Saints sack club legend Jason Dodd and his youth team assistant Paul Williams

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SAINTS are believed to have sacked club legend Jason Dodd and fellow youth coach Paul Williams.

Dodd had been the club's under-18 manager, with Williams - also a former Saints defender - his assistant.

Saints starlet Luke Shaw this morning tweeted: "Gutted for doddsy and Willo, helped me a lot in my development over the years, wish them all the best."

Dodd signed for Saints from Bath City in 1989 and enjoyed a 15-year career in the top flight, winning England U21 honours along the way, and made 453 appearances for the club.

Williams was brought into the club by Gordon Strachan and was a member of the squad that reached the FA Cup final in 2003.

The pair were responsible for helping to bring Shaw, James Ward-Prowse, Calum Chambers, Harrison Reed and Sam Gallagher quickly through the youth set-up and into the first team.

The Daily Echo understands that the sackings are unrelated to the future of Mauricio Pochettino.

Saints have said they are unwilling to comment because it is an ongoing legal process.

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9:41am Tue 20 May 14

andoru says...

What do we read into this then? Is it MoPo taking more charge of the youth setup so everyone learns his way of playing? Some have said so, and if that's the case it would be a clear sign of his intent to stay on. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

Sorry to see Dodd go though. True legend. And I still credit him with the goal from the corner against Pompey.
What do we read into this then? Is it MoPo taking more charge of the youth setup so everyone learns his way of playing? Some have said so, and if that's the case it would be a clear sign of his intent to stay on. Guess we'll have to wait and see. Sorry to see Dodd go though. True legend. And I still credit him with the goal from the corner against Pompey. andoru
  • Score: 69

9:41am Tue 20 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Something has to have happened, his track record speaks for itself. What a shame and at a time when we are trying to encourage everyone to stay as part of the 'family'.
Something has to have happened, his track record speaks for itself. What a shame and at a time when we are trying to encourage everyone to stay as part of the 'family'. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 35

9:49am Tue 20 May 14

Positively4thStreet says...

That will really encourage Luke in terms of his continuing loyalty to the board then,won't it!!
That will really encourage Luke in terms of his continuing loyalty to the board then,won't it!! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -2

9:52am Tue 20 May 14

Saintwiz says...

Perhaps finishing 6th in the league wasn't good enough?
Perhaps finishing 6th in the league wasn't good enough? Saintwiz
  • Score: 2

9:58am Tue 20 May 14

Lat Te Mis says...

I also think something is happening?
However, it is somewhat frustrating SFC are still keeping all of in the dark,
But, hey, who bloody cares if it's all positive and I'm remaining optimistic.
SAINT JASON DODD. Thanks for all the memories at the Dell....,
A real genuine guy !
COYRAWA
I also think something is happening? However, it is somewhat frustrating SFC are still keeping all of in the dark, But, hey, who bloody cares if it's all positive and I'm remaining optimistic. SAINT JASON DODD. Thanks for all the memories at the Dell...., A real genuine guy ! COYRAWA Lat Te Mis
  • Score: 35

10:01am Tue 20 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

To misquote Churchill, 'This isn't the end, it's not even the beginning of the end, but it may well be the end of the beginning.' This could mean that the Board has finished negotiating the management contracts and it might be the start of us all finding out the make up of next season's management set up.

Once that's in place, then the players' situations might begin to get sorted out.

Meanwhile, thank you and good luck, Doddsy. I hope you will be welcome to sit alongside Matty and Franny at SMS next season.
To misquote Churchill, 'This isn't the end, it's not even the beginning of the end, but it may well be the end of the beginning.' This could mean that the Board has finished negotiating the management contracts and it might be the start of us all finding out the make up of next season's management set up. Once that's in place, then the players' situations might begin to get sorted out. Meanwhile, thank you and good luck, Doddsy. I hope you will be welcome to sit alongside Matty and Franny at SMS next season. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 33

10:10am Tue 20 May 14

Alicesdad says...

Of course something is happening. There is always something happening.

But as usual we only have speculation until some sort of an announcement is made. The Echo wont know until it appears on a tabloid website so we may as well ignore this until there's something tangible to discuss.

Best wishes to Jason Dodd.
Of course something is happening. There is always something happening. But as usual we only have speculation until some sort of an announcement is made. The Echo wont know until it appears on a tabloid website so we may as well ignore this until there's something tangible to discuss. Best wishes to Jason Dodd. Alicesdad
  • Score: 17

10:16am Tue 20 May 14

Confucious says...

With the rumour mill frenzy in full blast, it's refreshing to see at least one publication is sticking to the facts.

The Confuciousbugle.com/
sports pages today read: "Between 0 and 183 Saints staffers will or will not be sacked as it becomes clear that MoPo definitely will or will definitely not leave the club - and that between none and all of the players will or will not be sold either before, during or after trhe World Cup. We can also reveal that something else will or won't or is likely or unlikely to happen or not happen when the board decide to pour funds into the club to meet their ambitions or hold funds back in line with their lack of ambition or put a moderate amount in in line with their moderate ambition."

In other news, the front page lead makes it clear that the Mayor of Southampton certainly was or definitely wasn't the person who took a very large emergency dump on a Burley public footpath yesterday.
With the rumour mill frenzy in full blast, it's refreshing to see at least one publication is sticking to the facts. The Confuciousbugle.com/ sports pages today read: "Between 0 and 183 Saints staffers will or will not be sacked as it becomes clear that MoPo definitely will or will definitely not leave the club - and that between none and all of the players will or will not be sold either before, during or after trhe World Cup. We can also reveal that something else will or won't or is likely or unlikely to happen or not happen when the board decide to pour funds into the club to meet their ambitions or hold funds back in line with their lack of ambition or put a moderate amount in in line with their moderate ambition." In other news, the front page lead makes it clear that the Mayor of Southampton certainly was or definitely wasn't the person who took a very large emergency dump on a Burley public footpath yesterday. Confucious
  • Score: 24

10:16am Tue 20 May 14

Puddletown Saint says...

Some good posts on here this morning. Not sure what to make of this. Must confess that 6th was a bit of a let-down but that was only because many of the u18’s moved up as did the u21’s which is surely the object of the exercise.

May be Saints are only playing one youth team next season in readiness for the ‘B’ league….

Jason, you will be remembered as a true Saint.
Some good posts on here this morning. Not sure what to make of this. Must confess that 6th was a bit of a let-down but that was only because many of the u18’s moved up as did the u21’s which is surely the object of the exercise. May be Saints are only playing one youth team next season in readiness for the ‘B’ league…. Jason, you will be remembered as a true Saint. Puddletown Saint
  • Score: 16

10:25am Tue 20 May 14

saintmac says...

Very sorry to see them go and thank them for their hard work and loyalty over
the years.The question is why? I think Andoru could be right.Certainly I feel the
Board are looking to bring in staff with more experience - similar in a way to
MP replacing NA.It will be interesting to see if the replacements are Briish or
come from abroad.My money is on from abroad.
Just wish MP would sign his contract soon.
Very sorry to see them go and thank them for their hard work and loyalty over the years.The question is why? I think Andoru could be right.Certainly I feel the Board are looking to bring in staff with more experience - similar in a way to MP replacing NA.It will be interesting to see if the replacements are Briish or come from abroad.My money is on from abroad. Just wish MP would sign his contract soon. saintmac
  • Score: 12

10:25am Tue 20 May 14

massimoosti says...

Note that he was "sacked" and not "let go".
Note that he was "sacked" and not "let go". massimoosti
  • Score: 11

10:26am Tue 20 May 14

Clever Dick says...

Confucious wrote:
With the rumour mill frenzy in full blast, it's refreshing to see at least one publication is sticking to the facts.

The Confuciousbugle.com/

sports pages today read: "Between 0 and 183 Saints staffers will or will not be sacked as it becomes clear that MoPo definitely will or will definitely not leave the club - and that between none and all of the players will or will not be sold either before, during or after trhe World Cup. We can also reveal that something else will or won't or is likely or unlikely to happen or not happen when the board decide to pour funds into the club to meet their ambitions or hold funds back in line with their lack of ambition or put a moderate amount in in line with their moderate ambition."

In other news, the front page lead makes it clear that the Mayor of Southampton certainly was or definitely wasn't the person who took a very large emergency dump on a Burley public footpath yesterday.
Come on Confucious. How about the Bugle getting an intertview with somebody important at the club who knows everything. Wth your influence you should be able to get Mrs Wilson to let us in on a few secrets.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: With the rumour mill frenzy in full blast, it's refreshing to see at least one publication is sticking to the facts. The Confuciousbugle.com/ sports pages today read: "Between 0 and 183 Saints staffers will or will not be sacked as it becomes clear that MoPo definitely will or will definitely not leave the club - and that between none and all of the players will or will not be sold either before, during or after trhe World Cup. We can also reveal that something else will or won't or is likely or unlikely to happen or not happen when the board decide to pour funds into the club to meet their ambitions or hold funds back in line with their lack of ambition or put a moderate amount in in line with their moderate ambition." In other news, the front page lead makes it clear that the Mayor of Southampton certainly was or definitely wasn't the person who took a very large emergency dump on a Burley public footpath yesterday.[/p][/quote]Come on Confucious. How about the Bugle getting an intertview with somebody important at the club who knows everything. Wth your influence you should be able to get Mrs Wilson to let us in on a few secrets. Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

10:27am Tue 20 May 14

saintpeter63 says...

a great great servant to sfc
a true saint through and through

thanks Jason
and good luck
a great great servant to sfc a true saint through and through thanks Jason and good luck saintpeter63
  • Score: 26

10:33am Tue 20 May 14

Costa Baz says...

Could be any number of reasons.
Let the speculation begin and see how long a suggestion takes to become a rumour and then an Internet forum "fact".
Could be any number of reasons. Let the speculation begin and see how long a suggestion takes to become a rumour and then an Internet forum "fact". Costa Baz
  • Score: 8

10:37am Tue 20 May 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

Can't blame Guly!
Can't blame Guly! worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: 26

10:37am Tue 20 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Met doddsy at a wedding reception on Shirley high street years ago. what a nice guy, was happy to sit at the bar and chat football for ages and even gave me some good tips on playing as a right footed left back (the first being don't do it!). its a shame to see him go, and Williams, and hope they go on to do well elsewhere.

Can you imagine how some posters would have reacted and how many posts there would have been if NC had made this decision?
Met doddsy at a wedding reception on Shirley high street years ago. what a nice guy, was happy to sit at the bar and chat football for ages and even gave me some good tips on playing as a right footed left back (the first being don't do it!). its a shame to see him go, and Williams, and hope they go on to do well elsewhere. Can you imagine how some posters would have reacted and how many posts there would have been if NC had made this decision? el caballo santos101
  • Score: 15

10:38am Tue 20 May 14

Wozzie says...

Grooming our starlets to progress to 'bigger' clubs for reward!
Grooming our starlets to progress to 'bigger' clubs for reward! Wozzie
  • Score: -9

10:52am Tue 20 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

massimoosti wrote:
Note that he was "sacked" and not "let go".
Note that it also says: '..... believed to have .....'
[quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Note that he was "sacked" and not "let go".[/p][/quote]Note that it also says: '..... believed to have .....' Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 7

10:53am Tue 20 May 14

WECOMING4U says...

Why do Saints seem intent on shooting themselves in the football boot? Ok if they want to move on with staff, try and do it properly at least.
Is the club about to go on a downward spiral again?
Anyway I can see Mo Po going, Eddie Howe coming in and a mass exodus of star players leaving but hey we will still be Southampton FC and that will always be the case. Players and staff come and go but true fans remain for ever.
Why do Saints seem intent on shooting themselves in the football boot? Ok if they want to move on with staff, try and do it properly at least. Is the club about to go on a downward spiral again? Anyway I can see Mo Po going, Eddie Howe coming in and a mass exodus of star players leaving but hey we will still be Southampton FC and that will always be the case. Players and staff come and go but true fans remain for ever. WECOMING4U
  • Score: -27

10:57am Tue 20 May 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

Well I have always thought that Saints have such a great Academy team why don't they compete better for the FA Youth trophy or winning the U18s or 21 leagues? I think we have fallen short of expectations for the last few years when we have had such as strong crop of youngsters.

This could be more an analysis of the setup by Les Read and Kruegar who have decided that we need to freshen up the coaches at Youth positions. The Southampton Way has to be to develop not only the best youngsters but the best coaches who could then progress up to manage the 1st team. Dodd was obviously deemed to be someway off this level and maybe more has been asked of Pochettino on this front so he can groom his own successor!
Well I have always thought that Saints have such a great Academy team why don't they compete better for the FA Youth trophy or winning the U18s or 21 leagues? I think we have fallen short of expectations for the last few years when we have had such as strong crop of youngsters. This could be more an analysis of the setup by Les Read and Kruegar who have decided that we need to freshen up the coaches at Youth positions. The Southampton Way has to be to develop not only the best youngsters but the best coaches who could then progress up to manage the 1st team. Dodd was obviously deemed to be someway off this level and maybe more has been asked of Pochettino on this front so he can groom his own successor! allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: 6

11:07am Tue 20 May 14

Invidia says...

And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ?
And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ? Invidia
  • Score: 5

11:08am Tue 20 May 14

legod7 says...

Perhaps with the squad of players he had at his disposal it was expected that the U 18 team would do better than they did. Simple as that. They only finished 6th in league and were knocked out of the cup early. Probably a board decision and nothing t do with 1st team matters
Perhaps with the squad of players he had at his disposal it was expected that the U 18 team would do better than they did. Simple as that. They only finished 6th in league and were knocked out of the cup early. Probably a board decision and nothing t do with 1st team matters legod7
  • Score: 12

11:14am Tue 20 May 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

Lets face it Saints finished 6th in the U18s league and this isn't good enough for where we want to be end of. The club needs to produce success at all levels to insure that we are the club that all parents want to send their kids to. Saints are one of the only clubs that don't pay agents fees for youngsters so we have done pretty well attracting top quality youngsters on the premise of 1st team football. We have to make sure we continue that.
Lets face it Saints finished 6th in the U18s league and this isn't good enough for where we want to be end of. The club needs to produce success at all levels to insure that we are the club that all parents want to send their kids to. Saints are one of the only clubs that don't pay agents fees for youngsters so we have done pretty well attracting top quality youngsters on the premise of 1st team football. We have to make sure we continue that. allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: 11

11:16am Tue 20 May 14

george chivers says...

Could it be linked to the two academy players who have been released and signed for Villa? Tom Legett, I think, and a.n.other.
Could it be linked to the two academy players who have been released and signed for Villa? Tom Legett, I think, and a.n.other. george chivers
  • Score: 7

11:17am Tue 20 May 14

Santa Retfordia says...

legod7 wrote:
Perhaps with the squad of players he had at his disposal it was expected that the U 18 team would do better than they did. Simple as that. They only finished 6th in league and were knocked out of the cup early. Probably a board decision and nothing t do with 1st team matters
*Nods*

I expect this is probably bang on. Given how important our youth set up is I think the board are just asking more from the coaches than they're getting. It's sad because Doddsy is a very likeable man, but I guess that's how we all saw Nigel too.
[quote][p][bold]legod7[/bold] wrote: Perhaps with the squad of players he had at his disposal it was expected that the U 18 team would do better than they did. Simple as that. They only finished 6th in league and were knocked out of the cup early. Probably a board decision and nothing t do with 1st team matters[/p][/quote]*Nods* I expect this is probably bang on. Given how important our youth set up is I think the board are just asking more from the coaches than they're getting. It's sad because Doddsy is a very likeable man, but I guess that's how we all saw Nigel too. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 12

11:24am Tue 20 May 14

redandy10 says...

Sad news!

I still remember Doody's excellent dispaly against Liverpool at the Dell when we beat them 4-1. I think it was around 1989 or 1990. A loyal servant to the club and a genuinely nice chap.

Good luck Jason!
Sad news! I still remember Doody's excellent dispaly against Liverpool at the Dell when we beat them 4-1. I think it was around 1989 or 1990. A loyal servant to the club and a genuinely nice chap. Good luck Jason! redandy10
  • Score: 20

11:31am Tue 20 May 14

CB FRY LIVES says...

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Well I have always thought that Saints have such a great Academy team why don't they compete better for the FA Youth trophy or winning the U18s or 21 leagues? I think we have fallen short of expectations for the last few years when we have had such as strong crop of youngsters.

