Saints legend Francis Benali backing Matt Targett to replace Luke Shaw in first team for 2014/15 Premier League season

MATT TARGETT

MATT TARGETT

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Saints legend Francis Benali insists young left back Matt Targett can replace fellow teen Luke Shaw in the Saints first team in 2014/15.

Targett will get a chance to make the left back slot his own following Shaw’s £27m move to Manchester United last month.

The 18-year-old played in both of Saints’ friendlies in Holland and Belgium last week, and is again expected to feature at League 1 club Swindon Town tonight (7.45pm).

Benali was himself a left back during his playing days and made almost 400 appearances there for Saints from 1988 to 2003.

He believes Southampton-born Targett, an under-19 England youth international, can establish himself in the Premier League next term.

Ronald Koeman is currently without a senior left back, but Nathaniel Clyne and Calum Chambers could both play there even if the manager does not want to sign a replacement for Shaw.

“It’s a perfect opportunity for someone like Matty to come in and stake his claim,” said Benali.

“Someone like him will know it’s time for him to step up to the first team.

“It’s a huge opportunity for any player coming through and to the guys that are already in the first team to show the manager what they can do.”

It was a breakthrough campaign for Targett last term, making the bench in both the Premier League and the League Cup.

He made his first senior appearance in the 4-0 pre season friendly win against Dutch side EHC Hoensbroek last Tuesday and started his first game against Belgian side Sporting Hasselt two days later.

There could opportunities for other Saints youngsters too, with Harrison Reed, Sam McQueen, Jake Sinclair, Jake Flannigan, Jack Stephens, Jason McCarthy, Lloyd Isgrove and Jordan Turnbull all making appearances during the pre season tour.

They will all be aiming to join fellow academy graduates James Ward-Prowse, Sam Gallagher and Chambers – the latter two being Targett’s England U19 colleagues – as first team players as Koeman prepares his squad for the new season. Benali said: “I certainly hope that we can keep bringing through players that have an affinity with Southampton.

“With the players that have moved on in the summer, it’s an opportunity for those players to come through.

“The quality that the club have brought through in recent years is great.

“The current crop of players have got a great opportunity to establish themselves at the highest level, and at their home club, next term.”

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6:35am Mon 21 Jul 14

saintgibbo says...

RoseGarrett wrote:
my aunty recently purchased a nearly new gold BMW M6 Convertible by working parttime off of a home computer. view

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Is she Lovrens agent?
[quote][p][bold]RoseGarrett[/bold] wrote: my aunty recently purchased a nearly new gold BMW M6 Convertible by working parttime off of a home computer. view ====>>>> > x.co/565vj[/p][/quote]Is she Lovrens agent? saintgibbo
  • Score: 32

6:36am Mon 21 Jul 14

donni1437 says...

That's right Franny, he'll fill his boots then be sold next summer. The board and agents are licking their chops...
That's right Franny, he'll fill his boots then be sold next summer. The board and agents are licking their chops... donni1437
  • Score: -30

6:43am Mon 21 Jul 14

justaSaintsfan says...

RoseGarrett wrote:
my aunty recently purchased a nearly new gold BMW M6 Convertible by working parttime off of a home computer. view

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> x.co/565vj
You fibber!!!
[quote][p][bold]RoseGarrett[/bold] wrote: my aunty recently purchased a nearly new gold BMW M6 Convertible by working parttime off of a home computer. view ====>>>> > x.co/565vj[/p][/quote]You fibber!!! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 18

6:45am Mon 21 Jul 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Hope Matty can step up, but it is not fair on him to have to fight a relegation battle in his first season.

Four gone and four to go before the window closes means we will be lucky to even get this number of replacements in never mind the additional four quality players needed before the exodus.

Sorry for RonKo who will not now be able to stop Morgan from going.
Then Cork, Chambers & J-Rod to follow. Only Fonte, Cline & Victor's agents to get working on their moves.

Morgan is worth £30m so hold out for that Les, don't bend over & let Arsenal or Spuds rape you for less.
Top players will not come with all our best players gone, should have bought first.

Anything better than bottom three looks beyond us now.
Hope Matty can step up, but it is not fair on him to have to fight a relegation battle in his first season. Four gone and four to go before the window closes means we will be lucky to even get this number of replacements in never mind the additional four quality players needed before the exodus. Sorry for RonKo who will not now be able to stop Morgan from going. Then Cork, Chambers & J-Rod to follow. Only Fonte, Cline & Victor's agents to get working on their moves. Morgan is worth £30m so hold out for that Les, don't bend over & let Arsenal or Spuds rape you for less. Top players will not come with all our best players gone, should have bought first. Anything better than bottom three looks beyond us now. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: -76

6:56am Mon 21 Jul 14

donni1437 says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Hope Matty can step up, but it is not fair on him to have to fight a relegation battle in his first season.

Four gone and four to go before the window closes means we will be lucky to even get this number of replacements in never mind the additional four quality players needed before the exodus.

Sorry for RonKo who will not now be able to stop Morgan from going.
Then Cork, Chambers & J-Rod to follow. Only Fonte, Cline & Victor's agents to get working on their moves.

Morgan is worth £30m so hold out for that Les, don't bend over & let Arsenal or Spuds rape you for less.
Top players will not come with all our best players gone, should have bought first.

Anything better than bottom three looks beyond us now.
I think there will be three worse teams than saints, plus we should see more players in. Top half is looking a target for us this season, but I bet RK can't wait for this hellish transfer window to end. Will we make a PL record of most 1st team players leaving in a window?
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Hope Matty can step up, but it is not fair on him to have to fight a relegation battle in his first season. Four gone and four to go before the window closes means we will be lucky to even get this number of replacements in never mind the additional four quality players needed before the exodus. Sorry for RonKo who will not now be able to stop Morgan from going. Then Cork, Chambers & J-Rod to follow. Only Fonte, Cline & Victor's agents to get working on their moves. Morgan is worth £30m so hold out for that Les, don't bend over & let Arsenal or Spuds rape you for less. Top players will not come with all our best players gone, should have bought first. Anything better than bottom three looks beyond us now.[/p][/quote]I think there will be three worse teams than saints, plus we should see more players in. Top half is looking a target for us this season, but I bet RK can't wait for this hellish transfer window to end. Will we make a PL record of most 1st team players leaving in a window? donni1437
  • Score: 42

6:57am Mon 21 Jul 14

KSO16R says...

donni1437 wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Hope Matty can step up, but it is not fair on him to have to fight a relegation battle in his first season.

Four gone and four to go before the window closes means we will be lucky to even get this number of replacements in never mind the additional four quality players needed before the exodus.

Sorry for RonKo who will not now be able to stop Morgan from going.
Then Cork, Chambers & J-Rod to follow. Only Fonte, Cline & Victor's agents to get working on their moves.

Morgan is worth £30m so hold out for that Les, don't bend over & let Arsenal or Spuds rape you for less.
Top players will not come with all our best players gone, should have bought first.

Anything better than bottom three looks beyond us now.
I think there will be three worse teams than saints, plus we should see more players in. Top half is looking a target for us this season, but I bet RK can't wait for this hellish transfer window to end. Will we make a PL record of most 1st team players leaving in a window?
Agreed!
[quote][p][bold]donni1437[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Hope Matty can step up, but it is not fair on him to have to fight a relegation battle in his first season. Four gone and four to go before the window closes means we will be lucky to even get this number of replacements in never mind the additional four quality players needed before the exodus. Sorry for RonKo who will not now be able to stop Morgan from going. Then Cork, Chambers & J-Rod to follow. Only Fonte, Cline & Victor's agents to get working on their moves. Morgan is worth £30m so hold out for that Les, don't bend over & let Arsenal or Spuds rape you for less. Top players will not come with all our best players gone, should have bought first. Anything better than bottom three looks beyond us now.[/p][/quote]I think there will be three worse teams than saints, plus we should see more players in. Top half is looking a target for us this season, but I bet RK can't wait for this hellish transfer window to end. Will we make a PL record of most 1st team players leaving in a window?[/p][/quote]Agreed! KSO16R
  • Score: 13

7:16am Mon 21 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -10

7:22am Mon 21 Jul 14

Epsom Saint says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Hope Matty can step up, but it is not fair on him to have to fight a relegation battle in his first season.

Four gone and four to go before the window closes means we will be lucky to even get this number of replacements in never mind the additional four quality players needed before the exodus.

Sorry for RonKo who will not now be able to stop Morgan from going.
Then Cork, Chambers & J-Rod to follow. Only Fonte, Cline & Victor's agents to get working on their moves.

Morgan is worth £30m so hold out for that Les, don't bend over & let Arsenal or Spuds rape you for less.
Top players will not come with all our best players gone, should have bought first.

Anything better than bottom three looks beyond us now.
You say the same thing in every post you make - you're getting boring.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Hope Matty can step up, but it is not fair on him to have to fight a relegation battle in his first season. Four gone and four to go before the window closes means we will be lucky to even get this number of replacements in never mind the additional four quality players needed before the exodus. Sorry for RonKo who will not now be able to stop Morgan from going. Then Cork, Chambers & J-Rod to follow. Only Fonte, Cline & Victor's agents to get working on their moves. Morgan is worth £30m so hold out for that Les, don't bend over & let Arsenal or Spuds rape you for less. Top players will not come with all our best players gone, should have bought first. Anything better than bottom three looks beyond us now.[/p][/quote]You say the same thing in every post you make - you're getting boring. Epsom Saint
  • Score: 71

7:29am Mon 21 Jul 14

warrens 76 says...

Last year we were living the dream, now we are enduring the boards SELF INFLICTED nightmare.
Last year we were living the dream, now we are enduring the boards SELF INFLICTED nightmare. warrens 76
  • Score: 0

7:31am Mon 21 Jul 14

John Smith34 says...

I would like to take this opportunity to not wish Dejan Lovren any luck or best wishes whatsoever....you have been an absolute disgrace and you will get SOME reception when you return to St.Marys this season....if you haven't demanded a move cos your head is already at Real Madrid. Ideal scenario at Anfield in a few weeks = Lallana gets subbed at half time and Pelle rises like a salmon in the 90th minute to out jump Lovren to score the winner with an added cheeky elbow to the side of his head for good measure.....
I would like to take this opportunity to not wish Dejan Lovren any luck or best wishes whatsoever....you have been an absolute disgrace and you will get SOME reception when you return to St.Marys this season....if you haven't demanded a move cos your head is already at Real Madrid. Ideal scenario at Anfield in a few weeks = Lallana gets subbed at half time and Pelle rises like a salmon in the 90th minute to out jump Lovren to score the winner with an added cheeky elbow to the side of his head for good measure..... John Smith34
  • Score: 77

7:38am Mon 21 Jul 14

Public Health says...

It is great that we train and build young players, but surely not as a feeder club. We need to keep our best young players and add quality where we can't produce our own. I would, however, rather have local kids who want to play for us than older players here for the money or as a leg-up into the premier league, as it seems was the case for Lovren.

RK will have to use all his skills to keep team spirit high; if he brings new players in it will take time to get them playing the right way- look at spurs last year spent a fortune, but played badly first half of season. So he has a tough job and will need all of our support when the season starts.
It is great that we train and build young players, but surely not as a feeder club. We need to keep our best young players and add quality where we can't produce our own. I would, however, rather have local kids who want to play for us than older players here for the money or as a leg-up into the premier league, as it seems was the case for Lovren. RK will have to use all his skills to keep team spirit high; if he brings new players in it will take time to get them playing the right way- look at spurs last year spent a fortune, but played badly first half of season. So he has a tough job and will need all of our support when the season starts. Public Health
  • Score: 27

7:50am Mon 21 Jul 14

elvis says...

Scrooge McDuck wrote ..... we're crap , were going to get relegated, bottom 3 for sure !!
The optimism on here is unbelievable .... so far we have lost just 3 players .... Riki who was at best only going to be a regular on the bench ,Lalana who's attitude towards the end quite frankly sucked & Shaw who left for an absolute ridiculous amount of money for an 18 year old with less than a season & a half of first team footie under his belt . All 3 have been replaced so it would seem ,with 2 new arrivals & at least 3 players from within the squad able to play at lb ....yes we might loose Loovens ,but will anybody really be sorry to see him go, ok Spider would be a massive miss (if & it is if he goes ) but that would still leave us with Corkie & Wanyama .... I think we'll sign at least 3 more players before the window closes and apart from the Liverpool game we have a great chance of racking up some serious points from the first quarter of the season .... things culd be a lot worse Spuds you hate seem to be buying half of Swanseas 1st team and their deluded manager thinks this will be enough to win them the league !!!! X
Scrooge McDuck wrote ..... we're crap , were going to get relegated, bottom 3 for sure !! The optimism on here is unbelievable .... so far we have lost just 3 players .... Riki who was at best only going to be a regular on the bench ,Lalana who's attitude towards the end quite frankly sucked & Shaw who left for an absolute ridiculous amount of money for an 18 year old with less than a season & a half of first team footie under his belt . All 3 have been replaced so it would seem ,with 2 new arrivals & at least 3 players from within the squad able to play at lb ....yes we might loose Loovens ,but will anybody really be sorry to see him go, ok Spider would be a massive miss (if & it is if he goes ) but that would still leave us with Corkie & Wanyama .... I think we'll sign at least 3 more players before the window closes and apart from the Liverpool game we have a great chance of racking up some serious points from the first quarter of the season .... things culd be a lot worse Spuds you hate seem to be buying half of Swanseas 1st team and their deluded manager thinks this will be enough to win them the league !!!! X elvis
  • Score: 37

8:00am Mon 21 Jul 14

milton road says...

You can't just drop Matt into the first team, you have to being him in little by little as we did Shaw. Whatever happens we need another left back.
I believe Yoshida is capable of filling in for Lovren. We are still going to need at least 1 if not 2 centrebacks., because Hoov is not up to it. not sure how good Stephens is.
Lovren became a hit for Saints and in the media during the first 10-11 games last season. When we really started well, after that we shipped a lot of goals, though we tightened up at the end. Which all seems to be connected more to Vic than Lovren.
Yes Lovren was a good buy and yes Luke is a great player. Yet the number of times we were in trouble last season because Luke was caught up field on a fast counter attack and the statistics show taking away the first ten games of our first two seasons, that the pairing of Fonte and Yoshida conceded less goals than Fonte and Lovren. People have come down on Yoshi over 1 game against Villa, his first of the season last year, yet he did little wrong when called on after that.
When people say the attack has been weakened how? RL was a fantastic player for Saints, yet around 50% of his goals in the premier were free kicks and penalties. The number of goals from open play was not that impressive at all. Lallana scored 10 goals which is good return from a midfield player but his assists were not so good as they should of been.
The players we have lost were great players for the club and they will be missed but they are not irreplaceable.
We have to accept that Poch made major tactical errors in the cups that could of cost us a place in the Europa league and possibly of kept the team. As we have seen though Poch is a man of double standards who would rather Saints were not in the Europa league as he stated, it was more trouble than it was worth. Then went and joined a club because they were in the Europa League.
Things do not always go forward or back they just change and change is not always for the worse.
You can't just drop Matt into the first team, you have to being him in little by little as we did Shaw. Whatever happens we need another left back. I believe Yoshida is capable of filling in for Lovren. We are still going to need at least 1 if not 2 centrebacks., because Hoov is not up to it. not sure how good Stephens is. Lovren became a hit for Saints and in the media during the first 10-11 games last season. When we really started well, after that we shipped a lot of goals, though we tightened up at the end. Which all seems to be connected more to Vic than Lovren. Yes Lovren was a good buy and yes Luke is a great player. Yet the number of times we were in trouble last season because Luke was caught up field on a fast counter attack and the statistics show taking away the first ten games of our first two seasons, that the pairing of Fonte and Yoshida conceded less goals than Fonte and Lovren. People have come down on Yoshi over 1 game against Villa, his first of the season last year, yet he did little wrong when called on after that. When people say the attack has been weakened how? RL was a fantastic player for Saints, yet around 50% of his goals in the premier were free kicks and penalties. The number of goals from open play was not that impressive at all. Lallana scored 10 goals which is good return from a midfield player but his assists were not so good as they should of been. The players we have lost were great players for the club and they will be missed but they are not irreplaceable. We have to accept that Poch made major tactical errors in the cups that could of cost us a place in the Europa league and possibly of kept the team. As we have seen though Poch is a man of double standards who would rather Saints were not in the Europa league as he stated, it was more trouble than it was worth. Then went and joined a club because they were in the Europa League. Things do not always go forward or back they just change and change is not always for the worse. milton road
  • Score: 64

8:19am Mon 21 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

It is bad enough being swamped by the neggies and now we are plagued with spam messages, a word of advice, the DE will remove the offending posts, but if you use the quote function, you will perpetuate them, best to report and ignor them, do not quote them, thanks. (That includes the spam messages!)
It is bad enough being swamped by the neggies and now we are plagued with spam messages, a word of advice, the DE will remove the offending posts, but if you use the quote function, you will perpetuate them, best to report and ignor them, do not quote them, thanks. (That includes the spam messages!) OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 10

8:24am Mon 21 Jul 14

donni1437 says...

elvis wrote:
Scrooge McDuck wrote ..... we're crap , were going to get relegated, bottom 3 for sure !!
The optimism on here is unbelievable .... so far we have lost just 3 players .... Riki who was at best only going to be a regular on the bench ,Lalana who's attitude towards the end quite frankly sucked & Shaw who left for an absolute ridiculous amount of money for an 18 year old with less than a season & a half of first team footie under his belt . All 3 have been replaced so it would seem ,with 2 new arrivals & at least 3 players from within the squad able to play at lb ....yes we might loose Loovens ,but will anybody really be sorry to see him go, ok Spider would be a massive miss (if & it is if he goes ) but that would still leave us with Corkie & Wanyama .... I think we'll sign at least 3 more players before the window closes and apart from the Liverpool game we have a great chance of racking up some serious points from the first quarter of the season .... things culd be a lot worse Spuds you hate seem to be buying half of Swanseas 1st team and their deluded manager thinks this will be enough to win them the league !!!! X
You have to admit it's hard to be too optimistic when potentially 6 or 7 key people from last season could leave in a transfer window. OK we have replaced 3 so far RK, Tadic and Pelle who on the face of it seem decent replacements but as yet they are unproven in the PL.

Sure we could pick up some early points like we did last year and start the season in style, but if we start slowly we get pulled into that mini league between 9th and 18th. A few key injuries could seriously exposure our lack of squad depth. But let's judge the squad come the end of the transfer window.
[quote][p][bold]elvis[/bold] wrote: Scrooge McDuck wrote ..... we're crap , were going to get relegated, bottom 3 for sure !! The optimism on here is unbelievable .... so far we have lost just 3 players .... Riki who was at best only going to be a regular on the bench ,Lalana who's attitude towards the end quite frankly sucked & Shaw who left for an absolute ridiculous amount of money for an 18 year old with less than a season & a half of first team footie under his belt . All 3 have been replaced so it would seem ,with 2 new arrivals & at least 3 players from within the squad able to play at lb ....yes we might loose Loovens ,but will anybody really be sorry to see him go, ok Spider would be a massive miss (if & it is if he goes ) but that would still leave us with Corkie & Wanyama .... I think we'll sign at least 3 more players before the window closes and apart from the Liverpool game we have a great chance of racking up some serious points from the first quarter of the season .... things culd be a lot worse Spuds you hate seem to be buying half of Swanseas 1st team and their deluded manager thinks this will be enough to win them the league !!!! X[/p][/quote]You have to admit it's hard to be too optimistic when potentially 6 or 7 key people from last season could leave in a transfer window. OK we have replaced 3 so far RK, Tadic and Pelle who on the face of it seem decent replacements but as yet they are unproven in the PL. Sure we could pick up some early points like we did last year and start the season in style, but if we start slowly we get pulled into that mini league between 9th and 18th. A few key injuries could seriously exposure our lack of squad depth. But let's judge the squad come the end of the transfer window. donni1437
  • Score: 5

8:53am Mon 21 Jul 14

alanrr says...

Well I’m optimistic about the season, we have players that have just played full games in the recent world cup, not ones that got 20 minutes, half a game or only played cos there was nothing riding on it. We will not be one of the bottom 3 teams in this division and can’t wait for it all to begin. Bring it on.
Well I’m optimistic about the season, we have players that have just played full games in the recent world cup, not ones that got 20 minutes, half a game or only played cos there was nothing riding on it. We will not be one of the bottom 3 teams in this division and can’t wait for it all to begin. Bring it on. alanrr
  • Score: 19

9:00am Mon 21 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back.

its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money.

the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief.
just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back. its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money. the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 10

9:07am Mon 21 Jul 14

Chipmonk1 says...

milton road wrote:
You can't just drop Matt into the first team, you have to being him in little by little as we did Shaw. Whatever happens we need another left back.
I believe Yoshida is capable of filling in for Lovren. We are still going to need at least 1 if not 2 centrebacks., because Hoov is not up to it. not sure how good Stephens is.
Lovren became a hit for Saints and in the media during the first 10-11 games last season. When we really started well, after that we shipped a lot of goals, though we tightened up at the end. Which all seems to be connected more to Vic than Lovren.
Yes Lovren was a good buy and yes Luke is a great player. Yet the number of times we were in trouble last season because Luke was caught up field on a fast counter attack and the statistics show taking away the first ten games of our first two seasons, that the pairing of Fonte and Yoshida conceded less goals than Fonte and Lovren. People have come down on Yoshi over 1 game against Villa, his first of the season last year, yet he did little wrong when called on after that.
When people say the attack has been weakened how? RL was a fantastic player for Saints, yet around 50% of his goals in the premier were free kicks and penalties. The number of goals from open play was not that impressive at all. Lallana scored 10 goals which is good return from a midfield player but his assists were not so good as they should of been.
The players we have lost were great players for the club and they will be missed but they are not irreplaceable.
We have to accept that Poch made major tactical errors in the cups that could of cost us a place in the Europa league and possibly of kept the team. As we have seen though Poch is a man of double standards who would rather Saints were not in the Europa league as he stated, it was more trouble than it was worth. Then went and joined a club because they were in the Europa League.
Things do not always go forward or back they just change and change is not always for the worse.
Milton if I had written this I would be well chuffed with me self. Well written and argued point of view. I think more players will come (as promised) unlike teams from the north saints just don't conduct their business in the media. I distinctly remember last summers signings coming out of the blue and not rumoured in the press. Also as you so eloquently put Yoshi IS a good CB. I also think an older more mature and dare I say more loved Gaston will kick on this year. MoPo just did not have faith in him. On a side and slightly churlish note I watched Seattle vs Spuds on ESPN and other than Saints I have never cheered a team on so much as I did the Sounders.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: You can't just drop Matt into the first team, you have to being him in little by little as we did Shaw. Whatever happens we need another left back. I believe Yoshida is capable of filling in for Lovren. We are still going to need at least 1 if not 2 centrebacks., because Hoov is not up to it. not sure how good Stephens is. Lovren became a hit for Saints and in the media during the first 10-11 games last season. When we really started well, after that we shipped a lot of goals, though we tightened up at the end. Which all seems to be connected more to Vic than Lovren. Yes Lovren was a good buy and yes Luke is a great player. Yet the number of times we were in trouble last season because Luke was caught up field on a fast counter attack and the statistics show taking away the first ten games of our first two seasons, that the pairing of Fonte and Yoshida conceded less goals than Fonte and Lovren. People have come down on Yoshi over 1 game against Villa, his first of the season last year, yet he did little wrong when called on after that. When people say the attack has been weakened how? RL was a fantastic player for Saints, yet around 50% of his goals in the premier were free kicks and penalties. The number of goals from open play was not that impressive at all. Lallana scored 10 goals which is good return from a midfield player but his assists were not so good as they should of been. The players we have lost were great players for the club and they will be missed but they are not irreplaceable. We have to accept that Poch made major tactical errors in the cups that could of cost us a place in the Europa league and possibly of kept the team. As we have seen though Poch is a man of double standards who would rather Saints were not in the Europa league as he stated, it was more trouble than it was worth. Then went and joined a club because they were in the Europa League. Things do not always go forward or back they just change and change is not always for the worse.[/p][/quote]Milton if I had written this I would be well chuffed with me self. Well written and argued point of view. I think more players will come (as promised) unlike teams from the north saints just don't conduct their business in the media. I distinctly remember last summers signings coming out of the blue and not rumoured in the press. Also as you so eloquently put Yoshi IS a good CB. I also think an older more mature and dare I say more loved Gaston will kick on this year. MoPo just did not have faith in him. On a side and slightly churlish note I watched Seattle vs Spuds on ESPN and other than Saints I have never cheered a team on so much as I did the Sounders. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 11

9:10am Mon 21 Jul 14

Chipmonk1 says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back.

its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money.

the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief.
What he said. 👍👍👍👍👍
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[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back. its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money. the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief.[/p][/quote]What he said. 👍👍👍👍👍 👍👍 Chipmonk1
  • Score: -1

9:16am Mon 21 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back.

its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money.

the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief.
The trouble we have now is the young players coming into the team haven't got the quality around them to protect them.we could introduce shaw and ward prowse because of the players around them.its a very different scenario introducing kids into an average team.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back. its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money. the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief.[/p][/quote]The trouble we have now is the young players coming into the team haven't got the quality around them to protect them.we could introduce shaw and ward prowse because of the players around them.its a very different scenario introducing kids into an average team. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 7

9:19am Mon 21 Jul 14

Dave Juson says...

donni1437 wrote:
elvis wrote:
Scrooge McDuck wrote ..... we're crap , were going to get relegated, bottom 3 for sure !!
The optimism on here is unbelievable .... so far we have lost just 3 players .... Riki who was at best only going to be a regular on the bench ,Lalana who's attitude towards the end quite frankly sucked & Shaw who left for an absolute ridiculous amount of money for an 18 year old with less than a season & a half of first team footie under his belt . All 3 have been replaced so it would seem ,with 2 new arrivals & at least 3 players from within the squad able to play at lb ....yes we might loose Loovens ,but will anybody really be sorry to see him go, ok Spider would be a massive miss (if & it is if he goes ) but that would still leave us with Corkie & Wanyama .... I think we'll sign at least 3 more players before the window closes and apart from the Liverpool game we have a great chance of racking up some serious points from the first quarter of the season .... things culd be a lot worse Spuds you hate seem to be buying half of Swanseas 1st team and their deluded manager thinks this will be enough to win them the league !!!! X
You have to admit it's hard to be too optimistic when potentially 6 or 7 key people from last season could leave in a transfer window. OK we have replaced 3 so far RK, Tadic and Pelle who on the face of it seem decent replacements but as yet they are unproven in the PL.

