Fee of £20m agreed between Southampton and Liverpool for Dejan Lovren

Lovren fee of £20m agreed between Saints and Liverpool

Lovren fee of £20m agreed between Saints and Liverpool

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Liverpool have agreed a fee believed to be in the region of £20m for Saints defender Dejan Lovren.

The Croatian centre half has long been angling for a move to Anfield, after the Premier League runner-ups' interest in him was revealed.

At one point, he even threatened to not return to Staplewood following the World Cup in a bid to force through the move to Liverpool.

Manger Ronald Koeman said last week that he was prepared to let Lovren go if the Reds met Saints' asking price, as he did not want players at Southampton who did not want to be there.

He will be the third Southampton player to swap the South Coast for the North West this summer, following in the footsteps of Rickie Lambert and Adam Lallana.

In total, Liverpool have paid Saints around £49m for the three players, which is half of the total outlay Brendan Rodgers has put on seven new signings.

Lovren joined Saints from French side Lyon for a fee of £8.5m last summer.

It is understood he will undergo a medical tomorrow before finalising the move.

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5:01pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Graham, North of Watford says...

Time to buy

Oh. Lord, it's time to buy
Time to buy Oh. Lord, it's time to buy Graham, North of Watford
  • Score: 51

5:02pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jasons odd says...

"WE ARE NOT A SELLING CLUB"
"WE ARE NOT A SELLING CLUB" jasons odd
  • Score: 54

5:04pm Fri 25 Jul 14

03alpe01 says...

Another one bites the dust!
Another one bites the dust! 03alpe01
  • Score: 43

5:06pm Fri 25 Jul 14

03alpe01 says...

But don't worry, none of our players are up for sale, there will not be a fire sale, we do not need to sell our best players, we want to keep the core of our players together. All because Les Reed said so.

So don't panic everyone- WE ARE NOT A SELLING CLUB AND DO NOT HAVE TO SELL OUR BEST PLAYERS!!!
But don't worry, none of our players are up for sale, there will not be a fire sale, we do not need to sell our best players, we want to keep the core of our players together. All because Les Reed said so. So don't panic everyone- WE ARE NOT A SELLING CLUB AND DO NOT HAVE TO SELL OUR BEST PLAYERS!!! 03alpe01
  • Score: 46

5:13pm Fri 25 Jul 14

M Clarke says...

So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.
So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change. M Clarke
  • Score: 16

5:14pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Steve_N says...

Ta very much Liverhampton. RoKo now go sign van Dijk and de Vrij for similar money.
Ta very much Liverhampton. RoKo now go sign van Dijk and de Vrij for similar money. Steve_N
  • Score: 49

5:15pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Supersaint90 says...

If sniederlin leaves to, we are as good as down!!
If sniederlin leaves to, we are as good as down!! Supersaint90
  • Score: -8

5:15pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Billy liar says...

Saints. Richest club in championship...
.


R. Soles
Saints. Richest club in championship... . R. Soles Billy liar
  • Score: 16

5:17pm Fri 25 Jul 14

damoose says...

But don't worry, none of our players are up for sale, there will not be a fire sale, we do not need to sell our best players, we want to keep the core of our players together. All because Les Reed said so.

So don't panic everyone- WE ARE NOT A SELLING CLUB AND DO NOT HAVE TO SELL OUR BEST PLAYERS!!!

-----
Dont forget, top players and their agent`s are constantly ringing us
But don't worry, none of our players are up for sale, there will not be a fire sale, we do not need to sell our best players, we want to keep the core of our players together. All because Les Reed said so. So don't panic everyone- WE ARE NOT A SELLING CLUB AND DO NOT HAVE TO SELL OUR BEST PLAYERS!!! ----- Dont forget, top players and their agent`s are constantly ringing us damoose
  • Score: 31

5:19pm Fri 25 Jul 14

the Newmarket Saint says...

We are not a selling club , why would we try to strengthen the opposition we want to beat them not help them to beat us, just listen to uncle Les I am sure he has the clubs interest at heart or somewhere
We are not a selling club , why would we try to strengthen the opposition we want to beat them not help them to beat us, just listen to uncle Les I am sure he has the clubs interest at heart or somewhere the Newmarket Saint
  • Score: 26

5:20pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jasons odd says...

M Clarke wrote:
So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.
Who cares about the money in Ms Liebherrs back pocket , all our best players are being sold . Players of Lovren's quality are impossible to replace .
[quote][p][bold]M Clarke[/bold] wrote: So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.[/p][/quote]Who cares about the money in Ms Liebherrs back pocket , all our best players are being sold . Players of Lovren's quality are impossible to replace . jasons odd
  • Score: 27

5:21pm Fri 25 Jul 14

SaintSherman says...

With a further £20 million in the Southampton bank there is more then enough to replace Lovren. Despite the fact that the time is running out before the season starts it's vital to get in the right players for the right price.
Every player is replaceable especially those with a poor attitude, we go again next season and with Koeman in charge I have full faith he can build a competitive team.
With a further £20 million in the Southampton bank there is more then enough to replace Lovren. Despite the fact that the time is running out before the season starts it's vital to get in the right players for the right price. Every player is replaceable especially those with a poor attitude, we go again next season and with Koeman in charge I have full faith he can build a competitive team. SaintSherman
  • Score: 52

5:23pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Has he gone yet?
Has he gone yet? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -8

5:24pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Andy Welsh says...

I know I'm going to get slated by the handwringers again, but this makes sound business sense. Selling a player who has publicly stated his desire to go, for more than double what we paid for him 12 months ago is a no brainer. I know a lot of you don't believe Saints will reinvest the money. I disagree with you and I believe that the team that starts at Liverpool will have an excellent blend of new players who Koeman wants and want to be here and academy graduates like Ward Prowse, Reed and Targett. We'll just have to wait and see who's right. Let's face it not many of us thought we'd finish 8th in the Premier League five years ago, so stranger things have happened.
I know I'm going to get slated by the handwringers again, but this makes sound business sense. Selling a player who has publicly stated his desire to go, for more than double what we paid for him 12 months ago is a no brainer. I know a lot of you don't believe Saints will reinvest the money. I disagree with you and I believe that the team that starts at Liverpool will have an excellent blend of new players who Koeman wants and want to be here and academy graduates like Ward Prowse, Reed and Targett. We'll just have to wait and see who's right. Let's face it not many of us thought we'd finish 8th in the Premier League five years ago, so stranger things have happened. Andy Welsh
  • Score: 27

5:30pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Forest Saint says...

Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else? Forest Saint
  • Score: -37

5:32pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Epsom Saint says...

jasons odd wrote:
M Clarke wrote:
So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.
Who cares about the money in Ms Liebherrs back pocket , all our best players are being sold . Players of Lovren's quality are impossible to replace .
Difficult to replace, but not impossible. We bought him for 8.5m last year so now we need to unearth the next gem. There will be developing players out there who can step up - the trick is finding them!
[quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M Clarke[/bold] wrote: So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.[/p][/quote]Who cares about the money in Ms Liebherrs back pocket , all our best players are being sold . Players of Lovren's quality are impossible to replace .[/p][/quote]Difficult to replace, but not impossible. We bought him for 8.5m last year so now we need to unearth the next gem. There will be developing players out there who can step up - the trick is finding them! Epsom Saint
  • Score: 6

5:34pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Epsom Saint says...

Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
[quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club. Epsom Saint
  • Score: 58

5:34pm Fri 25 Jul 14

tintin33 says...

Well i suppose the amount we get for this transfer will help us accepting the bitter pill when we learn how much we will lose on osvaldo
Well i suppose the amount we get for this transfer will help us accepting the bitter pill when we learn how much we will lose on osvaldo tintin33
  • Score: 21

5:35pm Fri 25 Jul 14

THE12THMAN says...

Good riddance to the judas tw@t.
Good riddance to the judas tw@t. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 70

5:35pm Fri 25 Jul 14

KSO16R says...

jasons odd wrote:
M Clarke wrote:
So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.
Who cares about the money in Ms Liebherrs back pocket , all our best players are being sold . Players of Lovren's quality are impossible to replace .
'Impossible to replace' poor choice of words
[quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M Clarke[/bold] wrote: So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.[/p][/quote]Who cares about the money in Ms Liebherrs back pocket , all our best players are being sold . Players of Lovren's quality are impossible to replace .[/p][/quote]'Impossible to replace' poor choice of words KSO16R
  • Score: 0

5:36pm Fri 25 Jul 14

KSO16R says...

Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Short memory!
[quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Short memory! KSO16R
  • Score: 6

5:38pm Fri 25 Jul 14

KSO16R says...

More flapping than a flock of seagulls on clarence pier.
More flapping than a flock of seagulls on clarence pier. KSO16R
  • Score: 18

5:39pm Fri 25 Jul 14

bathsaints says...

Was one of our standout players last season. It makes good sense in terms of the fee and we only want players who are committed to the club but what the flip is driving all these players away, surely we have ambition and surely we have a bit of money to pay wages etc so what is it that is driving them away. I hope Big Ron is allowed to splash the cash and 2 good centre backs please...Fonte is a better player alongside a class CB but I wouldn't fancy him and Hoover lining up at anfield in 3 weeks. Come on Les bring in Vlaar and Van Dijk....
Was one of our standout players last season. It makes good sense in terms of the fee and we only want players who are committed to the club but what the flip is driving all these players away, surely we have ambition and surely we have a bit of money to pay wages etc so what is it that is driving them away. I hope Big Ron is allowed to splash the cash and 2 good centre backs please...Fonte is a better player alongside a class CB but I wouldn't fancy him and Hoover lining up at anfield in 3 weeks. Come on Les bring in Vlaar and Van Dijk.... bathsaints
  • Score: 34

5:40pm Fri 25 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

GOOD RIDDANCE ...

SAINTS FANS ... Grow a Pair and do not appalaud the Wantaway Players that have exited our Fine Club - tell them what you really think from the Terraces.

WITH THE £2) MILLION - start investing in Players that want to paly from this Manager including the DUTCH CONTINGENT - Stefan De Vrijs - Vlaar and the Celtic Player desperate to reunite with the Gaffer.

IN WITH THE DUTCH - out with the TRASH !!! COYR+WS
GOOD RIDDANCE ... SAINTS FANS ... Grow a Pair and do not appalaud the Wantaway Players that have exited our Fine Club - tell them what you really think from the Terraces. WITH THE £2) MILLION - start investing in Players that want to paly from this Manager including the DUTCH CONTINGENT - Stefan De Vrijs - Vlaar and the Celtic Player desperate to reunite with the Gaffer. IN WITH THE DUTCH - out with the TRASH !!! COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 42

5:41pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Independence for Marchwood says...

I really hope he finds his head in Liverpool. Apparently it's been there a while already.
I really hope he finds his head in Liverpool. Apparently it's been there a while already. Independence for Marchwood
  • Score: 24

5:45pm Fri 25 Jul 14

bathsaints says...

oh and what a money grabbing git...i hope liverpool fail miserably this season...he had 4 years left on his contract at least give us another year...hope we replace him.....interesting that liverpool (a team that finished 2nd) seem to think that adding half of the saints team (who finished 8th) will push them on..no offence to all those that have left but are they the best players in europe?
oh and what a money grabbing git...i hope liverpool fail miserably this season...he had 4 years left on his contract at least give us another year...hope we replace him.....interesting that liverpool (a team that finished 2nd) seem to think that adding half of the saints team (who finished 8th) will push them on..no offence to all those that have left but are they the best players in europe? bathsaints
  • Score: 40

5:46pm Fri 25 Jul 14

saintsfan76 says...

Where are the replacements? Even QPR have done more business than us in bringing players in. The youngsters are good but not that good.

Good signings and not all Dutch ones either!
Where are the replacements? Even QPR have done more business than us in bringing players in. The youngsters are good but not that good. Good signings and not all Dutch ones either! saintsfan76
  • Score: 12

5:49pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Saint Dennis says...

Apologies if I'm repeating stuff in other threads but I suspect the bitter Cortese's fingers are all over this - getting his own back on KL for her not allowing him to spend her money without restriction. Apart from maybe Lambert, I reckon Saints are getting the better side of these deals and I find it hard to believe there wont be more players coming in. And it would be good to see Yoshida, Mayuka etc stepping up to the plate as well as some of the youngsters.
Apologies if I'm repeating stuff in other threads but I suspect the bitter Cortese's fingers are all over this - getting his own back on KL for her not allowing him to spend her money without restriction. Apart from maybe Lambert, I reckon Saints are getting the better side of these deals and I find it hard to believe there wont be more players coming in. And it would be good to see Yoshida, Mayuka etc stepping up to the plate as well as some of the youngsters. Saint Dennis
  • Score: 7

5:50pm Fri 25 Jul 14

loosehead says...

Have you seen how many players Liverpool has signed or are after? can you put out two separate teams in each half?
Otherwise when are these so called super players(Lalana,Lambe
rt, Lovren ) going to get a game?
About time we bought a few more players isn't it?
Have you seen how many players Liverpool has signed or are after? can you put out two separate teams in each half? Otherwise when are these so called super players(Lalana,Lambe rt, Lovren ) going to get a game? About time we bought a few more players isn't it? loosehead
  • Score: 15

5:53pm Fri 25 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer.
More to follow next week.

Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren?
A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good.


Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best.
Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week.

101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months.
:-(
So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer. More to follow next week. Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren? A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good. Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best. Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week. 101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months. :-( costa gaz
  • Score: 37

5:55pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Clever Dick says...

F@ck off
F@ck off
With no hope to Anfield
May your dreams all fall apart
F@ck off F@ck off With no hope to Anfield May your dreams all fall apart Clever Dick
  • Score: 15

5:56pm Fri 25 Jul 14

InsideOutCat says...

I expect football clubs the length and breadth of Europe are following these pages in the hope of tapping up one of you miserable sods as their next manager. You're all clearly so much more knowledgeable and experienced than what they have, and with the added bonus that you're all psychic and know exactly what the current manager, owner and board are thinking.
I bet some of you were among the tw@ts screaming "I hope we get relegated" the day NA got sacked.
To borrow from the Nike campaign from a few World Cups ago: "Armchair football manager. Easiest job in the world".
I expect football clubs the length and breadth of Europe are following these pages in the hope of tapping up one of you miserable sods as their next manager. You're all clearly so much more knowledgeable and experienced than what they have, and with the added bonus that you're all psychic and know exactly what the current manager, owner and board are thinking. I bet some of you were among the tw@ts screaming "I hope we get relegated" the day NA got sacked. To borrow from the Nike campaign from a few World Cups ago: "Armchair football manager. Easiest job in the world". InsideOutCat
  • Score: 9

5:57pm Fri 25 Jul 14

footballfan123 says...

The things is we might have all this money in the bank but think about these points:
Too much disruption and change affects any team.
Money in the bank does not mean that good players will WANT to come to a selling club.
Even if we bid 20 million for a player, they will not come to us as they are too good and will want to sign for a bigger club on larger wages.
We have got rid of about ten players and only got in 2. I am talking about Guly etc who sat on the bench.
Time is running out to get players in to replace them.
You can't lose your top 5 players and expect it not to have an impact.
New players will need time to gel and settle and they wont as good as the players sold anyway.
ALL THIS EQUALS -= TROUBLE!
From a worried Saints fan
The things is we might have all this money in the bank but think about these points: Too much disruption and change affects any team. Money in the bank does not mean that good players will WANT to come to a selling club. Even if we bid 20 million for a player, they will not come to us as they are too good and will want to sign for a bigger club on larger wages. We have got rid of about ten players and only got in 2. I am talking about Guly etc who sat on the bench. Time is running out to get players in to replace them. You can't lose your top 5 players and expect it not to have an impact. New players will need time to gel and settle and they wont as good as the players sold anyway. ALL THIS EQUALS -= TROUBLE! From a worried Saints fan footballfan123
  • Score: 29

6:01pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Thornhill Saint says...

So much criticism aimed at the club. So much negativity.

Take the cash and spend wisely. It would be great if it were on multi million pound signings, but if some cash has to go to pay for Staplewood and new lighting so be it.

Only idiots would think we can hold onto players who want to go when neither Newcastle, Liverpool or Arsenal can. Pardew has a point. A bit more energy getting behind the club or at least trying to understand what they are doing would be good, rather than this whaling and whining that goes on. Only idiots would need a lie down every time we get turned down in signimg a potential target. It happens to every club, even if bigger. Ask Astori.

Looks like Saints are keen to make new signings. Tadic and Pelle look like good like for slightly better replacements. I look forward to what happens. If we don't sign any body else, I will still turn up and cheer on the Saints. I will be disappointed, but I won't slag off the family which saved this club and unlike others on here I won't be giving the impression I will soon be jumping off the Itchen Bridge over it.
So much criticism aimed at the club. So much negativity. Take the cash and spend wisely. It would be great if it were on multi million pound signings, but if some cash has to go to pay for Staplewood and new lighting so be it. Only idiots would think we can hold onto players who want to go when neither Newcastle, Liverpool or Arsenal can. Pardew has a point. A bit more energy getting behind the club or at least trying to understand what they are doing would be good, rather than this whaling and whining that goes on. Only idiots would need a lie down every time we get turned down in signimg a potential target. It happens to every club, even if bigger. Ask Astori. Looks like Saints are keen to make new signings. Tadic and Pelle look like good like for slightly better replacements. I look forward to what happens. If we don't sign any body else, I will still turn up and cheer on the Saints. I will be disappointed, but I won't slag off the family which saved this club and unlike others on here I won't be giving the impression I will soon be jumping off the Itchen Bridge over it. Thornhill Saint
  • Score: 17

6:03pm Fri 25 Jul 14

steekeemcglue says...

great , £20M now please Pi55 off so we can start talking about Koeman's era ..... and so-called saints fans.... one step back to take one or two steps forward is not a disaster.... try to be A. Realistic and B. Remember without the Leibherrs there would be no Saints revival so show some respect.
great , £20M now please Pi55 off so we can start talking about Koeman's era ..... and so-called saints fans.... one step back to take one or two steps forward is not a disaster.... try to be A. Realistic and B. Remember without the Leibherrs there would be no Saints revival so show some respect. steekeemcglue
  • Score: 22

6:03pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Steady Eddie says...

Expect Transfer action next week...and lots of it.
Expect Transfer action next week...and lots of it. Steady Eddie
  • Score: 19

6:05pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Thornhill Saint says...

I agree though Lovren can f**k off!
I agree though Lovren can f**k off! Thornhill Saint
  • Score: 12

6:07pm Fri 25 Jul 14

saint robbie says...

Great deal.
He wanted to leave and saints have made 11.5 million in a year. We should be able to get two decent CBs for that 20 Million and why keep a player who wants to go? He would never give 100% if he stayed and would only cause disrupt.
I have to say that there are still so many negative comments and a lot of people panicking on here for no reason.
As Koeman stated any player who leaves will be replaced with better players, so far this is true apart from a LB where by all accounts the lad Targett is just as good if not better than Shaw.

I for one fully trust the owner, board and manager and believe that we are in a far better position now than we were this time last year.
Great deal. He wanted to leave and saints have made 11.5 million in a year. We should be able to get two decent CBs for that 20 Million and why keep a player who wants to go? He would never give 100% if he stayed and would only cause disrupt. I have to say that there are still so many negative comments and a lot of people panicking on here for no reason. As Koeman stated any player who leaves will be replaced with better players, so far this is true apart from a LB where by all accounts the lad Targett is just as good if not better than Shaw. I for one fully trust the owner, board and manager and believe that we are in a far better position now than we were this time last year. saint robbie
  • Score: 26

6:11pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Woodgreen Saint says...

If we don't buy some new players soon we'll have no one to sell:((
If we don't buy some new players soon we'll have no one to sell:(( Woodgreen Saint
  • Score: 12

6:12pm Fri 25 Jul 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

Dejan
As they say in acting circles break a leg!
Dejan As they say in acting circles break a leg! worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: 11

6:13pm Fri 25 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

All the hatred and bile directed at our departing players is playing straight in the hands of our inept board.
Ask your self why the exodus.... one reason : low PL wages.

Other clubs are investing in quality players, improving their squads.
Our board is penny pinching, selling the family silver and buying copper/brass replacements and hoping it'll be just as valuable.

If I was a shareholder I'd be over the moon, but it would only be a short term investment as the board seem to be only looking short term imho.
All the hatred and bile directed at our departing players is playing straight in the hands of our inept board. Ask your self why the exodus.... one reason : low PL wages. Other clubs are investing in quality players, improving their squads. Our board is penny pinching, selling the family silver and buying copper/brass replacements and hoping it'll be just as valuable. If I was a shareholder I'd be over the moon, but it would only be a short term investment as the board seem to be only looking short term imho. costa gaz
  • Score: 20

6:15pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
What is your problem here? I reckon you need to rethink your attitude.
[quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]What is your problem here? I reckon you need to rethink your attitude. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 6

6:15pm Fri 25 Jul 14

saint Gaz45 says...

All that has come out of SFC is lies..lies..and more lies...Poch happy with club and ongoing talks..preparing for next season and pre-season...no players are leaving...We are not a selling club...all money from sales will be reinvested back in the 1st team...Lovern is going nowhere..Lallana is not leaving....Luke Shaw is not leaving...oh and there are 22 backroom staff constantly looking at new players and their profiles..so any players that have come or rumoured to come are all through Koeman..so what are those so called 22 staff really doing..nothing that I can see...there wont be a firesale...no what is this then...LIES...LIES..
and more LIES..how can we ever trust the SFC board...I dont thats for sure.
All that has come out of SFC is lies..lies..and more lies...Poch happy with club and ongoing talks..preparing for next season and pre-season...no players are leaving...We are not a selling club...all money from sales will be reinvested back in the 1st team...Lovern is going nowhere..Lallana is not leaving....Luke Shaw is not leaving...oh and there are 22 backroom staff constantly looking at new players and their profiles..so any players that have come or rumoured to come are all through Koeman..so what are those so called 22 staff really doing..nothing that I can see...there wont be a firesale...no what is this then...LIES...LIES.. and more LIES..how can we ever trust the SFC board...I dont thats for sure. saint Gaz45
  • Score: 29

6:15pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

Ok..... lets just see what happens over next 10 days or so. If no movement in then I will agree we are in trouble. Too early to tell yet though, although I do concede it will be difficult to 'gel' too many new players in a short space of time if we're not careful. If we go and get a couple of quality centre backs now it will seem a lot better. Please remember though that players hold the power now, not clubs unfortunately.
Ok..... lets just see what happens over next 10 days or so. If no movement in then I will agree we are in trouble. Too early to tell yet though, although I do concede it will be difficult to 'gel' too many new players in a short space of time if we're not careful. If we go and get a couple of quality centre backs now it will seem a lot better. Please remember though that players hold the power now, not clubs unfortunately. Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 9

6:17pm Fri 25 Jul 14

apm1954 says...

Fair play my ###
Fair play my ### apm1954
  • Score: 9

6:19pm Fri 25 Jul 14

03alpe01 says...

saintsfan76 wrote:
Where are the replacements? Even QPR have done more business than us in bringing players in. The youngsters are good but not that good.

Good signings and not all Dutch ones either!
The Academy? No point buying in players, when you have an Academy like ours!
[quote][p][bold]saintsfan76[/bold] wrote: Where are the replacements? Even QPR have done more business than us in bringing players in. The youngsters are good but not that good. Good signings and not all Dutch ones either![/p][/quote]The Academy? No point buying in players, when you have an Academy like ours! 03alpe01
  • Score: 18

6:19pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Sussex Jay says...

Glad he's gone or going,I'm just very concerned that no one coming in,it wouldn't surprise me if Ron leaves by sept.he's been told money is to be spent on players but making small bids for players which upset clubs will only Make them dig there hills in. Gutted at what is happening but maybe lovran is right ,who is the person at the driving the club forward?dreadful
Glad he's gone or going,I'm just very concerned that no one coming in,it wouldn't surprise me if Ron leaves by sept.he's been told money is to be spent on players but making small bids for players which upset clubs will only Make them dig there hills in. Gutted at what is happening but maybe lovran is right ,who is the person at the driving the club forward?dreadful Sussex Jay
  • Score: 31

6:22pm Fri 25 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

costa gaz wrote:
So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer.
More to follow next week.

Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren?
A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good.


Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best.
Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week.

101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months.
:-(
gaz as you asked I can find a positive or .
firstly if you believe dejans whining words a couple of weeks ago his head was turned when we played diverpooh last season, long before KL took control from NC long before the new board were in place, so you cant lay blame at their feet. dejan and lielanna have both admitted that they wanted to go there after we played them up there so what could the board do? so the positive is that the new board have stuck to their words and not sold them for less than we wanted, how many different bids did diverpooh put in for these players? did we budge? we have sold 2 players who didn't want to be here and who both wanted to go on strike to force a move for above their true market value!
we don't have to spend £20mill to replace dejan or £25 to replace lielanna, we only paid £8.5 for dejan so why do we have to pay as much as we sold him for? if the rumours are true Ronnie has 2 international CB`s lined up at £10mill or under each, so its a 2 for 1 improvement!

you seem to think that I and others are happy with whats gone on over the summer, let me tell you I am not at all happy. however I don't blame the club for these moves I blame the players. its nothing to do with the clubs ambitions, that's just a lie. its the players wanting champs league without putting in the effort to get there and the extra fame and money that brings! I am angry, very angry but angry at the players!
anyone blaming KL for whats going on should hang their heads in shame!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer. More to follow next week. Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren? A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good. Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best. Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week. 101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months. :-([/p][/quote]gaz as you asked I can find a positive or . firstly if you believe dejans whining words a couple of weeks ago his head was turned when we played diverpooh last season, long before KL took control from NC long before the new board were in place, so you cant lay blame at their feet. dejan and lielanna have both admitted that they wanted to go there after we played them up there so what could the board do? so the positive is that the new board have stuck to their words and not sold them for less than we wanted, how many different bids did diverpooh put in for these players? did we budge? we have sold 2 players who didn't want to be here and who both wanted to go on strike to force a move for above their true market value! we don't have to spend £20mill to replace dejan or £25 to replace lielanna, we only paid £8.5 for dejan so why do we have to pay as much as we sold him for? if the rumours are true Ronnie has 2 international CB`s lined up at £10mill or under each, so its a 2 for 1 improvement! you seem to think that I and others are happy with whats gone on over the summer, let me tell you I am not at all happy. however I don't blame the club for these moves I blame the players. its nothing to do with the clubs ambitions, that's just a lie. its the players wanting champs league without putting in the effort to get there and the extra fame and money that brings! I am angry, very angry but angry at the players! anyone blaming KL for whats going on should hang their heads in shame! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 7

6:25pm Fri 25 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

FIGHT AND WIN.
TRASH THE WANTAWAY PLAYERS FROM THE TERRACES.
COYR+WS
FIGHT AND WIN. TRASH THE WANTAWAY PLAYERS FROM THE TERRACES. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 8

6:26pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Saintnick71 says...

Just remember without the liebherrs we would be lucky to be playing the pompey scum next season! Have faith in RK look what he did in the Netherlands. Bring on the players who want to play for the club and manager!
Just remember without the liebherrs we would be lucky to be playing the pompey scum next season! Have faith in RK look what he did in the Netherlands. Bring on the players who want to play for the club and manager! Saintnick71
  • Score: 11

6:28pm Fri 25 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

Andy Welsh wrote:
I know I'm going to get slated by the handwringers again, but this makes sound business sense. Selling a player who has publicly stated his desire to go, for more than double what we paid for him 12 months ago is a no brainer. I know a lot of you don't believe Saints will reinvest the money. I disagree with you and I believe that the team that starts at Liverpool will have an excellent blend of new players who Koeman wants and want to be here and academy graduates like Ward Prowse, Reed and Targett. We'll just have to wait and see who's right. Let's face it not many of us thought we'd finish 8th in the Premier League five years ago, so stranger things have happened.
100% agree. Many of the players we have been strongly linked with are still potentially available and I’m really confident that we’ll see many new signings before the window closes. Yes, Saints will largely be going Dutch – our manager, perhaps 2 or 3 players and another 4 who are not Dutch but have been playing in the Dutch league (2 already with Tadic & Pelle) and several others to come. I am convinced that RK will mould our new team into a highly competitive one with a great blend of new players, existing players (far more are staying than are leaving) and those coming through the academy. The board did a great job in appointing RK. I feel that there is every chance that he will see his 3 year contract out and may well stay with us longer. Very importantly, with him at the helm, he’ll command far more respect from the players than Poch did and we should largely avoid a repeat of this summer’s exodus. Top 10 finish this year and steady improvements thereafter. I think RK’s impact has already been underestimated. Great times ahead.
[quote][p][bold]Andy Welsh[/bold] wrote: I know I'm going to get slated by the handwringers again, but this makes sound business sense. Selling a player who has publicly stated his desire to go, for more than double what we paid for him 12 months ago is a no brainer. I know a lot of you don't believe Saints will reinvest the money. I disagree with you and I believe that the team that starts at Liverpool will have an excellent blend of new players who Koeman wants and want to be here and academy graduates like Ward Prowse, Reed and Targett. We'll just have to wait and see who's right. Let's face it not many of us thought we'd finish 8th in the Premier League five years ago, so stranger things have happened.[/p][/quote]100% agree. Many of the players we have been strongly linked with are still potentially available and I’m really confident that we’ll see many new signings before the window closes. Yes, Saints will largely be going Dutch – our manager, perhaps 2 or 3 players and another 4 who are not Dutch but have been playing in the Dutch league (2 already with Tadic & Pelle) and several others to come. I am convinced that RK will mould our new team into a highly competitive one with a great blend of new players, existing players (far more are staying than are leaving) and those coming through the academy. The board did a great job in appointing RK. I feel that there is every chance that he will see his 3 year contract out and may well stay with us longer. Very importantly, with him at the helm, he’ll command far more respect from the players than Poch did and we should largely avoid a repeat of this summer’s exodus. Top 10 finish this year and steady improvements thereafter. I think RK’s impact has already been underestimated. Great times ahead. nomorerumours
  • Score: -2

6:31pm Fri 25 Jul 14

SaintsBTGOG says...

I read the DE site every day and the comments but don't comment myself, but today I have to. I can't believe the negativity on here. Anyone who knows anything about football knows that it is impossible for a club to keep a player if that player wants to leave. All the club can hope to do is get the best price they can. RK has bought two players who look like very good signings and I am certain there will be more.
Some of the comments on here about the club and Miss Liebherr are an absolute disgrace. How about waiting until the season actually STARTS before deciding that we wont have a decent team to field!!
Rant over.
I read the DE site every day and the comments but don't comment myself, but today I have to. I can't believe the negativity on here. Anyone who knows anything about football knows that it is impossible for a club to keep a player if that player wants to leave. All the club can hope to do is get the best price they can. RK has bought two players who look like very good signings and I am certain there will be more. Some of the comments on here about the club and Miss Liebherr are an absolute disgrace. How about waiting until the season actually STARTS before deciding that we wont have a decent team to field!! Rant over. SaintsBTGOG
  • Score: 20

6:32pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Saintsayer II says...

03alpe01 wrote:
But don't worry, none of our players are up for sale, there will not be a fire sale, we do not need to sell our best players, we want to keep the core of our players together. All because Les Reed said so.

So don't panic everyone- WE ARE NOT A SELLING CLUB AND DO NOT HAVE TO SELL OUR BEST PLAYERS!!!
Remember he also said we would spend ALL the income on improving the squad Why am I finding it hard to believe that?
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: But don't worry, none of our players are up for sale, there will not be a fire sale, we do not need to sell our best players, we want to keep the core of our players together. All because Les Reed said so. So don't panic everyone- WE ARE NOT A SELLING CLUB AND DO NOT HAVE TO SELL OUR BEST PLAYERS!!![/p][/quote]Remember he also said we would spend ALL the income on improving the squad Why am I finding it hard to believe that? Saintsayer II
  • Score: 20

6:33pm Fri 25 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer.
More to follow next week.

Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren?
A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good.


Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best.
Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week.

101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months.
:-(
gaz as you asked I can find a positive or .
firstly if you believe dejans whining words a couple of weeks ago his head was turned when we played diverpooh last season, long before KL took control from NC long before the new board were in place, so you cant lay blame at their feet. dejan and lielanna have both admitted that they wanted to go there after we played them up there so what could the board do? so the positive is that the new board have stuck to their words and not sold them for less than we wanted, how many different bids did diverpooh put in for these players? did we budge? we have sold 2 players who didn't want to be here and who both wanted to go on strike to force a move for above their true market value!
we don't have to spend £20mill to replace dejan or £25 to replace lielanna, we only paid £8.5 for dejan so why do we have to pay as much as we sold him for? if the rumours are true Ronnie has 2 international CB`s lined up at £10mill or under each, so its a 2 for 1 improvement!

you seem to think that I and others are happy with whats gone on over the summer, let me tell you I am not at all happy. however I don't blame the club for these moves I blame the players. its nothing to do with the clubs ambitions, that's just a lie. its the players wanting champs league without putting in the effort to get there and the extra fame and money that brings! I am angry, very angry but angry at the players!
anyone blaming KL for whats going on should hang their heads in shame!
The sentence where you say -the new board have stuck to their word, sums up your reply 101.
You are trying to defend this shambles who are doing nothing more than wall papering over the cracks, whilst telling us lie after lie.
As I mentioned before, 5th lowest wage payers in the league, could drop another couple of places this coming season.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer. More to follow next week. Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren? A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good. Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best. Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week. 101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months. :-([/p][/quote]gaz as you asked I can find a positive or . firstly if you believe dejans whining words a couple of weeks ago his head was turned when we played diverpooh last season, long before KL took control from NC long before the new board were in place, so you cant lay blame at their feet. dejan and lielanna have both admitted that they wanted to go there after we played them up there so what could the board do? so the positive is that the new board have stuck to their words and not sold them for less than we wanted, how many different bids did diverpooh put in for these players? did we budge? we have sold 2 players who didn't want to be here and who both wanted to go on strike to force a move for above their true market value! we don't have to spend £20mill to replace dejan or £25 to replace lielanna, we only paid £8.5 for dejan so why do we have to pay as much as we sold him for? if the rumours are true Ronnie has 2 international CB`s lined up at £10mill or under each, so its a 2 for 1 improvement! you seem to think that I and others are happy with whats gone on over the summer, let me tell you I am not at all happy. however I don't blame the club for these moves I blame the players. its nothing to do with the clubs ambitions, that's just a lie. its the players wanting champs league without putting in the effort to get there and the extra fame and money that brings! I am angry, very angry but angry at the players! anyone blaming KL for whats going on should hang their heads in shame![/p][/quote]The sentence where you say -the new board have stuck to their word, sums up your reply 101. You are trying to defend this shambles who are doing nothing more than wall papering over the cracks, whilst telling us lie after lie. As I mentioned before, 5th lowest wage payers in the league, could drop another couple of places this coming season. costa gaz
  • Score: 14

6:33pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Chapperall says...

So the spoilt brat got his own way in the end.! Now Liverpool have ripped the spine out of our team, I wonder who the next one is to go!
At this rate we won't have a team to put out.!
So much for the statements of not being a selling club we can't believe a word the board say anymore. Having just bought my season ticket I am left wondering what we will be watching next season.
Apologies for those who don't like moaners, but surely everyone is saying now enough is enough!
So the spoilt brat got his own way in the end.! Now Liverpool have ripped the spine out of our team, I wonder who the next one is to go! At this rate we won't have a team to put out.! So much for the statements of not being a selling club we can't believe a word the board say anymore. Having just bought my season ticket I am left wondering what we will be watching next season. Apologies for those who don't like moaners, but surely everyone is saying now enough is enough! Chapperall
  • Score: 17

6:35pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Saintsayer II says...

Andy Welsh wrote:
I know I'm going to get slated by the handwringers again, but this makes sound business sense. Selling a player who has publicly stated his desire to go, for more than double what we paid for him 12 months ago is a no brainer. I know a lot of you don't believe Saints will reinvest the money. I disagree with you and I believe that the team that starts at Liverpool will have an excellent blend of new players who Koeman wants and want to be here and academy graduates like Ward Prowse, Reed and Targett. We'll just have to wait and see who's right. Let's face it not many of us thought we'd finish 8th in the Premier League five years ago, so stranger things have happened.
How can you believe that we will spend all the transfer income Reed has told us nothing but lies and that is probably another one
[quote][p][bold]Andy Welsh[/bold] wrote: I know I'm going to get slated by the handwringers again, but this makes sound business sense. Selling a player who has publicly stated his desire to go, for more than double what we paid for him 12 months ago is a no brainer. I know a lot of you don't believe Saints will reinvest the money. I disagree with you and I believe that the team that starts at Liverpool will have an excellent blend of new players who Koeman wants and want to be here and academy graduates like Ward Prowse, Reed and Targett. We'll just have to wait and see who's right. Let's face it not many of us thought we'd finish 8th in the Premier League five years ago, so stranger things have happened.[/p][/quote]How can you believe that we will spend all the transfer income Reed has told us nothing but lies and that is probably another one Saintsayer II
  • Score: 13

6:35pm Fri 25 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

KING RON KOEMAN has the great advantage over Nigel adkins and also Judas (MP) in that he can attract HIGH CALIBRE PLAYERS.

HE was the one very good appointment - once judas fled.

IT WILL DO NO HARM to have a Dutch contiogent in the Team - they seemed pretty good in the World Cup and that combined with existing Players and youth means if we ACT DECISIVELY with STRONG LEADERSHIP we can move ahead to a Team that really wants to play for this Gaffer.

I WILL NOT CLAP OR SUPPORT ex Players especially the Wantaway ones - they had my support when they were at St Marys.

FIGHT AMD WIN - THE SAINTS TO GO MARCHING ON-ON-ON.
COYR+WS
KING RON KOEMAN has the great advantage over Nigel adkins and also Judas (MP) in that he can attract HIGH CALIBRE PLAYERS. HE was the one very good appointment - once judas fled. IT WILL DO NO HARM to have a Dutch contiogent in the Team - they seemed pretty good in the World Cup and that combined with existing Players and youth means if we ACT DECISIVELY with STRONG LEADERSHIP we can move ahead to a Team that really wants to play for this Gaffer. I WILL NOT CLAP OR SUPPORT ex Players especially the Wantaway ones - they had my support when they were at St Marys. FIGHT AMD WIN - THE SAINTS TO GO MARCHING ON-ON-ON. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 19

6:38pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Saints for life says...

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
Dejan
As they say in acting circles break a leg!
Not any player deserves a comment like this disgusting!
[quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: Dejan As they say in acting circles break a leg![/p][/quote]Not any player deserves a comment like this disgusting! Saints for life
  • Score: -1

6:38pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Forest Saint says...

Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.
[quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc. Forest Saint
  • Score: 18

6:39pm Fri 25 Jul 14

saintbobby says...

saint Gaz45 wrote:
All that has come out of SFC is lies..lies..and more lies...Poch happy with club and ongoing talks..preparing for next season and pre-season...no players are leaving...We are not a selling club...all money from sales will be reinvested back in the 1st team...Lovern is going nowhere..Lallana is not leaving....Luke Shaw is not leaving...oh and there are 22 backroom staff constantly looking at new players and their profiles..so any players that have come or rumoured to come are all through Koeman..so what are those so called 22 staff really doing..nothing that I can see...there wont be a firesale...no what is this then...LIES...LIES..

and more LIES..how can we ever trust the SFC board...I dont thats for sure.
saint Gaz45, I agree so much with your points. I do not want anyone in our team whose "big head" is in Anfield or wherever.

I may be ahead of the club's game in that players may be coming soon, bl**dy need to! but just about everything the Board has said has proved not to be true. No a selling club, my ar*e!! Why are they treating us very obvious Saints' fans, (and for me since 1959), like this.

Why did they not say when MP went, right the club is going to change, so hang on to your seats.

Because that is what has happened. I do hope tonight's game is not a rehearsal for the coach driver to find his way to Bournemouth next year.

The next 2 weeks are crucial as to what will happen this season. What other team has EVER lost half its team, with perhaps another to go in Spider, within 10 weeks of achieving 8th position and the best ever performance in the PL. If it was a book, no one would believe it!!
[quote][p][bold]saint Gaz45[/bold] wrote: All that has come out of SFC is lies..lies..and more lies...Poch happy with club and ongoing talks..preparing for next season and pre-season...no players are leaving...We are not a selling club...all money from sales will be reinvested back in the 1st team...Lovern is going nowhere..Lallana is not leaving....Luke Shaw is not leaving...oh and there are 22 backroom staff constantly looking at new players and their profiles..so any players that have come or rumoured to come are all through Koeman..so what are those so called 22 staff really doing..nothing that I can see...there wont be a firesale...no what is this then...LIES...LIES.. and more LIES..how can we ever trust the SFC board...I dont thats for sure.[/p][/quote]saint Gaz45, I agree so much with your points. I do not want anyone in our team whose "big head" is in Anfield or wherever. I may be ahead of the club's game in that players may be coming soon, bl**dy need to! but just about everything the Board has said has proved not to be true. No a selling club, my ar*e!! Why are they treating us very obvious Saints' fans, (and for me since 1959), like this. Why did they not say when MP went, right the club is going to change, so hang on to your seats. Because that is what has happened. I do hope tonight's game is not a rehearsal for the coach driver to find his way to Bournemouth next year. The next 2 weeks are crucial as to what will happen this season. What other team has EVER lost half its team, with perhaps another to go in Spider, within 10 weeks of achieving 8th position and the best ever performance in the PL. If it was a book, no one would believe it!! saintbobby
  • Score: 10

6:40pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jasons odd says...

Saintnick71 wrote:
Just remember without the liebherrs we would be lucky to be playing the pompey scum next season! Have faith in RK look what he did in the Netherlands. Bring on the players who want to play for the club and manager!
Correction - ' without MARCUS liebherr we would be....'

Katherina liebherr has no interest in football or our football club , the best thing for everyone is for Ms Liebherr to sell.

As for Koeman ? What did he do in the Netherlands ??? Not a lot if you look at his record
[quote][p][bold]Saintnick71[/bold] wrote: Just remember without the liebherrs we would be lucky to be playing the pompey scum next season! Have faith in RK look what he did in the Netherlands. Bring on the players who want to play for the club and manager![/p][/quote]Correction - ' without MARCUS liebherr we would be....' Katherina liebherr has no interest in football or our football club , the best thing for everyone is for Ms Liebherr to sell. As for Koeman ? What did he do in the Netherlands ??? Not a lot if you look at his record jasons odd
  • Score: 16

6:41pm Fri 25 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

saint Gaz45 wrote:
All that has come out of SFC is lies..lies..and more lies...Poch happy with club and ongoing talks..preparing for next season and pre-season...no players are leaving...We are not a selling club...all money from sales will be reinvested back in the 1st team...Lovern is going nowhere..Lallana is not leaving....Luke Shaw is not leaving...oh and there are 22 backroom staff constantly looking at new players and their profiles..so any players that have come or rumoured to come are all through Koeman..so what are those so called 22 staff really doing..nothing that I can see...there wont be a firesale...no what is this then...LIES...LIES..

and more LIES..how can we ever trust the SFC board...I dont thats for sure.
poch told the club he was happy and was preparing for pre-season whilst all the time knowing he wanted out. how have the club lied? they can only have lied if they knew the truth but he didn't tell them!
they never said no players are leaving, look back over the statements. no players will leave without the managers agreement, no players will leave unless its in the best interests of the club. where have they lied? surely getting above market value for players who said they were prepared to go on strike is in the best interests of the club!
how do you know how many people are working away in the background? have you been to the club and counted? NC started this scouting department, as it is now, so was he lying? maybe the scouts have given the manager a list of players to pick from that included the players we re rumoured to be after.
firesale `a sale of goods or assets at a very low price, typically when the seller is facing bankruptcy.` we are selling above market value not at a very low price and we aren't facing bankruptcy. if you want to see a firesale look what happened to poopey in their prem relegation and champ relegation seasons!
I cant tell you to trust the board but I can say that they haven't lied in the manner you have stated!
[quote][p][bold]saint Gaz45[/bold] wrote: All that has come out of SFC is lies..lies..and more lies...Poch happy with club and ongoing talks..preparing for next season and pre-season...no players are leaving...We are not a selling club...all money from sales will be reinvested back in the 1st team...Lovern is going nowhere..Lallana is not leaving....Luke Shaw is not leaving...oh and there are 22 backroom staff constantly looking at new players and their profiles..so any players that have come or rumoured to come are all through Koeman..so what are those so called 22 staff really doing..nothing that I can see...there wont be a firesale...no what is this then...LIES...LIES.. and more LIES..how can we ever trust the SFC board...I dont thats for sure.[/p][/quote]poch told the club he was happy and was preparing for pre-season whilst all the time knowing he wanted out. how have the club lied? they can only have lied if they knew the truth but he didn't tell them! they never said no players are leaving, look back over the statements. no players will leave without the managers agreement, no players will leave unless its in the best interests of the club. where have they lied? surely getting above market value for players who said they were prepared to go on strike is in the best interests of the club! how do you know how many people are working away in the background? have you been to the club and counted? NC started this scouting department, as it is now, so was he lying? maybe the scouts have given the manager a list of players to pick from that included the players we re rumoured to be after. firesale `a sale of goods or assets at a very low price, typically when the seller is facing bankruptcy.` we are selling above market value not at a very low price and we aren't facing bankruptcy. if you want to see a firesale look what happened to poopey in their prem relegation and champ relegation seasons! I cant tell you to trust the board but I can say that they haven't lied in the manner you have stated! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: -7

6:43pm Fri 25 Jul 14

alanstreet46 says...

So many of the comments are of the ' We only want to have/keep here players who really want to be here.
Get real folks - sad to say that money is the key to loyalty these days. That and the opportunity to play in the CL in order to increase a player's Eoropean visibility, and thus 'valur' in monetary terms. Obviously most here are hard-bitten Saints supporters who hanker after the Good Old Days when players like Paine and Sydenham did feel a loyalty to the organisation that paid their wages. Why can't people understand that those days are gone forever and we have to learn to live in the real world of 'Money Talks' now
So many of the comments are of the ' We only want to have/keep here players who really want to be here. Get real folks - sad to say that money is the key to loyalty these days. That and the opportunity to play in the CL in order to increase a player's Eoropean visibility, and thus 'valur' in monetary terms. Obviously most here are hard-bitten Saints supporters who hanker after the Good Old Days when players like Paine and Sydenham did feel a loyalty to the organisation that paid their wages. Why can't people understand that those days are gone forever and we have to learn to live in the real world of 'Money Talks' now alanstreet46
  • Score: 9

6:45pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Saintnick71 says...

jasons odd wrote:
Saintnick71 wrote:
Just remember without the liebherrs we would be lucky to be playing the pompey scum next season! Have faith in RK look what he did in the Netherlands. Bring on the players who want to play for the club and manager!
Correction - ' without MARCUS liebherr we would be....'

Katherina liebherr has no interest in football or our football club , the best thing for everyone is for Ms Liebherr to sell.

As for Koeman ? What did he do in the Netherlands ??? Not a lot if you look at his record
Think you will find he took a team that finished 11th to 2nd, 3rd and 2nd in three seasons! More than happy with that!
[quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintnick71[/bold] wrote: Just remember without the liebherrs we would be lucky to be playing the pompey scum next season! Have faith in RK look what he did in the Netherlands. Bring on the players who want to play for the club and manager![/p][/quote]Correction - ' without MARCUS liebherr we would be....' Katherina liebherr has no interest in football or our football club , the best thing for everyone is for Ms Liebherr to sell. As for Koeman ? What did he do in the Netherlands ??? Not a lot if you look at his record[/p][/quote]Think you will find he took a team that finished 11th to 2nd, 3rd and 2nd in three seasons! More than happy with that! Saintnick71
  • Score: -4

6:47pm Fri 25 Jul 14

East stand benches says...

Last season Liverpool narrowly missed out on the title, so why fill your team with players from a team that finished 8th? Ok, we'll miss them all, but are they gonna improve Liverpool? Are they that good? Are the replacements we have signed better than the ones we've sold? Time will tell. I'm quite excited by it all. I've a feeling the dirty scousers are gonna end up looking stupid.
Last season Liverpool narrowly missed out on the title, so why fill your team with players from a team that finished 8th? Ok, we'll miss them all, but are they gonna improve Liverpool? Are they that good? Are the replacements we have signed better than the ones we've sold? Time will tell. I'm quite excited by it all. I've a feeling the dirty scousers are gonna end up looking stupid. East stand benches
  • Score: 17

6:49pm Fri 25 Jul 14

ItchenBridger says...

Billy liar wrote:
Saints. Richest club in championship...
.


R. Soles
It's nice to be rich, as against the alternative.
[quote][p][bold]Billy liar[/bold] wrote: Saints. Richest club in championship... . R. Soles[/p][/quote]It's nice to be rich, as against the alternative. ItchenBridger
  • Score: 6

6:50pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Saints for life says...

Just hope all works out and new signings and the youngsters coming through gel and continue the success we've achieved on and off the pitch.
Just hope all works out and new signings and the youngsters coming through gel and continue the success we've achieved on and off the pitch. Saints for life
  • Score: 12

6:50pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jasons odd says...

Saintnick71 wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
Saintnick71 wrote:
Just remember without the liebherrs we would be lucky to be playing the pompey scum next season! Have faith in RK look what he did in the Netherlands. Bring on the players who want to play for the club and manager!
Correction - ' without MARCUS liebherr we would be....'

Katherina liebherr has no interest in football or our football club , the best thing for everyone is for Ms Liebherr to sell.

As for Koeman ? What did he do in the Netherlands ??? Not a lot if you look at his record
Think you will find he took a team that finished 11th to 2nd, 3rd and 2nd in three seasons! More than happy with that!
Its Holland . Feyenoord are one of 'the big 3 ' ...With their resources compared to the rest of the league , top 3 is a minimum requirement

Check out his 2 managerial forays into foreign Leagues ....Both times sacked within the year
[quote][p][bold]Saintnick71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintnick71[/bold] wrote: Just remember without the liebherrs we would be lucky to be playing the pompey scum next season! Have faith in RK look what he did in the Netherlands. Bring on the players who want to play for the club and manager![/p][/quote]Correction - ' without MARCUS liebherr we would be....' Katherina liebherr has no interest in football or our football club , the best thing for everyone is for Ms Liebherr to sell. As for Koeman ? What did he do in the Netherlands ??? Not a lot if you look at his record[/p][/quote]Think you will find he took a team that finished 11th to 2nd, 3rd and 2nd in three seasons! More than happy with that![/p][/quote]Its Holland . Feyenoord are one of 'the big 3 ' ...With their resources compared to the rest of the league , top 3 is a minimum requirement Check out his 2 managerial forays into foreign Leagues ....Both times sacked within the year jasons odd
  • Score: 11

6:55pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Chapperall says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
Andy Welsh wrote:
I know I'm going to get slated by the handwringers again, but this makes sound business sense. Selling a player who has publicly stated his desire to go, for more than double what we paid for him 12 months ago is a no brainer. I know a lot of you don't believe Saints will reinvest the money. I disagree with you and I believe that the team that starts at Liverpool will have an excellent blend of new players who Koeman wants and want to be here and academy graduates like Ward Prowse, Reed and Targett. We'll just have to wait and see who's right. Let's face it not many of us thought we'd finish 8th in the Premier League five years ago, so stranger things have happened.
How can you believe that we will spend all the transfer income Reed has told us nothing but lies and that is probably another one
Agreed you can't believe a word they have said. They certainly aren't in a hurry to spend it. Probably going to use the youngsters and pocket the proceeds!
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy Welsh[/bold] wrote: I know I'm going to get slated by the handwringers again, but this makes sound business sense. Selling a player who has publicly stated his desire to go, for more than double what we paid for him 12 months ago is a no brainer. I know a lot of you don't believe Saints will reinvest the money. I disagree with you and I believe that the team that starts at Liverpool will have an excellent blend of new players who Koeman wants and want to be here and academy graduates like Ward Prowse, Reed and Targett. We'll just have to wait and see who's right. Let's face it not many of us thought we'd finish 8th in the Premier League five years ago, so stranger things have happened.[/p][/quote]How can you believe that we will spend all the transfer income Reed has told us nothing but lies and that is probably another one[/p][/quote]Agreed you can't believe a word they have said. They certainly aren't in a hurry to spend it. Probably going to use the youngsters and pocket the proceeds! Chapperall
  • Score: 11

6:55pm Fri 25 Jul 14

warrens 76 says...

TFFT we have at least recovered the loss on Osvaldo (thanks Mo Po)
however we are three top four quality players light…Les, Les pull yer finger out so you should, I'am here so I am..

