Morgan's anger after showdown with board

Morgan Schneiderlin

Morgan Schneiderlin

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Saints star Morgan Schneiderlin reacted with anger after being told he will not be sold this summer.

The Daily Echo understands the French midfielder attended a meeting with the club’s board yesterday at which he was informed he will not become the sixth first team star to be sold during this transfer window.

Schneiderlin has informed the board of his desire to leave, with Tottenham and former Saints manager Mauricio Pochettino keen on securing his signature.

The 24-year-old, who has been with Saints since 2008, took to social media shortly after the meeting ended to publically vent his frustrations.

He wrote on Twitter: “6 years of an amazing journey #saintsfc DESTROYED in 1 hour !!!”

Saints are now in a very difficult position.

They have stated very publically that both Schneiderlin and Jay Rodriguez will not be allowed to join Rickie Lambert, Adam Lallana, Luke Shaw, Dejan Lovren and Calum Chambers in leaving St Mary’s.

But Ronald Koeman will have to work hard to get Schneiderlin back on board, with the Frenchman feeling he has earned the chance to move after an extended spell with the club in which he has helped to take Saints back to the Premier League.

In the process, Schneiderlin has become an international footballer and went to the World Cup with France.

In an interview with the Daily Echo earlier in the day, Saints chairman Ralph Krueger was adamant Schneiderlin and Rodriguez would not go.

He said: “Specifically to Rodriguez and Schneiderlin, they will not be going anywhere.

“We see them as part of a core and the core we’ve got right now and in place is a core that is where Ronald would like to go and they a part of that core.

“Any reports that Rodriguez or Schneiderlin are leaving or we are in engaged in transfer conversations are totally off the mark.

“They will not be sold.”

Krueger met representative of Tottenham in Toronto recently but has insisted that was not to discuss any possible transfers.

But with Saints having let five other players go after they made it clear they wished to leave and their price tags were met, holding onto Schneiderlin now risks alienating a key member of the dressing room still further.

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9:38am Wed 30 Jul 14

GX Saint says...

yesterday's news surely?
yesterday's news surely? GX Saint
  • Score: 4

9:39am Wed 30 Jul 14

batesieboy says...

Cut out the cancer...it only spreads.
Cut out the cancer...it only spreads. batesieboy
  • Score: -3

9:49am Wed 30 Jul 14

smuggins says...

Spurs bid £13mil Saints want £27mil. Arsenal bid the same.All the others left because their valuations were met.A no brainer really.
Spurs bid £13mil Saints want £27mil. Arsenal bid the same.All the others left because their valuations were met.A no brainer really. smuggins
  • Score: 10

9:50am Wed 30 Jul 14

ukfazerman says...

you signed a contract, man up and have some honour.
you signed a contract, man up and have some honour. ukfazerman
  • Score: 28

9:53am Wed 30 Jul 14

u bunch of mugs says...

Let the French **** go or give him a smack one of the two ffs.
Let the French **** go or give him a smack one of the two ffs. u bunch of mugs
  • Score: -13

9:55am Wed 30 Jul 14

u bunch of mugs says...

Let the French **** go or give him a smack ffs.
Let the French **** go or give him a smack ffs. u bunch of mugs
  • Score: -14

9:56am Wed 30 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

All I can see is a massive stand off between the club and the player with neither side backing down... it's not going to do either any favours.
All I can see is a massive stand off between the club and the player with neither side backing down... it's not going to do either any favours. costa gaz
  • Score: -7

9:57am Wed 30 Jul 14

St Grange says...

He can sulked all he wants. He doesnt care how much Spurs offered us as long as he got a higher salary there. I doubt Spurs can offer him more football than us given the many midfielders they have and I hate to see any of our players going to strengthen MP's team. Levy will not be kind to him and expect CL next season or else he will kick his **** out. I am sure RK can pacify him and convince him with new better players coming in than those who left. Rojo for Shaw, Vlaar and Vrij for Lovren and possibly Remy on loan? Looking forward to see Targett, Isgrove, Reed, Mc Queen, Sinclair and Prowse in action this season.
He can sulked all he wants. He doesnt care how much Spurs offered us as long as he got a higher salary there. I doubt Spurs can offer him more football than us given the many midfielders they have and I hate to see any of our players going to strengthen MP's team. Levy will not be kind to him and expect CL next season or else he will kick his **** out. I am sure RK can pacify him and convince him with new better players coming in than those who left. Rojo for Shaw, Vlaar and Vrij for Lovren and possibly Remy on loan? Looking forward to see Targett, Isgrove, Reed, Mc Queen, Sinclair and Prowse in action this season. St Grange
  • Score: 14

9:58am Wed 30 Jul 14

ToastyTea says...

you disrespectful w@nker Morgan, money grabber like the rest of em.
you disrespectful w@nker Morgan, money grabber like the rest of em. ToastyTea
  • Score: -1

10:01am Wed 30 Jul 14

Spanish Santo says...

Really Morgan...your greedy agent stitched you up. You should get a new one. We value you at 27 million and the rest want you for 13 million.? You should of been clever and shut up for the time being and at least pretended to be a professional. Now you're going to be alienated and cut a drift just because you had a tantrum. What a great bit of guidance you received. Ask your agent to explain to you redemption...or better still look it up in a dictionary rather than trust him again...he don't love you as we would have done...he just wants to fill his pockets.
Really Morgan...your greedy agent stitched you up. You should get a new one. We value you at 27 million and the rest want you for 13 million.? You should of been clever and shut up for the time being and at least pretended to be a professional. Now you're going to be alienated and cut a drift just because you had a tantrum. What a great bit of guidance you received. Ask your agent to explain to you redemption...or better still look it up in a dictionary rather than trust him again...he don't love you as we would have done...he just wants to fill his pockets. Spanish Santo
  • Score: 9

10:03am Wed 30 Jul 14

curtisaint says...

If we can get 25 million for him let him go he won't be any use to us with that attitude
If we can get 25 million for him let him go he won't be any use to us with that attitude curtisaint
  • Score: -5

10:09am Wed 30 Jul 14

Confucious says...

Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a pitifully low wage and at great cost to his own career progression, the club treats him like this.

And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club.

Perhaps us fans, who were so privileged to have these players entertain us on a pittance, should head to St Marys with "Let Spiderman go!" and "Free Jay Rodriguez" banners.