This could be more an analysis of the setup by Les Read and Kruegar who have decided that we need to freshen up the coaches at Youth positions. The Southampton Way has to be to develop not only the best youngsters but the best coaches who could then progress up to manage the 1st team. Dodd was obviously deemed to be someway off this level and maybe more has been asked of Pochettino on this front so he can groom his own successor!
Because so many of our young players have been fast tracked into the first team squad over the last decade it has meant that whoever has been in charge of the youth team have rarely been able to pick our strongest team.. So you could say that Jason Dodd, Paul Williams and co have been victims of their own success..
whatever the reason for their departure lets wish them well.
COYR
[quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: Well I have always thought that Saints have such a great Academy team why don't they compete better for the FA Youth trophy or winning the U18s or 21 leagues? I think we have fallen short of expectations for the last few years when we have had such as strong crop of youngsters. This could be more an analysis of the setup by Les Read and Kruegar who have decided that we need to freshen up the coaches at Youth positions. The Southampton Way has to be to develop not only the best youngsters but the best coaches who could then progress up to manage the 1st team. Dodd was obviously deemed to be someway off this level and maybe more has been asked of Pochettino on this front so he can groom his own successor![/p][/quote]Because so many of our young players have been fast tracked into the first team squad over the last decade it has meant that whoever has been in charge of the youth team[s] have rarely been able to pick our strongest team.. So you could say that Jason Dodd, Paul Williams and co have been victims of their own success.. whatever the reason for their departure lets wish them well. COYR CB FRY LIVES
  • Score: 10

11:34am Tue 20 May 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Invidia wrote:
And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ?
Shaw can still be upset on a personal and emotional level (which by all accounts,he is),about these sackings without it effecting his attitude to a potential move away,but the point is,what effect will it have on his own personal loyalty to the club,as regards a move,when he see's at an impressionable age,just was little regard the hieracchy of top football clubs have towards hard work and loyalty.
Someone at the club,it would appear,still wields enough power to be as ruthless as Cortese,but the question is..who is it?
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ?[/p][/quote]Shaw can still be upset on a personal and emotional level (which by all accounts,he is),about these sackings without it effecting his attitude to a potential move away,but the point is,what effect will it have on his own personal loyalty to the club,as regards a move,when he see's at an impressionable age,just was little regard the hieracchy of top football clubs have towards hard work and loyalty. Someone at the club,it would appear,still wields enough power to be as ruthless as Cortese,but the question is..who is it? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

11:44am Tue 20 May 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Invidia wrote:
And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ?
Shaw can still be upset on a personal and emotional level (which by all accounts,he is),about these sackings without it effecting his attitude to a potential move away,but the point is,what effect will it have on his own personal loyalty to the club,as regards a move,when he see's at an impressionable age,just was little regard the hieracchy of top football clubs have towards hard work and loyalty.
Someone at the club,it would appear,still wields enough power to be as ruthless as Cortese,but the question is..who is it?
Les Read is in charge of all Football matters so will have the final say. This could well have been highlighted though in discussions with Pochettino on the future direction of the club. They have looked at the success of the Academy side and although the best U18s are playing in the U21s there is still a large squad of U18s to pick from.

Maybe Saints are looking to appoint a bigger name in charge of our U18s. George Prost was a hard act to follow...and he was responsible for making Lallana the player he is today. We could get in Eddie Howe to coach them under the tutor-age of MP with the view to being his successor.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ?[/p][/quote]Shaw can still be upset on a personal and emotional level (which by all accounts,he is),about these sackings without it effecting his attitude to a potential move away,but the point is,what effect will it have on his own personal loyalty to the club,as regards a move,when he see's at an impressionable age,just was little regard the hieracchy of top football clubs have towards hard work and loyalty. Someone at the club,it would appear,still wields enough power to be as ruthless as Cortese,but the question is..who is it?[/p][/quote]Les Read is in charge of all Football matters so will have the final say. This could well have been highlighted though in discussions with Pochettino on the future direction of the club. They have looked at the success of the Academy side and although the best U18s are playing in the U21s there is still a large squad of U18s to pick from. Maybe Saints are looking to appoint a bigger name in charge of our U18s. George Prost was a hard act to follow...and he was responsible for making Lallana the player he is today. We could get in Eddie Howe to coach them under the tutor-age of MP with the view to being his successor. allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: 2

11:52am Tue 20 May 14

shirley-bill says...

8.30 LAST NIGHT SKY SPORTS SAID THE SPURS ARE TALKING TO FRANK DE BOER , SO MAYBE THIS IS MP SORTING OUT THE PLAYING SIDE OF THE CLUB AND DOING IT HIS WAY.
8.30 LAST NIGHT SKY SPORTS SAID THE SPURS ARE TALKING TO FRANK DE BOER , SO MAYBE THIS IS MP SORTING OUT THE PLAYING SIDE OF THE CLUB AND DOING IT HIS WAY. shirley-bill
  • Score: 23

11:53am Tue 20 May 14

Positively4thStreet says...

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Invidia wrote:
And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ?
Shaw can still be upset on a personal and emotional level (which by all accounts,he is),about these sackings without it effecting his attitude to a potential move away,but the point is,what effect will it have on his own personal loyalty to the club,as regards a move,when he see's at an impressionable age,just was little regard the hieracchy of top football clubs have towards hard work and loyalty.
Someone at the club,it would appear,still wields enough power to be as ruthless as Cortese,but the question is..who is it?
Les Read is in charge of all Football matters so will have the final say. This could well have been highlighted though in discussions with Pochettino on the future direction of the club. They have looked at the success of the Academy side and although the best U18s are playing in the U21s there is still a large squad of U18s to pick from.

Maybe Saints are looking to appoint a bigger name in charge of our U18s. George Prost was a hard act to follow...and he was responsible for making Lallana the player he is today. We could get in Eddie Howe to coach them under the tutor-age of MP with the view to being his successor.
Well,if Pochettino did have a hand in it,then it is encouraging from that point of view,as it would seem a bit pointless for him to become involved,if his intention is to move,but nevertheless,still sad for two loyal servants,passionate to the cause of Saints.
[quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ?[/p][/quote]Shaw can still be upset on a personal and emotional level (which by all accounts,he is),about these sackings without it effecting his attitude to a potential move away,but the point is,what effect will it have on his own personal loyalty to the club,as regards a move,when he see's at an impressionable age,just was little regard the hieracchy of top football clubs have towards hard work and loyalty. Someone at the club,it would appear,still wields enough power to be as ruthless as Cortese,but the question is..who is it?[/p][/quote]Les Read is in charge of all Football matters so will have the final say. This could well have been highlighted though in discussions with Pochettino on the future direction of the club. They have looked at the success of the Academy side and although the best U18s are playing in the U21s there is still a large squad of U18s to pick from. Maybe Saints are looking to appoint a bigger name in charge of our U18s. George Prost was a hard act to follow...and he was responsible for making Lallana the player he is today. We could get in Eddie Howe to coach them under the tutor-age of MP with the view to being his successor.[/p][/quote]Well,if Pochettino did have a hand in it,then it is encouraging from that point of view,as it would seem a bit pointless for him to become involved,if his intention is to move,but nevertheless,still sad for two loyal servants,passionate to the cause of Saints. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 8

11:58am Tue 20 May 14

Mush On The Beach says...

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Well I have always thought that Saints have such a great Academy team why don't they compete better for the FA Youth trophy or winning the U18s or 21 leagues? I think we have fallen short of expectations for the last few years when we have had such as strong crop of youngsters.

This could be more an analysis of the setup by Les Read and Kruegar who have decided that we need to freshen up the coaches at Youth positions. The Southampton Way has to be to develop not only the best youngsters but the best coaches who could then progress up to manage the 1st team. Dodd was obviously deemed to be someway off this level and maybe more has been asked of Pochettino on this front so he can groom his own successor!
Because so many of our young players have been fast tracked into the first team squad over the last decade it has meant that whoever has been in charge of the youth team have rarely been able to pick our strongest team.. So you could say that Jason Dodd, Paul Williams and co have been victims of their own success..
whatever the reason for their departure lets wish them well.
COYR
Both of you two guy’s points are plausible. We are certainly victims of our own success as a club and now find ourselves having to fight off the hyenas. Always sad when one of our own is moved on, player or coach. Let’s hope the decision to let Dodd and Williams go is in the same light as why Adkins was released. I didn’t like it at the time, but it proved to be a shrewd decision in the longer term.
[quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: Well I have always thought that Saints have such a great Academy team why don't they compete better for the FA Youth trophy or winning the U18s or 21 leagues? I think we have fallen short of expectations for the last few years when we have had such as strong crop of youngsters. This could be more an analysis of the setup by Les Read and Kruegar who have decided that we need to freshen up the coaches at Youth positions. The Southampton Way has to be to develop not only the best youngsters but the best coaches who could then progress up to manage the 1st team. Dodd was obviously deemed to be someway off this level and maybe more has been asked of Pochettino on this front so he can groom his own successor![/p][/quote]Because so many of our young players have been fast tracked into the first team squad over the last decade it has meant that whoever has been in charge of the youth team[s] have rarely been able to pick our strongest team.. So you could say that Jason Dodd, Paul Williams and co have been victims of their own success.. whatever the reason for their departure lets wish them well. COYR[/p][/quote]Both of you two guy’s points are plausible. We are certainly victims of our own success as a club and now find ourselves having to fight off the hyenas. Always sad when one of our own is moved on, player or coach. Let’s hope the decision to let Dodd and Williams go is in the same light as why Adkins was released. I didn’t like it at the time, but it proved to be a shrewd decision in the longer term. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 8

12:02pm Tue 20 May 14

Invidia says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Invidia wrote:
And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ?
Shaw can still be upset on a personal and emotional level (which by all accounts,he is),about these sackings without it effecting his attitude to a potential move away,but the point is,what effect will it have on his own personal loyalty to the club,as regards a move,when he see's at an impressionable age,just was little regard the hieracchy of top football clubs have towards hard work and loyalty.
Someone at the club,it would appear,still wields enough power to be as ruthless as Cortese,but the question is..who is it?
My point was that the Mail's vendetta with the Saints is just more mischief making to unsettle our players and rattle the fans! if Luke was undecided as to whether to move this sort of headline will not help Saints, I am sure that they have taken out of context what Luke said
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ?[/p][/quote]Shaw can still be upset on a personal and emotional level (which by all accounts,he is),about these sackings without it effecting his attitude to a potential move away,but the point is,what effect will it have on his own personal loyalty to the club,as regards a move,when he see's at an impressionable age,just was little regard the hieracchy of top football clubs have towards hard work and loyalty. Someone at the club,it would appear,still wields enough power to be as ruthless as Cortese,but the question is..who is it?[/p][/quote]My point was that the Mail's vendetta with the Saints is just more mischief making to unsettle our players and rattle the fans! if Luke was undecided as to whether to move this sort of headline will not help Saints, I am sure that they have taken out of context what Luke said Invidia
  • Score: 4

12:12pm Tue 20 May 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Invidia wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Invidia wrote:
And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ?
Shaw can still be upset on a personal and emotional level (which by all accounts,he is),about these sackings without it effecting his attitude to a potential move away,but the point is,what effect will it have on his own personal loyalty to the club,as regards a move,when he see's at an impressionable age,just was little regard the hieracchy of top football clubs have towards hard work and loyalty.
Someone at the club,it would appear,still wields enough power to be as ruthless as Cortese,but the question is..who is it?
My point was that the Mail's vendetta with the Saints is just more mischief making to unsettle our players and rattle the fans! if Luke was undecided as to whether to move this sort of headline will not help Saints, I am sure that they have taken out of context what Luke said
It looks like the sackings have understandably upset Shaw,rather than what any newspaper has subsequently reported,in which case,the club has brought on any ensuing problems regarding his loyalty,by themselves.
As you say though,all the newspaper talk,is understandably upsetting us,the fans,but again,if the club is aware of this,then if they care,they should maybe consider making a further definitive statement,rather than just sacking people,without (as yet),any explanation.
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ?[/p][/quote]Shaw can still be upset on a personal and emotional level (which by all accounts,he is),about these sackings without it effecting his attitude to a potential move away,but the point is,what effect will it have on his own personal loyalty to the club,as regards a move,when he see's at an impressionable age,just was little regard the hieracchy of top football clubs have towards hard work and loyalty. Someone at the club,it would appear,still wields enough power to be as ruthless as Cortese,but the question is..who is it?[/p][/quote]My point was that the Mail's vendetta with the Saints is just more mischief making to unsettle our players and rattle the fans! if Luke was undecided as to whether to move this sort of headline will not help Saints, I am sure that they have taken out of context what Luke said[/p][/quote]It looks like the sackings have understandably upset Shaw,rather than what any newspaper has subsequently reported,in which case,the club has brought on any ensuing problems regarding his loyalty,by themselves. As you say though,all the newspaper talk,is understandably upsetting us,the fans,but again,if the club is aware of this,then if they care,they should maybe consider making a further definitive statement,rather than just sacking people,without (as yet),any explanation. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

12:12pm Tue 20 May 14

Santa65 says...

Hold on chaps. There's a lot of "loyalty" tosh being posted on here so a few facts - Doddsy was let go by the club in 2008 after Burley left. He's coached at Eastleigh and managed Aldershot on a caretaker basis before coming back to Saints. The fact he's moving on again has nothing to do with Saints being disloyal to him. It's football. Something positive is hopefully afoot!

Every thanks and best wish to Jason for all that he's done as a player, first team coach and U-18 coach. One day he may well be back with us but in the meantime I wish him the best of luck.
Hold on chaps. There's a lot of "loyalty" tosh being posted on here so a few facts - Doddsy was let go by the club in 2008 after Burley left. He's coached at Eastleigh and managed Aldershot on a caretaker basis before coming back to Saints. The fact he's moving on again has nothing to do with Saints being disloyal to him. It's football. Something positive is hopefully afoot! Every thanks and best wish to Jason for all that he's done as a player, first team coach and U-18 coach. One day he may well be back with us but in the meantime I wish him the best of luck. Santa65
  • Score: 18

12:12pm Tue 20 May 14

oil_beef_hooked says...

It has been 'reported' that their dismissals was due to 'not spending enough time with the Under 16 squad of players' and also their relationship with another coach, Martin Hunter, 'was unhealthy'
It has been 'reported' that their dismissals was due to 'not spending enough time with the Under 16 squad of players' and also their relationship with another coach, Martin Hunter, 'was unhealthy' oil_beef_hooked
  • Score: 2

12:20pm Tue 20 May 14

PTID1898 says...

So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny......
and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU
P
So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny...... and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU P PTID1898
  • Score: -55

12:24pm Tue 20 May 14

Santa65 says...

PTID1898 wrote:
So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny......
and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU

P
It's nice to have some foundations though, mate. And a squad of world class players, money pouring in, a proper stadium, a state-of-the-art training facility and a future. Good luck in Division 4 next season. And the one after that. And the one after that....COYR
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny...... and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU P[/p][/quote]It's nice to have some foundations though, mate. And a squad of world class players, money pouring in, a proper stadium, a state-of-the-art training facility and a future. Good luck in Division 4 next season. And the one after that. And the one after that....COYR Santa65
  • Score: 43

12:26pm Tue 20 May 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

shirley-bill wrote:
8.30 LAST NIGHT SKY SPORTS SAID THE SPURS ARE TALKING TO FRANK DE BOER , SO MAYBE THIS IS MP SORTING OUT THE PLAYING SIDE OF THE CLUB AND DOING IT HIS WAY.
Is that why Ronald de Boer was on talkSPORT this morning talking about his brother, Frank!?

Spurs haven't made contact for months...!!!

http://talksport.com
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[quote][p][bold]shirley-bill[/bold] wrote: 8.30 LAST NIGHT SKY SPORTS SAID THE SPURS ARE TALKING TO FRANK DE BOER , SO MAYBE THIS IS MP SORTING OUT THE PLAYING SIDE OF THE CLUB AND DOING IT HIS WAY.[/p][/quote]Is that why Ronald de Boer was on talkSPORT this morning talking about his brother, Frank!? Spurs haven't made contact for months...!!! http://talksport.com /football/exclusive- frank-de-boer-has-he ard-nothing-tottenha m-reveals-brother-ro nald-14052091930 SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: -5

12:35pm Tue 20 May 14

Mush On The Beach says...

PTID1898 wrote:
So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny......
and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU

P
In your dreams you wish skunt, trouble is for you we are always in your nightmares.
You are just a delusional fool with a club whose foundations are built on sand, that’s Arab with no money type sand. Chapter 4, a mild gust of Saharan wind blows you away to Division 4 never to be seen again, how funny ... THE END.
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny...... and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU P[/p][/quote]In your dreams you wish skunt, trouble is for you we are always in your nightmares. You are just a delusional fool with a club whose foundations are built on sand, that’s Arab with no money type sand. Chapter 4, a mild gust of Saharan wind blows you away to Division 4 never to be seen again, how funny ... THE END. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 15

12:48pm Tue 20 May 14

Mister E says...

