Southampton's players understood to be fully supportive of club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for alleged headbutt on Jose Fonte

Dani Osvaldo

Dani Osvaldo and Jose Fonte celebrate together (Pic: Clive Gee/PA Wire)

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Dani Osvaldo’s teammates are understood to be furious at the club’s record-signing after he allegedly launched a headbutt at José Fonte.

The forward has been handed a two-week suspension by Saints, who accused him of a “breach of conduct”, after he left Fonte with facial injuries following Wednesday’s training ground incident.

The club have not laid any blame on Fonte for the incident and will be taking no action against him.

The centre half is a popular member of the dressing room, and his colleagues are said to be fuming at what happened to him.

They are also understood to be fully supportive of the decision to suspend Osvaldo and pleased that the club, and new interim chief executive Gareth Rogers, have issued a clear statement that such behaviour will not be tolerated.

The Italian international will face a significant battle to regain the trust of his teammates, if he is brought back into the fold. 

Many of his colleagues, including Fonte, had helped him try to settle on the south coast following his transfer to the club in the summer, assisting him in finding a house and a car.

The incident could prompt Saints to offload the striker before the end of the transfer window, either permanently or on loan.

His position will likely become clearer when manager Mauricio Pochettino next faces the media, which is likely to be early next week.

There is said to be interest in Osvaldo from Spanish side Sevilla, while Inter Milan are also reported to be keen on acquiring the 28-year-old’s services, meaning there could be suitors if they wish to part ways quickly.

With just three goals in 13 league appearances this season, Osvaldo certainly has some way to go before Saints will feel he has justified the price they paid for him.

The club parted with an initial £12.9m to bring the forward to St Mary’s from Roma last summer, while that deal could rise to as much as £14.6m.

Osvaldo had been due to return to action on Saturday, having served a three-match ban for violent conduct, after the FA found him guilty and fined him £40,000 following his part in a touchline altercation at Newcastle last month.

However, he will now miss the FA Cup clash with Yeovil, while he is also definitely ruled out of next Tuesday’s visit of Arsenal and the following weekend’s trip to Fulham.

Former Saints defender Francis Benali believes there should be no place for Osvaldo if he is undermining the atmosphere in the squad.

He wrote on Twitter: “So far Dani Osvaldo has scored a goal almost every 300 mins or £5m a goal. If he’s a negative influence in the dressing room he should go!”

Saints’ statement yesterday read: “Southampton Football Club has today suspended striker Dani Osvaldo for two weeks, following an incident at the Club’s Staplewood training ground.

“The Club has taken swift and proper action for what it considers a breach of the conduct expected of its players. Southampton will be making no further comment on this matter.”

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11:22pm Thu 23 Jan 14

wagsta says...

Cheerio
Cheerio wagsta
  • Score: 21

11:47pm Thu 23 Jan 14

AmsterdamSaint says...

Get rid. COYS!
Get rid. COYS! AmsterdamSaint
  • Score: 17

12:00am Fri 24 Jan 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Doesn't sound good for a future here. Maybe if Inter will give us 12m we should part company but I don't think we can let a striker go without bringing another in.
Doesn't sound good for a future here. Maybe if Inter will give us 12m we should part company but I don't think we can let a striker go without bringing another in. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 17

12:05am Fri 24 Jan 14

DisplacedFan says...

As closely knit as the team appears to be, it would seem quite difficult for Danny Boy to get back in with his teammates. On the other hand, Jose has risen even higher as a professional. I hope the fans will sing loud for Jose next time he gets onto the pitch.
We need Danny to change from a petulant primadonna to a fearsome forward. Time to channel that anger to being productive.
As closely knit as the team appears to be, it would seem quite difficult for Danny Boy to get back in with his teammates. On the other hand, Jose has risen even higher as a professional. I hope the fans will sing loud for Jose next time he gets onto the pitch. We need Danny to change from a petulant primadonna to a fearsome forward. Time to channel that anger to being productive. DisplacedFan
  • Score: 26

12:14am Fri 24 Jan 14

andoru says...

With all the injury concerns and negative press of late, it took nerve from the club to make this decision and then make it public. They could have easily let it slide or made an excuse for his absence. Fair play to Pochettino and his team for making an example of him. Nothing should be allowed to threaten the much-lauded team spirit at Southampton.
With all the injury concerns and negative press of late, it took nerve from the club to make this decision and then make it public. They could have easily let it slide or made an excuse for his absence. Fair play to Pochettino and his team for making an example of him. Nothing should be allowed to threaten the much-lauded team spirit at Southampton. andoru
  • Score: 47

12:42am Fri 24 Jan 14

hedge end bob says...

We do need another striker that can score goals, what we do not need is someone getting paid vast sums of money each week for doing very little. If the boy is cauing unrest in the squad then he must go . We need every member of staff all pulling together as one. No single player is bigger or more important than the club. Those in the past who thought they were have not lasted long. Sorry too see a talented player like him not fit in with the club or it's staff, time to call a taxi
We do need another striker that can score goals, what we do not need is someone getting paid vast sums of money each week for doing very little. If the boy is cauing unrest in the squad then he must go . We need every member of staff all pulling together as one. No single player is bigger or more important than the club. Those in the past who thought they were have not lasted long. Sorry too see a talented player like him not fit in with the club or it's staff, time to call a taxi hedge end bob
  • Score: 37

12:48am Fri 24 Jan 14

North Wales Saint says...

This guy looked like trouble from the word go. Was it worth taking a chance on him with his track record? Sadly the answer now seems to be no, as recent events have shown. His performance on the pitch to date has not convinced many people that he has been value for money either. Now it looks as if he is doing his best to upset our much valued team spirit and togetherness. Jose is highly regarded by Saints fans for his contribution over the past few seasons and this latest bout of idiocy won't go down well with the vast majority.
This guy looked like trouble from the word go. Was it worth taking a chance on him with his track record? Sadly the answer now seems to be no, as recent events have shown. His performance on the pitch to date has not convinced many people that he has been value for money either. Now it looks as if he is doing his best to upset our much valued team spirit and togetherness. Jose is highly regarded by Saints fans for his contribution over the past few seasons and this latest bout of idiocy won't go down well with the vast majority. North Wales Saint
  • Score: 15

12:50am Fri 24 Jan 14

sasmike says...

get rid of her
get rid of her sasmike
  • Score: 13

12:56am Fri 24 Jan 14

jasons odd says...

give him a chance to apologise and make amends . if he apologises he deserves a 2nd chance
give him a chance to apologise and make amends . if he apologises he deserves a 2nd chance jasons odd
  • Score: -9

2:56am Fri 24 Jan 14

florida saint says...

taxi ready dani, that's twice in a month that you have been a t@sser. now go ,you do not deserve to wear the colours of our proud football club. u t s
taxi ready dani, that's twice in a month that you have been a t@sser. now go ,you do not deserve to wear the colours of our proud football club. u t s florida saint
  • Score: 22

4:01am Fri 24 Jan 14

Sammy2sheds says...

I love a knee jerk reaction or a head jerk reaction.
I like him.jose head will recover and they can kiss
And make up.every team needs a mental,remember
Mark Dennis?
I love a knee jerk reaction or a head jerk reaction. I like him.jose head will recover and they can kiss And make up.every team needs a mental,remember Mark Dennis? Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -19

4:05am Fri 24 Jan 14

SiamSaint says...

Oh Dani boy, the Italians and the Spanish are calling
From Inter to Seville, and various dodgy sides
Your bottle's gone, and all the fans are sick of you
'Tis you, 'tis you must go, washed out on Solent tides.

But come ye back when Saints are in the Champion’s league
St Mary’s will be striped in red and white
Jose Font Oh how he’dl love to mark you
Oh Dani boy, oh Dani boy, you’ve really been quite sh...
Oh Dani boy, the Italians and the Spanish are calling From Inter to Seville, and various dodgy sides Your bottle's gone, and all the fans are sick of you 'Tis you, 'tis you must go, washed out on Solent tides. But come ye back when Saints are in the Champion’s league St Mary’s will be striped in red and white Jose Font Oh how he’dl love to mark you Oh Dani boy, oh Dani boy, you’ve really been quite sh... SiamSaint
  • Score: 11

7:50am Fri 24 Jan 14

SFC4EVA says...

