COMMENT: Saints right to cash in on Shaw and Lallana so quickly after World Cup

Luke Shaw and Adam Lallana

Luke Shaw and Adam Lallana

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SO much for taking the time to meet new Saints boss Ronald Koeman then!

No sooner had their feet touched the ground back in England, then Luke Shaw and Adam Lallana were busy engineering their moves away from St Mary’s.

Saints had always said they wanted Mauricio Pochettino’s replacement to meet with the wantaway pair before deciding their futures.

Well, that doesn’t appear to have happened.

Shaw and Lallana only got back to England on Wednesday and Koeman is currently out of the country on holiday prior to starting work at St Mary’s next week.

We have to believe the players didn’t want meet Koeman, or they reckoned there was no point.

Their minds were made up.

If that is indeed the case, then Saints have done the right thing in moving the players on as soon as they can.

Get the money in ready for when Koeman arrives for work.

There is no point keeping players if they want to go.

The best Saints can do is to get a good fee for Shaw and Lallana.

Nobody could really argue a fee of around £30m for a left back is not a good deal.

It’s a great deal.

Saints will only bank around £19m from Lallana’s departure as AFC Bournemouth will benefit from a 25 per cent sell on clause.

The sort of clause Saints wished they had inserted in the contract when they sold Gareth Bale to Tottenham for around £5m, then watched him join Real Madrid for £85m last summer.

Too often in football transfers drag on, the Bale one to Madrid a classic example.

At least Saints have quickly moved on two players who wanted to leave prior to the squad returning for pre season training.

It might seem Saints have sold them with undue haste, but now Koeman can take over with extra funds to spend.

Lallana and Shaw are now the past at St Mary’s.

Ronald Koeman is the future, and he is the man all Saints fans need to get behind.

Not just the supporters either.

The club’s board must ensure they financially back their new manager.

Ronald Koeman is a huge name in world football, and his presence will surely help attract quality replacements.

We thank Lallana especially for his service to Saints – Shaw has only been a regular since November 2012 – but now look to a potentially fascinating new era.

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4:22pm Fri 27 Jun 14

saintofatheism says...

Couldn't agree more, good article!
Couldn't agree more, good article! saintofatheism
  • Score: 33

4:23pm Fri 27 Jun 14

SwissToni says...

It is easy to be bitter about this, but the players have decided that their futures are better elsewhere. But lets put this in perspective, the club were bought by the Leibherrs for less than a teenage left back. Who can argue that this isn't good business?
It is easy to be bitter about this, but the players have decided that their futures are better elsewhere. But lets put this in perspective, the club were bought by the Leibherrs for less than a teenage left back. Who can argue that this isn't good business? SwissToni
  • Score: 33

4:36pm Fri 27 Jun 14

beanwalking says...

Like all good top clubs players come and players go. Southampton FC is no different. I expect at least Gaston to go along with that knob head Osvaldo. If we get £10 million each for them and reinvest the £20 million along with the £50 million from Adam and Luke that will give us the money to buy us some decent players. Thus giving us a bigger and hopefully a better squad. I am looking forward to see who RK brings in and what style of play he is going to bring to the club. Might not need Luke if he adopts 3 central backs, with Chamber Fonte and Lovren. Its all getting exciting.
Like all good top clubs players come and players go. Southampton FC is no different. I expect at least Gaston to go along with that knob head Osvaldo. If we get £10 million each for them and reinvest the £20 million along with the £50 million from Adam and Luke that will give us the money to buy us some decent players. Thus giving us a bigger and hopefully a better squad. I am looking forward to see who RK brings in and what style of play he is going to bring to the club. Might not need Luke if he adopts 3 central backs, with Chamber Fonte and Lovren. Its all getting exciting. beanwalking
  • Score: 2

4:52pm Fri 27 Jun 14

couzzy33 says...

