Deal time near for host of players

Guly Do Prado

Guly Do Prado

First published in Sport Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Sports Reporter

Talk of a new deal for Saints boss Mauricio Pochettino might be dominating the agenda right now, but his is not the only contract the club will be looking at ahead of the summer.

As always, the future of a number of players are coming up for consideration once the season ends, with some likely to be departing St Mary’s for good.

Guly do Prado is the highest-profile member of the first-team whose contract is due to expire.

The Brazilian, who joined the club in 2010 from Italian side Cesena, has made just seven appearances, all as a substitute, in the Premier League this season.

As his Saints career has unfolded, the 32-year-old has become more and more a peripheral figure, and it looks increasingly likely that this will be a natural point for the two parties to go their separate ways.

Also out of contract this summer are Lee Barnard, who is currently on loan at Southend, the club Saints signed him from in 2010, and Jonathan Forte.

Both players arrived at Saints in League One and will almost certainly be let go, with neither having featured in the Premier League since the club returned to the top-flight.

Barnard scored only his second goal in 25 league and cup matches on Monday night as Southend beat Oxford United 3-0 in League 2.

United States goalkeeper Cody Cropper, 21, is also due out of contract this summer, while decisions will need to be made on some of the younger players outside the first-team.

Of more interest perhaps is to look ahead to next year.

It is then that some of Saints’ more established stars will have deals up for renewal – something the club may wish to address this summer.

Most notably, the contracts of Jack Cork and José Fonte are both set to expire in 2015.

Cork’s future appeared to be in some doubt early in the season, after he lost his place in the team to summer signing Victor Wanyama.

But, after the £12.5m man suffered an injury in December, Cork took his chance, re-establishing himself alongside Morgan Schneiderlin in the defensive midfield area.

The 24-year-old’s performances since his return have been so impressive that he was even name-checked by the England manager, Roy Hodgson, recently.

Like Cork, Fonte’s form this season has also given him hope of an international future, although he has so far been overlooked by Portugal.

The 30-year-old has developed an impressive partnership with fellow centre half Dejan Lovren this term and has certainly put a strong case forward for a new deal.

Promising teens Sam Gallagher and Harrison Reed, who have both made their debuts this season, are also out of contract next summer.

With Pochettino quite fairly pointing out that Saints do not possess a huge squad of players, something he believes is hindering them as the season wears on, it is hard to see the club not wanting to keep hold of players such as those.

Goalkeeper Artur Boruc is another who only has one more year to run beyond this season, and the same is true for Japan international Maya Yoshida.

Another centre half, Jos Hooiveld, is due to be out of contract in 2015 as well.

Striker Billy Sharp will see his deal expire then, although there is a strong chance he will depart on a permanent deal this summer, having been loaned out to former club Doncaster back in January.

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7:24am Wed 26 Mar 14

Rising_Son says...

To those that go, thank you, goodbye and I wish you well. To those that stay, thank you and my wishes for the greatest possible future success.
To those that go, thank you, goodbye and I wish you well. To those that stay, thank you and my wishes for the greatest possible future success. Rising_Son
  • Score: 28

8:21am Wed 26 Mar 14

Sheffieldsaint says...

Saturday's result against Tottingham highlights the need for strength in depth, even if it was our so called better players at fault for the goals. Fonte had a poor game and to my mind doesn't cope well when we are under pressure. What makes the defeat more galling were last nights results. Had we won on Saturday we could have actually believed we could finish sixth. One poor result has now made it almost impossible Mind you I have supported Saints for over 30 years so I ought to have known the outcome. Never a dull moment is there.
Saturday's result against Tottingham highlights the need for strength in depth, even if it was our so called better players at fault for the goals. Fonte had a poor game and to my mind doesn't cope well when we are under pressure. What makes the defeat more galling were last nights results. Had we won on Saturday we could have actually believed we could finish sixth. One poor result has now made it almost impossible Mind you I have supported Saints for over 30 years so I ought to have known the outcome. Never a dull moment is there. Sheffieldsaint
  • Score: 20

8:26am Wed 26 Mar 14

Marchwood Malcom says...

Thanks for everything Guly, but it's time to go.
Thanks for everything Guly, but it's time to go. Marchwood Malcom
  • Score: 0

8:43am Wed 26 Mar 14

JohnItaly says...

Sheffieldsaint wrote:
Saturday's result against Tottingham highlights the need for strength in depth, even if it was our so called better players at fault for the goals. Fonte had a poor game and to my mind doesn't cope well when we are under pressure. What makes the defeat more galling were last nights results. Had we won on Saturday we could have actually believed we could finish sixth. One poor result has now made it almost impossible Mind you I have supported Saints for over 30 years so I ought to have known the outcome. Never a dull moment is there.
At least we Saint's fans can thank Portsmouth FC and their fans for providing some excitement for us as the season draws to a close.
[quote][p][bold]Sheffieldsaint[/bold] wrote: Saturday's result against Tottingham highlights the need for strength in depth, even if it was our so called better players at fault for the goals. Fonte had a poor game and to my mind doesn't cope well when we are under pressure. What makes the defeat more galling were last nights results. Had we won on Saturday we could have actually believed we could finish sixth. One poor result has now made it almost impossible Mind you I have supported Saints for over 30 years so I ought to have known the outcome. Never a dull moment is there.[/p][/quote]At least we Saint's fans can thank Portsmouth FC and their fans for providing some excitement for us as the season draws to a close. JohnItaly
  • Score: 20

8:43am Wed 26 Mar 14

St Mark says...

Sheffieldsaint wrote:
Saturday's result against Tottingham highlights the need for strength in depth, even if it was our so called better players at fault for the goals. Fonte had a poor game and to my mind doesn't cope well when we are under pressure. What makes the defeat more galling were last nights results. Had we won on Saturday we could have actually believed we could finish sixth. One poor result has now made it almost impossible Mind you I have supported Saints for over 30 years so I ought to have known the outcome. Never a dull moment is there.
...and but for a sixth minute of injury time goal at Northampton guess who would have been on the edge of the non-league abyss! Bye bye!
[quote][p][bold]Sheffieldsaint[/bold] wrote: Saturday's result against Tottingham highlights the need for strength in depth, even if it was our so called better players at fault for the goals. Fonte had a poor game and to my mind doesn't cope well when we are under pressure. What makes the defeat more galling were last nights results. Had we won on Saturday we could have actually believed we could finish sixth. One poor result has now made it almost impossible Mind you I have supported Saints for over 30 years so I ought to have known the outcome. Never a dull moment is there.[/p][/quote]...and but for a sixth minute of injury time goal at Northampton guess who would have been on the edge of the non-league abyss! Bye bye! St Mark
  • Score: 15

8:45am Wed 26 Mar 14

jrod11 says...

If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores.
Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.
If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores. Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past. jrod11
  • Score: -34

8:54am Wed 26 Mar 14

justaSaintsfan says...

Saints have gradually improved, season after season, so there is every reason to believe their progress will continue next season and beyond. The Tottenham match was just one in a long season. Saints can't win them all, of course, so I'll be happy for our squad to get more points next season than this season. The younger players are improving all the time and the quality of players bought in will also enhance the squad.

Onward and upward with our Saints!
Saints have gradually improved, season after season, so there is every reason to believe their progress will continue next season and beyond. The Tottenham match was just one in a long season. Saints can't win them all, of course, so I'll be happy for our squad to get more points next season than this season. The younger players are improving all the time and the quality of players bought in will also enhance the squad. Onward and upward with our Saints! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 31

8:56am Wed 26 Mar 14

Clever Dick says...

JohnItaly wrote:
Sheffieldsaint wrote:
Saturday's result against Tottingham highlights the need for strength in depth, even if it was our so called better players at fault for the goals. Fonte had a poor game and to my mind doesn't cope well when we are under pressure. What makes the defeat more galling were last nights results. Had we won on Saturday we could have actually believed we could finish sixth. One poor result has now made it almost impossible Mind you I have supported Saints for over 30 years so I ought to have known the outcome. Never a dull moment is there.
At least we Saint's fans can thank Portsmouth FC and their fans for providing some excitement for us as the season draws to a close.
Well not excitement really. More like amusement.
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sheffieldsaint[/bold] wrote: Saturday's result against Tottingham highlights the need for strength in depth, even if it was our so called better players at fault for the goals. Fonte had a poor game and to my mind doesn't cope well when we are under pressure. What makes the defeat more galling were last nights results. Had we won on Saturday we could have actually believed we could finish sixth. One poor result has now made it almost impossible Mind you I have supported Saints for over 30 years so I ought to have known the outcome. Never a dull moment is there.[/p][/quote]At least we Saint's fans can thank Portsmouth FC and their fans for providing some excitement for us as the season draws to a close.[/p][/quote]Well not excitement really. More like amusement. Clever Dick
  • Score: 18

8:57am Wed 26 Mar 14

Alicesdad says...

I predict a riot.
I predict a riot. Alicesdad
  • Score: -7

8:57am Wed 26 Mar 14

justaSaintsfan says...

P.S. Mauricio Pochettino will stay with Saints! He's not going anywhere else!!!
P.S. Mauricio Pochettino will stay with Saints! He's not going anywhere else!!! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 4

8:58am Wed 26 Mar 14

Puddletown Saint says...

I am sorry but have my negative head on this morning. Contracts are not worth the paper they are written on. Player power is to strong these days. I would love a contract to have a clause that no transfer can occur unless the player is in his last two years. In the case of Luke we would know we have him for a least two more seasons.

As for the likes of Barnard and Forte, cannot really blame them for seeing out their deals - I would.

Interesting to note that three CB's are OOC next season. This area must be addressed in the summer.

Jack, Sam and Harrison must be signed up now. For what it is worth.

COYR
I am sorry but have my negative head on this morning. Contracts are not worth the paper they are written on. Player power is to strong these days. I would love a contract to have a clause that no transfer can occur unless the player is in his last two years. In the case of Luke we would know we have him for a least two more seasons. As for the likes of Barnard and Forte, cannot really blame them for seeing out their deals - I would. Interesting to note that three CB's are OOC next season. This area must be addressed in the summer. Jack, Sam and Harrison must be signed up now. For what it is worth. COYR Puddletown Saint
  • Score: 7

9:15am Wed 26 Mar 14

jrod11 says...

Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers.
Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.
Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately. jrod11
  • Score: 3

9:20am Wed 26 Mar 14

george chivers says...

jrod11 wrote:
If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores.
Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.
I think the big risk with Poch is whether Cortese takes over another club and wants him to be the manager and how he gets on with our new board, if they interfere with what he perceives to be his responsibilities he may decide to go.

I hope he doesn't. Its important with any football club, at any level to maintain continuity with managers if they want to be successful. Clubs that don't never get ongoing success. The same applies to the board. It should be evolution, not revolution every few years, we have just gone through another board room revolution. I hope that is going to develop into stability and not all change again in 2/3 years time.

I also hope we are going to see a clear statement about the club's objectives and ambitions for the next 3/4 seasons soon. I think the fans are owed that for sticking with the club through the bad times, especially if they are to become a cherished part of Team Southampton in its drive to achieve its goals and fulfil its ambitions.

COYR STID
[quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores. Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.[/p][/quote]I think the big risk with Poch is whether Cortese takes over another club and wants him to be the manager and how he gets on with our new board, if they interfere with what he perceives to be his responsibilities he may decide to go. I hope he doesn't. Its important with any football club, at any level to maintain continuity with managers if they want to be successful. Clubs that don't never get ongoing success. The same applies to the board. It should be evolution, not revolution every few years, we have just gone through another board room revolution. I hope that is going to develop into stability and not all change again in 2/3 years time. I also hope we are going to see a clear statement about the club's objectives and ambitions for the next 3/4 seasons soon. I think the fans are owed that for sticking with the club through the bad times, especially if they are to become a cherished part of Team Southampton in its drive to achieve its goals and fulfil its ambitions. COYR STID george chivers
  • Score: 6

9:28am Wed 26 Mar 14

Alicesdad says...

Changing the subject somewhat - I have a number of Bromley supporters in my London office but very slowly a pocket of Eastleigh support is taking a grip. Most of them didn't realise I live near there but they have twigged and its catching on fast.

What a heartwarming thought it is that the mighty Eastleigh could be playing fixtures against the naval scrapyard team next season.
Changing the subject somewhat - I have a number of Bromley supporters in my London office but very slowly a pocket of Eastleigh support is taking a grip. Most of them didn't realise I live near there but they have twigged and its catching on fast. What a heartwarming thought it is that the mighty Eastleigh could be playing fixtures against the naval scrapyard team next season. Alicesdad
  • Score: 21

9:37am Wed 26 Mar 14

Saint TGB says...

JohnItaly wrote:
Sheffieldsaint wrote:
Saturday's result against Tottingham highlights the need for strength in depth, even if it was our so called better players at fault for the goals. Fonte had a poor game and to my mind doesn't cope well when we are under pressure. What makes the defeat more galling were last nights results. Had we won on Saturday we could have actually believed we could finish sixth. One poor result has now made it almost impossible Mind you I have supported Saints for over 30 years so I ought to have known the outcome. Never a dull moment is there.
At least we Saint's fans can thank Portsmouth FC and their fans for providing some excitement for us as the season draws to a close.
Yes, such a shame the Wombles equalised!
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sheffieldsaint[/bold] wrote: Saturday's result against Tottingham highlights the need for strength in depth, even if it was our so called better players at fault for the goals. Fonte had a poor game and to my mind doesn't cope well when we are under pressure. What makes the defeat more galling were last nights results. Had we won on Saturday we could have actually believed we could finish sixth. One poor result has now made it almost impossible Mind you I have supported Saints for over 30 years so I ought to have known the outcome. Never a dull moment is there.[/p][/quote]At least we Saint's fans can thank Portsmouth FC and their fans for providing some excitement for us as the season draws to a close.[/p][/quote]Yes, such a shame the Wombles equalised! Saint TGB
  • Score: 4

9:46am Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

jrod11 wrote:
If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores.
Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.
Are you The Borer in disguise?
[quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores. Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.[/p][/quote]Are you The Borer in disguise? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

9:48am Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

I suspect a visit from the Deadwood Stage is due.
I suspect a visit from the Deadwood Stage is due. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

9:54am Wed 26 Mar 14

Saintsayer II says...

george chivers wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores.
Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.
I think the big risk with Poch is whether Cortese takes over another club and wants him to be the manager and how he gets on with our new board, if they interfere with what he perceives to be his responsibilities he may decide to go.

I hope he doesn't. Its important with any football club, at any level to maintain continuity with managers if they want to be successful. Clubs that don't never get ongoing success. The same applies to the board. It should be evolution, not revolution every few years, we have just gone through another board room revolution. I hope that is going to develop into stability and not all change again in 2/3 years time.

I also hope we are going to see a clear statement about the club's objectives and ambitions for the next 3/4 seasons soon. I think the fans are owed that for sticking with the club through the bad times, especially if they are to become a cherished part of Team Southampton in its drive to achieve its goals and fulfil its ambitions.

COYR STID
The lack of stability at man City and Chelsea has won them nothing of course
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores. Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.[/p][/quote]I think the big risk with Poch is whether Cortese takes over another club and wants him to be the manager and how he gets on with our new board, if they interfere with what he perceives to be his responsibilities he may decide to go. I hope he doesn't. Its important with any football club, at any level to maintain continuity with managers if they want to be successful. Clubs that don't never get ongoing success. The same applies to the board. It should be evolution, not revolution every few years, we have just gone through another board room revolution. I hope that is going to develop into stability and not all change again in 2/3 years time. I also hope we are going to see a clear statement about the club's objectives and ambitions for the next 3/4 seasons soon. I think the fans are owed that for sticking with the club through the bad times, especially if they are to become a cherished part of Team Southampton in its drive to achieve its goals and fulfil its ambitions. COYR STID[/p][/quote]The lack of stability at man City and Chelsea has won them nothing of course Saintsayer II
  • Score: 6

9:58am Wed 26 Mar 14

Jesus_02 says...

jrod11 wrote:
Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.
Lallana has a very strong relationship with the club. I would be suprised if he went easily.
[quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.[/p][/quote]Lallana has a very strong relationship with the club. I would be suprised if he went easily. Jesus_02
  • Score: 12

10:16am Wed 26 Mar 14

george chivers says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
george chivers wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores.
Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.
I think the big risk with Poch is whether Cortese takes over another club and wants him to be the manager and how he gets on with our new board, if they interfere with what he perceives to be his responsibilities he may decide to go.

