Saints midfielder Morgan Schneiderlin linked with move to Arsenal

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Arsenal are being linked with a move for Saints midfielder Morgan Schneiderlin.

According to reports in the French press, the Gunners have edged ahead of north London rivals Tottenham in the race to sign the 24-year-old.

Schneiderlin, the only Saints player left in the World Cup, could see action tonight as France take on Nigeria for a place in the quarter-finals

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12:44pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Big Mac says...

According to the french press, it's OK for women to have hairy armpits, can you believe what they come up with!
According to the french press, it's OK for women to have hairy armpits, can you believe what they come up with! Big Mac
  • Score: 8

12:46pm Sun 29 Jun 14

bullsbags says...

For goodness sake why are you telling us something we already know
Instead of sitting at home in your jim jams watching SSNand reading the sports pages,why don't you indulge in some real journalism and find out WHO WE MIGHT SIGN!-
For goodness sake why are you telling us something we already know Instead of sitting at home in your jim jams watching SSNand reading the sports pages,why don't you indulge in some real journalism and find out WHO WE MIGHT SIGN!- bullsbags
  • Score: 20

12:49pm Sun 29 Jun 14

willygetaway says...

time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people
Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks
time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks willygetaway
  • Score: -18

1:01pm Sun 29 Jun 14

buckie says...

if as expected Spider lalla Lovern wanyama (he can go anyway) and other players leave that we have not heard off yet can we get a refund on our season ticket money? i save for 6 months off the year to be able to purchase my ticket what has really riled me is for the first time in i would say over 20 years they bring the early re-newel date forward by a month then sell all our players before the end of June saints have to me mis sold my season ticket if i cant get a refund i will go but next season will be a different matter as seems plausible we have to rebulid our team is all we are going to get is cheap foreign imports and certainly not 3 current England internationals as we did have
if as expected Spider lalla Lovern wanyama (he can go anyway) and other players leave that we have not heard off yet can we get a refund on our season ticket money? i save for 6 months off the year to be able to purchase my ticket what has really riled me is for the first time in i would say over 20 years they bring the early re-newel date forward by a month then sell all our players before the end of June saints have to me mis sold my season ticket if i cant get a refund i will go but next season will be a different matter as seems plausible we have to rebulid our team is all we are going to get is cheap foreign imports and certainly not 3 current England internationals as we did have buckie
  • Score: -5

1:05pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Shareholder says...

willygetaway wrote:
time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people
Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks
Quite ridiculous. Most of the moves we're seeing have been on the cards for over a season. It was obvious that once they started to shine in the Premiership these 'stars' would attract the attention of the big boys. And attack the board at your peril. Just cast your mind back to the days of administration - shouldn't be hard, it wasn't long ago - and be thankful for where we are and who got us here. Selling doesn't guarantee success. I'd rather stick with the sensible and pragmatic owners we have than risk getting a loony tycoon or dodgy sheikh thanks all the same. Even with these departures there's still a lot of very good players, a very good manager and a shed loaf of money for new stars. Time to move on and see the positives - there's many after all.
[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks[/p][/quote]Quite ridiculous. Most of the moves we're seeing have been on the cards for over a season. It was obvious that once they started to shine in the Premiership these 'stars' would attract the attention of the big boys. And attack the board at your peril. Just cast your mind back to the days of administration - shouldn't be hard, it wasn't long ago - and be thankful for where we are and who got us here. Selling doesn't guarantee success. I'd rather stick with the sensible and pragmatic owners we have than risk getting a loony tycoon or dodgy sheikh thanks all the same. Even with these departures there's still a lot of very good players, a very good manager and a shed loaf of money for new stars. Time to move on and see the positives - there's many after all. Shareholder
  • Score: 71

1:14pm Sun 29 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

bullsbags wrote:
For goodness sake why are you telling us something we already know
Instead of sitting at home in your jim jams watching SSNand reading the sports pages,why don't you indulge in some real journalism and find out WHO WE MIGHT SIGN!-
Probably because they don't have any real journalists at the DE, just cut and paste merchants.
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake why are you telling us something we already know Instead of sitting at home in your jim jams watching SSNand reading the sports pages,why don't you indulge in some real journalism and find out WHO WE MIGHT SIGN!-[/p][/quote]Probably because they don't have any real journalists at the DE, just cut and paste merchants. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 11

1:15pm Sun 29 Jun 14

hedge end bob says...

Lets hope the board sets the fee and not the buyer . 15-20 MILLION IMO and nothing less , 80% of the money up front and the rest in a year. 20% sell on clause in future transfer. . TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. You want him and he won't come cheap.
Lets hope the board sets the fee and not the buyer . 15-20 MILLION IMO and nothing less , 80% of the money up front and the rest in a year. 20% sell on clause in future transfer. . TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. You want him and he won't come cheap. hedge end bob
  • Score: 11

1:18pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Outside of the Box says...

buckie wrote:
if as expected Spider lalla Lovern wanyama (he can go anyway) and other players leave that we have not heard off yet can we get a refund on our season ticket money? i save for 6 months off the year to be able to purchase my ticket what has really riled me is for the first time in i would say over 20 years they bring the early re-newel date forward by a month then sell all our players before the end of June saints have to me mis sold my season ticket if i cant get a refund i will go but next season will be a different matter as seems plausible we have to rebulid our team is all we are going to get is cheap foreign imports and certainly not 3 current England internationals as we did have
If these so called cheap foreign imports (as you say) prove to be better than what has gone are you going to pay extra for your ST? It's name on the front of the shirt that matters.

Would you be saying the same if it Gaston or Dani Osvaldo? I doubt it. We got £30m+ for a kid who played 30 games. No club in their right mind would turn that down. £3m for a 32 year old who will never see an England shirt again and is getting near the end of his days. He wasn't as good last season as he was the one before. As for £18.75m for Lallana hewanted out as soon as he got called up for England. If he gets 20 caps I will be surprised.

Football is a business Southampton FC have done good business with the approval of the new manager. Ron would not have sanctioned these deals without having ready made replacements lined up. Let's just wait and see who we sign before asking for our money back.
[quote][p][bold]buckie[/bold] wrote: if as expected Spider lalla Lovern wanyama (he can go anyway) and other players leave that we have not heard off yet can we get a refund on our season ticket money? i save for 6 months off the year to be able to purchase my ticket what has really riled me is for the first time in i would say over 20 years they bring the early re-newel date forward by a month then sell all our players before the end of June saints have to me mis sold my season ticket if i cant get a refund i will go but next season will be a different matter as seems plausible we have to rebulid our team is all we are going to get is cheap foreign imports and certainly not 3 current England internationals as we did have[/p][/quote]If these so called cheap foreign imports (as you say) prove to be better than what has gone are you going to pay extra for your ST? It's name on the front of the shirt that matters. Would you be saying the same if it Gaston or Dani Osvaldo? I doubt it. We got £30m+ for a kid who played 30 games. No club in their right mind would turn that down. £3m for a 32 year old who will never see an England shirt again and is getting near the end of his days. He wasn't as good last season as he was the one before. As for £18.75m for Lallana hewanted out as soon as he got called up for England. If he gets 20 caps I will be surprised. Football is a business Southampton FC have done good business with the approval of the new manager. Ron would not have sanctioned these deals without having ready made replacements lined up. Let's just wait and see who we sign before asking for our money back. Outside of the Box
  • Score: 68

1:26pm Sun 29 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

willygetaway wrote:
time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people
Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks
The problem is even if the club was sold it would not stop players who are determined to leave from leaving, they usually end up getting their own way by putting in a transfer request.
[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks[/p][/quote]The problem is even if the club was sold it would not stop players who are determined to leave from leaving, they usually end up getting their own way by putting in a transfer request. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 17

1:33pm Sun 29 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

NO TO 35 MILLION (Current Market Valuation) TO SPIDER MOVE. COYR
NO TO 35 MILLION (Current Market Valuation) TO SPIDER MOVE. COYR The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 2

1:34pm Sun 29 Jun 14

willygetaway says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people
Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks
The problem is even if the club was sold it would not stop players who are determined to leave from leaving, they usually end up getting their own way by putting in a transfer request.
they dont seem to get it at Leicester, spurs, WBA, everton ,stoke , hull shall i go on ?
we either stick our heads in the sand or stand up for the club against these boardroom clowns. its like the dark lord days all over again.
ohh, and to the other comments tell me how a bag of cash challenges for Europe ??
i like some others watched the reserve team last season , and apart from reed no-one else really stood out against bristol rovers (think about it ) ?
COYR
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks[/p][/quote]The problem is even if the club was sold it would not stop players who are determined to leave from leaving, they usually end up getting their own way by putting in a transfer request.[/p][/quote]they dont seem to get it at Leicester, spurs, WBA, everton ,stoke , hull shall i go on ? we either stick our heads in the sand or stand up for the club against these boardroom clowns. its like the dark lord days all over again. ohh, and to the other comments tell me how a bag of cash challenges for Europe ?? i like some others watched the reserve team last season , and apart from reed no-one else really stood out against bristol rovers (think about it ) ? COYR willygetaway
  • Score: -20

1:41pm Sun 29 Jun 14

richard903 says...

When we bought Morgan, the press said Arssnil wanted him and have repeated this every summer , if so why did they wait until now? He is now an international and worth mega bucks. I think he would go there but do they need him, He did say that he wanted to play for a big club one day so spuds is out, I really hope he stays I think he is our best player
When we bought Morgan, the press said Arssnil wanted him and have repeated this every summer , if so why did they wait until now? He is now an international and worth mega bucks. I think he would go there but do they need him, He did say that he wanted to play for a big club one day so spuds is out, I really hope he stays I think he is our best player richard903
  • Score: 15

1:44pm Sun 29 Jun 14

bullsbags says...

richard903 wrote:
When we bought Morgan, the press said Arssnil wanted him and have repeated this every summer , if so why did they wait until now? He is now an international and worth mega bucks. I think he would go there but do they need him, He did say that he wanted to play for a big club one day so spuds is out, I really hope he stays I think he is our best player
He is now!
[quote][p][bold]richard903[/bold] wrote: When we bought Morgan, the press said Arssnil wanted him and have repeated this every summer , if so why did they wait until now? He is now an international and worth mega bucks. I think he would go there but do they need him, He did say that he wanted to play for a big club one day so spuds is out, I really hope he stays I think he is our best player[/p][/quote]He is now! bullsbags
  • Score: 12

1:51pm Sun 29 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

willygetaway wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people
Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks
The problem is even if the club was sold it would not stop players who are determined to leave from leaving, they usually end up getting their own way by putting in a transfer request.
they dont seem to get it at Leicester, spurs, WBA, everton ,stoke , hull shall i go on ?
we either stick our heads in the sand or stand up for the club against these boardroom clowns. its like the dark lord days all over again.
ohh, and to the other comments tell me how a bag of cash challenges for Europe ??
i like some others watched the reserve team last season , and apart from reed no-one else really stood out against bristol rovers (think about it ) ?
COYR
I expect Spurs and Everton have to pay big wages to keep their players sweet, as for Leicester, Hull, Stoke and West Brom they probably haven't got the calibre of player that the top clubs are looking for.
[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks[/p][/quote]The problem is even if the club was sold it would not stop players who are determined to leave from leaving, they usually end up getting their own way by putting in a transfer request.[/p][/quote]they dont seem to get it at Leicester, spurs, WBA, everton ,stoke , hull shall i go on ? we either stick our heads in the sand or stand up for the club against these boardroom clowns. its like the dark lord days all over again. ohh, and to the other comments tell me how a bag of cash challenges for Europe ?? i like some others watched the reserve team last season , and apart from reed no-one else really stood out against bristol rovers (think about it ) ? COYR[/p][/quote]I expect Spurs and Everton have to pay big wages to keep their players sweet, as for Leicester, Hull, Stoke and West Brom they probably haven't got the calibre of player that the top clubs are looking for. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 13

2:01pm Sun 29 Jun 14

SaintsSteve says...