Have to be honest here , I will always love the club and the city but getting sick and tired at being held to ransom by over paid , pampered, jumped up little cretins.
I grew up LOVING this game but maybe I'm part of the problem. I buy the shirts , I got to the games and I'd probably buy my future kids everything remotely saints branded but all the while I'm doing that I'm continually lining the pockets of the suits and the brainless who make my club tick.
As much as I hated him as a player , I can honesty say what David Bentley said recently with regards the game is so spot on, its lost its soul and whilst we continue to develop players of outstanding technical ability , its just a shame we cant develop and teach things such as loyalty, respect etc.
Have to be honest here , I will always love the club and the city but getting sick and tired at being held to ransom by over paid , pampered, jumped up little cretins. I grew up LOVING this game but maybe I'm part of the problem. I buy the shirts , I got to the games and I'd probably buy my future kids everything remotely saints branded but all the while I'm doing that I'm continually lining the pockets of the suits and the brainless who make my club tick. As much as I hated him as a player , I can honesty say what David Bentley said recently with regards the game is so spot on, its lost its soul and whilst we continue to develop players of outstanding technical ability , its just a shame we cant develop and teach things such as loyalty, respect etc. couzzy33
  • Score: 43

5:00pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Costa Baz says...

Just my opinion, but it looks like Ronko/Reed/Katharina are clearing out those that were more interested in playing for Cortese/Pochettino than the club.
If that is the case, then they have my full backing.

As long as the fees, received, are a p1ss take, and the money re-invested wisely, then I will still reserve judgement, until after the transfer window has "slammed" shut, at the end of August.
If it then goes mammaries up, then so be it.
Just my opinion, but it looks like Ronko/Reed/Katharina are clearing out those that were more interested in playing for Cortese/Pochettino than the club. If that is the case, then they have my full backing. As long as the fees, received, are a p1ss take, and the money re-invested wisely, then I will still reserve judgement, until after the transfer window has "slammed" shut, at the end of August. If it then goes mammaries up, then so be it. Costa Baz
  • Score: 14

5:07pm Fri 27 Jun 14

saints4eva12 says...

hey simon carter isn't it time change the picture now that ricky lambert has gone
hey simon carter isn't it time change the picture now that ricky lambert has gone saints4eva12
  • Score: 7

5:16pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Mr. T says...

beanwalking wrote:
Like all good top clubs players come and players go. Southampton FC is no different. I expect at least Gaston to go along with that knob head Osvaldo. If we get £10 million each for them and reinvest the £20 million along with the £50 million from Adam and Luke that will give us the money to buy us some decent players. Thus giving us a bigger and hopefully a better squad. I am looking forward to see who RK brings in and what style of play he is going to bring to the club. Might not need Luke if he adopts 3 central backs, with Chamber Fonte and Lovren. Its all getting exciting.
Agreed, Osvaldo is knob head!
[quote][p][bold]beanwalking[/bold] wrote: Like all good top clubs players come and players go. Southampton FC is no different. I expect at least Gaston to go along with that knob head Osvaldo. If we get £10 million each for them and reinvest the £20 million along with the £50 million from Adam and Luke that will give us the money to buy us some decent players. Thus giving us a bigger and hopefully a better squad. I am looking forward to see who RK brings in and what style of play he is going to bring to the club. Might not need Luke if he adopts 3 central backs, with Chamber Fonte and Lovren. Its all getting exciting.[/p][/quote]Agreed, Osvaldo is knob head! Mr. T
  • Score: 4

5:18pm Fri 27 Jun 14

thehoggsback says...

Its a dangerous game selling your players to the highest bidder the replacements need time to settle in, any more than 5 new faces and we can be playing in the championship soon, we're not even in July and Shaw and Lala have gone, rumor has it Lovren will be next then lets wait for Arse to start sniffing round spider and chambers add to that the ones we want to leave gaston and Osvaldo then i think were in trouble but i hope not.coyr
Its a dangerous game selling your players to the highest bidder the replacements need time to settle in, any more than 5 new faces and we can be playing in the championship soon, we're not even in July and Shaw and Lala have gone, rumor has it Lovren will be next then lets wait for Arse to start sniffing round spider and chambers add to that the ones we want to leave gaston and Osvaldo then i think were in trouble but i hope not.coyr thehoggsback
  • Score: 3

5:18pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Skating on thin ice says...

A few of you at least do realise what is happening. It's not "Saints" who are cashing in, but Katharina. She owns the club, and she can do what she likes with it. She's decided that pushing on for a higher league placing and European football would be too much of a gamble, and she's cashing in instead.

£50 million of the cash raised from player sales will be given to the KoKo brothers as transfer funds. They will buy some half-decent players.... The rest of the cash raised will be declared as "trading profit". Following the capital restructuring of the club during summer 2012 (have you been keeping up?), this profit can now be paid to the club's owner as a dividend. And it will be. Kit Kat will have the Board's full support of course, because they are all her placemen.

