Poch says Saints defeat was unfair

Mauricio Pochettino

Mauricio Pochettino

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Mauricio Pochettino believes Liverpool’s 3-0 win at St Mary’s was an unfair result – but admitted Saints paid the price for not being clinical enough.

Goals from Luis Suarez, Raheem Sterling and a Steven Gerrard penalty condemned Saints to defeat against the title chasing Reds.

Saints, whose four England players all started in front of the watching Roy Hodgson, did have a few decent chances of their own, particularly in the first half, but failed to convert any of them.

Pochettino felt that was the decisive factor.

He said: “We created many chances in the first half and we deserved a lot more from that first half and it should have been a different result but we needed to be more clinical in the first half to get a different result going into the end of the half.

“We were unlucky not to score and then Sterling came on and with his first touch it was 2-0 and it was very difficult from then on to kick on and keep pushing.

“I thought overall with the team’s performance it was an unfair result but I do have to say Liverpool were a lot more clinical than we were.”

He added: “It is flattering in a way that he (Brendan Rodgers) changes his formation just to play against Southampton.

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“I thought overall Southampton were dominating the entire first half and that’s why Liverpool changed their formation.

“I thought overall we were very unlucky and when you are unlucky and you are also playing against a player such as Suarez it is always going to be very difficult.

“If we had played with goals we would have won the game but we didn’t so it wasn’t to be.”

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8:45pm Sat 1 Mar 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

In lots of ways you are RIGHT Mauricio.

At half time SAINTS were in the ascendency and could have easily gone in level and then the FIGHT to WIN.

All the Posters that highlight we need to improve our DEFENCE are absolutely right. Both Wet Spam and Liverpool with ease created gilt edged chances to slot it into the net.

All the Posters that CALL FOR AN OUT AND OUT GOAL SCORER are right.

WE. HAVE DONE WELL this Season - but need more quality in our team to compete with the Top of the League.

I agree that Suarez does leave a leading leg - but it is also how you deal with that as a Defender.

THE GAME WAS FINELY BALANCED at half time - but every time you allow there fans to get on top and NOT DOMINATE WITH THE FOOTBALL GETTING GOALS AT HOME - then it is that finely balanced it changes everything.

AT PALACE - THE TEAM AND FANS MUST UP THEIR GAME - IT IS A GAME THAT WE. EXPECT AND MUST WIN.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON
In lots of ways you are RIGHT Mauricio. At half time SAINTS were in the ascendency and could have easily gone in level and then the FIGHT to WIN. All the Posters that highlight we need to improve our DEFENCE are absolutely right. Both Wet Spam and Liverpool with ease created gilt edged chances to slot it into the net. All the Posters that CALL FOR AN OUT AND OUT GOAL SCORER are right. WE. HAVE DONE WELL this Season - but need more quality in our team to compete with the Top of the League. I agree that Suarez does leave a leading leg - but it is also how you deal with that as a Defender. THE GAME WAS FINELY BALANCED at half time - but every time you allow there fans to get on top and NOT DOMINATE WITH THE FOOTBALL GETTING GOALS AT HOME - then it is that finely balanced it changes everything. AT PALACE - THE TEAM AND FANS MUST UP THEIR GAME - IT IS A GAME THAT WE. EXPECT AND MUST WIN. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON REDARMYRULETHESOUTH
  • Score: 18

8:48pm Sat 1 Mar 14

03alpe01 says...

No Poch, it was not unfair. We are lacking a striker and they have one of the best in the World.
No Poch, it was not unfair. We are lacking a striker and they have one of the best in the World. 03alpe01
  • Score: 13

8:49pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Saints n Winners says...

“If we had played with goals we would have won the game but we didn’t so it wasn’t to be.” ???? What does he mean here.

Unfair! Liverpool had 5 shots on target to our 2. How is that unfair. I know he has to manage the team's form at present - but I think he could have come up with a better line
“If we had played with goals we would have won the game but we didn’t so it wasn’t to be.” ???? What does he mean here. Unfair! Liverpool had 5 shots on target to our 2. How is that unfair. I know he has to manage the team's form at present - but I think he could have come up with a better line Saints n Winners
  • Score: 2

8:53pm Sat 1 Mar 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

We were the better team but they had Suarez and we didn't simples
We were the better team but they had Suarez and we didn't simples worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: 8

8:55pm Sat 1 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saints n Winners wrote:
“If we had played with goals we would have won the game but we didn’t so it wasn’t to be.” ???? What does he mean here.

Unfair! Liverpool had 5 shots on target to our 2. How is that unfair. I know he has to manage the team's form at present - but I think he could have come up with a better line
It is unfair because we are the nice guys and ought be treated better, sadly being nice in the Premier won't get results, MoPo is only saying what we were thinking, if we had gone in half time 3 1 up it would have been a totally different 2nd half, our finishing of late has quite frankly been garbage by all concerned and isn't acceptable at this level, Poch must address this in whatever way he think fit with the players that he has got to use.
[quote][p][bold]Saints n Winners[/bold] wrote: “If we had played with goals we would have won the game but we didn’t so it wasn’t to be.” ???? What does he mean here. Unfair! Liverpool had 5 shots on target to our 2. How is that unfair. I know he has to manage the team's form at present - but I think he could have come up with a better line[/p][/quote]It is unfair because we are the nice guys and ought be treated better, sadly being nice in the Premier won't get results, MoPo is only saying what we were thinking, if we had gone in half time 3 1 up it would have been a totally different 2nd half, our finishing of late has quite frankly been garbage by all concerned and isn't acceptable at this level, Poch must address this in whatever way he think fit with the players that he has got to use. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

8:58pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Santa Retfordia says...

The referee cost us that. He bottled two big decisions early doors.
The referee cost us that. He bottled two big decisions early doors. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 0

9:06pm Sat 1 Mar 14

JohnItaly says...

If I had known prior to the game that Saints were the only Premiership team Suarez hadn't scored against and he hadn't scored for several games then it was a certainty he would score. Just sorry I'm not betting man.
If I had known prior to the game that Saints were the only Premiership team Suarez hadn't scored against and he hadn't scored for several games then it was a certainty he would score. Just sorry I'm not betting man. JohnItaly
  • Score: 5

9:10pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Chris1991 says...

Hodgson has picked the wrong Saints full back.

Shaw had a nightmare today, but Chambers was excellent.
Hodgson has picked the wrong Saints full back. Shaw had a nightmare today, but Chambers was excellent. Chris1991
  • Score: 11

9:16pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness says...

“If we had played with goals we would have won the game but we didn’t so it wasn’t to be.” Awesome insight, Poch. You don't know what you're doing!
“If we had played with goals we would have won the game but we didn’t so it wasn’t to be.” Awesome insight, Poch. You don't know what you're doing! Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness
  • Score: -22

9:17pm Sat 1 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Chris1991 wrote:
Hodgson has picked the wrong Saints full back.

Shaw had a nightmare today, but Chambers was excellent.
Were we watching the same game? I thought Luke had a good game considering who he was up against, he did take a hell of a whack in the first half and I thought he looked a bit groggy a couple of times but he played through it. Chambo did a good job but didn't get to the byline once whereas I think Clyne may have.
[quote][p][bold]Chris1991[/bold] wrote: Hodgson has picked the wrong Saints full back. Shaw had a nightmare today, but Chambers was excellent.[/p][/quote]Were we watching the same game? I thought Luke had a good game considering who he was up against, he did take a hell of a whack in the first half and I thought he looked a bit groggy a couple of times but he played through it. Chambo did a good job but didn't get to the byline once whereas I think Clyne may have. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -4

9:19pm Sat 1 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
“If we had played with goals we would have won the game but we didn’t so it wasn’t to be.” Awesome insight, Poch. You don't know what you're doing!
Well in my opinion he makes a lot more sense than you do, but then you are just posting to wind people up aren't you?
[quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: “If we had played with goals we would have won the game but we didn’t so it wasn’t to be.” Awesome insight, Poch. You don't know what you're doing![/p][/quote]Well in my opinion he makes a lot more sense than you do, but then you are just posting to wind people up aren't you? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

9:21pm Sat 1 Mar 14

FindAndDestroy says...

We are conceding too many goals.. i don't know why Clyne was left out to be honest.....

Not happy at all...

JRod needs to hit ball harder....or find a killer instinct...

We really need to find that form we had at the beginning of the season...
We are conceding too many goals.. i don't know why Clyne was left out to be honest..... Not happy at all... JRod needs to hit ball harder....or find a killer instinct... We really need to find that form we had at the beginning of the season... FindAndDestroy
  • Score: 11

9:27pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Thecampster says...

Mo should go,
He's not even interested
Mo should go, He's not even interested Thecampster
  • Score: -27

9:30pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Jesus_02 says...

Weird game watching on tele...First goal was a bit of a freak, cant blame Fonte the ball struck him after a Lallana tackle. Second goal was inch perfect and the Third was a "well earned" pen (funny how strickers run liket hey have a barrel between their legs when they are in the box!

Saints wise there where positives but in my opinion Poch needs to swallow his pride and get a winger. We just didn't create quality chances
Weird game watching on tele...First goal was a bit of a freak, cant blame Fonte the ball struck him after a Lallana tackle. Second goal was inch perfect and the Third was a "well earned" pen (funny how strickers run liket hey have a barrel between their legs when they are in the box! Saints wise there where positives but in my opinion Poch needs to swallow his pride and get a winger. We just didn't create quality chances Jesus_02
  • Score: 7

9:30pm Sat 1 Mar 14

peregrine73 says...

It wasn't that we were unlucky, it was simply that Liverpool were better at finishing and there defence was stronger. Improve in these two fields and then we may challenge teams like Liverpool in the future.
It wasn't that we were unlucky, it was simply that Liverpool were better at finishing and there defence was stronger. Improve in these two fields and then we may challenge teams like Liverpool in the future. peregrine73
  • Score: 11

9:30pm Sat 1 Mar 14

David Crook says...

I take my hat off to Liverpool,they are a class act,we don't have a clue up front,and for Pochettino what was he thinking with those substitutions,the idea is to win the match not lose it,much as I like chambers,but saints missed Clynes pace on the right to-day,Johnson is still a class act at left back. there is no substitute for experience.
I take my hat off to Liverpool,they are a class act,we don't have a clue up front,and for Pochettino what was he thinking with those substitutions,the idea is to win the match not lose it,much as I like chambers,but saints missed Clynes pace on the right to-day,Johnson is still a class act at left back. there is no substitute for experience. David Crook
  • Score: 8

9:32pm Sat 1 Mar 14

rossofficial10 says...

Thecampster wrote:
Mo should go,
He's not even interested
yep pochettino looks untinerested and will go in the summer i think,

maybe malky mackay might be a good move
[quote][p][bold]Thecampster[/bold] wrote: Mo should go, He's not even interested[/p][/quote]yep pochettino looks untinerested and will go in the summer i think, maybe malky mackay might be a good move rossofficial10
  • Score: -22

9:32pm Sat 1 Mar 14

costa gaz says...

On that and recent weeks we will not a have many Saints players going to Brazil as some may think.
Rodrigues could not hit a cows ar$e with a banjo right now, (weeks ago I mentioned about his goals to chances stats, absolutely shocking now) lambert has lost half a yard of pace that he could not afford to lose,
At the back I'm afraid the fans favorite Fonte is costing us dearly, nowhere near good enough and I'd prefer Yoshida all day long.
Another day about how we bossed the game (58% possession) and were unlucky, if we cannot convert our chances we will not win..... nothing to do with bad luck.
Take nothing away from liverpool they were fantastic, but if we had strikers who hit the target occasionally could have been different........... imho.
On that and recent weeks we will not a have many Saints players going to Brazil as some may think. Rodrigues could not hit a cows ar$e with a banjo right now, (weeks ago I mentioned about his goals to chances stats, absolutely shocking now) lambert has lost half a yard of pace that he could not afford to lose, At the back I'm afraid the fans favorite Fonte is costing us dearly, nowhere near good enough and I'd prefer Yoshida all day long. Another day about how we bossed the game (58% possession) and were unlucky, if we cannot convert our chances we will not win..... nothing to do with bad luck. Take nothing away from liverpool they were fantastic, but if we had strikers who hit the target occasionally could have been different........... imho. costa gaz
  • Score: 16

9:35pm Sat 1 Mar 14

David Crook says...

FindAndDestroy wrote:
We are conceding too many goals.. i don't know why Clyne was left out to be honest.....

Not happy at all...

JRod needs to hit ball harder....or find a killer instinct...

We really need to find that form we had at the beginning of the season...
I have been saying it for ages,Rod,just hit the ball hard.
[quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote: We are conceding too many goals.. i don't know why Clyne was left out to be honest..... Not happy at all... JRod needs to hit ball harder....or find a killer instinct... We really need to find that form we had at the beginning of the season...[/p][/quote]I have been saying it for ages,Rod,just hit the ball hard. David Crook
  • Score: 6

9:37pm Sat 1 Mar 14

03alpe01 says...

Saints have a shooting problem. End of story.
Saints have a shooting problem. End of story. 03alpe01
  • Score: 6

9:39pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Thecampster says...

Poch says Saints defeat was unfair


How many excuses this clown want,

Sunderland,West Ham and now this,

Jeez,

Go now.
Poch says Saints defeat was unfair How many excuses this clown want, Sunderland,West Ham and now this, Jeez, Go now. Thecampster
  • Score: -25

9:39pm Sat 1 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

03alpe01 wrote:
Saints have a shooting problem. End of story.
More of a not shooting problem imo.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Saints have a shooting problem. End of story.[/p][/quote]More of a not shooting problem imo. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

9:40pm Sat 1 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Thecampster wrote:
Poch says Saints defeat was unfair


How many excuses this clown want,

Sunderland,West Ham and now this,

Jeez,

Go now.
Someone tweeted that Poch spend more time sat down than he used to, how bad was the game that a fan spent all his time watching the manager?
[quote][p][bold]Thecampster[/bold] wrote: Poch says Saints defeat was unfair How many excuses this clown want, Sunderland,West Ham and now this, Jeez, Go now.[/p][/quote]Someone tweeted that Poch spend more time sat down than he used to, how bad was the game that a fan spent all his time watching the manager? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -7

9:41pm Sat 1 Mar 14

David Crook says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
Weird game watching on tele...First goal was a bit of a freak, cant blame Fonte the ball struck him after a Lallana tackle. Second goal was inch perfect and the Third was a "well earned" pen (funny how strickers run liket hey have a barrel between their legs when they are in the box!

Saints wise there where positives but in my opinion Poch needs to swallow his pride and get a winger. We just didn't create quality chances
How long have I been saying it since we got rid of Puncheon.
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: Weird game watching on tele...First goal was a bit of a freak, cant blame Fonte the ball struck him after a Lallana tackle. Second goal was inch perfect and the Third was a "well earned" pen (funny how strickers run liket hey have a barrel between their legs when they are in the box! Saints wise there where positives but in my opinion Poch needs to swallow his pride and get a winger. We just didn't create quality chances[/p][/quote]How long have I been saying it since we got rid of Puncheon. David Crook
  • Score: -7

9:41pm Sat 1 Mar 14

saintbobby says...

So that's 3 defeats on the trot.

Again some of the play produced by the Saints was really top drawer and lovely to watch but something goes wrong in the penalty box. Unlucky to hit the post and all that, but players like Suarez do not seem to have the trouble we do - chance, bang and in the net!

Like a lot of others, I just wonder if that team selection at Sunderland has something to do with our problems. Got to move on, of course, but I reckon that match has upset the momentum.

Win at Palace will redress the situation, but really must win and should win, so let's hope Pulis et al decide on an off day.

An afterthought and going back in my mind over recent months, am I right that being live on TV does not seem to suit us? Camera shy, I reckon!
So that's 3 defeats on the trot. Again some of the play produced by the Saints was really top drawer and lovely to watch but something goes wrong in the penalty box. Unlucky to hit the post and all that, but players like Suarez do not seem to have the trouble we do - chance, bang and in the net! Like a lot of others, I just wonder if that team selection at Sunderland has something to do with our problems. Got to move on, of course, but I reckon that match has upset the momentum. Win at Palace will redress the situation, but really must win and should win, so let's hope Pulis et al decide on an off day. An afterthought and going back in my mind over recent months, am I right that being live on TV does not seem to suit us? Camera shy, I reckon! saintbobby
  • Score: 11

9:41pm Sat 1 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

David Crook wrote:
I take my hat off to Liverpool,they are a class act,we don't have a clue up front,and for Pochettino what was he thinking with those substitutions,the idea is to win the match not lose it,much as I like chambers,but saints missed Clynes pace on the right to-day,Johnson is still a class act at left back. there is no substitute for experience.
You wouldn't have been on here if the score had been the other way around!
[quote][p][bold]David Crook[/bold] wrote: I take my hat off to Liverpool,they are a class act,we don't have a clue up front,and for Pochettino what was he thinking with those substitutions,the idea is to win the match not lose it,much as I like chambers,but saints missed Clynes pace on the right to-day,Johnson is still a class act at left back. there is no substitute for experience.[/p][/quote]You wouldn't have been on here if the score had been the other way around! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -7

9:42pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Rank Xerox says...

Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone. Rank Xerox
  • Score: 18

9:45pm Sat 1 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintbobby wrote:
So that's 3 defeats on the trot.

Again some of the play produced by the Saints was really top drawer and lovely to watch but something goes wrong in the penalty box. Unlucky to hit the post and all that, but players like Suarez do not seem to have the trouble we do - chance, bang and in the net!

Like a lot of others, I just wonder if that team selection at Sunderland has something to do with our problems. Got to move on, of course, but I reckon that match has upset the momentum.

Win at Palace will redress the situation, but really must win and should win, so let's hope Pulis et al decide on an off day.

An afterthought and going back in my mind over recent months, am I right that being live on TV does not seem to suit us? Camera shy, I reckon!
We have an awful record when being shown on Sky, not so sure that applies to BT though, the worse thing about it is that we used to play best with a three o'clock kick off on a Saturday, probably pure coincidence and as usual I am spouting rubbish, but hey ho, I don't actually give a monkeys these days.
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: So that's 3 defeats on the trot. Again some of the play produced by the Saints was really top drawer and lovely to watch but something goes wrong in the penalty box. Unlucky to hit the post and all that, but players like Suarez do not seem to have the trouble we do - chance, bang and in the net! Like a lot of others, I just wonder if that team selection at Sunderland has something to do with our problems. Got to move on, of course, but I reckon that match has upset the momentum. Win at Palace will redress the situation, but really must win and should win, so let's hope Pulis et al decide on an off day. An afterthought and going back in my mind over recent months, am I right that being live on TV does not seem to suit us? Camera shy, I reckon![/p][/quote]We have an awful record when being shown on Sky, not so sure that applies to BT though, the worse thing about it is that we used to play best with a three o'clock kick off on a Saturday, probably pure coincidence and as usual I am spouting rubbish, but hey ho, I don't actually give a monkeys these days. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

9:45pm Sat 1 Mar 14

legod7 says...

If the referee hadn't bottled it and given us a penalty in the first half when Lallana was brought down it could have been a different game. There was less contact on Suarez for their penalty but because it was Liverpool he gave it. Ever decision by the referee was biased in favour to Liverpool.He never even gave a free kick when Flanagan nearly decapitated Shaw or when Johnson took Rodriguez out after he had played the ball.
If the referee hadn't bottled it and given us a penalty in the first half when Lallana was brought down it could have been a different game. There was less contact on Suarez for their penalty but because it was Liverpool he gave it. Ever decision by the referee was biased in favour to Liverpool.He never even gave a free kick when Flanagan nearly decapitated Shaw or when Johnson took Rodriguez out after he had played the ball. legod7
  • Score: 10

9:47pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Thecampster says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Thecampster wrote:
Poch says Saints defeat was unfair


How many excuses this clown want,

Sunderland,West Ham and now this,

Jeez,

Go now.
Someone tweeted that Poch spend more time sat down than he used to, how bad was the game that a fan spent all his time watching the manager?
Sad I,m sure,

But time for this guy to go I think.

All that money spent for what,

Wanyama. Ffs
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thecampster[/bold] wrote: Poch says Saints defeat was unfair How many excuses this clown want, Sunderland,West Ham and now this, Jeez, Go now.[/p][/quote]Someone tweeted that Poch spend more time sat down than he used to, how bad was the game that a fan spent all his time watching the manager?[/p][/quote]Sad I,m sure, But time for this guy to go I think. All that money spent for what, Wanyama. Ffs Thecampster
  • Score: -15

9:47pm Sat 1 Mar 14

03alpe01 says...

Rank Xerox wrote:
Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
yeah, noticed a lot of trouble in the Itchen fairly close to the Liverpool fans. Whole load of people got chucked out, you know what happened?
[quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.[/p][/quote]yeah, noticed a lot of trouble in the Itchen fairly close to the Liverpool fans. Whole load of people got chucked out, you know what happened? 03alpe01
  • Score: 2

9:49pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Chris1991 wrote:
Hodgson has picked the wrong Saints full back.

Shaw had a nightmare today, but Chambers was excellent.
I'd agree with that. Luke is class and, at times, showed what he's about, but he was, overall, poor, especially in the first half. Chambers on the other hand, (as far as I can remember) didn't put a foot wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Chris1991[/bold] wrote: Hodgson has picked the wrong Saints full back. Shaw had a nightmare today, but Chambers was excellent.[/p][/quote]I'd agree with that. Luke is class and, at times, showed what he's about, but he was, overall, poor, especially in the first half. Chambers on the other hand, (as far as I can remember) didn't put a foot wrong. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 7

9:50pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Rank Xerox says...

03alpe01 wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
yeah, noticed a lot of trouble in the Itchen fairly close to the Liverpool fans. Whole load of people got chucked out, you know what happened?
I was sat at the other end, most unpleasant.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.[/p][/quote]yeah, noticed a lot of trouble in the Itchen fairly close to the Liverpool fans. Whole load of people got chucked out, you know what happened?[/p][/quote]I was sat at the other end, most unpleasant. Rank Xerox
  • Score: 6

9:51pm Sat 1 Mar 14

right back in the bar says...

We just need to get the points now to finish on +50 if we do that and beat Newcastle, Everton and Utd into the bargain we can take great satisfaction from the season. That's the half full view. The half empty view is that the only player in this team who can open up defences is a left full back who will on his way in the summer; RL is finished, JRod can't hit a bar door from 5 yards, and we have a manager who thinks VW is the player to get us back from 0-2 and Chambers is better than NC.
We just need to get the points now to finish on +50 if we do that and beat Newcastle, Everton and Utd into the bargain we can take great satisfaction from the season. That's the half full view. The half empty view is that the only player in this team who can open up defences is a left full back who will on his way in the summer; RL is finished, JRod can't hit a bar door from 5 yards, and we have a manager who thinks VW is the player to get us back from 0-2 and Chambers is better than NC. right back in the bar
  • Score: 6

9:56pm Sat 1 Mar 14

callcopse says...

Rank Xerox wrote:
Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
I've noticed a few of those creeping back in recently - I can't stand them to be honest, it makes me really uncomfortable. I expect bad language and general offensiveness, that's fine whatever but racism - no. I'd suggest you called stewards or something but I have never done so myself. Perhaps I will do if I hear that nonsense again.

Anyone know what the disturbance was high up in the Itchen North?
[quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.[/p][/quote]I've noticed a few of those creeping back in recently - I can't stand them to be honest, it makes me really uncomfortable. I expect bad language and general offensiveness, that's fine whatever but racism - no. I'd suggest you called stewards or something but I have never done so myself. Perhaps I will do if I hear that nonsense again. Anyone know what the disturbance was high up in the Itchen North? callcopse
  • Score: 5

9:57pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

03alpe01 wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
yeah, noticed a lot of trouble in the Itchen fairly close to the Liverpool fans. Whole load of people got chucked out, you know what happened?
As you have his seat number, Rank Xerox, please report it to the club. If enough people who witnessed someone using racist language reported it, the club might take action.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.[/p][/quote]yeah, noticed a lot of trouble in the Itchen fairly close to the Liverpool fans. Whole load of people got chucked out, you know what happened?[/p][/quote]As you have his seat number, Rank Xerox, please report it to the club. If enough people who witnessed someone using racist language reported it, the club might take action. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 9

10:01pm Sat 1 Mar 14

peregrine73 says...

right back in the bar wrote:
We just need to get the points now to finish on +50 if we do that and beat Newcastle, Everton and Utd into the bargain we can take great satisfaction from the season. That's the half full view. The half empty view is that the only player in this team who can open up defences is a left full back who will on his way in the summer; RL is finished, JRod can't hit a bar door from 5 yards, and we have a manager who thinks VW is the player to get us back from 0-2 and Chambers is better than NC.
The only proble is we have to score to win matche!
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: We just need to get the points now to finish on +50 if we do that and beat Newcastle, Everton and Utd into the bargain we can take great satisfaction from the season. That's the half full view. The half empty view is that the only player in this team who can open up defences is a left full back who will on his way in the summer; RL is finished, JRod can't hit a bar door from 5 yards, and we have a manager who thinks VW is the player to get us back from 0-2 and Chambers is better than NC.[/p][/quote]The only proble is we have to score to win matche! peregrine73
  • Score: 6

10:01pm Sat 1 Mar 14

FindAndDestroy says...

costa gaz wrote:
On that and recent weeks we will not a have many Saints players going to Brazil as some may think.
Rodrigues could not hit a cows ar$e with a banjo right now, (weeks ago I mentioned about his goals to chances stats, absolutely shocking now) lambert has lost half a yard of pace that he could not afford to lose,
At the back I'm afraid the fans favorite Fonte is costing us dearly, nowhere near good enough and I'd prefer Yoshida all day long.
Another day about how we bossed the game (58% possession) and were unlucky, if we cannot convert our chances we will not win..... nothing to do with bad luck.
Take nothing away from liverpool they were fantastic, but if we had strikers who hit the target occasionally could have been different........... imho.
The second half was shocking, as if we were running out of steam....
We need a clinical finisher for sure....

had we scored at least one goal the morale of the team would have been boosted....

MoPo showing interest in Managing PSG doesnt inspire any confidence.. .......it raises all sort of questions...

You cant really tell what's going on in his mind, whether is going to leave or stay at the end of the season..
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: On that and recent weeks we will not a have many Saints players going to Brazil as some may think. Rodrigues could not hit a cows ar$e with a banjo right now, (weeks ago I mentioned about his goals to chances stats, absolutely shocking now) lambert has lost half a yard of pace that he could not afford to lose, At the back I'm afraid the fans favorite Fonte is costing us dearly, nowhere near good enough and I'd prefer Yoshida all day long. Another day about how we bossed the game (58% possession) and were unlucky, if we cannot convert our chances we will not win..... nothing to do with bad luck. Take nothing away from liverpool they were fantastic, but if we had strikers who hit the target occasionally could have been different........... imho.[/p][/quote]The second half was shocking, as if we were running out of steam.... We need a clinical finisher for sure.... had we scored at least one goal the morale of the team would have been boosted.... MoPo showing interest in Managing PSG doesnt inspire any confidence.. .......it raises all sort of questions... You cant really tell what's going on in his mind, whether is going to leave or stay at the end of the season.. FindAndDestroy
  • Score: 3

10:01pm Sat 1 Mar 14

TEBOURBA says...

As my great gran used to say to me --it's goals that count --- strange how, in all these years , it hasn't filtered through to allegedly, but not in my opinion, one of the best managers in the business.
Downhill all the way since Cortese resigned --- come back Cortese all is forgiven ---I misjudged you.
Sad but true ---- if no one is afraid of the Boss -- then nothing gets done, whether in a factory, on a building site, or in a Football Club..
As my great gran used to say to me --it's goals that count --- strange how, in all these years , it hasn't filtered through to allegedly, but not in my opinion, one of the best managers in the business. Downhill all the way since Cortese resigned --- come back Cortese all is forgiven ---I misjudged you. Sad but true ---- if no one is afraid of the Boss -- then nothing gets done, whether in a factory, on a building site, or in a Football Club.. TEBOURBA
  • Score: -9

10:07pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Mr BCB says...

At times Saints played very good football but on the whole Liverpool were the better team. .
At times Saints played very good football but on the whole Liverpool were the better team. . Mr BCB
  • Score: 2

10:07pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Velleity says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
As my great gran used to say to me --it's goals that count --- strange how, in all these years , it hasn't filtered through to allegedly, but not in my opinion, one of the best managers in the business.
Downhill all the way since Cortese resigned --- come back Cortese all is forgiven ---I misjudged you.
Sad but true ---- if no one is afraid of the Boss -- then nothing gets done, whether in a factory, on a building site, or in a Football Club..
It's back. That's really spoilt the day.
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: As my great gran used to say to me --it's goals that count --- strange how, in all these years , it hasn't filtered through to allegedly, but not in my opinion, one of the best managers in the business. Downhill all the way since Cortese resigned --- come back Cortese all is forgiven ---I misjudged you. Sad but true ---- if no one is afraid of the Boss -- then nothing gets done, whether in a factory, on a building site, or in a Football Club..[/p][/quote]It's back. That's really spoilt the day. Velleity
  • Score: 5

10:08pm Sat 1 Mar 14

DisplacedFan says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Thecampster wrote:
Poch says Saints defeat was unfair


How many excuses this clown want,

Sunderland,West Ham and now this,

Jeez,

Go now.
Someone tweeted that Poch spend more time sat down than he used to, how bad was the game that a fan spent all his time watching the manager?
Alan Pardew wished he'd spent more time sitting down!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thecampster[/bold] wrote: Poch says Saints defeat was unfair How many excuses this clown want, Sunderland,West Ham and now this, Jeez, Go now.[/p][/quote]Someone tweeted that Poch spend more time sat down than he used to, how bad was the game that a fan spent all his time watching the manager?[/p][/quote]Alan Pardew wished he'd spent more time sitting down! DisplacedFan
  • Score: 7

10:08pm Sat 1 Mar 14

right back in the bar says...

