Lovren and Ramirez out for "6-8 weeks"

Daily Echo: Dejan Lovren Dejan Lovren

Dejan Lovren and Gaston Ramirez are set to be out for between six and eight weeks, Saints assistant boss Jesus Perez has confirmed.

The pair were stretchered off during the latter stages of last weekend’s 2-2 draw at Sunderland, and are both now set for an extended spell on the sidelines with ankle ligament damage.

“They’ve confirmed serious injuries, both ankles,” said Perez. “Probably they are ruled out for six to eight weeks.

"We are trying to accelerate their recovery, and the medical staff prepared different strategies to try to recover the players as soon as possible.

“But for some weeks both are out.”

The Croatian Football Association had earlier this week reported that Lovren was due to be out for three to four weeks.

However, the problem has now been revealed to be more serious than that.

Perez himself admitted that Saints had not initially expected the centre half’s injury to be as bad as Ramirez’s.

“We expected a minor injury from Dejan Lovren and more serious for Gaston, but at the end they have similar injuries – damage of ligaments,” he said. “But we hope to recover them as soon as possible.”

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9:56am Thu 23 Jan 14

Sadoldgitte says...

Buy a centre half now please.
Buy a centre half now please. Sadoldgitte

9:59am Thu 23 Jan 14

mbetts says...

Hope they come back fitter than ever, no rush we have adequate cover for Lovren and Ramirez is only bit-part at the moment anyway.

Doubt either will rush back, they'll be more focused on being fit for Brazil, and Lovren has done enough this season to earn a rest anyway.
Hope they come back fitter than ever, no rush we have adequate cover for Lovren and Ramirez is only bit-part at the moment anyway. Doubt either will rush back, they'll be more focused on being fit for Brazil, and Lovren has done enough this season to earn a rest anyway. mbetts

10:08am Thu 23 Jan 14

Jonny7oma says...

Yes indeed, we needed another centre half before this but now it's essential. Ramirez we can cope with (which says a lot about him although he was beginning to look promising again) but centre halves..... So....

Dear Ms Leibherr,
We'd like a strapping, athletic 6'4" centre half who can go for 90 minutes and barely break into a sweat.
oh.... you've already been looking....

Alternatively, break out the Poch! He can roll back the years with a long haired wig and even scythe Michael Owen down for fun when BTsport turn up. Actually, forget the wig and career U turn, could you just scythe the little berk in half anyway. For Charity obviously. Ta.
Yes indeed, we needed another centre half before this but now it's essential. Ramirez we can cope with (which says a lot about him although he was beginning to look promising again) but centre halves..... So.... Dear Ms Leibherr, We'd like a strapping, athletic 6'4" centre half who can go for 90 minutes and barely break into a sweat. oh.... you've already been looking.... Alternatively, break out the Poch! He can roll back the years with a long haired wig and even scythe Michael Owen down for fun when BTsport turn up. Actually, forget the wig and career U turn, could you just scythe the little berk in half anyway. For Charity obviously. Ta. Jonny7oma

10:11am Thu 23 Jan 14

Dickosfc says...

So we're looking at the end of March! Everyone banging on about West Ham, Man UTD etc being unlucky with injuries but we've had our fair share these last few months.
So we're looking at the end of March! Everyone banging on about West Ham, Man UTD etc being unlucky with injuries but we've had our fair share these last few months. Dickosfc

10:16am Thu 23 Jan 14

mbetts says...

Dickosfc wrote:
So we're looking at the end of March! Everyone banging on about West Ham, Man UTD etc being unlucky with injuries but we've had our fair share these last few months.
By people do you just mean Alardyce and Moyes?
[quote][p][bold]Dickosfc[/bold] wrote: So we're looking at the end of March! Everyone banging on about West Ham, Man UTD etc being unlucky with injuries but we've had our fair share these last few months.[/p][/quote]By people do you just mean Alardyce and Moyes? mbetts

10:26am Thu 23 Jan 14

Confucious says...

Hopefully Wanyama will be back very soon.

Wonder what Rickie made of last night's penalty fiasco at Manure?
Hopefully Wanyama will be back very soon. Wonder what Rickie made of last night's penalty fiasco at Manure? Confucious

10:27am Thu 23 Jan 14

brightday says...

What about Jack Stevens in the u21's good player for the CH
What about Jack Stevens in the u21's good player for the CH brightday

10:33am Thu 23 Jan 14

ToastyTea says...

