Pochettino must pay Saints £2m if he wants to join Tottenham

Daily Echo: Mauricio Pochettino Mauricio Pochettino

MAURICIO Pochettino must pay around £2m to Saints if he wants to join Tottenham with a year left on his existing St Mary's contract.

Former chairman Nicola Cortese inserted such a clause in the manager's contract should he wish to leave early with his contract due to end in the summer of 2015.

Pochettino and Ajax coach Frank De Boer are the front-runners to replace Tim Sherwood, who was sacked yesterday as Tottenham boss after less than six months in the job.

Sherwood left with a 59 per cent Premier League win record, compared to Pochettino's 41 per cent during the same time frame.

Overall, during his 54 league games in charge of Saints, Pochettino's win record is 35 per cent.

De Boer has just won his fourth successive Dutch League title with Ajax, and in his three full seasons in charge has only lost eight games in total.

As a result, he has Champions League managerial experience.

Tottenham have qualified for next season's Europa League after finishing sixth.

Pochettino has never managed in European club competitions and earlier this year stated his dislike of the Europa League.

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7:59am Wed 14 May 14

Ozmosis says...

Spurs fans seem to prefer De Boer over MP, because of his better record with larger clubs. I'm happy with that! ;-)
Spurs fans seem to prefer De Boer over MP, because of his better record with larger clubs. I'm happy with that! ;-) Ozmosis
  • Score: 62

7:59am Wed 14 May 14

andoru says...

Yeah, but he'd get it back when he gets sacked by Spurs next year and Levy has to buy out his contract. Seems to be the Tottenham way.
Yeah, but he'd get it back when he gets sacked by Spurs next year and Levy has to buy out his contract. Seems to be the Tottenham way. andoru
  • Score: 36

8:00am Wed 14 May 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

Well MoPo certainly made sure we wouldn't qualify for the Europa League by fielding that understrength side in the FA Cup tie at Sunderland! So now Hull have qualified, by taking advantage of the most favourable cup draws in recent years, by reaching the FA Cup final. That could so easily have been us.

The DE have got this story about the £2M break clause from this morning's Telegraph. I don't know what to make of it, does it mean it is more likely or less likely to leave?
Well MoPo certainly made sure we wouldn't qualify for the Europa League by fielding that understrength side in the FA Cup tie at Sunderland! So now Hull have qualified, by taking advantage of the most favourable cup draws in recent years, by reaching the FA Cup final. That could so easily have been us. The DE have got this story about the £2M break clause from this morning's Telegraph. I don't know what to make of it, does it mean it is more likely or less likely to leave? Crossley Place Saint
  • Score: 2

8:00am Wed 14 May 14

Golden_Salamander says...

I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed. Golden_Salamander
  • Score: -18

8:02am Wed 14 May 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

The link to the Telegraph story is here:
http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/sport/footbal
l/teams/southampton/
10829087/Southampton
s-Mauricio-Pochettin
o-must-pay-2-million
-to-replace-Tim-Sher
wood-at-Tottenham.ht
ml

It also says that MoPo is keen to leave because there are "fears" that we could sell several players during the summer.
The link to the Telegraph story is here: http://www.telegraph .co.uk/sport/footbal l/teams/southampton/ 10829087/Southampton s-Mauricio-Pochettin o-must-pay-2-million -to-replace-Tim-Sher wood-at-Tottenham.ht ml It also says that MoPo is keen to leave because there are "fears" that we could sell several players during the summer. Crossley Place Saint
  • Score: 4

8:03am Wed 14 May 14

N Smith says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Why would he need to leave his current home to take the spurs job, Harry Redknapp has always lived in Poole , Pulis Odriscol All still live in Bournemouth ..
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Why would he need to leave his current home to take the spurs job, Harry Redknapp has always lived in Poole , Pulis Odriscol All still live in Bournemouth .. N Smith
  • Score: 4

8:17am Wed 14 May 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

N Smith wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Why would he need to leave his current home to take the spurs job, Harry Redknapp has always lived in Poole , Pulis Odriscol All still live in Bournemouth ..
Also , like it or not, Solent University is not one of the best - their position in the University league tables is similar to Pompey's in the football ones. His son could easily move to a Sports Science course at a stronger university in London.
[quote][p][bold]N Smith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Why would he need to leave his current home to take the spurs job, Harry Redknapp has always lived in Poole , Pulis Odriscol All still live in Bournemouth ..[/p][/quote]Also , like it or not, Solent University is not one of the best - their position in the University league tables is similar to Pompey's in the football ones. His son could easily move to a Sports Science course at a stronger university in London. Crossley Place Saint
  • Score: 1

8:23am Wed 14 May 14

andoru says...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
The link to the Telegraph story is here:
http://www.telegraph

.co.uk/sport/footbal

l/teams/southampton/

10829087/Southampton

s-Mauricio-Pochettin

o-must-pay-2-million

-to-replace-Tim-Sher

wood-at-Tottenham.ht

ml

It also says that MoPo is keen to leave because there are "fears" that we could sell several players during the summer.
Yeah but someone in the comments said that his missus heard at Staplewood everything is fine, so there we are. A reliable source. We can all relax.
[quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: The link to the Telegraph story is here: http://www.telegraph .co.uk/sport/footbal l/teams/southampton/ 10829087/Southampton s-Mauricio-Pochettin o-must-pay-2-million -to-replace-Tim-Sher wood-at-Tottenham.ht ml It also says that MoPo is keen to leave because there are "fears" that we could sell several players during the summer.[/p][/quote]Yeah but someone in the comments said that his missus heard at Staplewood everything is fine, so there we are. A reliable source. We can all relax. andoru
  • Score: -1

8:33am Wed 14 May 14

george chivers says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Could you list his bad decisions for me please.
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Could you list his bad decisions for me please. george chivers
  • Score: 26

8:47am Wed 14 May 14

Chipster says...

According to the media the players gave Levy an ultimatum, either Sherwood went or they would all put in transfer requests!
Hopefully if true this will give MoPo food for thought about managing that shower of sh!t with a rattlesnake for a chairman!
According to the media the players gave Levy an ultimatum, either Sherwood went or they would all put in transfer requests! Hopefully if true this will give MoPo food for thought about managing that shower of sh!t with a rattlesnake for a chairman! Chipster
  • Score: 27

8:48am Wed 14 May 14

Velleity says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Genuine question; what have been his bad decisions so far? The only one I can think of is the statement about our finances being poor, as it's put some pressure on us in the market. Even that's pretty marginal - he might have wanted to keep it a little quieter but equally it's probably something that had to be released at some point. Other than that, what's your list?
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Genuine question; what have been his bad decisions so far? The only one I can think of is the statement about our finances being poor, as it's put some pressure on us in the market. Even that's pretty marginal - he might have wanted to keep it a little quieter but equally it's probably something that had to be released at some point. Other than that, what's your list? Velleity
  • Score: 8

8:55am Wed 14 May 14

Alicesdad says...

Reality check. These stories are all smoke and mirrors, it sells newspapers and encourages you to make bets. See it for what it is..

The press is spinning this like a top. The formal statement made by Reed still stands. Nobody with any sanctioned voice has formally said anything that makes me think the MoPo is going. MoPo is planning for the new season and what he really wants is financial backing to take his team forward. The new board is in place, with their own plans, so let them move forward and only trust the reliable sources.

The rest is speculative fiction. Whehn MoPo eventually speaks out, in whatever language, we will know the position. Until then this is a press and bookies fantasy designed to encourage people to spend money on papers and bets.
Reality check. These stories are all smoke and mirrors, it sells newspapers and encourages you to make bets. See it for what it is.. The press is spinning this like a top. The formal statement made by Reed still stands. Nobody with any sanctioned voice has formally said anything that makes me think the MoPo is going. MoPo is planning for the new season and what he really wants is financial backing to take his team forward. The new board is in place, with their own plans, so let them move forward and only trust the reliable sources. The rest is speculative fiction. Whehn MoPo eventually speaks out, in whatever language, we will know the position. Until then this is a press and bookies fantasy designed to encourage people to spend money on papers and bets. Alicesdad
  • Score: 34

8:59am Wed 14 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Could you list his bad decisions for me please.
As NC has gone someone has to be on the end of the blame culture, RK isn't British so he will do for now........
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Could you list his bad decisions for me please.[/p][/quote]As NC has gone someone has to be on the end of the blame culture, RK isn't British so he will do for now........ OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 6

9:06am Wed 14 May 14

invictus says...

Velleity wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Genuine question; what have been his bad decisions so far? The only one I can think of is the statement about our finances being poor, as it's put some pressure on us in the market. Even that's pretty marginal - he might have wanted to keep it a little quieter but equally it's probably something that had to be released at some point. Other than that, what's your list?
How about what he hasn't said, like how ambitious the club are?
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Genuine question; what have been his bad decisions so far? The only one I can think of is the statement about our finances being poor, as it's put some pressure on us in the market. Even that's pretty marginal - he might have wanted to keep it a little quieter but equally it's probably something that had to be released at some point. Other than that, what's your list?[/p][/quote]How about what he hasn't said, like how ambitious the club are? invictus
  • Score: -2

9:08am Wed 14 May 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Chipster wrote:
According to the media the players gave Levy an ultimatum, either Sherwood went or they would all put in transfer requests!
Hopefully if true this will give MoPo food for thought about managing that shower of sh!t with a rattlesnake for a chairman!
If you ever encounter a rattlesnake and a split c0ndom,just don't fcuk with either of 'em.
[quote][p][bold]Chipster[/bold] wrote: According to the media the players gave Levy an ultimatum, either Sherwood went or they would all put in transfer requests! Hopefully if true this will give MoPo food for thought about managing that shower of sh!t with a rattlesnake for a chairman![/p][/quote]If you ever encounter a rattlesnake and a split c0ndom,just don't fcuk with either of 'em. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 11

9:08am Wed 14 May 14

JohnItaly says...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
Well MoPo certainly made sure we wouldn't qualify for the Europa League by fielding that understrength side in the FA Cup tie at Sunderland! So now Hull have qualified, by taking advantage of the most favourable cup draws in recent years, by reaching the FA Cup final. That could so easily have been us.

The DE have got this story about the £2M break clause from this morning's Telegraph. I don't know what to make of it, does it mean it is more likely or less likely to leave?
Perhaps we now know why he did not leave when Cortese resigned!
[quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: Well MoPo certainly made sure we wouldn't qualify for the Europa League by fielding that understrength side in the FA Cup tie at Sunderland! So now Hull have qualified, by taking advantage of the most favourable cup draws in recent years, by reaching the FA Cup final. That could so easily have been us. The DE have got this story about the £2M break clause from this morning's Telegraph. I don't know what to make of it, does it mean it is more likely or less likely to leave?[/p][/quote]Perhaps we now know why he did not leave when Cortese resigned! JohnItaly
  • Score: 7

9:13am Wed 14 May 14

J7junctionseven says...

I can't see any of this speculation being sorted out until we've all renewed our season tickets at the end of the month.
I think the deadline for renewals should be increased until the end of June or July so we know who we will be paying good money to support.
I thought Pochettino was meeting the board on Monday to discuss a new deal???
The club needs to make some big decisions quickly and then issue a statement of their intent for the new season or people will hold off renewing and buying new season tickets.

COYR FOADP
I can't see any of this speculation being sorted out until we've all renewed our season tickets at the end of the month. I think the deadline for renewals should be increased until the end of June or July so we know who we will be paying good money to support. I thought Pochettino was meeting the board on Monday to discuss a new deal??? The club needs to make some big decisions quickly and then issue a statement of their intent for the new season or people will hold off renewing and buying new season tickets. COYR FOADP J7junctionseven
  • Score: 5

9:18am Wed 14 May 14

Sally Hamilton Original says...

I blame Guly for all of this mess
I blame Guly for all of this mess Sally Hamilton Original
  • Score: 8

9:19am Wed 14 May 14

Foundry Lane School says...

Surely, Not if he WANTS to join Spurs, only if he DOES join Spurs will he have to pay £2m!!
Surely, Not if he WANTS to join Spurs, only if he DOES join Spurs will he have to pay £2m!! Foundry Lane School
  • Score: 3

9:20am Wed 14 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

george chivers wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Could you list his bad decisions for me please.
Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity.

Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think?
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Could you list his bad decisions for me please.[/p][/quote]Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity. Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 17

9:21am Wed 14 May 14

miltonarcher says...

Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.
Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC. miltonarcher
  • Score: 17

9:22am Wed 14 May 14

bathsaints says...

These stories are going to rumble on and on until the club or a player or Poch makes a definitive statement. I don't understand the silence but that doesn't mean it is all bad news. Realistically we know there will be some movement and unfortunatley us fans are not really able to stop this however it would be nice to see some positive encouraging stories in the the press about us, like possible incomings...heres a few that I think would do a job here for us: Ruddy or Marshall in goal, Caulker or Micah Richards at CB, Moses or Tom Ince in midfield (if Morgan left then Delph would be a good fit) and maybe a loan deal for a striker or if there is some money then someone like Bony....a few of those and the summer will be ok. Either way it has been a great season and fun to watch how far we've come. Whatever the next step we'll continue to support and enjoy the ups and downs...
These stories are going to rumble on and on until the club or a player or Poch makes a definitive statement. I don't understand the silence but that doesn't mean it is all bad news. Realistically we know there will be some movement and unfortunatley us fans are not really able to stop this however it would be nice to see some positive encouraging stories in the the press about us, like possible incomings...heres a few that I think would do a job here for us: Ruddy or Marshall in goal, Caulker or Micah Richards at CB, Moses or Tom Ince in midfield (if Morgan left then Delph would be a good fit) and maybe a loan deal for a striker or if there is some money then someone like Bony....a few of those and the summer will be ok. Either way it has been a great season and fun to watch how far we've come. Whatever the next step we'll continue to support and enjoy the ups and downs... bathsaints
  • Score: 12

9:23am Wed 14 May 14

Foundry Lane School says...

Surely Saints can't fine him £2m for just wanting to join Spurs!!!
Surely Saints can't fine him £2m for just wanting to join Spurs!!! Foundry Lane School
  • Score: -8

9:24am Wed 14 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

miltonarcher wrote:
Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.
Can you explain why the players rave about MoPo and are saying he will be one of the best managers in the world?
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.[/p][/quote]Can you explain why the players rave about MoPo and are saying he will be one of the best managers in the world? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

9:25am Wed 14 May 14

Puddletown Saint says...

I know I will get thumbs down for this but here goes. MoPo has done fantastic but with a fantastic train set. Who is to say if we got in a Laudraup, Houghton or MacKay we cannot progress even more. MoPo only seems to have a Plan A so surely the real test of a manger is to adapt if things are going wrong. Also, if the rumours have it, he wants out because the board will not fund him. Well, IMHO, the sign of a great manager is to extract more from the current squad. May be MoPo has reached HIS potential with Saints and is off whilst his stock is very high – and who can blame him.
I for one do want him to stay. The football is wonderful and the atmosphere is amazing. I would fear losing Lallana more than MoPo. Hold on it could be a bit of a ride. COYR.
I know I will get thumbs down for this but here goes. MoPo has done fantastic but with a fantastic train set. Who is to say if we got in a Laudraup, Houghton or MacKay we cannot progress even more. MoPo only seems to have a Plan A so surely the real test of a manger is to adapt if things are going wrong. Also, if the rumours have it, he wants out because the board will not fund him. Well, IMHO, the sign of a great manager is to extract more from the current squad. May be MoPo has reached HIS potential with Saints and is off whilst his stock is very high – and who can blame him. I for one do want him to stay. The football is wonderful and the atmosphere is amazing. I would fear losing Lallana more than MoPo. Hold on it could be a bit of a ride. COYR. Puddletown Saint
  • Score: 11

9:30am Wed 14 May 14

swesaint says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
I can't see any of this speculation being sorted out until we've all renewed our season tickets at the end of the month.
I think the deadline for renewals should be increased until the end of June or July so we know who we will be paying good money to support.
I thought Pochettino was meeting the board on Monday to discuss a new deal???
The club needs to make some big decisions quickly and then issue a statement of their intent for the new season or people will hold off renewing and buying new season tickets.

