Chelsea inflict New Year's Day defeat on Saints

Daily Echo: Adam Lallana fires in a first half shot for Saints Adam Lallana fires in a first half shot for Saints

Saints slipped to another home defeat as they were beaten 3-0 by Chelsea on a wet and windy New Year's Day at St Mary's.

Again they had plenty of the game but fell to a loss which means they have won just one in their last nine league matches, and picked up just one point from their last four games at St Mary's.

Chelsea's strikers failed to score a single league goal away from home last year, but Fernando Torres ensured that hoodoo would not extend into 2014.

The west Londoners have not been firing on all cylinders since Jose Mourinho returned to Stamford Bridge, yet the ruthless edge that epitomised his first spell continues to shine through.

The Blues rode their luck at times in miserable conditions on the south coast, but the hosts could have no arguments with the eventual 3-0 scoreline in this Premier League match.

There were few chances of note in the opening 45 minutes, with last-ditch blocks and wayward finishing keeping the score goalless.

Saints wasted decent chances during a penalty-box melee in the early minutes of the second half - missed opportunities they were made to rue as Chelsea wrestled control of the game.

Oscar, who had just been booked for diving, saw a deflected cross from the left come back off the post and unmarked Torres nodded home - the first away league goal by a Chelsea striker since the Spaniard netted on December 8, 2012, against Sunderland.

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It was a goal that capped a fine performance for the Spaniard and one added to by substitute Willian, firing low past Kelvin Davis after collecting a ball from Oscar in the 71st minute.

The Brazil international, introduced as 53rd minute substitute, added extra gloss to the scoreline late on, firing low past Davis to wrap up Chelsea's fourth win in five matches and condemn Saints to back-to-back home league defeats for the first time under Mauricio Pochettino.

Mourinho, who helped persuade Pochettino to take the St Mary's hot-seat, made six changes for his side's fourth match in 10 days, with the quality of those alterations highlighted by the fact they were signed at a cost of £131million.

Those fresh legs helped Chelsea to fly out of the blocks, with Torres and Andre Schurrle threatening early on.

However, during that passage of play, there was a nasty collision of heads between Jose Fonte and Dejan Lovren, leading to a break in play as the latter received treatment.

The time appeared to help Saints and, after Davis dashed off his line to smartly block off Ramires outside the box, Pochettino's men began to threaten.

Adam Lallana had Saints' first chance of note in the 17th minute, jinking past a Chelsea defender but seeing Ashley Cole block.

Morgan Schneiderlin went close soon after before Torres threatened again, before Cole's challenge stopped Jay Rodriguez netting after latching onto an exquisite chipped through ball from Gaston Ramirez.

Davis again came off his line to thwart a Chelsea attack, this time Eden Hazard the man denied, before Cesar Azpilicueta threw himself in front of a close-range Lallana strike after Calum Chambers' low cross caused problems.

Ramires' mazy run and strike not been tipped over impressively by Davis when Chelsea returned to the attack, although there was to be no first-half goal.

Nathaniel Clyne replaced Luke Shaw for a second half which began with the home side wasting a chance to open the scoring.

Having just been booked, Ramirez swung in a corner that resulted in a penalty-box melee in which Lovren and Fonte had attempts blocked, with the latter unsuccessfully claiming handball.

Referee Martin Atkinson was soon called into action, though. Put through on goal by Hazard, Oscar was adjudged to have taken a tumble when looking to round goalkeeper Davis. The Chelsea man was booed but quickly made amends, sending in the cross from which Chelsea broke the deadlock.

The playmaker's ball took a deflection off Chambers, taking the ball onto the post and Torres reacted quickest to bundle home the rebound.

Substitute Rickie Lambert, linked with an £8million move to West Ham today, headed straight at Petr Cech as Saints attempted to draw parity.

Chelsea were on top, though, and Oscar, impressing since his 53rd-minute introduction, squared a pass to countryman and fellow substitute Willian, who fired a low strike into the bottom right-hand corner to make it 2-0.

Saints were left chasing shadows for the remainder of the game and it was no surprise when Oscar completed the scoring with eight minutes remaining.

A quick break saw Hazard play through the Brazilian, who fired past Davis at his near post to wrap up a comprehensive victory.

Clyne was booked for a coming together with Azpilicueta as the match came to a close, with Ramirez curling wide in stoppage time.

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5:31pm Wed 1 Jan 14

RalphM says...

It's so clear we need is a quality striker! No point in dominating games with possession and shots if we can't hit the target!!! Need to forget the last 9 games (apart from the Cardiff result) and get back to winning starting against West Brom.
It's so clear we need is a quality striker! No point in dominating games with possession and shots if we can't hit the target!!! Need to forget the last 9 games (apart from the Cardiff result) and get back to winning starting against West Brom. RalphM

5:34pm Wed 1 Jan 14

up saints says...

not reading through all the posts from the game but i see gaston mentioned a few times,he is always better coming off the bench as for the game simple outplayed outdone in the second half.most would take 9th moving into jan
not reading through all the posts from the game but i see gaston mentioned a few times,he is always better coming off the bench as for the game simple outplayed outdone in the second half.most would take 9th moving into jan up saints

5:34pm Wed 1 Jan 14

warrens 76 says...

Barstad..I really dislike Chelsea..bullying and fairweather supporters indeed i was at the bridge late 80's or early 90's, memeory is ufcked when we had 2000 in a crowd( sic) of 8000…evening game january…today they command 42000..were did they come from?

I also lived in Portsea in 74 thank YOU hampshire social services for putting a 13 year old from Southampton in Pmuff when all those PFC til I die **** supported Chelsea..but still attacked us scummers.

