Poch: West Ham 'more effective'

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Mauricio Pochettino felt Saints lost at Upton Park because West Ham had the “effectiveness” they lacked.

The Saints boss, who reversed the six changes he had made for the FA Cup defeat at Sunderland the previous weekend, saw his side’s six-game Premier League unbeaten run come to an end.

Saints dominated much of the game, boasting 69 per cent possession and having 25 shots, yet they ended up on the wrong end of a 3-1 scoreline.

Pochettino said: “I do like statistics to justify the defeat.

“I am very disappointed with the defeat. I felt we fully deserved to get something more from the game.

“We had full control of the game and that led us to get the 1-0.

“It’s clear that the 1-1 came from an offside position and that was unlucky for us and the team struggled to recover from the 2-1 which made everything difficult for us.

“I thought in the second half we created many good chances and we were unlucky not to get the 2-2 that would have changed the game.

“I thought overall we were quite unlucky with the refereeing decisions and that we didn’t score more goals.”

Saints were frustrated that West Ham’s first goal, an equaliser to Maya Yoshida’s early header, wasn’t ruled out for offside.

But the boss didn’t accept too much criticism of his players defensively for the other two Hammers goals.

“I thought we were unlucky for the first goal so we can leave that goal aside because it shouldn’t have gone to 1-1,” he reflected.

“In their second goal three of our players were unable to clear the ball. It was just one of those moments where there was indecision in the box.

“Then we were looking for the equaliser, the 2-2, they came strong on the counter attack and we know of Cole and Nolan’s strengths, they are very strong players.

“I thought the team worked very well.

“We knew it was going to be a very tough game against very good opposition and we lacked exactly what they had – effectiveness.”

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6:39am Mon 24 Feb 14

eastsidemush says...

'.....Saints dominated much of the game, boasting 69 per cent possession and having 25 shots, yet they ended up on the wrong end of a 3-1 scoreline......'

Unfortunately the story of too many of Saints games of late.
Doesn't take a genius to work out we need an effective and prolific goalscorer for next season if we really want to compete with the best teams.
'.....Saints dominated much of the game, boasting 69 per cent possession and having 25 shots, yet they ended up on the wrong end of a 3-1 scoreline......' Unfortunately the story of too many of Saints games of late. Doesn't take a genius to work out we need an effective and prolific goalscorer for next season if we really want to compete with the best teams. eastsidemush
  • Score: 16

7:34am Mon 24 Feb 14

Dubai-saints89 says...

i guess we find it hard to play against teams who play very unattractive football - stoke, west ham, Sunderland. its not rocket science - we dominate the likes of Liverpool and arsenal then concede to those bottom half teams who like to hoof and play dirty. now, MP has the whole summer to figure out how to beat these teams. whether its to spend big or change our style of play then so be it if we want to push for a 'champions league spot' next season we HAVE to beat whats in front of us.
to be fair, i have no idea what we have left to fight for this season, looks like a dull fight with Newcastle for 8th spot. no cup run and no European spot. i just hope We stay in the top half and produce some superb results.
i guess we find it hard to play against teams who play very unattractive football - stoke, west ham, Sunderland. its not rocket science - we dominate the likes of Liverpool and arsenal then concede to those bottom half teams who like to hoof and play dirty. now, MP has the whole summer to figure out how to beat these teams. whether its to spend big or change our style of play then so be it if we want to push for a 'champions league spot' next season we HAVE to beat whats in front of us. to be fair, i have no idea what we have left to fight for this season, looks like a dull fight with Newcastle for 8th spot. no cup run and no European spot. i just hope We stay in the top half and produce some superb results. Dubai-saints89
  • Score: 4

7:42am Mon 24 Feb 14

saint christopher says...