COYR FOADP
You are paying to watch the saints, that should be enough. If not then stay home.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: I can't see any of this speculation being sorted out until we've all renewed our season tickets at the end of the month. I think the deadline for renewals should be increased until the end of June or July so we know who we will be paying good money to support. I thought Pochettino was meeting the board on Monday to discuss a new deal??? The club needs to make some big decisions quickly and then issue a statement of their intent for the new season or people will hold off renewing and buying new season tickets. COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]You are paying to watch the saints, that should be enough. If not then stay home. swesaint
  • Score: 12

9:40am Wed 14 May 14

Jesus_02 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Could you list his bad decisions for me please.
Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity. Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think?
What has he got to do with the story of Christ's birth?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Could you list his bad decisions for me please.[/p][/quote]Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity. Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think?[/p][/quote]What has he got to do with the story of Christ's birth? Jesus_02
  • Score: 6

9:49am Wed 14 May 14

saintbobby says...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
Well MoPo certainly made sure we wouldn't qualify for the Europa League by fielding that understrength side in the FA Cup tie at Sunderland! So now Hull have qualified, by taking advantage of the most favourable cup draws in recent years, by reaching the FA Cup final. That could so easily have been us.

The DE have got this story about the £2M break clause from this morning's Telegraph. I don't know what to make of it, does it mean it is more likely or less likely to leave?
Seems a fair enough comment.

Weak team against Sunderland - YES. Daily Telegraph HAVE printed the £2million story - so why all these thumbs down? Don't understand.

I certainly cannot guess an answer to Crossley's question.

Roll on August - repeat I am fed up.
[quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: Well MoPo certainly made sure we wouldn't qualify for the Europa League by fielding that understrength side in the FA Cup tie at Sunderland! So now Hull have qualified, by taking advantage of the most favourable cup draws in recent years, by reaching the FA Cup final. That could so easily have been us. The DE have got this story about the £2M break clause from this morning's Telegraph. I don't know what to make of it, does it mean it is more likely or less likely to leave?[/p][/quote]Seems a fair enough comment. Weak team against Sunderland - YES. Daily Telegraph HAVE printed the £2million story - so why all these thumbs down? Don't understand. I certainly cannot guess an answer to Crossley's question. Roll on August - repeat I am fed up. saintbobby
  • Score: 6

9:56am Wed 14 May 14

Totton Ric says...

Saints could be one of the big guns next season ! Just about when Saints bond & have a decent manager/squad it's all about the poss of selling & MP moving on, why not offer better contracts & a end of season performance bonus for the team next season. Onwards & Upwards,COYR
Saints could be one of the big guns next season ! Just about when Saints bond & have a decent manager/squad it's all about the poss of selling & MP moving on, why not offer better contracts & a end of season performance bonus for the team next season. Onwards & Upwards,COYR Totton Ric
  • Score: 8

10:04am Wed 14 May 14

miltonarcher says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.
Can you explain why the players rave about MoPo and are saying he will be one of the best managers in the world?
No, can you?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.[/p][/quote]Can you explain why the players rave about MoPo and are saying he will be one of the best managers in the world?[/p][/quote]No, can you? miltonarcher
  • Score: 3

10:13am Wed 14 May 14

SouthbourneSaint says...

Jumping the gun a bit here. But, when Adkins left I said that we should not have treated someone with his loyalty to us so poorly. Well, it looks like what goes around comes around because Poch is off at the first opportunity he gets to go. Spurs will pay the £2 million to him so I don't see that as a stumbling block at all. If they really want him, they'll get him.

If Poch hasn't signed his new contract by the end of the week then he's quite clearly courting the Spurs move. Even if he doesn't end up going, that will leave a bitter taste.
Jumping the gun a bit here. But, when Adkins left I said that we should not have treated someone with his loyalty to us so poorly. Well, it looks like what goes around comes around because Poch is off at the first opportunity he gets to go. Spurs will pay the £2 million to him so I don't see that as a stumbling block at all. If they really want him, they'll get him. If Poch hasn't signed his new contract by the end of the week then he's quite clearly courting the Spurs move. Even if he doesn't end up going, that will leave a bitter taste. SouthbourneSaint
  • Score: 4

10:20am Wed 14 May 14

saint christopher says...

Alicesdad wrote:
Reality check. These stories are all smoke and mirrors, it sells newspapers and encourages you to make bets. See it for what it is..

The press is spinning this like a top. The formal statement made by Reed still stands. Nobody with any sanctioned voice has formally said anything that makes me think the MoPo is going. MoPo is planning for the new season and what he really wants is financial backing to take his team forward. The new board is in place, with their own plans, so let them move forward and only trust the reliable sources.

The rest is speculative fiction. Whehn MoPo eventually speaks out, in whatever language, we will know the position. Until then this is a press and bookies fantasy designed to encourage people to spend money on papers and bets.
There are only so many angles the press can come at this and I think we've just about covered them all. If we didn't all keep posting on here every time the DE makes their next meaningless comment we wouldn't keep getting these wind-ups.

Fact is we 're all from Barcelona and know nothing - whether about players going, players coming or Potch going. Club is almost certainly like a swan at the moment - all quiet and serene on the surface but a lot of mad paddling going on underneath.

Because of that I don't think anything will be officially said until everything has virtually been decided. We may not like it and many of us are visibly ageing with the stress of it all but its clear that with so many decisions being affected by other decisions that's the way the club are playing it.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: Reality check. These stories are all smoke and mirrors, it sells newspapers and encourages you to make bets. See it for what it is.. The press is spinning this like a top. The formal statement made by Reed still stands. Nobody with any sanctioned voice has formally said anything that makes me think the MoPo is going. MoPo is planning for the new season and what he really wants is financial backing to take his team forward. The new board is in place, with their own plans, so let them move forward and only trust the reliable sources. The rest is speculative fiction. Whehn MoPo eventually speaks out, in whatever language, we will know the position. Until then this is a press and bookies fantasy designed to encourage people to spend money on papers and bets.[/p][/quote]There are only so many angles the press can come at this and I think we've just about covered them all. If we didn't all keep posting on here every time the DE makes their next meaningless comment we wouldn't keep getting these wind-ups. Fact is we 're all from Barcelona and know nothing - whether about players going, players coming or Potch going. Club is almost certainly like a swan at the moment - all quiet and serene on the surface but a lot of mad paddling going on underneath. Because of that I don't think anything will be officially said until everything has virtually been decided. We may not like it and many of us are visibly ageing with the stress of it all but its clear that with so many decisions being affected by other decisions that's the way the club are playing it. saint christopher
  • Score: 7

10:22am Wed 14 May 14

derek james says...

miltonarcher wrote:
Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.
tim sherwood would be a more than able replacement for mopo
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.[/p][/quote]tim sherwood would be a more than able replacement for mopo derek james
  • Score: -14

10:27am Wed 14 May 14

notaclue says...

Just read that MoPo's new agent is also Gareth Bales agent and knows Daniel Levy extremely well.

hmmmmmmmm.....
Just read that MoPo's new agent is also Gareth Bales agent and knows Daniel Levy extremely well. hmmmmmmmm..... notaclue
  • Score: -3

10:42am Wed 14 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

derek james wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.
tim sherwood would be a more than able replacement for mopo
Lets go for Fat Sam, a season of hoofball might be the answer? Daft, well you lot started it..............
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.[/p][/quote]tim sherwood would be a more than able replacement for mopo[/p][/quote]Lets go for Fat Sam, a season of hoofball might be the answer? Daft, well you lot started it.............. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 5

10:45am Wed 14 May 14

Littleton-Saint says...

Mopo is an intelligent guy - he won't be moving to Spuds where the set-up is acrimonious from top down. Spuds is a club in overall decline with a past bigger than its future. Saints are a far more attractive challenge - a club that develops top young players and plays imaginiative skillful football.
Mopo is an intelligent guy - he won't be moving to Spuds where the set-up is acrimonious from top down. Spuds is a club in overall decline with a past bigger than its future. Saints are a far more attractive challenge - a club that develops top young players and plays imaginiative skillful football. Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 18

10:45am Wed 14 May 14

Confucious says...

It now seems perfectly clear that the uncertainty will certainly remain decidedly inescapable so long as this hazy unpredictable indecision continues to show the undoubted doubtfulness is definitely assured to make unpredictability predictable and questionability unquestionable. At least he club could tell us when the indefinite irresolution will definitely be resolved.
It now seems perfectly clear that the uncertainty will certainly remain decidedly inescapable so long as this hazy unpredictable indecision continues to show the undoubted doubtfulness is definitely assured to make unpredictability predictable and questionability unquestionable. At least he club could tell us when the indefinite irresolution will definitely be resolved. Confucious
  • Score: 14

10:50am Wed 14 May 14

Santa Retfordia says...

This is getting ridiculous now. I think we should all try thinking about something that isn't football and come back when there's some concrete news. Everyone's gone a little bit mental.

What did everyone think of Eurovision? I thought Italy absolutely smashed it and were very unfairly overlooked.
This is getting ridiculous now. I think we should all try thinking about something that isn't football and come back when there's some concrete news. Everyone's gone a little bit mental. What did everyone think of Eurovision? I thought Italy absolutely smashed it and were very unfairly overlooked. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 6

10:54am Wed 14 May 14

Jesus_02 says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Could you list his bad decisions for me please.
Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity. Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think?
What has he got to do with the story of Christ's birth?
I take it the thumbs down was from Seedhouse for pointing out his spell check had changed his typo of naivety to "nativity"!
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Could you list his bad decisions for me please.[/p][/quote]Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity. Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think?[/p][/quote]What has he got to do with the story of Christ's birth?[/p][/quote]I take it the thumbs down was from Seedhouse for pointing out his spell check had changed his typo of naivety to "nativity"! Jesus_02
  • Score: 6

11:02am Wed 14 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
This is getting ridiculous now. I think we should all try thinking about something that isn't football and come back when there's some concrete news. Everyone's gone a little bit mental.

What did everyone think of Eurovision? I thought Italy absolutely smashed it and were very unfairly overlooked.
Was too busy watching the Voice (French version) where Kylie popped over and looked way better in a dress than that Austrian Eurovision bloke.

Mind you, she'd have looked way better with a beard, too.
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: This is getting ridiculous now. I think we should all try thinking about something that isn't football and come back when there's some concrete news. Everyone's gone a little bit mental. What did everyone think of Eurovision? I thought Italy absolutely smashed it and were very unfairly overlooked.[/p][/quote]Was too busy watching the Voice (French version) where Kylie popped over and looked way better in a dress than that Austrian Eurovision bloke. Mind you, she'd have looked way better with a beard, too. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 3

11:06am Wed 14 May 14

Beer Monster says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
This is getting ridiculous now. I think we should all try thinking about something that isn't football and come back when there's some concrete news. Everyone's gone a little bit mental.

What did everyone think of Eurovision? I thought Italy absolutely smashed it and were very unfairly overlooked.
First time that I've watched Eurovision sober for a number of years, which was a rather bizarre experience for me - I liked the Icelandic entry, fun with a bouncy yet meaningful song.

It's Southampton Beer Festival in a couple of weeks - anyone attending? They've moved the free entry session to the thursday evening, which is a pain because the last ferry back to Hythe is at 9pm
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: This is getting ridiculous now. I think we should all try thinking about something that isn't football and come back when there's some concrete news. Everyone's gone a little bit mental. What did everyone think of Eurovision? I thought Italy absolutely smashed it and were very unfairly overlooked.[/p][/quote]First time that I've watched Eurovision sober for a number of years, which was a rather bizarre experience for me - I liked the Icelandic entry, fun with a bouncy yet meaningful song. It's Southampton Beer Festival in a couple of weeks - anyone attending? They've moved the free entry session to the thursday evening, which is a pain because the last ferry back to Hythe is at 9pm Beer Monster
  • Score: 2

11:09am Wed 14 May 14

notaclue says...

notaclue wrote:
Just read that MoPo's new agent is also Gareth Bales agent and knows Daniel Levy extremely well.

hmmmmmmmm.....
If you don't believe me then Google Jonathan Barnett and Pochettino, Barnett negotiated with Levy for over 100days for the Bale deal.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: Just read that MoPo's new agent is also Gareth Bales agent and knows Daniel Levy extremely well. hmmmmmmmm.....[/p][/quote]If you don't believe me then Google Jonathan Barnett and Pochettino, Barnett negotiated with Levy for over 100days for the Bale deal. notaclue
  • Score: 1

11:09am Wed 14 May 14

george chivers says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Could you list his bad decisions for me please.
Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity.

Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think?
Perhaps not the best thing to say. But I think it was a political statement to help to explain NC not working within budget and perhaps to indicate why he went at KL's instigation.
I don't think we are in this furore because of that statement, the bids for Al, LS and MOPO would have come anyway and if they go it won't be at knock down prices. It will be at market prices or premium prices. So from that perspective I don't think what he said makes any difference.
Yes that was a clever move by Cortese, but we all know if MOPO does go his new club will somehow pay that for him. By the way your tone seems to suggest I may be anti NC. I'm not. I fully acknowledge what he has done for our club. But obviously KL wasn't comfortable with him for some reason and that is why he has been replaced.

You should be having a pop at her, not RK, the current state of anxiety the supporters and fans are experiencing is not down to RK.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Could you list his bad decisions for me please.[/p][/quote]Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity. Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think?[/p][/quote]Perhaps not the best thing to say. But I think it was a political statement to help to explain NC not working within budget and perhaps to indicate why he went at KL's instigation. I don't think we are in this furore because of that statement, the bids for Al, LS and MOPO would have come anyway and if they go it won't be at knock down prices. It will be at market prices or premium prices. So from that perspective I don't think what he said makes any difference. Yes that was a clever move by Cortese, but we all know if MOPO does go his new club will somehow pay that for him. By the way your tone seems to suggest I may be anti NC. I'm not. I fully acknowledge what he has done for our club. But obviously KL wasn't comfortable with him for some reason and that is why he has been replaced. You should be having a pop at her, not RK, the current state of anxiety the supporters and fans are experiencing is not down to RK. george chivers
  • Score: 5

11:24am Wed 14 May 14

Golden_Salamander says...

george chivers wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Could you list his bad decisions for me please.
Here are 3 to start with
1/ Should have got a FIRM price for Dani before releasing the statement about his fight with Jose.
The board should have said something about "He and his 8 month pregnant partner want to return to Italy etc..." got a FIRM price .... and then let the story of a fight come out. At the end of the day the boards mistake will COST the club something like £8m.

2/ Should have said something like "no big transfers the summer" when the accounts came out. The message they gave indicted to the media that there was a "fire sale". They tired to correct it 2 weeks late with the "we don't NEED to sell" but by then the media were not listening.

3/ Should have been talking to Jack Cork about a new contract months ago.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Could you list his bad decisions for me please.[/p][/quote]Here are 3 to start with 1/ Should have got a FIRM price for Dani before releasing the statement about his fight with Jose. The board should have said something about "He and his 8 month pregnant partner want to return to Italy etc..." got a FIRM price .... and then let the story of a fight come out. At the end of the day the boards mistake will COST the club something like £8m. 2/ Should have said something like "no big transfers the summer" when the accounts came out. The message they gave indicted to the media that there was a "fire sale". They tired to correct it 2 weeks late with the "we don't NEED to sell" but by then the media were not listening. 3/ Should have been talking to Jack Cork about a new contract months ago. Golden_Salamander
  • Score: 4

11:25am Wed 14 May 14

Golden_Salamander says...

Velleity wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Genuine question; what have been his bad decisions so far? The only one I can think of is the statement about our finances being poor, as it's put some pressure on us in the market. Even that's pretty marginal - he might have wanted to keep it a little quieter but equally it's probably something that had to be released at some point. Other than that, what's your list?
1/ Should have got a FIRM price for Dani before releasing the statement about his fight with Jose.
The board should have said something about "He and his 8 month pregnant partner want to return to Italy etc..." got a FIRM price .... and then let the story of a fight come out. At the end of the day the boards mistake will COST the club something like £8m.