Yep heard that too - MP on his way in the summer.
Yep heard that too - MP on his way in the summer. right back in the bar
  • Score: -9

10:08pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Saints n Winners says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
As my great gran used to say to me --it's goals that count --- strange how, in all these years , it hasn't filtered through to allegedly, but not in my opinion, one of the best managers in the business.
Downhill all the way since Cortese resigned --- come back Cortese all is forgiven ---I misjudged you.
Sad but true ---- if no one is afraid of the Boss -- then nothing gets done, whether in a factory, on a building site, or in a Football Club..
Yes - Jose Mourinho seems to scare all of his players at all of his teams. Those cuddles he gives them have a deep and sinister underbelly
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: As my great gran used to say to me --it's goals that count --- strange how, in all these years , it hasn't filtered through to allegedly, but not in my opinion, one of the best managers in the business. Downhill all the way since Cortese resigned --- come back Cortese all is forgiven ---I misjudged you. Sad but true ---- if no one is afraid of the Boss -- then nothing gets done, whether in a factory, on a building site, or in a Football Club..[/p][/quote]Yes - Jose Mourinho seems to scare all of his players at all of his teams. Those cuddles he gives them have a deep and sinister underbelly Saints n Winners
  • Score: 1

10:09pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Thecampster says...

All this good fitba counts for nothing If you cant win games,

Mo must go I think,

How much has he spent?
All this good fitba counts for nothing If you cant win games, Mo must go I think, How much has he spent? Thecampster
  • Score: -12

10:09pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Santa Retfordia says...

callcopse wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
I've noticed a few of those creeping back in recently - I can't stand them to be honest, it makes me really uncomfortable. I expect bad language and general offensiveness, that's fine whatever but racism - no. I'd suggest you called stewards or something but I have never done so myself. Perhaps I will do if I hear that nonsense again. Anyone know what the disturbance was high up in the Itchen North?
Do it. Call them a tw@t and tell them to fcuk off out of our stadium. People will back you. We're Southampton and that behaviour is not how we roll.
[quote][p][bold]callcopse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.[/p][/quote]I've noticed a few of those creeping back in recently - I can't stand them to be honest, it makes me really uncomfortable. I expect bad language and general offensiveness, that's fine whatever but racism - no. I'd suggest you called stewards or something but I have never done so myself. Perhaps I will do if I hear that nonsense again. Anyone know what the disturbance was high up in the Itchen North?[/p][/quote]Do it. Call them a tw@t and tell them to fcuk off out of our stadium. People will back you. We're Southampton and that behaviour is not how we roll. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 2

10:11pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Rank Xerox says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
yeah, noticed a lot of trouble in the Itchen fairly close to the Liverpool fans. Whole load of people got chucked out, you know what happened?
As you have his seat number, Rank Xerox, please report it to the club. If enough people who witnessed someone using racist language reported it, the club might take action.
Will e-mail them tomorrow. I would have loved to have reported them to stewards (small girl sat behind me) but when they are half cut it is most intimidating.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.[/p][/quote]yeah, noticed a lot of trouble in the Itchen fairly close to the Liverpool fans. Whole load of people got chucked out, you know what happened?[/p][/quote]As you have his seat number, Rank Xerox, please report it to the club. If enough people who witnessed someone using racist language reported it, the club might take action.[/p][/quote]Will e-mail them tomorrow. I would have loved to have reported them to stewards (small girl sat behind me) but when they are half cut it is most intimidating. Rank Xerox
  • Score: 6

10:14pm Sat 1 Mar 14

costa gaz says...

As if things could not get any worse..... Osprey and Tebourba are back on this site after their self imposed exiles.
strange they re-appear on the same day mmmmmm?
As if things could not get any worse..... Osprey and Tebourba are back on this site after their self imposed exiles. strange they re-appear on the same day mmmmmm? costa gaz
  • Score: 21

10:18pm Sat 1 Mar 14

costa gaz says...

Rank Xerox wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
yeah, noticed a lot of trouble in the Itchen fairly close to the Liverpool fans. Whole load of people got chucked out, you know what happened?
As you have his seat number, Rank Xerox, please report it to the club. If enough people who witnessed someone using racist language reported it, the club might take action.
Will e-mail them tomorrow. I would have loved to have reported them to stewards (small girl sat behind me) but when they are half cut it is most intimidating.
You have their seat numbers, why not make an official complaint to the club.
There is no place for this behavior at Southampton FC.
[quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.[/p][/quote]yeah, noticed a lot of trouble in the Itchen fairly close to the Liverpool fans. Whole load of people got chucked out, you know what happened?[/p][/quote]As you have his seat number, Rank Xerox, please report it to the club. If enough people who witnessed someone using racist language reported it, the club might take action.[/p][/quote]Will e-mail them tomorrow. I would have loved to have reported them to stewards (small girl sat behind me) but when they are half cut it is most intimidating.[/p][/quote]You have their seat numbers, why not make an official complaint to the club. There is no place for this behavior at Southampton FC. costa gaz
  • Score: 4

10:19pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Thecampster says...

“If we had played with goals we would have won the game but we didn’t so it wasn’t to be.”


Mmmmm

Saints Manager,

Jeez
“If we had played with goals we would have won the game but we didn’t so it wasn’t to be.” Mmmmm Saints Manager, Jeez Thecampster
  • Score: -11

10:24pm Sat 1 Mar 14

FindAndDestroy says...

The only consolation price i am taking from this season is the fact that we are not fighting the relegation battle...
The only consolation price i am taking from this season is the fact that we are not fighting the relegation battle... FindAndDestroy
  • Score: 10

10:24pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Thecampster says...

Dont deflect guys, there may have been crowd problems, sure but been dealt with I presume?

Mo must go

Be Honest.
Dont deflect guys, there may have been crowd problems, sure but been dealt with I presume? Mo must go Be Honest. Thecampster
  • Score: -9

10:26pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Rank Xerox says...

FindAndDestroy wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
On that and recent weeks we will not a have many Saints players going to Brazil as some may think.
Rodrigues could not hit a cows ar$e with a banjo right now, (weeks ago I mentioned about his goals to chances stats, absolutely shocking now) lambert has lost half a yard of pace that he could not afford to lose,
At the back I'm afraid the fans favorite Fonte is costing us dearly, nowhere near good enough and I'd prefer Yoshida all day long.
Another day about how we bossed the game (58% possession) and were unlucky, if we cannot convert our chances we will not win..... nothing to do with bad luck.
Take nothing away from liverpool they were fantastic, but if we had strikers who hit the target occasionally could have been different........... imho.
The second half was shocking, as if we were running out of steam....
We need a clinical finisher for sure....

had we scored at least one goal the morale of the team would have been boosted....

MoPo showing interest in Managing PSG doesnt inspire any confidence.. .......it raises all sort of questions...

You cant really tell what's going on in his mind, whether is going to leave or stay at the end of the season..
With that and previous performances I'd hazard a guess he's off.
[quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: On that and recent weeks we will not a have many Saints players going to Brazil as some may think. Rodrigues could not hit a cows ar$e with a banjo right now, (weeks ago I mentioned about his goals to chances stats, absolutely shocking now) lambert has lost half a yard of pace that he could not afford to lose, At the back I'm afraid the fans favorite Fonte is costing us dearly, nowhere near good enough and I'd prefer Yoshida all day long. Another day about how we bossed the game (58% possession) and were unlucky, if we cannot convert our chances we will not win..... nothing to do with bad luck. Take nothing away from liverpool they were fantastic, but if we had strikers who hit the target occasionally could have been different........... imho.[/p][/quote]The second half was shocking, as if we were running out of steam.... We need a clinical finisher for sure.... had we scored at least one goal the morale of the team would have been boosted.... MoPo showing interest in Managing PSG doesnt inspire any confidence.. .......it raises all sort of questions... You cant really tell what's going on in his mind, whether is going to leave or stay at the end of the season..[/p][/quote]With that and previous performances I'd hazard a guess he's off. Rank Xerox
  • Score: -4

10:30pm Sat 1 Mar 14

FindAndDestroy says...

costa gaz wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
yeah, noticed a lot of trouble in the Itchen fairly close to the Liverpool fans. Whole load of people got chucked out, you know what happened?
As you have his seat number, Rank Xerox, please report it to the club. If enough people who witnessed someone using racist language reported it, the club might take action.
Will e-mail them tomorrow. I would have loved to have reported them to stewards (small girl sat behind me) but when they are half cut it is most intimidating.
You have their seat numbers, why not make an official complaint to the club.
There is no place for this behavior at Southampton FC.
Ye you r right ... That's a good idea get their seat's number and report them... we are the saints NOT sinners...
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.[/p][/quote]yeah, noticed a lot of trouble in the Itchen fairly close to the Liverpool fans. Whole load of people got chucked out, you know what happened?[/p][/quote]As you have his seat number, Rank Xerox, please report it to the club. If enough people who witnessed someone using racist language reported it, the club might take action.[/p][/quote]Will e-mail them tomorrow. I would have loved to have reported them to stewards (small girl sat behind me) but when they are half cut it is most intimidating.[/p][/quote]You have their seat numbers, why not make an official complaint to the club. There is no place for this behavior at Southampton FC.[/p][/quote]Ye you r right ... That's a good idea get their seat's number and report them... we are the saints NOT sinners... FindAndDestroy
  • Score: 9

10:31pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Thecampster says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Instead of deserving a win why dont you fukin get one MP. Why dont you **** off MP, fukin prik
Let him go,

Hes not that good a manager anyway,

WGS was better than him.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Instead of deserving a win why dont you fukin get one MP. Why dont you **** off MP, fukin prik[/p][/quote]Let him go, Hes not that good a manager anyway, WGS was better than him. Thecampster
  • Score: -25

10:34pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Costa Baz says...

For me, the turning point was the halftime substitution, Gaston on for Davis.
He looked really up for it, for all of 5 minutes, then seemed to exile himself to the right touch line and disappear. I just feel, if he is on the pitch, he needs to be more central. His appearance also seemed to affect Lallana's influence, as he seemed to stop drifting across the whole of the frontline, making it easier for him to be marked/caught in possession.
And without Davis' industry and covering, it meant that Cork and Spider were being stretched with Liverpool looking more dangerous, on the break, than they had throughout the first half.
Now, if we could find players with Gastón's ability and Davis' work rate, we'd be better placed to move further forward.
For me, the turning point was the halftime substitution, Gaston on for Davis. He looked really up for it, for all of 5 minutes, then seemed to exile himself to the right touch line and disappear. I just feel, if he is on the pitch, he needs to be more central. His appearance also seemed to affect Lallana's influence, as he seemed to stop drifting across the whole of the frontline, making it easier for him to be marked/caught in possession. And without Davis' industry and covering, it meant that Cork and Spider were being stretched with Liverpool looking more dangerous, on the break, than they had throughout the first half. Now, if we could find players with Gastón's ability and Davis' work rate, we'd be better placed to move further forward. Costa Baz
  • Score: 13

10:37pm Sat 1 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

good god their all back today aren't they!
good god their all back today aren't they! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 6

10:40pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Costa Baz wrote:
For me, the turning point was the halftime substitution, Gaston on for Davis.
He looked really up for it, for all of 5 minutes, then seemed to exile himself to the right touch line and disappear. I just feel, if he is on the pitch, he needs to be more central. His appearance also seemed to affect Lallana's influence, as he seemed to stop drifting across the whole of the frontline, making it easier for him to be marked/caught in possession.
And without Davis' industry and covering, it meant that Cork and Spider were being stretched with Liverpool looking more dangerous, on the break, than they had throughout the first half.
Now, if we could find players with Gastón's ability and Davis' work rate, we'd be better placed to move further forward.
I'd have given the first half team the first 15mins of the 2nd half to see how they did, they had the better of the first half after all. Gaston on for Davis will only work if Gaston creates or scores, for me it lessened our attacking threat rather than improving it.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: For me, the turning point was the halftime substitution, Gaston on for Davis. He looked really up for it, for all of 5 minutes, then seemed to exile himself to the right touch line and disappear. I just feel, if he is on the pitch, he needs to be more central. His appearance also seemed to affect Lallana's influence, as he seemed to stop drifting across the whole of the frontline, making it easier for him to be marked/caught in possession. And without Davis' industry and covering, it meant that Cork and Spider were being stretched with Liverpool looking more dangerous, on the break, than they had throughout the first half. Now, if we could find players with Gastón's ability and Davis' work rate, we'd be better placed to move further forward.[/p][/quote]I'd have given the first half team the first 15mins of the 2nd half to see how they did, they had the better of the first half after all. Gaston on for Davis will only work if Gaston creates or scores, for me it lessened our attacking threat rather than improving it. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 13

10:42pm Sat 1 Mar 14

FindAndDestroy says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Instead of deserving a win why dont you fukin get one MP. Why dont you **** off MP, fukin prik
You really need to chill out mate..... if you carry on like this heart condition and blood blood pressure will knocking on your door... :-)
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Instead of deserving a win why dont you fukin get one MP. Why dont you **** off MP, fukin prik[/p][/quote]You really need to chill out mate..... if you carry on like this heart condition and blood blood pressure will knocking on your door... :-) FindAndDestroy
  • Score: 16

10:58pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Baddesley Bill says...

I'm very disappointed with the result of course...but the scoreline was very unfair. Suarez was the difference today. If we had him up front the scoreline would have been a total reverse imo.

60mill is the price for that type of finishing in this league I reckon. Either that or we continue to grow our own...which we will.
I'm very disappointed with the result of course...but the scoreline was very unfair. Suarez was the difference today. If we had him up front the scoreline would have been a total reverse imo. 60mill is the price for that type of finishing in this league I reckon. Either that or we continue to grow our own...which we will. Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 7

11:03pm Sat 1 Mar 14

miltonarcher says...

saintbobby wrote:
So that's 3 defeats on the trot.

Again some of the play produced by the Saints was really top drawer and lovely to watch but something goes wrong in the penalty box. Unlucky to hit the post and all that, but players like Suarez do not seem to have the trouble we do - chance, bang and in the net!

Like a lot of others, I just wonder if that team selection at Sunderland has something to do with our problems. Got to move on, of course, but I reckon that match has upset the momentum.

Win at Palace will redress the situation, but really must win and should win, so let's hope Pulis et al decide on an off day.

An afterthought and going back in my mind over recent months, am I right that being live on TV does not seem to suit us? Camera shy, I reckon!
Yes, we had momentum prior to that cup game. Poch changed a winning team, the rest is history.
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: So that's 3 defeats on the trot. Again some of the play produced by the Saints was really top drawer and lovely to watch but something goes wrong in the penalty box. Unlucky to hit the post and all that, but players like Suarez do not seem to have the trouble we do - chance, bang and in the net! Like a lot of others, I just wonder if that team selection at Sunderland has something to do with our problems. Got to move on, of course, but I reckon that match has upset the momentum. Win at Palace will redress the situation, but really must win and should win, so let's hope Pulis et al decide on an off day. An afterthought and going back in my mind over recent months, am I right that being live on TV does not seem to suit us? Camera shy, I reckon![/p][/quote]Yes, we had momentum prior to that cup game. Poch changed a winning team, the rest is history. miltonarcher
  • Score: 12

11:06pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Cincinnati says...

We just need to find a quality striker this summer that can score off of half chances and a second quality center back to pair with Lovren and retain all our young talent and then we should be a real threat to clubs like Liverpool etc.
We just need to find a quality striker this summer that can score off of half chances and a second quality center back to pair with Lovren and retain all our young talent and then we should be a real threat to clubs like Liverpool etc. Cincinnati
  • Score: 7

11:11pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Paul TS says...

I know a lot of Liverpool fans got tickets from Saints fans who could not attend. I watched on tv and thought we played well, but ultimately no final product, which seems to be regular occurrence in open play these days. Need a striker with cutting edge (Danny Ings?) small errors in defence cost us dear! Not a big fan of Fonte, that's my opinion only. Also feel that manager, although has done well, lacks ability to change the game tactically.
I know a lot of Liverpool fans got tickets from Saints fans who could not attend. I watched on tv and thought we played well, but ultimately no final product, which seems to be regular occurrence in open play these days. Need a striker with cutting edge (Danny Ings?) small errors in defence cost us dear! Not a big fan of Fonte, that's my opinion only. Also feel that manager, although has done well, lacks ability to change the game tactically. Paul TS
  • Score: 6

11:14pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Paul TS says...

legod7 wrote:
If the referee hadn't bottled it and given us a penalty in the first half when Lallana was brought down it could have been a different game. There was less contact on Suarez for their penalty but because it was Liverpool he gave it. Ever decision by the referee was biased in favour to Liverpool.He never even gave a free kick when Flanagan nearly decapitated Shaw or when Johnson took Rodriguez out after he had played the ball.
Suarez was clever and dragged his back leg to make contact, Adam bounce off the defender and was one on one.
[quote][p][bold]legod7[/bold] wrote: If the referee hadn't bottled it and given us a penalty in the first half when Lallana was brought down it could have been a different game. There was less contact on Suarez for their penalty but because it was Liverpool he gave it. Ever decision by the referee was biased in favour to Liverpool.He never even gave a free kick when Flanagan nearly decapitated Shaw or when Johnson took Rodriguez out after he had played the ball.[/p][/quote]Suarez was clever and dragged his back leg to make contact, Adam bounce off the defender and was one on one. Paul TS
  • Score: -3

11:24pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Costa Baz says...

Just seen the penalty awarded to Stoke.

How many, like that, have we had turned down this season?
Just seen the penalty awarded to Stoke. How many, like that, have we had turned down this season? Costa Baz
  • Score: 3

11:26pm Sat 1 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
As if things could not get any worse..... Osprey and Tebourba are back on this site after their self imposed exiles.
strange they re-appear on the same day mmmmmm?
Now now, libel rules apply on this site.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: As if things could not get any worse..... Osprey and Tebourba are back on this site after their self imposed exiles. strange they re-appear on the same day mmmmmm?[/p][/quote]Now now, libel rules apply on this site. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -16

11:27pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Clever Dick says...

callcopse wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
I've noticed a few of those creeping back in recently - I can't stand them to be honest, it makes me really uncomfortable. I expect bad language and general offensiveness, that's fine whatever but racism - no. I'd suggest you called stewards or something but I have never done so myself. Perhaps I will do if I hear that nonsense again.

Anyone know what the disturbance was high up in the Itchen North?
The disturbance high up in the Kitchen was caused by Liverpool fans who couldn't keep their stupid mouths shut whilst sitting in the middle of home supporters. The stewards threw out five or six when they scored their first goal.
[quote][p][bold]callcopse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.[/p][/quote]I've noticed a few of those creeping back in recently - I can't stand them to be honest, it makes me really uncomfortable. I expect bad language and general offensiveness, that's fine whatever but racism - no. I'd suggest you called stewards or something but I have never done so myself. Perhaps I will do if I hear that nonsense again. Anyone know what the disturbance was high up in the Itchen North?[/p][/quote]The disturbance high up in the Kitchen was caused by Liverpool fans who couldn't keep their stupid mouths shut whilst sitting in the middle of home supporters. The stewards threw out five or six when they scored their first goal. Clever Dick
  • Score: 3

11:27pm Sat 1 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

having seen the Newcastle game on MOTD I`m even more happy that NC sacked pardew.
£100k fine and a formal warning by Newcastle and the FA have still got to deal with him.
having seen the Newcastle game on MOTD I`m even more happy that NC sacked pardew. £100k fine and a formal warning by Newcastle and the FA have still got to deal with him. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

11:28pm Sat 1 Mar 14

george chivers says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I'm very disappointed with the result of course...but the scoreline was very unfair. Suarez was the difference today. If we had him up front the scoreline would have been a total reverse imo.

60mill is the price for that type of finishing in this league I reckon. Either that or we continue to grow our own...which we will.
Agree with your first paragraph. Trouble is if we grew a player that good, we'd have to sell him. i.e. Shearer.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I'm very disappointed with the result of course...but the scoreline was very unfair. Suarez was the difference today. If we had him up front the scoreline would have been a total reverse imo. 60mill is the price for that type of finishing in this league I reckon. Either that or we continue to grow our own...which we will.[/p][/quote]Agree with your first paragraph. Trouble is if we grew a player that good, we'd have to sell him. i.e. Shearer. george chivers
  • Score: -1

11:29pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Clever Dick says...

Clever Dick wrote:
callcopse wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
I've noticed a few of those creeping back in recently - I can't stand them to be honest, it makes me really uncomfortable. I expect bad language and general offensiveness, that's fine whatever but racism - no. I'd suggest you called stewards or something but I have never done so myself. Perhaps I will do if I hear that nonsense again.

Anyone know what the disturbance was high up in the Itchen North?
The disturbance high up in the Kitchen was caused by Liverpool fans who couldn't keep their stupid mouths shut whilst sitting in the middle of home supporters. The stewards threw out five or six when they scored their first goal.
That's a good one for predictive text. For kitchen read Itchen.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]callcopse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.[/p][/quote]I've noticed a few of those creeping back in recently - I can't stand them to be honest, it makes me really uncomfortable. I expect bad language and general offensiveness, that's fine whatever but racism - no. I'd suggest you called stewards or something but I have never done so myself. Perhaps I will do if I hear that nonsense again. Anyone know what the disturbance was high up in the Itchen North?[/p][/quote]The disturbance high up in the Kitchen was caused by Liverpool fans who couldn't keep their stupid mouths shut whilst sitting in the middle of home supporters. The stewards threw out five or six when they scored their first goal.[/p][/quote]That's a good one for predictive text. For kitchen read Itchen. Clever Dick
  • Score: -2

11:32pm Sat 1 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
As my great gran used to say to me --it's goals that count --- strange how, in all these years , it hasn't filtered through to allegedly, but not in my opinion, one of the best managers in the business.
Downhill all the way since Cortese resigned --- come back Cortese all is forgiven ---I misjudged you.
Sad but true ---- if no one is afraid of the Boss -- then nothing gets done, whether in a factory, on a building site, or in a Football Club..
Ha. ha. you have changed, never realised that deep down you were really a closet NC supporter, but you may be right, that fear factor has gone. Just confirm that you aren't me and I will forgive you for all your past sins.....
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: As my great gran used to say to me --it's goals that count --- strange how, in all these years , it hasn't filtered through to allegedly, but not in my opinion, one of the best managers in the business. Downhill all the way since Cortese resigned --- come back Cortese all is forgiven ---I misjudged you. Sad but true ---- if no one is afraid of the Boss -- then nothing gets done, whether in a factory, on a building site, or in a Football Club..[/p][/quote]Ha. ha. you have changed, never realised that deep down you were really a closet NC supporter, but you may be right, that fear factor has gone. Just confirm that you aren't me and I will forgive you for all your past sins..... OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -13

11:35pm Sat 1 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
callcopse wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
I've noticed a few of those creeping back in recently - I can't stand them to be honest, it makes me really uncomfortable. I expect bad language and general offensiveness, that's fine whatever but racism - no. I'd suggest you called stewards or something but I have never done so myself. Perhaps I will do if I hear that nonsense again.

Anyone know what the disturbance was high up in the Itchen North?
The disturbance high up in the Kitchen was caused by Liverpool fans who couldn't keep their stupid mouths shut whilst sitting in the middle of home supporters. The stewards threw out five or six when they scored their first goal.
That's a good one for predictive text. For kitchen read Itchen.
It sometimes smells like a kitchen when they bring those awful Chicken Balti Pies in.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]callcopse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.[/p][/quote]I've noticed a few of those creeping back in recently - I can't stand them to be honest, it makes me really uncomfortable. I expect bad language and general offensiveness, that's fine whatever but racism - no. I'd suggest you called stewards or something but I have never done so myself. Perhaps I will do if I hear that nonsense again. Anyone know what the disturbance was high up in the Itchen North?[/p][/quote]The disturbance high up in the Kitchen was caused by Liverpool fans who couldn't keep their stupid mouths shut whilst sitting in the middle of home supporters. The stewards threw out five or six when they scored their first goal.[/p][/quote]That's a good one for predictive text. For kitchen read Itchen.[/p][/quote]It sometimes smells like a kitchen when they bring those awful Chicken Balti Pies in. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -12

11:38pm Sat 1 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Cincinnati wrote:
We just need to find a quality striker this summer that can score off of half chances and a second quality center back to pair with Lovren and retain all our young talent and then we should be a real threat to clubs like Liverpool etc.
Truth is we all wanted that in the January window, it was obvious to most of us anyway.
[quote][p][bold]Cincinnati[/bold] wrote: We just need to find a quality striker this summer that can score off of half chances and a second quality center back to pair with Lovren and retain all our young talent and then we should be a real threat to clubs like Liverpool etc.[/p][/quote]Truth is we all wanted that in the January window, it was obvious to most of us anyway. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -10

11:39pm Sat 1 Mar 14

swesaint says...

peregrine73 wrote:
It wasn't that we were unlucky, it was simply that Liverpool were better at finishing and there defence was stronger. Improve in these two fields and then we may challenge teams like Liverpool in the future.
But we beat them away and last 3 times at home
[quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: It wasn't that we were unlucky, it was simply that Liverpool were better at finishing and there defence was stronger. Improve in these two fields and then we may challenge teams like Liverpool in the future.[/p][/quote]But we beat them away and last 3 times at home swesaint
  • Score: 3

12:32am Sun 2 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Velleity wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
As my great gran used to say to me --it's goals that count --- strange how, in all these years , it hasn't filtered through to allegedly, but not in my opinion, one of the best managers in the business.
Downhill all the way since Cortese resigned --- come back Cortese all is forgiven ---I misjudged you.
Sad but true ---- if no one is afraid of the Boss -- then nothing gets done, whether in a factory, on a building site, or in a Football Club..
It's back. That's really spoilt the day.
Are you sure it is the real thing? Someone thought it was me, I know I post a lot of garbage, but this message from Tebourba is completely the reverse of what he has said in the past. I am totally confused either way.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: As my great gran used to say to me --it's goals that count --- strange how, in all these years , it hasn't filtered through to allegedly, but not in my opinion, one of the best managers in the business. Downhill all the way since Cortese resigned --- come back Cortese all is forgiven ---I misjudged you. Sad but true ---- if no one is afraid of the Boss -- then nothing gets done, whether in a factory, on a building site, or in a Football Club..[/p][/quote]It's back. That's really spoilt the day.[/p][/quote]Are you sure it is the real thing? Someone thought it was me, I know I post a lot of garbage, but this message from Tebourba is completely the reverse of what he has said in the past. I am totally confused either way. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -7

1:10am Sun 2 Mar 14

hedge end bob says...

Rank Xerox wrote:
Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
You don't say if you are a season ticket holder, if so if they are there again report them to the police or a steward. Our club will not allow this IF THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.
[quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.[/p][/quote]You don't say if you are a season ticket holder, if so if they are there again report them to the police or a steward. Our club will not allow this IF THEY KNOW ABOUT IT. hedge end bob
  • Score: 3

2:13am Sun 2 Mar 14

midlandsaint says...

Jeez, all these people calling for Pochs head. Are they for real or what?

We are currently 9th place in the Premier league!!! Much of our squad are young players who've come through our youth development set up or who were bought from the lower divisions when we played in the lower divisions.

Poch has made some mistakes, and made some dodgy decisions but he's done a bloody good job in my opinion.

We are not a top 4 club who are underperforming in 9th place. We are a club currently 8th places above where we finished last season.

Whether Poch intends to stay after the season or not it just seems ludicrous for people to start calling for his head when we don't win every game.
Jeez, all these people calling for Pochs head. Are they for real or what? We are currently 9th place in the Premier league!!! Much of our squad are young players who've come through our youth development set up or who were bought from the lower divisions when we played in the lower divisions. Poch has made some mistakes, and made some dodgy decisions but he's done a bloody good job in my opinion. We are not a top 4 club who are underperforming in 9th place. We are a club currently 8th places above where we finished last season. Whether Poch intends to stay after the season or not it just seems ludicrous for people to start calling for his head when we don't win every game. midlandsaint
  • Score: 18

2:20am Sun 2 Mar 14

midlandsaint says...

"We are not a top 4 club who are underperforming in 9th place. We are a club currently 8th places above where we finished last season."

We are not a top 4 club who are underperforming in 9th place. We are a club currently 5 places above where we finished last season.
"We are not a top 4 club who are underperforming in 9th place. We are a club currently 8th places above where we finished last season." We are not a top 4 club who are underperforming in 9th place. We are a club currently 5 places above where we finished last season. midlandsaint
  • Score: 14

3:21am Sun 2 Mar 14

Bob Barnes says...

What a sad bunch of so called supporters you lot are,just recently you had nothing but praise for Mo he was the best thing that happened for the club now look at your comments the majority of you make me sick nothing more than a bunch of wanakers
What a sad bunch of so called supporters you lot are,just recently you had nothing but praise for Mo he was the best thing that happened for the club now look at your comments the majority of you make me sick nothing more than a bunch of wanakers Bob Barnes
  • Score: 10

6:03am Sun 2 Mar 14

ctsaint says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I'm very disappointed with the result of course...but the scoreline was very unfair. Suarez was the difference today. If we had him up front the scoreline would have been a total reverse imo.

60mill is the price for that type of finishing in this league I reckon. Either that or we continue to grow our own...which we will.
I agree 100% , that was the difference! period.

All the garbage on here about Mopo , his attitude, his selections etc etc the general level of performances is utter utter balls!
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I'm very disappointed with the result of course...but the scoreline was very unfair. Suarez was the difference today. If we had him up front the scoreline would have been a total reverse imo. 60mill is the price for that type of finishing in this league I reckon. Either that or we continue to grow our own...which we will.[/p][/quote]I agree 100% , that was the difference! period. All the garbage on here about Mopo , his attitude, his selections etc etc the general level of performances is utter utter balls! ctsaint
  • Score: 5

7:39am Sun 2 Mar 14

Little Hitler says...