I feel so guilty that we are keeping Spiderman a prisoner as I know that I'm greatly indebted to him for working so tirelessly for my benefit. No doubt if this goes on and we do not protest, he will lose all of the massive respect and affection he once had for us fans.
Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a pitifully low wage and at great cost to his own career progression, the club treats him like this. And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club. Perhaps us fans, who were so privileged to have these players entertain us on a pittance, should head to St Marys with "Let Spiderman go!" and "Free Jay Rodriguez" banners. I feel so guilty that we are keeping Spiderman a prisoner as I know that I'm greatly indebted to him for working so tirelessly for my benefit. No doubt if this goes on and we do not protest, he will lose all of the massive respect and affection he once had for us fans. Confucious
  • Score: -4

10:18am Wed 30 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Am I wrong in feeling let down by this man. Of all the players we have I would have put my pension on him being the one to do the right thing. Maybe even stayed loyal, which seems to be a dirty word in the modern world.
We were thinking in terms of he might be our next captain for goodness sake.
He is THE player around which the club should be moulded.
We have to hold onto him to placate the fans and because Freddie has insisted so. Maybe the January sales will be the time to unload him. Face saved and a lesson driven home to him.
He may still come to his senses and realize he can be the part of something really promising here again and man up, once he's finished spitting is dummy out.
Am I wrong in feeling let down by this man. Of all the players we have I would have put my pension on him being the one to do the right thing. Maybe even stayed loyal, which seems to be a dirty word in the modern world. We were thinking in terms of he might be our next captain for goodness sake. He is THE player around which the club should be moulded. We have to hold onto him to placate the fans and because Freddie has insisted so. Maybe the January sales will be the time to unload him. Face saved and a lesson driven home to him. He may still come to his senses and realize he can be the part of something really promising here again and man up, once he's finished spitting is dummy out. jls217
  • Score: 12

10:18am Wed 30 Jul 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

It is quite a disgraceful way to deal with the club but in the end if he is under contract then he needs to put in a transfer request if he wants to leave not go spouting off on twitter.
Why do footballers seem to act like spoil brats! They want everything to go their way and are paid ridiculous sums of money as it is.

Morgan is being disrespectful to Koeman for not even giving him a chance to impress him. Unless a Champions League team meets Saints valuation he can stay where he is simple.
It is quite a disgraceful way to deal with the club but in the end if he is under contract then he needs to put in a transfer request if he wants to leave not go spouting off on twitter. Why do footballers seem to act like spoil brats! They want everything to go their way and are paid ridiculous sums of money as it is. Morgan is being disrespectful to Koeman for not even giving him a chance to impress him. Unless a Champions League team meets Saints valuation he can stay where he is simple. allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: -1

10:26am Wed 30 Jul 14

st.ranger says...

Confucious wrote:
Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a pitifully low wage and at great cost to his own career progression, the club treats him like this.

And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club.

Perhaps us fans, who were so privileged to have these players entertain us on a pittance, should head to St Marys with "Let Spiderman go!" and "Free Jay Rodriguez" banners.

I feel so guilty that we are keeping Spiderman a prisoner as I know that I'm greatly indebted to him for working so tirelessly for my benefit. No doubt if this goes on and we do not protest, he will lose all of the massive respect and affection he once had for us fans.
p^$$ orff back to norf lahndan moyt.

25k a week is a pretty good rate, well above championship rates for all of his tenure I suspect. He has gained skills and experience that got him into the French national side because he was playing every week here, (not every third week for different manager like he would at Tottenham) and was at least a potential captain at Saints, and I am sure he is being offered a good extension at a good rate. But if he and his agents can source a deal that is good for the club then he can go, but in the meantime he should not disresepct the fans and the management that got him to this point.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a pitifully low wage and at great cost to his own career progression, the club treats him like this. And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club. Perhaps us fans, who were so privileged to have these players entertain us on a pittance, should head to St Marys with "Let Spiderman go!" and "Free Jay Rodriguez" banners. I feel so guilty that we are keeping Spiderman a prisoner as I know that I'm greatly indebted to him for working so tirelessly for my benefit. No doubt if this goes on and we do not protest, he will lose all of the massive respect and affection he once had for us fans.[/p][/quote]p^$$ orff back to norf lahndan moyt. 25k a week is a pretty good rate, well above championship rates for all of his tenure I suspect. He has gained skills and experience that got him into the French national side because he was playing every week here, (not every third week for different manager like he would at Tottenham) and was at least a potential captain at Saints, and I am sure he is being offered a good extension at a good rate. But if he and his agents can source a deal that is good for the club then he can go, but in the meantime he should not disresepct the fans and the management that got him to this point. st.ranger
  • Score: -9

10:31am Wed 30 Jul 14

settheSTandard says...

Confucious says..."Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a a pitifully low wage" ........"And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club."

OMG are you for real.
Confucious says..."Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a a pitifully low wage" ........"And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club." OMG are you for real. settheSTandard
  • Score: -7

10:32am Wed 30 Jul 14

thesaint88 says...

Confucious wrote:
Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a pitifully low wage and at great cost to his own career progression, the club treats him like this.

And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club.

Perhaps us fans, who were so privileged to have these players entertain us on a pittance, should head to St Marys with "Let Spiderman go!" and "Free Jay Rodriguez" banners.

I feel so guilty that we are keeping Spiderman a prisoner as I know that I'm greatly indebted to him for working so tirelessly for my benefit. No doubt if this goes on and we do not protest, he will lose all of the massive respect and affection he once had for us fans.
I agree, I have made my mind up and we can't blame any players for wanting out, it's obvious that the employer is a nasty piece of work and everybody hates her and the yes men at her side, koeman has made a terrible mistake coming hear
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a pitifully low wage and at great cost to his own career progression, the club treats him like this. And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club. Perhaps us fans, who were so privileged to have these players entertain us on a pittance, should head to St Marys with "Let Spiderman go!" and "Free Jay Rodriguez" banners. I feel so guilty that we are keeping Spiderman a prisoner as I know that I'm greatly indebted to him for working so tirelessly for my benefit. No doubt if this goes on and we do not protest, he will lose all of the massive respect and affection he once had for us fans.[/p][/quote]I agree, I have made my mind up and we can't blame any players for wanting out, it's obvious that the employer is a nasty piece of work and everybody hates her and the yes men at her side, koeman has made a terrible mistake coming hear thesaint88
  • Score: -6

10:37am Wed 30 Jul 14

neverhasbeen says...

thesaint88 wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a pitifully low wage and at great cost to his own career progression, the club treats him like this.

And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club.

Perhaps us fans, who were so privileged to have these players entertain us on a pittance, should head to St Marys with "Let Spiderman go!" and "Free Jay Rodriguez" banners.