I hope he doesn't. Its important with any football club, at any level to maintain continuity with managers if they want to be successful. Clubs that don't never get ongoing success. The same applies to the board. It should be evolution, not revolution every few years, we have just gone through another board room revolution. I hope that is going to develop into stability and not all change again in 2/3 years time.

I also hope we are going to see a clear statement about the club's objectives and ambitions for the next 3/4 seasons soon. I think the fans are owed that for sticking with the club through the bad times, especially if they are to become a cherished part of Team Southampton in its drive to achieve its goals and fulfil its ambitions.

COYR STID
The lack of stability at man City and Chelsea has won them nothing of course
I think the board and ownership have been stable, even if the managers have changed. And Chelsea have gone back to their most successful manager in terms of trophies won.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores. Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.[/p][/quote]I think the big risk with Poch is whether Cortese takes over another club and wants him to be the manager and how he gets on with our new board, if they interfere with what he perceives to be his responsibilities he may decide to go. I hope he doesn't. Its important with any football club, at any level to maintain continuity with managers if they want to be successful. Clubs that don't never get ongoing success. The same applies to the board. It should be evolution, not revolution every few years, we have just gone through another board room revolution. I hope that is going to develop into stability and not all change again in 2/3 years time. I also hope we are going to see a clear statement about the club's objectives and ambitions for the next 3/4 seasons soon. I think the fans are owed that for sticking with the club through the bad times, especially if they are to become a cherished part of Team Southampton in its drive to achieve its goals and fulfil its ambitions. COYR STID[/p][/quote]The lack of stability at man City and Chelsea has won them nothing of course[/p][/quote]I think the board and ownership have been stable, even if the managers have changed. And Chelsea have gone back to their most successful manager in terms of trophies won. george chivers
  • Score: 6

10:19am Wed 26 Mar 14

Rising_Son says...

jrod11 wrote:
If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores.
Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.
You seem to be very sure about what MP is going to do? What insider information have you got?
[quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores. Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.[/p][/quote]You seem to be very sure about what MP is going to do? What insider information have you got? Rising_Son
  • Score: -4

10:24am Wed 26 Mar 14

george chivers says...

george chivers wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
george chivers wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores.
Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.
I think the big risk with Poch is whether Cortese takes over another club and wants him to be the manager and how he gets on with our new board, if they interfere with what he perceives to be his responsibilities he may decide to go.

I hope he doesn't. Its important with any football club, at any level to maintain continuity with managers if they want to be successful. Clubs that don't never get ongoing success. The same applies to the board. It should be evolution, not revolution every few years, we have just gone through another board room revolution. I hope that is going to develop into stability and not all change again in 2/3 years time.

I also hope we are going to see a clear statement about the club's objectives and ambitions for the next 3/4 seasons soon. I think the fans are owed that for sticking with the club through the bad times, especially if they are to become a cherished part of Team Southampton in its drive to achieve its goals and fulfil its ambitions.

COYR STID
The lack of stability at man City and Chelsea has won them nothing of course
I think the board and ownership have been stable, even if the managers have changed. And Chelsea have gone back to their most successful manager in terms of trophies won.
Where as the continuity of CEO, team management and coaching staff at Man U has gone through a revolution with more to come with the playing staff in the summer. They have a huge task to get back to previous levels of success.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores. Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.[/p][/quote]I think the big risk with Poch is whether Cortese takes over another club and wants him to be the manager and how he gets on with our new board, if they interfere with what he perceives to be his responsibilities he may decide to go. I hope he doesn't. Its important with any football club, at any level to maintain continuity with managers if they want to be successful. Clubs that don't never get ongoing success. The same applies to the board. It should be evolution, not revolution every few years, we have just gone through another board room revolution. I hope that is going to develop into stability and not all change again in 2/3 years time. I also hope we are going to see a clear statement about the club's objectives and ambitions for the next 3/4 seasons soon. I think the fans are owed that for sticking with the club through the bad times, especially if they are to become a cherished part of Team Southampton in its drive to achieve its goals and fulfil its ambitions. COYR STID[/p][/quote]The lack of stability at man City and Chelsea has won them nothing of course[/p][/quote]I think the board and ownership have been stable, even if the managers have changed. And Chelsea have gone back to their most successful manager in terms of trophies won.[/p][/quote]Where as the continuity of CEO, team management and coaching staff at Man U has gone through a revolution with more to come with the playing staff in the summer. They have a huge task to get back to previous levels of success. george chivers
  • Score: 3

10:40am Wed 26 Mar 14

Sainty saint saint says...

My only real concern is that Seedorf's days at Milan might be numbered. If that's the case and Milan decide to get NC in as chairman (which was a consistent rumour when he was with us) then I could imagine NC luring Poch away to Italy.

Other than that I really can't see Poch going to another UK club unless it has a great academy/philosophy of bringing youth through, and Man City are the only ones making big noises about that (and seem happy with Pellegrini at the moment).

Maybe Arsenal in a couple of years, but can't see Wenger going before that. Chelsea has Mourinho, who's going nowhere, Man Utd are a poisoned challis, and Spurs really aren't an attractive proposition for a forward thinking manager like Poch... what other teams are there?!
My only real concern is that Seedorf's days at Milan might be numbered. If that's the case and Milan decide to get NC in as chairman (which was a consistent rumour when he was with us) then I could imagine NC luring Poch away to Italy. Other than that I really can't see Poch going to another UK club unless it has a great academy/philosophy of bringing youth through, and Man City are the only ones making big noises about that (and seem happy with Pellegrini at the moment). Maybe Arsenal in a couple of years, but can't see Wenger going before that. Chelsea has Mourinho, who's going nowhere, Man Utd are a poisoned challis, and Spurs really aren't an attractive proposition for a forward thinking manager like Poch... what other teams are there?! Sainty saint saint
  • Score: 12

10:45am Wed 26 Mar 14

mbetts says...

We need to strengthen our squad significantly before we can think about Europa League football, this summer will be interesting, if we make a couple or marquee signings hopefully it'll convince MoPo and our exciting young players that this is the place to be for the next few seasons.
We need to strengthen our squad significantly before we can think about Europa League football, this summer will be interesting, if we make a couple or marquee signings hopefully it'll convince MoPo and our exciting young players that this is the place to be for the next few seasons. mbetts
  • Score: 9

11:05am Wed 26 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

george chivers wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
george chivers wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores.
Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.
I think the big risk with Poch is whether Cortese takes over another club and wants him to be the manager and how he gets on with our new board, if they interfere with what he perceives to be his responsibilities he may decide to go.

I hope he doesn't. Its important with any football club, at any level to maintain continuity with managers if they want to be successful. Clubs that don't never get ongoing success. The same applies to the board. It should be evolution, not revolution every few years, we have just gone through another board room revolution. I hope that is going to develop into stability and not all change again in 2/3 years time.

I also hope we are going to see a clear statement about the club's objectives and ambitions for the next 3/4 seasons soon. I think the fans are owed that for sticking with the club through the bad times, especially if they are to become a cherished part of Team Southampton in its drive to achieve its goals and fulfil its ambitions.

COYR STID
The lack of stability at man City and Chelsea has won them nothing of course
I think the board and ownership have been stable, even if the managers have changed. And Chelsea have gone back to their most successful manager in terms of trophies won.
arsenil and everton had continuity at board level and managerial level for 10+ years, until moyes left everton for manure (where he will take the champions to a 5th,6th 7th finish this year. which is all he managed at everton for years).
arsenil haven't won anything for nearly 9 years and evertons last trophy was in 1995!
arsenil used to win the league, now they celebrate a 4th place finish and everton are happy to finish 5th.
continuity doesn't always work, arsenil have become stale, wenger has too much control over the club and they are scared to replace him. everton look a lot more competitive this season under a new manager.
continuity doesn't always work, if we had kept Adkins we might not be in a comfortable top ten position, we might be fighting relegation, who knows? I liked our nige and was worried when he left but we look a lot better this season under MP.
I hope and want MP to stay and continue the great work he started, I think he is the man to take us to bigger things.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores. Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.[/p][/quote]I think the big risk with Poch is whether Cortese takes over another club and wants him to be the manager and how he gets on with our new board, if they interfere with what he perceives to be his responsibilities he may decide to go. I hope he doesn't. Its important with any football club, at any level to maintain continuity with managers if they want to be successful. Clubs that don't never get ongoing success. The same applies to the board. It should be evolution, not revolution every few years, we have just gone through another board room revolution. I hope that is going to develop into stability and not all change again in 2/3 years time. I also hope we are going to see a clear statement about the club's objectives and ambitions for the next 3/4 seasons soon. I think the fans are owed that for sticking with the club through the bad times, especially if they are to become a cherished part of Team Southampton in its drive to achieve its goals and fulfil its ambitions. COYR STID[/p][/quote]The lack of stability at man City and Chelsea has won them nothing of course[/p][/quote]I think the board and ownership have been stable, even if the managers have changed. And Chelsea have gone back to their most successful manager in terms of trophies won.[/p][/quote]arsenil and everton had continuity at board level and managerial level for 10+ years, until moyes left everton for manure (where he will take the champions to a 5th,6th 7th finish this year. which is all he managed at everton for years). arsenil haven't won anything for nearly 9 years and evertons last trophy was in 1995! arsenil used to win the league, now they celebrate a 4th place finish and everton are happy to finish 5th. continuity doesn't always work, arsenil have become stale, wenger has too much control over the club and they are scared to replace him. everton look a lot more competitive this season under a new manager. continuity doesn't always work, if we had kept Adkins we might not be in a comfortable top ten position, we might be fighting relegation, who knows? I liked our nige and was worried when he left but we look a lot better this season under MP. I hope and want MP to stay and continue the great work he started, I think he is the man to take us to bigger things. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 5

11:28am Wed 26 Mar 14

Mister E says...

Hope I'm wrong, but thought I detected a couple of barbed comments, here and elsewhere, towards MoPo. So:
Using an extreme to illustrate a point: if a club such as Real Madrid or the like were to approach MoPo, I would be (pleasantly) surprised, and grateful, if he stayed. Simplistic point maybe as other variables come into play such as he may think he is not yet ready for such a step up. But the principle still holds true. Same for our best players.
I hope he does stay, and our best players too, as they see their ambition being matched by the club!
The crucial word is ambition. But, it's a two sided coin. We want our players, manager etc to have it. Nicola Cortese had it and articulated to prospective signings. We hope our new board/leadership shows similar ambition to match theirs. The flip side would be our players and manager having it, but if the board don't have it to match theirs then surely they would leave sooner or later!
Who would blame them? You couldn't have one with and one without!
If MoPo were to leave I would be bitterly disappointed, but I would be grateful and thank him as well as wishing him every success - he's earned that!
Having said all that, I have detected nothing to suggest I should feel pessimistic! Sure, there have been some changes, but let them bed in and in the summer we will see, and can judge, the ambition of the board.
Onwards and upwards!
Hope I'm wrong, but thought I detected a couple of barbed comments, here and elsewhere, towards MoPo. So: Using an extreme to illustrate a point: if a club such as Real Madrid or the like were to approach MoPo, I would be (pleasantly) surprised, and grateful, if he stayed. Simplistic point maybe as other variables come into play such as he may think he is not yet ready for such a step up. But the principle still holds true. Same for our best players. I hope he does stay, and our best players too, as they see their ambition being matched by the club! The crucial word is ambition. But, it's a two sided coin. We want our players, manager etc to have it. Nicola Cortese had it and articulated to prospective signings. We hope our new board/leadership shows similar ambition to match theirs. The flip side would be our players and manager having it, but if the board don't have it to match theirs then surely they would leave sooner or later! Who would blame them? You couldn't have one with and one without! If MoPo were to leave I would be bitterly disappointed, but I would be grateful and thank him as well as wishing him every success - he's earned that! Having said all that, I have detected nothing to suggest I should feel pessimistic! Sure, there have been some changes, but let them bed in and in the summer we will see, and can judge, the ambition of the board. Onwards and upwards! Mister E
  • Score: 1

12:04pm Wed 26 Mar 14

DisplacedFan says...

Clever Dick wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
Sheffieldsaint wrote:
Saturday's result against Tottingham highlights the need for strength in depth, even if it was our so called better players at fault for the goals. Fonte had a poor game and to my mind doesn't cope well when we are under pressure. What makes the defeat more galling were last nights results. Had we won on Saturday we could have actually believed we could finish sixth. One poor result has now made it almost impossible Mind you I have supported Saints for over 30 years so I ought to have known the outcome. Never a dull moment is there.
At least we Saint's fans can thank Portsmouth FC and their fans for providing some excitement for us as the season draws to a close.
Well not excitement really. More like amusement.
Is that excitement or excrement?
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sheffieldsaint[/bold] wrote: Saturday's result against Tottingham highlights the need for strength in depth, even if it was our so called better players at fault for the goals. Fonte had a poor game and to my mind doesn't cope well when we are under pressure. What makes the defeat more galling were last nights results. Had we won on Saturday we could have actually believed we could finish sixth. One poor result has now made it almost impossible Mind you I have supported Saints for over 30 years so I ought to have known the outcome. Never a dull moment is there.[/p][/quote]At least we Saint's fans can thank Portsmouth FC and their fans for providing some excitement for us as the season draws to a close.[/p][/quote]Well not excitement really. More like amusement.[/p][/quote]Is that excitement or excrement? DisplacedFan
  • Score: 0

12:35pm Wed 26 Mar 14

killared says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
george chivers wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores.
Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.
I think the big risk with Poch is whether Cortese takes over another club and wants him to be the manager and how he gets on with our new board, if they interfere with what he perceives to be his responsibilities he may decide to go.

I hope he doesn't. Its important with any football club, at any level to maintain continuity with managers if they want to be successful. Clubs that don't never get ongoing success. The same applies to the board. It should be evolution, not revolution every few years, we have just gone through another board room revolution. I hope that is going to develop into stability and not all change again in 2/3 years time.

I also hope we are going to see a clear statement about the club's objectives and ambitions for the next 3/4 seasons soon. I think the fans are owed that for sticking with the club through the bad times, especially if they are to become a cherished part of Team Southampton in its drive to achieve its goals and fulfil its ambitions.