Lovren being out for so long is a massive blow, Jos is terrible and Yoshida ain't to great either. Please buy someone.
Lovren being out for so long is a massive blow, Jos is terrible and Yoshida ain't to great either. Please buy someone. ToastyTea

10:33am Thu 23 Jan 14

therealredarmy says...

What a blow ! I'm still scratching my head over Wes Brown challenge should have been a red card for sure and at least 5 match ban for that horror tackle .
What a blow ! I'm still scratching my head over Wes Brown challenge should have been a red card for sure and at least 5 match ban for that horror tackle . therealredarmy

10:40am Thu 23 Jan 14

hedge end bob says...

Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.
Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??. hedge end bob

10:50am Thu 23 Jan 14

SaintAsh1964 says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.
Have you not read the article?
It says" said Perez" he's the Assistant Manager, so I'm guessing it's official.
Lescott on loan?
Buy Shawcroft?
The elusive Astori?
Maybe there are some straws we could clutch at!
UTS
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.[/p][/quote]Have you not read the article? It says" said Perez" he's the Assistant Manager, so I'm guessing it's official. Lescott on loan? Buy Shawcroft? The elusive Astori? Maybe there are some straws we could clutch at! UTS SaintAsh1964

10:52am Thu 23 Jan 14

Ozmosis says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.
It came from this morning's interview with the (assistant) manager.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.[/p][/quote]It came from this morning's interview with the (assistant) manager. Ozmosis

10:55am Thu 23 Jan 14

milton road says...

Yoshida's problem is not enough games he is rusty comes in for the odd game. In fairness for a lot of last season after the first ten games, he and Fonte looked tight. and averaged conceding roughly a goal a game. We do though need another centre half and it would be seen as an act of intent by the owner. Astori would be good, why buy one for the interim when we can buy a good one for three and four years. Whether now or summer we are going to need one, makes sense to get one now. IMO.
Yoshida's problem is not enough games he is rusty comes in for the odd game. In fairness for a lot of last season after the first ten games, he and Fonte looked tight. and averaged conceding roughly a goal a game. We do though need another centre half and it would be seen as an act of intent by the owner. Astori would be good, why buy one for the interim when we can buy a good one for three and four years. Whether now or summer we are going to need one, makes sense to get one now. IMO. milton road

10:56am Thu 23 Jan 14

hedge end bob says...

SaintAsh1964 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.
Have you not read the article?
It says" said Perez" he's the Assistant Manager, so I'm guessing it's official.
Lescott on loan?
Buy Shawcroft?
The elusive Astori?
Maybe there are some straws we could clutch at!
UTS
why no mention on the SAINTS site??. We all know they will be out but not for how long . Guess work by the D E.
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.[/p][/quote]Have you not read the article? It says" said Perez" he's the Assistant Manager, so I'm guessing it's official. Lescott on loan? Buy Shawcroft? The elusive Astori? Maybe there are some straws we could clutch at! UTS[/p][/quote]why no mention on the SAINTS site??. We all know they will be out but not for how long . Guess work by the D E. hedge end bob

11:03am Thu 23 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.
This was from a TV an interview, part of it has been on SkySN this morning.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.[/p][/quote]This was from a TV an interview, part of it has been on SkySN this morning. OSPREYSAINT

11:07am Thu 23 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

hedge end bob wrote:
SaintAsh1964 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.
Have you not read the article?
It says" said Perez" he's the Assistant Manager, so I'm guessing it's official.
Lescott on loan?
Buy Shawcroft?
The elusive Astori?
Maybe there are some straws we could clutch at!
UTS
why no mention on the SAINTS site??. We all know they will be out but not for how long . Guess work by the D E.
Give the DE bashing a rest, and the OS has http://www.saintsfc.
co.uk/news/article/p
erez-eyes-cup-gains-
1311297.aspx and the older http://www.saintsfc.
co.uk/news/article/i
njury-update-lovren-
ramirez-1309638.aspx
, the Club would still not want to give the opposition too much information.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.[/p][/quote]Have you not read the article? It says" said Perez" he's the Assistant Manager, so I'm guessing it's official. Lescott on loan? Buy Shawcroft? The elusive Astori? Maybe there are some straws we could clutch at! UTS[/p][/quote]why no mention on the SAINTS site??. We all know they will be out but not for how long . Guess work by the D E.[/p][/quote]Give the DE bashing a rest, and the OS has http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/news/article/p erez-eyes-cup-gains- 1311297.aspx and the older http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/news/article/i njury-update-lovren- ramirez-1309638.aspx , the Club would still not want to give the opposition too much information. OSPREYSAINT

11:08am Thu 23 Jan 14

StevieSteve says...