I hope MoPo doesn't get wind of some of these comments or he probably would walk. Shame on you you bunch of whingers, bad losers the lot of you.
I hope MoPo doesn't get wind of some of these comments or he probably would walk. Shame on you you bunch of whingers, bad losers the lot of you. Little Hitler
  • Score: 5

8:04am Sun 2 Mar 14

doos says...

I thought MoPo was world class and taking Southampton to the champions league. Pretty sure that's what I read on here a couple of months back. I said at the time those fans were n dream land. We are a mid to bottom Prem side. Next season will be a relegation battle as our best players will be sold and we will have to get another manager. WHY did we throw our best chance to win the FA cup in 20 years away!!
I thought MoPo was world class and taking Southampton to the champions league. Pretty sure that's what I read on here a couple of months back. I said at the time those fans were n dream land. We are a mid to bottom Prem side. Next season will be a relegation battle as our best players will be sold and we will have to get another manager. WHY did we throw our best chance to win the FA cup in 20 years away!! doos
  • Score: -3

8:05am Sun 2 Mar 14

Saintsayer II says...

According to the Sunday Mirror MoPo is off to Italy That would explain his apprent indifference just lately
According to the Sunday Mirror MoPo is off to Italy That would explain his apprent indifference just lately Saintsayer II
  • Score: 4

8:08am Sun 2 Mar 14

Rising_Son says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
According to the Sunday Mirror MoPo is off to Italy That would explain his apprent indifference just lately
Do you mean because he read the article?
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: According to the Sunday Mirror MoPo is off to Italy That would explain his apprent indifference just lately[/p][/quote]Do you mean because he read the article? Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

8:10am Sun 2 Mar 14

Rising_Son says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
According to the Sunday Mirror MoPo is off to Italy That would explain his apprent indifference just lately
Do you mean because he read the article?
Actually the Daily Mirror article doesn't say he's off to Italy. It says he might be off to Italy if the current manager of Inter messes up.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: According to the Sunday Mirror MoPo is off to Italy That would explain his apprent indifference just lately[/p][/quote]Do you mean because he read the article?[/p][/quote]Actually the Daily Mirror article doesn't say he's off to Italy. It says he might be off to Italy if the current manager of Inter messes up. Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

8:32am Sun 2 Mar 14

Saintsayer II says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
According to the Sunday Mirror MoPo is off to Italy That would explain his apprent indifference just lately
Do you mean because he read the article?
Actually the Daily Mirror article doesn't say he's off to Italy. It says he might be off to Italy if the current manager of Inter messes up.
It's the Sunday Mirror and they say insiders believe he will go and be replaced by garcia from Osassuna
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: According to the Sunday Mirror MoPo is off to Italy That would explain his apprent indifference just lately[/p][/quote]Do you mean because he read the article?[/p][/quote]Actually the Daily Mirror article doesn't say he's off to Italy. It says he might be off to Italy if the current manager of Inter messes up.[/p][/quote]It's the Sunday Mirror and they say insiders believe he will go and be replaced by garcia from Osassuna Saintsayer II
  • Score: 1

8:36am Sun 2 Mar 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Bob Barnes wrote:
What a sad bunch of so called supporters you lot are,just recently you had nothing but praise for Mo he was the best thing that happened for the club now look at your comments the majority of you make me sick nothing more than a bunch of wanakers
They're skates Bob don't get sucked in. They only appear after defeat never victory and they only post negative never positive.

I expect it's because their own team is facing exit from the entire football league. I do hope so, total annihilation, the final solution.
[quote][p][bold]Bob Barnes[/bold] wrote: What a sad bunch of so called supporters you lot are,just recently you had nothing but praise for Mo he was the best thing that happened for the club now look at your comments the majority of you make me sick nothing more than a bunch of wanakers[/p][/quote]They're skates Bob don't get sucked in. They only appear after defeat never victory and they only post negative never positive. I expect it's because their own team is facing exit from the entire football league. I do hope so, total annihilation, the final solution. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 1

8:39am Sun 2 Mar 14

Saintsayer II says...

We have all enjoyed some cracking games under MoPo but I have always said his system of play combined with the additional traing it requires is not sustainable for a whole season I still believe that to be the case

Therfore I would be quite happy to see him leave I don't believe we will get any better under him than we have this year We would probably finish between 8th and 12th every year under his regime

Can the new board attract a replacement of the required standard ? This could be the difference between having, or not having, NC at the helm
We have all enjoyed some cracking games under MoPo but I have always said his system of play combined with the additional traing it requires is not sustainable for a whole season I still believe that to be the case Therfore I would be quite happy to see him leave I don't believe we will get any better under him than we have this year We would probably finish between 8th and 12th every year under his regime Can the new board attract a replacement of the required standard ? This could be the difference between having, or not having, NC at the helm Saintsayer II
  • Score: 2

8:49am Sun 2 Mar 14

peregrine73 says...

swesaint wrote:
peregrine73 wrote:
It wasn't that we were unlucky, it was simply that Liverpool were better at finishing and there defence was stronger. Improve in these two fields and then we may challenge teams like Liverpool in the future.
But we beat them away and last 3 times at home
We beat them away when we were in the"honeymoon period",ie teams were still working out MP style of play.Now that has happened coupled with our rather expensive "flops" in the transfer market Has left us safe,but lacking in strength.
[quote][p][bold]swesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: It wasn't that we were unlucky, it was simply that Liverpool were better at finishing and there defence was stronger. Improve in these two fields and then we may challenge teams like Liverpool in the future.[/p][/quote]But we beat them away and last 3 times at home[/p][/quote]We beat them away when we were in the"honeymoon period",ie teams were still working out MP style of play.Now that has happened coupled with our rather expensive "flops" in the transfer market Has left us safe,but lacking in strength. peregrine73
  • Score: 2

8:51am Sun 2 Mar 14

mickey01 says...

hows about trying for chamakh from palace as a stiker maybe just to have a bit of compettition for the places
hows about trying for chamakh from palace as a stiker maybe just to have a bit of compettition for the places mickey01
  • Score: -9

8:54am Sun 2 Mar 14

JohnItaly says...

In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs.

In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.
In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs. In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com. JohnItaly
  • Score: 7

8:59am Sun 2 Mar 14

saintgibbo says...

Thecampster wrote:
Poch says Saints defeat was unfair


How many excuses this clown want,

Sunderland,West Ham and now this,

Jeez,

Go now.
The way i read it is this result flattered Liverpool and i agree. Up until the 70th minute i thought we still had a chance of getting something from the game.
Was it down to poor substitution decisions? Possibly
Was it down to lack of clinical finishing? Yes, even more possibly
Was it down to a lack of depth of squad? In my opinion this is the biggest factor. We don't have the luxury of the " bigger " clubs to make a big enough impact with class substitutions. This was proven when we went through our injury crisis.
Wanyama was just hitting form when he received his injury and now he is back to square one. With match fitness he will get better again i'm sure.
The pace we play at takes its toll eventually and its against the top teams this is going to notice most.
[quote][p][bold]Thecampster[/bold] wrote: Poch says Saints defeat was unfair How many excuses this clown want, Sunderland,West Ham and now this, Jeez, Go now.[/p][/quote]The way i read it is this result flattered Liverpool and i agree. Up until the 70th minute i thought we still had a chance of getting something from the game. Was it down to poor substitution decisions? Possibly Was it down to lack of clinical finishing? Yes, even more possibly Was it down to a lack of depth of squad? In my opinion this is the biggest factor. We don't have the luxury of the " bigger " clubs to make a big enough impact with class substitutions. This was proven when we went through our injury crisis. Wanyama was just hitting form when he received his injury and now he is back to square one. With match fitness he will get better again i'm sure. The pace we play at takes its toll eventually and its against the top teams this is going to notice most. saintgibbo
  • Score: 5

9:08am Sun 2 Mar 14

Costa Baz says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Costa Baz wrote: For me, the turning point was the halftime substitution, Gaston on for Davis. He looked really up for it, for all of 5 minutes, then seemed to exile himself to the right touch line and disappear. I just feel, if he is on the pitch, he needs to be more central. His appearance also seemed to affect Lallana's influence, as he seemed to stop drifting across the whole of the frontline, making it easier for him to be marked/caught in possession. And without Davis' industry and covering, it meant that Cork and Spider were being stretched with Liverpool looking more dangerous, on the break, than they had throughout the first half. Now, if we could find players with Gastón's ability and Davis' work rate, we'd be better placed to move further forward.
I'd have given the first half team the first 15mins of the 2nd half to see how they did, they had the better of the first half after all. Gaston on for Davis will only work if Gaston creates or scores, for me it lessened our attacking threat rather than improving it.
Agree that it weakened our attack. At 1-0 down, but in control at the end of the first half, we didn't need to chase the game. Just my opinion, but if Gaston is sent on that early, it should be as a replacement for one of the front three (on yesterday's performance Lambert) not a midfielder, unless we are going gung-ho and chasing a bigger deficit.
The change also had a massive impact on how the game panned out. First half Liverpool were reliant on trying to get balls over the top, because they couldn't play through us. Second half they had acres of space in the middle, and they used it to good effect.
As I said above, Cork and Spider were being pulled all over the place, covering gaps left by Davis not being there. The second goal epitomises this. Gerrard has too much time on the ball, the midfield is too spread out, giving Gerrard the space to pass through the middle. Lovren spots the problem, but times it badly in trying to get to the pass (probably due to lack of match fitness), and gets turned by Suarez, who puts it on a plate for an unmarked Sterling.
That second half should open the eyes of those supporters who don't understand what Davis brings to the side. But as I also said above, we need to find players with his defensive industry, that have more attacking flair.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: For me, the turning point was the halftime substitution, Gaston on for Davis. He looked really up for it, for all of 5 minutes, then seemed to exile himself to the right touch line and disappear. I just feel, if he is on the pitch, he needs to be more central. His appearance also seemed to affect Lallana's influence, as he seemed to stop drifting across the whole of the frontline, making it easier for him to be marked/caught in possession. And without Davis' industry and covering, it meant that Cork and Spider were being stretched with Liverpool looking more dangerous, on the break, than they had throughout the first half. Now, if we could find players with Gastón's ability and Davis' work rate, we'd be better placed to move further forward.[/p][/quote]I'd have given the first half team the first 15mins of the 2nd half to see how they did, they had the better of the first half after all. Gaston on for Davis will only work if Gaston creates or scores, for me it lessened our attacking threat rather than improving it.[/p][/quote]Agree that it weakened our attack. At 1-0 down, but in control at the end of the first half, we didn't need to chase the game. Just my opinion, but if Gaston is sent on that early, it should be as a replacement for one of the front three (on yesterday's performance Lambert) not a midfielder, unless we are going gung-ho and chasing a bigger deficit. The change also had a massive impact on how the game panned out. First half Liverpool were reliant on trying to get balls over the top, because they couldn't play through us. Second half they had acres of space in the middle, and they used it to good effect. As I said above, Cork and Spider were being pulled all over the place, covering gaps left by Davis not being there. The second goal epitomises this. Gerrard has too much time on the ball, the midfield is too spread out, giving Gerrard the space to pass through the middle. Lovren spots the problem, but times it badly in trying to get to the pass (probably due to lack of match fitness), and gets turned by Suarez, who puts it on a plate for an unmarked Sterling. That second half should open the eyes of those supporters who don't understand what Davis brings to the side. But as I also said above, we need to find players with his defensive industry, that have more attacking flair. Costa Baz
  • Score: 8

9:09am Sun 2 Mar 14

Rank Xerox says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
You don't say if you are a season ticket holder, if so if they are there again report them to the police or a steward. Our club will not allow this IF THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.
I'm not a season ticket but have been to most games and usually sit in block 10 but because every man and his dog wanted a ticket for this game I got tickets in 11 as there were 4 of us. Moving forwards if the only seats are near the bigots that I sat near yesterday I'll opt to watch on TV instead.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.[/p][/quote]You don't say if you are a season ticket holder, if so if they are there again report them to the police or a steward. Our club will not allow this IF THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.[/p][/quote]I'm not a season ticket but have been to most games and usually sit in block 10 but because every man and his dog wanted a ticket for this game I got tickets in 11 as there were 4 of us. Moving forwards if the only seats are near the bigots that I sat near yesterday I'll opt to watch on TV instead. Rank Xerox
  • Score: 1

9:14am Sun 2 Mar 14

Santa Retfordia says...

saintgibbo wrote:
Thecampster wrote:
Poch says Saints defeat was unfair


How many excuses this clown want,

Sunderland,West Ham and now this,

Jeez,

Go now.
The way i read it is this result flattered Liverpool and i agree. Up until the 70th minute i thought we still had a chance of getting something from the game.
Was it down to poor substitution decisions? Possibly
Was it down to lack of clinical finishing? Yes, even more possibly
Was it down to a lack of depth of squad? In my opinion this is the biggest factor. We don't have the luxury of the " bigger " clubs to make a big enough impact with class substitutions. This was proven when we went through our injury crisis.
Wanyama was just hitting form when he received his injury and now he is back to square one. With match fitness he will get better again i'm sure.
The pace we play at takes its toll eventually and its against the top teams this is going to notice most.
*Nail/head*

We gave it a very good go but ultimately we're still a young team only 20 months out of the Championship. Weirdly, our strike force isn't as good as Liverpool's but through sheer effort and excellent coaching we bossed most of that game.

Imagine what Poch can do with, say, £50m of of striking options next season.
[quote][p][bold]saintgibbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thecampster[/bold] wrote: Poch says Saints defeat was unfair How many excuses this clown want, Sunderland,West Ham and now this, Jeez, Go now.[/p][/quote]The way i read it is this result flattered Liverpool and i agree. Up until the 70th minute i thought we still had a chance of getting something from the game. Was it down to poor substitution decisions? Possibly Was it down to lack of clinical finishing? Yes, even more possibly Was it down to a lack of depth of squad? In my opinion this is the biggest factor. We don't have the luxury of the " bigger " clubs to make a big enough impact with class substitutions. This was proven when we went through our injury crisis. Wanyama was just hitting form when he received his injury and now he is back to square one. With match fitness he will get better again i'm sure. The pace we play at takes its toll eventually and its against the top teams this is going to notice most.[/p][/quote]*Nail/head* We gave it a very good go but ultimately we're still a young team only 20 months out of the Championship. Weirdly, our strike force isn't as good as Liverpool's but through sheer effort and excellent coaching we bossed most of that game. Imagine what Poch can do with, say, £50m of of striking options next season. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 0

9:26am Sun 2 Mar 14

derek james says...

Rank Xerox wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
You don't say if you are a season ticket holder, if so if they are there again report them to the police or a steward. Our club will not allow this IF THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.
I'm not a season ticket but have been to most games and usually sit in block 10 but because every man and his dog wanted a ticket for this game I got tickets in 11 as there were 4 of us. Moving forwards if the only seats are near the bigots that I sat near yesterday I'll opt to watch on TV instead.
get over it, anyone who watched in the 70's and 80's heard far worse!
[quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.[/p][/quote]You don't say if you are a season ticket holder, if so if they are there again report them to the police or a steward. Our club will not allow this IF THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.[/p][/quote]I'm not a season ticket but have been to most games and usually sit in block 10 but because every man and his dog wanted a ticket for this game I got tickets in 11 as there were 4 of us. Moving forwards if the only seats are near the bigots that I sat near yesterday I'll opt to watch on TV instead.[/p][/quote]get over it, anyone who watched in the 70's and 80's heard far worse! derek james
  • Score: -5

9:34am Sun 2 Mar 14

Santa Retfordia says...

derek james wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
You don't say if you are a season ticket holder, if so if they are there again report them to the police or a steward. Our club will not allow this IF THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.
I'm not a season ticket but have been to most games and usually sit in block 10 but because every man and his dog wanted a ticket for this game I got tickets in 11 as there were 4 of us. Moving forwards if the only seats are near the bigots that I sat near yesterday I'll opt to watch on TV instead.
get over it, anyone who watched in the 70's and 80's heard far worse!
Really?
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.[/p][/quote]You don't say if you are a season ticket holder, if so if they are there again report them to the police or a steward. Our club will not allow this IF THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.[/p][/quote]I'm not a season ticket but have been to most games and usually sit in block 10 but because every man and his dog wanted a ticket for this game I got tickets in 11 as there were 4 of us. Moving forwards if the only seats are near the bigots that I sat near yesterday I'll opt to watch on TV instead.[/p][/quote]get over it, anyone who watched in the 70's and 80's heard far worse![/p][/quote]Really? Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 1

9:36am Sun 2 Mar 14

Positively4thStreet says...

mickey01 wrote:
hows about trying for chamakh from palace as a stiker maybe just to have a bit of compettition for the places
Missed the consolidation boat in the January transfer window,but NC did have other things on his mind at the time.
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: hows about trying for chamakh from palace as a stiker maybe just to have a bit of compettition for the places[/p][/quote]Missed the consolidation boat in the January transfer window,but NC did have other things on his mind at the time. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

9:40am Sun 2 Mar 14

NC Fan4Life says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Chris1991 wrote:
Hodgson has picked the wrong Saints full back.

Shaw had a nightmare today, but Chambers was excellent.
Were we watching the same game? I thought Luke had a good game considering who he was up against, he did take a hell of a whack in the first half and I thought he looked a bit groggy a couple of times but he played through it. Chambo did a good job but didn't get to the byline once whereas I think Clyne may have.
Not sure we were all watching the same game. Luke had a good game but Callum along with Adam were our best two performers.
Clyne is good but Chambers is there on merit, MoPo could try playing both, one in front of the other to get more crosses in from the right, something we don't get enough of from our wide midfielders.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris1991[/bold] wrote: Hodgson has picked the wrong Saints full back. Shaw had a nightmare today, but Chambers was excellent.[/p][/quote]Were we watching the same game? I thought Luke had a good game considering who he was up against, he did take a hell of a whack in the first half and I thought he looked a bit groggy a couple of times but he played through it. Chambo did a good job but didn't get to the byline once whereas I think Clyne may have.[/p][/quote]Not sure we were all watching the same game. Luke had a good game but Callum along with Adam were our best two performers. Clyne is good but Chambers is there on merit, MoPo could try playing both, one in front of the other to get more crosses in from the right, something we don't get enough of from our wide midfielders. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 3

9:44am Sun 2 Mar 14

alanrr says...

03alpe01 wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
yeah, noticed a lot of trouble in the Itchen fairly close to the Liverpool fans. Whole load of people got chucked out, you know what happened?
yeah that was 2 rows behind me, itchen block 4, a number of Liverpool fans jumping up and down cheering so got thrown out..........and a bit later, further away, a similar incident
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.[/p][/quote]yeah, noticed a lot of trouble in the Itchen fairly close to the Liverpool fans. Whole load of people got chucked out, you know what happened?[/p][/quote]yeah that was 2 rows behind me, itchen block 4, a number of Liverpool fans jumping up and down cheering so got thrown out..........and a bit later, further away, a similar incident alanrr
  • Score: 1

9:44am Sun 2 Mar 14

Rising_Son says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
According to the Sunday Mirror MoPo is off to Italy That would explain his apprent indifference just lately
Do you mean because he read the article?
Actually the Daily Mirror article doesn't say he's off to Italy. It says he might be off to Italy if the current manager of Inter messes up.
It's the Sunday Mirror and they say insiders believe he will go and be replaced by garcia from Osassuna
Is the article different from this one? (http://www.mirror.c
o.uk/sport/football/
news/mauricio-pochet
tinos-southampton-fu
ture-still-3196822?)
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: According to the Sunday Mirror MoPo is off to Italy That would explain his apprent indifference just lately[/p][/quote]Do you mean because he read the article?[/p][/quote]Actually the Daily Mirror article doesn't say he's off to Italy. It says he might be off to Italy if the current manager of Inter messes up.[/p][/quote]It's the Sunday Mirror and they say insiders believe he will go and be replaced by garcia from Osassuna[/p][/quote]Is the article different from this one? (http://www.mirror.c o.uk/sport/football/ news/mauricio-pochet tinos-southampton-fu ture-still-3196822?) Rising_Son
  • Score: -1

9:45am Sun 2 Mar 14

Costa Baz says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
We have all enjoyed some cracking games under MoPo but I have always said his system of play combined with the additional traing it requires is not sustainable for a whole season I still believe that to be the case Therfore I would be quite happy to see him leave I don't believe we will get any better under him than we have this year We would probably finish between 8th and 12th every year under his regime Can the new board attract a replacement of the required standard ? This could be the difference between having, or not having, NC at the helm
I believe this style is sustainable, over a season.
The only thing lacking is the better quality players that would turn the possession into clear cut chances and goals. In recent games, we have spent too much time chasing games, as a result of missing chances, which is why IMO, we sometimes appear laboured. Compare that to the games when we have been comfortably ahead and cruised through the 90 minutes, using the same style of
Rome wasn't built in a day, and we are still a work in progress, but unless the current squad can improve on the above, it will need, IMO, 3 new attacking players, during the summer.
One to replace/interchange with SRL, who despite being our most influential player with goals and assists, seems to be becoming a peripheral figure in many games.
And two in the same mould as Lallana, players that can hold the ball, run at players, create and score goals.
I, for one, would be disappointed if MP moved on, and our style of play changed as I can't remember any other season, when the "big teams" have had to adjust or alter their usual style of play, in order to cancel us out.
Solve the scoring consistency, and we WILL threaten the top four, playing this way.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: We have all enjoyed some cracking games under MoPo but I have always said his system of play combined with the additional traing it requires is not sustainable for a whole season I still believe that to be the case Therfore I would be quite happy to see him leave I don't believe we will get any better under him than we have this year We would probably finish between 8th and 12th every year under his regime Can the new board attract a replacement of the required standard ? This could be the difference between having, or not having, NC at the helm[/p][/quote]I believe this style is sustainable, over a season. The only thing lacking is the better quality players that would turn the possession into clear cut chances and goals. In recent games, we have spent too much time chasing games, as a result of missing chances, which is why IMO, we sometimes appear laboured. Compare that to the games when we have been comfortably ahead and cruised through the 90 minutes, using the same style of Rome wasn't built in a day, and we are still a work in progress, but unless the current squad can improve on the above, it will need, IMO, 3 new attacking players, during the summer. One to replace/interchange with SRL, who despite being our most influential player with goals and assists, seems to be becoming a peripheral figure in many games. And two in the same mould as Lallana, players that can hold the ball, run at players, create and score goals. I, for one, would be disappointed if MP moved on, and our style of play changed as I can't remember any other season, when the "big teams" have had to adjust or alter their usual style of play, in order to cancel us out. Solve the scoring consistency, and we WILL threaten the top four, playing this way. Costa Baz
  • Score: 9

9:45am Sun 2 Mar 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
derek james wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
You don't say if you are a season ticket holder, if so if they are there again report them to the police or a steward. Our club will not allow this IF THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.
I'm not a season ticket but have been to most games and usually sit in block 10 but because every man and his dog wanted a ticket for this game I got tickets in 11 as there were 4 of us. Moving forwards if the only seats are near the bigots that I sat near yesterday I'll opt to watch on TV instead.
get over it, anyone who watched in the 70's and 80's heard far worse!
Really?
Should'a tried standing in the middle of the Milton road boot boys!
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.[/p][/quote]You don't say if you are a season ticket holder, if so if they are there again report them to the police or a steward. Our club will not allow this IF THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.[/p][/quote]I'm not a season ticket but have been to most games and usually sit in block 10 but because every man and his dog wanted a ticket for this game I got tickets in 11 as there were 4 of us. Moving forwards if the only seats are near the bigots that I sat near yesterday I'll opt to watch on TV instead.[/p][/quote]get over it, anyone who watched in the 70's and 80's heard far worse![/p][/quote]Really?[/p][/quote]Should'a tried standing in the middle of the Milton road boot boys! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

10:06am Sun 2 Mar 14

BracknellSaint says...

midlandsaint wrote:
Jeez, all these people calling for Pochs head. Are they for real or what?

We are currently 9th place in the Premier league!!! Much of our squad are young players who've come through our youth development set up or who were bought from the lower divisions when we played in the lower divisions.

Poch has made some mistakes, and made some dodgy decisions but he's done a bloody good job in my opinion.

We are not a top 4 club who are underperforming in 9th place. We are a club currently 8th places above where we finished last season.

Whether Poch intends to stay after the season or not it just seems ludicrous for people to start calling for his head when we don't win every game.
At last some common sense.
We are comfortably in the top ten in the most competitive league in the world right now.
Last season was first back in the top flight for 7 years, and only a couple of seasons before we were down in League One for god's sake!
We are bringing through a bunch of young lads of huge potential, we are playing lovely football, and are watching the best Saints side since the turn of the 80's, with the potential to get even better.
So we lost against the team now second? We might have won with better finishing? The scoreline didn't reflect the game, and the ref might have given us a first half penalty that could have changed things too...
Not a bad way to lose, if you have to in my book. Rather that than be outplayed, looking desperately short of quality and confidence, and fighting relegation..
Until we are able to make the levels of investment needed to break into the top 6, which would be the ability to bring in several 20 million plus players, on 100k a week, our realistic position is going to be top ten- and I'd be more than happy to have that for the next ten years!!
[quote][p][bold]midlandsaint[/bold] wrote: Jeez, all these people calling for Pochs head. Are they for real or what? We are currently 9th place in the Premier league!!! Much of our squad are young players who've come through our youth development set up or who were bought from the lower divisions when we played in the lower divisions. Poch has made some mistakes, and made some dodgy decisions but he's done a bloody good job in my opinion. We are not a top 4 club who are underperforming in 9th place. We are a club currently 8th places above where we finished last season. Whether Poch intends to stay after the season or not it just seems ludicrous for people to start calling for his head when we don't win every game.[/p][/quote]At last some common sense. We are comfortably in the top ten in the most competitive league in the world right now. Last season was first back in the top flight for 7 years, and only a couple of seasons before we were down in League One for god's sake! We are bringing through a bunch of young lads of huge potential, we are playing lovely football, and are watching the best Saints side since the turn of the 80's, with the potential to get even better. So we lost against the team now second? We might have won with better finishing? The scoreline didn't reflect the game, and the ref might have given us a first half penalty that could have changed things too... Not a bad way to lose, if you have to in my book. Rather that than be outplayed, looking desperately short of quality and confidence, and fighting relegation.. Until we are able to make the levels of investment needed to break into the top 6, which would be the ability to bring in several 20 million plus players, on 100k a week, our realistic position is going to be top ten- and I'd be more than happy to have that for the next ten years!! BracknellSaint
  • Score: 8

10:13am Sun 2 Mar 14

Littleton-Saint says...

03alpe01 wrote:
No Poch, it was not unfair. We are lacking a striker and they have one of the best in the World.
We are lacking in defence, too, i.m.o..
Top CB, pacy winger and proven international striker
required in the summer, if we are to have a chance
of winning something. Rickie is at the tail-end of his career and J-Rod
squanders too many chances.

Fonte did not foul Suarez for the penalty - one
wonders how four officials thought that he had.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: No Poch, it was not unfair. We are lacking a striker and they have one of the best in the World.[/p][/quote]We are lacking in defence, too, i.m.o.. Top CB, pacy winger and proven international striker required in the summer, if we are to have a chance of winning something. Rickie is at the tail-end of his career and J-Rod squanders too many chances. Fonte did not foul Suarez for the penalty - one wonders how four officials thought that he had. Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 4

10:16am Sun 2 Mar 14

Sally Hamilton Original says...

What is wrong with you "Mo Po should go".... Unbelievable...Lverp
ool have torn teams apart this season and we actually did really well against them. We are not a top 7 club at the moment or anywhere near champions league. We have known for some time we are desperate for a striker that can put chances away... J Rod has improved BUT is still only putting away about 1 in 10 chances, we lack someone like a sterling that can really rip through teams. To suggest MoPo goes is absolutely naive. If we go for managers like Malkay McKay etc you can forget about playing the type of football we do now. We just need to ship out 2 or 3 players and get in the same amount spending an extra £20m and we will have a great team. We are not far off it. I think the players as they did last year have taken their foot off slightly thats it. They need a bit of a kick. We have some games coming up that are winnable and no sensible person would have expected a win yesterday. Get behind your team for the next few games because we still are not safe and the players need supporters not whingers!
What is wrong with you "Mo Po should go".... Unbelievable...Lverp ool have torn teams apart this season and we actually did really well against them. We are not a top 7 club at the moment or anywhere near champions league. We have known for some time we are desperate for a striker that can put chances away... J Rod has improved BUT is still only putting away about 1 in 10 chances, we lack someone like a sterling that can really rip through teams. To suggest MoPo goes is absolutely naive. If we go for managers like Malkay McKay etc you can forget about playing the type of football we do now. We just need to ship out 2 or 3 players and get in the same amount spending an extra £20m and we will have a great team. We are not far off it. I think the players as they did last year have taken their foot off slightly thats it. They need a bit of a kick. We have some games coming up that are winnable and no sensible person would have expected a win yesterday. Get behind your team for the next few games because we still are not safe and the players need supporters not whingers! Sally Hamilton Original
  • Score: 4

10:17am Sun 2 Mar 14

Positively4thStreet says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
midlandsaint wrote:
Jeez, all these people calling for Pochs head. Are they for real or what?

We are currently 9th place in the Premier league!!! Much of our squad are young players who've come through our youth development set up or who were bought from the lower divisions when we played in the lower divisions.

Poch has made some mistakes, and made some dodgy decisions but he's done a bloody good job in my opinion.

We are not a top 4 club who are underperforming in 9th place. We are a club currently 8th places above where we finished last season.

