Teams like Saints will always lose top players to Premier League’s “big fish” - Hodgson

Daily Echo: ROY HODGSON ROY HODGSON

England manager Roy Hodgson believes Champions League football means Saints are virtually powerless to stop their top players leaving.

Talking after Rickie Lambert’s shock move to Liverpool, who are also closing in on a deal for Adam Lallana, Hodgson said: “Good players are always going to gravitate to the big clubs.

“That’s where Champions League football is. That’s where the wealth is.”

He added: It’s a pity for Southampton – they’ve been terrific this year. But unfortunately there are always big fish in the sea and it’s hard to keep those fish away.”

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2:38pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Costa Baz says...

He won't be so happy when the players are sidelined to the bench, by foreign imports, leading him to name almost an entire squad made up of players that are reserves for their clubs.
He won't be so happy when the players are sidelined to the bench, by foreign imports, leading him to name almost an entire squad made up of players that are reserves for their clubs. Costa Baz
  • Score: 44

2:56pm Sun 1 Jun 14

DisplacedFan says...

So to swim with the big boys and keep our players we are clearly way short of that mark. There are several key areas we need to develop. I wonder what the plan is now to develop those areas? Under Cortese you felt he was on that path, but he did lack the finances, although he may have been courting some big fish to make that happen. There was talk of a bigger stadium. What is the plan now? The loss of our key players cannot be seen in any other light tha a huge step backwards. Wreck it Ralph, what is the plan?
So to swim with the big boys and keep our players we are clearly way short of that mark. There are several key areas we need to develop. I wonder what the plan is now to develop those areas? Under Cortese you felt he was on that path, but he did lack the finances, although he may have been courting some big fish to make that happen. There was talk of a bigger stadium. What is the plan now? The loss of our key players cannot be seen in any other light tha a huge step backwards. Wreck it Ralph, what is the plan? DisplacedFan
  • Score: 5

3:21pm Sun 1 Jun 14

cromwell9 says...

I think the current owners are asset stripping.Then they will sell the club to the highest bidder,
If thats the case,Get on with it ,so we all know where we are.Survive in
the premier next season and rebuild the team,
Lets get a British manager in with a brain for atractive football,has a sense of Humure that can work with everyone,,including the fans.
I think the current owners are asset stripping.Then they will sell the club to the highest bidder, If thats the case,Get on with it ,so we all know where we are.Survive in the premier next season and rebuild the team, Lets get a British manager in with a brain for atractive football,has a sense of Humure that can work with everyone,,including the fans. cromwell9
  • Score: -19

3:42pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Saint Jinx says...

It's sad that Hodgson said that. It is not good for football. Big fish - small fish!!!!
It's sad that Hodgson said that. It is not good for football. Big fish - small fish!!!! Saint Jinx
  • Score: 8

3:43pm Sun 1 Jun 14

markodarko29 says...

Yeh its true what woy says,saints are not selling lallana and Shaw at the moment just in case they have wonderful world cups and can add an extra few million to the price tag soon, as there back there sell its so sad
Yeh its true what woy says,saints are not selling lallana and Shaw at the moment just in case they have wonderful world cups and can add an extra few million to the price tag soon, as there back there sell its so sad markodarko29
  • Score: 0

4:39pm Sun 1 Jun 14

thehoggsback says...

What a load of bo**ocks if the echo had its way we'd be down with the fishes,if you have billionaire owners a category 1 youth academy the training facilities we have and a squad worth a couple hundred mill you'd be a complete half wit not to do something big with that, Laughapool weren't big in the sixties, chelski weren't big till there billions,same with citeh and utd took fergie 25 years, why don't the echo say something positive like news on new manager,instead of this s**t coyr.
What a load of bo**ocks if the echo had its way we'd be down with the fishes,if you have billionaire owners a category 1 youth academy the training facilities we have and a squad worth a couple hundred mill you'd be a complete half wit not to do something big with that, Laughapool weren't big in the sixties, chelski weren't big till there billions,same with citeh and utd took fergie 25 years, why don't the echo say something positive like news on new manager,instead of this s**t coyr. thehoggsback
  • Score: 14

4:49pm Sun 1 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Costa Baz wrote:
He won't be so happy when the players are sidelined to the bench, by foreign imports, leading him to name almost an entire squad made up of players that are reserves for their clubs.
Agree.

