Extra goal ace appeals to fans

Jay Rodriguez

Jay Rodriguez

First published in Sport Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Chief Sports Writer

Unforeseen events can shake even the greatest plans.

Mauricio Pochettino and the Saints scouting network will have been working away for months headhunting potential summer recruits.

A club the size of Saints has spies everywhere, and, when the manager outlines where he wishes to strengthen, they get to work.

Not only are potential targets watched and reported on many times, but background checks on them take place to ensure they are the sort of character the club wants at that particular time.

Of course, their likely availability and cost also need to be assessed.

Pochettino will no doubt have had enough of a list of priority positions to fill his mind, and the chances are that it hasn’t differed that much from the fans.

It’s generally not that hard to see where a football team needs strengthening, where a squad is thin on numbers.

Pochettino has in recent weeks made several remarks about his squad being light in numbers and, though he prefers small and compact to having a multitude of options, many of whom won’t play, maybe he is getting a little frustrated at how things have gone.

Back in January a poll on dailyecho.co.uk showed that fans wanted a goalkeeper to be signed in the window, with a centre half not far behind. A striker trailed in third place.

Fast forward only a handful of months and the latest incarnation of basically the same vote has yielded very different results.

Now the clear priority is a striker, with a goalkeeper and defender tucked in behind.

It’s an astute observation and comment on what has happened at Saints in the intervening period.

Back in January the main argument for adding a striker would almost certainly have been to get a little extra pace into the side rather than because of a lack of options.

Obviously a larger number of people felt that a goalkeeper and a centre half were more important, but there had been recent injuries to Jose Fonte as well as Artur Boruc.

Fast forward to today and, with the first choice centre half pairing in tandem, even with only Jos Hooiveld as cover with Maya Yoshida injured, that area has slipped down the wish list.

Even a goalkeeper, with both Boruc and Kelvin Davis out right now too, isn’t seen as the number one priority.

Scoring goals is really what football is all about, especially when you are as attack minded as Saints.

Since January things have changed.

Firstly, Dani Osvaldo departed after his training ground bust up. That move came too late to realistically enable any cover to be brought in.

Secondly, and more significantly, the injury to Jay Rodriguez feels like a game changer.

Rodriguez has been superb for Saints this season. He is their top scorer and has provided such a constant threat, not to mention goals.

Though everybody hopes for a blistering return as soon as possible, at this stage there can only be uncertainty as to when he will be able to return to the first team, and exactly what sort of player he will be at that point. Even with the best medical care out there, a torn cruciate ligament is not the kind of thing you quickly bounce back from. It is a long and arduous process, full of highs and lows.

There is a very real prospect that, given he will try and re-enter the team during the season, he won’t be fully up and running at 100 per cent match sharpness until the Christmas and new year period, and even that is assuming a smooth rehabilitation process.

With that in mind it’s hard to see that Saints can really just wait for him to return.

The back end of this season, to be blunt, doesn’t really matter. Saints are where they are and that isn’t going to change much with or without Rodriguez. But for him to miss half a season is a different story altogether.

There is of course time for Gaston Ramirez or Sam Gallagher to prove they can replace Rodriguez, but neither are the same sort of player, so Saints will need to adapt their style or buy a direct replacement.

Certainly the numbers in that area look a little thin.

If you look at those three attack minded forwards in behind Rickie Lambert there is Adam Lallana, Rodriguez and Ramirez as real threats – Guly do Prado falls into that category as well but he is out of contract in the summer – while Steven Davis and James Ward-Prowse have been excellent and are more there to bring the extra balance required.

Gallagher could maybe be reshaped for a Rodriguez style role but is a more natural like for like for Lambert and is the only real cover now for the big man as it was a position Rodriguez could also step into.

Obviously finances will also dictate. Buying good attacking players is an expensive business, but Saints look as though they may need to spend now.

The results of the poll look quite fair, even though it might mean a rethink for Pochettino and his staff for it to be accomodated.

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7:04am Tue 15 Apr 14

iow-is-red-and-white says...

Completely pointless article this isn't news DE find something constructive for this reporter to do
Completely pointless article this isn't news DE find something constructive for this reporter to do iow-is-red-and-white
  • Score: -9

7:16am Tue 15 Apr 14

Chipster says...

iow-is-red-and-white wrote:
Completely pointless article this isn't news DE find something constructive for this reporter to do
Tell us something new, it's as rare as rocking-horse sh!t that the Echo ever try and be positive about SFC! It's usually a cut and paste job from one of the nationals and always with a negative bias, one reason why NC banned them for sh!t-stirring!
No wonder it's nearly going out of business with such dire reporting and circulation!
[quote][p][bold]iow-is-red-and-white[/bold] wrote: Completely pointless article this isn't news DE find something constructive for this reporter to do[/p][/quote]Tell us something new, it's as rare as rocking-horse sh!t that the Echo ever try and be positive about SFC! It's usually a cut and paste job from one of the nationals and always with a negative bias, one reason why NC banned them for sh!t-stirring! No wonder it's nearly going out of business with such dire reporting and circulation! Chipster
  • Score: -16

7:30am Tue 15 Apr 14

Saintsteve7 says...