WECOMING4U wrote:
Why do Saints seem intent on shooting themselves in the football boot? Ok if they want to move on with staff, try and do it properly at least.
Is the club about to go on a downward spiral again?
Anyway I can see Mo Po going, Eddie Howe coming in and a mass exodus of star players leaving but hey we will still be Southampton FC and that will always be the case. Players and staff come and go but true fans remain for ever.
What on earth leads you to suggest the club have not behaved properly?
Downward spiral, really? Based on what?
If they had done something wrong that warranted the sack, then that is the club being positive and behaving properly, surely?
If on the other hand their contracts were just terminated as the the club have plans/ambitions that they don't fit in with, well, that is sad but, again, that is the club being positive and behaving properly surely?
Are you really suggesting that all the club has achieved in the last few years was all (or mostly) down to these two individuals? That is surely what you must think if you feel this will start the downward spiral!
We don't know all the facts, the "facts" in the article may not be accurate, so, by all means speculate. When you find yourself leaping (and your suggestion is one hell of a leap) to conclusions, pause, and remember 2+2=4.
[quote][p][bold]WECOMING4U[/bold] wrote: Why do Saints seem intent on shooting themselves in the football boot? Ok if they want to move on with staff, try and do it properly at least. Is the club about to go on a downward spiral again? Anyway I can see Mo Po going, Eddie Howe coming in and a mass exodus of star players leaving but hey we will still be Southampton FC and that will always be the case. Players and staff come and go but true fans remain for ever.[/p][/quote]What on earth leads you to suggest the club have not behaved properly? Downward spiral, really? Based on what? If they had done something wrong that warranted the sack, then that is the club being positive and behaving properly, surely? If on the other hand their contracts were just terminated as the the club have plans/ambitions that they don't fit in with, well, that is sad but, again, that is the club being positive and behaving properly surely? Are you really suggesting that all the club has achieved in the last few years was all (or mostly) down to these two individuals? That is surely what you must think if you feel this will start the downward spiral! We don't know all the facts, the "facts" in the article may not be accurate, so, by all means speculate. When you find yourself leaping (and your suggestion is one hell of a leap) to conclusions, pause, and remember 2+2=4. Mister E
  • Score: 8

12:48pm Tue 20 May 14

BigBugBuzzz says...

I also considered Dodds as a potential Plan B...

But let's not discredit the board completely. There must have been a good reason for their decision. Here are some possibilities (my %):

1) Poch is staying, under the condition of full control
2) Doods and co. have not performed as coaches
3) Dood and co. have done something seriously wrong
4) Poch is leaving, with Doods and co. moving with him

I hope it is 1...
I also considered Dodds as a potential Plan B... But let's not discredit the board completely. There must have been a good reason for their decision. Here are some possibilities (my %): 1) Poch is staying, under the condition of full control 2) Doods and co. have not performed as coaches 3) Dood and co. have done something seriously wrong 4) Poch is leaving, with Doods and co. moving with him I hope it is 1... BigBugBuzzz
  • Score: -2

12:55pm Tue 20 May 14

Mister E says...

PTID1898 wrote:
So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny......
and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU

P
So, by your logic:
You managed to avoid relegation = Champions league football surely on it's way!
Moron.
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny...... and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU P[/p][/quote]So, by your logic: You managed to avoid relegation = Champions league football surely on it's way! Moron. Mister E
  • Score: 11

1:08pm Tue 20 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

PTID1898 wrote:
So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny......
and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU

P
HA HA HA HA HA HA!
I was wondering when you would turn up with your brilliantly thought out theories!
just remember not all clubs are run like yours was, in fact no club has been run like yours was because every other clubs owners actually exist!
don't go comparing how a properly run well funded decent club, that not only has an academy but promotes the youth they develop to the point where other clubs are willing to pay 10`s of millions for them, to how your shower have been run!
now swim along little fish the grown ups are talking football!
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny...... and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU P[/p][/quote]HA HA HA HA HA HA! I was wondering when you would turn up with your brilliantly thought out theories! just remember not all clubs are run like yours was, in fact no club has been run like yours was because every other clubs owners actually exist! don't go comparing how a properly run well funded decent club, that not only has an academy but promotes the youth they develop to the point where other clubs are willing to pay 10`s of millions for them, to how your shower have been run! now swim along little fish the grown ups are talking football! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 10

1:21pm Tue 20 May 14

Outside of the Box says...

Invidia wrote:
And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ?
How do you know Luke is furious, he tweeted ''Gutted for doddsy and Willo, helped me a lot in my development over the years, wish them all the best." oh but the Daily Mail says he is.

He's in Portugal with England just about to embark on a journey most players can only dream of ie The World Cup Finals and you think he's furious?

Behave and don't believe everything you read in the Daily Fail.
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ?[/p][/quote]How do you know Luke is furious, he tweeted ''Gutted for doddsy and Willo, helped me a lot in my development over the years, wish them all the best." oh but the Daily Mail says he is. He's in Portugal with England just about to embark on a journey most players can only dream of ie The World Cup Finals and you think he's furious? Behave and don't believe everything you read in the Daily Fail. Outside of the Box
  • Score: 9

1:30pm Tue 20 May 14

Lat Te Mis says...

PTID1898 wrote:
So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny...... and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU P
Dear sir,
Would you like me to forward some money for you to purchase some bait to go fishing, or would this effect your benefits?
Please could you let me as soon as you can,
Many thanks,
Take care.
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny...... and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU P[/p][/quote]Dear sir, Would you like me to forward some money for you to purchase some bait to go fishing, or would this effect your benefits? Please could you let me as soon as you can, Many thanks, Take care. Lat Te Mis
  • Score: 7

1:37pm Tue 20 May 14

Chipmonk1 says...

Wow!! For days on end I have read post after post wishing for MoPo to commit his future to Saints. This is the first positive sign that our hopes in that regard may just be fulfilled. Regardless of which even though Jason has been a loyal servant of the club but the fact of the matter is that the results just weren't good enough. And as for that piece of sh1t paper the mail goes, I doubt very much if Shaw was going that he could give 2 monkeys what happened at Saints. More to the point I actually think that if this is a sign that MoPo is staying then it is even more likely that Luke will stay as well given their clear bond.
Wow!! For days on end I have read post after post wishing for MoPo to commit his future to Saints. This is the first positive sign that our hopes in that regard may just be fulfilled. Regardless of which even though Jason has been a loyal servant of the club but the fact of the matter is that the results just weren't good enough. And as for that piece of sh1t paper the mail goes, I doubt very much if Shaw was going that he could give 2 monkeys what happened at Saints. More to the point I actually think that if this is a sign that MoPo is staying then it is even more likely that Luke will stay as well given their clear bond. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 5

1:58pm Tue 20 May 14

ItchenBridger says...

Thanks Jason, For the goal at the Archer's Road End at the Dell many moons ago. Running towards the ball and glancing it in from a corner. Ron Davies would have been proud of that one!
p.s. Martin Jol seen at Winchester Cathedral.
Thanks Jason, For the goal at the Archer's Road End at the Dell many moons ago. Running towards the ball and glancing it in from a corner. Ron Davies would have been proud of that one! p.s. Martin Jol seen at Winchester Cathedral. ItchenBridger
  • Score: 1

2:30pm Tue 20 May 14

Andover Saint says...

PTID1898 wrote:
So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny...... and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU P
A pompey fan talking about foundations haha heard it all now.
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny...... and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU P[/p][/quote]A pompey fan talking about foundations haha heard it all now. Andover Saint
  • Score: 14

2:44pm Tue 20 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Difficult to comment as it hasn't been officially announced on the OS, but if true I have to add my thanks for what these two have achieved, I can only think that the Club is looking to be even better in this department, so I will wait and see.
Difficult to comment as it hasn't been officially announced on the OS, but if true I have to add my thanks for what these two have achieved, I can only think that the Club is looking to be even better in this department, so I will wait and see. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

2:46pm Tue 20 May 14

Jonny7oma says...

I thought the U18's didn't produce that much this season. We finished 6th yes but out of 11. Even Readings U18's finished higher than us. Given the hype that's been surrounding the club over it's youth system, I'd say that was pretty mediocre. The fact that Dodd and Williams have gone would suggest that the new regime are looking for improvements all round. Either that or the forthcoming investmet will be so huge that we wont need to plant nippers in magic footballing growbags anymore and our enitire first team squad will consist of the cream of the four semi finalists of the world cup. This will be acheived via blackmail in the form of the threat of tampered urine samples should there be some initial resisitance to joining Southampton FC. Although I expect most to jump at the chance...... ha ha.....
I thought the U18's didn't produce that much this season. We finished 6th yes but out of 11. Even Readings U18's finished higher than us. Given the hype that's been surrounding the club over it's youth system, I'd say that was pretty mediocre. The fact that Dodd and Williams have gone would suggest that the new regime are looking for improvements all round. Either that or the forthcoming investmet will be so huge that we wont need to plant nippers in magic footballing growbags anymore and our enitire first team squad will consist of the cream of the four semi finalists of the world cup. This will be acheived via blackmail in the form of the threat of tampered urine samples should there be some initial resisitance to joining Southampton FC. Although I expect most to jump at the chance...... ha ha..... Jonny7oma
  • Score: 3

2:57pm Tue 20 May 14

Invidia says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
Invidia wrote:
And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ?
How do you know Luke is furious, he tweeted ''Gutted for doddsy and Willo, helped me a lot in my development over the years, wish them all the best." oh but the Daily Mail says he is.

He's in Portugal with England just about to embark on a journey most players can only dream of ie The World Cup Finals and you think he's furious?

Behave and don't believe everything you read in the Daily Fail.
I believe I have a stalker, always wanted one, get back in your box NOBED
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ?[/p][/quote]How do you know Luke is furious, he tweeted ''Gutted for doddsy and Willo, helped me a lot in my development over the years, wish them all the best." oh but the Daily Mail says he is. He's in Portugal with England just about to embark on a journey most players can only dream of ie The World Cup Finals and you think he's furious? Behave and don't believe everything you read in the Daily Fail.[/p][/quote]I believe I have a stalker, always wanted one, get back in your box NOBED Invidia
  • Score: -15

3:28pm Tue 20 May 14

promised land says...

PTID1898 wrote:
So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny......
and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU

P
It's because of decisions like this, we have become the best at producing a long list of players coming through the youth system.
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny...... and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU P[/p][/quote]It's because of decisions like this, we have become the best at producing a long list of players coming through the youth system. promised land
  • Score: 3

3:38pm Tue 20 May 14

miltonarcher says...

Surprised none of you have come to the right conclusion following this sacking. Do you not read the newspapers? Our entire first team squad is off to "bigger" clubs so next season we will have to play the under 18's in the Prem. No team for these two guys to manage, result, sacked!
Surprised none of you have come to the right conclusion following this sacking. Do you not read the newspapers? Our entire first team squad is off to "bigger" clubs so next season we will have to play the under 18's in the Prem. No team for these two guys to manage, result, sacked! miltonarcher
  • Score: 11

3:43pm Tue 20 May 14

Littleton-Saint says...

The good news is that the Skunts are skint in League 2 without any real hope!
The good news is that the Skunts are skint in League 2 without any real hope! Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 4

4:14pm Tue 20 May 14

Lat Te Mis says...

Invidia wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
Invidia wrote:
And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ?
How do you know Luke is furious, he tweeted ''Gutted for doddsy and Willo, helped me a lot in my development over the years, wish them all the best." oh but the Daily Mail says he is.

He's in Portugal with England just about to embark on a journey most players can only dream of ie The World Cup Finals and you think he's furious?

Behave and don't believe everything you read in the Daily Fail.
I believe I have a stalker, always wanted one, get back in your box NOBED
Harsh........
He's entitled to his own opinion on your assumption!
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ?[/p][/quote]How do you know Luke is furious, he tweeted ''Gutted for doddsy and Willo, helped me a lot in my development over the years, wish them all the best." oh but the Daily Mail says he is. He's in Portugal with England just about to embark on a journey most players can only dream of ie The World Cup Finals and you think he's furious? Behave and don't believe everything you read in the Daily Fail.[/p][/quote]I believe I have a stalker, always wanted one, get back in your box NOBED[/p][/quote]Harsh........ He's entitled to his own opinion on your assumption! Lat Te Mis
  • Score: 3

4:31pm Tue 20 May 14

Costa Baz says...

It could be something as simple as their somewhat rotund shapes, being considered unprofessional and due to an unhealthy eating/drinking life style, that is considered an unprofessional image/example, to present to the youngsters.
I mean, didn't Luke stop for a burger, on the way back from a game, the other day?
Clearly letting himself go! 😋😋😋
Won't go to Man Utd on a burger diet.

Or it could be due to a serious breach of rules/trust etc, or any number of reasons.
I've even seen a suggestion, on one website, that based on seeing JD's shopping trolley, at Romsey Waitrose, on one occasion ( making him an expert observer, obviously) JD was buying rather a lot of alcohol.
The observer did not clarify if it was Christmas, New Year etc, which might explain it.
Just assumed the worst, as so many others do, on these forums.
It could be something as simple as their somewhat rotund shapes, being considered unprofessional and due to an unhealthy eating/drinking life style, that is considered an unprofessional image/example, to present to the youngsters. I mean, didn't Luke stop for a burger, on the way back from a game, the other day? Clearly letting himself go! 😋😋😋 Won't go to Man Utd on a burger diet. Or it could be due to a serious breach of rules/trust etc, or any number of reasons. I've even seen a suggestion, on one website, that based on seeing JD's shopping trolley, at Romsey Waitrose, on one occasion ( making him an expert observer, obviously) JD was buying rather a lot of alcohol. The observer did not clarify if it was Christmas, New Year etc, which might explain it. Just assumed the worst, as so many others do, on these forums. Costa Baz
  • Score: -1

4:32pm Tue 20 May 14

Invidia says...

Well L.T.(mis) are you his daughter or something if so does stalking run in the family
Well L.T.(mis) are you his daughter or something if so does stalking run in the family Invidia
  • Score: -7

4:48pm Tue 20 May 14

Lat Te Mis says...

Invidia wrote:
Well L.T.(mis) are you his daughter or something if so does stalking run in the family
If you take the first let
..... Can't be bothered
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: Well L.T.(mis) are you his daughter or something if so does stalking run in the family[/p][/quote]If you take the first let ..... Can't be bothered Lat Te Mis
  • Score: 3

4:48pm Tue 20 May 14

Costa Baz says...

Don't know if mentioned elsewhere, but an interview with Cortese, will be on BBC website tomorrow.

Hope the board has some good news ready to counter what could be destructive PR.
Don't know if mentioned elsewhere, but an interview with Cortese, will be on BBC website tomorrow. Hope the board has some good news ready to counter what could be destructive PR. Costa Baz
  • Score: 1

4:52pm Tue 20 May 14

M Clarke says...

WECOMING4U wrote:
Why do Saints seem intent on shooting themselves in the football boot? Ok if they want to move on with staff, try and do it properly at least.
Is the club about to go on a downward spiral again?
Anyway I can see Mo Po going, Eddie Howe coming in and a mass exodus of star players leaving but hey we will still be Southampton FC and that will always be the case. Players and staff come and go but true fans remain for ever.
If mo Po does go I think Eddie Howe would be good fit for Saints but don't think there will be exodus of players. Nice to hear something from this Board
[quote][p][bold]WECOMING4U[/bold] wrote: Why do Saints seem intent on shooting themselves in the football boot? Ok if they want to move on with staff, try and do it properly at least. Is the club about to go on a downward spiral again? Anyway I can see Mo Po going, Eddie Howe coming in and a mass exodus of star players leaving but hey we will still be Southampton FC and that will always be the case. Players and staff come and go but true fans remain for ever.[/p][/quote]If mo Po does go I think Eddie Howe would be good fit for Saints but don't think there will be exodus of players. Nice to hear something from this Board M Clarke
  • Score: -5

5:20pm Tue 20 May 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
Invidia wrote:
And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ?
How do you know Luke is furious, he tweeted ''Gutted for doddsy and Willo, helped me a lot in my development over the years, wish them all the best." oh but the Daily Mail says he is.

He's in Portugal with England just about to embark on a journey most players can only dream of ie The World Cup Finals and you think he's furious?

Behave and don't believe everything you read in the Daily Fail.
Good post, but I would use the word "anything" instead of "everything."
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: And there was some people saying that NC was ruthless, according to the "Mail online they say that Luke Shaw is furious about these sackings" if as they have been saying that LS signing for MU is a done deal what does it matter to Luke what Saints management do to their staff ?[/p][/quote]How do you know Luke is furious, he tweeted ''Gutted for doddsy and Willo, helped me a lot in my development over the years, wish them all the best." oh but the Daily Mail says he is. He's in Portugal with England just about to embark on a journey most players can only dream of ie The World Cup Finals and you think he's furious? Behave and don't believe everything you read in the Daily Fail.[/p][/quote]Good post, but I would use the word "anything" instead of "everything." Jan28th1984
  • Score: 1

5:21pm Tue 20 May 14

saintpeter63 says...

PTID1898 wrote:
So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny......
and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU

P
mmmmm small change pennies
sad in it
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny...... and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU P[/p][/quote]mmmmm small change pennies sad in it saintpeter63
  • Score: 5

5:48pm Tue 20 May 14

Stnana says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Don't know if mentioned elsewhere, but an interview with Cortese, will be on BBC website tomorrow.

Hope the board has some good news ready to counter what could be destructive PR.
Will be on Radio Solent too. All over Twitter most think it will be explosive ! Agree with you Baz hope the board can release some good news.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: Don't know if mentioned elsewhere, but an interview with Cortese, will be on BBC website tomorrow. Hope the board has some good news ready to counter what could be destructive PR.[/p][/quote]Will be on Radio Solent too. All over Twitter most think it will be explosive ! Agree with you Baz hope the board can release some good news. Stnana
  • Score: -1

5:49pm Tue 20 May 14

upwherewebelong says...

