Krueger adopts fresh new approach to communication in post-Cortese era

Daily Echo: FRESH NEW ERA: From left, Hans Hofstetter, Gareth Rogers, Katherina Liebherr, and Ralph Krueger at St Mary’s. FRESH NEW ERA: From left, Hans Hofstetter, Gareth Rogers, Katherina Liebherr, and Ralph Krueger at St Mary’s.

Communication from the top has not exactly been Saints’ strong point during the last five years.

If Ralph Krueger is true to his word, then that is all about to change.

The club’s new chairman began his first official day in post by inviting members of the media in to meet and quiz him.

After Nicola Cortese’s rather reclusive reign, this was a refreshing change.

It is the sort of open dialogue that Krueger plans more of, and not just with the media.

“The single most important thing we have is the style of communication that is going to happen,” he said.

“To engage with the fans and interconnect with the fans and communicate with them openly.

“It doesn’t always have to be friendly. Let’s always do it if we have a losing streak going. It is not about just going out when the sun is shining.”

Krueger spoke impressively yesterday, which was no surprise given his background.

Renowned motivational and leadership speakers who are also active members of the World Economic Forum tend to have a way with words.

Engaging He chose the Markus Liebherr Lounge as the venue for the gathering, both as a nod to the club’s late owner and also its current custodian, Katharina Liebherr, who Krueger enjoys an incredibly strong bond with.

He was engaging, entertaining, and answered questions at length, while being sure not to divulge too much information on subjects he did not want to.

The fact he was willing to field the questions said a lot, though.

While the extended period of success overseen by Cortese resulted in him earning a strong share of support among the fan base, a sense of frustration always seemed to linger in the background that he was not more communicative – particularly when it came to explaining decisions that did not meet with supporters’ approval.

Other than the very occasional selective interview, little was ever heard from him.

Krueger is intent on taking a different approach.

That is not to say there are not some similarities between him and his predecessor.

Krueger clearly seeks excellence from those around him and possesses a great attention to detail.

One of the first things he did on arriving at the club was to get the human resources department to compile a profile of each of the 200-plus members of staff for him to see.

‘Ruthless empathy’ “We are asking ourselves who is walking in here in the morning trying to make the Saints better,” he said, adding how pleased he is with the talent in place at the club.

He is not afraid of being the bad guy either, talking about having a “ruthless empathy”.

“I am not here to be popular,” he said. “If, when my time ends, people respect what happened here, then I have done my job.

“If popularity is a by-product, nice, but if not, that’s not important.”

Krueger, though, comes across as a completely different character to Cortese.

He does not plan to rule with an iron fist, and is not a micro-manager.

“I don’t believe in hierarchical leadership,” he said.

“My leadership style is about finding the best possible people we can afford at every single position and letting them work.”

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8:21am Thu 13 Mar 14

chapelsaint says...

Sounds positive!
Sounds positive! chapelsaint
  • Score: 12

8:22am Thu 13 Mar 14

Chipmonk1 says...

Nice to see that the daily echo has finally looked in to Ralph's CV instead of joining the lazy journalist story (previously printed btw) that he is an ice hokey coach and drawing parallels with the clive Woodward appointment. This guy is seriously credentialed and Saints are all the better for having him on board. Also to the doom and gloom merchants. I highly doubt that if MP is still manager that AL will want away or Shaw for that matter. I choose to believe that Ralph's comments regarding living beyond one's means was more to do with transfer payments rather than wages. Also loved the fact that he acknowledged those fans that can't get to St Mary's as being important as well.
Nice to see that the daily echo has finally looked in to Ralph's CV instead of joining the lazy journalist story (previously printed btw) that he is an ice hokey coach and drawing parallels with the clive Woodward appointment. This guy is seriously credentialed and Saints are all the better for having him on board. Also to the doom and gloom merchants. I highly doubt that if MP is still manager that AL will want away or Shaw for that matter. I choose to believe that Ralph's comments regarding living beyond one's means was more to do with transfer payments rather than wages. Also loved the fact that he acknowledged those fans that can't get to St Mary's as being important as well. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 47

8:43am Thu 13 Mar 14

Positively4thStreet says...

When NC left,there was a bit of concern,given the success he had unarguably masterminded,that we might not be able to replace him.Maybe those fears were unfounded..let's hope so!
When NC left,there was a bit of concern,given the success he had unarguably masterminded,that we might not be able to replace him.Maybe those fears were unfounded..let's hope so! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 20

9:00am Thu 13 Mar 14

Saintsayer II says...

I certainly get the impression that the whole board want to be honest and open in their dealings I am now a lot happier about the direction we are going in than I have been since NC left
I certainly get the impression that the whole board want to be honest and open in their dealings I am now a lot happier about the direction we are going in than I have been since NC left Saintsayer II
  • Score: 26

9:24am Thu 13 Mar 14

Malcombe says...

Ralph Krueger could be the breath of fresh air to add to Southampton FC for the ambitious future that was set out 5 years ago, also it seems he's approachable and wants to let the Supporters know everything that's in the interest of everyone who loves and works at the Club.

It's certainly a chalk and cheese difference to Nicola Cortese who I never saw or heard in any interview and wouldn't have a clue what he talks like does anyone else? that's not to undermined the wonderful work he did for the Club with the backing of Marcus but the Club and Nicola move on.

Their's never been a shred of gossip as to whether Katharina didn't like Cortese but it hasn't gone unnoticed that she's on the scene (and why shouldn't she as the Owner) more than she was when Cortese was the top man, it could of been a clash of personalities and you can't like all of the people all of the time only some of the people some of the time.

Krueger appears to have started on the right foot, he's knows that the Football side is Mauricio Potchettino's business and doesn't intend to meddle just how it use to be when Ted and Laurie were Managers and so it should, if the Manager doesn't get any interference his Staff and the Players will be happy and so will all those who pay there wages the Supporters. Having a Team of Directors and Advisor means a collective united group can make positive decision rather than allowing one person to dictate everything that can often get peoples backs up so it's good luck to the new board and Southampton FC we all love you
Ralph Krueger could be the breath of fresh air to add to Southampton FC for the ambitious future that was set out 5 years ago, also it seems he's approachable and wants to let the Supporters know everything that's in the interest of everyone who loves and works at the Club. It's certainly a chalk and cheese difference to Nicola Cortese who I never saw or heard in any interview and wouldn't have a clue what he talks like does anyone else? that's not to undermined the wonderful work he did for the Club with the backing of Marcus but the Club and Nicola move on. Their's never been a shred of gossip as to whether Katharina didn't like Cortese but it hasn't gone unnoticed that she's on the scene (and why shouldn't she as the Owner) more than she was when Cortese was the top man, it could of been a clash of personalities and you can't like all of the people all of the time only some of the people some of the time. Krueger appears to have started on the right foot, he's knows that the Football side is Mauricio Potchettino's business and doesn't intend to meddle just how it use to be when Ted and Laurie were Managers and so it should, if the Manager doesn't get any interference his Staff and the Players will be happy and so will all those who pay there wages the Supporters. Having a Team of Directors and Advisor means a collective united group can make positive decision rather than allowing one person to dictate everything that can often get peoples backs up so it's good luck to the new board and Southampton FC we all love you Malcombe
  • Score: 30

9:28am Thu 13 Mar 14

saintbobby says...

Reading this is like getting your most wanted birthday present.

Must now ensure that overtures to MP are concluded soon and that none of our stars will want to leave. Hopefully, will prove really exciting.
Reading this is like getting your most wanted birthday present. Must now ensure that overtures to MP are concluded soon and that none of our stars will want to leave. Hopefully, will prove really exciting. saintbobby
  • Score: 21

10:08am Thu 13 Mar 14

SFCOLDBOY says...

Impressive start.
As always, situations will happen, judge him on his and his boards actions.
There has been a serious gap of communication between the club,the fans and media, during and before Mr Cortese.
That said, Mr Cortese and Mr Liebhere, I must thank, for saving our club from the jaws of oblivion.
We, and (I say WE) the supporters are part of this and always have been.
(We bleed red and white)
As he has been quoted----- "WE GET IT" ---
We the supporters have always GOT it.
Without supporters and fans there would never have been a Southampton FC.
We understand it's a business, we understand reluctantly that our favorites may leave cos of economics or ambition.
The importance of the statements Ralph has made on behalf of the Owner and board gives the supporters like myself confidence that our great football team is still rising onwards and upwards.
COYS.
Impressive start. As always, situations will happen, judge him on his and his boards actions. There has been a serious gap of communication between the club,the fans and media, during and before Mr Cortese. That said, Mr Cortese and Mr Liebhere, I must thank, for saving our club from the jaws of oblivion. We, and (I say WE) the supporters are part of this and always have been. (We bleed red and white) As he has been quoted----- "WE GET IT" --- We the supporters have always GOT it. Without supporters and fans there would never have been a Southampton FC. We understand it's a business, we understand reluctantly that our favorites may leave cos of economics or ambition. The importance of the statements Ralph has made on behalf of the Owner and board gives the supporters like myself confidence that our great football team is still rising onwards and upwards. COYS. SFCOLDBOY
  • Score: 14

10:09am Thu 13 Mar 14

JohnItaly says...