However…div 2 to 1 is perhaps 2 million squad difference,, Div 1 to Championship maybe 6 million…Championsh

ip to Pemiership 20 million BUT top 10 to top 4…120 million..the maths are ridiculous ..hence the european G16 to keep all the money…

Everyone complains about the big 6 energy companies..is uber football any different…..corpor

ate bullocks ..

Readers that and that alone stops us competing.
Barstad..I really dislike Chelsea..bullying and fairweather supporters indeed i was at the bridge late 80's or early 90's, memeory is ufcked when we had 2000 in a crowd( sic) of 8000…evening game january…today they command 42000..were did they come from? I also lived in Portsea in 74 thank YOU hampshire social services for putting a 13 year old from Southampton in Pmuff when all those PFC til I die **** supported Chelsea..but still attacked us scummers. However…div 2 to 1 is perhaps 2 million squad difference,, Div 1 to Championship maybe 6 million…Championsh ip to Pemiership 20 million BUT top 10 to top 4…120 million..the maths are ridiculous ..hence the european G16 to keep all the money… Everyone complains about the big 6 energy companies..is uber football any different…..corpor ate bullocks .. Readers that and that alone stops us competing. warrens 76

5:35pm Wed 1 Jan 14

David Crook says...

As I have said before,the difference between us and the top teams is finishing.I would like to ger Puncheon back,we need him big style,poor Lambert is suffering without him.A few more defeats and the Managers position should be looked at.
As I have said before,the difference between us and the top teams is finishing.I would like to ger Puncheon back,we need him big style,poor Lambert is suffering without him.A few more defeats and the Managers position should be looked at. David Crook

5:41pm Wed 1 Jan 14

westfordUSAsaints says...

David Crook wrote:
As I have said before,the difference between us and the top teams is finishing.I would like to ger Puncheon back,we need him big style,poor Lambert is suffering without him.A few more defeats and the Managers position should be looked at.
JP is NOT the answer, he's scored one at CP and that was today from the spot. He's not what we need. Really, MOPO out?

Get a grip, we are a mid table team, this is only half way through our second season back. Sure, we need to invest, but we don't need big changes, and we don't need a knee jerk manager change now.

Just who would you get to replace MoPo? Hmm.
[quote][p][bold]David Crook[/bold] wrote: As I have said before,the difference between us and the top teams is finishing.I would like to ger Puncheon back,we need him big style,poor Lambert is suffering without him.A few more defeats and the Managers position should be looked at.[/p][/quote]JP is NOT the answer, he's scored one at CP and that was today from the spot. He's not what we need. Really, MOPO out? Get a grip, we are a mid table team, this is only half way through our second season back. Sure, we need to invest, but we don't need big changes, and we don't need a knee jerk manager change now. Just who would you get to replace MoPo? Hmm. westfordUSAsaints

5:43pm Wed 1 Jan 14

RalphM says...

To David Crook

Certainly don't think the manager’s position should be looked at if we get a couple more defeats! I agree letting Puncheon go was a mistake, especially with our lack of strength in depth. We will turn the corner; just keep the faith.
To David Crook Certainly don't think the manager’s position should be looked at if we get a couple more defeats! I agree letting Puncheon go was a mistake, especially with our lack of strength in depth. We will turn the corner; just keep the faith. RalphM

5:44pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Rocket 1 says...

Oscar deserved an Oscar for that Dive, he should have been sent off, "THE CHEATING FUC£ING CU*T " did he by any chance have a bet on???
Oscar deserved an Oscar for that Dive, he should have been sent off, "THE CHEATING FUC£ING CU*T " did he by any chance have a bet on??? Rocket 1

5:46pm Wed 1 Jan 14

SnapperSaint says...

Hey everyone, we are still 9th!!!
Just remember how long we have been back in the Premier League, if we get a good cup run and finish top half of the table, then we have progressed this season.
I think Poch had a lesson from the master in decisive tactical changes today , but he did have £50M+ worth of players to bring so we should not be too surprised when those players make some sort of impact on the game.
So bring on Burnley in the cup this weekend and looking forward to seeing us play West Brom in the next league match, hopefully we can all just put this game where it belongs, in the past!
Hey everyone, we are still 9th!!! Just remember how long we have been back in the Premier League, if we get a good cup run and finish top half of the table, then we have progressed this season. I think Poch had a lesson from the master in decisive tactical changes today , but he did have £50M+ worth of players to bring so we should not be too surprised when those players make some sort of impact on the game. So bring on Burnley in the cup this weekend and looking forward to seeing us play West Brom in the next league match, hopefully we can all just put this game where it belongs, in the past! SnapperSaint

5:50pm Wed 1 Jan 14

dadofmy3sons says...

Still 9th.
Not bad
At the beginning of the seaason the fixtures dictated that this would be the difficult part of the season
Last year we knew we had a difficult start.
This year we picked up points were we should have some of the time and maade up for the mishaps with points from unexpected.
But we are about where we should be,
We must now kick on from here and the fixtures suggest we are quite capable of that.
It is still a good time to be a Saints supporter
Still 9th. Not bad At the beginning of the seaason the fixtures dictated that this would be the difficult part of the season Last year we knew we had a difficult start. This year we picked up points were we should have some of the time and maade up for the mishaps with points from unexpected. But we are about where we should be, We must now kick on from here and the fixtures suggest we are quite capable of that. It is still a good time to be a Saints supporter dadofmy3sons

5:51pm Wed 1 Jan 14

batesieboy says...

Cech didn't have a shot to save today. Chelsea took two Brazilian internationals (60/70 million quids worth) off the bench to turn the game. We can't compete with the resources of the bullies, yet.
Cech didn't have a shot to save today. Chelsea took two Brazilian internationals (60/70 million quids worth) off the bench to turn the game. We can't compete with the resources of the bullies, yet. batesieboy

5:51pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Marchwood Malcom says...