2/ Should have said something like "no big transfers the summer" when the accounts came out. The message they gave indicted to the media that there was a "fire sale". They tired to correct it 2 weeks late with the "we don't NEED to sell" but by then the media were not listening.

3/ Should have been talking to Jack Cork about a new contract months ago.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Genuine question; what have been his bad decisions so far? The only one I can think of is the statement about our finances being poor, as it's put some pressure on us in the market. Even that's pretty marginal - he might have wanted to keep it a little quieter but equally it's probably something that had to be released at some point. Other than that, what's your list?[/p][/quote]1/ Should have got a FIRM price for Dani before releasing the statement about his fight with Jose. The board should have said something about "He and his 8 month pregnant partner want to return to Italy etc..." got a FIRM price .... and then let the story of a fight come out. At the end of the day the boards mistake will COST the club something like £8m. 2/ Should have said something like "no big transfers the summer" when the accounts came out. The message they gave indicted to the media that there was a "fire sale". They tired to correct it 2 weeks late with the "we don't NEED to sell" but by then the media were not listening. 3/ Should have been talking to Jack Cork about a new contract months ago. Golden_Salamander
  • Score: 6

11:31am Wed 14 May 14

Costa Baz says...

notaclue wrote:
notaclue wrote: Just read that MoPo's new agent is also Gareth Bales agent and knows Daniel Levy extremely well. hmmmmmmmm.....
If you don't believe me then Google Jonathan Barnett and Pochettino, Barnett negotiated with Levy for over 100days for the Bale deal.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing, though?

At the end of the day, Levy lost one of the best players around, a match winner.
Not sure that would make him and Barnett best friends.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: Just read that MoPo's new agent is also Gareth Bales agent and knows Daniel Levy extremely well. hmmmmmmmm.....[/p][/quote]If you don't believe me then Google Jonathan Barnett and Pochettino, Barnett negotiated with Levy for over 100days for the Bale deal.[/p][/quote]Is that a good thing or a bad thing, though? At the end of the day, Levy lost one of the best players around, a match winner. Not sure that would make him and Barnett best friends. Costa Baz
  • Score: 2

11:38am Wed 14 May 14

Alicesdad says...

Confucious wrote:
It now seems perfectly clear that the uncertainty will certainly remain decidedly inescapable so long as this hazy unpredictable indecision continues to show the undoubted doubtfulness is definitely assured to make unpredictability predictable and questionability unquestionable. At least he club could tell us when the indefinite irresolution will definitely be resolved.
The answer is 42
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: It now seems perfectly clear that the uncertainty will certainly remain decidedly inescapable so long as this hazy unpredictable indecision continues to show the undoubted doubtfulness is definitely assured to make unpredictability predictable and questionability unquestionable. At least he club could tell us when the indefinite irresolution will definitely be resolved.[/p][/quote]The answer is 42 Alicesdad
  • Score: 2

11:41am Wed 14 May 14

SaintJD says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
That Alan Ball reference is absolute rubbish - he practically ran out of the door as far as I can remember and, frankly, we were better off without him.

As for the Ralph comment I think you are judging a guy without any knowledge of what's going on behind the scenes - give him a chance and don't resort to the obvious cheap shot with the ice hockey reference.

And, let's face it, commuting to London is far from a deal breaker.

The more I look at it though, you have to think de Boer is a bit of a no brainer for Spurs anyway. He suits them. I've already heard plenty of Spurs fans and pundits questioning Mo Po's worthiness for their beloved club and frankly that says it all. Until they lose the false superiority complex they aren't ready for a manager as good as Poch and they certainly wouldn't give him the time and patience needed to work his magic.
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]That Alan Ball reference is absolute rubbish - he practically ran out of the door as far as I can remember and, frankly, we were better off without him. As for the Ralph comment I think you are judging a guy without any knowledge of what's going on behind the scenes - give him a chance and don't resort to the obvious cheap shot with the ice hockey reference. And, let's face it, commuting to London is far from a deal breaker. The more I look at it though, you have to think de Boer is a bit of a no brainer for Spurs anyway. He suits them. I've already heard plenty of Spurs fans and pundits questioning Mo Po's worthiness for their beloved club and frankly that says it all. Until they lose the false superiority complex they aren't ready for a manager as good as Poch and they certainly wouldn't give him the time and patience needed to work his magic. SaintJD
  • Score: 2

11:44am Wed 14 May 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
derek james wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.
tim sherwood would be a more than able replacement for mopo
Lets go for Fat Sam, a season of hoofball might be the answer? Daft, well you lot started it..............
I certainly hope Mopo doesn't leave,but why would the appointment of Sherwood be so daft?
He seems to be in the same mould as Nigel Pearson,and both of them might make able replacements if required.
They both appear to be able to engender a winning mentality in their teams,and succeed as well;the only real attributes that are required by any manager,and certainly all that would be required by the fans.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.[/p][/quote]tim sherwood would be a more than able replacement for mopo[/p][/quote]Lets go for Fat Sam, a season of hoofball might be the answer? Daft, well you lot started it..............[/p][/quote]I certainly hope Mopo doesn't leave,but why would the appointment of Sherwood be so daft? He seems to be in the same mould as Nigel Pearson,and both of them might make able replacements if required. They both appear to be able to engender a winning mentality in their teams,and succeed as well;the only real attributes that are required by any manager,and certainly all that would be required by the fans. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -7

11:55am Wed 14 May 14

SaintJD says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Genuine question; what have been his bad decisions so far? The only one I can think of is the statement about our finances being poor, as it's put some pressure on us in the market. Even that's pretty marginal - he might have wanted to keep it a little quieter but equally it's probably something that had to be released at some point. Other than that, what's your list?
1/ Should have got a FIRM price for Dani before releasing the statement about his fight with Jose.
The board should have said something about "He and his 8 month pregnant partner want to return to Italy etc..." got a FIRM price .... and then let the story of a fight come out. At the end of the day the boards mistake will COST the club something like £8m.

2/ Should have said something like "no big transfers the summer" when the accounts came out. The message they gave indicted to the media that there was a "fire sale". They tired to correct it 2 weeks late with the "we don't NEED to sell" but by then the media were not listening.

3/ Should have been talking to Jack Cork about a new contract months ago.
On point 1, how can the leak of a training ground fight be the responsibility of the board? They took decisive action and, frankly, showed the players, manager, fans and everyone that they were willing to potentially lose money in order to secure the right culture and ethics at our club. That's surely a good sign - they aren't only thinking of finance, they are thinking of the good of the club.

On point 2, what does it matter if the media aren't listening anyway? That has absolutely no bearing on whether the players are for sale or not. Krueger knows the truth, MP probably knows the truth, so what's the problem? We were always going to get interest from other clubs regardless of how loud we shouted 'not for sale at any price', better to be honest and say that every player has their price IF the manager sanctions it and it helps us build a better squad. Finally, respect the fact that the new board are at least saying SOMETHING. Better surely than the lack of communication we used to have.

Point three: top player and, if we show we're heading in the right direction we won't have any problem signing him up. I think he's really enjoyed being back in the side and I can't see any options open to Jack would be considered better than what he has at Saints (not necessarily the same for Luke and Adam).
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Genuine question; what have been his bad decisions so far? The only one I can think of is the statement about our finances being poor, as it's put some pressure on us in the market. Even that's pretty marginal - he might have wanted to keep it a little quieter but equally it's probably something that had to be released at some point. Other than that, what's your list?[/p][/quote]1/ Should have got a FIRM price for Dani before releasing the statement about his fight with Jose. The board should have said something about "He and his 8 month pregnant partner want to return to Italy etc..." got a FIRM price .... and then let the story of a fight come out. At the end of the day the boards mistake will COST the club something like £8m. 2/ Should have said something like "no big transfers the summer" when the accounts came out. The message they gave indicted to the media that there was a "fire sale". They tired to correct it 2 weeks late with the "we don't NEED to sell" but by then the media were not listening. 3/ Should have been talking to Jack Cork about a new contract months ago.[/p][/quote]On point 1, how can the leak of a training ground fight be the responsibility of the board? They took decisive action and, frankly, showed the players, manager, fans and everyone that they were willing to potentially lose money in order to secure the right culture and ethics at our club. That's surely a good sign - they aren't only thinking of finance, they are thinking of the good of the club. On point 2, what does it matter if the media aren't listening anyway? That has absolutely no bearing on whether the players are for sale or not. Krueger knows the truth, MP probably knows the truth, so what's the problem? We were always going to get interest from other clubs regardless of how loud we shouted 'not for sale at any price', better to be honest and say that every player has their price IF the manager sanctions it and it helps us build a better squad. Finally, respect the fact that the new board are at least saying SOMETHING. Better surely than the lack of communication we used to have. Point three: top player and, if we show we're heading in the right direction we won't have any problem signing him up. I think he's really enjoyed being back in the side and I can't see any options open to Jack would be considered better than what he has at Saints (not necessarily the same for Luke and Adam). SaintJD
  • Score: 1

11:56am Wed 14 May 14

BracknellSaint says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
derek james wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.
tim sherwood would be a more than able replacement for mopo
Lets go for Fat Sam, a season of hoofball might be the answer? Daft, well you lot started it..............
I certainly hope Mopo doesn't leave,but why would the appointment of Sherwood be so daft?
He seems to be in the same mould as Nigel Pearson,and both of them might make able replacements if required.
They both appear to be able to engender a winning mentality in their teams,and succeed as well;the only real attributes that are required by any manager,and certainly all that would be required by the fans.
God, please, PLEASE no!
Sherwood is an absolute muppet- out of his depth as a manager, with a weirdly high opinion of himself as both a player( he was no more than a midfield 'wrecker' ) and a coach.
I wouldn't want that kind of man anywhere near our squad, which has by all accounts, a brilliant, family like vibe.
MoPo to stay is obviously choices 1-100 in my opinion.
If for some reason he does end up at Spurs( which would be a weird choice in my opinion-Arsenal, maybe, or big Spanish club, but Spurs? Really??) or somewhere else, then we need a replacement with a similar philosophy of playing the right way, blooding youth and building a 'team'
I can think nothing worse for example, than being a West Ham fan-ok, safe in mid table, but what absolute FILTH they have to sit through under Fat Sam..I am praying we keep MoPo, I really am...
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.[/p][/quote]tim sherwood would be a more than able replacement for mopo[/p][/quote]Lets go for Fat Sam, a season of hoofball might be the answer? Daft, well you lot started it..............[/p][/quote]I certainly hope Mopo doesn't leave,but why would the appointment of Sherwood be so daft? He seems to be in the same mould as Nigel Pearson,and both of them might make able replacements if required. They both appear to be able to engender a winning mentality in their teams,and succeed as well;the only real attributes that are required by any manager,and certainly all that would be required by the fans.[/p][/quote]God, please, PLEASE no! Sherwood is an absolute muppet- out of his depth as a manager, with a weirdly high opinion of himself as both a player( he was no more than a midfield 'wrecker' ) and a coach. I wouldn't want that kind of man anywhere near our squad, which has by all accounts, a brilliant, family like vibe. MoPo to stay is obviously choices 1-100 in my opinion. If for some reason he does end up at Spurs( which would be a weird choice in my opinion-Arsenal, maybe, or big Spanish club, but Spurs? Really??) or somewhere else, then we need a replacement with a similar philosophy of playing the right way, blooding youth and building a 'team' I can think nothing worse for example, than being a West Ham fan-ok, safe in mid table, but what absolute FILTH they have to sit through under Fat Sam..I am praying we keep MoPo, I really am... BracknellSaint
  • Score: 8

11:57am Wed 14 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Genuine question; what have been his bad decisions so far? The only one I can think of is the statement about our finances being poor, as it's put some pressure on us in the market. Even that's pretty marginal - he might have wanted to keep it a little quieter but equally it's probably something that had to be released at some point. Other than that, what's your list?
1/ Should have got a FIRM price for Dani before releasing the statement about his fight with Jose.
The board should have said something about "He and his 8 month pregnant partner want to return to Italy etc..." got a FIRM price .... and then let the story of a fight come out. At the end of the day the boards mistake will COST the club something like £8m.

2/ Should have said something like "no big transfers the summer" when the accounts came out. The message they gave indicted to the media that there was a "fire sale". They tired to correct it 2 weeks late with the "we don't NEED to sell" but by then the media were not listening.

3/ Should have been talking to Jack Cork about a new contract months ago.
1, ralph wasn't in charge when Osvaldo spat he dummy! cant really blame him for something he was never involved with.

2. along with the `difficult situation`, which the press would have pointed out either way, there was a firm `no players needed to be sold` statement. you cant pick out one part and ignore the other.

3. jack cork has a year left to run on his contract, there is no rush to sign him to a longer deal just yet. get the manager sorted, either way, and then talk to jack. If MP is going you don't know if a new manager would want jack, don't know why he wouldn't, but why have a player on a 5yr deal on big money if he might not be wanted?

4. do you think ice hockey is any different to football with the constant changing of managers? 10 prem managers lost their jobs last season with another 2 going after it ended 3 if you include giggs. how many ice hockey managers were sacked in their last season? out of 30 teams in the NHL 6 managers/head coaches had been in place for over 5 years, how many prem managers have been in the same job that long? 1 wenger and his contract is up and he might be on his way!
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Genuine question; what have been his bad decisions so far? The only one I can think of is the statement about our finances being poor, as it's put some pressure on us in the market. Even that's pretty marginal - he might have wanted to keep it a little quieter but equally it's probably something that had to be released at some point. Other than that, what's your list?[/p][/quote]1/ Should have got a FIRM price for Dani before releasing the statement about his fight with Jose. The board should have said something about "He and his 8 month pregnant partner want to return to Italy etc..." got a FIRM price .... and then let the story of a fight come out. At the end of the day the boards mistake will COST the club something like £8m. 2/ Should have said something like "no big transfers the summer" when the accounts came out. The message they gave indicted to the media that there was a "fire sale". They tired to correct it 2 weeks late with the "we don't NEED to sell" but by then the media were not listening. 3/ Should have been talking to Jack Cork about a new contract months ago.[/p][/quote]1, ralph wasn't in charge when Osvaldo spat he dummy! cant really blame him for something he was never involved with. 2. along with the `difficult situation`, which the press would have pointed out either way, there was a firm `no players needed to be sold` statement. you cant pick out one part and ignore the other. 3. jack cork has a year left to run on his contract, there is no rush to sign him to a longer deal just yet. get the manager sorted, either way, and then talk to jack. If MP is going you don't know if a new manager would want jack, don't know why he wouldn't, but why have a player on a 5yr deal on big money if he might not be wanted? 4. do you think ice hockey is any different to football with the constant changing of managers? 10 prem managers lost their jobs last season with another 2 going after it ended 3 if you include giggs. how many ice hockey managers were sacked in their last season? out of 30 teams in the NHL 6 managers/head coaches had been in place for over 5 years, how many prem managers have been in the same job that long? 1 wenger and his contract is up and he might be on his way! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 4

12:01pm Wed 14 May 14

SaintJD says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
derek james wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.
tim sherwood would be a more than able replacement for mopo
Lets go for Fat Sam, a season of hoofball might be the answer? Daft, well you lot started it..............
I certainly hope Mopo doesn't leave,but why would the appointment of Sherwood be so daft?
He seems to be in the same mould as Nigel Pearson,and both of them might make able replacements if required.
They both appear to be able to engender a winning mentality in their teams,and succeed as well;the only real attributes that are required by any manager,and certainly all that would be required by the fans.
He's done great at Spurs, but then they knew he wasn't going to be around for long. Too volatile for me though and that lack of control has to rub off on the players during tough runs. That volatility was reflected in results as well - a couple of great runs when they were up with a nasty dip when the mood swung. He's been really entertaining and refreshing though so I hope he gets a decent next job somewhere and I think he probably will.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.[/p][/quote]tim sherwood would be a more than able replacement for mopo[/p][/quote]Lets go for Fat Sam, a season of hoofball might be the answer? Daft, well you lot started it..............[/p][/quote]I certainly hope Mopo doesn't leave,but why would the appointment of Sherwood be so daft? He seems to be in the same mould as Nigel Pearson,and both of them might make able replacements if required. They both appear to be able to engender a winning mentality in their teams,and succeed as well;the only real attributes that are required by any manager,and certainly all that would be required by the fans.[/p][/quote]He's done great at Spurs, but then they knew he wasn't going to be around for long. Too volatile for me though and that lack of control has to rub off on the players during tough runs. That volatility was reflected in results as well - a couple of great runs when they were up with a nasty dip when the mood swung. He's been really entertaining and refreshing though so I hope he gets a decent next job somewhere and I think he probably will. SaintJD
  • Score: 3

12:02pm Wed 14 May 14

Hobson82 says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
London isn't far mate. If wants to go I'm sure he won't be put off by the commute. Harry Redknapp and Kevin Bond do it.
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]London isn't far mate. If wants to go I'm sure he won't be put off by the commute. Harry Redknapp and Kevin Bond do it. Hobson82
  • Score: 1

12:03pm Wed 14 May 14

Stnana says...