The "board" if we are calling them that still are really worrying me now. It has all the hallmarks of asset stripping and wage bill cutting before a sale. Krueger came in and promised a new era of open communication well sadly I am yet to see evidence of this, Before the Saints can do no wrong brigade come on and give me a hard time I don't like being disappointed and worried about the club but I post comments like this because unlike some in positions of responsibility I truly care about the club. There is a massive difference in saying you care and actually showing you care, My honest perception of Krueger is it's just a job to him.

We have a really worrying summer ahead as we are seemingly the victims of a well orchestrated concerted hate filled media campaign to unsettle the players, manager etc and even the Echo in my opinion has a massively anti Saints stance and the board don't seem to be bothered about the stability of the club.
The "board" if we are calling them that still are really worrying me now. It has all the hallmarks of asset stripping and wage bill cutting before a sale. Krueger came in and promised a new era of open communication well sadly I am yet to see evidence of this, Before the Saints can do no wrong brigade come on and give me a hard time I don't like being disappointed and worried about the club but I post comments like this because unlike some in positions of responsibility I truly care about the club. There is a massive difference in saying you care and actually showing you care, My honest perception of Krueger is it's just a job to him. We have a really worrying summer ahead as we are seemingly the victims of a well orchestrated concerted hate filled media campaign to unsettle the players, manager etc and even the Echo in my opinion has a massively anti Saints stance and the board don't seem to be bothered about the stability of the club. upwherewebelong
  • Score: -1

5:55pm Tue 20 May 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

Did anyone hear J Rod's interview on talk sport?
I missed it, come on echo can you cut and paste off the radio?
Did anyone hear J Rod's interview on talk sport? I missed it, come on echo can you cut and paste off the radio? worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: -1

6:04pm Tue 20 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Don't know if mentioned elsewhere, but an interview with Cortese, will be on BBC website tomorrow.

Hope the board has some good news ready to counter what could be destructive PR.
should be an interesting read although I doubt he will say too much about his departure apart from `I was left with no option but to leave` or `I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for that meddling kat!` ;0)

perhaps the club learnt that he was doing an interview and are holding back the `positive` news to take the headlines away from him, we can but hope.

on a different point,
twitter s so much fun, apparently arsenil, diverpool and manure fans don't think spider is good enough for their clubs because he doesn't play week in week out or a full 90mins and is often dropped! just shows how much the fans of the so called `big` clubs know about other teams in the prem and football in general! well don't worry us saints fans are more than happy to keep spider! oh and luke, lalla, dejan, j-rod and chambers rarely play for us and are just good bench warmers so you don't need to worry about them either. I`m also sure that dodd and Williams were the real men behind our recent style and form and MP is just a `front man` (just in case anyone from spuds is reading!)
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: Don't know if mentioned elsewhere, but an interview with Cortese, will be on BBC website tomorrow. Hope the board has some good news ready to counter what could be destructive PR.[/p][/quote]should be an interesting read although I doubt he will say too much about his departure apart from `I was left with no option but to leave` or `I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for that meddling kat!` ;0) perhaps the club learnt that he was doing an interview and are holding back the `positive` news to take the headlines away from him, we can but hope. on a different point, twitter s so much fun, apparently arsenil, diverpool and manure fans don't think spider is good enough for their clubs because he doesn't play week in week out or a full 90mins and is often dropped! just shows how much the fans of the so called `big` clubs know about other teams in the prem and football in general! well don't worry us saints fans are more than happy to keep spider! oh and luke, lalla, dejan, j-rod and chambers rarely play for us and are just good bench warmers so you don't need to worry about them either. I`m also sure that dodd and Williams were the real men behind our recent style and form and MP is just a `front man` (just in case anyone from spuds is reading!) el caballo santos101
  • Score: -1

6:22pm Tue 20 May 14

Clever Dick says...

PTID1898 wrote:
So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny......
and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU

P
Yeah well we all look forward to your jealousy fuelled rants about the fortunes of our club. Presumably you have the goldfish-like memory of the normal skunt and can't remember that every one of your predictions for last season failed to come true. Even if we were to sign this lad from Swansea and sell Luke we would still have an international full back and a profit of £26 million. I realise that as a skunt you never get to watch any decent football but maybe that's just as well as you clearly know zilch about the game. There are actually quite a few decent players in sides below us in the Prem but again what would you know. There's not a decent player in your side. That's just another reason why you are known as the laughing stock of football.
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny...... and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU P[/p][/quote]Yeah well we all look forward to your jealousy fuelled rants about the fortunes of our club. Presumably you have the goldfish-like memory of the normal skunt and can't remember that every one of your predictions for last season failed to come true. Even if we were to sign this lad from Swansea and sell Luke we would still have an international full back and a profit of £26 million. I realise that as a skunt you never get to watch any decent football but maybe that's just as well as you clearly know zilch about the game. There are actually quite a few decent players in sides below us in the Prem but again what would you know. There's not a decent player in your side. That's just another reason why you are known as the laughing stock of football. Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

6:28pm Tue 20 May 14

Lat Te Mis says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Don't know if mentioned elsewhere, but an interview with Cortese, will be on BBC website tomorrow.

Hope the board has some good news ready to counter what could be destructive PR.
should be an interesting read although I doubt he will say too much about his departure apart from `I was left with no option but to leave` or `I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for that meddling kat!` ;0)

perhaps the club learnt that he was doing an interview and are holding back the `positive` news to take the headlines away from him, we can but hope.

on a different point,
twitter s so much fun, apparently arsenil, diverpool and manure fans don't think spider is good enough for their clubs because he doesn't play week in week out or a full 90mins and is often dropped! just shows how much the fans of the so called `big` clubs know about other teams in the prem and football in general! well don't worry us saints fans are more than happy to keep spider! oh and luke, lalla, dejan, j-rod and chambers rarely play for us and are just good bench warmers so you don't need to worry about them either. I`m also sure that dodd and Williams were the real men behind our recent style and form and MP is just a `front man` (just in case anyone from spuds is reading!)
Hey Santos,
You forget... (I know why you did) Jack Cork only came on against Arsenil in the 90th min at home to "delay time" ALL through the season!!!
Tut tut, call yourself a SAINT!
COYRAWA
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: Don't know if mentioned elsewhere, but an interview with Cortese, will be on BBC website tomorrow. Hope the board has some good news ready to counter what could be destructive PR.[/p][/quote]should be an interesting read although I doubt he will say too much about his departure apart from `I was left with no option but to leave` or `I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for that meddling kat!` ;0) perhaps the club learnt that he was doing an interview and are holding back the `positive` news to take the headlines away from him, we can but hope. on a different point, twitter s so much fun, apparently arsenil, diverpool and manure fans don't think spider is good enough for their clubs because he doesn't play week in week out or a full 90mins and is often dropped! just shows how much the fans of the so called `big` clubs know about other teams in the prem and football in general! well don't worry us saints fans are more than happy to keep spider! oh and luke, lalla, dejan, j-rod and chambers rarely play for us and are just good bench warmers so you don't need to worry about them either. I`m also sure that dodd and Williams were the real men behind our recent style and form and MP is just a `front man` (just in case anyone from spuds is reading!)[/p][/quote]Hey Santos, You forget... (I know why you did) Jack Cork only came on against Arsenil in the 90th min at home to "delay time" ALL through the season!!! Tut tut, call yourself a SAINT! COYRAWA Lat Te Mis
  • Score: 0

6:29pm Tue 20 May 14

Clever Dick says...

upwherewebelong wrote:
The "board" if we are calling them that still are really worrying me now. It has all the hallmarks of asset stripping and wage bill cutting before a sale. Krueger came in and promised a new era of open communication well sadly I am yet to see evidence of this, Before the Saints can do no wrong brigade come on and give me a hard time I don't like being disappointed and worried about the club but I post comments like this because unlike some in positions of responsibility I truly care about the club. There is a massive difference in saying you care and actually showing you care, My honest perception of Krueger is it's just a job to him.

We have a really worrying summer ahead as we are seemingly the victims of a well orchestrated concerted hate filled media campaign to unsettle the players, manager etc and even the Echo in my opinion has a massively anti Saints stance and the board don't seem to be bothered about the stability of the club.
Three questions.
1 who is our current manager?
2 who is our current captain?
3 who is our current first choice left back?
You are worrying about things that may never happen.
Try lightening up a bit and have the odd positive thought for a change.
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: The "board" if we are calling them that still are really worrying me now. It has all the hallmarks of asset stripping and wage bill cutting before a sale. Krueger came in and promised a new era of open communication well sadly I am yet to see evidence of this, Before the Saints can do no wrong brigade come on and give me a hard time I don't like being disappointed and worried about the club but I post comments like this because unlike some in positions of responsibility I truly care about the club. There is a massive difference in saying you care and actually showing you care, My honest perception of Krueger is it's just a job to him. We have a really worrying summer ahead as we are seemingly the victims of a well orchestrated concerted hate filled media campaign to unsettle the players, manager etc and even the Echo in my opinion has a massively anti Saints stance and the board don't seem to be bothered about the stability of the club.[/p][/quote]Three questions. 1 who is our current manager? 2 who is our current captain? 3 who is our current first choice left back? You are worrying about things that may never happen. Try lightening up a bit and have the odd positive thought for a change. Clever Dick
  • Score: 0

6:29pm Tue 20 May 14

The Inbetweener says...

My initial thoughts were that perhaps Doddsy & Willo couldn't agree with the Club about the young players that they wanted to keep and those they wanted to let go. Is it really wise of Luke to be tweeting about things going on at the Club when he is supposed to be in Portugal concentrating on representing England in the World Cup. I thought Roy had stated that he didn't want any transfer distractions etc. whilst the players were away on World Cup duty. It is just the same old media vendetta against Saints - perhaps Cortese is stoking the Daily Mail fires?
Costz Baz where did you hear about the Cortese interview? Surely he would have signed a privacy agreement before he left Saints stopping him from talking about confidential matters relating to the Club, as part of his pay off? Do you think Cortese is deliberately trying to unsettle Poch and stir things up?
Cortese earnt my respect for the tough decisions he took as part of our last 5 years journey and I just hope he isn't intent on destroying the good work he started by acting like a jealous school kid.
My initial thoughts were that perhaps Doddsy & Willo couldn't agree with the Club about the young players that they wanted to keep and those they wanted to let go. Is it really wise of Luke to be tweeting about things going on at the Club when he is supposed to be in Portugal concentrating on representing England in the World Cup. I thought Roy had stated that he didn't want any transfer distractions etc. whilst the players were away on World Cup duty. It is just the same old media vendetta against Saints - perhaps Cortese is stoking the Daily Mail fires? Costz Baz where did you hear about the Cortese interview? Surely he would have signed a privacy agreement before he left Saints stopping him from talking about confidential matters relating to the Club, as part of his pay off? Do you think Cortese is deliberately trying to unsettle Poch and stir things up? Cortese earnt my respect for the tough decisions he took as part of our last 5 years journey and I just hope he isn't intent on destroying the good work he started by acting like a jealous school kid. The Inbetweener
  • Score: 0

6:33pm Tue 20 May 14

milton road says...

Whilst Les is in charge of football matters MP is the guy who calls the tune on what happens with the squads and players. Whilst it is diplomatic to say MP is not involved in this decision, it seems a strange decision to make it at this moment in time witho0ut MP's agreement if they want him to stay. So maybe there is something positive.
The Guardian are busy selling all our players and have made a big thing of Shaw's comments also that Morgan wants to leave. They have for weeks come out with all sorts of stories and fambricated nonsense and the media are all feeding off each other and nowhere do you see qouates from any player saying they want to leave.
No this is not the breakdown of the club they have apparantly made Poch an offer that will equal or better anything another club will give. So hardly asset stripping.
Whilst Les is in charge of football matters MP is the guy who calls the tune on what happens with the squads and players. Whilst it is diplomatic to say MP is not involved in this decision, it seems a strange decision to make it at this moment in time witho0ut MP's agreement if they want him to stay. So maybe there is something positive. The Guardian are busy selling all our players and have made a big thing of Shaw's comments also that Morgan wants to leave. They have for weeks come out with all sorts of stories and fambricated nonsense and the media are all feeding off each other and nowhere do you see qouates from any player saying they want to leave. No this is not the breakdown of the club they have apparantly made Poch an offer that will equal or better anything another club will give. So hardly asset stripping. milton road
  • Score: 0

6:36pm Tue 20 May 14

Stnana says...

The Inbetweener wrote:
My initial thoughts were that perhaps Doddsy & Willo couldn't agree with the Club about the young players that they wanted to keep and those they wanted to let go. Is it really wise of Luke to be tweeting about things going on at the Club when he is supposed to be in Portugal concentrating on representing England in the World Cup. I thought Roy had stated that he didn't want any transfer distractions etc. whilst the players were away on World Cup duty. It is just the same old media vendetta against Saints - perhaps Cortese is stoking the Daily Mail fires?
Costz Baz where did you hear about the Cortese interview? Surely he would have signed a privacy agreement before he left Saints stopping him from talking about confidential matters relating to the Club, as part of his pay off? Do you think Cortese is deliberately trying to unsettle Poch and stir things up?
Cortese earnt my respect for the tough decisions he took as part of our last 5 years journey and I just hope he isn't intent on destroying the good work he started by acting like a jealous school kid.
Radio Solent tweeted it .
[quote][p][bold]The Inbetweener[/bold] wrote: My initial thoughts were that perhaps Doddsy & Willo couldn't agree with the Club about the young players that they wanted to keep and those they wanted to let go. Is it really wise of Luke to be tweeting about things going on at the Club when he is supposed to be in Portugal concentrating on representing England in the World Cup. I thought Roy had stated that he didn't want any transfer distractions etc. whilst the players were away on World Cup duty. It is just the same old media vendetta against Saints - perhaps Cortese is stoking the Daily Mail fires? Costz Baz where did you hear about the Cortese interview? Surely he would have signed a privacy agreement before he left Saints stopping him from talking about confidential matters relating to the Club, as part of his pay off? Do you think Cortese is deliberately trying to unsettle Poch and stir things up? Cortese earnt my respect for the tough decisions he took as part of our last 5 years journey and I just hope he isn't intent on destroying the good work he started by acting like a jealous school kid.[/p][/quote]Radio Solent tweeted it . Stnana
  • Score: -1

6:43pm Tue 20 May 14

sisaydo1 says...

Ronald, like his brother a former star of the Dutch football team and currently working as a youth team coach at Ajax, said: “Our technical director Marc Overmars told the press that Totenham asked about Frank’s contract but that was months ago and nothing has happened since then.

So Ronald is working as Youth Team Coach at Ajax! could this be a clue???
Could the De Boer brothers be heading to St Mary's?

You heard it hear first x
Ronald, like his brother a former star of the Dutch football team and currently working as a youth team coach at Ajax, said: “Our technical director Marc Overmars told the press that Totenham asked about Frank’s contract but that was months ago and nothing has happened since then. So Ronald is working as Youth Team Coach at Ajax! could this be a clue??? Could the De Boer brothers be heading to St Mary's? You heard it hear first x sisaydo1
  • Score: -2

6:44pm Tue 20 May 14

sisaydo1 says...

*Here ;)
*Here ;) sisaydo1
  • Score: -3

6:57pm Tue 20 May 14

Reality-man says...

redandy10 wrote:
Sad news!

I still remember Doody's excellent dispaly against Liverpool at the Dell when we beat them 4-1. I think it was around 1989 or 1990. A loyal servant to the club and a genuinely nice chap.

Good luck Jason!
Yes, that was his full debut. He marked John Barnes out of the game.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: Sad news! I still remember Doody's excellent dispaly against Liverpool at the Dell when we beat them 4-1. I think it was around 1989 or 1990. A loyal servant to the club and a genuinely nice chap. Good luck Jason![/p][/quote]Yes, that was his full debut. He marked John Barnes out of the game. Reality-man
  • Score: -1

7:06pm Tue 20 May 14

upwherewebelong says...

Clever Dick wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
The "board" if we are calling them that still are really worrying me now. It has all the hallmarks of asset stripping and wage bill cutting before a sale. Krueger came in and promised a new era of open communication well sadly I am yet to see evidence of this, Before the Saints can do no wrong brigade come on and give me a hard time I don't like being disappointed and worried about the club but I post comments like this because unlike some in positions of responsibility I truly care about the club. There is a massive difference in saying you care and actually showing you care, My honest perception of Krueger is it's just a job to him.