He's going to be very difficult to replace. There teally aren't too many J Rods about, what he gives you is a goal threat and work rate from a wide left position, similar to Welbeck at Utd but better!
Not many strikers can be converted into this type of player and likewise not many wingers can provide that much of a goal threat.
The scouting network will have done an anazing job if they manage to find a like for like replacement that fits our budget that's for sure.
He's going to be very difficult to replace. There teally aren't too many J Rods about, what he gives you is a goal threat and work rate from a wide left position, similar to Welbeck at Utd but better! Not many strikers can be converted into this type of player and likewise not many wingers can provide that much of a goal threat. The scouting network will have done an anazing job if they manage to find a like for like replacement that fits our budget that's for sure. Saintsteve7
  • Score: 14

8:16am Tue 15 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

Saintsteve7 wrote:
He's going to be very difficult to replace. There teally aren't too many J Rods about, what he gives you is a goal threat and work rate from a wide left position, similar to Welbeck at Utd but better!
Not many strikers can be converted into this type of player and likewise not many wingers can provide that much of a goal threat.
The scouting network will have done an anazing job if they manage to find a like for like replacement that fits our budget that's for sure.
Do we really need a like for like replacement? Rodriguez will I am sure be back. Perhaps what we need is someone who offers us something a bit different but can play instead of Rodriguez when necessary and is also able to complement him when they play together. I haven't got a clue who might fill the bill though.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsteve7[/bold] wrote: He's going to be very difficult to replace. There teally aren't too many J Rods about, what he gives you is a goal threat and work rate from a wide left position, similar to Welbeck at Utd but better! Not many strikers can be converted into this type of player and likewise not many wingers can provide that much of a goal threat. The scouting network will have done an anazing job if they manage to find a like for like replacement that fits our budget that's for sure.[/p][/quote]Do we really need a like for like replacement? Rodriguez will I am sure be back. Perhaps what we need is someone who offers us something a bit different but can play instead of Rodriguez when necessary and is also able to complement him when they play together. I haven't got a clue who might fill the bill though. Rising_Son
  • Score: 6

8:29am Tue 15 Apr 14

Saintsayer II says...

With no idea of the budget it's difficult to say who we could get
Striker wise Lakaku or Hernandez wouldnt be a bad start
A CB that impressed me this year was Shawcross at Stoke
Several keepers maybe available depending on who gets promoted or relegated Ruddy El Absi etc

PS who ever did the backroom checks on DO should get a boot up the bum
With no idea of the budget it's difficult to say who we could get Striker wise Lakaku or Hernandez wouldnt be a bad start A CB that impressed me this year was Shawcross at Stoke Several keepers maybe available depending on who gets promoted or relegated Ruddy El Absi etc PS who ever did the backroom checks on DO should get a boot up the bum Saintsayer II
  • Score: 9

8:38am Tue 15 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

So the 26 man team in the bunker at Staplewood, beaver away day and night analysing every move, every pass, every infinite detail of every player in Europe. Painstakingly building a database of exacting proportions, covering not only skill and fitness but diet and behavioural patterns. Hobbies, friends and family are scrutinised to psychologically assess each and every individual.

And they came up with Forren and Osvaldo? Jeez....
So the 26 man team in the bunker at Staplewood, beaver away day and night analysing every move, every pass, every infinite detail of every player in Europe. Painstakingly building a database of exacting proportions, covering not only skill and fitness but diet and behavioural patterns. Hobbies, friends and family are scrutinised to psychologically assess each and every individual. And they came up with Forren and Osvaldo? Jeez.... Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 21

9:05am Tue 15 Apr 14

St.Yorkie says...

Hernandez at United is a good shout!
Hernandez at United is a good shout! St.Yorkie
  • Score: 5

9:23am Tue 15 Apr 14

george chivers says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
So the 26 man team in the bunker at Staplewood, beaver away day and night analysing every move, every pass, every infinite detail of every player in Europe. Painstakingly building a database of exacting proportions, covering not only skill and fitness but diet and behavioural patterns. Hobbies, friends and family are scrutinised to psychologically assess each and every individual.