..sorry went all Corrie.
TFFT we have at least recovered the loss on Osvaldo (thanks Mo Po) however we are three top four quality players light…Les, Les pull yer finger out so you should, I'am here so I am.. ..sorry went all Corrie. warrens 76
  • Score: 2

6:55pm Fri 25 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

Forest Saint wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.
The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back.
The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides.

We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs.
It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to.
[quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.[/p][/quote]The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back. The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides. We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs. It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to. costa gaz
  • Score: 19

6:55pm Fri 25 Jul 14

ItchenBridger says...

KSO16R wrote:
More flapping than a flock of seagulls on clarence pier.
Clarence Pier ?
Alright if you like to sit and watch the ferries!
[quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: More flapping than a flock of seagulls on clarence pier.[/p][/quote]Clarence Pier ? Alright if you like to sit and watch the ferries! ItchenBridger
  • Score: 0

6:55pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Baybrit says...

I would be tempted to blame the players agents as well. The money they would make personally from transfer fees and increased players salaries mean that they could stir it up by pushing the player to ask for a move. Also, and I don't care how many time people say it doesn't happen, how would anybody know if Liverpool or any other team were to make a quiet behind-the-back approach to the player through his agent or even just a quiet phone call. And then, if the player has no honour and refuses to stick by a signed contract, he could then pressure the team he's with to force them to let him go.
I would be tempted to blame the players agents as well. The money they would make personally from transfer fees and increased players salaries mean that they could stir it up by pushing the player to ask for a move. Also, and I don't care how many time people say it doesn't happen, how would anybody know if Liverpool or any other team were to make a quiet behind-the-back approach to the player through his agent or even just a quiet phone call. And then, if the player has no honour and refuses to stick by a signed contract, he could then pressure the team he's with to force them to let him go. Baybrit
  • Score: 10

6:56pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Chapperall says...

Saints for life wrote:
Just hope all works out and new signings and the youngsters coming through gel and continue the success we've achieved on and off the pitch.
Dream world
[quote][p][bold]Saints for life[/bold] wrote: Just hope all works out and new signings and the youngsters coming through gel and continue the success we've achieved on and off the pitch.[/p][/quote]Dream world Chapperall
  • Score: 14

6:58pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Saintsayer II says...

The media are already winding up the Morgan to Arsenal stories,then its Fonte to Cardiff Chambers to Arsenal Cork to WBA etc etc
The media are already winding up the Morgan to Arsenal stories,then its Fonte to Cardiff Chambers to Arsenal Cork to WBA etc etc Saintsayer II
  • Score: 14

6:58pm Fri 25 Jul 14

ItchenBridger says...

Woodgreen Saint wrote:
If we don't buy some new players soon we'll have no one to sell:((
At last a sensible comment!
[quote][p][bold]Woodgreen Saint[/bold] wrote: If we don't buy some new players soon we'll have no one to sell:(([/p][/quote]At last a sensible comment! ItchenBridger
  • Score: 3

6:59pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Chapperall says...

East stand benches wrote:
Last season Liverpool narrowly missed out on the title, so why fill your team with players from a team that finished 8th? Ok, we'll miss them all, but are they gonna improve Liverpool? Are they that good? Are the replacements we have signed better than the ones we've sold? Time will tell. I'm quite excited by it all. I've a feeling the dirty scousers are gonna end up looking stupid.
Are you on something!
[quote][p][bold]East stand benches[/bold] wrote: Last season Liverpool narrowly missed out on the title, so why fill your team with players from a team that finished 8th? Ok, we'll miss them all, but are they gonna improve Liverpool? Are they that good? Are the replacements we have signed better than the ones we've sold? Time will tell. I'm quite excited by it all. I've a feeling the dirty scousers are gonna end up looking stupid.[/p][/quote]Are you on something! Chapperall
  • Score: 13

7:00pm Fri 25 Jul 14

hugh123 says...

Um where's all the money going - isn't it 74 million, now?!!
Um where's all the money going - isn't it 74 million, now?!! hugh123
  • Score: 2

7:00pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Woodgreen Saint says...

Chapperall wrote:
So the spoilt brat got his own way in the end.! Now Liverpool have ripped the spine out of our team, I wonder who the next one is to go!
At this rate we won't have a team to put out.!
So much for the statements of not being a selling club we can't believe a word the board say anymore. Having just bought my season ticket I am left wondering what we will be watching next season.
Apologies for those who don't like moaners, but surely everyone is saying now enough is enough!
Morgan will be the next to go, he's back off holiday this weekend so will probably be gone by midweek
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: So the spoilt brat got his own way in the end.! Now Liverpool have ripped the spine out of our team, I wonder who the next one is to go! At this rate we won't have a team to put out.! So much for the statements of not being a selling club we can't believe a word the board say anymore. Having just bought my season ticket I am left wondering what we will be watching next season. Apologies for those who don't like moaners, but surely everyone is saying now enough is enough![/p][/quote]Morgan will be the next to go, he's back off holiday this weekend so will probably be gone by midweek Woodgreen Saint
  • Score: 10

7:02pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Saintnick71 says...

jasons odd wrote:
Saintnick71 wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
Saintnick71 wrote:
Just remember without the liebherrs we would be lucky to be playing the pompey scum next season! Have faith in RK look what he did in the Netherlands. Bring on the players who want to play for the club and manager!
Correction - ' without MARCUS liebherr we would be....'

Katherina liebherr has no interest in football or our football club , the best thing for everyone is for Ms Liebherr to sell.

As for Koeman ? What did he do in the Netherlands ??? Not a lot if you look at his record
Think you will find he took a team that finished 11th to 2nd, 3rd and 2nd in three seasons! More than happy with that!
Its Holland . Feyenoord are one of 'the big 3 ' ...With their resources compared to the rest of the league , top 3 is a minimum requirement

Check out his 2 managerial forays into foreign Leagues ....Both times sacked within the year
Holland is the Netherlands!
[quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintnick71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintnick71[/bold] wrote: Just remember without the liebherrs we would be lucky to be playing the pompey scum next season! Have faith in RK look what he did in the Netherlands. Bring on the players who want to play for the club and manager![/p][/quote]Correction - ' without MARCUS liebherr we would be....' Katherina liebherr has no interest in football or our football club , the best thing for everyone is for Ms Liebherr to sell. As for Koeman ? What did he do in the Netherlands ??? Not a lot if you look at his record[/p][/quote]Think you will find he took a team that finished 11th to 2nd, 3rd and 2nd in three seasons! More than happy with that![/p][/quote]Its Holland . Feyenoord are one of 'the big 3 ' ...With their resources compared to the rest of the league , top 3 is a minimum requirement Check out his 2 managerial forays into foreign Leagues ....Both times sacked within the year[/p][/quote]Holland is the Netherlands! Saintnick71
  • Score: 0

7:03pm Fri 25 Jul 14

BigBugBuzzz says...

We can only hope Stefan de Vrij has signed to us before Lovren leaves. Surely we are not so stupid as to leave ourselves so vulnerable. Money doesn't win matches. Invested money does.
We can only hope Stefan de Vrij has signed to us before Lovren leaves. Surely we are not so stupid as to leave ourselves so vulnerable. Money doesn't win matches. Invested money does. BigBugBuzzz
  • Score: 9

7:03pm Fri 25 Jul 14

pintsizedsaint says...

costa gaz wrote:
So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer.
More to follow next week.

Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren?
A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good.


Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best.
Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week.

101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months.
:-(
Let's see what happens at the end of the season. If we're relegated then you're right. If we do well (top ten finish) then I hope people come onto this site and have the grace to admit they were wrong.

Yes it's tough, but Lovren and AL didn't want to stay. They are replaceable. Any football player is replaceable. We've covered AL and SRL already. We already have players at Saints ready to replace Shaw. Hell - even if Spider-Man left we have Cork!

Don't get me wrong I too would have preferred them to stay. But they didn't. We got top dollar for all of them which will be put back into the club. You can either trust the new management and get behind the players or spend your time writing doom and gloom on sites like this. I know which one I prefer!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer. More to follow next week. Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren? A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good. Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best. Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week. 101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months. :-([/p][/quote]Let's see what happens at the end of the season. If we're relegated then you're right. If we do well (top ten finish) then I hope people come onto this site and have the grace to admit they were wrong. Yes it's tough, but Lovren and AL didn't want to stay. They are replaceable. Any football player is replaceable. We've covered AL and SRL already. We already have players at Saints ready to replace Shaw. Hell - even if Spider-Man left we have Cork! Don't get me wrong I too would have preferred them to stay. But they didn't. We got top dollar for all of them which will be put back into the club. You can either trust the new management and get behind the players or spend your time writing doom and gloom on sites like this. I know which one I prefer! pintsizedsaint
  • Score: 13

7:05pm Fri 25 Jul 14

redandy10 says...

An excellent player who should be ashamed of himself at the way he conducted himself in this transfer saga. IMO he will be the biggest loss to the club.

Let's up the speed which we bring in new talent and get behind Ron and the team.
An excellent player who should be ashamed of himself at the way he conducted himself in this transfer saga. IMO he will be the biggest loss to the club. Let's up the speed which we bring in new talent and get behind Ron and the team. redandy10
  • Score: 7

7:06pm Fri 25 Jul 14

buckie says...

i understand now why they wanted my season ticket money early they fleeced me early so on the promise of improving on the season gone is out of the question saying that though i did"nt want lovren in the team but also today there are strong rumours that Chambers is having a medical at Arsenal so with him and spider ( i presumb going) will we have any players of quality left to take the field at anfield except real cheap foreign imports ive been caught financially by this board NO NEW STRIP FOR ME AND NO SEASON TICKET NEXT SEASON i understand its a futile gesture with all the multi millions pouring into the club but i believe that we should take a stand where is Ralph and the smiling Les in all this are the going to front up again and say we are not a selling club? LOL
i understand now why they wanted my season ticket money early they fleeced me early so on the promise of improving on the season gone is out of the question saying that though i did"nt want lovren in the team but also today there are strong rumours that Chambers is having a medical at Arsenal so with him and spider ( i presumb going) will we have any players of quality left to take the field at anfield except real cheap foreign imports ive been caught financially by this board NO NEW STRIP FOR ME AND NO SEASON TICKET NEXT SEASON i understand its a futile gesture with all the multi millions pouring into the club but i believe that we should take a stand where is Ralph and the smiling Les in all this are the going to front up again and say we are not a selling club? LOL buckie
  • Score: 8

7:08pm Fri 25 Jul 14

warrens 76 says...

Forget for a moment who has/is going, what about the weak spots already evident??
I am not such a huge fan of LaLa because he is a show pony for me, LS was great business SRL..hmmm.
Lovren..bad news because it is such a weak area…
Replacing Morgan does not bear thinking about..
We 'may' have bought better than two we sold Al and Rl but what about what was wrong in the first place, ie 60%+ possession and no end product So many times…
For moi, well, I a'int impressed.
Forget for a moment who has/is going, what about the weak spots already evident?? I am not such a huge fan of LaLa because he is a show pony for me, LS was great business SRL..hmmm. Lovren..bad news because it is such a weak area… Replacing Morgan does not bear thinking about.. We 'may' have bought better than two we sold Al and Rl but what about what was wrong in the first place, ie 60%+ possession and no end product So many times… For moi, well, I a'int impressed. warrens 76
  • Score: 1

7:08pm Fri 25 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

The price tag for MS, is now a reported £27m. The price has been set to keep Spurs and Arsenal away from him.
So sometime in the next week or so, we will have sold him for £15m to either Spurs or Arsenal.
The price tag for MS, is now a reported £27m. The price has been set to keep Spurs and Arsenal away from him. So sometime in the next week or so, we will have sold him for £15m to either Spurs or Arsenal. costa gaz
  • Score: 13

7:12pm Fri 25 Jul 14

SaintSteve76 says...

Unfortunately I am slowly but surely beginning to lose interest in next season. Everything that has happened to the club over the summer is nothing short of a joke. You simply cannot sell 4-5 of your best players whatever team you are. Difference between us and Everton is that they have ambition whereas all our ambition has completely gone. We will be lucky to finish in the top 12-14. Sorry but i'm just being a realist. As for reinvesting transfer money back into the team, we supposedly offered a derisory £3.5m for Fraser Forster who is worth at least £8m. There is no chance of us bringing in players of the quality of Lallana, Lovren, Shaw, Lambert, and maybe Shneiderlain. We certainly wont be spending anywhere near £100m+ which is what we will have received through outgoing players. I am devastated that we have gone from having a fantastic young team capable of breaking into the top 6 with one or two additions, to a team who will be lucky to finish mid-table. Love him or hate him Cortese leaving was the worst thing that could have happened to our club and he would never have allowed any of this to happen. Sorry but the current board is clueless. Cortese had a vision which all the players including Lallana, Lovren etc believed in. He was also signing us these quality players due to the ambition he had for the club. Shame Katherina doesn't share this ambition. Completely and utterly disappointed as this could have been our best ever chance to compete with the top six. The fact that Liverpool have bought 4 of our players and Manchester United have bought one of our players with teams such as Arsenal still wanting to buy players that are left tells it's on story in terms of what this team could have achieved. This has all happened since Cortese left and that is a fact.
Unfortunately I am slowly but surely beginning to lose interest in next season. Everything that has happened to the club over the summer is nothing short of a joke. You simply cannot sell 4-5 of your best players whatever team you are. Difference between us and Everton is that they have ambition whereas all our ambition has completely gone. We will be lucky to finish in the top 12-14. Sorry but i'm just being a realist. As for reinvesting transfer money back into the team, we supposedly offered a derisory £3.5m for Fraser Forster who is worth at least £8m. There is no chance of us bringing in players of the quality of Lallana, Lovren, Shaw, Lambert, and maybe Shneiderlain. We certainly wont be spending anywhere near £100m+ which is what we will have received through outgoing players. I am devastated that we have gone from having a fantastic young team capable of breaking into the top 6 with one or two additions, to a team who will be lucky to finish mid-table. Love him or hate him Cortese leaving was the worst thing that could have happened to our club and he would never have allowed any of this to happen. Sorry but the current board is clueless. Cortese had a vision which all the players including Lallana, Lovren etc believed in. He was also signing us these quality players due to the ambition he had for the club. Shame Katherina doesn't share this ambition. Completely and utterly disappointed as this could have been our best ever chance to compete with the top six. The fact that Liverpool have bought 4 of our players and Manchester United have bought one of our players with teams such as Arsenal still wanting to buy players that are left tells it's on story in terms of what this team could have achieved. This has all happened since Cortese left and that is a fact. SaintSteve76
  • Score: 16

7:12pm Fri 25 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

Baybrit wrote:
I would be tempted to blame the players agents as well. The money they would make personally from transfer fees and increased players salaries mean that they could stir it up by pushing the player to ask for a move. Also, and I don't care how many time people say it doesn't happen, how would anybody know if Liverpool or any other team were to make a quiet behind-the-back approach to the player through his agent or even just a quiet phone call. And then, if the player has no honour and refuses to stick by a signed contract, he could then pressure the team he's with to force them to let him go.
No **** sherlock
[quote][p][bold]Baybrit[/bold] wrote: I would be tempted to blame the players agents as well. The money they would make personally from transfer fees and increased players salaries mean that they could stir it up by pushing the player to ask for a move. Also, and I don't care how many time people say it doesn't happen, how would anybody know if Liverpool or any other team were to make a quiet behind-the-back approach to the player through his agent or even just a quiet phone call. And then, if the player has no honour and refuses to stick by a signed contract, he could then pressure the team he's with to force them to let him go.[/p][/quote]No **** sherlock costa gaz
  • Score: 5

7:12pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Jesus_02 says...

M Clarke wrote:
So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.
wow are you still blind to the fact that Cortese was holding the thing together?!? You have a comic book view of him arching his fingers and putting all his energy in destroying what he worked hard to create. The only person I can see unsettling our players is Brendon Rogers and Arsen Wenger.
BTW I also think that the current board will come good. Next year is going to be tough. But if we get trough it we will have the foundations of something new and possibly better
[quote][p][bold]M Clarke[/bold] wrote: So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.[/p][/quote]wow are you still blind to the fact that Cortese was holding the thing together?!? You have a comic book view of him arching his fingers and putting all his energy in destroying what he worked hard to create. The only person I can see unsettling our players is Brendon Rogers and Arsen Wenger. BTW I also think that the current board will come good. Next year is going to be tough. But if we get trough it we will have the foundations of something new and possibly better Jesus_02
  • Score: 5

7:15pm Fri 25 Jul 14

bloke from bitterene park says...

on the one hand its all doom and gloom , on the other , we can take the money buy some good players and watch the latest batch of talent come through the ranks , at least we don't have to put up with duck hunting anymore !
on the one hand its all doom and gloom , on the other , we can take the money buy some good players and watch the latest batch of talent come through the ranks , at least we don't have to put up with duck hunting anymore ! bloke from bitterene park
  • Score: 3

7:16pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Chapperall says...

costa gaz wrote:
The price tag for MS, is now a reported £27m. The price has been set to keep Spurs and Arsenal away from him.
So sometime in the next week or so, we will have sold him for £15m to either Spurs or Arsenal.
Don't forget we are not a selling club!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: The price tag for MS, is now a reported £27m. The price has been set to keep Spurs and Arsenal away from him. So sometime in the next week or so, we will have sold him for £15m to either Spurs or Arsenal.[/p][/quote]Don't forget we are not a selling club! Chapperall
  • Score: 10

7:19pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
KING RON KOEMAN has the great advantage over Nigel adkins and also Judas (MP) in that he can attract HIGH CALIBRE PLAYERS.

HE was the one very good appointment - once judas fled.

IT WILL DO NO HARM to have a Dutch contiogent in the Team - they seemed pretty good in the World Cup and that combined with existing Players and youth means if we ACT DECISIVELY with STRONG LEADERSHIP we can move ahead to a Team that really wants to play for this Gaffer.

I WILL NOT CLAP OR SUPPORT ex Players especially the Wantaway ones - they had my support when they were at St Marys.

FIGHT AMD WIN - THE SAINTS TO GO MARCHING ON-ON-ON.
COYR+WS
Ok, we get that you won't clap any ex-players :o)

I probably won't either, except Ricky who I think is a legend in every sense of the word, but we can agree to disagree on that one.

However I think the points you make about Ronald Koeman and acting decisively are absolutely spot on. We have to act fast to allow the squad time to gel and to appease fans. We all know what a fickle place St Marys can be at the best of times - we've all hard heard people whinging when we're three nil up! If we start the season with a negative atmosphere it could prove disastrous.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: KING RON KOEMAN has the great advantage over Nigel adkins and also Judas (MP) in that he can attract HIGH CALIBRE PLAYERS. HE was the one very good appointment - once judas fled. IT WILL DO NO HARM to have a Dutch contiogent in the Team - they seemed pretty good in the World Cup and that combined with existing Players and youth means if we ACT DECISIVELY with STRONG LEADERSHIP we can move ahead to a Team that really wants to play for this Gaffer. I WILL NOT CLAP OR SUPPORT ex Players especially the Wantaway ones - they had my support when they were at St Marys. FIGHT AMD WIN - THE SAINTS TO GO MARCHING ON-ON-ON. COYR+WS[/p][/quote]Ok, we get that you won't clap any ex-players :o) I probably won't either, except Ricky who I think is a legend in every sense of the word, but we can agree to disagree on that one. However I think the points you make about Ronald Koeman and acting decisively are absolutely spot on. We have to act fast to allow the squad time to gel and to appease fans. We all know what a fickle place St Marys can be at the best of times - we've all hard heard people whinging when we're three nil up! If we start the season with a negative atmosphere it could prove disastrous. Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 2

7:20pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Chapperall says...

SaintSteve76 wrote:
Unfortunately I am slowly but surely beginning to lose interest in next season. Everything that has happened to the club over the summer is nothing short of a joke. You simply cannot sell 4-5 of your best players whatever team you are. Difference between us and Everton is that they have ambition whereas all our ambition has completely gone. We will be lucky to finish in the top 12-14. Sorry but i'm just being a realist. As for reinvesting transfer money back into the team, we supposedly offered a derisory £3.5m for Fraser Forster who is worth at least £8m. There is no chance of us bringing in players of the quality of Lallana, Lovren, Shaw, Lambert, and maybe Shneiderlain. We certainly wont be spending anywhere near £100m+ which is what we will have received through outgoing players. I am devastated that we have gone from having a fantastic young team capable of breaking into the top 6 with one or two additions, to a team who will be lucky to finish mid-table. Love him or hate him Cortese leaving was the worst thing that could have happened to our club and he would never have allowed any of this to happen. Sorry but the current board is clueless. Cortese had a vision which all the players including Lallana, Lovren etc believed in. He was also signing us these quality players due to the ambition he had for the club. Shame Katherina doesn't share this ambition. Completely and utterly disappointed as this could have been our best ever chance to compete with the top six. The fact that Liverpool have bought 4 of our players and Manchester United have bought one of our players with teams such as Arsenal still wanting to buy players that are left tells it's on story in terms of what this team could have achieved. This has all happened since Cortese left and that is a fact.
I agree with all your statements bar one. We won't end up mid table we will be in a relegation dog fight
[quote][p][bold]SaintSteve76[/bold] wrote: Unfortunately I am slowly but surely beginning to lose interest in next season. Everything that has happened to the club over the summer is nothing short of a joke. You simply cannot sell 4-5 of your best players whatever team you are. Difference between us and Everton is that they have ambition whereas all our ambition has completely gone. We will be lucky to finish in the top 12-14. Sorry but i'm just being a realist. As for reinvesting transfer money back into the team, we supposedly offered a derisory £3.5m for Fraser Forster who is worth at least £8m. There is no chance of us bringing in players of the quality of Lallana, Lovren, Shaw, Lambert, and maybe Shneiderlain. We certainly wont be spending anywhere near £100m+ which is what we will have received through outgoing players. I am devastated that we have gone from having a fantastic young team capable of breaking into the top 6 with one or two additions, to a team who will be lucky to finish mid-table. Love him or hate him Cortese leaving was the worst thing that could have happened to our club and he would never have allowed any of this to happen. Sorry but the current board is clueless. Cortese had a vision which all the players including Lallana, Lovren etc believed in. He was also signing us these quality players due to the ambition he had for the club. Shame Katherina doesn't share this ambition. Completely and utterly disappointed as this could have been our best ever chance to compete with the top six. The fact that Liverpool have bought 4 of our players and Manchester United have bought one of our players with teams such as Arsenal still wanting to buy players that are left tells it's on story in terms of what this team could have achieved. This has all happened since Cortese left and that is a fact.[/p][/quote]I agree with all your statements bar one. We won't end up mid table we will be in a relegation dog fight Chapperall
  • Score: 9

7:20pm Fri 25 Jul 14

george chivers says...

See the pied eyed scousers sitting
Perched in the sun
Stealing our players
With the point of a pen
The "Triangle" giggles
And the Albion band plays slow
Farewell Dejan Lovren
Your wallet's on fire
Now it's your turn to go.

With apologies to Bob and Poz.
See the pied eyed scousers sitting Perched in the sun Stealing our players With the point of a pen The "Triangle" giggles And the Albion band plays slow Farewell Dejan Lovren Your wallet's on fire Now it's your turn to go. With apologies to Bob and Poz. george chivers
  • Score: 5

7:21pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Woodgreen Saint says...

SaintSteve76 wrote:
Unfortunately I am slowly but surely beginning to lose interest in next season. Everything that has happened to the club over the summer is nothing short of a joke. You simply cannot sell 4-5 of your best players whatever team you are. Difference between us and Everton is that they have ambition whereas all our ambition has completely gone. We will be lucky to finish in the top 12-14. Sorry but i'm just being a realist. As for reinvesting transfer money back into the team, we supposedly offered a derisory £3.5m for Fraser Forster who is worth at least £8m. There is no chance of us bringing in players of the quality of Lallana, Lovren, Shaw, Lambert, and maybe Shneiderlain. We certainly wont be spending anywhere near £100m+ which is what we will have received through outgoing players. I am devastated that we have gone from having a fantastic young team capable of breaking into the top 6 with one or two additions, to a team who will be lucky to finish mid-table. Love him or hate him Cortese leaving was the worst thing that could have happened to our club and he would never have allowed any of this to happen. Sorry but the current board is clueless. Cortese had a vision which all the players including Lallana, Lovren etc believed in. He was also signing us these quality players due to the ambition he had for the club. Shame Katherina doesn't share this ambition. Completely and utterly disappointed as this could have been our best ever chance to compete with the top six. The fact that Liverpool have bought 4 of our players and Manchester United have bought one of our players with teams such as Arsenal still wanting to buy players that are left tells it's on story in terms of what this team could have achieved. This has all happened since Cortese left and that is a fact.
Great post.. With the team as weak as it is now I fear we will struggle to attract the good players.
[quote][p][bold]SaintSteve76[/bold] wrote: Unfortunately I am slowly but surely beginning to lose interest in next season. Everything that has happened to the club over the summer is nothing short of a joke. You simply cannot sell 4-5 of your best players whatever team you are. Difference between us and Everton is that they have ambition whereas all our ambition has completely gone. We will be lucky to finish in the top 12-14. Sorry but i'm just being a realist. As for reinvesting transfer money back into the team, we supposedly offered a derisory £3.5m for Fraser Forster who is worth at least £8m. There is no chance of us bringing in players of the quality of Lallana, Lovren, Shaw, Lambert, and maybe Shneiderlain. We certainly wont be spending anywhere near £100m+ which is what we will have received through outgoing players. I am devastated that we have gone from having a fantastic young team capable of breaking into the top 6 with one or two additions, to a team who will be lucky to finish mid-table. Love him or hate him Cortese leaving was the worst thing that could have happened to our club and he would never have allowed any of this to happen. Sorry but the current board is clueless. Cortese had a vision which all the players including Lallana, Lovren etc believed in. He was also signing us these quality players due to the ambition he had for the club. Shame Katherina doesn't share this ambition. Completely and utterly disappointed as this could have been our best ever chance to compete with the top six. The fact that Liverpool have bought 4 of our players and Manchester United have bought one of our players with teams such as Arsenal still wanting to buy players that are left tells it's on story in terms of what this team could have achieved. This has all happened since Cortese left and that is a fact.[/p][/quote]Great post.. With the team as weak as it is now I fear we will struggle to attract the good players. Woodgreen Saint
  • Score: 3

7:21pm Fri 25 Jul 14

long memory says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
I expect football clubs the length and breadth of Europe are following these pages in the hope of tapping up one of you miserable sods as their next manager. You're all clearly so much more knowledgeable and experienced than what they have, and with the added bonus that you're all psychic and know exactly what the current manager, owner and board are thinking.
I bet some of you were among the tw@ts screaming "I hope we get relegated" the day NA got sacked.
To borrow from the Nike campaign from a few World Cups ago: "Armchair football manager. Easiest job in the world".
IOC,100% in agreement,well said for standing out in the crowd of the miserable negative supporters.
I feel at the moment we must have the most negative whinging supporters in the country,and I hope RK doesn't read the drivel these so called fans are spouting,if he does read it wouldn't be surprised if he is the next one to leave.
I for one have total trust,and it is a pity some of you have no backbone.
I have been a supporter for 56 years,through good and bad,and never will I capitulate when things don't go as I wish they should.Never been so angry with some of the lily livered instant gratification,headle
ss chickens, so called fans we have coming on this site,grow a pair will you. In Rk staff,,board and players,I have total trust and belief.
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: I expect football clubs the length and breadth of Europe are following these pages in the hope of tapping up one of you miserable sods as their next manager. You're all clearly so much more knowledgeable and experienced than what they have, and with the added bonus that you're all psychic and know exactly what the current manager, owner and board are thinking. I bet some of you were among the tw@ts screaming "I hope we get relegated" the day NA got sacked. To borrow from the Nike campaign from a few World Cups ago: "Armchair football manager. Easiest job in the world".[/p][/quote]IOC,100% in agreement,well said for standing out in the crowd of the miserable negative supporters. I feel at the moment we must have the most negative whinging supporters in the country,and I hope RK doesn't read the drivel these so called fans are spouting,if he does read it wouldn't be surprised if he is the next one to leave. I for one have total trust,and it is a pity some of you have no backbone. I have been a supporter for 56 years,through good and bad,and never will I capitulate when things don't go as I wish they should.Never been so angry with some of the lily livered instant gratification,headle ss chickens, so called fans we have coming on this site,grow a pair will you. In Rk staff,,board and players,I have total trust and belief. long memory
  • Score: -7

7:22pm Fri 25 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

pintsizedsaint wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer.
More to follow next week.

Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren?
A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good.


Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best.
Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week.

101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months.
:-(
Let's see what happens at the end of the season. If we're relegated then you're right. If we do well (top ten finish) then I hope people come onto this site and have the grace to admit they were wrong.

Yes it's tough, but Lovren and AL didn't want to stay. They are replaceable. Any football player is replaceable. We've covered AL and SRL already. We already have players at Saints ready to replace Shaw. Hell - even if Spider-Man left we have Cork!

Don't get me wrong I too would have preferred them to stay. But they didn't. We got top dollar for all of them which will be put back into the club. You can either trust the new management and get behind the players or spend your time writing doom and gloom on sites like this. I know which one I prefer!
I personally do not think we will be relegated, there will still be 7/8 worse teams than us next season.
But finishing in the top ten will be tough.
[quote][p][bold]pintsizedsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer. More to follow next week. Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren? A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good. Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best. Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week. 101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months. :-([/p][/quote]Let's see what happens at the end of the season. If we're relegated then you're right. If we do well (top ten finish) then I hope people come onto this site and have the grace to admit they were wrong. Yes it's tough, but Lovren and AL didn't want to stay. They are replaceable. Any football player is replaceable. We've covered AL and SRL already. We already have players at Saints ready to replace Shaw. Hell - even if Spider-Man left we have Cork! Don't get me wrong I too would have preferred them to stay. But they didn't. We got top dollar for all of them which will be put back into the club. You can either trust the new management and get behind the players or spend your time writing doom and gloom on sites like this. I know which one I prefer![/p][/quote]I personally do not think we will be relegated, there will still be 7/8 worse teams than us next season. But finishing in the top ten will be tough. costa gaz
  • Score: 17

7:24pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Egomaniac says...

SaintSherman wrote:
With a further £20 million in the Southampton bank there is more then enough to replace Lovren. Despite the fact that the time is running out before the season starts it's vital to get in the right players for the right price.
Every player is replaceable especially those with a poor attitude, we go again next season and with Koeman in charge I have full faith he can build a competitive team.
Absolutely right Sherman!

Those who are moaning about not being a selling club do not seem to understand the philosophy of football! There is NO way you can keep a player against his wishes. Suarez was an exception last season, but I think he knew he was on to a good think staying at Liverpool for another season - but he's gone now.

Shaw, Lallana and Lovren clearly did not want to stay with us. They had heads and hearts turned in Brazil. As Ron says - we don't want players who do not wish to be here, so good riddance to them and thanks for their contributions in the past.

I personally have faith in Ron and believe he is quietly going about his business for the sake of our great Club. Certainly I think we will find the initial few games of the season hard going, but I have faith that Ron will gell the players into a strong and formidable team in the longer term.

Time to be positive, have faith everyone - good times will be back in abundance. Just give all the staff at SFC our support - players, manager and back room personal too.
[quote][p][bold]SaintSherman[/bold] wrote: With a further £20 million in the Southampton bank there is more then enough to replace Lovren. Despite the fact that the time is running out before the season starts it's vital to get in the right players for the right price. Every player is replaceable especially those with a poor attitude, we go again next season and with Koeman in charge I have full faith he can build a competitive team.[/p][/quote]Absolutely right Sherman! Those who are moaning about not being a selling club do not seem to understand the philosophy of football! There is NO way you can keep a player against his wishes. Suarez was an exception last season, but I think he knew he was on to a good think staying at Liverpool for another season - but he's gone now. Shaw, Lallana and Lovren clearly did not want to stay with us. They had heads and hearts turned in Brazil. As Ron says - we don't want players who do not wish to be here, so good riddance to them and thanks for their contributions in the past. I personally have faith in Ron and believe he is quietly going about his business for the sake of our great Club. Certainly I think we will find the initial few games of the season hard going, but I have faith that Ron will gell the players into a strong and formidable team in the longer term. Time to be positive, have faith everyone - good times will be back in abundance. Just give all the staff at SFC our support - players, manager and back room personal too. Egomaniac
  • Score: -3

7:25pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Halo Saint says...

Feeling nervous about our squad for next season now.Yes we have bought players BUT they are unproven in the PREMIERSHIP !! I hope my nerves are wrong and the players are absolute beauties who scare all defenders of any team.
We keep getting reassured that no one else will be leaving then we get kicked in the b@lls with the selling of another player.They have had their heads turned by bigger wages from a "bigger" club THAT will NEVER win the premiership as both Manchester teams Arsenal & Chelsea are miles better BUT if they want to leave then let them as keeping a player whos' heart isnt in the squad will perform poorly.Rickie is the exception to this as he was a great servant to our club & got us where we are today SO he deserves his chance with Liverhampton.
The BOARD needs to be totally HONEST with us the fans & stop thinking we are flies who will feed on any sh!t they throw our way because ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!!

COYS
Feeling nervous about our squad for next season now.Yes we have bought players BUT they are unproven in the PREMIERSHIP !! I hope my nerves are wrong and the players are absolute beauties who scare all defenders of any team. We keep getting reassured that no one else will be leaving then we get kicked in the b@lls with the selling of another player.They have had their heads turned by bigger wages from a "bigger" club THAT will NEVER win the premiership as both Manchester teams Arsenal & Chelsea are miles better BUT if they want to leave then let them as keeping a player whos' heart isnt in the squad will perform poorly.Rickie is the exception to this as he was a great servant to our club & got us where we are today SO he deserves his chance with Liverhampton. The BOARD needs to be totally HONEST with us the fans & stop thinking we are flies who will feed on any sh!t they throw our way because ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!! COYS Halo Saint
  • Score: 6

7:26pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Chapperall says...

costa gaz wrote:
The price tag for MS, is now a reported £27m. The price has been set to keep Spurs and Arsenal away from him.
So sometime in the next week or so, we will have sold him for £15m to either Spurs or Arsenal.
Don't forget we are not a selling club!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: The price tag for MS, is now a reported £27m. The price has been set to keep Spurs and Arsenal away from him. So sometime in the next week or so, we will have sold him for £15m to either Spurs or Arsenal.[/p][/quote]Don't forget we are not a selling club! Chapperall
  • Score: 13

7:26pm Fri 25 Jul 14

long memory says...

Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Sir,that is an absolutely disgraceful comment to make,hang your head in shame.
[quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Sir,that is an absolutely disgraceful comment to make,hang your head in shame. long memory
  • Score: 0

7:27pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Woodgreen Saint says...

Does anyone know where our chairman is while all this is going on???
Does anyone know where our chairman is while all this is going on??? Woodgreen Saint
  • Score: 0

7:30pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Malcombe says...

jason odd

Have you had your head in the Sand since January this year? If you have I'll update you regarding Southampton Players. I would like to inform you that Rickie Lambert who is a fantastic Player was transferred to Liverpool for £5million possibly as bait for others to join him, in Football he could be in his twilight years but for Rickie it was a dream come true, he's been very honest and got his wish that he's had since a child to play for Liverpool and for that he has the Southampton Supporters best wishes and he will be missed, Adam Lallana was seduced possibly with more money and help from his Agent and Steven Gerrard who could of had instructions from Brendan Rodgers this we'll never know, he too wanted to leave his excuse he wanted CLF so he didn't want to play for Southampton again, he's probably increased his Salary by 2/3rds and sold for a very good fee of £26million, Luke Shaw was also seduced with the thought of increasing his monthly Salary by 4/5th he was sold for £27million and did not want to play for Southampton FC again, Dejan Lovren has now been sold for £20 million, he made it very obvious by saying the song of Gerry Marsden singing gave him goose bumps and his head was already in Liverpool, goodness knows where the rest of his body was, he too had no intentions of wanting to stay and play for Southampton FC.

Imagine your are Les Reed and you probably knew these Players wanted to leave early this year and you've had to sit down with these definitely want away don't want to play for Southampton again Players how would you handle this problem, would you lock them in a room or Barn until they scream ok I'll stay and play for Southampton I'm sorry I won't complain again ? They did not want to stay and play for Southampton ever again is that clear to you because it is to thousands of the Supporters? Not one Supporter wanted any of these Players to leave, it's been a horrible few months, the Team was the best it's ever been and the thought of progress continuing on next season was even more exciting but they were being Coached by a very dishonest man Potchettino not that any of us suspected this, IMO he Coached and Managed this year under total false pretences, it's fair to say he introduced a style of play that had admiration from Football Fans all over the world but this year he proved to be disloyal and a liar, his head wasn't in Southampton it was to a rival Premiership Club and it also coincided with the exodus of Players, did he have an influence and encouraged the Players to leave Southampton? We all hope it's the end of Players leaving but it possibly hasn't stopped yet, Morgan Schneiderlin and the very latest news Callum Chambers could be going to Arsenal another horrible moment for the Supporters, Les Reed has been castigated this year but IOM he would tread over hot coals to keep all these Players at Southampton but the Players know the way to manipulate the Club and disrespect and ignore any contract they sign.

Les Reed has a thankless task and IMO knew the Players wanted out but could not reveal the truth he instead has to be diplomatic to all the Supporters he has to choose his words, he probably would love to be transparent but it's not always wise as it could cause disruption to soon to a Club who's Players are playing the best the have ever played and there valuation could drop dramatically when hell breaks out.
The essence of this post is don't blame Les and the Board blame the Players who wanted out because a seed was sown possibly by Potchettino and they were all motivated by him and loyalty is just a word but money money money has a desired affect.
Now is the time to be positive and move on and give 100% support love and trust to Southampton Football Club The Saints.
jason odd Have you had your head in the Sand since January this year? If you have I'll update you regarding Southampton Players. I would like to inform you that Rickie Lambert who is a fantastic Player was transferred to Liverpool for £5million possibly as bait for others to join him, in Football he could be in his twilight years but for Rickie it was a dream come true, he's been very honest and got his wish that he's had since a child to play for Liverpool and for that he has the Southampton Supporters best wishes and he will be missed, Adam Lallana was seduced possibly with more money and help from his Agent and Steven Gerrard who could of had instructions from Brendan Rodgers this we'll never know, he too wanted to leave his excuse he wanted CLF so he didn't want to play for Southampton again, he's probably increased his Salary by 2/3rds and sold for a very good fee of £26million, Luke Shaw was also seduced with the thought of increasing his monthly Salary by 4/5th he was sold for £27million and did not want to play for Southampton FC again, Dejan Lovren has now been sold for £20 million, he made it very obvious by saying the song of Gerry Marsden singing gave him goose bumps and his head was already in Liverpool, goodness knows where the rest of his body was, he too had no intentions of wanting to stay and play for Southampton FC. Imagine your are Les Reed and you probably knew these Players wanted to leave early this year and you've had to sit down with these definitely want away don't want to play for Southampton again Players how would you handle this problem, would you lock them in a room or Barn until they scream ok I'll stay and play for Southampton I'm sorry I won't complain again ? They did not want to stay and play for Southampton ever again is that clear to you because it is to thousands of the Supporters? Not one Supporter wanted any of these Players to leave, it's been a horrible few months, the Team was the best it's ever been and the thought of progress continuing on next season was even more exciting but they were being Coached by a very dishonest man Potchettino not that any of us suspected this, IMO he Coached and Managed this year under total false pretences, it's fair to say he introduced a style of play that had admiration from Football Fans all over the world but this year he proved to be disloyal and a liar, his head wasn't in Southampton it was to a rival Premiership Club and it also coincided with the exodus of Players, did he have an influence and encouraged the Players to leave Southampton? We all hope it's the end of Players leaving but it possibly hasn't stopped yet, Morgan Schneiderlin and the very latest news Callum Chambers could be going to Arsenal another horrible moment for the Supporters, Les Reed has been castigated this year but IOM he would tread over hot coals to keep all these Players at Southampton but the Players know the way to manipulate the Club and disrespect and ignore any contract they sign. Les Reed has a thankless task and IMO knew the Players wanted out but could not reveal the truth he instead has to be diplomatic to all the Supporters he has to choose his words, he probably would love to be transparent but it's not always wise as it could cause disruption to soon to a Club who's Players are playing the best the have ever played and there valuation could drop dramatically when hell breaks out. The essence of this post is don't blame Les and the Board blame the Players who wanted out because a seed was sown possibly by Potchettino and they were all motivated by him and loyalty is just a word but money money money has a desired affect. Now is the time to be positive and move on and give 100% support love and trust to Southampton Football Club The Saints. Malcombe
  • Score: -7

7:31pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Beer Monster says...

ItchenBridger wrote:
KSO16R wrote:
More flapping than a flock of seagulls on clarence pier.
Clarence Pier ?
Alright if you like to sit and watch the ferries!
The pub down there isn't too bad - classy enough to keep the riff raff out. Mostly.
[quote][p][bold]ItchenBridger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: More flapping than a flock of seagulls on clarence pier.[/p][/quote]Clarence Pier ? Alright if you like to sit and watch the ferries![/p][/quote]The pub down there isn't too bad - classy enough to keep the riff raff out. Mostly. Beer Monster
  • Score: 3

7:31pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jasons odd says...

Malcombe wrote:
jason odd

Have you had your head in the Sand since January this year? If you have I'll update you regarding Southampton Players. I would like to inform you that Rickie Lambert who is a fantastic Player was transferred to Liverpool for £5million possibly as bait for others to join him, in Football he could be in his twilight years but for Rickie it was a dream come true, he's been very honest and got his wish that he's had since a child to play for Liverpool and for that he has the Southampton Supporters best wishes and he will be missed, Adam Lallana was seduced possibly with more money and help from his Agent and Steven Gerrard who could of had instructions from Brendan Rodgers this we'll never know, he too wanted to leave his excuse he wanted CLF so he didn't want to play for Southampton again, he's probably increased his Salary by 2/3rds and sold for a very good fee of £26million, Luke Shaw was also seduced with the thought of increasing his monthly Salary by 4/5th he was sold for £27million and did not want to play for Southampton FC again, Dejan Lovren has now been sold for £20 million, he made it very obvious by saying the song of Gerry Marsden singing gave him goose bumps and his head was already in Liverpool, goodness knows where the rest of his body was, he too had no intentions of wanting to stay and play for Southampton FC.

Imagine your are Les Reed and you probably knew these Players wanted to leave early this year and you've had to sit down with these definitely want away don't want to play for Southampton again Players how would you handle this problem, would you lock them in a room or Barn until they scream ok I'll stay and play for Southampton I'm sorry I won't complain again ? They did not want to stay and play for Southampton ever again is that clear to you because it is to thousands of the Supporters? Not one Supporter wanted any of these Players to leave, it's been a horrible few months, the Team was the best it's ever been and the thought of progress continuing on next season was even more exciting but they were being Coached by a very dishonest man Potchettino not that any of us suspected this, IMO he Coached and Managed this year under total false pretences, it's fair to say he introduced a style of play that had admiration from Football Fans all over the world but this year he proved to be disloyal and a liar, his head wasn't in Southampton it was to a rival Premiership Club and it also coincided with the exodus of Players, did he have an influence and encouraged the Players to leave Southampton? We all hope it's the end of Players leaving but it possibly hasn't stopped yet, Morgan Schneiderlin and the very latest news Callum Chambers could be going to Arsenal another horrible moment for the Supporters, Les Reed has been castigated this year but IOM he would tread over hot coals to keep all these Players at Southampton but the Players know the way to manipulate the Club and disrespect and ignore any contract they sign.

Les Reed has a thankless task and IMO knew the Players wanted out but could not reveal the truth he instead has to be diplomatic to all the Supporters he has to choose his words, he probably would love to be transparent but it's not always wise as it could cause disruption to soon to a Club who's Players are playing the best the have ever played and there valuation could drop dramatically when hell breaks out.
The essence of this post is don't blame Les and the Board blame the Players who wanted out because a seed was sown possibly by Potchettino and they were all motivated by him and loyalty is just a word but money money money has a desired affect.
Now is the time to be positive and move on and give 100% support love and trust to Southampton Football Club The Saints.
Deluded
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: jason odd Have you had your head in the Sand since January this year? If you have I'll update you regarding Southampton Players. I would like to inform you that Rickie Lambert who is a fantastic Player was transferred to Liverpool for £5million possibly as bait for others to join him, in Football he could be in his twilight years but for Rickie it was a dream come true, he's been very honest and got his wish that he's had since a child to play for Liverpool and for that he has the Southampton Supporters best wishes and he will be missed, Adam Lallana was seduced possibly with more money and help from his Agent and Steven Gerrard who could of had instructions from Brendan Rodgers this we'll never know, he too wanted to leave his excuse he wanted CLF so he didn't want to play for Southampton again, he's probably increased his Salary by 2/3rds and sold for a very good fee of £26million, Luke Shaw was also seduced with the thought of increasing his monthly Salary by 4/5th he was sold for £27million and did not want to play for Southampton FC again, Dejan Lovren has now been sold for £20 million, he made it very obvious by saying the song of Gerry Marsden singing gave him goose bumps and his head was already in Liverpool, goodness knows where the rest of his body was, he too had no intentions of wanting to stay and play for Southampton FC. Imagine your are Les Reed and you probably knew these Players wanted to leave early this year and you've had to sit down with these definitely want away don't want to play for Southampton again Players how would you handle this problem, would you lock them in a room or Barn until they scream ok I'll stay and play for Southampton I'm sorry I won't complain again ? They did not want to stay and play for Southampton ever again is that clear to you because it is to thousands of the Supporters? Not one Supporter wanted any of these Players to leave, it's been a horrible few months, the Team was the best it's ever been and the thought of progress continuing on next season was even more exciting but they were being Coached by a very dishonest man Potchettino not that any of us suspected this, IMO he Coached and Managed this year under total false pretences, it's fair to say he introduced a style of play that had admiration from Football Fans all over the world but this year he proved to be disloyal and a liar, his head wasn't in Southampton it was to a rival Premiership Club and it also coincided with the exodus of Players, did he have an influence and encouraged the Players to leave Southampton? We all hope it's the end of Players leaving but it possibly hasn't stopped yet, Morgan Schneiderlin and the very latest news Callum Chambers could be going to Arsenal another horrible moment for the Supporters, Les Reed has been castigated this year but IOM he would tread over hot coals to keep all these Players at Southampton but the Players know the way to manipulate the Club and disrespect and ignore any contract they sign. Les Reed has a thankless task and IMO knew the Players wanted out but could not reveal the truth he instead has to be diplomatic to all the Supporters he has to choose his words, he probably would love to be transparent but it's not always wise as it could cause disruption to soon to a Club who's Players are playing the best the have ever played and there valuation could drop dramatically when hell breaks out. The essence of this post is don't blame Les and the Board blame the Players who wanted out because a seed was sown possibly by Potchettino and they were all motivated by him and loyalty is just a word but money money money has a desired affect. Now is the time to be positive and move on and give 100% support love and trust to Southampton Football Club The Saints.[/p][/quote]Deluded jasons odd
  • Score: 11

7:32pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Egomaniac says...

long memory wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
I expect football clubs the length and breadth of Europe are following these pages in the hope of tapping up one of you miserable sods as their next manager. You're all clearly so much more knowledgeable and experienced than what they have, and with the added bonus that you're all psychic and know exactly what the current manager, owner and board are thinking.
I bet some of you were among the tw@ts screaming "I hope we get relegated" the day NA got sacked.
To borrow from the Nike campaign from a few World Cups ago: "Armchair football manager. Easiest job in the world".
IOC,100% in agreement,well said for standing out in the crowd of the miserable negative supporters.
I feel at the moment we must have the most negative whinging supporters in the country,and I hope RK doesn't read the drivel these so called fans are spouting,if he does read it wouldn't be surprised if he is the next one to leave.
I for one have total trust,and it is a pity some of you have no backbone.
I have been a supporter for 56 years,through good and bad,and never will I capitulate when things don't go as I wish they should.Never been so angry with some of the lily livered instant gratification,headle

ss chickens, so called fans we have coming on this site,grow a pair will you. In Rk staff,,board and players,I have total trust and belief.
Spot on IOC and long memory! Positive thinkers and optimists. I have also been a long term supporter of SFC (65 years!) ad at the age of 73 I have no intention of capitulating to the doom mongers.

In RK I have faith, in SFC I have faith.

Long live SFC!!
[quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: I expect football clubs the length and breadth of Europe are following these pages in the hope of tapping up one of you miserable sods as their next manager. You're all clearly so much more knowledgeable and experienced than what they have, and with the added bonus that you're all psychic and know exactly what the current manager, owner and board are thinking. I bet some of you were among the tw@ts screaming "I hope we get relegated" the day NA got sacked. To borrow from the Nike campaign from a few World Cups ago: "Armchair football manager. Easiest job in the world".[/p][/quote]IOC,100% in agreement,well said for standing out in the crowd of the miserable negative supporters. I feel at the moment we must have the most negative whinging supporters in the country,and I hope RK doesn't read the drivel these so called fans are spouting,if he does read it wouldn't be surprised if he is the next one to leave. I for one have total trust,and it is a pity some of you have no backbone. I have been a supporter for 56 years,through good and bad,and never will I capitulate when things don't go as I wish they should.Never been so angry with some of the lily livered instant gratification,headle ss chickens, so called fans we have coming on this site,grow a pair will you. In Rk staff,,board and players,I have total trust and belief.[/p][/quote]Spot on IOC and long memory! Positive thinkers and optimists. I have also been a long term supporter of SFC (65 years!) ad at the age of 73 I have no intention of capitulating to the doom mongers. In RK I have faith, in SFC I have faith. Long live SFC!! Egomaniac
  • Score: 0

7:34pm Fri 25 Jul 14

tinas says...

It says on the Guardian website that:
A) Saints have had no bids for Morgan Schneiderlin
B) They have told Spurs that they won't sell him for less than £27m
Wtf? Up to now I've been giving the board the benefit of the doubt, but it really is starting to stink.
It says on the Guardian website that: A) Saints have had no bids for Morgan Schneiderlin B) They have told Spurs that they won't sell him for less than £27m Wtf? Up to now I've been giving the board the benefit of the doubt, but it really is starting to stink. tinas
  • Score: 5

7:34pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Egomaniac says...

long memory wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Sir,that is an absolutely disgraceful comment to make,hang your head in shame.
Forest Saint, be ashamed - what a disgusting and shameful thing to post.
[quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Sir,that is an absolutely disgraceful comment to make,hang your head in shame.[/p][/quote]Forest Saint, be ashamed - what a disgusting and shameful thing to post. Egomaniac
  • Score: -3

7:43pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

Egomaniac wrote:
long memory wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Sir,that is an absolutely disgraceful comment to make,hang your head in shame.
Forest Saint, be ashamed - what a disgusting and shameful thing to post.
How the hell do you end up getting -3 for this post!? I am slowly but surely losing patience and belief in so called Saints fans on here.
[quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Sir,that is an absolutely disgraceful comment to make,hang your head in shame.[/p][/quote]Forest Saint, be ashamed - what a disgusting and shameful thing to post.[/p][/quote]How the hell do you end up getting -3 for this post!? I am slowly but surely losing patience and belief in so called Saints fans on here. Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 1

7:46pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Woodgreen Saint wrote:
Does anyone know where our chairman is while all this is going on???
It's a secret if we told you we would have to terminate you.
[quote][p][bold]Woodgreen Saint[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know where our chairman is while all this is going on???[/p][/quote]It's a secret if we told you we would have to terminate you. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

7:48pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

Enrico Palazzo wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
long memory wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Sir,that is an absolutely disgraceful comment to make,hang your head in shame.
Forest Saint, be ashamed - what a disgusting and shameful thing to post.
How the hell do you end up getting -3 for this post!? I am slowly but surely losing patience and belief in so called Saints fans on here.
There are clearly some total tw*ts who use this site. Instead of anonymously putting thumbs down, respond in person and say why you give a negative marks to people standing up for the Liebherr family. Show some spine.
[quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Sir,that is an absolutely disgraceful comment to make,hang your head in shame.[/p][/quote]Forest Saint, be ashamed - what a disgusting and shameful thing to post.[/p][/quote]How the hell do you end up getting -3 for this post!? I am slowly but surely losing patience and belief in so called Saints fans on here.[/p][/quote]There are clearly some total tw*ts who use this site. Instead of anonymously putting thumbs down, respond in person and say why you give a negative marks to people standing up for the Liebherr family. Show some spine. Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: -1

7:49pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Enrico Palazzo wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
long memory wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Sir,that is an absolutely disgraceful comment to make,hang your head in shame.
Forest Saint, be ashamed - what a disgusting and shameful thing to post.
How the hell do you end up getting -3 for this post!? I am slowly but surely losing patience and belief in so called Saints fans on here.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that they are genuine Saints fans, they aren't, just WUMs.
[quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Sir,that is an absolutely disgraceful comment to make,hang your head in shame.[/p][/quote]Forest Saint, be ashamed - what a disgusting and shameful thing to post.[/p][/quote]How the hell do you end up getting -3 for this post!? I am slowly but surely losing patience and belief in so called Saints fans on here.[/p][/quote]Don't make the mistake of thinking that they are genuine Saints fans, they aren't, just WUMs. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

7:52pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Chapperall says...

