Poch tells fans: don't fear future

Mauricio Pochettino

Mauricio Pochettino

First published in Sport Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Chief Sports Writer

Mauricio Pochettino has encouraged Saints fans not to “live in fear of the future” – and says talks over a new five year plan for the club should start soon.

The Saints boss found his contract situation under sharp scrutiny at his final pre-match press conference of the season yesterday.

Pochettino has just a year remaining on his present deal with Tottenham said to be interested in recruiting him to replace Tim Sherwood this summer and players keen for him to commit himself to an extended stay at St Mary’s.

Pochettino has put off talk of any new deal or his future until the end of the campaign, which is now just a day away with the finale against Manchester United at St Mary’s tomorrow afternoon.

It seems clear the Saints manager wants to hear what the board has to say before decisions are made.

“I think I have already explained that in other press conferences,” said Pochettino.

“This Sunday when the game finishes with Manchester United a project of five years that has been happening will come to an end.

“It’s up the board to discuss with me the new project that will be in place starting next season.

“It’s not really up to me to decide when those talks happen but the club overall has to explain to me what this new project consists of and how it’s going to start next season.”

He added: “I don’t think you can live in the fear of the future.

“What’s important right now is to enjoy this moment, the present, to relish this magnificent season that we’ve had.

“Sunday is a very good chance to create an amazing atmosphere, to enjoy the game and the end of this amazing season.

“In the future, things will be spoken about.”

When asked what he would like to hear, he replied: “I don’t know. “I cannot answer that question until I speak to them.”

The futures of various players are also uncertain.

Captain and creative talisman Adam Lallana has been heavily linked with a move to Liverpool, but Pochettino admitted: “I pretty much have the same information as you have, the same as you received through the media.

“The club has not spoken to me officially about anything so I have the same information as you have.”

Saints have no fresh injury worries ahead of the game against United and the manager wants his team to finish with a flourish.

They need just a draw to record the club’s highest top flight points total for 29 years.

“Our focus is that we always want to win and get the three points and we want to have a very good performance on Sunday. There is no exception on Sunday,” insisted Pochettino.

“There is also the chance to see the supporters, to thank them for their amazing support throughout the season and for the supporters to thank and congratulate the players. “They have been the main actors in making this amazing season possible.”

When asked if it was going to be a goodbye, he added: “We always said goodbye because we finish a chapter and we start a new chapter.”

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6:20am Sat 10 May 14

nervousbumskin420 says...

he will stay! they will tell him what he wants to hear, give him a nice wad of cash to spend, and a brand new 5 year deal to sign!
he will stay! they will tell him what he wants to hear, give him a nice wad of cash to spend, and a brand new 5 year deal to sign! nervousbumskin420
  • Score: 44

6:26am Sat 10 May 14

richard903 says...

Sorry if we seem stressed Mr Potty Chino, its just that you have our team playing the most beautiful football we have ever seen, there is not another team in the uk playing such wonderful football. You are a prized jewel and we want to protect you and keep you all to our selfs. In the words of Golom you are our precious, needs you we dose. Gracias for your work
Sorry if we seem stressed Mr Potty Chino, its just that you have our team playing the most beautiful football we have ever seen, there is not another team in the uk playing such wonderful football. You are a prized jewel and we want to protect you and keep you all to our selfs. In the words of Golom you are our precious, needs you we dose. Gracias for your work richard903
  • Score: 73

7:00am Sat 10 May 14

circa 66 saint says...

My own personal opinion not substantiated by any facts, if you think the last few years have been a terrific ride then enjoy the new improved 5year plan to be announced soon.
COYR
My own personal opinion not substantiated by any facts, if you think the last few years have been a terrific ride then enjoy the new improved 5year plan to be announced soon. COYR circa 66 saint
  • Score: 39

7:20am Sat 10 May 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

Its now up to Kat and the board !! Continue the excellent progress in the top league , playing great football , Secure M.P. s contract for another couple of seasons and KEEP OUR BOYS at St Mary s . . Or is it Cash & Dash on the asset s ??? Continue Marcus vision and keep the GOOD TIMES coming . The future looks great , just keep the faith in M.P. / LUKE / ADAM & RICKIE C O Y R
Its now up to Kat and the board !! Continue the excellent progress in the top league , playing great football , Secure M.P. s contract for another couple of seasons and KEEP OUR BOYS at St Mary s . . Or is it Cash & Dash on the asset s ??? Continue Marcus vision and keep the GOOD TIMES coming . The future looks great , just keep the faith in M.P. / LUKE / ADAM & RICKIE C O Y R SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: 30

8:45am Sat 10 May 14

Norwegian Saint says...

I wouldn't like to see any current Saints players (or our manager) on the opposite team, I wouldn't feel right.
I wouldn't like to see any current Saints players (or our manager) on the opposite team, I wouldn't feel right. Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 29

9:00am Sat 10 May 14

Santa Retfordia says...

He's right. We should be mindful of the future but not at the expense of the present (that's in Star Wars, that is) which means our one overriding concern should be getting the beers in and stuffing the Mancs. Let's do this.
He's right. We should be mindful of the future but not at the expense of the present (that's in Star Wars, that is) which means our one overriding concern should be getting the beers in and stuffing the Mancs. Let's do this. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 22

9:17am Sat 10 May 14

DisplacedFan says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
He's right. We should be mindful of the future but not at the expense of the present (that's in Star Wars, that is) which means our one overriding concern should be getting the beers in and stuffing the Mancs. Let's do this.
Cheers!
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: He's right. We should be mindful of the future but not at the expense of the present (that's in Star Wars, that is) which means our one overriding concern should be getting the beers in and stuffing the Mancs. Let's do this.[/p][/quote]Cheers! DisplacedFan
  • Score: 5

9:29am Sat 10 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

In business you have five year plans but you don't actually let one finish and then decide randomly on the next five years, they tend to be rolling. Otherwise you can't make any meaningful long term decisions in years 4 and 5. Bizarre.
In business you have five year plans but you don't actually let one finish and then decide randomly on the next five years, they tend to be rolling. Otherwise you can't make any meaningful long term decisions in years 4 and 5. Bizarre. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 8

9:35am Sat 10 May 14

Clever Dick says...

Year one. Just scrape into fourh place by nudging past Liverpool on the last day of the season with a wonder goal from the new England captain Adam Lallana.
Year two. Only just get through the qualifying stages with a last gasp goal from new French international Morgan Schneiderlin. Finish third behind Chelski and ManC
Year three. 2nd in the league and reach the semis of the Champions League losing to Barcelona by a disputed goal which was later proven to be offside by five yards. We were denied five clear cut penalties.
Year four. MoPo turns down the fourth offer of the Barcelona managers job whilst guiding Saints to the Pem title. Real offer £145 million for Luke Shaw and the board tell them not to waste their time with unrealistic offers. Our Academy side wins the FA cup. We win the Champions League at a canter.
Year five. Champions league, Prem without dropping a point, FA cup. MoPo issues another statement telling the fans not to fear for the future as discussions were already under way for the next five year plan. After a large number of suicides on Portsea island following the collapse and liquidation of Poopey FC the mega rich Southampton FC, in a humanitarian gesture, purchase some extra ground as cemetery space is running out. Every headstone, which we also provide to read. "Here lies the bestest bestest fan ever"
Year one. Just scrape into fourh place by nudging past Liverpool on the last day of the season with a wonder goal from the new England captain Adam Lallana. Year two. Only just get through the qualifying stages with a last gasp goal from new French international Morgan Schneiderlin. Finish third behind Chelski and ManC Year three. 2nd in the league and reach the semis of the Champions League losing to Barcelona by a disputed goal which was later proven to be offside by five yards. We were denied five clear cut penalties. Year four. MoPo turns down the fourth offer of the Barcelona managers job whilst guiding Saints to the Pem title. Real offer £145 million for Luke Shaw and the board tell them not to waste their time with unrealistic offers. Our Academy side wins the FA cup. We win the Champions League at a canter. Year five. Champions league, Prem without dropping a point, FA cup. MoPo issues another statement telling the fans not to fear for the future as discussions were already under way for the next five year plan. After a large number of suicides on Portsea island following the collapse and liquidation of Poopey FC the mega rich Southampton FC, in a humanitarian gesture, purchase some extra ground as cemetery space is running out. Every headstone, which we also provide to read. "Here lies the bestest bestest fan ever" Clever Dick
  • Score: 65

10:01am Sat 10 May 14

Malcombe says...

Thanks for all the wonderful comments on here today they are facts with humour. Hopefully these words from Mauricio have made millions very happy today, for me I'm a happy chappy but surprised that a 5 year plan wasn't started with Nicola when Mauricio came to the Club in January 2013 rather than continue the Nicola/ Nigel 5 year plan, perhaps from Monday it will be the start of the next 5 year plan.

I believe after listening to everyone who have complimented Southampton FC about the world class facilities that will soon be complete and the fantastic conveyor belt of young Players coming along that Mauricio knows at the moment cannot be matched he is excited for the future so I'm going down in my burrow until tomorrow to watch the last game of the wonderful Football we have endured from the best Team on the planet The Saints since January 2013, sod the sleep Sunday night I want to read and hear Monday all that we've all be waiting for and put the bed the Rumour Agitators who hopefully will not only be choking over there Cornflakes but also big Humble Pie. COYR
Thanks for all the wonderful comments on here today they are facts with humour. Hopefully these words from Mauricio have made millions very happy today, for me I'm a happy chappy but surprised that a 5 year plan wasn't started with Nicola when Mauricio came to the Club in January 2013 rather than continue the Nicola/ Nigel 5 year plan, perhaps from Monday it will be the start of the next 5 year plan. I believe after listening to everyone who have complimented Southampton FC about the world class facilities that will soon be complete and the fantastic conveyor belt of young Players coming along that Mauricio knows at the moment cannot be matched he is excited for the future so I'm going down in my burrow until tomorrow to watch the last game of the wonderful Football we have endured from the best Team on the planet The Saints since January 2013, sod the sleep Sunday night I want to read and hear Monday all that we've all be waiting for and put the bed the Rumour Agitators who hopefully will not only be choking over there Cornflakes but also big Humble Pie. COYR Malcombe
  • Score: 12

10:33am Sat 10 May 14

StElsass says...

Malcombe wrote:
Thanks for all the wonderful comments on here today they are facts with humour. Hopefully these words from Mauricio have made millions very happy today, for me I'm a happy chappy but surprised that a 5 year plan wasn't started with Nicola when Mauricio came to the Club in January 2013 rather than continue the Nicola/ Nigel 5 year plan, perhaps from Monday it will be the start of the next 5 year plan.

I believe after listening to everyone who have complimented Southampton FC about the world class facilities that will soon be complete and the fantastic conveyor belt of young Players coming along that Mauricio knows at the moment cannot be matched he is excited for the future so I'm going down in my burrow until tomorrow to watch the last game of the wonderful Football we have endured from the best Team on the planet The Saints since January 2013, sod the sleep Sunday night I want to read and hear Monday all that we've all be waiting for and put the bed the Rumour Agitators who hopefully will not only be choking over there Cornflakes but also big Humble Pie. COYR
I doubt very much we'll be told anything on Monday and even if we are it will not stop the rumours; so if I were you, I'd go to bed and have a good night sleep.
Get used to it, it will last the summer and beyond; and if I'm being honest the cryptic answers MP is giving to the media don't help either, as they leave everything open to interpretation either way and the papers are lapping it up.
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: Thanks for all the wonderful comments on here today they are facts with humour. Hopefully these words from Mauricio have made millions very happy today, for me I'm a happy chappy but surprised that a 5 year plan wasn't started with Nicola when Mauricio came to the Club in January 2013 rather than continue the Nicola/ Nigel 5 year plan, perhaps from Monday it will be the start of the next 5 year plan. I believe after listening to everyone who have complimented Southampton FC about the world class facilities that will soon be complete and the fantastic conveyor belt of young Players coming along that Mauricio knows at the moment cannot be matched he is excited for the future so I'm going down in my burrow until tomorrow to watch the last game of the wonderful Football we have endured from the best Team on the planet The Saints since January 2013, sod the sleep Sunday night I want to read and hear Monday all that we've all be waiting for and put the bed the Rumour Agitators who hopefully will not only be choking over there Cornflakes but also big Humble Pie. COYR[/p][/quote]I doubt very much we'll be told anything on Monday and even if we are it will not stop the rumours; so if I were you, I'd go to bed and have a good night sleep. Get used to it, it will last the summer and beyond; and if I'm being honest the cryptic answers MP is giving to the media don't help either, as they leave everything open to interpretation either way and the papers are lapping it up. StElsass
  • Score: 1

10:37am Sat 10 May 14

Costa Baz says...