Gaston is a show pony who hasn't repaid his transfer fee. I wouldn't be surprised to see him shipped off to the Seria A for peanuts. Come on Nic splash the cash son.
Gaston is a show pony who hasn't repaid his transfer fee. I wouldn't be surprised to see him shipped off to the Seria A for peanuts. Come on Nic splash the cash son. Marchwood Malcom

5:55pm Wed 1 Jan 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

Transfer market open , SO lets hope we buy DECENT QUALITY up front , as this is our demise . 1 -1 today would of been a fair result , and Chelski are lucky not to played with 10 men , WHY cheat when they have SKILL ???
happy new year to all S.F.C. COYR
Transfer market open , SO lets hope we buy DECENT QUALITY up front , as this is our demise . 1 -1 today would of been a fair result , and Chelski are lucky not to played with 10 men , WHY cheat when they have SKILL ??? happy new year to all S.F.C. COYR SPIKEISLANDTRADER

5:59pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Marchwood Malcom says...

Nearly forgot, Nic, please sell or loan out Danny Fox.
Nearly forgot, Nic, please sell or loan out Danny Fox. Marchwood Malcom

5:59pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Santa Retfordia says...

Dirty, blue, wife-beating shitbags. They are everything I hate about the human race rolled into one lot of players and supporters. Regardless of the result today we're not them which means we're the winners here.

Happy new year!
Dirty, blue, wife-beating shitbags. They are everything I hate about the human race rolled into one lot of players and supporters. Regardless of the result today we're not them which means we're the winners here. Happy new year! Santa Retfordia

6:02pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Santa Retfordia says...

RalphM wrote:
To David Crook

Certainly don't think the manager’s position should be looked at if we get a couple more defeats! I agree letting Puncheon go was a mistake, especially with our lack of strength in depth. We will turn the corner; just keep the faith.
Don't feed the morons.
[quote][p][bold]RalphM[/bold] wrote: To David Crook Certainly don't think the manager’s position should be looked at if we get a couple more defeats! I agree letting Puncheon go was a mistake, especially with our lack of strength in depth. We will turn the corner; just keep the faith.[/p][/quote]Don't feed the morons. Santa Retfordia

6:04pm Wed 1 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Shaw apparently aggravated a toe injury suffered against Everton.
Shaw apparently aggravated a toe injury suffered against Everton. OSPREYSAINT

6:04pm Wed 1 Jan 14

warrens 76 says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
Dirty, blue, wife-beating shitbags. They are everything I hate about the human race rolled into one lot of players and supporters. Regardless of the result today we're not them which means we're the winners here.

Happy new year!
yep.. WHUfc are tough and faithful..CFC are just bullies…Abromovich saved them from becoming another Leeds that is all..
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: Dirty, blue, wife-beating shitbags. They are everything I hate about the human race rolled into one lot of players and supporters. Regardless of the result today we're not them which means we're the winners here. Happy new year![/p][/quote]yep.. WHUfc are tough and faithful..CFC are just bullies…Abromovich saved them from becoming another Leeds that is all.. warrens 76

6:16pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Spudsaint says...

Will be an interesting transfer window for Saints. Any departing players will need to be replaced quickly. The last month has shown that we lack strength in depth and the balance of the team has been disrupted by injury despite individuals playing well. Letting Punch go out on loan was clearly a mistake. He can make things happen particularly when he cuts inside and gets the ball on his left foot. We're missing that final ball and finish. Gaston flickers in and out and I'm not convinced by Osvaldo (or by Pochettino's reasons for him being absent). The nucleus of the side is fine but we need a bit more pace and a clinical finisher. I'd like to see us take a gamble on someone like Jordan Rhodes.
Will be an interesting transfer window for Saints. Any departing players will need to be replaced quickly. The last month has shown that we lack strength in depth and the balance of the team has been disrupted by injury despite individuals playing well. Letting Punch go out on loan was clearly a mistake. He can make things happen particularly when he cuts inside and gets the ball on his left foot. We're missing that final ball and finish. Gaston flickers in and out and I'm not convinced by Osvaldo (or by Pochettino's reasons for him being absent). The nucleus of the side is fine but we need a bit more pace and a clinical finisher. I'd like to see us take a gamble on someone like Jordan Rhodes. Spudsaint

6:21pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Maine Lobster says...

Today we were beaten again by a very good side. We are in a realistic place now in the table after our good run. Now we have to cement our position by beating the other lesser teams in the league after a run against several top teams. what we can't afford to do is let any top players go in the window!
Today we were beaten again by a very good side. We are in a realistic place now in the table after our good run. Now we have to cement our position by beating the other lesser teams in the league after a run against several top teams. what we can't afford to do is let any top players go in the window! Maine Lobster

6:24pm Wed 1 Jan 14

GHamilton says...

Was at the Chelsea game last January, and i can honestly say weve not moved on. Our postion in the table belies our talents; where as last season we terrified the big clubs ( 2 against Man C, 2 against Man, ect)....now we cant score against them. Since last January, we have spent £35M...sacked a top quality manager but our perfomance today was worse than a year ago. All the dreamsof a place in Europe can be put aside, for this season, as we simply dont score enough goals, our squad lacks real depth to cope with injury. We should be fine staying up, but we need to be more carefull with how we spend in the transfer market , DL being the only value for money signing weve made.
Was at the Chelsea game last January, and i can honestly say weve not moved on. Our postion in the table belies our talents; where as last season we terrified the big clubs ( 2 against Man C, 2 against Man, ect)....now we cant score against them. Since last January, we have spent £35M...sacked a top quality manager but our perfomance today was worse than a year ago. All the dreamsof a place in Europe can be put aside, for this season, as we simply dont score enough goals, our squad lacks real depth to cope with injury. We should be fine staying up, but we need to be more carefull with how we spend in the transfer market , DL being the only value for money signing weve made. GHamilton

6:31pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Santa Retfordia says...

