know with Atletico Madrid's inner sanctum.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .[/p][/quote]Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.[/p][/quote]£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.[/p][/quote]Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?[/p][/quote]no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.[/p][/quote]I don't think anyone ridiculed you saying it, I think you will find that you stated that this was a `saints only contract`. you said that Newcastle didn't do this yet when asked to back this up and prove your point you called us/me lazy for not `picking up the phone`. not for me to prove you wrong is it? you made the claim so back it up! you claim to know a lot about everything and have friends `in the know` yet have never backed up any of your claims. the thing you seem to forget is that no one cares who you are or who you think you are. you don't have to agree with the crowd but if you make grand claims you at least need to back them up, ad there are many ways of doing that.[/p][/quote]He's now claiming to know the exact details of a contract, drawn up by Spanish lawyers, in Spanish contractual law. He must be well in the know with Atletico Madrid's inner sanctum. angus mc coatup
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11:01pm Wed 10 Jul 13

business-guru says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.
£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.
Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?
no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.
So what you are suggesting is a problem for all PL clubs then...

...why just Saints?
no because if Villa signed for pretty much any other Prem club and he was approached by a company to appear for them in his own free time for whatever endorsements/appeara
nces etc etc he would be free to do so, as he would in Spain. Not so at saints. The difference in spain is that the % of a players income from activities in their none-football-club-c
ontracted time is so much more than in the UK generally. But put yourself in these players shoes.... if you are a big cheese in the football world, your own time is your own time and endorsements and appearances are your own business, not that of your employer with obvious professional-duty-of
-care exceptions.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .[/p][/quote]Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.[/p][/quote]£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.[/p][/quote]Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?[/p][/quote]no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.[/p][/quote]So what you are suggesting is a problem for all PL clubs then... ...why just Saints?[/p][/quote]no because if Villa signed for pretty much any other Prem club and he was approached by a company to appear for them in his own free time for whatever endorsements/appeara nces etc etc he would be free to do so, as he would in Spain. Not so at saints. The difference in spain is that the % of a players income from activities in their none-football-club-c ontracted time is so much more than in the UK generally. But put yourself in these players shoes.... if you are a big cheese in the football world, your own time is your own time and endorsements and appearances are your own business, not that of your employer with obvious professional-duty-of -care exceptions. business-guru
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11:05pm Wed 10 Jul 13

business-guru says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.
£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.
Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?
no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.
I don't think anyone ridiculed you saying it, I think you will find that you stated that this was a `saints only contract`. you said that Newcastle didn't do this yet when asked to back this up and prove your point you called us/me lazy for not `picking up the phone`. not for me to prove you wrong is it? you made the claim so back it up! you claim to know a lot about everything and have friends `in the know` yet have never backed up any of your claims.
the thing you seem to forget is that no one cares who you are or who you think you are. you don't have to agree with the crowd but if you make grand claims you at least need to back them up, ad there are many ways of doing that.
He's now claiming to know the exact details of a contract, drawn up by Spanish lawyers, in Spanish contractual law. He must be well in the know with Atletico Madrid's inner sanctum.
I am claiming no such thing. You need to learn to read properly. Read again and see if you can get it right this time. And If you want to know the skeleton of Villa's contract then just look at the public domain stuff being reported in Spain. You dont need a special spanish computer !! LOL !!
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .[/p][/quote]Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.[/p][/quote]£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.[/p][/quote]Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?[/p][/quote]no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.[/p][/quote]I don't think anyone ridiculed you saying it, I think you will find that you stated that this was a `saints only contract`. you said that Newcastle didn't do this yet when asked to back this up and prove your point you called us/me lazy for not `picking up the phone`. not for me to prove you wrong is it? you made the claim so back it up! you claim to know a lot about everything and have friends `in the know` yet have never backed up any of your claims. the thing you seem to forget is that no one cares who you are or who you think you are. you don't have to agree with the crowd but if you make grand claims you at least need to back them up, ad there are many ways of doing that.[/p][/quote]He's now claiming to know the exact details of a contract, drawn up by Spanish lawyers, in Spanish contractual law. He must be well in the know with Atletico Madrid's inner sanctum.[/p][/quote]I am claiming no such thing. You need to learn to read properly. Read again and see if you can get it right this time. And If you want to know the skeleton of Villa's contract then just look at the public domain stuff being reported in Spain. You dont need a special spanish computer !! LOL !! business-guru
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11:09pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.
£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.
Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?
no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.
So what you are suggesting is a problem for all PL clubs then...

...why just Saints?
no because if Villa signed for pretty much any other Prem club and he was approached by a company to appear for them in his own free time for whatever endorsements/appeara

nces etc etc he would be free to do so, as he would in Spain. Not so at saints. The difference in spain is that the % of a players income from activities in their none-football-club-c

ontracted time is so much more than in the UK generally. But put yourself in these players shoes.... if you are a big cheese in the football world, your own time is your own time and endorsements and appearances are your own business, not that of your employer with obvious professional-duty-of

-care exceptions.
So why did no other PL club sign him up then?
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .[/p][/quote]Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.[/p][/quote]£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.[/p][/quote]Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?[/p][/quote]no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.[/p][/quote]So what you are suggesting is a problem for all PL clubs then... ...why just Saints?[/p][/quote]no because if Villa signed for pretty much any other Prem club and he was approached by a company to appear for them in his own free time for whatever endorsements/appeara nces etc etc he would be free to do so, as he would in Spain. Not so at saints. The difference in spain is that the % of a players income from activities in their none-football-club-c ontracted time is so much more than in the UK generally. But put yourself in these players shoes.... if you are a big cheese in the football world, your own time is your own time and endorsements and appearances are your own business, not that of your employer with obvious professional-duty-of -care exceptions.[/p][/quote]So why did no other PL club sign him up then? Baddesley Bill
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11:14pm Wed 10 Jul 13

business-guru says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.
£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.
Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?
no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.
So what you are suggesting is a problem for all PL clubs then...