Egomaniac wrote:
long memory wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
I expect football clubs the length and breadth of Europe are following these pages in the hope of tapping up one of you miserable sods as their next manager. You're all clearly so much more knowledgeable and experienced than what they have, and with the added bonus that you're all psychic and know exactly what the current manager, owner and board are thinking.
I bet some of you were among the tw@ts screaming "I hope we get relegated" the day NA got sacked.
To borrow from the Nike campaign from a few World Cups ago: "Armchair football manager. Easiest job in the world".
IOC,100% in agreement,well said for standing out in the crowd of the miserable negative supporters.
I feel at the moment we must have the most negative whinging supporters in the country,and I hope RK doesn't read the drivel these so called fans are spouting,if he does read it wouldn't be surprised if he is the next one to leave.
I for one have total trust,and it is a pity some of you have no backbone.
I have been a supporter for 56 years,through good and bad,and never will I capitulate when things don't go as I wish they should.Never been so angry with some of the lily livered instant gratification,headle


ss chickens, so called fans we have coming on this site,grow a pair will you. In Rk staff,,board and players,I have total trust and belief.
Spot on IOC and long memory! Positive thinkers and optimists. I have also been a long term supporter of SFC (65 years!) ad at the age of 73 I have no intention of capitulating to the doom mongers.

In RK I have faith, in SFC I have faith.

Long live SFC!!
Dream on
[quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: I expect football clubs the length and breadth of Europe are following these pages in the hope of tapping up one of you miserable sods as their next manager. You're all clearly so much more knowledgeable and experienced than what they have, and with the added bonus that you're all psychic and know exactly what the current manager, owner and board are thinking. I bet some of you were among the tw@ts screaming "I hope we get relegated" the day NA got sacked. To borrow from the Nike campaign from a few World Cups ago: "Armchair football manager. Easiest job in the world".[/p][/quote]IOC,100% in agreement,well said for standing out in the crowd of the miserable negative supporters. I feel at the moment we must have the most negative whinging supporters in the country,and I hope RK doesn't read the drivel these so called fans are spouting,if he does read it wouldn't be surprised if he is the next one to leave. I for one have total trust,and it is a pity some of you have no backbone. I have been a supporter for 56 years,through good and bad,and never will I capitulate when things don't go as I wish they should.Never been so angry with some of the lily livered instant gratification,headle ss chickens, so called fans we have coming on this site,grow a pair will you. In Rk staff,,board and players,I have total trust and belief.[/p][/quote]Spot on IOC and long memory! Positive thinkers and optimists. I have also been a long term supporter of SFC (65 years!) ad at the age of 73 I have no intention of capitulating to the doom mongers. In RK I have faith, in SFC I have faith. Long live SFC!![/p][/quote]Dream on Chapperall
  • Score: 3

7:53pm Fri 25 Jul 14

knuckle dragger says...

costa gaz wrote:
All the hatred and bile directed at our departing players is playing straight in the hands of our inept board.
Ask your self why the exodus.... one reason : low PL wages.

Other clubs are investing in quality players, improving their squads.
Our board is penny pinching, selling the family silver and buying copper/brass replacements and hoping it'll be just as valuable.

If I was a shareholder I'd be over the moon, but it would only be a short term investment as the board seem to be only looking short term imho.
Do you want Saints to go in to administration again???
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: All the hatred and bile directed at our departing players is playing straight in the hands of our inept board. Ask your self why the exodus.... one reason : low PL wages. Other clubs are investing in quality players, improving their squads. Our board is penny pinching, selling the family silver and buying copper/brass replacements and hoping it'll be just as valuable. If I was a shareholder I'd be over the moon, but it would only be a short term investment as the board seem to be only looking short term imho.[/p][/quote]Do you want Saints to go in to administration again??? knuckle dragger
  • Score: -1

7:53pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

good riddance to Lovren,
great bit of business by Saints, off the back of one seasons performance we made what.... 12 million? lovely.

so then let's see what we have - some great talent coming from the academy, some pretty good heads left over.

onwards and upwards.
good riddance to Lovren, great bit of business by Saints, off the back of one seasons performance we made what.... 12 million? lovely. so then let's see what we have - some great talent coming from the academy, some pretty good heads left over. onwards and upwards. Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: 3

7:54pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Graham, North of Watford says...

saint robbie wrote:
Great deal.
He wanted to leave and saints have made 11.5 million in a year. We should be able to get two decent CBs for that 20 Million and why keep a player who wants to go? He would never give 100% if he stayed and would only cause disrupt.
I have to say that there are still so many negative comments and a lot of people panicking on here for no reason.
As Koeman stated any player who leaves will be replaced with better players, so far this is true apart from a LB where by all accounts the lad Targett is just as good if not better than Shaw.

I for one fully trust the owner, board and manager and believe that we are in a far better position now than we were this time last year.
St Robbie,

I'm with you, your Saintliness.

I trust the Manager and the Board to do right by the Club-in all honesty I have no choice.

Much more importantly I think they are all in the positions they have to move the Club forward.

I think it's been posted before but now is the time to support the Club and not keep on with the negative views.

Positive criticism And strong, positive commentary helps everyone.

I support the Club and we've all been through a dark time over recent years.

My personal disappointment is that there has not been one player from the front rank who has chosen to stay with the Club. I do understand that a player has to look after his own interests and those of his family first but it leaves a bitter taste to see them all going at once.
[quote][p][bold]saint robbie[/bold] wrote: Great deal. He wanted to leave and saints have made 11.5 million in a year. We should be able to get two decent CBs for that 20 Million and why keep a player who wants to go? He would never give 100% if he stayed and would only cause disrupt. I have to say that there are still so many negative comments and a lot of people panicking on here for no reason. As Koeman stated any player who leaves will be replaced with better players, so far this is true apart from a LB where by all accounts the lad Targett is just as good if not better than Shaw. I for one fully trust the owner, board and manager and believe that we are in a far better position now than we were this time last year.[/p][/quote]St Robbie, I'm with you, your Saintliness. I trust the Manager and the Board to do right by the Club-in all honesty I have no choice. Much more importantly I think they are all in the positions they have to move the Club forward. I think it's been posted before but now is the time to support the Club and not keep on with the negative views. Positive criticism And strong, positive commentary helps everyone. I support the Club and we've all been through a dark time over recent years. My personal disappointment is that there has not been one player from the front rank who has chosen to stay with the Club. I do understand that a player has to look after his own interests and those of his family first but it leaves a bitter taste to see them all going at once. Graham, North of Watford
  • Score: 2

7:55pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Clever Dick says...

Billy liar wrote:
Saints. Richest club in championship...
.


R. Soles
Pooperscoopers. Poorest club in the bargain basement.
[quote][p][bold]Billy liar[/bold] wrote: Saints. Richest club in championship... . R. Soles[/p][/quote]Pooperscoopers. Poorest club in the bargain basement. Clever Dick
  • Score: 4

7:56pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Skating on thin ice says...

Bought: £8M

Sold 1 year later: £20M

Good business. Especially for your owner, who will be paid the "special dividend" out of the company's "trading profits" next year.

The Board will agree to that. Of course they will, because they are all her placemen.

Meanwhile, the Koko brothers are floudering about, trying to sign cheap Dutch players. They were promised a "large chest" for transfers. Well, now they are realising that the only "large chest" is
Bought: £8M Sold 1 year later: £20M Good business. Especially for your owner, who will be paid the "special dividend" out of the company's "trading profits" next year. The Board will agree to that. Of course they will, because they are all her placemen. Meanwhile, the Koko brothers are floudering about, trying to sign cheap Dutch players. They were promised a "large chest" for transfers. Well, now they are realising that the only "large chest" is Skating on thin ice
  • Score: -2

7:56pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

There is a match thread if you are interested.
There is a match thread if you are interested. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

7:58pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
long memory wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Sir,that is an absolutely disgraceful comment to make,hang your head in shame.
Forest Saint, be ashamed - what a disgusting and shameful thing to post.
How the hell do you end up getting -3 for this post!? I am slowly but surely losing patience and belief in so called Saints fans on here.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that they are genuine Saints fans, they aren't, just WUMs.
Osprey, do you honestly think there's even any point speculating what will happen anymore? Should we just all forget the Daily Echo site for three weeks then log back in to see what's actually happened!!??
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Sir,that is an absolutely disgraceful comment to make,hang your head in shame.[/p][/quote]Forest Saint, be ashamed - what a disgusting and shameful thing to post.[/p][/quote]How the hell do you end up getting -3 for this post!? I am slowly but surely losing patience and belief in so called Saints fans on here.[/p][/quote]Don't make the mistake of thinking that they are genuine Saints fans, they aren't, just WUMs.[/p][/quote]Osprey, do you honestly think there's even any point speculating what will happen anymore? Should we just all forget the Daily Echo site for three weeks then log back in to see what's actually happened!!?? Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 0

7:58pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Clever Dick says...

deepheat wrote:
To all Liverpool fans.
Save money on expensive new kits by simply strapping a large fake penis to your forehead. It is now clear to all, as to your allegiance.
Don't you mean a small fake penis.?
[quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: To all Liverpool fans. Save money on expensive new kits by simply strapping a large fake penis to your forehead. It is now clear to all, as to your allegiance.[/p][/quote]Don't you mean a small fake penis.? Clever Dick
  • Score: -1

7:58pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Clever Dick says...

deepheat wrote:
To all Liverpool fans.
Save money on expensive new kits by simply strapping a large fake penis to your forehead. It is now clear to all, as to your allegiance.
Don't you mean a small fake penis.?
[quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: To all Liverpool fans. Save money on expensive new kits by simply strapping a large fake penis to your forehead. It is now clear to all, as to your allegiance.[/p][/quote]Don't you mean a small fake penis.? Clever Dick
  • Score: -2

7:59pm Fri 25 Jul 14

warrens 76 says...

I am not happy, or as a Welsh person would say I'mmm not appppy.

Old and true saying, you can fool some of the people all of the time, you can fool all of the people some of the time…but Les Reed and missing board you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.

I want to give the board the benefit of the doubt, I want to believe Les Reed but everything flies in the face of clear cut statements..

"we will not let any player go we do not want to go…bye bye Four yes FOUR and counting.

"we have amazing quality that wants to come to this club, we have identified players ready to come…were, when , how"?

"We will re-invest all transfers into new players…really… at the moment father xmas has more credibility.

Fellow fans, true fans, I am increasingly feeling Lowe, nothing chimes with the statements…

…so if I have it wrong just show me were…I can forsee a horror show unfolding.
I am not happy, or as a Welsh person would say I'mmm not appppy. Old and true saying, you can fool some of the people all of the time, you can fool all of the people some of the time…but Les Reed and missing board you cannot fool all of the people all of the time. I want to give the board the benefit of the doubt, I want to believe Les Reed but everything flies in the face of clear cut statements.. "we will not let any player go we do not want to go…bye bye Four yes FOUR and counting. "we have amazing quality that wants to come to this club, we have identified players ready to come…were, when , how"? "We will re-invest all transfers into new players…really… at the moment father xmas has more credibility. Fellow fans, true fans, I am increasingly feeling Lowe, nothing chimes with the statements… …so if I have it wrong just show me were…I can forsee a horror show unfolding. warrens 76
  • Score: 9

7:59pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Skating on thin ice says...

You can still get 6/1 against relegation if you are quick enough.
You can still get 6/1 against relegation if you are quick enough. Skating on thin ice
  • Score: 1

8:00pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
Bought: £8M

Sold 1 year later: £20M

Good business. Especially for your owner, who will be paid the "special dividend" out of the company's "trading profits" next year.

The Board will agree to that. Of course they will, because they are all her placemen.

Meanwhile, the Koko brothers are floudering about, trying to sign cheap Dutch players. They were promised a "large chest" for transfers. Well, now they are realising that the only "large chest" is
OMG, you are as pathetic as I remember.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Bought: £8M Sold 1 year later: £20M Good business. Especially for your owner, who will be paid the "special dividend" out of the company's "trading profits" next year. The Board will agree to that. Of course they will, because they are all her placemen. Meanwhile, the Koko brothers are floudering about, trying to sign cheap Dutch players. They were promised a "large chest" for transfers. Well, now they are realising that the only "large chest" is[/p][/quote]OMG, you are as pathetic as I remember. Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 0

8:00pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Chapperall says...

Malcombe wrote:
jason odd

Have you had your head in the Sand since January this year? If you have I'll update you regarding Southampton Players. I would like to inform you that Rickie Lambert who is a fantastic Player was transferred to Liverpool for £5million possibly as bait for others to join him, in Football he could be in his twilight years but for Rickie it was a dream come true, he's been very honest and got his wish that he's had since a child to play for Liverpool and for that he has the Southampton Supporters best wishes and he will be missed, Adam Lallana was seduced possibly with more money and help from his Agent and Steven Gerrard who could of had instructions from Brendan Rodgers this we'll never know, he too wanted to leave his excuse he wanted CLF so he didn't want to play for Southampton again, he's probably increased his Salary by 2/3rds and sold for a very good fee of £26million, Luke Shaw was also seduced with the thought of increasing his monthly Salary by 4/5th he was sold for £27million and did not want to play for Southampton FC again, Dejan Lovren has now been sold for £20 million, he made it very obvious by saying the song of Gerry Marsden singing gave him goose bumps and his head was already in Liverpool, goodness knows where the rest of his body was, he too had no intentions of wanting to stay and play for Southampton FC.

Imagine your are Les Reed and you probably knew these Players wanted to leave early this year and you've had to sit down with these definitely want away don't want to play for Southampton again Players how would you handle this problem, would you lock them in a room or Barn until they scream ok I'll stay and play for Southampton I'm sorry I won't complain again ? They did not want to stay and play for Southampton ever again is that clear to you because it is to thousands of the Supporters? Not one Supporter wanted any of these Players to leave, it's been a horrible few months, the Team was the best it's ever been and the thought of progress continuing on next season was even more exciting but they were being Coached by a very dishonest man Potchettino not that any of us suspected this, IMO he Coached and Managed this year under total false pretences, it's fair to say he introduced a style of play that had admiration from Football Fans all over the world but this year he proved to be disloyal and a liar, his head wasn't in Southampton it was to a rival Premiership Club and it also coincided with the exodus of Players, did he have an influence and encouraged the Players to leave Southampton? We all hope it's the end of Players leaving but it possibly hasn't stopped yet, Morgan Schneiderlin and the very latest news Callum Chambers could be going to Arsenal another horrible moment for the Supporters, Les Reed has been castigated this year but IOM he would tread over hot coals to keep all these Players at Southampton but the Players know the way to manipulate the Club and disrespect and ignore any contract they sign.

Les Reed has a thankless task and IMO knew the Players wanted out but could not reveal the truth he instead has to be diplomatic to all the Supporters he has to choose his words, he probably would love to be transparent but it's not always wise as it could cause disruption to soon to a Club who's Players are playing the best the have ever played and there valuation could drop dramatically when hell breaks out.
The essence of this post is don't blame Les and the Board blame the Players who wanted out because a seed was sown possibly by Potchettino and they were all motivated by him and loyalty is just a word but money money money has a desired affect.
Now is the time to be positive and move on and give 100% support love and trust to Southampton Football Club The Saints.
Just another hand wringer
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: jason odd Have you had your head in the Sand since January this year? If you have I'll update you regarding Southampton Players. I would like to inform you that Rickie Lambert who is a fantastic Player was transferred to Liverpool for £5million possibly as bait for others to join him, in Football he could be in his twilight years but for Rickie it was a dream come true, he's been very honest and got his wish that he's had since a child to play for Liverpool and for that he has the Southampton Supporters best wishes and he will be missed, Adam Lallana was seduced possibly with more money and help from his Agent and Steven Gerrard who could of had instructions from Brendan Rodgers this we'll never know, he too wanted to leave his excuse he wanted CLF so he didn't want to play for Southampton again, he's probably increased his Salary by 2/3rds and sold for a very good fee of £26million, Luke Shaw was also seduced with the thought of increasing his monthly Salary by 4/5th he was sold for £27million and did not want to play for Southampton FC again, Dejan Lovren has now been sold for £20 million, he made it very obvious by saying the song of Gerry Marsden singing gave him goose bumps and his head was already in Liverpool, goodness knows where the rest of his body was, he too had no intentions of wanting to stay and play for Southampton FC. Imagine your are Les Reed and you probably knew these Players wanted to leave early this year and you've had to sit down with these definitely want away don't want to play for Southampton again Players how would you handle this problem, would you lock them in a room or Barn until they scream ok I'll stay and play for Southampton I'm sorry I won't complain again ? They did not want to stay and play for Southampton ever again is that clear to you because it is to thousands of the Supporters? Not one Supporter wanted any of these Players to leave, it's been a horrible few months, the Team was the best it's ever been and the thought of progress continuing on next season was even more exciting but they were being Coached by a very dishonest man Potchettino not that any of us suspected this, IMO he Coached and Managed this year under total false pretences, it's fair to say he introduced a style of play that had admiration from Football Fans all over the world but this year he proved to be disloyal and a liar, his head wasn't in Southampton it was to a rival Premiership Club and it also coincided with the exodus of Players, did he have an influence and encouraged the Players to leave Southampton? We all hope it's the end of Players leaving but it possibly hasn't stopped yet, Morgan Schneiderlin and the very latest news Callum Chambers could be going to Arsenal another horrible moment for the Supporters, Les Reed has been castigated this year but IOM he would tread over hot coals to keep all these Players at Southampton but the Players know the way to manipulate the Club and disrespect and ignore any contract they sign. Les Reed has a thankless task and IMO knew the Players wanted out but could not reveal the truth he instead has to be diplomatic to all the Supporters he has to choose his words, he probably would love to be transparent but it's not always wise as it could cause disruption to soon to a Club who's Players are playing the best the have ever played and there valuation could drop dramatically when hell breaks out. The essence of this post is don't blame Les and the Board blame the Players who wanted out because a seed was sown possibly by Potchettino and they were all motivated by him and loyalty is just a word but money money money has a desired affect. Now is the time to be positive and move on and give 100% support love and trust to Southampton Football Club The Saints.[/p][/quote]Just another hand wringer Chapperall
  • Score: -1

8:01pm Fri 25 Jul 14

montyplum says...

Thank god he is going..he didn't want to be here so good riddance....my concern is the real lack of signings....nothing plenty of rumours but no deals....are we going to be yet again waiting to the last minute to sort our new look team out....just got my bayern Leverkusen tickets I pray that I see some real quality football and a new chapter in saints
Thank god he is going..he didn't want to be here so good riddance....my concern is the real lack of signings....nothing plenty of rumours but no deals....are we going to be yet again waiting to the last minute to sort our new look team out....just got my bayern Leverkusen tickets I pray that I see some real quality football and a new chapter in saints montyplum
  • Score: 6

8:02pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
You can still get 6/1 against relegation if you are quick enough.
But not for your lot :o)
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: You can still get 6/1 against relegation if you are quick enough.[/p][/quote]But not for your lot :o) Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 2

8:03pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Supersaint90 wrote:
If sniederlin leaves to, we are as good as down!!
Aren't you being just a tad silly 90? We don't want to lose Spyder or anyone else for that matter but we have the money to replace them all and if they are not happy with us, why should we be happy with them? Love Saints or ---- of should be our message to all of them. BTW we might not make 8th again this season but we will not be going down - promise.
[quote][p][bold]Supersaint90[/bold] wrote: If sniederlin leaves to, we are as good as down!![/p][/quote]Aren't you being just a tad silly 90? We don't want to lose Spyder or anyone else for that matter but we have the money to replace them all and if they are not happy with us, why should we be happy with them? Love Saints or ---- of should be our message to all of them. BTW we might not make 8th again this season but we will not be going down - promise. jls217
  • Score: -6

8:05pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Clever Dick says...

Saints for life wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
Dejan
As they say in acting circles break a leg!
Not any player deserves a comment like this disgusting!
As is Lovren's behaviour.
[quote][p][bold]Saints for life[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: Dejan As they say in acting circles break a leg![/p][/quote]Not any player deserves a comment like this disgusting![/p][/quote]As is Lovren's behaviour. Clever Dick
  • Score: 4

8:08pm Fri 25 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

knuckle dragger wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
All the hatred and bile directed at our departing players is playing straight in the hands of our inept board.
Ask your self why the exodus.... one reason : low PL wages.

Other clubs are investing in quality players, improving their squads.
Our board is penny pinching, selling the family silver and buying copper/brass replacements and hoping it'll be just as valuable.

If I was a shareholder I'd be over the moon, but it would only be a short term investment as the board seem to be only looking short term imho.
Do you want Saints to go in to administration again???
The only way we will go into admin is if we overspend, at the moment we are under-spending.
The lack of investment in fees and wages could, quite easily, result in relegation, which could cause a lot of financial woe.

It's a tough call for the board, speculate to accumulate, or try to survive by treading water.
[quote][p][bold]knuckle dragger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: All the hatred and bile directed at our departing players is playing straight in the hands of our inept board. Ask your self why the exodus.... one reason : low PL wages. Other clubs are investing in quality players, improving their squads. Our board is penny pinching, selling the family silver and buying copper/brass replacements and hoping it'll be just as valuable. If I was a shareholder I'd be over the moon, but it would only be a short term investment as the board seem to be only looking short term imho.[/p][/quote]Do you want Saints to go in to administration again???[/p][/quote]The only way we will go into admin is if we overspend, at the moment we are under-spending. The lack of investment in fees and wages could, quite easily, result in relegation, which could cause a lot of financial woe. It's a tough call for the board, speculate to accumulate, or try to survive by treading water. costa gaz
  • Score: 7

8:08pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Tootingsaint says...

Another embarrassment for Les. Face it, the new team has delivered us -1 chairman, -1 manager, -1 captain, -1 goal scorer and now -1 CB. Soon to be -1 defensive midfielder. Not sure Victor is that happy with developments either. Problem with having no proper football people at the helm is they can't deliver any proper signings. The only reason we got the 2 guys in is RK's connections, and unfortunately they are totally unproven. Our board is an embarrassment and completely inconsistent with what it says / how it acts. Our hand is weakened with every quality player sold. I could understand if we were bringing in quality replacements. The problem is, the guys at the top don't know how to create a winning mentality in football and positive momentum - they have been idle for way too long this summer. What's wrong with telling the vultures, "sorry, no time to discuss Lovren right now, trying to sign , come back before the window closes. You'll find him repeating the bleep test over there with the resies." No spine, no guile, no winning mentality. I'm ashamed of the way our club has performed this summer, it's a total embarrassment. Bad news after bad news with nice old Les doing nothing to stem the flow. He has delivered nothing except to dismantle a successful squad. The youngsters are good but it's unfair to rely on them. I wonder if Les is gradually dismantling the scouting network we have built up in the background as well?
Another embarrassment for Les. Face it, the new team has delivered us -1 chairman, -1 manager, -1 captain, -1 goal scorer and now -1 CB. Soon to be -1 defensive midfielder. Not sure Victor is that happy with developments either. Problem with having no proper football people at the helm is they can't deliver any proper signings. The only reason we got the 2 guys in is RK's connections, and unfortunately they are totally unproven. Our board is an embarrassment and completely inconsistent with what it says / how it acts. Our hand is weakened with every quality player sold. I could understand if we were bringing in quality replacements. The problem is, the guys at the top don't know how to create a winning mentality in football and positive momentum - they have been idle for way too long this summer. What's wrong with telling the vultures, "sorry, no time to discuss Lovren right now, trying to sign [Vlar/someone else], come back before the window closes. You'll find him repeating the bleep test over there with the resies." No spine, no guile, no winning mentality. I'm ashamed of the way our club has performed this summer, it's a total embarrassment. Bad news after bad news with nice old Les doing nothing to stem the flow. He has delivered nothing except to dismantle a successful squad. The youngsters are good but it's unfair to rely on them. I wonder if Les is gradually dismantling the scouting network we have built up in the background as well? Tootingsaint
  • Score: 7

8:10pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

costa gaz wrote:
knuckle dragger wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
All the hatred and bile directed at our departing players is playing straight in the hands of our inept board.
Ask your self why the exodus.... one reason : low PL wages.

Other clubs are investing in quality players, improving their squads.
Our board is penny pinching, selling the family silver and buying copper/brass replacements and hoping it'll be just as valuable.

If I was a shareholder I'd be over the moon, but it would only be a short term investment as the board seem to be only looking short term imho.
Do you want Saints to go in to administration again???
The only way we will go into admin is if we overspend, at the moment we are under-spending.
The lack of investment in fees and wages could, quite easily, result in relegation, which could cause a lot of financial woe.

It's a tough call for the board, speculate to accumulate, or try to survive by treading water.
Great post, good points - food for thought.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]knuckle dragger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: All the hatred and bile directed at our departing players is playing straight in the hands of our inept board. Ask your self why the exodus.... one reason : low PL wages. Other clubs are investing in quality players, improving their squads. Our board is penny pinching, selling the family silver and buying copper/brass replacements and hoping it'll be just as valuable. If I was a shareholder I'd be over the moon, but it would only be a short term investment as the board seem to be only looking short term imho.[/p][/quote]Do you want Saints to go in to administration again???[/p][/quote]The only way we will go into admin is if we overspend, at the moment we are under-spending. The lack of investment in fees and wages could, quite easily, result in relegation, which could cause a lot of financial woe. It's a tough call for the board, speculate to accumulate, or try to survive by treading water.[/p][/quote]Great post, good points - food for thought. Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 3

8:10pm Fri 25 Jul 14

knuckle dragger says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
But don't worry, none of our players are up for sale, there will not be a fire sale, we do not need to sell our best players, we want to keep the core of our players together. All because Les Reed said so.

So don't panic everyone- WE ARE NOT A SELLING CLUB AND DO NOT HAVE TO SELL OUR BEST PLAYERS!!!
Remember he also said we would spend ALL the income on improving the squad Why am I finding it hard to believe that?
LOL. Will you get over yourself? All the money will be made available, that is completely different to "he also said we would spend ALL the income"
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: But don't worry, none of our players are up for sale, there will not be a fire sale, we do not need to sell our best players, we want to keep the core of our players together. All because Les Reed said so. So don't panic everyone- WE ARE NOT A SELLING CLUB AND DO NOT HAVE TO SELL OUR BEST PLAYERS!!![/p][/quote]Remember he also said we would spend ALL the income on improving the squad Why am I finding it hard to believe that?[/p][/quote]LOL. Will you get over yourself? All the money will be made available, that is completely different to "he also said we would spend ALL the income" knuckle dragger
  • Score: -2

8:13pm Fri 25 Jul 14

warrens 76 says...

jls217 wrote:
Supersaint90 wrote:
If sniederlin leaves to, we are as good as down!!
Aren't you being just a tad silly 90? We don't want to lose Spyder or anyone else for that matter but we have the money to replace them all and if they are not happy with us, why should we be happy with them? Love Saints or ---- of should be our message to all of them. BTW we might not make 8th again this season but we will not be going down - promise.
Have the money, yes, spend the money NO..
Be clear no board in the history of football has ever admitted it's true intentions, think BHAFC did they know the board was actually selling the Goldstone ground? of course not, weare in a 3 million in i million out scenarion (at best)…
I truly despise the throwing away of a prize within our grasp…my god SFC as a serious player was there for the taking, never again will that opportunity come to us, nor anyone outside the top 6 again….we could have done what we have never done, namely make ourselves a regional powerhouse à la Bilbao…but no dead hand of 8loody Swiss accountancy..as for the board, capitalizing on what they have as oppossed to what we could be is the order of the day…shameful and unnecessary as KL is already on a monster profit.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Supersaint90[/bold] wrote: If sniederlin leaves to, we are as good as down!![/p][/quote]Aren't you being just a tad silly 90? We don't want to lose Spyder or anyone else for that matter but we have the money to replace them all and if they are not happy with us, why should we be happy with them? Love Saints or ---- of should be our message to all of them. BTW we might not make 8th again this season but we will not be going down - promise.[/p][/quote]Have the money, yes, spend the money NO.. Be clear no board in the history of football has ever admitted it's true intentions, think BHAFC did they know the board was actually selling the Goldstone ground? of course not, weare in a 3 million in i million out scenarion (at best)… I truly despise the throwing away of a prize within our grasp…my god SFC as a serious player was there for the taking, never again will that opportunity come to us, nor anyone outside the top 6 again….we could have done what we have never done, namely make ourselves a regional powerhouse à la Bilbao…but no dead hand of 8loody Swiss accountancy..as for the board, capitalizing on what they have as oppossed to what we could be is the order of the day…shameful and unnecessary as KL is already on a monster profit. warrens 76
  • Score: 10

8:13pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

jasons odd wrote:
M Clarke wrote:
So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.
Who cares about the money in Ms Liebherrs back pocket , all our best players are being sold . Players of Lovren's quality are impossible to replace .
Then how did we manage to find him in the first place then? Difficult to replace and I'm with you, impossible? Get a grip of yourself man. Ms Liebherr is welcome to whatever money she wants to take - it is her club after all. I suspect all of the transfer money will go back into the club in one form or another. Pay off debts, bring in another intake of youngsters, establish a club or academy in the states (which we are apparently in the process of setting up) possibly bringing in another player or two.
Our best players are not so much being sold as demanding to move leaving us little choice but to make a huge profit on them. If you know a better way of running the Saints give Freddie a call and offer your ideas. I'm guessing you won't do that 'cos you prefer to sit on the sidelines sniping and whining and pretending to have all the answers when really you're just like the rest of us - no idea what is going on only some of us choose to be happy and you choose to be a nasty miserable little veroucha instead.
[quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M Clarke[/bold] wrote: So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.[/p][/quote]Who cares about the money in Ms Liebherrs back pocket , all our best players are being sold . Players of Lovren's quality are impossible to replace .[/p][/quote]Then how did we manage to find him in the first place then? Difficult to replace and I'm with you, impossible? Get a grip of yourself man. Ms Liebherr is welcome to whatever money she wants to take - it is her club after all. I suspect all of the transfer money will go back into the club in one form or another. Pay off debts, bring in another intake of youngsters, establish a club or academy in the states (which we are apparently in the process of setting up) possibly bringing in another player or two. Our best players are not so much being sold as demanding to move leaving us little choice but to make a huge profit on them. If you know a better way of running the Saints give Freddie a call and offer your ideas. I'm guessing you won't do that 'cos you prefer to sit on the sidelines sniping and whining and pretending to have all the answers when really you're just like the rest of us - no idea what is going on only some of us choose to be happy and you choose to be a nasty miserable little veroucha instead. jls217
  • Score: 0

8:14pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

M Clarke wrote:
So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.
With you mate. Things can only get better eh!?
[quote][p][bold]M Clarke[/bold] wrote: So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.[/p][/quote]With you mate. Things can only get better eh!? jls217
  • Score: -4

8:16pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Clever Dick says...

Enrico Palazzo wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
long memory wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Sir,that is an absolutely disgraceful comment to make,hang your head in shame.
Forest Saint, be ashamed - what a disgusting and shameful thing to post.
How the hell do you end up getting -3 for this post!? I am slowly but surely losing patience and belief in so called Saints fans on here.
Don't worry too much about thumbs down. When an obviously sensible post gets them its purely down to small minded and extremely under intelligent WUMs. Best to regard them as compliments . its much better fun.
[quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Sir,that is an absolutely disgraceful comment to make,hang your head in shame.[/p][/quote]Forest Saint, be ashamed - what a disgusting and shameful thing to post.[/p][/quote]How the hell do you end up getting -3 for this post!? I am slowly but surely losing patience and belief in so called Saints fans on here.[/p][/quote]Don't worry too much about thumbs down. When an obviously sensible post gets them its purely down to small minded and extremely under intelligent WUMs. Best to regard them as compliments . its much better fun. Clever Dick
  • Score: 1

8:17pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Andy Welsh wrote:
I know I'm going to get slated by the handwringers again, but this makes sound business sense. Selling a player who has publicly stated his desire to go, for more than double what we paid for him 12 months ago is a no brainer. I know a lot of you don't believe Saints will reinvest the money. I disagree with you and I believe that the team that starts at Liverpool will have an excellent blend of new players who Koeman wants and want to be here and academy graduates like Ward Prowse, Reed and Targett. We'll just have to wait and see who's right. Let's face it not many of us thought we'd finish 8th in the Premier League five years ago, so stranger things have happened.
Thanks Andy - I agree, we won't repeat last season again maybe but I reckon there will a few teams shaking their heads at how we've managed to bounce back from the end of season from hell.
[quote][p][bold]Andy Welsh[/bold] wrote: I know I'm going to get slated by the handwringers again, but this makes sound business sense. Selling a player who has publicly stated his desire to go, for more than double what we paid for him 12 months ago is a no brainer. I know a lot of you don't believe Saints will reinvest the money. I disagree with you and I believe that the team that starts at Liverpool will have an excellent blend of new players who Koeman wants and want to be here and academy graduates like Ward Prowse, Reed and Targett. We'll just have to wait and see who's right. Let's face it not many of us thought we'd finish 8th in the Premier League five years ago, so stranger things have happened.[/p][/quote]Thanks Andy - I agree, we won't repeat last season again maybe but I reckon there will a few teams shaking their heads at how we've managed to bounce back from the end of season from hell. jls217
  • Score: -11

8:18pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Stupid boy.
[quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Stupid boy. jls217
  • Score: -5

8:21pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Clever Dick says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
You can still get 6/1 against relegation if you are quick enough.
We're not interested in Poopeys relegation odds thanks. We don't follow such lowly leagues.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: You can still get 6/1 against relegation if you are quick enough.[/p][/quote]We're not interested in Poopeys relegation odds thanks. We don't follow such lowly leagues. Clever Dick
  • Score: 5

8:29pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

costa gaz wrote:
So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer.
More to follow next week.

Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren?
A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good.


Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best.
Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week.

101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months.
:-(
Disagree - If we have someone who doesn't want to put his heart into the club then we are better off without him and giving the shirt to someone who wants to grab the chance to prove himself. Lovren didn't cost 20m did he? We made him worth that money and now we reap the reward and another viper is moved on to be replaced by another 8m player eager to fill his boots even if only for a couple of season before he too moves on. This is what Saints have always done and will probably continue to do. Any ferking idjit can be miserable mate. It takes a bit of gumption to be in cesspit and find the happiness therein. It's all about choices and the situation is getting better by the week.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer. More to follow next week. Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren? A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good. Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best. Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week. 101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months. :-([/p][/quote]Disagree - If we have someone who doesn't want to put his heart into the club then we are better off without him and giving the shirt to someone who wants to grab the chance to prove himself. Lovren didn't cost 20m did he? We made him worth that money and now we reap the reward and another viper is moved on to be replaced by another 8m player eager to fill his boots even if only for a couple of season before he too moves on. This is what Saints have always done and will probably continue to do. Any ferking idjit can be miserable mate. It takes a bit of gumption to be in cesspit and find the happiness therein. It's all about choices and the situation is getting better by the week. jls217
  • Score: -5

8:33pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
I expect football clubs the length and breadth of Europe are following these pages in the hope of tapping up one of you miserable sods as their next manager. You're all clearly so much more knowledgeable and experienced than what they have, and with the added bonus that you're all psychic and know exactly what the current manager, owner and board are thinking.
I bet some of you were among the tw@ts screaming "I hope we get relegated" the day NA got sacked.
To borrow from the Nike campaign from a few World Cups ago: "Armchair football manager. Easiest job in the world".
Love it and despite the organized thumbs down campaign, IMHO you are absolutely right. Some of them are so good they are borderline genius/village idots - amazing the amount of untapped talents to be found on a football forum. Unfortunately some are just incapable of thinking anything through so just say the first thing that comes into what passes for a mind.
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: I expect football clubs the length and breadth of Europe are following these pages in the hope of tapping up one of you miserable sods as their next manager. You're all clearly so much more knowledgeable and experienced than what they have, and with the added bonus that you're all psychic and know exactly what the current manager, owner and board are thinking. I bet some of you were among the tw@ts screaming "I hope we get relegated" the day NA got sacked. To borrow from the Nike campaign from a few World Cups ago: "Armchair football manager. Easiest job in the world".[/p][/quote]Love it and despite the organized thumbs down campaign, IMHO you are absolutely right. Some of them are so good they are borderline genius/village idots - amazing the amount of untapped talents to be found on a football forum. Unfortunately some are just incapable of thinking anything through so just say the first thing that comes into what passes for a mind. jls217
  • Score: -7

8:36pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
So much criticism aimed at the club. So much negativity.

Take the cash and spend wisely. It would be great if it were on multi million pound signings, but if some cash has to go to pay for Staplewood and new lighting so be it.

Only idiots would think we can hold onto players who want to go when neither Newcastle, Liverpool or Arsenal can. Pardew has a point. A bit more energy getting behind the club or at least trying to understand what they are doing would be good, rather than this whaling and whining that goes on. Only idiots would need a lie down every time we get turned down in signimg a potential target. It happens to every club, even if bigger. Ask Astori.

Looks like Saints are keen to make new signings. Tadic and Pelle look like good like for slightly better replacements. I look forward to what happens. If we don't sign any body else, I will still turn up and cheer on the Saints. I will be disappointed, but I won't slag off the family which saved this club and unlike others on here I won't be giving the impression I will soon be jumping off the Itchen Bridge over it.
You are a breath of fresh air sir.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: So much criticism aimed at the club. So much negativity. Take the cash and spend wisely. It would be great if it were on multi million pound signings, but if some cash has to go to pay for Staplewood and new lighting so be it. Only idiots would think we can hold onto players who want to go when neither Newcastle, Liverpool or Arsenal can. Pardew has a point. A bit more energy getting behind the club or at least trying to understand what they are doing would be good, rather than this whaling and whining that goes on. Only idiots would need a lie down every time we get turned down in signimg a potential target. It happens to every club, even if bigger. Ask Astori. Looks like Saints are keen to make new signings. Tadic and Pelle look like good like for slightly better replacements. I look forward to what happens. If we don't sign any body else, I will still turn up and cheer on the Saints. I will be disappointed, but I won't slag off the family which saved this club and unlike others on here I won't be giving the impression I will soon be jumping off the Itchen Bridge over it.[/p][/quote]You are a breath of fresh air sir. jls217
  • Score: 0

8:37pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Numpty Girl says...

Chapperall wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
Andy Welsh wrote:
I know I'm going to get slated by the handwringers again, but this makes sound business sense. Selling a player who has publicly stated his desire to go, for more than double what we paid for him 12 months ago is a no brainer. I know a lot of you don't believe Saints will reinvest the money. I disagree with you and I believe that the team that starts at Liverpool will have an excellent blend of new players who Koeman wants and want to be here and academy graduates like Ward Prowse, Reed and Targett. We'll just have to wait and see who's right. Let's face it not many of us thought we'd finish 8th in the Premier League five years ago, so stranger things have happened.
How can you believe that we will spend all the transfer income Reed has told us nothing but lies and that is probably another one
Agreed you can't believe a word they have said. They certainly aren't in a hurry to spend it. Probably going to use the youngsters and pocket the proceeds!
Jan Poortvliet Mk II
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy Welsh[/bold] wrote: I know I'm going to get slated by the handwringers again, but this makes sound business sense. Selling a player who has publicly stated his desire to go, for more than double what we paid for him 12 months ago is a no brainer. I know a lot of you don't believe Saints will reinvest the money. I disagree with you and I believe that the team that starts at Liverpool will have an excellent blend of new players who Koeman wants and want to be here and academy graduates like Ward Prowse, Reed and Targett. We'll just have to wait and see who's right. Let's face it not many of us thought we'd finish 8th in the Premier League five years ago, so stranger things have happened.[/p][/quote]How can you believe that we will spend all the transfer income Reed has told us nothing but lies and that is probably another one[/p][/quote]Agreed you can't believe a word they have said. They certainly aren't in a hurry to spend it. Probably going to use the youngsters and pocket the proceeds![/p][/quote]Jan Poortvliet Mk II Numpty Girl
  • Score: 10

8:38pm Fri 25 Jul 14

SaintJD says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
So much criticism aimed at the club. So much negativity.

Take the cash and spend wisely. It would be great if it were on multi million pound signings, but if some cash has to go to pay for Staplewood and new lighting so be it.

Only idiots would think we can hold onto players who want to go when neither Newcastle, Liverpool or Arsenal can. Pardew has a point. A bit more energy getting behind the club or at least trying to understand what they are doing would be good, rather than this whaling and whining that goes on. Only idiots would need a lie down every time we get turned down in signimg a potential target. It happens to every club, even if bigger. Ask Astori.

Looks like Saints are keen to make new signings. Tadic and Pelle look like good like for slightly better replacements. I look forward to what happens. If we don't sign any body else, I will still turn up and cheer on the Saints. I will be disappointed, but I won't slag off the family which saved this club and unlike others on here I won't be giving the impression I will soon be jumping off the Itchen Bridge over it.
'Tadic and Pelle look like good like for like or slightly better replacements'

How can you possibly say that? In my wildest dreams I hope they are, but you are making that statement on zero evidence and any reasonably knowledgable fan knows that buying from a foriegn league and expecting the players to be a runaway hit is far from a sure bet.

Rickie is a club legend, Adam is our captain and has over the course of eight seasons or so, been one of our key players.

If it's so easy to buy better players why didn't we do it in the last two years or before? Why did we spend upwards of £30 million on Osvaldo and Gaston (very much like for like Rickie and Adam) and neither of them have been within a country mile of those players.

Lovren is another example. I bet if you'd never heard of Forren and we signed him next week you'd say he was an awesome replacement.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but it is unlikely. To answer your Arsenal point, we can't go out and sign Alexis Sanchez, Giroud and Ozil or nick Remy on the cheap. There is a difference.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: So much criticism aimed at the club. So much negativity. Take the cash and spend wisely. It would be great if it were on multi million pound signings, but if some cash has to go to pay for Staplewood and new lighting so be it. Only idiots would think we can hold onto players who want to go when neither Newcastle, Liverpool or Arsenal can. Pardew has a point. A bit more energy getting behind the club or at least trying to understand what they are doing would be good, rather than this whaling and whining that goes on. Only idiots would need a lie down every time we get turned down in signimg a potential target. It happens to every club, even if bigger. Ask Astori. Looks like Saints are keen to make new signings. Tadic and Pelle look like good like for slightly better replacements. I look forward to what happens. If we don't sign any body else, I will still turn up and cheer on the Saints. I will be disappointed, but I won't slag off the family which saved this club and unlike others on here I won't be giving the impression I will soon be jumping off the Itchen Bridge over it.[/p][/quote]'Tadic and Pelle look like good like for like or slightly better replacements' How can you possibly say that? In my wildest dreams I hope they are, but you are making that statement on zero evidence and any reasonably knowledgable fan knows that buying from a foriegn league and expecting the players to be a runaway hit is far from a sure bet. Rickie is a club legend, Adam is our captain and has over the course of eight seasons or so, been one of our key players. If it's so easy to buy better players why didn't we do it in the last two years or before? Why did we spend upwards of £30 million on Osvaldo and Gaston (very much like for like Rickie and Adam) and neither of them have been within a country mile of those players. Lovren is another example. I bet if you'd never heard of Forren and we signed him next week you'd say he was an awesome replacement. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it is unlikely. To answer your Arsenal point, we can't go out and sign Alexis Sanchez, Giroud and Ozil or nick Remy on the cheap. There is a difference. SaintJD
  • Score: 7

8:40pm Fri 25 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

03alpe01 wrote:
But don't worry, none of our players are up for sale, there will not be a fire sale, we do not need to sell our best players, we want to keep the core of our players together. All because Les Reed said so.

So don't panic everyone- WE ARE NOT A SELLING CLUB AND DO NOT HAVE TO SELL OUR BEST PLAYERS!!!
Rupert Lowe is alive and well!
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: But don't worry, none of our players are up for sale, there will not be a fire sale, we do not need to sell our best players, we want to keep the core of our players together. All because Les Reed said so. So don't panic everyone- WE ARE NOT A SELLING CLUB AND DO NOT HAVE TO SELL OUR BEST PLAYERS!!![/p][/quote]Rupert Lowe is alive and well! echo1948
  • Score: 7

8:41pm Fri 25 Jul 14

HAZZAAR says...

SaintSherman wrote:
With a further £20 million in the Southampton bank there is more then enough to replace Lovren. Despite the fact that the time is running out before the season starts it's vital to get in the right players for the right price.
Every player is replaceable especially those with a poor attitude, we go again next season and with Koeman in charge I have full faith he can build a competitive team.
Well we better start buying soon.
Only 3 more friendlies after tonight to get acquainted.
[quote][p][bold]SaintSherman[/bold] wrote: With a further £20 million in the Southampton bank there is more then enough to replace Lovren. Despite the fact that the time is running out before the season starts it's vital to get in the right players for the right price. Every player is replaceable especially those with a poor attitude, we go again next season and with Koeman in charge I have full faith he can build a competitive team.[/p][/quote]Well we better start buying soon. Only 3 more friendlies after tonight to get acquainted. HAZZAAR
  • Score: 5

8:43pm Fri 25 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

Steve_N wrote:
Ta very much Liverhampton. RoKo now go sign van Dijk and de Vrij for similar money.
Ain,t gonna happen.
[quote][p][bold]Steve_N[/bold] wrote: Ta very much Liverhampton. RoKo now go sign van Dijk and de Vrij for similar money.[/p][/quote]Ain,t gonna happen. echo1948
  • Score: 3

8:43pm Fri 25 Jul 14

one in the crowd says...

I told you , Lovren would be sold to Liverpool, Brendan knows what he is doing.

Its a pity Saint's don't know what their doing, time is running out for transfers before the start of the next season.

I'm sure your manager wants to be a player / manager that's why he hasn't filled all the empty spaces in the team, because he fancies one of them for himself ?
I told you , Lovren would be sold to Liverpool, Brendan knows what he is doing. Its a pity Saint's don't know what their doing, time is running out for transfers before the start of the next season. I'm sure your manager wants to be a player / manager that's why he hasn't filled all the empty spaces in the team, because he fancies one of them for himself ? one in the crowd
  • Score: -5

8:43pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

footballfan123 wrote:
The things is we might have all this money in the bank but think about these points:
Too much disruption and change affects any team.
Money in the bank does not mean that good players will WANT to come to a selling club.
Even if we bid 20 million for a player, they will not come to us as they are too good and will want to sign for a bigger club on larger wages.
We have got rid of about ten players and only got in 2. I am talking about Guly etc who sat on the bench.
Time is running out to get players in to replace them.
You can't lose your top 5 players and expect it not to have an impact.
New players will need time to gel and settle and they wont as good as the players sold anyway.
ALL THIS EQUALS -= TROUBLE!
From a worried Saints fan
Hard to argue against that mate and there is an air of realistic fatalism about your point of view.
I too am worried but in my book ALL THIS EQUALS - OPPORTUNITY.

The big names were clearly not happy about something (doesn't really matter what it was- though I would love to know the real story) they have decided they can find more money (sorry that was meant to be true happiness) elsewhere so it gives us an OPPORTUNITY to clear the decks and OPPORTUNITY to cut the gangrene out, the OPPORTUNITY to make a huge profit on their stinking carcasses and an OPPORTUNITY to bring in the next generation to cheer on and be entertained by.
We are about to see a couple more Saints legends being scripted mate - what an opportunity.
[quote][p][bold]footballfan123[/bold] wrote: The things is we might have all this money in the bank but think about these points: Too much disruption and change affects any team. Money in the bank does not mean that good players will WANT to come to a selling club. Even if we bid 20 million for a player, they will not come to us as they are too good and will want to sign for a bigger club on larger wages. We have got rid of about ten players and only got in 2. I am talking about Guly etc who sat on the bench. Time is running out to get players in to replace them. You can't lose your top 5 players and expect it not to have an impact. New players will need time to gel and settle and they wont as good as the players sold anyway. ALL THIS EQUALS -= TROUBLE! From a worried Saints fan[/p][/quote]Hard to argue against that mate and there is an air of realistic fatalism about your point of view. I too am worried but in my book ALL THIS EQUALS - OPPORTUNITY. The big names were clearly not happy about something (doesn't really matter what it was- though I would love to know the real story) they have decided they can find more money (sorry that was meant to be true happiness) elsewhere so it gives us an OPPORTUNITY to clear the decks and OPPORTUNITY to cut the gangrene out, the OPPORTUNITY to make a huge profit on their stinking carcasses and an OPPORTUNITY to bring in the next generation to cheer on and be entertained by. We are about to see a couple more Saints legends being scripted mate - what an opportunity. jls217
  • Score: -7

8:44pm Fri 25 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

Billy liar wrote:
Saints. Richest club in championship...
.


R. Soles
Been saying this for weeks.
[quote][p][bold]Billy liar[/bold] wrote: Saints. Richest club in championship... . R. Soles[/p][/quote]Been saying this for weeks. echo1948
  • Score: 2

8:44pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Steve_N says...

bathsaints wrote:
Was one of our standout players last season. It makes good sense in terms of the fee and we only want players who are committed to the club but what the flip is driving all these players away, surely we have ambition and surely we have a bit of money to pay wages etc so what is it that is driving them away. I hope Big Ron is allowed to splash the cash and 2 good centre backs please...Fonte is a better player alongside a class CB but I wouldn't fancy him and Hoover lining up at anfield in 3 weeks. Come on Les bring in Vlaar and Van Dijk....
I'll tell you what's driving (I would actually use the word luring) players away - astronomical wages which we will not (cannot?) pay and the lure of Champions League Football. OK so Man U are not in the CL this coming season, but does anyone really think they won't be there again in a few seasons, if not the one after next?
I for one do not want to see us paying wages that we cannot sustain and, god forbid, end up like that lot at the dodgy end of the M27.
Like it or not, we cannot compete with Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal - at least not until we have a stadium with a capacity of at least 45000 and are regularly selling out home matches at that level.
I have been supporting Saints for over 40 years and I'd love to see us up there with the big boys but I'm afraid money dictates and whilst we may have taken a lot in transfer fees in the last month, it ain't nothing compared to what the top clubs are able to spend on transfer fees and wages.
Whatever happens I will always support THE SAINTS
STID
[quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: Was one of our standout players last season. It makes good sense in terms of the fee and we only want players who are committed to the club but what the flip is driving all these players away, surely we have ambition and surely we have a bit of money to pay wages etc so what is it that is driving them away. I hope Big Ron is allowed to splash the cash and 2 good centre backs please...Fonte is a better player alongside a class CB but I wouldn't fancy him and Hoover lining up at anfield in 3 weeks. Come on Les bring in Vlaar and Van Dijk....[/p][/quote]I'll tell you what's driving (I would actually use the word luring) players away - astronomical wages which we will not (cannot?) pay and the lure of Champions League Football. OK so Man U are not in the CL this coming season, but does anyone really think they won't be there again in a few seasons, if not the one after next? I for one do not want to see us paying wages that we cannot sustain and, god forbid, end up like that lot at the dodgy end of the M27. Like it or not, we cannot compete with Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal - at least not until we have a stadium with a capacity of at least 45000 and are regularly selling out home matches at that level. I have been supporting Saints for over 40 years and I'd love to see us up there with the big boys but I'm afraid money dictates and whilst we may have taken a lot in transfer fees in the last month, it ain't nothing compared to what the top clubs are able to spend on transfer fees and wages. Whatever happens I will always support THE SAINTS STID Steve_N
  • Score: 10

8:45pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
good riddance to Lovren,
great bit of business by Saints, off the back of one seasons performance we made what.... 12 million? lovely.

so then let's see what we have - some great talent coming from the academy, some pretty good heads left over.

onwards and upwards.
Stroppy - I think I love you.
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: good riddance to Lovren, great bit of business by Saints, off the back of one seasons performance we made what.... 12 million? lovely. so then let's see what we have - some great talent coming from the academy, some pretty good heads left over. onwards and upwards.[/p][/quote]Stroppy - I think I love you. jls217
  • Score: -6

8:46pm Fri 25 Jul 14

thesaint88 says...

Billy liar wrote:
Saints. Richest club in championship...
.