Whether Poch intends to stay after the season or not it just seems ludicrous for people to start calling for his head when we don't win every game.
At last some common sense.
We are comfortably in the top ten in the most competitive league in the world right now.
Last season was first back in the top flight for 7 years, and only a couple of seasons before we were down in League One for god's sake!
We are bringing through a bunch of young lads of huge potential, we are playing lovely football, and are watching the best Saints side since the turn of the 80's, with the potential to get even better.
So we lost against the team now second? We might have won with better finishing? The scoreline didn't reflect the game, and the ref might have given us a first half penalty that could have changed things too...
Not a bad way to lose, if you have to in my book. Rather that than be outplayed, looking desperately short of quality and confidence, and fighting relegation..
Until we are able to make the levels of investment needed to break into the top 6, which would be the ability to bring in several 20 million plus players, on 100k a week, our realistic position is going to be top ten- and I'd be more than happy to have that for the next ten years!!
Thar's a lovely theory Bracknell and I agree with you whole heartedly,but we live in an age of instant gratification now,where anything less than total success, is considered failure.
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]midlandsaint[/bold] wrote: Jeez, all these people calling for Pochs head. Are they for real or what? We are currently 9th place in the Premier league!!! Much of our squad are young players who've come through our youth development set up or who were bought from the lower divisions when we played in the lower divisions. Poch has made some mistakes, and made some dodgy decisions but he's done a bloody good job in my opinion. We are not a top 4 club who are underperforming in 9th place. We are a club currently 8th places above where we finished last season. Whether Poch intends to stay after the season or not it just seems ludicrous for people to start calling for his head when we don't win every game.[/p][/quote]At last some common sense. We are comfortably in the top ten in the most competitive league in the world right now. Last season was first back in the top flight for 7 years, and only a couple of seasons before we were down in League One for god's sake! We are bringing through a bunch of young lads of huge potential, we are playing lovely football, and are watching the best Saints side since the turn of the 80's, with the potential to get even better. So we lost against the team now second? We might have won with better finishing? The scoreline didn't reflect the game, and the ref might have given us a first half penalty that could have changed things too... Not a bad way to lose, if you have to in my book. Rather that than be outplayed, looking desperately short of quality and confidence, and fighting relegation.. Until we are able to make the levels of investment needed to break into the top 6, which would be the ability to bring in several 20 million plus players, on 100k a week, our realistic position is going to be top ten- and I'd be more than happy to have that for the next ten years!![/p][/quote]Thar's a lovely theory Bracknell and I agree with you whole heartedly,but we live in an age of instant gratification now,where anything less than total success, is considered failure. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

10:26am Sun 2 Mar 14

mack chinnon says...

I blame Guly.
I blame Guly. mack chinnon
  • Score: 5

10:27am Sun 2 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

peregrine73 wrote:
swesaint wrote:
peregrine73 wrote:
It wasn't that we were unlucky, it was simply that Liverpool were better at finishing and there defence was stronger. Improve in these two fields and then we may challenge teams like Liverpool in the future.
But we beat them away and last 3 times at home
We beat them away when we were in the"honeymoon period",ie teams were still working out MP style of play.Now that has happened coupled with our rather expensive "flops" in the transfer market Has left us safe,but lacking in strength.
Our honeymoon period would have been this time last year not when the new season started, unless MP organised a second honeymoon for us without letting us know (the little rascal).
Teams shouldn't have still been working us out when the season started, we have played the same way since Jan last year. Other clubs had the end of last season and the whole of the Sumer to 'work us out' and yet even then we still did superb. We even had the 2 expensive flops, you claim we have, in our squad/team back then. I will give you Dani as a flop but the fault lies entirely with him for that. I'm guessing you are also calling Big Vic a flop? If so its strange that our dip in form has completely coincided with his injury!
The reason we beat Liverpool away is the same reason they beat us yesterday, Suarez. He couldn't play up there because he decied to audition for world war z at the end of last season. As much as I don't like him Suarez is a world class player who would cost over £70mill if you wanted him. We cant affOrd anything like that and thats the difference between the top 4 and the rest. Spuds spent £100mill+ in the summer and have a big squad yet they are struggling to get near the top 4.
[quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: It wasn't that we were unlucky, it was simply that Liverpool were better at finishing and there defence was stronger. Improve in these two fields and then we may challenge teams like Liverpool in the future.[/p][/quote]But we beat them away and last 3 times at home[/p][/quote]We beat them away when we were in the"honeymoon period",ie teams were still working out MP style of play.Now that has happened coupled with our rather expensive "flops" in the transfer market Has left us safe,but lacking in strength.[/p][/quote]Our honeymoon period would have been this time last year not when the new season started, unless MP organised a second honeymoon for us without letting us know (the little rascal). Teams shouldn't have still been working us out when the season started, we have played the same way since Jan last year. Other clubs had the end of last season and the whole of the Sumer to 'work us out' and yet even then we still did superb. We even had the 2 expensive flops, you claim we have, in our squad/team back then. I will give you Dani as a flop but the fault lies entirely with him for that. I'm guessing you are also calling Big Vic a flop? If so its strange that our dip in form has completely coincided with his injury! The reason we beat Liverpool away is the same reason they beat us yesterday, Suarez. He couldn't play up there because he decied to audition for world war z at the end of last season. As much as I don't like him Suarez is a world class player who would cost over £70mill if you wanted him. We cant affOrd anything like that and thats the difference between the top 4 and the rest. Spuds spent £100mill+ in the summer and have a big squad yet they are struggling to get near the top 4. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

10:27am Sun 2 Mar 14

Rising_Son says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
midlandsaint wrote:
Jeez, all these people calling for Pochs head. Are they for real or what?

We are currently 9th place in the Premier league!!! Much of our squad are young players who've come through our youth development set up or who were bought from the lower divisions when we played in the lower divisions.

Poch has made some mistakes, and made some dodgy decisions but he's done a bloody good job in my opinion.

We are not a top 4 club who are underperforming in 9th place. We are a club currently 8th places above where we finished last season.

Whether Poch intends to stay after the season or not it just seems ludicrous for people to start calling for his head when we don't win every game.
At last some common sense.
We are comfortably in the top ten in the most competitive league in the world right now.
Last season was first back in the top flight for 7 years, and only a couple of seasons before we were down in League One for god's sake!
We are bringing through a bunch of young lads of huge potential, we are playing lovely football, and are watching the best Saints side since the turn of the 80's, with the potential to get even better.
So we lost against the team now second? We might have won with better finishing? The scoreline didn't reflect the game, and the ref might have given us a first half penalty that could have changed things too...
Not a bad way to lose, if you have to in my book. Rather that than be outplayed, looking desperately short of quality and confidence, and fighting relegation..
Until we are able to make the levels of investment needed to break into the top 6, which would be the ability to bring in several 20 million plus players, on 100k a week, our realistic position is going to be top ten- and I'd be more than happy to have that for the next ten years!!
Thar's a lovely theory Bracknell and I agree with you whole heartedly,but we live in an age of instant gratification now,where anything less than total success, is considered failure.
You may "live in an age of instant gratification", but people like Bracknell and I still have patience.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]midlandsaint[/bold] wrote: Jeez, all these people calling for Pochs head. Are they for real or what? We are currently 9th place in the Premier league!!! Much of our squad are young players who've come through our youth development set up or who were bought from the lower divisions when we played in the lower divisions. Poch has made some mistakes, and made some dodgy decisions but he's done a bloody good job in my opinion. We are not a top 4 club who are underperforming in 9th place. We are a club currently 8th places above where we finished last season. Whether Poch intends to stay after the season or not it just seems ludicrous for people to start calling for his head when we don't win every game.[/p][/quote]At last some common sense. We are comfortably in the top ten in the most competitive league in the world right now. Last season was first back in the top flight for 7 years, and only a couple of seasons before we were down in League One for god's sake! We are bringing through a bunch of young lads of huge potential, we are playing lovely football, and are watching the best Saints side since the turn of the 80's, with the potential to get even better. So we lost against the team now second? We might have won with better finishing? The scoreline didn't reflect the game, and the ref might have given us a first half penalty that could have changed things too... Not a bad way to lose, if you have to in my book. Rather that than be outplayed, looking desperately short of quality and confidence, and fighting relegation.. Until we are able to make the levels of investment needed to break into the top 6, which would be the ability to bring in several 20 million plus players, on 100k a week, our realistic position is going to be top ten- and I'd be more than happy to have that for the next ten years!![/p][/quote]Thar's a lovely theory Bracknell and I agree with you whole heartedly,but we live in an age of instant gratification now,where anything less than total success, is considered failure.[/p][/quote]You may "live in an age of instant gratification", but people like Bracknell and I still have patience. Rising_Son
  • Score: 3

10:30am Sun 2 Mar 14

Rising_Son says...

mack chinnon wrote:
I blame Guly.
Absolutely useless, wasn't he? Couldn't even keep a seat on the bench warm!
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: I blame Guly.[/p][/quote]Absolutely useless, wasn't he? Couldn't even keep a seat on the bench warm! Rising_Son
  • Score: 4

10:46am Sun 2 Mar 14

right back in the bar says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
midlandsaint wrote:
Jeez, all these people calling for Pochs head. Are they for real or what?

We are currently 9th place in the Premier league!!! Much of our squad are young players who've come through our youth development set up or who were bought from the lower divisions when we played in the lower divisions.

Poch has made some mistakes, and made some dodgy decisions but he's done a bloody good job in my opinion.

We are not a top 4 club who are underperforming in 9th place. We are a club currently 8th places above where we finished last season.

Whether Poch intends to stay after the season or not it just seems ludicrous for people to start calling for his head when we don't win every game.
At last some common sense.
We are comfortably in the top ten in the most competitive league in the world right now.
Last season was first back in the top flight for 7 years, and only a couple of seasons before we were down in League One for god's sake!
We are bringing through a bunch of young lads of huge potential, we are playing lovely football, and are watching the best Saints side since the turn of the 80's, with the potential to get even better.
So we lost against the team now second? We might have won with better finishing? The scoreline didn't reflect the game, and the ref might have given us a first half penalty that could have changed things too...
Not a bad way to lose, if you have to in my book. Rather that than be outplayed, looking desperately short of quality and confidence, and fighting relegation..
Until we are able to make the levels of investment needed to break into the top 6, which would be the ability to bring in several 20 million plus players, on 100k a week, our realistic position is going to be top ten- and I'd be more than happy to have that for the next ten years!!
Thar's a lovely theory Bracknell and I agree with you whole heartedly,but we live in an age of instant gratification now,where anything less than total success, is considered failure.
You may "live in an age of instant gratification", but people like Bracknell and I still have patience.
But as someone else said in these pages if you look at the points haul from the last 12 games we are on a worrying slide and it has become quite monotonous to watch us play all the football ineffectively infront of opposing teams who sit back and wait to pick us off. I cant understabd the criticism of LS as he was the only player to provide some genuine excitement when he broke away and crossed for RL dummy and JR usual woeful finish. Apart from RLs knockdown for AL this was the only time we threatened. Unless we find a way to inject some pace into our game and get behind and turn opposition defences we will continue as a mid table team. Thing is we have the players who can do it NC is one of the best attacking full backs in the prem and yet he doesnt play cant understand that.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]midlandsaint[/bold] wrote: Jeez, all these people calling for Pochs head. Are they for real or what? We are currently 9th place in the Premier league!!! Much of our squad are young players who've come through our youth development set up or who were bought from the lower divisions when we played in the lower divisions. Poch has made some mistakes, and made some dodgy decisions but he's done a bloody good job in my opinion. We are not a top 4 club who are underperforming in 9th place. We are a club currently 8th places above where we finished last season. Whether Poch intends to stay after the season or not it just seems ludicrous for people to start calling for his head when we don't win every game.[/p][/quote]At last some common sense. We are comfortably in the top ten in the most competitive league in the world right now. Last season was first back in the top flight for 7 years, and only a couple of seasons before we were down in League One for god's sake! We are bringing through a bunch of young lads of huge potential, we are playing lovely football, and are watching the best Saints side since the turn of the 80's, with the potential to get even better. So we lost against the team now second? We might have won with better finishing? The scoreline didn't reflect the game, and the ref might have given us a first half penalty that could have changed things too... Not a bad way to lose, if you have to in my book. Rather that than be outplayed, looking desperately short of quality and confidence, and fighting relegation.. Until we are able to make the levels of investment needed to break into the top 6, which would be the ability to bring in several 20 million plus players, on 100k a week, our realistic position is going to be top ten- and I'd be more than happy to have that for the next ten years!![/p][/quote]Thar's a lovely theory Bracknell and I agree with you whole heartedly,but we live in an age of instant gratification now,where anything less than total success, is considered failure.[/p][/quote]You may "live in an age of instant gratification", but people like Bracknell and I still have patience.[/p][/quote]But as someone else said in these pages if you look at the points haul from the last 12 games we are on a worrying slide and it has become quite monotonous to watch us play all the football ineffectively infront of opposing teams who sit back and wait to pick us off. I cant understabd the criticism of LS as he was the only player to provide some genuine excitement when he broke away and crossed for RL dummy and JR usual woeful finish. Apart from RLs knockdown for AL this was the only time we threatened. Unless we find a way to inject some pace into our game and get behind and turn opposition defences we will continue as a mid table team. Thing is we have the players who can do it NC is one of the best attacking full backs in the prem and yet he doesnt play cant understand that. right back in the bar
  • Score: 3

11:07am Sun 2 Mar 14

Rising_Son says...

right back in the bar wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
midlandsaint wrote:
Jeez, all these people calling for Pochs head. Are they for real or what?

We are currently 9th place in the Premier league!!! Much of our squad are young players who've come through our youth development set up or who were bought from the lower divisions when we played in the lower divisions.

Poch has made some mistakes, and made some dodgy decisions but he's done a bloody good job in my opinion.

We are not a top 4 club who are underperforming in 9th place. We are a club currently 8th places above where we finished last season.

Whether Poch intends to stay after the season or not it just seems ludicrous for people to start calling for his head when we don't win every game.
At last some common sense.
We are comfortably in the top ten in the most competitive league in the world right now.
Last season was first back in the top flight for 7 years, and only a couple of seasons before we were down in League One for god's sake!
We are bringing through a bunch of young lads of huge potential, we are playing lovely football, and are watching the best Saints side since the turn of the 80's, with the potential to get even better.
So we lost against the team now second? We might have won with better finishing? The scoreline didn't reflect the game, and the ref might have given us a first half penalty that could have changed things too...
Not a bad way to lose, if you have to in my book. Rather that than be outplayed, looking desperately short of quality and confidence, and fighting relegation..
Until we are able to make the levels of investment needed to break into the top 6, which would be the ability to bring in several 20 million plus players, on 100k a week, our realistic position is going to be top ten- and I'd be more than happy to have that for the next ten years!!
Thar's a lovely theory Bracknell and I agree with you whole heartedly,but we live in an age of instant gratification now,where anything less than total success, is considered failure.
You may "live in an age of instant gratification", but people like Bracknell and I still have patience.
But as someone else said in these pages if you look at the points haul from the last 12 games we are on a worrying slide and it has become quite monotonous to watch us play all the football ineffectively infront of opposing teams who sit back and wait to pick us off. I cant understabd the criticism of LS as he was the only player to provide some genuine excitement when he broke away and crossed for RL dummy and JR usual woeful finish. Apart from RLs knockdown for AL this was the only time we threatened. Unless we find a way to inject some pace into our game and get behind and turn opposition defences we will continue as a mid table team. Thing is we have the players who can do it NC is one of the best attacking full backs in the prem and yet he doesnt play cant understand that.
If threatening means creating chances, then I thought we threatened about as much as Liverpool. Unfortunately, our finishing let us down.
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]midlandsaint[/bold] wrote: Jeez, all these people calling for Pochs head. Are they for real or what? We are currently 9th place in the Premier league!!! Much of our squad are young players who've come through our youth development set up or who were bought from the lower divisions when we played in the lower divisions. Poch has made some mistakes, and made some dodgy decisions but he's done a bloody good job in my opinion. We are not a top 4 club who are underperforming in 9th place. We are a club currently 8th places above where we finished last season. Whether Poch intends to stay after the season or not it just seems ludicrous for people to start calling for his head when we don't win every game.[/p][/quote]At last some common sense. We are comfortably in the top ten in the most competitive league in the world right now. Last season was first back in the top flight for 7 years, and only a couple of seasons before we were down in League One for god's sake! We are bringing through a bunch of young lads of huge potential, we are playing lovely football, and are watching the best Saints side since the turn of the 80's, with the potential to get even better. So we lost against the team now second? We might have won with better finishing? The scoreline didn't reflect the game, and the ref might have given us a first half penalty that could have changed things too... Not a bad way to lose, if you have to in my book. Rather that than be outplayed, looking desperately short of quality and confidence, and fighting relegation.. Until we are able to make the levels of investment needed to break into the top 6, which would be the ability to bring in several 20 million plus players, on 100k a week, our realistic position is going to be top ten- and I'd be more than happy to have that for the next ten years!![/p][/quote]Thar's a lovely theory Bracknell and I agree with you whole heartedly,but we live in an age of instant gratification now,where anything less than total success, is considered failure.[/p][/quote]You may "live in an age of instant gratification", but people like Bracknell and I still have patience.[/p][/quote]But as someone else said in these pages if you look at the points haul from the last 12 games we are on a worrying slide and it has become quite monotonous to watch us play all the football ineffectively infront of opposing teams who sit back and wait to pick us off. I cant understabd the criticism of LS as he was the only player to provide some genuine excitement when he broke away and crossed for RL dummy and JR usual woeful finish. Apart from RLs knockdown for AL this was the only time we threatened. Unless we find a way to inject some pace into our game and get behind and turn opposition defences we will continue as a mid table team. Thing is we have the players who can do it NC is one of the best attacking full backs in the prem and yet he doesnt play cant understand that.[/p][/quote]If threatening means creating chances, then I thought we threatened about as much as Liverpool. Unfortunately, our finishing let us down. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

11:09am Sun 2 Mar 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Well said BracknellSaint, I watched a good game of football between 2 quality teams. We are a work in progress and hopefully will continue on our upward curve next season. We are underachieving in our finishing from the chances we create when we are on top and applying good pressure which is a pity.
They got a stroke of luck with how the ball bounced off Fonte on to Suarez for their first but that is a lesson in how to take a half chance. There was a great tempo to the game and the score line somewhat flattered them in the end but good luck to them, it’s about time they enjoyed Champions League football again.
I’m not sure that we would have been any better if we had signed Coutinho instead of Ramirez from what I have seen of him.
Well said BracknellSaint, I watched a good game of football between 2 quality teams. We are a work in progress and hopefully will continue on our upward curve next season. We are underachieving in our finishing from the chances we create when we are on top and applying good pressure which is a pity. They got a stroke of luck with how the ball bounced off Fonte on to Suarez for their first but that is a lesson in how to take a half chance. There was a great tempo to the game and the score line somewhat flattered them in the end but good luck to them, it’s about time they enjoyed Champions League football again. I’m not sure that we would have been any better if we had signed Coutinho instead of Ramirez from what I have seen of him. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 4

11:16am Sun 2 Mar 14

Rising_Son says...

In the last 12 matches, we've got 15 points (1.25 per match = about 48 points for a season), and 12 in the last 9 (1.33 per match = about 51 points for a season). No brilliant, I agree, but still better than what we achieved last season.
In the last 12 matches, we've got 15 points (1.25 per match = about 48 points for a season), and 12 in the last 9 (1.33 per match = about 51 points for a season). No brilliant, I agree, but still better than what we achieved last season. Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

11:27am Sun 2 Mar 14

Spudsaint says...

saintbobby wrote:
So that's 3 defeats on the trot.

Again some of the play produced by the Saints was really top drawer and lovely to watch but something goes wrong in the penalty box. Unlucky to hit the post and all that, but players like Suarez do not seem to have the trouble we do - chance, bang and in the net!

Like a lot of others, I just wonder if that team selection at Sunderland has something to do with our problems. Got to move on, of course, but I reckon that match has upset the momentum.

Win at Palace will redress the situation, but really must win and should win, so let's hope Pulis et al decide on an off day.

An afterthought and going back in my mind over recent months, am I right that being live on TV does not seem to suit us? Camera shy, I reckon!
Spot on. It's nothing to do with unfairness and everything to do having nothing left to play for. If Poch had taken the Sunderland match seriously we could be looking at a game against Hull for a place in the semi. I bet the players would be a bit more clinical in front of goal if they were playing for a place in the team at Wembley. Fundamental error in my opinion and in my view stems from the high probability that Poch will be off in the summer. I just hope this doesn't result in the break up of the squad.
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: So that's 3 defeats on the trot. Again some of the play produced by the Saints was really top drawer and lovely to watch but something goes wrong in the penalty box. Unlucky to hit the post and all that, but players like Suarez do not seem to have the trouble we do - chance, bang and in the net! Like a lot of others, I just wonder if that team selection at Sunderland has something to do with our problems. Got to move on, of course, but I reckon that match has upset the momentum. Win at Palace will redress the situation, but really must win and should win, so let's hope Pulis et al decide on an off day. An afterthought and going back in my mind over recent months, am I right that being live on TV does not seem to suit us? Camera shy, I reckon![/p][/quote]Spot on. It's nothing to do with unfairness and everything to do having nothing left to play for. If Poch had taken the Sunderland match seriously we could be looking at a game against Hull for a place in the semi. I bet the players would be a bit more clinical in front of goal if they were playing for a place in the team at Wembley. Fundamental error in my opinion and in my view stems from the high probability that Poch will be off in the summer. I just hope this doesn't result in the break up of the squad. Spudsaint
  • Score: 2

11:31am Sun 2 Mar 14

Slick Saint says...

I have seen a worrying change to saints over the last few months. We have become slow and we have fallen deeper and deeper rather than the team everyone was talks about - pressing high and pressuring the other team.

MP has no plan B. Liverpool changed their tactics and we didn't until it was too late. Lambert shouldn't be starting right now. Looks not interested and very slow whereas Gaston looks fit and hungry.
I have seen a worrying change to saints over the last few months. We have become slow and we have fallen deeper and deeper rather than the team everyone was talks about - pressing high and pressuring the other team. MP has no plan B. Liverpool changed their tactics and we didn't until it was too late. Lambert shouldn't be starting right now. Looks not interested and very slow whereas Gaston looks fit and hungry. Slick Saint
  • Score: 1

11:37am Sun 2 Mar 14

justaSaintsfan says...

Thecampster wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Instead of deserving a win why dont you fukin get one MP. Why dont you **** off MP, fukin prik
Let him go,

Hes not that good a manager anyway,

WGS was better than him.
@Thecampster . . . . . . . I'm just wondering if you and bigfella777 have started using a new aftershave . . . . . . .

called EAU DE POOPEY !!!
[quote][p][bold]Thecampster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Instead of deserving a win why dont you fukin get one MP. Why dont you **** off MP, fukin prik[/p][/quote]Let him go, Hes not that good a manager anyway, WGS was better than him.[/p][/quote]@Thecampster . . . . . . . I'm just wondering if you and bigfella777 have started using a new aftershave . . . . . . . called EAU DE POOPEY !!! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 8

11:43am Sun 2 Mar 14

Chipmonk1 says...

Said it b4 I'll say it again. All those calling for MoPo's head be careful what you wish for. The long term plan as far as I can recall was for MoPo to bring the kids up to first team standard. Shaw and Chambers already there and JWP not far off. If we can keep hold of the cream the future looks bright but it would help greatly if the current coaching staff stayed. I for one have not forgotten what the manager merry go round did to us last time. I'm not one for knocking any of our players but would like to see SRL brought on later when oppo defence is tiring and start with jrod up front with AL and GR playing behind. Just a thought.
Said it b4 I'll say it again. All those calling for MoPo's head be careful what you wish for. The long term plan as far as I can recall was for MoPo to bring the kids up to first team standard. Shaw and Chambers already there and JWP not far off. If we can keep hold of the cream the future looks bright but it would help greatly if the current coaching staff stayed. I for one have not forgotten what the manager merry go round did to us last time. I'm not one for knocking any of our players but would like to see SRL brought on later when oppo defence is tiring and start with jrod up front with AL and GR playing behind. Just a thought. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 6

11:50am Sun 2 Mar 14

Saintsayer II says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
We have all enjoyed some cracking games under MoPo but I have always said his system of play combined with the additional traing it requires is not sustainable for a whole season I still believe that to be the case Therfore I would be quite happy to see him leave I don't believe we will get any better under him than we have this year We would probably finish between 8th and 12th every year under his regime Can the new board attract a replacement of the required standard ? This could be the difference between having, or not having, NC at the helm
I believe this style is sustainable, over a season.
The only thing lacking is the better quality players that would turn the possession into clear cut chances and goals. In recent games, we have spent too much time chasing games, as a result of missing chances, which is why IMO, we sometimes appear laboured. Compare that to the games when we have been comfortably ahead and cruised through the 90 minutes, using the same style of
Rome wasn't built in a day, and we are still a work in progress, but unless the current squad can improve on the above, it will need, IMO, 3 new attacking players, during the summer.
One to replace/interchange with SRL, who despite being our most influential player with goals and assists, seems to be becoming a peripheral figure in many games.
And two in the same mould as Lallana, players that can hold the ball, run at players, create and score goals.
I, for one, would be disappointed if MP moved on, and our style of play changed as I can't remember any other season, when the "big teams" have had to adjust or alter their usual style of play, in order to cancel us out.
Solve the scoring consistency, and we WILL threaten the top four, playing this way.
Now this is the type of discussion that realy needs to be had over a few pints

As I said I have enjoyed a lot of our games playing the pressing MoPo style but it seems like its the only one he has Rodgers needed to change Liverpools normal style and did so Could MoPo have changed to a diamond?I don't think so because we have no natural wide players up front

In the summer (if he stays) he needs 2 front line strikers, a quick CB to play alongside Loveren and a replacement or cover for Boruc I see Luke as a lifetime LB but Callum will change to either a mid field player or possibly a CB
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: We have all enjoyed some cracking games under MoPo but I have always said his system of play combined with the additional traing it requires is not sustainable for a whole season I still believe that to be the case Therfore I would be quite happy to see him leave I don't believe we will get any better under him than we have this year We would probably finish between 8th and 12th every year under his regime Can the new board attract a replacement of the required standard ? This could be the difference between having, or not having, NC at the helm[/p][/quote]I believe this style is sustainable, over a season. The only thing lacking is the better quality players that would turn the possession into clear cut chances and goals. In recent games, we have spent too much time chasing games, as a result of missing chances, which is why IMO, we sometimes appear laboured. Compare that to the games when we have been comfortably ahead and cruised through the 90 minutes, using the same style of Rome wasn't built in a day, and we are still a work in progress, but unless the current squad can improve on the above, it will need, IMO, 3 new attacking players, during the summer. One to replace/interchange with SRL, who despite being our most influential player with goals and assists, seems to be becoming a peripheral figure in many games. And two in the same mould as Lallana, players that can hold the ball, run at players, create and score goals. I, for one, would be disappointed if MP moved on, and our style of play changed as I can't remember any other season, when the "big teams" have had to adjust or alter their usual style of play, in order to cancel us out. Solve the scoring consistency, and we WILL threaten the top four, playing this way.[/p][/quote]Now this is the type of discussion that realy needs to be had over a few pints As I said I have enjoyed a lot of our games playing the pressing MoPo style but it seems like its the only one he has Rodgers needed to change Liverpools normal style and did so Could MoPo have changed to a diamond?I don't think so because we have no natural wide players up front In the summer (if he stays) he needs 2 front line strikers, a quick CB to play alongside Loveren and a replacement or cover for Boruc I see Luke as a lifetime LB but Callum will change to either a mid field player or possibly a CB Saintsayer II
  • Score: 2

11:57am Sun 2 Mar 14

Rising_Son says...

Slick Saint wrote:
I have seen a worrying change to saints over the last few months. We have become slow and we have fallen deeper and deeper rather than the team everyone was talks about - pressing high and pressuring the other team.

MP has no plan B. Liverpool changed their tactics and we didn't until it was too late. Lambert shouldn't be starting right now. Looks not interested and very slow whereas Gaston looks fit and hungry.
I'm not sure I understand your comment. We dominated the match most of the 1st half and until they scored their 2nd by "pressing high and pressuring" them. I also don't understand how you can say that we changed our tactics and that MP has no Plan B. It's somehow contradictory, unless you believe we adopted Plan C or something.
[quote][p][bold]Slick Saint[/bold] wrote: I have seen a worrying change to saints over the last few months. We have become slow and we have fallen deeper and deeper rather than the team everyone was talks about - pressing high and pressuring the other team. MP has no plan B. Liverpool changed their tactics and we didn't until it was too late. Lambert shouldn't be starting right now. Looks not interested and very slow whereas Gaston looks fit and hungry.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure I understand your comment. We dominated the match most of the 1st half and until they scored their 2nd by "pressing high and pressuring" them. I also don't understand how you can say that we changed our tactics and that MP has no Plan B. It's somehow contradictory, unless you believe we adopted Plan C or something. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

12:02pm Sun 2 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Spudsaint wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
So that's 3 defeats on the trot.

Again some of the play produced by the Saints was really top drawer and lovely to watch but something goes wrong in the penalty box. Unlucky to hit the post and all that, but players like Suarez do not seem to have the trouble we do - chance, bang and in the net!

Like a lot of others, I just wonder if that team selection at Sunderland has something to do with our problems. Got to move on, of course, but I reckon that match has upset the momentum.

Win at Palace will redress the situation, but really must win and should win, so let's hope Pulis et al decide on an off day.