Sure we could pick up some early points like we did last year and start the season in style, but if we start slowly we get pulled into that mini league between 9th and 18th. A few key injuries could seriously exposure our lack of squad depth. But let's judge the squad come the end of the transfer window.
Donni1417: you are worried because “potentially” we could lose six or seven or more players!
We could “potentially” be swept away by a tidal wave or hit by a meteorite; the list of potential disaster and tragedies is infinite, why pick on the Saints?
Word of advice: do not venture into the streets of Southampton for a fortnight or two, you are potentially at risk of being run over by RoseGarrett’s Aunty Amelia driving her white Kia Cadenza Sedan .
Sheeesh!
[quote][p][bold]donni1437[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvis[/bold] wrote: Scrooge McDuck wrote ..... we're crap , were going to get relegated, bottom 3 for sure !! The optimism on here is unbelievable .... so far we have lost just 3 players .... Riki who was at best only going to be a regular on the bench ,Lalana who's attitude towards the end quite frankly sucked & Shaw who left for an absolute ridiculous amount of money for an 18 year old with less than a season & a half of first team footie under his belt . All 3 have been replaced so it would seem ,with 2 new arrivals & at least 3 players from within the squad able to play at lb ....yes we might loose Loovens ,but will anybody really be sorry to see him go, ok Spider would be a massive miss (if & it is if he goes ) but that would still leave us with Corkie & Wanyama .... I think we'll sign at least 3 more players before the window closes and apart from the Liverpool game we have a great chance of racking up some serious points from the first quarter of the season .... things culd be a lot worse Spuds you hate seem to be buying half of Swanseas 1st team and their deluded manager thinks this will be enough to win them the league !!!! X[/p][/quote]You have to admit it's hard to be too optimistic when potentially 6 or 7 key people from last season could leave in a transfer window. OK we have replaced 3 so far RK, Tadic and Pelle who on the face of it seem decent replacements but as yet they are unproven in the PL. Sure we could pick up some early points like we did last year and start the season in style, but if we start slowly we get pulled into that mini league between 9th and 18th. A few key injuries could seriously exposure our lack of squad depth. But let's judge the squad come the end of the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Donni1417: you are worried because “potentially” we could lose six or seven or more players! We could “potentially” be swept away by a tidal wave or hit by a meteorite; the list of potential disaster and tragedies is infinite, why pick on the Saints? Word of advice: do not venture into the streets of Southampton for a fortnight or two, you are potentially at risk of being run over by RoseGarrett’s Aunty Amelia driving her white Kia Cadenza Sedan . Sheeesh! Dave Juson
  • Score: 3

9:23am Mon 21 Jul 14

Clever Dick says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back.

its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money.

the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief.
There you go again, letting facts get in the way of things. These same idiots will disappear as soon as we start bringing players in, just like the skunt posters do when their predictions of certain relegation fail to materialise.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back. its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money. the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief.[/p][/quote]There you go again, letting facts get in the way of things. These same idiots will disappear as soon as we start bringing players in, just like the skunt posters do when their predictions of certain relegation fail to materialise. Clever Dick
  • Score: 6

9:25am Mon 21 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back.

its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money.

the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief.
Targett had always been spoken of very highly. My slight concern was when Luke was injured last season Clyne was used at LB and Chambers at RB rather than giving Targett a run out. He didn't even get the cups when we fielded weaker teams. Hope we aren't rushing him.

I have noticed a shift of emphasis by the happy clappers. A while ago it was about how the replacements would be better and we would push on from 8th. There is now posts from the same people saying we won't be in a relegation battle.

I think we can all agree enough is enough now. If this board goes on to sell Morgan and Jay Rod then they should be tarred, feathered and hung by their testicles from the bargate.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back. its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money. the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief.[/p][/quote]Targett had always been spoken of very highly. My slight concern was when Luke was injured last season Clyne was used at LB and Chambers at RB rather than giving Targett a run out. He didn't even get the cups when we fielded weaker teams. Hope we aren't rushing him. I have noticed a shift of emphasis by the happy clappers. A while ago it was about how the replacements would be better and we would push on from 8th. There is now posts from the same people saying we won't be in a relegation battle. I think we can all agree enough is enough now. If this board goes on to sell Morgan and Jay Rod then they should be tarred, feathered and hung by their testicles from the bargate. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 4

9:41am Mon 21 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
Freddie and Les are not the ones to be making any sort of statements. They should be silent, doing their work in the background where nobody sees or hears them. The face of any club are the managers therefore the only people making regular statements are the Rambo brothers. Only on rare occasions should a chairman or anyone else in a club even be seen. You claim to be a football fan and you don't seem to have grasped anything really Samuel - you are a very disappointing amoeba indeed.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]Freddie and Les are not the ones to be making any sort of statements. They should be silent, doing their work in the background where nobody sees or hears them. The face of any club are the managers therefore the only people making regular statements are the Rambo brothers. Only on rare occasions should a chairman or anyone else in a club even be seen. You claim to be a football fan and you don't seem to have grasped anything really Samuel - you are a very disappointing amoeba indeed. jls217
  • Score: 3

9:46am Mon 21 Jul 14

Chipmonk1 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back.

its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money.

the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief.
Targett had always been spoken of very highly. My slight concern was when Luke was injured last season Clyne was used at LB and Chambers at RB rather than giving Targett a run out. He didn't even get the cups when we fielded weaker teams. Hope we aren't rushing him.

I have noticed a shift of emphasis by the happy clappers. A while ago it was about how the replacements would be better and we would push on from 8th. There is now posts from the same people saying we won't be in a relegation battle.

I think we can all agree enough is enough now. If this board goes on to sell Morgan and Jay Rod then they should be tarred, feathered and hung by their testicles from the bargate.
Not all happy clappers seed. I don't see us pushing on but rather more sensibly maintaining our position in a financially secure manner. When we sat at the base of league 1 I dreamed that we would somehow make it back to the premier league. Do I want us to qualify for Europe? Hell yeah! But not if it means fighting relegation from league 2, a'la our fishy friends, because we flew too close to the sun before we were able. A couple of years of consolidation and then a push would be more sustainable and likely to succeed. The problem the current administration has is getting our best players to be patient. Sadly patience is not a word that gen Y seem to understand.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back. its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money. the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief.[/p][/quote]Targett had always been spoken of very highly. My slight concern was when Luke was injured last season Clyne was used at LB and Chambers at RB rather than giving Targett a run out. He didn't even get the cups when we fielded weaker teams. Hope we aren't rushing him. I have noticed a shift of emphasis by the happy clappers. A while ago it was about how the replacements would be better and we would push on from 8th. There is now posts from the same people saying we won't be in a relegation battle. I think we can all agree enough is enough now. If this board goes on to sell Morgan and Jay Rod then they should be tarred, feathered and hung by their testicles from the bargate.[/p][/quote]Not all happy clappers seed. I don't see us pushing on but rather more sensibly maintaining our position in a financially secure manner. When we sat at the base of league 1 I dreamed that we would somehow make it back to the premier league. Do I want us to qualify for Europe? Hell yeah! But not if it means fighting relegation from league 2, a'la our fishy friends, because we flew too close to the sun before we were able. A couple of years of consolidation and then a push would be more sustainable and likely to succeed. The problem the current administration has is getting our best players to be patient. Sadly patience is not a word that gen Y seem to understand. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 9

9:47am Mon 21 Jul 14

Invidia says...

Somebody asked what a WUM meant apparently it means wind up merchant and to think I always thought it was the England managers tipple it is said that he drinks it with coke.
Somebody asked what a WUM meant apparently it means wind up merchant and to think I always thought it was the England managers tipple it is said that he drinks it with coke. Invidia
  • Score: 10

9:47am Mon 21 Jul 14

Dave Juson says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back.

its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money.

the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief.
Targett had always been spoken of very highly. My slight concern was when Luke was injured last season Clyne was used at LB and Chambers at RB rather than giving Targett a run out. He didn't even get the cups when we fielded weaker teams. Hope we aren't rushing him.

I have noticed a shift of emphasis by the happy clappers. A while ago it was about how the replacements would be better and we would push on from 8th. There is now posts from the same people saying we won't be in a relegation battle.

I think we can all agree enough is enough now. If this board goes on to sell Morgan and Jay Rod then they should be tarred, feathered and hung by their testicles from the bargate.
Alas Seedhouse, slavery is illegal, even in football, so if players are determined to leave they will. The board cannot be blamed for that.
Unlike you, I have no idea what is “enough” – and neither, I imagine, has anyone else on this thread. Also, given that very few of the matters you have raised of late have been resolved, it is a little early to be discussing retribution should they not be resolved to your satisfaction.
Two issues relating to that. ONE: Katarina Liebherr is hardly going to be worried about half the punishment. TWO: plenty of Saints fans would pay good money to have to that done to them. And, given the relish with which you prophesise doom, I have a suspicion you could be one of them.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back. its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money. the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief.[/p][/quote]Targett had always been spoken of very highly. My slight concern was when Luke was injured last season Clyne was used at LB and Chambers at RB rather than giving Targett a run out. He didn't even get the cups when we fielded weaker teams. Hope we aren't rushing him. I have noticed a shift of emphasis by the happy clappers. A while ago it was about how the replacements would be better and we would push on from 8th. There is now posts from the same people saying we won't be in a relegation battle. I think we can all agree enough is enough now. If this board goes on to sell Morgan and Jay Rod then they should be tarred, feathered and hung by their testicles from the bargate.[/p][/quote]Alas Seedhouse, slavery is illegal, even in football, so if players are determined to leave they will. The board cannot be blamed for that. Unlike you, I have no idea what is “enough” – and neither, I imagine, has anyone else on this thread. Also, given that very few of the matters you have raised of late have been resolved, it is a little early to be discussing retribution should they not be resolved to your satisfaction. Two issues relating to that. ONE: Katarina Liebherr is hardly going to be worried about half the punishment. TWO: plenty of Saints fans would pay good money to have to that done to them. And, given the relish with which you prophesise doom, I have a suspicion you could be one of them. Dave Juson
  • Score: -2

9:47am Mon 21 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back.

its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money.

the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief.
Targett had always been spoken of very highly. My slight concern was when Luke was injured last season Clyne was used at LB and Chambers at RB rather than giving Targett a run out. He didn't even get the cups when we fielded weaker teams. Hope we aren't rushing him.

I have noticed a shift of emphasis by the happy clappers. A while ago it was about how the replacements would be better and we would push on from 8th. There is now posts from the same people saying we won't be in a relegation battle.

I think we can all agree enough is enough now. If this board goes on to sell Morgan and Jay Rod then they should be tarred, feathered and hung by their testicles from the bargate.
seed if he wasn't picked would that be because he wasn't ready or because MP didn't like him? we will never know, one thing we do know is that MP did have his little clique of players and then the rest of the squad. we do know that after having a great season corky was dropped like a hot stone with big Vic taking his place, now I like Big Vic and think he was one of the main reasons we had a good season, but cork was also a great player and should have got more game time before injuries got him in the team and he could show how good he is

I think some are saying we wont get relegated because a lot of wums and neggies keep saying we are doomed and will be lucky to stay up. its just a response to others claims. I have never said that we will stay up basically because we will stay up, we haven't brought in half the players we will do so we will have to wait and see who we bring in before we right off the season.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back. its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money. the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief.[/p][/quote]Targett had always been spoken of very highly. My slight concern was when Luke was injured last season Clyne was used at LB and Chambers at RB rather than giving Targett a run out. He didn't even get the cups when we fielded weaker teams. Hope we aren't rushing him. I have noticed a shift of emphasis by the happy clappers. A while ago it was about how the replacements would be better and we would push on from 8th. There is now posts from the same people saying we won't be in a relegation battle. I think we can all agree enough is enough now. If this board goes on to sell Morgan and Jay Rod then they should be tarred, feathered and hung by their testicles from the bargate.[/p][/quote]seed if he wasn't picked would that be because he wasn't ready or because MP didn't like him? we will never know, one thing we do know is that MP did have his little clique of players and then the rest of the squad. we do know that after having a great season corky was dropped like a hot stone with big Vic taking his place, now I like Big Vic and think he was one of the main reasons we had a good season, but cork was also a great player and should have got more game time before injuries got him in the team and he could show how good he is I think some are saying we wont get relegated because a lot of wums and neggies keep saying we are doomed and will be lucky to stay up. its just a response to others claims. I have never said that we will stay up basically because we will stay up, we haven't brought in half the players we will do so we will have to wait and see who we bring in before we right off the season. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 4

10:04am Mon 21 Jul 14

jls217 says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Hope Matty can step up, but it is not fair on him to have to fight a relegation battle in his first season.

Four gone and four to go before the window closes means we will be lucky to even get this number of replacements in never mind the additional four quality players needed before the exodus.

Sorry for RonKo who will not now be able to stop Morgan from going.
Then Cork, Chambers & J-Rod to follow. Only Fonte, Cline & Victor's agents to get working on their moves.

Morgan is worth £30m so hold out for that Les, don't bend over & let Arsenal or Spuds rape you for less.
Top players will not come with all our best players gone, should have bought first.

Anything better than bottom three looks beyond us now.
Wow! There's a tale of woe indeed.

Has there been any official confirmation that JRod has not signed or will not sign a new contract? - I've not seen anything about it other than comments on here. Re Cork - the last I read was Rambo was taking a good hard look at him and others before making a decision to offer new contracts or not. If he decides he doesn't want them then I guess they will be sold quickly. According to a gooner site, Schneiderlin has said not interested in Arse n all and wants to go to the Shitespurt camp - not good!
Only rarely have Saints ever managed to buy in a superstar. We are at our best when having to buy young hopefuls and developing them to their top potential and buying fading stars and squeezing a couple more seasons out of them. We will never buy a Messi or a Ronaldo but we might, just might discover and develop one along the way.

Mid table safety for us in what is going to be a great season with another 2/3 young stars emerging from those being promoted to the senior level. Tadic will give us his all and Pelle will find the net. All in all we are in a good position considering what has just happened to the club. I feel there are a couple more to be purchased when Rambo feels the time is right. In Rambo and bro we trust!
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Hope Matty can step up, but it is not fair on him to have to fight a relegation battle in his first season. Four gone and four to go before the window closes means we will be lucky to even get this number of replacements in never mind the additional four quality players needed before the exodus. Sorry for RonKo who will not now be able to stop Morgan from going. Then Cork, Chambers & J-Rod to follow. Only Fonte, Cline & Victor's agents to get working on their moves. Morgan is worth £30m so hold out for that Les, don't bend over & let Arsenal or Spuds rape you for less. Top players will not come with all our best players gone, should have bought first. Anything better than bottom three looks beyond us now.[/p][/quote]Wow! There's a tale of woe indeed. Has there been any official confirmation that JRod has not signed or will not sign a new contract? - I've not seen anything about it other than comments on here. Re Cork - the last I read was Rambo was taking a good hard look at him and others before making a decision to offer new contracts or not. If he decides he doesn't want them then I guess they will be sold quickly. According to a gooner site, Schneiderlin has said not interested in Arse n all and wants to go to the Shitespurt camp - not good! Only rarely have Saints ever managed to buy in a superstar. We are at our best when having to buy young hopefuls and developing them to their top potential and buying fading stars and squeezing a couple more seasons out of them. We will never buy a Messi or a Ronaldo but we might, just might discover and develop one along the way. Mid table safety for us in what is going to be a great season with another 2/3 young stars emerging from those being promoted to the senior level. Tadic will give us his all and Pelle will find the net. All in all we are in a good position considering what has just happened to the club. I feel there are a couple more to be purchased when Rambo feels the time is right. In Rambo and bro we trust! jls217
  • Score: 6

10:06am Mon 21 Jul 14

St_Ron says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest.. St_Ron
  • Score: 1

10:13am Mon 21 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

jls217 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
Freddie and Les are not the ones to be making any sort of statements. They should be silent, doing their work in the background where nobody sees or hears them. The face of any club are the managers therefore the only people making regular statements are the Rambo brothers. Only on rare occasions should a chairman or anyone else in a club even be seen. You claim to be a football fan and you don't seem to have grasped anything really Samuel - you are a very disappointing amoeba indeed.
Yeah les and Ralph have been silently selling off the first team in the background.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]Freddie and Les are not the ones to be making any sort of statements. They should be silent, doing their work in the background where nobody sees or hears them. The face of any club are the managers therefore the only people making regular statements are the Rambo brothers. Only on rare occasions should a chairman or anyone else in a club even be seen. You claim to be a football fan and you don't seem to have grasped anything really Samuel - you are a very disappointing amoeba indeed.[/p][/quote]Yeah les and Ralph have been silently selling off the first team in the background. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 2

10:20am Mon 21 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
[quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -2

10:43am Mon 21 Jul 14

Dave Juson says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Hullo 2sheds.
The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives.
I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on.
It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Hullo 2sheds. The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives. I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on. It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not. Dave Juson
  • Score: 8

10:51am Mon 21 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

This concept of there is nothing that the board could have done about it is truly appalling. If my board ever said to me 'sorry seed, there was nothing we could have done about it' I would sack them and replace them with people who bloody could!

Please stop saying this could not have been avoided, it could, they just chose not to. All the evidence is out there, all the statements from managers, my neighbour, players etc from way before the end of the season, writ full and large for all to read. The board not only ignored it they also failed to plan for the consequences. Anyway, you keep trusting in this board until its too late, I'm off fishing. Ciao.
This concept of there is nothing that the board could have done about it is truly appalling. If my board ever said to me 'sorry seed, there was nothing we could have done about it' I would sack them and replace them with people who bloody could! Please stop saying this could not have been avoided, it could, they just chose not to. All the evidence is out there, all the statements from managers, my neighbour, players etc from way before the end of the season, writ full and large for all to read. The board not only ignored it they also failed to plan for the consequences. Anyway, you keep trusting in this board until its too late, I'm off fishing. Ciao. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 5

10:52am Mon 21 Jul 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Unfair to expect Matt Targett to just drop in to LB in place of Shaw and do the same job - very unfair.
He needs a more experienced LB ahead of him to take the pressure off him - the Premiership is the world's toughest league and a player can't hide.
Also unfair to ask Chambers and/or Clyne to play out of position indefinitely - a game or three perhaps but not all the time.

Where's our replacement for Shaw?
Does the club have anyone in mind?
What are all the agents and scouts we have out there all over Europe doing? There should be a stack of reports on over a dozen LBs on Les Reed's desk by now.....if not, why not?

Unfair to expect Ron Koeman to come in and work his magic when the transfer budget seems to be a percentage of what has been earned so far.
I say "seems to be" because I, or any other helmet on this board doesn't know the full story, (how can we?) but from where I am sitting there seems to be a great deal of lethargy in Saints's efforts to build the squad.
The silence from the board is deafening.

Unfair to Ron and his team.
Unfair to the young players in our squad.
Unfair to the fans.
Unfair to expect Matt Targett to just drop in to LB in place of Shaw and do the same job - very unfair. He needs a more experienced LB ahead of him to take the pressure off him - the Premiership is the world's toughest league and a player can't hide. Also unfair to ask Chambers and/or Clyne to play out of position indefinitely - a game or three perhaps but not all the time. Where's our replacement for Shaw? Does the club have anyone in mind? What are all the agents and scouts we have out there all over Europe doing? There should be a stack of reports on over a dozen LBs on Les Reed's desk by now.....if not, why not? Unfair to expect Ron Koeman to come in and work his magic when the transfer budget seems to be a percentage of what has been earned so far. I say "seems to be" because I, or any other helmet on this board doesn't know the full story, (how can we?) but from where I am sitting there seems to be a great deal of lethargy in Saints's efforts to build the squad. The silence from the board is deafening. Unfair to Ron and his team. Unfair to the young players in our squad. Unfair to the fans. Jan28th1984
  • Score: 6

10:54am Mon 21 Jul 14

Dave Juson says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
This concept of there is nothing that the board could have done about it is truly appalling. If my board ever said to me 'sorry seed, there was nothing we could have done about it' I would sack them and replace them with people who bloody could!

Please stop saying this could not have been avoided, it could, they just chose not to. All the evidence is out there, all the statements from managers, my neighbour, players etc from way before the end of the season, writ full and large for all to read. The board not only ignored it they also failed to plan for the consequences. Anyway, you keep trusting in this board until its too late, I'm off fishing. Ciao.
I'd advise you not to go overbiard, but it strikes me you already have.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: This concept of there is nothing that the board could have done about it is truly appalling. If my board ever said to me 'sorry seed, there was nothing we could have done about it' I would sack them and replace them with people who bloody could! Please stop saying this could not have been avoided, it could, they just chose not to. All the evidence is out there, all the statements from managers, my neighbour, players etc from way before the end of the season, writ full and large for all to read. The board not only ignored it they also failed to plan for the consequences. Anyway, you keep trusting in this board until its too late, I'm off fishing. Ciao.[/p][/quote]I'd advise you not to go overbiard, but it strikes me you already have. Dave Juson
  • Score: -2

10:54am Mon 21 Jul 14

Dave Juson says...

Dave Juson wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
This concept of there is nothing that the board could have done about it is truly appalling. If my board ever said to me 'sorry seed, there was nothing we could have done about it' I would sack them and replace them with people who bloody could!

Please stop saying this could not have been avoided, it could, they just chose not to. All the evidence is out there, all the statements from managers, my neighbour, players etc from way before the end of the season, writ full and large for all to read. The board not only ignored it they also failed to plan for the consequences. Anyway, you keep trusting in this board until its too late, I'm off fishing. Ciao.
I'd advise you not to go overbiard, but it strikes me you already have.
That should have been overboard, of course.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: This concept of there is nothing that the board could have done about it is truly appalling. If my board ever said to me 'sorry seed, there was nothing we could have done about it' I would sack them and replace them with people who bloody could! Please stop saying this could not have been avoided, it could, they just chose not to. All the evidence is out there, all the statements from managers, my neighbour, players etc from way before the end of the season, writ full and large for all to read. The board not only ignored it they also failed to plan for the consequences. Anyway, you keep trusting in this board until its too late, I'm off fishing. Ciao.[/p][/quote]I'd advise you not to go overbiard, but it strikes me you already have.[/p][/quote]That should have been overboard, of course. Dave Juson
  • Score: 1

10:58am Mon 21 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

10:58am Mon 21 Jul 14

noodlesnewman says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Hope Matty can step up, but it is not fair on him to have to fight a relegation battle in his first season.

Four gone and four to go before the window closes means we will be lucky to even get this number of replacements in never mind the additional four quality players needed before the exodus.

Sorry for RonKo who will not now be able to stop Morgan from going.
Then Cork, Chambers & J-Rod to follow. Only Fonte, Cline & Victor's agents to get working on their moves.

Morgan is worth £30m so hold out for that Les, don't bend over & let Arsenal or Spuds rape you for less.
Top players will not come with all our best players gone, should have bought first.

Anything better than bottom three looks beyond us now.
get on the anti depresents mate ! sounds like you need em !ease up !
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Hope Matty can step up, but it is not fair on him to have to fight a relegation battle in his first season. Four gone and four to go before the window closes means we will be lucky to even get this number of replacements in never mind the additional four quality players needed before the exodus. Sorry for RonKo who will not now be able to stop Morgan from going. Then Cork, Chambers & J-Rod to follow. Only Fonte, Cline & Victor's agents to get working on their moves. Morgan is worth £30m so hold out for that Les, don't bend over & let Arsenal or Spuds rape you for less. Top players will not come with all our best players gone, should have bought first. Anything better than bottom three looks beyond us now.[/p][/quote]get on the anti depresents mate ! sounds like you need em !ease up ! noodlesnewman
  • Score: 2

10:59am Mon 21 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Dave Juson wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Hullo 2sheds.
The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives.
I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on.
It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.
Been going since 1978. Missed less than 15 league games since SMS opened. Kept going though relegations, administration etc. Ive accepted my lot as a Saints fan knowing that only once in every few decades would a combination of events lead to 'our moment'. We had that in the early 80's and blew it. We've just done it again. Not sure I'll get another one in my life time.

If the Admiral, Captain, 1st Officer and several leading crew members had bailed out yes I would ask if the ship was sinking. If my captain lead from the front I would follow him just like I did for Pete Bethune when I crewed Earthrace on the round the world speed boat record.