R. Soles
Not when the aft ibcth takes all the money out of the club and ditches it, ring any bells swing low
[quote][p][bold]Billy liar[/bold] wrote: Saints. Richest club in championship... . R. Soles[/p][/quote]Not when the aft ibcth takes all the money out of the club and ditches it, ring any bells swing low thesaint88
  • Score: 2

8:46pm Fri 25 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

SaintSherman wrote:
With a further £20 million in the Southampton bank there is more then enough to replace Lovren. Despite the fact that the time is running out before the season starts it's vital to get in the right players for the right price.
Every player is replaceable especially those with a poor attitude, we go again next season and with Koeman in charge I have full faith he can build a competitive team.
Sweet dreans are made of these.
[quote][p][bold]SaintSherman[/bold] wrote: With a further £20 million in the Southampton bank there is more then enough to replace Lovren. Despite the fact that the time is running out before the season starts it's vital to get in the right players for the right price. Every player is replaceable especially those with a poor attitude, we go again next season and with Koeman in charge I have full faith he can build a competitive team.[/p][/quote]Sweet dreans are made of these. echo1948
  • Score: 4

8:47pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

echo1948 wrote:
Billy liar wrote:
Saints. Richest club in championship...
.


R. Soles
Been saying this for weeks.
If you wish for it often enough do you believe it will happen?
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Billy liar[/bold] wrote: Saints. Richest club in championship... . R. Soles[/p][/quote]Been saying this for weeks.[/p][/quote]If you wish for it often enough do you believe it will happen? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

8:48pm Fri 25 Jul 14

SaintJD says...

jls217 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer.
More to follow next week.

Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren?
A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good.


Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best.
Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week.

101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months.
:-(
Disagree - If we have someone who doesn't want to put his heart into the club then we are better off without him and giving the shirt to someone who wants to grab the chance to prove himself. Lovren didn't cost 20m did he? We made him worth that money and now we reap the reward and another viper is moved on to be replaced by another 8m player eager to fill his boots even if only for a couple of season before he too moves on. This is what Saints have always done and will probably continue to do. Any ferking idjit can be miserable mate. It takes a bit of gumption to be in cesspit and find the happiness therein. It's all about choices and the situation is getting better by the week.
Ha, ha, that's funny - slag off people for being negative and then compare the club to a cesspit. Hilarious. As for the situation getting better by the week that's just pure fantasy.

It may get better by the week, but it sure ain't happening yet.

Now, a sensible, realistic and non negative news flash: before the weekend is out you will start hearing speculation suggesting one or more of the following: Spider asking for a transfer/clubs stepping up their interest/us considering replacements in case he leaves but not before/us rejecting a bid (we accept about a week later).

Thank goodness J-Rod is injured or he'd be the subject of intense speculation, and rightly so.

But yes, I will support the Saints 100%, I will be excited and hopeful that we can somehow defy expectations and have a comfortable, exciting season.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer. More to follow next week. Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren? A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good. Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best. Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week. 101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months. :-([/p][/quote]Disagree - If we have someone who doesn't want to put his heart into the club then we are better off without him and giving the shirt to someone who wants to grab the chance to prove himself. Lovren didn't cost 20m did he? We made him worth that money and now we reap the reward and another viper is moved on to be replaced by another 8m player eager to fill his boots even if only for a couple of season before he too moves on. This is what Saints have always done and will probably continue to do. Any ferking idjit can be miserable mate. It takes a bit of gumption to be in cesspit and find the happiness therein. It's all about choices and the situation is getting better by the week.[/p][/quote]Ha, ha, that's funny - slag off people for being negative and then compare the club to a cesspit. Hilarious. As for the situation getting better by the week that's just pure fantasy. It may get better by the week, but it sure ain't happening yet. Now, a sensible, realistic and non negative news flash: before the weekend is out you will start hearing speculation suggesting one or more of the following: Spider asking for a transfer/clubs stepping up their interest/us considering replacements in case he leaves but not before/us rejecting a bid (we accept about a week later). Thank goodness J-Rod is injured or he'd be the subject of intense speculation, and rightly so. But yes, I will support the Saints 100%, I will be excited and hopeful that we can somehow defy expectations and have a comfortable, exciting season. SaintJD
  • Score: 13

8:48pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

echo1948 wrote:
SaintSherman wrote:
With a further £20 million in the Southampton bank there is more then enough to replace Lovren. Despite the fact that the time is running out before the season starts it's vital to get in the right players for the right price.
Every player is replaceable especially those with a poor attitude, we go again next season and with Koeman in charge I have full faith he can build a competitive team.
Sweet dreans are made of these.
But you only have sour dreans?
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintSherman[/bold] wrote: With a further £20 million in the Southampton bank there is more then enough to replace Lovren. Despite the fact that the time is running out before the season starts it's vital to get in the right players for the right price. Every player is replaceable especially those with a poor attitude, we go again next season and with Koeman in charge I have full faith he can build a competitive team.[/p][/quote]Sweet dreans are made of these.[/p][/quote]But you only have sour dreans? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -6

8:49pm Fri 25 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
She,s now got most of that back by selling our players and not replacing them.
[quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]She,s now got most of that back by selling our players and not replacing them. echo1948
  • Score: 6

8:50pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Clever Dick wrote:
deepheat wrote:
To all Liverpool fans.
Save money on expensive new kits by simply strapping a large fake penis to your forehead. It is now clear to all, as to your allegiance.
Don't you mean a small fake penis.?
With made in Hampshire stamped on it and a tag saying quality tested on pure 'ampshire 'ogs. And give it a price list of 20m - they'll buy em by the thousands.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: To all Liverpool fans. Save money on expensive new kits by simply strapping a large fake penis to your forehead. It is now clear to all, as to your allegiance.[/p][/quote]Don't you mean a small fake penis.?[/p][/quote]With made in Hampshire stamped on it and a tag saying quality tested on pure 'ampshire 'ogs. And give it a price list of 20m - they'll buy em by the thousands. jls217
  • Score: -8

8:51pm Fri 25 Jul 14

NewForestStu says...

Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
Not doin to bad on her return now tho eh? Lets see what world class signings we bring it ...not long now till the start of season...plenty of time to bed in a new team. Hang on, only Schneiderlin to go and reckon we are about done. Hang on, forgot Chambers.

Still, at least we sll bought our season tickets that month earlier.
[quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]Not doin to bad on her return now tho eh? Lets see what world class signings we bring it ...not long now till the start of season...plenty of time to bed in a new team. Hang on, only Schneiderlin to go and reckon we are about done. Hang on, forgot Chambers. Still, at least we sll bought our season tickets that month earlier. NewForestStu
  • Score: 10

8:52pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
Steve_N wrote:
Ta very much Liverhampton. RoKo now go sign van Dijk and de Vrij for similar money.
Ain,t gonna happen.
B*gger off you miserable old ..................
Sorry, but it is enough to make a Saint weep.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve_N[/bold] wrote: Ta very much Liverhampton. RoKo now go sign van Dijk and de Vrij for similar money.[/p][/quote]Ain,t gonna happen.[/p][/quote]B*gger off you miserable old ..................[/p][/quote]Sorry, but it is enough to make a Saint weep. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -9

8:55pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Chapperall wrote:
Malcombe wrote:
jason odd

Have you had your head in the Sand since January this year? If you have I'll update you regarding Southampton Players. I would like to inform you that Rickie Lambert who is a fantastic Player was transferred to Liverpool for £5million possibly as bait for others to join him, in Football he could be in his twilight years but for Rickie it was a dream come true, he's been very honest and got his wish that he's had since a child to play for Liverpool and for that he has the Southampton Supporters best wishes and he will be missed, Adam Lallana was seduced possibly with more money and help from his Agent and Steven Gerrard who could of had instructions from Brendan Rodgers this we'll never know, he too wanted to leave his excuse he wanted CLF so he didn't want to play for Southampton again, he's probably increased his Salary by 2/3rds and sold for a very good fee of £26million, Luke Shaw was also seduced with the thought of increasing his monthly Salary by 4/5th he was sold for £27million and did not want to play for Southampton FC again, Dejan Lovren has now been sold for £20 million, he made it very obvious by saying the song of Gerry Marsden singing gave him goose bumps and his head was already in Liverpool, goodness knows where the rest of his body was, he too had no intentions of wanting to stay and play for Southampton FC.

Imagine your are Les Reed and you probably knew these Players wanted to leave early this year and you've had to sit down with these definitely want away don't want to play for Southampton again Players how would you handle this problem, would you lock them in a room or Barn until they scream ok I'll stay and play for Southampton I'm sorry I won't complain again ? They did not want to stay and play for Southampton ever again is that clear to you because it is to thousands of the Supporters? Not one Supporter wanted any of these Players to leave, it's been a horrible few months, the Team was the best it's ever been and the thought of progress continuing on next season was even more exciting but they were being Coached by a very dishonest man Potchettino not that any of us suspected this, IMO he Coached and Managed this year under total false pretences, it's fair to say he introduced a style of play that had admiration from Football Fans all over the world but this year he proved to be disloyal and a liar, his head wasn't in Southampton it was to a rival Premiership Club and it also coincided with the exodus of Players, did he have an influence and encouraged the Players to leave Southampton? We all hope it's the end of Players leaving but it possibly hasn't stopped yet, Morgan Schneiderlin and the very latest news Callum Chambers could be going to Arsenal another horrible moment for the Supporters, Les Reed has been castigated this year but IOM he would tread over hot coals to keep all these Players at Southampton but the Players know the way to manipulate the Club and disrespect and ignore any contract they sign.

Les Reed has a thankless task and IMO knew the Players wanted out but could not reveal the truth he instead has to be diplomatic to all the Supporters he has to choose his words, he probably would love to be transparent but it's not always wise as it could cause disruption to soon to a Club who's Players are playing the best the have ever played and there valuation could drop dramatically when hell breaks out.
The essence of this post is don't blame Les and the Board blame the Players who wanted out because a seed was sown possibly by Potchettino and they were all motivated by him and loyalty is just a word but money money money has a desired affect.
Now is the time to be positive and move on and give 100% support love and trust to Southampton Football Club The Saints.
Just another hand wringer
Or someone who has his finger on the pulse of the realities of the situation rather than wanting to find a scapegoat and latching onto the first one that comes to mind. You'd have been at the front shouting burn the witch wouldn't you?
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: jason odd Have you had your head in the Sand since January this year? If you have I'll update you regarding Southampton Players. I would like to inform you that Rickie Lambert who is a fantastic Player was transferred to Liverpool for £5million possibly as bait for others to join him, in Football he could be in his twilight years but for Rickie it was a dream come true, he's been very honest and got his wish that he's had since a child to play for Liverpool and for that he has the Southampton Supporters best wishes and he will be missed, Adam Lallana was seduced possibly with more money and help from his Agent and Steven Gerrard who could of had instructions from Brendan Rodgers this we'll never know, he too wanted to leave his excuse he wanted CLF so he didn't want to play for Southampton again, he's probably increased his Salary by 2/3rds and sold for a very good fee of £26million, Luke Shaw was also seduced with the thought of increasing his monthly Salary by 4/5th he was sold for £27million and did not want to play for Southampton FC again, Dejan Lovren has now been sold for £20 million, he made it very obvious by saying the song of Gerry Marsden singing gave him goose bumps and his head was already in Liverpool, goodness knows where the rest of his body was, he too had no intentions of wanting to stay and play for Southampton FC. Imagine your are Les Reed and you probably knew these Players wanted to leave early this year and you've had to sit down with these definitely want away don't want to play for Southampton again Players how would you handle this problem, would you lock them in a room or Barn until they scream ok I'll stay and play for Southampton I'm sorry I won't complain again ? They did not want to stay and play for Southampton ever again is that clear to you because it is to thousands of the Supporters? Not one Supporter wanted any of these Players to leave, it's been a horrible few months, the Team was the best it's ever been and the thought of progress continuing on next season was even more exciting but they were being Coached by a very dishonest man Potchettino not that any of us suspected this, IMO he Coached and Managed this year under total false pretences, it's fair to say he introduced a style of play that had admiration from Football Fans all over the world but this year he proved to be disloyal and a liar, his head wasn't in Southampton it was to a rival Premiership Club and it also coincided with the exodus of Players, did he have an influence and encouraged the Players to leave Southampton? We all hope it's the end of Players leaving but it possibly hasn't stopped yet, Morgan Schneiderlin and the very latest news Callum Chambers could be going to Arsenal another horrible moment for the Supporters, Les Reed has been castigated this year but IOM he would tread over hot coals to keep all these Players at Southampton but the Players know the way to manipulate the Club and disrespect and ignore any contract they sign. Les Reed has a thankless task and IMO knew the Players wanted out but could not reveal the truth he instead has to be diplomatic to all the Supporters he has to choose his words, he probably would love to be transparent but it's not always wise as it could cause disruption to soon to a Club who's Players are playing the best the have ever played and there valuation could drop dramatically when hell breaks out. The essence of this post is don't blame Les and the Board blame the Players who wanted out because a seed was sown possibly by Potchettino and they were all motivated by him and loyalty is just a word but money money money has a desired affect. Now is the time to be positive and move on and give 100% support love and trust to Southampton Football Club The Saints.[/p][/quote]Just another hand wringer[/p][/quote]Or someone who has his finger on the pulse of the realities of the situation rather than wanting to find a scapegoat and latching onto the first one that comes to mind. You'd have been at the front shouting burn the witch wouldn't you? jls217
  • Score: -8

8:58pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

saint Gaz45 wrote:
All that has come out of SFC is lies..lies..and more lies...Poch happy with club and ongoing talks..preparing for next season and pre-season...no players are leaving...We are not a selling club...all money from sales will be reinvested back in the 1st team...Lovern is going nowhere..Lallana is not leaving....Luke Shaw is not leaving...oh and there are 22 backroom staff constantly looking at new players and their profiles..so any players that have come or rumoured to come are all through Koeman..so what are those so called 22 staff really doing..nothing that I can see...there wont be a firesale...no what is this then...LIES...LIES..

and more LIES..how can we ever trust the SFC board...I dont thats for sure.
Well **** off to Pompey then, your constant whining is becoming a tad tedious. Is there nothing cheerful or positive in your miserable little existence? No don't bother answering - I don't really care.
[quote][p][bold]saint Gaz45[/bold] wrote: All that has come out of SFC is lies..lies..and more lies...Poch happy with club and ongoing talks..preparing for next season and pre-season...no players are leaving...We are not a selling club...all money from sales will be reinvested back in the 1st team...Lovern is going nowhere..Lallana is not leaving....Luke Shaw is not leaving...oh and there are 22 backroom staff constantly looking at new players and their profiles..so any players that have come or rumoured to come are all through Koeman..so what are those so called 22 staff really doing..nothing that I can see...there wont be a firesale...no what is this then...LIES...LIES.. and more LIES..how can we ever trust the SFC board...I dont thats for sure.[/p][/quote]Well **** off to Pompey then, your constant whining is becoming a tad tedious. Is there nothing cheerful or positive in your miserable little existence? No don't bother answering - I don't really care. jls217
  • Score: -9

9:01pm Fri 25 Jul 14

945mrb says...

Good! Take the money saints and f;@k U Lovren. If u don't wanna be here then **** off...simples!
Good! Take the money saints and f;@k U Lovren. If u don't wanna be here then **** off...simples! 945mrb
  • Score: 2

9:03pm Fri 25 Jul 14

one in the crowd says...

saint robbie wrote:
Great deal.
He wanted to leave and saints have made 11.5 million in a year. We should be able to get two decent CBs for that 20 Million and why keep a player who wants to go? He would never give 100% if he stayed and would only cause disrupt.
I have to say that there are still so many negative comments and a lot of people panicking on here for no reason.
As Koeman stated any player who leaves will be replaced with better players, so far this is true apart from a LB where by all accounts the lad Targett is just as good if not better than Shaw.

I for one fully trust the owner, board and manager and believe that we are in a far better position now than we were this time last year.
SAINT'S BATTLE PLAN 2014

PHASE 1

Sell players to raise as much money as possible, replacing as many of them as one can as cheaply as possible.

The owners of Saint's have now got back more than they have invested in the club.


PHASE 2

Sell Saint's for the highest price that one can get whilst it is still in the Premier League.

Having already harvested money from the sale of players ( any more player sales being an extra bonus ), the figure raised by selling the club isn't really important if one is quitting football club ownership.
[quote][p][bold]saint robbie[/bold] wrote: Great deal. He wanted to leave and saints have made 11.5 million in a year. We should be able to get two decent CBs for that 20 Million and why keep a player who wants to go? He would never give 100% if he stayed and would only cause disrupt. I have to say that there are still so many negative comments and a lot of people panicking on here for no reason. As Koeman stated any player who leaves will be replaced with better players, so far this is true apart from a LB where by all accounts the lad Targett is just as good if not better than Shaw. I for one fully trust the owner, board and manager and believe that we are in a far better position now than we were this time last year.[/p][/quote]SAINT'S BATTLE PLAN 2014 PHASE 1 Sell players to raise as much money as possible, replacing as many of them as one can as cheaply as possible. The owners of Saint's have now got back more than they have invested in the club. PHASE 2 Sell Saint's for the highest price that one can get whilst it is still in the Premier League. Having already harvested money from the sale of players ( any more player sales being an extra bonus ), the figure raised by selling the club isn't really important if one is quitting football club ownership. one in the crowd
  • Score: -6

9:05pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Blue means Success says...

See, You have got Roko for a season or two. He will get his feet under the PL table and clear off

We have got Roko our new train pitches which we as fans will have paid out 250k for. Our Roko will last for a generation or more.

You get what you put into life.

Where are you fans demonstrations. Do you actually care what I going on?
See, You have got Roko for a season or two. He will get his feet under the PL table and clear off We have got Roko our new train pitches which we as fans will have paid out 250k for. Our Roko will last for a generation or more. You get what you put into life. Where are you fans demonstrations. Do you actually care what I going on? Blue means Success
  • Score: -5

9:07pm Fri 25 Jul 14

NewForestStu says...

Well for those suggesting we would see our best players sold and the club put up for sale i would say stage one is almost complete (apart from MS, CC and maybe JRod still to go once back in action).

Still after the pressure Villa are under at least they try and say the right things...i.e. Vlar is NOT for sale.
Well for those suggesting we would see our best players sold and the club put up for sale i would say stage one is almost complete (apart from MS, CC and maybe JRod still to go once back in action). Still after the pressure Villa are under at least they try and say the right things...i.e. Vlar is NOT for sale. NewForestStu
  • Score: 12

9:08pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Forest Saint wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.
Then you've answered your own question. If any money (any at all) comes into the club then it is all hers, to do with as she **** well pleases and doesn't need your permission or NC's or anyone else blessing to use it any way she wishes. If as little as one pound of that money goes on the club then it is her investing it. Her money paying for the lights, her paying for the loans, her paying for the training facilities, her paying a lot of people a monthly wage in Southampton. With the attitude of some of you I would even forgive her for saying enough is enough, not a penny more selling it all off and going where she might get some respect and appreciation. What an ungrateful bunch of arseholes some of you are.
[quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.[/p][/quote]Then you've answered your own question. If any money (any at all) comes into the club then it is all hers, to do with as she **** well pleases and doesn't need your permission or NC's or anyone else blessing to use it any way she wishes. If as little as one pound of that money goes on the club then it is her investing it. Her money paying for the lights, her paying for the loans, her paying for the training facilities, her paying a lot of people a monthly wage in Southampton. With the attitude of some of you I would even forgive her for saying enough is enough, not a penny more selling it all off and going where she might get some respect and appreciation. What an ungrateful bunch of arseholes some of you are. jls217
  • Score: -3

9:09pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Independence for Marchwood wrote:
I really hope he finds his head in Liverpool. Apparently it's been there a while already.
I think you'll find its been up his @rse,all the time.
[quote][p][bold]Independence for Marchwood[/bold] wrote: I really hope he finds his head in Liverpool. Apparently it's been there a while already.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find its been up his @rse,all the time. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 7

9:17pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Blue means Success says...

Do any of your fans seriously think JayRod will be staying when he is fit?
Do any of your fans seriously think JayRod will be staying when he is fit? Blue means Success
  • Score: -8

9:20pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jasons odd says...

jls217 wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Stupid boy.
He makes a lot more sense than you
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Stupid boy.[/p][/quote]He makes a lot more sense than you jasons odd
  • Score: 6

9:21pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

george chivers wrote:
See the pied eyed scousers sitting
Perched in the sun
Stealing our players
With the point of a pen
The "Triangle" giggles
And the Albion band plays slow
Farewell Dejan Lovren
Your wallet's on fire
Now it's your turn to go.

With apologies to Bob and Poz.
I can see through their masks,
them that never done nothin'
but build to destroy,
they play with my world,
like its their little toy,
but like Judas of old,
they lie..and deceive.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: See the pied eyed scousers sitting Perched in the sun Stealing our players With the point of a pen The "Triangle" giggles And the Albion band plays slow Farewell Dejan Lovren Your wallet's on fire Now it's your turn to go. With apologies to Bob and Poz.[/p][/quote]I can see through their masks, them that never done nothin' but build to destroy, they play with my world, like its their little toy, but like Judas of old, they lie..and deceive. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

9:21pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Blue means Success says...

Your defence will ship at least 60 goals next year unless you can get a world lass defensive leader in very soon. That means a relegation battle - or at best for or five placesabove the drop zone.
Your defence will ship at least 60 goals next year unless you can get a world lass defensive leader in very soon. That means a relegation battle - or at best for or five placesabove the drop zone. Blue means Success
  • Score: -6

9:24pm Fri 25 Jul 14

NewForestStu says...

Rickie went.....no problems there. All the board had to do thereafter was flatly refuse to sell anyone else. As soon as they buckled to that petulant **** Lallana the presedence was set and hence the domino effect. This will not be the last player to go pre season. If anyone wants out now they know they can walk or simply say i am not interested in SFC anymore and we will fold.

Its fine saying whoopee 20M for Lovren but it aint just about signing another CB. We could sign the best CB in the world but dont mean he will be able to play alongside Fonte say. We are now extremely vulnerable at the back. Lundekvam was not the best central defender but alongside Ken Monkou, Dean Richards and then Svensson there was an understanding. Fonte on his own is gonna be frightening unless he gels straight away with who ( if anybody) comed in.
Rickie went.....no problems there. All the board had to do thereafter was flatly refuse to sell anyone else. As soon as they buckled to that petulant **** Lallana the presedence was set and hence the domino effect. This will not be the last player to go pre season. If anyone wants out now they know they can walk or simply say i am not interested in SFC anymore and we will fold. Its fine saying whoopee 20M for Lovren but it aint just about signing another CB. We could sign the best CB in the world but dont mean he will be able to play alongside Fonte say. We are now extremely vulnerable at the back. Lundekvam was not the best central defender but alongside Ken Monkou, Dean Richards and then Svensson there was an understanding. Fonte on his own is gonna be frightening unless he gels straight away with who ( if anybody) comed in. NewForestStu
  • Score: 11

9:32pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Crispinmumbles says...

GOOD RIDDANCE. Disgusting money grabbing, dis-loyal unappreciative mercenary and Liverpool have paid twenty million? Beautiful, I hope he shows them the same loyalty he showed us. They've broken up a successful team and lost their only World class cannibal err sorry I meant player. Priceless. Enjoy your short and not to be soon repeated Champions League stint. £20m, that's about £1m for every penalty he gave away last season. Keep the faith people, Koeman wouldn't have come here without cast iron guarantees about spending money and stop slagging of Ms Liebherr, give her a chance. What choice has she had in all this, judge her on the money spent and players bought in.
GOOD RIDDANCE. Disgusting money grabbing, dis-loyal unappreciative mercenary and Liverpool have paid twenty million? Beautiful, I hope he shows them the same loyalty he showed us. They've broken up a successful team and lost their only World class cannibal err sorry I meant player. Priceless. Enjoy your short and not to be soon repeated Champions League stint. £20m, that's about £1m for every penalty he gave away last season. Keep the faith people, Koeman wouldn't have come here without cast iron guarantees about spending money and stop slagging of Ms Liebherr, give her a chance. What choice has she had in all this, judge her on the money spent and players bought in. Crispinmumbles
  • Score: 5

9:40pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jls217 says...

SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer.
More to follow next week.

Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren?
A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good.


Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best.
Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week.

101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months.
:-(
Disagree - If we have someone who doesn't want to put his heart into the club then we are better off without him and giving the shirt to someone who wants to grab the chance to prove himself. Lovren didn't cost 20m did he? We made him worth that money and now we reap the reward and another viper is moved on to be replaced by another 8m player eager to fill his boots even if only for a couple of season before he too moves on. This is what Saints have always done and will probably continue to do. Any ferking idjit can be miserable mate. It takes a bit of gumption to be in cesspit and find the happiness therein. It's all about choices and the situation is getting better by the week.
Ha, ha, that's funny - slag off people for being negative and then compare the club to a cesspit. Hilarious. As for the situation getting better by the week that's just pure fantasy.

It may get better by the week, but it sure ain't happening yet.

Now, a sensible, realistic and non negative news flash: before the weekend is out you will start hearing speculation suggesting one or more of the following: Spider asking for a transfer/clubs stepping up their interest/us considering replacements in case he leaves but not before/us rejecting a bid (we accept about a week later).

Thank goodness J-Rod is injured or he'd be the subject of intense speculation, and rightly so.

But yes, I will support the Saints 100%, I will be excited and hopeful that we can somehow defy expectations and have a comfortable, exciting season.
Not the club mate the situation the club has been tossed into. Don't try to second guess (it can make one look very silly indeed) just ask if you're confused in any way.
Not slagging people off for being merely negative - once again just ask. For being freaking dumb, stupid and not thinking of what the alternative meaning to any statement before launching on an over-emotional chav like diatribe of illogical nonsense - well, let's say I would like to think I'm asking them to take perspective if they are capable of doing so, in the vernacular on second thoughts I might just be slagging them off. As for the newsflash - no great drama there, I wouldn't like to see Spyder go or JRod when the opportunity arises for him. I would like to put all but Liarllana back in red and white stripes for the coming season but it can't happen and if Spyder asks for a transfer then he has to go the way of the rest of them if we can't afford his talents, and his locker will be taken by his replacement and the whole cycle starts again. The only constant will be the likes of you and me with our arses on a bench in the middle of February thinking we could have put the money for the ticket to better use but knowing we'll be back in the same old seat as soon as we can.Life as a Saints fan is never dull - a veritable roller coaster ride. All cesspits are equal but some are more equal than others.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer. More to follow next week. Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren? A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good. Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best. Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week. 101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months. :-([/p][/quote]Disagree - If we have someone who doesn't want to put his heart into the club then we are better off without him and giving the shirt to someone who wants to grab the chance to prove himself. Lovren didn't cost 20m did he? We made him worth that money and now we reap the reward and another viper is moved on to be replaced by another 8m player eager to fill his boots even if only for a couple of season before he too moves on. This is what Saints have always done and will probably continue to do. Any ferking idjit can be miserable mate. It takes a bit of gumption to be in cesspit and find the happiness therein. It's all about choices and the situation is getting better by the week.[/p][/quote]Ha, ha, that's funny - slag off people for being negative and then compare the club to a cesspit. Hilarious. As for the situation getting better by the week that's just pure fantasy. It may get better by the week, but it sure ain't happening yet. Now, a sensible, realistic and non negative news flash: before the weekend is out you will start hearing speculation suggesting one or more of the following: Spider asking for a transfer/clubs stepping up their interest/us considering replacements in case he leaves but not before/us rejecting a bid (we accept about a week later). Thank goodness J-Rod is injured or he'd be the subject of intense speculation, and rightly so. But yes, I will support the Saints 100%, I will be excited and hopeful that we can somehow defy expectations and have a comfortable, exciting season.[/p][/quote]Not the club mate the situation the club has been tossed into. Don't try to second guess (it can make one look very silly indeed) just ask if you're confused in any way. Not slagging people off for being merely negative - once again just ask. For being freaking dumb, stupid and not thinking of what the alternative meaning to any statement before launching on an over-emotional chav like diatribe of illogical nonsense - well, let's say I would like to think I'm asking them to take perspective if they are capable of doing so, in the vernacular on second thoughts I might just be slagging them off. As for the newsflash - no great drama there, I wouldn't like to see Spyder go or JRod when the opportunity arises for him. I would like to put all but Liarllana back in red and white stripes for the coming season but it can't happen and if Spyder asks for a transfer then he has to go the way of the rest of them if we can't afford his talents, and his locker will be taken by his replacement and the whole cycle starts again. The only constant will be the likes of you and me with our arses on a bench in the middle of February thinking we could have put the money for the ticket to better use but knowing we'll be back in the same old seat as soon as we can.Life as a Saints fan is never dull - a veritable roller coaster ride. All cesspits are equal but some are more equal than others. jls217
  • Score: -3

9:41pm Fri 25 Jul 14

M.U.CS1 says...

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, the players are like rats deserting a sinking ship ! No one wants to play for Southampton, and who can blame them, after all, have southampton ever won anything ?
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, the players are like rats deserting a sinking ship ! No one wants to play for Southampton, and who can blame them, after all, have southampton ever won anything ? M.U.CS1
  • Score: -9

9:44pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, the players are like rats deserting a sinking ship ! No one wants to play for Southampton, and who can blame them, after all, have southampton ever won anything ?
Back to Minecraft please.
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, the players are like rats deserting a sinking ship ! No one wants to play for Southampton, and who can blame them, after all, have southampton ever won anything ?[/p][/quote]Back to Minecraft please. Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 7

9:44pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, the players are like rats deserting a sinking ship ! No one wants to play for Southampton, and who can blame them, after all, have southampton ever won anything ?
Won 1 0 again tonight
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, the players are like rats deserting a sinking ship ! No one wants to play for Southampton, and who can blame them, after all, have southampton ever won anything ?[/p][/quote]Won 1 0 again tonight OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 6

9:45pm Fri 25 Jul 14

miltonnroad76 says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, the players are like rats deserting a sinking ship ! No one wants to play for Southampton, and who can blame them, after all, have southampton ever won anything ?
The fa cup against your team when we were in 2nd division ....tho you probably werent a fan when they we ****
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, the players are like rats deserting a sinking ship ! No one wants to play for Southampton, and who can blame them, after all, have southampton ever won anything ?[/p][/quote]The fa cup against your team when we were in 2nd division ....tho you probably werent a fan when they we **** miltonnroad76
  • Score: 9

9:45pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Lehman Bros Banker says...

Southampton FC it's clear now it stands for Southampton Feeder Club. 4 men overboard and Schneiderlin surely odds on to follow. Then there's Chambers and Clyne surely of interest to many. How to call a halt other than using transfer income to substantially raise the wages for those that remain. Cork is now in an excellent bargaining place to get a massive pay rise if he commits to the club. Who can blame them all really it's all about money.

We can at least use our financial muscle to bully the likes of Celtic and Villa. It's the law of the jungle in football. The only loyalty comes from the fans, not players not managers not owners.

Things could be alot worse at St Mary's. You only have to look at Pompey Blackpool and Bristol Rovers to name but three.

Investment in the Academy will ultimately secure our survival and the men overboard will give a chance to Koeman to build his team and hopefully give the likes of Targett and Reed that's Harrison not Les, who has just signed a new 4 year contract,, the chances that otherwise they would have waited much longer for.

As for the Liverpool 3 the Champions League will be all much ado about nothing, a one season wonder.

Anyway Saints have alot of money to spend. Go and get those players Koeman and let's start rebuilding the team we call Southampton.
Southampton FC it's clear now it stands for Southampton Feeder Club. 4 men overboard and Schneiderlin surely odds on to follow. Then there's Chambers and Clyne surely of interest to many. How to call a halt other than using transfer income to substantially raise the wages for those that remain. Cork is now in an excellent bargaining place to get a massive pay rise if he commits to the club. Who can blame them all really it's all about money. We can at least use our financial muscle to bully the likes of Celtic and Villa. It's the law of the jungle in football. The only loyalty comes from the fans, not players not managers not owners. Things could be alot worse at St Mary's. You only have to look at Pompey Blackpool and Bristol Rovers to name but three. Investment in the Academy will ultimately secure our survival and the men overboard will give a chance to Koeman to build his team and hopefully give the likes of Targett and Reed that's Harrison not Les, who has just signed a new 4 year contract,, the chances that otherwise they would have waited much longer for. As for the Liverpool 3 the Champions League will be all much ado about nothing, a one season wonder. Anyway Saints have alot of money to spend. Go and get those players Koeman and let's start rebuilding the team we call Southampton. Lehman Bros Banker
  • Score: 10

9:45pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Blue means Success wrote:
Your defence will ship at least 60 goals next year unless you can get a world lass defensive leader in very soon. That means a relegation battle - or at best for or five placesabove the drop zone.
4 games so far four clean sheets with a depleted defence.
[quote][p][bold]Blue means Success[/bold] wrote: Your defence will ship at least 60 goals next year unless you can get a world lass defensive leader in very soon. That means a relegation battle - or at best for or five placesabove the drop zone.[/p][/quote]4 games so far four clean sheets with a depleted defence. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

9:47pm Fri 25 Jul 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

Independence for Marchwood wrote:
I really hope he finds his head in Liverpool. Apparently it's been there a while already.
Its UP Brendan s ARS^
[quote][p][bold]Independence for Marchwood[/bold] wrote: I really hope he finds his head in Liverpool. Apparently it's been there a while already.[/p][/quote]Its UP Brendan s ARS^ SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: 4

9:49pm Fri 25 Jul 14

sparky130a says...

After his comments i never wanted to see him in the shirt again. We got a decent price, as with the others time to move on.

However, we seriously need to get moving and get our own business done.
After his comments i never wanted to see him in the shirt again. We got a decent price, as with the others time to move on. However, we seriously need to get moving and get our own business done. sparky130a
  • Score: 6

9:50pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Blue means Success wrote:
Do any of your fans seriously think JayRod will be staying when he is fit?
Yep. Do you ever think you will see a decent player signing for you in the near future?
[quote][p][bold]Blue means Success[/bold] wrote: Do any of your fans seriously think JayRod will be staying when he is fit?[/p][/quote]Yep. Do you ever think you will see a decent player signing for you in the near future? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

9:54pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

one in the crowd wrote:
saint robbie wrote:
Great deal.
He wanted to leave and saints have made 11.5 million in a year. We should be able to get two decent CBs for that 20 Million and why keep a player who wants to go? He would never give 100% if he stayed and would only cause disrupt.
I have to say that there are still so many negative comments and a lot of people panicking on here for no reason.
As Koeman stated any player who leaves will be replaced with better players, so far this is true apart from a LB where by all accounts the lad Targett is just as good if not better than Shaw.

I for one fully trust the owner, board and manager and believe that we are in a far better position now than we were this time last year.
SAINT'S BATTLE PLAN 2014

PHASE 1

Sell players to raise as much money as possible, replacing as many of them as one can as cheaply as possible.

The owners of Saint's have now got back more than they have invested in the club.


PHASE 2

Sell Saint's for the highest price that one can get whilst it is still in the Premier League.

Having already harvested money from the sale of players ( any more player sales being an extra bonus ), the figure raised by selling the club isn't really important if one is quitting football club ownership.
Scouse
Plan One: Buy every player we can to make sure they can't play for anyone else.
Plan Two: Try to figure out what the hell we are going to do with all of these superstars that will be sat on the bench.
Plan Three: Ask the bank for some more money to buy some more benches.
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint robbie[/bold] wrote: Great deal. He wanted to leave and saints have made 11.5 million in a year. We should be able to get two decent CBs for that 20 Million and why keep a player who wants to go? He would never give 100% if he stayed and would only cause disrupt. I have to say that there are still so many negative comments and a lot of people panicking on here for no reason. As Koeman stated any player who leaves will be replaced with better players, so far this is true apart from a LB where by all accounts the lad Targett is just as good if not better than Shaw. I for one fully trust the owner, board and manager and believe that we are in a far better position now than we were this time last year.[/p][/quote]SAINT'S BATTLE PLAN 2014 PHASE 1 Sell players to raise as much money as possible, replacing as many of them as one can as cheaply as possible. The owners of Saint's have now got back more than they have invested in the club. PHASE 2 Sell Saint's for the highest price that one can get whilst it is still in the Premier League. Having already harvested money from the sale of players ( any more player sales being an extra bonus ), the figure raised by selling the club isn't really important if one is quitting football club ownership.[/p][/quote]Scouse Plan One: Buy every player we can to make sure they can't play for anyone else. Plan Two: Try to figure out what the hell we are going to do with all of these superstars that will be sat on the bench. Plan Three: Ask the bank for some more money to buy some more benches. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -4

9:56pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jasons odd says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Stupid boy.
He makes a lot more sense than you
Only to a twerp like you though.
Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Stupid boy.[/p][/quote]He makes a lot more sense than you[/p][/quote]Only to a twerp like you though.[/p][/quote]Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature jasons odd
  • Score: 9

9:57pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Blue means Success wrote:
Your defence will ship at least 60 goals next year unless you can get a world lass defensive leader in very soon. That means a relegation battle - or at best for or five placesabove the drop zone.
4 games so far four clean sheets with a depleted defence.
That's the spirit Osprey...its going to be ALL RIGHT,I know it is!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blue means Success[/bold] wrote: Your defence will ship at least 60 goals next year unless you can get a world lass defensive leader in very soon. That means a relegation battle - or at best for or five placesabove the drop zone.[/p][/quote]4 games so far four clean sheets with a depleted defence.[/p][/quote]That's the spirit Osprey...its going to be ALL RIGHT,I know it is! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 5

9:59pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Crispinmumbles says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, the players are like rats deserting a sinking ship ! No one wants to play for Southampton, and who can blame them, after all, have southampton ever won anything ?
How is Cristiano Ronaldo getting on at a big club? Paul Pogba looks a fine player too, you couldn't even keep hold of a 33 year old left back under contract. Never mind, you've got Fellaini. p.s Thanks for the £30 million for a full back with one season's Premier league experience, sure your ruin him as you've done with Phil Jones, Chris Smalling and so many others. Where are your home grown players? Oh yes, gone.
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, the players are like rats deserting a sinking ship ! No one wants to play for Southampton, and who can blame them, after all, have southampton ever won anything ?[/p][/quote]How is Cristiano Ronaldo getting on at a big club? Paul Pogba looks a fine player too, you couldn't even keep hold of a 33 year old left back under contract. Never mind, you've got Fellaini. p.s Thanks for the £30 million for a full back with one season's Premier league experience, sure your ruin him as you've done with Phil Jones, Chris Smalling and so many others. Where are your home grown players? Oh yes, gone. Crispinmumbles
  • Score: 5

10:03pm Fri 25 Jul 14

NewForestStu says...

Steve_N wrote:
bathsaints wrote:
Was one of our standout players last season. It makes good sense in terms of the fee and we only want players who are committed to the club but what the flip is driving all these players away, surely we have ambition and surely we have a bit of money to pay wages etc so what is it that is driving them away. I hope Big Ron is allowed to splash the cash and 2 good centre backs please...Fonte is a better player alongside a class CB but I wouldn't fancy him and Hoover lining up at anfield in 3 weeks. Come on Les bring in Vlaar and Van Dijk....
I'll tell you what's driving (I would actually use the word luring) players away - astronomical wages which we will not (cannot?) pay and the lure of Champions League Football. OK so Man U are not in the CL this coming season, but does anyone really think they won't be there again in a few seasons, if not the one after next?
I for one do not want to see us paying wages that we cannot sustain and, god forbid, end up like that lot at the dodgy end of the M27.
Like it or not, we cannot compete with Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal - at least not until we have a stadium with a capacity of at least 45000 and are regularly selling out home matches at that level.
I have been supporting Saints for over 40 years and I'd love to see us up there with the big boys but I'm afraid money dictates and whilst we may have taken a lot in transfer fees in the last month, it ain't nothing compared to what the top clubs are able to spend on transfer fees and wages.
Whatever happens I will always support THE SAINTS
STID
To be fair, even if we had a 45,0000 capacity stadium selling out every game it would not make a difference. Money through the turnstiles is so smallfry now it pales into nothing. The amounts Utd earn from plastics buying shirts abroad far outweighs ticket sales. I have travelled many countries such and everywhere there are Utd shirts, posters and billboards etc. Even recently posters of Rooney and Van Persie everywhere. The only thing clubs that can compete are Cheski, City etc and only because their owners are minted and happy to tonk that amount of cash.

Saints will never be able to compete. As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four. Just impresses me all the more how bloxdy well Everton do each year. I would love for them or a similar club to upset the top four.

We were onto a good thing last year yet so far from the top table it is untrue.

I would love to see the day when sky go bust and the whole game goes belly up. Never happen tho
[quote][p][bold]Steve_N[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: Was one of our standout players last season. It makes good sense in terms of the fee and we only want players who are committed to the club but what the flip is driving all these players away, surely we have ambition and surely we have a bit of money to pay wages etc so what is it that is driving them away. I hope Big Ron is allowed to splash the cash and 2 good centre backs please...Fonte is a better player alongside a class CB but I wouldn't fancy him and Hoover lining up at anfield in 3 weeks. Come on Les bring in Vlaar and Van Dijk....[/p][/quote]I'll tell you what's driving (I would actually use the word luring) players away - astronomical wages which we will not (cannot?) pay and the lure of Champions League Football. OK so Man U are not in the CL this coming season, but does anyone really think they won't be there again in a few seasons, if not the one after next? I for one do not want to see us paying wages that we cannot sustain and, god forbid, end up like that lot at the dodgy end of the M27. Like it or not, we cannot compete with Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal - at least not until we have a stadium with a capacity of at least 45000 and are regularly selling out home matches at that level. I have been supporting Saints for over 40 years and I'd love to see us up there with the big boys but I'm afraid money dictates and whilst we may have taken a lot in transfer fees in the last month, it ain't nothing compared to what the top clubs are able to spend on transfer fees and wages. Whatever happens I will always support THE SAINTS STID[/p][/quote]To be fair, even if we had a 45,0000 capacity stadium selling out every game it would not make a difference. Money through the turnstiles is so smallfry now it pales into nothing. The amounts Utd earn from plastics buying shirts abroad far outweighs ticket sales. I have travelled many countries such and everywhere there are Utd shirts, posters and billboards etc. Even recently posters of Rooney and Van Persie everywhere. The only thing clubs that can compete are Cheski, City etc and only because their owners are minted and happy to tonk that amount of cash. Saints will never be able to compete. As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four. Just impresses me all the more how bloxdy well Everton do each year. I would love for them or a similar club to upset the top four. We were onto a good thing last year yet so far from the top table it is untrue. I would love to see the day when sky go bust and the whole game goes belly up. Never happen tho NewForestStu
  • Score: 9

10:04pm Fri 25 Jul 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

Most of the players that have left already have been sold for ridiculous sums of money, and I don't believe that replacing every one of them for the same price as they were sold is necessarily good business sense. I can only imagine what a juggling act it must be financially for the board who are responsible for the longevity of the team in this day and age.
However the justification is certainly there to warrant at least one world class player to make a difference and inspire the team.
So now it is definately evident to everyone that the transfers have to take some priority in the defense. I'm sure that Koeman of all people know what is required in this area. It would be a great loss to have come this far and lose it all, but whatever our opinions of the owner, the board and their dealings, rational thinking would dictate some patience is further required by fans to see how the club reacts, and see what pans out during the first few months of the EPL before getting hysterical about the possibility of relegation.
Most of the players that have left already have been sold for ridiculous sums of money, and I don't believe that replacing every one of them for the same price as they were sold is necessarily good business sense. I can only imagine what a juggling act it must be financially for the board who are responsible for the longevity of the team in this day and age. However the justification is certainly there to warrant at least one world class player to make a difference and inspire the team. So now it is definately evident to everyone that the transfers have to take some priority in the defense. I'm sure that Koeman of all people know what is required in this area. It would be a great loss to have come this far and lose it all, but whatever our opinions of the owner, the board and their dealings, rational thinking would dictate some patience is further required by fans to see how the club reacts, and see what pans out during the first few months of the EPL before getting hysterical about the possibility of relegation. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 6

10:06pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Stupid boy.
He makes a lot more sense than you
Only to a twerp like you though.
Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature
You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?
[quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Stupid boy.[/p][/quote]He makes a lot more sense than you[/p][/quote]Only to a twerp like you though.[/p][/quote]Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature[/p][/quote]You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

10:13pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

echo1948 wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
But don't worry, none of our players are up for sale, there will not be a fire sale, we do not need to sell our best players, we want to keep the core of our players together. All because Les Reed said so.

So don't panic everyone- WE ARE NOT A SELLING CLUB AND DO NOT HAVE TO SELL OUR BEST PLAYERS!!!
Rupert Lowe is alive and well!
True, but no longer involved in football God bless him.
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: But don't worry, none of our players are up for sale, there will not be a fire sale, we do not need to sell our best players, we want to keep the core of our players together. All because Les Reed said so. So don't panic everyone- WE ARE NOT A SELLING CLUB AND DO NOT HAVE TO SELL OUR BEST PLAYERS!!![/p][/quote]Rupert Lowe is alive and well![/p][/quote]True, but no longer involved in football God bless him. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -5

10:13pm Fri 25 Jul 14

miltonnroad76 says...

latest score happy clappers 3 doomongers 5 .... it has been clear for a while that lovren wanted to go has RK got any body to lined up ..seems not..has he got the the striker we need lined up seems not....if chambers and spider leave we are in deep **** esp with chambers if he goes its an indication that something is very wrong at the club...however if RK moves in the transfer market in next two weeks i beleive all will be well if he doesnt we will struggle and what about les read saying our scouts watching quality players ....where are they....unless our acadamy are so good we dont need to buy any....not looking good just over two weeks till kick off.....
latest score happy clappers 3 doomongers 5 .... it has been clear for a while that lovren wanted to go has RK got any body to lined up ..seems not..has he got the the striker we need lined up seems not....if chambers and spider leave we are in deep **** esp with chambers if he goes its an indication that something is very wrong at the club...however if RK moves in the transfer market in next two weeks i beleive all will be well if he doesnt we will struggle and what about les read saying our scouts watching quality players ....where are they....unless our acadamy are so good we dont need to buy any....not looking good just over two weeks till kick off..... miltonnroad76
  • Score: -2

10:17pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Blue means Success wrote:
Your defence will ship at least 60 goals next year unless you can get a world lass defensive leader in very soon. That means a relegation battle - or at best for or five placesabove the drop zone.
4 games so far four clean sheets with a depleted defence.
That's the spirit Osprey...its going to be ALL RIGHT,I know it is!
The style of football was pleasing, with the right signings, we could be in for a treat, but although I am a big Hoover fan, he is never going to hack it in the Premier any more.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blue means Success[/bold] wrote: Your defence will ship at least 60 goals next year unless you can get a world lass defensive leader in very soon. That means a relegation battle - or at best for or five placesabove the drop zone.[/p][/quote]4 games so far four clean sheets with a depleted defence.[/p][/quote]That's the spirit Osprey...its going to be ALL RIGHT,I know it is![/p][/quote]The style of football was pleasing, with the right signings, we could be in for a treat, but although I am a big Hoover fan, he is never going to hack it in the Premier any more. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

10:17pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Stnana says...

Rickie Lambert's head was not turned at the World Cup I have a feeling the turning happened as long ago as August 2013 when he received that fax from Brendan Rodgers after his England debut in the match v Scotland. I also think he was possibly the one who then turned the other twos heads with his tales of how fantastic everything is at Liverpool. That's my opinion anyway and I certainly will not be applauding him any more than I will the others.
Rickie Lambert's head was not turned at the World Cup I have a feeling the turning happened as long ago as August 2013 when he received that fax from Brendan Rodgers after his England debut in the match v Scotland. I also think he was possibly the one who then turned the other twos heads with his tales of how fantastic everything is at Liverpool. That's my opinion anyway and I certainly will not be applauding him any more than I will the others. Stnana
  • Score: 3

10:22pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

alanstreet46 wrote:
So many of the comments are of the ' We only want to have/keep here players who really want to be here.
Get real folks - sad to say that money is the key to loyalty these days. That and the opportunity to play in the CL in order to increase a player's Eoropean visibility, and thus 'valur' in monetary terms. Obviously most here are hard-bitten Saints supporters who hanker after the Good Old Days when players like Paine and Sydenham did feel a loyalty to the organisation that paid their wages. Why can't people understand that those days are gone forever and we have to learn to live in the real world of 'Money Talks' now
Strange comment. Isn't that exactly what most people have been saying?
[quote][p][bold]alanstreet46[/bold] wrote: So many of the comments are of the ' We only want to have/keep here players who really want to be here. Get real folks - sad to say that money is the key to loyalty these days. That and the opportunity to play in the CL in order to increase a player's Eoropean visibility, and thus 'valur' in monetary terms. Obviously most here are hard-bitten Saints supporters who hanker after the Good Old Days when players like Paine and Sydenham did feel a loyalty to the organisation that paid their wages. Why can't people understand that those days are gone forever and we have to learn to live in the real world of 'Money Talks' now[/p][/quote]Strange comment. Isn't that exactly what most people have been saying? Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

10:22pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jasons odd says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Stupid boy.
He makes a lot more sense than you
Only to a twerp like you though.
Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature
You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?
Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet .

Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ?

Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling

Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Stupid boy.[/p][/quote]He makes a lot more sense than you[/p][/quote]Only to a twerp like you though.[/p][/quote]Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature[/p][/quote]You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?[/p][/quote]Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet . Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ? Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them jasons odd
  • Score: 7

10:22pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Mister E says...

Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Utterly stupid comment.
[quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Utterly stupid comment. Mister E
  • Score: -3

10:24pm Fri 25 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

miltonnroad76 wrote:
latest score happy clappers 3 doomongers 5 .... it has been clear for a while that lovren wanted to go has RK got any body to lined up ..seems not..has he got the the striker we need lined up seems not....if chambers and spider leave we are in deep **** esp with chambers if he goes its an indication that something is very wrong at the club...however if RK moves in the transfer market in next two weeks i beleive all will be well if he doesnt we will struggle and what about les read saying our scouts watching quality players ....where are they....unless our acadamy are so good we dont need to buy any....not looking good just over two weeks till kick off.....
OI !!!! Milton road .. I do the scores and it wont be 5 until the ball crosses the line. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: latest score happy clappers 3 doomongers 5 .... it has been clear for a while that lovren wanted to go has RK got any body to lined up ..seems not..has he got the the striker we need lined up seems not....if chambers and spider leave we are in deep **** esp with chambers if he goes its an indication that something is very wrong at the club...however if RK moves in the transfer market in next two weeks i beleive all will be well if he doesnt we will struggle and what about les read saying our scouts watching quality players ....where are they....unless our acadamy are so good we dont need to buy any....not looking good just over two weeks till kick off.....[/p][/quote]OI !!!! Milton road .. I do the scores and it wont be 5 until the ball crosses the line. ;-) costa gaz
  • Score: 4

10:26pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
miltonnroad76 wrote:
latest score happy clappers 3 doomongers 5 .... it has been clear for a while that lovren wanted to go has RK got any body to lined up ..seems not..has he got the the striker we need lined up seems not....if chambers and spider leave we are in deep **** esp with chambers if he goes its an indication that something is very wrong at the club...however if RK moves in the transfer market in next two weeks i beleive all will be well if he doesnt we will struggle and what about les read saying our scouts watching quality players ....where are they....unless our acadamy are so good we dont need to buy any....not looking good just over two weeks till kick off.....
OI !!!! Milton road .. I do the scores and it wont be 5 until the ball crosses the line. ;-)
Does the offside rule apply?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: latest score happy clappers 3 doomongers 5 .... it has been clear for a while that lovren wanted to go has RK got any body to lined up ..seems not..has he got the the striker we need lined up seems not....if chambers and spider leave we are in deep **** esp with chambers if he goes its an indication that something is very wrong at the club...however if RK moves in the transfer market in next two weeks i beleive all will be well if he doesnt we will struggle and what about les read saying our scouts watching quality players ....where are they....unless our acadamy are so good we dont need to buy any....not looking good just over two weeks till kick off.....[/p][/quote]OI !!!! Milton road .. I do the scores and it wont be 5 until the ball crosses the line. ;-)[/p][/quote]Does the offside rule apply? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

10:29pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Stupid boy.
He makes a lot more sense than you
Only to a twerp like you though.
Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature
You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?
Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet .

Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ?

Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling

Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them
So report me.
[quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Stupid boy.[/p][/quote]He makes a lot more sense than you[/p][/quote]Only to a twerp like you though.[/p][/quote]Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature[/p][/quote]You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?[/p][/quote]Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet . Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ? Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them[/p][/quote]So report me. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -9

10:29pm Fri 25 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
Andy Welsh wrote:
I know I'm going to get slated by the handwringers again, but this makes sound business sense. Selling a player who has publicly stated his desire to go, for more than double what we paid for him 12 months ago is a no brainer. I know a lot of you don't believe Saints will reinvest the money. I disagree with you and I believe that the team that starts at Liverpool will have an excellent blend of new players who Koeman wants and want to be here and academy graduates like Ward Prowse, Reed and Targett. We'll just have to wait and see who's right. Let's face it not many of us thought we'd finish 8th in the Premier League five years ago, so stranger things have happened.
How can you believe that we will spend all the transfer income Reed has told us nothing but lies and that is probably another one
Les Reed has not told us a single lie. It is quite extraordinary how many of you show hatred for the board. We’ve lost some top players but all the evidence suggests we have made enormous efforts to keep them – the only exceptions being a) Rickie, who we all accept gave great service and loyalty for the last few years deserved to go o his boyhood club and b) Osvaldo. I think that Morg will stay and will be our captain. The exodus is over. I watched the game on you tube tonight and was amazed how well the team is gelling already. Pelle was strong on and off the ball. Tadic was exceptional and played all over the field with strong back tackling, immaculate passing and great ball control. Isgove had a fantastic 1st half and scored an excellent goal. Tagett looked impressive throughout. Fonte had a good game too. Ramirez played his best 45 minutes for Saints since he joined us. RK used him to link up in the midfield and he responded really well. This is just a taster of what we will come to expect from our new manager. We will spend much of the transfer monies and it seems that quite a few deals will be struck in the next few days. I think my forecast of a top 10 finish may well prove to be rather conservative. We are on the up.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy Welsh[/bold] wrote: I know I'm going to get slated by the handwringers again, but this makes sound business sense. Selling a player who has publicly stated his desire to go, for more than double what we paid for him 12 months ago is a no brainer. I know a lot of you don't believe Saints will reinvest the money. I disagree with you and I believe that the team that starts at Liverpool will have an excellent blend of new players who Koeman wants and want to be here and academy graduates like Ward Prowse, Reed and Targett. We'll just have to wait and see who's right. Let's face it not many of us thought we'd finish 8th in the Premier League five years ago, so stranger things have happened.[/p][/quote]How can you believe that we will spend all the transfer income Reed has told us nothing but lies and that is probably another one[/p][/quote]Les Reed has not told us a single lie. It is quite extraordinary how many of you show hatred for the board. We’ve lost some top players but all the evidence suggests we have made enormous efforts to keep them – the only exceptions being a) Rickie, who we all accept gave great service and loyalty for the last few years deserved to go o his boyhood club and b) Osvaldo. I think that Morg will stay and will be our captain. The exodus is over. I watched the game on you tube tonight and was amazed how well the team is gelling already. Pelle was strong on and off the ball. Tadic was exceptional and played all over the field with strong back tackling, immaculate passing and great ball control. Isgove had a fantastic 1st half and scored an excellent goal. Tagett looked impressive throughout. Fonte had a good game too. Ramirez played his best 45 minutes for Saints since he joined us. RK used him to link up in the midfield and he responded really well. This is just a taster of what we will come to expect from our new manager. We will spend much of the transfer monies and it seems that quite a few deals will be struck in the next few days. I think my forecast of a top 10 finish may well prove to be rather conservative. We are on the up. nomorerumours
  • Score: -3

10:29pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Mister E says...

But we all knew he was going to go!
But we all knew he was going to go! Mister E
  • Score: 3

10:30pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Egomaniac says...

jls217 wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.
Then you've answered your own question. If any money (any at all) comes into the club then it is all hers, to do with as she **** well pleases and doesn't need your permission or NC's or anyone else blessing to use it any way she wishes. If as little as one pound of that money goes on the club then it is her investing it. Her money paying for the lights, her paying for the loans, her paying for the training facilities, her paying a lot of people a monthly wage in Southampton. With the attitude of some of you I would even forgive her for saying enough is enough, not a penny more selling it all off and going where she might get some respect and appreciation. What an ungrateful bunch of arseholes some of you are.
Very well said jls217! Spot on!
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.[/p][/quote]Then you've answered your own question. If any money (any at all) comes into the club then it is all hers, to do with as she **** well pleases and doesn't need your permission or NC's or anyone else blessing to use it any way she wishes. If as little as one pound of that money goes on the club then it is her investing it. Her money paying for the lights, her paying for the loans, her paying for the training facilities, her paying a lot of people a monthly wage in Southampton. With the attitude of some of you I would even forgive her for saying enough is enough, not a penny more selling it all off and going where she might get some respect and appreciation. What an ungrateful bunch of arseholes some of you are.[/p][/quote]Very well said jls217! Spot on! Egomaniac
  • Score: -1

10:31pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Blue means Success wrote:
Your defence will ship at least 60 goals next year unless you can get a world lass defensive leader in very soon. That means a relegation battle - or at best for or five placesabove the drop zone.
4 games so far four clean sheets with a depleted defence.
That's the spirit Osprey...its going to be ALL RIGHT,I know it is!
The style of football was pleasing, with the right signings, we could be in for a treat, but although I am a big Hoover fan, he is never going to hack it in the Premier any more.
Well,he's a trier,and loyal,you have to give him that,which is an admirable trait at the moment.
And,although on the face of it,it looks to have gone pear shaped,I've got to agree with you,I have this funny feeling that it isn't going to go the way the doomsayers would all have it,in fact I'm quite looking forward to next season, it because I think we are going to surprise a few people..just like last season.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blue means Success[/bold] wrote: Your defence will ship at least 60 goals next year unless you can get a world lass defensive leader in very soon. That means a relegation battle - or at best for or five placesabove the drop zone.[/p][/quote]4 games so far four clean sheets with a depleted defence.[/p][/quote]That's the spirit Osprey...its going to be ALL RIGHT,I know it is![/p][/quote]The style of football was pleasing, with the right signings, we could be in for a treat, but although I am a big Hoover fan, he is never going to hack it in the Premier any more.[/p][/quote]Well,he's a trier,and loyal,you have to give him that,which is an admirable trait at the moment. And,although on the face of it,it looks to have gone pear shaped,I've got to agree with you,I have this funny feeling that it isn't going to go the way the doomsayers would all have it,in fact I'm quite looking forward to next season, it because I think we are going to surprise a few people..just like last season. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 4

10:32pm Fri 25 Jul 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

Mister E wrote:
But we all knew he was going to go!
I wonder if he will still be playing in today's game? Maybe he suffered another 'slight knock' in training?
[quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: But we all knew he was going to go![/p][/quote]I wonder if he will still be playing in today's game? Maybe he suffered another 'slight knock' in training? KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 2

10:32pm Fri 25 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
I read the DE site every day and the comments but don't comment myself, but today I have to. I can't believe the negativity on here. Anyone who knows anything about football knows that it is impossible for a club to keep a player if that player wants to leave. All the club can hope to do is get the best price they can. RK has bought two players who look like very good signings and I am certain there will be more.
Some of the comments on here about the club and Miss Liebherr are an absolute disgrace. How about waiting until the season actually STARTS before deciding that we wont have a decent team to field!!
Rant over.
100% agree
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: I read the DE site every day and the comments but don't comment myself, but today I have to. I can't believe the negativity on here. Anyone who knows anything about football knows that it is impossible for a club to keep a player if that player wants to leave. All the club can hope to do is get the best price they can. RK has bought two players who look like very good signings and I am certain there will be more. Some of the comments on here about the club and Miss Liebherr are an absolute disgrace. How about waiting until the season actually STARTS before deciding that we wont have a decent team to field!! Rant over.[/p][/quote]100% agree nomorerumours
  • Score: -1

10:36pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Reality-man says...

Does he need a lift
Does he need a lift Reality-man
  • Score: 1

10:38pm Fri 25 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
Andy Welsh wrote:
I know I'm going to get slated by the handwringers again, but this makes sound business sense. Selling a player who has publicly stated his desire to go, for more than double what we paid for him 12 months ago is a no brainer. I know a lot of you don't believe Saints will reinvest the money. I disagree with you and I believe that the team that starts at Liverpool will have an excellent blend of new players who Koeman wants and want to be here and academy graduates like Ward Prowse, Reed and Targett. We'll just have to wait and see who's right. Let's face it not many of us thought we'd finish 8th in the Premier League five years ago, so stranger things have happened.
How can you believe that we will spend all the transfer income Reed has told us nothing but lies and that is probably another one
I think you should change your name to Saintslayer! Your hatred of the board is completely unjustified and totally unreasonabe. You just watch how we re-vest the monies with many new signings over the coming days.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy Welsh[/bold] wrote: I know I'm going to get slated by the handwringers again, but this makes sound business sense. Selling a player who has publicly stated his desire to go, for more than double what we paid for him 12 months ago is a no brainer. I know a lot of you don't believe Saints will reinvest the money. I disagree with you and I believe that the team that starts at Liverpool will have an excellent blend of new players who Koeman wants and want to be here and academy graduates like Ward Prowse, Reed and Targett. We'll just have to wait and see who's right. Let's face it not many of us thought we'd finish 8th in the Premier League five years ago, so stranger things have happened.[/p][/quote]How can you believe that we will spend all the transfer income Reed has told us nothing but lies and that is probably another one[/p][/quote]I think you should change your name to Saintslayer! Your hatred of the board is completely unjustified and totally unreasonabe. You just watch how we re-vest the monies with many new signings over the coming days. nomorerumours
  • Score: -3

10:41pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Reality-man wrote:
Does he need a lift
He teleports,he's sent his head up there already.
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Does he need a lift[/p][/quote]He teleports,he's sent his head up there already. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

10:45pm Fri 25 Jul 14

upwherewebelong says...

Malcombe wrote:
jason odd

Have you had your head in the Sand since January this year? If you have I'll update you regarding Southampton Players. I would like to inform you that Rickie Lambert who is a fantastic Player was transferred to Liverpool for £5million possibly as bait for others to join him, in Football he could be in his twilight years but for Rickie it was a dream come true, he's been very honest and got his wish that he's had since a child to play for Liverpool and for that he has the Southampton Supporters best wishes and he will be missed, Adam Lallana was seduced possibly with more money and help from his Agent and Steven Gerrard who could of had instructions from Brendan Rodgers this we'll never know, he too wanted to leave his excuse he wanted CLF so he didn't want to play for Southampton again, he's probably increased his Salary by 2/3rds and sold for a very good fee of £26million, Luke Shaw was also seduced with the thought of increasing his monthly Salary by 4/5th he was sold for £27million and did not want to play for Southampton FC again, Dejan Lovren has now been sold for £20 million, he made it very obvious by saying the song of Gerry Marsden singing gave him goose bumps and his head was already in Liverpool, goodness knows where the rest of his body was, he too had no intentions of wanting to stay and play for Southampton FC.

Imagine your are Les Reed and you probably knew these Players wanted to leave early this year and you've had to sit down with these definitely want away don't want to play for Southampton again Players how would you handle this problem, would you lock them in a room or Barn until they scream ok I'll stay and play for Southampton I'm sorry I won't complain again ? They did not want to stay and play for Southampton ever again is that clear to you because it is to thousands of the Supporters? Not one Supporter wanted any of these Players to leave, it's been a horrible few months, the Team was the best it's ever been and the thought of progress continuing on next season was even more exciting but they were being Coached by a very dishonest man Potchettino not that any of us suspected this, IMO he Coached and Managed this year under total false pretences, it's fair to say he introduced a style of play that had admiration from Football Fans all over the world but this year he proved to be disloyal and a liar, his head wasn't in Southampton it was to a rival Premiership Club and it also coincided with the exodus of Players, did he have an influence and encouraged the Players to leave Southampton? We all hope it's the end of Players leaving but it possibly hasn't stopped yet, Morgan Schneiderlin and the very latest news Callum Chambers could be going to Arsenal another horrible moment for the Supporters, Les Reed has been castigated this year but IOM he would tread over hot coals to keep all these Players at Southampton but the Players know the way to manipulate the Club and disrespect and ignore any contract they sign.

Les Reed has a thankless task and IMO knew the Players wanted out but could not reveal the truth he instead has to be diplomatic to all the Supporters he has to choose his words, he probably would love to be transparent but it's not always wise as it could cause disruption to soon to a Club who's Players are playing the best the have ever played and there valuation could drop dramatically when hell breaks out.
The essence of this post is don't blame Les and the Board blame the Players who wanted out because a seed was sown possibly by Potchettino and they were all motivated by him and loyalty is just a word but money money money has a desired affect.
Now is the time to be positive and move on and give 100% support love and trust to Southampton Football Club The Saints.
Sorry malcombe but I just think les Reed has nothing but contempt for the fans and the club and isn't work for us. The meagre token gesture of 2 signings says it all. We need to STRENGHTEN the squad not deliberately and ruthlessly dismantle the best team Saints fans have seen for many years. If Les has a scrap of decency and integrity he will do one of two things. Either a) front up and tell the fans EXACTLY why the club are doing this or b) just resign before he does further damage that even the best managers in the world couldn't repair.

And Krueger is in my opinion sitting idly by and rubbing his hand with glee at the money rolling in that isn't being reinvested. As for your challenge to give 100% love and trust to SFC well i'm sorry but trust is earnt. Love of the club is a given as it is that that has motivated this post but this board have a million miles before they earn my trust. 6 new players would slightly begin to make amends but I won't hold my breath

In closing it's sad times for us Saints fans. Being let down like this hurts
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: jason odd Have you had your head in the Sand since January this year? If you have I'll update you regarding Southampton Players. I would like to inform you that Rickie Lambert who is a fantastic Player was transferred to Liverpool for £5million possibly as bait for others to join him, in Football he could be in his twilight years but for Rickie it was a dream come true, he's been very honest and got his wish that he's had since a child to play for Liverpool and for that he has the Southampton Supporters best wishes and he will be missed, Adam Lallana was seduced possibly with more money and help from his Agent and Steven Gerrard who could of had instructions from Brendan Rodgers this we'll never know, he too wanted to leave his excuse he wanted CLF so he didn't want to play for Southampton again, he's probably increased his Salary by 2/3rds and sold for a very good fee of £26million, Luke Shaw was also seduced with the thought of increasing his monthly Salary by 4/5th he was sold for £27million and did not want to play for Southampton FC again, Dejan Lovren has now been sold for £20 million, he made it very obvious by saying the song of Gerry Marsden singing gave him goose bumps and his head was already in Liverpool, goodness knows where the rest of his body was, he too had no intentions of wanting to stay and play for Southampton FC. Imagine your are Les Reed and you probably knew these Players wanted to leave early this year and you've had to sit down with these definitely want away don't want to play for Southampton again Players how would you handle this problem, would you lock them in a room or Barn until they scream ok I'll stay and play for Southampton I'm sorry I won't complain again ? They did not want to stay and play for Southampton ever again is that clear to you because it is to thousands of the Supporters? Not one Supporter wanted any of these Players to leave, it's been a horrible few months, the Team was the best it's ever been and the thought of progress continuing on next season was even more exciting but they were being Coached by a very dishonest man Potchettino not that any of us suspected this, IMO he Coached and Managed this year under total false pretences, it's fair to say he introduced a style of play that had admiration from Football Fans all over the world but this year he proved to be disloyal and a liar, his head wasn't in Southampton it was to a rival Premiership Club and it also coincided with the exodus of Players, did he have an influence and encouraged the Players to leave Southampton? We all hope it's the end of Players leaving but it possibly hasn't stopped yet, Morgan Schneiderlin and the very latest news Callum Chambers could be going to Arsenal another horrible moment for the Supporters, Les Reed has been castigated this year but IOM he would tread over hot coals to keep all these Players at Southampton but the Players know the way to manipulate the Club and disrespect and ignore any contract they sign. Les Reed has a thankless task and IMO knew the Players wanted out but could not reveal the truth he instead has to be diplomatic to all the Supporters he has to choose his words, he probably would love to be transparent but it's not always wise as it could cause disruption to soon to a Club who's Players are playing the best the have ever played and there valuation could drop dramatically when hell breaks out. The essence of this post is don't blame Les and the Board blame the Players who wanted out because a seed was sown possibly by Potchettino and they were all motivated by him and loyalty is just a word but money money money has a desired affect. Now is the time to be positive and move on and give 100% support love and trust to Southampton Football Club The Saints.[/p][/quote]Sorry malcombe but I just think les Reed has nothing but contempt for the fans and the club and isn't work for us. The meagre token gesture of 2 signings says it all. We need to STRENGHTEN the squad not deliberately and ruthlessly dismantle the best team Saints fans have seen for many years. If Les has a scrap of decency and integrity he will do one of two things. Either a) front up and tell the fans EXACTLY why the club are doing this or b) just resign before he does further damage that even the best managers in the world couldn't repair. And Krueger is in my opinion sitting idly by and rubbing his hand with glee at the money rolling in that isn't being reinvested. As for your challenge to give 100% love and trust to SFC well i'm sorry but trust is earnt. Love of the club is a given as it is that that has motivated this post but this board have a million miles before they earn my trust. 6 new players would slightly begin to make amends but I won't hold my breath In closing it's sad times for us Saints fans. Being let down like this hurts upwherewebelong
  • Score: 9

10:46pm Fri 25 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

miltonnroad76 wrote:
latest score happy clappers 3 doomongers 5 .... it has been clear for a while that lovren wanted to go has RK got any body to lined up ..seems not..has he got the the striker we need lined up seems not....if chambers and spider leave we are in deep **** esp with chambers if he goes its an indication that something is very wrong at the club...however if RK moves in the transfer market in next two weeks i beleive all will be well if he doesnt we will struggle and what about les read saying our scouts watching quality players ....where are they....unless our acadamy are so good we dont need to buy any....not looking good just over two weeks till kick off.....
Callum Chambers off to Arsenhole tomorrow it appears.
[quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: latest score happy clappers 3 doomongers 5 .... it has been clear for a while that lovren wanted to go has RK got any body to lined up ..seems not..has he got the the striker we need lined up seems not....if chambers and spider leave we are in deep **** esp with chambers if he goes its an indication that something is very wrong at the club...however if RK moves in the transfer market in next two weeks i beleive all will be well if he doesnt we will struggle and what about les read saying our scouts watching quality players ....where are they....unless our acadamy are so good we dont need to buy any....not looking good just over two weeks till kick off.....[/p][/quote]Callum Chambers off to Arsenhole tomorrow it appears. echo1948
  • Score: 2

10:47pm Fri 25 Jul 14

hedge end bob says...

Costa my son, yes i have found a possitive in all the players leaving our club!! With the exception of one , they are just a bunch of tw@ts that claimed their loyalty to our club then leaves at the first chance they get. Our captain of last season was working out how he could leave and kissing the badge long before the season ended. I for one am glad he has left our club and as far as i'm concearned anybody that do not want to play for the SAINTS can feck off with him.
We now have to rebuild with players that want to be here and play for THE SAINTS and not the kind of players that have got above their station. MR Clattenburgh looks like he saw through Liarlana long before ANY of us SAINTS fans and i include myself ( a happy clapper as you call me ) and the doom and gloom merchants, no names needed.
The best clubs in the world can not hold onto players THAT WANT TO LEAVE. I agree that L Read has put some of the fans at war with our club but, the season does not start until AUGUST 16th 2014.
We now have a manager that is vastly better, imo , than the one that could be behind all this termile. How many games last season did we have the ball in our pocket for most of the game and still lost ??. Poochy could only play one way and his actual record shows this in percentage of wins to games played
I have only watched 45 minutes of football on my laptop of tonights game and in that time i thought we were more direct than last season. Yes i hear you shouting it was only Bournemouth for feck sake , but when the season starts proper i don't think we will be watching the same players we are now. All you doomy gloomies can THUMBS DOWN ME ALL YOU LIKE . You know what i don't give a feck.

STID ..... whatever league we play in , in 62 years off supporting THE SAINTS , i have been there, done it and got the shirt.
Costa my son, yes i have found a possitive in all the players leaving our club!! With the exception of one , they are just a bunch of tw@ts that claimed their loyalty to our club then leaves at the first chance they get. Our captain of last season was working out how he could leave and kissing the badge long before the season ended. I for one am glad he has left our club and as far as i'm concearned anybody that do not want to play for the SAINTS can feck off with him. We now have to rebuild with players that want to be here and play for THE SAINTS and not the kind of players that have got above their station. MR Clattenburgh looks like he saw through Liarlana long before ANY of us SAINTS fans and i include myself ( a happy clapper as you call me ) and the doom and gloom merchants, no names needed. The best clubs in the world can not hold onto players THAT WANT TO LEAVE. I agree that L Read has put some of the fans at war with our club but, the season does not start until AUGUST 16th 2014. We now have a manager that is vastly better, imo , than the one that could be behind all this termile. How many games last season did we have the ball in our pocket for most of the game and still lost ??. Poochy could only play one way and his actual record shows this in percentage of wins to games played I have only watched 45 minutes of football on my laptop of tonights game and in that time i thought we were more direct than last season. Yes i hear you shouting it was only Bournemouth for feck sake , but when the season starts proper i don't think we will be watching the same players we are now. All you doomy gloomies can THUMBS DOWN ME ALL YOU LIKE . You know what i don't give a feck. STID ..... whatever league we play in , in 62 years off supporting THE SAINTS , i have been there, done it and got the shirt. hedge end bob
  • Score: 5

10:48pm Fri 25 Jul 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Stupid boy.
He makes a lot more sense than you
Only to a twerp like you though.
Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature
You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?
Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet .

Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ?

Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling

Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them
So report me.
Can you guys please remember that we are Saints fans, and are here to discuss the issues surrounding the team, not use this blog as a forum to play out personal issues with each other? It is sad to see the comments section regularly descend into this kind of schoolyard antics. If you are really that offended with each other then maybe you should meet up somewhere and duke it out like men.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Stupid boy.[/p][/quote]He makes a lot more sense than you[/p][/quote]Only to a twerp like you though.[/p][/quote]Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature[/p][/quote]You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?[/p][/quote]Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet . Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ? Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them[/p][/quote]So report me.[/p][/quote]Can you guys please remember that we are Saints fans, and are here to discuss the issues surrounding the team, not use this blog as a forum to play out personal issues with each other? It is sad to see the comments section regularly descend into this kind of schoolyard antics. If you are really that offended with each other then maybe you should meet up somewhere and duke it out like men. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 4

10:48pm Fri 25 Jul 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

Any NEWS on Sipider ?????????????
Serious question not a dig , so any SKATE , foxtrott oscar NOW
Any NEWS on Sipider ????????????? Serious question not a dig , so any SKATE , foxtrott oscar NOW SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: 0

10:49pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

Crispinmumbles wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, the players are like rats deserting a sinking ship ! No one wants to play for Southampton, and who can blame them, after all, have southampton ever won anything ?
How is Cristiano Ronaldo getting on at a big club? Paul Pogba looks a fine player too, you couldn't even keep hold of a 33 year old left back under contract. Never mind, you've got Fellaini. p.s Thanks for the £30 million for a full back with one season's Premier league experience, sure your ruin him as you've done with Phil Jones, Chris Smalling and so many others. Where are your home grown players? Oh yes, gone.
None of those players ever played for his team. They try to play not far away and wear blue. Reverse the login.
[quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, the players are like rats deserting a sinking ship ! No one wants to play for Southampton, and who can blame them, after all, have southampton ever won anything ?[/p][/quote]How is Cristiano Ronaldo getting on at a big club? Paul Pogba looks a fine player too, you couldn't even keep hold of a 33 year old left back under contract. Never mind, you've got Fellaini. p.s Thanks for the £30 million for a full back with one season's Premier league experience, sure your ruin him as you've done with Phil Jones, Chris Smalling and so many others. Where are your home grown players? Oh yes, gone.[/p][/quote]None of those players ever played for his team. They try to play not far away and wear blue. Reverse the login. Rising_Son
  • Score: -1

10:50pm Fri 25 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

Looks like Chambers has signed a 5 year deal with the gunners.
Looks like Chambers has signed a 5 year deal with the gunners. costa gaz
  • Score: -1

10:50pm Fri 25 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
saint Gaz45 wrote:
All that has come out of SFC is lies..lies..and more lies...Poch happy with club and ongoing talks..preparing for next season and pre-season...no players are leaving...We are not a selling club...all money from sales will be reinvested back in the 1st team...Lovern is going nowhere..Lallana is not leaving....Luke Shaw is not leaving...oh and there are 22 backroom staff constantly looking at new players and their profiles..so any players that have come or rumoured to come are all through Koeman..so what are those so called 22 staff really doing..nothing that I can see...there wont be a firesale...no what is this then...LIES...LIES..


and more LIES..how can we ever trust the SFC board...I dont thats for sure.
poch told the club he was happy and was preparing for pre-season whilst all the time knowing he wanted out. how have the club lied? they can only have lied if they knew the truth but he didn't tell them!
they never said no players are leaving, look back over the statements. no players will leave without the managers agreement, no players will leave unless its in the best interests of the club. where have they lied? surely getting above market value for players who said they were prepared to go on strike is in the best interests of the club!
how do you know how many people are working away in the background? have you been to the club and counted? NC started this scouting department, as it is now, so was he lying? maybe the scouts have given the manager a list of players to pick from that included the players we re rumoured to be after.
firesale `a sale of goods or assets at a very low price, typically when the seller is facing bankruptcy.` we are selling above market value not at a very low price and we aren't facing bankruptcy. if you want to see a firesale look what happened to poopey in their prem relegation and champ relegation seasons!
I cant tell you to trust the board but I can say that they haven't lied in the manner you have stated!
Agree 100% with de Heiligen paard 101. The fact that you had a -12 rating when I wrote this, shows that there are lot of so-called Saints fans out there who will blindly blame the board for anything and everything. As I keep having to repeat, they are doing great job under very difficult circumstances. Those same fans will quieten down when they see the high quality and exciting team we will turn out against Liverpool with a load of new signings.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint Gaz45[/bold] wrote: All that has come out of SFC is lies..lies..and more lies...Poch happy with club and ongoing talks..preparing for next season and pre-season...no players are leaving...We are not a selling club...all money from sales will be reinvested back in the 1st team...Lovern is going nowhere..Lallana is not leaving....Luke Shaw is not leaving...oh and there are 22 backroom staff constantly looking at new players and their profiles..so any players that have come or rumoured to come are all through Koeman..so what are those so called 22 staff really doing..nothing that I can see...there wont be a firesale...no what is this then...LIES...LIES.. and more LIES..how can we ever trust the SFC board...I dont thats for sure.[/p][/quote]poch told the club he was happy and was preparing for pre-season whilst all the time knowing he wanted out. how have the club lied? they can only have lied if they knew the truth but he didn't tell them! they never said no players are leaving, look back over the statements. no players will leave without the managers agreement, no players will leave unless its in the best interests of the club. where have they lied? surely getting above market value for players who said they were prepared to go on strike is in the best interests of the club! how do you know how many people are working away in the background? have you been to the club and counted? NC started this scouting department, as it is now, so was he lying? maybe the scouts have given the manager a list of players to pick from that included the players we re rumoured to be after. firesale `a sale of goods or assets at a very low price, typically when the seller is facing bankruptcy.` we are selling above market value not at a very low price and we aren't facing bankruptcy. if you want to see a firesale look what happened to poopey in their prem relegation and champ relegation seasons! I cant tell you to trust the board but I can say that they haven't lied in the manner you have stated![/p][/quote]Agree 100% with de Heiligen paard 101. The fact that you had a -12 rating when I wrote this, shows that there are lot of so-called Saints fans out there who will blindly blame the board for anything and everything. As I keep having to repeat, they are doing great job under very difficult circumstances. Those same fans will quieten down when they see the high quality and exciting team we will turn out against Liverpool with a load of new signings. nomorerumours
  • Score: -5

10:51pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Costa my son, yes i have found a possitive in all the players leaving our club!! With the exception of one , they are just a bunch of tw@ts that claimed their loyalty to our club then leaves at the first chance they get. Our captain of last season was working out how he could leave and kissing the badge long before the season ended. I for one am glad he has left our club and as far as i'm concearned anybody that do not want to play for the SAINTS can feck off with him.
We now have to rebuild with players that want to be here and play for THE SAINTS and not the kind of players that have got above their station. MR Clattenburgh looks like he saw through Liarlana long before ANY of us SAINTS fans and i include myself ( a happy clapper as you call me ) and the doom and gloom merchants, no names needed.
The best clubs in the world can not hold onto players THAT WANT TO LEAVE. I agree that L Read has put some of the fans at war with our club but, the season does not start until AUGUST 16th 2014.
We now have a manager that is vastly better, imo , than the one that could be behind all this termile. How many games last season did we have the ball in our pocket for most of the game and still lost ??. Poochy could only play one way and his actual record shows this in percentage of wins to games played
I have only watched 45 minutes of football on my laptop of tonights game and in that time i thought we were more direct than last season. Yes i hear you shouting it was only Bournemouth for feck sake , but when the season starts proper i don't think we will be watching the same players we are now. All you doomy gloomies can THUMBS DOWN ME ALL YOU LIKE . You know what i don't give a feck.

STID ..... whatever league we play in , in 62 years off supporting THE SAINTS , i have been there, done it and got the shirt.
Brilliant!
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Costa my son, yes i have found a possitive in all the players leaving our club!! With the exception of one , they are just a bunch of tw@ts that claimed their loyalty to our club then leaves at the first chance they get. Our captain of last season was working out how he could leave and kissing the badge long before the season ended. I for one am glad he has left our club and as far as i'm concearned anybody that do not want to play for the SAINTS can feck off with him. We now have to rebuild with players that want to be here and play for THE SAINTS and not the kind of players that have got above their station. MR Clattenburgh looks like he saw through Liarlana long before ANY of us SAINTS fans and i include myself ( a happy clapper as you call me ) and the doom and gloom merchants, no names needed. The best clubs in the world can not hold onto players THAT WANT TO LEAVE. I agree that L Read has put some of the fans at war with our club but, the season does not start until AUGUST 16th 2014. We now have a manager that is vastly better, imo , than the one that could be behind all this termile. How many games last season did we have the ball in our pocket for most of the game and still lost ??. Poochy could only play one way and his actual record shows this in percentage of wins to games played I have only watched 45 minutes of football on my laptop of tonights game and in that time i thought we were more direct than last season. Yes i hear you shouting it was only Bournemouth for feck sake , but when the season starts proper i don't think we will be watching the same players we are now. All you doomy gloomies can THUMBS DOWN ME ALL YOU LIKE . You know what i don't give a feck. STID ..... whatever league we play in , in 62 years off supporting THE SAINTS , i have been there, done it and got the shirt.[/p][/quote]Brilliant! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

10:52pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Stupid boy.
He makes a lot more sense than you
Only to a twerp like you though.
Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature
You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?
Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet .

Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ?

Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling

Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them
At the risk of boring everyone else lets take a look at your contribution tonight.
5.02 pm A sarcastic post about the Club.
5.20 pm A post slagging off the Clubs owner.
6.40 pm A second post slagging off and making dubious accusations against the Clubs owner. Plus a dig about RonKo's integrity.
6.50 pm A similar message again slurring RonKo.
7.31 pm A message slurring another poster for posting a positive post.
9.20 pm Slagging off another poster who had criticised a previous poster for making a slur against the Clubs owner.
9.56 pm A post slagging me off for taking you on.
10.22 pm a follow up slagging post accusing me of breaking the rules.

Not a bad nights work for a loyal Saints supporter, not a word about the thread, not a word about a game that was played tonight, and not a positive comment all night, how to make friends and be popular on a discussion site? I think not.
[quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Stupid boy.[/p][/quote]He makes a lot more sense than you[/p][/quote]Only to a twerp like you though.[/p][/quote]Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature[/p][/quote]You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?[/p][/quote]Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet . Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ? Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them[/p][/quote]At the risk of boring everyone else lets take a look at your contribution tonight. 5.02 pm A sarcastic post about the Club. 5.20 pm A post slagging off the Clubs owner. 6.40 pm A second post slagging off and making dubious accusations against the Clubs owner. Plus a dig about RonKo's integrity. 6.50 pm A similar message again slurring RonKo. 7.31 pm A message slurring another poster for posting a positive post. 9.20 pm Slagging off another poster who had criticised a previous poster for making a slur against the Clubs owner. 9.56 pm A post slagging me off for taking you on. 10.22 pm a follow up slagging post accusing me of breaking the rules. Not a bad nights work for a loyal Saints supporter, not a word about the thread, not a word about a game that was played tonight, and not a positive comment all night, how to make friends and be popular on a discussion site? I think not. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

10:53pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

NewForestStu wrote:
Steve_N wrote:
bathsaints wrote:
Was one of our standout players last season. It makes good sense in terms of the fee and we only want players who are committed to the club but what the flip is driving all these players away, surely we have ambition and surely we have a bit of money to pay wages etc so what is it that is driving them away. I hope Big Ron is allowed to splash the cash and 2 good centre backs please...Fonte is a better player alongside a class CB but I wouldn't fancy him and Hoover lining up at anfield in 3 weeks. Come on Les bring in Vlaar and Van Dijk....
I'll tell you what's driving (I would actually use the word luring) players away - astronomical wages which we will not (cannot?) pay and the lure of Champions League Football. OK so Man U are not in the CL this coming season, but does anyone really think they won't be there again in a few seasons, if not the one after next?
I for one do not want to see us paying wages that we cannot sustain and, god forbid, end up like that lot at the dodgy end of the M27.
Like it or not, we cannot compete with Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal - at least not until we have a stadium with a capacity of at least 45000 and are regularly selling out home matches at that level.
I have been supporting Saints for over 40 years and I'd love to see us up there with the big boys but I'm afraid money dictates and whilst we may have taken a lot in transfer fees in the last month, it ain't nothing compared to what the top clubs are able to spend on transfer fees and wages.
Whatever happens I will always support THE SAINTS
STID
To be fair, even if we had a 45,0000 capacity stadium selling out every game it would not make a difference. Money through the turnstiles is so smallfry now it pales into nothing. The amounts Utd earn from plastics buying shirts abroad far outweighs ticket sales. I have travelled many countries such and everywhere there are Utd shirts, posters and billboards etc. Even recently posters of Rooney and Van Persie everywhere. The only thing clubs that can compete are Cheski, City etc and only because their owners are minted and happy to tonk that amount of cash.

Saints will never be able to compete. As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four. Just impresses me all the more how bloxdy well Everton do each year. I would love for them or a similar club to upset the top four.

We were onto a good thing last year yet so far from the top table it is untrue.

I would love to see the day when sky go bust and the whole game goes belly up. Never happen tho
If you believe that "As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four". Why do you direct so much bile at the club and its owner?
[quote][p][bold]NewForestStu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve_N[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: Was one of our standout players last season. It makes good sense in terms of the fee and we only want players who are committed to the club but what the flip is driving all these players away, surely we have ambition and surely we have a bit of money to pay wages etc so what is it that is driving them away. I hope Big Ron is allowed to splash the cash and 2 good centre backs please...Fonte is a better player alongside a class CB but I wouldn't fancy him and Hoover lining up at anfield in 3 weeks. Come on Les bring in Vlaar and Van Dijk....[/p][/quote]I'll tell you what's driving (I would actually use the word luring) players away - astronomical wages which we will not (cannot?) pay and the lure of Champions League Football. OK so Man U are not in the CL this coming season, but does anyone really think they won't be there again in a few seasons, if not the one after next? I for one do not want to see us paying wages that we cannot sustain and, god forbid, end up like that lot at the dodgy end of the M27. Like it or not, we cannot compete with Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal - at least not until we have a stadium with a capacity of at least 45000 and are regularly selling out home matches at that level. I have been supporting Saints for over 40 years and I'd love to see us up there with the big boys but I'm afraid money dictates and whilst we may have taken a lot in transfer fees in the last month, it ain't nothing compared to what the top clubs are able to spend on transfer fees and wages. Whatever happens I will always support THE SAINTS STID[/p][/quote]To be fair, even if we had a 45,0000 capacity stadium selling out every game it would not make a difference. Money through the turnstiles is so smallfry now it pales into nothing. The amounts Utd earn from plastics buying shirts abroad far outweighs ticket sales. I have travelled many countries such and everywhere there are Utd shirts, posters and billboards etc. Even recently posters of Rooney and Van Persie everywhere. The only thing clubs that can compete are Cheski, City etc and only because their owners are minted and happy to tonk that amount of cash. Saints will never be able to compete. As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four. Just impresses me all the more how bloxdy well Everton do each year. I would love for them or a similar club to upset the top four. We were onto a good thing last year yet so far from the top table it is untrue. I would love to see the day when sky go bust and the whole game goes belly up. Never happen tho[/p][/quote]If you believe that "As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four". Why do you direct so much bile at the club and its owner? Rising_Son
  • Score: -1

10:55pm Fri 25 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

costa gaz wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.
The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back.
The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides.

We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs.
It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to.
RUBBISH
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.[/p][/quote]The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back. The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides. We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs. It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to.[/p][/quote]RUBBISH nomorerumours
  • Score: -8

10:55pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Stupid boy.
He makes a lot more sense than you
Only to a twerp like you though.
Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature
You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?
Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet .

Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ?

Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling

Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them
So report me.
Can you guys please remember that we are Saints fans, and are here to discuss the issues surrounding the team, not use this blog as a forum to play out personal issues with each other? It is sad to see the comments section regularly descend into this kind of schoolyard antics. If you are really that offended with each other then maybe you should meet up somewhere and duke it out like men.
I apologise to you Kiwi, but my patience is running out with certain individuals.
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Stupid boy.[/p][/quote]He makes a lot more sense than you[/p][/quote]Only to a twerp like you though.[/p][/quote]Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature[/p][/quote]You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?[/p][/quote]Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet . Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ? Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them[/p][/quote]So report me.[/p][/quote]Can you guys please remember that we are Saints fans, and are here to discuss the issues surrounding the team, not use this blog as a forum to play out personal issues with each other? It is sad to see the comments section regularly descend into this kind of schoolyard antics. If you are really that offended with each other then maybe you should meet up somewhere and duke it out like men.[/p][/quote]I apologise to you Kiwi, but my patience is running out with certain individuals. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

10:56pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Stupid boy.
He makes a lot more sense than you
Only to a twerp like you though.
Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature
You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?
Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet .

Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ?

Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling

Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them
Ah, victimhood, the first resort for a WUM.
[quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Stupid boy.[/p][/quote]He makes a lot more sense than you[/p][/quote]Only to a twerp like you though.[/p][/quote]Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature[/p][/quote]You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?[/p][/quote]Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet . Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ? Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them[/p][/quote]Ah, victimhood, the first resort for a WUM. Rising_Son
  • Score: -3

11:01pm Fri 25 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

Chapperall wrote:
Saints for life wrote:
Just hope all works out and new signings and the youngsters coming through gel and continue the success we've achieved on and off the pitch.
Dream world
Tonight's match proves that the team is "already" gelling under RK. Pelle & Tadic were excellent and we'll have some more new signings in the coming days. Isgrove and Tagett were very impressive too as was Ramirez - we have a lot to look forward to.
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints for life[/bold] wrote: Just hope all works out and new signings and the youngsters coming through gel and continue the success we've achieved on and off the pitch.[/p][/quote]Dream world[/p][/quote]Tonight's match proves that the team is "already" gelling under RK. Pelle & Tadic were excellent and we'll have some more new signings in the coming days. Isgrove and Tagett were very impressive too as was Ramirez - we have a lot to look forward to. nomorerumours
  • Score: -5

11:01pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Dave Brown says...

Well if Mr Reed was currently in charge of Southampton Port Authority there would not be a cruise ship docking in Southampton as Liverpool Docks would have picked up all the cruise business.
Gordon Brown sold all the gold off at a knock down price and I now feel Saints have rolled over and sold quality players at knock down prices.
Why has all of this business been conducted to one club,who has been the main instigator of the exodus to Pool .
We talk about this being good financial business but it will not seem so good if Christmas arrives and we are in the bottom three(I am not predicting that will be the scenario) where will we find players in January to stop the rot should it happen.
On the positive side Ron may have realised what a decent Squad he has on board and can work with and be a breath of fresh air within this league of over bloated players who feel the are worth more than they really are.
Mr Reed leave the communication regarding players to big Ron because at least he told us the truth that he did not wish to work with players who did not want to play for the Saints.
Well if Mr Reed was currently in charge of Southampton Port Authority there would not be a cruise ship docking in Southampton as Liverpool Docks would have picked up all the cruise business. Gordon Brown sold all the gold off at a knock down price and I now feel Saints have rolled over and sold quality players at knock down prices. Why has all of this business been conducted to one club,who has been the main instigator of the exodus to Pool . We talk about this being good financial business but it will not seem so good if Christmas arrives and we are in the bottom three(I am not predicting that will be the scenario) where will we find players in January to stop the rot should it happen. On the positive side Ron may have realised what a decent Squad he has on board and can work with and be a breath of fresh air within this league of over bloated players who feel the are worth more than they really are. Mr Reed leave the communication regarding players to big Ron because at least he told us the truth that he did not wish to work with players who did not want to play for the Saints. Dave Brown
  • Score: 8

11:03pm Fri 25 Jul 14

jasons odd says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Stupid boy.
He makes a lot more sense than you
Only to a twerp like you though.
Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature
You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?
Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet .

Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ?

Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling

Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them
At the risk of boring everyone else lets take a look at your contribution tonight.
5.02 pm A sarcastic post about the Club.
5.20 pm A post slagging off the Clubs owner.
6.40 pm A second post slagging off and making dubious accusations against the Clubs owner. Plus a dig about RonKo's integrity.
6.50 pm A similar message again slurring RonKo.
7.31 pm A message slurring another poster for posting a positive post.
9.20 pm Slagging off another poster who had criticised a previous poster for making a slur against the Clubs owner.
9.56 pm A post slagging me off for taking you on.
10.22 pm a follow up slagging post accusing me of breaking the rules.

Not a bad nights work for a loyal Saints supporter, not a word about the thread, not a word about a game that was played tonight, and not a positive comment all night, how to make friends and be popular on a discussion site? I think not.
Your such a liar , and a troll .

Where did 'question koemans integrity '? , i pointed out facts
What did i 'accuse our owner of '?

I have called no poster or person names , except to point out that you are a troll . I have told no one that they were stupid like you have . I have told no one to 'bugg er off ' like you have ...and more

I give my opinions without insults and childish name calling
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Stupid boy.[/p][/quote]He makes a lot more sense than you[/p][/quote]Only to a twerp like you though.[/p][/quote]Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature[/p][/quote]You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?[/p][/quote]Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet . Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ? Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them[/p][/quote]At the risk of boring everyone else lets take a look at your contribution tonight. 5.02 pm A sarcastic post about the Club. 5.20 pm A post slagging off the Clubs owner. 6.40 pm A second post slagging off and making dubious accusations against the Clubs owner. Plus a dig about RonKo's integrity. 6.50 pm A similar message again slurring RonKo. 7.31 pm A message slurring another poster for posting a positive post. 9.20 pm Slagging off another poster who had criticised a previous poster for making a slur against the Clubs owner. 9.56 pm A post slagging me off for taking you on. 10.22 pm a follow up slagging post accusing me of breaking the rules. Not a bad nights work for a loyal Saints supporter, not a word about the thread, not a word about a game that was played tonight, and not a positive comment all night, how to make friends and be popular on a discussion site? I think not.[/p][/quote]Your such a liar , and a troll . Where did 'question koemans integrity '? , i pointed out facts What did i 'accuse our owner of '? I have called no poster or person names , except to point out that you are a troll . I have told no one that they were stupid like you have . I have told no one to 'bugg er off ' like you have ...and more I give my opinions without insults and childish name calling jasons odd
  • Score: 2

11:04pm Fri 25 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

nomorerumours wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.
The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back.
The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides.

We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs.
It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to.
RUBBISH
All of it , part of it?
If it was the loan, just google it and then come back and have a slice of delicious humble pie.
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.[/p][/quote]The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back. The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides. We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs. It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to.[/p][/quote]RUBBISH[/p][/quote]All of it , part of it? If it was the loan, just google it and then come back and have a slice of delicious humble pie. costa gaz
  • Score: 1

11:05pm Fri 25 Jul 14

one in the crowd says...

Lovren set for medical after Liverpool agree £20m deal for Southampton

Croatian international has been Rodgers' top centre-back target of the summer

Dejan Lovren is set to become the most expensive defender in Liverpool FC's history after they agreed a £20million deal with Southampton.
Reds chief executive Ian Ayre has flown back to the UK from the club's tour of America in order to complete the transfer.
The Croatia international is scheduled to undergo his medical and sort out personal terms in Liverpool on Saturday.
Brendan Rodgers has been pursuing a deal for Lovren all summer with the 25-year-old his number one defensive target.
If everything goes to plan Lovren will link up with the Reds squad in either New York or Charlotte next week.

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Liverpool FC transfer gossip: Reds in for £36.5m Benfica winger, Shaqiri bid mooted, latest on Vidal future

A round-up of the day's LFC transfer rumours

Liverpool FC could be in for £35.6m Benfica winger Nicolas Gaitan, according to the Metro .
The Argentinian winger has a release clause in his contract with the Portugese champions and has impressed while helping Benfica reach successive Europa League finals and also win the Primeira League last season.
Meanwhile Brendan Rodgers is reported to have made a £14.2m bid for Bayern Munich playmaker Xherdan Shaqiri, claims Swiss paper Blick .
The 22-year-old performed well at the World Cup, bagging a hat-trick for Switzerland in the group stages, but struggled for regular game time with the Bundesliga champions last season.
The chances of Arturo Vidal moving to Anfield have receded though with Juventus now expecting to keep hold of the Chile midfielder.
The Express reports that Juventus chief Beppe Marotta thinks it very unlikely the 27-year-old will leave Turin.
He said when asked if he would be surprised if Vidal left: “Absolutely yes. It is a very remote chance, considering what the lad is like, and so I’m not even considering the possibility.
“The situation around him is typical of the transfer market when several big clubs admire him. Vidal exploded in a fairly unexpected way over the last two years to become one of the most important players in the world.
“He is naturally linked to big clubs, but I’ll point out Juventus are a big club too and we intend to hold on tight. I don’t get the sensation he wants to leave us.”
Lovren set for medical after Liverpool agree £20m deal for Southampton Croatian international has been Rodgers' top centre-back target of the summer Dejan Lovren is set to become the most expensive defender in Liverpool FC's history after they agreed a £20million deal with Southampton. Reds chief executive Ian Ayre has flown back to the UK from the club's tour of America in order to complete the transfer. The Croatia international is scheduled to undergo his medical and sort out personal terms in Liverpool on Saturday. Brendan Rodgers has been pursuing a deal for Lovren all summer with the 25-year-old his number one defensive target. If everything goes to plan Lovren will link up with the Reds squad in either New York or Charlotte next week. ------- Liverpool FC transfer gossip: Reds in for £36.5m Benfica winger, Shaqiri bid mooted, latest on Vidal future A round-up of the day's LFC transfer rumours Liverpool FC could be in for £35.6m Benfica winger Nicolas Gaitan, according to the Metro . The Argentinian winger has a release clause in his contract with the Portugese champions and has impressed while helping Benfica reach successive Europa League finals and also win the Primeira League last season. Meanwhile Brendan Rodgers is reported to have made a £14.2m bid for Bayern Munich playmaker Xherdan Shaqiri, claims Swiss paper Blick . The 22-year-old performed well at the World Cup, bagging a hat-trick for Switzerland in the group stages, but struggled for regular game time with the Bundesliga champions last season. The chances of Arturo Vidal moving to Anfield have receded though with Juventus now expecting to keep hold of the Chile midfielder. The Express reports that Juventus chief Beppe Marotta thinks it very unlikely the 27-year-old will leave Turin. He said when asked if he would be surprised if Vidal left: “Absolutely yes. It is a very remote chance, considering what the lad is like, and so I’m not even considering the possibility. “The situation around him is typical of the transfer market when several big clubs admire him. Vidal exploded in a fairly unexpected way over the last two years to become one of the most important players in the world. “He is naturally linked to big clubs, but I’ll point out Juventus are a big club too and we intend to hold on tight. I don’t get the sensation he wants to leave us.” one in the crowd
  • Score: -4

11:08pm Fri 25 Jul 14

bullsbags says...

Some good news at last Lallana injured and will miss the start of the season the bad news is it's not too serious
Some good news at last Lallana injured and will miss the start of the season the bad news is it's not too serious bullsbags
  • Score: 4

11:08pm Fri 25 Jul 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Stupid boy.
He makes a lot more sense than you
Only to a twerp like you though.
Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature
You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?
Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet .

Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ?

Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling

Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them
So report me.
Can you guys please remember that we are Saints fans, and are here to discuss the issues surrounding the team, not use this blog as a forum to play out personal issues with each other? It is sad to see the comments section regularly descend into this kind of schoolyard antics. If you are really that offended with each other then maybe you should meet up somewhere and duke it out like men.
I apologise to you Kiwi, but my patience is running out with certain individuals.
All good mate, sticks and stones :)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Stupid boy.[/p][/quote]He makes a lot more sense than you[/p][/quote]Only to a twerp like you though.[/p][/quote]Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature[/p][/quote]You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?[/p][/quote]Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet . Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ? Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them[/p][/quote]So report me.[/p][/quote]Can you guys please remember that we are Saints fans, and are here to discuss the issues surrounding the team, not use this blog as a forum to play out personal issues with each other? It is sad to see the comments section regularly descend into this kind of schoolyard antics. If you are really that offended with each other then maybe you should meet up somewhere and duke it out like men.[/p][/quote]I apologise to you Kiwi, but my patience is running out with certain individuals.[/p][/quote]All good mate, sticks and stones :) KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 2

11:08pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
Looks like Chambers has signed a 5 year deal with the gunners.
Metro says £7m, gets worse every time you look at it! Another site says £10m rising to £16m. I feel mugged after being told he missed the game tonight through illness. Seems the the neggies are winning 6 - 3 now.
No doubt Spider will be off next. Oh well move on. I predict a run on nappies and incontinence pads.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Looks like Chambers has signed a 5 year deal with the gunners.[/p][/quote]Metro says £7m, gets worse every time you look at it! Another site says £10m rising to £16m. I feel mugged after being told he missed the game tonight through illness. Seems the the neggies are winning 6 - 3 now. No doubt Spider will be off next. Oh well move on. I predict a run on nappies and incontinence pads. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -4

11:09pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

one in the crowd wrote:
Lovren set for medical after Liverpool agree £20m deal for Southampton

Croatian international has been Rodgers' top centre-back target of the summer

Dejan Lovren is set to become the most expensive defender in Liverpool FC's history after they agreed a £20million deal with Southampton.
Reds chief executive Ian Ayre has flown back to the UK from the club's tour of America in order to complete the transfer.
The Croatia international is scheduled to undergo his medical and sort out personal terms in Liverpool on Saturday.
Brendan Rodgers has been pursuing a deal for Lovren all summer with the 25-year-old his number one defensive target.
If everything goes to plan Lovren will link up with the Reds squad in either New York or Charlotte next week.