I feel so guilty that we are keeping Spiderman a prisoner as I know that I'm greatly indebted to him for working so tirelessly for my benefit. No doubt if this goes on and we do not protest, he will lose all of the massive respect and affection he once had for us fans.
I agree, I have made my mind up and we can't blame any players for wanting out, it's obvious that the employer is a nasty piece of work and everybody hates her and the yes men at her side, koeman has made a terrible mistake coming hear
Irony.
[quote][p][bold]thesaint88[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a pitifully low wage and at great cost to his own career progression, the club treats him like this. And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club. Perhaps us fans, who were so privileged to have these players entertain us on a pittance, should head to St Marys with "Let Spiderman go!" and "Free Jay Rodriguez" banners. I feel so guilty that we are keeping Spiderman a prisoner as I know that I'm greatly indebted to him for working so tirelessly for my benefit. No doubt if this goes on and we do not protest, he will lose all of the massive respect and affection he once had for us fans.[/p][/quote]I agree, I have made my mind up and we can't blame any players for wanting out, it's obvious that the employer is a nasty piece of work and everybody hates her and the yes men at her side, koeman has made a terrible mistake coming hear[/p][/quote]Irony. neverhasbeen
  • Score: 4

10:38am Wed 30 Jul 14

CB FRY LIVES says...

MAN UP MORGAN.GO AND CROAK A PAIR.
COME ON YOU SAINTS .OFF TO BRIGHTON TOMORROW LETS SHOW THE LONDON BIASED MEDIA WE HAVE PLENTY OF FIGHT LEFT.
MAN UP MORGAN.GO AND CROAK A PAIR. COME ON YOU SAINTS .OFF TO BRIGHTON TOMORROW LETS SHOW THE LONDON BIASED MEDIA WE HAVE PLENTY OF FIGHT LEFT. CB FRY LIVES
  • Score: -8

10:39am Wed 30 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

settheSTandard wrote:
Confucious says..."Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a a pitifully low wage" ........"And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club."

OMG are you for real.
have you ever hear of sarcasm? look it up

very funny confy, one of your top posts!
[quote][p][bold]settheSTandard[/bold] wrote: Confucious says..."Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a a pitifully low wage" ........"And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club." OMG are you for real.[/p][/quote]have you ever hear of sarcasm? look it up very funny confy, one of your top posts! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 5

10:42am Wed 30 Jul 14

Redslo says...

Confucious wrote:
Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a pitifully low wage and at great cost to his own career progression, the club treats him like this.

And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club.

Perhaps us fans, who were so privileged to have these players entertain us on a pittance, should head to St Marys with "Let Spiderman go!" and "Free Jay Rodriguez" banners.

I feel so guilty that we are keeping Spiderman a prisoner as I know that I'm greatly indebted to him for working so tirelessly for my benefit. No doubt if this goes on and we do not protest, he will lose all of the massive respect and affection he once had for us fans.
Brilliant sarcasm.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a pitifully low wage and at great cost to his own career progression, the club treats him like this. And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club. Perhaps us fans, who were so privileged to have these players entertain us on a pittance, should head to St Marys with "Let Spiderman go!" and "Free Jay Rodriguez" banners. I feel so guilty that we are keeping Spiderman a prisoner as I know that I'm greatly indebted to him for working so tirelessly for my benefit. No doubt if this goes on and we do not protest, he will lose all of the massive respect and affection he once had for us fans.[/p][/quote]Brilliant sarcasm. Redslo
  • Score: 8

10:44am Wed 30 Jul 14

White and red till dead says...

settheSTandard wrote:
Confucious says..."Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a a pitifully low wage" ........"And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club."

OMG are you for real.
I think you'll find Confucius was taking the pi55...
[quote][p][bold]settheSTandard[/bold] wrote: Confucious says..."Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a a pitifully low wage" ........"And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club." OMG are you for real.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find Confucius was taking the pi55... White and red till dead
  • Score: 6

10:49am Wed 30 Jul 14

saint christopher says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
settheSTandard wrote:
Confucious says..."Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a a pitifully low wage" ........"And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club."

OMG are you for real.
have you ever hear of sarcasm? look it up

very funny confy, one of your top posts!
Trouble is some posters here wouldn't recognise sarcasm unless it was spelt out in letters 3 foot tall. A good post!
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]settheSTandard[/bold] wrote: Confucious says..."Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a a pitifully low wage" ........"And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club." OMG are you for real.[/p][/quote]have you ever hear of sarcasm? look it up very funny confy, one of your top posts![/p][/quote]Trouble is some posters here wouldn't recognise sarcasm unless it was spelt out in letters 3 foot tall. A good post! saint christopher
  • Score: 6

10:51am Wed 30 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

I personally feel that even though he might have got a bit upset spider is the type of person who will buckle down and do whats needed on the pitch. I don't see him as having anything like dejerks personality. look at all dejerk said on twitter and instagram and his previous attitude a lyon where he put in poor performances through not getting a move. dejerk and liarlanna imo couldn't be trusted to play to their best, luke had a deal to go, maybe liarlanna also had the same deal when he signed his lovely new contract last summer and that's why the toys went flying? dejerk was also told he could go if we got a £20mill offer, oh and don't forget chambers signed a nice new deal last summer, could he have had the same promise as luke? NC the wonderful did these deals so is this part of the reason he was so keen on quitting? did he think that if he stayed in sole charge he could convince the players to stay, but wouldn't be able to do so if he had a board to report to? omething seems to have made these players all think they could go this summer, some thinking it from near the start of last season! did the players do enough to have a good league position but not enough to qualify for Europe?
I personally feel that even though he might have got a bit upset spider is the type of person who will buckle down and do whats needed on the pitch. I don't see him as having anything like dejerks personality. look at all dejerk said on twitter and instagram and his previous attitude a lyon where he put in poor performances through not getting a move. dejerk and liarlanna imo couldn't be trusted to play to their best, luke had a deal to go, maybe liarlanna also had the same deal when he signed his lovely new contract last summer and that's why the toys went flying? dejerk was also told he could go if we got a £20mill offer, oh and don't forget chambers signed a nice new deal last summer, could he have had the same promise as luke? NC the wonderful did these deals so is this part of the reason he was so keen on quitting? did he think that if he stayed in sole charge he could convince the players to stay, but wouldn't be able to do so if he had a board to report to? omething seems to have made these players all think they could go this summer, some thinking it from near the start of last season! did the players do enough to have a good league position but not enough to qualify for Europe? de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: -4

10:52am Wed 30 Jul 14

elvis says...