GHamilton wrote:
Was at the Chelsea game last January, and i can honestly say weve not moved on. Our postion in the table belies our talents; where as last season we terrified the big clubs ( 2 against Man C, 2 against Man, ect)....now we cant score against them. Since last January, we have spent £35M...sacked a top quality manager but our perfomance today was worse than a year ago. All the dreamsof a place in Europe can be put aside, for this season, as we simply dont score enough goals, our squad lacks real depth to cope with injury. We should be fine staying up, but we need to be more carefull with how we spend in the transfer market , DL being the only value for money signing weve made.
Last year people underestimated us and we had surprise on our side. This year the top teams arrive with a plan. It's going to make things harder, but it's a phase we have to move through before we come out of the other side and start beating top four sides despite the homework they do.
[quote][p][bold]GHamilton[/bold] wrote: Was at the Chelsea game last January, and i can honestly say weve not moved on. Our postion in the table belies our talents; where as last season we terrified the big clubs ( 2 against Man C, 2 against Man, ect)....now we cant score against them. Since last January, we have spent £35M...sacked a top quality manager but our perfomance today was worse than a year ago. All the dreamsof a place in Europe can be put aside, for this season, as we simply dont score enough goals, our squad lacks real depth to cope with injury. We should be fine staying up, but we need to be more carefull with how we spend in the transfer market , DL being the only value for money signing weve made.[/p][/quote]Last year people underestimated us and we had surprise on our side. This year the top teams arrive with a plan. It's going to make things harder, but it's a phase we have to move through before we come out of the other side and start beating top four sides despite the homework they do. Santa Retfordia

6:33pm Wed 1 Jan 14

only1chopper says...

Where Do i start. We need a goal poacher! We need another quality cb and to start bringing in more young players in the wide positions. Gaston is really trying, a few dodgy passes or dribbling at the wrong time, but I cannot fault his effort, plus not a lot going on in front of him to pass to! Lallana looked a bit tired, we ran out of ideas and got done by a bunch of bully's with money and a big squad. I think anyone would have taken ninth at this stage of the season, so let's not panick, get some players in and keep believing.
Where Do i start. We need a goal poacher! We need another quality cb and to start bringing in more young players in the wide positions. Gaston is really trying, a few dodgy passes or dribbling at the wrong time, but I cannot fault his effort, plus not a lot going on in front of him to pass to! Lallana looked a bit tired, we ran out of ideas and got done by a bunch of bully's with money and a big squad. I think anyone would have taken ninth at this stage of the season, so let's not panick, get some players in and keep believing. only1chopper

6:41pm Wed 1 Jan 14

costa gaz says...

This is a completely different team compared to what we were like a couple of months ago.
Have we burnt out, have the better teams sussed us, are the players not believing anymore.
Something is definately not the same at the club and if the rot does not stop we will be looking over our shoulders rather than the teams above us.
This is a completely different team compared to what we were like a couple of months ago. Have we burnt out, have the better teams sussed us, are the players not believing anymore. Something is definately not the same at the club and if the rot does not stop we will be looking over our shoulders rather than the teams above us. costa gaz

6:42pm Wed 1 Jan 14

saintbobby says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
Dirty, blue, wife-beating shitbags. They are everything I hate about the human race rolled into one lot of players and supporters. Regardless of the result today we're not them which means we're the winners here.

Happy new year!
Oh, good! That's 3 points for us after all!
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: Dirty, blue, wife-beating shitbags. They are everything I hate about the human race rolled into one lot of players and supporters. Regardless of the result today we're not them which means we're the winners here. Happy new year![/p][/quote]Oh, good! That's 3 points for us after all! saintbobby

6:48pm Wed 1 Jan 14

angus mc coatup says...

ask yourselves one question, Who would you rather be associated with.
A team of, quite decent players giving everything they have, and striving to
take their team forward and to improve themselves and their club with a decent management behind them with good faithful support and falling just short at the moment. Or would you want to support a bunch of cheating, diving, mercenary, badge kissing, cynical to$$ers. who have no affiliation to the club. and don't give a monkeys about the club as long as the money keeps rolling in. With a manager
who has his head so far up his own arse. He's almost inside out.

Well I know where my allegiances lie.....
COYR...........
ask yourselves one question, Who would you rather be associated with. A team of, quite decent players giving everything they have, and striving to take their team forward and to improve themselves and their club with a decent management behind them with good faithful support and falling just short at the moment. Or would you want to support a bunch of cheating, diving, mercenary, badge kissing, cynical to$$ers. who have no affiliation to the club. and don't give a monkeys about the club as long as the money keeps rolling in. With a manager who has his head so far up his own arse. He's almost inside out. Well I know where my allegiances lie..... COYR........... angus mc coatup

6:49pm Wed 1 Jan 14

florida saint says...

ok, not great today, but our youthfull team are still learning, not yet the finished article, so thet got beat by Chelsea, no shame in that,and hopefully learn from the defeat , if wefinish mid table then that's cool. imsure we will start winning again soon, although I feel lambo should have started as the Chelsea central defenders had a day off today.oh well onwards and upwards. u t s
ok, not great today, but our youthfull team are still learning, not yet the finished article, so thet got beat by Chelsea, no shame in that,and hopefully learn from the defeat , if wefinish mid table then that's cool. imsure we will start winning again soon, although I feel lambo should have started as the Chelsea central defenders had a day off today.oh well onwards and upwards. u t s florida saint

6:52pm Wed 1 Jan 14

saintbobby says...