willygetaway wrote:
time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people
Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks
totally agree with u katarina is ripping the heart out of this club i bet markus is turning in his grave time for her 2 go before she does any more damage and yes i do remember where we were 5 yrs ago with this board in charge it wont belong before were back there again if this carries on
[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks[/p][/quote]totally agree with u katarina is ripping the heart out of this club i bet markus is turning in his grave time for her 2 go before she does any more damage and yes i do remember where we were 5 yrs ago with this board in charge it wont belong before were back there again if this carries on SaintsSteve
  • Score: -38

2:04pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Rocket 1 says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people
Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks
The problem is even if the club was sold it would not stop players who are determined to leave from leaving, they usually end up getting their own way by putting in a transfer request.
they dont seem to get it at Leicester, spurs, WBA, everton ,stoke , hull shall i go on ?
we either stick our heads in the sand or stand up for the club against these boardroom clowns. its like the dark lord days all over again.
ohh, and to the other comments tell me how a bag of cash challenges for Europe ??
i like some others watched the reserve team last season , and apart from reed no-one else really stood out against bristol rovers (think about it ) ?
COYR
I expect Spurs and Everton have to pay big wages to keep their players sweet, as for Leicester, Hull, Stoke and West Brom they probably haven't got the calibre of player that the top clubs are looking for.
They are only "so" called big clubs because they steal our FU&KIN PLAYERS, Saints could be a Big Club if we kept our Players.............
..............
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks[/p][/quote]The problem is even if the club was sold it would not stop players who are determined to leave from leaving, they usually end up getting their own way by putting in a transfer request.[/p][/quote]they dont seem to get it at Leicester, spurs, WBA, everton ,stoke , hull shall i go on ? we either stick our heads in the sand or stand up for the club against these boardroom clowns. its like the dark lord days all over again. ohh, and to the other comments tell me how a bag of cash challenges for Europe ?? i like some others watched the reserve team last season , and apart from reed no-one else really stood out against bristol rovers (think about it ) ? COYR[/p][/quote]I expect Spurs and Everton have to pay big wages to keep their players sweet, as for Leicester, Hull, Stoke and West Brom they probably haven't got the calibre of player that the top clubs are looking for.[/p][/quote]They are only "so" called big clubs because they steal our FU&KIN PLAYERS, Saints could be a Big Club if we kept our Players............. .............. Rocket 1
  • Score: 4

2:05pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Public Health says...

buckie wrote:
if as expected Spider lalla Lovern wanyama (he can go anyway) and other players leave that we have not heard off yet can we get a refund on our season ticket money? i save for 6 months off the year to be able to purchase my ticket what has really riled me is for the first time in i would say over 20 years they bring the early re-newel date forward by a month then sell all our players before the end of June saints have to me mis sold my season ticket if i cant get a refund i will go but next season will be a different matter as seems plausible we have to rebulid our team is all we are going to get is cheap foreign imports and certainly not 3 current England internationals as we did have
feels a bit like buying tickets to see Darcy Bussell at Covent Garden and getting to see the understudy
[quote][p][bold]buckie[/bold] wrote: if as expected Spider lalla Lovern wanyama (he can go anyway) and other players leave that we have not heard off yet can we get a refund on our season ticket money? i save for 6 months off the year to be able to purchase my ticket what has really riled me is for the first time in i would say over 20 years they bring the early re-newel date forward by a month then sell all our players before the end of June saints have to me mis sold my season ticket if i cant get a refund i will go but next season will be a different matter as seems plausible we have to rebulid our team is all we are going to get is cheap foreign imports and certainly not 3 current England internationals as we did have[/p][/quote]feels a bit like buying tickets to see Darcy Bussell at Covent Garden and getting to see the understudy Public Health
  • Score: -1

2:08pm Sun 29 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

As I've said several times, if you show you are open to offers and willing to sell your best players you will open the floodgates.

It was clear that several clubs would wait to see what happened with Adam and Luke before making a move and expect offers for all our best players in the coming days. We asked for it by firstly saying we'd listen to offers and secondly bowing to player pressure.

I'd be highly surprised if Morgan, Lovren, Clyne and more aren't unsettled and waiting to see what comes in and, rightly, they'll feel that, if Adam and Luke can get their moves, so can we.

Weak management by the board as it has been since February, now they either choose a time to get hard or see the rest of the squad queue for the exit.

Having a lot of money is one thing, but when people know you have it and know you are not ruthless in terms of negotiation, they will take advantage.

Now, we could luck out and get a great hit rate with any new signings, yes, but that is a major risk as seen with the amount of expensive duds bought by Premier League teams last season.

Personally, if I was on the board I'd have felt we'd have been better holding what we had and, from January on, said (and actually backed it with action) that any enquiries would be met with a stern NO. Then everyone - players, agents and other clubs, know not to bother.

Of course we did say that, but turned out to be pretty hollow in the end and, once the players etc got wind of that weak stance and lack of resolve, they took advantage.

Not saying we can't recover, but this has been a great example of how now to manage the end of a successful season.
As I've said several times, if you show you are open to offers and willing to sell your best players you will open the floodgates. It was clear that several clubs would wait to see what happened with Adam and Luke before making a move and expect offers for all our best players in the coming days. We asked for it by firstly saying we'd listen to offers and secondly bowing to player pressure. I'd be highly surprised if Morgan, Lovren, Clyne and more aren't unsettled and waiting to see what comes in and, rightly, they'll feel that, if Adam and Luke can get their moves, so can we. Weak management by the board as it has been since February, now they either choose a time to get hard or see the rest of the squad queue for the exit. Having a lot of money is one thing, but when people know you have it and know you are not ruthless in terms of negotiation, they will take advantage. Now, we could luck out and get a great hit rate with any new signings, yes, but that is a major risk as seen with the amount of expensive duds bought by Premier League teams last season. Personally, if I was on the board I'd have felt we'd have been better holding what we had and, from January on, said (and actually backed it with action) that any enquiries would be met with a stern NO. Then everyone - players, agents and other clubs, know not to bother. Of course we did say that, but turned out to be pretty hollow in the end and, once the players etc got wind of that weak stance and lack of resolve, they took advantage. Not saying we can't recover, but this has been a great example of how now to manage the end of a successful season. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

2:10pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Dave Brown says...

The manner in which the players are leaving St Mary's at this moment of time,
I reckon Le Tiss ,Channon and even Terry Paine have a chance of making the line up at Liverpool for the first game.
The manner in which the players are leaving St Mary's at this moment of time, I reckon Le Tiss ,Channon and even Terry Paine have a chance of making the line up at Liverpool for the first game. Dave Brown
  • Score: 4

2:17pm Sun 29 Jun 14

bullsbags says...

buckie wrote:
if as expected Spider lalla Lovern wanyama (he can go anyway) and other players leave that we have not heard off yet can we get a refund on our season ticket money? i save for 6 months off the year to be able to purchase my ticket what has really riled me is for the first time in i would say over 20 years they bring the early re-newel date forward by a month then sell all our players before the end of June saints have to me mis sold my season ticket if i cant get a refund i will go but next season will be a different matter as seems plausible we have to rebulid our team is all we are going to get is cheap foreign imports and certainly not 3 current England internationals as we did have
Don't worry next season your ticket will be cheaper and you will get more bang for your buck,8 games to be precise
I agree with your point 100%
What the idiots who run the club don't seem to realise is £650 is a lot of money to some people ,baring in mind the snide way renewals had to be done early and the fact that the team that kicks off against Liverpool will in no way resemble the team that kicked off against the mancs on May 11th if the board had an ounce of decency they would offer a refund to any one who wants one
Before the I support my team whatever brigade start what the club has done is one step short of breaking the trade descriptions act
[quote][p][bold]buckie[/bold] wrote: if as expected Spider lalla Lovern wanyama (he can go anyway) and other players leave that we have not heard off yet can we get a refund on our season ticket money? i save for 6 months off the year to be able to purchase my ticket what has really riled me is for the first time in i would say over 20 years they bring the early re-newel date forward by a month then sell all our players before the end of June saints have to me mis sold my season ticket if i cant get a refund i will go but next season will be a different matter as seems plausible we have to rebulid our team is all we are going to get is cheap foreign imports and certainly not 3 current England internationals as we did have[/p][/quote]Don't worry next season your ticket will be cheaper and you will get more bang for your buck,8 games to be precise I agree with your point 100% What the idiots who run the club don't seem to realise is £650 is a lot of money to some people ,baring in mind the snide way renewals had to be done early and the fact that the team that kicks off against Liverpool will in no way resemble the team that kicked off against the mancs on May 11th if the board had an ounce of decency they would offer a refund to any one who wants one Before the I support my team whatever brigade start what the club has done is one step short of breaking the trade descriptions act bullsbags
  • Score: -1

2:19pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Smuggins2 says...

Koeman has obviously approved all this. The Club has a plan so why not wait and see what happens before spitting your dummy out. Scheiderln's value has increased since the WC and must be at least equal to Lallana.
I would not be surprised if he is offered the captaincy and a pay rise to get him to stay.
Koeman has obviously approved all this. The Club has a plan so why not wait and see what happens before spitting your dummy out. Scheiderln's value has increased since the WC and must be at least equal to Lallana. I would not be surprised if he is offered the captaincy and a pay rise to get him to stay. Smuggins2
  • Score: 21

2:20pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Dave Brown says...

Will this be the next comment to be released from Southampton F.C.
There will be a training session at Staplewood on Monday 30th June.
Anyone with a pair of colourful pair of boots welcome to attend.
Will this be the next comment to be released from Southampton F.C. There will be a training session at Staplewood on Monday 30th June. Anyone with a pair of colourful pair of boots welcome to attend. Dave Brown
  • Score: -1

2:22pm Sun 29 Jun 14

charliewayman says...

The way I see it is this, Saints swept to 8th in top flight on the crest of wave following successive promotions. They had a settled side and a winning mentality.
The question I ask myself now is, will the players that leave the club be as comfortable fitting into a team operating under a different culture and philosophy to what they have been used to since they joined Southampton at such a young age.
To my mind It seems pretty obvious that next season the bulk of the team that we knew and loved will be broken up and we will have to start again.
Having been a season ticket holder since 1976 I have experienced the extreme highs and lows of supporting the team and many times felt like throwing the towel in but certainly not at the moment.
I think we will struggle but one thing I find encouraging is that we have engaged a proven manager in Ronald Koeman and with this in mind should be able to maintain our position in top flight and maybe extract revenge on some of the so called bigger clubs with their plastic supporters.
The way I see it is this, Saints swept to 8th in top flight on the crest of wave following successive promotions. They had a settled side and a winning mentality. The question I ask myself now is, will the players that leave the club be as comfortable fitting into a team operating under a different culture and philosophy to what they have been used to since they joined Southampton at such a young age. To my mind It seems pretty obvious that next season the bulk of the team that we knew and loved will be broken up and we will have to start again. Having been a season ticket holder since 1976 I have experienced the extreme highs and lows of supporting the team and many times felt like throwing the towel in but certainly not at the moment. I think we will struggle but one thing I find encouraging is that we have engaged a proven manager in Ronald Koeman and with this in mind should be able to maintain our position in top flight and maybe extract revenge on some of the so called bigger clubs with their plastic supporters. charliewayman
  • Score: 18

3:01pm Sun 29 Jun 14

upwherewebelong says...

Shareholder wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people
Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks
Quite ridiculous. Most of the moves we're seeing have been on the cards for over a season. It was obvious that once they started to shine in the Premiership these 'stars' would attract the attention of the big boys. And attack the board at your peril. Just cast your mind back to the days of administration - shouldn't be hard, it wasn't long ago - and be thankful for where we are and who got us here. Selling doesn't guarantee success. I'd rather stick with the sensible and pragmatic owners we have than risk getting a loony tycoon or dodgy sheikh thanks all the same. Even with these departures there's still a lot of very good players, a very good manager and a shed loaf of money for new stars. Time to move on and see the positives - there's many after all.
Fair enough post BUT what are the positives ??

A thread bare squad from last year has been weakened by the release of about 6 players and then the sale of 3 more already with more to come.

Lets try and list who we have lost

Fox - Fair enough wasn't good enough for Premier League
Shaw - Ridiculously low price if 27m is all we got with a possible 4m extra if the weather is right
- Those two mean we have no left back or cover

Do Prado - Fair enough as wasn't good enough for 2 managers to use him
Barnard - Not good enough
Forte- Never really got to see enough of him to form a judgement
Lambert - Right deal for Lambert but 4m was ridiculously cheap.

