Bookies fancy Saints boss Mauricio Pochettino for North London move

Daily Echo: Mauricio Pochettino Mauricio Pochettino

SAINTS boss Mauricio Pochettino remains very much in the bookies’ minds to make a switch to North London.

Yesterday’s decision by Manchester United to sack David Moyes will ensure the rumour mill goes into overdrive in the next few weeks.

Dutchman Louis Van Gaal is the early favourite with the bookmakers to replace Moyes at Old Trafford.

Van Gaal had previously been favourite to replace Tim Sherwood at White Hart Lane.

He remains 4/1 with SkyBet, but is now second favourite behind Massimiliano Allegri at 7/2.

Allegri left his previous job in Serie A, with Milan, in January of this year.

Pochettino, who has repeatedly said he will talk to his employers about his future after the current season has ended, is 5/1 third favourite to replace Sherwood.

The Saints manager is actually second favourite with SkyBet to become Arsene Wenger’s successor at Arsenal.

Pochettino is 16/1, the same odds as Steve Bould, with Dortmund’s Jurgen Klopp the favourite at 10/1.

Pochettino is rated 40/1 to replace Moyes at Manchester United, the same odds as Gary Neville.

Moyes is 22/1 to become the next Saints boss if Pochettino is enticed away, but the favourite at 5/2 to be named the next Newcastle manager.

Ex-Saint Alan Pardew is coming under increasing pressure in the north east after losing his last five Premier League games, scoring just one goal and conceding 14.

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8:23am Wed 23 Apr 14

SiamSaint says...

Which means that when the dust settles Pards could be back at St Mary's Lock up you #@$#%%%#!
Which means that when the dust settles Pards could be back at St Mary's Lock up you #@$#%%%#! SiamSaint
  • Score: 6

8:37am Wed 23 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

Is that the same bookies who made skunt the favourites for promo from the bargain basement?
Is that the same bookies who made skunt the favourites for promo from the bargain basement? Clever Dick
  • Score: 41

9:31am Wed 23 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

It would great to wake up with a Daily Echo thread proclaiming good news and a positive outlook, I will remain optimistic.
It would great to wake up with a Daily Echo thread proclaiming good news and a positive outlook, I will remain optimistic. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 27

9:32am Wed 23 Apr 14

beanwalking says...

I am surprised he is not favorite for the Man U job. he seems to be favorite for everything else.
I am surprised he is not favorite for the Man U job. he seems to be favorite for everything else. beanwalking
  • Score: 18

9:38am Wed 23 Apr 14

costa gaz says...

The managerial merry-go-round has begun and our boss is hot property at the moment.
If we prove to still be a selling club over the summer, then I think he will look at other options.
The big teams at the top of the food chain take what they want, followed by the next tier and so on.....
Athletico Madrid are on the verge of winning LaLiga and have a decent chance of winning the champions league, but they will probably lose their top players and manager over the summer.
It has been like this for decades and will not change in the near future, I'd like to think of FIFA leveling the playing field, but everything is geared to the teams at the very top staying there.
The managerial merry-go-round has begun and our boss is hot property at the moment. If we prove to still be a selling club over the summer, then I think he will look at other options. The big teams at the top of the food chain take what they want, followed by the next tier and so on..... Athletico Madrid are on the verge of winning LaLiga and have a decent chance of winning the champions league, but they will probably lose their top players and manager over the summer. It has been like this for decades and will not change in the near future, I'd like to think of FIFA leveling the playing field, but everything is geared to the teams at the very top staying there. costa gaz
  • Score: 19

9:39am Wed 23 Apr 14

saintmac says...

Please give this story a rest,DE. Whatever will be will be.We are in safe hands
and I am looking forward to seeing what happens in the summer and next
season. COYS.
Please give this story a rest,DE. Whatever will be will be.We are in safe hands and I am looking forward to seeing what happens in the summer and next season. COYS. saintmac
  • Score: 10

9:58am Wed 23 Apr 14

Outside of the Box says...

I for one am sick and tired of all the transfer speculation and our managers is favourite for this or that job, its not news its regurgitated rubbish that everyone is now aware of.

The national newspapers have sold nearly every Saints player this year, If we are to believe them I will not be renewing my season ticket, as we'll have no players or a manager left to support.

Now if the bookies were to make MoPo favourite for next years Grand National that would be news.
I for one am sick and tired of all the transfer speculation and our managers is favourite for this or that job, its not news its regurgitated rubbish that everyone is now aware of. The national newspapers have sold nearly every Saints player this year, If we are to believe them I will not be renewing my season ticket, as we'll have no players or a manager left to support. Now if the bookies were to make MoPo favourite for next years Grand National that would be news. Outside of the Box
  • Score: 12

10:01am Wed 23 Apr 14

richard903 says...

Potty chino is not suited to spurts, he insists on total control of ins and outs within the squad. Spurts also have a crap youth system. I think the gent will stay to continue his project, so the players will stay, because like "us in potty chino they trust". The person I feel sorry for is Katrina, because she will need to dig very deep into her handbag this summer to satisfy our needs. Personally I am still grateful that we have a club, it got so close to dissapearing I darnt think about it. God bless the Libherrs (sorry cant spell to save my life) we love you and thank you x
Potty chino is not suited to spurts, he insists on total control of ins and outs within the squad. Spurts also have a crap youth system. I think the gent will stay to continue his project, so the players will stay, because like "us in potty chino they trust". The person I feel sorry for is Katrina, because she will need to dig very deep into her handbag this summer to satisfy our needs. Personally I am still grateful that we have a club, it got so close to dissapearing I darnt think about it. God bless the Libherrs (sorry cant spell to save my life) we love you and thank you x richard903
  • Score: 15

10:02am Wed 23 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
I for one am sick and tired of all the transfer speculation and our managers is favourite for this or that job, its not news its regurgitated rubbish that everyone is now aware of.

The national newspapers have sold nearly every Saints player this year, If we are to believe them I will not be renewing my season ticket, as we'll have no players or a manager left to support.

Now if the bookies were to make MoPo favourite for next years Grand National that would be news.
There is some breaking news on that front. Skunt are favourites for the donkey derby!
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: I for one am sick and tired of all the transfer speculation and our managers is favourite for this or that job, its not news its regurgitated rubbish that everyone is now aware of. The national newspapers have sold nearly every Saints player this year, If we are to believe them I will not be renewing my season ticket, as we'll have no players or a manager left to support. Now if the bookies were to make MoPo favourite for next years Grand National that would be news.[/p][/quote]There is some breaking news on that front. Skunt are favourites for the donkey derby! Clever Dick
  • Score: 10

10:07am Wed 23 Apr 14

george chivers says...

costa gaz wrote:
The managerial merry-go-round has begun and our boss is hot property at the moment.
If we prove to still be a selling club over the summer, then I think he will look at other options.
The big teams at the top of the food chain take what they want, followed by the next tier and so on.....
Athletico Madrid are on the verge of winning LaLiga and have a decent chance of winning the champions league, but they will probably lose their top players and manager over the summer.
It has been like this for decades and will not change in the near future, I'd like to think of FIFA leveling the playing field, but everything is geared to the teams at the very top staying there.
A beacon of common sense in a sea of emotional turmoil. Perfect post.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: The managerial merry-go-round has begun and our boss is hot property at the moment. If we prove to still be a selling club over the summer, then I think he will look at other options. The big teams at the top of the food chain take what they want, followed by the next tier and so on..... Athletico Madrid are on the verge of winning LaLiga and have a decent chance of winning the champions league, but they will probably lose their top players and manager over the summer. It has been like this for decades and will not change in the near future, I'd like to think of FIFA leveling the playing field, but everything is geared to the teams at the very top staying there.[/p][/quote]A beacon of common sense in a sea of emotional turmoil. Perfect post. george chivers
  • Score: 11

10:13am Wed 23 Apr 14

notaclue says...

I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't. notaclue
  • Score: 8

10:55am Wed 23 Apr 14

Rooflas says...

Only 1 winner in all this merry go round and that's the agents! They need to be regulated, dirty,filthy parasites. No wonder there aren't enough young English managers, they don't get a chance.
Only 1 winner in all this merry go round and that's the agents! They need to be regulated, dirty,filthy parasites. No wonder there aren't enough young English managers, they don't get a chance. Rooflas
  • Score: 9

11:01am Wed 23 Apr 14

Positively4thStreet says...

There's always a bet on somewhere..ask Ray Winstone.Bet NAAAH !!
The bookies and the press should butt out,and stop deciding what other people are going to do with their lives.
There's always a bet on somewhere..ask Ray Winstone.Bet NAAAH !! The bookies and the press should butt out,and stop deciding what other people are going to do with their lives. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 6

11:12am Wed 23 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 25

11:19am Wed 23 Apr 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

S P E C U L A T I O N , could be , MIGHT happen ! Think I would rather BET on FAT Harry being sacked by QPR . And Moyes in GEORDIE land .
S P E C U L A T I O N , could be , MIGHT happen ! Think I would rather BET on FAT Harry being sacked by QPR . And Moyes in GEORDIE land . SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: 7

11:26am Wed 23 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
I for one am sick and tired of all the transfer speculation and our managers is favourite for this or that job, its not news its regurgitated rubbish that everyone is now aware of.

The national newspapers have sold nearly every Saints player this year, If we are to believe them I will not be renewing my season ticket, as we'll have no players or a manager left to support.

Now if the bookies were to make MoPo favourite for next years Grand National that would be news.
There is some breaking news on that front. Skunt are favourites for the donkey derby!
are they hoping to take carroll on then? L2 would suit his style.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: I for one am sick and tired of all the transfer speculation and our managers is favourite for this or that job, its not news its regurgitated rubbish that everyone is now aware of. The national newspapers have sold nearly every Saints player this year, If we are to believe them I will not be renewing my season ticket, as we'll have no players or a manager left to support. Now if the bookies were to make MoPo favourite for next years Grand National that would be news.[/p][/quote]There is some breaking news on that front. Skunt are favourites for the donkey derby![/p][/quote]are they hoping to take carroll on then? L2 would suit his style. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 2

11:46am Wed 23 Apr 14

notaclue says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic. notaclue
  • Score: 0

11:53am Wed 23 Apr 14

Mush On The Beach says...

notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Mourinho has many more different ways to bleat and blame everyone else when he loses as well. Well done Mackems, the first team to beat Chelski at the Bridge in 77 games under Maureen’s reign.
Mauricio is still learning his craft in the Prem and hopefully he remains with us to continue on his impressive upward curve.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Mourinho has many more different ways to bleat and blame everyone else when he loses as well. Well done Mackems, the first team to beat Chelski at the Bridge in 77 games under Maureen’s reign. Mauricio is still learning his craft in the Prem and hopefully he remains with us to continue on his impressive upward curve. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 7

11:59am Wed 23 Apr 14

Outside of the Box says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
I for one am sick and tired of all the transfer speculation and our managers is favourite for this or that job, its not news its regurgitated rubbish that everyone is now aware of.

The national newspapers have sold nearly every Saints player this year, If we are to believe them I will not be renewing my season ticket, as we'll have no players or a manager left to support.

Now if the bookies were to make MoPo favourite for next years Grand National that would be news.
There is some breaking news on that front. Skunt are favourites for the donkey derby!
My money is on the Donkey,,,,,,,oops I forgot the Skunts are a team full of donkey's
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: I for one am sick and tired of all the transfer speculation and our managers is favourite for this or that job, its not news its regurgitated rubbish that everyone is now aware of. The national newspapers have sold nearly every Saints player this year, If we are to believe them I will not be renewing my season ticket, as we'll have no players or a manager left to support. Now if the bookies were to make MoPo favourite for next years Grand National that would be news.[/p][/quote]There is some breaking news on that front. Skunt are favourites for the donkey derby![/p][/quote]My money is on the Donkey,,,,,,,oops I forgot the Skunts are a team full of donkey's Outside of the Box
  • Score: 1

12:02pm Wed 23 Apr 14

hedge end bob says...

PHEW.
Buggar it, it's just started raining.
PHEW. Buggar it, it's just started raining. hedge end bob
  • Score: 1

12:07pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 8

12:28pm Wed 23 Apr 14

BracknellSaint says...