Ozmosis wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.
It came from this morning's interview with the (assistant) manager.
WAKE UP BOB
[quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.[/p][/quote]It came from this morning's interview with the (assistant) manager.[/p][/quote]WAKE UP BOB StevieSteve

11:13am Thu 23 Jan 14

St Retford says...

StevieSteve wrote:
Ozmosis wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.
It came from this morning's interview with the (assistant) manager.
WAKE UP BOB
I LOVE the Boo Radleys.
[quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.[/p][/quote]It came from this morning's interview with the (assistant) manager.[/p][/quote]WAKE UP BOB[/p][/quote]I LOVE the Boo Radleys. St Retford

11:13am Thu 23 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

If Poch had to leave for anyreason, God forbid, Jesus Perez seems a good subsitute!
If Poch had to leave for anyreason, God forbid, Jesus Perez seems a good subsitute! OSPREYSAINT

11:14am Thu 23 Jan 14

IanqaRC says...

T he referee is partly to blame for Lovren's injury. If he had done his job Ramirez would have received treatment, Brown would have been off and play would have stopped before the second injury. A disgrace as is the fact the FA have not taken retrospective action, Brown had both feet off the ground when he made the challenge, bet none of our defenders would get away with a tackle like that. Shows the double standards applied by the Football authorities. If precious Hazard trips himself up there is an almost automatic booking for the nearest defender as Callum Chambers knows. Shame really as otherwise the referee had a a decent game. Who says cheating isn't alive and well in the English game and some of it appears to be institutionalised.
T he referee is partly to blame for Lovren's injury. If he had done his job Ramirez would have received treatment, Brown would have been off and play would have stopped before the second injury. A disgrace as is the fact the FA have not taken retrospective action, Brown had both feet off the ground when he made the challenge, bet none of our defenders would get away with a tackle like that. Shows the double standards applied by the Football authorities. If precious Hazard trips himself up there is an almost automatic booking for the nearest defender as Callum Chambers knows. Shame really as otherwise the referee had a a decent game. Who says cheating isn't alive and well in the English game and some of it appears to be institutionalised. IanqaRC

11:14am Thu 23 Jan 14

St Retford says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
If Poch had to leave for anyreason, God forbid, Jesus Perez seems a good subsitute!
I don't think you get one without the other. That's the thing with Poch - Jesus is always with him.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: If Poch had to leave for anyreason, God forbid, Jesus Perez seems a good subsitute![/p][/quote]I don't think you get one without the other. That's the thing with Poch - Jesus is always with him. St Retford

11:18am Thu 23 Jan 14

Dickosfc says...

mbetts wrote:
Dickosfc wrote:
So we're looking at the end of March! Everyone banging on about West Ham, Man UTD etc being unlucky with injuries but we've had our fair share these last few months.
By people do you just mean Alardyce and Moyes?
Yeah those among others! Hear it all over Talksport/Twitter. With Boruc, Wanyama, Clyne, Shaw to an extent, now Lovren with had a fair share of our first team out. Credit to Poch and the players for getting on with it and not bang on about it like big Sam. Got a couple of Hammers fans at work and i've never seen such a deflated bunch.
[quote][p][bold]mbetts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dickosfc[/bold] wrote: So we're looking at the end of March! Everyone banging on about West Ham, Man UTD etc being unlucky with injuries but we've had our fair share these last few months.[/p][/quote]By people do you just mean Alardyce and Moyes?[/p][/quote]Yeah those among others! Hear it all over Talksport/Twitter. With Boruc, Wanyama, Clyne, Shaw to an extent, now Lovren with had a fair share of our first team out. Credit to Poch and the players for getting on with it and not bang on about it like big Sam. Got a couple of Hammers fans at work and i've never seen such a deflated bunch. Dickosfc

11:31am Thu 23 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

It's a great shame that these injuries( especially Dejan) have come when we have a run of games coming up where we could easily pile up a good few victories in a row. I think Yosh will be an adequate substitute as he did OK last year but we sure don't want any more injuries.
It's a great shame that these injuries( especially Dejan) have come when we have a run of games coming up where we could easily pile up a good few victories in a row. I think Yosh will be an adequate substitute as he did OK last year but we sure don't want any more injuries. Clever Dick