jls217 wrote:
Am I wrong in feeling let down by this man. Of all the players we have I would have put my pension on him being the one to do the right thing. Maybe even stayed loyal, which seems to be a dirty word in the modern world.
We were thinking in terms of he might be our next captain for goodness sake.
He is THE player around which the club should be moulded.
We have to hold onto him to placate the fans and because Freddie has insisted so. Maybe the January sales will be the time to unload him. Face saved and a lesson driven home to him.
He may still come to his senses and realize he can be the part of something really promising here again and man up, once he's finished spitting is dummy out.
Couldn't agree more ....he's been probably the best player of the last few years & up till last night he's behaved with class & dignity .... I never believed he'd behave like this .... let's hope it's nothing more than him venting his frustrations and this morning he wakes to regret his actions ..... as for Spuds they truly are the most despicable shower going the board should not allow a single player to join Judas there ....whenever we get our selves in a decent position they seem to come along & pull the rug from under us .... & take such pleasure in .....here's hoping Judas falls flat on his face & they end up getting relegated x
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Am I wrong in feeling let down by this man. Of all the players we have I would have put my pension on him being the one to do the right thing. Maybe even stayed loyal, which seems to be a dirty word in the modern world. We were thinking in terms of he might be our next captain for goodness sake. He is THE player around which the club should be moulded. We have to hold onto him to placate the fans and because Freddie has insisted so. Maybe the January sales will be the time to unload him. Face saved and a lesson driven home to him. He may still come to his senses and realize he can be the part of something really promising here again and man up, once he's finished spitting is dummy out.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more ....he's been probably the best player of the last few years & up till last night he's behaved with class & dignity .... I never believed he'd behave like this .... let's hope it's nothing more than him venting his frustrations and this morning he wakes to regret his actions ..... as for Spuds they truly are the most despicable shower going the board should not allow a single player to join Judas there ....whenever we get our selves in a decent position they seem to come along & pull the rug from under us .... & take such pleasure in .....here's hoping Judas falls flat on his face & they end up getting relegated x elvis
  • Score: -3

10:56am Wed 30 Jul 14

Norwegian Saint says...

You have the top 4 or 5 clubs (looking at the last 10 years) ManU, ManC, Liv, Ars and Che, the rest are fighting for a place in Europe and pride at beating these larger clubs.
Why should we sell to a club that is no better than us when we don't need to? Our next five year plan will be get into the CL and become one of the "big clubs"
I think if one of the bigger clubs came in and matched our valuation (nothing less and no add ons) then he could leave.
I would love it... LOVE IT if we finished above those pesky MoPoo Spuds
You have the top 4 or 5 clubs (looking at the last 10 years) ManU, ManC, Liv, Ars and Che, the rest are fighting for a place in Europe and pride at beating these larger clubs. Why should we sell to a club that is no better than us when we don't need to? Our next five year plan will be get into the CL and become one of the "big clubs" I think if one of the bigger clubs came in and matched our valuation (nothing less and no add ons) then he could leave. I would love it... LOVE IT if we finished above those pesky MoPoo Spuds Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 0

10:58am Wed 30 Jul 14

redsnapper says...

Morgan is an excellent player and has committed everything to SFC and has een hugely influential in our success.

I do not blame him one bit for the frustration expressed, he has ambition and after what has been going on in the last 8 wks at SO14 who can blame him for wanting to move.

And talking to Les Reed probably did nothing to encourage him to stay--so over to Ronko in the hope he can turn this situation around.

At least stick around till January
Morgan is an excellent player and has committed everything to SFC and has een hugely influential in our success. I do not blame him one bit for the frustration expressed, he has ambition and after what has been going on in the last 8 wks at SO14 who can blame him for wanting to move. And talking to Les Reed probably did nothing to encourage him to stay--so over to Ronko in the hope he can turn this situation around. At least stick around till January redsnapper
  • Score: -12

10:58am Wed 30 Jul 14

Saint Clements says...

Here's the problem.
And, sadly, it's a problem of the Board's own making.
Once they let the third, fourth, fifth player leave, there was a swell of momentum.
Of course other players are then going to feel they can employ the same tactics (tactics which seem to be as simple as saying 'I don't want to be here').
Ralph etc, if you're reading this, know this: the first player you say no to was always going to react in this manner.
But with every subsequent conversation with other players and their agents, their reaction will get less extreme because the precedent will have been set: namely no one else leave. Full stop.
So stand firm now, or see Clyne do the same.
And JWP.
And Cork.
And Victor.
In short, you ballsed up letting the third player onwards leave - from that point onwards momentum was with the exodus.
You now need to stand firm on Morgan - otherwise your personal reign will be short-lived.
It's that serious now.
Here's the problem. And, sadly, it's a problem of the Board's own making. Once they let the third, fourth, fifth player leave, there was a swell of momentum. Of course other players are then going to feel they can employ the same tactics (tactics which seem to be as simple as saying 'I don't want to be here'). Ralph etc, if you're reading this, know this: the first player you say no to was always going to react in this manner. But with every subsequent conversation with other players and their agents, their reaction will get less extreme because the precedent will have been set: namely no one else leave. Full stop. So stand firm now, or see Clyne do the same. And JWP. And Cork. And Victor. In short, you ballsed up letting the third player onwards leave - from that point onwards momentum was with the exodus. You now need to stand firm on Morgan - otherwise your personal reign will be short-lived. It's that serious now. Saint Clements
  • Score: 0

11:00am Wed 30 Jul 14

Shareholder says...

You have to feel for Kreuger in all of this, damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Cortese adopted a wall of silence approach on everything which most fans found frustrating. The new Board have gone in totally the opposite direction which had just about brought nothing but derision. Some of that is their own fault, they've been naive at times. They need to strike a balance somewhere in between in my view. But they should definitely impose an iron fist policy on player's going public about club affairs and start with Schneiderlin and impose a heavy fine. It's time these arrogant, bubble dwelling egotists were brought back down to size and start inhabiting the same planet the rest of us live on.

I said here some weeks ago that the one player it will be most difficult to replace is Schneiderlin. He makes the team work. So I'm glad the Board have put their foot down with him. And I suspect that with the others sold off Saints have calculated that you can cope with one disgruntled player rather than having a whole dressing room full of them. Rodriguez is another matter. He's injured so he won't be playing much before the next transfer window opens anyway so I guess he's less concerned about a move now. If we do well again all this will change anyway and players will be more likely to stay.

Meanwhile I'm looking forward to seeing who comes in next. I don't imagine they'll be sub standard given Koeman's background. I personally think its exciting.