An afterthought and going back in my mind over recent months, am I right that being live on TV does not seem to suit us? Camera shy, I reckon!
Spot on. It's nothing to do with unfairness and everything to do having nothing left to play for. If Poch had taken the Sunderland match seriously we could be looking at a game against Hull for a place in the semi. I bet the players would be a bit more clinical in front of goal if they were playing for a place in the team at Wembley. Fundamental error in my opinion and in my view stems from the high probability that Poch will be off in the summer. I just hope this doesn't result in the break up of the squad.
whilst I accept and can see what your saying, I cant fully agree.
do we know that the numbers would have been the same I we had been in the draw instead of blunderland?
again the players might be more clinical with the potential of a Wembley trip, however you could also say that players who have the chance of getting to Wembley might not give 100% in league games and might pull out of tackles because they wouldn't want to get injured before the Wembley game. in recent times clubs, that aren't in the top 4/6 that have got to a cup final and even won it, have struggled in the league. wigan last year, were the players thinking of Wembley rather than the league? I`m not saying we would have gone down just that we might have seen the players completely take their foot off the pedal and might not be as up for it as you think. MP knows his best and favourite players by now so some of them wouldn't have needed to play for their place.
as I say its just a different take on it, not saying I am right or you are wrong, I actually think it might even be a mix of the 2.
[quote][p][bold]Spudsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: So that's 3 defeats on the trot. Again some of the play produced by the Saints was really top drawer and lovely to watch but something goes wrong in the penalty box. Unlucky to hit the post and all that, but players like Suarez do not seem to have the trouble we do - chance, bang and in the net! Like a lot of others, I just wonder if that team selection at Sunderland has something to do with our problems. Got to move on, of course, but I reckon that match has upset the momentum. Win at Palace will redress the situation, but really must win and should win, so let's hope Pulis et al decide on an off day. An afterthought and going back in my mind over recent months, am I right that being live on TV does not seem to suit us? Camera shy, I reckon![/p][/quote]Spot on. It's nothing to do with unfairness and everything to do having nothing left to play for. If Poch had taken the Sunderland match seriously we could be looking at a game against Hull for a place in the semi. I bet the players would be a bit more clinical in front of goal if they were playing for a place in the team at Wembley. Fundamental error in my opinion and in my view stems from the high probability that Poch will be off in the summer. I just hope this doesn't result in the break up of the squad.[/p][/quote]whilst I accept and can see what your saying, I cant fully agree. do we know that the numbers would have been the same I we had been in the draw instead of blunderland? again the players might be more clinical with the potential of a Wembley trip, however you could also say that players who have the chance of getting to Wembley might not give 100% in league games and might pull out of tackles because they wouldn't want to get injured before the Wembley game. in recent times clubs, that aren't in the top 4/6 that have got to a cup final and even won it, have struggled in the league. wigan last year, were the players thinking of Wembley rather than the league? I`m not saying we would have gone down just that we might have seen the players completely take their foot off the pedal and might not be as up for it as you think. MP knows his best and favourite players by now so some of them wouldn't have needed to play for their place. as I say its just a different take on it, not saying I am right or you are wrong, I actually think it might even be a mix of the 2. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

12:20pm Sun 2 Mar 14

BAKER1965 says...

FindAndDestroy wrote:
The only consolation price i am taking from this season is the fact that we are not fighting the relegation battle...
Another five defeats in a row and we could be.
[quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote: The only consolation price i am taking from this season is the fact that we are not fighting the relegation battle...[/p][/quote]Another five defeats in a row and we could be. BAKER1965
  • Score: -5

12:33pm Sun 2 Mar 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

derek james wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
You don't say if you are a season ticket holder, if so if they are there again report them to the police or a steward. Our club will not allow this IF THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.
I'm not a season ticket but have been to most games and usually sit in block 10 but because every man and his dog wanted a ticket for this game I got tickets in 11 as there were 4 of us. Moving forwards if the only seats are near the bigots that I sat near yesterday I'll opt to watch on TV instead.
get over it, anyone who watched in the 70's and 80's heard far worse!
THERE IS A PLACE FOR EVERYONE AT ST MARY'S.

If you want a good view and a ore peaceful experience then KINGSLAND CENTRAL is the way ahead surrounded by good honest Saints Supporters. I have watched the game from there and it is highly recommended.

I know Liverpool Supporters are on a high as Manure have diminished and they see this Season as their chance - however they have GOTTA BE CRAZY TO SIT IN KINGSLAND NORTH - THE NORTHAM - ITCHEN NORTH AND ARE ASKING FOR TROUBLE TO BE IN THE SAINTS HARDCORE AREAS.

THE PRESSURE IS ON.MP AND THE TEAM MUST DELIVER AGAINST PALACE.

WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

RED ARMY 2014. WE FIGHT WE WIN.
COYR
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.[/p][/quote]You don't say if you are a season ticket holder, if so if they are there again report them to the police or a steward. Our club will not allow this IF THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.[/p][/quote]I'm not a season ticket but have been to most games and usually sit in block 10 but because every man and his dog wanted a ticket for this game I got tickets in 11 as there were 4 of us. Moving forwards if the only seats are near the bigots that I sat near yesterday I'll opt to watch on TV instead.[/p][/quote]get over it, anyone who watched in the 70's and 80's heard far worse![/p][/quote]THERE IS A PLACE FOR EVERYONE AT ST MARY'S. If you want a good view and a ore peaceful experience then KINGSLAND CENTRAL is the way ahead surrounded by good honest Saints Supporters. I have watched the game from there and it is highly recommended. I know Liverpool Supporters are on a high as Manure have diminished and they see this Season as their chance - however they have GOTTA BE CRAZY TO SIT IN KINGSLAND NORTH - THE NORTHAM - ITCHEN NORTH AND ARE ASKING FOR TROUBLE TO BE IN THE SAINTS HARDCORE AREAS. THE PRESSURE IS ON.MP AND THE TEAM MUST DELIVER AGAINST PALACE. WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. RED ARMY 2014. WE FIGHT WE WIN. COYR REDARMYRULETHESOUTH
  • Score: 12

12:41pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
midlandsaint wrote:
Jeez, all these people calling for Pochs head. Are they for real or what?

We are currently 9th place in the Premier league!!! Much of our squad are young players who've come through our youth development set up or who were bought from the lower divisions when we played in the lower divisions.

Poch has made some mistakes, and made some dodgy decisions but he's done a bloody good job in my opinion.

We are not a top 4 club who are underperforming in 9th place. We are a club currently 8th places above where we finished last season.

Whether Poch intends to stay after the season or not it just seems ludicrous for people to start calling for his head when we don't win every game.
At last some common sense.
We are comfortably in the top ten in the most competitive league in the world right now.
Last season was first back in the top flight for 7 years, and only a couple of seasons before we were down in League One for god's sake!
We are bringing through a bunch of young lads of huge potential, we are playing lovely football, and are watching the best Saints side since the turn of the 80's, with the potential to get even better.
So we lost against the team now second? We might have won with better finishing? The scoreline didn't reflect the game, and the ref might have given us a first half penalty that could have changed things too...
Not a bad way to lose, if you have to in my book. Rather that than be outplayed, looking desperately short of quality and confidence, and fighting relegation..
Until we are able to make the levels of investment needed to break into the top 6, which would be the ability to bring in several 20 million plus players, on 100k a week, our realistic position is going to be top ten- and I'd be more than happy to have that for the next ten years!!
Thar's a lovely theory Bracknell and I agree with you whole heartedly,but we live in an age of instant gratification now,where anything less than total success, is considered failure.
You may "live in an age of instant gratification", but people like Bracknell and I still have patience.
I live in it,but like you I don't ascribe to it,but only the young think they can change the world,we all learn eventually in the University of Life, and the school of hard knocks.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]midlandsaint[/bold] wrote: Jeez, all these people calling for Pochs head. Are they for real or what? We are currently 9th place in the Premier league!!! Much of our squad are young players who've come through our youth development set up or who were bought from the lower divisions when we played in the lower divisions. Poch has made some mistakes, and made some dodgy decisions but he's done a bloody good job in my opinion. We are not a top 4 club who are underperforming in 9th place. We are a club currently 8th places above where we finished last season. Whether Poch intends to stay after the season or not it just seems ludicrous for people to start calling for his head when we don't win every game.[/p][/quote]At last some common sense. We are comfortably in the top ten in the most competitive league in the world right now. Last season was first back in the top flight for 7 years, and only a couple of seasons before we were down in League One for god's sake! We are bringing through a bunch of young lads of huge potential, we are playing lovely football, and are watching the best Saints side since the turn of the 80's, with the potential to get even better. So we lost against the team now second? We might have won with better finishing? The scoreline didn't reflect the game, and the ref might have given us a first half penalty that could have changed things too... Not a bad way to lose, if you have to in my book. Rather that than be outplayed, looking desperately short of quality and confidence, and fighting relegation.. Until we are able to make the levels of investment needed to break into the top 6, which would be the ability to bring in several 20 million plus players, on 100k a week, our realistic position is going to be top ten- and I'd be more than happy to have that for the next ten years!![/p][/quote]Thar's a lovely theory Bracknell and I agree with you whole heartedly,but we live in an age of instant gratification now,where anything less than total success, is considered failure.[/p][/quote]You may "live in an age of instant gratification", but people like Bracknell and I still have patience.[/p][/quote]I live in it,but like you I don't ascribe to it,but only the young think they can change the world,we all learn eventually in the University of Life, and the school of hard knocks. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

12:55pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Sadoldgitte says...

It was very evident before the transfer window that the defence needed another quality centre half and that we needed an out and out goalscorer. Osvado was a gamble that badly backfired and we didnt get our defender. All too often we dominate possession only to be hit by sucker punches. Poch as showed no sign of knowing how to deal with this problem so far. He inherited a decent squad but, whether they are his or Cortese's or Reeds signings, the transfer activity has been mainly very poor.
It was very evident before the transfer window that the defence needed another quality centre half and that we needed an out and out goalscorer. Osvado was a gamble that badly backfired and we didnt get our defender. All too often we dominate possession only to be hit by sucker punches. Poch as showed no sign of knowing how to deal with this problem so far. He inherited a decent squad but, whether they are his or Cortese's or Reeds signings, the transfer activity has been mainly very poor. Sadoldgitte
  • Score: 4

12:59pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Costa Baz says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote: We have all enjoyed some cracking games under MoPo but I have always said his system of play combined with the additional traing it requires is not sustainable for a whole season I still believe that to be the case Therfore I would be quite happy to see him leave I don't believe we will get any better under him than we have this year We would probably finish between 8th and 12th every year under his regime Can the new board attract a replacement of the required standard ? This could be the difference between having, or not having, NC at the helm
I believe this style is sustainable, over a season. The only thing lacking is the better quality players that would turn the possession into clear cut chances and goals. In recent games, we have spent too much time chasing games, as a result of missing chances, which is why IMO, we sometimes appear laboured. Compare that to the games when we have been comfortably ahead and cruised through the 90 minutes, using the same style of Rome wasn't built in a day, and we are still a work in progress, but unless the current squad can improve on the above, it will need, IMO, 3 new attacking players, during the summer. One to replace/interchange with SRL, who despite being our most influential player with goals and assists, seems to be becoming a peripheral figure in many games. And two in the same mould as Lallana, players that can hold the ball, run at players, create and score goals. I, for one, would be disappointed if MP moved on, and our style of play changed as I can't remember any other season, when the "big teams" have had to adjust or alter their usual style of play, in order to cancel us out. Solve the scoring consistency, and we WILL threaten the top four, playing this way.
Now this is the type of discussion that realy needs to be had over a few pints As I said I have enjoyed a lot of our games playing the pressing MoPo style but it seems like its the only one he has Rodgers needed to change Liverpools normal style and did so Could MoPo have changed to a diamond?I don't think so because we have no natural wide players up front In the summer (if he stays) he needs 2 front line strikers, a quick CB to play alongside Loveren and a replacement or cover for Boruc I see Luke as a lifetime LB but Callum will change to either a mid field player or possibly a CB
Yes please to the beer!
Chambers used to be midfield and I think him and Clyne could be a very viable combination, right side.
I just feel people are only questioning the style because our inconsistency, in the final third, means we aren't killing games off.
If the goals were going in, and the points building, we'd all be happy with it.
Agree that we need to reinforce the front line, but would go for one outright striker, with two Lallana type players, with pace.
Rogers did show good awareness, yesterday. As soon as he realised Gaston was on and Davis was off, he realised that there would be more space and immediately put Sterling on, to exploit it.
Having said that, apart from being in the right place to score, he did little else.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: We have all enjoyed some cracking games under MoPo but I have always said his system of play combined with the additional traing it requires is not sustainable for a whole season I still believe that to be the case Therfore I would be quite happy to see him leave I don't believe we will get any better under him than we have this year We would probably finish between 8th and 12th every year under his regime Can the new board attract a replacement of the required standard ? This could be the difference between having, or not having, NC at the helm[/p][/quote]I believe this style is sustainable, over a season. The only thing lacking is the better quality players that would turn the possession into clear cut chances and goals. In recent games, we have spent too much time chasing games, as a result of missing chances, which is why IMO, we sometimes appear laboured. Compare that to the games when we have been comfortably ahead and cruised through the 90 minutes, using the same style of Rome wasn't built in a day, and we are still a work in progress, but unless the current squad can improve on the above, it will need, IMO, 3 new attacking players, during the summer. One to replace/interchange with SRL, who despite being our most influential player with goals and assists, seems to be becoming a peripheral figure in many games. And two in the same mould as Lallana, players that can hold the ball, run at players, create and score goals. I, for one, would be disappointed if MP moved on, and our style of play changed as I can't remember any other season, when the "big teams" have had to adjust or alter their usual style of play, in order to cancel us out. Solve the scoring consistency, and we WILL threaten the top four, playing this way.[/p][/quote]Now this is the type of discussion that realy needs to be had over a few pints As I said I have enjoyed a lot of our games playing the pressing MoPo style but it seems like its the only one he has Rodgers needed to change Liverpools normal style and did so Could MoPo have changed to a diamond?I don't think so because we have no natural wide players up front In the summer (if he stays) he needs 2 front line strikers, a quick CB to play alongside Loveren and a replacement or cover for Boruc I see Luke as a lifetime LB but Callum will change to either a mid field player or possibly a CB[/p][/quote]Yes please to the beer! Chambers used to be midfield and I think him and Clyne could be a very viable combination, right side. I just feel people are only questioning the style because our inconsistency, in the final third, means we aren't killing games off. If the goals were going in, and the points building, we'd all be happy with it. Agree that we need to reinforce the front line, but would go for one outright striker, with two Lallana type players, with pace. Rogers did show good awareness, yesterday. As soon as he realised Gaston was on and Davis was off, he realised that there would be more space and immediately put Sterling on, to exploit it. Having said that, apart from being in the right place to score, he did little else. Costa Baz
  • Score: 0

1:02pm Sun 2 Mar 14

03alpe01 says...

Just out of interest, where are the Saints fans who said " we don't need another striker in January, Poch knows what he's doing. Of course you can replace a £15 million International with a 100k kid from the Academy and expect the same results" I'd like to ask their opinions now.
Just out of interest, where are the Saints fans who said " we don't need another striker in January, Poch knows what he's doing. Of course you can replace a £15 million International with a 100k kid from the Academy and expect the same results" I'd like to ask their opinions now. 03alpe01
  • Score: 0

1:02pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Steve_N says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Instead of deserving a win why dont you fukin get one MP. Why dont you **** off MP, fukin prik
Where were you watching from? Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, 300?

Finishing has been a problem for some time now, but MP can't conjure up a quality striker out of nowhere. He obviously felt Osvaldo would fill that gap, but he couldn't cut the mustard in the EPL, although seems to be scoring for Juve. What is MP supposed to say in interviews? Our strikers are c@@p and I'll be looking for replacements in the summer (if I'm still here). Not good for player confidence methinks.

Yes recent form has been disappointing, but we are 9th and not involved in the relegation scrap with 10 games still to play! Remember where we were not so many seasons ago.

UTS
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Instead of deserving a win why dont you fukin get one MP. Why dont you **** off MP, fukin prik[/p][/quote]Where were you watching from? Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, 300? Finishing has been a problem for some time now, but MP can't conjure up a quality striker out of nowhere. He obviously felt Osvaldo would fill that gap, but he couldn't cut the mustard in the EPL, although seems to be scoring for Juve. What is MP supposed to say in interviews? Our strikers are c@@p and I'll be looking for replacements in the summer (if I'm still here). Not good for player confidence methinks. Yes recent form has been disappointing, but we are 9th and not involved in the relegation scrap with 10 games still to play! Remember where we were not so many seasons ago. UTS Steve_N
  • Score: 1

1:04pm Sun 2 Mar 14

loosehead says...

could these latest results be because MOPO is leaving in the summer?
All you fans have been saying about the defence & now we don't seem to have a striker worth talking about?
where did the money from Os go? sell Ramirez & use the money to buy?
Oh! it's to late we have to secure our place with what we've got .how many points away from the drop zone are we?
Just answer this why oh why didn't we buy in the transfer window?
It's okay saying we have the youngsters coming through but they're not ready as has been proven by our latest results
could these latest results be because MOPO is leaving in the summer? All you fans have been saying about the defence & now we don't seem to have a striker worth talking about? where did the money from Os go? sell Ramirez & use the money to buy? Oh! it's to late we have to secure our place with what we've got .how many points away from the drop zone are we? Just answer this why oh why didn't we buy in the transfer window? It's okay saying we have the youngsters coming through but they're not ready as has been proven by our latest results loosehead
  • Score: 1

1:05pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Steve_N says...

FindAndDestroy wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Instead of deserving a win why dont you fukin get one MP. Why dont you **** off MP, fukin prik
You really need to chill out mate..... if you carry on like this heart condition and blood blood pressure will knocking on your door... :-)
Where were you sat today? Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300?
[quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Instead of deserving a win why dont you fukin get one MP. Why dont you **** off MP, fukin prik[/p][/quote]You really need to chill out mate..... if you carry on like this heart condition and blood blood pressure will knocking on your door... :-)[/p][/quote]Where were you sat today? Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300? Steve_N
  • Score: 3

1:07pm Sun 2 Mar 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

Sadoldgitte wrote:
It was very evident before the transfer window that the defence needed another quality centre half and that we needed an out and out goalscorer. Osvado was a gamble that badly backfired and we didnt get our defender. All too often we dominate possession only to be hit by sucker punches. Poch as showed no sign of knowing how to deal with this problem so far. He inherited a decent squad but, whether they are his or Cortese's or Reeds signings, the transfer activity has been mainly very poor.
You are SO RIGHT and that is the frustration for Saints Supporters. It is one thing having the money to spend and developing Youth - it is a completely different skill sourcing TOP QUALITY.

WE DID WELL WITH LOVREN THOUGH.

RICKIE IS GREAT AND I SUPPORT HIM AS A LEGEND. We do need an out and out Goal Scorer - and it has been tough for SRL this Season. He works so hard and does create chances - if he had gone to west Ham we would have lost that.

I HAVE ENJOYED SOME TOP GAMES THIS SEASON - CARDIFF AWAY WAS GREAT ON BOXING DAY.

LONG MAY IT CONTINUE.

THE FIGHT IS TO GET BACK TO WINNING WAYS.
RED ARMY - NUMBER ONE IN THE SOUTH.
COYR
[quote][p][bold]Sadoldgitte[/bold] wrote: It was very evident before the transfer window that the defence needed another quality centre half and that we needed an out and out goalscorer. Osvado was a gamble that badly backfired and we didnt get our defender. All too often we dominate possession only to be hit by sucker punches. Poch as showed no sign of knowing how to deal with this problem so far. He inherited a decent squad but, whether they are his or Cortese's or Reeds signings, the transfer activity has been mainly very poor.[/p][/quote]You are SO RIGHT and that is the frustration for Saints Supporters. It is one thing having the money to spend and developing Youth - it is a completely different skill sourcing TOP QUALITY. WE DID WELL WITH LOVREN THOUGH. RICKIE IS GREAT AND I SUPPORT HIM AS A LEGEND. We do need an out and out Goal Scorer - and it has been tough for SRL this Season. He works so hard and does create chances - if he had gone to west Ham we would have lost that. I HAVE ENJOYED SOME TOP GAMES THIS SEASON - CARDIFF AWAY WAS GREAT ON BOXING DAY. LONG MAY IT CONTINUE. THE FIGHT IS TO GET BACK TO WINNING WAYS. RED ARMY - NUMBER ONE IN THE SOUTH. COYR REDARMYRULETHESOUTH
  • Score: 8

1:07pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Steve_N says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Instead of deserving a win why dont you fukin get one MP. Why dont you **** off MP, fukin prik
Where were you sat today? Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Instead of deserving a win why dont you fukin get one MP. Why dont you **** off MP, fukin prik[/p][/quote]Where were you sat today? Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 Steve_N
  • Score: 4

1:11pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Shrewdsaint says...

Interesting MOTD2 extra, for once. Worth watching last 5 mins on iplayer. Especially Keown's comment that Chambers could play centre back, not thought of that one, as Nat is unlucky to be out but rightly so, maybe a bit of a waste of Callam's pace but worth discussing.
Interesting MOTD2 extra, for once. Worth watching last 5 mins on iplayer. Especially Keown's comment that Chambers could play centre back, not thought of that one, as Nat is unlucky to be out but rightly so, maybe a bit of a waste of Callam's pace but worth discussing. Shrewdsaint
  • Score: 6

1:47pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Velleity says...

JohnItaly wrote:
In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs.

In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.
Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble.

Just so you know. It isn't and we did.

Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you.

How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs. In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.[/p][/quote]Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble. Just so you know. It isn't and we did. Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you. How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name? Velleity
  • Score: -7

2:01pm Sun 2 Mar 14

promised land says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
According to the Sunday Mirror MoPo is off to Italy That would explain his apprent indifference just lately
Do you mean because he read the article?
Actually the Daily Mirror article doesn't say he's off to Italy. It says he might be off to Italy if the current manager of Inter messes up.
It's the Sunday Mirror and they say insiders believe he will go and be replaced by garcia from Osassuna
Is the article different from this one? (http://www.mirror.c

o.uk/sport/football/

news/mauricio-pochet

tinos-southampton-fu

ture-still-3196822?)
If it's in the newspapers. It must true.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: According to the Sunday Mirror MoPo is off to Italy That would explain his apprent indifference just lately[/p][/quote]Do you mean because he read the article?[/p][/quote]Actually the Daily Mirror article doesn't say he's off to Italy. It says he might be off to Italy if the current manager of Inter messes up.[/p][/quote]It's the Sunday Mirror and they say insiders believe he will go and be replaced by garcia from Osassuna[/p][/quote]Is the article different from this one? (http://www.mirror.c o.uk/sport/football/ news/mauricio-pochet tinos-southampton-fu ture-still-3196822?)[/p][/quote]If it's in the newspapers. It must true. promised land
  • Score: 2

2:08pm Sun 2 Mar 14

promised land says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
As my great gran used to say to me --it's goals that count --- strange how, in all these years , it hasn't filtered through to allegedly, but not in my opinion, one of the best managers in the business.
Downhill all the way since Cortese resigned --- come back Cortese all is forgiven ---I misjudged you.
Sad but true ---- if no one is afraid of the Boss -- then nothing gets done, whether in a factory, on a building site, or in a Football Club..
"If no one is afraid of the boss - then nothing gets done". With those words of wisdom. Better not mess with Pardew then !
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: As my great gran used to say to me --it's goals that count --- strange how, in all these years , it hasn't filtered through to allegedly, but not in my opinion, one of the best managers in the business. Downhill all the way since Cortese resigned --- come back Cortese all is forgiven ---I misjudged you. Sad but true ---- if no one is afraid of the Boss -- then nothing gets done, whether in a factory, on a building site, or in a Football Club..[/p][/quote]"If no one is afraid of the boss - then nothing gets done". With those words of wisdom. Better not mess with Pardew then ! promised land
  • Score: 1

2:17pm Sun 2 Mar 14

up saints says...

southampton played better than the score line but last 3 games we had 48 shots 9 on target and 1 goal.opposition had 33 shots 14 on target and 7 goals.does this mean we need a new keeper better defence or better strikers.or just a bit of luck.
southampton played better than the score line but last 3 games we had 48 shots 9 on target and 1 goal.opposition had 33 shots 14 on target and 7 goals.does this mean we need a new keeper better defence or better strikers.or just a bit of luck. up saints
  • Score: 0

2:32pm Sun 2 Mar 14

redandy10 says...

We have four players in the England squad and have a few more who could be in contention for a place very soon. We have have a very good manager and squad, as well as You wouldn't know it from some of the posts on here. Would you prefer we were in the bottom three, with a rubbish manager and club owners spending miserly amounts of money. We need to buy another quality centre half and a proven finisher and we'll be good enough for the top eight and higher!
We have four players in the England squad and have a few more who could be in contention for a place very soon. We have have a very good manager and squad, as well as You wouldn't know it from some of the posts on here. Would you prefer we were in the bottom three, with a rubbish manager and club owners spending miserly amounts of money. We need to buy another quality centre half and a proven finisher and we'll be good enough for the top eight and higher! redandy10
  • Score: 4

2:37pm Sun 2 Mar 14

redandy10 says...

redandy10 wrote:
We have four players in the England squad and have a few more who could be in contention for a place very soon. We have have a very good manager and squad, as well as You wouldn't know it from some of the posts on here. Would you prefer we were in the bottom three, with a rubbish manager and club owners spending miserly amounts of money. We need to buy another quality centre half and a proven finisher and we'll be good enough for the top eight and higher!
I got so carried away I forgot to finish a sentence......as well as club owners who have shown a willingness to invest a lot of money in strengthening the squad.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: We have four players in the England squad and have a few more who could be in contention for a place very soon. We have have a very good manager and squad, as well as You wouldn't know it from some of the posts on here. Would you prefer we were in the bottom three, with a rubbish manager and club owners spending miserly amounts of money. We need to buy another quality centre half and a proven finisher and we'll be good enough for the top eight and higher![/p][/quote]I got so carried away I forgot to finish a sentence......as well as club owners who have shown a willingness to invest a lot of money in strengthening the squad. redandy10
  • Score: 3

3:01pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Totally Oblivious says...

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  • Score: 1

3:11pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Totally Oblivious says...

Just watching Capital Cup Final on TV. Could, possibly should have been Saints there now. Never mind, although season feels over we've got Wed evening to look forward to at Wembley- come on you Saints!
Just watching Capital Cup Final on TV. Could, possibly should have been Saints there now. Never mind, although season feels over we've got Wed evening to look forward to at Wembley- come on you Saints! Totally Oblivious
  • Score: 3

3:13pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Baddesley Bill says...

Steve_N wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Instead of deserving a win why dont you fukin get one MP. Why dont you **** off MP, fukin prik
Where were you sat today? Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300
Cheers Steve....that made me LOL.
[quote][p][bold]Steve_N[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Instead of deserving a win why dont you fukin get one MP. Why dont you **** off MP, fukin prik[/p][/quote]Where were you sat today? Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300[/p][/quote]Cheers Steve....that made me LOL. Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 0

3:19pm Sun 2 Mar 14

dadofmy3sons says...

watched the game on telly and a comment from several lads watching was that if they showed that game in Italy it would be on slo mo because it was so fast.
Two teams going for it and it was obvious that the team that scored first was likely to go on and win.
We all know that we need to score more goals, I feel we need to coach Jayrod to improve and that Rickie has had his day.
Is his replacement young Gallagher?
or do we nned to spend a lot of money and buy a proven striker?
There are a lot of teams who want to buy Suarez, and Sturridge is scoring freely and looking like a bargain for Liverpool.
Does any one have a suggestion as to who Saints could buy and would guarantee goals?
Chelsea signed Samuel Etoo and he was a goal scorer at every club he has played for, Ba and Torres are recognised strikers.
Every single club in every league is looking for that magic goal getter and they cost a small fortune and then they have to be kept once they prove to be the real deal.
Southampton are chasing Portuguese prodigy Rafa Silva, who has hit nine goals in 20 games for Braga this season.
This is a quote from the Mirror, if true, is he the one?
Is 9 goals in 20 a realistic return?
Are there any better out there?
Do we have a better striker in our youth system?
I support the Saints.
I am realistic, we are not going to win the league and all the chat earlier in the season about Champions League was a load of baloney.
We are at a position we deserve for our efforts so far, we will win some more and we will lose some too.
It isn't the end of the world to lose to Liverpool, ask Arsenal.
I enjoyed the game of football yesterday, I don't like losing but I could see the effort put in by my team was tremendous, another day we might have had some luck, might have got a penalty, might have had the ball go in instead of hitting the post.
Support the saints, you know it makes sense.
watched the game on telly and a comment from several lads watching was that if they showed that game in Italy it would be on slo mo because it was so fast. Two teams going for it and it was obvious that the team that scored first was likely to go on and win. We all know that we need to score more goals, I feel we need to coach Jayrod to improve and that Rickie has had his day. Is his replacement young Gallagher? or do we nned to spend a lot of money and buy a proven striker? There are a lot of teams who want to buy Suarez, and Sturridge is scoring freely and looking like a bargain for Liverpool. Does any one have a suggestion as to who Saints could buy and would guarantee goals? Chelsea signed Samuel Etoo and he was a goal scorer at every club he has played for, Ba and Torres are recognised strikers. Every single club in every league is looking for that magic goal getter and they cost a small fortune and then they have to be kept once they prove to be the real deal. Southampton are chasing Portuguese prodigy Rafa Silva, who has hit nine goals in 20 games for Braga this season. This is a quote from the Mirror, if true, is he the one? Is 9 goals in 20 a realistic return? Are there any better out there? Do we have a better striker in our youth system? I support the Saints. I am realistic, we are not going to win the league and all the chat earlier in the season about Champions League was a load of baloney. We are at a position we deserve for our efforts so far, we will win some more and we will lose some too. It isn't the end of the world to lose to Liverpool, ask Arsenal. I enjoyed the game of football yesterday, I don't like losing but I could see the effort put in by my team was tremendous, another day we might have had some luck, might have got a penalty, might have had the ball go in instead of hitting the post. Support the saints, you know it makes sense. dadofmy3sons
  • Score: 7

3:34pm Sun 2 Mar 14

JohnItaly says...

Velleity wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs.