...why just Saints?
no because if Villa signed for pretty much any other Prem club and he was approached by a company to appear for them in his own free time for whatever endorsements/appeara


nces etc etc he would be free to do so, as he would in Spain. Not so at saints. The difference in spain is that the % of a players income from activities in their none-football-club-c


ontracted time is so much more than in the UK generally. But put yourself in these players shoes.... if you are a big cheese in the football world, your own time is your own time and endorsements and appearances are your own business, not that of your employer with obvious professional-duty-of


-care exceptions.
So why did no other PL club sign him up then?
He wants to stay in Spain.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .[/p][/quote]Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.[/p][/quote]£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.[/p][/quote]Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?[/p][/quote]no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.[/p][/quote]So what you are suggesting is a problem for all PL clubs then... ...why just Saints?[/p][/quote]no because if Villa signed for pretty much any other Prem club and he was approached by a company to appear for them in his own free time for whatever endorsements/appeara nces etc etc he would be free to do so, as he would in Spain. Not so at saints. The difference in spain is that the % of a players income from activities in their none-football-club-c ontracted time is so much more than in the UK generally. But put yourself in these players shoes.... if you are a big cheese in the football world, your own time is your own time and endorsements and appearances are your own business, not that of your employer with obvious professional-duty-of -care exceptions.[/p][/quote]So why did no other PL club sign him up then?[/p][/quote]He wants to stay in Spain. business-guru
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11:20pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.
£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.
Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?
no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.
So what you are suggesting is a problem for all PL clubs then...

...why just Saints?
no because if Villa signed for pretty much any other Prem club and he was approached by a company to appear for them in his own free time for whatever endorsements/appeara



nces etc etc he would be free to do so, as he would in Spain. Not so at saints. The difference in spain is that the % of a players income from activities in their none-football-club-c



ontracted time is so much more than in the UK generally. But put yourself in these players shoes.... if you are a big cheese in the football world, your own time is your own time and endorsements and appearances are your own business, not that of your employer with obvious professional-duty-of



-care exceptions.
So why did no other PL club sign him up then?
He wants to stay in Spain.
Ok...but that sort of shoots your previous theory down in flames don't it?
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .[/p][/quote]Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.[/p][/quote]£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.[/p][/quote]Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?[/p][/quote]no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.[/p][/quote]So what you are suggesting is a problem for all PL clubs then... ...why just Saints?[/p][/quote]no because if Villa signed for pretty much any other Prem club and he was approached by a company to appear for them in his own free time for whatever endorsements/appeara nces etc etc he would be free to do so, as he would in Spain. Not so at saints. The difference in spain is that the % of a players income from activities in their none-football-club-c ontracted time is so much more than in the UK generally. But put yourself in these players shoes.... if you are a big cheese in the football world, your own time is your own time and endorsements and appearances are your own business, not that of your employer with obvious professional-duty-of -care exceptions.[/p][/quote]So why did no other PL club sign him up then?[/p][/quote]He wants to stay in Spain.[/p][/quote]Ok...but that sort of shoots your previous theory down in flames don't it? Baddesley Bill
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11:25pm Wed 10 Jul 13

angus mc coatup says...

business-guru wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.
£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.
Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?
no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.
I don't think anyone ridiculed you saying it, I think you will find that you stated that this was a `saints only contract`. you said that Newcastle didn't do this yet when asked to back this up and prove your point you called us/me lazy for not `picking up the phone`. not for me to prove you wrong is it? you made the claim so back it up! you claim to know a lot about everything and have friends `in the know` yet have never backed up any of your claims.
the thing you seem to forget is that no one cares who you are or who you think you are. you don't have to agree with the crowd but if you make grand claims you at least need to back them up, ad there are many ways of doing that.
He's now claiming to know the exact details of a contract, drawn up by Spanish lawyers, in Spanish contractual law. He must be well in the know with Atletico Madrid's inner sanctum.
I am claiming no such thing. You need to learn to read properly. Read again and see if you can get it right this time. And If you want to know the skeleton of Villa's contract then just look at the public domain stuff being reported in Spain. You dont need a special spanish computer !! LOL !!
To be honest mush, I really couldn't a flying fcuk about the pros and cons of any contracts. It's down to the management of SFC how they run the club, and as far as I can see we're moving in the right direction.

Luckily, you aren't dealing with our transfer strategy. So we could get even bigger better players on board during this window.

We must be doing something right because that's the best part of £ 20 mill spent with probably more to come.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .[/p][/quote]Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.[/p][/quote]£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.[/p][/quote]Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?[/p][/quote]no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.[/p][/quote]I don't think anyone ridiculed you saying it, I think you will find that you stated that this was a `saints only contract`. you said that Newcastle didn't do this yet when asked to back this up and prove your point you called us/me lazy for not `picking up the phone`. not for me to prove you wrong is it? you made the claim so back it up! you claim to know a lot about everything and have friends `in the know` yet have never backed up any of your claims. the thing you seem to forget is that no one cares who you are or who you think you are. you don't have to agree with the crowd but if you make grand claims you at least need to back them up, ad there are many ways of doing that.[/p][/quote]He's now claiming to know the exact details of a contract, drawn up by Spanish lawyers, in Spanish contractual law. He must be well in the know with Atletico Madrid's inner sanctum.[/p][/quote]I am claiming no such thing. You need to learn to read properly. Read again and see if you can get it right this time. And If you want to know the skeleton of Villa's contract then just look at the public domain stuff being reported in Spain. You dont need a special spanish computer !! LOL !![/p][/quote]To be honest mush, I really couldn't a flying fcuk about the pros and cons of any contracts. It's down to the management of SFC how they run the club, and as far as I can see we're moving in the right direction. Luckily, you aren't dealing with our transfer strategy. So we could get even bigger better players on board during this window. We must be doing something right because that's the best part of £ 20 mill spent with probably more to come. angus mc coatup
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11:26pm Wed 10 Jul 13

st1halo says...

business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote:
I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL.
Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club.
These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.
£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.
Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?
no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.
Guru - you make much of this contractual anomoly that "you say" happens at Southampton FC.
Firstly, the ridicule comes from the suggestion that a professional footballer would turn down the opportunity to play in the best league in the world and be very well paid because he would have to ask permission to open a social engagement. Personally, I would bet my house that this is not the case.
Anyway, **** baffles brains as they say and I would like to pull you on this IPR business that you keep mentioning. You will know that I like facts and have done some digging as I don't understand why a 'playing' footballer would need to protect or why he would even have IPR's in a contract. He doesn't create or innovate invent or design, He couldn't or shouldn't be able to write a book whilst under contract and tv, film and photographic rights are the property of the club or tv company. Niether can I find any information on any player that has those rghts. If you know otherwise, please furnish some factual information but either way, as it is such a rarity, I cannot see it as an obstacle to a succesful signing.