Maine Lobster wrote:
Today we were beaten again by a very good side. We are in a realistic place now in the table after our good run. Now we have to cement our position by beating the other lesser teams in the league after a run against several top teams. what we can't afford to do is let any top players go in the window!
Maine, I do agree with your realism. Saints were badly exposed today and this was a footballing lesson. Chelsea's strength going forward was awesome and, let's be honest, they would have beaten just about anyone with that performance. What a joy to be able to bring on substitutes like Jose was able to do.

Results are imperative against the lower sides and still the objective is 42 points though I am convinced we will do better than that. Injuries and the recent fixture list have been really very, very difficult.

But rejoice with me! My home town Southend beat that lot 2-1 today and this has helped to cheer up this disappointed, but realistic Saint. Give the Shrimpers several thumbs up just to cheer me up a bit! Thanks.
[quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: Today we were beaten again by a very good side. We are in a realistic place now in the table after our good run. Now we have to cement our position by beating the other lesser teams in the league after a run against several top teams. what we can't afford to do is let any top players go in the window![/p][/quote]Maine, I do agree with your realism. Saints were badly exposed today and this was a footballing lesson. Chelsea's strength going forward was awesome and, let's be honest, they would have beaten just about anyone with that performance. What a joy to be able to bring on substitutes like Jose was able to do. Results are imperative against the lower sides and still the objective is 42 points though I am convinced we will do better than that. Injuries and the recent fixture list have been really very, very difficult. But rejoice with me! My home town Southend beat that lot 2-1 today and this has helped to cheer up this disappointed, but realistic Saint. Give the Shrimpers several thumbs up just to cheer me up a bit! Thanks. saintbobby

6:56pm Wed 1 Jan 14

dadofmy3sons says...

What we don't need to do is panic.
Once again we havee been linked with Daide Astori.
I think he would be a brilliant buy.
I would like to see us buy a goalscorer.
This would mean goodbye to one of the current bunch.
I think a transfer of Ricky to WHU is good financial and football sense.
If he stays with us he won't go to Brazil, because he won't be going anyway.
So he may as well take a big money move and carve hjmself another accolade as he single handedly saves them from relegation.
Who knows that feat might get him on the plane?
An absolute gent who deserves everything he gets out of football, I would like to see him stay because he energises the team.
But the team that got us there is being caught up with and new fresh blood is needed.
What we don't need to do is panic. Once again we havee been linked with Daide Astori. I think he would be a brilliant buy. I would like to see us buy a goalscorer. This would mean goodbye to one of the current bunch. I think a transfer of Ricky to WHU is good financial and football sense. If he stays with us he won't go to Brazil, because he won't be going anyway. So he may as well take a big money move and carve hjmself another accolade as he single handedly saves them from relegation. Who knows that feat might get him on the plane? An absolute gent who deserves everything he gets out of football, I would like to see him stay because he energises the team. But the team that got us there is being caught up with and new fresh blood is needed. dadofmy3sons

7:05pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

I think we need to accept that Chelski are a very good side. Cheaters and divers yes but today they did us with their directness and finishing. We gave them a good game first half but they put their bodies on the line and made some good blocks. 3-0 was very flattering for them and that was only possible because we took Corky off and allowed them more room on the break. Pity about their fans too. What a bunch of arrogant to$$ers.
I think we need to accept that Chelski are a very good side. Cheaters and divers yes but today they did us with their directness and finishing. We gave them a good game first half but they put their bodies on the line and made some good blocks. 3-0 was very flattering for them and that was only possible because we took Corky off and allowed them more room on the break. Pity about their fans too. What a bunch of arrogant to$$ers. Clever Dick

7:15pm Wed 1 Jan 14

SFCOLDBOY says...

We were beaten by a very professional, mobile team.
Their legal cheating was again noticable as their players one after the other went down feining injury, when the Saints started the get on top.
Our players seemed completely knackered in the end.
These last 4 games have taken a massive toll on them.
Chelsea can just call on players that could form another top Prem team.
We can't!
Now that said,I am at a loss to see why our 2 best players(davis and cork) were substituted.
This allowed Chelsea to dominate us in the last 20 minutes.
So disappointing to see Gaston has not moved onto the next level during the time he has been with us.
He had a big chance today to show to everyone that he is the player that we have always hoped he would be.
Sorry to say IMO he can't do it in the Prem league.
The game seems to quick and robust for him.
Bad day at the office today,take any positives and move on.
Could be worse could be Pompey.
COYS.
We were beaten by a very professional, mobile team. Their legal cheating was again noticable as their players one after the other went down feining injury, when the Saints started the get on top. Our players seemed completely knackered in the end. These last 4 games have taken a massive toll on them. Chelsea can just call on players that could form another top Prem team. We can't! Now that said,I am at a loss to see why our 2 best players(davis and cork) were substituted. This allowed Chelsea to dominate us in the last 20 minutes. So disappointing to see Gaston has not moved onto the next level during the time he has been with us. He had a big chance today to show to everyone that he is the player that we have always hoped he would be. Sorry to say IMO he can't do it in the Prem league. The game seems to quick and robust for him. Bad day at the office today,take any positives and move on. Could be worse could be Pompey. COYS. SFCOLDBOY

7:21pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
ask yourselves one question, Who would you rather be associated with.
A team of, quite decent players giving everything they have, and striving to
take their team forward and to improve themselves and their club with a decent management behind them with good faithful support and falling just short at the moment. Or would you want to support a bunch of cheating, diving, mercenary, badge kissing, cynical to$$ers. who have no affiliation to the club. and don't give a monkeys about the club as long as the money keeps rolling in. With a manager
who has his head so far up his own arse. He's almost inside out.