Personally, I feel MP is being economical with the truth, and must have been given some information/assuranc
es by Reed, about the aims of the club.
If he hasn't, received this information, why has he already organised the pre-season training and given Reed a list of players he wants?
Reed told people at the awards evening, that he'd had talks with MP, and that they were progressing positively.
I think all fans want to see the progress maintained, but we also have to be realistic enough to realise that the authorities brought in FFP to stop "upstarts" like us from gate crashing the top 4. Funds for new players may not reach our and MP's expectations/hopes, unless balanced by a key player being sold to raise funds to the required level, and stay within the rules.
That would not be the fault of the board, who have to observe the rules or risk getting fined by the authorities, thus reducing the transfer pot for future years.

Everyone is talking about pushing for Europe, and I would love to see that happen, yet if Wanyama is to be believed (in an interview I read yesterday) the plan for this season was to "finish higher than last season".
Not that adventurous, for Cortese.
Personally, I feel MP is being economical with the truth, and must have been given some information/assuranc es by Reed, about the aims of the club. If he hasn't, received this information, why has he already organised the pre-season training and given Reed a list of players he wants? Reed told people at the awards evening, that he'd had talks with MP, and that they were progressing positively. I think all fans want to see the progress maintained, but we also have to be realistic enough to realise that the authorities brought in FFP to stop "upstarts" like us from gate crashing the top 4. Funds for new players may not reach our and MP's expectations/hopes, unless balanced by a key player being sold to raise funds to the required level, and stay within the rules. That would not be the fault of the board, who have to observe the rules or risk getting fined by the authorities, thus reducing the transfer pot for future years. Everyone is talking about pushing for Europe, and I would love to see that happen, yet if Wanyama is to be believed (in an interview I read yesterday) the plan for this season was to "finish higher than last season". Not that adventurous, for Cortese. Costa Baz
  • Score: 2

10:42am Sat 10 May 14

costa gaz says...

Until I hear the words "" I am staying"" I will remain very worried.

Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man U and Spurs are all sniffing round our team, I am afraid these are big cheeses and therefore will always be above the likes of us in the football food chain.

I am sure there are not many people who would turn down a chance to play CL football whilst trebling your salary.

It would be great to think we could keep this team/management together, recruit a couple of decent signings and press on, but football rarely works like that.
Until I hear the words "" I am staying"" I will remain very worried. Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man U and Spurs are all sniffing round our team, I am afraid these are big cheeses and therefore will always be above the likes of us in the football food chain. I am sure there are not many people who would turn down a chance to play CL football whilst trebling your salary. It would be great to think we could keep this team/management together, recruit a couple of decent signings and press on, but football rarely works like that. costa gaz
  • Score: 5

10:45am Sat 10 May 14

Confucious says...

Of course there's sense in enjoying the day tomorrow and "not fearing for the future" as MoPo tells us. But I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling the final day and post match parade will be a little tinged by the uncertainty surrounding the manager and key players. As we applaud the management team and the squad around the pitch after a fantastic season, there's bound to be plenty of fans wondering if we are really saying goodbye to an unknown number of them - and what will greet us when the first match in August arrives.

The only certainty about Saints future is that the fans will still be there in their thousands. Owners come and go; directors come and go; managers come and go and players come and go. Only the fans live with with long memories of the club and know they'll be around in the future at St Marys - not dependent upon owners' investments, five year plans or competing offers for personnel from other clubs - but come thick or thin, they'll be there.

It would be nice to forget the taste of disasters in the not too distant past and put on hold any hopes or fears for the future and just enjoy the moment tomorrow. But I'd have to be more like Robert Burns' famous mouse to be able to do so and rather less like Robert Burns. As he said to the mouse...

Still thou art blest compar'd wi' me!
The present only toucheth thee:
But och! I backward cast my eye
on prospects drear!
An' forward, tho' I canna see,
I guess an' fear!

Oh well, bvgger it....COME ON YOU SAINTS!
Of course there's sense in enjoying the day tomorrow and "not fearing for the future" as MoPo tells us. But I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling the final day and post match parade will be a little tinged by the uncertainty surrounding the manager and key players. As we applaud the management team and the squad around the pitch after a fantastic season, there's bound to be plenty of fans wondering if we are really saying goodbye to an unknown number of them - and what will greet us when the first match in August arrives. The only certainty about Saints future is that the fans will still be there in their thousands. Owners come and go; directors come and go; managers come and go and players come and go. Only the fans live with with long memories of the club and know they'll be around in the future at St Marys - not dependent upon owners' investments, five year plans or competing offers for personnel from other clubs - but come thick or thin, they'll be there. It would be nice to forget the taste of disasters in the not too distant past and put on hold any hopes or fears for the future and just enjoy the moment tomorrow. But I'd have to be more like Robert Burns' famous mouse to be able to do so and rather less like Robert Burns. As he said to the mouse... Still thou art blest compar'd wi' me! The present only toucheth thee: But och! I backward cast my eye on prospects drear! An' forward, tho' I canna see, I guess an' fear! Oh well, bvgger it....COME ON YOU SAINTS! Confucious
  • Score: 23

10:53am Sat 10 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Big Sam G has signed a long term Contract until Summer 2018, obviously the Club rates him as a prospect, more than some of the posters on here! Instant Rickie replacement he is not, but I am sure he will prove to be another Player that will be worth every penny we paid for him.
Big Sam G has signed a long term Contract until Summer 2018, obviously the Club rates him as a prospect, more than some of the posters on here! Instant Rickie replacement he is not, but I am sure he will prove to be another Player that will be worth every penny we paid for him. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 9

10:55am Sat 10 May 14

zurichboy says...

Don't fear the future....one thing I fear is that Manu will try and smuggle Luke Shaw onto the plane tomorrow evening and back to Manchester...:)
Don't fear the future....one thing I fear is that Manu will try and smuggle Luke Shaw onto the plane tomorrow evening and back to Manchester...:) zurichboy
  • Score: 2

11:19am Sat 10 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

What we must remember is that we are Southampton Football Club, nothing is ever straightforward, the miracle has taken five years, the impossible may take a little longer.It could be that nothing is impossible?
What we must remember is that we are Southampton Football Club, nothing is ever straightforward, the miracle has taken five years, the impossible may take a little longer.It could be that nothing is impossible? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 13

11:23am Sat 10 May 14

Clever Dick says...

Confucious wrote:
Of course there's sense in enjoying the day tomorrow and "not fearing for the future" as MoPo tells us. But I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling the final day and post match parade will be a little tinged by the uncertainty surrounding the manager and key players. As we applaud the management team and the squad around the pitch after a fantastic season, there's bound to be plenty of fans wondering if we are really saying goodbye to an unknown number of them - and what will greet us when the first match in August arrives.

The only certainty about Saints future is that the fans will still be there in their thousands. Owners come and go; directors come and go; managers come and go and players come and go. Only the fans live with with long memories of the club and know they'll be around in the future at St Marys - not dependent upon owners' investments, five year plans or competing offers for personnel from other clubs - but come thick or thin, they'll be there.

It would be nice to forget the taste of disasters in the not too distant past and put on hold any hopes or fears for the future and just enjoy the moment tomorrow. But I'd have to be more like Robert Burns' famous mouse to be able to do so and rather less like Robert Burns. As he said to the mouse...

Still thou art blest compar'd wi' me!
The present only toucheth thee:
But och! I backward cast my eye
on prospects drear!
An' forward, tho' I canna see,
I guess an' fear!

Oh well, bvgger it....COME ON YOU SAINTS!
It's going to be a great end of season celebration but it will be very interesting to see the reactions of the players. Any showing the merest sign of emotion and/or waving at every section of the crowd will leave us wondering if this is their last appearance. Anyway as you say we will all be there again next season worrying about every ludicrous rumour but still finishing above Everton and the Spuds.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Of course there's sense in enjoying the day tomorrow and "not fearing for the future" as MoPo tells us. But I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling the final day and post match parade will be a little tinged by the uncertainty surrounding the manager and key players. As we applaud the management team and the squad around the pitch after a fantastic season, there's bound to be plenty of fans wondering if we are really saying goodbye to an unknown number of them - and what will greet us when the first match in August arrives. The only certainty about Saints future is that the fans will still be there in their thousands. Owners come and go; directors come and go; managers come and go and players come and go. Only the fans live with with long memories of the club and know they'll be around in the future at St Marys - not dependent upon owners' investments, five year plans or competing offers for personnel from other clubs - but come thick or thin, they'll be there. It would be nice to forget the taste of disasters in the not too distant past and put on hold any hopes or fears for the future and just enjoy the moment tomorrow. But I'd have to be more like Robert Burns' famous mouse to be able to do so and rather less like Robert Burns. As he said to the mouse... Still thou art blest compar'd wi' me! The present only toucheth thee: But och! I backward cast my eye on prospects drear! An' forward, tho' I canna see, I guess an' fear! Oh well, bvgger it....COME ON YOU SAINTS![/p][/quote]It's going to be a great end of season celebration but it will be very interesting to see the reactions of the players. Any showing the merest sign of emotion and/or waving at every section of the crowd will leave us wondering if this is their last appearance. Anyway as you say we will all be there again next season worrying about every ludicrous rumour but still finishing above Everton and the Spuds. Clever Dick
  • Score: 5

11:31am Sat 10 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Personally, I feel MP is being economical with the truth, and must have been given some information/assuranc

es by Reed, about the aims of the club.
If he hasn't, received this information, why has he already organised the pre-season training and given Reed a list of players he wants?
Reed told people at the awards evening, that he'd had talks with MP, and that they were progressing positively.
I think all fans want to see the progress maintained, but we also have to be realistic enough to realise that the authorities brought in FFP to stop "upstarts" like us from gate crashing the top 4. Funds for new players may not reach our and MP's expectations/hopes, unless balanced by a key player being sold to raise funds to the required level, and stay within the rules.
That would not be the fault of the board, who have to observe the rules or risk getting fined by the authorities, thus reducing the transfer pot for future years.