And they came up with Forren and Osvaldo? Jeez....
I think Osvaldo might have been in the database in MOPO's head.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: So the 26 man team in the bunker at Staplewood, beaver away day and night analysing every move, every pass, every infinite detail of every player in Europe. Painstakingly building a database of exacting proportions, covering not only skill and fitness but diet and behavioural patterns. Hobbies, friends and family are scrutinised to psychologically assess each and every individual. And they came up with Forren and Osvaldo? Jeez....[/p][/quote]I think Osvaldo might have been in the database in MOPO's head. george chivers
  • Score: 8

9:25am Tue 15 Apr 14

Confucious says...

My target list is complete but is awaiting the board's injection of £200m, MoPo's signing of a new contract, the confirmation of the target world class players' availability by their agents and work permit clearance etc - and of course, the announcement of the retention of all our key current players.

Given how wonderful my list of new signings is, the current uncertainties are very frustrating indeed.
My target list is complete but is awaiting the board's injection of £200m, MoPo's signing of a new contract, the confirmation of the target world class players' availability by their agents and work permit clearance etc - and of course, the announcement of the retention of all our key current players. Given how wonderful my list of new signings is, the current uncertainties are very frustrating indeed. Confucious
  • Score: 6

9:26am Tue 15 Apr 14

justaSaintsfan says...

It's hardly rocket science to see the areas where Saints need to strengthen this summer. We all know, including Katharina, Mauricio, Ralph and the other board members. They are the people who will ensure players are bought in and the right players leave the club and are thanked for their contribution.

Southampton FC is in calm, safe hands. All we fans need to do is continue to trust and wait and see.

Many Saints fans have very short memories. I can recall many past seasons when Saints have been struggling to stay in the Premier League at this point in the season.

We know already that we shall have Premiership football in Southampton next season. We know that Saints academy continues to produce future stars. We know that the club does not intend selling its best players.

I reckon we Saints fans can be quietly confident that the squad will be strengthened this summer.

There is therefore only one thing to say to the moaners and negative thinkers about Saints . . . . . . . HAVE SOME TRUST!!!

Onward and upward the Southampton Way!!!
It's hardly rocket science to see the areas where Saints need to strengthen this summer. We all know, including Katharina, Mauricio, Ralph and the other board members. They are the people who will ensure players are bought in and the right players leave the club and are thanked for their contribution. Southampton FC is in calm, safe hands. All we fans need to do is continue to trust and wait and see. Many Saints fans have very short memories. I can recall many past seasons when Saints have been struggling to stay in the Premier League at this point in the season. We know already that we shall have Premiership football in Southampton next season. We know that Saints academy continues to produce future stars. We know that the club does not intend selling its best players. I reckon we Saints fans can be quietly confident that the squad will be strengthened this summer. There is therefore only one thing to say to the moaners and negative thinkers about Saints . . . . . . . HAVE SOME TRUST!!! Onward and upward the Southampton Way!!! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 18

9:30am Tue 15 Apr 14

george chivers says...

It's interesting the article says Rodriguez has a torn ACL. usually they snap and have to be replaced with a hamstring or a sliver of bone from the knee cap. Perhaps he will make a quicker recovery it is just a question of mending it with micro stitches rather than a full replacement with alternative tissue?
It's interesting the article says Rodriguez has a torn ACL. usually they snap and have to be replaced with a hamstring or a sliver of bone from the knee cap. Perhaps he will make a quicker recovery it is just a question of mending it with micro stitches rather than a full replacement with alternative tissue? george chivers
  • Score: 4

9:41am Tue 15 Apr 14

warrens 76 says...

george chivers wrote:
It's interesting the article says Rodriguez has a torn ACL. usually they snap and have to be replaced with a hamstring or a sliver of bone from the knee cap. Perhaps he will make a quicker recovery it is just a question of mending it with micro stitches rather than a full replacement with alternative tissue?
I lost ACL and PCl and Medial my leg was hanging on by the skin!¨
you are quite right about reconstruction using other body parts..micro stitches will not work because there is no blood supply to the ligament only the connector pints.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: It's interesting the article says Rodriguez has a torn ACL. usually they snap and have to be replaced with a hamstring or a sliver of bone from the knee cap. Perhaps he will make a quicker recovery it is just a question of mending it with micro stitches rather than a full replacement with alternative tissue?[/p][/quote]I lost ACL and PCl and Medial my leg was hanging on by the skin!¨ you are quite right about reconstruction using other body parts..micro stitches will not work because there is no blood supply to the ligament only the connector pints. warrens 76
  • Score: 8

10:23am Tue 15 Apr 14

george chivers says...