I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical!
I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical! SFC4EVA
  • Score: 21

7:59am Fri 24 Jan 14

Rising_Son says...

sasmike wrote:
get rid of her
You seem to have the potentially serious problem of not being able to tell the difference between males and females. I hope it doesn't get you into trouble.
[quote][p][bold]sasmike[/bold] wrote: get rid of her[/p][/quote]You seem to have the potentially serious problem of not being able to tell the difference between males and females. I hope it doesn't get you into trouble. Rising_Son
  • Score: 4

8:11am Fri 24 Jan 14

ghk230473 says...

No coming back imo. He's had more flare ups than goals! Lucky to stay on the pitch when he made his debut as a sub.
Sometimes you have to cut your losses.
No coming back imo. He's had more flare ups than goals! Lucky to stay on the pitch when he made his debut as a sub. Sometimes you have to cut your losses. ghk230473
  • Score: 5

8:35am Fri 24 Jan 14

Datarater says...

Shows a definite weakness in Cortese, bringing in such a known dysfunctional.
Shows a definite weakness in Cortese, bringing in such a known dysfunctional. Datarater
  • Score: -10

8:45am Fri 24 Jan 14

brighton saint says...

SFC4EVA wrote:
I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical!
Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR
[quote][p][bold]SFC4EVA[/bold] wrote: I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical![/p][/quote]Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR brighton saint
  • Score: 8

9:40am Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Good for them, but to forgive is devine.
Good for them, but to forgive is devine. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

9:46am Fri 24 Jan 14

Clemster says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Good for them, but to forgive is devine.
Is that Shaun Devine? Or Divine?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Good for them, but to forgive is devine.[/p][/quote]Is that Shaun Devine? Or Divine? Clemster
  • Score: 3

9:50am Fri 24 Jan 14

Folkestone Saint says...

He's been found out, the prem league and it's pace is to high for him, Italian football is kick kick dive whistle, then, kick kick dive whistle again, they spend more time at rest than playing football, so it is my opinion that he wants out and as he has been missing for so long he wont be missed, maybe he would find the Portuguese league to his liking.
He's been found out, the prem league and it's pace is to high for him, Italian football is kick kick dive whistle, then, kick kick dive whistle again, they spend more time at rest than playing football, so it is my opinion that he wants out and as he has been missing for so long he wont be missed, maybe he would find the Portuguese league to his liking. Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 5

10:07am Fri 24 Jan 14

right back in the bar says...

Words fail me - I've been on these pages before saying he needs to play more before being written off and the Newcastle fracas was fomented by Pardew - who is really just a thug in a suit. But after this I never want to see him in our colours again. How did we end up signing him with all the previous he had? We must hope under new governance that idiots like him will only ever be playing for opponents in future.
Words fail me - I've been on these pages before saying he needs to play more before being written off and the Newcastle fracas was fomented by Pardew - who is really just a thug in a suit. But after this I never want to see him in our colours again. How did we end up signing him with all the previous he had? We must hope under new governance that idiots like him will only ever be playing for opponents in future. right back in the bar
  • Score: -2

10:45am Fri 24 Jan 14

Sadoldgitte says...

Sell him. Dreadful signing.
Sell him. Dreadful signing. Sadoldgitte
  • Score: -1

10:48am Fri 24 Jan 14

right back in the bar says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
I love a knee jerk reaction or a head jerk reaction.
I like him.jose head will recover and they can kiss
And make up.every team needs a mental,remember
Mark Dennis?
I remember Mark Dennis - he is one of my all time favourite Saints players. But he saved it for opponents and had his moments in town (mainly on account of a turbulent personal life and some dodgy associations). I might be wrong but don't recall anything like this. Tempting to view him as one and the same (we would all love another Mark Dennis) but no, Osvaldo is not like him at all.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: I love a knee jerk reaction or a head jerk reaction. I like him.jose head will recover and they can kiss And make up.every team needs a mental,remember Mark Dennis?[/p][/quote]I remember Mark Dennis - he is one of my all time favourite Saints players. But he saved it for opponents and had his moments in town (mainly on account of a turbulent personal life and some dodgy associations). I might be wrong but don't recall anything like this. Tempting to view him as one and the same (we would all love another Mark Dennis) but no, Osvaldo is not like him at all. right back in the bar
  • Score: 7

10:50am Fri 24 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

brighton saint wrote:
SFC4EVA wrote:
I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical!
Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR
It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you.

It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article:
1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte.
2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.'

In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani.

My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv).

But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.
[quote][p][bold]brighton saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC4EVA[/bold] wrote: I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical![/p][/quote]Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR[/p][/quote]It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you. It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article: 1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte. 2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.' In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani. My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv). But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 11

10:50am Fri 24 Jan 14

justaSaintsfan says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
As closely knit as the team appears to be, it would seem quite difficult for Danny Boy to get back in with his teammates. On the other hand, Jose has risen even higher as a professional. I hope the fans will sing loud for Jose next time he gets onto the pitch.
We need Danny to change from a petulant primadonna to a fearsome forward. Time to channel that anger to being productive.
Well said, DisplacedFan! Yes, we do need Dani to change, perhaps by getting him some professional help on how to handle his own temper. With such help, he could still turn out to be an asset to Saints. If the other players see that Dani himself is trying to beat his obvious problem by having professional help, it might not be too late to have him back in the team. Much depends on Dani being a big enough person to apologise and humble enough to agree to having professional help.
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: As closely knit as the team appears to be, it would seem quite difficult for Danny Boy to get back in with his teammates. On the other hand, Jose has risen even higher as a professional. I hope the fans will sing loud for Jose next time he gets onto the pitch. We need Danny to change from a petulant primadonna to a fearsome forward. Time to channel that anger to being productive.[/p][/quote]Well said, DisplacedFan! Yes, we do need Dani to change, perhaps by getting him some professional help on how to handle his own temper. With such help, he could still turn out to be an asset to Saints. If the other players see that Dani himself is trying to beat his obvious problem by having professional help, it might not be too late to have him back in the team. Much depends on Dani being a big enough person to apologise and humble enough to agree to having professional help. justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 4

11:02am Fri 24 Jan 14

Jesus_02 says...

Business I would have like to have seen in the transfer window would have been.

Shaw to Chelsea
Osvaldo - Out to either suitors
= 40m +

Ba and Bertrum in from Chelsea ~ 20m
+ another young LB
+ CB @ ~10m
+ Reserve GK

....hang on this isn't Championship Manager.. oh well never mind..I dont think anyone will be coming or going till the summer
Business I would have like to have seen in the transfer window would have been. Shaw to Chelsea Osvaldo - Out to either suitors = 40m + Ba and Bertrum in from Chelsea ~ 20m + another young LB + CB @ ~10m + Reserve GK ....hang on this isn't Championship Manager.. oh well never mind..I dont think anyone will be coming or going till the summer Jesus_02
  • Score: -3

11:10am Fri 24 Jan 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
Business I would have like to have seen in the transfer window would have been.

Shaw to Chelsea
Osvaldo - Out to either suitors
= 40m +

Ba and Bertrum in from Chelsea ~ 20m
+ another young LB
+ CB @ ~10m
+ Reserve GK

....hang on this isn't Championship Manager.. oh well never mind..I dont think anyone will be coming or going till the summer
protip:

If we want to get anywhere we need to ADD TO the talent already at the club

NOT SELL IT OFF AT THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY

why oh why do people not get this?
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: Business I would have like to have seen in the transfer window would have been. Shaw to Chelsea Osvaldo - Out to either suitors = 40m + Ba and Bertrum in from Chelsea ~ 20m + another young LB + CB @ ~10m + Reserve GK ....hang on this isn't Championship Manager.. oh well never mind..I dont think anyone will be coming or going till the summer[/p][/quote]protip: If we want to get anywhere we need to ADD TO the talent already at the club NOT SELL IT OFF AT THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY why oh why do people not get this? Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: 6

11:41am Fri 24 Jan 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
brighton saint wrote:
SFC4EVA wrote:
I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical!
Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR
It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you.