We have a really worrying summer ahead as we are seemingly the victims of a well orchestrated concerted hate filled media campaign to unsettle the players, manager etc and even the Echo in my opinion has a massively anti Saints stance and the board don't seem to be bothered about the stability of the club.
Three questions.
1 who is our current manager?
2 who is our current captain?
3 who is our current first choice left back?
You are worrying about things that may never happen.
Try lightening up a bit and have the odd positive thought for a change.
Yes you are right that I am worrying about things that might never happen BUT just in case you didn't read the whole of my post it isn't about me needing to "lighten up" as you put it. It's about me caring passionately that the club build on the season we've just had. Surely you'd agree there is nothing wrong with having that desire. I think you need to avoid personal insults about lightening up particularly as you know NOTHING about me. Do you not agree that the club could so easily put most of this speculation to bed by releasing a more strongly worded press release as clearly Les Reeds didn't get through to the idiotic journalists. Or by fulfilling what Krueger said about a culture of openness which isn't yet being delivered.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: The "board" if we are calling them that still are really worrying me now. It has all the hallmarks of asset stripping and wage bill cutting before a sale. Krueger came in and promised a new era of open communication well sadly I am yet to see evidence of this, Before the Saints can do no wrong brigade come on and give me a hard time I don't like being disappointed and worried about the club but I post comments like this because unlike some in positions of responsibility I truly care about the club. There is a massive difference in saying you care and actually showing you care, My honest perception of Krueger is it's just a job to him. We have a really worrying summer ahead as we are seemingly the victims of a well orchestrated concerted hate filled media campaign to unsettle the players, manager etc and even the Echo in my opinion has a massively anti Saints stance and the board don't seem to be bothered about the stability of the club.[/p][/quote]Three questions. 1 who is our current manager? 2 who is our current captain? 3 who is our current first choice left back? You are worrying about things that may never happen. Try lightening up a bit and have the odd positive thought for a change.[/p][/quote]Yes you are right that I am worrying about things that might never happen BUT just in case you didn't read the whole of my post it isn't about me needing to "lighten up" as you put it. It's about me caring passionately that the club build on the season we've just had. Surely you'd agree there is nothing wrong with having that desire. I think you need to avoid personal insults about lightening up particularly as you know NOTHING about me. Do you not agree that the club could so easily put most of this speculation to bed by releasing a more strongly worded press release as clearly Les Reeds didn't get through to the idiotic journalists. Or by fulfilling what Krueger said about a culture of openness which isn't yet being delivered. upwherewebelong
  • Score: -4

7:24pm Tue 20 May 14

Bingo from Sholing says...

It is good to see some sharpness returning to key decision processes. This sharpness has been lacking since NC departed. There is little room for sentiment alone. MP and the players are ambitious so if we are to keep them lets not look backward to the averagely "good old days".
It is good to see some sharpness returning to key decision processes. This sharpness has been lacking since NC departed. There is little room for sentiment alone. MP and the players are ambitious so if we are to keep them lets not look backward to the averagely "good old days". Bingo from Sholing
  • Score: 2

7:42pm Tue 20 May 14

Costa Baz says...

sisaydo1 wrote:
Ronald, like his brother a former star of the Dutch football team and currently working as a youth team coach at Ajax, said: “Our technical director Marc Overmars told the press that Totenham asked about Frank’s contract but that was months ago and nothing has happened since then.

So Ronald is working as Youth Team Coach at Ajax! could this be a clue???
Could the De Boer brothers be heading to St Mary's?

You heard it hear first x
That actually makes sense.
And, if MP is still reluctant to extend his contract, what better replacement than someone who has played at the highest level, and managed in the Champions League?
He would also, potentially, have that "wow" factor that would stop players walking away.

I like this.
[quote][p][bold]sisaydo1[/bold] wrote: Ronald, like his brother a former star of the Dutch football team and currently working as a youth team coach at Ajax, said: “Our technical director Marc Overmars told the press that Totenham asked about Frank’s contract but that was months ago and nothing has happened since then. So Ronald is working as Youth Team Coach at Ajax! could this be a clue??? Could the De Boer brothers be heading to St Mary's? You heard it hear first x[/p][/quote]That actually makes sense. And, if MP is still reluctant to extend his contract, what better replacement than someone who has played at the highest level, and managed in the Champions League? He would also, potentially, have that "wow" factor that would stop players walking away. I like this. Costa Baz
  • Score: -3

7:47pm Tue 20 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
Did anyone hear J Rod's interview on talk sport?
I missed it, come on echo can you cut and paste off the radio?
http://www.not606.co
m/showthread.php/263
293-Jay-Rodriguez-In
terview-with-TALKSPO
RT
[quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: Did anyone hear J Rod's interview on talk sport? I missed it, come on echo can you cut and paste off the radio?[/p][/quote]http://www.not606.co m/showthread.php/263 293-Jay-Rodriguez-In terview-with-TALKSPO RT OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

7:54pm Tue 20 May 14

Clever Dick says...

upwherewebelong wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
The "board" if we are calling them that still are really worrying me now. It has all the hallmarks of asset stripping and wage bill cutting before a sale. Krueger came in and promised a new era of open communication well sadly I am yet to see evidence of this, Before the Saints can do no wrong brigade come on and give me a hard time I don't like being disappointed and worried about the club but I post comments like this because unlike some in positions of responsibility I truly care about the club. There is a massive difference in saying you care and actually showing you care, My honest perception of Krueger is it's just a job to him.

We have a really worrying summer ahead as we are seemingly the victims of a well orchestrated concerted hate filled media campaign to unsettle the players, manager etc and even the Echo in my opinion has a massively anti Saints stance and the board don't seem to be bothered about the stability of the club.
Three questions.
1 who is our current manager?
2 who is our current captain?
3 who is our current first choice left back?
You are worrying about things that may never happen.
Try lightening up a bit and have the odd positive thought for a change.
Yes you are right that I am worrying about things that might never happen BUT just in case you didn't read the whole of my post it isn't about me needing to "lighten up" as you put it. It's about me caring passionately that the club build on the season we've just had. Surely you'd agree there is nothing wrong with having that desire. I think you need to avoid personal insults about lightening up particularly as you know NOTHING about me. Do you not agree that the club could so easily put most of this speculation to bed by releasing a more strongly worded press release as clearly Les Reeds didn't get through to the idiotic journalists. Or by fulfilling what Krueger said about a culture of openness which isn't yet being delivered.
I personally wouldn't describe being advised to lighten up as a personal insult. In case you hadn't noticed most of us on this site are passionate about the club, that's why we are on here posting. Perhaps RK in his short time at the club has realised that being open and honest in this country simply doesn't work . The press ,particularly the Mail, has an agenda which doesn't require any stories to be anywhere near the truth. All of this anti Saints rubbish is causing all sorts of panic and nonsensical comments from Saints fans. The plain fact is that Katharina is now taking the reins of her father's legacy and in so doing has appointed RK as the best man to do that. Does anybody really think she has done this in order to asset strip and tear the club apart bit by bit.If that's what she is doing she couldn't have thought much of her father could she. So anyway sorry if you regard my comment as a personal insult. It wasn't. It would just be nice to have a bit more positivity instead of the constant panic over what is nothing more than press speculation.
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: The "board" if we are calling them that still are really worrying me now. It has all the hallmarks of asset stripping and wage bill cutting before a sale. Krueger came in and promised a new era of open communication well sadly I am yet to see evidence of this, Before the Saints can do no wrong brigade come on and give me a hard time I don't like being disappointed and worried about the club but I post comments like this because unlike some in positions of responsibility I truly care about the club. There is a massive difference in saying you care and actually showing you care, My honest perception of Krueger is it's just a job to him. We have a really worrying summer ahead as we are seemingly the victims of a well orchestrated concerted hate filled media campaign to unsettle the players, manager etc and even the Echo in my opinion has a massively anti Saints stance and the board don't seem to be bothered about the stability of the club.[/p][/quote]Three questions. 1 who is our current manager? 2 who is our current captain? 3 who is our current first choice left back? You are worrying about things that may never happen. Try lightening up a bit and have the odd positive thought for a change.[/p][/quote]Yes you are right that I am worrying about things that might never happen BUT just in case you didn't read the whole of my post it isn't about me needing to "lighten up" as you put it. It's about me caring passionately that the club build on the season we've just had. Surely you'd agree there is nothing wrong with having that desire. I think you need to avoid personal insults about lightening up particularly as you know NOTHING about me. Do you not agree that the club could so easily put most of this speculation to bed by releasing a more strongly worded press release as clearly Les Reeds didn't get through to the idiotic journalists. Or by fulfilling what Krueger said about a culture of openness which isn't yet being delivered.[/p][/quote]I personally wouldn't describe being advised to lighten up as a personal insult. In case you hadn't noticed most of us on this site are passionate about the club, that's why we are on here posting. Perhaps RK in his short time at the club has realised that being open and honest in this country simply doesn't work . The press ,particularly the Mail, has an agenda which doesn't require any stories to be anywhere near the truth. All of this anti Saints rubbish is causing all sorts of panic and nonsensical comments from Saints fans. The plain fact is that Katharina is now taking the reins of her father's legacy and in so doing has appointed RK as the best man to do that. Does anybody really think she has done this in order to asset strip and tear the club apart bit by bit.If that's what she is doing she couldn't have thought much of her father could she. So anyway sorry if you regard my comment as a personal insult. It wasn't. It would just be nice to have a bit more positivity instead of the constant panic over what is nothing more than press speculation. Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

8:20pm Tue 20 May 14

upwherewebelong says...

Clever Dick wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
The "board" if we are calling them that still are really worrying me now. It has all the hallmarks of asset stripping and wage bill cutting before a sale. Krueger came in and promised a new era of open communication well sadly I am yet to see evidence of this, Before the Saints can do no wrong brigade come on and give me a hard time I don't like being disappointed and worried about the club but I post comments like this because unlike some in positions of responsibility I truly care about the club. There is a massive difference in saying you care and actually showing you care, My honest perception of Krueger is it's just a job to him.

We have a really worrying summer ahead as we are seemingly the victims of a well orchestrated concerted hate filled media campaign to unsettle the players, manager etc and even the Echo in my opinion has a massively anti Saints stance and the board don't seem to be bothered about the stability of the club.
Three questions.
1 who is our current manager?
2 who is our current captain?
3 who is our current first choice left back?
You are worrying about things that may never happen.
Try lightening up a bit and have the odd positive thought for a change.
Yes you are right that I am worrying about things that might never happen BUT just in case you didn't read the whole of my post it isn't about me needing to "lighten up" as you put it. It's about me caring passionately that the club build on the season we've just had. Surely you'd agree there is nothing wrong with having that desire. I think you need to avoid personal insults about lightening up particularly as you know NOTHING about me. Do you not agree that the club could so easily put most of this speculation to bed by releasing a more strongly worded press release as clearly Les Reeds didn't get through to the idiotic journalists. Or by fulfilling what Krueger said about a culture of openness which isn't yet being delivered.
I personally wouldn't describe being advised to lighten up as a personal insult. In case you hadn't noticed most of us on this site are passionate about the club, that's why we are on here posting. Perhaps RK in his short time at the club has realised that being open and honest in this country simply doesn't work . The press ,particularly the Mail, has an agenda which doesn't require any stories to be anywhere near the truth. All of this anti Saints rubbish is causing all sorts of panic and nonsensical comments from Saints fans. The plain fact is that Katharina is now taking the reins of her father's legacy and in so doing has appointed RK as the best man to do that. Does anybody really think she has done this in order to asset strip and tear the club apart bit by bit.If that's what she is doing she couldn't have thought much of her father could she. So anyway sorry if you regard my comment as a personal insult. It wasn't. It would just be nice to have a bit more positivity instead of the constant panic over what is nothing more than press speculation.
I agree with much of what you say we just appear to express it differently you are clearly able to be positive about the speculation in that no news = good news whereas I want the club to be more pro-active against the campaign against us. I know this is never going to happen but a press release worded along the lines of

" we at Southampton Football Club have noticed a sustained media campaign to destabilise the players and management team. Can we put it on record that the media HAVE NOT AND WILL NEVER control the transfer strategy of Southampton Football club. May we put it on record that no player will be sold to ANY club unless Southampton FC feel it is beneficial to the club to do so" and maybe add a bit about Agents and former employees as well just to be absolutely unequivocal. Finally trust me I try to see positives just when it goes from one paper saying a rumour to 3-4 it becomes harder to accept it as speculation.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: The "board" if we are calling them that still are really worrying me now. It has all the hallmarks of asset stripping and wage bill cutting before a sale. Krueger came in and promised a new era of open communication well sadly I am yet to see evidence of this, Before the Saints can do no wrong brigade come on and give me a hard time I don't like being disappointed and worried about the club but I post comments like this because unlike some in positions of responsibility I truly care about the club. There is a massive difference in saying you care and actually showing you care, My honest perception of Krueger is it's just a job to him. We have a really worrying summer ahead as we are seemingly the victims of a well orchestrated concerted hate filled media campaign to unsettle the players, manager etc and even the Echo in my opinion has a massively anti Saints stance and the board don't seem to be bothered about the stability of the club.[/p][/quote]Three questions. 1 who is our current manager? 2 who is our current captain? 3 who is our current first choice left back? You are worrying about things that may never happen. Try lightening up a bit and have the odd positive thought for a change.[/p][/quote]Yes you are right that I am worrying about things that might never happen BUT just in case you didn't read the whole of my post it isn't about me needing to "lighten up" as you put it. It's about me caring passionately that the club build on the season we've just had. Surely you'd agree there is nothing wrong with having that desire. I think you need to avoid personal insults about lightening up particularly as you know NOTHING about me. Do you not agree that the club could so easily put most of this speculation to bed by releasing a more strongly worded press release as clearly Les Reeds didn't get through to the idiotic journalists. Or by fulfilling what Krueger said about a culture of openness which isn't yet being delivered.[/p][/quote]I personally wouldn't describe being advised to lighten up as a personal insult. In case you hadn't noticed most of us on this site are passionate about the club, that's why we are on here posting. Perhaps RK in his short time at the club has realised that being open and honest in this country simply doesn't work . The press ,particularly the Mail, has an agenda which doesn't require any stories to be anywhere near the truth. All of this anti Saints rubbish is causing all sorts of panic and nonsensical comments from Saints fans. The plain fact is that Katharina is now taking the reins of her father's legacy and in so doing has appointed RK as the best man to do that. Does anybody really think she has done this in order to asset strip and tear the club apart bit by bit.If that's what she is doing she couldn't have thought much of her father could she. So anyway sorry if you regard my comment as a personal insult. It wasn't. It would just be nice to have a bit more positivity instead of the constant panic over what is nothing more than press speculation.[/p][/quote]I agree with much of what you say we just appear to express it differently you are clearly able to be positive about the speculation in that no news = good news whereas I want the club to be more pro-active against the campaign against us. I know this is never going to happen but a press release worded along the lines of " we at Southampton Football Club have noticed a sustained media campaign to destabilise the players and management team. Can we put it on record that the media HAVE NOT AND WILL NEVER control the transfer strategy of Southampton Football club. May we put it on record that no player will be sold to ANY club unless Southampton FC feel it is beneficial to the club to do so" and maybe add a bit about Agents and former employees as well just to be absolutely unequivocal. Finally trust me I try to see positives just when it goes from one paper saying a rumour to 3-4 it becomes harder to accept it as speculation. upwherewebelong
  • Score: -1

8:24pm Tue 20 May 14

jezza says...

Costa Baz wrote:
sisaydo1 wrote:
Ronald, like his brother a former star of the Dutch football team and currently working as a youth team coach at Ajax, said: “Our technical director Marc Overmars told the press that Totenham asked about Frank’s contract but that was months ago and nothing has happened since then.

So Ronald is working as Youth Team Coach at Ajax! could this be a clue???
Could the De Boer brothers be heading to St Mary's?

You heard it hear first x
That actually makes sense.
And, if MP is still reluctant to extend his contract, what better replacement than someone who has played at the highest level, and managed in the Champions League?
He would also, potentially, have that "wow" factor that would stop players walking away.

I like this.
Don't get drawn in.

Part of the media tactic is to turn fans against players and managers. We have a perfectly good manager and a perfectly good team. Let's all just stay behind them and let them know they won't get the level of support we give them anywhere else.

Let's remember, though, that we also have ambitious business people at the helm who don't do second best (and if you check out the history of the various Liebherr companies you will have to agree that this is so). They haven't got where they are by making the wrong decisions, but then they haven't got there by gambling with their money.

I think we need to trust the owner to do as she sees fit. She has stated her intention to move the club to the next level, so presumably she knows how she intends to do it and how much of her money she will invest into doing it.

We might all have our own views on the best way forward, but we don't own the club and we (presumably) don't have the countless millions needed to help achieve the dream.

I think the fact that the club won't dignify the rumours by responding is a good thing. As others have said, (including Mauricio), let's enjoy the now and not get hung up on what hasn't happened yet.