Costa Baz wrote:
notaclue wrote:
notaclue wrote: Just read that MoPo's new agent is also Gareth Bales agent and knows Daniel Levy extremely well. hmmmmmmmm.....
If you don't believe me then Google Jonathan Barnett and Pochettino, Barnett negotiated with Levy for over 100days for the Bale deal.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing, though?

At the end of the day, Levy lost one of the best players around, a match winner.
Not sure that would make him and Barnett best friends.
Isn't Barnett the agent who got banned for tapping up ?
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: Just read that MoPo's new agent is also Gareth Bales agent and knows Daniel Levy extremely well. hmmmmmmmm.....[/p][/quote]If you don't believe me then Google Jonathan Barnett and Pochettino, Barnett negotiated with Levy for over 100days for the Bale deal.[/p][/quote]Is that a good thing or a bad thing, though? At the end of the day, Levy lost one of the best players around, a match winner. Not sure that would make him and Barnett best friends.[/p][/quote]Isn't Barnett the agent who got banned for tapping up ? Stnana
  • Score: 3

12:07pm Wed 14 May 14

Costa Baz says...

Not heard any rumours, but Thomas Tuchel, has just resigned from his managers job, at Mainz.
Mainz finished 7th, in the Bundesliga, and have qualified for the Europa League.
Supposed to be good tactically, high on team ethics and is innovative on the training ground, creating different shape areas, to prevent the use of the long ball.

Using the German connection, would adding zwei to zwei equal vier or fünf?
Not heard any rumours, but Thomas Tuchel, has just resigned from his managers job, at Mainz. Mainz finished 7th, in the Bundesliga, and have qualified for the Europa League. Supposed to be good tactically, high on team ethics and is innovative on the training ground, creating different shape areas, to prevent the use of the long ball. Using the German connection, would adding zwei to zwei equal vier or fünf? Costa Baz
  • Score: 3

12:08pm Wed 14 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Could you list his bad decisions for me please.
Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity. Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think?
What has he got to do with the story of Christ's birth?
I take it the thumbs down was from Seedhouse for pointing out his spell check had changed his typo of naivety to "nativity"!
Not me mush, just one of those things!

Talking about Jesus, I've just been told that Jay Rod had a double inspection in London yesterday and everyone pleased with the outcome.
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Could you list his bad decisions for me please.[/p][/quote]Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity. Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think?[/p][/quote]What has he got to do with the story of Christ's birth?[/p][/quote]I take it the thumbs down was from Seedhouse for pointing out his spell check had changed his typo of naivety to "nativity"![/p][/quote]Not me mush, just one of those things! Talking about Jesus, I've just been told that Jay Rod had a double inspection in London yesterday and everyone pleased with the outcome. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

12:15pm Wed 14 May 14

boilerman says...

SaintJD wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
derek james wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.
tim sherwood would be a more than able replacement for mopo
Lets go for Fat Sam, a season of hoofball might be the answer? Daft, well you lot started it..............
I certainly hope Mopo doesn't leave,but why would the appointment of Sherwood be so daft?
He seems to be in the same mould as Nigel Pearson,and both of them might make able replacements if required.
They both appear to be able to engender a winning mentality in their teams,and succeed as well;the only real attributes that are required by any manager,and certainly all that would be required by the fans.
He's done great at Spurs, but then they knew he wasn't going to be around for long. Too volatile for me though and that lack of control has to rub off on the players during tough runs. That volatility was reflected in results as well - a couple of great runs when they were up with a nasty dip when the mood swung. He's been really entertaining and refreshing though so I hope he gets a decent next job somewhere and I think he probably will.
Just how is he in the same mold as Nigel Pearson?
Pearson is always calm and thoughtful , where Sherwood shoots from the hip.
I think that the way he behaved for a few games and especially against Benfica showed a bit of naivity, but he has probably learned from that and does deserve another go somewhere else.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.[/p][/quote]tim sherwood would be a more than able replacement for mopo[/p][/quote]Lets go for Fat Sam, a season of hoofball might be the answer? Daft, well you lot started it..............[/p][/quote]I certainly hope Mopo doesn't leave,but why would the appointment of Sherwood be so daft? He seems to be in the same mould as Nigel Pearson,and both of them might make able replacements if required. They both appear to be able to engender a winning mentality in their teams,and succeed as well;the only real attributes that are required by any manager,and certainly all that would be required by the fans.[/p][/quote]He's done great at Spurs, but then they knew he wasn't going to be around for long. Too volatile for me though and that lack of control has to rub off on the players during tough runs. That volatility was reflected in results as well - a couple of great runs when they were up with a nasty dip when the mood swung. He's been really entertaining and refreshing though so I hope he gets a decent next job somewhere and I think he probably will.[/p][/quote]Just how is he in the same mold as Nigel Pearson? Pearson is always calm and thoughtful , where Sherwood shoots from the hip. I think that the way he behaved for a few games and especially against Benfica showed a bit of naivity, but he has probably learned from that and does deserve another go somewhere else. boilerman
  • Score: 3

12:16pm Wed 14 May 14

Wembley76 says...

Let's face it there is no loyalty in football on either side...and like 99.9% of the population, most managers and players will put their families and self interest first....wouldn't you? It will rest on whether saints have more ambition than Spurs, which is unlikely...so we should expect to lose MPo, Shaw and Lallana, wish theme the best and thank them for what they have delivered...and move on, hoping we can re-invest the proceeds and strengthen the squad in vital areas...Maybe I have been a fan too long, but 8th in the Prem for me is a great result and it is highly unlikely we could ever match the resources of the top 4 or even Man U and Spurs..so 7th or 8th is fantastic
Let's face it there is no loyalty in football on either side...and like 99.9% of the population, most managers and players will put their families and self interest first....wouldn't you? It will rest on whether saints have more ambition than Spurs, which is unlikely...so we should expect to lose MPo, Shaw and Lallana, wish theme the best and thank them for what they have delivered...and move on, hoping we can re-invest the proceeds and strengthen the squad in vital areas...Maybe I have been a fan too long, but 8th in the Prem for me is a great result and it is highly unlikely we could ever match the resources of the top 4 or even Man U and Spurs..so 7th or 8th is fantastic Wembley76
  • Score: 2

12:18pm Wed 14 May 14

jls217 says...

Confucious wrote:
It now seems perfectly clear that the uncertainty will certainly remain decidedly inescapable so long as this hazy unpredictable indecision continues to show the undoubted doubtfulness is definitely assured to make unpredictability predictable and questionability unquestionable. At least he club could tell us when the indefinite irresolution will definitely be resolved.
It's amazing how you can bring clarity to such complicated situations - thanks
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: It now seems perfectly clear that the uncertainty will certainly remain decidedly inescapable so long as this hazy unpredictable indecision continues to show the undoubted doubtfulness is definitely assured to make unpredictability predictable and questionability unquestionable. At least he club could tell us when the indefinite irresolution will definitely be resolved.[/p][/quote]It's amazing how you can bring clarity to such complicated situations - thanks jls217
  • Score: 4

12:26pm Wed 14 May 14

jls217 says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Not heard any rumours, but Thomas Tuchel, has just resigned from his managers job, at Mainz.
Mainz finished 7th, in the Bundesliga, and have qualified for the Europa League.
Supposed to be good tactically, high on team ethics and is innovative on the training ground, creating different shape areas, to prevent the use of the long ball.

Using the German connection, would adding zwei to zwei equal vier or fünf?
Whilst we're on the German theme. Uwe Rosler would jump at the chance to come here if we're talking out talent for the future.

There are two players avail on frees in the bundesliga who ordinarily would fetch 8-10 mill. Hunt and Diouf.

Let's hope funf mate because I really do not want to see Poochy go - there is a job unfinished here at Saints and he seems a perfect fit to do it.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: Not heard any rumours, but Thomas Tuchel, has just resigned from his managers job, at Mainz. Mainz finished 7th, in the Bundesliga, and have qualified for the Europa League. Supposed to be good tactically, high on team ethics and is innovative on the training ground, creating different shape areas, to prevent the use of the long ball. Using the German connection, would adding zwei to zwei equal vier or fünf?[/p][/quote]Whilst we're on the German theme. Uwe Rosler would jump at the chance to come here if we're talking out talent for the future. There are two players avail on frees in the bundesliga who ordinarily would fetch 8-10 mill. Hunt and Diouf. Let's hope funf mate because I really do not want to see Poochy go - there is a job unfinished here at Saints and he seems a perfect fit to do it. jls217
  • Score: 1

12:34pm Wed 14 May 14

Jan28th1984 says...

bathsaints wrote:
These stories are going to rumble on and on until the club or a player or Poch makes a definitive statement. I don't understand the silence but that doesn't mean it is all bad news. Realistically we know there will be some movement and unfortunatley us fans are not really able to stop this however it would be nice to see some positive encouraging stories in the the press about us, like possible incomings...heres a few that I think would do a job here for us: Ruddy or Marshall in goal, Caulker or Micah Richards at CB, Moses or Tom Ince in midfield (if Morgan left then Delph would be a good fit) and maybe a loan deal for a striker or if there is some money then someone like Bony....a few of those and the summer will be ok. Either way it has been a great season and fun to watch how far we've come. Whatever the next step we'll continue to support and enjoy the ups and downs...
Yea well said. Is there any more anywhere on Rafa Silva joining us from Sporting Braga? There is a whisper he is on Poch's wanted list.......
[quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: These stories are going to rumble on and on until the club or a player or Poch makes a definitive statement. I don't understand the silence but that doesn't mean it is all bad news. Realistically we know there will be some movement and unfortunatley us fans are not really able to stop this however it would be nice to see some positive encouraging stories in the the press about us, like possible incomings...heres a few that I think would do a job here for us: Ruddy or Marshall in goal, Caulker or Micah Richards at CB, Moses or Tom Ince in midfield (if Morgan left then Delph would be a good fit) and maybe a loan deal for a striker or if there is some money then someone like Bony....a few of those and the summer will be ok. Either way it has been a great season and fun to watch how far we've come. Whatever the next step we'll continue to support and enjoy the ups and downs...[/p][/quote]Yea well said. Is there any more anywhere on Rafa Silva joining us from Sporting Braga? There is a whisper he is on Poch's wanted list....... Jan28th1984
  • Score: 0

12:42pm Wed 14 May 14

jls217 says...

I would like to ask Poochy what it is about Spuds that might appear attractive enough to swing a deal.

Their huge transfer budget? Nope - wasted all the money that came in from Bale and some of those signed may well be moved on for half the money.

Their youth players? Nope - they don't have as many as we do and if Poochy wants one of theirs we have the money to go out and poach him. Kane might suit red and white.

Their fans? Nope. As was said about Bonnie Prince Charlie in the song,
"Better loved ye cannae be".

The support from his chairman and board? Nope. He would need a stab vest in London and we're not talking about going to and from work daily either. He could leave it in his office and put it on daily. The Spuds Ninja backstabbers would be coming out of the woodwork on a daily basis.

The pleasant wok location? Booger me have you ever been to North London? Makes Pimpey look Virginia Water.

Club facilities? Nope by the time ours is finished it'll be amongst the best in the land.

Club pies? Well here's where they get the vote. If it was Matty being hunted this might be the deciding factor.

I've exhausted my list feel free to add to it if you wish. To my mind it's a no-brainer Saints wins hands down. Let's hope Poochy sees it that way when the time comes.
I would like to ask Poochy what it is about Spuds that might appear attractive enough to swing a deal. Their huge transfer budget? Nope - wasted all the money that came in from Bale and some of those signed may well be moved on for half the money. Their youth players? Nope - they don't have as many as we do and if Poochy wants one of theirs we have the money to go out and poach him. Kane might suit red and white. Their fans? Nope. As was said about Bonnie Prince Charlie in the song, "Better loved ye cannae be". The support from his chairman and board? Nope. He would need a stab vest in London and we're not talking about going to and from work daily either. He could leave it in his office and put it on daily. The Spuds Ninja backstabbers would be coming out of the woodwork on a daily basis. The pleasant wok location? Booger me have you ever been to North London? Makes Pimpey look Virginia Water. Club facilities? Nope by the time ours is finished it'll be amongst the best in the land. Club pies? Well here's where they get the vote. If it was Matty being hunted this might be the deciding factor. I've exhausted my list feel free to add to it if you wish. To my mind it's a no-brainer Saints wins hands down. Let's hope Poochy sees it that way when the time comes. jls217
  • Score: 10

12:44pm Wed 14 May 14

SaintJD says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
bathsaints wrote:
These stories are going to rumble on and on until the club or a player or Poch makes a definitive statement. I don't understand the silence but that doesn't mean it is all bad news. Realistically we know there will be some movement and unfortunatley us fans are not really able to stop this however it would be nice to see some positive encouraging stories in the the press about us, like possible incomings...heres a few that I think would do a job here for us: Ruddy or Marshall in goal, Caulker or Micah Richards at CB, Moses or Tom Ince in midfield (if Morgan left then Delph would be a good fit) and maybe a loan deal for a striker or if there is some money then someone like Bony....a few of those and the summer will be ok. Either way it has been a great season and fun to watch how far we've come. Whatever the next step we'll continue to support and enjoy the ups and downs...
Yea well said. Is there any more anywhere on Rafa Silva joining us from Sporting Braga? There is a whisper he is on Poch's wanted list.......
Celtic keeper would be good - seems to be genuinely commanding. I wouldn't argue with him anyway. Another young England player as well - sends out a good message, especially if we lose one over the summer.
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: These stories are going to rumble on and on until the club or a player or Poch makes a definitive statement. I don't understand the silence but that doesn't mean it is all bad news. Realistically we know there will be some movement and unfortunatley us fans are not really able to stop this however it would be nice to see some positive encouraging stories in the the press about us, like possible incomings...heres a few that I think would do a job here for us: Ruddy or Marshall in goal, Caulker or Micah Richards at CB, Moses or Tom Ince in midfield (if Morgan left then Delph would be a good fit) and maybe a loan deal for a striker or if there is some money then someone like Bony....a few of those and the summer will be ok. Either way it has been a great season and fun to watch how far we've come. Whatever the next step we'll continue to support and enjoy the ups and downs...[/p][/quote]Yea well said. Is there any more anywhere on Rafa Silva joining us from Sporting Braga? There is a whisper he is on Poch's wanted list.......[/p][/quote]Celtic keeper would be good - seems to be genuinely commanding. I wouldn't argue with him anyway. Another young England player as well - sends out a good message, especially if we lose one over the summer. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