11:37am Thu 23 Jan 14

hedge end bob says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.
This was from a TV an interview, part of it has been on SkySN this morning.
Thank you OSPREY , not put tele on yet so could only go by SAINTS site. Bad news then but we all knew not good after watching the game on t v. Just hope poochy will want to buy now instead of going with what we got. Stil look on the bright side, FOUR more wins and we wont go down.
As you can see ossie started reading again. And with bad grammar and spelling, mine not yours constable..
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.[/p][/quote]This was from a TV an interview, part of it has been on SkySN this morning.[/p][/quote]Thank you OSPREY , not put tele on yet so could only go by SAINTS site. Bad news then but we all knew not good after watching the game on t v. Just hope poochy will want to buy now instead of going with what we got. Stil look on the bright side, FOUR more wins and we wont go down. As you can see ossie started reading again. And with bad grammar and spelling, mine not yours constable.. hedge end bob

11:37am Thu 23 Jan 14

hedge end bob says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.
This was from a TV an interview, part of it has been on SkySN this morning.
Thank you OSPREY , not put tele on yet so could only go by SAINTS site. Bad news then but we all knew not good after watching the game on t v. Just hope poochy will want to buy now instead of going with what we got. Stil look on the bright side, FOUR more wins and we wont go down.
As you can see ossie started reading again. And with bad grammar and spelling, mine not yours constable..
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.[/p][/quote]This was from a TV an interview, part of it has been on SkySN this morning.[/p][/quote]Thank you OSPREY , not put tele on yet so could only go by SAINTS site. Bad news then but we all knew not good after watching the game on t v. Just hope poochy will want to buy now instead of going with what we got. Stil look on the bright side, FOUR more wins and we wont go down. As you can see ossie started reading again. And with bad grammar and spelling, mine not yours constable.. hedge end bob

11:37am Thu 23 Jan 14

warrens 76 says...

At the start of the season we were predominantly concerned with our failure to take chances…I still am…

Boruc pulled of some sensetional saves and Wanyama put himself about a bit leading to an inevitable suspension…..our only top four class defender is Lovren any injury to him as well as the aboves absence meant that under no circumstances could we rely on our defense, end of..

….so in order to progress or at least not slip any further we have to take our chances…..

…to date we have lost these CLEARCUT points only because of finishing..
4 points to Sunderland
2points to Newcastle
2 points to WHU
2points Citeh
1 point Spurs
adjusting the table accordingly we would still be top 5.
Not arguing about denied penalty's, biased refs just a lack of killer instinct….sort it out MoPo.
At the start of the season we were predominantly concerned with our failure to take chances…I still am… Boruc pulled of some sensetional saves and Wanyama put himself about a bit leading to an inevitable suspension…..our only top four class defender is Lovren any injury to him as well as the aboves absence meant that under no circumstances could we rely on our defense, end of.. ….so in order to progress or at least not slip any further we have to take our chances….. …to date we have lost these CLEARCUT points only because of finishing.. 4 points to Sunderland 2points to Newcastle 2 points to WHU 2points Citeh 1 point Spurs adjusting the table accordingly we would still be top 5. Not arguing about denied penalty's, biased refs just a lack of killer instinct….sort it out MoPo. warrens 76

11:43am Thu 23 Jan 14

hedge end bob says...

SaintAsh1964 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.
Have you not read the article?
It says" said Perez" he's the Assistant Manager, so I'm guessing it's official.
Lescott on loan?
Buy Shawcroft?
The elusive Astori?
Maybe there are some straws we could clutch at!
UTS
Yes read the article but never saw the TV INTERVIEW on Sky
Had tea and toast with HER MAJESTY this morning, you've just read that bt do you believe me ????.
Get my point now???
Have a nice day SaintAsh1964.
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.[/p][/quote]Have you not read the article? It says" said Perez" he's the Assistant Manager, so I'm guessing it's official. Lescott on loan? Buy Shawcroft? The elusive Astori? Maybe there are some straws we could clutch at! UTS[/p][/quote]Yes read the article but never saw the TV INTERVIEW on Sky Had tea and toast with HER MAJESTY this morning, you've just read that bt do you believe me ????. Get my point now??? Have a nice day SaintAsh1964. hedge end bob

11:45am Thu 23 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Oz is on a two week suspension for being a naughty boy on the training ground, get rid I say.
Oz is on a two week suspension for being a naughty boy on the training ground, get rid I say. OSPREYSAINT

11:47am Thu 23 Jan 14

Confucious says...

Alarmingly, a Green Party spokeswoman has said this morning that the growing number of football injuries are caused by slippery pitch surfaces resulting directly from global warming. Injuries will rise by a frightening 150% by 2040 at the current rate of carbon emission.