There certainly appears to be a breath of fresh positive air blowing through St Marys which can only be good news for all us fans. Looking to the future it is worth remembering that clubs have in the past dominated the English football scene but as time moves on so other clubs rise to the surface. Manchester United are going through a transitional period so their position is there for the taking. Why not the Saints?
There certainly appears to be a breath of fresh positive air blowing through St Marys which can only be good news for all us fans. Looking to the future it is worth remembering that clubs have in the past dominated the English football scene but as time moves on so other clubs rise to the surface. Manchester United are going through a transitional period so their position is there for the taking. Why not the Saints? JohnItaly
  • Score: 10

10:09am Thu 13 Mar 14

Clever Dick says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
Nice to see that the daily echo has finally looked in to Ralph's CV instead of joining the lazy journalist story (previously printed btw) that he is an ice hokey coach and drawing parallels with the clive Woodward appointment. This guy is seriously credentialed and Saints are all the better for having him on board. Also to the doom and gloom merchants. I highly doubt that if MP is still manager that AL will want away or Shaw for that matter. I choose to believe that Ralph's comments regarding living beyond one's means was more to do with transfer payments rather than wages. Also loved the fact that he acknowledged those fans that can't get to St Mary's as being important as well.
There is clearly no comparison between Woodward and this guy. Woodward's appointment was a joke and an embarrassment from day one. I think at one stage he was even stupid enough to suggest he would become a manager. Just one of Wupert's huge c--k ups. This guy is completely different. Sounds like he has no intention of interfering with MoPo and will be managing the business to take it forward. All sounds great so lets hope he can walk the walk and not just talk the talk.
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: Nice to see that the daily echo has finally looked in to Ralph's CV instead of joining the lazy journalist story (previously printed btw) that he is an ice hokey coach and drawing parallels with the clive Woodward appointment. This guy is seriously credentialed and Saints are all the better for having him on board. Also to the doom and gloom merchants. I highly doubt that if MP is still manager that AL will want away or Shaw for that matter. I choose to believe that Ralph's comments regarding living beyond one's means was more to do with transfer payments rather than wages. Also loved the fact that he acknowledged those fans that can't get to St Mary's as being important as well.[/p][/quote]There is clearly no comparison between Woodward and this guy. Woodward's appointment was a joke and an embarrassment from day one. I think at one stage he was even stupid enough to suggest he would become a manager. Just one of Wupert's huge c--k ups. This guy is completely different. Sounds like he has no intention of interfering with MoPo and will be managing the business to take it forward. All sounds great so lets hope he can walk the walk and not just talk the talk. Clever Dick
  • Score: 5

10:19am Thu 13 Mar 14

notaclue says...

I think the Echo was 'partly' to blame for the previous situation so I hope that they can move on now too, in a slightly more constructive way.
I think the Echo was 'partly' to blame for the previous situation so I hope that they can move on now too, in a slightly more constructive way. notaclue
  • Score: 10

10:28am Thu 13 Mar 14

Chipmonk1 says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Chipmonk1 wrote:
Nice to see that the daily echo has finally looked in to Ralph's CV instead of joining the lazy journalist story (previously printed btw) that he is an ice hokey coach and drawing parallels with the clive Woodward appointment. This guy is seriously credentialed and Saints are all the better for having him on board. Also to the doom and gloom merchants. I highly doubt that if MP is still manager that AL will want away or Shaw for that matter. I choose to believe that Ralph's comments regarding living beyond one's means was more to do with transfer payments rather than wages. Also loved the fact that he acknowledged those fans that can't get to St Mary's as being important as well.
There is clearly no comparison between Woodward and this guy. Woodward's appointment was a joke and an embarrassment from day one. I think at one stage he was even stupid enough to suggest he would become a manager. Just one of Wupert's huge c--k ups. This guy is completely different. Sounds like he has no intention of interfering with MoPo and will be managing the business to take it forward. All sounds great so lets hope he can walk the walk and not just talk the talk.
My point exactly. There seems to be elements in the media that want to bring saints down (read daily mail) that drew parallels with Woodward. I am more optimistic about saints prospects than at any time in my years of support. Everything now seems in place just need to lock MoPo in on a long time contract and I believe the rest will take care of itself
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: Nice to see that the daily echo has finally looked in to Ralph's CV instead of joining the lazy journalist story (previously printed btw) that he is an ice hokey coach and drawing parallels with the clive Woodward appointment. This guy is seriously credentialed and Saints are all the better for having him on board. Also to the doom and gloom merchants. I highly doubt that if MP is still manager that AL will want away or Shaw for that matter. I choose to believe that Ralph's comments regarding living beyond one's means was more to do with transfer payments rather than wages. Also loved the fact that he acknowledged those fans that can't get to St Mary's as being important as well.[/p][/quote]There is clearly no comparison between Woodward and this guy. Woodward's appointment was a joke and an embarrassment from day one. I think at one stage he was even stupid enough to suggest he would become a manager. Just one of Wupert's huge c--k ups. This guy is completely different. Sounds like he has no intention of interfering with MoPo and will be managing the business to take it forward. All sounds great so lets hope he can walk the walk and not just talk the talk.[/p][/quote]My point exactly. There seems to be elements in the media that want to bring saints down (read daily mail) that drew parallels with Woodward. I am more optimistic about saints prospects than at any time in my years of support. Everything now seems in place just need to lock MoPo in on a long time contract and I believe the rest will take care of itself Chipmonk1
  • Score: 13

10:32am Thu 13 Mar 14

MisterGrimsdale says...

"Katharina Liebherr, who Krueger enjoys an incredibly strong bond with......" it says. Yes the bond he has with her is just not credible. I just can't believe how incredibly strong the bond he has with her. It is almost impossible to imagine how strong the bond he has with her. How do they do it? maintaining this unbelievably strong bond ........
Apart from the ridiculous hyperbole it's nice to see that basic grammar is no longer a requirement in journalism. There's hope for the illiterate everywhere. You'd think the Echo would have a bit more pride in itself wouldn't you, but no.
"Katharina Liebherr, who Krueger enjoys an incredibly strong bond with......" it says. Yes the bond he has with her is just not credible. I just can't believe how incredibly strong the bond he has with her. It is almost impossible to imagine how strong the bond he has with her. How do they do it? maintaining this unbelievably strong bond ........ Apart from the ridiculous hyperbole it's nice to see that basic grammar is no longer a requirement in journalism. There's hope for the illiterate everywhere. You'd think the Echo would have a bit more pride in itself wouldn't you, but no. MisterGrimsdale
  • Score: -43

10:36am Thu 13 Mar 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Thank you Katharina I always believed that you were in this for the long term. Cortese did well and built us up as a club as your father wished but it is now time to move on. The club is too big for one man, especially a dictatorial one, to run. You have replaced him with what appears to be an excellent team and still maintaining an active roll, hope you continue to come to most games its been great to see you at them.
The club set up now has a very professional look about it run with a team with international experience that makes us the envy of other clubs. We are lucky to have you as our owner and I am sure that your father (God Bless Him) would approve and be very proud of you.
You are changing the bus into a Juggernaut !! COYS
Thank you Katharina I always believed that you were in this for the long term. Cortese did well and built us up as a club as your father wished but it is now time to move on. The club is too big for one man, especially a dictatorial one, to run. You have replaced him with what appears to be an excellent team and still maintaining an active roll, hope you continue to come to most games its been great to see you at them. The club set up now has a very professional look about it run with a team with international experience that makes us the envy of other clubs. We are lucky to have you as our owner and I am sure that your father (God Bless Him) would approve and be very proud of you. You are changing the bus into a Juggernaut !! COYS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 27

10:42am Thu 13 Mar 14

george chivers says...

Cortese didn't communicate enough. Lowe said too much too often. Let's hope this guy gets it right. And gets the step improvements that Cortese got.
Cortese didn't communicate enough. Lowe said too much too often. Let's hope this guy gets it right. And gets the step improvements that Cortese got. george chivers
  • Score: 10

10:46am Thu 13 Mar 14

warrens 76 says...