12:57pm Wed 14 May 14

oldsaintsfan says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
derek james wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.
tim sherwood would be a more than able replacement for mopo
Lets go for Fat Sam, a season of hoofball might be the answer? Daft, well you lot started it..............
I certainly hope Mopo doesn't leave,but why would the appointment of Sherwood be so daft?
He seems to be in the same mould as Nigel Pearson,and both of them might make able replacements if required.
They both appear to be able to engender a winning mentality in their teams,and succeed as well;the only real attributes that are required by any manager,and certainly all that would be required by the fans.
God, please, PLEASE no!
Sherwood is an absolute muppet- out of his depth as a manager, with a weirdly high opinion of himself as both a player( he was no more than a midfield 'wrecker' ) and a coach.
I wouldn't want that kind of man anywhere near our squad, which has by all accounts, a brilliant, family like vibe.
MoPo to stay is obviously choices 1-100 in my opinion.
If for some reason he does end up at Spurs( which would be a weird choice in my opinion-Arsenal, maybe, or big Spanish club, but Spurs? Really??) or somewhere else, then we need a replacement with a similar philosophy of playing the right way, blooding youth and building a 'team'
I can think nothing worse for example, than being a West Ham fan-ok, safe in mid table, but what absolute FILTH they have to sit through under Fat Sam..I am praying we keep MoPo, I really am...
Totally agree.....
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.[/p][/quote]tim sherwood would be a more than able replacement for mopo[/p][/quote]Lets go for Fat Sam, a season of hoofball might be the answer? Daft, well you lot started it..............[/p][/quote]I certainly hope Mopo doesn't leave,but why would the appointment of Sherwood be so daft? He seems to be in the same mould as Nigel Pearson,and both of them might make able replacements if required. They both appear to be able to engender a winning mentality in their teams,and succeed as well;the only real attributes that are required by any manager,and certainly all that would be required by the fans.[/p][/quote]God, please, PLEASE no! Sherwood is an absolute muppet- out of his depth as a manager, with a weirdly high opinion of himself as both a player( he was no more than a midfield 'wrecker' ) and a coach. I wouldn't want that kind of man anywhere near our squad, which has by all accounts, a brilliant, family like vibe. MoPo to stay is obviously choices 1-100 in my opinion. If for some reason he does end up at Spurs( which would be a weird choice in my opinion-Arsenal, maybe, or big Spanish club, but Spurs? Really??) or somewhere else, then we need a replacement with a similar philosophy of playing the right way, blooding youth and building a 'team' I can think nothing worse for example, than being a West Ham fan-ok, safe in mid table, but what absolute FILTH they have to sit through under Fat Sam..I am praying we keep MoPo, I really am...[/p][/quote]Totally agree..... oldsaintsfan
  • Score: 0

1:11pm Wed 14 May 14

milton road says...

If Poch does leave us and I really hope he does not, then we shoulf go for Moyes, he is used to handling a club our size. He was a good if not great manager for Everton. He has not become a bad manager over night. he was lumped with a squad that was a season too old.
If Poch does leave us and I really hope he does not, then we shoulf go for Moyes, he is used to handling a club our size. He was a good if not great manager for Everton. He has not become a bad manager over night. he was lumped with a squad that was a season too old. milton road
  • Score: -5

1:43pm Wed 14 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Could you list his bad decisions for me please.
Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity. Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think?
What has he got to do with the story of Christ's birth?
I take it the thumbs down was from Seedhouse for pointing out his spell check had changed his typo of naivety to "nativity"!
Not me mush, just one of those things!

Talking about Jesus, I've just been told that Jay Rod had a double inspection in London yesterday and everyone pleased with the outcome.
What? At Spurs?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Could you list his bad decisions for me please.[/p][/quote]Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity. Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think?[/p][/quote]What has he got to do with the story of Christ's birth?[/p][/quote]I take it the thumbs down was from Seedhouse for pointing out his spell check had changed his typo of naivety to "nativity"![/p][/quote]Not me mush, just one of those things! Talking about Jesus, I've just been told that Jay Rod had a double inspection in London yesterday and everyone pleased with the outcome.[/p][/quote]What? At Spurs? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

1:53pm Wed 14 May 14

just kidding says...

jls217 wrote:
I would like to ask Poochy what it is about Spuds that might appear attractive enough to swing a deal.

Their huge transfer budget? Nope - wasted all the money that came in from Bale and some of those signed may well be moved on for half the money.

Their youth players? Nope - they don't have as many as we do and if Poochy wants one of theirs we have the money to go out and poach him. Kane might suit red and white.

Their fans? Nope. As was said about Bonnie Prince Charlie in the song,
"Better loved ye cannae be".

The support from his chairman and board? Nope. He would need a stab vest in London and we're not talking about going to and from work daily either. He could leave it in his office and put it on daily. The Spuds Ninja backstabbers would be coming out of the woodwork on a daily basis.

The pleasant wok location? Booger me have you ever been to North London? Makes Pimpey look Virginia Water.

Club facilities? Nope by the time ours is finished it'll be amongst the best in the land.

Club pies? Well here's where they get the vote. If it was Matty being hunted this might be the deciding factor.

I've exhausted my list feel free to add to it if you wish. To my mind it's a no-brainer Saints wins hands down. Let's hope Poochy sees it that way when the time comes.
Love it, Nice one
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: I would like to ask Poochy what it is about Spuds that might appear attractive enough to swing a deal. Their huge transfer budget? Nope - wasted all the money that came in from Bale and some of those signed may well be moved on for half the money. Their youth players? Nope - they don't have as many as we do and if Poochy wants one of theirs we have the money to go out and poach him. Kane might suit red and white. Their fans? Nope. As was said about Bonnie Prince Charlie in the song, "Better loved ye cannae be". The support from his chairman and board? Nope. He would need a stab vest in London and we're not talking about going to and from work daily either. He could leave it in his office and put it on daily. The Spuds Ninja backstabbers would be coming out of the woodwork on a daily basis. The pleasant wok location? Booger me have you ever been to North London? Makes Pimpey look Virginia Water. Club facilities? Nope by the time ours is finished it'll be amongst the best in the land. Club pies? Well here's where they get the vote. If it was Matty being hunted this might be the deciding factor. I've exhausted my list feel free to add to it if you wish. To my mind it's a no-brainer Saints wins hands down. Let's hope Poochy sees it that way when the time comes.[/p][/quote]Love it, Nice one just kidding
  • Score: 0

2:02pm Wed 14 May 14

bigfella777 says...

35% win rate, not good enough for Spurs, he wouldn't last a season up there
35% win rate, not good enough for Spurs, he wouldn't last a season up there bigfella777
  • Score: 1

2:13pm Wed 14 May 14

Velleity says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Could you list his bad decisions for me please.
Here are 3 to start with
1/ Should have got a FIRM price for Dani before releasing the statement about his fight with Jose.
The board should have said something about "He and his 8 month pregnant partner want to return to Italy etc..." got a FIRM price .... and then let the story of a fight come out. At the end of the day the boards mistake will COST the club something like £8m.

2/ Should have said something like "no big transfers the summer" when the accounts came out. The message they gave indicted to the media that there was a "fire sale". They tired to correct it 2 weeks late with the "we don't NEED to sell" but by then the media were not listening.

3/ Should have been talking to Jack Cork about a new contract months ago.
1. Dani suspended for head butt 23rd Jan. Shipped out on 31st January. Ralph Krueger apointed chairman 12th March, I can see why you would blame him.

2. What? He was perfectly clear about it and SPECIFICALLY (in those words) said there would be no fire sale.

3. He's had three months. No-one else up for criticism for not doing it a year ago, or ten months ago, or six months ago?
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Could you list his bad decisions for me please.[/p][/quote]Here are 3 to start with 1/ Should have got a FIRM price for Dani before releasing the statement about his fight with Jose. The board should have said something about "He and his 8 month pregnant partner want to return to Italy etc..." got a FIRM price .... and then let the story of a fight come out. At the end of the day the boards mistake will COST the club something like £8m. 2/ Should have said something like "no big transfers the summer" when the accounts came out. The message they gave indicted to the media that there was a "fire sale". They tired to correct it 2 weeks late with the "we don't NEED to sell" but by then the media were not listening. 3/ Should have been talking to Jack Cork about a new contract months ago.[/p][/quote]1. Dani suspended for head butt 23rd Jan. Shipped out on 31st January. Ralph Krueger apointed chairman 12th March, I can see why you would blame him. 2. What? He was perfectly clear about it and SPECIFICALLY (in those words) said there would be no fire sale. 3. He's had three months. No-one else up for criticism for not doing it a year ago, or ten months ago, or six months ago? Velleity
  • Score: 6

2:15pm Wed 14 May 14

Velleity says...

Sorry on point 2 - I love the fact that the media going into overdrive about a "fire sale" would have been prevented by RK saying there wouldn't be one two weeks earlier. After all, the media took Les Reed's statment at face value, didn't they?
Sorry on point 2 - I love the fact that the media going into overdrive about a "fire sale" would have been prevented by RK saying there wouldn't be one two weeks earlier. After all, the media took Les Reed's statment at face value, didn't they? Velleity
  • Score: 4

2:25pm Wed 14 May 14

Costa Baz says...

Looking on the bright side.
If MP leaves, as may be indicated by the other Echo story about big bucks being bet on him going to Spurs, the board can fend off all transfer bids pending us getting a new manager in.
Looking on the bright side. If MP leaves, as may be indicated by the other Echo story about big bucks being bet on him going to Spurs, the board can fend off all transfer bids pending us getting a new manager in. Costa Baz
  • Score: 1

2:27pm Wed 14 May 14

abbiscuits says...

Beer Monster wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
This is getting ridiculous now. I think we should all try thinking about something that isn't football and come back when there's some concrete news. Everyone's gone a little bit mental.

What did everyone think of Eurovision? I thought Italy absolutely smashed it and were very unfairly overlooked.
First time that I've watched Eurovision sober for a number of years, which was a rather bizarre experience for me - I liked the Icelandic entry, fun with a bouncy yet meaningful song.

It's Southampton Beer Festival in a couple of weeks - anyone attending? They've moved the free entry session to the thursday evening, which is a pain because the last ferry back to Hythe is at 9pm
I enjoyed the Swizz entry for a couple of reasons
1) Think it would be nice for Katrina for them to win
2) the lead singer reminded me of Morgan.
However, the Austrian winner looks like Ricky on a good day ..so not too unhappy.
Oops supposed to be NOT talking about football...sorry can't help it : )
[quote][p][bold]Beer Monster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: This is getting ridiculous now. I think we should all try thinking about something that isn't football and come back when there's some concrete news. Everyone's gone a little bit mental. What did everyone think of Eurovision? I thought Italy absolutely smashed it and were very unfairly overlooked.[/p][/quote]First time that I've watched Eurovision sober for a number of years, which was a rather bizarre experience for me - I liked the Icelandic entry, fun with a bouncy yet meaningful song. It's Southampton Beer Festival in a couple of weeks - anyone attending? They've moved the free entry session to the thursday evening, which is a pain because the last ferry back to Hythe is at 9pm[/p][/quote]I enjoyed the Swizz entry for a couple of reasons 1) Think it would be nice for Katrina for them to win 2) the lead singer reminded me of Morgan. However, the Austrian winner looks like Ricky on a good day ..so not too unhappy. Oops supposed to be NOT talking about football...sorry can't help it : ) abbiscuits
  • Score: 1

2:34pm Wed 14 May 14

warrens 76 says...

All it took was a statement that said Southampton had all the money they needed for re-investment adding to the team etc from RK when he was appointed….

The statement that the board had inherited an 'awkward financial situation' has to go down as the most damaging comment in recent years, poor Les tried to put out the fire but once the media smelt blood and that 'titbit' was out I believe our glorious team was doomed….

...say what you like about NC but something so idiotic would not have left his lips.
All it took was a statement that said Southampton had all the money they needed for re-investment adding to the team etc from RK when he was appointed…. The statement that the board had inherited an 'awkward financial situation' has to go down as the most damaging comment in recent years, poor Les tried to put out the fire but once the media smelt blood and that 'titbit' was out I believe our glorious team was doomed…. ...say what you like about NC but something so idiotic would not have left his lips. warrens 76
  • Score: 3

2:53pm Wed 14 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

warrens 76 wrote:
All it took was a statement that said Southampton had all the money they needed for re-investment adding to the team etc from RK when he was appointed….

The statement that the board had inherited an 'awkward financial situation' has to go down as the most damaging comment in recent years, poor Les tried to put out the fire but once the media smelt blood and that 'titbit' was out I believe our glorious team was doomed….

...say what you like about NC but something so idiotic would not have left his lips.
So true, Warrens. In fact, very little ever DID leave NC's lips, yet many crucified him for not opening up to the media.

I've a feeling the lack of news from the Board right now is a direct reaction to that statement by Ralph. Either Katharina has slapped a news embargo on him so that he doesn't put his foot in it again or the whole board are sick of the media lifting what they choose and ignoring the rest. Either way, Ralph's first flirt with saying something this side of the pond wasn't his best moment.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: All it took was a statement that said Southampton had all the money they needed for re-investment adding to the team etc from RK when he was appointed…. The statement that the board had inherited an 'awkward financial situation' has to go down as the most damaging comment in recent years, poor Les tried to put out the fire but once the media smelt blood and that 'titbit' was out I believe our glorious team was doomed…. ...say what you like about NC but something so idiotic would not have left his lips.[/p][/quote]So true, Warrens. In fact, very little ever DID leave NC's lips, yet many crucified him for not opening up to the media. I've a feeling the lack of news from the Board right now is a direct reaction to that statement by Ralph. Either Katharina has slapped a news embargo on him so that he doesn't put his foot in it again or the whole board are sick of the media lifting what they choose and ignoring the rest. Either way, Ralph's first flirt with saying something this side of the pond wasn't his best moment. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 3

2:55pm Wed 14 May 14

SaintSteve76 says...

Poch has to stay if we are to progress. He's proved he is a fantastic coach and the players love him. The exceptional football we have been playing is down to him. Why is it taking so long for him to sign a new contract?
Poch has to stay if we are to progress. He's proved he is a fantastic coach and the players love him. The exceptional football we have been playing is down to him. Why is it taking so long for him to sign a new contract? SaintSteve76
  • Score: 1

2:57pm Wed 14 May 14

Brizzler says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Could you list his bad decisions for me please.
Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity.

Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think?
Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity. Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think?


Or was it in fact clever in that he has made it clear to other clubs that our finances are tight, so we won't be going in for silly money deals?

The break-out clause is nothing really to get excited about, this is pretty standard in most contracts these days and I'd be more surprised if it wasn't included.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Could you list his bad decisions for me please.[/p][/quote]Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity. Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think?[/p][/quote][quote]Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity. Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think?[/quote] Or was it in fact clever in that he has made it clear to other clubs that our finances are tight, so we won't be going in for silly money deals? The break-out clause is nothing really to get excited about, this is pretty standard in most contracts these days and I'd be more surprised if it wasn't included. Brizzler
  • Score: 1

2:58pm Wed 14 May 14

Velleity says...

warrens 76 wrote:
All it took was a statement that said Southampton had all the money they needed for re-investment adding to the team etc from RK when he was appointed….

The statement that the board had inherited an 'awkward financial situation' has to go down as the most damaging comment in recent years, poor Les tried to put out the fire but once the media smelt blood and that 'titbit' was out I believe our glorious team was doomed….

...say what you like about NC but something so idiotic would not have left his lips.
"Doomed"? "DOOMED"? Really?

Also, are you seriously suggesting that there wouldn't have been bids for Adam and Luke (both talked about all season) this summer even if RK had told everyone we had £1Bn in the bank?

You may be right but I have a serious suggestion. You should all switch off your PCs and have a nice cup of tea. No amount of worrying over it is going to help, so you might as well just ignore it.

In fact, I'm going to take my own advice. Cheerio until the week before the start of the new season. Have a lovely but worrying summer, all.