COYR STID
The lack of stability at man City and Chelsea has won them nothing of course
I think the board and ownership have been stable, even if the managers have changed. And Chelsea have gone back to their most successful manager in terms of trophies won.
arsenil and everton had continuity at board level and managerial level for 10+ years, until moyes left everton for manure (where he will take the champions to a 5th,6th 7th finish this year. which is all he managed at everton for years).
arsenil haven't won anything for nearly 9 years and evertons last trophy was in 1995!
arsenil used to win the league, now they celebrate a 4th place finish and everton are happy to finish 5th.
continuity doesn't always work, arsenil have become stale, wenger has too much control over the club and they are scared to replace him. everton look a lot more competitive this season under a new manager.
continuity doesn't always work, if we had kept Adkins we might not be in a comfortable top ten position, we might be fighting relegation, who knows? I liked our nige and was worried when he left but we look a lot better this season under MP.
I hope and want MP to stay and continue the great work he started, I think he is the man to take us to bigger things.
You wrong about Arsenal they had a Stadium to repay" fully paid now " that's why they haven't win anything for 9 years and didn't spend the money on players and tried to develop young or buy young players. Everton have no money period they only rely on loan yes Moyes did a good job there but without money Everton under him finished 6th,7th,8th and that's it. Saying Wenger have a lot of power it's a bit crazy the club is run by a Yank who doesn't want to sale his share to a wealthy Russian that's why they stale 1
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores. Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.[/p][/quote]I think the big risk with Poch is whether Cortese takes over another club and wants him to be the manager and how he gets on with our new board, if they interfere with what he perceives to be his responsibilities he may decide to go. I hope he doesn't. Its important with any football club, at any level to maintain continuity with managers if they want to be successful. Clubs that don't never get ongoing success. The same applies to the board. It should be evolution, not revolution every few years, we have just gone through another board room revolution. I hope that is going to develop into stability and not all change again in 2/3 years time. I also hope we are going to see a clear statement about the club's objectives and ambitions for the next 3/4 seasons soon. I think the fans are owed that for sticking with the club through the bad times, especially if they are to become a cherished part of Team Southampton in its drive to achieve its goals and fulfil its ambitions. COYR STID[/p][/quote]The lack of stability at man City and Chelsea has won them nothing of course[/p][/quote]I think the board and ownership have been stable, even if the managers have changed. And Chelsea have gone back to their most successful manager in terms of trophies won.[/p][/quote]arsenil and everton had continuity at board level and managerial level for 10+ years, until moyes left everton for manure (where he will take the champions to a 5th,6th 7th finish this year. which is all he managed at everton for years). arsenil haven't won anything for nearly 9 years and evertons last trophy was in 1995! arsenil used to win the league, now they celebrate a 4th place finish and everton are happy to finish 5th. continuity doesn't always work, arsenil have become stale, wenger has too much control over the club and they are scared to replace him. everton look a lot more competitive this season under a new manager. continuity doesn't always work, if we had kept Adkins we might not be in a comfortable top ten position, we might be fighting relegation, who knows? I liked our nige and was worried when he left but we look a lot better this season under MP. I hope and want MP to stay and continue the great work he started, I think he is the man to take us to bigger things.[/p][/quote]You wrong about Arsenal they had a Stadium to repay" fully paid now " that's why they haven't win anything for 9 years and didn't spend the money on players and tried to develop young or buy young players. Everton have no money period they only rely on loan yes Moyes did a good job there but without money Everton under him finished 6th,7th,8th and that's it. Saying Wenger have a lot of power it's a bit crazy the club is run by a Yank who doesn't want to sale his share to a wealthy Russian that's why they stale 1 killared
  • Score: 1

12:38pm Wed 26 Mar 14

SaintJD says...

Puddletown Saint wrote:
I am sorry but have my negative head on this morning. Contracts are not worth the paper they are written on. Player power is to strong these days. I would love a contract to have a clause that no transfer can occur unless the player is in his last two years. In the case of Luke we would know we have him for a least two more seasons.

As for the likes of Barnard and Forte, cannot really blame them for seeing out their deals - I would.

Interesting to note that three CB's are OOC next season. This area must be addressed in the summer.

Jack, Sam and Harrison must be signed up now. For what it is worth.

COYR
If contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on why are Lee Barnard and Forte still on our books?

You also have to question why, when I think it is clear they weren't going to be even Championship standard, did we have them on such long deals in the first place?

When you consider how much of a hard bargainer NC was supposed to be and his confidence in his plan of when we would get back to the Prem it seems bizarre that we've had so much deadwood hanging around the place with no likelihood to play and no clubs, even in League 2, willing to sign them up permanently.

Look at Kelvin - was it a new five year deal he signed not that long ago? All very nice and good to reward him and have continuity, but with Gazza not seemingly having the full trust of the manager it's also a questionable decision.
[quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: I am sorry but have my negative head on this morning. Contracts are not worth the paper they are written on. Player power is to strong these days. I would love a contract to have a clause that no transfer can occur unless the player is in his last two years. In the case of Luke we would know we have him for a least two more seasons. As for the likes of Barnard and Forte, cannot really blame them for seeing out their deals - I would. Interesting to note that three CB's are OOC next season. This area must be addressed in the summer. Jack, Sam and Harrison must be signed up now. For what it is worth. COYR[/p][/quote]If contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on why are Lee Barnard and Forte still on our books? You also have to question why, when I think it is clear they weren't going to be even Championship standard, did we have them on such long deals in the first place? When you consider how much of a hard bargainer NC was supposed to be and his confidence in his plan of when we would get back to the Prem it seems bizarre that we've had so much deadwood hanging around the place with no likelihood to play and no clubs, even in League 2, willing to sign them up permanently. Look at Kelvin - was it a new five year deal he signed not that long ago? All very nice and good to reward him and have continuity, but with Gazza not seemingly having the full trust of the manager it's also a questionable decision. SaintJD
  • Score: 4

12:38pm Wed 26 Mar 14

killared says...

killared wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
george chivers wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores.
Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.
I think the big risk with Poch is whether Cortese takes over another club and wants him to be the manager and how he gets on with our new board, if they interfere with what he perceives to be his responsibilities he may decide to go.

I hope he doesn't. Its important with any football club, at any level to maintain continuity with managers if they want to be successful. Clubs that don't never get ongoing success. The same applies to the board. It should be evolution, not revolution every few years, we have just gone through another board room revolution. I hope that is going to develop into stability and not all change again in 2/3 years time.

I also hope we are going to see a clear statement about the club's objectives and ambitions for the next 3/4 seasons soon. I think the fans are owed that for sticking with the club through the bad times, especially if they are to become a cherished part of Team Southampton in its drive to achieve its goals and fulfil its ambitions.

COYR STID
The lack of stability at man City and Chelsea has won them nothing of course
I think the board and ownership have been stable, even if the managers have changed. And Chelsea have gone back to their most successful manager in terms of trophies won.
arsenil and everton had continuity at board level and managerial level for 10+ years, until moyes left everton for manure (where he will take the champions to a 5th,6th 7th finish this year. which is all he managed at everton for years).
arsenil haven't won anything for nearly 9 years and evertons last trophy was in 1995!
arsenil used to win the league, now they celebrate a 4th place finish and everton are happy to finish 5th.
continuity doesn't always work, arsenil have become stale, wenger has too much control over the club and they are scared to replace him. everton look a lot more competitive this season under a new manager.
continuity doesn't always work, if we had kept Adkins we might not be in a comfortable top ten position, we might be fighting relegation, who knows? I liked our nige and was worried when he left but we look a lot better this season under MP.
I hope and want MP to stay and continue the great work he started, I think he is the man to take us to bigger things.
You wrong about Arsenal they had a Stadium to repay" fully paid now " that's why they haven't win anything for 9 years and didn't spend the money on players and tried to develop young or buy young players. Everton have no money period they only rely on loan yes Moyes did a good job there but without money Everton under him finished 6th,7th,8th and that's it. Saying Wenger have a lot of power it's a bit crazy the club is run by a Yank who doesn't want to sale his share to a wealthy Russian that's why they stale 1
The reason why I defend Arsenal it's because we have the same philosophy. We learn our lesson from the past and now it's our time to shine we are the biggest club in the South Coast and after it's Eastleigh FC !
[quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores. Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.[/p][/quote]I think the big risk with Poch is whether Cortese takes over another club and wants him to be the manager and how he gets on with our new board, if they interfere with what he perceives to be his responsibilities he may decide to go. I hope he doesn't. Its important with any football club, at any level to maintain continuity with managers if they want to be successful. Clubs that don't never get ongoing success. The same applies to the board. It should be evolution, not revolution every few years, we have just gone through another board room revolution. I hope that is going to develop into stability and not all change again in 2/3 years time. I also hope we are going to see a clear statement about the club's objectives and ambitions for the next 3/4 seasons soon. I think the fans are owed that for sticking with the club through the bad times, especially if they are to become a cherished part of Team Southampton in its drive to achieve its goals and fulfil its ambitions. COYR STID[/p][/quote]The lack of stability at man City and Chelsea has won them nothing of course[/p][/quote]I think the board and ownership have been stable, even if the managers have changed. And Chelsea have gone back to their most successful manager in terms of trophies won.[/p][/quote]arsenil and everton had continuity at board level and managerial level for 10+ years, until moyes left everton for manure (where he will take the champions to a 5th,6th 7th finish this year. which is all he managed at everton for years). arsenil haven't won anything for nearly 9 years and evertons last trophy was in 1995! arsenil used to win the league, now they celebrate a 4th place finish and everton are happy to finish 5th. continuity doesn't always work, arsenil have become stale, wenger has too much control over the club and they are scared to replace him. everton look a lot more competitive this season under a new manager. continuity doesn't always work, if we had kept Adkins we might not be in a comfortable top ten position, we might be fighting relegation, who knows? I liked our nige and was worried when he left but we look a lot better this season under MP. I hope and want MP to stay and continue the great work he started, I think he is the man to take us to bigger things.[/p][/quote]You wrong about Arsenal they had a Stadium to repay" fully paid now " that's why they haven't win anything for 9 years and didn't spend the money on players and tried to develop young or buy young players. Everton have no money period they only rely on loan yes Moyes did a good job there but without money Everton under him finished 6th,7th,8th and that's it. Saying Wenger have a lot of power it's a bit crazy the club is run by a Yank who doesn't want to sale his share to a wealthy Russian that's why they stale 1[/p][/quote]The reason why I defend Arsenal it's because we have the same philosophy. We learn our lesson from the past and now it's our time to shine we are the biggest club in the South Coast and after it's Eastleigh FC ! killared
  • Score: 0

12:49pm Wed 26 Mar 14

SaintJD says...

killared wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
george chivers wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores.
Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.
I think the big risk with Poch is whether Cortese takes over another club and wants him to be the manager and how he gets on with our new board, if they interfere with what he perceives to be his responsibilities he may decide to go.

I hope he doesn't. Its important with any football club, at any level to maintain continuity with managers if they want to be successful. Clubs that don't never get ongoing success. The same applies to the board. It should be evolution, not revolution every few years, we have just gone through another board room revolution. I hope that is going to develop into stability and not all change again in 2/3 years time.

I also hope we are going to see a clear statement about the club's objectives and ambitions for the next 3/4 seasons soon. I think the fans are owed that for sticking with the club through the bad times, especially if they are to become a cherished part of Team Southampton in its drive to achieve its goals and fulfil its ambitions.

COYR STID
The lack of stability at man City and Chelsea has won them nothing of course
I think the board and ownership have been stable, even if the managers have changed. And Chelsea have gone back to their most successful manager in terms of trophies won.
arsenil and everton had continuity at board level and managerial level for 10+ years, until moyes left everton for manure (where he will take the champions to a 5th,6th 7th finish this year. which is all he managed at everton for years).
arsenil haven't won anything for nearly 9 years and evertons last trophy was in 1995!
arsenil used to win the league, now they celebrate a 4th place finish and everton are happy to finish 5th.
continuity doesn't always work, arsenil have become stale, wenger has too much control over the club and they are scared to replace him. everton look a lot more competitive this season under a new manager.
continuity doesn't always work, if we had kept Adkins we might not be in a comfortable top ten position, we might be fighting relegation, who knows? I liked our nige and was worried when he left but we look a lot better this season under MP.
I hope and want MP to stay and continue the great work he started, I think he is the man to take us to bigger things.
You wrong about Arsenal they had a Stadium to repay" fully paid now " that's why they haven't win anything for 9 years and didn't spend the money on players and tried to develop young or buy young players. Everton have no money period they only rely on loan yes Moyes did a good job there but without money Everton under him finished 6th,7th,8th and that's it. Saying Wenger have a lot of power it's a bit crazy the club is run by a Yank who doesn't want to sale his share to a wealthy Russian that's why they stale 1
Saintsayer, sorry, but you can't use Man City and Chelsea as examples of clubs winning by chopping and changing - what you fail to mention is that they have the stability of huge, gigantic wads of cash that allow them to spray money around on the likes of Jack Rodwell, Santa Cruz, Jo, Crespo, Shevchenko, etc, sell Matic and buy him back for huge wads of cash, let Lukaku go out on loan and complain they don't have any strikers.

And, if you need proof of that, the most successful Chelsea managers have been guys that the fans and pundits still regard as pretty clueless: Benitez, Grant (champions league final) and Di Matteo, who can't seem to get a job.

They have the luxury of not needing continuity or even employing a decent manager to win, we don't.
[quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: If a club comes in that offers Poch European football for next season he will leave these shores. Lets see if he is as loyal as some fans think he is or if he has big ambitions like he has said in the past.[/p][/quote]I think the big risk with Poch is whether Cortese takes over another club and wants him to be the manager and how he gets on with our new board, if they interfere with what he perceives to be his responsibilities he may decide to go. I hope he doesn't. Its important with any football club, at any level to maintain continuity with managers if they want to be successful. Clubs that don't never get ongoing success. The same applies to the board. It should be evolution, not revolution every few years, we have just gone through another board room revolution. I hope that is going to develop into stability and not all change again in 2/3 years time. I also hope we are going to see a clear statement about the club's objectives and ambitions for the next 3/4 seasons soon. I think the fans are owed that for sticking with the club through the bad times, especially if they are to become a cherished part of Team Southampton in its drive to achieve its goals and fulfil its ambitions. COYR STID[/p][/quote]The lack of stability at man City and Chelsea has won them nothing of course[/p][/quote]I think the board and ownership have been stable, even if the managers have changed. And Chelsea have gone back to their most successful manager in terms of trophies won.[/p][/quote]arsenil and everton had continuity at board level and managerial level for 10+ years, until moyes left everton for manure (where he will take the champions to a 5th,6th 7th finish this year. which is all he managed at everton for years). arsenil haven't won anything for nearly 9 years and evertons last trophy was in 1995! arsenil used to win the league, now they celebrate a 4th place finish and everton are happy to finish 5th. continuity doesn't always work, arsenil have become stale, wenger has too much control over the club and they are scared to replace him. everton look a lot more competitive this season under a new manager. continuity doesn't always work, if we had kept Adkins we might not be in a comfortable top ten position, we might be fighting relegation, who knows? I liked our nige and was worried when he left but we look a lot better this season under MP. I hope and want MP to stay and continue the great work he started, I think he is the man to take us to bigger things.[/p][/quote]You wrong about Arsenal they had a Stadium to repay" fully paid now " that's why they haven't win anything for 9 years and didn't spend the money on players and tried to develop young or buy young players. Everton have no money period they only rely on loan yes Moyes did a good job there but without money Everton under him finished 6th,7th,8th and that's it. Saying Wenger have a lot of power it's a bit crazy the club is run by a Yank who doesn't want to sale his share to a wealthy Russian that's why they stale 1[/p][/quote]Saintsayer, sorry, but you can't use Man City and Chelsea as examples of clubs winning by chopping and changing - what you fail to mention is that they have the stability of huge, gigantic wads of cash that allow them to spray money around on the likes of Jack Rodwell, Santa Cruz, Jo, Crespo, Shevchenko, etc, sell Matic and buy him back for huge wads of cash, let Lukaku go out on loan and complain they don't have any strikers. And, if you need proof of that, the most successful Chelsea managers have been guys that the fans and pundits still regard as pretty clueless: Benitez, Grant (champions league final) and Di Matteo, who can't seem to get a job. They have the luxury of not needing continuity or even employing a decent manager to win, we don't. SaintJD
  • Score: 3

1:34pm Wed 26 Mar 14

SaintJD says...

OK, assuming we keep MP and all our top players in the summer, I think we need to let these out of contract players go, extend Cork's deal and ship out Gaston, Hoover, Fox, and Osvaldo (can't remember if Lee or Mayuka are still on our books but if so them as well).

That frees up space, wages and funds for everything else we need to do to aim top five next season.

At a minimum, we then need to recruit a top class centre back, top class forward and top class keeper, plus solid cover at left back and another quality centre back option should either of the first choice pairing get injured.

An extra quality attacking midfielder with pace would also be nice.

So, essentially we are just replacing Gaston, Hoover, Fox, Osvaldo and possibly Maya and probably loaning out Gazza so the new guy can be first choice with Artur in reserve.

Then you have a top class squad capable of top five and European football.

Even three more top class players and left back cover will be enough in my opinion and the funds from Osvaldo and Gaston should cover that easily.

I base that on the fact that only three or four Spurs players would, in my opinion, make our XI, yet they are top five material even playing as poorly as they have this season (Fonte for Vertongen, Lloris for Boruc and Eriksen for Davis, although arguably if you swap out Davis for Spider you're there anyway).