Just because you think everything is hunky dory does not give you the right to insult posters who think its a bloody shambles.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Hullo 2sheds. The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives. I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on. It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.[/p][/quote]Been going since 1978. Missed less than 15 league games since SMS opened. Kept going though relegations, administration etc. Ive accepted my lot as a Saints fan knowing that only once in every few decades would a combination of events lead to 'our moment'. We had that in the early 80's and blew it. We've just done it again. Not sure I'll get another one in my life time. If the Admiral, Captain, 1st Officer and several leading crew members had bailed out yes I would ask if the ship was sinking. If my captain lead from the front I would follow him just like I did for Pete Bethune when I crewed Earthrace on the round the world speed boat record. Just because you think everything is hunky dory does not give you the right to insult posters who think its a bloody shambles. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 8

11:00am Mon 21 Jul 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

Dave Juson wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Hullo 2sheds.
The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives.
I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on.
It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.
I agree, Dave Juson!

I don't understand why these people aren't happy about selling big ego players that don't want to wear the shirt! It's a GOOD thing!

I think they work for the echo maybe? Winding up people just to get more comments and clicks on the website to make more money through ads. Either that or they are controlled more by the reptilian part of their brain and can't see further than their beaks.

I wonder if these so called saints fans will still be crying if we replace Lovren with Vlaar..!!

Two words... RONALD KOEMAN
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Hullo 2sheds. The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives. I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on. It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.[/p][/quote]I agree, Dave Juson! I don't understand why these people aren't happy about selling big ego players that don't want to wear the shirt! It's a GOOD thing! I think they work for the echo maybe? Winding up people just to get more comments and clicks on the website to make more money through ads. Either that or they are controlled more by the reptilian part of their brain and can't see further than their beaks. I wonder if these so called saints fans will still be crying if we replace Lovren with Vlaar..!! Two words... RONALD KOEMAN SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: -2

11:03am Mon 21 Jul 14

deepheat says...

Lovren only played 31 games for Saints and he didn't really do anything of note at the World Cup. Not all the players who are leaving Southampton will be a success, I think Luke Shaw has the best chance. With the rebuilding of the team I am expecting a hard fought season, maybe mid table with the hope of better success the following season.

As for Brenda at Liverpoooh, just look at the players that were good at their previous clubs but he turnred them into flops. Fabio Borini, Joe Allen, Luis Alberto, Iago Aspas, Oussama Assaidi and Nuri Sahin ( Who told the press: "thank God I have left Brendan Rodgers." ). That's over £43m worth of players that Brenda managed to turn into flops. I can never see Brenda being offered a job at Barcelona, Real Madrid or Bayern Munich. Ronald Koeman on the other hand (after a few successful season's with Saints) would have no problem.
Lovren only played 31 games for Saints and he didn't really do anything of note at the World Cup. Not all the players who are leaving Southampton will be a success, I think Luke Shaw has the best chance. With the rebuilding of the team I am expecting a hard fought season, maybe mid table with the hope of better success the following season. As for Brenda at Liverpoooh, just look at the players that were good at their previous clubs but he turnred them into flops. Fabio Borini, Joe Allen, Luis Alberto, Iago Aspas, Oussama Assaidi and Nuri Sahin ( Who told the press: "thank God I have left Brendan Rodgers." ). That's over £43m worth of players that Brenda managed to turn into flops. I can never see Brenda being offered a job at Barcelona, Real Madrid or Bayern Munich. Ronald Koeman on the other hand (after a few successful season's with Saints) would have no problem. deepheat
  • Score: 19

11:04am Mon 21 Jul 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Hullo 2sheds.
The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives.
I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on.
It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.
Been going since 1978. Missed less than 15 league games since SMS opened. Kept going though relegations, administration etc. Ive accepted my lot as a Saints fan knowing that only once in every few decades would a combination of events lead to 'our moment'. We had that in the early 80's and blew it. We've just done it again. Not sure I'll get another one in my life time.

If the Admiral, Captain, 1st Officer and several leading crew members had bailed out yes I would ask if the ship was sinking. If my captain lead from the front I would follow him just like I did for Pete Bethune when I crewed Earthrace on the round the world speed boat record.

Just because you think everything is hunky dory does not give you the right to insult posters who think its a bloody shambles.
LOL

No one really cares about what you think, seedhouse.

Selling players that don't want to play for your club is not a shambles. Replacing them with better players is not a shambles. Replacing Poch with RONALD KOEMAN is NOT a bloody shambles.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Hullo 2sheds. The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives. I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on. It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.[/p][/quote]Been going since 1978. Missed less than 15 league games since SMS opened. Kept going though relegations, administration etc. Ive accepted my lot as a Saints fan knowing that only once in every few decades would a combination of events lead to 'our moment'. We had that in the early 80's and blew it. We've just done it again. Not sure I'll get another one in my life time. If the Admiral, Captain, 1st Officer and several leading crew members had bailed out yes I would ask if the ship was sinking. If my captain lead from the front I would follow him just like I did for Pete Bethune when I crewed Earthrace on the round the world speed boat record. Just because you think everything is hunky dory does not give you the right to insult posters who think its a bloody shambles.[/p][/quote]LOL No one really cares about what you think, seedhouse. Selling players that don't want to play for your club is not a shambles. Replacing them with better players is not a shambles. Replacing Poch with RONALD KOEMAN is NOT a bloody shambles. SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 8

11:14am Mon 21 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
This concept of there is nothing that the board could have done about it is truly appalling. If my board ever said to me 'sorry seed, there was nothing we could have done about it' I would sack them and replace them with people who bloody could!

Please stop saying this could not have been avoided, it could, they just chose not to. All the evidence is out there, all the statements from managers, my neighbour, players etc from way before the end of the season, writ full and large for all to read. The board not only ignored it they also failed to plan for the consequences. Anyway, you keep trusting in this board until its too late, I'm off fishing. Ciao.
I can appreciate where you are coming from, but as one cog in a massive wheel, in a big engine, I haven't got much ability to affect the workings as a whole. Like it or not the management have chosen the route, we just have to follow and hope that they will get to their intended destination to the benefit of all of us.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: This concept of there is nothing that the board could have done about it is truly appalling. If my board ever said to me 'sorry seed, there was nothing we could have done about it' I would sack them and replace them with people who bloody could! Please stop saying this could not have been avoided, it could, they just chose not to. All the evidence is out there, all the statements from managers, my neighbour, players etc from way before the end of the season, writ full and large for all to read. The board not only ignored it they also failed to plan for the consequences. Anyway, you keep trusting in this board until its too late, I'm off fishing. Ciao.[/p][/quote]I can appreciate where you are coming from, but as one cog in a massive wheel, in a big engine, I haven't got much ability to affect the workings as a whole. Like it or not the management have chosen the route, we just have to follow and hope that they will get to their intended destination to the benefit of all of us. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

11:20am Mon 21 Jul 14

Chipmonk1 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Hullo 2sheds.
The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives.
I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on.
It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.
Been going since 1978. Missed less than 15 league games since SMS opened. Kept going though relegations, administration etc. Ive accepted my lot as a Saints fan knowing that only once in every few decades would a combination of events lead to 'our moment'. We had that in the early 80's and blew it. We've just done it again. Not sure I'll get another one in my life time.

If the Admiral, Captain, 1st Officer and several leading crew members had bailed out yes I would ask if the ship was sinking. If my captain lead from the front I would follow him just like I did for Pete Bethune when I crewed Earthrace on the round the world speed boat record.

Just because you think everything is hunky dory does not give you the right to insult posters who think its a bloody shambles.
As much as I disagree (currently) with much of what seed has to say, I don't think anyone should question his love/support of Saints. Unlike Sammy 2 sods.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Hullo 2sheds. The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives. I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on. It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.[/p][/quote]Been going since 1978. Missed less than 15 league games since SMS opened. Kept going though relegations, administration etc. Ive accepted my lot as a Saints fan knowing that only once in every few decades would a combination of events lead to 'our moment'. We had that in the early 80's and blew it. We've just done it again. Not sure I'll get another one in my life time. If the Admiral, Captain, 1st Officer and several leading crew members had bailed out yes I would ask if the ship was sinking. If my captain lead from the front I would follow him just like I did for Pete Bethune when I crewed Earthrace on the round the world speed boat record. Just because you think everything is hunky dory does not give you the right to insult posters who think its a bloody shambles.[/p][/quote]As much as I disagree (currently) with much of what seed has to say, I don't think anyone should question his love/support of Saints. Unlike Sammy 2 sods. Chipmonk1
  • Score: -2

11:21am Mon 21 Jul 14

Dave Juson says...

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Hullo 2sheds.
The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives.
I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on.
It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.
Been going since 1978. Missed less than 15 league games since SMS opened. Kept going though relegations, administration etc. Ive accepted my lot as a Saints fan knowing that only once in every few decades would a combination of events lead to 'our moment'. We had that in the early 80's and blew it. We've just done it again. Not sure I'll get another one in my life time.

If the Admiral, Captain, 1st Officer and several leading crew members had bailed out yes I would ask if the ship was sinking. If my captain lead from the front I would follow him just like I did for Pete Bethune when I crewed Earthrace on the round the world speed boat record.

Just because you think everything is hunky dory does not give you the right to insult posters who think its a bloody shambles.
LOL

No one really cares about what you think, seedhouse.

Selling players that don't want to play for your club is not a shambles. Replacing them with better players is not a shambles. Replacing Poch with RONALD KOEMAN is NOT a bloody shambles.
Seed, I haven't even suggested that everything is "honky dory", I have no idea what is going on at board level or anywhare else at the Club. My point is that neither have you. Only you are panicking and I am not.
I was not insulting you so much as observing that you are like a cliche maiden aunt standing on a chair in a kitchen screaming because she has just remembered that mice sometimes appear in them.
If the worst does happen you are going to go completely to pieces aren't you?
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Hullo 2sheds. The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives. I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on. It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.[/p][/quote]Been going since 1978. Missed less than 15 league games since SMS opened. Kept going though relegations, administration etc. Ive accepted my lot as a Saints fan knowing that only once in every few decades would a combination of events lead to 'our moment'. We had that in the early 80's and blew it. We've just done it again. Not sure I'll get another one in my life time. If the Admiral, Captain, 1st Officer and several leading crew members had bailed out yes I would ask if the ship was sinking. If my captain lead from the front I would follow him just like I did for Pete Bethune when I crewed Earthrace on the round the world speed boat record. Just because you think everything is hunky dory does not give you the right to insult posters who think its a bloody shambles.[/p][/quote]LOL No one really cares about what you think, seedhouse. Selling players that don't want to play for your club is not a shambles. Replacing them with better players is not a shambles. Replacing Poch with RONALD KOEMAN is NOT a bloody shambles.[/p][/quote]Seed, I haven't even suggested that everything is "honky dory", I have no idea what is going on at board level or anywhare else at the Club. My point is that neither have you. Only you are panicking and I am not. I was not insulting you so much as observing that you are like a cliche maiden aunt standing on a chair in a kitchen screaming because she has just remembered that mice sometimes appear in them. If the worst does happen you are going to go completely to pieces aren't you? Dave Juson
  • Score: -3

11:26am Mon 21 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Dave Juson wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Hullo 2sheds.
The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives.
I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on.
It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.
I do tend to agree with you, Dave. However, I must correct you on one major thing. Seed might be having a daily negative rant right now but he's earned that right. He's a fan of many years, a ST holder and regularly goes to away games. Also, while I may not agree 100% with his current rants, I do think he has a point about the way the Board are currently doing their business.

I'm not sure they could do much about keeping hold of players who want out, and I don't think the tragedy of their leaving is entirely the fault of the Board. Where I do think Seed and others have a point is in the way the Board have handled it all. The announcement in the Spring that the £27m debt needed sorting, as though it was a huge problem, was like sticking a 'PLAYERS FOR SALE' sign up. Then, not announcing that no transfer talk would happen until after the WC and until a new manager was in place seems rather odd to me.

As for getting players in, I don't think things are much different to the slow way that NC dealt with incoming players. But, the current need for new faces is somewhat more pressing than at any point in the past 5 years, so I hope the board are on top of things in a way that we all hope.

What would help now is for an official statement from Katharina; one that is accurate, clear and honest and would give everyone from fans to current staff to potential new signings a genuine belief that things are moving in the right direction.

As for Sammy2logins, he's a Melbourne-based skate with an extraordinary personality disorder. To mention him in the same breath as Seed, does the latter a huge disservice.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Hullo 2sheds. The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives. I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on. It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.[/p][/quote]I do tend to agree with you, Dave. However, I must correct you on one major thing. Seed might be having a daily negative rant right now but he's earned that right. He's a fan of many years, a ST holder and regularly goes to away games. Also, while I may not agree 100% with his current rants, I do think he has a point about the way the Board are currently doing their business. I'm not sure they could do much about keeping hold of players who want out, and I don't think the tragedy of their leaving is entirely the fault of the Board. Where I do think Seed and others have a point is in the way the Board have handled it all. The announcement in the Spring that the £27m debt needed sorting, as though it was a huge problem, was like sticking a 'PLAYERS FOR SALE' sign up. Then, not announcing that no transfer talk would happen until after the WC and until a new manager was in place seems rather odd to me. As for getting players in, I don't think things are much different to the slow way that NC dealt with incoming players. But, the current need for new faces is somewhat more pressing than at any point in the past 5 years, so I hope the board are on top of things in a way that we all hope. What would help now is for an official statement from Katharina; one that is accurate, clear and honest and would give everyone from fans to current staff to potential new signings a genuine belief that things are moving in the right direction. As for Sammy2logins, he's a Melbourne-based skate with an extraordinary personality disorder. To mention him in the same breath as Seed, does the latter a huge disservice. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 6

11:40am Mon 21 Jul 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down.

Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m.

Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January.

Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these.

If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago.

So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with.

I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing.

It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team.

There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying.
They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce.

The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !!

Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club.

I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON !
Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down. Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m. Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January. Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these. If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago. So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with. I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing. It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team. There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying. They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce. The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !! Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club. I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON ! NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 6

11:42am Mon 21 Jul 14

Invidia says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
This concept of there is nothing that the board could have done about it is truly appalling. If my board ever said to me 'sorry seed, there was nothing we could have done about it' I would sack them and replace them with people who bloody could!

Please stop saying this could not have been avoided, it could, they just chose not to. All the evidence is out there, all the statements from managers, my neighbour, players etc from way before the end of the season, writ full and large for all to read. The board not only ignored it they also failed to plan for the consequences. Anyway, you keep trusting in this board until its too late, I'm off fishing. Ciao.
I can appreciate where you are coming from, but as one cog in a massive wheel, in a big engine, I haven't got much ability to affect the workings as a whole. Like it or not the management have chosen the route, we just have to follow and hope that they will get to their intended destination to the benefit of all of us.
Hmm the "Costa Concordia" comes to mind!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: This concept of there is nothing that the board could have done about it is truly appalling. If my board ever said to me 'sorry seed, there was nothing we could have done about it' I would sack them and replace them with people who bloody could! Please stop saying this could not have been avoided, it could, they just chose not to. All the evidence is out there, all the statements from managers, my neighbour, players etc from way before the end of the season, writ full and large for all to read. The board not only ignored it they also failed to plan for the consequences. Anyway, you keep trusting in this board until its too late, I'm off fishing. Ciao.[/p][/quote]I can appreciate where you are coming from, but as one cog in a massive wheel, in a big engine, I haven't got much ability to affect the workings as a whole. Like it or not the management have chosen the route, we just have to follow and hope that they will get to their intended destination to the benefit of all of us.[/p][/quote]Hmm the "Costa Concordia" comes to mind! Invidia
  • Score: 10

11:47am Mon 21 Jul 14

Dave Juson says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Hullo 2sheds.
The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives.
I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on.
It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.
I do tend to agree with you, Dave. However, I must correct you on one major thing. Seed might be having a daily negative rant right now but he's earned that right. He's a fan of many years, a ST holder and regularly goes to away games. Also, while I may not agree 100% with his current rants, I do think he has a point about the way the Board are currently doing their business.

I'm not sure they could do much about keeping hold of players who want out, and I don't think the tragedy of their leaving is entirely the fault of the Board. Where I do think Seed and others have a point is in the way the Board have handled it all. The announcement in the Spring that the £27m debt needed sorting, as though it was a huge problem, was like sticking a 'PLAYERS FOR SALE' sign up. Then, not announcing that no transfer talk would happen until after the WC and until a new manager was in place seems rather odd to me.

As for getting players in, I don't think things are much different to the slow way that NC dealt with incoming players. But, the current need for new faces is somewhat more pressing than at any point in the past 5 years, so I hope the board are on top of things in a way that we all hope.

What would help now is for an official statement from Katharina; one that is accurate, clear and honest and would give everyone from fans to current staff to potential new signings a genuine belief that things are moving in the right direction.

As for Sammy2logins, he's a Melbourne-based skate with an extraordinary personality disorder. To mention him in the same breath as Seed, does the latter a huge disservice.
Thank you for being so polite Strasburg Saint, but while Seedhouse is, of course, entitled to an opinion, has not earned the right to rattle off badly informed judgements. Neither has anyone else.
That includes the many “Saints legends” whose views are given such prominence on this website.
If you want an opinion to be taken seriously you need: a What; Why; When; How; Where and a Who. The negative posters on here, such as Seedhouse, are seriously short on the whats, hows and whys.

It is not good enough. Nor is it clever. It is turning what the Echo (which glories in the ignorance of its readers, especially of the readers who support the Saints) would have us believe is a crisis into a disaster before establishing whether there is a crisis or not.

I would further add that, if and when a crisis really does develop, we keep our heads and show solidarity with the Club, rather than go looking for scapegoats. The last time that happened we ended up with Michael Wild as chairman and a slippery slope became a cliff.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Hullo 2sheds. The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives. I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on. It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.[/p][/quote]I do tend to agree with you, Dave. However, I must correct you on one major thing. Seed might be having a daily negative rant right now but he's earned that right. He's a fan of many years, a ST holder and regularly goes to away games. Also, while I may not agree 100% with his current rants, I do think he has a point about the way the Board are currently doing their business. I'm not sure they could do much about keeping hold of players who want out, and I don't think the tragedy of their leaving is entirely the fault of the Board. Where I do think Seed and others have a point is in the way the Board have handled it all. The announcement in the Spring that the £27m debt needed sorting, as though it was a huge problem, was like sticking a 'PLAYERS FOR SALE' sign up. Then, not announcing that no transfer talk would happen until after the WC and until a new manager was in place seems rather odd to me. As for getting players in, I don't think things are much different to the slow way that NC dealt with incoming players. But, the current need for new faces is somewhat more pressing than at any point in the past 5 years, so I hope the board are on top of things in a way that we all hope. What would help now is for an official statement from Katharina; one that is accurate, clear and honest and would give everyone from fans to current staff to potential new signings a genuine belief that things are moving in the right direction. As for Sammy2logins, he's a Melbourne-based skate with an extraordinary personality disorder. To mention him in the same breath as Seed, does the latter a huge disservice.[/p][/quote]Thank you for being so polite Strasburg Saint, but while Seedhouse is, of course, entitled to an opinion, has not earned the right to rattle off badly informed judgements. Neither has anyone else. That includes the many “Saints legends” whose views are given such prominence on this website. If you want an opinion to be taken seriously you need: a What; Why; When; How; Where and a Who. The negative posters on here, such as Seedhouse, are seriously short on the whats, hows and whys. It is not good enough. Nor is it clever. It is turning what the Echo (which glories in the ignorance of its readers, especially of the readers who support the Saints) would have us believe is a crisis into a disaster before establishing whether there is a crisis or not. I would further add that, if and when a crisis really does develop, we keep our heads and show solidarity with the Club, rather than go looking for scapegoats. The last time that happened we ended up with Michael Wild as chairman and a slippery slope became a cliff. Dave Juson
  • Score: 0

11:48am Mon 21 Jul 14

damoose says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

This concept of there is nothing that the board could have done about it is truly appalling. If my board ever said to me 'sorry seed, there was nothing we could have done about it' I would sack them and replace them with people who bloody could!

Please stop saying this could not have been avoided, it could, they just chose not to. All the evidence is out there, all the statements from managers, my neighbour, players etc from way before the end of the season, writ full and large for all to read. The board not only ignored it they also failed to plan for the consequences. Anyway, you keep trusting in this board until its too late, I'm off fishing. Ciao.

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Even tho I`m optimistic about this season and I think we will do well if we press-high,it does all seem ,it would of been alot easier to just have given Pooch the extra 40 mill plus that he wanted,now we have to go and replace those traitors and it will probably cost us more....but I`m all in for the organic approach
Seedhouse the Unrepentant says... This concept of there is nothing that the board could have done about it is truly appalling. If my board ever said to me 'sorry seed, there was nothing we could have done about it' I would sack them and replace them with people who bloody could! Please stop saying this could not have been avoided, it could, they just chose not to. All the evidence is out there, all the statements from managers, my neighbour, players etc from way before the end of the season, writ full and large for all to read. The board not only ignored it they also failed to plan for the consequences. Anyway, you keep trusting in this board until its too late, I'm off fishing. Ciao. -------------------- ----- Even tho I`m optimistic about this season and I think we will do well if we press-high,it does all seem ,it would of been alot easier to just have given Pooch the extra 40 mill plus that he wanted,now we have to go and replace those traitors and it will probably cost us more....but I`m all in for the organic approach damoose
  • Score: 1

11:50am Mon 21 Jul 14

george chivers says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back.

its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money.

the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief.
Targett had always been spoken of very highly. My slight concern was when Luke was injured last season Clyne was used at LB and Chambers at RB rather than giving Targett a run out. He didn't even get the cups when we fielded weaker teams. Hope we aren't rushing him.

I have noticed a shift of emphasis by the happy clappers. A while ago it was about how the replacements would be better and we would push on from 8th. There is now posts from the same people saying we won't be in a relegation battle.

I think we can all agree enough is enough now. If this board goes on to sell Morgan and Jay Rod then they should be tarred, feathered and hung by their testicles from the bargate.
Free. A pillow case full of discarded feathers. Contact Osprey on this thread. Buyer collects. No skunts.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back. its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money. the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief.[/p][/quote]Targett had always been spoken of very highly. My slight concern was when Luke was injured last season Clyne was used at LB and Chambers at RB rather than giving Targett a run out. He didn't even get the cups when we fielded weaker teams. Hope we aren't rushing him. I have noticed a shift of emphasis by the happy clappers. A while ago it was about how the replacements would be better and we would push on from 8th. There is now posts from the same people saying we won't be in a relegation battle. I think we can all agree enough is enough now. If this board goes on to sell Morgan and Jay Rod then they should be tarred, feathered and hung by their testicles from the bargate.[/p][/quote]Free. A pillow case full of discarded feathers. Contact Osprey on this thread. Buyer collects. No skunts. george chivers
  • Score: 9

11:51am Mon 21 Jul 14

Knackers says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.
No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.[/p][/quote]No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing. Knackers
  • Score: 8

11:56am Mon 21 Jul 14

Tony in Liberia says...

I love Seedhouse. I pretty much completely disagree with him, but I love his long-term dedication to Saints and I respect his current negative feelings, based as their are on loving the club. Sammy 2 brains, however, is a complete kn0b, as we all know.

The fact is always going to remain that no young lads, growing up and kicking a football around in the park, are going to grow up dreaming of playing for Saints; if they are good enough, they will always want to move on to the 'big 6'. That's the way football is set up at the moment; we cannot financially compete with them, and cannot grow as big. It sucks, but it's life. As an old-fashioned, die-hard socialist I blame the capitalist market economy that allows a few rich people to manipulate and twist the system so that it meets their needs, rather than the millions of the rest of us who do not have that power, but - unless we finally do start that revolution - we're stuck with it.

That's why, although I also wish we hadn't just dismantled one of our best ever teams, I focus on the fact that what I love is watching Saints, regardless of how well we are doing.

Oh, and when I say I love Seedhouse, I mean that in a manly, John Wayney, respectful buddies kind of way, not in any other kind of way. I mean, he's probably very nice, and I would assume well-groomed and presentable, but we've never actually met. Conversely, I would assume that Sammy 2 brain's gut is the size of Man Utd's overdraft, and his face as attractive as a season ticket to Nottarf Krap.
I love Seedhouse. I pretty much completely disagree with him, but I love his long-term dedication to Saints and I respect his current negative feelings, based as their are on loving the club. Sammy 2 brains, however, is a complete kn0b, as we all know. The fact is always going to remain that no young lads, growing up and kicking a football around in the park, are going to grow up dreaming of playing for Saints; if they are good enough, they will always want to move on to the 'big 6'. That's the way football is set up at the moment; we cannot financially compete with them, and cannot grow as big. It sucks, but it's life. As an old-fashioned, die-hard socialist I blame the capitalist market economy that allows a few rich people to manipulate and twist the system so that it meets their needs, rather than the millions of the rest of us who do not have that power, but - unless we finally do start that revolution - we're stuck with it. That's why, although I also wish we hadn't just dismantled one of our best ever teams, I focus on the fact that what I love is watching Saints, regardless of how well we are doing. Oh, and when I say I love Seedhouse, I mean that in a manly, John Wayney, respectful buddies kind of way, not in any other kind of way. I mean, he's probably very nice, and I would assume well-groomed and presentable, but we've never actually met. Conversely, I would assume that Sammy 2 brain's gut is the size of Man Utd's overdraft, and his face as attractive as a season ticket to Nottarf Krap. Tony in Liberia
  • Score: 6

12:00pm Mon 21 Jul 14

jasons odd says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down.

Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m.

Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January.

Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these.

If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago.

So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with.

I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing.

It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team.

There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying.
They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce.

The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !!

Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club.

I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON !
Why do you want a statement ??

It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer .
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down. Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m. Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January. Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these. If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago. So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with. I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing. It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team. There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying. They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce. The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !! Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club. I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON ![/p][/quote]Why do you want a statement ?? It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer . jasons odd
  • Score: 6

12:02pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Dave Juson says...