We must BREAK THE CYCLE and offer CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FOOTBALL ourselves.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: He won't be so happy when the players are sidelined to the bench, by foreign imports, leading him to name almost an entire squad made up of players that are reserves for their clubs.[/p][/quote]Agree. We must BREAK THE CYCLE and offer CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FOOTBALL ourselves. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 5

4:59pm Sun 1 Jun 14

george chivers says...

Sadly I think he is right. My guess is we will sell our best players off for the maximum we can get. Bring in some cheaper players and a manager who can make those players work together with what's left, develop some more academy players, end up about 14th with a reduced cost base and a weaker team. Then KL will sell the club sometime next season. That way the she will get her loans back and make a decent profit on the original investment. Good business for her and a bad result for us.

When we didn't try to positively progress in the FA Cup there was a hidden message that said Europe at that level is too expensive and I am looking to cut costs, not increase them by upping wages and adding players to the squad so we can compete in the Europa Cup. Burnley did something similar in the 1960's and 1970's. Great kids coming through but not enough fans to sustain a top Div1 team. The owner Bob Lord sells off his best players, makes a profit for himself while the club slips slowly into decline through lack of investment. Hopefully we can find an investor who can keep us at a decent level. If only the FA Cup was a route for teams like ours to get into the Champions League, then provincial clubs wouldn't have this problem. They would have hope.

Come January Cortese had gone and Poch didn't want to stay. The writing was on the wall we were in for a radical change in strategy and Cortese's vision was dead. Now we have to wait and see what happens next.

And I hope I am wrong. STID
Sadly I think he is right. My guess is we will sell our best players off for the maximum we can get. Bring in some cheaper players and a manager who can make those players work together with what's left, develop some more academy players, end up about 14th with a reduced cost base and a weaker team. Then KL will sell the club sometime next season. That way the she will get her loans back and make a decent profit on the original investment. Good business for her and a bad result for us. When we didn't try to positively progress in the FA Cup there was a hidden message that said Europe at that level is too expensive and I am looking to cut costs, not increase them by upping wages and adding players to the squad so we can compete in the Europa Cup. Burnley did something similar in the 1960's and 1970's. Great kids coming through but not enough fans to sustain a top Div1 team. The owner Bob Lord sells off his best players, makes a profit for himself while the club slips slowly into decline through lack of investment. Hopefully we can find an investor who can keep us at a decent level. If only the FA Cup was a route for teams like ours to get into the Champions League, then provincial clubs wouldn't have this problem. They would have hope. Come January Cortese had gone and Poch didn't want to stay. The writing was on the wall we were in for a radical change in strategy and Cortese's vision was dead. Now we have to wait and see what happens next. And I hope I am wrong. STID george chivers
  • Score: 2

5:24pm Sun 1 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

We ALL hope you are wrong george.

When Roy talks about Players leaving for Champions League Football - he's having a laugh ...

Lambert is at the end of his playing days and will spend a great deal of time on the bench and played in the League and FA Cup while the Main Strikers target League Progress. He will also be too slow to play the full 90 minutes.

OX-C thought the grass was greener and was pushed on too hard when he was too young and spends most of the time with injuries with the odd flash of brilliance.
We ALL hope you are wrong george. When Roy talks about Players leaving for Champions League Football - he's having a laugh ... Lambert is at the end of his playing days and will spend a great deal of time on the bench and played in the League and FA Cup while the Main Strikers target League Progress. He will also be too slow to play the full 90 minutes. OX-C thought the grass was greener and was pushed on too hard when he was too young and spends most of the time with injuries with the odd flash of brilliance. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 4

5:35pm Sun 1 Jun 14

richard903 says...