STID
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .[/p][/quote]Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.[/p][/quote]£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.[/p][/quote]Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?[/p][/quote]no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.[/p][/quote]Guru - you make much of this contractual anomoly that "you say" happens at Southampton FC. Firstly, the ridicule comes from the suggestion that a professional footballer would turn down the opportunity to play in the best league in the world and be very well paid because he would have to ask permission to open a social engagement. Personally, I would bet my house that this is not the case. Anyway, **** baffles brains as they say and I would like to pull you on this IPR business that you keep mentioning. You will know that I like facts and have done some digging as I don't understand why a 'playing' footballer would need to protect or why he would even have IPR's in a contract. He doesn't create or innovate invent or design, He couldn't or shouldn't be able to write a book whilst under contract and tv, film and photographic rights are the property of the club or tv company. Niether can I find any information on any player that has those rghts. If you know otherwise, please furnish some factual information but either way, as it is such a rarity, I cannot see it as an obstacle to a succesful signing. STID st1halo
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11:47pm Wed 10 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

I'm guessing our resident "guru" wouldn't last very long on the Apprentice.

If average guys supporting a Club can pull his theories apart, Alan Sugar would have him for breakfast!!!

Back to business school for you Mr business guru :O)
I'm guessing our resident "guru" wouldn't last very long on the Apprentice. If average guys supporting a Club can pull his theories apart, Alan Sugar would have him for breakfast!!! Back to business school for you Mr business guru :O) Baddesley Bill
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12:00am Thu 11 Jul 13

angus mc coatup says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I'm guessing our resident "guru" wouldn't last very long on the Apprentice.

If average guys supporting a Club can pull his theories apart, Alan Sugar would have him for breakfast!!!

Back to business school for you Mr business guru :O)
Well according to the " guru " If we continue with the way we deal with potential transfers, the restrictions on their human rights within the terms of the contract means we will not get anybody in. So players like Forren, Lovren and Wanyama will simply refuse to come here.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I'm guessing our resident "guru" wouldn't last very long on the Apprentice. If average guys supporting a Club can pull his theories apart, Alan Sugar would have him for breakfast!!! Back to business school for you Mr business guru :O)[/p][/quote]Well according to the " guru " If we continue with the way we deal with potential transfers, the restrictions on their human rights within the terms of the contract means we will not get anybody in. So players like Forren, Lovren and Wanyama will simply refuse to come here. angus mc coatup
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12:35am Thu 11 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
I'm guessing our resident "guru" wouldn't last very long on the Apprentice.

If average guys supporting a Club can pull his theories apart, Alan Sugar would have him for breakfast!!!

Back to business school for you Mr business guru :O)
Well according to the " guru " If we continue with the way we deal with potential transfers, the restrictions on their human rights within the terms of the contract means we will not get anybody in. So players like Forren, Lovren and Wanyama will simply refuse to come here.
no one will ever sign or us with these draconian measures, well except for the 2 big names that have/will. I`m surprised that none of our current squad have gone to the European court of human rights to claim that its their right to open a village fete if they want to.
come on guru I have asked many times and you have yet to answer so I will do again, what `proof` do you have that this contractual clause is specific to just Southampton fc? you have used Newcastle as an example of a team that hasn't got this clause and again what `proof` do you have that they do or do not? if you cant provide the proof don't worry I couldn't think any less of your claims than I do know anyway.
we have all seen poster like you come and go over the years, pop up with a wild claim regarding sfc and how poorly it is being run yet when challenged to provide proof of their claim they cant and so disappear.
someone else said the other day that there is a touch of the boooooorers about you and that's getting more and more true everyday.
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I'm guessing our resident "guru" wouldn't last very long on the Apprentice. If average guys supporting a Club can pull his theories apart, Alan Sugar would have him for breakfast!!! Back to business school for you Mr business guru :O)[/p][/quote]Well according to the " guru " If we continue with the way we deal with potential transfers, the restrictions on their human rights within the terms of the contract means we will not get anybody in. So players like Forren, Lovren and Wanyama will simply refuse to come here.[/p][/quote]no one will ever sign or us with these draconian measures, well except for the 2 big names that have/will. I`m surprised that none of our current squad have gone to the European court of human rights to claim that its their right to open a village fete if they want to. come on guru I have asked many times and you have yet to answer so I will do again, what `proof` do you have that this contractual clause is specific to just Southampton fc? you have used Newcastle as an example of a team that hasn't got this clause and again what `proof` do you have that they do or do not? if you cant provide the proof don't worry I couldn't think any less of your claims than I do know anyway. we have all seen poster like you come and go over the years, pop up with a wild claim regarding sfc and how poorly it is being run yet when challenged to provide proof of their claim they cant and so disappear. someone else said the other day that there is a touch of the boooooorers about you and that's getting more and more true everyday. el caballo santos101
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12:51am Thu 11 Jul 13

st1halo says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
I'm guessing our resident "guru" wouldn't last very long on the Apprentice.

If average guys supporting a Club can pull his theories apart, Alan Sugar would have him for breakfast!!!