"Effective" - management-speak for the fact that they only conceded one goal at one end whilst scoring 50% of their chances at the other. Which presumably means he agrees that continually allowing other teams to score soft goals against us whilst being unable to put away 10% of the chances we create means we're "ineffective"?
"Effective" - management-speak for the fact that they only conceded one goal at one end whilst scoring 50% of their chances at the other. Which presumably means he agrees that continually allowing other teams to score soft goals against us whilst being unable to put away 10% of the chances we create means we're "ineffective"? saint christopher
  • Score: 1

7:46am Mon 24 Feb 14

miltonnroad76 says...

Our strikers rickie adam and jay getting stick for missed chances but they are 3 of top scorers in the league ..i would suggest the midfield isnt chipping in with the extra goals even the defence has scored more than them.
Our strikers rickie adam and jay getting stick for missed chances but they are 3 of top scorers in the league ..i would suggest the midfield isnt chipping in with the extra goals even the defence has scored more than them. miltonnroad76
  • Score: 12

8:05am Mon 24 Feb 14

Dubai-saints89 says...

miltonnroad76 wrote:
Our strikers rickie adam and jay getting stick for missed chances but they are 3 of top scorers in the league ..i would suggest the midfield isnt chipping in with the extra goals even the defence has scored more than them.
can we also stop playing Yoshida and steven Davies? yes they contributed while the others were away but we now have a full fit lovern, wanyama and ramirez to choose from who are a lot better.
[quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: Our strikers rickie adam and jay getting stick for missed chances but they are 3 of top scorers in the league ..i would suggest the midfield isnt chipping in with the extra goals even the defence has scored more than them.[/p][/quote]can we also stop playing Yoshida and steven Davies? yes they contributed while the others were away but we now have a full fit lovern, wanyama and ramirez to choose from who are a lot better. Dubai-saints89
  • Score: -6

8:06am Mon 24 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

saint christopher wrote:
"Effective" - management-speak for the fact that they only conceded one goal at one end whilst scoring 50% of their chances at the other. Which presumably means he agrees that continually allowing other teams to score soft goals against us whilst being unable to put away 10% of the chances we create means we're "ineffective"?
Well done. You deserve a GCSE in English for demonstrating that you can read and understand a newspaper article.
[quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: "Effective" - management-speak for the fact that they only conceded one goal at one end whilst scoring 50% of their chances at the other. Which presumably means he agrees that continually allowing other teams to score soft goals against us whilst being unable to put away 10% of the chances we create means we're "ineffective"?[/p][/quote]Well done. You deserve a GCSE in English for demonstrating that you can read and understand a newspaper article. Rising_Son
  • Score: -4

8:12am Mon 24 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

eastsidemush wrote:
'.....Saints dominated much of the game, boasting 69 per cent possession and having 25 shots, yet they ended up on the wrong end of a 3-1 scoreline......'

Unfortunately the story of too many of Saints games of late.
Doesn't take a genius to work out we need an effective and prolific goalscorer for next season if we really want to compete with the best teams.
I'm not disagreeing with you about the need for 'an effective and prolific goalscorer next season if we really want to compete with the best teams ', but what do you think happened to ones we had before the 'games of late'? Or do you think we never had any to start with?
[quote][p][bold]eastsidemush[/bold] wrote: '.....Saints dominated much of the game, boasting 69 per cent possession and having 25 shots, yet they ended up on the wrong end of a 3-1 scoreline......' Unfortunately the story of too many of Saints games of late. Doesn't take a genius to work out we need an effective and prolific goalscorer for next season if we really want to compete with the best teams.[/p][/quote]I'm not disagreeing with you about the need for 'an effective and prolific goalscorer next season if we really want to compete with the best teams ', but what do you think happened to ones we had before the 'games of late'? Or do you think we never had any to start with? Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

9:01am Mon 24 Feb 14

bigfella777 says...

Maybe West Ham weren't drinking the night before the game
Maybe West Ham weren't drinking the night before the game bigfella777
  • Score: -5

9:14am Mon 24 Feb 14

Malcombe says...

Very disappointing result but Saints do have something to play for it's pride, win as many games until 38 games have been played and compare the improvement from last season after all it's only the 2nd season and without doubt the Team have improved, patients is what is needed.