So what are these positives again ?
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks[/p][/quote]Quite ridiculous. Most of the moves we're seeing have been on the cards for over a season. It was obvious that once they started to shine in the Premiership these 'stars' would attract the attention of the big boys. And attack the board at your peril. Just cast your mind back to the days of administration - shouldn't be hard, it wasn't long ago - and be thankful for where we are and who got us here. Selling doesn't guarantee success. I'd rather stick with the sensible and pragmatic owners we have than risk getting a loony tycoon or dodgy sheikh thanks all the same. Even with these departures there's still a lot of very good players, a very good manager and a shed loaf of money for new stars. Time to move on and see the positives - there's many after all.[/p][/quote]Fair enough post BUT what are the positives ?? A thread bare squad from last year has been weakened by the release of about 6 players and then the sale of 3 more already with more to come. Lets try and list who we have lost Fox - Fair enough wasn't good enough for Premier League Shaw - Ridiculously low price if 27m is all we got with a possible 4m extra if the weather is right - Those two mean we have no left back or cover Do Prado - Fair enough as wasn't good enough for 2 managers to use him Barnard - Not good enough Forte- Never really got to see enough of him to form a judgement Lambert - Right deal for Lambert but 4m was ridiculously cheap. So what are these positives again ? upwherewebelong
  • Score: -5

3:07pm Sun 29 Jun 14

upwherewebelong says...

Wonder if this board are aware of this clause in the Sale of Goods Act 1979

14 Implied terms about quality or fitness.

(1)Except as provided by this section and section 15 below and subject to any other enactment, there is no implied about the quality or fitness for any particular purpose of goods supplied under a contract of sale.

Wonder if this board are aware of this clause in the Sale of Goods Act 1979 14 Implied terms about quality or fitness. (1)Except as provided by this section and section 15 below and subject to any other enactment, there is no implied [F11term] about the quality or fitness for any particular purpose of goods supplied under a contract of sale. [F12(2)Where the seller sells goods in the course of a business, there is an implied term that the goods supplied under the contract are of satisfactory quality. (2A)For the purposes of this Act, goods are of satisfactory quality if they meet the standard that a reasonable person would regard as satisfactory, taking account of any description of the goods, the price (if relevant) and all the other relevant circumstances. (2B)For the purposes of this Act, the quality of goods includes their state and condition and the following (among others) are in appropriate cases aspects of the quality of goods— (a)fitness for all the purposes for which goods of the kind in question are commonly supplied, (b)appearance and finish, (c)freedom from minor defects, (d)safety, and (e)durability. (2C)The term implied by subsection (2) above does not extend to any matter making the quality of goods unsatisfactory— (a)which is specifically drawn to the buyer’s attention before the contract is made, (b)where the buyer examines the goods before the contract is made, which that examination ought to reveal, or (c)in the case of a contract for sale by sample, which would have been apparent on a reasonable examination of the sample.] upwherewebelong
  • Score: -6

3:09pm Sun 29 Jun 14

upwherewebelong says...

[F12(2)Where the seller sells goods in the course of a business, there is an implied term that the goods supplied under the contract are of satisfactory quality. (2A)For the purposes of this Act, goods are of satisfactory quality if they meet the standard that a reasonable person would regard as satisfactory, taking account of any description of the goods, the price (if relevant) and all the other relevant circumstances. (2B)For the purposes of this Act, the quality of goods includes their state and condition and the following (among others) are in appropriate cases aspects of the quality of goods— (a)fitness for all the purposes for which goods of the kind in question are commonly supplied, (b)appearance and finish, (c)freedom from minor defects, (d)safety, and (e)durability. (2C)The term implied by subsection (2) above does not extend to any matter making the quality of goods unsatisfactory— (a)which is specifically drawn to the buyer’s attention before the contract is made, (b)where the buyer examines the goods before the contract is made, which that examination ought to reveal, or (c)in the case of a contract for sale by sample, which would have been apparent on a reasonable examination of the sample.] upwherewebelong
  • Score: -2

3:25pm Sun 29 Jun 14

BarnetSaint says...

Message to Reed, Kruger and liebher
Please grow some balls and learn to say NO.
In your naievity you probably thought we'd get a hefty wedge for 3 of our excellent team from last season.
But you're allowing the heart and soul to be ripped out of our squad as others are heading for the exit door and you seem either powerless or unwilling to do anything about it.
Last point, reed said no one would be sold without his say so and knowledge yet he's not even in place and the horse has bolted out the door.
FFS sort it out people.
Message to Reed, Kruger and liebher Please grow some balls and learn to say NO. In your naievity you probably thought we'd get a hefty wedge for 3 of our excellent team from last season. But you're allowing the heart and soul to be ripped out of our squad as others are heading for the exit door and you seem either powerless or unwilling to do anything about it. Last point, reed said no one would be sold without his say so and knowledge yet he's not even in place and the horse has bolted out the door. FFS sort it out people. BarnetSaint
  • Score: -2

3:32pm Sun 29 Jun 14

apm1954 says...

Where do you get these reports from at 12-31 pm saints and arsenal are not in there offices I suggest you are in a pub .
Where do you get these reports from at 12-31 pm saints and arsenal are not in there offices I suggest you are in a pub . apm1954
  • Score: 0

3:33pm Sun 29 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

Rocket 1 wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people
Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks
The problem is even if the club was sold it would not stop players who are determined to leave from leaving, they usually end up getting their own way by putting in a transfer request.
they dont seem to get it at Leicester, spurs, WBA, everton ,stoke , hull shall i go on ?
we either stick our heads in the sand or stand up for the club against these boardroom clowns. its like the dark lord days all over again.
ohh, and to the other comments tell me how a bag of cash challenges for Europe ??
i like some others watched the reserve team last season , and apart from reed no-one else really stood out against bristol rovers (think about it ) ?
COYR
I expect Spurs and Everton have to pay big wages to keep their players sweet, as for Leicester, Hull, Stoke and West Brom they probably haven't got the calibre of player that the top clubs are looking for.
They are only "so" called big clubs because they steal our FU&KIN PLAYERS, Saints could be a Big Club if we kept our Players.............

..............
You are right we could be a big club but first we need to sell out all our home games, which we do not, then expand the seating capacity to enable us to pay better wages to the players then we will have a chance of keeping the best players and becoming a big club.
[quote][p][bold]Rocket 1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks[/p][/quote]The problem is even if the club was sold it would not stop players who are determined to leave from leaving, they usually end up getting their own way by putting in a transfer request.[/p][/quote]they dont seem to get it at Leicester, spurs, WBA, everton ,stoke , hull shall i go on ? we either stick our heads in the sand or stand up for the club against these boardroom clowns. its like the dark lord days all over again. ohh, and to the other comments tell me how a bag of cash challenges for Europe ?? i like some others watched the reserve team last season , and apart from reed no-one else really stood out against bristol rovers (think about it ) ? COYR[/p][/quote]I expect Spurs and Everton have to pay big wages to keep their players sweet, as for Leicester, Hull, Stoke and West Brom they probably haven't got the calibre of player that the top clubs are looking for.[/p][/quote]They are only "so" called big clubs because they steal our FU&KIN PLAYERS, Saints could be a Big Club if we kept our Players............. ..............[/p][/quote]You are right we could be a big club but first we need to sell out all our home games, which we do not, then expand the seating capacity to enable us to pay better wages to the players then we will have a chance of keeping the best players and becoming a big club. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 13

3:35pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Dorssaints says...

Smuggins2 wrote:
Koeman has obviously approved all this. The Club has a plan so why not wait and see what happens before spitting your dummy out. Scheiderln's value has increased since the WC and must be at least equal to Lallana.
I would not be surprised if he is offered the captaincy and a pay rise to get him to stay.
Couldn't agree more , why blame the board when it is the players that want to go! We will come back bigger and better I am really excited about the potential players coming in they will be young and hungry! I agree that Morgan should b our next captain.
[quote][p][bold]Smuggins2[/bold] wrote: Koeman has obviously approved all this. The Club has a plan so why not wait and see what happens before spitting your dummy out. Scheiderln's value has increased since the WC and must be at least equal to Lallana. I would not be surprised if he is offered the captaincy and a pay rise to get him to stay.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more , why blame the board when it is the players that want to go! We will come back bigger and better I am really excited about the potential players coming in they will be young and hungry! I agree that Morgan should b our next captain. Dorssaints
  • Score: 6

3:36pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

This is the rumour mill thread, so this should be reported. Trouble is, DE, there's also a rumour (and it's nothing more than that until it's on the official site) that we will be signing Pelle tomorrow ahead of a further possible 7 more signings soon (Mail/Sun), but you haven't yet added that rumour. THAT'S why people criticise you.

As for Morgan, regardless of anything else that is going on, it wouldn't surprise me if he did leave (I feared it this time last year to be honest), and if he does, he should definitely go with our appreciation and thanks.

My guess (nothing more) is that his start against Ecuador was Dechamps' way of saying to Morgan 'this is what it's like BUT, if you want more of the same, you'll have to get yourself into a team I've heard of and who I think can get into Europe regularly. Otherwise, thanks for showing how good you are but don't expect another call up'.

It stinks, but Dechamps' bosses at the French FA seem no different to the historic English ones (Dyke may be different) in that they pander to the big boys.
This is the rumour mill thread, so this should be reported. Trouble is, DE, there's also a rumour (and it's nothing more than that until it's on the official site) that we will be signing Pelle tomorrow ahead of a further possible 7 more signings soon (Mail/Sun), but you haven't yet added that rumour. THAT'S why people criticise you. As for Morgan, regardless of anything else that is going on, it wouldn't surprise me if he did leave (I feared it this time last year to be honest), and if he does, he should definitely go with our appreciation and thanks. My guess (nothing more) is that his start against Ecuador was Dechamps' way of saying to Morgan 'this is what it's like BUT, if you want more of the same, you'll have to get yourself into a team I've heard of and who I think can get into Europe regularly. Otherwise, thanks for showing how good you are but don't expect another call up'. It stinks, but Dechamps' bosses at the French FA seem no different to the historic English ones (Dyke may be different) in that they pander to the big boys. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 7

3:39pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Rank Xerox says...

Such a shame we let Gully go. Just think we could be selling him now for 10mill
Such a shame we let Gully go. Just think we could be selling him now for 10mill Rank Xerox
  • Score: 3

4:06pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

bullsbags wrote:
richard903 wrote:
When we bought Morgan, the press said Arssnil wanted him and have repeated this every summer , if so why did they wait until now? He is now an international and worth mega bucks. I think he would go there but do they need him, He did say that he wanted to play for a big club one day so spuds is out, I really hope he stays I think he is our best player
He is now!
He has been for the past five years.
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richard903[/bold] wrote: When we bought Morgan, the press said Arssnil wanted him and have repeated this every summer , if so why did they wait until now? He is now an international and worth mega bucks. I think he would go there but do they need him, He did say that he wanted to play for a big club one day so spuds is out, I really hope he stays I think he is our best player[/p][/quote]He is now![/p][/quote]He has been for the past five years. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

4:06pm Sun 29 Jun 14

richard903 says...

bullsbags wrote:
richard903 wrote: When we bought Morgan, the press said Arssnil wanted him and have repeated this every summer , if so why did they wait until now? He is now an international and worth mega bucks. I think he would go there but do they need him, He did say that he wanted to play for a big club one day so spuds is out, I really hope he stays I think he is our best player
He is now!
he is now??? sorry he is now what??? Are you trying to say (bless) that he is now a saints player? I am of course aware of this fact and have writen "I hope he stays"
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richard903[/bold] wrote: When we bought Morgan, the press said Arssnil wanted him and have repeated this every summer , if so why did they wait until now? He is now an international and worth mega bucks. I think he would go there but do they need him, He did say that he wanted to play for a big club one day so spuds is out, I really hope he stays I think he is our best player[/p][/quote]He is now![/p][/quote]he is now??? sorry he is now what??? Are you trying to say (bless) that he is now a saints player? I am of course aware of this fact and have writen "I hope he stays" richard903
  • Score: -3

4:11pm Sun 29 Jun 14

john lad says...