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Liverpool FC transfer gossip: Reds in for £36.5m Benfica winger, Shaqiri bid mooted, latest on Vidal future

A round-up of the day's LFC transfer rumours

Liverpool FC could be in for £35.6m Benfica winger Nicolas Gaitan, according to the Metro .
The Argentinian winger has a release clause in his contract with the Portugese champions and has impressed while helping Benfica reach successive Europa League finals and also win the Primeira League last season.
Meanwhile Brendan Rodgers is reported to have made a £14.2m bid for Bayern Munich playmaker Xherdan Shaqiri, claims Swiss paper Blick .
The 22-year-old performed well at the World Cup, bagging a hat-trick for Switzerland in the group stages, but struggled for regular game time with the Bundesliga champions last season.
The chances of Arturo Vidal moving to Anfield have receded though with Juventus now expecting to keep hold of the Chile midfielder.
The Express reports that Juventus chief Beppe Marotta thinks it very unlikely the 27-year-old will leave Turin.
He said when asked if he would be surprised if Vidal left: “Absolutely yes. It is a very remote chance, considering what the lad is like, and so I’m not even considering the possibility.
“The situation around him is typical of the transfer market when several big clubs admire him. Vidal exploded in a fairly unexpected way over the last two years to become one of the most important players in the world.
“He is naturally linked to big clubs, but I’ll point out Juventus are a big club too and we intend to hold on tight. I don’t get the sensation he wants to leave us.”
One foot in the grave...of all the threads,in all the world,you had to walk into ours.
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: Lovren set for medical after Liverpool agree £20m deal for Southampton Croatian international has been Rodgers' top centre-back target of the summer Dejan Lovren is set to become the most expensive defender in Liverpool FC's history after they agreed a £20million deal with Southampton. Reds chief executive Ian Ayre has flown back to the UK from the club's tour of America in order to complete the transfer. The Croatia international is scheduled to undergo his medical and sort out personal terms in Liverpool on Saturday. Brendan Rodgers has been pursuing a deal for Lovren all summer with the 25-year-old his number one defensive target. If everything goes to plan Lovren will link up with the Reds squad in either New York or Charlotte next week. ------- Liverpool FC transfer gossip: Reds in for £36.5m Benfica winger, Shaqiri bid mooted, latest on Vidal future A round-up of the day's LFC transfer rumours Liverpool FC could be in for £35.6m Benfica winger Nicolas Gaitan, according to the Metro . The Argentinian winger has a release clause in his contract with the Portugese champions and has impressed while helping Benfica reach successive Europa League finals and also win the Primeira League last season. Meanwhile Brendan Rodgers is reported to have made a £14.2m bid for Bayern Munich playmaker Xherdan Shaqiri, claims Swiss paper Blick . The 22-year-old performed well at the World Cup, bagging a hat-trick for Switzerland in the group stages, but struggled for regular game time with the Bundesliga champions last season. The chances of Arturo Vidal moving to Anfield have receded though with Juventus now expecting to keep hold of the Chile midfielder. The Express reports that Juventus chief Beppe Marotta thinks it very unlikely the 27-year-old will leave Turin. He said when asked if he would be surprised if Vidal left: “Absolutely yes. It is a very remote chance, considering what the lad is like, and so I’m not even considering the possibility. “The situation around him is typical of the transfer market when several big clubs admire him. Vidal exploded in a fairly unexpected way over the last two years to become one of the most important players in the world. “He is naturally linked to big clubs, but I’ll point out Juventus are a big club too and we intend to hold on tight. I don’t get the sensation he wants to leave us.”[/p][/quote]One foot in the grave...of all the threads,in all the world,you had to walk into ours. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

11:10pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

costa gaz wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.
The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back.
The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides.

We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs.
It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to.
RUBBISH
All of it , part of it?
If it was the loan, just google it and then come back and have a slice of delicious humble pie.
Have you eaten so much apple pie that you know what it tastes like?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.[/p][/quote]The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back. The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides. We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs. It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to.[/p][/quote]RUBBISH[/p][/quote]All of it , part of it? If it was the loan, just google it and then come back and have a slice of delicious humble pie.[/p][/quote]Have you eaten so much apple pie that you know what it tastes like? Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

11:10pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.
The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back.
The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides.

We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs.
It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to.
RUBBISH
All of it , part of it?
If it was the loan, just google it and then come back and have a slice of delicious humble pie.
Have you eaten so much apple pie that you know what it tastes like?
Bloody typo! Just when you don't need it.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.[/p][/quote]The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back. The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides. We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs. It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to.[/p][/quote]RUBBISH[/p][/quote]All of it , part of it? If it was the loan, just google it and then come back and have a slice of delicious humble pie.[/p][/quote]Have you eaten so much apple pie that you know what it tastes like?[/p][/quote]Bloody typo! Just when you don't need it. Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

11:11pm Fri 25 Jul 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

bullsbags wrote:
Some good news at last Lallana injured and will miss the start of the season the bad news is it's not too serious
Nice to see karma getting in there
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: Some good news at last Lallana injured and will miss the start of the season the bad news is it's not too serious[/p][/quote]Nice to see karma getting in there KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 1

11:12pm Fri 25 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

pintsizedsaint wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer.
More to follow next week.

Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren?
A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good.


Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best.
Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week.

101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months.
:-(
Let's see what happens at the end of the season. If we're relegated then you're right. If we do well (top ten finish) then I hope people come onto this site and have the grace to admit they were wrong.

Yes it's tough, but Lovren and AL didn't want to stay. They are replaceable. Any football player is replaceable. We've covered AL and SRL already. We already have players at Saints ready to replace Shaw. Hell - even if Spider-Man left we have Cork!

Don't get me wrong I too would have preferred them to stay. But they didn't. We got top dollar for all of them which will be put back into the club. You can either trust the new management and get behind the players or spend your time writing doom and gloom on sites like this. I know which one I prefer!
100% agree with pintsizedsaint and 100% disagree with costa gaz. We will have some great new signings and probably one really big player. Still 5 weeks to go and I'm satisfied that RK and the board are working flat out on incoming transfers.
[quote][p][bold]pintsizedsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer. More to follow next week. Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren? A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good. Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best. Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week. 101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months. :-([/p][/quote]Let's see what happens at the end of the season. If we're relegated then you're right. If we do well (top ten finish) then I hope people come onto this site and have the grace to admit they were wrong. Yes it's tough, but Lovren and AL didn't want to stay. They are replaceable. Any football player is replaceable. We've covered AL and SRL already. We already have players at Saints ready to replace Shaw. Hell - even if Spider-Man left we have Cork! Don't get me wrong I too would have preferred them to stay. But they didn't. We got top dollar for all of them which will be put back into the club. You can either trust the new management and get behind the players or spend your time writing doom and gloom on sites like this. I know which one I prefer![/p][/quote]100% agree with pintsizedsaint and 100% disagree with costa gaz. We will have some great new signings and probably one really big player. Still 5 weeks to go and I'm satisfied that RK and the board are working flat out on incoming transfers. nomorerumours
  • Score: -8

11:12pm Fri 25 Jul 14

oldsaintsfan says...

A lot of quality is currently leaving the club and.it seems also quite possible that we may lose a few more before the window closes. The optimist in me continues to hope for good news with regard to some quality signings. However it also seems quite possible that we may lose a few more before the window closes. The pessimist in me is grateful that ML (as I understand it) converted much of his personnel loans to the club into equity before his untimely death.
A lot of quality is currently leaving the club and.it seems also quite possible that we may lose a few more before the window closes. The optimist in me continues to hope for good news with regard to some quality signings. However it also seems quite possible that we may lose a few more before the window closes. The pessimist in me is grateful that ML (as I understand it) converted much of his personnel loans to the club into equity before his untimely death. oldsaintsfan
  • Score: 9

11:18pm Fri 25 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.
The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back.
The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides.

We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs.
It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to.
RUBBISH
All of it , part of it?
If it was the loan, just google it and then come back and have a slice of delicious humble pie.
Have you eaten so much apple pie that you know what it tastes like?
Bloody typo! Just when you don't need it.
http://www.bbc.com/s
port/0/football/1754
7804
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.[/p][/quote]The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back. The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides. We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs. It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to.[/p][/quote]RUBBISH[/p][/quote]All of it , part of it? If it was the loan, just google it and then come back and have a slice of delicious humble pie.[/p][/quote]Have you eaten so much apple pie that you know what it tastes like?[/p][/quote]Bloody typo! Just when you don't need it.[/p][/quote]http://www.bbc.com/s port/0/football/1754 7804 costa gaz
  • Score: 1

11:22pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Stupid boy.
He makes a lot more sense than you
Only to a twerp like you though.
Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature
You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?
Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet .

Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ?

Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling

Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them
So report me.
Can you guys please remember that we are Saints fans, and are here to discuss the issues surrounding the team, not use this blog as a forum to play out personal issues with each other? It is sad to see the comments section regularly descend into this kind of schoolyard antics. If you are really that offended with each other then maybe you should meet up somewhere and duke it out like men.
I apologise to you Kiwi, but my patience is running out with certain individuals.
All good mate, sticks and stones :)
Trouble is after the latest bombshell, some of what the neggies said is starting to come true. What is happening to our Club? What have we done to deserve this kind of treatment? I am convinced it will turn around and come good, but right now I am seriously concerned.
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Stupid boy.[/p][/quote]He makes a lot more sense than you[/p][/quote]Only to a twerp like you though.[/p][/quote]Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature[/p][/quote]You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?[/p][/quote]Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet . Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ? Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them[/p][/quote]So report me.[/p][/quote]Can you guys please remember that we are Saints fans, and are here to discuss the issues surrounding the team, not use this blog as a forum to play out personal issues with each other? It is sad to see the comments section regularly descend into this kind of schoolyard antics. If you are really that offended with each other then maybe you should meet up somewhere and duke it out like men.[/p][/quote]I apologise to you Kiwi, but my patience is running out with certain individuals.[/p][/quote]All good mate, sticks and stones :)[/p][/quote]Trouble is after the latest bombshell, some of what the neggies said is starting to come true. What is happening to our Club? What have we done to deserve this kind of treatment? I am convinced it will turn around and come good, but right now I am seriously concerned. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -5

11:23pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

costa gaz wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.
The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back.
The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides.

We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs.
It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to.
RUBBISH
All of it , part of it?
If it was the loan, just google it and then come back and have a slice of delicious humble pie.
Have you eaten so much apple pie that you know what it tastes like?
Bloody typo! Just when you don't need it.
http://www.bbc.com/s

port/0/football/1754

7804
Yes, I know that.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.[/p][/quote]The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back. The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides. We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs. It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to.[/p][/quote]RUBBISH[/p][/quote]All of it , part of it? If it was the loan, just google it and then come back and have a slice of delicious humble pie.[/p][/quote]Have you eaten so much apple pie that you know what it tastes like?[/p][/quote]Bloody typo! Just when you don't need it.[/p][/quote]http://www.bbc.com/s port/0/football/1754 7804[/p][/quote]Yes, I know that. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

11:25pm Fri 25 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

long memory wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
I expect football clubs the length and breadth of Europe are following these pages in the hope of tapping up one of you miserable sods as their next manager. You're all clearly so much more knowledgeable and experienced than what they have, and with the added bonus that you're all psychic and know exactly what the current manager, owner and board are thinking.
I bet some of you were among the tw@ts screaming "I hope we get relegated" the day NA got sacked.
To borrow from the Nike campaign from a few World Cups ago: "Armchair football manager. Easiest job in the world".
IOC,100% in agreement,well said for standing out in the crowd of the miserable negative supporters.
I feel at the moment we must have the most negative whinging supporters in the country,and I hope RK doesn't read the drivel these so called fans are spouting,if he does read it wouldn't be surprised if he is the next one to leave.
I for one have total trust,and it is a pity some of you have no backbone.
I have been a supporter for 56 years,through good and bad,and never will I capitulate when things don't go as I wish they should.Never been so angry with some of the lily livered instant gratification,headle

ss chickens, so called fans we have coming on this site,grow a pair will you. In Rk staff,,board and players,I have total trust and belief.
GREAT POST - 100% AGREE. I'VE BEEN A SAINTS SUPPORTER FOR 51 YEARS. THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS ARE QUITE EXTRAORDINARY AND SHAMEFUL. I THINK THAT RK IS IN FOR THE LONG HAUL AND WILL IGNORE ALL THE UNJUSTIFIED EVIL POSTS. HE WILL SHUT THEM UP WHEN WE START GETTING SOME GOOD RESULTS VERY QUICKLY.
[quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: I expect football clubs the length and breadth of Europe are following these pages in the hope of tapping up one of you miserable sods as their next manager. You're all clearly so much more knowledgeable and experienced than what they have, and with the added bonus that you're all psychic and know exactly what the current manager, owner and board are thinking. I bet some of you were among the tw@ts screaming "I hope we get relegated" the day NA got sacked. To borrow from the Nike campaign from a few World Cups ago: "Armchair football manager. Easiest job in the world".[/p][/quote]IOC,100% in agreement,well said for standing out in the crowd of the miserable negative supporters. I feel at the moment we must have the most negative whinging supporters in the country,and I hope RK doesn't read the drivel these so called fans are spouting,if he does read it wouldn't be surprised if he is the next one to leave. I for one have total trust,and it is a pity some of you have no backbone. I have been a supporter for 56 years,through good and bad,and never will I capitulate when things don't go as I wish they should.Never been so angry with some of the lily livered instant gratification,headle ss chickens, so called fans we have coming on this site,grow a pair will you. In Rk staff,,board and players,I have total trust and belief.[/p][/quote]GREAT POST - 100% AGREE. I'VE BEEN A SAINTS SUPPORTER FOR 51 YEARS. THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS ARE QUITE EXTRAORDINARY AND SHAMEFUL. I THINK THAT RK IS IN FOR THE LONG HAUL AND WILL IGNORE ALL THE UNJUSTIFIED EVIL POSTS. HE WILL SHUT THEM UP WHEN WE START GETTING SOME GOOD RESULTS VERY QUICKLY. nomorerumours
  • Score: -7

11:27pm Fri 25 Jul 14

one in the crowd says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
Lovren set for medical after Liverpool agree £20m deal for Southampton

Croatian international has been Rodgers' top centre-back target of the summer

Dejan Lovren is set to become the most expensive defender in Liverpool FC's history after they agreed a £20million deal with Southampton.
Reds chief executive Ian Ayre has flown back to the UK from the club's tour of America in order to complete the transfer.
The Croatia international is scheduled to undergo his medical and sort out personal terms in Liverpool on Saturday.
Brendan Rodgers has been pursuing a deal for Lovren all summer with the 25-year-old his number one defensive target.
If everything goes to plan Lovren will link up with the Reds squad in either New York or Charlotte next week.

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Liverpool FC transfer gossip: Reds in for £36.5m Benfica winger, Shaqiri bid mooted, latest on Vidal future

A round-up of the day's LFC transfer rumours

Liverpool FC could be in for £35.6m Benfica winger Nicolas Gaitan, according to the Metro .
The Argentinian winger has a release clause in his contract with the Portugese champions and has impressed while helping Benfica reach successive Europa League finals and also win the Primeira League last season.
Meanwhile Brendan Rodgers is reported to have made a £14.2m bid for Bayern Munich playmaker Xherdan Shaqiri, claims Swiss paper Blick .
The 22-year-old performed well at the World Cup, bagging a hat-trick for Switzerland in the group stages, but struggled for regular game time with the Bundesliga champions last season.
The chances of Arturo Vidal moving to Anfield have receded though with Juventus now expecting to keep hold of the Chile midfielder.
The Express reports that Juventus chief Beppe Marotta thinks it very unlikely the 27-year-old will leave Turin.
He said when asked if he would be surprised if Vidal left: “Absolutely yes. It is a very remote chance, considering what the lad is like, and so I’m not even considering the possibility.
“The situation around him is typical of the transfer market when several big clubs admire him. Vidal exploded in a fairly unexpected way over the last two years to become one of the most important players in the world.
“He is naturally linked to big clubs, but I’ll point out Juventus are a big club too and we intend to hold on tight. I don’t get the sensation he wants to leave us.”
One foot in the grave...of all the threads,in all the world,you had to walk into ours.
If you where to take in what I said about what is happening at Saint's, you must surely see that fans who were asked to renew season tickets early have been taken for a ride by a management that is keeping them completely in the dark.

One doesn't need to be a genius to work out that there is something seriously wrong within the administration of Saint's, I don't know of any other club that has had the kind of trouble Saint's have had between it's star players and management, after Saint's have had one of their best ever seasons.

It isn't fair to put all the blame on Liverpool, they are only securing their own future ambitions and success as a football club, something that sadly Saint's management seems to ignore for it's own fans. Believe me something is very wrong behind the scenes at your club, and in time the truth might emerge.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: Lovren set for medical after Liverpool agree £20m deal for Southampton Croatian international has been Rodgers' top centre-back target of the summer Dejan Lovren is set to become the most expensive defender in Liverpool FC's history after they agreed a £20million deal with Southampton. Reds chief executive Ian Ayre has flown back to the UK from the club's tour of America in order to complete the transfer. The Croatia international is scheduled to undergo his medical and sort out personal terms in Liverpool on Saturday. Brendan Rodgers has been pursuing a deal for Lovren all summer with the 25-year-old his number one defensive target. If everything goes to plan Lovren will link up with the Reds squad in either New York or Charlotte next week. ------- Liverpool FC transfer gossip: Reds in for £36.5m Benfica winger, Shaqiri bid mooted, latest on Vidal future A round-up of the day's LFC transfer rumours Liverpool FC could be in for £35.6m Benfica winger Nicolas Gaitan, according to the Metro . The Argentinian winger has a release clause in his contract with the Portugese champions and has impressed while helping Benfica reach successive Europa League finals and also win the Primeira League last season. Meanwhile Brendan Rodgers is reported to have made a £14.2m bid for Bayern Munich playmaker Xherdan Shaqiri, claims Swiss paper Blick . The 22-year-old performed well at the World Cup, bagging a hat-trick for Switzerland in the group stages, but struggled for regular game time with the Bundesliga champions last season. The chances of Arturo Vidal moving to Anfield have receded though with Juventus now expecting to keep hold of the Chile midfielder. The Express reports that Juventus chief Beppe Marotta thinks it very unlikely the 27-year-old will leave Turin. He said when asked if he would be surprised if Vidal left: “Absolutely yes. It is a very remote chance, considering what the lad is like, and so I’m not even considering the possibility. “The situation around him is typical of the transfer market when several big clubs admire him. Vidal exploded in a fairly unexpected way over the last two years to become one of the most important players in the world. “He is naturally linked to big clubs, but I’ll point out Juventus are a big club too and we intend to hold on tight. I don’t get the sensation he wants to leave us.”[/p][/quote]One foot in the grave...of all the threads,in all the world,you had to walk into ours.[/p][/quote]If you where to take in what I said about what is happening at Saint's, you must surely see that fans who were asked to renew season tickets early have been taken for a ride by a management that is keeping them completely in the dark. One doesn't need to be a genius to work out that there is something seriously wrong within the administration of Saint's, I don't know of any other club that has had the kind of trouble Saint's have had between it's star players and management, after Saint's have had one of their best ever seasons. It isn't fair to put all the blame on Liverpool, they are only securing their own future ambitions and success as a football club, something that sadly Saint's management seems to ignore for it's own fans. Believe me something is very wrong behind the scenes at your club, and in time the truth might emerge. one in the crowd
  • Score: -2

11:32pm Fri 25 Jul 14

montecristosaint says...

Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I have to take issue with this idea that Liebherr has invested massively in this club. She hasnt. Arguably most of the investment was made by her father, or provided for by him, and I refer to the training facilities in particular. She has no interest in the club, never did and that is why Cortese left. Time for Saints fans to wake up smell the coffee and realize the damage being done to the club. I personally will never forgive her, and I suspect there are thousands who feel the same way. The question is will she have the gall to show her face at St Marys at our first home game?? it would be a bald faced cheek if she did frankly. Time for her to sell the club, she is not wanted here any longer.
[quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I have to take issue with this idea that Liebherr has invested massively in this club. She hasnt. Arguably most of the investment was made by her father, or provided for by him, and I refer to the training facilities in particular. She has no interest in the club, never did and that is why Cortese left. Time for Saints fans to wake up smell the coffee and realize the damage being done to the club. I personally will never forgive her, and I suspect there are thousands who feel the same way. The question is will she have the gall to show her face at St Marys at our first home game?? it would be a bald faced cheek if she did frankly. Time for her to sell the club, she is not wanted here any longer. montecristosaint
  • Score: 10

11:37pm Fri 25 Jul 14

arthur boutfaith says...

jls217 wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
jls217 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer.
More to follow next week.

Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren?
A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good.


Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best.
Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week.

101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months.
:-(
Disagree - If we have someone who doesn't want to put his heart into the club then we are better off without him and giving the shirt to someone who wants to grab the chance to prove himself. Lovren didn't cost 20m did he? We made him worth that money and now we reap the reward and another viper is moved on to be replaced by another 8m player eager to fill his boots even if only for a couple of season before he too moves on. This is what Saints have always done and will probably continue to do. Any ferking idjit can be miserable mate. It takes a bit of gumption to be in cesspit and find the happiness therein. It's all about choices and the situation is getting better by the week.
Ha, ha, that's funny - slag off people for being negative and then compare the club to a cesspit. Hilarious. As for the situation getting better by the week that's just pure fantasy.

It may get better by the week, but it sure ain't happening yet.

Now, a sensible, realistic and non negative news flash: before the weekend is out you will start hearing speculation suggesting one or more of the following: Spider asking for a transfer/clubs stepping up their interest/us considering replacements in case he leaves but not before/us rejecting a bid (we accept about a week later).

Thank goodness J-Rod is injured or he'd be the subject of intense speculation, and rightly so.

But yes, I will support the Saints 100%, I will be excited and hopeful that we can somehow defy expectations and have a comfortable, exciting season.
Not the club mate the situation the club has been tossed into. Don't try to second guess (it can make one look very silly indeed) just ask if you're confused in any way.
Not slagging people off for being merely negative - once again just ask. For being freaking dumb, stupid and not thinking of what the alternative meaning to any statement before launching on an over-emotional chav like diatribe of illogical nonsense - well, let's say I would like to think I'm asking them to take perspective if they are capable of doing so, in the vernacular on second thoughts I might just be slagging them off. As for the newsflash - no great drama there, I wouldn't like to see Spyder go or JRod when the opportunity arises for him. I would like to put all but Liarllana back in red and white stripes for the coming season but it can't happen and if Spyder asks for a transfer then he has to go the way of the rest of them if we can't afford his talents, and his locker will be taken by his replacement and the whole cycle starts again. The only constant will be the likes of you and me with our arses on a bench in the middle of February thinking we could have put the money for the ticket to better use but knowing we'll be back in the same old seat as soon as we can.Life as a Saints fan is never dull - a veritable roller coaster ride. All cesspits are equal but some are more equal than others.
Great post
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: So that's our best defender gone, the best left back we've ever had, our best midfielder and our top scorer. More to follow next week. Q; How do replace someone as good as Lovren? A; You spend £20m on someone who has proven to be just as good. Will saints do that? No they will spend around £5m and hope for the best. Yes I am full of doom, but one by one even the the happiest of happy clappers must be beginning to realise that our side, which should have been improved from last season is in fact deteriorating week by week. 101, HE Bob, osprey etc ..even you lot would find it difficult to find a positive out of what has happened in the last 2 months. :-([/p][/quote]Disagree - If we have someone who doesn't want to put his heart into the club then we are better off without him and giving the shirt to someone who wants to grab the chance to prove himself. Lovren didn't cost 20m did he? We made him worth that money and now we reap the reward and another viper is moved on to be replaced by another 8m player eager to fill his boots even if only for a couple of season before he too moves on. This is what Saints have always done and will probably continue to do. Any ferking idjit can be miserable mate. It takes a bit of gumption to be in cesspit and find the happiness therein. It's all about choices and the situation is getting better by the week.[/p][/quote]Ha, ha, that's funny - slag off people for being negative and then compare the club to a cesspit. Hilarious. As for the situation getting better by the week that's just pure fantasy. It may get better by the week, but it sure ain't happening yet. Now, a sensible, realistic and non negative news flash: before the weekend is out you will start hearing speculation suggesting one or more of the following: Spider asking for a transfer/clubs stepping up their interest/us considering replacements in case he leaves but not before/us rejecting a bid (we accept about a week later). Thank goodness J-Rod is injured or he'd be the subject of intense speculation, and rightly so. But yes, I will support the Saints 100%, I will be excited and hopeful that we can somehow defy expectations and have a comfortable, exciting season.[/p][/quote]Not the club mate the situation the club has been tossed into. Don't try to second guess (it can make one look very silly indeed) just ask if you're confused in any way. Not slagging people off for being merely negative - once again just ask. For being freaking dumb, stupid and not thinking of what the alternative meaning to any statement before launching on an over-emotional chav like diatribe of illogical nonsense - well, let's say I would like to think I'm asking them to take perspective if they are capable of doing so, in the vernacular on second thoughts I might just be slagging them off. As for the newsflash - no great drama there, I wouldn't like to see Spyder go or JRod when the opportunity arises for him. I would like to put all but Liarllana back in red and white stripes for the coming season but it can't happen and if Spyder asks for a transfer then he has to go the way of the rest of them if we can't afford his talents, and his locker will be taken by his replacement and the whole cycle starts again. The only constant will be the likes of you and me with our arses on a bench in the middle of February thinking we could have put the money for the ticket to better use but knowing we'll be back in the same old seat as soon as we can.Life as a Saints fan is never dull - a veritable roller coaster ride. All cesspits are equal but some are more equal than others.[/p][/quote]Great post arthur boutfaith
  • Score: -9

11:37pm Fri 25 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

Malcombe wrote:
jason odd

Have you had your head in the Sand since January this year? If you have I'll update you regarding Southampton Players. I would like to inform you that Rickie Lambert who is a fantastic Player was transferred to Liverpool for £5million possibly as bait for others to join him, in Football he could be in his twilight years but for Rickie it was a dream come true, he's been very honest and got his wish that he's had since a child to play for Liverpool and for that he has the Southampton Supporters best wishes and he will be missed, Adam Lallana was seduced possibly with more money and help from his Agent and Steven Gerrard who could of had instructions from Brendan Rodgers this we'll never know, he too wanted to leave his excuse he wanted CLF so he didn't want to play for Southampton again, he's probably increased his Salary by 2/3rds and sold for a very good fee of £26million, Luke Shaw was also seduced with the thought of increasing his monthly Salary by 4/5th he was sold for £27million and did not want to play for Southampton FC again, Dejan Lovren has now been sold for £20 million, he made it very obvious by saying the song of Gerry Marsden singing gave him goose bumps and his head was already in Liverpool, goodness knows where the rest of his body was, he too had no intentions of wanting to stay and play for Southampton FC.

Imagine your are Les Reed and you probably knew these Players wanted to leave early this year and you've had to sit down with these definitely want away don't want to play for Southampton again Players how would you handle this problem, would you lock them in a room or Barn until they scream ok I'll stay and play for Southampton I'm sorry I won't complain again ? They did not want to stay and play for Southampton ever again is that clear to you because it is to thousands of the Supporters? Not one Supporter wanted any of these Players to leave, it's been a horrible few months, the Team was the best it's ever been and the thought of progress continuing on next season was even more exciting but they were being Coached by a very dishonest man Potchettino not that any of us suspected this, IMO he Coached and Managed this year under total false pretences, it's fair to say he introduced a style of play that had admiration from Football Fans all over the world but this year he proved to be disloyal and a liar, his head wasn't in Southampton it was to a rival Premiership Club and it also coincided with the exodus of Players, did he have an influence and encouraged the Players to leave Southampton? We all hope it's the end of Players leaving but it possibly hasn't stopped yet, Morgan Schneiderlin and the very latest news Callum Chambers could be going to Arsenal another horrible moment for the Supporters, Les Reed has been castigated this year but IOM he would tread over hot coals to keep all these Players at Southampton but the Players know the way to manipulate the Club and disrespect and ignore any contract they sign.

Les Reed has a thankless task and IMO knew the Players wanted out but could not reveal the truth he instead has to be diplomatic to all the Supporters he has to choose his words, he probably would love to be transparent but it's not always wise as it could cause disruption to soon to a Club who's Players are playing the best the have ever played and there valuation could drop dramatically when hell breaks out.
The essence of this post is don't blame Les and the Board blame the Players who wanted out because a seed was sown possibly by Potchettino and they were all motivated by him and loyalty is just a word but money money money has a desired affect.
Now is the time to be positive and move on and give 100% support love and trust to Southampton Football Club The Saints.
Great post. I have been trying to ay the same thing. It is one thing having an honest debate about our club's position and its future but is quite another to be swamped by appalling, rude and totally unjustified negative comments. The attacks on our board have got to stop. They are doing great job and I look forward to another successful season under our brilliant new manager and exciting new players blended with the best of the rest and new academy players.
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: jason odd Have you had your head in the Sand since January this year? If you have I'll update you regarding Southampton Players. I would like to inform you that Rickie Lambert who is a fantastic Player was transferred to Liverpool for £5million possibly as bait for others to join him, in Football he could be in his twilight years but for Rickie it was a dream come true, he's been very honest and got his wish that he's had since a child to play for Liverpool and for that he has the Southampton Supporters best wishes and he will be missed, Adam Lallana was seduced possibly with more money and help from his Agent and Steven Gerrard who could of had instructions from Brendan Rodgers this we'll never know, he too wanted to leave his excuse he wanted CLF so he didn't want to play for Southampton again, he's probably increased his Salary by 2/3rds and sold for a very good fee of £26million, Luke Shaw was also seduced with the thought of increasing his monthly Salary by 4/5th he was sold for £27million and did not want to play for Southampton FC again, Dejan Lovren has now been sold for £20 million, he made it very obvious by saying the song of Gerry Marsden singing gave him goose bumps and his head was already in Liverpool, goodness knows where the rest of his body was, he too had no intentions of wanting to stay and play for Southampton FC. Imagine your are Les Reed and you probably knew these Players wanted to leave early this year and you've had to sit down with these definitely want away don't want to play for Southampton again Players how would you handle this problem, would you lock them in a room or Barn until they scream ok I'll stay and play for Southampton I'm sorry I won't complain again ? They did not want to stay and play for Southampton ever again is that clear to you because it is to thousands of the Supporters? Not one Supporter wanted any of these Players to leave, it's been a horrible few months, the Team was the best it's ever been and the thought of progress continuing on next season was even more exciting but they were being Coached by a very dishonest man Potchettino not that any of us suspected this, IMO he Coached and Managed this year under total false pretences, it's fair to say he introduced a style of play that had admiration from Football Fans all over the world but this year he proved to be disloyal and a liar, his head wasn't in Southampton it was to a rival Premiership Club and it also coincided with the exodus of Players, did he have an influence and encouraged the Players to leave Southampton? We all hope it's the end of Players leaving but it possibly hasn't stopped yet, Morgan Schneiderlin and the very latest news Callum Chambers could be going to Arsenal another horrible moment for the Supporters, Les Reed has been castigated this year but IOM he would tread over hot coals to keep all these Players at Southampton but the Players know the way to manipulate the Club and disrespect and ignore any contract they sign. Les Reed has a thankless task and IMO knew the Players wanted out but could not reveal the truth he instead has to be diplomatic to all the Supporters he has to choose his words, he probably would love to be transparent but it's not always wise as it could cause disruption to soon to a Club who's Players are playing the best the have ever played and there valuation could drop dramatically when hell breaks out. The essence of this post is don't blame Les and the Board blame the Players who wanted out because a seed was sown possibly by Potchettino and they were all motivated by him and loyalty is just a word but money money money has a desired affect. Now is the time to be positive and move on and give 100% support love and trust to Southampton Football Club The Saints.[/p][/quote]Great post. I have been trying to ay the same thing. It is one thing having an honest debate about our club's position and its future but is quite another to be swamped by appalling, rude and totally unjustified negative comments. The attacks on our board have got to stop. They are doing great job and I look forward to another successful season under our brilliant new manager and exciting new players blended with the best of the rest and new academy players. nomorerumours
  • Score: -9

11:39pm Fri 25 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Has he gone yet?
Has he gone yet? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

11:41pm Fri 25 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

jasons odd wrote:
Malcombe wrote:
jason odd

Have you had your head in the Sand since January this year? If you have I'll update you regarding Southampton Players. I would like to inform you that Rickie Lambert who is a fantastic Player was transferred to Liverpool for £5million possibly as bait for others to join him, in Football he could be in his twilight years but for Rickie it was a dream come true, he's been very honest and got his wish that he's had since a child to play for Liverpool and for that he has the Southampton Supporters best wishes and he will be missed, Adam Lallana was seduced possibly with more money and help from his Agent and Steven Gerrard who could of had instructions from Brendan Rodgers this we'll never know, he too wanted to leave his excuse he wanted CLF so he didn't want to play for Southampton again, he's probably increased his Salary by 2/3rds and sold for a very good fee of £26million, Luke Shaw was also seduced with the thought of increasing his monthly Salary by 4/5th he was sold for £27million and did not want to play for Southampton FC again, Dejan Lovren has now been sold for £20 million, he made it very obvious by saying the song of Gerry Marsden singing gave him goose bumps and his head was already in Liverpool, goodness knows where the rest of his body was, he too had no intentions of wanting to stay and play for Southampton FC.

Imagine your are Les Reed and you probably knew these Players wanted to leave early this year and you've had to sit down with these definitely want away don't want to play for Southampton again Players how would you handle this problem, would you lock them in a room or Barn until they scream ok I'll stay and play for Southampton I'm sorry I won't complain again ? They did not want to stay and play for Southampton ever again is that clear to you because it is to thousands of the Supporters? Not one Supporter wanted any of these Players to leave, it's been a horrible few months, the Team was the best it's ever been and the thought of progress continuing on next season was even more exciting but they were being Coached by a very dishonest man Potchettino not that any of us suspected this, IMO he Coached and Managed this year under total false pretences, it's fair to say he introduced a style of play that had admiration from Football Fans all over the world but this year he proved to be disloyal and a liar, his head wasn't in Southampton it was to a rival Premiership Club and it also coincided with the exodus of Players, did he have an influence and encouraged the Players to leave Southampton? We all hope it's the end of Players leaving but it possibly hasn't stopped yet, Morgan Schneiderlin and the very latest news Callum Chambers could be going to Arsenal another horrible moment for the Supporters, Les Reed has been castigated this year but IOM he would tread over hot coals to keep all these Players at Southampton but the Players know the way to manipulate the Club and disrespect and ignore any contract they sign.

Les Reed has a thankless task and IMO knew the Players wanted out but could not reveal the truth he instead has to be diplomatic to all the Supporters he has to choose his words, he probably would love to be transparent but it's not always wise as it could cause disruption to soon to a Club who's Players are playing the best the have ever played and there valuation could drop dramatically when hell breaks out.
The essence of this post is don't blame Les and the Board blame the Players who wanted out because a seed was sown possibly by Potchettino and they were all motivated by him and loyalty is just a word but money money money has a desired affect.
Now is the time to be positive and move on and give 100% support love and trust to Southampton Football Club The Saints.
Deluded
Jasons odd - you should be totally ashamed of yourself How dare you be so rude. I'm fed up with your totally unjustified attacks on our board.
[quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: jason odd Have you had your head in the Sand since January this year? If you have I'll update you regarding Southampton Players. I would like to inform you that Rickie Lambert who is a fantastic Player was transferred to Liverpool for £5million possibly as bait for others to join him, in Football he could be in his twilight years but for Rickie it was a dream come true, he's been very honest and got his wish that he's had since a child to play for Liverpool and for that he has the Southampton Supporters best wishes and he will be missed, Adam Lallana was seduced possibly with more money and help from his Agent and Steven Gerrard who could of had instructions from Brendan Rodgers this we'll never know, he too wanted to leave his excuse he wanted CLF so he didn't want to play for Southampton again, he's probably increased his Salary by 2/3rds and sold for a very good fee of £26million, Luke Shaw was also seduced with the thought of increasing his monthly Salary by 4/5th he was sold for £27million and did not want to play for Southampton FC again, Dejan Lovren has now been sold for £20 million, he made it very obvious by saying the song of Gerry Marsden singing gave him goose bumps and his head was already in Liverpool, goodness knows where the rest of his body was, he too had no intentions of wanting to stay and play for Southampton FC. Imagine your are Les Reed and you probably knew these Players wanted to leave early this year and you've had to sit down with these definitely want away don't want to play for Southampton again Players how would you handle this problem, would you lock them in a room or Barn until they scream ok I'll stay and play for Southampton I'm sorry I won't complain again ? They did not want to stay and play for Southampton ever again is that clear to you because it is to thousands of the Supporters? Not one Supporter wanted any of these Players to leave, it's been a horrible few months, the Team was the best it's ever been and the thought of progress continuing on next season was even more exciting but they were being Coached by a very dishonest man Potchettino not that any of us suspected this, IMO he Coached and Managed this year under total false pretences, it's fair to say he introduced a style of play that had admiration from Football Fans all over the world but this year he proved to be disloyal and a liar, his head wasn't in Southampton it was to a rival Premiership Club and it also coincided with the exodus of Players, did he have an influence and encouraged the Players to leave Southampton? We all hope it's the end of Players leaving but it possibly hasn't stopped yet, Morgan Schneiderlin and the very latest news Callum Chambers could be going to Arsenal another horrible moment for the Supporters, Les Reed has been castigated this year but IOM he would tread over hot coals to keep all these Players at Southampton but the Players know the way to manipulate the Club and disrespect and ignore any contract they sign. Les Reed has a thankless task and IMO knew the Players wanted out but could not reveal the truth he instead has to be diplomatic to all the Supporters he has to choose his words, he probably would love to be transparent but it's not always wise as it could cause disruption to soon to a Club who's Players are playing the best the have ever played and there valuation could drop dramatically when hell breaks out. The essence of this post is don't blame Les and the Board blame the Players who wanted out because a seed was sown possibly by Potchettino and they were all motivated by him and loyalty is just a word but money money money has a desired affect. Now is the time to be positive and move on and give 100% support love and trust to Southampton Football Club The Saints.[/p][/quote]Deluded[/p][/quote]Jasons odd - you should be totally ashamed of yourself How dare you be so rude. I'm fed up with your totally unjustified attacks on our board. nomorerumours
  • Score: -12

11:44pm Fri 25 Jul 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
KiwiSaint74 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Stupid boy.
He makes a lot more sense than you
Only to a twerp like you though.
Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature
You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?
Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet .

Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ?

Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling

Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them
So report me.
Can you guys please remember that we are Saints fans, and are here to discuss the issues surrounding the team, not use this blog as a forum to play out personal issues with each other? It is sad to see the comments section regularly descend into this kind of schoolyard antics. If you are really that offended with each other then maybe you should meet up somewhere and duke it out like men.
I apologise to you Kiwi, but my patience is running out with certain individuals.
All good mate, sticks and stones :)
Trouble is after the latest bombshell, some of what the neggies said is starting to come true. What is happening to our Club? What have we done to deserve this kind of treatment? I am convinced it will turn around and come good, but right now I am seriously concerned.
The only possible conclusion that I can draw is that Saints became a victim of their own success last year, and this success has presented opportunity to build some egos the size of cathedrals. There are undoubtably some politics going on. Maybe some people on here are privy to them but to me are not tangible. While it pays to be aware of the negative aspects that may be afoot, it's time to get Winston Churchill on this and be resolute, because if the fans surrender to defeatism in the face of adversity, it definately will not help our club at all. What other level of control do we have as fans?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Stupid boy.[/p][/quote]He makes a lot more sense than you[/p][/quote]Only to a twerp like you though.[/p][/quote]Aaahhh , the site troll osprey saint , back to give more insults to people , because he doesn't agree with their opinions . Very mature[/p][/quote]You mean you didn't ask for it with the imature posts that you keep trolling out, I thought you were attention seeking, so I gave you some, if anyone needs to grow up it is surely you?[/p][/quote]Im not the troll who trolls this site insulting people , calling them immature names ...trying to bully them into being quiet . Shall we have a look back today to see how many times you have used insults ? Your the site troll . I leave my opinion and dont resort to pathetic name calling Its a forum , its for people to leave opinions , not for trolls like you to abuse them[/p][/quote]So report me.[/p][/quote]Can you guys please remember that we are Saints fans, and are here to discuss the issues surrounding the team, not use this blog as a forum to play out personal issues with each other? It is sad to see the comments section regularly descend into this kind of schoolyard antics. If you are really that offended with each other then maybe you should meet up somewhere and duke it out like men.[/p][/quote]I apologise to you Kiwi, but my patience is running out with certain individuals.[/p][/quote]All good mate, sticks and stones :)[/p][/quote]Trouble is after the latest bombshell, some of what the neggies said is starting to come true. What is happening to our Club? What have we done to deserve this kind of treatment? I am convinced it will turn around and come good, but right now I am seriously concerned.[/p][/quote]The only possible conclusion that I can draw is that Saints became a victim of their own success last year, and this success has presented opportunity to build some egos the size of cathedrals. There are undoubtably some politics going on. Maybe some people on here are privy to them but to me are not tangible. While it pays to be aware of the negative aspects that may be afoot, it's time to get Winston Churchill on this and be resolute, because if the fans surrender to defeatism in the face of adversity, it definately will not help our club at all. What other level of control do we have as fans? KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 1

11:47pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

one in the crowd wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
Lovren set for medical after Liverpool agree £20m deal for Southampton

Croatian international has been Rodgers' top centre-back target of the summer

Dejan Lovren is set to become the most expensive defender in Liverpool FC's history after they agreed a £20million deal with Southampton.
Reds chief executive Ian Ayre has flown back to the UK from the club's tour of America in order to complete the transfer.
The Croatia international is scheduled to undergo his medical and sort out personal terms in Liverpool on Saturday.
Brendan Rodgers has been pursuing a deal for Lovren all summer with the 25-year-old his number one defensive target.
If everything goes to plan Lovren will link up with the Reds squad in either New York or Charlotte next week.

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Liverpool FC transfer gossip: Reds in for £36.5m Benfica winger, Shaqiri bid mooted, latest on Vidal future

A round-up of the day's LFC transfer rumours

Liverpool FC could be in for £35.6m Benfica winger Nicolas Gaitan, according to the Metro .
The Argentinian winger has a release clause in his contract with the Portugese champions and has impressed while helping Benfica reach successive Europa League finals and also win the Primeira League last season.
Meanwhile Brendan Rodgers is reported to have made a £14.2m bid for Bayern Munich playmaker Xherdan Shaqiri, claims Swiss paper Blick .
The 22-year-old performed well at the World Cup, bagging a hat-trick for Switzerland in the group stages, but struggled for regular game time with the Bundesliga champions last season.
The chances of Arturo Vidal moving to Anfield have receded though with Juventus now expecting to keep hold of the Chile midfielder.
The Express reports that Juventus chief Beppe Marotta thinks it very unlikely the 27-year-old will leave Turin.
He said when asked if he would be surprised if Vidal left: “Absolutely yes. It is a very remote chance, considering what the lad is like, and so I’m not even considering the possibility.
“The situation around him is typical of the transfer market when several big clubs admire him. Vidal exploded in a fairly unexpected way over the last two years to become one of the most important players in the world.
“He is naturally linked to big clubs, but I’ll point out Juventus are a big club too and we intend to hold on tight. I don’t get the sensation he wants to leave us.”
One foot in the grave...of all the threads,in all the world,you had to walk into ours.
If you where to take in what I said about what is happening at Saint's, you must surely see that fans who were asked to renew season tickets early have been taken for a ride by a management that is keeping them completely in the dark.

One doesn't need to be a genius to work out that there is something seriously wrong within the administration of Saint's, I don't know of any other club that has had the kind of trouble Saint's have had between it's star players and management, after Saint's have had one of their best ever seasons.

It isn't fair to put all the blame on Liverpool, they are only securing their own future ambitions and success as a football club, something that sadly Saint's management seems to ignore for it's own fans. Believe me something is very wrong behind the scenes at your club, and in time the truth might emerge.
Well why do feel this sadistic desire to keep coming on here and rubbing it in then,if your so sympathetic?
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: Lovren set for medical after Liverpool agree £20m deal for Southampton Croatian international has been Rodgers' top centre-back target of the summer Dejan Lovren is set to become the most expensive defender in Liverpool FC's history after they agreed a £20million deal with Southampton. Reds chief executive Ian Ayre has flown back to the UK from the club's tour of America in order to complete the transfer. The Croatia international is scheduled to undergo his medical and sort out personal terms in Liverpool on Saturday. Brendan Rodgers has been pursuing a deal for Lovren all summer with the 25-year-old his number one defensive target. If everything goes to plan Lovren will link up with the Reds squad in either New York or Charlotte next week. ------- Liverpool FC transfer gossip: Reds in for £36.5m Benfica winger, Shaqiri bid mooted, latest on Vidal future A round-up of the day's LFC transfer rumours Liverpool FC could be in for £35.6m Benfica winger Nicolas Gaitan, according to the Metro . The Argentinian winger has a release clause in his contract with the Portugese champions and has impressed while helping Benfica reach successive Europa League finals and also win the Primeira League last season. Meanwhile Brendan Rodgers is reported to have made a £14.2m bid for Bayern Munich playmaker Xherdan Shaqiri, claims Swiss paper Blick . The 22-year-old performed well at the World Cup, bagging a hat-trick for Switzerland in the group stages, but struggled for regular game time with the Bundesliga champions last season. The chances of Arturo Vidal moving to Anfield have receded though with Juventus now expecting to keep hold of the Chile midfielder. The Express reports that Juventus chief Beppe Marotta thinks it very unlikely the 27-year-old will leave Turin. He said when asked if he would be surprised if Vidal left: “Absolutely yes. It is a very remote chance, considering what the lad is like, and so I’m not even considering the possibility. “The situation around him is typical of the transfer market when several big clubs admire him. Vidal exploded in a fairly unexpected way over the last two years to become one of the most important players in the world. “He is naturally linked to big clubs, but I’ll point out Juventus are a big club too and we intend to hold on tight. I don’t get the sensation he wants to leave us.”[/p][/quote]One foot in the grave...of all the threads,in all the world,you had to walk into ours.[/p][/quote]If you where to take in what I said about what is happening at Saint's, you must surely see that fans who were asked to renew season tickets early have been taken for a ride by a management that is keeping them completely in the dark. One doesn't need to be a genius to work out that there is something seriously wrong within the administration of Saint's, I don't know of any other club that has had the kind of trouble Saint's have had between it's star players and management, after Saint's have had one of their best ever seasons. It isn't fair to put all the blame on Liverpool, they are only securing their own future ambitions and success as a football club, something that sadly Saint's management seems to ignore for it's own fans. Believe me something is very wrong behind the scenes at your club, and in time the truth might emerge.[/p][/quote]Well why do feel this sadistic desire to keep coming on here and rubbing it in then,if your so sympathetic? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 4

11:49pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Invidia says...

I was at the game tonight and I thought we did better than I expected, the two new signing Pelle and Tadic were very good I think fans will take to Tadic. Ramirez if he works that hard as he did tonight he will really impress. The midfield were solid as always, the academy lads Isgrove and Tagett were very impressive. Clyne is what we have come to expect did not put a foot wrong in my opinion.
We have to be negative to get fans attention so the negatives were Bournemouth did not offer much and I think they will struggle this season
I was at the game tonight and I thought we did better than I expected, the two new signing Pelle and Tadic were very good I think fans will take to Tadic. Ramirez if he works that hard as he did tonight he will really impress. The midfield were solid as always, the academy lads Isgrove and Tagett were very impressive. Clyne is what we have come to expect did not put a foot wrong in my opinion. We have to be negative to get fans attention so the negatives were Bournemouth did not offer much and I think they will struggle this season Invidia
  • Score: 10

11:52pm Fri 25 Jul 14

deepheat says...

Adam Lallana to miss start of season.

Liverpool have today confirmed Adam Lallana has suffered a knee injury in training and is set to miss the start of the new season.

The midfielder, who moved to Anfield from Southampton earlier this month, sustained a knock to his lateral collateral ligament during a session at the Reds' Harvard University training base in Boston.

He won't be playing against Saints in the first game of the new season.
Adam Lallana to miss start of season. Liverpool have today confirmed Adam Lallana has suffered a knee injury in training and is set to miss the start of the new season. The midfielder, who moved to Anfield from Southampton earlier this month, sustained a knock to his lateral collateral ligament during a session at the Reds' Harvard University training base in Boston. He won't be playing against Saints in the first game of the new season. deepheat
  • Score: -2

11:53pm Fri 25 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

Enrico Palazzo wrote:
Enrico Palazzo wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
long memory wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
Sir,that is an absolutely disgraceful comment to make,hang your head in shame.
Forest Saint, be ashamed - what a disgusting and shameful thing to post.
How the hell do you end up getting -3 for this post!? I am slowly but surely losing patience and belief in so called Saints fans on here.
There are clearly some total tw*ts who use this site. Instead of anonymously putting thumbs down, respond in person and say why you give a negative marks to people standing up for the Liebherr family. Show some spine.
I agree with you Enrico 100%. Tonight we are being swamped by nasty negative remarks. I made some earlier "positive" comments and I was feeling even more positive after watching Saints on youtube this evening. Thought I would come on here to join in the discussions about some excellent performances only to find all these totally unjustified negative comments. Perhaps can start our own forum and suspend users who use bad language or attack other posts or our board when they have no evidence to back up their comments.
[quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Enrico Palazzo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]Sir,that is an absolutely disgraceful comment to make,hang your head in shame.[/p][/quote]Forest Saint, be ashamed - what a disgusting and shameful thing to post.[/p][/quote]How the hell do you end up getting -3 for this post!? I am slowly but surely losing patience and belief in so called Saints fans on here.[/p][/quote]There are clearly some total tw*ts who use this site. Instead of anonymously putting thumbs down, respond in person and say why you give a negative marks to people standing up for the Liebherr family. Show some spine.[/p][/quote]I agree with you Enrico 100%. Tonight we are being swamped by nasty negative remarks. I made some earlier "positive" comments and I was feeling even more positive after watching Saints on youtube this evening. Thought I would come on here to join in the discussions about some excellent performances only to find all these totally unjustified negative comments. Perhaps can start our own forum and suspend users who use bad language or attack other posts or our board when they have no evidence to back up their comments. nomorerumours
  • Score: -11

11:54pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Vaurion says...

You'd think we were 30 points adrift in December judging by the howling from some of these whiners, lol. We absolutely robbed ManU for Shaw, Lallana just injured himself, Lambert hit his peak at the perfect time for Saints and has at most two more years left in him, and Lovren is an overrated tosser. With even two more signings the squad will be at the same point it was last year, and if we push on from there, we'll be stronger. People comparing us to Tottenham last year are making a bad judgement error: Southampton have an actual style of play, and we're buying players who are compatible with it, unlike Spur's kid-in-a-candy-shop approach.
You'd think we were 30 points adrift in December judging by the howling from some of these whiners, lol. We absolutely robbed ManU for Shaw, Lallana just injured himself, Lambert hit his peak at the perfect time for Saints and has at most two more years left in him, and Lovren is an overrated tosser. With even two more signings the squad will be at the same point it was last year, and if we push on from there, we'll be stronger. People comparing us to Tottenham last year are making a bad judgement error: Southampton have an actual style of play, and we're buying players who are compatible with it, unlike Spur's kid-in-a-candy-shop approach. Vaurion
  • Score: -10

12:01am Sat 26 Jul 14

mr miyagi says...

OK. Throughout this whole sorry episode, I have not commented about the comings and goings (mainly goings) at Saints, but enough is enough. I have just seen on Sky that Arsenal are closing in on Calum Chambers for a reported £16m. This is a player with limited first team experience for £16m! What the f*ck is going on. With Lambert, Llanana & Lovren to Liverpool, Shaw to Man U, Chambers to Arsenal and possibly Schneiderlin to Arsenal or Spurs. Also Clyne, Rodriguez and Fonte have been mentioned as possible departures, that would make up to 9 players leaving, with arguably 8 of them as first team players.

How can the board of a club that finished 8th last season allow this to happen, when they should be building on that success. In all my years I have never witnessed such a potential demolition of a club. I firmly blame Ralph Kruger and Les Reed, as I see them as the sole decision makers in this process, particularly for coming out and stating there would not be a fire sale and no star players will be sold. Liars.

I know if a player wants to leave, you will struggle to stop that, but could they not be sold a vision that they must have been sold by the previous regime. No disrespect to Villa, who have struggled for the last two or three seasons, but they say hands off and thats that, end of story. We say hands off and the next thing we know the player has been sold.

We will run out of time to buy any suitable replacements, if any, and start the season fielding a young inexperienced team, like Villa did, and take some beatings. On top of that, how can we expect to attract any big players in, the first question they will ask is 'Why is everyone leaving? Thanks but no thanks'. Pelle and Tadic probably only signed because they knew the boss, but that stream will dry up pretty quickly, or do we become Feyanoord on the coast? Season starts in three weeks, but our last signing was two weeks ago, apart from the young goalie from Torquay.