Over the years Saints have always lacked a consistent goal scorer since Dave Armstrong, Steve Williams was a good midfielder but very rarely scored goals, Nick Holmes use to get a few every season but overall midfielder's never seem to score many.

I think Saints do have very good Team and it's wonderful to watch the lovely Football played but surely Players must go for shoot when in sight of the goal post more often, if it **** up so what 50% of attempts could end in the Net and goals of the season or is it a Player doesn't want to make himself look an idiot and would want a big hole in the ground to swallow him up? Players are very aware what is expected on the pitch, goals win games and the know that.

If Saints finish 8th that is an improvement from 14th last season, my mate is a season ticket holder and he has watched them home and away and cannot believe how many times Saints have the majority of possession then lose.

let us all look forward to the remaining games and be optimistic for next season but not wish our time away COYR
Very disappointing result but Saints do have something to play for it's pride, win as many games until 38 games have been played and compare the improvement from last season after all it's only the 2nd season and without doubt the Team have improved, patients is what is needed. Over the years Saints have always lacked a consistent goal scorer since Dave Armstrong, Steve Williams was a good midfielder but very rarely scored goals, Nick Holmes use to get a few every season but overall midfielder's never seem to score many. I think Saints do have very good Team and it's wonderful to watch the lovely Football played but surely Players must go for shoot when in sight of the goal post more often, if it **** up so what 50% of attempts could end in the Net and goals of the season or is it a Player doesn't want to make himself look an idiot and would want a big hole in the ground to swallow him up? Players are very aware what is expected on the pitch, goals win games and the know that. If Saints finish 8th that is an improvement from 14th last season, my mate is a season ticket holder and he has watched them home and away and cannot believe how many times Saints have the majority of possession then lose. let us all look forward to the remaining games and be optimistic for next season but not wish our time away COYR Malcombe
  • Score: 5

9:35am Mon 24 Feb 14

Poole Tom says...

Our style of football is great to watch and overall very effective. However the game is still all about the players. Ours are very good but in the main not of Champions League quality. However a twenty goal a season striker would certainly help, but even then we would still lose games like Saturday`s, in the same way that City lost at Cardiff and Liverpool lost at home to us! That`s football.
Our style of football is great to watch and overall very effective. However the game is still all about the players. Ours are very good but in the main not of Champions League quality. However a twenty goal a season striker would certainly help, but even then we would still lose games like Saturday`s, in the same way that City lost at Cardiff and Liverpool lost at home to us! That`s football. Poole Tom
  • Score: 1

10:11am Mon 24 Feb 14

Saint-Mike says...

And how many times this season have Saints scored first then gone on to lose the match?
And how many times this season have Saints scored first then gone on to lose the match? Saint-Mike
  • Score: 2

10:21am Mon 24 Feb 14

Clever Dick says...

Hoofers also had an extra man on the pitch making sure that no important decisions went our way.
Hoofers also had an extra man on the pitch making sure that no important decisions went our way. Clever Dick
  • Score: 0

11:10am Mon 24 Feb 14

Clever Dick says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Maybe West Ham weren't drinking the night before the game
Yeah and ours were of course wern't they. Along with MOPo and Katherina. They were probably having a party to welcome the new chief executive and trying to see who could get the most p!$$ed What a prat!
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Maybe West Ham weren't drinking the night before the game[/p][/quote]Yeah and ours were of course wern't they. Along with MOPo and Katherina. They were probably having a party to welcome the new chief executive and trying to see who could get the most p!$$ed What a prat! Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

11:10am Mon 24 Feb 14

Jesus_02 says...