Remember that Katharina Liebherr has no documented achievements of her own. Her only claim to fame is to have inherited the wealth her father Markus generated through his engineering genius. Since his death she has liquidated the MALI companies which owned his patents, and is now moving on to extract her profit from Southampton FC.
A few of you at least do realise what is happening. It's not "Saints" who are cashing in, but Katharina. She owns the club, and she can do what she likes with it. She's decided that pushing on for a higher league placing and European football would be too much of a gamble, and she's cashing in instead. £50 million of the cash raised from player sales will be given to the KoKo brothers as transfer funds. They will buy some half-decent players.... The rest of the cash raised will be declared as "trading profit". Following the capital restructuring of the club during summer 2012 (have you been keeping up?), this profit can now be paid to the club's owner as a dividend. And it will be. Kit Kat will have the Board's full support of course, because they are all her placemen. Remember that Katharina Liebherr has no documented achievements of her own. Her only claim to fame is to have inherited the wealth her father Markus generated through his engineering genius. Since his death she has liquidated the MALI companies which owned his patents, and is now moving on to extract her profit from Southampton FC. Skating on thin ice
  • Score: -21

5:51pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Saintade says...

It's fine saying it's good business, I agree it is, but if we pull apart the spine of the team (let's face it, these 3 are our best 3 players by a mile) then we're asking for relegation trouble. It happened to Norwich last season after they had a mass exodus. Anyone thinking the club is going to let Koeman spend the money they get is living in cloud cuckoo land...we have to pay Katrina's debts back first and we have no idea what they are, but I bet they are substantial. I just feel we're all going to be disappointed with a journeyman signing here and there and we'll struggle to gel next season and it'll all end in tears. I hope I'm wrong, but I've been a Saints supporter since 1974 and I've seen it all before....Steve Williams, Alan Shearer, Bale...we never spend the money we earn. What's the bets we'll all be singing 'sack the board' by the fifth home game.....
It's fine saying it's good business, I agree it is, but if we pull apart the spine of the team (let's face it, these 3 are our best 3 players by a mile) then we're asking for relegation trouble. It happened to Norwich last season after they had a mass exodus. Anyone thinking the club is going to let Koeman spend the money they get is living in cloud cuckoo land...we have to pay Katrina's debts back first and we have no idea what they are, but I bet they are substantial. I just feel we're all going to be disappointed with a journeyman signing here and there and we'll struggle to gel next season and it'll all end in tears. I hope I'm wrong, but I've been a Saints supporter since 1974 and I've seen it all before....Steve Williams, Alan Shearer, Bale...we never spend the money we earn. What's the bets we'll all be singing 'sack the board' by the fifth home game..... Saintade
  • Score: -3

6:02pm Fri 27 Jun 14

popper says...

i read the other panicky stuff on this site (other threads) by the likes of me and others (joe public) and realise why we are NOT proffessionally writing our thoughts.

thiis is very balance and a good article. us hotheads dont see to have that capability of distancing ourselves from our emotions

will try.

We have a very good set of opening fixtures like last year and after 12 games we will know what sort of future we will have.
20 points from first 12 and we wil finish 8th or higher. Maybe a good cup run
15 points and mid table
10 or less, we are in big trouble and time to panic.

We have the manager we have all wanted. we have more money to spend that ever before. We dont have to play one-trick pony football which was wonderful to watch but the top 6 teams have copped on. we could not get any higher in the league playing like that. Mourinho killed that as a long term winning strategy.

so let Ronald sow his harvest and after 12 games, let judge his crop then.
i read the other panicky stuff on this site (other threads) by the likes of me and others (joe public) and realise why we are NOT proffessionally writing our thoughts. thiis is very balance and a good article. us hotheads dont see to have that capability of distancing ourselves from our emotions will try. We have a very good set of opening fixtures like last year and after 12 games we will know what sort of future we will have. 20 points from first 12 and we wil finish 8th or higher. Maybe a good cup run 15 points and mid table 10 or less, we are in big trouble and time to panic. We have the manager we have all wanted. we have more money to spend that ever before. We dont have to play one-trick pony football which was wonderful to watch but the top 6 teams have copped on. we could not get any higher in the league playing like that. Mourinho killed that as a long term winning strategy. so let Ronald sow his harvest and after 12 games, let judge his crop then. popper
  • Score: 10

6:03pm Fri 27 Jun 14

costa gaz says...