Ban woy from saint marys, we made him very welcome last season, let him watch english players at Munchester city, oops they dont play them! P off woy
Ban woy from saint marys, we made him very welcome last season, let him watch english players at Munchester city, oops they dont play them! P off woy richard903
  • Score: 4

5:47pm Sun 1 Jun 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Not necessarily so, it depends on Katharina.
We are not far away from 'swimming with those big fish'.
Sign a big name Manager like Rafa Benitez who will convince our top players to stay and attract quality new ones will put us there.
We would recover Rafa's salary in no time so would could attract him.
That would not only be good for Saints but also good for the Premiership.
Two good strikers at say £20m (one in part exchange for Osvaldo), a center-back and goalkeeper at £10m for both, plus a free agent or two and we are there, not beyond Saints financial capability.
So come on Katherina, Ralph & Les go get Rafa and shoe woy and the rest that we mean business.
Not necessarily so, it depends on Katharina. We are not far away from 'swimming with those big fish'. Sign a big name Manager like Rafa Benitez who will convince our top players to stay and attract quality new ones will put us there. We would recover Rafa's salary in no time so would could attract him. That would not only be good for Saints but also good for the Premiership. Two good strikers at say £20m (one in part exchange for Osvaldo), a center-back and goalkeeper at £10m for both, plus a free agent or two and we are there, not beyond Saints financial capability. So come on Katherina, Ralph & Les go get Rafa and shoe woy and the rest that we mean business. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 5

7:55pm Sun 1 Jun 14

express_a_view says...

Roy Hodgson could have said how he felt it was positive to have a side in the Premier League looking to develop young English players. He could have said he is only influenced by a player's quality - not which side they play for. He could have said it is not his role as England manager to define which clubs are "big fish" and which "smaller fish." He could have said that as a national team manager who wants to retain a positive rapport with all clubs it would be totally inappropriate for him to get embroiled on any discussion on transfer issues. I actually like Roy Hodgson but feel he has got his response on this one wrong and has additionally, hopefully inadvertently, been a bit patronising to SFC.
Roy Hodgson could have said how he felt it was positive to have a side in the Premier League looking to develop young English players. He could have said he is only influenced by a player's quality - not which side they play for. He could have said it is not his role as England manager to define which clubs are "big fish" and which "smaller fish." He could have said that as a national team manager who wants to retain a positive rapport with all clubs it would be totally inappropriate for him to get embroiled on any discussion on transfer issues. I actually like Roy Hodgson but feel he has got his response on this one wrong and has additionally, hopefully inadvertently, been a bit patronising to SFC. express_a_view
  • Score: 11

9:38pm Sun 1 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

express_a_view wrote:
Roy Hodgson could have said how he felt it was positive to have a side in the Premier League looking to develop young English players. He could have said he is only influenced by a player's quality - not which side they play for. He could have said it is not his role as England manager to define which clubs are "big fish" and which "smaller fish." He could have said that as a national team manager who wants to retain a positive rapport with all clubs it would be totally inappropriate for him to get embroiled on any discussion on transfer issues. I actually like Roy Hodgson but feel he has got his response on this one wrong and has additionally, hopefully inadvertently, been a bit patronising to SFC.
Bang On!
[quote][p][bold]express_a_view[/bold] wrote: Roy Hodgson could have said how he felt it was positive to have a side in the Premier League looking to develop young English players. He could have said he is only influenced by a player's quality - not which side they play for. He could have said it is not his role as England manager to define which clubs are "big fish" and which "smaller fish." He could have said that as a national team manager who wants to retain a positive rapport with all clubs it would be totally inappropriate for him to get embroiled on any discussion on transfer issues. I actually like Roy Hodgson but feel he has got his response on this one wrong and has additionally, hopefully inadvertently, been a bit patronising to SFC.[/p][/quote]Bang On! J7junctionseven
  • Score: 4

10:11pm Sun 1 Jun 14

ed the horse says...

george chivers wrote:
Sadly I think he is right. My guess is we will sell our best players off for the maximum we can get. Bring in some cheaper players and a manager who can make those players work together with what's left, develop some more academy players, end up about 14th with a reduced cost base and a weaker team. Then KL will sell the club sometime next season. That way the she will get her loans back and make a decent profit on the original investment. Good business for her and a bad result for us.