Everyone is talking about pushing for Europe, and I would love to see that happen, yet if Wanyama is to be believed (in an interview I read yesterday) the plan for this season was to "finish higher than last season".
Not that adventurous, for Cortese.
Baz the prems FFP are not going to bother us at all. inc. last year we are allowed to have £105mill debt over 3 years. the club had £7mill debt last year, so we can go to almost £50mill this and next year, not that we want to though. a lot of people have got confused with the prems FFP and uefas FFP. eufa FFP allowed debt is £45mill over 3 years so theres a huge difference between the 2.
I don't want the club to run up huge debts and like the way we have been run recently, however there is a bit of leeway if we need it.
I doubt MP would want to spend too much anyway and just wants a decent budget and to keep the players we already have. the club might not be able to give a final budget until they know dani`s future.
I am getting more and more optimistic about the future.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: Personally, I feel MP is being economical with the truth, and must have been given some information/assuranc es by Reed, about the aims of the club. If he hasn't, received this information, why has he already organised the pre-season training and given Reed a list of players he wants? Reed told people at the awards evening, that he'd had talks with MP, and that they were progressing positively. I think all fans want to see the progress maintained, but we also have to be realistic enough to realise that the authorities brought in FFP to stop "upstarts" like us from gate crashing the top 4. Funds for new players may not reach our and MP's expectations/hopes, unless balanced by a key player being sold to raise funds to the required level, and stay within the rules. That would not be the fault of the board, who have to observe the rules or risk getting fined by the authorities, thus reducing the transfer pot for future years. Everyone is talking about pushing for Europe, and I would love to see that happen, yet if Wanyama is to be believed (in an interview I read yesterday) the plan for this season was to "finish higher than last season". Not that adventurous, for Cortese.[/p][/quote]Baz the prems FFP are not going to bother us at all. inc. last year we are allowed to have £105mill debt over 3 years. the club had £7mill debt last year, so we can go to almost £50mill this and next year, not that we want to though. a lot of people have got confused with the prems FFP and uefas FFP. eufa FFP allowed debt is £45mill over 3 years so theres a huge difference between the 2. I don't want the club to run up huge debts and like the way we have been run recently, however there is a bit of leeway if we need it. I doubt MP would want to spend too much anyway and just wants a decent budget and to keep the players we already have. the club might not be able to give a final budget until they know dani`s future. I am getting more and more optimistic about the future. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 6

11:55am Sat 10 May 14

NC Fan4Life says...

I agree we don't need to fear the future, thanks to Marcus & Nicola that is secured. However the next five year plan must already be in place following Katharina's commitment and new Board Appointments which must be to take us forward not just to settle for mid-table.
We are at a cross roads with a great unity between a young playing squad and management, it would be foolish to break this up when for the sake of about four top players we could be a top four team next season. There is enough money coming in to do this so we will see over the next 2 or 3 weeks, but the Board need to act quickly otherwise there will be unrest between players and manager.
I agree we don't need to fear the future, thanks to Marcus & Nicola that is secured. However the next five year plan must already be in place following Katharina's commitment and new Board Appointments which must be to take us forward not just to settle for mid-table. We are at a cross roads with a great unity between a young playing squad and management, it would be foolish to break this up when for the sake of about four top players we could be a top four team next season. There is enough money coming in to do this so we will see over the next 2 or 3 weeks, but the Board need to act quickly otherwise there will be unrest between players and manager. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 2

11:58am Sat 10 May 14

Costa Baz says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Costa Baz wrote: Personally, I feel MP is being economical with the truth, and must have been given some information/assuranc es by Reed, about the aims of the club. If he hasn't, received this information, why has he already organised the pre-season training and given Reed a list of players he wants? Reed told people at the awards evening, that he'd had talks with MP, and that they were progressing positively. I think all fans want to see the progress maintained, but we also have to be realistic enough to realise that the authorities brought in FFP to stop "upstarts" like us from gate crashing the top 4. Funds for new players may not reach our and MP's expectations/hopes, unless balanced by a key player being sold to raise funds to the required level, and stay within the rules. That would not be the fault of the board, who have to observe the rules or risk getting fined by the authorities, thus reducing the transfer pot for future years. Everyone is talking about pushing for Europe, and I would love to see that happen, yet if Wanyama is to be believed (in an interview I read yesterday) the plan for this season was to "finish higher than last season". Not that adventurous, for Cortese.
Baz the prems FFP are not going to bother us at all. inc. last year we are allowed to have £105mill debt over 3 years. the club had £7mill debt last year, so we can go to almost £50mill this and next year, not that we want to though. a lot of people have got confused with the prems FFP and uefas FFP. eufa FFP allowed debt is £45mill over 3 years so theres a huge difference between the 2. I don't want the club to run up huge debts and like the way we have been run recently, however there is a bit of leeway if we need it. I doubt MP would want to spend too much anyway and just wants a decent budget and to keep the players we already have. the club might not be able to give a final budget until they know dani`s future. I am getting more and more optimistic about the future.
Thanks for that.
I agree that he probably just wants a big enough budget to compete for the players he wants.
I just hope he is targeting players like Lovren, that are not attracting the attention of the "bigger" clubs, rather than players that think they have already made it.
However, One comment from Krueger, I believe, is that the British market will be very closely looked at, before looking abroad, for players.
Whether or not that means we are trying to corner the market in English players, or only bring in foreign players with Premier League experience, is still to be seen.
If it means gambling on players, like Ings or Rhodes, I hope the current players trust MP's judgement and don't throw a strop because we weren't linked with higher profile players.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: Personally, I feel MP is being economical with the truth, and must have been given some information/assuranc es by Reed, about the aims of the club. If he hasn't, received this information, why has he already organised the pre-season training and given Reed a list of players he wants? Reed told people at the awards evening, that he'd had talks with MP, and that they were progressing positively. I think all fans want to see the progress maintained, but we also have to be realistic enough to realise that the authorities brought in FFP to stop "upstarts" like us from gate crashing the top 4. Funds for new players may not reach our and MP's expectations/hopes, unless balanced by a key player being sold to raise funds to the required level, and stay within the rules. That would not be the fault of the board, who have to observe the rules or risk getting fined by the authorities, thus reducing the transfer pot for future years. Everyone is talking about pushing for Europe, and I would love to see that happen, yet if Wanyama is to be believed (in an interview I read yesterday) the plan for this season was to "finish higher than last season". Not that adventurous, for Cortese.[/p][/quote]Baz the prems FFP are not going to bother us at all. inc. last year we are allowed to have £105mill debt over 3 years. the club had £7mill debt last year, so we can go to almost £50mill this and next year, not that we want to though. a lot of people have got confused with the prems FFP and uefas FFP. eufa FFP allowed debt is £45mill over 3 years so theres a huge difference between the 2. I don't want the club to run up huge debts and like the way we have been run recently, however there is a bit of leeway if we need it. I doubt MP would want to spend too much anyway and just wants a decent budget and to keep the players we already have. the club might not be able to give a final budget until they know dani`s future. I am getting more and more optimistic about the future.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. I agree that he probably just wants a big enough budget to compete for the players he wants. I just hope he is targeting players like Lovren, that are not attracting the attention of the "bigger" clubs, rather than players that think they have already made it. However, One comment from Krueger, I believe, is that the British market will be very closely looked at, before looking abroad, for players. Whether or not that means we are trying to corner the market in English players, or only bring in foreign players with Premier League experience, is still to be seen. If it means gambling on players, like Ings or Rhodes, I hope the current players trust MP's judgement and don't throw a strop because we weren't linked with higher profile players. Costa Baz
  • Score: 2

12:09pm Sat 10 May 14

Costa Baz says...

Just to get the gossip mongers chatting, Danny Ings is "back home in Southampton" according to his Twitter account. 😏😏
Just to get the gossip mongers chatting, Danny Ings is "back home in Southampton" according to his Twitter account. 😏😏 Costa Baz
  • Score: 7

12:19pm Sat 10 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Has everyone seen the back page of the sun today? apparently lalla is `pleading` to go to Anfield! the sun claimed Lallana pleaded to Les Reed to let him go to Anfield. It said he has has admitted the Saints star has had talks with him and told him he wants to go.
The chief executive said Lallana is a loyal Saints player but he wanted to become a big star and wants a dream move to a big club.
The paper said Saints board will have trouble keeping key players and MP and losing more money so they will hold meeting to decide the club's future. They said the big clubs are winning and Saints are losing.

we know the club are more `open` now and there are more interviews and information coming out of the club but does anyone think that les reed has spoken to the media about lalla pleading for a move?
is this just more media rubbish, are the sun trying to win back the hearts of diverpools supporters, is the story true? or is there something more sinister going on here? are the press being briefed by a former employee with an axe to grind?
Has everyone seen the back page of the sun today? apparently lalla is `pleading` to go to Anfield! the sun claimed Lallana pleaded to Les Reed to let him go to Anfield. It said he has has admitted the Saints star has had talks with him and told him he wants to go. The chief executive said Lallana is a loyal Saints player but he wanted to become a big star and wants a dream move to a big club. The paper said Saints board will have trouble keeping key players and MP and losing more money so they will hold meeting to decide the club's future. They said the big clubs are winning and Saints are losing. we know the club are more `open` now and there are more interviews and information coming out of the club but does anyone think that les reed has spoken to the media about lalla pleading for a move? is this just more media rubbish, are the sun trying to win back the hearts of diverpools supporters, is the story true? or is there something more sinister going on here? are the press being briefed by a former employee with an axe to grind? el caballo santos101
  • Score: 2

12:44pm Sat 10 May 14

BigBugBuzzz says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Year one. Just scrape into fourh place by nudging past Liverpool on the last day of the season with a wonder goal from the new England captain Adam Lallana.
Year two. Only just get through the qualifying stages with a last gasp goal from new French international Morgan Schneiderlin. Finish third behind Chelski and ManC
Year three. 2nd in the league and reach the semis of the Champions League losing to Barcelona by a disputed goal which was later proven to be offside by five yards. We were denied five clear cut penalties.
Year four. MoPo turns down the fourth offer of the Barcelona managers job whilst guiding Saints to the Pem title. Real offer £145 million for Luke Shaw and the board tell them not to waste their time with unrealistic offers. Our Academy side wins the FA cup. We win the Champions League at a canter.
Year five. Champions league, Prem without dropping a point, FA cup. MoPo issues another statement telling the fans not to fear for the future as discussions were already under way for the next five year plan. After a large number of suicides on Portsea island following the collapse and liquidation of Poopey FC the mega rich Southampton FC, in a humanitarian gesture, purchase some extra ground as cemetery space is running out. Every headstone, which we also provide to read. "Here lies the bestest bestest fan ever"
Haha, that made my morning!
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Year one. Just scrape into fourh place by nudging past Liverpool on the last day of the season with a wonder goal from the new England captain Adam Lallana. Year two. Only just get through the qualifying stages with a last gasp goal from new French international Morgan Schneiderlin. Finish third behind Chelski and ManC Year three. 2nd in the league and reach the semis of the Champions League losing to Barcelona by a disputed goal which was later proven to be offside by five yards. We were denied five clear cut penalties. Year four. MoPo turns down the fourth offer of the Barcelona managers job whilst guiding Saints to the Pem title. Real offer £145 million for Luke Shaw and the board tell them not to waste their time with unrealistic offers. Our Academy side wins the FA cup. We win the Champions League at a canter. Year five. Champions league, Prem without dropping a point, FA cup. MoPo issues another statement telling the fans not to fear for the future as discussions were already under way for the next five year plan. After a large number of suicides on Portsea island following the collapse and liquidation of Poopey FC the mega rich Southampton FC, in a humanitarian gesture, purchase some extra ground as cemetery space is running out. Every headstone, which we also provide to read. "Here lies the bestest bestest fan ever"[/p][/quote]Haha, that made my morning! BigBugBuzzz
  • Score: 1

1:19pm Sat 10 May 14

richard903 says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Has everyone seen the back page of the sun today? apparently lalla is `pleading` to go to Anfield! the sun claimed Lallana pleaded to Les Reed to let him go to Anfield. It said he has has admitted the Saints star has had talks with him and told him he wants to go. The chief executive said Lallana is a loyal Saints player but he wanted to become a big star and wants a dream move to a big club. The paper said Saints board will have trouble keeping key players and MP and losing more money so they will hold meeting to decide the club's future. They said the big clubs are winning and Saints are losing. we know the club are more `open` now and there are more interviews and information coming out of the club but does anyone think that les reed has spoken to the media about lalla pleading for a move? is this just more media rubbish, are the sun trying to win back the hearts of diverpools supporters, is the story true? or is there something more sinister going on here? are the press being briefed by a former employee with an axe to grind?
It sells newspapers I supose, the whole story stinks. We would need at least £40m for him ten to Bournemouth leaving £30m for a replacement. The artical also says Rodgers wants him as a long term replacement for Gerard?
I would sugest he needs to buy Morgan not Lallana. I think Potty Chino and the players have no intetion of leaving its just there way of putting presure on the board for more players and bigger wages, and they deserve it.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: Has everyone seen the back page of the sun today? apparently lalla is `pleading` to go to Anfield! the sun claimed Lallana pleaded to Les Reed to let him go to Anfield. It said he has has admitted the Saints star has had talks with him and told him he wants to go. The chief executive said Lallana is a loyal Saints player but he wanted to become a big star and wants a dream move to a big club. The paper said Saints board will have trouble keeping key players and MP and losing more money so they will hold meeting to decide the club's future. They said the big clubs are winning and Saints are losing. we know the club are more `open` now and there are more interviews and information coming out of the club but does anyone think that les reed has spoken to the media about lalla pleading for a move? is this just more media rubbish, are the sun trying to win back the hearts of diverpools supporters, is the story true? or is there something more sinister going on here? are the press being briefed by a former employee with an axe to grind?[/p][/quote]It sells newspapers I supose, the whole story stinks. We would need at least £40m for him ten to Bournemouth leaving £30m for a replacement. The artical also says Rodgers wants him as a long term replacement for Gerard? I would sugest he needs to buy Morgan not Lallana. I think Potty Chino and the players have no intetion of leaving its just there way of putting presure on the board for more players and bigger wages, and they deserve it. richard903
  • Score: 4

2:17pm Sat 10 May 14

Malcombe says...