warrens 76 wrote:
george chivers wrote:
It's interesting the article says Rodriguez has a torn ACL. usually they snap and have to be replaced with a hamstring or a sliver of bone from the knee cap. Perhaps he will make a quicker recovery it is just a question of mending it with micro stitches rather than a full replacement with alternative tissue?
I lost ACL and PCl and Medial my leg was hanging on by the skin!¨
you are quite right about reconstruction using other body parts..micro stitches will not work because there is no blood supply to the ligament only the connector pints.
So does that mean they will have to replace it anyway?
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: It's interesting the article says Rodriguez has a torn ACL. usually they snap and have to be replaced with a hamstring or a sliver of bone from the knee cap. Perhaps he will make a quicker recovery it is just a question of mending it with micro stitches rather than a full replacement with alternative tissue?[/p][/quote]I lost ACL and PCl and Medial my leg was hanging on by the skin!¨ you are quite right about reconstruction using other body parts..micro stitches will not work because there is no blood supply to the ligament only the connector pints.[/p][/quote]So does that mean they will have to replace it anyway? george chivers
  • Score: 2

10:52am Tue 15 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
So the 26 man team in the bunker at Staplewood, beaver away day and night analysing every move, every pass, every infinite detail of every player in Europe. Painstakingly building a database of exacting proportions, covering not only skill and fitness but diet and behavioural patterns. Hobbies, friends and family are scrutinised to psychologically assess each and every individual.

And they came up with Forren and Osvaldo? Jeez....
Osvaldo was a MP buy, he thought that he was the player that we needed to step up a level. MP cant be blamed though for his unwillingness to even try to fit in or play. MP knew what he was getting but must have thought he would be able to `tame` him. it didn't work out and for that I completely blame Osvaldo!
Forren is an interesting one though, he came in on the same day as MP. MP said he wasn't his signing, adkins said he didn't know about him. so who brought him in? was it NC or les reed? I don't think we will ever know what happened there.
The backroom staff are though responsible for the signing of Dejan, who I still think is one of the best CB`s in the league and a bargain at £8mill, and Big Vic who was a star until his injury.
others that haven't worked out include mayuka, is he coming back to the team? he certainly has pace and could have been a ready made replacement for J-rod, not sure if he is good enough though and it was a strange decision to loan him out for the entire season.
it doesn't look like guly will be given a new contract, though he still could be, and will be free to leave in the summer, but unlike some I wouldn't want to see hoover follow him. CB is a position where we are already light and where suspensions and injuries are very common. we need to have at least 5 CB`s and if Hoover goes we would need to buy 2 replacements, are there any prospects from the academy that could make the step up?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: So the 26 man team in the bunker at Staplewood, beaver away day and night analysing every move, every pass, every infinite detail of every player in Europe. Painstakingly building a database of exacting proportions, covering not only skill and fitness but diet and behavioural patterns. Hobbies, friends and family are scrutinised to psychologically assess each and every individual. And they came up with Forren and Osvaldo? Jeez....[/p][/quote]Osvaldo was a MP buy, he thought that he was the player that we needed to step up a level. MP cant be blamed though for his unwillingness to even try to fit in or play. MP knew what he was getting but must have thought he would be able to `tame` him. it didn't work out and for that I completely blame Osvaldo! Forren is an interesting one though, he came in on the same day as MP. MP said he wasn't his signing, adkins said he didn't know about him. so who brought him in? was it NC or les reed? I don't think we will ever know what happened there. The backroom staff are though responsible for the signing of Dejan, who I still think is one of the best CB`s in the league and a bargain at £8mill, and Big Vic who was a star until his injury. others that haven't worked out include mayuka, is he coming back to the team? he certainly has pace and could have been a ready made replacement for J-rod, not sure if he is good enough though and it was a strange decision to loan him out for the entire season. it doesn't look like guly will be given a new contract, though he still could be, and will be free to leave in the summer, but unlike some I wouldn't want to see hoover follow him. CB is a position where we are already light and where suspensions and injuries are very common. we need to have at least 5 CB`s and if Hoover goes we would need to buy 2 replacements, are there any prospects from the academy that could make the step up? el caballo santos101
  • Score: 6

10:59am Tue 15 Apr 14

Beer Monster says...

Whilst I agree that we need a goal poacher to knock in all those chances that we create, the thing that Saints need is a quality Business Analyst who would have the clubs best interests at heart and be looking for a long term career on the south coast...

I can only try :)
Whilst I agree that we need a goal poacher to knock in all those chances that we create, the thing that Saints need is a quality Business Analyst who would have the clubs best interests at heart and be looking for a long term career on the south coast... I can only try :) Beer Monster
  • Score: 3

11:31am Tue 15 Apr 14

Buddy SFC says...