Back to business school for you Mr business guru :O)
Well according to the " guru " If we continue with the way we deal with potential transfers, the restrictions on their human rights within the terms of the contract means we will not get anybody in. So players like Forren, Lovren and Wanyama will simply refuse to come here.
Guru has also distorted the facts about the David Villa transfer somewhat.
The transfer is Eur 5.1m over 3 years but with Barcelona holding 50% of any sell on value in the future. His wages for the forthcoming season under contract were to be Eur11m which in sterling equates to £182k per wk!!! (So not relatively low at all!!) Barca have taken a hit on the fee to save the wages, Atletico will be taking the hit on wages but saving the fee. This was one of the sticking points with the transfer to Spurs and in the end Barca have tried to do the right thing by Villa as compensation for his service to the club.

Not that it makes any difference to us but I do like accuracy!!


STID
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I'm guessing our resident "guru" wouldn't last very long on the Apprentice. If average guys supporting a Club can pull his theories apart, Alan Sugar would have him for breakfast!!! Back to business school for you Mr business guru :O)[/p][/quote]Well according to the " guru " If we continue with the way we deal with potential transfers, the restrictions on their human rights within the terms of the contract means we will not get anybody in. So players like Forren, Lovren and Wanyama will simply refuse to come here.[/p][/quote]Guru has also distorted the facts about the David Villa transfer somewhat. The transfer is Eur 5.1m over 3 years but with Barcelona holding 50% of any sell on value in the future. His wages for the forthcoming season under contract were to be Eur11m which in sterling equates to £182k per wk!!! (So not relatively low at all!!) Barca have taken a hit on the fee to save the wages, Atletico will be taking the hit on wages but saving the fee. This was one of the sticking points with the transfer to Spurs and in the end Barca have tried to do the right thing by Villa as compensation for his service to the club. Not that it makes any difference to us but I do like accuracy!! STID st1halo
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5:53am Thu 11 Jul 13

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.
£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.
Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?
no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.
So what you are suggesting is a problem for all PL clubs then... ...why just Saints?
no because if Villa signed for pretty much any other Prem club and he was approached by a company to appear for them in his own free time for whatever endorsements/appeara nces etc etc he would be free to do so, as he would in Spain. Not so at saints. The difference in spain is that the % of a players income from activities in their none-football-club-c ontracted time is so much more than in the UK generally. But put yourself in these players shoes.... if you are a big cheese in the football world, your own time is your own time and endorsements and appearances are your own business, not that of your employer with obvious professional-duty-of -care exceptions.
What do you mean by obvious professional duty of care exceptions?
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .[/p][/quote]Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.[/p][/quote]£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.[/p][/quote]Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?[/p][/quote]no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.[/p][/quote]So what you are suggesting is a problem for all PL clubs then... ...why just Saints?[/p][/quote]no because if Villa signed for pretty much any other Prem club and he was approached by a company to appear for them in his own free time for whatever endorsements/appeara nces etc etc he would be free to do so, as he would in Spain. Not so at saints. The difference in spain is that the % of a players income from activities in their none-football-club-c ontracted time is so much more than in the UK generally. But put yourself in these players shoes.... if you are a big cheese in the football world, your own time is your own time and endorsements and appearances are your own business, not that of your employer with obvious professional-duty-of -care exceptions.[/p][/quote]What do you mean by obvious professional duty of care exceptions? Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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6:36am Thu 11 Jul 13

speedyuk says...

Redrobbo wrote:
He has just been spotted at Eastleigh Airport with a certain Michael Owen who is apparantly going to sign for us.
If Owen is wearing a Saints shirt next season I will cover mine in Marmite and eat it !!!
[quote][p][bold]Redrobbo[/bold] wrote: He has just been spotted at Eastleigh Airport with a certain Michael Owen who is apparantly going to sign for us.[/p][/quote]If Owen is wearing a Saints shirt next season I will cover mine in Marmite and eat it !!! speedyuk
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7:52am Thu 11 Jul 13

business-guru says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.
£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.
Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?
no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.
So what you are suggesting is a problem for all PL clubs then... ...why just Saints?
no because if Villa signed for pretty much any other Prem club and he was approached by a company to appear for them in his own free time for whatever endorsements/appeara nces etc etc he would be free to do so, as he would in Spain. Not so at saints. The difference in spain is that the % of a players income from activities in their none-football-club-c ontracted time is so much more than in the UK generally. But put yourself in these players shoes.... if you are a big cheese in the football world, your own time is your own time and endorsements and appearances are your own business, not that of your employer with obvious professional-duty-of -care exceptions.
What do you mean by obvious professional duty of care exceptions?
players in their contract have conditions regarding diet, fitness and general well being. They are also party to restrictions that prohibit sponsorship and endorsement of items/companies that conflict with their professional ethics. These are entirely reasonable and not the same as preventing a player from attending a fund-raising event for a sportsclub in his own time.
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .[/p][/quote]Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.[/p][/quote]£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.[/p][/quote]Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?[/p][/quote]no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.[/p][/quote]So what you are suggesting is a problem for all PL clubs then... ...why just Saints?[/p][/quote]no because if Villa signed for pretty much any other Prem club and he was approached by a company to appear for them in his own free time for whatever endorsements/appeara nces etc etc he would be free to do so, as he would in Spain. Not so at saints. The difference in spain is that the % of a players income from activities in their none-football-club-c ontracted time is so much more than in the UK generally. But put yourself in these players shoes.... if you are a big cheese in the football world, your own time is your own time and endorsements and appearances are your own business, not that of your employer with obvious professional-duty-of -care exceptions.[/p][/quote]What do you mean by obvious professional duty of care exceptions?[/p][/quote]players in their contract have conditions regarding diet, fitness and general well being. They are also party to restrictions that prohibit sponsorship and endorsement of items/companies that conflict with their professional ethics. These are entirely reasonable and not the same as preventing a player from attending a fund-raising event for a sportsclub in his own time. business-guru
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8:45am Thu 11 Jul 13