Well I know where my allegiances lie.....
COYR...........
Spot on, Angus. Proud to be a Saint even after a disappointing defeat.
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: ask yourselves one question, Who would you rather be associated with. A team of, quite decent players giving everything they have, and striving to take their team forward and to improve themselves and their club with a decent management behind them with good faithful support and falling just short at the moment. Or would you want to support a bunch of cheating, diving, mercenary, badge kissing, cynical to$$ers. who have no affiliation to the club. and don't give a monkeys about the club as long as the money keeps rolling in. With a manager who has his head so far up his own arse. He's almost inside out. Well I know where my allegiances lie..... COYR...........[/p][/quote]Spot on, Angus. Proud to be a Saint even after a disappointing defeat. Strasbourg Saint

7:23pm Wed 1 Jan 14

SFCOLDBOY says...

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
We were beaten by a very professional, mobile team.
Their legal cheating was again noticable as their players one after the other went down feining injury, when the Saints started the get on top.
Our players seemed completely knackered in the end.
These last 4 games have taken a massive toll on them.
Chelsea can just call on players that could form another top Prem team.
We can't!
Now that said,I am at a loss to see why our 2 best players(davis and cork) were substituted.
This allowed Chelsea to dominate us in the last 20 minutes.
So disappointing to see Gaston has not moved onto the next level during the time he has been with us.
He had a big chance today to show to everyone that he is the player that we have always hoped he would be.
Sorry to say IMO he can't do it in the Prem league.
The game seems to quick and robust for him.
Bad day at the office today,take any positives and move on.
Could be worse could be Pompey.
COYS.
Sorry to add this bit to my post.
Although today was hard to take,I stayed to the last whistle,what a disgrace our supporters leaving in droves after their last goal.
SUPPORT YOU TEAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]SFCOLDBOY[/bold] wrote: We were beaten by a very professional, mobile team. Their legal cheating was again noticable as their players one after the other went down feining injury, when the Saints started the get on top. Our players seemed completely knackered in the end. These last 4 games have taken a massive toll on them. Chelsea can just call on players that could form another top Prem team. We can't! Now that said,I am at a loss to see why our 2 best players(davis and cork) were substituted. This allowed Chelsea to dominate us in the last 20 minutes. So disappointing to see Gaston has not moved onto the next level during the time he has been with us. He had a big chance today to show to everyone that he is the player that we have always hoped he would be. Sorry to say IMO he can't do it in the Prem league. The game seems to quick and robust for him. Bad day at the office today,take any positives and move on. Could be worse could be Pompey. COYS.[/p][/quote]Sorry to add this bit to my post. Although today was hard to take,I stayed to the last whistle,what a disgrace our supporters leaving in droves after their last goal. SUPPORT YOU TEAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!! SFCOLDBOY

7:25pm Wed 1 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

.. ans Manure lose to the Spuds 1 - 2
.. ans Manure lose to the Spuds 1 - 2 OSPREYSAINT

7:28pm Wed 1 Jan 14

st1halo says...

I know people will be singling players out for blame etc etc as usual after a defeat but we were beaten by a better team today. Chelsea are the only team that have outplayed us this season, we have had the measure of every other team in the league thus far but Chelsea have stepped up their game on both occassions and showed their class. We should take it on the chin, learn and aspire.

STID
I know people will be singling players out for blame etc etc as usual after a defeat but we were beaten by a better team today. Chelsea are the only team that have outplayed us this season, we have had the measure of every other team in the league thus far but Chelsea have stepped up their game on both occassions and showed their class. We should take it on the chin, learn and aspire. STID st1halo

7:29pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
.. ans Manure lose to the Spuds 1 - 2
Yep! United may not be the United of old right now but it does put our result against Spuds into perspective.

Also, I see Villa did another smash and grab raid, with Sunderland feeling cheated by a bad decision. It's not just us that feel hard done by where refs are concerned.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: .. ans Manure lose to the Spuds 1 - 2[/p][/quote]Yep! United may not be the United of old right now but it does put our result against Spuds into perspective. Also, I see Villa did another smash and grab raid, with Sunderland feeling cheated by a bad decision. It's not just us that feel hard done by where refs are concerned. Strasbourg Saint

7:29pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
We were beaten by a very professional, mobile team.
Their legal cheating was again noticable as their players one after the other went down feining injury, when the Saints started the get on top.
Our players seemed completely knackered in the end.
These last 4 games have taken a massive toll on them.
Chelsea can just call on players that could form another top Prem team.
We can't!
Now that said,I am at a loss to see why our 2 best players(davis and cork) were substituted.
This allowed Chelsea to dominate us in the last 20 minutes.
So disappointing to see Gaston has not moved onto the next level during the time he has been with us.
He had a big chance today to show to everyone that he is the player that we have always hoped he would be.
Sorry to say IMO he can't do it in the Prem league.
The game seems to quick and robust for him.
Bad day at the office today,take any positives and move on.
Could be worse could be Pompey.
COYS.
Apart from giving the ball away a couple of times in the first half he played OK.Second half he was non-existant and I think he should have been the one substituted. Problem is MoPo was probably looking to keep the flair players on to try to get something out of the game. That cost us the cover at the back and two more goals.
[quote][p][bold]SFCOLDBOY[/bold] wrote: We were beaten by a very professional, mobile team. Their legal cheating was again noticable as their players one after the other went down feining injury, when the Saints started the get on top. Our players seemed completely knackered in the end. These last 4 games have taken a massive toll on them. Chelsea can just call on players that could form another top Prem team. We can't! Now that said,I am at a loss to see why our 2 best players(davis and cork) were substituted. This allowed Chelsea to dominate us in the last 20 minutes. So disappointing to see Gaston has not moved onto the next level during the time he has been with us. He had a big chance today to show to everyone that he is the player that we have always hoped he would be. Sorry to say IMO he can't do it in the Prem league. The game seems to quick and robust for him. Bad day at the office today,take any positives and move on. Could be worse could be Pompey. COYS.[/p][/quote]Apart from giving the ball away a couple of times in the first half he played OK.Second half he was non-existant and I think he should have been the one substituted. Problem is MoPo was probably looking to keep the flair players on to try to get something out of the game. That cost us the cover at the back and two more goals. Clever Dick