Simple ...... The recent history has told us stay in England and look at developing English talent that will it in seamlessly with what is a very strong and well bonded unit !

MoPo is the most important signing but after that Danny Ings would seem to me ideal ?????
Simple ...... The recent history has told us stay in England and look at developing English talent that will it in seamlessly with what is a very strong and well bonded unit ! MoPo is the most important signing but after that Danny Ings would seem to me ideal ????? Buddy SFC
  • Score: 2

11:54am Tue 15 Apr 14

Saintsayer II says...

Confucious wrote:
My target list is complete but is awaiting the board's injection of £200m, MoPo's signing of a new contract, the confirmation of the target world class players' availability by their agents and work permit clearance etc - and of course, the announcement of the retention of all our key current players.

Given how wonderful my list of new signings is, the current uncertainties are very frustrating indeed.
Surely we must wait to see which team (Brazil) wins the World Cup The intention is to go and buy it en bloc isn't it
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: My target list is complete but is awaiting the board's injection of £200m, MoPo's signing of a new contract, the confirmation of the target world class players' availability by their agents and work permit clearance etc - and of course, the announcement of the retention of all our key current players. Given how wonderful my list of new signings is, the current uncertainties are very frustrating indeed.[/p][/quote]Surely we must wait to see which team (Brazil) wins the World Cup The intention is to go and buy it en bloc isn't it Saintsayer II
  • Score: 2

11:59am Tue 15 Apr 14

Saintsayer II says...

warrens 76 wrote:
george chivers wrote:
It's interesting the article says Rodriguez has a torn ACL. usually they snap and have to be replaced with a hamstring or a sliver of bone from the knee cap. Perhaps he will make a quicker recovery it is just a question of mending it with micro stitches rather than a full replacement with alternative tissue?
I lost ACL and PCl and Medial my leg was hanging on by the skin!¨
you are quite right about reconstruction using other body parts..micro stitches will not work because there is no blood supply to the ligament only the connector pints.
They repaired mine with carbon fibre
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: It's interesting the article says Rodriguez has a torn ACL. usually they snap and have to be replaced with a hamstring or a sliver of bone from the knee cap. Perhaps he will make a quicker recovery it is just a question of mending it with micro stitches rather than a full replacement with alternative tissue?[/p][/quote]I lost ACL and PCl and Medial my leg was hanging on by the skin!¨ you are quite right about reconstruction using other body parts..micro stitches will not work because there is no blood supply to the ligament only the connector pints.[/p][/quote]They repaired mine with carbon fibre Saintsayer II
  • Score: 2

12:05pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Saintsayer II says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
So the 26 man team in the bunker at Staplewood, beaver away day and night analysing every move, every pass, every infinite detail of every player in Europe. Painstakingly building a database of exacting proportions, covering not only skill and fitness but diet and behavioural patterns. Hobbies, friends and family are scrutinised to psychologically assess each and every individual.

And they came up with Forren and Osvaldo? Jeez....
Osvaldo was a MP buy, he thought that he was the player that we needed to step up a level. MP cant be blamed though for his unwillingness to even try to fit in or play. MP knew what he was getting but must have thought he would be able to `tame` him. it didn't work out and for that I completely blame Osvaldo!
Forren is an interesting one though, he came in on the same day as MP. MP said he wasn't his signing, adkins said he didn't know about him. so who brought him in? was it NC or les reed? I don't think we will ever know what happened there.
The backroom staff are though responsible for the signing of Dejan, who I still think is one of the best CB`s in the league and a bargain at £8mill, and Big Vic who was a star until his injury.
others that haven't worked out include mayuka, is he coming back to the team? he certainly has pace and could have been a ready made replacement for J-rod, not sure if he is good enough though and it was a strange decision to loan him out for the entire season.
it doesn't look like guly will be given a new contract, though he still could be, and will be free to leave in the summer, but unlike some I wouldn't want to see hoover follow him. CB is a position where we are already light and where suspensions and injuries are very common. we need to have at least 5 CB`s and if Hoover goes we would need to buy 2 replacements, are there any prospects from the academy that could make the step up?
Could Chambers be an answer to our CB requirements ? he played there for the under 19's recently and did well according to the reports
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: So the 26 man team in the bunker at Staplewood, beaver away day and night analysing every move, every pass, every infinite detail of every player in Europe. Painstakingly building a database of exacting proportions, covering not only skill and fitness but diet and behavioural patterns. Hobbies, friends and family are scrutinised to psychologically assess each and every individual. And they came up with Forren and Osvaldo? Jeez....[/p][/quote]Osvaldo was a MP buy, he thought that he was the player that we needed to step up a level. MP cant be blamed though for his unwillingness to even try to fit in or play. MP knew what he was getting but must have thought he would be able to `tame` him. it didn't work out and for that I completely blame Osvaldo! Forren is an interesting one though, he came in on the same day as MP. MP said he wasn't his signing, adkins said he didn't know about him. so who brought him in? was it NC or les reed? I don't think we will ever know what happened there. The backroom staff are though responsible for the signing of Dejan, who I still think is one of the best CB`s in the league and a bargain at £8mill, and Big Vic who was a star until his injury. others that haven't worked out include mayuka, is he coming back to the team? he certainly has pace and could have been a ready made replacement for J-rod, not sure if he is good enough though and it was a strange decision to loan him out for the entire season. it doesn't look like guly will be given a new contract, though he still could be, and will be free to leave in the summer, but unlike some I wouldn't want to see hoover follow him. CB is a position where we are already light and where suspensions and injuries are very common. we need to have at least 5 CB`s and if Hoover goes we would need to buy 2 replacements, are there any prospects from the academy that could make the step up?[/p][/quote]Could Chambers be an answer to our CB requirements ? he played there for the under 19's recently and did well according to the reports Saintsayer II
  • Score: 2