Knackers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.
No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.
You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set.
If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.
[quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.[/p][/quote]No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.[/p][/quote]You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set. If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people. Dave Juson
  • Score: 2

12:17pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Knackers says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Hullo 2sheds.
The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives.
I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on.
It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.
I do tend to agree with you, Dave. However, I must correct you on one major thing. Seed might be having a daily negative rant right now but he's earned that right. He's a fan of many years, a ST holder and regularly goes to away games. Also, while I may not agree 100% with his current rants, I do think he has a point about the way the Board are currently doing their business.

I'm not sure they could do much about keeping hold of players who want out, and I don't think the tragedy of their leaving is entirely the fault of the Board. Where I do think Seed and others have a point is in the way the Board have handled it all. The announcement in the Spring that the £27m debt needed sorting, as though it was a huge problem, was like sticking a 'PLAYERS FOR SALE' sign up. Then, not announcing that no transfer talk would happen until after the WC and until a new manager was in place seems rather odd to me.

As for getting players in, I don't think things are much different to the slow way that NC dealt with incoming players. But, the current need for new faces is somewhat more pressing than at any point in the past 5 years, so I hope the board are on top of things in a way that we all hope.

What would help now is for an official statement from Katharina; one that is accurate, clear and honest and would give everyone from fans to current staff to potential new signings a genuine belief that things are moving in the right direction.

As for Sammy2logins, he's a Melbourne-based skate with an extraordinary personality disorder. To mention him in the same breath as Seed, does the latter a huge disservice.
Strasbourg Saint welcome!! How's Strasbourg? I like seed too,he's the best.how much do you like him? A lot judging by your post.got your hand in his pocket again? When you write things like that it gets a bit weird for the rest of us.we are embarrassed for you.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Hullo 2sheds. The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives. I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on. It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.[/p][/quote]I do tend to agree with you, Dave. However, I must correct you on one major thing. Seed might be having a daily negative rant right now but he's earned that right. He's a fan of many years, a ST holder and regularly goes to away games. Also, while I may not agree 100% with his current rants, I do think he has a point about the way the Board are currently doing their business. I'm not sure they could do much about keeping hold of players who want out, and I don't think the tragedy of their leaving is entirely the fault of the Board. Where I do think Seed and others have a point is in the way the Board have handled it all. The announcement in the Spring that the £27m debt needed sorting, as though it was a huge problem, was like sticking a 'PLAYERS FOR SALE' sign up. Then, not announcing that no transfer talk would happen until after the WC and until a new manager was in place seems rather odd to me. As for getting players in, I don't think things are much different to the slow way that NC dealt with incoming players. But, the current need for new faces is somewhat more pressing than at any point in the past 5 years, so I hope the board are on top of things in a way that we all hope. What would help now is for an official statement from Katharina; one that is accurate, clear and honest and would give everyone from fans to current staff to potential new signings a genuine belief that things are moving in the right direction. As for Sammy2logins, he's a Melbourne-based skate with an extraordinary personality disorder. To mention him in the same breath as Seed, does the latter a huge disservice.[/p][/quote]Strasbourg Saint welcome!! How's Strasbourg? I like seed too,he's the best.how much do you like him? A lot judging by your post.got your hand in his pocket again? When you write things like that it gets a bit weird for the rest of us.we are embarrassed for you. Knackers
  • Score: 1

12:21pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Knackers says...

Dave Juson wrote:
Knackers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.
No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.
You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set.
If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.
Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.[/p][/quote]No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.[/p][/quote]You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set. If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.[/p][/quote]Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed Knackers
  • Score: 5

12:25pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Knackers wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Hullo 2sheds.
The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives.
I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on.
It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.
I do tend to agree with you, Dave. However, I must correct you on one major thing. Seed might be having a daily negative rant right now but he's earned that right. He's a fan of many years, a ST holder and regularly goes to away games. Also, while I may not agree 100% with his current rants, I do think he has a point about the way the Board are currently doing their business.

I'm not sure they could do much about keeping hold of players who want out, and I don't think the tragedy of their leaving is entirely the fault of the Board. Where I do think Seed and others have a point is in the way the Board have handled it all. The announcement in the Spring that the £27m debt needed sorting, as though it was a huge problem, was like sticking a 'PLAYERS FOR SALE' sign up. Then, not announcing that no transfer talk would happen until after the WC and until a new manager was in place seems rather odd to me.

As for getting players in, I don't think things are much different to the slow way that NC dealt with incoming players. But, the current need for new faces is somewhat more pressing than at any point in the past 5 years, so I hope the board are on top of things in a way that we all hope.

What would help now is for an official statement from Katharina; one that is accurate, clear and honest and would give everyone from fans to current staff to potential new signings a genuine belief that things are moving in the right direction.

As for Sammy2logins, he's a Melbourne-based skate with an extraordinary personality disorder. To mention him in the same breath as Seed, does the latter a huge disservice.
Strasbourg Saint welcome!! How's Strasbourg? I like seed too,he's the best.how much do you like him? A lot judging by your post.got your hand in his pocket again? When you write things like that it gets a bit weird for the rest of us.we are embarrassed for you.
Yeah really weird.i thought he was talking about Nelson Mandela or someone.
[quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Hullo 2sheds. The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives. I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on. It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.[/p][/quote]I do tend to agree with you, Dave. However, I must correct you on one major thing. Seed might be having a daily negative rant right now but he's earned that right. He's a fan of many years, a ST holder and regularly goes to away games. Also, while I may not agree 100% with his current rants, I do think he has a point about the way the Board are currently doing their business. I'm not sure they could do much about keeping hold of players who want out, and I don't think the tragedy of their leaving is entirely the fault of the Board. Where I do think Seed and others have a point is in the way the Board have handled it all. The announcement in the Spring that the £27m debt needed sorting, as though it was a huge problem, was like sticking a 'PLAYERS FOR SALE' sign up. Then, not announcing that no transfer talk would happen until after the WC and until a new manager was in place seems rather odd to me. As for getting players in, I don't think things are much different to the slow way that NC dealt with incoming players. But, the current need for new faces is somewhat more pressing than at any point in the past 5 years, so I hope the board are on top of things in a way that we all hope. What would help now is for an official statement from Katharina; one that is accurate, clear and honest and would give everyone from fans to current staff to potential new signings a genuine belief that things are moving in the right direction. As for Sammy2logins, he's a Melbourne-based skate with an extraordinary personality disorder. To mention him in the same breath as Seed, does the latter a huge disservice.[/p][/quote]Strasbourg Saint welcome!! How's Strasbourg? I like seed too,he's the best.how much do you like him? A lot judging by your post.got your hand in his pocket again? When you write things like that it gets a bit weird for the rest of us.we are embarrassed for you.[/p][/quote]Yeah really weird.i thought he was talking about Nelson Mandela or someone. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 0

12:28pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Knackers wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Knackers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.
No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.
You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set.
If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.
Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed
Check out kats track record in dealing with her dads "projects".specifica
lly look at the engineering company Marcus saved that had 25 apprentices.have a look how she handled that.changevthe name and it could be saints.
[quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.[/p][/quote]No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.[/p][/quote]You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set. If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.[/p][/quote]Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed[/p][/quote]Check out kats track record in dealing with her dads "projects".specifica lly look at the engineering company Marcus saved that had 25 apprentices.have a look how she handled that.changevthe name and it could be saints. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 0

12:30pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

Knackers wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Hullo 2sheds.
The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives.
I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on.
It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.
I do tend to agree with you, Dave. However, I must correct you on one major thing. Seed might be having a daily negative rant right now but he's earned that right. He's a fan of many years, a ST holder and regularly goes to away games. Also, while I may not agree 100% with his current rants, I do think he has a point about the way the Board are currently doing their business.

I'm not sure they could do much about keeping hold of players who want out, and I don't think the tragedy of their leaving is entirely the fault of the Board. Where I do think Seed and others have a point is in the way the Board have handled it all. The announcement in the Spring that the £27m debt needed sorting, as though it was a huge problem, was like sticking a 'PLAYERS FOR SALE' sign up. Then, not announcing that no transfer talk would happen until after the WC and until a new manager was in place seems rather odd to me.

As for getting players in, I don't think things are much different to the slow way that NC dealt with incoming players. But, the current need for new faces is somewhat more pressing than at any point in the past 5 years, so I hope the board are on top of things in a way that we all hope.

What would help now is for an official statement from Katharina; one that is accurate, clear and honest and would give everyone from fans to current staff to potential new signings a genuine belief that things are moving in the right direction.

As for Sammy2logins, he's a Melbourne-based skate with an extraordinary personality disorder. To mention him in the same breath as Seed, does the latter a huge disservice.
Strasbourg Saint welcome!! How's Strasbourg? I like seed too,he's the best.how much do you like him? A lot judging by your post.got your hand in his pocket again? When you write things like that it gets a bit weird for the rest of us.we are embarrassed for you.
God, you have a very sick mind. I feel very sad for you and embarrassed for your parents.
[quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Hullo 2sheds. The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives. I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on. It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.[/p][/quote]I do tend to agree with you, Dave. However, I must correct you on one major thing. Seed might be having a daily negative rant right now but he's earned that right. He's a fan of many years, a ST holder and regularly goes to away games. Also, while I may not agree 100% with his current rants, I do think he has a point about the way the Board are currently doing their business. I'm not sure they could do much about keeping hold of players who want out, and I don't think the tragedy of their leaving is entirely the fault of the Board. Where I do think Seed and others have a point is in the way the Board have handled it all. The announcement in the Spring that the £27m debt needed sorting, as though it was a huge problem, was like sticking a 'PLAYERS FOR SALE' sign up. Then, not announcing that no transfer talk would happen until after the WC and until a new manager was in place seems rather odd to me. As for getting players in, I don't think things are much different to the slow way that NC dealt with incoming players. But, the current need for new faces is somewhat more pressing than at any point in the past 5 years, so I hope the board are on top of things in a way that we all hope. What would help now is for an official statement from Katharina; one that is accurate, clear and honest and would give everyone from fans to current staff to potential new signings a genuine belief that things are moving in the right direction. As for Sammy2logins, he's a Melbourne-based skate with an extraordinary personality disorder. To mention him in the same breath as Seed, does the latter a huge disservice.[/p][/quote]Strasbourg Saint welcome!! How's Strasbourg? I like seed too,he's the best.how much do you like him? A lot judging by your post.got your hand in his pocket again? When you write things like that it gets a bit weird for the rest of us.we are embarrassed for you.[/p][/quote]God, you have a very sick mind. I feel very sad for you and embarrassed for your parents. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

12:30pm Mon 21 Jul 14

sarfhamton says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Hope Matty can step up, but it is not fair on him to have to fight a relegation battle in his first season.

Four gone and four to go before the window closes means we will be lucky to even get this number of replacements in never mind the additional four quality players needed before the exodus.

Sorry for RonKo who will not now be able to stop Morgan from going.
Then Cork, Chambers & J-Rod to follow. Only Fonte, Cline & Victor's agents to get working on their moves.

Morgan is worth £30m so hold out for that Les, don't bend over & let Arsenal or Spuds rape you for less.
Top players will not come with all our best players gone, should have bought first.

Anything better than bottom three looks beyond us now.
Why use language of sexual violence to make your point?
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Hope Matty can step up, but it is not fair on him to have to fight a relegation battle in his first season. Four gone and four to go before the window closes means we will be lucky to even get this number of replacements in never mind the additional four quality players needed before the exodus. Sorry for RonKo who will not now be able to stop Morgan from going. Then Cork, Chambers & J-Rod to follow. Only Fonte, Cline & Victor's agents to get working on their moves. Morgan is worth £30m so hold out for that Les, don't bend over & let Arsenal or Spuds rape you for less. Top players will not come with all our best players gone, should have bought first. Anything better than bottom three looks beyond us now.[/p][/quote]Why use language of sexual violence to make your point? sarfhamton
  • Score: -2

12:32pm Mon 21 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

jasons odd wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down.

Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m.

Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January.

Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these.

If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago.

So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with.

I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing.

It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team.

There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying.
They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce.

The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !!

Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club.

I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON !
Why do you want a statement ??

It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer .
Careful what you say.Knackers, someone will accuse you of being a ****, which is what has happened to me on the other section.
[quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down. Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m. Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January. Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these. If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago. So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with. I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing. It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team. There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying. They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce. The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !! Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club. I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON ![/p][/quote]Why do you want a statement ?? It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer .[/p][/quote]Careful what you say.Knackers, someone will accuse you of being a ****, which is what has happened to me on the other section. echo1948
  • Score: -1

12:34pm Mon 21 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Knackers wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Knackers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.
No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.
You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set.
If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.
Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed
No doubt you predict a lot of points failures and no sign of getting on the right track with signal success, or are you sat on the platform for a few late arrivals, or are we just going to hit the buffers. At this junction I have no idea what direction we are going to take. it is difficult to tell without a timetable, but get a few more training and it will be just the ticket.
[quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.[/p][/quote]No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.[/p][/quote]You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set. If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.[/p][/quote]Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed[/p][/quote]No doubt you predict a lot of points failures and no sign of getting on the right track with signal success, or are you sat on the platform for a few late arrivals, or are we just going to hit the buffers. At this junction I have no idea what direction we are going to take. it is difficult to tell without a timetable, but get a few more training and it will be just the ticket. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

12:35pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Confucious says...

It seems very clear that some are unhappy that others are happy, whilst no doubt being happy that some are unhappy. On the other hand it's equally obvious that some are happy that others are happy, though undoubtedly also unhappy that some are unhappy. However, I also think a few unhappy people are actually made happier by contemplating the greater unhappiness of some others and indeed some are made unhappy by contemplating the happiness of others.

Unfortunately nowadays the search for happiness is one of the chief causes of unhappiness - and indeed there are some people who should be unhappy but just can't stop themselves from being happy.

Of course we need to bear in mind that there are some nice people who can only be happy when they make others happy - whilst there are others (eg the WUMs) who can only be happy when they make other people unhappy.

My point is that this happiness/unhappines
s thing is, somewhat unhappily, actually very complicated - though, happily, as a result I've actually lost my thread now and can't remember what people were saying they were happy or unhappy about in the first place.
It seems very clear that some are unhappy that others are happy, whilst no doubt being happy that some are unhappy. On the other hand it's equally obvious that some are happy that others are happy, though undoubtedly also unhappy that some are unhappy. However, I also think a few unhappy people are actually made happier by contemplating the greater unhappiness of some others and indeed some are made unhappy by contemplating the happiness of others. Unfortunately nowadays the search for happiness is one of the chief causes of unhappiness - and indeed there are some people who should be unhappy but just can't stop themselves from being happy. Of course we need to bear in mind that there are some nice people who can only be happy when they make others happy - whilst there are others (eg the WUMs) who can only be happy when they make other people unhappy. My point is that this happiness/unhappines s thing is, somewhat unhappily, actually very complicated - though, happily, as a result I've actually lost my thread now and can't remember what people were saying they were happy or unhappy about in the first place. Confucious
  • Score: 6

12:36pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Tony in Liberia wrote:
I love Seedhouse. I pretty much completely disagree with him, but I love his long-term dedication to Saints and I respect his current negative feelings, based as their are on loving the club. Sammy 2 brains, however, is a complete kn0b, as we all know.

The fact is always going to remain that no young lads, growing up and kicking a football around in the park, are going to grow up dreaming of playing for Saints; if they are good enough, they will always want to move on to the 'big 6'. That's the way football is set up at the moment; we cannot financially compete with them, and cannot grow as big. It sucks, but it's life. As an old-fashioned, die-hard socialist I blame the capitalist market economy that allows a few rich people to manipulate and twist the system so that it meets their needs, rather than the millions of the rest of us who do not have that power, but - unless we finally do start that revolution - we're stuck with it.

That's why, although I also wish we hadn't just dismantled one of our best ever teams, I focus on the fact that what I love is watching Saints, regardless of how well we are doing.

Oh, and when I say I love Seedhouse, I mean that in a manly, John Wayney, respectful buddies kind of way, not in any other kind of way. I mean, he's probably very nice, and I would assume well-groomed and presentable, but we've never actually met. Conversely, I would assume that Sammy 2 brain's gut is the size of Man Utd's overdraft, and his face as attractive as a season ticket to Nottarf Krap.
Oh it's gone weird again with this one.this is like some sort of seed fest.he said he wanted to be John Wayne and reenact broke back mountain with seed.
[quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: I love Seedhouse. I pretty much completely disagree with him, but I love his long-term dedication to Saints and I respect his current negative feelings, based as their are on loving the club. Sammy 2 brains, however, is a complete kn0b, as we all know. The fact is always going to remain that no young lads, growing up and kicking a football around in the park, are going to grow up dreaming of playing for Saints; if they are good enough, they will always want to move on to the 'big 6'. That's the way football is set up at the moment; we cannot financially compete with them, and cannot grow as big. It sucks, but it's life. As an old-fashioned, die-hard socialist I blame the capitalist market economy that allows a few rich people to manipulate and twist the system so that it meets their needs, rather than the millions of the rest of us who do not have that power, but - unless we finally do start that revolution - we're stuck with it. That's why, although I also wish we hadn't just dismantled one of our best ever teams, I focus on the fact that what I love is watching Saints, regardless of how well we are doing. Oh, and when I say I love Seedhouse, I mean that in a manly, John Wayney, respectful buddies kind of way, not in any other kind of way. I mean, he's probably very nice, and I would assume well-groomed and presentable, but we've never actually met. Conversely, I would assume that Sammy 2 brain's gut is the size of Man Utd's overdraft, and his face as attractive as a season ticket to Nottarf Krap.[/p][/quote]Oh it's gone weird again with this one.this is like some sort of seed fest.he said he wanted to be John Wayne and reenact broke back mountain with seed. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 2

12:37pm Mon 21 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

echo1948 wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down.

Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m.

Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January.

Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these.

If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago.

So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with.

I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing.

It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team.

There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying.
They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce.

The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !!

Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club.

I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON !
Why do you want a statement ??

It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer .
Careful what you say.Knackers, someone will accuse you of being a ****, which is what has happened to me on the other section.
If the cap fits........
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down. Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m. Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January. Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these. If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago. So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with. I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing. It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team. There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying. They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce. The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !! Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club. I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON ![/p][/quote]Why do you want a statement ?? It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer .[/p][/quote]Careful what you say.Knackers, someone will accuse you of being a ****, which is what has happened to me on the other section.[/p][/quote]If the cap fits........ OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

12:39pm Mon 21 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
I love Seedhouse. I pretty much completely disagree with him, but I love his long-term dedication to Saints and I respect his current negative feelings, based as their are on loving the club. Sammy 2 brains, however, is a complete kn0b, as we all know.

The fact is always going to remain that no young lads, growing up and kicking a football around in the park, are going to grow up dreaming of playing for Saints; if they are good enough, they will always want to move on to the 'big 6'. That's the way football is set up at the moment; we cannot financially compete with them, and cannot grow as big. It sucks, but it's life. As an old-fashioned, die-hard socialist I blame the capitalist market economy that allows a few rich people to manipulate and twist the system so that it meets their needs, rather than the millions of the rest of us who do not have that power, but - unless we finally do start that revolution - we're stuck with it.

That's why, although I also wish we hadn't just dismantled one of our best ever teams, I focus on the fact that what I love is watching Saints, regardless of how well we are doing.

Oh, and when I say I love Seedhouse, I mean that in a manly, John Wayney, respectful buddies kind of way, not in any other kind of way. I mean, he's probably very nice, and I would assume well-groomed and presentable, but we've never actually met. Conversely, I would assume that Sammy 2 brain's gut is the size of Man Utd's overdraft, and his face as attractive as a season ticket to Nottarf Krap.
Oh it's gone weird again with this one.this is like some sort of seed fest.he said he wanted to be John Wayne and reenact broke back mountain with seed.
A quick reminder for your eyes only, Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious. Them's the rules.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: I love Seedhouse. I pretty much completely disagree with him, but I love his long-term dedication to Saints and I respect his current negative feelings, based as their are on loving the club. Sammy 2 brains, however, is a complete kn0b, as we all know. The fact is always going to remain that no young lads, growing up and kicking a football around in the park, are going to grow up dreaming of playing for Saints; if they are good enough, they will always want to move on to the 'big 6'. That's the way football is set up at the moment; we cannot financially compete with them, and cannot grow as big. It sucks, but it's life. As an old-fashioned, die-hard socialist I blame the capitalist market economy that allows a few rich people to manipulate and twist the system so that it meets their needs, rather than the millions of the rest of us who do not have that power, but - unless we finally do start that revolution - we're stuck with it. That's why, although I also wish we hadn't just dismantled one of our best ever teams, I focus on the fact that what I love is watching Saints, regardless of how well we are doing. Oh, and when I say I love Seedhouse, I mean that in a manly, John Wayney, respectful buddies kind of way, not in any other kind of way. I mean, he's probably very nice, and I would assume well-groomed and presentable, but we've never actually met. Conversely, I would assume that Sammy 2 brain's gut is the size of Man Utd's overdraft, and his face as attractive as a season ticket to Nottarf Krap.[/p][/quote]Oh it's gone weird again with this one.this is like some sort of seed fest.he said he wanted to be John Wayne and reenact broke back mountain with seed.[/p][/quote]A quick reminder for your eyes only, Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious. Them's the rules. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

12:41pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Mister E says...

Can we please get back to an intelligent discussion on all things Saints!
I thought we Saints fans had more class than this puerile, petty and moronic drivel.
Can we please get back to an intelligent discussion on all things Saints! I thought we Saints fans had more class than this puerile, petty and moronic drivel. Mister E
  • Score: 5

12:41pm Mon 21 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back.

its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money.

the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief.
Targett had always been spoken of very highly. My slight concern was when Luke was injured last season Clyne was used at LB and Chambers at RB rather than giving Targett a run out. He didn't even get the cups when we fielded weaker teams. Hope we aren't rushing him.

I have noticed a shift of emphasis by the happy clappers. A while ago it was about how the replacements would be better and we would push on from 8th. There is now posts from the same people saying we won't be in a relegation battle.

I think we can all agree enough is enough now. If this board goes on to sell Morgan and Jay Rod then they should be tarred, feathered and hung by their testicles from the bargate.
Free. A pillow case full of discarded feathers. Contact Osprey on this thread. Buyer collects. No skunts.
I will join your crusade here, Free the pillow case it has committed no crime.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: just over a year and a half ago some were crying out for a young untested left back to be brought into the team to replace fox, he did ok in the end. yet now some of the same people are saying we cant rely on a young untested left back. its nice to see people are using the same double standards to young target as they are to dejan leaving. he has to leave tell him to f off get rid take the money. now, its the boards fault we should keep him its not enough money. the same old WUMS creating mayhem and mischief.[/p][/quote]Targett had always been spoken of very highly. My slight concern was when Luke was injured last season Clyne was used at LB and Chambers at RB rather than giving Targett a run out. He didn't even get the cups when we fielded weaker teams. Hope we aren't rushing him. I have noticed a shift of emphasis by the happy clappers. A while ago it was about how the replacements would be better and we would push on from 8th. There is now posts from the same people saying we won't be in a relegation battle. I think we can all agree enough is enough now. If this board goes on to sell Morgan and Jay Rod then they should be tarred, feathered and hung by their testicles from the bargate.[/p][/quote]Free. A pillow case full of discarded feathers. Contact Osprey on this thread. Buyer collects. No skunts.[/p][/quote]I will join your crusade here, Free the pillow case it has committed no crime. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -4

12:42pm Mon 21 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Mister E wrote:
Can we please get back to an intelligent discussion on all things Saints!
I thought we Saints fans had more class than this puerile, petty and moronic drivel.
lol I wish........
[quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: Can we please get back to an intelligent discussion on all things Saints! I thought we Saints fans had more class than this puerile, petty and moronic drivel.[/p][/quote]lol I wish........ OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

12:43pm Mon 21 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Knackers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.
No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.
You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set.
If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.
Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed
Check out kats track record in dealing with her dads "projects".spec
ifica
lly look at the engineering company Marcus saved that had 25 apprentices.have a look how she handled that.changevthe name and it could be saints.
You are starting to sound like Skating on Ice, you don't want to be doing that unless you are him.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.[/p][/quote]No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.[/p][/quote]You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set. If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.[/p][/quote]Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed[/p][/quote]Check out kats track record in dealing with her dads "projects".spec ifica lly look at the engineering company Marcus saved that had 25 apprentices.have a look how she handled that.changevthe name and it could be saints.[/p][/quote]You are starting to sound like Skating on Ice, you don't want to be doing that unless you are him. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

12:46pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Knackers says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Hullo 2sheds.
The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives.
I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on.
It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.
I do tend to agree with you, Dave. However, I must correct you on one major thing. Seed might be having a daily negative rant right now but he's earned that right. He's a fan of many years, a ST holder and regularly goes to away games. Also, while I may not agree 100% with his current rants, I do think he has a point about the way the Board are currently doing their business.

I'm not sure they could do much about keeping hold of players who want out, and I don't think the tragedy of their leaving is entirely the fault of the Board. Where I do think Seed and others have a point is in the way the Board have handled it all. The announcement in the Spring that the £27m debt needed sorting, as though it was a huge problem, was like sticking a 'PLAYERS FOR SALE' sign up. Then, not announcing that no transfer talk would happen until after the WC and until a new manager was in place seems rather odd to me.

As for getting players in, I don't think things are much different to the slow way that NC dealt with incoming players. But, the current need for new faces is somewhat more pressing than at any point in the past 5 years, so I hope the board are on top of things in a way that we all hope.

What would help now is for an official statement from Katharina; one that is accurate, clear and honest and would give everyone from fans to current staff to potential new signings a genuine belief that things are moving in the right direction.