I only want MoPo to stay on a longer deal, alongside Adam, Jay, Chambers, Clyne, Shaw, Morgan... He's the right man to lead us, and those players must know they're on a good thing here.
I guess it's inevitable that one day Luke at least will move on, but I'd like to see another couple of seasons from him at least. He's so young that he would be beter off getting a few more years of experience under his belt before he goes...
Here's hoping , anyway...
I only want MoPo to stay on a longer deal, alongside Adam, Jay, Chambers, Clyne, Shaw, Morgan... He's the right man to lead us, and those players must know they're on a good thing here. I guess it's inevitable that one day Luke at least will move on, but I'd like to see another couple of seasons from him at least. He's so young that he would be beter off getting a few more years of experience under his belt before he goes... Here's hoping , anyway... BracknellSaint
  • Score: 8

12:41pm Wed 23 Apr 14

BracknellSaint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
Agreed our finishing needs improvement next term- we really shouldn't be missing three or four tap ins like we did against Villa...
But the bigger problem is having 70%of the ball, yet not being able to play the right ball. Don't think it's about plan A or Plan B a this stage, it's lacking that bit of quality to either thred it through, or in Luke ( and to a lesser extent Clyne/ Chambers) 's case,our crossing is woeful at times.. Better service and SRL would have another 5-6 goals at least to his name this season...
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]Agreed our finishing needs improvement next term- we really shouldn't be missing three or four tap ins like we did against Villa... But the bigger problem is having 70%of the ball, yet not being able to play the right ball. Don't think it's about plan A or Plan B a this stage, it's lacking that bit of quality to either thred it through, or in Luke ( and to a lesser extent Clyne/ Chambers) 's case,our crossing is woeful at times.. Better service and SRL would have another 5-6 goals at least to his name this season... BracknellSaint
  • Score: 4

12:47pm Wed 23 Apr 14

right back in the bar says...

The only merit in this story is the broader perspective that there are plenty of clubs out there who have been impressed with his work. We can only hope that Freddie and the board will provide a platform for MP so that the team can continue to improve and provide a solid foundation for blooding more academy players. If we understand MPs true values this should ensure his commitment to the SFC. On the face of it that means a new striker (MP has been quite vocal recently about there being no end product - the nearest he has got to criticising performances) but perhaps JRod could play more centrally next season and we could get a genuine wide player.
The only merit in this story is the broader perspective that there are plenty of clubs out there who have been impressed with his work. We can only hope that Freddie and the board will provide a platform for MP so that the team can continue to improve and provide a solid foundation for blooding more academy players. If we understand MPs true values this should ensure his commitment to the SFC. On the face of it that means a new striker (MP has been quite vocal recently about there being no end product - the nearest he has got to criticising performances) but perhaps JRod could play more centrally next season and we could get a genuine wide player. right back in the bar
  • Score: 2

1:25pm Wed 23 Apr 14

notaclue says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............? notaclue
  • Score: 4

1:53pm Wed 23 Apr 14

george chivers says...

notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves. george chivers
  • Score: 3

2:24pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

george chivers wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.
George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.[/p][/quote]George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself? Rising_Son
  • Score: -9

2:32pm Wed 23 Apr 14

notaclue says...

george chivers wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.
Don't get me wrong I think MP has the potential to be great and I want him to stay here, but he wouldn't last a season at a top 5 club right now.
I think it's Saints that are looking to see who else is around, after all MP says he is ready to talk about his contract now but that it is up to the board when that will happen.
I think he will stay, and that he will be offered a new contract.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.[/p][/quote]Don't get me wrong I think MP has the potential to be great and I want him to stay here, but he wouldn't last a season at a top 5 club right now. I think it's Saints that are looking to see who else is around, after all MP says he is ready to talk about his contract now but that it is up to the board when that will happen. I think he will stay, and that he will be offered a new contract. notaclue
  • Score: 6

2:38pm Wed 23 Apr 14

george chivers says...

Rising_Son wrote:
george chivers wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.
George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?
I told you that was true and explained why but I think you are too thick to understand it.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.[/p][/quote]George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?[/p][/quote]I told you that was true and explained why but I think you are too thick to understand it. george chivers
  • Score: 5

2:46pm Wed 23 Apr 14

03alpe01 says...

God he's going to be busy next season!
God he's going to be busy next season! 03alpe01
  • Score: 0

3:03pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Martin Titaniconian says...

do not want David Moye as Southampton Maager as he cannot manage a top Premier league team like Mancheter United.
do not want David Moye as Southampton Maager as he cannot manage a top Premier league team like Mancheter United. Martin Titaniconian
  • Score: -9

3:36pm Wed 23 Apr 14

redandy10 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
george chivers wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.
George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?
Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.[/p][/quote]George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?[/p][/quote]Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here. redandy10
  • Score: 4

3:39pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You are right that apart from Liverpool away we haven't beaten them. My point is that we have done well against them and if we had that finisher and a bit more quality in the ranks we would have got more points against the top four.

City were lucky to get a point here and look at the offside goal, Jay injury and penalty decision at their place. Arsenal didn't beat us at SMS only Chelsea outclassed us and that wasn't for 90 minutes each game.

You've got to remember that these teams were assembled for massive cost and our starting 11's combined cost is less than many of their individual players! In reality they should be trouncing us yet they are not. Why are they not? Because we have an excellent manager and have produced a number of excellent youngsters all in one batch from the academy. If we sign the right players to add to this mix we can give those top teams a run for their money at a fraction of the price.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You are right that apart from Liverpool away we haven't beaten them. My point is that we have done well against them and if we had that finisher and a bit more quality in the ranks we would have got more points against the top four. City were lucky to get a point here and look at the offside goal, Jay injury and penalty decision at their place. Arsenal didn't beat us at SMS only Chelsea outclassed us and that wasn't for 90 minutes each game. You've got to remember that these teams were assembled for massive cost and our starting 11's combined cost is less than many of their individual players! In reality they should be trouncing us yet they are not. Why are they not? Because we have an excellent manager and have produced a number of excellent youngsters all in one batch from the academy. If we sign the right players to add to this mix we can give those top teams a run for their money at a fraction of the price. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 11

3:46pm Wed 23 Apr 14

notaclue says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You are right that apart from Liverpool away we haven't beaten them. My point is that we have done well against them and if we had that finisher and a bit more quality in the ranks we would have got more points against the top four.

City were lucky to get a point here and look at the offside goal, Jay injury and penalty decision at their place. Arsenal didn't beat us at SMS only Chelsea outclassed us and that wasn't for 90 minutes each game.

You've got to remember that these teams were assembled for massive cost and our starting 11's combined cost is less than many of their individual players! In reality they should be trouncing us yet they are not. Why are they not? Because we have an excellent manager and have produced a number of excellent youngsters all in one batch from the academy. If we sign the right players to add to this mix we can give those top teams a run for their money at a fraction of the price.
Sell Shaw for £30m promote Matt Targett then buy Lukaku for £20m.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You are right that apart from Liverpool away we haven't beaten them. My point is that we have done well against them and if we had that finisher and a bit more quality in the ranks we would have got more points against the top four. City were lucky to get a point here and look at the offside goal, Jay injury and penalty decision at their place. Arsenal didn't beat us at SMS only Chelsea outclassed us and that wasn't for 90 minutes each game. You've got to remember that these teams were assembled for massive cost and our starting 11's combined cost is less than many of their individual players! In reality they should be trouncing us yet they are not. Why are they not? Because we have an excellent manager and have produced a number of excellent youngsters all in one batch from the academy. If we sign the right players to add to this mix we can give those top teams a run for their money at a fraction of the price.[/p][/quote]Sell Shaw for £30m promote Matt Targett then buy Lukaku for £20m. notaclue
  • Score: 3

3:52pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

notaclue wrote:
george chivers wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.
Don't get me wrong I think MP has the potential to be great and I want him to stay here, but he wouldn't last a season at a top 5 club right now.
I think it's Saints that are looking to see who else is around, after all MP says he is ready to talk about his contract now but that it is up to the board when that will happen.
I think he will stay, and that he will be offered a new contract.
What makes you think we can get someone better than MoPo at this stage of our development? Why would you 'look around' and risk alienating him and he leaves of his own accord?

From what they are saying one of the reasons Moyes got the elbow was because he lost the dressing room. Well we know - because they keep telling us - that our players love MoPo and want to stay if he does. That in itself is enough for me to support him.

Personally, given the rumours about massive bids coming in for our prized youngsters, I wouldn't even consider replacing MoPo as he is the bigger part of keeping them and if they go it's effectively all over for the vision.

I really don't think many fans realise what a crossroads we are at. We have an opportunity to build a team that you have to go back 30 years to match. We had a bit of a chance in the early 90's too and fluffed that one as well. If we don't take this chance then I don't think we ever will.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.[/p][/quote]Don't get me wrong I think MP has the potential to be great and I want him to stay here, but he wouldn't last a season at a top 5 club right now. I think it's Saints that are looking to see who else is around, after all MP says he is ready to talk about his contract now but that it is up to the board when that will happen. I think he will stay, and that he will be offered a new contract.[/p][/quote]What makes you think we can get someone better than MoPo at this stage of our development? Why would you 'look around' and risk alienating him and he leaves of his own accord? From what they are saying one of the reasons Moyes got the elbow was because he lost the dressing room. Well we know - because they keep telling us - that our players love MoPo and want to stay if he does. That in itself is enough for me to support him. Personally, given the rumours about massive bids coming in for our prized youngsters, I wouldn't even consider replacing MoPo as he is the bigger part of keeping them and if they go it's effectively all over for the vision. I really don't think many fans realise what a crossroads we are at. We have an opportunity to build a team that you have to go back 30 years to match. We had a bit of a chance in the early 90's too and fluffed that one as well. If we don't take this chance then I don't think we ever will. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 4

3:59pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You are right that apart from Liverpool away we haven't beaten them. My point is that we have done well against them and if we had that finisher and a bit more quality in the ranks we would have got more points against the top four.

City were lucky to get a point here and look at the offside goal, Jay injury and penalty decision at their place. Arsenal didn't beat us at SMS only Chelsea outclassed us and that wasn't for 90 minutes each game.

You've got to remember that these teams were assembled for massive cost and our starting 11's combined cost is less than many of their individual players! In reality they should be trouncing us yet they are not. Why are they not? Because we have an excellent manager and have produced a number of excellent youngsters all in one batch from the academy. If we sign the right players to add to this mix we can give those top teams a run for their money at a fraction of the price.
Sell Shaw for £30m promote Matt Targett then buy Lukaku for £20m.
How about keep Shaw and buy Lukaku?

Targett was given a lot of publicity a couple of seasons back but he hasn't even made the cup squads which is a concern. Even Fox was getting picked in preference and then Clyne on the left with Chambers on the right.

I think the one's that are part of this whole thing are Clyne, Shaw, Chambers, Lovren, Cork, Lallana, Schniderlin and Jay Rod. That could be the basis of a team to stay together for years. I leave Rickie our because of age. Some would add Wanyama to it. Build on that and have Rickie, Boruc, Fonte, Davis etc as squad players. That could take you places.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You are right that apart from Liverpool away we haven't beaten them. My point is that we have done well against them and if we had that finisher and a bit more quality in the ranks we would have got more points against the top four. City were lucky to get a point here and look at the offside goal, Jay injury and penalty decision at their place. Arsenal didn't beat us at SMS only Chelsea outclassed us and that wasn't for 90 minutes each game. You've got to remember that these teams were assembled for massive cost and our starting 11's combined cost is less than many of their individual players! In reality they should be trouncing us yet they are not. Why are they not? Because we have an excellent manager and have produced a number of excellent youngsters all in one batch from the academy. If we sign the right players to add to this mix we can give those top teams a run for their money at a fraction of the price.[/p][/quote]Sell Shaw for £30m promote Matt Targett then buy Lukaku for £20m.[/p][/quote]How about keep Shaw and buy Lukaku? Targett was given a lot of publicity a couple of seasons back but he hasn't even made the cup squads which is a concern. Even Fox was getting picked in preference and then Clyne on the left with Chambers on the right. I think the one's that are part of this whole thing are Clyne, Shaw, Chambers, Lovren, Cork, Lallana, Schniderlin and Jay Rod. That could be the basis of a team to stay together for years. I leave Rickie our because of age. Some would add Wanyama to it. Build on that and have Rickie, Boruc, Fonte, Davis etc as squad players. That could take you places. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 5

4:07pm Wed 23 Apr 14

mickey01 says...

moyes to newcastle , pardew to west ham and strachan to st marys
moyes to newcastle , pardew to west ham and strachan to st marys mickey01
  • Score: -8

4:10pm Wed 23 Apr 14

lowe esteem says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
You're almost giving to the lie "All through Rickie" yourself.