I am really fearful of next season, particularly if the kids get thrown in. I think it will have a detrimental impact on the Academy, but really hope it don't come to that.
OK. Throughout this whole sorry episode, I have not commented about the comings and goings (mainly goings) at Saints, but enough is enough. I have just seen on Sky that Arsenal are closing in on Calum Chambers for a reported £16m. This is a player with limited first team experience for £16m! What the f*ck is going on. With Lambert, Llanana & Lovren to Liverpool, Shaw to Man U, Chambers to Arsenal and possibly Schneiderlin to Arsenal or Spurs. Also Clyne, Rodriguez and Fonte have been mentioned as possible departures, that would make up to 9 players leaving, with arguably 8 of them as first team players. How can the board of a club that finished 8th last season allow this to happen, when they should be building on that success. In all my years I have never witnessed such a potential demolition of a club. I firmly blame Ralph Kruger and Les Reed, as I see them as the sole decision makers in this process, particularly for coming out and stating there would not be a fire sale and no star players will be sold. Liars. I know if a player wants to leave, you will struggle to stop that, but could they not be sold a vision that they must have been sold by the previous regime. No disrespect to Villa, who have struggled for the last two or three seasons, but they say hands off and thats that, end of story. We say hands off and the next thing we know the player has been sold. We will run out of time to buy any suitable replacements, if any, and start the season fielding a young inexperienced team, like Villa did, and take some beatings. On top of that, how can we expect to attract any big players in, the first question they will ask is 'Why is everyone leaving? Thanks but no thanks'. Pelle and Tadic probably only signed because they knew the boss, but that stream will dry up pretty quickly, or do we become Feyanoord on the coast? Season starts in three weeks, but our last signing was two weeks ago, apart from the young goalie from Torquay. I am really fearful of next season, particularly if the kids get thrown in. I think it will have a detrimental impact on the Academy, but really hope it don't come to that. mr miyagi
  • Score: 19

12:01am Sat 26 Jul 14

jls217 says...

montecristosaint wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I have to take issue with this idea that Liebherr has invested massively in this club. She hasnt. Arguably most of the investment was made by her father, or provided for by him, and I refer to the training facilities in particular. She has no interest in the club, never did and that is why Cortese left. Time for Saints fans to wake up smell the coffee and realize the damage being done to the club. I personally will never forgive her, and I suspect there are thousands who feel the same way. The question is will she have the gall to show her face at St Marys at our first home game?? it would be a bald faced cheek if she did frankly. Time for her to sell the club, she is not wanted here any longer.
Here's someone who wants her here for as long as she want to keep the club. Maybe what you meant to say before you assumed the right to speak for all Saints fans is that you don't want her here anymore. You have the right not to forgive her for whatever imagined crime it is you are accusing her of.
Let me ask you a question please. If Southampton earned £100 pounds today from selling shirts for example, once the supplier has been paid and the taxman has his cut. The rest goes to Southampton FC. Who owns that money?
Oh just worked that out for myself - it belongs to Katharina Liebherr every single penny of it.
So another question then. If Southampton decides to spend that profit on some new footballs is that a legitimate business investment?
Oh, just worked that out for myself too, silly me, of course it is. Wait a minute Southampton doesn't have any money - not a single penny. It actually belongs to the owner, who is..........Katharin
a, so, therefore every teabag, toilet roll, pen, phone call, and even the serious stuff such as the wages of who knows how many employees and the contracts for who knows how many local companies are all paid by Katharina Liebherr with her money because as I've just worked out for myself Southampton doesn't have any money unless she gives it to us.
Southampton just purchased a couple of players costing a lot of money did the club use its own money. Oh silly me again we've already established it has not money of its own, maybe you bought them? Well somebody had to give the nearly 20mill to bring them so who exactly was it gave that money then? That's right Monte by now even you should be getting the picture - it was Katharina's money every last single penny of it. Feel big about making such a fool of yourself now - you should. I hope for your sake she doesn't take your abuse too personally and decide she doesn't want you or your twisted bile on her business premises. Run it all over in your mind and then see if you can come on here man up and be a little more grateful and humble toward the lady who is funding everything to do with our club with her own money.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I have to take issue with this idea that Liebherr has invested massively in this club. She hasnt. Arguably most of the investment was made by her father, or provided for by him, and I refer to the training facilities in particular. She has no interest in the club, never did and that is why Cortese left. Time for Saints fans to wake up smell the coffee and realize the damage being done to the club. I personally will never forgive her, and I suspect there are thousands who feel the same way. The question is will she have the gall to show her face at St Marys at our first home game?? it would be a bald faced cheek if she did frankly. Time for her to sell the club, she is not wanted here any longer.[/p][/quote]Here's someone who wants her here for as long as she want to keep the club. Maybe what you meant to say before you assumed the right to speak for all Saints fans is that you don't want her here anymore. You have the right not to forgive her for whatever imagined crime it is you are accusing her of. Let me ask you a question please. If Southampton earned £100 pounds today from selling shirts for example, once the supplier has been paid and the taxman has his cut. The rest goes to Southampton FC. Who owns that money? Oh just worked that out for myself - it belongs to Katharina Liebherr every single penny of it. So another question then. If Southampton decides to spend that profit on some new footballs is that a legitimate business investment? Oh, just worked that out for myself too, silly me, of course it is. Wait a minute Southampton doesn't have any money - not a single penny. It actually belongs to the owner, who is..........Katharin a, so, therefore every teabag, toilet roll, pen, phone call, and even the serious stuff such as the wages of who knows how many employees and the contracts for who knows how many local companies are all paid by Katharina Liebherr with her money because as I've just worked out for myself Southampton doesn't have any money unless she gives it to us. Southampton just purchased a couple of players costing a lot of money did the club use its own money. Oh silly me again we've already established it has not money of its own, maybe you bought them? Well somebody had to give the nearly 20mill to bring them so who exactly was it gave that money then? That's right Monte by now even you should be getting the picture - it was Katharina's money every last single penny of it. Feel big about making such a fool of yourself now - you should. I hope for your sake she doesn't take your abuse too personally and decide she doesn't want you or your twisted bile on her business premises. Run it all over in your mind and then see if you can come on here man up and be a little more grateful and humble toward the lady who is funding everything to do with our club with her own money. jls217
  • Score: -22

12:03am Sat 26 Jul 14

Invidia says...

Invidia wrote:
I was at the game tonight and I thought we did better than I expected, the two new signing Pelle and Tadic were very good I think fans will take to Tadic. Ramirez if he works that hard as he did tonight he will really impress. The midfield were solid as always, the academy lads Isgrove and Tagett were very impressive. Clyne is what we have come to expect did not put a foot wrong in my opinion.
We have to be negative to get fans attention so the negatives were Bournemouth did not offer much and I think they will struggle this season
I sent this and did not finish Jose and Yosh were quite solid but it fell apart a bit when Hoov came on wherein lies the problem we are so thin on backup any one of the players are injured I feel we will not make mid table and be in the dog fight at the end of the season, I hope I'm wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: I was at the game tonight and I thought we did better than I expected, the two new signing Pelle and Tadic were very good I think fans will take to Tadic. Ramirez if he works that hard as he did tonight he will really impress. The midfield were solid as always, the academy lads Isgrove and Tagett were very impressive. Clyne is what we have come to expect did not put a foot wrong in my opinion. We have to be negative to get fans attention so the negatives were Bournemouth did not offer much and I think they will struggle this season[/p][/quote]I sent this and did not finish Jose and Yosh were quite solid but it fell apart a bit when Hoov came on wherein lies the problem we are so thin on backup any one of the players are injured I feel we will not make mid table and be in the dog fight at the end of the season, I hope I'm wrong. Invidia
  • Score: 4

12:18am Sat 26 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

mr miyagi wrote:
OK. Throughout this whole sorry episode, I have not commented about the comings and goings (mainly goings) at Saints, but enough is enough. I have just seen on Sky that Arsenal are closing in on Calum Chambers for a reported £16m. This is a player with limited first team experience for £16m! What the f*ck is going on. With Lambert, Llanana & Lovren to Liverpool, Shaw to Man U, Chambers to Arsenal and possibly Schneiderlin to Arsenal or Spurs. Also Clyne, Rodriguez and Fonte have been mentioned as possible departures, that would make up to 9 players leaving, with arguably 8 of them as first team players.

How can the board of a club that finished 8th last season allow this to happen, when they should be building on that success. In all my years I have never witnessed such a potential demolition of a club. I firmly blame Ralph Kruger and Les Reed, as I see them as the sole decision makers in this process, particularly for coming out and stating there would not be a fire sale and no star players will be sold. Liars.

I know if a player wants to leave, you will struggle to stop that, but could they not be sold a vision that they must have been sold by the previous regime. No disrespect to Villa, who have struggled for the last two or three seasons, but they say hands off and thats that, end of story. We say hands off and the next thing we know the player has been sold.

We will run out of time to buy any suitable replacements, if any, and start the season fielding a young inexperienced team, like Villa did, and take some beatings. On top of that, how can we expect to attract any big players in, the first question they will ask is 'Why is everyone leaving? Thanks but no thanks'. Pelle and Tadic probably only signed because they knew the boss, but that stream will dry up pretty quickly, or do we become Feyanoord on the coast? Season starts in three weeks, but our last signing was two weeks ago, apart from the young goalie from Torquay.

I am really fearful of next season, particularly if the kids get thrown in. I think it will have a detrimental impact on the Academy, but really hope it don't come to that.
Superb post.
No attempt to keep any players. Sure they still would have gone, but a little tempter might have swayed a couple.
All the board saw were $ signs and plenty of them.
[quote][p][bold]mr miyagi[/bold] wrote: OK. Throughout this whole sorry episode, I have not commented about the comings and goings (mainly goings) at Saints, but enough is enough. I have just seen on Sky that Arsenal are closing in on Calum Chambers for a reported £16m. This is a player with limited first team experience for £16m! What the f*ck is going on. With Lambert, Llanana & Lovren to Liverpool, Shaw to Man U, Chambers to Arsenal and possibly Schneiderlin to Arsenal or Spurs. Also Clyne, Rodriguez and Fonte have been mentioned as possible departures, that would make up to 9 players leaving, with arguably 8 of them as first team players. How can the board of a club that finished 8th last season allow this to happen, when they should be building on that success. In all my years I have never witnessed such a potential demolition of a club. I firmly blame Ralph Kruger and Les Reed, as I see them as the sole decision makers in this process, particularly for coming out and stating there would not be a fire sale and no star players will be sold. Liars. I know if a player wants to leave, you will struggle to stop that, but could they not be sold a vision that they must have been sold by the previous regime. No disrespect to Villa, who have struggled for the last two or three seasons, but they say hands off and thats that, end of story. We say hands off and the next thing we know the player has been sold. We will run out of time to buy any suitable replacements, if any, and start the season fielding a young inexperienced team, like Villa did, and take some beatings. On top of that, how can we expect to attract any big players in, the first question they will ask is 'Why is everyone leaving? Thanks but no thanks'. Pelle and Tadic probably only signed because they knew the boss, but that stream will dry up pretty quickly, or do we become Feyanoord on the coast? Season starts in three weeks, but our last signing was two weeks ago, apart from the young goalie from Torquay. I am really fearful of next season, particularly if the kids get thrown in. I think it will have a detrimental impact on the Academy, but really hope it don't come to that.[/p][/quote]Superb post. No attempt to keep any players. Sure they still would have gone, but a little tempter might have swayed a couple. All the board saw were $ signs and plenty of them. costa gaz
  • Score: 13

12:20am Sat 26 Jul 14

deepheat says...

Vaurion wrote:
You'd think we were 30 points adrift in December judging by the howling from some of these whiners, lol. We absolutely robbed ManU for Shaw, Lallana just injured himself, Lambert hit his peak at the perfect time for Saints and has at most two more years left in him, and Lovren is an overrated tosser. With even two more signings the squad will be at the same point it was last year, and if we push on from there, we'll be stronger. People comparing us to Tottenham last year are making a bad judgement error: Southampton have an actual style of play, and we're buying players who are compatible with it, unlike Spur's kid-in-a-candy-shop approach.
Spot on mate.

Here is the team that narrowly lost 3-2 to Man City on the opening day of the season Aug 19 2012

01 K Davis
02 Clyne
05 Hooiveld
06 Fonte
13 Fox
04 Schneiderlin
16 Ward-Prowse
20 Lallana
21 Guly
42 Puncheon
09 Rodriguez

Substitutes

12 Gazzaniga
22 Richardson
23 Shaw
25 Seaborne
08 S Davis
07 Lambert
11 Sharp

Here is the saints team that finished 8th and lined up against Man U on 11th May 2014

31 Boruc
02 Clyne
23 Shaw Booked
04 Schneiderlin
06 Fonte
05 Lovren
18 Cork
12 Wanyama
07 Lambert
08 Davis
20 Lallana

Substitutes

16 Ward-Prowse
21 Do Prado
22 Chambers
25 Gazzaniga
26 Hooiveld
38 Reed
40 Gallagher

We now have a better coach, more money and with a bit of tinkering the squad will be stronger. We are building for the long term and I just want to stay in the EPL for many years to come.
[quote][p][bold]Vaurion[/bold] wrote: You'd think we were 30 points adrift in December judging by the howling from some of these whiners, lol. We absolutely robbed ManU for Shaw, Lallana just injured himself, Lambert hit his peak at the perfect time for Saints and has at most two more years left in him, and Lovren is an overrated tosser. With even two more signings the squad will be at the same point it was last year, and if we push on from there, we'll be stronger. People comparing us to Tottenham last year are making a bad judgement error: Southampton have an actual style of play, and we're buying players who are compatible with it, unlike Spur's kid-in-a-candy-shop approach.[/p][/quote]Spot on mate. Here is the team that narrowly lost 3-2 to Man City on the opening day of the season Aug 19 2012 01 K Davis 02 Clyne 05 Hooiveld 06 Fonte 13 Fox 04 Schneiderlin 16 Ward-Prowse 20 Lallana 21 Guly 42 Puncheon 09 Rodriguez Substitutes 12 Gazzaniga 22 Richardson 23 Shaw 25 Seaborne 08 S Davis 07 Lambert 11 Sharp Here is the saints team that finished 8th and lined up against Man U on 11th May 2014 31 Boruc 02 Clyne 23 Shaw Booked 04 Schneiderlin 06 Fonte 05 Lovren 18 Cork 12 Wanyama 07 Lambert 08 Davis 20 Lallana Substitutes 16 Ward-Prowse 21 Do Prado 22 Chambers 25 Gazzaniga 26 Hooiveld 38 Reed 40 Gallagher We now have a better coach, more money and with a bit of tinkering the squad will be stronger. We are building for the long term and I just want to stay in the EPL for many years to come. deepheat
  • Score: -9

12:26am Sat 26 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
Lovren set for medical after Liverpool agree £20m deal for Southampton

Croatian international has been Rodgers' top centre-back target of the summer

Dejan Lovren is set to become the most expensive defender in Liverpool FC's history after they agreed a £20million deal with Southampton.
Reds chief executive Ian Ayre has flown back to the UK from the club's tour of America in order to complete the transfer.
The Croatia international is scheduled to undergo his medical and sort out personal terms in Liverpool on Saturday.
Brendan Rodgers has been pursuing a deal for Lovren all summer with the 25-year-old his number one defensive target.
If everything goes to plan Lovren will link up with the Reds squad in either New York or Charlotte next week.

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Liverpool FC transfer gossip: Reds in for £36.5m Benfica winger, Shaqiri bid mooted, latest on Vidal future

A round-up of the day's LFC transfer rumours

Liverpool FC could be in for £35.6m Benfica winger Nicolas Gaitan, according to the Metro .
The Argentinian winger has a release clause in his contract with the Portugese champions and has impressed while helping Benfica reach successive Europa League finals and also win the Primeira League last season.
Meanwhile Brendan Rodgers is reported to have made a £14.2m bid for Bayern Munich playmaker Xherdan Shaqiri, claims Swiss paper Blick .
The 22-year-old performed well at the World Cup, bagging a hat-trick for Switzerland in the group stages, but struggled for regular game time with the Bundesliga champions last season.
The chances of Arturo Vidal moving to Anfield have receded though with Juventus now expecting to keep hold of the Chile midfielder.
The Express reports that Juventus chief Beppe Marotta thinks it very unlikely the 27-year-old will leave Turin.
He said when asked if he would be surprised if Vidal left: “Absolutely yes. It is a very remote chance, considering what the lad is like, and so I’m not even considering the possibility.
“The situation around him is typical of the transfer market when several big clubs admire him. Vidal exploded in a fairly unexpected way over the last two years to become one of the most important players in the world.
“He is naturally linked to big clubs, but I’ll point out Juventus are a big club too and we intend to hold on tight. I don’t get the sensation he wants to leave us.”
One foot in the grave...of all the threads,in all the world,you had to walk into ours.
If you where to take in what I said about what is happening at Saint's, you must surely see that fans who were asked to renew season tickets early have been taken for a ride by a management that is keeping them completely in the dark.

One doesn't need to be a genius to work out that there is something seriously wrong within the administration of Saint's, I don't know of any other club that has had the kind of trouble Saint's have had between it's star players and management, after Saint's have had one of their best ever seasons.

It isn't fair to put all the blame on Liverpool, they are only securing their own future ambitions and success as a football club, something that sadly Saint's management seems to ignore for it's own fans. Believe me something is very wrong behind the scenes at your club, and in time the truth might emerge.
Well why do feel this sadistic desire to keep coming on here and rubbing it in then,if your so sympathetic?
It might have something to do with him being a mite dense mate. Or being socially inadequate which is why he's on here and not on a Skiverpool forum talking with them - they've black balled him maybe.
I appreciate what Skiverpool has done is made a fortune from selling their resident cannibal and handed over hugely inflated amounts for some of our castoffs which adds up to half the money they've earned. I for one am grateful there are dumb scousers around - how else would we have been able to amass all that money to pay for the huge investments that have been made in this club and for the new players. Guess we should be grateful to our Scouse cousins for financing our club. They can't be that good up there though - they let Guly and Fox slip through their fingers.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: Lovren set for medical after Liverpool agree £20m deal for Southampton Croatian international has been Rodgers' top centre-back target of the summer Dejan Lovren is set to become the most expensive defender in Liverpool FC's history after they agreed a £20million deal with Southampton. Reds chief executive Ian Ayre has flown back to the UK from the club's tour of America in order to complete the transfer. The Croatia international is scheduled to undergo his medical and sort out personal terms in Liverpool on Saturday. Brendan Rodgers has been pursuing a deal for Lovren all summer with the 25-year-old his number one defensive target. If everything goes to plan Lovren will link up with the Reds squad in either New York or Charlotte next week. ------- Liverpool FC transfer gossip: Reds in for £36.5m Benfica winger, Shaqiri bid mooted, latest on Vidal future A round-up of the day's LFC transfer rumours Liverpool FC could be in for £35.6m Benfica winger Nicolas Gaitan, according to the Metro . The Argentinian winger has a release clause in his contract with the Portugese champions and has impressed while helping Benfica reach successive Europa League finals and also win the Primeira League last season. Meanwhile Brendan Rodgers is reported to have made a £14.2m bid for Bayern Munich playmaker Xherdan Shaqiri, claims Swiss paper Blick . The 22-year-old performed well at the World Cup, bagging a hat-trick for Switzerland in the group stages, but struggled for regular game time with the Bundesliga champions last season. The chances of Arturo Vidal moving to Anfield have receded though with Juventus now expecting to keep hold of the Chile midfielder. The Express reports that Juventus chief Beppe Marotta thinks it very unlikely the 27-year-old will leave Turin. He said when asked if he would be surprised if Vidal left: “Absolutely yes. It is a very remote chance, considering what the lad is like, and so I’m not even considering the possibility. “The situation around him is typical of the transfer market when several big clubs admire him. Vidal exploded in a fairly unexpected way over the last two years to become one of the most important players in the world. “He is naturally linked to big clubs, but I’ll point out Juventus are a big club too and we intend to hold on tight. I don’t get the sensation he wants to leave us.”[/p][/quote]One foot in the grave...of all the threads,in all the world,you had to walk into ours.[/p][/quote]If you where to take in what I said about what is happening at Saint's, you must surely see that fans who were asked to renew season tickets early have been taken for a ride by a management that is keeping them completely in the dark. One doesn't need to be a genius to work out that there is something seriously wrong within the administration of Saint's, I don't know of any other club that has had the kind of trouble Saint's have had between it's star players and management, after Saint's have had one of their best ever seasons. It isn't fair to put all the blame on Liverpool, they are only securing their own future ambitions and success as a football club, something that sadly Saint's management seems to ignore for it's own fans. Believe me something is very wrong behind the scenes at your club, and in time the truth might emerge.[/p][/quote]Well why do feel this sadistic desire to keep coming on here and rubbing it in then,if your so sympathetic?[/p][/quote]It might have something to do with him being a mite dense mate. Or being socially inadequate which is why he's on here and not on a Skiverpool forum talking with them - they've black balled him maybe. I appreciate what Skiverpool has done is made a fortune from selling their resident cannibal and handed over hugely inflated amounts for some of our castoffs which adds up to half the money they've earned. I for one am grateful there are dumb scousers around - how else would we have been able to amass all that money to pay for the huge investments that have been made in this club and for the new players. Guess we should be grateful to our Scouse cousins for financing our club. They can't be that good up there though - they let Guly and Fox slip through their fingers. jls217
  • Score: -10

12:45am Sat 26 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

jls217 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
one in the crowd wrote:
Lovren set for medical after Liverpool agree £20m deal for Southampton

Croatian international has been Rodgers' top centre-back target of the summer

Dejan Lovren is set to become the most expensive defender in Liverpool FC's history after they agreed a £20million deal with Southampton.
Reds chief executive Ian Ayre has flown back to the UK from the club's tour of America in order to complete the transfer.
The Croatia international is scheduled to undergo his medical and sort out personal terms in Liverpool on Saturday.
Brendan Rodgers has been pursuing a deal for Lovren all summer with the 25-year-old his number one defensive target.
If everything goes to plan Lovren will link up with the Reds squad in either New York or Charlotte next week.

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Liverpool FC transfer gossip: Reds in for £36.5m Benfica winger, Shaqiri bid mooted, latest on Vidal future

A round-up of the day's LFC transfer rumours

Liverpool FC could be in for £35.6m Benfica winger Nicolas Gaitan, according to the Metro .
The Argentinian winger has a release clause in his contract with the Portugese champions and has impressed while helping Benfica reach successive Europa League finals and also win the Primeira League last season.
Meanwhile Brendan Rodgers is reported to have made a £14.2m bid for Bayern Munich playmaker Xherdan Shaqiri, claims Swiss paper Blick .
The 22-year-old performed well at the World Cup, bagging a hat-trick for Switzerland in the group stages, but struggled for regular game time with the Bundesliga champions last season.
The chances of Arturo Vidal moving to Anfield have receded though with Juventus now expecting to keep hold of the Chile midfielder.
The Express reports that Juventus chief Beppe Marotta thinks it very unlikely the 27-year-old will leave Turin.
He said when asked if he would be surprised if Vidal left: “Absolutely yes. It is a very remote chance, considering what the lad is like, and so I’m not even considering the possibility.
“The situation around him is typical of the transfer market when several big clubs admire him. Vidal exploded in a fairly unexpected way over the last two years to become one of the most important players in the world.
“He is naturally linked to big clubs, but I’ll point out Juventus are a big club too and we intend to hold on tight. I don’t get the sensation he wants to leave us.”
One foot in the grave...of all the threads,in all the world,you had to walk into ours.
If you where to take in what I said about what is happening at Saint's, you must surely see that fans who were asked to renew season tickets early have been taken for a ride by a management that is keeping them completely in the dark.

One doesn't need to be a genius to work out that there is something seriously wrong within the administration of Saint's, I don't know of any other club that has had the kind of trouble Saint's have had between it's star players and management, after Saint's have had one of their best ever seasons.

It isn't fair to put all the blame on Liverpool, they are only securing their own future ambitions and success as a football club, something that sadly Saint's management seems to ignore for it's own fans. Believe me something is very wrong behind the scenes at your club, and in time the truth might emerge.
Well why do feel this sadistic desire to keep coming on here and rubbing it in then,if your so sympathetic?
It might have something to do with him being a mite dense mate. Or being socially inadequate which is why he's on here and not on a Skiverpool forum talking with them - they've black balled him maybe.
I appreciate what Skiverpool has done is made a fortune from selling their resident cannibal and handed over hugely inflated amounts for some of our castoffs which adds up to half the money they've earned. I for one am grateful there are dumb scousers around - how else would we have been able to amass all that money to pay for the huge investments that have been made in this club and for the new players. Guess we should be grateful to our Scouse cousins for financing our club. They can't be that good up there though - they let Guly and Fox slip through their fingers.
Ha ha,nice one Jls,cheered me up! Better get some shuteye now and see what tomorrow brings...probably find we've sold Ted Bates statue to the empty plinthe in Trafalgar square or something. ;0)
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: Lovren set for medical after Liverpool agree £20m deal for Southampton Croatian international has been Rodgers' top centre-back target of the summer Dejan Lovren is set to become the most expensive defender in Liverpool FC's history after they agreed a £20million deal with Southampton. Reds chief executive Ian Ayre has flown back to the UK from the club's tour of America in order to complete the transfer. The Croatia international is scheduled to undergo his medical and sort out personal terms in Liverpool on Saturday. Brendan Rodgers has been pursuing a deal for Lovren all summer with the 25-year-old his number one defensive target. If everything goes to plan Lovren will link up with the Reds squad in either New York or Charlotte next week. ------- Liverpool FC transfer gossip: Reds in for £36.5m Benfica winger, Shaqiri bid mooted, latest on Vidal future A round-up of the day's LFC transfer rumours Liverpool FC could be in for £35.6m Benfica winger Nicolas Gaitan, according to the Metro . The Argentinian winger has a release clause in his contract with the Portugese champions and has impressed while helping Benfica reach successive Europa League finals and also win the Primeira League last season. Meanwhile Brendan Rodgers is reported to have made a £14.2m bid for Bayern Munich playmaker Xherdan Shaqiri, claims Swiss paper Blick . The 22-year-old performed well at the World Cup, bagging a hat-trick for Switzerland in the group stages, but struggled for regular game time with the Bundesliga champions last season. The chances of Arturo Vidal moving to Anfield have receded though with Juventus now expecting to keep hold of the Chile midfielder. The Express reports that Juventus chief Beppe Marotta thinks it very unlikely the 27-year-old will leave Turin. He said when asked if he would be surprised if Vidal left: “Absolutely yes. It is a very remote chance, considering what the lad is like, and so I’m not even considering the possibility. “The situation around him is typical of the transfer market when several big clubs admire him. Vidal exploded in a fairly unexpected way over the last two years to become one of the most important players in the world. “He is naturally linked to big clubs, but I’ll point out Juventus are a big club too and we intend to hold on tight. I don’t get the sensation he wants to leave us.”[/p][/quote]One foot in the grave...of all the threads,in all the world,you had to walk into ours.[/p][/quote]If you where to take in what I said about what is happening at Saint's, you must surely see that fans who were asked to renew season tickets early have been taken for a ride by a management that is keeping them completely in the dark. One doesn't need to be a genius to work out that there is something seriously wrong within the administration of Saint's, I don't know of any other club that has had the kind of trouble Saint's have had between it's star players and management, after Saint's have had one of their best ever seasons. It isn't fair to put all the blame on Liverpool, they are only securing their own future ambitions and success as a football club, something that sadly Saint's management seems to ignore for it's own fans. Believe me something is very wrong behind the scenes at your club, and in time the truth might emerge.[/p][/quote]Well why do feel this sadistic desire to keep coming on here and rubbing it in then,if your so sympathetic?[/p][/quote]It might have something to do with him being a mite dense mate. Or being socially inadequate which is why he's on here and not on a Skiverpool forum talking with them - they've black balled him maybe. I appreciate what Skiverpool has done is made a fortune from selling their resident cannibal and handed over hugely inflated amounts for some of our castoffs which adds up to half the money they've earned. I for one am grateful there are dumb scousers around - how else would we have been able to amass all that money to pay for the huge investments that have been made in this club and for the new players. Guess we should be grateful to our Scouse cousins for financing our club. They can't be that good up there though - they let Guly and Fox slip through their fingers.[/p][/quote]Ha ha,nice one Jls,cheered me up! Better get some shuteye now and see what tomorrow brings...probably find we've sold Ted Bates statue to the empty plinthe in Trafalgar square or something. ;0) Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 4

12:55am Sat 26 Jul 14

eeyoresowl says...

Andy Welsh wrote:
I know I'm going to get slated by the handwringers again, but this makes sound business sense. Selling a player who has publicly stated his desire to go, for more than double what we paid for him 12 months ago is a no brainer. I know a lot of you don't believe Saints will reinvest the money. I disagree with you and I believe that the team that starts at Liverpool will have an excellent blend of new players who Koeman wants and want to be here and academy graduates like Ward Prowse, Reed and Targett. We'll just have to wait and see who's right. Let's face it not many of us thought we'd finish 8th in the Premier League five years ago, so stranger things have happened.
I agree .. its not yet time to panic. Since M.L. bought the club, weve seen over and over that the front office keeps transfer deals close to the vest until they are done. Obviously we have sold ... but all are player that want to go. There wull be 4-5 quality signings before kickoff at Liverpool I am sure. I am more concerned by the lack of quality opposition for all of our preseason matches so far. Bournemouth, Swindon Town and two low league teans from Belgium and Holland?? Sure we are 4-0, but no real tests so far. I will be very happy if we win, draw or lose a shootout with Leverkusen, since they finished 4th last year in the Bundesliga. This should be a real test, and it will either reveal that our team is much stronger than we thought - even without new players .. or it will highlihgt major weaknesses that must be fixed before the season gets well underway!
[quote][p][bold]Andy Welsh[/bold] wrote: I know I'm going to get slated by the handwringers again, but this makes sound business sense. Selling a player who has publicly stated his desire to go, for more than double what we paid for him 12 months ago is a no brainer. I know a lot of you don't believe Saints will reinvest the money. I disagree with you and I believe that the team that starts at Liverpool will have an excellent blend of new players who Koeman wants and want to be here and academy graduates like Ward Prowse, Reed and Targett. We'll just have to wait and see who's right. Let's face it not many of us thought we'd finish 8th in the Premier League five years ago, so stranger things have happened.[/p][/quote]I agree .. its not yet time to panic. Since M.L. bought the club, weve seen over and over that the front office keeps transfer deals close to the vest until they are done. Obviously we have sold ... but all are player that want to go. There wull be 4-5 quality signings before kickoff at Liverpool I am sure. I am more concerned by the lack of quality opposition for all of our preseason matches so far. Bournemouth, Swindon Town and two low league teans from Belgium and Holland?? Sure we are 4-0, but no real tests so far. I will be very happy if we win, draw or lose a shootout with Leverkusen, since they finished 4th last year in the Bundesliga. This should be a real test, and it will either reveal that our team is much stronger than we thought - even without new players .. or it will highlihgt major weaknesses that must be fixed before the season gets well underway! eeyoresowl
  • Score: -8

1:21am Sat 26 Jul 14

Jesus_02 says...

jls217 wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I have to take issue with this idea that Liebherr has invested massively in this club. She hasnt. Arguably most of the investment was made by her father, or provided for by him, and I refer to the training facilities in particular. She has no interest in the club, never did and that is why Cortese left. Time for Saints fans to wake up smell the coffee and realize the damage being done to the club. I personally will never forgive her, and I suspect there are thousands who feel the same way. The question is will she have the gall to show her face at St Marys at our first home game?? it would be a bald faced cheek if she did frankly. Time for her to sell the club, she is not wanted here any longer.
Here's someone who wants her here for as long as she want to keep the club. Maybe what you meant to say before you assumed the right to speak for all Saints fans is that you don't want her here anymore. You have the right not to forgive her for whatever imagined crime it is you are accusing her of.
Let me ask you a question please. If Southampton earned £100 pounds today from selling shirts for example, once the supplier has been paid and the taxman has his cut. The rest goes to Southampton FC. Who owns that money?
Oh just worked that out for myself - it belongs to Katharina Liebherr every single penny of it.
So another question then. If Southampton decides to spend that profit on some new footballs is that a legitimate business investment?
Oh, just worked that out for myself too, silly me, of course it is. Wait a minute Southampton doesn't have any money - not a single penny. It actually belongs to the owner, who is..........Katharin

a, so, therefore every teabag, toilet roll, pen, phone call, and even the serious stuff such as the wages of who knows how many employees and the contracts for who knows how many local companies are all paid by Katharina Liebherr with her money because as I've just worked out for myself Southampton doesn't have any money unless she gives it to us.
Southampton just purchased a couple of players costing a lot of money did the club use its own money. Oh silly me again we've already established it has not money of its own, maybe you bought them? Well somebody had to give the nearly 20mill to bring them so who exactly was it gave that money then? That's right Monte by now even you should be getting the picture - it was Katharina's money every last single penny of it. Feel big about making such a fool of yourself now - you should. I hope for your sake she doesn't take your abuse too personally and decide she doesn't want you or your twisted bile on her business premises. Run it all over in your mind and then see if you can come on here man up and be a little more grateful and humble toward the lady who is funding everything to do with our club with her own money.
does anyone else thing that its this sort of news that should be on the offical site now. It's embarrassing that fans are left hanging.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I have to take issue with this idea that Liebherr has invested massively in this club. She hasnt. Arguably most of the investment was made by her father, or provided for by him, and I refer to the training facilities in particular. She has no interest in the club, never did and that is why Cortese left. Time for Saints fans to wake up smell the coffee and realize the damage being done to the club. I personally will never forgive her, and I suspect there are thousands who feel the same way. The question is will she have the gall to show her face at St Marys at our first home game?? it would be a bald faced cheek if she did frankly. Time for her to sell the club, she is not wanted here any longer.[/p][/quote]Here's someone who wants her here for as long as she want to keep the club. Maybe what you meant to say before you assumed the right to speak for all Saints fans is that you don't want her here anymore. You have the right not to forgive her for whatever imagined crime it is you are accusing her of. Let me ask you a question please. If Southampton earned £100 pounds today from selling shirts for example, once the supplier has been paid and the taxman has his cut. The rest goes to Southampton FC. Who owns that money? Oh just worked that out for myself - it belongs to Katharina Liebherr every single penny of it. So another question then. If Southampton decides to spend that profit on some new footballs is that a legitimate business investment? Oh, just worked that out for myself too, silly me, of course it is. Wait a minute Southampton doesn't have any money - not a single penny. It actually belongs to the owner, who is..........Katharin a, so, therefore every teabag, toilet roll, pen, phone call, and even the serious stuff such as the wages of who knows how many employees and the contracts for who knows how many local companies are all paid by Katharina Liebherr with her money because as I've just worked out for myself Southampton doesn't have any money unless she gives it to us. Southampton just purchased a couple of players costing a lot of money did the club use its own money. Oh silly me again we've already established it has not money of its own, maybe you bought them? Well somebody had to give the nearly 20mill to bring them so who exactly was it gave that money then? That's right Monte by now even you should be getting the picture - it was Katharina's money every last single penny of it. Feel big about making such a fool of yourself now - you should. I hope for your sake she doesn't take your abuse too personally and decide she doesn't want you or your twisted bile on her business premises. Run it all over in your mind and then see if you can come on here man up and be a little more grateful and humble toward the lady who is funding everything to do with our club with her own money.[/p][/quote]does anyone else thing that its this sort of news that should be on the offical site now. It's embarrassing that fans are left hanging. Jesus_02
  • Score: 3

2:48am Sat 26 Jul 14

bobby the crane says...

jasons odd wrote:
M Clarke wrote:
So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.
Who cares about the money in Ms Liebherrs back pocket , all our best players are being sold . Players of Lovren's quality are impossible to replace .
Katarina is laughing all the way to the bank singing lovely jubbly & Marcus must be turning in his grave, I & others posted some time ago comments a bout Asset Stripping , & hey ho here we are left with a team that could only score 1 goal against Bournemouth, well that just about sums it all up, wait until SFC start playing the big boys, what will you lot be posting ‘’then’’ you just can not or don’t want to see the writing on the wall, this club will be sold believe me they may have lots of dosh in the bank but oh no this will not be spent improving the squad it will stay within Katarina’s coffers, come on you brainy posters you must see what is going on here
[quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M Clarke[/bold] wrote: So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.[/p][/quote]Who cares about the money in Ms Liebherrs back pocket , all our best players are being sold . Players of Lovren's quality are impossible to replace .[/p][/quote]Katarina is laughing all the way to the bank singing lovely jubbly & Marcus must be turning in his grave, I & others posted some time ago comments a bout Asset Stripping , & hey ho here we are left with a team that could only score 1 goal against Bournemouth, well that just about sums it all up, wait until SFC start playing the big boys, what will you lot be posting ‘’then’’ you just can not or don’t want to see the writing on the wall, this club will be sold believe me they may have lots of dosh in the bank but oh no this will not be spent improving the squad it will stay within Katarina’s coffers, come on you brainy posters you must see what is going on here bobby the crane
  • Score: 4

2:55am Sat 26 Jul 14

bobby the crane says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I have to take issue with this idea that Liebherr has invested massively in this club. She hasnt. Arguably most of the investment was made by her father, or provided for by him, and I refer to the training facilities in particular. She has no interest in the club, never did and that is why Cortese left. Time for Saints fans to wake up smell the coffee and realize the damage being done to the club. I personally will never forgive her, and I suspect there are thousands who feel the same way. The question is will she have the gall to show her face at St Marys at our first home game?? it would be a bald faced cheek if she did frankly. Time for her to sell the club, she is not wanted here any longer.
Here's someone who wants her here for as long as she want to keep the club. Maybe what you meant to say before you assumed the right to speak for all Saints fans is that you don't want her here anymore. You have the right not to forgive her for whatever imagined crime it is you are accusing her of.
Let me ask you a question please. If Southampton earned £100 pounds today from selling shirts for example, once the supplier has been paid and the taxman has his cut. The rest goes to Southampton FC. Who owns that money?
Oh just worked that out for myself - it belongs to Katharina Liebherr every single penny of it.
So another question then. If Southampton decides to spend that profit on some new footballs is that a legitimate business investment?
Oh, just worked that out for myself too, silly me, of course it is. Wait a minute Southampton doesn't have any money - not a single penny. It actually belongs to the owner, who is..........Katharin


a, so, therefore every teabag, toilet roll, pen, phone call, and even the serious stuff such as the wages of who knows how many employees and the contracts for who knows how many local companies are all paid by Katharina Liebherr with her money because as I've just worked out for myself Southampton doesn't have any money unless she gives it to us.
Southampton just purchased a couple of players costing a lot of money did the club use its own money. Oh silly me again we've already established it has not money of its own, maybe you bought them? Well somebody had to give the nearly 20mill to bring them so who exactly was it gave that money then? That's right Monte by now even you should be getting the picture - it was Katharina's money every last single penny of it. Feel big about making such a fool of yourself now - you should. I hope for your sake she doesn't take your abuse too personally and decide she doesn't want you or your twisted bile on her business premises. Run it all over in your mind and then see if you can come on here man up and be a little more grateful and humble toward the lady who is funding everything to do with our club with her own money.
does anyone else thing that its this sort of news that should be on the offical site now. It's embarrassing that fans are left hanging.
SPOT ON EPSOM SAINT
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I have to take issue with this idea that Liebherr has invested massively in this club. She hasnt. Arguably most of the investment was made by her father, or provided for by him, and I refer to the training facilities in particular. She has no interest in the club, never did and that is why Cortese left. Time for Saints fans to wake up smell the coffee and realize the damage being done to the club. I personally will never forgive her, and I suspect there are thousands who feel the same way. The question is will she have the gall to show her face at St Marys at our first home game?? it would be a bald faced cheek if she did frankly. Time for her to sell the club, she is not wanted here any longer.[/p][/quote]Here's someone who wants her here for as long as she want to keep the club. Maybe what you meant to say before you assumed the right to speak for all Saints fans is that you don't want her here anymore. You have the right not to forgive her for whatever imagined crime it is you are accusing her of. Let me ask you a question please. If Southampton earned £100 pounds today from selling shirts for example, once the supplier has been paid and the taxman has his cut. The rest goes to Southampton FC. Who owns that money? Oh just worked that out for myself - it belongs to Katharina Liebherr every single penny of it. So another question then. If Southampton decides to spend that profit on some new footballs is that a legitimate business investment? Oh, just worked that out for myself too, silly me, of course it is. Wait a minute Southampton doesn't have any money - not a single penny. It actually belongs to the owner, who is..........Katharin a, so, therefore every teabag, toilet roll, pen, phone call, and even the serious stuff such as the wages of who knows how many employees and the contracts for who knows how many local companies are all paid by Katharina Liebherr with her money because as I've just worked out for myself Southampton doesn't have any money unless she gives it to us. Southampton just purchased a couple of players costing a lot of money did the club use its own money. Oh silly me again we've already established it has not money of its own, maybe you bought them? Well somebody had to give the nearly 20mill to bring them so who exactly was it gave that money then? That's right Monte by now even you should be getting the picture - it was Katharina's money every last single penny of it. Feel big about making such a fool of yourself now - you should. I hope for your sake she doesn't take your abuse too personally and decide she doesn't want you or your twisted bile on her business premises. Run it all over in your mind and then see if you can come on here man up and be a little more grateful and humble toward the lady who is funding everything to do with our club with her own money.[/p][/quote]does anyone else thing that its this sort of news that should be on the offical site now. It's embarrassing that fans are left hanging.[/p][/quote]SPOT ON EPSOM SAINT bobby the crane
  • Score: 3

7:23am Sat 26 Jul 14

LeTissLeGod says...

F-off Lovren,my Saints will carry on with or without money grabbing kn-bs like you,roll on the 17th, STID
F-off Lovren,my Saints will carry on with or without money grabbing kn-bs like you,roll on the 17th, STID LeTissLeGod
  • Score: 2

8:09am Sat 26 Jul 14

jls217 says...

bobby the crane wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
M Clarke wrote:
So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.
Who cares about the money in Ms Liebherrs back pocket , all our best players are being sold . Players of Lovren's quality are impossible to replace .
Katarina is laughing all the way to the bank singing lovely jubbly & Marcus must be turning in his grave, I & others posted some time ago comments a bout Asset Stripping , & hey ho here we are left with a team that could only score 1 goal against Bournemouth, well that just about sums it all up, wait until SFC start playing the big boys, what will you lot be posting ‘’then’’ you just can not or don’t want to see the writing on the wall, this club will be sold believe me they may have lots of dosh in the bank but oh no this will not be spent improving the squad it will stay within Katarina’s coffers, come on you brainy posters you must see what is going on here
Of course the money is staying in her coffers - get this into your thick skull - she owns it, it's hers to do whatever she wants with. Every single penny that comes into the club is hers. Got it!

Villa has just dropped its price by 50m and still can't find a buyer no matter how hard they look. I am sure they'll find a buyer at some point but gone are the days wen the billionaires were lining up to buy clubs.
"Players of Lovrens ability are impossible to replace" - I'll whisper this to you gently **** for brains - no he ain't and neither is anyone else including you. Sorry to have to break your self-important little bubble Bobby the crank. Difficult to replace possibly but if he were impossible to replace how would we have unearthed him in the first place? Think it through Nobby or whatever other monikers you use on here.
Something else which strikes me about your post which is a bit silly really is that I have met and worked for asset strippers and watched them and their MO not once have I seen an asset stripper plough as much as a penny into their target, they take the pennies out and the materiels and every thing their buzzard like mentalities can dream up that can be of value no matter how small - Hence the name asset strippers, Perhaps you would like to explain why Katharina has ploughed 20m of her money into players in recent weeks with more to be spent. Why would she do that?
What I see going on is that a business owner is investing large sums of her money into the future of Southampton FC and may well be taking an undisclosed amount to put into her private account - that's what capitalism is all about ****. I suspect there is the little rat of envy gnawing away at the remains of your brain, you can't have it so why should she - Is that what it is sad little person?
Wonder how much money you have invested in this or any other club? Or anywhere else for that matter. How much return do you expect to get from that investment? Let me help you with this one because this is probably the only thing you and I are likely to have in common, the answer is AS MUCH AS I CAN GET. If you try to tell me otherwise I'll add liar to all the other insults I could think of for someone who's sole remaining brain cell must getting lonely about now. Nobody invests money to lost money - if they tried it would be called a charity or a hobby not a business.
If she decides she is not making the money she wants or she is just hacked with village idjits such as yourself she may well want to sell the club on - if she can find a buyer (as we've already seen they are thin on the ground since fair play started). When she gets fed up with her car she can do the same, or her house or anything which belongs to her and she owns the club in the same way that you put something you own on ebay to sell it on. Her club - her money - her profits - her decision. Have I made it simple enough for you.
Our best players are not being sold because of any order from on high they are being sold because they are demanding to be sold so they can make money elsewhere. One or two of them, being the real solid pros they are, have thrown their dollies out and refused to soldier on to fulfill their contracts - just gone on strike, can you imagine that? If you want to snipe at someone maybe you should start at the players. They have all decided to move somewhere else, the club (which means Katharina because it's hers) has decided to make whatever they can from a bad situation to try to make it better and demanded a high price for those players to move on. I expect there will be a couple more to go and at the end of this next season the big boys will come in and turn the heads of a couple more who have shone throughout the season - that's the modern business of football matey - you don't have to like it but it would help if you tried to understand it. Now go away and count the change in your pocket and leave Ms Liebherr to count the millions she is entitled to take out of Southampton whenever it **** well pleases her to do so and to spend it in any way she wants. I am delighted to have her as an owner and making money for as long as she is keeping Saints afloat and providing a couple of hundred people in this area with work.
[quote][p][bold]bobby the crane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M Clarke[/bold] wrote: So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.[/p][/quote]Who cares about the money in Ms Liebherrs back pocket , all our best players are being sold . Players of Lovren's quality are impossible to replace .[/p][/quote]Katarina is laughing all the way to the bank singing lovely jubbly & Marcus must be turning in his grave, I & others posted some time ago comments a bout Asset Stripping , & hey ho here we are left with a team that could only score 1 goal against Bournemouth, well that just about sums it all up, wait until SFC start playing the big boys, what will you lot be posting ‘’then’’ you just can not or don’t want to see the writing on the wall, this club will be sold believe me they may have lots of dosh in the bank but oh no this will not be spent improving the squad it will stay within Katarina’s coffers, come on you brainy posters you must see what is going on here[/p][/quote]Of course the money is staying in her coffers - get this into your thick skull - she owns it, it's hers to do whatever she wants with. Every single penny that comes into the club is hers. Got it! Villa has just dropped its price by 50m and still can't find a buyer no matter how hard they look. I am sure they'll find a buyer at some point but gone are the days wen the billionaires were lining up to buy clubs. "Players of Lovrens ability are impossible to replace" - I'll whisper this to you gently **** for brains - no he ain't and neither is anyone else including you. Sorry to have to break your self-important little bubble Bobby the crank. Difficult to replace possibly but if he were impossible to replace how would we have unearthed him in the first place? Think it through Nobby or whatever other monikers you use on here. Something else which strikes me about your post which is a bit silly really is that I have met and worked for asset strippers and watched them and their MO not once have I seen an asset stripper plough as much as a penny into their target, they take the pennies out and the materiels and every thing their buzzard like mentalities can dream up that can be of value no matter how small - Hence the name asset strippers, Perhaps you would like to explain why Katharina has ploughed 20m of her money into players in recent weeks with more to be spent. Why would she do that? What I see going on is that a business owner is investing large sums of her money into the future of Southampton FC and may well be taking an undisclosed amount to put into her private account - that's what capitalism is all about ****. I suspect there is the little rat of envy gnawing away at the remains of your brain, you can't have it so why should she - Is that what it is sad little person? Wonder how much money you have invested in this or any other club? Or anywhere else for that matter. How much return do you expect to get from that investment? Let me help you with this one because this is probably the only thing you and I are likely to have in common, the answer is AS MUCH AS I CAN GET. If you try to tell me otherwise I'll add liar to all the other insults I could think of for someone who's sole remaining brain cell must getting lonely about now. Nobody invests money to lost money - if they tried it would be called a charity or a hobby not a business. If she decides she is not making the money she wants or she is just hacked with village idjits such as yourself she may well want to sell the club on - if she can find a buyer (as we've already seen they are thin on the ground since fair play started). When she gets fed up with her car she can do the same, or her house or anything which belongs to her and she owns the club in the same way that you put something you own on ebay to sell it on. Her club - her money - her profits - her decision. Have I made it simple enough for you. Our best players are not being sold because of any order from on high they are being sold because they are demanding to be sold so they can make money elsewhere. One or two of them, being the real solid pros they are, have thrown their dollies out and refused to soldier on to fulfill their contracts - just gone on strike, can you imagine that? If you want to snipe at someone maybe you should start at the players. They have all decided to move somewhere else, the club (which means Katharina because it's hers) has decided to make whatever they can from a bad situation to try to make it better and demanded a high price for those players to move on. I expect there will be a couple more to go and at the end of this next season the big boys will come in and turn the heads of a couple more who have shone throughout the season - that's the modern business of football matey - you don't have to like it but it would help if you tried to understand it. Now go away and count the change in your pocket and leave Ms Liebherr to count the millions she is entitled to take out of Southampton whenever it **** well pleases her to do so and to spend it in any way she wants. I am delighted to have her as an owner and making money for as long as she is keeping Saints afloat and providing a couple of hundred people in this area with work. jls217
  • Score: -6

8:14am Sat 26 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
jls217 wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I have to take issue with this idea that Liebherr has invested massively in this club. She hasnt. Arguably most of the investment was made by her father, or provided for by him, and I refer to the training facilities in particular. She has no interest in the club, never did and that is why Cortese left. Time for Saints fans to wake up smell the coffee and realize the damage being done to the club. I personally will never forgive her, and I suspect there are thousands who feel the same way. The question is will she have the gall to show her face at St Marys at our first home game?? it would be a bald faced cheek if she did frankly. Time for her to sell the club, she is not wanted here any longer.
Here's someone who wants her here for as long as she want to keep the club. Maybe what you meant to say before you assumed the right to speak for all Saints fans is that you don't want her here anymore. You have the right not to forgive her for whatever imagined crime it is you are accusing her of.
Let me ask you a question please. If Southampton earned £100 pounds today from selling shirts for example, once the supplier has been paid and the taxman has his cut. The rest goes to Southampton FC. Who owns that money?
Oh just worked that out for myself - it belongs to Katharina Liebherr every single penny of it.
So another question then. If Southampton decides to spend that profit on some new footballs is that a legitimate business investment?
Oh, just worked that out for myself too, silly me, of course it is. Wait a minute Southampton doesn't have any money - not a single penny. It actually belongs to the owner, who is..........Katharin


a, so, therefore every teabag, toilet roll, pen, phone call, and even the serious stuff such as the wages of who knows how many employees and the contracts for who knows how many local companies are all paid by Katharina Liebherr with her money because as I've just worked out for myself Southampton doesn't have any money unless she gives it to us.
Southampton just purchased a couple of players costing a lot of money did the club use its own money. Oh silly me again we've already established it has not money of its own, maybe you bought them? Well somebody had to give the nearly 20mill to bring them so who exactly was it gave that money then? That's right Monte by now even you should be getting the picture - it was Katharina's money every last single penny of it. Feel big about making such a fool of yourself now - you should. I hope for your sake she doesn't take your abuse too personally and decide she doesn't want you or your twisted bile on her business premises. Run it all over in your mind and then see if you can come on here man up and be a little more grateful and humble toward the lady who is funding everything to do with our club with her own money.
does anyone else thing that its this sort of news that should be on the offical site now. It's embarrassing that fans are left hanging.
I should have added that just occasionally there is a so called fan who pops his head up who it would be quite a pleasant thought to leave hanging. And that SHOULD be the sort of news on the official site.
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I have to take issue with this idea that Liebherr has invested massively in this club. She hasnt. Arguably most of the investment was made by her father, or provided for by him, and I refer to the training facilities in particular. She has no interest in the club, never did and that is why Cortese left. Time for Saints fans to wake up smell the coffee and realize the damage being done to the club. I personally will never forgive her, and I suspect there are thousands who feel the same way. The question is will she have the gall to show her face at St Marys at our first home game?? it would be a bald faced cheek if she did frankly. Time for her to sell the club, she is not wanted here any longer.[/p][/quote]Here's someone who wants her here for as long as she want to keep the club. Maybe what you meant to say before you assumed the right to speak for all Saints fans is that you don't want her here anymore. You have the right not to forgive her for whatever imagined crime it is you are accusing her of. Let me ask you a question please. If Southampton earned £100 pounds today from selling shirts for example, once the supplier has been paid and the taxman has his cut. The rest goes to Southampton FC. Who owns that money? Oh just worked that out for myself - it belongs to Katharina Liebherr every single penny of it. So another question then. If Southampton decides to spend that profit on some new footballs is that a legitimate business investment? Oh, just worked that out for myself too, silly me, of course it is. Wait a minute Southampton doesn't have any money - not a single penny. It actually belongs to the owner, who is..........Katharin a, so, therefore every teabag, toilet roll, pen, phone call, and even the serious stuff such as the wages of who knows how many employees and the contracts for who knows how many local companies are all paid by Katharina Liebherr with her money because as I've just worked out for myself Southampton doesn't have any money unless she gives it to us. Southampton just purchased a couple of players costing a lot of money did the club use its own money. Oh silly me again we've already established it has not money of its own, maybe you bought them? Well somebody had to give the nearly 20mill to bring them so who exactly was it gave that money then? That's right Monte by now even you should be getting the picture - it was Katharina's money every last single penny of it. Feel big about making such a fool of yourself now - you should. I hope for your sake she doesn't take your abuse too personally and decide she doesn't want you or your twisted bile on her business premises. Run it all over in your mind and then see if you can come on here man up and be a little more grateful and humble toward the lady who is funding everything to do with our club with her own money.[/p][/quote]does anyone else thing that its this sort of news that should be on the offical site now. It's embarrassing that fans are left hanging.[/p][/quote]I should have added that just occasionally there is a so called fan who pops his head up who it would be quite a pleasant thought to leave hanging. And that SHOULD be the sort of news on the official site. jls217
  • Score: -7

8:25am Sat 26 Jul 14

jls217 says...

costa gaz wrote:
mr miyagi wrote:
OK. Throughout this whole sorry episode, I have not commented about the comings and goings (mainly goings) at Saints, but enough is enough. I have just seen on Sky that Arsenal are closing in on Calum Chambers for a reported £16m. This is a player with limited first team experience for £16m! What the f*ck is going on. With Lambert, Llanana & Lovren to Liverpool, Shaw to Man U, Chambers to Arsenal and possibly Schneiderlin to Arsenal or Spurs. Also Clyne, Rodriguez and Fonte have been mentioned as possible departures, that would make up to 9 players leaving, with arguably 8 of them as first team players.