Were can we realistically grow and what can we achieve against the pre existing corporate clubs.
A bigger stadium and common sense pricing to fill it is do-able with continued success on the pitch..45.000 is probably our max.
A quality global merchandising and fan building will increase revenues however we are a million miles from the Euro elites catching them is not on the cards.
Sky money is important however compared to United's, Chelsea's, Liverpools merchandising it comes a poor second.
Corporate hospitality Earns Arsenal more money than our entire gate!! we cannot compete with that...
Whilst the post might appear negative it is not meant to I just feel that we can push ourselves into 6th but above that require phenomenal revenues and the big clubs have already built their's before financial 'fair play' (sic) comes into effect effectively freezing out any future Walkers, Abromovich's or in our cas Liebherr's from giving us a leg up..
Realistically I think we can be just outside the big clubs league positions however just outside is a long way off them financially.
Were can we realistically grow and what can we achieve against the pre existing corporate clubs. A bigger stadium and common sense pricing to fill it is do-able with continued success on the pitch..45.000 is probably our max. A quality global merchandising and fan building will increase revenues however we are a million miles from the Euro elites catching them is not on the cards. Sky money is important however compared to United's, Chelsea's, Liverpools merchandising it comes a poor second. Corporate hospitality Earns Arsenal more money than our entire gate!! we cannot compete with that... Whilst the post might appear negative it is not meant to I just feel that we can push ourselves into 6th but above that require phenomenal revenues and the big clubs have already built their's before financial 'fair play' (sic) comes into effect effectively freezing out any future Walkers, Abromovich's or in our cas Liebherr's from giving us a leg up.. Realistically I think we can be just outside the big clubs league positions however just outside is a long way off them financially. warrens 76
  • Score: 4

10:51am Thu 13 Mar 14

Saint-Mike says...

Feeling optimistic.....but I shall be right behind the new set-up if next season Saints still have Tino, Adam and Luke, plus maybe 1 or 2 good signings......or do I ask too much??
Feeling optimistic.....but I shall be right behind the new set-up if next season Saints still have Tino, Adam and Luke, plus maybe 1 or 2 good signings......or do I ask too much?? Saint-Mike
  • Score: 11

10:57am Thu 13 Mar 14

zambucco says...

I'm reserving judgement until the summer transfer window opens and see what money is made available to continue our rise to join the European Elite.

But saying that, I was always happy with mid table in the past, just giving the big boys a scare now and then. It would be great to storm the Prem and Europe for a while.
I'm reserving judgement until the summer transfer window opens and see what money is made available to continue our rise to join the European Elite. But saying that, I was always happy with mid table in the past, just giving the big boys a scare now and then. It would be great to storm the Prem and Europe for a while. zambucco
  • Score: 5

11:08am Thu 13 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

It's all very well being positive today, if by some mischance of circumstance we don't get a result on Saturday the mood on here will swiftly change!

I have been a Saints supporter for too long to expect everything to go smoothly, but this, in my opinion is as positive as it has ever been. As fans, WE ALL still have a massive task ahead of us if we are to keep the ball rolling. There has seldom been an opportunity as good as this to grab some success, the future is bright it's red and white, onwards and upwards COYRs.
It's all very well being positive today, if by some mischance of circumstance we don't get a result on Saturday the mood on here will swiftly change! I have been a Saints supporter for too long to expect everything to go smoothly, but this, in my opinion is as positive as it has ever been. As fans, WE ALL still have a massive task ahead of us if we are to keep the ball rolling. There has seldom been an opportunity as good as this to grab some success, the future is bright it's red and white, onwards and upwards COYRs. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

11:13am Thu 13 Mar 14

NC Fan4Life says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Were can we realistically grow and what can we achieve against the pre existing corporate clubs.
A bigger stadium and common sense pricing to fill it is do-able with continued success on the pitch..45.000 is probably our max.
A quality global merchandising and fan building will increase revenues however we are a million miles from the Euro elites catching them is not on the cards.
Sky money is important however compared to United's, Chelsea's, Liverpools merchandising it comes a poor second.
Corporate hospitality Earns Arsenal more money than our entire gate!! we cannot compete with that...
Whilst the post might appear negative it is not meant to I just feel that we can push ourselves into 6th but above that require phenomenal revenues and the big clubs have already built their's before financial 'fair play' (sic) comes into effect effectively freezing out any future Walkers, Abromovich's or in our cas Liebherr's from giving us a leg up..
Realistically I think we can be just outside the big clubs league positions however just outside is a long way off them financially.
I agree with most of your post 'warrens', we do need to be realistic. Cheaper tickets would help fill an expanded 45k stadium which is about our limit because fact is that Southampton is not a large enough city in comparison with other big clubs.
However along with incoming financial restrictions is also a move to more home produced players. With our Academy and new training facilities we should be able to compete with the larger clubs providing the best ones can be retained. If we are well run and maximization of the commercial market, then there is no reason why we shouldn't compete at the top.
Either way our future looks secure. COYS
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Were can we realistically grow and what can we achieve against the pre existing corporate clubs. A bigger stadium and common sense pricing to fill it is do-able with continued success on the pitch..45.000 is probably our max. A quality global merchandising and fan building will increase revenues however we are a million miles from the Euro elites catching them is not on the cards. Sky money is important however compared to United's, Chelsea's, Liverpools merchandising it comes a poor second. Corporate hospitality Earns Arsenal more money than our entire gate!! we cannot compete with that... Whilst the post might appear negative it is not meant to I just feel that we can push ourselves into 6th but above that require phenomenal revenues and the big clubs have already built their's before financial 'fair play' (sic) comes into effect effectively freezing out any future Walkers, Abromovich's or in our cas Liebherr's from giving us a leg up.. Realistically I think we can be just outside the big clubs league positions however just outside is a long way off them financially.[/p][/quote]I agree with most of your post 'warrens', we do need to be realistic. Cheaper tickets would help fill an expanded 45k stadium which is about our limit because fact is that Southampton is not a large enough city in comparison with other big clubs. However along with incoming financial restrictions is also a move to more home produced players. With our Academy and new training facilities we should be able to compete with the larger clubs providing the best ones can be retained. If we are well run and maximization of the commercial market, then there is no reason why we shouldn't compete at the top. Either way our future looks secure. COYS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 7

11:20am Thu 13 Mar 14

Golden_Salamander says...

I think everyone can see that the Club is now reaching out to the local media (e.g. Saints banners / ticket info around every article). I just hope the Echo do not go and muck things up AGAIN by printing something that is clearly Anti-Saints and fed to then by some dodgy source.
What I mean by than :-
2002 They had meeting between Club & Echo to agree that stories would be checked first. Echo ran story a few days later about £2M payoff to Gray / Wadworth without checking with Club whereas the following eoy accounts showed that figure was less than 500k.
2010ish Various London papers print stories about London clubs buying AOC for less than £5M in the Jan transfer window and Echo repeat it as FACT (even rolling out Sherlock Holmes's mate to back it up), whereas AOC doesn't leave until the summer for 3 TIMES that amount.

The fans are watching the Echo stories, if they cannot work with this bloke there must be something seriously wrong at the Echo..
I think everyone can see that the Club is now reaching out to the local media (e.g. Saints banners / ticket info around every article). I just hope the Echo do not go and muck things up AGAIN by printing something that is clearly Anti-Saints and fed to then by some dodgy source. What I mean by than :- 2002 They had meeting between Club & Echo to agree that stories would be checked first. Echo ran story a few days later about £2M payoff to Gray / Wadworth without checking with Club whereas the following eoy accounts showed that figure was less than 500k. 2010ish Various London papers print stories about London clubs buying AOC for less than £5M in the Jan transfer window and Echo repeat it as FACT (even rolling out Sherlock Holmes's mate to back it up), whereas AOC doesn't leave until the summer for 3 TIMES that amount. The fans are watching the Echo stories, if they cannot work with this bloke there must be something seriously wrong at the Echo.. Golden_Salamander
  • Score: 7

11:33am Thu 13 Mar 14

Datarater says...

Now that Ralph is here maybe we will get the ice rink. ;-)
Now that Ralph is here maybe we will get the ice rink. ;-) Datarater
  • Score: -9

12:39pm Thu 13 Mar 14

AaronLeeSaint says...

Its an odd appointment to be sure, but one that I'm going to just embrace. Krueger seems to have an eye for success and financial structure, a potent combination, combined with his more open approach to his role as the chairman is a welcome change compared to the 'behind the iron curtain' secrecy of Cortese's tenure.