What about the other team members who do have 'pace', and MUST have goals in them? We can and MUST vary what we do, not just run down to the goallines, sling it in, and then blame Ricky for not being Mr Stretch. I do believe that more goals can, and should come from Spider, Corky Natsy Clyne, Lukie (a la Bale) et al.
If the know-alls want to call this Plan C or whatever, so B it!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]You're almost giving to the lie "All through Rickie" yourself. What about the other team members who do have 'pace', and MUST have goals in them? We can and MUST vary what we do, not just run down to the goallines, sling it in, and then blame Ricky for not being Mr Stretch. I do believe that more goals can, and should come from Spider, Corky Natsy Clyne, Lukie (a la Bale) et al. If the know-alls want to call this Plan C or whatever, so B it! lowe esteem
  • Score: 4

4:22pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

lowe esteem wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
You're almost giving to the lie "All through Rickie" yourself.

What about the other team members who do have 'pace', and MUST have goals in them? We can and MUST vary what we do, not just run down to the goallines, sling it in, and then blame Ricky for not being Mr Stretch. I do believe that more goals can, and should come from Spider, Corky Natsy Clyne, Lukie (a la Bale) et al.
If the know-alls want to call this Plan C or whatever, so B it!
I agree. But that still comes back to better finishing and not a totally different approach.

I forgot JWP in my team above.
[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]You're almost giving to the lie "All through Rickie" yourself. What about the other team members who do have 'pace', and MUST have goals in them? We can and MUST vary what we do, not just run down to the goallines, sling it in, and then blame Ricky for not being Mr Stretch. I do believe that more goals can, and should come from Spider, Corky Natsy Clyne, Lukie (a la Bale) et al. If the know-alls want to call this Plan C or whatever, so B it![/p][/quote]I agree. But that still comes back to better finishing and not a totally different approach. I forgot JWP in my team above. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

4:24pm Wed 23 Apr 14

notaclue says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You are right that apart from Liverpool away we haven't beaten them. My point is that we have done well against them and if we had that finisher and a bit more quality in the ranks we would have got more points against the top four.

City were lucky to get a point here and look at the offside goal, Jay injury and penalty decision at their place. Arsenal didn't beat us at SMS only Chelsea outclassed us and that wasn't for 90 minutes each game.

You've got to remember that these teams were assembled for massive cost and our starting 11's combined cost is less than many of their individual players! In reality they should be trouncing us yet they are not. Why are they not? Because we have an excellent manager and have produced a number of excellent youngsters all in one batch from the academy. If we sign the right players to add to this mix we can give those top teams a run for their money at a fraction of the price.
Sell Shaw for £30m promote Matt Targett then buy Lukaku for £20m.
How about keep Shaw and buy Lukaku?

Targett was given a lot of publicity a couple of seasons back but he hasn't even made the cup squads which is a concern. Even Fox was getting picked in preference and then Clyne on the left with Chambers on the right.

I think the one's that are part of this whole thing are Clyne, Shaw, Chambers, Lovren, Cork, Lallana, Schniderlin and Jay Rod. That could be the basis of a team to stay together for years. I leave Rickie our because of age. Some would add Wanyama to it. Build on that and have Rickie, Boruc, Fonte, Davis etc as squad players. That could take you places.
Yes I would much much rather keep Luke and buy Lukaku but Im not expecting KL to keep forking out the dosh like she has in the past. Hope Im wrong but I can't see us spendng £20m+ on one player without us selling first.
Think MP will be told you got £10m ish to spend unless you sell someone just my guess from what's out there.

Perhaps we can do a better shirt sponsorship deal?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You are right that apart from Liverpool away we haven't beaten them. My point is that we have done well against them and if we had that finisher and a bit more quality in the ranks we would have got more points against the top four. City were lucky to get a point here and look at the offside goal, Jay injury and penalty decision at their place. Arsenal didn't beat us at SMS only Chelsea outclassed us and that wasn't for 90 minutes each game. You've got to remember that these teams were assembled for massive cost and our starting 11's combined cost is less than many of their individual players! In reality they should be trouncing us yet they are not. Why are they not? Because we have an excellent manager and have produced a number of excellent youngsters all in one batch from the academy. If we sign the right players to add to this mix we can give those top teams a run for their money at a fraction of the price.[/p][/quote]Sell Shaw for £30m promote Matt Targett then buy Lukaku for £20m.[/p][/quote]How about keep Shaw and buy Lukaku? Targett was given a lot of publicity a couple of seasons back but he hasn't even made the cup squads which is a concern. Even Fox was getting picked in preference and then Clyne on the left with Chambers on the right. I think the one's that are part of this whole thing are Clyne, Shaw, Chambers, Lovren, Cork, Lallana, Schniderlin and Jay Rod. That could be the basis of a team to stay together for years. I leave Rickie our because of age. Some would add Wanyama to it. Build on that and have Rickie, Boruc, Fonte, Davis etc as squad players. That could take you places.[/p][/quote]Yes I would much much rather keep Luke and buy Lukaku but Im not expecting KL to keep forking out the dosh like she has in the past. Hope Im wrong but I can't see us spendng £20m+ on one player without us selling first. Think MP will be told you got £10m ish to spend unless you sell someone just my guess from what's out there. Perhaps we can do a better shirt sponsorship deal? notaclue
  • Score: 4

4:39pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You are right that apart from Liverpool away we haven't beaten them. My point is that we have done well against them and if we had that finisher and a bit more quality in the ranks we would have got more points against the top four.

City were lucky to get a point here and look at the offside goal, Jay injury and penalty decision at their place. Arsenal didn't beat us at SMS only Chelsea outclassed us and that wasn't for 90 minutes each game.

You've got to remember that these teams were assembled for massive cost and our starting 11's combined cost is less than many of their individual players! In reality they should be trouncing us yet they are not. Why are they not? Because we have an excellent manager and have produced a number of excellent youngsters all in one batch from the academy. If we sign the right players to add to this mix we can give those top teams a run for their money at a fraction of the price.
Sell Shaw for £30m promote Matt Targett then buy Lukaku for £20m.
How about keep Shaw and buy Lukaku?

Targett was given a lot of publicity a couple of seasons back but he hasn't even made the cup squads which is a concern. Even Fox was getting picked in preference and then Clyne on the left with Chambers on the right.

I think the one's that are part of this whole thing are Clyne, Shaw, Chambers, Lovren, Cork, Lallana, Schniderlin and Jay Rod. That could be the basis of a team to stay together for years. I leave Rickie our because of age. Some would add Wanyama to it. Build on that and have Rickie, Boruc, Fonte, Davis etc as squad players. That could take you places.
Yes I would much much rather keep Luke and buy Lukaku but Im not expecting KL to keep forking out the dosh like she has in the past. Hope Im wrong but I can't see us spendng £20m+ on one player without us selling first.
Think MP will be told you got £10m ish to spend unless you sell someone just my guess from what's out there.

Perhaps we can do a better shirt sponsorship deal?
If we have to sell then sell Dani and Gaston. They cost £30m between them. We'd take a loss on Dani but even if you halve his value it's still £20m between them.

Priority has to be a striker, otherwise why did we buy Dani? And that was before Jay got crocked. If we can have a second player then a CB and if we can have a third then a keeper. All signings should be starting 11 and not squad bulk.

If she doesn't fancy it then sell the club for a profit to someone who does.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You are right that apart from Liverpool away we haven't beaten them. My point is that we have done well against them and if we had that finisher and a bit more quality in the ranks we would have got more points against the top four. City were lucky to get a point here and look at the offside goal, Jay injury and penalty decision at their place. Arsenal didn't beat us at SMS only Chelsea outclassed us and that wasn't for 90 minutes each game. You've got to remember that these teams were assembled for massive cost and our starting 11's combined cost is less than many of their individual players! In reality they should be trouncing us yet they are not. Why are they not? Because we have an excellent manager and have produced a number of excellent youngsters all in one batch from the academy. If we sign the right players to add to this mix we can give those top teams a run for their money at a fraction of the price.[/p][/quote]Sell Shaw for £30m promote Matt Targett then buy Lukaku for £20m.[/p][/quote]How about keep Shaw and buy Lukaku? Targett was given a lot of publicity a couple of seasons back but he hasn't even made the cup squads which is a concern. Even Fox was getting picked in preference and then Clyne on the left with Chambers on the right. I think the one's that are part of this whole thing are Clyne, Shaw, Chambers, Lovren, Cork, Lallana, Schniderlin and Jay Rod. That could be the basis of a team to stay together for years. I leave Rickie our because of age. Some would add Wanyama to it. Build on that and have Rickie, Boruc, Fonte, Davis etc as squad players. That could take you places.[/p][/quote]Yes I would much much rather keep Luke and buy Lukaku but Im not expecting KL to keep forking out the dosh like she has in the past. Hope Im wrong but I can't see us spendng £20m+ on one player without us selling first. Think MP will be told you got £10m ish to spend unless you sell someone just my guess from what's out there. Perhaps we can do a better shirt sponsorship deal?[/p][/quote]If we have to sell then sell Dani and Gaston. They cost £30m between them. We'd take a loss on Dani but even if you halve his value it's still £20m between them. Priority has to be a striker, otherwise why did we buy Dani? And that was before Jay got crocked. If we can have a second player then a CB and if we can have a third then a keeper. All signings should be starting 11 and not squad bulk. If she doesn't fancy it then sell the club for a profit to someone who does. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

5:00pm Wed 23 Apr 14

notaclue says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You are right that apart from Liverpool away we haven't beaten them. My point is that we have done well against them and if we had that finisher and a bit more quality in the ranks we would have got more points against the top four.

City were lucky to get a point here and look at the offside goal, Jay injury and penalty decision at their place. Arsenal didn't beat us at SMS only Chelsea outclassed us and that wasn't for 90 minutes each game.

You've got to remember that these teams were assembled for massive cost and our starting 11's combined cost is less than many of their individual players! In reality they should be trouncing us yet they are not. Why are they not? Because we have an excellent manager and have produced a number of excellent youngsters all in one batch from the academy. If we sign the right players to add to this mix we can give those top teams a run for their money at a fraction of the price.
Sell Shaw for £30m promote Matt Targett then buy Lukaku for £20m.
How about keep Shaw and buy Lukaku?

Targett was given a lot of publicity a couple of seasons back but he hasn't even made the cup squads which is a concern. Even Fox was getting picked in preference and then Clyne on the left with Chambers on the right.

I think the one's that are part of this whole thing are Clyne, Shaw, Chambers, Lovren, Cork, Lallana, Schniderlin and Jay Rod. That could be the basis of a team to stay together for years. I leave Rickie our because of age. Some would add Wanyama to it. Build on that and have Rickie, Boruc, Fonte, Davis etc as squad players. That could take you places.
Yes I would much much rather keep Luke and buy Lukaku but Im not expecting KL to keep forking out the dosh like she has in the past. Hope Im wrong but I can't see us spendng £20m+ on one player without us selling first.
Think MP will be told you got £10m ish to spend unless you sell someone just my guess from what's out there.

Perhaps we can do a better shirt sponsorship deal?
If we have to sell then sell Dani and Gaston. They cost £30m between them. We'd take a loss on Dani but even if you halve his value it's still £20m between them.

Priority has to be a striker, otherwise why did we buy Dani? And that was before Jay got crocked. If we can have a second player then a CB and if we can have a third then a keeper. All signings should be starting 11 and not squad bulk.