STID COYR
Accept the dignified silence for what it is
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sisaydo1[/bold] wrote: Ronald, like his brother a former star of the Dutch football team and currently working as a youth team coach at Ajax, said: “Our technical director Marc Overmars told the press that Totenham asked about Frank’s contract but that was months ago and nothing has happened since then. So Ronald is working as Youth Team Coach at Ajax! could this be a clue??? Could the De Boer brothers be heading to St Mary's? You heard it hear first x[/p][/quote]That actually makes sense. And, if MP is still reluctant to extend his contract, what better replacement than someone who has played at the highest level, and managed in the Champions League? He would also, potentially, have that "wow" factor that would stop players walking away. I like this.[/p][/quote]Don't get drawn in. Part of the media tactic is to turn fans against players and managers. We have a perfectly good manager and a perfectly good team. Let's all just stay behind them and let them know they won't get the level of support we give them anywhere else. Let's remember, though, that we also have ambitious business people at the helm who don't do second best (and if you check out the history of the various Liebherr companies you will have to agree that this is so). They haven't got where they are by making the wrong decisions, but then they haven't got there by gambling with their money. I think we need to trust the owner to do as she sees fit. She has stated her intention to move the club to the next level, so presumably she knows how she intends to do it and how much of her money she will invest into doing it. We might all have our own views on the best way forward, but we don't own the club and we (presumably) don't have the countless millions needed to help achieve the dream. I think the fact that the club won't dignify the rumours by responding is a good thing. As others have said, (including Mauricio), let's enjoy the now and not get hung up on what hasn't happened yet. STID COYR Accept the dignified silence for what it is jezza
  • Score: 1

8:26pm Tue 20 May 14

St.Yorkie says...

upwherewebelong wrote:
The "board" if we are calling them that still are really worrying me now. It has all the hallmarks of asset stripping and wage bill cutting before a sale. Krueger came in and promised a new era of open communication well sadly I am yet to see evidence of this, Before the Saints can do no wrong brigade come on and give me a hard time I don't like being disappointed and worried about the club but I post comments like this because unlike some in positions of responsibility I truly care about the club. There is a massive difference in saying you care and actually showing you care, My honest perception of Krueger is it's just a job to him.

We have a really worrying summer ahead as we are seemingly the victims of a well orchestrated concerted hate filled media campaign to unsettle the players, manager etc and even the Echo in my opinion has a massively anti Saints stance and the board don't seem to be bothered about the stability of the club.
When you work in big business - big plans and the organisation takes time. It is usually a chain reaction. If X does Y then plan A but need agreement from A, B and C. If it all does fall into place then it's back to square 1.
I guess MoPo is staying if things are put in place. One of them might have been to do with the U-18 set up. Doses & Willo didn't play ball hence they were moved on. Nothing will be announced until everything is in place.
For example the players moving on speculation - perhaps this is a convenient distraction from what is going on behind the scenes.
What about announcing a new MoPo contract with a massive signing?
Not going to speculate any more - but I am getting bored of zero football involving our players. The WC can't come soon enough with our lads doing really well and coming home saying "Going - going where? The future is at Southampton and we want to be part of it!"
Where here's hoping!
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: The "board" if we are calling them that still are really worrying me now. It has all the hallmarks of asset stripping and wage bill cutting before a sale. Krueger came in and promised a new era of open communication well sadly I am yet to see evidence of this, Before the Saints can do no wrong brigade come on and give me a hard time I don't like being disappointed and worried about the club but I post comments like this because unlike some in positions of responsibility I truly care about the club. There is a massive difference in saying you care and actually showing you care, My honest perception of Krueger is it's just a job to him. We have a really worrying summer ahead as we are seemingly the victims of a well orchestrated concerted hate filled media campaign to unsettle the players, manager etc and even the Echo in my opinion has a massively anti Saints stance and the board don't seem to be bothered about the stability of the club.[/p][/quote]When you work in big business - big plans and the organisation takes time. It is usually a chain reaction. If X does Y then plan A but need agreement from A, B and C. If it all does fall into place then it's back to square 1. I guess MoPo is staying if things are put in place. One of them might have been to do with the U-18 set up. Doses & Willo didn't play ball hence they were moved on. Nothing will be announced until everything is in place. For example the players moving on speculation - perhaps this is a convenient distraction from what is going on behind the scenes. What about announcing a new MoPo contract with a massive signing? Not going to speculate any more - but I am getting bored of zero football involving our players. The WC can't come soon enough with our lads doing really well and coming home saying "Going - going where? The future is at Southampton and we want to be part of it!" Where here's hoping! St.Yorkie
  • Score: -1

8:34pm Tue 20 May 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
Did anyone hear J Rod's interview on talk sport?
I missed it, come on echo can you cut and paste off the radio?
http://www.not606.co

m/showthread.php/263

293-Jay-Rodriguez-In

terview-with-TALKSPO

RT
Thanks Osprey
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: Did anyone hear J Rod's interview on talk sport? I missed it, come on echo can you cut and paste off the radio?[/p][/quote]http://www.not606.co m/showthread.php/263 293-Jay-Rodriguez-In terview-with-TALKSPO RT[/p][/quote]Thanks Osprey worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: -1

8:36pm Tue 20 May 14

DisplacedFan says...

Clever Dick wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny......
and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU


P
Yeah well we all look forward to your jealousy fuelled rants about the fortunes of our club. Presumably you have the goldfish-like memory of the normal skunt and can't remember that every one of your predictions for last season failed to come true. Even if we were to sign this lad from Swansea and sell Luke we would still have an international full back and a profit of £26 million. I realise that as a skunt you never get to watch any decent football but maybe that's just as well as you clearly know zilch about the game. There are actually quite a few decent players in sides below us in the Prem but again what would you know. There's not a decent player in your side. That's just another reason why you are known as the laughing stock of football.
Good points. Also rumour does not equal the truth and who said if he did come to us that he woud be a replacement for Shaw and not a squad player? As usual the skunt has little to say of any consequence.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny...... and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU P[/p][/quote]Yeah well we all look forward to your jealousy fuelled rants about the fortunes of our club. Presumably you have the goldfish-like memory of the normal skunt and can't remember that every one of your predictions for last season failed to come true. Even if we were to sign this lad from Swansea and sell Luke we would still have an international full back and a profit of £26 million. I realise that as a skunt you never get to watch any decent football but maybe that's just as well as you clearly know zilch about the game. There are actually quite a few decent players in sides below us in the Prem but again what would you know. There's not a decent player in your side. That's just another reason why you are known as the laughing stock of football.[/p][/quote]Good points. Also rumour does not equal the truth and who said if he did come to us that he woud be a replacement for Shaw and not a squad player? As usual the skunt has little to say of any consequence. DisplacedFan
  • Score: -1

8:48pm Tue 20 May 14

Clever Dick says...

upwherewebelong wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
The "board" if we are calling them that still are really worrying me now. It has all the hallmarks of asset stripping and wage bill cutting before a sale. Krueger came in and promised a new era of open communication well sadly I am yet to see evidence of this, Before the Saints can do no wrong brigade come on and give me a hard time I don't like being disappointed and worried about the club but I post comments like this because unlike some in positions of responsibility I truly care about the club. There is a massive difference in saying you care and actually showing you care, My honest perception of Krueger is it's just a job to him.

We have a really worrying summer ahead as we are seemingly the victims of a well orchestrated concerted hate filled media campaign to unsettle the players, manager etc and even the Echo in my opinion has a massively anti Saints stance and the board don't seem to be bothered about the stability of the club.
Three questions.
1 who is our current manager?
2 who is our current captain?
3 who is our current first choice left back?
You are worrying about things that may never happen.
Try lightening up a bit and have the odd positive thought for a change.
Yes you are right that I am worrying about things that might never happen BUT just in case you didn't read the whole of my post it isn't about me needing to "lighten up" as you put it. It's about me caring passionately that the club build on the season we've just had. Surely you'd agree there is nothing wrong with having that desire. I think you need to avoid personal insults about lightening up particularly as you know NOTHING about me. Do you not agree that the club could so easily put most of this speculation to bed by releasing a more strongly worded press release as clearly Les Reeds didn't get through to the idiotic journalists. Or by fulfilling what Krueger said about a culture of openness which isn't yet being delivered.
I personally wouldn't describe being advised to lighten up as a personal insult. In case you hadn't noticed most of us on this site are passionate about the club, that's why we are on here posting. Perhaps RK in his short time at the club has realised that being open and honest in this country simply doesn't work . The press ,particularly the Mail, has an agenda which doesn't require any stories to be anywhere near the truth. All of this anti Saints rubbish is causing all sorts of panic and nonsensical comments from Saints fans. The plain fact is that Katharina is now taking the reins of her father's legacy and in so doing has appointed RK as the best man to do that. Does anybody really think she has done this in order to asset strip and tear the club apart bit by bit.If that's what she is doing she couldn't have thought much of her father could she. So anyway sorry if you regard my comment as a personal insult. It wasn't. It would just be nice to have a bit more positivity instead of the constant panic over what is nothing more than press speculation.
I agree with much of what you say we just appear to express it differently you are clearly able to be positive about the speculation in that no news = good news whereas I want the club to be more pro-active against the campaign against us. I know this is never going to happen but a press release worded along the lines of

" we at Southampton Football Club have noticed a sustained media campaign to destabilise the players and management team. Can we put it on record that the media HAVE NOT AND WILL NEVER control the transfer strategy of Southampton Football club. May we put it on record that no player will be sold to ANY club unless Southampton FC feel it is beneficial to the club to do so" and maybe add a bit about Agents and former employees as well just to be absolutely unequivocal. Finally trust me I try to see positives just when it goes from one paper saying a rumour to 3-4 it becomes harder to accept it as speculation.
The thing is Les Reed has already said what you want to hear and the press have ignored it because they have another agenda. You are right I have a very positive outlook toward next season and I would not be unduly disappointed if a player or two departs as long as the transfer fee goes to improving the squad. With the amount being talked about for Luke we could definitely strengthen in two or even three positions. And I think most of us would agree that this current side only needs a bit of tweaking to become a danger to the big club monopoly. I just think back to where we were just a few short years back and have to pinch myself sometimes seeing where we are now. Onwards and upwards.
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: The "board" if we are calling them that still are really worrying me now. It has all the hallmarks of asset stripping and wage bill cutting before a sale. Krueger came in and promised a new era of open communication well sadly I am yet to see evidence of this, Before the Saints can do no wrong brigade come on and give me a hard time I don't like being disappointed and worried about the club but I post comments like this because unlike some in positions of responsibility I truly care about the club. There is a massive difference in saying you care and actually showing you care, My honest perception of Krueger is it's just a job to him. We have a really worrying summer ahead as we are seemingly the victims of a well orchestrated concerted hate filled media campaign to unsettle the players, manager etc and even the Echo in my opinion has a massively anti Saints stance and the board don't seem to be bothered about the stability of the club.[/p][/quote]Three questions. 1 who is our current manager? 2 who is our current captain? 3 who is our current first choice left back? You are worrying about things that may never happen. Try lightening up a bit and have the odd positive thought for a change.[/p][/quote]Yes you are right that I am worrying about things that might never happen BUT just in case you didn't read the whole of my post it isn't about me needing to "lighten up" as you put it. It's about me caring passionately that the club build on the season we've just had. Surely you'd agree there is nothing wrong with having that desire. I think you need to avoid personal insults about lightening up particularly as you know NOTHING about me. Do you not agree that the club could so easily put most of this speculation to bed by releasing a more strongly worded press release as clearly Les Reeds didn't get through to the idiotic journalists. Or by fulfilling what Krueger said about a culture of openness which isn't yet being delivered.[/p][/quote]I personally wouldn't describe being advised to lighten up as a personal insult. In case you hadn't noticed most of us on this site are passionate about the club, that's why we are on here posting. Perhaps RK in his short time at the club has realised that being open and honest in this country simply doesn't work . The press ,particularly the Mail, has an agenda which doesn't require any stories to be anywhere near the truth. All of this anti Saints rubbish is causing all sorts of panic and nonsensical comments from Saints fans. The plain fact is that Katharina is now taking the reins of her father's legacy and in so doing has appointed RK as the best man to do that. Does anybody really think she has done this in order to asset strip and tear the club apart bit by bit.If that's what she is doing she couldn't have thought much of her father could she. So anyway sorry if you regard my comment as a personal insult. It wasn't. It would just be nice to have a bit more positivity instead of the constant panic over what is nothing more than press speculation.[/p][/quote]I agree with much of what you say we just appear to express it differently you are clearly able to be positive about the speculation in that no news = good news whereas I want the club to be more pro-active against the campaign against us. I know this is never going to happen but a press release worded along the lines of " we at Southampton Football Club have noticed a sustained media campaign to destabilise the players and management team. Can we put it on record that the media HAVE NOT AND WILL NEVER control the transfer strategy of Southampton Football club. May we put it on record that no player will be sold to ANY club unless Southampton FC feel it is beneficial to the club to do so" and maybe add a bit about Agents and former employees as well just to be absolutely unequivocal. Finally trust me I try to see positives just when it goes from one paper saying a rumour to 3-4 it becomes harder to accept it as speculation.[/p][/quote]The thing is Les Reed has already said what you want to hear and the press have ignored it because they have another agenda. You are right I have a very positive outlook toward next season and I would not be unduly disappointed if a player or two departs as long as the transfer fee goes to improving the squad. With the amount being talked about for Luke we could definitely strengthen in two or even three positions. And I think most of us would agree that this current side only needs a bit of tweaking to become a danger to the big club monopoly. I just think back to where we were just a few short years back and have to pinch myself sometimes seeing where we are now. Onwards and upwards. Clever Dick
  • Score: 1

9:00pm Tue 20 May 14

saintlysoul says...

Clever Dick wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
The "board" if we are calling them that still are really worrying me now. It has all the hallmarks of asset stripping and wage bill cutting before a sale. Krueger came in and promised a new era of open communication well sadly I am yet to see evidence of this, Before the Saints can do no wrong brigade come on and give me a hard time I don't like being disappointed and worried about the club but I post comments like this because unlike some in positions of responsibility I truly care about the club. There is a massive difference in saying you care and actually showing you care, My honest perception of Krueger is it's just a job to him.

We have a really worrying summer ahead as we are seemingly the victims of a well orchestrated concerted hate filled media campaign to unsettle the players, manager etc and even the Echo in my opinion has a massively anti Saints stance and the board don't seem to be bothered about the stability of the club.
Three questions.
1 who is our current manager?
2 who is our current captain?
3 who is our current first choice left back?
You are worrying about things that may never happen.
Try lightening up a bit and have the odd positive thought for a change.
Yes you are right that I am worrying about things that might never happen BUT just in case you didn't read the whole of my post it isn't about me needing to "lighten up" as you put it. It's about me caring passionately that the club build on the season we've just had. Surely you'd agree there is nothing wrong with having that desire. I think you need to avoid personal insults about lightening up particularly as you know NOTHING about me. Do you not agree that the club could so easily put most of this speculation to bed by releasing a more strongly worded press release as clearly Les Reeds didn't get through to the idiotic journalists. Or by fulfilling what Krueger said about a culture of openness which isn't yet being delivered.
I personally wouldn't describe being advised to lighten up as a personal insult. In case you hadn't noticed most of us on this site are passionate about the club, that's why we are on here posting. Perhaps RK in his short time at the club has realised that being open and honest in this country simply doesn't work . The press ,particularly the Mail, has an agenda which doesn't require any stories to be anywhere near the truth. All of this anti Saints rubbish is causing all sorts of panic and nonsensical comments from Saints fans. The plain fact is that Katharina is now taking the reins of her father's legacy and in so doing has appointed RK as the best man to do that. Does anybody really think she has done this in order to asset strip and tear the club apart bit by bit.If that's what she is doing she couldn't have thought much of her father could she. So anyway sorry if you regard my comment as a personal insult. It wasn't. It would just be nice to have a bit more positivity instead of the constant panic over what is nothing more than press speculation.
I agree with much of what you say we just appear to express it differently you are clearly able to be positive about the speculation in that no news = good news whereas I want the club to be more pro-active against the campaign against us. I know this is never going to happen but a press release worded along the lines of