I mean no disrespect to ol' Nicola because he did help facilitate our take over with the Liebher family, but it is time to just move on. I agree with a comment above about lowering ticket prices and stadium expansion and who knows, judging from one of Kruegers interviews, we may be called the Southampton Saints or Southampton Town Stripes in the near future, I' happy with Southampton Football Club to be quite honest.
Its an odd appointment to be sure, but one that I'm going to just embrace. Krueger seems to have an eye for success and financial structure, a potent combination, combined with his more open approach to his role as the chairman is a welcome change compared to the 'behind the iron curtain' secrecy of Cortese's tenure. I mean no disrespect to ol' Nicola because he did help facilitate our take over with the Liebher family, but it is time to just move on. I agree with a comment above about lowering ticket prices and stadium expansion and who knows, judging from one of Kruegers interviews, we may be called the Southampton Saints or Southampton Town Stripes in the near future, I' happy with Southampton Football Club to be quite honest. AaronLeeSaint
  • Score: 3

1:20pm Thu 13 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

manure have a tie in with the new York Yankees, diverpool have a tie in with the boston red sox. perhaps with the appointment of RK and his obvious links with north American sports we may get a `tie in` with an American/Canadian team. this would help to increase the `brand` and hopefully merchandise.
as I said yesterday I am excited about the future and it will be great to see our club progress and grow.
I cant thank NC enough for the way he has transformed the club over the last few years, and yes I wanted him to stay, but he`s gone and we have a new regime now. there is a breath of fresh air going through the club and it feels great.
manure have a tie in with the new York Yankees, diverpool have a tie in with the boston red sox. perhaps with the appointment of RK and his obvious links with north American sports we may get a `tie in` with an American/Canadian team. this would help to increase the `brand` and hopefully merchandise. as I said yesterday I am excited about the future and it will be great to see our club progress and grow. I cant thank NC enough for the way he has transformed the club over the last few years, and yes I wanted him to stay, but he`s gone and we have a new regime now. there is a breath of fresh air going through the club and it feels great. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 2

1:25pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Mush On The Beach says...

I like the message that appears to be coming out of St Marys executive, if I understand it right it can be summed up in one word .... STABILITY.
Players will always come and go that is a fact, but if the fabric of the football club keeps it soul it can be summed up in one word .... SOUTHAMPTON.
I like the message that appears to be coming out of St Marys executive, if I understand it right it can be summed up in one word .... STABILITY. Players will always come and go that is a fact, but if the fabric of the football club keeps it soul it can be summed up in one word .... SOUTHAMPTON. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 11

1:28pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Littleton-Saint says...

We'll only be able to judge this appointment in the summer; if Saints
retain their best players and buy in a striker and defender to improve the quality, then we'll know that our club is retaining Cortese's ambition - if we sell any core players and fail to buy in top new ones, then we'll know that our club is not out to win something. I want to see Saints win something\qualify for the Champs League. Kruger is already talking austerity and this doesn't augur quite so well.
We'll only be able to judge this appointment in the summer; if Saints retain their best players and buy in a striker and defender to improve the quality, then we'll know that our club is retaining Cortese's ambition - if we sell any core players and fail to buy in top new ones, then we'll know that our club is not out to win something. I want to see Saints win something\qualify for the Champs League. Kruger is already talking austerity and this doesn't augur quite so well. Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 4

1:29pm Thu 13 Mar 14

milton road says...

Personally NC did a very good job for Saints, I read some of his interviews and they were always calculated and positive. What he achieved at this club was outstanding and let us face it when he and Markus walked in to ST Mary's, no one would have believed in three years we would be back where we belonged in the premier league. Even NC calculated 5 years. What we have to accolade is the progress made every season over those five years.
Thank you NC.

Whilst everything sounds bouncy and positive, there is a lot of talk about keeping players if we can and living within our means. Maybe i read something into it that is not there, a tightening of the purse strings. That we will not delve into the transfer market to the same extent as the last two seasons. Which have produced very mixed results, the disaster of Osvaldo, the inability of Ramirez to hold a first team place, Wanyama whose promising start to the season was cut short by injury and now has to prove his worth again. We have seen success stories though, one cannot argue that Lovren, Jay, Clyne and yes even Yosh have been worth their transfer fee. Osvaldo and Ramirez cost more than those 4, yet one would say those 4 have given us far better service. Its food for thought as to how we proceed in future in the transfer market and what we spend.

I doubt anyone would argue that since the takeover we have been an introvert club, almost secretive. That for all our success, we have not thrown ourselves it seems on the commercial stage. Now it appears we will with the states and canada being targeted by a chairman who is known there and has many contacts no doubt.

Whatever happens we have an owner in KL who has invested and is taking an interest. We are not lumbered with the huge business debts that clubs like Manchester Utd and Liverpool had to endure from new owners. The future is looking good and even if we have to live within our means, then that is better than most clubs.
Personally NC did a very good job for Saints, I read some of his interviews and they were always calculated and positive. What he achieved at this club was outstanding and let us face it when he and Markus walked in to ST Mary's, no one would have believed in three years we would be back where we belonged in the premier league. Even NC calculated 5 years. What we have to accolade is the progress made every season over those five years. Thank you NC. Whilst everything sounds bouncy and positive, there is a lot of talk about keeping players if we can and living within our means. Maybe i read something into it that is not there, a tightening of the purse strings. That we will not delve into the transfer market to the same extent as the last two seasons. Which have produced very mixed results, the disaster of Osvaldo, the inability of Ramirez to hold a first team place, Wanyama whose promising start to the season was cut short by injury and now has to prove his worth again. We have seen success stories though, one cannot argue that Lovren, Jay, Clyne and yes even Yosh have been worth their transfer fee. Osvaldo and Ramirez cost more than those 4, yet one would say those 4 have given us far better service. Its food for thought as to how we proceed in future in the transfer market and what we spend. I doubt anyone would argue that since the takeover we have been an introvert club, almost secretive. That for all our success, we have not thrown ourselves it seems on the commercial stage. Now it appears we will with the states and canada being targeted by a chairman who is known there and has many contacts no doubt. Whatever happens we have an owner in KL who has invested and is taking an interest. We are not lumbered with the huge business debts that clubs like Manchester Utd and Liverpool had to endure from new owners. The future is looking good and even if we have to live within our means, then that is better than most clubs. milton road
  • Score: 8

1:35pm Thu 13 Mar 14

george chivers says...

On a lighter note, a gem from my local newspaper. The Basingstoke Gazette.

Each week The Baz Gaz does a Q&A session with a well known local person. This week it is Father Mark Hogan who was brought up in Fareham and supports the lot down the road.

Q1. Who was your childhood hero and why?
Mark Hateley - the first Pompey player I knew to get an England cap.

Q12. What sports team do you support?
There is only one - Pompey

Q16. What is your proudest moment?
Marrying my sisters! and baptising my two nephews and nieces

The second part of his answer is both technically and politically correct!

I'll leave you with that!
On a lighter note, a gem from my local newspaper. The Basingstoke Gazette. Each week The Baz Gaz does a Q&A session with a well known local person. This week it is Father Mark Hogan who was brought up in Fareham and supports the lot down the road. Q1. Who was your childhood hero and why? Mark Hateley - the first Pompey player I knew to get an England cap. Q12. What sports team do you support? There is only one - Pompey Q16. What is your proudest moment? Marrying my sisters! and baptising my two nephews and nieces The second part of his answer is both technically and politically correct! I'll leave you with that! george chivers
  • Score: 13

1:52pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Mush On The Beach says...

george chivers wrote:
On a lighter note, a gem from my local newspaper. The Basingstoke Gazette.

Each week The Baz Gaz does a Q&A session with a well known local person. This week it is Father Mark Hogan who was brought up in Fareham and supports the lot down the road.

Q1. Who was your childhood hero and why?
Mark Hateley - the first Pompey player I knew to get an England cap.

Q12. What sports team do you support?
There is only one - Pompey

Q16. What is your proudest moment?
Marrying my sisters! and baptising my two nephews and nieces

The second part of his answer is both technically and politically correct!

I'll leave you with that!
That’s why the skunts are in purgatory and damnation with no vision of a future George .... Should have gone to SaintsSavers!
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: On a lighter note, a gem from my local newspaper. The Basingstoke Gazette. Each week The Baz Gaz does a Q&A session with a well known local person. This week it is Father Mark Hogan who was brought up in Fareham and supports the lot down the road. Q1. Who was your childhood hero and why? Mark Hateley - the first Pompey player I knew to get an England cap. Q12. What sports team do you support? There is only one - Pompey Q16. What is your proudest moment? Marrying my sisters! and baptising my two nephews and nieces The second part of his answer is both technically and politically correct! I'll leave you with that![/p][/quote]That’s why the skunts are in purgatory and damnation with no vision of a future George .... Should have gone to SaintsSavers! Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 5

2:03pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

george chivers wrote:
On a lighter note, a gem from my local newspaper. The Basingstoke Gazette.

Each week The Baz Gaz does a Q&A session with a well known local person. This week it is Father Mark Hogan who was brought up in Fareham and supports the lot down the road.

Q1. Who was your childhood hero and why?
Mark Hateley - the first Pompey player I knew to get an England cap.

Q12. What sports team do you support?
There is only one - Pompey

Q16. What is your proudest moment?
Marrying my sisters! and baptising my two nephews and nieces

The second part of his answer is both technically and politically correct!

I'll leave you with that!
I once knew a priest who married his Mum, but that's quite another story, George.

As for the new air of openness at SMS, it can only be a good thing.

Cortese wasn't perfect but he did an amazing job. He had his reasons for limiting contact with the press. Some of those reasons were rather paranoid but some came from a mistrust of journalists that had a factual basis. The problem was, once he got upset, he was more likely to throw his toys out of the pram than to enter into dialogue and find compromise.