eastsidemush wrote:
'.....Saints dominated much of the game, boasting 69 per cent possession and having 25 shots, yet they ended up on the wrong end of a 3-1 scoreline......' Unfortunately the story of too many of Saints games of late. Doesn't take a genius to work out we need an effective and prolific goalscorer for next season if we really want to compete with the best teams.
I would settle for 1-0 away from home 4-3 may have been more exiting by I would say that it doesnt take a genius to work out that our defense is the issue at the moment.
[quote][p][bold]eastsidemush[/bold] wrote: '.....Saints dominated much of the game, boasting 69 per cent possession and having 25 shots, yet they ended up on the wrong end of a 3-1 scoreline......' Unfortunately the story of too many of Saints games of late. Doesn't take a genius to work out we need an effective and prolific goalscorer for next season if we really want to compete with the best teams.[/p][/quote]I would settle for 1-0 away from home 4-3 may have been more exiting by I would say that it doesnt take a genius to work out that our defense is the issue at the moment. Jesus_02
  • Score: 0

11:36am Mon 24 Feb 14

bigfella777 says...

Clever Dick wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Maybe West Ham weren't drinking the night before the game
Yeah and ours were of course wern't they. Along with MOPo and Katherina. They were probably having a party to welcome the new chief executive and trying to see who could get the most p!$$ed What a prat!
Yes they were because the barman in the hotel tweeted it. I never said they were drunk but they were drinking.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Maybe West Ham weren't drinking the night before the game[/p][/quote]Yeah and ours were of course wern't they. Along with MOPo and Katherina. They were probably having a party to welcome the new chief executive and trying to see who could get the most p!$$ed What a prat![/p][/quote]Yes they were because the barman in the hotel tweeted it. I never said they were drunk but they were drinking. bigfella777
  • Score: -6

12:04pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Alicesdad says...

I think I have discovered what's wrong.

Our finishing lacks a killer touch .. we don't score enough goals ... and the mid-field should score more .. it is one thing to have 60 +% of the possession and loads of shots, it is another to score goals. The game is dominated by stats ... but the top teams that challenge for Europe score a lot of goals ... and don't let many in.

Obvious really, so that's that sorted then. This coming Saturday it will all be incorporated in MoPo's revised game plan and we will anhihilate the northern hordes.
I think I have discovered what's wrong. Our finishing lacks a killer touch .. we don't score enough goals ... and the mid-field should score more .. it is one thing to have 60 +% of the possession and loads of shots, it is another to score goals. The game is dominated by stats ... but the top teams that challenge for Europe score a lot of goals ... and don't let many in. Obvious really, so that's that sorted then. This coming Saturday it will all be incorporated in MoPo's revised game plan and we will anhihilate the northern hordes. Alicesdad
  • Score: 3

12:12pm Mon 24 Feb 14

saint christopher says...

Rising_Son wrote:
saint christopher wrote:
"Effective" - management-speak for the fact that they only conceded one goal at one end whilst scoring 50% of their chances at the other. Which presumably means he agrees that continually allowing other teams to score soft goals against us whilst being unable to put away 10% of the chances we create means we're "ineffective"?
Well done. You deserve a GCSE in English for demonstrating that you can read and understand a newspaper article.
Plonker
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: "Effective" - management-speak for the fact that they only conceded one goal at one end whilst scoring 50% of their chances at the other. Which presumably means he agrees that continually allowing other teams to score soft goals against us whilst being unable to put away 10% of the chances we create means we're "ineffective"?[/p][/quote]Well done. You deserve a GCSE in English for demonstrating that you can read and understand a newspaper article.[/p][/quote]Plonker saint christopher
  • Score: 1

12:24pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

saint christopher wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
saint christopher wrote:
"Effective" - management-speak for the fact that they only conceded one goal at one end whilst scoring 50% of their chances at the other. Which presumably means he agrees that continually allowing other teams to score soft goals against us whilst being unable to put away 10% of the chances we create means we're "ineffective"?
Well done. You deserve a GCSE in English for demonstrating that you can read and understand a newspaper article.
Plonker
That's what I wanted to say about you.
[quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: "Effective" - management-speak for the fact that they only conceded one goal at one end whilst scoring 50% of their chances at the other. Which presumably means he agrees that continually allowing other teams to score soft goals against us whilst being unable to put away 10% of the chances we create means we're "ineffective"?[/p][/quote]Well done. You deserve a GCSE in English for demonstrating that you can read and understand a newspaper article.[/p][/quote]Plonker[/p][/quote]That's what I wanted to say about you. Rising_Son
  • Score: -1