Costa Baz Ings is from Southampton and a Saints Fan and probably has a home in the area however he has been linked since he's been scoring regularly for Burnley but now they are in the Premiership perhaps he's achieved his ambition.

Do you live on a Costa? I was in Blanca in Los Altos for 12 years until last year but never failed to follow the best Team in the world The Saints who I've seen and followed for 40 years
Costa Baz Ings is from Southampton and a Saints Fan and probably has a home in the area however he has been linked since he's been scoring regularly for Burnley but now they are in the Premiership perhaps he's achieved his ambition. Do you live on a Costa? I was in Blanca in Los Altos for 12 years until last year but never failed to follow the best Team in the world The Saints who I've seen and followed for 40 years Malcombe
  • Score: 3

2:33pm Sat 10 May 14

Stnana says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Has everyone seen the back page of the sun today? apparently lalla is `pleading` to go to Anfield! the sun claimed Lallana pleaded to Les Reed to let him go to Anfield. It said he has has admitted the Saints star has had talks with him and told him he wants to go.
The chief executive said Lallana is a loyal Saints player but he wanted to become a big star and wants a dream move to a big club.
The paper said Saints board will have trouble keeping key players and MP and losing more money so they will hold meeting to decide the club's future. They said the big clubs are winning and Saints are losing.

we know the club are more `open` now and there are more interviews and information coming out of the club but does anyone think that les reed has spoken to the media about lalla pleading for a move?
is this just more media rubbish, are the sun trying to win back the hearts of diverpools supporters, is the story true? or is there something more sinister going on here? are the press being briefed by a former employee with an axe to grind?
I don't suppose we'll ever know the truth but as you said a couple of weeks ago if the board wants to sell any players they will but if they don't they just need to remind them and their agents that they have contracts and the club means to hold them to them ! Or are these contracts not worth the paper they're written on ?
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: Has everyone seen the back page of the sun today? apparently lalla is `pleading` to go to Anfield! the sun claimed Lallana pleaded to Les Reed to let him go to Anfield. It said he has has admitted the Saints star has had talks with him and told him he wants to go. The chief executive said Lallana is a loyal Saints player but he wanted to become a big star and wants a dream move to a big club. The paper said Saints board will have trouble keeping key players and MP and losing more money so they will hold meeting to decide the club's future. They said the big clubs are winning and Saints are losing. we know the club are more `open` now and there are more interviews and information coming out of the club but does anyone think that les reed has spoken to the media about lalla pleading for a move? is this just more media rubbish, are the sun trying to win back the hearts of diverpools supporters, is the story true? or is there something more sinister going on here? are the press being briefed by a former employee with an axe to grind?[/p][/quote]I don't suppose we'll ever know the truth but as you said a couple of weeks ago if the board wants to sell any players they will but if they don't they just need to remind them and their agents that they have contracts and the club means to hold them to them ! Or are these contracts not worth the paper they're written on ? Stnana
  • Score: 2

3:36pm Sat 10 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Year one. Just scrape into fourh place by nudging past Liverpool on the last day of the season with a wonder goal from the new England captain Adam Lallana.
Year two. Only just get through the qualifying stages with a last gasp goal from new French international Morgan Schneiderlin. Finish third behind Chelski and ManC
Year three. 2nd in the league and reach the semis of the Champions League losing to Barcelona by a disputed goal which was later proven to be offside by five yards. We were denied five clear cut penalties.
Year four. MoPo turns down the fourth offer of the Barcelona managers job whilst guiding Saints to the Pem title. Real offer £145 million for Luke Shaw and the board tell them not to waste their time with unrealistic offers. Our Academy side wins the FA cup. We win the Champions League at a canter.
Year five. Champions league, Prem without dropping a point, FA cup. MoPo issues another statement telling the fans not to fear for the future as discussions were already under way for the next five year plan. After a large number of suicides on Portsea island following the collapse and liquidation of Poopey FC the mega rich Southampton FC, in a humanitarian gesture, purchase some extra ground as cemetery space is running out. Every headstone, which we also provide to read. "Here lies the bestest bestest fan ever"
Ha! What are you on today, CD? Talk about making stuff up and dreaming unrealistic dreams and all that ............. I mean, really, do you honestly, hand on heart, in your wildest imagination, think the skunts are going to last until 2019? (Chokes on afternoon cuppa, coughs and then .......... hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahaha!!!!
!!!)
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Year one. Just scrape into fourh place by nudging past Liverpool on the last day of the season with a wonder goal from the new England captain Adam Lallana. Year two. Only just get through the qualifying stages with a last gasp goal from new French international Morgan Schneiderlin. Finish third behind Chelski and ManC Year three. 2nd in the league and reach the semis of the Champions League losing to Barcelona by a disputed goal which was later proven to be offside by five yards. We were denied five clear cut penalties. Year four. MoPo turns down the fourth offer of the Barcelona managers job whilst guiding Saints to the Pem title. Real offer £145 million for Luke Shaw and the board tell them not to waste their time with unrealistic offers. Our Academy side wins the FA cup. We win the Champions League at a canter. Year five. Champions league, Prem without dropping a point, FA cup. MoPo issues another statement telling the fans not to fear for the future as discussions were already under way for the next five year plan. After a large number of suicides on Portsea island following the collapse and liquidation of Poopey FC the mega rich Southampton FC, in a humanitarian gesture, purchase some extra ground as cemetery space is running out. Every headstone, which we also provide to read. "Here lies the bestest bestest fan ever"[/p][/quote]Ha! What are you on today, CD? Talk about making stuff up and dreaming unrealistic dreams and all that ............. I mean, really, do you honestly, hand on heart, in your wildest imagination, think the skunts are going to last until 2019? (Chokes on afternoon cuppa, coughs and then .......... hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha!!!! !!!) Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 3

3:41pm Sat 10 May 14

Costa Baz says...

Malcombe wrote:
Costa Baz Ings is from Southampton and a Saints Fan and probably has a home in the area however he has been linked since he's been scoring regularly for Burnley but now they are in the Premiership perhaps he's achieved his ambition. Do you live on a Costa? I was in Blanca in Los Altos for 12 years until last year but never failed to follow the best Team in the world The Saints who I've seen and followed for 40 years
Ings is from Netley and slipped through our fingers, as a young'un, so clearly has a good attitude as proved by not giving up.
Could be the type of player that would do well for us, and has just 18 months left on his current deal, I believe.

I'm not too far from Los Altos, at Entre Naranjos. We were known as the lost white city for years, because of the lack of bars etc, but that has now changed. We love it because it is so peaceful there.
Also just a 5 minute walk from the first tee, although I haven't played for a while. Will have to start using the bowls green, instead, to save my knees.

Have followed Saints, since the 60's and have made it to every final, except the JPT, in that time.
Frustratin following the a Saints, from here and I need to change my internet provider, as the one I have is becoming too unreliable with the download speeds are getting slower, causing lots of buffering when streaming games!!
Lost count of the times I've recovered a stream to see teams celebrating a goal, that I'd missed.
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: Costa Baz Ings is from Southampton and a Saints Fan and probably has a home in the area however he has been linked since he's been scoring regularly for Burnley but now they are in the Premiership perhaps he's achieved his ambition. Do you live on a Costa? I was in Blanca in Los Altos for 12 years until last year but never failed to follow the best Team in the world The Saints who I've seen and followed for 40 years[/p][/quote]Ings is from Netley and slipped through our fingers, as a young'un, so clearly has a good attitude as proved by not giving up. Could be the type of player that would do well for us, and has just 18 months left on his current deal, I believe. I'm not too far from Los Altos, at Entre Naranjos. We were known as the lost white city for years, because of the lack of bars etc, but that has now changed. We love it because it is so peaceful there. Also just a 5 minute walk from the first tee, although I haven't played for a while. Will have to start using the bowls green, instead, to save my knees. Have followed Saints, since the 60's and have made it to every final, except the JPT, in that time. Frustratin following the a Saints, from here and I need to change my internet provider, as the one I have is becoming too unreliable with the download speeds are getting slower, causing lots of buffering when streaming games!! Lost count of the times I've recovered a stream to see teams celebrating a goal, that I'd missed. Costa Baz
  • Score: 0

4:22pm Sat 10 May 14

Clever Dick says...

No of course not. I just had to put it at the end of the year five plan or else it would have got in the way of the fantasy........... Sorry I mean the totally realistic plan. I was being a little optimistic on winning the Prem with maximum points. It's just that I,m not sure if Clutter brain will still be reffing then. If he gets one of our games we might only get a 6all draw. That'll be 6 scorchers for us and 6 penalties for the oppo.
No of course not. I just had to put it at the end of the year five plan or else it would have got in the way of the fantasy........... Sorry I mean the totally realistic plan. I was being a little optimistic on winning the Prem with maximum points. It's just that I,m not sure if Clutter brain will still be reffing then. If he gets one of our games we might only get a 6all draw. That'll be 6 scorchers for us and 6 penalties for the oppo. Clever Dick
  • Score: 0

4:28pm Sat 10 May 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Need two tickets for tomorrow. Anyone not need theirs or know of someone with two to sell?
Need two tickets for tomorrow. Anyone not need theirs or know of someone with two to sell? Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 0

4:39pm Sat 10 May 14

saint christopher says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
I agree we don't need to fear the future, thanks to Marcus & Nicola that is secured. However the next five year plan must already be in place following Katharina's commitment and new Board Appointments which must be to take us forward not just to settle for mid-table.
We are at a cross roads with a great unity between a young playing squad and management, it would be foolish to break this up when for the sake of about four top players we could be a top four team next season. There is enough money coming in to do this so we will see over the next 2 or 3 weeks, but the Board need to act quickly otherwise there will be unrest between players and manager.
Exactly.

Given the importance of knowing the new board's vision and financial commitment (which directly affects Poch's decision re his future - which directly affects the decisions of probably 3 or 4 of our best players) I find it increasingly surprising that the club hymn sheet continues to say "we'll all start talking about this after Sunday".

Surely such fundamental business decisions should already have been drafted in principle? Perhaps they have and as usual Saints are just admitting to nothing, which is fine to a point but not when it results in other clubs being encouraged to make approaches and unsettle players.

If Saints have genuinely left all these vital decisions to next week my fear is that we may find that the more pro-active approaches of other clubs etc has undermined us before we've even started negotiations, or that they have stolen a march on many of our potential transfer targets.