Happy Clappers 1 - 4 Merchants of Doom.

After pulling one back though Koeman, HC's had to deal with a quick double by Lallana and Shaw for the MoD
Morgan and lovren are hovering around the box and could pile on more misery for the Happy Clappers.
Still a long way to go in this intriguing match.
Happy Clappers 1 - 4 Merchants of Doom. After pulling one back though Koeman, HC's had to deal with a quick double by Lallana and Shaw for the MoD Morgan and lovren are hovering around the box and could pile on more misery for the Happy Clappers. Still a long way to go in this intriguing match. costa gaz
  • Score: 11

6:56pm Fri 27 Jun 14

saintsfan76 says...

If a player wants to leave there is little a club can do to stop them short of offering them more wages. As i understand it Adam wated to join Liverpool. Maybe he sees Champions League football as his next challenge. £25m will buy a good new player. Not that at the time of writing this Adam.has left yet.
If a player wants to leave there is little a club can do to stop them short of offering them more wages. As i understand it Adam wated to join Liverpool. Maybe he sees Champions League football as his next challenge. £25m will buy a good new player. Not that at the time of writing this Adam.has left yet. saintsfan76
  • Score: -2

7:04pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Costa Baz says...

costa gaz wrote:
Happy Clappers 1 - 4 Merchants of Doom.

After pulling one back though Koeman, HC's had to deal with a quick double by Lallana and Shaw for the MoD
Morgan and lovren are hovering around the box and could pile on more misery for the Happy Clappers.
Still a long way to go in this intriguing match.
Does the winner play us pragmatists?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Happy Clappers 1 - 4 Merchants of Doom. After pulling one back though Koeman, HC's had to deal with a quick double by Lallana and Shaw for the MoD Morgan and lovren are hovering around the box and could pile on more misery for the Happy Clappers. Still a long way to go in this intriguing match.[/p][/quote]Does the winner play us pragmatists? Costa Baz
  • Score: 5

8:03pm Fri 27 Jun 14

paulsfc says...

Selling players who have been tapped up and want away is a fact of life for most clubs and we are no different. The key is getting high transfer fees but most importantly having the deals for replacements done first or we will end up paying over the odds as selling clubs know we have large sums to spend. Only by moving quickly to replace the 3 players going/gone with top quality replacements will we be able to persuade those still with us to stay. If we act quickly things will hopefully stabilise, if we don't we will lose more players and all the team spirit built up over recent seasons will be lost. So Saints you've taken the money get on with it and spend it.
Selling players who have been tapped up and want away is a fact of life for most clubs and we are no different. The key is getting high transfer fees but most importantly having the deals for replacements done first or we will end up paying over the odds as selling clubs know we have large sums to spend. Only by moving quickly to replace the 3 players going/gone with top quality replacements will we be able to persuade those still with us to stay. If we act quickly things will hopefully stabilise, if we don't we will lose more players and all the team spirit built up over recent seasons will be lost. So Saints you've taken the money get on with it and spend it. paulsfc
  • Score: 5

8:20pm Fri 27 Jun 14

saintbobby says...

I think others have alluded to it, but you have to feel that getting our guys picked for England was 3 own goals. It is obvious that Gerrard et al got at them, and I would bet that Brenda gave the Liverpool guys a good briefing. The Ricky thing might be a little different, though.

Then, perhaps I am cynical, but I wonder if Roy Hodgson put his oar in as well - you know "try getting Champions's League football - it will benefit your game".

Then Poch goes. I reckon we have been trussed up like a chicken since last season finished.

All done now, we hope, so let's look forward to August. Go nuts otherwise.
I think others have alluded to it, but you have to feel that getting our guys picked for England was 3 own goals. It is obvious that Gerrard et al got at them, and I would bet that Brenda gave the Liverpool guys a good briefing. The Ricky thing might be a little different, though. Then, perhaps I am cynical, but I wonder if Roy Hodgson put his oar in as well - you know "try getting Champions's League football - it will benefit your game". Then Poch goes. I reckon we have been trussed up like a chicken since last season finished. All done now, we hope, so let's look forward to August. Go nuts otherwise. saintbobby
  • Score: 6

8:34pm Fri 27 Jun 14

deepheat says...