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

business-guru wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.
£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.
Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?
no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.
So what you are suggesting is a problem for all PL clubs then... ...why just Saints?
no because if Villa signed for pretty much any other Prem club and he was approached by a company to appear for them in his own free time for whatever endorsements/appeara nces etc etc he would be free to do so, as he would in Spain. Not so at saints. The difference in spain is that the % of a players income from activities in their none-football-club-c ontracted time is so much more than in the UK generally. But put yourself in these players shoes.... if you are a big cheese in the football world, your own time is your own time and endorsements and appearances are your own business, not that of your employer with obvious professional-duty-of -care exceptions.
What do you mean by obvious professional duty of care exceptions?
players in their contract have conditions regarding diet, fitness and general well being. They are also party to restrictions that prohibit sponsorship and endorsement of items/companies that conflict with their professional ethics. These are entirely reasonable and not the same as preventing a player from attending a fund-raising event for a sportsclub in his own time.
Ok. Not what I understand as professional duty of care but thank you for explaining what you meant by it
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .[/p][/quote]Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.[/p][/quote]£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.[/p][/quote]Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?[/p][/quote]no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.[/p][/quote]So what you are suggesting is a problem for all PL clubs then... ...why just Saints?[/p][/quote]no because if Villa signed for pretty much any other Prem club and he was approached by a company to appear for them in his own free time for whatever endorsements/appeara nces etc etc he would be free to do so, as he would in Spain. Not so at saints. The difference in spain is that the % of a players income from activities in their none-football-club-c ontracted time is so much more than in the UK generally. But put yourself in these players shoes.... if you are a big cheese in the football world, your own time is your own time and endorsements and appearances are your own business, not that of your employer with obvious professional-duty-of -care exceptions.[/p][/quote]What do you mean by obvious professional duty of care exceptions?[/p][/quote]players in their contract have conditions regarding diet, fitness and general well being. They are also party to restrictions that prohibit sponsorship and endorsement of items/companies that conflict with their professional ethics. These are entirely reasonable and not the same as preventing a player from attending a fund-raising event for a sportsclub in his own time.[/p][/quote]Ok. Not what I understand as professional duty of care but thank you for explaining what you meant by it Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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8:51am Thu 11 Jul 13

W Wallace says...

business-guru wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
business-guru wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
slugger wrote:
business-guru wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
slugger wrote:
W Wallace wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.
Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .
Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.
he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.
We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .
I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .
Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.
£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.
Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?
no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.
So what you are suggesting is a problem for all PL clubs then... ...why just Saints?
no because if Villa signed for pretty much any other Prem club and he was approached by a company to appear for them in his own free time for whatever endorsements/appeara nces etc etc he would be free to do so, as he would in Spain. Not so at saints. The difference in spain is that the % of a players income from activities in their none-football-club-c ontracted time is so much more than in the UK generally. But put yourself in these players shoes.... if you are a big cheese in the football world, your own time is your own time and endorsements and appearances are your own business, not that of your employer with obvious professional-duty-of -care exceptions.
What do you mean by obvious professional duty of care exceptions?
players in their contract have conditions regarding diet, fitness and general well being. They are also party to restrictions that prohibit sponsorship and endorsement of items/companies that conflict with their professional ethics. These are entirely reasonable and not the same as preventing a player from attending a fund-raising event for a sportsclub in his own time.
I like the small Scottish club comment. Amuses me how clubs in the EPL believe they are a bigger and better club because they are funded by BSkyB.
Yes Revenue is greater, yes salaries are greater, yes it is a better quality of football. But lets be honest the likes of Southampton can only afford to spend this cash because they have mega rich sugar daddy in BSkyB lets hope they have learned from Leeds who are by far a much bigger than Southampton Football club. Oh and of Course Celtic are going to accept £12million pounds, hell who wouldn't want to make that sort of profit.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]W Wallace[/bold] wrote: I personally have to question why Wanyama would choose Southampton. I understand money maybe a major factor, after all the mega rich premier league means salaries are far higher than the SPL. Southampton are unlikely to to reach the CL, would struggle massively to make Europe and I believe have very little chance of winning a cup...... So my conclusion Money money money... and if he impresses then a move to a bigger English top flight club. These can be the only reasons for any possible move.[/p][/quote]Wrong , These cannot be the ONLY reasons .[/p][/quote]Just because you say it's wrong it does not mean it is shorty.Money is the answer. No big clubs came in for him,That should tell you we are paying silly money on a gamble.Keep doing that and we will be where we were a few years ago.[/p][/quote]he ain't worth £12M and he is only in it for the money, thats obvious after the fiasco a week or so ago...this would be a stupid signing and I am hoping we avoid this guy and spend wisely elsewhere. I know some people just see the huge sum and equate this with "just how far we have come" , but for me its just a sign of desperation. Please please please, lets not panic and waste money on money-grabbers with no real experience in a decent European league. After us paying £12M for the part timer Gaston, it would be a statement to all clubs that we are a soft touch and easy to part with cash. Cardiff pulled out and we should do the same. Let them have him for £10M then ( no one else would pay it ) and if cardiff then realise its stupid money then maybe he could find a decent club for a reasonable price.[/p][/quote]We have management in place who's job it is to make such decisions ...... we seem do be doing ok so far so excuse me if I dismiss your input as unimportant drivel ..... no offence intended but please feel free to take it .[/p][/quote]I will just laugh when I put pencil to paper and work out exactly how much of your season ticket money you paid will go straight into Rob Moore's back pocket... Only stupid people celebrate when they are being stealthily robbed.... no offence intended but please feel free to take it.... LOL....[/p][/quote]Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ..... Ta very much .[/p][/quote]Athletico madrid have signed David Villa for less than £2M , no slimey agents pocketing £500,000 , no barcelona telling Athletico "he would be a great signing for them"... Spains all time top goal scorer with another 3 years of quality left in him .... Its a shame players like him would miss tapas and the siesta too much. I would love to see a fraction of that money spent on him.[/p][/quote]£ 4 mill was the fee and he is 31years old.[/p][/quote]Still a bargain imo ...... what's the wages though ?[/p][/quote]no its £1.8M , if he is still there after 18 months then part 2 of a 3 part contract is engaged, if he stays for 3 years then the total paid will be £4.4M. He is on lowish wages ( compared to the Prem ) but in spain their bonuses and collateral earning form 70% of their total football income and most of that is tied into their contract. This is why Messi is in the do-do , he tried to account for that part of his earnings seperately ( which in Spain is illegal ). The trouble Saints are having attracting quality from Spain may be do to with personal terms. As I have said before ( which people here choose to ridicule ) the demands and contractual restrictions placed on players and potential restrictions on theie IPRs could stop many from wanting to come to Saints.[/p][/quote]So what you are suggesting is a problem for all PL clubs then... ...why just Saints?[/p][/quote]no because if Villa signed for pretty much any other Prem club and he was approached by a company to appear for them in his own free time for whatever endorsements/appeara nces etc etc he would be free to do so, as he would in Spain. Not so at saints. The difference in spain is that the % of a players income from activities in their none-football-club-c ontracted time is so much more than in the UK generally. But put yourself in these players shoes.... if you are a big cheese in the football world, your own time is your own time and endorsements and appearances are your own business, not that of your employer with obvious professional-duty-of -care exceptions.[/p][/quote]What do you mean by obvious professional duty of care exceptions?[/p][/quote]players in their contract have conditions regarding diet, fitness and general well being. They are also party to restrictions that prohibit sponsorship and endorsement of items/companies that conflict with their professional ethics. These are entirely reasonable and not the same as preventing a player from attending a fund-raising event for a sportsclub in his own time.[/p][/quote]I like the small Scottish club comment. Amuses me how clubs in the EPL believe they are a bigger and better club because they are funded by BSkyB. Yes Revenue is greater, yes salaries are greater, yes it is a better quality of football. But lets be honest the likes of Southampton can only afford to spend this cash because they have mega rich sugar daddy in BSkyB lets hope they have learned from Leeds who are by far a much bigger than Southampton Football club. Oh and of Course Celtic are going to accept £12million pounds, hell who wouldn't want to make that sort of profit. W Wallace
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9:15am Thu 11 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool
You can't argue with him because he runs rings round you,I find this board funny,
Didn't say I would ignore you though! Unless you are Ach I in disguise? Anyway, he claims I said things on other threads but he talks total rubbish. I did say I had only seen one YouTube vid of wanyama (meaning not much to base an opinion on) and in that vid Barca gave him a lot of space and he didn't do anything particularly great with it. I also said I thought Banega was the better option and I stand by that (if indeed they are alternatives and we don't end up buying both!). I then post (second in this thread) saying come on Vic you know you want to and knOb the Jock then posts his drivel about many faces etc. he is just a fool and not worth the effort. Someone told me before that if I argued with him he would then line up his mates (probably fake accounts) to say he had bested me. He really is just a Wum with a capital W and not worth bothering about. That was my last word about Ach I the kn0b
Actually you said:

"Frankly he didn't look that special"

"He didn't do anything particularly great with the ball"

"He is just am (sic) mercenary"

"He thinks he is better than he is"

Your memory has more holes than a swiss cheese.

I apologise. You are not two faced.

You have a Rubic's Cube for a face.......
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool[/p][/quote]You can't argue with him because he runs rings round you,I find this board funny,[/p][/quote]Didn't say I would ignore you though! Unless you are Ach I in disguise? Anyway, he claims I said things on other threads but he talks total rubbish. I did say I had only seen one YouTube vid of wanyama (meaning not much to base an opinion on) and in that vid Barca gave him a lot of space and he didn't do anything particularly great with it. I also said I thought Banega was the better option and I stand by that (if indeed they are alternatives and we don't end up buying both!). I then post (second in this thread) saying come on Vic you know you want to and knOb the Jock then posts his drivel about many faces etc. he is just a fool and not worth the effort. Someone told me before that if I argued with him he would then line up his mates (probably fake accounts) to say he had bested me. He really is just a Wum with a capital W and not worth bothering about. That was my last word about Ach I the kn0b[/p][/quote]Actually you said: "Frankly he didn't look that special" "He didn't do anything particularly great with the ball" "He is just am (sic) mercenary" "He thinks he is better than he is" Your memory has more holes than a swiss cheese. I apologise. You are not two faced. You have a Rubic's Cube for a face....... Ach I The Noo
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9:24am Thu 11 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

dirtyweasel wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool
You can't argue with him because he runs rings round you,I find this board funny,
"Truth" ?

"They can't handle the truth"......
[quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: Ach I the noo is a complete kn0b jock(ey). See what I did there? In fact he is such a total t0ss pot I am going to ignore him from now on. Can't argue with a fool[/p][/quote]You can't argue with him because he runs rings round you,I find this board funny,[/p][/quote]"Truth" ? "They can't handle the truth"...... Ach I The Noo
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9:29am Thu 11 Jul 13

Clever Dick says...