If she doesn't fancy it then sell the club for a profit to someone who does.
£20m for Gaston and Dani would be great right now, but if I had given you £30m to buy them like KL has then I would be a bit hesitant next time. We are goin to have to live within our budget or a lot close to it than we have been, that much is out there.
We have to make more money to spend more money.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You are right that apart from Liverpool away we haven't beaten them. My point is that we have done well against them and if we had that finisher and a bit more quality in the ranks we would have got more points against the top four. City were lucky to get a point here and look at the offside goal, Jay injury and penalty decision at their place. Arsenal didn't beat us at SMS only Chelsea outclassed us and that wasn't for 90 minutes each game. You've got to remember that these teams were assembled for massive cost and our starting 11's combined cost is less than many of their individual players! In reality they should be trouncing us yet they are not. Why are they not? Because we have an excellent manager and have produced a number of excellent youngsters all in one batch from the academy. If we sign the right players to add to this mix we can give those top teams a run for their money at a fraction of the price.[/p][/quote]Sell Shaw for £30m promote Matt Targett then buy Lukaku for £20m.[/p][/quote]How about keep Shaw and buy Lukaku? Targett was given a lot of publicity a couple of seasons back but he hasn't even made the cup squads which is a concern. Even Fox was getting picked in preference and then Clyne on the left with Chambers on the right. I think the one's that are part of this whole thing are Clyne, Shaw, Chambers, Lovren, Cork, Lallana, Schniderlin and Jay Rod. That could be the basis of a team to stay together for years. I leave Rickie our because of age. Some would add Wanyama to it. Build on that and have Rickie, Boruc, Fonte, Davis etc as squad players. That could take you places.[/p][/quote]Yes I would much much rather keep Luke and buy Lukaku but Im not expecting KL to keep forking out the dosh like she has in the past. Hope Im wrong but I can't see us spendng £20m+ on one player without us selling first. Think MP will be told you got £10m ish to spend unless you sell someone just my guess from what's out there. Perhaps we can do a better shirt sponsorship deal?[/p][/quote]If we have to sell then sell Dani and Gaston. They cost £30m between them. We'd take a loss on Dani but even if you halve his value it's still £20m between them. Priority has to be a striker, otherwise why did we buy Dani? And that was before Jay got crocked. If we can have a second player then a CB and if we can have a third then a keeper. All signings should be starting 11 and not squad bulk. If she doesn't fancy it then sell the club for a profit to someone who does.[/p][/quote]£20m for Gaston and Dani would be great right now, but if I had given you £30m to buy them like KL has then I would be a bit hesitant next time. We are goin to have to live within our budget or a lot close to it than we have been, that much is out there. We have to make more money to spend more money. notaclue
  • Score: 5

5:08pm Wed 23 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

I get fed up with this no plan b lie that some use to moan about MP.
on many occasions MP has changed the formations and system, they may be minor changes but they are there!
with J-Rod out MP used gaston and lalla as a pair behind SRL, a change in formation. when we played Norwich away MP played SRL and Dani up front together, it didn't work and people were moaning that we didn't play our usual system.
MP does change things but his hands have been tied by all the different injuries we have had this year and by losing Dani, he was the obvious choice to change the formation.
I also cant understand why some fans who say negative things then get all aggressive when you rightly question them, this is an open forum and anyone can question anything someone else has posted, its called debating not being the `forum police!` or `being a bully` and just because your opinion is different to the majority that doesn't mean that you are `right, being honest or telling the truth` its an opinion that's all, and your opinion is no better than anyone else`s. I don't care if you don't like this but some people just have to get over themselves.
I get fed up with this no plan b lie that some use to moan about MP. on many occasions MP has changed the formations and system, they may be minor changes but they are there! with J-Rod out MP used gaston and lalla as a pair behind SRL, a change in formation. when we played Norwich away MP played SRL and Dani up front together, it didn't work and people were moaning that we didn't play our usual system. MP does change things but his hands have been tied by all the different injuries we have had this year and by losing Dani, he was the obvious choice to change the formation. I also cant understand why some fans who say negative things then get all aggressive when you rightly question them, this is an open forum and anyone can question anything someone else has posted, its called debating not being the `forum police!` or `being a bully` and just because your opinion is different to the majority that doesn't mean that you are `right, being honest or telling the truth` its an opinion that's all, and your opinion is no better than anyone else`s. I don't care if you don't like this but some people just have to get over themselves. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 2

5:26pm Wed 23 Apr 14

notaclue says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
I get fed up with this no plan b lie that some use to moan about MP.
on many occasions MP has changed the formations and system, they may be minor changes but they are there!
with J-Rod out MP used gaston and lalla as a pair behind SRL, a change in formation. when we played Norwich away MP played SRL and Dani up front together, it didn't work and people were moaning that we didn't play our usual system.
MP does change things but his hands have been tied by all the different injuries we have had this year and by losing Dani, he was the obvious choice to change the formation.
I also cant understand why some fans who say negative things then get all aggressive when you rightly question them, this is an open forum and anyone can question anything someone else has posted, its called debating not being the `forum police!` or `being a bully` and just because your opinion is different to the majority that doesn't mean that you are `right, being honest or telling the truth` its an opinion that's all, and your opinion is no better than anyone else`s. I don't care if you don't like this but some people just have to get over themselves.
Oh get over yourself.

Saying that he has a "PlanB" because he changes the team everytime we get an injury - now thats a good one.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: I get fed up with this no plan b lie that some use to moan about MP. on many occasions MP has changed the formations and system, they may be minor changes but they are there! with J-Rod out MP used gaston and lalla as a pair behind SRL, a change in formation. when we played Norwich away MP played SRL and Dani up front together, it didn't work and people were moaning that we didn't play our usual system. MP does change things but his hands have been tied by all the different injuries we have had this year and by losing Dani, he was the obvious choice to change the formation. I also cant understand why some fans who say negative things then get all aggressive when you rightly question them, this is an open forum and anyone can question anything someone else has posted, its called debating not being the `forum police!` or `being a bully` and just because your opinion is different to the majority that doesn't mean that you are `right, being honest or telling the truth` its an opinion that's all, and your opinion is no better than anyone else`s. I don't care if you don't like this but some people just have to get over themselves.[/p][/quote]Oh get over yourself. Saying that he has a "PlanB" because he changes the team everytime we get an injury - now thats a good one. notaclue
  • Score: 0

5:28pm Wed 23 Apr 14

SaintJD says...

notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
Errr, I think you're being a bit deluded. It's all very well saying we've done rubbish against the teams above us, but I think you need to take a passing look at the teams above us mate, many of whom we've given a good game this season: Man Utd, Everton, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea and Man City - that's all we have above us now. And we're rightly slightly disappointed not to be above one or two of those teams. So what does this tell us? That we need a Plan B?

I don't think so. If you look at our realistic aspirations, Arsenal don't have a plan B and they've finished top 4 for years, Liverpool don't have a plan B, neither to Man City, they just have slightly better quality. Spurs only plan is using pace and not playing well but winning, which is really all Mourinho does as well. Spain and Brazil internationally - do they have a plan B? Not really. Barcelona seem to be developing a Plan B now - and they are looking way poorer as a result.

Mo Po is a top manager and if sticking to your footballing beliefs is not having a Plan B, then great. I'd prefer to have Mo Po's plan A than Pullis or Big Sam's plan A, regardless of whether they end up on similar points to us.

All we need is extra quality in three or four positions and a bit more depth to the squad and Mo Po's single style of football will get us European football, which is the realistic next step.

And, even if he doesn't hit the same heights next season, he's still the man for us and we should do everything we can to hold on to him because he's perfect for the style of club we are creating.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]Errr, I think you're being a bit deluded. It's all very well saying we've done rubbish against the teams above us, but I think you need to take a passing look at the teams above us mate, many of whom we've given a good game this season: Man Utd, Everton, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea and Man City - that's all we have above us now. And we're rightly slightly disappointed not to be above one or two of those teams. So what does this tell us? That we need a Plan B? I don't think so. If you look at our realistic aspirations, Arsenal don't have a plan B and they've finished top 4 for years, Liverpool don't have a plan B, neither to Man City, they just have slightly better quality. Spurs only plan is using pace and not playing well but winning, which is really all Mourinho does as well. Spain and Brazil internationally - do they have a plan B? Not really. Barcelona seem to be developing a Plan B now - and they are looking way poorer as a result. Mo Po is a top manager and if sticking to your footballing beliefs is not having a Plan B, then great. I'd prefer to have Mo Po's plan A than Pullis or Big Sam's plan A, regardless of whether they end up on similar points to us. All we need is extra quality in three or four positions and a bit more depth to the squad and Mo Po's single style of football will get us European football, which is the realistic next step. And, even if he doesn't hit the same heights next season, he's still the man for us and we should do everything we can to hold on to him because he's perfect for the style of club we are creating. SaintJD
  • Score: 2

5:45pm Wed 23 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

notaclue wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
I get fed up with this no plan b lie that some use to moan about MP.
on many occasions MP has changed the formations and system, they may be minor changes but they are there!
with J-Rod out MP used gaston and lalla as a pair behind SRL, a change in formation. when we played Norwich away MP played SRL and Dani up front together, it didn't work and people were moaning that we didn't play our usual system.
MP does change things but his hands have been tied by all the different injuries we have had this year and by losing Dani, he was the obvious choice to change the formation.
I also cant understand why some fans who say negative things then get all aggressive when you rightly question them, this is an open forum and anyone can question anything someone else has posted, its called debating not being the `forum police!` or `being a bully` and just because your opinion is different to the majority that doesn't mean that you are `right, being honest or telling the truth` its an opinion that's all, and your opinion is no better than anyone else`s. I don't care if you don't like this but some people just have to get over themselves.
Oh get over yourself.

Saying that he has a "PlanB" because he changes the team everytime we get an injury - now thats a good one.
so being so full of your self that you cant understand what you have read is a trait with you is it?
if you read it again, which you wont because it doesn't fit in with the no plan b lie, you will also see that I said there have been `many` occasions where MP has changed the formation an system and I gave two, that's 2, examples of a system/formation change. 1, J-Rod being injured didn't force MP to change formation but he did. and 2. the formation change at Norwich, no injuries there to force a change, no MP changed the system all by himself, it didn't work and he was moaned at for changing our winning formation.
so that's just 2 examples given and you picked out 1 to comment on. if you cant see the changes in the style of play that's your problem. I bet you have never noticed that when Big Vic plays our full backs act more as wing backs and are able to get forward more, have a look next time you might just notice it! I wont hold my breath though!
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: I get fed up with this no plan b lie that some use to moan about MP. on many occasions MP has changed the formations and system, they may be minor changes but they are there! with J-Rod out MP used gaston and lalla as a pair behind SRL, a change in formation. when we played Norwich away MP played SRL and Dani up front together, it didn't work and people were moaning that we didn't play our usual system. MP does change things but his hands have been tied by all the different injuries we have had this year and by losing Dani, he was the obvious choice to change the formation. I also cant understand why some fans who say negative things then get all aggressive when you rightly question them, this is an open forum and anyone can question anything someone else has posted, its called debating not being the `forum police!` or `being a bully` and just because your opinion is different to the majority that doesn't mean that you are `right, being honest or telling the truth` its an opinion that's all, and your opinion is no better than anyone else`s. I don't care if you don't like this but some people just have to get over themselves.[/p][/quote]Oh get over yourself. Saying that he has a "PlanB" because he changes the team everytime we get an injury - now thats a good one.[/p][/quote]so being so full of your self that you cant understand what you have read is a trait with you is it? if you read it again, which you wont because it doesn't fit in with the no plan b lie, you will also see that I said there have been `many` occasions where MP has changed the formation an system and I gave two, that's 2, examples of a system/formation change. 1, J-Rod being injured didn't force MP to change formation but he did. and 2. the formation change at Norwich, no injuries there to force a change, no MP changed the system all by himself, it didn't work and he was moaned at for changing our winning formation. so that's just 2 examples given and you picked out 1 to comment on. if you cant see the changes in the style of play that's your problem. I bet you have never noticed that when Big Vic plays our full backs act more as wing backs and are able to get forward more, have a look next time you might just notice it! I wont hold my breath though! el caballo santos101
  • Score: -5

5:57pm Wed 23 Apr 14

notaclue says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
notaclue wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
I get fed up with this no plan b lie that some use to moan about MP.
on many occasions MP has changed the formations and system, they may be minor changes but they are there!
with J-Rod out MP used gaston and lalla as a pair behind SRL, a change in formation. when we played Norwich away MP played SRL and Dani up front together, it didn't work and people were moaning that we didn't play our usual system.
MP does change things but his hands have been tied by all the different injuries we have had this year and by losing Dani, he was the obvious choice to change the formation.
I also cant understand why some fans who say negative things then get all aggressive when you rightly question them, this is an open forum and anyone can question anything someone else has posted, its called debating not being the `forum police!` or `being a bully` and just because your opinion is different to the majority that doesn't mean that you are `right, being honest or telling the truth` its an opinion that's all, and your opinion is no better than anyone else`s. I don't care if you don't like this but some people just have to get over themselves.
Oh get over yourself.