It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article:
1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte.
2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.'

In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani.

My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv).

But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.
again I`m with both of you on this, he may come back to the fold and be welcomed by all the players, once things have settled down and conversations have taken place. he may then become a great player for us and be everything people wanted him o be.
I think some people are forgetting that whilst £15mill, or thereabouts, is a lot of money for us, it isn't when its up against the players he is being compared to. the strikers he is being compared to are in the £25-50mill+ price range. he is however good enough for the Italian national squad but not saints, well according to some. try comparing him to van wolfswinkle at Norwich, 1 goal all season for around £9mill!
what he did was wrong, very wrong, but so was AB with the bottle. as said above, the `mob` wanted AB gone and to never wear the shirt again. I bet if someone wanted to look into it they would see posts supporting AB from the same people who slated him in the past.
if the team, the club and MP see fit to welcome him back then so will I. if they sell him then fair enough.
I do wish that the posters who only ever turn up with such forceful opinions on certain players or situations would bother to turn up when we win games week in week out.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC4EVA[/bold] wrote: I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical![/p][/quote]Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR[/p][/quote]It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you. It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article: 1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte. 2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.' In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani. My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv). But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.[/p][/quote]again I`m with both of you on this, he may come back to the fold and be welcomed by all the players, once things have settled down and conversations have taken place. he may then become a great player for us and be everything people wanted him o be. I think some people are forgetting that whilst £15mill, or thereabouts, is a lot of money for us, it isn't when its up against the players he is being compared to. the strikers he is being compared to are in the £25-50mill+ price range. he is however good enough for the Italian national squad but not saints, well according to some. try comparing him to van wolfswinkle at Norwich, 1 goal all season for around £9mill! what he did was wrong, very wrong, but so was AB with the bottle. as said above, the `mob` wanted AB gone and to never wear the shirt again. I bet if someone wanted to look into it they would see posts supporting AB from the same people who slated him in the past. if the team, the club and MP see fit to welcome him back then so will I. if they sell him then fair enough. I do wish that the posters who only ever turn up with such forceful opinions on certain players or situations would bother to turn up when we win games week in week out. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

12:13pm Fri 24 Jan 14

right back in the bar says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
brighton saint wrote:
SFC4EVA wrote:
I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical!
Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR
It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you.

It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article:
1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte.
2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.'

In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani.

My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv).

But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.
Usual pompous nonsense you see on here and so easy to say from the comfort of wherever you are sitting. You obviously have never played club football or been involved in any remote capacity. You can bet for sure that players will be rightly **** off, livid, and angry; and being on the receiving end, not as ready as you appear to be to forgive and forget. Imagine your training hard being scrutinised for team selection, making tackles on team mates, just like you would in a match, only for a team mate to take exception to a hard tackle and get up and head butt you in the face. Get real FFS. And do you think the management want players holding back in training, staying clear of Osvaldo in case he gets up and lays into someone. Its a massive negative influence.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC4EVA[/bold] wrote: I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical![/p][/quote]Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR[/p][/quote]It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you. It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article: 1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte. 2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.' In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani. My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv). But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.[/p][/quote]Usual pompous nonsense you see on here and so easy to say from the comfort of wherever you are sitting. You obviously have never played club football or been involved in any remote capacity. You can bet for sure that players will be rightly **** off, livid, and angry; and being on the receiving end, not as ready as you appear to be to forgive and forget. Imagine your training hard being scrutinised for team selection, making tackles on team mates, just like you would in a match, only for a team mate to take exception to a hard tackle and get up and head butt you in the face. Get real FFS. And do you think the management want players holding back in training, staying clear of Osvaldo in case he gets up and lays into someone. Its a massive negative influence. right back in the bar
  • Score: -1

12:33pm Fri 24 Jan 14

el caballo santos101 says...

right back in the bar wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
brighton saint wrote:
SFC4EVA wrote:
I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical!
Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR
It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you.

It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article:
1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte.
2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.'

In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani.

My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv).

But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.
Usual pompous nonsense you see on here and so easy to say from the comfort of wherever you are sitting. You obviously have never played club football or been involved in any remote capacity. You can bet for sure that players will be rightly **** off, livid, and angry; and being on the receiving end, not as ready as you appear to be to forgive and forget. Imagine your training hard being scrutinised for team selection, making tackles on team mates, just like you would in a match, only for a team mate to take exception to a hard tackle and get up and head butt you in the face. Get real FFS. And do you think the management want players holding back in training, staying clear of Osvaldo in case he gets up and lays into someone. Its a massive negative influence.
usual, `you don't know what its like` response from a poster who knows no more than most. I have played football and we had a fight between our own players at least once a year/season, not always the same players either. but the team step in and sort it out between themselves. it usually brought the team together, in a strange way, and whoever was involved just put it behind them and moved on. having said that we did used to enjoy a punch up with the oppos.
you seem to be looking at this incident like its the only one ever to have happened, it happens all the time it just doesn't always get reported.
you don't know what happened on the training ground, you don't even know 100% that he headbutted him, though he probably did, you don't even know how bad Jose was injured or if he has accepted any apology from Dani. try not to be so holier than thou in your posts, calling others pompous and questioning their football knowledge or ability, makes you look stupid and as if your opinion is the only one that counts. read the post again and you will see IF a lot and leave it up to the club and players. what gives you the right to say what the club should do? they know the facts you don't!
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC4EVA[/bold] wrote: I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical![/p][/quote]Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR[/p][/quote]It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you. It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article: 1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte. 2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.' In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani. My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv). But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.[/p][/quote]Usual pompous nonsense you see on here and so easy to say from the comfort of wherever you are sitting. You obviously have never played club football or been involved in any remote capacity. You can bet for sure that players will be rightly **** off, livid, and angry; and being on the receiving end, not as ready as you appear to be to forgive and forget. Imagine your training hard being scrutinised for team selection, making tackles on team mates, just like you would in a match, only for a team mate to take exception to a hard tackle and get up and head butt you in the face. Get real FFS. And do you think the management want players holding back in training, staying clear of Osvaldo in case he gets up and lays into someone. Its a massive negative influence.[/p][/quote]usual, `you don't know what its like` response from a poster who knows no more than most. I have played football and we had a fight between our own players at least once a year/season, not always the same players either. but the team step in and sort it out between themselves. it usually brought the team together, in a strange way, and whoever was involved just put it behind them and moved on. having said that we did used to enjoy a punch up with the oppos. you seem to be looking at this incident like its the only one ever to have happened, it happens all the time it just doesn't always get reported. you don't know what happened on the training ground, you don't even know 100% that he headbutted him, though he probably did, you don't even know how bad Jose was injured or if he has accepted any apology from Dani. try not to be so holier than thou in your posts, calling others pompous and questioning their football knowledge or ability, makes you look stupid and as if your opinion is the only one that counts. read the post again and you will see IF a lot and leave it up to the club and players. what gives you the right to say what the club should do? they know the facts you don't! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 5

1:02pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Stnana says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
brighton saint wrote:
SFC4EVA wrote:
I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical!
Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR
It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you.

It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article:
1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte.
2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.'

In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani.

My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv).