(And Seed, I reserve the right to wish anyone well who's in danger of death from an operation without sanction).
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: All it took was a statement that said Southampton had all the money they needed for re-investment adding to the team etc from RK when he was appointed…. The statement that the board had inherited an 'awkward financial situation' has to go down as the most damaging comment in recent years, poor Les tried to put out the fire but once the media smelt blood and that 'titbit' was out I believe our glorious team was doomed…. ...say what you like about NC but something so idiotic would not have left his lips.[/p][/quote]"Doomed"? "DOOMED"? Really? Also, are you seriously suggesting that there wouldn't have been bids for Adam and Luke (both talked about all season) this summer even if RK had told everyone we had £1Bn in the bank? You may be right but I have a serious suggestion. You should all switch off your PCs and have a nice cup of tea. No amount of worrying over it is going to help, so you might as well just ignore it. In fact, I'm going to take my own advice. Cheerio until the week before the start of the new season. Have a lovely but worrying summer, all. (And Seed, I reserve the right to wish anyone well who's in danger of death from an operation without sanction). Velleity
  • Score: 6

3:01pm Wed 14 May 14

J7junctionseven says...

swesaint wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
I can't see any of this speculation being sorted out until we've all renewed our season tickets at the end of the month.
I think the deadline for renewals should be increased until the end of June or July so we know who we will be paying good money to support.
I thought Pochettino was meeting the board on Monday to discuss a new deal???
The club needs to make some big decisions quickly and then issue a statement of their intent for the new season or people will hold off renewing and buying new season tickets.

COYR FOADP
You are paying to watch the saints, that should be enough. If not then stay home.
Like I've done most of my life home and away.....ssshhhhhh.
[quote][p][bold]swesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: I can't see any of this speculation being sorted out until we've all renewed our season tickets at the end of the month. I think the deadline for renewals should be increased until the end of June or July so we know who we will be paying good money to support. I thought Pochettino was meeting the board on Monday to discuss a new deal??? The club needs to make some big decisions quickly and then issue a statement of their intent for the new season or people will hold off renewing and buying new season tickets. COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]You are paying to watch the saints, that should be enough. If not then stay home.[/p][/quote]Like I've done most of my life home and away.....ssshhhhhh. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 2

3:04pm Wed 14 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

SSN boasting they have update news on Lallana, turns out that they have just discovered the Cherry sell on extension clause!
SSN boasting they have update news on Lallana, turns out that they have just discovered the Cherry sell on extension clause! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

3:07pm Wed 14 May 14

ItchenBridger says...

Just seen a chap at Southampton Central getting off a train from London.

Reminded me of David Moyes. Did any taxi drivers take him on a short

journey?
Just seen a chap at Southampton Central getting off a train from London. Reminded me of David Moyes. Did any taxi drivers take him on a short journey? ItchenBridger
  • Score: -3

3:12pm Wed 14 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

ItchenBridger wrote:
Just seen a chap at Southampton Central getting off a train from London.

Reminded me of David Moyes. Did any taxi drivers take him on a short

journey?
Perhaps we are recruiting a new batch of programme sellers?
[quote][p][bold]ItchenBridger[/bold] wrote: Just seen a chap at Southampton Central getting off a train from London. Reminded me of David Moyes. Did any taxi drivers take him on a short journey?[/p][/quote]Perhaps we are recruiting a new batch of programme sellers? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

3:31pm Wed 14 May 14

Ontario Saint says...

Well Poch has done an amazing job for Saints but it seems the Club are not willing to spend the money to go to the next level. It seems several of the players are sought by other clubs and if the worst happens then the next season will not be as exciting as we had hoped..

Unfortunately loyalty doesn't mean what it once meant and I think Poch is making a big mistake going to spurs if it happens. Levy is a ruthless owner and Spurs are not a big 4 club . They have a reputation of luring our Managers away from Saints such as Hoddle , Richards& Bale.

Levy is not a patient person and Poch will not find it easy thereand he will miss Saints the fans,the players ...too bad he seems to have decided based on the bookie odds of his going.

Hopefully if it happens and we lose a number of our players we can rebuild and bring some prominent players to the Club and continue to play the type of Football known as the Southampton way
Well Poch has done an amazing job for Saints but it seems the Club are not willing to spend the money to go to the next level. It seems several of the players are sought by other clubs and if the worst happens then the next season will not be as exciting as we had hoped.. Unfortunately loyalty doesn't mean what it once meant and I think Poch is making a big mistake going to spurs if it happens. Levy is a ruthless owner and Spurs are not a big 4 club . They have a reputation of luring our Managers away from Saints such as Hoddle , Richards& Bale. Levy is not a patient person and Poch will not find it easy thereand he will miss Saints the fans,the players ...too bad he seems to have decided based on the bookie odds of his going. Hopefully if it happens and we lose a number of our players we can rebuild and bring some prominent players to the Club and continue to play the type of Football known as the Southampton way Ontario Saint
  • Score: 0

3:49pm Wed 14 May 14

jls217 says...

Ontario Saint wrote:
Well Poch has done an amazing job for Saints but it seems the Club are not willing to spend the money to go to the next level. It seems several of the players are sought by other clubs and if the worst happens then the next season will not be as exciting as we had hoped..

Unfortunately loyalty doesn't mean what it once meant and I think Poch is making a big mistake going to spurs if it happens. Levy is a ruthless owner and Spurs are not a big 4 club . They have a reputation of luring our Managers away from Saints such as Hoddle , Richards& Bale.

Levy is not a patient person and Poch will not find it easy thereand he will miss Saints the fans,the players ...too bad he seems to have decided based on the bookie odds of his going.

Hopefully if it happens and we lose a number of our players we can rebuild and bring some prominent players to the Club and continue to play the type of Football known as the Southampton way
And just how do you know the club is not willing to spend the money to go to the next level, did Katarina call you and run her inner thoughts past you prior to telling the Daily Wail the next five year plan?

Personally I don't think she has but don't let that ruin a slightly silly and totally inaccurate whine.
[quote][p][bold]Ontario Saint[/bold] wrote: Well Poch has done an amazing job for Saints but it seems the Club are not willing to spend the money to go to the next level. It seems several of the players are sought by other clubs and if the worst happens then the next season will not be as exciting as we had hoped.. Unfortunately loyalty doesn't mean what it once meant and I think Poch is making a big mistake going to spurs if it happens. Levy is a ruthless owner and Spurs are not a big 4 club . They have a reputation of luring our Managers away from Saints such as Hoddle , Richards& Bale. Levy is not a patient person and Poch will not find it easy thereand he will miss Saints the fans,the players ...too bad he seems to have decided based on the bookie odds of his going. Hopefully if it happens and we lose a number of our players we can rebuild and bring some prominent players to the Club and continue to play the type of Football known as the Southampton way[/p][/quote]And just how do you know the club is not willing to spend the money to go to the next level, did Katarina call you and run her inner thoughts past you prior to telling the Daily Wail the next five year plan? Personally I don't think she has but don't let that ruin a slightly silly and totally inaccurate whine. jls217
  • Score: 3

3:55pm Wed 14 May 14

jls217 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ItchenBridger wrote:
Just seen a chap at Southampton Central getting off a train from London.

Reminded me of David Moyes. Did any taxi drivers take him on a short

journey?
Perhaps we are recruiting a new batch of programme sellers?
I saw a bloke getting out of a car at St. Mary's. Reminded me of Maurico Pochetino. Anybody see him walking around. He might be shortlisted as our next manager.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ItchenBridger[/bold] wrote: Just seen a chap at Southampton Central getting off a train from London. Reminded me of David Moyes. Did any taxi drivers take him on a short journey?[/p][/quote]Perhaps we are recruiting a new batch of programme sellers?[/p][/quote]I saw a bloke getting out of a car at St. Mary's. Reminded me of Maurico Pochetino. Anybody see him walking around. He might be shortlisted as our next manager. jls217
  • Score: 4

3:57pm Wed 14 May 14

jls217 says...

Just watching a film clip on Sky news of Moyes playing golf in a competition in Spain so let's kill off the David Moyes getting of a train story before someone tops themselves in a fit of depression. HE'S IN SPAIN, NOW GET DOWN OFF THE BRIDGE!
Just watching a film clip on Sky news of Moyes playing golf in a competition in Spain so let's kill off the David Moyes getting of a train story before someone tops themselves in a fit of depression. HE'S IN SPAIN, NOW GET DOWN OFF THE BRIDGE! jls217
  • Score: 4

3:57pm Wed 14 May 14

Egomaniac says...

Whether we like it or not, I think we have to be realistic and accept the fact that it is unlikely MP will be at Saints next season. Likewise I believe Lallana and Shaw will also be at other clubs come August.

I am guessing that our Club owners are unable or unwilling to invest any further, and thus our 8th position is the limit of the ambition. If the Club had been willing to up the stakes and therefore the investment, then MP would have accepted the new contract by now. Spurs and Levy want big things and seem prepared to pay for it. I wouldn't blame MP for stepping up to a club with ambition - and money!!

As for our players, well, if you were Shaw would you baulk at going to MU for a vastly increased salary. OK, they have been an average club this season, but I think that is only a blip. Also, if you were Lallana, would you turn down a progressive club like Liverpool with Champions League football? No of course not, and I don't blame them either.

All our players have served us well, especially Lallana and Shaw. If Saints can't offer them hope of bigger things, then of course they will go where they can more than double their salaries, play at the highest level and be in with the big time. It's a no-brainer really!

I would be sad to see them go - if that is the case, but I would wish them well in their respective futures - they deserve it.

Whatever the out come I have always been, am now, and always will be a Saints supporter - wherever we finish up!
Whether we like it or not, I think we have to be realistic and accept the fact that it is unlikely MP will be at Saints next season. Likewise I believe Lallana and Shaw will also be at other clubs come August. I am guessing that our Club owners are unable or unwilling to invest any further, and thus our 8th position is the limit of the ambition. If the Club had been willing to up the stakes and therefore the investment, then MP would have accepted the new contract by now. Spurs and Levy want big things and seem prepared to pay for it. I wouldn't blame MP for stepping up to a club with ambition - and money!! As for our players, well, if you were Shaw would you baulk at going to MU for a vastly increased salary. OK, they have been an average club this season, but I think that is only a blip. Also, if you were Lallana, would you turn down a progressive club like Liverpool with Champions League football? No of course not, and I don't blame them either. All our players have served us well, especially Lallana and Shaw. If Saints can't offer them hope of bigger things, then of course they will go where they can more than double their salaries, play at the highest level and be in with the big time. It's a no-brainer really! I would be sad to see them go - if that is the case, but I would wish them well in their respective futures - they deserve it. Whatever the out come I have always been, am now, and always will be a Saints supporter - wherever we finish up! Egomaniac
  • Score: 3

4:04pm Wed 14 May 14

jls217 says...

Egomaniac wrote:
Whether we like it or not, I think we have to be realistic and accept the fact that it is unlikely MP will be at Saints next season. Likewise I believe Lallana and Shaw will also be at other clubs come August.

I am guessing that our Club owners are unable or unwilling to invest any further, and thus our 8th position is the limit of the ambition. If the Club had been willing to up the stakes and therefore the investment, then MP would have accepted the new contract by now. Spurs and Levy want big things and seem prepared to pay for it. I wouldn't blame MP for stepping up to a club with ambition - and money!!

As for our players, well, if you were Shaw would you baulk at going to MU for a vastly increased salary. OK, they have been an average club this season, but I think that is only a blip. Also, if you were Lallana, would you turn down a progressive club like Liverpool with Champions League football? No of course not, and I don't blame them either.

All our players have served us well, especially Lallana and Shaw. If Saints can't offer them hope of bigger things, then of course they will go where they can more than double their salaries, play at the highest level and be in with the big time. It's a no-brainer really!

I would be sad to see them go - if that is the case, but I would wish them well in their respective futures - they deserve it.

Whatever the out come I have always been, am now, and always will be a Saints supporter - wherever we finish up!
On second thoughts. Get back up on the bridge and let me film the jump.
[quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: Whether we like it or not, I think we have to be realistic and accept the fact that it is unlikely MP will be at Saints next season. Likewise I believe Lallana and Shaw will also be at other clubs come August. I am guessing that our Club owners are unable or unwilling to invest any further, and thus our 8th position is the limit of the ambition. If the Club had been willing to up the stakes and therefore the investment, then MP would have accepted the new contract by now. Spurs and Levy want big things and seem prepared to pay for it. I wouldn't blame MP for stepping up to a club with ambition - and money!! As for our players, well, if you were Shaw would you baulk at going to MU for a vastly increased salary. OK, they have been an average club this season, but I think that is only a blip. Also, if you were Lallana, would you turn down a progressive club like Liverpool with Champions League football? No of course not, and I don't blame them either. All our players have served us well, especially Lallana and Shaw. If Saints can't offer them hope of bigger things, then of course they will go where they can more than double their salaries, play at the highest level and be in with the big time. It's a no-brainer really! I would be sad to see them go - if that is the case, but I would wish them well in their respective futures - they deserve it. Whatever the out come I have always been, am now, and always will be a Saints supporter - wherever we finish up![/p][/quote]On second thoughts. Get back up on the bridge and let me film the jump. jls217
  • Score: 5

4:13pm Wed 14 May 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Message to MoPo your job is safer here than at Spurs. Keep our squad together, add 4 quality players and Saints have as good a chance of beating Spuds to Champions League next season, they are only in the Europa league.
Message to Luke stay another season or to before you decide to go, you may find that Saints get the Champions League before Manure do.
Message to MoPo your job is safer here than at Spurs. Keep our squad together, add 4 quality players and Saints have as good a chance of beating Spuds to Champions League next season, they are only in the Europa league. Message to Luke stay another season or to before you decide to go, you may find that Saints get the Champions League before Manure do. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 1

4:15pm Wed 14 May 14

Costa Baz says...

So many people, with mind reading skills, claiming that the board will not give MP the financial backing he is after.
This may be the case. It may not.
Should MP leave, I for one will reserve judgement until after I see what expenditure the incoming manager makes, and from where the money is generated.
Many thought we would fall apart, when Pardew was sacked. We improved.
Many thought we would fall apart, when Adkins was sacked. We improved.
Was the choice of new manager, on each occasion, solely Cortese's, or did he take advice from Les Reed? Anybody know for sure?

Those missing Cortese, suddenly remember him as a chatty guy, who was forever in the press, when in reality he gave the fans nothing more than scraps of information, as and when it suited him to do so.

Someone on another forum posed an interesting comment, asking "Had Cortese been allowed to continue spending, without restraint, would he have become our equivalent of Peter Risdale?"
Where are Leeds now?

Whatever comes from this, sustainability is not a dirty word.
Even Cortese, in the early days, stated that the club must be run as a self sustaining business.
Maybe he forgot that, when running up £30m costs for redeveloping the training ground?
So many people, with mind reading skills, claiming that the board will not give MP the financial backing he is after. This may be the case. It may not. Should MP leave, I for one will reserve judgement until after I see what expenditure the incoming manager makes, and from where the money is generated. Many thought we would fall apart, when Pardew was sacked. We improved. Many thought we would fall apart, when Adkins was sacked. We improved. Was the choice of new manager, on each occasion, solely Cortese's, or did he take advice from Les Reed? Anybody know for sure? Those missing Cortese, suddenly remember him as a chatty guy, who was forever in the press, when in reality he gave the fans nothing more than scraps of information, as and when it suited him to do so. Someone on another forum posed an interesting comment, asking "Had Cortese been allowed to continue spending, without restraint, would he have become our equivalent of Peter Risdale?" Where are Leeds now? Whatever comes from this, sustainability is not a dirty word. Even Cortese, in the early days, stated that the club must be run as a self sustaining business. Maybe he forgot that, when running up £30m costs for redeveloping the training ground? Costa Baz
  • Score: 5

4:15pm Wed 14 May 14

george chivers says...

ItchenBridger wrote:
Just seen a chap at Southampton Central getting off a train from London.

Reminded me of David Moyes. Did any taxi drivers take him on a short

journey?
There's a bloke in our chip shop who looks like Kirstie McColl.
[quote][p][bold]ItchenBridger[/bold] wrote: Just seen a chap at Southampton Central getting off a train from London. Reminded me of David Moyes. Did any taxi drivers take him on a short journey?[/p][/quote]There's a bloke in our chip shop who looks like Kirstie McColl. george chivers
  • Score: 3

4:21pm Wed 14 May 14

george chivers says...