Time will tell.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: I agree we don't need to fear the future, thanks to Marcus & Nicola that is secured. However the next five year plan must already be in place following Katharina's commitment and new Board Appointments which must be to take us forward not just to settle for mid-table. We are at a cross roads with a great unity between a young playing squad and management, it would be foolish to break this up when for the sake of about four top players we could be a top four team next season. There is enough money coming in to do this so we will see over the next 2 or 3 weeks, but the Board need to act quickly otherwise there will be unrest between players and manager.[/p][/quote]Exactly. Given the importance of knowing the new board's vision and financial commitment (which directly affects Poch's decision re his future - which directly affects the decisions of probably 3 or 4 of our best players) I find it increasingly surprising that the club hymn sheet continues to say "we'll all start talking about this after Sunday". Surely such fundamental business decisions should already have been drafted in principle? Perhaps they have and as usual Saints are just admitting to nothing, which is fine to a point but not when it results in other clubs being encouraged to make approaches and unsettle players. If Saints have genuinely left all these vital decisions to next week my fear is that we may find that the more pro-active approaches of other clubs etc has undermined us before we've even started negotiations, or that they have stolen a march on many of our potential transfer targets. Time will tell. saint christopher
  • Score: 0

4:48pm Sat 10 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Clever Dick wrote:
No of course not. I just had to put it at the end of the year five plan or else it would have got in the way of the fantasy........... Sorry I mean the totally realistic plan. I was being a little optimistic on winning the Prem with maximum points. It's just that I,m not sure if Clutter brain will still be reffing then. If he gets one of our games we might only get a 6all draw. That'll be 6 scorchers for us and 6 penalties for the oppo.
Fair point! You may need to revise the max points thing once we know what Clutterbrain's plans are. Maybe, by then, he will have retired having written his memoires: 'Life as a Genius (How I would have single-handedly won the World Cup for England had I not sacrificed my playing career for the selfless task of refereeing)'.

However, max points aside, I thought the realism was pretty well spot on until that strange, unrealistic bit about the 5-year survival of the skunts.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: No of course not. I just had to put it at the end of the year five plan or else it would have got in the way of the fantasy........... Sorry I mean the totally realistic plan. I was being a little optimistic on winning the Prem with maximum points. It's just that I,m not sure if Clutter brain will still be reffing then. If he gets one of our games we might only get a 6all draw. That'll be 6 scorchers for us and 6 penalties for the oppo.[/p][/quote]Fair point! You may need to revise the max points thing once we know what Clutterbrain's plans are. Maybe, by then, he will have retired having written his memoires: 'Life as a Genius (How I would have single-handedly won the World Cup for England had I not sacrificed my playing career for the selfless task of refereeing)'. However, max points aside, I thought the realism was pretty well spot on until that strange, unrealistic bit about the 5-year survival of the skunts. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 2

4:49pm Sat 10 May 14

Dorssaints says...

I think mopo will stay, what is more tempting a year at spurs (that is what most spurs managers get) of a new 5 years at Saints? We have always been a selling club we should accept that. What we don't need is a mass exodus. Ajax expect to lose 2 players a season. £35 million for Shaw I think is good money for a left back. I just can't see Adam suiting Liverpool what would happen to Sterling? At Man Utd how could you play Mata and Adam? I hope he stays! My worry is losing either Dejan or Morgan!
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What we will have next season is Hesketh, Gallagher, Taggart, Sims , Stephens pushing on into the squad , Mayuka returning, and hopefully a new striker and young keeper bought. I also think the £27m debt will go with sale of Gaston and Osvaldo as well as the £15.6 premiership money.
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The future is bright the future is red and white! COYR!
I think mopo will stay, what is more tempting a year at spurs (that is what most spurs managers get) of a new 5 years at Saints? We have always been a selling club we should accept that. What we don't need is a mass exodus. Ajax expect to lose 2 players a season. £35 million for Shaw I think is good money for a left back. I just can't see Adam suiting Liverpool what would happen to Sterling? At Man Utd how could you play Mata and Adam? I hope he stays! My worry is losing either Dejan or Morgan! . What we will have next season is Hesketh, Gallagher, Taggart, Sims , Stephens pushing on into the squad , Mayuka returning, and hopefully a new striker and young keeper bought. I also think the £27m debt will go with sale of Gaston and Osvaldo as well as the £15.6 premiership money. . The future is bright the future is red and white! COYR! Dorssaints
  • Score: 0

5:05pm Sat 10 May 14

Malcombe says...

Costa Baz Thank you for that, strange name for a place in English Between Oranges we never went there, as regards to a Provider we were there 12 year and stayed with the Devil you know Telefonica later Movie Star, we had many phone calls from others but as humans we talk and never had any with good feed backs because Telefonica had the stranglehold, my Nephew lives in Los Dolses and has had many problems with his Provider who are I can't think but they are well known, when in Spain I returned each year and always went to a Game.
Costa Baz Thank you for that, strange name for a place in English Between Oranges we never went there, as regards to a Provider we were there 12 year and stayed with the Devil you know Telefonica later Movie Star, we had many phone calls from others but as humans we talk and never had any with good feed backs because Telefonica had the stranglehold, my Nephew lives in Los Dolses and has had many problems with his Provider who are I can't think but they are well known, when in Spain I returned each year and always went to a Game. Malcombe
  • Score: 0

5:11pm Sat 10 May 14

Clever Dick says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
No of course not. I just had to put it at the end of the year five plan or else it would have got in the way of the fantasy........... Sorry I mean the totally realistic plan. I was being a little optimistic on winning the Prem with maximum points. It's just that I,m not sure if Clutter brain will still be reffing then. If he gets one of our games we might only get a 6all draw. That'll be 6 scorchers for us and 6 penalties for the oppo.
Fair point! You may need to revise the max points thing once we know what Clutterbrain's plans are. Maybe, by then, he will have retired having written his memoires: 'Life as a Genius (How I would have single-handedly won the World Cup for England had I not sacrificed my playing career for the selfless task of refereeing)'.

However, max points aside, I thought the realism was pretty well spot on until that strange, unrealistic bit about the 5-year survival of the skunts.
Well yes it is pretty realistic. My only fear is that five years down the line we will have got used to winning every game comfortably, without conceding a single goal and things could get a little boring. Every superstar in the world will want to come to us only to find that our next academy graduate is better than them. And with the forthcoming extension to the stadium to 250000 capacity we may on occasions not fill it. Only if we were to draw a small club like Poopey in the cup for example. Obviously as aforementioned they won't be in existence but hey there are plenty of other tiny clubs like them out there. So it's going to be a pretty difficult task setting a new five year plan beyond this next one. I'm glad it's not my job. I'm just a totally realistic fan.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: No of course not. I just had to put it at the end of the year five plan or else it would have got in the way of the fantasy........... Sorry I mean the totally realistic plan. I was being a little optimistic on winning the Prem with maximum points. It's just that I,m not sure if Clutter brain will still be reffing then. If he gets one of our games we might only get a 6all draw. That'll be 6 scorchers for us and 6 penalties for the oppo.[/p][/quote]Fair point! You may need to revise the max points thing once we know what Clutterbrain's plans are. Maybe, by then, he will have retired having written his memoires: 'Life as a Genius (How I would have single-handedly won the World Cup for England had I not sacrificed my playing career for the selfless task of refereeing)'. However, max points aside, I thought the realism was pretty well spot on until that strange, unrealistic bit about the 5-year survival of the skunts.[/p][/quote]Well yes it is pretty realistic. My only fear is that five years down the line we will have got used to winning every game comfortably, without conceding a single goal and things could get a little boring. Every superstar in the world will want to come to us only to find that our next academy graduate is better than them. And with the forthcoming extension to the stadium to 250000 capacity we may on occasions not fill it. Only if we were to draw a small club like Poopey in the cup for example. Obviously as aforementioned they won't be in existence but hey there are plenty of other tiny clubs like them out there. So it's going to be a pretty difficult task setting a new five year plan beyond this next one. I'm glad it's not my job. I'm just a totally realistic fan. Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

5:14pm Sat 10 May 14

lowemustgo says...

The 'Magnifico Scenario' is Poch learns to speak English in press conferences! That's not going to take another five years!
The 'Magnifico Scenario' is Poch learns to speak English in press conferences! That's not going to take another five years! lowemustgo
  • Score: 0

5:15pm Sat 10 May 14

lowemustgo says...

Oh! And next season the Saints 'B' Team can thrash Portsmouth in the new league 3!!!
Oh! And next season the Saints 'B' Team can thrash Portsmouth in the new league 3!!! lowemustgo
  • Score: 0

5:30pm Sat 10 May 14

Stnana says...

Congratulations to Sholing for winning at Wembley today. They are going to be presented to the crowd at St Mary's tomorrow before the match. Any truth in the rumour that several will be signing contracts so they can replace our departing players !
Congratulations to Sholing for winning at Wembley today. They are going to be presented to the crowd at St Mary's tomorrow before the match. Any truth in the rumour that several will be signing contracts so they can replace our departing players ! Stnana
  • Score: -1

5:30pm Sat 10 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
No of course not. I just had to put it at the end of the year five plan or else it would have got in the way of the fantasy........... Sorry I mean the totally realistic plan. I was being a little optimistic on winning the Prem with maximum points. It's just that I,m not sure if Clutter brain will still be reffing then. If he gets one of our games we might only get a 6all draw. That'll be 6 scorchers for us and 6 penalties for the oppo.
Fair point! You may need to revise the max points thing once we know what Clutterbrain's plans are. Maybe, by then, he will have retired having written his memoires: 'Life as a Genius (How I would have single-handedly won the World Cup for England had I not sacrificed my playing career for the selfless task of refereeing)'.

However, max points aside, I thought the realism was pretty well spot on until that strange, unrealistic bit about the 5-year survival of the skunts.
Well yes it is pretty realistic. My only fear is that five years down the line we will have got used to winning every game comfortably, without conceding a single goal and things could get a little boring. Every superstar in the world will want to come to us only to find that our next academy graduate is better than them. And with the forthcoming extension to the stadium to 250000 capacity we may on occasions not fill it. Only if we were to draw a small club like Poopey in the cup for example. Obviously as aforementioned they won't be in existence but hey there are plenty of other tiny clubs like them out there. So it's going to be a pretty difficult task setting a new five year plan beyond this next one. I'm glad it's not my job. I'm just a totally realistic fan.
My fear is that FIFA will be so p!ssed off with us and our mega huge academy of world class players that they'll scrap all the poorer teams, like, for example, Bayern and Barca, and introduce a new 2-team super league: - us vs. the rest of the world and we'll have to play (and, of course, beat) them every week, 19 times at home, 19 times away and for 5 rounds of the League Cup and FA Cup, and play all the 2-team group stages and knock outs for both the Europa League and Champions League, and, eventually, a 2-team World Cup for which we'll simply be known as 'The Saints formerly known as England'.