As for Sammy2logins, he's a Melbourne-based skate with an extraordinary personality disorder. To mention him in the same breath as Seed, does the latter a huge disservice.
Strasbourg Saint welcome!! How's Strasbourg? I like seed too,he's the best.how much do you like him? A lot judging by your post.got your hand in his pocket again? When you write things like that it gets a bit weird for the rest of us.we are embarrassed for you.
God, you have a very sick mind. I feel very sad for you and embarrassed for your parents.
Now now I have reported your post for mentioning my parents that is bang out of orde.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Hullo 2sheds. The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives. I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on. It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.[/p][/quote]I do tend to agree with you, Dave. However, I must correct you on one major thing. Seed might be having a daily negative rant right now but he's earned that right. He's a fan of many years, a ST holder and regularly goes to away games. Also, while I may not agree 100% with his current rants, I do think he has a point about the way the Board are currently doing their business. I'm not sure they could do much about keeping hold of players who want out, and I don't think the tragedy of their leaving is entirely the fault of the Board. Where I do think Seed and others have a point is in the way the Board have handled it all. The announcement in the Spring that the £27m debt needed sorting, as though it was a huge problem, was like sticking a 'PLAYERS FOR SALE' sign up. Then, not announcing that no transfer talk would happen until after the WC and until a new manager was in place seems rather odd to me. As for getting players in, I don't think things are much different to the slow way that NC dealt with incoming players. But, the current need for new faces is somewhat more pressing than at any point in the past 5 years, so I hope the board are on top of things in a way that we all hope. What would help now is for an official statement from Katharina; one that is accurate, clear and honest and would give everyone from fans to current staff to potential new signings a genuine belief that things are moving in the right direction. As for Sammy2logins, he's a Melbourne-based skate with an extraordinary personality disorder. To mention him in the same breath as Seed, does the latter a huge disservice.[/p][/quote]Strasbourg Saint welcome!! How's Strasbourg? I like seed too,he's the best.how much do you like him? A lot judging by your post.got your hand in his pocket again? When you write things like that it gets a bit weird for the rest of us.we are embarrassed for you.[/p][/quote]God, you have a very sick mind. I feel very sad for you and embarrassed for your parents.[/p][/quote]Now now I have reported your post for mentioning my parents that is bang out of orde. Knackers
  • Score: -3

12:47pm Mon 21 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Knackers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.
No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.
Without Kats investment there could be no Club for the fans to support.
[quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.[/p][/quote]No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.[/p][/quote]Without Kats investment there could be no Club for the fans to support. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

12:47pm Mon 21 Jul 14

TGodSFC says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Knackers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.
No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.
You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set.
If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.
Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed
No doubt you predict a lot of points failures and no sign of getting on the right track with signal success, or are you sat on the platform for a few late arrivals, or are we just going to hit the buffers. At this junction I have no idea what direction we are going to take. it is difficult to tell without a timetable, but get a few more training and it will be just the ticket.
If you carried on with this discussion much more, you would both literally just be talking about trains!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.[/p][/quote]No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.[/p][/quote]You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set. If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.[/p][/quote]Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed[/p][/quote]No doubt you predict a lot of points failures and no sign of getting on the right track with signal success, or are you sat on the platform for a few late arrivals, or are we just going to hit the buffers. At this junction I have no idea what direction we are going to take. it is difficult to tell without a timetable, but get a few more training and it will be just the ticket.[/p][/quote]If you carried on with this discussion much more, you would both literally just be talking about trains! TGodSFC
  • Score: 1

12:49pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Knackers says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
I love Seedhouse. I pretty much completely disagree with him, but I love his long-term dedication to Saints and I respect his current negative feelings, based as their are on loving the club. Sammy 2 brains, however, is a complete kn0b, as we all know.

The fact is always going to remain that no young lads, growing up and kicking a football around in the park, are going to grow up dreaming of playing for Saints; if they are good enough, they will always want to move on to the 'big 6'. That's the way football is set up at the moment; we cannot financially compete with them, and cannot grow as big. It sucks, but it's life. As an old-fashioned, die-hard socialist I blame the capitalist market economy that allows a few rich people to manipulate and twist the system so that it meets their needs, rather than the millions of the rest of us who do not have that power, but - unless we finally do start that revolution - we're stuck with it.

That's why, although I also wish we hadn't just dismantled one of our best ever teams, I focus on the fact that what I love is watching Saints, regardless of how well we are doing.

Oh, and when I say I love Seedhouse, I mean that in a manly, John Wayney, respectful buddies kind of way, not in any other kind of way. I mean, he's probably very nice, and I would assume well-groomed and presentable, but we've never actually met. Conversely, I would assume that Sammy 2 brain's gut is the size of Man Utd's overdraft, and his face as attractive as a season ticket to Nottarf Krap.
Oh it's gone weird again with this one.this is like some sort of seed fest.he said he wanted to be John Wayne and reenact broke back mountain with seed.
A quick reminder for your eyes only, Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious. Them's the rules.
I wish les reed would stick to those rules
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: I love Seedhouse. I pretty much completely disagree with him, but I love his long-term dedication to Saints and I respect his current negative feelings, based as their are on loving the club. Sammy 2 brains, however, is a complete kn0b, as we all know. The fact is always going to remain that no young lads, growing up and kicking a football around in the park, are going to grow up dreaming of playing for Saints; if they are good enough, they will always want to move on to the 'big 6'. That's the way football is set up at the moment; we cannot financially compete with them, and cannot grow as big. It sucks, but it's life. As an old-fashioned, die-hard socialist I blame the capitalist market economy that allows a few rich people to manipulate and twist the system so that it meets their needs, rather than the millions of the rest of us who do not have that power, but - unless we finally do start that revolution - we're stuck with it. That's why, although I also wish we hadn't just dismantled one of our best ever teams, I focus on the fact that what I love is watching Saints, regardless of how well we are doing. Oh, and when I say I love Seedhouse, I mean that in a manly, John Wayney, respectful buddies kind of way, not in any other kind of way. I mean, he's probably very nice, and I would assume well-groomed and presentable, but we've never actually met. Conversely, I would assume that Sammy 2 brain's gut is the size of Man Utd's overdraft, and his face as attractive as a season ticket to Nottarf Krap.[/p][/quote]Oh it's gone weird again with this one.this is like some sort of seed fest.he said he wanted to be John Wayne and reenact broke back mountain with seed.[/p][/quote]A quick reminder for your eyes only, Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious. Them's the rules.[/p][/quote]I wish les reed would stick to those rules Knackers
  • Score: 1

12:52pm Mon 21 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Invidia wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
This concept of there is nothing that the board could have done about it is truly appalling. If my board ever said to me 'sorry seed, there was nothing we could have done about it' I would sack them and replace them with people who bloody could!

Please stop saying this could not have been avoided, it could, they just chose not to. All the evidence is out there, all the statements from managers, my neighbour, players etc from way before the end of the season, writ full and large for all to read. The board not only ignored it they also failed to plan for the consequences. Anyway, you keep trusting in this board until its too late, I'm off fishing. Ciao.
I can appreciate where you are coming from, but as one cog in a massive wheel, in a big engine, I haven't got much ability to affect the workings as a whole. Like it or not the management have chosen the route, we just have to follow and hope that they will get to their intended destination to the benefit of all of us.
Hmm the "Costa Concordia" comes to mind!
Not to mention the Titanic, drat I just did.....
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: This concept of there is nothing that the board could have done about it is truly appalling. If my board ever said to me 'sorry seed, there was nothing we could have done about it' I would sack them and replace them with people who bloody could! Please stop saying this could not have been avoided, it could, they just chose not to. All the evidence is out there, all the statements from managers, my neighbour, players etc from way before the end of the season, writ full and large for all to read. The board not only ignored it they also failed to plan for the consequences. Anyway, you keep trusting in this board until its too late, I'm off fishing. Ciao.[/p][/quote]I can appreciate where you are coming from, but as one cog in a massive wheel, in a big engine, I haven't got much ability to affect the workings as a whole. Like it or not the management have chosen the route, we just have to follow and hope that they will get to their intended destination to the benefit of all of us.[/p][/quote]Hmm the "Costa Concordia" comes to mind![/p][/quote]Not to mention the Titanic, drat I just did..... OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -5

12:57pm Mon 21 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Knackers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
I love Seedhouse. I pretty much completely disagree with him, but I love his long-term dedication to Saints and I respect his current negative feelings, based as their are on loving the club. Sammy 2 brains, however, is a complete kn0b, as we all know.

The fact is always going to remain that no young lads, growing up and kicking a football around in the park, are going to grow up dreaming of playing for Saints; if they are good enough, they will always want to move on to the 'big 6'. That's the way football is set up at the moment; we cannot financially compete with them, and cannot grow as big. It sucks, but it's life. As an old-fashioned, die-hard socialist I blame the capitalist market economy that allows a few rich people to manipulate and twist the system so that it meets their needs, rather than the millions of the rest of us who do not have that power, but - unless we finally do start that revolution - we're stuck with it.

That's why, although I also wish we hadn't just dismantled one of our best ever teams, I focus on the fact that what I love is watching Saints, regardless of how well we are doing.

Oh, and when I say I love Seedhouse, I mean that in a manly, John Wayney, respectful buddies kind of way, not in any other kind of way. I mean, he's probably very nice, and I would assume well-groomed and presentable, but we've never actually met. Conversely, I would assume that Sammy 2 brain's gut is the size of Man Utd's overdraft, and his face as attractive as a season ticket to Nottarf Krap.
Oh it's gone weird again with this one.this is like some sort of seed fest.he said he wanted to be John Wayne and reenact broke back mountain with seed.
A quick reminder for your eyes only, Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious. Them's the rules.
I wish les reed would stick to those rules
..and Ralph K! That would help.
[quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: I love Seedhouse. I pretty much completely disagree with him, but I love his long-term dedication to Saints and I respect his current negative feelings, based as their are on loving the club. Sammy 2 brains, however, is a complete kn0b, as we all know. The fact is always going to remain that no young lads, growing up and kicking a football around in the park, are going to grow up dreaming of playing for Saints; if they are good enough, they will always want to move on to the 'big 6'. That's the way football is set up at the moment; we cannot financially compete with them, and cannot grow as big. It sucks, but it's life. As an old-fashioned, die-hard socialist I blame the capitalist market economy that allows a few rich people to manipulate and twist the system so that it meets their needs, rather than the millions of the rest of us who do not have that power, but - unless we finally do start that revolution - we're stuck with it. That's why, although I also wish we hadn't just dismantled one of our best ever teams, I focus on the fact that what I love is watching Saints, regardless of how well we are doing. Oh, and when I say I love Seedhouse, I mean that in a manly, John Wayney, respectful buddies kind of way, not in any other kind of way. I mean, he's probably very nice, and I would assume well-groomed and presentable, but we've never actually met. Conversely, I would assume that Sammy 2 brain's gut is the size of Man Utd's overdraft, and his face as attractive as a season ticket to Nottarf Krap.[/p][/quote]Oh it's gone weird again with this one.this is like some sort of seed fest.he said he wanted to be John Wayne and reenact broke back mountain with seed.[/p][/quote]A quick reminder for your eyes only, Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious. Them's the rules.[/p][/quote]I wish les reed would stick to those rules[/p][/quote]..and Ralph K! That would help. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

12:57pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Saints n Winners says...

This site has become seriously infiltrated again. We must be on a slight downturn as a club; such is life.

Anyway - Following on from yesterday's thread - and today's article and the question of how good is local lad Targett - and how good could he become and is he good enough to play for England in time.
I wondered how many lad from our region have actually played for England over the years. I found this brilliant map.

http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/home/moslive/
article-2152689/Engl
and-football-Born-pl
ay-England-Where-Eng
land-international-f
ootballer-come--1-17
8-1872.html

The map clearly shows almost 30 players born in Hampshire.
Does anyone know the where these players came from within Hampshire?
This site has become seriously infiltrated again. We must be on a slight downturn as a club; such is life. Anyway - Following on from yesterday's thread - and today's article and the question of how good is local lad Targett - and how good could he become and is he good enough to play for England in time. I wondered how many lad from our region have actually played for England over the years. I found this brilliant map. http://www.dailymail .co.uk/home/moslive/ article-2152689/Engl and-football-Born-pl ay-England-Where-Eng land-international-f ootballer-come--1-17 8-1872.html The map clearly shows almost 30 players born in Hampshire. Does anyone know the where these players came from within Hampshire? Saints n Winners
  • Score: 0

12:58pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Knackers says...

Mister E wrote:
Can we please get back to an intelligent discussion on all things Saints!
I thought we Saints fans had more class than this puerile, petty and moronic drivel.
No
More drivel please
[quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: Can we please get back to an intelligent discussion on all things Saints! I thought we Saints fans had more class than this puerile, petty and moronic drivel.[/p][/quote]No More drivel please Knackers
  • Score: 0

12:59pm Mon 21 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

TGodSFC wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Knackers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.
No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.
You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set.
If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.
Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed
No doubt you predict a lot of points failures and no sign of getting on the right track with signal success, or are you sat on the platform for a few late arrivals, or are we just going to hit the buffers. At this junction I have no idea what direction we are going to take. it is difficult to tell without a timetable, but get a few more training and it will be just the ticket.
If you carried on with this discussion much more, you would both literally just be talking about trains!
.. and you don't want any truck with that I guess?
[quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.[/p][/quote]No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.[/p][/quote]You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set. If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.[/p][/quote]Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed[/p][/quote]No doubt you predict a lot of points failures and no sign of getting on the right track with signal success, or are you sat on the platform for a few late arrivals, or are we just going to hit the buffers. At this junction I have no idea what direction we are going to take. it is difficult to tell without a timetable, but get a few more training and it will be just the ticket.[/p][/quote]If you carried on with this discussion much more, you would both literally just be talking about trains![/p][/quote].. and you don't want any truck with that I guess? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -4

1:07pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Saintjock says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Knackers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.
No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.
You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set. If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.
Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed
Check out kats track record in dealing with her dads "projects".spec
ifica lly look at the engineering company Marcus saved that had 25 apprentices.have a look how she handled that.changevthe name and it could be saints.
Sammy - can you please go home to the Pompey site where you belong. In any case you promised you would never post on here again after the Steve Bruce for manager wind up, but taking your cue from your club, that was just another broken promise. The attempt to pass yourself off as a long-suffering Saints fan is tiresome. Just another envious and rather sad victim of your club's humiliating disintegration. The envious cry not once, but each time the envied are cheered. You will shed many more tears Sammy, unless you start doing something worthwhile with all the spare time you seem to have. Can't you get together with Seedhouse? (another Billy No Mates who spends more time winding people on their rival's website).
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.[/p][/quote]No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.[/p][/quote]You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set. If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.[/p][/quote]Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed[/p][/quote]Check out kats track record in dealing with her dads "projects".spec ifica lly look at the engineering company Marcus saved that had 25 apprentices.have a look how she handled that.changevthe name and it could be saints.[/p][/quote]Sammy - can you please go home to the Pompey site where you belong. In any case you promised you would never post on here again after the Steve Bruce for manager wind up, but taking your cue from your club, that was just another broken promise. The attempt to pass yourself off as a long-suffering Saints fan is tiresome. Just another envious and rather sad victim of your club's humiliating disintegration. The envious cry not once, but each time the envied are cheered. You will shed many more tears Sammy, unless you start doing something worthwhile with all the spare time you seem to have. Can't you get together with Seedhouse? (another Billy No Mates who spends more time winding people on their rival's website). Saintjock
  • Score: 1

1:11pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Dave Juson says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Knackers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.
No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.
You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set.
If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.
Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed
No doubt you predict a lot of points failures and no sign of getting on the right track with signal success, or are you sat on the platform for a few late arrivals, or are we just going to hit the buffers. At this junction I have no idea what direction we are going to take. it is difficult to tell without a timetable, but get a few more training and it will be just the ticket.
If you carried on with this discussion much more, you would both literally just be talking about trains!
.. and you don't want any truck with that I guess?
Seedhouse, have you evidence of this? A photograph say? Or are you just telling us some rubbish you heard down the golf club last night?
I refuse to join in with your headless chicken dance until I have proof you have the facts and that you know what you are talking about?
Your every comment so far has added up to Cluck! Cluck! all.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.[/p][/quote]No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.[/p][/quote]You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set. If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.[/p][/quote]Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed[/p][/quote]No doubt you predict a lot of points failures and no sign of getting on the right track with signal success, or are you sat on the platform for a few late arrivals, or are we just going to hit the buffers. At this junction I have no idea what direction we are going to take. it is difficult to tell without a timetable, but get a few more training and it will be just the ticket.[/p][/quote]If you carried on with this discussion much more, you would both literally just be talking about trains![/p][/quote].. and you don't want any truck with that I guess?[/p][/quote]Seedhouse, have you evidence of this? A photograph say? Or are you just telling us some rubbish you heard down the golf club last night? I refuse to join in with your headless chicken dance until I have proof you have the facts and that you know what you are talking about? Your every comment so far has added up to Cluck! Cluck! all. Dave Juson
  • Score: 0

1:14pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Chipmonk1 says...

echo1948 wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down.

Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m.

Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January.

Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these.

If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago.

So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with.

I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing.

It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team.

There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying.
They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce.

The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !!

Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club.

I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON !
Why do you want a statement ??

It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer .
Careful what you say.Knackers, someone will accuse you of being a ****, which is what has happened to me on the other section.
Not sure if you have been following echo 1948 but 2sh$#s & Knackers are the same person
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down. Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m. Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January. Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these. If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago. So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with. I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing. It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team. There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying. They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce. The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !! Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club. I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON ![/p][/quote]Why do you want a statement ?? It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer .[/p][/quote]Careful what you say.Knackers, someone will accuse you of being a ****, which is what has happened to me on the other section.[/p][/quote]Not sure if you have been following echo 1948 but 2sh$#s & Knackers are the same person Chipmonk1
  • Score: -1

1:20pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Saintade says...

elvis wrote:
Scrooge McDuck wrote ..... we're crap , were going to get relegated, bottom 3 for sure !!
The optimism on here is unbelievable .... so far we have lost just 3 players .... Riki who was at best only going to be a regular on the bench ,Lalana who's attitude towards the end quite frankly sucked & Shaw who left for an absolute ridiculous amount of money for an 18 year old with less than a season & a half of first team footie under his belt . All 3 have been replaced so it would seem ,with 2 new arrivals & at least 3 players from within the squad able to play at lb ....yes we might loose Loovens ,but will anybody really be sorry to see him go, ok Spider would be a massive miss (if & it is if he goes ) but that would still leave us with Corkie & Wanyama .... I think we'll sign at least 3 more players before the window closes and apart from the Liverpool game we have a great chance of racking up some serious points from the first quarter of the season .... things culd be a lot worse Spuds you hate seem to be buying half of Swanseas 1st team and their deluded manager thinks this will be enough to win them the league !!!! X
IT might be only 3 players, but they are probably our best 3 players and you can't afford to lose the spine of a team. We looked like a shadow of ourselves when Ricky didn't play last season, so he was a big big factor on how we played. I hope the newbies can go some way to replacing those three, but we have got nowhere near a strong enough team to survive at the moment. We always said we needed 4 or 5 more players to improve on 8th, and so far we haven't even replaced what we've lost. I can fully understand the pessimism on this site...I personally think we'll be down by Christmas if things stay as they are. What happened to all these players that were "knocking on our doors to play for us?" Have they all run away?
[quote][p][bold]elvis[/bold] wrote: Scrooge McDuck wrote ..... we're crap , were going to get relegated, bottom 3 for sure !! The optimism on here is unbelievable .... so far we have lost just 3 players .... Riki who was at best only going to be a regular on the bench ,Lalana who's attitude towards the end quite frankly sucked & Shaw who left for an absolute ridiculous amount of money for an 18 year old with less than a season & a half of first team footie under his belt . All 3 have been replaced so it would seem ,with 2 new arrivals & at least 3 players from within the squad able to play at lb ....yes we might loose Loovens ,but will anybody really be sorry to see him go, ok Spider would be a massive miss (if & it is if he goes ) but that would still leave us with Corkie & Wanyama .... I think we'll sign at least 3 more players before the window closes and apart from the Liverpool game we have a great chance of racking up some serious points from the first quarter of the season .... things culd be a lot worse Spuds you hate seem to be buying half of Swanseas 1st team and their deluded manager thinks this will be enough to win them the league !!!! X[/p][/quote]IT might be only 3 players, but they are probably our best 3 players and you can't afford to lose the spine of a team. We looked like a shadow of ourselves when Ricky didn't play last season, so he was a big big factor on how we played. I hope the newbies can go some way to replacing those three, but we have got nowhere near a strong enough team to survive at the moment. We always said we needed 4 or 5 more players to improve on 8th, and so far we haven't even replaced what we've lost. I can fully understand the pessimism on this site...I personally think we'll be down by Christmas if things stay as they are. What happened to all these players that were "knocking on our doors to play for us?" Have they all run away? Saintade
  • Score: -1

1:22pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Chipmonk1 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Knackers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.
No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.
You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set.
If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.
Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed
Check out kats track record in dealing with her dads "projects".spec

ifica
lly look at the engineering company Marcus saved that had 25 apprentices.have a look how she handled that.changevthe name and it could be saints.
You are starting to sound like Skating on Ice, you don't want to be doing that unless you are him.
Ospers you often plead with posters not to quote SPAM. Could you then refrain from engaging Sammy 2 s%^s#s or its other aliases
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.[/p][/quote]No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.[/p][/quote]You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set. If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.[/p][/quote]Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed[/p][/quote]Check out kats track record in dealing with her dads "projects".spec ifica lly look at the engineering company Marcus saved that had 25 apprentices.have a look how she handled that.changevthe name and it could be saints.[/p][/quote]You are starting to sound like Skating on Ice, you don't want to be doing that unless you are him.[/p][/quote]Ospers you often plead with posters not to quote SPAM. Could you then refrain from engaging Sammy 2 s%^s#s or its other aliases Chipmonk1
  • Score: 0

1:23pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Saintjock wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Knackers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.
No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.
You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set. If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.
Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed
Check out kats track record in dealing with her dads "projects".spec

ifica lly look at the engineering company Marcus saved that had 25 apprentices.have a look how she handled that.changevthe name and it could be saints.
Sammy - can you please go home to the Pompey site where you belong. In any case you promised you would never post on here again after the Steve Bruce for manager wind up, but taking your cue from your club, that was just another broken promise. The attempt to pass yourself off as a long-suffering Saints fan is tiresome. Just another envious and rather sad victim of your club's humiliating disintegration. The envious cry not once, but each time the envied are cheered. You will shed many more tears Sammy, unless you start doing something worthwhile with all the spare time you seem to have. Can't you get together with Seedhouse? (another Billy No Mates who spends more time winding people on their rival's website).
Dear saint jockstrap
You don't know me from a bar of soap so zip it.the Steve Bruce wind up was funny and you know it.you even said it yourself at the time.why do you think I am Pompey? Because I dare to criticise the way the clubs managed? You want to get out more because there is a lot of unhappy saints fans at the moment.
[quote][p][bold]Saintjock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.[/p][/quote]No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.[/p][/quote]You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set. If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.[/p][/quote]Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed[/p][/quote]Check out kats track record in dealing with her dads "projects".spec ifica lly look at the engineering company Marcus saved that had 25 apprentices.have a look how she handled that.changevthe name and it could be saints.[/p][/quote]Sammy - can you please go home to the Pompey site where you belong. In any case you promised you would never post on here again after the Steve Bruce for manager wind up, but taking your cue from your club, that was just another broken promise. The attempt to pass yourself off as a long-suffering Saints fan is tiresome. Just another envious and rather sad victim of your club's humiliating disintegration. The envious cry not once, but each time the envied are cheered. You will shed many more tears Sammy, unless you start doing something worthwhile with all the spare time you seem to have. Can't you get together with Seedhouse? (another Billy No Mates who spends more time winding people on their rival's website).[/p][/quote]Dear saint jockstrap You don't know me from a bar of soap so zip it.the Steve Bruce wind up was funny and you know it.you even said it yourself at the time.why do you think I am Pompey? Because I dare to criticise the way the clubs managed? You want to get out more because there is a lot of unhappy saints fans at the moment. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -5

1:26pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Chipmonk1 says...

echo1948 wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down.

Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m.

Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January.

Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these.

If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago.

So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with.

I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing.

It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team.

There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying.
They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce.

The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !!

Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club.

I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON !
Why do you want a statement ??

It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer .
Careful what you say.Knackers, someone will accuse you of being a ****, which is what has happened to me on the other section.
Not sure if you have been following echo 1948 but 2sh$#s & Knackers are the same person
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down. Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m. Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January. Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these. If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago. So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with. I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing. It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team. There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying. They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce. The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !! Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club. I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON ![/p][/quote]Why do you want a statement ?? It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer .[/p][/quote]Careful what you say.Knackers, someone will accuse you of being a ****, which is what has happened to me on the other section.[/p][/quote]Not sure if you have been following echo 1948 but 2sh$#s & Knackers are the same person Chipmonk1
  • Score: -1

1:31pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Knackers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.
No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.
You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set.
If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.
Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed
Check out kats track record in dealing with her dads "projects".spec


ifica
lly look at the engineering company Marcus saved that had 25 apprentices.have a look how she handled that.changevthe name and it could be saints.
You are starting to sound like Skating on Ice, you don't want to be doing that unless you are him.
Ospers you often plead with posters not to quote SPAM. Could you then refrain from engaging Sammy 2 s%^s#s or its other aliases
Hi chipmunk,the whole gangs in tonight. I couldn't help but notice you called Ospreysaint ospers.its kind of a chummy term, banter, playful yet clear. You two must be good mates.
You can call me shedsy from now on and we can have banter too.
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.[/p][/quote]No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.[/p][/quote]You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set. If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.[/p][/quote]Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed[/p][/quote]Check out kats track record in dealing with her dads "projects".spec ifica lly look at the engineering company Marcus saved that had 25 apprentices.have a look how she handled that.changevthe name and it could be saints.[/p][/quote]You are starting to sound like Skating on Ice, you don't want to be doing that unless you are him.[/p][/quote]Ospers you often plead with posters not to quote SPAM. Could you then refrain from engaging Sammy 2 s%^s#s or its other aliases[/p][/quote]Hi chipmunk,the whole gangs in tonight. I couldn't help but notice you called Ospreysaint ospers.its kind of a chummy term, banter, playful yet clear. You two must be good mates. You can call me shedsy from now on and we can have banter too. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -1

1:39pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Knackers says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down.

Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m.

Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January.

Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these.

If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago.

So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with.

I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing.

It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team.

There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying.
They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce.

The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !!

Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club.

I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON !
Why do you want a statement ??

It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer .
Careful what you say.Knackers, someone will accuse you of being a ****, which is what has happened to me on the other section.
Not sure if you have been following echo 1948 but 2sh$#s & Knackers are the same person
If you offer a negative post you either get called a skate or another poster.
Why am I Sammy? Because you don't like what I have posted.you are a rather sad individual.
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down. Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m. Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January. Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these. If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago. So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with. I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing. It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team. There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying. They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce. The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !! Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club. I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON ![/p][/quote]Why do you want a statement ?? It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer .[/p][/quote]Careful what you say.Knackers, someone will accuse you of being a ****, which is what has happened to me on the other section.[/p][/quote]Not sure if you have been following echo 1948 but 2sh$#s & Knackers are the same person[/p][/quote]If you offer a negative post you either get called a skate or another poster. Why am I Sammy? Because you don't like what I have posted.you are a rather sad individual. Knackers
  • Score: -2

1:41pm Mon 21 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Knackers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.
No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.
You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set.
If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.
Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed
Check out kats track record in dealing with her dads "projects".spec


ifica
lly look at the engineering company Marcus saved that had 25 apprentices.have a look how she handled that.changevthe name and it could be saints.
You are starting to sound like Skating on Ice, you don't want to be doing that unless you are him.
Ospers you often plead with posters not to quote SPAM. Could you then refrain from engaging Sammy 2 s%^s#s or its other aliases
You are right of course but I love a challenge! What other identities do you think he uses, I see trademarks but struggle to match them up, where is Velly when you need him, he was the expert at rooting them out.
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.[/p][/quote]No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.[/p][/quote]You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set. If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.[/p][/quote]Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed[/p][/quote]Check out kats track record in dealing with her dads "projects".spec ifica lly look at the engineering company Marcus saved that had 25 apprentices.have a look how she handled that.changevthe name and it could be saints.[/p][/quote]You are starting to sound like Skating on Ice, you don't want to be doing that unless you are him.[/p][/quote]Ospers you often plead with posters not to quote SPAM. Could you then refrain from engaging Sammy 2 s%^s#s or its other aliases[/p][/quote]You are right of course but I love a challenge! What other identities do you think he uses, I see trademarks but struggle to match them up, where is Velly when you need him, he was the expert at rooting them out. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

1:43pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
I love Seedhouse. I pretty much completely disagree with him, but I love his long-term dedication to Saints and I respect his current negative feelings, based as their are on loving the club. Sammy 2 brains, however, is a complete kn0b, as we all know.

The fact is always going to remain that no young lads, growing up and kicking a football around in the park, are going to grow up dreaming of playing for Saints; if they are good enough, they will always want to move on to the 'big 6'. That's the way football is set up at the moment; we cannot financially compete with them, and cannot grow as big. It sucks, but it's life. As an old-fashioned, die-hard socialist I blame the capitalist market economy that allows a few rich people to manipulate and twist the system so that it meets their needs, rather than the millions of the rest of us who do not have that power, but - unless we finally do start that revolution - we're stuck with it.

That's why, although I also wish we hadn't just dismantled one of our best ever teams, I focus on the fact that what I love is watching Saints, regardless of how well we are doing.

Oh, and when I say I love Seedhouse, I mean that in a manly, John Wayney, respectful buddies kind of way, not in any other kind of way. I mean, he's probably very nice, and I would assume well-groomed and presentable, but we've never actually met. Conversely, I would assume that Sammy 2 brain's gut is the size of Man Utd's overdraft, and his face as attractive as a season ticket to Nottarf Krap.
Oh it's gone weird again with this one.this is like some sort of seed fest.he said he wanted to be John Wayne and reenact broke back mountain with seed.
Back from the knackers' yard, are you?
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: I love Seedhouse. I pretty much completely disagree with him, but I love his long-term dedication to Saints and I respect his current negative feelings, based as their are on loving the club. Sammy 2 brains, however, is a complete kn0b, as we all know. The fact is always going to remain that no young lads, growing up and kicking a football around in the park, are going to grow up dreaming of playing for Saints; if they are good enough, they will always want to move on to the 'big 6'. That's the way football is set up at the moment; we cannot financially compete with them, and cannot grow as big. It sucks, but it's life. As an old-fashioned, die-hard socialist I blame the capitalist market economy that allows a few rich people to manipulate and twist the system so that it meets their needs, rather than the millions of the rest of us who do not have that power, but - unless we finally do start that revolution - we're stuck with it. That's why, although I also wish we hadn't just dismantled one of our best ever teams, I focus on the fact that what I love is watching Saints, regardless of how well we are doing. Oh, and when I say I love Seedhouse, I mean that in a manly, John Wayney, respectful buddies kind of way, not in any other kind of way. I mean, he's probably very nice, and I would assume well-groomed and presentable, but we've never actually met. Conversely, I would assume that Sammy 2 brain's gut is the size of Man Utd's overdraft, and his face as attractive as a season ticket to Nottarf Krap.[/p][/quote]Oh it's gone weird again with this one.this is like some sort of seed fest.he said he wanted to be John Wayne and reenact broke back mountain with seed.[/p][/quote]Back from the knackers' yard, are you? Rising_Son
  • Score: -1

1:45pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

Mister E wrote:
Can we please get back to an intelligent discussion on all things Saints!
I thought we Saints fans had more class than this puerile, petty and moronic drivel.
We Saints fans do.
[quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: Can we please get back to an intelligent discussion on all things Saints! I thought we Saints fans had more class than this puerile, petty and moronic drivel.[/p][/quote]We Saints fans do. Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

1:46pm Mon 21 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Knackers wrote:
Chipmonk1 wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down.

Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m.

Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January.

Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these.

If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago.

So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with.

I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing.

It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team.

There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying.
They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce.

The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !!

Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club.

I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON !
Why do you want a statement ??

It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer .
Careful what you say.Knackers, someone will accuse you of being a ****, which is what has happened to me on the other section.
Not sure if you have been following echo 1948 but 2sh$#s & Knackers are the same person
If you offer a negative post you either get called a skate or another poster.
Why am I Sammy? Because you don't like what I have posted.you are a rather sad individual.
If you are a skate then you should be proud of it, if you aren't then you should categorically deny it, just for the record. If you are not Sammy then say so, we will believe you, probably............
..
What gives you the impression that we didn't like what you posted, we may have liked it but disagreed with it, that isn't the same thing, and if we didn't like it why do you think that was?
[quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down. Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m. Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January. Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these. If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago. So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with. I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing. It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team. There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying. They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce. The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !! Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club. I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON ![/p][/quote]Why do you want a statement ?? It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer .[/p][/quote]Careful what you say.Knackers, someone will accuse you of being a ****, which is what has happened to me on the other section.[/p][/quote]Not sure if you have been following echo 1948 but 2sh$#s & Knackers are the same person[/p][/quote]If you offer a negative post you either get called a skate or another poster. Why am I Sammy? Because you don't like what I have posted.you are a rather sad individual.[/p][/quote]If you are a skate then you should be proud of it, if you aren't then you should categorically deny it, just for the record. If you are not Sammy then say so, we will believe you, probably............ .. What gives you the impression that we didn't like what you posted, we may have liked it but disagreed with it, that isn't the same thing, and if we didn't like it why do you think that was? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

1:47pm Mon 21 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden.

We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs.

Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st.
This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season.
Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue.

All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands,
If your anxious and.......
All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden. We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs. Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st. This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season. Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue. All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands, If your anxious and....... costa gaz
  • Score: 4

1:47pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

Knackers wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Hullo 2sheds.
The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives.
I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on.
It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.
I do tend to agree with you, Dave. However, I must correct you on one major thing. Seed might be having a daily negative rant right now but he's earned that right. He's a fan of many years, a ST holder and regularly goes to away games. Also, while I may not agree 100% with his current rants, I do think he has a point about the way the Board are currently doing their business.

I'm not sure they could do much about keeping hold of players who want out, and I don't think the tragedy of their leaving is entirely the fault of the Board. Where I do think Seed and others have a point is in the way the Board have handled it all. The announcement in the Spring that the £27m debt needed sorting, as though it was a huge problem, was like sticking a 'PLAYERS FOR SALE' sign up. Then, not announcing that no transfer talk would happen until after the WC and until a new manager was in place seems rather odd to me.

As for getting players in, I don't think things are much different to the slow way that NC dealt with incoming players. But, the current need for new faces is somewhat more pressing than at any point in the past 5 years, so I hope the board are on top of things in a way that we all hope.

What would help now is for an official statement from Katharina; one that is accurate, clear and honest and would give everyone from fans to current staff to potential new signings a genuine belief that things are moving in the right direction.

As for Sammy2logins, he's a Melbourne-based skate with an extraordinary personality disorder. To mention him in the same breath as Seed, does the latter a huge disservice.
Strasbourg Saint welcome!! How's Strasbourg? I like seed too,he's the best.how much do you like him? A lot judging by your post.got your hand in his pocket again? When you write things like that it gets a bit weird for the rest of us.we are embarrassed for you.
God, you have a very sick mind. I feel very sad for you and embarrassed for your parents.
Now now I have reported your post for mentioning my parents that is bang out of orde.
Yes, way way out of orde. You probably never knew them, and you are probably the reason.
[quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Hullo 2sheds. The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives. I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on. It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.[/p][/quote]I do tend to agree with you, Dave. However, I must correct you on one major thing. Seed might be having a daily negative rant right now but he's earned that right. He's a fan of many years, a ST holder and regularly goes to away games. Also, while I may not agree 100% with his current rants, I do think he has a point about the way the Board are currently doing their business. I'm not sure they could do much about keeping hold of players who want out, and I don't think the tragedy of their leaving is entirely the fault of the Board. Where I do think Seed and others have a point is in the way the Board have handled it all. The announcement in the Spring that the £27m debt needed sorting, as though it was a huge problem, was like sticking a 'PLAYERS FOR SALE' sign up. Then, not announcing that no transfer talk would happen until after the WC and until a new manager was in place seems rather odd to me. As for getting players in, I don't think things are much different to the slow way that NC dealt with incoming players. But, the current need for new faces is somewhat more pressing than at any point in the past 5 years, so I hope the board are on top of things in a way that we all hope. What would help now is for an official statement from Katharina; one that is accurate, clear and honest and would give everyone from fans to current staff to potential new signings a genuine belief that things are moving in the right direction. As for Sammy2logins, he's a Melbourne-based skate with an extraordinary personality disorder. To mention him in the same breath as Seed, does the latter a huge disservice.[/p][/quote]Strasbourg Saint welcome!! How's Strasbourg? I like seed too,he's the best.how much do you like him? A lot judging by your post.got your hand in his pocket again? When you write things like that it gets a bit weird for the rest of us.we are embarrassed for you.[/p][/quote]God, you have a very sick mind. I feel very sad for you and embarrassed for your parents.[/p][/quote]Now now I have reported your post for mentioning my parents that is bang out of orde.[/p][/quote]Yes, way way out of orde. You probably never knew them, and you are probably the reason. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

1:51pm Mon 21 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Knackers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.
No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.
You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set.
If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.
Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed
No doubt you predict a lot of points failures and no sign of getting on the right track with signal success, or are you sat on the platform for a few late arrivals, or are we just going to hit the buffers. At this junction I have no idea what direction we are going to take. it is difficult to tell without a timetable, but get a few more training and it will be just the ticket.
If you carried on with this discussion much more, you would both literally just be talking about trains!
.. and you don't want any truck with that I guess?
Seedhouse, have you evidence of this? A photograph say? Or are you just telling us some rubbish you heard down the golf club last night?
I refuse to join in with your headless chicken dance until I have proof you have the facts and that you know what you are talking about?
Your every comment so far has added up to Cluck! Cluck! all.
Wrong quote? Some strange things happening on here today.... Like the S that I typed in 'Some', suddenly vanished and I had to retype it, weird.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.[/p][/quote]No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.[/p][/quote]You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set. If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.[/p][/quote]Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed[/p][/quote]No doubt you predict a lot of points failures and no sign of getting on the right track with signal success, or are you sat on the platform for a few late arrivals, or are we just going to hit the buffers. At this junction I have no idea what direction we are going to take. it is difficult to tell without a timetable, but get a few more training and it will be just the ticket.[/p][/quote]If you carried on with this discussion much more, you would both literally just be talking about trains![/p][/quote].. and you don't want any truck with that I guess?[/p][/quote]Seedhouse, have you evidence of this? A photograph say? Or are you just telling us some rubbish you heard down the golf club last night? I refuse to join in with your headless chicken dance until I have proof you have the facts and that you know what you are talking about? Your every comment so far has added up to Cluck! Cluck! all.[/p][/quote]Wrong quote? Some strange things happening on here today.... Like the S that I typed in 'Some', suddenly vanished and I had to retype it, weird. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

1:56pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

costa gaz wrote:
All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden.

We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs.

Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st.
This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season.
Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue.

All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands,
If your anxious and.......
And, I expect you are gleefully hoping to be able say, "I told you so!"come 31st August.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden. We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs. Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st. This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season. Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue. All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands, If your anxious and.......[/p][/quote]And, I expect you are gleefully hoping to be able say, "I told you so!"come 31st August. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

2:19pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Saints n Winners says...

Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Knackers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.
No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.
You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set.
If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.
Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed
No doubt you predict a lot of points failures and no sign of getting on the right track with signal success, or are you sat on the platform for a few late arrivals, or are we just going to hit the buffers. At this junction I have no idea what direction we are going to take. it is difficult to tell without a timetable, but get a few more training and it will be just the ticket.
If you carried on with this discussion much more, you would both literally just be talking about trains!
.. and you don't want any truck with that I guess?
Seedhouse, have you evidence of this? A photograph say? Or are you just telling us some rubbish you heard down the golf club last night?
I refuse to join in with your headless chicken dance until I have proof you have the facts and that you know what you are talking about?
Your every comment so far has added up to Cluck! Cluck! all.
So are you saying that Seedhouse and Osprey are the same person?
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Well you have got that badly wrong, there is some income from the turnstiles, but most of the money comes from other elements. We are just small fry in a big pond.[/p][/quote]No you have it badly wrong.not talking about monetary turnover my point is that without our support the club I.e kats investment is worth nothing.[/p][/quote]You are forgetting that it is Kat's train set. If you would like her to keep playing with it I suggest you show a little more appreciation, or she might get fed up and give it away to the poor people.[/p][/quote]Great because at the moment she has given the rails away and the train is stuck at the station with the fat controller les reed[/p][/quote]No doubt you predict a lot of points failures and no sign of getting on the right track with signal success, or are you sat on the platform for a few late arrivals, or are we just going to hit the buffers. At this junction I have no idea what direction we are going to take. it is difficult to tell without a timetable, but get a few more training and it will be just the ticket.[/p][/quote]If you carried on with this discussion much more, you would both literally just be talking about trains![/p][/quote].. and you don't want any truck with that I guess?[/p][/quote]Seedhouse, have you evidence of this? A photograph say? Or are you just telling us some rubbish you heard down the golf club last night? I refuse to join in with your headless chicken dance until I have proof you have the facts and that you know what you are talking about? Your every comment so far has added up to Cluck! Cluck! all.[/p][/quote]So are you saying that Seedhouse and Osprey are the same person? Saints n Winners
  • Score: -1

2:22pm Mon 21 Jul 14

right back in the bar says...

milton road wrote:
You can't just drop Matt into the first team, you have to being him in little by little as we did Shaw. Whatever happens we need another left back.
I believe Yoshida is capable of filling in for Lovren. We are still going to need at least 1 if not 2 centrebacks., because Hoov is not up to it. not sure how good Stephens is.
Lovren became a hit for Saints and in the media during the first 10-11 games last season. When we really started well, after that we shipped a lot of goals, though we tightened up at the end. Which all seems to be connected more to Vic than Lovren.
Yes Lovren was a good buy and yes Luke is a great player. Yet the number of times we were in trouble last season because Luke was caught up field on a fast counter attack and the statistics show taking away the first ten games of our first two seasons, that the pairing of Fonte and Yoshida conceded less goals than Fonte and Lovren. People have come down on Yoshi over 1 game against Villa, his first of the season last year, yet he did little wrong when called on after that.
When people say the attack has been weakened how? RL was a fantastic player for Saints, yet around 50% of his goals in the premier were free kicks and penalties. The number of goals from open play was not that impressive at all. Lallana scored 10 goals which is good return from a midfield player but his assists were not so good as they should of been.
The players we have lost were great players for the club and they will be missed but they are not irreplaceable.
We have to accept that Poch made major tactical errors in the cups that could of cost us a place in the Europa league and possibly of kept the team. As we have seen though Poch is a man of double standards who would rather Saints were not in the Europa league as he stated, it was more trouble than it was worth. Then went and joined a club because they were in the Europa League.
Things do not always go forward or back they just change and change is not always for the worse.
Good post and I agree Maya and Fonte were a pretty solid pairing and we succeeded in royally ripping off Manure with the money we got for Shaw who too frequently forgets how to defend. AL for me doesn't have a stomach for the physical side of the game and will be found out this season and Sir RL is well and truly past his best and can probably only play in fits and starts. But Lovren and Spider (seems likely) leaving means we will have hanged half the team and so, like you say, change in not always for the worst you take a big risk with that much change. We have been given a good set of fixtures to start with and this new team must maximise the opportunity from that if we are to avoid a relegation battle.
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: You can't just drop Matt into the first team, you have to being him in little by little as we did Shaw. Whatever happens we need another left back. I believe Yoshida is capable of filling in for Lovren. We are still going to need at least 1 if not 2 centrebacks., because Hoov is not up to it. not sure how good Stephens is. Lovren became a hit for Saints and in the media during the first 10-11 games last season. When we really started well, after that we shipped a lot of goals, though we tightened up at the end. Which all seems to be connected more to Vic than Lovren. Yes Lovren was a good buy and yes Luke is a great player. Yet the number of times we were in trouble last season because Luke was caught up field on a fast counter attack and the statistics show taking away the first ten games of our first two seasons, that the pairing of Fonte and Yoshida conceded less goals than Fonte and Lovren. People have come down on Yoshi over 1 game against Villa, his first of the season last year, yet he did little wrong when called on after that. When people say the attack has been weakened how? RL was a fantastic player for Saints, yet around 50% of his goals in the premier were free kicks and penalties. The number of goals from open play was not that impressive at all. Lallana scored 10 goals which is good return from a midfield player but his assists were not so good as they should of been. The players we have lost were great players for the club and they will be missed but they are not irreplaceable. We have to accept that Poch made major tactical errors in the cups that could of cost us a place in the Europa league and possibly of kept the team. As we have seen though Poch is a man of double standards who would rather Saints were not in the Europa league as he stated, it was more trouble than it was worth. Then went and joined a club because they were in the Europa League. Things do not always go forward or back they just change and change is not always for the worse.[/p][/quote]Good post and I agree Maya and Fonte were a pretty solid pairing and we succeeded in royally ripping off Manure with the money we got for Shaw who too frequently forgets how to defend. AL for me doesn't have a stomach for the physical side of the game and will be found out this season and Sir RL is well and truly past his best and can probably only play in fits and starts. But Lovren and Spider (seems likely) leaving means we will have hanged half the team and so, like you say, change in not always for the worst you take a big risk with that much change. We have been given a good set of fixtures to start with and this new team must maximise the opportunity from that if we are to avoid a relegation battle. right back in the bar
  • Score: 1

2:27pm Mon 21 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden.

We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs.

Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st.
This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season.
Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue.

All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands,
If your anxious and.......
And, I expect you are gleefully hoping to be able say, "I told you so!"come 31st August.
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Not in the slightest RS, I hate what is happening, but I was never in denial about it happening.
All those nasty Journalists who published stories about the sale of our best players were mostly right in the end, but you all thought they were just making things up to get at our club.

It really wasn't difficult to call this right, but the rose tinted specs have to be removed first and then, all will become much clearer.
Some of you happy clappers should try this, it makes being a saints fan a little easier during tough times.
Ask yourself this, if Koeman is rated higher than Pochettino, why is the latter earning 4x what Big Ron is getting........ this applies to all the other sold players.
sincerely hoping I've all this wrong, but ....
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden. We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs. Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st. This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season. Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue. All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands, If your anxious and.......[/p][/quote]And, I expect you are gleefully hoping to be able say, "I told you so!"come 31st August.[/p][/quote]******************** ******************** **** Not in the slightest RS, I hate what is happening, but I was never in denial about it happening. All those nasty Journalists who published stories about the sale of our best players were mostly right in the end, but you all thought they were just making things up to get at our club. It really wasn't difficult to call this right, but the rose tinted specs have to be removed first and then, all will become much clearer. Some of you happy clappers should try this, it makes being a saints fan a little easier during tough times. Ask yourself this, if Koeman is rated higher than Pochettino, why is the latter earning 4x what Big Ron is getting........ this applies to all the other sold players. sincerely hoping I've all this wrong, but .... costa gaz
  • Score: 2

2:32pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden.

We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs.

Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st.
This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season.
Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue.

All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands,
If your anxious and.......
And, I expect you are gleefully hoping to be able say, "I told you so!"come 31st August.
********************

********************

****


Not in the slightest RS, I hate what is happening, but I was never in denial about it happening.
All those nasty Journalists who published stories about the sale of our best players were mostly right in the end, but you all thought they were just making things up to get at our club.

It really wasn't difficult to call this right, but the rose tinted specs have to be removed first and then, all will become much clearer.
Some of you happy clappers should try this, it makes being a saints fan a little easier during tough times.
Ask yourself this, if Koeman is rated higher than Pochettino, why is the latter earning 4x what Big Ron is getting........ this applies to all the other sold players.
sincerely hoping I've all this wrong, but ....
I hope you've got it wrong too.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden. We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs. Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st. This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season. Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue. All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands, If your anxious and.......[/p][/quote]And, I expect you are gleefully hoping to be able say, "I told you so!"come 31st August.[/p][/quote]******************** ******************** **** Not in the slightest RS, I hate what is happening, but I was never in denial about it happening. All those nasty Journalists who published stories about the sale of our best players were mostly right in the end, but you all thought they were just making things up to get at our club. It really wasn't difficult to call this right, but the rose tinted specs have to be removed first and then, all will become much clearer. Some of you happy clappers should try this, it makes being a saints fan a little easier during tough times. Ask yourself this, if Koeman is rated higher than Pochettino, why is the latter earning 4x what Big Ron is getting........ this applies to all the other sold players. sincerely hoping I've all this wrong, but ....[/p][/quote]I hope you've got it wrong too. Rising_Son
  • Score: 5

2:33pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Saintjock says...

costa gaz wrote:
All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden. We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs. Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st. This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season. Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue. All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands, If your anxious and.......
Huge crisis eh? What did you call our predicament five years ago then - you must have thought Apocalypse or Armageddon didn't go far enough. Just grow a pair girls, and stop your clucking, please.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden. We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs. Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st. This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season. Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue. All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands, If your anxious and.......[/p][/quote]Huge crisis eh? What did you call our predicament five years ago then - you must have thought Apocalypse or Armageddon didn't go far enough. Just grow a pair girls, and stop your clucking, please. Saintjock
  • Score: -1

2:38pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Dave Juson wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
St_Ron wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..
When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.
Hullo 2sheds.
The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives.
I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on.
It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.
I do tend to agree with you, Dave. However, I must correct you on one major thing. Seed might be having a daily negative rant right now but he's earned that right. He's a fan of many years, a ST holder and regularly goes to away games. Also, while I may not agree 100% with his current rants, I do think he has a point about the way the Board are currently doing their business.

I'm not sure they could do much about keeping hold of players who want out, and I don't think the tragedy of their leaving is entirely the fault of the Board. Where I do think Seed and others have a point is in the way the Board have handled it all. The announcement in the Spring that the £27m debt needed sorting, as though it was a huge problem, was like sticking a 'PLAYERS FOR SALE' sign up. Then, not announcing that no transfer talk would happen until after the WC and until a new manager was in place seems rather odd to me.

As for getting players in, I don't think things are much different to the slow way that NC dealt with incoming players. But, the current need for new faces is somewhat more pressing than at any point in the past 5 years, so I hope the board are on top of things in a way that we all hope.

What would help now is for an official statement from Katharina; one that is accurate, clear and honest and would give everyone from fans to current staff to potential new signings a genuine belief that things are moving in the right direction.

As for Sammy2logins, he's a Melbourne-based skate with an extraordinary personality disorder. To mention him in the same breath as Seed, does the latter a huge disservice.
Thank you for being so polite Strasburg Saint, but while Seedhouse is, of course, entitled to an opinion, has not earned the right to rattle off badly informed judgements. Neither has anyone else.
That includes the many “Saints legends” whose views are given such prominence on this website.
If you want an opinion to be taken seriously you need: a What; Why; When; How; Where and a Who. The negative posters on here, such as Seedhouse, are seriously short on the whats, hows and whys.