But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.
Usual pompous nonsense you see on here and so easy to say from the comfort of wherever you are sitting. You obviously have never played club football or been involved in any remote capacity. You can bet for sure that players will be rightly **** off, livid, and angry; and being on the receiving end, not as ready as you appear to be to forgive and forget. Imagine your training hard being scrutinised for team selection, making tackles on team mates, just like you would in a match, only for a team mate to take exception to a hard tackle and get up and head butt you in the face. Get real FFS. And do you think the management want players holding back in training, staying clear of Osvaldo in case he gets up and lays into someone. Its a massive negative influence.
usual, `you don't know what its like` response from a poster who knows no more than most. I have played football and we had a fight between our own players at least once a year/season, not always the same players either. but the team step in and sort it out between themselves. it usually brought the team together, in a strange way, and whoever was involved just put it behind them and moved on. having said that we did used to enjoy a punch up with the oppos.
you seem to be looking at this incident like its the only one ever to have happened, it happens all the time it just doesn't always get reported.
you don't know what happened on the training ground, you don't even know 100% that he headbutted him, though he probably did, you don't even know how bad Jose was injured or if he has accepted any apology from Dani. try not to be so holier than thou in your posts, calling others pompous and questioning their football knowledge or ability, makes you look stupid and as if your opinion is the only one that counts. read the post again and you will see IF a lot and leave it up to the club and players. what gives you the right to say what the club should do? they know the facts you don't!
Adam Blackmore , on Twitter, says Jose has a broken nose and split eye. Also elsewhere on Twitter , he has a black eye. I agree with others on here who say we don't need or want a player who cannot control his temper and I certainly would not want him training with Academy players. Having said that it's not our decision to make and if the rest of the team ,especially Jose, accept his apology and want him back then we should support them and him.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC4EVA[/bold] wrote: I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical![/p][/quote]Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR[/p][/quote]It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you. It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article: 1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte. 2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.' In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani. My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv). But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.[/p][/quote]Usual pompous nonsense you see on here and so easy to say from the comfort of wherever you are sitting. You obviously have never played club football or been involved in any remote capacity. You can bet for sure that players will be rightly **** off, livid, and angry; and being on the receiving end, not as ready as you appear to be to forgive and forget. Imagine your training hard being scrutinised for team selection, making tackles on team mates, just like you would in a match, only for a team mate to take exception to a hard tackle and get up and head butt you in the face. Get real FFS. And do you think the management want players holding back in training, staying clear of Osvaldo in case he gets up and lays into someone. Its a massive negative influence.[/p][/quote]usual, `you don't know what its like` response from a poster who knows no more than most. I have played football and we had a fight between our own players at least once a year/season, not always the same players either. but the team step in and sort it out between themselves. it usually brought the team together, in a strange way, and whoever was involved just put it behind them and moved on. having said that we did used to enjoy a punch up with the oppos. you seem to be looking at this incident like its the only one ever to have happened, it happens all the time it just doesn't always get reported. you don't know what happened on the training ground, you don't even know 100% that he headbutted him, though he probably did, you don't even know how bad Jose was injured or if he has accepted any apology from Dani. try not to be so holier than thou in your posts, calling others pompous and questioning their football knowledge or ability, makes you look stupid and as if your opinion is the only one that counts. read the post again and you will see IF a lot and leave it up to the club and players. what gives you the right to say what the club should do? they know the facts you don't![/p][/quote]Adam Blackmore , on Twitter, says Jose has a broken nose and split eye. Also elsewhere on Twitter , he has a black eye. I agree with others on here who say we don't need or want a player who cannot control his temper and I certainly would not want him training with Academy players. Having said that it's not our decision to make and if the rest of the team ,especially Jose, accept his apology and want him back then we should support them and him. Stnana
  • Score: 3

1:16pm Fri 24 Jan 14

right back in the bar says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
brighton saint wrote:
SFC4EVA wrote:
I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical!
Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR
It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you.

It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article:
1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte.
2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.'

In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani.

My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv).

But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.
Usual pompous nonsense you see on here and so easy to say from the comfort of wherever you are sitting. You obviously have never played club football or been involved in any remote capacity. You can bet for sure that players will be rightly **** off, livid, and angry; and being on the receiving end, not as ready as you appear to be to forgive and forget. Imagine your training hard being scrutinised for team selection, making tackles on team mates, just like you would in a match, only for a team mate to take exception to a hard tackle and get up and head butt you in the face. Get real FFS. And do you think the management want players holding back in training, staying clear of Osvaldo in case he gets up and lays into someone. Its a massive negative influence.
usual, `you don't know what its like` response from a poster who knows no more than most. I have played football and we had a fight between our own players at least once a year/season, not always the same players either. but the team step in and sort it out between themselves. it usually brought the team together, in a strange way, and whoever was involved just put it behind them and moved on. having said that we did used to enjoy a punch up with the oppos.
you seem to be looking at this incident like its the only one ever to have happened, it happens all the time it just doesn't always get reported.
you don't know what happened on the training ground, you don't even know 100% that he headbutted him, though he probably did, you don't even know how bad Jose was injured or if he has accepted any apology from Dani. try not to be so holier than thou in your posts, calling others pompous and questioning their football knowledge or ability, makes you look stupid and as if your opinion is the only one that counts. read the post again and you will see IF a lot and leave it up to the club and players. what gives you the right to say what the club should do? they know the facts you don't!
Really? I grew out of it and so do most pros. Why do you think he was suspended? It wasn't for handbags. Totally agree its probably not the first time - which is probably why the club has gone public - they've might have had enough - all offers considered. But if my posts offend mate don't worry its just one big clique on here and everyone else has to fall into line so I probably wont bother in future.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC4EVA[/bold] wrote: I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical![/p][/quote]Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR[/p][/quote]It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you. It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article: 1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte. 2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.' In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani. My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv). But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.[/p][/quote]Usual pompous nonsense you see on here and so easy to say from the comfort of wherever you are sitting. You obviously have never played club football or been involved in any remote capacity. You can bet for sure that players will be rightly **** off, livid, and angry; and being on the receiving end, not as ready as you appear to be to forgive and forget. Imagine your training hard being scrutinised for team selection, making tackles on team mates, just like you would in a match, only for a team mate to take exception to a hard tackle and get up and head butt you in the face. Get real FFS. And do you think the management want players holding back in training, staying clear of Osvaldo in case he gets up and lays into someone. Its a massive negative influence.[/p][/quote]usual, `you don't know what its like` response from a poster who knows no more than most. I have played football and we had a fight between our own players at least once a year/season, not always the same players either. but the team step in and sort it out between themselves. it usually brought the team together, in a strange way, and whoever was involved just put it behind them and moved on. having said that we did used to enjoy a punch up with the oppos. you seem to be looking at this incident like its the only one ever to have happened, it happens all the time it just doesn't always get reported. you don't know what happened on the training ground, you don't even know 100% that he headbutted him, though he probably did, you don't even know how bad Jose was injured or if he has accepted any apology from Dani. try not to be so holier than thou in your posts, calling others pompous and questioning their football knowledge or ability, makes you look stupid and as if your opinion is the only one that counts. read the post again and you will see IF a lot and leave it up to the club and players. what gives you the right to say what the club should do? they know the facts you don't![/p][/quote]Really? I grew out of it and so do most pros. Why do you think he was suspended? It wasn't for handbags. Totally agree its probably not the first time - which is probably why the club has gone public - they've might have had enough - all offers considered. But if my posts offend mate don't worry its just one big clique on here and everyone else has to fall into line so I probably wont bother in future. right back in the bar
  • Score: -1

1:21pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Rising_Son says...

right back in the bar wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
brighton saint wrote:
SFC4EVA wrote:
I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical!
Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR
It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you.

It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article:
1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte.
2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.'

In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani.

My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv).