Actually I think you will find BSkyB are paying for a product. If they tried to reduce the amount in future they would be outbid by other broadcasters who are also desperate to have good viewing figures. So there is no element of sugar daddy involvement. The Saints, like every other club in the EPL, receive their money as a result of having planned to get into that league and actually achieving it. Of course Celtic will be happy to recieve whatever they can get for a player. It is probably their major source of income nowadays and it is certainly true that they wouldn't get anywhere near that amount if it wern't for SKY's involvement with the EPL.
Actually I think you will find BSkyB are paying for a product. If they tried to reduce the amount in future they would be outbid by other broadcasters who are also desperate to have good viewing figures. So there is no element of sugar daddy involvement. The Saints, like every other club in the EPL, receive their money as a result of having planned to get into that league and actually achieving it. Of course Celtic will be happy to recieve whatever they can get for a player. It is probably their major source of income nowadays and it is certainly true that they wouldn't get anywhere near that amount if it wern't for SKY's involvement with the EPL. Clever Dick
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9:56am Thu 11 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Actually I think you will find BSkyB are paying for a product. If they tried to reduce the amount in future they would be outbid by other broadcasters who are also desperate to have good viewing figures. So there is no element of sugar daddy involvement. The Saints, like every other club in the EPL, receive their money as a result of having planned to get into that league and actually achieving it. Of course Celtic will be happy to recieve whatever they can get for a player. It is probably their major source of income nowadays and it is certainly true that they wouldn't get anywhere near that amount if it wern't for SKY's involvement with the EPL.
We'll take your £12 million and use it to try to win the SPL again.
Shame we couldn't beat Greuther Furth (Bundeliga 2) without our star player, but at least we can still beat everyone in Scotland. (Except maybe the mighty Rangers).
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Actually I think you will find BSkyB are paying for a product. If they tried to reduce the amount in future they would be outbid by other broadcasters who are also desperate to have good viewing figures. So there is no element of sugar daddy involvement. The Saints, like every other club in the EPL, receive their money as a result of having planned to get into that league and actually achieving it. Of course Celtic will be happy to recieve whatever they can get for a player. It is probably their major source of income nowadays and it is certainly true that they wouldn't get anywhere near that amount if it wern't for SKY's involvement with the EPL.[/p][/quote]We'll take your £12 million and use it to try to win the SPL again. Shame we couldn't beat Greuther Furth (Bundeliga 2) without our star player, but at least we can still beat everyone in Scotland. (Except maybe the mighty Rangers). Ach I The Noo
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10:03am Thu 11 Jul 13

W Wallace says...

@ not so Clever Dick.

Please tell me who would outbid them? If this was the case surely the said organisation would have done it already. I would suggest BSkyB's 20 years at the helm proves otherwise. Setanta & ESPN have both tried to get involved the latter I believe have just sold their rights to BT and Setanta well what happened to them.
@ not so Clever Dick. Please tell me who would outbid them? If this was the case surely the said organisation would have done it already. I would suggest BSkyB's 20 years at the helm proves otherwise. Setanta & ESPN have both tried to get involved the latter I believe have just sold their rights to BT and Setanta well what happened to them. W Wallace
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10:38am Thu 11 Jul 13

Clever Dick says...

Setanta was a small organisation basically given a small share to force some kind of competition in that market. They were actually a poorly organised company which is why they failed. The early years of SKY coverage was pretty much a monopoly created by SKY because they had the foresight to see the huge potential ahead of everybody else. I'm not sure of my facts here but I don't think ESPN sold their rights to BT. They lost out in the bidding process to them and I don't think they are such a small company. Virgin would also be a viable competitor but we wil only really find out during the next round of bidding which is a few years away. Regardless of that do you really believe that a hard nosed company like SKY is just handing out money it doesn't need to. I don't think so.
Setanta was a small organisation basically given a small share to force some kind of competition in that market. They were actually a poorly organised company which is why they failed. The early years of SKY coverage was pretty much a monopoly created by SKY because they had the foresight to see the huge potential ahead of everybody else. I'm not sure of my facts here but I don't think ESPN sold their rights to BT. They lost out in the bidding process to them and I don't think they are such a small company. Virgin would also be a viable competitor but we wil only really find out during the next round of bidding which is a few years away. Regardless of that do you really believe that a hard nosed company like SKY is just handing out money it doesn't need to. I don't think so. Clever Dick
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11:02am Thu 11 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Setanta was a small organisation basically given a small share to force some kind of competition in that market. They were actually a poorly organised company which is why they failed. The early years of SKY coverage was pretty much a monopoly created by SKY because they had the foresight to see the huge potential ahead of everybody else. I'm not sure of my facts here but I don't think ESPN sold their rights to BT. They lost out in the bidding process to them and I don't think they are such a small company. Virgin would also be a viable competitor but we wil only really find out during the next round of bidding which is a few years away. Regardless of that do you really believe that a hard nosed company like SKY is just handing out money it doesn't need to. I don't think so.
sky are able to bid higher than other companies because they have a huge subscriber base, this was of course built up over years of being the sole provider of live prem football. bt outbid espn (which is a massive company) because bt were desperate to get a foot in the door. don't forget that your argument about sky being a `sugar daddy` falls down when you remember that its the public, through our subscriptions, who fund sky. the fact that sky pay so much for tv rights shows there is a huge interest in watching prem football. if there was the same interest in the spl then sky would pay more for that, and don't forget spl clubs get money from sky as well.
it is true that setanta and espn couldn't compete with sky but a lot of fans who pay for football through sky couldn't afford or didn't want to pay the extra fees to get the other services just to watch a few extra games.
notice that I have not run down the spl here, I just have no interest in it because I am English, I pay the same attention to the spl as I do to the French, dutch and Italian leagues.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Setanta was a small organisation basically given a small share to force some kind of competition in that market. They were actually a poorly organised company which is why they failed. The early years of SKY coverage was pretty much a monopoly created by SKY because they had the foresight to see the huge potential ahead of everybody else. I'm not sure of my facts here but I don't think ESPN sold their rights to BT. They lost out in the bidding process to them and I don't think they are such a small company. Virgin would also be a viable competitor but we wil only really find out during the next round of bidding which is a few years away. Regardless of that do you really believe that a hard nosed company like SKY is just handing out money it doesn't need to. I don't think so.[/p][/quote]sky are able to bid higher than other companies because they have a huge subscriber base, this was of course built up over years of being the sole provider of live prem football. bt outbid espn (which is a massive company) because bt were desperate to get a foot in the door. don't forget that your argument about sky being a `sugar daddy` falls down when you remember that its the public, through our subscriptions, who fund sky. the fact that sky pay so much for tv rights shows there is a huge interest in watching prem football. if there was the same interest in the spl then sky would pay more for that, and don't forget spl clubs get money from sky as well. it is true that setanta and espn couldn't compete with sky but a lot of fans who pay for football through sky couldn't afford or didn't want to pay the extra fees to get the other services just to watch a few extra games. notice that I have not run down the spl here, I just have no interest in it because I am English, I pay the same attention to the spl as I do to the French, dutch and Italian leagues. el caballo santos101
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11:18am Thu 11 Jul 13

st1halo says...