The "running a business" side of things is uppermost in the minds of the current regime. The academy production line and the 'buy young' policy is all about churning out a profitable product, feeding suitable players into the first team, being sold when the price is right. The public relations, or fan appeasement', side of things involves keeping the fans happy or at least content enough, buying season tickets and supporting the team (and we do have an incredibly loyal, if long suffering fan base). RK has been given the task of developing the "marketing" aspect of the club, selling the club at home and abroad (...fans tend to lap this up on the basis of a belief that we our extending our outreach and developing the club as a 'brand'). Now that NC has left the club, aspirations about Champions League football have been dropped and "more realistic" goals substituted. The new goal is to continue to raise our profile and keep us in the top half of the premiership. In the mean time, lets brace ourselves for the next couple of transfers out, followed by a three or four incoming transfers intended to bolster our currently flagging spirits.
The "running a business" side of things is uppermost in the minds of the current regime. The academy production line and the 'buy young' policy is all about churning out a profitable product, feeding suitable players into the first team, being sold when the price is right. The public relations, or fan appeasement', side of things involves keeping the fans happy or at least content enough, buying season tickets and supporting the team (and we do have an incredibly loyal, if long suffering fan base). RK has been given the task of developing the "marketing" aspect of the club, selling the club at home and abroad (...fans tend to lap this up on the basis of a belief that we our extending our outreach and developing the club as a 'brand'). Now that NC has left the club, aspirations about Champions League football have been dropped and "more realistic" goals substituted. The new goal is to continue to raise our profile and keep us in the top half of the premiership. In the mean time, lets brace ourselves for the next couple of transfers out, followed by a three or four incoming transfers intended to bolster our currently flagging spirits. john lad
  • Score: 1

4:13pm Sun 29 Jun 14

bbb001 says...

Big Mac wrote:
According to the french press, it's OK for women to have hairy armpits, can you believe what they come up with!
Why all the panic, lets wait and see what happens over the next few weeks. Everyone is assuming that the players leaving are better than they really are, if they were as good as everybody believes, then why did saints only finish 8th. As for Pochetino, was he really that good? Look at the facts, not once did he win a game when the team conceded the first goal. His ability to affect the game with substitutions was to say the least, suspect. Add to this the arrogance of the man who refused to speak english to the press. The players that have left might just find the grass is not greener on the other side. So please lets give the board and the manager the time they need to reshape the team and bring european football to St Marys.
[quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: According to the french press, it's OK for women to have hairy armpits, can you believe what they come up with![/p][/quote]Why all the panic, lets wait and see what happens over the next few weeks. Everyone is assuming that the players leaving are better than they really are, if they were as good as everybody believes, then why did saints only finish 8th. As for Pochetino, was he really that good? Look at the facts, not once did he win a game when the team conceded the first goal. His ability to affect the game with substitutions was to say the least, suspect. Add to this the arrogance of the man who refused to speak english to the press. The players that have left might just find the grass is not greener on the other side. So please lets give the board and the manager the time they need to reshape the team and bring european football to St Marys. bbb001
  • Score: 17

4:20pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

upwherewebelong wrote:
Wonder if this board are aware of this clause in the Sale of Goods Act 1979

14 Implied terms about quality or fitness.

(1)Except as provided by this section and section 15 below and subject to any other enactment, there is no implied about the quality or fitness for any particular purpose of goods supplied under a contract of sale.

If you believe that you have a legal case against the club, then why not ask for your money back, and sue if you don't get it?
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: Wonder if this board are aware of this clause in the Sale of Goods Act 1979 14 Implied terms about quality or fitness. (1)Except as provided by this section and section 15 below and subject to any other enactment, there is no implied [F11term] about the quality or fitness for any particular purpose of goods supplied under a contract of sale. [F12(2)Where the seller sells goods in the course of a business, there is an implied term that the goods supplied under the contract are of satisfactory quality. (2A)For the purposes of this Act, goods are of satisfactory quality if they meet the standard that a reasonable person would regard as satisfactory, taking account of any description of the goods, the price (if relevant) and all the other relevant circumstances. (2B)For the purposes of this Act, the quality of goods includes their state and condition and the following (among others) are in appropriate cases aspects of the quality of goods— (a)fitness for all the purposes for which goods of the kind in question are commonly supplied, (b)appearance and finish, (c)freedom from minor defects, (d)safety, and (e)durability. (2C)The term implied by subsection (2) above does not extend to any matter making the quality of goods unsatisfactory— (a)which is specifically drawn to the buyer’s attention before the contract is made, (b)where the buyer examines the goods before the contract is made, which that examination ought to reveal, or (c)in the case of a contract for sale by sample, which would have been apparent on a reasonable examination of the sample.][/p][/quote]If you believe that you have a legal case against the club, then why not ask for your money back, and sue if you don't get it? Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

4:48pm Sun 29 Jun 14

WTFisgoingon says...

upwherewebelong wrote:
Wonder if this board are aware of this clause in the Sale of Goods Act 1979

14 Implied terms about quality or fitness.

(1)Except as provided by this section and section 15 below and subject to any other enactment, there is no implied about the quality or fitness for any particular purpose of goods supplied under a contract of sale.

You can get a refund on almost everything purchased over the phone or online by rejecting it under the distance selling regulations. You can reject without reason (though we have plenty) any time up to seven days after delivery. Give the ticket office a call on 0845 688 9288 and tell them you are rejecting the season ticket.

I'm stuffed if they are having my money this season. I'll go to some games but the board needs the financial shock of loads of people doing this to make them understand that our views are worth considering.
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: Wonder if this board are aware of this clause in the Sale of Goods Act 1979 14 Implied terms about quality or fitness. (1)Except as provided by this section and section 15 below and subject to any other enactment, there is no implied [F11term] about the quality or fitness for any particular purpose of goods supplied under a contract of sale. [F12(2)Where the seller sells goods in the course of a business, there is an implied term that the goods supplied under the contract are of satisfactory quality. (2A)For the purposes of this Act, goods are of satisfactory quality if they meet the standard that a reasonable person would regard as satisfactory, taking account of any description of the goods, the price (if relevant) and all the other relevant circumstances. (2B)For the purposes of this Act, the quality of goods includes their state and condition and the following (among others) are in appropriate cases aspects of the quality of goods— (a)fitness for all the purposes for which goods of the kind in question are commonly supplied, (b)appearance and finish, (c)freedom from minor defects, (d)safety, and (e)durability. (2C)The term implied by subsection (2) above does not extend to any matter making the quality of goods unsatisfactory— (a)which is specifically drawn to the buyer’s attention before the contract is made, (b)where the buyer examines the goods before the contract is made, which that examination ought to reveal, or (c)in the case of a contract for sale by sample, which would have been apparent on a reasonable examination of the sample.][/p][/quote]You can get a refund on almost everything purchased over the phone or online by rejecting it under the distance selling regulations. You can reject without reason (though we have plenty) any time up to seven days after delivery. Give the ticket office a call on 0845 688 9288 and tell them you are rejecting the season ticket. I'm stuffed if they are having my money this season. I'll go to some games but the board needs the financial shock of loads of people doing this to make them understand that our views are worth considering. WTFisgoingon
  • Score: -3

4:55pm Sun 29 Jun 14

bullsbags says...

richard903 wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
richard903 wrote: When we bought Morgan, the press said Arssnil wanted him and have repeated this every summer , if so why did they wait until now? He is now an international and worth mega bucks. I think he would go there but do they need him, He did say that he wanted to play for a big club one day so spuds is out, I really hope he stays I think he is our best player
He is now!
he is now??? sorry he is now what??? Are you trying to say (bless) that he is now a saints player? I am of course aware of this fact and have writen "I hope he stays"
He is now. Our best player as anyone considered better has p!ssed off
[quote][p][bold]richard903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richard903[/bold] wrote: When we bought Morgan, the press said Arssnil wanted him and have repeated this every summer , if so why did they wait until now? He is now an international and worth mega bucks. I think he would go there but do they need him, He did say that he wanted to play for a big club one day so spuds is out, I really hope he stays I think he is our best player[/p][/quote]He is now![/p][/quote]he is now??? sorry he is now what??? Are you trying to say (bless) that he is now a saints player? I am of course aware of this fact and have writen "I hope he stays"[/p][/quote]He is now. Our best player as anyone considered better has p!ssed off bullsbags
  • Score: 0

4:57pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Public Health wrote:
buckie wrote:
if as expected Spider lalla Lovern wanyama (he can go anyway) and other players leave that we have not heard off yet can we get a refund on our season ticket money? i save for 6 months off the year to be able to purchase my ticket what has really riled me is for the first time in i would say over 20 years they bring the early re-newel date forward by a month then sell all our players before the end of June saints have to me mis sold my season ticket if i cant get a refund i will go but next season will be a different matter as seems plausible we have to rebulid our team is all we are going to get is cheap foreign imports and certainly not 3 current England internationals as we did have
feels a bit like buying tickets to see Darcy Bussell at Covent Garden and getting to see the understudy
I wouldn't mind seeing Darcy Bussell's understudy.
[quote][p][bold]Public Health[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckie[/bold] wrote: if as expected Spider lalla Lovern wanyama (he can go anyway) and other players leave that we have not heard off yet can we get a refund on our season ticket money? i save for 6 months off the year to be able to purchase my ticket what has really riled me is for the first time in i would say over 20 years they bring the early re-newel date forward by a month then sell all our players before the end of June saints have to me mis sold my season ticket if i cant get a refund i will go but next season will be a different matter as seems plausible we have to rebulid our team is all we are going to get is cheap foreign imports and certainly not 3 current England internationals as we did have[/p][/quote]feels a bit like buying tickets to see Darcy Bussell at Covent Garden and getting to see the understudy[/p][/quote]I wouldn't mind seeing Darcy Bussell's understudy. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

5:00pm Sun 29 Jun 14

richard903 says...

bullsbags wrote:
richard903 wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
richard903 wrote: When we bought Morgan, the press said Arssnil wanted him and have repeated this every summer , if so why did they wait until now? He is now an international and worth mega bucks. I think he would go there but do they need him, He did say that he wanted to play for a big club one day so spuds is out, I really hope he stays I think he is our best player
He is now!
he is now??? sorry he is now what??? Are you trying to say (bless) that he is now a saints player? I am of course aware of this fact and have writen "I hope he stays"
He is now. Our best player as anyone considered better has p!ssed off
ok but I wrote "I think he is our best player" just giving my opinion. Sorry if I miss understood your comment , its all rather distressing is it not? the last time I was this stressed was when we went bust
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richard903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richard903[/bold] wrote: When we bought Morgan, the press said Arssnil wanted him and have repeated this every summer , if so why did they wait until now? He is now an international and worth mega bucks. I think he would go there but do they need him, He did say that he wanted to play for a big club one day so spuds is out, I really hope he stays I think he is our best player[/p][/quote]He is now![/p][/quote]he is now??? sorry he is now what??? Are you trying to say (bless) that he is now a saints player? I am of course aware of this fact and have writen "I hope he stays"[/p][/quote]He is now. Our best player as anyone considered better has p!ssed off[/p][/quote]ok but I wrote "I think he is our best player" just giving my opinion. Sorry if I miss understood your comment , its all rather distressing is it not? the last time I was this stressed was when we went bust richard903
  • Score: 0

5:19pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

richard903 wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
richard903 wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
richard903 wrote: When we bought Morgan, the press said Arssnil wanted him and have repeated this every summer , if so why did they wait until now? He is now an international and worth mega bucks. I think he would go there but do they need him, He did say that he wanted to play for a big club one day so spuds is out, I really hope he stays I think he is our best player
He is now!
he is now??? sorry he is now what??? Are you trying to say (bless) that he is now a saints player? I am of course aware of this fact and have writen "I hope he stays"
He is now. Our best player as anyone considered better has p!ssed off
ok but I wrote "I think he is our best player" just giving my opinion. Sorry if I miss understood your comment , its all rather distressing is it not? the last time I was this stressed was when we went bust
I was a little bit stressed and lacked confidence in the competency of the current board,but now that the panic attacks are under control,I am only worried and anxious.
[quote][p][bold]richard903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richard903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richard903[/bold] wrote: When we bought Morgan, the press said Arssnil wanted him and have repeated this every summer , if so why did they wait until now? He is now an international and worth mega bucks. I think he would go there but do they need him, He did say that he wanted to play for a big club one day so spuds is out, I really hope he stays I think he is our best player[/p][/quote]He is now![/p][/quote]he is now??? sorry he is now what??? Are you trying to say (bless) that he is now a saints player? I am of course aware of this fact and have writen "I hope he stays"[/p][/quote]He is now. Our best player as anyone considered better has p!ssed off[/p][/quote]ok but I wrote "I think he is our best player" just giving my opinion. Sorry if I miss understood your comment , its all rather distressing is it not? the last time I was this stressed was when we went bust[/p][/quote]I was a little bit stressed and lacked confidence in the competency of the current board,but now that the panic attacks are under control,I am only worried and anxious. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

5:28pm Sun 29 Jun 14

SwissToni says...