So we are very, very close to a top five quality team IMO, on the understanding that we need three more top players and better cover on the bench for cb, lb and upfront.

Personally I don't think their striking options are any better than ours, but I think it's clear that both sides would feel the need to strengthen in this position.
OK, assuming we keep MP and all our top players in the summer, I think we need to let these out of contract players go, extend Cork's deal and ship out Gaston, Hoover, Fox, and Osvaldo (can't remember if Lee or Mayuka are still on our books but if so them as well). That frees up space, wages and funds for everything else we need to do to aim top five next season. At a minimum, we then need to recruit a top class centre back, top class forward and top class keeper, plus solid cover at left back and another quality centre back option should either of the first choice pairing get injured. An extra quality attacking midfielder with pace would also be nice. So, essentially we are just replacing Gaston, Hoover, Fox, Osvaldo and possibly Maya and probably loaning out Gazza so the new guy can be first choice with Artur in reserve. Then you have a top class squad capable of top five and European football. Even three more top class players and left back cover will be enough in my opinion and the funds from Osvaldo and Gaston should cover that easily. I base that on the fact that only three or four Spurs players would, in my opinion, make our XI, yet they are top five material even playing as poorly as they have this season (Fonte for Vertongen, Lloris for Boruc and Eriksen for Davis, although arguably if you swap out Davis for Spider you're there anyway). So we are very, very close to a top five quality team IMO, on the understanding that we need three more top players and better cover on the bench for cb, lb and upfront. Personally I don't think their striking options are any better than ours, but I think it's clear that both sides would feel the need to strengthen in this position. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

2:12pm Wed 26 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

killared,
arsenil have paid for a stadium but they have also spent many millions on players in that time as well. theo and ox were both brought whilst they were tying to fund or pay for the stadium. thats the worst excuse for wengers failiure, he had no money to spend on players because of the stadium. wengers net spend over his years in control is -£17.5mill and that's despite selling their best players for huge profits nearly every year. who has overall control of their transfer policy? wenger. he has ultimate control over transfers and team policies, to a point where OX was only put on as a sub with less than 20mins left in games because if he played more than 20mins arsenil had to pay saints £10k. do you think its right for a manager to know every minute detail of players contract to the extent that it affects his choice of subs? that along with everything else is too much power for a manager, that's why the board are worried about losing him and why they are willing to pay £8mill for a three year deal! lose wenger and arsenil will have to completely restructure their managerial positions.
i don't want to bore everyone about arsenil but killared is a fan and has tried to defend arsenil and their failure to win anything for nearly 9 years. which for me is down to a manager who isn't up to the job anymore. im not saying i want this to happen but, put MP into the arsenil hot seat and you would see an instant change in their methods and results.

as for everton and moyes, everyone seemed to think he did wonders to keep everton near the top of the league every year without any money. he did have money and has spent a fair bit on useless players. everton funded this through loans and that's why they are struggling now and have had to sell big name players, i doubt Baines will stay long!
i don't want saints to copy evertons model and be happy to sit just behind the big boys every year without really competing for anything. our big difference, as everyone knows, is the academy and our ability to produce the £10-£30mill players that other teams have to buy. we may sell a player or two but hopefully we can keep the majority together along with MP and start to compete with the big boys by showing that you don't have to spend the GDP of a small country on players, you can produce your own and give them a route through to the first team and add a few imports to bolster the squad.
killared, arsenil have paid for a stadium but they have also spent many millions on players in that time as well. theo and ox were both brought whilst they were tying to fund or pay for the stadium. thats the worst excuse for wengers failiure, he had no money to spend on players because of the stadium. wengers net spend over his years in control is -£17.5mill and that's despite selling their best players for huge profits nearly every year. who has overall control of their transfer policy? wenger. he has ultimate control over transfers and team policies, to a point where OX was only put on as a sub with less than 20mins left in games because if he played more than 20mins arsenil had to pay saints £10k. do you think its right for a manager to know every minute detail of players contract to the extent that it affects his choice of subs? that along with everything else is too much power for a manager, that's why the board are worried about losing him and why they are willing to pay £8mill for a three year deal! lose wenger and arsenil will have to completely restructure their managerial positions. i don't want to bore everyone about arsenil but killared is a fan and has tried to defend arsenil and their failure to win anything for nearly 9 years. which for me is down to a manager who isn't up to the job anymore. im not saying i want this to happen but, put MP into the arsenil hot seat and you would see an instant change in their methods and results. as for everton and moyes, everyone seemed to think he did wonders to keep everton near the top of the league every year without any money. he did have money and has spent a fair bit on useless players. everton funded this through loans and that's why they are struggling now and have had to sell big name players, i doubt Baines will stay long! i don't want saints to copy evertons model and be happy to sit just behind the big boys every year without really competing for anything. our big difference, as everyone knows, is the academy and our ability to produce the £10-£30mill players that other teams have to buy. we may sell a player or two but hopefully we can keep the majority together along with MP and start to compete with the big boys by showing that you don't have to spend the GDP of a small country on players, you can produce your own and give them a route through to the first team and add a few imports to bolster the squad. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 1

2:38pm Wed 26 Mar 14

shane76 says...

jrod11 wrote:
Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.
How do you explain Adam Lallana then ?
[quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.[/p][/quote]How do you explain Adam Lallana then ? shane76
  • Score: -1

3:47pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Shrewdsaint says...

A bit off subject but there is a long, interesting piece about Claus Lundekvam on the Guardian website. A very loyal legend.
A bit off subject but there is a long, interesting piece about Claus Lundekvam on the Guardian website. A very loyal legend. Shrewdsaint
  • Score: 3

4:23pm Wed 26 Mar 14

jrod11 says...

shane76 wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.
How do you explain Adam Lallana then ?
As an exception do you think as my post says ?
[quote][p][bold]shane76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.[/p][/quote]How do you explain Adam Lallana then ?[/p][/quote]As an exception do you think as my post says ? jrod11
  • Score: 2

4:34pm Wed 26 Mar 14

warrens 76 says...

Mental strength not talent lost us the Spurs game…the need for a couple of new places is more about mental strength and discipline than talent, we have talent in spades.
Mental strength not talent lost us the Spurs game…the need for a couple of new places is more about mental strength and discipline than talent, we have talent in spades. warrens 76
  • Score: 2

4:47pm Wed 26 Mar 14

ghk230473 says...

Summer transfer window is going to be testing. We have reached a point where our players are being coveted by the big guns and quite rightly so. The board have to weigh up the risks and only they know if we have the money to compete with the big boys. To keep the likes of shaw and lallana (most likely to go to Brazil with England) will take a considerable salary increase which in turn will see the rest of squad wanting to 'wet their beaks! Also certain players and those we are looking to sign will want guarantees we can match their ambitions. To realistically go for Europe we need to hold on to shaw and lallana and add another 5/6 of similar quality. Poch also needs to find Ramirez's key because he can play, rumour is he's not a popular squad member. We have to also shift the dead wood that has been around for nearly 2 seasons, and on top of that find a way if introducing the young guns from the accademy. It's a nice problem to have, I think we are at peace in the boardroom and I have confidence in them. Katharina is involved and it's her money, she has successful businesses and has surrounded herself with people she trusts.
A stadium increase is a must to continue our growth too, this will enable greater support and money coming thru. Personally I'd let shaw go for no less than £25m and keep lallana at all costs, we need some older heads and hopefully lallana will want to grow old with us!
Summer transfer window is going to be testing. We have reached a point where our players are being coveted by the big guns and quite rightly so. The board have to weigh up the risks and only they know if we have the money to compete with the big boys. To keep the likes of shaw and lallana (most likely to go to Brazil with England) will take a considerable salary increase which in turn will see the rest of squad wanting to 'wet their beaks! Also certain players and those we are looking to sign will want guarantees we can match their ambitions. To realistically go for Europe we need to hold on to shaw and lallana and add another 5/6 of similar quality. Poch also needs to find Ramirez's key because he can play, rumour is he's not a popular squad member. We have to also shift the dead wood that has been around for nearly 2 seasons, and on top of that find a way if introducing the young guns from the accademy. It's a nice problem to have, I think we are at peace in the boardroom and I have confidence in them. Katharina is involved and it's her money, she has successful businesses and has surrounded herself with people she trusts. A stadium increase is a must to continue our growth too, this will enable greater support and money coming thru. Personally I'd let shaw go for no less than £25m and keep lallana at all costs, we need some older heads and hopefully lallana will want to grow old with us! ghk230473
  • Score: 5

4:56pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Sainty saint saint says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Summer transfer window is going to be testing. We have reached a point where our players are being coveted by the big guns and quite rightly so. The board have to weigh up the risks and only they know if we have the money to compete with the big boys. To keep the likes of shaw and lallana (most likely to go to Brazil with England) will take a considerable salary increase which in turn will see the rest of squad wanting to 'wet their beaks! Also certain players and those we are looking to sign will want guarantees we can match their ambitions. To realistically go for Europe we need to hold on to shaw and lallana and add another 5/6 of similar quality. Poch also needs to find Ramirez's key because he can play, rumour is he's not a popular squad member. We have to also shift the dead wood that has been around for nearly 2 seasons, and on top of that find a way if introducing the young guns from the accademy. It's a nice problem to have, I think we are at peace in the boardroom and I have confidence in them. Katharina is involved and it's her money, she has successful businesses and has surrounded herself with people she trusts.
A stadium increase is a must to continue our growth too, this will enable greater support and money coming thru. Personally I'd let shaw go for no less than £25m and keep lallana at all costs, we need some older heads and hopefully lallana will want to grow old with us!
Out of interest, where did you hear the rumour that Ramirez 'is not a popular squad member'?
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Summer transfer window is going to be testing. We have reached a point where our players are being coveted by the big guns and quite rightly so. The board have to weigh up the risks and only they know if we have the money to compete with the big boys. To keep the likes of shaw and lallana (most likely to go to Brazil with England) will take a considerable salary increase which in turn will see the rest of squad wanting to 'wet their beaks! Also certain players and those we are looking to sign will want guarantees we can match their ambitions. To realistically go for Europe we need to hold on to shaw and lallana and add another 5/6 of similar quality. Poch also needs to find Ramirez's key because he can play, rumour is he's not a popular squad member. We have to also shift the dead wood that has been around for nearly 2 seasons, and on top of that find a way if introducing the young guns from the accademy. It's a nice problem to have, I think we are at peace in the boardroom and I have confidence in them. Katharina is involved and it's her money, she has successful businesses and has surrounded herself with people she trusts. A stadium increase is a must to continue our growth too, this will enable greater support and money coming thru. Personally I'd let shaw go for no less than £25m and keep lallana at all costs, we need some older heads and hopefully lallana will want to grow old with us![/p][/quote]Out of interest, where did you hear the rumour that Ramirez 'is not a popular squad member'? Sainty saint saint
  • Score: 7

5:00pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Clever Dick says...

jrod11 wrote:
shane76 wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.
How do you explain Adam Lallana then ?
As an exception do you think as my post says ?
If contracts mean so little why then do clubs bother to sign players on 5 year deals. The answer of course is that they mean a lot. A five year contract guarantees a player that he is valued by the club and that generally means made for life in the Prem. Of course it is difficult to hold on when the moneyed leeches come along but it is the length of contract which helps to determine the fee. At the end of the day no player can walk away and play for another club if he is under contract elsewhere. Any club deciding to play hardball can force a player out of action unless he shapes up. It's happened in the past and it wiill happen in the future.
[quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shane76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.[/p][/quote]How do you explain Adam Lallana then ?[/p][/quote]As an exception do you think as my post says ?[/p][/quote]If contracts mean so little why then do clubs bother to sign players on 5 year deals. The answer of course is that they mean a lot. A five year contract guarantees a player that he is valued by the club and that generally means made for life in the Prem. Of course it is difficult to hold on when the moneyed leeches come along but it is the length of contract which helps to determine the fee. At the end of the day no player can walk away and play for another club if he is under contract elsewhere. Any club deciding to play hardball can force a player out of action unless he shapes up. It's happened in the past and it wiill happen in the future. Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

5:04pm Wed 26 Mar 14

ghk230473 says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Summer transfer window is going to be testing. We have reached a point where our players are being coveted by the big guns and quite rightly so. The board have to weigh up the risks and only they know if we have the money to compete with the big boys. To keep the likes of shaw and lallana (most likely to go to Brazil with England) will take a considerable salary increase which in turn will see the rest of squad wanting to 'wet their beaks! Also certain players and those we are looking to sign will want guarantees we can match their ambitions. To realistically go for Europe we need to hold on to shaw and lallana and add another 5/6 of similar quality. Poch also needs to find Ramirez's key because he can play, rumour is he's not a popular squad member. We have to also shift the dead wood that has been around for nearly 2 seasons, and on top of that find a way if introducing the young guns from the accademy. It's a nice problem to have, I think we are at peace in the boardroom and I have confidence in them. Katharina is involved and it's her money, she has successful businesses and has surrounded herself with people she trusts.
A stadium increase is a must to continue our growth too, this will enable greater support and money coming thru. Personally I'd let shaw go for no less than £25m and keep lallana at all costs, we need some older heads and hopefully lallana will want to grow old with us!
Out of interest, where did you hear the rumour that Ramirez 'is not a popular squad member'?
Sunday after the Norwich victory certain members were out in an establishment in Bedford place (most of which were smoking apart from lallana, who was spitting a lot?!) a few beans were spilt.
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Summer transfer window is going to be testing. We have reached a point where our players are being coveted by the big guns and quite rightly so. The board have to weigh up the risks and only they know if we have the money to compete with the big boys. To keep the likes of shaw and lallana (most likely to go to Brazil with England) will take a considerable salary increase which in turn will see the rest of squad wanting to 'wet their beaks! Also certain players and those we are looking to sign will want guarantees we can match their ambitions. To realistically go for Europe we need to hold on to shaw and lallana and add another 5/6 of similar quality. Poch also needs to find Ramirez's key because he can play, rumour is he's not a popular squad member. We have to also shift the dead wood that has been around for nearly 2 seasons, and on top of that find a way if introducing the young guns from the accademy. It's a nice problem to have, I think we are at peace in the boardroom and I have confidence in them. Katharina is involved and it's her money, she has successful businesses and has surrounded herself with people she trusts. A stadium increase is a must to continue our growth too, this will enable greater support and money coming thru. Personally I'd let shaw go for no less than £25m and keep lallana at all costs, we need some older heads and hopefully lallana will want to grow old with us![/p][/quote]Out of interest, where did you hear the rumour that Ramirez 'is not a popular squad member'?[/p][/quote]Sunday after the Norwich victory certain members were out in an establishment in Bedford place (most of which were smoking apart from lallana, who was spitting a lot?!) a few beans were spilt. ghk230473
  • Score: -9

5:19pm Wed 26 Mar 14

JohnItaly says...

Clever Dick wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
shane76 wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.
How do you explain Adam Lallana then ?
As an exception do you think as my post says ?
If contracts mean so little why then do clubs bother to sign players on 5 year deals. The answer of course is that they mean a lot. A five year contract guarantees a player that he is valued by the club and that generally means made for life in the Prem. Of course it is difficult to hold on when the moneyed leeches come along but it is the length of contract which helps to determine the fee. At the end of the day no player can walk away and play for another club if he is under contract elsewhere. Any club deciding to play hardball can force a player out of action unless he shapes up. It's happened in the past and it wiill happen in the future.
I suspect the most difficult clause to come to an agreement with these days is the "buy out" value. I obviously do not know but I cannot imagine that when someone like Luke Shaw, who has been on many a radar for some time, is negotiating a contract his agent / player will insist on such a clause.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shane76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.[/p][/quote]How do you explain Adam Lallana then ?[/p][/quote]As an exception do you think as my post says ?[/p][/quote]If contracts mean so little why then do clubs bother to sign players on 5 year deals. The answer of course is that they mean a lot. A five year contract guarantees a player that he is valued by the club and that generally means made for life in the Prem. Of course it is difficult to hold on when the moneyed leeches come along but it is the length of contract which helps to determine the fee. At the end of the day no player can walk away and play for another club if he is under contract elsewhere. Any club deciding to play hardball can force a player out of action unless he shapes up. It's happened in the past and it wiill happen in the future.[/p][/quote]I suspect the most difficult clause to come to an agreement with these days is the "buy out" value. I obviously do not know but I cannot imagine that when someone like Luke Shaw, who has been on many a radar for some time, is negotiating a contract his agent / player will insist on such a clause. JohnItaly
  • Score: 2

5:26pm Wed 26 Mar 14

jrod11 says...