If that has changed, then so much the better. However, it has to cut both ways and I hope the press - and that clearly includes the DE - will not only welcome the new ways but also respect them.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: On a lighter note, a gem from my local newspaper. The Basingstoke Gazette. Each week The Baz Gaz does a Q&A session with a well known local person. This week it is Father Mark Hogan who was brought up in Fareham and supports the lot down the road. Q1. Who was your childhood hero and why? Mark Hateley - the first Pompey player I knew to get an England cap. Q12. What sports team do you support? There is only one - Pompey Q16. What is your proudest moment? Marrying my sisters! and baptising my two nephews and nieces The second part of his answer is both technically and politically correct! I'll leave you with that![/p][/quote]I once knew a priest who married his Mum, but that's quite another story, George. As for the new air of openness at SMS, it can only be a good thing. Cortese wasn't perfect but he did an amazing job. He had his reasons for limiting contact with the press. Some of those reasons were rather paranoid but some came from a mistrust of journalists that had a factual basis. The problem was, once he got upset, he was more likely to throw his toys out of the pram than to enter into dialogue and find compromise. If that has changed, then so much the better. However, it has to cut both ways and I hope the press - and that clearly includes the DE - will not only welcome the new ways but also respect them. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 5

2:15pm Thu 13 Mar 14

SaintJD says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
We'll only be able to judge this appointment in the summer; if Saints
retain their best players and buy in a striker and defender to improve the quality, then we'll know that our club is retaining Cortese's ambition - if we sell any core players and fail to buy in top new ones, then we'll know that our club is not out to win something. I want to see Saints win something\qualify for the Champs League. Kruger is already talking austerity and this doesn't augur quite so well.
Why is he talking austerity? I'm hearing a different message. Yes, he does include getting the best out of what we can afford, but that's just basic, sensible business.

Yes, provided he doesn't get a ridiculously good offer from elsewhere that nobody in their right mind would turn down, then I think the club should do absolutely everything it can to keep MP, without being held to ransom to the point that it isn't viable.

But basically, if it takes a king's ransom for him to stay he'd be staying for the wrong reasons - we want him here because he still sees the vision.

And that vision never had anything to do with money or investment.

I honestly believe that MP will not be demanding money to spend because he's not that sort of manager. I think he will demand that:

The club has to have ambitions to improve
No player will leave unless he sanctions it and gets the money to spend
He will be left to do his job and
He will get support where needed
He will be able to decide his own transfers (something I doubt he's had full control on in the past)

If the last year or two have taught us anything it is that money is the total opposite of what our success and progression is based on.

In fact, when we have spent money it has brought in the only players who don't seem to be fully motivated and passionate about playing for us.

Basically, about nine of our best first team players cost a combined total smaller than Dani Osvaldo.

In fact, even before the club invests a penny we should have plenty of funds to reinvest in several very high quality players of the type I've just mentioned. And the great thing is we'll get them at a better price because players, especially young players, will want to come here having seen us this season and seen what we stand for.

But MP will demand that we don't sell our best players as you suggest, unless, in the case of Luke Shaw, it is a deal he believes will benefit the club and the player. He won't want us to be a selling club or lose our home produced players.

In terms of winning something/Champions League, obviously, yes, doesn't everyone want to do that, but let's also remember where we've come from, how much we owe to our owners, how much they've already given us and how far we've come. Let's also remember that we can't fall into the trap of being unsustainable and paying for it later.

Sure, if the new senior team start taking money from transfers out of the team that will be a disaster but, if you want to do that, why hire a guy who is primarily interesting in sport and clearly has a passion for winning?

Whatever happens, remember that we could be in League One with a posh bloke with a background in retirement homes as our chairman and count your blessings.

Anyway, nice to see a group of people in charge of a club who look happy to be here, approachable and willing to engage with their fan base - many fans would die for that.
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: We'll only be able to judge this appointment in the summer; if Saints retain their best players and buy in a striker and defender to improve the quality, then we'll know that our club is retaining Cortese's ambition - if we sell any core players and fail to buy in top new ones, then we'll know that our club is not out to win something. I want to see Saints win something\qualify for the Champs League. Kruger is already talking austerity and this doesn't augur quite so well.[/p][/quote]Why is he talking austerity? I'm hearing a different message. Yes, he does include getting the best out of what we can afford, but that's just basic, sensible business. Yes, provided he doesn't get a ridiculously good offer from elsewhere that nobody in their right mind would turn down, then I think the club should do absolutely everything it can to keep MP, without being held to ransom to the point that it isn't viable. But basically, if it takes a king's ransom for him to stay he'd be staying for the wrong reasons - we want him here because he still sees the vision. And that vision never had anything to do with money or investment. I honestly believe that MP will not be demanding money to spend because he's not that sort of manager. I think he will demand that: The club has to have ambitions to improve No player will leave unless he sanctions it and gets the money to spend He will be left to do his job and He will get support where needed He will be able to decide his own transfers (something I doubt he's had full control on in the past) If the last year or two have taught us anything it is that money is the total opposite of what our success and progression is based on. In fact, when we have spent money it has brought in the only players who don't seem to be fully motivated and passionate about playing for us. Basically, about nine of our best first team players cost a combined total smaller than Dani Osvaldo. In fact, even before the club invests a penny we should have plenty of funds to reinvest in several very high quality players of the type I've just mentioned. And the great thing is we'll get them at a better price because players, especially young players, will want to come here having seen us this season and seen what we stand for. But MP will demand that we don't sell our best players as you suggest, unless, in the case of Luke Shaw, it is a deal he believes will benefit the club and the player. He won't want us to be a selling club or lose our home produced players. In terms of winning something/Champions League, obviously, yes, doesn't everyone want to do that, but let's also remember where we've come from, how much we owe to our owners, how much they've already given us and how far we've come. Let's also remember that we can't fall into the trap of being unsustainable and paying for it later. Sure, if the new senior team start taking money from transfers out of the team that will be a disaster but, if you want to do that, why hire a guy who is primarily interesting in sport and clearly has a passion for winning? Whatever happens, remember that we could be in League One with a posh bloke with a background in retirement homes as our chairman and count your blessings. Anyway, nice to see a group of people in charge of a club who look happy to be here, approachable and willing to engage with their fan base - many fans would die for that. SaintJD
  • Score: 13

2:41pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Littleton-Saint says...

I agree with you, SaintJD.
With the ample Sky cash, though, there's
plenty in the kitty to improve the squad - spending
money is no guarantee, but spending wisely
is imperative for success. We can't rely on
the Academy, alone.
Any club with true ambition would keep Shaw, regardless.
I agree with you, SaintJD. With the ample Sky cash, though, there's plenty in the kitty to improve the squad - spending money is no guarantee, but spending wisely is imperative for success. We can't rely on the Academy, alone. Any club with true ambition would keep Shaw, regardless. Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 7

3:08pm Thu 13 Mar 14

lowe esteem says...

FANBASE: Not our main income stream, but there is still incredible untapped potential here. A radius up to London has vast potential still. The burgeoning 'new fan' base will only be enhanced by 'fairer' prices and this recent 'reaching out' initiative which will see many of the individual and corporate disenfranchised returning 'home'
MARKETING: The club can sell it's commercial wares better, and not just via the Shops and Website. Branding should and could be bolder. Said it before, and I'll say it again- the Distinctive and Famous Red and White Striped Shirt needs to be part of this. Media savvy will only help too.
PR: Look after the above said Fans, the ex-players, the media, and keep working within the wider community. We are all noticing that this is returning, keep it up.
TEAM: We all know this is the hard bit, it's about all of us, including the Manager, and we can all continue to play our part in this forward momentum.,Keep up the good work. Saints, we will be Big Time without the Charlies.
FANBASE: Not our main income stream, but there is still incredible untapped potential here. A radius up to London has vast potential still. The burgeoning 'new fan' base will only be enhanced by 'fairer' prices and this recent 'reaching out' initiative which will see many of the individual and corporate disenfranchised returning 'home' MARKETING: The club can sell it's commercial wares better, and not just via the Shops and Website. Branding should and could be bolder. Said it before, and I'll say it again- the Distinctive and Famous Red and White Striped Shirt needs to be part of this. Media savvy will only help too. PR: Look after the above said Fans, the ex-players, the media, and keep working within the wider community. We are all noticing that this is returning, keep it up. TEAM: We all know this is the hard bit, it's about all of us, including the Manager, and we can all continue to play our part in this forward momentum.,Keep up the good work. Saints, we will be Big Time without the Charlies. lowe esteem
  • Score: 1

3:11pm Thu 13 Mar 14

SaintJD says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
george chivers wrote:
On a lighter note, a gem from my local newspaper. The Basingstoke Gazette.

Each week The Baz Gaz does a Q&A session with a well known local person. This week it is Father Mark Hogan who was brought up in Fareham and supports the lot down the road.

Q1. Who was your childhood hero and why?
Mark Hateley - the first Pompey player I knew to get an England cap.