1:47pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Saintcosser says...

Marshall the Cardiff keeper anyone?
Marshall the Cardiff keeper anyone? Saintcosser
  • Score: 12

2:30pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Costa Baz says...

george chivers wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
george chivers wrote: It's interesting the article says Rodriguez has a torn ACL. usually they snap and have to be replaced with a hamstring or a sliver of bone from the knee cap. Perhaps he will make a quicker recovery it is just a question of mending it with micro stitches rather than a full replacement with alternative tissue?
I lost ACL and PCl and Medial my leg was hanging on by the skin!¨ you are quite right about reconstruction using other body parts..micro stitches will not work because there is no blood supply to the ligament only the connector pints.
So does that mean they will have to replace it anyway?
I read an article that said they remove a strip of ligament and bone from the centre of patella ligament. Apparently this has no adverse affect on the knee.
The strip of ligament and bone is then used to replace the ACL, with the bone knitting together, giving it solidity.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: It's interesting the article says Rodriguez has a torn ACL. usually they snap and have to be replaced with a hamstring or a sliver of bone from the knee cap. Perhaps he will make a quicker recovery it is just a question of mending it with micro stitches rather than a full replacement with alternative tissue?[/p][/quote]I lost ACL and PCl and Medial my leg was hanging on by the skin!¨ you are quite right about reconstruction using other body parts..micro stitches will not work because there is no blood supply to the ligament only the connector pints.[/p][/quote]So does that mean they will have to replace it anyway?[/p][/quote]I read an article that said they remove a strip of ligament and bone from the centre of patella ligament. Apparently this has no adverse affect on the knee. The strip of ligament and bone is then used to replace the ACL, with the bone knitting together, giving it solidity. Costa Baz
  • Score: 1

2:35pm Tue 15 Apr 14

bathsaints says...

Another piece of brilliant journalism! NOT...the priorities haven't really changed...a striker, a goalkeeper and a centreback have been a need all season in whichever order that is. Lets hope we can keep hold of our best young players and invest sensibly in order to push on again for a top 6 finish in the next couple of years. I've said it before but I would take a punt on Micah Richard, English, still young but experienced can play centreback or right and looking to make a point I would suggest. Hard to speculate on forwards without knowing how much money we have to spend but certainly a strong powerful striker like lukaku or Benteke (if fit) who is proven scorer at premier level would be good, maybe a loan? and as for keepers well if Norwich or Cardiff go down then I would suggest Ruddy or Marshall fit the bill...anyway we can speculate all we like but lets enjoy the rest of the season and hope for a couple of big wins as we look to secure what will be a great eighth....
Another piece of brilliant journalism! NOT...the priorities haven't really changed...a striker, a goalkeeper and a centreback have been a need all season in whichever order that is. Lets hope we can keep hold of our best young players and invest sensibly in order to push on again for a top 6 finish in the next couple of years. I've said it before but I would take a punt on Micah Richard, English, still young but experienced can play centreback or right and looking to make a point I would suggest. Hard to speculate on forwards without knowing how much money we have to spend but certainly a strong powerful striker like lukaku or Benteke (if fit) who is proven scorer at premier level would be good, maybe a loan? and as for keepers well if Norwich or Cardiff go down then I would suggest Ruddy or Marshall fit the bill...anyway we can speculate all we like but lets enjoy the rest of the season and hope for a couple of big wins as we look to secure what will be a great eighth.... bathsaints
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2:40pm Tue 15 Apr 14

lowe esteem says...