12:34pm Mon 24 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Maybe West Ham weren't drinking the night before the game
Yeah and ours were of course wern't they. Along with MOPo and Katherina. They were probably having a party to welcome the new chief executive and trying to see who could get the most p!$$ed What a prat!
Yes they were because the barman in the hotel tweeted it. I never said they were drunk but they were drinking.
no that I disbelieve you bigfella but do you have proof? apart from saying that the, probably now unemployed if true, barman tweeted it? the only mention I have seen of this claim is by you, a brighton fan (and before anyone has a go at me for saying he`s not a saints fan, mentally challenged etc, he is! he said it himself when saints were playing brighton in L1 and the champ! he now claims to be a saint though!) and we all know what brighton players like to do before a game don't we, no not that! punch had to go half way through a game.
could you provide the tweet or the twitter name of the person who tweeted it?
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Maybe West Ham weren't drinking the night before the game[/p][/quote]Yeah and ours were of course wern't they. Along with MOPo and Katherina. They were probably having a party to welcome the new chief executive and trying to see who could get the most p!$$ed What a prat![/p][/quote]Yes they were because the barman in the hotel tweeted it. I never said they were drunk but they were drinking.[/p][/quote]no that I disbelieve you bigfella but do you have proof? apart from saying that the, probably now unemployed if true, barman tweeted it? the only mention I have seen of this claim is by you, a brighton fan (and before anyone has a go at me for saying he`s not a saints fan, mentally challenged etc, he is! he said it himself when saints were playing brighton in L1 and the champ! he now claims to be a saint though!) and we all know what brighton players like to do before a game don't we, no not that! punch had to go half way through a game. could you provide the tweet or the twitter name of the person who tweeted it? el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

3:13pm Mon 24 Feb 14

BAKER1965 says...

Dubai-saints89 wrote:
i guess we find it hard to play against teams who play very unattractive football - stoke, west ham, Sunderland. its not rocket science - we dominate the likes of Liverpool and arsenal then concede to those bottom half teams who like to hoof and play dirty. now, MP has the whole summer to figure out how to beat these teams. whether its to spend big or change our style of play then so be it if we want to push for a 'champions league spot' next season we HAVE to beat whats in front of us.
to be fair, i have no idea what we have left to fight for this season, looks like a dull fight with Newcastle for 8th spot. no cup run and no European spot. i just hope We stay in the top half and produce some superb results.
We could lose the next five and join the relegation battle.
[quote][p][bold]Dubai-saints89[/bold] wrote: i guess we find it hard to play against teams who play very unattractive football - stoke, west ham, Sunderland. its not rocket science - we dominate the likes of Liverpool and arsenal then concede to those bottom half teams who like to hoof and play dirty. now, MP has the whole summer to figure out how to beat these teams. whether its to spend big or change our style of play then so be it if we want to push for a 'champions league spot' next season we HAVE to beat whats in front of us. to be fair, i have no idea what we have left to fight for this season, looks like a dull fight with Newcastle for 8th spot. no cup run and no European spot. i just hope We stay in the top half and produce some superb results.[/p][/quote]We could lose the next five and join the relegation battle. BAKER1965
  • Score: -3

4:21pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Wembley76 says...

eastsidemush wrote:
'.....Saints dominated much of the game, boasting 69 per cent possession and having 25 shots, yet they ended up on the wrong end of a 3-1 scoreline......'