It'll be so embarrassing; when we play one of our away games in, say, Rio and half the crowd are locals who proudly support us, even though they have never even been to Southampton, imagine the taunts (in Portuguese of course) - 'We support our local teeeeeeeam, we support our local team'.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: No of course not. I just had to put it at the end of the year five plan or else it would have got in the way of the fantasy........... Sorry I mean the totally realistic plan. I was being a little optimistic on winning the Prem with maximum points. It's just that I,m not sure if Clutter brain will still be reffing then. If he gets one of our games we might only get a 6all draw. That'll be 6 scorchers for us and 6 penalties for the oppo.[/p][/quote]Fair point! You may need to revise the max points thing once we know what Clutterbrain's plans are. Maybe, by then, he will have retired having written his memoires: 'Life as a Genius (How I would have single-handedly won the World Cup for England had I not sacrificed my playing career for the selfless task of refereeing)'. However, max points aside, I thought the realism was pretty well spot on until that strange, unrealistic bit about the 5-year survival of the skunts.[/p][/quote]Well yes it is pretty realistic. My only fear is that five years down the line we will have got used to winning every game comfortably, without conceding a single goal and things could get a little boring. Every superstar in the world will want to come to us only to find that our next academy graduate is better than them. And with the forthcoming extension to the stadium to 250000 capacity we may on occasions not fill it. Only if we were to draw a small club like Poopey in the cup for example. Obviously as aforementioned they won't be in existence but hey there are plenty of other tiny clubs like them out there. So it's going to be a pretty difficult task setting a new five year plan beyond this next one. I'm glad it's not my job. I'm just a totally realistic fan.[/p][/quote]My fear is that FIFA will be so p!ssed off with us and our mega huge academy of world class players that they'll scrap all the poorer teams, like, for example, Bayern and Barca, and introduce a new 2-team super league: - us vs. the rest of the world and we'll have to play (and, of course, beat) them every week, 19 times at home, 19 times away and for 5 rounds of the League Cup and FA Cup, and play all the 2-team group stages and knock outs for both the Europa League and Champions League, and, eventually, a 2-team World Cup for which we'll simply be known as 'The Saints formerly known as England'. It'll be so embarrassing; when we play one of our away games in, say, Rio and half the crowd are locals who proudly support us, even though they have never even been to Southampton, imagine the taunts (in Portuguese of course) - 'We support our local teeeeeeeam, we support our local team'. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

5:33pm Sat 10 May 14

Stnana says...

Oh and maybe the real reason Dave Diaper is retiring as their manager is because he'll be at Saints next season !
Oh and maybe the real reason Dave Diaper is retiring as their manager is because he'll be at Saints next season ! Stnana
  • Score: 1

5:40pm Sat 10 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Stnana wrote:
Oh and maybe the real reason Dave Diaper is retiring as their manager is because he'll be at Saints next season !
Don't jest about such things, there are people out there who will think you're a WUM on a wind up and give you stick. (Made me chuckle, though!)

And, yes, well done Sholing! What a great season for football in the SO post code area.
[quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: Oh and maybe the real reason Dave Diaper is retiring as their manager is because he'll be at Saints next season ![/p][/quote]Don't jest about such things, there are people out there who will think you're a WUM on a wind up and give you stick. (Made me chuckle, though!) And, yes, well done Sholing! What a great season for football in the SO post code area. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 4

5:50pm Sat 10 May 14

Clever Dick says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
No of course not. I just had to put it at the end of the year five plan or else it would have got in the way of the fantasy........... Sorry I mean the totally realistic plan. I was being a little optimistic on winning the Prem with maximum points. It's just that I,m not sure if Clutter brain will still be reffing then. If he gets one of our games we might only get a 6all draw. That'll be 6 scorchers for us and 6 penalties for the oppo.
Fair point! You may need to revise the max points thing once we know what Clutterbrain's plans are. Maybe, by then, he will have retired having written his memoires: 'Life as a Genius (How I would have single-handedly won the World Cup for England had I not sacrificed my playing career for the selfless task of refereeing)'.

However, max points aside, I thought the realism was pretty well spot on until that strange, unrealistic bit about the 5-year survival of the skunts.
Well yes it is pretty realistic. My only fear is that five years down the line we will have got used to winning every game comfortably, without conceding a single goal and things could get a little boring. Every superstar in the world will want to come to us only to find that our next academy graduate is better than them. And with the forthcoming extension to the stadium to 250000 capacity we may on occasions not fill it. Only if we were to draw a small club like Poopey in the cup for example. Obviously as aforementioned they won't be in existence but hey there are plenty of other tiny clubs like them out there. So it's going to be a pretty difficult task setting a new five year plan beyond this next one. I'm glad it's not my job. I'm just a totally realistic fan.
My fear is that FIFA will be so p!ssed off with us and our mega huge academy of world class players that they'll scrap all the poorer teams, like, for example, Bayern and Barca, and introduce a new 2-team super league: - us vs. the rest of the world and we'll have to play (and, of course, beat) them every week, 19 times at home, 19 times away and for 5 rounds of the League Cup and FA Cup, and play all the 2-team group stages and knock outs for both the Europa League and Champions League, and, eventually, a 2-team World Cup for which we'll simply be known as 'The Saints formerly known as England'.

It'll be so embarrassing; when we play one of our away games in, say, Rio and half the crowd are locals who proudly support us, even though they have never even been to Southampton, imagine the taunts (in Portuguese of course) - 'We support our local teeeeeeeam, we support our local team'.
Well that's two of us who pass the totally realistic test. I wonder how many more of us there are out there.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: No of course not. I just had to put it at the end of the year five plan or else it would have got in the way of the fantasy........... Sorry I mean the totally realistic plan. I was being a little optimistic on winning the Prem with maximum points. It's just that I,m not sure if Clutter brain will still be reffing then. If he gets one of our games we might only get a 6all draw. That'll be 6 scorchers for us and 6 penalties for the oppo.[/p][/quote]Fair point! You may need to revise the max points thing once we know what Clutterbrain's plans are. Maybe, by then, he will have retired having written his memoires: 'Life as a Genius (How I would have single-handedly won the World Cup for England had I not sacrificed my playing career for the selfless task of refereeing)'. However, max points aside, I thought the realism was pretty well spot on until that strange, unrealistic bit about the 5-year survival of the skunts.[/p][/quote]Well yes it is pretty realistic. My only fear is that five years down the line we will have got used to winning every game comfortably, without conceding a single goal and things could get a little boring. Every superstar in the world will want to come to us only to find that our next academy graduate is better than them. And with the forthcoming extension to the stadium to 250000 capacity we may on occasions not fill it. Only if we were to draw a small club like Poopey in the cup for example. Obviously as aforementioned they won't be in existence but hey there are plenty of other tiny clubs like them out there. So it's going to be a pretty difficult task setting a new five year plan beyond this next one. I'm glad it's not my job. I'm just a totally realistic fan.[/p][/quote]My fear is that FIFA will be so p!ssed off with us and our mega huge academy of world class players that they'll scrap all the poorer teams, like, for example, Bayern and Barca, and introduce a new 2-team super league: - us vs. the rest of the world and we'll have to play (and, of course, beat) them every week, 19 times at home, 19 times away and for 5 rounds of the League Cup and FA Cup, and play all the 2-team group stages and knock outs for both the Europa League and Champions League, and, eventually, a 2-team World Cup for which we'll simply be known as 'The Saints formerly known as England'. It'll be so embarrassing; when we play one of our away games in, say, Rio and half the crowd are locals who proudly support us, even though they have never even been to Southampton, imagine the taunts (in Portuguese of course) - 'We support our local teeeeeeeam, we support our local team'.[/p][/quote]Well that's two of us who pass the totally realistic test. I wonder how many more of us there are out there. Clever Dick
  • Score: 1

5:55pm Sat 10 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

saint christopher wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
I agree we don't need to fear the future, thanks to Marcus & Nicola that is secured. However the next five year plan must already be in place following Katharina's commitment and new Board Appointments which must be to take us forward not just to settle for mid-table.
We are at a cross roads with a great unity between a young playing squad and management, it would be foolish to break this up when for the sake of about four top players we could be a top four team next season. There is enough money coming in to do this so we will see over the next 2 or 3 weeks, but the Board need to act quickly otherwise there will be unrest between players and manager.
Exactly.

Given the importance of knowing the new board's vision and financial commitment (which directly affects Poch's decision re his future - which directly affects the decisions of probably 3 or 4 of our best players) I find it increasingly surprising that the club hymn sheet continues to say "we'll all start talking about this after Sunday".

Surely such fundamental business decisions should already have been drafted in principle? Perhaps they have and as usual Saints are just admitting to nothing, which is fine to a point but not when it results in other clubs being encouraged to make approaches and unsettle players.

If Saints have genuinely left all these vital decisions to next week my fear is that we may find that the more pro-active approaches of other clubs etc has undermined us before we've even started negotiations, or that they have stolen a march on many of our potential transfer targets.

Time will tell.
Brenda hasn't agreed a new deal with diverpool yet and said that he is waiting until the end of the season. is that any different to whats happening with us? no one is saying that Brenda is going to leave diverpool though are they. Brenda also said that they have been talking about the future, Les Reed also said that he and MP have been talking about the future, again is that any different to us? so why are the press constantly printing stories about MP leaving? do they know something or are they trying to make it happen or are they getting fed info from another source?
arsene wengers contract is up at he end of the season and he is being linked with all sorts of jobs, now that is different to our situation.
the club and MP have stated several times that they are talking about the future and have worked on pre-season, player targets and possible departures. to do this MP must have been given an idea of a potential budget. we know that there will be no players leaving or coming in without MP`s say so, all this leads us to believe that MP is considering staying. I am confident that in the coming days/weeks there will be an announcement from the club confirming MP`s new contract. as I always say though, I could be very wrong!
[quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: I agree we don't need to fear the future, thanks to Marcus & Nicola that is secured. However the next five year plan must already be in place following Katharina's commitment and new Board Appointments which must be to take us forward not just to settle for mid-table. We are at a cross roads with a great unity between a young playing squad and management, it would be foolish to break this up when for the sake of about four top players we could be a top four team next season. There is enough money coming in to do this so we will see over the next 2 or 3 weeks, but the Board need to act quickly otherwise there will be unrest between players and manager.[/p][/quote]Exactly. Given the importance of knowing the new board's vision and financial commitment (which directly affects Poch's decision re his future - which directly affects the decisions of probably 3 or 4 of our best players) I find it increasingly surprising that the club hymn sheet continues to say "we'll all start talking about this after Sunday". Surely such fundamental business decisions should already have been drafted in principle? Perhaps they have and as usual Saints are just admitting to nothing, which is fine to a point but not when it results in other clubs being encouraged to make approaches and unsettle players. If Saints have genuinely left all these vital decisions to next week my fear is that we may find that the more pro-active approaches of other clubs etc has undermined us before we've even started negotiations, or that they have stolen a march on many of our potential transfer targets. Time will tell.[/p][/quote]Brenda hasn't agreed a new deal with diverpool yet and said that he is waiting until the end of the season. is that any different to whats happening with us? no one is saying that Brenda is going to leave diverpool though are they. Brenda also said that they have been talking about the future, Les Reed also said that he and MP have been talking about the future, again is that any different to us? so why are the press constantly printing stories about MP leaving? do they know something or are they trying to make it happen or are they getting fed info from another source? arsene wengers contract is up at he end of the season and he is being linked with all sorts of jobs, now that is different to our situation. the club and MP have stated several times that they are talking about the future and have worked on pre-season, player targets and possible departures. to do this MP must have been given an idea of a potential budget. we know that there will be no players leaving or coming in without MP`s say so, all this leads us to believe that MP is considering staying. I am confident that in the coming days/weeks there will be an announcement from the club confirming MP`s new contract. as I always say though, I could be very wrong! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 5

6:38pm Sat 10 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
No of course not. I just had to put it at the end of the year five plan or else it would have got in the way of the fantasy........... Sorry I mean the totally realistic plan. I was being a little optimistic on winning the Prem with maximum points. It's just that I,m not sure if Clutter brain will still be reffing then. If he gets one of our games we might only get a 6all draw. That'll be 6 scorchers for us and 6 penalties for the oppo.
Fair point! You may need to revise the max points thing once we know what Clutterbrain's plans are. Maybe, by then, he will have retired having written his memoires: 'Life as a Genius (How I would have single-handedly won the World Cup for England had I not sacrificed my playing career for the selfless task of refereeing)'.