As an 'attacking' team we know we need a better spread of goals throughout.
I really do expect us to get more goals from midfield and wing backs, and this can evolve next season as we learn to press higher up and grasp our chances- with both feet etc. Isn't Steven Davis our next highest scorer with 4?
Don't think there is a 'quick fix' player out there under £25M, but there are one or two that could come in and complement our system, so's to make subtle game changes. The ex Cherries at Burnley would be a good punt, and there are a number of good value goalkeepers around that don't wear boxing gloves.
As an 'attacking' team we know we need a better spread of goals throughout. I really do expect us to get more goals from midfield and wing backs, and this can evolve next season as we learn to press higher up and grasp our chances- with both feet etc. Isn't Steven Davis our next highest scorer with 4? Don't think there is a 'quick fix' player out there under £25M, but there are one or two that could come in and complement our system, so's to make subtle game changes. The ex Cherries at Burnley would be a good punt, and there are a number of good value goalkeepers around that don't wear boxing gloves. lowe esteem
  • Score: 1

3:29pm Tue 15 Apr 14

jls217 says...

lowe esteem wrote:
As an 'attacking' team we know we need a better spread of goals throughout.
I really do expect us to get more goals from midfield and wing backs, and this can evolve next season as we learn to press higher up and grasp our chances- with both feet etc. Isn't Steven Davis our next highest scorer with 4?
Don't think there is a 'quick fix' player out there under £25M, but there are one or two that could come in and complement our system, so's to make subtle game changes. The ex Cherries at Burnley would be a good punt, and there are a number of good value goalkeepers around that don't wear boxing gloves.
Not convinced we need to spend anything like 25mill. If at the summer break it looks like JRod will recover from what could be a career ending injury there will be a few 32year old plus strikers out of contract throughout the world who would be willing to come to us to do a job for a couple of seasons or at least until Jan/Feb next year when we can expect to see JRod back close to his best if he is going to make it back. I would love to see Marshall pushing for a place in goal an old warrior of a centre back and a young striker ready to replace SRL or the above 32 yo striker mentioned above. There will be some cracking players out of contract - let's see how clever the board and Poochy are at convincing them Saints is the place to be.
[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: As an 'attacking' team we know we need a better spread of goals throughout. I really do expect us to get more goals from midfield and wing backs, and this can evolve next season as we learn to press higher up and grasp our chances- with both feet etc. Isn't Steven Davis our next highest scorer with 4? Don't think there is a 'quick fix' player out there under £25M, but there are one or two that could come in and complement our system, so's to make subtle game changes. The ex Cherries at Burnley would be a good punt, and there are a number of good value goalkeepers around that don't wear boxing gloves.[/p][/quote]Not convinced we need to spend anything like 25mill. If at the summer break it looks like JRod will recover from what could be a career ending injury there will be a few 32year old plus strikers out of contract throughout the world who would be willing to come to us to do a job for a couple of seasons or at least until Jan/Feb next year when we can expect to see JRod back close to his best if he is going to make it back. I would love to see Marshall pushing for a place in goal an old warrior of a centre back and a young striker ready to replace SRL or the above 32 yo striker mentioned above. There will be some cracking players out of contract - let's see how clever the board and Poochy are at convincing them Saints is the place to be. jls217
  • Score: -2

5:06pm Tue 15 Apr 14

andrew.smith291@yahoo.com says...

right first thing get poch to sing new contract stability then get new players in second may have to find strongest side to finish season off and start new season with low players but fit players get confidence in the squade then money to invest into team from boss if you are serious about going for top position in new season .and of course season ticket sales will go up but with poch in charge well worth it i would say confidence is there.
right first thing get poch to sing new contract stability then get new players in second may have to find strongest side to finish season off and start new season with low players but fit players get confidence in the squade then money to invest into team from boss if you are serious about going for top position in new season .and of course season ticket sales will go up but with poch in charge well worth it i would say confidence is there. andrew.smith291@yahoo.com
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5:09pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Costa Baz says...

All that needs to be resolved is, are we buying from Harrods or Poundland.

Rumours about goal keepers, are Fabianski and Schmeichel, both out of contract, which would keep money back for other transfers.

Lukaku has already been quoted as wanting to play Champions League, next season, so won't be an option.
Hernandez? Not sure about his all round game, which probably explains why he always comes off the bench. Would he swap one bench for another?