I'll now await the insults to come in accusing me of being delusional and a happy clapper. I don't care frankly. All I want is for the club to succeed.
You have to feel for Kreuger in all of this, damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Cortese adopted a wall of silence approach on everything which most fans found frustrating. The new Board have gone in totally the opposite direction which had just about brought nothing but derision. Some of that is their own fault, they've been naive at times. They need to strike a balance somewhere in between in my view. But they should definitely impose an iron fist policy on player's going public about club affairs and start with Schneiderlin and impose a heavy fine. It's time these arrogant, bubble dwelling egotists were brought back down to size and start inhabiting the same planet the rest of us live on. I said here some weeks ago that the one player it will be most difficult to replace is Schneiderlin. He makes the team work. So I'm glad the Board have put their foot down with him. And I suspect that with the others sold off Saints have calculated that you can cope with one disgruntled player rather than having a whole dressing room full of them. Rodriguez is another matter. He's injured so he won't be playing much before the next transfer window opens anyway so I guess he's less concerned about a move now. If we do well again all this will change anyway and players will be more likely to stay. Meanwhile I'm looking forward to seeing who comes in next. I don't imagine they'll be sub standard given Koeman's background. I personally think its exciting. I'll now await the insults to come in accusing me of being delusional and a happy clapper. I don't care frankly. All I want is for the club to succeed. Shareholder
  • Score: 7

11:01am Wed 30 Jul 14

Jimmy Squall says...

Another spoilt young man throwing his toys out the pram.... "6 years destroyed in an hour"???? You what? With these kind of immature and thoroughly unprofessional histrionics I need some reminding why we sing these guys' names week in week out. Jeez. 'Spose I should be thankful we never bought Suarez
Another spoilt young man throwing his toys out the pram.... "6 years destroyed in an hour"???? You what? With these kind of immature and thoroughly unprofessional histrionics I need some reminding why we sing these guys' names week in week out. Jeez. 'Spose I should be thankful we never bought Suarez Jimmy Squall
  • Score: 1

11:01am Wed 30 Jul 14

Graham, North of Watford says...

jls217 wrote:
Am I wrong in feeling let down by this man. Of all the players we have I would have put my pension on him being the one to do the right thing. Maybe even stayed loyal, which seems to be a dirty word in the modern world.
We were thinking in terms of he might be our next captain for goodness sake.
He is THE player around which the club should be moulded.
We have to hold onto him to placate the fans and because Freddie has insisted so. Maybe the January sales will be the time to unload him. Face saved and a lesson driven home to him.
He may still come to his senses and realize he can be the part of something really promising here again and man up, once he's finished spitting is dummy out.
I would have put my pension on him as well.

One of the posts on this topic suggests he gets £25k per week - not sure if that is simply received wisdom or something akin to the truth.

Dare I say that £25k is not a huge amount by today's footballing standards and dare I say, even more, nothing like the right amount to demand loyalty.

So what is the right amount for the Saints to pay - firstly to keep within the financial sanity territory and secondly to keep the players interested.

Were the Chelsea comments that they were not prepared to offer Luke Shaw £100k per week which is why he went to MU really true?

Does anyone have a good perspective on where we stand in the payroll stakes?
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Am I wrong in feeling let down by this man. Of all the players we have I would have put my pension on him being the one to do the right thing. Maybe even stayed loyal, which seems to be a dirty word in the modern world. We were thinking in terms of he might be our next captain for goodness sake. He is THE player around which the club should be moulded. We have to hold onto him to placate the fans and because Freddie has insisted so. Maybe the January sales will be the time to unload him. Face saved and a lesson driven home to him. He may still come to his senses and realize he can be the part of something really promising here again and man up, once he's finished spitting is dummy out.[/p][/quote]I would have put my pension on him as well. One of the posts on this topic suggests he gets £25k per week - not sure if that is simply received wisdom or something akin to the truth. Dare I say that £25k is not a huge amount by today's footballing standards and dare I say, even more, nothing like the right amount to demand loyalty. So what is the right amount for the Saints to pay - firstly to keep within the financial sanity territory and secondly to keep the players interested. Were the Chelsea comments that they were not prepared to offer Luke Shaw £100k per week which is why he went to MU really true? Does anyone have a good perspective on where we stand in the payroll stakes? Graham, North of Watford
  • Score: 0

11:03am Wed 30 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

Hey guys, I think we all need to be very careful what we say about this one however much we might wish to vent our feelings. It is a highly inflamed and delicate situation. A stand-off between the club and the player in public is highly undesirable. Let Morgan and the board try to resolve this situation in private – it is the only way both sides can save face. I think the transfer would only go ahead if we got the £27m from Spurs or Arsenal and I very much doubt that either club would go up to even £20m (although you never know in today’s crazy football world!). So, it would seem that the only “realistic” solution (there are others but they do not bare thinking about) would be for Morgan to climb down and accept that he will be staying with us, at least until January and possibly a lot longer. RonK (I’ll stop saying RK as we have two high profile RKs in the news these days!) has a strong reputation for getting the best out of players and he’ll need all his skills to bring Morgan around. I accept that this may not be possible but there is a chance that there can be a relatively amicable way forward. We can all help by keeping quiet on this one and let it run its course. Viscous comments about Morgan’s behaviour will only lead to yet more undesirable media coverage (it will continue anyway for a while). Given everything that has happened, Morgan’s outburst is perhaps understandable even though it was totally out of order and offended most of us. So, for now, let’s forgive him and make it easier for him to be integrated back into our “new” team. We can all pass judgement if or when it all goes wrong.
Hey guys, I think we all need to be very careful what we say about this one however much we might wish to vent our feelings. It is a highly inflamed and delicate situation. A stand-off between the club and the player in public is highly undesirable. Let Morgan and the board try to resolve this situation in private – it is the only way both sides can save face. I think the transfer would only go ahead if we got the £27m from Spurs or Arsenal and I very much doubt that either club would go up to even £20m (although you never know in today’s crazy football world!). So, it would seem that the only “realistic” solution (there are others but they do not bare thinking about) would be for Morgan to climb down and accept that he will be staying with us, at least until January and possibly a lot longer. RonK (I’ll stop saying RK as we have two high profile RKs in the news these days!) has a strong reputation for getting the best out of players and he’ll need all his skills to bring Morgan around. I accept that this may not be possible but there is a chance that there can be a relatively amicable way forward. We can all help by keeping quiet on this one and let it run its course. Viscous comments about Morgan’s behaviour will only lead to yet more undesirable media coverage (it will continue anyway for a while). Given everything that has happened, Morgan’s outburst is perhaps understandable even though it was totally out of order and offended most of us. So, for now, let’s forgive him and make it easier for him to be integrated back into our “new” team. We can all pass judgement if or when it all goes wrong. nomorerumours
  • Score: 8

11:04am Wed 30 Jul 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Will RK start him against Brighton?
Will RK start him against Brighton? Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 0

11:11am Wed 30 Jul 14

Norwegian Saint says...