If someone offers you 2 or 3 times your salary, the chance to go and perform on a bigger stage than you do already, would you say no? I wouldn't if I were in these player's positions. It is not the board's fault that this is happening, it is unfortunately the way of the world.

The board have done the best in the situation, they've extracted good money for players who were championship and league one players not too long ago. If other players want to go, then likewise they will have to go, but on our terms. I take some pride in the fact that Scholes and others are complaining about the cost of our players. Yes, they are outrageous prices, but if you want them that badly, pay...

I agree wholeheartedly with an earlier post on this board, we can only judge the board on whom they recruit and the levels of funding they are willing to invest to do this. So far recruiting Koeman is a huge statement in this direction.

In my opinion, we are a long long way away from the inboard fighting and lack of ambition shown in the dark Lowe days. My suggestion, hold tight it will continue to be bumpy for a few weeks, but then hopefully we'll see some light at the end of the tunnel.
If someone offers you 2 or 3 times your salary, the chance to go and perform on a bigger stage than you do already, would you say no? I wouldn't if I were in these player's positions. It is not the board's fault that this is happening, it is unfortunately the way of the world. The board have done the best in the situation, they've extracted good money for players who were championship and league one players not too long ago. If other players want to go, then likewise they will have to go, but on our terms. I take some pride in the fact that Scholes and others are complaining about the cost of our players. Yes, they are outrageous prices, but if you want them that badly, pay... I agree wholeheartedly with an earlier post on this board, we can only judge the board on whom they recruit and the levels of funding they are willing to invest to do this. So far recruiting Koeman is a huge statement in this direction. In my opinion, we are a long long way away from the inboard fighting and lack of ambition shown in the dark Lowe days. My suggestion, hold tight it will continue to be bumpy for a few weeks, but then hopefully we'll see some light at the end of the tunnel. SwissToni
  • Score: 13

5:30pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Saint_rob says...

Christ there is some doom and gloom in here!

The team finished 8th and the team even said they finished top of their
Mini league if you know what I mean.

To get any better the team needs to change.
Look at Man City they had very good players in Bellamy and Ireland they
We're unplayable at times but both had to go to get to the next level.
It's not going to be with English players! Lallana is a good player but
Do you think he can get any better? IMO I think he has peaked.
We have just got a cracking manager the best in my life time, so let's get behind the Team and see how we go.
If players don't want to be here, then get rid.
Christ there is some doom and gloom in here! The team finished 8th and the team even said they finished top of their Mini league if you know what I mean. To get any better the team needs to change. Look at Man City they had very good players in Bellamy and Ireland they We're unplayable at times but both had to go to get to the next level. It's not going to be with English players! Lallana is a good player but Do you think he can get any better? IMO I think he has peaked. We have just got a cracking manager the best in my life time, so let's get behind the Team and see how we go. If players don't want to be here, then get rid. Saint_rob
  • Score: 16

5:35pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Freddie Flowerpot says...

How do you know he's the best manager in your lifetime, he hasn't been in charge for one game yet!
How do you know he's the best manager in your lifetime, he hasn't been in charge for one game yet! Freddie Flowerpot
  • Score: -3

5:43pm Sun 29 Jun 14

upwherewebelong says...

Rising_Son wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
Wonder if this board are aware of this clause in the Sale of Goods Act 1979

14 Implied terms about quality or fitness.

(1)Except as provided by this section and section 15 below and subject to any other enactment, there is no implied about the quality or fitness for any particular purpose of goods supplied under a contract of sale.

If you believe that you have a legal case against the club, then why not ask for your money back, and sue if you don't get it?
The point I was trying to make although I did it very badly, was that the club misled us all when bringing forward the renewal date by a month then embarked on what is in my opinion a mistaken strategy to sell all our best players.

I know players hold more power than they should but surely the club should simply take the same stance that Liverpool did with Suarez which was to tell him he was going nowhere. Certainly didn't suffer too much last year did they ?
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: Wonder if this board are aware of this clause in the Sale of Goods Act 1979 14 Implied terms about quality or fitness. (1)Except as provided by this section and section 15 below and subject to any other enactment, there is no implied [F11term] about the quality or fitness for any particular purpose of goods supplied under a contract of sale. [F12(2)Where the seller sells goods in the course of a business, there is an implied term that the goods supplied under the contract are of satisfactory quality. (2A)For the purposes of this Act, goods are of satisfactory quality if they meet the standard that a reasonable person would regard as satisfactory, taking account of any description of the goods, the price (if relevant) and all the other relevant circumstances. (2B)For the purposes of this Act, the quality of goods includes their state and condition and the following (among others) are in appropriate cases aspects of the quality of goods— (a)fitness for all the purposes for which goods of the kind in question are commonly supplied, (b)appearance and finish, (c)freedom from minor defects, (d)safety, and (e)durability. (2C)The term implied by subsection (2) above does not extend to any matter making the quality of goods unsatisfactory— (a)which is specifically drawn to the buyer’s attention before the contract is made, (b)where the buyer examines the goods before the contract is made, which that examination ought to reveal, or (c)in the case of a contract for sale by sample, which would have been apparent on a reasonable examination of the sample.][/p][/quote]If you believe that you have a legal case against the club, then why not ask for your money back, and sue if you don't get it?[/p][/quote]The point I was trying to make although I did it very badly, was that the club misled us all when bringing forward the renewal date by a month then embarked on what is in my opinion a mistaken strategy to sell all our best players. I know players hold more power than they should but surely the club should simply take the same stance that Liverpool did with Suarez which was to tell him he was going nowhere. Certainly didn't suffer too much last year did they ? upwherewebelong
  • Score: 2

5:44pm Sun 29 Jun 14

InsideOutCat says...

The Arse are the only side that finished above us who could afford to look at Morgan ( excluding the vile and loathsome Arab's plaything that is Citeh obviously). But surely Arsène will have twigged by now that ex Saints don''t adapt well to his poncey "walk it into the net" style?
The Arse are the only side that finished above us who could afford to look at Morgan ( excluding the vile and loathsome Arab's plaything that is Citeh obviously). But surely Arsène will have twigged by now that ex Saints don''t adapt well to his poncey "walk it into the net" style? InsideOutCat
  • Score: 0

5:47pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Clever Dick says...

bullsbags wrote:
richard903 wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
richard903 wrote: When we bought Morgan, the press said Arssnil wanted him and have repeated this every summer , if so why did they wait until now? He is now an international and worth mega bucks. I think he would go there but do they need him, He did say that he wanted to play for a big club one day so spuds is out, I really hope he stays I think he is our best player
He is now!
he is now??? sorry he is now what??? Are you trying to say (bless) that he is now a saints player? I am of course aware of this fact and have writen "I hope he stays"
He is now. Our best player as anyone considered better has p!ssed off
AL and LS are not in the same league as spider. As Les Reed has said anybody who wants any of our players should be prepared to pay. With both the recent departures we have got much more than they are worth (IMO).. Current sell prices for both Spider and Lovren are being quoted at around £15mil. Neither should be allowed to leave for less than £25mil. They are both more important to the side than the players we have sold.. LS is a very easy replacement at LB for less than £10mil. We should expect to pay a bit more to replace AL as playmakers come a bit dearer. Unlike all the doom mongers I,mlooking forward to seeing some very good replacements come in to improve the side and continue the progress. Will also be keeping my season ticket and looking forward to turning over some of the "supposed " big teams.
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richard903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richard903[/bold] wrote: When we bought Morgan, the press said Arssnil wanted him and have repeated this every summer , if so why did they wait until now? He is now an international and worth mega bucks. I think he would go there but do they need him, He did say that he wanted to play for a big club one day so spuds is out, I really hope he stays I think he is our best player[/p][/quote]He is now![/p][/quote]he is now??? sorry he is now what??? Are you trying to say (bless) that he is now a saints player? I am of course aware of this fact and have writen "I hope he stays"[/p][/quote]He is now. Our best player as anyone considered better has p!ssed off[/p][/quote]AL and LS are not in the same league as spider. As Les Reed has said anybody who wants any of our players should be prepared to pay. With both the recent departures we have got much more than they are worth (IMO).. Current sell prices for both Spider and Lovren are being quoted at around £15mil. Neither should be allowed to leave for less than £25mil. They are both more important to the side than the players we have sold.. LS is a very easy replacement at LB for less than £10mil. We should expect to pay a bit more to replace AL as playmakers come a bit dearer. Unlike all the doom mongers I,mlooking forward to seeing some very good replacements come in to improve the side and continue the progress. Will also be keeping my season ticket and looking forward to turning over some of the "supposed " big teams. Clever Dick
  • Score: 7

5:52pm Sun 29 Jun 14

tennisaint says...

It's a fact we will always be a selling club as long as we produce the quality youngsters at the club. The big clubs will come in and strip us every time I am sorry to say except it and enjoy what we have produced for these players will go on to be world class and we can say we have one of the best Academy in the world.
It's a fact we will always be a selling club as long as we produce the quality youngsters at the club. The big clubs will come in and strip us every time I am sorry to say except it and enjoy what we have produced for these players will go on to be world class and we can say we have one of the best Academy in the world. tennisaint
  • Score: 3

5:52pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Dave Brown says...

Rising_Son wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
Wonder if this board are aware of this clause in the Sale of Goods Act 1979

14 Implied terms about quality or fitness.

(1)Except as provided by this section and section 15 below and subject to any other enactment, there is no implied about the quality or fitness for any particular purpose of goods supplied under a contract of sale.

If you believe that you have a legal case against the club, then why not ask for your money back, and sue if you don't get it?
I wonder if the new shirt sponsors(who are they)were informed that half the team including the three English internationals would be leaving before the season kicks off.
I bet The Saints will not receive the coverage they enjoyed last year on Sky.
Wonder if they have a case for reducing the sponsorship money .
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: Wonder if this board are aware of this clause in the Sale of Goods Act 1979 14 Implied terms about quality or fitness. (1)Except as provided by this section and section 15 below and subject to any other enactment, there is no implied [F11term] about the quality or fitness for any particular purpose of goods supplied under a contract of sale. [F12(2)Where the seller sells goods in the course of a business, there is an implied term that the goods supplied under the contract are of satisfactory quality. (2A)For the purposes of this Act, goods are of satisfactory quality if they meet the standard that a reasonable person would regard as satisfactory, taking account of any description of the goods, the price (if relevant) and all the other relevant circumstances. (2B)For the purposes of this Act, the quality of goods includes their state and condition and the following (among others) are in appropriate cases aspects of the quality of goods— (a)fitness for all the purposes for which goods of the kind in question are commonly supplied, (b)appearance and finish, (c)freedom from minor defects, (d)safety, and (e)durability. (2C)The term implied by subsection (2) above does not extend to any matter making the quality of goods unsatisfactory— (a)which is specifically drawn to the buyer’s attention before the contract is made, (b)where the buyer examines the goods before the contract is made, which that examination ought to reveal, or (c)in the case of a contract for sale by sample, which would have been apparent on a reasonable examination of the sample.][/p][/quote]If you believe that you have a legal case against the club, then why not ask for your money back, and sue if you don't get it?[/p][/quote]I wonder if the new shirt sponsors(who are they)were informed that half the team including the three English internationals would be leaving before the season kicks off. I bet The Saints will not receive the coverage they enjoyed last year on Sky. Wonder if they have a case for reducing the sponsorship money . Dave Brown
  • Score: 2

5:55pm Sun 29 Jun 14

richard903 says...