7:30pm Wed 1 Jan 14

03alpe01 says...

batesieboy wrote:
Cech didn't have a shot to save today. Chelsea took two Brazilian internationals (60/70 million quids worth) off the bench to turn the game. We can't compete with the resources of the bullies, yet.
and we never will
[quote][p][bold]batesieboy[/bold] wrote: Cech didn't have a shot to save today. Chelsea took two Brazilian internationals (60/70 million quids worth) off the bench to turn the game. We can't compete with the resources of the bullies, yet.[/p][/quote]and we never will 03alpe01

7:33pm Wed 1 Jan 14

FindAndDestroy says...

Our defence is unbalanced, it doesnt look the same.... something is missing.......
Our defence is unbalanced, it doesnt look the same.... something is missing....... FindAndDestroy

7:41pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Out of interest, seven of our last nine matches (including two aganst Chelsea) have been against teams that are above us (that's to say, in the top eight).

It would be a difficult run of fixtures for any team, especially with the injuries we've had.
Out of interest, seven of our last nine matches (including two aganst Chelsea) have been against teams that are above us (that's to say, in the top eight). It would be a difficult run of fixtures for any team, especially with the injuries we've had. Strasbourg Saint

9:26am Thu 2 Jan 14

drkensta says...

The answer to "Find and Destroy" is that in the first half when Shaw was on the field he was never in place when Chelsea attacked down their right-wing, he was somewhere up-field. When Shaw goes up he is too slow in getting back to defend, and so one of the inside defensive players or the mid-field players has to cover his vacant position. He was the cause of Everton's first goal where Coleman had a free run down the right until an ineffective challenge by Ward-Prowse. I think Shaw wants to be a Bale but he is nowhere in that class yet. Bale when playing as left back always got back to defend. If we can get 20 million pounds for him we should take it and get someone who is the finished article as a left back defensive player.
The answer to "Find and Destroy" is that in the first half when Shaw was on the field he was never in place when Chelsea attacked down their right-wing, he was somewhere up-field. When Shaw goes up he is too slow in getting back to defend, and so one of the inside defensive players or the mid-field players has to cover his vacant position. He was the cause of Everton's first goal where Coleman had a free run down the right until an ineffective challenge by Ward-Prowse. I think Shaw wants to be a Bale but he is nowhere in that class yet. Bale when playing as left back always got back to defend. If we can get 20 million pounds for him we should take it and get someone who is the finished article as a left back defensive player. drkensta

10:22am Thu 2 Jan 14

St Mark says...

GHamilton wrote:
Was at the Chelsea game last January, and i can honestly say weve not moved on. Our postion in the table belies our talents; where as last season we terrified the big clubs ( 2 against Man C, 2 against Man, ect)....now we cant score against them. Since last January, we have spent £35M...sacked a top quality manager but our perfomance today was worse than a year ago. All the dreamsof a place in Europe can be put aside, for this season, as we simply dont score enough goals, our squad lacks real depth to cope with injury. We should be fine staying up, but we need to be more carefull with how we spend in the transfer market , DL being the only value for money signing weve made.
I was at the Chelsea game last season although the one I went to was in March - so not sure what you are talking about - specifically and generally.

Chelsea were a very unhappy team that day although we played really well to beat them. Their supporters were chanting "you don't know what you're doing" for a lot of the game and it was only when Hazard came on that they started to look like a threat (apart from a blip of a Terry goal).

This season Chelsea have a top manager and are clearly a bigger and more wealthy team than we are - for the moment. On our day - with a full and fully fit team we can match anybody in the league but (in case the moaners haven't noticed) we have had a string of injuries which has unsettled the team. That plus a really tough 6 weeks of fixtures has temporarily stalled our progress.

The Premiership is a whole season affair (you have to spell it out to some people) so a run of less good results is no problem in the long run. Look whom we have coming up - lots of home and away games that are eminently winnable.

Stop moaning and get behind the team. This is the best season we have had for many, many years - if you are incapable of enjoying it - go and support a team down the coast where the blues are a weekly event and you can have something real to moan about - all the time.

Just f$%*ing cheer up!
[quote][p][bold]GHamilton[/bold] wrote: Was at the Chelsea game last January, and i can honestly say weve not moved on. Our postion in the table belies our talents; where as last season we terrified the big clubs ( 2 against Man C, 2 against Man, ect)....now we cant score against them. Since last January, we have spent £35M...sacked a top quality manager but our perfomance today was worse than a year ago. All the dreamsof a place in Europe can be put aside, for this season, as we simply dont score enough goals, our squad lacks real depth to cope with injury. We should be fine staying up, but we need to be more carefull with how we spend in the transfer market , DL being the only value for money signing weve made.[/p][/quote]I was at the Chelsea game last season although the one I went to was in March - so not sure what you are talking about - specifically and generally. Chelsea were a very unhappy team that day although we played really well to beat them. Their supporters were chanting "you don't know what you're doing" for a lot of the game and it was only when Hazard came on that they started to look like a threat (apart from a blip of a Terry goal). This season Chelsea have a top manager and are clearly a bigger and more wealthy team than we are - for the moment. On our day - with a full and fully fit team we can match anybody in the league but (in case the moaners haven't noticed) we have had a string of injuries which has unsettled the team. That plus a really tough 6 weeks of fixtures has temporarily stalled our progress. The Premiership is a whole season affair (you have to spell it out to some people) so a run of less good results is no problem in the long run. Look whom we have coming up - lots of home and away games that are eminently winnable. Stop moaning and get behind the team. This is the best season we have had for many, many years - if you are incapable of enjoying it - go and support a team down the coast where the blues are a weekly event and you can have something real to moan about - all the time. Just f$%*ing cheer up! St Mark

5:44pm Thu 2 Jan 14

redduke says...