FICKING HECK!!!

The press have now found that little Hitler Rupert Lowe and interviewed him about Saints!!! WTF does he know?! It was him that put us on the brink of disaster!!

If I was anywhere near that smug "fitta" (norsk word) I would knock him the fick out!!! FUMING WITH TALK SPORT!
FICKING HECK!!! The press have now found that little Hitler Rupert Lowe and interviewed him about Saints!!! WTF does he know?! It was him that put us on the brink of disaster!! If I was anywhere near that smug "fitta" (norsk word) I would knock him the fick out!!! FUMING WITH TALK SPORT! Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 5

11:15am Wed 30 Jul 14

notaclue says...

At some point people will have to stop blaming players, clearly there is more to it than that.
Don't think there is one first team player who is prepared to extend their contract, its just isn't normal for every player to be upset.

Personally I think Les Reed's relationship and communication with the players lies at the root of our problems, the only way this will be resolved is when Koeman gets more established and trusted at our club and fills in this gap between palyers and management.
At some point people will have to stop blaming players, clearly there is more to it than that. Don't think there is one first team player who is prepared to extend their contract, its just isn't normal for every player to be upset. Personally I think Les Reed's relationship and communication with the players lies at the root of our problems, the only way this will be resolved is when Koeman gets more established and trusted at our club and fills in this gap between palyers and management. notaclue
  • Score: 0

11:18am Wed 30 Jul 14

Les Miserables says...

Lets not slag the guy off just yet. Yes he made a spur of the moment and very ill advised comment on twitter but at the end of the day he is a young guy and young guys tend to be impetuous at times.

Hopefully RonKo can convince him that he is wanted as the rock around which the team will be built, for me he would be the ideal captain. Someone should point out to him that it is his consistent performances as a first team REGULAR that got him his place in the French team for the World Cup and that playing for a "big team" is no guarantee of International selection -Just ask Samir Nasri !

I hope that by the time the dust has settled and we actually get down to business (the Premier league) this little spat is well behind us and we have Morgan back giving his all as usual for the team.
Lets not slag the guy off just yet. Yes he made a spur of the moment and very ill advised comment on twitter but at the end of the day he is a young guy and young guys tend to be impetuous at times. Hopefully RonKo can convince him that he is wanted as the rock around which the team will be built, for me he would be the ideal captain. Someone should point out to him that it is his consistent performances as a first team REGULAR that got him his place in the French team for the World Cup and that playing for a "big team" is no guarantee of International selection -Just ask Samir Nasri ! I hope that by the time the dust has settled and we actually get down to business (the Premier league) this little spat is well behind us and we have Morgan back giving his all as usual for the team. Les Miserables
  • Score: 3

11:28am Wed 30 Jul 14

notaclue says...

Graham, North of Watford wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Am I wrong in feeling let down by this man. Of all the players we have I would have put my pension on him being the one to do the right thing. Maybe even stayed loyal, which seems to be a dirty word in the modern world.
We were thinking in terms of he might be our next captain for goodness sake.
He is THE player around which the club should be moulded.
We have to hold onto him to placate the fans and because Freddie has insisted so. Maybe the January sales will be the time to unload him. Face saved and a lesson driven home to him.
He may still come to his senses and realize he can be the part of something really promising here again and man up, once he's finished spitting is dummy out.
I would have put my pension on him as well.

One of the posts on this topic suggests he gets £25k per week - not sure if that is simply received wisdom or something akin to the truth.

Dare I say that £25k is not a huge amount by today's footballing standards and dare I say, even more, nothing like the right amount to demand loyalty.

So what is the right amount for the Saints to pay - firstly to keep within the financial sanity territory and secondly to keep the players interested.

Were the Chelsea comments that they were not prepared to offer Luke Shaw £100k per week which is why he went to MU really true?

Does anyone have a good perspective on where we stand in the payroll stakes?
Our highest paid player is/was Osvaldo on around £65k a week I was told.
Ashley Cole just dropped his wages by £160k a week to join Roma but should still pick up £80k a week after bonuses.
[quote][p][bold]Graham, North of Watford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Am I wrong in feeling let down by this man. Of all the players we have I would have put my pension on him being the one to do the right thing. Maybe even stayed loyal, which seems to be a dirty word in the modern world. We were thinking in terms of he might be our next captain for goodness sake. He is THE player around which the club should be moulded. We have to hold onto him to placate the fans and because Freddie has insisted so. Maybe the January sales will be the time to unload him. Face saved and a lesson driven home to him. He may still come to his senses and realize he can be the part of something really promising here again and man up, once he's finished spitting is dummy out.[/p][/quote]I would have put my pension on him as well. One of the posts on this topic suggests he gets £25k per week - not sure if that is simply received wisdom or something akin to the truth. Dare I say that £25k is not a huge amount by today's footballing standards and dare I say, even more, nothing like the right amount to demand loyalty. So what is the right amount for the Saints to pay - firstly to keep within the financial sanity territory and secondly to keep the players interested. Were the Chelsea comments that they were not prepared to offer Luke Shaw £100k per week which is why he went to MU really true? Does anyone have a good perspective on where we stand in the payroll stakes?[/p][/quote]Our highest paid player is/was Osvaldo on around £65k a week I was told. Ashley Cole just dropped his wages by £160k a week to join Roma but should still pick up £80k a week after bonuses. notaclue
  • Score: 1

11:29am Wed 30 Jul 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

The curious thing is that, despite such an unequivocal statement from Ralph, Skybet's odds are unchanged from yesterday afternoon:
http://www.oddscheck
er.com/football/foot
ball-specials/morgan
-schneiderlin/club-a
fter-summer-transfer
-window

Maybe this is just tempting punters to place losing bets, but I'd really like to know what odds they offer on Spider staying here.
The curious thing is that, despite such an unequivocal statement from Ralph, Skybet's odds are unchanged from yesterday afternoon: http://www.oddscheck er.com/football/foot ball-specials/morgan -schneiderlin/club-a fter-summer-transfer -window Maybe this is just tempting punters to place losing bets, but I'd really like to know what odds they offer on Spider staying here. Crossley Place Saint
  • Score: 1

11:36am Wed 30 Jul 14

On The Bus says...