How can the board of a club that finished 8th last season allow this to happen, when they should be building on that success. In all my years I have never witnessed such a potential demolition of a club. I firmly blame Ralph Kruger and Les Reed, as I see them as the sole decision makers in this process, particularly for coming out and stating there would not be a fire sale and no star players will be sold. Liars.

I know if a player wants to leave, you will struggle to stop that, but could they not be sold a vision that they must have been sold by the previous regime. No disrespect to Villa, who have struggled for the last two or three seasons, but they say hands off and thats that, end of story. We say hands off and the next thing we know the player has been sold.

We will run out of time to buy any suitable replacements, if any, and start the season fielding a young inexperienced team, like Villa did, and take some beatings. On top of that, how can we expect to attract any big players in, the first question they will ask is 'Why is everyone leaving? Thanks but no thanks'. Pelle and Tadic probably only signed because they knew the boss, but that stream will dry up pretty quickly, or do we become Feyanoord on the coast? Season starts in three weeks, but our last signing was two weeks ago, apart from the young goalie from Torquay.

I am really fearful of next season, particularly if the kids get thrown in. I think it will have a detrimental impact on the Academy, but really hope it don't come to that.
Superb post.
No attempt to keep any players. Sure they still would have gone, but a little tempter might have swayed a couple.
All the board saw were $ signs and plenty of them.
What evidence do you have for that statement? You were not privy to any emails, phone calls, texts or any other form of communication, or were you?
Maybe you went daily to the board room to witness the discussion between agents and management, is that where you got the info?

So just how did you come by the "Facts" you quote above please inform us so that we can consult you and your inside knowledge again thereby making this forum unnecessary because we have Boasta Gaz on the inside and confidante of the players, board, management and programme sellers as our very own, "In the know" and go to person. Really grateful you're passing all this info down to us Costa Waz - we'd be lost without you.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr miyagi[/bold] wrote: OK. Throughout this whole sorry episode, I have not commented about the comings and goings (mainly goings) at Saints, but enough is enough. I have just seen on Sky that Arsenal are closing in on Calum Chambers for a reported £16m. This is a player with limited first team experience for £16m! What the f*ck is going on. With Lambert, Llanana & Lovren to Liverpool, Shaw to Man U, Chambers to Arsenal and possibly Schneiderlin to Arsenal or Spurs. Also Clyne, Rodriguez and Fonte have been mentioned as possible departures, that would make up to 9 players leaving, with arguably 8 of them as first team players. How can the board of a club that finished 8th last season allow this to happen, when they should be building on that success. In all my years I have never witnessed such a potential demolition of a club. I firmly blame Ralph Kruger and Les Reed, as I see them as the sole decision makers in this process, particularly for coming out and stating there would not be a fire sale and no star players will be sold. Liars. I know if a player wants to leave, you will struggle to stop that, but could they not be sold a vision that they must have been sold by the previous regime. No disrespect to Villa, who have struggled for the last two or three seasons, but they say hands off and thats that, end of story. We say hands off and the next thing we know the player has been sold. We will run out of time to buy any suitable replacements, if any, and start the season fielding a young inexperienced team, like Villa did, and take some beatings. On top of that, how can we expect to attract any big players in, the first question they will ask is 'Why is everyone leaving? Thanks but no thanks'. Pelle and Tadic probably only signed because they knew the boss, but that stream will dry up pretty quickly, or do we become Feyanoord on the coast? Season starts in three weeks, but our last signing was two weeks ago, apart from the young goalie from Torquay. I am really fearful of next season, particularly if the kids get thrown in. I think it will have a detrimental impact on the Academy, but really hope it don't come to that.[/p][/quote]Superb post. No attempt to keep any players. Sure they still would have gone, but a little tempter might have swayed a couple. All the board saw were $ signs and plenty of them.[/p][/quote]What evidence do you have for that statement? You were not privy to any emails, phone calls, texts or any other form of communication, or were you? Maybe you went daily to the board room to witness the discussion between agents and management, is that where you got the info? So just how did you come by the "Facts" you quote above please inform us so that we can consult you and your inside knowledge again thereby making this forum unnecessary because we have Boasta Gaz on the inside and confidante of the players, board, management and programme sellers as our very own, "In the know" and go to person. Really grateful you're passing all this info down to us Costa Waz - we'd be lost without you. jls217
  • Score: -7

8:47am Sat 26 Jul 14

mack chinnon says...

I blame the pasta eating surrender monkey.
I blame the pasta eating surrender monkey. mack chinnon
  • Score: 0

9:01am Sat 26 Jul 14

Saint Anubis says...

Hmm all going well with the last saints signing

http://www.liverpool
fc.com/news/latest-n
ews/167183-adam-lall
ana-to-miss-start-of
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Hmm all going well with the last saints signing http://www.liverpool fc.com/news/latest-n ews/167183-adam-lall ana-to-miss-start-of -season Saint Anubis
  • Score: 1

9:09am Sat 26 Jul 14

NewForestStu says...

Rising_Son wrote:
NewForestStu wrote:
Steve_N wrote:
bathsaints wrote:
Was one of our standout players last season. It makes good sense in terms of the fee and we only want players who are committed to the club but what the flip is driving all these players away, surely we have ambition and surely we have a bit of money to pay wages etc so what is it that is driving them away. I hope Big Ron is allowed to splash the cash and 2 good centre backs please...Fonte is a better player alongside a class CB but I wouldn't fancy him and Hoover lining up at anfield in 3 weeks. Come on Les bring in Vlaar and Van Dijk....
I'll tell you what's driving (I would actually use the word luring) players away - astronomical wages which we will not (cannot?) pay and the lure of Champions League Football. OK so Man U are not in the CL this coming season, but does anyone really think they won't be there again in a few seasons, if not the one after next?
I for one do not want to see us paying wages that we cannot sustain and, god forbid, end up like that lot at the dodgy end of the M27.
Like it or not, we cannot compete with Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal - at least not until we have a stadium with a capacity of at least 45000 and are regularly selling out home matches at that level.
I have been supporting Saints for over 40 years and I'd love to see us up there with the big boys but I'm afraid money dictates and whilst we may have taken a lot in transfer fees in the last month, it ain't nothing compared to what the top clubs are able to spend on transfer fees and wages.
Whatever happens I will always support THE SAINTS
STID
To be fair, even if we had a 45,0000 capacity stadium selling out every game it would not make a difference. Money through the turnstiles is so smallfry now it pales into nothing. The amounts Utd earn from plastics buying shirts abroad far outweighs ticket sales. I have travelled many countries such and everywhere there are Utd shirts, posters and billboards etc. Even recently posters of Rooney and Van Persie everywhere. The only thing clubs that can compete are Cheski, City etc and only because their owners are minted and happy to tonk that amount of cash.

Saints will never be able to compete. As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four. Just impresses me all the more how bloxdy well Everton do each year. I would love for them or a similar club to upset the top four.

We were onto a good thing last year yet so far from the top table it is untrue.

I would love to see the day when sky go bust and the whole game goes belly up. Never happen tho
If you believe that "As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four". Why do you direct so much bile at the club and its owner?
Excuse me?

Sorry, If by suggesting we are selling all our best talent and appear not to be able to resist any offers then yes, i am guilty as charged of, as you suggest 'directing bile at the club and owner'. Please tell me why is it tho that a club such as Everton are able to make top 6 most years yet we dont ever see their squad being ripped apart? Correct me if i am wrong but i dont believe BK has huge wealth?

Do you honestly think we cannot resist any offers for our players? Surely with 5 top players now gone we should be saying no more......that is before MS and anyone else follows CC and DL out the door.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NewForestStu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve_N[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: Was one of our standout players last season. It makes good sense in terms of the fee and we only want players who are committed to the club but what the flip is driving all these players away, surely we have ambition and surely we have a bit of money to pay wages etc so what is it that is driving them away. I hope Big Ron is allowed to splash the cash and 2 good centre backs please...Fonte is a better player alongside a class CB but I wouldn't fancy him and Hoover lining up at anfield in 3 weeks. Come on Les bring in Vlaar and Van Dijk....[/p][/quote]I'll tell you what's driving (I would actually use the word luring) players away - astronomical wages which we will not (cannot?) pay and the lure of Champions League Football. OK so Man U are not in the CL this coming season, but does anyone really think they won't be there again in a few seasons, if not the one after next? I for one do not want to see us paying wages that we cannot sustain and, god forbid, end up like that lot at the dodgy end of the M27. Like it or not, we cannot compete with Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal - at least not until we have a stadium with a capacity of at least 45000 and are regularly selling out home matches at that level. I have been supporting Saints for over 40 years and I'd love to see us up there with the big boys but I'm afraid money dictates and whilst we may have taken a lot in transfer fees in the last month, it ain't nothing compared to what the top clubs are able to spend on transfer fees and wages. Whatever happens I will always support THE SAINTS STID[/p][/quote]To be fair, even if we had a 45,0000 capacity stadium selling out every game it would not make a difference. Money through the turnstiles is so smallfry now it pales into nothing. The amounts Utd earn from plastics buying shirts abroad far outweighs ticket sales. I have travelled many countries such and everywhere there are Utd shirts, posters and billboards etc. Even recently posters of Rooney and Van Persie everywhere. The only thing clubs that can compete are Cheski, City etc and only because their owners are minted and happy to tonk that amount of cash. Saints will never be able to compete. As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four. Just impresses me all the more how bloxdy well Everton do each year. I would love for them or a similar club to upset the top four. We were onto a good thing last year yet so far from the top table it is untrue. I would love to see the day when sky go bust and the whole game goes belly up. Never happen tho[/p][/quote]If you believe that "As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four". Why do you direct so much bile at the club and its owner?[/p][/quote]Excuse me? Sorry, If by suggesting we are selling all our best talent and appear not to be able to resist any offers then yes, i am guilty as charged of, as you suggest 'directing bile at the club and owner'. Please tell me why is it tho that a club such as Everton are able to make top 6 most years yet we dont ever see their squad being ripped apart? Correct me if i am wrong but i dont believe BK has huge wealth? Do you honestly think we cannot resist any offers for our players? Surely with 5 top players now gone we should be saying no more......that is before MS and anyone else follows CC and DL out the door. NewForestStu
  • Score: 4

9:14am Sat 26 Jul 14

Blackknight says...

Dear Mr Les Reed,

If we re not a selling club how come we have sold or are about to sell well over £100 million pounds worth of players? Ah yes all to be re-invested into the club £20m so far on just two players.

The maths doesn't quite add up somehow does it.
Dear Mr Les Reed, If we re not a selling club how come we have sold or are about to sell well over £100 million pounds worth of players? Ah yes all to be re-invested into the club £20m so far on just two players. The maths doesn't quite add up somehow does it. Blackknight
  • Score: 10

9:34am Sat 26 Jul 14

Simmo13 says...

SaintSherman wrote:
With a further £20 million in the Southampton bank there is more then enough to replace Lovren. Despite the fact that the time is running out before the season starts it's vital to get in the right players for the right price.
Every player is replaceable especially those with a poor attitude, we go again next season and with Koeman in charge I have full faith he can build a competitive team.
So how long do we have to wait are you joking !!
[quote][p][bold]SaintSherman[/bold] wrote: With a further £20 million in the Southampton bank there is more then enough to replace Lovren. Despite the fact that the time is running out before the season starts it's vital to get in the right players for the right price. Every player is replaceable especially those with a poor attitude, we go again next season and with Koeman in charge I have full faith he can build a competitive team.[/p][/quote]So how long do we have to wait are you joking !! Simmo13
  • Score: 1

9:48am Sat 26 Jul 14

baldcoot says...

M Clarke wrote:
So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.
They may have been some of our best but the prices we got will go a long way to buying better. Having watched our first new signings play yesterday I'm confident in RK that he knows what he's doing
[quote][p][bold]M Clarke[/bold] wrote: So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.[/p][/quote]They may have been some of our best but the prices we got will go a long way to buying better. Having watched our first new signings play yesterday I'm confident in RK that he knows what he's doing baldcoot
  • Score: -7

10:01am Sat 26 Jul 14

baldcoot says...

saint robbie wrote:
Great deal.
He wanted to leave and saints have made 11.5 million in a year. We should be able to get two decent CBs for that 20 Million and why keep a player who wants to go? He would never give 100% if he stayed and would only cause disrupt.
I have to say that there are still so many negative comments and a lot of people panicking on here for no reason.
As Koeman stated any player who leaves will be replaced with better players, so far this is true apart from a LB where by all accounts the lad Targett is just as good if not better than Shaw.

I for one fully trust the owner, board and manager and believe that we are in a far better position now than we were this time last year.
Totally agree. Target from what I've seen is an awesome left back. Tadik has better movement and a good eye for a pass and pelle has also shown lamberts qualities and then some. I can see us still being a force to be feared and we haven't stopped buying. Just wish I could afford a season ticket
[quote][p][bold]saint robbie[/bold] wrote: Great deal. He wanted to leave and saints have made 11.5 million in a year. We should be able to get two decent CBs for that 20 Million and why keep a player who wants to go? He would never give 100% if he stayed and would only cause disrupt. I have to say that there are still so many negative comments and a lot of people panicking on here for no reason. As Koeman stated any player who leaves will be replaced with better players, so far this is true apart from a LB where by all accounts the lad Targett is just as good if not better than Shaw. I for one fully trust the owner, board and manager and believe that we are in a far better position now than we were this time last year.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Target from what I've seen is an awesome left back. Tadik has better movement and a good eye for a pass and pelle has also shown lamberts qualities and then some. I can see us still being a force to be feared and we haven't stopped buying. Just wish I could afford a season ticket baldcoot
  • Score: -6

10:21am Sat 26 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

NewForestStu wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
NewForestStu wrote:
Steve_N wrote:
bathsaints wrote:
Was one of our standout players last season. It makes good sense in terms of the fee and we only want players who are committed to the club but what the flip is driving all these players away, surely we have ambition and surely we have a bit of money to pay wages etc so what is it that is driving them away. I hope Big Ron is allowed to splash the cash and 2 good centre backs please...Fonte is a better player alongside a class CB but I wouldn't fancy him and Hoover lining up at anfield in 3 weeks. Come on Les bring in Vlaar and Van Dijk....
I'll tell you what's driving (I would actually use the word luring) players away - astronomical wages which we will not (cannot?) pay and the lure of Champions League Football. OK so Man U are not in the CL this coming season, but does anyone really think they won't be there again in a few seasons, if not the one after next?
I for one do not want to see us paying wages that we cannot sustain and, god forbid, end up like that lot at the dodgy end of the M27.
Like it or not, we cannot compete with Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal - at least not until we have a stadium with a capacity of at least 45000 and are regularly selling out home matches at that level.
I have been supporting Saints for over 40 years and I'd love to see us up there with the big boys but I'm afraid money dictates and whilst we may have taken a lot in transfer fees in the last month, it ain't nothing compared to what the top clubs are able to spend on transfer fees and wages.
Whatever happens I will always support THE SAINTS
STID
To be fair, even if we had a 45,0000 capacity stadium selling out every game it would not make a difference. Money through the turnstiles is so smallfry now it pales into nothing. The amounts Utd earn from plastics buying shirts abroad far outweighs ticket sales. I have travelled many countries such and everywhere there are Utd shirts, posters and billboards etc. Even recently posters of Rooney and Van Persie everywhere. The only thing clubs that can compete are Cheski, City etc and only because their owners are minted and happy to tonk that amount of cash.

Saints will never be able to compete. As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four. Just impresses me all the more how bloxdy well Everton do each year. I would love for them or a similar club to upset the top four.

We were onto a good thing last year yet so far from the top table it is untrue.

I would love to see the day when sky go bust and the whole game goes belly up. Never happen tho
If you believe that "As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four". Why do you direct so much bile at the club and its owner?
Excuse me?

Sorry, If by suggesting we are selling all our best talent and appear not to be able to resist any offers then yes, i am guilty as charged of, as you suggest 'directing bile at the club and owner'. Please tell me why is it tho that a club such as Everton are able to make top 6 most years yet we dont ever see their squad being ripped apart? Correct me if i am wrong but i dont believe BK has huge wealth?

Do you honestly think we cannot resist any offers for our players? Surely with 5 top players now gone we should be saying no more......that is before MS and anyone else follows CC and DL out the door.
Everton lose one or two players a year. They have little chance of rising much above 6th because of that outward 'dribble' of players. We emerged more suddenly and spectacularly and our players attracted more attention, so the flood.

As for resisting offers, I believe we might have been able to do a better job. I don't know how much or how little we resisted, so, unlike you, it seems, I am aware that my opinion is speculation not fact
[quote][p][bold]NewForestStu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NewForestStu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve_N[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: Was one of our standout players last season. It makes good sense in terms of the fee and we only want players who are committed to the club but what the flip is driving all these players away, surely we have ambition and surely we have a bit of money to pay wages etc so what is it that is driving them away. I hope Big Ron is allowed to splash the cash and 2 good centre backs please...Fonte is a better player alongside a class CB but I wouldn't fancy him and Hoover lining up at anfield in 3 weeks. Come on Les bring in Vlaar and Van Dijk....[/p][/quote]I'll tell you what's driving (I would actually use the word luring) players away - astronomical wages which we will not (cannot?) pay and the lure of Champions League Football. OK so Man U are not in the CL this coming season, but does anyone really think they won't be there again in a few seasons, if not the one after next? I for one do not want to see us paying wages that we cannot sustain and, god forbid, end up like that lot at the dodgy end of the M27. Like it or not, we cannot compete with Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal - at least not until we have a stadium with a capacity of at least 45000 and are regularly selling out home matches at that level. I have been supporting Saints for over 40 years and I'd love to see us up there with the big boys but I'm afraid money dictates and whilst we may have taken a lot in transfer fees in the last month, it ain't nothing compared to what the top clubs are able to spend on transfer fees and wages. Whatever happens I will always support THE SAINTS STID[/p][/quote]To be fair, even if we had a 45,0000 capacity stadium selling out every game it would not make a difference. Money through the turnstiles is so smallfry now it pales into nothing. The amounts Utd earn from plastics buying shirts abroad far outweighs ticket sales. I have travelled many countries such and everywhere there are Utd shirts, posters and billboards etc. Even recently posters of Rooney and Van Persie everywhere. The only thing clubs that can compete are Cheski, City etc and only because their owners are minted and happy to tonk that amount of cash. Saints will never be able to compete. As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four. Just impresses me all the more how bloxdy well Everton do each year. I would love for them or a similar club to upset the top four. We were onto a good thing last year yet so far from the top table it is untrue. I would love to see the day when sky go bust and the whole game goes belly up. Never happen tho[/p][/quote]If you believe that "As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four". Why do you direct so much bile at the club and its owner?[/p][/quote]Excuse me? Sorry, If by suggesting we are selling all our best talent and appear not to be able to resist any offers then yes, i am guilty as charged of, as you suggest 'directing bile at the club and owner'. Please tell me why is it tho that a club such as Everton are able to make top 6 most years yet we dont ever see their squad being ripped apart? Correct me if i am wrong but i dont believe BK has huge wealth? Do you honestly think we cannot resist any offers for our players? Surely with 5 top players now gone we should be saying no more......that is before MS and anyone else follows CC and DL out the door.[/p][/quote]Everton lose one or two players a year. They have little chance of rising much above 6th because of that outward 'dribble' of players. We emerged more suddenly and spectacularly and our players attracted more attention, so the flood. As for resisting offers, I believe we might have been able to do a better job. I don't know how much or how little we resisted, so, unlike you, it seems, I am aware that my opinion is speculation not fact Rising_Son
  • Score: -8

10:22am Sat 26 Jul 14

andysaints007 says...

Bye bye £12m profit in one year - result
Bye bye £12m profit in one year - result andysaints007
  • Score: -5

10:29am Sat 26 Jul 14

baldcoot says...

jasons odd wrote:
Saintnick71 wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
Saintnick71 wrote:
Just remember without the liebherrs we would be lucky to be playing the pompey scum next season! Have faith in RK look what he did in the Netherlands. Bring on the players who want to play for the club and manager!
Correction - ' without MARCUS liebherr we would be....'

Katherina liebherr has no interest in football or our football club , the best thing for everyone is for Ms Liebherr to sell.

As for Koeman ? What did he do in the Netherlands ??? Not a lot if you look at his record
Think you will find he took a team that finished 11th to 2nd, 3rd and 2nd in three seasons! More than happy with that!
Its Holland . Feyenoord are one of 'the big 3 ' ...With their resources compared to the rest of the league , top 3 is a minimum requirement

Check out his 2 managerial forays into foreign Leagues ....Both times sacked within the year
Have you even watched any of the friendlies. From what I've watched as a true supporter are some awesome replacements and academy players that are not only playing with the flair we had last season but more intent on scoring without trying to walk the ball into the net, the defence already looks tight. More replacements yet to come at the right price and not panic buying just going for quality. But apparently you don't think RK is good enough. Get a grip and try getting behind the club that you profess to support.
[quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintnick71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintnick71[/bold] wrote: Just remember without the liebherrs we would be lucky to be playing the pompey scum next season! Have faith in RK look what he did in the Netherlands. Bring on the players who want to play for the club and manager![/p][/quote]Correction - ' without MARCUS liebherr we would be....' Katherina liebherr has no interest in football or our football club , the best thing for everyone is for Ms Liebherr to sell. As for Koeman ? What did he do in the Netherlands ??? Not a lot if you look at his record[/p][/quote]Think you will find he took a team that finished 11th to 2nd, 3rd and 2nd in three seasons! More than happy with that![/p][/quote]Its Holland . Feyenoord are one of 'the big 3 ' ...With their resources compared to the rest of the league , top 3 is a minimum requirement Check out his 2 managerial forays into foreign Leagues ....Both times sacked within the year[/p][/quote]Have you even watched any of the friendlies. From what I've watched as a true supporter are some awesome replacements and academy players that are not only playing with the flair we had last season but more intent on scoring without trying to walk the ball into the net, the defence already looks tight. More replacements yet to come at the right price and not panic buying just going for quality. But apparently you don't think RK is good enough. Get a grip and try getting behind the club that you profess to support. baldcoot
  • Score: 5

10:34am Sat 26 Jul 14

Forest Saint says...

Egomaniac wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.
Then you've answered your own question. If any money (any at all) comes into the club then it is all hers, to do with as she **** well pleases and doesn't need your permission or NC's or anyone else blessing to use it any way she wishes. If as little as one pound of that money goes on the club then it is her investing it. Her money paying for the lights, her paying for the loans, her paying for the training facilities, her paying a lot of people a monthly wage in Southampton. With the attitude of some of you I would even forgive her for saying enough is enough, not a penny more selling it all off and going where she might get some respect and appreciation. What an ungrateful bunch of arseholes some of you are.
Very well said jls217! Spot on!
I can't wait for her to move on!
[quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.[/p][/quote]Then you've answered your own question. If any money (any at all) comes into the club then it is all hers, to do with as she **** well pleases and doesn't need your permission or NC's or anyone else blessing to use it any way she wishes. If as little as one pound of that money goes on the club then it is her investing it. Her money paying for the lights, her paying for the loans, her paying for the training facilities, her paying a lot of people a monthly wage in Southampton. With the attitude of some of you I would even forgive her for saying enough is enough, not a penny more selling it all off and going where she might get some respect and appreciation. What an ungrateful bunch of arseholes some of you are.[/p][/quote]Very well said jls217! Spot on![/p][/quote]I can't wait for her to move on! Forest Saint
  • Score: 11

10:43am Sat 26 Jul 14

NewForestStu says...

Rising_Son wrote:
NewForestStu wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
NewForestStu wrote:
Steve_N wrote:
bathsaints wrote:
Was one of our standout players last season. It makes good sense in terms of the fee and we only want players who are committed to the club but what the flip is driving all these players away, surely we have ambition and surely we have a bit of money to pay wages etc so what is it that is driving them away. I hope Big Ron is allowed to splash the cash and 2 good centre backs please...Fonte is a better player alongside a class CB but I wouldn't fancy him and Hoover lining up at anfield in 3 weeks. Come on Les bring in Vlaar and Van Dijk....
I'll tell you what's driving (I would actually use the word luring) players away - astronomical wages which we will not (cannot?) pay and the lure of Champions League Football. OK so Man U are not in the CL this coming season, but does anyone really think they won't be there again in a few seasons, if not the one after next?
I for one do not want to see us paying wages that we cannot sustain and, god forbid, end up like that lot at the dodgy end of the M27.
Like it or not, we cannot compete with Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal - at least not until we have a stadium with a capacity of at least 45000 and are regularly selling out home matches at that level.
I have been supporting Saints for over 40 years and I'd love to see us up there with the big boys but I'm afraid money dictates and whilst we may have taken a lot in transfer fees in the last month, it ain't nothing compared to what the top clubs are able to spend on transfer fees and wages.
Whatever happens I will always support THE SAINTS
STID
To be fair, even if we had a 45,0000 capacity stadium selling out every game it would not make a difference. Money through the turnstiles is so smallfry now it pales into nothing. The amounts Utd earn from plastics buying shirts abroad far outweighs ticket sales. I have travelled many countries such and everywhere there are Utd shirts, posters and billboards etc. Even recently posters of Rooney and Van Persie everywhere. The only thing clubs that can compete are Cheski, City etc and only because their owners are minted and happy to tonk that amount of cash.

Saints will never be able to compete. As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four. Just impresses me all the more how bloxdy well Everton do each year. I would love for them or a similar club to upset the top four.

We were onto a good thing last year yet so far from the top table it is untrue.

I would love to see the day when sky go bust and the whole game goes belly up. Never happen tho
If you believe that "As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four". Why do you direct so much bile at the club and its owner?
Excuse me?

Sorry, If by suggesting we are selling all our best talent and appear not to be able to resist any offers then yes, i am guilty as charged of, as you suggest 'directing bile at the club and owner'. Please tell me why is it tho that a club such as Everton are able to make top 6 most years yet we dont ever see their squad being ripped apart? Correct me if i am wrong but i dont believe BK has huge wealth?

Do you honestly think we cannot resist any offers for our players? Surely with 5 top players now gone we should be saying no more......that is before MS and anyone else follows CC and DL out the door.
Everton lose one or two players a year. They have little chance of rising much above 6th because of that outward 'dribble' of players. We emerged more suddenly and spectacularly and our players attracted more attention, so the flood.

As for resisting offers, I believe we might have been able to do a better job. I don't know how much or how little we resisted, so, unlike you, it seems, I am aware that my opinion is speculation not fact
Fair point and i concur, yes Everton or a club of that stature are not lkkely to progresd any higher. My point was merely that we are now letting far too much of tbe first team squad go.

I know, i know...if a player wants oug or to better themselves etc. I personally would have liked a categoric hard ball stance after Rickie...if only to make a point. We may well improve overall with the incoming funds but ig is not as easy as nust getting in bodies. The only saving grace is that we dont appear to be panic buying, that said i am concerned that we wont have enough in the tank or time to gel before season is here.

I am concerned and rightly or wrongly the table will prove whether i have been half full or half empty.

Something is not quite right at SFC at the minute (only my opinion) but time time will tell.

I was more hacked off with you at the time thinking i had slagged off KL or the board which i dong believe was warranted.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NewForestStu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NewForestStu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve_N[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: Was one of our standout players last season. It makes good sense in terms of the fee and we only want players who are committed to the club but what the flip is driving all these players away, surely we have ambition and surely we have a bit of money to pay wages etc so what is it that is driving them away. I hope Big Ron is allowed to splash the cash and 2 good centre backs please...Fonte is a better player alongside a class CB but I wouldn't fancy him and Hoover lining up at anfield in 3 weeks. Come on Les bring in Vlaar and Van Dijk....[/p][/quote]I'll tell you what's driving (I would actually use the word luring) players away - astronomical wages which we will not (cannot?) pay and the lure of Champions League Football. OK so Man U are not in the CL this coming season, but does anyone really think they won't be there again in a few seasons, if not the one after next? I for one do not want to see us paying wages that we cannot sustain and, god forbid, end up like that lot at the dodgy end of the M27. Like it or not, we cannot compete with Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal - at least not until we have a stadium with a capacity of at least 45000 and are regularly selling out home matches at that level. I have been supporting Saints for over 40 years and I'd love to see us up there with the big boys but I'm afraid money dictates and whilst we may have taken a lot in transfer fees in the last month, it ain't nothing compared to what the top clubs are able to spend on transfer fees and wages. Whatever happens I will always support THE SAINTS STID[/p][/quote]To be fair, even if we had a 45,0000 capacity stadium selling out every game it would not make a difference. Money through the turnstiles is so smallfry now it pales into nothing. The amounts Utd earn from plastics buying shirts abroad far outweighs ticket sales. I have travelled many countries such and everywhere there are Utd shirts, posters and billboards etc. Even recently posters of Rooney and Van Persie everywhere. The only thing clubs that can compete are Cheski, City etc and only because their owners are minted and happy to tonk that amount of cash. Saints will never be able to compete. As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four. Just impresses me all the more how bloxdy well Everton do each year. I would love for them or a similar club to upset the top four. We were onto a good thing last year yet so far from the top table it is untrue. I would love to see the day when sky go bust and the whole game goes belly up. Never happen tho[/p][/quote]If you believe that "As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four". Why do you direct so much bile at the club and its owner?[/p][/quote]Excuse me? Sorry, If by suggesting we are selling all our best talent and appear not to be able to resist any offers then yes, i am guilty as charged of, as you suggest 'directing bile at the club and owner'. Please tell me why is it tho that a club such as Everton are able to make top 6 most years yet we dont ever see their squad being ripped apart? Correct me if i am wrong but i dont believe BK has huge wealth? Do you honestly think we cannot resist any offers for our players? Surely with 5 top players now gone we should be saying no more......that is before MS and anyone else follows CC and DL out the door.[/p][/quote]Everton lose one or two players a year. They have little chance of rising much above 6th because of that outward 'dribble' of players. We emerged more suddenly and spectacularly and our players attracted more attention, so the flood. As for resisting offers, I believe we might have been able to do a better job. I don't know how much or how little we resisted, so, unlike you, it seems, I am aware that my opinion is speculation not fact[/p][/quote]Fair point and i concur, yes Everton or a club of that stature are not lkkely to progresd any higher. My point was merely that we are now letting far too much of tbe first team squad go. I know, i know...if a player wants oug or to better themselves etc. I personally would have liked a categoric hard ball stance after Rickie...if only to make a point. We may well improve overall with the incoming funds but ig is not as easy as nust getting in bodies. The only saving grace is that we dont appear to be panic buying, that said i am concerned that we wont have enough in the tank or time to gel before season is here. I am concerned and rightly or wrongly the table will prove whether i have been half full or half empty. Something is not quite right at SFC at the minute (only my opinion) but time time will tell. I was more hacked off with you at the time thinking i had slagged off KL or the board which i dong believe was warranted. NewForestStu
  • Score: 5

10:51am Sat 26 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

costa gaz wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.
The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back.
The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides.

We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs.
It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to.
RUBBISH
All of it , part of it?
If it was the loan, just google it and then come back and have a slice of delicious humble pie.
You have no evidence whatsoever that monies are being withdrawn. All the evidence suggests absolutely the opposite. I have been running businesses for over 40 years and been heavily involved in negotiating business finance. The ongoing investment in the club is continuing and new monies or loans (it is still financial backing) have gathered pace. Converting old loans to shares is highly beneficial for the club as it makes the balance sheet much healthier and reduces liabilities, repayment deadlines, interest payments etc. It also demonstrates a great commitment to the clubs future. It is you interpretation of the facts that really bugged me. Then using it to make another attack on the board and brainwash other Saints fans is unforgiveable.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.[/p][/quote]The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back. The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides. We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs. It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to.[/p][/quote]RUBBISH[/p][/quote]All of it , part of it? If it was the loan, just google it and then come back and have a slice of delicious humble pie.[/p][/quote]You have no evidence whatsoever that monies are being withdrawn. All the evidence suggests absolutely the opposite. I have been running businesses for over 40 years and been heavily involved in negotiating business finance. The ongoing investment in the club is continuing and new monies or loans (it is still financial backing) have gathered pace. Converting old loans to shares is highly beneficial for the club as it makes the balance sheet much healthier and reduces liabilities, repayment deadlines, interest payments etc. It also demonstrates a great commitment to the clubs future. It is you interpretation of the facts that really bugged me. Then using it to make another attack on the board and brainwash other Saints fans is unforgiveable. nomorerumours
  • Score: -9

11:02am Sat 26 Jul 14

bullsbags says...

nomorerumours wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.
The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back.
The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides.

We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs.
It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to.
RUBBISH
All of it , part of it?
If it was the loan, just google it and then come back and have a slice of delicious humble pie.
You have no evidence whatsoever that monies are being withdrawn. All the evidence suggests absolutely the opposite. I have been running businesses for over 40 years and been heavily involved in negotiating business finance. The ongoing investment in the club is continuing and new monies or loans (it is still financial backing) have gathered pace. Converting old loans to shares is highly beneficial for the club as it makes the balance sheet much healthier and reduces liabilities, repayment deadlines, interest payments etc. It also demonstrates a great commitment to the clubs future. It is you interpretation of the facts that really bugged me. Then using it to make another attack on the board and brainwash other Saints fans is unforgiveable.
Ah so everything in the garden is rosy then and we are p1ssed of for no good reason then
Condescending knob
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.[/p][/quote]The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back. The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides. We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs. It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to.[/p][/quote]RUBBISH[/p][/quote]All of it , part of it? If it was the loan, just google it and then come back and have a slice of delicious humble pie.[/p][/quote]You have no evidence whatsoever that monies are being withdrawn. All the evidence suggests absolutely the opposite. I have been running businesses for over 40 years and been heavily involved in negotiating business finance. The ongoing investment in the club is continuing and new monies or loans (it is still financial backing) have gathered pace. Converting old loans to shares is highly beneficial for the club as it makes the balance sheet much healthier and reduces liabilities, repayment deadlines, interest payments etc. It also demonstrates a great commitment to the clubs future. It is you interpretation of the facts that really bugged me. Then using it to make another attack on the board and brainwash other Saints fans is unforgiveable.[/p][/quote]Ah so everything in the garden is rosy then and we are p1ssed of for no good reason then Condescending knob bullsbags
  • Score: 12

11:03am Sat 26 Jul 14

jasons odd says...

Forest Saint wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.
Then you've answered your own question. If any money (any at all) comes into the club then it is all hers, to do with as she **** well pleases and doesn't need your permission or NC's or anyone else blessing to use it any way she wishes. If as little as one pound of that money goes on the club then it is her investing it. Her money paying for the lights, her paying for the loans, her paying for the training facilities, her paying a lot of people a monthly wage in Southampton. With the attitude of some of you I would even forgive her for saying enough is enough, not a penny more selling it all off and going where she might get some respect and appreciation. What an ungrateful bunch of arseholes some of you are.
Very well said jls217! Spot on!
I can't wait for her to move on!
Our club CANT move forward until liebherr sells up . She has no interest in football or our club
[quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.[/p][/quote]Then you've answered your own question. If any money (any at all) comes into the club then it is all hers, to do with as she **** well pleases and doesn't need your permission or NC's or anyone else blessing to use it any way she wishes. If as little as one pound of that money goes on the club then it is her investing it. Her money paying for the lights, her paying for the loans, her paying for the training facilities, her paying a lot of people a monthly wage in Southampton. With the attitude of some of you I would even forgive her for saying enough is enough, not a penny more selling it all off and going where she might get some respect and appreciation. What an ungrateful bunch of arseholes some of you are.[/p][/quote]Very well said jls217! Spot on![/p][/quote]I can't wait for her to move on![/p][/quote]Our club CANT move forward until liebherr sells up . She has no interest in football or our club jasons odd
  • Score: 8

11:23am Sat 26 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

bullsbags wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
nomorerumours wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote:
Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?
That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.
I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.
The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back.
The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides.

We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs.
It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to.
RUBBISH
All of it , part of it?
If it was the loan, just google it and then come back and have a slice of delicious humble pie.
You have no evidence whatsoever that monies are being withdrawn. All the evidence suggests absolutely the opposite. I have been running businesses for over 40 years and been heavily involved in negotiating business finance. The ongoing investment in the club is continuing and new monies or loans (it is still financial backing) have gathered pace. Converting old loans to shares is highly beneficial for the club as it makes the balance sheet much healthier and reduces liabilities, repayment deadlines, interest payments etc. It also demonstrates a great commitment to the clubs future. It is you interpretation of the facts that really bugged me. Then using it to make another attack on the board and brainwash other Saints fans is unforgiveable.
Ah so everything in the garden is rosy then and we are p1ssed of for no good reason then
Condescending knob
I GIVE UP - RESORTING TO RUDENESS IS ALMOST ALWAYS A SIGN OF FALIURE TO UNDERSTAND THE FACTS. WHO SAID EVERYTHING WAS ROSY? I ONLY MENTIONED MY BUSINESS BACKGROUND TO TRY AND STOP THIS APPALLING ATTACK ON OUR BOARD WHICH IS 100% UNJUSTIFIED. YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY ONE THOSE WHO HAS BEEN BRAINWASHED. I COULD GO ON BUT I AM NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU ANY MORE OF MY TIME.
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we not sell Ms Liebherr too? Why can't she move on and wreak havoc somewhere else?[/p][/quote]That's a ridiculous thing to say given the money she has invested in this club.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure she's invested personally after her father's initial investments which are loans that have to be repaid sometime. All the recent transfers in are being paid for by transfers out and we are still paying for the training facilities, floodlights, etc.[/p][/quote]The loans -£33m- were converted into shares and does not have to be paid back. The club has a very small manageable debt, smaller than most PL sides. We have one of the PL's richest owners, but that unfortunately does not equate to being one of the PL's richest clubs. It is her choice of whether to invest or not, it seems that she has chosen not to.[/p][/quote]RUBBISH[/p][/quote]All of it , part of it? If it was the loan, just google it and then come back and have a slice of delicious humble pie.[/p][/quote]You have no evidence whatsoever that monies are being withdrawn. All the evidence suggests absolutely the opposite. I have been running businesses for over 40 years and been heavily involved in negotiating business finance. The ongoing investment in the club is continuing and new monies or loans (it is still financial backing) have gathered pace. Converting old loans to shares is highly beneficial for the club as it makes the balance sheet much healthier and reduces liabilities, repayment deadlines, interest payments etc. It also demonstrates a great commitment to the clubs future. It is you interpretation of the facts that really bugged me. Then using it to make another attack on the board and brainwash other Saints fans is unforgiveable.[/p][/quote]Ah so everything in the garden is rosy then and we are p1ssed of for no good reason then Condescending knob[/p][/quote]I GIVE UP - RESORTING TO RUDENESS IS ALMOST ALWAYS A SIGN OF FALIURE TO UNDERSTAND THE FACTS. WHO SAID EVERYTHING WAS ROSY? I ONLY MENTIONED MY BUSINESS BACKGROUND TO TRY AND STOP THIS APPALLING ATTACK ON OUR BOARD WHICH IS 100% UNJUSTIFIED. YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY ONE THOSE WHO HAS BEEN BRAINWASHED. I COULD GO ON BUT I AM NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU ANY MORE OF MY TIME. nomorerumours
  • Score: -4

11:46am Sat 26 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

NewForestStu wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
NewForestStu wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
NewForestStu wrote:
Steve_N wrote:
bathsaints wrote:
Was one of our standout players last season. It makes good sense in terms of the fee and we only want players who are committed to the club but what the flip is driving all these players away, surely we have ambition and surely we have a bit of money to pay wages etc so what is it that is driving them away. I hope Big Ron is allowed to splash the cash and 2 good centre backs please...Fonte is a better player alongside a class CB but I wouldn't fancy him and Hoover lining up at anfield in 3 weeks. Come on Les bring in Vlaar and Van Dijk....
I'll tell you what's driving (I would actually use the word luring) players away - astronomical wages which we will not (cannot?) pay and the lure of Champions League Football. OK so Man U are not in the CL this coming season, but does anyone really think they won't be there again in a few seasons, if not the one after next?
I for one do not want to see us paying wages that we cannot sustain and, god forbid, end up like that lot at the dodgy end of the M27.
Like it or not, we cannot compete with Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal - at least not until we have a stadium with a capacity of at least 45000 and are regularly selling out home matches at that level.
I have been supporting Saints for over 40 years and I'd love to see us up there with the big boys but I'm afraid money dictates and whilst we may have taken a lot in transfer fees in the last month, it ain't nothing compared to what the top clubs are able to spend on transfer fees and wages.
Whatever happens I will always support THE SAINTS
STID
To be fair, even if we had a 45,0000 capacity stadium selling out every game it would not make a difference. Money through the turnstiles is so smallfry now it pales into nothing. The amounts Utd earn from plastics buying shirts abroad far outweighs ticket sales. I have travelled many countries such and everywhere there are Utd shirts, posters and billboards etc. Even recently posters of Rooney and Van Persie everywhere. The only thing clubs that can compete are Cheski, City etc and only because their owners are minted and happy to tonk that amount of cash.

Saints will never be able to compete. As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four. Just impresses me all the more how bloxdy well Everton do each year. I would love for them or a similar club to upset the top four.

We were onto a good thing last year yet so far from the top table it is untrue.

I would love to see the day when sky go bust and the whole game goes belly up. Never happen tho
If you believe that "As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four". Why do you direct so much bile at the club and its owner?
Excuse me?

Sorry, If by suggesting we are selling all our best talent and appear not to be able to resist any offers then yes, i am guilty as charged of, as you suggest 'directing bile at the club and owner'. Please tell me why is it tho that a club such as Everton are able to make top 6 most years yet we dont ever see their squad being ripped apart? Correct me if i am wrong but i dont believe BK has huge wealth?

Do you honestly think we cannot resist any offers for our players? Surely with 5 top players now gone we should be saying no more......that is before MS and anyone else follows CC and DL out the door.
Everton lose one or two players a year. They have little chance of rising much above 6th because of that outward 'dribble' of players. We emerged more suddenly and spectacularly and our players attracted more attention, so the flood.

As for resisting offers, I believe we might have been able to do a better job. I don't know how much or how little we resisted, so, unlike you, it seems, I am aware that my opinion is speculation not fact
Fair point and i concur, yes Everton or a club of that stature are not lkkely to progresd any higher. My point was merely that we are now letting far too much of tbe first team squad go.

I know, i know...if a player wants oug or to better themselves etc. I personally would have liked a categoric hard ball stance after Rickie...if only to make a point. We may well improve overall with the incoming funds but ig is not as easy as nust getting in bodies. The only saving grace is that we dont appear to be panic buying, that said i am concerned that we wont have enough in the tank or time to gel before season is here.

I am concerned and rightly or wrongly the table will prove whether i have been half full or half empty.

Something is not quite right at SFC at the minute (only my opinion) but time time will tell.

I was more hacked off with you at the time thinking i had slagged off KL or the board which i dong believe was warranted.
I think we express ourselves in different ways, even with similar opinions. Although, I must admit was happy for Lambert when he moved, but I am disheartened by the other moves and the continuing rumours. I believe we have more coming in. I find it difficult to give up hope and be dragged down into despair.
[quote][p][bold]NewForestStu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NewForestStu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NewForestStu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve_N[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: Was one of our standout players last season. It makes good sense in terms of the fee and we only want players who are committed to the club but what the flip is driving all these players away, surely we have ambition and surely we have a bit of money to pay wages etc so what is it that is driving them away. I hope Big Ron is allowed to splash the cash and 2 good centre backs please...Fonte is a better player alongside a class CB but I wouldn't fancy him and Hoover lining up at anfield in 3 weeks. Come on Les bring in Vlaar and Van Dijk....[/p][/quote]I'll tell you what's driving (I would actually use the word luring) players away - astronomical wages which we will not (cannot?) pay and the lure of Champions League Football. OK so Man U are not in the CL this coming season, but does anyone really think they won't be there again in a few seasons, if not the one after next? I for one do not want to see us paying wages that we cannot sustain and, god forbid, end up like that lot at the dodgy end of the M27. Like it or not, we cannot compete with Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal - at least not until we have a stadium with a capacity of at least 45000 and are regularly selling out home matches at that level. I have been supporting Saints for over 40 years and I'd love to see us up there with the big boys but I'm afraid money dictates and whilst we may have taken a lot in transfer fees in the last month, it ain't nothing compared to what the top clubs are able to spend on transfer fees and wages. Whatever happens I will always support THE SAINTS STID[/p][/quote]To be fair, even if we had a 45,0000 capacity stadium selling out every game it would not make a difference. Money through the turnstiles is so smallfry now it pales into nothing. The amounts Utd earn from plastics buying shirts abroad far outweighs ticket sales. I have travelled many countries such and everywhere there are Utd shirts, posters and billboards etc. Even recently posters of Rooney and Van Persie everywhere. The only thing clubs that can compete are Cheski, City etc and only because their owners are minted and happy to tonk that amount of cash. Saints will never be able to compete. As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four. Just impresses me all the more how bloxdy well Everton do each year. I would love for them or a similar club to upset the top four. We were onto a good thing last year yet so far from the top table it is untrue. I would love to see the day when sky go bust and the whole game goes belly up. Never happen tho[/p][/quote]If you believe that "As i have said days back, the PL, Sky and and cartel of clubs atvthe top mean there will never be a Saints style club in thd top four". Why do you direct so much bile at the club and its owner?[/p][/quote]Excuse me? Sorry, If by suggesting we are selling all our best talent and appear not to be able to resist any offers then yes, i am guilty as charged of, as you suggest 'directing bile at the club and owner'. Please tell me why is it tho that a club such as Everton are able to make top 6 most years yet we dont ever see their squad being ripped apart? Correct me if i am wrong but i dont believe BK has huge wealth? Do you honestly think we cannot resist any offers for our players? Surely with 5 top players now gone we should be saying no more......that is before MS and anyone else follows CC and DL out the door.[/p][/quote]Everton lose one or two players a year. They have little chance of rising much above 6th because of that outward 'dribble' of players. We emerged more suddenly and spectacularly and our players attracted more attention, so the flood. As for resisting offers, I believe we might have been able to do a better job. I don't know how much or how little we resisted, so, unlike you, it seems, I am aware that my opinion is speculation not fact[/p][/quote]Fair point and i concur, yes Everton or a club of that stature are not lkkely to progresd any higher. My point was merely that we are now letting far too much of tbe first team squad go. I know, i know...if a player wants oug or to better themselves etc. I personally would have liked a categoric hard ball stance after Rickie...if only to make a point. We may well improve overall with the incoming funds but ig is not as easy as nust getting in bodies. The only saving grace is that we dont appear to be panic buying, that said i am concerned that we wont have enough in the tank or time to gel before season is here. I am concerned and rightly or wrongly the table will prove whether i have been half full or half empty. Something is not quite right at SFC at the minute (only my opinion) but time time will tell. I was more hacked off with you at the time thinking i had slagged off KL or the board which i dong believe was warranted.[/p][/quote]I think we express ourselves in different ways, even with similar opinions. Although, I must admit was happy for Lambert when he moved, but I am disheartened by the other moves and the continuing rumours. I believe we have more coming in. I find it difficult to give up hope and be dragged down into despair. Rising_Son
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11:59am Sat 26 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

jls217 wrote:
bobby the crane wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
M Clarke wrote:
So Lovren who likes singing You,ll never walk alone has finally got his wish. I've never known a summer like this with our best players all wanting to leave and still believe the hand of Cortese or MP could be unsettling the players. I agree with RK that we only want players who want to play for us but we do need to get some quality reinforcements in soon or we will have a team of complete strangers for the first match against Liverpool which I would dearly love to win. So come on Saints. We have the money so cheer us up with some good news for a change.
Who cares about the money in Ms Liebherrs back pocket , all our best players are being sold . Players of Lovren's quality are impossible to replace .
Katarina is laughing all the way to the bank singing lovely jubbly & Marcus must be turning in his grave, I & others posted some time ago comments a bout Asset Stripping , & hey ho here we are left with a team that could only score 1 goal against Bournemouth, well that just about sums it all up, wait until SFC start playing the big boys, what will you lot be posting ‘’then’’ you just can not or don’t want to see the writing on the wall, this club will be sold believe me they may have lots of dosh in the bank but oh no this will not be spent improving the squad it will stay within Katarina’s coffers, come on you brainy posters you must see what is going on here
Of course the money is staying in her coffers - get this into your thick skull - she owns it, it's hers to do whatever she wants with. Every single penny that comes into the club is hers. Got it!

Villa has just dropped its price by 50m and still can't find a buyer no matter how hard they look. I am sure they'll find a buyer at some point but gone are the days wen the billionaires were lining up to buy clubs.
"Players of Lovrens ability are impossible to replace" - I'll whisper this to you gently **** for brains - no he ain't and neither is anyone else including you. Sorry to have to break your self-important little bubble Bobby the crank. Difficult to replace possibly but if he were impossible to replace how would we have unearthed him in the first place? Think it through Nobby or whatever other monikers you use on here.
Something else which strikes me about your post which is a bit silly really is that I have met and worked for asset strippers and watched them and their MO not once have I seen an asset stripper plough as much as a penny into their target, they take the pennies out and the materiels and every thing their buzzard like mentalities can dream up that can be of value no matter how small - Hence the name asset strippers, Perhaps you would like to explain why Katharina has ploughed 20m of her money into players in recent weeks with more to be spent. Why would she do that?
What I see going on is that a business owner is investing large sums of her money into the future of Southampton FC and may well be taking an undisclosed amount to put into her private account - that's what capitalism is all about ****. I suspect there is the little rat of envy gnawing away at the remains of your brain, you can't have it so why should she - Is that what it is sad little person?
Wonder how much money you have invested in this or any other club? Or anywhere else for that matter. How much return do you expect to get from that investment? Let me help you with this one because this is probably the only thing you and I are likely to have in common, the answer is AS MUCH AS I CAN GET. If you try to tell me otherwise I'll add liar to all the other insults I could think of for someone who's sole remaining brain cell must getting lonely about now. Nobody invests money to lost money - if they tried it would be called a charity or a hobby not a business.
If she decides she is not making the money she wants or she is just hacked with village idjits such as yourself she may well want to sell the club on - if she can find a buyer (as we've already seen they are thin on the ground since fair play started). When she gets fed up with her car she can do the same, or her house or anything which belongs to her and she owns the club in the same way that you put something you own on ebay to sell it on. Her club - her money - her profits - her decision. Have I made it simple enough for you.
Our best players are not being sold because of any order from on high they are being sold because they are demanding to be sold so they can make money elsewhere. One or two of them, being the real solid pros they are, have thrown their dollies out and refused to soldier on to fulfill their contracts - just gone on strike, can you imagine that? If you want to snipe at someone maybe you should start at the players. They have all decided to move somewhere else, the club (which means Katharina because it's hers) has decided to make whatever they can from a bad situation to try to make it better and demanded a high price for those players to move on. I expect there will be a couple more to go and at the end of this next season the big boys will come in and turn the heads of a couple more who have shone throughout the season - that's the modern business of football matey - you don't have to like it but it would help if you tried to understand it. Now go away and count the change in your pocket and leave Ms Liebherr to count the millions she is entitled to take out of Southampton whenever it **** well pleases her to do so and to spend it in any way she wants. I am delighted to have her as an owner and making money for as long as she is keeping Saints afloat and providing a couple of hundred people in this area with work.
Quite possibly one of the rudest replies ever on here, full of contempt bitterness and bile, complete lack of respect.
Is it any wonder that you get