Clever Dick wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
shane76 wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.
How do you explain Adam Lallana then ?
As an exception do you think as my post says ?
If contracts mean so little why then do clubs bother to sign players on 5 year deals. The answer of course is that they mean a lot. A five year contract guarantees a player that he is valued by the club and that generally means made for life in the Prem. Of course it is difficult to hold on when the moneyed leeches come along but it is the length of contract which helps to determine the fee. At the end of the day no player can walk away and play for another club if he is under contract elsewhere. Any club deciding to play hardball can force a player out of action unless he shapes up. It's happened in the past and it wiill happen in the future.
So you agree with me then Dick ?
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shane76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.[/p][/quote]How do you explain Adam Lallana then ?[/p][/quote]As an exception do you think as my post says ?[/p][/quote]If contracts mean so little why then do clubs bother to sign players on 5 year deals. The answer of course is that they mean a lot. A five year contract guarantees a player that he is valued by the club and that generally means made for life in the Prem. Of course it is difficult to hold on when the moneyed leeches come along but it is the length of contract which helps to determine the fee. At the end of the day no player can walk away and play for another club if he is under contract elsewhere. Any club deciding to play hardball can force a player out of action unless he shapes up. It's happened in the past and it wiill happen in the future.[/p][/quote]So you agree with me then Dick ? jrod11
  • Score: 2

5:35pm Wed 26 Mar 14

warrens 76 says...

Luke Shaw will probably go he is a credit to himself and the club but regrettably his heart is probably at Chelsea if they come 'a calling'.

However because we can now name a price as oppossed to take any crumbs on offer wewill make aa amount of money which will almost certainly improve two positions for the loss of one which we have cover for..

Adam will stay, Osvaldo will either return and set the prem alight OR repay his fee so even stevens…add Shaw and Osvaldo money together and you have a £50 million pot …now who would have imagined that on top of our 'almost' superb team 4 years ago…

Next year i believe we will step up two places minimum…top four is unfortunately a bridge too far..looking at 100 million transfer fees plus wages.

We will get there but it's five years away without a major hiccup.
Luke Shaw will probably go he is a credit to himself and the club but regrettably his heart is probably at Chelsea if they come 'a calling'. However because we can now name a price as oppossed to take any crumbs on offer wewill make aa amount of money which will almost certainly improve two positions for the loss of one which we have cover for.. Adam will stay, Osvaldo will either return and set the prem alight OR repay his fee so even stevens…add Shaw and Osvaldo money together and you have a £50 million pot …now who would have imagined that on top of our 'almost' superb team 4 years ago… Next year i believe we will step up two places minimum…top four is unfortunately a bridge too far..looking at 100 million transfer fees plus wages. We will get there but it's five years away without a major hiccup. warrens 76
  • Score: 3

6:06pm Wed 26 Mar 14

warrens 76 says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Summer transfer window is going to be testing. We have reached a point where our players are being coveted by the big guns and quite rightly so. The board have to weigh up the risks and only they know if we have the money to compete with the big boys. To keep the likes of shaw and lallana (most likely to go to Brazil with England) will take a considerable salary increase which in turn will see the rest of squad wanting to 'wet their beaks! Also certain players and those we are looking to sign will want guarantees we can match their ambitions. To realistically go for Europe we need to hold on to shaw and lallana and add another 5/6 of similar quality. Poch also needs to find Ramirez's key because he can play, rumour is he's not a popular squad member. We have to also shift the dead wood that has been around for nearly 2 seasons, and on top of that find a way if introducing the young guns from the accademy. It's a nice problem to have, I think we are at peace in the boardroom and I have confidence in them. Katharina is involved and it's her money, she has successful businesses and has surrounded herself with people she trusts.
A stadium increase is a must to continue our growth too, this will enable greater support and money coming thru. Personally I'd let shaw go for no less than £25m and keep lallana at all costs, we need some older heads and hopefully lallana will want to grow old with us!
Out of interest, where did you hear the rumour that Ramirez 'is not a popular squad member'?
Sunday after the Norwich victory certain members were out in an establishment in Bedford place (most of which were smoking apart from lallana, who was spitting a lot?!) a few beans were spilt.
who was Adam spitting at???
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Summer transfer window is going to be testing. We have reached a point where our players are being coveted by the big guns and quite rightly so. The board have to weigh up the risks and only they know if we have the money to compete with the big boys. To keep the likes of shaw and lallana (most likely to go to Brazil with England) will take a considerable salary increase which in turn will see the rest of squad wanting to 'wet their beaks! Also certain players and those we are looking to sign will want guarantees we can match their ambitions. To realistically go for Europe we need to hold on to shaw and lallana and add another 5/6 of similar quality. Poch also needs to find Ramirez's key because he can play, rumour is he's not a popular squad member. We have to also shift the dead wood that has been around for nearly 2 seasons, and on top of that find a way if introducing the young guns from the accademy. It's a nice problem to have, I think we are at peace in the boardroom and I have confidence in them. Katharina is involved and it's her money, she has successful businesses and has surrounded herself with people she trusts. A stadium increase is a must to continue our growth too, this will enable greater support and money coming thru. Personally I'd let shaw go for no less than £25m and keep lallana at all costs, we need some older heads and hopefully lallana will want to grow old with us![/p][/quote]Out of interest, where did you hear the rumour that Ramirez 'is not a popular squad member'?[/p][/quote]Sunday after the Norwich victory certain members were out in an establishment in Bedford place (most of which were smoking apart from lallana, who was spitting a lot?!) a few beans were spilt.[/p][/quote]who was Adam spitting at??? warrens 76
  • Score: 2

6:18pm Wed 26 Mar 14

ghk230473 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Summer transfer window is going to be testing. We have reached a point where our players are being coveted by the big guns and quite rightly so. The board have to weigh up the risks and only they know if we have the money to compete with the big boys. To keep the likes of shaw and lallana (most likely to go to Brazil with England) will take a considerable salary increase which in turn will see the rest of squad wanting to 'wet their beaks! Also certain players and those we are looking to sign will want guarantees we can match their ambitions. To realistically go for Europe we need to hold on to shaw and lallana and add another 5/6 of similar quality. Poch also needs to find Ramirez's key because he can play, rumour is he's not a popular squad member. We have to also shift the dead wood that has been around for nearly 2 seasons, and on top of that find a way if introducing the young guns from the accademy. It's a nice problem to have, I think we are at peace in the boardroom and I have confidence in them. Katharina is involved and it's her money, she has successful businesses and has surrounded herself with people she trusts.
A stadium increase is a must to continue our growth too, this will enable greater support and money coming thru. Personally I'd let shaw go for no less than £25m and keep lallana at all costs, we need some older heads and hopefully lallana will want to grow old with us!
Out of interest, where did you hear the rumour that Ramirez 'is not a popular squad member'?
Sunday after the Norwich victory certain members were out in an establishment in Bedford place (most of which were smoking apart from lallana, who was spitting a lot?!) a few beans were spilt.
who was Adam spitting at???
No one, just on the floor of pub? They can't handle their beer!
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Summer transfer window is going to be testing. We have reached a point where our players are being coveted by the big guns and quite rightly so. The board have to weigh up the risks and only they know if we have the money to compete with the big boys. To keep the likes of shaw and lallana (most likely to go to Brazil with England) will take a considerable salary increase which in turn will see the rest of squad wanting to 'wet their beaks! Also certain players and those we are looking to sign will want guarantees we can match their ambitions. To realistically go for Europe we need to hold on to shaw and lallana and add another 5/6 of similar quality. Poch also needs to find Ramirez's key because he can play, rumour is he's not a popular squad member. We have to also shift the dead wood that has been around for nearly 2 seasons, and on top of that find a way if introducing the young guns from the accademy. It's a nice problem to have, I think we are at peace in the boardroom and I have confidence in them. Katharina is involved and it's her money, she has successful businesses and has surrounded herself with people she trusts. A stadium increase is a must to continue our growth too, this will enable greater support and money coming thru. Personally I'd let shaw go for no less than £25m and keep lallana at all costs, we need some older heads and hopefully lallana will want to grow old with us![/p][/quote]Out of interest, where did you hear the rumour that Ramirez 'is not a popular squad member'?[/p][/quote]Sunday after the Norwich victory certain members were out in an establishment in Bedford place (most of which were smoking apart from lallana, who was spitting a lot?!) a few beans were spilt.[/p][/quote]who was Adam spitting at???[/p][/quote]No one, just on the floor of pub? They can't handle their beer! ghk230473
  • Score: -2

6:24pm Wed 26 Mar 14

saintmicky says...

warrens 76 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Summer transfer window is going to be testing. We have reached a point where our players are being coveted by the big guns and quite rightly so. The board have to weigh up the risks and only they know if we have the money to compete with the big boys. To keep the likes of shaw and lallana (most likely to go to Brazil with England) will take a considerable salary increase which in turn will see the rest of squad wanting to 'wet their beaks! Also certain players and those we are looking to sign will want guarantees we can match their ambitions. To realistically go for Europe we need to hold on to shaw and lallana and add another 5/6 of similar quality. Poch also needs to find Ramirez's key because he can play, rumour is he's not a popular squad member. We have to also shift the dead wood that has been around for nearly 2 seasons, and on top of that find a way if introducing the young guns from the accademy. It's a nice problem to have, I think we are at peace in the boardroom and I have confidence in them. Katharina is involved and it's her money, she has successful businesses and has surrounded herself with people she trusts.
A stadium increase is a must to continue our growth too, this will enable greater support and money coming thru. Personally I'd let shaw go for no less than £25m and keep lallana at all costs, we need some older heads and hopefully lallana will want to grow old with us!
Out of interest, where did you hear the rumour that Ramirez 'is not a popular squad member'?
Sunday after the Norwich victory certain members were out in an establishment in Bedford place (most of which were smoking apart from lallana, who was spitting a lot?!) a few beans were spilt.
who was Adam spitting at???
Those that were smoking you would hope, mind you once you wake up you usually have difficulty remembering all the details!
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Summer transfer window is going to be testing. We have reached a point where our players are being coveted by the big guns and quite rightly so. The board have to weigh up the risks and only they know if we have the money to compete with the big boys. To keep the likes of shaw and lallana (most likely to go to Brazil with England) will take a considerable salary increase which in turn will see the rest of squad wanting to 'wet their beaks! Also certain players and those we are looking to sign will want guarantees we can match their ambitions. To realistically go for Europe we need to hold on to shaw and lallana and add another 5/6 of similar quality. Poch also needs to find Ramirez's key because he can play, rumour is he's not a popular squad member. We have to also shift the dead wood that has been around for nearly 2 seasons, and on top of that find a way if introducing the young guns from the accademy. It's a nice problem to have, I think we are at peace in the boardroom and I have confidence in them. Katharina is involved and it's her money, she has successful businesses and has surrounded herself with people she trusts. A stadium increase is a must to continue our growth too, this will enable greater support and money coming thru. Personally I'd let shaw go for no less than £25m and keep lallana at all costs, we need some older heads and hopefully lallana will want to grow old with us![/p][/quote]Out of interest, where did you hear the rumour that Ramirez 'is not a popular squad member'?[/p][/quote]Sunday after the Norwich victory certain members were out in an establishment in Bedford place (most of which were smoking apart from lallana, who was spitting a lot?!) a few beans were spilt.[/p][/quote]who was Adam spitting at???[/p][/quote]Those that were smoking you would hope, mind you once you wake up you usually have difficulty remembering all the details! saintmicky
  • Score: 1

6:48pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Clever Dick says...

jrod11 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
shane76 wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.
How do you explain Adam Lallana then ?
As an exception do you think as my post says ?
If contracts mean so little why then do clubs bother to sign players on 5 year deals. The answer of course is that they mean a lot. A five year contract guarantees a player that he is valued by the club and that generally means made for life in the Prem. Of course it is difficult to hold on when the moneyed leeches come along but it is the length of contract which helps to determine the fee. At the end of the day no player can walk away and play for another club if he is under contract elsewhere. Any club deciding to play hardball can force a player out of action unless he shapes up. It's happened in the past and it wiill happen in the future.
So you agree with me then Dick ?
I agree that money talks, but don't agree that contracts mean very little. Personally, though I'll get slated for it I would certainly sell Luke Shaw for £30 million if somebody wants to pay it. With that money added to whatever has been decided the tranfer budget is we would be able to fund a top class replacement and at least 2 others. Maybe another centre half and a striker or flying winger. If the budget were to be, for example£20mil that is a total of £50 mill. That's a pretty tasty amount. As long as we are improving the team I'm happy. I'm not fixated on keeping every player we have. Players have and always will move between clubs and every player has his price.
[quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shane76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.[/p][/quote]How do you explain Adam Lallana then ?[/p][/quote]As an exception do you think as my post says ?[/p][/quote]If contracts mean so little why then do clubs bother to sign players on 5 year deals. The answer of course is that they mean a lot. A five year contract guarantees a player that he is valued by the club and that generally means made for life in the Prem. Of course it is difficult to hold on when the moneyed leeches come along but it is the length of contract which helps to determine the fee. At the end of the day no player can walk away and play for another club if he is under contract elsewhere. Any club deciding to play hardball can force a player out of action unless he shapes up. It's happened in the past and it wiill happen in the future.[/p][/quote]So you agree with me then Dick ?[/p][/quote]I agree that money talks, but don't agree that contracts mean very little. Personally, though I'll get slated for it I would certainly sell Luke Shaw for £30 million if somebody wants to pay it. With that money added to whatever has been decided the tranfer budget is we would be able to fund a top class replacement and at least 2 others. Maybe another centre half and a striker or flying winger. If the budget were to be, for example£20mil that is a total of £50 mill. That's a pretty tasty amount. As long as we are improving the team I'm happy. I'm not fixated on keeping every player we have. Players have and always will move between clubs and every player has his price. Clever Dick
  • Score: 1

6:59pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Skates seem to think Agent Barker has been uncovered and sacked :0(
Skates seem to think Agent Barker has been uncovered and sacked :0( Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

7:18pm Wed 26 Mar 14

jrod11 says...