Q12. What sports team do you support?
There is only one - Pompey

Q16. What is your proudest moment?
Marrying my sisters! and baptising my two nephews and nieces

The second part of his answer is both technically and politically correct!

I'll leave you with that!
I once knew a priest who married his Mum, but that's quite another story, George.

As for the new air of openness at SMS, it can only be a good thing.

Cortese wasn't perfect but he did an amazing job. He had his reasons for limiting contact with the press. Some of those reasons were rather paranoid but some came from a mistrust of journalists that had a factual basis. The problem was, once he got upset, he was more likely to throw his toys out of the pram than to enter into dialogue and find compromise.

If that has changed, then so much the better. However, it has to cut both ways and I hope the press - and that clearly includes the DE - will not only welcome the new ways but also respect them.
Agreed, but you have to ask if Nicola's tactics worked anyway - generally if you bully journalists they will bite you, certainly not tow the line, unless they aren't very good journalists.

Far from making the newspaper print positive on-message stories it was always going to do the opposite, so I can't really see how it can't be positive from a reporting point of view.

Yes, I'd still expect the Echo to question things and have their own viewpoint, but at least now they can potentially get the whole story rather than relying on speculation, which often made it look like they were stirring things up.

For instance, if there are rumours about Luke Shaw in the summer I want to hear about them, even if they are just paper talk. And if we sell him I want the Echo to ask the club why, not just take the press release spin.

And, if the club has a good story to tell and good justification they look good, if they don't, they look bad. That's how good journalism should work.

Of course if you are constantly trying to dig up dirt and stir things up that's different, but as I said, if you're open to them anyway and sensible in understanding they have a job to do, why would they want to do that in the first place.

Clearly people and organisations are selfish things so if you help them and make them look good, they'll help you and that works both ways.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: On a lighter note, a gem from my local newspaper. The Basingstoke Gazette. Each week The Baz Gaz does a Q&A session with a well known local person. This week it is Father Mark Hogan who was brought up in Fareham and supports the lot down the road. Q1. Who was your childhood hero and why? Mark Hateley - the first Pompey player I knew to get an England cap. Q12. What sports team do you support? There is only one - Pompey Q16. What is your proudest moment? Marrying my sisters! and baptising my two nephews and nieces The second part of his answer is both technically and politically correct! I'll leave you with that![/p][/quote]I once knew a priest who married his Mum, but that's quite another story, George. As for the new air of openness at SMS, it can only be a good thing. Cortese wasn't perfect but he did an amazing job. He had his reasons for limiting contact with the press. Some of those reasons were rather paranoid but some came from a mistrust of journalists that had a factual basis. The problem was, once he got upset, he was more likely to throw his toys out of the pram than to enter into dialogue and find compromise. If that has changed, then so much the better. However, it has to cut both ways and I hope the press - and that clearly includes the DE - will not only welcome the new ways but also respect them.[/p][/quote]Agreed, but you have to ask if Nicola's tactics worked anyway - generally if you bully journalists they will bite you, certainly not tow the line, unless they aren't very good journalists. Far from making the newspaper print positive on-message stories it was always going to do the opposite, so I can't really see how it can't be positive from a reporting point of view. Yes, I'd still expect the Echo to question things and have their own viewpoint, but at least now they can potentially get the whole story rather than relying on speculation, which often made it look like they were stirring things up. For instance, if there are rumours about Luke Shaw in the summer I want to hear about them, even if they are just paper talk. And if we sell him I want the Echo to ask the club why, not just take the press release spin. And, if the club has a good story to tell and good justification they look good, if they don't, they look bad. That's how good journalism should work. Of course if you are constantly trying to dig up dirt and stir things up that's different, but as I said, if you're open to them anyway and sensible in understanding they have a job to do, why would they want to do that in the first place. Clearly people and organisations are selfish things so if you help them and make them look good, they'll help you and that works both ways. SaintJD
  • Score: 4

3:55pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

SaintJD wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
george chivers wrote:
On a lighter note, a gem from my local newspaper. The Basingstoke Gazette.

Each week The Baz Gaz does a Q&A session with a well known local person. This week it is Father Mark Hogan who was brought up in Fareham and supports the lot down the road.

Q1. Who was your childhood hero and why?
Mark Hateley - the first Pompey player I knew to get an England cap.

Q12. What sports team do you support?
There is only one - Pompey

Q16. What is your proudest moment?
Marrying my sisters! and baptising my two nephews and nieces

The second part of his answer is both technically and politically correct!

I'll leave you with that!
I once knew a priest who married his Mum, but that's quite another story, George.

As for the new air of openness at SMS, it can only be a good thing.

Cortese wasn't perfect but he did an amazing job. He had his reasons for limiting contact with the press. Some of those reasons were rather paranoid but some came from a mistrust of journalists that had a factual basis. The problem was, once he got upset, he was more likely to throw his toys out of the pram than to enter into dialogue and find compromise.

If that has changed, then so much the better. However, it has to cut both ways and I hope the press - and that clearly includes the DE - will not only welcome the new ways but also respect them.
Agreed, but you have to ask if Nicola's tactics worked anyway - generally if you bully journalists they will bite you, certainly not tow the line, unless they aren't very good journalists.

Far from making the newspaper print positive on-message stories it was always going to do the opposite, so I can't really see how it can't be positive from a reporting point of view.

Yes, I'd still expect the Echo to question things and have their own viewpoint, but at least now they can potentially get the whole story rather than relying on speculation, which often made it look like they were stirring things up.

For instance, if there are rumours about Luke Shaw in the summer I want to hear about them, even if they are just paper talk. And if we sell him I want the Echo to ask the club why, not just take the press release spin.

And, if the club has a good story to tell and good justification they look good, if they don't, they look bad. That's how good journalism should work.

Of course if you are constantly trying to dig up dirt and stir things up that's different, but as I said, if you're open to them anyway and sensible in understanding they have a job to do, why would they want to do that in the first place.

Clearly people and organisations are selfish things so if you help them and make them look good, they'll help you and that works both ways.
Great reply, JD.

I would say that, despite his 'ways', NC DID get some great national coverage at times. Otherwise, I totally agree with you.

I love this line: '....I want the Echo to ask the club why, not just take the press release spin.'

I think the DE and the nationals can respect this new openness without abusing it OR feeling compromised. It's all good!
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: On a lighter note, a gem from my local newspaper. The Basingstoke Gazette. Each week The Baz Gaz does a Q&A session with a well known local person. This week it is Father Mark Hogan who was brought up in Fareham and supports the lot down the road. Q1. Who was your childhood hero and why? Mark Hateley - the first Pompey player I knew to get an England cap. Q12. What sports team do you support? There is only one - Pompey Q16. What is your proudest moment? Marrying my sisters! and baptising my two nephews and nieces The second part of his answer is both technically and politically correct! I'll leave you with that![/p][/quote]I once knew a priest who married his Mum, but that's quite another story, George. As for the new air of openness at SMS, it can only be a good thing. Cortese wasn't perfect but he did an amazing job. He had his reasons for limiting contact with the press. Some of those reasons were rather paranoid but some came from a mistrust of journalists that had a factual basis. The problem was, once he got upset, he was more likely to throw his toys out of the pram than to enter into dialogue and find compromise. If that has changed, then so much the better. However, it has to cut both ways and I hope the press - and that clearly includes the DE - will not only welcome the new ways but also respect them.[/p][/quote]Agreed, but you have to ask if Nicola's tactics worked anyway - generally if you bully journalists they will bite you, certainly not tow the line, unless they aren't very good journalists. Far from making the newspaper print positive on-message stories it was always going to do the opposite, so I can't really see how it can't be positive from a reporting point of view. Yes, I'd still expect the Echo to question things and have their own viewpoint, but at least now they can potentially get the whole story rather than relying on speculation, which often made it look like they were stirring things up. For instance, if there are rumours about Luke Shaw in the summer I want to hear about them, even if they are just paper talk. And if we sell him I want the Echo to ask the club why, not just take the press release spin. And, if the club has a good story to tell and good justification they look good, if they don't, they look bad. That's how good journalism should work. Of course if you are constantly trying to dig up dirt and stir things up that's different, but as I said, if you're open to them anyway and sensible in understanding they have a job to do, why would they want to do that in the first place. Clearly people and organisations are selfish things so if you help them and make them look good, they'll help you and that works both ways.[/p][/quote]Great reply, JD. I would say that, despite his 'ways', NC DID get some great national coverage at times. Otherwise, I totally agree with you. I love this line: '....I want the Echo to ask the club why, not just take the press release spin.' I think the DE and the nationals can respect this new openness without abusing it OR feeling compromised. It's all good! Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 4

4:39pm Thu 13 Mar 14

andysaints007 says...