Saying that he has a "PlanB" because he changes the team everytime we get an injury - now thats a good one.
so being so full of your self that you cant understand what you have read is a trait with you is it?
if you read it again, which you wont because it doesn't fit in with the no plan b lie, you will also see that I said there have been `many` occasions where MP has changed the formation an system and I gave two, that's 2, examples of a system/formation change. 1, J-Rod being injured didn't force MP to change formation but he did. and 2. the formation change at Norwich, no injuries there to force a change, no MP changed the system all by himself, it didn't work and he was moaned at for changing our winning formation.
so that's just 2 examples given and you picked out 1 to comment on. if you cant see the changes in the style of play that's your problem. I bet you have never noticed that when Big Vic plays our full backs act more as wing backs and are able to get forward more, have a look next time you might just notice it! I wont hold my breath though!
When I say we should have a "plan B" I meant one that worked you donkey.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: I get fed up with this no plan b lie that some use to moan about MP. on many occasions MP has changed the formations and system, they may be minor changes but they are there! with J-Rod out MP used gaston and lalla as a pair behind SRL, a change in formation. when we played Norwich away MP played SRL and Dani up front together, it didn't work and people were moaning that we didn't play our usual system. MP does change things but his hands have been tied by all the different injuries we have had this year and by losing Dani, he was the obvious choice to change the formation. I also cant understand why some fans who say negative things then get all aggressive when you rightly question them, this is an open forum and anyone can question anything someone else has posted, its called debating not being the `forum police!` or `being a bully` and just because your opinion is different to the majority that doesn't mean that you are `right, being honest or telling the truth` its an opinion that's all, and your opinion is no better than anyone else`s. I don't care if you don't like this but some people just have to get over themselves.[/p][/quote]Oh get over yourself. Saying that he has a "PlanB" because he changes the team everytime we get an injury - now thats a good one.[/p][/quote]so being so full of your self that you cant understand what you have read is a trait with you is it? if you read it again, which you wont because it doesn't fit in with the no plan b lie, you will also see that I said there have been `many` occasions where MP has changed the formation an system and I gave two, that's 2, examples of a system/formation change. 1, J-Rod being injured didn't force MP to change formation but he did. and 2. the formation change at Norwich, no injuries there to force a change, no MP changed the system all by himself, it didn't work and he was moaned at for changing our winning formation. so that's just 2 examples given and you picked out 1 to comment on. if you cant see the changes in the style of play that's your problem. I bet you have never noticed that when Big Vic plays our full backs act more as wing backs and are able to get forward more, have a look next time you might just notice it! I wont hold my breath though![/p][/quote]When I say we should have a "plan B" I meant one that worked you donkey. notaclue
  • Score: 3

6:36pm Wed 23 Apr 14

notaclue says...

I just think that there are too many times when we have all the possession and don't do anything unpredictable enough with it, we also haven't really tried to buy pace up front then we got rid of Punch???
When we can't break some teams down we just carry on regardless and then get hit by the long ball payed up to their pace merchant making use of the space left by our wingbacks being up the field and Bang - goal? Queue interiew where we say we bossed the game and it was a cruel result and we didin't deserve to lose - then repeat it next week.
I just think that there are too many times when we have all the possession and don't do anything unpredictable enough with it, we also haven't really tried to buy pace up front then we got rid of Punch??? When we can't break some teams down we just carry on regardless and then get hit by the long ball payed up to their pace merchant making use of the space left by our wingbacks being up the field and Bang - goal? Queue interiew where we say we bossed the game and it was a cruel result and we didin't deserve to lose - then repeat it next week. notaclue
  • Score: 5

7:30pm Wed 23 Apr 14

warrens 76 says...

notaclue wrote:
I just think that there are too many times when we have all the possession and don't do anything unpredictable enough with it, we also haven't really tried to buy pace up front then we got rid of Punch???
When we can't break some teams down we just carry on regardless and then get hit by the long ball payed up to their pace merchant making use of the space left by our wingbacks being up the field and Bang - goal? Queue interiew where we say we bossed the game and it was a cruel result and we didin't deserve to lose - then repeat it next week.
We all hate it when it's true, unfortunately it is…guile ie that extra bit of class is needed because everything else is there.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I just think that there are too many times when we have all the possession and don't do anything unpredictable enough with it, we also haven't really tried to buy pace up front then we got rid of Punch??? When we can't break some teams down we just carry on regardless and then get hit by the long ball payed up to their pace merchant making use of the space left by our wingbacks being up the field and Bang - goal? Queue interiew where we say we bossed the game and it was a cruel result and we didin't deserve to lose - then repeat it next week.[/p][/quote]We all hate it when it's true, unfortunately it is…guile ie that extra bit of class is needed because everything else is there. warrens 76
  • Score: 5

7:30pm Wed 23 Apr 14

warrens 76 says...

notaclue wrote:
I just think that there are too many times when we have all the possession and don't do anything unpredictable enough with it, we also haven't really tried to buy pace up front then we got rid of Punch???
When we can't break some teams down we just carry on regardless and then get hit by the long ball payed up to their pace merchant making use of the space left by our wingbacks being up the field and Bang - goal? Queue interiew where we say we bossed the game and it was a cruel result and we didin't deserve to lose - then repeat it next week.
We all hate it when it's true, unfortunately it is…guile ie that extra bit of class is needed because everything else is there.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I just think that there are too many times when we have all the possession and don't do anything unpredictable enough with it, we also haven't really tried to buy pace up front then we got rid of Punch??? When we can't break some teams down we just carry on regardless and then get hit by the long ball payed up to their pace merchant making use of the space left by our wingbacks being up the field and Bang - goal? Queue interiew where we say we bossed the game and it was a cruel result and we didin't deserve to lose - then repeat it next week.[/p][/quote]We all hate it when it's true, unfortunately it is…guile ie that extra bit of class is needed because everything else is there. warrens 76
  • Score: 5

7:33pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Baddesley Bill says...

Brace yourselves fellow fans..we've got at least another three months of these media rumours ahead of us!
Brace yourselves fellow fans..we've got at least another three months of these media rumours ahead of us! Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 2

7:43pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Freddie Flowerpot says...

Spurs would be a good move for him, though word is they want someone who's won a trophy and has CL experience, (quite why this would bother Spurs, I don't know!)
Spurs would be a good move for him, though word is they want someone who's won a trophy and has CL experience, (quite why this would bother Spurs, I don't know!) Freddie Flowerpot
  • Score: -5

8:03pm Wed 23 Apr 14

slugger says...

Seems to me that there's only one poster on here being abusive because people don't agree . I take it as a compliment that so many of our players and our manager are being linked all over the place . "There's only one thing worse than being talked about ........"
Seems to me that there's only one poster on here being abusive because people don't agree . I take it as a compliment that so many of our players and our manager are being linked all over the place . "There's only one thing worse than being talked about ........" slugger
  • Score: 2

8:36pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Rank Xerox says...

I've taken the odds at put £20 on it being a done deal!
I've taken the odds at put £20 on it being a done deal! Rank Xerox
  • Score: -2

8:55pm Wed 23 Apr 14

arfer phesache says...

Rank Xerox wrote:
I've taken the odds at put £20 on it being a done deal!
It's your money....... waste it how you like.....
[quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: I've taken the odds at put £20 on it being a done deal![/p][/quote]It's your money....... waste it how you like..... arfer phesache
  • Score: 0

9:05pm Wed 23 Apr 14

arfer phesache says...

Plan A, plan B, what a load of old cobblers, The game changes by the minute, that's what the technical area is for. The manager/ coach is chucking out instructions right throughout he game. Then the other coach tries to counteract whatever those changes where, an so on and so forth.
Plan A, plan B, what a load of old cobblers, The game changes by the minute, that's what the technical area is for. The manager/ coach is chucking out instructions right throughout he game. Then the other coach tries to counteract whatever those changes where, an so on and so forth. arfer phesache
  • Score: 0

9:07pm Wed 23 Apr 14

slugger says...

arfer phesache wrote:
Plan A, plan B, what a load of old cobblers, The game changes by the minute, that's what the technical area is for. The manager/ coach is chucking out instructions right throughout he game. Then the other coach tries to counteract whatever those changes where, an so on and so forth.
Spot on .
[quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: Plan A, plan B, what a load of old cobblers, The game changes by the minute, that's what the technical area is for. The manager/ coach is chucking out instructions right throughout he game. Then the other coach tries to counteract whatever those changes where, an so on and so forth.[/p][/quote]Spot on . slugger
  • Score: 3

9:13pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Velleity says...

notaclue wrote:
I just think that there are too many times when we have all the possession and don't do anything unpredictable enough with it, we also haven't really tried to buy pace up front then we got rid of Punch???
When we can't break some teams down we just carry on regardless and then get hit by the long ball payed up to their pace merchant making use of the space left by our wingbacks being up the field and Bang - goal? Queue interiew where we say we bossed the game and it was a cruel result and we didin't deserve to lose - then repeat it next week.
Oh Lordy, if I read "we got rid of punch" again my head's going to pop. Punchy asked to go! You (and your brethren) act like we asked him to go. Cortese did everything he could to keep him but he still wanted to go. Which part of that do you not get? What were we meant to do, chain him onto the pitch?

Our tactics have been so one dimensional that we're stuck down in eighth position. What position were you predicting at the start of the season. Third? Second?
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I just think that there are too many times when we have all the possession and don't do anything unpredictable enough with it, we also haven't really tried to buy pace up front then we got rid of Punch??? When we can't break some teams down we just carry on regardless and then get hit by the long ball payed up to their pace merchant making use of the space left by our wingbacks being up the field and Bang - goal? Queue interiew where we say we bossed the game and it was a cruel result and we didin't deserve to lose - then repeat it next week.[/p][/quote]Oh Lordy, if I read "we got rid of punch" again my head's going to pop. Punchy asked to go! You (and your brethren) act like we asked him to go. Cortese did everything he could to keep him but he still wanted to go. Which part of that do you not get? What were we meant to do, chain him onto the pitch? Our tactics have been so one dimensional that we're stuck down in eighth position. What position were you predicting at the start of the season. Third? Second? Velleity
  • Score: 1

9:31pm Wed 23 Apr 14

apm1954 says...

yawn same old echo
yawn same old echo apm1954
  • Score: 0

9:39pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Baddesley Bill says...

Velleity wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I just think that there are too many times when we have all the possession and don't do anything unpredictable enough with it, we also haven't really tried to buy pace up front then we got rid of Punch???
When we can't break some teams down we just carry on regardless and then get hit by the long ball payed up to their pace merchant making use of the space left by our wingbacks being up the field and Bang - goal? Queue interiew where we say we bossed the game and it was a cruel result and we didin't deserve to lose - then repeat it next week.
Oh Lordy, if I read "we got rid of punch" again my head's going to pop. Punchy asked to go! You (and your brethren) act like we asked him to go. Cortese did everything he could to keep him but he still wanted to go. Which part of that do you not get? What were we meant to do, chain him onto the pitch?