In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.
Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble.

Just so you know. It isn't and we did.

Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you.

How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?
The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs. In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.[/p][/quote]Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble. Just so you know. It isn't and we did. Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you. How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?[/p][/quote]The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature JohnItaly
  • Score: 1

3:34pm Sun 2 Mar 14

JohnItaly says...

Velleity wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs.

In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.
Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble.

Just so you know. It isn't and we did.

Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you.

How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?
The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs. In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.[/p][/quote]Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble. Just so you know. It isn't and we did. Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you. How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?[/p][/quote]The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature JohnItaly
  • Score: 3

3:48pm Sun 2 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

loosehead wrote:
could these latest results be because MOPO is leaving in the summer?
All you fans have been saying about the defence & now we don't seem to have a striker worth talking about?
where did the money from Os go? sell Ramirez & use the money to buy?
Oh! it's to late we have to secure our place with what we've got .how many points away from the drop zone are we?
Just answer this why oh why didn't we buy in the transfer window?
It's okay saying we have the youngsters coming through but they're not ready as has been proven by our latest results
could the latest results be because we had injuries to major players who are now just coming back into the team? could they be because MP is staying and wants to see which of the `back up` players and `kids` will be good enough for next season? we haven't all been moaning about the defence but we know we need to either replace or bring in cover at CB. we do have strikers worth talking about, three attacking players in the latest England squad, but having lost a main striker through no fault of the clubs there is little competition and SRL looks tired and needs a rest.
what money from dani? we haven't sold him yet. we cant sell gaston at the moment, but why would we? no we cant buy anyone so we do have to go with what we`ve got, and the reason we didn't buy in the window is, NC left, dani kicked off and had to leave but that happened too late in the window to do much business ourselves, we also didn't want to panic buy someone who wasn't the right player, transfer fees are too expensive in jan and as we are already safe there is no need to spend over the top. we are 15 points from the `drop zone` and as we already have 39pts there is little chance, if any of getting drawn into the relegation dogfight. what youngsters aren't ready? the only new `youngster` who has been brought into the team is big sam the rest of the team have been regulars throughout the season. so I don't think you can blame the youth for our recent losses. anyway as we are safe, and we are, why shouldn't we play some of the younger players? if their not ready now it is the perfect opportunity to get them ready for next season when they might be call on.
2012/13 39pts stayed up
2011/12 37pts
2010/11 40pts
09/10 35pts
08/09 35pts
07/08 36pts
06/07 38pts
05/06 38pts
04/05 34pts
03/04 39pts
so over the last ten prem seasons the highest points total needed to stay up was 40 and 39 twice, so we are 1pt from the highest needed already and we have ten games to go, do you now really believe that we are in trouble? does anyone really think that we are unable to gain 1 more point from the ten games? and even if we lost everyone of the games the teams down the bottom would have to win five of their last ten to catch us they would then also have o have a goal difference change of 14 over us.
hope that helps.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: could these latest results be because MOPO is leaving in the summer? All you fans have been saying about the defence & now we don't seem to have a striker worth talking about? where did the money from Os go? sell Ramirez & use the money to buy? Oh! it's to late we have to secure our place with what we've got .how many points away from the drop zone are we? Just answer this why oh why didn't we buy in the transfer window? It's okay saying we have the youngsters coming through but they're not ready as has been proven by our latest results[/p][/quote]could the latest results be because we had injuries to major players who are now just coming back into the team? could they be because MP is staying and wants to see which of the `back up` players and `kids` will be good enough for next season? we haven't all been moaning about the defence but we know we need to either replace or bring in cover at CB. we do have strikers worth talking about, three attacking players in the latest England squad, but having lost a main striker through no fault of the clubs there is little competition and SRL looks tired and needs a rest. what money from dani? we haven't sold him yet. we cant sell gaston at the moment, but why would we? no we cant buy anyone so we do have to go with what we`ve got, and the reason we didn't buy in the window is, NC left, dani kicked off and had to leave but that happened too late in the window to do much business ourselves, we also didn't want to panic buy someone who wasn't the right player, transfer fees are too expensive in jan and as we are already safe there is no need to spend over the top. we are 15 points from the `drop zone` and as we already have 39pts there is little chance, if any of getting drawn into the relegation dogfight. what youngsters aren't ready? the only new `youngster` who has been brought into the team is big sam the rest of the team have been regulars throughout the season. so I don't think you can blame the youth for our recent losses. anyway as we are safe, and we are, why shouldn't we play some of the younger players? if their not ready now it is the perfect opportunity to get them ready for next season when they might be call on. 2012/13 39pts stayed up 2011/12 37pts 2010/11 40pts 09/10 35pts 08/09 35pts 07/08 36pts 06/07 38pts 05/06 38pts 04/05 34pts 03/04 39pts so over the last ten prem seasons the highest points total needed to stay up was 40 and 39 twice, so we are 1pt from the highest needed already and we have ten games to go, do you now really believe that we are in trouble? does anyone really think that we are unable to gain 1 more point from the ten games? and even if we lost everyone of the games the teams down the bottom would have to win five of their last ten to catch us they would then also have o have a goal difference change of 14 over us. hope that helps. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

3:54pm Sun 2 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
watched the game on telly and a comment from several lads watching was that if they showed that game in Italy it would be on slo mo because it was so fast.
Two teams going for it and it was obvious that the team that scored first was likely to go on and win.
We all know that we need to score more goals, I feel we need to coach Jayrod to improve and that Rickie has had his day.
Is his replacement young Gallagher?
or do we nned to spend a lot of money and buy a proven striker?
There are a lot of teams who want to buy Suarez, and Sturridge is scoring freely and looking like a bargain for Liverpool.
Does any one have a suggestion as to who Saints could buy and would guarantee goals?
Chelsea signed Samuel Etoo and he was a goal scorer at every club he has played for, Ba and Torres are recognised strikers.
Every single club in every league is looking for that magic goal getter and they cost a small fortune and then they have to be kept once they prove to be the real deal.
Southampton are chasing Portuguese prodigy Rafa Silva, who has hit nine goals in 20 games for Braga this season.
This is a quote from the Mirror, if true, is he the one?
Is 9 goals in 20 a realistic return?
Are there any better out there?
Do we have a better striker in our youth system?
I support the Saints.
I am realistic, we are not going to win the league and all the chat earlier in the season about Champions League was a load of baloney.
We are at a position we deserve for our efforts so far, we will win some more and we will lose some too.
It isn't the end of the world to lose to Liverpool, ask Arsenal.
I enjoyed the game of football yesterday, I don't like losing but I could see the effort put in by my team was tremendous, another day we might have had some luck, might have got a penalty, might have had the ball go in instead of hitting the post.
Support the saints, you know it makes sense.
Mayuka? is he good enough to come back and force his way into the team?
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: watched the game on telly and a comment from several lads watching was that if they showed that game in Italy it would be on slo mo because it was so fast. Two teams going for it and it was obvious that the team that scored first was likely to go on and win. We all know that we need to score more goals, I feel we need to coach Jayrod to improve and that Rickie has had his day. Is his replacement young Gallagher? or do we nned to spend a lot of money and buy a proven striker? There are a lot of teams who want to buy Suarez, and Sturridge is scoring freely and looking like a bargain for Liverpool. Does any one have a suggestion as to who Saints could buy and would guarantee goals? Chelsea signed Samuel Etoo and he was a goal scorer at every club he has played for, Ba and Torres are recognised strikers. Every single club in every league is looking for that magic goal getter and they cost a small fortune and then they have to be kept once they prove to be the real deal. Southampton are chasing Portuguese prodigy Rafa Silva, who has hit nine goals in 20 games for Braga this season. This is a quote from the Mirror, if true, is he the one? Is 9 goals in 20 a realistic return? Are there any better out there? Do we have a better striker in our youth system? I support the Saints. I am realistic, we are not going to win the league and all the chat earlier in the season about Champions League was a load of baloney. We are at a position we deserve for our efforts so far, we will win some more and we will lose some too. It isn't the end of the world to lose to Liverpool, ask Arsenal. I enjoyed the game of football yesterday, I don't like losing but I could see the effort put in by my team was tremendous, another day we might have had some luck, might have got a penalty, might have had the ball go in instead of hitting the post. Support the saints, you know it makes sense.[/p][/quote]Mayuka? is he good enough to come back and force his way into the team? el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

3:58pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Clever Dick says...

The difference yesterday was purely Aguero. Liverpool would be mid table without him. He's a nasty horrible little sh#t and I'd love to have him in the side. Fonte didn't foul him for the pen. He left his foot in and the next big team referee to arrive at St. Marys got his wish and gave them an undeserved penalty.For all the doom mongers on here I have a few mates who are neutrals and they said it was a very good game to watch. We are a bit lacking in firepower at the moment. I think this is because the club took the decision not to replace Osvaldo in the window due to the inflated prices. We will still be picking up plenty more points this season when our luck changes and I've no doubt there will be some quite exciting incoming transfers next season.
The difference yesterday was purely Aguero. Liverpool would be mid table without him. He's a nasty horrible little sh#t and I'd love to have him in the side. Fonte didn't foul him for the pen. He left his foot in and the next big team referee to arrive at St. Marys got his wish and gave them an undeserved penalty.For all the doom mongers on here I have a few mates who are neutrals and they said it was a very good game to watch. We are a bit lacking in firepower at the moment. I think this is because the club took the decision not to replace Osvaldo in the window due to the inflated prices. We will still be picking up plenty more points this season when our luck changes and I've no doubt there will be some quite exciting incoming transfers next season. Clever Dick
  • Score: -1

4:04pm Sun 2 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

mancy had a penalty appeal turned down today at 2-1 up. it looked exactly the same as the one suarez `won` yesterday for diverpool. that's what annoys us fans, why cant refs be consistent with these decisions. it wouldn't have changed our result but its bl00dy annoying. also there have been a few dives this weekend, sturridge for one, and not one yellow card was issued, looks like the fa have given up on trying to stop it then.
mancy had a penalty appeal turned down today at 2-1 up. it looked exactly the same as the one suarez `won` yesterday for diverpool. that's what annoys us fans, why cant refs be consistent with these decisions. it wouldn't have changed our result but its bl00dy annoying. also there have been a few dives this weekend, sturridge for one, and not one yellow card was issued, looks like the fa have given up on trying to stop it then. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

4:09pm Sun 2 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Happy birthday Mauricio. I hope you celebrate many more as Southampton manager.
Happy birthday Mauricio. I hope you celebrate many more as Southampton manager. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 4

4:09pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Even Percy me Parrot has gone nuts we have been found out playing high aint going to work in the Prem never mind He calmed down now with his Sunflower Seeds!
Even Percy me Parrot has gone nuts we have been found out playing high aint going to work in the Prem never mind He calmed down now with his Sunflower Seeds! Fatty x Ford Worker
  • Score: 0

4:13pm Sun 2 Mar 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

Clever Dick wrote:
The difference yesterday was purely Aguero. Liverpool would be mid table without him. He's a nasty horrible little sh#t and I'd love to have him in the side. Fonte didn't foul him for the pen. He left his foot in and the next big team referee to arrive at St. Marys got his wish and gave them an undeserved penalty.For all the doom mongers on here I have a few mates who are neutrals and they said it was a very good game to watch. We are a bit lacking in firepower at the moment. I think this is because the club took the decision not to replace Osvaldo in the window due to the inflated prices. We will still be picking up plenty more points this season when our luck changes and I've no doubt there will be some quite exciting incoming transfers next season.
Who????????
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: The difference yesterday was purely Aguero. Liverpool would be mid table without him. He's a nasty horrible little sh#t and I'd love to have him in the side. Fonte didn't foul him for the pen. He left his foot in and the next big team referee to arrive at St. Marys got his wish and gave them an undeserved penalty.For all the doom mongers on here I have a few mates who are neutrals and they said it was a very good game to watch. We are a bit lacking in firepower at the moment. I think this is because the club took the decision not to replace Osvaldo in the window due to the inflated prices. We will still be picking up plenty more points this season when our luck changes and I've no doubt there will be some quite exciting incoming transfers next season.[/p][/quote]Who???????? worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: -3

4:32pm Sun 2 Mar 14

in search of the truth says...

There was nothing unfair about Liverpool thrashing Southampton 3 - 0 yesterday, the better team won on the day.

If Southampton had lost by 1 goal then that could have been thought of, as being possibly unfair or unfortunate. But losing by 3 goals to nil can never in any shape or form be construed as unfair.
There was nothing unfair about Liverpool thrashing Southampton 3 - 0 yesterday, the better team won on the day. If Southampton had lost by 1 goal then that could have been thought of, as being possibly unfair or unfortunate. But losing by 3 goals to nil can never in any shape or form be construed as unfair. in search of the truth
  • Score: 0

4:37pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Totally Oblivious says...

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
The difference yesterday was purely Aguero. Liverpool would be mid table without him. He's a nasty horrible little sh#t and I'd love to have him in the side. Fonte didn't foul him for the pen. He left his foot in and the next big team referee to arrive at St. Marys got his wish and gave them an undeserved penalty.For all the doom mongers on here I have a few mates who are neutrals and they said it was a very good game to watch. We are a bit lacking in firepower at the moment. I think this is because the club took the decision not to replace Osvaldo in the window due to the inflated prices. We will still be picking up plenty more points this season when our luck changes and I've no doubt there will be some quite exciting incoming transfers next season.
Who????????
Ings of Burnley would be a useful acquisition. Though If they go up they'll probably want to keep him. He gave our defence a hard time in the cup, although I think it was Hoover and Maya playing.
[quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: The difference yesterday was purely Aguero. Liverpool would be mid table without him. He's a nasty horrible little sh#t and I'd love to have him in the side. Fonte didn't foul him for the pen. He left his foot in and the next big team referee to arrive at St. Marys got his wish and gave them an undeserved penalty.For all the doom mongers on here I have a few mates who are neutrals and they said it was a very good game to watch. We are a bit lacking in firepower at the moment. I think this is because the club took the decision not to replace Osvaldo in the window due to the inflated prices. We will still be picking up plenty more points this season when our luck changes and I've no doubt there will be some quite exciting incoming transfers next season.[/p][/quote]Who????????[/p][/quote]Ings of Burnley would be a useful acquisition. Though If they go up they'll probably want to keep him. He gave our defence a hard time in the cup, although I think it was Hoover and Maya playing. Totally Oblivious
  • Score: -1

4:43pm Sun 2 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

JohnItaly wrote:
Velleity wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs.

In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.
Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble.

Just so you know. It isn't and we did.

Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you.

How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?
The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature
Mr Italy I`m not having a go at you here because you often make good points, however your last sentence could be interpreted as coming from a fan who only sees the negative side of things, I know that's not true though. as I said yesterday when you said the same thing, a poor end to the season could be what MP needs to show KL that money needs to be spent on the squad, money being spent then shows the squad that the club are serious about their ambitions.

I think velleity was just making the point that stats can be used to prove anything you like. for example if you only count games in which Big Vic started for us we would be a lot further up the league. the only stat that really matters is the league table and being 9th is not a bad stat considering everything that has gone on this season.
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs. In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.[/p][/quote]Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble. Just so you know. It isn't and we did. Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you. How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?[/p][/quote]The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature[/p][/quote]Mr Italy I`m not having a go at you here because you often make good points, however your last sentence could be interpreted as coming from a fan who only sees the negative side of things, I know that's not true though. as I said yesterday when you said the same thing, a poor end to the season could be what MP needs to show KL that money needs to be spent on the squad, money being spent then shows the squad that the club are serious about their ambitions. I think velleity was just making the point that stats can be used to prove anything you like. for example if you only count games in which Big Vic started for us we would be a lot further up the league. the only stat that really matters is the league table and being 9th is not a bad stat considering everything that has gone on this season. el caballo santos101
  • Score: -1

4:49pm Sun 2 Mar 14

bitterne barry says...

Re. yesterdays game was Steve Davis injured or was it a tactical decision to replace him at half time.If it was tactical it was bad mistake again by manager as it effected balance and rythmn of side with apart from the first 5 minutes Gaston was on he offered nothing to team
Re. yesterdays game was Steve Davis injured or was it a tactical decision to replace him at half time.If it was tactical it was bad mistake again by manager as it effected balance and rythmn of side with apart from the first 5 minutes Gaston was on he offered nothing to team bitterne barry
  • Score: 4

4:55pm Sun 2 Mar 14

st1halo says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
mancy had a penalty appeal turned down today at 2-1 up. it looked exactly the same as the one suarez `won` yesterday for diverpool. that's what annoys us fans, why cant refs be consistent with these decisions. it wouldn't have changed our result but its bl00dy annoying. also there have been a few dives this weekend, sturridge for one, and not one yellow card was issued, looks like the fa have given up on trying to stop it then.
Totally agree. And pundits seem to be offering excuses now by saying things like 'if a defender leaves his leg there, an attacker will take the opportunity to go down'
Take the opporunity? That means dive! That means cheat! Liverpool top the penalties awarded this season, something the FA should investgate..
I am so disillusioned wih the penalty situation now that it spoils my enjoyment of the game and think they should get rid of it. It has become a joke. Be interesting to compare figures of how many players fall down in the box if they did get rid. I know it won't happen.

STID
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: mancy had a penalty appeal turned down today at 2-1 up. it looked exactly the same as the one suarez `won` yesterday for diverpool. that's what annoys us fans, why cant refs be consistent with these decisions. it wouldn't have changed our result but its bl00dy annoying. also there have been a few dives this weekend, sturridge for one, and not one yellow card was issued, looks like the fa have given up on trying to stop it then.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. And pundits seem to be offering excuses now by saying things like 'if a defender leaves his leg there, an attacker will take the opportunity to go down' Take the opporunity? That means dive! That means cheat! Liverpool top the penalties awarded this season, something the FA should investgate.. I am so disillusioned wih the penalty situation now that it spoils my enjoyment of the game and think they should get rid of it. It has become a joke. Be interesting to compare figures of how many players fall down in the box if they did get rid. I know it won't happen. STID st1halo
  • Score: 3

5:05pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Rank Xerox says...

derek james wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.
You don't say if you are a season ticket holder, if so if they are there again report them to the police or a steward. Our club will not allow this IF THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.
I'm not a season ticket but have been to most games and usually sit in block 10 but because every man and his dog wanted a ticket for this game I got tickets in 11 as there were 4 of us. Moving forwards if the only seats are near the bigots that I sat near yesterday I'll opt to watch on TV instead.
get over it, anyone who watched in the 70's and 80's heard far worse!
Derek James...you sound like a complete d*ck
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Disappointing result but I'm disappointed tonight as I and everyone else had to put up with 4 middle aged intoxicated abusive and racist men for the full 90 minutes when small children were nearby. Itchen, Block 11, Row CC, seat 300 was the worst culprit. I thought those days were long gone.[/p][/quote]You don't say if you are a season ticket holder, if so if they are there again report them to the police or a steward. Our club will not allow this IF THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.[/p][/quote]I'm not a season ticket but have been to most games and usually sit in block 10 but because every man and his dog wanted a ticket for this game I got tickets in 11 as there were 4 of us. Moving forwards if the only seats are near the bigots that I sat near yesterday I'll opt to watch on TV instead.[/p][/quote]get over it, anyone who watched in the 70's and 80's heard far worse![/p][/quote]Derek James...you sound like a complete d*ck Rank Xerox
  • Score: 3

5:18pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Velleity says...

JohnItaly wrote:
Velleity wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs.

In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.
Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble.

Just so you know. It isn't and we did.

Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you.

How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?
The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature
Call the final statements asinine if you wish but what I was trying to illustrate is that you can select any subset of statistics and prove that we're doing badly.

Surely what matters is how we've done overall. Would you be happier if the games had come out of the fixture computer in reverse order, so a bad start to the season with a rapid rise to 9th? Your comments suggest so.

Sorry if you consider that question asinine as well, but it's interesting that exactly the same set of results against exactly the same teams would probably have left you content.

I'm really not trying to attack, just to clarify that I believe it's where we actually are that matters, now who we've beaten and who we've not beaten to get here.
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs. In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.[/p][/quote]Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble. Just so you know. It isn't and we did. Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you. How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?[/p][/quote]The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature[/p][/quote]Call the final statements asinine if you wish but what I was trying to illustrate is that you can select any subset of statistics and prove that we're doing badly. Surely what matters is how we've done overall. Would you be happier if the games had come out of the fixture computer in reverse order, so a bad start to the season with a rapid rise to 9th? Your comments suggest so. Sorry if you consider that question asinine as well, but it's interesting that exactly the same set of results against exactly the same teams would probably have left you content. I'm really not trying to attack, just to clarify that I believe it's where we actually are that matters, now who we've beaten and who we've not beaten to get here. Velleity
  • Score: 0

5:21pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Velleity says...

Clever Dick wrote:
The difference yesterday was purely Aguero. Liverpool would be mid table without him. He's a nasty horrible little sh#t and I'd love to have him in the side. Fonte didn't foul him for the pen. He left his foot in and the next big team referee to arrive at St. Marys got his wish and gave them an undeserved penalty.For all the doom mongers on here I have a few mates who are neutrals and they said it was a very good game to watch. We are a bit lacking in firepower at the moment. I think this is because the club took the decision not to replace Osvaldo in the window due to the inflated prices. We will still be picking up plenty more points this season when our luck changes and I've no doubt there will be some quite exciting incoming transfers next season.
Aguero? Can't have been that good; I didn't even notice he was on the pitch.

However, I agree with you, Fonte definitely didn't foul Aguero. I'm sure of that.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: The difference yesterday was purely Aguero. Liverpool would be mid table without him. He's a nasty horrible little sh#t and I'd love to have him in the side. Fonte didn't foul him for the pen. He left his foot in and the next big team referee to arrive at St. Marys got his wish and gave them an undeserved penalty.For all the doom mongers on here I have a few mates who are neutrals and they said it was a very good game to watch. We are a bit lacking in firepower at the moment. I think this is because the club took the decision not to replace Osvaldo in the window due to the inflated prices. We will still be picking up plenty more points this season when our luck changes and I've no doubt there will be some quite exciting incoming transfers next season.[/p][/quote]Aguero? Can't have been that good; I didn't even notice he was on the pitch. However, I agree with you, Fonte definitely didn't foul Aguero. I'm sure of that. Velleity
  • Score: 4

5:32pm Sun 2 Mar 14

st bevois says...

JohnItaly wrote:
Velleity wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs.

In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.
Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble.

Just so you know. It isn't and we did.

Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you.

How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?
The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature
And the most important thing (so everyone generally acknowledges) is to do better against the teams around and below you. This we have done for the greater part with odd exceptions and we have put ourselves top of the pile below the normal Euro contenders because of that. We don't have Aguerro or Suarez or Oscar. Part of the reason Manure are struggling is the lack of goals. Van Persie won them that Title la year. Lallana was man of the match for the first 60 mins - but he couldn't score or make the difference on the day - although should have been awarded a clear penalty and things could have been oh so different (what price the ref being consistent in the same position at the other end). Are we paying the price as a club for the public fuss made over Clattenburg? Or is it poor ref, big club it is syndrome again? Love him or loathe him Suarez poached a goal and one moment of class against the run of play and we were in the same position at roughly the same time as we were at West Ham ie 2 goals down. After that we ran out of steam. Gerrard got that one opportunity to make an incisive pass and he did, otherwise he was hardly in the game. The annoying thing is that Boruc had hardly anything to contend with other than the odd corner or back pass for the first 60 mins. So I personally think the way we play is pretty effective - we just don't have all the right players to make it work, and as luck would have it Loren got "done" by Suarez for one moment in is first match back. One or two old favourites might have to make way for the right players - if we can find them. Just want us to remain top of the pile if we can get no higher this season. For Roy it was more a case of Uruguay 3 England 0.
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs. In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.[/p][/quote]Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble. Just so you know. It isn't and we did. Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you. How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?[/p][/quote]The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature[/p][/quote]And the most important thing (so everyone generally acknowledges) is to do better against the teams around and below you. This we have done for the greater part with odd exceptions and we have put ourselves top of the pile below the normal Euro contenders because of that. We don't have Aguerro or Suarez or Oscar. Part of the reason Manure are struggling is the lack of goals. Van Persie won them that Title la year. Lallana was man of the match for the first 60 mins - but he couldn't score or make the difference on the day - although should have been awarded a clear penalty and things could have been oh so different (what price the ref being consistent in the same position at the other end). Are we paying the price as a club for the public fuss made over Clattenburg? Or is it poor ref, big club it is syndrome again? Love him or loathe him Suarez poached a goal and one moment of class against the run of play and we were in the same position at roughly the same time as we were at West Ham ie 2 goals down. After that we ran out of steam. Gerrard got that one opportunity to make an incisive pass and he did, otherwise he was hardly in the game. The annoying thing is that Boruc had hardly anything to contend with other than the odd corner or back pass for the first 60 mins. So I personally think the way we play is pretty effective - we just don't have all the right players to make it work, and as luck would have it Loren got "done" by Suarez for one moment in is first match back. One or two old favourites might have to make way for the right players - if we can find them. Just want us to remain top of the pile if we can get no higher this season. For Roy it was more a case of Uruguay 3 England 0. st bevois
  • Score: 2

5:36pm Sun 2 Mar 14

killared says...

People keep saying it wasn't a penalty but the fact is our striker didn't perform at all the only players who work really hard were lalana and fonte . Young Sam should start next game , lambert was a shadow and didn't link up with our midfield. I would like to apologies for my swearing yesterday in itchen stand.
People keep saying it wasn't a penalty but the fact is our striker didn't perform at all the only players who work really hard were lalana and fonte . Young Sam should start next game , lambert was a shadow and didn't link up with our midfield. I would like to apologies for my swearing yesterday in itchen stand. killared
  • Score: -1

5:38pm Sun 2 Mar 14

JohnItaly says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
Velleity wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs.

In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.
Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble.

Just so you know. It isn't and we did.

Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you.

How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?
The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature
Mr Italy I`m not having a go at you here because you often make good points, however your last sentence could be interpreted as coming from a fan who only sees the negative side of things, I know that's not true though. as I said yesterday when you said the same thing, a poor end to the season could be what MP needs to show KL that money needs to be spent on the squad, money being spent then shows the squad that the club are serious about their ambitions.

I think velleity was just making the point that stats can be used to prove anything you like. for example if you only count games in which Big Vic started for us we would be a lot further up the league. the only stat that really matters is the league table and being 9th is not a bad stat considering everything that has gone on this season.
I'm perfectly happy to accept that stats can often be presented in such a fashion to prove that black is actually white but one has to accept there are stats that are undeniable and do reflect the situation as it is. 17 points from 17 games is one such statistic. Couple this with possession and shot stats from numerous games this season that show Saints have dominated opponents but come away with one point at best and often with nothing to show for the team's efforts. They shows changes have to be made to improve this situation. I believe MoPo is good for the Club and if he has ambitions to stay with the Saints and move us to the next level, i.e. top six, then I consider a good end of season will strength his case to persuade KL to invest further in the Club. Further to this if KL wishes to sell the Club then again a good finish will attract more potential buyers. In addition a positive run in may well encourage players like Shaw / Lallana to stay as well as putting Saints in a stronger position to attract the better players which we will surely need to progress.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs. In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.[/p][/quote]Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble. Just so you know. It isn't and we did. Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you. How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?[/p][/quote]The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature[/p][/quote]Mr Italy I`m not having a go at you here because you often make good points, however your last sentence could be interpreted as coming from a fan who only sees the negative side of things, I know that's not true though. as I said yesterday when you said the same thing, a poor end to the season could be what MP needs to show KL that money needs to be spent on the squad, money being spent then shows the squad that the club are serious about their ambitions. I think velleity was just making the point that stats can be used to prove anything you like. for example if you only count games in which Big Vic started for us we would be a lot further up the league. the only stat that really matters is the league table and being 9th is not a bad stat considering everything that has gone on this season.[/p][/quote]I'm perfectly happy to accept that stats can often be presented in such a fashion to prove that black is actually white but one has to accept there are stats that are undeniable and do reflect the situation as it is. 17 points from 17 games is one such statistic. Couple this with possession and shot stats from numerous games this season that show Saints have dominated opponents but come away with one point at best and often with nothing to show for the team's efforts. They shows changes have to be made to improve this situation. I believe MoPo is good for the Club and if he has ambitions to stay with the Saints and move us to the next level, i.e. top six, then I consider a good end of season will strength his case to persuade KL to invest further in the Club. Further to this if KL wishes to sell the Club then again a good finish will attract more potential buyers. In addition a positive run in may well encourage players like Shaw / Lallana to stay as well as putting Saints in a stronger position to attract the better players which we will surely need to progress. JohnItaly
  • Score: 1

5:54pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Clever Dick says...

Velleity wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
The difference yesterday was purely Aguero. Liverpool would be mid table without him. He's a nasty horrible little sh#t and I'd love to have him in the side. Fonte didn't foul him for the pen. He left his foot in and the next big team referee to arrive at St. Marys got his wish and gave them an undeserved penalty.For all the doom mongers on here I have a few mates who are neutrals and they said it was a very good game to watch. We are a bit lacking in firepower at the moment. I think this is because the club took the decision not to replace Osvaldo in the window due to the inflated prices. We will still be picking up plenty more points this season when our luck changes and I've no doubt there will be some quite exciting incoming transfers next season.
Aguero? Can't have been that good; I didn't even notice he was on the pitch.