However, max points aside, I thought the realism was pretty well spot on until that strange, unrealistic bit about the 5-year survival of the skunts.
Well yes it is pretty realistic. My only fear is that five years down the line we will have got used to winning every game comfortably, without conceding a single goal and things could get a little boring. Every superstar in the world will want to come to us only to find that our next academy graduate is better than them. And with the forthcoming extension to the stadium to 250000 capacity we may on occasions not fill it. Only if we were to draw a small club like Poopey in the cup for example. Obviously as aforementioned they won't be in existence but hey there are plenty of other tiny clubs like them out there. So it's going to be a pretty difficult task setting a new five year plan beyond this next one. I'm glad it's not my job. I'm just a totally realistic fan.
My fear is that FIFA will be so p!ssed off with us and our mega huge academy of world class players that they'll scrap all the poorer teams, like, for example, Bayern and Barca, and introduce a new 2-team super league: - us vs. the rest of the world and we'll have to play (and, of course, beat) them every week, 19 times at home, 19 times away and for 5 rounds of the League Cup and FA Cup, and play all the 2-team group stages and knock outs for both the Europa League and Champions League, and, eventually, a 2-team World Cup for which we'll simply be known as 'The Saints formerly known as England'.

It'll be so embarrassing; when we play one of our away games in, say, Rio and half the crowd are locals who proudly support us, even though they have never even been to Southampton, imagine the taunts (in Portuguese of course) - 'We support our local teeeeeeeam, we support our local team'.
Well that's two of us who pass the totally realistic test. I wonder how many more of us there are out there.
Give or take one or two, literally billions, maybe more.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: No of course not. I just had to put it at the end of the year five plan or else it would have got in the way of the fantasy........... Sorry I mean the totally realistic plan. I was being a little optimistic on winning the Prem with maximum points. It's just that I,m not sure if Clutter brain will still be reffing then. If he gets one of our games we might only get a 6all draw. That'll be 6 scorchers for us and 6 penalties for the oppo.[/p][/quote]Fair point! You may need to revise the max points thing once we know what Clutterbrain's plans are. Maybe, by then, he will have retired having written his memoires: 'Life as a Genius (How I would have single-handedly won the World Cup for England had I not sacrificed my playing career for the selfless task of refereeing)'. However, max points aside, I thought the realism was pretty well spot on until that strange, unrealistic bit about the 5-year survival of the skunts.[/p][/quote]Well yes it is pretty realistic. My only fear is that five years down the line we will have got used to winning every game comfortably, without conceding a single goal and things could get a little boring. Every superstar in the world will want to come to us only to find that our next academy graduate is better than them. And with the forthcoming extension to the stadium to 250000 capacity we may on occasions not fill it. Only if we were to draw a small club like Poopey in the cup for example. Obviously as aforementioned they won't be in existence but hey there are plenty of other tiny clubs like them out there. So it's going to be a pretty difficult task setting a new five year plan beyond this next one. I'm glad it's not my job. I'm just a totally realistic fan.[/p][/quote]My fear is that FIFA will be so p!ssed off with us and our mega huge academy of world class players that they'll scrap all the poorer teams, like, for example, Bayern and Barca, and introduce a new 2-team super league: - us vs. the rest of the world and we'll have to play (and, of course, beat) them every week, 19 times at home, 19 times away and for 5 rounds of the League Cup and FA Cup, and play all the 2-team group stages and knock outs for both the Europa League and Champions League, and, eventually, a 2-team World Cup for which we'll simply be known as 'The Saints formerly known as England'. It'll be so embarrassing; when we play one of our away games in, say, Rio and half the crowd are locals who proudly support us, even though they have never even been to Southampton, imagine the taunts (in Portuguese of course) - 'We support our local teeeeeeeam, we support our local team'.[/p][/quote]Well that's two of us who pass the totally realistic test. I wonder how many more of us there are out there.[/p][/quote]Give or take one or two, literally billions, maybe more. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 0

6:49pm Sat 10 May 14

Costa Baz says...

Malcombe wrote:
Costa Baz Thank you for that, strange name for a place in English Between Oranges we never went there, as regards to a Provider we were there 12 year and stayed with the Devil you know Telefonica later Movie Star, we had many phone calls from others but as humans we talk and never had any with good feed backs because Telefonica had the stranglehold, my Nephew lives in Los Dolses and has had many problems with his Provider who are I can't think but they are well known, when in Spain I returned each year and always went to a Game.
When the Urb was created, it was surrounded by orange groves, hence the name.
It is now surrounded by Jerusalem artichokes - must be more profitable.
Naranjos actually translates as orange trees whereas naranjas is oranges. Just one letter can make a big difference.
I remember a guy going into a shop and asking, for a big chicken.
He couldn't understand why the lady sales assistant burst out laughing, after he had used his best attempt at speaking Spanish.
What he should have said was "Quiero un pollo grande". (I want a big chicken)
What he actually said was "Quiero una polla grande" which, I am reliably informed, translates as " I want a big d*ck". 😆😆
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: Costa Baz Thank you for that, strange name for a place in English Between Oranges we never went there, as regards to a Provider we were there 12 year and stayed with the Devil you know Telefonica later Movie Star, we had many phone calls from others but as humans we talk and never had any with good feed backs because Telefonica had the stranglehold, my Nephew lives in Los Dolses and has had many problems with his Provider who are I can't think but they are well known, when in Spain I returned each year and always went to a Game.[/p][/quote]When the Urb was created, it was surrounded by orange groves, hence the name. It is now surrounded by Jerusalem artichokes - must be more profitable. Naranjos actually translates as orange trees whereas naranjas is oranges. Just one letter can make a big difference. I remember a guy going into a shop and asking, for a big chicken. He couldn't understand why the lady sales assistant burst out laughing, after he had used his best attempt at speaking Spanish. What he should have said was "Quiero un pollo grande". (I want a big chicken) What he actually said was "Quiero una polla grande" which, I am reliably informed, translates as " I want a big d*ck". 😆😆 Costa Baz
  • Score: 0

7:45pm Sat 10 May 14

peregrine73 says...

I think we all have be realistic, Shaw and Lallana are much sought after by the top premiership clubs and given the right price then they will be on there way very soon.Given this and little board comment could be hugely influencal in MPstaying . This outcome will determine whether we struggle or progress next season.
I think we all have be realistic, Shaw and Lallana are much sought after by the top premiership clubs and given the right price then they will be on there way very soon.Given this and little board comment could be hugely influencal in MPstaying . This outcome will determine whether we struggle or progress next season. peregrine73
  • Score: -3

8:09pm Sat 10 May 14

jls217 says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Has everyone seen the back page of the sun today? apparently lalla is `pleading` to go to Anfield! the sun claimed Lallana pleaded to Les Reed to let him go to Anfield. It said he has has admitted the Saints star has had talks with him and told him he wants to go.
The chief executive said Lallana is a loyal Saints player but he wanted to become a big star and wants a dream move to a big club.
The paper said Saints board will have trouble keeping key players and MP and losing more money so they will hold meeting to decide the club's future. They said the big clubs are winning and Saints are losing.

we know the club are more `open` now and there are more interviews and information coming out of the club but does anyone think that les reed has spoken to the media about lalla pleading for a move?
is this just more media rubbish, are the sun trying to win back the hearts of diverpools supporters, is the story true? or is there something more sinister going on here? are the press being briefed by a former employee with an axe to grind?
The same paper today reports that Osvaldo is wanted by Valencia. Let's hope their gossip gatherers are not wrong 100% of the time then.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: Has everyone seen the back page of the sun today? apparently lalla is `pleading` to go to Anfield! the sun claimed Lallana pleaded to Les Reed to let him go to Anfield. It said he has has admitted the Saints star has had talks with him and told him he wants to go. The chief executive said Lallana is a loyal Saints player but he wanted to become a big star and wants a dream move to a big club. The paper said Saints board will have trouble keeping key players and MP and losing more money so they will hold meeting to decide the club's future. They said the big clubs are winning and Saints are losing. we know the club are more `open` now and there are more interviews and information coming out of the club but does anyone think that les reed has spoken to the media about lalla pleading for a move? is this just more media rubbish, are the sun trying to win back the hearts of diverpools supporters, is the story true? or is there something more sinister going on here? are the press being briefed by a former employee with an axe to grind?[/p][/quote]The same paper today reports that Osvaldo is wanted by Valencia. Let's hope their gossip gatherers are not wrong 100% of the time then. jls217
  • Score: 2

8:09pm Sat 10 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

The players are asking that they can be allowed to do their lap of honour to thank us, the fans, for the support we that have given them this year, as long as Guly doesn't score the winner, I hope we can keep cool and recognise their request. It is not as if we have actually won anything is it? 8th is a fantastic achievement and I think we should enjoy that in a sensible way.
The players are asking that they can be allowed to do their lap of honour to thank us, the fans, for the support we that have given them this year, as long as Guly doesn't score the winner, I hope we can keep cool and recognise their request. It is not as if we have actually won anything is it? 8th is a fantastic achievement and I think we should enjoy that in a sensible way. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

8:17pm Sat 10 May 14

jls217 says...

Saw what could be next season's strip today. If it is accurate we don't have stripes but we do have more white showing and it is a huge improvement on the one we will be seeing tomorrow for hopefully the last time. There will still be a lot of fans who won't like it I fear. As far as I could tell this was the genuine article anyone else seen it yet?
Saw what could be next season's strip today. If it is accurate we don't have stripes but we do have more white showing and it is a huge improvement on the one we will be seeing tomorrow for hopefully the last time. There will still be a lot of fans who won't like it I fear. As far as I could tell this was the genuine article anyone else seen it yet? jls217
  • Score: 0

8:23pm Sat 10 May 14

jls217 says...

Got to the point where I am no longer fretting about who is signing again or is likely to leave.

It has lost its importance, if the big money players go they will produce a huge transfer budget. There are some fantastic players at the end of their contracts in June. Gomis and Diouf two top rated strikers - any one will do. A couple of top notch keepers avail too. If we can snap up a free (they're never really free but as near as **** it) or two and for every player leaving we can sign two - we have nothing to worry about. Being pragmatic about something can lead to a lot of disappointment hope not in this case. Next season will be better than this no matter who leaves!!!
Got to the point where I am no longer fretting about who is signing again or is likely to leave. It has lost its importance, if the big money players go they will produce a huge transfer budget. There are some fantastic players at the end of their contracts in June. Gomis and Diouf two top rated strikers - any one will do. A couple of top notch keepers avail too. If we can snap up a free (they're never really free but as near as **** it) or two and for every player leaving we can sign two - we have nothing to worry about. Being pragmatic about something can lead to a lot of disappointment hope not in this case. Next season will be better than this no matter who leaves!!! jls217
  • Score: 0

8:42pm Sat 10 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

peregrine73 wrote:
I think we all have be realistic, Shaw and Lallana are much sought after by the top premiership clubs and given the right price then they will be on there way very soon.Given this and little board comment could be hugely influencal in MPstaying . This outcome will determine whether we struggle or progress next season.
so why is saying that if other clubs ask to buy our players we have to sell them being realistic?
I could easily counter that and say,
lets be realistic, why should a club whos just had a great season in the prem and is financially sound be tempted to sell its players to clubs we are hoping to compete against next season? clubs that are flirting with both the prems and uefas FFP rules!
[quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: I think we all have be realistic, Shaw and Lallana are much sought after by the top premiership clubs and given the right price then they will be on there way very soon.Given this and little board comment could be hugely influencal in MPstaying . This outcome will determine whether we struggle or progress next season.[/p][/quote]so why is saying that if other clubs ask to buy our players we have to sell them being realistic? I could easily counter that and say, lets be realistic, why should a club whos just had a great season in the prem and is financially sound be tempted to sell its players to clubs we are hoping to compete against next season? clubs that are flirting with both the prems and uefas FFP rules! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 4

9:38pm Sat 10 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

In case anyone's interested, here in France, with Sochaux desperately needing a goal to give themselves any hope of avoiding the drop, Manu Mayuka (who hasn't been getting a lot of match time lately) has just come on as a 76th minute sub and ............... he has scored with his first touch (a header).
In case anyone's interested, here in France, with Sochaux desperately needing a goal to give themselves any hope of avoiding the drop, Manu Mayuka (who hasn't been getting a lot of match time lately) has just come on as a 76th minute sub and ............... he has scored with his first touch (a header). Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 6