MisterGrimsdale wrote:
"Katharina Liebherr, who Krueger enjoys an incredibly strong bond with......" it says. Yes the bond he has with her is just not credible. I just can't believe how incredibly strong the bond he has with her. It is almost impossible to imagine how strong the bond he has with her. How do they do it? maintaining this unbelievably strong bond ........
Apart from the ridiculous hyperbole it's nice to see that basic grammar is no longer a requirement in journalism. There's hope for the illiterate everywhere. You'd think the Echo would have a bit more pride in itself wouldn't you, but no.
YAWN - Blimey could you be any more boring!
[quote][p][bold]MisterGrimsdale[/bold] wrote: "Katharina Liebherr, who Krueger enjoys an incredibly strong bond with......" it says. Yes the bond he has with her is just not credible. I just can't believe how incredibly strong the bond he has with her. It is almost impossible to imagine how strong the bond he has with her. How do they do it? maintaining this unbelievably strong bond ........ Apart from the ridiculous hyperbole it's nice to see that basic grammar is no longer a requirement in journalism. There's hope for the illiterate everywhere. You'd think the Echo would have a bit more pride in itself wouldn't you, but no.[/p][/quote]YAWN - Blimey could you be any more boring! andysaints007
  • Score: 3

4:50pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Epsom Saint says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
We'll only be able to judge this appointment in the summer; if Saints retain their best players and buy in a striker and defender to improve the quality, then we'll know that our club is retaining Cortese's ambition - if we sell any core players and fail to buy in top new ones, then we'll know that our club is not out to win something. I want to see Saints win something\qualify for the Champs League. Kruger is already talking austerity and this doesn't augur quite so well.
I think this is too simplistic - football, business, and life is more complicated than that. It's not fair to say the club is lacking ambition purely because we sell one of our better players - there could be a number factors in the decision. I liked his point about there being no shotcuts and earning our position - let's trust the board and management to make the decisions, and give them the time they deserve to develop this fantastic football cub.
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: We'll only be able to judge this appointment in the summer; if Saints retain their best players and buy in a striker and defender to improve the quality, then we'll know that our club is retaining Cortese's ambition - if we sell any core players and fail to buy in top new ones, then we'll know that our club is not out to win something. I want to see Saints win something\qualify for the Champs League. Kruger is already talking austerity and this doesn't augur quite so well.[/p][/quote]I think this is too simplistic - football, business, and life is more complicated than that. It's not fair to say the club is lacking ambition purely because we sell one of our better players - there could be a number factors in the decision. I liked his point about there being no shotcuts and earning our position - let's trust the board and management to make the decisions, and give them the time they deserve to develop this fantastic football cub. Epsom Saint
  • Score: 2

5:20pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Mister E says...

Epsom Saint wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
We'll only be able to judge this appointment in the summer; if Saints retain their best players and buy in a striker and defender to improve the quality, then we'll know that our club is retaining Cortese's ambition - if we sell any core players and fail to buy in top new ones, then we'll know that our club is not out to win something. I want to see Saints win something\qualify for the Champs League. Kruger is already talking austerity and this doesn't augur quite so well.
I think this is too simplistic - football, business, and life is more complicated than that. It's not fair to say the club is lacking ambition purely because we sell one of our better players - there could be a number factors in the decision. I liked his point about there being no shotcuts and earning our position - let's trust the board and management to make the decisions, and give them the time they deserve to develop this fantastic football cub.
Agree. But I'd go a little further in saying that living within our means does not equate to a lack of ambition - what had we been doing under Cortese? We've put a lot of money in the infrastructure (training ground, academy etc) and also some big signings (with mixed results of course). Were we perilously close to going bust? No, far from it!
He's talking common sense! That, and ambition, are not mutually exclusive!
[quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: We'll only be able to judge this appointment in the summer; if Saints retain their best players and buy in a striker and defender to improve the quality, then we'll know that our club is retaining Cortese's ambition - if we sell any core players and fail to buy in top new ones, then we'll know that our club is not out to win something. I want to see Saints win something\qualify for the Champs League. Kruger is already talking austerity and this doesn't augur quite so well.[/p][/quote]I think this is too simplistic - football, business, and life is more complicated than that. It's not fair to say the club is lacking ambition purely because we sell one of our better players - there could be a number factors in the decision. I liked his point about there being no shotcuts and earning our position - let's trust the board and management to make the decisions, and give them the time they deserve to develop this fantastic football cub.[/p][/quote]Agree. But I'd go a little further in saying that living within our means does not equate to a lack of ambition - what had we been doing under Cortese? We've put a lot of money in the infrastructure (training ground, academy etc) and also some big signings (with mixed results of course). Were we perilously close to going bust? No, far from it! He's talking common sense! That, and ambition, are not mutually exclusive! Mister E
  • Score: 3

5:31pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Tye-Dye pt2 says...

What is refreshing to see in these tumultuous times where the fan base is totally at war with the owners i.e Cardiff, Hull, Man U etc is our lady owner looks so happy and has totally got our affinity for her dad, and lest we forget this lady runs one of the biggest companies in Europe. Who knows or cares when the Don tended his resignation that KL may have thought to get shot of us, she clearly doesn't feel that way anymore(if she ever did?) so our future is extremely stable in the boardroom and as fans we can rest assure we are in very safe hands. It certainly ain't just the weather that's rather glorious on the South Coast at the moment, not a cloud in the sky where the club is concerned too, the sun truly does shine on the righteous oh and who the f*** is laughing now! UTMS!!!
What is refreshing to see in these tumultuous times where the fan base is totally at war with the owners i.e Cardiff, Hull, Man U etc is our lady owner looks so happy and has totally got our affinity for her dad, and lest we forget this lady runs one of the biggest companies in Europe. Who knows or cares when the Don tended his resignation that KL may have thought to get shot of us, she clearly doesn't feel that way anymore(if she ever did?) so our future is extremely stable in the boardroom and as fans we can rest assure we are in very safe hands. It certainly ain't just the weather that's rather glorious on the South Coast at the moment, not a cloud in the sky where the club is concerned too, the sun truly does shine on the righteous oh and who the f*** is laughing now! UTMS!!! Tye-Dye pt2
  • Score: 0

5:47pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Clever Dick says...

george chivers wrote:
On a lighter note, a gem from my local newspaper. The Basingstoke Gazette.

Each week The Baz Gaz does a Q&A session with a well known local person. This week it is Father Mark Hogan who was brought up in Fareham and supports the lot down the road.

Q1. Who was your childhood hero and why?
Mark Hateley - the first Pompey player I knew to get an England cap.

Q12. What sports team do you support?
There is only one - Pompey

Q16. What is your proudest moment?
Marrying my sisters! and baptising my two nephews and nieces

The second part of his answer is both technically and politically correct!

I'll leave you with that!
Well there you have it. I believe this now seriously questions whether there actually is a God. I mean isn't it obvious that a priest would have been told that he is clearly supporting the wrong team. But then again of course perhaps he really does exist and he is responsible for Poopey being in their current and rightful position. He does have a little work still to do though. Why has he got us languishing way down in the depths of the Premier League. We really should be at least 8 places higher next season.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: On a lighter note, a gem from my local newspaper. The Basingstoke Gazette. Each week The Baz Gaz does a Q&A session with a well known local person. This week it is Father Mark Hogan who was brought up in Fareham and supports the lot down the road. Q1. Who was your childhood hero and why? Mark Hateley - the first Pompey player I knew to get an England cap. Q12. What sports team do you support? There is only one - Pompey Q16. What is your proudest moment? Marrying my sisters! and baptising my two nephews and nieces The second part of his answer is both technically and politically correct! I'll leave you with that![/p][/quote]Well there you have it. I believe this now seriously questions whether there actually is a God. I mean isn't it obvious that a priest would have been told that he is clearly supporting the wrong team. But then again of course perhaps he really does exist and he is responsible for Poopey being in their current and rightful position. He does have a little work still to do though. Why has he got us languishing way down in the depths of the Premier League. We really should be at least 8 places higher next season. Clever Dick
  • Score: 0

6:02pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Clever Dick wrote:
george chivers wrote:
On a lighter note, a gem from my local newspaper. The Basingstoke Gazette.

Each week The Baz Gaz does a Q&A session with a well known local person. This week it is Father Mark Hogan who was brought up in Fareham and supports the lot down the road.

Q1. Who was your childhood hero and why?
Mark Hateley - the first Pompey player I knew to get an England cap.

Q12. What sports team do you support?
There is only one - Pompey

Q16. What is your proudest moment?
Marrying my sisters! and baptising my two nephews and nieces

The second part of his answer is both technically and politically correct!

I'll leave you with that!
Well there you have it. I believe this now seriously questions whether there actually is a God. I mean isn't it obvious that a priest would have been told that he is clearly supporting the wrong team. But then again of course perhaps he really does exist and he is responsible for Poopey being in their current and rightful position. He does have a little work still to do though. Why has he got us languishing way down in the depths of the Premier League. We really should be at least 8 places higher next season.
We'e being taught patience, CD.