This will be a direct result of some unusually severe winters and exceptionally dry summers interspersed with some hitherto weirdly and never-before-experie
nced lengthy periods of extremely neither especially cold or warm weather nor particularly wet or dry conditions.

I think the club should make all our players sell their really big cars and cycle to Staplewood.
Alarmingly, a Green Party spokeswoman has said this morning that the growing number of football injuries are caused by slippery pitch surfaces resulting directly from global warming. Injuries will rise by a frightening 150% by 2040 at the current rate of carbon emission. This will be a direct result of some unusually severe winters and exceptionally dry summers interspersed with some hitherto weirdly and never-before-experie nced lengthy periods of extremely neither especially cold or warm weather nor particularly wet or dry conditions. I think the club should make all our players sell their really big cars and cycle to Staplewood. Confucious

11:50am Thu 23 Jan 14

IanqaRC says...

warrens 76 wrote:
At the start of the season we were predominantly concerned with our failure to take chances…I still am…

Boruc pulled of some sensetional saves and Wanyama put himself about a bit leading to an inevitable suspension…..our only top four class defender is Lovren any injury to him as well as the aboves absence meant that under no circumstances could we rely on our defense, end of..

….so in order to progress or at least not slip any further we have to take our chances…..

…to date we have lost these CLEARCUT points only because of finishing..
4 points to Sunderland
2points to Newcastle
2 points to WHU
2points Citeh
1 point Spurs
adjusting the table accordingly we would still be top 5.
Not arguing about denied penalty's, biased refs just a lack of killer instinct….sort it out MoPo.
Agree Warren. Rodriguez is a great prospect and is our leading scorer but he is very wasteful in front of goal. Needs to work on his conversion rate. Think the Lambert Lallana partnership is looking good though.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: At the start of the season we were predominantly concerned with our failure to take chances…I still am… Boruc pulled of some sensetional saves and Wanyama put himself about a bit leading to an inevitable suspension…..our only top four class defender is Lovren any injury to him as well as the aboves absence meant that under no circumstances could we rely on our defense, end of.. ….so in order to progress or at least not slip any further we have to take our chances….. …to date we have lost these CLEARCUT points only because of finishing.. 4 points to Sunderland 2points to Newcastle 2 points to WHU 2points Citeh 1 point Spurs adjusting the table accordingly we would still be top 5. Not arguing about denied penalty's, biased refs just a lack of killer instinct….sort it out MoPo.[/p][/quote]Agree Warren. Rodriguez is a great prospect and is our leading scorer but he is very wasteful in front of goal. Needs to work on his conversion rate. Think the Lambert Lallana partnership is looking good though. IanqaRC

12:03pm Thu 23 Jan 14

hedge end bob says...

warrens 76 wrote:
At the start of the season we were predominantly concerned with our failure to take chances…I still am…

Boruc pulled of some sensetional saves and Wanyama put himself about a bit leading to an inevitable suspension…..our only top four class defender is Lovren any injury to him as well as the aboves absence meant that under no circumstances could we rely on our defense, end of..

….so in order to progress or at least not slip any further we have to take our chances…..

…to date we have lost these CLEARCUT points only because of finishing..
4 points to Sunderland
2points to Newcastle
2 points to WHU
2points Citeh
1 point Spurs
adjusting the table accordingly we would still be top 5.
Not arguing about denied penalty's, biased refs just a lack of killer instinct….sort it out MoPo.
Agree warrens , on ratio, shots on goal and goals scored not impresive. We need Os to get amongst the goals this weekend. Rickie too play as a CF , we should win by 2 or3 goals.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: At the start of the season we were predominantly concerned with our failure to take chances…I still am… Boruc pulled of some sensetional saves and Wanyama put himself about a bit leading to an inevitable suspension…..our only top four class defender is Lovren any injury to him as well as the aboves absence meant that under no circumstances could we rely on our defense, end of.. ….so in order to progress or at least not slip any further we have to take our chances….. …to date we have lost these CLEARCUT points only because of finishing.. 4 points to Sunderland 2points to Newcastle 2 points to WHU 2points Citeh 1 point Spurs adjusting the table accordingly we would still be top 5. Not arguing about denied penalty's, biased refs just a lack of killer instinct….sort it out MoPo.[/p][/quote]Agree warrens , on ratio, shots on goal and goals scored not impresive. We need Os to get amongst the goals this weekend. Rickie too play as a CF , we should win by 2 or3 goals. hedge end bob

12:39pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Brusher Mills says...