Confucious wrote:
Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a pitifully low wage and at great cost to his own career progression, the club treats him like this.

And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club.

Perhaps us fans, who were so privileged to have these players entertain us on a pittance, should head to St Marys with "Let Spiderman go!" and "Free Jay Rodriguez" banners.

I feel so guilty that we are keeping Spiderman a prisoner as I know that I'm greatly indebted to him for working so tirelessly for my benefit. No doubt if this goes on and we do not protest, he will lose all of the massive respect and affection he once had for us fans.
Confucious, Your humour is lost on some of these guy's. Can't believe the number of thumbs down. I know it's not easy at the moment but lighten up guy's.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a pitifully low wage and at great cost to his own career progression, the club treats him like this. And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club. Perhaps us fans, who were so privileged to have these players entertain us on a pittance, should head to St Marys with "Let Spiderman go!" and "Free Jay Rodriguez" banners. I feel so guilty that we are keeping Spiderman a prisoner as I know that I'm greatly indebted to him for working so tirelessly for my benefit. No doubt if this goes on and we do not protest, he will lose all of the massive respect and affection he once had for us fans.[/p][/quote]Confucious, Your humour is lost on some of these guy's. Can't believe the number of thumbs down. I know it's not easy at the moment but lighten up guy's. On The Bus
  • Score: 2

11:43am Wed 30 Jul 14

conchy_joe says...

Baby Morgan must be really upset, I just found his dummy and one of his rattles...I live in Birmingham and that's a long way to spit a dummy.
Still he's got until 2017 (when his present expires) to stop crying and be a big boy.
Ps...does anyone have the address of his Kindergarten so that I can return his baby toys.
Baby Morgan must be really upset, I just found his dummy and one of his rattles...I live in Birmingham and that's a long way to spit a dummy. Still he's got until 2017 (when his present expires) to stop crying and be a big boy. Ps...does anyone have the address of his Kindergarten so that I can return his baby toys. conchy_joe
  • Score: 1

11:49am Wed 30 Jul 14

justaSaintsfan says...

Morgan Schneiderlin wrote on Twitter: "6 years of an amazing journey #saintsfc DESTROYED in 1 hour!!!"

It is interesting that Morgan used the words, "DESTROYED in 1 hour." He did not allege either the source of the destruction or during which hour the destruction happened. We still have a squad, plus the reassurance that more new signings are intended by SFC, yet Morgan is not satisfied. If he genuinely believes that he has had 6 years of an amazing journey with Saints, why does he not want to extend the journey? Why does he not want to take the opportunity to work with Ronald Koeman, a trophy winning manager at three of his former clubs in Europe? Morgan should man up and do what he is still being very well paid to do for the length of his contract. He should play to the best of his ability for Saints and keep his extremely unwise words to himself.

I believe that the amazing journey can continue, with Ronald Koeman's guidance, depending on an influx of new, quality signings. Graziano Pelle and Dusan Tadic are a good start.

I can well imagine that Ronald Koeman has already told Morgan to stop tweeting angry words.

The new season will soon start. I shall continue loudly supporting Saints, including Morgan, if he plays. No good could come of giving him a hard time during matches. It is better to support the shirt, not the tweeter who wears it!!!
Morgan Schneiderlin wrote on Twitter: "6 years of an amazing journey #saintsfc DESTROYED in 1 hour!!!" It is interesting that Morgan used the words, "DESTROYED in 1 hour." He did not allege either the source of the destruction or during which hour the destruction happened. We still have a squad, plus the reassurance that more new signings are intended by SFC, yet Morgan is not satisfied. If he genuinely believes that he has had 6 years of an amazing journey with Saints, why does he not want to extend the journey? Why does he not want to take the opportunity to work with Ronald Koeman, a trophy winning manager at three of his former clubs in Europe? Morgan should man up and do what he is still being very well paid to do for the length of his contract. He should play to the best of his ability for Saints and keep his extremely unwise words to himself. I believe that the amazing journey can continue, with Ronald Koeman's guidance, depending on an influx of new, quality signings. Graziano Pelle and Dusan Tadic are a good start. I can well imagine that Ronald Koeman has already told Morgan to stop tweeting angry words. The new season will soon start. I shall continue loudly supporting Saints, including Morgan, if he plays. No good could come of giving him a hard time during matches. It is better to support the shirt, not the tweeter who wears it!!! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 2

11:54am Wed 30 Jul 14

damoose says...

who was fighting in training anybody know the players involved?
who was fighting in training anybody know the players involved? damoose
  • Score: 2

11:58am Wed 30 Jul 14

damoose says...

notaclue says...

At some point people will have to stop blaming players, clearly there is more to it than that.
Don't think there is one first team player who is prepared to extend their contract, its just isn't normal for every player to be upset.

Personally I think Les Reed's relationship and communication with the players lies at the root of our problems, the only way this will be resolved is when Koeman gets more established and trusted at our club and fills in this gap between palyers and management.
----------
Was working near Charlton when he single-handedly destroyed their club...in the end he tried to become the manager lol and lasted all but 27 days in charge
notaclue says... At some point people will have to stop blaming players, clearly there is more to it than that. Don't think there is one first team player who is prepared to extend their contract, its just isn't normal for every player to be upset. Personally I think Les Reed's relationship and communication with the players lies at the root of our problems, the only way this will be resolved is when Koeman gets more established and trusted at our club and fills in this gap between palyers and management. ---------- Was working near Charlton when he single-handedly destroyed their club...in the end he tried to become the manager lol and lasted all but 27 days in charge damoose
  • Score: -1

12:21pm Wed 30 Jul 14

St Van Roetford says...

I have it on good authority that Morgan's tweet was actually a reference to the quality of biscuit offered in the meeting rooms of St Marys. See, under Cortese players were always guaranteed a mint Viscount and that's what made them so fond of him and why they always beat a path to his door.

But Ralph is more of an orange Club man which, as anyone with tastebuds will tell you, is an absolute minger of a biscuit. Imagine being stuck in an hour-long meeting with nothing but those? Nightmare.

Anyway, Morgan's vented his frustration and he's over it. As for the move to Spurs, well, he didn't want to go in the first place.
I have it on good authority that Morgan's tweet was actually a reference to the quality of biscuit offered in the meeting rooms of St Marys. See, under Cortese players were always guaranteed a mint Viscount and that's what made them so fond of him and why they always beat a path to his door. But Ralph is more of an orange Club man which, as anyone with tastebuds will tell you, is an absolute minger of a biscuit. Imagine being stuck in an hour-long meeting with nothing but those? Nightmare. Anyway, Morgan's vented his frustration and he's over it. As for the move to Spurs, well, he didn't want to go in the first place. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 1

12:28pm Wed 30 Jul 14

settheSTandard says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
settheSTandard wrote:
Confucious says..."Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a a pitifully low wage" ........"And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club."