Our tactics have been so one dimensional that we're stuck down in eighth position. What position were you predicting at the start of the season. Third? Second?
The clue is in the name I guess :O)
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I just think that there are too many times when we have all the possession and don't do anything unpredictable enough with it, we also haven't really tried to buy pace up front then we got rid of Punch??? When we can't break some teams down we just carry on regardless and then get hit by the long ball payed up to their pace merchant making use of the space left by our wingbacks being up the field and Bang - goal? Queue interiew where we say we bossed the game and it was a cruel result and we didin't deserve to lose - then repeat it next week.[/p][/quote]Oh Lordy, if I read "we got rid of punch" again my head's going to pop. Punchy asked to go! You (and your brethren) act like we asked him to go. Cortese did everything he could to keep him but he still wanted to go. Which part of that do you not get? What were we meant to do, chain him onto the pitch? Our tactics have been so one dimensional that we're stuck down in eighth position. What position were you predicting at the start of the season. Third? Second?[/p][/quote]The clue is in the name I guess :O) Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 4

9:52pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Velleity says...

JT Saturday, Bill? Long time no see.
JT Saturday, Bill? Long time no see. Velleity
  • Score: -1

10:09pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Baddesley Bill says...

Velleity wrote:
JT Saturday, Bill? Long time no see.
Of course...see you there! :O)
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: JT Saturday, Bill? Long time no see.[/p][/quote]Of course...see you there! :O) Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 0

10:22pm Wed 23 Apr 14

slugger says...

This site has got well boring ......... It needs spicing up !
This site has got well boring ......... It needs spicing up ! slugger
  • Score: 0

10:24pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Velleity says...

slugger wrote:
This site has got well boring ......... It needs spicing up !
I'm typing naked. Is that exciting enough?
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: This site has got well boring ......... It needs spicing up ![/p][/quote]I'm typing naked. Is that exciting enough? Velleity
  • Score: 0

10:27pm Wed 23 Apr 14

slugger says...

Velleity wrote:
slugger wrote:
This site has got well boring ......... It needs spicing up !
I'm typing naked. Is that exciting enough?
Good effort but doomed to failure .
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: This site has got well boring ......... It needs spicing up ![/p][/quote]I'm typing naked. Is that exciting enough?[/p][/quote]Good effort but doomed to failure . slugger
  • Score: 1

11:09pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

george chivers wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
george chivers wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.
George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?
I told you that was true and explained why but I think you are too thick to understand it.
I don't think I ever saw an explanation from you.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.[/p][/quote]George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?[/p][/quote]I told you that was true and explained why but I think you are too thick to understand it.[/p][/quote]I don't think I ever saw an explanation from you. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

11:20pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
george chivers wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.
George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?
Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.
It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.[/p][/quote]George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?[/p][/quote]Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.[/p][/quote]It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions. Rising_Son
  • Score: -1

11:25pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Rooflas says...

Velleity wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I just think that there are too many times when we have all the possession and don't do anything unpredictable enough with it, we also haven't really tried to buy pace up front then we got rid of Punch???
When we can't break some teams down we just carry on regardless and then get hit by the long ball payed up to their pace merchant making use of the space left by our wingbacks being up the field and Bang - goal? Queue interiew where we say we bossed the game and it was a cruel result and we didin't deserve to lose - then repeat it next week.
Oh Lordy, if I read "we got rid of punch" again my head's going to pop. Punchy asked to go! You (and your brethren) act like we asked him to go. Cortese did everything he could to keep him but he still wanted to go. Which part of that do you not get? What were we meant to do, chain him onto the pitch?

Our tactics have been so one dimensional that we're stuck down in eighth position. What position were you predicting at the start of the season. Third? Second?
Where have you got you're information from?
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I just think that there are too many times when we have all the possession and don't do anything unpredictable enough with it, we also haven't really tried to buy pace up front then we got rid of Punch??? When we can't break some teams down we just carry on regardless and then get hit by the long ball payed up to their pace merchant making use of the space left by our wingbacks being up the field and Bang - goal? Queue interiew where we say we bossed the game and it was a cruel result and we didin't deserve to lose - then repeat it next week.[/p][/quote]Oh Lordy, if I read "we got rid of punch" again my head's going to pop. Punchy asked to go! You (and your brethren) act like we asked him to go. Cortese did everything he could to keep him but he still wanted to go. Which part of that do you not get? What were we meant to do, chain him onto the pitch? Our tactics have been so one dimensional that we're stuck down in eighth position. What position were you predicting at the start of the season. Third? Second?[/p][/quote]Where have you got you're information from? Rooflas
  • Score: 2

1:27am Thu 24 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
george chivers wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.
George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?
Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.
It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.
what he means is that if you don't post the negative rubbish that some do then you are not being `honest` or `truthful` or `balanced`. you see some posters like to make things up in their heads and call it the truth. take this `no plan b` nonsense, when you explain to them that MP has always changed style and formations using different players at different times and in different ways they go from moaning to being abusive, and now despite repeatedly claiming there is `no plan b` there is acknowledgement of `plan b` but that' its not good enough because it doesn't always work! well if `plan b` was guaranteed to work every time wouldn't we start with it?
personally I quite like the fact that we have a way of playing and stick to it, why change to suit other teams? make them change to suit you. that's what pep guardiola was talking about when asked about MP`s tactics "There are teams that wait for you and teams that look for you: Espanyol look for you. I feel very close to their style of football" well if its good enough for pep its good enough for me!
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.[/p][/quote]George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?[/p][/quote]Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.[/p][/quote]It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.[/p][/quote]what he means is that if you don't post the negative rubbish that some do then you are not being `honest` or `truthful` or `balanced`. you see some posters like to make things up in their heads and call it the truth. take this `no plan b` nonsense, when you explain to them that MP has always changed style and formations using different players at different times and in different ways they go from moaning to being abusive, and now despite repeatedly claiming there is `no plan b` there is acknowledgement of `plan b` but that' its not good enough because it doesn't always work! well if `plan b` was guaranteed to work every time wouldn't we start with it? personally I quite like the fact that we have a way of playing and stick to it, why change to suit other teams? make them change to suit you. that's what pep guardiola was talking about when asked about MP`s tactics "There are teams that wait for you and teams that look for you: Espanyol look for you. I feel very close to their style of football" well if its good enough for pep its good enough for me! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

1:34am Thu 24 Apr 14

notaclue says...

Velleity wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I just think that there are too many times when we have all the possession and don't do anything unpredictable enough with it, we also haven't really tried to buy pace up front then we got rid of Punch???
When we can't break some teams down we just carry on regardless and then get hit by the long ball payed up to their pace merchant making use of the space left by our wingbacks being up the field and Bang - goal? Queue interiew where we say we bossed the game and it was a cruel result and we didin't deserve to lose - then repeat it next week.
Oh Lordy, if I read "we got rid of punch" again my head's going to pop. Punchy asked to go! You (and your brethren) act like we asked him to go. Cortese did everything he could to keep him but he still wanted to go. Which part of that do you not get? What were we meant to do, chain him onto the pitch?

Our tactics have been so one dimensional that we're stuck down in eighth position. What position were you predicting at the start of the season. Third? Second?
Rooney and Suarez also asked to leave and if they had they would have been repaced, we did nothing.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I just think that there are too many times when we have all the possession and don't do anything unpredictable enough with it, we also haven't really tried to buy pace up front then we got rid of Punch??? When we can't break some teams down we just carry on regardless and then get hit by the long ball payed up to their pace merchant making use of the space left by our wingbacks being up the field and Bang - goal? Queue interiew where we say we bossed the game and it was a cruel result and we didin't deserve to lose - then repeat it next week.[/p][/quote]Oh Lordy, if I read "we got rid of punch" again my head's going to pop. Punchy asked to go! You (and your brethren) act like we asked him to go. Cortese did everything he could to keep him but he still wanted to go. Which part of that do you not get? What were we meant to do, chain him onto the pitch? Our tactics have been so one dimensional that we're stuck down in eighth position. What position were you predicting at the start of the season. Third? Second?[/p][/quote]Rooney and Suarez also asked to leave and if they had they would have been repaced, we did nothing. notaclue
  • Score: 1

5:09am Thu 24 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
george chivers wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.
George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?
Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.
It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.
what he means is that if you don't post the negative rubbish that some do then you are not being `honest` or `truthful` or `balanced`. you see some posters like to make things up in their heads and call it the truth. take this `no plan b` nonsense, when you explain to them that MP has always changed style and formations using different players at different times and in different ways they go from moaning to being abusive, and now despite repeatedly claiming there is `no plan b` there is acknowledgement of `plan b` but that' its not good enough because it doesn't always work! well if `plan b` was guaranteed to work every time wouldn't we start with it?
personally I quite like the fact that we have a way of playing and stick to it, why change to suit other teams? make them change to suit you. that's what pep guardiola was talking about when asked about MP`s tactics "There are teams that wait for you and teams that look for you: Espanyol look for you. I feel very close to their style of football" well if its good enough for pep its good enough for me!
I love the way we play. All we need is a bit more depth in the squad, a bit more sharpness in front of goal and a bit more luck with the officials, and I reckon we will be knocking on the door of something very, very big.

Now, Andy, just a couple of quick questions:
What's wrong with that?
Why do questions bother you so much?
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.[/p][/quote]George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?[/p][/quote]Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.[/p][/quote]It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.[/p][/quote]what he means is that if you don't post the negative rubbish that some do then you are not being `honest` or `truthful` or `balanced`. you see some posters like to make things up in their heads and call it the truth. take this `no plan b` nonsense, when you explain to them that MP has always changed style and formations using different players at different times and in different ways they go from moaning to being abusive, and now despite repeatedly claiming there is `no plan b` there is acknowledgement of `plan b` but that' its not good enough because it doesn't always work! well if `plan b` was guaranteed to work every time wouldn't we start with it? personally I quite like the fact that we have a way of playing and stick to it, why change to suit other teams? make them change to suit you. that's what pep guardiola was talking about when asked about MP`s tactics "There are teams that wait for you and teams that look for you: Espanyol look for you. I feel very close to their style of football" well if its good enough for pep its good enough for me![/p][/quote]I love the way we play. All we need is a bit more depth in the squad, a bit more sharpness in front of goal and a bit more luck with the officials, and I reckon we will be knocking on the door of something very, very big. Now, Andy, just a couple of quick questions: What's wrong with that? Why do questions bother you so much? Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

6:35am Thu 24 Apr 14

Velleity says...

notaclue wrote:
Velleity wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I just think that there are too many times when we have all the possession and don't do anything unpredictable enough with it, we also haven't really tried to buy pace up front then we got rid of Punch???
When we can't break some teams down we just carry on regardless and then get hit by the long ball payed up to their pace merchant making use of the space left by our wingbacks being up the field and Bang - goal? Queue interiew where we say we bossed the game and it was a cruel result and we didin't deserve to lose - then repeat it next week.
Oh Lordy, if I read "we got rid of punch" again my head's going to pop. Punchy asked to go! You (and your brethren) act like we asked him to go. Cortese did everything he could to keep him but he still wanted to go. Which part of that do you not get? What were we meant to do, chain him onto the pitch?

Our tactics have been so one dimensional that we're stuck down in eighth position. What position were you predicting at the start of the season. Third? Second?
Rooney and Suarez also asked to leave and if they had they would have been repaced, we did nothing.
Whathave Rooney and Suarez got to do with this (rhetorical question; don't answer).