It is not good enough. Nor is it clever. It is turning what the Echo (which glories in the ignorance of its readers, especially of the readers who support the Saints) would have us believe is a crisis into a disaster before establishing whether there is a crisis or not.

I would further add that, if and when a crisis really does develop, we keep our heads and show solidarity with the Club, rather than go looking for scapegoats. The last time that happened we ended up with Michael Wild as chairman and a slippery slope became a cliff.
You have a point, but I do think Seed has a right to 'rattle off badly informed judgments' as you put it, if that's what he thinks, based on his perception of what's happening. Just as I have a right to disagree with him even though I know just as little about what's happening as the rest of us.

The fundamental point is that he's a world away from the one correctly described by Tony (at 12.00 noon above) as a 'kn0b' and his alter ego or twin kn0b 'knackered', both of whom simply come on here in an often successful attempt to engage posters in tit-for-tat muck throwing.

As for your opinions about the DE sports journos' contribution to all this, alas, I have to agree. They do seem hell bent on stirring and rather less willing to go looking for the inside reality. Maybe one of them could tell us how much effort they've put into getting answers directly from the board. An interview with Ralph by a journalist who asked the right questions might offer a lot more insite than all of our collective opinions, although, unless the club ends up signing Messi, it's probably too late already for the board to win back those who are set so totally against them.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St_Ron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]why don't you invest your own money in and increase the bid? you do come across as either forgetful or ungrateful, do you remember when we saints were in adminstration facing oblivion which would of happened if the Lieber's did not invest..[/p][/quote]When 30,000 people pay a lot of money to see me have a kick about in my back garden every week then I will invest.supporters forget that we are the power at the club,this is our club.without us all kat owns is an empty stadium. It's us mugs who pay good money that make southampton fc a real investment.we are not powerless and there is growing unrest at what is happening at the club.is this all coincidence? I haven't seen an exodus like before in football and it is not finished.[/p][/quote]Hullo 2sheds. The growing unrest is you Seedhouse and a small bunch of people who might, for all I know, never have seen a football game in their lives. I cannot understand how you can be so indignant about the situation at St Mary’s when you have no coherent idea of what is going on. It is a good thing none of the negative posters on here never worked at sea, they have been running around the decks and, at frequent intervals, shrilly demanding to know whether the ship is sinking or not.[/p][/quote]I do tend to agree with you, Dave. However, I must correct you on one major thing. Seed might be having a daily negative rant right now but he's earned that right. He's a fan of many years, a ST holder and regularly goes to away games. Also, while I may not agree 100% with his current rants, I do think he has a point about the way the Board are currently doing their business. I'm not sure they could do much about keeping hold of players who want out, and I don't think the tragedy of their leaving is entirely the fault of the Board. Where I do think Seed and others have a point is in the way the Board have handled it all. The announcement in the Spring that the £27m debt needed sorting, as though it was a huge problem, was like sticking a 'PLAYERS FOR SALE' sign up. Then, not announcing that no transfer talk would happen until after the WC and until a new manager was in place seems rather odd to me. As for getting players in, I don't think things are much different to the slow way that NC dealt with incoming players. But, the current need for new faces is somewhat more pressing than at any point in the past 5 years, so I hope the board are on top of things in a way that we all hope. What would help now is for an official statement from Katharina; one that is accurate, clear and honest and would give everyone from fans to current staff to potential new signings a genuine belief that things are moving in the right direction. As for Sammy2logins, he's a Melbourne-based skate with an extraordinary personality disorder. To mention him in the same breath as Seed, does the latter a huge disservice.[/p][/quote]Thank you for being so polite Strasburg Saint, but while Seedhouse is, of course, entitled to an opinion, has not earned the right to rattle off badly informed judgements. Neither has anyone else. That includes the many “Saints legends” whose views are given such prominence on this website. If you want an opinion to be taken seriously you need: a What; Why; When; How; Where and a Who. The negative posters on here, such as Seedhouse, are seriously short on the whats, hows and whys. It is not good enough. Nor is it clever. It is turning what the Echo (which glories in the ignorance of its readers, especially of the readers who support the Saints) would have us believe is a crisis into a disaster before establishing whether there is a crisis or not. I would further add that, if and when a crisis really does develop, we keep our heads and show solidarity with the Club, rather than go looking for scapegoats. The last time that happened we ended up with Michael Wild as chairman and a slippery slope became a cliff.[/p][/quote]You have a point, but I do think Seed has a right to 'rattle off badly informed judgments' as you put it, if that's what he thinks, based on his perception of what's happening. Just as I have a right to disagree with him even though I know just as little about what's happening as the rest of us. The fundamental point is that he's a world away from the one correctly described by Tony (at 12.00 noon above) as a 'kn0b' and his alter ego or twin kn0b 'knackered', both of whom simply come on here in an often successful attempt to engage posters in tit-for-tat muck throwing. As for your opinions about the DE sports journos' contribution to all this, alas, I have to agree. They do seem hell bent on stirring and rather less willing to go looking for the inside reality. Maybe one of them could tell us how much effort they've put into getting answers directly from the board. An interview with Ralph by a journalist who asked the right questions might offer a lot more insite than all of our collective opinions, although, unless the club ends up signing Messi, it's probably too late already for the board to win back those who are set so totally against them. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 0

2:43pm Mon 21 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

Saintjock wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden. We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs. Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st. This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season. Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue. All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands, If your anxious and.......
Huge crisis eh? What did you call our predicament five years ago then - you must have thought Apocalypse or Armageddon didn't go far enough. Just grow a pair girls, and stop your clucking, please.
Saint jock, glad you think everything is ok.
Deep down you must realise we might have a bit of a problem.
[quote][p][bold]Saintjock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden. We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs. Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st. This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season. Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue. All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands, If your anxious and.......[/p][/quote]Huge crisis eh? What did you call our predicament five years ago then - you must have thought Apocalypse or Armageddon didn't go far enough. Just grow a pair girls, and stop your clucking, please.[/p][/quote]Saint jock, glad you think everything is ok. Deep down you must realise we might have a bit of a problem. costa gaz
  • Score: 3

2:51pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

costa gaz wrote:
Saintjock wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden. We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs. Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st. This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season. Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue. All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands, If your anxious and.......
Huge crisis eh? What did you call our predicament five years ago then - you must have thought Apocalypse or Armageddon didn't go far enough. Just grow a pair girls, and stop your clucking, please.
Saint jock, glad you think everything is ok.
Deep down you must realise we might have a bit of a problem.
Why do you think he thinks everything is ok? All he seems to be saying is that he doesn't think it's as bad as when we nearly went bankrupt five years ago. Of course, it's your right to do disagree with that, but I should think a lot of people would seriously question your judgement (or maybe even your intelligence).
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintjock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden. We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs. Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st. This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season. Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue. All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands, If your anxious and.......[/p][/quote]Huge crisis eh? What did you call our predicament five years ago then - you must have thought Apocalypse or Armageddon didn't go far enough. Just grow a pair girls, and stop your clucking, please.[/p][/quote]Saint jock, glad you think everything is ok. Deep down you must realise we might have a bit of a problem.[/p][/quote]Why do you think he thinks everything is ok? All he seems to be saying is that he doesn't think it's as bad as when we nearly went bankrupt five years ago. Of course, it's your right to do disagree with that, but I should think a lot of people would seriously question your judgement (or maybe even your intelligence). Rising_Son
  • Score: -2

2:55pm Mon 21 Jul 14

jasons odd says...

costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden.

We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs.

Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st.
This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season.
Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue.

All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands,
If your anxious and.......
And, I expect you are gleefully hoping to be able say, "I told you so!"come 31st August.
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Not in the slightest RS, I hate what is happening, but I was never in denial about it happening.
All those nasty Journalists who published stories about the sale of our best players were mostly right in the end, but you all thought they were just making things up to get at our club.

It really wasn't difficult to call this right, but the rose tinted specs have to be removed first and then, all will become much clearer.
Some of you happy clappers should try this, it makes being a saints fan a little easier during tough times.
Ask yourself this, if Koeman is rated higher than Pochettino, why is the latter earning 4x what Big Ron is getting........ this applies to all the other sold players.
sincerely hoping I've all this wrong, but ....
You have it right . Koeman had very few options , he has a poor record and no top teams were interested . It was either stay at feyenoord or double /triple his wages coming to Southampton . No one who understands football rates koeman more than pochettino .

....but many have deluded themselves into doing so
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden. We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs. Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st. This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season. Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue. All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands, If your anxious and.......[/p][/quote]And, I expect you are gleefully hoping to be able say, "I told you so!"come 31st August.[/p][/quote]******************** ******************** **** Not in the slightest RS, I hate what is happening, but I was never in denial about it happening. All those nasty Journalists who published stories about the sale of our best players were mostly right in the end, but you all thought they were just making things up to get at our club. It really wasn't difficult to call this right, but the rose tinted specs have to be removed first and then, all will become much clearer. Some of you happy clappers should try this, it makes being a saints fan a little easier during tough times. Ask yourself this, if Koeman is rated higher than Pochettino, why is the latter earning 4x what Big Ron is getting........ this applies to all the other sold players. sincerely hoping I've all this wrong, but ....[/p][/quote]You have it right . Koeman had very few options , he has a poor record and no top teams were interested . It was either stay at feyenoord or double /triple his wages coming to Southampton . No one who understands football rates koeman more than pochettino . ....but many have deluded themselves into doing so jasons odd
  • Score: 4

2:55pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden.

We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs.

Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st.
This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season.
Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue.

All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands,
If your anxious and.......
And, I expect you are gleefully hoping to be able say, "I told you so!"come 31st August.
********************

********************

****


Not in the slightest RS, I hate what is happening, but I was never in denial about it happening.
All those nasty Journalists who published stories about the sale of our best players were mostly right in the end, but you all thought they were just making things up to get at our club.

It really wasn't difficult to call this right, but the rose tinted specs have to be removed first and then, all will become much clearer.
Some of you happy clappers should try this, it makes being a saints fan a little easier during tough times.
Ask yourself this, if Koeman is rated higher than Pochettino, why is the latter earning 4x what Big Ron is getting........ this applies to all the other sold players.
sincerely hoping I've all this wrong, but ....
Maybe, rather than being right all along, those nasty journalists actually knew as little as you and I, but once they had started pushing a certain line, it triggered a domino effect within the playing staff at the club. Maybe, the really nasty boys here were Brenda and his bosses (and their like at Spuds and Manure) who, perhaps, fed the journos the idea that Saints players were ready to leave in their droves, while tapping up the players. Maybe that nasty little NC contacted the Brenda bunch et al and stirred them into stirring the media, who then stirred the Saints players. Maybe the FA felt that having a smaller, provincial club gatecrashing the big teams' show was not on, so they stirred that nasty little NC, who stirred the Brenda bunch, who stirred the media, who stirred the Saints players .........

The trouble is, you don't know one way or the other and neither do I.

What we can agree on is that it would have been better if all the players had stayed, the club had made a few decent signings and we had pushed on. Alas, that hasn't happened and the board must take some responsibility for it. Where we differ is in just how much the board could have done and, thus, the degree to which it is their fault.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden. We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs. Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st. This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season. Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue. All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands, If your anxious and.......[/p][/quote]And, I expect you are gleefully hoping to be able say, "I told you so!"come 31st August.[/p][/quote]******************** ******************** **** Not in the slightest RS, I hate what is happening, but I was never in denial about it happening. All those nasty Journalists who published stories about the sale of our best players were mostly right in the end, but you all thought they were just making things up to get at our club. It really wasn't difficult to call this right, but the rose tinted specs have to be removed first and then, all will become much clearer. Some of you happy clappers should try this, it makes being a saints fan a little easier during tough times. Ask yourself this, if Koeman is rated higher than Pochettino, why is the latter earning 4x what Big Ron is getting........ this applies to all the other sold players. sincerely hoping I've all this wrong, but ....[/p][/quote]Maybe, rather than being right all along, those nasty journalists actually knew as little as you and I, but once they had started pushing a certain line, it triggered a domino effect within the playing staff at the club. Maybe, the really nasty boys here were Brenda and his bosses (and their like at Spuds and Manure) who, perhaps, fed the journos the idea that Saints players were ready to leave in their droves, while tapping up the players. Maybe that nasty little NC contacted the Brenda bunch et al and stirred them into stirring the media, who then stirred the Saints players. Maybe the FA felt that having a smaller, provincial club gatecrashing the big teams' show was not on, so they stirred that nasty little NC, who stirred the Brenda bunch, who stirred the media, who stirred the Saints players ......... The trouble is, you don't know one way or the other and neither do I. What we can agree on is that it would have been better if all the players had stayed, the club had made a few decent signings and we had pushed on. Alas, that hasn't happened and the board must take some responsibility for it. Where we differ is in just how much the board could have done and, thus, the degree to which it is their fault. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 0

3:01pm Mon 21 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Knackers wrote:
Chipmonk1 wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down.

Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m.

Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January.

Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these.

If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago.

So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with.

I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing.

It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team.

There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying.
They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce.

The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !!

Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club.

I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON !
Why do you want a statement ??

It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer .
Careful what you say.Knackers, someone will accuse you of being a ****, which is what has happened to me on the other section.
Not sure if you have been following echo 1948 but 2sh$#s & Knackers are the same person
If you offer a negative post you either get called a skate or another poster.
Why am I Sammy? Because you don't like what I have posted.you are a rather sad individual.
absolutely wrong! if you offer a negative post it will be debated with differing opinions given and facts will be presented as evidence, where appropriate, to prove you wrong, or there will be an agreement to disagree respectfully.

however if you continually post drivel and false facts in a negative way people will rightly get annoyed and let you know.

take sammynobrains and all his other logins, which you are possibly one of. he/she/it is a self confessed wind up merchant who has continually tried to annoy people on here. he/she/it has admitted that the steve bruce manager or I`ll never post again carp was a wind up, a `joke` which he/she/it claims was very funny. well a lot of saints fans were waiting for news on who our manager would be and that wasn't the time to wum the fans! how can we ever believe a word that he/she/it types again? a season ticket holder who lives in the magical land of oz and gets to a couple of games a season, while his/her/its `brother` uses his/her/its ticket for the rest of the time. so a `fan` who is willing to spend several hundred pounds to use a ticket a couple of times and then is happy to risk losing the ticket and money spent on it by breaking one of the major rules by letting someone else borrow it!
ask sammynobrains to quantify any of his/her/its negative posts about the club and all you get back is abuse! I have told him/her/it that if he/she/it wants to prove that he/she/it is a real fan then just join the echo saints forum on facebook. a forum that was setup by a few of the regular posters on here to arrange meetings and lifts to games etc. you have to prove you are a fan to join, which is why that forum rarely gets all the nonsense that this site has been infected with. we all know who the wums and fishy people are and know they aren't real fans. why any fishy fecker would want to pretend o be a saints fan is beyond me. if you support the fish be proud of it, you will even get the respect of many of the real saints fans who have been using this site for years! I suppose being in the basement of the football leagues with no hope of returning to the prem whilst your far superior rivals are flying high will lead to all sorts of envy and jealousy and make you do all sort of strange things, whatever sinks your fishy boat!
we all know that sammynobrains is playing with the votes and giving itself loads of thumbs up whilst voting down the genuine posters, its so obvious its just sad. what thrill it gets I don't know but a long as it keeps it off of the streets I suppose it makes them a safer place for normal sane people.
[quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down. Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m. Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January. Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these. If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago. So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with. I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing. It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team. There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying. They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce. The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !! Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club. I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON ![/p][/quote]Why do you want a statement ?? It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer .[/p][/quote]Careful what you say.Knackers, someone will accuse you of being a ****, which is what has happened to me on the other section.[/p][/quote]Not sure if you have been following echo 1948 but 2sh$#s & Knackers are the same person[/p][/quote]If you offer a negative post you either get called a skate or another poster. Why am I Sammy? Because you don't like what I have posted.you are a rather sad individual.[/p][/quote]absolutely wrong! if you offer a negative post it will be debated with differing opinions given and facts will be presented as evidence, where appropriate, to prove you wrong, or there will be an agreement to disagree respectfully. however if you continually post drivel and false facts in a negative way people will rightly get annoyed and let you know. take sammynobrains and all his other logins, which you are possibly one of. he/she/it is a self confessed wind up merchant who has continually tried to annoy people on here. he/she/it has admitted that the steve bruce manager or I`ll never post again carp was a wind up, a `joke` which he/she/it claims was very funny. well a lot of saints fans were waiting for news on who our manager would be and that wasn't the time to wum the fans! how can we ever believe a word that he/she/it types again? a season ticket holder who lives in the magical land of oz and gets to a couple of games a season, while his/her/its `brother` uses his/her/its ticket for the rest of the time. so a `fan` who is willing to spend several hundred pounds to use a ticket a couple of times and then is happy to risk losing the ticket and money spent on it by breaking one of the major rules by letting someone else borrow it! ask sammynobrains to quantify any of his/her/its negative posts about the club and all you get back is abuse! I have told him/her/it that if he/she/it wants to prove that he/she/it is a real fan then just join the echo saints forum on facebook. a forum that was setup by a few of the regular posters on here to arrange meetings and lifts to games etc. you have to prove you are a fan to join, which is why that forum rarely gets all the nonsense that this site has been infected with. we all know who the wums and fishy people are and know they aren't real fans. why any fishy fecker would want to pretend o be a saints fan is beyond me. if you support the fish be proud of it, you will even get the respect of many of the real saints fans who have been using this site for years! I suppose being in the basement of the football leagues with no hope of returning to the prem whilst your far superior rivals are flying high will lead to all sorts of envy and jealousy and make you do all sort of strange things, whatever sinks your fishy boat! we all know that sammynobrains is playing with the votes and giving itself loads of thumbs up whilst voting down the genuine posters, its so obvious its just sad. what thrill it gets I don't know but a long as it keeps it off of the streets I suppose it makes them a safer place for normal sane people. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: -13

3:01pm Mon 21 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down.

Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m.

Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January.

Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these.

If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago.

So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with.

I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing.

It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team.

There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying.
They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce.

The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !!

Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club.

I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON !
Why do you want a statement ??

It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer .
Careful what you say.Knackers, someone will accuse you of being a ****, which is what has happened to me on the other section.
Not sure if you have been following echo 1948 but 2sh$#s & Knackers are the same person
Of course I have been following. If I was a skate you won,t have to ask that question.
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down. Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m. Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January. Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these. If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago. So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with. I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing. It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team. There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying. They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce. The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !! Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club. I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON ![/p][/quote]Why do you want a statement ?? It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer .[/p][/quote]Careful what you say.Knackers, someone will accuse you of being a ****, which is what has happened to me on the other section.[/p][/quote]Not sure if you have been following echo 1948 but 2sh$#s & Knackers are the same person[/p][/quote]Of course I have been following. If I was a skate you won,t have to ask that question. echo1948
  • Score: 3

3:08pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden.

We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs.

Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st.
This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season.
Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue.

All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands,
If your anxious and.......
And, I expect you are gleefully hoping to be able say, "I told you so!"come 31st August.
********************


********************


****


Not in the slightest RS, I hate what is happening, but I was never in denial about it happening.
All those nasty Journalists who published stories about the sale of our best players were mostly right in the end, but you all thought they were just making things up to get at our club.

It really wasn't difficult to call this right, but the rose tinted specs have to be removed first and then, all will become much clearer.
Some of you happy clappers should try this, it makes being a saints fan a little easier during tough times.
Ask yourself this, if Koeman is rated higher than Pochettino, why is the latter earning 4x what Big Ron is getting........ this applies to all the other sold players.
sincerely hoping I've all this wrong, but ....
Maybe, rather than being right all along, those nasty journalists actually knew as little as you and I, but once they had started pushing a certain line, it triggered a domino effect within the playing staff at the club. Maybe, the really nasty boys here were Brenda and his bosses (and their like at Spuds and Manure) who, perhaps, fed the journos the idea that Saints players were ready to leave in their droves, while tapping up the players. Maybe that nasty little NC contacted the Brenda bunch et al and stirred them into stirring the media, who then stirred the Saints players. Maybe the FA felt that having a smaller, provincial club gatecrashing the big teams' show was not on, so they stirred that nasty little NC, who stirred the Brenda bunch, who stirred the media, who stirred the Saints players .........

The trouble is, you don't know one way or the other and neither do I.

What we can agree on is that it would have been better if all the players had stayed, the club had made a few decent signings and we had pushed on. Alas, that hasn't happened and the board must take some responsibility for it. Where we differ is in just how much the board could have done and, thus, the degree to which it is their fault.
Some people like to find scapegoats (justified or not). It seems to give them some kind of satisfaction, just like it does to lynch mobs
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden. We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs. Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st. This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season. Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue. All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands, If your anxious and.......[/p][/quote]And, I expect you are gleefully hoping to be able say, "I told you so!"come 31st August.[/p][/quote]******************** ******************** **** Not in the slightest RS, I hate what is happening, but I was never in denial about it happening. All those nasty Journalists who published stories about the sale of our best players were mostly right in the end, but you all thought they were just making things up to get at our club. It really wasn't difficult to call this right, but the rose tinted specs have to be removed first and then, all will become much clearer. Some of you happy clappers should try this, it makes being a saints fan a little easier during tough times. Ask yourself this, if Koeman is rated higher than Pochettino, why is the latter earning 4x what Big Ron is getting........ this applies to all the other sold players. sincerely hoping I've all this wrong, but ....[/p][/quote]Maybe, rather than being right all along, those nasty journalists actually knew as little as you and I, but once they had started pushing a certain line, it triggered a domino effect within the playing staff at the club. Maybe, the really nasty boys here were Brenda and his bosses (and their like at Spuds and Manure) who, perhaps, fed the journos the idea that Saints players were ready to leave in their droves, while tapping up the players. Maybe that nasty little NC contacted the Brenda bunch et al and stirred them into stirring the media, who then stirred the Saints players. Maybe the FA felt that having a smaller, provincial club gatecrashing the big teams' show was not on, so they stirred that nasty little NC, who stirred the Brenda bunch, who stirred the media, who stirred the Saints players ......... The trouble is, you don't know one way or the other and neither do I. What we can agree on is that it would have been better if all the players had stayed, the club had made a few decent signings and we had pushed on. Alas, that hasn't happened and the board must take some responsibility for it. Where we differ is in just how much the board could have done and, thus, the degree to which it is their fault.[/p][/quote]Some people like to find scapegoats (justified or not). It seems to give them some kind of satisfaction, just like it does to lynch mobs Rising_Son
  • Score: -5

3:34pm Mon 21 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Saintjock wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden. We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs. Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st. This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season. Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue. All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands, If your anxious and.......
Huge crisis eh? What did you call our predicament five years ago then - you must have thought Apocalypse or Armageddon didn't go far enough. Just grow a pair girls, and stop your clucking, please.
Saint jock, glad you think everything is ok.
Deep down you must realise we might have a bit of a problem.
Why do you think he thinks everything is ok? All he seems to be saying is that he doesn't think it's as bad as when we nearly went bankrupt five years ago. Of course, it's your right to do disagree with that, but I should think a lot of people would seriously question your judgement (or maybe even your intelligence).
Thought for one moment we were having a grown up football debate about our club, but alas, once again you have to resort to insults.
Talk to someone else RS.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintjock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden. We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs. Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st. This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season. Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue. All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands, If your anxious and.......[/p][/quote]Huge crisis eh? What did you call our predicament five years ago then - you must have thought Apocalypse or Armageddon didn't go far enough. Just grow a pair girls, and stop your clucking, please.[/p][/quote]Saint jock, glad you think everything is ok. Deep down you must realise we might have a bit of a problem.[/p][/quote]Why do you think he thinks everything is ok? All he seems to be saying is that he doesn't think it's as bad as when we nearly went bankrupt five years ago. Of course, it's your right to do disagree with that, but I should think a lot of people would seriously question your judgement (or maybe even your intelligence).[/p][/quote]Thought for one moment we were having a grown up football debate about our club, but alas, once again you have to resort to insults. Talk to someone else RS. costa gaz
  • Score: 4

3:38pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Saintjock wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden. We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs. Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st. This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season. Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue. All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands, If your anxious and.......
Huge crisis eh? What did you call our predicament five years ago then - you must have thought Apocalypse or Armageddon didn't go far enough. Just grow a pair girls, and stop your clucking, please.
Saint jock, glad you think everything is ok.
Deep down you must realise we might have a bit of a problem.
Why do you think he thinks everything is ok? All he seems to be saying is that he doesn't think it's as bad as when we nearly went bankrupt five years ago. Of course, it's your right to do disagree with that, but I should think a lot of people would seriously question your judgement (or maybe even your intelligence).
Thought for one moment we were having a grown up football debate about our club, but alas, once again you have to resort to insults.
Talk to someone else RS.
What insult?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintjock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden. We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs. Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st. This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season. Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue. All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands, If your anxious and.......[/p][/quote]Huge crisis eh? What did you call our predicament five years ago then - you must have thought Apocalypse or Armageddon didn't go far enough. Just grow a pair girls, and stop your clucking, please.[/p][/quote]Saint jock, glad you think everything is ok. Deep down you must realise we might have a bit of a problem.[/p][/quote]Why do you think he thinks everything is ok? All he seems to be saying is that he doesn't think it's as bad as when we nearly went bankrupt five years ago. Of course, it's your right to do disagree with that, but I should think a lot of people would seriously question your judgement (or maybe even your intelligence).[/p][/quote]Thought for one moment we were having a grown up football debate about our club, but alas, once again you have to resort to insults. Talk to someone else RS.[/p][/quote]What insult? Rising_Son
  • Score: -2

4:59pm Mon 21 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
Freddie and Les are not the ones to be making any sort of statements. They should be silent, doing their work in the background where nobody sees or hears them. The face of any club are the managers therefore the only people making regular statements are the Rambo brothers. Only on rare occasions should a chairman or anyone else in a club even be seen. You claim to be a football fan and you don't seem to have grasped anything really Samuel - you are a very disappointing amoeba indeed.
Yeah les and Ralph have been silently selling off the first team in the background.
And that's exactly where all the wheeling and dealing should be done muppet. It only gets talked about when it's a done deal or there is something to talk about.