Clever Dick wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
shane76 wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.
How do you explain Adam Lallana then ?
As an exception do you think as my post says ?
If contracts mean so little why then do clubs bother to sign players on 5 year deals. The answer of course is that they mean a lot. A five year contract guarantees a player that he is valued by the club and that generally means made for life in the Prem. Of course it is difficult to hold on when the moneyed leeches come along but it is the length of contract which helps to determine the fee. At the end of the day no player can walk away and play for another club if he is under contract elsewhere. Any club deciding to play hardball can force a player out of action unless he shapes up. It's happened in the past and it wiill happen in the future.
So you agree with me then Dick ?
I agree that money talks, but don't agree that contracts mean very little. Personally, though I'll get slated for it I would certainly sell Luke Shaw for £30 million if somebody wants to pay it. With that money added to whatever has been decided the tranfer budget is we would be able to fund a top class replacement and at least 2 others. Maybe another centre half and a striker or flying winger. If the budget were to be, for example£20mil that is a total of £50 mill. That's a pretty tasty amount. As long as we are improving the team I'm happy. I'm not fixated on keeping every player we have. Players have and always will move between clubs and every player has his price.
So you do agree with me then Dick ? Thank You.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shane76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.[/p][/quote]How do you explain Adam Lallana then ?[/p][/quote]As an exception do you think as my post says ?[/p][/quote]If contracts mean so little why then do clubs bother to sign players on 5 year deals. The answer of course is that they mean a lot. A five year contract guarantees a player that he is valued by the club and that generally means made for life in the Prem. Of course it is difficult to hold on when the moneyed leeches come along but it is the length of contract which helps to determine the fee. At the end of the day no player can walk away and play for another club if he is under contract elsewhere. Any club deciding to play hardball can force a player out of action unless he shapes up. It's happened in the past and it wiill happen in the future.[/p][/quote]So you agree with me then Dick ?[/p][/quote]I agree that money talks, but don't agree that contracts mean very little. Personally, though I'll get slated for it I would certainly sell Luke Shaw for £30 million if somebody wants to pay it. With that money added to whatever has been decided the tranfer budget is we would be able to fund a top class replacement and at least 2 others. Maybe another centre half and a striker or flying winger. If the budget were to be, for example£20mil that is a total of £50 mill. That's a pretty tasty amount. As long as we are improving the team I'm happy. I'm not fixated on keeping every player we have. Players have and always will move between clubs and every player has his price.[/p][/quote]So you do agree with me then Dick ? Thank You. jrod11
  • Score: -3

7:42pm Wed 26 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Skates seem to think Agent Barker has been uncovered and sacked :0(
quote from the fews
"With the club just two points above the relegation zone, many Blues supporters are demanding the sacking of the manager after 108 days in the job."
perhaps they thought that they own the club and could sack him themselves!

can we start a campaign to save his job?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Skates seem to think Agent Barker has been uncovered and sacked :0([/p][/quote]quote from the fews "With the club just two points above the relegation zone, many Blues supporters are demanding the sacking of the manager after 108 days in the job." perhaps they thought that they own the club and could sack him themselves! can we start a campaign to save his job? el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

7:44pm Wed 26 Mar 14

jrod11 says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Skates seem to think Agent Barker has been uncovered and sacked :0(
quote from the fews
"With the club just two points above the relegation zone, many Blues supporters are demanding the sacking of the manager after 108 days in the job."
perhaps they thought that they own the club and could sack him themselves!

can we start a campaign to save his job?
Sign me up ....
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Skates seem to think Agent Barker has been uncovered and sacked :0([/p][/quote]quote from the fews "With the club just two points above the relegation zone, many Blues supporters are demanding the sacking of the manager after 108 days in the job." perhaps they thought that they own the club and could sack him themselves! can we start a campaign to save his job?[/p][/quote]Sign me up .... jrod11
  • Score: 0

7:54pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Clever Dick says...

jrod11 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
shane76 wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.
How do you explain Adam Lallana then ?
As an exception do you think as my post says ?
If contracts mean so little why then do clubs bother to sign players on 5 year deals. The answer of course is that they mean a lot. A five year contract guarantees a player that he is valued by the club and that generally means made for life in the Prem. Of course it is difficult to hold on when the moneyed leeches come along but it is the length of contract which helps to determine the fee. At the end of the day no player can walk away and play for another club if he is under contract elsewhere. Any club deciding to play hardball can force a player out of action unless he shapes up. It's happened in the past and it wiill happen in the future.
So you agree with me then Dick ?
I agree that money talks, but don't agree that contracts mean very little. Personally, though I'll get slated for it I would certainly sell Luke Shaw for £30 million if somebody wants to pay it. With that money added to whatever has been decided the tranfer budget is we would be able to fund a top class replacement and at least 2 others. Maybe another centre half and a striker or flying winger. If the budget were to be, for example£20mil that is a total of £50 mill. That's a pretty tasty amount. As long as we are improving the team I'm happy. I'm not fixated on keeping every player we have. Players have and always will move between clubs and every player has his price.
So you do agree with me then Dick ? Thank You.
I thought I had just made it pretty plain that I agree in part and disagree in part. However you seem determined to read just the bits that suit you. Feel free, it's no skin off my nose.
[quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shane76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.[/p][/quote]How do you explain Adam Lallana then ?[/p][/quote]As an exception do you think as my post says ?[/p][/quote]If contracts mean so little why then do clubs bother to sign players on 5 year deals. The answer of course is that they mean a lot. A five year contract guarantees a player that he is valued by the club and that generally means made for life in the Prem. Of course it is difficult to hold on when the moneyed leeches come along but it is the length of contract which helps to determine the fee. At the end of the day no player can walk away and play for another club if he is under contract elsewhere. Any club deciding to play hardball can force a player out of action unless he shapes up. It's happened in the past and it wiill happen in the future.[/p][/quote]So you agree with me then Dick ?[/p][/quote]I agree that money talks, but don't agree that contracts mean very little. Personally, though I'll get slated for it I would certainly sell Luke Shaw for £30 million if somebody wants to pay it. With that money added to whatever has been decided the tranfer budget is we would be able to fund a top class replacement and at least 2 others. Maybe another centre half and a striker or flying winger. If the budget were to be, for example£20mil that is a total of £50 mill. That's a pretty tasty amount. As long as we are improving the team I'm happy. I'm not fixated on keeping every player we have. Players have and always will move between clubs and every player has his price.[/p][/quote]So you do agree with me then Dick ? Thank You.[/p][/quote]I thought I had just made it pretty plain that I agree in part and disagree in part. However you seem determined to read just the bits that suit you. Feel free, it's no skin off my nose. Clever Dick
  • Score: 3

7:56pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Summer transfer window is going to be testing. We have reached a point where our players are being coveted by the big guns and quite rightly so. The board have to weigh up the risks and only they know if we have the money to compete with the big boys. To keep the likes of shaw and lallana (most likely to go to Brazil with England) will take a considerable salary increase which in turn will see the rest of squad wanting to 'wet their beaks! Also certain players and those we are looking to sign will want guarantees we can match their ambitions. To realistically go for Europe we need to hold on to shaw and lallana and add another 5/6 of similar quality. Poch also needs to find Ramirez's key because he can play, rumour is he's not a popular squad member. We have to also shift the dead wood that has been around for nearly 2 seasons, and on top of that find a way if introducing the young guns from the accademy. It's a nice problem to have, I think we are at peace in the boardroom and I have confidence in them. Katharina is involved and it's her money, she has successful businesses and has surrounded herself with people she trusts.
A stadium increase is a must to continue our growth too, this will enable greater support and money coming thru. Personally I'd let shaw go for no less than £25m and keep lallana at all costs, we need some older heads and hopefully lallana will want to grow old with us!
Out of interest, where did you hear the rumour that Ramirez 'is not a popular squad member'?
Sunday after the Norwich victory certain members were out in an establishment in Bedford place (most of which were smoking apart from lallana, who was spitting a lot?!) a few beans were spilt.
who was Adam spitting at???
No one, just on the floor of pub? They can't handle their beer!
Certain members? Tell more we need to name and shame these charlattans that are letting the Club down.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Summer transfer window is going to be testing. We have reached a point where our players are being coveted by the big guns and quite rightly so. The board have to weigh up the risks and only they know if we have the money to compete with the big boys. To keep the likes of shaw and lallana (most likely to go to Brazil with England) will take a considerable salary increase which in turn will see the rest of squad wanting to 'wet their beaks! Also certain players and those we are looking to sign will want guarantees we can match their ambitions. To realistically go for Europe we need to hold on to shaw and lallana and add another 5/6 of similar quality. Poch also needs to find Ramirez's key because he can play, rumour is he's not a popular squad member. We have to also shift the dead wood that has been around for nearly 2 seasons, and on top of that find a way if introducing the young guns from the accademy. It's a nice problem to have, I think we are at peace in the boardroom and I have confidence in them. Katharina is involved and it's her money, she has successful businesses and has surrounded herself with people she trusts. A stadium increase is a must to continue our growth too, this will enable greater support and money coming thru. Personally I'd let shaw go for no less than £25m and keep lallana at all costs, we need some older heads and hopefully lallana will want to grow old with us![/p][/quote]Out of interest, where did you hear the rumour that Ramirez 'is not a popular squad member'?[/p][/quote]Sunday after the Norwich victory certain members were out in an establishment in Bedford place (most of which were smoking apart from lallana, who was spitting a lot?!) a few beans were spilt.[/p][/quote]who was Adam spitting at???[/p][/quote]No one, just on the floor of pub? They can't handle their beer![/p][/quote]Certain members? Tell more we need to name and shame these charlattans that are letting the Club down. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

8:02pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

jrod11 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Skates seem to think Agent Barker has been uncovered and sacked :0(
quote from the fews
"With the club just two points above the relegation zone, many Blues supporters are demanding the sacking of the manager after 108 days in the job."
perhaps they thought that they own the club and could sack him themselves!

can we start a campaign to save his job?
Sign me up ....
OK. How do you spell your full name, and an e-mail address so that we can reply.
[quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Skates seem to think Agent Barker has been uncovered and sacked :0([/p][/quote]quote from the fews "With the club just two points above the relegation zone, many Blues supporters are demanding the sacking of the manager after 108 days in the job." perhaps they thought that they own the club and could sack him themselves! can we start a campaign to save his job?[/p][/quote]Sign me up ....[/p][/quote]OK. How do you spell your full name, and an e-mail address so that we can reply. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

8:03pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Skates seem to think Agent Barker has been uncovered and sacked :0(
quote from the fews
"With the club just two points above the relegation zone, many Blues supporters are demanding the sacking of the manager after 108 days in the job."
perhaps they thought that they own the club and could sack him themselves!

can we start a campaign to save his job?
Check out The News site for the latest, his future is apparently being discussed tonight.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Skates seem to think Agent Barker has been uncovered and sacked :0([/p][/quote]quote from the fews "With the club just two points above the relegation zone, many Blues supporters are demanding the sacking of the manager after 108 days in the job." perhaps they thought that they own the club and could sack him themselves! can we start a campaign to save his job?[/p][/quote]Check out The News site for the latest, his future is apparently being discussed tonight. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

8:07pm Wed 26 Mar 14

jrod11 says...

Clever Dick wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
shane76 wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.
How do you explain Adam Lallana then ?
As an exception do you think as my post says ?
If contracts mean so little why then do clubs bother to sign players on 5 year deals. The answer of course is that they mean a lot. A five year contract guarantees a player that he is valued by the club and that generally means made for life in the Prem. Of course it is difficult to hold on when the moneyed leeches come along but it is the length of contract which helps to determine the fee. At the end of the day no player can walk away and play for another club if he is under contract elsewhere. Any club deciding to play hardball can force a player out of action unless he shapes up. It's happened in the past and it wiill happen in the future.
So you agree with me then Dick ?
I agree that money talks, but don't agree that contracts mean very little. Personally, though I'll get slated for it I would certainly sell Luke Shaw for £30 million if somebody wants to pay it. With that money added to whatever has been decided the tranfer budget is we would be able to fund a top class replacement and at least 2 others. Maybe another centre half and a striker or flying winger. If the budget were to be, for example£20mil that is a total of £50 mill. That's a pretty tasty amount. As long as we are improving the team I'm happy. I'm not fixated on keeping every player we have. Players have and always will move between clubs and every player has his price.
So you do agree with me then Dick ? Thank You.
I thought I had just made it pretty plain that I agree in part and disagree in part. However you seem determined to read just the bits that suit you. Feel free, it's no skin off my nose.
You agree with my post 100% Dick but if you are unable to grasp that fact just backtrack and ponder on it and you will realise it .
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shane76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.[/p][/quote]How do you explain Adam Lallana then ?[/p][/quote]As an exception do you think as my post says ?[/p][/quote]If contracts mean so little why then do clubs bother to sign players on 5 year deals. The answer of course is that they mean a lot. A five year contract guarantees a player that he is valued by the club and that generally means made for life in the Prem. Of course it is difficult to hold on when the moneyed leeches come along but it is the length of contract which helps to determine the fee. At the end of the day no player can walk away and play for another club if he is under contract elsewhere. Any club deciding to play hardball can force a player out of action unless he shapes up. It's happened in the past and it wiill happen in the future.[/p][/quote]So you agree with me then Dick ?[/p][/quote]I agree that money talks, but don't agree that contracts mean very little. Personally, though I'll get slated for it I would certainly sell Luke Shaw for £30 million if somebody wants to pay it. With that money added to whatever has been decided the tranfer budget is we would be able to fund a top class replacement and at least 2 others. Maybe another centre half and a striker or flying winger. If the budget were to be, for example£20mil that is a total of £50 mill. That's a pretty tasty amount. As long as we are improving the team I'm happy. I'm not fixated on keeping every player we have. Players have and always will move between clubs and every player has his price.[/p][/quote]So you do agree with me then Dick ? Thank You.[/p][/quote]I thought I had just made it pretty plain that I agree in part and disagree in part. However you seem determined to read just the bits that suit you. Feel free, it's no skin off my nose.[/p][/quote]You agree with my post 100% Dick but if you are unable to grasp that fact just backtrack and ponder on it and you will realise it . jrod11
  • Score: -8

8:08pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Clever Dick says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Skates seem to think Agent Barker has been uncovered and sacked :0(
quote from the fews
"With the club just two points above the relegation zone, many Blues supporters are demanding the sacking of the manager after 108 days in the job."
perhaps they thought that they own the club and could sack him themselves!

can we start a campaign to save his job?
Check out The News site for the latest, his future is apparently being discussed tonight.
Are the owners going to decide his fate. I suppose that would be quite appropriate..... a load of mongrels deciding on the fate of a Barker. WOOF WOOF.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Skates seem to think Agent Barker has been uncovered and sacked :0([/p][/quote]quote from the fews "With the club just two points above the relegation zone, many Blues supporters are demanding the sacking of the manager after 108 days in the job." perhaps they thought that they own the club and could sack him themselves! can we start a campaign to save his job?[/p][/quote]Check out The News site for the latest, his future is apparently being discussed tonight.[/p][/quote]Are the owners going to decide his fate. I suppose that would be quite appropriate..... a load of mongrels deciding on the fate of a Barker. WOOF WOOF. Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

8:14pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Hammers 1 Up, Noble Pen. Hull GK red carded.
Hammers 1 Up, Noble Pen. Hull GK red carded. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -4

8:16pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Clever Dick says...

jrod11 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
shane76 wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.
How do you explain Adam Lallana then ?
As an exception do you think as my post says ?
If contracts mean so little why then do clubs bother to sign players on 5 year deals. The answer of course is that they mean a lot. A five year contract guarantees a player that he is valued by the club and that generally means made for life in the Prem. Of course it is difficult to hold on when the moneyed leeches come along but it is the length of contract which helps to determine the fee. At the end of the day no player can walk away and play for another club if he is under contract elsewhere. Any club deciding to play hardball can force a player out of action unless he shapes up. It's happened in the past and it wiill happen in the future.
So you agree with me then Dick ?
I agree that money talks, but don't agree that contracts mean very little. Personally, though I'll get slated for it I would certainly sell Luke Shaw for £30 million if somebody wants to pay it. With that money added to whatever has been decided the tranfer budget is we would be able to fund a top class replacement and at least 2 others. Maybe another centre half and a striker or flying winger. If the budget were to be, for example£20mil that is a total of £50 mill. That's a pretty tasty amount. As long as we are improving the team I'm happy. I'm not fixated on keeping every player we have. Players have and always will move between clubs and every player has his price.
So you do agree with me then Dick ? Thank You.
I thought I had just made it pretty plain that I agree in part and disagree in part. However you seem determined to read just the bits that suit you. Feel free, it's no skin off my nose.
You agree with my post 100% Dick but if you are unable to grasp that fact just backtrack and ponder on it and you will realise it .
Yes we get quite a few on here who always have to have the last word even when they are plainly embarrassing themselves. Again feel free. Just send another inane reply to this one and I won't bother replying. Hey presto! You have achieved a magnificent victory. (In your own tiny mind that is)
[quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shane76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: Apart from a few exceptions the only loyalty these days is from supporters not players and managers. Money talks more than loyalty and contracts mean very little but that is the way of the game now unfortunately.[/p][/quote]How do you explain Adam Lallana then ?[/p][/quote]As an exception do you think as my post says ?[/p][/quote]If contracts mean so little why then do clubs bother to sign players on 5 year deals. The answer of course is that they mean a lot. A five year contract guarantees a player that he is valued by the club and that generally means made for life in the Prem. Of course it is difficult to hold on when the moneyed leeches come along but it is the length of contract which helps to determine the fee. At the end of the day no player can walk away and play for another club if he is under contract elsewhere. Any club deciding to play hardball can force a player out of action unless he shapes up. It's happened in the past and it wiill happen in the future.[/p][/quote]So you agree with me then Dick ?[/p][/quote]I agree that money talks, but don't agree that contracts mean very little. Personally, though I'll get slated for it I would certainly sell Luke Shaw for £30 million if somebody wants to pay it. With that money added to whatever has been decided the tranfer budget is we would be able to fund a top class replacement and at least 2 others. Maybe another centre half and a striker or flying winger. If the budget were to be, for example£20mil that is a total of £50 mill. That's a pretty tasty amount. As long as we are improving the team I'm happy. I'm not fixated on keeping every player we have. Players have and always will move between clubs and every player has his price.[/p][/quote]So you do agree with me then Dick ? Thank You.[/p][/quote]I thought I had just made it pretty plain that I agree in part and disagree in part. However you seem determined to read just the bits that suit you. Feel free, it's no skin off my nose.[/p][/quote]You agree with my post 100% Dick but if you are unable to grasp that fact just backtrack and ponder on it and you will realise it .[/p][/quote]Yes we get quite a few on here who always have to have the last word even when they are plainly embarrassing themselves. Again feel free. Just send another inane reply to this one and I won't bother replying. Hey presto! You have achieved a magnificent victory. (In your own tiny mind that is) Clever Dick
  • Score: 3

8:24pm Wed 26 Mar 14

jrod11 says...