Trying to convince myself about the be possitive comments! I suppose if I think of it along the lines of George Burleys grand sale? The first game I went to I can remeber everyone around me looking at their programme to identify who was who, and that team did alot better than before the big names were cleared out?
Please tell me I am right?
Trying to convince myself about the be possitive comments! I suppose if I think of it along the lines of George Burleys grand sale? The first game I went to I can remeber everyone around me looking at their programme to identify who was who, and that team did alot better than before the big names were cleared out? Please tell me I am right? richard903
  • Score: 1

6:01pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Dave Brown wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
Wonder if this board are aware of this clause in the Sale of Goods Act 1979

14 Implied terms about quality or fitness.

(1)Except as provided by this section and section 15 below and subject to any other enactment, there is no implied about the quality or fitness for any particular purpose of goods supplied under a contract of sale.

If you believe that you have a legal case against the club, then why not ask for your money back, and sue if you don't get it?
I wonder if the new shirt sponsors(who are they)were informed that half the team including the three English internationals would be leaving before the season kicks off.
I bet The Saints will not receive the coverage they enjoyed last year on Sky.
Wonder if they have a case for reducing the sponsorship money .
Reduce it?!? Their bloody turnover is less than several Prem sides get for shirt sponsorship! Ralph's been mugged over. Again.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: Wonder if this board are aware of this clause in the Sale of Goods Act 1979 14 Implied terms about quality or fitness. (1)Except as provided by this section and section 15 below and subject to any other enactment, there is no implied [F11term] about the quality or fitness for any particular purpose of goods supplied under a contract of sale. [F12(2)Where the seller sells goods in the course of a business, there is an implied term that the goods supplied under the contract are of satisfactory quality. (2A)For the purposes of this Act, goods are of satisfactory quality if they meet the standard that a reasonable person would regard as satisfactory, taking account of any description of the goods, the price (if relevant) and all the other relevant circumstances. (2B)For the purposes of this Act, the quality of goods includes their state and condition and the following (among others) are in appropriate cases aspects of the quality of goods— (a)fitness for all the purposes for which goods of the kind in question are commonly supplied, (b)appearance and finish, (c)freedom from minor defects, (d)safety, and (e)durability. (2C)The term implied by subsection (2) above does not extend to any matter making the quality of goods unsatisfactory— (a)which is specifically drawn to the buyer’s attention before the contract is made, (b)where the buyer examines the goods before the contract is made, which that examination ought to reveal, or (c)in the case of a contract for sale by sample, which would have been apparent on a reasonable examination of the sample.][/p][/quote]If you believe that you have a legal case against the club, then why not ask for your money back, and sue if you don't get it?[/p][/quote]I wonder if the new shirt sponsors(who are they)were informed that half the team including the three English internationals would be leaving before the season kicks off. I bet The Saints will not receive the coverage they enjoyed last year on Sky. Wonder if they have a case for reducing the sponsorship money .[/p][/quote]Reduce it?!? Their bloody turnover is less than several Prem sides get for shirt sponsorship! Ralph's been mugged over. Again. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

6:03pm Sun 29 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

bbb001 wrote:
Big Mac wrote:
According to the french press, it's OK for women to have hairy armpits, can you believe what they come up with!
Why all the panic, lets wait and see what happens over the next few weeks. Everyone is assuming that the players leaving are better than they really are, if they were as good as everybody believes, then why did saints only finish 8th. As for Pochetino, was he really that good? Look at the facts, not once did he win a game when the team conceded the first goal. His ability to affect the game with substitutions was to say the least, suspect. Add to this the arrogance of the man who refused to speak english to the press. The players that have left might just find the grass is not greener on the other side. So please lets give the board and the manager the time they need to reshape the team and bring european football to St Marys.
I'm all for optimism and will be excited when the new players come in, but trying to make ourselves feel better by saying Poch wasn't great is simply not true. Not only did we achieve our best league position in the PL era, but we did it with the best football we've played for 25 years.

It's like Spurs fans saying Arry wasn't good enough - now they are scrambling around trying to find someone to get them back to where they were before they sacked him.

Yes, things can improve, but if they do we'll need shed loads of luck with our managerial and player appointments.

Replacing five or six of our first team squad with reliable equally good alternatives is going to be extremely hard.

Rickie Lambert is not easy to replace - teams spend year's finding strikers who will reliably get you 10-15 Premier League goals.

Lallana is very hard to replace too - goal scoring, chance creating creative midfielder who tackles and runs back - priceless.

Shaw, more replaceable, but still, hard to put a value on a player who stands out like a sore thumb as class.

Then add the fact that, prior to the end of the season, it was none of these positions that we actually desperately needed to strengthen and things look tough.

We needed to bed in new centre backs, a keeper and have a quality reserve at left back, now we also need a proven goal scorer, a creative midfielder and a first choice left back. Lovren will likely also leave due to the board's weak stance, so that's the entire spine removed.

History shows it is hard to blood five or six players into a first team without initial problems at the very least and a partial hit rate. It's risky.

Add to that the fact that our manager, while a good appointment, is entering new ground. If he had his team with him, fine, but as Clough showed at Leeds, if you lose your right hand man the whole thing can be very different. I think it is a serious mistake not employing a settled management team, rather than someone who is himself getting used to working with his brother and Sammy Lee. That too, is a risk.

Obviously everyone has to give the manager and squad time and I think we all will, and not just when things are going well, but nothing the board has done so far, and especially their changing stances, inspire confidence.

Let's see who we sign. I hope we show more nouse in negotiating deals for the right players than we have in letting others go. And I do think that means we now need at least a few players who have proven themselves in this league to take some of the risk out, at least in key areas.

Bony, Michu, Benteke, Lukaku, Caulker, Medel (if we lose Spider), Davies, Williams, Vlar, Vorm - not necessarily those names but players who have shown they can more than cut it at this level and in this country.
[quote][p][bold]bbb001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: According to the french press, it's OK for women to have hairy armpits, can you believe what they come up with![/p][/quote]Why all the panic, lets wait and see what happens over the next few weeks. Everyone is assuming that the players leaving are better than they really are, if they were as good as everybody believes, then why did saints only finish 8th. As for Pochetino, was he really that good? Look at the facts, not once did he win a game when the team conceded the first goal. His ability to affect the game with substitutions was to say the least, suspect. Add to this the arrogance of the man who refused to speak english to the press. The players that have left might just find the grass is not greener on the other side. So please lets give the board and the manager the time they need to reshape the team and bring european football to St Marys.[/p][/quote]I'm all for optimism and will be excited when the new players come in, but trying to make ourselves feel better by saying Poch wasn't great is simply not true. Not only did we achieve our best league position in the PL era, but we did it with the best football we've played for 25 years. It's like Spurs fans saying Arry wasn't good enough - now they are scrambling around trying to find someone to get them back to where they were before they sacked him. Yes, things can improve, but if they do we'll need shed loads of luck with our managerial and player appointments. Replacing five or six of our first team squad with reliable equally good alternatives is going to be extremely hard. Rickie Lambert is not easy to replace - teams spend year's finding strikers who will reliably get you 10-15 Premier League goals. Lallana is very hard to replace too - goal scoring, chance creating creative midfielder who tackles and runs back - priceless. Shaw, more replaceable, but still, hard to put a value on a player who stands out like a sore thumb as class. Then add the fact that, prior to the end of the season, it was none of these positions that we actually desperately needed to strengthen and things look tough. We needed to bed in new centre backs, a keeper and have a quality reserve at left back, now we also need a proven goal scorer, a creative midfielder and a first choice left back. Lovren will likely also leave due to the board's weak stance, so that's the entire spine removed. History shows it is hard to blood five or six players into a first team without initial problems at the very least and a partial hit rate. It's risky. Add to that the fact that our manager, while a good appointment, is entering new ground. If he had his team with him, fine, but as Clough showed at Leeds, if you lose your right hand man the whole thing can be very different. I think it is a serious mistake not employing a settled management team, rather than someone who is himself getting used to working with his brother and Sammy Lee. That too, is a risk. Obviously everyone has to give the manager and squad time and I think we all will, and not just when things are going well, but nothing the board has done so far, and especially their changing stances, inspire confidence. Let's see who we sign. I hope we show more nouse in negotiating deals for the right players than we have in letting others go. And I do think that means we now need at least a few players who have proven themselves in this league to take some of the risk out, at least in key areas. Bony, Michu, Benteke, Lukaku, Caulker, Medel (if we lose Spider), Davies, Williams, Vlar, Vorm - not necessarily those names but players who have shown they can more than cut it at this level and in this country. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

6:04pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

tennisaint wrote:
It's a fact we will always be a selling club as long as we produce the quality youngsters at the club. The big clubs will come in and strip us every time I am sorry to say except it and enjoy what we have produced for these players will go on to be world class and we can say we have one of the best Academy in the world.
You could argue that only Bale has turned out to be truly described as "World Class" going by England's less than World class performances of late,and the ironic thing is,he will never get to play in a World Cup.
[quote][p][bold]tennisaint[/bold] wrote: It's a fact we will always be a selling club as long as we produce the quality youngsters at the club. The big clubs will come in and strip us every time I am sorry to say except it and enjoy what we have produced for these players will go on to be world class and we can say we have one of the best Academy in the world.[/p][/quote]You could argue that only Bale has turned out to be truly described as "World Class" going by England's less than World class performances of late,and the ironic thing is,he will never get to play in a World Cup. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -2

6:39pm Sun 29 Jun 14

saintmac says...

How can Koeman have sanctioned these moves if he does not start work until tomorrow? The Board said no tranfers until RK had spoken to the players and
look what has happened.This does not add up and to me it appears that Koeman has been mislead.
How can Koeman have sanctioned these moves if he does not start work until tomorrow? The Board said no tranfers until RK had spoken to the players and look what has happened.This does not add up and to me it appears that Koeman has been mislead. saintmac
  • Score: -1

6:43pm Sun 29 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

saintmac wrote:
How can Koeman have sanctioned these moves if he does not start work until tomorrow? The Board said no tranfers until RK had spoken to the players and
look what has happened.This does not add up and to me it appears that Koeman has been mislead.
Maybe he spoke to them on the phone.
[quote][p][bold]saintmac[/bold] wrote: How can Koeman have sanctioned these moves if he does not start work until tomorrow? The Board said no tranfers until RK had spoken to the players and look what has happened.This does not add up and to me it appears that Koeman has been mislead.[/p][/quote]Maybe he spoke to them on the phone. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 5

6:47pm Sun 29 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

SwissToni wrote:
If someone offers you 2 or 3 times your salary, the chance to go and perform on a bigger stage than you do already, would you say no? I wouldn't if I were in these player's positions. It is not the board's fault that this is happening, it is unfortunately the way of the world.

The board have done the best in the situation, they've extracted good money for players who were championship and league one players not too long ago. If other players want to go, then likewise they will have to go, but on our terms. I take some pride in the fact that Scholes and others are complaining about the cost of our players. Yes, they are outrageous prices, but if you want them that badly, pay...

I agree wholeheartedly with an earlier post on this board, we can only judge the board on whom they recruit and the levels of funding they are willing to invest to do this. So far recruiting Koeman is a huge statement in this direction.