But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.
Usual pompous nonsense you see on here and so easy to say from the comfort of wherever you are sitting. You obviously have never played club football or been involved in any remote capacity. You can bet for sure that players will be rightly **** off, livid, and angry; and being on the receiving end, not as ready as you appear to be to forgive and forget. Imagine your training hard being scrutinised for team selection, making tackles on team mates, just like you would in a match, only for a team mate to take exception to a hard tackle and get up and head butt you in the face. Get real FFS. And do you think the management want players holding back in training, staying clear of Osvaldo in case he gets up and lays into someone. Its a massive negative influence.
usual, `you don't know what its like` response from a poster who knows no more than most. I have played football and we had a fight between our own players at least once a year/season, not always the same players either. but the team step in and sort it out between themselves. it usually brought the team together, in a strange way, and whoever was involved just put it behind them and moved on. having said that we did used to enjoy a punch up with the oppos.
you seem to be looking at this incident like its the only one ever to have happened, it happens all the time it just doesn't always get reported.
you don't know what happened on the training ground, you don't even know 100% that he headbutted him, though he probably did, you don't even know how bad Jose was injured or if he has accepted any apology from Dani. try not to be so holier than thou in your posts, calling others pompous and questioning their football knowledge or ability, makes you look stupid and as if your opinion is the only one that counts. read the post again and you will see IF a lot and leave it up to the club and players. what gives you the right to say what the club should do? they know the facts you don't!
Really? I grew out of it and so do most pros. Why do you think he was suspended? It wasn't for handbags. Totally agree its probably not the first time - which is probably why the club has gone public - they've might have had enough - all offers considered. But if my posts offend mate don't worry its just one big clique on here and everyone else has to fall into line so I probably wont bother in future.
Another one who demands his right disagree but does not recognise the rights of others to disagree with him.
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC4EVA[/bold] wrote: I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical![/p][/quote]Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR[/p][/quote]It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you. It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article: 1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte. 2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.' In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani. My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv). But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.[/p][/quote]Usual pompous nonsense you see on here and so easy to say from the comfort of wherever you are sitting. You obviously have never played club football or been involved in any remote capacity. You can bet for sure that players will be rightly **** off, livid, and angry; and being on the receiving end, not as ready as you appear to be to forgive and forget. Imagine your training hard being scrutinised for team selection, making tackles on team mates, just like you would in a match, only for a team mate to take exception to a hard tackle and get up and head butt you in the face. Get real FFS. And do you think the management want players holding back in training, staying clear of Osvaldo in case he gets up and lays into someone. Its a massive negative influence.[/p][/quote]usual, `you don't know what its like` response from a poster who knows no more than most. I have played football and we had a fight between our own players at least once a year/season, not always the same players either. but the team step in and sort it out between themselves. it usually brought the team together, in a strange way, and whoever was involved just put it behind them and moved on. having said that we did used to enjoy a punch up with the oppos. you seem to be looking at this incident like its the only one ever to have happened, it happens all the time it just doesn't always get reported. you don't know what happened on the training ground, you don't even know 100% that he headbutted him, though he probably did, you don't even know how bad Jose was injured or if he has accepted any apology from Dani. try not to be so holier than thou in your posts, calling others pompous and questioning their football knowledge or ability, makes you look stupid and as if your opinion is the only one that counts. read the post again and you will see IF a lot and leave it up to the club and players. what gives you the right to say what the club should do? they know the facts you don't![/p][/quote]Really? I grew out of it and so do most pros. Why do you think he was suspended? It wasn't for handbags. Totally agree its probably not the first time - which is probably why the club has gone public - they've might have had enough - all offers considered. But if my posts offend mate don't worry its just one big clique on here and everyone else has to fall into line so I probably wont bother in future.[/p][/quote]Another one who demands his right disagree but does not recognise the rights of others to disagree with him. Rising_Son
  • Score: 3

1:34pm Fri 24 Jan 14

right back in the bar says...

Rising_Son wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
brighton saint wrote:
SFC4EVA wrote:
I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical!
Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR
It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you.

It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article:
1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte.
2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.'

In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani.

My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv).

But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.
Usual pompous nonsense you see on here and so easy to say from the comfort of wherever you are sitting. You obviously have never played club football or been involved in any remote capacity. You can bet for sure that players will be rightly **** off, livid, and angry; and being on the receiving end, not as ready as you appear to be to forgive and forget. Imagine your training hard being scrutinised for team selection, making tackles on team mates, just like you would in a match, only for a team mate to take exception to a hard tackle and get up and head butt you in the face. Get real FFS. And do you think the management want players holding back in training, staying clear of Osvaldo in case he gets up and lays into someone. Its a massive negative influence.
usual, `you don't know what its like` response from a poster who knows no more than most. I have played football and we had a fight between our own players at least once a year/season, not always the same players either. but the team step in and sort it out between themselves. it usually brought the team together, in a strange way, and whoever was involved just put it behind them and moved on. having said that we did used to enjoy a punch up with the oppos.
you seem to be looking at this incident like its the only one ever to have happened, it happens all the time it just doesn't always get reported.
you don't know what happened on the training ground, you don't even know 100% that he headbutted him, though he probably did, you don't even know how bad Jose was injured or if he has accepted any apology from Dani. try not to be so holier than thou in your posts, calling others pompous and questioning their football knowledge or ability, makes you look stupid and as if your opinion is the only one that counts. read the post again and you will see IF a lot and leave it up to the club and players. what gives you the right to say what the club should do? they know the facts you don't!
Really? I grew out of it and so do most pros. Why do you think he was suspended? It wasn't for handbags. Totally agree its probably not the first time - which is probably why the club has gone public - they've might have had enough - all offers considered. But if my posts offend mate don't worry its just one big clique on here and everyone else has to fall into line so I probably wont bother in future.
Another one who demands his right disagree but does not recognise the rights of others to disagree with him.
here we go
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC4EVA[/bold] wrote: I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical![/p][/quote]Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR[/p][/quote]It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you. It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article: 1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte. 2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.' In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani. My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv). But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.[/p][/quote]Usual pompous nonsense you see on here and so easy to say from the comfort of wherever you are sitting. You obviously have never played club football or been involved in any remote capacity. You can bet for sure that players will be rightly **** off, livid, and angry; and being on the receiving end, not as ready as you appear to be to forgive and forget. Imagine your training hard being scrutinised for team selection, making tackles on team mates, just like you would in a match, only for a team mate to take exception to a hard tackle and get up and head butt you in the face. Get real FFS. And do you think the management want players holding back in training, staying clear of Osvaldo in case he gets up and lays into someone. Its a massive negative influence.[/p][/quote]usual, `you don't know what its like` response from a poster who knows no more than most. I have played football and we had a fight between our own players at least once a year/season, not always the same players either. but the team step in and sort it out between themselves. it usually brought the team together, in a strange way, and whoever was involved just put it behind them and moved on. having said that we did used to enjoy a punch up with the oppos. you seem to be looking at this incident like its the only one ever to have happened, it happens all the time it just doesn't always get reported. you don't know what happened on the training ground, you don't even know 100% that he headbutted him, though he probably did, you don't even know how bad Jose was injured or if he has accepted any apology from Dani. try not to be so holier than thou in your posts, calling others pompous and questioning their football knowledge or ability, makes you look stupid and as if your opinion is the only one that counts. read the post again and you will see IF a lot and leave it up to the club and players. what gives you the right to say what the club should do? they know the facts you don't![/p][/quote]Really? I grew out of it and so do most pros. Why do you think he was suspended? It wasn't for handbags. Totally agree its probably not the first time - which is probably why the club has gone public - they've might have had enough - all offers considered. But if my posts offend mate don't worry its just one big clique on here and everyone else has to fall into line so I probably wont bother in future.[/p][/quote]Another one who demands his right disagree but does not recognise the rights of others to disagree with him.[/p][/quote]here we go right back in the bar
  • Score: -4

1:38pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Poole Tom says...

Us supporters are of course entitled to our opinions but at the end of the day only those present on the training field actually know what happened and why it happened. I am therefore content to let those running the club decide whether Dani should stay or go. Either way I will back their decision because as a supporter that`s what I do.
Us supporters are of course entitled to our opinions but at the end of the day only those present on the training field actually know what happened and why it happened. I am therefore content to let those running the club decide whether Dani should stay or go. Either way I will back their decision because as a supporter that`s what I do. Poole Tom
  • Score: 2

1:45pm Fri 24 Jan 14

st1halo says...

right back in the bar wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
brighton saint wrote:
SFC4EVA wrote:
I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical!
Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR
It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you.

It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article:
1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte.
2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.'

In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani.

My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv).