I don't think there is a need to sell anymore players now.

I really hope Lovren is persuaded to stay. He is top class. No way should he be allowed to go to Liverpooooh. That would be mental. I can understand Rickie and Adam wanting to go there they have paid their dues but allowing Lovren to go to Liverpooooh would make the board a laughing stock. Tto give away three players to one club in less than a month. Has that even happened before?
I don't think there is a need to sell anymore players now. I really hope Lovren is persuaded to stay. He is top class. No way should he be allowed to go to Liverpooooh. That would be mental. I can understand Rickie and Adam wanting to go there they have paid their dues but allowing Lovren to go to Liverpooooh would make the board a laughing stock. Tto give away three players to one club in less than a month. Has that even happened before? deepheat
  • Score: 6

9:43pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Chapperall says...

To be perfectly honest anything can happen now, we strengthen by bringing in top players or we have a season watching a team that struggles. I really hope it's the former but I don't know how others are thinking but I am nervous of what the future looks like.
To be perfectly honest anything can happen now, we strengthen by bringing in top players or we have a season watching a team that struggles. I really hope it's the former but I don't know how others are thinking but I am nervous of what the future looks like. Chapperall
  • Score: 4

9:46pm Fri 27 Jun 14

saintmac says...

Skating on thin ice 5.18pm
I have a horrible feeling you are right.
All the talk about RK speaking to the players was just a smoke screen from the
Board to cover up what were obviously done and dusted deals. I will take all
future statements from the Board with a large dose of salt. Imho they are not to be trusted and will sell the Club within 2 years. Those supporters who have
already bought their season tickets have every right to be angry - they have been conned.I have followed Saints for over 60 years and though very upset
at the apparant lack of loyalty from MP,LS and AL I have to wonder what has happend to change the atmosphere at the Club so drasticaly.Something is very very wrong at St Marys and as I said above it is because the players realise that the Board and KL are only interested in preparing to sell the Club.
Skating on thin ice 5.18pm I have a horrible feeling you are right. All the talk about RK speaking to the players was just a smoke screen from the Board to cover up what were obviously done and dusted deals. I will take all future statements from the Board with a large dose of salt. Imho they are not to be trusted and will sell the Club within 2 years. Those supporters who have already bought their season tickets have every right to be angry - they have been conned.I have followed Saints for over 60 years and though very upset at the apparant lack of loyalty from MP,LS and AL I have to wonder what has happend to change the atmosphere at the Club so drasticaly.Something is very very wrong at St Marys and as I said above it is because the players realise that the Board and KL are only interested in preparing to sell the Club. saintmac
  • Score: 4

10:01pm Fri 27 Jun 14

BigBugBuzzz says...

I think I will show my support and respect for Southampton and quit being a fan of the current entitets that have possesed her...
I think I will show my support and respect for Southampton and quit being a fan of the current entitets that have possesed her... BigBugBuzzz
  • Score: 2

11:49pm Fri 27 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
A few of you at least do realise what is happening. It's not "Saints" who are cashing in, but Katharina. She owns the club, and she can do what she likes with it. She's decided that pushing on for a higher league placing and European football would be too much of a gamble, and she's cashing in instead.

£50 million of the cash raised from player sales will be given to the KoKo brothers as transfer funds. They will buy some half-decent players.... The rest of the cash raised will be declared as "trading profit". Following the capital restructuring of the club during summer 2012 (have you been keeping up?), this profit can now be paid to the club's owner as a dividend. And it will be. Kit Kat will have the Board's full support of course, because they are all her placemen.

Remember that Katharina Liebherr has no documented achievements of her own. Her only claim to fame is to have inherited the wealth her father Markus generated through his engineering genius. Since his death she has liquidated the MALI companies which owned his patents, and is now moving on to extract her profit from Southampton FC.
Herpes is back.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: A few of you at least do realise what is happening. It's not "Saints" who are cashing in, but Katharina. She owns the club, and she can do what she likes with it. She's decided that pushing on for a higher league placing and European football would be too much of a gamble, and she's cashing in instead. £50 million of the cash raised from player sales will be given to the KoKo brothers as transfer funds. They will buy some half-decent players.... The rest of the cash raised will be declared as "trading profit". Following the capital restructuring of the club during summer 2012 (have you been keeping up?), this profit can now be paid to the club's owner as a dividend. And it will be. Kit Kat will have the Board's full support of course, because they are all her placemen. Remember that Katharina Liebherr has no documented achievements of her own. Her only claim to fame is to have inherited the wealth her father Markus generated through his engineering genius. Since his death she has liquidated the MALI companies which owned his patents, and is now moving on to extract her profit from Southampton FC.[/p][/quote]Herpes is back. jls217
  • Score: 1

5:46am Sat 28 Jun 14

talbot says...