10:14pm Sat 10 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
In case anyone's interested, here in France, with Sochaux desperately needing a goal to give themselves any hope of avoiding the drop, Manu Mayuka (who hasn't been getting a lot of match time lately) has just come on as a 76th minute sub and ............... he has scored with his first touch (a header).
thanks for that stras, always good to hear of a saint scoring.
more importantly though, is the French Eurovision song as daft as it sounded? something to do with a moustache if you didn't see it!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: In case anyone's interested, here in France, with Sochaux desperately needing a goal to give themselves any hope of avoiding the drop, Manu Mayuka (who hasn't been getting a lot of match time lately) has just come on as a 76th minute sub and ............... he has scored with his first touch (a header).[/p][/quote]thanks for that stras, always good to hear of a saint scoring. more importantly though, is the French Eurovision song as daft as it sounded? something to do with a moustache if you didn't see it! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

10:49pm Sat 10 May 14

peregrine73 says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
peregrine73 wrote:
I think we all have be realistic, Shaw and Lallana are much sought after by the top premiership clubs and given the right price then they will be on there way very soon.Given this and little board comment could be hugely influencal in MPstaying . This outcome will determine whether we struggle or progress next season.
so why is saying that if other clubs ask to buy our players we have to sell them being realistic?
I could easily counter that and say,
lets be realistic, why should a club whos just had a great season in the prem and is financially sound be tempted to sell its players to clubs we are hoping to compete against next season? clubs that are flirting with both the prems and uefas FFP rules!
Realistic is: Top sides like Liverpool + double your wages are going to attract our best players!
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: I think we all have be realistic, Shaw and Lallana are much sought after by the top premiership clubs and given the right price then they will be on there way very soon.Given this and little board comment could be hugely influencal in MPstaying . This outcome will determine whether we struggle or progress next season.[/p][/quote]so why is saying that if other clubs ask to buy our players we have to sell them being realistic? I could easily counter that and say, lets be realistic, why should a club whos just had a great season in the prem and is financially sound be tempted to sell its players to clubs we are hoping to compete against next season? clubs that are flirting with both the prems and uefas FFP rules![/p][/quote]Realistic is: Top sides like Liverpool + double your wages are going to attract our best players! peregrine73
  • Score: -2

10:52pm Sat 10 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
In case anyone's interested, here in France, with Sochaux desperately needing a goal to give themselves any hope of avoiding the drop, Manu Mayuka (who hasn't been getting a lot of match time lately) has just come on as a 76th minute sub and ............... he has scored with his first touch (a header).
thanks for that stras, always good to hear of a saint scoring.
more importantly though, is the French Eurovision song as daft as it sounded? something to do with a moustache if you didn't see it!
We had the final of The Voice here in France tonight with Mika as a judge and Kylie strutting her stuff at the start. So, we missed a lot of it. I did flick over and catch the end of the French one, and it looked like they had the right spirit for Eurovision. Watching the vote now (always the best bit), it looks like France and the UK have their normally amount of friends across the continent.

As for footy, Manu's goal was the winner. Sochaux remain in the bottom 3 and play a winner-takes-all (loser goes down) match against Evian next weekend.

It's been a good w/e so far, Strasbourg won 3-0 last night and also gave themselves a lifeline in their relegation fight.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: In case anyone's interested, here in France, with Sochaux desperately needing a goal to give themselves any hope of avoiding the drop, Manu Mayuka (who hasn't been getting a lot of match time lately) has just come on as a 76th minute sub and ............... he has scored with his first touch (a header).[/p][/quote]thanks for that stras, always good to hear of a saint scoring. more importantly though, is the French Eurovision song as daft as it sounded? something to do with a moustache if you didn't see it![/p][/quote]We had the final of The Voice here in France tonight with Mika as a judge and Kylie strutting her stuff at the start. So, we missed a lot of it. I did flick over and catch the end of the French one, and it looked like they had the right spirit for Eurovision. Watching the vote now (always the best bit), it looks like France and the UK have their normally amount of friends across the continent. As for footy, Manu's goal was the winner. Sochaux remain in the bottom 3 and play a winner-takes-all (loser goes down) match against Evian next weekend. It's been a good w/e so far, Strasbourg won 3-0 last night and also gave themselves a lifeline in their relegation fight. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 0

11:33pm Sat 10 May 14

SaintSteve76 says...

peregrine73 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
peregrine73 wrote:
I think we all have be realistic, Shaw and Lallana are much sought after by the top premiership clubs and given the right price then they will be on there way very soon.Given this and little board comment could be hugely influencal in MPstaying . This outcome will determine whether we struggle or progress next season.
so why is saying that if other clubs ask to buy our players we have to sell them being realistic?
I could easily counter that and say,
lets be realistic, why should a club whos just had a great season in the prem and is financially sound be tempted to sell its players to clubs we are hoping to compete against next season? clubs that are flirting with both the prems and uefas FFP rules!
Realistic is: Top sides like Liverpool + double your wages are going to attract our best players!
What's stopping us from offering him the same wages that Liverpool are offering and assuring him that the club wants to push on and bring in a couple of quality players in the summer. It's not like we can't afford it. The only reason Liverpool are a top club right now is because they have made the financial commitment and kept hold of Suarez despite him wanting to leave. With the players we've got and with Pochettino as manager there's no reason why we can't push on and also become a top club, even finishing in the top four. If however we start to sell our best players we will unfortunately just go back to making up the numbers. Of course I will continue to support the team but it would however be such a shame as I can't remember our team being as strong as it is at the moment. Love him or hate him I would have felt a lot more confident in us progressing had Cortese still been our chairman. If the board can provide Lallana, Pochettino and other key players with assurances, i'm sure they will all be happy to stay. The board need to provide Pochettino with assurances and offer him a new contract asap, preferably on Monday morning as it's becoming a bit unsettling. A new contract for Pochettino is key in terms of key players wanting to stay.
[quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: I think we all have be realistic, Shaw and Lallana are much sought after by the top premiership clubs and given the right price then they will be on there way very soon.Given this and little board comment could be hugely influencal in MPstaying . This outcome will determine whether we struggle or progress next season.[/p][/quote]so why is saying that if other clubs ask to buy our players we have to sell them being realistic? I could easily counter that and say, lets be realistic, why should a club whos just had a great season in the prem and is financially sound be tempted to sell its players to clubs we are hoping to compete against next season? clubs that are flirting with both the prems and uefas FFP rules![/p][/quote]Realistic is: Top sides like Liverpool + double your wages are going to attract our best players![/p][/quote]What's stopping us from offering him the same wages that Liverpool are offering and assuring him that the club wants to push on and bring in a couple of quality players in the summer. It's not like we can't afford it. The only reason Liverpool are a top club right now is because they have made the financial commitment and kept hold of Suarez despite him wanting to leave. With the players we've got and with Pochettino as manager there's no reason why we can't push on and also become a top club, even finishing in the top four. If however we start to sell our best players we will unfortunately just go back to making up the numbers. Of course I will continue to support the team but it would however be such a shame as I can't remember our team being as strong as it is at the moment. Love him or hate him I would have felt a lot more confident in us progressing had Cortese still been our chairman. If the board can provide Lallana, Pochettino and other key players with assurances, i'm sure they will all be happy to stay. The board need to provide Pochettino with assurances and offer him a new contract asap, preferably on Monday morning as it's becoming a bit unsettling. A new contract for Pochettino is key in terms of key players wanting to stay. SaintSteve76
  • Score: 2

1:06am Sun 11 May 14

deepheat says...

I think MP will stay
I think Shaw, Lallana, Lovren etc, will stay.
The big problem will come in the January transfer window.
If Saints are not in the top 5 by Christmas then I can see these players wanting a move. If we can add two or three quality players to bolster our squad, then I think a top 4 place is achievable.
I think MP will stay I think Shaw, Lallana, Lovren etc, will stay. The big problem will come in the January transfer window. If Saints are not in the top 5 by Christmas then I can see these players wanting a move. If we can add two or three quality players to bolster our squad, then I think a top 4 place is achievable. deepheat
  • Score: 4

11:52am Sun 11 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Stnana wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Has everyone seen the back page of the sun today? apparently lalla is `pleading` to go to Anfield! the sun claimed Lallana pleaded to Les Reed to let him go to Anfield. It said he has has admitted the Saints star has had talks with him and told him he wants to go.
The chief executive said Lallana is a loyal Saints player but he wanted to become a big star and wants a dream move to a big club.
The paper said Saints board will have trouble keeping key players and MP and losing more money so they will hold meeting to decide the club's future. They said the big clubs are winning and Saints are losing.

we know the club are more `open` now and there are more interviews and information coming out of the club but does anyone think that les reed has spoken to the media about lalla pleading for a move?
is this just more media rubbish, are the sun trying to win back the hearts of diverpools supporters, is the story true? or is there something more sinister going on here? are the press being briefed by a former employee with an axe to grind?
I don't suppose we'll ever know the truth but as you said a couple of weeks ago if the board wants to sell any players they will but if they don't they just need to remind them and their agents that they have contracts and the club means to hold them to them ! Or are these contracts not worth the paper they're written on ?
or it could have gone like this,

`knock knock` (les reed) "come in adam, what did you want to see me about?"
lalla "hi les, its about the future"
LR "as you know adam we haven't spoken to MP properly yet but we both hope he will sign in the next couple of weeks"
lalla "that good news les, as you know I am happy to stay here and continue to be a saints player. I do have ambition and hope the club share that ambition"
LR "well we hope we can match your ambition adam and we are putting a new 5-year plan into action. we hope it can be as successful as the last 5-year plan"
lalla "ok thanks les that's very reassuring. just in passing though, if you did decide to sell me this summer....."
LR "we aren't planning to adam"
lalla "but if you did could you please sell me to Liverpool."
LR "well as I say there are no plans adam but I will note your request"
[quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: Has everyone seen the back page of the sun today? apparently lalla is `pleading` to go to Anfield! the sun claimed Lallana pleaded to Les Reed to let him go to Anfield. It said he has has admitted the Saints star has had talks with him and told him he wants to go. The chief executive said Lallana is a loyal Saints player but he wanted to become a big star and wants a dream move to a big club. The paper said Saints board will have trouble keeping key players and MP and losing more money so they will hold meeting to decide the club's future. They said the big clubs are winning and Saints are losing. we know the club are more `open` now and there are more interviews and information coming out of the club but does anyone think that les reed has spoken to the media about lalla pleading for a move? is this just more media rubbish, are the sun trying to win back the hearts of diverpools supporters, is the story true? or is there something more sinister going on here? are the press being briefed by a former employee with an axe to grind?[/p][/quote]I don't suppose we'll ever know the truth but as you said a couple of weeks ago if the board wants to sell any players they will but if they don't they just need to remind them and their agents that they have contracts and the club means to hold them to them ! Or are these contracts not worth the paper they're written on ?[/p][/quote]or it could have gone like this, `knock knock` (les reed) "come in adam, what did you want to see me about?" lalla "hi les, its about the future" LR "as you know adam we haven't spoken to MP properly yet but we both hope he will sign in the next couple of weeks" lalla "that good news les, as you know I am happy to stay here and continue to be a saints player. I do have ambition and hope the club share that ambition" LR "well we hope we can match your ambition adam and we are putting a new 5-year plan into action. we hope it can be as successful as the last 5-year plan" lalla "ok thanks les that's very reassuring. just in passing though, if you did decide to sell me this summer....." LR "we aren't planning to adam" lalla "but if you did could you please sell me to Liverpool." LR "well as I say there are no plans adam but I will note your request" el caballo santos101
  • Score: 1

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