However, I agree with you, Fonte definitely didn't foul Aguero. I'm sure of that.
Yes. Silly error. I'm sure you worked out I meant that nasty little sh-t Suarez. I'd still have either of them. We're just too nice...........and handsome too.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: The difference yesterday was purely Aguero. Liverpool would be mid table without him. He's a nasty horrible little sh#t and I'd love to have him in the side. Fonte didn't foul him for the pen. He left his foot in and the next big team referee to arrive at St. Marys got his wish and gave them an undeserved penalty.For all the doom mongers on here I have a few mates who are neutrals and they said it was a very good game to watch. We are a bit lacking in firepower at the moment. I think this is because the club took the decision not to replace Osvaldo in the window due to the inflated prices. We will still be picking up plenty more points this season when our luck changes and I've no doubt there will be some quite exciting incoming transfers next season.[/p][/quote]Aguero? Can't have been that good; I didn't even notice he was on the pitch. However, I agree with you, Fonte definitely didn't foul Aguero. I'm sure of that.[/p][/quote]Yes. Silly error. I'm sure you worked out I meant that nasty little sh-t Suarez. I'd still have either of them. We're just too nice...........and handsome too. Clever Dick
  • Score: 3

6:09pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Jan28th1984 says...

10 games left - 10 friendlies to give max experience to the youngsters.
Gallagher to lead the attack from now on with Ricky on the bench.
Results are no longer important.
10 games left - 10 friendlies to give max experience to the youngsters. Gallagher to lead the attack from now on with Ricky on the bench. Results are no longer important. Jan28th1984
  • Score: 2

6:12pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Jan28th1984 says...

2014/15 season starts now.
2014/15 season starts now. Jan28th1984
  • Score: 0

6:29pm Sun 2 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

JohnItaly wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
Velleity wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs.

In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.
Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble.

Just so you know. It isn't and we did.

Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you.

How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?
The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature
Mr Italy I`m not having a go at you here because you often make good points, however your last sentence could be interpreted as coming from a fan who only sees the negative side of things, I know that's not true though. as I said yesterday when you said the same thing, a poor end to the season could be what MP needs to show KL that money needs to be spent on the squad, money being spent then shows the squad that the club are serious about their ambitions.

I think velleity was just making the point that stats can be used to prove anything you like. for example if you only count games in which Big Vic started for us we would be a lot further up the league. the only stat that really matters is the league table and being 9th is not a bad stat considering everything that has gone on this season.
I'm perfectly happy to accept that stats can often be presented in such a fashion to prove that black is actually white but one has to accept there are stats that are undeniable and do reflect the situation as it is. 17 points from 17 games is one such statistic. Couple this with possession and shot stats from numerous games this season that show Saints have dominated opponents but come away with one point at best and often with nothing to show for the team's efforts. They shows changes have to be made to improve this situation. I believe MoPo is good for the Club and if he has ambitions to stay with the Saints and move us to the next level, i.e. top six, then I consider a good end of season will strength his case to persuade KL to invest further in the Club. Further to this if KL wishes to sell the Club then again a good finish will attract more potential buyers. In addition a positive run in may well encourage players like Shaw / Lallana to stay as well as putting Saints in a stronger position to attract the better players which we will surely need to progress.
do you think the players we have or potential signings will worry much if we finish 7th 8th or 9th? because I think that's all we could have achieved this season, I any of those would be great. I know we had a great start to the season and we had a lot of momentum and confidence. that went out of the window when we got all those injuries. I know the media put it down to a drop in form but hoof had less injuries than us and the media made it an excuse for their form. any club hit with the injuries we had would suffer. we simply don't have the squad to cope, but it is only our second season in the prem and we still have a lot of players from L1 on the books, we will get a better squad but it cant be done overnight.
we can all speculate on whether KL wants to sell or not and about which players might come and go and even if MP will leave, but we just don't know what is going to happen.
I haven't seen a single shred of evidence that would suggest that KL wants to sell, doesn`t mean she wont though, in fact everything shes done suggests she might stay. the media delighted in telling us she was going to sell straight away, she hasn't. we were also informed by the media and many jealous fish that she had no interest in football - shes been to most games. she has installed a full board, not something you would do if you were going to sell the club and sack them just a couple of months later. as I say I might be completely wrong, it wouldn't be the first time!
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs. In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.[/p][/quote]Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble. Just so you know. It isn't and we did. Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you. How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?[/p][/quote]The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature[/p][/quote]Mr Italy I`m not having a go at you here because you often make good points, however your last sentence could be interpreted as coming from a fan who only sees the negative side of things, I know that's not true though. as I said yesterday when you said the same thing, a poor end to the season could be what MP needs to show KL that money needs to be spent on the squad, money being spent then shows the squad that the club are serious about their ambitions. I think velleity was just making the point that stats can be used to prove anything you like. for example if you only count games in which Big Vic started for us we would be a lot further up the league. the only stat that really matters is the league table and being 9th is not a bad stat considering everything that has gone on this season.[/p][/quote]I'm perfectly happy to accept that stats can often be presented in such a fashion to prove that black is actually white but one has to accept there are stats that are undeniable and do reflect the situation as it is. 17 points from 17 games is one such statistic. Couple this with possession and shot stats from numerous games this season that show Saints have dominated opponents but come away with one point at best and often with nothing to show for the team's efforts. They shows changes have to be made to improve this situation. I believe MoPo is good for the Club and if he has ambitions to stay with the Saints and move us to the next level, i.e. top six, then I consider a good end of season will strength his case to persuade KL to invest further in the Club. Further to this if KL wishes to sell the Club then again a good finish will attract more potential buyers. In addition a positive run in may well encourage players like Shaw / Lallana to stay as well as putting Saints in a stronger position to attract the better players which we will surely need to progress.[/p][/quote]do you think the players we have or potential signings will worry much if we finish 7th 8th or 9th? because I think that's all we could have achieved this season, I any of those would be great. I know we had a great start to the season and we had a lot of momentum and confidence. that went out of the window when we got all those injuries. I know the media put it down to a drop in form but hoof had less injuries than us and the media made it an excuse for their form. any club hit with the injuries we had would suffer. we simply don't have the squad to cope, but it is only our second season in the prem and we still have a lot of players from L1 on the books, we will get a better squad but it cant be done overnight. we can all speculate on whether KL wants to sell or not and about which players might come and go and even if MP will leave, but we just don't know what is going to happen. I haven't seen a single shred of evidence that would suggest that KL wants to sell, doesn`t mean she wont though, in fact everything shes done suggests she might stay. the media delighted in telling us she was going to sell straight away, she hasn't. we were also informed by the media and many jealous fish that she had no interest in football - shes been to most games. she has installed a full board, not something you would do if you were going to sell the club and sack them just a couple of months later. as I say I might be completely wrong, it wouldn't be the first time! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 2

6:49pm Sun 2 Mar 14

mack chinnon says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
Velleity wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs.

In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.
Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble.

Just so you know. It isn't and we did.

Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you.

How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?
The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature
Mr Italy I`m not having a go at you here because you often make good points, however your last sentence could be interpreted as coming from a fan who only sees the negative side of things, I know that's not true though. as I said yesterday when you said the same thing, a poor end to the season could be what MP needs to show KL that money needs to be spent on the squad, money being spent then shows the squad that the club are serious about their ambitions.

I think velleity was just making the point that stats can be used to prove anything you like. for example if you only count games in which Big Vic started for us we would be a lot further up the league. the only stat that really matters is the league table and being 9th is not a bad stat considering everything that has gone on this season.
I'm perfectly happy to accept that stats can often be presented in such a fashion to prove that black is actually white but one has to accept there are stats that are undeniable and do reflect the situation as it is. 17 points from 17 games is one such statistic. Couple this with possession and shot stats from numerous games this season that show Saints have dominated opponents but come away with one point at best and often with nothing to show for the team's efforts. They shows changes have to be made to improve this situation. I believe MoPo is good for the Club and if he has ambitions to stay with the Saints and move us to the next level, i.e. top six, then I consider a good end of season will strength his case to persuade KL to invest further in the Club. Further to this if KL wishes to sell the Club then again a good finish will attract more potential buyers. In addition a positive run in may well encourage players like Shaw / Lallana to stay as well as putting Saints in a stronger position to attract the better players which we will surely need to progress.
do you think the players we have or potential signings will worry much if we finish 7th 8th or 9th? because I think that's all we could have achieved this season, I any of those would be great. I know we had a great start to the season and we had a lot of momentum and confidence. that went out of the window when we got all those injuries. I know the media put it down to a drop in form but hoof had less injuries than us and the media made it an excuse for their form. any club hit with the injuries we had would suffer. we simply don't have the squad to cope, but it is only our second season in the prem and we still have a lot of players from L1 on the books, we will get a better squad but it cant be done overnight.
we can all speculate on whether KL wants to sell or not and about which players might come and go and even if MP will leave, but we just don't know what is going to happen.
I haven't seen a single shred of evidence that would suggest that KL wants to sell, doesn`t mean she wont though, in fact everything shes done suggests she might stay. the media delighted in telling us she was going to sell straight away, she hasn't. we were also informed by the media and many jealous fish that she had no interest in football - shes been to most games. she has installed a full board, not something you would do if you were going to sell the club and sack them just a couple of months later. as I say I might be completely wrong, it wouldn't be the first time!
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[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs. In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.[/p][/quote]Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble. Just so you know. It isn't and we did. Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you. How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?[/p][/quote]The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature[/p][/quote]Mr Italy I`m not having a go at you here because you often make good points, however your last sentence could be interpreted as coming from a fan who only sees the negative side of things, I know that's not true though. as I said yesterday when you said the same thing, a poor end to the season could be what MP needs to show KL that money needs to be spent on the squad, money being spent then shows the squad that the club are serious about their ambitions. I think velleity was just making the point that stats can be used to prove anything you like. for example if you only count games in which Big Vic started for us we would be a lot further up the league. the only stat that really matters is the league table and being 9th is not a bad stat considering everything that has gone on this season.[/p][/quote]I'm perfectly happy to accept that stats can often be presented in such a fashion to prove that black is actually white but one has to accept there are stats that are undeniable and do reflect the situation as it is. 17 points from 17 games is one such statistic. Couple this with possession and shot stats from numerous games this season that show Saints have dominated opponents but come away with one point at best and often with nothing to show for the team's efforts. They shows changes have to be made to improve this situation. I believe MoPo is good for the Club and if he has ambitions to stay with the Saints and move us to the next level, i.e. top six, then I consider a good end of season will strength his case to persuade KL to invest further in the Club. Further to this if KL wishes to sell the Club then again a good finish will attract more potential buyers. In addition a positive run in may well encourage players like Shaw / Lallana to stay as well as putting Saints in a stronger position to attract the better players which we will surely need to progress.[/p][/quote]do you think the players we have or potential signings will worry much if we finish 7th 8th or 9th? because I think that's all we could have achieved this season, I any of those would be great. I know we had a great start to the season and we had a lot of momentum and confidence. that went out of the window when we got all those injuries. I know the media put it down to a drop in form but hoof had less injuries than us and the media made it an excuse for their form. any club hit with the injuries we had would suffer. we simply don't have the squad to cope, but it is only our second season in the prem and we still have a lot of players from L1 on the books, we will get a better squad but it cant be done overnight. we can all speculate on whether KL wants to sell or not and about which players might come and go and even if MP will leave, but we just don't know what is going to happen. I haven't seen a single shred of evidence that would suggest that KL wants to sell, doesn`t mean she wont though, in fact everything shes done suggests she might stay. the media delighted in telling us she was going to sell straight away, she hasn't. we were also informed by the media and many jealous fish that she had no interest in football - shes been to most games. she has installed a full board, not something you would do if you were going to sell the club and sack them just a couple of months later. as I say I might be completely wrong, it wouldn't be the first time![/p][/quote]Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzz mack chinnon
  • Score: -6

7:06pm Sun 2 Mar 14

peregrine73 says...

mack chinnon wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
Velleity wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs.

In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.
Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble.

Just so you know. It isn't and we did.

Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you.

How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?
The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature
Mr Italy I`m not having a go at you here because you often make good points, however your last sentence could be interpreted as coming from a fan who only sees the negative side of things, I know that's not true though. as I said yesterday when you said the same thing, a poor end to the season could be what MP needs to show KL that money needs to be spent on the squad, money being spent then shows the squad that the club are serious about their ambitions.

I think velleity was just making the point that stats can be used to prove anything you like. for example if you only count games in which Big Vic started for us we would be a lot further up the league. the only stat that really matters is the league table and being 9th is not a bad stat considering everything that has gone on this season.
I'm perfectly happy to accept that stats can often be presented in such a fashion to prove that black is actually white but one has to accept there are stats that are undeniable and do reflect the situation as it is. 17 points from 17 games is one such statistic. Couple this with possession and shot stats from numerous games this season that show Saints have dominated opponents but come away with one point at best and often with nothing to show for the team's efforts. They shows changes have to be made to improve this situation. I believe MoPo is good for the Club and if he has ambitions to stay with the Saints and move us to the next level, i.e. top six, then I consider a good end of season will strength his case to persuade KL to invest further in the Club. Further to this if KL wishes to sell the Club then again a good finish will attract more potential buyers. In addition a positive run in may well encourage players like Shaw / Lallana to stay as well as putting Saints in a stronger position to attract the better players which we will surely need to progress.
do you think the players we have or potential signings will worry much if we finish 7th 8th or 9th? because I think that's all we could have achieved this season, I any of those would be great. I know we had a great start to the season and we had a lot of momentum and confidence. that went out of the window when we got all those injuries. I know the media put it down to a drop in form but hoof had less injuries than us and the media made it an excuse for their form. any club hit with the injuries we had would suffer. we simply don't have the squad to cope, but it is only our second season in the prem and we still have a lot of players from L1 on the books, we will get a better squad but it cant be done overnight.
we can all speculate on whether KL wants to sell or not and about which players might come and go and even if MP will leave, but we just don't know what is going to happen.
I haven't seen a single shred of evidence that would suggest that KL wants to sell, doesn`t mean she wont though, in fact everything shes done suggests she might stay. the media delighted in telling us she was going to sell straight away, she hasn't. we were also informed by the media and many jealous fish that she had no interest in football - shes been to most games. she has installed a full board, not something you would do if you were going to sell the club and sack them just a couple of months later. as I say I might be completely wrong, it wouldn't be the first time!
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Good analysis, shame about the response!
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs. In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.[/p][/quote]Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble. Just so you know. It isn't and we did. Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you. How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?[/p][/quote]The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature[/p][/quote]Mr Italy I`m not having a go at you here because you often make good points, however your last sentence could be interpreted as coming from a fan who only sees the negative side of things, I know that's not true though. as I said yesterday when you said the same thing, a poor end to the season could be what MP needs to show KL that money needs to be spent on the squad, money being spent then shows the squad that the club are serious about their ambitions. I think velleity was just making the point that stats can be used to prove anything you like. for example if you only count games in which Big Vic started for us we would be a lot further up the league. the only stat that really matters is the league table and being 9th is not a bad stat considering everything that has gone on this season.[/p][/quote]I'm perfectly happy to accept that stats can often be presented in such a fashion to prove that black is actually white but one has to accept there are stats that are undeniable and do reflect the situation as it is. 17 points from 17 games is one such statistic. Couple this with possession and shot stats from numerous games this season that show Saints have dominated opponents but come away with one point at best and often with nothing to show for the team's efforts. They shows changes have to be made to improve this situation. I believe MoPo is good for the Club and if he has ambitions to stay with the Saints and move us to the next level, i.e. top six, then I consider a good end of season will strength his case to persuade KL to invest further in the Club. Further to this if KL wishes to sell the Club then again a good finish will attract more potential buyers. In addition a positive run in may well encourage players like Shaw / Lallana to stay as well as putting Saints in a stronger position to attract the better players which we will surely need to progress.[/p][/quote]do you think the players we have or potential signings will worry much if we finish 7th 8th or 9th? because I think that's all we could have achieved this season, I any of those would be great. I know we had a great start to the season and we had a lot of momentum and confidence. that went out of the window when we got all those injuries. I know the media put it down to a drop in form but hoof had less injuries than us and the media made it an excuse for their form. any club hit with the injuries we had would suffer. we simply don't have the squad to cope, but it is only our second season in the prem and we still have a lot of players from L1 on the books, we will get a better squad but it cant be done overnight. we can all speculate on whether KL wants to sell or not and about which players might come and go and even if MP will leave, but we just don't know what is going to happen. I haven't seen a single shred of evidence that would suggest that KL wants to sell, doesn`t mean she wont though, in fact everything shes done suggests she might stay. the media delighted in telling us she was going to sell straight away, she hasn't. we were also informed by the media and many jealous fish that she had no interest in football - shes been to most games. she has installed a full board, not something you would do if you were going to sell the club and sack them just a couple of months later. as I say I might be completely wrong, it wouldn't be the first time![/p][/quote]Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzz[/p][/quote]Good analysis, shame about the response! peregrine73
  • Score: 3

7:10pm Sun 2 Mar 14

in search of the truth says...

The oracle has spoken !!!!!!


Southampton will be in 12th position at the end of the season.
The oracle has spoken !!!!!! Southampton will be in 12th position at the end of the season. in search of the truth
  • Score: -4

7:14pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Positively4thStreet says...

peregrine73 wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
Velleity wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs.

In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.
Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble.

Just so you know. It isn't and we did.

Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you.

How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?
The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature
Mr Italy I`m not having a go at you here because you often make good points, however your last sentence could be interpreted as coming from a fan who only sees the negative side of things, I know that's not true though. as I said yesterday when you said the same thing, a poor end to the season could be what MP needs to show KL that money needs to be spent on the squad, money being spent then shows the squad that the club are serious about their ambitions.

I think velleity was just making the point that stats can be used to prove anything you like. for example if you only count games in which Big Vic started for us we would be a lot further up the league. the only stat that really matters is the league table and being 9th is not a bad stat considering everything that has gone on this season.
I'm perfectly happy to accept that stats can often be presented in such a fashion to prove that black is actually white but one has to accept there are stats that are undeniable and do reflect the situation as it is. 17 points from 17 games is one such statistic. Couple this with possession and shot stats from numerous games this season that show Saints have dominated opponents but come away with one point at best and often with nothing to show for the team's efforts. They shows changes have to be made to improve this situation. I believe MoPo is good for the Club and if he has ambitions to stay with the Saints and move us to the next level, i.e. top six, then I consider a good end of season will strength his case to persuade KL to invest further in the Club. Further to this if KL wishes to sell the Club then again a good finish will attract more potential buyers. In addition a positive run in may well encourage players like Shaw / Lallana to stay as well as putting Saints in a stronger position to attract the better players which we will surely need to progress.
do you think the players we have or potential signings will worry much if we finish 7th 8th or 9th? because I think that's all we could have achieved this season, I any of those would be great. I know we had a great start to the season and we had a lot of momentum and confidence. that went out of the window when we got all those injuries. I know the media put it down to a drop in form but hoof had less injuries than us and the media made it an excuse for their form. any club hit with the injuries we had would suffer. we simply don't have the squad to cope, but it is only our second season in the prem and we still have a lot of players from L1 on the books, we will get a better squad but it cant be done overnight.
we can all speculate on whether KL wants to sell or not and about which players might come and go and even if MP will leave, but we just don't know what is going to happen.
I haven't seen a single shred of evidence that would suggest that KL wants to sell, doesn`t mean she wont though, in fact everything shes done suggests she might stay. the media delighted in telling us she was going to sell straight away, she hasn't. we were also informed by the media and many jealous fish that she had no interest in football - shes been to most games. she has installed a full board, not something you would do if you were going to sell the club and sack them just a couple of months later. as I say I might be completely wrong, it wouldn't be the first time!
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Good analysis, shame about the response!
Doesn't zzzzz only have three z's?
[quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs. In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.[/p][/quote]Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble. Just so you know. It isn't and we did. Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you. How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?[/p][/quote]The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature[/p][/quote]Mr Italy I`m not having a go at you here because you often make good points, however your last sentence could be interpreted as coming from a fan who only sees the negative side of things, I know that's not true though. as I said yesterday when you said the same thing, a poor end to the season could be what MP needs to show KL that money needs to be spent on the squad, money being spent then shows the squad that the club are serious about their ambitions. I think velleity was just making the point that stats can be used to prove anything you like. for example if you only count games in which Big Vic started for us we would be a lot further up the league. the only stat that really matters is the league table and being 9th is not a bad stat considering everything that has gone on this season.[/p][/quote]I'm perfectly happy to accept that stats can often be presented in such a fashion to prove that black is actually white but one has to accept there are stats that are undeniable and do reflect the situation as it is. 17 points from 17 games is one such statistic. Couple this with possession and shot stats from numerous games this season that show Saints have dominated opponents but come away with one point at best and often with nothing to show for the team's efforts. They shows changes have to be made to improve this situation. I believe MoPo is good for the Club and if he has ambitions to stay with the Saints and move us to the next level, i.e. top six, then I consider a good end of season will strength his case to persuade KL to invest further in the Club. Further to this if KL wishes to sell the Club then again a good finish will attract more potential buyers. In addition a positive run in may well encourage players like Shaw / Lallana to stay as well as putting Saints in a stronger position to attract the better players which we will surely need to progress.[/p][/quote]do you think the players we have or potential signings will worry much if we finish 7th 8th or 9th? because I think that's all we could have achieved this season, I any of those would be great. I know we had a great start to the season and we had a lot of momentum and confidence. that went out of the window when we got all those injuries. I know the media put it down to a drop in form but hoof had less injuries than us and the media made it an excuse for their form. any club hit with the injuries we had would suffer. we simply don't have the squad to cope, but it is only our second season in the prem and we still have a lot of players from L1 on the books, we will get a better squad but it cant be done overnight. we can all speculate on whether KL wants to sell or not and about which players might come and go and even if MP will leave, but we just don't know what is going to happen. I haven't seen a single shred of evidence that would suggest that KL wants to sell, doesn`t mean she wont though, in fact everything shes done suggests she might stay. the media delighted in telling us she was going to sell straight away, she hasn't. we were also informed by the media and many jealous fish that she had no interest in football - shes been to most games. she has installed a full board, not something you would do if you were going to sell the club and sack them just a couple of months later. as I say I might be completely wrong, it wouldn't be the first time![/p][/quote]Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzz[/p][/quote]Good analysis, shame about the response![/p][/quote]Doesn't zzzzz only have three z's? 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  • Score: 0

7:18pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Velleity says...

in search of the truth wrote:
The oracle has spoken !!!!!!


Southampton will be in 12th position at the end of the season.
If we end up 12th I'll walk the length of Shirley High Street stark b*ll*ck naked at 3pm the Saturday after the end of the season.
[quote][p][bold]in search of the truth[/bold] wrote: The oracle has spoken !!!!!! Southampton will be in 12th position at the end of the season.[/p][/quote]If we end up 12th I'll walk the length of Shirley High Street stark b*ll*ck naked at 3pm the Saturday after the end of the season. Velleity
  • Score: 1

7:37pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Baba Booey says...

mack chinnon wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
Velleity wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs.

In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.
Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble.

Just so you know. It isn't and we did.

Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you.

How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?
The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature
Mr Italy I`m not having a go at you here because you often make good points, however your last sentence could be interpreted as coming from a fan who only sees the negative side of things, I know that's not true though. as I said yesterday when you said the same thing, a poor end to the season could be what MP needs to show KL that money needs to be spent on the squad, money being spent then shows the squad that the club are serious about their ambitions.

I think velleity was just making the point that stats can be used to prove anything you like. for example if you only count games in which Big Vic started for us we would be a lot further up the league. the only stat that really matters is the league table and being 9th is not a bad stat considering everything that has gone on this season.
I'm perfectly happy to accept that stats can often be presented in such a fashion to prove that black is actually white but one has to accept there are stats that are undeniable and do reflect the situation as it is. 17 points from 17 games is one such statistic. Couple this with possession and shot stats from numerous games this season that show Saints have dominated opponents but come away with one point at best and often with nothing to show for the team's efforts. They shows changes have to be made to improve this situation. I believe MoPo is good for the Club and if he has ambitions to stay with the Saints and move us to the next level, i.e. top six, then I consider a good end of season will strength his case to persuade KL to invest further in the Club. Further to this if KL wishes to sell the Club then again a good finish will attract more potential buyers. In addition a positive run in may well encourage players like Shaw / Lallana to stay as well as putting Saints in a stronger position to attract the better players which we will surely need to progress.
do you think the players we have or potential signings will worry much if we finish 7th 8th or 9th? because I think that's all we could have achieved this season, I any of those would be great. I know we had a great start to the season and we had a lot of momentum and confidence. that went out of the window when we got all those injuries. I know the media put it down to a drop in form but hoof had less injuries than us and the media made it an excuse for their form. any club hit with the injuries we had would suffer. we simply don't have the squad to cope, but it is only our second season in the prem and we still have a lot of players from L1 on the books, we will get a better squad but it cant be done overnight.
we can all speculate on whether KL wants to sell or not and about which players might come and go and even if MP will leave, but we just don't know what is going to happen.
I haven't seen a single shred of evidence that would suggest that KL wants to sell, doesn`t mean she wont though, in fact everything shes done suggests she might stay. the media delighted in telling us she was going to sell straight away, she hasn't. we were also informed by the media and many jealous fish that she had no interest in football - shes been to most games. she has installed a full board, not something you would do if you were going to sell the club and sack them just a couple of months later. as I say I might be completely wrong, it wouldn't be the first time!
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[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: In the cold light of day and after yet another disappointing result it is time for a serious reality check. After our first 11 games we had reached the dizzy heights of 3rd in the table with all the pundits praising the team and the manner of our playing under MoPo. Unfortunately the next 17 games tells a different story. A league table based on the results of those 17 games would put us in 15th position below Swansea, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Norwich & Stoke and close to a relegation battle. An even more disturbing statistic is based on our results against those teams in the top half of the table. With just one win in 13 matches we would be 16th in a table based on those results. Below Hull, West Ham, Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Stoke & Sunderland (who would be 6th!). I have been a Saints' supporter since arriving in Southampton as a young lad way back in 1953. I have endured the bad times and thoroughly enjoyed the good times. I am now a little nervous the bubble is about to burst. It cannot be argued the infra-structure at St Marys is of the highest class with a youth development scheme the envy of the footballing world. However having enjoyed playing many sports I have always maintained the strength of any club is reflected in the strength of its 1st team. Should Saints fail to stem this fall then all we could be left with is wonderful stadium with KL losing interest, MoPo leaving and our young stars following Walcott, Bale & Ox to "bigger" clubs. In case anyone is wondering where the statistics are available they are to found at www.statto.com.[/p][/quote]Just to be straight, what you seem to be saying is that if the league were formulated in a different way where we just play the top half of the table we'd be doing badly. And if we hadn't won plenty of games at the start of the season we'd be in trouble. Just so you know. It isn't and we did. Which is why (in the real world) we're in ninth. Which I'd have accepted at the start of the season. As, I suspect, would you. How about some stats if the league were only made up of players over 25. We'd be rubbish in that. Similarly in a league where only goals scored between minutes 27 and 34 were counted. What about a league where you only count results against sides with an "R" in their name?[/p][/quote]The asinine comments you made in your final paragraph could only be interpreted as coming from a fan who sees everything at St Marys through rose tinted glasses and cannot accept any form of criticism . It cannot be denied that Saints are going through a difficult patch. Sure I would have happily accepted finishing 9th at the start of the season but after a superb start to the season it could be argued our present position is something of a disappointment and I am concerned the season could end with a whimper when I would prefer it ending with a bang. A poor end to the campaign could see wholesale changes being made in the summer not necessarily of a positive nature[/p][/quote]Mr Italy I`m not having a go at you here because you often make good points, however your last sentence could be interpreted as coming from a fan who only sees the negative side of things, I know that's not true though. as I said yesterday when you said the same thing, a poor end to the season could be what MP needs to show KL that money needs to be spent on the squad, money being spent then shows the squad that the club are serious about their ambitions. I think velleity was just making the point that stats can be used to prove anything you like. for example if you only count games in which Big Vic started for us we would be a lot further up the league. the only stat that really matters is the league table and being 9th is not a bad stat considering everything that has gone on this season.[/p][/quote]I'm perfectly happy to accept that stats can often be presented in such a fashion to prove that black is actually white but one has to accept there are stats that are undeniable and do reflect the situation as it is. 17 points from 17 games is one such statistic. Couple this with possession and shot stats from numerous games this season that show Saints have dominated opponents but come away with one point at best and often with nothing to show for the team's efforts. They shows changes have to be made to improve this situation. I believe MoPo is good for the Club and if he has ambitions to stay with the Saints and move us to the next level, i.e. top six, then I consider a good end of season will strength his case to persuade KL to invest further in the Club. Further to this if KL wishes to sell the Club then again a good finish will attract more potential buyers. In addition a positive run in may well encourage players like Shaw / Lallana to stay as well as putting Saints in a stronger position to attract the better players which we will surely need to progress.[/p][/quote]do you think the players we have or potential signings will worry much if we finish 7th 8th or 9th? because I think that's all we could have achieved this season, I any of those would be great. I know we had a great start to the season and we had a lot of momentum and confidence. that went out of the window when we got all those injuries. I know the media put it down to a drop in form but hoof had less injuries than us and the media made it an excuse for their form. any club hit with the injuries we had would suffer. we simply don't have the squad to cope, but it is only our second season in the prem and we still have a lot of players from L1 on the books, we will get a better squad but it cant be done overnight. we can all speculate on whether KL wants to sell or not and about which players might come and go and even if MP will leave, but we just don't know what is going to happen. I haven't seen a single shred of evidence that would suggest that KL wants to sell, doesn`t mean she wont though, in fact everything shes done suggests she might stay. the media delighted in telling us she was going to sell straight away, she hasn't. we were also informed by the media and many jealous fish that she had no interest in football - shes been to most games. she has installed a full board, not something you would do if you were going to sell the club and sack them just a couple of months later. as I say I might be completely wrong, it wouldn't be the first time![/p][/quote]Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzz[/p][/quote]Aren't you funny. 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7:55pm Sun 2 Mar 14

in search of the truth says...

Velleity wrote:
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The oracle has spoken !!!!!!