Unfortunately the story of too many of Saints games of late.
Doesn't take a genius to work out we need an effective and prolific goalscorer for next season if we really want to compete with the best teams.
The startling statistic which is a trend, is that despite the superiority in possession and shots....only 5 were on target.....we cannot win games unless we make the keeper 'work'...something we are failing to do...seems to me that this is a training / coaching issue..
[quote][p][bold]eastsidemush[/bold] wrote: '.....Saints dominated much of the game, boasting 69 per cent possession and having 25 shots, yet they ended up on the wrong end of a 3-1 scoreline......' Unfortunately the story of too many of Saints games of late. Doesn't take a genius to work out we need an effective and prolific goalscorer for next season if we really want to compete with the best teams.[/p][/quote]The startling statistic which is a trend, is that despite the superiority in possession and shots....only 5 were on target.....we cannot win games unless we make the keeper 'work'...something we are failing to do...seems to me that this is a training / coaching issue.. Wembley76
  • Score: 3

4:25pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Wembley76 says...

Dubai-saints89 wrote:
miltonnroad76 wrote:
Our strikers rickie adam and jay getting stick for missed chances but they are 3 of top scorers in the league ..i would suggest the midfield isnt chipping in with the extra goals even the defence has scored more than them.
can we also stop playing Yoshida and steven Davies? yes they contributed while the others were away but we now have a full fit lovern, wanyama and ramirez to choose from who are a lot better.
Davis has been a highly 'effective' and 'efficient' player, on and off the ball....Lovren has to be first choice, but clearly he is not fit yet and Yoshida has been playing pretty well....we just need to be more effective at 'hitting the target' with all those shots...and be a little more clinical and strong just after we take the lead...
[quote][p][bold]Dubai-saints89[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: Our strikers rickie adam and jay getting stick for missed chances but they are 3 of top scorers in the league ..i would suggest the midfield isnt chipping in with the extra goals even the defence has scored more than them.[/p][/quote]can we also stop playing Yoshida and steven Davies? yes they contributed while the others were away but we now have a full fit lovern, wanyama and ramirez to choose from who are a lot better.[/p][/quote]Davis has been a highly 'effective' and 'efficient' player, on and off the ball....Lovren has to be first choice, but clearly he is not fit yet and Yoshida has been playing pretty well....we just need to be more effective at 'hitting the target' with all those shots...and be a little more clinical and strong just after we take the lead... Wembley76
  • Score: 4

4:33pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Clever Dick says...

BAKER1965 wrote:
Dubai-saints89 wrote:
i guess we find it hard to play against teams who play very unattractive football - stoke, west ham, Sunderland. its not rocket science - we dominate the likes of Liverpool and arsenal then concede to those bottom half teams who like to hoof and play dirty. now, MP has the whole summer to figure out how to beat these teams. whether its to spend big or change our style of play then so be it if we want to push for a 'champions league spot' next season we HAVE to beat whats in front of us.
to be fair, i have no idea what we have left to fight for this season, looks like a dull fight with Newcastle for 8th spot. no cup run and no European spot. i just hope We stay in the top half and produce some superb results.
We could lose the next five and join the relegation battle.
We are already safe. Cardiff are falling apart and won't reach 39. Sunderland have to play 5 Top teams and won't make 39. Fulham have to catch us at a rate over over a point a game and they are cr@p anyway and won't make 39 points. And there are also quite a few six pointers amongst all the strugglers. We also have some very winnable home games against those same strugglers. 11 games left. Let's be over pessimistic and say we win 3 draw 2 and lose six. That's 50 points minimum. You can also be overly pessimistic too if you like. But no matter how pessimistic you chose to be we will be playing in the prem next season.
[quote][p][bold]BAKER1965[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dubai-saints89[/bold] wrote: i guess we find it hard to play against teams who play very unattractive football - stoke, west ham, Sunderland. its not rocket science - we dominate the likes of Liverpool and arsenal then concede to those bottom half teams who like to hoof and play dirty. now, MP has the whole summer to figure out how to beat these teams. whether its to spend big or change our style of play then so be it if we want to push for a 'champions league spot' next season we HAVE to beat whats in front of us. to be fair, i have no idea what we have left to fight for this season, looks like a dull fight with Newcastle for 8th spot. no cup run and no European spot. i just hope We stay in the top half and produce some superb results.[/p][/quote]We could lose the next five and join the relegation battle.[/p][/quote]We are already safe. Cardiff are falling apart and won't reach 39. Sunderland have to play 5 Top teams and won't make 39. Fulham have to catch us at a rate over over a point a game and they are cr@p anyway and won't make 39 points. And there are also quite a few six pointers amongst all the strugglers. We also have some very winnable home games against those same strugglers. 11 games left. Let's be over pessimistic and say we win 3 draw 2 and lose six. That's 50 points minimum. You can also be overly pessimistic too if you like. But no matter how pessimistic you chose to be we will be playing in the prem next season. Clever Dick
  • Score: 6