" we at Southampton Football Club have noticed a sustained media campaign to destabilise the players and management team. Can we put it on record that the media HAVE NOT AND WILL NEVER control the transfer strategy of Southampton Football club. May we put it on record that no player will be sold to ANY club unless Southampton FC feel it is beneficial to the club to do so" and maybe add a bit about Agents and former employees as well just to be absolutely unequivocal. Finally trust me I try to see positives just when it goes from one paper saying a rumour to 3-4 it becomes harder to accept it as speculation.
The thing is Les Reed has already said what you want to hear and the press have ignored it because they have another agenda. You are right I have a very positive outlook toward next season and I would not be unduly disappointed if a player or two departs as long as the transfer fee goes to improving the squad. With the amount being talked about for Luke we could definitely strengthen in two or even three positions. And I think most of us would agree that this current side only needs a bit of tweaking to become a danger to the big club monopoly. I just think back to where we were just a few short years back and have to pinch myself sometimes seeing where we are now. Onwards and upwards.
MP is off, Lallana is off to Liverpool and Shaw will be at Manure. Just hope that there won't be any more players off to where they think the grass is greener.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: The "board" if we are calling them that still are really worrying me now. It has all the hallmarks of asset stripping and wage bill cutting before a sale. Krueger came in and promised a new era of open communication well sadly I am yet to see evidence of this, Before the Saints can do no wrong brigade come on and give me a hard time I don't like being disappointed and worried about the club but I post comments like this because unlike some in positions of responsibility I truly care about the club. There is a massive difference in saying you care and actually showing you care, My honest perception of Krueger is it's just a job to him. We have a really worrying summer ahead as we are seemingly the victims of a well orchestrated concerted hate filled media campaign to unsettle the players, manager etc and even the Echo in my opinion has a massively anti Saints stance and the board don't seem to be bothered about the stability of the club.[/p][/quote]Three questions. 1 who is our current manager? 2 who is our current captain? 3 who is our current first choice left back? You are worrying about things that may never happen. Try lightening up a bit and have the odd positive thought for a change.[/p][/quote]Yes you are right that I am worrying about things that might never happen BUT just in case you didn't read the whole of my post it isn't about me needing to "lighten up" as you put it. It's about me caring passionately that the club build on the season we've just had. Surely you'd agree there is nothing wrong with having that desire. I think you need to avoid personal insults about lightening up particularly as you know NOTHING about me. Do you not agree that the club could so easily put most of this speculation to bed by releasing a more strongly worded press release as clearly Les Reeds didn't get through to the idiotic journalists. Or by fulfilling what Krueger said about a culture of openness which isn't yet being delivered.[/p][/quote]I personally wouldn't describe being advised to lighten up as a personal insult. In case you hadn't noticed most of us on this site are passionate about the club, that's why we are on here posting. Perhaps RK in his short time at the club has realised that being open and honest in this country simply doesn't work . The press ,particularly the Mail, has an agenda which doesn't require any stories to be anywhere near the truth. All of this anti Saints rubbish is causing all sorts of panic and nonsensical comments from Saints fans. The plain fact is that Katharina is now taking the reins of her father's legacy and in so doing has appointed RK as the best man to do that. Does anybody really think she has done this in order to asset strip and tear the club apart bit by bit.If that's what she is doing she couldn't have thought much of her father could she. So anyway sorry if you regard my comment as a personal insult. It wasn't. It would just be nice to have a bit more positivity instead of the constant panic over what is nothing more than press speculation.[/p][/quote]I agree with much of what you say we just appear to express it differently you are clearly able to be positive about the speculation in that no news = good news whereas I want the club to be more pro-active against the campaign against us. I know this is never going to happen but a press release worded along the lines of " we at Southampton Football Club have noticed a sustained media campaign to destabilise the players and management team. Can we put it on record that the media HAVE NOT AND WILL NEVER control the transfer strategy of Southampton Football club. May we put it on record that no player will be sold to ANY club unless Southampton FC feel it is beneficial to the club to do so" and maybe add a bit about Agents and former employees as well just to be absolutely unequivocal. Finally trust me I try to see positives just when it goes from one paper saying a rumour to 3-4 it becomes harder to accept it as speculation.[/p][/quote]The thing is Les Reed has already said what you want to hear and the press have ignored it because they have another agenda. You are right I have a very positive outlook toward next season and I would not be unduly disappointed if a player or two departs as long as the transfer fee goes to improving the squad. With the amount being talked about for Luke we could definitely strengthen in two or even three positions. And I think most of us would agree that this current side only needs a bit of tweaking to become a danger to the big club monopoly. I just think back to where we were just a few short years back and have to pinch myself sometimes seeing where we are now. Onwards and upwards.[/p][/quote]MP is off, Lallana is off to Liverpool and Shaw will be at Manure. Just hope that there won't be any more players off to where they think the grass is greener. saintlysoul
  • Score: -6

9:27pm Tue 20 May 14

Costa Baz says...

jezza wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
sisaydo1 wrote:
Ronald, like his brother a former star of the Dutch football team and currently working as a youth team coach at Ajax, said: “Our technical director Marc Overmars told the press that Totenham asked about Frank’s contract but that was months ago and nothing has happened since then.

So Ronald is working as Youth Team Coach at Ajax! could this be a clue???
Could the De Boer brothers be heading to St Mary's?

You heard it hear first x
That actually makes sense.
And, if MP is still reluctant to extend his contract, what better replacement than someone who has played at the highest level, and managed in the Champions League?
He would also, potentially, have that "wow" factor that would stop players walking away.

I like this.
Don't get drawn in.

Part of the media tactic is to turn fans against players and managers. We have a perfectly good manager and a perfectly good team. Let's all just stay behind them and let them know they won't get the level of support we give them anywhere else.

Let's remember, though, that we also have ambitious business people at the helm who don't do second best (and if you check out the history of the various Liebherr companies you will have to agree that this is so). They haven't got where they are by making the wrong decisions, but then they haven't got there by gambling with their money.

I think we need to trust the owner to do as she sees fit. She has stated her intention to move the club to the next level, so presumably she knows how she intends to do it and how much of her money she will invest into doing it.

We might all have our own views on the best way forward, but we don't own the club and we (presumably) don't have the countless millions needed to help achieve the dream.

I think the fact that the club won't dignify the rumours by responding is a good thing. As others have said, (including Mauricio), let's enjoy the now and not get hung up on what hasn't happened yet.

STID COYR
Accept the dignified silence for what it is
Not getting drawn into anything.
This isn't media spiel, just a fan speculating.
I just happen to think it would be a good plan, if MP thinks the grass is greener in North London.
[quote][p][bold]jezza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sisaydo1[/bold] wrote: Ronald, like his brother a former star of the Dutch football team and currently working as a youth team coach at Ajax, said: “Our technical director Marc Overmars told the press that Totenham asked about Frank’s contract but that was months ago and nothing has happened since then. So Ronald is working as Youth Team Coach at Ajax! could this be a clue??? Could the De Boer brothers be heading to St Mary's? You heard it hear first x[/p][/quote]That actually makes sense. And, if MP is still reluctant to extend his contract, what better replacement than someone who has played at the highest level, and managed in the Champions League? He would also, potentially, have that "wow" factor that would stop players walking away. I like this.[/p][/quote]Don't get drawn in. Part of the media tactic is to turn fans against players and managers. We have a perfectly good manager and a perfectly good team. Let's all just stay behind them and let them know they won't get the level of support we give them anywhere else. Let's remember, though, that we also have ambitious business people at the helm who don't do second best (and if you check out the history of the various Liebherr companies you will have to agree that this is so). They haven't got where they are by making the wrong decisions, but then they haven't got there by gambling with their money. I think we need to trust the owner to do as she sees fit. She has stated her intention to move the club to the next level, so presumably she knows how she intends to do it and how much of her money she will invest into doing it. We might all have our own views on the best way forward, but we don't own the club and we (presumably) don't have the countless millions needed to help achieve the dream. I think the fact that the club won't dignify the rumours by responding is a good thing. As others have said, (including Mauricio), let's enjoy the now and not get hung up on what hasn't happened yet. STID COYR Accept the dignified silence for what it is[/p][/quote]Not getting drawn into anything. This isn't media spiel, just a fan speculating. I just happen to think it would be a good plan, if MP thinks the grass is greener in North London. Costa Baz
  • Score: -1

9:28pm Tue 20 May 14

Clever Dick says...

Believe what you want to believe. I'll believe it when it's on the official site.
Believe what you want to believe. I'll believe it when it's on the official site. Clever Dick
  • Score: 1

9:43pm Tue 20 May 14

gr8saint says...

The key point here is that Saints cannot reveal details due to ongoing legal proceedings.
It's right there in black and white, why they have not told us the reasoning.

Simon Peach actually announced the same information yesterday, but refused to name the "2 coaching staff" also stating the ongoing legal proceedings, but confirming that they weren't first team.

For matters not relating to this, we all need to try to stay calm! COYR!
The key point here is that Saints cannot reveal details due to ongoing legal proceedings. It's right there in black and white, why they have not told us the reasoning. Simon Peach actually announced the same information yesterday, but refused to name the "2 coaching staff" also stating the ongoing legal proceedings, but confirming that they weren't first team. For matters not relating to this, we all need to try to stay calm! COYR! gr8saint
  • Score: -1

9:52pm Tue 20 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

The timing of this is bizarre. If it's what MoPo wants fair enough, but I'd want his signature before I started chucking people out to keep him happy. With all the speculation surrounding the club it would seem more sensible to have waited a while. Be interesting to hear the reasons in the fullness of time.
The timing of this is bizarre. If it's what MoPo wants fair enough, but I'd want his signature before I started chucking people out to keep him happy. With all the speculation surrounding the club it would seem more sensible to have waited a while. Be interesting to hear the reasons in the fullness of time. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

10:22pm Tue 20 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The timing of this is bizarre. If it's what MoPo wants fair enough, but I'd want his signature before I started chucking people out to keep him happy. With all the speculation surrounding the club it would seem more sensible to have waited a while. Be interesting to hear the reasons in the fullness of time.
I don't know if it helps but someone has uploaded a pic to saintsweb tonight showing MP out for dinner with, their claim, benali and Ros Wheeler the club secretary, your neighbour is also in the pic seed.
I do wonder why they are out together, is MP (despite the medias claims) happy and settled here and is dodd/Williams leaving is part of his plan? surely the club ant stupid and wouldn't leave themselves open to a big pay out to appease M before hes signed, would they?

with the NC interview due on the BBC tomorrow are the club holding back any positive news in order to stop the interview making big news?
or am just getting as paranoid as the rest and seeing things that just aren't there?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The timing of this is bizarre. If it's what MoPo wants fair enough, but I'd want his signature before I started chucking people out to keep him happy. With all the speculation surrounding the club it would seem more sensible to have waited a while. Be interesting to hear the reasons in the fullness of time.[/p][/quote]I don't know if it helps but someone has uploaded a pic to saintsweb tonight showing MP out for dinner with, their claim, benali and Ros Wheeler the club secretary, your neighbour is also in the pic seed. I do wonder why they are out together, is MP (despite the medias claims) happy and settled here and is dodd/Williams leaving is part of his plan? surely the club ant stupid and wouldn't leave themselves open to a big pay out to appease M before hes signed, would they? with the NC interview due on the BBC tomorrow are the club holding back any positive news in order to stop the interview making big news? or am just getting as paranoid as the rest and seeing things that just aren't there? el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

10:36pm Tue 20 May 14

Clever Dick says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The timing of this is bizarre. If it's what MoPo wants fair enough, but I'd want his signature before I started chucking people out to keep him happy. With all the speculation surrounding the club it would seem more sensible to have waited a while. Be interesting to hear the reasons in the fullness of time.
I don't know if it helps but someone has uploaded a pic to saintsweb tonight showing MP out for dinner with, their claim, benali and Ros Wheeler the club secretary, your neighbour is also in the pic seed.
I do wonder why they are out together, is MP (despite the medias claims) happy and settled here and is dodd/Williams leaving is part of his plan? surely the club ant stupid and wouldn't leave themselves open to a big pay out to appease M before hes signed, would they?

with the NC interview due on the BBC tomorrow are the club holding back any positive news in order to stop the interview making big news?
or am just getting as paranoid as the rest and seeing things that just aren't there?
It will certainly be a very interesting interview. Since Nicola was responsible for the running of the club and described it as his baby on a number of occasions I'd be pretty surprised if he put the knife in now. MoPo is on record as saying that it was Nicola who told him to stay on after all the questions about him leaving as well. I guess it could go either way though.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The timing of this is bizarre. If it's what MoPo wants fair enough, but I'd want his signature before I started chucking people out to keep him happy. With all the speculation surrounding the club it would seem more sensible to have waited a while. Be interesting to hear the reasons in the fullness of time.[/p][/quote]I don't know if it helps but someone has uploaded a pic to saintsweb tonight showing MP out for dinner with, their claim, benali and Ros Wheeler the club secretary, your neighbour is also in the pic seed. I do wonder why they are out together, is MP (despite the medias claims) happy and settled here and is dodd/Williams leaving is part of his plan? surely the club ant stupid and wouldn't leave themselves open to a big pay out to appease M before hes signed, would they? with the NC interview due on the BBC tomorrow are the club holding back any positive news in order to stop the interview making big news? or am just getting as paranoid as the rest and seeing things that just aren't there?[/p][/quote]It will certainly be a very interesting interview. Since Nicola was responsible for the running of the club and described it as his baby on a number of occasions I'd be pretty surprised if he put the knife in now. MoPo is on record as saying that it was Nicola who told him to stay on after all the questions about him leaving as well. I guess it could go either way though. Clever Dick
  • Score: 0

10:36pm Tue 20 May 14

Clever Dick says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The timing of this is bizarre. If it's what MoPo wants fair enough, but I'd want his signature before I started chucking people out to keep him happy. With all the speculation surrounding the club it would seem more sensible to have waited a while. Be interesting to hear the reasons in the fullness of time.
I don't know if it helps but someone has uploaded a pic to saintsweb tonight showing MP out for dinner with, their claim, benali and Ros Wheeler the club secretary, your neighbour is also in the pic seed.
I do wonder why they are out together, is MP (despite the medias claims) happy and settled here and is dodd/Williams leaving is part of his plan? surely the club ant stupid and wouldn't leave themselves open to a big pay out to appease M before hes signed, would they?

with the NC interview due on the BBC tomorrow are the club holding back any positive news in order to stop the interview making big news?
or am just getting as paranoid as the rest and seeing things that just aren't there?
It will certainly be a very interesting interview. Since Nicola was responsible for the running of the club and described it as his baby on a number of occasions I'd be pretty surprised if he put the knife in now. MoPo is on record as saying that it was Nicola who told him to stay on after all the questions about him leaving as well. I guess it could go either way though.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The timing of this is bizarre. If it's what MoPo wants fair enough, but I'd want his signature before I started chucking people out to keep him happy. With all the speculation surrounding the club it would seem more sensible to have waited a while. Be interesting to hear the reasons in the fullness of time.[/p][/quote]I don't know if it helps but someone has uploaded a pic to saintsweb tonight showing MP out for dinner with, their claim, benali and Ros Wheeler the club secretary, your neighbour is also in the pic seed. I do wonder why they are out together, is MP (despite the medias claims) happy and settled here and is dodd/Williams leaving is part of his plan? surely the club ant stupid and wouldn't leave themselves open to a big pay out to appease M before hes signed, would they? with the NC interview due on the BBC tomorrow are the club holding back any positive news in order to stop the interview making big news? or am just getting as paranoid as the rest and seeing things that just aren't there?[/p][/quote]It will certainly be a very interesting interview. Since Nicola was responsible for the running of the club and described it as his baby on a number of occasions I'd be pretty surprised if he put the knife in now. MoPo is on record as saying that it was Nicola who told him to stay on after all the questions about him leaving as well. I guess it could go either way though. Clever Dick
  • Score: -1

10:38pm Tue 20 May 14

M.U.CS1 says...

How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?
How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ? M.U.CS1
  • Score: -11

10:46pm Tue 20 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?
you must have got lost mate, this is the saints site where we don't give a flying what you think!
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?[/p][/quote]you must have got lost mate, this is the saints site where we don't give a flying what you think! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 5

10:57pm Tue 20 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Clever Dick wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The timing of this is bizarre. If it's what MoPo wants fair enough, but I'd want his signature before I started chucking people out to keep him happy. With all the speculation surrounding the club it would seem more sensible to have waited a while. Be interesting to hear the reasons in the fullness of time.
I don't know if it helps but someone has uploaded a pic to saintsweb tonight showing MP out for dinner with, their claim, benali and Ros Wheeler the club secretary, your neighbour is also in the pic seed.
I do wonder why they are out together, is MP (despite the medias claims) happy and settled here and is dodd/Williams leaving is part of his plan? surely the club ant stupid and wouldn't leave themselves open to a big pay out to appease M before hes signed, would they?

with the NC interview due on the BBC tomorrow are the club holding back any positive news in order to stop the interview making big news?
or am just getting as paranoid as the rest and seeing things that just aren't there?
It will certainly be a very interesting interview. Since Nicola was responsible for the running of the club and described it as his baby on a number of occasions I'd be pretty surprised if he put the knife in now. MoPo is on record as saying that it was Nicola who told him to stay on after all the questions about him leaving as well. I guess it could go either way though.
Cosy dinner sounds promising. My neighbour has a couple of young kids settled into a local school and as I said before he told me they wanted to stay proved the club maintained its stated ambitions under our previous CEO. Cortese achieved great things but I never warmed to him because of his petty stuff with firstly the media then Matt Le Tiss and Benali, Orange Eddie, Solent Interiors et al. It's all well and good fighting your corner but he picked unnecessary fights. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he put the knife in but I seriously hope not.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The timing of this is bizarre. If it's what MoPo wants fair enough, but I'd want his signature before I started chucking people out to keep him happy. With all the speculation surrounding the club it would seem more sensible to have waited a while. Be interesting to hear the reasons in the fullness of time.[/p][/quote]I don't know if it helps but someone has uploaded a pic to saintsweb tonight showing MP out for dinner with, their claim, benali and Ros Wheeler the club secretary, your neighbour is also in the pic seed. I do wonder why they are out together, is MP (despite the medias claims) happy and settled here and is dodd/Williams leaving is part of his plan? surely the club ant stupid and wouldn't leave themselves open to a big pay out to appease M before hes signed, would they? with the NC interview due on the BBC tomorrow are the club holding back any positive news in order to stop the interview making big news? or am just getting as paranoid as the rest and seeing things that just aren't there?[/p][/quote]It will certainly be a very interesting interview. Since Nicola was responsible for the running of the club and described it as his baby on a number of occasions I'd be pretty surprised if he put the knife in now. MoPo is on record as saying that it was Nicola who told him to stay on after all the questions about him leaving as well. I guess it could go either way though.[/p][/quote]Cosy dinner sounds promising. My neighbour has a couple of young kids settled into a local school and as I said before he told me they wanted to stay proved the club maintained its stated ambitions under our previous CEO. Cortese achieved great things but I never warmed to him because of his petty stuff with firstly the media then Matt Le Tiss and Benali, Orange Eddie, Solent Interiors et al. It's all well and good fighting your corner but he picked unnecessary fights. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he put the knife in but I seriously hope not. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 1

10:58pm Tue 20 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?
How's Surrey tonight? Or is it that stinking cesspit to our east?
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?[/p][/quote]How's Surrey tonight? Or is it that stinking cesspit to our east? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

11:12pm Tue 20 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

lets be honest, amongst all the doom and gloom there is a ray of light, fat face sam has been told he can keep his job, but only if he plays a more attacking style of play, employs an attacking minded coach and finishes in the top 10. oh well sam 1 out of 3 isn't that bad. p1ssed myself at the news!
lets be honest, amongst all the doom and gloom there is a ray of light, fat face sam has been told he can keep his job, but only if he plays a more attacking style of play, employs an attacking minded coach and finishes in the top 10. oh well sam 1 out of 3 isn't that bad. p1ssed myself at the news! el caballo santos101
  • Score: -1

11:47pm Tue 20 May 14

Clever Dick says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?
Hee hee. Actually we had an OK season seriously affected by injuries. Guess you'd better get used to having terrible seasons then what with your ageing stars and inadequate younger players. Maybe two or possibly three of your lot would get into our side. Mid table obscurity beckons for you. The new order is coming.
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?[/p][/quote]Hee hee. Actually we had an OK season seriously affected by injuries. Guess you'd better get used to having terrible seasons then what with your ageing stars and inadequate younger players. Maybe two or possibly three of your lot would get into our side. Mid table obscurity beckons for you. The new order is coming. Clever Dick
  • Score: 1

1:55am Wed 21 May 14

andoru says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?
Does that mean it always has to be that way? Man Utd have no right to be bigger than Southampton, it's just the way things have gone. For several seasons in the 80s it was the other way around.