NO NO NO NO THIS IS BAD FOR SAINTS
NO NO NO NO THIS IS BAD FOR SAINTS talbot
  • Score: 4

7:03am Sat 28 Jun 14

search for truth says...

Quote from Daily Telegraph

6:55PM BST 17 Aug 2010

Southampton, known as the Saints, had suffered several years of decline when Liebherr, previously unheard-of in Britain, emerged as a buyer in July 2009. The club had just been relegated from the Football League Championship to League One, having suffered a 10-point deduction because its parent company had gone into administration.

Bankruptcy threatened when a consortium led by the former Saints star Matt le Tissier withdrew a tentative offer. But Liebherr then stepped forward with a Swiss banker, Nicola Cortese, at his side, and made an offer for the club – within two hours of setting foot inside the St Mary's ground – that was believed to have been around £13 million.

--------------------


---

Assuming what I said earlier about the sale and replacement of players and the fact that Southampton are now in Premier League, now would be the right time to put the club on the market if you wanted to get out ( which the press have always said she wanted to do ). You would make a good profit over the £ 13 million paid for it when it was bought after being relegated to Div. 1.
Quote from Daily Telegraph 6:55PM BST 17 Aug 2010 Southampton, known as the Saints, had suffered several years of decline when Liebherr, previously unheard-of in Britain, emerged as a buyer in July 2009. The club had just been relegated from the Football League Championship to League One, having suffered a 10-point deduction because its parent company had gone into administration. Bankruptcy threatened when a consortium led by the former Saints star Matt le Tissier withdrew a tentative offer. But Liebherr then stepped forward with a Swiss banker, Nicola Cortese, at his side, and made an offer for the club – within two hours of setting foot inside the St Mary's ground – that was believed to have been around £13 million. -------------------- --- Assuming what I said earlier about the sale and replacement of players and the fact that Southampton are now in Premier League, now would be the right time to put the club on the market if you wanted to get out ( which the press have always said she wanted to do ). You would make a good profit over the £ 13 million paid for it when it was bought after being relegated to Div. 1. search for truth
  • Score: 2

11:03am Sat 28 Jun 14

MiltonRoad says...

To all the merchants of doom.........can you please add to any posts what you would have done differently. The common thread is that player sales equal a conspiracy to asset strip and then sell our club. But let's assume these players have walked in and said they don't want to play for Southampton any more. You can waive contracts in their faces but this is a team game and you need a squad willing to give everything for the cause. If a player is determined to go, that will not happen. So, in my mind, the Board has one duty, to extract as much value as they can for the player and as far as I can see, that is what they have done with Shaw and Lallana.
Don't get me wrong, I am as unhappy as anyone about this. The Woy effect, big clubs tapping up our players, the lack of loyalty shown by our ex-manager and players all make me sick. But that is the reality of football today. The only consolation is Man U have been on the other side of this (Ronaldo), Arsenal have been on the other side (multiple examples, RVP, Nasri, etc) and so, I hope (more than anything) will Liverpool whine Real Madrid come in and give them a bit of their own medicine (Suarez).
To all the merchants of doom.........can you please add to any posts what you would have done differently. The common thread is that player sales equal a conspiracy to asset strip and then sell our club. But let's assume these players have walked in and said they don't want to play for Southampton any more. You can waive contracts in their faces but this is a team game and you need a squad willing to give everything for the cause. If a player is determined to go, that will not happen. So, in my mind, the Board has one duty, to extract as much value as they can for the player and as far as I can see, that is what they have done with Shaw and Lallana. Don't get me wrong, I am as unhappy as anyone about this. The Woy effect, big clubs tapping up our players, the lack of loyalty shown by our ex-manager and players all make me sick. But that is the reality of football today. The only consolation is Man U have been on the other side of this (Ronaldo), Arsenal have been on the other side (multiple examples, RVP, Nasri, etc) and so, I hope (more than anything) will Liverpool whine Real Madrid come in and give them a bit of their own medicine (Suarez). MiltonRoad
  • Score: 2

11:41am Sat 28 Jun 14

spratt says...

saintbobby wrote:
I think others have alluded to it, but you have to feel that getting our guys picked for England was 3 own goals. It is obvious that Gerrard et al got at them, and I would bet that Brenda gave the Liverpool guys a good briefing. The Ricky thing might be a little different, though.