Velleity wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
All it took was a statement that said Southampton had all the money they needed for re-investment adding to the team etc from RK when he was appointed….

The statement that the board had inherited an 'awkward financial situation' has to go down as the most damaging comment in recent years, poor Les tried to put out the fire but once the media smelt blood and that 'titbit' was out I believe our glorious team was doomed….

...say what you like about NC but something so idiotic would not have left his lips.
"Doomed"? "DOOMED"? Really?

Also, are you seriously suggesting that there wouldn't have been bids for Adam and Luke (both talked about all season) this summer even if RK had told everyone we had £1Bn in the bank?

You may be right but I have a serious suggestion. You should all switch off your PCs and have a nice cup of tea. No amount of worrying over it is going to help, so you might as well just ignore it.

In fact, I'm going to take my own advice. Cheerio until the week before the start of the new season. Have a lovely but worrying summer, all.

(And Seed, I reserve the right to wish anyone well who's in danger of death from an operation without sanction).
Rather A good idea I think.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: All it took was a statement that said Southampton had all the money they needed for re-investment adding to the team etc from RK when he was appointed…. The statement that the board had inherited an 'awkward financial situation' has to go down as the most damaging comment in recent years, poor Les tried to put out the fire but once the media smelt blood and that 'titbit' was out I believe our glorious team was doomed…. ...say what you like about NC but something so idiotic would not have left his lips.[/p][/quote]"Doomed"? "DOOMED"? Really? Also, are you seriously suggesting that there wouldn't have been bids for Adam and Luke (both talked about all season) this summer even if RK had told everyone we had £1Bn in the bank? You may be right but I have a serious suggestion. You should all switch off your PCs and have a nice cup of tea. No amount of worrying over it is going to help, so you might as well just ignore it. In fact, I'm going to take my own advice. Cheerio until the week before the start of the new season. Have a lovely but worrying summer, all. (And Seed, I reserve the right to wish anyone well who's in danger of death from an operation without sanction).[/p][/quote]Rather A good idea I think. george chivers
  • Score: 1

4:51pm Wed 14 May 14

Rudolf Hucker says...

Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
I blame Guly for all of this mess
say something original
[quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: I blame Guly for all of this mess[/p][/quote]say something original Rudolf Hucker
  • Score: 2

4:53pm Wed 14 May 14

SaintJD says...

Breaking news: Spurs have just unveiled Dani Osvaldo as their new player/manager. It's all over Twitter.
Breaking news: Spurs have just unveiled Dani Osvaldo as their new player/manager. It's all over Twitter. SaintJD
  • Score: -1

4:57pm Wed 14 May 14

SaintJD says...

Ha, ha, you can tell it's the closed season, two great headlines on the Sky Sports site show what a slow news day it must be:

Rooney wants England success

Sherwood axe was planned - Anderton

Talk about stating the obvious. They'll be calling Flash next.
Ha, ha, you can tell it's the closed season, two great headlines on the Sky Sports site show what a slow news day it must be: Rooney wants England success Sherwood axe was planned - Anderton Talk about stating the obvious. They'll be calling Flash next. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

4:59pm Wed 14 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Costa Baz wrote:
So many people, with mind reading skills, claiming that the board will not give MP the financial backing he is after.
This may be the case. It may not.
Should MP leave, I for one will reserve judgement until after I see what expenditure the incoming manager makes, and from where the money is generated.
Many thought we would fall apart, when Pardew was sacked. We improved.
Many thought we would fall apart, when Adkins was sacked. We improved.
Was the choice of new manager, on each occasion, solely Cortese's, or did he take advice from Les Reed? Anybody know for sure?

Those missing Cortese, suddenly remember him as a chatty guy, who was forever in the press, when in reality he gave the fans nothing more than scraps of information, as and when it suited him to do so.

Someone on another forum posed an interesting comment, asking "Had Cortese been allowed to continue spending, without restraint, would he have become our equivalent of Peter Risdale?"
Where are Leeds now?

Whatever comes from this, sustainability is not a dirty word.
Even Cortese, in the early days, stated that the club must be run as a self sustaining business.
Maybe he forgot that, when running up £30m costs for redeveloping the training ground?
spot on Baz, so many people seem to think that they know whats going on without any evidence or proof. `I think` `im guessing` then a load of words about how are players and manager are all leaving because KL and the board wont back MP with money, and then of course my favourite comes up wen they say `we have to be realistic`.
we may lose MP we may lose players but we will still be saints.
the only thing we know for `real` (if you want to be realistic(still makes me laugh)) is what the club have told us. anything else is just guess work or media rumours!
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: So many people, with mind reading skills, claiming that the board will not give MP the financial backing he is after. This may be the case. It may not. Should MP leave, I for one will reserve judgement until after I see what expenditure the incoming manager makes, and from where the money is generated. Many thought we would fall apart, when Pardew was sacked. We improved. Many thought we would fall apart, when Adkins was sacked. We improved. Was the choice of new manager, on each occasion, solely Cortese's, or did he take advice from Les Reed? Anybody know for sure? Those missing Cortese, suddenly remember him as a chatty guy, who was forever in the press, when in reality he gave the fans nothing more than scraps of information, as and when it suited him to do so. Someone on another forum posed an interesting comment, asking "Had Cortese been allowed to continue spending, without restraint, would he have become our equivalent of Peter Risdale?" Where are Leeds now? Whatever comes from this, sustainability is not a dirty word. Even Cortese, in the early days, stated that the club must be run as a self sustaining business. Maybe he forgot that, when running up £30m costs for redeveloping the training ground?[/p][/quote]spot on Baz, so many people seem to think that they know whats going on without any evidence or proof. `I think` `im guessing` then a load of words about how are players and manager are all leaving because KL and the board wont back MP with money, and then of course my favourite comes up wen they say `we have to be realistic`. we may lose MP we may lose players but we will still be saints. the only thing we know for `real` (if you want to be realistic(still makes me laugh)) is what the club have told us. anything else is just guess work or media rumours! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

5:04pm Wed 14 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Brizzler wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Could you list his bad decisions for me please.
Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity.

Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think?
Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity. Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think?


Or was it in fact clever in that he has made it clear to other clubs that our finances are tight, so we won't be going in for silly money deals?

The break-out clause is nothing really to get excited about, this is pretty standard in most contracts these days and I'd be more surprised if it wasn't included.
brilliant, never thought of it like that. everyone knows, or knew, or club was well financed and we had money to spend o whenever we went in for a player the selling club put the price up. saying finances were awkward or difficult was a very clever way of telling selling clubs we wont pay over the top. clubs were going to come in for our players anyway, that statement would have made no difference, if the club are confident of keeping our players it could be a touch of genius.
[quote][p][bold]Brizzler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Could you list his bad decisions for me please.[/p][/quote]Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity. Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think?[/p][/quote][quote]Saying to the press that our finances were 'awkward' and 'difficult' which has led to this furore? Absolutely appalling nativity. Cortese was clever inserting the £2m break clause don't you think?[/quote] Or was it in fact clever in that he has made it clear to other clubs that our finances are tight, so we won't be going in for silly money deals? The break-out clause is nothing really to get excited about, this is pretty standard in most contracts these days and I'd be more surprised if it wasn't included.[/p][/quote]brilliant, never thought of it like that. everyone knows, or knew, or club was well financed and we had money to spend o whenever we went in for a player the selling club put the price up. saying finances were awkward or difficult was a very clever way of telling selling clubs we wont pay over the top. clubs were going to come in for our players anyway, that statement would have made no difference, if the club are confident of keeping our players it could be a touch of genius. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

5:11pm Wed 14 May 14

JohnItaly says...

If MoPo does jump ship part of the bargaining between Saint & Spurs should be Osvaldo also goes to Spurs for let's say £10m.
If MoPo does jump ship part of the bargaining between Saint & Spurs should be Osvaldo also goes to Spurs for let's say £10m. JohnItaly
  • Score: 5

5:13pm Wed 14 May 14

DisplacedFan says...

SaintJD wrote:
Breaking news: Spurs have just unveiled Dani Osvaldo as their new player/manager. It's all over Twitter.
And Mike Tyson has been signed as defencive coach!!
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Breaking news: Spurs have just unveiled Dani Osvaldo as their new player/manager. It's all over Twitter.[/p][/quote]And Mike Tyson has been signed as defencive coach!! DisplacedFan
  • Score: 1

5:26pm Wed 14 May 14

Positively4thStreet says...

boilerman wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
derek james wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.
tim sherwood would be a more than able replacement for mopo
Lets go for Fat Sam, a season of hoofball might be the answer? Daft, well you lot started it..............
I certainly hope Mopo doesn't leave,but why would the appointment of Sherwood be so daft?
He seems to be in the same mould as Nigel Pearson,and both of them might make able replacements if required.
They both appear to be able to engender a winning mentality in their teams,and succeed as well;the only real attributes that are required by any manager,and certainly all that would be required by the fans.
He's done great at Spurs, but then they knew he wasn't going to be around for long. Too volatile for me though and that lack of control has to rub off on the players during tough runs. That volatility was reflected in results as well - a couple of great runs when they were up with a nasty dip when the mood swung. He's been really entertaining and refreshing though so I hope he gets a decent next job somewhere and I think he probably will.
Just how is he in the same mold as Nigel Pearson?
Pearson is always calm and thoughtful , where Sherwood shoots from the hip.
I think that the way he behaved for a few games and especially against Benfica showed a bit of naivity, but he has probably learned from that and does deserve another go somewhere else.
Well,I was talking about passion and commitment,and a willingness to see a job through to the end actually,I didn't mean they have the same blood group or anything.
Nigel was starting to do a good job for us until he was kicked out for financial reasons,and has been pretty successful ever since.
Sherwood's record for the short time he was in charge,was statistically good,and he did us twice,and you have to be good to do that.
I'm just saying that when others suggested his name as an option,its a little unfair to say their suggestion is "daft", when given his record,(short though it maybe),it obviously isn't.
Someone else has suggested Rossler as an option,another one in the same passionate committed mould,and I've got no problem with that as a suggestion either...but perhaps I'm just being daft.
[quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: Why would Spurs go for Poch? Under Sherwood they beat us home and away. Sherwood has a superior record in the Prem. We chucked away 18 points from winning positions, down to tactics?? Poch has never won anything. We had a cracking squad so you could argue we underachieved under Poch. Spurs tried AVB and it didn't work out so would they risk another AVB situation? I dont think so, its all gutter press speculation, just like the rubbish about the players leaving SFC.[/p][/quote]tim sherwood would be a more than able replacement for mopo[/p][/quote]Lets go for Fat Sam, a season of hoofball might be the answer? Daft, well you lot started it..............[/p][/quote]I certainly hope Mopo doesn't leave,but why would the appointment of Sherwood be so daft? He seems to be in the same mould as Nigel Pearson,and both of them might make able replacements if required. They both appear to be able to engender a winning mentality in their teams,and succeed as well;the only real attributes that are required by any manager,and certainly all that would be required by the fans.[/p][/quote]He's done great at Spurs, but then they knew he wasn't going to be around for long. Too volatile for me though and that lack of control has to rub off on the players during tough runs. That volatility was reflected in results as well - a couple of great runs when they were up with a nasty dip when the mood swung. He's been really entertaining and refreshing though so I hope he gets a decent next job somewhere and I think he probably will.[/p][/quote]Just how is he in the same mold as Nigel Pearson? Pearson is always calm and thoughtful , where Sherwood shoots from the hip. I think that the way he behaved for a few games and especially against Benfica showed a bit of naivity, but he has probably learned from that and does deserve another go somewhere else.[/p][/quote]Well,I was talking about passion and commitment,and a willingness to see a job through to the end actually,I didn't mean they have the same blood group or anything. Nigel was starting to do a good job for us until he was kicked out for financial reasons,and has been pretty successful ever since. Sherwood's record for the short time he was in charge,was statistically good,and he did us twice,and you have to be good to do that. I'm just saying that when others suggested his name as an option,its a little unfair to say their suggestion is "daft", when given his record,(short though it maybe),it obviously isn't. Someone else has suggested Rossler as an option,another one in the same passionate committed mould,and I've got no problem with that as a suggestion either...but perhaps I'm just being daft. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

5:30pm Wed 14 May 14

jls217 says...

Newcastle have just announced to their fans that Parde dieux will remain as their manager. That'll be him clearing his desk this weekend then.
Newcastle have just announced to their fans that Parde dieux will remain as their manager. That'll be him clearing his desk this weekend then. jls217
  • Score: 2

5:33pm Wed 14 May 14

Beer Monster says...

george chivers wrote:
ItchenBridger wrote:
Just seen a chap at Southampton Central getting off a train from London.

Reminded me of David Moyes. Did any taxi drivers take him on a short

journey?
There's a bloke in our chip shop who looks like Kirstie McColl.
He's a skeleton?
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ItchenBridger[/bold] wrote: Just seen a chap at Southampton Central getting off a train from London. Reminded me of David Moyes. Did any taxi drivers take him on a short journey?[/p][/quote]There's a bloke in our chip shop who looks like Kirstie McColl.[/p][/quote]He's a skeleton? Beer Monster
  • Score: 1

6:21pm Wed 14 May 14

lowe esteem says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Read Gordon Strachan, Dave Merrington and Graham Souness and Lawrie Mac too.
They only want to be loved FFS.
Pulis got one thing right when he said they should be allowed 2/3 years.
If both parties were actually contracted to this, it would show up the real fools even more than it does already, know what I mean Levy?
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Read Gordon Strachan, Dave Merrington and Graham Souness and Lawrie Mac too. They only want to be loved FFS. Pulis got one thing right when he said they should be allowed 2/3 years. If both parties were actually contracted to this, it would show up the real fools even more than it does already, know what I mean Levy? lowe esteem
  • Score: 0

6:28pm Wed 14 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Beer Monster wrote:
george chivers wrote:
ItchenBridger wrote:
Just seen a chap at Southampton Central getting off a train from London.

Reminded me of David Moyes. Did any taxi drivers take him on a short

journey?
There's a bloke in our chip shop who looks like Kirstie McColl.
He's a skeleton?
No, BM, he's a liar and I'm not sure about you :-)
[quote][p][bold]Beer Monster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ItchenBridger[/bold] wrote: Just seen a chap at Southampton Central getting off a train from London. Reminded me of David Moyes. Did any taxi drivers take him on a short journey?[/p][/quote]There's a bloke in our chip shop who looks like Kirstie McColl.[/p][/quote]He's a skeleton?[/p][/quote]No, BM, he's a liar and I'm not sure about you :-) Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 0

7:18pm Wed 14 May 14

redsnapper says...

WHY WHY do the DE scribblers (all skates I suspect) continually cut and paste this rubbish.

Why not initiate a POCH MUST STAY CAMPAIGN,,, IF and it is a big IF they really believe the garbage they rehash.

Spurs is a horrid club and the most hated club in London..for good reason.
WHY WHY do the DE scribblers (all skates I suspect) continually cut and paste this rubbish. Why not initiate a POCH MUST STAY CAMPAIGN,,, IF and it is a big IF they really believe the garbage they rehash. Spurs is a horrid club and the most hated club in London..for good reason. redsnapper
  • Score: 2

7:26pm Wed 14 May 14

redandy10 says...

Of course Poch isn't going anywhere, you see he has a contract, CASE CLOSED! And If anyone thinks to the contrary, well then they are basically calling Les Reed a liar, yes a LIAR.

Everyone thinks that because a bigger club comes in for our player he'll leave, WRONG!!! Two words Luis Suarez.
Of course Poch isn't going anywhere, you see he has a contract, CASE CLOSED! And If anyone thinks to the contrary, well then they are basically calling Les Reed a liar, yes a LIAR. Everyone thinks that because a bigger club comes in for our player he'll leave, WRONG!!! Two words Luis Suarez. redandy10
  • Score: 0

7:49pm Wed 14 May 14

bullsbags says...

redandy10 wrote:
Of course Poch isn't going anywhere, you see he has a contract, CASE CLOSED! And If anyone thinks to the contrary, well then they are basically calling Les Reed a liar, yes a LIAR.