But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.
Usual pompous nonsense you see on here and so easy to say from the comfort of wherever you are sitting. You obviously have never played club football or been involved in any remote capacity. You can bet for sure that players will be rightly **** off, livid, and angry; and being on the receiving end, not as ready as you appear to be to forgive and forget. Imagine your training hard being scrutinised for team selection, making tackles on team mates, just like you would in a match, only for a team mate to take exception to a hard tackle and get up and head butt you in the face. Get real FFS. And do you think the management want players holding back in training, staying clear of Osvaldo in case he gets up and lays into someone. Its a massive negative influence.
usual, `you don't know what its like` response from a poster who knows no more than most. I have played football and we had a fight between our own players at least once a year/season, not always the same players either. but the team step in and sort it out between themselves. it usually brought the team together, in a strange way, and whoever was involved just put it behind them and moved on. having said that we did used to enjoy a punch up with the oppos.
you seem to be looking at this incident like its the only one ever to have happened, it happens all the time it just doesn't always get reported.
you don't know what happened on the training ground, you don't even know 100% that he headbutted him, though he probably did, you don't even know how bad Jose was injured or if he has accepted any apology from Dani. try not to be so holier than thou in your posts, calling others pompous and questioning their football knowledge or ability, makes you look stupid and as if your opinion is the only one that counts. read the post again and you will see IF a lot and leave it up to the club and players. what gives you the right to say what the club should do? they know the facts you don't!
Really? I grew out of it and so do most pros. Why do you think he was suspended? It wasn't for handbags. Totally agree its probably not the first time - which is probably why the club has gone public - they've might have had enough - all offers considered. But if my posts offend mate don't worry its just one big clique on here and everyone else has to fall into line so I probably wont bother in future.
It's a tough one, no doubt.

Personally, a part of me wants him to apologise, see the error of his ways and start living up to the price tag and his ability, to channel that passion into scoring goals and kissing the badge and repaying both the financial and emotional investment from the club and fans respectively.
The other part of me is beginning to think he spent too much time on his mum's tatties and just won't grow up, particularly after a £40k fine and just completing an FA ban and maybe it would be better for all concerned if he fckt off!

Glad I don't have to decide on his future!

STID
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC4EVA[/bold] wrote: I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical![/p][/quote]Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR[/p][/quote]It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you. It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article: 1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte. 2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.' In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani. My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv). But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.[/p][/quote]Usual pompous nonsense you see on here and so easy to say from the comfort of wherever you are sitting. You obviously have never played club football or been involved in any remote capacity. You can bet for sure that players will be rightly **** off, livid, and angry; and being on the receiving end, not as ready as you appear to be to forgive and forget. Imagine your training hard being scrutinised for team selection, making tackles on team mates, just like you would in a match, only for a team mate to take exception to a hard tackle and get up and head butt you in the face. Get real FFS. And do you think the management want players holding back in training, staying clear of Osvaldo in case he gets up and lays into someone. Its a massive negative influence.[/p][/quote]usual, `you don't know what its like` response from a poster who knows no more than most. I have played football and we had a fight between our own players at least once a year/season, not always the same players either. but the team step in and sort it out between themselves. it usually brought the team together, in a strange way, and whoever was involved just put it behind them and moved on. having said that we did used to enjoy a punch up with the oppos. you seem to be looking at this incident like its the only one ever to have happened, it happens all the time it just doesn't always get reported. you don't know what happened on the training ground, you don't even know 100% that he headbutted him, though he probably did, you don't even know how bad Jose was injured or if he has accepted any apology from Dani. try not to be so holier than thou in your posts, calling others pompous and questioning their football knowledge or ability, makes you look stupid and as if your opinion is the only one that counts. read the post again and you will see IF a lot and leave it up to the club and players. what gives you the right to say what the club should do? they know the facts you don't![/p][/quote]Really? I grew out of it and so do most pros. Why do you think he was suspended? It wasn't for handbags. Totally agree its probably not the first time - which is probably why the club has gone public - they've might have had enough - all offers considered. But if my posts offend mate don't worry its just one big clique on here and everyone else has to fall into line so I probably wont bother in future.[/p][/quote]It's a tough one, no doubt. Personally, a part of me wants him to apologise, see the error of his ways and start living up to the price tag and his ability, to channel that passion into scoring goals and kissing the badge and repaying both the financial and emotional investment from the club and fans respectively. The other part of me is beginning to think he spent too much time on his mum's tatties and just won't grow up, particularly after a £40k fine and just completing an FA ban and maybe it would be better for all concerned if he fckt off! Glad I don't have to decide on his future! STID st1halo
  • Score: 1

1:46pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Bob Barnes says...

jasons odd wrote:
give him a chance to apologise and make amends . if he apologises he deserves a 2nd chance
GET RID NOW HE IS WASTER
[quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: give him a chance to apologise and make amends . if he apologises he deserves a 2nd chance[/p][/quote]GET RID NOW HE IS WASTER Bob Barnes
  • Score: 0

1:53pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Bob Barnes says...

All I see is a load of long winded comments on this artical, why not get a whip round for a 1 way ticket home for this wanaker
All I see is a load of long winded comments on this artical, why not get a whip round for a 1 way ticket home for this wanaker Bob Barnes
  • Score: -2

2:44pm Fri 24 Jan 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Bob Barnes wrote:
All I see is a load of long winded comments on this artical, why not get a whip round for a 1 way ticket home for this wanaker
what an idiotic thing to say!
should we just sack him? (very, very hard to sack a footballer by the way)
should we just drop him? let him go back to Italy and sit there for three and a half years on a reported £60k a week and do nothing? (that's around £11mill in wages)
should we loan him out? might not get a team who wants to have him or pay all of the wages.
should we sell him? how much for? some of you think he`s only worth around £5-8mill so we right off £7-10mill? wow that's really good financial thinking, carry on like that and we might well end up doing a poopey!
we could let this all settle down and see if the manager, club and players are willing to put it behind them, don't know if they will but its a better option than `having a whip round to buy him a 1 way ticket home`, fyi I`m sure he can afford a ticket himself, probably even first or business class so you wouldn't have to dig to deep!
[quote][p][bold]Bob Barnes[/bold] wrote: All I see is a load of long winded comments on this artical, why not get a whip round for a 1 way ticket home for this wanaker[/p][/quote]what an idiotic thing to say! should we just sack him? (very, very hard to sack a footballer by the way) should we just drop him? let him go back to Italy and sit there for three and a half years on a reported £60k a week and do nothing? (that's around £11mill in wages) should we loan him out? might not get a team who wants to have him or pay all of the wages. should we sell him? how much for? some of you think he`s only worth around £5-8mill so we right off £7-10mill? wow that's really good financial thinking, carry on like that and we might well end up doing a poopey! we could let this all settle down and see if the manager, club and players are willing to put it behind them, don't know if they will but its a better option than `having a whip round to buy him a 1 way ticket home`, fyi I`m sure he can afford a ticket himself, probably even first or business class so you wouldn't have to dig to deep! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

3:06pm Fri 24 Jan 14

el caballo santos101 says...

right back in the bar wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
brighton saint wrote:
SFC4EVA wrote:
I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical!
Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR
It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you.

It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article:
1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte.
2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.'

In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani.

My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv).