Meanwhile, God is trying to teach the skunts humility. Alas, some of them (skating on thin ice, Blue, white and dead etc.) don't seem to be listening.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: On a lighter note, a gem from my local newspaper. The Basingstoke Gazette. Each week The Baz Gaz does a Q&A session with a well known local person. This week it is Father Mark Hogan who was brought up in Fareham and supports the lot down the road. Q1. Who was your childhood hero and why? Mark Hateley - the first Pompey player I knew to get an England cap. Q12. What sports team do you support? There is only one - Pompey Q16. What is your proudest moment? Marrying my sisters! and baptising my two nephews and nieces The second part of his answer is both technically and politically correct! I'll leave you with that![/p][/quote]Well there you have it. I believe this now seriously questions whether there actually is a God. I mean isn't it obvious that a priest would have been told that he is clearly supporting the wrong team. But then again of course perhaps he really does exist and he is responsible for Poopey being in their current and rightful position. He does have a little work still to do though. Why has he got us languishing way down in the depths of the Premier League. We really should be at least 8 places higher next season.[/p][/quote]We'e being taught patience, CD. Meanwhile, God is trying to teach the skunts humility. Alas, some of them (skating on thin ice, Blue, white and dead etc.) don't seem to be listening. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 0

6:53pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Glenn(Leeds) says...

on a different topic, can anyone shed any light on the reason why our big black team coach with 'southampton fc team coach' in the window was driving through north Leeds today.
on a different topic, can anyone shed any light on the reason why our big black team coach with 'southampton fc team coach' in the window was driving through north Leeds today. Glenn(Leeds)
  • Score: 0

7:35pm Thu 13 Mar 14

saintmicky says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Were can we realistically grow and what can we achieve against the pre existing corporate clubs.
A bigger stadium and common sense pricing to fill it is do-able with continued success on the pitch..45.000 is probably our max.
A quality global merchandising and fan building will increase revenues however we are a million miles from the Euro elites catching them is not on the cards.
Sky money is important however compared to United's, Chelsea's, Liverpools merchandising it comes a poor second.
Corporate hospitality Earns Arsenal more money than our entire gate!! we cannot compete with that...
Whilst the post might appear negative it is not meant to I just feel that we can push ourselves into 6th but above that require phenomenal revenues and the big clubs have already built their's before financial 'fair play' (sic) comes into effect effectively freezing out any future Walkers, Abromovich's or in our cas Liebherr's from giving us a leg up..
Realistically I think we can be just outside the big clubs league positions however just outside is a long way off them financially.
Warrens, you are spot on in your assessment of how merchandising and fan base are the drivers for long term success at the elite level of the game, but in your last post on the subject, (that I considered one of the best posts I have read on this site), you had the same clear understanding of the requirement, but a far more positive outlook, based upon reaching the up-tapped resource of young fans that currently misguidedly 'support' the big four clubs. Now Poopey barely exist, and we are a serious top half of the table side you never know! Most of the cities that are bigger have their loyalties split between 2 or more teams, I just hope our management team share your understanding of what needs to be done to get into a permanently strong position by getting into our schools and tyro set ups, and getting the youngsters to be Saints fans for life.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Were can we realistically grow and what can we achieve against the pre existing corporate clubs. A bigger stadium and common sense pricing to fill it is do-able with continued success on the pitch..45.000 is probably our max. A quality global merchandising and fan building will increase revenues however we are a million miles from the Euro elites catching them is not on the cards. Sky money is important however compared to United's, Chelsea's, Liverpools merchandising it comes a poor second. Corporate hospitality Earns Arsenal more money than our entire gate!! we cannot compete with that... Whilst the post might appear negative it is not meant to I just feel that we can push ourselves into 6th but above that require phenomenal revenues and the big clubs have already built their's before financial 'fair play' (sic) comes into effect effectively freezing out any future Walkers, Abromovich's or in our cas Liebherr's from giving us a leg up.. Realistically I think we can be just outside the big clubs league positions however just outside is a long way off them financially.[/p][/quote]Warrens, you are spot on in your assessment of how merchandising and fan base are the drivers for long term success at the elite level of the game, but in your last post on the subject, (that I considered one of the best posts I have read on this site), you had the same clear understanding of the requirement, but a far more positive outlook, based upon reaching the up-tapped resource of young fans that currently misguidedly 'support' the big four clubs. Now Poopey barely exist, and we are a serious top half of the table side you never know! Most of the cities that are bigger have their loyalties split between 2 or more teams, I just hope our management team share your understanding of what needs to be done to get into a permanently strong position by getting into our schools and tyro set ups, and getting the youngsters to be Saints fans for life. saintmicky
  • Score: 1

7:38pm Thu 13 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Glenn(Leeds) wrote:
on a different topic, can anyone shed any light on the reason why our big black team coach with 'southampton fc team coach' in the window was driving through north Leeds today.
When it is not needed by the Saints I think it is used for executive charters, probably some posh Tyke knobs, off of one those Cruise Liners that came in to Southampton today?
[quote][p][bold]Glenn(Leeds)[/bold] wrote: on a different topic, can anyone shed any light on the reason why our big black team coach with 'southampton fc team coach' in the window was driving through north Leeds today.[/p][/quote]When it is not needed by the Saints I think it is used for executive charters, probably some posh Tyke knobs, off of one those Cruise Liners that came in to Southampton today? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -6

9:19pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Glenn(Leeds) wrote:
on a different topic, can anyone shed any light on the reason why our big black team coach with 'southampton fc team coach' in the window was driving through north Leeds today.
Maybe it was looking for the Leeds' defence, just to prove the point that, these days, anyone can drive a coach through the Leeds' defence.
[quote][p][bold]Glenn(Leeds)[/bold] wrote: on a different topic, can anyone shed any light on the reason why our big black team coach with 'southampton fc team coach' in the window was driving through north Leeds today.[/p][/quote]Maybe it was looking for the Leeds' defence, just to prove the point that, these days, anyone can drive a coach through the Leeds' defence. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

9:36pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Santa Retfordia says...

What I'd like to know is how Ralph and Katharina know each other in the first place. Is it something to do with the World Economic Forum,which is based in Geneva and holds its annual (and somewhat controversial) meetings in the Swiss town of Davos? It's a mysterious gathering of the world's richest and most influential people who share ideas on how to advance their interests. Ralph has attended and the Liebherrs only live down the road so who knows? I suspect it's his connections in this field that lie (in part) behind his plans to boost the club's commercial performance.

Less controversially, anyone noticed how Katharina's jazzed up her hair? Looking good!
What I'd like to know is how Ralph and Katharina know each other in the first place. Is it something to do with the World Economic Forum,which is based in Geneva and holds its annual (and somewhat controversial) meetings in the Swiss town of Davos? It's a mysterious gathering of the world's richest and most influential people who share ideas on how to advance their interests. Ralph has attended and the Liebherrs only live down the road so who knows? I suspect it's his connections in this field that lie (in part) behind his plans to boost the club's commercial performance. Less controversially, anyone noticed how Katharina's jazzed up her hair? Looking good! Santa Retfordia
  • Score: -1

9:38pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Santa Retfordia says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Glenn(Leeds) wrote:
on a different topic, can anyone shed any light on the reason why our big black team coach with 'southampton fc team coach' in the window was driving through north Leeds today.
Maybe it was looking for the Leeds' defence, just to prove the point that, these days, anyone can drive a coach through the Leeds' defence.
Last time we were in Leeds we had no need to park a bus; we just put Kelvin in net.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Glenn(Leeds)[/bold] wrote: on a different topic, can anyone shed any light on the reason why our big black team coach with 'southampton fc team coach' in the window was driving through north Leeds today.[/p][/quote]Maybe it was looking for the Leeds' defence, just to prove the point that, these days, anyone can drive a coach through the Leeds' defence.[/p][/quote]Last time we were in Leeds we had no need to park a bus; we just put Kelvin in net. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 0

11:36pm Thu 13 Mar 14

nannupsaint says...

In 46 posts I'm surprised that there is only one mention of red and white stripes. If Ralph is genuine about engaging with the fan base he needs to be told that the stripes MUST come back.
In 46 posts I'm surprised that there is only one mention of red and white stripes. If Ralph is genuine about engaging with the fan base he needs to be told that the stripes MUST come back. nannupsaint
  • Score: -1

5:58am Fri 14 Mar 14

milton road says...

Wonder i the stripes will come back, there is a very real possibility that the stadium name will change and possibly team name. I am not sure whether it was on the sky interview or the seven and a half min interview on BBC web where he states at the end we are looking at the renaming rights. Which may mean its a whole new look to make us commercially viable.
Wonder i the stripes will come back, there is a very real possibility that the stadium name will change and possibly team name. I am not sure whether it was on the sky interview or the seven and a half min interview on BBC web where he states at the end we are looking at the renaming rights. Which may mean its a whole new look to make us commercially viable. milton road
  • Score: 0

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