4:56pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Costa Baz says...

Wembley76 wrote:
eastsidemush wrote: '.....Saints dominated much of the game, boasting 69 per cent possession and having 25 shots, yet they ended up on the wrong end of a 3-1 scoreline......' Unfortunately the story of too many of Saints games of late. Doesn't take a genius to work out we need an effective and prolific goalscorer for next season if we really want to compete with the best teams.
The startling statistic which is a trend, is that despite the superiority in possession and shots....only 5 were on target.....we cannot win games unless we make the keeper 'work'...something we are failing to do...seems to me that this is a training / coaching issue..
Clearly, despite having 3 of the most highly rated, attacking English players, we have a problem with hitting the target consistently.

We all know that our front three are capable of scoring sensational goals, but we also know that they are equally capable of scuffing shots wide, blazing them over the bar or gently hitting the ball into the goalkeepers midriff.

So, is it a training/coaching issue, or is it a mental thing?

We also have to remember that despite all the missed opportunities, our front three have scored around 25 league goals between them, which isn't a bad return, with 11 games still to play.
[quote][p][bold]Wembley76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eastsidemush[/bold] wrote: '.....Saints dominated much of the game, boasting 69 per cent possession and having 25 shots, yet they ended up on the wrong end of a 3-1 scoreline......' Unfortunately the story of too many of Saints games of late. Doesn't take a genius to work out we need an effective and prolific goalscorer for next season if we really want to compete with the best teams.[/p][/quote]The startling statistic which is a trend, is that despite the superiority in possession and shots....only 5 were on target.....we cannot win games unless we make the keeper 'work'...something we are failing to do...seems to me that this is a training / coaching issue..[/p][/quote]Clearly, despite having 3 of the most highly rated, attacking English players, we have a problem with hitting the target consistently. We all know that our front three are capable of scoring sensational goals, but we also know that they are equally capable of scuffing shots wide, blazing them over the bar or gently hitting the ball into the goalkeepers midriff. So, is it a training/coaching issue, or is it a mental thing? We also have to remember that despite all the missed opportunities, our front three have scored around 25 league goals between them, which isn't a bad return, with 11 games still to play. Costa Baz
  • Score: 0

4:56pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Clever Dick says...

On a lighter note. Apparently the Scunny keeper was posing for pictures with the fans on Saturday as he had so little to do.
On a lighter note. Apparently the Scunny keeper was posing for pictures with the fans on Saturday as he had so little to do. Clever Dick
  • Score: 8

6:01pm Mon 24 Feb 14

The Inbetweener says...

Like you say Costa Baz, our strikers are just not consistent or clinical enough.
SRL was unlucky to hit the post, Adam hit his shot straight at the keeper and I can't remember a chance for J-Roy - not really good enough at this level. Gaston's skill to nut-meg the WetSpam defender is great to watch, but then blasts the ball over the cross bar instead of slotting the ball away.
Compare this with Sturridge who has scored in his last 8 games - that's the consistancy we need up front.
Like you say Costa Baz, our strikers are just not consistent or clinical enough. SRL was unlucky to hit the post, Adam hit his shot straight at the keeper and I can't remember a chance for J-Roy - not really good enough at this level. Gaston's skill to nut-meg the WetSpam defender is great to watch, but then blasts the ball over the cross bar instead of slotting the ball away. Compare this with Sturridge who has scored in his last 8 games - that's the consistancy we need up front. The Inbetweener
  • Score: -3

6:51pm Mon 24 Feb 14

TEqH 83 says...