mbetts wrote:
Hope they come back fitter than ever, no rush we have adequate cover for Lovren and Ramirez is only bit-part at the moment anyway. Doubt either will rush back, they'll be more focused on being fit for Brazil, and Lovren has done enough this season to earn a rest anyway.
Adequate cover for Lovren, um no we do not, far from it.
[quote][p][bold]mbetts[/bold] wrote: Hope they come back fitter than ever, no rush we have adequate cover for Lovren and Ramirez is only bit-part at the moment anyway. Doubt either will rush back, they'll be more focused on being fit for Brazil, and Lovren has done enough this season to earn a rest anyway.[/p][/quote]Adequate cover for Lovren, um no we do not, far from it. Brusher Mills

12:39pm Thu 23 Jan 14

SaintAsh1964 says...

hedge end bob wrote:
SaintAsh1964 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.
Have you not read the article?
It says" said Perez" he's the Assistant Manager, so I'm guessing it's official.
Lescott on loan?
Buy Shawcroft?
The elusive Astori?
Maybe there are some straws we could clutch at!
UTS
Yes read the article but never saw the TV INTERVIEW on Sky
Had tea and toast with HER MAJESTY this morning, you've just read that bt do you believe me ????.
Get my point now???
Have a nice day SaintAsh1964.
I never saw the TV Interview either, I just read the DE as above, and what the FCK as Her Maj got to do with anything?
UTS
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.[/p][/quote]Have you not read the article? It says" said Perez" he's the Assistant Manager, so I'm guessing it's official. Lescott on loan? Buy Shawcroft? The elusive Astori? Maybe there are some straws we could clutch at! UTS[/p][/quote]Yes read the article but never saw the TV INTERVIEW on Sky Had tea and toast with HER MAJESTY this morning, you've just read that bt do you believe me ????. Get my point now??? Have a nice day SaintAsh1964.[/p][/quote]I never saw the TV Interview either, I just read the DE as above, and what the FCK as Her Maj got to do with anything? UTS SaintAsh1964

1:49pm Thu 23 Jan 14

hedge end bob says...

SaintAsh1964 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
SaintAsh1964 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.
Have you not read the article?
It says" said Perez" he's the Assistant Manager, so I'm guessing it's official.
Lescott on loan?
Buy Shawcroft?
The elusive Astori?
Maybe there are some straws we could clutch at!
UTS
Yes read the article but never saw the TV INTERVIEW on Sky
Had tea and toast with HER MAJESTY this morning, you've just read that bt do you believe me ????.
Get my point now???
Have a nice day SaintAsh1964.
I never saw the TV Interview either, I just read the DE as above, and what the FCK as Her Maj got to do with anything?
UTS
Still don't get the point, i can wait, but won't expain!!!
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.[/p][/quote]Have you not read the article? It says" said Perez" he's the Assistant Manager, so I'm guessing it's official. Lescott on loan? Buy Shawcroft? The elusive Astori? Maybe there are some straws we could clutch at! UTS[/p][/quote]Yes read the article but never saw the TV INTERVIEW on Sky Had tea and toast with HER MAJESTY this morning, you've just read that bt do you believe me ????. Get my point now??? Have a nice day SaintAsh1964.[/p][/quote]I never saw the TV Interview either, I just read the DE as above, and what the FCK as Her Maj got to do with anything? UTS[/p][/quote]Still don't get the point, i can wait, but won't expain!!! hedge end bob

2:48pm Thu 23 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

hedge end bob wrote:
SaintAsh1964 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.
Have you not read the article?
It says" said Perez" he's the Assistant Manager, so I'm guessing it's official.
Lescott on loan?
Buy Shawcroft?
The elusive Astori?
Maybe there are some straws we could clutch at!
UTS
Yes read the article but never saw the TV INTERVIEW on Sky
Had tea and toast with HER MAJESTY this morning, you've just read that bt do you believe me ????.
Get my point now???
Have a nice day SaintAsh1964.
Tea and toast at Her Majesties pleasure was that? Not in trouble (again?) I hope.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Don't know where the get this news from??. Nothing on the SAINTS website. Last read on there said that the club would keep the fans aware of any news as soon as is available. Gordon who have you been speaking to , the cleaners??. We all know they wont be playing against Yeovil but, 6 to 8 weeks??.[/p][/quote]Have you not read the article? It says" said Perez" he's the Assistant Manager, so I'm guessing it's official. Lescott on loan? Buy Shawcroft? The elusive Astori? Maybe there are some straws we could clutch at! UTS[/p][/quote]Yes read the article but never saw the TV INTERVIEW on Sky Had tea and toast with HER MAJESTY this morning, you've just read that bt do you believe me ????. Get my point now??? Have a nice day SaintAsh1964.[/p][/quote]Tea and toast at Her Majesties pleasure was that? Not in trouble (again?) I hope. OSPREYSAINT