In my opinion, we are a long long way away from the inboard fighting and lack of ambition shown in the dark Lowe days. My suggestion, hold tight it will continue to be bumpy for a few weeks, but then hopefully we'll see some light at the end of the tunnel.
At last Someone who speaks some sense.
[quote][p][bold]SwissToni[/bold] wrote: If someone offers you 2 or 3 times your salary, the chance to go and perform on a bigger stage than you do already, would you say no? I wouldn't if I were in these player's positions. It is not the board's fault that this is happening, it is unfortunately the way of the world. The board have done the best in the situation, they've extracted good money for players who were championship and league one players not too long ago. If other players want to go, then likewise they will have to go, but on our terms. I take some pride in the fact that Scholes and others are complaining about the cost of our players. Yes, they are outrageous prices, but if you want them that badly, pay... I agree wholeheartedly with an earlier post on this board, we can only judge the board on whom they recruit and the levels of funding they are willing to invest to do this. So far recruiting Koeman is a huge statement in this direction. In my opinion, we are a long long way away from the inboard fighting and lack of ambition shown in the dark Lowe days. My suggestion, hold tight it will continue to be bumpy for a few weeks, but then hopefully we'll see some light at the end of the tunnel.[/p][/quote]At last Someone who speaks some sense. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 10

6:55pm Sun 29 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Public Health wrote:
buckie wrote:
if as expected Spider lalla Lovern wanyama (he can go anyway) and other players leave that we have not heard off yet can we get a refund on our season ticket money? i save for 6 months off the year to be able to purchase my ticket what has really riled me is for the first time in i would say over 20 years they bring the early re-newel date forward by a month then sell all our players before the end of June saints have to me mis sold my season ticket if i cant get a refund i will go but next season will be a different matter as seems plausible we have to rebulid our team is all we are going to get is cheap foreign imports and certainly not 3 current England internationals as we did have
feels a bit like buying tickets to see Darcy Bussell at Covent Garden and getting to see the understudy
I wouldn't mind seeing Darcy Bussell's understudy.
It's Wayne Sleep!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Public Health[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckie[/bold] wrote: if as expected Spider lalla Lovern wanyama (he can go anyway) and other players leave that we have not heard off yet can we get a refund on our season ticket money? i save for 6 months off the year to be able to purchase my ticket what has really riled me is for the first time in i would say over 20 years they bring the early re-newel date forward by a month then sell all our players before the end of June saints have to me mis sold my season ticket if i cant get a refund i will go but next season will be a different matter as seems plausible we have to rebulid our team is all we are going to get is cheap foreign imports and certainly not 3 current England internationals as we did have[/p][/quote]feels a bit like buying tickets to see Darcy Bussell at Covent Garden and getting to see the understudy[/p][/quote]I wouldn't mind seeing Darcy Bussell's understudy.[/p][/quote]It's Wayne Sleep! jls217
  • Score: 1

7:28pm Sun 29 Jun 14

thinklikealocal says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
The Arse are the only side that finished above us who could afford to look at Morgan ( excluding the vile and loathsome Arab's plaything that is Citeh obviously). But surely Arsène will have twigged by now that ex Saints don''t adapt well to his poncey "walk it into the net" style?
Last season' team might cos they spent too much time trying to 'walk it in the net' IMO....
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: The Arse are the only side that finished above us who could afford to look at Morgan ( excluding the vile and loathsome Arab's plaything that is Citeh obviously). But surely Arsène will have twigged by now that ex Saints don''t adapt well to his poncey "walk it into the net" style?[/p][/quote]Last season' team might cos they spent too much time trying to 'walk it in the net' IMO.... thinklikealocal
  • Score: 2

7:45pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Chapperall says...

This won't happen Spider is RKs type of player so can't see him agreeing this. Besides that Arsenal will want to pay peanuts for him so the best things for the board to do is to say get stuffed we are not interested in selling any more of our players. So look elsewhere or, maybe try and develop your own players!
Tired of all this now, We are near to pre season and don't currently have a first team. RK is going to have to work wonders! I do think getting Sammy Lee is is a good call as he knows the English game and is good with players.
This won't happen Spider is RKs type of player so can't see him agreeing this. Besides that Arsenal will want to pay peanuts for him so the best things for the board to do is to say get stuffed we are not interested in selling any more of our players. So look elsewhere or, maybe try and develop your own players! Tired of all this now, We are near to pre season and don't currently have a first team. RK is going to have to work wonders! I do think getting Sammy Lee is is a good call as he knows the English game and is good with players. Chapperall
  • Score: 1

7:56pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Saint Jinx says...

tennisaint wrote:
It's a fact we will always be a selling club as long as we produce the quality youngsters at the club. The big clubs will come in and strip us every time I am sorry to say except it and enjoy what we have produced for these players will go on to be world class and we can say we have one of the best Academy in the world.
Big deal. What's the point in having the best academy in the world and not winning anything.
[quote][p][bold]tennisaint[/bold] wrote: It's a fact we will always be a selling club as long as we produce the quality youngsters at the club. The big clubs will come in and strip us every time I am sorry to say except it and enjoy what we have produced for these players will go on to be world class and we can say we have one of the best Academy in the world.[/p][/quote]Big deal. What's the point in having the best academy in the world and not winning anything. Saint Jinx
  • Score: 2

8:01pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Saint Jinx says...

BarnetSaint wrote:
Message to Reed, Kruger and liebher
Please grow some balls and learn to say NO.
In your naievity you probably thought we'd get a hefty wedge for 3 of our excellent team from last season.
But you're allowing the heart and soul to be ripped out of our squad as others are heading for the exit door and you seem either powerless or unwilling to do anything about it.
Last point, reed said no one would be sold without his say so and knowledge yet he's not even in place and the horse has bolted out the door.
FFS sort it out people.
I said the board was naive many weeks ago and I got shouted down.
[quote][p][bold]BarnetSaint[/bold] wrote: Message to Reed, Kruger and liebher Please grow some balls and learn to say NO. In your naievity you probably thought we'd get a hefty wedge for 3 of our excellent team from last season. But you're allowing the heart and soul to be ripped out of our squad as others are heading for the exit door and you seem either powerless or unwilling to do anything about it. Last point, reed said no one would be sold without his say so and knowledge yet he's not even in place and the horse has bolted out the door. FFS sort it out people.[/p][/quote]I said the board was naive many weeks ago and I got shouted down. Saint Jinx
  • Score: -1

9:09pm Sun 29 Jun 14

THE12THMAN says...

search for truth wrote:
Will the last player to leave Southampton, please switch off all the lights ! ! !
What the LED lights that no other club in the country has.
[quote][p][bold]search for truth[/bold] wrote: Will the last player to leave Southampton, please switch off all the lights ! ! ![/p][/quote]What the LED lights that no other club in the country has. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 2

9:39pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Clever Dick says...

Looking forward to Case being proven wrong.
Looking forward to Case being proven wrong. Clever Dick
  • Score: 0

9:48pm Sun 29 Jun 14

search for truth says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Looking forward to Case being proven wrong.
You obviously read the whole article.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Looking forward to Case being proven wrong.[/p][/quote]You obviously read the whole article. search for truth
  • Score: 0

11:10pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

jls217 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Public Health wrote:
buckie wrote:
if as expected Spider lalla Lovern wanyama (he can go anyway) and other players leave that we have not heard off yet can we get a refund on our season ticket money? i save for 6 months off the year to be able to purchase my ticket what has really riled me is for the first time in i would say over 20 years they bring the early re-newel date forward by a month then sell all our players before the end of June saints have to me mis sold my season ticket if i cant get a refund i will go but next season will be a different matter as seems plausible we have to rebulid our team is all we are going to get is cheap foreign imports and certainly not 3 current England internationals as we did have
feels a bit like buying tickets to see Darcy Bussell at Covent Garden and getting to see the understudy
I wouldn't mind seeing Darcy Bussell's understudy.
It's Wayne Sleep!
Eeew! :0(
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Public Health[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckie[/bold] wrote: if as expected Spider lalla Lovern wanyama (he can go anyway) and other players leave that we have not heard off yet can we get a refund on our season ticket money? i save for 6 months off the year to be able to purchase my ticket what has really riled me is for the first time in i would say over 20 years they bring the early re-newel date forward by a month then sell all our players before the end of June saints have to me mis sold my season ticket if i cant get a refund i will go but next season will be a different matter as seems plausible we have to rebulid our team is all we are going to get is cheap foreign imports and certainly not 3 current England internationals as we did have[/p][/quote]feels a bit like buying tickets to see Darcy Bussell at Covent Garden and getting to see the understudy[/p][/quote]I wouldn't mind seeing Darcy Bussell's understudy.[/p][/quote]It's Wayne Sleep![/p][/quote]Eeew! :0( Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

1:24am Mon 30 Jun 14

kingkong 1 says...

May as well have players sign a contract and then hang it in the toilet on a piece of string
May as well have players sign a contract and then hang it in the toilet on a piece of string kingkong 1
  • Score: 0

2:15am Mon 30 Jun 14

PremSaint says...

tennisaint wrote:
It's a fact we will always be a selling club as long as we produce the quality youngsters at the club. The big clubs will come in and strip us every time I am sorry to say except it and enjoy what we have produced for these players will go on to be world class and we can say we have one of the best Academy in the world.
Being a selling club is not a bad thing, just good business.
http://www.saintsfc.
co.uk/news/article/2
9062014-new-scholars
-2014-1705705.aspx

These 16 year-olds aren't queuing up at Old Trafford, Anfield or The Emirates are they?

Continued investment in our Youth Program is the key to our success.
[quote][p][bold]tennisaint[/bold] wrote: It's a fact we will always be a selling club as long as we produce the quality youngsters at the club. The big clubs will come in and strip us every time I am sorry to say except it and enjoy what we have produced for these players will go on to be world class and we can say we have one of the best Academy in the world.[/p][/quote]Being a selling club is not a bad thing, just good business. http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/news/article/2 9062014-new-scholars -2014-1705705.aspx These 16 year-olds aren't queuing up at Old Trafford, Anfield or The Emirates are they? Continued investment in our Youth Program is the key to our success. PremSaint
  • Score: 2

2:16am Mon 30 Jun 14

PremSaint says...

tennisaint wrote:
It's a fact we will always be a selling club as long as we produce the quality youngsters at the club. The big clubs will come in and strip us every time I am sorry to say except it and enjoy what we have produced for these players will go on to be world class and we can say we have one of the best Academy in the world.
Being a selling club is not a bad thing, just good business.
http://www.saintsfc.
co.uk/news/article/2
9062014-new-scholars
-2014-1705705.aspx

These 16 year-olds aren't queuing up at Old Trafford, Anfield or The Emirates are they?

Continued investment in our Youth Program is the key to our success.
[quote][p][bold]tennisaint[/bold] wrote: It's a fact we will always be a selling club as long as we produce the quality youngsters at the club. The big clubs will come in and strip us every time I am sorry to say except it and enjoy what we have produced for these players will go on to be world class and we can say we have one of the best Academy in the world.[/p][/quote]Being a selling club is not a bad thing, just good business. http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/news/article/2 9062014-new-scholars -2014-1705705.aspx These 16 year-olds aren't queuing up at Old Trafford, Anfield or The Emirates are they? Continued investment in our Youth Program is the key to our success. PremSaint
  • Score: 1

6:50am Mon 30 Jun 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Time to stop the fire sale especially Morgan who should now be made captain with Adam gone. Lets get some players in and convince the rest to stay, only Osvaldo to sell or part exchange.
COYS
Time to stop the fire sale especially Morgan who should now be made captain with Adam gone. Lets get some players in and convince the rest to stay, only Osvaldo to sell or part exchange. COYS NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 1

7:17am Mon 30 Jun 14

jls217 says...

SaintsSteve wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people
Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks
totally agree with u katarina is ripping the heart out of this club i bet markus is turning in his grave time for her 2 go before she does any more damage and yes i do remember where we were 5 yrs ago with this board in charge it wont belong before were back there again if this carries on
The only ones doing the damage are the players not wanting to see out their contracts - Katarina did not participate in that decision process or any other member of the board. They obviously go along with the theory that there is no point trying to keep a player who doesn't want to play for us.

Maybe she will sell the club - don't know and neither do you. Rambo is determined to build this club to put his stamp on it - he knows more about football than the pair of you put together so just let him get on and do his job.

Two top coaches in over the weekend and already this morning paper talk about players coming in.