Probably the team you didn't want to play at the end of the hectic December fixtures. They have the strongest squad, particularly in midfield, as shown with the 2 subs who changed the game. Don't know why we took JC and SD off as AL and MS were overrun as it was. Should have swapped Gaston (hopeless)for JW-P instead.
Just shows that Mr Cortese's lofty ambitions are a long way off at
the moment, but we should all feel a bit smug that we can field a team with so much young English talent, unlike Chelsea.
Diving should be a red card offence as well. Despicable
Probably the team you didn't want to play at the end of the hectic December fixtures. They have the strongest squad, particularly in midfield, as shown with the 2 subs who changed the game. Don't know why we took JC and SD off as AL and MS were overrun as it was. Should have swapped Gaston (hopeless)for JW-P instead. Just shows that Mr Cortese's lofty ambitions are a long way off at the moment, but we should all feel a bit smug that we can field a team with so much young English talent, unlike Chelsea. Diving should be a red card offence as well. Despicable redduke

10:32am Fri 3 Jan 14

Beer Monster says...

St Mark wrote:
GHamilton wrote:
Was at the Chelsea game last January, and i can honestly say weve not moved on. Our postion in the table belies our talents; where as last season we terrified the big clubs ( 2 against Man C, 2 against Man, ect)....now we cant score against them. Since last January, we have spent £35M...sacked a top quality manager but our perfomance today was worse than a year ago. All the dreamsof a place in Europe can be put aside, for this season, as we simply dont score enough goals, our squad lacks real depth to cope with injury. We should be fine staying up, but we need to be more carefull with how we spend in the transfer market , DL being the only value for money signing weve made.
I was at the Chelsea game last season although the one I went to was in March - so not sure what you are talking about - specifically and generally.

Chelsea were a very unhappy team that day although we played really well to beat them. Their supporters were chanting "you don't know what you're doing" for a lot of the game and it was only when Hazard came on that they started to look like a threat (apart from a blip of a Terry goal).

This season Chelsea have a top manager and are clearly a bigger and more wealthy team than we are - for the moment. On our day - with a full and fully fit team we can match anybody in the league but (in case the moaners haven't noticed) we have had a string of injuries which has unsettled the team. That plus a really tough 6 weeks of fixtures has temporarily stalled our progress.

The Premiership is a whole season affair (you have to spell it out to some people) so a run of less good results is no problem in the long run. Look whom we have coming up - lots of home and away games that are eminently winnable.

Stop moaning and get behind the team. This is the best season we have had for many, many years - if you are incapable of enjoying it - go and support a team down the coast where the blues are a weekly event and you can have something real to moan about - all the time.

Just f$%*ing cheer up!
Presumably that was the 2-2 at the Bridge, after which Sir Nige was sacked... Retford has it spot on when he mentioned that the top teams (or maybe their management) have learned how to handle us.

We need some extra dimensions across the pitch - get the players taking the ball out wide earlier and thus covering their opponents tracks before they are able to press back in our face, which happened far too often against Chelskum.

Maybe add one or two players for cover and/or battle for places, but I think at least one needs to be a natural poacher in the Alan Shearer vein.
[quote][p][bold]St Mark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GHamilton[/bold] wrote: Was at the Chelsea game last January, and i can honestly say weve not moved on. Our postion in the table belies our talents; where as last season we terrified the big clubs ( 2 against Man C, 2 against Man, ect)....now we cant score against them. Since last January, we have spent £35M...sacked a top quality manager but our perfomance today was worse than a year ago. All the dreamsof a place in Europe can be put aside, for this season, as we simply dont score enough goals, our squad lacks real depth to cope with injury. We should be fine staying up, but we need to be more carefull with how we spend in the transfer market , DL being the only value for money signing weve made.[/p][/quote]I was at the Chelsea game last season although the one I went to was in March - so not sure what you are talking about - specifically and generally. Chelsea were a very unhappy team that day although we played really well to beat them. Their supporters were chanting "you don't know what you're doing" for a lot of the game and it was only when Hazard came on that they started to look like a threat (apart from a blip of a Terry goal). This season Chelsea have a top manager and are clearly a bigger and more wealthy team than we are - for the moment. On our day - with a full and fully fit team we can match anybody in the league but (in case the moaners haven't noticed) we have had a string of injuries which has unsettled the team. That plus a really tough 6 weeks of fixtures has temporarily stalled our progress. The Premiership is a whole season affair (you have to spell it out to some people) so a run of less good results is no problem in the long run. Look whom we have coming up - lots of home and away games that are eminently winnable. Stop moaning and get behind the team. This is the best season we have had for many, many years - if you are incapable of enjoying it - go and support a team down the coast where the blues are a weekly event and you can have something real to moan about - all the time. Just f$%*ing cheer up![/p][/quote]Presumably that was the 2-2 at the Bridge, after which Sir Nige was sacked... Retford has it spot on when he mentioned that the top teams (or maybe their management) have learned how to handle us. We need some extra dimensions across the pitch - get the players taking the ball out wide earlier and thus covering their opponents tracks before they are able to press back in our face, which happened far too often against Chelskum. Maybe add one or two players for cover and/or battle for places, but I think at least one needs to be a natural poacher in the Alan Shearer vein. Beer Monster

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