When we didn't try to positively progress in the FA Cup there was a hidden message that said Europe at that level is too expensive and I am looking to cut costs, not increase them by upping wages and adding players to the squad so we can compete in the Europa Cup. Burnley did something similar in the 1960's and 1970's. Great kids coming through but not enough fans to sustain a top Div1 team. The owner Bob Lord sells off his best players, makes a profit for himself while the club slips slowly into decline through lack of investment. Hopefully we can find an investor who can keep us at a decent level. If only the FA Cup was a route for teams like ours to get into the Champions League, then provincial clubs wouldn't have this problem. They would have hope.

Come January Cortese had gone and Poch didn't want to stay. The writing was on the wall we were in for a radical change in strategy and Cortese's vision was dead. Now we have to wait and see what happens next.

And I hope I am wrong. STID
I've been saying the same about the fa cup leading to a champions league place in stead of the team which finishes fourth. Teams would then take it more seriously. It does seem stupid that a team would rather finish fourth than win the cup.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: Sadly I think he is right. My guess is we will sell our best players off for the maximum we can get. Bring in some cheaper players and a manager who can make those players work together with what's left, develop some more academy players, end up about 14th with a reduced cost base and a weaker team. Then KL will sell the club sometime next season. That way the she will get her loans back and make a decent profit on the original investment. Good business for her and a bad result for us. When we didn't try to positively progress in the FA Cup there was a hidden message that said Europe at that level is too expensive and I am looking to cut costs, not increase them by upping wages and adding players to the squad so we can compete in the Europa Cup. Burnley did something similar in the 1960's and 1970's. Great kids coming through but not enough fans to sustain a top Div1 team. The owner Bob Lord sells off his best players, makes a profit for himself while the club slips slowly into decline through lack of investment. Hopefully we can find an investor who can keep us at a decent level. If only the FA Cup was a route for teams like ours to get into the Champions League, then provincial clubs wouldn't have this problem. They would have hope. Come January Cortese had gone and Poch didn't want to stay. The writing was on the wall we were in for a radical change in strategy and Cortese's vision was dead. Now we have to wait and see what happens next. And I hope I am wrong. STID[/p][/quote]I've been saying the same about the fa cup leading to a champions league place in stead of the team which finishes fourth. Teams would then take it more seriously. It does seem stupid that a team would rather finish fourth than win the cup. ed the horse
  • Score: 1

1:50pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Malcombe says...

Let us hope that Saints finish higher next season top or in the first 4, win a Domestic Cup, qualify for CL have a good Competition that would reap £millions, this would enable Saints to have a wage structure equal to the other top Clubs (I hate having to compare and call them this) and will never drop there progress and achievements to keep up with the Top Clubs if there's a Top 4 there's going to be a Top 5 because Saints will be there, this will attract world class Players as much as the others, look what they can have, a home in the beautiful County of Hampshire, they can relax playing on lovely Golf Courses, keep a Yacht or Cruiser outside there home and it's warmer in the South, it's my thoughts what I want for my Team and it's not impossible and beyond expectations COYR
Let us hope that Saints finish higher next season top or in the first 4, win a Domestic Cup, qualify for CL have a good Competition that would reap £millions, this would enable Saints to have a wage structure equal to the other top Clubs (I hate having to compare and call them this) and will never drop there progress and achievements to keep up with the Top Clubs if there's a Top 4 there's going to be a Top 5 because Saints will be there, this will attract world class Players as much as the others, look what they can have, a home in the beautiful County of Hampshire, they can relax playing on lovely Golf Courses, keep a Yacht or Cruiser outside there home and it's warmer in the South, it's my thoughts what I want for my Team and it's not impossible and beyond expectations COYR Malcombe
  • Score: 0

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