But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.
Usual pompous nonsense you see on here and so easy to say from the comfort of wherever you are sitting. You obviously have never played club football or been involved in any remote capacity. You can bet for sure that players will be rightly **** off, livid, and angry; and being on the receiving end, not as ready as you appear to be to forgive and forget. Imagine your training hard being scrutinised for team selection, making tackles on team mates, just like you would in a match, only for a team mate to take exception to a hard tackle and get up and head butt you in the face. Get real FFS. And do you think the management want players holding back in training, staying clear of Osvaldo in case he gets up and lays into someone. Its a massive negative influence.
usual, `you don't know what its like` response from a poster who knows no more than most. I have played football and we had a fight between our own players at least once a year/season, not always the same players either. but the team step in and sort it out between themselves. it usually brought the team together, in a strange way, and whoever was involved just put it behind them and moved on. having said that we did used to enjoy a punch up with the oppos.
you seem to be looking at this incident like its the only one ever to have happened, it happens all the time it just doesn't always get reported.
you don't know what happened on the training ground, you don't even know 100% that he headbutted him, though he probably did, you don't even know how bad Jose was injured or if he has accepted any apology from Dani. try not to be so holier than thou in your posts, calling others pompous and questioning their football knowledge or ability, makes you look stupid and as if your opinion is the only one that counts. read the post again and you will see IF a lot and leave it up to the club and players. what gives you the right to say what the club should do? they know the facts you don't!
Really? I grew out of it and so do most pros. Why do you think he was suspended? It wasn't for handbags. Totally agree its probably not the first time - which is probably why the club has gone public - they've might have had enough - all offers considered. But if my posts offend mate don't worry its just one big clique on here and everyone else has to fall into line so I probably wont bother in future.
your post doesn't offend me, it would take a lot more than that, but it annoys me when you call people pompous just for not having the same opinion as you, and then imply that you know more about the football world and how players think then everyone else. it isn't one big clique on here, its an open forum where people express views and opinions, hopefully within the rules of the board, I have never, to my knowledge, met any of the others on here, though I know some have made friends because of these forums. if you get a lot of negative responses, or thumbs down, it might be because of how your saying it not what your saying.
I know he has been suspended and the most likely reason why, I`m not that stupid! I wasn't saying that Dani has fought with teammates before, just that it always happens, teammates from every club argue and fight all the time and it gets kept `in-house`. this time though Dani went over the top, so the club acted and announced what has happened. what some are saying is maybe, just maybe there is a way back from this so that he can play for the club again, that might not happen but it might, the club will decide. all offers considered? that's the way to ruin the great financial stability that NC created.
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC4EVA[/bold] wrote: I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical![/p][/quote]Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR[/p][/quote]It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you. It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article: 1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte. 2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.' In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani. My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv). But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.[/p][/quote]Usual pompous nonsense you see on here and so easy to say from the comfort of wherever you are sitting. You obviously have never played club football or been involved in any remote capacity. You can bet for sure that players will be rightly **** off, livid, and angry; and being on the receiving end, not as ready as you appear to be to forgive and forget. Imagine your training hard being scrutinised for team selection, making tackles on team mates, just like you would in a match, only for a team mate to take exception to a hard tackle and get up and head butt you in the face. Get real FFS. And do you think the management want players holding back in training, staying clear of Osvaldo in case he gets up and lays into someone. Its a massive negative influence.[/p][/quote]usual, `you don't know what its like` response from a poster who knows no more than most. I have played football and we had a fight between our own players at least once a year/season, not always the same players either. but the team step in and sort it out between themselves. it usually brought the team together, in a strange way, and whoever was involved just put it behind them and moved on. having said that we did used to enjoy a punch up with the oppos. you seem to be looking at this incident like its the only one ever to have happened, it happens all the time it just doesn't always get reported. you don't know what happened on the training ground, you don't even know 100% that he headbutted him, though he probably did, you don't even know how bad Jose was injured or if he has accepted any apology from Dani. try not to be so holier than thou in your posts, calling others pompous and questioning their football knowledge or ability, makes you look stupid and as if your opinion is the only one that counts. read the post again and you will see IF a lot and leave it up to the club and players. what gives you the right to say what the club should do? they know the facts you don't![/p][/quote]Really? I grew out of it and so do most pros. Why do you think he was suspended? It wasn't for handbags. Totally agree its probably not the first time - which is probably why the club has gone public - they've might have had enough - all offers considered. But if my posts offend mate don't worry its just one big clique on here and everyone else has to fall into line so I probably wont bother in future.[/p][/quote]your post doesn't offend me, it would take a lot more than that, but it annoys me when you call people pompous just for not having the same opinion as you, and then imply that you know more about the football world and how players think then everyone else. it isn't one big clique on here, its an open forum where people express views and opinions, hopefully within the rules of the board, I have never, to my knowledge, met any of the others on here, though I know some have made friends because of these forums. if you get a lot of negative responses, or thumbs down, it might be because of how your saying it not what your saying. I know he has been suspended and the most likely reason why, I`m not that stupid! I wasn't saying that Dani has fought with teammates before, just that it always happens, teammates from every club argue and fight all the time and it gets kept `in-house`. this time though Dani went over the top, so the club acted and announced what has happened. what some are saying is maybe, just maybe there is a way back from this so that he can play for the club again, that might not happen but it might, the club will decide. all offers considered? that's the way to ruin the great financial stability that NC created. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 5

4:00pm Fri 24 Jan 14

peregrine73 says...

Osvaldo has had plenty of time to impress.If you look at his past record there is a history of "events",the club gambled under the influence of MP recommendations. It hasnt worked out and the best result for club and player would be for him to move on .Team unity and moral are the main issue.
Osvaldo has had plenty of time to impress.If you look at his past record there is a history of "events",the club gambled under the influence of MP recommendations. It hasnt worked out and the best result for club and player would be for him to move on .Team unity and moral are the main issue. peregrine73
  • Score: 0

4:42pm Fri 24 Jan 14

JohnItaly says...

jasons odd wrote:
give him a chance to apologise and make amends . if he apologises he deserves a 2nd chance
Don't you mean a 3rd chance after the incident in Newcastle?
[quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: give him a chance to apologise and make amends . if he apologises he deserves a 2nd chance[/p][/quote]Don't you mean a 3rd chance after the incident in Newcastle? JohnItaly
  • Score: 1

4:57pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

right back in the bar wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
brighton saint wrote:
SFC4EVA wrote:
I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical!
Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR
It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you.

It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article:
1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte.
2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.'

In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani.

My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv).

But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.
Usual pompous nonsense you see on here and so easy to say from the comfort of wherever you are sitting. You obviously have never played club football or been involved in any remote capacity. You can bet for sure that players will be rightly **** off, livid, and angry; and being on the receiving end, not as ready as you appear to be to forgive and forget. Imagine your training hard being scrutinised for team selection, making tackles on team mates, just like you would in a match, only for a team mate to take exception to a hard tackle and get up and head butt you in the face. Get real FFS. And do you think the management want players holding back in training, staying clear of Osvaldo in case he gets up and lays into someone. Its a massive negative influence.
I think 101 has said more or less everything I would in response to you, Right Back. Just one question and couple of points:

Q1. Not knowing anything about my footballing past, don't think your assumptions are a wee bit more pompus than my attempts to put a reasoned point forward?

P1. Unlike many others on here, there are a few of us not trying to tell the club (or Jose) what to do.

P2. If you don't like the 'usual' on here, no one's forcing you to read.
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC4EVA[/bold] wrote: I like him. About time we had that one ballsy, a bit unorthodox player! Yes he should not have struck another player but all the reports of headbutts, bloodbaths, facial injuries etc. are all media speculation as was the "players want out" after MC left. NO ONE. Really knows what happened and probably never will. Remember everyone hating Artur after the bottle incident?? People calling for him to never wear the badge again. Let the club deal with it, stop the guess work as it just gets people hysterical![/p][/quote]Deffo totally agree dude,the media love to ham it up as it gives them something to write about , especially when Saints are involved-it's sad that too many actually believe everything the press report.COYR[/p][/quote]It's not the popular view on here but - with certain STRONG reservations - I'm with you. It's easy to come on a thread like this and form half-baked opinions based on loaded sentences such as these two plucked from the above article: 1. 'Southampton's players are UNDERSTOOD TO BE fully supportive of the club's decision to suspend Dani Osvaldo for an ALLEGED headbutt on Jose Fonte. 2. '(Jose's) colleagues ARE SAID TO BE fuming at what happened to him.' In the end, the club has taken a stance, Dani will serve his punishment, Jose will rightly have the club's (and our) full support and the matter will be resolved one way or another. If the club feels there will never again be a place for Dani in the squad, he will be kept out of the squad until he is sold. If, however, the club feels he has a future at Saints (and that may need consultation with MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv), then I'll be the first to back that decision and, thus, back Dani. My strong reservations are that (1) whatever actions are taken are done so swiftly and professionally and (2) decisions are made in consultation with those involved and with those who have some managerial responsibility for both players (hence, MP, Jose, Adam and Kelv). But I think we should be a bit careful what we wish for. If Dani returns to the fold (and I do realise it's a big IF) and ends up scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final (another big IF), I do hope those calling for his head today won't try to celebrate without first checking their dictionary for the word 'hypocrite'.[/p][/quote]Usual pompous nonsense you see on here and so easy to say from the comfort of wherever you are sitting. You obviously have never played club football or been involved in any remote capacity. You can bet for sure that players will be rightly **** off, livid, and angry; and being on the receiving end, not as ready as you appear to be to forgive and forget. Imagine your training hard being scrutinised for team selection, making tackles on team mates, just like you would in a match, only for a team mate to take exception to a hard tackle and get up and head butt you in the face. Get real FFS. And do you think the management want players holding back in training, staying clear of Osvaldo in case he gets up and lays into someone. Its a massive negative influence.[/p][/quote]I think 101 has said more or less everything I would in response to you, Right Back. Just one question and couple of points: Q1. Not knowing anything about my footballing past, don't think your assumptions are a wee bit more pompus than my attempts to put a reasoned point forward? P1. Unlike many others on here, there are a few of us not trying to tell the club (or Jose) what to do. P2. If you don't like the 'usual' on here, no one's forcing you to read. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