There are some decent strikers, playing for struggling teams - Benteke at Villa, Bony at Swansea, who may want a change of scenery. Can we afford them?
I also think Agbonlahor would be a good addition to our squad, and would offer similar options to JRod - pace and power. He is proven at this level and still only 27.
All that needs to be resolved is, are we buying from Harrods or Poundland. Rumours about goal keepers, are Fabianski and Schmeichel, both out of contract, which would keep money back for other transfers. Lukaku has already been quoted as wanting to play Champions League, next season, so won't be an option. Hernandez? Not sure about his all round game, which probably explains why he always comes off the bench. Would he swap one bench for another? There are some decent strikers, playing for struggling teams - Benteke at Villa, Bony at Swansea, who may want a change of scenery. Can we afford them? I also think Agbonlahor would be a good addition to our squad, and would offer similar options to JRod - pace and power. He is proven at this level and still only 27. Costa Baz
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5:22pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Tye-Dye pt2 says...

Costa Baz wrote:
george chivers wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
george chivers wrote: It's interesting the article says Rodriguez has a torn ACL. usually they snap and have to be replaced with a hamstring or a sliver of bone from the knee cap. Perhaps he will make a quicker recovery it is just a question of mending it with micro stitches rather than a full replacement with alternative tissue?
I lost ACL and PCl and Medial my leg was hanging on by the skin!¨ you are quite right about reconstruction using other body parts..micro stitches will not work because there is no blood supply to the ligament only the connector pints.
So does that mean they will have to replace it anyway?
I read an article that said they remove a strip of ligament and bone from the centre of patella ligament. Apparently this has no adverse affect on the knee.
The strip of ligament and bone is then used to replace the ACL, with the bone knitting together, giving it solidity.
Anyone else feeling a little queasy???
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: It's interesting the article says Rodriguez has a torn ACL. usually they snap and have to be replaced with a hamstring or a sliver of bone from the knee cap. Perhaps he will make a quicker recovery it is just a question of mending it with micro stitches rather than a full replacement with alternative tissue?[/p][/quote]I lost ACL and PCl and Medial my leg was hanging on by the skin!¨ you are quite right about reconstruction using other body parts..micro stitches will not work because there is no blood supply to the ligament only the connector pints.[/p][/quote]So does that mean they will have to replace it anyway?[/p][/quote]I read an article that said they remove a strip of ligament and bone from the centre of patella ligament. Apparently this has no adverse affect on the knee. The strip of ligament and bone is then used to replace the ACL, with the bone knitting together, giving it solidity.[/p][/quote]Anyone else feeling a little queasy??? Tye-Dye pt2
  • Score: 3

9:57pm Tue 15 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Tye-Dye pt2 wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
george chivers wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
george chivers wrote: It's interesting the article says Rodriguez has a torn ACL. usually they snap and have to be replaced with a hamstring or a sliver of bone from the knee cap. Perhaps he will make a quicker recovery it is just a question of mending it with micro stitches rather than a full replacement with alternative tissue?
I lost ACL and PCl and Medial my leg was hanging on by the skin!¨ you are quite right about reconstruction using other body parts..micro stitches will not work because there is no blood supply to the ligament only the connector pints.
So does that mean they will have to replace it anyway?
I read an article that said they remove a strip of ligament and bone from the centre of patella ligament. Apparently this has no adverse affect on the knee.
The strip of ligament and bone is then used to replace the ACL, with the bone knitting together, giving it solidity.
Anyone else feeling a little queasy???
I don't do dwarf games.
[quote][p][bold]Tye-Dye pt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: It's interesting the article says Rodriguez has a torn ACL. usually they snap and have to be replaced with a hamstring or a sliver of bone from the knee cap. Perhaps he will make a quicker recovery it is just a question of mending it with micro stitches rather than a full replacement with alternative tissue?[/p][/quote]I lost ACL and PCl and Medial my leg was hanging on by the skin!¨ you are quite right about reconstruction using other body parts..micro stitches will not work because there is no blood supply to the ligament only the connector pints.[/p][/quote]So does that mean they will have to replace it anyway?[/p][/quote]I read an article that said they remove a strip of ligament and bone from the centre of patella ligament. Apparently this has no adverse affect on the knee. The strip of ligament and bone is then used to replace the ACL, with the bone knitting together, giving it solidity.[/p][/quote]Anyone else feeling a little queasy???[/p][/quote]I don't do dwarf games. OSPREYSAINT
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7:24am Tue 27 May 14

Southampton boy says...

Not sure how you can say we don't need a keeper I still believe we need a keeper even more so now Gassais not a prem keeper an from what I have seen of him he neer will last saturday he was flapping get him out and give the Copper a chance cant be any worse
Not sure how you can say we don't need a keeper I still believe we need a keeper even more so now Gassais not a prem keeper an from what I have seen of him he neer will last saturday he was flapping get him out and give the Copper a chance cant be any worse Southampton boy
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