It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0)
It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0) jrod11
  • Score: -3

8:30pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

jrod11 wrote:
It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0)
Guess that you are happy, for once you have succeded in upsetting one of our better posters, bet you are feeling smug.
[quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0)[/p][/quote]Guess that you are happy, for once you have succeded in upsetting one of our better posters, bet you are feeling smug. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

8:38pm Wed 26 Mar 14

jrod11 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0)
Guess that you are happy, for once you have succeded in upsetting one of our better posters, bet you are feeling smug.
No its not my fault Dick is Thick and cant understand a simple post that he actually agrees with .
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0)[/p][/quote]Guess that you are happy, for once you have succeded in upsetting one of our better posters, bet you are feeling smug.[/p][/quote]No its not my fault Dick is Thick and cant understand a simple post that he actually agrees with . jrod11
  • Score: -5

8:38pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

WHU 1 0 ht, Scouse just gone 1 up Gerard fk.
WHU 1 0 ht, Scouse just gone 1 up Gerard fk. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

8:40pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

jrod11 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0)
Guess that you are happy, for once you have succeded in upsetting one of our better posters, bet you are feeling smug.
No its not my fault Dick is Thick and cant understand a simple post that he actually agrees with .
Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious. Those are the rules, what don't you understand about them?
[quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0)[/p][/quote]Guess that you are happy, for once you have succeded in upsetting one of our better posters, bet you are feeling smug.[/p][/quote]No its not my fault Dick is Thick and cant understand a simple post that he actually agrees with .[/p][/quote]Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious. Those are the rules, what don't you understand about them? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

8:54pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Clever Dick says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0)
Guess that you are happy, for once you have succeded in upsetting one of our better posters, bet you are feeling smug.
Hey Ospers. Don't think for one minute that I'm upset. I'm still chuckling in fact. As I've said many times before, I regard an insult from wum as a compliment. In fact it is true to say that nothing on this site upsets me. You have to pick out the interesting and informed from the downright stupid and I must admit that I can't resist responding to the stupid sometimes. Hence the amusing spat with this particular wum.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0)[/p][/quote]Guess that you are happy, for once you have succeded in upsetting one of our better posters, bet you are feeling smug.[/p][/quote]Hey Ospers. Don't think for one minute that I'm upset. I'm still chuckling in fact. As I've said many times before, I regard an insult from wum as a compliment. In fact it is true to say that nothing on this site upsets me. You have to pick out the interesting and informed from the downright stupid and I must admit that I can't resist responding to the stupid sometimes. Hence the amusing spat with this particular wum. Clever Dick
  • Score: 1

8:59pm Wed 26 Mar 14

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Summer transfer window is going to be testing. We have reached a point where our players are being coveted by the big guns and quite rightly so. The board have to weigh up the risks and only they know if we have the money to compete with the big boys. To keep the likes of shaw and lallana (most likely to go to Brazil with England) will take a considerable salary increase which in turn will see the rest of squad wanting to 'wet their beaks! Also certain players and those we are looking to sign will want guarantees we can match their ambitions. To realistically go for Europe we need to hold on to shaw and lallana and add another 5/6 of similar quality. Poch also needs to find Ramirez's key because he can play, rumour is he's not a popular squad member. We have to also shift the dead wood that has been around for nearly 2 seasons, and on top of that find a way if introducing the young guns from the accademy. It's a nice problem to have, I think we are at peace in the boardroom and I have confidence in them. Katharina is involved and it's her money, she has successful businesses and has surrounded herself with people she trusts.
A stadium increase is a must to continue our growth too, this will enable greater support and money coming thru. Personally I'd let shaw go for no less than £25m and keep lallana at all costs, we need some older heads and hopefully lallana will want to grow old with us!
Out of interest, where did you hear the rumour that Ramirez 'is not a popular squad member'?
Sunday after the Norwich victory certain members were out in an establishment in Bedford place (most of which were smoking apart from lallana, who was spitting a lot?!) a few beans were spilt.
who was Adam spitting at???
No one, just on the floor of pub? They can't handle their beer!
Certain members? Tell more we need to name and shame these charlattans that are letting the Club down.
A grass is worse than a thief! All I can say is that Ramirez wasn't there!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Summer transfer window is going to be testing. We have reached a point where our players are being coveted by the big guns and quite rightly so. The board have to weigh up the risks and only they know if we have the money to compete with the big boys. To keep the likes of shaw and lallana (most likely to go to Brazil with England) will take a considerable salary increase which in turn will see the rest of squad wanting to 'wet their beaks! Also certain players and those we are looking to sign will want guarantees we can match their ambitions. To realistically go for Europe we need to hold on to shaw and lallana and add another 5/6 of similar quality. Poch also needs to find Ramirez's key because he can play, rumour is he's not a popular squad member. We have to also shift the dead wood that has been around for nearly 2 seasons, and on top of that find a way if introducing the young guns from the accademy. It's a nice problem to have, I think we are at peace in the boardroom and I have confidence in them. Katharina is involved and it's her money, she has successful businesses and has surrounded herself with people she trusts. A stadium increase is a must to continue our growth too, this will enable greater support and money coming thru. Personally I'd let shaw go for no less than £25m and keep lallana at all costs, we need some older heads and hopefully lallana will want to grow old with us![/p][/quote]Out of interest, where did you hear the rumour that Ramirez 'is not a popular squad member'?[/p][/quote]Sunday after the Norwich victory certain members were out in an establishment in Bedford place (most of which were smoking apart from lallana, who was spitting a lot?!) a few beans were spilt.[/p][/quote]who was Adam spitting at???[/p][/quote]No one, just on the floor of pub? They can't handle their beer![/p][/quote]Certain members? Tell more we need to name and shame these charlattans that are letting the Club down.[/p][/quote]A grass is worse than a thief! All I can say is that Ramirez wasn't there! ghk230473
  • Score: -4

9:00pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Hull have equalised Jelavic.
Hull have equalised Jelavic. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

9:01pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

WHU 2 1 up Og. Not Hulls night!
WHU 2 1 up Og. Not Hulls night! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

9:03pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0)
Guess that you are happy, for once you have succeded in upsetting one of our better posters, bet you are feeling smug.
Hey Ospers. Don't think for one minute that I'm upset. I'm still chuckling in fact. As I've said many times before, I regard an insult from wum as a compliment. In fact it is true to say that nothing on this site upsets me. You have to pick out the interesting and informed from the downright stupid and I must admit that I can't resist responding to the stupid sometimes. Hence the amusing spat with this particular wum.
Best to ignor them, I have been suckered a few times!
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0)[/p][/quote]Guess that you are happy, for once you have succeded in upsetting one of our better posters, bet you are feeling smug.[/p][/quote]Hey Ospers. Don't think for one minute that I'm upset. I'm still chuckling in fact. As I've said many times before, I regard an insult from wum as a compliment. In fact it is true to say that nothing on this site upsets me. You have to pick out the interesting and informed from the downright stupid and I must admit that I can't resist responding to the stupid sometimes. Hence the amusing spat with this particular wum.[/p][/quote]Best to ignor them, I have been suckered a few times! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

9:04pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

2 nil Scouse Sturridge
2 nil Scouse Sturridge OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

9:09pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Summer transfer window is going to be testing. We have reached a point where our players are being coveted by the big guns and quite rightly so. The board have to weigh up the risks and only they know if we have the money to compete with the big boys. To keep the likes of shaw and lallana (most likely to go to Brazil with England) will take a considerable salary increase which in turn will see the rest of squad wanting to 'wet their beaks! Also certain players and those we are looking to sign will want guarantees we can match their ambitions. To realistically go for Europe we need to hold on to shaw and lallana and add another 5/6 of similar quality. Poch also needs to find Ramirez's key because he can play, rumour is he's not a popular squad member. We have to also shift the dead wood that has been around for nearly 2 seasons, and on top of that find a way if introducing the young guns from the accademy. It's a nice problem to have, I think we are at peace in the boardroom and I have confidence in them. Katharina is involved and it's her money, she has successful businesses and has surrounded herself with people she trusts.
A stadium increase is a must to continue our growth too, this will enable greater support and money coming thru. Personally I'd let shaw go for no less than £25m and keep lallana at all costs, we need some older heads and hopefully lallana will want to grow old with us!
Out of interest, where did you hear the rumour that Ramirez 'is not a popular squad member'?
Sunday after the Norwich victory certain members were out in an establishment in Bedford place (most of which were smoking apart from lallana, who was spitting a lot?!) a few beans were spilt.
who was Adam spitting at???
No one, just on the floor of pub? They can't handle their beer!
Certain members? Tell more we need to name and shame these charlattans that are letting the Club down.
A grass is worse than a thief! All I can say is that Ramirez wasn't there!
Like those two that snitched on one our own at Spuds for racist abuse? There are times when it is justified. I didn't expect to hear any news of who was involved, I deplore players for smoking, as it could harm their health, but without facts it is not worthy being judgemental.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Summer transfer window is going to be testing. We have reached a point where our players are being coveted by the big guns and quite rightly so. The board have to weigh up the risks and only they know if we have the money to compete with the big boys. To keep the likes of shaw and lallana (most likely to go to Brazil with England) will take a considerable salary increase which in turn will see the rest of squad wanting to 'wet their beaks! Also certain players and those we are looking to sign will want guarantees we can match their ambitions. To realistically go for Europe we need to hold on to shaw and lallana and add another 5/6 of similar quality. Poch also needs to find Ramirez's key because he can play, rumour is he's not a popular squad member. We have to also shift the dead wood that has been around for nearly 2 seasons, and on top of that find a way if introducing the young guns from the accademy. It's a nice problem to have, I think we are at peace in the boardroom and I have confidence in them. Katharina is involved and it's her money, she has successful businesses and has surrounded herself with people she trusts. A stadium increase is a must to continue our growth too, this will enable greater support and money coming thru. Personally I'd let shaw go for no less than £25m and keep lallana at all costs, we need some older heads and hopefully lallana will want to grow old with us![/p][/quote]Out of interest, where did you hear the rumour that Ramirez 'is not a popular squad member'?[/p][/quote]Sunday after the Norwich victory certain members were out in an establishment in Bedford place (most of which were smoking apart from lallana, who was spitting a lot?!) a few beans were spilt.[/p][/quote]who was Adam spitting at???[/p][/quote]No one, just on the floor of pub? They can't handle their beer![/p][/quote]Certain members? Tell more we need to name and shame these charlattans that are letting the Club down.[/p][/quote]A grass is worse than a thief! All I can say is that Ramirez wasn't there![/p][/quote]Like those two that snitched on one our own at Spuds for racist abuse? There are times when it is justified. I didn't expect to hear any news of who was involved, I deplore players for smoking, as it could harm their health, but without facts it is not worthy being judgemental. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

9:10pm Wed 26 Mar 14

jrod11 says...

So glad Dick is not too upset as he obviously shows himself up on a regular basis... Respect to you Dick.
So glad Dick is not too upset as he obviously shows himself up on a regular basis... Respect to you Dick. jrod11
  • Score: -8

9:15pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0)
Guess that you are happy, for once you have succeded in upsetting one of our better posters, bet you are feeling smug.
Hey Ospers. Don't think for one minute that I'm upset. I'm still chuckling in fact. As I've said many times before, I regard an insult from wum as a compliment. In fact it is true to say that nothing on this site upsets me. You have to pick out the interesting and informed from the downright stupid and I must admit that I can't resist responding to the stupid sometimes. Hence the amusing spat with this particular wum.
Not amusing for most methinks, have you notice how quick the thumbs down comes in as soon as we post anything, I detect some skulduggery afoot, lol.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0)[/p][/quote]Guess that you are happy, for once you have succeded in upsetting one of our better posters, bet you are feeling smug.[/p][/quote]Hey Ospers. Don't think for one minute that I'm upset. I'm still chuckling in fact. As I've said many times before, I regard an insult from wum as a compliment. In fact it is true to say that nothing on this site upsets me. You have to pick out the interesting and informed from the downright stupid and I must admit that I can't resist responding to the stupid sometimes. Hence the amusing spat with this particular wum.[/p][/quote]Not amusing for most methinks, have you notice how quick the thumbs down comes in as soon as we post anything, I detect some skulduggery afoot, lol. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

9:20pm Wed 26 Mar 14

ghk230473 says...

Ossie, you'd be surprised how many footballers, some international that do smoke. Not 20 a day but here n there, they say it helps with fitness by keeping weight off! Serious.
Can't really comment on the 2 narks snitching on their own as I wasn't there but I would imagine that it was football banter going a little ott. Racism is a funny thing. If white like I am you get called honky or limie, doesn't bother me. I think it's the intent that upsets.
Ossie, you'd be surprised how many footballers, some international that do smoke. Not 20 a day but here n there, they say it helps with fitness by keeping weight off! Serious. Can't really comment on the 2 narks snitching on their own as I wasn't there but I would imagine that it was football banter going a little ott. Racism is a funny thing. If white like I am you get called honky or limie, doesn't bother me. I think it's the intent that upsets. ghk230473
  • Score: 2

9:24pm Wed 26 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0)
Guess that you are happy, for once you have succeded in upsetting one of our better posters, bet you are feeling smug.
Hey Ospers. Don't think for one minute that I'm upset. I'm still chuckling in fact. As I've said many times before, I regard an insult from wum as a compliment. In fact it is true to say that nothing on this site upsets me. You have to pick out the interesting and informed from the downright stupid and I must admit that I can't resist responding to the stupid sometimes. Hence the amusing spat with this particular wum.
Not amusing for most methinks, have you notice how quick the thumbs down comes in as soon as we post anything, I detect some skulduggery afoot, lol.
its almost as if the same wum has different login names and has realised that if you use a pc to click thumbs down you can then vote again on your phone (smart phone i wouldn't expect you to understand ospers ;0) ) and then again on a tablet (no not Paracetamol ospers). 2/3 names and he/she/it can vote 9 times or more.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0)[/p][/quote]Guess that you are happy, for once you have succeded in upsetting one of our better posters, bet you are feeling smug.[/p][/quote]Hey Ospers. Don't think for one minute that I'm upset. I'm still chuckling in fact. As I've said many times before, I regard an insult from wum as a compliment. In fact it is true to say that nothing on this site upsets me. You have to pick out the interesting and informed from the downright stupid and I must admit that I can't resist responding to the stupid sometimes. Hence the amusing spat with this particular wum.[/p][/quote]Not amusing for most methinks, have you notice how quick the thumbs down comes in as soon as we post anything, I detect some skulduggery afoot, lol.[/p][/quote]its almost as if the same wum has different login names and has realised that if you use a pc to click thumbs down you can then vote again on your phone (smart phone i wouldn't expect you to understand ospers ;0) ) and then again on a tablet (no not Paracetamol ospers). 2/3 names and he/she/it can vote 9 times or more. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