Then, perhaps I am cynical, but I wonder if Roy Hodgson put his oar in as well - you know "try getting Champions's League football - it will benefit your game".

Then Poch goes. I reckon we have been trussed up like a chicken since last season finished.

All done now, we hope, so let's look forward to August. Go nuts otherwise.
Agree with this 100%. Hodgson hovering around St Marys was the start of all this transfer activity. Our 2 best players being selected for England was the last straw. The departed manager surely also played a part in all this and yes other England "failed stars". Still lets see how the money is spent. Could all turn out for the best. Lets wait and see.
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: I think others have alluded to it, but you have to feel that getting our guys picked for England was 3 own goals. It is obvious that Gerrard et al got at them, and I would bet that Brenda gave the Liverpool guys a good briefing. The Ricky thing might be a little different, though. Then, perhaps I am cynical, but I wonder if Roy Hodgson put his oar in as well - you know "try getting Champions's League football - it will benefit your game". Then Poch goes. I reckon we have been trussed up like a chicken since last season finished. All done now, we hope, so let's look forward to August. Go nuts otherwise.[/p][/quote]Agree with this 100%. Hodgson hovering around St Marys was the start of all this transfer activity. Our 2 best players being selected for England was the last straw. The departed manager surely also played a part in all this and yes other England "failed stars". Still lets see how the money is spent. Could all turn out for the best. Lets wait and see. spratt
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12:01pm Sat 28 Jun 14

noodlesnewman says...

spratt wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
I think others have alluded to it, but you have to feel that getting our guys picked for England was 3 own goals. It is obvious that Gerrard et al got at them, and I would bet that Brenda gave the Liverpool guys a good briefing. The Ricky thing might be a little different, though.

Then, perhaps I am cynical, but I wonder if Roy Hodgson put his oar in as well - you know "try getting Champions's League football - it will benefit your game".

Then Poch goes. I reckon we have been trussed up like a chicken since last season finished.

All done now, we hope, so let's look forward to August. Go nuts otherwise.
Agree with this 100%. Hodgson hovering around St Marys was the start of all this transfer activity. Our 2 best players being selected for England was the last straw. The departed manager surely also played a part in all this and yes other England "failed stars". Still lets see how the money is spent. Could all turn out for the best. Lets wait and see.
Who s gonna want to come to a club that sells its gems on to make other clubs like man u and diverpool great ? i ask you ? very worried now , such empty words from les and ralph ! think we are in trouble now ...
[quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: I think others have alluded to it, but you have to feel that getting our guys picked for England was 3 own goals. It is obvious that Gerrard et al got at them, and I would bet that Brenda gave the Liverpool guys a good briefing. The Ricky thing might be a little different, though. Then, perhaps I am cynical, but I wonder if Roy Hodgson put his oar in as well - you know "try getting Champions's League football - it will benefit your game". Then Poch goes. I reckon we have been trussed up like a chicken since last season finished. All done now, we hope, so let's look forward to August. Go nuts otherwise.[/p][/quote]Agree with this 100%. Hodgson hovering around St Marys was the start of all this transfer activity. Our 2 best players being selected for England was the last straw. The departed manager surely also played a part in all this and yes other England "failed stars". Still lets see how the money is spent. Could all turn out for the best. Lets wait and see.[/p][/quote]Who s gonna want to come to a club that sells its gems on to make other clubs like man u and diverpool great ? i ask you ? very worried now , such empty words from les and ralph ! think we are in trouble now ... noodlesnewman
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7:46am Mon 30 Jun 14

Firesale says...

Look at who you are linked with to replace these players, players from the Dutch league at 10 million or less a pop, and with much lower wages.

Add to that an out of work manager, so no compensation.

Than ask yourself, where is that extra money going?
Look at who you are linked with to replace these players, players from the Dutch league at 10 million or less a pop, and with much lower wages. Add to that an out of work manager, so no compensation. Than ask yourself, where is that extra money going? Firesale
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