5:40pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

IanqaRC wrote:
T he referee is partly to blame for Lovren's injury. If he had done his job Ramirez would have received treatment, Brown would have been off and play would have stopped before the second injury. A disgrace as is the fact the FA have not taken retrospective action, Brown had both feet off the ground when he made the challenge, bet none of our defenders would get away with a tackle like that. Shows the double standards applied by the Football authorities. If precious Hazard trips himself up there is an almost automatic booking for the nearest defender as Callum Chambers knows. Shame really as otherwise the referee had a a decent game. Who says cheating isn't alive and well in the English game and some of it appears to be institutionalised.
It's my fault. At half time I commented that Foy was having a good game.

Then came the second half. To me, it felt like someone had been in to see him. (Not that lovable Gus, surely!) In that second half, there was a short period of play in which three or four Sunderland players were kicking lumps out of one or two Saints players (I can't remember who it was). Finally, after a 'nothing' tackle, Foy gave Sunderland a free kick. The writing was on the wall.
[quote][p][bold]IanqaRC[/bold] wrote: T he referee is partly to blame for Lovren's injury. If he had done his job Ramirez would have received treatment, Brown would have been off and play would have stopped before the second injury. A disgrace as is the fact the FA have not taken retrospective action, Brown had both feet off the ground when he made the challenge, bet none of our defenders would get away with a tackle like that. Shows the double standards applied by the Football authorities. If precious Hazard trips himself up there is an almost automatic booking for the nearest defender as Callum Chambers knows. Shame really as otherwise the referee had a a decent game. Who says cheating isn't alive and well in the English game and some of it appears to be institutionalised.[/p][/quote]It's my fault. At half time I commented that Foy was having a good game. Then came the second half. To me, it felt like someone had been in to see him. (Not that lovable Gus, surely!) In that second half, there was a short period of play in which three or four Sunderland players were kicking lumps out of one or two Saints players (I can't remember who it was). Finally, after a 'nothing' tackle, Foy gave Sunderland a free kick. The writing was on the wall. Strasbourg Saint

7:53pm Thu 23 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
IanqaRC wrote:
T he referee is partly to blame for Lovren's injury. If he had done his job Ramirez would have received treatment, Brown would have been off and play would have stopped before the second injury. A disgrace as is the fact the FA have not taken retrospective action, Brown had both feet off the ground when he made the challenge, bet none of our defenders would get away with a tackle like that. Shows the double standards applied by the Football authorities. If precious Hazard trips himself up there is an almost automatic booking for the nearest defender as Callum Chambers knows. Shame really as otherwise the referee had a a decent game. Who says cheating isn't alive and well in the English game and some of it appears to be institutionalised.
It's my fault. At half time I commented that Foy was having a good game.

Then came the second half. To me, it felt like someone had been in to see him. (Not that lovable Gus, surely!) In that second half, there was a short period of play in which three or four Sunderland players were kicking lumps out of one or two Saints players (I can't remember who it was). Finally, after a 'nothing' tackle, Foy gave Sunderland a free kick. The writing was on the wall.
My quote on the match thread at 2:17 pm says it all, i.e. "Funny how a lot of decisions seem to be going against us this half or am I imagining it?"
In fact I wasn't imagining it, it was a matter of fact, and the resulting injury to Gaston was partially down to another decision that didn't go our way.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IanqaRC[/bold] wrote: T he referee is partly to blame for Lovren's injury. If he had done his job Ramirez would have received treatment, Brown would have been off and play would have stopped before the second injury. A disgrace as is the fact the FA have not taken retrospective action, Brown had both feet off the ground when he made the challenge, bet none of our defenders would get away with a tackle like that. Shows the double standards applied by the Football authorities. If precious Hazard trips himself up there is an almost automatic booking for the nearest defender as Callum Chambers knows. Shame really as otherwise the referee had a a decent game. Who says cheating isn't alive and well in the English game and some of it appears to be institutionalised.[/p][/quote]It's my fault. At half time I commented that Foy was having a good game. Then came the second half. To me, it felt like someone had been in to see him. (Not that lovable Gus, surely!) In that second half, there was a short period of play in which three or four Sunderland players were kicking lumps out of one or two Saints players (I can't remember who it was). Finally, after a 'nothing' tackle, Foy gave Sunderland a free kick. The writing was on the wall.[/p][/quote]My quote on the match thread at 2:17 pm says it all, i.e. "Funny how a lot of decisions seem to be going against us this half or am I imagining it?" In fact I wasn't imagining it, it was a matter of fact, and the resulting injury to Gaston was partially down to another decision that didn't go our way. OSPREYSAINT