Not sure where 'sugar daddy' comes into the whole debate!!

The EPL was orignally set up with the intention of forming a product to be sold around the world and that the participants of the league would reap the benefits.

We don't get Sky money, BT money or ESPN money, we get our rightful share of Premier League money. No sugar daddy money here.

STID
Not sure where 'sugar daddy' comes into the whole debate!! The EPL was orignally set up with the intention of forming a product to be sold around the world and that the participants of the league would reap the benefits. We don't get Sky money, BT money or ESPN money, we get our rightful share of Premier League money. No sugar daddy money here. STID st1halo
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12:00pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

st1halo wrote:
Not sure where 'sugar daddy' comes into the whole debate!!

The EPL was orignally set up with the intention of forming a product to be sold around the world and that the participants of the league would reap the benefits.

We don't get Sky money, BT money or ESPN money, we get our rightful share of Premier League money. No sugar daddy money here.

STID
Well I bet if there were 1 or 2 teams in the SPL, we'd get televised and get some money too!
Unfortunately, we haven't seen a good team in the SPL, but I'm sure it will happen at some point. I hear you guys released several players who weren't good enough.......
Maybe we could sign them up........
They'd be mega stars up here.
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: Not sure where 'sugar daddy' comes into the whole debate!! The EPL was orignally set up with the intention of forming a product to be sold around the world and that the participants of the league would reap the benefits. We don't get Sky money, BT money or ESPN money, we get our rightful share of Premier League money. No sugar daddy money here. STID[/p][/quote]Well I bet if there were 1 or 2 teams in the SPL, we'd get televised and get some money too! Unfortunately, we haven't seen a good team in the SPL, but I'm sure it will happen at some point. I hear you guys released several players who weren't good enough....... Maybe we could sign them up........ They'd be mega stars up here. Ach I The Noo
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1:27pm Thu 11 Jul 13

st1halo says...

Ach I The Noo wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Not sure where 'sugar daddy' comes into the whole debate!!

The EPL was orignally set up with the intention of forming a product to be sold around the world and that the participants of the league would reap the benefits.

We don't get Sky money, BT money or ESPN money, we get our rightful share of Premier League money. No sugar daddy money here.

STID
Well I bet if there were 1 or 2 teams in the SPL, we'd get televised and get some money too!
Unfortunately, we haven't seen a good team in the SPL, but I'm sure it will happen at some point. I hear you guys released several players who weren't good enough.......
Maybe we could sign them up........
They'd be mega stars up here.
I was talking to a friend the other day who is a Liverpool fan. He sked 'How do you think Saints will do this season then?

I told him Saints were going to win the Premier League title, the FACup, the Carling Cup and that because we were such a good team, Celtic would hand over the SPL title to us in recognition of our superiority and next years World Cup would be cancelled as no team felt deserving of it so they will send us that as well.

Lampooning oneself is a truly British quality!

STID
[quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: Not sure where 'sugar daddy' comes into the whole debate!! The EPL was orignally set up with the intention of forming a product to be sold around the world and that the participants of the league would reap the benefits. We don't get Sky money, BT money or ESPN money, we get our rightful share of Premier League money. No sugar daddy money here. STID[/p][/quote]Well I bet if there were 1 or 2 teams in the SPL, we'd get televised and get some money too! Unfortunately, we haven't seen a good team in the SPL, but I'm sure it will happen at some point. I hear you guys released several players who weren't good enough....... Maybe we could sign them up........ They'd be mega stars up here.[/p][/quote]I was talking to a friend the other day who is a Liverpool fan. He sked 'How do you think Saints will do this season then? I told him Saints were going to win the Premier League title, the FACup, the Carling Cup and that because we were such a good team, Celtic would hand over the SPL title to us in recognition of our superiority and next years World Cup would be cancelled as no team felt deserving of it so they will send us that as well. Lampooning oneself is a truly British quality! STID st1halo
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1:40pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Setanta was a small organisation basically given a small share to force some kind of competition in that market. They were actually a poorly organised company which is why they failed. The early years of SKY coverage was pretty much a monopoly created by SKY because they had the foresight to see the huge potential ahead of everybody else. I'm not sure of my facts here but I don't think ESPN sold their rights to BT. They lost out in the bidding process to them and I don't think they are such a small company. Virgin would also be a viable competitor but we wil only really find out during the next round of bidding which is a few years away. Regardless of that do you really believe that a hard nosed company like SKY is just handing out money it doesn't need to. I don't think so.
Dick Head's menu for today:

Breakfast - Eggs

Lunch - Chicken Soup

Dinner - Chicken.

As in that old song. Keep on Running !

Cluck Cluck Cluck......
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Setanta was a small organisation basically given a small share to force some kind of competition in that market. They were actually a poorly organised company which is why they failed. The early years of SKY coverage was pretty much a monopoly created by SKY because they had the foresight to see the huge potential ahead of everybody else. I'm not sure of my facts here but I don't think ESPN sold their rights to BT. They lost out in the bidding process to them and I don't think they are such a small company. Virgin would also be a viable competitor but we wil only really find out during the next round of bidding which is a few years away. Regardless of that do you really believe that a hard nosed company like SKY is just handing out money it doesn't need to. I don't think so.[/p][/quote]Dick Head's menu for today: Breakfast - Eggs Lunch - Chicken Soup Dinner - Chicken. As in that old song. Keep on Running ! Cluck Cluck Cluck...... Ach I The Noo
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10:35am Mon 22 Jul 13

jls217 says...

I foresee Wannayamoney will not sign for Saints this season.
I foresee Wannayamoney will not sign for Saints this season. jls217
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