You said "We got rid of Punch". We didn't.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I just think that there are too many times when we have all the possession and don't do anything unpredictable enough with it, we also haven't really tried to buy pace up front then we got rid of Punch??? When we can't break some teams down we just carry on regardless and then get hit by the long ball payed up to their pace merchant making use of the space left by our wingbacks being up the field and Bang - goal? Queue interiew where we say we bossed the game and it was a cruel result and we didin't deserve to lose - then repeat it next week.[/p][/quote]Oh Lordy, if I read "we got rid of punch" again my head's going to pop. Punchy asked to go! You (and your brethren) act like we asked him to go. Cortese did everything he could to keep him but he still wanted to go. Which part of that do you not get? What were we meant to do, chain him onto the pitch? Our tactics have been so one dimensional that we're stuck down in eighth position. What position were you predicting at the start of the season. Third? Second?[/p][/quote]Rooney and Suarez also asked to leave and if they had they would have been repaced, we did nothing.[/p][/quote]Whathave Rooney and Suarez got to do with this (rhetorical question; don't answer). You said "We got rid of Punch". We didn't. Velleity
  • Score: 1

7:01am Thu 24 Apr 14

redandy10 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
george chivers wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.
George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?
Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.
It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.
I don't mind questions per se, only when somebody continually asks them to try and undermine other poster's views. In short you are part of a little group whose posts are mainly attacks on other posters for being too negative. This seems to be collectively your main reason for posting on this thread, instead of actually coming on here and voicing an actual opinion. The truth is when you ask these questions you don't really care about the person's reply, you just want to undermine their post in a passive aggressive fashion.

The topper is that in this way you lot are actually the most negative posters on this thread. Others agree to disagree, but it's always you lot who are the first to start getting snide.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.[/p][/quote]George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?[/p][/quote]Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.[/p][/quote]It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.[/p][/quote]I don't mind questions per se, only when somebody continually asks them to try and undermine other poster's views. In short you are part of a little group whose posts are mainly attacks on other posters for being too negative. This seems to be collectively your main reason for posting on this thread, instead of actually coming on here and voicing an actual opinion. The truth is when you ask these questions you don't really care about the person's reply, you just want to undermine their post in a passive aggressive fashion. The topper is that in this way you lot are actually the most negative posters on this thread. Others agree to disagree, but it's always you lot who are the first to start getting snide. redandy10
  • Score: 1

8:26am Thu 24 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
george chivers wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.
George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?
Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.
It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.
I don't mind questions per se, only when somebody continually asks them to try and undermine other poster's views. In short you are part of a little group whose posts are mainly attacks on other posters for being too negative. This seems to be collectively your main reason for posting on this thread, instead of actually coming on here and voicing an actual opinion. The truth is when you ask these questions you don't really care about the person's reply, you just want to undermine their post in a passive aggressive fashion.

The topper is that in this way you lot are actually the most negative posters on this thread. Others agree to disagree, but it's always you lot who are the first to start getting snide.
I ask questions because I think people are responsible for what they write. If someone's opinion doesn't make sense to me, I like to find out why they think that way. In some cases, I learn something or become aware of something that I hadn't considered. Unfortunately, a fair number of posters get like you; aggressively defensive. It is not my questions that undermine your and their posts. It is your and their inability to answer the questions that undermine them.

I will admit I was a bit nasty to George in a recent comment, but 'snide' I think not.

Btw, I do give my opinions on here, and you are free to disagree with them and ask me questions about them. They tend to brief and tentative because I am very aware that I do not know enough about what is happening to say much with certainty. They also tend to be optimistic because I am optimistic.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.[/p][/quote]George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?[/p][/quote]Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.[/p][/quote]It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.[/p][/quote]I don't mind questions per se, only when somebody continually asks them to try and undermine other poster's views. In short you are part of a little group whose posts are mainly attacks on other posters for being too negative. This seems to be collectively your main reason for posting on this thread, instead of actually coming on here and voicing an actual opinion. The truth is when you ask these questions you don't really care about the person's reply, you just want to undermine their post in a passive aggressive fashion. The topper is that in this way you lot are actually the most negative posters on this thread. Others agree to disagree, but it's always you lot who are the first to start getting snide.[/p][/quote]I ask questions because I think people are responsible for what they write. If someone's opinion doesn't make sense to me, I like to find out why they think that way. In some cases, I learn something or become aware of something that I hadn't considered. Unfortunately, a fair number of posters get like you; aggressively defensive. It is not my questions that undermine your and their posts. It is your and their inability to answer the questions that undermine them. I will admit I was a bit nasty to George in a recent comment, but 'snide' I think not. Btw, I do give my opinions on here, and you are free to disagree with them and ask me questions about them. They tend to brief and tentative because I am very aware that I do not know enough about what is happening to say much with certainty. They also tend to be optimistic because I am optimistic. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

9:07am Thu 24 Apr 14

redandy10 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
george chivers wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.
George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?
Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.
It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.
I don't mind questions per se, only when somebody continually asks them to try and undermine other poster's views. In short you are part of a little group whose posts are mainly attacks on other posters for being too negative. This seems to be collectively your main reason for posting on this thread, instead of actually coming on here and voicing an actual opinion. The truth is when you ask these questions you don't really care about the person's reply, you just want to undermine their post in a passive aggressive fashion.

The topper is that in this way you lot are actually the most negative posters on this thread. Others agree to disagree, but it's always you lot who are the first to start getting snide.
I ask questions because I think people are responsible for what they write. If someone's opinion doesn't make sense to me, I like to find out why they think that way. In some cases, I learn something or become aware of something that I hadn't considered. Unfortunately, a fair number of posters get like you; aggressively defensive. It is not my questions that undermine your and their posts. It is your and their inability to answer the questions that undermine them.

I will admit I was a bit nasty to George in a recent comment, but 'snide' I think not.

Btw, I do give my opinions on here, and you are free to disagree with them and ask me questions about them. They tend to brief and tentative because I am very aware that I do not know enough about what is happening to say much with certainty. They also tend to be optimistic because I am optimistic.
But don't you think you owe poor old George an apology , both contrite and jam packed full of ers and ars? Your Rumpole style cross examination of him would have cut even the toughest of us to the quick.

And while you're at it how about throwing a few jeez and I didn't mean it a certain someone's way. Have I not been that witness on the stand, answering your rapid fire questions, stammering away as the validity of my argument slowly crumbles around me, punctuated only by pauses to take sips from a glass of water and to wipe the sweat from my brow?
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.[/p][/quote]George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?[/p][/quote]Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.[/p][/quote]It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.[/p][/quote]I don't mind questions per se, only when somebody continually asks them to try and undermine other poster's views. In short you are part of a little group whose posts are mainly attacks on other posters for being too negative. This seems to be collectively your main reason for posting on this thread, instead of actually coming on here and voicing an actual opinion. The truth is when you ask these questions you don't really care about the person's reply, you just want to undermine their post in a passive aggressive fashion. The topper is that in this way you lot are actually the most negative posters on this thread. Others agree to disagree, but it's always you lot who are the first to start getting snide.[/p][/quote]I ask questions because I think people are responsible for what they write. If someone's opinion doesn't make sense to me, I like to find out why they think that way. In some cases, I learn something or become aware of something that I hadn't considered. Unfortunately, a fair number of posters get like you; aggressively defensive. It is not my questions that undermine your and their posts. It is your and their inability to answer the questions that undermine them. I will admit I was a bit nasty to George in a recent comment, but 'snide' I think not. Btw, I do give my opinions on here, and you are free to disagree with them and ask me questions about them. They tend to brief and tentative because I am very aware that I do not know enough about what is happening to say much with certainty. They also tend to be optimistic because I am optimistic.[/p][/quote]But don't you think you owe poor old George an apology , both contrite and jam packed full of ers and ars? Your Rumpole style cross examination of him would have cut even the toughest of us to the quick. And while you're at it how about throwing a few jeez and I didn't mean it a certain someone's way. Have I not been that witness on the stand, answering your rapid fire questions, stammering away as the validity of my argument slowly crumbles around me, punctuated only by pauses to take sips from a glass of water and to wipe the sweat from my brow? redandy10
  • Score: 2

10:20am Thu 24 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
george chivers wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.
George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?
Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.
It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.
I don't mind questions per se, only when somebody continually asks them to try and undermine other poster's views. In short you are part of a little group whose posts are mainly attacks on other posters for being too negative. This seems to be collectively your main reason for posting on this thread, instead of actually coming on here and voicing an actual opinion. The truth is when you ask these questions you don't really care about the person's reply, you just want to undermine their post in a passive aggressive fashion.

The topper is that in this way you lot are actually the most negative posters on this thread. Others agree to disagree, but it's always you lot who are the first to start getting snide.
I ask questions because I think people are responsible for what they write. If someone's opinion doesn't make sense to me, I like to find out why they think that way. In some cases, I learn something or become aware of something that I hadn't considered. Unfortunately, a fair number of posters get like you; aggressively defensive. It is not my questions that undermine your and their posts. It is your and their inability to answer the questions that undermine them.

I will admit I was a bit nasty to George in a recent comment, but 'snide' I think not.

Btw, I do give my opinions on here, and you are free to disagree with them and ask me questions about them. They tend to brief and tentative because I am very aware that I do not know enough about what is happening to say much with certainty. They also tend to be optimistic because I am optimistic.
But don't you think you owe poor old George an apology , both contrite and jam packed full of ers and ars? Your Rumpole style cross examination of him would have cut even the toughest of us to the quick.

And while you're at it how about throwing a few jeez and I didn't mean it a certain someone's way. Have I not been that witness on the stand, answering your rapid fire questions, stammering away as the validity of my argument slowly crumbles around me, punctuated only by pauses to take sips from a glass of water and to wipe the sweat from my brow?
You certainly have a very fertile imagination. I would never have imagined this site as being anything like a courtroom.

Maybe George deserves an apology though.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.[/p][/quote]George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?[/p][/quote]Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.[/p][/quote]It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.[/p][/quote]I don't mind questions per se, only when somebody continually asks them to try and undermine other poster's views. In short you are part of a little group whose posts are mainly attacks on other posters for being too negative. This seems to be collectively your main reason for posting on this thread, instead of actually coming on here and voicing an actual opinion. The truth is when you ask these questions you don't really care about the person's reply, you just want to undermine their post in a passive aggressive fashion. The topper is that in this way you lot are actually the most negative posters on this thread. Others agree to disagree, but it's always you lot who are the first to start getting snide.[/p][/quote]I ask questions because I think people are responsible for what they write. If someone's opinion doesn't make sense to me, I like to find out why they think that way. In some cases, I learn something or become aware of something that I hadn't considered. Unfortunately, a fair number of posters get like you; aggressively defensive. It is not my questions that undermine your and their posts. It is your and their inability to answer the questions that undermine them. I will admit I was a bit nasty to George in a recent comment, but 'snide' I think not. Btw, I do give my opinions on here, and you are free to disagree with them and ask me questions about them. They tend to brief and tentative because I am very aware that I do not know enough about what is happening to say much with certainty. They also tend to be optimistic because I am optimistic.[/p][/quote]But don't you think you owe poor old George an apology , both contrite and jam packed full of ers and ars? Your Rumpole style cross examination of him would have cut even the toughest of us to the quick. And while you're at it how about throwing a few jeez and I didn't mean it a certain someone's way. Have I not been that witness on the stand, answering your rapid fire questions, stammering away as the validity of my argument slowly crumbles around me, punctuated only by pauses to take sips from a glass of water and to wipe the sweat from my brow?[/p][/quote]You certainly have a very fertile imagination. I would never have imagined this site as being anything like a courtroom. Maybe George deserves an apology though. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

10:31am Thu 24 Apr 14

Positively4thStreet says...

redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
george chivers wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.
George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?
Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.
It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.
I don't mind questions per se, only when somebody continually asks them to try and undermine other poster's views. In short you are part of a little group whose posts are mainly attacks on other posters for being too negative. This seems to be collectively your main reason for posting on this thread, instead of actually coming on here and voicing an actual opinion. The truth is when you ask these questions you don't really care about the person's reply, you just want to undermine their post in a passive aggressive fashion.

The topper is that in this way you lot are actually the most negative posters on this thread. Others agree to disagree, but it's always you lot who are the first to start getting snide.
I once asked if Paul Jones and Anti Nemi once played on opposing sides in an international match,while both signed with Saints...nobody ever answered.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.[/p][/quote]George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?[/p][/quote]Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.[/p][/quote]It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.[/p][/quote]I don't mind questions per se, only when somebody continually asks them to try and undermine other poster's views. In short you are part of a little group whose posts are mainly attacks on other posters for being too negative. This seems to be collectively your main reason for posting on this thread, instead of actually coming on here and voicing an actual opinion. The truth is when you ask these questions you don't really care about the person's reply, you just want to undermine their post in a passive aggressive fashion. The topper is that in this way you lot are actually the most negative posters on this thread. Others agree to disagree, but it's always you lot who are the first to start getting snide.[/p][/quote]I once asked if Paul Jones and Anti Nemi once played on opposing sides in an international match,while both signed with Saints...nobody ever answered. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

11:29am Thu 24 Apr 14

redandy10 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
george chivers wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.
George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?
Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.
It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.
I don't mind questions per se, only when somebody continually asks them to try and undermine other poster's views. In short you are part of a little group whose posts are mainly attacks on other posters for being too negative. This seems to be collectively your main reason for posting on this thread, instead of actually coming on here and voicing an actual opinion. The truth is when you ask these questions you don't really care about the person's reply, you just want to undermine their post in a passive aggressive fashion.