9:28pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Clever Dick says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0)
Guess that you are happy, for once you have succeded in upsetting one of our better posters, bet you are feeling smug.
Hey Ospers. Don't think for one minute that I'm upset. I'm still chuckling in fact. As I've said many times before, I regard an insult from wum as a compliment. In fact it is true to say that nothing on this site upsets me. You have to pick out the interesting and informed from the downright stupid and I must admit that I can't resist responding to the stupid sometimes. Hence the amusing spat with this particular wum.
Not amusing for most methinks, have you notice how quick the thumbs down comes in as soon as we post anything, I detect some skulduggery afoot, lol.
Yeah I know. It's sooooo obvious isn't it. Again though it's not something that bothers me. I never give thumbs up or down to any post. If the wums want to spend hours posting thumbs down it just confirms their stupidity. The whole system is flawed and that's why I don't bother.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0)[/p][/quote]Guess that you are happy, for once you have succeded in upsetting one of our better posters, bet you are feeling smug.[/p][/quote]Hey Ospers. Don't think for one minute that I'm upset. I'm still chuckling in fact. As I've said many times before, I regard an insult from wum as a compliment. In fact it is true to say that nothing on this site upsets me. You have to pick out the interesting and informed from the downright stupid and I must admit that I can't resist responding to the stupid sometimes. Hence the amusing spat with this particular wum.[/p][/quote]Not amusing for most methinks, have you notice how quick the thumbs down comes in as soon as we post anything, I detect some skulduggery afoot, lol.[/p][/quote]Yeah I know. It's sooooo obvious isn't it. Again though it's not something that bothers me. I never give thumbs up or down to any post. If the wums want to spend hours posting thumbs down it just confirms their stupidity. The whole system is flawed and that's why I don't bother. Clever Dick
  • Score: 5

9:28pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Ossie, you'd be surprised how many footballers, some international that do smoke. Not 20 a day but here n there, they say it helps with fitness by keeping weight off! Serious.
Can't really comment on the 2 narks snitching on their own as I wasn't there but I would imagine that it was football banter going a little ott. Racism is a funny thing. If white like I am you get called honky or limie, doesn't bother me. I think it's the intent that upsets.
This, I think was the usual 'yid' thing, the League take a dim view of any use of it, it isn't neccessary and a bit old hat, but upsetting for some, none the less. As for grassing it rather depends on the crime I guess, sometimes things have to be said to prevent a repeat offence, it sometimes benefits the person involved. Honour among thieves? I don't think so.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Ossie, you'd be surprised how many footballers, some international that do smoke. Not 20 a day but here n there, they say it helps with fitness by keeping weight off! Serious. Can't really comment on the 2 narks snitching on their own as I wasn't there but I would imagine that it was football banter going a little ott. Racism is a funny thing. If white like I am you get called honky or limie, doesn't bother me. I think it's the intent that upsets.[/p][/quote]This, I think was the usual 'yid' thing, the League take a dim view of any use of it, it isn't neccessary and a bit old hat, but upsetting for some, none the less. As for grassing it rather depends on the crime I guess, sometimes things have to be said to prevent a repeat offence, it sometimes benefits the person involved. Honour among thieves? I don't think so. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

9:32pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Sunderland pulled a goal back Ki. Not a great performance by scouse.
Sunderland pulled a goal back Ki. Not a great performance by scouse. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

9:38pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0)
Guess that you are happy, for once you have succeded in upsetting one of our better posters, bet you are feeling smug.
Hey Ospers. Don't think for one minute that I'm upset. I'm still chuckling in fact. As I've said many times before, I regard an insult from wum as a compliment. In fact it is true to say that nothing on this site upsets me. You have to pick out the interesting and informed from the downright stupid and I must admit that I can't resist responding to the stupid sometimes. Hence the amusing spat with this particular wum.
Not amusing for most methinks, have you notice how quick the thumbs down comes in as soon as we post anything, I detect some skulduggery afoot, lol.
its almost as if the same wum has different login names and has realised that if you use a pc to click thumbs down you can then vote again on your phone (smart phone i wouldn't expect you to understand ospers ;0) ) and then again on a tablet (no not Paracetamol ospers). 2/3 names and he/she/it can vote 9 times or more.
Yes, indeed but what is the point? It's also daft that each time you sign on, you can thumbs up or down your own post to nullify the thumbs up or downs, it's amusing for small minds, but except on those occasions that someone gets minus umpteen when it is obvious the post is disliked, it is is a bit of a waste of time.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: It seems like Dick has got himself upset :0)[/p][/quote]Guess that you are happy, for once you have succeded in upsetting one of our better posters, bet you are feeling smug.[/p][/quote]Hey Ospers. Don't think for one minute that I'm upset. I'm still chuckling in fact. As I've said many times before, I regard an insult from wum as a compliment. In fact it is true to say that nothing on this site upsets me. You have to pick out the interesting and informed from the downright stupid and I must admit that I can't resist responding to the stupid sometimes. Hence the amusing spat with this particular wum.[/p][/quote]Not amusing for most methinks, have you notice how quick the thumbs down comes in as soon as we post anything, I detect some skulduggery afoot, lol.[/p][/quote]its almost as if the same wum has different login names and has realised that if you use a pc to click thumbs down you can then vote again on your phone (smart phone i wouldn't expect you to understand ospers ;0) ) and then again on a tablet (no not Paracetamol ospers). 2/3 names and he/she/it can vote 9 times or more.[/p][/quote]Yes, indeed but what is the point? It's also daft that each time you sign on, you can thumbs up or down your own post to nullify the thumbs up or downs, it's amusing for small minds, but except on those occasions that someone gets minus umpteen when it is obvious the post is disliked, it is is a bit of a waste of time. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

9:41pm Wed 26 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

if your feeling depressed at the moment and need cheering up then go over to the fews site and read the comments from the fishy few about their superb manager Mr Barker, you could almost believe that they don't like or even rate him.
seriously its really funny, they have turned on the board and it wont be long until they turn on the owners....oooppps.
the split in the fan base is unbelievable about 4 don't like the truss whilst the other 3 do!
WTFILN!!!!!!!!
if your feeling depressed at the moment and need cheering up then go over to the fews site and read the comments from the fishy few about their superb manager Mr Barker, you could almost believe that they don't like or even rate him. seriously its really funny, they have turned on the board and it wont be long until they turn on the owners....oooppps. the split in the fan base is unbelievable about 4 don't like the truss whilst the other 3 do! WTFILN!!!!!!!! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 1

9:42pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Hammers won 2 1, Hull a bit unlucky by all accounts.
Hammers won 2 1, Hull a bit unlucky by all accounts. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

9:49pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Ossie, you'd be surprised how many footballers, some international that do smoke. Not 20 a day but here n there, they say it helps with fitness by keeping weight off! Serious.
Can't really comment on the 2 narks snitching on their own as I wasn't there but I would imagine that it was football banter going a little ott. Racism is a funny thing. If white like I am you get called honky or limie, doesn't bother me. I think it's the intent that upsets.
Can you imagine SRL sat in a comfy armchair puffing away at a Merschaum!
Scouse scraped in 2 1 ft.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Ossie, you'd be surprised how many footballers, some international that do smoke. Not 20 a day but here n there, they say it helps with fitness by keeping weight off! Serious. Can't really comment on the 2 narks snitching on their own as I wasn't there but I would imagine that it was football banter going a little ott. Racism is a funny thing. If white like I am you get called honky or limie, doesn't bother me. I think it's the intent that upsets.[/p][/quote]Can you imagine SRL sat in a comfy armchair puffing away at a Merschaum! Scouse scraped in 2 1 ft. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

9:58pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Dan Seaborne scored the winner for Coventry against Stevenage tonight.
Dan Seaborne scored the winner for Coventry against Stevenage tonight. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

9:59pm Wed 26 Mar 14

arfer phesache says...

jrod11 wrote:
So glad Dick is not too upset as he obviously shows himself up on a regular basis... Respect to you Dick.
He might be Clever Dick.
but you sound like a proper Dick !
[quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: So glad Dick is not too upset as he obviously shows himself up on a regular basis... Respect to you Dick.[/p][/quote]He might be Clever Dick. but you sound like a proper Dick ! arfer phesache
  • Score: 3

10:00pm Wed 26 Mar 14

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Ossie, you'd be surprised how many footballers, some international that do smoke. Not 20 a day but here n there, they say it helps with fitness by keeping weight off! Serious.
Can't really comment on the 2 narks snitching on their own as I wasn't there but I would imagine that it was football banter going a little ott. Racism is a funny thing. If white like I am you get called honky or limie, doesn't bother me. I think it's the intent that upsets.
Can you imagine SRL sat in a comfy armchair puffing away at a Merschaum!
Scouse scraped in 2 1 ft.
Double e ossie! And how did you know! ;-)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Ossie, you'd be surprised how many footballers, some international that do smoke. Not 20 a day but here n there, they say it helps with fitness by keeping weight off! Serious. Can't really comment on the 2 narks snitching on their own as I wasn't there but I would imagine that it was football banter going a little ott. Racism is a funny thing. If white like I am you get called honky or limie, doesn't bother me. I think it's the intent that upsets.[/p][/quote]Can you imagine SRL sat in a comfy armchair puffing away at a Merschaum! Scouse scraped in 2 1 ft.[/p][/quote]Double e ossie! And how did you know! ;-) ghk230473
  • Score: -3

10:05pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Ossie, you'd be surprised how many footballers, some international that do smoke. Not 20 a day but here n there, they say it helps with fitness by keeping weight off! Serious.
Can't really comment on the 2 narks snitching on their own as I wasn't there but I would imagine that it was football banter going a little ott. Racism is a funny thing. If white like I am you get called honky or limie, doesn't bother me. I think it's the intent that upsets.
Can you imagine SRL sat in a comfy armchair puffing away at a Merschaum!
Scouse scraped in 2 1 ft.
Double e ossie! And how did you know! ;-)
That's the 2nd e that's gone awol tonight, one disappeared when I typed succeeded!
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Ossie, you'd be surprised how many footballers, some international that do smoke. Not 20 a day but here n there, they say it helps with fitness by keeping weight off! Serious. Can't really comment on the 2 narks snitching on their own as I wasn't there but I would imagine that it was football banter going a little ott. Racism is a funny thing. If white like I am you get called honky or limie, doesn't bother me. I think it's the intent that upsets.[/p][/quote]Can you imagine SRL sat in a comfy armchair puffing away at a Merschaum! Scouse scraped in 2 1 ft.[/p][/quote]Double e ossie! And how did you know! ;-)[/p][/quote]That's the 2nd e that's gone awol tonight, one disappeared when I typed succeeded! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

10:46pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Jon Forte says...

Typically poor Echo reporting. I am nearly back to full fitness, and once i am, ill be back in the squad challenging for a start. Watch this space saints fans, and thanks for your continued support.
Typically poor Echo reporting. I am nearly back to full fitness, and once i am, ill be back in the squad challenging for a start. Watch this space saints fans, and thanks for your continued support. Jon Forte
  • Score: 3

10:58pm Wed 26 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Jon Forte wrote:
Typically poor Echo reporting. I am nearly back to full fitness, and once i am, ill be back in the squad challenging for a start. Watch this space saints fans, and thanks for your continued support.
Had the bionic implant yet, it didn't seem to work on Guly?
[quote][p][bold]Jon Forte[/bold] wrote: Typically poor Echo reporting. I am nearly back to full fitness, and once i am, ill be back in the squad challenging for a start. Watch this space saints fans, and thanks for your continued support.[/p][/quote]Had the bionic implant yet, it didn't seem to work on Guly? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

11:20pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Clever Dick says...

Jon Forte wrote:
Typically poor Echo reporting. I am nearly back to full fitness, and once i am, ill be back in the squad challenging for a start. Watch this space saints fans, and thanks for your continued support.
Hi Jon. Enjoy your new club. Would you consider playing in the Conference? I know it's even lower than the bargain basement but you might not have to move home.
[quote][p][bold]Jon Forte[/bold] wrote: Typically poor Echo reporting. I am nearly back to full fitness, and once i am, ill be back in the squad challenging for a start. Watch this space saints fans, and thanks for your continued support.[/p][/quote]Hi Jon. Enjoy your new club. Would you consider playing in the Conference? I know it's even lower than the bargain basement but you might not have to move home. Clever Dick
  • Score: 0

5:01am Thu 27 Mar 14

Rising_Son says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Ossie, you'd be surprised how many footballers, some international that do smoke. Not 20 a day but here n there, they say it helps with fitness by keeping weight off! Serious.
Can't really comment on the 2 narks snitching on their own as I wasn't there but I would imagine that it was football banter going a little ott. Racism is a funny thing. If white like I am you get called honky or limie, doesn't bother me. I think it's the intent that upsets.
This, I think was the usual 'yid' thing, the League take a dim view of any use of it, it isn't neccessary and a bit old hat, but upsetting for some, none the less. As for grassing it rather depends on the crime I guess, sometimes things have to be said to prevent a repeat offence, it sometimes benefits the person involved. Honour among thieves? I don't think so.
It seems it wasn't "the usual 'yid' thing". (http://tottenhamhot
spur.blogspot.jp/201
4/03/the-anti-semeti
c-saint-was-surprise
.html)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Ossie, you'd be surprised how many footballers, some international that do smoke. Not 20 a day but here n there, they say it helps with fitness by keeping weight off! Serious. Can't really comment on the 2 narks snitching on their own as I wasn't there but I would imagine that it was football banter going a little ott. Racism is a funny thing. If white like I am you get called honky or limie, doesn't bother me. I think it's the intent that upsets.[/p][/quote]This, I think was the usual 'yid' thing, the League take a dim view of any use of it, it isn't neccessary and a bit old hat, but upsetting for some, none the less. As for grassing it rather depends on the crime I guess, sometimes things have to be said to prevent a repeat offence, it sometimes benefits the person involved. Honour among thieves? I don't think so.[/p][/quote]It seems it wasn't "the usual 'yid' thing". (http://tottenhamhot spur.blogspot.jp/201 4/03/the-anti-semeti c-saint-was-surprise .html) Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

9:30am Thu 27 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Ossie, you'd be surprised how many footballers, some international that do smoke. Not 20 a day but here n there, they say it helps with fitness by keeping weight off! Serious.
Can't really comment on the 2 narks snitching on their own as I wasn't there but I would imagine that it was football banter going a little ott. Racism is a funny thing. If white like I am you get called honky or limie, doesn't bother me. I think it's the intent that upsets.
This, I think was the usual 'yid' thing, the League take a dim view of any use of it, it isn't neccessary and a bit old hat, but upsetting for some, none the less. As for grassing it rather depends on the crime I guess, sometimes things have to be said to prevent a repeat offence, it sometimes benefits the person involved. Honour among thieves? I don't think so.
It seems it wasn't "the usual 'yid' thing". (http://tottenhamhot

spur.blogspot.jp/201

4/03/the-anti-semeti

c-saint-was-surprise

.html)
That is odd as every other paper seemed to hint that it was anti-Semitism involved, we will probably find out on May 19th when the case comes up.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Ossie, you'd be surprised how many footballers, some international that do smoke. Not 20 a day but here n there, they say it helps with fitness by keeping weight off! Serious. Can't really comment on the 2 narks snitching on their own as I wasn't there but I would imagine that it was football banter going a little ott. Racism is a funny thing. If white like I am you get called honky or limie, doesn't bother me. I think it's the intent that upsets.[/p][/quote]This, I think was the usual 'yid' thing, the League take a dim view of any use of it, it isn't neccessary and a bit old hat, but upsetting for some, none the less. As for grassing it rather depends on the crime I guess, sometimes things have to be said to prevent a repeat offence, it sometimes benefits the person involved. Honour among thieves? I don't think so.[/p][/quote]It seems it wasn't "the usual 'yid' thing". (http://tottenhamhot spur.blogspot.jp/201 4/03/the-anti-semeti c-saint-was-surprise .html)[/p][/quote]That is odd as every other paper seemed to hint that it was anti-Semitism involved, we will probably find out on May 19th when the case comes up. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

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