Southampton will be in 12th position at the end of the season.
If we end up 12th I'll walk the length of Shirley High Street stark b*ll*ck naked at 3pm the Saturday after the end of the season.
If your female and between the ages of 18 to 35 I'll be there at 3pm the Saturday after the end of the season.
If your male , I'll make other arrangements and go away on holiday.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]in search of the truth[/bold] wrote: The oracle has spoken !!!!!! Southampton will be in 12th position at the end of the season.[/p][/quote]If we end up 12th I'll walk the length of Shirley High Street stark b*ll*ck naked at 3pm the Saturday after the end of the season.[/p][/quote]If your female and between the ages of 18 to 35 I'll be there at 3pm the Saturday after the end of the season. If your male , I'll make other arrangements and go away on holiday. in search of the truth
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7:56pm Sun 2 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Does anyone know why Jason Puncheon wasn't in the Palace squad today, is it because of the FA charge against him? They drew 1 1 with Swansea with a Penalty by Murray after Chico Flores hacked him down and got sent off.
Does anyone know why Jason Puncheon wasn't in the Palace squad today, is it because of the FA charge against him? They drew 1 1 with Swansea with a Penalty by Murray after Chico Flores hacked him down and got sent off. OSPREYSAINT
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9:33pm Sun 2 Mar 14

loosehead says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
could these latest results be because MOPO is leaving in the summer?
All you fans have been saying about the defence & now we don't seem to have a striker worth talking about?
where did the money from Os go? sell Ramirez & use the money to buy?
Oh! it's to late we have to secure our place with what we've got .how many points away from the drop zone are we?
Just answer this why oh why didn't we buy in the transfer window?
It's okay saying we have the youngsters coming through but they're not ready as has been proven by our latest results
could the latest results be because we had injuries to major players who are now just coming back into the team? could they be because MP is staying and wants to see which of the `back up` players and `kids` will be good enough for next season? we haven't all been moaning about the defence but we know we need to either replace or bring in cover at CB. we do have strikers worth talking about, three attacking players in the latest England squad, but having lost a main striker through no fault of the clubs there is little competition and SRL looks tired and needs a rest.
what money from dani? we haven't sold him yet. we cant sell gaston at the moment, but why would we? no we cant buy anyone so we do have to go with what we`ve got, and the reason we didn't buy in the window is, NC left, dani kicked off and had to leave but that happened too late in the window to do much business ourselves, we also didn't want to panic buy someone who wasn't the right player, transfer fees are too expensive in jan and as we are already safe there is no need to spend over the top. we are 15 points from the `drop zone` and as we already have 39pts there is little chance, if any of getting drawn into the relegation dogfight. what youngsters aren't ready? the only new `youngster` who has been brought into the team is big sam the rest of the team have been regulars throughout the season. so I don't think you can blame the youth for our recent losses. anyway as we are safe, and we are, why shouldn't we play some of the younger players? if their not ready now it is the perfect opportunity to get them ready for next season when they might be call on.
2012/13 39pts stayed up
2011/12 37pts
2010/11 40pts
09/10 35pts
08/09 35pts
07/08 36pts
06/07 38pts
05/06 38pts
04/05 34pts
03/04 39pts
so over the last ten prem seasons the highest points total needed to stay up was 40 and 39 twice, so we are 1pt from the highest needed already and we have ten games to go, do you now really believe that we are in trouble? does anyone really think that we are unable to gain 1 more point from the ten games? and even if we lost everyone of the games the teams down the bottom would have to win five of their last ten to catch us they would then also have o have a goal difference change of 14 over us.
hope that helps.
who's all these injuries? Lovren is back so who else is injured ?
Lambert perhaps as he can't shoot straight has he injured his shooting foot?
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: could these latest results be because MOPO is leaving in the summer? All you fans have been saying about the defence & now we don't seem to have a striker worth talking about? where did the money from Os go? sell Ramirez & use the money to buy? Oh! it's to late we have to secure our place with what we've got .how many points away from the drop zone are we? Just answer this why oh why didn't we buy in the transfer window? It's okay saying we have the youngsters coming through but they're not ready as has been proven by our latest results[/p][/quote]could the latest results be because we had injuries to major players who are now just coming back into the team? could they be because MP is staying and wants to see which of the `back up` players and `kids` will be good enough for next season? we haven't all been moaning about the defence but we know we need to either replace or bring in cover at CB. we do have strikers worth talking about, three attacking players in the latest England squad, but having lost a main striker through no fault of the clubs there is little competition and SRL looks tired and needs a rest. what money from dani? we haven't sold him yet. we cant sell gaston at the moment, but why would we? no we cant buy anyone so we do have to go with what we`ve got, and the reason we didn't buy in the window is, NC left, dani kicked off and had to leave but that happened too late in the window to do much business ourselves, we also didn't want to panic buy someone who wasn't the right player, transfer fees are too expensive in jan and as we are already safe there is no need to spend over the top. we are 15 points from the `drop zone` and as we already have 39pts there is little chance, if any of getting drawn into the relegation dogfight. what youngsters aren't ready? the only new `youngster` who has been brought into the team is big sam the rest of the team have been regulars throughout the season. so I don't think you can blame the youth for our recent losses. anyway as we are safe, and we are, why shouldn't we play some of the younger players? if their not ready now it is the perfect opportunity to get them ready for next season when they might be call on. 2012/13 39pts stayed up 2011/12 37pts 2010/11 40pts 09/10 35pts 08/09 35pts 07/08 36pts 06/07 38pts 05/06 38pts 04/05 34pts 03/04 39pts so over the last ten prem seasons the highest points total needed to stay up was 40 and 39 twice, so we are 1pt from the highest needed already and we have ten games to go, do you now really believe that we are in trouble? does anyone really think that we are unable to gain 1 more point from the ten games? and even if we lost everyone of the games the teams down the bottom would have to win five of their last ten to catch us they would then also have o have a goal difference change of 14 over us. hope that helps.[/p][/quote]who's all these injuries? Lovren is back so who else is injured ? Lambert perhaps as he can't shoot straight has he injured his shooting foot? loosehead
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9:40pm Sun 2 Mar 14

loosehead says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
could these latest results be because MOPO is leaving in the summer?
All you fans have been saying about the defence & now we don't seem to have a striker worth talking about?
where did the money from Os go? sell Ramirez & use the money to buy?
Oh! it's to late we have to secure our place with what we've got .how many points away from the drop zone are we?
Just answer this why oh why didn't we buy in the transfer window?
It's okay saying we have the youngsters coming through but they're not ready as has been proven by our latest results
could the latest results be because we had injuries to major players who are now just coming back into the team? could they be because MP is staying and wants to see which of the `back up` players and `kids` will be good enough for next season? we haven't all been moaning about the defence but we know we need to either replace or bring in cover at CB. we do have strikers worth talking about, three attacking players in the latest England squad, but having lost a main striker through no fault of the clubs there is little competition and SRL looks tired and needs a rest.
what money from dani? we haven't sold him yet. we cant sell gaston at the moment, but why would we? no we cant buy anyone so we do have to go with what we`ve got, and the reason we didn't buy in the window is, NC left, dani kicked off and had to leave but that happened too late in the window to do much business ourselves, we also didn't want to panic buy someone who wasn't the right player, transfer fees are too expensive in jan and as we are already safe there is no need to spend over the top. we are 15 points from the `drop zone` and as we already have 39pts there is little chance, if any of getting drawn into the relegation dogfight. what youngsters aren't ready? the only new `youngster` who has been brought into the team is big sam the rest of the team have been regulars throughout the season. so I don't think you can blame the youth for our recent losses. anyway as we are safe, and we are, why shouldn't we play some of the younger players? if their not ready now it is the perfect opportunity to get them ready for next season when they might be call on.
2012/13 39pts stayed up
2011/12 37pts
2010/11 40pts
09/10 35pts
08/09 35pts
07/08 36pts
06/07 38pts
05/06 38pts
04/05 34pts
03/04 39pts
so over the last ten prem seasons the highest points total needed to stay up was 40 and 39 twice, so we are 1pt from the highest needed already and we have ten games to go, do you now really believe that we are in trouble? does anyone really think that we are unable to gain 1 more point from the ten games? and even if we lost everyone of the games the teams down the bottom would have to win five of their last ten to catch us they would then also have o have a goal difference change of 14 over us.
hope that helps.
I only follow by watching highlights or reading posts on here but there was a bad period when the first choice goalie was out so a back up or a goalie of equal ability would have been a good acquisition .
after watching a few games last season I said we needed to strengthen the defence well Lovren seems to have done it but exactly who's his cover? home goal Hoodveld?
now let's look at attack? we can be all over them but no one can score we have Guly Ramirez we had Osva & lambert but if Lovren,LLana or Rodrigues don't score can any of the others?
if as you say were safe we could have attracted some great players to shore up those areas but wasn't it MOPO who said we didn't need them we had our youth?
I'm only going by what football fans are saying on these sites so are they all wrong?
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: could these latest results be because MOPO is leaving in the summer? All you fans have been saying about the defence & now we don't seem to have a striker worth talking about? where did the money from Os go? sell Ramirez & use the money to buy? Oh! it's to late we have to secure our place with what we've got .how many points away from the drop zone are we? Just answer this why oh why didn't we buy in the transfer window? It's okay saying we have the youngsters coming through but they're not ready as has been proven by our latest results[/p][/quote]could the latest results be because we had injuries to major players who are now just coming back into the team? could they be because MP is staying and wants to see which of the `back up` players and `kids` will be good enough for next season? we haven't all been moaning about the defence but we know we need to either replace or bring in cover at CB. we do have strikers worth talking about, three attacking players in the latest England squad, but having lost a main striker through no fault of the clubs there is little competition and SRL looks tired and needs a rest. what money from dani? we haven't sold him yet. we cant sell gaston at the moment, but why would we? no we cant buy anyone so we do have to go with what we`ve got, and the reason we didn't buy in the window is, NC left, dani kicked off and had to leave but that happened too late in the window to do much business ourselves, we also didn't want to panic buy someone who wasn't the right player, transfer fees are too expensive in jan and as we are already safe there is no need to spend over the top. we are 15 points from the `drop zone` and as we already have 39pts there is little chance, if any of getting drawn into the relegation dogfight. what youngsters aren't ready? the only new `youngster` who has been brought into the team is big sam the rest of the team have been regulars throughout the season. so I don't think you can blame the youth for our recent losses. anyway as we are safe, and we are, why shouldn't we play some of the younger players? if their not ready now it is the perfect opportunity to get them ready for next season when they might be call on. 2012/13 39pts stayed up 2011/12 37pts 2010/11 40pts 09/10 35pts 08/09 35pts 07/08 36pts 06/07 38pts 05/06 38pts 04/05 34pts 03/04 39pts so over the last ten prem seasons the highest points total needed to stay up was 40 and 39 twice, so we are 1pt from the highest needed already and we have ten games to go, do you now really believe that we are in trouble? does anyone really think that we are unable to gain 1 more point from the ten games? and even if we lost everyone of the games the teams down the bottom would have to win five of their last ten to catch us they would then also have o have a goal difference change of 14 over us. hope that helps.[/p][/quote]I only follow by watching highlights or reading posts on here but there was a bad period when the first choice goalie was out so a back up or a goalie of equal ability would have been a good acquisition . after watching a few games last season I said we needed to strengthen the defence well Lovren seems to have done it but exactly who's his cover? home goal Hoodveld? now let's look at attack? we can be all over them but no one can score we have Guly Ramirez we had Osva & lambert but if Lovren,LLana or Rodrigues don't score can any of the others? if as you say were safe we could have attracted some great players to shore up those areas but wasn't it MOPO who said we didn't need them we had our youth? I'm only going by what football fans are saying on these sites so are they all wrong? loosehead
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9:46pm Sun 2 Mar 14

north wales saint 2 says...

To me Mo Po looked like he wasn,t that bothered.Think he might move on in the summer.A Pardew response although wrong at least showed some passion.Where have we gone wrong,last season we scored goals for fun but could not defend.Now we only seem to know how to find the upright and of late still can,t defend.Palace away next week,would like to see three points but on present form won,t bank on it.
To me Mo Po looked like he wasn,t that bothered.Think he might move on in the summer.A Pardew response although wrong at least showed some passion.Where have we gone wrong,last season we scored goals for fun but could not defend.Now we only seem to know how to find the upright and of late still can,t defend.Palace away next week,would like to see three points but on present form won,t bank on it. north wales saint 2
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10:36pm Sun 2 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

loosehead wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
could these latest results be because MOPO is leaving in the summer?
All you fans have been saying about the defence & now we don't seem to have a striker worth talking about?
where did the money from Os go? sell Ramirez & use the money to buy?
Oh! it's to late we have to secure our place with what we've got .how many points away from the drop zone are we?
Just answer this why oh why didn't we buy in the transfer window?
It's okay saying we have the youngsters coming through but they're not ready as has been proven by our latest results
could the latest results be because we had injuries to major players who are now just coming back into the team? could they be because MP is staying and wants to see which of the `back up` players and `kids` will be good enough for next season? we haven't all been moaning about the defence but we know we need to either replace or bring in cover at CB. we do have strikers worth talking about, three attacking players in the latest England squad, but having lost a main striker through no fault of the clubs there is little competition and SRL looks tired and needs a rest.
what money from dani? we haven't sold him yet. we cant sell gaston at the moment, but why would we? no we cant buy anyone so we do have to go with what we`ve got, and the reason we didn't buy in the window is, NC left, dani kicked off and had to leave but that happened too late in the window to do much business ourselves, we also didn't want to panic buy someone who wasn't the right player, transfer fees are too expensive in jan and as we are already safe there is no need to spend over the top. we are 15 points from the `drop zone` and as we already have 39pts there is little chance, if any of getting drawn into the relegation dogfight. what youngsters aren't ready? the only new `youngster` who has been brought into the team is big sam the rest of the team have been regulars throughout the season. so I don't think you can blame the youth for our recent losses. anyway as we are safe, and we are, why shouldn't we play some of the younger players? if their not ready now it is the perfect opportunity to get them ready for next season when they might be call on.
2012/13 39pts stayed up
2011/12 37pts
2010/11 40pts
09/10 35pts
08/09 35pts
07/08 36pts
06/07 38pts
05/06 38pts
04/05 34pts
03/04 39pts
so over the last ten prem seasons the highest points total needed to stay up was 40 and 39 twice, so we are 1pt from the highest needed already and we have ten games to go, do you now really believe that we are in trouble? does anyone really think that we are unable to gain 1 more point from the ten games? and even if we lost everyone of the games the teams down the bottom would have to win five of their last ten to catch us they would then also have o have a goal difference change of 14 over us.
hope that helps.
I only follow by watching highlights or reading posts on here but there was a bad period when the first choice goalie was out so a back up or a goalie of equal ability would have been a good acquisition .
after watching a few games last season I said we needed to strengthen the defence well Lovren seems to have done it but exactly who's his cover? home goal Hoodveld?
now let's look at attack? we can be all over them but no one can score we have Guly Ramirez we had Osva & lambert but if Lovren,LLana or Rodrigues don't score can any of the others?
if as you say were safe we could have attracted some great players to shore up those areas but wasn't it MOPO who said we didn't need them we had our youth?
I'm only going by what football fans are saying on these sites so are they all wrong?
boruc, the first choice keeper was injured (broken hand) at the same time the second choice keeper Davis was also injured so we were left fielding our third choice keeper for several games. we also lost wanyama and spider both the first choice central midfielders, then gaston and dejan both went out in the same game with ankle ligament injuries. clyne the right back was also out and we lost our other first choice CB, fonte for a game or 2. most of these injuries have overlapped at some point so for a few games we lost the centre midfielders the centre backs and both first and second choice keepers which ripped the heart out f the team, we have lost other cover players for some games as well.
cover at CB is Yoshi first then hoover.
gastons been out so he has been unable to score, Osvaldo was injured then banned then headbutted his own team mate and so had to be shipped out. lambert is looking tired, probably because he has had a few niggling injuries and apart from an 18yr old who has just made the step up we have no cover because of what Osvaldo did. lalla and j-rod have missed some chance but they have had those chances to miss and I would rather miss a chance than not have any to miss. we are safe don't worry about that. we could have don some business in January but transfer fees are greatly increased in that window and most of the transfers are done by teams panicking because they might not qualify for Europe or they might be relegated. as we are safe its a wise move to `blood` the youth and give them some game time, its better to give them experience when there is nothing to worry about than to force them in under pressure. no not all the fans are wrong but as in any sport we all have different opinions.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: could these latest results be because MOPO is leaving in the summer? All you fans have been saying about the defence & now we don't seem to have a striker worth talking about? where did the money from Os go? sell Ramirez & use the money to buy? Oh! it's to late we have to secure our place with what we've got .how many points away from the drop zone are we? Just answer this why oh why didn't we buy in the transfer window? It's okay saying we have the youngsters coming through but they're not ready as has been proven by our latest results[/p][/quote]could the latest results be because we had injuries to major players who are now just coming back into the team? could they be because MP is staying and wants to see which of the `back up` players and `kids` will be good enough for next season? we haven't all been moaning about the defence but we know we need to either replace or bring in cover at CB. we do have strikers worth talking about, three attacking players in the latest England squad, but having lost a main striker through no fault of the clubs there is little competition and SRL looks tired and needs a rest. what money from dani? we haven't sold him yet. we cant sell gaston at the moment, but why would we? no we cant buy anyone so we do have to go with what we`ve got, and the reason we didn't buy in the window is, NC left, dani kicked off and had to leave but that happened too late in the window to do much business ourselves, we also didn't want to panic buy someone who wasn't the right player, transfer fees are too expensive in jan and as we are already safe there is no need to spend over the top. we are 15 points from the `drop zone` and as we already have 39pts there is little chance, if any of getting drawn into the relegation dogfight. what youngsters aren't ready? the only new `youngster` who has been brought into the team is big sam the rest of the team have been regulars throughout the season. so I don't think you can blame the youth for our recent losses. anyway as we are safe, and we are, why shouldn't we play some of the younger players? if their not ready now it is the perfect opportunity to get them ready for next season when they might be call on. 2012/13 39pts stayed up 2011/12 37pts 2010/11 40pts 09/10 35pts 08/09 35pts 07/08 36pts 06/07 38pts 05/06 38pts 04/05 34pts 03/04 39pts so over the last ten prem seasons the highest points total needed to stay up was 40 and 39 twice, so we are 1pt from the highest needed already and we have ten games to go, do you now really believe that we are in trouble? does anyone really think that we are unable to gain 1 more point from the ten games? and even if we lost everyone of the games the teams down the bottom would have to win five of their last ten to catch us they would then also have o have a goal difference change of 14 over us. hope that helps.[/p][/quote]I only follow by watching highlights or reading posts on here but there was a bad period when the first choice goalie was out so a back up or a goalie of equal ability would have been a good acquisition . after watching a few games last season I said we needed to strengthen the defence well Lovren seems to have done it but exactly who's his cover? home goal Hoodveld? now let's look at attack? we can be all over them but no one can score we have Guly Ramirez we had Osva & lambert but if Lovren,LLana or Rodrigues don't score can any of the others? if as you say were safe we could have attracted some great players to shore up those areas but wasn't it MOPO who said we didn't need them we had our youth? I'm only going by what football fans are saying on these sites so are they all wrong?[/p][/quote]boruc, the first choice keeper was injured (broken hand) at the same time the second choice keeper Davis was also injured so we were left fielding our third choice keeper for several games. we also lost wanyama and spider both the first choice central midfielders, then gaston and dejan both went out in the same game with ankle ligament injuries. clyne the right back was also out and we lost our other first choice CB, fonte for a game or 2. most of these injuries have overlapped at some point so for a few games we lost the centre midfielders the centre backs and both first and second choice keepers which ripped the heart out f the team, we have lost other cover players for some games as well. cover at CB is Yoshi first then hoover. gastons been out so he has been unable to score, Osvaldo was injured then banned then headbutted his own team mate and so had to be shipped out. lambert is looking tired, probably because he has had a few niggling injuries and apart from an 18yr old who has just made the step up we have no cover because of what Osvaldo did. lalla and j-rod have missed some chance but they have had those chances to miss and I would rather miss a chance than not have any to miss. we are safe don't worry about that. we could have don some business in January but transfer fees are greatly increased in that window and most of the transfers are done by teams panicking because they might not qualify for Europe or they might be relegated. as we are safe its a wise move to `blood` the youth and give them some game time, its better to give them experience when there is nothing to worry about than to force them in under pressure. no not all the fans are wrong but as in any sport we all have different opinions. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 1

6:19am Mon 3 Mar 14

loosehead says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
could these latest results be because MOPO is leaving in the summer?
All you fans have been saying about the defence & now we don't seem to have a striker worth talking about?
where did the money from Os go? sell Ramirez & use the money to buy?
Oh! it's to late we have to secure our place with what we've got .how many points away from the drop zone are we?
Just answer this why oh why didn't we buy in the transfer window?
It's okay saying we have the youngsters coming through but they're not ready as has been proven by our latest results
could the latest results be because we had injuries to major players who are now just coming back into the team? could they be because MP is staying and wants to see which of the `back up` players and `kids` will be good enough for next season? we haven't all been moaning about the defence but we know we need to either replace or bring in cover at CB. we do have strikers worth talking about, three attacking players in the latest England squad, but having lost a main striker through no fault of the clubs there is little competition and SRL looks tired and needs a rest.
what money from dani? we haven't sold him yet. we cant sell gaston at the moment, but why would we? no we cant buy anyone so we do have to go with what we`ve got, and the reason we didn't buy in the window is, NC left, dani kicked off and had to leave but that happened too late in the window to do much business ourselves, we also didn't want to panic buy someone who wasn't the right player, transfer fees are too expensive in jan and as we are already safe there is no need to spend over the top. we are 15 points from the `drop zone` and as we already have 39pts there is little chance, if any of getting drawn into the relegation dogfight. what youngsters aren't ready? the only new `youngster` who has been brought into the team is big sam the rest of the team have been regulars throughout the season. so I don't think you can blame the youth for our recent losses. anyway as we are safe, and we are, why shouldn't we play some of the younger players? if their not ready now it is the perfect opportunity to get them ready for next season when they might be call on.
2012/13 39pts stayed up
2011/12 37pts
2010/11 40pts
09/10 35pts
08/09 35pts
07/08 36pts
06/07 38pts
05/06 38pts
04/05 34pts
03/04 39pts
so over the last ten prem seasons the highest points total needed to stay up was 40 and 39 twice, so we are 1pt from the highest needed already and we have ten games to go, do you now really believe that we are in trouble? does anyone really think that we are unable to gain 1 more point from the ten games? and even if we lost everyone of the games the teams down the bottom would have to win five of their last ten to catch us they would then also have o have a goal difference change of 14 over us.
hope that helps.
I only follow by watching highlights or reading posts on here but there was a bad period when the first choice goalie was out so a back up or a goalie of equal ability would have been a good acquisition .
after watching a few games last season I said we needed to strengthen the defence well Lovren seems to have done it but exactly who's his cover? home goal Hoodveld?
now let's look at attack? we can be all over them but no one can score we have Guly Ramirez we had Osva & lambert but if Lovren,LLana or Rodrigues don't score can any of the others?
if as you say were safe we could have attracted some great players to shore up those areas but wasn't it MOPO who said we didn't need them we had our youth?
I'm only going by what football fans are saying on these sites so are they all wrong?
boruc, the first choice keeper was injured (broken hand) at the same time the second choice keeper Davis was also injured so we were left fielding our third choice keeper for several games. we also lost wanyama and spider both the first choice central midfielders, then gaston and dejan both went out in the same game with ankle ligament injuries. clyne the right back was also out and we lost our other first choice CB, fonte for a game or 2. most of these injuries have overlapped at some point so for a few games we lost the centre midfielders the centre backs and both first and second choice keepers which ripped the heart out f the team, we have lost other cover players for some games as well.
cover at CB is Yoshi first then hoover.
gastons been out so he has been unable to score, Osvaldo was injured then banned then headbutted his own team mate and so had to be shipped out. lambert is looking tired, probably because he has had a few niggling injuries and apart from an 18yr old who has just made the step up we have no cover because of what Osvaldo did. lalla and j-rod have missed some chance but they have had those chances to miss and I would rather miss a chance than not have any to miss. we are safe don't worry about that. we could have don some business in January but transfer fees are greatly increased in that window and most of the transfers are done by teams panicking because they might not qualify for Europe or they might be relegated. as we are safe its a wise move to `blood` the youth and give them some game time, its better to give them experience when there is nothing to worry about than to force them in under pressure. no not all the fans are wrong but as in any sport we all have different opinions.
being a rugby fan & seeing how England are blooding youth this year ready for the World Cup next year I agree with blooding the youth but what age & are they ready has to be answered first.
I hope it works out for you footie fans but the face of your manager looked like someone who couldn't wait to get away I hope I'm wrong!
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: could these latest results be because MOPO is leaving in the summer? All you fans have been saying about the defence & now we don't seem to have a striker worth talking about? where did the money from Os go? sell Ramirez & use the money to buy? Oh! it's to late we have to secure our place with what we've got .how many points away from the drop zone are we? Just answer this why oh why didn't we buy in the transfer window? It's okay saying we have the youngsters coming through but they're not ready as has been proven by our latest results[/p][/quote]could the latest results be because we had injuries to major players who are now just coming back into the team? could they be because MP is staying and wants to see which of the `back up` players and `kids` will be good enough for next season? we haven't all been moaning about the defence but we know we need to either replace or bring in cover at CB. we do have strikers worth talking about, three attacking players in the latest England squad, but having lost a main striker through no fault of the clubs there is little competition and SRL looks tired and needs a rest. what money from dani? we haven't sold him yet. we cant sell gaston at the moment, but why would we? no we cant buy anyone so we do have to go with what we`ve got, and the reason we didn't buy in the window is, NC left, dani kicked off and had to leave but that happened too late in the window to do much business ourselves, we also didn't want to panic buy someone who wasn't the right player, transfer fees are too expensive in jan and as we are already safe there is no need to spend over the top. we are 15 points from the `drop zone` and as we already have 39pts there is little chance, if any of getting drawn into the relegation dogfight. what youngsters aren't ready? the only new `youngster` who has been brought into the team is big sam the rest of the team have been regulars throughout the season. so I don't think you can blame the youth for our recent losses. anyway as we are safe, and we are, why shouldn't we play some of the younger players? if their not ready now it is the perfect opportunity to get them ready for next season when they might be call on. 2012/13 39pts stayed up 2011/12 37pts 2010/11 40pts 09/10 35pts 08/09 35pts 07/08 36pts 06/07 38pts 05/06 38pts 04/05 34pts 03/04 39pts so over the last ten prem seasons the highest points total needed to stay up was 40 and 39 twice, so we are 1pt from the highest needed already and we have ten games to go, do you now really believe that we are in trouble? does anyone really think that we are unable to gain 1 more point from the ten games? and even if we lost everyone of the games the teams down the bottom would have to win five of their last ten to catch us they would then also have o have a goal difference change of 14 over us. hope that helps.[/p][/quote]I only follow by watching highlights or reading posts on here but there was a bad period when the first choice goalie was out so a back up or a goalie of equal ability would have been a good acquisition . after watching a few games last season I said we needed to strengthen the defence well Lovren seems to have done it but exactly who's his cover? home goal Hoodveld? now let's look at attack? we can be all over them but no one can score we have Guly Ramirez we had Osva & lambert but if Lovren,LLana or Rodrigues don't score can any of the others? if as you say were safe we could have attracted some great players to shore up those areas but wasn't it MOPO who said we didn't need them we had our youth? I'm only going by what football fans are saying on these sites so are they all wrong?[/p][/quote]boruc, the first choice keeper was injured (broken hand) at the same time the second choice keeper Davis was also injured so we were left fielding our third choice keeper for several games. we also lost wanyama and spider both the first choice central midfielders, then gaston and dejan both went out in the same game with ankle ligament injuries. clyne the right back was also out and we lost our other first choice CB, fonte for a game or 2. most of these injuries have overlapped at some point so for a few games we lost the centre midfielders the centre backs and both first and second choice keepers which ripped the heart out f the team, we have lost other cover players for some games as well. cover at CB is Yoshi first then hoover. gastons been out so he has been unable to score, Osvaldo was injured then banned then headbutted his own team mate and so had to be shipped out. lambert is looking tired, probably because he has had a few niggling injuries and apart from an 18yr old who has just made the step up we have no cover because of what Osvaldo did. lalla and j-rod have missed some chance but they have had those chances to miss and I would rather miss a chance than not have any to miss. we are safe don't worry about that. we could have don some business in January but transfer fees are greatly increased in that window and most of the transfers are done by teams panicking because they might not qualify for Europe or they might be relegated. as we are safe its a wise move to `blood` the youth and give them some game time, its better to give them experience when there is nothing to worry about than to force them in under pressure. no not all the fans are wrong but as in any sport we all have different opinions.[/p][/quote]being a rugby fan & seeing how England are blooding youth this year ready for the World Cup next year I agree with blooding the youth but what age & are they ready has to be answered first. I hope it works out for you footie fans but the face of your manager looked like someone who couldn't wait to get away I hope I'm wrong! loosehead
  • Score: 0

2:54pm Mon 3 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Does anyone know why Jason Puncheon wasn't in the Palace squad today, is it because of the FA charge against him? They drew 1 1 with Swansea with a Penalty by Murray after Chico Flores hacked him down and got sent off.
Why the thumbs down for a perfectly reasonable question?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know why Jason Puncheon wasn't in the Palace squad today, is it because of the FA charge against him? They drew 1 1 with Swansea with a Penalty by Murray after Chico Flores hacked him down and got sent off.[/p][/quote]Why the thumbs down for a perfectly reasonable question? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

1:32pm Tue 4 Mar 14

kiddynamite says...

I watched this game. Liverpool were always going to win.
Poch is just a sore loser!!!
I watched this game. Liverpool were always going to win. Poch is just a sore loser!!! kiddynamite
  • Score: 1

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