The Inbetweener wrote:
Like you say Costa Baz, our strikers are just not consistent or clinical enough.
SRL was unlucky to hit the post, Adam hit his shot straight at the keeper and I can't remember a chance for J-Roy - not really good enough at this level. Gaston's skill to nut-meg the WetSpam defender is great to watch, but then blasts the ball over the cross bar instead of slotting the ball away.
Compare this with Sturridge who has scored in his last 8 games - that's the consistancy we need up front.
A clinical in-form striker like Sturridge on his current hot streak is the holy grail that all clubs, fans, managers and players wish for. Confidence plays a massive part but even Suarez has only scored one goal in his last 8 games and Rooney only 2 in his past 11 matches so all players go through dry patches no matter what their pedigree. I think that more competition for attacking positions would benefit our strikers as they have to be bang on it to get in the team then and will train harder to prove their worth. No disrespect to Sam Gallagher but he's not proven yet and is still learning his trade. Osvaldo may have been a tosser but his presence would have made everyone raise their games to ensure that they got in the side. Maybe there's a bit of complacency due to the lack of genuine competition at the moment.
[quote][p][bold]The Inbetweener[/bold] wrote: Like you say Costa Baz, our strikers are just not consistent or clinical enough. SRL was unlucky to hit the post, Adam hit his shot straight at the keeper and I can't remember a chance for J-Roy - not really good enough at this level. Gaston's skill to nut-meg the WetSpam defender is great to watch, but then blasts the ball over the cross bar instead of slotting the ball away. Compare this with Sturridge who has scored in his last 8 games - that's the consistancy we need up front.[/p][/quote]A clinical in-form striker like Sturridge on his current hot streak is the holy grail that all clubs, fans, managers and players wish for. Confidence plays a massive part but even Suarez has only scored one goal in his last 8 games and Rooney only 2 in his past 11 matches so all players go through dry patches no matter what their pedigree. I think that more competition for attacking positions would benefit our strikers as they have to be bang on it to get in the team then and will train harder to prove their worth. No disrespect to Sam Gallagher but he's not proven yet and is still learning his trade. Osvaldo may have been a tosser but his presence would have made everyone raise their games to ensure that they got in the side. Maybe there's a bit of complacency due to the lack of genuine competition at the moment. TEqH 83
  • Score: 2

10:51pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Ontario Saint says...

If possession was the criteria for the Champions league then we would be in the top 4. Sad thing though is that West Ham are not in the same league as a footballing team as Saints...they are very physical as well.. I think Jose Mourinho described them as the worst footballing team in the Premiership. Anyway the game against Liverpool should be a cracker of a game and I think Saints will get a result ,likely a draw as Liverpool are playing so well and should be back in the Champions league next season. I am convinced too that West Hamsfirst goal was offside.

Hopefully we might still make it to 6th spot which will be a great accomplishment for Poch and the players who have played some of the best Football in the Premiership with 7 British players usually in the line up more than any other Club.
If possession was the criteria for the Champions league then we would be in the top 4. Sad thing though is that West Ham are not in the same league as a footballing team as Saints...they are very physical as well.. I think Jose Mourinho described them as the worst footballing team in the Premiership. Anyway the game against Liverpool should be a cracker of a game and I think Saints will get a result ,likely a draw as Liverpool are playing so well and should be back in the Champions league next season. I am convinced too that West Hamsfirst goal was offside. Hopefully we might still make it to 6th spot which will be a great accomplishment for Poch and the players who have played some of the best Football in the Premiership with 7 British players usually in the line up more than any other Club. Ontario Saint
  • Score: 0

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