Noone is more disappointed than me about Spiderman going, him and Clyne were the best of that team. Lallana bloody good riddance - arrogant little barsteward. Shaw - good but 30m good - not sure yet, he may make it he may not but that was good business. Let's just wait and see what sort of team we have at the end of the season before we start this board out blx. How you going to get 'em out anyway? She owns the damned club, she can do what she wants but you can rest assured she's savvy enough not to deliberately do anything to hurt the club because it's making money. Think before you say anything gents please. That way people won't label you as ignorant, over emotional chavs and consider your views worth listening to.
[quote][p][bold]SaintsSteve[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: time to put the breaks on all this sh1t , or it going to end in tears they are tearing the heart out of our team its time to stand up and be counted people Love the SAINTS F*cking hate the board , time to sell the club me thinks[/p][/quote]totally agree with u katarina is ripping the heart out of this club i bet markus is turning in his grave time for her 2 go before she does any more damage and yes i do remember where we were 5 yrs ago with this board in charge it wont belong before were back there again if this carries on[/p][/quote]The only ones doing the damage are the players not wanting to see out their contracts - Katarina did not participate in that decision process or any other member of the board. They obviously go along with the theory that there is no point trying to keep a player who doesn't want to play for us. Maybe she will sell the club - don't know and neither do you. Rambo is determined to build this club to put his stamp on it - he knows more about football than the pair of you put together so just let him get on and do his job. Two top coaches in over the weekend and already this morning paper talk about players coming in. Noone is more disappointed than me about Spiderman going, him and Clyne were the best of that team. Lallana bloody good riddance - arrogant little barsteward. Shaw - good but 30m good - not sure yet, he may make it he may not but that was good business. Let's just wait and see what sort of team we have at the end of the season before we start this board out blx. How you going to get 'em out anyway? She owns the damned club, she can do what she wants but you can rest assured she's savvy enough not to deliberately do anything to hurt the club because it's making money. Think before you say anything gents please. That way people won't label you as ignorant, over emotional chavs and consider your views worth listening to. jls217
  • Score: 5

9:08am Mon 30 Jun 14

Saint Jinx says...

BUt anyway perhaps we will do OK and perhaps the board have it sussed. If the new manager brings in people he knows and trusts, well, who knows!
BUt anyway perhaps we will do OK and perhaps the board have it sussed. If the new manager brings in people he knows and trusts, well, who knows! Saint Jinx
  • Score: 0

9:14am Mon 30 Jun 14

Saint Jinx says...

search for truth wrote:
From today's Liverpool Echo

Adam Lallana will be quick to get Reds on the march

by Ian Doyle

FOR many years, Adam Lallana was arguably the best kept secret in English football.
But for Jimmy Case, the elegant midfielder was always destined to end up at Anfield.
Lallana is expected to be unveiled tomorrow as a Liverpool player having undergone a medical and finalised personal terms after the Reds thrashed out a deal worth an initial £23million with Southampton.
It concludes a lengthy pursuit of the 26-year-old, who has shot to prominence during the last 12 months leading to a call-up to England’s World Cup squad.
Case, a former favourite at both Anfield and on the South Coast, has watched Lallana develop since being snapped up by the Saints from neighbours Bournemouth’s Centre of Excellence aged just 12. And he believes the only surprise is the transfer hasn’t happened sooner.
“I’m more than pleased Liverpool have bought him,” says Case. “To be honest, I have always had a suspicion they may make a move for Lallana. He is a Brendan Rodgers type of player. I was speaking to people around Southampton a few years ago and even then I was saying it was a wonder nobody had come in to take Lallana when the club were in a lower division.
“Rickie Lambert was playing alongside him then, too.
“Lallana has always been a gifted boy. When he came from Bournemouth, even then there was a buzz about him. You knew he was a good player. I thought he would have left Southampton years ago. He has been their best player for a long, long time.”
Where Lallana will fit in among Liverpool’s array of attacking midfield talent has already become a topic of discussion among Reds fans. Case, though, believes such debate is unnecessary.
“I had David Fairclough on the phone asking what position Lallana can play,” he says. “And the answer I gave him was simple. He can play anywhere. Lallana is such a versatile player. Some of the skills he has on the ball, the way he receives it and controls it, are a real joy to watch.
“His creativity is excellent, but it is always within the framework of the team. He works hard and doesn’t shirk responsibility. Liverpool are buying themselves a tremendously gifted forward player who, for me, is going to enhance the team. That’s why Brendan is willing to spend big money on him. He knows what Lallana can offer.”
Lallana is a throwback to the days when players learned their trade in the lower leagues before blossoming on the bigger stage.
After making his debut for Southampton in August 2006, Lallana had a spell on loan back at Bournemouth before establishing himself as a Saints regular and helping earn back-to-back promotions from League One in 2010-11 and the Championship in 2011-12.
Yet it was only last season he was thrust into the limelight, shortlisted for the PFA Player of the Year award and named in the PFA Team of the Year, and earning a first England cap against Chile last November before appearing in all three of the Three Lions’ group matches at the World Cup.
“In some respects, Lallana for a long while was one of English football’s best-kept secrets,” says Case.
“Not too many leading clubs look to the lower league for players, but Southampton have been able to build up a squad over time.
“A team like Southampton, playing in League One and the Championship, isn’t going to be on the radar of the big clubs. They are more likely to look abroad.
“But what a collection of players they have had. Rickie Lambert has gone, Luke Shaw has gone, Lallana is going and Dejan Lovren is another who could easily be on the move.
“It’s a shame for Southampton, but that’s what happens when you encourage and foster such talent.”
Case reckons both Lallana and Rickie Lambert, who made the same move from St Mary’s to Anfield last month, have benefitted from a Southampton set-up that has previously developed talents such as Gareth Bale, Theo Walcott and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.
“If you play within the framework of a decent set-up such at the one at Southampton have had, you are going to improve as a player,” he says. “Lallana came on leaps and bounds last season. He didn’t look out of place in the Premier League at all. The same goes for Rickie Lambert.
“The pair of them have helped Southampton to reach the highest position I reckon they could possibly have achieved in the Premier League last season. In fact, it could even be deemed an overachievement. You forget just how far Lallana and Lambert have come. It is only just over three years ago they were in League One, and now they have both just appeared in a World Cup.”
So Jimmy Case was always Liverpool through and through. In spite of his allegiance he doesn't see us or want to see us as achievers. They all love to come here to pick our players and some of them like to spend their last few years here, but very few show the loyalty and commitment to our club that I would have expected.
[quote][p][bold]search for truth[/bold] wrote: From today's Liverpool Echo Adam Lallana will be quick to get Reds on the march by Ian Doyle FOR many years, Adam Lallana was arguably the best kept secret in English football. But for Jimmy Case, the elegant midfielder was always destined to end up at Anfield. Lallana is expected to be unveiled tomorrow as a Liverpool player having undergone a medical and finalised personal terms after the Reds thrashed out a deal worth an initial £23million with Southampton. It concludes a lengthy pursuit of the 26-year-old, who has shot to prominence during the last 12 months leading to a call-up to England’s World Cup squad. Case, a former favourite at both Anfield and on the South Coast, has watched Lallana develop since being snapped up by the Saints from neighbours Bournemouth’s Centre of Excellence aged just 12. And he believes the only surprise is the transfer hasn’t happened sooner. “I’m more than pleased Liverpool have bought him,” says Case. “To be honest, I have always had a suspicion they may make a move for Lallana. He is a Brendan Rodgers type of player. I was speaking to people around Southampton a few years ago and even then I was saying it was a wonder nobody had come in to take Lallana when the club were in a lower division. “Rickie Lambert was playing alongside him then, too. “Lallana has always been a gifted boy. When he came from Bournemouth, even then there was a buzz about him. You knew he was a good player. I thought he would have left Southampton years ago. He has been their best player for a long, long time.” Where Lallana will fit in among Liverpool’s array of attacking midfield talent has already become a topic of discussion among Reds fans. Case, though, believes such debate is unnecessary. “I had David Fairclough on the phone asking what position Lallana can play,” he says. “And the answer I gave him was simple. He can play anywhere. Lallana is such a versatile player. Some of the skills he has on the ball, the way he receives it and controls it, are a real joy to watch. “His creativity is excellent, but it is always within the framework of the team. He works hard and doesn’t shirk responsibility. Liverpool are buying themselves a tremendously gifted forward player who, for me, is going to enhance the team. That’s why Brendan is willing to spend big money on him. He knows what Lallana can offer.” Lallana is a throwback to the days when players learned their trade in the lower leagues before blossoming on the bigger stage. After making his debut for Southampton in August 2006, Lallana had a spell on loan back at Bournemouth before establishing himself as a Saints regular and helping earn back-to-back promotions from League One in 2010-11 and the Championship in 2011-12. Yet it was only last season he was thrust into the limelight, shortlisted for the PFA Player of the Year award and named in the PFA Team of the Year, and earning a first England cap against Chile last November before appearing in all three of the Three Lions’ group matches at the World Cup. “In some respects, Lallana for a long while was one of English football’s best-kept secrets,” says Case. “Not too many leading clubs look to the lower league for players, but Southampton have been able to build up a squad over time. “A team like Southampton, playing in League One and the Championship, isn’t going to be on the radar of the big clubs. They are more likely to look abroad. “But what a collection of players they have had. Rickie Lambert has gone, Luke Shaw has gone, Lallana is going and Dejan Lovren is another who could easily be on the move. “It’s a shame for Southampton, but that’s what happens when you encourage and foster such talent.” Case reckons both Lallana and Rickie Lambert, who made the same move from St Mary’s to Anfield last month, have benefitted from a Southampton set-up that has previously developed talents such as Gareth Bale, Theo Walcott and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain. “If you play within the framework of a decent set-up such at the one at Southampton have had, you are going to improve as a player,” he says. “Lallana came on leaps and bounds last season. He didn’t look out of place in the Premier League at all. The same goes for Rickie Lambert. “The pair of them have helped Southampton to reach the highest position I reckon they could possibly have achieved in the Premier League last season. In fact, it could even be deemed an overachievement. You forget just how far Lallana and Lambert have come. It is only just over three years ago they were in League One, and now they have both just appeared in a World Cup.”[/p][/quote]So Jimmy Case was always Liverpool through and through. In spite of his allegiance he doesn't see us or want to see us as achievers. They all love to come here to pick our players and some of them like to spend their last few years here, but very few show the loyalty and commitment to our club that I would have expected. Saint Jinx
  • Score: 2

9:37am Mon 30 Jun 14

killared says...

As a Frenchman I can tell you Daily Echo is lying big time there's nothing in L'equipe and France Football about Morgan since his Full 90 minute vs Ecuador . Daily Echo tell us who is your source
As a Frenchman I can tell you Daily Echo is lying big time there's nothing in L'equipe and France Football about Morgan since his Full 90 minute vs Ecuador . Daily Echo tell us who is your source killared
  • Score: 0

10:15am Mon 30 Jun 14

alanrr says...

I don't know if it is just me but as a ST holder for many years here is my 10 pence worth....we can play clyne LB, chambers RB, or yoshida LB, Ramirez in lala position ie anywhere across midfield, spider captain midfield, Osvaldo up front on his own so him and fonte are not near each other then others scattered about .....also why did we not get niemi too from brighton
I don't know if it is just me but as a ST holder for many years here is my 10 pence worth....we can play clyne LB, chambers RB, or yoshida LB, Ramirez in lala position ie anywhere across midfield, spider captain midfield, Osvaldo up front on his own so him and fonte are not near each other then others scattered about .....also why did we not get niemi too from brighton alanrr
  • Score: 1

11:49am Mon 30 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

alanrr wrote:
I don't know if it is just me but as a ST holder for many years here is my 10 pence worth....we can play clyne LB, chambers RB, or yoshida LB, Ramirez in lala position ie anywhere across midfield, spider captain midfield, Osvaldo up front on his own so him and fonte are not near each other then others scattered about .....also why did we not get niemi too from brighton
I think we could indeed do those things, although Yoshida at LB probably wouldn't be very successful. He's not a bad CB when he gets a run of matches, but he struggles at LB and RB.
[quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: I don't know if it is just me but as a ST holder for many years here is my 10 pence worth....we can play clyne LB, chambers RB, or yoshida LB, Ramirez in lala position ie anywhere across midfield, spider captain midfield, Osvaldo up front on his own so him and fonte are not near each other then others scattered about .....also why did we not get niemi too from brighton[/p][/quote]I think we could indeed do those things, although Yoshida at LB probably wouldn't be very successful. He's not a bad CB when he gets a run of matches, but he struggles at LB and RB. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

3:24pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Harry Bong says...

Yoshisda at LB is a good shout. Has played there for Japan and imo would make a better LB than CB. Although we should still go out an get a better player but Yoshida is perfect for providing cover.
Yoshisda at LB is a good shout. Has played there for Japan and imo would make a better LB than CB. Although we should still go out an get a better player but Yoshida is perfect for providing cover. Harry Bong
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6:13pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

It will cost Arse £20 Million now go for a swim in Brazil!
It will cost Arse £20 Million now go for a swim in Brazil! Fatty x Ford Worker
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