Everyone thinks that because a bigger club comes in for our player he'll leave, WRONG!!! Two words Luis Suarez.
A few more words
Shearer,Bridge,Walco
tt bale,ox
Need I go on
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: Of course Poch isn't going anywhere, you see he has a contract, CASE CLOSED! And If anyone thinks to the contrary, well then they are basically calling Les Reed a liar, yes a LIAR. Everyone thinks that because a bigger club comes in for our player he'll leave, WRONG!!! Two words Luis Suarez.[/p][/quote]A few more words Shearer,Bridge,Walco tt bale,ox Need I go on bullsbags
  • Score: 0

8:14pm Wed 14 May 14

redandy10 says...

bullsbags wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Of course Poch isn't going anywhere, you see he has a contract, CASE CLOSED! And If anyone thinks to the contrary, well then they are basically calling Les Reed a liar, yes a LIAR.

Everyone thinks that because a bigger club comes in for our player he'll leave, WRONG!!! Two words Luis Suarez.
A few more words
Shearer,Bridge,Walco

tt bale,ox
Need I go on
You obviously didn't read what Les Reed said, we are NOT a selling club. Oh and if that isn't enough the players are UNDER contract, so they ain't going anywhere unless the club wants to sell em, which they don't.
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: Of course Poch isn't going anywhere, you see he has a contract, CASE CLOSED! And If anyone thinks to the contrary, well then they are basically calling Les Reed a liar, yes a LIAR. Everyone thinks that because a bigger club comes in for our player he'll leave, WRONG!!! Two words Luis Suarez.[/p][/quote]A few more words Shearer,Bridge,Walco tt bale,ox Need I go on[/p][/quote]You obviously didn't read what Les Reed said, we are NOT a selling club. Oh and if that isn't enough the players are UNDER contract, so they ain't going anywhere unless the club wants to sell em, which they don't. redandy10
  • Score: 1

8:15pm Wed 14 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

redandy10 wrote:
Of course Poch isn't going anywhere, you see he has a contract, CASE CLOSED! And If anyone thinks to the contrary, well then they are basically calling Les Reed a liar, yes a LIAR.

Everyone thinks that because a bigger club comes in for our player he'll leave, WRONG!!! Two words Luis Suarez.
Ha Ha Ha HA, your making yourself look as stupid as anne Robinsons face! (seriously ha anyone else seen her on watchdog tonight?)

No one has said MP wont go because of his contract, your making things up to suit your own silly views! what people have said is that he cant just walk away, he has a contract and if spuds want him they have to go through the club, and the club can quite happily say no. I don't know what you don't get about that. Les Reed said the club will do all it can to keep the players and manager, so if anyone goes he isn't a liar as long as the club try to keep them!
yes suarez wanted out but was told NO you keep saying the club have no say, people use suarez and others to keep reminding you that they do.
your going to be so happy to come on here and gloat if they do move aren't you, I bet you've even made some posts up ready for the news.
most fans want to keep the players and manager for the good of the club, you seem to want them to go just so you can say `told you so`!
strange type of fan if you ask me! I hope you are really happy if you hear the news.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: Of course Poch isn't going anywhere, you see he has a contract, CASE CLOSED! And If anyone thinks to the contrary, well then they are basically calling Les Reed a liar, yes a LIAR. Everyone thinks that because a bigger club comes in for our player he'll leave, WRONG!!! Two words Luis Suarez.[/p][/quote]Ha Ha Ha HA, your making yourself look as stupid as anne Robinsons face! (seriously ha anyone else seen her on watchdog tonight?) No one has said MP wont go because of his contract, your making things up to suit your own silly views! what people have said is that he cant just walk away, he has a contract and if spuds want him they have to go through the club, and the club can quite happily say no. I don't know what you don't get about that. Les Reed said the club will do all it can to keep the players and manager, so if anyone goes he isn't a liar as long as the club try to keep them! yes suarez wanted out but was told NO you keep saying the club have no say, people use suarez and others to keep reminding you that they do. your going to be so happy to come on here and gloat if they do move aren't you, I bet you've even made some posts up ready for the news. most fans want to keep the players and manager for the good of the club, you seem to want them to go just so you can say `told you so`! strange type of fan if you ask me! I hope you are really happy if you hear the news. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 4

8:31pm Wed 14 May 14

John Smith34 says...

Fear not fellow Saints fans, feeling despondent about potentially losing our best manager for a long time or our star players? One thing that always cheers me up no matter what. Google Images > Ted Bates statue....midget man with over sized head and a dislocated wrist
Fear not fellow Saints fans, feeling despondent about potentially losing our best manager for a long time or our star players? One thing that always cheers me up no matter what. Google Images > Ted Bates statue....midget man with over sized head and a dislocated wrist John Smith34
  • Score: 1

8:58pm Wed 14 May 14

Baddesley Bill says...

John Smith34 wrote:
Fear not fellow Saints fans, feeling despondent about potentially losing our best manager for a long time or our star players? One thing that always cheers me up no matter what. Google Images > Ted Bates statue....midget man with over sized head and a dislocated wrist
You know...I know...we all know...that first statue was a tribute to Milan Manderic and the path that he subsequently led Poopey down.. Legend. ;O)
[quote][p][bold]John Smith34[/bold] wrote: Fear not fellow Saints fans, feeling despondent about potentially losing our best manager for a long time or our star players? One thing that always cheers me up no matter what. Google Images > Ted Bates statue....midget man with over sized head and a dislocated wrist[/p][/quote]You know...I know...we all know...that first statue was a tribute to Milan Manderic and the path that he subsequently led Poopey down.. Legend. ;O) Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 0

9:01pm Wed 14 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
ItchenBridger wrote:
Just seen a chap at Southampton Central getting off a train from London.

Reminded me of David Moyes. Did any taxi drivers take him on a short

journey?
There's a bloke in our chip shop who looks like Kirstie McColl.
Hope he doesn't serve up skate and chips.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ItchenBridger[/bold] wrote: Just seen a chap at Southampton Central getting off a train from London. Reminded me of David Moyes. Did any taxi drivers take him on a short journey?[/p][/quote]There's a bloke in our chip shop who looks like Kirstie McColl.[/p][/quote]Hope he doesn't serve up skate and chips. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

9:15pm Wed 14 May 14

redandy10 says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Of course Poch isn't going anywhere, you see he has a contract, CASE CLOSED! And If anyone thinks to the contrary, well then they are basically calling Les Reed a liar, yes a LIAR.

Everyone thinks that because a bigger club comes in for our player he'll leave, WRONG!!! Two words Luis Suarez.
Ha Ha Ha HA, your making yourself look as stupid as anne Robinsons face! (seriously ha anyone else seen her on watchdog tonight?)

No one has said MP wont go because of his contract, your making things up to suit your own silly views! what people have said is that he cant just walk away, he has a contract and if spuds want him they have to go through the club, and the club can quite happily say no. I don't know what you don't get about that. Les Reed said the club will do all it can to keep the players and manager, so if anyone goes he isn't a liar as long as the club try to keep them!
yes suarez wanted out but was told NO you keep saying the club have no say, people use suarez and others to keep reminding you that they do.
your going to be so happy to come on here and gloat if they do move aren't you, I bet you've even made some posts up ready for the news.
most fans want to keep the players and manager for the good of the club, you seem to want them to go just so you can say `told you so`!
strange type of fan if you ask me! I hope you are really happy if you hear the news.
No, but Les Reed said.........
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: Of course Poch isn't going anywhere, you see he has a contract, CASE CLOSED! And If anyone thinks to the contrary, well then they are basically calling Les Reed a liar, yes a LIAR. Everyone thinks that because a bigger club comes in for our player he'll leave, WRONG!!! Two words Luis Suarez.[/p][/quote]Ha Ha Ha HA, your making yourself look as stupid as anne Robinsons face! (seriously ha anyone else seen her on watchdog tonight?) No one has said MP wont go because of his contract, your making things up to suit your own silly views! what people have said is that he cant just walk away, he has a contract and if spuds want him they have to go through the club, and the club can quite happily say no. I don't know what you don't get about that. Les Reed said the club will do all it can to keep the players and manager, so if anyone goes he isn't a liar as long as the club try to keep them! yes suarez wanted out but was told NO you keep saying the club have no say, people use suarez and others to keep reminding you that they do. your going to be so happy to come on here and gloat if they do move aren't you, I bet you've even made some posts up ready for the news. most fans want to keep the players and manager for the good of the club, you seem to want them to go just so you can say `told you so`! strange type of fan if you ask me! I hope you are really happy if you hear the news.[/p][/quote]No, but Les Reed said......... redandy10
  • Score: -2

10:22pm Wed 14 May 14

SnapperSaint says...

In my opinion, Poch is being courted by Spurs and he is talking to them about their offer, that's why there has be no confirmation of a signed contract coming out of the meeting on Monday that Poch said was going to take place.
However, that does not mean he will take what Spurs might offer him and again in my opinion (echoing what has been said in posts above) what have they really got to offer Poch in comparison to what could be on offer at Saints, very little!
In my opinion, Poch is being courted by Spurs and he is talking to them about their offer, that's why there has be no confirmation of a signed contract coming out of the meeting on Monday that Poch said was going to take place. However, that does not mean he will take what Spurs might offer him and again in my opinion (echoing what has been said in posts above) what have they really got to offer Poch in comparison to what could be on offer at Saints, very little! SnapperSaint
  • Score: 0

10:44pm Wed 14 May 14

SaintWindsor says...

SnapperSaint wrote:
In my opinion, Poch is being courted by Spurs and he is talking to them about their offer, that's why there has be no confirmation of a signed contract coming out of the meeting on Monday that Poch said was going to take place.
However, that does not mean he will take what Spurs might offer him and again in my opinion (echoing what has been said in posts above) what have they really got to offer Poch in comparison to what could be on offer at Saints, very little!
I am confident that Poch will stay but fear that AL & LS will go.
There again what do I know ?!
[quote][p][bold]SnapperSaint[/bold] wrote: In my opinion, Poch is being courted by Spurs and he is talking to them about their offer, that's why there has be no confirmation of a signed contract coming out of the meeting on Monday that Poch said was going to take place. However, that does not mean he will take what Spurs might offer him and again in my opinion (echoing what has been said in posts above) what have they really got to offer Poch in comparison to what could be on offer at Saints, very little![/p][/quote]I am confident that Poch will stay but fear that AL & LS will go. There again what do I know ?! SaintWindsor
  • Score: 1

11:30pm Wed 14 May 14

the_elf says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Genuine question; what have been his bad decisions so far? The only one I can think of is the statement about our finances being poor, as it's put some pressure on us in the market. Even that's pretty marginal - he might have wanted to keep it a little quieter but equally it's probably something that had to be released at some point. Other than that, what's your list?
1/ Should have got a FIRM price for Dani before releasing the statement about his fight with Jose.
The board should have said something about "He and his 8 month pregnant partner want to return to Italy etc..." got a FIRM price .... and then let the story of a fight come out. At the end of the day the boards mistake will COST the club something like £8m.

2/ Should have said something like "no big transfers the summer" when the accounts came out. The message they gave indicted to the media that there was a "fire sale". They tired to correct it 2 weeks late with the "we don't NEED to sell" but by then the media were not listening.

3/ Should have been talking to Jack Cork about a new contract months ago.
1, ralph wasn't in charge when Osvaldo spat he dummy! cant really blame him for something he was never involved with.

2. along with the `difficult situation`, which the press would have pointed out either way, there was a firm `no players needed to be sold` statement. you cant pick out one part and ignore the other.

3. jack cork has a year left to run on his contract, there is no rush to sign him to a longer deal just yet. get the manager sorted, either way, and then talk to jack. If MP is going you don't know if a new manager would want jack, don't know why he wouldn't, but why have a player on a 5yr deal on big money if he might not be wanted?

4. do you think ice hockey is any different to football with the constant changing of managers? 10 prem managers lost their jobs last season with another 2 going after it ended 3 if you include giggs. how many ice hockey managers were sacked in their last season? out of 30 teams in the NHL 6 managers/head coaches had been in place for over 5 years, how many prem managers have been in the same job that long? 1 wenger and his contract is up and he might be on his way!
Point 4 is very unfair. It is a fact rather than a rumour or opinion. There is no place on these forums for that sort of thing.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Genuine question; what have been his bad decisions so far? The only one I can think of is the statement about our finances being poor, as it's put some pressure on us in the market. Even that's pretty marginal - he might have wanted to keep it a little quieter but equally it's probably something that had to be released at some point. Other than that, what's your list?[/p][/quote]1/ Should have got a FIRM price for Dani before releasing the statement about his fight with Jose. The board should have said something about "He and his 8 month pregnant partner want to return to Italy etc..." got a FIRM price .... and then let the story of a fight come out. At the end of the day the boards mistake will COST the club something like £8m. 2/ Should have said something like "no big transfers the summer" when the accounts came out. The message they gave indicted to the media that there was a "fire sale". They tired to correct it 2 weeks late with the "we don't NEED to sell" but by then the media were not listening. 3/ Should have been talking to Jack Cork about a new contract months ago.[/p][/quote]1, ralph wasn't in charge when Osvaldo spat he dummy! cant really blame him for something he was never involved with. 2. along with the `difficult situation`, which the press would have pointed out either way, there was a firm `no players needed to be sold` statement. you cant pick out one part and ignore the other. 3. jack cork has a year left to run on his contract, there is no rush to sign him to a longer deal just yet. get the manager sorted, either way, and then talk to jack. If MP is going you don't know if a new manager would want jack, don't know why he wouldn't, but why have a player on a 5yr deal on big money if he might not be wanted? 4. do you think ice hockey is any different to football with the constant changing of managers? 10 prem managers lost their jobs last season with another 2 going after it ended 3 if you include giggs. how many ice hockey managers were sacked in their last season? out of 30 teams in the NHL 6 managers/head coaches had been in place for over 5 years, how many prem managers have been in the same job that long? 1 wenger and his contract is up and he might be on his way![/p][/quote]Point 4 is very unfair. It is a fact rather than a rumour or opinion. There is no place on these forums for that sort of thing. the_elf
  • Score: 2

3:08am Thu 15 May 14

Thornhill Saint says...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
N Smith wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area.
His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books.
.
The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM.

This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.
Why would he need to leave his current home to take the spurs job, Harry Redknapp has always lived in Poole , Pulis Odriscol All still live in Bournemouth ..
Also , like it or not, Solent University is not one of the best - their position in the University league tables is similar to Pompey's in the football ones. His son could easily move to a Sports Science course at a stronger university in London.
For sport solent is one of the best. It's low ranking reflects it's vocational nature and the fact it is not big on research.
[quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]N Smith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe he will leave Saints as his family are settled in the area. His eldest son is at Solent University doing a Sports Science degree and his youngest is a good footballer on Saints Academy's books. . The only reason I can see is if he is FORCED OUT by Ralph (How many bad decisions is that bloke going to make ?). Does he think Football is like ice hockey where players/managers change clubs every few years. Somebody needs to tell him that Football is different in that if you have something good you KEEP THEM. This all reminds me of the 94/95 season when Bally took us to 10th and left at the end of the season (quote from Duncan's book) saying ""would not stay where he was not wanted"... there were elements at the Dell who no longer wanted Ball there as manager"... . Years of relegation battles followed.[/p][/quote]Why would he need to leave his current home to take the spurs job, Harry Redknapp has always lived in Poole , Pulis Odriscol All still live in Bournemouth ..[/p][/quote]Also , like it or not, Solent University is not one of the best - their position in the University league tables is similar to Pompey's in the football ones. His son could easily move to a Sports Science course at a stronger university in London.[/p][/quote]For sport solent is one of the best. It's low ranking reflects it's vocational nature and the fact it is not big on research. Thornhill Saint
  • Score: 0

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