OMG are you for real.
have you ever hear of sarcasm? look it up

very funny confy, one of your top posts!
Don't I feel a right idiot right now , sorry Confusious.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]settheSTandard[/bold] wrote: Confucious says..."Huh - after all Spiderman has done for Southampton, no doubt on a a pitifully low wage" ........"And yet Rickie, Lallana, Lovren, Shaw and Chambers were all allowed to escape the Saints poorhouse after they had also so generously and selflessly sacrificed the opportunity to realise earlier international and Champion League appearances to stay with our also-ran club." OMG are you for real.[/p][/quote]have you ever hear of sarcasm? look it up very funny confy, one of your top posts![/p][/quote]Don't I feel a right idiot right now , sorry Confusious. settheSTandard
  • Score: 2

12:30pm Wed 30 Jul 14

batesieboy says...

The players and manager finished 8th. But they think they are top 4. Of course it's the money, and ONLY the money. How naive to think it is anything else!
The players and manager finished 8th. But they think they are top 4. Of course it's the money, and ONLY the money. How naive to think it is anything else! batesieboy
  • Score: 3

12:31pm Wed 30 Jul 14

notaclue says...

damoose wrote:
notaclue says...

At some point people will have to stop blaming players, clearly there is more to it than that.
Don't think there is one first team player who is prepared to extend their contract, its just isn't normal for every player to be upset.

Personally I think Les Reed's relationship and communication with the players lies at the root of our problems, the only way this will be resolved is when Koeman gets more established and trusted at our club and fills in this gap between palyers and management.
----------
Was working near Charlton when he single-handedly destroyed their club...in the end he tried to become the manager lol and lasted all but 27 days in charge
In his autobiography, Steven Gerrard said that he had "no respect" for Les Reed after the way he treated him during England's Euro 2000 campaign.

Reed's spell at Charlton became infamous, as the media attacked him frequently, nicknaming him "Les Misérables" and "Santa Clueless", and he was later voted in an unofficial online poll "the worst manager of all time"
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: notaclue says... At some point people will have to stop blaming players, clearly there is more to it than that. Don't think there is one first team player who is prepared to extend their contract, its just isn't normal for every player to be upset. Personally I think Les Reed's relationship and communication with the players lies at the root of our problems, the only way this will be resolved is when Koeman gets more established and trusted at our club and fills in this gap between palyers and management. ---------- Was working near Charlton when he single-handedly destroyed their club...in the end he tried to become the manager lol and lasted all but 27 days in charge[/p][/quote]In his autobiography, Steven Gerrard said that he had "no respect" for Les Reed after the way he treated him during England's Euro 2000 campaign. Reed's spell at Charlton became infamous, as the media attacked him frequently, nicknaming him "Les Misérables" and "Santa Clueless", and he was later voted in an unofficial online poll "the worst manager of all time" notaclue
  • Score: -1

12:35pm Wed 30 Jul 14

bullsbags says...

He's handed in a transfer request
Tell Levy to write a cheque fo 30 mill and I'll drive him up there
Actually sod it I'll push the ejector button somewhere near the m25
He's handed in a transfer request Tell Levy to write a cheque fo 30 mill and I'll drive him up there Actually sod it I'll push the ejector button somewhere near the m25 bullsbags
  • Score: 1

12:39pm Wed 30 Jul 14

florida saint says...

I would rather start again without all these w@nkers. u t s
I would rather start again without all these w@nkers. u t s florida saint
  • Score: 0

12:44pm Wed 30 Jul 14

jls217 says...

florida saint wrote:
I would rather start again without all these w@nkers. u t s
Might get your wish Florida. He is reputed to have been in the middle of a 3 way handbags session at the training ground this morning. The misery just never ends does it?
[quote][p][bold]florida saint[/bold] wrote: I would rather start again without all these w@nkers. u t s[/p][/quote]Might get your wish Florida. He is reputed to have been in the middle of a 3 way handbags session at the training ground this morning. The misery just never ends does it? jls217
  • Score: 2

12:46pm Wed 30 Jul 14

damoose says...

I think the answers to wtf is going on are in this article


http://www.footyplac
e.com/features/ffp-t
o-blame-for-southamp
ton-exodus-073029811
0?
I think the answers to wtf is going on are in this article http://www.footyplac e.com/features/ffp-t o-blame-for-southamp ton-exodus-073029811 0? damoose
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1:26pm Wed 30 Jul 14

notaclue says...

damoose wrote:
I think the answers to wtf is going on are in this article


http://www.footyplac

e.com/features/ffp-t

o-blame-for-southamp

ton-exodus-073029811

0?
Except Saints said the FFP had nothing to do with our player sales yesterday.
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: I think the answers to wtf is going on are in this article http://www.footyplac e.com/features/ffp-t o-blame-for-southamp ton-exodus-073029811 0?[/p][/quote]Except Saints said the FFP had nothing to do with our player sales yesterday. notaclue
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1:27pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Ozmosis says...

damoose wrote:
I think the answers to wtf is going on are in this article


http://www.footyplac

e.com/features/ffp-t

o-blame-for-southamp

ton-exodus-073029811

0?
Brilliant article, and so very true
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: I think the answers to wtf is going on are in this article http://www.footyplac e.com/features/ffp-t o-blame-for-southamp ton-exodus-073029811 0?[/p][/quote]Brilliant article, and so very true Ozmosis
  • Score: 1

4:22pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Redslo says...

notaclue wrote:
damoose wrote:
I think the answers to wtf is going on are in this article


http://www.footyplac


e.com/features/ffp-t


o-blame-for-southamp


ton-exodus-073029811


0?
Except Saints said the FFP had nothing to do with our player sales yesterday.
Also you can increase wages by the net positive amount of your transfer income. FFP may be a factor but it doesn't explain everything.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: I think the answers to wtf is going on are in this article http://www.footyplac e.com/features/ffp-t o-blame-for-southamp ton-exodus-073029811 0?[/p][/quote]Except Saints said the FFP had nothing to do with our player sales yesterday.[/p][/quote]Also you can increase wages by the net positive amount of your transfer income. FFP may be a factor but it doesn't explain everything. Redslo
  • Score: 0

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