Get it into your dense skull - If a player wants to go, he will go, especially when that player knows there are bigger fish than Saints wanting him. Slag off anyone you want and it won't alter that basic fact. All the other players in the game can only try to work out what is best in the long term for the club. Nobody in this club from the very top down to us, the mugs who pay the bills, wanted anybody other than Osvaldo gone, but the fact is whatever started this rot, AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS ANY MORE THAN I DO, has ripped the guts out of this team but not the heart and we now have a major rebuilding job to do. You can make your mind up to snipe and **** or support - your choice. I'd rather see you in a Pimpey crowd than ours because I haven't seen anything constructive or positive come from your poisoned little mind yet.
This season is going to be an exciting roller coaster ride - can't wait.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]Freddie and Les are not the ones to be making any sort of statements. They should be silent, doing their work in the background where nobody sees or hears them. The face of any club are the managers therefore the only people making regular statements are the Rambo brothers. Only on rare occasions should a chairman or anyone else in a club even be seen. You claim to be a football fan and you don't seem to have grasped anything really Samuel - you are a very disappointing amoeba indeed.[/p][/quote]Yeah les and Ralph have been silently selling off the first team in the background.[/p][/quote]And that's exactly where all the wheeling and dealing should be done muppet. It only gets talked about when it's a done deal or there is something to talk about. Get it into your dense skull - If a player wants to go, he will go, especially when that player knows there are bigger fish than Saints wanting him. Slag off anyone you want and it won't alter that basic fact. All the other players in the game can only try to work out what is best in the long term for the club. Nobody in this club from the very top down to us, the mugs who pay the bills, wanted anybody other than Osvaldo gone, but the fact is whatever started this rot, AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS ANY MORE THAN I DO, has ripped the guts out of this team but not the heart and we now have a major rebuilding job to do. You can make your mind up to snipe and **** or support - your choice. I'd rather see you in a Pimpey crowd than ours because I haven't seen anything constructive or positive come from your poisoned little mind yet. This season is going to be an exciting roller coaster ride - can't wait. jls217
  • Score: -8

5:06pm Mon 21 Jul 14

saintgibbo says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It is bad enough being swamped by the neggies and now we are plagued with spam messages, a word of advice, the DE will remove the offending posts, but if you use the quote function, you will perpetuate them, best to report and ignor them, do not quote them, thanks. (That includes the spam messages!)
Sorry ospers. Consider myself told off. :-(
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: It is bad enough being swamped by the neggies and now we are plagued with spam messages, a word of advice, the DE will remove the offending posts, but if you use the quote function, you will perpetuate them, best to report and ignor them, do not quote them, thanks. (That includes the spam messages!)[/p][/quote]Sorry ospers. Consider myself told off. :-( saintgibbo
  • Score: 1

5:23pm Mon 21 Jul 14

N Ireland Saint says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
RoseGarrett wrote:
my aunty recently purchased a nearly new gold BMW M6 Convertible by working parttime off of a home computer. view

====>>>>

> x.co/565vj
You fibber!!!
Was the special edition one by Corgi
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoseGarrett[/bold] wrote: my aunty recently purchased a nearly new gold BMW M6 Convertible by working parttime off of a home computer. view ====>>>> > x.co/565vj[/p][/quote]You fibber!!![/p][/quote]Was the special edition one by Corgi N Ireland Saint
  • Score: -1

6:06pm Mon 21 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

costa gaz wrote:
All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden.

We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs.

Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st.
This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season.
Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue.

All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands,
If your anxious and.......
Gaz I don't call you a wum, I actually have quite a bit of time for most of your comments but you have really let yourself down with this one!
why is your OPINION any more real than mine? I don't think anyne has said that `everything is rosy in the garden` that's just a stupid childish comment to make! I don't think a single fan is happy with whats gone on, though I wouldn't call it a `huge crisis`. when we were hours from going out o existence was a `huge crisis`, this is a very difficult situation, but one that the club can get through.
I don't know if some players are better than others but I will have a fair idea after the end of the season.
what has `really` happened is a bunch of players, who finished 8th in the league, suddenly believe they should be playing in the champs league and cant be bothered to earn that spot so they have just jumped ship, mostly to a team who have been very aggressive in their approaches for them. the players were sold a lie by the great and wonderful NC he old them he would get the club into the champs league in a year or 2, never possible unless we spend £200mill+. KL still has ambition for the club, and is not asset stripping, but it looks like she has pulled back a bit on the timescale, 2yrs was never achievable no mater what people think. NC made promises he could never keep and the players fell for it. that's not `red and white tinted glasses` that's whats REAL. you can blame anyone you like, looks like people think les reed is at fault and isn't up to his job, the same les reed who had been doing the same job for 4yrs without any name calling or outright character assassination, so why after 4yrs is he suddenly incapable of doing the same job? people see whats happened and like you have jumped to your own conclusions. as I said its YOUR OPINION and doesn't make it right just because you say it is! as someone else said, your desperate to be proven right so you can say `told you so`, you have done it already, claiming that you saw this coming a long time ago and you were right all along! we all knew certain players would be going this summer but hoped they would stay so why all the panic and shouting down others? if you saw it coming then its no surprise to you.
I still think we will bring in some exciting new players and a manager with a better record turning up than MP did when he turned up, he also had a far better playing career and talks English! supporting the club means you want to finish above both diverpooh and spuds, its a natural reaction and just because you type it doesn't mean you think it will happen, but that's what supporters do, they support the club through thick and thin!
all together if your neggie and you know it pooh your pans, I our neggie and you know it pooh your pants!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: All these happy clappers are a bunch of WUMS, trying to tell the realists among us that everything is rosy in the garden. We are in the middle of a huge crisis and all we hear is that Tadic is better than Lallana, Pelle is better than Lambert, Targett is better than Shaw, Koeman is better than Pochettino, were gonna finish higher than Liverpool and Spurs. Things are far from rosy in the garden and there will be worse to come before Aug 31st. This is no wind up, just a touch of reality for those who still think we will be as good, if not better than last season. Luckily there will still be around 7 or 8 teams worse than us, so relegation will not be an issue. All together now: If your anxious and you know it clasp your hands, If your anxious and.......[/p][/quote]Gaz I don't call you a wum, I actually have quite a bit of time for most of your comments but you have really let yourself down with this one! why is your OPINION any more real than mine? I don't think anyne has said that `everything is rosy in the garden` that's just a stupid childish comment to make! I don't think a single fan is happy with whats gone on, though I wouldn't call it a `huge crisis`. when we were hours from going out o existence was a `huge crisis`, this is a very difficult situation, but one that the club can get through. I don't know if some players are better than others but I will have a fair idea after the end of the season. what has `really` happened is a bunch of players, who finished 8th in the league, suddenly believe they should be playing in the champs league and cant be bothered to earn that spot so they have just jumped ship, mostly to a team who have been very aggressive in their approaches for them. the players were sold a lie by the great and wonderful NC he old them he would get the club into the champs league in a year or 2, never possible unless we spend £200mill+. KL still has ambition for the club, and is not asset stripping, but it looks like she has pulled back a bit on the timescale, 2yrs was never achievable no mater what people think. NC made promises he could never keep and the players fell for it. that's not `red and white tinted glasses` that's whats REAL. you can blame anyone you like, looks like people think les reed is at fault and isn't up to his job, the same les reed who had been doing the same job for 4yrs without any name calling or outright character assassination, so why after 4yrs is he suddenly incapable of doing the same job? people see whats happened and like you have jumped to your own conclusions. as I said its YOUR OPINION and doesn't make it right just because you say it is! as someone else said, your desperate to be proven right so you can say `told you so`, you have done it already, claiming that you saw this coming a long time ago and you were right all along! we all knew certain players would be going this summer but hoped they would stay so why all the panic and shouting down others? if you saw it coming then its no surprise to you. I still think we will bring in some exciting new players and a manager with a better record turning up than MP did when he turned up, he also had a far better playing career and talks English! supporting the club means you want to finish above both diverpooh and spuds, its a natural reaction and just because you type it doesn't mean you think it will happen, but that's what supporters do, they support the club through thick and thin! all together if your neggie and you know it pooh your pans, I our neggie and you know it pooh your pants! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: -11

6:31pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Gormzzz says...

Benalli probably knows about as much about Targett as we do, if not less. He's been banned from the ground for god knows how long. I really hope he does live up to the hype but I can't really see him emulating Shaw in any way, we needed somebody to play a few games at LB last season, he didn't get a chance like most of our other young players.
Benalli probably knows about as much about Targett as we do, if not less. He's been banned from the ground for god knows how long. I really hope he does live up to the hype but I can't really see him emulating Shaw in any way, we needed somebody to play a few games at LB last season, he didn't get a chance like most of our other young players. Gormzzz
  • Score: 0

6:31pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Gormzzz says...

Not being 'negative' just stating the obvious, hope he is great.
Not being 'negative' just stating the obvious, hope he is great. Gormzzz
  • Score: 1

7:25pm Mon 21 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Gormzzz wrote:
Benalli probably knows about as much about Targett as we do, if not less. He's been banned from the ground for god knows how long. I really hope he does live up to the hype but I can't really see him emulating Shaw in any way, we needed somebody to play a few games at LB last season, he didn't get a chance like most of our other young players.
`shows how much you know.
real saints fans know that benali was welcomed back to the club/ground earlier this year and has been to many games in the second half of the season! he even did an interview inside sms last week with le god when he was talking about his challenge of running between every prem ground.
as I said REAL saints fans know this. sad little WUMs who use multiple logins don't bother to read stories like that because they are good news.
ok Sammynobrains you got caught out there, best go back to your beachside oz villa with the tin man and scarecrow!
watch out for flying monkeys
enjoy Exeter!
[quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: Benalli probably knows about as much about Targett as we do, if not less. He's been banned from the ground for god knows how long. I really hope he does live up to the hype but I can't really see him emulating Shaw in any way, we needed somebody to play a few games at LB last season, he didn't get a chance like most of our other young players.[/p][/quote]`shows how much you know. real saints fans know that benali was welcomed back to the club/ground earlier this year and has been to many games in the second half of the season! he even did an interview inside sms last week with le god when he was talking about his challenge of running between every prem ground. as I said REAL saints fans know this. sad little WUMs who use multiple logins don't bother to read stories like that because they are good news. ok Sammynobrains you got caught out there, best go back to your beachside oz villa with the tin man and scarecrow! watch out for flying monkeys enjoy Exeter! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: -10

7:55pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Gormzzz says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Gormzzz wrote:
Benalli probably knows about as much about Targett as we do, if not less. He's been banned from the ground for god knows how long. I really hope he does live up to the hype but I can't really see him emulating Shaw in any way, we needed somebody to play a few games at LB last season, he didn't get a chance like most of our other young players.
`shows how much you know.
real saints fans know that benali was welcomed back to the club/ground earlier this year and has been to many games in the second half of the season! he even did an interview inside sms last week with le god when he was talking about his challenge of running between every prem ground.
as I said REAL saints fans know this. sad little WUMs who use multiple logins don't bother to read stories like that because they are good news.
ok Sammynobrains you got caught out there, best go back to your beachside oz villa with the tin man and scarecrow!
watch out for flying monkeys
enjoy Exeter!
How many of those games did Targett play in???????????? Shows how much you know!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: Benalli probably knows about as much about Targett as we do, if not less. He's been banned from the ground for god knows how long. I really hope he does live up to the hype but I can't really see him emulating Shaw in any way, we needed somebody to play a few games at LB last season, he didn't get a chance like most of our other young players.[/p][/quote]`shows how much you know. real saints fans know that benali was welcomed back to the club/ground earlier this year and has been to many games in the second half of the season! he even did an interview inside sms last week with le god when he was talking about his challenge of running between every prem ground. as I said REAL saints fans know this. sad little WUMs who use multiple logins don't bother to read stories like that because they are good news. ok Sammynobrains you got caught out there, best go back to your beachside oz villa with the tin man and scarecrow! watch out for flying monkeys enjoy Exeter![/p][/quote]How many of those games did Targett play in???????????? Shows how much you know!!!!!!!!!! Gormzzz
  • Score: 5

7:58pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Gormzzz says...

And this is my only log in for that matter. I just happen to be an actual Saints fan who knows a lot about the club and always wants to see it succeed, not just an internet goon like some people out there are you on the board with Osprey too then Mr Krueger???? Yeah everybody knew he was welcomed back, I'm talking about the time before that, when Targett was actually coming through the youth ranks???? And how many times did he watch him play first team football last season to be so sure???? I'm absolutely killing you lot, one man knows more about football and the saints than 5. Pretty proud!
And this is my only log in for that matter. I just happen to be an actual Saints fan who knows a lot about the club and always wants to see it succeed, not just an internet goon like some people out there are you on the board with Osprey too then Mr Krueger???? Yeah everybody knew he was welcomed back, I'm talking about the time before that, when Targett was actually coming through the youth ranks???? And how many times did he watch him play first team football last season to be so sure???? I'm absolutely killing you lot, one man knows more about football and the saints than 5. Pretty proud! Gormzzz
  • Score: 2

9:05pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Gormzzz says...

You stopped keyboard basing pretty quickly today de Helligen, it is pretty difficult going against a superior on your own isn't it, you definitely talk a lot more trash when you've got your 6 Daily Echo net buddies defending you. You Reed, Liebherr and Krueger should make a statement anyway rather than making a few fake accounts to make the true fans feel better about whats happening.
You stopped keyboard basing pretty quickly today de Helligen, it is pretty difficult going against a superior on your own isn't it, you definitely talk a lot more trash when you've got your 6 Daily Echo net buddies defending you. You Reed, Liebherr and Krueger should make a statement anyway rather than making a few fake accounts to make the true fans feel better about whats happening. Gormzzz
  • Score: 2

10:26pm Mon 21 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintgibbo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It is bad enough being swamped by the neggies and now we are plagued with spam messages, a word of advice, the DE will remove the offending posts, but if you use the quote function, you will perpetuate them, best to report and ignor them, do not quote them, thanks. (That includes the spam messages!)
Sorry ospers. Consider myself told off. :-(
Forgiven, please don't do it again :o ) lol
[quote][p][bold]saintgibbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: It is bad enough being swamped by the neggies and now we are plagued with spam messages, a word of advice, the DE will remove the offending posts, but if you use the quote function, you will perpetuate them, best to report and ignor them, do not quote them, thanks. (That includes the spam messages!)[/p][/quote]Sorry ospers. Consider myself told off. :-([/p][/quote]Forgiven, please don't do it again :o ) lol OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

11:37pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

jls217 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wallace and gromit are very quiet.
A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.
Freddie and Les are not the ones to be making any sort of statements. They should be silent, doing their work in the background where nobody sees or hears them. The face of any club are the managers therefore the only people making regular statements are the Rambo brothers. Only on rare occasions should a chairman or anyone else in a club even be seen. You claim to be a football fan and you don't seem to have grasped anything really Samuel - you are a very disappointing amoeba indeed.
Yeah les and Ralph have been silently selling off the first team in the background.
And that's exactly where all the wheeling and dealing should be done muppet. It only gets talked about when it's a done deal or there is something to talk about.

Get it into your dense skull - If a player wants to go, he will go, especially when that player knows there are bigger fish than Saints wanting him. Slag off anyone you want and it won't alter that basic fact. All the other players in the game can only try to work out what is best in the long term for the club. Nobody in this club from the very top down to us, the mugs who pay the bills, wanted anybody other than Osvaldo gone, but the fact is whatever started this rot, AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS ANY MORE THAN I DO, has ripped the guts out of this team but not the heart and we now have a major rebuilding job to do. You can make your mind up to snipe and **** or support - your choice. I'd rather see you in a Pimpey crowd than ours because I haven't seen anything constructive or positive come from your poisoned little mind yet.
This season is going to be an exciting roller coaster ride - can't wait.
Relax jls your ranting.dont get so angry when you are beaten by superior intellect.just take it on the chin and move on.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wallace and gromit are very quiet. A statement from les or Ralph wouldn't go amiss.too busy organising Dejans exit paperwork.hey les what say we concentrate on incoming transfers for a while.we have given most of the pre season time to outgoing players agents so let's just focus on what's best for southampton football club for a while.what say you make another bid for Redmond? Say 3.6 this time? Don't wanna spend too much of kats money do we.[/p][/quote]Freddie and Les are not the ones to be making any sort of statements. They should be silent, doing their work in the background where nobody sees or hears them. The face of any club are the managers therefore the only people making regular statements are the Rambo brothers. Only on rare occasions should a chairman or anyone else in a club even be seen. You claim to be a football fan and you don't seem to have grasped anything really Samuel - you are a very disappointing amoeba indeed.[/p][/quote]Yeah les and Ralph have been silently selling off the first team in the background.[/p][/quote]And that's exactly where all the wheeling and dealing should be done muppet. It only gets talked about when it's a done deal or there is something to talk about. Get it into your dense skull - If a player wants to go, he will go, especially when that player knows there are bigger fish than Saints wanting him. Slag off anyone you want and it won't alter that basic fact. All the other players in the game can only try to work out what is best in the long term for the club. Nobody in this club from the very top down to us, the mugs who pay the bills, wanted anybody other than Osvaldo gone, but the fact is whatever started this rot, AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS ANY MORE THAN I DO, has ripped the guts out of this team but not the heart and we now have a major rebuilding job to do. You can make your mind up to snipe and **** or support - your choice. I'd rather see you in a Pimpey crowd than ours because I haven't seen anything constructive or positive come from your poisoned little mind yet. This season is going to be an exciting roller coaster ride - can't wait.[/p][/quote]Relax jls your ranting.dont get so angry when you are beaten by superior intellect.just take it on the chin and move on. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -5

11:46pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Knackers wrote:
Chipmonk1 wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down.

Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m.

Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January.

Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these.

If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago.

So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with.

I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing.

It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team.

There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying.
They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce.

The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !!

Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club.

I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON !
Why do you want a statement ??

It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer .
Careful what you say.Knackers, someone will accuse you of being a ****, which is what has happened to me on the other section.
Not sure if you have been following echo 1948 but 2sh$#s & Knackers are the same person
If you offer a negative post you either get called a skate or another poster.
Why am I Sammy? Because you don't like what I have posted.you are a rather sad individual.
absolutely wrong! if you offer a negative post it will be debated with differing opinions given and facts will be presented as evidence, where appropriate, to prove you wrong, or there will be an agreement to disagree respectfully.

however if you continually post drivel and false facts in a negative way people will rightly get annoyed and let you know.

take sammynobrains and all his other logins, which you are possibly one of. he/she/it is a self confessed wind up merchant who has continually tried to annoy people on here. he/she/it has admitted that the steve bruce manager or I`ll never post again carp was a wind up, a `joke` which he/she/it claims was very funny. well a lot of saints fans were waiting for news on who our manager would be and that wasn't the time to wum the fans! how can we ever believe a word that he/she/it types again? a season ticket holder who lives in the magical land of oz and gets to a couple of games a season, while his/her/its `brother` uses his/her/its ticket for the rest of the time. so a `fan` who is willing to spend several hundred pounds to use a ticket a couple of times and then is happy to risk losing the ticket and money spent on it by breaking one of the major rules by letting someone else borrow it!
ask sammynobrains to quantify any of his/her/its negative posts about the club and all you get back is abuse! I have told him/her/it that if he/she/it wants to prove that he/she/it is a real fan then just join the echo saints forum on facebook. a forum that was setup by a few of the regular posters on here to arrange meetings and lifts to games etc. you have to prove you are a fan to join, which is why that forum rarely gets all the nonsense that this site has been infected with. we all know who the wums and fishy people are and know they aren't real fans. why any fishy fecker would want to pretend o be a saints fan is beyond me. if you support the fish be proud of it, you will even get the respect of many of the real saints fans who have been using this site for years! I suppose being in the basement of the football leagues with no hope of returning to the prem whilst your far superior rivals are flying high will lead to all sorts of envy and jealousy and make you do all sort of strange things, whatever sinks your fishy boat!
we all know that sammynobrains is playing with the votes and giving itself loads of thumbs up whilst voting down the genuine posters, its so obvious its just sad. what thrill it gets I don't know but a long as it keeps it off of the streets I suppose it makes them a safer place for normal sane people.
Zzzzzx oh have you finished?
On several points you are wrong.when I come over in a couple of weeks I will buy a cheap mobile and post the number on here and we can arrange to meet if you don't think I am a saints fan.i will even buy you a drink.i don't do Facebook at all,never have done.try to calm down and be more incisive when you write,your posts are too long and I get bored.
I do not touch the thumbs system,people must just hate you.
This is not your site.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knackers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Just heard that Lovren move to Liverhampton is being finalized it seems that the only thing in doubt is the fee, as it is believed Saints are now prepared to accept less than the £20m they previously turned down. Also heard Spuds have told MoPo he can compete with Arsenal in a bid for Morgan as Saints only value him at £16m. Further more it is believed that Cork, Chambers, Fonte & Cline may be gone before the window closes on 1st September, plus J-Rod as soon as he can prove his fitness probably in January. Before you all jump on this as being 'rumours' & 'hearsay' please note that all the previous ones have come true so far so why won't these. If Saints had been relegated I could understand all our star players leaving, however we had a really good season, the first on the progression that they all signed up for a year ago. So why the mass exodus ? Even with the good new management team in place they still want out. There is something fundamentally wrong in the club, the lack of a strong leader to start with. I feel sorry for the Koeman Brothers who now have the job of building a side to avoid relegation rather than Europe. Also for Tadic & Pelle who must regret signing. It will be impossible to sign 8 players who are better than those leaving even if we can convince them to come to a club selling not just one or two of its best players but nearly the whole team. There is not even any strong rumours of us trying to sign any better quality players yet, they are too busy selling than buying. They have known what is required long enough and now need a couple of Proven Big Name players to join asap if we are not to become a farce. The silence form Ralph/Les/Board is now deafening !! Can we have a Statement explaining why what Ralph & Les have said previously was total nonsense, please tell us the truth about the future because the current actions make no sense whatsoever, not even if the intention is to sell the club. I ask this again PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON ![/p][/quote]Why do you want a statement ?? It would just be full of more lies to keep the deludes happy for a few weeks longer .[/p][/quote]Careful what you say.Knackers, someone will accuse you of being a ****, which is what has happened to me on the other section.[/p][/quote]Not sure if you have been following echo 1948 but 2sh$#s & Knackers are the same person[/p][/quote]If you offer a negative post you either get called a skate or another poster. Why am I Sammy? Because you don't like what I have posted.you are a rather sad individual.[/p][/quote]absolutely wrong! if you offer a negative post it will be debated with differing opinions given and facts will be presented as evidence, where appropriate, to prove you wrong, or there will be an agreement to disagree respectfully. however if you continually post drivel and false facts in a negative way people will rightly get annoyed and let you know. take sammynobrains and all his other logins, which you are possibly one of. he/she/it is a self confessed wind up merchant who has continually tried to annoy people on here. he/she/it has admitted that the steve bruce manager or I`ll never post again carp was a wind up, a `joke` which he/she/it claims was very funny. well a lot of saints fans were waiting for news on who our manager would be and that wasn't the time to wum the fans! how can we ever believe a word that he/she/it types again? a season ticket holder who lives in the magical land of oz and gets to a couple of games a season, while his/her/its `brother` uses his/her/its ticket for the rest of the time. so a `fan` who is willing to spend several hundred pounds to use a ticket a couple of times and then is happy to risk losing the ticket and money spent on it by breaking one of the major rules by letting someone else borrow it! ask sammynobrains to quantify any of his/her/its negative posts about the club and all you get back is abuse! I have told him/her/it that if he/she/it wants to prove that he/she/it is a real fan then just join the echo saints forum on facebook. a forum that was setup by a few of the regular posters on here to arrange meetings and lifts to games etc. you have to prove you are a fan to join, which is why that forum rarely gets all the nonsense that this site has been infected with. we all know who the wums and fishy people are and know they aren't real fans. why any fishy fecker would want to pretend o be a saints fan is beyond me. if you support the fish be proud of it, you will even get the respect of many of the real saints fans who have been using this site for years! I suppose being in the basement of the football leagues with no hope of returning to the prem whilst your far superior rivals are flying high will lead to all sorts of envy and jealousy and make you do all sort of strange things, whatever sinks your fishy boat! we all know that sammynobrains is playing with the votes and giving itself loads of thumbs up whilst voting down the genuine posters, its so obvious its just sad. what thrill it gets I don't know but a long as it keeps it off of the streets I suppose it makes them a safer place for normal sane people.[/p][/quote]Zzzzzx oh have you finished? On several points you are wrong.when I come over in a couple of weeks I will buy a cheap mobile and post the number on here and we can arrange to meet if you don't think I am a saints fan.i will even buy you a drink.i don't do Facebook at all,never have done.try to calm down and be more incisive when you write,your posts are too long and I get bored. I do not touch the thumbs system,people must just hate you. This is not your site. Sammy2sheds
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