The topper is that in this way you lot are actually the most negative posters on this thread. Others agree to disagree, but it's always you lot who are the first to start getting snide.
I once asked if Paul Jones and Anti Nemi once played on opposing sides in an international match,while both signed with Saints...nobody ever answered.
I know what you mean. I once asked for the time, but all I was given was a latest score update. It was either Jeff Sterling moonlighting or his biggest fan.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.[/p][/quote]George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?[/p][/quote]Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.[/p][/quote]It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.[/p][/quote]I don't mind questions per se, only when somebody continually asks them to try and undermine other poster's views. In short you are part of a little group whose posts are mainly attacks on other posters for being too negative. This seems to be collectively your main reason for posting on this thread, instead of actually coming on here and voicing an actual opinion. The truth is when you ask these questions you don't really care about the person's reply, you just want to undermine their post in a passive aggressive fashion. The topper is that in this way you lot are actually the most negative posters on this thread. Others agree to disagree, but it's always you lot who are the first to start getting snide.[/p][/quote]I once asked if Paul Jones and Anti Nemi once played on opposing sides in an international match,while both signed with Saints...nobody ever answered.[/p][/quote]I know what you mean. I once asked for the time, but all I was given was a latest score update. It was either Jeff Sterling moonlighting or his biggest fan. redandy10
  • Score: 1

1:15pm Thu 24 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

redandy10 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
george chivers wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.
George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?
Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.
It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.
I don't mind questions per se, only when somebody continually asks them to try and undermine other poster's views. In short you are part of a little group whose posts are mainly attacks on other posters for being too negative. This seems to be collectively your main reason for posting on this thread, instead of actually coming on here and voicing an actual opinion. The truth is when you ask these questions you don't really care about the person's reply, you just want to undermine their post in a passive aggressive fashion.

The topper is that in this way you lot are actually the most negative posters on this thread. Others agree to disagree, but it's always you lot who are the first to start getting snide.
I once asked if Paul Jones and Anti Nemi once played on opposing sides in an international match,while both signed with Saints...nobody ever answered.
I know what you mean. I once asked for the time, but all I was given was a latest score update. It was either Jeff Sterling moonlighting or his biggest fan.
No good asking the time on here as by the time you get a reply, it will be way past the time that you asked for, if you look in the top right hand corner there will be a time when the reply is sent but it won't be the actual time that you required. I was a Scottish game at Forfar once, a guy asked me what's the team? I said sorry haven't got a programme yet, he said no. what's the team, tapping his wrist.....
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.[/p][/quote]George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?[/p][/quote]Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.[/p][/quote]It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.[/p][/quote]I don't mind questions per se, only when somebody continually asks them to try and undermine other poster's views. In short you are part of a little group whose posts are mainly attacks on other posters for being too negative. This seems to be collectively your main reason for posting on this thread, instead of actually coming on here and voicing an actual opinion. The truth is when you ask these questions you don't really care about the person's reply, you just want to undermine their post in a passive aggressive fashion. The topper is that in this way you lot are actually the most negative posters on this thread. Others agree to disagree, but it's always you lot who are the first to start getting snide.[/p][/quote]I once asked if Paul Jones and Anti Nemi once played on opposing sides in an international match,while both signed with Saints...nobody ever answered.[/p][/quote]I know what you mean. I once asked for the time, but all I was given was a latest score update. It was either Jeff Sterling moonlighting or his biggest fan.[/p][/quote]No good asking the time on here as by the time you get a reply, it will be way past the time that you asked for, if you look in the top right hand corner there will be a time when the reply is sent but it won't be the actual time that you required. I was a Scottish game at Forfar once, a guy asked me what's the team? I said sorry haven't got a programme yet, he said no. what's the team, tapping his wrist..... OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

1:21pm Thu 24 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Velleity wrote:
slugger wrote:
This site has got well boring ......... It needs spicing up !
I'm typing naked. Is that exciting enough?
Anyone can type 'naked', I just did it with my clothes on.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: This site has got well boring ......... It needs spicing up ![/p][/quote]I'm typing naked. Is that exciting enough?[/p][/quote]Anyone can type 'naked', I just did it with my clothes on. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

2:26pm Thu 24 Apr 14

lowe esteem says...

13/- (bob) buys you a paper with odds on various Managers for Spuds and Manure, and MoPo is way down the odds list with two satchel swingers.

More speculation on who Saints are going to sign please>
13/- (bob) buys you a paper with odds on various Managers for Spuds and Manure, and MoPo is way down the odds list with two satchel swingers. More speculation on who Saints are going to sign please> lowe esteem
  • Score: 1

11:57am Fri 25 Apr 14

Beer Monster says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
george chivers wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.
Don't get me wrong I think MP has the potential to be great and I want him to stay here, but he wouldn't last a season at a top 5 club right now.
I think it's Saints that are looking to see who else is around, after all MP says he is ready to talk about his contract now but that it is up to the board when that will happen.
I think he will stay, and that he will be offered a new contract.
What makes you think we can get someone better than MoPo at this stage of our development? Why would you 'look around' and risk alienating him and he leaves of his own accord?

From what they are saying one of the reasons Moyes got the elbow was because he lost the dressing room. Well we know - because they keep telling us - that our players love MoPo and want to stay if he does. That in itself is enough for me to support him.

Personally, given the rumours about massive bids coming in for our prized youngsters, I wouldn't even consider replacing MoPo as he is the bigger part of keeping them and if they go it's effectively all over for the vision.

I really don't think many fans realise what a crossroads we are at. We have an opportunity to build a team that you have to go back 30 years to match. We had a bit of a chance in the early 90's too and fluffed that one as well. If we don't take this chance then I don't think we ever will.
A top post in a thread full of willy waving. If I could give two thumbs up, then I would.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.[/p][/quote]Don't get me wrong I think MP has the potential to be great and I want him to stay here, but he wouldn't last a season at a top 5 club right now. I think it's Saints that are looking to see who else is around, after all MP says he is ready to talk about his contract now but that it is up to the board when that will happen. I think he will stay, and that he will be offered a new contract.[/p][/quote]What makes you think we can get someone better than MoPo at this stage of our development? Why would you 'look around' and risk alienating him and he leaves of his own accord? From what they are saying one of the reasons Moyes got the elbow was because he lost the dressing room. Well we know - because they keep telling us - that our players love MoPo and want to stay if he does. That in itself is enough for me to support him. Personally, given the rumours about massive bids coming in for our prized youngsters, I wouldn't even consider replacing MoPo as he is the bigger part of keeping them and if they go it's effectively all over for the vision. I really don't think many fans realise what a crossroads we are at. We have an opportunity to build a team that you have to go back 30 years to match. We had a bit of a chance in the early 90's too and fluffed that one as well. If we don't take this chance then I don't think we ever will.[/p][/quote]A top post in a thread full of willy waving. If I could give two thumbs up, then I would. Beer Monster
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2:22pm Fri 25 Apr 14

lowe esteem says...

apm1954 wrote:
yawn same old echo
A startlingly refreshing and innovative contribution.
Our humble thanks for making us all think, you are a shining example of how to influence the news you read, thus elevating chatty conversation to new intellectual highs and opening up whole new avenues of thought and learning in an otherwise unenlightened conversation.
Can't thank you enough, we are indebted, please continue to nod off under your '54 issue paper duvet that keeps your particular park bench warm.
[quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: yawn same old echo[/p][/quote]A startlingly refreshing and innovative contribution. Our humble thanks for making us all think, you are a shining example of how to influence the news you read, thus elevating chatty conversation to new intellectual highs and opening up whole new avenues of thought and learning in an otherwise unenlightened conversation. Can't thank you enough, we are indebted, please continue to nod off under your '54 issue paper duvet that keeps your particular park bench warm. lowe esteem
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9:00am Wed 30 Apr 14

redandy10 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
george chivers wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team.
At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it.
Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.
Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.
Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it.
And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front.
The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.
The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.
"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season
Liverpool away and .............?
You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.
George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?
Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.
It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.
I don't mind questions per se, only when somebody continually asks them to try and undermine other poster's views. In short you are part of a little group whose posts are mainly attacks on other posters for being too negative. This seems to be collectively your main reason for posting on this thread, instead of actually coming on here and voicing an actual opinion. The truth is when you ask these questions you don't really care about the person's reply, you just want to undermine their post in a passive aggressive fashion.

The topper is that in this way you lot are actually the most negative posters on this thread. Others agree to disagree, but it's always you lot who are the first to start getting snide.
I once asked if Paul Jones and Anti Nemi once played on opposing sides in an international match,while both signed with Saints...nobody ever answered.
I know what you mean. I once asked for the time, but all i got was a latest score update. I thought it was Jeff Sterling doing a bit of moonlighting.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: I don't think MoPo is a top manager yet and I don't think he is ready for a top 5 team. At the moment when we play we have a "plan A" which everyone now knows, but that's it, we havent go anythig else in the locker and when "plan A" doesn't work well we just keep on doing it. Morinho has many different ways to play, and a dozen different ways to beat you, we don't.[/p][/quote]Dominating games with 60-70% possession doesn't really need a 'plan B' what it needs is a striker who can take the bloody chances! Despite that we are the eighth highest scoring team which is in keeping with being eighth in the league I suppose.[/p][/quote]Last weekend we had all the possesion and only two shots on target both in the first half. It's not about how much you have the ball it's about how you make use of it. And saying that you don't need a "plan B" is very old school in this day and age epecially when you can't find your way to goal with an England international up front. The top half of the table know how to win against us because they adapt their game to expose our weak points, plus you don't become a master tactician wih only one tactic.[/p][/quote]The England International is hobbling around on crutches. The other one, Rickie, doesn't have the pace to make the runs our possession requires, hence trying to pass it in to the net without Jay Rod. Funnily enough it's against the top half that we do well, the 'park the bus teams' are the ones we struggle to break down.[/p][/quote]"Against the top half we do well," what teams above us in the league have we won against this season Liverpool away and .............?[/p][/quote]You won't get any support on here for your accurate views you are arguing against a God with tunnel vision supporters who can't think for themselves.[/p][/quote]George, are you saying that your sometimes daft opinions (e.g. computer credit problems, etc.) are a result of you thinking for yourself?[/p][/quote]Yet another question from you!!!!! And he's talking about posters like you who are incapable of posting any BALANCED, HONEST, OBJECTIVE or INTERESTING comments. Why don't you give the Magnus Magnusson questioning guff a rest. You've scared off poor old George Chivers, who, whether I agree with them or not, actually posts some interesting views on here.[/p][/quote]It is of course your right to think what I post on here is uninteresting. But I have to wonder what you mean by unbalanced, dishonest, unobjective questions.[/p][/quote]I don't mind questions per se, only when somebody continually asks them to try and undermine other poster's views. In short you are part of a little group whose posts are mainly attacks on other posters for being too negative. This seems to be collectively your main reason for posting on this thread, instead of actually coming on here and voicing an actual opinion. The truth is when you ask these questions you don't really care about the person's reply, you just want to undermine their post in a passive aggressive fashion. The topper is that in this way you lot are actually the most negative posters on this thread. Others agree to disagree, but it's always you lot who are the first to start getting snide.[/p][/quote]I once asked if Paul Jones and Anti Nemi once played on opposing sides in an international match,while both signed with Saints...nobody ever answered.[/p][/quote]I know what you mean. I once asked for the time, but all i got was a latest score update. I thought it was Jeff Sterling doing a bit of moonlighting. redandy10
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