10:44pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
IanqaRC wrote:
T he referee is partly to blame for Lovren's injury. If he had done his job Ramirez would have received treatment, Brown would have been off and play would have stopped before the second injury. A disgrace as is the fact the FA have not taken retrospective action, Brown had both feet off the ground when he made the challenge, bet none of our defenders would get away with a tackle like that. Shows the double standards applied by the Football authorities. If precious Hazard trips himself up there is an almost automatic booking for the nearest defender as Callum Chambers knows. Shame really as otherwise the referee had a a decent game. Who says cheating isn't alive and well in the English game and some of it appears to be institutionalised.
It's my fault. At half time I commented that Foy was having a good game.

Then came the second half. To me, it felt like someone had been in to see him. (Not that lovable Gus, surely!) In that second half, there was a short period of play in which three or four Sunderland players were kicking lumps out of one or two Saints players (I can't remember who it was). Finally, after a 'nothing' tackle, Foy gave Sunderland a free kick. The writing was on the wall.
My quote on the match thread at 2:17 pm says it all, i.e. "Funny how a lot of decisions seem to be going against us this half or am I imagining it?"
In fact I wasn't imagining it, it was a matter of fact, and the resulting injury to Gaston was partially down to another decision that didn't go our way.
I remember reading that, Osprey, and nodding.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IanqaRC[/bold] wrote: T he referee is partly to blame for Lovren's injury. If he had done his job Ramirez would have received treatment, Brown would have been off and play would have stopped before the second injury. A disgrace as is the fact the FA have not taken retrospective action, Brown had both feet off the ground when he made the challenge, bet none of our defenders would get away with a tackle like that. Shows the double standards applied by the Football authorities. If precious Hazard trips himself up there is an almost automatic booking for the nearest defender as Callum Chambers knows. Shame really as otherwise the referee had a a decent game. Who says cheating isn't alive and well in the English game and some of it appears to be institutionalised.[/p][/quote]It's my fault. At half time I commented that Foy was having a good game. Then came the second half. To me, it felt like someone had been in to see him. (Not that lovable Gus, surely!) In that second half, there was a short period of play in which three or four Sunderland players were kicking lumps out of one or two Saints players (I can't remember who it was). Finally, after a 'nothing' tackle, Foy gave Sunderland a free kick. The writing was on the wall.[/p][/quote]My quote on the match thread at 2:17 pm says it all, i.e. "Funny how a lot of decisions seem to be going against us this half or am I imagining it?" In fact I wasn't imagining it, it was a matter of fact, and the resulting injury to Gaston was partially down to another decision that didn't go our way.[/p][/quote]I remember reading that, Osprey, and nodding. Strasbourg Saint

3:57am Fri 24 Jan 14

Rupert Lowe's Backside says...

milton road wrote:
Yoshida's problem is not enough games he is rusty comes in for the odd game. In fairness for a lot of last season after the first ten games, he and Fonte looked tight. and averaged conceding roughly a goal a game. We do though need another centre half and it would be seen as an act of intent by the owner. Astori would be good, why buy one for the interim when we can buy a good one for three and four years. Whether now or summer we are going to need one, makes sense to get one now. IMO.
Im with you Milton Rd on this one, he's not getting enough game time.

I think Yoshida wasnt that bad in the latter half last season and struck up a good partnership with Fonte. With Wanyama back, maybe these three will crystalise into a formidable partnership.

Confidence is everything, and Fonte got this with Lovren, now he needs to return the favour with Yoshida
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: Yoshida's problem is not enough games he is rusty comes in for the odd game. In fairness for a lot of last season after the first ten games, he and Fonte looked tight. and averaged conceding roughly a goal a game. We do though need another centre half and it would be seen as an act of intent by the owner. Astori would be good, why buy one for the interim when we can buy a good one for three and four years. Whether now or summer we are going to need one, makes sense to get one now. IMO.[/p][/quote]Im with you Milton Rd on this one, he's not getting enough game time. I think Yoshida wasnt that bad in the latter half last season and struck up a good partnership with Fonte. With Wanyama back, maybe these three will crystalise into a formidable partnership. Confidence is everything, and Fonte got this with Lovren, now he needs to return the favour with Yoshida Rupert Lowe's Backside

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