There was a time when Utd were not very successful. They were down near the bottom of the table. How would you have felt if Alex Ferguson had moved on to a bigger club at that time? What if your fabled "Class of '92" had all made transfer requests to Liverpool or Arsenal? Utd would have lost the very foundation they built their future success on, and today we wouldn't even be talking the club. It would be just another also-ran.

We're annoyed at the prospect of our best players leaving because the club has invested time and money in developing them. We'd like to see a return on that on the pitch. We couldn't care less about the business aspect of the club (well, other than ensuring we don't go bankrupt again obviously). We support our team for the football, and that means we want to see the players our scouts discovered and our coaches trained up winning games for us, not other teams who simply have the financial clout to buy them. As a Utd fan I don't expect you to understand.
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?[/p][/quote]Does that mean it always has to be that way? Man Utd have no right to be bigger than Southampton, it's just the way things have gone. For several seasons in the 80s it was the other way around. There was a time when Utd were not very successful. They were down near the bottom of the table. How would you have felt if Alex Ferguson had moved on to a bigger club at that time? What if your fabled "Class of '92" had all made transfer requests to Liverpool or Arsenal? Utd would have lost the very foundation they built their future success on, and today we wouldn't even be talking the club. It would be just another also-ran. We're annoyed at the prospect of our best players leaving because the club has invested time and money in developing them. We'd like to see a return on that on the pitch. We couldn't care less about the business aspect of the club (well, other than ensuring we don't go bankrupt again obviously). We support our team for the football, and that means we want to see the players our scouts discovered and our coaches trained up winning games for us, not other teams who simply have the financial clout to buy them. As a Utd fan I don't expect you to understand. andoru
  • Score: 3

2:34am Wed 21 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

andoru wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?
Does that mean it always has to be that way? Man Utd have no right to be bigger than Southampton, it's just the way things have gone. For several seasons in the 80s it was the other way around.

There was a time when Utd were not very successful. They were down near the bottom of the table. How would you have felt if Alex Ferguson had moved on to a bigger club at that time? What if your fabled "Class of '92" had all made transfer requests to Liverpool or Arsenal? Utd would have lost the very foundation they built their future success on, and today we wouldn't even be talking the club. It would be just another also-ran.

We're annoyed at the prospect of our best players leaving because the club has invested time and money in developing them. We'd like to see a return on that on the pitch. We couldn't care less about the business aspect of the club (well, other than ensuring we don't go bankrupt again obviously). We support our team for the football, and that means we want to see the players our scouts discovered and our coaches trained up winning games for us, not other teams who simply have the financial clout to buy them. As a Utd fan I don't expect you to understand.
Beautiful.
[quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?[/p][/quote]Does that mean it always has to be that way? Man Utd have no right to be bigger than Southampton, it's just the way things have gone. For several seasons in the 80s it was the other way around. There was a time when Utd were not very successful. They were down near the bottom of the table. How would you have felt if Alex Ferguson had moved on to a bigger club at that time? What if your fabled "Class of '92" had all made transfer requests to Liverpool or Arsenal? Utd would have lost the very foundation they built their future success on, and today we wouldn't even be talking the club. It would be just another also-ran. We're annoyed at the prospect of our best players leaving because the club has invested time and money in developing them. We'd like to see a return on that on the pitch. We couldn't care less about the business aspect of the club (well, other than ensuring we don't go bankrupt again obviously). We support our team for the football, and that means we want to see the players our scouts discovered and our coaches trained up winning games for us, not other teams who simply have the financial clout to buy them. As a Utd fan I don't expect you to understand.[/p][/quote]Beautiful. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

4:06am Wed 21 May 14

st1halo says...

andoru wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?
Does that mean it always has to be that way? Man Utd have no right to be bigger than Southampton, it's just the way things have gone. For several seasons in the 80s it was the other way around.

There was a time when Utd were not very successful. They were down near the bottom of the table. How would you have felt if Alex Ferguson had moved on to a bigger club at that time? What if your fabled "Class of '92" had all made transfer requests to Liverpool or Arsenal? Utd would have lost the very foundation they built their future success on, and today we wouldn't even be talking the club. It would be just another also-ran.

We're annoyed at the prospect of our best players leaving because the club has invested time and money in developing them. We'd like to see a return on that on the pitch. We couldn't care less about the business aspect of the club (well, other than ensuring we don't go bankrupt again obviously). We support our team for the football, and that means we want to see the players our scouts discovered and our coaches trained up winning games for us, not other teams who simply have the financial clout to buy them. As a Utd fan I don't expect you to understand.
Top draw reply. Absolutely perfect.

STID
[quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?[/p][/quote]Does that mean it always has to be that way? Man Utd have no right to be bigger than Southampton, it's just the way things have gone. For several seasons in the 80s it was the other way around. There was a time when Utd were not very successful. They were down near the bottom of the table. How would you have felt if Alex Ferguson had moved on to a bigger club at that time? What if your fabled "Class of '92" had all made transfer requests to Liverpool or Arsenal? Utd would have lost the very foundation they built their future success on, and today we wouldn't even be talking the club. It would be just another also-ran. We're annoyed at the prospect of our best players leaving because the club has invested time and money in developing them. We'd like to see a return on that on the pitch. We couldn't care less about the business aspect of the club (well, other than ensuring we don't go bankrupt again obviously). We support our team for the football, and that means we want to see the players our scouts discovered and our coaches trained up winning games for us, not other teams who simply have the financial clout to buy them. As a Utd fan I don't expect you to understand.[/p][/quote]Top draw reply. Absolutely perfect. STID st1halo
  • Score: 0

4:49am Wed 21 May 14

andoru says...

st1halo wrote:
andoru wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?
Does that mean it always has to be that way? Man Utd have no right to be bigger than Southampton, it's just the way things have gone. For several seasons in the 80s it was the other way around.

There was a time when Utd were not very successful. They were down near the bottom of the table. How would you have felt if Alex Ferguson had moved on to a bigger club at that time? What if your fabled "Class of '92" had all made transfer requests to Liverpool or Arsenal? Utd would have lost the very foundation they built their future success on, and today we wouldn't even be talking the club. It would be just another also-ran.

We're annoyed at the prospect of our best players leaving because the club has invested time and money in developing them. We'd like to see a return on that on the pitch. We couldn't care less about the business aspect of the club (well, other than ensuring we don't go bankrupt again obviously). We support our team for the football, and that means we want to see the players our scouts discovered and our coaches trained up winning games for us, not other teams who simply have the financial clout to buy them. As a Utd fan I don't expect you to understand.
Top draw reply. Absolutely perfect.

STID
Thanks. Sadly, I imagine it will fall on deaf ears. Utd have been winning for so long the fans have forgotten the days when they were in our position – an aspiring club with homegrown talent poised and ready to break through. They were just fortunate to be in that situation at a very different time in football. There was no cash-rich club lurking with a chequebook to steal their players away, and loyalty to the club, and to the manager who brought you through, was still part of the game. I'd just like to see Luke Shaw give us a season or two more in return for the club giving him the opportunity to play professional football. Adam at least has served the club well and could argue he's earned the chance to decide his own future (although of the two he's the hardest to replace). If Luke does go, I'll be quite disappointed in him after all the things he's said about wanting to stay and develop and all that. This is the first true test of his commitment to Saints (the rumored Chelsea interest last season was just an enquiry I believe). We'll see how much he really meant what he said.
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?[/p][/quote]Does that mean it always has to be that way? Man Utd have no right to be bigger than Southampton, it's just the way things have gone. For several seasons in the 80s it was the other way around. There was a time when Utd were not very successful. They were down near the bottom of the table. How would you have felt if Alex Ferguson had moved on to a bigger club at that time? What if your fabled "Class of '92" had all made transfer requests to Liverpool or Arsenal? Utd would have lost the very foundation they built their future success on, and today we wouldn't even be talking the club. It would be just another also-ran. We're annoyed at the prospect of our best players leaving because the club has invested time and money in developing them. We'd like to see a return on that on the pitch. We couldn't care less about the business aspect of the club (well, other than ensuring we don't go bankrupt again obviously). We support our team for the football, and that means we want to see the players our scouts discovered and our coaches trained up winning games for us, not other teams who simply have the financial clout to buy them. As a Utd fan I don't expect you to understand.[/p][/quote]Top draw reply. Absolutely perfect. STID[/p][/quote]Thanks. Sadly, I imagine it will fall on deaf ears. Utd have been winning for so long the fans have forgotten the days when they were in our position – an aspiring club with homegrown talent poised and ready to break through. They were just fortunate to be in that situation at a very different time in football. There was no cash-rich club lurking with a chequebook to steal their players away, and loyalty to the club, and to the manager who brought you through, was still part of the game. I'd just like to see Luke Shaw give us a season or two more in return for the club giving him the opportunity to play professional football. Adam at least has served the club well and could argue he's earned the chance to decide his own future (although of the two he's the hardest to replace). If Luke does go, I'll be quite disappointed in him after all the things he's said about wanting to stay and develop and all that. This is the first true test of his commitment to Saints (the rumored Chelsea interest last season was just an enquiry I believe). We'll see how much he really meant what he said. andoru
  • Score: 0

7:03am Wed 21 May 14

SaintsFanBowfingerz says...

What an absolute discrace .... look what a good job out youth coaches have done in general and doddsy and wilo have been pivital to this..

Loyal Family Club....when it suits eh?
What an absolute discrace .... look what a good job out youth coaches have done in general and doddsy and wilo have been pivital to this.. Loyal Family Club....when it suits eh? SaintsFanBowfingerz
  • Score: -2

7:06am Wed 21 May 14

SaintsFanBowfingerz says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?
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[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?[/p][/quote]https://www.facebook .com/photo.php?fbid= 1451516585093471&set =a.1441298486115281. 1073741828.144129113 2782683&type=1&theat er . says it all SaintsFanBowfingerz
  • Score: 0

7:19am Wed 21 May 14

PTID1898 says...

SaintsFanBowfingerz wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?
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Well said it'd fan
[quote][p][bold]SaintsFanBowfingerz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?[/p][/quote]https://www.facebook .com/photo.php?fbid= 1451516585093471& ;set =a.1441298486115281. 1073741828.144129113 2782683&type=1&a mp;theat er . says it all[/p][/quote]Well said it'd fan PTID1898
  • Score: -1

8:07am Wed 21 May 14

promised land says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?
And how many times have you actually been to old Trafford ? Like most Man U fans. Never !
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?[/p][/quote]And how many times have you actually been to old Trafford ? Like most Man U fans. Never ! promised land
  • Score: -2

7:13pm Wed 21 May 14

jls217 says...

PTID1898 wrote:
So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny......
and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU

P
On the contrary ****. It's never about who you sell, it's always all about who you replace them with.

Who are you going to replace yours with under 13's and over 40's and even then you'd better warn them they might never get the reward a crooked club has offered them.
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: So the foundations start to crumble from the bottom how funny...... and I see that you are signing Shaw's replacement from Swansea, that's another indication all is not well when you start signing players from other mediocre clubs, I look forward to the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!PU P[/p][/quote]On the contrary ****. It's never about who you sell, it's always all about who you replace them with. Who are you going to replace yours with under 13's and over 40's and even then you'd better warn them they might never get the reward a crooked club has offered them. jls217
  • Score: -1

12:16pm Sun 25 May 14

lowe esteem says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
andoru wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?
Does that mean it always has to be that way? Man Utd have no right to be bigger than Southampton, it's just the way things have gone. For several seasons in the 80s it was the other way around.

There was a time when Utd were not very successful. They were down near the bottom of the table. How would you have felt if Alex Ferguson had moved on to a bigger club at that time? What if your fabled "Class of '92" had all made transfer requests to Liverpool or Arsenal? Utd would have lost the very foundation they built their future success on, and today we wouldn't even be talking the club. It would be just another also-ran.

We're annoyed at the prospect of our best players leaving because the club has invested time and money in developing them. We'd like to see a return on that on the pitch. We couldn't care less about the business aspect of the club (well, other than ensuring we don't go bankrupt again obviously). We support our team for the football, and that means we want to see the players our scouts discovered and our coaches trained up winning games for us, not other teams who simply have the financial clout to buy them. As a Utd fan I don't expect you to understand.
Beautiful.
Yes, andoru's comments are usually articulate, sound and often quite profound.

I will add that 'we' know Saints are on the cusp of something, and should keep repeating this mantra for all we are worth.

There is every chance that retention and continued improvement of our best players coupled with a good 'window shop' will result in a very successful season for our team, where most individuals will benefit more by staying to continue that upward trajectory with MORE real satisfaction and plaudits than being part of someone else's stockholding or playing a support role or bit part elsewhere.

There is something greedy, crude and predatory about the way that alleged 'bigger' clubs wait till someone else has pointed out that X is now 'world class' etc. then they 'flash the cash'.
This is what the rest of us from all other clubs and walks of life, (the MAJORITY) hate, and why it is doomed to failure, there's only (approximately) 11 players that can realise this dream fully, and they're called 'Galacticos'.
Of course, if you want to subscribe to the 'get rich quick' plan, then Far Cough like Frannie B suggests - or stay and enhance your CV, be a proper hero in MORE people's eyes, gain more respect and kudos, on your way to making even more of that dosh.
SAINTS FOREVER.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: How could any of you blame your players leaving for a bigger club ? We had a terrible season and finished 7th you had a brilliant season and finished 8th, says it all really. We average 75k at home games, you only fill your ground when you play against the top sides and how many trophy's have you actually ever won ?[/p][/quote]Does that mean it always has to be that way? Man Utd have no right to be bigger than Southampton, it's just the way things have gone. For several seasons in the 80s it was the other way around. There was a time when Utd were not very successful. They were down near the bottom of the table. How would you have felt if Alex Ferguson had moved on to a bigger club at that time? What if your fabled "Class of '92" had all made transfer requests to Liverpool or Arsenal? Utd would have lost the very foundation they built their future success on, and today we wouldn't even be talking the club. It would be just another also-ran. We're annoyed at the prospect of our best players leaving because the club has invested time and money in developing them. We'd like to see a return on that on the pitch. We couldn't care less about the business aspect of the club (well, other than ensuring we don't go bankrupt again obviously). We support our team for the football, and that means we want to see the players our scouts discovered and our coaches trained up winning games for us, not other teams who simply have the financial clout to buy them. As a Utd fan I don't expect you to understand.[/p][/quote]Beautiful.[/p][/quote]Yes, andoru's comments are usually articulate, sound and often quite profound. I will add that 'we' know Saints are on the cusp of something, and should keep repeating this mantra for all we are worth. There is every chance that retention and continued improvement of our best players coupled with a good 'window shop' will result in a very successful season for our team, where most individuals will benefit more by staying to continue that upward trajectory with MORE real satisfaction and plaudits than being part of someone else's stockholding or playing a support role or bit part elsewhere. There is something greedy, crude and predatory about the way that alleged 'bigger' clubs wait till someone else has pointed out that X is now 'world class' etc. then they 'flash the cash'. This is what the rest of us from all other clubs and walks of life, (the MAJORITY) hate, and why it is doomed to failure, there's only (approximately) 11 players that can realise this dream fully, and they're called 'Galacticos'. Of course, if you want to subscribe to the 'get rich quick' plan, then Far Cough like Frannie B suggests - or stay and enhance your CV, be a proper hero in MORE people's eyes, gain more respect and kudos, on your way to making even more of that dosh. SAINTS FOREVER. lowe esteem
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