5:55pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Clemster wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Good for them, but to forgive is devine.
Is that Shaun Devine? Or Divine?
Oops! Ta! I missed that, another senior moment, nothing that a full frontal lobotomy wouldn't cure, now there is a thought........
[quote][p][bold]Clemster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Good for them, but to forgive is devine.[/p][/quote]Is that Shaun Devine? Or Divine?[/p][/quote]Oops! Ta! I missed that, another senior moment, nothing that a full frontal lobotomy wouldn't cure, now there is a thought........ OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

5:59pm Fri 24 Jan 14

peregrine73 says...

Can Osvaldo maintain any respect from his team mates?,and if there is doubt here can he play any further role in the team?
Can Osvaldo maintain any respect from his team mates?,and if there is doubt here can he play any further role in the team? peregrine73
  • Score: 1

6:49pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Lehman Bros Banker says...

Osvaldo is an unsavoury character with form. He's only just back from a 3 match ban for kicking off at Newcastle. We're already without Lovren for 6 to 8 weeks, and the thought of trying to soldier on without Fonte as well had his injury been more serious just beggars belief. Send the fiery hothead back to Italy or alternatively to the Lee Barnard School of Anger Management..
Osvaldo is an unsavoury character with form. He's only just back from a 3 match ban for kicking off at Newcastle. We're already without Lovren for 6 to 8 weeks, and the thought of trying to soldier on without Fonte as well had his injury been more serious just beggars belief. Send the fiery hothead back to Italy or alternatively to the Lee Barnard School of Anger Management.. Lehman Bros Banker
  • Score: 0

7:30pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Alytude says...

My husband and I go to every home match. ( would go to away matches as well but I'm disabled in a wheelchair. Very hard to travel) like the other fans we sit in the freezing wet weather. We try to encourage the team when they have been 2 ahead then because of stupid mistakes end up losing 3-2. I feel at a loss at the things I have been reading over the last few weeks coming out of the club.
I feel that if they put as much energy into the game as there seems to be given to talking to the press and in fighting. Maybe we can start winning games again. Come on boys your better than this.
My husband and I go to every home match. ( would go to away matches as well but I'm disabled in a wheelchair. Very hard to travel) like the other fans we sit in the freezing wet weather. We try to encourage the team when they have been 2 ahead then because of stupid mistakes end up losing 3-2. I feel at a loss at the things I have been reading over the last few weeks coming out of the club. I feel that if they put as much energy into the game as there seems to be given to talking to the press and in fighting. Maybe we can start winning games again. Come on boys your better than this. Alytude
  • Score: 1

9:07pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Jesus_02 says...

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
Business I would have like to have seen in the transfer window would have been.

Shaw to Chelsea
Osvaldo - Out to either suitors
= 40m +

Ba and Bertrum in from Chelsea ~ 20m
+ another young LB
+ CB @ ~10m
+ Reserve GK

....hang on this isn't Championship Manager.. oh well never mind..I dont think anyone will be coming or going till the summer
protip:

If we want to get anywhere we need to ADD TO the talent already at the club

NOT SELL IT OFF AT THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY

why oh why do people not get this?
Pro Tip:

Try and raise the overall standard of the squad...

Example:

What right minded quality left back is going to come to saints to play as back up for Shaw. Bertrum is quality has had two England England caps and is desperate to play. Someone else coming into the side is going to be less intimidated by Bertrum and fancy their chances of getting a game.

This scenario doesnt leave us with having a good young player with bags of potential one week and Danny Fox the next

Do you get it?
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: Business I would have like to have seen in the transfer window would have been. Shaw to Chelsea Osvaldo - Out to either suitors = 40m + Ba and Bertrum in from Chelsea ~ 20m + another young LB + CB @ ~10m + Reserve GK ....hang on this isn't Championship Manager.. oh well never mind..I dont think anyone will be coming or going till the summer[/p][/quote]protip: If we want to get anywhere we need to ADD TO the talent already at the club NOT SELL IT OFF AT THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY why oh why do people not get this?[/p][/quote]Pro Tip: Try and raise the overall standard of the squad... Example: What right minded quality left back is going to come to saints to play as back up for Shaw. Bertrum is quality has had two England England caps and is desperate to play. Someone else coming into the side is going to be less intimidated by Bertrum and fancy their chances of getting a game. This scenario doesnt leave us with having a good young player with bags of potential one week and Danny Fox the next Do you get it? Jesus_02
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9:57pm Fri 24 Jan 14

SaintinCanada says...

I can count myself PROUD to have been the product of the Brtish military system. Too bad that Mr Osvaldo didn't. I don't know what I can add to this thread....but I wish I could.
I can count myself PROUD to have been the product of the Brtish military system. Too bad that Mr Osvaldo didn't. I don't know what I can add to this thread....but I wish I could. SaintinCanada
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11:21pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
Stroppy_gramps wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
Business I would have like to have seen in the transfer window would have been.

Shaw to Chelsea
Osvaldo - Out to either suitors
= 40m +

Ba and Bertrum in from Chelsea ~ 20m
+ another young LB
+ CB @ ~10m
+ Reserve GK

....hang on this isn't Championship Manager.. oh well never mind..I dont think anyone will be coming or going till the summer
protip:

If we want to get anywhere we need to ADD TO the talent already at the club

NOT SELL IT OFF AT THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY

why oh why do people not get this?
Pro Tip:

Try and raise the overall standard of the squad...

Example:

What right minded quality left back is going to come to saints to play as back up for Shaw. Bertrum is quality has had two England England caps and is desperate to play. Someone else coming into the side is going to be less intimidated by Bertrum and fancy their chances of getting a game.

This scenario doesnt leave us with having a good young player with bags of potential one week and Danny Fox the next

Do you get it?
I assume that you are referring to Ryan Bertrand, too late he is on loan to Aston Villa for the rest of the season.
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: Business I would have like to have seen in the transfer window would have been. Shaw to Chelsea Osvaldo - Out to either suitors = 40m + Ba and Bertrum in from Chelsea ~ 20m + another young LB + CB @ ~10m + Reserve GK ....hang on this isn't Championship Manager.. oh well never mind..I dont think anyone will be coming or going till the summer[/p][/quote]protip: If we want to get anywhere we need to ADD TO the talent already at the club NOT SELL IT OFF AT THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY why oh why do people not get this?[/p][/quote]Pro Tip: Try and raise the overall standard of the squad... Example: What right minded quality left back is going to come to saints to play as back up for Shaw. Bertrum is quality has had two England England caps and is desperate to play. Someone else coming into the side is going to be less intimidated by Bertrum and fancy their chances of getting a game. This scenario doesnt leave us with having a good young player with bags of potential one week and Danny Fox the next Do you get it?[/p][/quote]I assume that you are referring to Ryan Bertrand, too late he is on loan to Aston Villa for the rest of the season. OSPREYSAINT
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